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Storyteller Conclave  Episode 22 World-building pt. 5 : Geography

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Storyteller Conclave Episode 22 World-building pt. 5 : Geography

"You're listening to the podcast visit. WWW DOT past introit dot com before information Hello Friends Welcome to episode twenty two of Storyteller Retailer Conclave the show all about helping you run the best tabletop role playing game you can whether you're a new storyteller dungeon master learning the craft or inexperienced tiller look into Tika Chica game to the next level. I am Sarah. I'm rob. I think it's been a rough week. It's been like a rough sense. You know I'm GonNa say since last Wednesday yeah since one week ago it's been rough. It's been weird. Shit happened like people got injured and the toilet incident. The plumbing of the people were sick. I mean it was just none of us shit. I wanted so well. Let's look on the bright side. We've got kate's feeling better this week. Do we do so apparently the NYQUIL shots worked mark. Yes yes it did. We'll call those NYQUIL. We're not sure what they were but they were Jinnai. GIAMBI MAKES NYQUIL blue pair. That's fair. We're here in studio recording according to their upset of our puck episode twenty two at the Place de last week we did did we did sadly. We didn't get to play mouthguard because my brain exploded you know John it's fine. It's fine. We'd also like to welcome knocks. We hear you we hear you. We see you in live coach. Show chat so welcome to life. Show chat because you can do that. That's what you get put patriarch the patriarch all right so we have a whole topic to go over we finally shifted out of the oddities. Yup and moved into geography geography which honestly is okay yeah. Here's the thing is it's an it's an interesting topic but I think a lot of the discussion tonight is going to Hugh Center around what you don't need to do. Yeah not what you do need to do. I think you put it really good at dinner. 'cause I will flat out say audience. I did not prepare the show. I was like Choksi. I've got all this stuff going on to choose us like don't worry about it. I got I got this and I read it on like this great stuff but the one thing the sixth my head has this is like not that important and then I thought about what you said at dinner and I was like you're right whenever I you know whenever you think about dnd or you think about a game mm-hmm you know where you've got many's people marching all over the place you think of maps and he think of how cool it is to have maps and stuff and there's these epoch terrain building building programs where you can make awesome looking maps in like campaign cartographer kind of stuff and then in the end when you get to doing it. You're like where do I put crap yeah and and I think would it comes right down to his. It doesn't really matter that's cool stuff for later but I think initially it really doesn't matter all that much I mean in the case of some game systems like urban shadows you build the world together yeah you literally make a map together to know where certain certain haunt. SAR But the locations are seen based. You're not traveling from location to location exactly and in the dungeon world even says in its in its manual there leave there. It's like it's so it's a rule. It's leave blank spots on the map because you'll decide what happens as the story goes and you've got some nice big blank spot and okay well. What's there What a what do we need to be there and Ice Castle something of the Ice Queen sure okay that's. What's there now great awesome built out from where you start so let's let's let's hit through this then hit some questions because like I'm kind of in the mood answer incident yeah all right so when you're talking about geography the okay so like I said earlier the a lot of this discussion is going to be about what you don't need to do Korea. It's mostly. It's about limiting yourself because when we're talking physical title geography of World Building okay that's literally everything and when you're getting going with your world buildings such that and you start thinking about your geography it can get very overwhelming very quick to think Oh God. I have to map all of this stuff. I need to know what every nook and cranny of this world and other worlds even looks like and you see all these great elaborate maps especially. If you watch critical role. They've got these really professionally done maps and whatnot and stuff with that because they have aren't. It's you crack open your all your guide to the Sword Coast beautiful map favorite which is author and also roads and Forests and little settlements and oh look. There's never winter and Oh look there's Baldur's gate and Oh look there's there's a water deep and it can be very overwhelming very intimidating and then on the other side of that. You've got like the one I think one linked. I threw up which was It's a guy who literally does by Astro metrics like he's like. Oh you want to sons okay well. Let's let's let's do some math to figure out what the story of your world is any literally maths out how that's possible and then from that could figure out what the mass of the world was and then based on the mass that told us how much water and how much heavy metals and what kind of resources okay so now we know the resources we can say obviously advanced civilizations could come out of this because there's lots of resources on this and it was like well. That's a lot to think about that. You just came up for the fact of two sons and a temperate world yeah that's great great. I don't have an astro physics degree though so I'm not going to be doing that right right up. That's really cool because he literally showed the math behind tattooing MHM and I thought that was really cool at the same time. I'm like I already have a world. I don't need to like make the astro physics work yeah. I think that's great and nobody get my tables going to call me on that. They're not going to be like Oh. Excuse me I'm sorry but my astrophysics degrees says this world can't have this level of resources to it. It's just not going to happen. I need to go oh. Oh yeah exactly I bought by all right so let's let's go to the most important thing then is figuring out what the scope of your world as okay how much you actually need and limit yourself because like I said if you stare into the void you will you can you can fill that void all day but it's. It's just really not necessary so think of things that are important to where your setting is like. If you're building in a city obviously you wanted to find that city. You may not even necessarily need to map the city but you Kinda WanNa know what the city's about does it. Have you know a shipping district. Does it have a guild district. Does it have a rich people district or some sort of like a poor people district to it. You know things like that. Where does it kind of sit on your map. Is it a port city city. Is it an inland city. Things like that or even look at like your player base if they've got backgrounds like literally if if they're not even very good not good let me rephrase that even if they're not experienced role players who come up and give you a nine page essay of the background with their character you know they say through their selected backgrounds you know based on the game. It might give you a little bit history and then you can say oh so you grew up as a blacksmith yeah okay well. Can you give me an idea of what the area of your town looked like and you can incorporate that into the map. I mean urban shadows. You literally create the world together and I think that that's kind of a neat way to start things off. I think it gives your players a huge base to start from as well as if you can help that use that information to help incorporate absolutely absolutely let that don't go yard building right and then you you know after that you kind of feather out your details you know you you may want to know things about the surrounding countryside that your that your city takes place licensure you know if if it's coastal is this the coast of a C. Or is the coast of the ocean. Is it along a river or something like that. You know you define that you may want to find with the outside area is like as it is deeply forested area as it nestled into the mountains etcetera what kind of around there but after that you're details can start getting real. Damn sketchy yeah until it becomes necessary like if your players have been played in the area for weeks upon weeks upon weeks is the weather changing. you know is it. Getting colder is getting warmer sure you know. Are they traveling north because it's getting drier you no. It's getting into the dry season you know. Are they helping a caravan. Leave to another area had a way that you're helping them move from one area to another you know. Is it a settlement or a resettlement mm-hmm it. Are they going on if they're on the sea are they traveling from colder waters to warmer waters. You know those kinds of things can have an impact if because a lot of times people think of think of campaigns is very static. I have a world has landed has mountains as lakes rivers. They don't necessarily think about how the people are going to travel on that and but yet when you're dealing with sea-based world or even space-based you still have to think about how are they traveling. you know so. What routes are you giving them. What routes are their optional. It'll to them you know and then how did those how are those going to look and feel what is the tactile on this those of of where they're traveling and how. Oh that's GonNa get them there. Because I think that really makes a much bigger difference. When you can say you know you make your way down to the port and the cold spray of the water hits you you can see the ships. Sir Lightly covered in frost that are coming into port because as you look out in out the bits of ice drift into port as the winter colds starts catching in you're like oh well. I guess I'm not leaving by sea or if I am relieving now. Grow out of a thing so you're setting that stage as much as you said it going into the woods insane you know the death breath of the woods as you drift into fall shows that there will be little foraging left now. You're setting that stage and you're given okay. We'll just going to be less animals and there's going to be less things to afford for an it's woods but it's also going to be thinner. Woods might be able to see a little bit further. You know things like that so you're setting those stages but you have to know what's there and what's beyond those woods yeah and it's again scene to scene you don't you don't need to have every square acre forest denault. Everybody who's going to be in it just just right. We'll kind of encounters are going to happen there. If you'RE GONNA run through it and that's that's I think one of the important things to is that I think you're in my experience and I think in years as swallow things we were discussing at dinner. Is that the players rarely remember that it was fifteen miles to get get through the woods right. You know they just remember that as they were going. Through those woods it took them wild get through and as they were there they got jumped by. ORCS works. I remember that time that four crack that guy's skull wide oh right that crit that was awesome Yup Yup and then now you know they're orcs in the woods right so now you've gotTa make that note to say okay well. I didn't think here where did those come from. Two they come from the mountains. Did they crash-landed meteor strike that happened just north of here and now when they get there's going to be bedier holes. Yeah I'm reading you got this Knox which would also explain the flying cows because they were there in the field when the meteor hit and that's where there's now cow debris everywhere so that being said you have to know what's one step beyond. Wha- just on the perimeter and keep track and consistency is the key not exactly keep it consistent. I know the truth since he is the key so all right. We talked a lot about what you just cannon I've seen I've also seen a lot of things online of lake They're like random. Generators view like the exact population of a town. Oh God like the exact population breakdown like seventy five percent human twelve percent to zero twelve carpenters and twenty default priests in seventeen cobblers like I have never ever been in a game where at his even remotely important information nation I mean more power to the people who cook those things up for you and I mean every tool you make available. Online is is good. I suppose you've never done an orbital strike. I guess I mean I to exterminate forward forward forward forward. That's right so I mean I'm. I'm saying that that can be important. I think it's great that they give you that information or power to him the more information they give you but I don't think it's necessary for every game yeah but they're they're putting it out there here for the fact that it's a well rounded design. They're giving it to you for all the options that could possibly come up. Yes grunk cars. You know store of ultimate finding gene is there but also there's a population of twenty percent elves and you know elves in your world are shunned so well. That's going to be an interesting kind of racist racist point to be in for Dr. You know yeah so. Maybe maybe there's some some things going on. There yeah gives you some gives you food for thought. I think that's what a lot of the generators do for me is that I'll do a random generation that a look at it and go okay. I'm seeing this ink blot. What is it telling me for my story. Yeah good way of putting it. They're like Rohrschack. Exactly what do you see in it. They just help you see something more. They give you another. I guess point of inspiration there there Bartik inspiration for storytellers yet. They give us just like hey. I have no idea what to do. This town random generator Eh didn't give it to me random generator. Oh I kinda liked that guy's name and odor the potion of that here okay. I know what's going on in this town. These are a bunch of thieves. They're here to murder everyone because actually the town is run used to be wonderful mining town but now it's completely run by group of disguised thieves who are all under the control of a illtyd there we go there you go and now. I have literally just came out of nowhere because a couple generators helped me come up with an idea so don't let those generators be overwhelming to let them be amuse yeah yeah you know like you did like worship acrylic some Tarot card. Yes just see what you see them. Yep and then you know use it or don't all right so we talked a lot about what you shouldn't do and what information discard and what to ignore but let's let's talk a little bit about actually look. If you do want to make the maps who you want to make you know you're realistic. sort of world stuff that you want to actually start mapping things out. 'CAUSE I. I still think it's it's useful to do. I should stress about it. No you should know that there are mountains to the north. Oh you're in. Maybe give him a cool name but like don't don't worry about like what the population of those mountains are. You know what monster random encounters going to be there unless the PC's are going through you know so make it realistic enough to make sense but don't stress out about realism. I think is the general rule of thumb for it. there's a lot of like. I mean there are geologists and you know I'm sure several other ancillary professions around geologists geologist that I don't know the the the proper names for who could tell you all sorts of stuff about how certain terrain features come to be from mountain arranges to vast forests two river basins to you know Plateaus Etcetera Etcetera and I'm sure that they could they could point out you know hundreds of thousands of years worth of geological change that makes them the way that they are in the reason that they are in the places that they are thank by the way thank you sean for the video. Please watch this later. I I know which one this is. I've seen this okay. It's great on the same time. It's a lot that you don't need so but it's literally what you're talking about right now. It's hey let's let's do the math behind creating a bio precaut- and it's like man yeah yeah and it's it's just it's it's too much so I mean you kind of want to make things realistic enough that they make sense but not don't like don't stress about real. No no no if you WANNA have you. WanNa have a big desert right in the middle of your of a jungle because you've got a good reason for it then. You've got a good reason for it. That's great great. Put it. They're like don't worry about whether the fact that there'd be a gigantic dry spot in the middle of in the middle of a vast rainforest. You know if there's a reason in your world for it put it there you know right right but keep in mind. The consistency is better than realism way better yeah. If you've got a reason for it. Put it there because that Mitt that's what makes that's what's GonNa make the interesting story about correct. I mean I'll give of it. I'll give an example when I was originally creating my last. Dnd World I created whole cloth I wanted something new but I needed something that fit and made sense that that combined all the players needs in it and so I had to figure out like okay so how am I going to create a world so I'm like I'm going to start with the continent single continent. I'm not going to worry about the rest of the world so I quickly sketched together what I needed. which was I needed a capital for humans a capital for elves capital capital works because each of them had certain reasons to be there and then I also needed to have a good reason reason to have them be separated and so created biomass zones to do that and then beyond that I left it all blank the rest of the page was all blink until it was starting to be discovered discovered by the players and I went and counter to encounter I basically filled in those voids yup all the way till they found your character which was kind of an area that I had set up then and we figured out who you were in that fit right in and then did it again when you made your second character and so it never really occurred to me that it was important until much later? I needed to see the whole world because of a change that was coming to the world and I went I needed I the change is going to be there for my final act which is still. GonNa come up here in a few months but I need you to see the world and that's when I actually created a world map and and ahead you were helping you out with that yeah yeah and it wasn't until then that actually mapped the whole thing. I had it in my head kinda where things were but it wasn't necessary wasn't even I didn't even have roads. Here's they weren't necessary very getting from place to place was a sketch here and there to you guys to let you know which General Direction you were going to like. Here's this big city and it's in the southeast right. Okay Cool Yup. It's fantastic this. Would it looks like this how it feels. It's awesome yeah and that's that's literally what she ended up with so. I don't think it's necessary if if it if it's stressing you out as a storyteller that you feel like you need to get it done before everything is good. I think you need to take a step back doc. I think that's the biggest problem that I have with maps is that it appears to be easy but it's not it's. It's harder. Try to fill out the details because you're never done yeah. It's writing its own store. There's there's always manusha. There's always little side stories and plots and your societies you can build and worrying about what's the economic comic reason for this society to be set up in this little corner this. Fort Lee Yeah Buddy unless the PC's or their does not matter you know yeah so just be consistent and try and have it makes some sense. Don't let that sense be hidden. Remember this is background. The background should just click for the players. The the only thing that should be mysterious or questioning or anything is the foreground plot and that those discovery should be made verbally and everything else. That's done through through description or through your traveling through the lands. It's fact remember that because if you ever giving your your players hints and and Ideas Eddie as in things through the description of places you're doing them a disservice because there may not all be listening and they gloss over that no different than if you're reading through a book and you know it's talking about certain characteristics until the player until the actor or the player is interacting with it. It's fact it's just what's there. It's the truth of what's their goal Robert. Jordan catches a lot of flack for that features describing every you know threat of tapestry that's hanging on the wall behind the person. Indus who's important in the scene but he's staring at it. I mean sometimes but other times very much. No I mean he just he goes into a lot of detail help because it's their right and and it very much great. It's a double edged sword because on one hand yes. It very much flushes out the world. It's a first world building. He has thought about the reason for every detail every piece of wood trim in the castle insurance in you know in in Kyron you know it doesn't matter to the physical story but it but it kind of doesn't and it shouldn't that's what I'm saying you can go into details about how cool the garrison new barracks are at your Sifi military base run by the UFC and that these specific firearms are wrecked perfectly perfectly and always armed that like you know at this time you know you can easily see the led readouts and some of the firearms are not fully loaded because of the fight. They just got back from great. That's fact you're just setting facts that has nothing to do with the story until one of the players has I'm going to start looking at the firearms. Okay now you can start coming up with details sure you can start breaking things down. I think it's important to that you can you can establish certain things like this as has world building but then they just kind of become shorthand after that you know like next time you are in these marine barracks you can be like end of course all of their weapons weapons perfectly rack like you've seen before and continue on and they've already got that elaborate description of how meticulous these marines are about keeping their barracks and all of their equipment in complete pristine condition sure go into detail about that the first time but after that it just becomes an attribute until it becomes important until until you until those players roll a die and say okay somebody give me a perception check you roll it. I you notice that three of the helmets are missing along the top edge. Why is that important well. I think you remember last time. It was in perfect order so that's an important thing to the story versus you listing off that it is just that as a description yeah like it should be just a normal thing so case. Wait knocks yes. If if you are putting into description over describing something you might be doing your players disservice in their thinking that that's a red herring at a certain point aboard two yeah or they're. GonNa think everything's red hair. Yes and that's that's really where you you wanna you. WanNa step back from that case in point the chair. Oh Man oh man there was this there. Is this whole thing where in critical role they described he he described his chair that was kind of it seemed out of place in the middle of this room that had been ransacked and like matthew could not get the players to extend it was just the chair who says attorney yeah. It was just to indicate that maybe someone who was sitting in there for a while working right. He just added as a detail like wait a minute hold on. There's a chair in here. Tell us about the chair and he's like. It's just a chair. They're like so. Is it like padded or is there any you know we look at the chair. Does science struggle was throwing ready. You ready sitting immediately would've jumped on that. I would have immediately like if the players are interested in a chair fine. I'll tell a story about that share and it's going to change the whole plot. Why because they're interested. They're intrigued why not no see this. Are you real rotary no railroading. It's it's not railroading. It's staying on track. There's a difference between the two all right now. We're getting into a fundamental problem you ready. What's track for a player all right. So here's my only get to play eight hours every month. I'm with you okay sure I do not want suspend four of those hours examining a God's forsaken chair and don't but don't give him some if they are interested in an object her give them something from the object. It's a side quest. Do It let it run away. Get did get them off the chair but if you give them. I'm nothing they'll keep digging request connected to the CIA. We're getting. We're getting so far off topic. No no who cares who cares I I do because there's a couple of things. I want to questions questions all right so if you're going to draw maps. I've got some tips for you. Do it all right right so because I'm terrible at its tour I the first thing to think about is like climate zones. Climate zones are thing is you're there are therefore primary climate zones tropical subtropical temperate yeah and cold shirt okay we here in Michigan. We live in a temperate zone and as you get closer to the equator you're GonNa get more tropical as you get closer to the polls. You're going to get more cold in. Yes so things to consider about where your lands fit within within those okay second thing you want to think about is relative levels of fertility of the area so typically like water sources are going to create for tile environments hence why Egyptian culture cultures out in the desert built along the River Nile was the only place that they could get their shit to grow in the Sahara desert. You know so think about that because you're societies are gonNA usually pop around there and such like that. It's also going to dictate to you where things like. Forests and swamps are going to be as opposed to things like deserts and Badlands Roy okay third thing you're going to think about is topography. Okay okay mountains are going to occur generally in lines and think about our own rocky mountains and Appalachian Mountains how they're lesser craters wellness or craters but those aren't really a unless a crater is literally like the size of a continent typically. It's couldn't be more of land feature than it looks something of a mountain range. That's going to span possibly hundreds of miles right you can have erosion based craters and erosion errosion based like the Grand Canyon good example of mountains. That aren't really mountains right. Yeah your water features will definitely erode things into your into your features and whatnot like that but to think about think about that. You know how like mountains occur like your mountain ranges should typically be lines. Water is going downward innovation elevation so things are going to come out of high areas like your mountains and flow into low areas and typically into your larger bodies of water until you hit the ocean front right if you have those in your world and then you kind of put all three of these things together your climate your relative level of Lake activity and you know sort of looking for foliage are all going to inform what by Oems uh-huh are going to be there by basically you're you're sort of like archetypes for Land so forests plains deserts swamps all those things and so if you've got a low lens that has a lot of water in it. It's an highly fertile area you. Maybe you have a swamp. They're grow if you have highlands islands that are very dry. Maybe you've got some some plateaus. You know some desert plateaus like New Mexico styles sorta stuff no be creative yeah and but to that degree you've also got where people are. GonNa be so if you've got a military style world where he might have forts awesome things like that. Remember view is important early on in early war. view is everything if you've got the high ground you're winning. Yup Yep because you can see them coming. You prepare for them better and you're you things fall really easily things. Don't go up very easily. Archers Archer's Yup get lots of range from elevation. Yes exceptional range and you know you can just drop rocks. It has worked for years. You know mass hurts. It's so yeah so when you get your your your topography all kinds of late out and stuff like that and you start putting settlements on your map. That's a great thing to keep in mind mind. other thing to keep in mind too is natural chokepoints are great places for millions elements. Yes setting up this. One Mountain Pass for fifty miles in either either direction that you can get through here. Guess what's here a fucking fort well three hundred you gotta go through this to get past a exactly. There's there's a fort here now so but aside from that from from non. Melcher from civilian standpoint your civilian settlements are typically going to be set up where they are economically. You were economically or survivable viable. so for instance your pioneers went out into the world however long ago to settled it'll to set up the settlement and there's going to be you know they found that this was a rich fertile land. This was the only place that they could build because nothing nothing grew anywhere else so their survivability dependent upon them creating a settlement here. Yes okay so if you do have something that makes excellent farmland or something like that. Bam put a settlement in it or economically viable and this means putting things in ports yeah putting things along rivers or putting things at major crossroads yeah you've got your your settlements but usually would follow settlements is commerce so in the same regard sometimes sometimes settlements were pushed by Commerce Yup. Were you've got trade. People who are trying to set up a settlement so that they can continue to trade you know and move farther on you know and in that you definitely have that kind of push which is its own form of. I would say military style. I mean you could definitely do that with our own history and say that traders were a major portion of of the the of the English takeovers and settlements that they set up you know so as they expanded their trade empire. You know it produced a very large settlement base that came out of that so think about who's doing this. Why why I mean people don't just send people for no good reason right. People don't like owning land for no good reason they send people to a new land either because a they don't want them here anymore. You know they're they're literally prisoners. Getting ship way exiled yeah exactly you know or and then you get Australia exactly which can happen more. You find you send people to find what's available once it's been discovered like yeah there's value here now. We're going to settle because we you want to own that value right you want to we want to own it. We want to take it and run a bring it back to the motherland or whatever right. We want everyone else here to have it as well. Yes you know and so that's it's where you have to think about why that's where that y for the people while you're doing it so then it again just haven't makes sense yep absolutely so so again you don't have to create all your cultures and stuff of that off off the bat but just look at places that you do create on your map and just start thinking like okay well you. You know there's a mountain pass may be here. Maybe there's a village along the river there yeah oh this this'll inlet or here would make an interesting place to put a port city eighty right you know and those are very sound places to put them. Thomas. I think it's about it. The only thing I think I've got on here is just talking about what afraid to break the rules geography as well. No don't do it if it makes sense so big ways like you know like I said earlier having you know huge desert in the middle of verdant jungle maybe because there's some sort of chronic force that lurks beneath the surface of your world that you know caused a huge dead spot in the middle of your jungle. I don't know I mean the other thing that you can get at is like the where you've got a world events that have changed for instance. Yeah your world might be a little different but that might because like we assume that we have our world with a you know mooned orbit it orbits it and that's why we have what we have. There's nothing to say that your world couldn't have been more screwed up and you've actually got an asteroid belt around it a disc and that disk changes the entire topography of what you you think is normal places where it's in shade twenty four seven is actually frozen and that's like not even at the equator again that disk would cover a huge section yeah right yeah so there might be a fifty mile swath. That's literally ice in between two jungles because the sun beats right through you know and maybe you've. I've got two sons so you're you have you know twenty eight hours of sunlight and then darkness partial darkness Red Darkness for a while and then golden darkness business for another while you know so you have these different settings that can produce very different biomass but again let them make sense for why they're like that yeah so you can do smaller more stylistic changes so taken normal bio look a forest and make it crystal trees sure were mountains that reach so high that like large chunks them literally float because they're in the upper atmosphere or something. I don't know I don't know whatever you can do whatever you want them as fears that well it'd be interesting or typically sound but but also scientifically sound isn't like half the world got chewed away yeah you're on on this weird orbital access with chunks of the earth that are literally just not there yet on the other side of the Earth's who's doing okay but because of that gravitational shift gift now you have this odd atmosphere where it's actually thinner in certain areas and totally frozen planes at a certain altitude you know. I I totally say where there's no oxygen. Even you know in in the last thing is just various variations on your typical homes so but so instead of desert salt flats you know sort of a jungle sort of a forest just make it make it a jungle you know maybe it's a rainforest instead of swamps make them sulphurous sulfurous hot springs. You know something a little more rare with a little more pizzazz but still not out of the realm of out of their own possibility I. I think that's really a look at the sand geography. Go out there and do your best yeah just have fun with Jeff on because at the end of the day. Your players are going to remember the stories. They told hold in the land is far more than they're. GonNa remember the map all right questions yeah. I may madoff will be back to your questions. We prompt next ext weeks week history questions and Oho Oho. Are we going to history. Yes all right. Do you have other questions so overwatch dragon the dragons the dragons the powers of chaos and war hammer white walkers in song of ice and fire. Is there one standout supernatural something that really helps to defined find a particular setting. Have you used something like that in your own campaign who I mean I I think probably my go-to answer both because I'm a huge fan girl and because I'm currently running elder scrolls game right now is going to be the Deidra Adra okay I really liked the Deidra I find them intriguing on the whole cosmology of the eligible universe very intriguing and I think I like having like meddlesome gods that lurk on the outskirts of our world constantly trying to push their own archetype into to into mortal society because they're bored and they liked toying with us and some of them don't like the fact that they were like locked worked out of you know being able to interact with US interesting. Okay okay you know I I liked and disliked all at the same some time what I did in my d game with the orbs of power created magical orbs that effectively were these crystals energy they were of a certain tight whether it was an aberration or or conjuration or yeah yeah probably one of those and basically when you were near one the magic potential of that type became a vertically strong the big one was a orbs of law where the big ones that I pushed in in which was that anything being done in a lawful way or byways of law were almost enforced so people in towns basically just follow the law whatever ever the law was because it was the lawful thing to do. They were impassioned to do it. They didn't realize it but outside of that you had these. It's just a cars who would kind of Rome. The roads like almost like sheriffs and help people like Oh. You're getting near the city. That's this town these the laws within that town be aware of it and really what they were doing was. They were prepping you for that. When you got in there you knew what was lawfully right to do. You know the thing was there were other orbs that they didn't really tell people about like or punctuation and aberration evocation which definitely had other power sets a lying to them in that caused a lot of off turmoil in the world. I need to get my hands on occasion and for reasons on so yeah that was one of the things that I liked but at the same time it made the challenging but I I basically set the rules very simple and stuck to those rules as much as I could and the players did use them a few times to do some serious destruction so exactly but no. I like a lot of different worlds for a lot of reasons. I think the one that sticks out the most for me in a setting is shadow run and I think it's the mega corpse yeah very such a neat design and it's a simple thing that you that's just an extrapolation of our own world but it carries so much for that setting so much and it changed so much in in that setting because without them in that setting if they weren't if the rules in what they were weren't how they interact and you we no need for Johnson yet have a very different institution yeah so they create the world in such a hard way but leave so much available play with so. That's one of the things I really like. I really it cuts so all right. We got more all right so Nachson box which is a bit of a long question says a storytellers natural impulses to to build flawless system for their world which aren't going to be perfect they will be flawed which your players will recognize and possibly expect the question gene is do we let the world have its flaws naturally or should we design them intentionally in an effort to create realism by leaving room for for systems to fail by being so definite and more loose or gray base go the world system focus more on potential rather than actuality for example. Perhaps is hogwarts sorting hat house characteristic system. Oh so kind of like how in Harry Potter's world there are only four types of kids brave ambitious smart and other hungry hungry. I guess yeah friendly early friend helpful. I'm not sure but I mean but at the same time that that definition is loose. It's meant to be flawed. Yeah I mean if if you really look at that there were definitely people in each one of the houses that were jerks. There were definitely odd helpful. People in houses says that you didn't necessarily think but they were doing it in a cunning way so yes. It's a flawed system but it's I would say it's flawed by design. It's just I flawed in the way that it was built. Yeah I mean literally. The world opened itself to its own flaws because you had you the question came up like wire kids even taking this crap from you know from this type of school when they're clearly smarter and should be able to leave insurers shit kids will and they did the weasley brothers just left school. Yeah you know and we're destructive about it so again. I think you set the world without the idea of flaws but you have to do it from the perspective of your world builders so for instance. There's a king thing and his whole thing is to get resources from this area and hold it. It's going to be very military strong. He's not going to be thinking about the economy and your players may exploit that they may do something silly. They may just join his guard. You know or convince him that they could defend things better and then you know step up off to the side and be like we said we were going to defend this but in fact we're not right and we're we're bandits. Actually we just although your shit. Oh God you know leverage kind of crap so don't think that you need to set up any flaws the world we'll be flawed on its own but I think those flaws are inherent in everyone's design. I mean as usual I think probably becoming known for this quote. I'm of two minds about it. That's fine I think on one hand yeah. I think a I get it. There's going to be flaws. They're just they're. They're just going to come out during game. Play rob talking about it but at the same time I mean I have outright designed flaws into things sure because it makes for a dramatic story people aren't perfect. People aren't going to create perfect systems but if it's important to the story I think definitely yes yeah in or not even not even necessarily that it's important to the story but that it's a world building aspect that could could create story or not story in and of itself just that you know this is a say a Fia craddock society that that heavily focuses on worshiping this one God and there's one way to the exclusion of all others and that has brought them. You know an economic downturn in because their faith does not allow them to do one particular thing which would be very advantageous for them but they they they rebuke it right. You know I M and that's obviously a flaw. Law writes it. It's IT'S A. It's an ingrained in flexibility that is causing harm to their society and it's not necessarily a story because there's not players in it. There's not an outcome to it's just a thing that exists. This society is built this way term. Do with it what you want. That's just how the pieces are set on the board from there. You could have story that emerges if your players begin to interact with it if they begin to try to push society in one way another. They're gonNA see the inflexibility as people push back on them as you know you're you're trying to tell me to turn against my God or whatever maybe they do end up convincing them to change their ways. you know. CETERA ET CETERA. I Dunno whatever you can come whatever stories you want but I think I I'm a big believer. that good stories come from flaws rob seen several of my characters in the past across several game systems and you know that that's usually where I start our building. My characters is with flaws. Oh no I think flaws had characters are great idea. I usually take my character fits this archetype but they're messed up in this way right right and and that's going to be my struggle you know and you know for instance Ravenna we were just talking about your world and your the mountains and stuff that you put in there my character in that world is the a Mountain Guide and a frost wizard essentially and she's just an old country country issues issues young country girl and she sees things very very black and white but that's her flaw yeah you know. I know that I know the fact. Servando sees things in a very black and white manner. There's only good and only evil all undead fall into evil thing so if you're talking to a ghost you're probably probably colluding with evil okay. That's just trying to look on life because she learned that on dead were bad yeah no I. I think that flaws ause for characters do a great job. I think that to continue with what you're saying. When you're doing it in world building keep it simple not everyone's wins genius and World Building. Yeah a lot of people I mean I I would say that most people are not heroic and are not smart enough to do really smart to do unique end perfect things and I think some people who get too smart tend to lose sight. They get blinders. Yeah they get smart to an area and funny enough funny enough. I'll throw this before we move on okay. I was watching a video of everyday astronaut The guy who does every astronaut we're not talking to Elon Musk and one of the things that he was talking about with the new spacecraft was that they would would he worked on helping them simplify because you can if you don't ask the question why I need follow the specification nation you might not ever fixed the actual. You might not be able to find a better solution because it's like I'm building this nut and this is the specification so you have to to build a screw that fits this nut and that has okay well. This bolt hole needs to be this big because this is the size the street going through it and that means this plate has to be this thick because it's so you go back to the first guy well. Why did you build a nut that specification. Oh it's what we had available and you just literally designed everything based on that first nut because it was just completely probably there some guide the far end. WHO's trying to make sure everything works perfectly in his literally doing engineering Superman and everything to get the weight down and taking them hours to design flawless flawless thing and then he re then everybody just scrap it. That's too challenging. Let's not do it that way. let's do it this way and so they literally did that. They built a huge carbon-fiber thing to be able to be to build a whole carbon-fiber rocket and they're like whoa why are we doing. This does literally every time we do this redesign another thing. Can we do this out of stainless steel. Yeah it's cheaper yeah. Can we just use stainless steel. Oh Yeah it's got great properties. Let's just go stainless steel then scrap all that design work we did why because it's the smart the thing to do sometimes you have to do that and so it takes a lot of intelligence group intelligence to watch that process and stop it and fix it and that doesn't happen most times yeah most times. It is a dumb thing that happens. We need to block off this. Damn get a bunch of boulders. We're GONNA put this all in here. We'll use some mortar will lock doc. It in that should take care of everything. Did anybody remember that we have tremors every summer know exactly so just remember that the tens to be designed by committee so and just to just to answer your question. Knox my he he writes Mike. My concern is talk crossing a routine dotting every I makes the world to perfect and unrealistic so don't try to build a perfect system yet. You're not going to be able to know your one person and you're trying to write a whole story this this. This thing is your systems are just parts of it so you're. GonNa have flaws allow yourself to have Fleischer yourself for them right now and just try roll with him and Improv around him. Come up for reasons why they're flaws are there and tell your story around him. Princeton storytelling. I like it. I like it all right technolog- coach when it comes to starting from scratch with geography defined it more valuable to start with larger items than move towards specifics or start with well-defined nugget and build ended into built into it both yeah you could make an argument for either bone say it really depends on what story you're trying to tell you it. Also I guess from me. If I'm starting I I rarely start from geographical sense in my head space but now that I think about it more so it's chicken or egg for me like what's my story. Orey yeah. Sometimes they'll come up like this time. It's going to be romance. Sometimes I'm thinking about the world and so I might draft some ideas about the world that everything is going to be a light sketch everything everything and I I will race rebuild and and do things multiple times but more times than not everything will be very blurry beyond what the players are going to see for the first I would say five sessions I will think about about five sessions out if they literally dissession did this and then immediately followed the train to this session. That immediately followed the trend to this session. And how far will they go. What will they see. What will they need to field interact with and at that point start with a well-defined nugget and then build around that I would say starting in this town so I'm going to define the hell out of this town and then five game sessions later when they're like. We're GONNA leave the town okay well now. I need to figure out what's out there kind of and I I if I'm going to do the world build say. Do you see mountains from where you're at. Do you do feel cold. You know things like that like how and but all that is going to be on a piece of scratch paper. Maiden Pencil would just little little jots like okay. There's mountains appeared. There's some of this over here awesome and a lot of that will be filled on by when my players are creating their characters okay. Where are they from What do they know and then that's all. That's all gray light sketches unless everybody was born and raised in that town. I need to have gray sketches everywhere else to say. This is what we know in somewhat. I've done it both ways. I've I've my own homebrew. Campaign was started off with geography I kind of sketched in the whole world and then kind of refined that down to okay whatever kingdom boundaries around here and then okay which what each one of these kingdoms do and what are they you know how to interact with each other and stuff that okay now. Where's the capital city and where the societies and stuff that I I've done it that way and I think it was moderately successful at least as a first sort of experiment but I think nowadays I tend to start with well-defined nugget and build out from there so I agree with Robert. Really depends on story. You're telling bring all right now. We're to Knox backing up so mike tablets to increase things all right here we go Is there a pre preferred world building order that best helped secretion of geography or does that depend on your story. You're trying to tell for example. You're writing a pantheon. I if you're going to tell stories of how God's shaved where believes shaped land are maybe you were writing history. I to explain the world that that was shaped by centuries of events perpetrated by Life Forms Trans Magic's of the world really all depends. Oh God yeah. I mean if you're if you're planning on building. A epoch campaign doesn't made up of multiple stories. You want a world and I think in that sense. He need history. You need things and I think it's based upon your Muse. Yeah like what's driving you about that. Story is going to determine where your start point so. I don't think who what when where why has a specific start point. I think it's up to you. What's Your Muse. Point is. Which one of those is your Muse are you. Are you really concerned about the people right now now. What are the people doing. There's this king yes and this control okay now. I've got my start point and literally the ripples move out from there. Okay where where where's this king How is this King Romeo and Juliet but what if Montague and capulet were warlord exactly each owned half of the kingdom. What would that do to the landscape okay now. Let's come up with the reasons for that happening and what what is the landscape look like right right. Cetera et Cetera you radiate out the you're starting with your who yeah whereas I will give you a different one in savage world that Chris used he started from the moon broke. Yeah here's the world yeah as we know it today. Contemporary the moon was shattered. Oh crap what did that do to our planet and it changed everything and from that he remodeled the world and said okay well. There's this type of race of this and this type of race of this and this is y and these are the things here and these are God's you know what's a God. Maybe it's an Ai don't oh you know and so all of these things are parts of his world that was created post apocalypse so the important part in his story for world old building or prior to that world building is the apocalyptic event and that's what changed everything so I think it's about your muse point and then go from from your Muse and ripple out from there yeah absolutely there's no wrong way to do it but I definitely think that's a more fun way and you'll definitely ripple back in remade sure in the world building and then setting world building story or story World Building Setting or story setting world building. I mean that's all different as well so you know but that gets into a much deeper discussion discussion about how you feel about that center point what started this whole thing right right right very and and keeping in mind too you know your world building may may may take backseat to everything else. I mean there are some people who sketch out elaborate whole world's with maps and everything mapped out before they ever ask players layers to sit at their table and play in that world view. Notre called coast. Yeah well serious lum but you know but there are people who do that. Yeah and that's and that's great it certainly attack you can take but there are also said like. Dungeon world tells you leaves blank spots. A MAP world building is specifically in Dungeon world put in the back seat. It's like no that that's literally the last. Stop Lake. I you come up with a story second. We make characters to put in that story third we figure out where that story takes place and we also figure that out along the way from the seat of our pants with with the input of our players right so you know depends on your setting depends on your on your muse point yeah. Just you could really do it. A lot of different ways yeah so either way have fun with it so next. Week's topic is history history and I almost feel like it's going to be kind of the the same sort of discussion yeah. It's going to be less about what you need to write and more about what you don't need to right yeah and so I I kinda want some direction on this from the people who are listening so if you're listening to us live thank you so much think about some questions you wanNA throw. Don't write them up there yet because I want to put a marker in our chats. I know where a break point is for this but get get some ideas flowing about what things about history questions you have about history. We have some out there which we are going to insert. We put you off for three weeks. arses answered. Luckily we see you. You are so valid. You're part of this world. You're part of our history. This will happen but throw some questions because we kind of need a direction direction because there's a lot that we could talk about and there's so much that I started watching it and I literally had to stop because you can lower is such a challenging part of history and it is its own thing in history it really is so and then you have stuff like pre existing worlds. Were you to figure out where you are. Seven does a good job of that. It's like you're at this point in time. When you play Yep you work and then when you're done and you start a new one you come back to that point at trinity a on Verse Games. They do the exact same thing like abberant takes place here. Adventure is nineteen twenty eight yeah period. You know you know things like forgotten realms or or feral or elder scroll elders for a long long. It took us to how long it took me to figure out just where I wanted to set our game chronologically. Let alone physically. No I'm with you. I'm with you. There's just so much so anytime you got massive acid lower you start running those risks so we'll we'll definitely get into a figure out kind of questions you really want to ask about history and we may not get a lot and if we don't worry has some fun with it but yeah and then we've got ideas for our next. Excuse me few shows but we'll get to those. I think we're GonNa Fun and we we do plan on doing some for for Halloween walls and fun with that too so all right so once we've got. We've got that I think we are. We're just about ready. I think we've got two. We got like one to two minutes. How all right anybody got a quick question on the live chat show. Do It do it do you. Do you got like a minute. Yeah come on Knox. You're on the spot Doodoo. ooh Doodoo overwatch come on anything you'd of noxitril boxes. Oh keyed sink hoping why though why why why oh Nice Nice. We see this all right. What have we got because always always for cheap. That's right. That's right. Come on now. You gotTa have something Gassama. Give us something anything. This is why live chat is available. It's terrible no aw don't make me to a Osama. I see everybody typing. I see I'd like they're typing too much. We kind of we kinda. Put them on the spot. We totally did we totally should have preempted this with something okay because it was time uh-huh uh-huh if Mr good wrench was a tool tip tool aw I will not just a ranch good wrench miter saw him sorry we were looking for. MITER saw too slow too slow yeah. Where do you guys like dropping characters shit. We're do I where where I guess I usually do. Towns yeah usually do towns you major cities but I'm starting to change my mind on that because I think I might start doing more chaotic settings where you're like you find yourself on the edge of a Craig. 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Not Your Mother's Holiday Movie Roundup

Scary Mommy Speaks

35:40 min | 8 months ago

Not Your Mother's Holiday Movie Roundup

"First of all when Elsa I uses her powers and her parents are still alive. Right okay. Those mansion wooden floors must have been ruined and all of that in that beautiful castle. One hundred control those hardwood floors were row. Ed It's not like when it stops being cold it just disappears. How are they going to get that water out? That's why you have servants. They don't even have paper towels back then. Scary Fees Husky. Mommy speaks Kerry. I am so excited about today's episode. It's all about movies and TV and you know that's my favorite thing in the world to talk about. I really do not know how you have so much time for. TV movies. I my TV maybe and I used to love TV. And I can't hardly have any time to watch it anymore. It does feel like because I'm the one who is talking about things it does feel like I have an obscene amount of time to watch TV. But I I really don't watch it during the day. That's like Sebastian domain. So it's nighttime you currently have two devices out and I'm not convinced that you are not watching a television show on one of your. Ah Now as we record you know you never know you're good multitasker so you could anyway. There are lots of movies coming out during Thanksgiving so we're going to talk about movies and do a special cartoon tune confidential on frozen in honor of the release of frozen to. We weren't parents during that frozen era right we I mean I definitely went to the movies to see. See it but with my friends kid helping wrangle the kids in the movie theater so I missed a lot of it so we really had to go out of our way this time yet to really see it. But we're also GONNA talk about last Christmas. And that's episode starring Amelia Clark Tokyo Dragons. It is the perfect holiday movie for a mom and her daughter and and we mean adult daughter. Definitely I mean. It's not terrible for kids but adults. Don't send them say yeah. We're GonNa talk about dark waters starring. Mark Ruffalo this. This one is dark and maybe not one. You WanNa bring your children to title dark. It is dark It's definitely not a feel good film but it is. I think it's a very important. It's very important movie. It's it's important to learn that you know you're the best advocate for you and your family is yourself Yup and and it's based on a true story right. It's based on a true story that has some really important information that every parent should. Now we get to see a lot of heroes on screen and today day we will also interview one of our scary Mommy's about an everyday hero that she encountered in a parking lot and our favorite part of the show Kenan fashion. So make sure you stick around for that. Because they're fun. Okay but I can I ask you a question region ask away you know what new diapers I love Ash. Tell me huggies special delivery their huggies softest diaper ever here feel it come. Put it on your face Jason. Okay all soft it is. Oh Wow I can take off my Mascara with this. Only let me tell you. These diapers were great during the day and overnight plus they're the softest plant based diapers twenty three percent by weight to be exact. I love it. Can I also give props to huggies. There's finally a data on the box. Yes take that. So if you're a new mom no a new mom or ran out of cotton to remove your eye makeup. Go Try huggy special delivery diapers. Trust me you'll feel great about it when it's it's on your baby sweet little sensitive skin. Just look for the black and white boxes with the red huggies. What is your all time favorite Christmas movie? All right well loaded question. I know I have. I have a couple everybody you should one I mean I love scrooge and bad Santa I think I think my El- I'm not into the classic Alf Shelf is my number one as legitimate. And he so good or not he so As I love well Farrell will. I mean it's it's will ferrell at his most genius he he is so innocent and childlike. And so good. He's just the best and I love home alone. All right I just I love home alone two so not to. I mean do like home alone too but I like home alone to maybe better than home alone while I was lost in New York but only because of that scene where where. He's on top of the brownstone throwing the bricks. I remember as a little kid to never laugh as hard as I did in that scene so I have some very very refund news. I went to a screening this week for last Christmas. Emilia Clarke is like this woman. WHO's down on her luck And she works at had a Christmas store so there are no dragons but she is consistently pretty much in an Elf costume my God and she's tiny two. That's probably the cutest thing and then Henry Henry Golding is in it from crazy regime handsome so handsome handsome. Emma Thompson isn't love her. She is not only plays like a very Eastern European mother. Okay who sings very eastern European song. But she wrote it. Oh I didn't cheer right or is this your first writing. Babies is not you said so there was a really great. QNA afterwards with Emma Thompson and Paul fee who directed it Paul Office. Yes freaks fixing Geek love freaks and geeks female ghostbusters lady. Buster's is I like to lady buster. She said that she had been working on the movie for seven years. Oh and the entire soundtrack has George Michael. Okay which is superimposed. Okay I love George Mike does it so hard and I think we should cut to a little bit of Emma Thompson and Paul feed talking because perfect. All right we so anxious moment everywhere uh-huh and we need to have seen some where people are being kind to one another and learning how to be kind and tolerant and giving using unaccepted familiar movie about you guys. I Wanna I wanNA skill different. So let me tell you a little breakdown breakdown of what actually happened to the screening. And then afterwards they brought us into this really pretty like library room and we all SAT. It was like a little tee. A little like T. They had mimosas. TC images and Then we got a nice little photo op with the mother of Dragon. Amelia cars so cute and Henry golding she is the tiniest was she like micro person not is so tiny that I just WanNa like. Put Her in my pocket and feeder. gummy bears probably the height of your arms. So I go up to take this photo between the two of them and I did something. You're not supposed to do when you interview celebrities. Good what did you do Woah. I trust you with anyone no you can't I said Hi Amelia You are kind of the quintessential mother you. You are the mother of all mothers. The mother of dragons I work for a mom media company and I would love if you could say tricare scary. Mommy and she did ED and it's super bootleg. It's kind of like a like a mix album used to buy like in Herald Square exactly but okay let me yes. Paris scary mummy. Thank you so much Colucci George. Michael Hawkeye from crazy. His agents. Emma Thompson like dat is a winner. Right there anything better last. Christmas is such a great movie. It's it's in theaters everywhere now. So where your best elf shoes jingle all the way to a screen near you cartoon confidential Cart Art so froze into is coming out and we've still got let it go let it go don't Homemade sorry I had to have the song in your head do now should we recap. Let's recap the movie before we go. I don't know how you can live on this planet and have children and have not seeing this movie at this point but just in case you haven't frozen is about two sisters two princesses of Airedale. Who Guess what their parents die their parents I every single cartoon about children? It's the only tragedy judy that kids can really understand their like. We'll never leave you. Don't worry and then cut to death them dying right turns out. Elsa has this magical ability ability the eldest of the two sisters. It's not a curse it's an ability its inability where she can turn things into ice and snow and she can freeze them. That's a better way of say they. She freezes them great dermatologist. She would threes that mole right off but she can freeze things and she ends up when playing with her younger sister. Anna ends up hurting her out. How and they take her to the magical troll people? He's turned into troll and they fix her sister. But you gotta be careful because it is only gonNA grow stronger right and your emotions are like out of control so you better check yourself before you wreck everything and another stirred becomes recluse right. Their relationship gets Turkey it suffers. It gets tricky. Yeah and hilarity ensues coronation. Day comes and Anna meets a prince also becomes the Queen and then she all hell breaks loose when she turned summer into winter. Yes she's in charge of global warming. It's all our fault okay. So let's let's start this thing first of all when Elsa I uses her powers and her parents are still alive right okay. Those mansion wooden floors must have been ruined. All of that is under in that beautiful castle you cannot control those hardwood floors. were row ED. It's not like when it stops being cold it just disappears. How are they going to get that water out? That's why you have servants they. They don't even have paper towels back. Then your servants. I know I've never seen a paper. Talented Disney movie ever not even like Toy story which is current day thing. I know paper towels dollars. Echo else's dad right before he dies tells her to calm down. Ok Lesson men never tell a woman to calm down. You'll know that already do. Never tell a woman to calm down when she's upset because it will do the opposite also. Don't tell US crazy. That's my husband's made that one also don't say conceal it don't feel it which is a theme but also he like perpetually like censor away into her room couldn't have just punished her and been like. Listen we're going to get you a special therapist. WHO treats who turn like gets you? Hardly Mr Megie who like teaches you. Oh how to harness your power so you're not just fucking things up the head space APP. She needed a meditation up the call me at home APP. I feel like that that that was very severe. I think Diane Keaton also has this frozen gift. 'cause she's always wearing gloves she is. I did see her in person at the weight me once and she was wearing gloves. So maybe maybe she has the also be Elsa and she's concealing it instead of feeling is definitely a lot more neurotic than Elsa. Don't you think that Elza should maybe like corners power and become a professional ice sculpture. Those people make a lot of money like she could be the Zamboni but the Human Zamboni. Yeah she could make really impressive like Ice Luge says that you were shots into people's Mallet House at a holiday parties the grey streak in London. It is very stacy Lyn. I love it I I WANNA talk. Can we talk about the Ice Castle for Hotak. Yeah we're kind of slippers. Do you wear when you live in an ice castle hugs. That seems. Like the only appropriate treads treads on them. Yeah you can't you have to wear something with the rubber sole where does she sleep in the Ice Castle. There's no bed in the beds. The sheets made of ice or whole never bothered take any way like does she take a bath now she shower. You don't really smell when it's cold. How how does she function as an everyday person? How does she drink water water? Also how hot does also look what she's like. Fuck it I'm GonNa be me. She turned into that. Alfano girl. Like lively grow. You look fabulous lively. It's even down to the braid so perfect but has some str when I tried to do that breed because it's business in the Front Party when I tried to do that breed in my hair because my hair so layered. It's like I basically have like a Bob with a rat tail braid coming out. Her says good though where is amazing. She's Blake lively cleavage. A slip up her skirt and she walks totally dash young girls. Feel like okay. This is a deep dive. I feel like Anna is twenties Ashley like in her like treating dating like she's changing her underwear like every day new underwear new man. I'm like that was basically me I was just like and today. I'm hanging out with this guy and tomorrow I'm hanging out with that one. I mean she meets this guy and in one day falls for the I love you so much. Let's get married and I will. I will say had somebody come to me in my twenties and said I love you. Let's get married even though we just met. I probably it would've been like fix about it. No let me tell you. I'm a little triggered right now because Anna Somehow managed to get engaged in four minutes. I've been waiting for years for him. I'm triggered in four minutes and I can't even get an engagement in four years ears in a baby. Their eyeballs are so big. Maybe bigger eyeballs. Bradshaw they are like little Mula Kunas running around also okay. The song that the troll sing about Kristof being a fixer upper. Do we really need to perpetuate the idea. Yeah that we need to save men no we don't it's been shown me a well adjusted fucking dude men. We Talk K.. Listen I know you were raised by trolls but that is no excuse. No excuse me my son finds joy out of picking his nose and eating it and make sure people see it. So he's going to be a fixer upper. I will say I do love that. The end of the movie is like only an act of true. Love Will Save Anna and the true love is an act between two sisters. I know it's really really beautiful. And there's even a part where like Kristof is running towards her and it's a real like this is the love moment and she literally turns away from from him for her sister. Yeah I love I love that too that resonates with you and I because we would do that I would. I would kiss your cold heart. I'm looking forward to seeing frozen to two more frozen. I'm called. It's called her frozen frozen to their back and their colder frozen to the frozen Est.. It's froze at that. My friend is another episode of cartoon confidential so we were very lucky to see another terrific film recently and it really did very much affect us. It's the film dark waters and You know it's funny because it sounds like something. We all got into our inlaws over Thanksgiving Turkey situation. Jewish yes but it or like maybe some digestive issues after Thanksgiving airy dark waters very muddy. Water I digress. The movie stars Mark Ruffalo. Who you know? I have affection for because he looks like my partner. You all know him. Not because he looks like my partner Lee okay. But because of his probably from his role as the hulk and his zillion other all oh my God he's so good but he instead of playing the hulk hero he played real life. Hero Robert Balat. Who took on huge huge? Huge Mega Chemical Company Dupont and and filed a ton of suits and one and still is taking on Iraq dupont. Yes let's not forget every day here is still actively fighting this company Which is why this movie is so important because although although this is common knowledge that this you know I actually don't think it's that common when I say common knowledge I mean it's not hidden the eighties if you talk to certain people they know this issue but it's not as mainstream as it should be And you know. The currency L. is a couple up until a couple of weeks ago was still saying that there was nothing wrong with Teflon and the chemical. That's in Tavlin is also in a lot of other things and things that repels stains that Kinda the stuff you know we always say this real heroes don't wear capes. Yeah and he's one of them have this lawyer It's always thrilling to be invited to any red carpet. We've been lucky to go to a few yeah We got to speak with Mark Ruffalo about the film. He was there with his gorgeous wife. Also lovely educated about this specific topic. Half they both spoke to us about the impact the movie made on their lives. And what things we can do and what resources we can go to to find out what is safe. And what isn't safe right. Firstly the movie is amazing. You're fantastic and what changes did you really make your own life after after doing a project like this. We don't have any teflon bachelors all the pots and pans out. You can't Cook on. They cannot cook on this. I'll get you something equally. nonstick think there'll be forever chemicals dot com which is a participant a setting up an advocacy campaign. And you'll be able to find out what products have PF P foss. Where are you can go to buy alternative products? These problems are ongoing. It's systematic we have to we have to have a political revolution of heart and spirit and family to to deal with these with these issues. The film had so many amazing stars including Anne Hathaway Victor Garber and end the literal towering. Tim Robbins Zotov. We all know I mean. The ongoing joke is that I'm tall. And my arms are long And Kerry is tiny and has little little hands eight. She his belly. Though short compared to Tim Robbins Person. who was shooting? It couldn't get us in the same frame. Yeah it was difficult. Yes yes. He is giant giant person. There's there's the hot gas well I hope people will percival become informed. I I think it's important to get away From these the use of these chemicals that are now in all of our bloodstreams of bad water bad air air affects the health of people regardless of their politics. This is an issue. That's much larger than than what's happening sitting right now. and WHO's in. WHO's in power right now? This has been happening for years title. That people knew what was happening with these toxic chemicals. I I would advise all parents to go see this one. I think we all want to use safe products. And this is a really I mean. It's really riveting. This story of just in every day guy trying to do the right thing and taking on a big corporation and trying to keep all of us safe. I remember at. Didn't the movie n saying that ninety nine percent of all humans and animals on Earth Ninety nine percent of all living all living things on earth including trees as you have the chemical have this chemical in them because of Dupont right And that's that's a horrifying statistic. Dark waters is out now nationwide so make sure you go check it out and enjoy adding new pots and pans to your holiday. wishlist seriously ceramic. Hey Kerry yes us. I have two hands Yeah you do. I wish I had more though. Because you know once you become a mom too are simply not enough Okay I see where you're going with. Thus I agree moms are serious multitasking machines so I had a dream that I had extra arms and I woke up and I thought to myself That is such a great idea. Matt is very helpful. But what I'm saying is I need more people to help out than just two extra arms plus think about how much more expensive it's GonNa maybe to get a manicure here. You and that's why Ashley and I have decided to do a series in partnership with huggies. That's called hug on heroes we asked. You are scary. Mommy's about stories where someone helped you bigger small astronaut and you sent in some of the most amazing stories they were so amazing and inspiring and made me feel all soft and gooey and gave me the fields. We chose a few of these stories to share with you. And we'll be interviewing one per episode to talk about when someone helped her today. We have a great story are featured Mama's Rachel who went shopping with her baby so so far so good right. Yeah until she locked her. He's in the car leaving her and her baby outside of Said car. Oh no what did she do. I I think we need to talk to Rachel and find out. Hi Rachel. Could you tell us your story. Please sure regular Mondays on days. You gotta go run an errand to a couple of random stuff so I had my little girl. Gosh she was probably or just when they sit up. I don't know four four or five months six. She was a big Nice Chevy so she was up early but she I'm coming out of the store and I might car is one of those. Were you can kind of your near the car. You can open up the back. You know naturally start putting things in their loading stuff into my trunk throw throw my wallet up into the Middle Feet and then I put on my stuffing and realized that I get on lock the car and we walked out and so I have to go in to get the keys so the trunk is open but the rest of the doors are locked. Yeah Yeah and at some point I realized that my daughter auditor exposed to the whole world. And I'm the complete opposite direction facing away from her and at any point someone could just come and grab grab her so your keys. Were completely out of retraite. So if I'm understanding this correctly I'm thinking like an suv kind of car right. Yeah and it has. We're there's that like you know there's the hatch that's the trunk and then the back seat so so it's in the middle of the back seat and you're trying to reach over the back seat from the drunk. Okay thank you for the visual got it. Oh yeah that's a good one. So then what happens so that what happens. They're just like panic. Think moments where you go. Well do I leave here and like Chan some Weirdo stealing her. Or do I get home. And my I found was also part of that little Ensemble that went to the middle seat. So it's not like I can call anyone at this point and then out of nowhere. I should've been a white horse. This tweet mom comes up with her. Little boy probably probably like two three years. He was walking and said. Do you want me to watch your baby for you Obviously been struggling quite obviously obviously but She came up and said Hey. Let me watch her while you while you get back into your car. It looks like you're struggling and it was like yes that would yeah me and I dove right in and I think probably lost the milk on the way but got my keys. Finally after about ten minutes of Struggle and got my beautiful baby home and without being kidnapped a win win day the struggle is real literally basically throughout all of these huggies stories. I have been like Am I a good person because I don't know if I'd do this for a lot of people. Oh uh-huh exactly yeah bless her heart she came up and Kinda shouted at these day. Think she knew I was just halfway in my car. I mean of course. We're making light of this this situation but locking yourself out when you're out in public with your very young baby is an ex dreamily stressful time. It's it's stressful to take your baby out whether you lock yourself out of your car or not young. Do you still think to this day. Do you still think about that stranger who helped you. Oh absolutely yeah because I I wish beyond you know all the panic I never asked for her name I never you know. Ah I thanked her but in a very like fast bummbly way because I was still trying to you know get my little baby in and no one on a daily basis. No one really comes up to you and asks you if you need help in a in a weird situation before you kind of feel that awkward like do they want a stranger approaching then eh but now that I've been in in those shoes where I relied on some strange woman coming up that I will probably never see again I couldn't have made it home without her that day. How do you think this is changed? Your view of Motherhood You know there's a lot of those one liners. I people spit out to you. When you're pregnant or you become a mom it's like you know? Take a Lotta net. You'll never sleep again over Blah but wanted days the days as long short sleep when the baby. Yeah all those good one one of the ones that people always said was you know takes a village to raise the baby and I I kind of was like my parents will always be there. And I've got three sisters and thorough is going to be there but I never expected that village to include a Random people in a parking lot smothers gotta stick together. Yeah and that's kind of I like what motherhood is you have to let things come Q.. Unexpectedly and then gives things unexpectedly. Motherhood is a sisterhood. That's right Yes it is so I know you said that you probably you Nev- you didn't get this woman's name and you most likely will never see her again but let's just say that maybe she's listening. What would you like to say to her right now? If I were to meet her here again Thank you so much for coming up and taking the chance that I was a normal person in in that I mean she also had her kid there so that takes a lot for to have a young one coming up someone else that you don't know absolutely that the volume you know and and not only that but she had given me like like we were saying earlier. She's given the confidence to go do that to someone else. I think that's the biggest. Yeah thank you so much for talking with US Rachel. This was a great story we were so you're welcome. It was so nice meeting ill and We we send you and the baby all of our love car very reliant on my neighborhood relying reliance in my neighborhood on rideshare car share services and I'll go to the grocery store which is not necessarily within walking distance distance to my house have to take the car back. Have the baby have the groceries and then I have stairs to go up to my house so I like get out of the car and I don't like what do I do my groceries. Awesome out leaving the kid is he hit her popsicles kit or POPs right. Well it's yeah it's like what do I do in this situation. Do I leave the kid at the top of the stairs even even at the bottom of the stairs do I bring it up and down everytime I bring groceries with me. It's honestly that is a very every time I've been in that situation which has been I don't L. Forty Times at this bleak. Your kid can walk now. I'm looking forward to when she can walk herself and I have my two extra hand as a huge help because now I just leave him at the top of the stairs. There's any tell him to sit on the doorway and watch Mama and that that's a big help like no. Don't go downstairs. NOPE nope there's a lot of that. I've have locked myself out of my apartment out of my car so many times. I mean the list goes on of what I have locked myself but with the baby. It's a whole other game I just just thinking about it stresses me out to know and thank goodness. That woman was there for Rachel honestly and let me tell you something you know what you and Rachel have in common. Oh boy he'll both have long arms that's all she got those keys. Maybe instead of extra ours we just need stretch arms me. That would be more useful for MOM. How about extra arms that are also stretchy? You always with a great idea you know what hug on John Ashley and hug on Rachel and hug onto all of you out there and just remember we moms are in this together and whenever you can offer an extra hand to among confession time Sh- passions. Well you know what time it has is confession time favorite part of the show carry. Do you WanNa go first today. So you know how Luna's birthday party was pretty recently. Yeah there yeah so so. We got a ton of presence and I wrote down. WHO's everybody gummy y'all beginning? Thank you cards eventually. Come on take tie now. I write handwritten. Thank you notes. I really do I did it. I first birthday all right. It's been a little busy We had another birthday party for one of her. Like like kid. Best Friends I mean. We're parents our friends. Our friends the next weekend and I accidentally re gifted the present she gave no. It was extremely stressful week with scary. Mommy staff and family stuff and so I didn't read can consult the list and and I re- gifted the gift she gave me the mom say anything. She did what she. She's a good friend so she was like so you could have. Six thousand people have never that you couldn't have picked another gift to Riga. He's like bass she's like think she said it so lovely. She's she's from anyway. That's how I would have said so. Lovely she's like well. I loved it so much that I got it for Luna so I I mean how classy is that. She's a class act. She is a class. Act I'm sue. I'm cringing so hard. That is amazing being looted. I'd so let me I'm not above. Gifting IRA gift. Why didn't they consult that list? That's so funny. That is like A. That is a confession that was good. Okay so my confession is we've been over that I can't tell left from right right. I mean I can but I really you think about it I I have to like you know. Do the fingers and all that stuff I think whatever controls that part of the brain also controls controls the part of the brain that allows you to look at an analogue clock and just instantly know what time it is. I also have trouble with that I it it takes me like awful minute to like read. A client sometimes say weird things like twenty five until eleven and he's like there's another way to say that and I'm like I is there sir. My brain doesn't work like that. I wonder if that's just like a create a creative life brains eight. Yeah because I really these are common things. I was taught them in school. My Mom said I failed. Whatever you learned that first grade again that that was the only thing I had like a failing mark on how to tell time you know? I'm not surprised you and I are so oh close because we have a lot of weird stupid similarities like that and now it's your turn scary mommy's to get a load off. Go to our confessions page and pour your heart Out Today as we do. Every week we read your confessions with a dramatized voice over. Who knows your confession might be on this week? Let's find out. There have been numerous occasions throughout my adult life when I thought to myself. I can't believe I shaved my legs for this. This I mean I agree true story my first date with late. I'M NOT GONNA go into it but I was not in the mood to the go-to it for all sorts of reasons and my mother called me and she's like you put on a dress and you shave your legs. How am I ever GonNa get a granddaughter if you will not Shave your legs and I did and the rest is history? Sometimes I threw my kids slime away but we'll spend twenty to thirty not minutes pretending to help them find it. Yeah I don't know I don't know where it went. Yeah I do that with like chocolate and candies. Handy's just like Oh we're could the candy be who knows and it's really like Mommy did it or always now. I feel like the kids always kind. I don't think so I don't trust you. 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Trendly Neighborhood Zeiter-Man 12/2: Cyber Monday, Van Halen, Dakota Johnson, Cinderblock, Frozen 2

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Trendly Neighborhood Zeiter-Man 12/2: Cyber Monday, Van Halen, Dakota Johnson, Cinderblock, Frozen 2

"Hello the Internet and welcome to your friendly neighborhood Zuyder man. Courtesy of Johnny Davis A. K.. Truly neighborhoods slow. You Demands Komo Tang clan up. I'm Jackie O'Brien that over. There is super producer. Honor Hosea joining us today. In place of miles of the phrase. Yeah I only known by his twitter handle was that is a miles out today. He's act back in the morrow. Yeah Good Gentlemen But we're still going to tell you what's trending today on this fine Cyber Monday and that is actually the top thing that's trending along with airports. Air Pods Cyber Monday. This also the number one thing on read it because There's something trending that is a strap that holds your air pods together right so making air pods pointless. Because they're just like well that's always keep losing them. Yeah and it's like yes. Well that's kind of choice. You take a risk when you spend one hundred fifty two to fifty dollars on these things a little pill things and it's almost asking you to become kind of like hyper vigilant about what you do with your belongings as you know I my partner. He left one of his air pods on the Ottoman. Yes we have Ottoman money. I am and the dog chewed one of them so he had to buy a new pair. And it's like you have to. These are very expensive. Little tiny pieces of basically forever items because again. You can't recycle them or throw them away. I know so. They're also like candy. Size yeah I always want to eat them or like swell album. That's why I compared them do a pill because I want to just like put them in my mouth and swallow them with a glass of water like millions. Yeah so yeah I I. If you're not a person who takes good care of your belongings. I'm sad to say but you should not by air pods. Just stick to the wired headphones. Yeah I feel like they've we've kind of had a a real tipping point As Malcolm Glad Willin Bill Simmons loved say But I think because they've released like version two point. Oh now they're actually breaking through because now there's like an old pair that's obsolete in the affordable so are are. The price is going down on those. They Muss child because like why they wouldn't sell a single other pair of well. That's not true. I think people one we live in a time of flex culture so flow with flex on each other like by getting the old ones know by getting the new ones. So why would you. What are you saying? Well I'm just saying they must have dropped the price of the old ones. Otherwise wouldn't be the same price of the new ones now. The new ones are two fifty old hold onto one fifty. Ok never mind yeah. Let's talk about van. Halen also trending because Billy Irish did did not know who they were and doesn't fucking need to. Yeah I'm sorry I was saying this to work head esteemed disagree with you on this. I don't give a shit in cool. Yeah Chuck Close. Sherman is like a huge van Halen fan and them's he's like a pop culture writer and he he called them. The most appropriately rated bandon existence like neither over or underrated. They're just they just voted for their hits and they were big big when they were big but nobody needs to. They didn't have like a huge lasting impact that I know of. I don't know that he said that. That might just be my take. But but I don't know I you know Van Halen look to me. It's like there's a certain type of older ban that really resonates with me like Pearl Jam or something like that. But that's because they created a style of being like Moore. Yeah like that's the thing we're whenever. Whenever I hear a Pearl Jam Song I will start making that noise along with the Song Van? halen yet didn't do that. Normal people and guess what. Now you don't matter because billy I wish doesn't remember you go by what Billy remembers in our official cultural conscience. It's Kinda like she's so famous that it's like well. I don't now man like if billy I always says you are nothing than you are nothing the thing that is definitely going to be lasting of Van. Halen is the Eddie Van Halen. Did the Guitar Solo. Hello from the beat it so so little known tribute but that Guitar Solo Shreds but that on their wiki from the Beatles Song as it's known most kids Eddie a common name for lead singers of old bands. Well he wasn't the lead singer. He was lead guitarist. Yes exactly A WHO gives a shit but yeah people are acting like this is the equivalent of when kids were all tweeting. Wait Titanic's INEX- based on a true story. Yeah that was like a big trend Harley days of twitter and that was upsetting I think but this no body needs no van Halen. Yeah I you know what mentally already moved. On from this story nobody knows knew that the Tulsa race massacre happened until watchmen came out. Let's worry about that. And not the van. halen thing Dakota Johnson. Why why she trending she Well basically she stood up to Ellen. Degeneres is crap if you will okay tell me the story because I that's what I heard. I heard it was like a feud between the two of them but then well so Dakota Johnson being the daughter of Don Johnson and Melanie Griffin and the stepdaughter of Antonio Banderas decided today well not today whenever it happened a few days ago that she will no longer be taking Ellen's weird shit on her show so she came on the show Ellen was like. How was your birthday party? I wasn't invited. Waited Dakota Johnsons like you can see in the moment where she has that thing where she like is like you were invited Ellen. You didn't come Allen's yeah I don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't invited anywhere. And she's like you can tell because she does that before everything. She says she's like you weren't invited last year. Because I didn't I think you would want to come this massively famous and like I've only met you on the show but this year I definitely invited you and you didn't come yeah. She's she was like no. I don't think that's true that's true. Let's let's ask somebody in like asks her producer producers. Like you were invited. You were out of town. She's like oh I was out of town right because I had that thing. Yes and classic investigative journalists twitter cages random people who have the time of their lives lives Figured out that it was the same weekend that she was at the cowboys. Game George Bush Bush Bush Bush she bushes. Oh that's right. I had that that thing whereas hanging out with a war criminal. So fuck off Ellen. I'm sorry these her because she literally says you harassed me so much last time when I didn't fight you because one we're not friends so why the fuck would I imagine hanging out with all your friends. I mean like Ellen's coming. Everyone will be like. Why did you invite Ellen? Degeneres to your party. Maybe that's just my era folk but I'd be like man what the fuck why'd you Ellen Ellen. The generous come in and be fake nice to everyone and then route two random people like no thank you and there's more stories kind of circulating this has given people an excuse to start tweeting and chatting about the fact that Ellen is mean. Yeah not a nice person. Yeah so known thing with an the industry that Ellen is somewhat evil And the fame and money has gone to her head and she is no longer with us folk on planet Earth so in response to this story somebody was like oh my gosh just the other day. I was going into the parking lot of the writers guild of America and a Somebody was walking into the building and dropped their parking ticket. And I you know they were very famous person. I won't say who they were But you can probably guess and I went up to return to them and they looked at me like I was the biggest creep in the world unlike walked away a fast. Well well I was trying to do them a favor. And everyone's like Oh ellen right Because you don't want her to. I Dunno blacklist you. Because she's a monster. Yeah we're blacklisted. Oh Yeah Yeah. We're working for the Ellen show Lil Bub Lil. BUB has passed long. Live Lil bub. This cinder block to our attention just to be clear. Little Bub is a cat. Oh Yeah Yeah and not a rapper. Who Does ZANEX? That's true rapper. That needs to be clarified. We'll bubbas the like really cute cat because it looks like a kitten But then it has a feature that it has its tongue sticking out of its mouth off. The little bug had dwarfism. Oh Yeah I believe. I think that's why it looked like a kitten which is weird because we we really like we like fetish. Is these pets. These little hats like grumpy cat who have like disabilities in the weirdest ways will be like make them an internet celebrity right so we were like well. WHO's left left now look who's the reigning number one cute cat because Lil Bub past grumpy cat passed and a Garfield is on his way out and this brought a cinderblock to our attention real quick car fields. Not Real check well well Yeah Cinder Block. Is that huge gray cat. That people have made famous for being fat. which again appreciate all this like? Well we're not making union guys. They're cats and they deserve respect your impression of that's the Internet a whole responding ending to cute cats. That's the Internet as a whole I was like. Oh you're like guys just a yes to cute cat. But let's not like you. You know the Garfield thing was by the way based on tweet but drew toothpaste to tweeted grumpy cat and Lil bobber dead. These come in threes Garfield is next so just wanted into Aikawa. Only after I called you out. It wasn't me his stupid joke anyway. All right little. Bub Cinderblock is the very very large cat. That like can't they keep trying to put him on water treadmills and he puts one paw on the treadmill. And I'm like just let go. This is what you do to get a cat enrichment activities and yes. I do have to spend a lot of time talking to my bed about this because I do too fat cats you put their food food in some sort of mechanism where they have to play with it in order to get the food out kind of gives them some exercise. Putting account of water. Treadmill is so wild to me. 'cause one cats hate water water and they're going to be like I'm not human doesn't to me as a thing I can do to lose way also. I don't care to lose weight. I'm a fat cat who uses my body as a pillow for myself. Yeah the assumption of about those video seems to be that this like some high tech animal factor animals like training facility and and it's probably just like a high-tech creative torture of animal facility. I don't know maybe there's science behind it. Of course I haven't looked it up because I can't with how my life goes. I don't have the time but that is so big that it might not be able to support his own way. I think that might be. I can't imagine why they would do it in water. I see that's the thing it's like. I feel like people are trying to create memes out of these animals right like truly like. Why can't we find other ways to get cinderblock to lose weight other than making it? Walk on water treadmill. Yeah it is working okay depaix however vert wow bt dubs producer. Daniel has pointed out that it is working. He lost I point eight pounds which child could in cat weight is a significant portion of his body weight and or should be a significant a portion of his body weight and but we'll gain it back once he's done so the creative tortures that this this Creative torture method factory are trying to convince us. I mean he's working. If it's working then I hope it makes cinderblock a lot healthier and we stop calling him Cinder Cinder Block cinderblock by the way was found in the house of a hoarder who had passed on and it just like you put quarter found dead in their house and then giant over fed enormous cat in the same sentence. You have to wonder was cinderblock. Luck feeding on the remains of their owner and turns out. I don't know the answer to that. So let your imagination fill. That's a fine mind thing it's like you raised your cat you your life into it and then you pass before them like why should he your. It almost feels like your cat is doing their duty to be like an I shall eat chew now right and give you a second list as energy for me to chase lasers frozen is also not really trending talk about it on tomorrow's episode that frozen to crush at the box office. It's trending in a general people. Keep talking about it and the office sense and Anna and I just learned. We both watched frozen one for the first time over the weekend and It was me for me. It was the first time I'd watched it sober for the first time ever ever. Yeah you had some you had some takes I you know I struggle with the movie because when I don't think that great I think I think kids are horrible movie review. I've got kids are stupid for liking that. Now I mean I I can see the appeal. It's like a bunch of songs as a dancing What is it snowman? which by the way Olaf probably the greatest movie but overall I I found also to be a bit of a cont very selfish on our dad in a weird dark way like there was some some true darkness that I didn't care for like you know I found I found also so deeply selfish? If like you don't just get to Boo Hoo because you get frozen hands or whatever your problem is which by the way not explained was she born with frozen situation and then just be like no. I'm I'm a free run off. It'd be like finally and then sing a song about being selfish like letting go and doing whatever you want when it's like you just froze at town and then you're like little sisters. Their your parents are dead like what are you doing letting go song that in the end is about letting your her selfish desires win over to live in an ice castle right okay right or the proverbial ice castle of Camphor that were you know what it is. Oh Yeah Yeah. China is frozen solid. Oh maybe wow yeah. That's actually if it is. She can do whatever she wants. That's tough that would be tough though. Yeah maybe that is the unspoken truth. She's like no. You don't understand like doc shed that would make I guess masturbation incredibly difficult which is why she's so pent up why she's like I'm just going to go to. This is Masol. That's why she has all this pent-up energy so it's just like let's true they're not fucking right. Well maybe you know how old they are ads. Ads Exist do showerheads exist at that time. Probably not no poor Elsa we the scene where the Jack. It's just a very strange trade. Her parents are like we'll be back in no time Darlene. We're just getting on this boat and then it's like it's it's a cut to the mall just being swallowed by a massive wave. I wish there was no edit goodbye to them and then it's just throw them out. Yeah that was also really dark moment whereas like wait. What yeah like? That was a really gnarly storm that they they were just sailing through yes. It was as scary as any storm in the perfect storm. And we're all like. Why are these kids so upset that their parents are going on a quick trip because they saw frozen and they're like no? I've seen this happen before as most Disney movies. The parents always die going on a trip or something. Yeah especially right after a pair after the kids are like. Oh don't go mom like I have separation anxiety from you and they're like don't don't worry we'll be right back within your parents always right before. Don't worry you're nannying Butler will take care of you will shit that has been in your friendly neighborhood. Zuyder man. This is fun. This has been fun. Having you on Sir producer on Hosea and just see now contractually really not obligated to work on this show. No you're doing this in your free time. You're not paying nope at all except opt in Lacroix. I don't drink mcroy Anna. Where can people find? 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Woman, Bond Woman - How Many?

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Woman, Bond Woman - How Many?

