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"houdini dini" Discussed on Double Toasted
"Ain't nobody had him arrested in this in the middle of this white suburban neighborhood he's been on his girl. All Day I'll say this is a fucking fantasy. It's on the digital. No this no, he does not exist because this as. His ASS would not exist after this they'd be a shot is as. At this moment. Is the nineties to. He would have been Rodney King by this point. Four cool out. Don't know. Maybe it's the of Black Kid Chicago blocked. Cocktail. Never stopped on cost. ME. you find out the name is Larry. and Larry Houdini. Dini man and he uses the you realize you get to know Larry Houdini. You realize like you know what? I. Got Me. I'm watching the most, annoying. Magical Mystical Negro Movie Ever it is a magical Mystical Negro movie man that's all it is oh. Oh Yeah. That's the first thing I thought in the more he went on the more I went. Out I get it this kid is in love with the fresh prince and he's The role was written for anybody specifically. Not specifically black and they just thought I'm just going to fresh prince the shitter this is the shit out of this is like he's he's doing will Smith as genie. Even happened. Wow, you're right. Point. That's what I was. GonNa. Say Man. You, realize like he's just not. He's not just a you realize he's just not a magical mystical Negro in this at all. I, he's just. He's just he's just an annoying magical mystical Negro. In the beginning when you see me and Mars, right way he's talking about he's dressed up like a he's doing will smith he's even dressed up like Louis Smith remanding..
"houdini dini" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"This is the guy who now effectively effectively has won Iowa so look. Here's the state of the Democrat Party right now. You Joe Biden. Who doesn't know what state he's in you Bernie Sanders was a Marxist who's a Pro Castro pro pro Soviet Union Marxists who by the way is being treated so kindly and so lightly by the mainstream press? It's beyond dishonest. And then you have Mike Bloomberg who should not be discounted Mike Blue Mike. Bloomberg is GONNA outlast a lot of people because he's planning to spend the billion if not two billion dollars. The Democrats still can't count their votes correctly in Iowa. They're being told they after re canvas it is it is really what I've called it for a long time. A Marxist circus it's a Marxist circus folks happening in real time and and I'll tell you there you have these these wise Democrats who have won elections before okay. I mean Bernie. Sanders has never won the presidency. James Carville has Chris Matthews has been around campaigns that have been successful for Democrats to win the presidency. And I actually have a working theory and I'm going to get in once. I kind of break all this down that that the country is far less liberal than I ever realized and then a lot of us have realized there was just a flash in the PAN moment and candidate that actually made it seem as if the country triest far more liberal than we thought and that was Barack Obama. I actually think we're a center right country. I think Barack Obama knows rest center right country. He actually ran as a centre-right candidate who never bashed America. who was for traditional marriage? WHO said bad teacher should be fired? WHO said you have to work hard and play by the rules of succeed? Obviously his Marxist colors became more clear the more more in his presidency. We saw he was a unicorn. We are a center right country. We are a country where the people that actually show up. Vote not the sentiment of the country but the likely Klay voters the people that show up. We our country that believes in hard work that does not believe in victimhood. which by the way if you go into poor neighborhoods in this country? That's right now. Let's get fired if you go into poor neighborhoods in this country and you go talk to immigrants people that have come legally into America people that have come and waited in line and you ask them to statement and do you think you can pull yourself up by the bootstraps which is a metaphor. Okay I want you to imagine someone pulling himself up by the bootstraps not literally but figuratively pulling themselves up by the bootstraps you. They'll say yes. Two Words Ursula Burns. You knew that is Ursula Burns. Who is the CEO of Xerox Fox? I got two words continually for you Clarence Thomas Ursula Burns. Jeff bezos. I go name after name after name. Elon Musk every single. One of these people grew up with basically nothing. Did you know that. Jeff bezos mother almost had an abortion that that Jeff. Jeff bezos mother almost had an abortion. That Amazon would not exist that this trillion dollar company would not exist Ursula Burns. Who is the CEO of Xerox grew? Grew up in absolute poverty. Clarence Thomas grew up basically in the antebellum south racism entrenched. We never talk about Clarence Thomas as a country country. We don't talk about him enough as a conservative movement. Clarence Thomas is a hero Clarence. Thomas is a visionary Clarence. Thomas has courage clarity of his convictions. There's a new movie about Clarence. It's Thomas coming out. I highly recommend it. I don't remember the name of it but Clarence Thomas is a hero and he gets treated like garbage by the mainstream press. Now why am I talking about pulling yourself up by the bootstraps will because the philosopher King of the Democrat Party the head of the intelligentsia from the Bronx no sarcasm. She's brilliant. She's amazing you know why she's amazing. She has the capacity to confound even clueless people she confuses people that have never been confused before i. It's a magic trick. It's like Houdini Dini. She's able to do things that I mean. People that have never been confused about anything look at her and that are liberal by the way and they say oh my goodness play tape of Alexandria. 'cause you cortes who you can fill in whatever descriptive words you want to about her. I will not use those words on the Charlie Kirk show. We are family friendly friendly Christian show here and we will not use those words here k Hutchinson also want to thank you about bringing up the poverty draft and his idea of a bootstrap. Wrap this idea and this metaphor of bootstrap started off as a joke. Because it's a physical impossibility to lift yourself up by a bootstrap by your shoelaces. It's physically impossible. The whole thing is a joke there. She is Congressional hearing and by the way she had another beautiful hopeful tweets out there. She said that did you know that Amazon and GE did not pay as much in taxes as undocumented immigrants played well first of all she's never heard of fake attacks okay. Do you notify Ka taxes. It's called the social security tax. So what is Amazon's total payroll. What is Geez total payroll? Do you WANNA use facebook or some other corporate for example. They don't pay income tax. I don't agree with that by the way I actually think that we should. They should pay some part of income tax agreement on that. But if you actually want Vica is whatever whatever find out their whole payroll is and eight percent of their whole payroll every year. Okay every business owner out there knows that regardless of your income tax burden you gotta Pay Feick attacks else else. They pay they pay property tax. You know those massive Amazon fulfillment centers that you drive by in whether it be Queen Creek Arizona where I don't even know if there is one but I bet there is nothing but land in Queen Creek Arizona or mill. I know there's one in pleasant prairie Wisconsin. Okay I know there's one near Cincinnati. Oh I've driven by them you you can listen to an entire episode of the Kirk Show when you drive by these things okay. It takes a half hour to complete it. You're like wow that's a really big building. It's still a really big building. Okay you know what happens when you buy land Alexandria Qazi Cortes. You know what happens when you buy property you pay property tax. What happens when you pay property tax schools get funded okay? So Amazon has property tax. They also pay state income tax. Now she might say well they get all that money tiff money in certain areas. Yes but what about the Amazon bookstore door that I just walked by in North Scottsdale okay. They're paying taxes somewhere. Okay when you have a trillion dollar enterprise. It is impossible to avoid taxes. Do you are else you pay taxes when you buy product. We don't have a VAT tax in America. We don't we don't have a VAT tax so when you buy product you're you're you have to pay pass sales tax we do not have a VAT tax which means you do not pass the tax on through the next you can't pass it on to the consumer so the way it works in Europe which maybe this is how she thinks it works America. Because I'm not sure six is our strong suit. Maybe it is your strong suit. She's still trying to figure out. How many branches of government there are? She thinks that the unemployment goes down. A rate goes down because people all to jobs not gonNA make the compelling argument that is because that civics is our number one course however in Europe the way it works in Vat tax value added tax. The business does not pay money when they buy products so for example restaurant in downtown Paris. They'll buy a bunch of meat. They don't pay. They don't pay sales tax on the meet. The only person that pays the sales taxes the end user consumer they pass it through not the way it works America everybody pay sales tax every part of the transaction for example. If you have a film company and you buy a bunch of cameras you have to pay sales tax on if you have a restaurant and you buy a bunch of vegetables or you buy a bunch of salad salad dressing whenever you're paying sales tax so if you have a trillion dollar enterprise Amazon which you know what Amazon also owns whole foods. Okay Whole Foods wholefoods pays anything tax I mean do you think whole foods has to pay anything and sales sales tax. What she is saying is so extraordinarily dishonest? That it's a danger to our republic and so but by the way. Let's just pretend what she said was true. So let's pretend let's just talk about income tax which by the way illegals don't pay income tax unless they're stealing social security numbers okay. They literally don't pay income tax. That's the whole part about being illegal is. You're not supposed to be here so there. She says in her tweet she says undocumented immigrants pay more taxes than Amazon or facebook do. Oh I'm sorry so she doesn't even say income tax she says. US taxes so she has a trillion dollar company and a seven hundred fifty billion dollar company and she thinks they pay no taxes at all state Local sales nothing. She's so so mistaken. It's rather incredible including fico tax when you employ people but guess what do you know where Illegal Eagle immigrants should pay. Taxes in their home country illegally should be paying taxes where they're actually a citizen of you know it's really interesting dressing. I've always wondered this and I've never gotten a good answer when someone leaves Nicaragua illegally when someone leaves Guatemala illegally. Do they notify their government or do they like a missing persons order for them. I'm not kidding missile. When they leave Nicaragua they leave Mexico? I mean isn't there a kind of a question where this person went. Do they send the police. He's after them does dare equivalent of the. Irs worried that the revenue has now been lost that this person is longer there. What do you think the back tax burden is for that person in Guatemala City? When they're no longer there no sarcasm at all by the way when they leave their country their coward for advocating their citizen right of the country that raise them? So I'm so sick and tired of hearing that the illegals in our country are somehow doing this as an act of bravery no. They're fleeing their responsibility to improve their own country. Of course it's easier to the wealthier country. Of course it is. It'd be a lot easier for some people in America to go to Switzerland if you could get in Switzerland like good luck. They have the strictest immigration laws in entire country and took on the strict immigration laws the entire world. But the point is Alexandra. Cossio Cortez that these these people probably. Oh a fair amount of taxes in the countries that they flee they probably they probably have some sort of a thought they have some sort of responsibility that they have advocated when they came into into our country illegally. So of course these countries don't care because they get huge amount in remittances so you have Nicaraguan. A WHO GETS INTO AMERICA GETS A job Al Cash and then goes to a dollar general and send that money back to Nicaragua in the form of. US dollars which is a much stronger. Currency so these countries love it. They get rid of the worst aspects of their society aside. And guess what I'm GonNa say something politically incorrect. Not every single person that has entered the country illegally in the last twenty years is a model citizen. Okay there are rapists rapists. There are murderers. They are really bad. People that have entered our country and I have gone to the families that have lost loved ones at the hands of illegal immigrants. Of course there's some nice people who enter okay absolutely but there's some real savages that have come into our country. I'm talking about Michetti style. Murderers that have entered America and people have said to kind of finish. It's my point. We'll try. That's not the Christian thing to believe in. We'll look first and foremost individually we are called to be loving and accepting of all people absolutely but when you design a civil government and you have restraints on resources there have to be limitations on all things and it does a disservice to your own citizens that are already presently here have unlimited limited..
