35 Burst results for "IOT"

CoinRabbit
Top 6 IoTeX influencers to follow on Twitter
"12 p.m. Monday February 13th, 2023. Top 6 influencers to follow on Twitter. Founded by Jin's son, Roland chai, Kevin gua and shin shin fan in 2017 Io TX is an easily scalable, decentralized blockchain network serving the IoT Internet of Things. According to its developers, everyday people and businesses can own and control their devices via iota X, which uses a blockchain and blockchain mechanism with a single root block and multiple. Read more. The post top 6 IoT X influencers to follow on Twitter first appeared on coin rabbit. The post top 6 iota X influencers to follow on Twitter appeared first on coin rabbit.

The Breakdown
What the New ‘War of the Currents’ Means for Decentralization
"So the first piece we're going to read today is called Starlink Verizon 5G and crypto, with the new war of the currents means for decentralization. It's by Tim Kraft's who's the founder and CEO of chirp. And first appeared as part of coin desk's crypto 2023 series. Whether it's Verizon courting government contracts for its 5G upgrade, blockchain startups deploying routers with crypto mining incentives or Elon Musk making Starlink available to the Ukrainian resistance, broadband and Internet of Things IoT technologies are the new battleground for companies, ideologies, and visionaries. While it is still too early to tell whether there will be a singular or divergent solution, the new technological framework for interoperability will have ideology embedded in its code. Crypto and freedom advocates should ensure decentralization as a principle is enshrined and cooperate to realize and expand on Nikola Tesla's vision of a decentralized ubiquitous network. In the late 1800s, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, and George Westinghouse found themselves in an ideological battle over the future of electricity. Threatened by Tesla and Westinghouse's widely adopted alternating currents, AC power system, Edison built out his direct current D.C. stations while deploying ruthless public relations campaigns to undermine his rival's credibility. As the three men urgently took their products to market and built out supporting infrastructure, corporations on the periphery also competed for market share, including brush electricity company, which installed its arc lighting solutions in key regions including New York City. The AC system went out and became the gold standard underlying all electrification. An important lesson remains for those developing new architecture. The best technology can drive only when it is also widely adopted. After developing the AC system, Tesla devoted much of his life to revolutionizing wireless electricity. The inventor envisioned infinite energy via a global network of towers that would electrify the world without wires.

CryptoGlobe
ADA IOGs Chief Commercial Officer on Cardano Very Few Whales, Very Few Insiders
"7 p.m. Sunday, December 11th, 2022. ADA IoT's chief commercial officer on cardano, very few whales, very few insiders. In a recent interview, Jerry Francisco's chief commercial officer at input output global, IO G, the blockchain technology firm responsible for the development of cardano ADA, explained what makes cardano different from many other blockchain projects. According to a report by the daily hobble, frantics made his comments during an episode of Scott melker podcast that was.

InsideBitcoins
Internet of Things IoT Tokens Price Prediction VET, MIOTA, HNT, and IOTX
"7 a.m. Monday, December 5th, 2022 Internet of Things IoT tokens price prediction vt, and IoT X the coins indicated below have plummeted to the bottom of the chart. For example, HMT and vt have fallen to historical lows of 2.29 and

Bitcoin Market Journal
Sector Report Internet of Things IoT Tokens in 2023
"5 p.m. Thursday, December 1st, 2022. Sector report Internet of Things IoT tokens in 2023. The Internet of Things sector has been growing and is expected to attract billions of dollars in capital in the coming decade. Here are some of the strongest IoT players for your review. The post sector report Internet of Things IoT tokens, and 2023 appeared first on Bitcoin market journal.

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Car. Just like we'll see. Okay let's talk about positive news in the legal front california. Legislators have passed a bill in the house in may and their upper chamber is expected to vote on it next week on algorithm mic accountability. Basically this is pushing back against the productivity measurements. That amazon is allegedly using in their warehouses. And these are things that invoke quota systems that track mon and monitor people's motions and if they're packing quickly enough and that sort of things so this is basically this law is saying. Hey we want to know exactly what you're looking for in these systems and if these are going to hurt workers we're going to block them. Yeah this this reminds me of the amazon approach that we talked about maybe a month or two ago with the installation of driver monitoring cameras in the delivery vehicles. Both of those instances strike me as a bridge. Between human and robotic capabilities in terms of fulfillment. And the thing is it's like we're in a transition and i'm not saying robots are going to deliver your stuff or whatever they do. Use robots to gather inventory. I know that in certain places but in this transition we're treating the human capital like robots. Yes replying these algorithms like we would for any system monitoring to see is the robot working up to snuff applying to humans right now and that's not cool. It isn't now. I would say i have an issue with this bill so this bill doesn't call out amazon by damon and talks about warehouse workers. Here's my problem i think. Instead of going and writing a bill for a specific class of workers. I would like to see well. At the federal level. I would like to see osha empowered with disability but eden a state regulatory body. I would like to see whoever whichever regulatory body in the state is responsible for worker safety to actually start looking at this across all industries. So i don't want a bill written for every single industry because that gives industries themselves too much power to step in and lobby for things that were better for them. I would like to see accountability for ai. Responsible for monitoring worker performance applied across the board. And i would like to have that conversation. And maybe they're special. Industry carve outs that we do but i really think that this should not be one bill per industry type thing. So that's just my take right there. The accents snow like a high level framework that applies globally in the us. And yet you can have either exceptions or additions based on certain certain markets. Yeah yeah so. That's i mean. I'm glad that they're doing this. I wish they were doing in a slightly different way. But i do think it's important that it gets done. That you know have accountability into these things all right. Let's talk about bad news. Kevin you wanna you wanna just drop the bomb on all of us. I almost skipped this story. Because i figured people are tired of hearing us talk about the insecurity telnet but there's more than just tell them that in this. This is a report from the security folks over at kaspersky and they're saying the attacks on iot devices have doubled in a year and they're basing that information on the many many many many honeypots they create to simulate i- ot devices and other systems. So i started looking at the numbers and mike. Oh yeah tell not double. From four hundred sixty million taxed eight hundred seventy two million between the second half of twenty twenty and the first half twenty twenty one. And i'm like this is not a story but then they also added a tax on ssh or over s. h. n. Web those are up four. Fold for the honeypot testing. And that's concerning to me. It's almost like the telnet's guys are like. Yeah we know we can hack this. Let's move on s. h. In web and the tackle these iot devices. So that's really concerning to me agreed. I'm not loving this. So hey don't treat your home like a honeypot have good passwords. Do factor good passwords. I know it's the same thing. I wish we had more that we offer here than the same old. These are the things you should be doing all the time. But until there's either some new technology or some new way of adding security i. i don't know what else we can offer to people. There's nothing all right. Hazy wave lovers. I have good news for you. A couple of them there are guilt. Love your about it. So there's a company called thinker and they have created a z wave controller called think z. Wave and it is the first home kit certified z. Wave controller and it works with more than thirty three hundred z. Wave products for apple. Home kit users. So this is a dutch company and the price of this really want this. Yeah you're going to have to really want this because this is four hundred twenty nine euros or five hundred and seven dollars. Us but if it's the basis of your smart home this may be worth it to you. I don't know and yeah. I think that's really all there is to say about that. I think a lot of people will be happy especially the people who have dozens of the wave sensors in their homes. I mean if their home kit obviously the this is great if not then somewhat but you could also use home bridge to do this so you don't have to buy this crazy have if you don't want to but if you're into that it's there it's probably a little easier in other news other product news. We've got a dog collar then. Cesar milan is attached. Its name to it. So kevin's already on board but this is a dog color called halo and there's a lot of smart dog collars but kevin. Why don't you tell us why you're so excited about this. Okay first of all. This is not something i would buy because it costs seven hundred dollars discounted putting that aside. This is rather interesting to me because we had an invisible fence at our old house. Were not allowed to have invisible fences here in town community and we have to have our dogs on leashes technically but not every falls at so..

AI Today Podcast: Artificial Intelligence Insights, Experts, and Opinion
From FORMULA ONE to AI: An Interview With Alex Castrounis
"Welcome. Alex so excited that you're here. We'd like to start by having you introduce yourself to our listeners. Tell them a little bit about your background. And why you started the ai with youtube channel and maybe also you know what is why of ai. Absolutely so thanks again. A super excited to be here of again. I'm alex julius. I'm a founder of two companies. Actually one's into architect any others. Why on the author of a book called a. i. for people in business framework for better humane experiences in business success now also an adjunct at northwestern university kellogg Teaching a as part of their. In the i graduate program And so yeah. I got into a quite a long time ago. So i have sort of a strange unusual kind of career path but Used to work in indycar racing for about ten years so it was a race strategist engineer. Any data scientists in indycar racing Sort of set my sights on that When i was actually in highschool i kind of made a decision to go into that field. I had seen very first indy. Five hundred when i was like junior high school blew me away. I guess i'm doing that for sure for living someday. In a defendant pursued that and then you know sir fast for after college got my first opportunity in the professional sports industry in these cars you know. They have eighty ninety sensors on them. That are measuring. Everything you can imagine from. Temperatures pressure is to displacements two rotations. To forces the everything. And so it's like literally iot an iot system moving at like two hundred fifty miles an hour that sending data over the airwaves in telemetry all this but really also data in the truest sense of big data because just mounds mounds of data

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Waste a bunch of that on unnecessary functionality. You'd like to devote as much as you possibly can to doing. Whatever it is that you want that device to do. So there's a i think there's an era of increased specialization coming up. But it's not just a matter of saying. I have an algorithm. Let's make some hardware that does there's a lot of complexity around that and the again the focus on performance per watt per dollar helps us to frame those discussions. Well awesome. so. I'm just gonna run run through something if i'm if i'm thinking of silicon chips in my devices. I can focus on performance. So that's albany megahertz or gigahertz or many cores at runs are different options. There i can think about cost like just the cost of the silicon itself so as is going to be an expensive thing to build. I can think about power consumption. And i can think i should. I be thinking about flexibility with that. I'm thinking about things like hey we don't always know like how an algorithm like because we're doing so much more machine learning rate one algorithm might be optimized one way versus another so. Do you want a chip. That can do both albums. Is the job big enough that you need a dedicated thing to run only that one algorithm and i think that probably goes back to the cost of the chip because they're still economies of scale here. So is that kind of the way people should be thinking about. I guess selecting or designing their own silicon. Now that's exactly right so when you look at something like a neuro processor when arm was looking at how to design our own neuro processors we were thinking about what are the existing machine learning algorithms combination or in conversational neural nets. And so on. And how do we adopt future. How do we design a thing. That's future proof to some extent that future algorithms will in future ways of doing machine. Learning will also run on this object. And so there's a there's a set of thought processes you have to go through to design something that's able to handle expected improvements in future design. You do the same thing on a product level of. Do i want to upgrade the firmware. In this object at some point will i need to because of security considerations. So you you wanted again. You want to design with a as much specialization as you can. Within the context of there may be some changes in the future. That i will have to adopt. So we're we're actually seeing. I think a fairly strong in internet of things world demand for combinations of microcontrollers and neuro processing units. So i think there's a the that particular combination iot space offers a lot of flexibility to do fair amount of local machine learning at a reasonable power budget. Okay so should. I think about adding flexibility. So i know we've got price performance per what which covers performance and how it costs and energy usage. But should we also start thinking about bringing flexibility into their. I think yeah at some extent. I think that that is a consideration of anyone. Doing system design. Is you have a one end of the spectrum. You could design a mac has circuit. That was completely dedicated to your particular workload in could do nothing else. So that's extremely power efficient but it's also extremely inflexible and on the other end. You have a classic cpu where you could program to do. Whatever you wanted and software but its performance would be lower than the A can its power. Consumption would be higher but at the same time. It's it's effectively as flexible as you can get so when you design something you want to be somewhere on that spectrum and where we want to be i think in the future as i think. We want to have as much flexibility as we can get while still operating efficiently within power envelope. That's going to remain either constant or shrink okay. So and i'm taking you a little far afield on the power thing. But i think it's worth discussing is part of the bigger system designed package right. So how do we address the fact that it most of the large tech companies whether they're worried about servers or maybe they're designing chips for their cellphones their doing their own silicon designs because they have a huge footprint for their products. So it makes sense for them to do that. What do you say to any other team trying to build products. That obviously is like well. I can't design my own. Silicon to optimize all of these things. What does that mean for of the little guys trying to compete with some of the bigger companies out there. I think there are several ways to look at the answer. So one being that if you look at what a lotta these hyper scaler. People are putting into silicon. They're putting things into silicon that provide a functionality for them in their say data center environment. That just does not exist in commercial chip and it makes the economics of doing that for them are very different than somebody showing chip on the open market that they want have a task that needs doing. The chip itself doesn't have to make a profit just has to make sure that whatever function they wanna do is done more efficiently on the other. Hand the idea that say a small group of people can't get together and build a shop. I think it's it depends how you come at the problem and again going back to moore's law world if you look at designing a chip in one thirty nanometer or one eighty nanometer. It doesn't take that much effort. It's you know it might cost several hundred million dollars to build a five nanometer chip but three people in six months you can build a one eighty nanometer chips. There are some opportunities especially in iot space for customized silicon for very specific applications. It's just that at the moment. The skill set required to do that is still somewhat challenging. But i think that the slowing of moore's law and as you mentioned before economies of scale in that over time we're going to see actually access to these crosses become easier simply because that's where the market is going to have to go. It's there won't be. So many people you can sell a one point five nanometer or fifteen angstrom or however you want to describe it chip too but lots of people will still want to one eighty one and that will migrate to ninety sixty five twenty eight and so on time and that opens up an era of i think actually more hardware design but by people who are less concerned with squeezing the last Pico second out of their design and more concerned with how can this piece of silicon optimized my overall system and again performance. Per what dollar with as you mentioned degree of flexibility is really. I think a key way to look at that. I like that. I like that idea because we are very focused on the in the in the world and even mainstream reporting around. Semiconductors is very much about like moving down to note. So how many. How many nanometers are you at. But there are plenty of fabs that are still producing at one hundred. Thirty eight hundred eighty nanometers. And i know things like sensors and moms are all produced at those. I guess older fabs bigger chips..