"In how many how many how many how many one-two-three five six nine Louis Armata I think I've talked about this before there was something about her that's young Jesse and she still on journey gambling so let's be normals or regulars or here I'm Jesse Jackson we have Bob I was really disappointed she was supposed to be a Texas fried mayor a couple of years ago and I was really looking forward to seeing her up against her got you and your and making his how many podcasts debut but you know you love him you cannot live without James Bond for at least a couple more episodes let's face it that Welles deep that is deep so not only that we want to have follow ups we decided all subject lyle did listen to our movies version so I from what I understand he had some hopper bottles to give bader terrible unions many on how many good teams detect cavs year because they've been lighting it up their basketball team was baseball basketball track so before we get into the Action Komo Com yeah I've seen him in other movies as the bad guy so I guess he's kind of typecast but even he was working for the you open up her spokes and bring in a ring yes bring in a subject matter expert and have him helpless along with this in problem based on the massive feedback in reaction also read comments podcast how many guest you're that you're gonNA guess personnel and double of seven is the number of listeners ah come on you know go I was actually in control impressed at some point you guys made that I thought you'd Never Kim Degrade Jones lyle jobs her he likes to get his goods mark bond episode we decide we're going back to the well again and we're going to talk Correo so very nice now why James Bond why where did this passion slash obsession come from one work octopus I have topic is going to be for bond girls something that is needed here she live somewhat of an expert at the college yeah I actually bought one of her she had written like Hollywood vampire novel written like get that signature and I really would've paid not one hundred bucks I would've paid a little bit of mind to get my picture taken she remarried to John Carpenter's she did this is why she was in multiple his movie really get home from the bars we would always pop in a bond film to see how many girls he slept with and we would tell them up every night you know we actual killing Rice Long Adrienne Bard bowed now why was she never girl she would have been a great boss curse win in Harlem and it hooked precedes the one where he's in India and he's playing that gambling games the the eighth of the fabric right and the bad guy in that one is actually the same guy from swamping I forgot that actor's name but goal so it could be playboy would have you know their bond girl issues and they have girls in there you know greatest hits videotape of all of the Chris Elliott bits from letter Mr One of these days you're gonNA wake up on the roller coaster Chris Elliott land and I'm GonNa be running the brake lever put in her lecture I'll be right here we have to sleep with James but I think the speaking part and certainly it helps if you know if relations yes we did you've included not only the main lawn grow but if there were old girls and then did we there were some that did uh-huh that is not the case it was I was very impressed we shared a lot of the same opinion while they get anything totally wrong issues definitely the fog yeah yeah the Orbin they're just as much time as I spent holding poster hand but some waitress that was in the background or something like that has has to have a mayport doesn't doesn't I don't think they necessarily I just wanted all of the Chris Elliott promoters audience member. Yeah see you of a list you've done love your seventy six one so Scott your guests okay say thirty five Okay Junior I think I wild before had you had a number in mind before he started doing the research note the Yeah Yeah See my college inventory was I would record David Letterman and then go back at it down the bits what did you count totally how many identify someone here that I honestly don't remember in there how many movies are at twenty org apart I still allow let's let's talk about the topic you have gas internist is going to be earth landers who played honey Ryder right schick not not the hot chicks but the shows and the titles and win their air and all that kind of crap we have a big very nice okay let's go through the list it's doing starting with start off with number one doctor TV the main take okay so what is your criteria for being a bonner because I had my own criteria being a girl like one of the prerequisites as she has to sleep Making your Michael and watching everything you do happy Valentine's Day Dave there are a couple of people that you think are conic von girls and I think hersal hander is absolutely first ballot hall of Fame Slippery Surface Book pointless to yes it is John Kerry I love your information you know we don't have a lot of time yummy. A bullet pointed list the big written database back then was like a trapper keeper full of exactly those stone we have so honey what's so funny about nothing name in my opinion so well but in a different movie he made it through or twilight you're keeping track of the hot and it was back when moneypenny was yeah that was good so k next there was other versions of moneypenny where she's like an older woman right so there's like shows one of the very best mongrels started the whole thing coming out of the from an Bikini was yeah I think I think four right the new one coming up twenty four and there's about at least three to four hundred seventy five going to say because I okay so can you give a unbiased or you're GonNa win number thinks we let them with six is what okay all right Penny I swear to I think I thought there was a lump wait he comes out it's a younger girl and all right so I would vote for no one else on because I don't remember the Tarot is not going to make the cut here Zena Marshall on right that's got to be I would never count yeah because you never have money penny right might be reckless if was she had speed Tayfun there I wanna say somewhere along movies moneypenny is the daughter of the previous or at Yana Romanova my friends call me Tanya my Gaughman James Bond you will look just like your your photograph you're one of the most beautiful girls have seen thank you but I think my mom is too big no the right size I mean it is one of the advantage again though I mean there's a whole reason alistair poster her I can't remember a poster of any other via trench do we have an opinion on hurried away without without imagery I can't reme- to reference the actress of later because I must Giessen I and you know I had forgotten that three blind mice starting and then Eric moneypenny really flirting a lot Taylor twenty years that's that's pretty interesting in the Daniel Craig version of money she's a younger woman again there is some be lower I'm GonNa Go Twenty K. Bob also let's say okay I'm GonNa go the headaches now sometimes the the bond girl ends up being the assassin right it until the end of Roger Moore Skin so she did all the that same actress I did not know whether she reciprocally good it was the hot Russian and kind of harsh arose the club you know and I just watched doctor no it happened to be on stars or something and because we talked about it I hit it on the art of the and I watched and she says Dr speaking around it could be I thought I could easily be wrong somebody out there doc killer pair of shoes yes he did so are you say yes to Tatyana there's anybody else for call her role concur on Dr No I guess the real question is was dude any of these other chicks outside of honey Ryder Count for this number of I can say without doubt almost all of them will be but I didn't remember so I would vote no on movies will be replace the bond girl so he's right they're always hot but yeah I'd say yes I'm GonNa Roll wasn't memorable enough for you to want to include Goldfinger honor Blackman playing the Great Pussy Galore who you must be stay with us she kind of gets drawn into that it doesn't help because the money goes a little spare that makes her actual appear in rice bears well I can see that now I don't I'm looking at images of her G. rated by the way he's got she she is a very attractive woman so yeah I admire your luck Mr Bond James Bond uh about is the movie now one of the best ones but in my opinion one house was Yellow Gonci I remember her at n specifically because again I was watching these a couple of weeks ago on stars I think part of it was remember how I movies are the words in the civilian life James Bond was trying to have a relationship with her so which I thought I did not remember them while he was having twenty one in the last lab guys are usually really low because overall these naked uh-huh and you either way now they're all in the sexual partners columns over this way orgy going on I want so according to a Kapadia and we know that it's never long Sylvia Trench Eunice case played his love interest in both he had a recurring role if he wants you incorporate earned this list yes no I don't Remember About The in Zorro and he connery's sixty five sixty six very refreshing yeah so yeah you say yes I'll say yes I have one check from this movie okay count on this let's move onto the next one going say lose me Sylvia Trench apparently is in this movie too he was a repeat character Cochran August courage miss so Jill masterson is anybody having opinion either way on that one she was one of the sisters chillier remember is Z. so the master since we're not going to count what about both veto bigelow one check pussy allure so right now we have three three movies did any of these other girls they pilots because Pussy Galore at the did I don't recall any of the chicks domino now he's a place once again one of the bit started to do that bit with the names honey Ryder kind too but I mean this is really Jill masterson or tilly masterson was one of the girls that was killed by flying hat Sylvia trench I mean there for the best okay safer that park right there on the bracelet on your ankle so what shopping likes you've got to get to my teeth. The redundancy redundancy very attractive Brunette I think one of the first times right but I didn't remember I had to look at her and so I say no zero Martine Beswick so we ended up Paul's thunderball the islands the pilots are teen of do we know that the masterson girls were at the very beginning of the movie one of stuck around with James for most of the now from Russia with love it just didn't have the the other day you said he was a sophomore slump yes I thought it was a second we're slow and I think you say no bob it sounds like you remember Yeah Count Domino but I'm not gonNA use an exemption on if you guys have some good when I see you again or Patricia Pat Veering to remember all Kaplan apparently was a sacrificial lamb yup none of these names thunderball I know there's losing her being inserted right now okay so let's move on to you only lived white funds it's a small island perhaps we have together my dear uncooperative domino how do you know my friends call me Domino uh-huh okay so you're yes on touchy on it everybody else seems to be giving talks so another bid name Kissy Suzuki sounds a car stuck with him throughout the entire there was injured can that's what he supposedly gets assassinated right but he's with some chick at that point I was let's see the lower so very nice so thunderball that's the one jet packs right under boy underwater that one shooter a belief so actually no she made it till the end she was very there was somebody from Japan ores definitely yes right Allie came along and honor Blackman she's up along awardee so they've kinda started reversing feels a little bit and making von shake in the more recent movies at least from eighties nineties two thousand on more check whatever their tougher they fight they use guns and stuff as well as tune in a row were nominated okay but Okay so goldfinger her yeah now I do remember is she the one that was helping him when he got shot folding bed it does come to vote the whole underwater battle sequence when they're shooting the spears at each other with actually pretty entertaining that's sad when I went back in anyone beautiful women but I think that they're putting the girls in a lot stronger roles yes opposed to being just kind of along for the ride yeah just the cute remember you're not very passionate and just want Scott known so diagnosing no what about feeling Volpi enough for for it being a one timer appearance of bond actor that didn't get a recurring bit that's one of the highest rated on movies yeah I don't remember it enough to okay so none of these women were memorable meal flavor that's GonNa call if you think about how were there on the beach and he's driving sports car on the beach burning out Doodo donuts you hear tires screeching suicide pieces about Nancy Nancy Nancy the setup right this time she's a Japanese sis secret information decider whatever that stands for aw but they'll never find us not remember her priority has to go bigger name to try and give him some equality there yeah I think what I would say what they're doing is they're going I can't even space Atlanta conic bond girl is and every frigging movie let's face it what do we do we watch for WHO's good on the budget and here we are I can't even remember thank you Golden Chick exceed the poster I count them so really nicer said a special effects expert every every bullet ricochets Diana Rigg obviously I yeah I agree so outside of the rig do any of these other names sand up to you Ruby Bartlett she was in the Allergy Clinic as in research she died for the movie was released so she never really wow okay the next movie diamonds are forever this is one of Scott's all time favorite ars out of all the connery ones this was my favorite and I don't remember sea now that is an issue so because this is one of your favorites what I get up to who in the welcome to a new fix it in post how many podcasts or should I say let's as he told us in the last how many about von Jill say John was made the entire this is vegas well if I can say it has it all I love the movie it's got everything in it it just didn't have a James Bond renew yeah the only thing I did not like about the movies if you watch the city we'll get one in this next year on Her Majesty's secret service that's the Lazenby one right yes like towels or some ski resort incidentally onto suppose I would kill you for thrill I can think of something more sociable to yeah and game of thrones and the only why have you say that that goes to show that the early on movies they were concentrating so much on bond that they weren't making the von Chick in cards from his Tarot gets all right from Russia. We'll talk to you telly savalas attracted the nurse Ratchet undergraduate I did find out through some surprises contestant on I'll take the shorter Vinicio is firm up shake la the lady that ran the clinic Cason was one of the one of the ones that got dipped in gold and don't let the bed all right yes that movie and see biggest back in the early saw back whatever's cool so the entire things on free ah zip-line Street so you're definitely yes absolutely yes still say John Tiffany case definitely distinctive I was born there on the first floor while my mother was looking for a wedding ring. Hello my name's Bob James Bob I know who you are what you are and why you would come they were like personal bodyguards so there is another shake laugh named makes it Oh yes I will tell you solitaire one of these best fun women like Queen on the Road King Miss Solitaire doc but she wasn't really she was more she had a enroll right decided okay ah these are cooling it's marvelous absolutely marvelous just try making something like that which is the best bond that's the one where they're in New Orleans the joke the boonies at the best song got the Best Fun Kabila indepth whenever he gets blown up like a below yes water against so obviously the first guy let on in this movie is going to be producers yourself at the Casino air whenever connery after hearing her name says Oh you must be named after your father ah it doesn't have the best seller list here Miss Caruso played by Madeline Smith nobody really remembers her right Rosie Card made a mistake will not succeed bobby did you say that she was number one for me that was when she was at her sweetest and cleaners the medicine but this was like seventy three so she was pretty young at that time I'm looking at pictures of setting at time still holds up yeah hi I'm plenty but of course you are living the next one the man with the golden gun that's a tattoo yes he Christopher Lee makes that airplane out of the AMC Pacer so in that one Andrea Anders played by Maude Adams Good afternoon I'm glad for your second wasn't fun Cleveland fell so I guess the only thing we can kind of debate or the other names on this this Bambi thumper those are like us for all be carved Gloria Rosen called was agent that was helping him and inflict on of a coup limit why team put in a cooler nut kid in a cooler actually that will be as very shaky were truly villains or were they bodyguards of of what was his name we're giving Willard why Willard white yes or they were they really his bodyguards or were the at your hands up and get out of here keep on walking nuns my question is that another first ballot use even though it has the wheels off nece drink may or may I call you triple X. so you know why you made quite an impression so that was a priest was Geoffrey holder the guy from the seven up commercial all grown up of having long Adams played in multiple bond movies as different characters that's always very ten years apart so even though that happened water fist always take sean system she's an acquired taste I can see I like her but she's a little usually I tend to like brunettes lower so that one obviously has a no-brainer balloted Barbara goes while I'm better yes the sentence Jessie are you in on Bob you're young she's definitely mem- I guess saying I never thought she was yes good night James Address goodnight and I could get it in a bikini concealed weapons shields Dover okay though to for that yes next up the spy who loved me you just found her woman you powers have observation do you credit Mr Ban of jaws you Caroline Munro she probably boy all-time Seventies Carol Monroe was still remember seeing the movie she's shoes radio have a copy on the rocks for the gentleman vodka Martini shaken not stirred touche her sister is name doctor can I help you yes my name is Bond James Bond I'm looking for good as far shooter all you can count good for you and you can count on me waiting for you in the parking lot cajoles real Walter Buddy Parker is married to geor chairs and so in addition of there's two other names on this list I was thinking more more wholesome but she's very sexy in this she's quite the Hawk all right so moving on connective have you do this is my wife I have three my assistant holiday whether the notion a marine biologist is is it looks like he's attempting reentry God watch doing I didn't even get character names avenue girl in off campus so obviously probably don't count what about Naomi Okay so you're yes jesse nights aw no does so while you have any strong opinions about Naomi never on holiday crashed such sloppy limes he was in the golden voyage of Sindbad Harry House Movie We're GonNa Count on Adams married good night with another big name h is so why abs never thought she so in addition to Hollywood had she's account just because of the name alone how hot to no one more walk horry do four and he was the girl by the dogs at the beginning of the most hyphen chicks fun fact for you bumper played by parks was married first African American Okay next up for your eyes only so this is the one that had a great great things on in this too bad that they didn't put she take back in the seventy s so for now we're going to save Barbara Bach is the only from that movie so yeah looking into moon raker another shake lap uh-huh I think he's attempting reinsurer in addition Hollywood had we have Manuela James Oh east in in the movie is she is odd to yes she gets a plot exemption absolutely okay so this one countess Lizl von Schoff you know Mr Stanley yes I'm Naomi was the strong accent that was run over on the beach the middle part of the movie that was Pierce Brosnan's as we all know Jesse is a huge huge you she is she's looked great and he is absolutely is on my list when she greatness the second appearance because he was in the spy who loved me jaws after the fall from space I ain't got her on so let's look at some of the GMC she didn't know that he had out with spatial Graham a picture of his son and Bruce his son is like has got a job as an assistant to the production company the Orion okay I would say she was kind of plane she did not yeah I could see I had a cheese spoke to one of our classes in college oh cool compressor that was all the Good Hope in zero gravity it up and the shake last moment at the end of that movie was when they're watching the video and one of the never done a James Bond Harry Potter Song in the like now we don't want to that does freeze works screening so he's like my lifelong friend you know my son is now working for one of my longtime friends it sounds like is going to be the only one she got she got a promotion to Corporal Hostess Troyer with actually in this movie about private jets at Oblong beauty any opinions either way on the other every time I say what is the point of this girl being in this movie I mean why is the villain bankrolling her you know what's the point and you've never it's almost like they wanted to make James Bond funeral by having this teenager like him just to make him uncomfortable throughout yes survived to terrorize shooter mcnabb and that's Dan of Remington Steele recently because you don't always speak same Pierce Rothen posted on his answer I don't know exactly she's on the Ice Castle yes I said I've seen that movie so many times you like me why I think you're wonderful be but I don't think your uncle Ari approve thinks I'm still a virgin you get your clothes on Mr King and I to be you target for tonight so what about maca maca was girl that stole the ferry excrete okay so we're only gonNA have one for your eyes only that's move into octopussy octopussy Maud Adams again slaves interesting Roger Moore movies supposedly I didn't think it was terrible to give a little support once again and I keep thinking is was there something edited out you know this they're part of this that we're not seeing because they could have easily taken all her parts out of that movie I Houston she came indication's class so did you let her know her face and you really didn't hold up yeah old villain of the canal cons guards chosing surprising agility for the martial arts during filming of the scene The it was that is Pierce Brosnan's she died after filming she's the grew he was traveling but I don't think instead the I I would like in honor Pierce to Count Cassandra a second okay you so Molina have walk Carole Bouquet growth yes revoked the pussy is the Roger Moore worrying that Circus Guard like he had a club yeah you know and I think that's just not James Bond Volta she was she comes to betray a bad guys actor tracks what they was the accident leave which is never wrong she was cast in probably her best on row as mandated octopussy which features a memorable scene in which Magna beats upset A different character very wheels off but you are definitely a yes yes you got to counter the movie's name the movie save after you with wrong suffered broken toes allow now she waved warns yourself waiver forms the film came in right I wonder when you might derive all the mysterious helped Muslim Games on W. seven licence they they went in and they drew like little black hot pants on her lifting Bradley stupid little early Hamble uh-huh that's my little octa person they were they were so bits and we have a couple of people that we make here let's start with honey Roberts who was the main site fix sutton greatness oh by the way he sees her tattoo it's a little octopus right what does that that's awesome that's exactly give my curious coasters at that particular one because I remember this story on it was I guess this was before thongs or something but they had the model put on the underwear backwards uh-huh say octopussy is one of the lower rated of the James Bond movie and it's like recognize as we matinee played by Grace Jones ability standpoint alone the artist remember that would be censored in front of the idea I don't remember anybody going we can't call it octopussy were that would be smaller in the back at so show a lot more cheap well a lot of newspapers didn't like that especially and it was a star telegram because that's the way I looked up back then that is enough for me I'm GonNa she has an exotic look I find attractive to see where it shocked she won't remember Okay and that was one of the Roger Moore's the James Bond movie the poster had the rear view of girl she's standing in the blonde figure skating girl Yeah Ali's Johnson or something right yeah error predating the big female action heroines of the box office they're saying that she was kind of a translator that you gotta fight as opposed to does that mean you're not saying the night I was hoping we spend the evening together now she'll be all alone I she is the race Jones she yes she she made the playoffs she was she would kill you seconds to go there because you know back in the old days when you would look in the paper to see what was showing in the theaters they would have the small pictures of you know the the the job thanks you're holding a crossbow which one was that for your for Your Eyes Oh okay I thought I remember that one. The picture itself got censored in newspaper and then later have billboards posters advocacy's very shocking Shochu Line I don't think she was very good in rural just going to look at it's very very split second in the film you can see I looking at doing research of Fiona Fullerton and she is really cute she's very checkered she hasn't yes I remember the movie very attractive but what I remember her from was Charlie Sheen's agent and major league too and have a long Su Su any strong opinions on autopsy yes she's rushing boo junior yeah no work needed so whole over so you WanNa give a yes okay so bits two names yes do you remember being really supplies they could name the Big Pussy Galore in Oh yeah that just looked like she could just break you so let's look at some of Dolph Lundgren for a while like real would charlie's angels two master she was great awesome well see I'm giving view USA Yes for I guess just because the movie is probably my favorite played by Christina wait warn does anybody else for Paul Maggot the point is you know we knew he was older than Sean Connery when he took over the park so you know how many years later is this okay let's and this was one of the first get down in there at the or strack yeah watch you'll see somebody come over here didn't say what part of the state do you come from this now I didn't I suppose you were traveled up you'll Healy Cup leaves in twenty minutes the deal let's yet so people kill obviously they were pandering to the right audience was by Marion Diablo who the trunk what we stuck I arranged could for them to bring it back you know read that one actually use a hotline and by the way do you feel number one song drain gets you yeah I think so did he was he was in the movie you may not remember this he only had like five seconds Chris Jones may picks up the Russian KGB title night only yes call it octopus or something okay so sorry onto a youtube kill the two nights ago and I was running sheep in I don't remember off she was the main yes she is very attractive I did not know that but based on that you think they did maybe they didn't know it was going to be Roger Morris last one but let's face it Roger Morris was burning kind of low at one now here's a couple of shake lap names Jedi flex played by Allison Ah from bond after a sexual encounter course escaped somehow she her shoes one of the Timothy these two names on here that I do not recall Linda Levi to tell Taylor and terra milivoy MHM and the energy of the last crusade the German who was with her Harrison Ford sad she's the blonde German I just watched that sorry I'm almost like yeah okay so pantyhose shake last post knowing you're only too busy I can think of how we would beat in case Mr K. started home there is no Mr Case T. for Tiffany Ativan so moving onto the next movie I'm going to be a beat on my has something written so the living daylights is the next movie absorb out so you have to break Batat yes I'm going to give free the other main woman here is usability to just various the Aba you're yellow her she and her sister your sister is the hot chick the whole I I do want to give her a whole book opinions coming in June we're going to say yes on your Roberts we're going to say yes to hold on a play by Fiona Fullerton and we want to give a guess Jenny came out strong and took the same year field work wow so the wonder years sister Kevin's sister how you're not talking about not when you go out with David Schwimmer at the end of the series he was yeah people remember him in that the very end you got that okay mom knows there's only two of us right way winning I have noticed on your list lyle I don't see any bond girls from the Casino Royale Movie The original Casino Royale movie so at she married Richard Year there's a couple of points where he Sudan he's about the same over worse you got it okay so you're yester- Mariam just FOB why we can't bought out there were ever car we we really count that one as upon move because believe we talked about it but it's uh-huh offer she's with me nobody's asking me keep your hands on the tape yes she was she was like definitely just being a bond girl does not guarantee later out now that you think verse Landers Jane It's not considered to be one of the things I mean not that followed the plots books without really didn't follow the plot again a lot of these actresses were popular in France exactly Maude Adams wasn't she was not no-name when she came in you know all right a professional he used to work here I am I going to win or lose lose but not much that one had no hot chicks all it did it did but unfortunately copiers oh licensed hill always beat me down that stupid sped British spelling of license there needs to have S. so you're you're being we're instruction she's got this low cut and it's cold you know and and and he couple of times you know has her come over to the table Lori lull she was last seen newry double va don't I know you from somewhere weighing 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EP5: Frozen

Citizen Critic

44:54 min | 5 months ago

EP5: Frozen

"It's women's history month and there's no better way to celebrate than by hearing from amazing women who are making history and changing the world for the better learn from leaders like Tory Burch Madeleine Albright Arianna Huffington Katy Kirk Valerie. Jarrett and more listened to Seneca women conversations on power and purpose on the iheartradio APP. Wherever you get your podcasts. Citizen critic is a production of iheartradio and double Elvis. It was insanely annoying at bay for the Three D. And gone there with my five year old nephew. We had to leave why he was complaining that there were too many songs even him even him even five year old little boy. He's a Shit uh-huh On this episode of citizen Critic Fox News misunderstands the basic plot. Points of Disney's frozen. The mayor of the FRO zone stops by to discuss his campaign pledge to polish the monarchy and we find out way too much about what men are saying regarding the subtle aggressions hidden supposedly feel good animated children's films. Don't hold it back anymore. This is citizen critic citizens critic and thank you for joining us for another episode of citizen critic. I'm Scott Tannen bits. And I'm Greg Calmly and today we're bringing out of our somewhat predictable selection of classic films to review a review of the two thousand Thirteen Disney movie frozen classic a blockbuster instant classic it was an instant classic opponents with me. I I saw the trailer for frozen. I took my nephew up. Been we're in western New York and I took him to see. Some animated cartoon camera was but I remember. He was far too young to go to see a full length feature film but the the trailer for frozen came on and it was Olaf Song. Yeah as like summer looks phenomenal and that was just that was the entire trailer was just that song and I found myself literally smiling as big as I could possibly about like. It's getting dark and the theater because I was sitting on the edge of my seat of my hands. Clap together says giants. I was very excited for this move. Yeah the life of the whole thing was delighted. You recently book was recent episode of this. Podcast YOURSELF TO EXIST. A net quote in the frozen frozen. Would you care to elaborate on it a lot frozen for me is I? Don't have any kids but I have a lot of friends who have kids and since it's come out all of the video like the social media videos of like all little girls and boys frozen stuff like singing let it go. Yeah just the best thing that in like videos or the the only good thing the Internet has to offer. I just watched today. Oh talk about frozen. So yeah you know. It's one of those movies. I think I know in and out but there are details. It is like an onion my friend. Something new every time every time. There's gotta be some frozen conspiracy theories like shining. I mean I will tell you in doing research for this. I walked pretty dark rooms on the Internet in which I just had to stop and be like. Oh take step back. Sorry just back back out of the chat room because people get serious about princesses really. Yeah like in a weird in a very weird. I think you're already on a list. And he was too late. One hundred percents guy for that chat. Room a hundred. Who's the hottest Princess Chat Room and not a forum? Aol Chat Room from twenty years ago. Whatever now granted I get a little over my skis and my enthusiasm by declaring I exist in frozen. I'm not judging. You simply your defensive. Not Not just in the frozen. You'll never bothered me anyway. I enjoyed it. I think it's funny. It's very funny. There's some troubling parts of that movie. It is yet another Disney movie where the parents die parents die. That's part of the thing I mean as a parent. You must take that. I would argue that. Those girls are better off without those parents though. We're not very good parents. Air Father was a monster. He literally tells her. Don't feel yeah. Stay in your room. Hide Yourself Away in fairness my dad my sister the same thing. We call that overprotected. Well she had that hunch. We lanced it. It was a lie. Poma anyone that wants to talk to people and how come on it wasn't it's not just like you know. Try to control your emotions. It's don't feel don't feel yeah eight ten years later. She's still feeling yeah she's like don't feel. L. I had the same conversation with myself after a really bad breakup. Song don't feel conceal. Don't feel yeah. The thing is that as a result of that this other little girl on on you know has an entire childhood yeah apparently also sequestered in the castle. Well NOT SEQUESTER. Just must play with her sister. By all indications she is not in touch with other human beings apart from the servers. It's true other human beings. God this is the service at Greg. I know what I said faceless grunts and they never they never interact you know. It's like no Norwegian aristocracy is different. I think he's supposed to be Norway supposed to be Norway. That's what I find also in my Because it's Hans Christian extensive research into fjords fewer. That's Norway are fjords in the in the movie. Yeah that's a fewer that thereon. She freezes the FJORD FJORD versus furry. I'll make say diet. I still gotTa Pick Ferrari Ferrari of course being a body of water for. That's interesting. I never give it too much. Thought but She is locked up in that castle to. She's she's sings the whole song about having no contact with anybody. It's do wanNA build a snowman. Do you want to build a? It's a great thing. And it's heartbreaking. It is heartbreaking. You know I'd never see you anymore. Yeah do you want to be snow? Man? I'll do whatever you want so lonely. It's great great frozen. I mean I it's outside of our wheelhouse and I say it is it is I forgot about your part. Time residents in the frozen fucking mayor of the frozen. That's not. That's the saddest thing I've ever. That's not as you. Just keep topping yourself the mayor. The good wasn't bad enough in the frozen radio. I'm not allowed to honorary or duly elected. I run a super PAC. And you know. Not Too. Many middle aged childless forty-year-old looking to become mayor of the frozen gus auto business frozen needs new streets our lines. We gotta fix these bottles of freezing unfreezing destroying the streets surrounding the straits. Yeah you you run on a campaign about lying Elsa but Mr Mayor. She's our queen. She's destroying rates. Oh God how about a winter and then not a winter? How about that about melted slower? I don't want out to salt. Were causing tremendous damage to us. Lash freezing is destroying our infrastructure platform. If you'll have me a tunnel no but this guy come as creepy for ninety nine percent of the population. But it's a good place like an outsider. I Dunno pretty happy with the royal situation. Let's stick with our monarchy for let's Go to our feature presentation this week. Yeah let's charge right in a review of frozen the ORIG- Greg. You found a review. I did oh from Fox News Fox News I would think where else would you get your news about princesses than shocks news? Yeah yeah they have their pulse leggy blonde their fingers on the pulse of what little girls want. This is a review by Justin. Craig called New Disney. Musical comes up cold. Oh Justin Craig who I actually believe. Might BE SEAN. Hannity does depend on depend. I think it's an well. He wouldn't like that. That's that's that's freedom for new Disney musical comes up cold. I assume this was at the At the time of the release thousand Thirteen Disney animation attempts to emulate their classic animated musicals with frozen an adaptation of Hans Christian. Andersen's the snow queen but comes up a little well Cole. I didn't see I mean you can't in the first sentence already start with the cliches little cold. The Snow Queen is Prime Real Estate for Disney adaptation and this musical features a few unexpected plot twists but is dimmed by lack luster humor and a rush structure on not as cohesive as previous Disney films. Could not be more wrong. It's got a lot of humor. Olaf Song Nola. Olaf is funny a hundred percent. He's finding throughout however frozen does modernize the Disney princess meam by turning the vulnerable princess and Prince Charming story on its head. Oh you don't say All the Stereo tapes are here but frozen puts them on ice stop and you don't have to Aberdeen. Doesn't have to be a frozen thing. Oh that's a frozen pond. Rather than focusing on a princess who can only be saved by a prince. The film tackles different type of love. The power of sisterly bond Yep He's got it that's right he's got it. He read the he read the jacket. Actually don't cliche though the Disney princess. I've dead parents to be rescued by the Prince. I think that's what he's talking about right. I guess maybe I mean that's the the old classic Disney it is Cinderella. Yeah Oh the originals. Kinda boring sleeping beauty. She was great she was just like. I'm going to be in a movie. I'm going to sleep there ninety percent like and then the little girl her. Yeah really bad I mean I live role models which I could get that much sleep. You kidding me I mean I haven't watched the main character really is Melissa sent lifts. She's the she's the. Yeah the draw with that. Those great horns yeah. She's bad us. Yeah Melissa. I haven't seen any of those malicious movies though Why have been something? This is not working out. I mean I just watch a lot. I'll watch them. They're great what's the what's the story it. Well it's like she wasn't always the evil person was in the portrayed in the sleeping beauty. I think it was like yeah. It was maybe a misunderstanding of why sleeping beauty was sleeping. A misunderstanding thing. That might have had a misogynist sounds like Milivoje Santa's gasoline all saw. What Happened Myth Connection? The instigating event in sleeping beauty is that Melissa sent is not invited to the Christening or whatever it is yeah right yeah of sleeping beauty and all hell breaks loose. Yeah she overreact. I well I mean. I've overreacted to not getting into a burden. But we digress. Yes Elsa and Ana our sisters gifted with magical ability to create and manipulate ice. That'S UNTRUE. No. That is untrue sir. I am going to ask you to vacate the frozen because you didn't even bother to in banished dow from the frozen. I bet she can make up for it but I mean at least understand. The basic premise of the movie for that can't make up for thinking that for watching this whole movie and Writing Review about thinking that ANA has maggio powers. Yeah no that's not. How do you go through that whole movie concession? As young girls they innocently used their magic to play games. Justin no Sir until an accident almost killed on a like wonder if even watched that part You probably did. This really. Sounds like he's regurgitating. What it says on the back of. Yeah Yeah I still think. He's on a treadmill. Kinda watching and listening to something else on that vote. Yeah I saw. A snowflake component fingertip to save young ANA. A pack of trolls removes her magic and memories by no doesn't even remove her memories. No use that specific at specific memory memory about her magic her sisters sisters madge. Don't fall into the conspiracy. Moves her magic no his understanding of the movie flawed from the foundation from the fraud from. Jump Elsa though is confined to a life of solitude to protect herself and her family from her reckless powers. That's true a decision that keeps her from seeing on a for many years. So THAT'S A. That's a question that I have. It's like I can't imagine that she didn't see her at all by me but that is not clear. It's the way it's torture. It does seem like she doesn't see her a slide. The tray of food through the door situation. Yeah Yeah. She's in prison well. Yeah Oh my God. We're them gloves. Don't feel do not feel conceal. Don't feel I actually had. That's tramp stamp that I have the other part of it that it's like it's a rhyme. It's like her father's like so you remember. Yeah Yeah don't please can use put the gloves on conceal. And she's like don't feel got it got it. Got It two years later during her coronation also learns that ANA is engaged to a handsome prince. She only met minutes before. Wow that was more than minutes. It was several is probably probably actually had met hours before there was hours before I met out on the in the boat. Oh that's great too. We finish each other's sandwiches. Funny it's a good so it's a great stuff was that one call. Love is an open door. Loves an open door. That's a great salads in the stream that would have been great phenomenal islands in the highlands and the frozen Strait islands. Fjord you're on it here. That's the the only song part of this movie that I don't like is where it's not really a song but Elsa and Anna are singing to each other. I'm not into the right right. That's why I don't like music like somebody making fun of Musical. Right yes like. I don't like musicals. Hard stop with like human being like humans read. I prefer them with androids. I've ever the Guy Detroit's only hall of Presidents. That's my favorite music for guard dude. I can't if it's like you know people just breaking that. Elton John Movie. I can't do it No ELSA LEARNS THAT ANA is engaged to a handsome prince. She only met minutes before prompting her powers go haywire and accidentally turn the entire kingdom into land of ice and snow. Yeah Dundar on. Dundar comes on the Leonard Ice and snow from Horrendo- with the Kingdom. Now decrying her monster scared and embarrassed. Elsa flees into the mountains to live in her magical ice castle I wish. She embarrassed to terrify scared. Yeah with her. Forgotten past rushing back no She remembered the whole time on. Ana She with her forgotten past rushing back on a joined by OLAF A dopey but lovable larger than life snowman and Alice take a piece by piece here with her forgotten past rushing back ana no she doesn't Chisholm. Remember memory doesn't come back. Yeah memories gone. Yeah the took it. Ana joined by. Olaf a dopey but lovable larger than life snowman. Icl's men no Olaf No. He's not one not larger than he is quite small small. He's a little slow man and he's not a nice salesman. No that's Kristal KRISTOF. Thank you very much. That is forget that there was a love interest. I don't think he watched the movie. Thanks so I'm going to go back to. He was on a treadmill with one of those stupid phone. Like totally multitasking. Yep ON ONE. Screen stocks was frozen and he was talking to Jared Kushner cush. Kush GO GOPHER. Kush watching a movie. Bob Says it's magical sisters read about drew the short story. Rogers made me write about this fucking movie. They venture to bring Elsa back home. That's true that's the one thing he got right. Also that Olaf is dopey but lovable and is a snowman. Yeah the biggest assets to any classic Disney musical are the songs and the tunes in frozen just happened to be the weakest link. I think you've been proven wrong sir. It had to have been proved wrong by the time he wrote. This reviewing let it go was a monster. Hit still is man making this attempt to return to the Glory Days of the Little Mermaid and Aladdin. An arduous frigid journey. I couldn't tell you one song from the Little Mermaid and I remember one or two from that I don't like the Little Mermaid. It's I guess troubling story as well then in that one Arielle literally gives up her voice so that she can be with the man so that she can be more like the man crush on. It couldn't be more on the nose. Give up your voice. Yeah I bet Fox News loved that. Oh Yeah family. Friendly classic finely perfect for girls of today finally a tale that girls can emulate power ballad after power ballad could have provided Broadway superstar. Adina Menzel with a major platform had they been memorable against aw Phil Collins. Reo speedwagon. That's what he wants. Our speedwagon should have written a song some feeling anymore either. Is THE TARA ERA CHICAGO? Come on Yeah. Come on that guy come on. You're the inspiration. Beth power ballad after power ballads could have provided too bad. This movie didn't work out for Denzel. Every rose has its thorn yet. Nobody knows who she is. Nobody thinks she has a good voice anymore. No memorable song. Perhaps those days are gone for good but hopefully not thank God. You must be relieved. He sounds really worried. Yeah perhaps really really bothered. Hopefully not well it turns out not wearing frozen will certainly appeal to many children especially young girls in princess mode. Yeah that is exactly the target audience serve but unfortunately due to clunky. Basing and lackluster songs will have to keep on waiting for a new Disney class. Oh Damn it. This movie broke all Disney records. Yet citizen critic Time Greg. This one is a review by a user on. Imdb of the same film. Frozen the ORIG- frozen orig- Pro Ofra. Did you watch frozen to overthrow over? this one out of ten stars. The name of this user who wrote this review is what men are saying. Please tell me as a man. I missed last week's meeting so here to tell you what men are saying. Just engaged carriers. We had a core. What hermens saying about the child's film frozen? Once again we sit through another politically correct contrived. Work that Hollywood and it's biased. Writers produced these days as comedy and amusement. Did I read the title of this another bashing denigrating and humiliating men and boys. I did not remember that right. That is yeah yeah might have buried the definition of burying. Yeah really is humiliating. Men and boys. This is what matters is him. I didn't feel humiliated by frozen at all. I generally feel humiliated some baseline so I can't differentiate so would argue. I should feel humiliated over. Some of the opinions expressed by. I literally don't know Shit. I got it all out of my system in my twenties. Saw behind me eventually scabs. Oh that part of your brain just scabs. This is what men are saying. This is real this kind of confessional style denigrating men and boys denigrating and humiliating pulling their pants down and pointing humiliates. Just saying look. Look everybody laugh okay. Well let's see. This is what men are saying. Let's see why he comes out. Let's say this. He comes out a gun on each hip hip anymore. They are firing from inside. Is the first thing you know the about him. Coming our bullets flying. He's is gun fire through his own front door to come on. Bring it down to a simmer. He's he's really comes into a rolling boil absolutely once again. We have the females at the four that in itself. I do not have a problem with signs. I might let me throw my hands. You know what what men are saying. I don't believe you for is fine for girls can speak. Girls have a voice to allegedly. What does stand out in this? Entire piece of sexist male bashing indoctrinating piece of work so getting bashed. Y- you see you cook. You don't even know it. That's humiliating for you Indoctrinating piece of work is the endless unrelenting quote male bashing there's no male bashing is there? It's endless mixing relenting my indoctrinated do. I don't even see it. No there's good men in Batman on Lincoln the real world where the only good bat. It's true This has got to be the worst so far. If this attitude increases any further why do they bother writing in any male characters at all because all they do is hold them up to ridicule abuse parentheses the Princess Max a male just for fun in the hell just about every action undertaken by any male in the obnoxious animation is loaded? No flooded with endless. Bumbling and incompetent behavior they could only ever be generated by a staff of writers who have determined and specifically designated that entire movie to display and promote it. I didn't realize once through that sense of mental illness in paragraph form. Hey what men are saying. Wow I feel bad. I should've sent that postcard back in because I definitely what are you saying? Well Hey what. What did he say about frozen and answer it? This guy's spokesman I didn't even I didn't see that word. This is electoral apathy. Exalts in these kind of leaders in really does matter. Yeah it's so crazy. Loaded no flooded. He just delete loaded and flooded before you. Surely we should see the end of this unrelenting in viscous male bashing that this mic heck. Yeah you can't get through. It is held viscous male bashing that Hollywood has now enshrined into every movie those biased biggest now generate. What is still understand? What the other given one example of male bashing viscous is surely seeing your father or brother or grandfather being continuously made to look a complete fool is way beyond a joke. It's viscous biased. Sexist and downright unforgivable. Please vote accordingly. I gave this movie. One for that reason giddy. Sickening one out of ten. This guy should take up golf or something like video like do something you know if anyone is going to writer review like that where they're so insulted by Princess movie and its treatment of men anything that negatively impacts his life. And some way right all right did you do you try maybe ping pong or gardening. Gregor out of touch with what men are saying. Apparently we are. This is an Amazon review of an also league. He is okay. The author of this review is Boo boo hoo or is it. Booboo BOO BOO BOO boo. I don't think it's I don't think it's a an emotion. One out of five fell asleep in the Gutter. Look Elsa Wing. It is amazing that is certainly in the eye of the situation. Although I can't imagine that that is a look that a princess waved might gone. Well I can see it taking on that. Look depending stress like living in a gutter. Yeah Yeah it'll take on that look like the other people have said the quote hair there was more than one the hair quote unquote is all falling out and not long enough in the front style. A bad mullet. What we've got here is a party in the in the front. And that is Elsa. Sure you didn't click the JOE dirt week man if you want to go for quote homeless Elsa Look or Zombie Elsa or something like that. This would be perfect. Zombie and domeless or otherwise. Expect to see a little girl crying and frustrated parents. One out of five. Well how much is it? I'd I'd pay to see that we give that to somebody else as Christmas would absolutely else's kid as long as we have a camera setup somewhere we'll see how it goes. She pulls Joe Dirt Wig out of the box immediately starts bawling and her parents are just like those in a until Santa for you. So he wouldn't. I can't imagine how bad that WIG looks. I looked at some of them when I was in there. They were fucking roadkill. Oh my Lord also bad because people upload pictures of their kids wearing these wings if this law right wig rainbow so were you one of the translucent guys from the Second Matrix movie and understanding. You're trying to be insane. Okay here's another one. Ugly and ill-fitting do not recommend. I got this for a four year old in her elsa costume. I don't think you should be putting wigs on four year old. We don't really like this isn't it. You go into making a frigging wig. Put It on a four year olds et basically you put them. In one of those one of those polyethylene or gowns or whatever they are it's like it's creating a fucking Tiki torch that award polyethylene. I do not believe all yet the murder. Is You know what I bet. It is not a substance. Actually I would wager that definitely not a substance folly. Athem A- under present though you know what I mean I would. Gasoline is what I can piece it together. Turn a little girl into a torch but we can't make it fit ahead. She's too small or odd shaped what the head of the WHIG. You train to dress up. E T to disguise her as hand. Make very more our you trying like you have like. Some one person has like their foot on her Chin and just grabbing the ponytail and is trying to jam it. Get it done ahead. You gotTa Bungee. Get a Bungee cord. I mean she's four her skull isn't it's still soft so we should be able to cram this wig on there. Let's make it fit my spill twenty three dollars on it. I'm GonNa she's GonNa wear it. I honestly can't figure out what the issue is. Just won't say on an fucking big. I should also mention She has a pretty normal. So what pretty normal size for her age so you should never mentioned that especially when she's in the room do not ever bring that up as a feature of your child Mike. My little girl two inches average for four year olds head right all says head for age. I have on numerous cheap wigs on Amazon. For costumes over the years has done. I mean honestly weird thing to Brag about it here on my bona fide. How many cheap shitty wigs of Amazon you buy you. WanNa see my papers. Couple hundred here are several receipts for wigs from Amazon Com. I wasn't expecting much but at least they stay on your head. This is nearly useless. Nearly thanks for the state. I'm not returning against still finds nearly as they use it for thanks to the staple gun in the basement. Don't ask what's actually kind of your business. It's useful macgyver. This thing into stuff. Yeah Tax Season of this time tomorrow is available now to binge from start to finish in this new. Iheart series presented by team of business. Join me Voloshin and characterize as we explore the exciting possibilities of the next generation of connectivity from smart cities to future farms. You'll find out. Just how much could change with teacher. Five G. Networks this into this time tomorrow on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast. Let's move on to tripadvisor. This is a review of frozen the musical by Guido Karp. Talk also production facility yet. A less than acceptable experience took my wife yesterday for the frozen musical and really really really wanted us to have a good time. I really needed away. Then this marriage look. How many lilies were there really really really really really really needed really to the third power is how much my oh marriages and trump tell you it was that we really needed this to work out. They tie it was a turning. Point was the final hook on which I was hanging naps the frozen musical independent NGOs theater. The show was excellent and so was the place itself. Oh Okay so. It's a good review. Why only one star then one-star? We arrived at seven PM with the show. Starting at eight ticketing was easy and efficient. It's all all through and my wife thought. She had plenty of time to see the bathroom sincere to tore the bathroom. No money is a must see if anyone listening wants to big Hollywood sites. There's a bathroom in town. Is Like Canvas Botanical Gardens? You set new pass for the bathroom. WanNa ride that year. No way after queuing for almost an hour. She was ushered into the theater before being able to do so. It's like a fast path so she waited in line for almost an hour to go for almost an hour. She was ushered into the she was almost near the near. The front of the line probably had to just nobody can force you bathroom. Not something that happened. That is illegal alien bit something. Uh from going into a bathroom nope get in there. Ma'am please get in there. Enjoy the show for the first comeback at intermission in our in fifteen minutes. Yeah you do. She might be bursting with curiosity. I tried my luck in the men's room. And do I made it and then ship? My pants says he wanted to see it. Say did anything in there. You got to see it. Well this is what he says he was on or I would have loved to get water but seeing a bathroom and getting a drink seeing impossible. Spend a Lotta time. You've got to take the pictures she got to. The theatre's management really has to step up their game or not. It gives them an gives them the option. After all this Hollywood anything goes before that before. Funny People. I saw short people. Now what is it? The Randy Newman performance of the Academy Awards. And it's like fucking stands fucking right in the same song for fifty years telling me all the time genius. You're like me you would love. That's an insult jake. Like got us and it was like Academy Awards. This new song is is like movement deliver food choice for your your big animated call yet another side you good and I mean you know other other. Great artists are fans of his I. Just don't get it taken gracie pills. He's obviously a great song right. Just can't stand this voice. I love La. I think that was his best. I Love I love it. Yeah lyrical master it's so eighties so intrinsically tied to the naked gun right. Yeah Yeah you. Can't you know he should have just been a one hit wonder? It's a whole whole songs featured in that movie on length. Oh Yeah Yeah. And he just he might be the nicest guy in the world but he just looks like such an asshole. Raise the nicest guy in the world he might be. I have no idea no reason to think he's not a nice guy I don't know he seems to have a lot of admirers and friends in the music business. I bet he's just got that look on. He's a little insufferable. He did a song. That's in major league. Yeah dejected love theme. Yep Yep Yep no man. I'm GET SAMBA renting them. Except that's probably just me and you know at this point in my life. I'm willing to accept that everyone else is wrong. That's big view. You know what I mean like as a kid or as a younger man as a younger man. I think I'd always well. There's gotTa be twenty years. I always just imagine it's like well. You know everyone else. I like. There must be something I just don't get. They've always been artists like that for me and now. I'm at the point where I realized no no. No I get everything I just don't like I don't like Like there's a whole strain of eighties music. I was just thinking about this today. So I mentioned this is an example like new order. Yeah professional yeah. I can't stand it. Yeah if you didn't like it at the time then it's not GonNa Right. I'll go in and I'll listen to like depeche mode and it's very specific. I'LL DIVE INTO THE POOL OF MON and I'll be like takes you somewhere and then I'm just like I don't want that and I don't want that especially well. That's exactly what I listen to You. Know for a little bit like orchestral maneuvers in the dark. Oh md big one for me and it takes me back to like seventh eighth grade. Well what was that? They had a big hit. What was there? I don't know what it is? Well that's on. Your singing sounded really good. If you leave. That's what I was saying if you leave. Yes worldwide spray. The Great Tom. Joan of ARC scrape to this is my sludge in dance. I had a very headphone driven child. I used to just lay my bedroom. And that's why it was so weird for on yesterday. Let's let's you sign off. Let's that's I know So ends this episode of Ingrid. Thank you for listening. Please be sure to subscribe if you haven't already. If you can rate the show and Lisa Review we would really appreciate it sweat through believe we're going to get into those follow us on instagram. At Citizen Critic. Fahd and we'll talk to you next week bye bye. Boom citizen critic comes to you from Double Elvis and is executive produced by G. Brennan of disgrace land was created by. Jake Greg Conley enemy. Scott Janet's I also composed recorded the music. I engineer for more podcasts. From iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. 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Matt And Kim: How To Go Outside And Not Die

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Matt And Kim: How To Go Outside And Not Die

"Support for NPR and the following message come from Amelia Island, Florida a barrier island on the northeast coast that captivates visitors with thirteen miles of uncrowded beach championship golf, natural beauty and a historic district Amelia Island dot com slash NPR. From NPR and WNYC coming to you from the pageant in Saint Louis, this NPR's, our puzzles word games and trivia asked me another. I'm Jonathan Colton. Now. Here's your host. Oh, fear Eisenberg. Thank you Jonathan. Everybody's so great great to see you. Yeah. This lovely so. Yeah. Excited to talk to our contestants. We have four contestants their Bank stage right now toasting each other's ravioli, getting ready to come out here and play some nerdy games with us. And I love coming to say Lewis because people are nice people are nice people smiled at me. I went shopping so many people working at the stores talk to me. It was exhausting to be honest in New York. No, one talks to you in a store. No. That's over with here. Constant I was actually I was shopping at my very favorite store and a sales woman came up to me. And she asked me, she said, did you find everything you need to today, ma'am? But I just could not register what was going on. And why someone was talking to me that is what what? And she said did you find everything you needed today, ma'am? And I was like. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry. Let's see did. I find every let's well, it's midnight. And I'm in Walgreens buying ice cream. So no, no. I don't think anything worked out today. Did it? We've two great special guests that perform together in a band, Matt and Kim are going to do. Super excited. To say, they are super nice down to earth, well adjusted and that is not a coded way of saying their music sucks because it's true anytime you like talk about someone or a band. That's both nice and good at what they do. It's it sounds like surprising or suspicious feel like everyone has to downplay it billboard magazine, actually called them. A seemingly inexhaustible beacon of positivity. I know but so negative like why? So bitter billboard why so bitter. But I think it's a lot of pressure to actually name your band after your couple. They have to commit to making that happen forever. I would never do that. If I was in a band with my husband, I would be so afraid of using our names because what if things change like at best. I'd call it. Oh, fear and current husband. So then it could be fear and her coot new haircut. And then fear in Kim. All right. Let's play some games. Everybody. Our first contestants will play a game about the exotic places. I can go on a vacation with my public radio salary, aka imaginary places. Let's meet her contestants I up Claire Hubert. You're a senior at UCLA studying international development. Oh, hi. When you ring in will hear this. Your opponent is Derek Larson. You're a nephrologist which is a kidney doctor. Hi, I am happy to be here. Great. When you were again, we'll hear this Clarin, Derek whoever has more points after two games. We'll go onto our final round. Saint Louis has plenty of things to do. You can go to cardinals game you can eat Ted. Drew's frozen custard. You can zoom down at ten story slide at the city museum and then throw up frozen custard. Not frozen when it comes up. This game is called imaginary tourism Jonathan I will pretend to be travel reporters describing fictional places from books and movies. You just need to identify the source material. Here we go when you visit Arndale remember to pack long underwear because it stuck in perpetual. Winter they say Rome wasn't built in a day. But Queen Elsa built an ice castle in less than two minutes, and she did it while singing in high heels Claire frozen frozen is correct. Grab your cardigan. Hop on a trolley to the idyllic neighborhood of make believe where cats all's in humans peacefully coexist under their puppet. Ruler. King Friday, the thirteenth enjoyed tours of the museum go round and the rocking chair factory. Derek? What is mister Rogers neighborhood? That is correct. We are not on jeopardy. However. Technically, you got that. Right. And I have to give you the point. Good. Grab your passport and book a trip to Genova a small sunny kingdom between Spain and France for the Royal debut of Princess Mia Thermopylae Lewis, she didn't find out. She was royalty until she was in high school makeover. Claire Princess diaries? Yeah. That's right. I like that a movie makeovers, basically like they fluffed the hair and take off the glasses. That's what I do. That's what I do when I. That's. Do you enjoy locomotives and British class divisions? Then you'll love a trip to soda or or the trains can talk and George Carlin is a conductor. Claire Thomas the tank engine? Yes, we'll take Thomas the tank engine. The name of the show is shining time station. George Carlin is a conductor doing like the seven words, you can't say on that show. Caboose? Talks dr. You can say caboose if you're talking about a caboose. That's right. But you can't say caboose rail the boxcar. Probably not. Plan your next routine. Ian, romance in the feuding countries of Florin and Gilder that cliffs of insanity are in saying, the fire swamp is fiery the rodents of unusual size are actually really big still wanna go as you wish but be prepared to die. Claire the Princess bride? Great first game Clare you are in the lead. Our next game is about Saint Louis celebrities. There are so many famous people from the city. So if you live here, and you're not famous. My question is what happened? Claire the full thing that you are studying is international development minoring in French and global health. It's a mouthful for. Sure. Great. I feel like you're going to save the world off Ron say. That's yeah. Okay. How just out of Geraci? How did the French find its way into this? I started taking French when I was in the sixth grade because it was the only thing that fit into my schedule. But I ended up participating in a pen pal program in my high school and made a great friend that lives in Dijon sort of been this long strange friendship halfway across the world. So you're keeping up with the French or the friendship for the friendship and also it's very useful in diplomacy in developing countries. Derek I would also like to say happy ninth wedding anniversary. Thank you. Thank you. We couldn't think of anything more romantic than spending it with you guys had. We're here today. It's today and today is happening right now, as we speak our dinner, we are not add is happening. Right. So what are you going to be doing for the rest of the year to make up for this whatever she says in the front row? Well done. Would make it expensive and elaborate. So this audio quiz is called Saint Louis CNN's. You call yourself. Lou is no luge in 's Saint Louis. She's saying Lucians. Oh, no, oh now that night theater. Saint Louis ins. Okay. Saint Lucians was shot down. This audio quizzes called Saint Louis ins, Yogi Berra, Tina Turner, Scott back ULA. What do they all have in common? They were born or grew up in Saint Louis. So we're going to play an audio clip of a famous person from Saint Louis, you tell me who that person is in this game was worth double points. Clare? You're in the lead. You stay in the lead. And you're in the final round Derek you need to get more points or you'll receive h icago cubs. Baseball cap. I love playing to this crash. Very strong opinions. Full disclosure. I'm from Chicago originally. Guys. We cannot have a fight this early in the show. I'd love. All right. This poet read at Bill Clinton's inauguration in nineteen Ninety-three and say simply very simply with hope. Good morning, Claire, it's my Angelo. At is my Angela. Before this sports caster called cubs games. He was in the booth in Saint Louis charged afternoon inside Loyd cardinals could wind up on the cardinals could lose today. The cardinals could finish in a two way tie today. The cardinals could finish three white tied at a. Derek Harry Carey. That's correct. Yeah. I don't know if he was giving all those options. So they could like edit the one that fit and they'd be like, he's. He's named the EMMY winning actor giving this emotional eulogy. No, we all loved Mr. Magoo tales, a good solid lizard, a rock salt. So I'm told. Not sure. Okay. Here's a hint, relax. Everybody going to be okay. He's from this is uh this Claire sterling K Brown that is correct. Who's the artist behind this two thousand seventeen album control? I just gave him satisfy the league. Now anyone wanna run in with the guests anything? All right. We were looking for scissor. Here's your last clue who's this. Johnny. Claire if it's Chuck Berry that is correct. You guys are great contestants. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. After two games. Claire is going to the final round. Coming up. We'll find out who will face off against Clare in our final round. And we'll be joined by two thirds of the band, Matt and Kim Matt will be here came will be here and could not make it. I'm off your guys in Bergen. This is asked me another from NPR. We'd like to take a moment to thank insure message. From our sponsor nature's way offering quality herbal supplements since one thousand nine hundred sixty nine they believe that nature knows best which is why it's always been their mission to seek out. The best herbs the earth has to give nature's way is committed to going to any continent or country to find where herbs grow best. Find out. More ad nature's way dot com. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from the Annie E Casey foundation developing solutions to support strong families and communities to help ensure a brighter future for America's children. More information is available at CF dot org. The world is complicated. And for many of us history class was a long time ago. That's where we come in. I'm rundown that rom teenager Bluey, and we're the host through line NPR's new history podcast every week. We'll dig into forgotten stories from the moments that shaped our world through live. This jury like you've never heard it before. From the pageant in Saint Louis. This is asked me another NPR's. Our puzzles word games and trivia, I'm Jonathan Coulton. Now. Here's your host fear Eisenberg. Jonathan. It's time to welcome our special guests you've had their song daylight stuck in your head for the last nine years. Their latest album is called almost every day. Please welcome mat. And kim. Great to see you. Now, you two met at the Pratt institute are proud Art Institute. What were you studying there? I went for illustration and Matt went for film. Okay. And what came first Matt and Kim the relationship or Matt and Kim the band men Kim. Yeah. The doing it that came out. Yeah. So it was Kim. And matt. Still socially working. So I was on campus. I was sitting on a bench with a friend and Matt walked pass. And I said see that dude. I'm going. The him. And she did. Actually, our first cover of a magazine we ever got was for a magazine called the nod. We're not married, but we were on the cover of a wedding magazine and Kim very explicitly gave that whole story. My mom was very excited about so she sent copies to my grandmother to my. And my grandmother in a very Helen cook way was like it was a very nice story. Honey. The grandma way to stay cool story growth story. So you decide that you're gonna start a band. That's just decision. You're like, let's well, it's more of an accident. I went to a show, and I was watching the drummer. And I was like man that looks fun. I want to do that. So a friend gave me a hand-me-down set, and I was just kinda messing around in the bedroom. And Matt had this keyboard he wanted to figure out. So we were just kind of doing it doing it together. Hi five. And and then a friend forced us to play a show, and we kept being like, but we're not a band, and I don't know I had a really hard time coming up with the band name. And then they put us down as Matt and Kim works fine. So your friend was like you're playing a real Liz is a real gig. Well, real in the basement of an art gallery to eight friends. It was pretty real let me tell you. Hey, New York City that was a show. My god. I did that show like yesterday. And how did it go people asked us to do more shows? So I think wow. Yeah. That's I mean, so there goes so then you are just moving forward. You guys. Do these great videos? I feel like you master. There's a lot of creativity. I mean, clearly illustrator film. Right. The background comes into play art school. You know, you gotta use it for something. Yeah. We'll invite us anything getting naked always helps because I had a we shot a music video for song called lessons to learn. Right. Where we took all our clothes off in Times Square. And we want to be a for it. So like guys naked at all times who pitched whom on that idea. How did that that was Matt? And I kept saying no, no way. Also, it was February in New York freezing, really cold. Also, I kept my socks on because it's New York. You don't want to run barefoot in New York City now. But at the same time as many, gentlemen know, a man is not the extent of. Manhood in the freezing cold in Times Square in February. So who was taking the bigger risk. I don't know. Hey, I was on point. So two thousand seventeen you're playing a gig in Mexico. You jump out onto stage, and you have a bad fall. Kim, Tori, C L onstage in Mexico. Yes. It's same way. I come out on the stage. All the time jump off the riser lights hit someone moved to stage fan up. So I thought in that second of coming down. I'm gonna struggle because that's what you do. Oh, it was funny because I didn't realize what happened. But it felt like my knee was on fire. And I was like oh sweet. We have pyro at the show. Can't usually Flinn. Yeah. I thought I caught on fire, but I played five songs. Hey, we were there. We're going to do the show. Wow. Would that moment was followed by an hour. Ambulance ride to the hospital, and then she was put up in a hospital bed. IV's xrays all this stuff. And our translator came back and said your insurance isn't gonna cover you here. Probably going to be pretty expensive for all this and he comes back, and he's like it's going to be about eight thousand dollars. And I was like, yeah. That probably makes sense. And I was like, wait. Those are pesos. It was three hundred bucks for all of that. Like in the states that would have been a filler sunk. I would've been banked. Go to Mexico when you wanna get hurt. You're back touring have the shows changed a little bit. I don't jump off the riser anymore. Okay. All the time. No good. I feel like you've learned a lesson. Well done well done. So you for the first time in a long time because if you're injury you take time off from touring almost a year. Did it influence your recent album almost every day, we make an upbeat music, we come from a spirited place. We think that especially when we started out. There was a lot of darker music coming out of New York and are seen and whatever. And we're just like let's just get excited and whatnot. But I do think we made a much more personal in real album. Not just the injury. But of everything that happened last year, politically and everything like that. I just was not willing to write daylight again. But I think it's one of the best things I've ever done. We've had. Hi five. We asked you what you'd like to play a game about Matt you told us you love nature. Love it Kim. You told us you fear nature. Theriot and hate it. Seer game is called how to go outside and not die. I'm going to ask you a multiple choice question about how to survive in the world outside of your apartment ring in to answer. If you're wrong your opponent can steal you're going to play against each other quick. Disclaimer these survival tips being presented are for entertainment purposes. Only. Please consult someone who actually knows what they're talking about before going outdoors. So according to the storm prediction center at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. What should you do if you're in a car during a tornado? Hey seek shelter under a bridge or overpass be get out of your car in lie down in an area lower than the level of the road or sea. Get out your phone and go live because your followers are going to want this content baby. Kim. God I want to say go live, but you'd lay down in a ditch which seemed so dumb. Yeah. You are correct. So you to actually encountered a tornado. Yeah. I learned the hard way. So we were driving across whatever state is just east of Kansas, which I don't know. We're driving a lot of. This day. I'm glad geography wasn't the topic. So you driving driving through Missouri. And as we're approaching a truck stop area, we notice all the power goes out. And then the rain starts to come down. We're seeing cars pulled to the side. That's weird. I guess we'll keep on going and. So finally, we see a gas station comes like, ooh, pullover pullover. I've really got a p so we pull into this gas station and the TV says there is a mile wide tornado headed in this direction. At this point. I asked someone so like is that big. They were not happy with that question. You know, it's saying do not try to go to your loved one stay where you are stay in place be safe or whatever we take a look around our surroundings, which is not only a gas station, but it is the fireworks warehouse. Scientists and can full of fireworks and gasoline. Okay. No way, we are Addy here. So we hopped back in the van, and as we're driving we, but let me say nobody is on the highway. We were just cruise it Lear Salen. No traffic. It was great. At which point and said, if you're listening to the broadcast, and you're in a car, you should get out and lay in a ditch or something lower than the roadway thought these people on the radio are insane. Stupidest thing I've ever heard. But that's what you did real. We got it. We kept going. A live to tell the story, you know. Which of these is a real safety tip from the National Park Service for dealing with bears on a hike a carry bags of coffee grounds in your pockets because bears hate the aroma. Be if you're attacked by a grizzly or Brown bear play dead. But if you're attacked by a black bear do not play Dead Sea dressed the bear in a small red t shirts. So you can see it's cute little tummy. Kim. I love coffee. So I'm gonna go with a coffee grounds interesting. I'm sorry. That is incorrect. According to the Seattle zoo coffee grounds are like catnip show. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Matt. Can you steal see seems not so likely so I'm going to go with be process of elimination? You're right. Yeah. That's right. Risley's around buyer play dead black bear, don't play dead. You have to figure out what color the bear is. What do you do? This. Don't play dead me. Like, do you? I dislike you gotta fight. You got to fight the bear. Okay. Let's say you're stranded outdoors, and you have to resort to eating bugs, according to popular mechanics, which of these characteristics means that a bug is more likely to be poisonous. And therefore you should not use. It has a snack. A it's Harry or bright colored be it's very loud or see. It has the ability to smile. Matt. Harry and bright colored. Yeah, man. That's correct. If they're Harry bright colored have more than six legs. They are probably poisonous. Apparently. Crickets, grasshoppers are very tasty. Have you tried one? I would rather eat popular mechanics. So you guys were amazing. You did pretty well enough. I feel like we learned a lot too. I technically met won that round. I'll give it to you. I'll take technicality. But of course, you wanna ask me another rubik's cubes. Because that's that's the whole point. The best man Kim's latest album is called almost every day. Give it up for Matt. And kim. One our next special guests to play for you follow ask me another on Facebook Twitter, or it's to Graham. My next two contestants will play a game where we make up new saints. My favorite Saint is Saint Germain. Let's meet our contestants first step Sheila oliveri, you once rode a funny newspaper column on the hazards of marriage and raising three alien creatures. I did. Hello. Hi. When you ring in. We're going to hear this. Sheila tell me more about this column. You wrote an example of something you wrote about I wrote about my husband, and my three alien creatures that I also call my sons, you know, it didn't go over well with some of the family members. Not my husband. My husband got to. Okay. Everything before I started in, you know, but he has a sister. And every time a new one would be published. She'd like oh my gosh. I can't believe you said that you said he'd can't into the toilet. And I said, no, I didn't say that. I said that he and all three male progeny seem to have questionable aim. Takes a while. To learn. That's all. Not that long. Yes. Some people never master it. Your opponent is Amanda price. You're a grad student at Washington University studying size Malla, Judy. Hello. Hello. When you in. We'll hear this. Amanda seismology the study of earthquakes seems like a growth industry. Yeah. More and more every day. How did you get interested in that particular? So I'm not from Saint Louis. I'm actually from California and growing up we had a few of them. I mean. And did you move here because you wanted to? I mean, just get away from this. No, actually, I really enjoy. Okay. Sure. I look at the Mariana subduction zone, which is in the western Pacific, which most people only know as the deepest part of the ocean. But I get to travel a lot because we do a lot of field work, and one of the places was Antarctica, which is one of the coolest places to go to most literally and figure. Yeah. Okay. Remember Sheila, Amanda, whoever has more points after two games. We'll go onto our final round. Let's go to your first game. Saint Louis is named for king Louis. The ninth of France who is the only French king to be made a Saint not even Louis Vitton. In this game here. Inventing new saints by taking words and phrases starting with the letters S T and changing those letters to the word Saint, for example, if we said, it's the patron Saint of shop where you buy rock containing valuable minerals, you would answer Saint or so you take the word store as clued by shop and change it to Saint order, meaning rock Tanny valuable minerals. No, it's totally fun. You guys. It's really fun. We're all going to be fine. Okay. Here we go. It's the Saint of an iron and carbon alloy. That's also a slippery snake like fish. Amanda Saint ill that is. Right steel saints. He'll. Deal. It's the Saint for one of the fifty American political regions represented by two federal senators and someone who consumed food. Amanda, Saint eight Saint eight for state. That's right. That's a good Saint Saint eight nothing. That's the one you want to be your only job is to have eaten a lot of exactly. And they're like well done. Religious variables. Variables it's the Saint of two violinists of violist and a cellist all who wear finger bling. Sheila Saint ring quartet. There you go. Yes. Indeed sheila. It's the patron Saint of being afraid to perform for an audience and being afraid of getting old. Sheila. Saint age fright. You got that's right. I feel like that clue is sounds like something someone said to me at four wall selling. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's the Saint of someone you don't know who lives in Texas loves karate and his name Walker. Sheila Saint ranger Texas ranger Saint ranger stranger. Yes. That is correct. Great game Sheila is in the lead. Does our show? Make you feel retroactively less alone in high school, then you should be a contestant on the show. Go to AMA tickets dot org. When we come back, someone we'll go home a winner, and someone will be fed to a Clydesdale. I'm off your Eisenberg. And this is asked me another from NPR. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from the Annie E Casey foundation developing solutions to support strong families and communities to help ensure a brighter future for America's children. More information is available at CF dot org. Support also comes from the Annie E Casey foundation developing solutions to support strong families and communities to help ensure a brighter future for America's children. More information is available at eighty c F dot org. Join us on Thursday, March seventh for a live. Taping of ask me another at the bell house. We'll be joined by comedian a paranoid Carola, you know from season. Two of the stand ups on Netflix and the new comedy central series corporate tickets and information at AMA tickets dot org. Amazon Google Facebook big companies are getting relief being is that a problem? Listen to planet. Money's new series on big business competition and antitrust law in America, that's on flan at Mike. From the pageant in Saint Louis. This is NPR's asked me another. I'm Jonathan Colton. Now. Here's your host. Oh, fear Eisenberg. Thank you Jonathan. Before the break, we met our contestants Sheila and Amanda up next. We've got a literary game. That is off the rails called crazy twain. It's a game designed to upset authors and Rockstars everywhere. By combining heavy metal and heavy hitting literature. But first, let's check in with our contestants Sheila you once entered the national chicken cooking contest. I did with a made up recipe. Yes. Okay. Very much. So how'd it go? I got a phone call one day during those dark, stay at home, mom years and. The person on the other line of the phones, and congratulations you've been chosen to represent the state of Missouri in the Nashville chicken cooking contest. And I replied did. No one else. Enter. And she was a little upset about that. Yeah. Sure. So what was your made up recipe would involve basically, it was everything that will stop your heart all in one. And how did the judge is like is why didn't win, but I do have a silver plate bowl with my name and Missouri engraved in the side, and this lovely hideous shade of green sash that proclaims me the Missouri chicken cooking. Contest representative. Amanda, you Bizet Antarctica last year. So I mean, I have never been give me something that stood out to you. I got delayed for about two and a half weeks. And when you're there for thirty days to try and get stuffed on is a long time. And so we've been delayed two and a half weeks. We just get delayed delayed delayed and finally we get this call and they say we have a plane, but you have to leave right now. And we're just like trying to hurry and everything we're so excited to go out in the field. And our show driver goes year delayed. We're going to have to hang out at the airfield. We have a meta back coming from south pole and our whole field seasons kind of gone to not. But it's kind of okay because we save buzz Aldrin's life. So I just wanna say butts Audran if you're listening. I love you. Thank you for getting me into science, but you only a plane. Your next game is a music parody game about Mark Twain and the points are doubled Sheila, you're in the lead stay in the lead. And you were in the final round. Amanda, you need to get more points or we will feed you to a Clydesdale. We weren't joking about that. We are in Saint Louis. Mark Twain's childhood home is just north of here. So we changed the lyrics of the Ozzy Osbourne's crazy train. To be about things associated with Mark Twain? And we call this game crazy twain. And I must tell you honestly that the title of the game is the primary reason that the game. So just ring in to tell me what I'm singing about. You. We go. Crazy. To use my real name. Something catchy. Creases? That shows this. I was born. First and last game. Sheila Samuel Clemens. Samuel Clemens is correct. Burning from. Learn to this. Standing. Sure, a riverboat a riverboat is the answer. Song is very high. Everybody. I'm getting hazard pay for it though. So don't worry get paid extra when it's too hot. Sure. Me without this thing. Bushy? Amanda. Thing in the sky. Asserted women came back. The way it began. That snow cook ended my spe. Haley's comet Joe. That's right. The Haley's comet comes round the earth every seventy five years including the year. Mark Twain was born eighteen thirty five Mark Twain predicted that he would die when it came back. He did maybe he's an alien who came from the planet Haley's comet that dropped him off him up. It's like come up my rights coming back around. Like until then I'm going to be the most quotable person of. Probably gonna grow one of those mustache. Does your last clue hits? Nicotine the. Roles. Spoke so much mad bus stash smell black Bs. Amanda, cigarette cigar, cigarette cigar is the that's correct. He didn't say the size. You're absolutely right fear. How did our contestants do in this game? After two games Sheila. Congratulations. You're moving onto our final round. While Claire and she'll get ready for the final round. It's time for us to play a game. This is called fact bag. We have up cycled a Chinooks grocery store bag. And filled it with trivia questions, Jonathan I do not know the answers to these. So I'm going to pick out one. Every question is written on an envelope. I'll read a question Jonathan ly. We'll discuss then I'll open up the envelope and find out the real answer. Here we go. I fact bag fact Budweiser is headquartered in Saint Louis, and it's icon is the Clydesdale horse. According to the company standards. How much must Clydesdale way to be eligible to become an official. Budweiser clydesdale. I don't think you should be judging horses in this way. Yeah. Making them feel bad imagine. If you're a giant Clydesdale, but you're not big enough to be an official Budweiser. Is it big enough it or is it a certain size? What if you're very large? But particularly hollow Clydesdale. That's right. Where do you fit him? What if you've got a dead body for Clydesdale? You know, what a fair, I'm working on it. I don't appreciate. What's the horse way, one hundred pounds one hundred pounds hundred hundred and fifty how many of me would you say fit in the Clydesdale? I would say seven Colton HS seven Colton clydes. Yeah. Seven or eight Colin's. I think there are about a thousand pounds regular horses a thousand pounds. Yeah. I'm guessing. Okay. Yeah. And so a Clydesdale another deuce. Three hundred thirteen hundred pounds hundred pounds. And then what is Budweiser want from their clydesdales they want they want ones with the beer belly. Right. They want ones that look like they've had some product. Fifteen hundred how about that fifteen hundred eight let's see what we don't know what we're talking about. Oh interesting between eighteen hundred and two thousand three hundred. Downs for context, the average horse weighs about a thousand pounds. Right. Other calls the cases to become a Budweiser Clydesdale. They must be at least six feet tall. And at least four years old and also quote, four white stockings a blaze of white on the face, a black mane and a black tail seems like a lot of rule. I feel very uncomfortable with all of that. Body shaming a bunch of awards. Verses. All right here, we go Saint Louis is where Lewis and Clark's expedition began. When Thomas Jefferson sent them out to scout, the Louisiana territory he secretly hoped they bring back proof of the existence of what single payer healthcare. A good guess. There were going out to the woods. They wanted to find out. What was their uncharted territory? So like a monster. Like, right like Bigfoot was Bigfoot a myth or like, oh, go pogo or something. What's oca- pogo? Okot pogo is like the the Loch Ness monster of the Okinawa in British Columbia. I feel like big foot is not a bad gig, really big foot. All right foot. I living mastodon American mastodons went extinct about ten thousand years ago. Thomas, Jefferson, collected mastodon bones and would even lay them out on the White House floor mister, president Jefferson thought mastodons could still be alive. And wow presidents have been crazy forever. Jefferson thought mastodons could still be alive in wanted to prove to Europe that America had big majestic animals. That you're. You like to say Hello to my living mastodon? Eight two thousand fourteen study published in the journal frontiers of zoology revealed that dogs react to the earth's magnetic field in what way can they smell magnets? No, actually, I've smelled a magnet before in my house. I lay out all my magnets. And then I smell each one. My magnets bigger than Europe that I. So what about magnetic field? They lie down. That's why they circle it's because they're trying to find the turnip fine. But you know, what that's a good idea. What if it is something about the direction like what if they lie down in the direction of magnetic field? That's perfect spin around until they feel it right? That's why they go round and round and round. And that's actually they get it. It's my follow the knows noses north true north. Okay. Let's see dogs tend to align. Their bodies along north-south access that lines up with the earth magnetic field, right? Oh when their pooping. Researchers at the university of life sciences in Prague observed one thousand eight hundred ninety three defecation ze L of a summer job. This. That's all the facts. We have time for today. Thanks back-back. Thanks. It's time to crown our big winner. Let's bring back our finalists clear Hubert who got into French for the friendship and Sheila all very who represented Missouri in the national chicken cooking contests. Claire Sheila your final round is called arch nemesis. Saint Louis is most famous landmark is of course, the gateway arch every answer in this final round contains the consecutive letters A R C H, although they may or may not be pronounced arch. For example, if I said this for mentored milk product is named after an English village in Somerset, you dancer, cheddar cheese that consecutive letters A R C H appear at the end of cheddar. And it's the beginning of cheese. Yeah. Let it sink in. Our big winner will receive an Asmaa the rubik's cube signed by Matt and Kim that is also covered. In melted, prevail cheese. We rolled a twenty sided die backstage and Sheila is going. I here we go Sheila mies van der Rohe Frank Lloyd Wright and Mike Brady all share this profession architect that is correct. Claire Louis Leakey Gertrude bell and Indiana Jones all share this field of study archaeology. That is correct Sheila. It's the building in Washington DC, where nNcholas cage went to steal the declaration of independence the national archives. That is correct. Claire Argo is a popular brand of this white powdery food product commonly used to thicken sauces cornstarch. Yeah. That's right. According to a recent piece in the New York Times this butterfly distinguished by its orange and black colors recently, experienced a large population. Decline monarch that is correct. Claire this term describes a scattered? Group of islands in the same body of water and Archipegalo I didn't say that right at all. Yeah. We're going to go with archipelago that one. That one. That's what I meant Sheila h Jon Benjamin who voices Bob and Bob's burgers, also voices the title character in this animated TV show. Three seconds heart chain. I'm sorry. That is incorrect. We were looking for Archer Claire, he's the protagonist of TV's. Riverdale archie. That is correct. Read the halfway point clear is in the lead four to three Sheila Leah show cod stars in this TBS comedy about friends who are looking for someone three seconds. Search party the name of the show. Oh, wow. That makes sense. Player the company, I heart media, which owns an operates more than eight hundred and fifty radio stations in the United States was previously known by this name, three seconds. Clear channel. Sheila, according to legend, the exclamation Eureka was shouted by this ancient Greek mathematician, Archimedes that is correct. Claire in the hunger games films. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Played a character named after this ancient Greek author who wrote parallel lives and morale Lia Plutarch. That is correct. Okay. Here's a situation. Clair's in the lead. We each have one question left Sheila you need to get this question right to stay in the game Sheila dating back to ancient times. This paper like writing material was made from animal skin parchment. That is correct clear. If you get this, right? You win. Miriam Webster defines this as absence of government anarchy that is correct. Break game Sheila, you are Jim. 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Matt And Kim: How To Go Outside And Not Die

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Matt And Kim: How To Go Outside And Not Die

"Support for this NPR podcast and the following message come from Hulu with their new original drama. The first from the creator of house of cards and starring Sean Penn, exploring the lives of the astronauts taking their first steps towards Mars. The first is now streaming all episodes only on Hulu. From NPR and WNYC coming to you from the pageant in Saint Louis. This NPR's our puzzles word games and trivia asked me another. I'm Jonathan Colton. Now here's your host. Oh, fear. Eisenberg. Thank you. Jonathan. Everybody's so great to be great to see you this lovely. So yeah, excited to talk to our contestants. We have four contestants, their backstage right now toasting each other's ravioli, getting ready to come out here and place them nerdy games with us, and I love coming to Saint Louis because people are nice. People are nice. People smiled at me. I went shopping so many people working at the stores talk to me. It was exhausting to be honest in New York. No one talks to you in a store? No, that's over with here constant. I was actually, I was shopping at my very favorite store and a sales woman came up to me and she asked me, she said, did you find everything you need to today, ma'am. But I just could not register what was going on and why someone was talking to me, that is what, what. She said, did you find everything you needed today? Ma'am. And I was like. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry. Let's see. Did I find every let's well it's midnight and I'm in Walgreens buying ice cream, so no, no. I don't think anything worked out today. Did it. We've two great special guests that perform together in a band, Matt and Kim are going to be super excited. I to say they are super nice down to earth. Well adjusted, and that is not a coded way of saying their music sucks because it's true anytime you like talk about someone or a band, that's both nice and good at what they do. It's it sounds like surprising or suspicious feel like everyone has to downplay it. Billboard magazine actually called them a seemingly inexhaustible beacon of positivity. I know, but so negative. Like why so bitter billboard, why so bitter. But I think it's a lot of pressure to actually name your band after your couple. They have to commit to making that happen forever. I would never do that if I was in a band with my husband, I would be so afraid of using her name's because what if things change like at best I'd call it fear and current husband. So then it could be fear and her cute new haircut. And then fear in Kim. All right, so much finalist play some games. Everybody. Our first two contestants will play a game about the exotic places. I can go on a vacation with my public radio salary, aka imaginary places. Let's meet her contestants. I up Claire Hubert. You're a senior at UCLA studying international development. Oh, hi. When you ring in will hear this. Your opponent is Derek Larson. You're a nephrologist, which is a kidney doctor. Hi, I am happy to be here. Great. When you're wearing in, we'll hear this Clarin Derek, whoever has more points after two games. We'll go onto our final round. Saint Louis has plenty of things to do. You can go to cardinals game. You can eat Ted Drew's, frozen custard. You can zoom down at ten story slide at the city museum and then throw up frozen custard. It's not frozen when it comes up. This game is called imaginary tourism, Jonathan, thy will pretend to be travel reporters, describing fictional places from books and movies. You just need to identify the source material. Here we go. When you visit Arndale remember to pack long underwear because it stuck in perpetual winter. They say, Rome wasn't built in a day, but Queen Elsa built an ice castle in less than two minutes, and she did it while singing in high heels, Claire, frozen frozen is correct. Grab your cardigan hop on a trolley to the idyllic. Neighborhood of make believe. We're cats, all's and humans peacefully coexist under their puppet ruler king Friday. The thirteenth. Enjoy tours of the museum go round and the rocking chair factory Derek. What is mister Rogers neighborhood? That is correct. We are not on jeopardy. However. Technically you got that right. And I have to give you the point. Good. Grab your passport and book a trip to Genova a small southern kingdom between Spain and France for the Royal debut of Princess Mia, thermometer Lewis, she didn't find out she was royalty until she was in high school makeover. Claire Princess diaries. Yeah, that's right. Movie makeovers basically like they fluffed the hair and take off the glasses. That's what I do. That's what I do. And I, that's. That's. Do you enjoy locomotives and British class divisions, then you'll love a trip to soda or or the trains can talk and George Carlin is a conductor Claire Thomas the tank engine? Yes, we'll take Thomas the tank engine. The name of the show is shining time station. George Carlin is a conductor doing like the seven words. You can't say on that show. Caboose. Boxcar. Say Qaboos if you're talking about a caboose. That's right. But you can't say caboose rail the boxcar. Probably not. Plan your next routine, Ian romance in the feuding countries of Florin and Gilder. The cliffs of insanity are insane. The fire swamp is fiery. The rodents of unusual size are actually really big. Still wanna go as you wish, but be prepared to die. Claire, the Princess bride. Great burst game Clare. You are in the lead. Our next game is built Saint Louis liberties. There are so many famous people from the city. So if you live here and you're not famous, my question is what happens. Claire, the full thing that you are studying is international development minoring in French and global health. It's a mouthful for sure. Great. I feel like you're going to save the world off Ron say that's yeah. Okay. How just out of curiosity, how did the French find its way into this? I started taking French when I was in the sixth grade because it was the only thing that fit into my schedule. Yeah, but I ended up participating in a pen pal program in my high school and made a great friend that lives in Dijon. So sort of been this long, strange friendship, halfway across the world. So you're keeping up with the French or the friendship for the friendship. And also it's very useful in diplomacy in developing countries. Right, Derek. I would also like to say happy, ninth wedding anniversary. Thank you. Thank you. We couldn't think of anything more romantic than with you guys had. We're here today. It's today and today is happening right now as we speak our dinner, we are not at is happening. Right. So what are you going to be doing for the rest of the year to make up for this, whatever she says in the front row. Well done. I would make it expensive and elaborate. So this audio quiz is called Saint Louis CNN's. You call yourself. Lou is no luge in Saint Louis. She's saying Lucians. Oh, no. Oh, now that night the theater. Saint Louis ins. Okay. Saint Lucians was shot down. This audio quizzes called Saint Louis ins, Yogi Berra, Tina Turner, Scott back ULA. What do they all have in common? They were born or grew up in Saint Louis. So we're going to play an audio clip of a famous person from Saint Louis. You tell me who that person is in this game was worth double points, Clare. You're in the lead you stay in the lead and you're in the final round Derek. You need to get more points or you will receive h icago cubs baseball cap. I love playing to this crowd. Very strong opinion. Full disclosure. I'm from Chicago originally. Guys, we cannot have a fight this early in the show. All right. This poet read at Bill Clinton's inauguration in nineteen Ninety-three and say, simply very simply with hope. Good morning Claire, it's my Angelo. It is my Angela. Before this sports caster called cups games. He was in the booth in Saint Louis charged after no. Cardinals could win the today. The cardinals could lose today. The cardinals could finish in a two way. Tie today. The cardinals could finish a three way tie day. Derek, Kerry Terry, that's correct. I don't know if he was giving all those options so they could like edit the one that fit and they'd be like, he's. Name be EMMY winning actor, giving this emotional eulogy? No, we all loved Mr.. Magoo it was a good, solid lizard, a rocks. So I'm told. Not sure. Okay. Here's a hint. Relax. Everybody's going to be okay. He's from this is us Claire, sterling k. Brown. That is correct. Who's the artist behind this two thousand seventeen album control. Just keep them satisfied. Now anyone wanna bring in with the guests anything? No. All right. We were looking for syzza. Here's your last clue. Who's this. Johnny. Claire, it's Chuck Berry that is cure. You guys are great contestants. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. After two games, Claire is going to the final round. Coming up. We'll find out who will face off against Clare in our final round. And we'll be joined by two thirds of the band, Matt and Kim Matt will be here, Kim will be here and could not make it. I'm up your is in Bergen. This is asked me another from NPR. This episode is sponsored by curiosity, stream and award winning documentary streaming service from the founder of the Discovery Channel. Finally, a place where you can geek out by binge-watching shows on science history, nature, and more with over eighteen hundred films and series available worldwide, and apps on most devices. There's truly something for everyone. Try it for thirty days free at curiosity, stream dot com. Slash AM and enter the promo code. AMA. Support for this NPR podcast and the following message comes from TD Ameritrade. Did you know there's a simpler approach to investing driven by TD Ameritrade advanced technology with essential portfolios pursuing your financial goals is now automated and easier than ever learn more by visiting TD Ameritrade dot com. Slash asked me another. What's unique about the human experience and why don't we all have in common. I'm guy Roz every week on Ted radio hour. We go on a journey to the big ideas, emotions and discoveries that fill all of us with wonder, find it on NPR one or wherever you get your podcasts. From the pageant in Saint Louis. This is asked me another NPR's our puzzles word games and trivia. I'm Jonathan Coleman. Now, here's your host. Fear Eisenberg. Thank you, Jonathan. It's time to welcome our special guests. You've had their song daylight stuck in your head for the last nine years. Their latest album is called almost every day. Please welcome. Matt and Kim. So great to see you. Now you two met at the Pratt institute are Pratt Art Institute. What were you studying there? I went for illustration and Matt went for film. Okay. What came first, Matt and Kim, the relationship or Matt and Kim, the band men Kim doing it that came out. Yeah, it was Kim and Matt. Still socially working. So I was on campus. I was sitting on a bench with a friend and Matt walked pass, and I said, see that dude. And she did. Actually, our first cover of a magazine we ever got was four magazine called the nod. We're not married, but we were on the cover of a wedding magazine and Kim very explicitly gave that whole story. My mom was very excited about. So she sent copies to Mike grandmother to my. And my grandmother in a very Helen cook way was like, it was a very nice story, Honey. The grandma away to stay cool story growth story. So you decide that you're gonna start a band like that's just decision. You're like, let's well it's more of an accident. I went to a show and I was watching the drummer and I was like, man, that looks fun. I wanna do that. So a friend gave me a hand-me-down set and I was just kinda messing around in the bedroom and Matt had this keyboard. He wanted to figure out. So we were just kind of doing it doing it together. And and then a friend forced us to play show and we kept being like, but we're not a band and I don't know. I had a really hard time coming up with the band name, and then they put us down as Matt and Kim, that works fine. So your friend was like you're playing a real real gig? Well, real in the basement of an art gallery to eight friends. It was pretty real tell you, hey, New York City. That was a show on my God. I did that show yesterday. And how do the go people asked us do more shows. So I think, yeah, that's, I mean, so there goes, so then you are just moving forward. You guys do these great videos. I feel like you master. There's a lot of creativity. I mean, clearly illustrator film, right? The background comes into play art school. You know, you got to use it for something. Yeah, inventories, anything getting naked always helps because I, we shot a music video for song called lessons learned right where we took all our clothes off in Times Square and we want to be for it. So like guys naked at all times who who pitched tomb on that idea, how that that was Matt. And I kept saying, no, no way. Also it was February in New York freezing really cold also, I kept my socks on because it's New York. You don't want to run barefoot in New York City now. But at the same time, as many gentlemen know, a man is not the extent of his. Manhood in the freezing cold in Times Square in February. So who was taking the bigger risk? I don't know. Hey, I was on point. So two thousand seventeen. You're playing a gig in Mexico. You jump out on stage and you have a bad fall. Kim, Tori. CO onstage in Mexico. Yes, it's same way I come out on the stage all the time. Jump off the rise. Our lights hit someone moved to stage fan up. So I thought in that second of coming down, I'm gonna struggle because that's what you do. Oh, it was funny because I didn't realize what happened, but it felt like my knee was on fire, and I was like, oh, sweet. We have pyro at the show. Can't usually Flinn. Yeah, I thought I caught on fire but played five songs. Hey, we were there. We're going to do the show. Wow, but but that moment was followed by an hour ambulance ride to the hospital, and then she was put up in a hospital bed IV's xrays all this stuff. And our translator came back and said, your insurance isn't going to cover you here. Probably going to be pretty expensive for all this and he comes back and he's like, it's gonna be about eight thousand dollars, and I was like yet. That probably makes sense. And I was like, wait, those are pesos. It was three hundred bucks for all of that. Like in the states, that would have been a sunk. I would've been bankable. Yeah, go to Mexico. When you wanna get hurt. You're back touring. Have the shows changed a little bit. I don't jump off the riser anymore. Okay. All the time. Not good. I feel like you've learned a lesson well done well done. So you for the first time in a long time because if you're injury, you take time off from touring almost a year. Did it influence your recent album? Almost every day we make an upbeat music. We become from a spirited place. We think that especially when we started out there was a lot of darker music coming out of New York and are seen and whatever. And we're just like, let's just get excited and whatnot. But I do think we made a much more personal in real album. Not just the injury, but of everything that happened last year politically and everything like that. I just was not willing to write daylight again, but I think it's one of the best things I've ever done. We've had. Hi, five. We asked you what you'd like to play a game about, Matt. You told us you love nature, love it, Kim, you told us you fear nature. The area end hate it. Seer game is called how to go outside and not die. I'm going to ask you a multiple choice question about how to survive in the world outside of your apartment ring into answer. If you're wrong, your opponent can steal. You're going to play against each other quick disclaimer. These revival tips being presented are for entertainment purposes. Only. Please consult someone who actually knows what they're talking about before going outdoors. So according to the storm prediction center at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, what should you do? If you're in a car during a tornado, hey, seek shelter under a bridge or overpass be get out of your car in lie down in an area lower than the level of the road or sea. Get out your phone and go live because your followers are going to want this content baby. Kim. God, I want to say, go live, but. Lay down in a ditch, which seem so dumb. Yeah, you are correct. So you to actually encountered a tornado? Yeah, I learned the hard way so we were driving across whatever state is just east of Kansas, which I don't know. We're driving a lot of. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad geography wasn't the topic. So you driving driving through Missouri. As we're approaching truck stop area. We notice all the power goes out and then the rain starts to come down. We're seeing cars pulled to the side. That's weird. I guess we'll keep on going and. So finally, we see a gas station pullover pullover. I've really got a p so we pull into this gas station and the TV says, there is a mile wide tour NATO headed in this direction. At this point I asked someone select is that big. They were not happy with that question. You know, it's saying, do not try to go to your loved ones, stay where you are stay in place, be safe or whatever. We take a look around our surroundings, which is not only a gas station, but is the fireworks warehouse. Giant tin can. Of fireworks and gasoline. Okay. No way we are added here. So we hopped back in the van. And as we're driving, we've let me say nobody's on the highway. We were just cruise. It Lear Salen no traffic. It was great. At which point is said, if you're listening to the broadcast and you're in a car, you should get out and lay in a ditch or something lower than the roadway thought these people on the radio are insane. Stupidest thing I've ever heard. But that's what you did real. We'd Gunda we kept going. A live to tell the story. You know. Which of these is a real safety tip from the National Park Service for dealing with bears on a hike, a carry bags of coffee grounds in your pockets because bears hate the aroma, be if you're attacked by grizzly or Brown, bear play dead. But if you're attacked by a black bear, do not play Dead Sea dressed. The bear in a small red t shirts. So you can see it's cute little tummy. Cam, I love coffee, so I'm gonna go with a coffee grounds. Interesting. I'm sorry that is incorrect according to the Seattle zoo. Coffee grounds are like catnip show. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right, Matt. Can you steal se- seems not so likely so I'm gonna go with b. process of nation. You're right? Yeah, that's right. Around buyer, play dead black, bear, don't play dead. You have to figure out what color the bear is. What do you do? This? Don't play dead me like, do I just like you got to fight. Got to fight the bear. Okay. Let's say you're stranded outdoors and you have to resort to eating bugs. According to popular mechanics, which of these characteristics means that bug is more likely to be poisonous and therefore you should not use. It has a snack a, it's hairy or bright colored be it's very loud or see. It has the ability to smile. Harry and bright colored. Yeah, man, that's correct. If they're Harry, bright colored have more than six legs. They are probably poisonous, apparently crickets grasshoppers are very tasty. Have you tried one? I would rather eat popular mechanics. So you guys were amazing. You did pretty well. I feel like we learned a lot too. Technically, Matt won that round. I'll give it to you. I'll take technicality. But of course you wanna ask me another rubik's cubes because that's that's the whole point. Madam Kim's latest album is called almost every day give it up for Matt and Kim. What our next special guest to play for you follow. Ask me other on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. My next to contestants will play a game where we make up new saints. My favorite Saint is Saint Germain. Let's meet our contestants. First step, Sheila oliveri. You once wrote a funny newspaper column on the hazards of marriage and raising three alien creatures. I did. Hello? Hi. When you ring in, we're gonna hear this. Sheila. Tell me more about this column. You wrote an example of something you wrote about. I wrote about my husband and my three alien creatures that I also call my sons. You know, it didn't go over well with some of the family members. Not my husband. My husband got to okay, everything before I started in, you know, but he has a sister and every time a new one would be published. She'd like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you said that you said he'd can't into the toilet. And I know I didn't say that. I said that he and all three male progeny seem to have questionable aim. Takes a while to learn. That's all. Not that long? Yes, people never master it. Your opponent is Amanda price. You're a grad student at Washington University studying size. Malla, Jackie. Oh, Hello. When you again, we'll hear this. Amanda seismology. The study of earthquakes seems like a growth industry. Yeah, more and more every day. How did you get interested in that particular some? Not from Saint Louis. I'm actually from California and growing up. We had a few of them. I mean. And did you move here because you wanted to? I mean, just get away from this. No, actually I really enjoy. Okay, sure. I look at the Mariana seduction zone, which is the western Pacific which most people only know as the deepest part of the ocean, but I get to travel a lot because we do a lot of field work. And one of the places was Antarctica, which is one of the coolest places to go to most literally and figure. Okay. Remember Sheila Amanda. Whoever has more points after two games. We'll go onto our final round. Let's go to your first game. Saint Louis is named for king Louis. The ninth of France who is the only French king to be made a Saint, not even Louis Vitton. In this game year, inventing new saints by taking words and phrases starting with the letters s. t. and changing those letters to the words Saint. For example, if we said it's the patron Saint of shop where you buy rock containing valuable, minerals you would answer Saint or so you take the word store as clued by shop and change it to Saint or meaning rock containing valuable, minerals. No, it's totally fun. You guys, it's really fun. We're all going to be fine. Okay. Here we go. It's the Saint of an iron and carbon alloy. That's also a slippery snake, like fish. Amanda Saint ill that is right steel saints. It's the Saint for one of the fifty American political regions represented by two federal senators and someone who consumed food. Amanda, Saint eight, eight for state. That's right. That's a good Saint Saint eight one. That's the one you want to be. Your only job is to have eaten a lot of exactly and they're like, well done religious areas. It's the Saint of two violinists of violist and a cellist all who wear finger bling. Sheila Saint ring coretec there you go. Yes. Indeed, Sheila. It's the patron Saint of being afraid to perform for an audience and being afraid of getting old. Sheila. Saint age fright you got, that's right. I feel like that clue is sounds like something someone said to me for four while. Yes, yes, yes. It's the Saint of someone you don't know who lives in Texas loves karate and his name Walker, Sheila, Saint ranger, Texas ranger, Saint ranger stranger. Yes, that is correct. Great game. Sheila is in the lead. Does our show make you feel retroactively less alone in high school, then you should be a contestant on the show, go to AMA tickets, dot org. When we come back, someone will go home a winner, and someone will be fed to a Clydesdale. I'm your Eisenberg, and this is asked me another from NPR. Support comes from Lisa, the mattress with over eleven thousand five star reviews. Andy mission to end bedlow snus in America. The Leesa mattress was designed to provide support and pressure relief to everybody type and sleep style for deeper night's sleep. Lisa plans a tree for every order and donates a mattress for every ten sold get one hundred and twenty five dollars off free shipping and one hundred nights to try. The Leesa mattress go to l. e. s. a. dot com slash NPR. Hey podcast. Listeners joins us for a live taping of ask me another at the bell house, Monday, September seventeenth. Our special guest is civil rights activist and fellow podcast host d'auray McKesson info and tickets at AMA tickets, dot org. Planet money tip number seventeen. A great analogy doesn't have to make sense as you're in a one leg Bob cat covering up. You don't crap on a frozen pond. Just make that up. Clinton money, a poetic podcast about the economy. From the pageant in Saint Louis. This is NPR's asked me another. I'm Jonathan Colton. Now here's your host. Fear Eisenberg. Jonathan. Before the break we met our contestants, Sheila and Amanda up. Next, we've got a literary game that is off the rails called crazy twain. It's a game designed to upset authors and Rockstars everywhere by combining heavy metal and heavy hitting literature. But first, let's check in with our contestants, Sheila, you enter the national chicken cooking contest I did with a made up recipe. Yes. Okay, very much. So how'd it go? I got a phone call one day during those dark stay at home, mom years, and. The person on the other line of the phones. And congratulations. You've been chosen to represent state of Missouri in the national chicken cooking contest. And I replied, did no one else enter. And she was a little upset about that. Yeah, sure. So what was your made up recipe would involve basically was everything that will stop your heart all in one. And how did the judge is like is why didn't win? But I do have a silver plate bowl with my name and Missouri engraved in the side and this lovely hideous shade of green sash that proclaims me the Missouri chicken cooking contest Representative. Amanda. You Bizet Antarctica last year. So I mean, I have never been give me something that stood out to you. I got delayed for about two and a half weeks, and when you're there for thirty days to try and get stuffed on is a long time. And so we've been delayed two and a half weeks. We just get delayed delayed into laid. And finally, we get this call and they say, we have a plane, but you have to leave right now. And we're just like trying to hurry and everything. So excited to go out in the field and our show driver goes, you're delayed. We're going to have to hang out at the airfield. We have a meta BAC coming from south pole and our whole field seasons kind of gone to not. But it's kind of, okay, because we save buzz Aldrin's life. So I just wanna say Audran if you're listening, I love you. Thank you for getting me into science, but you only a plane. Your next game is a music parody game about Mark Twain and the points are doubled, Sheila. You're in the lead, stay in lead and you were in the final round Amanda. You need to get more points or we will feed you to a Clydesdale. We weren't joking about that. We are in Saint Louis. Mark Twain's childhood home is just north of here. So we changed the lyrics of the Ozzy Osbourne's crazy train. To be about things associated with Mark Twain and we call this game crazy twain. And I must tell you honestly, that the title of the game is the primary reason that the game. Just ring into, tell me what I'm singing about you. We go. Here we go crazy. Use my real name. Something kitschy creases. That shows this. I was born. First and last name. Sheila Samuel Clemens. Clements is correct. Earning. Learn to this. Standing. Shula a riverboat a riverboat is the answer. Song is very high. Everybody. I'm getting hazard pay for it though, so don't worry get paid extra when it's hot. Without this thing. Bushy. Amanda. Thing in the sky. Came back. Would. The way began. The smell snow. Ended must pay. Sheila Haley's comet? That's right. The Healy's comes round the earth every seventy five years, including the year. Mark Twain was born eighteen thirty five, Mark Twain predicted that he would die when it came back. He did. Maybe he's an illusion who came from the planet Haley's comet, the dropped him off my rights coming back around. Until then I'm going to be the most cool person of. Probably gonna grow one of those mustache. Does your last clip. Nasty. The tobacco. Smoke so much stash smell black. These. Amanda cigarette, cigar cigarette cigar is being that's correct. He didn't say the size. You're absolutely right. Fear. How our Justice doing this game after two games, Sheila. Congratulations. You're moving onto our final round. Well, clear and Sheila get ready for the final round. It's time for us to play a game. This is called fact bag. We have up cycled a Chinooks grocery store bay. And filled it with trivia questions. Jonathan. I do not know the answers to these. So I'm gonna pick out one. Every question is written on an envelope. I'll read a question. Jonathan, I will discuss then I'll open up the envelope and find out the real answer. Here we go. I fact bag fact Budweiser is headquartered in Saint Louis, and it's I con is the Clydesdale horse according to the company standards, how much must Clydesdale way to be eligible to become an official Budweiser Clydesdale I don't think you should be judging horses in this way. Yeah, making them feel bad. Imagine if you're a giant Clydesdale but you're not big enough to be an official Budweiser. Is it big enough it or is it a certain size? What if you're very large, but particularly hollow clydes. That's right. Where do you fit him? What if you've got a dead body for Clydesdale you know what? If you're I'm working on it, I don't appreciate. What's the horse way? One hundred pounds. One hundred hundred hundred fifty. How many of me would you say fit in the Clydesdale? I would say seven. Colton HS seven. Colton clydes seven or eight Colin's I think there about a thousand pounds, regular horses thousand pounds. Yeah, I'm guessing. Okay. Yeah. And so a Clydesdale deuce. Three hundred, thirteen hundred pounds hundred pounds. And then what is Budweiser want from their clydesdales? They want they want ones with the beer belly, right? They want ones that look like they've had some product. Fifteen hundred. How about that? Fifteen hundred. Let's see what we don't know what we're talking about. Oh interesting between eighteen hundred and two thousand three hundred. For context, the average horse weighs about a thousand pounds. Other calls the cases to become a Budweiser Clydesdale. They must be at least six feet tall and at least four years old. And also quote, four, white stockings, a blaze of white on the face, a black mane and a black tail seems like a lot of rules. I feel very uncomfortable with all of that body shaming. Versus all right. Here we go Saint Louis where Lewis and Clark's expedition began. When Thomas Jefferson sent them out to scout the Louisiana territory, he secretly hoped they bring back proof of the existence of what single payer healthcare. A good guess. They're going onto the woods. They wanted to find out what was there. They're going to uncharted territory, so like a monster like right, like Bigfoot, big Bigfoot a myth or like, oh, go pogo or something. What's Ohka pogo. Ohka pogo is like the the Loch Ness monster of the Okinawa in British Columbia. I feel like big foot is not a bad, really big foot. All right foot. I living mastodon American mastodons went extinct about ten thousand years ago. Thomas Jefferson collected mastodon bones and even lay them out on the White House floor mister president. Jefferson thought mastodons could still be alive and wow, presidents have been crazy forever. Jefferson thought Macedonia could still be alive in wanted to prove to Europe that America had big majestic animals. That you're. Like to say Hello to my living mastodon. Eight, two thousand fourteen study published in the journal frontiers of zoology, revealed that dogs react to the earth's magnetic field in what way? Can they smell magnets? No, actually I've smelled a magnet before in my house. I lay out all my magnets. And then I smell each one. My magnets bigger than Europe. So what about magnetic field? They lie down. That's why they circle because they're trying to find the Trinite fine. But you know what? That's a good idea. What if it is something about the direction? Like what if they lie down in the direction of magnet of that's perfect spin around till they feel it right? That's why they go round and round and round. And that's actually they get it. It's my follow. The knows noses, north, true north, okay. Let's see. Dogs tend to align their bodies along a north south access that lines up with the earth nag netted field right. Right. Oh, when their pooping. Researchers at the Czech university of life sciences in Prague observed one thousand eight hundred ninety three defecation ze l. of a summer jobs. This. That's all the facts. We have time for today. Thanks, back-back. Thanks. It's time to crown our big winner. Let's bring back our finalists. Clear Hubert who got into French for the friendship and Sheila all very, who represented Missouri in the national chicken cooking contests. Clear Sheila. Your final round is called arch nemesis. Saint Louis is most famous landmark is of course the gateway arch. Every answer in this final round contains the consecutive letters a. r. c. h. although they may or may not be pronounced arch. For example, if I said this for mentored milk product is named after an English village in Somerset, you dancer cheddar cheese. The consecutive letters, a RCA appear at the end of chatter, and it's the beginning of cheese. Yeah, let it sink in. Our big winner will receive an asthma. The rubik's cube signed by Matt and Kim that is also covered in melted prevail. Cheese. We ruled a twenty sided die. Backstage and Sheila is going. I here we go, Sheila mies van der Rohe, Frank, Lloyd Wright, and Mike Brady all-share. This profession architect that is correct. Claire Louis Leakey Gertrude bell and Indiana Jones. All share this field of study archaeology. That is correct. Sheila. It's the building in Washington DC where nNcholas cage went to steal the declaration of independence, the national archives that is correct. Claire. Argo is a popular brand of this white powdery food product commonly used to thicken sauces cornstarch. Yeah, that's right. According to a recent piece in the New York Times this butterfly distinguished by its orange and black colors recently experienced large population decline monarch that is correct Claire. This term describes a scattered. Group of islands in the same body of water and Archipegalo. I didn't say that right at all. Yeah, we're gonna go with archipalago that one. That one. That's what I'm Sheila h. Jon Benjamin voices Bob, and Bob's burgers also voices. The title character in this animated TV show. Three seconds chain. I'm sorry, that is incorrect. We were looking for Archer Claire. He's the protagonist of TV's Riverdale Archie. That is correct. The halfway point clear is in the lead four to three, Sheila Leah, show cod stars in this TBS comedy about friends who are looking for someone three seconds. Search party the name of the show. Wow, that makes sense. Glared the company I heart media, which owns operates more than eight hundred and fifty radio stations in the United States was previously known by this name three seconds. Clear channel. Sheila according to legend, the exclamation Eureka was shouted by this ancient Greek mathematician Archimedes. That is correct Claire in the hunger games films, Philip Seymour Hoffman played a character named after this ancient Greek author who wrote parallel lives and morale, Lia Plutarch. That is correct. Okay. Here's a situation Clair's in the lead. We each have one question left, Sheila. You need to get this question right to stay in the game. Sheila dating back to ancient times. This paper like writing material was made from animal skin parchment. That is correct clear if you get this right, you win. Miriam Webster defines this as absence of government, anarchy that is correct. Break game, Sheila. You are Jim. Thank you. And congratulations player. Your big winner. That's our show. Asked me another house news, Jonathan, Colton. Nanograms took out cannon are puzzles will written by Carolee and senior writers, Eric Feinstein, Karen, Lori, and Jacob. Van strengthen with additional material by inter Jackson and Emily winter. Our senior supervising producer is Rachel. 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Ep 163. Holidays that Could Have Been Disasters... but Weren't!