"houdini dini" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird
"Clashes with well. We'll help those people. That's I might be a little biased against areas. I apologized to you. Wonderful Aries out there. And I'll just stop on the head. Okay so famous aries. Are Reese Witherspoon Jane Goodall Diana Ross Marvin Gaye Harry Houdini Dini Jessica Lang Billie holiday. Quentin Tarantino Leonardo Da Vinci and Vincent Van Gogh Not so nice list. That's a hell hell of a list. It is a hell of a list all right my next fire sign is Leo. Their duality is masculine. Leo's birthdays are July. Twenty twenty third through August twenty second. Leo's are fiercely loyal creative playful and funny they are also joyous when they have a receptive audience for their natural talents. They too are natural leaders in opposition of these good traits. Leo's can become conceited. The self centered and power hungry without an audience. ellios good traits quickly become his bad ones for Leo to be happy he must remember to be selfless and lead others in living there truth. Their interests include performance sunbathing which is kind of a funny interest. That's is raising and cuddling. Oh I mean cuddling is nice and fund. Raising is good for everybody. All the Leo's that I know are a handful. Yeah I know eleo. My sister's Eleo. Yeah I know a few and she is a lioness. Yes they are. I'm I'm not saying yes about your sister. But saying about the Leos in my life handful are a lot. But maybe that's Leo Sagittarius thing may be around other people. Leo's are a cuddly lion but around the Sagittarius class out. I mean I think Leo's are just passionate people and they're very I think I really. Yeah I've ever met has a really big personality. Negative or positive when they walk in big emotions. Yes okay yes I agree with that. Okay so let's hear about their sexy time okay so in relationships. Leo's are all or nothing then. Sense Male Leo is the most loyal of all the signs. Leo Man Likes Everyone. The Leo man likes sex every time to be like the first time like it's a special like occasion every time they have sex while calm down. Sometimes you just gotTa get it in what you fit it in exactly while the lien can be somewhat vanilla the in the sack there is nothing the naughty little lioness won't try once. Wow I know okay so turn on's for Leo men. Long Long Raven hair interesting right Innocence Vanilla sex massage passionate kissing hugging gang. spooning cuddling natural beauty missionary position. Fresh sense Outdoor sex sex schoolgirls cheerleaders and ballplayer as in. Okay play with my testicles. I thank you thank you for explaining that okay and the lioness is turn on are also dark hair darting is what why why would you. I don't like darting millionaire uncomfortable. You're shifty just took once was I. Don't even Latinos or Mediterranean people bull defined packs or biceps Wrestling Nice Beach sex sand banned everywhere teasing tickling handcuffs and whips male strip clubs and sixty nine inning. Way Eh more adventurous than the maleas interesting. Yes well okay. So here is the thing about the signs male versus female. You have to think of it at some most of the Times. It's almost like two sides of the same coin So sometimes they are reverse of their female counterparts or male counterparts counterparts. Gotcha okay that makes sense. Yeah I'm learning okay so matches for Leo Aries. It's love at first sight. Aires stories found her Alpha partner in the match with Leo Their affair quickly becomes committed. And there's no bells and whistles in bed ED automatic XY all right Virgo Leo is someone Virgo Won't seek to change and in bed virgo. He's he's eager to take orders from the Leo. So that would be like a Virgo Mail and Leo Woman Pairing might be the opposite with genders reversed cancer meticulous about career matters self concerns are joyfully sacrifice for the greater good. The the tender cancer takes sex with a Leo to the top bells and whistles explosions. Cancer answered very emotional and I think they bring out the emotional side of Leo. That makes sense. They need office would be very intense very emotional romantic shadowy kisses in the dark. Yeah Topgun. Famous Leo's Dustin Hoffman. Billy Bob Thornton Mick Jagger Sam Elliott it. Patrick we love you. Sam Elliott Andrew Moustache way totally right it Jennifer Lopez Halle Berry. Eh Martha Stewart Whitney Houston. Annie Oakley and Julia Child another great list. These are good. I'm telling you I have a feeling we're going to get to a list later on. That's not so great. It's all wall now. The final fire sign the best. Fires Sagittarians duality masculine birthdays November twenty second through December twenty first a Sagittarius Korea is an adventurer always seeking knowledge. The main goal of a Sagittarian is to find wisdom and ultimately the meaning of life. No big McDill small fries. A Sagittarius is philosophical by nature funny and enjoys expanding his mind through the learning of other cultures religions and and so on they are always ready to meet new. People WanNa Sagittarius is out of balance he can be overzealous and too trusting they can fall victim to shit like colts Let's jump right in. There sounds great. Love it Leno. Quality wins needed. You know what don't know. Don't explain it lately I asked You I. Am You have shifty eyes and I'm into it I'm into it. They can also jump into relationships too quickly. How you doing? Let's go to Vegas this. Let's wrap this up. Their search for wisdom can transform into restlessness making the Sagittarius. Become impatient impatient and a wanderer. I can I feel that I feel that within my restless soul me too yeah. Their interests include camping horseback riding. Is that just because of the half horse half man. Maybe I gotTa Gimme. Well I think it is. I think that's an easy one. I'm not personally into horseback riding but I had a horseback riding incident so that is just where you wearing a belly button ring. No Oh okay just checking. I just wanted to know if there was a theme. No there was I actually technically yes. I was wearing a belly button ring but he did not have anything to do with my belly. Button Ring there was not a carrot on my belly button ring so I personally am a little bit skittish around giant animals. I love horses but I mean I'm safe with them. Sagittarius also include traveling and exploring which makes sense. Yeah I like both of those things and I like camping to the Sagittarius. I mean it is a cool sign. I feel like I love. How and very cool? It's one of the Sagittarius is the person who is your friend that you're always going to have a good time with. We're not biased. This is just facts. If you look up any astrology book they say top. Three Signs Sagittarius is right there number one Sagittarius Number two Sagittarius number three. Terry's okay so let's get into the Sagittarius and sex so so stage male has luck with the ladies from the minute he gets hormones basically and if he isn't having sex he's thinking about having sex. If anyone is going to have a mirror on his ceiling it would be Sagittarius. She's in rice. And a Sagittarius woman can be so forward in her approach for a lover she might as well wear a sandwich. Board control is also very important to Sagittarius especially a woman during sex. And did you know you probably didn't know anyway. But the body part ruled oh by Sagittarius. Are The thighs ooh barracks Nice. Yeah so Sagittarius particularly would have very very strong or muscular thighs and legs so in when it comes to sex. A Sagittarius can sustain vigorous positions longer than most women because of their strong legs and thighs number. One that's why we're number. That's exactly why we're number one. That's all we needed so turn ONS first. Sagittarius male is tall females flight attendants pantyhose are nylons. role-reversal foursomes outdoor sex leopardskin. Wild woman fantasies. I am intrigued hunting or capturing games Gigolo role play and ask play for Sagittarius Women your turn ons might be executives spontaneity deep penetration wining and dining flattery. I mean who doesn't love flattery thick penises rock-hard dies and asses make sense girl on top up from behind stocking garters mirrors sixty nine and call girl role play very nice good good. Pairings for Sagittarius one being Scorpio. Sagittarius is Scorpio's good luck charm and Scorpio isn't letting go and for the sake of staying together. Nothing is off limits in the bedroom Sagittarius and Sagittarius so a lot of the times in the Zodiac double double signs are not good good they don't that would make sense normally get along But like the gods and goddesses of Mount Olympus the to make a mythic pair sexually this stuff is what legends are made of Damn exactly and then I throw everything off the table. We start having sex right here right now. That'd be a hell of a podcast. Famous agitations are Brad Pitt. Yes I mean that's it is is the only one that we care about Benjamin Bratt Joe Dimaggio. Sammy Davis Junior Winston Churchill. Billy the Kid Scarlett Johansson Johannesson Julianne Moore Jennifer beals. TYRA banks Billie Jean King. Jane austen and Emily Dickinson. Another great list. Just fantastic list. Is this a non alcoholic. I've had like three of them and I feel totally sober. Is it now. We're going to get into the earth signs. I'm going to start with Taurus. Okay the Torres to outlet. He is feminine Their birthdays are April twentieth through May Twentieth The taurus is a very sensual sign. I'm kind of looking forward to this. They are connected to your. I'm looking forward to your mysexy bit your sexy bit. They're connected to beauty through their senses is and are often skilled in cooking ceramics and woodworking. Really Yeah I do think nick is Nick Offerman on that list. He's a woodworker. The physical physical realm is important to a Taurus They can be mesmerizing to those around them through their skills and dance fashion and the beauty of their homes absolutely they. They are difficult to fight with as they avoid drama. Yes they are also sensual lovers. But I'll let you get into that. It was just listed here so I thought it was important because none of the other assigned out that in the adverse torres can struggle with being too caught up in physical beauty and material wealth. Yes she can also try to to conceal her heart in an attempt to maintain control a tourist in her truest form will realize that they have all they need within themselves Their interests include gardening dancing yoga and sensual arts. What are central arts? I signed me any up for granting with your boobs I think. Sign me up Yes okay so Torres. I personally don't know Taurus. I don't have a Taurus in my life. If.
"houdini dini" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink
"Knitting needle that was in her teeth so when she she would move her brilliant though later the assistant editor for the American magazine who was also on the panel. He ended up admitting adding that he helped fake her of effects in the Santa's because he was having an affair with her no he was having an affair with her all the guts in her dress. He was still like he was the one for me. That's what I like. He apparently while he was on the panel ways that people were still signing with her and not agreeing with Houdini in in ways that even Houdini was being stumped apparently the assistant editor on the panel icy was helping. What a jerk which Meena denies? But you know he said she so in Nineteen Twenty eight. The final nail in the coffin for Meena was that Walter began leaving echo plasma fingerprints during seances and the fingerprints did not match me in her husband's and they they're dentists eventually came forward. Wait let their dentists said that taught them a long time ago how to make fingerprints out of Through soft wax. No just leaving your finger there and then like peeling it off. And so he had given one of his own samples to to be like look like this is what that looks like. Apparently they kept it and investigators checked to see if it was like maybe a perfect match for Walter or if it really was Meena but how somehow she had like changed her fingerprints but eventually they did find out that it was their dentists sample that they had been using a mold and creating new fingerprints apprentice. Strange turn of events like the dentist is like. Here's my fingerprint. Yeah Sorry Baffling Mind Boggling Christina Boggling so the Boston society the ones who were against me. This was like their opportunity to publish the expose of a Lifetime and after that that Mya was officially no longer a legitimate medium and she was to this day. She's known as one of the most investigated and controversial mediums of the twentieth century which was all sparked by Houdini Dini hating her so fucking much and she has been described as quote the most ingenious persistent and fantastic complex of fraud in the history of psychic research. I mean fraud for sure in persistent for sure and fantastic all the above so one quick fun fact. Someone actually mentioned this on twitter not knowing I had it in my notes but but Houdini and doyle is actually a show on Fox. Oh yeah that got canceled. But it is a turn of the twentieth century series which follows Harry and Sir Arthur CONAN doyle as they joined forces with Scotland Yard to investigate unsolved inexplicable crimes. That's pretty fucking cool though. I mean I as soon as I found that out I was like well. Now I gotTa Watch it after hearing all the appliances you said. I think it's canceled. One season or two seasons is our shot win. If that didn't spark interest in you I don't know but anyway that is the story of Meena margery. Crandon the witch of Lime Street so the witch right. Yeah that's just her nickname. I guess she's just notice the witch. Wow that was was crazy. What Info but very juicy it was? Uc I was in for the ride. I mean that was like I was to reality show. It was one of those it was like a who done it and also like I used not that my notes wherever boring to me but these were not specifically like was excited to do my research I was like ooh Fuck Click. This is getting intrigued by your own story. Exactly like I got to know what happens to anyway there you go. I hope everyone enjoyed their little. All journeys through Houdini is that it's over. I wish I just ended so abruptly like nope she's not GonNa be the NBA officially figured it. Also Saudi died. I mean yes. I wish Houdini would got to see what happened. And that's what it. Yeah that's that's a little bit sad. I like the day that she was found out. Officially he must have been chuckling in the afterlife. Except he doesn't believe me afterlife so well yeah that's right. And apparently he never came back so never ever neither did his wife. Oh hello fresh. Beautiful Swiss Alps guest. That's what they say about my voice voice Yodel Yodel guys. Do you know that we love hellofresh. Are you can convince shocking information for you for those of you. Who Don't know hellofresh is very very the very wonderful? The recipes are so delicious. Break Out of your dinner. Vote with hellofresh. Twenty two seasonal chef curated recipes each week. There's something for everyone. So they have low calorie. They have vegetarian carrion. which is what I do and family friendly recipes if you have more than two people and they have more five star recipes than any other meal kits? So you'll always something hall of fame recipe sent to me. Man Man is on is I recently just had a beef tenderloin. 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"houdini dini" Discussed on The Valleycast
"Won't conversation about you Joe Russell Raptor Joe tear loss arapahoe. Jews put a front of VELOCE. I said Joe Lhasa Raptor Open your ears allosaurus stories roker allosaurus wrote roker. Al Roker night mixed with an allosaurus. Oh allosaurus Soroush telling. You reminded me so few dinosaurs that I know there are so many cool dinosaurs. I got. Maybe that'll help. If I pull up a list Okay Yeah let's pause on the Dyno's because you talk about this you'd probably like to do it throwing shit out. Oh we I probably shouldn't be thrown out funny names during this. You can't do it. Everyone funny okay. We'll see maybe it'll break the tension all right let me see. I don't know if I wanNA talk about what's happening. Knows that so you know about it is the thing that I I showed up at work yesterday. Oh I'm great and I was like. Oh Yeah I on Monday. I went to an animal hospital to to see my puppy Gill again From a previous marriage and he has been or had had cancer for awhile turning around around and I was Gonna go see him and because I'm not check my email and not getting got an update but I went in and was like. Hey here's C.. Gilligan and Gilligan had passed away the Mary sorry it's okay And it is. I guess it happens instantly and painlessly according to what the doctor said and what they found but horrible situation yet and so I've already been in a funk Which we Joan I talked about last week And I don't do you well with in with talking with with admitting if I am sad about stuff or having or in a low point And so this sort of compounded that and then and obviously it's just a weird tragic thing because he he was on the up and up and I had like a stroke and something like that and he he exited and so I kind of walked out and would ooh. I've just been sad pretty sad since but I'm okay. It's just if I if I think about it. You know then I start to get then I start to get emotional and I start art to cry and then grace has been great and she's been nothing but supportive about it but yeah it's sad. He's a he was a sweeping. And the reason I brought up one cathartic maybe and it could help other people but also so just like the all kind of wanted to. He's a great dog and I wanted to thank you for introducing me to Gilligan. Because I've got a lot of great memories about Gilligan. Yeah he's a he's a goofball yeah you'll see tall personality gray soroush there it is. I don't get it. Stead grows again. Then I the thought of one you have listed dinosaur. Gila Gang Kilo source he would he would appreciate CEO correct. So I. I got to see him in September which was really cool and and got to hang out and Scott Hang Dan which was nice and he was doing okay but getting older clearly. He's like twelve years old but yeah so it's just been sad and dogs are amazing and I love them very much general loss plus the LA. The dealing with the loss of pet is I'd surprising might be the word. Maybe it's not. It's surprisingly hard laying. I lost a a hamster when I was in like third grade in my my dad came to school to tell me. Houdini died today. She was buried in the front yard. Houdini Dini Yeah. We can all agree because she kept escaping from her cage. That's nice and was really good at magic to it's crazy like just like sleight of hand out you take cannonballs cannonballs as you could catch a bullet in her teeth and until crazy hamster but I remember just like walking around the playground that that day just bawling what's wrong. My Hamster died and let me so crazy. And but yeah. It's a hard thing to process and it was your first baby baby a I also just the the weird like Stephen. I talked about this a little bit but you go through a divorce and then there's still this link I mean I. I know it's obviously one thousand times more different people with children but it the pets can still be this symbolic connection. So it's just like this whole era That's that's gone but it's good. It's healthy it's part of life. It's just like such a weird and he was so well taken care of. I mean my I ex wife took incredibly good care of them was so just like I mean the time. I did get to see him. The last time was like he had all the nicest food. All the nicest whatever like he was his whole life was just being like Hannah alternate dot. He was like if you can imagine penalty wrap very top best one. Absolute and last uh-huh so yeah. It's a crazy weird just emotional. There's so many emotions tied in with with Gilligan. And people know who Gilligan is and and seeing him and he was part of my like Online presence back in the day but Yeah he's a good Gilligan. Reminded me of like like a like a nineteen forties goof-ball side care black and white television shows like Gilligan. Reminded me of Don knotts silly Zili. That just wanted to make everybody. Happy not the brightest but not the dumbest good Guy Jober at of dogs the the penalty Joe Dog incredibly intelligent. You just pick a joke. I'm an idiot I hate me I hate me I am I. There was a moment when we we were hanging out. And you're telling me about it we were talking about Gilligan the other day and when when you had found out and there was just this really sweet and really emotional moment where where you like reached into your jacket and he like pulled out this little like Baggie with like some meat in it and it was like this was for peel again I was bringing it to kill again. Yeah such a cool shave thing to be like this. I'm so sorry now that it was really emotional moment. Yeah you gave me very suck. Yeah but I love you buddy and we're here for you obviously and you know that's.
