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"hotez" Discussed on Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

03:42 min | 9 months ago

"hotez" Discussed on Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

"Piece of piece of resistance among among conservative groups that somehow we have to find a way to reach in and i'm trying to reach out to conservative colleagues as much as possible and go on their podcasts and some of said yes others of said no and and So if newsmax calls. I'm the first there and i get a lot of that on twitter. What are you doing now. You have to have all have to put up a picture in the green room daniel in the lines than this kind of scotland as they look. You know we've got to do this if otherwise and so figuring out a way to come to together as a country. When the country's never been so divided i think that's apia challenging. Well dr peter hotels you give me hope. Thank you so much for all that you do. And for being a part of podcast and really. You're now part of the fabric of this country and the health of this country. So thank you thanks for all your advocacy in.

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"hotez" Discussed on Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

08:19 min | 9 months ago

"hotez" Discussed on Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

"You know if you did that when we jumped we. We don't patent it. No patents. I mean will is available for other giving it away in fact. We're probably spending money to help. Countries with the technology. Transfer to make it happen. Well coming back to the united states. We've seen a huge. You touched on this a little bit of polis politicisation of medicine and science. And i don't know about you but it feels like the dark ages again. And i know a lot of hate has been directed at you from people who certainly never went to medical school but think that they know better show. My question is how do we reach those people to get them to take measures to protect themselves and the rest of us. Yeah it's it's this tribalism right. It's this you know. Somehow the the first of us far right wing extremism but it's now cutting across a good segment of the gop. That that that that allegiance to the party. Part of that is not protecting yourself by getting vaccinated. Which is you know. Obviously i mean it's obviously so self-defeating and so trying to yank the anti-science out of the out of the gop out of the far right and but it's tough. You know the other thing that's happening. Not only anti vaccine attitudes aggression against scientists. I mean obviously. They target. Tony tony foul ci. And but they go after me. You know they say the army a patriots is going to hunt me down in this kind of stuff and i'm like well. Why do you need arbia patriots. Just me and annan rachel and the cat i would think one or two patriots is more enough. I'm joking but it's it's it's crazy right now. I mean look you. Just look at the news. There have been violent protests at school board meetings. And you know outside. Outside children's hospitals fighting against mask mandate it is so so disheartening. It is so heartbreaking to see we have to get the some of the members of the us congress who says such awful things somehow. We need to get them on board on and a high you do that And and the conservative news outlets. We've you know it's you know i think. The daytime anchors places like fox or fine. I was going on them up until recently. But it's the nighttime guys you know j- us say the most outrageous things people believe in people are trusting of it and people are saying advertising people are buying absolutely advertise absolutely on on those channels which is another thing that i think that we need to sort of dip into try to chip away at that at that that power for that might be listening to us right now to and this might seem like a really silly thing to ask but can you just explain to people who don't believe in the science of masks how and why they work and if people should actually still be wearing them. Yeah i mean this. This virus is contracted by aerosol inhalation. In addition to some droplet contact and and one of the ways and you're shedding virus from your if you're unvaccinated you're shedding enormous amounts of virus in your nose and mouth and when you speak you know these micropolis aerosols are coming out of your mouth and nose but if you cover it up with a mask you'll you'll dramatically reduce the amount of virus you spread in the environment. And if you're uninfected person that you're standing with in the same room as has a mask that will decrease the likelihood they'll acquire the virus and those two together both the shedder and the adopter of the virus. If they're both masks the rate of transmission goes exponentially down dramatically diamond. And that's why it works and they do work and that's why we need kids masks in the classroom. Look nobody likes in. No one's thrilled by it. But you know if if that's what is required to prevent kids from getting sick that's what you need to do in this delta variant is so much more transmissible from anything we've seen before it's three to four times more transmissible than the original variant so and even the the uk variant which was also pretty transmissible. So what it means if you want to keep our kids. Doing in person classrooms. It means that everybody in that school needs to have a mask on. Maybe the exception. Some of the special needs kids can't do it on and everyone over the age of twelve has to be vaccinated. That's just the way it has to be so you know when you've got this co- this level of transmission going on it. You can't do that many things. well right. there's there's no margin for error and so if if the number one priority is to do in person classes you can do it but it has to be your number one priority means everybody masked everyone who's vaccines eligible vaccinated and and then you might be able to get through it. But i think places like vermont where they're doing things like that or massachusetts up in the northeast. It'll work but here in the south where there's this defiance and even In public officials are are discrediting masks and things like that. Then we're already seeing what's happening right. I mean schools are opening. You know everyone is stamping their feet. Saying we're going to do in person classes and but no masks were not going to mandate vaccines and guess what within a week. Everybody gets sick and then they have to go back to virtual days. My kids are in school for two days and there was a positive test. That came back Luckily it was a false positive but two days and it was. It was mashed hard when you've got this delta variant. So that's why. I want to get to some questions from the audience because there's some really great questions and thank you to everyone who's joining us today. Daniel asks do. We need to take the booster from the same manufacturer as our original shot. Probably in the end the reason is although it may well it may work. There's not a lot of data for so if you've gotten the two doses of pfizer get boosted with fis earn if you got two doses of madeira kept boosted with madera. Now there's some data that just came out yesterday today about the j. j. vaccine can dose of the jj vaccine. So i think that'll be forthcoming. And then i get asked. Well what about if i got j. and j. Should i get what if i want to get. Switched to the pfizer or moderna and the only pro- may work the only problem is there's not a lot of data for. There's some data mixing and matching and the astrazeneca vaccine the astrazeneca similar to the jj. But but we don't know that for certain so we need some clarity from the white house isa asks. What is the difference between the cdc vaccine recommendation and the fda approval the pfizer vaccine while the fda goes through the regulatory approval and to have a fully approved vaccine is is a really important milestone. But then the cdc will do is Make make potential recommendations on what to do after its license. So for instance you know once. Something's licensed a physician can ride an off label prescription for instance that and so what. The fda doesn't do his regulate medical practice so it's important to have a public health agency offer opinions and guidelines for what to do so for instance You know some physicians will now write. Prescriptions for third doses..

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"hotez" Discussed on Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

12:15 min | 9 months ago

"hotez" Discussed on Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

"We adopted a corona virus vaccine program. We begin working with a group at the new york blood center because nobody cared about corona virus. Vaccines just the pharma. Companies didn't care about neglected tropical disease vaccines and that's when we showed that the spike protein is the target of the of of a potential vaccine. And how you deliver the spike protein. How you measure virus neutralizing antibody so all of that went into our current cove in nineteen vaccines. Now we're developing one for global health. That's now being produced in india so elsewhere so And some ways you know. We got into corona virus vaccines because we had seen sars in two thousand to two thousand and three that's that was called severe acute respiratory syndrome. That was a serious that was the first serious pandemic corona virus than there was middle eastern respiratory syndrome. That rose out of the arabian peninsula. Two thousand twelve. We said you know what it's just a matter of time before we see a third one. That's why we began making grunt ivars vaccines and guess. What right on cue. That's one cova nineteen hidden. Unfortunately i we still haven't put in place the necessary things that we need to do to prevent a fourth corona virus pandemic or fifth and. Maybe we can talk a little bit about the. Yeah so you know. We're a year and a half hard to believe into this pandemic and feel like this. Spring seems so hopeful. As you know the vaccine's were rolling out but now it just seems like we're in deep trouble again. How did we get back to this place. You know you know mar beck in march and april. Maybe i was even speaking to you. Felt really good about things. Because we were our vaccine was advancing and we were doing such a good job right. The biden administration put a lot of federal infrastructure into get people vaccinated especially in low income. Neighborhoods assuring everybody at access and we were hitting on all cylinders and we were vaccinating. More than a couple ain't now. They started a million people at You know a day. I said you know we gotta do better than that. And they did and they really accelerated it and then all kind of stopped especially in the south it continued up in the north but then it hit a wall Starting around may and june and we had trouble convincing anybody to be vaccinated. And that's why we've got such low vaccination rates in the southern us and here in texas. It's actually among older americans. Were doing okay but among the young people adolescence young adults. Basically no one wanted to take the vaccine and now with this delta varian is just ripping through populations and we're seeing this massive acceleration of hospitalizations in its people in their twenties thirties and forties. Who are getting sick and even dying. And it's just so tragic. I you know i i think back at the beginning of this and as you know i had covered but when i think when i think back at the way we messaged this in the beginning i think that that we didn't do a great job. We meaning those of us who have platforms. I think that we've messaged the vaccination to be the silver bullet. And i think what we wound up doing was a disservice to asking communities for help during this time and that good the vaccination itself was just one piece of this but i think that we all felt like well once the vaccination and this'll be over just get vaccinated. This'll be over. And what that did was is when we did. Start seeing these whatever quote unquote breakthrough cases. I think it gave people who were vaccine. Hasn't to begin with reason to just be like you know what. Why should i get it. If people are just getting sick anyone would happen. Was we had a number of holes from the kaiser. Kaiser family foundation and monmouth quinnipiac. All the usual polling places. Friday identified two groups that were really vaccine hesitant one word or label republicans or trump voters and the other was where the by the by pop communities you know black and black and brown communities and so the biden administration put a lot of effort into this particularly for the bypass communities. You know the black and brown communities they really worked. Har- worked hard to get down those vaccine hesitancy rates and then the rockefeller foundation stepped up on one of their advisory committees. Now in and it worked we actually got did a lot better at convincing people of color to get vaccinated and that saved a lot of lives but the ones we couldn't reach were the conservative groups. The the trump voters who and and they dug in and then something terrible happened. You saw members you know and by the way it's not fun for me to talk about. Republicans and democrats are all of my training as a physician. Scientists we'll to talk about republicans and democrats and liberals and conservatives. But i don't know how else to de link the anti-science from it unless you talk about it. So that's what we started to see this defiance. It had been building since around. Two thousand fifteen. And i've been writing and speaking about it but it really took off and then you know that horrible weekend. Cpac conference The conservative conference. Where you had one member of angola's marjorie taylor green said you know this is. This is nothing or she was tweeting. This is nothing but a power. Grab from the biden white house to exercise control over us and then you saw another member of congress say this is a members of congress are saying this i they're gonna make us get vaccinated. Then they're gonna take our guns and bibles away and and that was awful. And then you had a senator senator johnson from wisconsin. Hold these town hall meetings and roundtables on adverse events surround. Vaccinations to kind of exaggerate. The the the impact of of the adverse effects of vaccines and then then the conservative news channels just piled on night after night on fox news and others newsmax basically doing all. They can't undermine confidence in vaccine. And it worked in that pyrrhic way. And that's why you see the vaccination rates go along a very sharp political divide strong blue red divide and and there's a reason why. Vaccination rates are the lowest in louisiana in east texas and mississippi and and going across into the northern part of florida. And guess what in delta x. is exploiting that and so what you're seeing our rates of infection now that are the highest they've ever been through this whole pandemic right now. Elissa states like mississippi and louisiana northern florida they have the highest cove in nineteen transmission rates in the world. Right not not just in the us in the war. I mean you know it just exceeded botswana. I mean that that's what we're talking about. And and it's here and also it's it's an hospitalizations of almost almost all unvaccinated individuals. And this is just a self inflicted. I dunno whatever metaphor you want to use. Self inflicted wound unforced error. It's but it is so tragic and so demoralizing and and it's demoralizing for those those taking care of these individuals especially the nurses. You know they. They're you know it's heartbreaking. They're the the nurses that are holding the hand the hands of young people in their last dying breath because they're in isolation and then they'll go off shift and they'll go into you know you you pick your store and everyone's not wearing masks and that's so demoralizing as well and it's it's just beyond awful so the question then becomes how do you reach those groups. What can you do. And i think. I think we're going to try to push vaccine mandates as far as you can in terms of employer mandates. I wanted to hold off for as long as possible. Because i thought that would just rev up the defiance gives them another caused celeb- brighter to two for the conservative news outlets. But now i think you know we have no choice. So we're seeing employer mandates federal mandates as far as you can take them like for the military but there are limits of federal power. And you know the states still control. Most the vaccine policy and and the rates are really low so if you look for instance among older americans. The differences between north and south are not that dramatic around eighty percent in the south ninety five to ninety nine percent in the north. So there's a difference but it's not a dramatic difference where the bottom falls out. Are the young people. Were looking at vaccination rates among teenagers frunze. Twelve to seventeen seventy five percent and some of the new england states twenty five percent in the south right and again. Is this because we mis messaged this in the beginning to be like it's not affecting. It's not impacting young cuteness. Here's what i think. I think you know i was on zoom calls for the last for like like a lot of people i was on zoom calls for the last year and a half because we knew there was going to be a vaccine hesitancy refusal problem and the problem was we kept on focusing on how we're going to amplify the message. Carry the message in there every time. Because you know. I've been going up against these anti vaccine groups for years because i have a daughter with autism youngest daughter and wrote that book. Vaccines the knockoffs rachel's autism that may be public enemy number. One i said look. It's important that your amplifying message accelerating messages but your messages are still messages in the bottle in the atlantic ocean because the disinformation war. The campaign is so pervasive in strong. And until you show an appetite to start dismantling the disinformation empire. It's not going to be heard. And that's where i departed from the biden administration. They just weren't willing to take that on. It was either was too daunting or two too scary or or or whatever and and now we're in the situation where we've got three groups. That are driving. This and disinformation one is of course the the the political extremism on the right and the sort of tribal call to not get vaccinated which is so awful. I think that's the worst. My colleague imron akhmed heads the center for countering digital. Hey it's amazing. We have to have an organization called the center for connery digital hake. Right driver dave. Identify what they call the disinformation dozen twelve non-governmental groups that are responsive responsible for about sixty five percent of the messages and then the third one which people's the russian government so the putin government has been using anti vaccine anti-science messages as a wedge issue to divide our country. So again you know via mcmurtry. The surgeon general's just wonderful is a really great surgeon. General got up there so we're going to do something about facebook and i said well yeah. Facebook is an is an important carrier the message but that's not the biggest problem the biggest problems the sources of the messages. And that's right where where where nobody wants to venture into at this point and the weaponization of science yet. Well we'll this even the term now. A colleague of mine at george washington university calls it a weaponized health.