Not Another Anxiety Show

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Ep 163. Holidays that Could Have Been Disasters... but Weren't!

"Uh-huh. Hey, guys. Welcome to not another anxiety show on your host Kelley Walker. And joining me today's my co-host from the BBB broad dot com. Air Kulefa m-. Hey, lady two weeks in a row. I'm lucky. Everyone cancel is that why now at all? Guests that have like actual degrees. Things to say. No around by the way, that you gave me like a false start made me laugh. I'm like choking back laughter. Right now. You're ready. No, wait. False start like in swimming. We both did swimming. What's more mortifying than that? When you. A quick quick aside. Very quick. Okay. Once upon a time the one and very only time told the story before I did the butterfly. I was nine years old. Never forget it. How and. Yeah. Yeah. Like the Olympic training camp over here. Anyway, nine years old. It was the dog days swim meet in Delmar, New York, and I had actually beat my personal record which at nine years old zero times. And but the problem was qualified even though I beat my PR because I thought I heard a false start thing it stood up. And my dad will never let the story. Beat my record both disqualified, and that's why I don't do sports anymore because I was I was wounded at nine years old, right? And you would think like that's like a hinder. The fact that you stopped like that should really count toward your time. Like you stop everybody. Just kept going come on those very healing, dismayed because breath. My dad my dad thirty years. It's been like remember the time you stood up on your nine years. Dummy. Why? Arna right. Well, what's new? Hey, go. We I know listen, you can't be mad at at this out. But once in a while, we have sponsor we've had don't tell me. What was the sponsor? We just had aid app lemonade. That's right. I know it's pretty cool. But we are in a really great position. Please earlier is I know that you don't want to do this. But we're in a really good position makes me sweat too. I know makes you because you're not one to plug the show, but I want to show badly. We are in a really awesome position with the amount of listeners that we have right now to offer this even more broadly. But to do that we need a couple of sponsors. And we want to have really good like really well thought out sponsors, but it's like chicken and egg thing. So I we need our awesome amazing listeners to engage with us a little bit you need to send out a survey. Or you're going to send out a survey. I'm going to send out a survey. It is a core question. Multiple choice survey simply grabbed one second. Yeah. Yeah. It's like how old are you? What do you make you don't have to put your name phone number Email, nothing? I did it in like a second. And I'm gonna put it on the Instagram. I know the some because we we don't like doing this or it's feels like pampering or something we're not that's not we we just wanna make sure that we have really thought out sponsors in order to do that we need to know who you guys are so Kelly's. Send out that survey. It's going to be in her newsletter. If you don't are not under newsletter sign up what panicking anxiety, which dot com or. You can sign up right there or or not another anxiety show. You can take that. And and it really will help us. We aren't a great position where our reach ability is great, and this will really kind of expanded like exponentially. And so I know no one wants to hear a thirty second ad. But that's all we'll ever we're not we make you listen to a two minute ad in the middle of the show. I don't wanna listen to it. So after a lot of careful consideration, it's just something. We would like add in and again ads are can feel a little bit like a necessary evil, but they can help with that find ability, and we will do our best to make it as painless as possible. Short and sweet we wanna make sure because everyone is than so kind and supportive about podcast. And there's so many folks out there that we know would love to listen to us that we just need a little extra push to help find us. So anyway, so now that you're going to absolutely edit that out, but. This thing. And I was thinking of our Instagram to on you release some the survey. So yeah, there will be a Lincoln the show notes. I will remember actually let me write that down right now. It'll be a Lincoln notes. Your house is nothing. But post it notes of reminders of things it is my phone has like fifty on them right now. One of them's like water the Christmas tree because I won't remember. I just lo- is shot speaking of Christmas tree. And speaking of the episode, I love this episode already. Yes. It just so happens that the stars have aligned in a way where the next few episodes will include a lot of guest appearances and the next few topics by these guests tend to be a little more on the fun. Fact, my favorite and practical application. Haitian side. So today, we're going to have fun. It's like when the teacher comes in, you know, don't messing around here number when they used to bring in like, a your old as me they bring in like a TV with VCR knew it was gonna be lit. And if on a child, it would literally crush them top heavy as crazy jumper or whatever those cables are anyway, they weren't so substitute teacher. I love these episodes. We talk about some heavy stuff you and I talk about some. But this is the stuff that is the day to day. Will you tell everybody? What? Yeah. So you know, it's an honor beans literally smack dab in the middle of the holiday season. Right. We're going to we're going to share some holiday mishaps that could have easily turned into disasters. But surprisingly didn't. And we're here to give hope because we know holidays don't often look like, a hallmark movie. Whether whether it's because you're in the middle of anxiety storm or. You've lost someone or you're just feeling black. You know, we're here, you're not alone. And if your holiday doesn't play out perfectly like that cheesy. Hallmark movie that I'm still gonna wash leader doesn't mean. It doesn't mean you want at the very least have either a good story to share sorta like the ice castle ones. We've shared oil. One of my favorite, or, you know, valuable life lesson to learn I know again, I know holidays can be heavy and weird. And they've they've been different for me since like losing, my parents and starting my own family. It's it's a transition period. And I'll say some of my most grief-stricken holidays ended up being I dunno. Some of my more transformative phases, like still, really awesome. It is still really hard where you'll like this Christmas is supposed to look like this is garbage. But also these weird little moments of peace or recognition of. Oh, hey, like, I think I need a little more support or hey, I'm really authentically grateful like jeez. I'm not alone. This is wonderful. And so there are this. There are these opportunities for like life lessons or seeing things in a newer way. Or again, just a really good story if everything just ghost pot. Sometimes it's like that those comedy of errors can really make us wanna go a little little bullets, my favorite, those are my favorite story. So like, that's why the ice councils one's my favorite. You actually when you one through some stuff couple of years ago, pretty heavily unite talked extensively, and I remember you saying like, this isn't the way Christmas supposed to feel and I feel like that's what we all. Do is. We're searching for that smell or that feel that what from the one time the child. Yeah. I didn't got that present we wanted so bad. Christmas albums for me. It's. Kenny Rogers -tupid Christmas album from like the eighties. You know? It's you know, just that sound of that. Right. He notes of a song in. We do. We always do it. But oh my God. We have the best stories. Do you wanna go first? Okay. I can go. I I I I'm like pumped about it. Because I don't think I can't remember the last time a holiday happen without some kind of mishap. I really either in all on like full disclosure. I can't remember like out of the last four five years. I went when we chatted about covering this topic. I was like I haven't had like one of those traditional child. No. Because it's never got sick. I would challenge anyone to and we would love to hear your stories, by the way, this is my favorite thing on the planet earth. I will read them around the Christmas table. Yeah. After like, seventy five. Spike, spike. Yes. Absolutely. Because it's his Christmas. But yeah, we would love to hear the Email Instagram, Facebook, whatever. But that's we wanted to kind of lighten this up. So these are I'm sure they're very traumatic moments that make things not not feel like the holidays, but we're we're aiming for like possibly a little more humor. What ended up being a little more? Reflective humorous humorous now. Right. So now, my my first story is like last Christmas started mine month long stay in hospital for prenatal complications like. Snowstorm how to drive there? And it started this, you know, surprisingly long hospital. Stay and it's like really need. I say more. But let's say I'm like, please stating you should see my living room. It looks like Christmas box grew up all over it. So i'm. Dot was like, actually, Chris. It was Christmas. Yeah. Like we cancelled Christmas plans with my mother-in-law. And you know, I was pretty bitter and pretty like, I don't know a little envious of other this Christmas. Most the luck leg in a hospital, and I will say like I would really rather never spend Christmas in a hospital again like I don't want to sugar coat it. But there was something a little unique about spending my time with other people that were so kindly dedicating. You know, their their service, right? Like working Christmas day, even though they had families, and and still not even being a humbug about it like being known being kind making sure that I could feel as good as I could like on Christmas day that was just not how anyone wants to spend Christmas. No, no, I have to my best friends are nurses, and one of the marks in an emergency department one of the works and infectious disease and they both consistently were holidays. And they don't even think about it. It's just they're so simple. Yeah. I'm sure they make a little bit more than God, you know, and they showed. But I gotta tell you like more power to them. But yeah, doubt that. Yes. That was so like, you know, had all I had all these Christmas presents waiting for everybody. And of course, Christmas is all about presence. I wanted mine and I mean it's about giving generosity. But I was like. My presence, man. Oh, I should also say that, you know, like hallmark movies that always have some sort of plot twist where you know. Oh, the the the presence don't arrive and my flights delayed, and you have to spend it or you have to spend it in a hospital, and there's always some sort of like magical moment where you have the realization that life is. Okay. I don't think you had that necessarily on Christmas day upon reflection. Yeah. Like. Yeah. No. I'm going to be honest. Nothing was pretty magical about it. And none of us. Do I think I want things? Go wrong. All of all of us are like, where's the moment where it starts to snow, and there's you know, the carolers come night. No. I'm not saying that like never happens when those moments don't sneak their way in, but you know, it's an and I think it's a little bit of comfort to know, if you're not feeling that little silver lining magical moment. It's okay. It doesn't mean there won't be something to draw from it. Like, honestly, this this whole experience in the hospital. There were a lot of things I was able to learn and discover and draw from and kind of bring into my life now like one of the things was feeling incredibly supported while. I was there and. I realized that had been lacking for some time after my parents died like that big support and was just ripped away. So it it helped me realize. Wow. Look at how many friends and family are like showing up for me. And you know, I really wanna make sure I invest and these connections in the support. And I mean, it's it's made all the difference for for life. So it doesn't mean you'll feel these magical moments in the thick of it. But it doesn't mean there won't be a takeaway after you know, we tend to be pretty resilient in that way where we can kinda grow. Or at least look for the opportunities of growth. We didn't episode called post traumatic growth with Ken foam way back when. Yeah. When we're ready. We can we can kind of reflect on what what did we learn what we wanna stand for sort of in the face of this really challenging thing. Because you know, I think we want the holidays to be insulated from challenging things. But it's just like any other day, like we're Justice susceptible to challenges and Hartwell, and this goes back even to our conversation about expectations like my favorite thing to do is like to remind everyone like let's just lower now lower expectations. But let's just have a reality. Check that is normal the Christmas for a lot of people who celebrate Christmas or any other holiday. It's just a normal day of the week. So I celebrate Christmas. It's on a Tuesday, you know, and it's Tuesday for a lot of people, and then Wednesday is gonna come the day after even if it's like feeling like garbage. Or how about one minute after you wake up because that's how long it takes to open presence is like. Right. Thinks giving or whatever holiday there's a build up or your birthday, there's build up forever. And then it's over in forty five seconds so fast. I know. While you're a one upper miss. My joy was ripped away. From me mines minor significantly less sewer. My father my following. Well, much more light hearted. But I couldn't help. But think of like that's like the biggest holiday mishap I've ever had. And it wasn't it really wasn't fun. But it also wasn't whenever I imagined myself in the hospital, I imagined myself like absolutely terrorized like really, I did just wasn't it. Just I mean, it was more like slacks Christmas. At least there's free cozy shack putting our eight. For christmas. Oh. I was it was it was it was okay. And then more Christmas just goes one Christmas garbage. Does. That's the thing. You know on holiday one hundred whatever whatever elebrate or don't celebrate. Right. Like, it's it's just well, I have a friend. Let's just keep this in the very depressed mood, but I I have a friend who lost her her family like almost family on Christmas day years ago is a car accident. And so she celebrates. All holidays put together celebrates Halloween like Halloween is her because it's. Yeah. Right. You know, exactly. Like, ju whatever you need to do like truly sometimes holidays are kinda get through. And what's my favorite? What's that quote that I love it's like I've said this many times, but it it's either Ramdas or Dalai Lama somebody said if you think you're enlightened go home for the holidays holidays. Yes alike. Not that were big fan of like, you know. What do you say pushing through white knuckling through? But sometimes you need to just say safe and sane sometimes this it's just like we've had him to Tina we've had them take care of yourself. And just because it's not like a holiday, maybe you'd want it to want it to look like it just doesn't it doesn't mean that the next one or the one after right won't be different or can't walk and just sometimes sometimes it just it's like chock it up to rough year. And you like well did it. We'll we did it. Well, learn what we and see what might help us. You know, enjoy the holiday season more next year. Like for me is Christmas Eve used to be this huge thing in my family like really it was almost like too much stand. And I I have have since learned. It's like, wow. I don't think I want it to be quite that big. I think maybe a little lower key. Like, I don't know that it needs to look that way. I don't know about it ever could you know, trying to recreate the. How sokolje just checking in with ourselves in like, hey, you know, what might work for me, especially the right like what might work for me this year? Right. Exactly. So mine are slightly different. Let me start with one from on the in. I feel like this is in the. Year of our Lord nineteen. I don't know when this was I have no idea what this was. But I was old enough to drink. That's all I know and. Yeah. So this is, you know, my grandparents lived across the street, we invited a great aunt over. We had a kind of a black sheep cousin who was coming over. None of us wanted engage with. I it was I think one of the first Christmas that I cooked. You know, I'm kind of a. And I'm kind of a. Or you don't know what you're a what? I'm not not a chef. But anyway, so I was really pumped to cook. In like, do this whole thing to like start my own holiday traditions and. I made. This Paula Deen's corn bread stuffing. I'll never forget it because it has sixty five ingredients, and I make this whole huge batch of this in this glass pyrex thing, and I was cooking. Like one hundred things of once. I take the pirates out of the oven. I put it on the stole to cool off while I I didn't realize that the burner was still hot or still on. And you can't put pyrex glass pyrex on burner because it literally literally explode, and I mean like the matrix bullets. I wearing at the time when I did this. I was wearing a bathrobe and later that day I found this huge Sharda glass in my bathrobe pocket. The armor that my bathroom, right? I can't believe it in like take an eye out. So that happened so everything explodes. I have to throw the Turkey away. Every class goes anywhere near food it kinda shards just pull out the one reading food. Ply. We're having Chinese. I don't remember what we did. Actually. Oh my God. It didn't matter. This is the second part of the story though. So I'm upset about this right as my family's coming in. To celebrate my grandparents show up my great aunt shows up who currently has bones made of the same pyrex because she slipped and fell and broke her arm stoop walking into our house. So my parents have to whisk her way to the emergency room, my grandparents go with her own my grandmother went with her and my grandfather who had like sixty five Manhattan's is there and my black sheep cousin. My sister so much just look at each other. Like, this is the worst Christmas ever. And I don't I have no idea what we did next. But I remember, I don't know. Well resilient. We are right. Like. Can't remember my sister? And I looked at each other. Like, should we make whiskies hours, and we did and drank them, and then ended up playing the piano all night. I remember that part. But I don't remember like the food didn't matter, but we survive somehow and every once in a while if something goes awry at holiday, we'll look at each other like. Because now the time. My next door is actually very similar to that. It's laid. Yeah. Few a few years ago. We got a huge nor'easter the day before thanksgiving because that happens and lost power. And literally the moment we lost power was the same moment. I was opening up the oven door to put to pumpkin pies into. So I mean, you can't understand the magnitude of this disaster because you don't understand how highly my family values pumpkin pie like really, well, and let me just say pumpkin pies. Like a whole thing. You can't make out pumpkin pie. And that turns out you always have to make to. Yeah. And six years this house at least an hour. Right. Yeah. And then it has to call it like a certain humidity. Whole thing's crack composed. All right, but I love pumpkin pie. And the funny thing is like I still had enough pumpkin pie mix, and you know. Shallow crust to do one the next day? And I went to put the one lone remainder pumpkin pie. I dropped it. I dropped inside. It's at my mom's because she got power and I hadn't yet. And it's just like schmear everywhere the league team because it does. We're just MIR's. Oh, I think like half of it was still in the cross. Then I was like, well, I guess we're baking this. So for dessert were all eating this like sliver of pumpkin pie. Pumpkin scented cross. It's it's exactly. And it's funny giving me side is saying, it's okay. But it's obviously I forget the pumpkin pie and thinking about cleaning that up. Oh, oh, yeah. Counting cleaning this up. I'm like, I know. Relax. Mom, relax. I got it. I got it. Don't worry. I meant to grow the pumpkin pie obvious them. So each had this like more soul of pumpkin pie. And you know, it turns out you can have an okay thanksgiving without copious amounts of pumpkin pie. I think we went out and played ball after and everybody wasn't like stuff to the course. So we were able to actually move around. What a concept, I know our pants and sit there motionless for hours. I know I'll be we went overboard this year thanksgiving. But right. So I don't know we we're doing sub is going to do the one that may be the most proud which was this here this so the second thanksgiving dinners open over on like ready to buy Christmas tree. I am Yemi town one of the let's go to the next day. We're going the second the first leaf falls off a tree I like all about Christmas music. I'm one of those jerks. You know, everybody hates me about it. But here. My girlfriend go with me because she came up after thanksgiving. I'm like we're going to get this tree suck it up. And I have these really tall ceilings in my apartment. Like, let's see I live in an old school. So I'm like I want to twelve foot tree like I've got room to spare. Let's do it and say, oh my God. I know and she's really tall. So she sixty toss. I'm like, I want to view like give me this trait. So we go, and I am I'm so great to shop with I'm going to my own horn. Because I know exactly what I want. Yes. I see it from a distance. I'm like that one. Put it on the car. Don't care how much get do it. You know, I I don't shop around. I don't daily dally. I don't nine times. We've weeded whole episode on my decisiveness. Like, I always make that decision because I don't like I don't look for deals. I don't I'm just like put on the car. Let's go we do put on the car. We'd strap it down we go to my -partment. We put it in. I already have the stand ready to go put it, you know, we like sling it up there tightened in the thing. I put the lights on like, all right? Let's go shopping. So we go we did a bunch of other stuff. Come back. Put Norman ornaments on let her touch anything some terrible. Putting everything on and she sitting there. She's like I kinda liked this tree because and there was no other way to say this, but it was a little crooked. So it was like a cute tree. And we're as well. It's like it's not a tree anyway. So I'm sitting there, and I'm like look like it's leaning, but it felt like kinda straight on the bottom. Whatever we go to bed. We come back. We wake up the next morning. I'm doing work. That's not looking so hot, you know. And all the ornaments from like, my mom there. My, you know, my good bulbs. My good ball, my good balls. And here comes it toppled. Right. The heck over all the water when the whole thing, you know. And I fished I hear it happening. And I just there's no way to stop it. Yeah. It's like, you know, and my girlfriend comes from the other room. She what? So upset for me. I'm just looking at it like a, you know, shoot. What are you gonna do kinda hike? It back up put back on the stand in. She starts working on like a rope to tolerate and she so upset so last everywhere. There's needles everywhere. It's wet sticky. You know, and I'm just like the stinks man like really stinks. But it's just a treat, and I sort of had this like reflective moment. See they they sneak due to see sometimes they just like it's like a little moment of Coney Najib, they seek there. Those reflective moments. I think it's because like thank goodness that I've had this anxiety struggle. Because of that I able to look at times when I weirdly calm ago. I just said that I didn't think I had right? A new skill set. We tree up, you know. And I was so proud of myself the way that the lights and all the plugs. Run seems to the tree and whatever. Anyway, I have a picture this up in scrim, but. I was weirdly common. I was like, yeah. It's a bummer. Like, I lost this really cute ornament desire snowman that my mom had gotten me, and it was from Ireland whatever, and and I'm bummed out about it. But truly like it's it is just worn amounts and some of the might have been a little pricey, but in that stinks. But here we are and poor. Katie my girlfriend was like what are we gonna do? It's fine. And she has no Strug. She doesn't understand my struggle. She's like Andy she has no clue like what the anxiety struggle. She has. She's like, I don't truly don't understand the struggle. But it was like so upsetting for her. And I'm like everybody does this. Everybody has a thing yet. We all get caught we all get caught in those anxious. Stressful reactive thoughts. We all do it. We all do it. We also all get on podcasts. Insult your dad. Interested. I'm sorry. I don't I don't really take personal. It's okay. Wasn't like a derogatory she's going to. No, I'm not. Wasn't. No, it's okay. You know? Did you get another tree already know? You know, what it was fine trees fine, and it looks. All right. Good the lights were a little skewed. But I kinda like it. Okay. My little crooked tree. My my trees crooked as well. We just didn't put it in a STAN correctly. And I'm like everything's already. Just high it just high something wherever the opposite waits leaning jump rope. Die stole from the YMCA. Just you know. Just you know. And we hooked it onto something that is equally on stable. So I'm guidance every day, I'm like hope it in the hope it made it. Every day risk. You take. Yeah. Every day. She doesn't ask me how I'm doing like as a tree up like s. Together. Anyway. All right. You're my last one. Yeah. My last one is actually about 'em. This thanksgiving, we traveled to Florida. We took our first plane ride with with the twins to visit my brother and his family for thanksgiving. And I was so excited. Like, I was so looking forward to this because again last holiday season, I was super pregnant just getting sick the one before I put my dog down forty eight hours before then skipping the one before that my mom had died a month. You know before it was just this bad. You know, this bad string of luck. A few holidays in a row where it was the, you know. You know, this doesn't have to be pretty type thing. Like, I just need to survive this. It's all right. And that's as good as it gets. So this one felt like, you know, I'm I'm not pregnant no one's recently dead like newly ready so excited. So when you say stuff like that, it's you know, it felt finally this lightness to the Holiday Inn like years, and so, you know, the morning relieving, I'm like my stomach feels weird. I'm like, I guess it could just be anxious from flying. I mean, maybe, but I really don't feel anxious, and I just kind of chalked it up to that. But it turned out it was like mild, but still like how make bug and I know and the thing is let's you'll quiz even when he said, yes, I love anxiety. The funny thing is like five six years ago. Literally, my worst nightmare would be having a stomach bug on a plane like I really couldn't think of anything more horrifying like that was my purse. Personal. And honestly, it was so I had the stomach bug for a few days flying down in Florida, the girls cold the day, we left, and of course, it is later like I was looking forward to this. But I was just like to exhausted. I was like whatever like Limoges a bite of stuffing and a bite of Turkey, like whatever. And it was funny. How I just thought I would have been a lot more disappointed. But it was just like. I don't know maybe a little bit of like survival mode. Like, I just got a drink my water intake your girl. Visit my family as long as I can. And I started to feel better towards the end. So we had we did have some fun and good enjoy like, you know, the seventy five degree weather. But it was just it was kinda comical, you know, really, I think that's the way life works. I'm like that's like four five. Thanks giving in row, and I'm like maybe expecting things to go without a hitch. Just like, maybe that's really unrealistic. I'm revisiting speculation. And yet. Well, you even have your expectations are like I would love to have a Turkey dinner. Yeah. Yeah. Like with my husband even. I think next year for especially thanksgiving for you. We should have like a big game of what could possibly go wrong, you know. And then if you win on all Szenja coupon for deposits pizza. Just thinking, maybe I'm not the only one with a. With crap happening around the holidays. I think that is just sort of the way of things if I've humid just and I'm sort of curious to know like we don't tell the story like if you had flown in July or whatever in any other month and the same series of events happened. Would you be telling the story like this? Or is it just because it was around thanksgiving. We have built up so like the expectation. Yes. Almost like, it's more. Crabby? It's yeah. It's it's it's more of a potential disaster. Because it happened at the holiday, right? Like, it's. Yeah. It same. Like if your flight gets delayed the day before thanksgiving that feels so much more disastrous than if it gets delayed on Tuesday, July. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I have to be home for this holiday. I all right. I have to be at this place. I need to have these things or these feel right? It's sort of like, we kinda think handle the. Yeah. That's the whole point of this up. So my last one is sort of related to this. And it's not really like a disaster story, but I actually had a different story. And I thought of this this morning because it came up on my like, what is it time hop or whatever it is on Facebook a picture from nine years ago of the TV tiny little never forget this target Christmas tree that was I ten inches tall yet that I put in my hotel room because I wasn't allowed. I was I traveled for work. I worked on a catastrophe team. So I traveled, and I was in Georgia, and we weren't allowed to travel on. We weren't allowed to take time off around the holidays. Because if a disaster happens disaster doesn't take time off right? So we got Thanksgiving Day off we would fly wherever if we were deployed we would fly X giving warning filed thanksgiving night. Fly back to our. Place of they called it. The placement. They'd fight flies back twice. I was in Georgia. I would fly home thanksgiving morning, which is a nightmare, by the way, you're better off not going. But the only day that our company thought was important enough, regardless of what was going on in the world, you should have Thanksgiving Day off. So I spent several Christmases kind of away and. I have this picture of his tiny tiny Christmas tree lit up with the tiniest little ornaments from target, and I'll never forget going with my co worker, and we thought it was like the best thing. Decorate our hotel rooms with lights and stuff, and I was younger. So I don't think I was so bummed, right? Yeah. Still a bummer. But what was cool was that? We were there together. I think we went to a bar. You know, we just had like dinner, and it was like, you know, there's a sense of camaraderie, and we just let go of the expectation of believe, I'm not home. Right for those little magical Christmas moments where you do fail connected. Even if it's not it's not the same. But it wasn't like the hallmark movie. It was very sort of mundane. But that little tree in taking the it was like my own version of self care to take the time to like decorate it was like. Wow. And I remembered like dimming the lights I love I love Christmas. Never been different lights and just sorta laying on little, you know, residents in scratchy love, see and looks at this is my Christmas, you know. And and thinking at the time this way before he got sticky for me. But remember thinking like I'm going to have a story, you know, when? And why that was important, and I don't know there was a tiny moment of reflection that, but it was a little bummer. I wasn't home. But I'll send you this picture of the street was like the little thing. And I sent it today to a couple friends in Everett was like, that's the saddest thing. I don't feel about it. Actually, I feel like I great Christmases before Christmas after anyway, it's funny. We because our house was under construction last Christmas with them by God that's with everything as well. So we got one of those like probably one to two foot fake tree from writing same thing. And it's funny because for me I came to associated so closely with like pre eclampsia in being sick. We we got rid of we went to the dump the other week and I threw away that Christmas. I'm like. See that's your self hear myself care like if else so good not to see that thing garage in the dumpster anymore, and the Indies do you want to put this like in the kitchen? I'm like, Nope. Like that thing was five dollars. And I don't want look at it. Like, it's. And you don't need to hold onto that, you know. So but last year, you know, it was my form. Again, my house was like completely dust rated those like two rooms that weren't very small rooms upstairs. And it was like my way of, you know, making this Christmas where I could like barely or move from pregnancy. It was just like us my way of bringing a little bit of self care. A little bit of Christmas spirit to to a not typical time. Yeah. Oh, I love that not typical atypical. Yes. Knob into it. Yeah. So fast. And I think the feeling that we're all going for that seven year old Christmas. You know, we try to recreate the, smells and the sense and stuff and the exact opposite is exactly what you're talking about. So you you're trying to get rid of that association without little tree so bad. You know, I had a comforter winnings. Idiot released key for me. And I was in bed like stuck in bed. I got rid of that comforter. So once I cleared out of that. And I moved and like, I got new bedding emotional, clutter goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. Though. Yeah. That's my favorite things that clear week says, she's like, listen, if every time you look at something like initiates, very visceral sponsor like you can put that if it's a chair you can put that chair away. I think so often we try to kind of push through. And it's okay, it's okay. To kind of care for ourselves in a way that includes just you know. Removing the motion clutter. It's it's all right. We have plenty of other opportunities to work with anxiety. It doesn't mean we're voiding. It means we're showing ourselves a little bit of caring. We'll maybe that's what new resolution for me 'cause I'm leaving from resolutions. But never stick. But never resolution, but just you and me let's make a new like holiday thing. Let's do one emotional declutter self-care thing as our new expectation for the holidays. Like, if you go to, you know, we're gonna be spending time at my grandmother's house, and that's you know, there's a lot of history in triggering stuff. They're emotionally decluttering making time for self care on those days pick one thing. And then you tell me, and I'll tell you and then for listeners, let us know. Right. In tells what you're gonna emotionally declutter wait, where do we add something else for them to motion declutter? What else your holiday stories holiday stories? I love hearing holiday stories. I think we're all doing. And you know, I think we're all alone in thinking that we're the only ones that have this challenging hard grief ridden holiday. And it's I think it's just so much more common. Where it doesn't look like the hallmark movies incredibly calming. It doesn't dismiss the trauma that you're going through or the feeling that you have. Of like your failure. At this holiday. We're just saying give yourself break add some humor if you need to picture me dodging glass. Holiday and Virginia's broken arm. Point for genu- Virginia. I'm glad she's well she made it through to throw she'll cooking. That is our episode. Thanks so much for tuning in today. If you're joining the show, please subscribe and take a minute to write a review on itunes. So he can reach and support more people. 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Ween Cast Episode 24, White Pepper 20 Years Later

Ween Cast

1:15:51 hr | 2 months ago

Ween Cast Episode 24, White Pepper 20 Years Later

"Wins latest offering is white pepper, and has already been hailed as an instant classic by family members close to the band recorded Woodstock New York's famous bears. Ville Studio. It's easily the most high fidelity wing record todate and would sound great if you were to play it on, say the radio. Gasser at terrific band in their own right there joining us tonight for the first time. This is the new CD. It's entitled White. Pepper. Please, welcome weaned. Lean, calves are weaned podcast with Shane and roared. Hey what's up, this is Shane and this is Roy and this is weaned cast. And we welcome you to a new episode. What is going on? Yeah, hello, everybody! Yeah, what's up, everybody just a couple of quick things before we get started. We wanted to mention that We still have a couple of the awesome sound of Urchin digital downloads for rejoice and Black Castle as gifted us by tomato, interested in those hit us up on facebook you can. Can See all the information for them and ten bucks gets you in amazing urgent album, autograph liner, notes, Tomato, and some other cool swag, so hit us up on facebook, and we can hook you up with that and if you don't know sound of her chin. Let me tell you is an awesome band. You should check them out. Yeah, you'd be virtually tree delicious. Before, we get started, we wanted to talk a little bit about our Patriots Fan Real quick, so we are on Patriae on. Yeah, and we just wanted to start by saying. Thank you because we already have a few patrons That's awesome. We put out that. That short add as a as one of our last episodes. we're really excited to start. providing offering exclusive content on Patriot on for patrons We only ask for a dollar a month because we're not. We're just trying to dig a little bit of money to pay the bills but we wanted to start making sure that we could offer something to those people so the a big. Thank you to the people to our current patrons. Yes, thank you, we have. We have one episode on their if you. WanNa just. Just talk about it. Briefly Shane Jimmy Wilson show Shane went to yes back in the day. Yeah, so basically we decided to do the Jimmy Wilson Group show that I had attended in two thousand one as kind of a discussion for patriotic episode. Because it's kind of a side project, it's not a full on weaned show. I was lucky enough to get there and and see that show is Jonah Peters. In new hope and it was sort of like half Wean. Half invitational what they do they're in in new hope now just like playing Kaberuka and just like hey, whatever we wanna play, it's cool. It's it was all the members of Ween plus Chris Harford the reverend be ill and Andrew Weiss. If I'm not mistaken, so that is the Jimmy Wilson grew. Yeah, we wanted to. We thought that would be a great episode for Patriots because you know it's like. Like a side Gig, but it's also like a very uncommon thing. There's only only ever did that Jimmy Wilson show eight times, so you know is really not something that you can that that there's really not a lot of it out there then so so it's pretty awesome. That Shane was at that show and he got to talk about it, but We also had some special guest appearance. Via vis-a-vis. Audio recording right Shane and that was from WHO, so Fred Moore Aka August. Forming the amazing wing taper for years and years and years recorded a little clip for us with him and the Reverend himself be ill, so they got to throw in a couple of their memories for that episode as well so if you sign up for the Patriot and listened to that episode, you'll get that clip included in our episode, so that was really cool. Then we thank Fred and bill for taking the time to help us out with that episode. Episode Yeah so so anyway so that's on on Patriot on now but we also want to let you know that we'll be rolling out more exclusive episodes on Patriae on total lie in the coming weeks. because we really want to hook that up. in the we're also going to be fleshing it out with additional content pictures from shows liner notes additional notes for our various episodes just kind of say. Thank you to everyone and give you more more weaned. Shit to look at attaining more more is always a good thing. Hey everybody listening to wean cast podcast. This is your Old Pal August forming here Aka Fred More I. Want you all the tune into my invitation radio show W. I n. v. recorded at the invitational in new Pennsylvania. What I do is I select a invitational and I play songs from it, I narrate and tell stories so a lot of fun, so please sign up for my youtube page, which is bred more and now back to wean cast podcast. So. Should we get to it? So. This episode is going to be about light pepper. It Has Been Twenty Years Twentieth Anniversary Twenty Years of white pepper. Time flies man just two weeks ago. Just right? It was released on. Was it may fifth may second may may second I believe and you know it's cool because it kind of fits in with our. Episodes that we have been talking about. It was around this time last year. We talked about the four twenty episode. April twentieth two. Thousand and white pepper was about to come out right after that absolutely, and and then, of course we've covered shows of the white pepper tore. As well, right? We've been talking a lot about that. Like era and the white paper shows so it's totally awesome just to see you know. There was a lot of people that brought it up on twitter, and there was a couple of new articles about the twentieth anniversary of white pepper, and it coincides right along with the episodes. We've been doing anyway, so it really fits. Yeah, no, and it really ends up giving us a nice live backing background. Thinking about the live performance of these songs yeah, during that time period. Thinking about the band was what they were doing at that time like. We were at a lot of shows during that time period a good number so so yeah I mean. This really fits in well for for where we're at so so I thought that was an interesting coincidence. But Yemen and twentieth anniversary so definitely timely time to chat about white pepper, and yes, so that's what we're. GonNa be talking about so Shane mentioned the so we'll start out talk a little bit about kind of the album. Just like the production. The liner notes type stuff like stats. The album was released may second two thousand one of the things? That's pretty cool that shame will tell you about. That was produced at bears. Ville Studio in Woodstock New York well. There's will studios one of those legendary kind of studios. Threw out definitely the northeast I would say throughout the whole country I mean I know that there was a lot of art especially in the eighties and nineties who recorded their? Ultimately, it was really started by the band that was sort of like Bob. Dylan and his bands kind of creation as far as my understanding from when Dylan lived in the Woodstock area, and they recorded you know all of those legendary times, and that was sort of the studio that they started, and you know it's just cool to know that it's a legendary album, and it was made it a legendary studio. You know one of those pieces of history. Yeah, you know it's kind of interesting and this'll be. A little bit of a recurring theme as we chat about this album. How far wings come you know and then here the? Are you know in a couple of albums earlier there in Nashville? Famous places. It's cool it's it's really neat to to have to see wing just continued to grow, and that's just like part of it, too to have that piece of history. Be connected to them so so that's pretty cool. a notable thing about this album is that Andrew Weiss is actually not producing. Chris Scholl produces and so that's a really interesting change and again. That's something that that's going to end up coming up in our conversation because white pepper is. is definitely distinct album in the wing catalog for a lot of reasons, some people love it for those reasons. Some people have some issues I get I suppose is a kind way to say it. Maybe, but yeah I I. It's fair to say that the person producing your albums going to have a huge impact on the album. So, so yeah, and and other things notable things about about white pepper I really love this fact Shane that. You kind of told me before. We kind of chatted it up a little bit before the episode. you're saying this is the first time that all the man band members are on the liner notes together. Yes, so when you have when you look at the the original CD and an LP. As I know anyway, it's the first time that it doesn't just have gene and dean listed. It has the full band So when you look at it, it says you know Wean, isn't it? Has All of the five members listed? So that's pretty cool and I think if again if I'm not mistaken, it's the only one of the studio albums were. Were it. Sort of has them all broken down like that I, think even after that for Quebec and the CUCARACHA. It has all of them listed, but it's a little bit more vague. It's just Kinda says like all music by and then everyone is listed, but this is the first time it has them all listed like they're equal members, more or less. Less, you know so, that's pretty cool. I think that's awesome. And that speaks to a lot of things, dude and and what I'll say to that right now is really you know. The five piece band kind of comes together during the mosque for molluscs slash in that era, right sembler the pieces of it, and then when they're for the malls it's. It's a five piece band and we've talked before in earlier episodes about how you can kind of see them like learning the songs, and like developing as a band, and really coming to their own, and we talk about that this early two thousand and two thousand around two thousand time period as being sort of a pinnacle time period for their live performances. And then being a band and I think that's just so the synergy there to say Oh, this album is the one where everyone's listed on there like this is Wayne and we're all together on this i. just feel like that points to like the ban being this cohesive unit during this time period. There's a lot of positive energy going on. They're torn like gangbusters. This is the last electro album. Yes, that's true and I. Think I think think about it that way, man. It's like all that evolution. They've been evolving dean and gene evolving the band. Wean from them back back when they first started with Elektra. Right them I, think enjoy helping out and other people obviously helping out smattering here and there, but it was basically. Basically those guys that dingy the main dudes, and just slowly growing right until finally their last kind of ood. We had a record label. You know their last record label album. Right is finally the five piece band like a synergistic group like rocking and rolling. You know and I think that's really an important thing to keep in mind as we talk about. About, the album and and one of the things that we that we brought up in some of episodes as as I had mentioned, we saw a lot of shows in like the ninety nine and two thousand era, and again you know I. Feel like I've said this many times, but it's true. It's like the whole band is just like fully fleshed by that. That point you know so the fact that all of them are listed on white pepper, and they all play on white pepper. It really fits. It really fits that time period. You know, yeah, I think it really fits. I think it really fits the white pepper sound. Yes, you know I think that collaboration that full band spirit I think I know from. People want to check out our interview of Tomato. Eleven and reverend be ill. Few episodes back you know definitely chatting with people who have worked with Diener, you know. We know that he obviously always has a huge presence, but. The piece band everyone. They're working together. I think it's I think it's evident in the work I think I think it's not only evident in the work I. Think in a great way, but also it's just emblematic of that time period, and so it all just like you said it just fits together. REALLY WELL DUDE! Yeah, absolutely pretty cool, so yeah, do. A few things. To mention before we get too far along, people should check out. The C. Four interview on. From I guess for some music. Really show or something in the UK I think I'm probably schooling. But, anyway weaned has an interview in its online from that time period. So we went to see them in the metropole in that was what was that chain June of two thousand, and that was kind of the end of the white pepper. US Tour I. Think it's July yeah, you're right, July July, and then anyways they go overseas, so yeah, so yeah. I mean I imagine that was win. This interview was done, but anyway so we'll reference this interview a few times because there are some nice little nuggets coming from that so I do want to say like say thank you to see for like. Like I want to give them their due credit because I'm not trying to be here like just like repeating everyone else's shit over again but that is something. That I looked at, and they asked him contingent, so that was cool. Yeah, and that's that's a little youtube video that you can find and I remember you know we were kind of doing some research and whatnot for this episode and Rory had sent me the link to that video and I had I seen it before. It's been a few years, but I I. I didn't remember that. It's basically like a little thing that they put together to promote white pepper. It's it's something where they talk about like you know them. Writing the songs of white pepper and a few of the individual tracks. They also talk a little bit about new hope in general, so it's really cool I it again. It's a really it's a really neat little piece from that time period. Totally it all pieces. Put some thanks pieces together, and it's always great to hear from the Horse's mouth or in this case, Dean Dean gene, but yeah and I mentioned so yeah, dude, that's of like the the nuts and bolts there. I'll go read through. Do you WanNa read through the set the song list. Sure. Yeah, okay, so this is the album of white pepper so exactly where I'm at flutes of the Chee. Even if you don't bananas and Blow Stroke Ace Ice Castles back to Basam the Grove Pandy fackler stay forever falling out, and she's your baby, cool, and and also singles. Even if you don't headcorn bed, read on the back, stay forever. Also. Had to grow, and who dat yeah, awesome, awesome reference. Yes, so there's a few singles going on there, but but yeah, so why don't we you know just sort of kind of go a little bit current logically through the songs and just sorta talk a little bit about the songs themselves, and then we can kind of come back around and talk about the album whole. Dude. There's a lot good songs on this album Oh. My God I mean amazing. You know first off right off the bat exactly where I'm at eight wound up being a show opener for a long time there. Yes, that's what I was. GonNa say you totally. Yeah, and it fits as one because you know what's funny. Dude I in sorry to cut you off, but. I'm excited so. It was a it was occurring to me like not every albums like this, but obviously we talked about the Malkin. How dancing in the show! Tonight is a great way? Oh great opener right, and this is another one where they're like. You know in the show you know like the the first song introduces the concept of playing for a crowd right, and so it's really just a natural odor. Food. Totally man and I they they ended. They actually performed at David Letterman. Their only appearance at David Letterman happened just a few days after we saw him at the Metropole. I believe right Rome near yard. Lose weight off both his. Jared David Letterman. Go. Yes, and so they perform that Jeaner with sunglasses on inside. Because that's really cool, you know and what's really interesting about that? Is You know that's a pretty big deal? especially at that at that time, because you know the late show with David Letterman! I'm a huge still a huge fan of. The most. I'm a huge letterman fan of been for you know years and years and years, but you know what's interesting is that they played exactly where I'm at even though even if you don't is sort of like the token single for white pepper, so that's an interesting little tidbit. You know there's there's the CD single, and there's a video that's directed by Trey Parker and Matt Stone. We'll get to that in a little bit for even if you don't but yet when they're on Dave. They plead exactly where I'm at log onto the show. Don rickles is here tonight. And from radio station W. E. N. Y.. What I'm sorry, no weaned. We. I mean it's a it's a great rendition in everything and they they nail it. You can check out on out on. Youtube also, but that's. It's just like one of those things where it's like. Why would they play that? If even if you don't is supposed to be the single, you know just an odd little thing. You know not complaining, but just interesting. Little Tidbit exactly where I'm at I always and I don't. If this is I'd love to get people's feedback on this. But I've always felt like it starts out like it's almost like confronting the past and says let's begin with the past in front, and it's almost like he's kind of. They're recognizing the baggage, and they know that this out there doing white white peppers different than the previous albums, and they're sort of casting off criticism, and it's Kinda like like fuck you felt like. and. It's also dude I. Don't know if you picked up on this, but there are some interesting continents going on in this album with like NFL zones and p sounds so you've got flappy flap north pappy. flappy which we'll get to later, because that actually is crazily related to that song north, pappy, floppy, whatever, but anyway I'm getting a little bit off track, but then flew she. You got this. Thing, like sort of consonants that's running through it and I wonder if that's intentional at all, or if it was noticed by them, because I know gener I think especially as a lyricist has fun with the language, but something else that I noticed on this dude and just picking up on themes. Exactly we're almost looks ahead to the artists and the roaming. The roaming I you know, and it's just like and so I thought that was interesting as well just a little little things. I picked up on exactly where I'm at low. Key follows up exact and flew to the G. is. Is kind of like, how would you describe food to the g? Well? I would say it's their best attempt at sort of like a an eastern vibe. If that makes any sense, yeah, yeah, no, you're right I feel. It gives me a little bit of a Beatles esque. Feel agree with that as a little bit of the white album feel which is interesting. I don't want to get too far ahead, but. People have kind of picked up on this sort of sort of connection with some Beatles, feel in white pepper, and so I feel like you're right about the eastern thing, but yes, so after flew to that she you mentioned even if you don't that's one of the singles right? Yes, you're saying. Yeah, I think it's technically the only quote unquote single from this record I mean you know I'm a big Big Record and CD collector well, not a big, but when it comes. Comes to win a big record and CD collector, and that was really the only thing from from my memory that was released as sort of like a promotional CD. There is a couple of forty fives you know rory mentioned besides with who dat and corn bread, but the only thing that was really sent out as like a promotional thing on on CD was even if you don't so, it's really sort of the only quote. Unquote singler attempt at a single from this album. S. Too. Yet dude and. Unity don't do because they have a video. masto trey, Parker, of South Park fame. Obviously, did the video for Wean. They're they're they're. They're buddies and an obvious, and of course, while you may not know but wean connected back to chef aid and a Homo Rainbow is actually a song written for? For South Park. So. There's definitely some some history there, and so that's pretty awesome, and that's kind of a silly video and and in the C.. Four interview diener mentioned Talk Slowed Matt and Trey because they did the video for this, and and that's just to hear him. Give a lot of respect to those guys. Got Matt Stone and Trey Parker to her video? We definitely feel they're kindred spirits. We get along with them very well. Definitely hit it right off the. First Time we met them. They're cool. They operate on a much larger level the clean. Extremely. You know their deep into the mainstream which is great, because what they do is so subversive, you know. Truly kind of Admiral. Really Sick, and I think their intentions are bad. Mainly go ahead. I remember going back and and trying to find that video as a matter of fact, because I don't think it was really on anything that you could like by you know. I remember the live at Stubb's had like you could you. Download, or you know. Had the video file was on one of the CDs of them playing like elementary or something? But I don't think there is anything that you could that you could buy, or you could get then included the video for even if you don't so I kind of remember like downloading like a really. Really Shitty like quality version of it, or you know, streaming it back when you know streaming wouldn't even really right and just see you know like sort of being able to get the point of like what it's about, but it's so blurry and whatnot you know now. It's just one of those things are. It's just strikes me as funny because it's like nowadays like fucking Youtube. Everything so easy nowadays. Yeah, they're in its highest its highest quality that it's ever been you know. It's so easy. Yeah Dude. And so The next song in line is bananas and blow and you know this is interesting. Because wing is obviously known for playing variety of music, and a lot of different styles and white pepper is exception. So you once again? You know you've got. These like kind of pop songs starting out like exactly where I'm at or even if you don't little pop rock, but mixed in food to the little eastern influence, he got bananas and blow. Is this Cabana like Latin Flavor Calypso and steel drum yes, steel drum. It's pretty cool because one thing for me about the banana blow is immediately reminds me Glen is the shit. Yeah Lens Awesome Glenn's awesome in his fingerprints are all over this album an amazing way like I really think no one should underestimate. Underestimate Glenn and so his contributions on the keys. Awesome, so bananas and blow to me is a great example of that and what's cool about bananas and blow is that it's actually like inspired by Lake Not I. Don't know if he would say a true story but I guess they have had a buddy who's married a woman from four, and she was a family with hotels, and so they were down there, playing like for Mardi Gras calibration, or something, and so that was kind of the Bananas Blow. Latin America and it's like doing this crazy. MARDI GRAS in Ecuador. So. That's pretty cool that just like fits right into I. Mean I'm sure that the song I first off their rock and roller, so I'm not going to begin to like sort of diminish. Justify how crazy they may or may not have been. But the song could be overstating things, or maybe not, but nevertheless it's like a great setup and I've heard. People describe it as you know, it's like the Jimmy Buffett Song that like you know. It's sort of like the Jimmy Buffett Song on like acid or something. Yeah the only time they ever tried to do like a like a Calypso or like steel drum kind of sound and they. You know they nailed it. No no question about that. Yeah, no, it's fun wing. The they have one of the things that makes that weans really good at is that they're able to do things like that without to sounding like copycat, you know it's still sounds like such an original awesome song like they're. They're able to like. Be Chameleons and go between genres. Nipple it off. At least I think so. That's a great example of that. Yeah Dude, and that's followed up, so castles painting fackler the next songs, and they're also huge or I don't know that the next two stroke, but ice castles I just mentioned together because they're also too big time Glenn Songs. But yes, Glenn is all over the place on this album. Absolutely I mean ice castles again is a big SORTA keyboard track. It's the only instrumental track on the album and yeah. You know this would be something that would be great at. It reminds me of like David Lynch film, or maybe like a student or like amateur film, not that I know of any that ever used ice, castles or anything, but you know it has. It has kind of a Dr of sort of slow feel to it very spacey very very. It is very Glenn. It's you know I. IT definitely has some Glenn all over it I think. It definitely sounds like an ice castle sort of song you know it definitely sounds like someone's playing like a like a heart that's made of ice or something, and and it's like tingling. It also has a little bit of a Gothic feel which is really untrusting. And so this will be a great time to share you know one of the things that's wise cast has always been renowned for us is that we used it for the opening song for a home movie? We made way back in the day. Called the raker and so. I WANNA. Get that out there. Anyway the Raker, and anyway, so we were filming at a cemetery at a church, and it was getting near sunset, and so it was really creepy vibe. You know really creepy by because it was like in the cemetery, and and so we had the intro be ice castles, so it definitely has kind of a Gothic Gothic feel to it I believe I, remember reading back when reading about the mollusc, and how that was written at the Beach House in New Jersey I believe ice castles was written Kinda. Glenn and Diener writing that at the House at the Jersey shore of not mistaken, or it was right around. When Mickey was bringing in Glen into like the band I think that was probably one that was sort of from earlier time period because when we saw them on the New Year's tore ninety nine. They played Ice Castles. The Baroque jam so I mean it's a little bit before some of the other white pepper songs would be. would be played for the first time, so that wouldn't. Wouldn't surprise me at all that it was sort of like a I. Don't want to call it a mosque, leftover or anything like that, but from like an earlier sort of like time period and someone's gotTa help me out there. That can I WANNA remember that that diener explains that the pipes or something broke because they got frozen because it was getting into the off season it was. was late in the off season, and then something about the water pouring out, and it was an ice castle or something, so that's kind of where the song came from I. Totally Am sorry I'm totally wrong I. I think I think I know that I'm hope I'm not just making that up. Yeah, no I remember that from that from the mollusc article from from Stereo Gum I don't. Don't know if he actually says like. Oh, it was it was how I got the idea for ice castles, or that's where the title came from or anything like that, but it would make total sense because he definitely cells that story about how you know. The Beach House flooded and everything was frozen. Everything was like ice, and and all this stuff on the floor was ruined and everything. So it would totally fit that sort of scenario, so that's. And after ice castles, you got back to base him in the Grove which are to kind of like I don't know man I kind of feel like they're a little bit more like throwback to wean like wings thrown back to themselves a little bit like like a lot of this album feels kind of new and different to what they've done in the past, but I feel like those two songs. A little bit made me feel a little bit like the mollusc, or or even earlier. Maybe yeah I mean that's a good point. I mean I. It's it's almost like that would. Those would be the songs that you would have found. The pod, you know what I mean like a very like dark and slow. You know kind of feel, maybe not a produced as well, but you know the same sort of like theme, the same sort of feel for sure, so that's a good point, and there are also two pretty big live rockers. Yes, so. Yeah, definitely like to songs like that's something that will that that that with this album that I was thinking about is that there's not a lot of big like the line like there's a lot of good songs on this album, but the way they're presented live there not a lot. A big like you know moments like a lot of these. Songs are kind of played the way they played live. Yes, to they don't like rock out. Like a little soul, Jeaner doesn't diener doesn't do a solo in the middle of whatever, but like yes, most of them don't really jam out or don't really like go hardcore so that's kind of an interesting thing back to base him in the Grove or the two that maybe get a little more our core when it's live. I would say they have a little bit. Any Kenny factors definitely jammed out live. Yes, back to base, and and the grow are sort of like the ones that you would pick out of this album sort of like being like that epic. Know big feel. Bad. She's. Out. It kind of. Reminds me of some of the mall songs that just have that like epic nist to them, you totally the epic nece. Yeah, like a Buckingham Green follow up right. The Grove is just. Screaming you know that sort of thing there's absolutely a carryover from the malls to white pepper absolutely and they're melting on that, but but you have songs that that have sort of in the back burner and. Evolve and have been written in the past and sort of waiting for the right day to come out so so clearly there evolving into the white pepper, and there's going to be these these touches of the mollusc and whatnot. That takes us to paint fackler, which is another mentioned? It's another big Glenn Song. But this one's interesting dude, because the you kind of get a little bit of insight into some of Wean, songwriting with this diener has said that sometimes it's you sort of invent a care gene like invented character, and then you can kinda be inspired to like tell their story, and it's like it's like it's like freeing because he just invented character, and and it's funny in that C., four interview, Jeaner says like at Bob Dylan damage. Hear. Somebody say something. Might Inspire Song or whatever. Yeah we do have a characters. You know tunes. Bob Dylan damage. You know. He always had a lot of characters, songs and there's. Yeah. It's a really cool. It's the champion of that. Yeah, and it's it's just it's A. It's a very inspirational thing. You think of a character and can really. Rate something about him or her. A lot of times songs are the best you come up with the title I because. If you come up with a title then as you write the lyrics and the music, it's all kind of going towards the central. Theme. You know you. You choose your sounds and everything. You can really like Ram and idea home. Always has all these characters and you know what's crazy like I was thinking about that like Wayne the Beatles and Bob Dylan. Are Three. You know bands like whatever that you could make a poster and the poster could have like you know sorta like hey, find all the songs in the poster yeah. And you'd have like you know, and you'd have like Pandy fackler. They're like you know behind like the bleachers you know like. And and it's so cool and and I know that. You know reviews have said that she's the mentally disabled. I guess would be the nicer way of putting. Some people have said twenty years ago, but I I don't know if I pick up that exactly I suppose that's the case. I know Jeaner has said it's about a woman who tries really hard to get things done, but can't quite get it done, but she just drew a hard yeah, and so I suppose I mean it's funny, and this song is great, because white pepper is sometimes gets accused of not being to Brown and we'll. We'll talk a little bit more about that, but later, but but I think this is an example where where they're digging back into that and having fun and being Ri- Bald and kind of ridiculous, so I think it's great throwback I think this song and also bananas and blow a little bit earlier, but in blows a little more tame paying you fackler a little bit more Ribald, but but they're both. Stand out in the album as like these songs that sort of a little bit different than what's around them, so that's kind of cool. Penny fackler is jammed out live and Glenn Roxette live so so that's a cool one penny fackler. Sort of? Alive Song. You forget about it, but then you realize me and they really jammed that out. Yeah, it's really the only one from from white pepper that really gets like a long jam when it comes to the live show I mean pretty much everything else from white pepper as amazing as they might be when the band plays them live, they're they're pretty standard. They're pretty standard like renditions. You know you know. We talked about like the epic ness of like the grow, or whatever so they're all they're. They're amazing, and you know I'm not complaining at all, but it's like Pandy. Fackler is really the only one that they've turned into like that vehicle to be like ten minutes long. Just, jammed that. Glenn fucking go totally yeah, his fingerprints are all over this album and the kind of ends like the trio at the end. is just kind of throws you off guard. You don't see a lot of songs like this from wing, but they're out there. Absolutely, there's plenty of them to be honest, but they often get overshadowed, but just these beautiful like stay forever is just a beautiful like love ballad. You know and I'll be i. feel like to me. That's like probably the most beautiful love song that weaned has written or one of them Oh my God. It's definitely up there. No question. It's great man. A. Do. I mean I sing Acapella to my wife all the time I ain't afraid to I ain't afraid to tell you. Know and so so it's just freaking cool, and it's just really evidence of their lyrical chops, songwriting chops, and they they. They just have this great ability to know when it's like all right. Let's strip this down and make it like you know a simplified like Kinda. Let's chill it down like everything doesn't have to be. You know five minutes of like weird noises. What I mean like Coal Falling L. Always to me, always made me feel like had a Beatles vibe to me like like run like hell. Early Hells Pink Floyd I'm sorry. run for your life. On Rubber Soul I. Dunno I, always felt like echoes of that man like both in how the songs fallen out. The song is sort of how they play the song, but also just sort of the content negative thing like a falling out like. Run for your life, and you think of the Beatles anyway. As all these lovey-dovey songs, you obviously don't think of lean that way, but nevertheless I always got a Beatles vibe for that. It's a great comparison, and it really is like both songs, not only are they sort of more like the upbeat side both songs had that cut right to the quick cut right to the chase. Don't it? Neither one sort of like fuck around with what they're trying to say. You know what I mean so and they're both, very. They're both very smart tunes. It's just I'm trying to get this point across in this song. It's not something that I like talking about. It's not very pretty or anything like that, but it's important and boom done right to the rights of the quick it really right re falling outreach to me like a poem asked about I. I, I think about two relationships, but I don't want to get all the details about what each surly, but it's written to me. Me feels like a poem and I love it because it tells the story of put it also sort of has a message, or has a know deeper meanings in I would say especially true with the end with she's your baby. I think a million layers across deposit blanket. The season's bury the reasons. You told her that this was for good. You know I just man. It's Kinda Sat. Amazing Song then amazing. Song, yeah, yeah, yeah. ooh! But yet dude I. Mean it's just really cool, and it's hard to unpack, so I'm not gonNA. Sit here and tell you exactly what you're supposed to get out of it and what it all means. Down the devils are dying with laughter. You know it's like there's just some really great lines and Jesse's interesting images that you're trying to unpack. it's really is kind of a little bit psychedelic. It's not like musically psychedelic, lyrically psychedelic in a way I. Guess and sort of obtuse like. Not Eat not readily unpacked and so it's neat that. The album ends on this a little bit of a cryptic note for me like the songs a little bit crank to me. I can feel that absolutely. Yeah, but another sort of love ballad like slower slower at time, Song a little bit. Yeah, absolutely, just in case we don't get back there. We kind of skipped over striker ace. which I could see I could see why of but. I mean. It's okay, it's the it's like the Ri- bald. You know one that jumps out from this album. An. But you know one of the things I. Just I just picked up on this myself. Going back in, you know because obviously I've been listening to this album lately. Kind of getting prepared for the podcast and refreshing my memory and stuff and you had mentioned North Pappy flappy, which is brought up during stroke race, and yes, that is yes, thank you for bringing that back up. I can only think of that. As being the second time where a wing song title is referenced in another weaned song so basically like stroke race. He mentioned North Pappy flappy which is a real. Obscure thing that's old school winds up on those like besides and stuff the ego to dig for what show we talk about that. In one of earlier episodes the Toronto show that we went. Yeah, you want to check out whatever earlier episodes Toronto the warehouse. That was. That was pretty wild, but anyway. Play North Pappy flappy, but the only other one that I can come up with an I'm sure there's more but baby bitch because he mentioned the song birthday boy so the actual song. Birthday is in baby, bitch and same thing with stroke race. Nice deep cuts, happy flappy deep cuts! Yeah, so just and I just picked up on that myself within the last couple days of going back and listening to white pepper, but I'll tell you. What like shook racists. I would say. We're getting to the point here. We're GONNA. Start talking about the album in general anyway and one of the claims that we make is that there's not really any throwaway songs on this album and I would say if there is one in my mind all apologies, it would be stroke race. I'm not complaining. You know it's but i. kind of always felt like it slowly like a it's like weaned trying. Trying hard to be weaned and it's really a lot like Johnny on the spot, except they don't jam it out live and I don't know I always felt like I'm not as into this sort of like speed metal side of Wean as much I mean it's all jam out to live dude and put the devil horns op frigging now down to the bow down to the mcnish God demon God. But just not as as into it, yeah, it's definitely a diener track, and it's kind of like a you know it would. It would It would fit into like a moist boys like album. You know what I mean. It's not saying anything you know positive or negative about it. It's just it's definitely like one of those diener like Ri- bald like you know just fucking. Get Down to the rock kind of songs you know and and I can just imagine like. Watching like burt reynolds being like stroke race, and it's like character Franken. Another thing that that diener said in the C. Four interview that he you know. Sometimes you come up with a song title, and then you sort of everything can kind of helps everything Kinda, go go towards the theme because you have the title, and you're all working everything toward that title, and you gotTa think about and then I think it's interesting learning that some songwriting like getting inside the head of teenager. Because then you see a song like this and you'd. You'd think How did this come about right? Yeah, probably just popped in his head. Well I know that he he mentions Dick trickle. Who is a race car driver and for I? Don't know if that's his official like nickname, stroke, race or not, but for years and years and years my dad had a dick trickle shirt and every time word I would just be like stroke race. You know that's just a little side side. Diddy there for you. Remember that shirt could shut out to your dad to pops so just like one of those things where I don't know if that was his actual nickname and diener found out about that is stroke, or as like you know who knows how it actually came about Oh yeah, totally. I'm just guessing I'm just spitballing this point. I'm not exactly sure, but but just it's just fun thinking through the thinking process and as you learn. Bits and pieces of how they go and work through songs. It's kind of cool to think about that, but yeah dude, so I'll. Let you roll a little bit? Tell me about the album in like does that's the songs? Dive through songs, but but but certainly as a whole, let's talk about the album as a whole well when we went back, and we did sort of our like our favorite album podcasts within there's another plug for our own show I. Don't mean to do that, but one of the things I had brought up. Do Plug our own show all night long. So one of the things that I had mentioned during that conversation was the country album and the mollusc are the ones that come before this, and they have a very good flow to them because they're sort of like theme albums. Are there sort of concept albums? If you will? Every song is great, and it just flows. It's the kind of thing where you could just start. Listen to the whole thing and it just it has like a rhythm. It has of Nice. You know sort of thing that fits as one piece of art the entire album, so I'm not saying it's a criticism of of white pepper per. Se but I always kind of felt like it has this chunk? Chunk which is great, this chunk which is create and this chunk which is great, and it doesn't necessarily have the same kind of like flu. Okay again, great songs and every song. A white pepper is great. There's there's nothing really that's like. Throw away. You could argue you know maybe stroke race, but you know like everything about it is quality one of the things that we were gonNA. Talk I'm sure we'll get to. Is You know it's the most like high fidelity? We novel especially up to that point, it sounds great. Yes, the production value just you know the backup singers. They got additional musicians. They're like everything's like pristine quality like very minimum amount of that grunge factor that. is so well known for. Yes, so it's sort of like the first section is exactly where at flutes of the Chee, even if you don't and bananas and blow it, all is sort of like what I would do. As as like harmony songs, I know that's Kinda like a know. It doesn't really say a whole lot, but it's like fun upbeat pretty. They all have a good sort of like harmony. Okay, then you've got stroke race, and that sort of like that sort of like it apart. That's sort of like the divide of like okay. You got those four now stroke or as? As like sits by itself, and that puts you in a different frame of mind altogether. Okay, that doesn't really like attach itself to like anything else on the record. Okay, then you got the second section, which is ice castles back to base and the grow. Okay, now I remember David Lynch. It's kind of like the dark section like the slow all of a sudden. You're having a nightmare like you're doing like uneasy. You know that that kind of thing. Okay? It's the dark deep kind of nighttime kind of feel. Okay, then you got Pandy fackler again. That's sort of like divides it. Stands on its own. Okay, again doesn't really attach itself anything. Not Saying it's a bad song. It just doesn't like fit being next to those tracks that it's next to you know what I mean, so then you have the rest of the album. Stay forever falling out. She's your Bait. Okay, heavy, deep introspective. Okay things that songs that make you think okay a lot of. that. Make you like feel a certain way or another about your life or about your relationships, or you know that kind of thing I also and again this just hit me the other day listening to it's sort of like like staying up all night. You know you start off and you're feeling good about it and you're like you know you're like Giddy and it's like we're going to do. This is fun and you're you know you're feeling good. Then you start getting tired. You know what I mean, and then you start, you know. Maybe this wasn't such a good idea you know, and then you got that like section of the album. Ice Castles back to base in the grow. Pantothenic the and then you get penny fackler and it's like that's when you shake scillies out because. That's when you start getting like. You get like goofy. You start hitting. Right you got to do something to. Yeah phone. you start getting like like crazy about you. Start Feeling. Goofy you know da Da da, then you start thinking then you start, then you start wondering about things in your own life and your relationships with people and and. Again introspective that kind of thing, that's the last part of the album again. Stay forever falling out. She's your baby. Things about you and your relationships with other people. You know that sort of thing that's the way I always sort of felt about it has it has a few different sections to it, not a criticism and I love every one of those songs, but it may not have the same sort of like flow as it does of being like this amazing chunk, this amazing chunk in this amazing challenge. So that's my main like you know I would say that in the sense. I would say earlier. We don't really have a flow. I would say the album's right before this one kind of have the flow because you know, you're dealing with these concept, albums and whatnot, right and I think people weren't sure what to make white pepper. It's not a concept album, but yeah dude I think I. Do see see see how it is interesting how you've laid it out and I think it makes some sense because it isn't I, mean like it isn't just like a cohesive. Which I think is a great departure from what they had done two times before that because it's almost like. We all know wasn't appreciated in its own time, and we all know golden country greats is like a lot of people. Sadly look at as a stain on Wean. So you kind of look at this time period, and if you're the more hardcore, Wean had this is a I guess. Some people feel it's a little bit of a dark time period, and so that's sort of something to kind of talk about I. Know Reading some reviews. There's it's been said that. White pepper came out that some of the hardcore old school fans Kinda thought it was selling out. You know like we. You know it's like this finally produced album very nice, mainstream appeal and There's a lot to say about that. And that all man they're selling out and you know I think so first off I. Want to say I respect every wean heads, opinion We're not super old school fans I. Mean we go back to? We started listening to them after chuckling, cheese was released so that time period, so we're not super old school like right pair to like the real heads go back to like Godwin, Satan and shit. We have a different perspective on that and I would just say that the one thing that I look at that and say you know what do every ween album different. Yeah, and that's a hallmark. That's an awesome thing, and it makes it reminds me of the Beatles in a way. which is something else I want. Want to talk about, but never album is different, and the way that white pepper is different is that this is when the five piece band into the fucking studio, and said we are going to Polish up, and we were gonNA Freak in spit. Shine this and put it out there man you know, and and that's that's the theme of this. That is the theme you know. It's an ECLECTIC group of songs, a lot of variety in the musical genres and styles that are played. You mentioned it's not all. Cohesive necessarily right and I guess that's the theme to me, and it's like there's nothing wrong with that I think you have a band evolving from two guys to a five piece band, and wanting to show all the little facets of them, and so I thought that was cool I think diener says again I'm referencing the four interviews of. Thank thank you to those people, but you know diener comments at the end of that interviewed. He says I don't think we've come this far just to make fun of music, just destroy music. He's like we. We just trying to play music. Play good music. He's already defending himself through this this tour and it's like dude. I mean this is another facet of lean, so a couple of things like you know, you mentioned the whole like sell out. You know topic, and it is funny to me because you know, I'm a big punk rock guy and you know. Trust me I've used the term. Sell out. You know about a lot of bands over the years and whatnot but. But I. There's a couple of different thoughts. That I have about that. First of all and I don't mean to be too harsh on you. Know the critics or anything like that but I feel like there's two reasons why someone would say you know. This album would be like weaned like selling out it. Basically, it would be first of all you know. Music critic wants to make themselves sound smart, and you know every. Every ban has to have the point where they quote. Unquote sold out right. You know it's like come on, come on, you know like with Wean. It's like they've been obviously by this time. Especially, they've been trying to get better and better and better, and they've succeeded at okay, so it's kind of like the this is. This does not strike me as a sell-out album at all the other thing, the other reason i. I would say that someone might say that about this is. It doesn't really have like to humor and the people who are just looking for like those songs to be like a joke. You know okay, so. Pandy fackler has has some sense of humor to it and stroke, reese and and bananas and blow you know. Yeah Bananas and blows kind of that one token like you know the first time you hear that. But Famously, people have said white pepper. The word fuck is not in the album. Like. That's kind of like the point like that's sort of like a way to sum it up right to the. You know it's like they haven't dropped the sense of humor completely completely, but it's. It's not really like prevalent on on this album at all. You know what I mean so. If you know only a little bit about Weiner and you're listening to white peppers. Oh, where's the? Where's The goofy stupid tracks? I know there are no stupid goofy tracks. Okay, it's just all great. You know what I mean. Yeah. Dude, and and very explicit about that. You know he's like we're trying to make good music. That's totally a commentary on that dude. It's what's this is very interesting. Dude, so he has matt and Trey come in. They help out with the video. That is so informed Kadena actually says he's like you know. He's got a lot of respect for Matt and Trey. Because they're in the mainstream, but they're subversive. You know like south. Park is huge, Matt and Trey our flight, and so like weaned looks up to them as As like man, they're like us, except somehow there in the mainstream, and so it really is this moment of like. How can we like bridge that gap without losing your identity? Here's two guys that have done that right? You know that that's a good point in terms of if you're just looking at like. Oh, you mean the south, Park guys so like anybody that like they're associated with. It must be like a joke. You know it's like. Don't be so shortsighted. You know what I mean like. Just because it's you know them. Working together doesn't mean that it's it's a comedy act you know what I mean so that might be a little bit of that stigma sort of rearing its ugly head. People also have a tendency not to take humor seriously ns like I think that's a mistake. Absolutely, it's like humor is just a part of life, and you know if you're Aaron especially. Just part of who he is, and if it comes across as being humorous, it's because he has a great sense of humor. Obviously, you know so. That just shows up in his writing totally and. I look at this album. It's like there's definitely a lot of. It's a softer side of wean enter ain't nothing wrong with that you see glimpses of that throughout like birthday boy come on, that goes back to Gabrielle Satan. So you get glimpses of that all around I. Just see you just see in higher proportions here right so I think that that hopefully in hindsight we can be. Some people can be a little more kind to white pepper dude. I, don't remember exactly where I put it because we didn't rank them exactly, but when we went through, and we're talking about our favorite albums of all time, I'm pretty sure white pepper comes in. They're like. Kind of in the middle near the top like fourth or fifth I think like I like I like white pepper dude like I. I think it's on the better end of their albums like you know, it's definitely not one of the best albums of all time in my opinion, but it's definitely not one of the worst, and you know that's something else that I've heard that I couldn't verify, but it may be someone out. There can speak to it, but I've heard a lot of people say that you know a lot of fans. Put this near the bottom of their list, and so maybe I'm Kooky Crazy Shane maybe I'm kooky crazy guy. I think it's I. Just think it's tight. I just think there's there's not really much to throw away. And it's just like a lot of good songs, and if I'm being honest, which I am right then. There's a few songs on here. That are some of my fucking favorite songs of. We like the definitely there in so and yet. There aren't any really on here. That are like at the bottom you. Mentioned stroke or Ace? Okay, so maybe that one is, but none of the other ones are near the bottom, and I would say if I was looking at gobbling sane or the pod. There's probably a whole bunch of songs on there that sorry to say. If I was ranking weaned songs from one to three, hundred or however many, there are a lot of the earlier ones probably would be near the bottom because they're like weird songs with sounds and things and whatever you. You know it's like and that's cool, and that's a part of Wayne and that's awesome, but this is a part of wing to well. It's hard when you're when you're like ranking the albums because you know you can't help but compare them to each other and one of the things that we just said. Is You know every ween? Album is completely unique in? It's completely different in and of itself, so it's hard when you're you know ranking your favorite, we because you. Have No choice, but to let compare them to each other. You know what I mean. Like hurts. Hurts white pepper, because you're comparing it to like the mollusc or chocolate, cheese or something like that a couple of other thoughts that I have though is like a whole thing first of all from from our own personal experience, and I know I had mentioned this on our album review episode as well, but at the time you know we mentioned again during this episode that we were seeing a lot of weaned shows, and like you know we had seen a lot of these songs played live. We had heard a lot of. Of these songs played live before the album came out, so I can't help but have that sort of like hinder my take on it, because it wasn't the kind of thing where like you have no knowledge of this record, and then all of a sudden. It's just dropped on you and it's just everything is wow. You know all brand new. You know what I mean. It's sort of like it was like half and half. It was sort of half songs I had never heard before and half songs. Okay that song. That's how it sounds. When they got into the studio and actually recorded it for real, but it's I already know I already know all the words you know what I mean. Because I was just like inhaling those live shows over and over and over at that point via the bootlegs and everything else the other thing is it's again it it. It doesn't have the obvious like concept album. SORTA stamp to it like the country record or OR THE MOLLUSC? It's white pepper. What does white pepper really mean well? We don't really know it's a lot like pure guava. It's or chocolate and cheese. It's just a collection of tracks. You know I'm not saying that in a diminishing way at all, but there again you referenced the Beatles it's like you know the white album. What is it? It's a collection of songs. Okay, how it flows together is sort of like you know secondary. Just a collection of great songs. It's ominous. You know white pepper. What is white pepper? Mean you know what I mean, it doesn't mean anything. It's just a collection of great music. Dude that brings up like I know. People out there you reading and I know people said that Oh. White pepper might mean white album plus sergeant. Pepper's like it's kind of like this here we are. We're going to put it all together. And the Beatles were the greatest pop band, and now he's going to do this like we're all day. Shis or something and I it unless someone out can correct me. I'M GONNA. Say I'm pretty sure that that's the. The band has never said that that's the case. That's just like a fan theory and you know that's all because I've always had like this. Even though it may might not be true. That's fine like I. Don't need it to be true, but it's a neat idea because I've always had this. I've always looked at the Beatles and weaned sort of with parallel sense of like kind of looking through their. They're like. Like, okay, they both put a lot of albums of high quality over a certain amount of time you see, you can see like a progression you know from like album to album like you know. They're high period. It's like chocolate. Cheese is like revolver or something like data. The mollusc is like sergeant, peppers or something, and you know it's funny. I've never I wouldn't say that. White pepper is white album. I would say. Say Quebec is the white album, but okay, but but I just think it's neat just in my own now I'm blabbing a little bit, but I just think it's neat. Because I've always made these connections with the Beatles with lean and and so on this album you do. I flew to the T. falling out pandy fackler kind of like George, Martin Piano, driven and Paul McCartney on the piano kind of like. Their Little Bit Beatles ask it's there and I think the footprints their Beatles influence on so many bands. It's not a surprise that weaned is influenced by the Beatles yet I mean I think you could say that about both of those albums, the white album and sergeant pepper, even though sergeant pepper. Has that sort of like? Closing, okay, the sergeant pepper, but you know you go back to basically any interview from the Beatles about Sergeant Pepper and they talk about. No, it's us as like another band, and we can do any genre that we want you know and that's. That's one of the things about sergeant pepper is it's you know it's here? It's there. It's everywhere. You know what I mean and it's a bunch of different genres. All thrown together and that's. Just like wayne all about genre bending. And White Pepper. It's just like we'll be any genre that we want it. It doesn't have again. It's like ominous. If that's a good word, you know it doesn't. It doesn't reference like anything. It's just them doing all types of music that they want to do so. I think it's a great analogy, and and again I agree with you. I don't know if. If there's any like interviews or anything where they specifically said yeah, that's what the title is in is in reference to or something. That like you know you think about is like oh? Hey, white pepper like the Beatles right? Okay, you know it's just a fun, little ditty, but great album you know at the end of the day. It's a great album, yeah! I would say you know I. Don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA spend thirty more minutes repeating myself but like. I think I put this album in the top half of albums. There's a lot of we now I put it in the top half for sure I. think There's a lot of craft that's gone into these songs. There's definitely some of these songs that that are some of my favorite songs of all time for Weiner, in all all bands and and I just love the craft and I also love Glenn. Like I have like a man key pianist keyboardist crush on Glenn so. You know it's just like it's just awesome, and so we all. Don't we all do an in? So just a seat, feel his print on these songs, and then seeing the songs live, you know in his print is even larger. It's just really cool to see the five piece band all working together to create the product, and it's like you really feel like everything's working on all cylinders now and more so than ever before wean is also become. It's like a live band now, too, so yeah, you have this album here and it's and people complain. Maybe it's a little short There's not a lot of throwaway. Short but rice alive. Go see it live. You know like that's what they are. Now. Go go go, go see the five piece band wieners alive act because that's really where they're flourishing. Yeah, I mean like. If you were going to compare it to one of the album's, you could say okay well. Maybe it's a little short compared to like the pod or pure guava. Guava or something like that, but there's nothing really on it. That's like skip all, so that's like your your tradeoff. There isn't really anything on white pepper that I could say like I'm just GonNa skip past that one. It's like no I'll listen I'M GONNA. Listen to the whole thing. You know what I mean the other thing I. I'm pretty sure I had mentioned this. On her album view episode, but one of the other things that we we bring up a lot actually ends. It's easy to when you're talking about a band like wean is it's like how would you introduce their music to someone who doesn't know them and I still to this day? Think white pepper is the most accessible to like someone to be like okay well. What album should I start with? In my opinion I I'm going to go that every time white pepper. Yeah, dude, no, it's roundly considered their most accessible album, accessible album and end. It is, and it's not. The! F words not in you know right? It's a little more accessible a little less. Offensive you know and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Yeah, it's not. It's not just because it doesn't. Have you know rival like dirtiness, or whatever it just because it's just great, and it is accessible. It's not something that would scare somebody away. You know there's nothing on it. That's too far out there. That someone would listen to him to like what the fuck is this you know I mean maybe like Ice Castles, or or you know one of those sort. Sort of like darker songs we've you've got the bridge songs right like Pani Fackler Bananas and blow that are guaranteed to make your like grandmother cringe, but you know it's funny I. WanNa share an anecdote, bananas and blow because it stood out to me because it's like well. That one is a little bit risque. Right Bananas and blow, and you're an amy and I were visiting Philadelphia last year, and she was having a drink at a bar and with. The wing show. It was for the wing weekend, right? Yeah totally. Philly midshow, and and so we were telling the bartenders like. Yeah, we're. We're here show. She's like Oh Wean. Is that the band with that song? Banana blowjobs bananas. Nice! So it was like well. That's not the actually. That's not the title song, but but that was awesome that it's like but like that's what you remember. That's how that's how she thinks that the songs, so it's one of. But nevertheless even with bananas and blow, even with Benny Bachelor I, would still say this is the most accessible, and and they and they are covering risky topics, risque topics, but like but hey man. You know even grandma needs to have your mind blown from time to time. Shake the dust off, you know. It's harmless I. Mean Come on, it's harmless. Your little harmless fun. You know so I. Guess That's our white pepper conversation. Yet, DUDE! You know I think we covered all the bases it's it's cool. I mean we just shows you new new side of them every time you know, it actually made me think of the argus you know, and all the many. Is You know all the many facets of lean? You know it's like A. It's like a spider with. All the is and everything reflects off them. You know it's like this is just another reflection, and so I think it's great yeah. Guys Twentieth Anniversary Relive. It man, and let us know what you think we if you have something to add to what we talked about, then by all means checking with us. Let us know I'm sure we didn't cover everything I'm sure we haven't I'm sure there's other details out there, and if we got anything a little bit off by all means correct us. Yeah, hit us up. Hit US up on on facebook on twitter. Patriot Games. We had mentioned. It's Patriot dot com forward slash wingcast, podcast, and yeah. We want to hear your stories. We're going to hear about the first time you heard white pepper. You know what I mean like. Like, you know. Did Somebody recommend to you? That would be a good question. I'd like to throw out there to anybody. Could somebody recommend that album to you? As as a first album, the listen to for Wean. Yeah, totally and do a lot of people. At this time there's a lot of wing fans coming into the fold around two thousand. A lot of people could have been the first album, so yeah, man. We want to hear from you. Was it your first? Did someone introduced? To you with this album like? Tell us your stories. Yeah, we'd love to hear from anybody so if there's anything else that we missed. Please hook us up, but otherwise yeah. Thanks for listening everybody Another wing casts podcast for you. Hope you enjoy hope you have enjoyed. If not I, it is what it is I guess. Thank you so much. Everybody hope to hear from everyone thanks. Peace Out. What kids? Better George? Thank goodness major. Government, green we'll be right back. Hi, I'm John Immature musician and dead, and I'm Harrison is younger brother Hitter, recovering knowing all and we host a podcast called played disc John is open, minded well-versed in music, theory and composition and Harrison is extremely online and flexible contrarian. 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Mom and Dad: Into The Unknown

