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"hue jackson" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Building who realized we have a team that can't win. We don't have an NFL caliber roster right now. Gary mentioned the bonus system in the four year plan. Just so everybody understands what that is. Connor lay that out for us. I believe basically what this says here is that, for example, on the table for the coach to earn his bonus for Hugh Jackson to earn his bonus in 2016, the browns had to make at least 11 picks in the NFL's draft with 5 of those picks being in the first three rounds. You do that. You get your bonus. If the organization carried over at least 15% of their salary cap, you get your bonus. And so you could look at it from two ways, right? That is either an agreement to say, hey, okay, everybody's benefiting from this. So no one can say they didn't do it. Or at the timing, you have to understand that the NFL is really shifting towards more of a collaborative focus, like all the GMs and coaches were coming in together and hired together and signed through contracts together so you could look at it that way or you could look at it as maybe this is just a really weird and off ball way for a franchise to say, hey, we're all on the same team here. And so we all have the same goals. Sorry, so there are all these allegations that the browns were incentivizing, losing, and among the many documents you guys reviewed were emails between Roger Goodell and Hugh Jackson, right? Yeah, so Hugh has been banging the drum on this for quite a while. According to his motion, he had first brought this up at the league in 2016, this approach to the browns were taking, which he did not feel was in line with the competitive integrity of the NFL. He went through the arbitration process and afterwards he had a series of emails and letters that he sent to Rodrigo that, as we say, they're kind of rife with all caps and bold fonts. And he is very upset. And even after he had lost his arbitration, which would have awarded him some sort of monetary reward, he wanted an investigation into the browns for allegedly tanking during these two seasons. And I think part of it for him became kind of a quest to, let's say, restore his reputation as a football coach after two and a half nightmare seasons in which he leaves with a three 36 in one record and he apparently feels that the organization is just as much as at fault for that as he is. So you mentioned the organization being at fault there. Sashi Brown was in charge of the browns back then. He's now the team president for the ravens Conor, what does he have to say if anything about all this? Yeah, we got a no comment out of Baltimore and yeah, I mean, I think sashi is kind of an interesting figure there from my understanding of how this all worked. He was basically supposed to be the arbiter between football and analytics, right? He was supposed to be the bridge that brought these two together in this experiment that Jimmy haslem was running and ultimately was really the first person to pay for this. He got fired and then I believe had a 20 month hiatus out of sports until he came back with the Washington Wizards and is now obviously the team president of the ravens, but sort of a unique figure in this because even back to 2016, if you remember, there was, I wouldn't say suspicion, but just everybody around the league's antenna was raised up and some good curiosity in a way too. I think people wanted to know what he was doing and Paul Podesta, what they were doing with the browns. They didn't have extensive background work in football and how this was going to work. I think he's sort of one of those interesting figureheads there, but one that had no interest in, I don't think, at least via Raven spokesperson weighing in on this story. I want to play devil's advocate here really quickly. Some people would say, why would the browns need to intentionally tank when they've been unintentionally awful for decades, I mean, haven't they already just been functionally tanking? You could certainly make that argument. The specific argument that Jackson would make was obviously he's brought in there and they're saying, well, we have cap space, but we have draft capital. We're ready to start building a winner here. One thing I do want to mention. And look, it's difficult to get people to sort of be scandalized by tanking, right? Everyone loves when their team is, if not winning the Super Bowl, I think the next best thing for a lot of fans is, well, let's have a really high draft pick. And let's get a new quarterback or whatever it might be. For the players on that team and I spoke to one player who said he has been in touch with a lot of former teammates who feel this kind of ruined their careers being on this team, not only from a reputational standpoint, but when you are out there surrounded by kind of non NFL talent, you look bad on tape. This derails your career to an extent, and there is a group of players that they haven't gone too far forward yet, but they're at least discussing legal action. I think what was so upsetting for a lot of guys who were there at the time and one of the guys who spoke on the record for this story is a coach named Ken Delgado. He is actually currently with Hugh Jackson down and grambling university, but he had been a long time assistant coach in college football. This was kind of his chance to break through in 2016 with his Brown staff. That was his first NFL job. As he says, this is everyone's dream job, getting to the highest level of football here. He did a, you know, on paper, a decent job with their defensive line. He was an assistant defensive line coach on Jackson's staff in Cleveland. He was out after the 2018 season, and he just said straight up like, look, I'm realistic about this. I'm not going to get back into the league. That was my chance. I'm now branded as part of this one in 31 run that the browns had. No one's really going to pick up the phone and want to bring me back in for the guys