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"hotez" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE

RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE

03:59 min | 10 months ago

"hotez" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE

"It's not fun for me to talk about. Have somehow sent the message. That your allegiance to the political right is somehow linked to not being vaccinated. And and we've got a break that i mean you know as i point out the gop's not historically anti-science lincoln started the national academy of sciences. Eisenhower started nasa. George w bush stop launched pep far the president's emergency plan for aids relief. I mean there's nothing intrinsically anti-science about the republican party. I don't know where this comes from. It's just bizarre in. It's it's an aberration and explaining that to people you know usually if i have enough time with someone you can eventually walk. Welcome back but it's labor intensive. And i don't know how you do that times. Tens of millions of people. I mean i think the estimates are there are still fifty million americans five zero who could be vaccinated burger non. And that's that's you know. That's the critical piece to all of this. So why has fox. The anchors on fox this week changed their tune in telling people now to get vaccinated. I think the other misplaced piece of this. Is everyone points fingers to the nighttime anchors Laura ingram goes after me and tucker carlson. I said look. This is not tucker carlson her. Laura ingraham this is an executive decision at the leadership of fox news. I say well you know you. You talk about tucker carlson. Laura ingram like there after work there. You know debating eighteenth century enlightenment philosophy. I mean you know you've gotta stop treating them like they're the committee on social thought at the university of chicago this is. This is this is an executive. They're doing what they're told from the leadership and it's not just fox there's it's news holdings view which is also by the murdoch's that are putting a lot of anti vaccine disinformation if you look at the wall street journal opinion section. It's it's a horror show so You know that's causing a lot of damage. So maybe somebody. In the biden administration got to leadership of fox news corp. You know that's one possibility. And then you know raining in those members of congress who you know the craziness from the cpac conference. I mean that was so damaging in saying that you know merger taylor green saying vaccines are nothing. More than a political instrument of control. I mean my god. I mean this is. This is the kind of stuff they're putting out there and people believe so. These people have a lot of influence. And i think that we have that we have to figure out a way to halt well. Any last words To people who are listening to this of the key is to you know if you're vaccinated. You're you're going to be chances. Are you're going to be fine and if you're and everyone your family's vaccinated and your level of community. Transmission is not high. You know all of those are good things But you know trying to get the rest of the country on the same page terms of vaccination levels we can still vaccinate our way out of this epidemic in the united states and and we can vaccinate our way out of this pandemic if we could scale up and get everybody vaccinated and and for me. It's you know the two forces that i'm fighting is the the three headed qadeer. A monster That's that's pushing hard on disinformation. That's hurting the country and the world world now in this lack of situational awareness of why we need to vaccinate the entire world. and why. this won't go well if we don't vaccinate the whole planet and and you have to stop but these twenty twenty three timelines..

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"hotez" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE

RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE

04:08 min | 10 months ago

"hotez" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE

"That's like fifty fifty to seventy percent larger than new york city and never heard of it. How did it get from wuhan to where. I live in northern michigan in a rural area of northern. How are people getting covert. We've looked at this the wrong way. And we have this sort of american exceptionalism things that we've got some kind of game of thrones. You know a wall around us protecting us. Ignorance ignorance historically leads the ones and in and intelligence and information and science that leads us to a better place. So i will continue to be an advocate for this and We scrapped what we were gonna do. today's podcast. Because i wanted to dive right into this without fear and talk about what we may be in the middle of. And what may be coming at us like a mack truck just months down the road and i wanna talk about our american way of looking at this and not understanding how what happens to the real happens to us and what happens does happen to the rest of the world and to divorce ourself from that is is maybe our biggest crime because we are only causing and will cause more death not not just here but around the world and And there has been one person Amongst a few others in had them here on the podcasts. He's wonderful doctors. Been one person who's been trying to tell us something and and it's about our connections to the world and it's about what we need to do in terms of getting people vaccinated and fighting the forces that are out there that have convinced way too. Many millions of americans not to get back some heated so this new report from the world health organization and the increases over the last couple of weeks we now have nearly a half a million new cases that have been reported each day in the last seven days ending on july eighteenth. And it's because of this rise of the delta variant and it's now spread to one hundred twenty four countries in addition to the delta variant. Were also dealing with the global pandemic of miss information this information about vaccines in about everything else related. The public health and businesses have now opened up. This summer and schools are planning to open up in a few weeks. The months ahead may get very ugly and sadly very deadly. Do not turn off this podcast friends. You need to hear what we're going to talk about. One of the few people fighting this pandemic of of misinformation with many great doctors and scientists fighting the pandemic. but we have a few who are also fighting the pandemic of misinformation and that is our guest here today on rumble. Dr peter hotel as he is the co director of the center for vaccine development at texas children's hospital and he is the dean of the national school of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. His latest book is preventing the next pandemic vaccine diplomacy in a time of anti science. I'm very pleased to welcome him to rumble for the first time. Welcome dr hotels as very kind introduction. Michael thank you so much. Well you are working on this on so many levels First of all the vaccine center that you and the other doctors are or can. There's this great piece in texas monthly here this past month about what you guys are doing to create a Vaccine that Kim especially to the third to third world countries That Is is not a uber..

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"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

03:09 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

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"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

04:11 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

"Movin is a huge component of that. Now i think that's such an important point beater that while we've mainly talking about the really tragic power and influence at the anti vaccine movement has here in the united states that unfortunately it has gained power and influence really all around the world over the last twenty years. What troubles me is for years. The other pushback. I got was well. The anti vaccine movements walled off to the us north. America it just this weird american financing guys. We export our music. We export our movies. What makes you think we're not going to export this stuff. Are you worried that these are a harbinger of states relaxing vaccine requirements for public schools. Well that's already started to happen. In unfortunately begin here in texas where. I am started with texans for vaccine choice which became one of the first political action committees against vaccines in two thousand fifteen. And now we've got anti vaccine packs and multiple states and we're already seen or the governor of texas governor. Abbott has issued an executive order against that your public organization you cannot insist on vaccine or mask mandates so this is gonna be this new wave in high you take the anti-science out of the gop because it would never used to be that way. I mean and by the way this is not fun for scientists to talk about right. I've been talking to doing public engagement for a number of years and the message was hey. Just stick to the science stick to the science. You're not supposed to talk about republicans and democrats and conservatives and liberals that's not your lane and up until last year so i've pretty much adhered to that but it got to the point where i don't know how else to talk about unless you talk about it especially when you had what was going on in the white house ron this time last year when there was a deliberate disinformation campaign to say cove in nineteen deaths were due to other causes or the hospital admissions were due to catch up an elective surgery or spectacular. Rising hydroxychloroquine was a very dark place for as a scientist to go talking about democrats in the white house. And and i'm still not comfortable doing it. It's still scary place for me. But i think it's necessary otherwise you are. How else do you solve the problem unless you can call it out. Bring it into the light. We're taking a quick break. Stay with us with how much we rely on our devices. It's easy to forget about the hardware. We're born with take ears like fingerprints. Your ears are totally unique to bad. Your your buds art. Unless you've got ultimate ears fits true wireless custom fit earbuds. Ultimate ears fits offer premium sound and all day comfort their groundbreaking life form technology guarantees. A perfect fit in only sixty seconds. Just put the earbuds connected the app and watch as the purple. Led's form the earbuds. Your unique shape with eight hours of continuous playback on a single charge and up to twenty hours with the charging case ultimate years fits are the perfect choice for listening to your favorite music and podcasts. All day long without pain or discomfort for a limited time get fifteen percent off above the current offer of your pair of ultimate ears fits true wireless earbuds at u. e. dot com slash. Fits just use. Promo code. Fits at checkout. That's fifteen percent off. The current offer with promo code fits at u. e. dot com slash fits tomko with your host of citizens. Jeff you may know me as the judge on top chef. He's not citizenship. We don't deep into topics ranging from disaster relief and various injustices and hurt our food system. I hope you're as excited as i am to jump back in so starting this. May you can tune it to hear from experts on a wide range of issues. That you with your fork and your dollars have the power to change. Listen to citizenship on the part where you have apple. Podcasts.