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Mom and Dad: Into The Unknown

"The following podcast contains explicit language. Welcome to mom and dad are fighting. Slates parenting podcast for Thursday November seven. The into the unknown edition. I'm Jamila Mu a writer contributors to slates Karen Feeding Parenting column and Mother Tonight. Who six then we live in Englewood California Choice I'm a writer and editor at slate. An author how to be a family and I'm a dad of Lyra who's fourteen harper properties. Twelve you live in Arlington Virginia. My name is Ezekiel quake you on politics editor at New York magazine and father to James to have another boy on the way. Who's do on Thanksgiving? I live with my wife in Oakland. Holy Shit. Congratulations congratulations. Does your other child live with you too or uh-huh live together. That's good. I was hoping you all weren't having issues because two can be quite terrible I've heard but we're so excited to have you. I salute everyone who is a repeat customer. The baby store. I don't know if I'm built for it but I'm excited to hear to hear more about some of your experiences with all those children today on the show. We've got a question from a mom who's contemplating a move to make sure that her children can be near their father. I saw can relate and we're joined by slate writer Ruth. Graham later on the program was going to talk about her impending sense of dread about frozen to homestead amongst us does not have an impending sense of dread about frozen to Are we going to be stuck with another let it go style earworm or should we just allow our kids to indulge their cells in those terribly pleasant songs songs who's to say and we've got tramps and fails and recommendations as we always do so. Let's kick things off with you. Dan Do you have a triumph off or a fail for your parenting report card. This week I have a triumph that turned into fail usually. It's the exact opposite for me longtime listeners. Know that I consistently been my fails into triumphs There's no way do this this time. So last week Harper my younger daughter and her best friend Sheera era decided that they wanted to have a yard sale by which they met they wanted to salvageable and books and like crap that they happy meals or whatever and we were very into this idea because harper is a kid who really needs an activity so for a week a solid week like this was her activity. She was sorting things in her room. And she was putting putting price tags on stuff she was planning the sale of Shira and they had signed making dates where they made science to post around the neighborhood and they borrowed a cashbox from a neighbor and they were in charge of the whole thing and we gave them total autonomy over all the decision making always said was. Hey we'll help with the setup on Sunday but you're in charge of everything else and this seemed like the perfect plan but for one thing that my wife and I did not think of which really backfired on us. which is that all of a sudden last week? I'm driving driving down my street and I see in the median on steaks stuck into the into the grass he very charming hand-drawn sign and it says Yard Sale Sonny. I don't know eight. Am to one thirty PM and should not what have allowed these kids. Total autonomy should have stepped in and we should have told the art sale really only needs to be two hours long and it should start at eleven about so at seven fifteen in the fucking morning. Elliot I and Shears Dad Matt Rawle and now he's a fucking cold hauling tables and shit out of our basement. This was after after a late night. Out By the way which may have included some revelry And so even with extra hour we followed savings we were not loving it so this is just a great reminder. All parents that it is important to give kids autonomy and let them suffer the consequences of their decisions except for that often it. Is You to who ends up suffering the consequences that is the best triumph slash vail. I've heard thus far. Thank you you. How many customers did the girls have at eight o'clock in the morning in their five and a half hours of being open they had three customers the noted however two of them came of age o'clock hour? Wow wow so perhaps APPs. That was a blessing in disguise. Because they hadn't been opened and they may have only had one customer I guess he had other yard sales to go to. I guess good instincts right good instincts but maybe where they maybe were a little bit overly optimistic about how many people wanted to buy shit from happy meals. That is fantastic. Ezekiel how about you. Aside from your two year old getting an apartment of his own do you have a triumph. AH FOR AIRFIELD FOR US. This week I've fail so like I said we're expecting our second On thanksgiving ISH and so we. It would be a good idea to do this. Sibling Hospital class slash tour At the hospital that we're expecting the baby to be born for are for James and we went there on. Sunday is just me and James Because My wife was working and it was almost totally useless because I guess it was designed for Toddlers Hugh. We're just getting used to the idea that they're going to have a younger sibling And so obviously James Pretty familiar with the idea and so that was not that useful and then the highlight. I thought it was gonna be the hospital tour. But from the perspective aspect of a toddler. It was just like walking through some random hallways and then pressing some buttons on hospital bed so that too was not that useful and it would have been sort of like no harm no foul except that it messed up his naptime Along with daylight savings time him and so he has been cranky since Sunday. So it's just an example of like you sort of make a choice for a kid and you think it's going to be a good idea and the choice you made on. Their behalf was actually not a great idea right A. backfires not only in the in the in the expectable way but then in a bunch of not expectable ways And you end up with worse than when you started in in general is James. Do you get the sense of James's like into this. Is he ready and excited or no. He's very excited about the prospect of having a little a little brother and the prospect of Lake helping out with the baby was already even before we got pregnant. He was pretty excited. Sighted about babies in general like Ooh baby appeared on a show that he was watching WanNa rewind and see the baby again so he's pretty excited about it and I mean he had aww had a fun time at the tour because he's an extrovert and the other kids. He was having a ball but the the larger ramifications would probably not good like. I expected just to be so much worse. Because I thought maybe he'd like seeing you know somebody being wheeled by on a Gurney and state of emergency and now now he was terrified of hospitals or you know saw somebody screaming and labor as far as fails go That's not too bad. Ezekiel Hart was in the right place. Ace and your child has a nap time which I have to admit that was not a thing that I ever deeply committed to instituting. So maybe that's why my child's been cranky Aqui since two thousand and thirteen. But you're doing great and you're GonNa do it again. You're awesome to have failed this week I yesterday I woke up and I thought this I could get through an episode without me mentioning this because I do realize that moved here from New York work like a person and so I don't want to be that person who's constantly reminding everyone that I moved here from New York but I've only been here for about a month a a month in a week and so my body has yet to fully adjusts to California time so I some days unless I stay up late or you know maybe take take something to help me sleep. I tend to wake up between three four four thirty in the morning And I have to go back to sleep and I can't always do it and so so that happened yesterday and I changed my alarm to give myself an extra thirty minutes because usually I would wake up at six. I was up for a while at four in the morning. I was okay I can push Till six thirty still get the little out the door to school on time so at some point my daughter gets my phone which I use as the alarm. As many millennials do and she's takes it to play games and she goes in the living room and she's playing games and so I wake up at some point and and I noticed that it looks a little bit too sonny the sun just not where it should be for me to be opening my eyes for the first time and so I call it to her name. Or what. Time isn't isn't she says it's eight thirty and I'm like no look at the clock on the phone because I'm thinking she's looking at the clock in the kitchen. That hadn't changed it from daylight savings. She's like I am looking at the phone name was supposed to be at school by eight. Thirty five she for like two hours played on my phone and also turned turned off your alarm. I have so many alarms. I have so many alarms like I have the right right before I need to get up so I'm not a deep sleep anymore alarm and I have the time it needs to be up then I need fifteen more minutes just in case and then thirty minute like I have so many alarms she counted for there. Were probably more than that but she says she turned up for alarms and is the name of. What did you think was going to happen? Why didn't you wake me up view? You know what time you have to be a school. I don't know what time I have to be. A school is tonight. I don't believe that and even if you don't know the exact time I'm pretty sure you know that you have to be there in the eight o'clock hour our and there's eight thirty and you're sitting there playing games and I said why didn't you wake me up. She said well. I didn't want you to get mad at me. Essay were you prepared to live the rest of your life this way. How where does this end? How did you see this ending? And it has to remind myself that. She's six years old and so she wasn't thinking of the ending. All she knows that when I woke up she was going to be upset. So while I've been in the middle of trying to change everything In are scheduled role to make sure that we're at school Brighton early every day. which is a challenge for me time? It's not my thing. My child decided to just allow herself to our youtube vacation. And Yeah we got to school when we got to school so I fail. Can I just say that there is a deeper triumph embedded in this fail. I agree that this is a fail however if you can raise a child who's instinct at all times is mom's asleep. I better do not wake her up. Like that's GonNa benefits down the line. My kids don't have that has their impulses. If Dad's asleep he might be missing something so we better wake him up and make sure he knows enough and that's no good thinking they're basically a little. We're better I I will say. She showed some signs of that very early in life and I told her I'm going back to sleep. You can do what you need to do. Here's your little space. You can sit right next to me in the bid but I need to sleep until a reasonable hour so I think she knows better. Hopefully she knows to wake me up. When there's an emergency and in the future win she needs to go to school so thoroughly embarrassed myself once again? Let's move on and do some business. I'm super excited to remind you guys that Dan and I are going to be at the Miami Book Fair on November Twenty third for a special live edition of Mom and dad are fighting. We're going to be joined by Pamela Multiple From The New York Times Book Review and author of how to raise a reader and Amanda author of. Go the fuck to sleep and fuck now there are two of. You is ache. Yo that's it's just for you. This is going to be a free show. You can bring your kids if you like. I love meeting other people's kids. Our kids are not coming or you can get a babysitter and leave them at home. Uh either way. We're super excited to meet Florida listeners. You can even come to the club with Dannon. 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And if you'd like to email us the question of your own inherit on the show. Send it to mom and dad at slate dot com and and as usual. The question is being read by the one and only Shasha Leonard. Dear Mom and dad are fighting. I'm at a crossroads and not sure what to do. My seven. A nine year olds have always been ex-pats. I in the Middle East and now for the past four years in Southeast Asia three years ago their father and I separated both of us remaining in the same Asian city city. Their father loves them but he is not hugely active in their lives. Usually seeing them one evening or one day per week he does however provide a large portion of the money we need to live here between obligatory private schools and high rent. My Kids Love Their Dad. And whatever I think about him profound asshole I I always have gone out of my way to encourage as much interaction with him as possible. The separation was pretty devastating to all of us. But we're back on our feet now friends school. My career are all on track right now but my ex recently announced that he will be moving soon and as such will no longer contribute to our living in such a high cost city when I think about moving. I'm physically sick. Plus where would we go. I haven't lived in our European official home country for twelve years. It's also also quite expensive and I would have a much harder time as a single parent there. My kids don't even speak the language very well. Do I follow my ex to a place that I have no desire to live men and no job just to keep the contact between father and kids move to a different cheaper country in Southeast Asia. where the money I do have would go further other and start all over again? This time literally alone in the world with two kids go to nuclear lawyer route and just try to force my ex to keep ponying up school cool fees so we can stay here say fuck it and run away to open a surf shop in Indonesia. The last one was a joke. Sort of my goal is to find a solution. Shen that is best for the kids and doesn't make me totally miserable. What would you do? Thanks a lot Dan. What do you think there are a lot of questions? That I have stemming from this email that are not quite answered in the email like do you have an agreement with your ex spouse your ex partner Did you have a lawyer when you made that agreement. What country are you in? And what are the custody and child support laws like in that country all that that being said my initial impulses that there's no reason to think that just because he's moving out of town he no no longer has to chip in his fair. Share to support you in most cases and most kinds of custody arrangements. That's not the case. It's his decision to move out of town And that doesn't usually unilaterally require an ex spouse with kids to also move out of town and follow that person nor should it necessarily change the level of support that he's giving you but that's a little hard to figure out or navigate because I don't know whether you have an agreement whether Ziaul written up our weather everything has been based on handshake deals or the goodness of his heart. If that's the case then you're in a much tougher position But so my initial impulses say that you should fight if you like the life that you have if you think your kids are happy if you're happy with friends and a job that you like and the only thing keeping you from maintaining that as your XS unilateral decision that he doesn't want to pay for it anymore. I think you should fight that and you should fight it with a lawyer but but But what do you guys think this a lot of the same questions you down and my first impulse is to say to go talk to a lawyer too so you know what. Your options are Because he wanted to have the whole universe of options before you even start thinking about the decision making process and then the second thing I would say yeah I mean. It's a little bit difficult to answer. What would I do? Because we're talking about. Competing factors that are all about margins. Like how uncomfortable would you actually be if you try to stay on your own How much money would it require For are you to live in another southeastern east. Asian city How much money would you save by following your exit Cetera et Cetera? But I think the way I would think about it is I see if it's possible to to stay where you are and keep on living more or less as you have and then the second is to like really game it Out like how much money would it cost. What would your budget be if you lived back in the your home country? How much money would it be if you lived in Southeast Asia and decide sort of what's what's sustainable and then once you decide what sustainable then you can sort of think about the concerns of? Do you want your kids to be close to their father. Think about those factors but I I think you sort of want to know what's possible Jamila. You are a person who yeah. Yeah similar situation as this X.. With the obvious exception that this letter writer clearly does not like her ex. She's glad that our kids have relationship internship with the axe. That's valuable to her. She's the value in it but it's not like she is wants to like bend over backwards to make life easier for for this guy. That was not your situation exactly but I'm still very seriously you would have to say yeah. I I was very fortunate that my ex as as well as his wife Agreed to relocate from New York to California because I had some professional ambitions that brought me out the West You know it was a very difficult decision And for some years I'd wanted to leave New York and and we talked about it for about two years years before we ended up coming but even before that conversation was on the table I felt stuck. You know I felt like I have to live where they live because I can't function in the same way without you know constant support that this mom is not getting From her CO parent. You know In terms of did giving up time as opposed to just simply Relying on the financial support that he does and absolutely should be paying You know and keeping this child in a private school or whatever but I it's hard you know. It certainly relocating is an and I'm not going from country to country but just just a New York to California switch has been disorienting and emotional and was very difficult for me and so I'm so empathetic to you mom because because you've built a life that works for you and you finally found some peace and happiness and now the same person who robbed you of your peace and happiness In the past asked during your marriage and you know perhaps at the dissolution of your marriage in someone that you would have hoped didn't have that sort of power over your life anymore has again then flexed on you and made a decision based on what he thinks is best or what he wants or needs Without much regard for what that would mean for you and perhaps also for his children so with that I agree that you really need to sit down and figure out what it is that you want want to do. What do you need to do to create the sort of life that works for you and for your children where they have their needs smet and they have a good quality of life But also that you can have some of your desires met and most of your needs met and also enjoy your quality of life you. You are not collateral damage your experiences matter your career matters your happiness matters and I don't think you know what that looks like for you at this point fine because you're clear that you can't sustain what you're doing now with a reduction to support this you're getting from your ex-husband if you think that the best thing for we're used do at least temporarily while you figure things out is to remain where you are then get that lawyer you know. I think that I'm getting the impression from I'm from where you are and the sort of moves That you have made that your ax is a man of some means and if he was able to afford for paying for these things while he was there you know it seems reasonable enough to expect that he can afford to pay for them If he leaves but doesn't want to because has he doesn't fit into this picture of what he wants. Now you know he wants them to be close to him and so that also means being a place where he wouldn't have to pay for this really expensive schooling thing and so it's a win win but the only ones are going his direction So I think that you need to I do some soul-searching and perhaps talk to a therapist Mark Counselor or you know if nothing else a trusted friend or somebody who can help you really sort out your feelings and identify what you truly need. Didn't one right now and to proceed from there but you have absolutely no reason to be adverse to going to court or into mediation with your ex. Because he she has created a situation where that is perhaps the right thing to do and it's not about soup to his level and mirroring his lack of regard for you but But not allowing him to walk all over you just do what he sees fit. His lack of regard is really important. Really struck Jamila by you mentioning that in your situation. You guys talked about this for about two years before you pull the trigger There's none of that in this letter he made. He made a unilateral decision. He told the letter writer his decision. She's just supposed to adapt to it. And that sucks and it suggests that there might not be much reasoning to be done with him but I do nevertheless the last thing that it's worth in addition to talking to a lawyer talking to him frankly about this not accusingly but explaining the situation that this leaves you in in how difficult it is on you and how hard it would be on the kids. The other thing I would suggest is whatever the end result of the says whether you end up living in the same places him are in a totally different place from him. I think you really need to explore a more formalized custody arrangement you have here at x a father father who has some theoretical interest in being connected to his kids in the sense that he wants them to live in the same place with him but he clearly wants to just be able to drop in whatever it is convenient to him. You say that he comes on some weekends but not all weekends You never know right. Now he's going to show up or when he's GonNa show up and so whatever the end result of this is I hope that you also formalize a real agreement as to when he's not just going to visit the kids but when the kids are going to be his responsibility if you end up in different places one way that you can maybe pitch that to him or sell that to him as the kids can do like summers with him. That's it's a very traditional arrangement when XS end up living in different cities or in different countries for them to be with one parent during the school year are for them to spend an extended period of time during the school holiday In the other place with the other parent Having like an extended experience and extended time with that. And that's a way for him to feel like he still getting that experience of living in the same place with them without necessarily overturning spending spending their lives. I agree and I think that's Very reasonable and fair thing to do and what I hate that. I'm reading from this letter and I hope that I'm wrong. I don't see the father being terribly interested in having that time with the children you know. And perhaps this conversation will help him to realize where he hasn't been fully active even engaged parent. And and you know theoretically a non custodial parent spending two days. A week with their kids is not Considered a short amount of time but but that he made this decision without discussing it with the lack of regard for the parent oftentimes speaks to a lack of regard for the children children. You know I I think that if there's nothing else that we Those of us who are no longer with The people to whom we had children. If there's one thing that we can do for our kids it's figuring out a way to have respect and care for their other parents I don't know how I would function if my ex did not have the maturity and the grace to show that to me and it was something that you know at a point where I was upset and unhappy. I had to tap into Because I realized it was in the child's the greater good so mom it sounds like you've already made some concessions and have been willing to be the bigger person and I'm sorry that it's falling on your lap again but Dan's right. You really need to have a serious conversation With your excellent. Perhaps there's a middle ground you know it could be that. He's continues to pay for the schooling and the whatever for other investment he's made financially in terms of keeping you guys lifestyle the way it is now in Southeast Asia for a certain the amount of time giving you the opportunity to figure out what you WANNA do next or to create another stream of income CETERA. So Ezekiel guilty of anything else. You WanNa add. Yeah I want to wanted to add that one. I don't think she should She definitely shouldn't feel guilty. If you decide. Not so you follow her ex that she's robbing her children of their relationship with their father sort of his decision And so I I don't think any me guilty about that. Trade entered into the equation. And the other thing I think is the way that she framed it at the end of her letters that she wants the best for kids kids and she wants to not be too miserable. I think it's important for her to to weigh her own happiness When she makes her decision decision because if he's miserable that's children even if they're in sort of a what seems to be an objectively the ideal circumstance if she's miserable or unhappy That's GONNA filter down to them. So I think she should weigh her own her own satisfaction our own happiness in the equation. That's a very good point along those lines. I would say why the Fuck Nado conserve a surf shop in Indonesia. Like it's not a terrible idea. It's not the worst idea you ever had. Yeah along those lines. I think she should be very broad about what sorts sorts of things that she's open to and be creative about solutions and I also think it's to emphasize what Dan said. Elsa think to give herself the time to figure out what to do next think she should have a conversation with her ex and see if he can continue to contribute to that she can figure out what to do next since it was his decision. Decision to sort of unilaterally drop this in her lap and force it to adjust. I think sort of the least that can be done is that he continues to contribute at least until she figures out what she wants to do. What our plan is very good points very good points? Thank you for reaching out letter writer and we hope that we were at least somewhat somewhat helpful and if you are listening and want us to be somewhat helpful to you please send us an email at mom and dad at sleet dot com all right. Let's take a quick break. This episode is brought to you by Casper. Listen you spend about a third of your life sleeping so you should be comfortable. EMBIID CASPER IS ASLEEP brand. It makes expertly designed products to help you get your best rest one night at a time. I am speaking from experience I am proud Casper mattress owner and it is one of the most comfortable products that I have ever used. 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It's been five years since Disney released frozen and it's been five long long long years of kids belting out let it go In time to their parents Chagrin and now frozen to is on the horizon winter is coming. Slate writer Ruth. Graham recently wrote about the release of the the next Big Elsa Song into the unknown by panic at the disco. And she's here to talk about how we can prepare pair ourselves for the return of frozen and all things that come with it. Hey route thank you for joining us. Can you please tell us a little a bit more about yourself and what kind of parenting you're doing. Yeah my name is Ruth Graham I'm a staff writer at slate and I have a four year old daughter Mary. She's my only kid and she loves let it go. She loves that. We just went through the kind of peak of that phase as I think about a year ago and it's been mercifully fading over the course of Twenty nineteen but I I fear a comeback. Now can you tell us about this new song. Aw and and where you I heard it what role it seems to play in the movie. Yeah so I I heard heard it coming out of my daughter's mouth of Over the weekend I think I just heard her kind of like murmuring the words I didn't recognize it which is odd because you know she's just it's four. I kind of hear everything. She listened to. What the exception of a few little preschool songs? That I don't know and then it turned out that my husband had been been watching the The trailer frozen too with her She loves frozen so they'd been watching this trailer. There's a snippet of the song and the trailer it's called into into the unknown the emotional arc Israeli similar between let it go So let it go kind of starts Queen Elsa and she's like running away from the town. She's all by herself. She starts very closed up. And she's like regretful and worried and then over the course of the song she'd like embraces these magic powers she has has She builds this huge sparkling ice castle at this point in the movie and she like changes into this sexy dress. which is the part of the video? I really hate. But it's admittedly very irresistible. She liked lets her hair down and she just like fully embraces her powers and it seems like we don't know a lot about what the plot of frozen too will would be like. It's coming out in a few weeks But the sound of into the unknown. It's the same singer it's going to be signing the movie by Edina Menzel They've released the version that will run over the credits which is kind of like a pop version of it by a panic at the disco that came out this week? So that's why we know all the lyrics already but in the movie it'll be sung by Demons L. and it's the same songwriters and it's like it seems like it's Elsa kind of once again struggling with her powers our like feeling this urge to kind of bust out and then over the course of the song like embracing that so she says everyday's a little harder. I feel my power grow. There's a part of me that longs to go into the unknown and it's this like soaring Ballad So for toddlers that's like like that's the toddler credo is like wanting to bust left out of constraints and like wanting to go wild and Both of these songs seemed to kind of hit that same note so it does seem like they're going for a let it go style hit and it seems plausible to me it will. It will become that so we'll see it hasn't taken over my house yet but it's it has all the ingredients so I'm curious to know what everyone else's kids relationship to frozen is. Dan are your kids like are they too old to be interested in the second. One at this point Ezekiel has your little one seen or heard anything from frozen At all yet. I thought that they were too old to be interested. Ed In frozen to they both were fairly into frozen When it first came out Harper especially issues a little younger at that point? She he definitely citing let it go for like two straight years but I thought at this point. They're fourteen inch wall. They're not going to give a shit about that movie for babies and then the trailer came out harper instantly. It was like I want to see that so now I think I potentially also fucked James Seen you actually watch frozen for the second time yesterday. And he's sort of kind of indifferent to it like he'll sit and watch kind of long attention span for for a two year a year old. But he's not like enamored by it and he's not like obsessed with what it go like. My nephew was my nephew who is six. Now I believe He was like let it goes like heroin or something to him And it would like instantly calmed down and like he didn't have a long attention span but he would like Focused very intently for the course of the music video showed it to him. So James is not not that into it but it's happened before that he's watched something and not been that into it. And then like on the third or Fourth Watch it clicks. He gets obsessed with it. So we're we're sort of in a state of anticipation and then and endings About the prospects of him getting obsessed with your daughter crazy about frozen so she's not so she's in So complicated it's like Naima a six so she was super super young when the first frozen came out which means she was only watching and and coming across things that we introduced to her. You know like she wasn't even able to take Geico phone and and just kind of look at Youtube by herself stumble upon something that we didn't necessarily want her to see And Her dad and I had agreed Informally so you know. We weren't really trying to do too much of the Disney princess thing because most of the princesses are white. You know or or read. I should say we agree. It was that she wasn't going to have white doll she. She wasn't going to be fixated on blonde hair and blue eyes and that we were going to focus on exposing her to images of black girls who were heroes and and princesses or any number of things that we really wanted to get that down tight Before the world challenged it and then when she was a little bit older you know stuff like this will be totally fine and so. I'm very picky in terms of the kids. Movies actually enjoy watching or want to see because she has a sibling. At Dad's house kind worked out that I was the one who oftentimes showed her stuff. That was maybe made for adults. But okay for kids like the new edition story which was which remains in our house. After three years at this point daughters obsessed with Bobby Brown of all people and so one day and I knew that frozen wasn't earworm and that every other parent I it was dealing with it. But I hadn't shown it to her and she hadn't mentioned seeing it or anything so I thought we were just in the clear and like she just randomly start singing in a store and I was. It's like wait. Where did you hear that? How did that get to you? And she'd seen Volun- love and I know it's a good feminist story or so I've heard because I have actually actually never seen frozen and have no intention on seeing frozen too but I don't know if you are frequent target shoppers like I am but recently they unveiled a very big display and most of their stores dedicated to frozen to frozen to merchandise. And I'm like devastated it because they had it in the place where I was getting the Their vintage designer collaboration stuff so they literally took my happy place and turned it into frozen land. So I know the the the call is coming. She's going to be into it. She's GonNa want stuff. It's incredible it's like everywhere and Mary will see it and be like Oh mom look. It's also like it's that's incredible coincidence when it's like mass culture girl like this is not like the you've found this incredible coincidence that this obscure thing that you love is at target it describing the piece Your daughter's initial love her. Let it go has like at first slightly charming you describe it as babies ABC. I Phantom like the first thing. She found organically outside the house and brought home. That then you as parents have to deal with and obviously that fades after. You've heard the song ten gazillion times. But I'm curious. Is there anything else in. Mary's life is filled that role and for the rest of our hosts. What is the thing that is in your house? Now that your your kid is obsessed with and they came about it completely organically from the internet or from friends or whatever and you wish that it would evaporate tomorrow I think for me let it go is the biggest one it was. It was kind of sweet at first because yeah it was kind of like her own discovery. And you know another another thing. Is that at this age like her peers. They can't read or write and memorizing songs like this and like passing them around is a kind of currency. See like they they they have an oral culture basically right so they memorize these things and they work on them together and like you know seeing them together and then bring them into their own house and work on it. I think there is something kind of sweet about that. I there's a few other. There's some like jump jump jump. Baby Shark is another one that she picked up at Preschool. I think it's like it's an interesting phenomenon before it gets to the point that drives completely out of your mind. I can't think of anything thing. He sort of too old too young to bring stuff from the outside so all of our media that's annoying is sort of like our our own making like it's our fault that he knows about it He has this. There's this youtube channel that has truck songs They're basically songs about particular kind of truck that are done in different pop styles and We showed those to him like like a year ago and he is absolutely obsessed with them and always demands to watch them and they are sweet at first and sort funny at first but after a year of them Like every day or every other day. They're pretty much intolerable So that's I think that's our big one other than that. I think we've been able to keep sort of a a lid on the annoying children's media when you have a twelve and fourteen year old. The thing that comes into your house all the time. are memes and our house lead speak and Internet speak and every time And you know I'm not twelve or fourteen but I do work Internet magazine. I am on twitter a lot. I see memes later that cool people but I still see them And so every time that Lyra like refers to a meme or says some Internet thing and I know what she's talking about out she looks at me like my head is turned into the face of them she just cannot believe that she's always so betrayed. Eight at the idea that something that she thought she knew actually wasn't wider knowledge. To the extent that a dumb grownup like me what I know about it so the only good thing I would say. Hey about kids bringing in stuff that they believe is solely around his sometimes you can break their hearts and make them understand that. Actually everyone knows that shit. That is very true. Well obviously I expose my child to a lot of non kid stuff especially in terms of music. But she is currently fixated on Disney descendants. Like it is the thing you for those who are not aware it is a series of films. There have been three of them. I don't think they're gonNA be anymore About the children of Disney princesses Princes and villains so ursula daughter and sleeping beauty's daughter and they've got ten of course between the good guys and the bad guys and it's very well done and very cute but like it's not just the movies. It's all of the youtube videos about the movies. It's people posting spoilers now granted. She's seen all the movies he says. There's no point in watching the videos but those are also interesting and interviews with the cast and fan videos and it is very presence in our life but I will say I prefer Disney descendants to frozen any day so I hope to she keeps with it because it's kind of cute two main Jamila. You mentioned this on the show recently. And you mentioned that the reason they wouldn't have another Movie is that one of the CAST members died a horrible tragic incident that is widely known among descendants fans and I thought that by my kids and they they already understand Dan capitalism because they were both like. Oh they'll definitely do another one. They'll just like write a thing about how that character tragically done. No no no and it's crazy. It's such a cute story that another one would be really nice to have but it's also like like every. She watches videos about this young man cameron boys and every the time I'm like. How are you not balling? I'm like devastated. I WANNA go. Hi Thinking about this young man dying and she's like oh it's okay well. He wasn't dead in the movie. Kind of creepy actually route. Thank you so much for joining us. Again she ate it and have fun with all that frozen stuff thank you. I'm I'm heading into the unknown into the unknown but don't panic it's not a disco. It's a children's movie and Indiana Menzel. Voice sounds like an elevator debater to Willie Walker's Pancake House and I'd prefer to avoid forever. Okay before we get out of here recommendations Suzuki. Oh why do you have for us. So my son's favorite movie I think is the Laura axe the nineteen seventy-two to musical version and I really like it. Because it's it has a lot of index adults. It's sort of the same form as how the grinch stole Christmas which was made I think eight years before the Laura Sorta the same form you sort of have Following the story fairly closely. And then you have some Musical numbers And he likes it. I like it has a good message. I feel like that's pretty pretty much all you can ask for in children's media it's and it's about half an hour so it's good to get time linked in which he can he can finish it but it's not so short that you're endlessly repeating the same thing over and over and over again So glorious to get recognition please additionally recommend and does he killed never ever show him the more recent Laura movie that came out just a few years ago which is just awful. Even like the the picture of the Laura accidents sort of detestable to me of the of the new C.. Laura I avoid showing that to him I can do little log rolling and my recommendation and Classic Sleet Style I'm going to recommend recommend a new podcast from slate. Dot Com hosted by me It's called the Authority Very I. I my understanding is it's quite good. it's called the authority and it's a podcast about the materials the HBO series and the Books Longtime listeners. To the show you know that this has been a series that has been very important to me and my family. We named our older daughter after the main character in the series and and I've recommended it in a bunch of different ways over time and so we're we've watched US weekly podcast it's Laura Miller asleep critic And each week we're talking about what happens on. HBO Show but we're also going to try to delve a little bit deeper. Into the worlds of those Phillip Pullman novels I'm explaining and exploring different aspects of their cosmology and world building as we go through this. This first episode was about the very first episode of of the show which was called Lila's Jordan. So he talked about what happened in that episode and whether it was good or bad and what worked and didn't but we also talked a lot more about Jordan Jordan College. Leave you've fictional yet. Still sort of based on reality college with an Oxford where his dark materials begins. Find it wherever you find your podcasts. And and Listen and we would love to. Have you join us. If you are watching the show Jamila what about you. Well my recommendation. This week is free moving as expensive insist so This is a great time for me to have something cool that I'm into that doesn't cost any money. And I'm sure other parents might appreciate that I'm recommending Improv Improv. ING with your children. You don't have to do like a full out Improv. Game or get a book or anything like that but just playing. I don't want to call it a role play because because it has such a different connotation than it did In the past but just taking on a character could be a character from a story Harry Bouquet. You can be Elsa and Anna from frozen you can be to completely made up characters let your kids come up with a scenario and just stay in character and you can be in the character while you're in the grocery grocery store while you're having dinner while you're driving to school. It is a very fun and easy way to be silly with your kids and I will say that I who I love to laugh and tell jokes don't always feel super comfortable getting goofy and silly. It's just not my natural vibe but doing improv allows me me to kind of go there and and relax and just have fun

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Elisabeth Moss

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

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Elisabeth Moss

"Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of maximum fun, Dot Org and is distributed by NPR. Coming to you from my house, it's Bullseye and Linda Holmes Infra. Jesse Thorn I'M NPR pop culture, correspondent and the host of pop culture. Happy Hour, our guest this week is Elizabeth Moss. No Elisabeth Moss right June and the handmaid's Tale Zoe from the West, wing Peggy and madman. On a second. You want me to work up an entire corporate image campaign for ten dollars. I can make you do it for nothing I'm the boss. You're right. The work ten dollars. The lion's extra. Incredible. What do you make a weeks? Don't know That's hope you know. I could fire you. Great. There's some portfolios and Jones office. Maybe you could find somebody tonight. Why are you doing this to me because you're being very demanding for someone who has no other choice? Dasell me. There's something about the way Moss carries herself onscreen right when she takes the lead role. especially she has the confidence and poise of a veteran actor. Who's been doing this for decades, and that's probably because she has been doing this for decades. She's acted professionally since she was eight years old and apart from a couple years in her early teens. She hasn't really taken a break. Her newest movie is. Is called Shirley. Elizabeth lays Shirley. Jackson the real life author of the lottery and the haunting of Hill House. Here's the premise. It's the early sixties Shirley as living in Vermont with her college professor. Who is Stanley played by Michael? Stool Barg, their marriage is struggling Shirley's reclusive. She struggles with depression and anxiety Stanley for his part is a serial womaniser who doesn't really take Shirley seriously as an author. Then they take in some guests, a young Ta of Stanley and his wife. Things escalate, get more tense, but in the midst of all the drama something else happens Shirley finds inspiration for her new novel. Let's listen I have a title, Hangs Aman. It's about that girl. The missing one the Weldon girl. What do you think? You haven't said much. It's just an idea. I try during college. Girls sounds trite in a bit trashy but to. Give it a go. I'll read of course. For you, too. It's going to take some time. Don't give it to me and a couple of days. It's enough. No dear, that's. You're not. You're just not up to it. You're wrong. Darling! You haven't been out of the house in two months. Barely, able to? Put on a pair of stockings. He's back. That's all I'm saying. Elizabeth Moss welcome to Bullseye. Thank you very much very happy to be here. So the relationship between Stanley and Shirley as you as you hear it in, that clip is really intense, but most of what you learn about. It comes from scenes like that where they're talking about her writing. In general, it's I think it's really hard to make writers talking about writing interesting. How did you? How did you watch that problem of of making people understand a character based largely on on writing that they're not getting to read You know you have a you have a script written by Sarah guns honestly because I. do think that you're seeing is absolutely correct I. do think it's actually really difficult to do and the way that she wrote the script. Somehow, it just wasn't a problem you just. It was somewhere between a bio pic of surely and of Shirley's stories itself. You know she really. Really balanced that so well, and you're right. It's an incredibly difficult thing to do. Yeah, the scene in which Stanley finally reads the draft of the book, I don't think it's too much of a spoiler, but it's the very rare seen. That felt totally original to me on an emotional level. Can you tell me a little bit about the approach to what Shirley is thinking in that it's initially kind of ambiguous scene. You don't know exactly what's going on. You're looking at Shirley's face. You're looking at her reactions. Is that kind of the the pivotal scene I? Surely Do you think yeah? Definitely definitely? has this opportunity to kind of show in one scene one of the most important things about her which? Which is that? She cares more about her work than anything else. The only thing she cares more about than her work is what Stanley thinks of her work and it you. We had this one scene in this one sort of opportunity to show it. It wasn't written that it was all going to be in that one take and that we were going to stay on that. Close Up, we or shot we. You know covered it, but it was just the way the the way. The JOSEPHINA ended up cutting it, which I was obviously very flattered by but I think it's right. Because I think you have to show all of the emotions that someone like Shirley would feel in that moment, the fear, the being angry at herself for being nervous, being angry, at Stanley for making her nervous, really desperately wanting him to like the story. You know all of covering all up when he walks over I. mean you kind of had to show all of those those bits? Its Genre Darling. That's stymying you. It's. Not your arena. and. Frankly it's beneath you. Keep your theories to yourself. You didn't know her. Don't tell me that I. do not know this girl. I might have walked by a dozen times on campus. There's nothing fascinating about this girl except that she's gone. What does she done? You don't know your subject. She's a nothing. Is She doesn't and dozens of girls like this littering campuses across the country. Lonely girls who cannot make the world see them. Do not tell me I do not know this girl, don't you dare? For people who haven't read the novel that this is based on which is by Susan scarf marital. How would you explain the relationship between this? Shirley Jackson and the the actual biographical Shirley Jackson. Well I think it's hugely fictionalized. We obviously left her children out. which is a big a big thing. And she was actually a wonderful mother, even even though she was dealing with. Mental Illness and addiction She was a wonderful wonderful mother by all accounts and we you know for the purposes of the story. They weren't in it. So that's a huge departure I wouldn't look too closely. At the timeline of things in our movie, little bit non linear, but I think what we were trying to do. Or what Sarah the writer was trying to do, and what I loved about it was. It was just this sort of slice of life I feel like you could make five movies about Shirley. Shirley Jackson and Stanley like their whole lives. What I felt like this was was just a little bit of a slice of her as it was, it was her writing process and her writing process specifically at that time, which was the lottery had just come out hugely successful, all of a sudden was famous, and was also experiencing infamy because she. You know a lot of people. wrote a lot of hate mail about the lottery. It was very divisive and here she was embarking on this sort of sophomore effort, and it was always about that process as a writer. Had you read a lot of Shirley Jackson? I'd only read the lottery in the hunting of Hill House. I think that's a common duo for people. Exactly I feel like that's like the Shirley Jackson one. Oh One, so then. Yeah, then I had the opportunity to obviously go and read on. I believe most of her work. I may have missed a couple sort stories at some point, but I believe a become a little bit of an Aficionado. Yeah I WANNA talk a little bit about madness I think it's hard to look across your career. Particularly Post Madman, and not see this theme of women and madness. It's there in Shirley, talked about pretty explicitly, but it's also there in her smell. It's there in handmaid's tale. It's their us, maybe most explicit. We in the invisible man, sometimes women who are driven to madness some of whom have their normal responses defined. Find his madness. It's always hard for me to know what to make of those. The magic echoes I guess in Actors Work What. Do what do you make of them? If anything and I, can I'm sort of fascinated by the idea of madness in fascinated by? I haven't answered it I don't have the answers, but I'm very fascinated by the questions and I'm fascinated by the idea of when we start categorizing especially a woman as crazy and obviously the invisible man dealt with a lot is I was actually just a straight up story about gas lighting, but I think there's other things that I've done like you said that deal with it. in in different ways whether it's smell with addiction, or with with Shirley and her incredible imagination You know I pass by the question. Question of at what point do we start calling this person crazy, you know. Are they crazy for just being honest or they crazy for thinking that this guy is after them and trying to kill them I oh, now I don't know the answers i. just find the questions really fascinating and and I think as well. It's just much more fun for me as an actor to play somebody who's losing their mind than it is to play somebody who's happily sitting at home with their two cats like I am. You're also. You're a producer on Shirley as you are. On handmaid's tale, and as you have been on some of the other projects that you've done in recent years. What what are the big benefits of producing for you? Honestly the number one benefit is. I have such a better knowledge of the material and the character as a producer I think that's the thing that people don't necessarily think about an often I have to kind of explain that the start of a process that it's not about me. Going I won't control. I want ownership, which is probably the second reason that I love it and certainly nothing to be ashamed, though but I think especially as a woman in this business, but I think the number. One thing for me is I actually. Actually learn so much more about the project that we're doing by being a producer on it I. I have conversations with the writer that I wouldn't have had I have a relationship with the production designer. I have a relationship with director that I wouldn't have had I. know why we have cast this person. I know why we're shooting in this location I know why this color is chosen for this wall and for me, that actually just informs the character that I'm building and it gives me this deeper. More hands on knowledge of the material I've done projects where I am not a producer, obviously many many many many times in my career, and honestly I think the one recently that I've done where usually producer? I find I. Know Them so much better and I knew that character so much better so for me. It's actually informed my acting in a way that I. Don't think I expected. Yeah, it's interesting that you talked about the the visuals on colors and things like that because I think particularly in in the handmaid's tale that's been such a a big part of the conversation around that project, and you know very often as a as a viewer when I'm I confronted with some of the visuals in that show like some of the handmaid's in Washington this last season. Who had the rings in their mouths? Those are really jarring visuals. Do they ever freak you out a little bit? No. No not not in a bad way, I quite honestly love. In fact, it's funny with that the. I don't know what you would call it I can't remember what we call it. The stapling of the of the mouth together that we did on the show. One of my notes on that episode on that cut was to hold that shot longer yeah, so we could really see it, so the audience could really was confronted with that image for a couple of seconds longer I, just thought that was important, so I, I love that stuff I have. I don't have a lot of. Fear of the darker things in life I relished. I'm quite truly. In work not in my everyday life. This new question I mean those images are meant to be jarring. Affective but I often think like when I watch a scene where. There are all of these people surrounded by women who are dressed in this way or at the Lincoln Memorial or whatever that it's just it's a lot to take in and I it always seems like it would be an intense experienced it to act in as well. Yeah, it's definitely intense. I wouldn't say I sort of just like you know. balk around with a smile on my face like a maniac I. It's definitely intense in and I feel it, but I but I think that that there are things in life that are intense, and I think that you know so interesting to memorial stuff was. Probably yeah probably. One of my most enjoyable and also intense days of shooting shooting that scene those scenes in the Lincoln memorial place that has been built to celebrate human rights and celebrate freedom and. And what this country is supposed to stand for, and then whatever thing was happening in the news that day? Sure for sure from the the one bill that house down the street. was really affecting an and I think that I feel but I feel sort of privileged I. Guess be in the position to tell that story and to be confronting with an audience in that way. So how has the experience of handmaid's tale been different from? The experience of Madman. They obviously have parallels in that they are both they both in really successful. They're both really buzzed about. They're both really know well regarded. How do you compare those two experiences I soon? The being a producer makes this one very different are there? Are there other things that are either parallel or not so parallel? She yeah I think being a producers is probably the biggest thing. It's odd to me now to think back actually on madman, and how sometimes they get us questions about it and I'm like I don't know. I wasn't a producer I don't know how that way you know. I mean it worked out fine. I didn't need to be a producer on that one. Everyone did a great job, but So you know worked out all right I think that's the biggest difference is the involvement I mean. On Madman I would go in for my work and then I would leave and you know I. I've worked four days and then have three days off, and and now as a as a producer and especially on handmaid's steel I'm there every single day? Every single hour and when I go home, I'm watching dailies or cuts or writing notes. A different periods we have. You know six seven episodes that we're working on at the same time and I basically kind of only get like a month off in the year when we're really actually not in post or not in Prepar, not in production, so it's it's yeah, it's I think that's the biggest. That's the biggest difference. Yeah, did you? Do you have a a specific kind of Post Madman career strategy or was it mostly kind of one project at a time. One at a time. Who Ever. I've never really had strategy so I kind of like. If it ain't broke, you know I, think the only thing I kind of thought was that I would maybe do a TV show? Again so quickly and look how that turned out So I blew my own strategy out of the water. I guess I just you know. Yeah. I know real strategy and never had one I. Just look for the good material and try to get them to cast me in it. What makes something pop out for you as good material? Are you envisioning yourself? Are you envisioning yourself acting in it, are you? Does it. Does it just resonate on a pure script and writing level what pops out for you as I really WanNa? Go pursue this. I WanNa go and do this. I think for me especially over the last few years as I've gotten the opportunity to choose what I want to do, you know in the beginning year you know you're just you doing the jobs that you that you get you know you've got to work, and you've got to make money, and so you're just doing the jobs that you that you get hired for, and then I guess over the last like five years or so I've definitely been able to be more choosy and I. Think the thing that I look for is is purely one hundred percent. This ripped. It doesn't matter any nothing else matters. It has to be a good script. And I guess what makes it a good script for me, personally, besides just the obvious thing of it's like interesting and good to read, and well written is the however I guess I think maybe it might be. Right for me. Is I start to kind of do it in my head. I start to think about what it would look like and I start to see the lines in my head, or maybe even out loud I start to kind of. Play the character, a little bit not like out, not like in my apartment like a crazy person, but just in my head. And I think that for me is the connection than I look for now as far as what what what? What should I do personally? It was interesting to me watching you in the invisible man because I had never seen you in quite that pure of a of a thriller, and as we talked about before it's really a gas, lighting and madness story, but the other thing about it for me to be honest was the fact that it has such effective. Fight scenes and the trick is. Whenever you have someone fighting an invisible person, it can look incredibly corny. It can look like the cheapest special effect in the world, which is I'm fighting an invisible monster, but these are incredibly scary and unsettling fight scenes I've seen a little bit of a feature at about the guy in the green suit fighting with you. Can you talk a little bit about the choreography and execution of those fight scenes? Yeah, totally yeah, that was I mean that's basically what it was. It was incredible stunt performer in a green suit that I worked a lot with rehearsed a lot with. We did a lot of I wouldn't call it training. I mean I'm not like you know not to Raider over here. It's just we did a lot of like practicing the the moves and practicing the and working it out working out, the fight would be working out. What would be scary working out what I could do? What looked scary? He was fantastic and. Then came. There were times when I did have to do it by myself. For visual effects and I'm telling you that Phelps so stupid. I can't moving. So embarrassing having to pretend to be fought. It's just the worst I hope that never happens to anybody it's it's so embarrassing, but mainly it was. It was working with him and and. Yeah it's not that it's not that hard. If you're actually like working with somebody in pushing and pushing against someone, you know. Right so the difficult parts of the parts where you're just, it really is just you. Yes, and thank God that was just for visual effect so that they can have like that pass, 'cause. I don't know for some technical reason that they need it. That's the only time I actually had to do it by my by myself. Because it really does feel stupid. I had to do one saying once where he. Grabs my neck or something, and that was just me doing it and I felt like such an idiot. There you are. That invisible guy gave you pretty good. Beating put into the fridge dragged the around Oh. I know it was it was it was really fine? Honestly, it made me want to do an action movie and I'm actually kind of tried to figure it. Out It was so fun, it was so fun to be so physical to use my any strength. I had to get stronger. You know to to to like workout and take care of my body in that way and I really I had such a great time. It was very difficult because I am not a stunt performer, and I'm actually not even a incredibly athletic person, but it was it was. Kind of. Great? Loved it. You were a dancer for a long time. Though right. Yes, I was so I guess I should I'm not. I'm not allowed leading bursts anymore. I should say. I have to assume though that it that when you're trying to figure out something like that, it's it's probably an advantage to the people who are coordinating it to be working with somebody who? Has Done Choreography before actually? Yes, you're absolutely right, and you know the one thing that actually really helps. My ballet training was. We had this special camera that we used that? I'M GONNA? Forget the name of now because they have been doing press for six hours, but it was a camera that was very very cool, and it operated on counts specific counts so the winery. Yes, so the choreography of the fight this it would. The camera would. Was would count out loud to and one and two and three and everything was on the counts. So, I was like Oh. This is perfect. I did this forever like I do this I can remember okay that I'm supposed to raise my arm on A. An eighteen and a half like I can do that. It was very interesting. I I never thought that that skill would come in handy in such a way. Yeah, it's because I've never heard of I've never heard of a camera that the counts out loud. I know I mean someone. If anyone's listening to this and wants to text me with that cameras called. It was very much appreciate. Yeah. I do WANNA. Play you since we're talking about your. You're acting history and your dance history. You started acting very young right? Yeah, I was about six and you know when I looked you up on when I looked up your IMDB page, which of course is a very imprecise and imperfect way to to survey someone's career, unlike a lot of people who start acting when they're six, there are big gaps of sort of stopped acting. Disappeared off of the the out of that business for long periods of time, you seemed to kind of bridge. All of that pretty successfully. Yeah, I guess so I mean there was a period when I twelve to fourteen when I didn't act much that much, because I was I was very formative time for a dancer writer, auditioning for schools, and it's it's. It's crazy that it's that young, but it is, and so there was a time from twelve to fourteen when I don't think I did as much but yeah. I guess I pretty much steadily steadily kind of worked not in not in a lot of stuff that people saw, but I was working. Well then I mean I think I think I. Probably I saw you in the West Wing not a bad. That's not a bad place to spend a few years. No. It was certainly not a bad place to to work it was. Really I mean I was seventeen when I started that show, and it was incredibly formative in not just my career, but in in my idea of how you are supposed to beyond set, and how every single one of those actors was so professional and so kind and funny, and took their work seriously, but not themselves seriously and I think that that really kind of taught me how you're supposed to be. And I fell in love with a foul Nova television. Yeah. Can we listen to a clip from suburban commando I think we have to listen to a clip from suburban commando if you have one absol-. Glowing got so. This is one of your it. This is one of your first movie roles. This is Nineteen ninety-one suburban commando starring Christopher Lloyd and Hulk Hogan Hulk Hogan plays an alien who spacecraft breaks down. I love this description. How is this a best log line ever? Hulk Hogan plays an alien who spacecraft breaks down, and he gets stranded on earth. In the Los Angeles suburb of Van Nuys Rented Garage apartment from Christopher Lloyd and his suburban family. To vehicle for Hulk Hogan to to lift and throw heavy objects, and in this scene, a young Elizabeth Moss playing a little girl who keeps losing her cat in a tree. The alien comes along to rescue the cat. But sends her flying through the air. Instead. That's roll the clip. Mike. Are you sure. vicks! Get A goldfish. All Right, what do you? What do you remember about suburban commando? So we're talking about this I. I! Remember everyone was very nice including hulk. Hogan and I remember taking it very seriously. and treating it. You know not dissimilar to the way that I treat the handmaid's tale. It was very her. You know obviously it was it. Was I I? Think it was my first movie. My first real move my way picture made her studio town. I done a TV movie I think, but I think it was my first feature and. I took it seriously. I mean it was A. Big Deal for me in big stars Hulk Hogan very big at the time. Christopher Lloyd obviously alleged absolutely You know and I took it i. took it just as seriously as i. take anything anything now honestly. that's my my. That's my memory of my memory of it. Is I took it seriously, of course. Why would you not I think it's her? Reflect I pretty sure. It's reflected in the work. If you go back and look at it. It's like watching Claire, Danes my so called life, or are you say it's a? Big Out there. That girly lost the cat. She's going to be big. A ditch is it true 'cause I can't remember where I heard this is. Were you a voice? In a frosty? The snowman cartoon US was in frosty returns frosty returns. Yes, which seriously to a hundred percent took it seriously, and that was with John Goodman. Oh, well, yes, he played frosty ending. How cool is that? I couldn't sit in there anymore. Holly I started getting a cramp and I got this freezer burn. You shouldn't be out here. Nah I think I finally found a place where the snow is here to stay and Ice Castle. Be there for long. What are you talking about? I just came from a school. All the kids were screaming. No more snow, no more snow. Was Terrible. What did you say nothing? I was too scared whenever I tried to talk. My mouth gets all dry and my hands get all. I. Let you down, didn't. Know Kid. Maybe. It's time you try to different approach. You weren't playing around with these early roles. I really wasn't I was like. Let me just pick out like all these like legendary men John Goodman from my mom. My mom is from Chicago I've spent a lot of time in Chicago. And I'm a big Chicago Cubs Fan, and so obviously working with somebody like John, Goodman was very You know big deal big deal in my family. Big Deal in every anywhere everyone's family. Yes, the Star of many of beloved film, of course, my family so I I remember meeting him at the recording studio. On that one. We'll have even more with Elisabeth Moss when we come back from a quick break, stick around its bullseye from maximum fund, dot, Org and NPR. James Host of minority corner which is a high caste that's all about intersection hosted by James with guest host every week. Stressing all sorts of wonderful issues, nerdy political pop concert, black queer feminism race well the news. You'RE GONNA learn your history. Their self empowerment and it's total. Buy what feels like your best friend. Why should someone listen to minority Corner Winai? Free stuff there's not free stuff. The listeners of minority corner will enjoy some necessary. Lol's, but mainly a look at what's happening in our world to colorful lengthy will get the perspectives of marginalized communities heard I feel seen like you say you need to understand how to be more proactive in your community, and this is a great way to get started. Want US every Friday on Max Fun, or wherever your podcast minority farner because together the majority. It feels like nothing in the news. These days makes any sense so Hassan Haj turned to his father and his faith for answers he said, don't worry about the number of questions. Just worry about which questions become more clear and solidified comedian. Hassan Hodge on how his spirituality is getting him through. Listen subscribed to. It's been a minute from NPR. Welcome back to Bullseye I'm Linda Holmes. INFOR Jesse, thorn I'm talking with Elizabeth Moss, she starred in a bunch of movies and TV Shows Madman the invisible man, the handmaid's tale. Her newest project is a movie called Shirley in it. She plays Shirley Jackson the horror writer, the author of the lottery. The movie comes out this week. Let's get back into our conversation. Another thing I want to ask you about you. You are not just a MEEMA. You are multiple memes. You are handmaid's tale memes. You're also madman memes. Ditch. Are you aware, did you? Were you aware when you were shooting Peggy? Olson coming down the hall with the box and the shades and the cigarette. Do you shoot that and thank I'm going to be looking at this rest of my life? No. No absolutely! Not I mean I had no idea we didn't have any idea. I mean it was so It was completely unexpected. I it was a big moment for the character and I knew that it was something that I was proud of sorry. I'm getting a piece of cheese, and you'RE GONNA carrot. Starving got your cheese. Thank you very much I knew that it was a big moment for the character, but no had absolutely no idea that it was going to be this this meme that that that it became up like. Crazy. I remember at the time. My main focus was very much. Holding all of that staff trying to make them? Trying to get them to make the boxes light as possible because lazy, and I was like I just make kept making them take out of the box. They were like we wanted to be real, and I was like I. Don't so take things out of the box. And then I remember like trying to keep the cigarette in my mouth. It's actually very difficult to walk and keep cigarette your mouth like that I don't know how James Dean did it and then the. To do walking and then also look cool. So I remember that. which you didn't know when you're shooting it, because I I remember watching that episode live, and thinking as I was watching that episode live. This is a this is a famous shot from madman. Right here. That's so funny. It's so interesting. Yeah, like we just I mean you know it wasn't even her last seen? It wasn't her last shot like we just didn't necessarily. Nobody did nobody thought about that about it that way you know, I listened to an interview or you talked about Madman, making it possible to be seen for more roles, but also then having to demonstrate that you could do a lot of other roles. Are you basically now out of that period? Where people associate you with a particular thing I guess so. I think that yeah, the the first thing I did after like getting kind of known for a character was top of the League. Originally Jane didn't want to see me for it because she could only see me as peggy. And the incredible casting director, Christine McGregor in Australia so I will be forever. Grateful to basically had a, we had a drink in La and an I showed up and I looked so different from Peggy, and she said Chi Chi. Take a picture of you and I was like sure should compare me and sent it to Jane and basically was like this person does not. This person is not Peggy and it was her support of of me that help to get me that role, and and that was the first time. I did something that I. I kind of. Felt like I had to prove to myself that I could do something other than Peggy. I knew I. Could I knew I wanted to when you become well known for a character, it is daunting to to go outside of that. That I think that kind of pushed me out of that box during madman, and so I didn't necessarily have the seem kind of up problem that somebody may have coming out of a long running show like that because I had done this thing in the middle of right. I also have not somebody who really cares. I don't really operate from a place of fear when it comes to the to the role that I do so I really worry about it too much I. You know I I consider myself. A person who is an actor who played different characters doesn't just play one character, and that's it like I i. didn't really get too bogged down in. A Way I can never play a copywriter again could never play somebody in advertising I could never do a period project again or something like that I don't care. Whatever's challenging me is actors guess what's the most important to me? Yeah, is there. Is there anything right now that you think? I've never done a role like XYZ that you're interested in doing. I mean you talked about you know. Know things kind of making you think I. WanNa do more action. I WANNA do different things. Is there a wishlist or is that asking for trouble to have a wishlist as an actor? I generally don't have like too much of a wishlist. Just because I do like to be surprised, but I think as I've gotten a place in my career worm I'm developing more material and producing almost. Almost everything I do I started to look at that and for me. There's a couple of things one I really want after playing June, who's such a heroin? Although a complicated, her one and a flawed one right, I really WANNA play a villain I really wanNA play I. WanNa play. Bad Guy Played Anti Hero. That's something I'm really interested in and I am actually really interested in. In exploring an action film or something in that space, I think that I love those kinds of movies, I'm a huge movie Fan and so I, which ones do you love? Whom I what are your favorite? All of that I mean the entire the born franchise mission, impossible franchise, specifically the the leader Shri Query films I love all the atomic, blonde and salts and tomb, Raider and like. You know all the ones that have are are women as the as the heros you know. Obviously, those have a special place in my heart as a woman I love them. And I've been on a huge action. Movie kicked to recently I. Think because working in developing something in that space so. I I Yeah I. I'm really into that right now. Lot of Lot of hand fighting in those movies, a lot of hand fighting I, love the idea of having to lake train for three months or whatever and like. I love the idea of having like like crazy back muscles you know. That you're living. That Marvel Superhero Life. Exactly I like look. At, look at like choice turns back and I'm just like I want that. I want to do that, but I. Know Myself and I know I'll never do it for myself. I will only be for a role. I was watching her smell just last night. Actually and for people who aren't familiar with that. You play a a Rockstar who the film is essentially told in a series of five vignettes, and the middle one in particular is is really. Hard I mean it's difficult to watch in the sense that it's very upsetting. Because as you spoke about earlier, she's dealing with addiction and some other issues, but. I did watch that. One thinking I that seems physically exhausting and is that I'm curious about whether that kind of performance is is physically exhausting. Yeah, it is I would say her smell. Her smell, even maybe above the invisible man. Was, the most physically challenging role I've ever done, which is kinda crazy, considering the fights and stuff and invisible man, and all that running, which was just out of control. But there's something about the mental and emotional and physical state of Becky in that movie that was actually challenging, and I'm not. I'm not one to you. Know I hate when actors say that something was hard because it's like. It's not and you're getting paid, and it's elective and you're fine, but I will say that that was. You know. The Lot that we were shooting a lot in a short amount of time. You know it's a small movie and it was producing as well and a lot of dialogue. A lot of crazy dialogue. That didn't make any sense. But if you said it one word wrong really didn't make any sense, so I would say that. Yeah, that that and that act in particular I think actually when you're talking about the the Red read act like the one. That's where she's really unhinged short. Yeah, yeah! Physically kind of challenge. Pattern, practically suing. I'm suing. You'll see you in court. I called. Mrs Anya and chick. Peas Mrs, Adam check. Do, you swear solemnly. Your daughter was born with a rare neurological condition renders the passage of time forced. External World! Please I just can't seem to get go until later at night. Who Think I WANNA be laid those people that. Are Show. She's just constantly coil. She's constantly mood. She's either moving or about to move, and that was but of also very hot and like the heat was very hot. You might have gathered from before we started this podcast i. don't like the heat and. I was just hot, too so hot that set. Yeah it it I mean you know it's the it's the red. It is the red segment. Yes, and the set was felt brilliantly to be slightly too small, so those hallways were built small Oh. Yes and the ceiling was built low to give you that really claustrophobic feeling, and we have our DP and camera operator Sean Price Williams who's like six something, and not a small man, and he's like literally bow, and it's all hand-held, and he's literally bouncing off the walls on the set like there's no room. There's a room for like the twelve people that we had in there. I'm going to bounce back for one second too early jobs just to make sure. Make sure that you've embarrassed me thoroughly. Not! Kidding I'm just GONNA go. that. We've completely covered all the things. You possibly embarrassed you not at all. Not At talk about escape to witch mountain. We didn't get there. That's one of my. Early favorites tell me about escape to witch mountain teach. We found is a Disney Classic Disney I I noticed. Tell me about your your love of escaped which. Again took it very seriously. I remember There are two ways you know. Way played my brother in a boy who was like this other guy and you know it was quite young, and there were two boys on said it was very exciting That's what I remember I remember the boys. Wash it. You promised no more bullying. Wasn't bullying. It's new game, so you made it up. UK. Dany. mean. No. How did you start? How did you start acting that young? The story goes legend. Has It according to my mother I was doing a production of the sound of music at first ballet school and I was playing. I think it's Greta Greta gretel on a little one yet Lewis one and I don't know why the we were doing sound of music at my ballet school, but we were and agent came and saw this little recital at. School in the valley and she said to my mom does she want? She have an interest in acting and my mom was like. Do you have the interest of acting and I was like sure and she. She kind of just kept checking with. Audition and get something. And I loved it and I had a great time, and she kind of just kept going. You still like this. You still want to do this and I did and and. And here we are. Well I said you seem to have navigated the the transition out of child actor much more easily than than many well I think part of that is I have given that some thought I think part of it is that I wasn't famous. I wasn't six moody. Mean I wasn't particularly successful. At a very young age, my my. Career sort of I was allowed to grow as a person into at least a semi adult before anyone knew who I was, and I think that really was very I think that was very very helpful I think dealing with that kind of fame at a young age I think is. Incredibly daunting and so I didn't have that, and then my first job that anybody really cared about besides like I. Guess I girl interrupted when I was fifteen or sixteen, but I had makeup on you. Nobody knew what I looked like. And then my first job was in the West Wing was like a show for grownups. Really became. A child star, or anything and I think that that really that really helps. Yeah, how do you feel about being famous now? I think that. I'm not the kind of famous. That I, think I I don't know if I would love you. Know the kind where you really actually can't leave the house there. You can't or your followed by Paparazzi I'm not followed by Paparazzi. Nobody cares You Know I. think that and I so I. I don't have that kind of fame. I. I can't say how how difficult that might actually be to have that so I feel like I'm pretty lucky position people seem to like my work. They recognize me. They like the shows that do the movies and they say Nice things and. It's pretty much as far as it goes for me, and so I guess I'm. Still kind of lucky in that in that respect. Yup. Well Elizabeth Moss. Thank you so much for being here with Bullseye Hey. It is absolutely my pleasure. Thank you so much for taking the time. Elizabeth Moss everyone. If you WANNA see Shirley, it's out June fifth. That's on Hulu, Andijan select drive ins, and if you haven't watched her in invisible man, let me tell you. It's creepy and she's great in it. That's the end of another episode of Bullseye. Those is produced out of the homes of me and the staff of maximum fund in and around various parts of the country. Here in DC I'm missing everybody, but my indoor Herb Garden gave me a basil leave as big as the palm of my hand. The show is produced by speaking into microphones. Our producer is Kevin Ferguson Hey. Suzanne Brosio is our associate producer. We get help from Casey O'Brien Jordan cowling. Are Interstitial Music is by Dan Wally also known as DJ. W theme songs by the go team. THANKS TO THEM AND THEIR LABEL MEMPHIS industries for letting US use it. You can also keep up with the show on facebook. Twitter and Youtube just searched for bullseye with Jesse Thorn. 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Ween Cast Episode 27, March 23 2001, Tradewinds, Sea Bright, NJ

Ween Cast

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Ween Cast Episode 27, March 23 2001, Tradewinds, Sea Bright, NJ

"Wean Cats Oh podcast with Shane and work. Hey, what's up this Shane? And this is rory. And this is weaned cast. We welcome you to a new episode. Yes welcome, everybody! House everyone knew and tonight. We hope that your summer is. is in full effect and everyone's doing well. Before we get into the show from our youth that we're going to talk about tonight. Kinda going to go back to an old school. Episode only. Only We We wanted to mention check on Patriot. PATRIOTIC DOT com forward slash weaned cast podcasts. We're trying to do a little bit more with providing some exclusive content on their all kinds of fun stuff, so go on pastry on. CHECK US out. Sign Up. Be a patron. We want to say thank you to all of our current patrons, and we just keep trying to get more and more cool shit on there for everyone to check out, make it. Make it a real cool? vibe on Patriots so check us out yet. No, the Patriots Awesome I. We got a couple of exclusive episodes available only on patron as well as some other bonus material for some episodes and whatnot so definitely check that out. It's pretty close. Also one more thing before I forget. I'm excited to announce. The wing cast summer. Spectacular Wean fans story contest. That's right. We want your weaned fans stories. Finalists will be presented on an episode. Our podcast and the winner not only comes away with the most honor, but also will receive an awesome handcrafted cutting board branded with a cool Bhuvnesh well of pictures on the socials, but what we're doing is partnering with a small company outside of philly called West Brandy wine woodworks, and they're providing the awesome handcrafted boob niche emblazoned cutting board. The wing cast some spectacular weaned fan. Story contest works like this. In an audio recording, tell us your wildest or coolest or rats, or whatever weaned fans, story, five minutes or less, this could be a crazy story about something that happened at a wing concert, or maybe an off the wall tale of how you first heard. Wayne or really any personal story you have the has to do with wing submissions can be in wave or Mbe three format, and must be emailed to wing casts podcast at gmail.com. The deadline is Monday September seventh Labor Day. and. We are looking to present finalists and announce a winner later that month. Awesome they'll be more details available on our socials, and you welcome to email us if you have any questions. Weaned cast podcast at gmail.com. Looking forward to hearing some of your story soon, totally so release episode. We're going to go back to another show that I was able to make it to, but rory. You weren't able to make it to this one. No, sadly yet again. This era this You know dude, there's this is like when you first took your lead on me. Because there's there's a couple of other shows as well from this time period that you know for one reason or another just didn't didn't get my aunt my, but too, so I totally regret this one I would say the main reason is because you know you went to college right Outta high school and I didn't so. That's pretty much the main right. Well Rory was in college, so it's not exactly. You know. It's not exactly something to be proud of. It's like I. Just have more free time on my hands. Sure I was also broke so. That probably played into me And you know. Psychologists further away as well so I wasn't as close right right right? Yeah, not as cool, a cool stuff going on and around the State College area but so we're GonNa talk about March Twenty, third two thousand one. What's up, people? My name is Shawn, and I'm the host of your not listening a podcast where we teach you how to actively listen to music one song at a time every episode I sit down with my father, who was a mobile DJ for over thirty five years, and we each bring to the table and talk about what makes it great why you should listen. Listen to it and why you should appreciate it through detailed analysis of the words and music, some personal stories that we might have with that, and hopefully will help you change your mind and get you listening to music and a little bit different way, so you get a little bit more out of it. Subscribe to us on Apple podcast Google podcast wherever you listen, if you love music, and you want to figure out how you can love it even more maybe even learn how to appreciate a song that you think you hate its your not listening a music podcast. Check it out. Thanks everyone. Hi I'm Leah and I'm Beth Fan and where she will rock you. Rock, you is a biweekly podcast about rock history each episode we talk about an artist in their lives, but we do it a little differently you see. We noticed. There was a lack of ladies hosting music podcasts, so we wanted to fix it and here we are too bad ass. Millennial Ladies Talking about rock music. Our parents wouldn't let us listen to as a bonus. You'll even get our recommendations at the end. Find US wherever you listen to podcasts and remember don't do dress. So this was the show at the trade winds in Seabright New Jersey. Yes, I believe the only show ever at trade wins, they have only played there once. I believe as correct, yes, Forest Brown base. Is Concerned Yeah. It's the only time that that they ever played the trade winds so if you look at sort of like that time period, it's it's the beginning of the shows for two thousand and one, which there is a full length tour that they're starting at this point, but it's only the second show, so there's one other one before this which I'm not. Not exactly sure I've never been to the Bar I think it's in his office Ville P. A.. I remember it happening at the time and kind of being like really bummed out that I wasn't going to be able to go because basically both of these shows from from what I remember anyway. We're just sold out like immediately. Okay, so this was a saying. Saying Rory before we started the the episode. This was the first time that I actually like left the House and went to the venue without having tickets in my hand. You know it doesn't seem like such a crazy concept in these days with like cell phones and everything else, but back in back in those days I mean there was definitely. You're definitely taking a risk so. So I I don't remember exactly how I had hooked up with with this person I think it must have been on like the original weaned forum or what I would call the we news group who's like like all music dot? Wean or whatever it was called. I can't remember exactly, but basically that was like the original like Internet gathering place for Wean fans. So I think I had just gone on. There was like okay. I need to tickets for the trade winds like you know anybody, have anything you know and there was one guy who was like. Yeah, I I think you know. He must have had some other friends that like fell through on him or something, and he was like. Yeah, like on. Be there by myself. I got two. Two extra tickets so I. Swear. It was just one of those things where it was like me here at this time like back when you used to have that kind of an arrangement before like well, text me when you get. There was no. Oh, yeah, no, nowadays you know. No one plans ahead. You just like exactly right it. Oh, text me when you get there no worries. This had to be set in stone. You know yeah in advance. So I I think it might have even been just like a few days before the actual show itself and our friend Matt otherwise known as K dog who high school with and great friend of ours and you know. I wouldn't say as maybe as hardcore of a wing Fan as as we were, but just like one of those always up for a good time. You know what I mean and I think I. Money just called him and was like. Hey, if I can get us to tickets for this show, like are you know? Are you able to make it like? Do you WanNa? Go and he? You know he's just like Elliot. You know so I'm like sweet. Sweet, so we had just sort of like. I, we must have kind of like thrown together at the last minute. You know what I mean like like one of those kinds of things you know like. If we're just GONNA, go meet up with this dude. He supposedly has the two tickets for US Lake. You know there's a possibility this whole thing could fall through or whatever, but we took that chance. Dude that sound like that sounds like an adventure. Yes. Man When I when I look back at is like yeah, this was back in the days of like you know you're either gonNA. Go and you're going to go on an adventure and find out what happens or you know. Hey, you're going to sit at home. I guess you know so mean. K. Dog went all right. He drove Kay I'm pretty sure he had, and I had I had asked him about this within the last week or so and I just sent him attacks into, said like hey, man, you remember that show. He remembers going to the show, but I said. What car were you driving because I remember you drive it. He didn't even remember that he was. He was. Like I think it was my blue. Firebird, and I was like that would make sense because I remember it was like a muscle car, so he had a blue firebird that we drove, which is just a crazy like non practical car. I love that in your notes here, it said sports car and I'm just kind of figure out like. Bird really sports car. Isn't it more of like a sporty car? Because all give me certification on that like what's the? What's the line? Wind does sporty gardening come a sports car? Yeah, right right right to me. It's it. It was like a sports car because it was just like you sat fucking low to the ground. You know what I mean. One of those kinds and there was like you know. If you're over like five five. You'RE GONNA. Hit your head on something. You know what I mean. Windows. Oh Yeah, power windows! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, power windows front wheel drive, you know. Yeah, you know. So he drove his car down and and this is in Seabright, New Jersey okay, which was the only time in my life of ever been to Seabright if you're familiar with the Jersey shore, this is barely it because this. You look at a map. This is far north. Of The Jersey shore as you can get before. It's like you're in new. York. Okay, but this is a legit beach town as in water on both sides. You know one a this is not just on. You know on the edge of the water now like this could be like you know. It's an island exact. You know you look one way. It's blackness. You look the other way. It's blackness. That's what I remember. When we got there, it was dark you, this is still you know the end of March, so you know. By the time we got there that night, it was dark and everything but. It's also where Tony Soprano also bought his beach house. And if I was up on my research, be able to tell you like what the episode number was, and all that nonsense, but the episode where he almost buys that Beach House. That was seabright. New Jersey Okay Nice that. When when when was that show on because this? When. How does that relate to the timing of this? Of, this show, this is two thousand one. You know what that's a good question. I'm pretty sure it was during that period. Because I think the Sopranos started in like the late nineties like one thousand, nine hundred nine. If I'm not mistaken so lake, it was probably on like then. It was probably on at that at that time I. Don't know if that episode have. have. I! Don't think so I think that was one of the later ones that was one of the later seasons, but but yeah, that was that was probably on at the time. If we're playing the Kevin Bacon, Games is the does this mean that seabright can be used as a way to connect wean to people in Sopranos I. Don't see why not I mean. Hell. Yeah. Anyway I'm sorry you. You're telling your story of. No, not at all so so basically. Our our whole thing was like find. This guy is name was Jimmy all right. Find Him at his hotel and buy these tickets, and it's like it sounds, and it felt at the time, so like seedy that like Oh we have to find this hotel. I mean anytime. There's like a hotel room involved. It's like it's just above you know nonsense level. You know what I mean. It's just above just above board. You know what I mean. Yeah, no feel shady. Even if it's not I mean you're meeting. A guy named Jimmy. You know in the town where the toy soprano Bodies Beach House. GonNa meet this guiding Jimmy GonNa meet gaining Jimmy the motel. You. Put it when you put it like that. Meet him at the motel just of John Handle. But, but from what I remember I think. The hotel was like right across the street. You know what I mean because I, mean you're you gotta remember? It's it's a beach town. So like you know. There's a lot of hotels motels. You know stuff like that from backing like the fifties and sixties so I think it was. It was really like right across the street, so we went and found this place pretty easily but I. also remember. We had to wake him up. So. Now. We're at this motel and we're and we're like knocking on the door like endlessly, and it's like Oh shit like what and you know I drug. You Know Matt along with me to this thing so I'm like shitting my pants. Like what if this guy doesn't really exist or like? What if he's just GonNa? Murder US or something like I would feel terrible. You know what I mean. You feel terrible if he murdered you. I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't mind it myself. Because I brought it on myself. You know what I mean, but for, but for Matt, it's like he doesn't. He doesn't deserve it. You know what I mean. Go go near Grave W last thought you. Right, Yeah right I would just feel guilty so anyway, so we found that this guy's hotel and we knocked on the door and finally answered and I think we had woke him up, but he was real, cool and everything you invited us in, and we kinda bought the tickets and I think he was like okay. You know like you either comeback here. like before the show star because I, think we. We might have had like an hour or like a you know two hours or something like that, and he was like he's like either come back here in an and or like I'll just me over there like when you know when it's when it's about to start or something something like that so I think me and Matt just like took the tickets. Let this guy go back to bed and. and went and got some food, and and came back, and then I remember kind of walking like across the street with the three of us, and then waiting outside, so the trade winds. And that was the only time I've ever been there. You know up until then or since, and basically it's sort of like one of those places like right on the water where If it would be like the middle of summer would probably be you know a amazing you know. Open air just they opened up the big plastic windows and roll everything back, and it's like right exactly, but this is still the end of March so everything is all like inside, and everything is just Kinda, like buttoned up. You know exactly like you said like one. Whole wall was just like plastic. Because it's like you know, that's what comes down and it just you know. The beach is right there when it's nice weather, but everything is still closed. Closed up and pen open everything and just an absolute like mayhem type of show because it was just like packed. I mean this place probably held. You know maybe like three hundred fifty people four hundred people, maybe a little bit more than that, but I mean just talk about cramped. You know so we got had gotten there and we were sort of like. Let in like as the doors were or opening I think we're in line if maybe. You know maybe the first like fifty people or something like that so I remember getting like a good spot on the floor, own sort of like the diener side, but just like shortly thereafter it just got like pacts, and it was like one of those shows. Where like if you're trying to get like anywhere, you're just gonNA. Be Rubbing up. You know people in front of people in back. You're going to be like on top of people one of those kind of shows you know. So. Yeah definitely like a small a small place that I mean you know in the grand scheme of things. It's like that's kind of what you especially back in those days. It's like that's what you wanted. You wanted to get in on like those small shows, and that's getting rarer and rarer to because they start to play a little bit bigger venues you know, and so I can see how that would just be packed to the Gills, a smaller place with saw out pretty easily, especially, especially apptime I mean they're? They're I. Think they're still gaining popularity in the the white pepper era. You know and. The Ryan piece band and everything in there just exploding on the live scene you know, and so I can totally see that just being packed to the gills and them just. Squeezing a few more people here if you feel more people there. Is I. is that true for every every? Clever Bar in New Jersey. They're all just like always super packed because I've seen remember the other New Jersey show I went to was super packed. You know it's funny because that's one of the things I remember about that night. Actually is I think Matt and I had gotten separated at one point like you know. He went to the bathroom and got like a drink or something, and came back, and like found me and I think I just said something like man. This is just this way to full or something layers. Just two years is too many people in this room and And him just him just saying like Oh, I was just talking to another guy, and he was saying that every club in Jersey is like this and I was like really like how is that possible? But I mean it is the most populated state and you know I mean that's basically like a hometown show for for wean yet. Do that's not far. Let's not far at all from new. You know right sort of southeastern. Eastern PA. That's immortal anything in like the state of new. Jersey is just like that's considered to be like. You know a hometown show for weaned I, thank. You know. Roll with that more so there is there. Is there wheelhouse the area right right? New Jersey the border. The borderline new hope versus Lambert Ville. WHO Shall Prevail? So that Kinda takes us to the beginning of the show, she we. You want to go through the settlers. Read the settlers for for. For us. All right so. We. A exactly where a man. She wanted to leave the grove baby bitch, tick. Waving my Dick in the Wind Papas it. The stallion part five Voodoo lady squelched. The weasel backed basam marble. Tulip Juicy Tree Albino summer girl. Push the little daisies ocean man, birthday, boy, the MOLLUSC! Take me away. Dr Rock touch my tutor pump and for the man. The going gets tough from the get-go. I'll be your johnny on the spot. Buckingham Green. Spinal meningitis. Homo Rainbow. Enter Sandman. Yes, I said that I said that correctly enter Sandman. fucked up. And then we got. The first encore, we got frank the JV'S HIV song. Tender situation. DRIFTER in the dark strove race, the Blarney stone just keeps going. And you got the second encore got the final alarm and when stars Amigo. So lad is pretty. Pretty. Interesting in cool set list. You know and I didn't remember that it had two encores until we went back in and started doing some of the research for for this show. Oh Yeah. Totally. That's crazy. Do a double encore. That's like yeah. Such a rare thing, so that's you know. When I say interesting, an awesome set list I mean we'll get into all the nitty gritty. There's a lot a lot of crazy schick on this set list. Yes and that's one of them so double encore double encore. She's crazy. So the first and foremost thing about this show and this tour and you know we're not here to You know we're not here to speculate or anything or as to as to why this happened or whatever you know, that's the. That's the business of the band, but no Glenn. No, Glenn I would say I would like I. Don't maybe speculate myself, but I am curious so. So. So. So, so I'm happy to if anyone knows anything about. The Glenn Situation. For this tour I would love to hear it so basically like if you're if you're if you're not aware you know for for shows from this tour. Glenn was not in the band so basically, and this is gonNA sound so stupid I know, but they're only four members. Performing the Shell and They didn't get placement. Personally right. So it's not. It's not like they just had. Yeah, it's just it's not like they had somebody else. Just like filling in for Glenn is just like there are just no keyboards for this particular tour, so if you stop and think about it again this it sounds so stupid when you say yeah, there's one guy. There's four guys, and it's like but stop and think about it, I. So on the songs where Jeaner isn't playing guitar and he's just on vocals. There's only three dudes playing instruments. That's it. I mean totally. And you know this is a better show. You know what I mean like you know I i. hate to say this because I love Glenn and I love. You know the keyboards of Wean and everything, but they don't miss a beat without him. This is a fucking be. This is an amazing show. Biz They I. Would I agree they? They sound really good. You can tell you that Glenn is not there and the definitely there's evidence of it and you notice in some songs, but not necessarily to the detriment like that the still in mazing show. Right and I would say that Jeaner. Erin. I would not that I counted, but it seemed like he might be was playing more guitar than normal. You know so I think I think it's interesting how they make adjustments. You know and so right. That's another thing about this set list is. There's definitely some conspicuous songs missing I think. From like the Glenn Repertoire. You know it's like first off right, we're. We're on the tail. We're just on the tail. End of the white white pepper tours right? White pepper was released less than a year earlier and yet is only four white pepper songs on this. And I. Think a big part of that is because Glenn was a huge part of white pepper. If you listen to, are, we do we have an episode on White Pepper? If you listened to that thing we talk about that Glenn has a huge role in white pepper and so pandy fat loss is a big time Glenn Song that was played a lot during this time period. Not This tour, not this show and then also bananas and blow is another huge one. Right as as well as ice castles, even though Ice Castle is not as popular, it's not as play as often, but those other two. I mean so so there's absolutely adjustments made and I think. It's not just that they didn't play as many white pepper songs. It's also a shift in the types of songs. They play kind of throughout the whole show really. Totally man totally you know it's basically a little bit more of just like them as just like straight up like rock band. You know what I mean you know in some of the more recent chose we. We keep talking about like there's not as many jam ounce. There's not as many jam ounce. It's like you know this is a pretty good example of like a show from. From that era, where like there isn't as many jam outs because there's no keyboard and it's like you know no pandy. Fackler means there's no ten minute Pandy fackler. You know what I mean. Totally you know you. And I got the sense throughout the show that that diener he often news trying to make up for it because man disease. Shred it on this in the show. He really yeah. Diener can always carry. Diener can always carry. Show. You know what I mean. There's no. There's no doubt about that. So we were still in good hands that night you know, even even without gland, but there's definitely a lot of cool standouts from from this show as well. Absolutely, tons of good shit I mean this show. The show has a large number of. Uncommon and rare. Live songs which I think we'll get to when we start to talk about the the different songs. They also do a lot. I mentioned how there's a shift. In sort of how what they're playing. There's a lot of this look a raucous show and you mentioned how the crowd is. It's packed and and it's like sardines in there in this show is rockets and so I guess just get the feeling that they're feeding off that they made this decision because there's no Glenn that they're gonNA shift to a doing heavier more raw hardcore songs like loud fast metal songs that was a deliberate decision without Glenn there, and then you have this packed raucous. New Jersey crowd and I just feel like they're feeding off of that. For the show and so it's really this awesome synergy of the type of songs that they're playing and how hard the crowds rocking. And, how men! And and what happens at the end of the show double encore, you know I, do. Why that's wild double encore! I want to say we talked about this recently, but I'm trying to think of another. Show the added double encore and. And I'm kind of blanking at the moment. There's not a lot. You know so. It's like damn seven. Eight total songs in encores to have the right legendary double encore. That's what gives you hope that's what gives you. Hope every show that that even after an encore you're supposed to sit there and keep clapping and stopping your feet. You know yeah, the fashion long core. Yeah, like it. It has happened it could happen again. You know that's the thing. What should we talk about? Some highlights yeah. you know again and we don't want to. I don't want to harp on this. You know too much, but you know like. There's a couple of things that are just gonNA. Be Like really different, and you know like with Glenn and stuff that they play every night. You know the I kind of like. Stand out for me. I would say is Voodoo Lady. You know now there again. I mentioned you know there's not as many like jam outs. Ladies no exception so basically like it's a cool version and everything, but there's just not as much to it like there's not really like the like sound effects and. Stuff like that, so it's it's like the first one that sorta like. List going back and listening to the show that Sorta like you know jumps out as being. Kinda different you know instead of instead of. Diener Glenn playing off each other. For the the whole like. Bridge and the whole jam part of that Song. You really just have you know diener absolutely shredding it I mean this is a still a great version of ood lady and I feel like this show in the last few shows that we had gone to. They managed to play a little different each show, and even though it's a commonly played song, it's still manages to stand out you know, both because you can notice that Glenn's not in it, but also because diener just friggin takes over and. You, don't you don't get the back and forth. But US. Have Diener just plowing right ahead? Right. So and I'm sorry. I kind of I kind of skipped over even before Voodoo Lady Well let me go back even further, so you got the fifth. And Seventh Song Tick. And, then you've got waving my taking the wind and then pop. It's like. Tick Papas it. It's like Oh, man! That's just like the old school Godalming Satan Rock Shit. You know what I mean. Yeah, there's a good amount of God Satan on this show right and like the you're saying it's like you got a raucous. You know a raucous show like a raucous crowd like boom. You know they're just hitting it right off the bat with you know. Let's get down to it and then. After popzette the stallion part five. So and I. Think Diener even says before they started that. This is fairly new. This is only the second time that it's been played. So. and I didn't look at the I didn't go back and look at the settlers from the show. Right before this, but I'm assuming that was the first time it was played. Was that night They just started enrolling it at at that tour, but. This that's the last stallion. That's the last. Do The stallion par-five, and and you know what I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I'm pretty sure that's my favorite. And I know that's kind of sacrilege, especially styling part three from pure guava, but I mean you know Stein part five is kind of hard to beat. You know it sounds like another episode idea. But nobody, but that's just what a great you know. This is a perfect example of. What we're talking about show you know, tick wake my Dick, in the wind opposite stallion part five. It's a much more. Intense sort of upbeat. Sort of. In your face songs and then boo ladies like a jam. Shredding it. And then he falls with squelched the Leeza, which is like a rare a rarity. It's only for eighty two times. right now posits one hundred, thirteen, downing sixty two, so there's a lot of uncommon stuff here, but what a what a you know. That's six songs in a row where it just really shows you. What this this show's all about. You know like they're gonNA rock Yemen and it keeps going back to base marble juicy tree. Is Not exactly a common song you know. No and there again you know you're going back to like some old school shit? You're going back to Godwin eight, you know. That's awesome yeah. Albino some girl. That's the only the third time ever playing. It's crazy crazy to think about, and that's a you know I and you know now the now that you mention it. I do think that that was must have been the first time that I ever heard it. And and listening to you know the bootlegs of this show is probably what got me to know that one you know and stallion part five. You know for the first time you know, so. It's it's. It's great going back and looking at at the set list for this, you know. Yeah. You know that also just reminds me to just. Forever show my appreciation to the tapers out there because You learn so much from the live shows at to be able to listen to over, and over again is treating such a treasure totally. And you know when I was going back and listening to this one recently I was just like well no Glenn. They won't do the mollusc, but they did so the so the mollusc is the seventeenth song. and. You know. Somehow some way it still has the sound effects like brutal. And I don't know how they did that. I don't know if that was like something that's prerecorded. That's just like you know like the beginning drums of. exactly where I'm at for the start of the show. How that is just sort of like pre recorded. You know I don't know I wouldn't put anything past Wean I. Mean they used to go towards just of them in Dat deck? Yeah. It's very true I mean. It's. I don't I. Don't know it's like okay. The mosque does still have. It doesn't have like the crazy like Glenn like Dodo due to. Do you know that it doesn't have all that, but it's still does have what I would refer to as the bubbles. So somehow they pull data. Hit a button near hit a button there. Somebody's hitting some kind of buds. Abundance off right. So just another like you know Rock Block you got Dr Rock touched my tutor pumping for the man. And then al-Bir Johnny on the spot, not quite as rocked out as usual for obvious reasons yet and then Buckingham Green is another one where you really notice that Glenn not there, but it's still great on the less right because he's definitely part of that, you know bugging agrees very kind of like this epoch song with a with this you know sort of apocryphal moment that Glenn is a big part of, but but it's still rock down. Diener like you said earlier can carry in. Carry show right. And then after that, you got spinal meningitis Homo Rainbow which again. That's always that's always a great song to hear live yet you know it's a rarity and it's always a tree. Yeah, and then after that fucking enter Sandman. METALLICA, dude, that's that's awesome. I I was playing this for amy I was playing this The show for amy as I was getting ready, you know and when when I heard entertainment come on paused and rewound, and I was just like amy. Come check this out. Was Awesome. It's it's almost to me like they're kind of acknowledging the fact that there's no keyboard. And what are we without the keyboard well? We're just a fucking rock band, aren't we? You know what I mean and it's like. What are we going to do without Glenwood really do with no keys and it's like well. Let's just do some Metallica shed. You know. It's, it's like one of those things that I don't know like a life, imitating art kind of moment or something i. it's it's just so brilliant. You know what I mean I don't know I, I. It's funny, because because jeeter is a really like making his voice like he's like the devil, you know he's like. A. Like. He probably had a hard time speaking the next morning just from that song. You know and it's fantastic and diener has a a great solo in it, and it's funny, because it's a totally a wean. Blow, you know it's not a Batalik Solo, but but it's still really awesome. They Jam Dude Entertainment. It's fucking. That's good i. mean it's just it's like it's almost like the furthest thing that you would guess. Wean would play when you're talking about lake cover songs that they might break out. You know what I mean like I could sit for a million years and not think that they would have done. Enter Sandman. Like it's just so far from something that I I would see happening, but there was well. It's a perfect. Example of this like this abrupt turn that they're making during this tour right after white pepper, but without Glenn. You know I think like songs like we know. Popped in my head was. They had done a cover of. led. Zeppelin my love I. Think it was. Right. You know and that's just thinking of Glenn because there's those. Two to. Dictate. Song and stuff and it's. Just like they. Do Cover with Clinton and this is you know like we're going to say? Oh, it's like all you people thought we sold out and we did a white pepper. Well guess what we're fucking. We're going to do some metal. A. fucking like what's what's the embodiment of? Hard rock band while fucking METALLICA. skit some fucking metallica going. Great because the Tech E. Jeans voice just really makes you feel like this part. It's half. Send up of the heavy metal genre. Half right right right? You know it's like. Is it supposed to be funny and it's like well doesn't sound that funny. It sounds like it's fucking great. So if you weren't a Metallica Fan, which I'm you know I wasn't and I'm really not a big. Metallic, Guy, you know, but. They're going to win you over with this one. I had I had the METALLICA? METALLICA album on tape I got that Nice. In fact, my younger brother in the we got in a fight, and he put it out the window in a Snow Bank of snow. Still playing after that. Oh yeah right survived yeah. That's interesting. 'CAUSE! METALLICA's hardcore. Right, if it was a lesser ban, the tape wouldn't have made it, but since it's a metallica tape, it survived this now had that glitzy coiled snake on the cover. Yeah, right, you could almost barely just barely could see it because it was a black cover. I'm sorry making us on a tangent, but no, no, no I mean. Yeah, but entertainment invensys great. It's they nail it to I mean let me let me just say real quick since we're since we're bringing up, you know metallica memory, so my older brother was a big metallica guy before the black album ends, he would pretty much have considered that to be like. They're like sell out album like he was a big ride, the lightning guy. He's yeah, so like and you know this I was too young. You know at the time to like you know that was like Oh. That's bad music like. Like stay away from him when he's listening to that stuff like. Listen to metallic and play Dean Dean. But I don't think he ever really got into the blackout. Because I think that you know, it was like fuck, it sell out men you know like. But I can. I can speak for him that he was in the METALLICA even before the enter Sandman era, so that's one for my older brother. Craig? Hey all I'm I'm just going to say no. Hayden. You know nothing. Yeah, yeah, no hate right no hate. So. So yeah, and then after that it's you fucked up and that's the end of the first set. That's the end of the main set, so talk about raucous man I mean forget it. Yeah, instead of going jam route at the end of the first set, they go with these you know entertainment, and then you fucked up. You know it's like a total change from what you might normally expect at the end of verse set. Right. So then they come back. They do frank which i. Again I mean I always Oh my God. This is a great great version of Frank. Absolutely they're both jamming ear Jim in on this. They're both playing guitar back and forth during the Solo. It's really good. Yeah totally. Each IV song tender situation which that's another sweet rendition. And Uncommon Song and right any times and fairly uncommon, and then you've got drifter in the dark, so and not only is that also uncommon? They break out special guests Chris Harford. You know and. That's another kind of like New Jersey. Thing hometown show. You got like the other like members of the weaned fan you know. and. Let's get him. Let's get him out here, you know. So. DRIFTER in the dark goes a little off. The rails bite. That's part of the fun. It was the same kind of thing when we saw him do it. In Pittsburgh you know drift in the dark is a very just kind of relaxed and mellow kind of thing. It's like if it if it stays together great, if not, it's all good. Or does some really you know? He like melts into that Monica. Right I, mean he definitely you know he definitely brings it on Harmonica, but it. It seems like drifter in the dark is one of those ones that always seems to like okay. ARE WE GONNA? Keep going to end it or you know it doesn't really drifts in the dark. It drifts there. You go right, it's it's just it just goes adrift. You know so, but it's cool that they got Chris. Harford to come out and do some. Do some backup vocals. On that one he added well and speaking of. Speaking of special guests. The first one more stroke race in Blarney stone, and who else but. The Reverend, beal himself up there shredding it on stroke or Ace with the Reverend by Diener. Yup The reverend be and Diener even says when he brings them out From the sound of virtue you know what I mean so I. Don't know if this is the first time that that you know one of us on where like urgent actually gets a shout out. You know what I mean. It's like Eddie. Old Days Yeah so the reverend be. And they do the they do the last the last few songs. And then. Again I didn't remember that there was a second encore until I went back in and listen to this show again, but like I have to wonder if they were actually planning on that happening or not, or if it was just a crowd, just wouldn't stop and you know I. Don't know like the lights just didn't come on, so the crowds just GonNa, keep going. I, I don't know. But. They come back out and they do and they do the final alarm. which is fucking awesome, yeah. An- another rarity. Really you know I actually just quick looked. This is only I think this I wanna say the seventeenth eighteenth time that was ever played so seventeenth, so that's pretty early on in the in the in the final alarm history. And then and then close it off with Buenos Tartus. do that's one of my favourite. Show show enders. When starts me Oh baby. This is and this is a great rendition. Dude. You can't go wrong. You can't go wrong. What start you know you? It's sort of like you. Slow it down. Get everyone chill. And it's just like, and it's a really awesome song that a lot of people think is just like a joke rock, but it's actually a serious story of you know, jealousy and revenge and. There's also. I mentioned earlier that Jeaner was jamming on. Frank. But he does a massive jam on this song on the Acoustic Guitar. The Solo Jam in the middle is like a lot of that gene on this, and so that's just awesome, because you don't see that all the time like Jean playing such a big role. With the instrument and but he's great man, and like he's awesome, he's on when he's on point, and so it's just hopefully hear it because because then you're just reminded that he's got a lot of talent to like. Not just you know you think of genes like a singer, vocalist and songwriter, but he's also calm rock out on the guitar, Dude. Absolutely. A good gene solo is definitely a sweet thing. You know the. The one thing that kind of jumps out at me is like. Look at how many songs of this set list. Are Not from just like a traditional ween album so like if you just had like those CD's that came out at the time, which was very possible. You know because I think that's probably the majority of us that at that show. That's pretty much all that. We had access to a mean. You Know I. was I was listening to a lot of bootlegs and stuff, but I mean look how much of this stuff you wouldn't have known about her. You wouldn't have heard. Unless you were like a real hardcore fan I mean first of all the styling apart five. Right Albano Sun. Houma Rainbow. Enter Sandman and then the final alarm, so it's like a bunch of songs in this show. That like jump out at me is being you know like new or b sides, or you know obviously everyone knows enter Sandman but stuff. That's not the traditional weaned songs from one of the album's totally. Dude, it's. A wide variety of just you know. Rare cool shit like going on in the show. Yeah it's really a really impressive. For missing some of the big jam songs kinder's camp of my finger on it, you know reggae. Junkie Jew is missing right. You know and others to a and it's just. It's just such a cool set list you know in in one of the things that I love about lean is how they'll. They'll throw different settlers at you, you know. Right, absolutely, you know. Yeah I know that they play a lot of songs from chocolate cheese in the mollusc. Every show does always. Yes, there's going to. There's a lot of common songs. But but man like this this show just a great example of when they decide to really mix it up and so this show I think is is really is really mixed up. It's a really mixed up show. Right a lot of a riot right? Yes, how a Lotta dislike! Yeah a lot of cool rare, a lot of rare shit on a random mold stuff. Yeah, you know I. Have a couple of other just like random. Memories for like specific songs. If you if you listen to our interview with the amazing taper Fred more you know I had mentioned. This was the first show I. Remember seeing him. I had actually. I don't think I had actually spoke to him that night, but I have a distinct memory of them playing marble to juicy tree, and just seeing this dude. Just rocking out like you know how. There's a difference between when your eyes are open, your eyes are closed at a concert. Like is closed not even not even looking at anybody just. there. By himself in the Groove I have a distinct memory of of seeing him for the first time rocking out to marble tool juicy, and just being like who the fuck is that guy? He concur that it was a pretty. You know raucous wild pack crazy night. Yes, was his remembrance of it as well right, so he definitely, he definitely remembers that show. Pretty well and then the other thing that I remember is when it got to be towards the end, the end of the first encore is the blarney stone, and I think both Matt, and I had kind of gone back, and we're in front of one of the bars. There is a a a couple of different bars that you could go to sort of like one on each side if I'm if I'm remembering it correctly and I just remember like a couple of bartenders. Looking at each other as everyone is doing the. And then just looking at each other like what the fuck is this? You know what I mean, and just every the whole place is just you know. Gone crazy with just like this pirate song, and these people that have no idea of this music. Just being like what the fuck is going on man. You know I I remember that and just laughing my ass off at watching these people. Like experience this. So that was a fun memory. Well, what's great about that? Is that Blarney stone is like one of the last songs of the night. And so right. They been listened to all this crazy shit all night in. On and they're like what the Hell is this? Yeah. But I, I just remember the entire place just like everyone singing along to blarney stone, and just being completely into it and Just a great just a great moment. You know well, that's like so I'm looking at and here's a shout out for the Styling Bang for his youtube page, because he's got a video of the show on, but it comes in two minutes two hours and forty two minutes, and that's probably not including all of the downtime between encores. But I. But yes, we're talking about probably total about a time was three hours, and so by the time they're doing blarney stone. That's like to nap plus. They jammed people in there for a while sweated up. Yeah, check, check out this show on Youtube and I don't think I hadn't even realized until you know within the last couple of weeks we're going back in and re listening to this show that there was a video that was a video that I never had i. just had the CDs of of this show and I don't think I ever realized that there was a video that was made that night but it's really good It's a really great. You know capture of of of that night, so you can the whole thing on on Youtube, and you can listen to just a playlist on. A you know of the audio on on Youtube as well bookish monster I think colleen, or lean is I'm GonNa say it runs a runs blue monster now, but yes, so just A. A great a great video that was made that night in I I never had that one I never had a vhs or DVD of that show. You just had the bootleg. CDs, yeah, no, it is pretty cool. Thank goodness for Youtube and thank goodness for the people recording in people putting on Youtube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally man, so I mean it's definitely. It's definitely one that you can easily access and and and go back and listen to so but Yemen. I think that's about all my memories. I mean it's It's tough when you're talking about the no Glenn Era. But also. You, know those shows you know had their place and you know they're automatically going to be a lot more rock and a lot a lot more like raucous, and you know. This was a good start to that door I mean you know. So so yeah I if people have insight on the Glenn Situation I would love to hear if if there's something to to it but But you know it's interesting, because like you say this. Is You know this is a part of wing? You know it's like a different facet of wing to not have Glenn there and so what I'd say to anyone out there like especially. If you'd like the you know, the the heavier rock, the speed metal side of Wean the the Brown you'd like a little more hardcore like old brown stuff. This is definitely the show you want to. To. Check out like this is definitely your frigging up cup of tea and I would say you know. What if you love Glenn like? I Love Glenn. You know he's gone. He's not in the show, but it's still a fantastic show, so I got to sell that they him. Being absent on this show does not hurt the quality of the show because the show takes on its own identity. It's like takes on a new identity for wing. That yet you know so great show especially if you're into that that harder harder side of Wean. Highly. Recommend checking the show out. Absolutely well, put. In and I would also just say Gosh Darn it like. You know. Why was I missing these shows back then and I'm down I, don't how do the count to see if this puts you up one to? Two shows at this point, but anyway I'm. At anyway, you know it's always a bummer when you know in, there'll be some shows coming up that I that I went to the. You didn't so ted for yes. Yes, there will be shows where you're gonNA. Take down and I'm I'm ready to hear some good stories. Yeah totally. Well Anyway, so my shoutout to our our friend K. dog for going with me to this one and for driving us there in back and to and Jimmy for hooking up with the tickets, and to Fred for being in my memory forever memory burn of Fred. A. Of like I said seeing him. You know maybe I at least said like hey, man like you know. Hey Shane Nice to meet but I. I know we didn't have the conversation or anything that night, but I specifically remember seeing him and him rocking out that night, so shout out to those dudes. Very happy to have gone and to made it to to this one unscathed. We didn't we didn't get murdered? Burden in Seabright Abba Sopranos by right by Jimmy or the Sopranos. So you know it was a win win. For us that night, Yeah, you got out. You got out of Jersey. Home Alive, so it's always. If anyone out there has kid I love Jersey I love Jersey I kid. Yeah, right? If anyone out. There has a story for this show. 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Super Mario Maker 2: Tips from Nintendo Treehouse!