who were there. They've sort of been branded with this really problematic two year run and it ended a lot of careers. And I think just to add to that, I mean, when we saw with the Miami Dolphins were initially doing under Brian Flores when they first got there, our former colleague Jenny rentis went down to Miami and did a really excellent story on kind of the ethics of this kind of rebuild. And I do think that there are very real as Gary mentioned safety concerns. And it's kind of interesting when you talk to players across the spectrum where certainly there are some players who have been in the NFL and have developed that sort of callous cynicism, I think about what goes on in the league and it's like, yeah, this is just what happens. This is life. But I think there are some other people who are like, hey, you know, if I'm playing next to somebody who doesn't know what they're doing, that's going to get me hurt, you know? I think that's a similar refrain that you hear from, you know, whether it's firefighters or police officers or whatever and it's like, you know, the test has to be hard because anyone who passes it is saving my behind. And so I think that there's an element of that, certainly, and with the NFL, where it's like, yeah, this thing, you have to be competitive because if everyone isn't good, then I get hurt. So there are repercussions in this that go beyond just Hugh Jackson or Jimmy haslam or Paul D Podesta or sashi Brown, not competitive integrity is such sort of a vague thing, but one of the big appeals of the NFL was the fact that at any given Sunday. And that's not just any game, but any season. The last three years, we have had a Super Bowl participant who had a losing record the previous season, giving those fans hope year to year is one of the things that really is appealing about the NFL, we're not even getting into the gambling aspect of this. And if you believe that a team's head coach has been incentivized to lose games, especially toward the end of the season, that has a lot of repercussions as far as the gambling community goes. And obviously, as we all know, we have a lot of legalized gambling in this country now, and nobody draws more bets than the NFL does. The competitive integrity component is interesting to me because now we have the browns and we have allegations against them and tanking and also the dolphins have been accused of tanking. Connor, are we to believe that they're the only two teams who might have done this or do we suspect that other organizations might be exposed as well? I don't think that this is necessarily wholly unique. I think what's unique about the Brown circumstance was that they decided to put it on paper and I think that it also went too far. I think that anybody that's associated with that organization during that time would say it went too far. And I think that other teams have probably done softer versions of this mini resets or whatever the kinder gentler version of this that you want to say is, but nowhere near to, I think, the scale and the aggressiveness with which the browns did theirs. All right, so despite all these documents and all these allegations on Monday, the NFL said that the leagues independent investigation found, quote, no evidence to substantiate the accusations of tanking. This feels like a nothing to see here. The NFL is moving on situation. The browns also issued a statement saying that they were pleased with the findings or the lack of findings, which that's hardly surprising. I'm wondering what the two of you make on where the NFL ultimately landed on this. I wouldn't say I was surprised. Certainly there are elements of what seemed to be a legitimate building process by the browns throughout Hugh Jackson's time there, right? In 2017, they signed Kevin zeitler, who was one of the who was one of the most prominent free agents on the market. And there did at times certainly seem to be some efforts to win games. And they also, we got our hands on a letter from the commissioner to Jimmy haslam that said, hey, one of the things we saw in here was that in this performance table that we had talked about before Hugh Jackson did make edits to it. And so that would seem to make him on board with what was going on here. So again, I think this entire process is depending on how you look at it. Do you think that incentivizing someone to have more draft picks in the first few rounds of the draft is legitimate or do you feel like that's just a way around incentivizing a tank, right? And so it's interesting. I mean, I think the NFL landed where they were comfortable landing. I don't think that they want to open Pandora's box, especially with the dolphins investigation going on, especially with everything happening regarding their gambling relationships and how everything's kind of not on an even footing. I mean, it's all systems go. But you never want to portray this era of well, hey, there might not be things completely above board going on here. So what I would make of it is that I think the NFL, if you had to ask me before the investigation started where they would land, I was guessing probably somewhere around here. Yeah, so despite the NFL trying to sweep all this under the carpet, you guys did some really excellent reporting on the subject. I highly recommend everybody go read their story about this on SI dot com, which we will link to in our show notes. And listen to them on the MM QB podcast, Gary Graham link, Connor or thanks for this. Well, thanks, John. Thanks, John. Sports illustrator weekly is a production of Sports Illustrated and iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. And for more of Sports Illustrated's best stories and podcasts, visit SI dot com. The special bonus episode of sports illustrator weekly was produced by Cooper mckim. Isaac Lee is our sound engineer. Our senior producer is Dan blue. Our executive producers are Scott Brody and me, John Gonzalez. Thanks for listening. Our regularly scheduled episode will appear in your feed tomorrow, Wednesday, may 4th..