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Two six two three seven four two four. And this week's voicemail comes to us from billy and he's asking about in st on and telnet so it's like a blast from the past. Let's hear high in kevin. This is billy and montana. I had a question about helmet. So i have an inch dion. Smart lighting system in my house and i'm using the. Is y. nine nine. Four i guess or automation bridge or whatever you wanna call it. I really like it. And i'm using home assistant as the main sort of software that runs everything and The is y basically. Just bring that into homelessness. But i believe the connection protocols for the ice y. Hub is helmet. And while i don't have it attached to the internet on my my home network my land and so i was wondering if there's vulnerabilities there even though it's not attached to the internet is on my land and if anything i can do other than just using something different because i do really love the machine. Okay so billy. I actually used that same. I s y ninety nine four. I mean it's basically a headless server. So you it's just a box that runs volleyer instarem gear. I use that back in twenty ten. I know they've updated it. It's great have total control over everything which is a wonderful thing. You're also running home assistant. So i presume you've got on a raspberry pi in your house. And i know you can interconnect your dion hub and home assistant. So that's awesome. Here's my thought and it's probably you're not going to like it. I obviously don't use the my stone anymore. I've moved onto various various platforms between amazon google samsung apple etc. I worry about telnet in my home. I would not want anything that uses telnet for communication just because there are so many telnet exploits out there. We've covered them time and time again. That not saying that the keeping your gear will guarantee some type of network exploit. But i don't know how to protect it from a telnet exploit personally i would move onto something more modern that uses more modern communications such as amputee or or some other communications protocols. I just don't think i would stick with the instinct on. And i know there's going to be people that do not like my answering. Were probably get some hate mail. And i understand that i expect it but me personally. I would tell that in my house camera systems and things that use telnet are notorious for vulnerabilities. You end a lot of these devices. Can't be updated with like secure enclaves or some other hardware based security functionality. So what happens. Is you get a lot of hackers targeting these systems. Just because it hasn't been targeted yet doesn't mean it won't be and you really can't retrofit at the hardware level. You just have to move on to something more modern which is why we're recommending this. I know you're not gonna like it. I'm really sorry. But if he's happy using home assistant right now. The switchover probably would be lessened because certain devices that are instinct only could be replaced by something that works with home assistant whereas if he didn't have anything but the instant system he'd have to replace everything potentially that is true so we're sorry too bad news but we want you to be secure. This is literally what you has. He asked to her opinion. And i'm not saying you gotta do it. That is true. This is all up to you. My friend all right. Well if you would like to ask us a question and deliver more bad news or real talk for you give us a call at five one two two six three seven four two four and you will be entered to win a smart speaker of your choice and now it is time for the guest segment. We will be talking to rob aitken from arm about the end of moore's law why we're focusing on price performance per and what kind of innovations we can expect for the iot that don't involve basically cramming board transistors on a chip so stay tuned for that and now a word from our sponsor this sponsor is barry. Hey everybody we are taking a quick break from the internet of things podcast for a message from our sponsor this week sponsor is very a leading iot engineering firm and fans of this. Podcast might be interested to know that very has launched a podcast of its own about the iot space called the over. The air podcast. And i have ryan prosser the ceo of very ryan. I'd love for you to share a little bit about the podcast with our listeners. Today they see. Yeah sure thing. The podcast is called over the air. Iot connected devices in the journey and so far we've had a lot of big guess on including the former. Ceo boeing who's gone on to raise a bunch of money for iot initiatives in space. I also recently interviewed the ceo of monarch motors who've developed essentially tesla for tractors. All right. so tell us why did you start this. Podcast rather than outcomes. We really wanted to dive into the journey and share those experiences with the audience aka. What went right. What went wrong and how our listeners can bake those lessons into their own iot initiatives. You're gonna hear business leaders cheering. You know kind of word signal lessons. They've learned and that hopefully gets them thinking. Oh my god. I would've made that mistake. I love it. I love that kind of show. So what can you tell us about the types of things. You'll be focused on one thing that i personally am really passionate about is unpacking and exploring the missteps and some of the scar tissue related to those lessons learned especially mistakes. That didn't appear to be mistakes at the outset. Why was that not the correct path. What would you have done differently. Things like that. What we a lot of very and we see hundreds of these major engagements a year is that there aren't nearly as many unique problems as you'd expect. There are a lot of common mistakes. That are avoidable. They're incredibly difficult but rarely unique. And if you see enough repetitions patterns start to emerge in our goal for the audiences for them to get those repetitions or some of those repetitions by curiously through these interviews we really love it when clients ask us. I wonder how company x. Solve this problem because it looks and feels a lot like what we're dealing with since we have those repetitions. We often know the answer. So if anyone listening to this has their own amazing story to tell or know someone who does or. They wish that you would cover a certain topic. What is the best way for them to reach out to your team to suggest guests or topics for.

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Six two three seven four two four. And this week's voicemail comes to us from billy and he's asking about in st on and telnet so it's like a blast from the past. Let's hear high in kevin. This is billy and montana. I had a question about helmet. So i have an inch dion. Smart lighting system in my house. And i'm using the irs. Y nine nine. Four i guess or automation bridge or whatever you wanna call it. I really like it. And i'm using home assistant As the main sort of software that runs everything and The is y basically. Just bring that into homelessness. But i believe the connection protocols for the ice y. Hub is helmet. And while i don't have it. Attached to the internet is on my my home network. My land and so. I was wondering if there's vulnerabilities there even though it's not attached to the internet is on my land and if anything i can do other than just using something different because i do really love the machine. Okay so billy. I actually used that same. I s y ninety nine four i. it's basically a headless server so you. It's just a box that runs volleyer instarem gear. I use that back in twenty ten. I know they've updated it. It's great have total control over everything which is a wonderful thing. You're also running home assistant. So i presume you've got on a raspberry pi in your house. And i know you can interconnect your dion hub and home assistant. So that's awesome. Here's my thought and it's probably you're not going to like it. I obviously don't use the my stone anymore. I've moved onto various various platforms between amazon google samsung apple etc. I worry about telnet in my home. I would not want anything that uses telnet for communication just because there are so many telnet exploits out there. We've covered them time and time again. That not saying that the keeping your gear will guarantee some type of network exploit. But i don't know how to protect it from a telnet exploit personally i would move onto something more modern that uses more modern communications such as amputee or or some other communications protocols. I just don't think i would stick with the instant on. And i know there's going to be people that do not like my answering. Were probably get some hate mail. And i understand that i expect it but me personally. I would tell that in my house camera systems and things that use telnet are notorious for vulnerabilities. You end a lot of these devices. Can't be updated with like secure enclaves or some other hardware based security functionality. So what happens. Is you get a lot of hackers targeting these systems. Just because it hasn't been targeted yet doesn't mean it won't be and you really can't retrofit at the hardware level. You just have to move on to something more modern which is why we're recommending this. I know you're not gonna like it. I'm really sorry. But if he's happy using home assistant right now. The switchover probably would be lessened because certain devices that are instinct only could be replaced by something that works with home assistant whereas if he didn't have anything but the instant system he'd have to replace everything potentially that is true so we're sorry too bad news but we want you to be secure. This is literally what you has. He has to her opinion. And i'm not saying you gotta do it. That is true. This is all up to you. My friend all right. Well if you would like to ask us a question and deliver more bad news or real talk for you give us a call at five one two two six three seven four two four and you will be entered to win a smart speaker of your choice and now it is time for the guest segment. We will be talking to rob aitken from arm about the end of moore's law why we're focusing on price performance per what and what kind of innovations we can expect for the iot that don't involve basically cramming transistors on a chip so stay tuned for that and now a word from our sponsor this sponsor is barry. Hey everybody we are taking a quick break from the internet of things podcast for a message from our sponsor this week sponsor is very a leading iot engineering firm and fans of this. Podcast might be interested to know that very has launched a podcast of its own about the iot space called the over. The air podcast. And i have ryan prosser the ceo of very ryan. I'd love for you to share a little bit about the podcast with our listeners. Today they see. Yeah sure thing. The podcast is called over the air. Iot connected devices in the journey and so far we've had a lot of big guess on including the former. Ceo boeing who's gone on to raise a bunch of money for iot initiatives in space. I also recently interviewed the ceo of monarch motors who've developed essentially tesla for tractors. All right. so tell us why did you start this. Podcast rather than outcomes. We really wanted to dive into the journey and share those experiences with the audience aka. What went right. What went wrong and how our listeners can bake those lessons into their own iot initiatives. You're gonna hear business leaders cheering. You know kind of word signal lessons. They've learned and that hopefully gets them thinking. Oh my god. I would've made that mistake. I love it. I love that kind of show. So what can you tell us about the types of things. You'll be focused on one thing that i personally am really passionate about is unpacking and exploring the missteps and some of the scar tissue related to those lessons learned especially mistakes. That didn't appear to be mistakes at the outset. Why was that not the correct path. What would you have done differently. Things like that. What we a lot of very and we see hundreds of these major engagements a year is that there aren't nearly as many unique problems as you'd expect. There are a lot of common mistakes. That are avoidable. They're incredibly difficult but rarely unique. And if you see enough repetitions patterns start to emerge in our goal for the audiences for them to get those repetitions or some of those repetitions by curiously through these interviews we really love it when clients ask us. I wonder how company x. Solve this problem because it looks and feels a lot like what we're dealing with since we have those repetitions. We often know the answer. So if anyone listening to this has their own amazing story to tell or know someone who does or. They wish that you would cover a certain topic. What is the best way for them to reach out to your team to suggest guests or topics for.