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"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

08:29 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

"And if that were uncomplicated. Enough you have inherent texas. The anti vaccine movement was starting to lose steam in terms of the autism links although that thread continues so what they did was they took on a political dimension around two thousand fifteen here in texas when they somehow managed to align themselves with the republican tea party down here and under this fake banner of health free medical freedom. And now we're seeing that full-on it's become a a a mainstream of political extremism on the far right and white nationalist groups have adopted the anti vaccine anti-science so the scariest performing now is by get these irregular emails and threats saying that army of patriots is gonna come hunt me down and i'm thinking well sometimes you just have to take a step back and just try to calm yourself. I say well. Why did they need a whole army to of patriots. I would think with just me. And rachel and the cat won patriots probably enough maybe to patriots but god does humor at. Its most painful peter. I don't understand the need for a whole of patriots but this is up against and from my standpoint. It's the worst it's ever been. And this is unfortunately a new role for scientists that have to deal with the anti-science movements. And i think part of the problem in science and postdoctoral education is. We don't provide young scientists with the skill set. Understand it to understand. What the anti-science movement is about how globalized and how to communicate. We need a whole qadri now. Scientists who can engage the public. Because i think there are people who still want to hear from us. I think there are a lot of people from you am curious. How do we at least try to blunt the ability of the anti vaccine adherence to do harm gar public health to do harm even even to themselves. What do you think we need to be focused on to try to limit the reach and limit the effect in my papers. I've made the statement that we spent a lot of effort. Invest a lot of resources to build infrastructure against things like global terrorism and nuclear proliferation and cyber attacks. We have to start considering that for anti-science and anti vaccine activities it's reached that level arguably even more people are losing their lives from anti-science than some of the other things that we do build infrastructure. For i think one of the problems has been within the us government and even internationally at the united nations agencies. The message that i've gotten for many years as peter. I hear what you're saying but you know what we're not gonna go there because worried if all the things that you're saying it's just going to give the movement oxygen and it'll give it extra life and attention that doesn't deserve and and i think that makes sense maybe nearly two thousands when this thing was just taking off but now with dominates the internet at dominates daily lives of of americans and people in brazil and elsewhere. So this is a monster now and that silence in that refusal to want to do anything about her has enabled the monster in in many ways. So the recommendation is to bring people from outside the health sector to get some advice on. What the levers we can pull and push bringing the people who've been going up against combating global terrorism and nuclear proliferation and cyber attacks for years and get some advice to understand what the the options are for instance in the biden administration. I've said let's create an inter agency task force to to look at this and not just people from the cdc in health and human services agencies. We need people from the state department. We need people from homeland security from the justice department from the commerce department. So i think that's one thing for the biden administration and then at the same level for the un agencies to bring in people outside the health sector to at least get educated on what we can do. Because this idea of just saying we're not gonna say anything because it'll just give it oxygen it. You can't do that anymore too. Many people losing their lives. Now because of this. What do you think. The role of the social media companies is well. It's clearly a lot. I mean that is a major via not the only vehicle but it is a major vehicle. I think we're starting to see some progress there from the big tax. I think we need a lot more by meaningless. For instance look at amazon. If you amazon dot com you go to the books on faxon nations. It's appalling i think. My book is one of the leading pro vaccine selling books for the preventing next pandemic but it's ranked about thirty because it's all fake anti vaccine cova conspiracy books in front of. So amazon's making a lot of money on sales from these books and they're extremely damaging so it's not only the facebooks of the world that's pervasive among the commerce sites as well. I think that's such an important point peter in that. It's not only the misinformation itself. Disinformation that so dangerous. And i have called repeatedly on facebook and and google and others to deploy form the largest purveyors of anti vaccine content and and creators amplifiers anti vaccine content. The second part of what you said is really important to that. It's also the opportunity cost of all that misinformation being there because if people are consuming that they're not reading your book they're not going to the cdc website. They're not picking up the phone and calling their pediatrician. Because they think they're questions have already been answered. This is pervasive now in few try to download health information about vaccines. You're much more likely to download the garbage than the real stuff but the constant thing you hear is that that parents are coming in to the office loaded for bear. I mean they come in with all of this. Anti vaccine misinformation and pediatrician is made to feel like he or she is not keeping up with the literature while they are. They're not keeping up with the fake literature. Why spend a lot of time even going through the major fake assertions of the anti vaccine movement of later on cove nineteen vaccines and they're pretty easy to debunk. But if you don't know all the science behind it you can get taken aback by. I'm worried that the anti vaccine movement has so successfully polluted the conversation around the covid nineteen vaccines that some of that pollution will infiltrate how parents are thinking about the routine immunizations for their kids in that we may have newly vaccine hesitant parents as a direct consequence of the last year and a half who previously were vaccinating. Their kids on schedule. Are you worried about that. No this is huge and not only young kids immunizations but for the hp vaccine also or the menchaca kazakhstan rate for older teenagers. Yeah absolutely for college. Entry so twenty twenty. One was a disastrous. Us for childhood vaccinations because of all the social disruption big declines in measles mumps rubella vaccine and off influence now hp vaccine no question about it and so we're all kind of holding our breath because is it gonna come back up to pre pandemic levels again or as you point out rightly point out. Has the anti vaccine movement become so dominant that we're not going to get back to pre pandemic levels or at least anytime soon and as bad as things are in the. Us this is going to be a global issue as well because there's been severe disruptions to global vaccination campaigns across the world and may two if you look at the last twenty years. We've made enormous progress because of gavi global lines for vaccines and immunization. And there's something called the clinton global initiative. I don't know if you've ever heard about that. But they did an enormous amount of work. You know work trying to promote childhood. Vaccinations and it worked. I mean we saw enormous progress in reductions in measles. Deaths no more than eighty percent reduction in measles deaths since the start of gavi in two thousand and we're already starting to see the slowing of those gains in the anti vaccine movement. Anti-science.

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"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

07:04 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

"Rachel's autism. He draws on his experiences. As a pediatrician vaccine scientists and autism. Dad examine an answer the questions and also to refute the concerns of the anti vaccine movement. I do. I want to ask you how you got interested in vaccines in vaccine development. Well ever since. I was an adolescent actually wanted to study tropical diseases you know as a nerdy kid with fascination with maps and microbes. Tropical diseases became the confluence of the two. And then when i entered into the md phd program in new york. Rockefeller cornell nineteen eighty. I really wanted to develop a vaccine for para parasitic disease. Because nobody was even thinking about at that time in the seventies the revolution in molecular biology was taking place but everyone was focused on diseases of the west or diseases of the united states. An i thought we need to start applying that whole molecular biology revolution towards eukaryotic pathogens that affect low and middle income countries and vaccinations were without question. The most powerful means to do that so most people now know us about our cova nineteen vaccine but the truth is most of my life has been devoted to vaccines for neglected. Tropical diseases that no one else will take on. Because they're diseases of the poorest of the poor so peter when you talk about the vaccines that you're working on now that haven't received the same attention our investment because of who is affected. The who is affected are not in the thousands right. we're still talking about diseases that affect millions of people around the world. Yeah that's right chelsea so you've got seven hundred and fifty million people. Now who live below the world bank poverty figure of dollar ninety a day and when you look every single one of them is affected by a parasitic infection or neglected tropical disease led by disease hookworm and schistosomiasis and scabies the fattest file araya system river blindness and and. This is one of the challenges. Not only are there scientifically complicated questions. But we don't really have ways to finance these vaccines we need as much innovation and the finance and business sector is doing the science. I still think a lot of people don't understand that while the development of the covid nineteen vaccines felt very fast and parts of it. Were really accelerated. By enormous amounts of investment. It was really enabled by decades of pre existing research. Yes absolutely right. So when sars hit in two thousand to two thousand and three coming out of southern china affecting toronto ontario and then you had mir's middle eastern respiratory syndrome in two thousand twelve. We saw the writing on the wall. And we said we've had two major corona virus epidemic slash pandemics in the new century. I'm sure we'll have another one soon. And we started partnering with an excellent virology group at the new york. Lead center led by she. Bu jiang and lunging do and those vaccines were orphan. Just like our vaccine soir in so he began. Partnering wrote to the nih supported and we started developing sars and mirrors vaccines. That was ten years of work. That made it possible for all the other kovic vaccines and i tell that story. Because if it wasn't for that we would not be moving so quickly and part of the problem was when the ceo's send out press releases you know how it is. They're sending out press releases not for you or for me. But for their shareholders and they tended to wanna spectacular is their accomplishments. And i understand that. But i think inadvertently it gave the public the impression that somehow there must be something unsavory about these vaccines because they popped up out of nowhere in then. Of course calling it operation warp speed. Which was an awful name. Didn't help any peter. You and i have now talked for years about the difference between. I think really important questions that people can ask about vaccines vaccination and then the whole universe of real disinformation attacks against the integrity of science. And so i'm just curious. Reversing back to nineteen eighty when you were embarking on your md phd work. Were you aware of the anti vaccine movement at the time. Did you have any inkling that the anti vaccine movement might affect your work in your life in any way not back then. I want to be part of that. Because the impact was so powerful. When i got my md and phd. I never thought that there would be an anti-science monster that was brewing at that time. And i never thought. I'd have to devote a whole segment of my career to going up against anti vaccine anti-science movements and i do it because again i i'm well positioned for it not only being a vaccine scientists for so many years but also being a parent of for adult kids now and rachel who has autism and intellectual disabilities because so much of the anti vaccine movement that sprang up in the early two thousands around false assertions that vaccines cause autism. And i wrote the book called. Vaccines cause rachel's autism which kind of made me one of the public enemy number ones against from the anti vaccine movement. And i did it deliberately. Because i thought look i i have a voice. I've been able to use it to get people to care about neglected tropical diseases and help to build that ecosystem. But i thought you know here i am. A vaccine scientist pediatrician paraffins adult daughter for with autism. If i don't do it who will and paid a pretty steep price for it. But i'm glad i'm doing it because i do think it's had some effect some positive benefits as well. Peter this steep price you've paid has been adding measured in just a really awful hate that you perceive seems at the moment kind of ceaseless like every day. You still seem to be under attack. There's been this dramatic expansion. And i call it. The triple headed monster. That i'm up against and the three components of will one are there. they're no longer homegrown groups. There well organized well funded groups that monetize the internet and the center for connery digital hate. It's amazing we have to avenue. Organization called the center for connery digital eight now estimates that those groups now at fifty eight million followers on various social media platforms so that's accelerated. And then you also have. The russian government has been using this as a major wedge issue to destabilise democracy's not only the us but elsewhere..