"houdini dini" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink
"Doesn't sound like a fever dream. This is like I'm sorry. No Houdini is Congress and he's trying to like stop the paranormal spirits. It's the one who told me about Abraham Lincoln's wife and how she had yes in the nineteen twenty thousand that wasn't in the nineteen twenties all but one of the early I think I we have a spiritualism. It was a Mary Todd Lincoln Center yes. She was huge on that because they're Saana died. And so when Lincoln was there was a lot of Sushi kind of fell into into unlike hired someone to live there instead. Right in-house seance orchestrator and it was really sad and during this Congress by the way it was house resolution. I think. Eighty nine eighty nine. If you're you're looking at the bill sixty nine six hundred eighty nine hundred ninety close. Houdini was the star witness and he obviously supported the bill because they were trying to make fortune telling illegal and rose also testified defied and told how she before they ever went to this committee meeting or this hearing. She came in a few days early like she normally does and she went undercover and talk to local. DC you see mediums and one of the more famous DC mediums. At the time her name was Jane Coats and Jane had Rosa as a client and didn't know it was rose. Thought it was someone else and told her that the bill would never pass and she wasn't worried about the hearing coming up in a few days because at least four of the senators is there were her clients and so she was outing the fact that people were trying to pass a bill but behind closed doors they were supporting mediums because they were going to them. Jane also said it wouldn't pass because quote Santa's are held at the White House with President coolidge social. The White House has always is fucking had sand since I guess so. Lincoln was big on that and I guess. The tradition carried out but at the time at this time coolidge was in the off was an office in the office just hanging out and but apparently like that was very hush. Josh like nobody knew about that so she ended up like outing President Coolidge as using seances to like talking to mediums for like political decision gain quote unquote. So that ended up helping Houdini for a second because the whole argument was like well. People can't just think think this isn't a big deal and people are just using mediums for fun but like clearly politicians are making like our national decisions like this these are our government and his handling really serious matters with seances that does explain a lot just saying but so it ended up like damning the government and President Coolidge. It got kind of dragged through the mud so Houdini ended up having to make like a public apology to President Coolidge. What sound like I was trying to explain? I had a friend last night. I tried explaining it to her and I was like so. Houdini publicly apologizes to President Coolidge for using a medium like. I don't know how to explain this. Let's see ya so sorry. Let's stop shop talk and like there was like heavy. Press on this New York. Times is covering this like crazy. There was a quote that today's session was unusually disorderly and came near winding up for a free for all fistfight because all these politicians were like now having to defend themselves and they felt back into a corner that they got called out for using. Mediums Chevron was in denial that they believe in stuff and they were for the bill but then they were also like there was proof that they anyway it got very messy so eventually actually Congress's clients to outlaw fortune. Telling because it was part of a religious practice so they were able to Kinda gave out right prior to his death. which I will get to? I'm not just getting over that. Prior to his death Houdini had actually said like you know what I am. Still Open minded to the thought that there could be a spiritualist out out there or like a real medium out there. I just haven't met them. Okay interesting twist yeah and he had actually set up twenty different codes with twenty twenty different friends so if he came back from the dead what it was right there would be at least multiple different ways that they could prove this. I think well it can be quite not trying to guess what happens to your story. So I'm sorry so. He ended up giving out multiple codes different people and so someone would be table to make contact with him if he died just so we know. In nineteen forty-five rose had actually come up. Come forward with an update saying the message had not gone through yet because is she was one of the people who got a code from him and she had not been able to make contact. That's amazing. I mean that's really incredible. Though we should come up with some codes. I guess we have enough just like hello fresh. That's the effort after his death. Rose continued investigating mediums for another twenty years and gave lectures on psychic fraud around the country. And she actually helped the Chicago Tribune and exposes on spiritualism called spook spies and those articles were featured in magazines such as look Popular Science Saturday. Evening Post all that good stuff the the light she was also in national magazines on TV and she testified in court cases in the future and she warns that for the future public. She warns that anytime any time a country is at war. The belief in spiritualism will rise because more frauds will come out to trick us or since spiritualism will be on the rise because people will WANNA make contact with people have passed based on more frauds are gonNA come out of the woodwork. So always be careful. And that's old alarming. Fun Fact. She lived at three ten West Twenty Fourth Street in Manhattan until well she died. I think she died in nineteen sixty eight and for her whole time after she retired she always slept with the lights on. Because after years of seances quote I got tired of dark. Groom's what a weird weird way too so I also do want to mention Kevin. Houdini death a little bit. I'm not going to talk specifically about how he died yet because all bring that up next week but his death because he'd give people specific codes for when he died. What what might happen or who they should expect a certain thing for him to say? During a seance and after his death his wife. BESS offered ten thousand dollars. Anyone who could help her contact her husband. That's the one I'm sorry. So nineteen twenty eight. Arthur Ford announced that he received a message from Houdini or his mom. Depending on the source that I was reading it was like Houdini or Houdini. As mom friendly cows got it and best asked for a seance was like okay. Well if you say that you found him like let's check this out and pay ten grand a life right the wife so bess a Would know if there was a real it was a real sense or not because Houdini already told her the phrase before he died so best met with Arthur and a group of spiritualists and during the Sans Houdini Dini allegedly came forward and Houdini said to bess quote Rosa Bell. Answer tell pray answer look tell answer answer tell and everyone was like what the fuck is going on Goose Kevin. I don't even know what that means so. Bess took off her wedding ring and show the engraved lyrics stop at in the ring that said Roosevelt Sweet Rosa Bell. I love you more than I can tell over over me. You cast a spell. I love you my sweet Roosevelt Ambassador even so that apparently that was a song that they used to sing together on stage. I am fucking shook dude. And that was their code. Apparently she agreed. She's like that was the code. Those words specifically the code and the Mega Goose Camera. Now in the right order order and everything I was his actual code that was the Holy Shit and apparently she had been told by Houdini. If that ever comes through it means believe I am losing losing my mind okay. So best even signed us like a sworn statement affirming that the the CEO was successful in legitimate and this gives spiritualist reasons to freak the fuck walk out there like the one man who was always a non believer has confirmed an afterlife for us and unfortunately years later best had to retract the statement because she found out that their code phrase had actually been leaked in one thousand nine hundred seven. Biographies must have found. I knew it was too good to be true so after that she officially was like fuck that she told all of her friends. That makes it so much worse slimy bastard. She told all her friends when I die. Don't don't even come looking for me if someone tells you they made contact with me in the afterlife. They're lying to you. I will not return so she was like fuck that with Houdini. Like we're not coming back effort and so for the next few years after that though she would still regularly hold a Halloween seance just to see if they could bring him back. I mean I don't think she ever expected anything but it was. Halloween and Halloween was the day he died. And so let's just see if anything comes out if not then we'll have fun. It's probably also nice so much to all his time right. Yeah Yeah. So her last seance though where she tried to make contact with him was in nineteen thirty six. Apparently it was covered with press. It was broadcast everywhere somewhere because she really this time. I'M GONNA find. Houdini does my one last shot. If I don't find him than than that's it I'm not gonNA dragging and Houdini never showed and so when she came up apparently a huge storm broke out that night only over the house will only in that area of town and nowhere else but it was like Super rains super lightning. Super Thunder apparently adjust over them was a massive rain cloud and that was the night that she gave up in. Never tried to make contact with with come again. And when they've asked her why she has not tried to reach out sense. She said quote because ten years long enough to wait for any man. Yeah and that's the story of. I Dunno Houdini kind of like I wanNA cry. I don't know why and I have goose Kim but like also also what a strong strong bad ass woman like. Wait a goddamn decade for him. I WANNA rap about it too is listening strangest feeling I've ever felt so that's supposed to be about rose Mecklenburg but I now now realized that I only talked about her for chunk of that so it wrote smack. That's me. It was just called Houdini part one for even a title this Houdini one in the end the title with things that make sense. Remember that right okay. Title this when Lin Manual listening next big break we have the secret here because you need it from podcast..