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"hue jackson" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Hi, and we'll sell inside the NFL network newsroom with breaking news out of Cleveland. The browns have fired head coach Hugh Jackson this according to NFL network insider Ian rappaport. He was put in a pretty difficult position, his first two years with the talent we had and we felt like he deserved a chance at a third year and unfortunately it didn't work out the way we all hoped it would. Former browns coach Hugh Jackson has added his voice to this conversation. What did he have to say? Basically, they said that something similar happened with the Brown that Hugh was paid to lose gains in 2016 in 2017, those seasons resulted in back to back number one overall picks. Jimmy haslam brown's owner responding to Hugh Jackson's allegations he was paid to lose games, haslem told the Knoxville news sentinel. Hugh Jackson has never accepted any responsibility for our record during that time period. He's been masterful at pointing fingers, but is never accepted any blame. Gary grambling and Connor or welcome to sports illustrator weekly. Good to be here. You guys a lot is going on with the brands. You guys are in the mix of this. You reviewed more than a thousand pages of documents related to Hugh Jackson, accusing the browns of tanking, there's just so much going on here. I want to go back to the beginning. When are we first hear that the browns were suspected of intentionally losing games? So this all started back in February and obviously everyone remembers when Brian Flores came out and made public his lawsuit against the league. And in the aftermath, Hugh Jackson had tweeted some cryptic things, maybe one would say piggybacking off of Brian floors his claim that Stephen Ross allegedly had offered him $100,000 per loss with a dolphins and Hugh had implied that something similar happened with the browns. He clarified a little bit as that weak went on, but when he made that claim, that's when the NFL first opened their investigation. It's also when we first opened our investigation into this and started to gather some information and figure out exactly what was going on and what exactly Hugh was talking about. And then we can get into it later because of a release agreement he signed. He is not really free to talk about this publicly. Connor, how much can you tell us about these documents that you guys gathered in that process? When you go through the process of fighting against the NFL via this secretive arbitration process, these are the documents that you tried to present and try to back up your case. The stuff that you would want people to know in terms of what is your reasoning for believing that you were misled misrepresented by the terms of your deal and what kind of evidence do you have that, hey, this wasn't all on the up and up. Yeah, so you've reviewed all these documents. You've spoken to a bunch of people, including Hugh Jackson's lawyer, Joe Stafford. What evidence is there? What exactly is being alleged? Yeah, and we should make clear. The browns are denying that they intentionally lost or incentivize their coach to intentionally lose. And there's nothing along the lines of he got paid X amount of dollars for losing games. I had one player who was on those teams as we discussed this sort of be like, boy, you really have to read between the lines here. And that's kind of what it is. And that's why it's also going to be interesting to see how the NFL handles this because there's nothing that says go one in 15 and we'll pay you X amount of dollars. What it does say is if we have a certain amount of draft capital, you, the head coach, gets a bonus for that. That's out of your control as a head coach unless you lose a lot of games. The number is for the 2016 draft ten draft picks. In 2017, they want 11 draft picks. You get draft picks by having high picks. You have high picks by losing a lot of games, and then you flip those high picks into more picks. There's also there's a bonus for Hugh Jackson that salary cap Terry over. And the way this habit cap works, if you don't spend a certain amount of money or I should say if you are a certain amount under the cap for one season, you can carry that over to the next season. Hugh Jackson gets a bonus for that. Now that's sort of a personnel bonus that you would typically give not to the head coach because that is basically going to mean your team will not be maximizing the kind of roster it can build at that point. I should clarify probably the most unusual thing out of all of this outside of the fact that perhaps Hugh Jackson was being indirectly incentivized to lose games is this actually doesn't appear in his contract. Every coach and player contract has to go to the NFL for them to approve, there was a reference to this incentive package in the contract, but the actual details of the incentive package only appear in this booklet called the four year plan, which is an internal document that the browns put out. It's very unusual that this never sort of made its way to the NFL for some sort of approval. Yeah, as you mentioned, Gary, it sounds like there's a lot of reading between the lines that they have to do here because clearly the browns weren't so explicit about this that they outlined it all that everybody would know immediately what was happening. There's a lot of euphemistic and gray language being used, but Connor, you guys wrote that the browns have a Trump card here, right? Because they're not only denying all of these allegations, but they say that they've got proof that they didn't do this. Right. So this is an interesting feature of most coaching contracts in that is basically if you get fired before the end of your contract and you would like to collect the remainder of your money, you sign a release. So basically, if you have any complaints, you have to go to the NFL's court and you have to play by the NFL's rules and it's not like the NFL is a place that's like, oh yes, here hand us all this damaging information about the league and our teams and we would like to put this through the standard legal system where it can get out and have everybody be able to read it. No, everything kind of gets shut down and cut off. And that's kind of really at the heart of this story is I think that there's a lot of coaches who view this as an unnecessary and kind of overarching measure. They're really big companies out there who are ending these release agreements in contracts. So I want to bore down a little bit on how they might have actually tanked if hypothetically they did that. How could they do it? Because we have Hugh Jackson here saying that the browns misled him. They intentionally lost games, but I'm wondering how they could pull that off without Hugh Jackson being at least implicit or even explicitly signing off on it. So the reason we kind of know what Hugh Jackson sentiment in all this is is one of the documents we have, it's a motion to vacate the NFL's arbitration. Now, he didn't go forward with this in cuyahoga county in Ohio. I did ask his lawyer about that his lawyer said, essentially, he didn't like his chances of winning his case in Ohio based on the fact that he did sign a release agreement. But the way this played out according to this filing and again, I do want to reiterate this is Hugh Jackson's lawyer prepared this. We all know lawyers are advocates for their clients. I don't want to present this as the absolute truth on this matter, but Hugh Jackson says that when he went through the interview process with the browns, they essentially told him we got a bunch of cap space. We have some draft capital. We're going to start building this thing up. We're going to win some games. We're going to give you what you need. The incentive package in the four year plan, which is that the heart of Jackson's accusations here. It was not in this contract. He did not see it at all. They didn't even tell him that this four year plan was being assembled until February 13th, according to this motion. And on top of that, it was not finalized until May 23rd. In the meantime, the yaddle off season go through. The browns were not active in the free agent market as a lot of browns fans know about the 2016 off season. They let Mitchell Schwartz go. They decided they did not want to meet his asking price. They'd rather have the compensatory pick. But you can fast forward to 2017..