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Five dollars a month. This is crazy. Revolutionary pricing spacex is doing broadband thirty different satellite bands so the type of spectrum. They're using spacex is in the k. k. Huband and swarm is using the vhf spectrum. Vhs but it is not the tapes. The betamax spektrum. We're talking about very high frequency. Why did this deal happen is basically what everyone's like. Wait this makes no sense. Who but it does. I think oh it do you think it does. We'll tell me why you think it makes sense. Why do because spacex is as you said putting out satellites to bring mobile broadband broadband should say to all areas of the globe. That's the idea. Cover the globe with satellite-based internet service for people that maybe you know don't live in urban areas don't have choice of their home broadband provider etcetera. And they're trying to do that at a reasonable price blood. There's nothing really to do with the iot. With what spacex currently delivering however as we know iot data has to get around the globe as well for tracking for example package tracking supply chain information. So we've basically leveraged terrestrial type signals to do that regular networks either wifi or laura or cellular or whatever it might be but why not have this in space. Why not have some alternative at a low cost. We talked about cost last week for smart cities and how they're very high in the us versus. Maybe not so high in europe. What if there was a global iot network that for five bucks a month. You can have your sensor. Send seven hundred fifty data packets a month exactly so i do think this is. I think this is really two things. One it gets spacex in other business. Opportunity was working on delivering real broadband to more places some people. It's still literally service. We'll just leave it at that now. Swarm is also an early service. But they do have one hundred and fifty. Small sets out in the air. Little nino sets and their connectivity is actually really good actually testing. They're evil kit right. Now and next week will put that out as a review but this is a legit technology for sensors. It also gets elon. Musk to really good tech people. The company was founded by sarah spangolo and been longmire and spangolo has worked on small sas and she was elite systems engineer at nasa jet propulsion lab and at google x long mir has sold a company to apple and is just all around a known entity so what we've got is to superstars building out a an ancillary network for space x basically so they get the people they get this kind of cool business. That's already up and running. And they get. I get another revenue stream and there's something else that we probably haven't talked about much because it may be too early satellite to satellite communication center data from one going to another. Maybe there's a loss of connectivity in one satellite and it can't transmit it sensor data back to the planet but could transmit to another satellite with the swarm technology and the net one could could do so. I think there's a future opportunity for for this type of network in space. I hadn't thought about that. And i will say also the next big wave of innovation in satellites outside of dano sats cubesats basically these smaller sets that you can shove up. They're very easily or inexpensively. I should say the next big kind of iteration is going to be in software that helps manage collisions or rather avoid collisions help optimize for demand those sorts of things so like a very reactive piece of software based on customer experience down on earth. And i think that these are two people who could help build something like that. So i'm excited about this deal. Congratulations and look forward. Next week to our swarm review next up another company that we have known loved for years. Helium they just raised hundred and eleven million and they did it via a token sales. So the helium network tokens. They sold one hundred and eleven million of them. To andriessen horowitz. Well it was the sale. Led by andriessen horowitz. Other companies also participated. The purpose of this funding is apparently to boost helium. Five g. network coverage. Let's divide the story up to two one. I'm going to tell you what he was trying to do too. We'll talk about the five g. network stuff. Helium is a four now. It is a low power wide area broadband networks. So they're using laura they also have what helium calls their long five protocol. Basically they're building a sensor network. It's distributed it's a mesh if you run these helium minors. You're providing coverage in as part of providing coverage. You're getting a fraction of a token a helium network token exchange companies. That want to use helium network by these tokens and thus kind of his. I don't want to say inflate the value. But that's what the value set against these companies are going to buy. These tokens in exchange for a data credit. And that means they get data. They can send data around on the helium network so basically helium messing with the economics of low power wide area networks to make it super cheap. And that's great. That's the same thing. Amazon is doing with sidewalk. Network to be clear if you have a helium hotspot slash minor. You're providing the internet connection for the sensor data to go where it needs to go. Yes i look. I have a minor. I am providing network coverage. I'm sending and receiving laura data from it and it's going to the internet through my home wifi so that is how that works what they're also doing back in april. Helium said that they were working with freedom fi to build a a similar decentralized token powered five g. network that uses the cpr spam so the funding is supposed to be for the decentralized peer to peer five g. Network that helium is building out. This requires new miners. That are going to work in this particular spectrum band which is actually in the three point five gigahertz band so this isn't going to be your existing minors. They're not going to work on the five g. network. They don't have those radios but the idea here is that you're going to pay people in helium network tokens to set up five g. hotspots everywhere and then do back haul on that. I think this is a harder sell for a couple of reasons. Five g. networks can send a lot more data. It's unclear how that's gonna work. It's not like right now. For example i can't really overwhelmed my network connection but if i were on like a certain type of connection. I don't think i could support a five g. That's massive bandwidth potential there. So that's one too. It's unclear what devices are going to use this right now. Because the cbs band running five g. Over that means you have to have to five g. Devices that support that band we just did the spectrum auction for that last year. So we don't have those devices really. They're not out in the field jet they're being developed in most people who are deploying. This are deploying. This is some sort of private area factory network. So i don't see how the decentralized nature of this comes into play so i don't know if you have thoughts on that. Yeah i mean. I appreciate what healing is trying to do here. You know they're doing this whole decentralize quote unquote the people's network. And i think it works really well for something. Such as laura woman a sensor networks and so on it's similar in a sense to amazon sidewalk network only it's not as proprietary. I guess would be the best word but when it comes to five g. now you're going to compete against established carriers who bid on that spectrum. We don't know what they're gonna do with it. I mean we can assume that they'll integrate those. I mean some of the companies that bid on it like. At and t. v. rising. Oh yeah but we also have john deere bid on it sodas chevron so did i think a couple universities and that makes sense because if you wanna private five g. network in your john deere you could do it this way so maybe we'll see is. At and t. In these companies invest in this space invest in helium. That would be a really interesting. I mean i can't see them going after their business model that way but niro five g. is expensive and requires a lot of released smart antennas and this is where i think the the stumbling block is going to come into play. We know that there are no current say consumer devices for example phones or tablets that have these radio frequency..

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Be cute print. i have been there. I have have named cute device names and then a no one knows what they're called b. It's confusing for it might devices. They're not good with certain things. So broad rules. I would say go with multiple syllables. Two to three syllables. The right amount of syllables. For a digital assistant one syllable words can be really tough them to understand. It's like dogs to use names that work. So there's two series of thoughts here one. You could name everything like bulb. One living room bob to living room and then i'm assuming these senior living room and then you would also group them together under living room but as an added bonus when you say turn on living room lights any light that has living room is gonna turn on and you wouldn't even have group them or you can create a group. That gives you flexibility. Turn on an individual light. And i used to use numbers like that but i stopped. No wait so that's for people who don't wanna turn on individual lights that's just for people are like. I just went all the lights of this room to turn out. If you wanted to turn on individual lights i get cute but i don't get like mushroom cute. I get cute. Like i either. Described the lamp or light itself. Or i describe what. It's gonna light up so i have a over my dining room table. I have the table lamp. I have because. I don't have any overhead lights in my house because it's old. I have a five hundred dollar lamp from room and board. Y'all it's so pretty though anyway that is called the fancy limp because it is fancy possibly. I should have called it. The sofa lamp because it lights up the sofa. But didn't that's how you should start thinking about doing your naming 'cause then it makes it easy for people come in and turn things on. And it is not super cutesy bingo. It's intuitive and descriptive. And that's the way i ended up going after multiple different iterations. I say salt lamb for my salt limp and tv land for the lamp next to the tv and so on the challenge of this is when i moved fancy lamp out of the living room. I'm going to have to create a new routine depending like when i turned the living room on and off rate. So i'm gonna have to do that. I've a free standing lamp in my study. That is called ready steady lamp. Who so if. I moved study lamp into or the bulb inside study lamp into the living room. That means i have to go in and rename everything create new routines. It's pain so if you're planning on moving things around a lot. I would do. Descriptions of the lamb. I mean i don't do a lot of routine so i'm probably again in the minority. We've had this chat before but just for me to move things. It's just a rename of the bulb and then adding it to moving from one group to another for the most part. That's just simple got it. yes and so. That's what i would recommend for you and you know you might also want to create an upstairs downstairs routine or if you want a group it. That's actually not a routine. That's just a grouping. So i'm hoping that helps you somewhat in your journey and simple keep it simple as simple as possible and multiple syllables. Okay and if you would like to give us a call remember you can reach us at five one two six two three seven four two four and you will also be enter to win the august drawing with who okay. That concludes the dues portion of the show. Please stay tuned for our guest. Sean cooley. who is the ceo of mapped end up. Message from our sponsor this sponsor is very take everyone. We are taking a quick break from the internet of things. Podcast for a message from our sponsor this week sponsor is very a leading iot engineering firm and i have bill flaherty here. Who is the hardware practice lead very ready to talk to us all right bills so i understand that your team has a fairly unique approach to hardware development. Can you tell me a little bit about that. Yeah that's right. Stacey most harder element practices are decades old and well software development practices. Have of all hardware is mostly stuck in the twentieth or even nineteenth centuries instead of accepting the status quo. We've got a new way of doing things. Agile hardware development. All right agile hardware development. That sounds interesting but what does that actually mean. Well just like their software. Agile hardware focuses on encouraging tight team. Collaboration const interaction with the customer and being receptive change rather than tied to a requirements document. We focused on designing and prototyping small bites of work instead of trying to engineer the whole system all at once that us to quickly identify issue sooner and get to market faster. Excellent so very is a one hundred percent remote company..

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Be cute print. i have been there. I have have named cute device names and then a no one knows what they're called b. It's confusing for it might devices. They're not good with certain things. So broad rules. I would say go with multiple syllables. Two to three syllables. The right amount of syllables. For a digital assistant one syllable words can be really tough them to understand. It's like dogs to use names that work. So there's two series of thoughts here one. You could name everything like bulb. One living room bob to living room and then i'm assuming these senior living room and then you would also group them together under living room but as an added bonus when you say turn on living room lights any light that has living room is gonna turn on and you wouldn't even have group them or you can create a group. That gives you flexibility. Turn on an individual light. And i used to use numbers like that but i stopped. No wait so that's for people who don't wanna turn on individual lights that's just for people are like. I just went all the lights of this room to turn out. If you wanted to turn on individual lights i get cute but i don't get like mushroom cute. I get cute. Like i either. Described the lamp or light itself. Or i describe what. It's gonna light up so i have a over my dining room table. I have the table lamp. I have because. I don't have any overhead lights in my house because it's old. I have a five hundred dollar lamp from room and board. I know y'all. It's so pretty though anyway. That is called the fancy limp because it is fancy possibly. I should have called it. The sofa lamp because it lights up the sofa. But didn't that's how you should start thinking about doing your naming 'cause then it makes it easy for people come in and turn things on. And it is not super cutesy bingo. It's intuitive and descriptive. And that's the way i ended up going after multiple different iterations. I say salt lamb for my salt limp and tv land for the lamp next to the tv and so on the challenge of this is when i moved fancy lamp out of the living room. I'm going to have to create a new routine depending like when i turned the living room on and off rate. So i'm gonna have to do that. I've a free standing lamp in my study. That is called ready steady lamp. Who so if. I moved study lamp into or the bulb inside study lamp into the living room. That means i have to go in and rename everything create new routines. It's pain so if you're planning on moving things around a lot. I would do. Descriptions of the lamb. I mean i don't do a lot of routine so i'm probably again in the minority. We've had this chat before but just for me to move things. It's just a rename of the bulb and then adding it to moving from one group to another for the most part. That's just simple got it. yes and so. That's what i would recommend for you and you know you might also want to create an upstairs downstairs routine or if you wanna group it. That's actually not a routine. That's just a grouping. So i'm hoping that helps you somewhat in your journey and simple keep it simple as simple as possible and multiple syllables. Okay and if you would like to give us a call remember you can reach us at five one two six two three seven four two four and you will also be enter to win the august drawing with who okay. That concludes the dues portion of the show. Please stay tuned for our guest. Sean cooley. who is the ceo of mapped and up. Message from our sponsor. This sponsor is very tae everyone. We are taking a quick break from the internet of things. Podcast for a message from our sponsor this week sponsor is very a leading iot engineering firm and i have bill flaherty here. Who is the hardware practice lead very ready to talk to us all right bills so i understand that your team has a fairly unique approach to hardware development. Can you tell me a little bit about that. Yeah that's right. Stacey most harder element practices are decades old and well software development practices. Have of all hardware is mostly stuck in the twentieth or even nineteenth centuries instead of accepting the status quo. We've got a new way of doing things. Agile hardware development. All right agile hardware development. That sounds interesting but what does that actually mean. Well just like their software. Agile hardware focuses on encouraging tight team. Collaboration const interaction with the customer and being receptive change rather than tied to a requirements document. We focused on designing and prototyping small bites of work instead of trying to engineer the whole system all at once that us to quickly identify issue sooner and get to market faster. Excellent so very is a one hundred percent remote company..