Nintendo Power Podcast

48:34 min | 1 year ago

Super Mario Maker 2: Tips from Nintendo Treehouse!

"Games rated e to m. Welcome to Nintendo power podcast, this episode we share tips for super maker to from the experts in intendo tree house. My name is Chris late in joining me today are Morgan Ritchie from Nintendo treehouse. Hi, morgan. Hey, thanks for having us. Thanks for coming on, and Eric Smith. Also from the tree house higher. Hey, what's up nothing much? Just that thanks for coming on the show. You know, we just had an episode a couple of weeks ago, right after three but I really couldn't wait a hold of the month to talk about Super Mario maker to visit. It comes out today, the day that we're releasing this episode and people are filing to be able to get their hands in the game. And they started build their own courses thought, it'd be cool to get a few pointers from you too. And first off, not everyone might know this. But you created the courses that were used during the Super Mario maker to Invitatinal twenty nineteen which was held just before he three and I wanted to ask, what was that whole experience like building those courses testing them out? And also wanna see how you guys reacted to, to how they perform during the event more than you wanna start that up. Yeah. And I think most probably the question I have to rewind a little bit. We actually had the good fortune of working not just in location on Super Mario maker. To but also on the original Super Mario maker, and part of that we also ended up making the courses for the NBC twenty fifteen cracks and twenty seven and twenty seventeen. And it's funny. And I think I remember that your some of the first courses you made were actually added put on the disc for the original Super Mario maker. Isn't that right? Correct. Yeah. The NWC twenty fifteen one through four made it onto the disk back then in two thousand fifteen I mean, we, it wasn't necessarily that we were sort of had this pedigree of, of, you know, being leveled as being working location, and we were working on making we'd played it probably more than anybody in North America that time anyway, you know. And so we just buy it was sort of, like we wanna feature this game in the world championships, like we need to levels. Can you guys make levels and it's sort of led us down this, this pack. Yeah. Which is still going so. Yeah. It was really cool to get a chance to sort of, you know, make them again for this imitation. Yeah. Yeah. It was it's been an awesome experience, as said, we kind of wear that I people like on the western hemisphere, to, like, have this much experience with the original Super Mario maker. And you know, obviously we've played every two de Maya game ever made pretty much every Mario game ever made. That's that's true. I think, yeah, I think I have to just because I love Mario. So. It was it was a, an honor really to be able to make the courses for all of these NWC antenna world championships champ. Ding tournaments terminus. Yeah. And it was interesting in the first world championships making the levels was sort of. I've learned so much about making good levels like since then almost the games out because once game came out, you sort of had this math like everybody making courses courses for all these other games done. Quick events just the mass amount of you watching streamers play courses. But in the original Nintendo word Jefferson twenty fifteen. I mean one of the levels to be compelling but you're nobody really seen the game at that point. So I look back at some of those courses on McMahon. Why would I why did I do that? Why did I put that enemy in that in that boss, I control the player like that? But also like we one of those moments and nobody knew you could even do a lot of that stuff. We also didn't have checkpoints back in that version think, so I know you're asking us about the immigration, but we rewinding back learned. So I had to sort of go back re re watched those courses rethought about those courses. And then when making for the rotational was, like, okay, this is not a new an unknown thing Mari maker is a known quantity, this mine, there's been so many courses created by the community. Now, we have a chance to showcase maker two and also sort of put to bear all of our the things we've learned. About making courses that we think are cool and fun, and polished. And I think that inspired, I think I'm more proud. Of course, it'd be made for this one, the original because we didn't have the sort of wow, factor of the gaming is unknown thing being able to rely on these like amazing visual moments. And like what you can do that. You can do that at this point. We a lot of this was known in the community in Sony, Nintendo direct about Brian maker to. So it became really more about, like, really quality course design hopefully treating the player fairly while while Mon the viewer and the players things like that, for the most part. But there, there's also that that of we want to show off everything. That's new in this game. That's in the game in general. You know, so there's a delicate balance of making a course or courses that, you know, are truly competitive, you know, that don't have a lot of this R N G random elements where one player is going to be treated unfairly and others going to gain an advantage because of that. But you have to balance that, with, like, we also want to show. Everything that this game can do. So it is delicate balance of, of creating something that is super competitive, but maybe not exciting to watch because there's not those well moments. Yeah. And something that is going to showcase a lot of those awesome moments. Like, I remember in, there was a course for NWC twenty fifteen where it's like this kind of maze, puzzle thing where you come up to four doors that are numbered, and you walk into the store and you don't know what's on the side one player might choose the right path, and get in advantaged other player might open the door, and see, like three giant bows. Irs staring them down. And, you know, at the competition that gave that was a huge well moment. And I remember being there and hearing the crowd, Vic, just kind of like gasp in shock that there were three browsers like stacked on top of each other. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. And you know that, that was something that might not you know, if this was like a pure just like. Competition that might not be fair to to the player. But like it's we also trying to show the game off. So, yeah. And we have and making courses for events like this, you sort of have to think about the player and the viewer. So you're, you're making courses that you want the players to, you know how fun playing to, to be a challenge. But you also want the viewer to have a good time to. So there's a lot of things I think I might do if I was if I was making, of course, just to put online and sort of challenge just players. But when there's a whole audience watching, you sort of want you don't want players to get too far ahead of one another. You kind of want to be that tension of kennison person second place catch up you on on in this case, we even you know we had we had courses in each of the the different game styles. But also, we wanted to show off, like, for example, like playing coop. An Eric, actually was the one that I was like it was Eric nine also eaten dill in the tree house, made the courses, we sort of picked okay who wants to thirty world like, in eastern did that one and Eric was like, I wanted to call up one because we knew we wanted to have a co op. So I was I was so glad that Eric like grabbed onto. I'm making a cop course because I, I don't even I don't know how he did it. But yeah, yeah. That was a Superfund process in it again, that's something, you know, we didn't have local multiplayer in the past Mari maker game so e-essentially single player experience. So now that we have that local multiplayer I wanted to showcase something where two players could work together to accomplish the goals. And it was really interesting design process, because I kind of had to, you know, in initial design ahead like Fink about how to players going to go through this and kind of, like, hold the two controllers and try to play through it and see if it worked. And then obviously, like there's a ton of play testing regret dozens of people from across the treehouse from, you know, the testing department, and we ended up changing the courses, a lot from the initial design, but it was definitely something where you have to let people play and then watch, and then tweak, and it's just so iterative. And you know, Morgan's throwing out suggestions. That's awesome. And doing that in we're all just kind of helping each other out. I think that's so important is having people play test your levels because no matter how good, of course, creator, you are. No matter how great your ideas might be. You never quite can him. Guess exactly what the player's gonna do what they're going to try. And it could be things that you never thought of, in some cases, that can kind of really undo everything that you, you've put together, someone could find a way to skip over this whole great portion of a level that you created and spent so much time on. And so, you know, I think in general, you know, getting your friends, your family to play these levels as great, but that's got to be on a whole of the level, when you know, that not only is this a competition like you said where you want there to be an even playing field, but then everyone's going to be watching that must have just really increased the pressure to make sure that these, these levels are really polished and really tight. Oh, totally. Because as Morgan said, you want the players to kind of like go through at the at the same speed or like kind of be at the end. Like, I don't know if you wanna talk about your design process for. On twenty nineteen that final Boston counter with ice ical. Yeah. So I ended up sort of being the one that made the, the course for the final round. And I knew it would be two players playing at the same time, and I wanted to sort of have, you know, being the final round, I really wanted to have sort of to feel large and grand, and sort of have a really cool aesthetic. And of course, it had to have a bowser fight. I feel like you know it just felt right? And but the minute you had in Marin maker. You've got the orange e factor you've gotten you know, he's a little if you just put them on the ground, he's kind of, you know, he's jumping around. He's shooting fire but fire like family. If you have if you have a mushroom or super you can just sort of damage boost your way through him, like take a hit. And when you're blinking just run past him feels cheap, and it's going to anticlimactic at the very end of a competition like that. Yeah. So I really but I was like I gotta have. So I spent probably spent a week sort of tinkering with this final boss fight, where I was like I got to have bowser I'm going to have lava, and I was like, I'm an attached house or two to one of the tracks. So you can't see you. Can't get past him, then I kept having to fill in. I would fill in all the like the blocks around him. But I didn't want it to feel too cramped. But there's a point where to not let somebody sneak past him, you have to sort of pack him in pretty tight, I was like, well, if I don't want someone to be able to damage the repacked him, so I'm not going to be any power in that. So there's all these little things end up going into the overall course design. We're like, okay no power ups because I don't want someone to ever chance, take a hit. But because of that you don't want like in that course it sort of starts out in a in a bazzars castle. And then I knew I'd have a sub world that I wanted to vertical and I got into sort of ice idea. And then once I had the ice, I was like, oh, this fire and ice. That's really cool. And then I was like, well, there's no reason icicles can't be in the castle to that's kinda cool. That's an ice castle and just see how the color, you know, really aesthetic stuff. And that's one of the things about making having sort of a reason to sit your desk, and spend an entire day, making a course and knowing that there's gonna, it's gonna get this large viewership. It's sort of. A lot riding on it. Is it gives you the reason to go all in on everything game plastic play testing the kind of stuff that I'd like to think that I would do that, when I making stuff at home? But you have this extra motivation to go way above and beyond. And I love that because I feel like I mean I don't know the hours we put into this. I, I wasn't counting, but it's a lot, there's a lot and. Yeah, just tinkering around like I made a boss fight with bows, or probably I made something and then wiped out made something wiped it out. I took the six interational. I kind of figured out what you can I can stand in the icicles we jump off and they can hit bows there. And I can do this, and it just sort of all I'd love to say that had this whole plan in my when I said out, but a lot of it is iterative play test sting, what people sort of what they like. Wow. That was someone's like, wow, that's really cool. You know. Okay, I'm on the right track. Like this is getting somewhere doing all those countless hours that you guys worked on those levels, and all the levels before what are especially for super make. To specifically all of the new features and the new parts that have been added. What are some things that you discovered about some of these new parts, and maybe what are some of your favorites and can give us any tips on how to incorporate those into levels that people might not necessarily know straight when they start playing the game. Sure. Yeah. You know, we for the championship levels, you notice there's a lot of, on off switches in there, which a new course, element and basically, those interact with a bunch of other objects. So there's awesome moment in that last level Morgan where you get to the end of that first section and. What's skewer, skewer? Yeah. So the skier comes up in hits, the on off, switch and basically, like turns off these blocks that one of the competitor was hoping to land on and to see face plants into the lava, and you know. Oh, they felt it was kinda troby but he had a chance to you got to, you got to be aware. You surroundings man. Yeah. I mean it was right there. And it's like the skewer interacts with those on off switches, and turn off blocks. And then, you know, same thing with ISIS, you know interact with on off switches, the shells interact with enough switches, so like in, in the co-op one, I made for this for this last championship. There's this section where you go through a pipe and both players kind of have to like time jumps on these platforms. But the platforms are switching on and off by themselves. And that's because there is a, you know, Canaan shutout a shell on his kind of bouncing back and forth off a wall, and then off the on off, switch turning all the platforms in the area on and off, like at a very steady rhythm, ten of recreating, the, the blinking block almost from the Super Mario three d world style. Exactly. Yeah. And then you can kind of vary the speed at which that's turning on and off by making the wall that it's bouncing off an opposite side like farther away. So you so much, you can do with on off switches. Yeah. I think I think people are going to go completely nuts with those because. Yeah, there's so many ways to trigger them. You're gonna play just jumping hit it. You can have enemies, trigger skewers hit it. You can even have Flom stir them, but the floppy to be close enough to have a sideways, thump trigger on us which is, but the Trump won't move sideways until you get close enough to trigger it. So that's completely different like a skewer that's just going to keep going in and out on its own rhythm. If you're close enough and even icicle, I got really the icicles, that's actually, one of my favorite things the my new parts, especially the, the ice icicles that if you close enough, they fall and then they respond and they'll hurt you. If you hit it from the bottom, you can actually stand on top of them, but they can also trigger on switches, and I started making this at one point in the course I made for the final rotational I, I, I realized you can have an icicle falling icicle hanging above on off. Switch. And if you sprint under the off switch, it will have triggered it to fall. And like it will fall behind you trigger the, on off, switch, and that could like make blocks, turn on in front of you. So I had this whole section where you're you have to sprint under non off switch jump. And then the icicle falls like way in your wake and then and then you're jumping under another one in the blink and the blocks are turning on. But then I realize it's totally unfair for somebody that in like a blind speed on competition. But I was really into that idea of just how I hadn't been spending hours and hours playing with icicles and it wasn't till I randomly happened to sprint under one in it fell behind me that I was like. Oh man. The kind of things I could do at that. And I love those moments of discovery. Even with things. You kind of know all the ways certain parts can interact, and then you find some new, you know, interaction that just inspires like a whole new line of thought like I need to make a whole new course to like see that outright. And that's a great point that you made about, you know, it kind of being too hard for a blind speed run. You know there are a lot of times in these competition courses where players, you know, lost because they, they fell on spikes or something like that fell to their doom. Exactly. But for the most part, you, you don't want to bog down the viewership because every time someone loses they have to start over at the very beginning. So it's like you want to make a course that's hard to get through. But. It's hard to get your quickly but hard to get through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even a couple years after the original Nintendo world championship in twentieth, teen. The Dev team in Japan actually asked us if we can make a course for one of their events, and which was a huge honor to us to have them reach out to us, and they wanted it to be the final because they just you know they were inspired by some of the things we had done like it's different than what we want. We want us to do for this, and I remember we made it, we're like, okay, this is going to be for the final round. It's going to be at the same time and we definitely want those places as close as possible. So we intentionally our number one we set out and I'm like, let's let the player not able to lose a life in this course period. Right. And that was really fun. Because we, you know, we kind of come a long way to get down sexy really hard to do a course where. Yeah. The player can't lose a life is. It's actually very challenging. And we, we had to come up with all these tricky jumps, and tricky thing than like it almost end up feeling like this super challenging, like, like obstacle course or something because you had. To do all this sort of calcium and acrobatics you'd have to do as a as Mario player. But there was never sort of that fear of. Oh, if I do that, I'm not gonna you know, I'm about to start over and again. Yeah. Not that we did that for everyone of the courses in the mutational. But we definitely sort of kept that in mind, that's something that's been on my mind, just creating my own courses is thinking about them eventually being downloaded and played by the people is I would like to make the course you know, challenging, but not where you're constantly getting stuck, or certainly not getting frustrated or losing a lot of lives. But then sometimes there's this particular challenge. And I think well as long as it's clear in fair, even if it's difficult. That's okay. Maybe that bumps this level up into kind of the expert or super expert category. But for example, there's one room that I just put into a level I was creating that all it is, is you walk into the room checkpoint flag. And there's a big pit and on the other side of the pit is a key. So to get the key, you have to just jump the big. But it's too wide, but in the center of the ceiling is a pipe that is constantly spawning, dry bones shells that are parachuting down slowly to the middle of the screen into the pit. See if you can leap into one of those and then leap back out of it before it drops off the bottom. That's how you get across. And when you nail that when you when you get the timing right on that. It feels so good. And it's a little bit more of an advanced move. And I, I love having an in there, but anytime I have someone play it. They lose at least half a dozen lives for even get across the first time and then they have to make it back. So I guess you're always thinking about, you know, balancing things out. And you know is, is not only is the the is this going to be a fair challenge? But is it presented enough to the player that they understand if they lose a life that it was ultimately, you know, their own fault and not because the game cheated them somehow. Yeah, that's a really good point in a and that's that server. My mid something that I it's taken me a long time to sort of fully sort of decided this philosophy realized this sort of thing for myself. But. I come to especially when the first mar- maker came out to my maker, I, I used to be really into superheroes. And I there's a point where I got into speed reading my Bros, not on the level that some of the like obviously the people that have world records, things like that. But I got to the point that I could basically run as fast as I could beat Marlboros using warps, but basically, never hold letting go of run, you know, so you're basically making all the long jumps. And so on Meyer gonna make it came out. I was so excited to, I'm so into those long jumps those full on your holding run. You're jumping as far as you can the jumping again. And, you know, you can use the Mario sort of trail in Miami to sort of you can make those long long long jump. So I was making all these courses or you have to do these perfect long jumps. And then I realize we dissect like. Like when those courses when people speed run Margate it's not like the courses were designed for speeding people. Just figured out how to get through them as fast as possible. So even though I love being able to get their courses quickly with really challenging jumps. I realized that, that's almost like the secondary come second on a really good course, sort of be its own thing. And also, if you want to get there quickly, that's great, too. So in the level I made for the rotational there's some ways to get through it a lot quicker than the people did live. And, and I felt like they probably wouldn't figure out those bigger jumps in the moment, but I liked it. They're in there. So I sort of intentionally was, you know, even sent the courses to the deputy Japan to review them to before we sort of consider them final to be shown, on stage on these events. And even brought up that kid, you know that if you do full big jumps in the section you can skip that thing. And I'm like I totally that if that's intentional. That's totally fine. And it was really cool that they called it out. But also, I felt like graphite those. Yes. That actually. Is intentional. I like when there's both sort of an easy route that slower and hard route that's faster, but more dangerous. I always try to work that into my courses philosophy now is not worry about, like starting off, with those super super big technical jumps with no river air. But when you're playing through the course then trying to do that on top of it, and then media just some things, so that somebody on a second, or third year going for speed could link things in a way that might not have been sort of you realize that the first time through. Yeah. I think tutti Mario games. Like mainline games. Do that really. Well, too. I mean that's kind of a hallmark of a Mario courses. There's multiple ways to get through it kind of begin a route and expert route. Yep. Not only does you know that add depth to it to be on this makes developing the course easier or like designing easier because you're testing, you know you play much times, and you can basically start the course and get to a trouble spot, or something you're trying to work out because, you know, a fast way to get to. The spot you actually wanna test. Yeah. I think it's probably a good editor have multiple rounds of testing before you upload a course like before what I've done is, I've gone through a course and, and said, I'm decidedly, not gonna hit the run button and see if I can get through this. And see if there's if there's still ways to do it for people that don't often use the run button. Then I'll get back through it and try to speed run. And anytime I for example, enter a new screen and maybe immediately, you know, jump, but I just happened having any that's place at a certain point with I do that. I'm gonna hit them a move that enemy a space forward or backward. Then you start fine tuning it said, if people do want to really get into speed running it satisfying on that level, too. And one thing I did before is used to like to put secret hidden war areas levels for the original super maker, where you could basically skip the entire stage. But then I did that. And I realized that once people figure that out it kind of ruins the fun of anyone trying to beat world records on it. So it kind of removes it from speed running contention. So you have to keep that in mind, too. Yeah, absolutely. I love the speed running aspect of it. And, you know, trying to trying to shave you know, that I know that me and you in Mario maker, went back and forth on a bunch of stages, like trying to shave off, like milliseconds from each other's times, sort of thing, and I absolutely love difficult courses create difficult courses. I think that's one thing Super Mario maker does really well. Is that in a mainline to de Mario game you know, it's hard to include those types of courses that are just brutally difficult because you're generally aiming those courses at a very small part of the overall player base, the people who are, you know, are masochists in and love playing those really, really difficult courses what you know, in supermax had these fischel courses. And there these official course creators, online and the bows or courses online are some. That I made that kind of embody that you know that really difficult. Course that you, you kind of take fifty tries to get through. But feel so good. When you finally get through it. Yeah. I think challenges great. I think I think people just need to be careful that what they're asking people to do is something that people can they have a good shot at, at figuring out understanding. You know, one of the things that I can't have encountered with the same level that I mentioned earlier, I created the Dr on shell I think a lot of things around the drive on shell but it's new element in this game. I have to remember that people don't necessarily know that you can do ground pound while you're in a drive on chiller that if you press down that you become Apollo bones in her invincible for these seconds. So I tried to build the level in ways that kind of forces you to learn those elements before you can proceed and gives you some save spots to kind of do that. And then I even went a step further in the you can now add description, text each of your levels. Yeah. And I even added the drive on shell controls. Basically, was this description tax for that level? So think it's fine to offer challenge. But I think is, as, as you may be taught in the details. And the yellow Moore's dodo section of the game is always keep the player in mind, and, you know, don't necessarily think that it's going to be great. If you stumped the player, ultimately, what you're hoping the player does with your level. Whether it's challenging you're not is just that the joy themselves. Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, I love in the in the young whereas though Joe and tomorrow to not just the lessons. But it's it's so simple. But just that you can look at the controls for every every, you know, style because there's some of those jumps like three world you can do. I, I don't even know the name of you hold down for a few seconds. And then jumping you kind of this backflip back jump, and like. I don't I don't even know. You could I make course where you have to do that jump in. And yeah, that the player might not realize that, but maybe you could put that in the script or just call it, you know, call name the course backflip back and Astor something because there's all those every style won't even not the original all the styles. Have these extra jumps that and little moves that I'm excited that there's a real easy way in the game to sort of remind yourself, professor memory, all this stuff, and the way that people are going to, I can't even I am so excited. Just to see what people do, because there's just so many new, combinations, new parts and the. Yeah, it's, it's gonna be so excited. Yeah. People are gonna do some wild things that certainly the depth team. Never imagined that could happen when you tested this many elements that can interact with each other and just throw it out there for for, you know, so many people to play it's gonna get wild. Yeah, absolutely. So before we close out the supermom maker to discussion, what are some final tips? You guys might give it may be even say some of the most important tips that anybody can apply to their own levels to, to make great courses. So one thing I just I mean, it might be obvious to a lot of people. But maybe not to newer makers is that when you're making course you know, you can, you can press, minus and that'll drop you into playing your course wherever you're at in level. But if you present hold minus you'll play it from the start. And it's important when you're making a section to always play it from the start to see. Make sure everything kind of loads in that the timing things works out. So all usually do all sort of make AVI making things tapping into play in sort of working them all out as I go. But I always take time to restart from the beginning to make sure if I'm running through it or walking through it, that everything's happening in the right. You know, just the timing is working out the way you expect it to same thing, when adding pipe and making a sub area. You know, make sure you go out of that type back in to make sure that maybe enemies, you've added or, or traps triggers that you kind of realize that timing you don't want. I mean, you'll eventually probably you'll have to play the course upload it, but you can save yourself, a lot of trouble by playing it from the start well making so that you don't have to sort of make a whole course. And then realize this isn't quite right. Like what's going on here, say thanks for that tip. Because you could press, obviously minus to start playing the course you're making the moment. I didn't know that. If you held it you start at the beginning. That's pretty help yet it's great. You hold on. You kinda and then it drops in right at the start as if you'd started the course you know, metro naturally, and that's great for sort of testing out that full full. On run through, I that's another thing, people might not know is that if you click in on the sticks, you can also zoom way out or zoom weigh-in. But if you way out, you can see the entire for example, to full screen height of, of a horizontal a layout. And you can also grab a lot more in that from that point. And I always think that, that really gives you a great kind of overhead macro view of not just the one particular part of the level, you're working on, but all the levels our parts around it. So that's another great thing to us. I think when you building level, I've been using that a lot the view mode because I, I really go all in on the aesthetics of the courses even if there's something at the top of the screen, and maybe no see it, I like to sort of fill in the I really overboard with that stuff from that view mode. Yeah, when you're zoomed out, you can't select a new part to add in. But yeah, you can you can multi grab anything you already have there you can copy it, so you can fill in those large swath of ground blocks, or you can copy L, like, if you're adding coins, you could you could just switch to copy and from that zoomed out mode, you could like do an artistically, I with Coen, just by copying. When you already have. People are going to really, I think use that a lot for that exactly what you said that bird's eye view and just for stepping back. It's like a painter stepping back from their from their, their painting. Look, you know, okay, let's. Yeah, I would say my tip is, you know, think about the aesthetics of your level. Think about how your level looks to a new player who's never seen it. You know, I, I do see a lot of levels at are like kind of just too many elements in them. You know, there's nothing wrong with level having just Goumas for bad guys. You know, or or having, you know, just certain materials or, or focusing on certain colors. You know, I mean, I think the aesthetics really add to the experience and it is, there's kind of an art element to you. You have this huge palette of parts that you can place anywhere. But that doesn't mean you should place everything. Anyway, I think things like for me when my pet peeves is when people have just like floating dirt blocks, you know, in the air, always supported by anything. And I'm just like you know. That maybe those could be bricks in and you can take kind of inspiration from actual Mario games. Like they're never gonna have floating blocks because. Doesn't float but in Mario's world and mushroom kingdom. Hey bricks float passes? That's how it is. And I think you can do a lot of cool things with, you know, like these, these platforms that basically add to the background, right? So I'll write. Yes. Masala. Platforms, basically, you can have if you wanna have suspended in the air, maybe throw a semi-solid platform that looks like it's holding it up. So there's some sense of gravity to the to the environment. I think that really adds to the experience for the player who's playing through in, like, wow. That is actually really cool. Even if they're just running by it, you know, at, at a fast as they can. Yeah, I think it helps. Yeah. Eric, I think when Ethan and I think Eric has always. And again, this is this is just a style. We were using. I mean you could you could do whatever you wanna marry maker. But having these things in mind, I think, really sort of help you. Ethan dylan. I when we were making courses, we sort of had Eric sort of it's like Eric's philosophy. Of course, ascetics in mind because even when I was making the final course I wanted icicles, but I didn't wanna just an icicle attached to nothing but I wanted it at so I would use a semi solid. You know, I was like what would air Do? Okay. I'll use semi saw bring thing down the background and then have the ice school right at the bottom of. So it kind of looks like it's maybe hanging off something and doing that. I think actually it's not. It might seem sort of superfluous when you're like. Well that's not even game play. But it really does by sort of thing. How is everything in this in this course supported, what's holding things up where things coming from it really? I think will inspire. Make your course feel more real and inspire you to sort of keep putting more more finishing touches on it. Yeah. I think there's a great points in reminds me of some of the lessons in Yamamaru's. Doj where they talk about the atmosphere, you create and how simple changes in, in the parts used in the arrangement can really create a different kind of feeling in the player. So I think that's hugely important for sure. One thing that, I'll add is, I usually, I'm pretty bad myself at just sitting down in front of the screen and just coming up with something on the spot in when I do and kind of building inches. I tend to kind of work myself into a corner. So it helps for me is, is to just go away to some scratch paper in and start sketching out different ideas in for one of my stages recently, I found it even really helped. I sketched them down really quickly on index cards because it had all these ideas for different parts of a stage, but I didn't know how they would fit together. And then I was able to reshuffle, the cards and kind of put them in different configurations until I felt like that was a good pacing, and then I filled in the gaps in that really helped too. So I don't maybe sit down and, you know, just like you wouldn't have someone sit down and just freehand draw final illustration without first roughing it out. I think I think the early work really pays off in the end. That's a good point. And yeah, that's definitely one way to go about it. And I prefer that method, but there's something to be said for just going into the software and kind of take. Stuff and throwing everywhere and see where it lands. And that's a least good way to come up with new concepts or DA's, which you can then refined further, exactly. Will think so much. I mean I could talk about supermarket to all day, but we're running out of time so gotta move forward and we're going to next talk about players pulse. And as always, we usually go out to Twitter for players pulse and ask the fans to answer certain questions and this time actually still keeping on the Super Mario maker to theme. We put a poll up, what we wanted to know was here, just days before the release of super maker to our recording this, we wanted to find out which new feature or part players, we're looking forward to trying burst. Not just I mean I'm looking forward to multiple features in the game. But what are they gonna dive into soon as he gets a copy of the game and others? Very interesting. So I'm gonna show the results so far with you here. Thirty percent said they were looking forward to trying story mode. I obviously it's going to be huge part of the game. Twenty-seven percent want to dive into multi-player right away. Twenty three percent. I'm really early forward to play playing others courses as the first thing they do. And then. Eighty percent want to start really digging in and making their own courses right away. So pretty even spread between the the top ranking one here in the bottom. It's only about ten percent. I think it just speaks to the broad range of things you can do and Super Mario maker to. Yeah. That's really cool to hear, you know, people are excited about those things, and for me story mode is absolutely incredible. You know, the first Sumaria maker game didn't pay, you know, necessarily as much attention to the to the story mode, because the games, you know, soul, not sold. The main focus is creation and playing other people's courses. But this time around the story mode is totally full featured, and it is super fund. Some really challenging stuff that you're not necessarily going to see in a in a mainline to d Mario game. And I'm really excited to see how people like yeah. I think that's the first thing I'm gonna do to even though I'm gonna I want to jump in his are making my own. I'm actually play through the entire story mode, I because I haven't seen all of those courses yet I didn't get a chance to play all them when the game is local. And I know that even the team having talked to Mr. Tesco d three he's even so excited about those courses like what the teams to do because they were able to really make all these all these courses in story mode that sort of show, you a different take on a different partner, different theme or defer style. And each one is sort of a different little different way to look at something different little inspiration. And they all have that polished, feel of a of a real course that I think people are really going to take a lot of inspiration from. I think it's a great place to start to, because, of course, it's such a great job of introducing the new parts and teaching you how everything works. So I think after you've gone through a bunch of these courses, then you'll have a much better idea of what's possible when creating your own courses. That's. We're now we're going to move onto pros picks. This is real. We talk about games that we've personally been enjoying lately. Eric, you wanna start a self what have you been playing lately? Sure, I am a huge secret of modification like that is, like, basically, the reason I'm here today like working at intendo secret Amman. So when we announced collection of Mata at three hours, like because I didn't even know it's reality. And I went out and bought a as soon as it became available. That's great. I've got that when ready to go on Tinder switch. And just haven't started yet, you know, too much super maker to lately. But, but it's one of those franchises that I've always heard great things about. But for whatever reason I missed out on it. So I feel like now's my time to catch up on a so good. I feel like everyone needs to play that game from start to finish by her. I heard in high school. I hurt my knee, basically spending tyre somewhere on crutches. And I friend of mine lent me his super Nintendo. I didn't own one in secret Amana secret secret. Manitou Nissar, my I grew up saying of man, I'm Ana somebody that's a Mata played that game. Like, I can't think of in hindsight. I'm like, I thank you for a super Nintendo. Plus that game. Yeah, I miss nicely. So, yeah. Good summer. That's great. Well Morgan, what have you been playing? So I also have a trials. It's not trials of Mana. But mine is actually trials rising. I am such a huge fan of the trial series. I love red links developer. You know, part of what we saw now and I you be fine. Yeah. Yeah. That's another one. I love the trials games. I'll trials rising. It's somebody who I talked a little bit about, I really like speed running games moving through platforms fast. And, you know, even though trials you know, it's a it's a sort of trials motorcycle game. It's basically just a high-speed platformer with really tight can really simple controls. Of course, it's all about sort of how fast can you get through a course and you're then shaving I could sit there and play the same track over and over. Seconds off my own time. I just I love the physics of it. The feel. It's a game I want to have with me. It's sort of the controls. It's in the sticks. And I love it. That's great. Yeah. I remember playing I think previous game in the series and trying to shave off that next little fraction of a second. If you if you like game like platforming gameplay, and just like really tight controls and sort of being able to sort of get through courses with all these micro adjustments in your speed. And it's just it's super flow in fast and feels it just feels great feels great. And there's like this, like, kind of hidden trigonometry stuff going on where you're like lining up angles. You know talking about trying to like maximize Fizi you by landing both wheels at the exact same time at the same angle. And then, you know debt hitting the gas at the right time. And it's it's actually really deep game doing all these micro adjustments to like shaves milliseconds. But it's yet you're also going really fast and flying off these huge jumps in Aaron a almost like a bit evolved, excite bike because even back in that'll name, you had to, you know how you landed on your wheels was such a an important part of the game play the original site by yeah. I think goes back to that, and he really excite by when you can make your own, you make your own tracks. If you, if you there was this crazy thing I'm probably the only people that figure this out that you, if you set the jumps, just right? You. Actually could build momentum in the excite bike, and you'd get more and more mental off longer logger jumps until you would come out of the top of the screen like you, would you would like out of the top of the screen and out of the bottom build these courses read, like build them all this momentum. So, yeah, that's probably that's probably try yours superman. Maker course, creating style started didn't even thought about that. I think you're right. For me. I've been playing mostly Super Mario maker to. But I have made some time for a couple of games controversial collection as an old school, you know, a bit contra fan. I was super excited to see that show up. You know, great for people that aren't familiar with the series. Great arcade, style running gun action. These are great games for two players in this collection has ten games, including the original contra from the arcade in the one most people probably a member, which is the version of contra plus my personal favorite in the series, which is contra three, the alien wars from super, and I really been enjoying playing through contra hard core, the Sega Genesis contra again, it's been years and years. Since I've played that one. So a forgotten most of it. So that's been a lot of fun. And then also there's a customer anniversary collection that I got before that, that was great. And then got a rebuttal, I mention this in the previous episode but that's been a great kind of metro style game where you're actually a cat and powered Mexi, which is pretty hilarious. And then seeing the reveal of hero and banjo, Zooey for super smash. Bros, autumn, it really got me playing super smash brothers ultimate again. And now I've gone through in collected all of the spirits associated with the joker deal sea, and sort of unlock more stuff and just started to chip away. Again. That's a hard game even come close to a hundred percent on, but I had this, this long term dream that I'm going to get there one day, so. Yeah. That is a big game. There's so much to it. And I don't even know how you hundred percent. I game just there's so much so much just keep going to you realize you've done as much as you can. Sure. All right. Well, next up, we've got warp zone. This is the quiz where I'm going to give you guys clues. You're going to try to guess some games that came out ten twenty thirty years ago we're going to be looking at games. All of these released again. Ten twenty thirty years ago in the month of June ready. Are we a team or a team or we compete against each other snap? We usually it's every man from self that you want to confer, I answer. Let's go. All right. Ten years ago in June of two thousand and nine here. The clues Nintendo published this platforming game for Nintendo DS, and it was the first installment of a long running series to come to the US. But in Japan this was actually the series fifth game. And in the game, your bright, Sheree character swim, spins jumps and slides way to victory in and around the ocean any guesses. Star fee starchy. Yep. That's it the legendary star fee, mice. Yeah, yeah, a lot of people might know this character even if they don't know him by name might know him from super smash brothers ultimate where he's at assist rookie. Hits you with his us star spin. I remember when that game can't we Eric, I were that takes us, we both been in the truth about about ten eleven years right about when that game came out, 'cause I remember there was a promotional lak- full body costume star fee costume that somebody came walking through the tree house wearing, like a full body Sarpi. I forgot about this giant star few costs down the hallway sideways, because it was like. That's great, if he'd done the span, he could have done some real damage. All right. Next up. We've got twenty years ago, this is June of nineteen ninety nine and the clues aren't Nintendo published a game for Game Boy color? That was a spinoff from major franchise with a lot of millions in which the goal was to head bumpers and other targets with a ball to get a high score. While also collecting one hundred fifty one different things any guesses. Bowl to hit targets and bumpers. Say the game also included two boards, a red board and a blue board. I mean, the sounds hundred fifty red and blow, the sounds very poke on, but it's not a puzzle league. It's like. Sounds like it was there. I have no idea. It was a Pokemon pinball game. I have no idea. I'm stumped took him on that puck among pinball. To figure out a game that you weren't even aware of. All right. The nice is this one's thirty years ago, June nineteen Eighty-nine Capcom published an action Asari published an action platformer for any s in which use a wide array of special powers to take on eight tough bosses in one despicable doctor, this is the second game in a classic long running series in many fans. Still consider it to be the best mega man to that's it make him into this was that was a crazy month by the way, June nineteen thousand nine we also had, let's see here teenage mutant ninja turtles track and field to in the adventures by Billy. I played so much mega man, I listen to the mega man music, like I don't even know which game but I have like a mega man music playlets that he's at work. Sometimes when I really need to get stuff done so good. Yeah. Yeah. When you wanna fight forever. Lasting peace. I can't believe that games. Thirty years old. By the way, I can't either. I played a lot of man as a kid. Right. Well, really quick before we wrap things up. We're gonna go through the game forecast. This is what we take a look ahead at some Keenan to switch games coming in July. I'm starting things off this month got on July fourth stranger things three, the game from bonus XP net flicks on July twelfth. We have dragon quest builders to and on July nineteenth. There's marvel ultimate alliance. Three the black order, and then on July twenty six we've got two big games, wolfenstein young blood from Bethesda soft works and firebomb three houses. Wow. That's a lot of good stuff. What pops off to you guys. I mean firearms three houses, I'm super super excited. That might be easy answer because, you know working the tree house. But I mean seeing the work that's gone into that game just the amount of passion from the development side, from the localization side from everyone involved with it, the game just has so much to offer people the fans of that series new people to the story the voices the game play. It's, it's. Like an epic. It's not even understand. There's an epic game and I'm really excited for people to dive into that world. Yeah. I've been purposely trying to avoid that one. So I can actually enjoy when, when it comes out. Yeah. I've been really looking forward to that game. And I wasn't always a big fan of the series. It was firing bloom awakening. I think that was the one I really jumped in on and I've gotten everyone sent. So I can't wait for this one. Nice, Eric, what are you looking for me? I say wolfenstein young blood, I mean, you know, I'm a big shooter fan and have been playing wolf and science original wolfenstein three d on on PC. So forty six threes. Yeah. It I'm super excited to that. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. When two I'm really looking forward to all these, but just one that you guys haven't mentioned yet stranger things three which is a huge fan of the television series. And I'm really looking forward to the season three but the game looks to have that, that pixel art style. And the kind of that old school beat him up kind of game play that you don't see very often these days. So I'm really curious to try that game. And hopefully like it as much as I liked the show. Yeah, I love the show excited to watch it when it comes out and play the game. And it's cool that they're synchronizing the launch of the show and the game same time, which is super. Yeah. Both on July fourth. I've gotta make sure I watched the show, I, I'm not spoiling the show when I played again, I'm sure they've taken into account. Explain what did the same exact time. It'll be maybe. Yeah. Yeah, that's the way. Eric, thanks so much for coming on the show. Yeah. Of course, it's been super fun. Yeah. Thanks for having us. I like I think you said earlier. Yeah. We could talk about Super Mario maker to all day. So excited for people have it in their hands now and I can't wait to play all the courses that are made being created right now. Absolutely. All right. We'll see next time. Thanks. Thanks. That's it for this episode of Nintendo power podcast. If you have any comments or questions you'd like us to consider answering on the show, you can Email us at Nintendo power podcast at NOAA dot Nintendo dot com. Also, we always appreciate it. 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210. Van Helsing: LIVE! (w/ Seth Rogen, Riki Lindhome, Ben Blacker)

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210. Van Helsing: LIVE! (w/ Seth Rogen, Riki Lindhome, Ben Blacker)