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"hue jackson" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Buses and trains have improved air filtration. And we're working hard to get all our trains back on the track. My name is Jeff doubt. I'm doing my part to keep the D.C. area moving. You're sitting in the parking lot, hyping yourself up to head inside sheets for a snack run. But there's a line for the counter. A long one. And you start to think, what if I ran into someone I know? And I have to make small talk about the weather, or their pets, or explain why I didn't respond to the Facebook event for their kids candle sale. Take a breath, this is a solo mission. You can speed shop, scan, and pay and peace using sheets go on the sheets app. Just open the app, scan your snacks, and then tap your payment method. And after that, walk out. Like you were never even there. Hi, Gary grambling here, introducing a special episode of the mmm NFL podcast, and it's a crossover. This one is from our Friends at SI weekly, but it features myself and your good friend Conor orr. We're talking all about the investigative piece, Conner and I just released on the allegations of tanking, levied against the 2016 and 17 Cleveland Browns. If you don't already do yourself a favor and subscribe to SI weekly for the best sports journalism out there in podcast form. And now, here's me and Connor with host John Gonzalez and production by Cooper mckim. So this all started back in February and obviously everyone remembers when Brian Flores came out and made public his lawsuit against the league and in the aftermath, Hugh Jackson had tweeted some cryptic things Hugh had implied that something similar happened with the browns, but when he made that claim, that's when the NFL first opened their investigation. On this special bonus episode of sports illustrator weekly, former browns head coach Hugh Jackson claimed the organization misled him during the hiring process and set out to intentionally lose games. On Monday, the NFL said its internal investigation of those allegations found, quote, no evidence to substantiate the accusations. But while the NFL publicly stated that an NFL team did nothing wrong, according to the investigation, that doesn't necessarily mean the browns didn't do what Jackson said they did. SI staffers Gary grambling and Connor or from the Monday morning quarterback reviewed more than 1000 pages of documents pertaining to the allegations made by Jackson. They joined me to discuss the information they uncovered, how the browns allegedly tanked, and what it all means. It's Tuesday, may 3rd. I'm your host, John Gonzalez. From Sports Illustrated and iHeartRadio, this is sports illustrator weekly..
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"hue jackson" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"I am trying to save her every single day. Matt, I know you've got a two week vacation coming up training camp for me is so far out of my mind at this very moment. But Veterans and rookies alike are going to be reporting here in just about three weeks. Dallas Cowboys one of the teams to report early with vets and rookies do in on the 21st of July. We find out today Hard, Knox was announced. It's always the fun event that we look forward to every summer. Who's going to be the team that gets featured in the 4 to 5 Episode series that takes place during the pre season? And it is a team with a ton of storylines. I want to get your opinion on it first. So when you hear it's Dallas Were you groaning? Or were you actually excited? Given the prospect of what this series could become? I like drama. I mean, I'm somebody I I still watch the Real Housewives Select. The more dramatic, the better for me and the Cowboys Just use drama. You know, I sort of have a love hate relationship with Jerry Jones. I think I find him to be ridiculous. I like watching his very I love how he makes himself the center of the story. No matter what. You know, I wouldn't want to coach for him or maybe even play for him. But I find him funny. I think it'll be great. The last time they were in Dallas, remember, there was a guy Who would sing on his guitar the whole time I forget his name, but I really enjoyed him. So I also think there's a lot of storylines there with Dak and the rest, So I like it. But hard knocks to me is like the one can't miss show. It almost doesn't matter what the team is. I thought they you know one is good last year because they had to do the covid thing, and they did two teams, But I think the Cowboys will be great. It's full of drama. You know, also watching Cowboy fans be disappointed is one of my favorite things during the course of the season, so I am really going to enjoy having the Cowboys on hard dogs. You and everybody else who dislikes America's team. Well, just like the court to be clear. I just I love watching their fans be sad. There's certain fan bases that when they're sad, they're more fun. And I think the Cowboys are one One thing I'm going to be interested to see