Sway
Kara Goes to the Olympics
"Dick pound welcome to sway. Thanks days to be with you. So i wanted to start by breaking down this decision to go forward in the tokyo olympics in february twenty twenty told associated press. That was more likely the games would be cancelled rather than postpone. Did you want to cancel. Or was that a prediction noah at the time i it looked like the organizers in the iot were in one of these school picnic things with a three legged race marching resolutely towards this precipice. And you have to. It's not going to happen. In twenty twenty and the old system was kind of binary a lighter went ahead or you cancelled. But the tokyo organizers were so good that they said look maybe there's another alternative which is to postpone and we think we can hold this whole bowl of jello together for a year but no longer than a year and we said well. Listen that's certainly preferable to canceling so let's explore that option and that's where we've been ever since both jello and also could raise his over cliff. That's kind of interesting metaphors to use. When you were thinking about it. Why not just cancel and move on a man you got if nothing else you've got thousands and thousands of athletes from two hundred six countries who've been training for this event for years and years and years and we've never faced a postponement before we face cancellations due to wars on three occasions and thought was that you know within a year. We would know an awful lot more about kobe than we did. In february or early march of twenty twenty which is true. Why isn't important to the olympics in play. i think it's important for the athletes. Be for learning how to respond to game changers. Like a covert. I mean. it hasn't been as something on the scale for century. Nobody in living memory can remember the you know the spanish flu as it was called and frankly the world at large needs some good news of this

Code Story
Mapped CEO Wants to Simplify IoT Device Integrations
"During my time at cisco i very quickly realized that It was different from every other business. At cisco it was probably my third or fourth conversation After it come into the iot team where the customer looked at us and said have any of you actually been to oilrig. We sort of Looked around the room and nobody can say yes and so it led to lead the four years of really just visiting any customer could whether it was a manufacturing floor you know the roof of the building or the sub basement building going behind the scenes at an amusement park or you know into an oil refinery or out on an oil rig. I just wanted to feel the pain that the customer was going through and and really understand it. Firsthand and those sorts of of of discovery trips led to a repeated pattern that i kept seeing over again. You know i would get on on stage for various cisco events in say things like you know. Gartner predicts that there will be twenty five billion connected devices by twenty twenty five And then the next year it would drop to twenty two billion in the next to dropped a twenty billion and that mix of sort of the the numbers continuing to down into a right plus what. I was observing customers. Which was they would do a pilot in one of their environments and that pilot would take them a year to build and deploy and then they would go to move that pilot the next environment factory across the street or the refinery on the other side of the country and it turns out that all the work they had done for integration. All the work they had done to extract data out of those systems and bring it into the dashboards and the analytics they were trying to put together a had to be done again. It had to be done from scratch because that factory across the street or the refinery on the other side of the of the country had no sort of commonality with the systems that were in the first one where they built the pilot and again this was just a side effect of the various system. Integrators using whatever was the best set of tools at the time this pain of immigration plus the the the sort of droppings predictions of connected devices or iot devices. Them really got me thinking about what is the biggest problem that we have an iot or digitisation and the problem is that as we try to bring together all these devices in order to come up with transformative insights that complex relationships among the devices are aware that that transformative insect comes from and to do that. You have to deeply integrate with these systems. So if we can free up the industry from having to do all the integration manually and we can automate across the seas of of doing integration and sort of reverse engineering what humans had built in the first place. Then we can really start to open this industry at scale and allowed developers who may have never set foot on a factory or have never gone into a refinery to really start to build applications by just purely looking at data and starting to figure out ways to make sense of data rather than spending all their time on integration.

Software Engineering Daily
Timescale: Time Series Databases With Mike Freedman
"Mike. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. You started timescale in around twenty fourteen. And i wanna get a sense for why. Twenty fourteen was a time when a new category of database needed to be created. Because this was around the same time other time series databases also created. Yes so we originally created time scale really from our own need around that time. Twenty two thousand fourteen two thousand fifteen. My co-founder ni- jaekle carney. Who we go back many years. We kind of recent up and we we started thinking about. It was kind of a good time for both of us to think of what the next challenges are that we want to tackle and it seemed to us that there was this emerging trend of people talk about the digitisation were digital transformation. And i it feels like a somewhat of analyst. Turn but i think it's it's really responsive of what's happening in that if you think about the large big. It revolution it was about changing the back office. You know what was it used to be on. Paper was now in computers and what we saw was somewhat the same thing happened to basically every industry from heavy industry to shipping logistics to manufacturing both discrete and continuous and home. Not and so sometimes this gets blurred under iot kind of also think about it. More broadly as operational technology those which are not not necessarily bits but adams and a big part of that was actually collecting data of what those systems were doing. So it's about sensors and data and and and whatnot and so when we initially looked at this problem we were thinking about a type of data platform. We would want to build to make it easy to collect and store and analyze that type of data.

The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
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The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"You can correct me. If i'm wrong but You're working a little bit closer to the model. You don't have as much as much memory you don't as much computing power and therefore And so my inclination would would be to say therefore the execution of the running the algorithms which is what they call. Inference would be a little bit more challenging. But i didn't think that was such a big deal and so are you talking about. Just the inference running the code or you talking about making the autos on these smaller devices again relating to. Yeah no the inference on so yeah the effort on small devices. Estill compute ratio. Okay yeah but that's the way you want the cost if you can get your models or whatever you need to get on the device then you're not spending on your increase in the cost there as this really were it becomes the balancing act of of what features we're going to add and then what was returned to my investment. It had to do that. So one of the companies. I work with they had. They had everything in place they came and they had this Medical device and they already got millions and funding. They built the mental advice. They had data centers at cloud and then day was streamed back to data centers because they had some proprietary thing that need to be installed computers data centers And then ten million investors make like angels. Like any of the cost isn't really working. No it's never gonna work like you've you built a system without thinking it through like without an all your fires have calculators right. They will end your silicon partners that you should get out there. That can help me slow down. They will help you with pricing. So you can figure this out before you even higher. You know really have a staffer or whatever you can figure out if the viable system but then also you can figure out how adding the extra dollar to to the vice is for. Let's say safety system or or value. Add is to make you profit gonna add more or make by safer or wherever you need to do. I think you're bringing up a great point. I wanna dig into a little bit more and you're calling it a balancing act in the balancing act. Which is what. I want you to to to kind of peel fuel apart for us a little bit more. But you're going to be spending certain amount of money on the hardware and give you certain capabilities. So what exactly a balancing. Our you know the way i look at. We've got the first step is were building a model. And then we're executing a model them we're teaching and then we're improving the mon- steps. What is it do you look at a net framework. Or what's the balancing that you're talking about. Because the computing versus the costs are going back to the cloud. I would explain that a little bit. More while says it's main companies successful Is is is really what i've done in where i worked where we always end companies. Are you know. Sometimes the art successful right. They make the bad decisions is. It's really understanding what you're doing how that affects your overall cost your product or so some companies. You probably purchase the product of ninety product but without a recurring cost. You not being a monthly prescription for you bought a one time which which really means you're anything spent after that is that original cost So one of the things that we'd help customers understand was was figuring out you know for example the way you store dana if i started in a key value pair up the in the key value database is the least expensive and most expensive thing so if i do the typical table store for tear by. It's like when he was a month for that. Loretta is cash which is in memory. Databases twin seven thousand a month. Yes because is expensive everything in the mirror and have it always warm is incredibly expensive so everything ranges between a bunch of ways you could look blockchain people. Do you could use. All these other source tells akaka. It's all just understanding in the end and machine learning and how it all comes together as one price and how do you either sell for high enough rice that you'll never have to worry about shutting it off at something like charging reoccurring subscription because you don't get value add like doing maintenance and you're sending service techs out there and you lend ever snow brand new machine or just bring this part because now you've figuring all that out okay. Okay so what. I'm kind of getting from you is. We're kind of looking at a few things we're looking at. We're trying to balance again going back to the balancing balancing compute power bouncing memory and in balancing all say sample sampling which is going to be related. I guess to the other two. And the main messenger making i think is that It's really important. To understand the computational needs that you're going to have a who or in this case your a computation on your iot device so that you can make sure that you're spending the right amount of money on that edge so we're now talking you edge versus cloud you're spending enough money on that edge device so you're not having to go up to the cloud to do things like maybe store memory. Maybe do particular types calculations. M i kind of paraphrasing per facing you properly there. Yeah i think so. I drove to saying that as part of your system you'll have to figure out your office building material for your system yet to figure you're gonna have to figure that out as well as other gospel right and and then it's all after that all these things one could do. There's some two admission learning and and some of those you can. It goes back to the business. So.

The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclai
"I and i'm not insider lab. Mike radan coda fons from microsoft developers from which he wrote the recent book artificial intelligence for iot cookbook. As with all my guests right now. Mike is part of the digital operating partners ecosystem. Mike welcome to the show straight year. What was the motivation behind writing your book. I mean that's that's a. that's a pretty big endeavor. Well as part of the iot. Ai allows microsoft's three years and south up two hundred customers in all sorts of stages of developing iot products were new but some of them had already developed a product. We're having we're struggling to get going and really what i agree to is lighted might might be. She is rotation. I did on what makes companies successful in cloud computing And and part of that research found that for some companies in general companies. Do better when they go. The cloud day. They're more innovative. Things happen quicker and faster but for a certain segment of the population. They struggle right so they find that the cloud is is more prone to errors and bugs and they have issues whereas thoughts and the same. Sort of thing i've found when dealing with the cloud is a group of people that are not is gonna people that get it right in that the things and other people other groups of people for whatever reason they don't understand the concepts are they're not thinking things through end to end They they may be failed business. So as part of that engaged there that i was at microsoft i worked with companies that were in the state of failing right. They come in and they said hey mike. My cloud cost is is so high. How do i get down. And and the clock house was hikes. They didn't use like edge rights. There had pump everything up to the cloud from so for my company. They were doing voice activation and all that voice activation had the cloud when they can no longer for cloud although she stopped so and and we guarantee it as long as we can afford it all right all right and voice. Activation device is totally doable. This day and age right. It's really. The technology has changed in the past few years when i first started going. I was insanely heart. It took it took so long really easy things. And i don't know that about a year ago i put together project I did Three different algorithms for visual identification faces and objects and show people had customers. Come in and say what camera d'or need album gonna us and to show like for example heart gave even raspberry pi which is a small device. You can do several thirty frames per second. You're going to get along the same device which is a different algorithm. We're talking seconds per frame rights over twenty thirty seconds before you able to identify something for as the other ones fair fast and so people. Just don't know that that that information so that's the reason i wrote above well a couple of questions the first one is what was your in and the second one is I it was funny because last weekend. We went wine tasting with some really good friends of ours and he is so paranoid about being recorded. It was like it was crazy. And it's in. It's related to the voice activation. So the second question i wanna ask. You is exactly how this technology work. What i told them is sound comes in is listening but it's kind of an a buffer unless it's unless it's woken up or awaken than is not listening to it is not recording. You but maybe maybe start with the question number wider start requested number two and then tell us what your phd was was in. I just wanna understand for our listeners. How voice activation actually works. And should we be paranoid like my friend is about being recorded and despite on okay so far maybe he should be wrong. Issues right Let's start with the way jacket worth. So there's two different types of voice right this constantly listening trying to figure out what you're saying. And that's but i you generally say wakeford as the way where it is just lesson for the wayward and a good price. Activation system will alert you to let you know visually or the sound that you wake word And now than it knows your is now listening to you. Yeah and that part so the ethical concerns have come around with that that think is was was. It will well where they were. When they're having issues with understanding people's talking they want to retrain models and to do that they got the sound back and some of the sound that was unclear for the machines. Were people people are in doctor's office at the time to. They're doing things that were yet. Your nod. listen to or drug transactions. You know they're buying drugs are illegal So yeah there there have been gorse is. It's all brand new There's a lot of regulations are written and a lot of concerns. There's a whole groups that that just are concerned about ethics right. You can find us online and from your little honey with those ethics sure but but but again you know ethics aside the way the How the technology works you. Just mentioned listening may be hearing someone in a doctor's office may be hearing someone doing elicit trade. But when you say listen. I guess you have to define what listened means. Yeah i it's hearing it but is keeping it is then rocking it as a then putting into tax than storing it or going back to should people be worried about about this.