"houdini dini" Discussed on EconTalk
"Eventually but while he was getting up from the couch and before he was ready the student punched punched in the stomach as many as ten times and before Houdini finally held up his hand and said that will do and and then he fell back into the couch. ended the interview not abruptly but said Okay I need to go and he was in agonizing pain but he refused to go to the hospital so it's hard to understand why that sequence of life events is Andres later it almost two hundred years later still talked about and of course the other party or book which we probably won't talk about so much but there's a non trivial number of people in the world alive today who are not just. It's interesting guy. Yeah they're obsessed with them. They're like changed by. Yeah so this. This is really unusual now. One Way to think about this. I don't think it's correct. But it's interesting Chuck closer on this program talking about his book. But what if what if we're wrong and in that book there's a chapter which we discussed which is how is it that when you ask people what the great American novel it's Moby Dick Right that wasn't true in nineteen ten say I'm guessing but there were points in America. It wasn't until a certain point where that became the answer. What's the most famous or greatest painting of all time? The Mona Lisa really In eighteen fifty that was not true right And then he spends a fascinating amount of time wondering who will be considered. It's it's not. It doesn't list my recyling who will be considered the greatest rock and roll star right. When it's a short era? You know the the rock and roll era. Who Will it be chuck? Barry is it Bob Dylan is it who who will be the person that that people fixate on and you could argue and I think it's false in this case but you go. You could argue that one one more. Sorry who wrote the greatest marching band songs. All John Philip Sousa. He wasn't the only one but he's the only one that we remember. Yeah and so you could Dr Grow. Houdini is the Vaudevillians Street. Performer magician guy from the early part of the twentieth century. There were a thousand sure. But he's the on that people latched onto and now we've decided I don't think that's the case but that's one possibility. Sure sure but there are other answers. What would you say if you had to answer that question why is his fame mystique so lasting? Yeah and it's a great question. And I love the Claustrophobic Book Book On that chapter and and and totally buy into it but one thing that is so interesting about him being so famous is there have being other incredibly famous magician since his time or rat right and. That's what the you know because if somebody mentions David Copperfield. There's never been a magician. Whose had the success David Copperfield? David Copperfield billionaire David. Copperfield owns islands. I mean he's he's been seen by more people and paid by more than any magician ever and and then there are all these others David Blaine and Penn and teller who are incredibly famous an incredibly popular And yet Houdini even them have and then of course all of the people between you know he in his time You know there was a Guy Howard Thurston who was Sibley more popular than than Houdini as a magician jeopardy confident there isn't a single listener to this episode. Who could have been that's right? That's right and yet. In his time he was he was de the magician. You know and so so I think there's something more and what I what I believe is I believe it's a a wide series of events and breaks and things but I think the key is. I don't think anybody has ever been devoted to being famous as Harry dating. I think he wanted to be immortal and spent his all of his life and all of his money and all of his time to make that happen and and his devotion Russian team self and to his fame is lasting. Memory is it's it's odd and inspiring and and not particularly likable in there. Lots of things about it. Yeah reminds me a little bit of Of Ted Williams who allegedly said when he he was a young kid. I walk down the street right when people see me they go. There goes the greatest hitter who ever lived right and you could argue. It's not opening shot but you can actually make the case when you look at his loss. Four years he's is did the top follow. Yeah if not number one or two three at worst so he he had a dream he pursued it relentlessly. He was not a very likable person. Actually Houdini trouble with his family And yet there must have been dozens. Thousands of other young men who wanted that vision didn't make it so it's not enough to wish that it's true and it's it's really interesting. He's because ten Williams is a wonderful comparison in that in that desire to sort of reach this level of immortality that nobody else has. Yeah but tha and the other thing I would add. Is that both men in a time before the Internet before cable. TV somehow managed to be world famous in an incredible credible way this celebrity is this modern thing. It's not no no and in many ways those those people took it to a level that even today today you know today you can. You can put something on twitter and become pretty you can go viral and it was. You had to work go viral in those times but what I would say is this is a is a very worthwhile comparison with Ted Williams says Ted Williams relentlessly worked on his heading at the right. Nobody has ever worked on his craft the way that he did and Houdini worked on his craft too. But the difference is Ted Williams didn't relentlessly work on being promoted right after after he didn't he didn't have but he but he fought with reporters and he he did not he didn't he didn't plant stories of himself. Doing all these amazing things Dini dead. And and so who Dini's I didn't Houdini. He's relentlessness the way that he worked the media the way that he the way that he created these events sense that that are larger life. I think I don't know maybe P.T. Barnum I ever tried to do it that way so I think there's another thing I'm going to hold off on but I wanna I wanNA give one more possible theory that you talk about in the book I think very poetically. which is there's something about escaping? Yes and just talk about that. No that's that's that's right and and I think he wants. He realized that that was. That was a huge part of his success but but there is a there is I think universal sort of admiration for escape from whatever. It is like that moment. You feel like you're lost that moment. What you feel and personal you know where we want to escape from situations all the time But it's also global. I mean I think that one of the most exciting adding things in football is seeing a quarterback who looks like completely surrounded you know of course the most famous one most famous plays in Super Bowl. History is you know that the against the Patriots and giants and we don't WanNa talk we probably don't WanNa talk about are there but I i. I was afraid you might so. Let's just just by sometimes types quarterbacks escape some does quarterback escape but it is but it is thrilling in a in a different way from almost anything else and and and you know pitcher's getting out out of a bases loaded jam I mean there's there's some heroin tied to the railroad tracks. It's it's not Fisher Motif and and and he not only Sort of reset different level with it but it does amaze me that after all of these years we don't have another example of it. I mean there's so many you talk about this. As Ah the MOTIF who escaped more things than James Bond Ride James Bond constantly escape right shoulder and everything else and yet we don't they always pull the James Bond on. We pulled a Houdini. Houdini still you know and I think again. It's it's he understood people's feelings about it. He knew how to take it up to higher red higher and higher levels as he went and and he's still he's still the very essence of escape and our minds. Somebody gives you a different a different theory. I thought operating representing the book. which is I think as you say people think of him as a magician? It's not literally accurate. Already he did. There's something magical about what he did and he tried to perform magic right but clearly. He was a magician in the very innovative sense that when he was under a tarp chained manacled handcuffed in a milk can and came out. There's that's a lot like cut somebody in half and put put them back together so happened there. I can't understand and I'm amazed by right so the the idea I wanNA put forward is. He was the first performance. It's artist. He was doing performance art. What what we now call performance? Meaning he was putting himself. He made himself vulnerable in front of a large crowd. And and we recently talked about Marina Abramovich With Ryan Holiday. She had a I've forgotten the details is but she gave up a stranger a loaded gun and let that stranger point pointed out pointed at her. And that has I mean. That's so Houdini ass right. It's like yes I everyone in the audience thinks at least That this could end in death Obviously it's part of the appeal of of Nascar of car racing but death defying somehow and. I don't think it's in. My mind is not so much escape as it is death defying or mortality. He is so haunts us and to see someone come face to face with it and get away is exhilarating in in a way. No you're you're absolutely right. You know part of part of this book I took my daughters and my wife To see a show where where someone was escaping from water torture yourself and it was a different explain what that is by the way for people whose out the water torture cell was a complete Houdini invention and it's just A. It's actually much smaller than you would think it is. But it's a box where he was lifted up upside down by this by this kind of crane contraption and then lowered in upside down into this fully loaded water sal and and then it would go all the way down to the point where it locked up on the top and he would be under water submerged and you would see him under water submerged for a few seconds ten seconds fifteen seconds it. He's holding his breath and he's not moving. He's not doing anything thing. And then the Kirk would drop and and it would be a few minutes and people would be the audience freaking out and crying and losing their minds until Houdini Dini showed up and he would come out completely wet and perfectly healthy and all of the curtain comes down around the box. That's not. He doesn't is a backstage where somebody can lift about. No Fox's covered. Yes the boxes just cover that no one seems to go near him. That's right and he's handcuffed inside the handcuffed inside the box. It's yeah so he created this thing so we saw a version of this because people still do it. There's several people still do it. So we saw version of the water torture saw. That was much different because the whole thing was exposed. It was you. You can actually see the person trying to escape which was not out Dini did but I watched i. The the performance this was was was wonderful. And all that but I watch my daughters and how they were ripping the side of the chair and how scared they were. And how how you know. The clock is ticking. Picking just the way it was with Houdini. And and you're thinking about how long you can hold your breath. And and and they're panic. I mean absolute panic until the relief leaf when when he escapes and and I think that feeling is exactly the same. I don't think that that human feeling is has not changed at all so I I definitely agree with that..
"houdini dini" Discussed on Slate's The Gist
"Magician in he was not somebody who invented he's tricks. He was not somebody who thought that way very much but the idea of escape as a performance. That's all Houdini Dini really was he. It's very hard to know. We can't compare them to ruth. There are no records. He never out escaped the League for instance but would people who see him who you maybe someone who saw him. He died in his fifties. So maybe someone who saw one thousand nine hundred twenty. Some short lived to the eighties and they were great escape artists. And you know Ricky Jay or someone could then talk to him and the stories are passed down so what I'm trying to get at. What's actually good at escaping? As a technical thing he was a great showman. What's particularly impressive? I guess it was really impressive. I mean even people who were not particularly fans of Houdini or didn't think that what he was doing was magic because that was was a big thought at the time was that this is not really magic. This is like you know. He's like a daredevil right. He's like some some other kind of thing but really on down the line. They said actually seeing him perform was extraordinary and there were people that were that that saw him and and lived on for years and years. Orson Welles saw him what. He was very young and wasn't always super impressed with Houdini. He's style you know the the way he carried himself and that kind of thing but set the shows were remarkable remarkable and his is. It's hard to imagine being a better showman than Houdini was. I mean he had this masterful set of timing just the he knew you exactly when to come out exactly when to like do something that would make the crowd or crazy. He did have this sense of an audience and sense of of showmanship showmanship and of course unmatched sense of publicity. So he put this whole thing together and I think when you see it all one you know in one package I think it was is unlike anything else out there. So it's the life and afterlife genie but before we get to the afterlife. What all that means? Let's get to his death because it's taken on mythology and he was a person who courted mythology. How much of the mythology is real? Well it depends it depends on which for did he die on. Halloween did die in Halloween. That is not the analogy. He did die after getting hit in the stomach. That's not mythology. He did not die in the water torture cell which mythology so it depends on which version of the Houdini. He's death you've heard about. The quick version of his death is that he was already sick. At least that's the best guess. He was doing doing an interview with some college kids in Montreal and they were noticing how tired he looked him skin. He looked very pale. He was in pain. He had the lead back into a couch. He was very he was exhausted and he probably all right so this is where mythology begins and ends he probably at that point already had appendicitis and simply was is refusing to go to the doctor. Then a guy comes in you know who's also a college student and he says Houdini. I've always heard that you could withstand a punch in stomach from anyone that you challenge people to punch you in the stomach. There is no evidence at who the ever challenged antibody to punch him in the stomach but Houdini probably either one was too prideful to say anything about it or to have forgotten because he had a challenge everybody everything all of his life C. Guide probably challenged at some point. I probably the people hate me in the stomach and Houdini try to talk his way out of it and he was like. I don't want to worry about that. Why don't you he? He flexed his muscles. I feel how strong I am and try to. I use that I guess as a as a diversion and now the guy said No. I've I've heard that you do that. Houdini said Okay and he started to get up and the the guy punched him in the stomach as many as ten times e punched him three times in the stomach and then started wailing away on according to the witnesses that were there and bad until Houdini raised his hand and said okay that will do and that's where it stopped and Houdini would would always say that he had not flaxseed not gotten himself ready for the punch to the stomach regardless if he really had appendicitis at the time and the Guy Punched in the stomach ten times. I don't think it would have mattered. What he would don but after he gets punched in the stomach he's in agony absolute agony and so there are those who believe that the punches themselves caused the appendicitis? And that's actually how the doctors ruled went after he died but regardless he had a terrible fever chills and he kept refusing to go to the doctor doctor and the train left Montreal went to Detroit for him to perform. He went out on stage to perform. Even though doctors were pleading with him to go to the hospital. He went out performed at intermission. He collapsed would back on stage even after collapsing and then collapsed on the stage finally went to the Hospital Ed. They removed his appendix. But it was too late and he died five days later on Halloween. So that story is as weird convoluted as it is that is the actual true the story of how Harry. Houdini died that said for all the embracing of myths. Do you think you found out disinterred or discovered any bonafide defied new information. That has never been reported before there is there are a couple of things. It's Kinda cool because you know when you write a book like this you're writing and of course for a big audience and people who hopefully. Yeah that's right so because of that. Because you know you're trying to do that you you know you you. You're writing stuff that that people in the Houdini community have heard a million times right there like they call themselves. Something like trekkies. I called him. Houdini world nobody seemed to argue in that so I thought that was fine but yeah I didn't so so I I knew that but I also wanted people who are in the Houdini community to to kind of get something like all. I want my own discovery on this thing and I found a couple of the big one I think is how Houdini got his act how he got his first act. If it's something that was sort of reported before and I sort of fed offer that it was able to do quite a bit of research on it was able to flesh it out and and it's pretty cool because you really ended up buying his act from a washed up magician who was doing in a lot of the things that Houdini became famous for later he was doing them. You know in very very small like what they used to call die museums and in little tiny towns you know dotting the northeast and then at some point. Houdini bought his act and talk at that. Point is still took another ten years before he was able to to become Harry Houdini but when he did he really used. This guy's act in great detail so that was a fun. New addition to the Houdini Folders I guess Joe Poznansky is a multiple time sports writer of the Year award winner. He hosts a great podcast along with Michael. Shir creator of the good place called the podcast and his new book is the life and afterlife of Harry Houdini. Thanks a lot Joe. Thank you.
