15 Episode results for "Holly Warlick"

Hour 1: 3/1/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 1: 3/1/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried passion and patterns re of college. Football leaves Keer Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast meant the Friday guide your here and what a weekend is in store, especially if you're a college basketball fan lot to talk about on our program today. Welcome to Friday. It is March. It isn't let me double yet Marsh. I can you believe it we've made it to March already and the madness of March well underway this weekend going on. Let's get right to the headlines before we get to your phone calls SEC showdown between Tennessee and Kentucky. Last couple of weekends. We've seen get battles. Like this. Tennessee at Kentucky, Tennessee at LSU and Kentucky returns the favor heading into Knoxville. They won the first one last year. They lost both regular season games at one in the tournament. Yeah. That's that was last year, though, what happened the last time these two met that was about two weeks ago up. Annecy and Kentucky their first of two regular season two meetings. The balls are on the longest winning streak in school history. So simple to get the ball inside the VJ Washington. And he is looking like an NBA post playing Travis with a hustle, rebound and water. This is getting away from Tennessee. They have been manhandled rejected by Travis numbers were Kentucky. What a performance by the Kentucky Wildcats here tonight it out number one. Catch did it. And when teams meet twice as an ape as AP top can opponents look at what has happened in recent years. Tap in a couple of times, it will happen again as that is the headliner there. Couple of other important games in the SEC. And we will talk about all of that. As we roll through this program big show on tap. John adams? Probably having a Samuel Adams right now. After his recent column, we'll talk about that in a few minutes. John Adams writing about women's basketball. You can probably guess what he had to say Jordan Davis. You know him. He's big LSU fan country music star had a couple of big hits. You talk hoops football. You name it and one half of the famous finebaum Greenberg law firm. Seth Greenberg joins us from Houston. No problem out there. Seth will. Join us. We'll get your phone calls. And you're welcome to do that right now. Give us a ring. Eight five five two four to seven to five. I mentioned we will talk to John Adams John writing today in the Knoxville news sentinel about last night's lady vol's loss to Vanderbilt. It was the first time ever the lady vol's have lost Vanderbilt in Knoxville Vanderbilt ranked at the bottom the SEC beat of all on their home court and many walking out of that arena. Wondering about the future of Holly Warlick, of course, Holly Warlick took over for coach summit while when she stepped away due to illness, and all of course, all American at Tennessee under Pat summitt and her loyal assistant. John Adams writing today. Hey that that era should end. We'll talk to him about that coming up here in a couple of moments again your phone number. Your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. So we will be happy to talk to you love to hear from you. And let's start with Harry in New Orleans. Hello, harry. Welcome to the show. Harry there. Yeah. Thank you ball. I'm gonna be briefed as usual looks like my two favorite teams. I've been pulling fall year of coach Billy at Texas AM, and then my Dopp team as of late Alabama. We'll like I'm going to have to jump ship. But I'm just gonna put my vote in. I'm gonna go with the big blue in Kentucky to get that mile mile upset tomorrow. Yeah. I haven't seen any early lines. I suspect Tennessee will be a narrow favourite. Don't you? Yeah. I think belly very narrow. But just have a feeling that coach Cal and big blue a little battle-tested ball. And I think I'm going to have to slide that way, but anything could happen as we know. I'm still thinking about it. I mean a couple of weeks ago, I was convinced at Tennessee would win that game. But you have to have a little pause. I'm gonna I'm I will. Listen to the smartest people in the in the world, and those are the callers to the finebaum share today before making a determination. Listen to judge Greenbaum as well. Yeah. Yeah. He I am interested in what Seth thinks. I think there seems to be a rush over to the Kentucky side right now. But that's understandable, Kentucky's played played a extremely well in recent weeks. Do you think they will Ted more battle-tested, Paul? I don't know. I mean Tennessee's been on the road. They were LSU they were at ole miss. I mean, I don't think you can in in two weeks have any heavy tougher roads. And go to Rupp go to Baton Rouge and go to Oxford. I mean, that's a pretty tough run. Now, obviously, they both have played a pretty pretty good schedule Kentucky playing Duke and Carolina in the preseason. Tennessee playing Kansas in Gonzaga. I think it's pretty even myself. Oh one last question. Do the think Duke can can handle off Carolina on the rebound from that lasts loss. Well, I think it all depends on on where. Others I on his back or not I think without Zion. They are not very good team. I mean, a good team in terms of going far in the tournament, nor nor nor do I think they can be Carolina without him. I think he will. He will be Baxter that is simply an opinion. But that's that's what I believe. Hey, thanks for the call. Do appreciate it. Lewis is up next in Birmingham. Hello, louis. Go right ahead. Hey, follow. I just want to kill you. I don't know if you know think an Email was sent to your show, but wanted original from the Birmingham market Joe from trust will passed away about a month ago. No, I did not know that John was only fifty two years no man passionate album fan. Great father, married to the same woman for thirty years three great, son dot unexpected. He no, I didn't know that Joe is a he Joe had some pretty famous calls into the show. I'm really sorry to hear that. I don't know why we seem to be losing some really quality people from this program lately with with Tammy, of course, him Jim from Crestwood ad. I'm really sorry to hear. I did not. I didn't know that Louis really appreciate you sharing. My wife's brother degree on the football team. We didn't agree on the political party. But if you knew the man, you had a lot of respect for now we. We we had Noam out there who can forget the famous any Sheridan call. Yeah. You know, I was talking to share it or not long ago, and and he brought up that call. And and and I can't tell you how many times I've been with him or someone else when they didn't bring up the Joe from trustful call today, Danny it was it was epic to say the least. Paul. Thank you. Thank you. And and Louis please give my best to the family. I'm sorry. I didn't know that. But predate you're sharing it. Sure. Well, thank you. Good to have you on. Yeah. He's a. Yeah. Again, I understand maybe when somebody elderly passes away. But when somebody that young goes, it is extremely sad. Thank you for sharing that let's move along. Dwayne his in Kentucky on the air next. Good afternoon. Dwayne all doing we're doing great. Thank you. The first time caller person I ever got through anyone just really tried to call it costs about. But I just wanted to ask you, how do you think that's going to do this weekend or against LSU? I would suspect Alex who's going to win that game. I I think they're getting their their their one of their star players back. Alabama may still be shorthanded and no Alabama one big game on the road the other day. But I think beating LSU is another is another story. Yeah. Stand that. But who who was out? I'm trying to remember who got hurt in the South Carolina game. Dante hall. I think. Yeah. Well, really well. That's not good. But by the way, I may have that wrong. Let me let me double check. I just saw it a minute ago in my mind is is their players. They got hurt. I'll I'll I'll double check make sure I get it. Right. Make sure make sure I get the right player. I remember I was watching the game when he got hurt. I just can't remember his name at the moment. Clark is up next. Go right ahead car, you're on the air. I'll play it would lay before yesterday you were talking with somebody about the governor of Alabama, and he got Alabama and all were back together to play each other again after fail. Do not hear that wrong. Or where is that? Right. When did that happen? If she shed a little light on that for me. If I was days on Ingram is the player that I was thinking of I I was talking about what happened. I believe it was in the fifties. When when the maybe in the forties when the state legislature in Alabama mandated that Alabama and Auburn get back together again. Okay. Well, what what happened that they were part. I did I never did catch on that. What happened that they weren't? They play. Listen, you're pushing me a little bit beyond my realm of expertise, but the Syria brokered the series broke up at some point. I can't remember the year. There was a fight. There was there was some altercation. They quit playing each other. And then the game was was brought back if I remember correctly. Okay. And that might have been in the fifties. I'll double check on the year. I just can't quite remember the exact year. Okay. Thank thank you very much. Yep. Could break up against the break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We are back with more listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're with us. Eight five five to four to seven to eight five and Robison Elizabeth town, Tennessee. Are you doing I I'm caller here? Thanks for taking my call. You bet. Great to have you on. Hey, appreciate it would ask you what you think about Hollywood. I've been watching these lady vol's from Greece Nebraska, Athens, Georgia, and I've loved them around the world. But I just can't take watching them lose. Like they've been losing lately. How long before Genesee gets rid of Holly? And do you think they're going to go with another assistant coach or will? They put the money down in high ringer. Well, I watched the game last night. And it was inexcusable. I'm sorry. There are no there are no kind words to say about you can try to figure out what the problem is. There's a disconnect on that team. They don't seem to be listening to her. And if if players don't listen to head coach choices, you get rid of the players given the head coach exactly, and you could see it last night when they come out of time out. Girl. It's over. I mean, I don't care what anyone else in my mind. You can't you can't. I heard some commentators this morning saying, well, you know, they can still go to ole miss, and we know they can't. I mean the season's over. Let's let's. Pruitt or will they have no idea we're gonna talk about that in a minute with John Adams. I don't know films in a very awkward position. He's been there before and he's been friends with Holly for ever. And by the way, doesn't matter. Let's let's let's quit talking about what a great person. She if she is. But you can't coach. Okay. I agree. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. I mean, she can't coach you that this level to to win championships. And that's what she's hired to do. She she's done a credible job over the years in a very difficult position. I think a lot of people if there would would would have preferred maybe she announced today that she is going to step down. Nobody wants to see your fired. But there's virtually no chance this thing goes beyond next week. Ed is in Greenville Mississippi. Edgar right ahead. Thank you, Paul. Oh, you know, I've taught when you numerous times from time to time. We've always the question has always been brought up. What is? This show for it means so much to a lot of people Powell people that are disabled people that are all can't get out or or just the public in general because when you sit back and we hear the trials and tribulations that others go through how they overcome. It is surely as racial and take you for instance, when you, you know, I think it was to show you mentioned that your I, you know, man in your position to say that your first job was at McDonald's and tried as to what Paul know out side of that. And looking on the lighter side, you just didn't stay at McDonald's long enough. You know, why? No, please make me feel better you still three French fries shot a happy meal. Hey, all stay. Thank you. Thank you for the call. Yeah. Is one of those things you if you could change your life. You know, would you what would you have done differently at McDonald's? Thanks for the call Ted is in Columbia, Missouri. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Paul. I just wanted to say two things real quick why he you used to be on my local sports radio ESPN station, and they took you off or some other guy, and that really bones me out that car died, and I don't miss it near as much because I don't get to listen to you on the radio anyway. And also I was wondering if there's anything new on Missouri bowl van. I know that Missouri appealed wanted to deal still opinion. They've got a tougher to Hoed. Yeah. We're we're we're going to talk to the Missouri athletic director on Monday night on Monday afternoon. So hopefully, you you're able to either watch or pick up the show somehow, but we'll we'll get we'll see if we can get to the bottom of that Monday. When we talked to Jim thank you, very very much a great to have you on. Let's talk to Bruce in Florida. Bruce garage. I doing today we're doing great. Thank you. Thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to talk a little football too. You know, it's been a lot of basketball right now. But one thing that I'm encouraged about and I was thinking about the other day is with Dan mole, and, you know, Georgia this stoically they've always out recruited Florida coach coach Spurrier even talked about that when he was the head coach. But the the the way that coach Mullen develops players that's really encouraging to me and he's one of the best. I think. Don't you agree? Well, I don't think there's any doubt. I mean, I think Dan Mullen is on the the best offensive play cards in America. Well, I'm really give me a house thinking about the other day, and they really encouraged me a lot because I was looking at recruiting rankings, and of the classes we were behind him, of course. But it seems like Florida's had a knack for doing that for for a while. Now taking and developing talent, even though we're not having four and five star recruits all the time. Even these three stars can be developed if you work with them and took mall, and he he's really doing fine job. I think it's Florida now he's doing a great job. Well, thank you very much. Dan is in Louisiana, Dan. Nice of you to join us. Go right ahead. Thanks, Ron Paul. Thank you. I'm just looking forward to Mark you talking about March. You know, can't wait for the turnament. You know, if I agree with you. And I was just I remember a week or two ago. You were saying you tell me you tell Tennessee would be Kentucky. I did. And. And you know, I just think Kentucky's probably going. A probably going to make Tennessee. Yeah. I'm still in the bubble. I I still believe in this Tennessee basketball team. Even though I'm getting a little bit shake your every time. I see them play. Right. Well, and I was going to ask you, I do believe LSU's going to get a number one seed in SEC tournament and that with that determined the NC double A Sadie. No, the the the SEC tournament the seating. There will be the champion of the SEC the first four seeds. We'll get a double by. So that's really what you're trying to get in the tournament. In three of those positions are already been established. The the the the NCWA seeds are going to be based on on on on far more metrics right now LSU does not project to be number one seed, I don't know if if they win out in win the. The the SEC tournament would they be able to to make a top seed, maybe, but but they still have a lot of things overcome. Okay. Say I don't know. I guess it's just past perception. The the the term has a fairly convoluted complicated system of determining it seed. So. LA, hugh. I think right now is the three or four seat on the projection. But again, we have one regular season game excuse me, three regular season games. And then the tournament. I thank you, very very much. Good to have you on George is up next in Georgia. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Is that? Yeah. Yeah. George go. Right ahead. You're on the air. Okay. All right of let me finish. I pay. You said that a college team had never played an NFL team. And my right. Well, it me an actual team versus team. Okay. Yeah. Well, no, I mean there used to be there used to be an all star game. This was a team of college standouts nineteen sixty three all-stars. Yeah. The Green Bay Packers were defended by a college team. Yeah. No, listen there used to be the NFL season used to open. If I remember with with with a college all star game. I think it was in Soldier Field. And I don't know how the NFL team was determined. But yeah, I do remember reading about that. Well, I didn't know if they were recognized college, you know, they're not they weren't some patients. No what they were. I I it was it was a group of all stars before they went to their. I think it was before they went to their NFL team. Right. I'm not sure how it worked. But but it did. Lombardi was quite upset of any was. I mean, I watched that game. And is he? I appreciate you taking my call on. Well, thank you very much. I'm glad we got that cleared up. Fifty six years later, we are up against the break. John Adams will join us. We'll preview tomorrow's Tennessee Kentucky game. We'll talk about. How important it is for the for the vol's? Well, also, see what he has to say about the women's program in Knoxville. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back as we continue a lot to talk about with John Adams. We'll talk about the the lady vols situation in just a moment as we welcome John to the program. But but I the men can Tennessee's basketball homecourt help the valves makeup seventeen against Kentucky John Adams joining us. John thanks for the for the time. Let's start with the game tomorrow night since that is upbeat, and we are cheery network here. So let's talk about what's at stake for Rick Barnes team number one in the country for six weeks. And lately, it's just seems like everything is a struggle. Yes, it is. I mean, it's a tough game that Oxford. Oh, MRs a pretty good team to tough loss. Hugh again, K right in. But really the focus now is kinda make up. The point against in custody. Kentucky really manhood, Tennessee in Lexington. And I thought the crowd I've been a lot of games at referendum grid years. And I've never heard a louder more passionate crowd than that one. And I'd be interested to see a Tennessee can match that Saturday. John lot of theories on what's going on here. What is yours in relation to the the slide? And I and I say that I realized Tennessee has lost on the road to to the better teams around but still. Well, I Pol the team is lip so good in almost flawless report of the season that any Laos I think can can create concern. But. Yeah. Early in the season when you look at the schedule you need that could be a problem. The first thing that comes to mind for me is that Tennessee staff is okay when you're playing mediocre but worst team when you're playing the really elite teams like a Kentucky or like what LSU has become. I don't think Tennessee's backups can measure up in that becomes a problem. And so you have your your starters, your main guys pointing in a lot of minutes, and so in could have wearing data fit. That's that's the thing. When I look at this team. I wonder if maybe it's running out of steam a little bit will that will be determined tomorrow afternoon. And then Tennessee with two more games to go before heading to Nashville, John let me switch gears to what happened last night. I was watching the game right here on the SEC network. And I I guess I shouldn't have been surprised because this has been a program in turmoil for some time we've talked to you about it. And you had some pretty strong comments. Recently. But this was the low point of the season, and maybe of lady vols history, which prompted you to write a column that was just published on the Knoxville news sentinel website, and obviously a newspaper tomorrow why it's time for Tennessee lady vol's basketball to fire Holly warlike, you don't doesn't need much explanation. But I'll ask you to explain anyway. You you said it a you said he shouldn't have been surprised, but for all of Tennessee struggles this year all the games in which is under teeth. Honestly didn't think it was hot and anything specity punishable in supporting them. But I just didn't see it. How the possible for Tennessee on its home court to lose tha van Bill, which is almost twenty one games could win one game the conflict get lost eight games in a row in what you so challenged athletically N quickness. So that that just struck me. I just thought it was a low thought the twenty one point loss to Alabama was a was a low previously, but that's their past. And I guess, you know, you look back, and how can you lose to a team with that little talent compared to Tennessee, and you have a pattern here over nut. Not just games. But over Keith, we're Tennessee. Repeatedly under chase. It always a handful of all Americans at least, and it just doesn't measure up to that recruiting billing, and you wonder you you get the players change. And we had diamonds she'll for Sadi's Wessel, Jamie Dard in that team under teeth. Now, you have a whole new group really and mainly sophomore freshman team, but it's underachieving even more. So and in the common denominator there is coach. And I just think at some point you just oh it to your fans to the program's history. You need to make a change. And it's not just about wind and losses. It's about how this team performs on the court. It just looks like it sometimes it it's never played together. It'll look so poorly coached the players don't have much basketball savviness at all. It's just a really bad luck. And I just think Tennessee fad. Better than that. John when you were here, I don't know three or four weeks ago. And this was a hot button item. You made some comments about in the administration at Tennessee, not really demanding a an elite program. I understood what you were saying, but there's a difference between competing for championships in losing to a team like Vanderbilt last night. Do you think anything has changed? I don't know Paul, but it should have. That's exactly what I'm looking at. I mean what thing. Okay, you're not living up to pass standards of a really story procam. You're not going to file for and all that stuff dot competing for championships. But even if you're not willing to go out and get a coach with the final four national championship. Whereas about pay that kind of money at least get a coach who will bring out the best in the players who will seemingly motivate them, and who will demand that they the least execute the basic funding Bill in your Jack like right that that was like a drop off their pets that's way below the competing for championship blind. And I I just think Tennessee Philip former the AD he needs to look at that in really see what's going on with the program. I heard from some people today in you've heard from far more than I have the that there. There's a hope that Holly wore liquid will take the initiative, and and go to fill up or someone say, listen, let's figure out a way to get out of this mess, and and I'm going to step down. I mean, I know that sounds great in theory. But this is a big time operation here. Do you? Do you see playing out like that? Or you think when the tournaments over next week or at some time before they go to her. Well, here here's a way to do it. I mean, you can. Yes. It's really semantics you're you're firing coach. But you go to her and say Holly. If you resign here will be the settlement. You'll resign. We'll move on. And and make it maybe easier for her. I think that would be the way to go about it. Then one thing I remember about Holly Warlick is she really never perceived head coaching jobs. She was a long time assistant UT in didn't have a lot of ambition about being a head coach she was really content here. And she was an integral part of Pat summitt staff for many years. She was Pat summitt point guard. And I remember the last season when Pat was coaching and that was extraordinarily difficult because Pat was not anywhere near one hundred percent the Alzheimer's was already evident effect, but she was still coaching. And she was on the big, and she was head coach at least in title, but Holly was really having to run the team, and she was also having in a way to kind of help manage Pat because a a very vicious disease. And I just thought she did a remarkable job because she's not just dealing with their boss. She's dealing with a very close friend. And I thought it was just an extremely difficult thing to get through. And she did that. And I think I think most fans really like Holly warning. They really do. She's a very likable person when the most likeable coaches I've ever been around, but they're just comes to time. When you got to it the wins and losses and what's going on with the program can make a change. And that's what they'll appointment needs. Did it John Adams many? Thanks, john. Appreciate it. Look forward to seeing you soon and talking more about this. Another subjects. Thank you for being on. Thanks, paul. John Adams area. A poignant comments about his column. Calling for the end of the hollow. Hollywood. Like, Erin, I I think as I heard him talk about it. It's impossible not to be incredibly sad. I've known Holly for many many years in consider her a wonderful person, and a friend, and I think everyone who knows or feels the same way. But I think you also have to accept the reality of the situation. And what we saw last night. Sadly is the reality of the situation. We are coming back to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living, most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when an in a most nesting dole, his the geiko not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer pity in a most nesting Dollond her lot in life. And anything else we we'll talk to Seth Greenberg in the next hour as well. Do Wayne is up next. What do you say Dwayne? Oh, yes. Go right ahead. This wind from not so long, sovereign volunteer fan. How are you doing? Great dwayne. Thank you very much. I was I can't agree with you more on Tennessee. The why they the really hard to believe in over the last five games they seem to win away from what they've received successful early in the season what runoff Instagram Williams. So he's like they've given up on that rather quickly lightly. Do you agree with that what you're saying? But I'm I just think tomorrow is is is the line of demarcation for them. And I try to look at it. I'm gonna move the game at Rupp out of the way because I think that was just an extraordinary circumstance there. I want to look at where else should they? What else are they done the LSU game? Probably should have won the game. They were in a great position to win. They didn't the onus game. They probably show a loss the game. So that even doubt. So I'm I'm I'm not going to get hung up on micromanaging in the middle of the season to me the season cliche here. But I'm gonna say it anyway begins tomorrow. If I if Tennessee loses tomorrow, I think the confidence is going to start escaping the the bubble, and and I'm I'm not gonna feel overly confident. But let's see how they play tomorrow. Yeah. I agree with you on that point completely. The the the last three games of they've just totally different than they did the rest of the season. And you know, you expect to see you know, going from twentieth. Sister game to ten or eleven is to game, you know. And we that's we are an assist team completely. We're we're not a one on one thing that I'll if we can say me play that way, it's going to be a quick exit in March. And I think that's what you need to get around. And you know, whether what people say doesn't really matter that much, but you don't want to go into the tournament. With a lot of negativity basketball is is a game where a lot of it is in your head. And I it's not just a lineup and the dirt and try to beat the other guy. There's there's a lot of sophistication in nuance. That goes into to college basketball. He thank you very much very much for the call. Really do. Appreciate it. Let's check in with Billy in Kentucky on the air next. Go right ahead. Billy. Hey, Billy, go right ahead. All right, man. What's going on? We are doing great. Thank you. Tomorrow get their conducted in say game. I was a as only now you're talking about here. Well, I mean, we we surely have a lot to say about it earlier in. I'm I'm I'm still gathering up as much information as possible. I think I think pretty obvious that the confident team is Kentucky, don't you agree. Okay. Obviously, you do agree. John is up next in California. John you're on the air. Go right ahead. Thank you for calling. We're doing well. Thanks a lot. Okay. Paul. I I know you've spoken to coach Wightman Gorda the other day. Yes. Yeah. Florida. It's been on a roll from the last of any divide game way. Yeah. They've won five in a row. Yeah. And they play Georgia at home Saturday, if we were to win with Georgia, and you're going to be tough went against those you at home. But then we play Kentucky. Let's that. We lose those two we go into the tournament is their chance from what you see that. Brought it can make it to maybe inside that make it inside the tournament. Listen, Florida is is is is doing what you want to do John. You you want to start playing your best basketball now when we had coach wide on about a week ago. He was feeling really good. But he, but he he was he was in fatty about not getting caught up with getting beyond what's in front of him. I think tomorrow it will get to six and the next week. I mean, you just want to try to. I mean, I think LSU is you ever shot at LSU at home. You beat them on the road. And you take confidence in Nashville you're in the tournament. Now, you weren't in the tournament a week or two ago, and and you're just trying to with every game cliche again, but improve your seed. So you don't have an impossible task in the second round of the tournament. I agree. Well, I just wanted to get your point on that. And see what we stood in regard to because they've been placing excellent often, finally, and Jalen. Been playing super which is what we needed down the, you know, exactly what you just said. It's not how you start. It's how you finish with people. I mean, listen, I'm I'm kind of from the school the getting in the tournament should not be celebrated nor should getting in a bowl game. It's what you do in March not what you do leading into March. And and if you're Florida the reason why the seeds matters, you you don't wanna be stuck down there nine ten or even eight for that matter. And the reason why if you're eight seed you're playing a nine believe in the opening round. And then you're playing the number one seed, that's that's a that's a recipe for disaster. Yeah. I agree. Getting to revere to watch the tournament right at the Matt Kuchar incident, I can tell you being a witness there at the tournament. There were very little coups at the end of the day. Interesting. Yeah. Emmy here here, you have one of the most popular golfers in the world and for a small amount of money for him not for us. But for him it it it it helps. I it's a great lesson there in I think about it. Sometimes you're you're out. You're you're you're grumpy. I mean, just be kind other people if they if they if they do something for you, it may boomerang on your. We're coming right back.