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"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

07:40 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

"What would you like to see happen. More of maybe the training of pediatricians and other people in medicine to be able to have with ill vaccine hesitant parents or even parents who are further on that spectrum that you talked about you maybe rejecting vaccines today but also really do want to make the best in the right choices for their kids health. So those facts that i'm holding onto. I'm working on a list of ten of them. I think if pediatricians can be armed with the facts that anti baxter's cannot are or feel their way out of love in. That's even on a pamphlet or something. That would do so much good. If i had known those facts when charlotte was two months old. I probably would've vaccinated her. That would have calmed all my concerns all my fears and so i'm training doctors to be armed with those facts but also there's a story of a little boy that had never had a seizure in his life and then he got a seizure right after his shots and so the mom took the little boy in the doctor. Said there's no way it's from the shots. So she took the little boy to the er and they said it's no way from the shot so you have this mom who feels insane. She feels gaslight. She feels crazy. And we know that phibro seizures are possible mashad and they're not dangerous but had the doctor said. Hey maybe it is but you know what it's okay you baby safe and we will watch your baby on the next vaccine will hold your hand and i will be there in. We will be on guard and we can get through this together. But your baby's okay. That would have built bat. Trust that acknowledgement that. Hey that sometimes does happen. And it's okay but to gaslight among she just joined the rain so dante baxter's so teaching doctors that antibiotics are moms are just trying to save their kids. They're not crazy and if doctors can get to the bottom by offering an explanation other than vaccines about what they perceive happened they will keep them as a provost sir and i think that's the biggest thing he them from going home and googling their way into the anti vaccine colt. Listen to what their concerns. Our concerns are and get to the bottom of it. Because they're gonna go off the deep end if you don't. I am curious though if other moms you have reached out to you though over the last year to say. I'm having similar questions. I think maybe i should vaccinate my kids. I just don't know what advice do you have happened. it has. We've actually convinced a few parents to vaccinate. They needed to see somebody that was so anti backs turn because if somebody was so anti vaccine they were able to turn. There must be a good reason. Why turned i can do the stew. And so we have seen people start to vaccinate their kids and get the kovic shot. Which is really exciting. Because i truly believe that coccia is the way to end the pandemic. Have you had any conversations with people who are not vaccine has an or not anti but are questioning this vaccine. Yes in the main concern. That i've found is how the code vaccine relates to fertility. That is by far the main concern. That rumor has run rampant on facebook. You know i'm not even allowed to visit my friend who believes that because i'm vaccinated. I will rub off and caused her to be infertile just by being next to her. Because of the coup clearly not rooted in fact theory that the vaccine will shed that you have been vaccinated you can shed the virus. It's like may drinking coffee in my caffeine rubbing off on you. It's just not going to happen. And that these people believe it and so you have this whole group of people that are starting to segregate away from society from the vaccinated people. They're breaking up with their husbands in their boyfriends their boyfriends are getting the vaccine and they will not touch them. This is going to become huge. They don't wanna be around these people. It's it's about to get really bad in my opinion and it's because the facebook groups are allowed to form where people are saying. Oh i felt tired after the vaccine on mom had a stroke twenty seven days later after the vaccine l. Well of course. It was from the vaccine. They are allowed to every single thing. Oh i had a hiccup after the vaccine. I've never up before the must be from the vaccine. Everything has been posted to these groups and these groups are being allowed to run crazy on facebook and people are sharing them like crazy that people that were going to get the shy are suddenly not it. Just there's no control over these groups and it is getting misinformation into every corner. Facebook and people are reading it and then they were going to get the vaccine and now they're not. Is there anything else that you'd like to share any advice that you would have for anyone listening to us about how to protect themselves against misinformation to be able to make important health decisions including around vaccines and vaccinations for themselves and their kids. Just be so careful when you're on facebook and you read. This happened right after. My kid got a vaccine. I was supposed to get my flu shot. One morning i cancelled. Because i wasn't feeling good and later that day. I started spitting up blood. It was a bad situation but you can betcha that they anti boxers would have blamed it on the flu shot. There is a man that was going to get his kid vaccinated but the line was too long so he left and he took his kit home taken app and the kid died of saids in their sleep in had gotten their back scenes. They would have blamed the vaccines. You have to understand reading these these this than that about the kovic shot. There's a lot more to it. So you just have to take it with a grain of salt. If you're wanting to go into the dark interwebs of facebook groups but i would steer clear and just follow the cdc the fda real scientists online like just. Pack your facebook and your social media and your twitter full of scientists and doctors and arm yourself with that so that you are able to fight off any lie. That is going to come out. You and i know being harsh on facebook. But i do believe they have a huge responsibility right now. And it's a life or death issue in my opinion my last question when you were not vaccinating your daughter not vaccinate yourself. Did you have family or friends who tried to reach out to you. Talk to you about why you were in. That place. talked to you about axiom. Vaccinations in did any of that work or are now it did. My mom would always say. I really think she's going to be fine. Just get the tennis shy like you and your brothers were fine. I think you're gonna feel so much better after you get the cheyenne on a have to worry about tennis. And then one of my best friends was always like okay. Why are you scared. And this is why you shouldn't be scared listening but also not empathizing to the point where you're giving in is good for also being loving and listening and understanding that they are coming from a spirit of fear. They are truly trying to protect their kid. I was truly scared. That charlotte would die if she was vaccinated. That was not me trying to ruin the world. that wasn't me trying to ruin her immunity. I was just trying to save my baby so knowing that going into it. These are people to do. They're just confused. Got the wrong information.

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"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

07:16 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

"Hi i'm chelsea clinton and this is in fact a podcast about why public health matters even when we're not in a pandemic today we're talking about vaccines well. More specifically about the toll. The anti vaccine movement has taken on our public health. Let's start with some basics x one of the most successful public health interventions in human history. They've saved millions if not billions of lives. They protected generations of children in the us and around the world from deadly diseases and right now the surest path out of the covid nineteen pandemic is to vaccinate as many people in as many places as possible but that of course requires wide scale public trust and participation two things that the anti vaccine movement has been working really hard to undermine vaccine movement has been growing in darkness for decades and now they've captured the spotlight as an is fear uncertainty to so doubt and spread lies about the coupe nineteen vaccines their efforts have been amplified by public figures who used their platforms to elevate debunked conspiracy theories and all of this is made much much worse by lack of accountability from social media and technology platforms themselves. The nfl move hurting our ability to recover from this pandemic and it could affect which vaccines this generation of kids received well beyond covid nineteen. So what can we do. How do we fight. The powerful tide of disinformation that began long before this pandemic and has unfortunately gained momentum during it. How do we overcome mistrust around vaccines and help more. People get the facts that they need to make the right decisions for themselves and their families while to answer this questions. I'm talking with two people who are confronting these challenges head on later. We'll hear from my friend. Dr peter hotels vaccine researcher and advocate and co director of the center for vaccine development at texas children's hospital. But i i'm talking with heather. Simpson a mom who fell down the rabbit hole and then pulled herself back up. Heather is an activist a freelance writer and a mom to three year. Old daughter hers is a story of how effectively the anti vaccine movement entraps people and a reminder that it's possible if not always easy to change minds. I started our conversation by asking heather how she went from someone who had always gotten vaccinated then anti-tax social media influence my mom vaccinated all of ice. It wasn't until i was eighteen. I had the choice to get my meningitis shot. And i hate needles so on. That alone chose not to get it going in college which was stupid. I did get the tea dot in two thousand fifteen. I got the flu shot school. It wasn't until me and my husband really started trying to have our daughter that we were like Should we do the schedule. I mean we haven't given much thought. And a documentary series popped up on facebook as an ad and it was nine hours a just pure propaganda. It was doctor after doctor blaming everything under the sun on vaccines so by the time. You're done watching all nine hours of terror. You're not gonna wanna inject your kid. I mean i was terrified. I was thinking if we inject charlotte. She will die in her sleep that night. The strength of the fear that i had was so so strong i was ashamed a little bit a little bit embarrassed about it because my mom groups were so pro vaccine so it didn't really tell anybody but when she was about eighteen months old i decided to start talking about it casually on the internet on facebook and it just took off and i didn't realize that their birth thousands and thousands of antibodies mom's on facebook that had all found each other and that there's this huge huge growing community and they just accepted me as one of them and it just took off from there. How did that make you feel when you were accepted. By the anti vaccine mom groups. I was living in west texas in the oil field area and my husband was at work all the time and so i was carrying per child on oxygen at the time. She's okay now. And i was just desperate for community so it was just the perfect timing to have this community crowd around me and take me and i can see how anybody would fall prey to that community and they are really good people. It's hard to see them for what they're doing. Which is pushing. Antibac- propaganda. Saw them as my friends in into without the facebook algorithm recommending that i long look into vaccine conspiracies and anti vaccine propaganda. Do you think you ever would have found it now. I don't think so. I think we have probably vaccinated our child so now fast forward few years. Your daughter's a few years old. What then changed. Why did you then decide to start. Vaccinating your daughter. Around this time. Last year i had to have surgery for endometriosis and i reached out to my community and they basically were saying well. You're taking the lazy way out and you just need to eat better in the in dimitrius with go away and i just felt so much. Shame and guilt. And i went to my doctor and she said no. You need the surgery. And i just burst into tears. And i realized that moment that the antibac- world thinks they can play god in a way like if you eat healthy enough and if you don't vaccinate and if you take all the right supplements me will never encounter illness. That kind of started tilting towards western medicine. And i started to speak out and i said. Hey nobody's forcing your kids to go to public school. Don't public schools have the right to mandate vaccines. If you're not being forced to go in. It's really hard to say that one vaccine hasn't saved at least one life. I think that would be impossible to say that. And because i had said even that that one vaccine saved one life. I was ousted by the community. There was no room for doubt or questioning or the middle ground. It's a cult. it's a cult. I was ousted. I ended up in the air with a panic attack. 'cause i had hundreds of people in that group too shaming me in attacking me and i was horrified and then covert hit and i realized all of them are also anti massacres. And they also deny that covid is real and then i started realize. Oh my gosh. These people are real conspiracy theories and i was like whoa and i just took a step back and i started reading books with actual science by dr paul audit and finding me a scientific fast that i can't get around before you left or were expelled from the anti vaccine mom groups. What were those early.

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Vaccines with Heather Simpson

In Fact with Chelsea Clinton

03:58 min | 1 year ago

Vaccines with Heather Simpson

"Today we're talking about vaccines well. More specifically about the toll. The anti vaccine movement has taken on our public health. Let's start with some basics x one of the most successful public health interventions in human history. They've saved millions if not billions of lives. They protected generations of children in the us and around the world from deadly diseases and right now the surest path out of the covid nineteen pandemic is to vaccinate as many people in as many places as possible but that of course requires wide scale public trust and participation two things that the anti vaccine movement has been working really hard to undermine vaccine movement has been growing in darkness for decades and now they've captured the spotlight as an is fear uncertainty to so doubt and spread lies about the coupe nineteen vaccines their efforts have been amplified by public figures who used their platforms to elevate debunked conspiracy theories and all of this is made much much worse by lack of accountability from social media and technology platforms themselves. The nfl move hurting our ability to recover from this pandemic and it could affect which vaccines this generation of kids received well beyond covid nineteen. So what can we do. How do we fight. The powerful tide of disinformation that began long before this pandemic and has unfortunately gained momentum during it. How do we overcome mistrust around vaccines and help more. People get the facts that they need to make the right decisions for themselves and their families while to answer this questions. I'm talking with two people who are confronting these challenges head on later. We'll hear from my friend. Dr peter hotels vaccine researcher and advocate and co director of the center for vaccine development at texas children's hospital. But i i'm talking with heather. Simpson a mom who fell down the rabbit hole and then pulled herself back up. Heather is an activist a freelance writer and a mom to three year. Old daughter hers is a story of how effectively the anti vaccine movement entraps people and a reminder that it's possible if not always easy to change minds. I started our conversation by asking heather how she went from someone who had always gotten vaccinated then anti-tax social media influence my mom vaccinated all of ice. It wasn't until i was eighteen. I had the choice to get my meningitis shot. And i hate needles so on. That alone chose not to get it going in college which was stupid. I did get the tea dot in two thousand fifteen. I got the flu shot school. It wasn't until me and my husband really started trying to have our daughter that we were like Should we do the schedule. I mean we haven't given much thought. And a documentary series popped up on facebook as an ad and it was nine hours a just pure propaganda. It was doctor after doctor blaming everything under the sun on vaccines so by the time. You're done watching all nine hours of terror. You're not gonna wanna inject your kid. I mean i was terrified. I was thinking if we inject charlotte. She will die in her sleep that night. The strength of the fear that i had was so so strong i was ashamed a little bit a little bit embarrassed about it because my mom groups were so pro vaccine so it didn't really tell anybody but when she was about eighteen months old i decided to start talking about it casually on the internet on facebook and it just took off and i didn't realize that their birth thousands and thousands of antibodies mom's on facebook that had all found each other and that there's this huge huge growing community and they just accepted me as one of them and it just took off from there.