because I kind of tuned out from hard knocks back in 2019. I was expecting so much from the Raider situation that they got hard knocks there. They've got Antonio Brown. It's going to all this drama. They were going to be there to capture it all in. None of it aired like that's the problem. I have. Yes. HBO gets unfettered access. But the GM in the head coach usually are in cahoots with each other, like, well, we don't want this getting out. There is so much of its sanitized I want the hard knocks where what was it 2000 and eight or 2000 and nine when it was a Cincinnati Bengals? Mike Zimmer, the coach that I cover who coaches? The Minnesota Vikings was a defensive coordinator of the Bangles, and I thought that that was one of the most honest And true representations of training camp and what it's like for a coach in the NFL. I encourage you all to go back, Go on YouTube and find it. I mean, it is incredible and I feel like it's gotten so watered down in recent years. My only hope is that Jerry Jones loves himself and his team so much that he wants it all out. There may be some of the dirty laundry mixed in with that. You have a team that's coming off of six and 10 record last year. Dak Prescott an obviously, the very, you know, awful ankle injury that he had, but he's coming back. He just got paid this absurd contract. You have a host of really, really good receivers. You've got Running back who is always very polarizing. Dan Quinn's the defensive coordinator for unit taking over a unit from Mike Nolan. That was awful. Last year they've got you know, a first round draft pick and Micah Parsons. There's so many storylines here. That I'm really hoping this will become a compelling Year for hard knocks because, like you mentioned last year, I honestly felt they did a great job within the confines of showing what Covid was like His teams were reporting for camp. They had the radar or the Rams and the Chargers last year. But there's a couple other teams. I think that would have been a great choice. But remember, teams have to agree to wanted to be on hard knocks. So if you are hoping to hear it was the Green Bay Packers today. They want. They do not want the attention because they've already like stub their toe with the situation with Aaron Rodgers so many times, Matt that I don't think they want to bring any more light. To what is a very ugly situation that has no resolution whatsoever to this point in Green Bay. Yeah, I would have loved to have seen Aaron Rodgers because I think he is now reach new levels of whiny nous. I mean, like they they need Leia y woe is me from Aaron Rodgers. I do think would have been a good five weeks. Enjoyed the one a few years back with the Jets when Rex Ryan was being ridiculous in New York, and then I thought about having a snack. Yes, and I really enjoyed the Browns because the Browns it was like when you knew that Freddie Kitchens was in like way over his head when he seemingly didn't even really realize how football team worked. Like those were the those are the ones that I enjoy? Because, you know, I do think they probably hide some of it. I mean, they hit a lot of the Antonio brown stuff. But I also think that the what interests me is the interaction between coaches and I do think you get a sense when you watch it, whether or not people are up to their job or not. Which I really enjoyed. But to me, it's the only reality show in sports. Besides that, F one show on Netflix that truly captures What it's like behind the scenes. You've covered teams behind the scenes. It's hard to get that on camera. I think the F one show does a good job of it. And I think hard knocks does. I think they're the only two that really do it well and last chance you but those are proteins. Sure, And I mean last chance. U is in its own class of showing what really goes down and how the sausage is made. In college junior college football programs in junior college basketball programs. They've done a tremendous job with that. The one thing you mentioned that with the Browns when you talk about the demise of Um, you know, Freddie kitchens go back before that with Todd Haley and then head coach Hue Jackson. That was episode one of that sea of that year where those two are bickering over how they're going to use Duke Johnson and you saw You know in 2018 when both of them are fired on the same Monday, after a lot, they can trace that back to the hard knocks episode where those two are like bickering at each other and Yeah, that worked out real well, didn't they do the Browns like two years in a row because they knew it was so good. I mean, like that, and it's their winning team now, so I don't know if they're going to qualify for it for quite some time, But they certainly were the drama factory many moons ago before they got New staff and what appears to be a very good new direction. Everyone's got a cousin from Boston who forgets their wallet at dinner, but never forgets a sixer of refreshing Sam Adams. Cheers to that the Boston beer company in Boston Massachusetts saver..