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Hour 4: 3.27.19

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Hour 4: 3.27.19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast those hands catching up tater. I just got old tease, man. I've been coming into the show for years infiltrating the tea's like an infectious disease, the slowly but surely is to couple shots here. And there that was fantastic. A big show today. Holly Warlick where the news almost as soon as we started the show. Holly Warlick was out as the head coach the lady vol's at the university of Tennessee seven years made the tournament every year felt like an erosion was happening as the years went on you look at the numbers and listen to any other school any other coach this is certainly not going to have you dismissed. But in the case of Holly Warlick who born in Knoxville played at Tennessee set records that stood she had the single season steals record that things stood alw- until just the last few years. And obviously she played. Four Pat summitt, she coach underpass summit, and and took over the program after the tragic loss of Pat summitt, and it's a set it early in the show, and I'll continue to say it, all Tennessee, volunteer shift forever. Be grateful and thankful for Harley Warlick taken that torch after her friend and mentor and coach passed away and help with the program. Stay afloat. We also had news down road and Tuscaloosa, Alabama got him a head basketball coach, and as the athletic director egg burn will do he kinda snuck the news in the back door tweeted himself. That's how the news broke NATO tes been up at the university of buffalo for the last four years. Three out of those four years took them to the NC double A tournament back to back MAC titles back to back mat coach of the year wards as I mentioned a three tournaments and he got into the second round the last two years. He was an assistant coach they're hired. After almost a dozen years coach high school ball, and a toy was hired by Bobby Hurley was his right hand man, and what Bobby Hurley left. Arizona state NATO took over that program and took it to newer heights. And oh, by the way, also beat his former boss, so the state earlier this year, and I've said this all throughout the show, and I will continue to say it. I know Alabama fans were holding out hope. That they were going to have some future hall of Famer that we already know is going to be in the hall of fame taking the job a name coach. Is a good heart. The basketball people the one selling us at Pat forty join us earlier who he went crazy over the higher Dino Neal's going to join us in a little bit of Nath let I know she's going to dig it to the real basketball people, including coaches who've been texted earn show say, man. That's a good hire here. So that's all I gotta go. Chris was on the line Christmas up. Chris key. Can you hear me? Yeah. Man. What's up? Well, Ron McGee to host of Mardian with G favorite shows are present that they're Ivanhoe. I'm driving home today. Listen to the podcast, mardi McGee from sat there you. Go your best friend, Chris. I turn the turn the TV on. There's rhyme McGee. Yeah. Do I'm everywhere. You were talking y'all. We're talking some crazy stuff. And I love it. Because you know, what you over talking about a guy from Kentucky Cohen in us in about. I'll talk about do can UNC say, nobody cares. Listen, you know? I got I got mardi talkin about PIN in the wind come home. And that's the great stuff ever. Hayes who wasn't to call in and started banging on us for nothing. You know, we have to do our friend Vernon Kentucky aren't. Yeah. We're gonna play for you a clip Vernon called back and telling you Bernie Bernie Bernie Bernie. Yeah. He we're gonna play this clip for you later in the show this hour on you'll enjoy it very much. Okay. All right, Chris. Yeah. Was verdict. We played Vernon's clip on Marty McGee him complaining about us. Not just about Kentucky basketball team. And then I got Marty talking about he don't have his watch seat. Woomera all me, I'm going to good old country. Blue like y'all at cracks me up because I just bought a new truck. I'm driving down the road the other day. And my wife says my ass is hot excuse me. I can say that you want and I'm like, well, I don't know what's going on. She's like all it's just hot. And I'm like, well, push some buttons. I mean, he'd secret out driving drunk cracking me. Yeah. Y'all greg. I'm here for my show and talking some good. I don't really care. I usually tell the finebaum show and talk about sports. But no, I don't like country redneck stuff y'all opposite. Chris you're the man, you're you're you are what we call the target audience and percents call I'm gonna call you on Saturday morning do Nabi. I will be disappointed. If you don't. All right. Well, y'all have a great day brother you too. There you go. That's so Hayes. I sat in here Thursday last week, and the very first caller it said exactly like like did just innocent mardi McGee. And I thought you know, what I'm gonna take this call. And this guy was gonna talk about me and Marty on Saturday mornings right here on C network, and is going to say how awesome. We are. He did not it was. And he was so crooked us that we continue to play a week later. We played it Omar Neil Saturday morning. Yeah. This is what happened. I think it was Monday Ryan. So you had your experience with with Vernon. We all got a chuckle out of it. You won't believe Bernie or Vernon. We're not sure yet how he treated Paul as well. Can history to bluest programs in the country. Kansas contest, I'm not going back in history. I'm talking about twenty nineteen twenty not paying Vernon Vernon. With the Verney with an OEM at the end. Let me tell you something. The biggest rivalry in college basketball. The two most recognized teams outside of Lexington Kentucky are North Carolina and Duke, you can go anywhere in the country. And that game is the most watched game. It's the most anticipated game that vets not verte. I'm just telling you Bernie. I'm just telling you that you're wrong. Well, I'm telling you, you're oh, well, I'm telling you that you're wrong. Well, okay. You're wrong. You. You're hearing here. Long Vernon you. You're from Kentucky and your buys your advice. Why am I bias 't because you live Dan show? Why would I you should be? What does it matter? We're live. Okay. Over there under ACC. Hey, Bernie, can you give me a reason why not Bernie Paul will burning? Let me ask you this. Your name's not burning. No, it's burnin. Well, listen, Bernie, let me say one more thing to you may not Bernie your name is Bernie, according to buy board here. Well at golden court corna my driver's license. It's Bernie pro proven. I'm of it you prove it ain't. You prove it. Vernon's been back since she talked to the last week, and he's become quite the character on the show. It's every dude that I went to high school with you. You make me do that. By the way, we mardi begins on Saturday more than we need that clip for ourselves. Well, these note that our honor was defended right here in this chair. That's right heard. It was. Hey, there's another Vernon sitting here is not that Vernon is Vernon from Florida. What's up burning? I'm I'm sorry. Have that first name? No. It's all right now you really early right now. I'm really not the same person you can say Vernon's a couple of things I've been listening for a couple of hours vehicle now at home. You're doing a great job. Take you out pretty number number two, the Holly Wunderlich coach at Tennessee. Got let go. Yep. I'd like to see Florida. Hi, hers assistant coach, I think the women's basketball program might need some of that experience from the southeastern conference. And here's my last thing in I'm probably got lucky no offense. But I probably got lucky to get in today because you're hosting show. But I'm gonna I'm gonna let it go. Anyway, I've got a Frank boils imitation. I would like to lay on you. And see what you think? Okay. Okay. I'm gonna set this up. This is. Frank boils talking to keep Jackson about Herschel. Walker betty. Yep. Keith this man Waqa. He's a two hundred twenty five pound player. Keith he runs like a hundred eighty five found me. I can't believe it. I like it. That's all. That's all. I got not all like taking me back a lot of people try to imitate Frank Royle's. But I've always tried bed. Fantastic. And the I'll someone Arkansas heard debt because that was a that was better than most of the ones people try to throw him in. And when I'm in favorable, so good job. Well, I appreciate that. And I enjoy what you're doing man. You got a good show and your other show with that other guys. Good good show to his name. Sorry. That's no you people. Use more go read the red head guy. Yeah. We used to call Gordy south Bridget. I've aren't enough think you say you say ferns so good job. Thank you Bye-bye. There you go. I I gotta be honest with I feel like I say this ever told him in this chair because they do I didn't know when I came here today that I was going to hear so and so off certainly did not know that I was going to hear a Frank roles in person, by the way. Whoever hires Harley Orleans. That's going to be a great heart to be a great higher. I think she'd done all she can do at Tennessee. But she knows the game. She knows how to recruit she she. She knows how to win which by the way, she's still one. It just wasn't at the level program was used to so. Yeah, if you got a head coaching job available. Hollowell? It would be a decent better than decent heart. So I would have. Said give out shot. A hindrance on a line. From Knoxville what's up hitting? Hey, how you doing today, man? I just wanted to be I walked all the time. And I walked in the Dan turn you on. And I've been watching and I've seen it was about of tenure team coaches and stuff. And if you don't mind, I like, if you can get the time to go back over who got fired and who got hard and all that stuff. And now hang up and say all I have to say go all yes. There you go. GB? Oh, right now, listen just to give you the quick recap right there. In Knoxville where you are Harley Warlick is out as the head coach of the lady vol's, certainly not unexpected I think but still difficult for the people that are involved with people who love that program. Holly included Arkansas still looking for a head coach. After Mike Anderson was out, we started the show a couple of hours ago with an emotional statement from him in. Oh, by the way, Alabama went and got themselves a head coach, and I'm gonna make you work, Google, oats and buffalo, and you'll learn all you need to know about him because I feel like I've been reading his resume all day, but I'll say it to call somebody who knows college hoops way better than I do a former co worker, Dino Neal is gonna join us to talk about all the moving into shake in hoop. And it's the Paul finebaum show. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back everybody. It is. The Paul finebaum show. I'm Ryan McGee. So I think I told him hamstring playing an immediate softball game over the weekend. That's why keep if I look comfortable. Because comfortable, but I'm not comfortable with you guys. Give me a call eight five five two four to seven to eight five of certainly not uncomfortable with all the March basketball that also the March basketball news to discuss that we bring in a former co worker Dana nail from the athletic Dana, how you doing. And get them out. Right. I hope you take care that hamstring. You know, you can't let these things go. Well, instead of cover basketball, Saturday a plate in a media softball game. A pretty sure of fruit. All I don't think. That's basically what I'm old and sedentary. So that's not should be planning media softball games. So. Where are you right now? I can't keep trying to wear you are either actually. But currently I am in Louisville Kentucky at the last. I checked that's where I was. I woke up to twenty. I think that's where I'll be tomorrow morning as well. So plan the time of year when you wake up and you look at the phone next to the hotel bed because you've not to town you're in. Yeah. Absolutely. I've been there. Well, we have Pat forty on earlier. And obviously we talked about this throughout the show today. But this Sweet Sixteen very chalky as they say, I mean, a lot a lot of really small numbers next to those names. What are your feelings about this week sixteen that doesn't have sister Jean or doesn't have Davidson does it have any of that in there? I think, you know, look, I mean, we all enjoy those stories because they're kind of I don't know. Unexpected and exciting and fun. I was there in Florida Gulf Coast. It's thing in Philadelphia. We all enjoyed since gene last year is kinda what March madness is all about. But if you look at these games as a pure basketball fan, and you look at the match up we've got coming up here this week and then going. Forward through the weekend. I mean my goodness hurt. There's some really good teams with some really great game. So mature basketball standpoint, you can't really be disappointed. I just you know. Of course, we all root for the dog when we can no, of course. Well before we get to really dig into the tournament. I want to ask you about NATO tes. But that news broke just shortly not too long ago after we started this show, obviously, it's five bomb shows a lot of reaction here. What was your reaction when you saw that higher? I that was a slam dunk of a higher by Greg Byrne because listen halos is going to be on. Everybody's sort list is here. I mean, essentially is based on what he's done at buffalo. He's you know, rejuvenated that program they were legit top twenty five team pretty much all season. He was going to be the guy from that level. If you will that somebody was going to land in Alabama a team that you know, let's face. It hasn't really moved the needle at basketball landed him. I I think speaks volumes to what Greg Berg once that program to be and what it potentially. You can't be. So I thought I think that's a big statement by Greg Byrne and by Alabama about what they're going to do with basketball down there. It's a great hire. It's what he does. We don't know what he's gonna do until he tweets, which is that's a that's a good athletic director right there. Right. I mean, nobody can keep a secret and Greg bird certainly can dang. It's for us. That's a that's how about that. So. Well, the until tournament you're in Louisville. Tell me what we're going to see about what? But when we check back in with you on Monday, what will have happened their view level. Well, look, I preface by saying that since October my national championship game has been good zag versus Tennessee. I'm very grateful to the selection committee for allowing that to stay alive the bracket. So, you know, look, I'm all in Tennessee. I have been I visited them a lot this year. And I just just so impressed. You know, I o game was fanny with their intelligence with their toughness with their experience. I just thought that's all the intangibles that you need also been you count in the number of great players. They have on that team. So I just feel like you know, what that's that's a t-. I I have loved his October. I think they're gonna come outta here. But you know, what Virginia look I mean, we've all talked about the UNBC tiller ready to throw up, but they've obviously put that that to rest, and that's a really good basketball team. I mean, I think that there could be a formidable opponent because they now have got past that I feel like I don't know. There's always a freedom to it. Right. There's a freedom to like, all right. We got past this now with can we do and the scene is much better off entity the Andre hundreds of. Great player that they haven't had to but didn't play last year. I think that makes a unique unique team in this region down here in listen in having covered that you'd be game a year ago. Like, I did a felt like it was kind of good for them to go through that first half regarding to web getting this Bill cathartic, they finally broke through in the second half. I agree with you. I think like look I mean, I think I think everyone expects it come out that the win to leave the first half are like seventy points. Right. That's what we all do. And the fact that they didn't I think it kind of was like all right. We got that out of our system a little bit. Let's let's actually go play basketball little bit the Kentucky. Wildcats the they're they're playing it very close to the vest was a superstar who showed up for an interview today without a cast on and suddenly had won only again later. How do you? There's still a one point favor or three point favorite in that game. How do you feel about the Wildcats with or without Washington in the lineup? But I mean, I think they meet him. Look Houston is has been sort of. I don't know under. Served all season long. I mean, this is Kelvin Sampson, isn't it amazing job with that program? They are tough and fast is going to the dentist and you're not gonna play a game. That's pretty to watch. But they are going to ugly it up and make it hard for Kentucky with or without PJ Washington in the lineup. But look, I think they really need him. I mean if not for anything else for their psyche right to have him in there. And know that he's the presence. I'm not sure what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing with them. I was surprised that he ended up with a with a hard cast to begin with to be honest with these now that it's off on again. I'm not really sure even how that works. But I think that's gonna be a tough a tough game for Kentucky, regardless just because of the way Houston is kind of playing like defensive vice a little bit nog Ruth a LSU toe cathartic sitting in this studio a week ago watching that first round game. And I'm so impressed with what the remaining staff is doing to to kind of in that team looks relieved to me to not have to answer questions about the. FBI? How do you feel about this LSU team? Yeah. I, you know, I think they've got this great attitude of you know, they know look it's us against the world. I mean, most people probably who care about such things don't really wanna see LSU win. They that's how they're playing it. Right. That they know that everyone is reading against them because of what's happened with. We'll wait. And so that's a great thing to have in your hip pocket. When you when you're looking for something to motivate, you not that you need it. But it's an extra push that you can have in his NCAA tournament at LSU in Kuwait. I mean, I don't care who their head coaches. You look at Nausori. You look at devante fart. You look at to out waters. I mean, that's a really good talented team that it's not their smoke and mirrors. They deserve to be doing what they're doing. And I think honestly, I think that that's sort of their attitude right now, we belong here. Nobody wants us here. So let's go out, and let's just take everybody off or we're doing this tour of the SEC in the Sweet Sixteen which means we have to go to Pearl and Auburn, which is this is the team and coach that I know you spill. Tom around and a lot of different tenures over the last over the last decade or so how do you feel about this team? I keep picking against them. And they keep wanting to ball games you need both. I mean, honestly, I went to the SEC tournament thinking like this is going to be a debacle and then is going on in Mexico state against New Mexico state. I was at that game. They had this single worst three minutes of college basketball, maybe in the history of running. But, you know, New Mexico state said, you know, what we can do you one better. I mean, that's to me. But I feel like they're. I don't know there. I think the Sweet Sixteen is broken up into teams that had a lot of pressure at teams that are playing with house funny. I put Auburn in the house money territory. Nobody really expected much kind of fell apart. They weren't living up to expectations now here they come. They got attitude. They got energy if they can shoot like they'd been shooting. They can hit threes. I they are going to be a really tough out 'cause Villanova has taught us anything is that he hits threes can win a national championships. So I would discredit them at your own peril for Dino new joining us and athletic. They not get you outta here on this right at the start of our show in was made official there. Holly Warlick was out at Tennessee. You know this. I'm a Tennessee grad. I will forever be thankful for how she handled it almost impossible situation when you look back on Holly seven years at Tennessee. What will you think of I that's it? I mean, listen, I mean that was it's always difficult. To replace anyone that's alleged anywhere. And there is no greater legend in women's basketball. And really, honestly and all of basketball, you know, you could put you can put Pat summitt at the top of both Louis bend women's. I don't care what you're talking about to come into that circumstance to handle that the way she did with Grayson dignity. Tennessee owes her a thank you and for service. Well, performed I mean, I get it things happened. People don't win. I understand the business of that naive. But man, like, you know, what that was impossible. And and she deserves all the credit, and I hope they're kinda see fans will always feel indebted to her for how she handled all that don't O'neil. It's always ready to talk to you. Don't get to do enough. Thanks for joining us anytime. Ryan, thank you for having me. Absolutely. No. It's. I'm just saying that data Neal award winning National Basketball Ryder agrees with everything I've already said today. So I'm just going to brag about that Vernon you listening. It's the five ball show. I'm Ryan McGee sit in for Paul. We are we're about to take the white flag. That's the last lap for for what y'all for those of you. Don't watch racing to give us a call eight five five two four to seven to eight five. Two and listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Everybody. Welcome back to the Paul finebaum show. Ryan Mckee sitting in for Paul. I got a tweet as much as that's a millennium. Falcon time. Don't feel bad. If you didn't know that because mortgage. No, it would you say Markey says like the D says that star to death's door come on son. Well, look, I mean, look at I'm looking at it. Okay. Well, it looks like it could be the blueprints for the death star in. Now, you hold it up like that. Now, I see. I was just trying to fly mytalk across TV. I've owned a lot of pain medication because his hamstring thing. I feel like I might be impeding. My four progress today. If you want to call me, do it or us. Yeah. Torma hamstring playing an immediate softball game. I should've said she goes great picture me. Look like a really old man pitching in that softball game. I did not tearing my hamstring pitching a tour after a base lap. Hit a grounder thou trying to beat out. I m beat it out, by the way. Actually, what the second because as will happen in media softball games. Catch outdoor the first and throw it down the right field line. But I think it's a double in the in scorebook. Lines are loaded but call anyway, eight five five two four two seven two eight five eight five five two four two Paul Don in Hazel, North Carolina's online was going on. Thank you, very. Then I'm hanging out. I thought I'd throw that in. There's a lot of today percents. Hey, no problem. Listen, you know, I've heard the conversation about Holly Warlick. And I thought you did a great job. It just looked like at the end of the year that the kids weren't just playing for anymore. It just seemed like there's a detachment there. And you know, I if it was kind of sad to see that. Because I thought she did a great job. But I was thinking what your opinion would be on someone that might be a great replacement for well in the good news is the bad news is Holly has gone to good news is is that this legacy of lady vol's basketball. There are so many tremendous candidates out there. I mean, there's so many former players that are still in the coach profession, and why is because the some now I have also heard the name Jeff Walz in Louisville mentioned a lot. And quite frankly, I thought Mitch and maybe too much while Holly still had a job. But but that's those. The names that you're going to hear you're going to hear the names of of these women who played for coach summit all over the place. Kelly Harper is the name that I come back to a lot. You know, she's at Missouri state now, and and she was tremendous guard for coach summit, and and I think maybe is the right age certainly has had the right success in LA tournament. But but yeah, I gave it to you. I haven't looked. But I guarantee you the Knoxville news sentinel probably got a list right now. I got a couple of thoughts and they haven't been in the coaching around. But there tremendous players both at Tennessee and into WNBA. And that's one of them is Candace Parker. Oh, yeah. I've heard the other day that she's very articulate seems like she'd be a great coach. Of course, she was under summit when there's so well tells us I mean, she's so good as an analyst. Yeah. And then that just means you'll be great coach. I know and then Cairo Lawson what do you make of her? Oh, absolutely. Well it again. And I'll say this to you know, as I've thought a chip Kelly about this when chip was working with us at ESPN. And then he went back to UCLA. Now, let's forget his record year ago because he's cleaning houses starting over. But I was there an advantage to sitting at the desk and watching games on the weekends. And he said there is a thirty thousand foot perspective of the sport. That's hard to get when you're so deep down in the middle of it all the time. So yeah, no, no, no, I like both those plus there's just there's just I mean, you wanna be tied. To the glory days. And you want to be tied back to Pat summitt. You certainly not going to go wrong with wallows higher. So. Yeah. But to get news is this is a really long list of candidates is interesting because it's the head count the opposite problem or the opposite deal with football. There really wasn't a Phillip Fulmer coaching tree that we had there wasn't. And you couldn't go back and get just go get Tennessee guy. But in the case LA there, the plenty of Tennessee lady vol's out there to grab at all. I can say is go men's basketball team. Yeah. Allstate, Switzerland Saint? That's right. Don, appreciate the call Emba. Yeah. No, no. It's. It's an interesting. It's a good problem to have is that there are so many like I a joke about the Knoxville news sentinel, but ESPN dot com to right now, as I speak, I'm taking for a fact the list is being put together and the problem with putting a list of potential lady, volunteer coach Candice together is paring it down. Because there are so many good coaches at so many schools that played for coached under an all of the above Pat summitt, Mike in Tennessee is on the line. Michael up. Hey, Mr. Greg. How are you? I'm good. What's going on first time, caller and joy, your mardi McGee show Saturdays and just had a quick couple of any Bill questions. First of all if you heard anything about. Possible replacements for Bryce drew. And number two. The do you have any idea who's going to be the quarterback replacing? Our former star this year. I do not know on the quarterback deal. But I'm going. I'm really really curious I guess Vandross spring game is on our air. It's on SEC network on Saturday. I have not had a chance to pay much attention to those guys being completely honest because a basketball, but I will be watching that spring game. We'll Saturday curious to see as far as a replacement to be the head men's basketball coach Johnny Dawkins name was coming up a lot even before what happened against Duke on Sunday. So I would be Nabis. Listen docket. This is if veterans willing to pay for it, but I think Johnny Dawkins would be I mean, that's a pretty smooth transition going from coach K at Duke to to be in there at Vanderbilt. Will. I haven't heard any any any news from down there. And just wondering if they're going to do the. Decision pretty soon or or what? Well, I think I think it's coming soon. And it was funny. I always compared to like if you do a fantasy football nobody drafts a kicker, and then as soon as somebody drafts kick, everybody's ass kicker. When out the Alabama job is full and Greg Byrne kinda snuck it in the back door. I wouldn't be surprised if we have an Arkansas announcement very quickly and advantage international. Very quickly tech him announcement pretty quickly. I think once that first job was filled in the conference. I think they'll all be filled pretty quick. Well, he know one thing money's not a question. Then there is no. It's not appreciate the call, Mike. Yeah. That's the good news for for all these programs is. There is a little money. So good for them Laron Orlando's online Lehrer was up. Hey, how you doing Ryan? Thank you for taking my call. I shit. Sure. Been a been a central Florida resident or about twenty nine years, Alabama, grad class eighty seven and never had anything against UCF. But in the last year, so with all the hoopla that they've gone through with the national championship in the football. And then the basketball the other day get a little soured on on the UCF situation. And you know, I'm all for teams winning and and doing well, but I gotta listen to it not only on the local radio stations here. But I listened to it from my friends and just you know, it's kind of getting old, and you know, it's nice to win. But you gotta be humble at the same time. So you know, just wanted to give my two cents in about that. And you know, I I hope you know, they have success for. The day winning. And you know, that's really kind of what I wanted to say. And also wanted to just say hope all the SEC teams that are still in the tournament have great success going forward. And that's about it. And I appreciate you taking my call. Yeah. Larry, good luck. Good deal with all his Golden Knights on their. Thank you. It's we should get Larry. And was the guy's name sleepy. Steve boz. Close. Jimmy Jimmy, Jimmy. We did he get Jimmy get those guys get the first coffee. Maybe maybe he can counter there's not a lot of intensity by can counter each other. Anyway. I said why flag lap earlier. Now, it really is. If you're going to get on this show, you better. Call eight five five two four to seven to eight five. The award winning final segment final full segment of the Paul finebaum show is coming up. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back to the Paul finebaum show. We're told a little golf with the with the apostles in the control room. I yeah. I I like I when I play a lot of golf, which I don't anymore because I have I had a daughter does into that. But I used to play a lot, and we would just say. It matter how you played loans. You look good. So my bag look tricked out, my bag had everything every awesome towel. I'd like a Saint Andrews bag tag. Although I've never been there. But my college roommate wind got one. Yeah. Get your name embroidered on the side. That's what the say he I looked like Paul Azinger, and I played like one of his kids back when you how long ago was that. I play because pausing was the man Buckton. We're talking about golf, by the way in the mystical magical TV only part of the show with play this weekend. In the masters coming up. I can always tell them the masters. You're coming up because my. Next door. 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Hour 1: SEC Women's Basketball Media Day

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Hour 1: SEC Women's Basketball Media Day

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Taking a look in talking to the media, we'll be joined by a bunch of different of the head coaches. We'll also have no Fortner in Andy Landers up here to talk a little women's hoops is, you know, you're coming off of his season in women's hoops. We had seven teams make the tournament Cammisa sippy state rebuil- South Carolina do it as well. We'll have Holly Warlick to talk about her Tennessee volunteers as well. But as always we'll take your phone calls about anything in anything. SEC related eight, five, five, two, four, two. Paul is number that's eight, five, five, two, four, two, Paul, and you can hit me up on Twitter at Peter burns ESPN let's get into some of the headlines as we look into this week. Eight of college football and are there Nick Sabin sans? Devante Smith hasn't practiced this week. Due to the Hammy. Now, of course, the this is the third weekend in October, and you know what that means. That means it's Tennessee in Alabama week. Now that game looks a little bit different with the way the Tennessee played last week in getting that w over the Auburn Tigers. And so now the question is going forward with the big game looming down in Baton Rouge in two weeks. What is dick saving do with guys that are a little bit NICD up now for devante Smith. This is not a situation where it's like, hey, you only have Calvin Ridley, right? I mean, you've got rugs, you've got Jerry Judy. You have enough playmakers that you should be okay against Tennessee, but then guess what Jerry pro. It probably doesn't think that's going to be the case. The other big thing too is we'll talk about to what should Nick Sabin do with two. Now, I know what Chad Moore's wants to do with his quarterback. He wants ties story to play and he is indeed on track to play against toll. So the Arkansas quarterback cleared for practice this week, and this team has looked a lot different in the last. Couple of weeks. I think when they were trying to figure out what was going to happen with coal, Kelly or Thais story, they didn't really know what direction Moore's was going to go in once tie became the starting quarterback. Stolley started seeing what we were thinking. We were going to get to see from Arkansas football and that was a little bit more success, especially offensively. In fact, if you look at what type story was able to do in the last two weeks when he was healthy before you got injured against ole miss it in the Bama game, he was completing sixty nine percent of his passes. So that's one of the guys that there hope in the Chad Moore's can get that w. against Tulsa, and he's hoping more importantly that they can use this as a catalyst going forward good recruiting class for him, and they are hoping that this year listen, it's years zero situation for probably him in Tennessee, right for Jeremy Pruitt. They're hoping that they can take a little bit one step further this year in build upon it for Arkansas. I think the bowl opportunities are or not going to be in the cars and not going to happen this year. But for. Tennessee, even if they lose to Alabama this weekend, they're still an opportunity with their schedule to run the table and we'll get into that a little bit later. Eight, five, five, two, four, two. Paul is the phone number. Let's go out to Miami Brian. They should join a Peterborough Sando. Paul finebaum show what's up. App Nemeth to burn fat. How doing? Well, man? Hey, listen basketball season. Roland we've got, you know, women's hoops we've got in week of college football. So we're in a good spot right now. My man. I just want to say, you know, auburn's football team this year, particularly. I've seen third grade fire drills more coordinated than particularly the offense. And my question is, I know Jordan Rogers that tweeted out about it, you know about the predictability of their personnel, and I saw a tape the other day where coach crew on the sideline on auburn's last offensive drive, and he was calling right where it was going, why do they not make adjustments then how do they overcome this? Especially since they paints a coordinator to my knowledge, it's demographic believe that old miss, hey, worked with miles on. So you know he's gotta be expecting it right up straight. Yeah, Ryan. That's interesting because whenever he was asked a Jordan Rogers did tweet Saint, hey, listen, whenever there's a tight end on the field, you pretty much know exactly what they're going to do. And if Jordan Rogers who grinds and looks at a bunch of films, he's able to figure out what or defensive coordinator who are paid millions of dollars or hundreds of thousand dollars to do and get it together. I think that kinda shifts something lose for us. I mean, I think Gus in that press conference said it and Gus has taken full responsibility for this. And I don't know if he goes in and have the conversation with chip Lenzi and say, hey water, our tendencies. Let's drill down because I think last year people knew what Auburn football was wanting to do right. They said, hey, we're going to. We're going to have play action pass, and we're going to be able to run the ball really well with between kerryon Johnson in camp up way when he was healthy. Now, the difference is is he could just out muscle teams last year. He can't do it with this offense of line. And again, a lot of a lot of people have talked about it to Brian with with with Jared students struggling this year. I think the big deal is. Any quarterback, including to a tug of lower would struggle if he had a bad offense of line. So a major, a monster game because listen ole miss or playing with house money right now, this offense is humming. But then again, if there was ever a week for Auburn to get their offense together, it's this week against ole miss given up almost five hundred yards of total offense every single game. Let's go into another phone call mobile and Oxford. They a Peter burns here on the Paul finebaum show up mumbling. I'm doing good man. How you doing. Good man. You remember talking will ever month ago. I predicted that automobile have five losses. You told me that I was crazy. Yeah. Well, they don't have five losses yet Mobely, but yes, you are looking a lot smarter than I dismissed it earlier. What do you think about this weekend? Yeah, I think the Rams offense, his role and just like you said, and the only thing that worries us eleven o'clock stars tucked stuff together by going at eleven AM. Yeah, but I think that whenever you have a game like ole miss or when Auburn rolls into the grove, I think there's a certain amount of you're not gonna hear some. There's some excitement for there's excitement, because here's a couple of things here in the SEC in so different than any college football league. Right? Is that whenever you feel like one of the powers and I consider all to be a power in the SEC. I mean, this is not been a bottom dweller this team that won the dang west last year right there. Talented for me, anytime somebody comes in and they look a little wounded guess what Tennessee was excited about that. And they took advantage of that last week. I'm just disappointed that we're not going to be able to see decay Metcalf going forward of the rest of this year. That injury, I think is if there's a wide receiver crew outside of Alabama that can can deal with that, it's ole miss. But I. Then there's no doubt that there is nothing on the line for ole miss and this game they can just let it fly and they've been doing it so far. Yeah, I I think that will let it fly gusts coaching for his job this weekend and hopefully he doesn't have job out this weekend. Appreciate taking my call Peter. Thanks, thanks for the phone call. I wanted. I wanted to dress before we get to Matt San Antonio, and we'll continue with your calls eight, five, five, two, four, two. Paul is the idea that gusts is coaching for this job. I've seen in Brennan Marcello who's a friend of the program. He's come in and talked about it, and I just can't imagine that being the case. And the reason why I say that is that do who do you pick? I mean, who do you want? Auburn fans? I is Nick Sabin gonna come coach your your school. I don't see that happening. Who else? Right there is a quote, unquote, no brainer. Does Gus have some issues to work through yet? Does the offense need to get a little bit better? Absolutely. But if you mean to tell me that you think you're going to spend sixty million dollars and make a change all because a guy who was basically one game away playing the SEC championship game last year, they win that game during the college football playoff it because he has one bad season when. On the cost of having four of his five offense of lying gone. You want to run them out of town. I think it's, it's a joke. Can you be critical? Can you want this offense a look different? Absolutely. Do you call for your job? No, your role? Your role is not to run. Gus. Malzahn outta town eight, five, five, two, four, two. Paul is the phone number Matt in San Antonio, what's happening? My man. They've earned him as for that option b. but I wanna ask you a question real quick break out of my ticket saying him. I read an article had to deal with it. Said, aim sexy, coupons play children, a bowl game. You think that's going to happen issue, man, I would love it. Right? I mean, listen that that's one thing we've talked to JIMBO Fisher about one thing that we've talked. You know, Tom Herman's monas- about Wendy. You get some of these great rivalry games in Texas in AM listening. Getting wrong. They said he might. Nude in twenty twenty three and twenty three to twenty eight DMC about that. Yeah, I but I would love to see it in. Here's the deal bowl directors absolutely wanna dial in and get that because they want to have intriguing match-ups. I mean, that's that's how people will tune into these games in especially at the end of the year, you wanna have something to where there's something on the line, like Auburn ole miss has a lot on the line for a bevy different reasons, but Texas and that's a recruiting battle right now in both of those coaches are taking their programs back to what we think is what they're capable, right? Like JIMBO Fisher. Thank you. What did you think about that? Amen. South Carolina game, I think that I, I thought being in getting better under JIMBO Fisher. We haven't been too in five at five and funeral long time under Kevin, semi eight and four last year or seven and five yet Matt differences. Any differences in thank you for the phone call eight, five, five, two, four, two. Paul is the phone number. The difference with. AM this year. And I think every single Aggie fan can say that is that late into a game in the second half of the season, it feels like they can stop the run and they can run the ball, right. And those are things. I don't think that we could say late into the season lease past the midway part of the last couple of years. I think the South Carolina and the Kentucky game or two games that Texas them in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen twenty seven thousand five. I'll just don't win. I don't think they win that game. Now they do JIMBO Fisher. That's because of the job that Mike Elko has done coming in from Notre Dame and getting that run defense to play a lot better. And I think that is the physical nature of the physical nature of what they have done there in college station. So if I'm if I'm an Aggie fan right now, I'm not sure if this season could be drawn up any better because we knew that it was going to be a two into start after facing Clemson in Alabama. In the way they're playing right now. They need to keep it rolling intriguing on Williams man. I'm tell you what he won't. Get the Heisman love, but he's a guy that has been slept on urine year. Routing deserves it that national credit. Let's continue with your phone calls eight, five, five, two, four, two, Paul. You can hit me up on Twitter at Peter burns ESPN Harry's in New Orleans was happening. Welcome to the Paul finebaum show. How you to go, hey, man, I'm good. I got Donald Staley right behind us talking a little women's hoops. One of the legends we're going to have Holly Warlick and a bunch of the coaches on here little bit later. So life is good man. I wanted to get your opinion on the Heisman since everybody seems to be talking about that and read a lot about it, and I was interested in knowing that your, what's your take on what constitutes Heisman moment. And Secondly, plus, you know, success on the road to the Heisman because I'm afraid and I don't know how you feel about it. I'm afraid to and plan the Dominican is chances. I'll hang up and listen to you. Well, I, I think the thing to Harry, Greg, Greg, great phone call. I think there's four people that are involved in the Heisman, Trophy race right now, right? To sits there in the cat bird seed, you have Dwayne Haskins a quarterback over at Ohio State. I don't think there's a doubt still Cuyler Murray. I'm not. I'm not counting him out because if they run the table and re in face, Texas, again in the big twelve championship, he's going to be able to put up some numbers as well. And also the kid that Memphis. Is going to play this week, Darrow Henderson the running back. He's not going to get a lot of love nationally, but this kid leads FBI in rushing right now averages like eleven yards a carry. I Darryl Henderson in there as well to your question about too. That's why I think it's intriguing of how Nick handles to this week against Tennessee. I frankly, I'd call the Vatican and get the pope mobile and put two in the pope mobile for the rest of the ranger the season, right. I mean that good. I think the only way that any team really kind of gives them a run for their money as far as national championship level is too is not one hundred percent, correct. I wouldn't play to a personally now a lot of people this week against Tennessee. Now a lot of people are saying, well, now you're talking about three weeks what he wouldn't play or tickets nap until the LSU game because he was off this week. They play in the know have a buy week before they go down to Baton Rouge. And of the third. If you do play too, I likened it to win you play Aaron Rodgers or Cam Newton. In the second game of a preseason game, you're running max, protect your a little bit short. Her pop passes and you're not getting him out to where he's running the ball a lot. Will it hurt him playing in the fourth, not play in the fourth quarter hail? No, you know the why the reason why is because the numbers that he's putting up, if they continue to be that good, they'll be Heisman, Trophy award, winning numbers. So to again, still in the catbird seat and that moment could be down there on November. Third against LSU, you put a big win against the top five team in the country with that defensive, Dave Aranda. Welcome to one of the Heisman to more your phone calls and we'll have a lot more of interviews coming up. You can hit me up on Twitter at Peter burns ESP in. That's the tweets sitting in for the Paul finebaum show. We are here at SEC women's media's day. We'll have coach Joe vol, miss joining us here in a little bit Nell. Fortner and anti Landers join us as well. Your phone calls and tweets coming up. Next Cepal finebaum show listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast that's SEC women's basketball tip off of the grand bohemian. It's time for being the radius with Holiday Inn express coach, you'll that McPhee McEwen Chandrika session joining us here, coach, yo, yeah, yo what's up. It's so funny we walk into this room and it's a great time of the right people are fans are talking about college football. We had men's basketball and then, but when you come into this room, people lied up. What is it about the energy over there? Having fun. You haven't had a good time so far very time. A lot of people get jobs and they hit the ground running and I've hit the ground sprinting. There's been a lot of fun. It's been a track meet for you, but you got a lot of ground to make up in the recruiting area. Talk to a little bit about the inroads you've been able to to make their at old miss. Yeah. Well, you know, almost as national brand, so I've been able to get indoors. I hadn't been able to get into for five years now. 'cause I was at Jacksonville and everyone's been super supportive and wanted to know about what university of Mississippi has offer. And it's been an easy sell because he get him on campus. It's beautiful facilities top notch. And so. That's that's just been the job. The more importantly, not even giving all on campus is finding the right piece that will fit what we're going to try to do so that we can be competitive in the in the future. When you when you evaluate. And I would think when you took the old miss job, you've got they're evaluating situation valuating situation. What was the first thing that you hit on that you said we need to change this this, this we're needs to be? Yeah. I mean, I think I just needed to change it energy right away. There was a defeat type feeling, you know, understandably, when you look at the record that the players had last year and so you correct? I wanted to assess the situation and so that is why I didn't hire staff right away went in and I listened to the players and wanted to see what they wanted and what they expected and what they wanted the experience to be like, and and so the energy and then just the pride for the program, just getting it back and usually you, that's an easy sell when it's a new captain in on the ship are Shagari. Good. Your bag. You're you're back? Yes, you got to play a little bit. Then you blew your knee out early in that season, but you got the full redshirt. So we're so happy about that. Now, how are you feeling? How's that recovery? Come. And how are you feeling right now? I mean, it was a long process, but I don't really fitting great. I started Fogo last Wednesday and just working my way back in and just got a game. I companies back just do what I normally do. If I get a hangnail on done for like a win ACL. You talked about the confidence, how, how hard is it to go back one hundred percent in practice after something like that. How long did it take into you felt really comfortable alone time because I had feared that I would injure myself again. Ale is alone, but you feel great coming. I feel that ready. She's smiling because I don't have to practice today. You have to tell them. I'm looking at your schedule. I see y'all to the US Virgin Islands. Did you schedule -solutely. I was not even aware of it until Gino told me when we robbery or anything. And he said, you know, he said, we're playing you guys. I said, no, you're not. So we are said, no, you know, we went back and forth for Banjul. Gino was right. So he made it clear that we were playing and I said, well, here's the thing coach as a you. You're not gonna put. You're not gonna put ninety three points on us in the first half, they don't care. The foul Mojo team. Get a million elation, but stalling the ball. Again, those many points we chuckled. So it was great. Yeah, a lot of transfers. Yeah. So you have a team that that isn't all that familiar with each other. You're basically starting over number one objective that you have for this team as you get ready to start this season. Oh, he's just talk about getting one percent better every day. You know, we've got challenged them to grow and grow quickly. You know, we really don't. If they want to achieve the goals that they want to cheat. We don't have time to usually as a coach, you'll say, oh, by January, we'll get this. So you know, by conference, but I need the freshman to grow up. I need the the new comers. I need everybody to just really lock him by and be all in now so that we can make the best out of the season. And that's just that's just what it is. That's the nature of the beast and Shinji Rica. Let me ask you this, how, how cool is it? I want to have this use that word that you've got are many price there. As one of your assistant coach is one of the all time greats from miss. I mean, and she sets a fantastic. Human being this love her. But here she is. Now you get to work with her on a daily basis. The ad let you know growing up. She was my role model. Yeah, like now have on the sideline coach Amee at the at the whole resume, but as such a great fit and I'm going to learn from this, has she talked to you any of her? Her good moves and her. Incident. Tissot patient on the backside zone defense was, I mean, come on. A long time. She's got a lot of. Now. Exactly. To be able to help you sell ole miss because she's such a great Representative of that school. No, just because I wanted to build on that when selling it, we saw the success Jacksonville, the twenty one seasons for those who are unfamiliar with your style of play. I mean, for SEC fans that are tune in right now, what is old miss women's hoops in twenty teen under coach. Oh, well, I thought about that because I, I've been paying attention to the questions. I said they're gonna ask me our style of play, and our style of play this year will be different from what it looked like in the future. But this year will be fun. That will be consistent, but we're going to be chameleons we're going to, we're going to prepare depending on who we're playing, that is how we're going to play. So it's gonna be scout specific. I think that I would be tricky myself to try to say this is how ole miss women's basketball ball is going to be. It might tenure in my air. You get saying, like right now, just focusing on trying to put these young ladies in the best position to be successful on the court day in and day out. And so that's playing zone versus one team will do it. Man, triangle into oxen, one, whatever, coach Landers jacket. Call somebody for for me when you when you take a job. I think you have ideas about the way you think it's going to how were those things. Right. What's been the pleasant surprise and what has been the thing that you've walked into it? Oh, MRs at Ono I didn't know this. Yeah. Well, I didn't know that eight place. We're gonna try. Expected some to transfer this. There may be. That's what I've been saying. The people people have been asking me a lot. You don't have you been paying attention? It hadn't been coaching changes and people have been transfer. I okay. So that is the norm, but I didn't expect eight to leaf. Okay, so that that was something that I was okay, I need to adjust. But what I've been pleasantly surprised with the conference I knew about the SEC I've been in the regional biggies and the ACC, but this is my first time and I played against SEC teams, but to be in this conference, it really just means more and I did not know how beautiful almost was. There you have a favorite spot on campus yet to say. Retain. This where you can eat? No, I had to pull myself back because I started to get out of hand. I got there with all this Fisher visits. We had always good in royalties. A really good women's hoops coming forward cannot wait to see back on the court. Congratulations on your rehab. We look for that season coach yo keep keep that energy. Absolutely. We got more coming up here from the women's hoops media days here in Birmingham, Alabama. We return here on the Paul finebaum show. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. I welcome everybody back into the whole finebaum show. Peter burns along with at least one of my really good friends. Foreigner handy leaders is here as well. We don't have any fun on this show. We're going to get back to your phone calls a little bit eight, five, five, four, two, Paul. You can hit us up on Twitter as well to we'll break bacon down a little bit of week, eight in college football, but I wanna break down. We just saw the infectious behavior in attitude of coach yo in this conference right now for those who don't know it sell me on it. You know, we got a lot of listeners that they're all tuned into football, right? This is what they do. They don't understand how good this product is women hoops. What are you selling them on a reason why this thing, especially this conference has been good for a long time Peter and you know that as a sports fan, but to me what really makes this exciting every year year in and year out new stars are born and you. You know this, Andy, we see a great Asia Wilson. She's gone. Now we see Mercedes Russell and Jamie NAR from Tennessee. They're gone. There's players from Mississippi State four, senior starters that shot three of them shot forty percent behind the art. They're gone well, you know what? It's time for new players. Step utter, their new stars will be born this year in a big way because this conference year in and year out plays some of the best women's basketball in the country, if not the best, and we're going to see new players step forward and it's going to be fun to watch. That's shortage. The would add to that and we probably have the best player in the country. At Mississippi State germ account. You're talking about a double double machine who has an excellent chance of being named national player of the year, but I would take it somewhere a little different. You know, this is a conference that has. Led the charge in terms of the development of women's basketball. This league was big when women's basketball wasn't cool. That goes back to when I was coaching, but there's been thirty seven NC double a. tournaments. And I think the SEC is had someone in the finals, twenty seven or twenty eight times that gives you an Adia. I mean, teams have been from this conference have been to multiple final fours. We've seen what South Carolina has done recently. Three final fours national championship game Mississippi State to to Georgia to five Auburn to four back in the day, you know, Tennessee to sweet. Holly world care about ten minutes, so it it it. It is a league that is tuned to the top. You know, has the ability year in and year out just as we do in football to have a team play for the national championship exciting. And the other thing I go, I'm gonna go back to the players. Was that your short answer because his check. But let's talk about another great player in this league. And that's Kennedy Carter at Texas AM. This is a freshman point guard national freshman of the year. Absolutely. Phenomenal season average leads the scoring last year twenty two point two game in the tournament thirty one point to another level twenty something she averaged thirty one in the turnament. So she took it to another level after the after SEC play. But what's so phenomenal about her is when you put the ball in her hand, I don't care if you're a men's basketball fan or a women's basketball. You wanna watch this kid play because she plays at an offensive level that has really nobody else can match that in this. Well, too. One of the people that I that I respect as much as anyone in women's basketball is Doug Bruno depaul. Great coach, just incredible success. That's who she went off on. They were prepared and couldn't stop her right and couldn't do anything about it. All in her hand, she's two points, three points, white news newses. We'll see her attitude coach Blair's always real crazy. Not gets right. Yeah. We'll talk a little bit later as well to Warlick's going to join us coming up here on this. I do really like coach Landers I promise don't tell him that. Listen there. Everybody's saying hydrated here. We'll join you. Join you nail. Here SEC women's basketball media day here at Birmingham, Alabama, Graham, bohemian listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like this, it's good. It's it's, it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical Debbie, which is talking about it with me Jackson, and I see that smile on your face and it's it's a beautiful smile for joining us here in Rhode Island. I was gonna say, coach last year was the braces. So she complained about the issue or what? Not every day. Everyone. Hey, what do you do you not wanting it about much on this team as far as when you look at what me run I can do. What is it about this team that makes you think this is back to where you want to be in this program? We're, we're energized. We play with so much energy so much passion. We have a togetherness that we haven't had a while and it's on the court off the court. And these young ladies have made a commitment, so it's fine. I'm, I'm loving it. I'm joined what I'm doing. That's that's good because you got to have fun at the game, but let me ask you this, you lost six, six, Mercedes Russell, you lose Jamie NAR. These are two players that were significant in your program for their four years of eligibility. Have you make up? How do you replace those two specific players and their specific positions inside and on the perimeter. Now you go get your team that's there and they get into Jim on their own. So they, they've developed their game, they'd gotten better, and then you go out and sign a great freshman class and kids that will come in that are hungry, talented, but really eager to play an eager to please. So you replace those two Davis has done a heck of a job getting better committee. She's just been so determined to make sure this. Basketball team heads in great direction, hotly here you. But specifically, I was a Mercedes Russell fan thought she'd great footwork. I thought she'd just really good player and a great Representative of the university of Tennessee who plays back to the basket. Cast can't see to to. She does our caller Cassie, right. Done such a good job of. She's toned her body. She's gotten more physical. She was there all summer. I would say Cassie right now shared in green Mamie. Collins who comes in as a freshman. So we're going to do a little bit of back committee, but to get that Mercedes look that back to the basket primarily it would be cast from the great recruiting class. You mentioned it a moment ago for people that aren't familiar, how many players there and what positions and how they help this team this year. Great question jasmine mass and Gail point guard facility facilitator. She's from Tennessee. Zeh green a penetrator, very aggressive super-quick will help us on the perimeter. Lou Brown, who's a red shirt, senior coming from Washington state, got a maturity about her. Mimi Jack's Mamie Collins who is a physical can stem face the basket and who right Baril who was a loop sleeper for us. Right is right is just a energizer is is a great shooter consistent shooter and she just puts herself out there and I love how she competes. What about. Since we have sitting here, I would love to hear your thoughts on this. You are the leading returning point score and rebounder after you, you lost Mercedes and Jamie Nord. What kind of responsibility laws on your shoulders this year you're preseason Alessi pig. What kind of not just pride you taking that, but the responsibility that goes with that and to contribute on the floor. What is definitely a great responsibility with. I mean, I know artifice to win a lot of these games. I'm definitely you'll have to score the ball. Of course, go have to continue to rebound and just play hard from our team. Keep getting my teammates involve and doing stuff like that. Rookie was a fourth best recruiting class. Right. I mean, listed a bevy different players coming in. You were in that those shoes last year. What's the one piece of advice that an idea as saying like, this is what you need to know. This is what lady vol's basketball's about the one piece of advice. You mean like I'm giving to the freshman, absolutely. Where to park on campus. Coaches and wherever I don't have a car. So I don't know. But as far as being a first, but it doesn't last long like you technically freshman all year. But by the time you reach SEC play, you can't can't use the excuse of being a freshman anymore. Just play by how have you grown your game in the off season? What did you add to your game? Well, I worked in post solemness year actually, which originally didn't want to do. I realized that it will just take my game to the next level being able to post up smaller guards or whoever may be army at the time being more aggressive attack Nebraska again to get into the paint a lot this year. So we'll see how that goes. No sweat, no Sweet. Sixteen laster. What did you hear and how did it affect you? Did it motivate you when you fail to get there for the first time? What was definitely tough for me. It was my first years. My first go round NCAA tournament, so I don't really know what to expect, but I knew that second round this not not says ninety cents. So for us, we all just got an Jim. We took it very, very tough on the loss in the second round. It was just embarrassing. This lease. I think this this off season, we've been in a gym a lot more. We've taken practice a lot more serious. We've been high energy everyday in practice in everybody's coming ready to work every day. So preseason your pick third in this league, the team looked down upon that or y'all say, it doesn't matter. We're just gonna go out here and play. We're better than that. The though he's going to be preseason a little bit lower on if she out. I mean, everybody has their own opinion. I don't. I'm not really into the rankings and preseason stuff. We'll just see how those that sounds like a coach answer right there. Getting the right gates came out some, that's she knew. You got thirty seconds here. What are you looking forward? You've seen in the rest of the league. The saying, just physical athletic fast plays hard goes inside, have guards at create outside. Great, three point shooters just everything you got to be prepared for every every single year, right? It's led vol. Basketball has been setting the bar very high for many years. I can't wait to see you. I have some fun coach. Enjoy the smile with braces. I know you're. Let vol's going to have a big year SEC women's hose. We'll talk a little mintues and football. When we return back here, the Paul finebaum show.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried package and then patron tree of college. Football leaves here is the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast rates Thursday -gratulations to us. Anyway, we'll come back to the show. Lots to do today, including some conversations about basketball. Did you see Tennessee last night? They were on the brink memorial. Gymnasium in Nashville, but they escaped with a little help from their friends and one player in particular grant Williams, it is voices. Loud on the Homer right now, his play has been loud on the floor. Sly and washes on so high there's nobody could have blocked all the foul called grown men baskets twenty three to twenty three from the free throw line. On my own. Basically. Are you kidding me? This stork will performance for grant waves in this building tonight. Everybody taking notes including Andy Katz talking about grant Williams show tremendous leadership in overtime for the vol's at Vanderbilt. Kyle Boone saying, it's absolute joy to watch Williams. Play basketball. Chris dortch? He just got his jersey retired tonight. My reaction was pretty similar. I mean he and sending him to the free throw line was not a good move. But that's how he ended up spending a lot of time there. He was brilliant. Tennessee escapes one or two controversial calls down the stretch. But in the end Tennessee survived nearly revisiting seen from nearly ten years ago when the then number one vol's went to Nashville first time out lost. They avoided that this time. They'll take on West Virginia Saturday in the big twelve SEC challenge. We'll get some reaction to that game. Just a few minutes. But that's not the only going on quarterbacks. Taking advantage of free agency in college football. This is not a new story. But it seemed to be one of the bigger in best stories of the year. Me. Well, you faces in new places. Make for interesting two thousand nineteen. Tony Barnhart will join us on that subject. Mr. college football will also give us his top ten. Georgia running backs of all time west Rucker coming up shortly on the Tennessee vol's, and what's in store for them. The rest of the way, Tony Barnhart is mentioned and Todd mcshay live from the senior bowl. So that is part of our lineup here on this Thursday afternoon. But first calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. Don't everyone call at once. Let's let's get to the calls and start with our old friend met in San Antonio. How are you Matt and get called contacting special team in a loss to Florida? Yeah. John again dishes pointing the my basketball team with an Paul. They've played so good in the first half. And then they dislike when go apart. Yeah. Yeah. I understand Paul. We is still good in Sweet Sixteen beat the crap North Carolina. And now he's like struggling I ever married. You have to take a look at what departed after last season. And I think that there in lies part of the problem. I I still think good Kennedy's is an excellent coach he's done. He's just he's in one of those those ice patches right now that I think he's having a difficult time navigating angry, and I heard about niche chuckle transferring I the name I wish him moral luck in the world wherever we go. She's a good quarterback. He is I now he said he's got power being Aggie as graduating after this year Panthers. But I wish more I'm not gonna world. He's a good quarterback. And I hope he has a good career wherever he goes next school. He goes play for you got. We'll listen, thanks so much. Matt Marcia is up next in Alabama Hella, Marsha? Hi, how other thanks. Thanks for taking my call. I had about three things I wanted to say today and that is. One of my favorite cowers that you get is Jimmy from Chicago real he's very knowledgeable. And you know, he I just enjoy listening to him. The second question is have you heard from merely like the? You know, we heard from her briefly and never got a chance to ask her how she was feeling. I know she had been sick during the Christmas holidays, but hopefully, she will call and soon maybe today how because you know, I hadn't seen her on there for a while. And I just hope you know, something had happened. You know, we're from a right after the Alabama of championship game. But we didn't talk long. But maybe you'll call in today. And my third thing is that I was so excited for Jalen hurt. That oklahoma. You know, we're all pulling for him to do a good job. So we're gonna pull for Oklahoma because of Jalen and then Alabama well, Marcia, thank you very much. Great to hear from you. Gary is in Knoxville Tennessee where I got the best men's team in the country and their women's team take on Notre Dame, which is the best women's team tonight. Yes. Paul first time caller. Appreciate you taking my call. Thank you, Gary. I wouldn't get further comment on Holly situation. Yeah. Leaving here hearing because I think distinctly we need change and soon I just wanted to get your end. Yeah. You know, I asked that question to John Adams a couple of nights ago, who you probably know is longtime media maven up there. And he said he doesn't think this is his words not mine. He didn't think that the university was really committed to having an elite team. In other words, he thought they would tolerate what we're seeing. Now, I can tell you, and this is always unscientific. Okay. But based on the callers to this show, and there have been many this week, the overwhelming majority of callers that we have heard from want change, and they want change soon. So I I think Gary tonight is an opportunity for Hollywood to show that Tennessee still has a top level program. If they don't look good tonight, which hard to imagine they will they've lost five in a row, then I think the drumbeat for her ouster. We'll get louder Harry is in New Orleans. Harry, not a New Orleans. Gay Garrett is up next in Tennessee. Hello garrett. Good afternoon to you. Good afternoon. Let me tell you. I was at that game yesterday in memorial gymnasium of for continue. It's one of the worst days I've ever been to. But it was the loudest place. I've ever been to Tennessee was loud Vanderbilt was loud. But Tennessee was a little bit louder muff in. I just wanted to say grant, we ended the man Vanderbilt is a bunch of boys and go Valls. Steve breaking news there. Steve is up next in Florida. Hello, steve. How you doing Paul? We're doing great. Thank you, first time caller. I just called in because I see National Science day coming up and just like every fan from any fan base. I'm real excited about what has been doing the Gators. But in the SEC, you could be a top ten top eleven programs. Still have you know, five other teams from your conference ahead of you. So my question to you is I heard you talking I think it was yesterday with somebody debate in Kirby smart versus versus Nick, saving, and I know savings extraordinarily talented. But you know, he is getting towards I guess you would say at least the second half of his career not the end of his career realistic when you're sixty when you're about to be sixty eight you're you're more than. I mean, you are you are late in the fourth quarter, my friend, right? And so I remember the coaching care. And some of the struggles they had their Alabama before. I remember what would Georgia look like, you know, once upon a time so for for four to fans or any fan base out there that wants to get back on top particularly in the SEC where there's such a a tremendous amount of competition. You know, it's it's hard to fault. Dan Mullen, his first year taking a four and seventeen and doing what he did what needs to happen for for whether it's my team or any team to get to where Nick Sabin or some of these other guys are whether the top one or two when it comes to recruiting classes when it comes to AP rankings to get back on top because you know, the expectations are pretty high there, and yes, Dave, thank you for the call. I don't think you have to be in the top two or three and recruiting. I think as long as you're consistent top five top eight. You're going to be okay. And I think Dan Mullen is moving toward that rankings. Ranking wise, it wasn't all that great. But I think the way he closed the early signing period. I think especially with those. I think those young players were from Clearwater, whatever high school was down there. It made a big difference. But but ultimately for for Florida to get where they wanna go. They're going to have to beat Georgia. That's essential. They're going to have to be Georgia in in that all important game in late October and get to the SEC championship game. They got a couple of times under Jim mcelwain quickly got run over they, but but they need, but they need to deal with Kirby smart right now. And I think that's essential thing. And they also can't afford to lose games. Like they did last year to Kentucky very good team and Missouri as well. Both games were at home. We're up against a break. We'll find out more about the Tennessee vols. Is there? Anything to be concerned about considering the last two games have been narrow wins against unranked teams. They're still number one in the country. But how long will they stay? We'll talk to someone who follows the team very closely in Knoxville coming up next to listening to Paul. Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back to the program. We'll head to Knoxville shortly and get some more reaction to the Tennessee. Vols? More of your calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five David is in Tennessee. And you're on the air. Go right ahead. First time calling. Thank you. I want to talk about Pissy Ben boo game. I not and when thoughts on how important the free POS wire in that game. Well, I thought they were critical if grant Williams missed any of those that the end of regulation, I don't think Tennessee would won the game. I mean Vanderbilt all all they needed was one more shot. And it was that simple. And then that four point turnaround really cost them. They just couldn't quite deliver it, but I- Vanderbilt credit though, coach drew had his team ready to play and they performed brilliantly even though they're not going anywhere this year. But I don't think that game. Like that hurts there's an old axiom in basketball that that you need a game. Like that. Now, this was now two in a row for Tennessee. But I don't think it's I don't think anyone game right now is critical for the vol's. They just need to keep doing what they're doing. Looking forward here for Auburn. It's Wales and both sides. Thank you very much before to seeing you later in the spring, David down in Henderson. Thank you for the call. Appreciate it very very much. Stephen is in Virginia. And you're on the air. Hey, how you doing today? We are great. Thank you. Oh, well, I called him before. And I'm a big Virginia Tech football fan, and we lost. Josh jackson. We lost a couple tight ends. And we lost running back, and I know they want to better their future. But what is the NCAA going to do about like transfers or is it a university fix? Well, the got new legislation that makes it more meaningful to the student athlete, which I happen to agree with. I think the bigger question Stevens what's going to happen to Virginia Tech? I thought this year the hokies went the wrong way. Yeah. I will went to law. We had a lot of injuries and a lot of people transfer. And I'm just wondering what if if we don't win next year. What's a future you're talking about coach went to three years ago is hottest coach in America. And now we're wondering can you get the job done? I think it's early a like him very much, but Virginia Tech expects better. That's a that's a high caliber program. It's a high standard Frank beamer left behind. Thank you, very very much for the call. Call steep is in Louisville. Hey, steve. Hey, Paul, you know, the game last night. I thought was just a travesty that call at on that ho can hold call. I know that's supposed to be some porn of references year girl looking for. But the that whole that should have been a no call whatsoever. No foul on anybody. I mean, the Tennessee player came down put his arm outside of the vandy player Nygren, and he's the one that initiated the, you know, you know, listen, I I was watching the game as a Tennessee graduate with Vanderbilt graduate. So there was a lot of intensity going on. And I I I try to call it like I see it now. I know I know they reviewed it. And I understand the rule, but in real time, I thought it was a totally garbage call. It was it's Renison it. It's already happened. And a couple of times that I've seen that may be she'll get it. Right. But guess make a call. I mean that game. I mean, they weren't splitting atoms. Take a look at it. And then let everybody know what you see don't don't don't look at it. Like, you're you're trying to get the underbelly of the of a molecule there, you either see it or you don't see it. And if you don't see it then. Make the decision. Officiating was terrible. It was when you when you like you said when you go to the monitor and look at it for as long as they did and still can't get it. Right. That's that's that's really bad. Now. I was really surprised by the company, and I mean, do I think that call cost Andrew belt the game? Yes. I do. I think that call cost Andrew belt the game. Now, I say that as Tennessee graduate. Yeah. I think it should have been a six point lead and Vanderbilt with the ball, and they would have won the game. What what a minute a minute left in the game. If that. And at that point the game the game's over. I I don't I don't think Tennessee could've made up the difference. But I mean, but give Tennessee a lot of credit. I mean, they hung in there. And I mean, they ended up, you know, surviving which is what a good team. If not a great team does. Yeah. They they they they're out of bounce plays that they ran that. They scored on repeatedly were were amazing. Yeah. Now. That the game should never been should never. I I rarely turn off a game and genuinely feel badly for team, but I felt badly for Vanderbilt because. They game was decided by by the guys in the officiating outfits. Not by the players. Thank you very much for the call. Appreciate it. Neil is in Kentucky. Neil go. Right ahead. You're on the air. Okay. I could go back briefly company coaching care sale and Trump's collusion. Speculates your dad, whatever the the full you left to go to California. I believe it was some guy North Carolina called about the one two and three and recruiting and the connection that they all had a university of Alabama connection and tie their and whatever I think one of the things that might be eventually heard say that his when they get enough head coaches out there that know where the bodies are very and they start coming in and number one number two number three in recruiting within five stars. I'm gonna last week. They learn more than Xs and os down there, of course, saving didn't create the system. He just can't do it. They you're right. And you know, you. People always wonder. Well, what's what's Nick savings relationship with Kirby smart? Well, I I have heard that the biggest rub that that he and others Alabama have with Kirby smart is Kirby smart took the took. What was in the so-called war room? That's the secret room out in outside of Sabin. Inside of savings off. If you're going to go into another room where all the players are on the board, and he he began recruiting those which by the way is perfectly legitimate. If you're the new coach at at the university of Georgia and that created the tension, and I think the tension grew last year when Kirby smart beat saving in recruiting and save and got him back in national championship game. But but that's why did what he did. And and and you you have Kirby out there. Jeremy Pruitt out there. You have other coaches out there and becomes more difficult because there are only so many secrets that you can hold onto as a head football. Coach. But I don't believe that the guy ended up would would even entertain anything about Kirby smart because he knows the relationship to saving and stuff like that. So these guys are going to have not only what they learn. But the connection they have is going to be a probably a factor in in recruiting course, there's not that many head coaches now, but as more and more come along that may be a problem for well. You know, we're talking about two different things. I mean, I'm talking about recruiting, and you're talking about some something ferry which you know, Mark Emery, the president the answer the way, I think a lot. Yeah. I think he's concerned about bettering himself. I think the lines about him and saving are overblown. Thank you for the call. Do. Appreciate it. Robert in Texas on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, robert. Yes. Hello, sir. Hello, miss Pham and say Hello to all my SEC cousins out there. The reason for my call is where I worked got into this conversation about the New Orleans game. And they called it the worst call in sports history. I had to disagree and say no it happened in nineteen seventy two at the USA USSR men's gold medal basketball game. Well, I got stunned silence from the crowd when I realized oh, wait they're all born after nineteen seventy two. So I know you're alive and said, you're not I would listen, I totally agree with you. I mean what you saw in the in the saints Rams game. Was just a terrible call. It was a no call. Yeah. I don't know how the official missed it. He did which but I mean. Yeah, it was just it was just a pure. Incompetence? It was nothing more than that. The guy didn't see it. He didn't see what everyone else saw what happened in one thousand nine hundred seventy two was was just absolute robbery. You had you had an official steal the game from the from the USA basketball team. I mean, literally three seconds of. Yeah. I mean, I it it would rank as the most egregious thing I've ever seen and then the. USOC backing it up, and it's just even even but but again, you expect that from that organization now excuse me, not the USOC, but the the IOC, and you know, I it will forever. Be it. I I have talked to people that were in that game on the American side that still can't talk about it. And what was that nearly fifty years ago? Yes there. That's why I got stunned. Silence. From my co workers, who they believe me know, anyone who wants to argue that just go just go look it up their books written about it. There's you can watch the video in real time. I watched it live as I'm sure you did. And and I mean, it was one of the lowest moments in sports history. In was just it was just tragic really to. It's one thing to lose lose a basketball game for the gold medal. It's another thing to literally have it stolen from you. I mean in the worst possible way up against a break. We'll find out more about the Tennessee basketball team. I think you can tell. There's a lot of buzz about that. We'll talk a little bit about the women tonight too. Because they play a critical game concerning the future of Holly Warlick's, we are taking your phone calls as well. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living, most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when an in a most nesting dole, his gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer pity in most nesting Dollond her lot in life. We're back here on the programming. Glad you are too. Well last night in Nashville, we saw one of the most exciting basketball games of the young season. Will the youngest sees I should say west Rucker was there to cover it and always great to catch up with him west, you cut your breath. That was quite a ball game last night at memorial gymnasium. Good afternoon. Any all you doing today? Yeah. That was a great great game last night. I mean that was everything that she thinking in state while we like tendency Vanderbilt should be mostly Tennessee's game at Memphis overly the season. It was really good atmosphere. Lots of fans from both teams. And it was it was a really really fun basketball game. You know, I read what what you said in your column today about the controversial call we've already had some chatter about that here on the program. Could you break that down? And I mean, it looked terrible on television. But I didn't have the rule book out like you did. And I mean, I know you supported the call. Call. But but in real time it looked like a bad call. Yeah. I hear it this way. Paul. I didn't like the call. But it was the right call you know, that that hook and hold emphasis is a big thing that they said going into the season about you know, if you've kinda got somebody who going up for a rebound underneath them. You've got you've gotta get dislodged before that person goes up, and he didn't do it. And that play was put in there to kind of prevent those, you know, head injuries and dislocated shoulders and things guys get because these guys are leaping forty inches off the ground, and they fell down and hurt themselves. So I don't love the call especially in that situation. But when you go back and look at the monitor it was the right call, and if you're going to go to a monitor you don't really have the the opportunity as referee to say it's late in the game. I'm going to let that go. If you go to the monitor and there's evidence you have to make the call. So I didn't love it. But it was like all okay. Other than that. This is now not to harp on this. But Tennessee's now the number one team in the country scrutiny will come. The second game in a row. They've they've come within a hiccup of losing against an unranked team, obviously, Alabama a little bit more -ccomplish with a win over Kentucky. Vanderbilt. We know we know the narrative there is this anything to be concerned about or is it is Tennessee just dealing with the vagaries of the SEC in late January. Somewhere probably in between those Paul. I think it's something that needs to be on everyone's radar, but I wouldn't call it a concern. Just yet, you know, the the fact is this team last season was elite defensively and and pretty good offensively right now this season with the same group of guys. Basically they've been elite offensively I think second nationally offense efficiency, but they just been kinda. Okay. Top thirtyish defensively. And it's the same group of guys. And you saw the Alabama game Vanderbilt game when they needed to get stops late. They went back and kind of channel that phone from last season and they made the plays. But where is that during during the game itself? So yeah, I mean, I think that's part of it. But also, I think Tennessee in the second half of that game. I don't think the defense was terrible. I think the defense was terrible for parts of the first half Advani get in the game and get rhythm. And then once that happened, and you started making crazy shots and all kinds of great place. So I think the fault is in letting them get going. Not where they got. But. Yeah, I mean, you're number one you're going to everyone's best shot. I think Barnes for the best. That's the that's the bed. They've made for themselves. And now they're going to have to get used to because I'd say Bobby hugging or Huggins must Virginia. They're going to do the same thing. They're gonna come in there and play physical and they're going to get a great show. And then they go to Carolina next week. And it's the same thing. So yeah, I mean, they're going to have to get used to this. This is there like West Virginia coming off a big win. Let me ask you about grant Williams. And I realized the people around the very familiar with them especially after his season a year ago. But there was the people around the country who are going like what in the world is going on here. Give us the backstory on grant. And and just what makes him tick because that was an amazing performance. It was Paul and he's been you know, maybe not to that level, but he's been playing sort like that for the past two seasons. And he's the guy who came North Carolina Charlotte and a lot of people kind of thought he was a tweeter. Prospects. You know, none of the none of the North Carolina. Power. Wanted him Kentucky Kansas the those programs. They never sniffed him. And he was gonna go to the Ivy league. He was he's a really smart kid as my merchant NASA. You know, the kids speaks three languages play seven years ago instruments. He was a nationally ranked chess player when he was young. He's just a really kinda renaissance kid, and he does a lot of things. But people thought he may not have the the body. You may not have the size and that loses to play at the highest levels. But he's proved all that wrong because red barn saw him as a prospect and saw him make one spinning moving a dunk in a game and said, wait that is a great athlete, and he started pursuing him or and Tennessee convinced him to not go to Harvard or Yale Princeton or any of those and he came to Tennessee, and he's kind of blossomed he's an elite athlete for that size. He's really quick. He's really smart, and he's tough. And he's a guy who's got a great offense of game to me. He started to look a little bit like quotas. Williamson people every time you see a slightly undersized power for making plays in the SEC. People always go Barkley Barkley. He's the next Barkley now. I don't think he's not at all. I think he's more of the corals Williamson. And I think he's a guy who is gonna keep producing at this level. So it comes out of providence day in Charlotte, which is produced athletes in the past. And you know, he's he's literally down the road from the mecca of college basketball either side of the street, you wanna to go whether it's Chapel Hill or Durham did any of those schools. I know you said they didn't really pay any attention. Did they did they have minimal interest or no interest? Very little interest. I think is a good way to put up all they I think Jay Bill will be able to tell you to because he's, you know, lives in that area and is really involved with basketball and that area, and he knew grant pretty well. And he thought he was kind of a, you know, mid major type recruit coming out of high school. He just didn't quite think that Williams had the, you know, the the size and athleticism and quickness combination to play on the perimeter certainly at that level. And he didn't think he'd be big enough to go inside. I think he thought he was a good player, but certainly not an elite player, but that whole that's the story of this entire Tennessee team. I I don't know that there's any way to go back and look at this. I don't think there's an Elias sports bureau for this. But I don't know how many teams have ever been number one nationally without a single top one hundred prospect on the roster now, that's just amazing. The the player development. They've had with these guys. You you go down the list, you know, all those guys they've got none of them had Kentucky Duke you as he offers. No, they just were. We're fringe prospects. On the Rick Barnes in the staff sauce things they liked they develop them and here they are is that changing now. And I know that the big players are starting to look at that. But you you start getting a different type of player in that system. Does it does it upsets a balance of what retry to accomplish? I don't think that remains to be seen. But I have a feeling that won't be the case just finished. He's bringing in a five star kid next year jobs. I James who everybody wanted and he was a kid who he's from run down the road there. From from the triumph area motor Alana there in Charleston and the dad play the Michigan state and Michigan state wanted him. But he loves grant Williams, and he picked Tennessee. So, you know, they're starting to get those kinds of guys again. But I think if you go back to the end of ribons tenure at Texas, and he noticed things starting to go sideways when he looked up in the culture, just wasn't what it used to be when he got when he first got there, and he's sort of built that scrappy underdog mentality early on in Texas, and they won big. And then he started the culture kind of start to erode. And so when he got Tennessee, he was really really particular about the the kinds of guys he took from a character standpoint from an unselfishness standpoint from a coach ability standpoint, there's a certain type of guy now. That he's looking for. And I've said it before I'll say it again, quite that old teen and Seinfeld when he talks about, you know, you reach a certain age you put the car in reverse, and you just don't look back anymore. You're just going. That's how Rick Barnes is now recruiting he's gonna put the car reverse. And he's not looking I if he sees something he doesn't like he's going the other way. And I think that is why there might be more sustainability at the situation in Tennessee. Because I think he knows exactly what kind of guys you want. Now. What's quick question before you go because for so many years we had the opposite being true, the tip assists of of what we have. Now, we had women's basketball ruling, the roost number one in the country. And the men's were struggling does this change the calculus at all what we're seeing from coach Barnes with the Holly Warlick's situation, and she's facing the number one team in the country and women's basketball tonight. Sure. I mean, you can use any word you want. Embattled, you know, Ossie whatever word the phrase you wanna use. I mean, that's certainly what Hollywood let's face and right now and nobody's happy about the situation fall. She's a former Tennessee star. She's from Knoxville her jerseys in the rafters in Tennessee. She was patch right hand. They're out that ten year she's beloved in this area, but that program has standard, and it's clearly not being met. They're losing it historic levels right now. And if that doesn't turn around soon they're going to have to make change because you run the risk of of letting this go on much longer and the lady all stop being the lady balls, and that that becomes a problem because you can still go into any room in America anywhere that you walk into any Jim with the lady of all shirt on as a prospect. You're gonna start looking at those coaches right now, they're they're kinda starting to almost maybe moves down a little bit. And that's when you get into real trouble. You start to lose a culture and density. And that's when you kind of get. Lobbed back in with the masses. Yeah. Then when you start losing at home and on the road, and it's it doesn't really even cause a stir that the mystique is long gone west many. Thanks, great conversation. Really? Appreciate it. Hope you'll come back soon. Anytime Paul, you know, that you got a fantastic conversation. There about the hot team right now, the Tennessee volunteers, we will take a break. More to come as we continue here on a Thursday listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Let's continue with more calls here. And Ken is in Nashville. How are you? Can I'm doing by Paul thanks for taking the call. Thank you. Just re- regarding their call in the van de Tennessee game last night. My thought was that had that happened in the first half? There wouldn't have been any call. And it seems to me that there's a bit of over officiating in the last minute or so of a lot of these games. And I just wondering what you're eating was about. I listen, I heard what west said, and I thought he did a nice job of explaining the rule, and it is a rule that you have to follow. But I just know in real time. I thought it was a terrible call. But again, I I don't have I do have the luxury flay, but it's it's a call that shouldn't have been made. Well, do you do you think that there there is a change in the officiating when it gets down to the down here? I don't know why I'm trying to come up with a reason why the officials other than just calling it. I mean, we're talking about a great player there. But usually the home team would get some advantage there. It's not, and I I know Tennessee's number one of the country. But you know, you don't expect they're not in that Kentucky realm where you expect them to get a call that maybe someone else wouldn't. So that's that even perplex me more. Okay. Thank you gotta live with it. And unfortunately. Vandy is Carol is in Pennsylvania. Hello, carol. Welcome to our show. Hi, thanks. Oh, we've been listening to your show, and you made a comment earlier that John Adams believes that the powers that be don't want an elite program for the lady falls anymore. If that's the case what a slap in the face. What he said based on what they didn't do last year by retaining Holly Warlick's. Maybe I didn't explain it completely. But he was saying by by by not doing anything they were indicating that they really don't have a higher a high standard. You're right. The the question is, you know, would Pat summitt tolerated. What's going on right now? And the answer you, and I both know is no no way Jose, you're right. Well, all I got some fired herself. If team was losing like this. Oh, we have we have season tickets for the lady vol's, and we. We have said more than once Pat would have been screaming her head these girls for their lack of defense, and everything, you know, the problem is I think Holly Warlick is coaching as well as she can. She's just not relating based on and I'm listening. I'm not watch a couple of games. I watch a couple of games this year. I haven't I missed the first part of the season. But what I've seen in the last three games. And I've seen all three of them has been pretty bad. Yeah. We're really disappointed. I mean, if they getting of the season they were playing some not top of the line scheduled teams. Like Pat used to do and they looked you know, we loved watching them. And as soon as made hit your on what you have to do and talk me about this program. Now, you cannot use what I've done and everyone else is done by talking about the past. You have to talk about the present. It doesn't matter. What happens two three four five or six years ago? All that matters is what is happening now and what will happen the remainder of the season. Thank you very much for the call. We we've come to the end of this segment with Akyol for being a part of the program.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride packing then patron Torri of college football leagues here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. We are back for the second hour, and we're glad you have decided to come back as well. More phone calls at eight five five four to seventy five more desk. Connor garra on could dabble Sweeney ever, go back home to Alabama. We'll find out from Connor a little bit later on also on the Alabama conundrum at the coaching staff of the coaching staff. Conundrum. More of your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five liberal later on we'll talk to Jimmy dykes about the Vanderbilt game tonight against Tennessee. Tennessee's first shot at winning since being named the number one team in the country earlier in the week. More more calls right nowadays five to four two seven two eight five and let's continue by going to poodle always want to hear what a poodle has to say on call in show. Poodle. Hey, buddy. Hello. How're you today? We are doing great. Yeah. I. The national campaign to you. Now, did we get down to? Inside the pointy. Three or four times. Could you have to let us correct? Oh who does that fall back on offense coordinator? You know alternately? It's it's an offensive problem when you get down there and make mistakes can execute turn the ball over. Yeah. I would say that's that's on the office side of the ball. When man you got chipping Naylor. Flashes up, you know, Daniel, and that other guy that I was like man that may I interrupt this important message poodle by asking me where you're going with all this. Well, I'm going to the championship game. No, no, tipping Deo, and y'all could down to and his brother. You talking about the guys in the booth. Yeah. And then Chippendale who who is shipping, Dale Daniel, and the do Daniel and John Hayes. Yeah. That had the debate. You know, are you are you suggesting John Hayes used to be a Chippendales dancer? Yeah. He gives them sometimes because he for Notre Dame. Now now that that's more ki-be AC Lavelle that or them. Now. Well, what what tell me poodles, maybe time for a new call Bill is in Georgia. Hilla Bill you're on the air. Go right ahead. Hi, paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you for giving us fans. Amateur wanna be reporters voice on your show. Thank you talking about the Tennessee program. It's funny when you have a team that's number one. You tend to watch a whole lot more basketball than you. Usually do I've seen I've seen things from this Tennessee team that I haven't seen from some of the other top teams. And I'm sure I'm biased, but Tennessee has depth that I haven't seen on any program or any program. So far this season. I watched the Duke loss to Syracuse. And I understand the point guard was knocked out. But what I saw at the end of that game was just not because they were having to leave the starters. And so. Long. Tennessee has an interesting an interesting scenario where like in the Missouri game when we had our top players grant, and Admiral and foul trouble. Whether it was planned or not coach Barnes put in three guards in college. Alex zander. Well, three essential guards. When you consider bone Bowden and. Bone Bowden in the other the other player that we have. And they just were able to present a different look to their to their play where they could throw speed just constant speed at the position and pretty dominating win with guys off the bench. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. But I don't know that there's a team right now that could match to that talent. What do you think of that? I've heard it described this way that that probably you are correct on that level. I can't remember who it was the other day may be mad Jones who was concerned about a Duke athleticism matchup right now. I think Bill it's a little bit hard to to get too deep into the tournament while we're still in January. But I like what I see from Tennessee. I mean, they to me they look like the best team in the country. Duke is the most exciting team with the best player or two. But but I'll take my chances with what rig Barnes has done the the SEC. Also, we are. I mean, I have been watching. I I heard the interview with Avery Johnson. What what an incredible coach is you can tell his players buy into his philosophy. You know, they want to play for him. And you can see the difference on those teams you can see teams with the players. Just don't seem to buy in that team really loves their coach and that coach loves his players and they are a dangerous team. They some guy said there the first four out. I disagree with that. They are counted enough to be in the tournament. Whether they will you know what they have to do. You know, what they have to do? They have to overcome a couple of losses, and that's really where they are. And that's I four outright. Now is is way too early. But you know, the win over Kentucky helps the matchup against Tennessee was significant, but they really they really hurt themselves by losing that AM game. They shouldn't have lost that game. But all we also seeing, you know, look again Kentucky scares the daylights out of any Tennessee fan right now, if we play Kentucky the second week of the season, I wouldn't have been worried as much, but we see them putting together a really really good performances all of us know, auburn's going to be dangerous, but the depth that we Auburn ever known games. But but auburn's playing without one of its key players at the moment you have to factor that in. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Now, if I could shift gears just for a moment I shared with someone online about the Tennessee women's situation. You know, I grew up in Knoxville, and I got to see Pat summitt I got to go to the campus a lot of times 'cause I ran track. In knoxville? And so I got to go to the campus and run on that old Stokely memorial flat track back in the day. So we would cross pass with with her every now, and then and and you know, I think Holly Warlick has probably gone, I'm I'm could be wrong. I think it's time to go. What I said to someone was this, look, I remember the days when Alabama was going through football coaches left and right now used to joke around with one of my customers, and and when they finally got save, and then they were winning again. I said, well, so you guys finally let bear Bryant rest in peace. And and and and when I was sharing with some Tennessee fans was this look, let's not try to look for a Pat summitt because Pat summits don't come around. But once maybe once in a lifetime, we need a coach to come into that historic program. That says I don't wanna walk in Pat summits footsteps, I want to create my own and we need to bring that program back to its prominent position where it's deserved position. It's a fantastic program. I'm sorry that they're the kids are struggling right now. I don't blame Hollywood. But it is what it is. You're either made for the job, and you're not I don't think she's quite made. For this job and thanks for taking my call. Thank you very much. And I and I will say this in defensive Holly. She she took that job over under very difficult circumstances. She she handled it with with grace. She has always done that. But ultimately, and she knows this as well. As anyone you're you're you judge by what you produce. And right now, it's I think John Adams said it pretty accurately last night here on this program. The Tennessee basketball program is a women's program is a train wreck. Ellen is in South Carolina. Hello ellen. Welcome. Paul. This is this is exciting beyond belief big fan of yours, and I became a saying mcclinton paying as well. And right after Clinton won in two thousand seventeen listening to your show and introduced the first time to Tamie who've made a wonderful, call about rolling her her staircase and honored the Clemson Tigers. It was wonderful call. I wish she would replay that you know. I just thought of that how much I mean, Tammi was was different. But how much fun Tammy would be having right now talking about Alabama losing to Clemson. Yeah. And she was I mean, it would be almost appropriate today with her excitement and her enthusiasm. And you know, we all lost a little bit with Tammy. The Clemson people love her as well as the allburn people both tiger Greeks. Well, let me say this about Clemson. I've I've been there quite a few times. And the times I have been there. I've always thought, and I've said that when I've been there that the fans there were as good as any of ever encountered. I now live in a neighborhood. I think I have a Clemson fan on on side of me. So I've gotten pretty familiar with them. And and and I really appreciate what they what they stand for. There's passionate a fan group as I've ever seen, and they should they should be proud that got they've got a program now that has gone up against the greatest coach of all time twice and beating him. Eights is is out must admit, it's also fun. But I love your show. Even like, I said though, I'm ACC person. I, you know, I would dare say the Clinton, you know, maybe Clemson people will will push back on this. But I encounter many clumps and fans on a pretty regular basis who partake here, and we appreciate that very very much, including your call. Thank you. We have a guest coming up Connor Aguirre from Saturday down south a lot. He'll talk a little bit about Davos weaning is will dabbled Sweeney ever end up at his alma mater or did beating Nick Sabin for the second time in doll that we'll take a break. Connor will come back and join us shortly to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back in Garrett. Joining us now from Saturday down south. He's written a lot about the Knicks savings situation that Georgia's situation all kinds of things Connor. Thank you. It's always so many things want ask you about. But let me start with what we just I don't know if you heard it or not. But Brandon Adams was here yesterday insinuating that savings on is on a short time table. He's in the winter of his career interpreted. Anyway, you want you agree or disagree? I tend to agree more with that. I think just with the way that the recruiting cyclists going now where it needs around business. And this is changed now having these official visits in the summer and early signing period. He's just change tonight where this is really more of a three sixty five job than ever been. I think you bring up a very point. I think that at some point he's going to say, you know, what I need to be doing this year round. And we saw really I mean, we saw this in December with with Mark richt in an urban Meyer as well. You guys that know coming into the season. Nobody really thought, hey, these are two guys who are going to step down, Dan. But you know, I think you get to that point at the end of the season where you realize man, I really don't have much of a prey cheer and price who are super accomplished. Like they are. I think that that reality to sort of sink in. So I tend to go more on the shorter side when it comes to save. And I know that we'll probably in the next week going to have Chris Lowe story come out saying that they've been not slowing down. He's going to be there for another decade or what? Ever. But. Yeah. And and and listen. I mean, we're talking about it because he is Nick Sabin and. He's answered the question the same way now for about six or seven years. I remember sitting in his office four or five years ago, asking the inevitable, and he gave me the answer. You know, he's been part of a team for his entire life. Can't think of anything else. But but at some point that answer becomes. Less than sufficient because you do start facing reality. And I wondered when you're winning championships every other year, it's pretty easy to come back. But if you don't win next year. Would you agree or disagree becomes more difficult because you're you really facing a lot of pressure? Then that you didn't have earlier. Yeah. And I think that's a that's a bit subjective to just in terms of how next season unfold if it's one of those where once again, Clemson is that roadblock, and he realizes that while even after Clemson loses all this talent from that gray twenty eighteen team and Alabama still can't get there with two of being at this level. What we expect to be the last year to it Alabama. Then I think that makes sense step back and say, you know, what even with all these number one recruiting classes, there might just be bigger force out there. And I might just might time is is this dynasty might just be over. Now. Obviously a lot has to unfold. And if I was betting money on it. I would not bet on Clemson to dominate Alabama same way headed did a few weeks ago. But you know, you gotta take all those things in the consideration. Because this is a grind. And this is the job that obviously he takes so seriously that really believe in the whole downtime and all that. And we talk about that so much, but yeah, I mean, I think that that conversation really just depends on the way that this twenty nineteen on pulse. You had an interesting pieces week about Daboh Sweeney. Who is now. To national championships into his career both against Sabin, many of wondered would ever go back to Alabama of no one knows the answer. But you certainly had a lot to say about it. Yes. I've realized that the best thing for me to do whenever I read it calms just mentioned you in the first like three graphs or so pretty good. But I go back to you know, with with devil. I go back to what you said last year when you came back from the Alabama hall of fame induction, and you're there, the master ceremonies, and you came back thinking, you know, what I think that there's a chance that this dab oats, Alabama thing could eventually happen at you know, you're thinking that beforehand. It wasn't looking great. But just seeing him kind of interact and be back at all the modern like that. I mean, it's just kind of changes things. But I think would also changes things is winning a second title. And I think that doing so in the manner in which she did just sort of changes this whole conversation because you're looking at somebody. That's forty nine years old with two titles in his last three seasons. And I in my opinion, just put together a he had a team that was more dominant than any team at saving his hat at Alabama. I know that's kind of a crazy thought. But I mean think about it think about how dominant this group pleasant. The fact that Obama had never lost like that before under saving. So to me. Why can't he just build? What saving did it Alabama at Clinton and? To like, you look at the situation, and you try and figure out the ways in which it could happen to me, the only thing that would make this really a realistic conversation as Stephen steps down and the board at Clemson. And I I don't see that happening anytime in your future. And like, I was just saying I I tend to think that that savings days that Alabama, you know, we're not looking at a seven year scenario. I think it's a lot less, and I just don't see the time and really mashing up while while they're probably won't be that desire there. And Dan activates the is going to have to come up with some sort of way to keep Daboh at Clemson. I just find it really tough to believe that he's going to say to himself. Yes, I need to embark on this this new chapter this new journey when he he's got a monster. Clemson right now. I mean, let's call it what it is in by the way. It's it's it's one of the oldest cliches in the world Connor for any industry. You always wanted to be the guy not the guy that follows the legend. But the guy that follows the guy that follows the legend in that opportunity at his age would still be there. Probably. Oh, absolutely. I mean, that's that's the things that you know, he's he's forty nine. I mean, we we forget how young Daboh it. You know, saving was this age. He was just getting started Ellis. Do you? I mean, that's how how much that Davos still hasn't front of them. And I think that if you just look at the way that he approaches this even though somebody like urban Meyer is only five years is senior. I I think that we just dabble in such a different light. Because the way that he goes about his business. He's so youthful, so energetic and guys talking about wanting to come back and play for him. And I think that, you know, his reputation in the sport right now is about as good as you can ask for and he has built this thing into where. Now, you have assistance like Brent Venables who wanna stay there as coordinators for seven years, and yeah, I mean he's being compensated. Well, but I just think that Daboh is such a rare thing going right now at Clemson with a fan base that is realizing. Wow, this is this is something special. I mean, this guy who's one through national titles in his last three years and before that stretch. Clinton. I'd won national title. So I mean, we're talking about a different kind of elevations status when it comes to what he's done with the program, and me, I think if you really tougher to walk away from that let me move to to Georgia because many always wondered or believed that least at Kirby smart was the guy that would knock Nick Sabin off his perch, certainly he's concerned saving from recruiting standpoint. And the last two games have been epic both won by by Nick Sabin. Where are you on? Where Kirby smart currently is. Why I didn't Kirby still sitting really well. I mean, let let's be honest if you just throw up the graphic earlier about this being tied for the best who you're stretching in Georgia history. I mean, let's let's not lose sight of that. I obviously the way that this season ended with the ugly loss of Texas. And then the late game of stakes against Alabama in the SEC championship. You can kind of all change the the narrative with Kirby, and some of these these early departures, you know, but to me I still come back to the belief that he is someone that is going to be a force for a long time. And if I'm the Georgia fan. Yeah, I'm frustrated with some of his in game decisions. I think that that's a realistic thing at this point the way that they have sort of flounder down the stretch. And some of these games that they would have really you talk about Clemson getting to another level Georgia would have gotten to the next level. If not for a, you know, a wrong call here wrong, call there. So to me, I still think that curvy is you know, every bit as good as we thought he was last year is still recruiting obviously extremely well. And it seemed that we expect to be a preseason top five team and compete for national championship next year. So me as long as you're having that conversation, you're in good shape. Now, did he maybe not have the season that he was hoping for? Yeah. I mean, I could make a good case that Kirby really didn't rack up the wins. The quality wins like he did in twenty seventeen in that might have made people step back and say, well, you know, this team kinda lost the three best teams face. So why why are we treating Kirby like this unbelievable coach? But to me what he's been able to do in your zoo and your three Georgia's still really impressive. I I'm not selling any stock on. Do you think if you had to take a guess who that first saving disciple that beats Nick Sabin? We'll be would be Kirby smart. Will it be JIMBO Fisher? Or would be the most unlikely combatant where would you put your money right now? I'm not gonna make the early way too early preseason prediction of saying that JIMBO is going to beat Nick Sabin. When Alabama's gotta go to college station in October. I I'm also not going to say that that's impossible to to happen. I, you know, I perfectly I'm perfectly okay predicting that when the time comes but JIMBO I think is decent chance. Just given what he's been able to already do from recruiting standpoint already beating Tom Herman. And so many of these battles in the Lone Star state to me is super impressive. So I would still probably have him at second. I still think Kirby's going to have the best chance. I think that given how close that they've been the last two years. I think it's hard to say that, you know. No that Kirby is really far away from accomplishing this incredible feat. Which is to me. I I think this comes down to what he's going to be able to change what he's going to tweak with some of those late game decisions to get over that hump. Because that is what they've been has been so good at they've been it's been better making those adjustments. I mean be bringing two and a half time in the national championship. You some of these moves curve is not making these big time moves and save is. So I took that time will come a curfew bilby my best. But and then JIMBO probably a somewhat close second. And as we wrap a back back to Alabama. And and this two week long drumbeat about Nick saban's coaching staff. He hasn't named it yet. But we have a pretty good idea of who will be there. And who won't what what have you been able to glean from? Rather long couple of weeks of of watching the shares be moved in and out in Nick Sabin office. It's bizarre. Because of what happened after it happened after this grew national championship loss. But I think there is still pretty decent chance that this type of turnover was going to happen. You gonna file bam won that game. Let's let's not forget that album put together arguably the most dominant regular regular-season ever. And these assistant coaches had been probably contacted by other teams in the in the month leading up through the playoff. And I think that because it happened after the the loss and the way that it did maybe just sort of shaped some of this narrative, I think that you know, you sit down you actually breakdown on where each guy went in what kind of position they were getting any. So these are upgrades. We expected Danny knows to be the the offense coordinator waiting and it was about Josh data's maybe filling that role as well. But to me, I mean, these guys are still leaving to get promotions. And I think that Alabama has become such a a stepping stone for so many different assistant. Coaches. And I think what's different now is saving maybe wasn't prepared to you'll with the whole, okay? My guys are getting recruited. And I I've gotta all of a sudden flip this. Switch to go from being really frustrated that we out coached significantly in the national championship to try to keep these guys on board. And maybe he didn't execute that. And I was in, you know, obviously in those meetings to hear other discussions, but I think that was the different thing here. And that's kind of what led to some of the comments from Josh Gaddis and hear about Danielle's weeding in the middle of the night. So that kind of helped sleep this this narrative, but you know, savings gonna put together a staff that's going to be plenty competent. And I have no doubt that he's going to be able to to kind of figure things out the way that he always does. But I I think that what he just saw from getting out cokes that badly by Clemson staff that he needs to reevaluate things. And obviously there there were few guys who did not perform who is expectation. So I fully expected to be able to kind of round up, you know, the pick up the pieces so too. Speak and get this thing moving in the right direction. Now, Connor Aguirre the senior national columnists from Saturday down south many. Thanks conor. Great to have you on appreciate it. I just wanted to say real quick. I I'm I'm really happy to hear about Cadillac Williams getting the Auburn running backs coach job guy that has worked really hard. I talked to him about eight months ago and hearing him say that his, you know, God was to work at Auburn now to hear him getting back to his own modern really excited that guy who's worked really hard and expect big things from him down there. We'll said and well done. Thank you very much Connor. We'll take a break. We're we're a long way to go here on the program and your phone calls are next at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Technology truth brought to you by Geico. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? Did she lose a bet? With a weed whacker? Oh, Sint, wait. No, no, no, no, no truth. Eat so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something. Gogo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Welcome back. More phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five Parenti. We were talking to Lois didn't get chance to finish the call. We'll do that. Now, lois. I'm sorry about that. I didn't didn't even get to hear your answer. The only a couple of sentences that I got, but yeah, I just wondered what the status was or what what the buzz is their own her. Yeah. Well, we're talking about Holly Warlick top. I'm sorry about that. But you know, I don't think anyone knows for sure I I would say objectively it looks pretty bad for her surviving the season as the head coach. Kind of what I was thinking. I I know she loves Tennessee Volve lady villains as much as we all do. But there comes a time. I mean, I I mean, I love them, but I can't coat so. You know, we're we're we're way beyond that. So yeah, I think that's the best way to answer your question, Lois. Thank you for calling and more of your calls at eight five five four to seventy eight five Sean in Indianapolis. Hello, sean. Hello, paul. How you doing today? We're doing great. Thank you. Great. Hey, listen, I love how all these comes and fans keep calling in talking about how great their program is. And they're just you know, Davos is now the greatest coach ever, and you know, he's just going to go on to beat savings record of six national championships. But what I like to remind them is is that they are also losing a bunch of their the the D line by touted de line that they have us here. They helped him win the national championship and who's to say that JIMBO Fisher and Kirby smart through both had the number two and three recruiting classes this year aren't gonna come up and and be Daboh. Listen, you know, Sean, there aren't any guarantees. And I don't think it he listen, I I don't want to be put as expose person for for Clemson. But I I think I think Clemson fans feel really good about where they are. I don't think they're declaring. Well, maybe some of them are. But you know, but they do have Trevor Lawrence next year. And he is in my opinion, the best player coming back in college football. I agree. I agree. But again, we didn't get I say we I'm again, I'm a Michigan fan. But I I do I I'm a bam family would say fam- is my second team. And we family didn't get that much pressure on him. I'm telling you if wants Nick Sabin gets defensive. I mean, listen, you can't you can't. I mean first of all one season does not equal another season. And agree. I I don't know. I mean, right right now, I think on January twenty third. And I probably like Clemson over Alabama. I'm sure I'll change my mind because once the NFL draft comes and goes, we're going to take a good look at what's no longer at Clemson. This was always supposed to be their year. You knew that everyone knew that. Yes. Yes. Pensively I should say. But I also will say this my last question how many championships did bear Bryant. How the how many people have won six national championships? Well, the answer's obvious to people. Right. That was a rhetorical question. Yeah. So it took Nick Sabin. Oh, long time and a heck of a lot of work to get the six now. Now, all of a sudden debt, you know, give a, Sean. Hey, listen, do not lose sight of the fact that devas Weiner has been there four consecutive years, the consistency in that program is truly Ramar. Arquebuses? So chip away all you want. But if I take a bet on who will be back in the college football playoff next year. Take an Alabama. Clemson. We'll take a break back with more. After this listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back here on a Wednesday going on, and let's continue with our phone calls and we in Maryville, Tennessee. Hello william. Great. How are you? We're doing great. Thank you. Okay. A couple of quick come into the one question, you know, going back to save, and you know, at some point in life. Whether it's sixty sixty five seventy varies challenges, become aggravations. And I wonder if he's getting to that point. And and you know, when you hire people Surtees, Ian and sales and Seri who didn't do very well at Tennessee that could be a signal these look as more adults in the room, and maybe mentoring younger coaches as gone from challenging to the raitment like you were talking about yesterday at the meeting after the game. So I would other that relies observation William, and you know, he he tried to youth movement it blew up in his face. He only had a fourteen in one season. And you know, you're right. I think I think there's a strong indicator that and I'll talk to a former coach of his the other day who who said something similarly that that that at some point, Nick. Needs people around him that will say coach, we need to do it this way that was not the case last year it because because you're faced with the inevitable ageing process, which if you don't fight it every day, what used to be a challenge to go, and, you know, run faster jump fire at cetera becomes an aggravation because you you look at it much differently. And one more thing I think that he he dealt with last year. And now, I mean doesn't matter how you know once you cross a certain age, it can be fifty f- depending on where you work your age is does become more of an issue. And I I don't know many people who like their age to become an issue, especially someone at that age who is trying to recruit seventeen year old kids, and especially someone who's biggest rival is forty nine years old right now. Yeah. And and and his other biggest rival within his league is younger. Right. And then if you if you act there in you know, the fact that you're reminded of it more you're reminded of it when you get out of bed every day. And again if varies from person to person, but I think there's some sorry. I mean, don't forget so Davos, forty-nine, Kirby, smarts, forty three. And that's the guy that he's battling for the best recruits. And you know, I've been told a little bit of a different subject. I've been told here in Knoxville by people who know more than I do that that Jimmy Pruitt Rizzaq see the heir apparent when he was there as opposed to Devo, or, you know, or of of Kirby smaller, anybody like that William biggest I think you're right, and yeah, I have heard more things from people in touch about Jeremy Pruitt since he left and the the opinion of him is at the highest level. But and you know, my fear here in Knoxville is that they'll get. Us get the volved rolling. And then if you go back home, and and full, you know, pull a a Doug Dickey going back way back to the Florida days, or or, you know, a lane kiffin, but on another subject, let me talk to you that Holly for a minute. Yeah. There's no there's an old saying in business that you gotta be careful. You're number two person is because the something might happen to the number one person and in effect, the number two person should have been a number three person. I think that Holly Warlick in, you know, I'm not an expert on many means was was a really good assistant coach. And I think that the university was correct. And did the right thing in the aftermath of some disease of keeping your chance to be the head coach there people have reservations about her. But I think the university did the right thing, they didn't shave screener graphs, and it was the right thing to do at that point in time. But. Also think the university has given for a fair shot now, and it just hasn't worked out my hope for an and I think last year the mumbling after their early round of departure muddle, eighty balls last study glass you're from Fulmer standpoint on too early his renewed tenure at the university. I think we did the right the university did the right thing. I think it's time to move on. And my hope is that she will love the university like she loves pet. So I'm at that was obvious for loyalty to that summit of my hope is that there is a way out of this that allows a lot, you know, several people to to not necessarily save face. But but but not go through the agony of AM. You know, there's there's no good way to do it. But the best way is to realize that yourself and say, you know, what I'm going to my boss and cr- announcing that I'm stepping down whether it's immediately or at the end of the season, I'm. More in favor of immediately. Because you it ends up being prolonged I remember last year. It was it was an SEC head coach who ask about who announced. He was leaving. And then the team instead of being inspired went the opposite direction in two games later. He decided or somebody who decided that he should leave early. Never big fan of farewell tours. As I say down, Louisiana ain't nothing. Good going from from that. I think it's gotta be immediate. And folks have got to get to the mindset for recruiting in the rest of the season it needs to be immediate. But hopefully, it'll be gracious, and hopefully it'll be in a respectful way. And and without a bloodbath. My question for you, Paul sure, and plus from Tennessee standpoint, and in general, you think Tennessee's men's basketball success will actually help chair Pruitt in football recruiting because of the, you know, the what goes on in Thompson, foaming Thompson Boling arena with recruits, and you think is in a carry over to that. I do for this reason, you, you know, you don't do as much anymore because of the early signing period, but in the past and even to a lesser degree, some you're a decent amount of your recruiting is done right now. And if you bring a player on campus for a basketball game in places soul. Out. And you're beating teams like we saw last weekend or any other weekend. It helps I it presents a, you know, a lot of football players also play basketball. So right. It just gives you a better feel and it's hard to to quantify. But but I would say it is an advantage. Where do you see Rick born recruiting may he doesn't seem like a one and done kind of? I I don't know that I'll miss you. Don't turn her. You know, you don't turn away as an Williamson. But but where do you see his? I mean, you where you see is recruiting going from here. I think. Oh, you'll I mean, first of all I think you will start to attract that player who will put you on your on that list. But you know. Yeah. I what he's done is beyond comprehension. But I think you'll get a higher quality highschool recruits, and he has been. But I just didn't you know, he's got a way of doing things. And sometimes I know you know, that that's the yes. Certain players do not wanna play for him because it's too difficult. I think I thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Nick Sabin has not spoken to reporters. Since the championship game. He did appear when the underclassmen came out. But he didn't take questions we understand that. He is now talking in mobile Alabama at the senior bowl, and we'll have some of that for you. When we come back.