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Is that dmz that connects into potentially the enterprise the the it network from the ot networks. So there's a dmz their hypothetically. We hope there's some kind of secure dmc there and then on the very top of the model is your enterprise network. So that's that's your typical corporate network so even in this model that's existed for a long time. Which is the academic model. We used to kind of explain. How industrial network laid out. What protocols who use it. Each layer of the cake still were acknowledging that there's cross talk between the enterprise network on the operational network. That's probably going to happen. That's just the way things are typically laid out in twenty twenty one and why is that model important in. what should we. I. it's academic. But how can this influence how we think about iot security. Yes oh so. This model helps you understand that. Industrial networks are incredibly complex. There's a lot going on in them. They're not just like your typical computer network that highs some some routers switches and some computers. There are these layers of devices started with simple electronic sensors working all the way up to things like servers and on into the enterprise network so at each one of those levels are different types of devices that perform critical functions in the industrial network. And even people who are just starting to get their feet an industrial should have an idea of what each those devices kinda does and each of those layers talks using different protocols to the layers above and below it. So you had a lot of different network protocols in industrial environments and to do any type of security monitoring threat. Hunting incident response penetration testing. You have to understand that between each one those layers of the cake you have different protocols and they do different things in the communicate in different ways at all those protocols make up the industrial network so it really gives you an understanding of the complexity and all the different things that are going on in a typical industrial. That work man. I have so many gadgets. And i can't imagine knowing everything that's going on any network feels like okay. Well that's awesome all right knowing all of this one of the big challenges recently that we're seeing a lot of industrial hacksaw rather they're not even hacks that well they are. We're seeing a lot of ransomware and what's happening is a tax on the it. Networks are taking out the operational network. So one of these was the the recent meat-packing hack which we don't we don't have all the details yet and we probably won't for a while but it looks like ransomware. It cut related hack forced them to shut down their operations. So what is the rationale behind that. Or how does that happen. Had had a had his ransomware. Get from a tito. We'll lake i explained previously. There is a lot of cross. Even if it's well secured between the idea. Networks in organizations in their operational networks. So there's usually some kind of remote access going on and if that's compromised than an adversary can live off the land and use authorize credentials to get into a network or authorized protocols and not. That happens quite frequently or with any dmz. You can have flaws in your dmz. You can have unexpected protocols traversing it. So there are a lot of ways with these less robust. Emc's era between the it and the operational networks that things can get across and of course there's always devices to those networks to and there's sometimes out of ban connections into the operational environments from things like vendors or people bringing laptops in and out so there is a lot of cross talk going on there. There's a lot of ways that stuff can get from the it to the ot network but it doesn't necessarily require a compromise of the operational network itself to cause an operational disruption and. That's something we have to also be aware of because if companies can't do things like bill or even properly monitored remotely their industrial facilities that can cause an operational disruption without actually causing any direct risk to the low level industrial devices in their own network. So so there's multiple potential causes that ransomware attack could cause a disruption to operations simply by initially compromising the it network whether it gets over to the operational network or it just stays in the network and it causes a some kind of operational impact on that site dot. And i feel like a lot of our audience is very familiar with the. It security side. I have lots of. I come from the cloud computing background. I feel like lots of my audience is real familiar with that. But let's talk about when responding to a more industrial incident. So let's say somebody brought in a thing of them. As tainted usb sticks you plugged it into like bio reactor something there's at actual operational breach. What does that response look like. Because it's very different in the industrial world. The it world it is. It's very different. And you're going to get the pundits out there in if people who are trying to sell you something who are like. Oh if you know how to do. It incident response. You can do not answer response. And i came from the. It incident response world. And it'll be the first one to tell you that they are nothing alike and you need to know so much more to do to do. Ot incident response because first of all you need to be able to speak the language of the operators. Otherwise there's gonna be tragic mr mutations because health and safety again it's the number one concern and then followed by things safely operating production wise in industrial facilities. And if you don't understand that if you don't speak as priorities you're going to get kicked out facility. You need to needed to come in with the right personal protective equipment. You need to understand.

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Carl hart who is the principal. Industrial incident responder at dragos. Hello leslie how are you today. I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. How are you i am well in. Thank you for coming on the show. It feels like it's probably been a busy. How i don't know last six months. Few years hasn't stopped. i tell you it just. It just doesn't stop these days. Which is a bad bedding good from a perspective of interesting cases and then horrible things happening to people indeed. We're glad you're on work. Glad you're on the job so leslie is a an incident responder which means she is in the security world helping prevent and respond to attacks of all kinds. And so leslie if you want to just get started. Do you mind telling us how you got into this business because you you actually focused more on the operation side as opposed to the it site. Correct sir yeah. I do specialize on kind of nonstandard computer system so we're on the ics sight of things and the operational and is not side of things. And i've been interested in i. I got interested in digital forensics. When i was very very young. I've been working in. It for quite a long time. Since i was a teenager. But i've always wanted to do the investigative stuff. I've always had a blast. You know learning about how to take computers apart and figure out what they did in what people use them for. And i had to work for that there because it wasn't a a common field for a very long time. So i worked my way through a lot of odd jobs including spending time in the air force and working on avionics in my Odd assortment of jobs and adventures. I had a lot of exposure to really nonstandard non-typical computers that are all kinds of industrial automation scenarios. And so i got very familiar with working with those kinds of rugged iced and low level devices instead of just with. Pc's all the time so is a natural fit an important mission to because these industrial computers are everywhere. They surrounded Every day in our daily lives in even aware of them. It is true. And i would love to help. Educate people about how the industrial world thinks about security because it feels like on one hand. All of the hats are coming out now. And everyone's like. Oh my gosh everything's connected and other industrial stuff is vulnerable. But it's not like industrial engineers hem thought about security before so what has changed. It isn't so a few different things have changed. The first of all they are aware of cybersecurity. The vendors are the engineers are Operators are aware the life of computers in industrial environments is very different than it is an it so first of all the number one priority is keeping the power on keeping water. Coming out of place and keeping oil going through pipelines. And things like that. That's the number one priority and doing that safely without anybody getting hurt so cyber security always come second. You know Availability things like that. That's the priority of just getting the data through so that things operate the right time cycles. That's that's number one so we don't necessarily have the same priorities as at environments and also there's this this great cost savings to using commercial it equipment instead of specialized purpose built industrial equipment. Like we used to. It's much cheaper to start using commercial network switches. Ethernet things like that to send protocols and let devices communicate to one another instead of reinventing the wheel so there's been a big push over the last quarter century to migrate industrial devices to more familiar network technologies even if the devices are still different than rugged ice and things like that so we're adding in more. It elements and then of course since networks are more available in. The internet is ubiquitous. There is a great desire to internetwork things for to search sharing telemetry sharon control across wide regions and providing remote access for operators to maintain and repair things without having to drive across. You know great spaces. So there's great advantages to networking these systems in these devices. So a lot of what's happening is happening for efficiency sake can cost saving sake and ability to expand in better operate industrial networks. But at the same time we're conducting more things networks and therefore increasing increasing attack surface connecting devices that weren't necessarily intended to ever networked to it networks potentially even beyond that to the internet itself. And i think there's a good distinction to be made here between this idea of the traditional. It network that connects our computers and emails and the operational network that is inside a plant which may be connected to things inside a plant but may never be connected to the it network. And what i think. A lot of people may not realize is a lot of the iot gadgets that we talk about. They're actually stuck for maintenance monitoring on this equipment but they're not actually on the operational network. They're still kind of to the. It network physically monitoring operations but not on that actual network absolutely so. Do you think we'll ever have those two things meet. Oh yeah and they are already air. Gap is pretty much missed these days. Like you talk to hear about people. Talking about this wonderfully segmented. Eric apt industrial networks. And i see very very few every year. I i work exclusively in industrial networks and i see very very few very second networks every year usually the better secure networks. Have some kind of dmz between it and not and that has firewall holes in it to to allow telemetry to go through remote maintenance if ministration things like that so there some kinds of Traverse solitude it ot networks particularly for things like it is not sensors things like that to share data with the industrial operators in their networks. So there is a lot of cross between even well segmented and operational networks it real segmentation. Air gap is pretty rare. Do you wanna talk about the bottle and explain that to people. I'm really torn on skipping that or going into that. That's really important there construct. Yeah i wish that. I wish that i had the briefest understanding of the purdue model. It's an academic model and any academic model is obviously flawed. Like oh assign model. Whatever else we use an it. But the purdue model is a model for how industrial networks early out and jake basically starts at the bottom with your very very simple electronic devices it moves up to simple computers. Recognize computers like plc's than up to more familiar computers that are used inside the end industrial environment. Like the operator workstations skater etc beecham ice and then up past that towards the top of the purdue model..