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Pfizer vaccine protects against new Covid variants, study suggests

Mark Blazor

00:47 sec | 1 year ago

Pfizer vaccine protects against new Covid variants, study suggests

"At the University of Texas safe Visors Corona virus vaccine works on the new and more highly contagious variant that has been found. The study looked at the blood of those who have received the vaccine, and it supports other experts and saying This vaccine should offer the same protection. Against the new variant states have been encouraged to open up large spaces for vaccination sites in order to pick up the pace of those vaccinations. Some of the big outdoor stadiums, creating venues where people know that they could just go and get vaccinated when we have to make it easier failure, Baylor Infectious Disease expert Dr Peter Hotez says. We need to make vaccinations Maura efficient around the nation. So far, A total of 17 million doses of the vaccine had been distributed in the U. S. But only around five million shots have been administered.

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"hotez" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

05:28 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"The major concern, of course. Is that our way out of this pandemic as as I'm sure you're listening are aware really is the vaccines. And so the question is, you know? Is there any evidence yet? That this bearing won't won't be prevented by the vaccines in the same way that the other Barry, it's out there have been so far on the answer is, we're just doing that science right? We are creating science. Christopher Bear there, too to professor of public health and human rights. Johns Hopkins University Right now, The gentleman has given us the greatest leadership during this pandemic, Peter Hotez of conversations of February and March at Baylor College. And, of course he has received the vaccine. No shock there, Peter Hotez to go to the directness of it. What was it like the jab in the arm? Was It was fine, Tom. Thanks for asking. You know, it was that evening I had some arm soreness, and some body aches, maybe even a little bit of low grade fever. The next morning. A little A key by mid morning. The next day. Couple totally fine. So no worse than any other adult vaccination a worse than making bricks like in the cable TV business, Peter Hotez, and you've been everywhere on cable TV and forming America. It's about the cable of the last mile. Were it the last mile now? On vaccines were trying to get vaccines worldwide to people and we're not doing very well at it. Are you surprised? Yeah, I'm actually profoundly disappointed, Tom it where is now starting to realize the reality that there is no national strategy in the United States to vaccinate the U. S population. No. Everything we've heard about with operation were speed around the logistics. What they were really talking about was the logistics of getting boxes onto the ups and FedEx trucks and FedEx planes and And ensuring that there is no violation of the freezer chain. And But then there was no plan After that to vaccinate the American people. I remember Alan Meltzer were the freezer in the corner in the fifties. Peter Hotez, we got from socks to say them, and now we've got to get out two hotels in your low cost vaccine. Why could we do this with other things, and we can't do it with covert 19? You know, this has been the story of 2020. We've come up small every time in terms of our public health response on an absence of a national strategy. We muffed on the diagnostic testing. We never did hold virus genomic sequencing. At the level that we needed to like they have in the UK or Australia. And this is just more of the same assist insistence that the states have to be in the lead when we know they don't have the epidemiology and scientific horsepower to know how to leave this and we need the intervention of the federal government. And now we've got to vaccinate Tom. The estimates are we want to vaccinate 240 million Americans three quarters of the U. S population. Interrupt transmission by, say, September 1 That's 1 to 1.5 Million Americans every day from now until September, 1 So far, we vaccinated about four million, so we need to step up. This is our last Chance. Really? Because you know, the U. S government has backed us into a corner without any national containment strategy. They've now said. We've got to vaccinate her way out of this, and that's what we have to do. We have to find a way to stop coming up small and get this done. Dr. Hotez, can we quantify smoke? What you're talking about in terms of when the pandemic will, For all intents and purposes be over. Facing the vaccination schedule that you see versus when it could have been over the United States had there been a plan that you think would have been more adequate. Well, you know, I think right now what we need to focus on is getting the U. S population vaccinated by the summer. That's the only way we're gonna interrupt virus transmission, And that's a really high bar. You know it again, three quarters of the U. S population. That's That's our estimate with a group of City University of New York. That's 240 million Americans. Let me give you an example, The New York City let's say the Metro area's 18 million people. That's a roughly 12 million in New Yorkers that we have to vaccinate by the summer. That's what is that's two million vaccinations every month. That's 500,000 per week. We're not going to get there, you know, with people calling up Duane Reade and Rite Aid and Sam's Club and saying, Do you have vaccination vaccine for my mom and dad or the hospital changed? We're gonna have to open up. Citi Field in Yankee Stadium and create a high throughput mechanism for making this happen, And it's just shocking that there seems to be this lack of situational awareness across the country. This is what we need to do. Lisa, do you see how hotels does the math there? That's why he's Peter Hotez, and we're not. He's pounding through the math down two per hour vaccinations. Well, let's talk about the math of the dough sing of some of these vaccines, Dr Hotez. There's been some discussion not only just about the distribution mechanism that you're talking about, but also about the supplies whether we have enough Get two rounds of vaccinations to that critical mass of population with some proposals now saying, reduce the dose Ng and it'll be just as effective. What's your take on that? My take is the evidence base is not there to support that the face three trials were done with a very deliberate dose and very deliberate schedule. That's what the company CEOs have said this at least divisor CEO. This is what Dr Fauci has said. We know what works. And anytime you monkey with either dose or schedule. You're introducing an enormous amount of risk. Togut.

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Dallas County providers preparing to vaccinate groups at high-risk for COVID-19 complications

Eric Harley and Gary McNamara

00:28 sec | 1 year ago

Dallas County providers preparing to vaccinate groups at high-risk for COVID-19 complications

"The race is now on for vaccine providers in Dallas County to gear up and start vaccinating people who are at high risk for covert 19 complications. Dr. Peter Hotez of Vaccine expert It barely College of medicine in Houston says Operation Warp Speed has succeeded at getting the vaccines out. But passing the batons to states has not been so smooth. The last day of 2020 marked a busy day of vaccine inoculations. With city violent in and Tarrant County. Using the very last doses of their first

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Dallas County providers preparing to vaccinate high-risk group

Eric Harley and Gary McNamara

00:45 sec | 1 year ago

Dallas County providers preparing to vaccinate high-risk group

"The race is now on for vaccine providers in Dallas County to gear up and start vaccinating people who are at high risk for covert 19 complications. Dr. Peter Hotez of Vaccine expert It barely College of medicine in Houston says Operation Warp Speed has succeeded at getting the vaccines out. But passing the batons to states has not been so smooth. The last day of 2020 marked a busy day of vaccine inoculations. With city violent in and Tarrant County. Using the very last doses of their first shipments, North Texas is seeing a huge surge of covert 19 hospitalizations. Steve Love, president and CEO of the D FW Hospital Council, says one out of every four patients in the hospital says Cove in 19 Love says near future

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"hotez" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

KLIF 570 AM

03:51 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on KLIF 570 AM

"Into the mid thirties cloudy New Year's Day, mid forties for Kayla, if news meteorologist KaBOOM At the weather Channel 38 degrees in Carrollton. Right now, 39 in Irving and 38 in Dallas. Local medical experts are responding to President elect Joe Biden's comments that the US is falling behind in the distribution of Kobe 19 vaccines. Dallas County Medical director Phil Wang said the supply is still low and the coordination processes Well, complicated, just limited numbers that are initially available. According to the state, Texas has received close to 612,000 vaccine doses. By 164,000 people have received the first of two shots. But hospital officials say Well, the reporting process is time consuming. The state members are are much better than The ones that we've actually been given. Dr. Peter Hotez from Baylor College of Medicine, said the vaccine rollout is moving too slowly, and he blames a lack of planning. We know it was gonna be rough, but still we are falling below expectations, even considering that it's the story of our covert response. Fragmented, very hetero genius on even we can't afford it this time around. Hotels believes the restrictions around different groups should be opened up. And he said large vaccination hubs should take the place of pharmacies. Kobe 19 vaccinations are being offered locally to first responders. A parking garage at the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center in Dallas, is serving as a vaccination site for Dallas police, city marshals and firefighters. Jason Evans, with Dallas Fire Rescue says more than 501st responders have already been given shots, and the operation is expected to last about two weeks. Of course, that depends on the number of first responders who volunteered. This is this is strictly a volunteer effort. Those wishing to get a shot simply have to drive up, roll down the window and roll up their sleeve Clayton level Hey, LF news that was fire rescue in the Dallas Police Department of teaming up to prevent random gunfire and illegal fireworks for New Year's Eve, Deputy Fire chief CL Martinez said crews will be cracking down on the use of fireworks in city limits is subject to a citation. If we Find anyone in possession or using fireworks. And it's the citation to be up to $2000. This will also be issuing hefty fines and could make arrests for anybody responsible for celebratory gunfire. Local leaders asking everybody in North Texas to avoid large gatherings Tonight. Health experts project that Cove in 19 hospitalizations in North Texas will increase by 20% by January 5th covert hospitalizations in the area already at record highs, But Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins says the ball is in our court. We really can control that. Clayton if we make smart decisions today, and we are we do are her New Year's Eve celebration with just the people that we live with Jenkins, asking residents to avoid Bores restaurants in any large group gatherings until vaccinations are more widespread. Clayton level K L I. F NEWS, one of the last North Texas survivors of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 has died. Robert Tanner was 99 years old. He was 20. Stationed at the Army Air Corps Hickam Field when the Japanese attacked He was injured by a bomb and blown 35 ft into the air, but he survived. Went on to serve through World War two, the Korean War and Vietnam. Private funeral will be held Wednesday morning at the D FW Veterans Memorial Cemetery. Kale, I have to use time 7 11 time to check the money news. Here's the Business update from network Radio Spencer per gallon. Well. Final trading day The Dow Opens flat down.