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Komen fight us on stage here or go. I think it's great to do Hugh Jackman movies because we love Hugh Jackman. Now, you gotta see where you came from like, you can have shore wis couple of big Wests, and then hung back big. This one was a street. You've this was. That was too long. Good. Slow. One point was like, oh, I must be this must be the last fight. Our? That cannot be right. I as soon as I saw the run time was two hours. Eleven minutes is like, ooh. Twenty five minutes to be. Yeah. We need to rule. We can't do terrible movies that are overdue. Our this is like I we got to put a stop. It really I know it's taking a toll on on all of last forty minutes or depressing. He really it starts to eat away. At you. Like, I'm still watching this. I would say the going on the most redemptive quality to this film was that it was available on Netflix. Like, I was like well all right to pay for it. Because. That's worth it up. I would rather pay for or I would rather pay for a shorter. This movie was terrible. I unconsciously my double header I was on an airplane last Sunday when I watched this was hereditary and van Helsing. Back. Here was a rough flight. Not a good. Life for me. Both of them. So sexy. Of them with with where wolves. There's a well. Right. Not that. I just we'll talk about. We'll talk about it. And we have such an amazing panel. You know, our first guest from the hit comedy central show, another period. And from the group Garfunkel notes, please welcome Ricky Leno. Or just you know from the thrilling adventure hour. He is an amazing writer, and as a brand new comic book graphic novel coming out called, heck's wives. It's coming on Halloween. Please look, Ben blacker. Or Mets just stuck around from the first show. Please look on Seth Rogan. This movie too. I did I saw to shit in the book and theater Email. I feel like this movie owes me something pleasurable at. So I would like to talk about. I also saw this movie in the theater and did not remember anything about it that it was bad. But not in what way was bad. I watched it today. They don't know what happened. How? Within the first twenty minutes. I started three times. To make sure I was watching the right move. Is it possible? I'm watching the wrong. No, you were watching the where wolf vampires. The right movie. And I was like, oh, no, it's it's a weird movie because it has all the makings of something. That should be good. How what are those? To me like this is a maybe a prequel to the dark universe. We love the dark universe. It's such a great start. No, it's such a it's like the movie, it's so It's Hugh Jackman as van Helsing who is this JAMES BOND. Ian, like vampire hunter has a who's -i Tross, Bo so stupid. Is so fucking stupid. And it does this shit that so many movies do where it takes place in the past. Right. But then they just give them technology gates. The fact that it's in the fucking passed and just click on but contemporary dialogue. Yeah. People in like medieval times, we'll be like that's going to hurt. What? No, it's not you don't say that sign up for a hundred years say that. That's right. It'll even Mark the thing that you're Tatum be the most about this movie is it opens up, and it looks like one of those classic like, you know, like, those classic car films black and white. If this movie had been made in nineteen forty six it would be the best. Flowed people's. Talking. They did that like I would love it. If it was like, a monster movie because I honestly went into this knowing anything. Okay. So then when it started with the black and white flashback of Frankenstein, Dr Frankenstein, blah, blah. I was like, oh, we what what is going. And this is my issue that flashback is revealed to be one year ago. Yes. Crazy. I understand at all. It was only every single thing happened in it. Introduces Dr Frankenstein be dreadful right off the bat. You're like what that's that's that's fully bringing his monster to life. Running it like Gus fring breaking bad. It's like tired out to Franken. I wrote it would point that he beats free consigns tech. That's. Like he can just pop around the room. There are no rules. There's no everyone can realize the rules. He could tell only when it makes the conversation. A little funnier. That's the that's the teleportation rule is like during a fight. He will not tell the part. But if it allows to like make the person talking to think that he's God come back that that he could tell like the teleport's like an annoying person teleport the roof style. There's a walking. All that's the craziest piece. Ever see the upside down. Not like, I'm gonna be on this movie is I think seven point five hours long. Ford part four and a half hours of it. Take place upside down. I felt. Up. So upside down crazy. Do you tell the costume department is like, oh, we're gonna have stuff that when it's upside down. Be so much flowing drapery. He's having like an emotional moment is hair is upside down. Sester his hair in this movie. And it kept trying to figure out what hair it was. And I so I haven't narrowed out I think it's either Jodie Foster in the accuse right? Like this got that little poof, or it's Sigourney Weaver and Ghostbusters. And then when it's raining it sort of share in moonstruck. But then it's a little bit Kelly McGillis in everything this movie should have been called like van Helsing extensions because everyone everyone is like my character is my hair. The vampire was very I wrote vampires puffy that's like Shrek, you just a little puffy. South just little unhealthy. And just what you think of what you think of that guy could use a. He's he's stayed out late last night. We just what empires do. But you shouldn't. Yeah. You that way? Showed. And he is getting twelve hours of sleep a night. Yeah. Yeah. Seen on only the best blood. Well, okay. There's nobody thinks what is gore can anyone answer? What he what is he going? I know what he is. Like, he's like, I think comedy relief in this mood. He like car or is. He a mutant like eager that I understand from the movies is like, yeah. But but he looks diff- weird. Look, what are those other things? You belugas could figure on Dr Frankenstein thing he wants money, but it seems to read call. Cash for something. Them. Who knows what for surgery stream? That's movie. Oh, this like a lot. He was great to be tastes notice that Mr Hyde is in this movie. I read that this is the first introduced to him van Helsing. He is fighting Dr Jekyll mister high where in. Dame? No book and Hunchback sippy there, right? First thing with Frankenstein's translator. It's like our first geographically fuck. Everything. ADR him saying, Mr Hyde, right? 'cause like they couldn't get the rights, then he fucks. He's bad at his job is the other thing. He's been housing sucks. Fucking kills the guy. He always kills the always got you gotta bring him in alive, but don't kill him. And he's like, oh I killed by the way that it shows like eight goes out of its way to show the transformation to a person like he's about to. It's he turt- just in time for you to watch his soul. Leave his body. He transforms into a armless, man. I see his orbits God that he's gonna die. You watch it happen and then people's swarm around him, and then a policeman looks up, and it's like van Helsing you murder. That's the central. This movie has over like bad health thing is a cop in this world. And he has a Basel God damnit hill thing here. Give me your crossbow you he's like he's like, it's it's JAMES BOND. He's Miguel JAMES BOND. Here's A Q. Yes. I feel like I don't know who that actor was I'm sure he's great. But I feel like they thought that q was so funny funny man pleased with how. He's a James. He's. Draft talk. Okay. Who makes yes? Yes. He has. They didn't understand everyone hadn't even like vowed clue. Hopefully was six years old. Win him. They all it is governed three hundred who's narrating it with the that. It's the guy from the Lord of the rings. Thank you. But he he sets up the bomb that they use at the end in the dumbest way ever I've ever seen in any movie. Deborah what it does what is don't. I don't know where you would ever use this thing that gives you so much light light in it. But we know how that works. They don't seem to. Shingles, he's in possession of the exact weapon to use against vampire. Does this? Do here's your here's your fucking holy water. This lightbulb too. I don't know if it's ever going to be useful. But it has the light of thousand son. So you might as well, take it. Take it. Books even summers. That's how I feel about all of his movies because they all are like almost right? But then like, it's a thing. So he's playing wolverine to a certain degree, right? The guy who has no memory of his past. But only details XP X men had come out. I believe something. Very he's very feminine in this like, I was really into the curl sort of when he had the mask the abandon. I thought it was Kate back in jail. No, really because he's sort of smoldering. And then he took it off. And it was just like Hugh Jackman and like a wet pilgrim hat and like Olsen. Curls is the worst hill. I like that it's wet. On her head. He's like I've been wearing this for four hundred years. His deal at all the old that he what? Of years old, right? No. About they said they found two on the doorstep as a baby. But then later he was an adult. So I don't know Dracula's like in three hundred years since I've seen you took. My ring you missing you murdered me. Grow his finger. Stand out. Didn't Howard have movie like your bears you've been having. The movie does not stop for any. Like every everything about your past. That's for another discussion sequel. That's a lot of the movie is in is. I could I actually I know what the bad guys were trying to do. But I didn't tell you what the good guys do which is just trying to keep gremlins. So so. It's these vampire, ladies, so how it away. I would love to see that. I think for earth out thousands of peace. Just fucking shoot. These things out. Machi bags? Could goalie worth of -ment? Every time every week. It sounds like, and but they keep dying for some reason. So they need Frankenstein's tack yet. Seoul Titi to the fucking. Multiple lightning strike. Yeah. The vampire babies to live long enough to who fucking. Doesn't add up. Ply into pillars explode into all. But didn't they didn't they kill off the four thousand sex, and then he had another more. Oh, yeah. Those those word that drags you. Make no mistake. He's got three brides and drag kilo looks like he's dropping loads in these gals. They are dropping out cocoon sex of alienate how they how those come out of them. I was looking online do do vampire, bats shootout execs hand. Yeah. You know, get affect your thirty three. The targeted ads you're about to get. Silly. So many execs women are constantly ovulating escort about it's crazy. Can say it's nuts. But I don't for the life of me could not tell you what then Helsing was sent there to do. I save Kate. Becky and sale and her like incestuous brother, I because nine generations need to go to heaven. They're invergowrie. That's what I figure out. There doesn't save. Kills her. Ruin it. In the movies. The most to be treated him. They treat it like he did what he was supposed to. Ride away funeral of the bird like a beautiful subset shot. See the vich or do you? Burder or women that I love to fight as well, high fine. Carl and be like I fuck in L dish. L dish. You know that they had to perfect. The client eating today again. Wouldn't be surprised if this is part of the van wilder series. But don't you feel like JAMES BOND wrong? It's like, oh, yeah. The end killer. So then the next movie new girl. But him kill her. There's a sequel. They were trying to make they're trying to make this ship. It's so it's in the it's so still, but you also supposed to believe at the end like she's happy now because she's with her family in the house. That was crazy. Like who cares? What die the whole time? Why why try to save her? Yeah. Just kill him. The whole thing makes sense. I feel like maybe there was an antidote that she brought. The. She stabbed him with when he was a wolf and then he killed her. Ward maybe for saving him from a life of being aware. Wolf is death. Also, Hugh Jackman turns into a wear wealth in this movie, which is another thing. So are you aware what like? She and her like what I. I don't know why. But yet he's working for an organization that is the Vatican Atkins secret service. There's also other religions tied up. It's like Buddhists. It's the one thing religions agree on is that we have to kill monsters. Yet. But yet they work in secret and people are mad at him. When he kills monsters his burden. I'll take it. I'll just look like a bass murder, but I'm no, I'm killing monsters. But yet he is still killing people are probably terrorized by these monsters. I would think do we know? Why Dracula needed Frankenstein's tech sacks? Yeah. Exact babies alive because aren't vampires that was where I got released. There's a line that vampires are dead. So openly makes sense that their offspring are born dead is a line in the movie. And you so that's the logic. Is there born dead and Frankenstein's tech brings dead shit back to life. I've got their babies are born dead. They'd freak insides tech to juicer babies speaks. A lot of repeat it kinda starts over in the middle. Yeah. Movies. Yeah, they take a three minute break. And then the action starts again. He's like we're starting the movie everybody. Everybody who lives in Transylvania seems unfazed by the existence of flying vampire harpies a weird thing is they stay at night. Everybody's like life is gray. They also like you you kill them on are one of us a month. It's out that. That's funny. Movies like their world. They've decided it's okay. If the. Puts about the balance. How we got a thing that come in fucking it up a couple of people the guy the care that the catering guy take love Steph that just loves it still ironic that he was digging a grave, and then he actually ended up in the gray of. Of storytelling. The cat. I did love the set design. It was maybe like I was doing Halloween horror nights at Universal Studios. Because I was like one step below that. It was it was. So like, I mean in CGI in this movie, they stole all the Lord of the rings, the first movie outside Lord of the rings did it, but they didn't quite like finish it or something to see is rough terrible and everybody like the bride's female like Harper kind of crazy like I just have to imagine that those actors are in a room and also the brother who keeps turning into where we'll so forth. So when he turns into it, he rips of horizontally. For that. Say there's a wolf underneath the skin. Once I rid myself up the skin. Yes, I will be the wolf rip rip rip, and it's crazy gropes. It's disgusting. You know, the actor is just shirtless like. Great more. His performance. He's crazy brides and the brides Dracula keep doing thing where they open their mouth to one another but dot kissing. Does so much grocer kissing. We all agree kissing is gross. For like six months to a year. They had no lines. All they did was scream the others name, right? Or like lick the air. Hey, everybody. 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Five minutes. I just wrote so much screaming. List on the salt. It's a constant. I wrote he doesn't seem to have any specific skills. Literally that goes for his terrible, Abe. He's a hundred thousand of those arrows point right act capex jail. She's running away. It's like psychotic. What does he do? What does he do is ability? He james. Why is he and hell, yeah. Great question. What's his pass? I don't remember ever. We don't care hasn't even seen passionate about killing them. That's what I'm my understanding van Helsing was like, I must kill Dracula. It's in my need to do this. He doesn't seem to be like another day another dollar tell. They go to seven eleven. Okay, fine. You want big at the beginning is like we're gonna send you to translate. You wanna hear accurate is there? And he's like Dracula as if to say like I thought that was like a story. No, wait what? See I read your whole like ethos. See I read it like this. I read it like he's like Dracula didn't kill Dracula, and there's mold feel like this movie. Is he killed majority of the main villains? They were to do a sequel like with the creature from the black grand like you, really. Himself. He calls himself drag you or what he? What did he say drag alluvia? His life is like just he's like I'll tell you about your pass later. Just you're no Julia here. I did write down that the running and fighting talking ratio is about ninety ten. But this is dragged kind introducing himself. Here we go. This your seal better steak. Is ridiculous forty. I'm here. Van Helsing looks shocked to quo-. And meanwhile, this guy's like, hey, gave real what's up? What is it should be remembered? Bye mom exciting. From eastern. Defined home. By the way, his secret identity is actual identity. You don't remember anything? Your name is van hills. Like oh. So it was the same. Draw the line. Nobody found we will call you know, you've always been helping for hundreds of years that was not the drag cool yet clip. Not exactly like he's Jason porn like his mind was in wiped twenty years ago. Right. Exactly. But yet they was when was it. Why do the fuck knows? They never say I committed in the past that he'd never finds out which is the same. Exact storyline for wolverine. Yes. Those areas mind is also memories rather are also erased, and he's old and he's been around for many. Yes, all Jackman must apply. This is in may work. To rice. Few now. So I walked these man's memories to present. Maybe. Maybe can't remember his life. If it came remember? The bad guys plan fails halfway through the movie four no reason like they don't stop it. They just felt like left alone. They could have not showed up ever. And the movie would have just not happen. If feels like an improv scene. It's like, oh, you already said that other stuff we've got to keep on going before we're going to get the blackout though, keep on just the. How about a horse drawn carriage chase. But it's like like really exciting. His very long action scenes. I mean this where we'll just keeps falling into rivers. Cliffs into. Learns. It also is that time of CGI where the actors were bad at looking at the. Oh. Dared of. Bad at driving. They didn't get if it would look real or they were afraid to pretend to hard look. I don't know about this. Woman who falls out of a building and the Carl catches her. And then she's like, what can I do to repay you? And he's like fuck me. She does. Okay. Stephen even better because he goes. She goes can we do that? I thought. Like like, it's like a weird aside whispered, which is yes. So much creep. No, I'm just to fry. Like fryer thought. The next time we see her as when he likes throws over the couch. Four-game prior fuck. It's my favorite robinhood porn movie. The also a good game show where you choose whether to fry food or. I always make fry. Orioles are good me. I don't wanna fuck. It oreo. I can't believe that guy fucked all those potato. That French fried three women. You know, what why that show was canceled? Pretty darn Hooper. Unpredictable. So. That's next. Concedes. Carl also has my favorite line in the movie forget what happened because a lot of people are falling whatever. But charles. Charles falls, ceasing bad. Epi goes must warn somebody. Headed written who yet? Movie was when Beck until it. I've never been to the beautiful Romania, by the way, all the sea. On the plaque see. The opening scenes on the ocean. I think they're gross. They're on a boat. Oh. No, she's not actually say, right? The because the where will falls over her into the water? Sure, that's a lake. Oh. The funniest part. Also is they just keep blow darting Frankenstein. Controversial statement, Frankenstein is the smartest person in the. One hundred Goodstein is the is the re-emitted pieces of seven different men. He has empathy compassion and understanding of what's happening. And he's like, why are you doing this? Go been Helsing here. Also, he is built like a rock them sock robot when he gets to the faith. Only person that trust in. This movie is rate is pretty I like the free stuff. They put him in ice. Big win. They brought him into like a rickety windmill of bibles absence. Everyone can't with fire. And you're like what's going to happen? Like did he like when the windmill crow apps? He just stayed underground for the rest of you. I thought it was like four hundred years. Tell her here. It's been eight months. I did this cave. This bad. Tiny. The boats stack. Them on fire. Fuck. Okay. I don't even really wanna know the answer to this. But why in the beginning of assuming are we seen Cape Beck and sale and her brothers father in that seen them no era meddling putting seen? Oh like. Part of is their father part of the the charge. Yeah. With the cross with her like. Here the brothers like father like what where did I get burned up? So this is like. This is the undertake. Yeah. The the the undertow e. Let's see the father. It doesn't. It's. Okay. Not. So this is up in the this is up in the Frankenstein house crazy. Oh, we haven't even talked about the map that turns into just another Esco. Every Credito whichever saw that which by the way. Is my great computer abilities. What she has the one lone piece, but never realized that that would fit into a big giant map. All you need to do is say a thing out loud, and like becomes animation ice wall. Stupid. Pete dies. Okay. Standard. Great. This opening is not great. Most opening eight this open. I liked it. I was like, oh, this is actually the okay, totally set something until you saw this guy. He looked like he's like a steam punk. Looks like a character in like a goon comic book. Yeah. Fucking steep. Frigging side doctor. So like is that? Z only in a conversation. Conversation. Okay. It doesn't matter. Just so curious because then they find later that the father is all chart. Thank god. So hot this so scary. There's parts of that are so scared yet. It's one of those movies where they're also they play into every trope. They're not content to keep it simple. This vampire has nine million vampire teeth. All right. All right. All right. Then he gets thrown into a fire, but he's sort of like down for a minute and then turned into bat like I don't understand the rules. He's a shadow is well at certain just show his shadow waiting for the firm, Terry. I would imagine I see we got twelve shots where he's this bad thing. Ladies. And then we eat turns. When he turns into the animal, and then he comes back to himself his clothes are back on THAAD. Yeah. So he never he never breaks out of his clothes. Move on struck fashion. Doesn't burn. Apparently, he Jacqueline was going to be full on nude in this movie, but going cloth to his his where will cost which is an odd choice of. He was going to be like, yeah. This is the movie where I'll show my deck. Steven summers. That is crazy ever gone like full-frontal asking for a friend. Jacqueline. That put in the huge huge. I bet you a giant dick also totally he's like eight inches uncut. You know, he's not circumcise. No why. Also his little pilgrim add on. It'll sopping wet pilgrim hat. What is that? On boys. Sir jump Popper had. Just a lot of harmonica. All of a sudden like man housing place music, the savage. The. He the hat is a lot of work in the movie like Dr Jekyll mister Hyde takes the hat. Eat puts on that. He takes that back and puts on Beckett's gets that she puts everyone's putting on this hat, which I feel like they're like, oh, man. Wait for Halloween. We're gonna to love this. Some magical powers or something. But then no feels like every piece of the movie was like orchestrated to be the beginning of a franchise. This hats going to have meeting like the Q scenes are people are going to love that shit like. They're still trying that shit shit. They could've trying. All they want pe-. They think universal thinks you care about monster. Thank you know, fucking dumb. Dumb. At home thinking, I wish I could see a mummy movie right now, we're the Wolfman. I wish I could see what was up with the Wolfman right now. I think about you care a bunch of executives in have never seen the conjuring. Now, we'll scare them know. What's craziest? Universal makes Jason boom. Fucking movie. I still think you want to see a, mommy. It's all because they want to be like Marvel's got a universe. We got a universe to. Stella drag. Van helsing? Psychotic. Public domain. We've got by the way. So this is something that a role found this movie has a lot of one thing. And that is swinging. I do. I'm about to die. Seeing that mass great again makes me remember. That's he made no sense. Dracula was like meet me at the masquerade ball. But then the next great only like. Member masquerade ball, remember van Helsing like somewhere somewhere public where your where your master won't be able to like global butter and into a monster. And then it's just basically bass great ball of fire. Out for a lot of the Royal van housing suck. He's played and outmatched at. There's thing like that. Red letter media thing about like Star Wars fan of minutes describe any of the characters Phantom Menace without using their job or their name. It's like what what's van Helsing without his joggers. Like, he's just he's. There's nothing about that. You can't always nothing. Yeah. He does not seem like women that he's very he's very rough with Kate beckons L. He's he knocks out at one point. Yes. Razor in the face Fraser. We don't go. His first action knock her out just to spray your conscious movie would be better, arguably if it was about Kate back and sale and her brother. Yes, I want to know about the family whose lineage is dedicated to eradicating you kill that would be bad health things address. There had some chemistry. And her brother. No doubt Belkin. Fucking. What what if van Helsing is their dad, and that's what you review for the second star. Why he didn't think that it's like he's like, I'm vampire hunter? I don't know my pass, here's his family vampire hunters. I should probably fuck the girl. I would be like as a jets were related. This. Probably the family. I don't know about a fucker later. That's crazy. Right. Fucking van Helsing bad health. Is two and a half hours. So long this it should they had an end it was ending. Starting to make it a ninety minute movie. He's hubris. How dare you fly? So close to not the sun, the mummy, the mummy come out. Let's see. I wonder like. Yeah. Yes. This on the back of the mummy. Yeah. Who knew Brendan Fraser was the thing that was making that shit work. None till he's gone. You're like, wow. Really? Fake that brought it all the gather totally. Oh, gosh. I would've loved it. If they'd linked these movies up if Brenac frame Q Jack minute arrived in a movie together. That crossover other that Indy moves place. Really? Monster gods. Wait, no, gods of Egypt. Great movie, just kidding. But that is this is like a movie like that. It's a movie where it's like. Then everything happens like, not just one thing. It's it's just nonstop. I wrote at like, I think it was like a half hour Mark that it feels like everyone involved in this movie was hitting the head with a brick. About that time can everyone fly like. Understand why everyone can. Flies. So I'm just realizing we're talking to it's like, so. All right. So. Frankenstein was in Transylvania. But then Dracula was in an ice world that opening knows where no sense, right? That makes again, why fuck up the one thing that we know. Where's Dracula Transylvania no ice world that Amir fucker? Where he is. Nice world like that's nothing about van. But nothing about dragging eat needs to be. And then everything fucking castle was nice. Like, here's the thing in ice. Let's put Frankenstein in ice cube. That was so silly looking. Little head helping. So sad the whole tie-break inside. He's the only person that understands the move. Yeah. At the get me out. Boarded away in the end, right? Gyp awaiting this. Futile. And then he was sort of like. Here's why I don't understand why anyone uses horse carriages pedal boards, and the horses jumping this movie or those horses supernatural Transylvanian horses. Those take her Hort says over broken bridge, the regular what's up in that scene. Meanwhile, Frankenstein still afraid of fire. The fire out. But didn't seem like he knew that he was afraid of fire until he saw that moment. Right. Well, he'd also been around for a while. And the windmill was on fire. His strength made. No sense. What his role in the movie like how did he he would? He was he was the missing. Agreed. He was the battery put the lightning through to charge. The execs which is just out. Oils. Frankenstein's tech babies just blow up on their pop after? They could recreate the every animation of Frankenstein. But without his literal body and his body with dies the science. Creatures that were like baby beings. Beans that were running around palooza things those. Yeah, kill. Don't like watching as drac. Remember when the first of the bride's dies and Dracula it's the upside down griefs, I'm seeing. Wasn't how come she wasn't immortal. And everybody's got her in the heart with a thing with fewer hung. Dipped is is is crossbow in holy water zapped with that she dies. They're all like, oh, no dies. But they take time to really show her pain. Shit. Right. Register then she will this shit, right? Here is straight. I crave he comes out of his ice coffin. And this is the drama. He says I feel no sorrow. Say. So delicate so delicate. We've us we never came out field. Watching. How we talk for this actor must have gone home at night and been like, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know. I his partners like how was worked at. I can. But I'm like walking up walls half of what I'm doing is upside down. My area is crazy like like Bush. If I maybe make a really insane direct. You'll say pull it back, and they never does. He's now, go even. Like winning an Oscar like I think he was like a super villain for all time committed right here this is, but it's like using all the techniques from acting class is neither here nor there though at the time that good does it have a bigger plan, except he wants his children to live, by the way could free. But also why? Why? Get his plant. Here's before throwing us on crying. Three. Do. He says, I have no heart. I feel no love or whatever. 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So apparently, Stephen some Dina Menzel. Seems this EIB. Delta zien. Plead did everyone that her ask her question? Don't make your saying. Right. So Steven summers wanted kickback for this role. But she was doing underworld, but her agent insisted that you get this script, and then she signed on immediately. What about this garbage part made Cape back and say what this so bad? I don't know unless you wanted to have a dress rehearsal for underworld like she's like, really vampire. She's course. Cut her off right, mid boop, boop courses. How do I make this not sexy? There's under course, where she's like hot. There's like the, of course, it where it's hot. And then she's like no cut it off right in the middle. Red fabric where you're like is that a nipple? No, I know that was. Czar? It was so we I agree. I kept hearing is this through what's happened nag? No, this is red fabric and tassels maybe, but it's wet it really looks like I'm a Hollywood professional. Came back and sales professional as well. There's no way she knew they were gonna shoot the first draft of the movie. He wrote this in a weekend. And like he was like a ten year old like voice out be like, and then there's vampires. I feel like day of. Now, you're here, and you're fed you come in go. Go. About it is like the promise for her. Because in success. I could see them being like great this at the beginning of a franchise this world sheet dies. She's not even signing on for the French get good placement. And she dies. Why? Did she sign up? If you are like what if Dina? Adina Menzel telling us if two scripts in front of you underworld and this what both? Done. That one world is terrible. But yet there's like nine sequels replace Cape Beck in style. And it with somebody who looks like and say and then. Yeah. I like always. Wanted to be an action star. I think that's what it what she's just like I'm gonna be in action movies, and she's good. Actually, the good calorie have like she's she seems she can kill empires. I would rather have watched the movie with her make that choice. It's van Helsing. But it's her boom, I'm in she van Helsing. It's a last name. You don't even have to change things. Okay. AM Helsing health. Him housing. And that's just. Fan. Dan hill sake. Yes. Your name your question. Aaron what's what's up with the clouds like the moon is still shining? The sun's still shining, but the clouds come in everything stops. Yeah. That's part of that magic world that. We don't get any insight into right? Always raining. Well, always wet. Doesn't. The course. I also like Transylvania is like the vampires will come out if the clouds go in front of the sun, they'll still come out. But if that's move away a little they hide hide in in. Yeah. That surprised me? I didn't know. I didn't know. Again, though. Pyres? You all seem to come out at night. So stay like indoors or underground at night and live your lives in the day. They just want to shoot the whole movie at night. Yeah. They were like around. Around. To expect. What if we just put wells throughout? Side one way to a well every time a real risky attack. Like, why would you even? Yeah. It's dumb. Well, hopefully, there's enough cloud coverage attack at night. Transylvania are totally ill prepared for this thing that happened. All the time. Have wooden stay. Pacific rim like they have like an infrastructure where it's empires coming kid in your vampire, cages like. Like. All these shooting. Regular town was stupid. They had a box of carrots out in the middle of winter. Good snow covered carrots put that shit inside man. Focused idiots. We'll eat these idiots. Miss them. Yes. You're. Mm Christie going back to the scroll. They the Granddad started. This whole thing sent it to Rome to the game. You know, so much about this movie that I don't. I don't. Ersan foreign. Scroll. Where is this thing? The scroll was the thing that's in the map, and he the animated paint, basically sent them on this quest to be like, well, we have an until we kill him. But the he had the quiche the dole this whole time. Are you Stephen Sahar? I didn't know. By the way, that I go fringe. So this is oh actual history. To you in class is history. Well, what his grandfather with no. Priest father. She's saying that the grandfather was in that study all the time with stare at the map sent bother. So it hold on. Did we ever see this person in the Phil? Yes. Yeah. It's the guy who vowed like we weren't die like to have until van Helsing. It's killed and he then all his lineage died like going to heaven, but he like gave this of the dole to the vet skin and like did it. But he was like I can't kill my own children was something they say, but I'll have then Helsing murder them because he murders. For anybody. Helsing some Berta progeny bird that has turn this map into a door. Who cares? This should have been like the test screening for van Helsing all of us like magic. Wow, we really fucked up grant. I don't I don't remember this character. All right, sir. Your name your question. You have a lot of notes. Let's see just if you I'm Josh. And my thought was so we have the the beluga orcs because that's what they are. So she goes through people. Can you explain them to us there were these terrifying? Creature minions other like bad. They're not funny minions. These is don't like bananas. Exactly. Can sail? She's there to go. Save her brother, and they kind of chirp embark to each other. And she goes, oh, yeah. They're taking my brother to some experiment. Like, how does she know what their languages like speaks minion? The acrobatic also know where everyone else is at all times. How did they find Frankenstein? How do they find each other? Like meet some help. Miles away. The movie there's three sound stages. So they just looked around at the next. There was a point when they go to the ice castle that they're whoever the greets eager says they rebuilt the liberal rotary. And it was the exact same set as the previous. Bill for years. So Universal Studios in LA had this haunted mansion and the haunted mansion is that laboratory that I never realized was it now. I. Ain't yes. When you further off anything on that was like they were like this is like so you'd walk through this haunted mansion it was van Helsing haunted there and now walking yet it's Walking Dead now. But it wasn't warned that I wish. Tata scenes where the budget ran out when they doubled the laboratory. And then when they had that Shrek monster jecklin, high just like the root off cartoon like it was like Canadian TV. Yes, I'm Canadian. No, I agree. What we're just t you. Animated television. We're talking about TV. We go television. So your name your question. My name is Jose going back to the eggs that were born did just out execs. Yes. Yeah. So Frankenstein's monster said that it was that first batch was born from one bride during one birth thing. So meaning that she had all those four thousand that four thousand execs and hurls worth. How you measure? Remember, this is the girl just like starts. She's out those tax. Fag grow this girl. So. She just starts dropping exact talking about like hockey gear bag. Court about straight out of the. I kept picturing like those toys you'd for Plato it it. It was scored it out at different. Like Snoopy snow cone machine. Oh, dude. You're describing makes more sense than this movie actually movie about just one moment that buyer having to four thousand six oh. I would watch his movie where we stop it. After every line we understand where where I'm now like this. Where does it start to lose the thread your name your question? My name's Rachel and the beginning of the movie actually made me mad right off the bat because Frankenstein, it's up in Tori, interact castle. How does the town's people know what he's doing? He's like he's. The grave because growing. That's castle. So they just don't fear vampire. Brackets. No, it's intrinsic Vigna. Yes. Accordance frankenstein. He was in Germany, according to the book say book. Book then housing I did drunk history. Just last week about breaking side. So pretty well. I. Really hit home for you live at breathe. Are you thinking saying I appraise? Your name your questions. My name is grace, so call repeated he says that he's just a for friends don't care. How many people show of hands are British in the audience? Just two quick questions. How many people in the British people were trying to make it celebrate the London podcast? My hired a bunch of scally too. But also like what's up with how many British? Sorry, continue friends. Don't involve into monks. Friars don't evolve into. What do you mean? Like what she said. Like, Jim fry fuck all their lives. They don't be taken vow celibacy. Fires catholic. I think where the same robes, right? This is the limit of my knowledge. L edge. Way to say look in no. Knowledge is so. There. There are so many great facts about this movie. We're talking about Frankenstein before but the actor played Franson Shuler Hensley reprised his role Sherman Hensley. People in this movie. I don't know if you noticed Shuler Hensley reprises role of Frankenstein's monster in the stage adaptation of young Frankenstein. Yeah. And this is an interesting thing to talking about like, while the film isn't Omar to thirty forty universal monster films, the inclusion of Mr Hyde is odd because Mr Hyde is a MGM movie monster what the. Like, they just went to another like, you have the rights to everything why go out of that. I think they didn't get the rights to Hunchback. That's universal. Listen, I know a lot about dubbed it and also this is obviously going to be a franchise. But then they also had a spin off TV series NBC was going to do call Transylvania which would have been about a wild west sheriff who is taken to Europe to battle monsters with an occasional appearance by Hugh Jackman. Kind of job. Howdy frankenstein. Howdy. Screen. That just the position of an old west. It's like, it's just the all the other stupid bullshit that isn't in this movie. You'll horse his jump. How? It's high moon. That's a good name for that. No, they called it Transylvania. So obviously, we had an opinion about this movie. But now it is time for second opinions. But about I'm pump pump pump pump part about I'm pump bottom. Thumb. To see the whole way scheme in somebody else's you may think to movies garbage. But your in for us uprise may think the plot is bunker, you may think the acting wild. But looking through online comments, you'll find people quite beguiled? Second opinions second opinions sorely these shortly. It's crazy that those who are praising our studio. Rotten tomatoes says it's crap. But these people know better than not reclaiming their time now on Amazon prime now seconds up. That was that was really good. Really good. All right. These are five star slowly. But did you give the Emmys? With the worst gift of all could use this structure, sir. Redeemed that. Yes, they're six steps. To get a free mini poster of this tickets. Coterie? Step two sided your crowd club account. If you don't have you make one. Three advocate to the predator x mini poster. There's three steps. We're giving. Fun in which you are essentially spammed. Gift trade, eas-, your identity is stolen. That's not good turn, you despair. There are one thousand three hundred forty one customer reviews are van Helsing average is four point five out of five stars. We're all gonna die the world's gonna end. We're all gonna die. This is the last generation. It's the best. And this one is called something for the whole family. Written by red home. And it starts this. Another home run for Hugh Jackman. A twist on a set of classic tales with a new perspective. Cape Beck and sale shines as she falls puts on a completely unique persona. In fact, I didn't even know it was her. Until I went to. To see you playing Prentiss, Anna. How really gives us Princess you put out two hours. The outfit really gives you a new perspective on her form. Ding. That's cut off and then writes violence. Yes. But for me, and my family violence is easy for us to use as a teaching opportunity. He's teaching opportunity. Don't kill what you would say. Like if anyone ever gives you news e crossbow don't use it. Don't use the it. This one is written by Ellie and her her name is Elly straight up. Dumb blonde. Cool. They're not me. Ellie writes, this was such a great movie me, and my sister went to go see it. And I thought it was going to be scary. But it ended up being the best movie ever exclamation points times like ten it was so awesome. If you don't want one that's not scary. But a little scary that it's right in the middle. It's stubs back that movie ever evasion. Religion. I can't wait till comes out to then I can buy and I loved it. And I hope all the other people that have seen it like it too amazing five stars. She loved it. Did she really was into this one is this is a great one. This is from comic. Sorry, cosmic debris title is own my God. And it goes like this. This is truly the best lightning related movie. First of all there is no way back to the future is not the best light. Lightning. Lightening happens that leads ten times a minute van Helsing land. Lightening lover's dream. One group of characters with and then. Some sort of person who's four their light. Teaches the cold Bubis. There. Oh shit. It looks like stormclouds come in. That would be a six minute bed. Movie. Oh my gosh. Maybe I wonder. Ends a by this movie. Now, don't rent it. I just buy it. You won't regret. It. Oh. Fetish to find out like on a Tinder date. Wanna go to Seattle? Why do you want me to hold this big long? Metal. Why do you have a kite with a set of keys? Puts shirt shopping carts back in the grocery store. Raiding me. This. Final one setting those. Final ones by Gary Licken Waller. And and it it goes like this. Sign from God. Oh, he's this little us all things for my good. This movie gives me hope in the afterlife. I get a wife. Takeaway, God is so good kingdom. Come. Thank you to everyone involved in making this movie your God, send Amen. Talking basically saying what he dies there will be pretty women that came back in Saul. Evan waiting for him. Ask you this question. Does that work? I don't know. That's the worst thing I've ever. Oh, they're so sad. These. I couldn't find love when I would wash road healthy thought to. Themselves aren't gonna die at five love. Hey, when I die then happen for this movie. It turns validating their existence. Will be held. That's like fucked us wiping swiping on the app and then being like, oh, I don't need to do this. When I. Cape in sales going to fund. That is that the takeaway from the movie the takeaway from the movie is. Oh, yeah. Like like. Oh, good. They're good people. Good beautiful people have like I mean, that's not really the takeaway because when they're dead like, she's still fucking brother. Yeah. Also, also enjoy the movie into that final scene. Yeah. The whole time. He's like I'm still going to die alone. And the like never get married. That guy you could describe his religion as van hilson. His the whole van Helsing Hedwig. He dies would he thinks will happen based on van? Yes. I studied the book. Exactly, stephen. Ben, they'll say the all, of course, as I am the New Testament is the movie. Are women who've been on a date where they're like have been told? Oh, well, you know, I believe that like what awaits me van Helsing style. Right. Host more than love. Bake sale style. Now, hold this lightning round. This movie, of course, was written and directed by Steven summers. Well, it's all his fault. Oh. So what else simply what do you think the movie came out in two thousand four what do you think the budget for this movie was forty five million dollars eight five million twenty million dollars like around eighty okay? One hundred and sixty million. Person one hundred and sixty million dollars. Can I ask why everything was? Why? A lot that much money to make this in two thousand and four because I think how many mummy movies had been made this planet the mummies on towards. They thought they were on the precipice of a new thing the opening weekend was fifty one million. Oh, twenty million domestically. Three hundred million worldwide. He came in sixteenth place of all the movies in twenty fourteen. Wait, I'm actually shocked sequel. Yeah. Why not well they million dollars nut trigger sequel? Busy battery viewed but then they'll Toro and Tom Cruise we're gonna rebuild it in two thousand and nine not and reboot van Helsing again Helsing, and then they went to the mummy one of them. The top three films of two thousand and four Shrek gear Toro is attached to make creature from the black lagoon what turned into water he was just few universal shit on my own. I might have this lady fucked, sir. Fiszmann's got a van house. It never seven times. I could watch van Helsing like seven like ten times before I watched shape of water really wouldn't get through it. I kept trying. I would try to like hold my eyes open. I just couldn't do. Drunkenly told gamma delta that if he had showed that monsters, dick. It would have been the best movie of the year. How did you read onto that? He did not seem to agree. He's like, I wouldn't the Oscar some how can you be bad? But then just shrug out of see that fish. Sit about put that in IMD trivia. Tout's films. Shrek two Spiderman two in the passion of the Christ number three and half year. Give since brilliant film. Film film beat movies that we've done in this podcast cat woman in sky, captain, those are the two movies that beat there. But wow, there you go people that is van Helsing guys that we did not talk about that. You guys want to talk about. I mean. The windows the the glass shit they walk through that was stupid. But was that. Yeah. They didn't they weren't affected by gravity or at some point someone said, well, that's not good. Someone also said like that's my job. The again, the the way that they talk in this movie is not right. Carl was hilarious. Yeah. I mean. Well, I feel like they were like just something like lighting the tone here. Like, they're like, can you believe curl laid? I wrote three different times in my notes. This is terrible. I got a magical syringe kind of like when they're like, it's so much magic in the movie, and they're like, there's a cure for his Wolfman, and it's interest of syringe. And as the most obscene is you have to get him while the clock is digging to midnight, but not have. I didn't get that at all. But we're will needs to fight vampire, both and then get cured like they're right. There was a rule it made no sense because he knew enough to fight the vampire, but he didn't know enough to kill the woman that he's been fucking. But again, it doesn't matter because he kills her and the movie counts that as a victory. He kills her. The director tells the audience could job. The price of prize. The man that represents the church is like kills the woman like I did it. But I also saw it as a prequel to hurricane heights because those faces went up in the clouds, and maybe that's the face in the hurricane heights clouds. Based on the hurricane. He's where. Oh, yeah. I can. There is a fucking face that they look up and it's not. It's not a stylistic choice. That same idea for a movie. That's why I haven't watched it. Upset about it. Jason would you recommend watching? I would not people shouldn't watch this movie. It's just bad. It's not fun bad enough to warrant the two and a half hours running time. And it's it's it's it's bad. It's real bad. This movie is bad. Comparison to shape of water. Shape of water is much better. Like like markedly better than this move. So so so much better than this movie movie makes Shaef this shape water like a real good movie. Yes. This movie looks like the shit that shape of water took in order to look real good and fit into a tuck and again. And again, we understand that all opinions subjective. So we know where you stand on shape of water recommend out things. I don't know what happened. It was really long. It wasn't fun or scary. It should have been one of the two and it wasn't either. And the hot people didn't even look good like Hugh Jackman had like a wet pilgrim hat and Nellie Olson, curls maybe liner. And then Kate Beck until the weird boob. Nipple? Course, the red shirt thing was we are shit. Somebody's this looks like nipples, right? One of those things should have worked out, and they didn't end. It was once I agree. Still haven't finished with water. Those. I love monster stuff. And I think if you have two and a half hours, go volunteer or. Good work. Seth no, don't watch it. And even summer's on the street kick him in the fucking shit. Tell. Oh hundred sixty five million dollars fucking dick like, that's that's so much money. Raise. How do you think as a filmmaker how much of that was in the hats? Has eight forty forty two forty three. Good don't hurt Steven summers physically but emotionally berate head. I like I said I saw this after watching hereditary, and it was a real nice pallet. Cleanser for me. So I watched it was a Jonty two hours. Get light to me. Made me like not think of the images that I just seen in where I went to as a parrot. So. But now thinking back on it. I don't have that kind of. Yeah. I would say if you watched toretta Terry throw this. This group one rule, and that's a chaser to the film hereditary. Which is a weird reason to spend a hundred sixty five million dollars to be a chaser for movie come out for fourteen or fifteen years good with about four their time. I would love to somehow we triggered because of our fans watching this movie if we triggered some sort of sequel. I mean, they are this dark universe like once or twice close it down. And it's like no one is interested in seeing. Nobody can ask movie monce notes. Nobody can be scary. Yeah. Make it. And. Always make it kind of like this on Salah because they're dumb ideas. It's because hey. Hey tonight from the nineteen forty. What are the odds? That's gonna hold up there. It's like Frankenstein's fucking three hundred years. Really? You know, what's scary the internet? Yes. That's scary. You know, it's nuts. Scary. A mummy. Kid to wolf me getting home tonight. And being like, oh, great. There's a mummy. If you get killed by a mummy. You would appreciate what it'd be like. All right, even summers. This cost me four thousand dollars. Kinds. The odds though, like it's like a three thousand year old idea. What are the odds that's gonna hold up movies from nineteen Eighty-three? Don't hold up. Oh, yeah. This is from BC. I will just give a big thanks to does all of our research, April Halley, who pose all these amazing amazing. Great clips. And. Everybody. Now, go. But I wanna like talk about the problems. I want to talk about an issue. I can I say also you look. I'm and I'm Charles, and this is the problem with child. The problem with Charles Casey each week. We'll bring us a problem. They're having in their life. What we unpack it reflect on it. And generally talk shit. 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"Why that was cut short why is extended twice in a row. Now it really messes up the beginning. You'll be fucking cocky sucker Tony Digs. I am joined by Thai Schmidt. Boston caller nick more At Fox anchor Pat Is on a very important fiscal. May Pop may pop album. Not sure but it's good for all business baby. That's bad nick. Those classes make you look and I don't WanNa say this Intellectual on call for you. Will you look director thanks? You look like I'm shady. Shady de Pablo. No free ads. You Way who did you say that he looks like I think you look like the hand model from Your Circus. But Nick is anyone who's putting glasses. Looks like David Di Company in Zula? Kevin Costner and Mr Brooks Mr. Yeah I'll take that art spacey and Costner and I was like whoa enough. I did watch twenty one last night. Good mood it's not that great second league can't well what's your what's her name is Donald. She's not but she is that. Hold back twenty one up. That's good I would take that Costner. 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Yeah very racist and various around though did lead Gaber tear losing his leg is the reason bird tears dead. Yes it's true because if he would've just went to John I gotta go. I gotta go within. Why would have been driving slower? He wouldn't sped up not looking at the road with early me if he would have. Went with 'em Cherry Hill to race down. Oh Kevin Osha asked her to get out of there after they won down beat. Kevin O'Shea down Cherry Hill one time Rick Moranis Day. Oh Shit I don't start. What were you saying about Emma? I honestly better would have been a more believable story. If she was topping him off in the front seat and he was one of the game leave and she said No. I mean she's got in that with Gary and then he's still arguing. Yes because he's willing to get along with black people and she's not and she just can't handle it so that's a whole movie. What do you think he was going to do who Gary besides loses legs? He didn't know what he wants to get out of there. And all that racist bullshit now. He's probably going to lake. May With the moon is going to crush peers for sure. I duNNO GARY. Lives in the film room. Someone reminded what's because he was in the hospital for a lot of how because he wasn't in the line where he gets beat stealing. Was the little girl skating. Beat like stole something. Mr. That's hot. She gets on yet. They always talk talk about how he was a liability on out on the edge for that team burned anytime. You can't keep up with them. He couldn't keep up with a day in the end title. It's a modern day like that movie. Obviously good football movie. Yes by crushed. You forget which football movie they did pretty recently. That was fucking tarrant. Iron Gag Greg. It was about like this little who they one hundred something straight games talking about. Hoover High Got Florida. Jim Caviezel is the head coach. Remember what remember the movie that just came out now like a green tea. I three all Americans. Green Marooned is GonNa Bother me. They're blue face. The head coach to keep guessing. I'm I'm trying to. I can't even pull up a name for you. I'll find it now Friday night Friday night off lights or something like that's not what it was called for. Sure I'm just GONNA keep carrying on this conversation as long as Boston. Because he has a question. Thirteen game stance stands tall. There it is. I never even heard of exactly. That's my point like it's very hard to make a good football kate. Bosworth has been in absolutely nothing only one and I don't get it David the Guy Davidson. I'll be Davidson Bingo now you know that. Wasn't Kate Bosworth. That was kate there. It is wait. Yeah you're Kate Bosworth. Did David who the fuck is Pete? David Look along savior of Christian Church question from Isaac Underscore Ramirez Jude Left. Tackle number is a chimeras too. I've got a question for the boys. Movies guys love but is generally seen as bad or corny. That would benefit from a reboot today. Oh man is the original mortal Kombat movie bad and Corny. What does he mean specifically? I cannot go for like the like the intern with the intern. Me One that was just made doesn't mean it's not courtney karate kid is one of my favorite movies of all time and that is you know. A lot of people are not fans of that. But I don't know I don't think he can reboot it. Corny. I'M GONNA GO UNDERWORLD ANGRY. Good movie though we love it is three. Ninjas widely known as one of the greatest movies of all time yes it is okay so Just to remake to make better maybe I think may fantastic four. I could've done with better fantastic four but loved fantastic for I like the original one with Mr Stretch and Jessica Alba Jessica so if they remade that correctly I think America as the human torch. I don't think you're going to go wrong with Adam Sandler. Another grownups movie kick box won't APPS three Andraos to love wrong. I'm pretty sure supposed to be in grownups. Three Yep Shack as the cops added a thousand percent the role that will be playing Barkley as the golf pro. What about face off? How about back to the future but just making it better? Cgi It'd be awesome prize. They haven't tried the Rabuka Future. They will people still watch it. There's clues clues on this list because watch knives out those very good very good. Yeah they're making a sequel. That really see speaking of sequels extraction speech. Which means Tyler rate? I told you he was alive. I've already predicting this story on how he's alive. He fell into that piece of shit. Shit Bangladeshi in river staff. And here's what he had he had he had the whole. There's no way they cannot hear the the saws with through running through a man's body hold on Banzai bills in here he's got some comes from important stuff so there is a moment in the movie to where the the little kid says you uses a metaphor. You don't drown by falling in the you drawn by staying under. So that's the whole thing is like they bring it full so I missed that line. He was very glad I see also thanks Hiebert approved. He can hold his breath for sixteen minutes when he was jumped off that cliff and showed at the bottom the beginning of the movie brain dead after like seven minutes or not him on your neck. What happened was he fell in the water. In one of those June bugs From Anaconda yes I start. I got stuck in the dudes throat basically lodged itself in his so. Stop the bleeding. Jaylo did do a tracheotomy and he will be fine. Thank God filler. Well Yeah He. That's what the original. She's supposed to be the second one with James Caan. James Caan I think is gonNA is probably going to be the bad guy who Jimmy Gone. Oh great castrated. Can You James? Good James For stomas. The whole time. He's talking wouldn't mind. An Anti Connery boot. That's for sure. Yeah you know. What was the last air bender movies? I could've they could've done a few of those. Two seven of those. What about. A roadhouse remain that with Rhonda Rousey. Oh that would be awesome at sarcasm. Scott Tim so it's loud. It's just part of the pod right now. I want to solve the background. I wouldn't mind armageddon to another Armageddon rebooted. No I want to see that worries me. Just because the researchers always asteroids coming back you know that you and I both same crew goes back that stop the second asteroid. The Harry is still up on. Go back go back go back. Same asteroid comes back. Harry Harry stamper is still on the APP store living Yes. He's been nibbling on his arms and legs for the past twenty years. Well they've got blown off in the blast so he's that's how they got cooked as well and it's always been eaten us. Oh How's he been without any arms got up in the blast? I was all the just half of his body. She's got one arm no legs with the with the lack of gravity. It's very easy to get around with one arm. True Movie Jili through J Jili. Geely should never see the light of day in any capacity. Jalen Ben Affleck back at it. What if they had done like a good point break remake? All you see that's like robocop. Robocop WILL BE AWESOME IF THEY. I know which one you're what was the original question movies that I love that. Not everyone does yeah. They'll see I would also well. I'm GonNa hear the big show slam. Someone would be one of the greatest. Actors of our lifetime was in this movie as well as One second I mean this is why so hard copy off getting on me because I can't remember movie. No not rule is he probably can't even hear it on the tape. I assume disagree. The mountain is on our roof drilling holes into the side of the wall. Mean this is absurd I mean the cast was unbelievable. It was Charlie Day each Elba Charlie Hano fucking the you Pacific Rim. Funny you mention that Tony because the second listener question of the day who said in by Ted Mullen fake names. You were a pilot of a yeager from Pacific Ridge. What would you look like and who you're co-pilot well I? If the mind Meld by the way people are GonNa think we that we might melt but we didn't. I actually actually did not thought guys have sent this entire with no did not. That's just how the world works. Sometimes we've never planned that far ahead in our lives. If we did we would definitely want to set it up. You're Classic Investigative Journalism and see what they're doing outside involves getting three flights of stairs. Slight Swear I disagree with you. Three stairs strategies. I wouldn't have asked you if I thought it was all the way up there. I'm pretty sure it is right on the other side on the elevator. That's literally like three feet. That way would you make your guy like your robot. Look like a person you can make it look like John. We'll they all kind of they were all shaped as human. You put John Wigs folk face on the front of the. You know what I'm saying like if I could make it look like Brian Windhorst for instance all fat head of Windy. Up onto onto my massive. I WANNA call him transformers but I forget what yankers. Is that who you would mind Meld with Brian? Yours windhorst is definitely my my shortlist but the objective nail. I just don't know of my year is GonNa look like all the irs. They looked very similar. Look like they looked like megatonne. Pretty much transformers. Well I guess they all look exactly the same now. Whenever you still the toys you gotTa have separate correct crave similar. I mean the you look very different. They're almost like massive halo care. What was the one Gypsy Rider King? Gypsy Queen I don't know to me. When did this come out thoughts? You gotta see I mean two of them so they just made another transformers. That's not what it is. All transformers is way better died still stuck in trade for me. The fucking this and Megan Fox shows doesn't say that about Charleena because I was just thinking in my head about the kingdom you know this would be great. He's good in. That's probably why Charlie is not in it because he wasn't punking. Ask Your unbelievable one. You've never even you've never been seen greenstreet. I have heard of it and I have seen clips. You've never seen. He's probably fantastic. Let me say to never seen guns of anarchy. I'm seen arkie. I have seen seasons of sons vans. I think you're live episodes of sons Eric Fair enough. I watched like the first like so happened to the gentleman's no I mean let me explain I was for seven episodes and then the last episode. I don't know who or what the gentleman are but as you saw the movie you dump them. Oh the gentlemen gentlemen and sons anarchy. The gentleman was good but You're a liar. You're talking lying through your teeth years. Almost the reason you were looking at mcconaghy's outfits wrong. Here's the thing. Hunnam needs a good cast around him or else he doesn't watch which one gentleman yes That's a good Guy Ritchie. Does it does strike you as one of those movies as a bunch of big time actors. And they're just trying money grad similar to snatch. You're right I'll see it on that. Myrtle Guy Ritchie Iot guy. Yeah I will tell you though you'll be dropping so you're next Tuesday for next week after that. What's that to just do the acronym you lift a wheel of cheese? Uconn the lines their few good ones. It is awesome. Isn't that bad. I just way more to fucking hate him. One of the more like all human beings. I'd ever getting. Yeah I know but I can't hate the guy's eight so we just roll through the rest of the questions since we're in them. Oh Yeah my would have. Probably have a T. REX ED. Yeah Nice Yours and mind meld with Jeff. Goldblum Jeff Levine co-pilot very just like a quick synopsis. What is the process of mind melting. So so the the the Eggers are so big to people operating. They don't operate them like you. It and basically it moves off of your brain. It's like it like links to your brain so if you think like okay. It's too big for one human brain so you have to connect like you have to have everything in there. You get their memories their emotions Dan Pacific Rim either. I've seen bits and pieces. I get. That sounds like a really important part to know connor. Well no the reason I said I knew there were two people up there Fox if you remember and the reason I said they co basically like your best friend knows everything about your life. It's ever happened. That'd be very compatible strangers richer or alive you can link it with anymore. No no that's fine going ape Lincoln. Because he's got. I don't know I don't know I'm still thinking Fox. He like optimus prime and I'm leaking. Shell above bad. So you're gonNA live in a crazy man's brain pretty much. They stole this idea from did not. There also has to be a good connection between you because if it's a weak connection the other everything I appreciate how much nick knows about the movie. The movie you love it you gotta go. Someone like Mike Tyson. His fighting any would be good. Glimpse into Mike Tyson's head. Only bad thing in my mind would have to look like the Queen's right hand man days put size. Of course Mike God I want to J. Kangaroo that'd be awesome hopper all that Taylor would be vicious monmouth Crocodile Dundee small smart knife shock checking shocking shocking by the way shark gangs apparently gone very strong so growing. If you want to join it Message Nick Next Asians. I haven't even initiated myself yet. I know I'll tell you what processes so thorough for you. Yeah I watched sharking last night. Shock shocking. Excuse me and I wanted to be a part of it and I will never be a pilot. Don't know what shocking is Grand Theft Auto. And is if you're not familiar with the purple and Green Alien Gang a taking over the world humans here. They are taking over the world and we needed to do about it. So we created shocking. Jocks shocking is currently mobilizing foxy. I love you but I just don't leave that killer instinct. Now I I enjoy watching. It was actually really funny. I'm watching last night. And then connor was telling me how nick was getting rated by the green alien game and that was exhilarating itself got rated. Yeah to jumped into the game scared. I went to meet up with corner and zero in the screen alien pulls up looks at me and hawks of mine over the top of his car right in the Mike Guy Basically caught it just exploded preposterous to quit for the night. Then no us back out there and you'll find that chop the pieces. I couldn't find them. Did you guys kill any greener purples? Yesterday we are growing shackling acquire funds. It was about moving drugs. And guns to yeah. I'm not I'm not about that part. I'm only want to be part of the game. Tony Care Olea. Part is why stop watching? Because they were killing any alley the money I did. Yeah but you said like on your way there. Guess what you can kill a couple pedestrians. If you like all right maybe shake them down about sixty bucks there. You Got Eighty Bucks here. I mean you can do though because they get yelled at by them because then we have fucking star power on us. The sharks are always hungry. Oh we're looking for the next victim swim like I said. Call me when you're rich and you don't need to build up anymore rich and I just walk in and then you throw a bazooka. I've got a motorcycle club. Actually I want one of you guys to walk into my room where I am in g tae and say did you come with me. Gay. That's what we're doing. And then we. Who ARE WE GONNA call this does? Yeah which eventually always gonNA shocking okay and that was a shocking lettuce Since we do the rest of the questions or Yeager I'm going to did it. I'm going to be partnered with Marshawn lynch okay. Obviously we're going to run through motherfuckers faces and after further review it doesn't fact like windhorst. Brian yeager smart. Absolutely think about it. That running at you know go. Three person right in those years was very big. I'm GonNa go Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker Tomorrow Pervert Combo Stop for some Mushoo Bills Radio. It's GonNa go full Sammer Irate and you have like a wraparound headband. Everything then you have to Meld with. I probably say Jackie Chan is one kid because he does. He's already short. Jackie Chan on the off days. Totally gone is that the likeliest. Ooh I like legless guys legs on less like loss races. All come on. You can't have Orlando Bloom innate. And he's always the Bitch. I know I've ever gone to. Who WanNa Sword? Does he get a bit Paris before Gillies. Parts of the Caribbean kind of a bit Jeff Son who's bootstrap Bill Turner? Jack Sparrow into speaking of who people we haven't seen in a while. Where's she been cure off? She she does. She's black. She's English right a lot of English film and stuff like she is English. She was she in the favorite in the favourite was just up with a you know it's just up for best picture. I think she was in there. I guess here I can't wait to see if this is right or not. Because she looks like one of those faces but she also isn't Elizabeth and that's probably why you're out of it. We're GONNA I mean we're on. It can't find her name on here there. It is found it a movie coming up in two thousand twenty misbehavior that got pushback city. Now Mo's like any movies from two thousand eighteen. Twenty nineteen twenty seventeen pirates of the Caribbean nutcracker in two thousand eighteen but Bush's models perfume commercial senior. Oh yes suave is it. I mean it doesn't matter because they're still raking from pirates of the Caribbean Dizzy Dizzy. Bottom our it should be fine. Orlando still with a caterer. They're only kid right. Yeah she was fucking dumping them out on vacation she does. Why saw his Naked Donald Surfing with a twenty four inch Dong Bill Water Python King Arthur? That movie sucked. Who who have not again. She is now the Guy Choosing the imitation game but that was like five years. Clavo shitty King Arthur. You shut up respect. I do like to see. Do you have other questions Yeah Yeah I don't know if read I fucking who is more truthful. Honest Abraham Lincoln or secure zips a a a curious next question. I'm curious hips for sure. Bill here. You go buddy welcome chop this shit down like Sanmar. I don't think that she have ever been slaughtered for being so right. You're right bom hips. Don't lie bitch do push this same question twice. What you guys favorite pop tart. What do you think is the best pop? Turn so my favorite boxer. I'm actually massive strawberry pop talking really law. Strawberry Pot on traditional classic Brown. Cinnamon sugar go are also delicious. I liked the wildberry really. I see I was always a the double chocolate like chocolate or smallest kid asks. Moore's I'm not even sure if thirty seconds way too long you burn off all would definitely destroyed the roof of your mouth. I don't think I've ever had a fruit. One to be honest really did have a lot of Cinemas Strawberry Cherries. Good Pretzel Pretzel. Pop tart never had a problem. Never had sherry is really. What's the are filled with that dude? Guess so is it just like a big Old Pretzel. Ironist chocolate and go. Yeah I miss. I won't the Toaster tutors with the juice. Get those those out time for sure. There's so many loves them foxy. I could tell that you have enough. Well you're not a fat stooge like me so you don't have the issue at the crab you don't have the issue where you get to the end and you have like two or three toaster. Stroz left and no fucking icing packets. Because on the other facts they give you a planning one. I respect the wall while the toaster. Strudel is in the microwave. It is hard not to just back to put some icing in the mouth. Fuck this is your second another. Mom's going to buy some more strudel's next we'll just continue the cycle for a while. They should give you two times many should be. What is that they know? What sputtering that they're not Gonna. They're show strudel for they still make older. Yeah that flaky buttery crust. The plane strewed must be terrible without the threat away. Those weren't eating those sorts. Thrown away about this cupcake of. Actually you know you could do for future if this happens kids in the future a little throw little Allah mode on top of that. If you don't have any icing left get idea. Yeah toaster strudel a modem like the maybe even some create. We solve the world's problems maybe so now usually we can put all the stuff on the first one and then all the rest of ice cream. That's too much. I think being breck one and a half packet is I. I'm surprised on the side. Dicing set shed more packs us. Put Milk in your Milkman. Is Making a Milcho milk? I've seen people do. Does that mean ice cream. Like if you're making nick no ice cream scoops in there right now. It's quite good. Milkshake bowl milkshakes. Lert I do. I do that when I put ice cream. And do a blender or something. I would like to big big milkshake. Kick Ball cereal. Yes fucking like. How much cinnamon toast gradulate cereal with a message like well? There's different different sizes measuring one actual cup okay. One Cup is a lot of a lot about that. That's that full thing right there. That's why just about that much. It depends on what you got. How much ice cream malt shakes milkshakes? I don't know to be honest. I don't either. I don't know one causes more. That's all I know. I think which costs Gigolo usually cost more is is a forty right mulched carbonated. I believe what was Malt Liquor? Bill you worked at McDonalds McDonalds and self malts checks same bullshit. Malt Candy isn't it or malt chocolate chocolate. Yeah there you go foxy so it's like mall type chocolate so it. It costs more as a mall. Chocolate shake a milk shake is a glass of blended ice cream with milk and other mix ins with fix of Malt or Maltin. Milkshake especially mouse eight. That includes the addition of malted. Milk powder told you. Yeah so what it's for. That is what McDonald's does so you're full shy right. It's a liquid mixed. He put in the ice cream maker. It's a it's a bag of. Is that why? It's always broken. A millstone flag team should back there. Peanut big fake news as a mill. Stupid ass chic-. If you were to take your bag amounted I'm gonNA fucking keg milk. I'm not a bag. A bag of milk. It's been sitting out in the sun for a few weeks curdling chunk that every once last longer bed counting backwards from one hundred or singing. Mary had a little lamb. Doesn't always work. The folks at Roman an online men's health company changing the game with Roman swipes. 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You can only pick one of these actors movies to keep the rest. There's album screen. There's no punctuation. You could only pick one of these actors movies to keep the rest. The rest are gone forever. You can only pick one of these actors movies to keep. The rest are gone forever. I go there a common there Tom. Hanks Tom Hanks Denzel. Tom Cruise Samuel Christian Bale Matt Damon Mark Wahlberg Johnny Depp. Is there any more now? Leo Taking I mean you might have to lean Samuel. Because he's in three hundred of them. I don't know if it's recency or just because we're talking about rounders but I don't think I can Matt Damon. I think I'm KIEF. I can't shudder. Islander gangs in New York for the two hundred time on a Sunday afternoon. I'm quite upset with mark. Wahlberg three throwback shit. I'm thinking good will hunting. I can just watch that movie over and over again. I might rushton bail. Even though this guy spelled his name wrong in the tweet why might be? Walberg too if you take Leo. Does that. Mean that Samuel L. Gone from Django. No no no no. That's just that's just a bonus double bonus you get to watch any movie that Lia's just like four Ferrari. I still get to watch for verse. Ferrari yeah because Damon's it Damon's in it but fails to. This is Tom but as far as people who put out entertaining movies. I have a hard time. Nocco Walberg me too. I think I mean already seen shooter close to eight hundred times. I'm losing Walberg. Damian and Damian Overall Bridgeton Boston. There's a remake. They still get by the way as a remake that Anita's twister for your Walberg in twister no goodwill rounders. He's great nine dignam digging the Martian. You'd still go and you're still pushing Damon to David. I'm I'm trying to get bill on it at least I'm wicked smart. Leo's up. I mean all these people have like staff question. I think don't do hard to answer. I think the best range of movies would be Leo. Yeah just because like you go you can go from Wall Street and then you can go to the resident and sure up. As far as to recently shudder shudder islands to help every type of movie. Oh yeah because everyone. These movies that they're in is joining one was can I pick Kevin Bacon? He's an almost every movie. I know Emma Nicholas Cage. You just want to rumours all. I didn't do an entire senior project on the five. I'd go REBA. Mcentire probably ask. I want twist twister really bad. Did the other question. It's too late you can just do it now. Also Bill Paxon is dead. Why said play the new bill who would be the best bill? Paxton cast miles teller. No Miles Teller Mouth. Tyler would play a great. Jonas Miller knew he'd be in your fucking he'd be. Jonas Miller is very hateful. Honam is fucking bill. Paxton to Charlie. Maybe driving the van in the back where Phillips more often New Rabbit. Okay Rain Dance. That was Philip Seymour. Hoffman wasn't in Cam from in there yet. It was great cast. Yeah the shitty brother in a succession. John I never liked Joe. Gel Much schick. Helen Hunt and Helen yet. I never liked her anything. I don't think not disagreeing there. She's all right. Let get any district. I don't even know her work. I'm not kidding defender of Helen Hunt. So I really have no reason to. I can't put her face right now. To the movie I know has tornadoes and I know the movie and it's not helping me see who she was she was goes. She was a heart she was also the girl a drastic park. Oh okay okay I got her she dern I'd say wait wait Reba next question I really want to know who the guy in the though Mohammed Ali John. Horner told your vitamins joint blunt Bongo Exodus. Big Cartridge Guy Never Smoked Belson on this question for these. These questions are left over from when we did like the twenty-five questions three weeks ago or May Walk Cartridge. I'm cartridge it's gotTa be a fresh bean back with something with tobacco in it. I don't care lifts. Oh yeah but I mean if just talking about the use use of like whether it's a blunt and join or you know what I'm saying. Yeah what tobacco fucking calcium crusher modified. Gal Tell you what time we'll send you for a fucking ride wave did not have to be a bubbler foxy. We're always joint guys logged having a nice joint on the golf course. Jim Being one time. I don't know if I've told the story on here. We were in college. It was my sophomore year. We didn't have any papers or anything left in The only paper we had was Yeah I did tell a story no no. I know where you're going because I've been there as well. What does it say you say I? It was the Bible Dictionary paper because but every room at Duquesne which was a Catholic school had a Bible so didn't work a Catholic student. Who Cares right? He's river page. That we burn way too fast. Now no this laminated the same type of paper really. Yeah and dictionary defending our defense. We used one of the plane papers pages at the front so words content. Oh so you should have smoked good page at the no any of the pages so I could have been doing. Anything was all the questions. That's that was from the Super Bowl right now. Speaking of shows and stuff did you watch the trailer for space source yes. I'm pretty excited. Actually I'm very good. Cast Great Cast Malkovich. All in Caroused the Front Laura dern issue no macadear no who is lured during them. Thinking of in the it'd be as I do not remember much She always wore a tracksuit in that. One show drought. No Jane Lynch Jane Lynch thank you. Kujo isn't as well. Who Else Steal Them? Roberts Birds No. It's a it's a loaded cast. I'm pretty psyched about it. Actually that actually looks. Daniels Noah Emmerich anything anything with good. It's also they can let f bombs to which nice of welcome. Change Steve. Caro- faulk you. We didn't get any of that with the office. I think that's why. Hopefully you were mentioning like it doesn't mean that much if it's produced by like what does that really mean if it's produced by the guys who made the office like like those guys are involved but like anytime you. They use that especially for something like this like they're they just want people to assume that it's going to be like the office like you can already tell from the trailer that it's really nothing like the gets on a mockumentary. I think it's more of a political satire discretion now that's produced by. We'll exactly nothing like like semi. I'm sure they could give their two cents. A lot of situations. Those guys worked for like like their studio like they're putting up the money to produce like. Yeah they're probably still involved in the creative process but I don't think it's going to be like the opposite all more so it's just like they believe in the fact that Steve Carell he's going to put on it because like that captured and remind you of Michael Scott et Al. I mean it's not the same. It's not anywhere near the same kid. Just like the raiders show or something and then when they go to when they want it to be very different from what it. Yeah exactly exactly. Are they still coming out with that office? Like working from home style show is supposed to be like exactly related to the office really but people that were like working from home because the quarantine. I hope because that's a quick turnaround and we'll be disaster. Yeah Yeah I mean there are. There is going to be stuff from this. I think me and foxy heard some guy singing about the quarantine this weekend. Who was like on some We're one of those spotify. Playlist shuffles music. Oh yeah there's going to be shows and stuff like that that are created after this is over but quite a few. I mean every musician right now is probably writing every single hospital in nine one one show right now is creating an episode after this for for a pandemic type thing though cal fire up so they should have done it before we would have been more cargo fire. I that sucks. There's not a Franklin and bash. That's GONNA come out would be Aweso take a murder. I did Adela who for the first time? You WanNA use my log in. It's free for thirty days. I have no. I did it for Rick. And morty everything's free for thirty days no commercials Paul. Oh okay yeah who correct so. It's always sunny. Yes it is all the stuff I pay for. Hulu and almost never open it can also paying for. Hbo and pain it through cable. Just rid of me I need to I. I don't know the modern world just never you know fuck it. I got everything else. Need a fire. Stick well the fire get. You could cancel all of those things and get it for free. He's my fire. Stick TO WATCH SCUMBAG Move Sony. So is charging twelve dollars for every single. Yeah that's true but a lot of times like I'm paying for through my cable. Anyway you know true and I can't trust the Goddamn Internet all the time you're right now get your thousand is. There's a better algorithm there on the Internet but that stuff is yeah but I I got cable lights cable but like all the like Hulu Netflix. All those shows on the first out here. That's true but that's just another extra leap inbound that I do not WanNa make because I got I gotta get jail broken. And what's that phone? It takes ten minutes. Youtube video walks. You right through no. That's just another step with the quarantine. How how long is it gonNA take to get a fire stick? I say an abundance him job your TV see. I don't want to do talking expensive toys award. Bob Don't do that. Don't do that. Never do you. Should definitely fucking speaking of Space Force phone on someone? Explain to me. Fucking Starlink startling. Did you see the lawns? Thank you launch thing where he set up a of those satellites or whatever. I'm John I'm pretty sure it's to put a bio dome around the earth. I'm pretty sure all it's an Internet service. And it's about time if that's what he's doing now it's definitely a link. Internet seeks to solve a rural and urban areas divide and it looks promising. Estimate costs eighty dollars a month. Igt Space Internet yet. Because that's going to be reliable. I think he was trying to shoot Internet to everywhere from satellites Earth defense system and it just gets to a force field around the Earth. Just named his kid. Emc squared so. I figured we'd trying to fuck protected. That's not if he can leave it at any time. He wants Astro. He's not leaving or I think he. Here's here's my that's what I'm saying. He just sold over his houses. He owns gene. Wilder House says listed for like nine million in Beverly Hills out by coming toward you. Gene Wilder had to go onto None by that House came at the end of Wonka. Gene Wilder hated people confused Gene Wilder and Gene Simmons. Talking Walk here baby go. He sold all of us out. Says he's taken Tesla Stock He launched the Starlink to protect the earth. Because he knows something's coming finished protecting his child. And he's all the underground railroad so he can get on those when the aliens come what is going on. What is left Antonio Twenty? It is only getting crazier here people. He's murder Hornets to. Oh yeah by the way We didn't talk about this last show because we didn't see it last show. The video of the murder Hornet murdering a mouse. A full grown mouse taking it. See I watch one but I have seen and we talk show yesterday the bees and how they defend and kill against the Margaret watched that it's going to restore a lot of faith but there's know it didn't didn't for me I also can't vibrate my body quick enough to fuck and had no chance but the bees will save you. They will kill them. I don't know I do not have a good upstanding relationship with the bees. The thing about the the Hornets and how they do die like the bees have a great strategy like ler them into the hive and then pounce on them and green and Purple Aliens. It is but if I mean if four of those murder Hornets Rolling Together. I mean I take this video and then tell me how you're feeling about these Dagenham or telling you a lot of faith rear naked choke along at one of those in the pub started this thing this was a scrappy. Mass came in guns ablaze. Wayans people didn't see that happening to know. A lot of people are on the mouse. Also on. Tom Cruise wants to make a movie in space. Love she is using Eline right. Nick he wants to. He wants to use link with the lawn and uses Spacex program and get up there and film everything so I'm all for actually have moving space man that would be. I think he was flying an f fourteen during top gun and it was like in the middle of it was like I need to shoot movie right there. Yeah like he was so close space and he must have thought to like. Look if we're doing this year. Well I mean if we if we can just do the same exact thing but in lawns rocket. What's the difference? We'll probably knew that cameron was filming one at the bottom of the ocean so he needed to do on spacer very way for Tom Cruise to go out because he will he will die. When does this but you know he'll go out doing what he loved. Definitely tried to do his own. Stunts in space and probably drift off into fucking oblivious. Strap himself one of these spacex rockets. Just this this might be for the next move Gus Malzahn flipping from the red bull rocket. Allred's football coach out of the atmosphere pep rally before Miss Cain town who was Felix. Baumgartner close as close as you can get as close as you can get. Oh for rebooted movie honey. I shrunk the kids just thought of it. Technology Good Movie. House a scary movie as I'm watching it then. Red Firing home a long neck. What oh the B.'s Attacking the horn the killer. I mean yeah are six million of them attacking it yet. But they like strategically learn. How many of didn't they didn't show up but they wait. Until the whole actually was guy comes into the nest and one B saunters up to it and it grabs it and tries to chop they dive on pile. Yeah it's pretty electric one of second half the saunter over the being the bees man so what if like a thousand of these? Hornets come up. That's not even a thousand. They roll up with ten guys and there are millions of five hundred. And what else do I have here? Um Wendy's isn't selling meat anymore. So no that's weird because because there's a meat sort so they're not they literally all sounds chicken now. I feel like this faulk and up here. I'm ready and has been selling meat for years state sticks. I don't think I've ever gotten a right order. I will miss the smell of a nice yet. There's no beef though right now. One in five. Wendy's is out of beefy role in order to save your life my friend. I might need to this week. Only almost got Wendy's this past weekend where you're going to have to go with a spicy chicken I want to be K- kind of stinks. It under yeah I know what was it. A bad location. No it was very nice. Location in hardtop really. Yeah usually deliver. And that's we. It's free tire. I Love Love Burke from Beka. Yeah I got a double they call it a double cheeseburger Bacon. I mean the naming was preposterous. But I got to those. We sure this wasn't a fake Bergen. Nick and I had to deal with us at one point. This is a very real burger king so I got to those. That didn't get any. I got some fries. The fries were fucking tear. They have aggressed tossed a good spicy. Chicken is good. Sandwich The rodeo throw the fries all the fries on the bird because they I am a sucker for the original chicken sandwich be cast and I know it's trash. I know it's garbage but I'll eat it every time. Nick and Nick and I were we lived. There was this fast food place and it was not a Burger King. It wasn't Burger King. And they lost the Right Deanery. They just kept up all the signs and had all the rappers and stuff still in just kept operating as Burger King respect until they ran out of the rappers and stuff like that and we started noticing that it was just being wrapped in plain white paper foil and Brown bags. I don't I don't hate that. So they were just selling that thing until they were out of every single and much longer. They already run out like they were handing you your order in Brown paper bags and it was wasn't your order your order everything food from elsewhere and somehow they got it back and they brought it up great title now more than ever. 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Yes and then someone turned him. Some snitch turned him in just to say we did. They keep all the money though manager. That was keeping the store open. Sure why not to pay them place. Well if they got all that stuff from Burger King no just I think whenever you it was probably a bankruptcy filing or something yeah yeah L. CEO anybody anything. Be Really Weird for a company to invest a lot of money in somewhere in the not request a lot of quitting it back. Wouldn't it would you go to a place that Oh you're talk would you? Would you go to a place off major Like fast replaces all combined now? I don't even fuck with if it's not cinnamon toast crunch if it's ethics crunch all all normal once on like McDonald's combine like there's KFC Taco Bell is that what you're talking about but all of them together or you could order. Hold on whether it be the best restaurant in the world. There's a there's a A waste on the highway the wait. This is stop. These things are. There's a stop in Pennsylvania that is that what it's called no as I thought you were just describing knowing that's one between like Iowa noise called the has ever won in Pennsylvania that has everything in there you walk in and it's just heaven for fast food lovers. Yeah I'm a big Fan of that Donald Fries and then I get it. I do. Get a flame. Grope Burger for B. K. from KFC quarter pounder with cheese is the best. But I think overall the flame growth is the move has really good You can get right now. Apparently so yeah. Wendy's how come everybody else does stores meet. And then make much sense to these locations. Where pat guests dave daughter something to do with it? Joe Thomas do because it's a little awkward because the side does not look like her didn't WanNA show her. They made the store before show. You're talking about the actual yeah. She was insecure shells. I believe it's still wendy. Probably not based on my knee. Ostro Wendy You know Miami subs stillness places Joe. Wendy's replace that says I know spiders thought about it as well. I don't know if you guys had Miami subs in your life actually off. There's one down the keys I saw it. It was an island over from the island. I was on. I go now I would have swim too. I thought about it. I those Cajun fries got. What do they do? They sell a bunch of drugs how they go. It wasn't fast food. It was Great Food Service Fast. Bingo easy pill connor. I was GonNa say does kind of look like me. Will you pull up the Miami subs on the on your computer? 'cause I don't know how it went out of business. It had to be a front for some drug lord and then they were there like the Spicy Cajun fries a little bit of arrests or something. They had to do some tax fraud. I don't know how now not that also looks good due to the top or do they actually store picture to operate as you could see in the window. Oh My fucking stakes upswings. I saw it on. Another island overlooks electric. When I was in I saw one island over I fucking those is that Miami subs give me the Benach. My Dad. My Dad Got Gyros from there. They had a vast array of things to order from this game and it was walkable to. He's very walking house. Fair speaking of fat fucks the UK What did they Rodri- INDIKA Roger causing a shell from UK? He doesn't deserve that. Well no no no. I'm not saying all of the. Uk's fat folks guy from Estonia does you don't put them through we. Yeah he actually emailed me morning to. Yeah I put him through and then I don't think he realized that I was putting him on hold. I don't know how email and then I was like all right. I'm GonNa tell you on hold and then you just when you put them on hold immediately hangs up hangs up if I saw I put it. In all caps some of the when it's from different countries I try and put it in all caps. You'll see say Nah. Hang up on them. Yeah Real Yeah so. Some of those people have been filtered through that. Make It on talking. I know some of our other guy the guy today from Texas who did like the skit asgard. It's either GonNa be good or terrible. And he was like yeah no Like I got it. I'll do my best. Yeah well if they're going to bring it like if they're going to try to at least do something different like by all means but just. Don't fucking stink. I wish I December still to go crickets. Oh yes yeah. That'd be awesome. What I was saying was that U K's obese residents are going to be forced to stay home. Once the lockdown ends. Jesus just in case they'll die yes always has been going on the whole damn. This is good it. It stopped for a good forty. Five minutes isn't always something. It's always something isn't it? Well I think like a lot of places there They decided to improve while the rest of the building was shut down. But guess what we're still working. Essential Business Yeah. Following all the guidelines against people working Probably work kind of against them by working workers against working in. We'RE WORKERS AGAINST THEM WORKING. So it's a little tough stand on especially where they have a hacksaw. They have the earlier. I believe some of them was stuck in the elevator and they had to cut them out through the metal walls of this building. Incorrect of the elevator. That is by believe right on the other side of that wall. She's one of the Steel Cage L. BEARS AGO. I do have my eye on another building. We IN AFRAID TO LEAVE I. I what anybody does anything about the eye to pick up and leave even if it isn't a financially sound decision. They won't be sown into other buildings on top of that building. They won't have a roof deck up. We're the fucking. Oh we probably should open a bar on the roof some licenses. We have to get a job there because there's no concert there's not one rooftop are oh there's only one rooftop are in this entire city and it blows my fucking mind in also makes me mad. That says a lot doesn't it? Yeah Yup all of a sudden that incredibly high price tags all of a sudden looking smaller a rooftop concert maybe put a fucking subs join in there as well Fox are rooftop sir sandwich bars in Chicago like there is a guy known Boston Pittsburgh for some reason there's no rooftop or you feel like you're cool ever feel great looking down on people wind in your hair they used to have you still thanks a high buildings around here though now is not a high that's the B. C. Illinois just one that'd be stories even agree sayings from that building on the roof you'll be able to see the whole entire city. I don't appreciate your fair to towards this very different boards. Nice but I'm campaigning. Fourth offbeat either. I don't think it's going to be a part of our business. String Downtown Rooftop Concert. Venue now have string lights all Christmas. The white ones classier allergist in-house to put them in a sally McAfee. When to work on their house? I went over there the other day. They had a little birthday. Cookout was being Sam. My parents Jay and lady was nice little gathering over their salaries about those Christmas lights. All throughout the entire house no lays on. It's a good setup lights. Get judge too much I think. Great put him everywhere my entire backyard. Ism I'll it's good for a backyard. Oasis how's this show produced? There's one thing we have to do. We haven't done yet is commemorated the Mexican culture because yesterday was singled the mile. Should I thought maybe we go if we go one by one and say what we love about Mexico and then until if you can't go any farther you stop and you lose okay all right. I'll start okay. I love case for you even tossed chicken and they're great. I mean now. We're playing the game. I said this earlier say it again. They won in the grilled cheese department. We had grow cheese. It was good and even with Texas toast. It's delicious. You put their great but I believe the case. It is a better girl cheese than the American grow cheese shop to Mexico. I love the Mexican flag. I mean Green White and reddish beautiful. What what's in the middle? Nice little amble. What is the name of? I mean everyone knows as me. What's in the emblem I? I'll tell you that. The God birds birds mouth and what is the color schemes at Green White Red Green White Red Red White Green? I know I didn't. I led with green. What's in the mouth of the Eagle? Look I ask. This is not a test or a quiz what we love about Mexico. I was not asked for what was in the gallery. And then it's an with a snake in its. I let you know what you're listening to on a while like Mexico even more because they don't like snakes over there to do you. Just use to Nick Riviera. Am I have great? Oh resort vacation. They're amazing yeah. I was GONNA say all inclusive but all inclusive are just in general Mexican all inclusive off the best. Okay the absolute best. So he took every resort. Next goes my. You're you like. Yes smart. Yeah that's smart. I'M NOT GONNA pick one January because they're all great. I was the only one I've been to so which one wins Riviera foxy for Taco La Though Star Mexico. I'M GONNA go with the sausage enchilada okay paddy said cases per se different what jumps on new Taco Bell along long bill crunch like open bill my big survey guy even though apparently the beer corona here even though the beard growing up apparently started in Puerto Rico and was just kind of like really stolen became make on kice up. I'll tell you what I president. There's a shot you put it into a corona makes it tastes like you put a Corona Dominican is why I guess. This is poor re. There's a shot makes it taste free. Public are yeah. I didn't mean that way. There's a shot you could put a corona tastes and pebbles all. I've actually had this so good. That's the best crowd as I've ever had like forty of them. Probably two days is it What's the wait lacouer? I think you put I know they do. A lot is when you go to these resorts for breakfast. They give you a beer with like a little bit of. I WANNA say it's tomato juice now motto Kamado does not. This is corona with Bakari Lima. Yet it is swear tastes just like pretty is what the reviewers eight is. Show good really. Oh that's right that iceberg ice beer. Whatever off Margarita half beer those are my two go to's and resorts or strawberry March. That's A. I'm doing that next time I go on. Yeah it's worth it. Yeah mistake they mistakenly combined him as. Wow some trunks. I think some true think they take. They probably started with the lime in there. Because you know I'm crying and they were like pretty good one. What limit taste like law? Maybe I'll tell you what one way trip to blackout beers Mexican boilermaker as a Mexican national coach Vincent. They'll bosquet mustache does big fan ACA anything. You like troppo honestly polls cartels in general despicable. But if you at his business acumen. Yeah Somebody Chautauqua. Kara Frida Kahlo my favorite Patriot easily. Thank you drowning contact. I can't even see shit right now. Either Thick Deniro now school words for money. Money's underground tunnels all well same ballpark for him. Well trump so. Yeah Saturday Kim said No. I don't know how much we're just GONNA give JOPPA. What did you say conor same as Cancun goes to resort? That actually actually Riviera Maya but all the way we can mention all the cities part of our game a game. That was kind of going to be a part of it. My next one's GonNa be Tijuana for sure. Want a much different than true. I was actually not that all right. Well then I love football in Mexico City because the ball goes foreign. Hi Matt's well Chips and salsa free chips and Salsa makes it back to me. I just go for chips and salsa. We've it's one of the wonders of the World Mayan Temple. There we go big billy. Just skip because he doesn't have an answer. It was called been great. I don't think you pronounce correctly but you get it. It's okay it is mind. Hey the minds kit. Some serious as teaching it. What's IT called two words? They sacrifice people right on animals. Do you ever see where the kicked ahead down? The pyramid came from for the brand apocalypse. Bucket fucking Antonio banderas great choice fuck some Guacamole from Mexico Carter. I mean people are always talking about the Mayan Empire but what about the Aztecs team? I play for two all about the pull locations in Mexico just looked it up right before I hate your phone. No I thought to myself as text. Let me see if it's in Mexico. Law GonNA leave the Knicks villains outs. I hate that guy. Been Antonio. Banderas is from Spain. Is Billy skipped a perfect time fucking build? He just came back back. After child loses to be ashamed of no one mentioned Salma Hayek dump them out so just want to get that in there currently looking up. What is the Mind Temple? Cup was in a movie called the Mexican for Chris. Brad Pitt whose get DESPERADO. His mother would have been right answer. Yeah Guess Louis Guzman more people know Bandera. One person home a little bit to the you you. You've heard bad. There's no jury spinach. I knew he was not Mexican. We even we even responded to Miami all the way to nick. I was safe when Wednesday Wednesday show. A false at the poppy and my on instagram twitter keeps sending in your questions Store UP AT MACRO SHOWED DOT COM. Youtube Live Daily. Dot Com for slash Padma. Show my anything by the way. If you're expecting clips from the POD end up on the youtube so am I. Stop fucking tweet. Me Is one hundred percent true. I didn't want to keep another one. Margaritas the rock. Dj Listen Weirdos. That is GONNA start putting up on youtube though allowed. What this is literally been talked about five hundred time I thought was the place now live on twitch and then the clips are going to go on you just not the full show if whereas you guys get a little out of control. Sometimes we can't just have something correct correct. If we're being honest I thought the Youtube clips would from this show would drag down our youtube average but we talk to own. It doesn't talk to remember it. I said doesn't matter. Lives are coming there we go. Hey Hey big day bill. Can you another five hours out into the workday? Ought intern who it company doesn't it? Yeah Canadian company. We're seeing here soon. Tony do not lead people straight. Shed the messaging. We have been put on a strong vs. We talked to the Border Patrol. Basically I'm not sure if dumpy knows this but we're GONNA have to pay what fucking. Leonardo DiCaprio's was yearly for his movies the country. It's a little bit. I'll be the quarantine really slowed things down dead loose. Lots of things done. But we can't get the back here. Ortiz great that were part of the tunnels though that how about Chabot just walked out of this fucking prison hop on a motorcycle enrolling. Fuck out underneath the jail best. That's legendary spoke to segue way pace back and forth fucking. Did you get to Narcos Mexico? Season to where troppo where he came up with the I- IDEA. Fred Tunnels No. Oh Yeah Big Part I. He was not the boss always while he had to rise through the ranks. Of course I respect because he came from the bottom in dealt with a lot he also he was not a trust fund Lucky Sperm Club guy always not know by the way Jason was Mama Airport. Yeah work from the bottom. Go Top until tell you make a good drug lord run You know you don't just get born into the top of the Drug Lord Pyramid now. No and I thought you might like royalty. Yes like a Skit flexes on. What'S THE WORD. We're arguing on oligarchy monarchy monarchy. What's an oligarchy? It's a string of islands? Good breadsticks all. You need soup and salad too very long answers given with very straight faces and I can respect that I cannot think oh it's a archipelago was the islands. There it is right oligarchy. Have something to do with a King family. I'm pretty sure it's when it's like that. But it's only the male side. I could be completely. Oh the oligarchs correct patriarchy. Yeah I think that's more just like old. Gorky was like business Maga- oligarchy. It's a small group of people having control of the country. By the way. How do we do we get highland make making our own countries that work and we technically impacts technically the? Us IS ARKIE by North Korea for sale. I'd rather get some. That has plumbing and stuff. They don't have greenland and trump drum by green. Yes but it was to remember. Iceland is Nice Yeah Greenland is ice. 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Well who knows now I mean it might all be blocked off everyone out. We'll check with the mayor of Indianapolis we. Can you know what I'm talking about the mayor of Indianapolis by the way when you like type should I should? I visit this place then. Like moderate drinking like mad. Like Vodka. Everywhere you go out there. I bet you'd go to Moscow. You're fine I wouldn't go to Siberia Jill. I wouldn't go there tall thin dolphin got these werewolf. Dog is nine feet tall dire jalen Russia world. The the worst criminals go in it is the worst place aren't so right now. Worst criminal wealth or or maybe a lot of people who didn't do anything wrong guy ended up on the wrong time travel inside the prison. Why it's called Black Dolphin? Bend down. They handcuffed in. That's pretty good. That sucks so right now if you want to type in. Is it safe to travel to Russia and says exercise increased caution in Russia due to terrorism harassment? In the arbitrary enforcement of local laws. 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The Nintendo-Microsoft Love Affair

Kotaku Splitscreen

1:07:59 hr | 1 year ago

The Nintendo-Microsoft Love Affair

"Welcome back to Kentucky split-screen, the only podcast. It's about kickin ass taking names and making gains kirks off today. So Matty, I convene to talk about the games. And what born and Danghan Romford as those news of the weekend. Intendo of America's presidents Harding's on the rumors swirling about Nintendo XBox falling in mile. Then we take some listener questions about anthem and games as a service followed by some off topic top ex two and Russian doll and very special. Jason's music pick of the week that is rate. Jason's. My time are let's go. We are back for another episode. Mine is Jason schreier, and I am joined by Maddie Meyers. So Hello, Maddie. And we are not joined by Kirk Hamilton who is off on jury duty. What the heck how dare he as really a disappointment and just a just a severe discipline? He was texting me a little bit about being surrounded by chairs and other co workers are like he was co workers co workers are jurors. For some reason, I this image popped in my head of a blood borne level where it's just like jury duty. Plug for now. See now, I would think of Danghan rump. The far more obvious comparison to make because are actual trials in that game. So yeah, not quite jury trials. A little it's a jury of your peers, it's a jury of who may or may not have committed the murder, it's a very different version of it. But still. Bloodborne, but we'll be the how far you endangered for. Now. I am playing through chapter three, and I have a lot of buts, MS. Let's just go ahead and dive into it. So we don't have to worry about Kirk interrupting no, finally finally we can spoil this game. So I am now I have opened up yet another floor. And now this is the floor with the physics room that has a machine that bear may not be a time machine slash air purifier. And there's an art room a bunch of hammers in it. And all of a sudden hammers are now the murder weapons. None of this major spoilers. If anybody ever wants to play this game, which I would love to have listener stoop, by the way. So and I've I'm enjoying it. But I also the more floors opened up in this game the more. I am noticing how incredibly tedious it is to check all of the rooms and see what is new in each room. And this time I was really thinking about how much like a detective I feel when. Do that and not necessarily in a good way. Because I am realizing how tedious it is to be a detective because I have to go through all of these locations and try to find on the tiny Vitas screen if something is out of place like the hammers are really small. And so I'm having to like notice where a hammer is in a room, and like rotate, the camera and find stuff and also you have to talk to every single character to see which character has a new plot point that they are going to reveal to you which in real life. You would never know that and also in this game. There's not really any way for it to indicate to you which character, you have to talk to which is an interesting way to design it, and I haven't been looking up any walk throughs or anything. But now that there's a whole other floor. I've started to get kinda tempted to just be like which rooms do I need to enter which person. Do I need to talk to a haven't done it. But I'm really hitting that level of just being like did you do that at all? When you play these games. Jason did you? Buckle down and be like, which one do I need to talk to. Well. So like with with these Japanese games, Japanese games and designers tend to love their routines and their rituals. Even when the really repetitive. Yeah. And so once you start to see whenever you're playing a Japanese game. And I'm curious listeners, you should pay attention to this next play Japanese game. You'll notice that like once you experience something for the first time, it's always gonna be the same exact ritual the next time, and I occasionally they'll be some sort of subversion. That's clever in some way, Dane rump. It does that a lot with some of the other rituals. But in the first thing in rumba, this ritual of like, okay, you just beat this trial. Now, you go to this next level. You check every room. You talked every person. Yeah. Very like, there's it's it's on one hand, it's tedious on the other hand it's comforting. And there's something very familiar, and and kind of satisfying about just following this routine and knowing like, okay next trial. Just new same thing's going to happen again. So it's interesting. I think. Also works surprisingly well for a game where sometimes you walk into a room, and there's something completely horrifying there. Because you know, sometimes you walk in and there's a murder there. So in playing it I have noticed myself getting all the more tents, and in this particular chapter there multiple times when a character's like, oh my God. There's something terrifying in that room. And it's like not that bad, and that's very fun. And also version is I think it's gonna be something horrifying sometimes it is little flower, a little bunny, rabbit, and they're terrified. Yeah. Exactly. Or sometimes it's somebody who's like mildly her, but not necessarily murdered or some other piece of weird information is revealed, which is fun. But also been playing this game at night a lot. I feel like I guess I'm a night owl compared to you and Kirk because I play video games late at night more than you guys. Unlike you, who's waking up very early in the morning and play video games before work. I do the opposite of that. And this game is pretty fun to play late at night. So I've been playing like in the dark, you know, spook in myself. Outgoing into these rooms and seeing which high schoolers will or will not be covered in pink blood. And yeah, it's a really enjoyable way to play a game that is admittedly tedious. But I'm making it as exciting as I possibly can for myself by doing it in this particular way. Also, it's tedious Zing about Tanger rump is it's tedious in a very low impact ways. You don't really have to think about like, okay? I'm just moving around, and it's very chill, and relaxing, and the music is really cool. So the tedium I think is much easier to deal with than say the tedium of like mashing the button to fight your way through heartless. There's something very different kind of tedium where you can really put on a podcast while you're magic earliest. I can I could find some heartless, and that's fine. I actually don't mind a game. That's like that. Either though. It's very different Sean road game. I'm sure I'm sure there's there are listeners out there. Listening to this verified cast while they fight some heartless. But yeah Jiang. I hope they are. They ramp is more like a reading a murder mystery before bed that's kind of a fun interactive murder mystery. And yet, I'm still super enjoying it. Even though it does have this design choice of forcing me to feel like a detective and check all of my little bookcases, and and garbage chutes and all that stuff. Anyway, you're playing lead board. Tell me about blood for. Yeah. Let's talk about actually I I wanna talk about. So over the weekend. Just I was watching Russian doll, actually, which we'll talk about a little later when I was watching that. And I wanted to just a game to play that I didn't have to pay super close. Attention new while I was binging it amid was that. She's just. No, no, no, no, no. I was gonna say we'll get to. Okay. I said I picked up hollow night which is played before. And I thought why don't I started new file of hollow Nate using steel sole mode, which is permit. Yeah. Intense is hell because Holland is like very much a sober style game. And that you dial out very like borne way of approaching Holland night. You've become hardened your soul is ready now. I like, yeah. And which by the way, I'm still eagerly waiting for you to play Holland. Maybe once you finish all the played some of it. I mean, I yeah. I think I talked about on this show, and we just don't remember things anymore. I thought you hadn't pleaded no I have we talked about it. No man up played it. I've played it. I don't know when I'm ever going to go back and beat it. But I'm somewhere in there somewhere under ground with all the executive is a masterpiece playing. So the cool thing about permanent the mode is that like puts the stakes in this level of pressure on you that you just like. Do not otherwise feel the way that it's set up is that when you get down to one health one little dude on the screen face on your it's the screen starts flashing and pulsating, and it's like this big red alert sign. And so I got through like the first couple of buses as like man, this is fun. Like, I could I could just play this. And and see how far I can get like this is getting into good rhythm. And then like I randomly get hit by some exploding dude and die just like. Well. Okay. So you have to start all over and that's an area. Wipes. You're safe file. And then you go to the menu. And it just shows you a safe file that's just like failed and you have to like erase it and start a new one. Yeah. It's total permits like hardcore style. So like, I can only imagine if you spent like thirty hours in this thing, and like, you're you're close the Anderson thing, and then you just like die, although in volunteer grind a little bit. And just make sure that you have as much help as possible before you enter certain scenarios, or now, the health is limited. It's it's metro this. Yeah. All day, and that you haven't played a heart teases. So you can't you can't get more. Well in metro you can get more energy tanks. There's nothing that's what I'm saying. What I'm saying is. But it's limited to it's not like you can grind. And you find think of it Zelda harp pieces, you find them throughout the world. And so there are a limited number, and you can only get some of them. So if you're if you're out of giving point in the game, you can only get so many abilities that will let you get all of them yet. So yeah. But you know, real what I'm saying is you could still enter into a boss fight having walked around and fought enough pedia you have every even tank as it were. So that you at least know, you're prepared for each scenario. But yeah, even then it's very difficult game. Of course. Yeah. Very easy to get trapped and killed, and I can only imagine how painful unless the if you're like on the final boss and killed them Godley. People who are so frigging good at games. Like, I definitely watched metro speed runs where people are just they know exactly where to go. And I'm sure there are people at Hala at Holland that are that good. And they just know every movement of every boss, and they're like what perma dive. Yeah. That's how playing the game. Anyway, you know, there's that dark souls streamer Nathan wrote about the other day that was like he he plays through every dark souls boss without getting hit once stops the stream if he gets it. Yeah. Same right believable. So yeah. So and then I've been playing a whole bunch of bloodborne which remains incredible. And it's like ruining other games for me as I wrote about this week. Yeah. I beat most of the main bosses, and then I started the deal. See and be nothing made me happier than when I beat the first boss of the deal led vague after a couple of tries and then read online that everyone was like, oh my God. He's aren't as I had so much. Trouble of them took me dozens of tries awfully. Yeah. Because for most of the. Bloodborne bosses. I just had so much trouble like on tons of. Yeah. Struggled to beat them. All and they all took me dozens of tries, but with this on it's just like, yeah. Got him. That's awesome. Gave me a whole new level of confidence which then plummeted as soon as I immediately got killed by like some scrub enemy in the next Nick zone. But the deal is great just so much. Good stuff in that game. You're telling me before we started recording that you started at a while back. I just I ki- right? Not vegan mood to go back to it. It's like completely my own fault. But I've been such a kingdom hearts heads face where I'm just like, I don't wanna do this put it makes no sense. Really? Because I also at the same time. I wanna be able to say that I've beaten bloodborne because of never actually beaten a souls game of play them all little bit. I always try them. I'm always like cool. I respect with this games. Trying to do like I'll play the first few hours and be like. Yeah. Cool. I like this. And then not really put the time in. But this podcast will keep me honest, like some kind of personal trainer who are just like, listen, if I come in here every week, and I have a in bloodborne, there's something wrong. This is the exercise group that I need to I need to I need to frigging accountable. I mean, you are even though you're not really you guys have been very kind to me about this. But I I would like to do it for myself. So I was curious about like we never talked about this when we all started playing born weeks ago. What Bill did you pick and what early weapons and stuff like that? Do you remember anymore? Yes. Of course. So I picked the hunters acts as a weapon the first time. I played the game. I think I would the sock lever but Kirkman I basically just followed all kirks advice play with hunters act. So I did that and that's pretty fun. But then I pretty quickly once I unlocked lead, Vicks blade. Holy blade. I switched to that. That's generally considered like the most powerful weapon in the game like the most Opie weapon in the game. So I've been using that and that is bad ass, usually. And it's big. Form I've been using it, but also small-farm occasionally and then for build I went I did this thing that you're supposed to do which is like twenty five to strengthen then twenty five to skill and then put them then start bumping both up to fifty with some vitality and a tiny bit of endurance sprinkled in along the way, vitality health and endurances stamina buse, so yeah. And then the more advanced built so that that's what I recommend to you. Because I think the more the more advanced builds or like arcane and blood tinged, the weird sats. But if you're just playing for the first time, and you just want a basic build, I think you can just ignore those. That's that's what I've gathered from reading reading tons and tons of blubber, and they become addicted to reading bloodborne keys and bloodborne fun to read them. But I'm also like there's so much completely different advice from people in those which is kind of interesting like I've seen people be like you shouldn't even play online. You should just completely. The experience. How mysterious the game feels with? No clues from anyone and other people are like, no, no, no, no. You have to lay online you have to get clues for everybody about what you're doing. And it's really just dependent on how people personally played the game the first time and their own nostalgic. Imagination of what they want to make everyone else do which I understand. But it's it does it just means that me, I'm like, I don't know the right way to play vote for his their right way to play. Of course, there is a there is not and also. Yeah, I don't know. I can't imagine playing it without the little notes a little part of them sphere in. What makes it so cool is like he'll be finding his notes that say these cryptic things and trying to figure out what they mean. And like sometimes it's good advice. Sometimes it's terrible advice. I've been are you in your Playfield, not far I've been playing online though that was what I settled into because you and Kirk had recommended it on this show. I think and I was like all right. If they're doing that I'll play online. But when I very first started for the first few hours, I was playing offline just because I was like maybe this is what I'm supposed to. To do. And then I switched over. I don't know it doesn't matter. But it I gotta just find time to block out a bunch of hours to play it, and it'll feel like a chore at first. But then I think I'm going to not feel like a chore anymore. I'm gonna love it. And so I'm excited to get to that point with it. Yeah. Well, so you read the article that I wrote you edited about when it started clicking for me. Yes. I think it's like it's about that time once you've beaten a couple of the bosses, and you're really starting to feel the groove. And like you're starting to realize the rhythms and the flow of the game. Because the first area is like, it looks cool and all, but it also kind of sucks. Yeah. And it says you into a lot of brutal situations without really telling you what to do or like how to get past him. And until you really like realized how the game works and learn understand what you're supposed to do. When like enemy comes after you. Or like, what your what your rhythm is supposed to be as far as collecting blood souls and bring him back and whatnot blood echoes bringing back, and it's fine. It's fine. And and then the first couple of bosses throws at you are really tough a lot of people say, I don't know if you've gotten a father g yet. But a lot of people say he's the hardest. Boston the game because he's the one who really teaches you how to do all this stuff. And so once you get past that hiccup, that's like the gate, and then the real cool stuff starts like when we get to the next area old yarn them and once you start exploring three cathedral ward. There's a lot of cool stuff in there. So yeah, there's there's you'll you'll see once you hit that point. It'll it'll be like it's like a brain worm that gets inside of your head. And then you can't stop thinking about it. So you'll get there. I will. I believe in myself. Did you have anecdotes you wanted to share about what born before we moved on to the next segment though. No, also, I've been doing the DNC deals has been fine. I beat most of the main bosses so one thing about the DLC. It's really interesting. And this is something I recommend everyone look up before they start playing is that the way it worked was. So it came out a few months after the game launched and in order to access it you have to have a file that's like mid game because you can only go to where the deal see is like after you've played five six hours of the game and gotten to a certain point beaten, a certain boss, right? And the way works teleport's you to this whole new area whole new bosses all this stuff. But the problem is once you beat bloodborne and beat the final buzz you're automats taken to new game. Plus, you can't just like go back to that file and go back and do other stuff you're instead in a new game. Plus, so what happened is all the reviewers and everyone who beat bloodborne when it first came out found their selves in new game. Plus, and then the deal sea comes out, and they're like, oh my God. I have to do this on new game, plus as horrible because you plus makes everything so much harder. And the most is in the in the. We'll see are really hard. Yeah. I haven't even gotten to like the really one the ones that everyone just like slaughtered by sleep. Yeah. But I can only imagine like when you're a new game. Plus, and it's like, everything is just double the health and double the damage seems terrifying to me. But then again, I also really wanted you new game. Plus once I finish this. So yeah, I become I'm I'm I'm becoming a bloodborne convert even though I didn't really love the first star souls. They played a bunch of that. And just like got into it and talked about it with Kirk before you joined playing last year when the remastered version came out, I got into it. Did you ever play the old school mega man games? Like Beckham and day we ever know. I was never a mega man person. You gotta be there metro person or magnet. That's not true. I was very much. We. I was very much both in and Meghan games. I always loved that feeling of like, you're memorizing the patterns. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Through it. And it's also a match right thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Metro is much easier than than mega mega man is known for being super punishing. Also, you can the bosses in any order, which is like a fundamentally different way the game being organized the. Yeah. And so they're all super like, you progressing. But yes. So dark souls reminded me a lot of mega man in that sense of like, you're memorizing the patterns and making your way through level and executing. And and yeah, I don't know for some reason. Maybe it's the vibe. Maybe it's the way you play and how it's defensive than blood were news something about it. Didn't click with me the way the bloodborne did. And everyone says that dark souls three is a lot more of a continuation of blood borne. So I'm very excited to jump into dark souls three eventually, eventually you're not ready yet to let go bloodborne, I guess DLC. Well, you have to you have to get completely emotion. Tired of the DLC after beating and then you'll be ready for dark souls. Exactly. I might need a break from these types against a little. That's right. Yeah. It's it's fortunate. I was thinking we were talking about this the other day about how a lot of people that we know at least a lot of people, I know are replaying breath of the law this month that isn't that conversation also made me wanna replay breath the wild. I got it. That really reminded me how great that game is low. So the interesting thing is that like so far just kind of objectively speaking, or at least zooming out a lot of it and looking at the landscape twenty nineteen hasn't been a great year for video games yet. Like there hasn't been anything. That's just like super like blowing early. And let's go ahead and say twenty nineteen. No, no, no, I'm so far. And I say that is because February was supposed to be this huge year us run for video games like crackdown, an anthem a new far cry in new metro and a lot of the stuff has issues like anthem is fundamentally flawed. And I don't think I don't see myself going back to that for a long time crackdown. I have no interest in and it seems like some people like it even crackdown. But yeah, but it still seems like a last game metro appears to be super buggy, according to Kirk farcry just seems like Mark farcry, which is fine. And all, but but yeah, it just feels like a very underwhelming month. So a lot of people I think are going back to revisit the classics and breath. Elilott, of course, is a masterpiece like why not go and revisit the best game ever made. My wife has been doing. She's been plan replaying it and Nathan Grayson and our slack was talking about replaying it, and as just on the text thread was other people who are replaying it. So I think it's a whole it's in the air. And I think blood Warren is up there too. Like bloodborne is this masterpiece that people are just in the mood to replay now. So I feel that Dan romp A T where I'm like, I don't really wanted to play anthem. But then you're off a great game playing that, you know. So, yeah, if you're bummed out by all these games, just check ice backlog. There's gotta be some good stuff in there. But breath of the wild man good game. Could game man breath awhile. Yeah, we could we could rave on on. Yeah. That came out. It's actually the perfect time to replay that because it came out two years ago. And so that's like the perfect bench. I've forgotten all this stuff two years two years ago. Yeah. That's like a good amount of time. So you haven't been getting the replay it to but my wife stole the cartridge. So it can I do. Why don't we talk about a couple of quick news items? It wasn't a ton of big stuff there. There were a lot of layoffs that we won't really get into that super depressing. Layoff news in the media ministry. Let season the biggest news of the past week. We're recording this on Tuesday. So we're actually going to air this after the Pok, Mon direct heirs. We won't be able to talk about that. Because we don't know what's in it. But the biggest news so far of the past week has been Nintendo president, Reggie fees may left Nintendo. And this is like the end of an era. He was even though video game executives moving is not usually that interesting at least two to us. Reggie was always a face of the company. He was beloved. He was a mean he is. He's one of the few black executives in the space as well. Which is so I mean, I think a lot of people have an emotional attachment to Reggie in part because he was a meme, but also he's just very charming. And I don't know it's in spite of myself, I try not to be charmed by executives. It's really it's against our job. But also just in general, it's against my egos about how capitalism lurks so put Reggie's charming guy. It's hard to charm by the guy, you know. So. Yeah. And he seemed a couple of thoughts on Reggie first of all he he'll even though he always spoken like very dry business. PR turns the Elta PR, man. But he he first of all he always seemed like the rare game executive who actually cared about gains and play games and like I recalled being at threes in the past. And and seeing him just sitting there like playing three DS game or like, he showed people his dragon quest file that had like one hundred hours on it. So it seemed like he was legit. And the other thing is that he is the rare video game executive who's just spoken of. Really, positively like privately by Nintendo people worked with him. Like people just seem to really love him as a person and a leader. And I think that's pretty cool. You don't you? Don't hear a lot of negative stories about him screaming people or anything like that. He just seemed like a legit guy. And yes, you remember were you like watching threes when he first came on the scene in two thousand four when he did that whole Scher when I was still in college. Yeah. Back when easy was a mystical magical thing that I could only imagine working at a place where I could go that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Back back in the day. When when. Yeah. Video games where we're a mystery to us off court. But at least you and I yes. He infamously came on stage. Like, my name is Reggie I'm about kicking ass about taking names. And we're about making games for fans. I what every single person says may come out of it was so good because as Chris Kohler pointed out in this great piece about him. It was this this like Nintendo had been such a conservative company. And here's this guy saying the word asks onstage tend to so it was like like unsettling and awesome. And just like blue people. So yeah. So it was cool to see him say goodbye. I don't know. Obviously, we'll we'll probably never know if he was pushed out or is it on its own terms. But. Hopefully, he's just taking a cool vacation he's stepping in for normal, healthy reasons that would be nice also not something I feel like we see that often games is just somebody stuffing away. 'cause they're like all right. I'm good before. I get burned out. I'm going to go. So I hope that's what it is. Because I'd be I think he's like in his late fifties. So not not that old not like retirement age. He's made more than enough money to tire. Why not? Yes. So and then the other thing that I wanted to bring up in scene circulating is these Nintendo and XBox rumors. Have you seen this round about game pass? Yeah. It's a whole bunch of stuff and a lot of it. I won't get into all the nitty gritty details. But the long short of it is there. Rumors on a lot of random YouTube channels and different sources, reputable, reputable, some not so reputable of Nintendo and XBox just having this partnership one of the rumor is that Nintendo has gotten platinum games to revive scale bound the canceled. Xbox. On the switch and other of the rumors that XBox is bringing their games. So the switch and another rumors is that XBox is bringing game pass to the switch of these things. And I know a lot of people are probably wondering if I have heard any of these seem well, have you? The thing. The only thing that I think that I've heard pretty confidently from people who've been no is that XBox is bringing games to the switch. So like, I wouldn't be shocked to see Ori and the blind forest and like the sequel to that on the switch and they're pretty perfect. Yeah. That'd be great on this witch the word. I mean, the word from people who talked to Phil Spencer like work with Xboxes that like, and I reported this a couple years ago or last year whenever I last wrote about XBox the word from them is that they don't care what platform they're on. They wanna release everything on everything they've given up the idea of XBox exclusivity, which is why all of their games are coming out on both XBox NPC. So that that in itself amount shocked. I've asked a couple of people about the game pass on switch thing and heard like people saying people who might know saying I haven't heard anything about that or people who win. No casting some skepticism on it. So I'm more skeptical of that. But also would insert prize me just going along with this XBox strategy of just wanting to put their stuff everywhere. And I think excesses in a really interesting position in that. They're thinking of their new Xboxes as like phones, and they wanna create this model, that's like a way bigger ecosystem. But the thing that I think is more likely than XBox is going to be focusing on getting their cloud thing and cloud streaming whenever that actually happens ex clouding it's called at I would think they would put on more devices before game pass because that is like their whole like we want people to be able to play any game anywhere because game passes is not is more is a subscription service. So it's not like you can you downloading the games from game. So it's not like you'd be able to download these high end games and run on a switch if they're super high end games that you can only play on a PC XBox. So kind of from technical perspective. You would think that before they could actually do that. They would want to have cloud streaming and that capability so. Yeah, pretty. Title about that stuff. Also, very skeptical of the scale bound rumor that one I had heard about actually last summer. Someone told me there was a rumor floating around, and this is like someone who just passed along the rumor that had been floating around. So. Even though you heard about it a year ago, and it's still around, but you're still skeptical. Okay. Well, the funny thing is my theory was that after the announced that game was I called astral chains or something a couple of weeks ago at the Nintendo. Yes, it's not called that. But it Astros. I believe astral something. Astral chain. Okay. Astral chain. Maybe. Yeah. I think so it's like a co-op platinum club platinum action RPG like looks like what skill is supposed to be different setting. I can't imagine they're doing both that and skill bound for the switch and the other products. They have announced they also have a three in the works Amit game for square inex- that they announce. Yes. And presumably they're doing more near stuff because I would think that near on a motto is a huge success. I want they do. Although I haven't heard anything about that. But yeah, I mean someday. Yeah. But so that's ready like four five potentially projects like how big is planning gains than even companies with offices all across the world have trouble getting one game together and look at anthem. They had by were Edmonson by were Austin for awhile by where Montreal and they have had trouble like producing one game at a time. I can't even imagine a studio like platinum. I mean, I don't know a big. They are but him that many game. So I don't know I'm skeptical of that one too. What do you make of all this stuff, all this, Nintendo and XBox partnership stuff? I mean, you're skeptical. I'm skeptical. I made a joke about Microsoft Nintendo at our live show, and I feel like ever since then that Joe haunted me because our wonderful listeners tweeted at me about it anytime, there's any sort of overlap between this companies, which I am entertained by feel free to tweet those things at me. But as definitely been like, a funny thing for this particular news to becoming up and have have me having made that joke. I appreciate it. But I don't really think they're going to do that. It's just so you. Yeah. And there are. Yeah. I don't think so either that happening, but they have like signal to the world that they're working together tweets between XBox Nintendo. And they they announced. What is it? The team into help late is an is a Microsoft game. Technically that's coming to the switch. So there is that. And they've been doing cross play like they've been made a whole show of of them embracing cross play while Sony is like in the corner sulking and be like no one's allowed to cross plant be as for so. Yeah, I think there's definitely something to the idea that these companies they're buddies was going on the console. Where's are over? There is some sort of true staff inning. I don't know. It's messed up guys. It's all. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. It's interesting times. I do think that the thing that maybe people aren't paying enough attention to. But will be soon is streaming and what that will do two games because that's gonna every gaming X cloud as well, if Google I mean, I'm incredibly excited to see what Google shows that GD having we're going to be there. We're going to him, and I will be there. Hopefully or hopefully going to talk to some folks over there. But yeah. So they announced that they're doing this big GDP Keno where they're all Shelby revealed. That's their big thing. Right. And so I reported in the past that they have the streaming thing. They have some hardware. I don't know if the hardware actually be there. I had heard rumblings that it wasn't that they were going to focus on the streaming platform. But the streaming platform, I think if that is like as if it works as as as advertised as it will be advertise of I think that could change everything we know about the way video games are like made and play it and of like this about street. Aiming and games for a while though. And I feel that there hasn't been anything. Yeah. Has I mean like Invidia has their thing. But even that is not there hasn't been a company on the level of Google coming in and saying, hey, we are eating this to mass market. We are going to make it. So anyone no matter what kind of they have can pick up their phone or their PC or MAC book or whatever and like open up, a Google Chrome tab and play essence creams. That's sounds too. Good to be true to me. But did you ever try when they did the beta test the project stream beta test, did you try it was it also that. No longer skeptical of totally thought in ready to play its created fire, FOX or whatever. Yeah. There's like a tiny bit. Well, known fire FOX. It's not crow crow like a tiny bit of latency that I noticed. And there were definitely some like, I mean, I was on a high speed internet connection, obviously gonna work if you you're on a bad internet connection, or if your band with this capped, but but when I played it like grand super smoothly. It was thirty frames a second not sixty second. But it looked good. I could just play the game, and I was just baffled by the fact that I was sitting in the office on my MAC book like playing this in Google Chrome tab, that was just mind blowing. So this is what they have to to show like what their capabilities are. And what they can what they can actually do with this thing. And and I know they've been funding games. And I think we'll see some of those their presentations, it'll be five there. Well, we'll be there. We maybe a big one. All right. What are we take a break? And we have a couple of listener questions. We are going to get through. Pay. I'm Melissa Kirsch editor in chief of life hacker. And I'm Alice Bradley life hackers deputy editor, and we're the hosts of life hackers podcast, the upgrade on the upgrade. We help you improve your life one week at a time. We talked to guests like former hacker Hector Monseigneur about online security needs to be aware of how you could be attacked. It needs to be aware of what your weakness and Alan Alda on how to communicate more effectively and in order to achieve that we start with teaching exercise to rive improvisation and sex, therapists, Steven Snyder about how to have great sex in a long term relationship. What really works under those circumstances is enjoy the other person's selfishly K your life. It's terrible. We can help. Find the upgrade wherever you get your podcasts. And we are back. Hello. Matty. Hello jason. Are you ready to take a couple of listener question? Yes. I am. Let's do it. Do you wanna re I one and I'll take the other shirt. Yeah. So we got two runs. This one is from Terry Terry writes, hey, Jason Madyan Kirk rack God. Hey, Jason, Mattie. I really appreciate your coverage of the recent troubled, launches a seventy six anthem and other games as a service, those games in particular launched in a really broken state, and even the most people consider that unacceptable. I hear a lot of excuses for bio ware in particular because of the nature of anthem as a live game that will evolve over time, then made me think of another absolutely massive live game launch two dozen four world of warcraft at some problems launched server issues and glitches, but it was still a great game at launch earning ninety plus on metacritic and even game of the year from a few outlets, including gamespot. Wow, may have been the best of the entire John. But plenty of other or geez have launched in the past without the massive structural issues of anthem fallout seventy six or even destiny and the division. So my question is do you think standards of fallen for game out games at launch in the fifteen years since or do you think the comparison of making is unfair? Mandy, what's your take? I do think that standards have really changed. I think that when world of warcraft came out the way that people felt about something like that was very different than it is now in this post world of warcraft time. But I also wasn't a world of workout person. I've played warcraft just plain old warcraft. But Jason you've played. Wow. Right. When it came out or no, did you? Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll so I think that it came out just people their minds being blown by the idea of so many things in that game. That now seem very simple to us like the idea of multiple people being being able to participate in any type of story was incredibly cool at the time and my friends who played with descr. Meeting people in world of warcraft informing these lasting friendships. And of course, now, we're like, well frigging, you can meet people in a video game and form lasting friendships. But at the time, I remember that being really revolutionary in a lot of ways. And yes, so I think I think Terry's point is that. Wow. Even though it launch or the same server issues of fallout seventy six kind of buggy it was so fundamentally incredible. When it first launched that like, what's the excuse of these games that are coming out today aren't fundamentally great. That's I think that's what Terri is asking. Right. So I think that's a really good question. Because it it. It's well to answer that question. I think you have to look at what came before. Wow. And wow was like the top of the bar. But that's because it took all of these things that everquest had done for it, just mastered them, right? And I think now what games are trying to do is set this new bar for this Jonah. And everyone's looking at what has come before it, and what has come before it is like every single game. It's come before. It is just launch this us, right? There hasn't. A signal game in this John row that is launched and been like ninety plus quality game. It just hasn't happened yet. And I think there are a lot of factors here. I think with both anthem and followed seventy six you have the issue of like a team that had to work against extreme time pressures and deadlines. But yeah. But right now, there isn't really like you could look at destiny, and what it is today as your baseline because destiny is as good as it ever has been and be like, hey, let's work to emulate what dusty is right now. But what does it is right now is like evolution of them meeting with players and talking with people and having these fundamental conversations that changed everything, and it it's it's not exactly the type of formula. You can just look at and copy from the outside. It's the tip of thing where you have to be in. So in touch with your players that you can actually hear what they want and change the game accordingly. So I don't know if it's it's it's tough to expect anybody to be able to launch that up the gate, but at the other. The other hand. It's like if you're not gonna launch with that out the gate, why even bother. Yeah. I mean, I remember last week you in Kirkwood complaining about how one of the issues with anthem is that you can't play with a group of people and have it becomes miserable. Because the cut scenes play different times for different people. Also Kirk was talking about how forcing the game to let him play single player was like ironically better. And I feel like the things that people like about destiny and the things that people liked about world of our craft when I was in high school, and all my friends were playing it are playing with a group of people and having that campaign experience that you described Jason wanting out of anthem and getting in destiny for better for worse than still having this text chain of friends where you're all playing this game together. And I don't know that that actually is that hard to design easy for me to say. But like whatever reason anthem couldn't master the idea of three people four people whatever playing a game together. Ironically, I feel like I've seen people talk about apex that way of all games like having that sort of the party is going on an adventure experience with apex. And so. So I don't know. I think that if anthem had just nailed that. Then people would have been able to invent their own stories for anthem that in it almost wouldn't have maybe mattered. If anthem had kind of sucked followed, obviously has his problem to you can't do anything like that in fall at seventy six where you and your friends. Invent a story and you play the game. And that experience is what makes the game. Great. I think that's how people still feel about how and I think anthem had somehow gotten that together. It could have been really great anyway. Yeah. And a lot of people were tweeting us an Email and over the past week since let's accepts it about stars the old Republic, which I never played it. But it did a really it has dialogue stuff. Yeah. It's been a while. But it's famous for being good at those kinds of things. But that's more different people mostly talking about like the dialogue and story telling right. I mean. Yeah. I mean, there are a lot of questions to be asked about anthem. And I think there's there's a lot to there's a lot that. I'm sure we'll be talked about in the in the coming months about like how that game was made. And what happens to them? It's like how did one thing? Right. And he of these one things that we've listed that would. Yeah. It's really too bad. I was so excited for that game. I really I wanted it to be good so badly because I've loved by were for long time and wanted them to keep making awesome stuff. And it was just so hopeful and really crossing my fingers, even though I was hearing like through backchannel is like whispers of like this game is fuck this is fuck you were just like, no it isn't. No, it isn't long. And yeah, I mean people started getting optimistic after trauma, they came out and something that a lot of people talk about by the way, and I'm sure if in when we publish a big postmortem about anthem sure this will come up pretty heavily. But Casey Hudson who started the project lean on anthem left bio air in two thousand fourteen after starting in two thousand twelve he was he laughs he was the project. He left he lifted another people's hands went up to migrants offer a few years and then came back in mid twenty seventeen so just kind of reading between the lines there. Even if you don't have any inside info or anything, you can you can point to that. As like what happened between two thousand fourteen and mid two thousand seventeen when this project lead was gone. And before he came back like what was the direction of the game. Looking like what kind of like early decisions were they making are not making and and what kind of floundering are they doing in pre production. And I think that's going to be one of the biggest questions about like what? What happened to this game? And just. Yeah. I mean when you have this this kind of world of infinite possibilities and infinite directions in which the game can go. It's so hard to actually make decisions and be like, well, we're going this side because there's so much pressure on every single decision. And so it can just be you can spend endless time like iterating and decided in the cycle of pre-production or you just you're going down, these directions that might not alternately work. And it's just time. We I feel like I hear a lot about sunk cost fallacy stuff too with this kind of thing where it's like, well, we've already devoted a year to making this one thing. So we're just gonna have to find a way to fit it in and I can imagine how even without a project leader changing project leads that would become all the more of a problem where it's like, oh we worked on this when you weren't here. But who knows anyway? Yeah. It sounds right. Yeah. And to be to be clear, he didn't he when he came back. He became the head of the whole studio. So I'm he didn't even return to anthem specifically. Yeah. Right though, the studios like primary and pretty much only focus for a longtime was infants for the past since he came back tiny tiny team working on dragon h four but everyone else's like full steam ahead on it. So I'm sure his day today was very consumer anthem and like making sure it was in shape. But, but yeah, that's that's that gap is certainly something to wonder about. All right. Why don't you read the next question? Sure. Okay. This one's from Matt. Who says I'm not interested in trashing kingdom hearts or its fandom. I enjoyed Gaunt's. That's great to hear that. Anyway, I enjoyed the early games in this series. But it's lagged behind me. Maybe I'm an awkward age for it. I was into the little mermaid Aladdin the nightmare before Christmas at cetera at the time. I don't care much for toys story and not at all for frozen or tangled nor much for the other worlds. Encaged three. Jason. Did you write this Email? Get the platform. Fluctuating fracturing of the franchise overtime made it impossible to follow by the time. The compilations brought it all together already lost interest. But really it's just been too many years. And here we are with a sequel, and I barely remember the time when I could barely remember the plot. Let alone cared about it. So the real problem is maybe sequels that take forever and changing tastes and lost interest. In the meantime, as we all get older in a similar vein. I worry what beyond good and evil to will yield. I cared deeply for the first game waited with bated breath for sequel until I had simply lost all hope. Now it's revealed, but too little too late and not at all what I wanted to be. It seems sequels taking his long as this who are they for. And why and what the hell is it just me? I sort of wonder if I cared more for Disney's more recent properties. What I care more about cage three or has that ship sailed, regardless. I will I will put this to you Jason. But I just want to say out of the gate that as I read this Email, the main thing, I was thinking about was half life three of all things. And just the way that we talk about it. And how at this point. I don't I would never want it to come out. I just there's no way ever could when people talk about that game. I'm always like, why are we even pretending we want this? Anyway, what do you think about it? Jason. Yeah. I think there's a there's now a few different precedents of games that are in heavy development for a longtime much-anticipated for a long time. And then come out and just kind kinda like. I think the last guardian is actually really good example of that. And it's just like one of those games that had been so hyped so antiquated for so long that by the time it actually came out like people at are ready had their hunger for that type of adventure game satiated by other game. Yeah. The case with a half life three where it's like. Well at this point. We've had so many games that have been influenced by the half-life franchise, and in my opinion, sacrilegious -ly, do it better. Like, we've had you know, aliens and things that you shoot at and you're exploring a warehouse, and you find out that the place where you work isn't what it seems like we've had so many games that I don't think. Think about ten years after. Oh, man. But whatever I feel like it's kind of been done at this point. So kingdom hearts is a little bit different for me. Because I do think that so much of it relies on being up to date on Disney properties. Which is definitely why it's such a weird circumstance, which is kind of what I'm talking about last week where I'm like, well, I keep up with kids movies because I liked them for some reason. But if I didn't happen to be an adult who likes kids movies, then yes, there would be nothing here for me not care at all about this. If I hadn't seen all the toy stories and tangled frozen, and I just like animated movies, I like animation. I think it's cool. But if you don't like those things, then yeah, I don't know this game is real weird scenario, and it is just a slice of the past. That is based on childhood properties that came out in the past ten years. But why would you care about it in less? You worth thirty two. Like, I don't know. I I don't know. Maybe we shouldn't be spending ten years making a video game. That's kind of. Yeah. And so beyond good and evil to get example. From. And I think that another one that comes to mind Shenmu three people have been anticipating for so long, and who knows how it land. And if people will actually care when it comes out like a lot of people are like wildly intimating, especially with the series having taken off doing so. Well, so yeah, I don't know. I think this is really interesting interesting question. And it's like, you have to wonder at a certain point if it's worth just like starting something new and cutting your losses and being like, you know, fuck it. Maybe we won't do K marts three. Maybe we'll start a brand new p of sense or I guess that's an territory of its own. But this kind of makes me think about metro prime four and my own feelings. That's good. That's a good against you know, I'm excited about it. But at the same time, I feel like metro has become very overwritten over time. Like at this point. We're coming up with more and more pockets of Sam is his life to like stick a game into that. We have an already been covered. She's only so old. Only so much of her bounty hunting career that we can cover here. I think we should have grandma SAMA Saran. I think that should be love that I would love that. And I think one of our listeners was even tweeting at me about this. And being like what if Sam was training, a new young bounty hunter to do stuff? And I was like I would like to the new Buffy. Yeah. Or like something else? Because at this point. It's kind of like we've covered a lot of her life. She's she's at this point fought the same enemies, multiple times visited the same locations multiple times to a degree that is somewhat unrealistic some of the other prime games have these other bounty, hunters, I'm kind of ready for pass the mantle or what I used to say before that metric prime for announcement happened. I used to say I wish they would be boot the metro franchise that was a Mattie Myers mantra for for many years because I was like, it's so messy. There's some weird personality right conning with Sam says multiple people have written her just rebooted get a new team in their try give somebody else the reins on famous tomb raider style. And just do something different with it though. It'd be really. Interesting to see. And then I don't know rebooted again later like let other people do different stuff with this character and this idea, but instead we're getting metro prime four, and it sounds like the development for all ready been kind of weird. So I'm worried about it. Anyway, that's how I. So point to this argument. I think one of the reasons that kingdom hearts three. And also the last guardian and some of the things that we mentioned I think one of the reasons that those games kind of flopped or I don't know about commercially shortly. I landed landed way. Yeah, is because there have been other games that just did them. Did that Jon Rao better? There are mukisa last guardian. There've been so many indie exploration gains that just like like took it to the next level. Or in the case of marts three. There's so many action games take combat to the next level and make you feel better. Then and Kenya. Hearts three feel stuck in the past reason. But with veteran, there aren't a lot of first person at Troy like style. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like the closest you can that I can think of is like doom, and that is so much more about shooting than it is about exploring and finding new abilities and stuff like that. Yeah. And I think that a metro prime four could actually fit really nicely in today's world, especially on a platform like the switch that is just so lovable and and great to play out. So I actually think that story aside I'm giving all the metro, especially if other m still canon it is far as we yet is. But as far as the game itself, I'm pretty optimistic, although it's worth noting. And I think someone did an article about it. Maybe it was I did an article about how most of the leads who worked on the first three metro Brian. They're no longer at retro. A so we shall see. We'll see what what becomes of that game. Now that it is retro retro hands. But we know we won't be seeing it for another two or three years. I'm kind of hoping it's sort of light on story, especially in the post other m world where I'm kinda like the Morris story put into metro-dade the more tangled web, it becomes an less interesting. It becomes my opinion. I think it's more fun when it's mysterious and you get to kind of imagine what say MRs thinking. So I'm hoping it's just another good ole metro prime game. But on the switch that is what I would love very much. I don't need to know more about same asus. Feelings at various ages in your life. I got it. You don't have to tell me. We're good. We're good on Sam. We're good. We're totally. Speaking of things that are tangled. Why don't we take a break and come back and talk about so off stop IX shirt? And we are back Maddie is time for off topic talk. And then get to Jason's pick of Jason's music pickup. But I I why don't you tell me what you've been watching checking out that is not related to this is very embarrassing. But as I've been playing hearts, all it's really made me wanna do is watch the movies that I've played a level for and then I just have gone ahead and done that. So like, I watched the toy stories in the background of doing chores. Toy story. The franchise. It's great. Did you guys know about Toy Story? And also I watched tangled which is still a really fun movie. Honestly, I enjoy it a lot. I am a grown adult watching children's movies while I fold laundry. I don't know. This is who I am. I've accepted at myself. Also, I watched the second movie with my girlfriend, very gamely has been agreeing to watch X men content with me and saying she enjoys it will we ever truly know if she enjoys it or not, I don't know. But yeah, we watched it. She enjoys that you enjoy. She respects it mystique is so fun X two. I love mystique so much. Have you seen those movies? Jason do you. Remember them. Yeah. Yes. So you remember X two. I was my favorite of she. It's great. And it's really really fun mystique movie. It it's really truly her movie. Even though she's barely in it. It's mostly just the other actors getting to have fun pretending to be mystique at various points. But it's it's really fun. Bryan singer is a piece of shit allegedly. But I and that part of it makes it hard for me to every watch those two movies for sure, but yeah, they're still great. So. Yeah. That guy the guy who plays strikers is really good. I forget his name. I always confuse them with Dennis hopper. I forgot that actor's name. But he's like I kinda very good in it. And as wolverine sort of surrogate dad figure, he's a fun, and yeah. And the stuff I think we talked about this last year a couple of weeks ago about how they set up this great Phoenix stuff in the next movie. It's just all for NAS as the lecture my girlfriend heard was I was like this is where it ends. There are no more excellent movies. Them. But she was kind of curious by the end and was like, but I wanna know what happens that Jean grey. And I'm like, well, you're going to be really just appointed. But we watch that one perhaps. Well, any braided we can watch x three it'll be very different extremes than this. She comes back, and then never shows up and then. Then happens the end, she goes home. She just goes and lives in the mountains somewhere. Yeah. So I've been watching Russian dollars mentioned before finish it. I finished it. I finish it all in one sitting awesome. Yeah. Because as I said, my wife was at a town. So I was just like I'm just going to binge watch it on Saturday night. Not so. Yeah. So it's about Kirkman here. Maybe next time. Maybe we'll talk a little more just to go over real quick about getting I won't I won't spoil this at all. Because if you're if you're out there and having watched it go watch it because it's incredible. It's excellent. And Natasha Leone is the main cash as you might know for orange is the new black or other things. She is incredible. I love her voice. But yeah, she's so good. And she just carries the show. I would say, well, it's. The protagonist of it. She deserves to carry it undoes. So as you pointed out the first couple of episodes, pretty slow, and then it hits this point. And anyone who's watched? It knows the point that I'm talking about where it reveals what it actually is. And then he gets really good. And then from then on it's just like a wild ride. And then it actually reminded me. Have you ever watched the leftovers? No. But I know it's a thing you're a big fan of so. Yes, so kurkin I or I discover the leftovers last year or two years ago and kurkin I had been talking about it hardcore just I was raving about it as I was watching it highly highly recommended, but Borussia doll like towards the end actually has some of the same like weird surrealist themes as leftovers, and they reminded me of one another and some really interesting ways highly recommend that you sit down with your girlfriend and watch all of the leftovers because maybe credible. It's either a hard thing. Hard thing you might do killing eve next, which is a show. I really love. I don't know if you've seen that show, but it's good anyway on my list, but the leftovers OMON especially season to the leftovers. It's this astounding stuff that that show is like life changing say. Mighty to show for me like up there with the sopranos as like one of those ever up there with the sopranos and Veronica Mars is like like best shows high. But anyway, yeah. So so Russian doll reminded me of that. And it's really cool. I the one my one complaint is I wanted to see more of her her video game. Okay. Kirk had already warned us like video games aren't really going to be that much of a part of the show. But I loved those very brief scenes that we get and like there's like a one office meeting with other video game developers that she works. Like, oh, yes. This is going to be part of the show. It's not I I want her to. It but zoom out for a second kiss. People aren't familiar with this basic core of the show is that this woman who's a video game. Programmer as her job, she winds up dying, and then the shows about her dying over and over again. So she comes back to life and resets at a certain yet. Sorry, she comes. Yeah. She relieves the same day over and over again or multiple days over and over. And so yeah. One point we see the scene of her in this video game city as you mentioned. And it's so funny because she's like actually this guy caused the bug and she pulls a laptop and she's like typing, and then she's like, it's fixed. And it's like come on. Really, this is you think that bug fixing? I also have really was curious in that scene. If what we were supposed to think was that she was full of shit, which is part of what I wanted to show to delve in a little bit more into because the rest of the the episodes are about her not having her shit together in her real life. That is the premise of the show without it being a spoiler. So there's one one moment when she actually makes it to this work meeting, which in almost every other day of her death life, she's missing out on his not going to this work meeting. But the one time she does go she appears to be nailing it, and I thought it would have been funnier if she like had fucked it up somehow or yes. But I think that might just be a problem where the writers don't maybe know enough about video games to write that bit. Because that scene doesn't they needed a video game consultant. Yeah, they needed us to come in. They're not us somebody who makes games. And fix the the the final episode is just astounding and the editing, and like everything about it the music and everything about it is just incredibly well done the music in the whole show. Loved the song plays every time. She dies and is incredible. I love the different filters that they put on that song to that like as she's opening the door. It's really there's a lot of really cool sound design in that show that emphasizes the scifi spooky nece, and I love that show. And a lot of good a lot of good humor. A lot of good New York hipster humor. And yeah, just a just a great show all around. I would say highly recommended very easy to watch. It's eight half hour episodes. So four hours max. Yeah. It's easy to watch unless you need to take a break in the middle which you won't be able to do because once you hit episode five or so you're going to have to just keep rolling. It's best listening. Sure because they episodes aren't really neatly divided until like actual stories. It's just one story just happens to be divided one really long movie. I that's more. How it feels? Yeah. Agreed. But yeah, highly recommended and we'll talk about this a little bit more next week when kirks back. All right. Well, before we say goodbye time for me to play the role of Kirk Hamilton. And before saying anything, I'm just gonna play my music pick of the week. Then mid them. See the the good well ways half to be concealed. Don't let them. Will. It back. Many. Me any. And that is of course, let it go. Great song. Disney movie frozen form by your favorite films. Jason, right. I've never seen it. I haven't actually seen it. But you, but you know, this song because explain let me explain. And then and then I wanna ask you some questions. Well, let me so I heard this in the past. But the reason that the song my music pick and has been stuck in my head for the past like four weeks is because right after king three came out. I wrote a post so was about this hilarious story where someone left a watermark from some video editing software in the frozen. Let it go seen in Qena March three. And as part of researching that story I to watch that scene like find the watermark. And that's when the song started getting in my head. And then after I was reading the post. I was like, oh my God this song it's like my head. And I started playing it. And then I started playing playing playing and now just been listening nonstop because it's a catchy song in the world. Many as a musical expert has someone who writes and performs music regularly. What wise the song so catching? Okay. So there are a few reasons why I think this song is effective within the scope of the movie, but you haven't seen the movie, so those won't matter to you. I guess I'll just explaining the plot on recopied shirt. So I understand I would say one reason why the chorus is so catchy as because of the repetition of those specific three notes. So like the melodies like deta Dutta. Data data. So you hear out the end of that line? It does Dutta again, and again, so it's like you're continuing that repetition of data. Dada. Dada over and over again a little bit creates a loop in your head. So that helps a lot. And then also I think what helps that song is that it's actually pretty complicated. Structurally compared to a lot of Disney songs. There are a lot of different parts in it. So there's a verse that starts out really low, which makes sense because the first verse she's talking about bottling everything up inside. And she sings some of the lowest notes, and then she starts doing the little pre chorus which is like the don't let them in. Don't let them see. And then you hear her singing up the scale. And then the chorus also has two parts to there's the Dutta part. And then there's the done part, which is like the second half of the chorus. That's the highest possible part. So as she's building this beautiful ice castle. Her voice is going up and up and up and that. Scale like, I mean, the human brain just likes the scale. But it's also that paired with the visuals of her building this beautiful castle. It's very it's very on the nose, but it's also very effective. And I think the other reason why people like this song is more emotional, which is that this is kind of an interesting Disney movie where the villain of the movie is also kind of a Disney Princess or Disney in this case. Yeah. And the song even though it's so hopeful is actually wrong. No. This was exactly, but she doesn't know any better in this moment. She thinks she's doing the right thing by abandoning her city and going off on her own. And in this moment, you the viewer don't know that it's the wrong thing or necessarily you don't know everything about the situation yet. So you're kinda like oh, cool like else's finally striking out on her own. And so that's hopeful and cool, and as her voices climbing up the scales, you yourself or like, yeah. This is triumphant. But it also has these ominous like at the very end there's this cool co-ord- where she's like let the storm rage on and on that on there's that really weird ominous chord, and it just I don't know it sticks with you in a in a fun way. And also, I don't think you have this association with it at all, but Dina Mozelle became famous because of her appearance in wicked which is a Broadway show where she also plays a sort of a witch mystical character who is evil or is she and I feel like that. That and defying gravity is a very similar song. And a lot of ways there's a lot of like intense, high belting, and they pretty much wrote let it go for Edina Miguel. She's like noted for being able to sing extremely high and do these kinds of climbing staircases vocals and yes. So it's it's her performance as well. And also the associations that the audience might have with her playing this particular kind of complex character. And that all together is I let it go is going to be stuck in every good forever. This has been an episode of strong songs. Thank you, very. To it very rapidly. Put together episodes dog songs that was said mostly the top of my head. But Attis that he's melodies that would be pretty good. Yeah. I'm not gonna did it Kirk Scott, copyright, copyright, matting Meyers this has been Maddie's melodies. Okay. That is of course, frozen. Let it go. You can listen to it on YouTube and your face. Do. It will never leave you. I'm so sad to ready. The brain worms are ready inside Verdy Kirsty because of this episode of the show so sorry apologies in advance. We ruined your week for you. Good luck getting out of your all, right? That is for next for this week's episode. We will be back next week with her hopefully, hopefully won't still on jury duty because that'd be wild. That is for this week. Yeah. Five. Taka's would screen is an official podcast of Qatada dot com. It's produced by Kirk Hamilton ninety miles and meet Jason schreier, Kirk mixes, the podcast and also wrote them performed are Fien song and other where part of the fusion odd work where Mondo Phoebe is executive producer of audio even find the sun popular podcasts. And this is like panoply NPR one will play an apple podcasts. And we hope you'll leave us a review like what you hear find old episodes that talk dot com slash split-screen or Email us at slits pain, Kentucky, John.