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"hue jackson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"That's 855 to 1 to 4 to 27 Give me a shout. By 5 to 1 to 4 to 27. That's the number to get in. You need me on Twitter at Shaun T. Pendergast. It's You know, it's weird during the break I was looking. So we're talking about Tebow. I went the first two hours and show without mentioning Tim Tebow his name and I mentioned Tim Tebow his name. And then people want to talk about Tim Tebow. It's weird that way. Um way forget Tim Tebow is entire NFL career. Consists of 35 games in 16 starts, and only 14 of those starts were a quarterback. Who's that one season in 2011, where he took over for Denver, and he got into the playoffs at eight. Nate Happen to catch happen against lightning in a bottle. With winning some very improbable games in a division with some really bad teams. Keep in mind. 2011 was That was back when The pre Andy Reid Days and Kansas City that was during the Hue Jackson days in Oakland and Chargers being the Chargers. So, yeah, it make out it done back then, For Tim Tebow. He was seven and four is a starter, though. It's just winning weird games to remember the playoff game. He won. Marius Thomas, with a bomb in overtime. Against Pittsburgh. And then they got fed to the wolves the next week against the New England Patriots, But, um, But, yeah, that's his career in the NFL. Not not that long. People are saying like he hasn't played in seven or eight years. Yeah, he hasn't played in an actual game. Since 2012. And so that's that that is the the really strange part about this is if it were anybody else. Like this is this is damn near. This is damn near, like the dudes that hang out near the stadium with a sign hoping that somebody will sign them. We have somebody like that here in Houston. He went by the nickname wrecking Ball. And he was this kind of big, strong, stocky dude, just a regular guy. Who would stand next to NRG Stadium with a sign every year. I know there's every year, but it was more than more than once. Have a blue collar, bearded dude. Seems like a real nice guy, but he was hoping that the Texans would sign him and bring him into camp. I feel like if he made a good enough impression on Bill O Brien O'Brien might have given him four years $16 million or something like that. He could have shown that he is the first in in the last one to leave. But that's neither here nor there. But like Tebow is is far is just the profile of a player in the last time he touched a football competitively. He's he's one cut above that guy. Surely the profile but I get it. He's Tim Tebow, and he's got a relationship with Urban Meyer in a relationship with the city of Jacksonville. He's actually been playing sports over the last several years. Granted, it's minor league baseball, but it's an athletic endeavor. He's appearing. To keep himself in pretty good shape. Unlike all due respect, wrecking ball, who was a heavier, heavyset guy? So It is odd. I will grant you that now I was on Twitter and I'm looking at Tim Tebow. One thing he would do. It is up their social media profile. Tim Tebow has got 4.8 million Twitter followers. Is that 4.8 or 4.5? I can't My my screen's a little blurry four point by screen. I mean my eyes. It's over four million. Is he single handedly? Double the amount of Twitter followers on The Jaguars roster. You know what I mean? Like If you took all 89 other players do they even add up to four million? I would guess. Yes, but boy, I I don't know. Maybe the 53 Man roster because here's the thing they're most high profile player. Other than Tim Tebow. Once he signs is Trevor Lawrence, who's not on Twitter. It's almost like a trick question. Well, because you look at it go well. Trevor Laurence Gotta have a couple 100,000 quarterback. It Clemson. But no, he's not on Twitter. So, Yeah. There you go. Tim Tebow. Bring him on for the Twitter followers, man. Bring him on for the clicks, baby. 855 to 1 to four. CBS. If you want in on this show, let's go to Atlanta and talked to Steve Steve Europe on CBS Sports Radio. What's up, Steve? Wants a great to be with you. I'm on the shores of Lake Lanier here just north of Atlanta, not far from the Atlanta Falcons training camp. I've been thinking about this white while listening to show been enjoying it. Keeping is like a championship fighter getting back in the room. How's them? Damn what anybody thinks about him? I just think that we ought to get behind him. See what happens. And there's the other thing I think urban thinking is it's like a media ploy that keep O is going to take some of the attention away from Trevor and let Trevor concentrate. And what you know what? Uh, What do you think about that? Yeah, Steve, You know what? I appreciate the phone calls. Do you appreciate the kind words I agree with half of what you said. I agree with the part. That. Hey, let's just see where this goes and enjoy it. Because honestly, like I'll be honest with you. I don't care about the Jacksonville Jaguars. I root for a team that's in the same division is the Jacksonville Jaguars, so I should be rooting for the Jags to make bad decisions. By definition. And I just can't get worked up. Either way about this one. Just because we We don't know what Tebow is gonna look like doing what they're going to ask him to do. We can forecast and pretend we know, but but we don't So I agree with that part, Steve, like, hey, let's just see where it goes. Yeah, Life is short, YOLO. Let's see what this Tebow h back thing goes. As far as it taking attention away from Trevor Laurence. I think you know it's an interesting theory to throw out there. I don't know. I don't think that's the case. And by the way, if Trevor Laurence is somebody who needs the attention taken away from him by Tim Tebow of all people, then you got the wrong guy a quarterback, you should have been using the number one overall pick on him. If Trevor Laurence is a guy who needs distraction so that he can focus on getting ready for the season. Then you're you're sunk before the season gets done, and Trevor Laurence doesn't strike me as somebody that's like that Trevor Laurence has played on the biggest stage is against the best teams, he rarely loses. Seems a pretty good head on his shoulders. So I don't worry about Trevor Laurence. I disagree with that part. Steve, I'm off for conspiracy theories. I just don't think that one's valid. But I'm with you on the Let's enjoy it part. Yeah. Why not, Man Sports, not life or death. 855 to 1 to four, CBS. All right. So as I sit here and say, Hey, it's just sports. It's not life or death. I'm about to It worked up again over the NBA postseason..