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"hotez" Discussed on WGN Radio

WGN Radio

07:40 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on WGN Radio

"On a Sunday afternoon with Dr Peter J. Hotez a Dr Hotez. I can't. We don't have time for me to list all of these accolades again. How do I best Say who you are here in just a phrase. Um Vaccine scientists and pediatrician or people, Pediatrician scientists, I guess would be fine. Well, that is perfect because I have a question I'll get to about Children and the vaccine. But first of all, something that's not talked about a lot that I happen to know about. So this is called commonly SARS coronavirus, too, because there was a SARS coronavirus one and at that point in time, the government I believe The National Institutes of Health and others through a lot of money appropriately at that issue, and and vaccine was being studied and then right after that the Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome. Occurred as well. So I believe you know, everyone talks about the vaccine and how this is happening so fast And indeed it has but actually, and you'll have to explain this. Sure you know a lot more about it than I do. But this actually goes back about 17 or 18 years to the SARS coronavirus one and vaccine development actually began back then so well, it's happened really fast, not as fast. Has a lot of people think I'm right about this. Yeah, That's right. So when people say you know the development program pocketed be, it's just been a few weeks or months. Not going to be safe. I point out. No. This is a program that really began After that. First SARS emerged out of south China, and if you remember it wiped out the economy of Toronto for a while, it took a Rolling Stones concert to bring back the Toronto economy, and that's when Our National Institutes of Health. Did you know this? This is not looking good. Maybe there's other Corona viruses out there and began supporting programs. The vaccine development and we were the beneficiaries of that. We We're funded starting about a decade ago to develop a prototype Corona virus vaccines, and that's when we learned that the spike protein is the weak link of the virus is a soft target. And all of the vaccines work. By that we began making prototype vaccines developing animal models showing that if you deliver the spike, working certain ways you can protect laboratory animals and safely all of that went into The cove in 19 vaccine program. In fact, you know when they when the sequence of the code that 19 virus went up on a pre print server and middle January Most of us in the scientific community looked event said Yeah, we got this. We just knew we just have to find different ways to deliver despite protein and the idea behind operation works speed. Was because of the time pressures to do many things in parallel, so they applied multiple different technologies that once whether it be a Marin, a vaccine or the adenovirus specs. Are we confident, protein vacuum? And then the clinical trials were our large, robust clinical trials, bigas any of the others so that the only difference between what's happening now and in the past In the past. In order to go through full license here by the Food Drug Administration, you have to collect a year's worth of data to show that the vaccines are both safe and effective. And the problem there is if we'd let this go home another year. You know when you're accelerating through there are 3000 Americans losing their lives every day. You know you do the math. It's Be a staggering loss of life beyond look what's already been staggering. Could be a million lives lost. The thinking was Let's we're gonna release the vaccines now through emergency use authorization after two or three months of of safety and efficacy data rather than a full year. And But the FDA is a really good job in terms of closely approximating the full license, your process, and that's why I said publicly. Look, I'll take any Vaccine that's authorized by the U. S Food and Drug Administration. I feel that confident in the process, ensuring up defies the vaccine came along. I was given the opportunity to take it and I took it. I got the first dose and I'll get the second dose and In a couple of weeks after the first one. Well, I've got you beat, perhaps because I'm in the modern a trial. I don't know if I have the placebo or the vaccine. I'm going to be finding out. I'm told a fairly soon and I've read the data and with the modern it Data that I've gotten on also the Fizer data as well. For many of the side effects are adverse reactions. Interestingly enough, and I think it's important that we make a point of this that people who received the placebo had statistically about the same number of adverse events is the pleat people that actually received the vaccine. Now there are some exceptions, but for a lot Of those adverse responses. It was more or less the same, whether they got salt water or whether they got the real deal. Yeah. I mean, I think there are others the higher rate of sort of fever and fatigue and one day man when I got the five year vaccine That evening. I got in. I got her fired six o'clock in the afternoon by that evening. Maybe I had a slight fever, some arm soreness and body aches and pains. And when I woke up that morning, I sort of felt some of the body aches and pains. But by mid morning the next day, I was totally fine. And they say it could be a little bit worse with the second dose. I guess I'll find that out, too. But it's a Small price to pay, given the fact that this is a virus Maciste deadly consequences. Now in Illinois, we're going to begin vaccinating senior citizen centers, actually not senior citizen centers but assisted living centers as well as nursing homes. And how concerned are you? How important is it that the employees and or any volunteers at facilities such as these are vaccinated in Enormous numbers as the government has, the CDC has said. That's really, really important. Yes, vaccinating the residents, but even more so, the people that work there and volunteer there. You have absolutely there at the end of the day. Their healthcare providers and healthcare providers are top group that's been recommended for vaccination because we have to stabilize the health system. We can't have. Afford to lose too many more people out of the workforce. We don't have enough nurses and docks and respiratory therapists and Position assistance out there to take care of this massive surge that we're seeing now. And, uh, in our hospital device to use so that's really important to get the health care so the idea behind the recommendations On the CDC have been one too. The nursing home in assisted living residence account for about 39% of the deaths to their top group, but also the stabilized the health system because it's it's in danger of it's wobbly right now, because of this search that we have the money I see you you go into now. In many parts of the countries that were being overwhelmed, and that's when the mortality rates really go up. His nurses and staff become exhausted. And what's more, if if someone has a heart attack if someone has a stroke if someone has a problem, where there Needed to be seen cancer treatment even all those things..

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FDA panel recommends emergency use authorization of Pfizer vaccine

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:31 sec | 1 year ago

FDA panel recommends emergency use authorization of Pfizer vaccine

"First Americans now one step closer to getting the Corona virus vaccine after an FDA panel this afternoon to recommended emergency use authorization for the Pfizer vaccine. Next, the FDA has to grant emergency okay before millions of Americans can get vaccinated. The first to get the shots of the health care workers and those most at risk what infectious disease expert Dr Peter Hotez today saying he's ready to get the vaccine. I am first vaccine that's offered to me I'm going to take because I know that's the best way they stay out of the ice to you or the

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US surpasses 15 million confirmed coronavirus cases

All Things Considered

00:51 sec | 1 year ago

US surpasses 15 million confirmed coronavirus cases

"Milestone in the pandemic. There are now more than 15 million cases of covert 19 reported since the U. S outbreak began. Will Stone has the latest 15 million mark is far ahead of any other countries confirmed Total case count. India has recorded almost 10 million cases, followed by Brazil, Russia and France. The growth in cases has pushed the U. S to an average of more than 200,000 cases a day. Dr. Peter Hotez is dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. It's just so heartbreaking to see the numbers going up, especially when we know vaccines. I'm going to be here and over the next few months, Deaths and hospitalizations are at all time Highs and hotels says the holiday season will likely drive up the number of infections even more for NPR news. I'm will stone Stocks finished

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"hotez" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

09:49 min | 1 year ago

"hotez" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. The new Corona virus. Vaccines are giving us hope that we can get the virus under control. Visor and Moderna have announced that their vaccines are showing very promising results. And this week, a third company, AstraZeneca announced that the vaccine it's developed had good results in its late stage clinical trials. For the vaccines to work. People have to be willing to get vaccinated. I guess Dr Peter Hotez is an expert in vaccines. He's working on the development of one for covert 19, and he's very well acquainted with the anti vaccine movement. Dr. Hotez is the co director of the Center for Vaccine Development at Texas Children's Hospital and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. Much of his career has been devoted to developing vaccines for neglected poverty related tropical diseases. Texas where he lives, is the epicenter of rare tropical diseases in the U. S. He's the author of the forthcoming book Preventing the Next Pandemic Vaccine Diplomacy In a Time of anti science. His daughter Rachel was diagnosed with autism and 1994 when she was 19 months old. When a research study came out that was later discredited, connecting vaccines to autism, galvanizing the anti vaccine movement. He tried to debunk it that made him a target of the movement. He wrote about that in this earlier book, Vaccines did not cause Rachel's autism. My journey as a vaccine scientist, pediatrician and autism, dad. Dr Peter Hotez. Welcome to fresh air. So another three vaccines in the works that air they sound like they're all pretty close to actual production. You're working on one that you're hopeful about. So is this good news that we have three vaccines that are close? You're working on someone that you're hoping would be ready. Um, sometime when Well where it's in clinical trials now, and we hope by early middle next year Okay, So, um, does this mean that we're going to have to be like good consumers and decide which vaccine we want, or we not gonna have a choice. Which of the ones in the works. Now we end up taking No, I think the least in the beginning we're not going to have much choice. But that's okay. Because they all worked pretty much by the same pathway. They all work by inducing an immune response to the spike protein of the virus. And they're just different technology approaches to achieving that one of the questions, Terry that I'm asked all the time is Hey, Doc. Which vaccine are you waiting for? And the answer is I'm not They all worked by inducing virus neutralizing antibodies to the spike protein. That's the best way we know to prevent us from from for exposed to the virus from going into the hospital or the ice. You I'm going to take any of those vaccines that's made available to me. That's authorized by the U. S Food and Drug Administration later on, If it turns out that the length of protection is not so long, or if there's Better vaccines. You're coming along. It's okay. We can always get a boost later on, But don't overthink it. Don't wait. Get what vaccine you can because though they all work by Inducing it new virus neutralizing antibodies in tier system. I don't really understand how the new vaccines can predict their effectiveness. For example. In the studies the way I understand it for AstraZeneca and Fizer, they gave people the vaccines. There was a control group that didn't get vaccines and then everybody's told basically. Go about your business live like you've been living and then we'll see who gets the virus and whether the virus is severe when you get it. That each person I mean, you can't very well intentionally expose them to cove it like that would not only be unethical would be incredibly dangerous. You'd be risking the lives of everybody in the study. But if you're telling people just like, live your life, and we'll see what happens Well, everybody is exposed to different things in their life. So there isn't consistency. There isn't like a control of like what you were exposed to. So How can you really tell how effective the vaccine is? Well, the thinking behind these large clinical trials and we've had a lot of experience with this is these are really big. So the Fizer Vaccine is being tested 44,000 individuals, It's almost like a small city so that yes, some people will change their behavior because they either got the vaccine a placebo. They don't know which one they got. Others won't But it kind of evens out ultimately, and what happens is my understanding is this is looking at symptomatic infection, so that if you start developing symptoms that you think could be covert, you get tested and that counts for a case. And it wasn't subtle. It looked like the vet Thies vaccines provide a very high level of protections and 90% decrease or more in the in the cases and that's that's really exciting. So you're working on a vaccine? What does that mean? Exactly? What does the work that you're doing on it? Well it R Texas Children's Center for Vaccine Development at Baylor College of Medicine. We've been doing this now. For two decades. Developing low cost global health vaccines mostly focused around disease targets that no one else wants to take on because when they're complicated, often but second, their third diseases that generally effect only of the poorest of the poor. We've We've made some progress in terms of shaping vaccines and getting them to clinical trials. But then, about a decade ago, we recognize coronaviruses. We're going to be of enormous. Endemic potential, and at that time, nobody was really very interesting Corona virus vaccine, So we adopted it. We started partnering with the New York Blood Center together with the Galveston National Laboratory and Walter Reed and we wrote And NIH grant that was funded and we wanted developing vaccines for the first coronavirus of pandemic potential stars. They are stars one in 2003 that emerged. The southern China than Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome mayors so that when we saw the sequence of the stars to Corona virus that causes Cove in 19 and the Chinese scientists that put this up on a pre print server noticed by archive We realized that we could move pretty fast in terms of developing a third Corona virus vaccine for Cove in 19 in our scientists worked under incredibly difficult circumstances. And our this is ah. Group that's co led by my science partner of 20 years, Dr Mary Lana. But Tazi and they work day and night under difficult circumstances, because as you remember if you remember back in the spring Uh, they weren't allowing, uh, meant many businesses to be open. We have special permission because we were working on Cove in 19. They worked in record time and Building on all of the experiences the successes and failures that we had with previous Corona virus vaccines to move pretty quickly, And now this is we signed an agreement with bio e or biological E. Based in Indian Hydra Bad and They're now scaling this up to 1.2 billion doses, testing it across India, so it's very exciting for us to make a contribution. We we've never made a billion of anything before, so that's That's pretty exciting also, but the point is, this is a very traditional technology. The same technology used to make the Rick competent hepatitis B vaccine used all over the world, and that's important for two reasons. One Many countries have the ability to make their own hepatitis B vaccine so that potentially our vaccine could be made locally. It doesn't depend on it being made in Europe or the U. S, and then filtering to the low and middle income countries. And it could be made pretty inexpensively. We think so. The hepatitis B vaccine in many cases is made for under a dollar a dose, so we think our vaccine could come along in the similar cost structure. President Trump is taking credit for project warp speed. And for fast tracking the vaccine research, and I'm wondering how much credit you give him directly as opposed to the career. Scientists at the CDC and ih Nyad On baby, you convention one or two of the things that you think he's done wrong and done right? No question. None of this would have happened without carefully thought out Infrastructure. By the National Institutes of Health and our fantastic research universities and institutes that that made all of this possible. I will say exactly how operation works. Speed was assembled. I don't have a lot of details about that. I will say the individuals chosen months of slowly and General Gus Purna looks like done a very good job. Mon set by. I've known for a while he came out of GlaxoSmithKline vaccines He's been in our laboratory is a very smart vaccine guy and And has done uh, looks like a really good job so far in leading that. Three. Only three only piece that I would say that that has not happened that I would have liked to see more of Is more of a communication strategy coming out of operation works..