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So that's up along with tens of other videos Brown crap on demand so go check all that stuff at everybody. We're just we're just just Pasolini over here. Okay are we. Are Burgess making it. I'm trying to get trying to get to the end of the week sometimes so But for right now. My blood is boiling Rani. My blood is boiling because I watched below deck and a coming really mad. Yeah I it wasn't fury eating episode. I mean my God. This is the most sexually harassed C. Show on television both yellow deck plane and especially below. Oh deck mad but this is just getting. It's too much it's also it's also it also is a really stark reminder of of what women have to deal with in the workplace just condescending attitudes from men microaggressions just immature. Behavior is just so much by behavior on on on display for this episode. Yes there really is. It was pretty infuriating. We were both watching it at the same time on an airplane. We both got super pissed off together together at the same time. It was really fun. I love like some mutual anger in real time. Yes so So the episode opens up with us us with Simone and Kate. They're still having a confrontation because Simone feels like she should be getting more opportunities as a second. Stu and Kate has not been giving them to whereas smells like Gee I don't I don't get what's going on. I mean no one saying anything to me a SEC. Do whatever. Kids like You're a great seconds to maybe the word I'd use would be terrible embarrassing horrific. No now awkward Maybe you should be a bricklayer. I don't know how many different ways can I say this. It's not personal but it's also not wonderful wonderful to hear from other crew members that I have a stewardess who's Stewart deaths. WHO's upset and now you've made our department look past? So there's I'm department look bad addict but I'm telling you you have you have okay and like this is really distract me because I'm trying to come up with my next good laundry prop During an argument use just out of it stay tuned stay and then it turns into really high. Kate voice where she gets mad but instead of yelling she just separately high vines. And she's like okay. You want to go down to your room right now and fresh. Nah maybe take a minute. Yeah served destroyed you know and you want to take a minute you want to commit. Okay you want to think about how awful you've been and now you don't even understand the difference between Lemons and limes. Yeah and their how they they are not quite the same as an Orange Okay and she tells us when I was seconds to add it way worse than Simone. I was stuck in the iron at the iron room downstairs for two months straight and I never saw the light of day and then we see a photo of kate holding an iron smiling like well. Now this is just crazy back. Quincy argue about to use that as a murder weapon like I like. When do you smile like this? You're actually happier with an iron hand. How she was young and in her mind she was like like? Oh God I love yachting. This is great. You know earning now. But someday I will be the The head of a crew. Who knows what they have to do seamlessly because clearly really I know as a second STU now iron and I can only smile it? How many responsible employees? I'll have to work under me in the future so Simone is obviously really upset and Is crying and rallies like so what's up. What have you got it? And she's like Oh it goes just so hectic and I can't she's like well. Yeah Kate does this all the time she has like very that'll patients really riley seriously serious. You yelled at somebody within like the first five minutes. We're back what are you talking about. Riley is basically then she pivots to like her natural advice which is so you WANNA get like drinks ours way tomorrow you just want to get blasted and just the guys yeah. Let's do that got it got already got it. So then Riley goes to bed and she's monkeying with Kate and she's like Cell Has Amoun- so well she's pretty upset. Like oh my gosh a victim. I can't I can't with this K.. Eh and Riley says well I I kind of like her. Like I'm surprised but I kind of like just jail. Yeah but then you find after she doesn't understand what a fork is. So you know what I understand. Put back is backpacking. BRANKS fucking mouthy. I hate her up. She dies fucking shit out Brian. I'll tell you that right now. Missiel him away. He's not GonNa know court is by the end of this kid's like well. You are Sir Sir. I don't know what that means Kate. Savage got it got it. Thanks Kate no literally thank you got it. I understand what aversions got it so the next morning now. Yeah and Brian National Talking. And they're like well. Are you ready for it or are you ready. Brew Brew Brew preapproved game. And then the ladies come down. And they're all normal myopic. Hello Good morning this lovely. Oh I wish we had some cards to play or something wholesome like that Kathleen all right. Let's get out of here. It's time to go to a doctor. We can have some more of that. Good old fashioned backing drama. Let's go uh-huh so tanner comes to give Simona Hug and kiss and he's like let's have some fun tonight. Let's get let let's get a ED. Let's not attention crew all right. Let's get to the front gives a white ladies a hug. It's time to line up and give hugs the white ladies. Let's step it up okay. Let's do sports fans so the ladies leave you know there's like the whole like this was so wonderful more wonderful than we could have ever imagined and thank you very much the whole goodbye. Things like cleaning the boat tip meeting to meeting meeting with the tip was twelve thousand dollars which is on the low end but as a but it was a short short charter days. Jesus Christ how much to these people expect. Yeah so so. Kevin of course is all pissed because he's always pissed on here to make money and right now. I'm not much of a lot to be frustrating. When you're putting your hat and your soul into this dead I'm really said about I don't need I don't need laws I guess away bit? You really pick your fucking heart and soul into that chicken Parmesan Kevin. Yeah really inspired. Jevon your regular monet have like we'll believe the heart and soul thing if every Every charter don't say wasted. They're not gonNA know the difference. He has a French fry. Why Yeah I'm going to pull some salt and some acid in their their throat and rounded out with some fan? Because I've also seen in an documented or anybody and it seems vittal wet so Captain Lee has a special treat for the gang. The are going to get to go to an elephant sanctuary to wash. Elephants won't be watching a yacht. You'll be washing elephants. which sounds charming except the yacht won't cheat on you so happy with that a sickly I even on break? You're going to wash stuff and then I'm GonNa and you have to resort that you're gonNA wash about that S- according to like. I'm obsessed with elephants. They're like my favorite elephants. I love their wise they cry. They don't take selfies in the gym people. Just because they have good bodies you know then we're totally similar malar understanding good food ironing. They would never even consider bucking up a seafood tower. They're ordering three tiers. Minimum Sultana is getting to. Oh by the way before we move on. Did you see the text exchange between between Courtney and Cameron from Dallas Street because it's Bravo. Yeah storylines are happening in the exact same time. I love her. Bravo's weird how that happens but the the elephant elephant sanctuary happen on Dallas this week or last week as well as ballistic this week and cameras like I am absol with bear. All of our slamming courtney is like I'm obsessed with baby elephants so they became friends on twitter and it was just like I wanna say heart warming but they're both fairly coldhearted old hearted in a good way so it was like very heart schilling. It was it was like a An air hug. It was like a a hug from across the room room. Regis look at someone who's squinted them like. I would hug them if I was willing to walk over to them. But I'm not so I I felt bad for Lianne fellatio probably very very triggered by like an excessive amount of elephants they are broken at a somewhat who was broken by a this is very order to watch so speaking of people who were not dropped off in mall parking lots and left Let's go to tanner. Talking to the best. Mommy in the world the Anna Heine went right. You calm each. She's texting him over and over and over again crazy tax. Like slow like like how are you. Yeah you call me. She's like all caps you. Okay you okay. So he calls me He's like Mash. Albo okay show. It sounds like she just woke up from a nap. He's like I'm fine. Okay a little girl who just woke up from a nap. You had that lights anything I kind of I like Bob. Are you getting haunted by goes to get into the TV just a little bit like. Hey Hey Marie he'll he'll call when he can. He's fine he's foreign. I'm sorry I worry to my. She's like I ride my Jesus grass blown my fucking phone. I I lavious Heine thought up yet. Attack the Hukou pregnant hiding jiminy cricket mob Jimmy Cricket so then comes a really important controversy. Kevin is like a roving around. And he he takes out a bunch of wine bottles from the cool room or the frigerator and so then he sees Courtney's like hey courtney I don't WanNa be a prick but if the one gets into the cool room it has to come out it's Mois spice and if we get one you'll be too busy to clear it out for me. It's like already. This was like a little bit of an off. Requests like can't Wyman the French. Yeah don't don't don't put white wine in the fridge. Because if an order comes in he'll have to take it out himself and I guess I don't know it doesn't it doesn't totally makes sense. Yeah I wasn't really understanding this either at. They have another fridge. But guess what we're going to get to that fight and a little while or an minutes. Yeah Tampa Kelsey Goddamn elephants all right. Everyone you've got fifteen minutes to get your asses rainy ready for some real acute elephants Kitto. Real cute so he does this every season where she just kind of holds everybody else while she gets ready but I don't feel like she she does that at least we haven't seen it every season we haven't seen it but she probably does do it just that other crews are smart enough not to challenge her about it and make it into a storyline. The owl they're getting sick of it now and on this here but So she's taking forever and she's just like doing our makeup and addressing her Bikini meany and doing your make again. I'm you know what I'm going to take off my makeup and then I'm going to do that again so with it. Yeah exactly and Kevin's getting the Jesus Christ so so then. Kate finally comes out and she wants to put she sees the cold winding out there So the reason why the cold winds out. I'm Um your put gold line then we might have the cold wind back in the fridge. They're both coal. They both belong together Mariah Carey. We belong together but in wind infringe forum. You know what I'm saying. Anyone who take the cold wind out of a refrigerator which is cold. Don't you think we should back in. And he's like no like. Oh I'm sorry. Is this just your fridge. And it's like Yes well you know it's for the for the charter gassing us so stick it in the ice machine but we have a humongous fridge bridge here is it's more spice It's a refrigerator. And there's a lot of room in it because it is a walk in refrigerator. That has a lot around is like that. Mr Dope said it's empty because all have made empty. Same as your fridge that you have that you possess upstairs. Yeah cave-ins by bars by like not he. He's actually see perpetuator so she puts the wine in there anyway. Because I'm so happy. The wind for the future charters tip Oscars cold. Now I'm so happy about that so see They need beer and she's like where he can. He does beers from and he's like I've just getting up for boy ever ever. What else gets I guess? Where's that the fridge? Upstairs she goes. Oh you mean my fridge which for those who are wondering like why. That's so funny. It's basically her way of saying. I keep your fucking beers in my fridge and I don't complain about it. So wind goes in your fridge. Oh I thought she was being in funny because she's like you can't own a refrigerator because it's just a refrigerator and print. It turns my fridge. No I think I think that she was saying like yes. See how ridiculous it sounds when I say might like like like we all all the stuff and all the fridges right. Oh so she's like. Wow this is he just wants to oppose me so yeah I give that a four out of ten conservative faction. That's even less creative than his chicken Parmesan meal. So so now the the they're going out and of course their gender vans so the men are in one and the women are another and Kevin's bitching about this fridge edges. Like oh I mean. It's so much spices. It's you know it's Moi demane. It's more domain. Only get to put things in the air like shut up Kevin Refrigerator. That's where all refrigerated things have to go into whether it's the bottom of the top rages not like it's not like you're monogrammed on their monogrammed. They're G G monogram collection in June June June June handle so the other van rallies like. I'm not really getting a good read on Kevin. In case like I'm I'm really not getting a good vibe from Kevin so does need the the day after I get some Paleo made fucking Paleo so then Riley is making fun of Simone Excel. What's EPA tanner psycho? SECO- go. Well you didn't tell the whole truth. ESN scuttled and tenor said. He went down on. She's like Oh Michael Essel at and then the other Vancouver's like I said to Sims last night I'm going to need to fucking I'm gonNA fucking eat right now. You know what I'm saying. 'cause live put my mouth of a giant giant. You know what I'm saying. La Got back to rally going. Yeah and he said that you check for like eight seconds. Yeah and that's what she's like goes an asshole really. WE'RE GONNA make out with him. I know exactly. Yeah because the most like don't tell people about private matters or you that childish. I agree also you should never go back to his room after this and of course she does yes and then it cuts the channel. Gelt Down Dude. It's so disgusting because it's like it's a CO worker lake. Nick it's so bad it's so so bad so gross so then we go to the elephants sanctuary And the ladies like these elephants is safe from a horrible law and then we see the elephants playing and I just I want to go to the elephants sanctuary fifties. Elephants are so cute and this little baby elephants And Courtney is like I'm dead. My soul literally leaves my body. I Like I can't go my soul body body because up to heaven and goes to happy hour work at Seafood Tower. And haven't I literally cannot cup. I like I have a Tantrum because I'm not coping. I'm like I. I actually turned to drugs. 'cause I can't cope with these elephants right now. I'm Mike Basically Remy right now. Like Kevin trying to figure out what what kind of seafood goes on a multi tiered dish so like not coping antennas. Like I'm GonNa eat this elephant out. Can't wait to go down on that. Hey guys talk about the elephant I am I am I I do love cougars. Nelson's that open gave me a trunk job. Hey a so so yeah so now. It's like they're like putting mud on the author and then there's like this weird slow-motion elephant cleaning sequence. Did you notice that he yeah. Is this top gun or something. I don't know Kelly mcgillis. Yeah I'll coming out from behind the elephant. Mike thank Spanish. She's she's just chasing that elephants in her little that little sports car that she drove the maverick. Tom Cruise loses all slightly less crazy around the elephant. He's like slightly less crazy in this decade. He's like you've lost that Lovin fee author it. Can we go back out. We leave the sanctuary. It's been ruined. Just let us back in the circus. Courtney is in love with all of it. She was like I guess like five silence so they get back in the vans and Simone still annoyed with Tanner and cates. Like I wanted to Elephant Yoga. Mike think it's like go yoga but like more deep tissue like being crushed to that is that is that what you're thinking and cording goes died after she literally says that smashed. The ground cannot live by. Can't live like literally like you've been ironed by the elephant and like the wrinkles. You do not wrinkle after that so there are there back. Where are they getting ready? Are They Baba's wrong. I said that they were going out to dinner. But they were actually going out to the to the elephants and other back so they actually go back to the boat and actually don't go out that night but there's looked like they're about to go out to go out there looks like they're about to get ready to go out but they're just getting different close. So Simone's like wants to have a child with tanner and she basically. She's I think she's very very nicely. She's he's like you know what happened between me and you. I don't think it's cool to tell people you know like basis not until. It's not cool to tell us what happened. He's like yeah 'cause you know you don't want people like this Mattel in you know you don't want that old thing and she's like yeah exactly like it makes me feel like you're keeping score recalled you know and like it makes me feel a little dirty. And he's like Oh the last thing I wanted to do was bother you when upset you. Yes well my penis said after you handed lead me for about a second. Yeah I don't WanNa make you mad. I just WanNa you out until one about at. That's wall meanwhile simone still doesn't know that there's cameras whereas right on the bed catching everything night. So that's still a big so simone feels pretty good. She feels like a child. Well and then we just see channels like seven thirty and starts doing shots by himself and he starts saying is why don't get into relationships. You having fun and all of a sudden you're interrogate you understand and that's the problem. This is like one of many problems that comes up in this episode. It's like you're not being interrogated. You're not on the stand. You were being immature and you're being obnoxious and classless. And she was like please. Please stop and now it's like. Wow No being interrogated. Like he's making himself into the victim. Which is a classic thing that men do and that women have to put up with all the time it is so fucking problematic? And Tanner like shut the fuck up. Yeah Yeah it was wondering when you were going to become a nagy hell yeah. He's like most cool. She's a cool girl but she's not my vibe right now so now. It's it's like Simone's fault that like she's upset that he's being a total pig and now it's like Oh. She's being so possessive. She's being a Nag. I was like no you were being. You were the problems problems year and rather than face that you're turning it all on her. Shut the fuck up tanner. Yeah so kate is next to Kevin and she's folding. They're both folding clothes right right and she's like so and he's like so what are you doing. And she's like I'm folding your clothes. He think but there's only late my clothes but Tell me to tell me who else is wearing. A chef's coat CIPRIAN. So then. Tanner Tanner of course then goes and tells Brian. These like y'all so was simone just had talk to me about kissing and telling so obviously someone told her probably Riley like I like the takeaway is that someone gossiped as if none of them gossip. They all fucking gossip. So now it's also now Riley is GonNa get trounced by these guys because she oh she's trying to like uh she's she wants the boys but Nash talking to the girls which is such like a retrograde view on like conversations but also. He's getting mad that someone is like telling tales out of school when he was the one talking about using the girl out. Yeah ten is like well. He's a bit of double. Each was a bit of a double Egypt. She wants to work with the boys but once we want the girls to like No she the one thing should not have to do with another and it is so so old. Fashioned ashes drives me nuts. So woman being drama. Mak- Yeah Brian. EPI Wasn't like that she was on all side and so then Tanna goes to tell ash. Ashton comes up so he's like you know like she was she was deter happened. Basically in essence well if she wants to be one of the girls and she wants to be one of the girls you know you know the boys keeps shape between the boards. And that's what we're going to do from now on. Yeah and then Ashton says this job is so much more pleasant. When you're working with people that you can speak freely and openly with which is like to me that that was actually such an awful thing to say because the implication there is you can't speak openly and freely because of women right like that was so so terrible to me like it's me that is such an old fashioned? It's like madmen level ride like So how about instead of like how about you just like if you act professionally. You won't have an issue rather than talking. About how like Brag about how you ate out your coworkers plus You know which is worse. That's how about like. There's no need to talk talk about that with your co workers and you've actually created a very hostile and uncomfortable work environment for someone. 'cause like yes you're on TV show which is a work place in and of itself and yes you are all in close quarters but it's still a workplace and so like really if anything. Tanner should be the one reprimanded. and not like not simone and not Riley because Riley talks and therefore his. Now people aren't as free to be WHO THEY WANNA be it is I went to tell Riley when I yes so Ashton's went went to be like. Oh how hot wind. Since when did it get so hard to just get someone to suck your Dick Right. How do you think it is so hard for you to speak freely of the workplace? Now you know what it's like for like millions of women who can't speak up about a million different things have how about you look at the episode of Simone Getting sexually harassed by that charter guests and not be able to say anything. Because like her tip was reliant on it no so then. We cut to tanner getting just wasted by himself. Like Tanner's officially got a problem. Now he's just like taking shots by himself and he stacking up the Red Solo Cups. I mean he's not like three or four. I'll stacked up. And then we get a classic classic. Classy guy move where he's in. He's getting into bed naked. Where they're like shading out his cornhole or whatever the hell like one little part of his about their saving out and he of course texts him out? Come to my room and you would hope that Simone would have recognized that this guys a Dick and and so she well let me. Actually she thinks at this point he says I don't WanNa Kiss Intel. So she thinks okay. Cool I'm GonNa get me some so she goes over there and of course he's he's also passed passed out so it is the sleep by the time she gets there. Yeah so now. It's the next morning it's GonNa be the Big Beach Day and where they have the day off and so we see some only being ten room. Think I'm missing you already. I'm like Oh so long. Come on come on. Jesus can she spend one night with the guy he's not like all bar fee to some self-respect perspect- already come on. Leave the loser please. So everyone was like waking up getting ready and then captain is looking in his like little lent and he just picks up a piece of lettuce and stares at it like hell. Is this. Get Bam piece a lane lantis on tap on my God damn why they just like tosses at the side with so much anger. And Courtney is like very excited for the Beach Day. She's like an she's in her like Beach Ensemble. And she goes beach close for lounging and I'm always ready to lounge just drinking wine eating pasta finding ways to cope with baby elephants live can't cope can't can't cannot so then we begin the countdown of have kate taking forever where they start throwing time codes up on the screen time stamps on the screen. I'm shaving okay yeah okay just let me do my hair. Oh Chris Paul myself a little trink. That's something that you okay. Great Great Great. Yeah everybody's that is getting so mad at her and Ashton and he's like Kay everyone else is ready to gay say it would be nonstop few ready to just checking on you and you say Oh my God thank God that I mean to that lounge chairs not going to be there all day. Oh eight it well. I'm just keeps taking forever. It's like way you're it. Just GonNa make her go more slowly at this point and then Kevin is mad that she's not like pretending to Russia's like at least show face them I rush around and then I walked back to make it look. Look I'm rush like if that you'd be mad at her for doing that look at his. She's like pretending low. She's in her support she. She doesn't know what she's doing. You can't win and then Kate just has to answer any questions anyone has on. Why cade is doing this because at this point is blatant and goes well? I'm the last to get ready because first of all well I'm a higher rank than everyone else and second of all shut the fuck. Yeah I admit I probably would have gone really annoyed waiting because I don't like data like everyone's ready and there's one person doing their hair. I'd probably have been furious. Yeah this is like a housewife fight. This is one of the ones where I'd be like. Okay she can take van. Sou The young exactly exactly but in this case the guys are being such pigs this episode that. I'm okay with her torturing them so they are yes they're are in like their vans and cates handing out coronas in her van and then the guy's Van Ten does like so. Guess what I woke up this morning I woke up next to small and then a text message that said what am I recall. Oh God these women these days you know it's like you can't even like call someone for booty call anymore pass up before they get there and then disrespect imponded behind the back and may be mad about it. Yeah got only remember what happened I. That's another thing I hate. It's like oh I'm just so wasted I wouldn't even fucked up. It's just a wasted is annoying. And it's like two nights in a row so then the girls are in the van and some like wom Steve. And Brian's like cuddling in the back with Courtney and I'm like You're tired because you're running around over a fucking fucking idiot and giving unaware of your time so they arrive at the Dream Beach Club and ready for this junior to fry got it. Got It fried ginger. Coming coming right up got I WANNA fuck Brian Right in front of me. Sorry Massey Face Courtney sorry got it. Wow am I in heaven. This resort has everything A Bar a pool Kevin losing his hair having pretending he thought shit when he really just made chicken Parmesan just generally Kevin having losing in the Sun. This is great. Wow Oh you know what I see there. Floating in the pool expectations that Kevin's father had for him. Wow look they're just letting away. Sorry Kevin in the town the train by rallies like Oh my God look at Kevin The puck and Dad Bod look at that. Look at that and look at back in Brian. Yeah it's fucking hot shit out of him which is by the way to be fair. I don't think that Brian has a dad. Bought I think is his body is better in a dad. Bought now not Brian. Kevin Kevin Kevin Either Way Kevin. I still don't think he does a dad Bob but I do appreciate the shaming just because it's Kevin and corn is like. I like Brian Brian. I mean like it's not a serious relationship But like you know I do get a little jealous win. Riley excessively points out his APPs but perhaps are excessive so it so maybe it does require extensive conversation. I don't know I don't care. Let me go sit by him. Remind rally that this mousy bitch got the Hawkeye Bay rallies like Oh Courtney's going to stay acre claim. Well good for her. They're cute cod brisbane taken. God He's Gorgeous fucking in my head right now feel over there. Have a lick. The sweat off his ABC Fuck that puppy sell heart. Yes yeah we'll riley like she's like riding a bona palm tree so Brian Ashton. Are you know being Bam brands like it's it it. Was it like early and cake to want to hang around with us. Like what's up with that Batman ashes like whatever breathe. She's eating a pizza with no. Didn't you haven't say this Someone's ashes eating a pizza. which is probably very Harry Payne Leo? So you guys you guys are not owed Riley and kids company okay. That doesn't just automatically happen right. And second of all stop blaming Riley about the stupid Paleo fight it was Kevin who made it a big thing. St- math errors. Why can't they just like do whatever they want? You guys are at a resort. They what are they supposed to all be sitting around watching you play pool or whatever the day off and sometimes people on their day off. Don't WanNa be with their co workers. Okay got it. Got A mountlake anyone on this show right Ben ex I love spending my days off with better Bam got it let and got it got it got it love God. It's God it's so if you're my baby elephant. I can't even cope so and here's the thing so brian getting. He's trying to wave over kate and Riley and they're not coming over so he's starting to take personally which is actually sweet and cute but also like misguided maybe a sign of youth like it's not a reflection on you so stop taking it personally but it's time to build up at him and I and we eventually bubbles over later in the episode. But he's starting to bubble. It's like clearly. He has a psychological thing where he's feeling rejected right now. So then Ashton gives us a pretty the important update on a scale of one smashed in. We are getting smashed in. Who wants to kiss kiss? You have no choice in the matter and of all five women women in front of me down is like I love. Yes that's why I was attracted to hand and say Oh thank you. Yeah so nice yes joining. Yeah Baby Ann cates. Like Oh my God. Simone is like an octopus wrapping their tentacles. Around tanner slowly at least defecating or pray. Pretty much gives them too much credit though like maybe an like an enemy whatever you call those those things just because octopus smart so hot so now a bunch of hot girls enter the clubs dancers arrive in like a slow motion and walk down the staircase moment. You know and the guys. It's like a beer commercial because like whoo hot girls and they're like lower their glasses are like waving them over like it's like it's like watching a bunch of like babboons and like someone's throwing coconuts over the over the fence like in Dallas and Ashton's like strip rip is GonNa Strip so he gets up and he starts doing his like weird likely salsa. Ask thing it's like I guess it's like the. I don't think it's very thunder under to me. It it yeah. It's very like a mom taking salsa class step and boxed up an shoulder and he was like a lot of like Asu Ling to me if it were if it were salsa it's like supermarket generic Eric Salsa that you got like it's just like it's technically salsa but totally. I totally pace so K.. It's like they're you guys do but your and then we cut to captain Lee on the boat with getting a tan on. I was like man. They're really showing a lot of captain. Lee Skin this year la La. Ah La so tanner trying to get kate to come over to join them. Frolicking in the pool and she's just lying there in the shade and she's like I don't WanNa talk to you because this is better being here alone in the shade while Riley masterpiece on the labs next to me to Brian. Yeah I like this more. I want to gauge and Brian is still just like pissed off. She's not they're not joining the group and he's very very of ended. How could you hurt me like me is? All I wanted was to bond with kate who I think is amazing. MAZING cates like. You're a real Yadi. I love you which seems like a pretty benign thing to say but apparently it's not which we will later find out and then Ashton in what people call themselves yachties on this show all the time. This is the first time I've ever heard that it's something really offensive. He's like Leasing Co. Miata okay. Well let's also remember That Brian told us at the beginning of the season he had he used to have used to be with the father of you guys. My brain is melted. I'm sorry he I used to be the mother with this child but he had a problem because when he would get drunk he would get really mean and here it goes so he's drunk and he's being mean he's like unquote he's he's not well he hasn't he hasn't turned just yet. But this is the first one K COZMA Yati and he is probably the so then Ashen is is like that guy you know. There's always whatever Adams that guy who does accountable at a public pool. Because that's exactly what he does he runs right into. The Pool does accountable and of course the huge splash and splashes all the expensive DJ equipment and he just cuts the j just like having to wipe down his shit like. Oh Oh. Don't mind that it's just his livelihood. Don't mind that too action. You're so thirsty you just ripped you know what I mean like. How much attention do you need? So so then tanner sitting there. And he's like he's like drooling at the go-to answer even though sitting with Simone and she's like are you looking. He's like sorry it's just amazing. I man L. never seen the body like. Oh Wow wow wow yeah. He's like I was thinking I should dance with the Hash. It I was like no. He's like yeah. Yes as you dance with which is like Oh just go to your thing be happy again. So which he so he goes over and he goes out of this woman on on the podium. You come up. And then she just he just goes up anyway and she just looks like horrified. And like I think that like basically tanner thinks that he can do this because Ashen and is also doing it over with the other girl on the platform but the difference is Ashen is actually dancing with the other girl like he is doing his little sauce thing and he's twirling her and like she obviously gave them verbal cues like Yay. We're both like dancing. We're dancing whereas tanner just gets up there and it's just like grinding unlike. Yeah yeah he's letting all over the he's just that drunk guy at a club like trying to let all over the professional help you know. It's like it's like if he was in target and he just the jumps behind the counter starts checking people out like this is a workplace are yes and she like the dancers not into tanner's like his hands on her hips absolute like sort of like very close to her hips and Simone's pissed because he just like left her and then even the dancers like by like leaves and according to change because and she left she left so Kevin's like Tattoo. Bro' You've fucked. That help is like what I do what I do. Yeah Brown's like Simone might see when you dance with another girls I hope emission before. Why did it and then she wasn't serious? You stoop face stupid. You're supposed to bid. So then he goes back over and he starts. It's like giving all cuddling gross with Simone Mine. Just tell me you're obsessed that you madam. He's saying that you know at it's the moans just like like fuck him like he's like you know she doesn't want to be treated like a toy cannot believe the guy who made out with me two. She's seconds after he barked has no respect crazy. And yes according to be done. It's a dick move to ca simone and an awkwardly. HRA nearer the poolside dancer. He is a dish. Yeah I mean he's like we'll show you. That made you upset. Not If that it made me upset that it made me say whatever gold grandma you know what. I'm saying God so some of them are like that's on the beach so they go and case just staying in her chair enjoying a couch. takeouts enjoying caveney outs are enjoyed couch so so then everyone else is on the beach. Brian and Kevin are happening. Bro Moment And they they spend their brome bitching about a kid. Kevin's like tight treats us all well like beaches and it's not Roy. It's an IT'S GONNA pop. That's all I gotta say. I'm not he'd get treated like a bitch. Well here's the thing the way your beat you feel you're being treated by. Kate is how you treat everyone especially the women on the boat but because she's a woman and yes. I don't care that I'm on very pro woman soapbox today because I'm podcasts are and I'm starving right now and that's how I feel but like again it's like more of this like bullshit. Oh like a woman told him what to do and now he's like. Oh Oh wow. She's a bitch. She chooses. Bitch Blah Blah Blah Blah when. He's the one bossing everyone around all the time every episode nights. Also trying to like sea seeded into Brian Brian. I'll pissed off about it. You know. so He's get Brian. I'm getting Brian all worked up about it. And Kevin tells us he says kids can even a terrible person she kind of is actually. Yeah so tanner didn't bring appropriate at or close does so they're like Oh Bru- you can try on some see if you can fit into Brian shorts so he puts on these shorts closes. There's a close up of the shorts. And how they don't fit him but there's also a very very pronounced like move outline and I don't need to see this. Yeah I guess I wasn't is not go. 'cause Michael Metz Right. Yeah it was like looking at according sean show on So Kate Okay so far right so can house up to kate. And he's like I'm getting the bill now. Did you get the bill did you get a uh-huh because we're all closing out now like don't make us wait again. Basically neither bellinger and go yeah. He's like telling her as if she's never paid a bill before so she picks up on this also by at this point. Kate is also wasted. She's she's been slurring for this episode so she goes well. You probably don't know how it goes because you're usually sleeping but Usually I pay the bills because you're usually sleeping so once again I pay you sleep. You sleep a montage of Kevin Falling Asleep everywhere every oh she's like Just you know. Because you're always being sleeper sleeper face Ashton and I always sleep. Do you want to go to sleep now with that hiring to listen to what interactive play. I know Kevin's never gonNA see sleep. No more probably won't probably won't see that doesn't relate you know what you don't movie. He probably really hated insomnia. Doesn't really doesn't really speak to him. Yeah so then. He's Pissy with her. Like you want me to Pay Your Tab K. OCCUPA- won't be pay your tabs. That which send you want me to pay. Well made bad. I'll stop talking to me. So now. Ashes wastes let's So they like the dinner table and Brian Corner Holding hands which is very cute like I have to say. I admire Brian's dedication to the long game because there are other Dick Wads like tanner. WHO Like I give it my best shot? Whatever moving on he's like? No I'M GONNA I'm GonNa work at Courtney and he has been so I do. I do admire that he is is. She's basically said this is what the court process will be and he is following the rules. Yeah he's kind of cute she's like you're kind of drunk doc. texting someone is texting. And everyone's like come on make an effort make an effort come Montana making effort so Ryan thank you know. Maybe you should switch seats. You could be close to this simone. You know you could fix things. Thanks or whatever yeah but like ten is not doing it they all toast simone just like furious scowling. Everyone because she's understandably very annoyed Loyd so now. Brian and tanner go for smoke. And Brian's like the thing that I hate the most in the world seeing a woman disrespected. I absolutely hate that. I hate with a woman gets called a bitch for really no reason especially when it comes out of nowhere from someone who's supposed to be very nice. I hate that said notch. No way to build this up you guys I really hate seeing a woman be disrespected. The worst thing in the world two minutes later take off. Yeah I know if anyone would ever call my lady a yard at punched in the face with that such a huge amount of disrespecting the wire word yeah so they pull him aside and and Brian how come on give you know you can't just hook up with her and just ignore her and he's like Jimmy Quick Dude the fact that it's just because sitting next to deliver gasoline portion of the evening where tanner's now going to be like. WHOA she's crazy? Look at all this drama. Rama I got us at next door otherwise no you. Don't she's not asking you this next story. It's more like you've been total Dick and you've been a dick in front of her face as and she's mad at you and if you were gentleman you would just next door and make her feel better. That's what they're asking us not Herbie like being a stage five goals. You still need each. I gotta I gotta the next to you. You know like you sweat. What douchebag so? Let's just keep fighting so he'll give me more attention. I stop with this. Just Drop Rob Ham. Get rid of this fucking loser okay. Someone's not just drunk loser. Who Barks makes out with you and then continues to be a loser and then they suddenly are not a loser or a ten minutes later? He's a fucking loser some self respect and get away from this asshole. I treated you like Shit all day. Like I know. Simone this is the life lesson people like this. Don't get chance so now tant now. Tanner blaming the crew from an awkward instead of his own stupid behavior and then They all right. I'M GONNA go. You'll find simone. He walks off and smells not even over there dumb ass. I can't even cope with this and of course cabin is like we confronted Tanta about him to be better because he's like. Oh okay so now. You're NAGGUS setting tanner up for failure. Because when he does do something right right then she's just going to be a Co.. You just did this. The hero campaign told you to do exactly. And also when tanner goes finally sit down Oh actually I guess. He asked Ashton to take his seat and he's like apparently not allowed is not allowed. But I'm sitting. I'm not sitting next to Simone which is like I don't know I'm just. It's such got such a Dick such dick so anyway. So tanner is like. He's complaining about getting all this shit. Anything I just want the with the crew was so Ryan just WanNa the new drama taxes at the drama came out of thin air you know. It was like foisted upon him when he is the one who created all of it he tries to stand up almost falls vows over because it's such a wasted mess. Yeah so they're back in the vans and cates like so. Here's the thing tanner. You should not allow her in your bed. If you're not gonNA give her gentlemanly commonly attention gang and then other in the other van rallies telling Simone Back Ed Beck and it doesn't even have hand anymore. Fuck him the way. I'm GonNa Fuck Brian and my dream. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. Mardi dreaming dreams happening. Oh Yeah Kevin. Actually Kevin Actions The one who says she tells. Simone basically. Don't do a bootie call. I mean who'd have thought Kevin of all people who would give the good advice. Uh He's right. Don't do the booty calls on. Yeah so then Brian and cater talking. And what does he tena her. So basically kate like someone wants a drink. The Brian Pack the cooler with the Beers. It's like thank you Brian. You're the Best Yadi I've I've ever met. He goes. Please don't call me just you don't like it. That's I know you're Yati Yati is like being called a Yati. He's like. Please stop saying the word please please. And he tells us a lot of people in the a lot of people people in the industry yards and it's disrespectful term. And she's like well. I think that he oughta someone who's agreeable. Hardworking Ball traveled goes. I'm I'm not Yati armor seafarer. I'm like okay Mr Magellan can. We just live relax. Yeah Okay Hab calm down. I know sorry to bother you while you're moving your Nautilus Mr Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea and Courtney's like she's giving you a compliment stupid just requirement. I don't like it and not to say that where I'm not calling you a Yati Brian We like by during this. So she's like my calling you. Brian and tanners like pass out in the backseat and then they're like busy. Kate and coordinator Brian. We're not calling you. Yadi at tanner just like wakes up. It gives us look like dude dude. What's wrong with you? No idea what he's reacting to. He's just like he's like dude. I'm Brian I'll pass NASA Keiko's. I'm Brian I'm not calling you a Yati okay I mean what do you think I am. And he goes Actually you kind kind of a Bitch Brian. I can't believe that just happened. I can't cope. It's like wow that Brian was the nicest guy ever and surprise. He thinks I'm a bitch. That's great great. So kids like the bad that she's been called out of the blue and Tennessee. I'm called the bits my face all the time. Get over it not not good so they all get way are they back is will. They were like arriving like at the at the dock or whatever and say okay. I'm I mean I'm just GonNa leave out of this van the arcade the ban some movies. I I I know how to get to the I I can figure it out. I can figure it out. The car is moving and just so. Stop the Car Bucking idiots like these brands like you can't just do whatever you want to do. As if like like this. Ah trying to build more add more meaning to this moment in the past. Shut the fuck up Ryan. Yeah yeah so she gets out and so they all get out so they're walking back and Riley's like has your band ride Gordon's like wouldn't recommend comment that basically it's like Eddie meal served on the current yacht that we're on not recommended not elevated not tasteful as fall. The man tried to make an entire meal out of white things at failed by the way. Yeah by the way his white party meal was chicken. Parmesan I mean. I don't know I guess maybe chowder or a piece of whitefish. It's literally called. Whitefish was Russian. So Kevin's like What ended up happening? What Maverick? Every branch Kate was usual. Amd You told it back right off. Didn't you are dead. And he's like my man like it is so obnoxious and and Brian is like she's the common denominator Ja. She's coming to nominate drama. I'm like no actually come denominator Seems to be you guys actually. Yeah he's like someone needed to place every line. That comes out of your mouth right now. So then kate comes into the mass and the captain's just sitting there probably still wondering what the fuck about lettuce wise and how was your mind like. Oh so great. He's on how well that's great. That's wonderful news. Did I tell you about the lettuce. I found that the batter lettuce. I'm tapping my me. Who the fact so? Yeah well. This lovely PAM is about to be erupted and so the guys start piling and gibbons like what does the globe year yeah nations' like howling leave from behind and meanwhile so all these guys are in there and there's a still a pile of laundry next to work eight sitting and she goes captain Lee. Ed what size pants are you. He goes thirty six thirty six. I believe okay great and then she takes a pair of pants and just throw them on the floor. There's are yours but they could be Brian's yeah so then she just keeps throwing clothes on the floor to picking up like pieces of clothes and throwing them on the floor and Kevin's mad. He's like what are you doing doing is just I promise. They're not yours. And Guess. What a great fucking chief still yes? Storms out of there he goes. He's like she always thinks she's above us but not she's talking to. You need the fucking Leno in front of my Dedi. Yeah I love see. That's the thing like Oh. She thinks she's above us. All I mean. What do you think we've been watching all season with Dick Wad? I mean like you have been so haughty the entire time. It's nerve wracking. Yeah so oh Ashton's like what happened in these claims. She's throwing clothes all over the cream so they asked him. He's he's like he goes on the floor clothes. It was on the floor close jeepers. What's going on here? And she goes They're just people's whose stripes are Baloney somebody on the floor to really demonstrate industry that they are literally below me right now. It doesn't mean you get to throw the clothes all over the floor Do you know what you're can't you said to me. It must have been bad because as close a role of the flow and he's basically trying to reprimand her and scold her and she's like no I'm telling you as a department head what what your person said to me and you know what like I mean I know sometimes when we watch these shows it's like Oh God whenever they get like being they're bonded about hierarchy. It's so stupid but at the same time it is like Kate is a department head and ashes the department head and it in a normal work environment workplace. If someone from someone's team like an inferior person yes in mouth off to another one that would be an issue like being a department head generally wouldn't sit there close. It wasn't very penny moment. I'm not taking that away case finest moment and professionalism. Let's just on this show because kate usually keeps it so she really. Now she had some issues ripping someone to shreds. Yeah you know. But then she has moments that like radio outside. Caroline's room moments grants like well. Yeah Yeah like you just push too far he snaps. That's so he's like well when the head of the Department Blah Blah Blah. So he's like with you. Talk to the Piston. And you'd have taken out enclaves on the floor of the front of that captain. That rock was on the floor. So the captain's just folding his arms disgusted. I mean tells us this Jesus Christ they have a day off and they come back fucking nuts. Yeah I'M GONNA go get a cocktail. I'm not doing anything about this 'cause anymore like God. Damn rain is you. Don't argue with a drunk but tomorrow we're going to have a county. Jesus meeting probably with the plane ticket. My aunt yeah so the gnashing still all all mad about the throat the close then. Brian is like I'm sorry Kate. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I think we're down here. I think we're down here. He's like I'm sorry done here because I don't want you in here. So he leaves and that she starts sobbing which is also weird. I actually didn't crazy. And then she he just like puts out her hand and Ice Castle start coming out of the ground ask like Elsa when Elsa is finally having mouth and I will make my entire palace of Crystal I. No one will ever come in here. Do you like that. Do you want to make a snowman and I mean meal that charter guess is actually like thank you. Do you want to build us now. A man now. We're in Thailand. We can't build smell answer snowman right here. Stupid lead singer so Ashton's up on that going crazy day you thank you I thank you and and that's the end. Yeah really intense so then yeah. I'm I'm really glad that I got myself so angry. That worked up during that upheld really like made me feel alive and tomorrow so we actually do not have our Orange County episode recap for tomorrow because we're going to save that for Denver hurt but we will have our Dallas episode later this week and Jersey in Seattle South Jersey Friday night Watch CRAPPING HAPPENS DOT COM to get links to tickets patriotic merchandise. Everything could possibly want comes in Seattle and Denver. There're still tickets available and of course do not sleep on on your San Francisco and Boston tickets which are going on sale on Friday but the pre sales happening now lots of amazing great stuff. Thank you all for tuning the ad listening etc.. We'll talk to on the next episode.