"houdini dini" Discussed on Jocko Podcast
"We go after about twenty minutes of flight to Cobra. Gunships came by us. One one on each side they were going to the L Z ahead of us and make a low slow past to try and draw fire from the enemy if they were there on the LDC there were two other Cobras Oprah's trailing just behind US ready to open fire on enemy positions. If we made a mistake we made the mistake of firing on the first two we had not anticipated the L L Z to be hot. So we're going to. We're not going to prep it. meaning that the gun ships would shoot. 'EM UP WE wanted to get in as unobtrusively as possible to the degree you can with two helicopters foregone ships and afford air controller flying around over the LV so the enemies GonNa know that your and they're gonna be coming back soon. The crew chief of crew chief gave me a thumbs up indicating the Elza was cold and we were going in. We began to lose altitude very quickly as we made our way toward the small clearing on the Ridge Line as we descended. The air became warmer and humid. We only turned onto the final final approach and began our descent. I could feel the helicopter begin to vibrate and my heart rate increase. We all scan the treeline vigorously for signs of the enemy. All of a sudden we were only two or three feet off the ground. The crew chief was motioning for us to get off. I jumped into the waist high grass and went down to a prone position. The team members quickly followed and the helicopter helicopters flew off to rendezvous point. The sound of them disappearing in the distance created a very lonely feeling. We moved quickly into the treeline and set up a small security former to let her eyes ears and nose adjust to the environment. This is an extremely important part of survival in the jungle. The sounds or lack of sounds of bugs birds and animals as well as the smells. Tell you what's going on. You must read these signs correctly if you are to survive after about fifteen minutes minutes we radio team okay. Moving East this meant we had not detected any signs of the enemy and it was okay to release the helicopters and gunships to return to base. We were really on our own now. Standard policy in our unit was that teams would always have at least two Americans with them when they were on the ground. This was a team. I've been training to operate on special missions without any Americans. They were still in training and I was the only American on the team. This added to the isolation effect. Did they have any English speakers. That were good enough to call for fire. The interpret the the other cutting. Did you ever did you guys cross train with those guys. So they'd knew how to call for fire with the interpreter. Some but not enough. Yeah I think when you say this is a a lonely isolating thing I think. That's the understatement of the century. Sometimes sometimes my my thoughts were just me. I'm I'm the one I have to worry about. If you're with me now I get. I have to make sure that I protect you have to make sure that I get you out. If you're hit I mean I I pick up these additional responsibilities. You know when I have other Americans with me but if it's just me and the team and I go down go down so even even the one the previous one where I went in along it was it was a unique feeling to know you know I was. I was the bright light team. A win person. Bright Light Team mm-hmm There were other times where I suggested that I might either going along on a mission or go in with one or two other people. Because I don't have a problem being alone out there. Some didn't do that but the burden. The responsibility of the other person is so heavy. And it's hard to get them out. I mean I would. That's why you have so many a missing in action from the teams. You can't get them. They get hit and you're being overrun. You can't get back to get them and they might still will be alive and you know everybody says no man left behind but you gotta decide you come to that decision point. Where do I leave Jaakko in save the team are get us all killed trying to get your body out and and you know my position? I'm not going to get everybody kill if I can get you out reasonably will but if I can't yeah and what I want you to do you know because I don't want you. I don't want you to get anybody killed trying to get my body. I know I'm GonNa leave me. Leave me I'll whatever doesn't matter anymore take care of the rest of the team back to this document from from here. Our plan called for us to work our way down the side of the mountains. Find the crash site. Recover the body. Destroy the second helicopter and move to an alternate landing zone for extraction altogether. It should be a very simple mission that should take about five to six hours. Then I could get started on my. We moved very cautiously down mystique wet mountainside with every step. You expected to hit a booby trap or have an ambush opened up on you win win on the ground. No one talked hand norm community signals. Were all the team. Communications we used silence was critical. Every foot placement was deliberate so as to avoid any noise a broken twig signal. The enemy of your approach. After about an hour we stopped for a break. We formed a small perimeter and some very thick brush and put out. Claymore mines aimed in four directions. I laid back McCormack sack and tried to relax while constantly looking for any movement and listening out for out of place sounds all of a sudden. I heard what seemed to be a very loud pop and everyone hugged the ground. Everyone except Wang my saying that right everyone except plank. He had brought a coke hoc with him against my very strict orders. If looks could kill he would have been dead. He may have just compromised the safety of the entire team and mission. I took the coke buried it and and then we moved out about thirty minutes later. We knew we were close to the crash site. The smell of a decaying body was very strong. You could see the change in the expressions on. Everyone's faces if the bad guys were going to get us. It would be around the crash site. We began to move more slowly and cautiously. Finally I could could see the sunlight coming up through the whole jungle canopy. We stopped just short of it and send out a two man RECON team. They returned without seeing any signs of the enemy. I knew they were out there. I just didn't know where I set up security around the crash site and stepped into the opening. There was no doubt in my mind that there would be mines and or booby traps in the wreckage. Not only would I have to watch for these but I would be standing in the open. As I recovered the body a perfect target for a sniper I could see large concentrations concentrations of flies toward the center of the wreckage upon careful observation. I saw what looked to be a bone sticking up. I cautiously made my way to the location. The bone while trying to maintain a low profile. Another part of our mission was to photograph everything. I did this quickly. And begin slowly on to slowly uncovered cover the remains of the body. Did you have someone assigned for look to look for booby traps or was it. Just every man was constantly on guard and on everybody was looking forward as we moved. Moved along but you know as I went out there was me. Watch where you put your feet. What's for wires? Watch for anything that you know. Look look abnormal. You know one thing that helped it had it had rained hard to all the the powder and materials like that from. I'm from the fire kind of washed away. So you had mostly pieces of metal bigger pieces of metal and things that you could see easier than and you could win. It was all covered with the you know the powder and stuff the crew chief had died face down in the middle of the wreckage and the intense heat of the burning aircraft had burned him into a small charred piece of meat. His legs were completely gone from the knees down. His arms were gone from the elbows. out and something. Aluminum had melted and burned through his head when I touched what was left of his skull. It disintegrated into white powder as I was trying to retrieve his torso from the wreckage. Could you broke in half at the lower back when did some of the liquid decay flew into my face some of it on my lips. I almost lost it. At this point. It was almost impossible to breathe. And just as it's hard not to throw up after a few minutes I was able to get it on a Poncho and move back into the woodland woodbine. I'd seen people burned to death before but never to this extent now that the body had been recovered we had to find the jungle penetrator and photograph it. The Aviation Unit did not. I believe the cable had broken where I'd said it had. They wanted photographic evidence before we could do this however someone had to be assigned to carry the body. No one wanted to you in fact they wanted to leave it behind. I became somewhat forceful and directed Wang to carry it. This was part of his punishment for the coke. It took only a few minutes is to find and photograph the jungle penetrator. Now it was time to move to the other helicotper blowing up was going to be the highlight of the mission for me. I always enjoyed admissions. When I got to use demolitions my only concern was where were the bad guys? We recovered the demolitions leftover for three days ago and carried them to the other crash site. I was really beginning to get the six cents feeling that you have just before everything breaks loose. Everything was too quiet. The helicopter was down in a small ravine a very undefendable place. Just as I communicated the decision to move the five team members to the top of the ravine bursts of AK47 fire from about three to four envy a began to hate all around us. The team returned fires quickly quickly as they moved to the top of the ravine gene since there were only a few of them. I decided to stay with the helicopter implant. The demolition charges the bad guys shooting in US turned out to be the the point team for a much larger group as I worked feverishly to pack forty pounds of C four under the appropriate places the helicopter the intensity fire increased. My hands hands. Were beginning to bleed and blood was dripping out of the ends of my fingers and my gloves bullets now ripping through the floor and the side of the aircraft. Some were even hitting the C.. Four as I packed it against the instrument panel fortune we see four requires a detonation device like a blasting cap to set it off. I felt like Houdini Dini inside a chest except instead of sorts coming through the sides. I had bullets as the battle intensified. I radioed for help. The fight was turning into the war and we needed gunships now. So there you are standing. The millis crashed helicopter trying to pack. Excuse for in to get that thing completely destroyed. Did you ever think when something like that. Hey I got a good idea. Once you guys just drop a bomb on this uh-huh and by the way and also when somebody tells me hey go search around for this Guy Jungle penetrator with a cable and take a picture of it. I would have had some issues issues with that. I had a lot of issues the whole thing. They should've told me to guy. was there. Start when the pilot of that aircraft should have said one of my guys missing you know he should never have been left there to start with. He never said there was another person. He said he had everybody he didn't that guy was was out there. We got him out at the same time we get everybody else out. Flow it for. The controversy is brewing around a lot. A lot of things between us and the aviation commander Over what's going on but now I'm packing you know forty pounds founds AC- four in the air and I've got a few hundred feet a debt cord to that was leftover. I got that big role. A debt court in there with breath with the C. Four They're shooting hitting it. You know the thing that bothers me about that is that means. It's coming close to me. Ah that would do now. And and you know I've got to blasting caps I'm thanking once I stick to blasting caps in the C.. Four if a bullet has one of those over but at some point you got to do that. So had to make a decision stick them in ignite diffuses and try to get out. How long were the fuses? Now they're about three or four minutes not long at all. Would the other guys up on the ridge line still. Yeah Yeah so you're just on US another I'm down in the dynamite solo mission. Yeah they I needed them up the here because of high.
"houdini dini" Discussed on Ridiculous History
"His mother passed away and Houdini was so deep in the grief of losing one of the most important people in his life that he completely stopped performing and he started despite you know the best arguments has rational mind construct in desperation nation to alleviate this grief he started seeking out the council people purporting to be spiritual mediums and not only did he encounter to his mind fraud after fraud after fraud but he could also see through it. You know what I mean. He would say okay this. This person has their hand under the table and they're tapping from the bottom of the table and pretending to be my dead mother for what a bit of cash. Yeah basically and I mean eleven stuff continues today with like cold readings a lot of these techniques that are have been maybe refined over time time. But there's definitely still a market Largely maybe television. I don't know well you know. The thing is people should be able to believe what they want and do what they want in less. They're hurting others while doing TV. Plus something different. They have the ability Jason. He added. Start watching now subscription required so Houdini after seeing. This is incredibly profoundly offended. He's also concerned that other people may be taken aching in other more credulous folks may be taken in by these sorts of Shenanigans. Enter rose. Mecklenburg McIntyre grew up in New York City during the first few decades of the nineteen. Hundreds like you said no as a teenager she did believe in spiritualism she caught on and was very popular popular was in the Zeitgeist Not The daily would daily Zeitgeist next on show Do check that out. But in Zeitgeist of the time and she she was introduced a Harry. Houdini probably as close as we can tell sometime in the early nineteen twenty s or late nineteen ten's and and when she first encountered Houdini she'd been working as a P.. I private detective for a number of years. Their initial meeting came about when she consulted the magician about one of her own investigations which involved the case of spirit fraud. Yeah he saw something thing in her and invited her to join his crack team of around twenty Undercover P is That he referred to as his secret service and they were all paid a salary and he Enlisted them to travel along well actually ahead of him on his touring during spots to kind of suss out the towns and and sniff out any of these spiritual frauds. That might be there waiting for them so they would assemble a brief for him There were find things like table tipping. That's when furniture appears to move on. Its own through some sort of ghostly telekinesis they would also find things called spirit trumpets this phenomenon which was supposed to magnify the ordinarily audible whispers of the dead Was Actually League ventriloquist and table. Tipping was kind of like Ouija board stuff controlled by the unconscious movements of participants and there was built breeding where psychic seemed to know what was inside a sealed envelope. The thing is the envelope was either sealed by plant or a plant was involved than sort of feeding them. The answers and this wasn't like this was dangerous work. I mean these were folks that were actually. This was their their stock in trade. They were making money In in these in these towns You know taking advantage of people it was sort of elaborate a form of huxterism. You know and they wouldn't take kindly to being debunked in this way. Being exposed. I mean is the equivalent of shutting down someone's livelihood obviously it was it was deserved but This was just a problem in and made Houdini rose quite a few Enemies and the thing is it wasn't just the the racketeers that had had a problem. With what Rosen. Houdini were doing. It was the the ones that actually believe this stuff Wholeheartedly as well and it would potentially cause riots in the streets between the The phony spiritualists The Anti spiritualists and also the the huckster 's right yeah Yeah and let me. Let's see pro spiritualist because as you said there were the true believers and then there were the con artists. Were more than willing to get those folks on their side ripe eight for for these riots. That's the thing this was a community. This was not a situation of isolated scam artist artis functioning alone and the fact. That was a community. Meant that Houdini. He's avengers would be eventually recognized. You could only bust so so many scams before a word got around. Look for this lady Rose Mecklenburg. She's after you and do the threat of recognition due to also as you said the very real sense of physical danger rose and her cohort and her colleagues started wearing wearing disguises. It got to the point. Where Mac and Burg's first stop in any new town was a department store and she didn't just by I you know whatever she was in the mood aware she would scope out the area? I this is impressive and she would say okay. Let me get a sense of the demographics ethics. What do the women in this town where you know what the schoolteachers where what the what did the widows where maybe what what do the The successful people wear what to the lower socioeconomic scale where and then she would figure out what was appropriate appropriate. But she didn't stop there she also aged herself with makeup. And I believe that at least a couple of times. She wore a fake hearing hearing aid. Isn't that right. Yes all kinds of props Which is pretty interesting considering the fakery involved in some of the spiritual You know hoaxes is that she was trying to debunk