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Texas National Guard deployed to help El Paso with morgue overflow

Texas Home Improvement

00:18 sec | 1 year ago

Texas National Guard deployed to help El Paso with morgue overflow

"Rabbit is sending 36 Texas Army National Guard troops to El Paso this morning to help with mortuary services. Baylor College of Medicines Dr Peter Hotez suggests that love It could be one of the worst affected the large cities in the nation, surpassing El Paso

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Houston mayor says city 'moving very fast in the wrong direction' as record cases reported

WTOP 24 Hour News

00:29 sec | 2 years ago

Houston mayor says city 'moving very fast in the wrong direction' as record cases reported

"Cases and hospitalizations climb mayors and county judges have begun implementing mandatory mask orders including Houston mayor Sylvester Turner our numbers are moving in the wrong direction Dr Peter Hotez dean of Baylor's national school of tropical medicine warns Houston could be headed towards a situation he calls apocalyptic if the numbers continue to accelerate we could be looking at a situation resembles New York

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Pfizer Begins Human Trials of Possible Coronavirus Vaccine

Frank Beckmann

00:57 sec | 2 years ago

Pfizer Begins Human Trials of Possible Coronavirus Vaccine

"Pfizer and its partner Germany bio and tech have begun delivering doses of their experimental coronavirus vaccines for human testing in the U. S. Dr Peter Hotez is dean of medicine at the Baylor college of medicine he says this testing will involve many people and take time and ultimately will involve thousands of individuals per vaccine candidate and when you start talking about fifteen or twenty candidates you can see that the numbers go on pretty quick that takes time to collect takes time to analyze and that's what I'm a little worried about not rushing things that's why I don't like when people started saying by the end of this year or using these science fiction metaphors like operations were speeded implies that we're doing something on toward doing something that's rush Pfizer says if the vaccine proved to be safe and effective in trials it could be ready for U. S. distribution by the end of the year which is much faster than the usual development

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"hotez" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

01:43 min | 2 years ago

"hotez" Discussed on KQED Radio

"This virus that's Dr Peter Hotez a professor of virology and microbiology at Baylor college of medicine in Houston thank you so much thank you this is here now air travel has slowed to a crawl during this and then again if your flight was canceled is a good chance the airline hasn't given you your money back I somehow feel they're being what's the right word disingenuous millions of Americans waiting for a refund for trips that never happened that's on the next morning edition from NPR news a travel voucher or cash here the story tomorrow morning on morning edition three AM until nine A. I'm Jack let PR's worldwide corona virus cases have now passed two point six million with more than a hundred eighty one thousand deaths in the U. S. there are more than eight hundred thirty four thousand cases according to figures from Johns Hopkins University that includes nearly forty six thousand American deaths German regulators have approved the country's first clinical trial of a coronavirus vaccines country's health minister says the trial will monitor two hundred people and that it'll take months to fully test the potential vaccine south Africa's president is deploying another seventy three thousand national defense troops to help enforce a strict coronavirus locked him up from the twenty five hundred deployed at the start of the lockdown late last month C. Rama Phosa says those troops will also be used to transport and very bodies from the outbreak.

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Coronavirus Update with Dr. Peter Hotez

Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

06:24 min | 2 years ago

Coronavirus Update with Dr. Peter Hotez

"My Name is Dr Peter. Hotels and I believe that everybody in the United States deserve access to new drugs and therapies vaccines for cove in nineteen regardless of their ability to pay Arina. Sorry Dr Hotels. Thank you so much for joining us again. A lot has happened since last. We spoke some of it. Good and a lot of it bad. Can you just give us an overview about the status of the pandemic in America right now? Well of course the big over you for the US was this really horrible humanitarian tragedy in New York New Jersey Connecticut in the northeast. And we're still not nearly done. It's probably still going to go on for a few more weeks but I never thought we would see that level of the station in terms of death and admissions to the hospital in intensive care unit. And it's given me a real perspective on how things could go terribly wrong here in the United States so for me. Now it's all hands on deck and making certain that what happened in New York especially in places like Queens New York which you know I know you know very well would never happen again elsewhere in the US. Well I mean you call that a humanitarian crisis. Why do you identify it as that? Well it's the level of suffering that I'm seeing and it goes beyond you know it's not just the ticks of the number of deaths. I mean we're hearing about scores of schoolteachers. For instance getting sick and dying. And even you know there was an article that really broke my heart about the doormen New York. Yeah numbers of them have gotten sick and died and I went to medical school and Graduate School in New York at Cornell and Rockefeller. And you know you'd have a bad day in the lab and you just take a walk and the only people up at that hour would be guys standing in the doorway and on some evenings. They'd be your only friend and you'd have a little. You know nothing little informal chat with them and and that all those people are getting so sick and dying is really heartbreaking. So that the situation in New York and New Jersey and the thing that I'm really concerned about now is whether we really learned our lessons from New York and New Jersey. Why do I say that's so? For instance here in Texas. We saw what was happening in New York. We implemented social distancing early on really ahead of the virus so we never saw peak anything close to resembling what happened in New York and New Jersey. And that's been great. We've not had a huge number of admissions in the Texas Medical Center to the hospital the ICU we've got some. But it's definitely a manageable problem but now I think we're starting to hear from the governor that now they're anxious to open things up again right and relaxed social distancing even though a number of the epidemiologic models and I know the epidemiologic models are not perfect they have their flaws are basically saying for some states like Texas. We need to maintain that social distancing until June. One until we go back to containment vote and the problem is that the governor's in many parts of the south and the West. Just don't have the appetite for that. They're going to open things up earlier than June one. And maybe even by next week or the week afterwards and I understand the realities of closing down the economy. I understand the hardships that many people are facing that. They're not getting a paycheck and I understand the need to open segments of the economy. The piece that bothers me is that I'm not confident. We have the public health infrastructure. That's been put into place in order to manage what's going to be a new surge. We don't have places of business well set up to do testing a regular basis. We don't have the staff in place from public health agencies to do the contact tracing. We don't have syndrome surveillance activities in place so I'm very worried not so much for the next few weeks but I'm worried we're going to start to see a brand new round of searches that could even dwarf the ones. We've been seeing what happens starting over the summer. So I'm very worried and going on cable news a lot explaining this that come July and August if we don't have national plan in place not only around the economic recovery but linking at the public health we could even see unfolding situation. That's worse than we saw in March and now the first couple of weeks of April. Well the thing that I don't understand is has it. Peaked and with governors wanting to open up their states. Will there even be a single national peak or are we just going to keep peaking state by state and not get on the same page with this? And is it necessary to get on the same page? That's basically the worry right. The peak in New York according to the models is already happened a few days ago and one in Texas maybe in another week or so and then the numbers are starting to go down. The problem is we often forget. This is like the eye of a hurricane just because the first wave of the hurricane hit and you see the eye doesn't mean I go outside and play. It means the second part is coming so that part has to be considered and then not having a system in place to prevent a bigger resurgence in the summer of great concern. Because if you look at the models and yeah anybody can do this by the way. It's that's what I'm thinking about the models that they've set up in Seattle is anybody can go to just go to health data dot org and you can click on your state and see what's happening the models basically show a peak and then decline going all the way to August and don't really try to predict what's going to happen after that because they don't know what's going to happen in terms of relaxing social distancing by understand the urgency to relax social distancing. It's just that with out a plan in place for my during it. We're just asking for a huge problem. Potentially much bigger than the one. We've already faced

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Houston officials prepare for an influx of new coronavirus cases

The Car Pro Show

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Houston officials prepare for an influx of new coronavirus cases

"Infectious disease super expert Dr Peter Hotez of Baylor college of medicine says the greater Houston area should prepare for a dramatic surge of covert nineteen cases over the next three weeks Dr Anthony Fauci says that we're not even halfway through the combating the spread of the

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Houston's COVID-19 peak expected in early May

Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis

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Houston's COVID-19 peak expected in early May

"The number of covered nineteen cases in Houston expected to peak in just a few weeks that's according to mayor Sylvester Turner I was on a conference call on yesterday with Dr Peter Hotez who's leaving a damning allergists at Baylor and what he indicated he's is said he felt that the peak for this for the state of Texas the people in his view would come somewhere around may the second Turner says the city is leasing to hotels to quarantine city workers and first responders and working with the county on the third the studio also opened the second testing sites and to double its daily testing

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Coronavirus Special Episode with Dr. Peter Hotez

Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry

04:32 min | 2 years ago

Coronavirus Special Episode with Dr. Peter Hotez

"I'm Peter says than I believe that. All of the world's population including the world's poorest people deserve the right access zoo essential medicines vaccines innovation. Sorry not sorry I just from a medical perspective. What makes this virus so different than some of the other viruses that circulate? Why is it so deadly? Well this is one of the interesting things about this corona virus. It's not the most lethal virus we've ever seen by a long shot right. It's nothing like Ebola. Kills Half of untreated people. Nor is it like needs those in terms of transmissibility that must transmissible be no but it's high enough both categories to give it this unique spin that we haven't seen from a lot of other viruses. Let me explain a little bit. So the virus itself overall is between five and twenty times more lethal than seasonal influenza. Which itself is a bad actor. And it's quite transmissible at two or three times more transmissible than flus. You've got something that's not quite as serious as the nineteen eighteen flu pandemic but it's starting to approach that but it only happens for certain age category so this is really interesting. It's highly contagious. And but there's a lot of people walking around with a that are not too sick to stay at home so they could spread it in the community. Let me contrast that was something else so if you look at the original SARS virus this new virus. You're calling it. Sars to the original one which came out in two thousand three. Was You know five or six times more deadly and more serious illness for everybody? So what happened was if you had that original SARS one virus in two thousand three. It's not like you were walking around going to target going to the shopping mall. You are sick. Any were better. You're in the hospital and that kind of kept you out of the community pretty quickly. This one is different than last year. One of those at risk groups and I'll tell you which those at risk groups are. You're walking around spreading the virus pretty widely in. That's why this thing has taken off so much in central China and in northern Italy and then in the US doing this as well but if you're lucky enough to belong to one of the three or four major at risk groups that's when you get very sick and half the go to the hospital for those combination of reasons it makes it a very serious national epidemic and also. I mean you know I don't want to politicize this but the president is giving guidelines and recommendations that I don't know vary from interview to interview right. I mean it's like every single time. We hear him speak. He's talking about something else some other guideline that contradicts the guideline before. So how can individuals be expected to know the right thing to do when they're getting totally conflicting information from our leadership when needed to be done? What still needs to be done is and I've said this in public. Few Times is what you need to do in. This kind of situation is ever have very honest discussion with the American people. Were you say you know? You don't say this is just the flu or a cold or this is contained. What you do is say. Look this is a serious pathogen. These are the three or four things. I'm most worried about you. Talk about older Americans especially those with underlying disabilities. You explain why you talk about healthcare providers. Now we have to -mergency room physicians in critical care this weekend. According to the New York Times and so these are two or three big populations that were worried about. And here's what we're GONNA do about and why we're GONNA do what we're doing and historically the American people responded to that very well at. It's just when you model the message and say you know in in an effort to reassure that language was used which tried to oversimplify minimized. It actually wound up making things much worse. I said you know if you had actually gone through the three or four things that you're worried about. Here's what we're doing about it. I think that in itself would have been stabilising and we might not have seen this volatility for instance in the stock market and everything