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"Is leslie. Carl hart who is the principal. Industrial incident responder at dragos. Hello leslie how are you today. I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. How are you i am well and thank you for coming on the show. It feels like it's probably been a busy. How i don't know last six months. Few years hasn't stopped. I tell you it. Just it just doesn't stop these days. Which is a a bedding good from a perspective of interesting cases and then horrible things happening to people indeed. We're glad you're on work. Glad you're on the job so leslie is a an incident responder which means she is in the security world helping prevent and respond to attacks of all kinds. And so leslie if you want to just get started. Do you mind telling us how you got into this business because you you actually focused more on the operation side as opposed to the it site. Correct sir yeah. I do specialize on kind of nonstandard computer system so we're on the ics sight of things and the operational and is not side of things. And i've been interested in i. I got interested in digital forensics. When i was very very young. I've been working in. It for quite a long time. Since i was a teenager. But i've always wanted to do the investigative stuff. I've always had a blast. You know learning about how to take computers apart and figure out what they did in what people use them for. And i had to work for that there because it wasn't a a common field for a very long time. So i worked my way through a lot of odd jobs including spending time in the air force and working on avionics in my Odd assortment of jobs and adventures. I had a lot of exposure to really nonstandard non-typical computers that are all kinds of industrial automation scenarios. And so i got very familiar with working with those kinds of rugged iced and low level devices instead of just with. Pc's all the time so is a natural fit an important mission to because these industrial computers are everywhere. They surrounded us every day in our daily lives in even aware of them. It is true. And i would love to help. Educate people about how the industrial world thinks about security because it feels like on one hand. All of the hats are coming out now. And everyone's like. Oh my gosh everything's connected and other industrial stuff is vulnerable. But it's not like industrial engineers hem thought about security before so what has changed. It isn't so a few different things have changed. The first of all they are aware of cybersecurity. The vendors are the engineers are Operators are aware the life of computers in industrial environments is very different than it is an it so first of all the number one priority is keeping the power on keeping water. Coming out of place and keeping oil going through pipelines. And things like that. That's the number one priority and doing that safely without anybody getting hurt so cyber security always come second. You know Availability things like that. That's the priority of just getting the data through so that things operate the right time cycles. That's that's number one so we don't necessarily have the same priorities as at environments and also there's this this great cost savings to using commercial it equipment instead of specialized purpose built industrial equipment. Like we used to. It's much cheaper to start using commercial network switches. Ethernet things like that to send protocols and let devices communicate to one another instead of reinventing the wheel so there's been a big push over the last quarter century to migrate industrial devices to more familiar network technologies even if the devices are still different than rugged ice and things like that so we're adding in more. It elements and then of course since networks are more available in. The internet is ubiquitous. There is a great desire to internetwork things for to search sharing telemetry sharon control across wide regions and providing remote access for operators to maintain and repair things without having to drive across. You know great spaces. So there's great advantages to networking these systems in these devices. So a lot of what's happening is happening for efficiency sake can cost savings sake and ability to expand in better operate industrial networks. But at the same time we're conducting more things networks and therefore increasing increasing attack surface connecting devices that weren't necessarily intended to ever networked to it networks potentially even beyond that to the internet itself. And i think there's a good distinction to be made here between this idea of the traditional. It network that connects our computers and emails and the operational network that is inside a plant which may be connected to things inside a plant but may never be connected to the it network. And what i think. A lot of people may not realize is a lot of the iot gadgets that we talk about. They're actually stuck for maintenance monitoring on this equipment but they're not actually on the operational network. They're still kind of to the. It network physically monitoring operations but not on that actual network absolutely so. Do you think we'll ever have those two things meet. Oh yeah and they are already air. Gap is pretty much missed these days. Like you talk to hear about people. Talking about this wonderfully segmented. Eric apt industrial networks. I see very very few every year. I i work exclusively in industrial networks. And i see very very few very second networks every year usually the better secure networks. Have some kind of dmz between it and ot and that has firewall holes in it to to allow telemetry to go through remote maintenance if ministration things like that so there some kinds of Traverse between it ot networks particularly for things like it is not sensors things like that to share data with the industrial operators in their networks. So there is a lot of cross between even well segmented. It and operational networks it real segmentation. Air gap is pretty rare. Do you wanna talk about the bottle and explain that to people. I'm really torn on skipping that or going into that. That's really important there construct. Yeah i wish that. I wish that i had the briefest understanding of the purdue model. It's an academic model and any academic model is obviously flawed. Like oh assign model. Whatever else we use an it. But the purdue model is a model for how industrial networks early out and jake basically starts at the bottom with your very very simple electronic devices it moves up to simple computers. Recognize computers like plc's than up to more familiar computers that are used inside the end industrial environment. Like the operator workstations skater etc beecham ice and then a pass that towards the top of the purdue model..

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"On the home pie. Benny bray and google has said they're going to support matter on several of their products including some of their displays which will act as some sort of bridge device. But like if you're connected block for example in your only as it'd be locked it's possible that would get an update but it's unlikely simply because that update would have to go through a bridge of some sort. You don't think it could happen through the app for the lock or for the device itself if the lock is wifi enabled i think. So if it's just zippy enabled and it connects to my. It's not connecting directly to my phone. It's connected to a hub right so it like right next to my amazon echo. That has should be then to update it. I have to go through amazon to get to lock. And i'm not sure i'm going to do that. Like right as manufacturer. Sure the tricky part here is that we haven't really heard concrete transition details from any manufacturer to be quite honest or any ecosystem. It's just we're going to support it and that's not true we've heard it from like philips hue philips hue said they're going to support it over there bridge ally bozo still stands api. Did that was the idea that i had. That's why i said it could be updated on the bridge side s yet but philips hue controls that bridge right so making erect wreck can know that going in. Yes as opposed to if you use Thread devices for example in the euros on amazon's ecosystem it's going to work with amazon devices. Only is what i've gotten from them. So far yeah. I'm surprised that amazon. Like all the big vendors have come out and said what their plans are. Amazon is staying quiet not a peep peeps. That concerns me. A thing concerns me. They seem more focused right now on on building on sidewalk like and in fact that new level talking about very early in the show does support sidewalk yes and can actually talked about on the show a couple of weeks ago about why. He's really excited about that. So right and that's a good thing but they they seem to be focused on that right now as opposed to working with like everybody else. Yeah matter does feels like it almost doesn't matter and so sorry bad steaks at amazon s. Okay so the answer. It's not a great answer for you is it's going to depend and wait-and-see and your individual manufacturers were making the decision is they're going to retroactively support this. I'm gonna just say to you right now. You're older devices. Probably gonna give it your z. Wave devices year. If you get support it's gonna be through your hub. And i don't actually think you're gonna get it did we. That's a little easier. You're gonna get like comcast is actually said. They're smart home stuff. They're gonna do it. Software update in convert their controllers and devices to support matter. Much like the said. So that's a known known. Sorry dating we'll come back to this and mike happy just like with the locks. It's is still up air because again we're in limbo now to see what the manufacturers do. Yes all right. So that concludes. This week's internet of things podcast hotline. If you want to ask a question that we can daily answer for you you can reach us at five one two six two three seven four two four and that concludes this segment of the show. Please stay tune for our guest. Let's our heart. Who is an incident responder. at dragos. She is talking to us about industrial iot security. It's a great interview and before we get to that. We have a word from our sponsor this week.

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"The wellness focused or but then with covid. We saw an uptake in those devices because it had been hovering around thirty percent thirty percent so this is actually really good. He was loaded equipment. Not everybody wants to carry us much. Let's not that. I had just released a new product with sewn house. Yeah we heard this was potentially coming and it is true that the new i. Kia picture frame speaker has been announced. This week it will be available on july fifteenth. One hundred ninety nine for each one and i say each one because you can have two for stereo and so on and so forth you can add as many as you'd like they do work with sono's just like the symphonic line that they have. I believe the lamp shades and the bookshelf speaker. So these are a little more expensive than those at one ninety nine. Interestingly these yes they are picture frame and it comes with the piece of art innocence like and you and you take the art off. It's not a standard piece of art. It's custom made to fit this. So if you don't like this art kia will have to more options that they will sawyer for twenty dollars each but the default art is like a black looks like black cameras is not canvas and some white designs on it. So it's not a traditional picture friend that you can put your picture in Perhaps they will have some kind of add on. That's a transparent picture frame that you can put your own for customization but no you can't yet do that or a digital picture frame which would be suitable for all those entities you're buying. Oh yeah i want the. I want the code source code for the original web from temporarily. He's putting that out of an nfc tree maybe christmas. Yeah that's gonna pretend millions. We'll see kevin okay We got a new module out there for folks trying to build on lt cat m one in nba ot modules are important because they make life easy for people who are building hardware including as much as necessary. So in this case the modules connectivity. Plus smarts you get an arm cortex a seven processor. That's very powerful You get bluetooth you get. Gnss for positioning yet. Serial interface for gives a flash memory a two hundred fifty six meg of ram and a t. pm which is a. it's like a secure enclave. So that's that's good security built into this whole module is going to be available from t t six. It is the s to connect creo. So in system on module and. yeah. I don't know how much it's going to be. No one ever tells you that until you call them. But it's going to launch in the summer this summer and you're building for cellular connectivity. You're going to want to be looking for something that has this sort of if not nba. very low power in In lt cat m is higher bandwidth so you could do some video on that. But you're going to want to look for that because they've sunset three setting three g networks. You're gonna have to have either four g if it in five g right now. It's pretty battery power intention. Synthesis related gun right. I liked that. They added to options from a sim perspective. Because if you're building these devices you gotta worry about a sim card. So there is a sim card tray but it also has a soldered on e. sim so you don't need to provision with a traditional physical sim. If you don't want you have a choice. There are all right and in industrial news. Accenture has acquired a company called s. e. This is a is an industrial iot slash auto. It's going to become part of accenture 's industry x division and accenture is a lot of companies about more than twenty companies. Two thousand seventeen to build out this area and it is going in the Acquisitions one of the largest for this business. This is basically digital transformation. Which if we're being honest is basically saying hey all the machines of you're an industrial company. Maybe it's shopping shells. If your retail company all of this needs to have sensors on it delivered data that we can start delivering insights getting insights from the make sense but i think you just put that one in the show because you like to say i'm not it is nice. I am not allowed chairman. Not swedish yes. They are multi that. I don't know the swedes. Do use them okay. Anyway the terms of this deal were not disclosed but not has four thousand employees and it has revenue of three hundred and forty million euros which is about four hundred twelve million dollars so it is not insignificant. Big deal for them. And if you're interested in industrial iot or you just want to understand what's happening with ransomware attacks stay tuned for our guest in a little bit..

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"iot" Discussed on The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
"If my fitbit would work as my own locker. That'd be great but it doesn't i would. I would do something like this. But we're getting there. I feel like will be there wednesday. So this is why. I'm holding off on a new smart lock but kevin. Why else should people hold off. Yes stacy's holding off and you should too. I say that we're the caveat if you want or you have a current smart lock that works for you. It's got the features you want. Go ahead and buy it. But i'm saying most people probably should not either upgrade or by their for smart lock right. Now there's a couple reasons. The biggest one is that the standards are changing. And that is that goes back to the the essay and thread and matter all of that adoption may in many cases require new hardware in levels case. I should give a shout out to level because as the said on the interview with one or two weeks ago whenever you spoke with them they've chosen a radio. Chipset that has bluetooth can be can work with zeke. Be very easily could possibly work with thread. While i know there's nfc in the the level touch lock so they're well prepared to adjust for the changing standards to adopt those without having to change the hardware but everybody else i think without exception i may be wrong on. That isn't so if you buy something. Now you're likely going to see those manufacturers come out with matter supported locks threads supported locks and so on or nfc or maybe ultra wide band and you may not care right now but you may in the future in which case the investment. You're spending now. You're not gonna get back because you're gonna like oh. I wish i had waited. And i don't wanna see people do that. Yes we are anti-bat so what would you say like kind of early on. Or maybe the middle of twenty two twenty two. No don't wait that twenty twenty. Don't wait that long. yeah. I think the earliest you can even consider some of these locks that will support. The currently new just introduced standards. I would wait at least until twenty. Twenty two i would hope that by early. Twenty twenty two. Cas time in january. We actually have concrete either announcements maybe not products but hey here's a product that will work with matter thread etc. Nfc work with this watch. Was apple work with google work with amazon. That's my hope. I wouldn't do anything before. Cas and even then you may not be able by anything but you should know more and again. i don't want to just like poop. Who on the whole smart. Lock industry right. this second. Because i had an email chat with. Leo desk you had put me up with stacey. And he's got a lot of experience in this particular segment of the industry and he said yeah. Overall one hundred percent agree now is not a good time to buy one but realistically it depends on the use case of what you care about so wait and see make sense but if you want something with the keypad right now and that's good enough for you. Go for it. He he actually did. He didn't wait. He bought a baldwin lock with the keypad and he uses easy. Wave to ring. So if you're okay with that if that's what you want again go for saying everybody should wait. I'm saying you may want to think about your use cases what the new features and standards will bring if you don't care about them glenn by something but if you're gonna regret those purchase because you're going to feel like you missed out on something when the new ones come out i would wait there. You go all right. let's do a segment called. Are you normal kevin how many connected devices are no. I am not normal. How many connected devices in your home. Ironically i just counted that because somebody was asking me that question twitter in dm. And i think i had thirty two. It was just the other day is like three hundred thirty two okay and i have about sixty five. Your house is also twice as bec- yet that's true. So the average household according to deloitte now has twenty five connected devices that is more than double the eleven devices the average household had in twenty nineteen so in that includes computers tablets. Entertainment that so. Yeah i'm probably closer to the fifty. Then that is everything okay. Yeah oh yeah. No i'm i'm i'm a okay there you go. There's four laptops in a two desktops on my desk in front of me right now but yeah. You probably have a printer somewhere. Unfortunately we do on on a fan of printing but yes. None of us are but you know. Sometimes it's got to be done there we go. We've got more connected devices if you go over to. So that's a deloitte report that came out last week park associates. Which does i won't take exclusively smart home because they do security and media and entertainment stuff too but their research says that consumers now have an average of thirteen connected devices in the home up from nine point two in two thousand sixteen but they broke it down a little bit so in their average computer smartphone. Smart tv's in smart speakers were included in there and that was part of their connected computing devices. And then they had homes having one point two connected health and wellness devices and then an average of twenty six smart home devices. Interesting one key point out of the deloitte report which is interesting to me. More than half fifty percent of us households is all us. Data have a smart water fitness tracker. I don't really care my households at it but it does say that thirty nine percent once more than one third owned one personally and that seems low to me with all the years of fitbit's and all the garment watches out there and the smartwatches because that's smartwatch or fitness tracker. I think that's normal. I mean i it had been. That's a segment of the market. That took off among a certain.