right. Absolutely there's a great book honor by a guy named Tony Wolf. The book is called Houdini Girl. Detective the real life ghostbusters busting adventures of rose. Mecklenburg and Wolf says that during her work for Houdini Mack. Burk would travel to these towns and attend as many any say on says as she could disguised as a devout believer. And I hope folks. I hope that you love these names. As much as I do. The terrible She would have. Aliases such as Francis. Rod F Rod F. R. A. U. D. Florence be rush or Alicia bunk. All is a bunk and after she attended Tunnel says she would come back and report everything. She learned Houdini and she would also describe What they were purporting to do and what she thought the tricks actually were then? Houdini would arrive in the same town. Maybe a week or two later for a show and boom boom boom he would bust the medium as a fraud. This became his routine until Harry. Houdini died on Halloween in nineteen. I'm twenty six in the most underwhelming way imaginable right. You picture a guy like this. Who put himself in these death defying situations all the time die in some elaborate way like falling from a building to his death drowning? In one of those glass dunk tank things. He would always try to escape from but ultimately die think he asked someone to punch him in the stomach when when he wasn't wasn't expecting it and and that ultimately is what caused his demise he yeah yeah like a ABC Flexing Nicholas. He put his belly too close to the fist. Was that even though Ben you know I just like the ignorance. Reference longtime listeners will know him found. Find that one but what what it appears to be more a ruptured appendix However according to multiple sources the circumstances mm stances around how he how he actually expired are still kind of mysterious and hazy? Today we do know that he definitely definitely died on Halloween. And all of this kind of Was the ground work for all of this was laid well before How Halloween of that year win win on October Eleventh He was injured with a piece of faulty equipment during that very The Chinese water torture cell stunt that he was so well known and for and then on to twenty seconds during a lecture actually in Montreal at McGill University He invited a young man. Dan named Gordon Whitehead to punch him in the stomach. Oh he didn't invite him. Jay Gordon Whitehead. Was One of those McGill students in the dressing room and Whitehead Whitehead asked Houdini as it. True that you can You know people can punch you however they want in your stomach and he. This was a publicly known thing about Houdini. Dini and then according to the witness guy named Sam Smell of its Houdini said the rumors were true. His like yeah. That's true and then without any warning. Gene Whitehead immediately hauled off and punched him multiple times like four or five really hard times in his stomach and he needed time to prepare to receive those punches because he was just sort of laying on a couch and so because he didn't prepare for it he was paying. He brushed off the incident but but then later that night the twenty second. He's started to experience stomach cramps and discomfort. His condition got worse and worse. He took a train to Detroit. Detroit on the train. He developed severe stomach pain. Cold sweats fatigues his doctor suspected appendicitis. And it's crazy occur history dot com the these kind of really mortal cases of appendicitis are super rare And there was a study. They cite that they found only a few dozen Over a twenty year period But Houdini diagnosis was pretty much accepted in his wife. Even received a life insurance policy a double indemnity life insurance payout for this accidental death because it was connected to the punching exactly yeah and so he did expire after The real terrible time on October thirty first which you know. Houdini is such a fascinating character. But he wasn't entirely tirelessly a villain and I wanNA make you know we wanna make sure that we're fair to Houdini and to mackin Berg until all their colleagues because they were Busting con artist. That's exactly what they were doing. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they were these Grim atheist or that they had no belief in the supernatural because wild people like Tony Wolf or other historians would say that Houdini AMAC mccumber probably didn't have any real belief in spiritualism. They were always careful to frame themselves as agnostics when they spoke about this public. Who was in one thousand nine hundred? Eighty one article for the Saturday Evening Post. Where where in rose Mac? And Berg said she wasn't really anti spiritualism spiritualism as much as Anti Charlatan and we have a quote from that article redo indeed I do not impugn spiritualism as a sect sect or as a sincere religious belief there are many intellectually honest person some mediums included who gets solace from a belief in contact with the after world Isn't what Prince calls it in the speech before Let's go crazy the after world. Pretty sure this correct. Oh my Gosh I love that I the only other place I've I've seen it referred to that I usually see the afterlife But link continue. That's not the quote that's just that's just talking about. This is me talking about press talking about press. Just shut your mouth My work this quote and this article concern only those mediums. Who deceive trusting person's is there any medium who can actually call up the spirits of the dead and put them into verbal communication with the living? I don't know there may be all I can testify to is that I have never met any which sounds fair right. One hundred percent fits fair. It's it's not it's not agro. It's not rude. It's just that I I don't know whether other exists. I just haven't found any problems. It's human nature to hate problems. But why is that after all problems albums inspire us to mend things. Ben Things make things better. That's why so many people work with. Ibm On everything from city. Traffic to ocean Russian plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety smart loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more.
"houdini dini" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX
"We'll take your stories and questions for them as well. Your ghost stories what time period less were these ghost stories from generally in this book mo- mostly they're from the Victorian age. And I'm I'm really glad you asked that question because I wanted to come back to a little bit. Your question about Sherlock, Holmes? This is the heyday this is the the zenith of an the idea that reason science can conquer the world. And at the same time, we have all these stories, and sort of how do they fit together how do those two impulses come together? And I think this is a fundamental question of why people like to read horror. I have my own personal theory, by the way, it should mention Lisa is the president of the horror Writers Association. I happen to be the treasurer. So we both given a lot of thought to the genre of horror writing. I have this kind of crackpot theory that horror we read horror fiction because it's practice. It's were hersal it it gives us a sense that we can control scary things because we can close the book, and and we're in charge. And I think that's vinyl. And I think that is a product of the Victorian age in that sense of oh, we're all powerful. We're reasoning humans, and we're the empire, and all those things were there any stories less that you rejected. Oh, sure, we, you know, some of the stories that are just so well known or it was just we rejected stories where they were just too many. For example, we had to limit ourselves to only one story by m r James who I think is and maybe at least agrees the finest writer of ghost stories ever. Yeah. And and there's just he's written so many wonderful stories to choose just one was painful. You would say he was probably the best ghost ghostwriter. Yep. Interesting. Why do they call those who helped books I'd life? I've spent a lot of authors. Ghostwriter? There unseen. They don't they don't get paid of. I dunno minor on my cover with me. Put them right there. Well, those are ghostwriters then no writers that that's true. That's a good point as told to. So. But you haven't played Ghostbusters yet for us. I kept expecting that to be the theme music. You never know. I save that for Halloween. So there you go. I wanted to get you on now. And they we were talking about. Well, let's say save them for Halloween, but I should now. I mean the books. How right. That's right comes to today. They timing is publication date. So this is it hot off the press. We said, you think my theory? But were is is crazy. You have your own ideas. I know about why people read or ghost stories, I think we're we're pretty well aligned on that. I agree. Almost completely with that. Lisa. Have you had a personal ghost story for yourself? I know you haven't seen a ghost. But have you had any personal episodes? Well, like I said I have participated in a number of paranormal investigations, I did want at the Stanley hotel in Colorado classic place. Exactly. I mean, it's so well known that some people call it the Disneyland for ghost. I didn't overnight investigation in the Queen Mary, which is another venue. That's supposed to be incredibly haunted. And I there were definitely strange things that happened. But I felt like a lot of it had to do with people who wanted to experience something I I said in a pitch black room in the basement of an outbuilding at the Stanley hotel and people around me were were practically screaming, something touched me. And I mean, I'm sitting right next to them. And I'm not experiencing this. I don't this credit anything at all that they said they just experienced something different than I did. And like I said, I would love to know what that was. Why does it seem though that the Victorian era? Seemed spookier than now. I think we were still kind of coming out of the dark ages the industrial revolution had only happened a short time before that. I think it was the close. Yeah. We have to also I mean, it's hard for us today to keep the perspective that even reading was a new thing for the great middle class of of Europe. People didn't have books they couldn't afford books. Reading with a new idea. Just started Praemium, right? Well, yeah. But I mean, it was basically an upper class thing to buy books and reading was taught in the upper class school, and there weren't public schools that were teaching reading so the growth of the reading public meant that stories could be shared in a different way. It wasn't just ballads. It wasn't just musical performances was people writing down their own experiences and sharing them. Now. Zine the magazines. We're almost bigger than the books. The new printing technologies came around in the second half of the nineteenth century made magazines humongous. Sleep popular, and those magazines needed lots and lots of content. So people were writing a lot of all kinds of stories to fill them up at especially ghost stories. And nowadays, of course, people are sharing ghost videos on their smartphones. And everything else they never had that during the Victorian era, obviously. But the technology has changed a lot of things I and I think, you know, the overt ghost story is we we're all little bit more cynical about it now, but we're not still quite ready to dismiss them. I did a panel at the LA times festival of books two ago with Paul Trimboli whose story called ghosts in goes to my head as a terrific novel about what seems to be sort of a real life exercises situation. And I trust that as an example of the absolutely current interest in ghost stories. And those kinds of psychological tales, the ghost stories of the Victorian era were were classic. But they also seem to have more science seances mediums and people like that didn't they sure? Well, the spiritualism movement began really in the middle of the nineteenth century with FOX sisters in in America table, wrapping and all that sort of thing and it spread like wildfire throughout America. And and your and so yes, there was a widespread interest in exactly what you said seances mediums attempts to communicate with the other side. I think that's diminished considerably. I'm not sure with any particularly good reason, except that seem to be a lot less people claiming to be mediums and and everything so fragmented now. Yeah. The it's interesting that that rise in spiritualism and mediums led to this sort of pseudoscientific side of it too. With the SP are the society for psychical research, which formed partly as a way to sort of debunk a lot of these mediums who we're making tremendous amounts of money. Some of them from the high society in London and other big cities and bring very gullible people, you I mean, there was a huge need to believe because we'd gone through you know, with the American civil war. We had the terrible wars in in Europe at the end of the nineteenth century. And then of course, we all wore one which left so many people bereft they desperately wanted to believe that they could connect to their loved ones who they lost. When I have a psychic on the program or a medium, and I find out obviously, they need a living. But the I really appreciate the ones that charge. Minimal dollars to people as opposed to those that charge a lot. I think it's I think that that tells me volumes of who they are. It's it's exposing fake mediums was a great ocupation of Conan Doyle himself, and Harry Houdini. Harry Houdini his friend Harry Houdini for a long time in the beginning of the nineteenth twentieth century because there were so many there were so many fakes preying on things and yet coming into his own wife, Jean yourself with medium in whom he believed who didn't Houdini did not Houdini. He he didn't believe but he wanted to he did want to. But he just couldn't believe in her. And he never found you never found the proof. He was looking for and when Conan Doyle's wife claimed to have channeled Houdini Dini's mother was when Houdini broke off his friendship with Conan Doyle. It was very sad that he he so wanted to believe in this. And yet it was there was some there was it was clear evidence in that something. There was something wrong. Gene. Lucky was his wife. Indeed. Yeah. I back in ninety got married in one thousand nine hundred seven Gs second time I can't even count back that far. Hollywood has done a pretty good job on ghosts. But it is also made things very very scary. Maybe scarier than it really is. What do you think less? I, you know, I actually think that real ghost stories are scarier than most of what comes out of Hollywood. Especially by the time you start adding in the CGI, and and the amped up music and so forth. I to me one of the scariest ghost movies is the entity from the eighties because that was based on a real case. And that they stuck a little bit more in that movie to the real reportings of what that Harding was like, and for that reason, I found that one to be much scarier than some of the ones where everything is flying around and tons of CGI the one of the movies. I thought that felt scary. It really wasn't. When you watch the whole movie, it's a good movie. But it seemed very scary was the lady in white you remember that one? All right. I mean, the the the way at the end she kind of floated in and all that. The little kid, and it just was a weird feeling some of the movies. I mean, it's interesting to see Hollywood stake. Unfortunately, of course, like most of Hollywood many of the movies are sort of what's the word exploitative. I mean, they go for the cheap and easy hor instead slow budget. Right. But instead of the sensitivity, and as we tried to say about some of these stories these stories are so interesting because they look at things from the perspective of the ghost or they look at the the strong, human emotions, not necessarily evil at all evil, the strong human emotions of contact between living and dead. A few movies have done that you look at even the Patrick Swayze ghost movie. I was it was a mostly serious attempt to look at that. You look at movies like the sixth sense. It's or things like that. And and they are fascinating because they're not traditional ghost movies. There's stories really about what it would be like to be a ghost and to have to sort of look through the dark glass at the human existence. What do you think of these stories of people who, you know, like a see the lady in white hitchhiking, and they pick her up and she wants to be dropped off at some corner. And it turns out to be a cemetery and she disappears. These are real stories. Absolutely. I I don't think those stories are made up. I think people have had those kinds of experiences. Sometimes what they think of is a ghost story is into go story at something else. But ghosts, you know, they work is kind of an explanation for some of these things, and maybe some of those are ghosts or spirits, or whatever you wanna call them. Taking ghost is kind of worldwide to it's interesting that I found variations of that in places like Malaysia where they have a legend of something called a Pontianak, which is a a woman that is by the side of the road, and we'll stop and you'll give her a ride, and it never turns out. Well, that's a good point too. We are with less Clinger. Lisa Morton, we're going to take calls next hour stories and definitely your questions. Of course, what are you working on next less? Well, I have a second volume of annotated lovecraft coming out this summer, and then I'm really excited later in the year, Neil Gaiman, and I have been working on the annotated edition of his wonderful American gods novel and that'll come out in the fall super Lisa. How about you? I'm gonna be doing another non fiction book that I can't discuss too much of yet. But it is related to go again. So I'm really excited. And you both live out in the Los Angeles area. Right. Yes. Ghosts send to be really old. There's tend to speak Spanish here. Would you call?.