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"hotez" Discussed on Global Health

Global Health

13:51 min | 2 years ago

"hotez" Discussed on Global Health

"Washington for eleven years was if you WanNa get anything done you can do it. Provided you're willing to reach across the aisle and not be too ideological and I still stand by that so you know. I think what we're going to see in the United States is we will see an increase in the number of cases right now. It's around twelve. Those numbers will go up. Maybe one hundred or a couple of hundred. I don't think we'll see anything nearly as bad as what we're we're seeing China but you never know for certain because we still don't understand all the transmission patterns and things. I'm relatively optimistic about the US. As well as European countries. I think the reason why Dr Ted drove the Director General of the of the World Health Organization declared the public health. Emergency of International. Sern was because of what happens when this goes into resource depleted countries. So there's a lot of Chinese traveling back and forth to places like the Philippines and Laos Cambodia. That's rethinks can go very badly. Because they don't have Adequate health system in place There's not the monitoring. There's not the disease surveillance and then we also have through the through The President Xi in the the belts and road initiative in Africa. We have between one and three million Chinese working in Africa right now. So and put pretty regular flights especially going to Addis into Ethiopia from from China. And you can imagine what happens if this virus gains a foothold in you know you name your sub Saharan African country. There's some are better than others in terms of health system infrastructure. So that's where things could go very badly as well. So that's that to me is my big concern word. This could really emerge into pandemic meaning that it's an epidemic in with lots of transmission in multiple countries in different parts of the world. And I think there's definitely that possibility where it could become pandemic when thinking about the response to the outbreak. Both you know you mentioned from the Chinese government but also from governments more generally. How do you think the relevant countries have responded so far do institutions seem to be taking the appropriate steps? St Think there's more that should be done in the regions particularly the regions that are most vulnerable. And just curious how you're reading everything that I can tell terms of the US western European countries. Japan South Korea I think Malaysia even Singapore. They know how to do this. They're on top of it and through the benefit of Chinese science. They had advanced warning on what this virus is and some idea on how it's transmitted so I think I'm not so worried the low and the big low and middle income countries. You know what's happening going to happen. If this goes into India or Ethiopia Tanzania or or as I was saying some of the Southeast Asian countries are going to be on Mar. Who knows you know? I just just no way. I mean. There's a few positive things that could happen. One is historic. We've known what we've known about the there's also a bunch of human animal corona viruses that cause upper respiratory infections Sore throat. Uri Symptoms. They tend to peak in in the Northern Hemisphere. They tend to peak in Ron January around now so the hope is an SARS when when it broke out of China I believe peaked in March so the hope is that there's a sharp seasonality to this and as we move into April and May there for reasons that we don't entirely understand. I don't think for a lot of viruses. We don't really understand their seasonality. It could really diminish and then the question is will come back your will this be a seasonal thing like flu. I you know how do you know? It's an agent so we we no idea and so that so the potential good news. Is that your sees analogy what that means for the Southern Hemisphere because you know for flu for instance inverted right this peaks in the summer months. Not In the winter months. So that's that's going to be interesting to look at and whether we can accelerate a vaccine and a reasonable period of time if we you know the the technical feat of making a vaccine against the crow virus tends not to be nearly as bad as flu or or AIDS because of anaesthetic digital doesn't seem to be that Anna genetic variation the problem that you get into with Corona virus vaccines rather respiratory vaccine says that immune enhancement so each each vaccine target. Has its own little shop of horrors right in terms of what what you worry about. So that that's what I worry about for Khurana ours and and I think they're now at least four or five promising technologies candidates out there including ours for vaccinating. So it's a question of whether the world can organize itself to move all those four or five candidates former simultaneously because if you just rely on one technology that's that's a very high risk strategy. And what do we know about timeline for vaccine development? Right now both yours and the other the actual making of the vaccine is is not so difficult For Ours is is an old technology receptor binding domain of the recovery so recombinant protein vaccine genetically engineer niece than our K. So that's envy of precedent for that with hepatitis. B Vaccine is a yeast derived recombinant protein. And then you have the HP vaccine. That's also recombinant protein. So we know we can make it And same with the DNA in our new vaccines. They're not that challenging. To make the problem is at all they all feed into a bottleneck and the bottleneck is despite what the Anti vaccine claim. That vaccines are not safety tests. The truth is they are probably the single most heavily tested pharmaceuticals we know about in terms of safety. And that's why it takes a long to develop a vaccine. It's generally not the technology behind it. It's which there is some investment in that case we spent years making this Sars vaccine manufactured. But you still have to do one. Eight animal toxicology study regulated by the National Regulatory Authority in our case. Fda under good laboratory practices thundered a specialty contractor. Knows how to do that. That takes time and then phase one phase two trials. Take time and there's just so much you can compress that timeline. And you can't do that so up up to a point so you can only do it up to a point. So that's what's that's what's going to slow us down which is frustrating for our SARS vaccine because had we found that investment to move forward with the clinical trials back in two thousand sixteen after we made it we literally have had a vaccine ready to deploy in China now. And it's a bit frustrated. Your I think i. I don't know if I missed it or have heard you say elsewhere. It could take up to a year. Is that a okay timeline or is it just highly variable? Yeah the question is whether they're one of the things we learned In deploying cholera vaccine into places like Yemen and in Haiti or The Ebola vaccine now in DR Congo is there there's opportunities for Innovation Regulatory Science in order to accelerate some of those safety testing. I mean I think what's going to come out of Ebola. Vaccine Development in Congo and twenty nineteen is going. You know that is going to be one of the most important public health stories ever told when somebody gets around to. It's gotTa be worth worth a documentary serious documentary. I mean because this was a vaccine. That was Administered in clinical trials. Under some of the most difficult circumstances we know about through conflict and war right and despite that the W. H. O. The World Health Organization with Garvey and UNICEF and the Wellcome Trust and alliance several organizations the Merkin Company and and Barda was able to vaccinate over two hundred thousand people and averted a catastrophe that would have dwarfed Ebola epidemic in West Africa. In two thousand fourteen. I think and really stabilize the African continent and that fortunately that vaccine turned out to be more than ninety percent protective. So that is As I say I think it's one of the great public health stories that has yet yet been told that book is waiting to be written. Yeah well I mean that's incredible work and so we're all rooting for you and this process Unfortunately our time is rapidly coming to a close. I have one final question for you. I have a lot of listeners who are healthcare providers that take care of immuno-compromised children with malignancies primarily. And so what I want to ask you. What do we know about the specific risk of mortality or morbidity with the current virus both for just regular folks but then also thinking about specialized population like immuno-compromised people? So what they're still more. We don't know than we do. What we think is all the official numbers as of today are going up to twenty-eight thousand some model lurs and epidemiologist think the real numbers around one hundred thousand at least and that's because the only cases that are being recorded are those causing severe morbidity often requiring hospitalization or even intensive care support. So the what's thought of is that there's many more people with low grade symptoms or upper respiratory symptoms who are not getting to medical attention so the good news. There is the probably. The mortality rate is lower than we. We think I think the the real risk right now is frontline healthcare workers. You know their risks and we've already seen potentially a death or two from among healthcare workers. The ones who are doing very badly with this virus tend to be older individuals over the age of sixty more males and females for reasons that we don't understand and those with underlying diabetes and hypertension. And there's that there's an emerging story about Diabetes Infectious Diseases in general that we don't understand so for instance those dying of Danke and India are those with underlying diabetes hypertension those dying of tuberculosis and the border with Mexico. Are those underlying diabetes hypertension. So there's a great pathogenesis story because nobody really understands the the base of that. So those with underlying diabetes and hypertension. I don't know if anyone's really looked at those with the kinds of immuno-compromised kids that you have to deal with on a regular basis either because they have severe combined immune deficiency genetic immune deficiency or HIV AIDS acquired immune deficiency or because. They're undergoing cancer. Chemotherapy suppressive therapy for one reason or another I would imagine they are at increased risk. Right we know about this from other respiratory Athens like para flu or or their Sela but That story may emerging time as well. I think we should assume there's risks. Yeah okay well. Is there any particular advice you could leave us with in terms of a frontline health? Care worker who Either might be wondering about it or just worrying. You know what could come next for my country. What would you say to someone like that? I would say those. Who are I know? A number of your listeners are particularly interested in Africa. Right now. This virus has not gained a foothold nearest firms. Mu Now my worry is. It'll take time for people even realize that has gained a foothold. Because we don't have the surveillance system in place so watch out for serious respiratory infections and and we need to have a low threshold for alerting public health authorities about that. One of the reasons that I was against the travel ban from China is because it's very stigmatizing and once this virus moves into Philippines Myanmar sub Saharan Africa. The National Health Authority. There's going to have to think twice about whether they want to divulge information because then subjects your country to travel ban so I I think. Travel bans tend to be counterproductive. Merriman the aspects of them because the tend to incentivize people not to be transparent and So we'll see how that plays out as well and then one thing I can't believe I forgot to ask there are reports about the virus potentially being effective Up to two weeks prior to onset of symptoms has that been verified or. Do we know anything about this? Latency period there's paper published in New England Journal of Medicine From an experience in Germany where they thought that's happening now. There's a question about whether person one of the individuals may have had some symptoms but didn't adequately report it. You know it's not unusual. I we know for instance for measles. Measles could be transmitted from an individual who hasn't shown the rash or even the pro drum yet the couple of days ahead of time. So I would say this. I think it's still possible off. It is late incubation period. You know maybe the day or two before the symptoms but it's also been noted that people with respiratory viruses. Even if that's the case you have a much higher viral load more likely to be infectious. Why you've got symptoms so there probably are individuals who are about to become sick. That are still transmitting virus. But I think most of the cases are probably coming from people actively infected with coughing sneezing and all those kinds of things. Okay well Dr Hotels. You've been unbelievably generous with your time. It's your busy schedule right now. so thank you very much for talking to us and for giving us some real reliable non social media generated information about the corona virus and the prospects for vaccine. Thanks so much for having me and good luck on your podcast. Thank you very much..

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