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"Him it 855 to 1 to four. CBS. That's 855 to 124227. Me shout. A pipeline to 1 to 4 to 27. That's the number to get in. You need me on Twitter at Shaun T. Pendergast. It's you know, it's weird. During the break. I was looking through talking about Tebow. I went the first two hours and show without mentioning Tim Tebow. His name and I mentioned Tim Tebow his name. And then people want to talk about Tim Tebow. It's weird that way. Um way forget Tim Tebow owes entire NFL career. Consists of 35 games in 16 starts, and only 14 of those starts were a quarterback. Who's that one season in 2011, where he took over for Denver, and he got into the playoffs and eight Nate. Happen to catch happen against lightning in a bottle. With winning some very improbable games in a division with some really bad teams. Keep in mind. 2011 was That was back when The pre Andy Reid Days and Kansas City that was during the Hue Jackson days in Oakland and Chargers being the Chargers. So, yeah, it make out it done back then, For Tim Tebow. He was seven and four is a starter, though. It's just winning weird games to remember the playoff game. He won. Marius Thomas, with a bomb in overtime. Against Pittsburgh. And then they got fed to the wolves the next week against the New England Patriots, But, um, But, yeah, that's his career in the NFL. Not not that long. People are saying like he hasn't played in seven or eight years. Yeah, he hasn't played in an actual game. Since 2012. And so that's that that is the the really strange part about this is if it were anybody else. Like this is this is damn near. This is damn near, like the dudes that hang out near the stadium with a sign hoping that somebody will sign them. We have somebody like that here in Houston. He went by the nickname Wrecking Ball. And he was this kind of big, strong, stocky dude, just a regular guy. Who would stand next to NRG Stadium with a sign every year. You know there's every year, but it was more than more than once. Have a blue collar, bearded dude. Seems like a real nice guy, but he was hoping that the Texans would sign him and bring him into camp. I feel like if you made a good enough impression on Bill O Brien O'Brien might have given him four years $16 million or something like that. He could have shown that he is the first in in the last one to leave. But that's neither here nor there. But like Tebow is is far is just the profile of a player in the last time he touched a football competitively. He's he's one cut above that guy. Surely the profile but I get it. He's Tim Tebow. And he's got a relationship with Urban Meyer and a relationship with the city of Jacksonville. He's actually been playing sports. Over the last several years that granted it's minor league baseball. But it's an athletic endeavor. He's appearing to keep himself in pretty good shape. Unlike all due respect, wrecking ball, who was a heavier, heavyset guy? So It is odd. I will grant you that now I was on Twitter and I'm looking at Tim Tebow. One thing he would do. It is up their social media profile. Tim Tebow has got 4.8 million Twitter followers. Is that 4.8 or 4.5? I can't My my screen's a little blurry four point by screen. I mean my eyes. It's over four million. Is he single handedly? Double. The amount of Twitter followers on The Jaguars roster. You know what I mean? Like If you took all 89 other players do they even add up to four million? I would guess. Yes, but boy, I I don't know. Maybe the 53 Man roster because here's the thing they're most high profile player. Other than Tim Tebow. Once he signs is Trevor Lawrence, who's not on Twitter. It's almost like a trick question. Well, because you look at it go well. Trevor Laurence got to have a couple 100,000 quarterback. It Clemson. But no, he's not on Twitter. So, Yeah. There you go. Tim Tebow. Bring him on for the Twitter followers, man. Bring him on for the clicks, baby. 855 to 1 to four. CBS. If you want in on this show, let's go to Atlanta and talked to Steve Steve Europe on CBS Sports Radio. What's up, Steve? So it's great to be with you. I'm on the shores of Lake Lanier here just north of Atlanta, not far from the Atlanta Falcons training camp. I've been thinking about this right while and listen to the show been enjoying it. Keeping is like a championship fighter getting back in the room. How's it going? What anybody thinks about him? I just think we ought to get behind him. See what happens. And there's the other thing I think urban thinking is it's like a media ploy that keep O is going to take some of the attention away from Trevor and let Trevor concentrate. And what you know what? Uh, What do you think about that? Yes, Steve. You know what? I appreciate the phone calls. Do you appreciate the kind words I agree with half of what you said. I agree with the part. That Hey, let's just see where this goes and enjoy it. Because honestly, like I'll be honest with you. I don't care about the Jacksonville Jaguars. I root for a team that's in the same division is the Jacksonville Jaguars, so I should be rooting for the Jags to make bad decisions. By definition. And I just can't get worked up. Either way about this one. Just because we don't know what Tebow is gonna look like doing what they're going to ask him to do. We can forecast and pretend we know, but.