"houdini dini" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"We'll take your stories and questions for them as well. Your ghost stories what time period less were these ghost stories from generally in this book, mostly they're from the Victorian age. And I'm I'm really glad you asked that question because I wanted to come back to a little bit. Your question about Sherlock, Holmes? This is the heyday this is the zenith of an the idea that reason science can conquer the world. And at the same time, we have all these stories and sort of how do they fit together? How did those two impulses come together? And I think this is a fundamental question of why people like to read horror. I have my own personal theory, by the way, it should mention Lisa is the president of the war Writers Association. I happen to be the treasurer. So we both given a lot of thought to the genre of horror writing. I have this kind of crackpot theory that horror we read horror fiction because it's practice. It's rehearsals. It gives us a sense that we can control scary things because we can close the book, and and we're in charge, and I think that's vital. And I think that is a product of the Victorian age in that sense of oh, we're all powerful. We're reasoning humans, and or the empire, and all those things were there any stories less that you rejected. Oh, sure, we, you know, some of the stories that are just so well known or it was just we rejected stories where they were just too many. For example, we had to limit ourselves to only one story by MR James who I think is. And maybe Lisa agrees the finest writer of ghost stories ever. Yeah. And you know, and there's just he's written so many wonderful stories to choose just one was painful. You would say he was probably the best ghostwriter. Yup. Interesting. Why do they call those who help books I've found a lot of authors. Ghostwriter? There unseen. They don't they don't get paid. I dunno minor on my cover with me. Put them right there. Well, those are ghostwriters then no writers that that's true. That's a good point as told to. So. But you haven't played Ghostbusters yet for us. I kept expecting that to be the female. Oh, you never know. I saved that for Halloween. So there you go. I wanted to get you on. Now, they we were talking about. Well, let's say save them for Halloween, but I should now. I mean the books out right? That's right. Comes up to today. The timing is publication date. So this is it hot off the press. We used to do you think my theory? But were is is crazy. You have your own ideas. I know about why people read or ghost stories, I think we're we're pretty well aligned on that. I agree. Almost completely with that. Lisa. Have you had a personal ghost story for yourself? I know you haven't seen a ghost. But have you had any personal episodes? Well, like I said I have participated in a number of paranormal investigations, I get one at the Stanley hotel in Colorado classic place. Exactly. I mean, it's so well known that some people call it the Disneyland for ghost. I did an overnight investigation in the Queen Mary, which is another venue that's incredibly haunted, and I there were definitely strange things that happened. But I felt like a lot of it had to do with people who wanted to experience something like I said in a pitch black room in the basement of an outbuilding at the Stanley hotel and people around me were were practically screaming, something touched me. And I mean, I'm sitting right next to them. And I'm not experiencing this. I don't just credit anything at all that they said they just experienced something different than I did. And like I said, I would love to know what that was. Why does it seem though that the big? Taurean era seemed spookier than now. I think we were still kind of coming out of the dark ages the industrial revolution had only happened a short time before that. I think it was the close. Yeah. We have also I mean, it's hard for us today to keep the perspective that even reading was a new thing for the great middle class of of Europe. People didn't have books that couldn't afford books. Reading with a new idea. They just started Praemium. Right, right. Well, yeah. But I mean, it was basically an upper-class thing to buy books and reading was taught in the upper class schools, and there weren't public schools that were teaching reading so the growth of the reading public meant that stories could be shared in a different way. It wasn't just ballads. It wasn't just musical performances. People writing down their own experiences and sharing them now. The magazines. We're almost bigger than the books. The new printing technologies that came around in the second half of the nineteenth century made magazines humongous Lee popular, and those magazines needed lots and lots of content. So people were writing a lot of all kinds of stories to fill them up. But especially ghost stories days, of course, people are sharing ghost videos on their smartphones. And everything else they never had that during the Victorian era, obviously. But the technology has changed a lot of things I think, you know, the overt ghost story is we we're all little bit more cynical about it now, but we're not still quite ready to dismiss them. I did a panel at the only times festival of books. So you're to go with Paul Trimboli whose story called ghosts in ghosts in my head as a terrific novel about what seems to be sort of a real life situation. And I just trust that as an example of. The absolutely current interest in ghost stories, and those kinds of psychological tales, the stories of the Victorian era were were classic. But they also seem to have more science essay on sizes and mediums and people like that didn't they sure? Well, the spiritualism movement began really in the middle of the nineteenth century with the FOX sisters in in America. Table wrapping and all that sort of thing and it spread like wildfire throughout America. And and your and so yes, there was a widespread interest in exactly what you said seances mediums attempts to communicate with the other side. I think that's diminished considerably. I'm not sure with any particularly good reason, except that seem to be a lot less people claiming to be mediums. And and everything so fragmented now. Yeah. It's interesting that that rise in spiritualism and mediums led to this sort of pseudoscientific side of it to DSP are the society for psychical research, which formed partly as a way to sort of debunk a lot of these mediums who we're making tremendous amounts of money. Some of them from the high society in London and other big cities and bring very gullible people, you I mean, there was a huge need to believe because we'd gone through you know, with the American civil war. We had the terrible wars in in Europe at the end of the nineteenth century. And then of course, we wore one which left so many people bereft they desperately wanted to believe that they could connect to their loved ones who they lost. When I have a psychic on the program or a medium, and I find out obviously, they need living. But the I really appreciate the ones that charge minimal dollars to people as opposed to those that charge a lot. I think it's I think that. That tells me volumes of who they are. It's exposing fake mediums was a great occupation of Conan Doyle himself, and Harry Houdini Dini, his friend Harry Houdini for a long time in the beginning of the nineteen at twentieth century because there were so many there were so many fake sprang on things and yet coming dwells on wife Jean. In whom he believed who didn't Houdini did not Houdini. He he didn't believe that he wanted to he did want to. But he just couldn't believe in her. And he never found. He never found the proof. He was looking for and went Conan Doyle's wife claimed to have channeled Houdini. He's mother was when Houdini broke off his friendship with Conan Doyle. It was very sad that that he so wanted to believe in this. And yet it was there was some there was it was clear evidence in seance that something there was something wrong. Gene. Lucky was his wife. Indeed. Yeah. Back in nineteen got married in one thousand nine hundred seven Gs second time I can't even come back that far. Hollywood has done a pretty good job on ghosts. But it is also made things very very scary. Maybe scarier than it really is. What do you think less? I, you know, I actually think that real ghost stories are scarier than most of what comes out of Hollywood. Especially by the time you start adding in the CGI, and and the amped up music and so forth. I to me one of the scariest ghost movies is the entity from eighties because that was based on a real case. And that they stuck a little bit more in that movie to the real reportings of what that was like. And for that reason, I found that wanted to be much scarier than some of the ones where everything is flying around and tons of CGI the one of the movies. I thought that felt scary. It really wasn't. When you watch the whole movie. It's a good movie. But it seemed very scary was the lady in white you. Remember that one? Right. I mean the. The w- the way at the end she kinda floated in and all that she her little kid, and it was a weird feeling some of the movies. I mean, it's interesting to see Hollywood stick. Unfortunately, of course, like most of Hollywood many of the movies are sort of what's the word exploitative. I mean, they go for the cheap and easy or instead as low budget, right? But instead of the sensitivity, and and as we trying to say about some of these stories these stories are so interesting because they look at things from the perspective of the ghost or they look at the the strong, human emotions, not necessarily evil at all evil, the strong human emotions of contact between living and dead. A few movies have done that you look at even the Patrick Swayze ghost movie. I was it was a mostly serious attempt to look at that. You look at movies like six cents or things like. That they are fascinating because they're not traditional ghost movies. Their stories really about what it would be like to be a ghost and to have to sort of look through the dark glass at human existence. What do you think of these stories of people who, you know, like a see the lady in white hitchhiking, and they pick her up and she wants to be able to dropped off at some corner. And it turns out to be a cemetery and she disappears. These are real stories. Absolutely. I I don't think those stories are made up. I think people have had those kinds of experiences. Sometimes what they think of is a ghost story is into go story at something else. But ghosts, you know, they work is kind of an explanation for some of these things, and maybe some of those ghosts or spirits, or whatever you wanna call them. Ghost is kind of worldwide to it's interesting that I found variations of that in places like Malaysia where they have a legend of something called Pontianak, which is a a woman that is by the side of the road, and we'll stop and you'll give her a ride, and it never turns out. Well, that's a good point too..
"houdini dini" Discussed on Z100
"Six minutes after five on your Monday morning. Good morning rise and shine, ladies and gentlemen. Let's do it. Let's start this hellish of a work week. I mean, do we really know what you mean? How's work? No. But no one really wants to go to work. No one really wants to be there. Let me I get one thing straight. I've never heard a DJ in my life going from talking about the constitution to Drake. What in one sentence? Listen. I mean, you have to pay you know, I've never heard it before. So I give credit to you. Greg. For being able to get the constitution. I rake when I came in less than a brat when I came in this morning, I was going over, you know, what's the days of the week. What's going on day Tuesday? Of course, I look at anniversaries birthdays, all those things get my show prep together. And then it dawned on me that when I want to go through the days today is international country dance said, I then it said locating old friend day Monte Cristo sandwich day, and as I'm writing down on laughing. I'm going this is exactly why Garrett hates the stuff. Then it goes apple dumpling day. I'm like, well, that's kinda nice. And then it's a Constitution Day. And it's kind of odd Constitution Day. Let me read further and it says today seventeen eighty seven is the the constitution was signed. There you go. How about that? And I said, it's pretty amazing. How about that? And we need to we need to pay respect to the constitution. And make sure we tell everybody what today is and why it's so special because without the constitution. What would we have? We wouldn't be able to have songs like in my feelings by Drake. What have you to have that? Then you wouldn't have anything to talk about to go in. To it. Exactly. You wouldn't have Greg t yelling screaming on the radio. You wouldn't have that you need the constitution without the constitution. We would have the five AM pre morning show. We wouldn't have the Elvis Duran morning show to look forward to at six AM without the constitution. We would but it'd be a different form of it. True. True. Well, maybe maybe would be, but we wouldn't have that. So how could you not kick off today without paying respect to the constitution? God bless America. Bless america. God bless America. There you go. How about that? All right, anyway, I don't ever very many news headlines from the day. How was your weekend? Yeah. I hung out with some friends Staten Island and went to went to this pizza. New new pizza place that I found in jersey. It's called Houdini pizza. There's probably some of the best pizza. It's fan would New Jersey. But I'm sure there's a few places outside of the fan would location. But some of the probably the best pizza in jersey that I found since being from New York and better than to Nino's, bro. The. Oh, yeah. Please. You're you're emotionally connected to Dino's better than crispy pizza in old bridge from Brooklyn. Some of the best piece is found purse really putting it up there with the heavy hitters. You don't have the best palette for tasteless this. Are you kidding me? Crispy pizza and old bridge. They're based out of Brooklyn phenomenal. Dino's you can't go wrong. Dino's because you get free pizza. Not true come on. Did he does his legendary brow? Legendary you're saying that Houdini. I'm saying for me personally grew up on on new your rights. Okay. You not so much. I get you. I get you. I I would say I know a better slice of pizza. Then you personally, great t police Staten Island doesn't mean that you know, better pizza. I ate nothing but New York pizza growing up. So I knew New York pizza better than you not. I'm not saying anyone else in the world. You specifically Greg t man really wish there was a challenge. Who who puts his ginger on his sushi and eats it that way. That don't criticize my taste buds are loving that. That's supposed to clean the taste buds. But that's what I'm saying. All right. You're not a man of taste food. But you don't know good taste. There's no way that you could possibly say just growing up in Staten Island. They, you know, pizza better than me just because you grew up at Staten Island that that's that's that's terrible. That you say how much New York pizza? Have you had? I've had my share. Well, how much do you pizza? Do you really need? I've had my share since I've been here since I've been walking around New York since I grew up in and left New Jersey a little bit. I've had my share demand. That would be the man who hates coming to New York City during the week great pizza from Long Island, great pizza from New York repeats from jersey. You can have great peace everywhere. You're telling me that just because you grew up in Staten Island. They, you know, pizza better than me. Then you specifically great teak. All right. Forget about Houdini. Tell me about Houdini message set me off today. I want to hear about Houdini. No fan would personally it was probably some of the best. And then you got offended because you get your pizza from specific locations and don't expand your taste buds. It's fine. I think Houdini in fan would for me was probably some of the best pizza in jersey. I've