7 Layers
"iot" Discussed on 7 Layers
"I i think we're gonna actually have less of that in the future than we do today. Although the enterprise may prove me wrong. I hope that's not true of course Let's good to know kind of win against What i was thinking then. I love being proved wrong In all seriousness. Do you think. Do you think that enterprise that in the data center environments going to get more challenging the quantity of data My i really think that as data centers become more distributed over time I think primarily to support iot if we think about like putting a edged a center near Like a factory or place where latency is an issue or even security is an issue then that might cause more complex networks or definitely a shift in how we see data centers. Yeah that's interesting. Because i hadn't thought of that. That angle thing is one. Well thank you Is there anything else. You'd like to add that people may not talk about as much with iot and in particular enterprise use of iot. Oh well. I think we've talked a lot about the topics today. I think i would come back to that issue that you teed up earlier today in one of the first questions. You asked me the idea. That enterprise iot should be enterprise right. It should before. Enterprise should be enterprise grade and i. I think it's really important that we have ways to test these iot solutions and to end right to make sure that the enterprise can raise them to to what we might call enterprise grade or carrier grade at in that case and i think that's really super important that we need to work with with enterprises their engineering teams there. Deb ops teams right to identify incorrect. The bottlenecks or in a lot of cases and we find a lot of leaks in iot end to end solutions. And it's really important to identify those things we we need to be able to prepare For enterprise security issues like dido's attacks and we do have the tools to test and simulate all of these things for end to end iot solutions today. i just think the enterprises themselves need to recognize that enterprise. Iot means enterprise. Great iot and i think that's just a it's an important issue that that i bring up all the time and certainly you know sort of a leader mac nation. We bring that up all the time with with our customers Because they they don't know they don't know if they're building a solution that.

Daily Tech News Show
AMD Confirms It's Powering the Gaming Rig Inside Tesla's Model S and Model X
"Your next tesla infotainment system if you get a model lesser a model x. Might use an amd reisen processor and amd are dna to gpu. They didn't say which models but the model s. plaid with the new system starts deliveries june tenth. Not trying to make you buy a new car. But this this. This is important because i have noticed Some severe video lag when playing missile command and asteroids. In my tesla. So i i'm. I'm really do that a lot do you.

Daily Tech News Show
Acer Says It 'Can Only Fill 50% of the Worldwide Demand'
"Intel announced two new eleventh gen use series processors at compu- tech's the core. I seven one. One nine five g seven and the i five one five five g seven both have four cores and threads plus z graphics with ninety six execution units for the i seven and eighty execution units for the i five the i seven is the first use series chip able to hit five gigahertz in a single court. Turbo boost with the base clock of two point nine gigahertz. Today is june. First the editorial board of daily tech news show regrets the air acer. Co-ceo tiffany wang said. The company can only fulfil fifty percent of demand on average due to the shortage. Saying the situation won't change until up to q two of two thousand twenty two at compacts intel ceo pat gelsinger said. The chip shortage will quote. Take a couple of years for the ecosystem to address shortages. A foundry capacity substrates and components and gardner issued a report. Saying it believes. This is the most serious point. In the shortage and estimates it will continue until q. Two twenty twenty two alienware announced that the x fifteen gaming laptop will start at two thousand dollars and the seventeen gaming laptop starting at two thousand one hundred dollars. The x fifteen fifteen point nine millimeter thick in some configurations offering up c. Two hundred forty hertz refresh rate screen while the seventeen offers up to eight three hundred sixty hertz refresh rate both offer offer eleven th gen intel core processors and support up to an rtx thirty eighty graphics card uber announced thirty. Three thousand drivers joined it's us platform during the week of may seventeenth increasing active driver hours. Four point four percent over the previous week and marking a new record for drivers since the start of two thousand twenty one who did not say how that number compared to pre pandemic times. My guess is because it didn't compare it very well. Crypto currency exchange quaint base announced that its users can use money from their new coin base cards through apple. Pay and google payne gwen. Baseball automatically convert all crypto to. Us dollars when adding to a customer's queen base card that can then be used for purchases and then received crypto rewards for shopping.

Daily Tech News Show
New Intel Processor Brings 5GHz Speeds to Ultra Thin Laptops
"Intel announced two new eleventh gen series processors at compu- tech's the core. I seven one. One nine five g seven and the i five one five five g seven both have four cores and threads plus z graphics with ninety six execution units for the i seven and eighty execution units for the i five the i seven is the first use series chip able to hit five gigahertz in a single court. Turbo boost with the base clock of two point nine gigahertz.

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
Roku Seeks Expansion Into Home Automation
"Let's kick it off with roku this is from our friend and former colleague gyanco rutgers. He scooped everyone noting that roku has a job listing and is looking to build out. Its smart home technologies yeah. I'm actually a little surprised. It's taken them this long. They've done really well in like the home entertainment media space for quite a long time. I have a roku actually a roku device or you know. I have a roku device. I have every time we assess our media streaming device because we haven't had cable since two thousand and eight we choose roku and it's because they're not well up until about this year they weren't in the content business so everybody worked with roku and that was very nice in awesome right. We have a tv. With roku built. Tim so i agree with you on the content. It's it's just been very nice. It's a good user interface in general and we get a lot of value from it. So they've done. They've done really well in the space. Lots of partnerships as i said integrated in. Tv's but that's as far as the gone and now it looks like they wanna get into the smart home device business. Yes so yaeko tells us that roku has it demeer skripic who joined the company from amazon. He had worked with teepee links casa smart home unit and at arlo and he's basically trying to build a smart home. Business that includes roku products and integrating roku with other devices in features and by the way all roku is still hiring for smart home folks people to do partnerships. So i know someone out there. Listening to this show is like holy cow. You find that. Job listing

Cyber Security Headlines
Codecov Breach Impacted ‘Hundreds’ of Customer Networks
"Hundreds of networks reportedly hacked in kodakov supply chain attack following on with the story. We have been covering this week. New reporting from reuters shows that hundreds of customer networks have been breached in kodakov incident expanding. The scope of this breach beyond its own systems. Kodakov is an online software testing platform. That can be integrated with get hub projects to generate code coverage reports statistics in this attack threat actors gained co two cubs credentials from their flawed docker image that was then used to alter kotenkov bash. Uploaded script used by its customers. Kotenkov has over twenty nine thousand customers including prominent names like go. Daddy atlassian the washington post and proctor and gamble making this a noteworthy supply chain incidents and an ongoing story. Remote code execution vulnerabilities uncovered in smart air. Fryer researchers from cisco talos have disclosed to remote code execution vulnerabilities in the koussari. Five point eight quart. Air fryer a wifi connected kitchen product that leverages the internet to give users remote control over cooking temperature times and settings according to tell us researchers cassara did not respond appropriately within the typical ninety day vulnerability disclosure period which is why it has now been made public. Though consumers may consider this situation to be innocuous it is an example of an iot endpoint of unr- ability that can leverage a home connection to cause damage there or anywhere else

The Voicebot Podcast
Bahubali Shete CEO of TinyChef on His Journey to 1M Voice App Users
"Remember when you and i i spoke about what you were doing that. You're working on the the knobs and the scale different things in order to automate all the mechanical parts of cooking. And then you're going to add. Recipes is just that was like sort of a secondary element in some ways and you totally flipped. It eliminated the first part. So i guess that makes more sense because you started out in the iot that's equipment and then you wound up determining that wasn't the best way to go. So what data points did you get. And and how did you collect those data points. The convince you to make the switch in your focus so Don't change the cooking equipment very often in the sense that smart kitchen appliances which are coming definitely You need smart kitchen appliance. You need robotics but consumers do not have enough space in the kitchen to add more wrote gadgets in the kitchen they already have enough and they don't chain them in unless there are no small blender on those kind of products so the basic cooking up a novel on wednesday by his dad with them for any answer fifteen years and it's it's not easy to change and you cannot retrofit on these devices because they're so attached to things that the look and feel and us except those products are very important so i felt that numis been not willing to know either it off changes equipments and hence the market was becoming very niche game smart kitchen appliances and i felt that i was right in saying that that it is going to be yields before the Plans has become a commodity. And become you know get used to them and start using them in the kitchen and in the meantime you know me as a startup definitely wanted to find where the pinpoint sought and assault them. And that's really felt that the pain points really in the journey and that's where we shifted our focus to this. How long did it take you to come to that conclusion to be already reality mad about you. Know five thousand knobs and be able to ship it to them. We made a road running campaign and all that and then we had noted on everything. Get so you had a indigo kickstarter. Yeah in new right. So you fully funded that you actually produce the product you could have shipped them the product but at that point you decided it's it'll be better for us to refund the money than to have to deploy this product in support it because you didn't really believe in that market segment anymore. I say so. That must have been a very painful decision to make. It's it's both painful as well as emotional for me. Because i come from robotics in address space and i'm so attached to hardware. I believe i can saw putting hardware than getting away from data and then being myself as a businessman rather than being technologist was said that a decision so tell me how that decision played out. was that just. You looked at the data. You made the decision or did you have a mentor. advisors other people in the company that you consulted with. How did that play out. This is really important. I know a lot of people have had go through these pivots and this is sort of a soft pivot but a significant one. Be great to share your experience on that. Yeah definitely for explain a very major role in that. So it is in vlad. I met so many People i met from meek it companies see yours to Big marketing gle ascent from campbell. Nestle and unilever walmart so many people and then i had the vehicle does the idea in understand the views on it and definitely doesn't have any clear advice coming from all of them which was also deflecting in my initial trials Consumers that it was difficult for them to add up or product in that existing kitchen and yeah a lot of an Next so it was. You talked to a lot of people they all gave you. Basically the same advice you were seeing the problems on the customer side so it just became obvious even though there was a painful decision for you emotionally given your background. Yeah well it's hard to. It's hard to kill the baby right. I mean i think that's what we would say is a baby for adoption or whatever it is you're doing and focus So then the the feature that you thought was going to be complementary to your main product became the product so once you decided that this how did you change. How did you change your strategy. What did that mean was going. You're going to be doing differently. Reduced doing more of the stuff that you already doing the recipe side or did you have to basically start over I had to start or in some sense It was in the same direction. Same solution same in a find though solid from the consumer angle but the approach is completely different. I i i i may have said this in one of the podcast but you know one of the consumer is such just nine initially conducted a focus group discussion. One lady told me a benign asked her a question that what is that your family as as it acknowledgee vici-. You had that in the kitchen to help you in the kitchen. And she said google maps to said my husband who is seventy plus. Now who couldn't drive denise back even in our own city now he's able to drive in any part of the world anyplace from any to any point with all the confidence just because he has maps. It doesn't get up. And i wish that technology was available in the kitchen with which i can walk. Can anybody can walk into the kitchen. Cook any dish they will and that goes in iowa for me. So that's fascinating so that's a really interesting insight so you you spoke with this one customer and you realize what they needed was google maps for cooking. And it's really interesting because we really think about recipes is being more mechanics of it. So how do i know what to do. When and what sequence. But it's really as much as anything a confidence builder if you could build them something like a cooking concierge or adviser that helps them through the entire process. So there's both a functional and emotional aspect to it grew and when i looked at it I also realized that there is so much of resources so many this is available in thumbs up man you can find it as a bs in a local all lack but still not satisfied for the simple reason that didn't know what to trust because it's one thing about searching for some election bleeding some reviews but other thing about cooking that dish yourself for your family it could end up being a messy meal basil. They didn't know whom trusted partner in himself. At spiezio sweaty critical of them and an back. I felt that you know be need not only a good content but a good experience in order to make be committee For consumers in the kitchen so to become the will the good expedience than realize that we need any is solution which understands colletti techniques colletti science. Which can then have a very fruitful conversation with the consumers and make that choice. I expediency really a natural expedience intense. I started my journey on the i or colletti