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"Up. And as you know by now the Cleveland Browns fired their coach hue Jackson on Monday after he went three thirty six and one and two and a half years in Cleveland, and now huge accent is opening up about all that went on. He told Cleveland dot com. Quote, had we been doing and your one able to get us to do when you're three. There's no question. We would already be a winning football team. You can't go one in fifteen or sixteen and have people like you unless you've come out and explain to everyone that you're going to lose. And you can't say that publicly we've passed on three franchise quarterbacks. The first two years in wench Watson, Mahomes, we played with a quarterback room was zero wins in the league. He played with St. free agents and practice squad players in wide. Receivers get our offense was the same or better than what we were doing this year. There is no way that should happen. He sounds a little bit like someone who's calling the Greg Brinda show on Cayenne or something like that. But the reality is Louis, isn't he right? Right. Yeah. In many respects. He is look we all know when we look back on it now. And we knew when it was happening then that the front office that they did have in place. Then didn't know what they were doing. Okay. There were a lot of people who wanted to get behind the fact that hey, you know, what they had some forward thinkers, they had some people that they were that were kind of outside of the box hires and Paul depot Desta. He was a baseball guy coming in the football, and people are people were getting very very much. So agitated over the fact that there are many football traditionalists who were saying this isn't going to work this isn't gonna work because this is a game that is rife with nuance. It is not just a
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Browns fire coach Hue Jackson ahead of trade deadline
"General manager with their old. Hey, coach, hue Jackson. It was destined to fail. And it did finally on Monday when the Browns released Hugh Jackson with time left on his contract this season and next season. So the Browns will be paying him through two thousand nineteen but it will give John Dorsey and Alonzo Highsmith and Elliott Wolff in the Browns for an office the chance to go hire their own head coach, they are I in the pool this year. They get the start looking for an interviewing coaching candidates right now, if they want to go talk to Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma taking go do that. If they want to go talk to any other college coach, they can go do that. They don't have to hide behind anything right now. The Browns are the first out for a coaching search. And then of course, they make the change in offense coordinator firing Todd Haley and bringing in Freddie kitchens who doesn't have extensive experience running an NFL offense. So it'll be interesting to see how kitchens calls play. Days starting Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs. And so the Cleveland Browns the first team to overhaul their coaching staff, but the real changes came Tuesday with a flurry of moves that made this one of the busiest trade deadline days in NFL history. Last year was very busy. Because at the last moment in the twenty four hours leading up to the deadline. We saw Jimmy Garoppolo traded from New England to San Francisco j Gye traded from Miami to Philadelphia Dwayne Brown from Houston to Seattle. Marcel Darius from buffalo to Jacksonville and Kelvin Benjamin going from Carolina to buffalo end the almost trade of AJ McCarron from Cincinnati to Cleveland, the got foiled when the Browns could not get the deal done in time by the four o'clock deadline by the four o'clock deadline this year. There was no such thing. Holding back a flurry of moves. We saw de. Ver- trade Pro Bowl wide receiver. Damaris Thomas and a seventh round pick to the Houston. Texans for a fourth and seventh round pick. As will the interesting part of that trade is that Thomas is first game with the Texans will come Sunday in Denver against the Broncos team. That just traded him. Thomas was the longest tenure Bronco and get the Broncos say goodbye to him because really they weren't going to keep his fourteen million dollars salary around next season in my mind. The most surprising move right before the deadline. Came win Detroit traded golden Tate to Philadelphia for a third round pick. So many teams had made so many inquiries to the lions about golden Tate. But they had resisted all overtures for him. But finally, they broke down and dealt Tate to the eagles who for the second straight year made a trade right at the deadline last year Gye this year Tate, as they look to try to keep up with the rest of the NFC east another team in the NFC making.
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"Here's Kevin Powell. Thank you, Judy. Mitch trubisky's now throwing multiple touchdowns in four straight games to TD passes in the bears. Twenty four ten win over the jets at the prettiest victories, but the defense was stout. The offense didn't turn the ball over guard. How long did suffer a painful looking foot injury? They're still evaluating him. Khalil Mack remains day-to-day bears and buffalo Sunday and the bills playing tonight. They host the patriots. New England is a two touchdowns favorites the receiver. Josh Gordon will be disciplined for tardiness likely sit the first quarter Browns have fire coach hue Jackson and offensive coordinator. Todd Haley northwestern with a big division win against Wisconsin. Over the weekend of next for the cats a meeting with Notre Dame at Ryan field on Saturday. The two win bowls host the defending champion warriors tonight. Blackhawks play next on a Wednesday. The Red Sox will host a championship parade on Halloween to celebrate another World Series title. And a pair of roster moves for the White Sox today they picked up a four million dollar option on reliever Nate Jones. But the night a six million dollar option on starter. James shields. Opting instead to exercise a two million dollar buyout MLB free.
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"Weekend NFL. The Browns the Bengals. Preseason tomorrow night Cleveland playing. At, the giants. Rookie, receiver Antonio Calloway is not expected to be there. After being cited over the weekend for marijuana possession here's coach. Hue Jackson on the situation. I wanna know about it obviously I'm disappointed My job is to make. Sure, that I Look into these things understand them all and then I got Callaway drafted by the Browns with. Baggage, he had failed a drug test at the