ever had. I swear listen to my sister lives up in Scotch Plains. All right, which is right in that area. So I'm next to my visit her I'm gonna make sure to check it out. I'm actually I am literally pen to paper. I'm writing it down right in front of right next to Constitution Day Houdini. How useful Houdini? Dini Houdini pizza. Gotcha. In San would. I am writing it down as we speak live on the radio. I will try it. Next time. I go to see my sister up in that area. I'm trying fan white-owned four years. No, no, no. I see your pretty often either. She comes to me or I go to her. I think I actually oh her a visit. So next time. I see I see Michelle up in Scotch Plains. Then I'm gonna go h H O U H O U D, Diana pizza. All right. I'm going to check it out. I really I love how you're so offended. I'm not offended. I just want to. Offended. I've never heard of Houdini pizza. I'm gonna check it. That's the thing. That's the thing. That scares you. When you don't know anything I'm going to find out. I really want it. I'm gonna see I wanna see if it's all that. I really wanna so after my offensive weekend towards you. What did you what did you do? You know, what do we do this weekend? And what did we do? Oh, you know, so I had a wedding. I had a wedding. But we could not have any nicotine. I couldn't have any nicotine starting Friday starting Saturday morning. So no vaping. No cigars the entire weekend. So it was difficult, but I made it through normal people. Do it for me. I realized that I have an addictive, gene. And then I really want these things, but I made it through it was difficult, but I did Friday and went to a wedding Friday's wedding. And I swear to you, bro. It was so good. I very seldom do I come back and say how good a wedding is. I very seldom because I'm not a fan of weddings follow up question from the peanut gallery. What did you take the microphone? I do. Take your. I was asked to I was asked to get on the microphone also say, no, I tried to say now I sat bride grooms day. I sat by myself at this table, right? You should have sat on your hands. Listen, I'm telling you I had nothing to do with this. I was I was I was hanging out with some friends of mine that I knew we were just sitting there chilling at the wedding wedding was going great. And then dessert was just about to be served. It wasn't served yet. So right now, the whole party was bumping. And the mother of the groom came over to me and said, I want you to get on the microphone and do something say Hello, do whatever you do. I'm not a DJ like that. That's not what I do. And and she was like, oh, please. That's when you go into your jacket pocket, and you pull out the Mike. I know you is no you said and then my own wife. Trish was like come on go up, and then the whole table started yelling. Yeah. Greg everybody shrinking peer pressure, and they were all like. Craig Craig, and I'm like come on man rent a wedding. This is the groom and the bride and up, please. So anyway, the the best where you lick your fingers and push your eyebrows back and you take the microphone. Man. The mother of the groom you sound like you didn't want to do drag me up off the dance floor on must have been a linebacker. Then. Her son was dancing up by the deejay booth with all of his groomsmen everything and he saw me walk in. And then he he grandma shoulder, and he goes are you going to go on the Mike? And I said your mom's making me, and then he was like, I love his exciting. I love how this experience was more exciting than what the wedding sounds like of of the bride and groom finally get together after being beaten being a couple. I'm telling you man, the wedding was great at when they did they did the wedding, then they had the night by that travel less travel. And then after they said, I do this one of the I forget what song was by Zac Brown came on. And like everybody was singing the Zac Brown song. And you know, me I mean, I love Zac Brown. I just forget the actual song. I heard this on the, but that came on it was a great wedding. It really was enough about the wedding. It was good. But you on the microphone even better. I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to get on. Oh is that Gandhi Gandhi? Just walked in. Are you so excited today Gandhi? Our new Colo starts today. I think I just saw glimpse of her walk by. And you know, we're we're sitting in this fishbowl, you know, ceiling forty ceiling windows. I thought I saw I just saw walk by look up look at that windows that right there. Yes. She is. Wow. Ladies and gentlemen. Never. Also, this were you more excited to take the microphone at the wedding Gandhi bomb? Probably more exciting Gandhi. I I'm telling you man, as much as you think I really wanted to get on the bike ISIS weird to you man than I sat there by myself, not I was minding my own business. When the mother of the groom came in specifically asked for me to get up, by the way, the DJ was so excited when I went up there. I see she said DJ Greg day from see what Audrey and he was like. So he handed me the Mike, and he goes do to take you do whatever you want like you didn't even care because he's getting paid. That's not what a wise, man. I swear it was all in all. It was Good Friday was great Saturday. We didn't really do much I closed the pool. And then yesterday ended on a highlight my daughter's team holmdale nj ex we lost a wall to wall. So that was that was his thing. So we lost three to one. But the lone goal my daughter. Yes. So we did lose three two one. It was the best worst loss. We had. There you go and they get trophies no regular season game. We're only one of the season. We just we won the tournament. But now they're actual season. Started our own one happens. Putting in you buy ice cream for everyone. I did I did buy did go to the ice cream. And I bought I bought everybody like bomb pops and stuff. I love the girls. I love the team. I'm I'm a I'm a great good soccer that check traffic. Vital things started here on your Monday morning enough about me and about Garrett. Let's headlines some giants and jets. We gotta talk a lot of accident.
"houdini dini" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Busters factual history is there's a phillips h lord production sirens those are the police coming in here to get you at least call the police isn't there are so she's right over here is officer here i take her away please take care and take your phone away too so she can't call me to bail her out well if you take my phone away you will have no more social media for this show problem for i know nothing nothing i know we did post a facebook live video so if you're able to go to facebook at wgn radio theatre check it out you can hear a little bit about kelly cruises isn't at the same time you can check out our new permanent studios here on the eighteenth floor you know we didn't even know studio today now we thought the studio we were in was the permanent much we know we walked in and said now you're in the studio from me but i don't expect it from you well this is the studio with the view i guess this is a room with a view so we'll check that out yeah i mean look at you can see navy pier and see me right over here that's a few i'm looking at the look at that right over there the what is that building purple ball see that huge thing up there c that right next to the marietta what your child you are a child you know that lisa this studio is amazing it's much bigger than the other one i think to isn't it there's more room it's similar and sante is to my left instead of i mean to my right instead of right in front of me looking forward but she's over there yeah we'll get there anyway that was gangbusters from september twenty ninth nineteen forty five the case of john k gyles escape artists he says scape all the time and like houdini dini and they kept having to put him in there and just a a little bit we're going to tune in to the phil harris alice faye show that's going to be a lot of fun one of the funniest shows of the golden age of radio coming your way but i these words check it out i found five bucks in these genes that's nothing i found at twenty in my old code oh yeah i found fifty dollars in my old free it's had an old working fridge i didn't eat so comet took it away com ed took it.
"houdini dini" Discussed on Are You Hearing This!
"It. Do. I really want to see another Joe. Energy? I told my trays trash. Okay. We got time for one more and it's going to be a gem from Jego Houdini. Dini Jaggard Dini sorry, bro. I want to see now this hour been remade. Hold on. I'm saying once I once I get the computer is messing up. Good. You better do work. Disgusting. Move has already been remade remake remake it, a ghee. What is it now? Not the movie. We make this move again when it came up with TV show the long range. Oh yeah. The law ranger, yeah. So you didn't like the Johnny Depp version. Great, scrape, garbage is great field. Okay. Jas, Greg, they did not do a good job. Jonah Dev is really, really. You had Johnny dill. Who did you want? Did you want like Jackie Chan? What's gotta be total? No. So somebody old and I don't know. Good Crotty I while it's time to Miami or the Paris, Karen be I'm not a big fan of pairs of care. The Carribean. Okay. He tried to brain that element to long range. Yeah. And you can't tell me nothing journey deaf has some directing or producing or writing in move. Right. It had to be the guy they had to play long ranger, hey, man. I know I can be you right now to burger joint Newton near you. Yeah. Well, the only reason he got that role. He's an acting is because he was in that movie the social network. That was about Facebook and he played twins in that movie, and it was, I think that was like his first role and play. Yeah, it was so disappointed because he's not a good actor. It is what they were trying to go with. Yeah, but they fail miserably how you do something like that to the lone ranger man, the lone ranger, the long rage. Okay. My little ranger Zorro. I have no idea. Badder. Yeah, with the maze. Hope I remember seeing a long range of I right and high all silver. That's a good point. But think about how many things are knockoffs of other things that you just change a little bit. 'cause you got is called Volterra. His kinda save old Chinese transformers where Power Rangers is not votre right, and China's a knock off of transformers. I don't know about and transformers is a knock off of something else. Yeah. So I wonder was the reason why I to say voltron. Here's a problem being Americans is everything that we see in media is probably a rip off from something overseas. God, no, a couple of movies, right? Like, oh boy. Oh, yeah. Jaguar chains? Yeah, a lot. They got a lot of most of me so I won't long raise remade, man, please. Okay. Keep that we'll keep it. Were injured. So I'm gonna. I'm probably just going to trash it because I didn't like the original show. Didn't like that movie the risen the show. Now. I love losers stuff. When growing up I of Lucy Ricky yoga yoga's landed to dove. Got a gotta, go. So. The fall. Hanging back. Is my man is your manhood. Women. Wednesday. Just keep them satisfied. So that was scissor with her hit song off of control called the weekend. We tell you what that song's about. That song is about Ciza. Pleasure in some man on the weekend when she's basically telling other girl that you're the nine to five during the week, and I'm the weekend. Dang, that's hard. How do you live with yourself? Thank you living pretty decently. I guess you just woman again. That's my beat. Thanks for using available on the weekends. My number is one. Eight hundred. Don't look for nobody. No more. That's one eight hundred don't look for nobody. No more says the thank you for using my beat. I know you're using it illegal. I just can't let it go type beat. You gotta. You gotta mitt. Yeah, I give it Taibbi. I mean, you can dance that probably. Oh, lots of stuff on the weekend. I can't believe you bring this, bring this junk on the show. Lovie. We don't promote infidelity in marriage. She's talking, whoever she's with is with somebody else. Infidelity look. Gonna do about it should be ashamed of yourself. You'll get the week. Thanks for listening, a new par drops every Monday and Friday you can subscribe on. I tunes and be sure to leave us an honest, five star review out more at. Are you here in this pot dot com?
"houdini dini" Discussed on Omnibus
"What is the fourth and that's the funny thing you know that's probably how he came off like the line between mathematical genius and kook is apparently very thin and i don't think any of the people the train station today have actually grasp some higher level of math and and computers can't do but in that day it was possible but this was also the era of for knowledge e and eugenics i mean there were a thousand scientists quote unquote with a theory that described the universe and described the the way that the i guess the fabric of the world is his laid out like how how was hinting distinguished from his his crank peers yeah you know who loved hinton and his work was on like madam blood that ski you know who that is the fee also fists oh wow there were some branches of her school of a cult science or whatever that loved hinton they read all his pamphlets and they were they loved it out it was that if they thought he was a coop like they were like a sweet is a fourth an engine that's clearly the spirit realm you know this all makes sense he can picture this fourth image and so can we that's that's the occult spaces that that are rituals reach moore's as is wise well so so did a houdini try to debunk him i wonder who dini ever meant met hinton boy that's some fan fake right there in kenner fired a baseball right into houdini dini's got a seventy miles an hour and kill the guy let's let's hear from our friends and we'll be right back.
"houdini dini" Discussed on KMOX News Radio 1120
"Minute with me and he would get everybody in the audience to hold their breath a timer would start and he would go submergence alvik everybody tries to hold their breath thirty seconds go by they learn its heart he comes up after a minute they kick the can and and now it's brilliant because what does he done he hasn't shown you that what he's doing is impossible like most magicians shown you that what he's doing difficult and real and that is a way that everybody ram even if there were three thousand people in the crowd could understand and identify on a very intimate level the real danger and he was attempt here again is magician joshua j with the details on a how exactly the milk can allusion worked so this is how the illusion work he would say after a moment of meditation i will now hold my breath lifelock and he would release of march six assistance would place the top on the can and then lock the six padlocks on the side a small curtain was placed around at this this to protect the secret of his illusion look remains a secret to this day and then the clock with start tick after a minute almost everybody in the audience couldn't all their breath after two minutes the skeptics were scare at the three minute mark the theatre manager would come out with an ax in his hand looking very confusing because it never happened before and of course it happened every night the same exact way this is who dini's brilliant with orchestrating a play and playing with your emotions at the four minute mark everybody in the audience with shouting mercy mercy for mr houdini and just as he was about to break open that can for that acts houdini would emerge from behind the curtain soaking wet thunderous applause they love then whisked away to hurt with still law it was as if melted through the side not just because this was an allusion doesn't mean wasn't true dangerous joshua j describes one event were constant imitators everything a houdini imitate are named nestor attempted the milk can't escape thanks thirty four years after houdini dini's death what's your nest that didn't know is that has crew was unloading the can they drafted and we don't know how houdini did it but we do know that your nest the did it with a trap door lid a lead that even when locks you could escape through when they dented the can they stopped a.