The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast
Greg Elfrink - How To Create And Sell Your Own Media Empire
"So when you're when you're seeing someone 'biocyte. I'm kind of curious because he's probably pointed to the seller. Sometimes it's a more of an advance or sorry. The buyer felt like an fbi site because they see the opportunity. Someone did all the hard work of creating the website finding the products. Maybe figuring out what's working what's selling what's not like. What are some things that you're seeing sellers do with a website that on empire flippers. Like are there certain things that they're looking for. Is it like that. where they're like. Oh they did all the work for me. I'm gonna pay for that because they can saved me years of work in heartache to figure all this out like can you know prep yourself for that in a way as a seller. Yeah you're asking. What can i do to help. A buyer seed at their web site. Is that shortcut. Yeah that in the motivations of a buyer yes so they can kind of sync up in the right spot and you know get the valuation yet. This is a very good question. Because i i always Both buyers and sellers so if you ask a seller like why are you selling your business like almost one hundred percent. The fans like i want money vic big vol but that's usually not the real answer right there. That's the superficial answer. Then you dig deeper. They're like oh. I want to do other projects and like okay. Let's dig deeper. You peeling back the onion a bit. eventually filed like. Well i want to focus on other projects. Take less than my time. Because i'm moving to this new house and selling this Business allows me to make this down baby in the house for my new family. And now you're getting to the emotional reason right. So whenever a talk to buyers and sellers say dig deep find out who the buyer seller is copywriting. One we all do like everyone listening to this podcast of the market price familiar with copywriting right but for some reason when you go to buy or sell busy like take the copywriting Just like throw it in the trash like. I don't need that anymore. Businesses success but like the buyer seller. Is your customer right like that is your customer. You need to think about their own motivation. So when it comes through selling thinking about a buyer we recommend Or at least i recommend the seller jagger our buyer persona content. So there's about six of them and they all very different motivations for example a newbie norm. If you've you know you're seller dealing with someone who is a newbie norm. Someone's brand new to the space like that doesn't necessarily mean they don't have business document or money they're just new to online business acquisition. They're probably going not have as much confidence. And so you're going to have to hold their hand a little bit more and that's okay For the seller. Payoff like yes. You might have to hold their hand a little bit more but when you give them a quality business you might have. Effectively changed their entire trajectory of their life in a positive way. Because like maybe knows just starting out and that's always going to be the biggest pool buyers talking to because there's always more people coming in right versus say like a investor yvonne who that would be more of your brand aggregate or someone who's raised millions of dollars to acquire businesses. Obviously their motivations going to be a lot different. And if you're a seller like say you're a amazon. Fda entrepreneurs does example works really well with And you have a one product business. So one hundred percent revenue comes from a single ecommerce product on amazon. Most buyers don't like that look at that and they're like darris seems soup. Exactly right like whoa. Because it's a two hundred thousand dollars of single skew like But an investor ivan. Not risky at all to them. They don't care. They'll buy one product businesses all day long because they raise millions of dollars. A your five hundred thousand dollar eight hundred thousand dollar. Even three million dollar one product business one hundred k. to them as long as it meets their other strict criteria cousin to them is not as risky. Because of all acquisitions are doing right. So this is these are important things to know as a seller going into who am i dealing with For things you can do before you ever sell is ask yourself like would i buy this business like just be honest with yourself would i like. Does this seem like a good deal. Why why does it seem like good deal. You start interrogating yourself. And if you're really honest with yourself There will probably be some answers. The actually seems like not a good deal away. Now i know. How do i fix it. Like how do i make this a good deal for myself right so you always like sellers are obsessed with evaluation for obvious reasons. There's a second. Part of selling a business called attractiveness so some sellers they'll be like Like say you're running this huge media site this You know michigan. Thirty thousand dollars a month affiliates. I and you have this bad ass team writers. Va's as all this all these systems and processes set up in the first thing the so as things like andrei increase my valuation by firing. My old team get rid of that expense. That's valuation boost right. But then the buyer cousin sees all the work that has to be done to maintain this business. He sees you working seventy hours a week. He's just going to discount. You're like hey. I'm going to eat iot. I'm going to hire a team. So i need this for a lower price because the net profit is going to be lower right so you almost get like no benefit for doing that. I always tell sellers like yes valuations imporant that think about. How can i make this business attractive as well. Now right now would you. Would you recommend people go and start a site from scratchers now. A good time to go. Try to find like a site that needs a little bit of love by the site. Flip it and make your multiple. Like what sort of path are you kind of recommending people. Go down if they want to get into this world. Yes so if you're just starting out. I probably wouldn't recommend buying I think it's good to get your feet wet with building. That is a long game. So you don't you don't need to build something until it's profitable. You should be building something to where you're comfortable with the system. So that's the important thing i always like. If you wanna go fast always recommend buying something and if you have some skills. I think it's really good to buy something. That doesn't look great on the outside or even on the inside right like you want to buy other people's problems it's very similar to real estate investing right like if you if i buy a house. That only has like cosmetic issues and smells terrible. No one wants to go in it right. I basically get the smell of discount by the south thirty thousand dollars. I painted to cover smell or whatever and now it's worse as sixty eighty thousand dollars. I just built all this equity for very little right so you. When you're buying it online business you want to look at it in the same way especially once you have skills now if your brand new buying online business. I probably wouldn't recommend buying too many problems because he probably don't have solve them if you're brand new to buy dot go like get this amazing deal because there's a site with us google penalty that's been banned from all its affiliate programs. Like you know you don't want to hunt for like the deal. You're almost always going to be better off buying a high quality business for fair value. Like that's always going to be better at least until you get some skills then you can look at doing this like discount. I call it by business. A discount right. You're looking for these problem of businesses problems like But that's what i recommend. So you wanna go fast. Buying is one hundred percent way faster than building because you already have all the data and you can do all this. Low hanging fruit stuff like cro on page optimization new content taking advantage of the high domain rating on the website. Right all of. You can't do your first starting out site ray like if you put The split testing software. Vw show up on your your ten page affiliates. I was one visitor. Burma like you're not going to change. You know you don't have a lot to work with yet. so

The Internet of Things Podcast - Stacey On IoT
Amazon planning a wall mounted Echo
"Moving into the smart home amazon plans a wall mounted echo. According to bloomberg in i okay. Y'all know that. I have been adding things to my house to make it smarter like the infrastructure. So i i actually just added a fin. We'll talk about that in a week or two when i when i start seeing results but added a fin water monitoring device. I added a device from a company called ting that tracks. Basically you plug it in. It looks for electrical fires. I have added an quanta. Water heater controller in product. And so what am i saying. I'm saying these are doing for the sexy devices there. Yeah the unsexy but was interesting here. What i'm discovering is my first night in the finn was like we have detected a very weird thing happening in your house and they sent me a notification but my phone was on. Do not disturb. Sign my house wasn't actually flooding. But i was like you know what i need. I need like a panel. i know right. Maybe like the equivalent of a flashing light. That's like hey these parameters are happening in maybe shakeup deal with it because if it were really a flood. I'd want to know and i don't have the fancy finn that shuts off my water for me so actually thought this was kind of neat because it would be nice to have like a command center that you could add a glance. Look and be like okay. Everything's functioning normally. Yeah i mean we rely on our smart displays quite heavily in our house. Even though i have my phone with me all the time. Not everybody does. And it's really handy to just see something pop up that you know you need to know this right now without looking for your phone or missing a notification. This is actually one of the big downsides of my transition homekit. there's no smart display unless you have an apple. Tv and you're watching tv so bloomberg is saying that amazon's working on this. It's ten or thirteen inch diagonally measured Obviously can control smart devices. It'll have the typical amazon services from music videos. Video chatting with a camera built in should be pretty skinny thin unlike some of the smart displays. Because this can be wall mounted and bloomberg says it's could retail for between two hundred two fifty. Maybe by the end of this year. Anything can happen because this is just them. Hearing from sources we amazon has new official comment on this. But i think these ecosystems are overdue for something like that a lot of people used ipads they mount ipads to their wall and use those. Yeah so you wouldn't have to do that and you could use your ipad ipad actually so

Epicenter
DAOs Back In The Spotlight with Professor Aaron Wright
"You've been in the ecosystem a very long time so you you were here. When the dow the entire the dow thing went down way interested in dallas. Before that do that kind of kick it off for you. Yeah i mean. I actually was an avid reader of bitcoin magazine. Way back in the day. And i remember Dan larimer writing about decentralized autonomous corporations which was kind of the precursor to douse. I thought that that was a fascinating concept. The thought being that you can use at that time that bitcoin blockchain and an interesting implementation called colored coins to begin to represent the structure of a corporation as using blockchain to kind of record interests in the entity using those interests to to think about how to transfer assets had build controls into a corporation using smart contracts. I thought it was absolutely fascinating and kind of all clicked together as not surprising when when metallic and others began to veto venture towards thirty. Am and dow's became an important part of that story. Right does appear in the white paper. There was lots of conversations around. is that the community. I began to think about. I was equally fascinated and the dow itself was really i expression of that interest right So a theorem Was just recently launched for the most part even though it took some time to get the on tests nats and a whole bunch of other technical hurdles. But you know i really thought it was great that christoph and and team began to really push. Here they wanted to build a was in the white paper. They wanted to explore what these new digital organizations can look like and the dow is really the first grade experiment in that area. I i remember even before the dow launched seeings or demos and other things by the sparkle team dealing with you know a theam slash iot related devices which i thought were incredibly cool and i think to everybody's surprise though. The dow just was much more successful. Than i than. I think anybody would have imagined right. It was supposed to be kind of a a small experiment. It became a massive experiment and then he had a kind of a spectacular. Finish at which i think was Was great in terms of automating people's minds about the possibilities of a theorem at but at the same time highlighting a number of the challenges and but technical and then over subsequent months has lawyers and other folks began to to get some regulatory challenges as well so it you know i think it was the first great use case for theory was dow's and i do think people had a bit of ptsd. How after the dow and they were kind of free to play around and divan and start. Start to see what this ecosystem look like. There was obviously developer teams like the arrogant team and the dow stocks team. That were that were pushing forward. But i think people put to to the side as we saw token sales and other other kind of crypto economic systems began to be exported in twenty sixteen seventeen eighteen. But they're back great houser coming back to focus. There's a lot of activity in the dow space that i think as you know folks are beginning to pay attention to and if you are a developer or somebody that's interested in boxing technology. I imagine that it's probably worth your time to start to dig in here and think about what may be coming over the next couple of months and years.