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243: Surviving The Games

Overnight Drive

1:37:33 hr | 11 months ago

243: Surviving The Games

"Not Give Tower has a low her. It must have met turnouts grand. NO RELEASE US go power school detector. He's no bullshit. Soccer report was sure all the now hey chaplain. Dr Drew. They'll be around who long heard them on the phone. Oh my God we just watched some local heroes. Yeah that's actually that's a great way to warm up for the PODCAST. Talk Shit balcon minute yeah and then you're good enough. We live in this town for too long. you start feeling like a little bit of a Townie but then you you see actual Chinese doing their thing. Fang and you're like no way yeah. There's there's great answer. You don't go far to find the thing that you really WanNa see I have maintained without being. They're getting sucked in. I just watched you try and pull the TAB off of that. Can you have such a compulsion of drinking and a Kansas. It's so wild and do it's going to happen. It's going to happen. We can't start the PODCAST. Will that tap comes off the red bull would avert. Is your drinking areas. Yes perfect. I pull tabs off every. Can I ever drank all the time no no. I don't know why because I if I'm in a party situation the Sensi was in highschool apart situation. I know it's Beers Mind Ben Ben but now I just do it and then when I get drunk nervous and I pick at it then I carved. Do you like a weird like channel into my thumbnail. That's oxen grows back. You WanNA use my jeweler's Loup to look at your channel. There's the jewelers blue is wow. No I don't need to I'm. I'm very good feel a splinter in my finger this morning the house so your your morning started with the Boom uh-huh yeah yeah. My Mondays are awesome. I don't have to do a fucking thing like everybody is back at work and feeling low and I just it's like I just can can kick around the house. Do Your Shit. There's a there's a coffee roaster near near acres and I'll I'll wake up and walk through the woods and I'll just walk out of the woods at the coffee roaster and you won't through the woods ago yeah I don't have to I could walk on the streets or more I could walk through the woods which is more fun. Do you ever find people in the woods or maybe the evidence evidence of camping around only that time with the where I was freed the homeless people were chasing through woods but no for the most part I I don't see anyone. There's there part of it is a path though like you walk through the woods then you get to a path and then you see people and you got like there's there's a lot of a lot of olds around here and they gotta stay mobile so they get out early and they get on the path and they start working it out so I gotTa say Good Morning to a lot of olds. Do you have to say good morning morning no. I I could just walk past but you know trying to build community here. We're trying to build. We're trying to build a community here as the beginning of I want to wait song yeah. That's my the entirety of my life right. Now is the beginning of a one hundred saw. The one of the New Yorker documentary is like and that's one thing the noman can take away being mingming being being never seen the New York documentary. I gotTa Watch is going to say we. We're GONNA have to watch. She says it's really not great at all but we can watch edge of quarrel. Oh Yeah I haven't seen that since that night with a too loud ATV fucking sociopathic behavior fucking sleep worst neighbors ever bad really good house robot we are working men yeah. I I did my my game. Can we just say game. That's to say join join. I guess whatever I'm pretty forward about what I do. I don't know what you do but I do. I do have some game play games. I've looked at it today. Basically you plan yeah. No I'm on do I play football. It's fine but as my best game I watched it finally a work to looked great. You recorded the game to watch later. No it was on Youtube interesting highlights. I should do that really good because I to play the game. We both play the game. We like to survive the game. Surviving can't find surviving the game not in German. It's really stressful so if anyone say well the an MP four or av I leaving the game that they could send me what you're talking about. The movie or the song buys t the movie with ICE T. O. Surviving the game. The only way out is suicide yet. I can't find it. It's all always in German when I find it. Why isn't only injured. I don't know I don't know what ever watched watched that movie and as a result there's just one guy in Germany. WHO's like puts this on. CNN Nets German state of mind yeah now. I'm just stuck with it. That's it. It's probably probably gets arrested in Germany. They find it on his hard drive. Well yeah we'll really be. You'll get brought in May maybe have to stand trial. Now you know maybe they'll put their differences aside and they'll end up in couples court him and the State of German remember Couples Levels Court Al Couples Court was amazing talked about couples quarter. We did not now when Andrew and I were first being indoctrinated into what we do now. I'm playing the game. I was driving the game when we were initially. That was perfect initially. We're we're surviving the game and we stayed at a hotel with an h pretty nice right. Did we stay at a hotel or did we stay at a hotel. You say that hotel so we did say that yeah we did. We hotel and the other. Oh tell was so nice that it had a little L. S. elation both downstairs you could weird chairs the chairs and you could sit and watch television and sign in the peace and silence and the only television that was on was like weird unemployed. TV like couples courts the best thing ever about couples quotas made no oh sense because this is just couples who have troubles and they're putting them on trial but there's no law against like cheating or like like I don't want. It wasn't divorce court. No it was it was a cross between divorce court and couples therapy. It was a couple of third therapy administered by judge judge right and it was not a judge. That's the other aspect of urges him to judges who are a couple. It's wild. It's great. If you could find couples court yeah do it do Mondays. Couple's quarters definitely a weekday morning and show I should just wake up early and looking catch couples. Go Walk into the woods. Get my coffee. Comeback Couples Court Couples Court Planet Fitness now couples court is like the judge Joe Brown like more Povich type deal however it's way better than all that shit because they have double case reminds Manson's photos to other woman women women multiple. He said she said his fiancee was shot actually cheating on her and the next hospital oh room women sheets on another woman boy you looking at it right now. I am right wife has plus size model goal. I are we just like I don't remember a lot of these watched a lot more than I did but now I haven't watched it a lot of couples unfortunately but it's a great show so I mean our recommendations accommodation's of the best and I've been told by of people the Greg Hardy that are couples are are couples are gone are couples of the best of the best yeah couples sir can weather any storm. We should do dating site dating. I don't think I I think I don't know how many people manage to Anita zone a lot but I don't think the staying power was there. Mona now fall yeah yeah. No I had a few few laps apps some people on the the zone there but it's still exists. It's not like it's gone. It's just you know it's maybe like discord server doing. I haven't been on on that in a minute in doing so weirdos on there talking. Oh I wanna I wanNA give places for people to talk. That's all all we do. Are you concerned about the fact that my twenty year old hard drive is making upsetting from below the desk. You know it sounded. It sounded like there was a low low flying plane. I will bring your Senate right talking about all right so I have this hard drive that I've had. I've been dragging it from apartment to apartment for years and I plugged it in a few days ago and it started to make lake. I'm old noises all right. Hold on yeah exactly so I sound like all right. We'll talk. I don't WanNa lose all the shit. That's on here. I get rescue mission. Call Seal team six eh new hard drive in transferred over get a new hard drive plug it in before I leave on a four day trip to go survive the game game. I I said it to just copy everything cool. I turn off the Computer Monitor. I walk away. I don't think about it again and fast forward four days later. I come back to the house. I throw my bag down triumphant this is I I look the newsroom I looked up navy. Seals music says what happens turn on the Monitor and it's still transferring files. It has been ninety six consecutive hours probably more of file transfer and it's like good news. There's only only roughly two days left mother fucker so it finally finished. I duNNo. It's a few minutes before you got out here and then I just moved to a different location and now it's making the the sounds that made me nervous in the first place so it seems like it just at the right time. Now it'll be fine. I just kind under descent sounds like it sounds like What is it sounds. It sounds like it sounds like a fucking. Look an old tiny coffee perk. Yes yes that's. It sounds like a like a like an old really old curic in the office of the temping in now I guess yes. I'll have a cup of coffee and it's like taking forever. You're using the coffee using coffee. I there was while surviving the game. I missed a play because the coffee maker was taking too long. Wow I mean luckily didn't make a difference but just the same. We survived the game every week. Yeah we should. I don't want to turn this into the surviving. The game casts and we'll we'll we'll leave it alone but basically are couples are the best is is really the moral of the story. This is this Nisa which is what we do. Remember the video of the guy who tipped. Dj Table over right afterward the MC said hold up. Don't worry don't WanNA leave. This is what we do and I always use that. This is what we do. I always say that that was wild. That guy actually getting a lot of trouble for for assaults really think so yeah long long long long time ago. I tried to get him on the podcast and I was always in jail. How do crazy shit but I'm back work. Always I'm always driving. I'm always tryin an got weird chippendales and Shit and empowers ship. We didn't actually got power yet. We just like we just got the okay from which is awesome awesome. It's great to I think like I'm the weird person where like the okays enough just like Oh. It turns out. He was like he know about US awkward. Just you are Cimpian notice me and said so you just you just want to be noticed by said Pie eyed by Ed Pie noticed me. It'll just be a situation will be like hey. We're GONNA get on tonight so you better get near the horn. He's like Oh sure got nothing to do and nowhere to go so be like when you were doing bus. Stop tails. What was it like to Seduce a woman at the bus. Stop and bring her to your studio. You really really should do an interview with him. That's just hideous. That's you know what I mean. That's just talking about the gross things he wanted to do. An interview with him that goes was fully beyond the Pale of modern sensibilities like like what I like. I want it to be very toxically masculine. You know what I mean like that. That's what I'm looking for like. I I want people to listen and wonder if they can download the next episode. I think that would be my dream. I want people Louis without prejudice. George Michael One said like George Michael One said to people. I don't think people get prejudiced. I think we've I think we've shaken off a lot of losers. Living so like losers aren't really coming Addison questions anymore. Losers aren't lake. No one's accused us of fucking anything ridiculous lately. I think we've shaken off. A lot of these people has been accused of having ridiculous. I got accused of ridiculous shit along the way really yeah what could accused of being alt-right you took the brunt of the alright the right wing and Omega what's happening to you. Although I are so I we we got we got plans work and eating on along on the podcast Andrew. I'm chomping on the laws for my throat thirds. Put you in an Eric from Patrick's podcast together and you guys can just sit and eat on on the puck perfectly didn't eat so so we got shit going on that. We're ideas. We're kicking around for most people cuffing season for us. It's ideas uh-huh. Yep Large grandiose ideas that drag us down into into debt last year we got. We got comfortable grandiose identity. It was a winner the Canadian that's true. It was so good so I was listening back to an old episode while I was on on a plane no which one working it was actually so I think of I think of overnight drive as starting strong and then having kind of a lull kind of this directionless like we don't really know where we're going kind of thing. Once a month recording there wasn't much of a narrative to it it was just kind of happening and then picking up hitting a little bit of a wall a little bit later on and then going strong and like I said I think it was last week or the week before I've been been like. We've been going pretty strongly that I look back and I'm like Oh this era of going strong lasts like well over a year to sell like okay so we got Shitsus good so I listened to one of the what I would call the lull episodes and a better than I remember remember the elephants being which is good but be man. I looking back. I I love that I get to change change and grow as a person yeah because when I go back and I listened to shit I said and things I cared about like five or six years ago. Yeah it's real wild. It's Sir. It's IT'S A it's a little scary in a bit pathetic but I love. I love getting better some nice got. I love imminently like me you you me. Oh my God I listen back per person I talked to a friend of mine said I was listening back old episodes and I said look fly and like oh you're so much different yeah and I was like yeah for for the better I can only hope five or six years. We're both equally as as weird and alienated from our current selves. Oh my God yes we. I think we're going to only GONNA get better. Things can only get better and I think that now with those old I mean I wasn't old episode. Sometimes just for reference this was this was like Al Statue era. Oh by the dark age so I posted notices pre real like real medication name Eh. I'm just SORTA Kinda thrown at a wall medically to see what works yeah now the the Guinea pig era wow that was really bad the as a really bad that time that was when we were just like ramble but better than I remembered it sure because we're fucking fucking best. I yeah you know at the time I don't think I thought it was bad at the time but I think once things got better than that. It was notable to me that there was there was a dip happen in quality of course maybe it was just different. Qualities never dipped. We've always been very good broadcasted us. Maybe episode one naming but I'm going to look at broadcast but the I think we just have better ideas. We've grown our brains of matured. I see why you're using lozenges because for a second there you sounded like the old lady from beetlejuice. That's supposed to help them against the mature as you are. Bob Rates. I have the phone some of us without being fell on some you sick you get sick. No Eric Not at all I was you know why I my my voice. Yes singing along to spotify on the way home from wow all right. I was expecting that when we left football yesterday that you went out in like now went to a club. I know I did not I was very punked out and they just left and I got a cow. Zona went to bed zone well. I didn't think you wanted one. I did not what you're you know. You're not gonNA prison. I would advise into account zone unless we were both drinking heavily. Yeah no no it's it's all good but I had to use the bathroom really badly so I went across the street to post and gave them false hope that I was gonna order something and then I was just like he's the bathroom and then I felt bad and I got a beer and surveys. There's the instagram bathroom and then there was people there and they're like Oh. Hey Uh how's it going right then about a beer by myself and I stood there and chugged it as like me narrowly chucked it and I gave the tip and then I left you know that's what we do and then I went back to reality cows zone by myself all alone with nothing but a cow zone in my lab cal zone in like a like an old movie starring Chuck Connors. Honestly Yeah No oh I think it was no I was been really an animal interference videos like a lot play and the animal in the field hall but there's like a forty minute compilation now which is my favorite so it's like everything from like the game repeat rose picks up the black cat and they're don't do it really good. Wow this youtube. Premium man has got raw. Just don't stop. I fucking I listened to it every morning. Now no no down low so good. There was a point when I had where yeah I would wake up and I would use youtube like the morning news. He's like my mother would like turn on the news. She gets ready in the morning like fucking. WNYC cards yeah but it's always like early early in the morning. You don't get the new stuff you get shit. That happened yesterday but I I gave up on it a little bit. I stopped paying for it. Stopped opt stopped using it as much. Stop paying for you to more you we have I guess I could. I don't WanNa fuck up that Albo with my weird shit though because my wild wild ass though there's a lot when I was looking at Spencer Carter. There's a lot of searches for Spencer Carter. Spencer Carter is weirdly popular. Mike Spencer Ricardo dislikes. We must have had one video that went viral and then everybody is kind of like I guess because there's videos of about him by other. I assume other autism expensive. Carter needs to stop complaining about Susan was yeah. I think it's hard as reaction Dan Carter Mas- Spencer Carnival Carter and I am Mad Spencer Carter and now emergency youtube into video emergencies. I call out the corruption. MVSA YOUTUBE I do call up just. Bs and corruption my reputation as a contact career always on the line is true faith speech once again. Youtuber Jones Carter has an attitude problem final the message yeah. I'll put the link on the description. I'll video was I was going with an audio file. Our corruption is not the norm from Alabama being the CEO Eeo. She ruined you to his so called video. He go get them all sensor stupid. I call out the BS his so-called video. He's going to green Polo shirt. Oh what the hell happened to protect youtubers. What the hell happened to commonsense who he is mad? We all know no dog. The bounty hunter is a racist white man named Jerry Nineteen Seventy six Texas do your research and unfortunately he got a slap on risk as a result he got banned from Great Britain in two thousand twelve. Johnny Hunter got banned from Great Britain and two thousand twelve. I guess yes dog. The bounty hunter use a racial slur years ago. I did my research now. You do yours about his late wife. Beth Chapman or is not aww fun work but I lost some of my family members of cancer over years dogged bounty hunters actions and nineteen seventy six or the murder of the name name of God. Jerry was Karma coming back to the bounty hunter so it was Karma coming back to uh-huh fucking ever had on here. Okay all right to recap. Beth Chapman dying is is Karma for more racial shed after nineteen seventy six but it's Karma for him being a racialist or a race realist depending on who you talk to San Harder south. I'm sure he encounters a lot of people. Who have those views wow. How long has that video. Where not it's a tem? Are you kidding ten. Fucking Mido only two minutes getting criticized for this my Karma beliefs I know Tariq. Nasheed got criticized as well. I saw replies on his twitter page correctness. I'm sorry he was again. I do believe in Karma and the worst day fruit is not hate this fucking drink really just going through. The ghetto boys ref. I still live with my parents. Okay today is my mom and step Dez wedding anniversary broken about her husband husband being a racist and killed Jerry Oliver in nineteen seventy six and he was grew up not accusing Doug bounty hunter of murder in nineteen and seventy seven Spencer. Wow this is what I miss his hot motherfucker motherfucker out here. This is where I miss the the simplicity Fenwick and I need him to come back to us new. I haven't seen any pop up upright now under some feds real quick here he's just his voice is like oh boy. I'll have set up properly next time when you come over. I'm really botched it. I showed up early. I I guess I decided that it'd be better for me to lay in bed and watch wolf than it would to get things together you do. I might be depressed. We're looking into it Andrew. We have to go out and have a nice meal all right come on man that'll solve every two to let's go to Texas Day Brazil Bullshit. We can go and Uday bring you the state of eat. It and you don't even care how much it 'cause hundred dollars. That's fine all right. That's great. Nothing feels better than spending a little money on yourself westwood. We're going to nine eight and you're driving shit. It's all right car crashes through the lobby at Forty Fives Plaza in Westchester New York. Yes all right. Take it away Ryan when it happened. A car bomb Tom last night too bad. I'm forty five wasn't in the building when it happened a car crash in Westchester County in New York on Tuesday night. One person was injured and another person was injured. That wasn't in the building new Rochelle. Police said it appeared to be an accident. Tapia's news reporter Tony posted video from the sand show and the damage and cleanup traded residents are coming and going Dr Grow Long Body Long Hair beer another should norman contractors got her. He was sitting in a chair. He was bleeding maintenance worker. Kevin Jenkins told TBS New New York dog all the time. This is kinda crazy to see the where the car careened into the heavy glass doors kill Orlean Johnson. You wonder if somebody walk my dog L. Muslims to stop your dog. What a fucking stopped the car. I won't last night workers at forty. Five positive new Rochelle's say carpeted to lobby the driver got out a the get out and sit on the SOFA. The new newish open at forty story luxury billing DEVANTE CAPPELLI enterprises underlining kill with forty organization builds Republican spin the story and say that it will the situation. Let's let's figure out who the drivers voting for little little thin so fin soup ride. You catch everything that happens at this point. It was probably like a month and a half ago. There was that woman who got into the argument with the guy at the checkout counter wine which one are so this woman who is some form of lawmaker. I don't WanNa say Georgia got into an argument with some guy the checkout Kenner honor because she had too many things in the ten items or less and so as they should get blown up for them so. She said that he started screaming. Go back to where you come from but but then it turns out that the guy is a Cuban Democrat who voted against trump and she held a press conference and there's just walked up up in the middle of the press conference is like here I am I guess great it was really good and at once it became clear that it was a little bit of a race hoax they they swept that under the rug called today race unreal. It's a Guy Atlanta now. It's totally elite. One hundred percents six at the buy new fixtures switched them off and on. That's what went out listeners voice it just went out and took like twenty years before eventually got it on and then I mentioned stay on for ten minutes and then turn off and it was not the land on the Sofa with just a little socket thing so I gotta know socket replaced now. It's working you industrious. My uncle uncle fixed. I think you put a forty one that prefer the brighter waits for me to sell my vision windows back to be able. We'll see a little bit better. I WANNA get next time I go out. I want to get a level live on people's recall also watch this already because every time the go-to target and lamps and they're like seventeen dollars like like he's like extend my money on other seventeen nineteen dollars man. I get tough they don't. I don't think they have a a again. How would I say if I lived in town. We don't have a target in our municipality. I I take out Walmart. The walmarts gotTa have Lance Right. I think so we should call him out. You guys have lava lamps. My friend who is in mortal combat with her next door neighbor just texted me like nine times so hopefully none of them are help finish him. These are people fighting over lawn signs like like vote for vote for Sheriff Apple. Oh my God sheriff. We got a lot of lamps at Walmart. Absolutely what are we got. How much are they GONNA. Walmart salsas plasma balls to I never had one as a kid I was wrong. Yeah those are so so Colorado Spencer's and I used to touch it and my dad was George electrocuted sixteen ninety nine for a plasma ball. Why don't I have one of these. They should I get an apartment and just make it the apartment that I would have wanted when I was seventeen yeah. Christmas missed lights up fucking posters of dumb tax yeah absolutely all right and they do that. I think you should it's GonNa be great the war she ever going to get an apartment in every room is going to be the the apartment. I wanted at a different era of my life perfect so like the ten year old room would just have posters of guns and roses up on the wall like I think when I was ten years old I had a poster of the cats the cats the cast of cats no it was the cast of young guns to God. I wanted to sort of fair. yeah all right. I got I got a new plan here but in the ten year old room I'll get the creative motion seven inch plasma ball. You really should my father's electrocuted and I can't touch that. Lava lamps are thirty two nine ninety nine ninety nine for lava lamp. I mean Ryan Ryan Ryan Booby. I'm your weight Nate's okay. What's my mobile just send his teeth solicits vinyl. Watch your address. I love and I I wonder if you could just text him from a number thirty to know. What's your address if he would respond you'd like Blah. Blah Blah Blah why there's never respond and then like to ah two hours later a love lamb shows up courtesy of all of your fans around the globe love us and he'd be like wall. Why should keep doing this starring. I don't WanNa wait till alive. Oh I don't do that either but I don't want to be mad weird but like we do have his address we already did the stock like yeah our our defense. A bunch of our fans are like here it is. I just dachshund for you and I was like great. Thanks Sunday suntrust banks nothing. I'm going to do nothing unless we drive out there which is still on the table. I thought that was my computer like Oh interesting computers playing the soundtrack twin peaks now. Tommy was sort of beating up the philly fanatic we could we could start just sending sending him really nice clothes with no return address. Oh and they do the video and and have a really nice beep Leslie Harrington Jacket foul little. Look with a local Polo underneath a recruit some Levi five thirteen little stretchy because if I got a big body but they look good you know like dark dark. Denham like nothing into fancy we send him a suit and a crisp white shirt with no tie like real European style. Oh yeah maybe like a nice burberry. Brit McCann entry level Cologne get used to wearing Cologne coming. It'd be perfect in America video. mazing people are sending me reason. I honestly I don't like how it smells. Fuck mother mother suspicious like who's sending you all the stuff. Are you doing jerk. Audio's never do that and then I was then. We open a channel for them back to fifty people waiting to see you beat it go. You'd be like all right. I got I got that new lightbulb busy and then he's fucking cuffs one that takes them way too. Long and people don't like how much longer we have to watch the buck. I love how you look. Stud awesome meet. Can you send things from Amazon without a return address. You probably can't right. Just make your return addresses ups store that you don't have you can make your return address the through location of a Amazon box. I found that out to that really yeah interesting. It's pretty sweet. I order to watch online order to watch online days. I'm really moving on up. Do you WanNa do you WANNA. Tell the world what your watch. Let's keep it a secret okay but the secret is a little pricey. Okay price rush get escaping Rolex Pepsi or look at that all right from about forty five grand and I fucking watch might have gotten taken confirm. If I'm being honest spent forty five grand that a Rolex Pepsi you might have ice fucking. I bought a Casio Watch. I can't find it anywhere and broke mind line broke so I bought it and I also bought extra batteries for because I'm a lunatic I do. I bought my brother a citizen. Oh my John Real commercial with ally manning you lay manning was citizen man for a minute and then they found out he wasn't a citizen but all right. How do I put this. You can put a citizen watches are not it fancy. Do you know what I mean. Are you till they seem like they are 'cause. There's like billboards. It's like an Elvis. You can buy see them at what fucking macy's like you know like at a at a counter and it seems like they're fancy. They're not that all but my brother acted as though I bought him a Rolex Pepsi. It was very strange like the reaction was very very outsized for what it actually was which was eighty courts watch that can abusive commercial to great commercial that guy in the elevator the door closes and that's that's the man I wanna be. That's the man I know. That's a whole the or these guys in the cowboy hats should I should. I Buy Cowboy hat twenty. I'm in remember you can get him for twenty bucks at a truckstop. Yeah I am in Arlington Texas surviving the game this upcoming weeks so glad we call the surviving hang glad I'm trying really really want to take the trip and go down to the branch Davidian compound or where it was. I don't know if I'll have the time but it'd be cool if I could. Andrew hasn't creation of excellence in time the South I'm really getting into watch commercials lately like watch commercials finest modern style craftsmanship. I I wondered this might be why like watches watch commercials like when those jokes they were wild l. because everyone's fucking Bharadwaj that Burwood box that watches in it's probably cost more than the fucking Saco LaSalle cycle the sound man. Let's see what's next those who plays next when you when you were a kid when I was a kid there were just watch commercials on during like Saturday morning cartoons uh-huh and shit like better like during wrestling and yeah they they did seem very covetable. Rondo dies Tom on the total Switzerland protected by crashproof mental and Sapphire Crystal almost as hard as Dr. Love this little just precious Rondo motion for fucking fantastic tastic corner. I Love Tornado Corner. Remember to review worked TURANO corner tornadoes. Still there men still still kicking. You know ooh sorry Jim Cornet on why he finally quit. WCW Don't WanNa play that not not we're good. ALGA was awesome. I could just set it and forget very very excited to go back and re watch those commercials now that I know where they are in the I'll go. I'll make a while we're eating a Texas Day Brazil. I will make a watch commercial partial list on drive. I love that right just for you. Anything will lift your spirits pal right yeah. They got seven tax second really have to make it clear that my spirits are okay. He just said you're depressed yeah but not really like Oh. Everything's good. You are worried worried about me because I was tight when you walked in. I was taken by surprise got worried about a friend saying everything's good. I'm sorry happy sure you yeah. That's what people say. I'm totally fucking happy now. 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You would expect to pay hundreds of dollars or more for the superb offer but it's yours for only twenty nine ninety five. That's right twenty-nine ninety-five our timepieces come home with a full one year warranty and have. I watched her watch video. Start is like no this is the best part of the wild west of cable television because I I told my mother the other day when Eddie money died. There was a video from nineteen eighty nine. I I believe of him perform. He was really drunk. I think I showed it to you. and my parents bought that on pay per view in one thousand nine hundred nine because they're in real father's really any money. Although I talk about Eddie Money Dying Lockheed care and he's like I remember him like he was fucking in. This would be like if buster poindexter died and fucking genie was like instead of being who's hot. WHO's how Jamie's hot right right. I remember this Guy Jamie for some reason. I'm fixated on. WHO's hot. Jamie's that'll the state when my grandfather still lawyer but but I remember when he first started and he was little. I won't say go guy because I don't know for sure because I was only a child. Mild you saying men who listened. Buster poindexter on repeat on Vinyl got up in repeatedly moved Sandal yes and showed off his Mercedes yeah and shouted who's hot. Jamie's hot all night you telling me this man might have just been operating normal. It's fine. It's like Miami Vice Man. You know it's totally fine. It was just of the era totally fine yeah. That's some so glad you remember that. It's among my favorite overnight. Dr Who's DOC Jamie's hot. Jamie's heart convincing at as a child. I probably eighty seven ten and it was like I remember. I'm him like convincing like James. James just ticu leading wildly about this knows like everybody was in a hot hot hot with family with this. That was the fucking Song of the summer right there Goddamn. It sounds still song summer however Brown yet. There's a terrible bugs in this room and I wanted to capture it but I just haven't had the goal ass together. Stones sounds the open the cage yet yeah not enough to open the cage. King Horse Great Band member King Horse so mobile hardcore. You're not man enough to open this great same. Okay great okay so I was talking about. My parents bought that concert the whole concert on pay per view and wow wow like so cool. That cable allowed us to do that. Cable was my babysitter. My parents got cable. My past fucking couldn't put two dollars together. My mother was barely working but they got fucking got cable man like eighty six or eighty no equipped because we wash live aid and had to be like eighty four eighty five summer eighty. I five. I think we've got fifty channels. I remember it so vividly young but I remember so vividly. I was like music and that was the first time that I looked looked at. Somebody and I was like this is like the coolest person I've ever seen in my life. I don't know why but it was just like when that indelible sort of like unimpeachable coolness was just evident and I didn't know why like a child like yeah. That's that's a cool guy any money but you don't know why it's like it just looks cool and like it was made possible because the cable on all this other crazy stuff because of cable. I've like I I this is going to be the cable love affair for sure we got cable for Christmas we get cable and a new TV for Christmas me me and my brother got back up from going to see our family on Christmas. Eve were Italian. We got up and there was a note from Santa Claus. It was like I got you new TV and I hooked up cable for you and they'll say Santa. Claus property is theft. I'm a I'm a rapidly aging man. I remember this fucking vividly like there was a life changer right there but cable was so like knew knew that remote controls didn't like there was no infrared remote control so the the cable box was I. I must talk about this on here. The hawks was giant. VCR sized box with nothing on it and then on the back back. There was a really long like I'm talking like a fifty foot cable attached at the other end of the cable was this I can't even describe it was it was like the size of a book and it just had thirty six buttons and switches on it and you use this as the remote control to to change the channel it was amazing the buttons clicked and then sets where people start calling it the clicker ham hock okay what TV cable TV we now. I remember what linked to the Gerald cable box. Show J. R. O. L. D. find us and then we got. I remember we got rid of our Gerald. That's all for you arts some local shade being thrown. Gerald and then we got to Texas instruments for awhile there on the Game Jerrell all cable box yeah see where we're yes. It is vintage Gerald American Bible box should by that by yourself feel better it is. I remember vividly remember Bert. We had a cigarette burns lower right hand. Corner father didn't see you. I think you got the boot. I mean not no no shade on your parents but I think you've got the bootleg cable because we started right out of the gate Gerald Impulse we'd Cable Vision. I've been cable vision was around for the cable. Vision does own the market for so long and innovate that is exactly exactly when the remote remote and that we have the we have the Gerald Impulse Dam which was like the best console you could get my parents really went all out because you've had Emmanuel on top but then you also have the remote control without a cable and I would oh my God what I remember. We had to put the the fucking remote because it was cost a lottery place we had about the remote on top of the TV at night or when we weren't using it because we couldn't break it. Forget it. Actually actually we might have had this one because I remember the button I remember the kiss. The numbers being printed on there this was in this weird looking over here like if channel thirty four came in bad you'd use this failure to leg in dial harold and I mean on this same TV we had the Gerald cable box and we had the commodore sixty four burned. This is fucking mental. I remember that we would pivot because it was on channel we would turn the TV TV channel three and then we can watch over the wanted but then we would also turn to UHF to wash Canadian television because of your so far north. It's Nice I remember now for cable. Why was really early adopter like really early adopter of Nickelodeon like pre. You can't do that on television well. They had a bunch of clips shows like like I don't even know that show from Canada call today special today's special yeah. I remember they also have the little prince which is DC. I remember little print. Yeah Inspector Gadget Studios. Dic they also did the little prince the Little Princeton outer space ace an out of her heard the story. I think it's the I see the of the guy who started the icy. Then you get fucked over heart or something like that now. He's an actual chill visionary. I gotTa send you the link to. I'm not going to try and tell the story in here because I don't remember his name but he is fascinating to listen to he was like I just want to be a millionaire. So I just kept throwing shit at the wall all eventually I started this cartoon company and here we are really wild. One thing pinwheel would be on you. Don't have to watch nickelodeon shit a Turkey Turkey. TV was like weird clips for adults that was put on children's programs so it would be like oh cartoon and then a Dana carvey stand stand up skit. Oh Wow and then like trump buckle. Lee Remember Dana carvey terrible skip but the theme song went a little something went a little something thing like this or to as he was quoted later to do Thurman Turkey showed up on the fucking Massachusetts where can process spotted from the to the whole heard about those buildings about but I remember it like maybe kids should be spoken to adults. Maybe that's how maybe speaking children adults best parenting. My parents did as treat me like an adult would just sit there with everybody else party and have a Saint Patrick's Day party of is sitting there Chilin. It's crazy and they make Irish soda bread when I need it sounds good as hell yeah and I tried to ghostbusters on. They weren't having it now. We're memory Wayne hearing. I remember watching live aid man. They even know what it meant but here we are. I watched something I might. Maybe it was live. Yeah I something like that. Mars is like okay remember when in live Evan Bob Geldof was like the fucking money now. I don't remember God I gotTa Find Man. Gil's give us your money. Give us your fucking money and suddenly those two up and coming young that it might make gender video dancing in the streets they make they made that especially for live aid don't be before. They made them very close. Excuse fucking like an FRAC- shake on the compliments who just give us a million pounds so thank you up until the the other thing. Is that making David did that video specifically so that you could give something and it's not happening. You know you've got to get on the phone phone and take the money out of your pocket. Don't go to the tonight. Please stay in on give quality. There are people dying Tau so give me the money and here's the number I know that's that's the numbers on international television address switched to these people here are like Bill Young Billy Connolly the count the comic a couple of other people mid your they don't care like oh Bob Geldof fucking thing I wanna be on tour when people say when people are asking for things and they see people are literally dying say who and where don't just be like. Oh yeah sure the people died say who and where also Oh. This is something very fucking. What's the word I'm looking for very very of the moment if someone is using a child to try and convince you of something it doesn't matter what like how you feel about it. Don't do it ever outcome on anytime anyone ever a uses a child to convince you of something they are trying to manipulate. You doesn't matter if it's the right thing to do at a wrong thing if they are pushing a child front and center of something. Get the fuck out of there. Get the fuck outta anytime anyone is telling you to fuck in that there's only an A. or B. Option find the fucking exit. Get the fuck outta there. What are you doing get get go. We got happening ceremony block when commercials as with the dog okay yeah so no get the fuck out no seriously the kitten. They're putting this bear with the pigtails. In everything you uh-huh get the fuck out of there what you doing. You're doing it wrong. Hey Andrew Professional fundraiser for years and I would you employ those tax yeah. Yo Don't do it listen. It doesn't matter if someone is trying to get you do the right thing. It doesn't actually actually make a fucking different because you're capable of doing the right thing without being fucking manipulated by putting crying children in front of you. You are infinitely sensitive sensitive to crying children. You don't have an option about this. It's in your fucking. DNA It's baked into you. It's like it's no different than being hot not in the Sun. It's just bear there you go Get the fuck out of there and anytime and trying to do some shit like that you you just get find the door find. The exit doesn't make a difference. Get as far away from it as you possibly can. It's anything anything that's how you made an oil the refrain I mean we gotta make an edit of this. It doesn't have all this bullshit here and we can just fucking fade right into it but wow. I've never seen you so fired up. Feel all day just been laying in bed watching people use who's crying children to like make them shut down. Did you watch pornography. Maybe I should maybe I should backed up. Maybe the I should've watched pornography instead of whatever it is the the climate strike but go get out. You know what I do in every morning. What's that do I watch pornography and pleasure my saw. So is that right before work. Wow I'm up at five forty five but like at five forty five year like I'm I'm greg doubt by going wow interesting. That's impressive. You want to waste a heart on did five forty five. I can't do shit what if what if a lover woke you up and was like now is the time no good arise. Go back to bed. Oh my God I would roll right over right then I don. I'd be like a good for you know no talking now. I I would sit up there like what can then. I would go back to bed Andrew. Oh I remember when people used to be like Oh my God and my God it's still happening. The neighbor fight is still well. It's great. It's good maybe WANNA silence. Your phone or Bronx probably fellowships early. Shit anyways We've been going on for a little while now. Would you like to read some misconceptions. Yes so producer Hannah I would who's means. We've gotTA take this photo. Oto off my desktop which is sad but okay. That's cool now. Do you think that we should always use when it takes off thinking about that on the way home today. Eh What are you. Have you gotten into an alternate yet. No not at all I'm saying in the future and I guess some polling the rest of the audience. Should we keep going with it. Takes it all or should we find a new who song and then we could audition other songs. Maybe we should just do it right now. Should audition other song. You try something else all right how about expose yourself kids by cajal strong. You know someone's trying to use you use a child's to convince you to expose yourself to them. Get the fuck. Outta okay all right. I'm also Ozzy Osborne sure. I'm a priest all right all right okay right. Everybody MS connections you. If you think these are gonNA work. You got another thing coming asshole pretty good pretty good. I hit the post those good head right all right here we go here. We go miss connection. If you think that you know there's a lot of people out across the world who who their little shot out in the dark. I know this is a shot in the dark but I love you very much and I saw you online at target and I just want us to have babies together kind of thing. Let's connections pretty good really good. I'm out. That's a soft spot for that song the soundtrack to live disconnections and you're on a bit of a rush don't let us subdivide divide your interest. Wow here we go is miss connections for the new generation. Okay don't mind us. We're just recording. Bumpers are now you gotta wait till they're legal. She can't be seventeen but if she's eighteen good Harada miss connection about it I saw value in line and you just look like turn. Eighteen fingers crossed. You are if you knew the thought they had about. You stepped on them. Not Noga Canoga Deck Damn. This is just from what I've listened to you. Tonight can say you're. You're pulling these up suspiciously quick. God this connections. This isn't for the faint hearted because if you think is GonNa work my friends you are ahead of heartbreak rough pre-take so perfect so far all right subject shot the dark subject matter really does work with the way it's all cock rock I could I could go somewhere else yeah. We're you know time light. Some candles turn off the lights porcelain wine. Get Out your laptop. Rats Miss Connections with Dick. Look in your hand loser. That worked pretty. Well at what's what's up. Oh my God you're so awesome. This connections for the new generation can't do this if that video all of the guy playing saxophone to this yeah very funny earlier Internet thing but as fully ruined the song for me. That's true all right last one. Are we gonNA gotta try honest yeah. We're GONNA get dirty work the dirty work of reading connections and hoping that these people find love or at least somebody because times are hard and we're all afraid afraid to pay the fee now good song yeah really good one more one last one just one last. I wonder if they do that. Shit live still if they just fucking retired it. It's even abandoned anymore still fucking what's his name role in through there the budget jobbers Bernard Party. They fucking wheel the corpse out true. Roy Area this is this is what's up. Steve Winwood fans this connection. They're all written by Steve Winwood good right now we have to do the live live premier might be. Let's give it a shot at a week. freaking chair below almost bought a new chair. I didn't buy one of those gaming chairs that look like like Halo. Absolutely gotTA The complicated one of us want to repeat it connections when a new Song Valerie by Steve Winwood and see one would not as cool Sammy Hagar but we're going to give it a shop and if you have any ideas as to what was used for our a new theme song but it's No and if we should stick to the winner takes. Oh that's cool to cigarettes and coffee cigarettes and coffee alone alone. I dream about it still only to wake up and realize it's not real people make mistakes we both did. I have forgiven you. Can you forgive me. I remember falling leaves running through haunted houses. Jack and Sally Aiding into the night I remember the is castle standing tall and beautiful the small box. They gave me hope for a second chance. Please give forgive me so he may forget cigarettes and coffee and you know the computer wrote that really bad. I don't like the song now l. somewhere not working big over there okay over their windows user here the Greenland there you go through this show right now is. I'm getting an eye exam. Other makes me sad that you've got reading glasses. I have to do with this well. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Make our is better. I just wanted to come God. We're back all right now and now everything. It feels right. I'm going to read this one. That was a vigorous them cigarettes and coffee cigarettes and coffee here Cologne. I dream about it still only to wake up and realize realized this. This song gives me power realized that real people make mistakes we both did you can do forgive me. I remember falling leaves running through haunted houses Jack and sally fading into the night. I remember ice castle standing tall. Buddha awful smallpox smallpox. How do we how would you be beautiful beautiful. I remember the capital Ice Castles then Tomlin beautiful the small box that gave me hope for a second chance. Please forgive me so I may forget cigarettes coffee you Andrew Andrew. We're GONNA move the microphone the phone down and now I'm not seeing Andrew. I think love is beautiful. Don't you do Andrew. I think about you every who des true. Beauty has me watching titanic on the regular Can I just WanNa hold you remind you of the the ethnic best best friends that I think dies in the moving deaths you deal how you doing today. Oh but goes beyond Liane Isreaeli maybe telling those only paid union scale the Kathleen accent. Don't refuse to learn accent accent. Call my Sagara on you. I just want and it's on a hold and a little show Biz talk for I want to hold and protect you from every peril girl I wanna I wanNA kill anyone that harms you how mutilate any soul that makes you cry. I WANNA give my all to you. Andrew through if you let me okay I'm not gonNA. Let you kill people. Are you asking permission to grant hill. Somebody who led cops me traffic like you know. My ex girlfriend is one of the worst people whatever my my wife I want. I don't want her dead you okay. I didn't know that you didn't want her. The debt is basically what God didn't now when it takes it all right if you let me message me if interested okay what is aren't always. I mean this is from Arizona where people are born with a meth pipe in their hand. Everybody just just fucking sun poisoning all the time right and they get like Carson Melanoma and their arms and they're like. It's okay chills moon smoke shop nine. Am Ninety. The Am nine hundred seventy am shop okay. That's somebody who slept all night. Hoping for cigarettes God this got to be something go outside to the front of their building and they're like everybody smokes the butts down to the filter. Aw Will you marry me. It was thought that it would be really cool. If Macho Man Randy savage. Would you work a little bit of like intelligentsia into what he says. He'd be like really mad. Maybe like the words of John Curious various what you meant in the words of done New England ilke thinking thinking. I've been reading in Reading Ed reading some literature and the bus have you have you watched the super cut cut of them talking about knocking down the twin towers. No wait randy savage. There was the tag team the Twin Towers. Oh my God that's GonNa be like I can't wait until the twin towers crumble. It's really really good so my. I'll see if I could find it. Go ahead and read this. I'll little research all right moon smoke shop nine. Am We were waiting for the moon smoke shop to open a nine am. You were a pretty woman with a nice smile. We made eye contact and smiled redundant. There will be the Little Red checkmark on their rear in our early mid forties. Okay pick one. We are in our early. Conforti those smiling. It happened so fast and everyone seems so busy to get where we're headed. I'd love to talk to you. If you see this or think it was you please contact me and smile and smile smokey chocolate hammer and you. I'm on here just like you but looking for wifey material. Please be adventurous as fuck. Wow look like a good wife should be. We'll never know what fucking crazy easy adventure. She's out on. You know we have about first second date and you're like still talking about yourself. like you know like you just want to like really really send it home. You're like of course I go hiking. I'm adventurous as Falker. Are you adventurous. Fuck are you into fitness and not afraid to eat eat. Can you handle nine. Inches of fun hit me up. But how does a woman know she can handle nine inches of fun also these this is your criteria for a wife as she's okay so the criteria number one. The venturous is fuck number two into fit. Get tell me one okay so you're agreeing all right so stop me when I some e win. This is what you look for in a Bra. Yes this is Brian and I'm I'm just guessing. Tell me if tell me when I hit I hit the wrong road here all right the wrong road and take the wrong wrong. Turn at the forty five. I'm GONNA get Dan. Rather podcasting a work number one. You need a woman who is adventurous. Fuck yes. I need a woman who's in a fitness fitness rock-hard body now get out of here. No you don't like a rock hard prison body if you if you're with a girl has really fitness then you've got to be really into fitness mocking. GonNa knowing true all right so no instantly you. I'm not saying don't like don't be fit but like Yeah Yeah No. I'm not trying to marry somebody into cross fit. You know what I mean like cross fit wedding alley tough mudder wedding yeah no no no no we just we ran six six miles through mud to get to our wedding night yeah now. We're not doing that. What I hear into fitness not afraid to eat. You're at Eh Clint Eastwood. Okay so you need a woman. WHO's not afraid to eat okay. That's fine. That's great. I mean having a woman who can handle nine inches the fun yeah. It's very important to me. Oh my God Andrew Outing himself as hung stunt God nine inches Jesus. You've got me beat by five inches. She's she's also adventurous as fuck. So what if I'm just into watching. Oh Wow she has they've. She's GonNa. Watch if you'RE GONNA. Watch me and her than she has to handle four inches a phone. I mean you yeah anyone who knows will meet at tough mudder color color wash where they throw the chalk on you. Did you get mad men. That's that really hit me up. Message me for picks females. Only please signed Mr de Mr Mr Las Vegas written by Roy from Siegfried and Roy. The siegfried got killed or not killed but he got really giant. Tiger so I'm sure he can't have homosexual sex with roy anymore. So there are a couple right. I don't enough they. I mean I think they are but I don't know if it's this like we're a couple. I got an might might be. They seem really would house hoping that there were a couple get out with all those tigers and they lived together and Shit like roommate. That's a real that's a real jagger. Bowie the fucking making a video for farm aid situation right there. The tiger that killed them was the tiger that turned a corner one day in southern fucking outside standing up standing up and he's like like this is my impression of the homophobic tiger and then they're like okay we we're going to do this new trick with our best. Tiger Tiger and then and then they're like we can't tell them why we can't use this tiger oh and then the first chance I guess he bites secrets neck he he you know he says the F. Dash Dash Dash Dash so I assume that they must have had people apple standing by with a tranquilizer to hit those those times. It was an elephant gun or yeah. Just some shit like that blast but these guys did this fucking show with with these tigers for like twenty five years. The guy on the gun was probably phoning it in so he probably had ten seconds whereas like wait what fucking doc in half drinking and free drinks Sinoe and shit wow he's like the dry heat the limo driver from Princess Di Yeah. We got a week to get the Guy Guy who shot the tiger that siegfried yeah podcast wow and then we break the news to him that why the tiger attacked him Yeah Adam into the militia the overnight Dr Militia exactly the wack pack. It occurred to me that I was reading something where people arguing that the second amendment then why wouldn't they just start a militia them like give it the bat militias then cool. I have one where are they. They're around. I think we you should sort of metal militia. We'll start whatever we require everyone whereas the odor which I think would cut them a member of a lot. I think we should start a local militia freaks and just go bar crawl and that's just what the militia does. I think it'd be fun. Everyone is our crawls plate. Carriers in like five eleven tactical gear sounds great. It'd be like Barak Tactical Bar crawl over ten navy seals stolen valor style. Everybody wears a suit yeah. Lou led by Lon Horiuchi Lawn. You know what I want to thank last week as I was leaving the compound I my car died came here jump. It was really nice of him so thank John. I know he's from the darkness he did. He's like I got you. I was like Oh man on the Steve. Harley was fucking gone. He was gone. He left the leaves the work at four o'clock doc every day. But where do you have to be. The Guy got to go. I have a shoot tonight and I was like Oh. You're doing that again. He's like man. I never stopped me. Go Bullshit anyways Free Zone Yours. I'm ready to have that F. getting pleasure well. She will be crying out. Yes yes yes more and more over and over ready now all daytime or early A. M. which is crying out. Yes she's carrying out more. She's crying out daytime or early. AM WEIRD AD you're. You're like Oh daytime early. Am Oh yeah daytime or early A. M. What's the name that's very depressing line for a to uh-huh Pekinese dogs people have control of their lives aren't looking for this woman to meet them at daytime or early. Am You know what I mean. There's there's something something not great about that. It is something that's up your alley. Okay something. I think you might have written okay. It's cold. I like to watch shit it me. It's written like a letter though all right hi. I am a female from IMF female baroness. I am female from European background all right. I have dark hair dark hair and what people consider attractive and hit so what's what's that like Maybe like a lot of cool little tattoos. Maybe like you know you're into like old email. You have faced hats fucking love turnstile. You like dealing void. Ed Visions really good. Fuck anti-iraqi like you've put on fucking m eighty three when you WANNA bone terrible. I am female from European back. I am female from European background. DACA and I'm up people consider a pill. If you and your partner want to add some spice to your sex live I can help. I like to watch. I don't participate well. That's no fucking fun as so like although if I if we can get into the king corner for a minute that is actually true to life one of my big things I drive. No I do like being gazed upon my. She's what you consider attractive. I mean yeah one fifty an hour. Though Oh oh yeah no contact me of interested or have questions I have questions couple yeah weeks not prostitutes that curiosity. What are you fucking scrooge mcduck. Doc you taking a bath in quarters here one fifty to do nothing yeah. How about you. Just come over. I'll give by dinner. Get Your guber Jesus Yeah Nana net. I don't do anything you are. You either Hook for you. Do Not Hook. There is no try. There's only do it's all right you gotta get down and dirty in the mud with all your other sisters and brothers whatever and them's and vast herds and then worked it in that's great exactly all your other. Zastava here who are like. I'm prompted fifty dollars. I'm I'm second Dick. I'm fucking fucking a stranger and motel L. on route seventeen in New Jersey. Whatever and your watching to strangers have sex for one fifty. It's great work. You can get it how she's driving down the industry man uh-huh and see not cool. NC State not cool give you thirty how `bout that give you thirty and then you'll be so turned on the on coming in anyway because we're fucking order a pizza great. Yes we have thirty seconds or less beautiful thirty minutes or less midtown town glory girl for action now midtown midtown. Can we get it. You're in midtown Jesus. We got a glory girl here. Lurk a girl Puerto Rican female in Manhattan with her own private setup in a secure apartment. We have an apartment congratulations slides through the wall. Oh I take care of the rest real woman with a fat pink badge here. Take all year milk and I'm going to venture guests here and say that there's some chicanery afoot and this is just an elaborate like freshdirect thing like you. You have to like put me like she loves milk and she put milk here and the guys that are your delays gallons of milk. After the show walk up all these stairs he's like you're just putting milk into this hall and it's actually the giants version and looking for a tattooed guy. I met you might Eh Midway State Park and I met this guy probably six. One sounds like me white early twenties. I've amy lots of tattoos and some staples in his head like a fucking mirror. Wow It's you. I never caught his name Andrew but I wrote a ride with him and his nephew hugh and cousin I would really like to find him wow so she this is from Long Island. Also where you're from. I it's on the southern interior expressway near Gilgo beach were they found Joel Rifkin dumping bodies. Don't go after this Guy Yeah. This is weird breath with staples in his head and with your staples name tag in your head girl that Gerbasi beer distribution distribution. Please don't take this wrong way. I was in there when you bought two twelve packs of twisted. If and you walk there I live close bys well. I can treat you to lunch. I was too worried about my dog's jumping out and that's why I didn't say okay anything. Wow she's got twenty four cans of Kansas twisted Seattle. Wow redhead shop at red shop at Parken shop by Oh. What does that word looking redhead shopping bargain shop buy ooh. Oh Gee h you had two kids. They were arguing over who carried the lighter bag weight the lighter bag. I voted him. She had a social bag for her lighter the lighter Satchel get get the lighter bag a bag for your dnd dice. It's just lighter than instead a You made older kid. Carry the milk C. A. R. Y. The milk you had on some black leggings. I would love to eat that ass you guys wait zero to sixty real quick. I would like to eat that ass you guys. Were walking home now. This reads like this. I would like to that s you guys like you're with a bunch of guy guys. I would love you whether your friends. It's like you're at central perk right now. In your like a woman walks by with them blackwill diggings on and you're like I would like to eat that ask guys would love to move us. Roy Hubbard Chandler's woes hold the phone enjoys woj already did and and she's like Oh. Monica is like why can't curls you'd has do phoebe writes a song about how Stinky Stinky as I. I wish I could eat as that's my really. My friend script wild episode of friends. Watch straight there guys. I'd like to eat that ass. What are you talking about. I would never eat doughnuts. I'm too in love with Meredith Channel. It wasn't in love with somebody. Ross Ross right who's David Schwimmer. Little fucking care about swimmer is Ross Ross who was also in band of brothers and played the same character. I've never seen bender rosie was the really liked to. It's one of those things I've been meaning to watch for. The almost twenty years now and interviewing has day Brazil I don't know what you guys put this on. We have a DVD player here. Why do you have a DVD hi. I'm crystal and I'm Shantelle and I'll be noticed a change the name I am shantallow tonight. What would I eat guys. Oh Oh just trying to figure out different ways to use that awesome device walking home. If you tell me what I was wearing I was behind you around four thirty PM on nine eleven. Oh my name is Mohammed Atta. I was inspired to terrorism by the the the the lack of beautiful architecture. Everybody remained calm. This is the pilot I would like to eat that as is this. Is this real life for simulation. Asian got multiple ten forties. I've got to isolated pockets of fire that impression of Orio Palmer the first the reach the the first man to reach the scene in tower one wow that's a great impression too. I saw pockets of fire multiple ten twenty S. We got an eight to two trucks. It's four hoses up here. I've never heard of this. It's so good it's all the F. D. N. Y. And release all the transmissions. I was like this guy is. I don't fucking voice. He should have done voice work. He should've done anything but right up on years but they were like homies. Athletic was able to run up the stairs and and relay down that some fucked up should happen and if you're on the street you could have said. Oh yeah some legit shit. If I was the commander I'd be like don't go in matter of fact. Let's just go back to the station house. Cook some Chili and pretend this then. Let somebody else suck and fuck with this one no one or why don't we just dump much water on it listen. I'm down for that just try. Can we try I I because we've got to isolated pockets afire love that Oh that's believe you me that Orio. Palmer is GONNA make it apparent to Paul's apartment someday back. When Paul has the call the fire department and Orio Palmer shows up took me a second view of Paul's apart okay I Simon you go to sleep pockets a fire guy with a big bowl of the view. Hey there. I have seen you wants here. Once before we always make eye contact and I know it just isn't just me L. A. Well you are seriously handsome. You look like a linesman electricity attrition or something you're voltage is legendary and allow legendary and I wanted to do something about it. Heavy up and I'll go down. I'll headed home. It's dead it here tonight. Just talk to their last one once falls wow KUNARAC bogies for a bite to eat tonight if any woman would like to I do have to do with the guns falls boy. I'm going tonight for a boy to eat for. Any woman might be interested. There's a lot of like I like. This is also not written like it's from glands fallout bide. GonNa Bogies going up bogeys for a bite. I bet anyone wants to join me especially a woman. I'm an interesting interesting. I'm an interesting guy and I like doing just about anything if they got my draft address said Falcon email me and we could just chat up talk more whatever I'd like someone in our twenties and I look forward to hearing from you in what is bogies is are all right. I don't know there's some some kind of eatery. GonNa go up and look at a truck in Glens falls else today but the guy never wrote me back sounds like perfect glens falls really obnoxious. There's two different people who I was ready to go see their truck and buy it cash in hand. Did you tell Oh man neither of these guys looking back telling me I have a legendary ball. Judi me and my legendary bulge would like to come and see your trucks. Let me tell you something. I've got a legendary bulge condemn. 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Disney Pixar's Onward

Nerd On! The Podcast

1:10:20 hr | 5 months ago

Disney Pixar's Onward

"Attention please be advised. The following episode contains spoilers. Don't say we didn't warn you. Anyone that came. I'm here replaced. Yes nerd on. What's up everyone? Welcome to the PODCAST. You didn't need deserve where all levels of nerd are welcome in his class. You are with your wizard. A rogue. Yeah today's topic is GonNa take us down a journey to find the phoenix stone to reconnect with some family And maybe have a choice encounter to towards the end to these market marquee title onward on Word and so we will go onward into this episode Infinity and Beyond Word Our Before we get into this latest installment of by Pixar studios we are going to be introducing ourselves including myself. Why am I talking like hey my name is Tom? Ali Caitlyn. I'm cory and the fellow speaking now. Is Josh brought to you? In part by the members of the nation that is powered pastry and as a member of Leonard on nation. You do get fun stuff on perks like discord server where You can talk with fellow fans you can talk with US hosts. You can talk with everybody. There is a lot of fun from gardening to video games. There's casts or elect to battle so much good stuff There is discounts there are bonus episodes. There's a lot of stuff but check it out on backslash patron and being a member of the Neuron nation it does allow us to grow. It allows us to upgrade and be the best that we can be. This episode is also brought to impart by our partnership with Apogee and Odyssey karatasi headphones. They're so yummy. They sound so good in our ears. I do suggest that everybody check them out. Movie Theater inside of each year of well. What year. Oh each year. I heard V. Cheer each year. I heard Liz. You expect on the ball inch baby. You know Tennessee eight years and had and you can't complain about all the headphones you wear. You might like this like I didn't say for example I don't know what that would be thrown Also Apogee. They are amazing. We are recently partnered with them. They will use their interface. The element eight wonderful wonderful sound and we recently last week this last weekend march seventh. We had our first live show at Apogee Studio in Santa Monica and it was a wonderful that those people over there they were so supportive and incredible through the entire experience knee. The studio is awesome. The the energy was there. You could try out the hype Mike. Which is the oldest podcasting microphone? Check check out the live version of the video. It is on Youtube. But yeah that's it that is the housekeeping onward. Wow so that would bring us to our funds. I don't know why oil last start with tricia talking now about sounded like What's his name Robert Leach from like the lifestyles of the rich and famous Goshen Swan? I know something about Kim Anyway. So that brings us to our first Segment if you're brand new to nerd unwelcome and so this is a film one whole film and since it is technically a completed piece of work That brings us to guess that attack. Your Dad Down Half Utah Man and so brand new at the end of this show. We're going to rate it from one out of five I always say one hundred five when I mean to say zero five because early and no matter how high the number is the lowest number in the group becomes the GRUMP for the week. We encourage everyone to play along and Corey has something to say if you were part of our nation. Yes if you're part of the nation get to take part in a poll to guess that if you get ready get a shout on the show all that kind of stuff shadow show shelter speed shot. So we'll get into that. The last bit of guessing here but who wants to start us off me. Oh Tom Tom Yeah I'm going to guess that the person with the lowest rating out of zero to five will be maybe not. Caitlyn but has to probably maybe be uh Josh eager to go where you went. Then you explain your Josh. Josh has actually his his. He's grunts drowned in his abilities. To critique in your qualms things even if you've purely loves it so does she got that. Who's your money on I think because he hates Disney. I'm GONNA Choose Tom. This one's actually really hard because I've heard conversations in passing. You heard I've heard everybody say a little something so I'm like who didn't like him or what. We don't typically spend a whole day together after. That's you're watching it and the thing is it's not who hates it. It's who liked it the least Cryan Who you got me I'm going to go with. This is tough tough on. I'M GONNA go with Caitlin ooh And I actually had a small conversation a little bit about it. So that's why he's like. It's tough I know exactly why okay. Kaelin who you got my aggravated her trap. So I'm wasn't an attack. Is Tom and the neuro? Nation unanimous unanimously. Chose Tom as well. So there's that vote there So we have. Sometimes you never felt so scene but also you also attacked at the same. No votes for me So how do you feel about? Hey you know what some of the most terrible people in the world are always remembered so anyway that means I will be going I with my reading at the end of the show and then Josh Leeann Kaelin can duke it out for second third and fourth and then Tom will be our bitter last So that's it stick around the show. See if you get a shout out or not. I guess if they don't get it right nobody gets a shot voted for trump so for that despite everything he gets everybody Saw us to these spoilers of that completely with the initial reaction. Half your first impressions. If you're go first yes so salt leading up to this movie. I will be perfectly honest. I had no. I wasn't excited and I wasn't not excited not excited. I was just kind of middle of the road Honestly say I would say neutral maybe And because there was a part of me that was like man I feel like I just saw pixar movie and it was like okay. There's another Pixar Disney animated songs. Yeah I walked out going. That was fantastic. Me I I had a wonderful time through the entire thing. There is such a fun experience. It hit a lot of really wonderful things for me that it made me cry a few times. They're like it was such a great film for me. It was a great experience both binding. I walked out going. Wow I didn't expect that so oliver again. This for you know not close about it gets real match for one second for me. It was the same thing like I from the trailers. I really liked the look like the the idea of the like mushroom houses and stuff like that the aesthetics of it all but I wasn't sure how I how I felt about the story or wherever. Yeah but it it. Kinda had elements of everything that I love about things. So first of all a fucking love wizards so to start off with the lead character becoming a real wizard was pretty exciting. Scott Board Games which I've also absolutely love as the centerpiece of at all You have data issues which I'm a sucker for So it Kinda hit all the the marks for me and there's a character named Korean who spells it C. O. R. E. Y. Which is really important to me So yeah I my wife and I went to see this and I know she. She's one of those people who she's not like a four or on the emotional scale. She's crying she's three or below or sad or happy either way she'll cry and I think she cried through most of this film So I I walked out very very surprised and delighted That's why I didn't pick you tom for myself. You know the Neuron nation out. They do have a little bit of a finger on the pulse. I was very actually super unenthusiastic. Watches film Because the weird thing in time like sonic and like other like child film or family Senate centralized films Really big hit and miss for me because I feel like either. Lean too hard on the children's stuff really too hard on the all the adult jokes and then with Pixar specifically thing. I've always admired and loved about Pixar. Is They do have story at a really great place But the one thing I really wanted while watching this I was thinking about it. I was like I was thinking wind. Picks start doing like life-size things and I was like. Pixar was founded upon like the minutia stuff and other than like incredible Monster Monsters Inc would bradbourn and all that stuff and that kind of thing was going like mad. I kind of want like I think about inside out. I think about bugs life or anything about those like few small. Was Wally small little things and this is like now humanoids. A little bit like this is a new genre new era of Pixar so like Going into the film watching the scope of the story or the actual scope of the world. Yeah and so like like up was pretty bad. Yeah again a lot of bigger one. Bill is Kinda like man I remember when they were like focusing on small things like bugs toys and stuff like that. I wonder what the life would be like to be that thing Were onward in. The premise is very much like imagine a world where if okay So but leaving the theater There's so many wonderful great themes That the film touches upon that I think and I said this is. I think this film has more heart than a lot of the Disney animated. Pixar films have come out like and that's a really hard harsh CR- Like thing to say because all you can say all of them have like a really big heart so that some of them. I feel like we're more about society and some of them are more about the personal struggle And some of them make claims about what we do with our emotions but this film of felt like was just talking about one characters struggle and I really really liked I did feel that when walking out the like. I don't know I feel like the attention that was put on Toy Story. Four is like a thousand times higher than those put onto onward in terms of just art style. The art style was great. And I think animations cool but like I there's something like why did they make almost photo realism for some of the things versus this? Like I know they had the capacity to that so I was very interested to see like I wonder would happen but like seeing the work that the director and writer were Donald highly impressed so I walked out pretty Not here nor there. Wow Okay in a good way a good way I. I know he's like talking it up. What would that mean? So like a coin that lands just on into the totem that keeps spinning. Yeah Dream Goes yes so when I So going into onward I was looking forward to it just 'cause I dug the premise But I I same kind of warm and I was wondering like why was Luke Luke. Warm and their marketing. And we'll talk about this more. I guess we can talk with Warren Qualms we kind of. I think we saw kind of the same. We got the same kind of feel But man like up play this way like I got I told you I gotTa Coke Zero like for myself. I told you told Corey for everyone this idea. I didn't I didn't pick it up at all once I like. I was so engrossed in this movie like this had everything that I wanted. This movie to have It didn't I read a lot of reviews that they had issues with pacing. I didn't feel any of that. Maybe just because I was eating everything up. I know what they're trying to say with that great because I mean like yeah. We'll talk about shut up because I I am superheroes because I could not be together like from what I was reading But yeah everything like the characters. Were were great like Chris. Pratt and Tom Holland. Knock it out of the park. As far as I was there dynamic was so good I love Chris because press performance. Why is more He was not Behind was just. It was just a fun from beginning to end. The magic stuff was cool. But the details of your stuff. I Doug I will say I did see all the at the theater after I got out of my screening of it and I said Yeah and then I said there's going to be enquiries favorite Pixar me. Yeah I definitely. There were tears. Many many tears there were salty water that poured is. I put it on top four and I didn't have the salt. Yeah it was it was totally catering. I was like the perfect audience for this movie. I feel because I'm also a older brother to a young so there was stuff there and I was like older brother. Who's twenty years younger than me? But I have a younger sister who I included tried to this kind of felt very close to the gap. I think they were tell how old the brother was did. Any of you at least was used for five years four or five years older at least okay out of high school and then the boy turned sixteen. Does she says gap year at some point. But I don't know if I was high school gap called gap knowledge gap. Cal'S GONNA do they call like if you don't go to college right away. You call the gap year okay. So it's about probably about three or four years then. Yeah it's about the same as my brother three years. See how that would hit bakes so I didn't really know what to expect going in other than like being the theme. My premise was that like I'm going to go in there going to be like. Oh you to see dad half of doubt for the day and then I thought it was going to be like the last two seconds they were all going to have that happy moment hug and he's GonNa poof and so I was like all right here comes and then there was. They like curve bald me. I wasn't expecting does as they do but I wasn't. I guess I just wasn't expecting to get as emotionally invested as I did in what was happening so it surprised me. I felt I loved the DVD stuff. I loved the Tales. Never had a brother. I haven't actually. I have an older sister but I've not had a brother before I'm here but yeah it it. I don't know I there elements of it that I couldn't fully grasp And some things felt a little like we know. This is popular right now. So we're going to do it but I really enjoyed it like a lot. So she didn't like the movie everyone so you didn't let her get to that part yet you will you. Don't give me a chance unfinished. Mepham what's your next movie. GotTa I will also say that the the short beforehand the simpsons short. That was really well done. Yeah I'll talk about that a little bit. I liked it a lot. I just feel very kind of not symphony. Sure like it felt a little bit more. Seth Macfarlane decide story of meeting a girl Maggie like I would see like a baby's day out with Maggie. Yeah she avoids criminals in love. I mean it was a sweet story I love it was great. One of my favorite moments though is when Maggie takes the wheel and Simpson homer. Simpson freaks out but then the next shot. He's got his head and he's like relaxing. Maggie drives the train. I just love to train reveal was spot on. Yeah Yeah I mean to me I yeah. I felt like I in Simpson's fashion. It has adopted the faster animation style and storytelling where it's like things are fucking just happening. So yeah those. I really enjoyed that a lot. what we talked about bow before for what was that Yeah right so just bringing that this was like a it was a welcoming of interesting. To the point of your curveball. I would say excluding a few recent pixar films at least like the classic ones or the ones that stood out to me I would say ninety percent of the time that curve ball is like they'll always give you what you need not necessarily what you want. Yes yeah and Karen becomes the one you. You're like okay. I did want I wanted this but this is a threat story recently. There's a few that haven't hit that for me but like like finding Nemo and toy story and all those kind of things. That's the here's what you need. Not what you really want it. And I'm like Oh but didn't want is what carries the plot. Yeah and the heart rope. I'm GonNa pull and that's talk talking about like antithesis versus the thesis of the film Oh my God also the fucking steaks on some of those situations. Oh Yeah I like held my breath for so long on some of those different peril. Who Yeah we'll talk about that So that brings us into our next two segments where we do a brief synopsis in our production so with the Synopsis. We start out with our lead character which is escaping my name Ian in E. N. Who Foot who in Lightfoot who is in his sixteenth birthday it's he's he's he's an Elf he's an Elf. But it's a sixteenth birthday but we get a little bit of the Lord of the Rings e like what happened so back in the day which was a Wednesday It like ten thousand years ago. They were wizards. Or EXP- pixies all the medieval things interest as narrating it anyway. Yes father narrates That there was magic and magic was really difficult to do. And so we see the creation of technology and how it steer steer people away from magic and so we live in a true nature. Yeah we live in a present day world of that magic had existed Elves of the past as well as dragons and all stuff. We're all like what you would count as the sharks and the cats and the all got domesticated pet dragons and elves. No longer connect with Magic much like people no longer. Basically what if Alexander? Graham Bell was born in in like world of warcraft. What would happen to society? Then accept it was Alexandra Graham Bell Right and so we we have a Ian. Who's on sixteenth birthday going to school? He finally wears the shirt that His sweater that his Father War and we understand that he wishes to be connected with his father. He never met when he was a child because his His father died of an illness in the hospital. Like you know average where he was born average world present-day stuff. Nothing magical about it He has an older brother. Who is named Borel Charlie Barley Barley? Who is the you know I? I'm GONNA say this. I feel bad. Typecasting he's Jack. Black older brother Punk rock. He drives a dope van version of which is called tales of your He has a campaign but it's historically accurate. It's it's pretty much a history book so if you had a D. campaign at home based on like neanderthals and hello rectus risk be appropriate comics up with RPG STUFF. Yeah and Under sixteen birthday Ian Sets up to make himself different to learn how to drive to speak up all this stuff he goes to school. Be like an none of that stuff. Happens then he goes back home Embarrassed because he can't make friends And then his mother gives him a gift because he said once the The father said Before he passed away wants the boys role enough given this once. They're both older than sixteen sixteen. And it's a staff and the staff contains an incantation As well as a phoenix stone and with those three items then you could bring back the dad for one day until the sunset of the next day The spell goes awry because they don't know that Ian Is truly the wizard of the family and they bring back only half his body which you see in the trailer and then they figure out. What can I do? In that nice plot device the phone gets destroyed so they just go on. Go Way to go guys And so they go on a journey to try to find another phoenix. Don't barley because he knows things about everything in this this type of work. They need to go on a quest and that's his specialty and I'll use this Adventure JR and journeys onward. Yes ensues and We can meet a manticore. The MOM finds a sword and we go. Potshot we meet some pixies. They learn how to fly We learned that unions cornell become the wizard who's going to have to learn this arcane. Lightning Gelatin is jealous. Cube shows up. They go through all this cave to find out this. They end up in the Killing wearing a black shirt with intestines hanging out for all this talk. Green and gooey gelatinous And we ended up at the place where we didn't think we would be at at back at the high school and then a giant climactic fight. Because there's a curse with the Phoenix stone that a giant stone dragon will come and What we realized that barley foreshadowing in that the dragon on the wall. And it becomes the face of the jargon Barley has always really been the FA father figure to Ian If just like a good supporting family member And realizations ensue. Ian Realizes. I like you know meeting. Father is more important to barley because barley never got to say goodbye. He was afraid. Yeah and also he had you know. It was after his realization of knowing that he kind of accomplished those things without needing dead and So Deo six sword mocking ensues and Arcane lightning and Barley and gets to meet his weather for the last time and sees them hug and when they re when they meet again. Barlinnie and Bartlett says dad to give you this. And it's the hug that he saw them share. And then what happens is I crawled into a crime. Yeah absolutely important epilogue. Ensues ends able to make friends? They WanNa bring back magic into the world Amanda core or Corey Changes her tavern into the more adventurous tavern adventures. Start out of on what she makes maps to the Phoenix stones and Ian and barley go to the park flying in their van because The new Gwen of their most obvious road is rarely the white right one and where we are going. We don't need roads. Yep you're somebody so that's the movie bite. My tongue finish next to production the production this was distributed by Walt Disney studios motion pictures. They did Toy Story Finding Nemo. Wally a huge list of movies directors. Dan scanlon heated made her in the ghost light short tracy and monsters university. The producer was Corey Ray. She did Monsters Inc. Shadow Cory Cory female. I'm sorry yes okay. Writers are Dan Scanlon. Who did made her. And the light trace monsters university Jason Healey. Who did to say goodbye? A bad idea gone wrong. And it's not about the nail wonderful so wonderful short. Look at check it out to Keith. Button needed treatment which was show and horns. The CAST Tom Holland. Who did DOOLITTLE SPIES IN DISGUISE SPIDERMAN? Far From Home Chris Pratt lego movie parks and REC Guardians of the galaxy. Julia Louis Dreyfuss who did veep such a good show. Seinfeld and enough said Octavia Spencer. The shape of water and the help is the help the recently very good release date March six twenty twenty run time is one hundred. Three minutes budget slash. Gross it estimated twenty million for budget and the estimated gross right now is estimated forty point one million so soon. Okay right The rotten tomatoes score for critics is eighty. Six percent and for audience is ninety six percent. Wow on it also interesting. Yeah please not an air. Don't eat it also. Shout out to John Ratzenberger who is in Toy story toy story to toy story three monsters INC MONSTERS UNIVERSITY. Cars one to three Out Here Finding Nemo Finding Dory incredible edibles cars is one of the park police officers. Who goes to when he's at the very top at the end. He's a guy but he come on down just because he's in every single pixar shout out their former another. There's a bunch of Cameo appearances away and all that stuff. Yeah so yeah. So favorite part the trust bridge. Oh my God that's what I'm talking about immediately so I'm glad you brought it up. My favorite can trust. Bridge was the best super confident. Just Oh my God you could see the tears yes it is. I I could lose my brother any second. If he turns around even for a moment can be vulnerable for suggests. That scene got ruined for me because In my due diligence of looking up shit for the show on favors spoiler and on February twentieth. Chris Pratt made an appearance on Jimmy. Kimmel and screen. That scene also has completely lost all like wait for me. Look anything up until you've do. My job could've caused wash. I started watching but I mean it's still haven't cool bells like I feel like I kind of like I feel like I was like. Oh my God I see all the time but they. They don't show him actually getting across. Okay they don't they just keep going and That last moment when he looks back almost doesn't make it as well done. The tensions built the good thing. They do what they set it up really well so he falls down. I 'cause you weren't thinking you're in folk you're entrusting us. Oh Yeah and then. He misses on the second step. Were focused every step. It happened and then the rope falls off and falls off like halfway through like I'll wet. Nah Al Dente noodle. Yeah I how long did you have the road for pretty much? The whole second half loved it anytime. Barley just goes you got this. Yeah warmly hearts so much. It's the good family. Also the part where he's like. I'm not ready. You'll never be ready Anwar all. That's good that's my. That's my kind of support. I guess it was. That was a shoutout to clueless. Right probably well. Yeah the freeway seen when she can't get on the freeway in La she does and like but they all must die. I mean that feels accurate life but Gelatinous Cube was apparent. Oh Yeah of course it had to how. It came out in the credits. Did you see the credits like shoutout? To Wizards of the coast. For letting US use the gelatinous cubes gave a shout out in In the credits. Yeah One thing actually the my favourite actual over all my favorite seem feel so different from the rest of the movie I don't know that too good. They are bad thing It's when he is listening to the tape and he is looking at. Yeah I think I really there were tapes everywhere not CDs or anything like the thing I really liked about. That scene was at like took. It was much slower than everything else. I think a what. I'm getting very used to animations at things have to happen. Like a millisecond as a beat. Yeah Jesus Christ you just stay on shop or like have some slow even letting you breathe. But it's kind of like you can do quick cuts into a scene that takes a long time. Yeah Just tension but this scene. I felt take took. Its time on to really kind of hone. Unlike why does this kid really WanNa meet someone who's never met right Because you know you can speak for an argued that like there's a lot of kids who never meet some parents into this learn to live and love they're the other parent they have But then this really kind of starts drawing in like I. It doesn't like try to convince you. It is tries to bring you in this treasure like. Hey this is the shoe that we WANNA walk with my cool and I really appreciate that. Like they're you know diff Contrary to some pixar formulas that like they hit you in the gut right in the beginning and then they tried to bring you back into humanity out. Yeah this is much more of like a were gonNA slowly give you those including feelings of loss that he that you need to understand so that the story of humanity is like told like your because like one of the one of my favorite parts is kind of the beginning him just getting trying to eat breakfast house like Peter. Parker moment could hardly working your. Can we talk about Bronco with that? Was Pretty phenomenal him? Coming in on breakfast and awkwardly trying to sit down kicking everything out of the way like yeah this is he drives a bronco. Of course he has. Yeah I I really enjoyed the illusion. Seen the other leading like an ear bit lying. I thought that was a great storytelling mechanic for the law. I don't agree with that that he's a screw up and tall. I thought that was really well done way of using the rules of the world. Yeah Yeah I would say like the thing with Disney and like oh we'll talk a little bit about like the the weird reviews of that because I think it's to me I wanNA trumping this until positive so the review that all he was talking about before it's like a lot of critics has pacing issues and to me. I think the piecing issues that people are now starting to count on a dime. What happens in Pixar movie and to me that's happened? That happened the entire movie. I knew exactly when we're going to happen it but it didn't take it away from me because the thing is something you can count on like a clock sometimes super reliable and so when you get those things that happened pretty well done than it works for you. If you just don't like the world you're in then that's not going to help you the fact that you keep in mind like this isn't fucking ten it. It's not like some kids film at the same time needs to be like to follow it in clear. Children need to be able to follow. What's happening as well? The tough thing with that though just to speak about it was like every animated film. That's everyone has never been rated R. Film yeah right so like all the all. The animated films are always going to be cared towards children. But then there's only one best animated award the Best Team Right. So it's like the one coded thing. And that's why animation gets such hard scrutiny. Nowadays about those things is because like well. If you're only GONNA be selling like children then you have to be on T. Because like and not to discredit any other company but like if it was like a smaller thing like a Saturday morning from a different company it would just beat us going on a quest but like this wasn't only about that again and to me. Yeah the quest. Like we know they're going to get to the end of the class but the bigger point of it is like they're they're kind of figuring out the world and themselves. I mean I even made it to the in my new show like I knew like they can't be friends. They have to have some drama right and that it's GonNa make them force to be true friends at the very end because it has point where like you have to like. Hey I trust you but I don't really trust the so I. I refused the thesis of you could tell that from the beginning when he rips the sweater and like you have steals the food or with a smaller. Cast you kind of have to do that. And so like what I'm saying like I count on every single point like some nothing gave me a curve ball at all in this film but then like I didn't take that as a bad thing because it's like how are you going to use these Mac like these form was in mechanisms within the world that you're developing and I thought it was done like as well as it could possibly do. It is. Is that coming from like just being a film. Person and knowing beets every pixar film. They're almost very very very similar. This they just use the world to tell the story. And morty following the hero's journey so the same same thing like with the ending I knew. He wasn't going to meet his dad. Yeah I just didn't know how the way it was executed. I loved it. Yeah and I wanted him to meet his dad. I wanted that. I wanted to be surprised that he would and I thought if he did. It would be a half a second of something and whatever was left behind would be more meaningful than the actual interaction right. And so which in many cases that it is under path to see him through people exactly and so so with that like to the point. Yeah but it didn't take away no sort of expecting that means you're getting tired of the formula. Yeah you're not tired of the store your entire the formula. Yeah and so the you're asking for a movie that's going to be like will then would if he kills the brother and then asking for they want us to version. We'll ask him front like you're asking a cookie to be a sandwich right like don't do that critique cookie because how how good of a cookie it is. I love all those commes bake. Does that make it a Pie Thumbing God. I those like pocket. That's that's why I didn't mind it because I was like Each of these little pockets of this quest are like amazing either. Storytelling interactions or just some cool. Like novel thing that I'm done I'm drawn like all else like conditions spell. Yeah that's eight. That's up John was just GonNa say you only just reminded me of? This is a favor part about it. It's more of an aspect of it is a smaller cast. There aren't a whole bunch of people that were focusing on. It's mainly yeah and I and I like that aspect of it because it the the movie can potentially have a very grand scale and you get two people it just focusing on these groups. These characters Yeah it's four billings right. It's four stars. Guests are and if you think about it like all a lot of pictures are like that. Like inside out joy and sorrow and then like toy story buzz and woody and then life is flick. Yeah and so they and cars is Steve McQueen mater. I kinda like button busy buzzing wuzzy. I mean a lot of ways you bud. One of my favorite parts was manticore tearing down her tavern. Come who who said whoever said. This did direct. What have I become? I imagine I liked that mechanism of you had a map of where you need to go. What are kind lightnings? Coho ion wizard in a very. I think this sounds really bad when I say it in a very basic fundamental way you pretty much outlined animation him like pretty much like hey. Here's supercenter you won't get to that until the end of the but you won't get to lightning until the end when you actually need to do it and you see those inclinations because he tries to do any fails I think that's the important part is that he fails to do it. He's not what's the stupid fucking Bullshit `gate-keeping term the Mary sooner sue and the Larry Josue area. It's like they're a blank character that you can put yourself in their shoes very easily. No means like someone who can do something instantly. A lot of any sort of failure trial a lot. You'll captain model and Ray were like understanding so a male versions Gary Stu But a Lotta people say power all at the time. A lot of people say Mary sue the bar because they are boring because they they don't they don't challenge anything rare. It's like what people say Superman Challenge. You can insert yourself into that. Has All the powers but with this like Ian doesn't know how to do magic all the time and when he does he does it for plot which is cool and fine because it works for the story but then like you see him. Try to do arche enlightening multiple times and it doesn't work to me. I liked that because it shows like or failing the gigantic spell. Yeah yes the CHEETO now fun. Yes no the van scene when he's giving when he's go interview renovated music and the tire goes flat slaps. Yeah I just the whole time. I was like yes. Yeah has ever felt like so bad for a vehicle. Shows that it was that that they sent off into the sunset because like I was invested in it and it was really sad for it but I was like I was also like. It's just a car. Yeah I know I'm sorry. One of your brain of you made me really want Pixar to do a western even though another Enemy Comey did was it. Rengo Ranga was raped. Mandak Pixar they should hopefully just plain to all the tropes and she like that but I mean it's it's an easy one but for me the pretty much the last July mosquito last sequence of the film of just the the curse revealing itself if becoming the dragon the fight the mom being like I am a design design Just the whole and him like the power that he takes on and the peephole this thing the hug it was so splinter for the rest of the film. It's his part was cool. Yeah gigantic only the Oceans Right. There you go good now then you think about it. It's not it's not his staff. It's his father staff and so now he has their own thing was like now. He can teach people how to make their own staff. He doesn't need to stand down anymore. Because it's the splitter. Yeah aren't splinters on a splinter. Yeah there are Jackson Hole. Where you're like wait. What did hair can't have loose? Triple Stamp Double Stamp blowing. I really liked actually really thoroughly enjoyed all the sprite stuff yeah I see yeah Griffin I but I thought I heard sprite in the movie. I think the way energy right. I think I think so. But as do drop a Pixie and the leader of the Pixie dust as biker gang. Yeah that was. That was pretty great. Like they're interacting in there. I love the bearded one Z. Z. Top that was amazing and then they fly by the end of it was fantastic. The whole chase scene with them was really great with With the DAD waving out the flipping. Emma what I love it. They also like developed a nickname for him. Despite not saying anything is like what's wrong with you shades and then over but also really liked the way that the bottom half walked like it obviously was like. I don't know what I'm seeing. The dancing was so great. A great little plot mechanic was the bringing it up twenty thirty minutes before too. And he's a guy that on his shoes selling memory I have and then that's of course. How do you communicate with someone who can't see your talk brilliant? I thought that was brilliant. Little writing all great surprise that like the emotion that feet were able to off. Could you? Obviously you don't have you don't have an upper house. You don't have a face to judge the and so seeing the reaction of the lower half of like oh I know who I'm thinking. He's not here in looking Sassari. I like that possibly could be a quote unquote pothole. But I appreciate it is that barley didn't know everything because barley starts out the story where he like. Oh we have to go do this. We have to go meet the mandatory. Then we had to go over there. You never take a road editor. Yeah and then when we get to a temple. He doesn't know what to do. I like that because to me. There's two things right. It's like he knows the conceptual ideas of adventures doesn't the applicable forms book and then trying to apply to immediately but also he doesn't become if anyone ever wants to watch like the most boring character of all times fucking Adrian Brodie and fucking in the Predator fucking everything. That's what I would have like. He's hunting US always make. Would I would do shut the fuck up? Get the fuck out the plant thing. You're so fucking smart barley here. It's like cool. Like he knows enough to get him in trouble but then when he gets more trouble now against and I really love is actually the during the booby-trapped scene where it's like to not have time. Just go pushy. On like yeah. That's a real adventure typically is it's like no battle plan survives first contact with the enemy. Cheeto bit was so those certain things that I like that those are rules that you do with characters that they can't know everything especially when things happen like sometimes things change like it just makes us what it's not boring was kind of wondering when the cheese puff was. GonNa get soggy and melt like into the water. But I'm glad that it. I mean maybe it's too big. It's no longer poorest enough to absorb water The pores are too large. Cheeto like really bothered by it at your would ship. Yeah also has pores say like I say it just takes a single cents sometimes so totally fine with the molecular science of what she's proofs are then you actually but Josh I was going to say so? There's not a huge cast for Howard. We do favorite character person. Second favorite character. Yeah Yeah side character. I mean sure first and second character. Okay that's tough. Well here's the thing I feel like. I like it a lot. Because he's a wizard. I I I said this show last night if I could be a wizard In real life I would but I can't so I pay one indeed indeed however I feel like I relate to barley more so let's say barley and then your second character corey okay. I thought she was great but I really loved the manticore. The cool thing about the character to is like again the whole I guess background Subtexts of the film is trying to reconnect with our natures and so they manticore. Haven't done yourself learning how to fly again. Yeah and I just. I loved the Herald and Kumar esque lag. Let's burn this place down. Loved it also stabbing the pawnshop owner in the neck like the one seen in held and Kumar like a hero Kumar Staple? Big is one of my favorite one scene. Yeah it's great. Every time I think is someone like losing their mind and saying we need. We need to burn down So yes it was. It's one of the stick out moments of Heroin Coomaraswamy. So I'd say Corey's the second we'll say a barley I loved barley and I really really enjoyed the mom. I'm yeah yeah I loved her and she was just I think you strike an interesting dynamic with this kind of story where she's finding out to who she. The husband could come back and that ended. That's really complicated. Voip complicated but it's also kind of like she's really cool through the journey. He's she's finding her power and then in her power at the end when they first find the spell and she goes off into her own little corner is like what what what did you get into. What have what kind of crazy thing you get into in. The brothers are having their moment but she's having this whole like am. I going to see him again like what happened. What is this yeah? It was very very real answer. My favorite is Bailey Barley Barley Bailey Bailey for Harley Barley It's Bronco for second. Oh Yeah Yeah I just you know. Centers used to be able to run seventy miles per hour view. That every bit of like everything. He all the comedy with him was amazing. Ceylan I am still pondering a little bit so if you know show. Ceylan for audience what the Hell for me. I would say like Ian because he's an audience surrogate you see him grow. You see your stories with them but that doesn't make him to me the most likeable So I like barley as my top and then I think the second is a bronco because it's very. I think it's a tough. It's a tough racket to be second man and a family's life and I think they play it too comedic standpoint but then I. He's not really terrible. It's I feel like drive with the sun. You might agree with me on this because I think we've obviously talked about this before and a recent movie When they do. Stepdad's really well I really dig it. Yeah like I. Mike Saving Stepdad. He's just the boyfriend. Yeah and like I mean. That's the thing where it's like to actually and like I think yeah when the when the Sun will when they're done to a point where they're not militias and apple and it's like they're just another by centered human like I think it's a tough break to have and I think a film tries to do well where it's like because I'll tell you right now when my parents got divorced and my mom's like I didn't fucking like getting to the she dated because there was just that weird child mentality of like going to replace Real. World's I give my dad but then like that's fucking any anyone that came I'm here replaced. Yes I'm the DAD man. Dan Dealing with that subject approximating Stepdad's so when I see story Mike. Shout out to make a. It was a yeah. Yes trying to normalize it and I'm Kinda like yeah like it. Every family is is. It's a whole unit even if it's broken or dysfunctional or fucking got its own quirks and so I I really like that because I think we especially Disney has fucking long legacy of like if it's broken then it's a and a tragedy and not princess need to find a man how. How do you feel? There's more damage that they've done. Good all right so Caitlyn Kayla. It's your time the cheat on the pants. What Cheeto in the pants? That's the I was having trouble because My my two favorites are in and barley in that order Ian Just because he's going through all that growth and it's like the people around him people when he does something that's seemingly out of character like his mom is proud of him they're like wow he's actually like changing that's great good and then barley. I've known a lot of Farley's in my life like people who were exact last name. Lyford the bar leave Matt national but like I've lost some of those people because they like couldn't move on from some stuff so like that was a heartwarming thing but I couldn't make it my favorite because I had too much baggage attached sure but a character that I why was him hauling so much is because I really liked the dad. I like the Dad. I like history. The feet defeat But I like hall. Except of him and who? Yeah who he was. He was like secretly a wizard and even his family didn't know like counted. He was an accountant. And also money. That's true But like he thought they were going to say he left his family the ability to see him after he died and is like hey meant more of US probably was like. Yeah actually what I got from. The story was that he wasn't a wizard the whole time like he started learning that knowing he was dying and was like. There's a way that I could come back for a day. Ten years later we'll dizzy pixar sequel to onward backward. Let's just the top half what is going on this void of nothing but what if it was tales of your that was based. Dad Their their that their dad was into and unlike that was just a game that was lying around. And that's where he learned about the fee everything and that's how barley got into tales of your because it was already at the house and was like something. His Dad sounds like a fan. Like of course it is but that's why I'm like. I want him to be my favorite character because of all this head can have that. You'd like Corey the most cory. I feel like cool Scorpion. Fuck on shop owner died but also I realized I really liked her and how she had her story. Art The tattoos and burning down the building. But like I don't know she kinda lost a couple of Brownie points for me at the pawnshop. And she's like this. Sword is so rare right in front of pawn shop owner. I'm like woman no you'd be like this is a piece attention credit. She also always has the solution for it. Yeah that's true. Did she stabbed her in the neck? So yeah I mean to be fair corey just out of like the quiet place. That's we she. She doesn't know the world yet the the from get Alison. She just got out of that. Fair Fair So yeah now move onto qualms yeah uh-huh who like to start. I'll start all right. I don't really have any all right. Perfect so now. I'm just kidding I have one. That was like a reach around. You just say the words. Please read the passage of time in the journey. Like a like okay. Wait you don't have a car but now you have to go on foot and then do this thing in the certain amount of time they was like there was the only part where I was like. But it's a kids move. Well I mean that's what a lot of criticism was about Darden rises. They don't like ticking time-bombs alive audience don't prefer ticking time bombs as your source of like why pays happen yeah I mean the. The premise of the film is a ticking time bomb. So it's hard to get around but I will say there was a part where it was like. I thought at two minutes left. Maybe that was two hours and I'm an idiot two hours. Yeah and I was like. That's it was one of those things they didn't again. It did not take away from it at all. I thought it came into my head once and I was. But that's it I don't really wipe off. Yeah Yeah Yeah so yours because like the only thing that really stuck out to me at all was when they were following the ravens point and like you can start your point. Yeah the like you could see how far away they were like where it pointed to and the rain one day. No that didn't bother me. It was more of that. Like you know they would see it. But the mid Kinda like veer off to the side because they could already see where it was pointing to but there was like one shot where they walk all the way directly under and then they turn that way like I was like you didn't have to. You knew where it was going. Why didn't you like from fifty feet away? Start TO MAKE THAT. Turn to make it perfectly aligned. I know but as I get it the other even pours in Cheeto though more more fan witchy. Tofu would've but now it's not 'cause science like shrunk cost anywhere else gory for me. It was the throw this word out there pacing of the ending. The realization moment felt very like an and the dragon felt very like oh we ran out of time. We'll get a donald gets to the end of the scene Like I just wish that the are you saying it felt rush. Yeah the painting that felt too quick. I wanted to live in that moment of him realizing the connection between him and his brother without so many flashbacks like live in that moment. A little more. Maybe he was talking to his dad like a lot like he's like I know you can't hear me but like this is kind of all we're going to get through that conversation. Maybe he realizes that he's always had a brother. Oh I would have died instead of the F- for me. The flashbacks took the impact away. Because a lot of the flashbacks were the ones. We just saw. Let me add to that. Yeah that and sorry. I'll either spoiler happens in saw one and so yeah and to me that became such a trouble And then a third I. WE'RE GONNA flashback. That explains all this shit. We just saw And to me. That is a formula flaw with children films. Because they have to do. Yeah I still think it could have been done through a conversation with his dad and step. I think to me the other way to go about without the conversation with his dad. Is that like you make the the things you make this more adult and the thing is an odd an adult audience watching it. If he the the brother barley came by. I'm sorry he looks at his Bartolini realize all that happening. It looks looks through the the the lines. And that's it because you're you're assuming you're counting on the audience's intelligence all that Shit just happened. Yeah but I'm still trying to kid way and assume that barley is still stuck at the fountain. Now it would be they sit watch the sunset and he talks to his dad and through that he realizes like he's a cab and I'm going to be okay though because I have barley. Who and then he realizes his list. And that's that could have been no flashbacks needed. I think that was. That was the biggest part for me that I live in these revelations more but it was like. Let's realize this let's go find the Dragon. Okay the dragons dead. And let's spend a lot more time on that dad needed flip-flopping ending but I didn't feel like it. Earned that moment more like more meaningful moment with the brother afterwards. Yeah also something where like I agree with you. I wanted more of the yeah. I wanted to be juicier. Yeah I didn't get any stranger things. Did they start playing a game now for me that that could have all been traced back to that. Yeah the flashbacks. I didn't need it. I wish there was a more creative way to go ahead. I have a couple anymore Keeping into remember yeah minor minor to Minor and and one key is kind of unorthodox. Poc you'll see Essentially I feel like there wasn't enough Batman impressive How do you know? I think there was a lot more opportunity in preventing you have a little bit more spectacle in the sense of like you can like. Wow US more like the ravens point thing. I feel like it could have done something like where it's massive castle or sump lying That frozen too when she goes into the island thing discovers like this giant Ice Castle. Daddy that I that I thought would be really cool. Was like it was like an underground crazy castle thing. And then like a cames comes to the point in the point. Breaches the surface. And it's the top of the Fountain Cowboy to and like I wanted a little bit more adventure in like villains kind of in this kind of thing an actual antagon- and I kind of and then I started thinking about the movie more and there's a both my arms in one and I was in every day to work. I pass by the billboards and that's pretty much all I'd saw for this movie. We talked about the budget. It's fairly low. I would say for a Pixar movie. Yeah and I think that's where my qualms so it's not really common the movie. It's a quantum. The budget is Quan as need be allowed putting a lot into pixar any more than putting more to Disney animation. If that sounds like you know this might be a first evidence of that. Because like they could've had like an APP like I even searched. The absurd is not. There's no onward APP like they could have had a game. Where like you could be a wizard or like do spells like my could've done a lot more to get more people viscous. Some of the criticisms I read was about like like okay. It wasn't like a bubbly character was in color super colorful Kasa characters. Like no one's GonNa want this on. They're like no one's GonNa WanNa short of a character. The real quick like I on that like our some of our initial reactions where. I didn't know what to expect right could've with could that but you know it's a it's A. It's a quote from the movie as well because that would have then meant that the movie would have benefited from some of that stuff like more. Those like spectacle moments. Mike boss fights things like that. I think there was some some more opportunity in there and I know the movie about that. But you know you can. You can always write it around that where the characters need each other and stuff like that. It's tough because you don't know how little or how much marketing is going to help. Because if you look at the marketing campaign for the first frozen yeah. There was not well. It's like I guess it's more like a cyclical thing like the content being marketable would have made the marketing easier than the marketing would have helped movie short. So it's like but again frozen was the largest animated film of its time. It had the same amount of marketing. This did so it. It doesn't always eight doesn't always equal B. Can't always del by say to that point? And I've talked about two words like I think. Sometimes the test audience stuff becomes a hindrance because they see that it's not a hundred percent like what's not likeable characters of this and they choose not to put more money into it and that's also interesting because again that means that the test audiences for frozen were like well. This isn't yeah I mean don't put money into it was a fucking hit. That's I think the same thing that happened to a two lion king. Yeah because you're putting more money into another animated film and then lying's one that blew it out so it's like it's never know you never know but it's like Kinda shows when you don't treat all of children right. Yeah and so it's I give them all the fair chance so I I just bring that up because it was. It was the first one of the first times where it was very noticeable like the product. Both the movie and the billboard. Because I'll I'll say this and I disagree that's fine I think toy story four. Look Better Faculty. We just have more money. So there's more particle effects more atmospheric fence onward. What's honored before this? Nothing was toy story. Four choices before os three films so multimillion dollar bank on Recognize a bit better four but yeah but didn't look as Pretty I. It just breaks my heart a little bit only because Pixar has made their name on originals. Like I feel like they're like yeah. The sequels do fine but but really the things that blow people away. Are these incredible original ideas that kind of all your mind. The last like six or seven should be putting all their love. More love more of their love should be going. I feel like into their originals than well originally content. They don't follow their rule. They used to have. Yeah where it was like for every. I think it was like for every sequel. They did three originals rich. And they don't do that anymore now. It's the opposite. It's like every three six sls will get one original in their shouts Abubakar So I mean that's also like an interesting I like Bob Idir. I've always Outta here said that. World's like a Disney lake or a dreamworks original is like sometimes as good as Pixar. Ya Sequel. Yeah and like that's kind of a really roughing it. It's like the underground castle. They didn't have the budget to hire more artists in there. Though but will we got out of. The park was incredible late for the budget for that. Studio has as a legacy for reason like they'd be delivered clams Tom. So I WANNA kinda preface this real qualms I so. Does anyone know how the story of the film got created? Now Dan Scanlon. The writer Director This this happened to him so he having wizard him and his brother never met their father and they had a tape. And this is what I watched from the Jimmy Kimmel and was fucking fucked me up but also helped me now And they had a tape and the only thing on the tape was hello and goodbye from the debt and he had made the film for his brother without his brother. Ever with the film's about and so to me. Those kind of things are so much more important. I mean Japan rating real quick. Yeah and so having that kind of prior knowledge in knowing where Dan scanlon came from like he came from Monsters University and to me like I don't think of Monitoring University as one of Disney's four greatest films of all Time Fun But coming from a story. That's really personal to him. I Like I've vie for this film so much more and like I said like this has so much more heart than I think. A lot of other did But that being said like that's where I think the market comes in hand because this is director film and that's why he sounds like yes. I director is not a film by Committee Director Film by Director. And that's why I think the strongest points of it is in that sense. Yeah a lot of the weakest points of the film I think are because of Not I think the trailer kind of hindered it because again I was beat for beat. I knew exactly what was GonNa Happen? And the moment like you said like Barley said. Never sick about it as well. I know the endings changed now. Because that's GonNa happen like thanks for telling me exactly how this is going and like. That happened every single time and to me I was like could tap every single. I was like this is going to happen. It's GonNa Happen. It's GonNa going to say I am award. I feel like it's to the point where like not like hate at an hate it but I was just like it was almost like. Why were we so conformed to this thing when we know what she wanted to do with the story And I think that I would say it is like a byproduct of the formula which has now shown maybe some chinks in the medal in the armor And I think my also another. My last kwame comb is going to be that I think inclusion of guest stars kills the budget. Oh tracey ullman like all. Yeah and I mean in sad fact like Ali Wong or Lena waves character. Like I don't know if you guys know this destroyed the film overseas countries don't WanNa see Lesbians Yeah and so. Like that's also. Why hated paranormal and so the film is quote unquote underperforming at this point. That ETA Disney's standard like only pulled forty million for a weekend only pulled forty versus where I think projected one hundred million because that's their bar of successes and so two that it feels hard and like that film doesn't feel like an event film like that's what they've been doing for the last fifteen years make vent films so now if anything painting less you feel less impacted. This is a more important story than any of those event films are. Yeah and that's the troubling thing about the way that films becoming And so that's why I'm like. I have those qualms but like I like almost. They don't matter because it's not really this film specifically it's a broader. Yeah and it's not the fault of the creators of the film and that's what hurts me right exactly. Yeah so that's gone so rating. Is that all of them all right so I'm first your first For me four point one for yeah. I really enjoyed this this film. It had a lot of things I needed in it. Hit a lot of marks for me The the pacing at the end Did take me out of a little bit of the emotional state of it. Unfortunately I think it would have been like a four point five ish four point six if that little change and it's a lot it's a lot of points to take off but The whole climax including the dragon fight over too quickly wherever I heard that before with me. So yeah but I I enjoyed it. It was a lot of emotional moments in this that that hit me really hard And so yeah four point one now. I have trouble crying and movies because a plastic. I don't know it's the plastic is actually home. Bound fucked me up recently. That was it. Oh well an orange. Cat No retriever. What is notice that Fox me so I have four one duke it out? Four Point Seven All right probably four point six. Oh Wow now I fucked up. Four point eight four point six. Oh four points there. I will say I feel like if I watched it a couple more times my score would be higher. I want to watch it more times that I just have some weird feels about it that I haven't fully processed yet and I feel like if I watched it a couple more times I would enjoy it more. I won't be buying this movie one hundred percent. Yeah all right Tom. So why not put it in a four? Oh I three point one. Yeah ooh on nation nation got a completely right so let me shout out all six votes here. So we have Dana P Andy and Jackie Brock Justin and Aqeel. Oh for voting for time. That's awesome that sounds about right. Yeah how does it feel to be the ground You know I got a four. That's a pretty poor. Does everyone that. I had a Stefo over to this moment. It's kind of like people were standing in a pool and I just kicked them down like Bob Apples and currently now underneath all the weight of my glory. Great Cool Wow. The image of that was just so much pain everybody at home. Thank you so much for listening. 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"This episode of beyond is sponsored by spotify original podcast. The besties beyond and hello and welcome to another episode of beyond this one is number six hundred thirty two. Weiser for a high number. My name is Max Scoville. I'm filling in for Jonathan during Bush whose off with that nasty rat park again doing all sorts of squeaking nonsense as land baby. Yeah home home of the Anaheim and I'm joined this week by my good friends. The O'Brien Jala Ronald Tano. Hello joining us from Aegean UK. Simon Cardi Hallo. Thanks for coming by man. This is really fun on. Having a great grandson was different shows. And Yeah we just we we were just discussing. His body has a monotonous voice. Oh yeah but like it makes everything that you say so much more interesting because there's a little one tone you have to kind of really listen to pick alley information on all the time. There isn't any I can't tell if you're constantly messing with me or never messing with me. both wow see there you go. I don't even know what to make of now. Let's see what's going on here. We do have a comment or the week. Our Max Gaming says conspiracy. Brian Got Max sick so he could have Jonathan all to himself last week. You guys had an intimate episode which was just the two of you right. How'd that go go albums? It was great. Some would say was our best episode. Get me sick on purpose. No you got me sick before that you worked a red carpet and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Did she see a lot of people? Saying this is where it's at two people podcast so much fly over here and I didn't fall asleep so that's good. That's good my favorite. My favorite reviews are it didn't fall asleep or I use this to falsely. Yeah it was a good good reviews. let's see. I'm really enjoying God every week. You'll have such great chemistry and every episode. It's a lot of fun to watch whether it's just to view our all four keep up the good work in great entertainment thank you. It's so nice to get nice friendly comments. That's that's lovely. That's a very nice thing to. I think we're going to get a lot of angry comments next week. What was up with that man's voice it made me fall asleep. I don't know Lucy are you. WanNa tease the beyond shirt working yet. sorry yes. I know that the response to my question several years ago where I asked. Do you want an elderly Irishwoman t shirt on the store? Newly launched please check it out so we were like no hell nor I will never touch that with a ten foot pole. Gross eight hundred likes and then a couple of you like yeah I'd love. I'd love that and we listened to you. Know that doesn't we will be launching. I'm not sure when but there is a design for an elderly Irishwoman t-shirt it will be available on the Aegean store. Please just check out my. Have you got the euro for the DOT. Org Dot Com? Okay so yeah. Keep an eye on that. I will obviously tweet about it. When it's out I will force all my friends and family to join the Elderly Irishwoman call wearing wearing that shirt. That sounds like a very just really an odd thing to wear. I really want this to wick. Because apparently it's one of the fist like in Jokes. We have on the newly launched store crazy six got who episodes. And it's the first it's like it's like a test run for enjoy. Apparel Saint Patrick's Day is just around the corner. The elderly do love to wear shirts. It may be one of our. We enjoy expect. Let's use it as a launching pad for for the more established Intelligent ones anyway. I I think we have other stuff to talk about besides the shirt that we might make just murdered in job t shirts you ever so much for that idea anyway. Now it's time for some news. Crunch let's play the noise if I put him not playing the wrong plan. The noise you doing great is probably the noise. I think I'm doing fine whenever I say. I don't think I'm doing that. Great People tweeted me and they go. I think you'd just find anyway. It's time to talk about news This is a really kind of a creepy thing to talk about but One of the big trends this week is companies pulling out of big gaming events on account of the spreading corona virus namely Sony backed out of both Pax East. Ngdc they had promised to be all these events ahead of the PS five. And now. That's not happening so much. And this is not just Sony Capcom Square INEX- pulled out a pack ceased and could you productions ducked out of GTC Which is which is kind of kind of nuts as well. Yeah just pulled out just yesterday. I Yeah I'm like I understand because these big global companies coming from all over not just within the United States I can't help but feel especially. Gd See because that's not really a public. It's more of a a loosening convention when people come to learn and people will already tickets and now it's all kind of ten to one of our commenters point out the Kajima an EA probably pulled out of GDP because they didn't have anything new to announce which is not a thing that happens at GTC DDC's very very different to the the threes in the it is a game developers conference. They have like seminars about how to. I mean people always be angry. 'cause lots the world it's hard to be angry at people pulling out events because they don't want to die. Yeah Yeah Yeah now. Yeah yeah the the thing that's been kind of kicking around my head. I was talking about this with Jonathan away from microphone. So you know. Replicate the conversation here there. I realize there are launched games that would have been available on day one on the playstation five. That will not be available on Day. One of the playstation five. Because of of this sort of you know butterfly effect I really think that like the GDP. Is You know for for for people outside of the industry? It's probably just looks like a bunch of people talking about ray tracing and sound design and stuff like there's a lot of that right but there's also a lot of like very small studios same thing with packs meeting up with very big studios and publishers in hotel rooms and suites to try to pitch them on getting their games on other platforms. And I really think that this is. This is Sony's basically last big push before this fall in terms of all of the you know sort of sweet of conventions that happens between now and the end of the year and that's them getting hands on face to face with developers giving them deb. Kits talking about what? They can do what they can do to entice them onto their ecosystem what they can do to give them. Placement on the storefront March we can highlight them among all the other titles and stuff like that. That is so important right now and removing those channels on like a face to face level is going to have some repercussions. I don't think it's going to be repercussions it. We all see like. I don't think it'll be things that just I think it's stuff that would have happened behind the scenes. That will now no longer be happening. That will somehow impact the libraries of these things if they do even launch this fall Like we don't really know how big and bad this is going to get. I mean this is this is obviously. This is not a a virus expert expertise show but like what what no. It's barely even a playstation expertise show but the The thing is about it is that it's it's it's moving quickly and there's no cure for it and it's a symptomatic for a lot of people so they it's getting thirty thousand fifty thousand three hundred thousand games calm people in one Building seems like a dangerous thing to do. I also think that like one of the if you have never been to a video game convention on this sort of scale people tend to get sick anyway like it's just it's part of the course three three that you just get this horrific sickness and I've been speaking to a couple of people who sort of thinking. Now maybe they won't go to GDP because regardless. You're probably going to get sick the cone flow and and I wouldn't want that paranoia light bouncing around in my head. Yup Yup. Yeah I think that's that's what's really You know sort of dangerous in kind of overwhelming at this whole thing is that this like this does have real world ramifications in business all over the place in terms of where hardware is manufactured it. It's historically China. That's what I was gonNA bring back in factories closing because of What do you call? Quarantine stuff and stock market. Took a bit of a dip because of that which is like everything's a little bit connected you know and it's yeah no it's going to be weird is hell if we're like did you guys expect to hear about. Ps five stuff by now this year. Oh for sure. Yeah a lot of people there because of price source because they wait and see myself to. It might just be linked to this. We don't know it could be signed much more necessarily directly linked to this. I mean it could. Yeah Yeah. It's it's pretty odd it's weird. Yeah about sorry no carry on I was GONNA say like I do remember the year the. Ps four came out the first look. We got the dual shock. Four was in a glass case Edgy W