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"Second half the program is live, and we have had a good one already Dale Brown. Among our guests. Seth green Berga. We're not done yet. We'll take some more phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. Most of the conversation today, obviously about last night and the bracket Nancy is in Jacksonville. Welcome to the show. Nancy? Well, thank you have shaved getting to call you. I'll try to listen to Pol every day. Thank you very much Bill Florida at Tennessee lady ball fan, and I understand that brackets have been leaked and at Tennessee. Yeah. What happened was this election show is coming on right now. And somehow someone ESPN got the bracket in advance and put it out there on. On ESPN you. I'm not talking about. So you're saying Tennessee did get in right? That's what I got on my telephone that they are in. And all you see from Florida is also. Yeah. By the way, Tennessee was expected to get in. That is not a big surprise that. Again, the bracket is now currently being revealed. So I'm not really sure how that mistake was made. But if you're Holly Warlick it certainly good news you're in the tournament because without getting in the tournament her. Job expectancy would have been diminished. So she's a fantastic coach she got fantastic players there. And we cruised for next year number one. So, you know, we're hoping that they'll do very well. And thank you very much. Harry is in New Orleans Harry good afternoon afternoon. Paul I like to just make a couple of comments first of all I enjoy coach Brown always refreshing to hear him at the remember doing my younger years when I was fortunate enough to coach high school football was the furthest. I got. But interestingly head coach one of the things he has to do with Fatah get into listen to coach Brown's the motivation, more beta and. A father of interest in football head coach send you to a basketball coach to get motivation. But that's what they did second report. It was a memory job for me today. And I I've never heard of Decatur Alabama. I might have seen it or read about it a couple of times, but we close Brown came on it brought me back to that Decatur Alabama. Do do you remember Paul if there was ever insurance company indicator years ago, I really don't know I've been to Decatur it's it's not too far from Huntsville on the way to Athens, which is on the way to Nashville, but I do not know. Well, I'll tell you. I think there was because a friend of mine's dad owned the shirts coming in Alabama. I'm pretty sure it was indicate that many years ago. He's sent he sent many of his, Asians and and executives to hit coach Brown speak also for motivation. So this this gentleman, all I'm not a basketball. Ball, man. I'm out an exit knows man. But I'll tell you Paul this this gentleman's head some people going to hear him speak for motivational reasons from all different walks of life. Don't you agree? I'll tell you a story not too far from Decatur though, Harry believe this was in north Alabama many many years ago, Dale Brown told me. That he was at a. Some sort of sports club. I I'm not going to mention the name of the city because I think I do remember it, but I don't wanna embarrass it. And in case, I got the wrong city, and this was in the maybe late seventies early eighties and one of the people before he got up to speak made some racial pejorative from the from the podium, and there were a number of servers in the room who were minorities in Dale walked up when he was introduced he he started off his speech by personally apologizing to all of the people that were working in the room of color. He. Ex- excoriated, the host who had offered an uttered, the racial pejorative, and you can only imagine how quickly to try to get him out of that room. That's a great story ball. And and I I'll tell you what people like that just tend to rub off on your, positively whether you know him, well, you don't he was very inspirational. And I'm glad I went to hear him talk. Even though it wasn't about football. I it certainly helped me as a young man trying to make my Mark. But thank you. I'm enjoying the shell. And congratulations to all the coach apparel. I'm happy for him thanking ball great to hear from Josh's in queens on this. Monday afternoon. Hey, Josh doing, sir. All good. All right. I'm alum of the university of Tennessee. And I just wanna talk to you about the absolute terrible officiating in the tournament. And generally throughout the season for Tennessee. When Tennessee came to Brooklyn, I was there, and you could just see the rest just shifting momentum. Making some absolutely terrible calls against Tennessee. You saw it again against LSU. I mean this ref is no longer allowed to referee an SEC tournament game because of just how bad it was reported that he was suspended after that. I mean it so as Tennessee fans, we're sitting there pulling our hair out about this officiating you, take the message boards. We're going crazy in the Kentucky game cow Zander gets to just phantom calls towels out of the game. Tennessee is without a doubt the best team in the country as long as we get fair -ficiating. And I think you're gonna see us make a running tournament. Devolved you're gonna. Take it down. They're gonna bring the championship to rocky top. We're going to be getting rowdy in New York City. But I'm just worried if I go to the final four I might have to run out on the court and give a referee a so-called stunner for just making terrible calls so recipe warns can be three sixteen on you. If you keep it up room, talking some serious queens language there after that guy got wacked the other day and in Staten Island. I would be nervous snoop Dogg is in Kentucky. You're on the air. You're right ahead. Most new dog Steve is in Alabama. Stave you there? Yes. Go right ahead. How are you doing great? Thank you. I was at the game yesterday. My daughter, I've got two daughters are all been graduates. And for my birthday, they wanted to how wonderful. Oh, how wonderful made to the game. One of them didn't get to go. But my youngest daughter carried me, and we didn't have any tickets. So we got online in and got with a guy up at Murfreesboro and got us a couple of tickets for three hundred dollars on the first floor or the first level. And some of the tickets were selling for like a hundred fifty in per day about an hour before the game started. And I didn't stay outside to leap starting. I just wonder some, but there were some a few empty seats. But I just wonder how that must've black Kentucky's fans must've sold all their tickets. I'm sure yeah. What else are they going to do? They don't want to sit there and watch that game. Yeah. But what is the the face bay that TI somebody told me his lack ninety five dollars? Is that is that Sam? I don't know. I had to go from Nashville to Connecticut. So I did not I was not able to be there for the the finals. Yeah. But I I would I would imagine. If you were if you if you were patient, you could get a pretty decent seat. We we had pretty good safe. That's all lower. But I never did recognize you. I guess you were there yesterday. No, no. I just got. No. I was in Connecticut yesterday, I had to do show last night up there. So I I went from Nashville up there. I was not as the game. I I'm also district cousin of Germany Pruitt. Actually, he's my third. Cousin a really I in. I just wanted to wish him well at Tennessee and give a shout out to my daughter's for given me such a good birthday. Even a great. That's a great gift. Steve I I'm glad that worked out well and stay in touch with us. Thank you very much Dalton in. In Louisiana is up next. Hey dalton. Any Paul father? So I was wondering if we could talk about LSU basketball, sure. Okay. Well, LSU has a great team. And all and they were stunned by this investigation into will. Wade and devante smart. And I feel like that kind of sent the team off track for this game against Florida. Do you agree? No chances team off track was poor coaching by Tony Benford. I mean, he he turned. He turned lead against Florida into a six point play. That's not smart. No, it's not. It's really not. So would that have happened with will way? No. I don't think it would have. I think LSU would've won that game. In the end in the end. It would have made a difference. LSU probably would have been a two seed instead of a three maybe not that big of a deal, but their their path to the Sweet Sixteen would have been a lot easier. Yes. It would have also I feel like the referees and the officiating in that game was absolutely atrocious. And that also allowed Florida to come back, although they should have been buried in the first half who listen everybody wants to call in and talk about officiating the Monday after a game is not really a tie. We try to talk about things on this show that maybe can be helped. We can't do anything about the officiating. I appreciate your concern though. I mean, every fan base hates the officials. We're up against a break. More of your phone calls. More guest to come we roll on on Monday. Welcome back to the program and so much conversation today about what happened last night. And what does it mean? And. Bobby Elena who are baba founder who coach who has a show in Louisville who joined us last night co hosting the ESPN selection show on ESPN radio the NCW relationship body. The I trust you made it back. Probably no no worse for wear but good afternoon in great to be with you last night. Yes. I made it back in. I've missed you Paul twenty hours. We have fun up there in the Nicole northeast. Let's talk a little bit about the the field. And certainly a lot has been hashed out. But with with nearly twenty four hours to to digest as you look ahead to this ornament, which in theory begins tomorrow night is it about beating Duke or and if so who's capable of doing that. You know, everybody's capable of getting beat. They've all been beat the zone defeated teams out there. I think as we said unless they choke. You somehow magically could play this tournament ten thousand times any more than anybody else. But they're not gonna play at ten thousand times they're gonna play once and so they can get beat or there's a game plan for how to beat probably all number one. Sees the problem is it's simple to explain. It's not easy to do. And the reason I like the best, and I think most of the experts news because they seemingly have more plan Bs and CS than anybody else. They don't shoot it. Well, but they defend you to the point where you don't even shoot it to their level. They only get twenty nine percent three point shooting, which is off off the charts. Good. So even though fair only making thirty percent chances on I may still make more threes than you, and they rebounded, and they defend they put pressure on the ball, and they overplay the wing, and they get steals which leads to run out such sleep easy basket, which leaves desire on going out of his mind. And then all of a sudden momentum changes and so. You know, they don't just if they miss. I can go get it. They got Barrett can go to the post. They have lots of plan Bs and CS, and I think a lot of other teams don't so I think that's why I like him best. But now, there's there's I'm probably seven teams and again in our hypothetical ten thousand tournament schedule, there's probably seven that would win it, you know, more than once or twice in there who you suspect North Carolina lost by a point and be twice during the regular year and Virginia did not play on the ACC term with boy during the regular season may have some spectacular games. And if those are shooting getting younger hunters is on his game. They're going to be a tough out, Gonzaga. It's no accident. They all the metrics. Love them. You know, as free Burger's been, you know, adamant to point out. Michigan state not only one the regular seasons. They wanted to turn men in a very very high quality conference and the big and Kentucky has come on at the end of the year with a guy who knows how to coach them to runs in bars. So no, it's not a matter of its against the word. World. But I I would always take the sealed anybody term instead of one team. Give me those sixties just makes sense. I'd probably take them against the heels the champions gonna come out of that that group probably that's hopefully, Bob them. Then with Bob seen Zion play number times. This you're doing work for a not only your one of your jobs with Louisville, But with with ESPN, and I just keep hearing people try to compare him to other players, and they they come up short because he's so overwhelming you saw him again last week courtside at the ACC for those who have only seen him on television. What's it like to look right in front of you and see him and try to describe what what what he does out there. I mean, he is he'll he'll your eyes will pop open as your physical 'cause they are short there. He's incredibly big and strong. But he's also unbelievably fact that he's really wide on steep. He's got very soft can't which is another credible tonight that big and small so those things you're there for watch for three minutes, and you know, this that, but the thing that jumps out at you. If you watch him for more than three minutes, always how smarty and he's just such a smart player. And I went on my wife's not watching replays. The huge if I were imagining it through true. And it's true that he moves towards where the ball is going faster than anybody else on the floor. He knows where it's going. And then he's got great physical skills to even if you hit note was going, and he left the same time. You did he probably beach the Maltese so quick that the fact that that he and -ticipant so well, and when he gets there if he gets his Mitch on it, you're not gonna take this is so strong. And then when he you know, if it does secure and there's broken plays. Now, you got a lot ball turnover numbers racing up the floor. He sees the court. So well, he makes tremendous facets. These are really good and willing passer. That's a pretty good combination. When your day and strong and quick and fast. You got good hand you see the floor your teammates love you. You love to play. You know, the enthusiasm just loses out of him. It you have a lot of people out there. Don't like to kind of that. This is one of those types of kids where you're gonna have a lot of people said I can't stand to it's hard not to love that gets. I mean, h he gets it. He nothing fazes him they knocking around nothing getting castrated. He's not complaining to the referee. He plays with a smile on his face. That's an easy kid to like an admire and he's also kind of kid that can carry your team in the postseason above your former coach you come from a coaching family on the other side if your game plan. Is there anything you can do other than just gonna try to improvise as the game goes on where I think, you know, it's it's again, they still be plane Bs and CS and DS they can beat you the problems you have to all these things to take care of the ball. You're gonna have to really really concentrate on moving the ball. Not like trade Jones get in your point cards face and force line ball turnover. She gotta take care of the ball. You're gonna have to make sure that you get back and defensive transition. So they'll get easy baskets, try and get your defense tack and beat him down the floor pack it in and make sure they have to shoot threes. Because that is the one thing they are not and we have enough that on that. They're not a good three point shooting team. They may have one game or two or stretch where they make a few. But they're not good at that. So and but then you're still not done. Because even if you do all that. Now, you gotta make sure the giant doesn't get to the glass. So you that's that's four things, but they're not impossible. But they're not easy. I mean, you're going to have to concentrate on every possession offensively. And they all five guys are gonna have to sprint back and give. Can have to pack it in and then you're gonna have to make sure that you gang rebound. Then if you do all that. Yeah. You can have a chance. But that's why they're so big issue might go that and you still might not win. Because I mean, he's he's gonna find a way to get a rebound somebody. I forget about going the interviews together. So forgive me. But it was some other analysts made a great point might not even on our show last night. I don't remember making Myron Senate. He's the kind of guy that you know, if the game is close in a time out. He can just say, hey, Z. I need you to and then fill in the blank, I need you to shut down Johnson. Then he'll do that. He'll he'll sue his father's face. You won't let the kid catch vol deny on the whig. Hey, hazy, we get heroin on the glass, and he'd go. Click and he'll go get the next five rebound. You know, we getting no points in the paint. They'll find a way to get the ball in the paint and muscled up between two defenders and scoring traffic. I the only he's not going to do is. If you say, we're really not making any threes, he can make it. But I mean, he certainly not exceptional at that. So but all the stuff I mean, he can do all those things and. So you know, whatever the game needs you can look to him and he can provide it for you way, surrounded by pretty good player. Maybe it's the first pick their maybe I mean, he was he was a national player of the year last year in high school, and he's the real deal. He's wall he can score on the cash and and into system. Sure, but he can get in the ladies drives south they play well together. Trae Jones is the perfect point guard for the team. He's been he is uncanny involved offended. You cannot shape that guy know has had his ups and downs. He's not been great. But came radishes like your fourth us player. You got pretty team on your hands before you go. Bobby Tennessee Kentucky from the SEC both on the to line. A lot of people think one one one one or both has a legitimate shot at getting to the final four. How would you assess their chances? I like, you know, I love them. Both the numbers say Kentucky has a better chance there there. Ten members fit the profile of recent national champions of adjusted offenses in just justed. Offensive rankings are both in the top fifteen. Tennessee's offense is in that group. Tennis's defense is just outside it, but it's not so far outside that it's crazy. And you know, you do if still use the eyeball test a little bit, and I love Tennessee's grit. They played tough. They play together they play well they mesh together. Well, they have a, you know player of the year caliber and Williams, so he can put you on his back and carry a little bit. So they think they both have really really good chances. And you know, of course, it depends on matchups, and blah, blah, blah. But I know thank you the go too far in a limb to say when when we list those teams that, you know, have the best chance that dukes, and the Carolinas Virginia's Zach is Kentucky's definitely in that list. And I don't think it's much of a stretch to Tennessee in there either. Also, so yeah, I mean, I I I think they both have a very a chance to make deep runs federal fours. And maybe win the whole thing before you go. I know you're doing the. Alabama game in the NRT. And you've done a lot of NRT games. And I'm really interested. Because when you don't make this field in Alabama was close, but not really on on the cut line. What's what are those first round games? Like because so often team who should be winning easily fails to show up. Yeah. You make it very point, by the way. And I'll tell you story later, privately I'm not doing that game. Found out Lewis game Thursday or thirty into Moines. Every hard to do. Delusive into specs. That's okay. Let's let to know your questions are really good one. Because I talked about that with people the first game you play. Yeah. There is some motion Hegel. There's no question if you can't get past that. That's when you see a team lose probably should be full FTE played that game players are players, man. And you you realized the crowd gets into it like in other arenas. I've been you know, they it's not part of your season ticket plan. It's so that you'll get a bunch of fans that haven't been able to come to the game a lot, and they're sitting three rows off the court for the most passionate fans you have. And so it's not as big as droplets allow crowds. And then you win the game. And you know, you start thinking about, hey, it'd be pretty cool to go final four New York and play me Barton and all of a sudden the people rally, but no it's not every team. We actually Fimat guest that the best analogy would be bowl games. I mean, you know, certainly, you're gonna get excited if you're in the the playoff the fourteen playoff, and if you're in one of the New Year's polls, but you know, there's some others. There's some. Teams that are not happy there a lesser bowl game. And they don't come out and playing their best. But I listen, I, you know, it's part of your job as coach get your guys ready. And I I don't listen again. I know your football touchy. I don't mean to to to you know, a the Smerch football. But frankly, it's a lot harder to get me on IT that isn't a bowl game. And there's only sixty eight NCAA teams in thirty two. And a teams that's one hundred three fifty five the bowls are what seventy out of one thirty or something he was four and a half. So you not even not even a third of the basketball team. So yeah, a couple of things just became eligible. All we were talking for. It's if you can get them excited to play. I mean, we've alerts the fans here just rally they made it to the elite eight actually. And she see tables, Mississippi State and have one of the. They have one of the public great run. And if you get to New York makes sense, you're great. I mean, I've been the NCAA took it over a run it just like in the NC double A tournament. So the mechanics of the same the players treated, very well. And so once you get closer to go into New York, I think the Seattle picks up. But you're right. I game. You gotta make sure your guys have their heads in the right place. Well, enjoy demoain. Cold mortgage morning. Can't be. I mean, if they are the people listening though, you probably victory vacation plans to hit the Iowa for March. So maybe I'll see some of the listeners. Bobby great to talk to you. Thank you. As always taught you always enjoy take care. You got it. Bob on joining us. We were together last night and another cold place. Connecticut. I I had all the hot spots. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five and we are coming right back. Welcome back. Glad you with us. So let's continue with more phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five Mike is up next. Hey, mike. Hey, paul. I'm a big UK fan, and I was really disappointed with what happened at Tennessee on the seating. And I'm gonna tell you why. Okay. I first of all, you know, they they they played your championship game Saturday instead of Sunday. But in the past when Kentucky's won the tournament what we did on Sunday never matter. They always, you know, always the president of the committee would always say well though, Sunday game you guys need to play on Saturday. And I really thought that, you know, even though Tennessee, you know, they didn't they got beat by twenty by Auburn. I thought they deserved a number one seat. I know a lot of Kentucky fans will be unhappy with me for that. But in the past they have not taken into account. That's Sunday game. They say, hey, we've got well. Larry my Comey disagree on when I talked to Menard near last night. And he said what he is supposed to say. But he also said this it's Hennessy a beaten Auburn. They would have been a one seed in the west, and I. I agree with that problem for Tennessee. I mean when when you're when you're leaving the bracket when you're putting spots in the bracket like they have to do there's no margin of error. So Tennessee wins there one they they lose. They get. I still felt like they they came out of it. Okay. Though. Yeah. I think they did. They got the number five, but you know. I think Michigan state deserve the number five. Well, I I agree with you. But I still, you know, Kentucky fans word disappointed that Tennessee didn't take care of all. But I mean, it kind of negate what I I will say I think it hurt the league because there's a lot of prestige about a one seed and last year on this day. The the SEC was really, you know, the talk of the industry, and it's hard to even though it could be at the end of the season with three number one seeds from the ACC. It certainly changes the perspective a little bit one other quicky pollen. That's you know, the big ten every year. They get right up where the ACC in the most scenes, stop and think about this. They've only won one national championship since nineteen ninety three. The FCC. Good football is one six national championships. Anyway, thank you, Paul. Thank you very much. Great to have you on. Let's continue Keenan in Louisiana. Hello keen nice of you to call. To call. Oh, man. I wanted to ask your paying off them. Sure. Based on talent alone. I'll far you think LSU can possibly go and turn. Well, let me let me answer this question. Two ways on talent alone. They can win the championship. But it takes more. I mean, I mean, raw talent wise, I I would put them maybe in a class of their own. But talent alone is not going to win you in NCWA tournament championship. I respect that. Now, do you think that LSU two losses against Florida are more indicative of their real potential than their wins over Kentucky and Tennessee? No. I mean, I just think we need a little more sample from LSU than we saw Friday against Florida. I mean, they by the way, I mean, they weren't they weren't commanded. I game until the boneheaded technical by Benford. So well aware. Yeah. I mean, I just I, you know, I'm not trying to I don't know the guy, but you don't you know, you got the lead protector, particularly don't get. I mean, only it was almost a seven point play. So I mean, he he to me is the X factor in this tournament is you have to. I mean there there is an element of of coaching that that's incredibly important in may not be so much in the first game. But that turnaround if I've studied this before the great coaches are the ones who win on short. Rest at meaning the turnaround where the gape where the game planning is on the fly, and you're doing it all night long. And that's where the great coaches for really shine a lot a lot of coaches can be prepared to win with seven days. We're in this case five days preparation. Thank you for the call. Jeff in Kentucky is next. Jeff. Hey, paul. There could be on the show. Thank you very much. And you do wonderful job. Appreciate. Avak make one or two little comments. Okay. I think Tennessee got screwed. Okay. They should have been on seed. Okay. I feel you know, and I think Alabama definitely got screwed. If you go by the way that they did the slack shin this year. Our Bama was in the thirties in the rankings, by the way, they said that they placed them, and they didn't even make make the cut. Yeah. Well. I mean, I don't think now data out saying down the stretch didn't help themselves. No. But I think by the way, I totally in my opinion. Alabama got what they deserved. Okay, tennessee. I mean, listen, everyone has a different opinion of this. I felt like Tennessee needed to to do a little bit more the head that lost to Auburn that we could go, and they they had a great resume. But you know, they they do have a win over gone zag. But you know, it's it's fairly convoluted how they do this. So I'm not about to to to to debate the the metrics, but to Tennessee's metrics don't quite hold up to to a few others. Thanks for the call. I mean, I think they did pretty well to get where they did more of your calls. Eight five five two four to seven to eight thousand. It's been a busy show. We have another hour and change to go. We hope you'll stick around ten you. With more calls more guests to come. As we've got a busy show Dale Brown joins us suited Seth Greenberg as we get ready for tomorrow the tournament begins Tuesday night. That's a check in. With Cody Kentucky, you are next up. Hello coding. We're doing great. Thank you. You know, what we complain too much about this this year? I think they did a lot better than they have these past few years on that team. Steve laws hardest of course, you know. But I think Tennessee losing knob or you know, kind of you know, into too good as well. Did you say earlier that if he would have won? They would have been the one thing that the west. Yes, that is correct. Well, they kind of I guess about losing that game. But did hardware too much because now they're playing in Columbus, and possibly a little boy was in the way, they would have to go all the way to what is. Yeah. I mean, I think I'm in San Jose. I'm that's area. Listen. Nothing. I'm world traveler, but I've been to the west coast few times this year. I don't care. How old you are? Or how young you are is especially when you're six eleven it's a tough trip. Yeah. Even for France. It's tough for no. Land standpoint, Tennessee, the only way it could have even been remotely better would have been to end up in Columbia, South Carolina, but not much better. Yeah. Well, that's a little bit overrated. I heard someone say well, man, we're to bad break for for Tennessee. They could end up playing Cincinnati and Columbus. There's there's a difference between playing Columbus and Cincinnati. They're not exactly the same city. Know, how far they part exactly I think about three hours. But you listen, I mean. In the same state. I think that's a little bit over that's a fan situation more than anything else. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be good. You know to get away from everybody, and you know, go to down tax Bill and possibly to k- the city. You know may be good to be away from the state and the way in your life, messing, Tennessee. Tennessee's a resilient team. They've had one or two off off days this year. But. In terms of the cohesiveness of that team. It's it's hard to find a team any better than that. Oh, yeah. I got I got the you came up on four for a rematch of. I got wanted to seize that have lead eight they probably won't end up that way. But I hope it does. I wanna see the big teams get through and see some good match ups hope south. Thank you. Yeah. That would be great so UK in Tennessee again in North Carolina again, just. What hot snoop is up next? Hey, snoop. Hey, how you doing? We're doing great as good Paul. This is Paul. Yeah. Did you meet someone else? I could get you ran out. I kinda liked you show. You weren't there on everything. Thank you. Thank you very much for look I got a question to ask you may. Way. You think about Kentucky they'll make it to the fan of for. I think they've got a. They'll make it to the elite eight. I'm still undecided on whether they can get past North Carolina or not. Yeah. I mean, they've been doing good for the last has since the FCC turn red without they had a good game between Tennessee, but it was a match up. You know, Tennessee one the first one to Kentucky one the second one. I think that means right there. They could have won the third one. I mean, you know, when they had a reason they run by eight with three minutes ago. I mean, if I had said to you snoop. Okay. I'm going to bet you straight up. I'm gonna give you Kentucky. I'll take Tennessee you're up by would you take in the bet? Quite natural. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. That doubled doubled the bed. Yeah. I mean, you gotta realize Craig Tennessee. You got off in the Harbin did Tennessee. They hate blue. You know, Tennessee out, you know. Well, I mean that was an aberration. I mean I- Auburn shooting empty it was I mean, I could not believe it. I was saying I mean, they weren't even. I mean, they were just I I'd like to get somebody to tell me about the farthest shot back from Auburn. They were just give me the ball throw it. Everything was going in. Yeah. Me on any good teams. But they waited, you know, so far, you know, there's the middle court, you know, and he didn't better and better. You know, the way I feel it me snoop. I sincerely apologize revenue cut this. But we will talk to you soon. One more hour to go.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried passion than patterns re of college. Football leaves Keer is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast. Meant to Friday. Glad you're here. And what a weekend is in store, especially if you're a college basketball fan, lots to talk about on our program today. Welcome to Friday. It is March. You know, it is let me double yet Marsh. I can you believe it we've made it to March already and the madness of March well underway this weekend lie going on. Let's get right to the headlines before we get to your phone calls SEC showdown between Tennessee and Kentucky. Last couple of weekends. We've seen get battles. Like this. Tennessee at Kentucky. Tennessee had LSU and Kentucky returns the favor heading into Knoxville. They won the first one last year. They lost both regular season games at one in the tournament. Yeah. That's that was last year. The what happened the last time these two minute that was about two weeks ago were up. Annecy and Kentucky their first of two regular season two meetings. The balls are on the longest winning streak in school history. So simple to get the ball inside the BJ Washington. And he is looking like an NBA post player Travis with a hustle rebound. And. This is giving away from Tennessee have been manhandled rejected by Travis numbers for Kentucky. What performance by? Here tonight. Take it out number one. Cats did it and when teams meet twice as an ape as AP top ten opponents look at what has happened in recent years. Tap in a couple of times, it will happen again as that is the headliner there. Couple of other important games in the SEC. And we will talk about all of that. As we roll through this program big show on tap, lots to talk about with John Adams. We'll talk about the the lady vol situation in just a moment as we welcome John to the program. But but I the men can Tennessee's basketball home court help the vol's makeup seventeen against Kentucky John Adams joining us. John thanks for for the time. Let's start with the game tomorrow night since that is upbeat, and we are cheery network here. So let's talk about what's at stake for Rick Barnes team number one in the country for six weeks. And lately, it's just seems like everything is a struggle. Yes. It is. I mean, it's tough game that helped me, sir. But omits a pretty good team food tough loss against LSU right at that. Lily, the focus now kind of make those points against Kentucky Kentucky, really manhandled Tennessee in Lexington. And I thought the crowd I've been a lot of games at refereeing grid years. And I've never heard a louder more passionate crowd than that one. And I'd be interested to see Tennessee, stay can match that Saturday. John lot of theories on what's going on here. What is yours in relation to the the slide? And and as I say that I realized Tennessee has lost on the road to two of the better teams around but still. Well, I Paul the team his lip so good and almost flawless for port of the season stood any loss. I think can can create concern. But. Yeah. Early in the season when you look at the schedule you need that could be a problem. I think the first thing that comes to mind for me that Tennessee staff is okay when you're playing mediocre but list team when you're playing the really elite teams like Kentucky or like what LSU has become. I don't think Tennessee backups can measure up and that becomes a problem. And so you have your your starters and your main guys pointing in a lot of minutes and so in could have wearing data. That's that's the thing. I would I'll look at the same. I wonder if maybe it's running out of steam a little bit well that will be determined tomorrow afternoon. And then Tennessee two more games to go before. Or heading to Nashville, John let me switch gears to what happened last night. I was watching the game right here on the SEC network. And I guess I shouldn't have been surprised because this has been a program in turmoil for some time we've talked to you about it. And you had some pretty strong comments recently. But this was the low point of the season, and maybe of lady vol's history, which prompted you to write a column that was just published on the Knoxville news sentinel website, and obviously a newspaper tomorrow why it's time for Tennessee lady vol's basketball to fire Holly Warlick, you don't doesn't need much explanation. But I'll ask you to explain anyway. You said it a you said he shouldn't have been surprised that for all of Tennessee struggles this year only games in which is under teeth. Honestly didn't think it was hot. I know anything specially possible in supporting them. But I just didn't see it. How the possible for Tennessee on its home court to lose van Ville, which is lost twenty one games. It went one game in the conference could loss. Stay games in a row in what you so challenged athletically and in quickness so that that just struck me. I just thought it was a low thought the twenty one point lost Alabama was a was alot previously. But that's their past. And I guess not only you look back, and can you lose to a team with that little talent compared to Tennessee, and you have a pattern here over not not just games. But over keys, we're Tennessee. Repeatedly under chase at always a handful of all Americans at least, and it just doesn't measure up to that recruiting billing, and you wonder you you get to play players change. And we had diamond seal for Sadi's Russell came yard and that team under chief. Now, you have a whole new group really and mainly sophomore freshman team, but it's under achieving even more. So and and the common denominator there is coach. And I just think at some point you just go to your fans to the program's history. You need to make a change. And it's not just about wind and losses. It's about how this team performs on the court. It just looks like it sometimes it it's never played together. It'll so poorly coached the players don't have much basketball savviness at all. It's just a really bad luck. And I just think Tennessee fast. Better than that. John when you were here, I don't know three or four weeks ago. And this was a hot button item. You made some comments about in the administration at Tennessee, not really demanding a an elite program. I understood what you were saying, but there's a difference between competing for championships in losing to team like Vanderbilt last night. Do you think anything has changed? I don't know call, but it should have that. That's exactly what I'm looking at. I mean thing. Okay. You're not living up to pass standards of a really story procam. You're not going to file for all that stuff dot competing for championships. But even if you're not willing to go out and get a coach with the final four national championship as in pay that kind of money at least get a coach who bring out the best in the players who will seemingly motivate them, and who will demand that they the least execute the basic fundamental in your tackling. Right. That that was like a drop off there. That's that's way below the competing for championship lines. And I just think Tennessee Philip former the AD he needs to look at that. And and really see what's going on with the program. I heard from some people today in you've heard from far more than I have the that there. There's a hope that Hollywood liquid will take the initiative, and and go to fill up or someone and say, listen, let's figure out a way to get out of this mess, and and I'm going to step down. I mean, I know that sounds great in theory. But this this is a big time peration here. Do you see playing out like that? Or you think when the tournaments over next week or at some time before they go to her. Well, here here's a way to do it. I mean, you can. Yes. It's really semantics you're you're firing coach. But you go to her and say Holly. If you resign here. We'll be the settlement. You'll resign. We'll move on and make it maybe easier for her. I think that would be the way to go about it. Then one thing to remember about Holly Warlick is she really never pursued coaching jobs. She was all time assistant UT in didn't have a lot of ambition about being a head coach she was really content here. And she was an integral part of Pat summitt staff for many years. She was Pat summitt point guard and I live over the last season when Pat was coaching and that was extraordinarily difficult because Pat was not anywhere near one hundred percent the Alzheimer's without an effect. But she was still coaching. And she was on the bitch. And she was head coach at least in title, but Holly was really having to run the team, and she was also having in a way to kind of help manage Pat because of a very vicious disease. And I just thought she did a remarkable job because she's not just dealing with their boss. She's dealing with a very close friend. And I thought it was just an extremely difficult thing to get through. And she did that. And I think I think most fans really like Holly Wardi, they really do. She's a very likable person on the most likeable coaches of been around. But they're just comes at time. When you've got to let the wins and losses and what's going on with the program and make a change. And that's what they'll applaud when these did it John Adams many. Thanks, john. Appreciate it. Look forward to seeing you soon and talking more about this. Another subjects. Thank you for being on. Thanks. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast and really excited to welcome Jordan Davis. So the program a big time country music star he hails from north west, Louisiana. In other words, he's an LSU fan and Jordan first of all thank you very much. What are what a pleasure to welcome you to our program. Good afternoon. Absolutely, thanks for having me on Palm Beach fame. Well, thank you. Let's let's just kind of take the I mean, obviously, a lot of people know, your music, certainly country music fans. No your hits, and and what you've done, but let's let's start with the beginning. I if I understand correctly, you grew up in Shreveport, which is a pretty good music town in and of itself. What were you always interested in in music growing up or did you have other go ahead? No, it was it was kind of. You know, my mom was very valid in church choir. So you know, watching my own play on Sundays and Wednesday nights. And my dad, you know, play guitar around the house, and and actually my uncle was a songwriter Nashville. It has someone's cut by Tracy Lawrence. It had success as a songwriter. So it was definitely music with something on new, you know, from very very young age some. Yeah, it started young and lucky to still be doing today. No doubt. And and I'm sure I mean, I've never done it. But I mean, you've had some some big hits and some big success. But that that is not an easy field to be successful in. What was it like just making making the entries into national? And I'm sure people telling you what you could do and in which you couldn't a whole lot more. What you couldn't? Yeah. You know, right after graduation mood Nashville, you know, with really just planning on writing songs and trying to get someone's cut by other artists, and and get them to the radio, you know, never really had dreams of actually being on stage and singing, but I think, you know, wouldn't played my first show ever ain't now this was after I moved Nashville or and just kind of fell in love with in a mood in two thousand twelve so it took a little while, you know, the first four for almost five years in Nashville pretty tough, and you know, bartended and doing whatever I do pay the bills, and luckily, you know, last couple of years we started having some success. I mean, you always you always see it. And there's you know, you watch. The award show and everybody talks about the breakthrough. And there've been songs written about it to about Colin, dads and moms and and friends from back home. But when when you finally broke through and in, you know, not only got your music recorded. I mean, you've written songs for a number of people when you when you finally got on the charts. What was it like? Kind of. It's almost something that that you know, it's a goal. And it's something you want to have happen. But I think when when it happens, it, it it's almost like it's not real, you know, and it took so long for, you know, after the first one, I it was it was still kinda like man, this this doesn't even feel like this is real life. And and it's still everyone's when you walk in and see, you know, plaque or whatever you're kinda like, and that really happy, and in, you know, it's funny. I just got back last weekend. I was the grand marshal in the mortar girl. Pray Beck and Shreveport, and and to see some friends and just to kind of sit around and talk about nuking I'll believe this is happening well plane so torn with some of the people were torn with. So it is just a lot of pinch me moments. Right back to that. How co is Jordan to either walk in someplace or flip on the radio? And there you are. I mean, there's no better feeling in the world into, you know, especially you know, that's what I moved to town to I wanted to have my sauce heard ready. So it never gets old. But never does. You know, I hope that something that, you know, no matter the the successes, you know, that are that hopefully still are to come. You know, every time you hear something that you love as much as we saw writers making songs, then you get to hear them Brady over here people Lebanon as well as the best in the world talking to Jordan Davis. So I buried the lead you grew up in Shreveport sports fan. You went down to Baton Rouge. So kind of take us through that part of your life. Because as you know, this is a sport show that hears from fans all over the country. So I know fans not only from LA shoe, but everywhere else would like to hear about your loving and devotion to your LSU Tigers down. And I mean I bleed purple goal. You know, it's a those were I say that those are the best half years of my life. I think a victory lap and a half. But it was you know, Baton Rouge is such a special place, you know, obviously athletics. But but also just the university in general. And and and I just did a whole lot of growing up. I think everybody in college. You know, I think you know, the, obviously go there for education. But thank you, you find out a lot about yourself in school. And and I was very very blessed to be able to say alumni of universities like LSU. And also think that we we addressed cows town in the country already too. But although I gotta say I was in Athens last night. And after does a pretty good job after that's a really cool town. Yeah. I mean, I I would have to agree with you on that. And and as you know, it's a big music town as well. Yeah. But we played a Civic Center down there. But a couple of months ago play George theater and manage really cool. We'll get see saw a couple of football players out there. I think from was out there, which is really cool, and man is just a just a good night. So when you when when you do appearances like year in Athens, a little bit of robbery between LSU and in Georgia. I mean, do you wear your your your school colors on your sleeve, or do you try to you try to be a little more neutral because there are a lot of rec. There are a lot of there are a lot of music buyers out there the. The and you still you wanna you wanna serve your loyalty to university. But you also on record. No, you know, I so I actually played the Georgia theatre the week after LSU be Georgia this past year and we played on Wednesday night. So I couldn't help it say something about it. But I was very, you know, like, hey, you know, y'all gotten us we get all this week. You know, and I I feel like I lost a few people there. But you know, I'm proud tiger. Man. I you know, and I was proud to victory. So I try to put it back. But sometimes it sometimes I can't I take quick story. I Taylor Hicks who did the the song for our program one American idol fourteen years ago, and as you know, you you're trying to get people to vote for you from every walk of life. And he he actually pulled this off even though I knew differently being a friend of his he he made Auburn fans and Alabama fans think he was a fan of both schools. Say tough. But what he won and he had the support of everyone. But so tell me what new year on tour right now. What's what's it? Like, I mean, you hear you you watch the movies. You read about these tours? I I know they're they're fine in in rewarding. But they're also I would think quite a grind. Yeah. They're pretty grueling. You know, I think the thing about it too. Is it's a whole lot of you know, hurry up and wait, you know, you load in early in the morning. A lot of buses driving a lot of times. Luckily, we in Athens. We're in winning toss them nicer. The wasn't too bad though that we got to sleep the bus park for a while. But you know, you wake up you load in and you just try to find things to keep you busy. You know as a song writer, I write a lot out here. And and try to stay say so try to go work out a little bit. And and just kind of you know, you know, we start the up and start doing, you know, little acoustic shows like four thirty so and then we play at nine. So it's a it's a long day. But man, I wouldn't turn into the world of it. Happy have to be playing shows. Tell us about writing music because I mean, I've gotten to know some songwriters, and you know, sometimes they can go into go into a studio and and crank it out or sometimes they're walking down the street or in the middle of the night. I mean, where do you get your ideas? And how do you compile it and make it into a song? I actually read a lot about my favorite songwriters. And then kind of what they did. And you know, one of my favorite ones that sonar everywhere. You just gotta find them. And you know, I get this and people talking, you know, from some of the stuff they say, I read a lot. So a lot of times through books are come across something. No, either some, you know, some of the idea or or the way somebody word at something. And I'm always kinda just homing Melody's in hope that those two intersect at some point. And and it turns out to be you know, good, but also fell right through. So a lot of friends that that are great songwriters as well in. And they bring a lot of ideas. The. Yeah. I mean, it's something that you know is a song songwriter. You can never turn your brain off the oil. It'd be listening to see to see where the next idea is gonna come from. Growing up. And even when you got started who are your primary influences as a songwriter. My dad was you know, like, I say that you writer in the play the Tauron house, and he was he's a Jim crow. She John Prien Chris office and fan. So I was probably the only six year old kid running around saying trophies, France. So, you know, I'm glad that I had that kind of as, you know, I'm I'm still as I think John best the best on their still listen to him a lot. But those were the guy that they kind of started me in some writing in, you know, as you go up and you start hearing a John Rosario Embi pop music. You know, it all kind of just comes together. And what I think is the way I make music. So man, I'm kind of all over the board that. I grew up a crochet fan myself. And sadly, as you know, he died not too far from Shreveport natural this in a plane crash at a very young age. Yeah. I know. That's a terrible thing actually, my freshman year college. I I was at north western state where he played his last show practical, and yeah, you know, we went to he he still had a lot of great music within the of those sad. Relish. She's got a pretty big win. The mar I know you you're all over the place, but they are playing basketball in enemy territory. You you feel pretty good about the Tigers. Man. I really think you know that in the game was when. Stay on she sporting theft seen in a long time. And and then they get great score. I think they're super balance, you know, it it's gonna be a tough one. But I think they're gonna make a pretty good run here in a couple couple of weeks. Jordan. Thank you. It's been it's been a pleasure. Getting to know you, and I hope you'll come back and re really enjoyed hearing from me, and I know you're on the road and a lot of fans out there but comebacks in. Absolutely. Thank you so much. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Eight is Friday afternoon. And that means one thing are we hope it's a weekly. Visit. He's been nice enough to come on lately. And we're always thrilled to have Seth Greenberg on game day Tamar in Houston. So Seth joins us. Thanks for the time as always and I've gotten one hundred calls already tonight about tomorrow's game in Knoxville between Tennessee and Kentucky. So I'm gonna get out of the way because I know nothing, but you know, it all so have added. What's what's his game all about? Yeah. Interesting. A couple of things one I think Kentucky's ability to contain your bone and Syrian descent white. You gotta start with grant Williams. You gotta start with Admiral Scofield. But to me when I think about Tennessee it starts with Jordan bone. You've gotta guard of in transition. You got to keep them out of the lane. You gotta limit at his impact on the game because you control bone. It's easy to control, Greg Williams and Scofield. So that's the first foremost recalculated. The next thing is without re Travis without re travis's baked physical body without re travis's ability to grant Williams just one step off the block. It sounds silly. But if you move one step off the block, then all of a sudden those double teams that they ran item you can get to that much quicker. And then when he goes you can wall up and keep them in front re Travis did a great job defensively, and they went down to into the post some offensively. He got the found like, oh, how do they go grant Williams without re traps? I think that's going to be something that. You need to watch. And then I think the final thing in terms of the Taki side at Tennessee is is a great job at school. So I thought that Calvin Johnson was really good. He made a bunch of shots early. But no one talked about his defense. I thought as defense was really really good. So those things outside of and the other thing, you know, Doug. They gotta take care of the ball in a tough environment twelve turnovers start to gain the the other night against Arkansas. You turn it over twelve hundred first half against Tennessee. You're not gonna have any chance to get back in again in the second half. So those this big important, and then the one thing that Tennessee's got a really good job of PJ Washington when he gets bit left block, Paul he destroyed Tennessee, they got us on the left block you work to the middle jump after jump after jump hook. They've got to either garden earlier of get the ball out of his hands. So as you're watching the game those things to look for great stuff here is we talked to. Greenberg. Seth Tennessee fans are feel a little bit anxious right now they lost that game week ago. They lost the game to Kentucky. They nearly let one go and I realize there's still plenty of time left in the season. But is it what is it critical for them to win this game just to stem, the some of the the negativity or is it just another game along the way to the tournament. Their season. I in a bigger to have great. They're gonna come in first or second in the late depending on what else she does. Or maybe third it their goal to beginning year wasn't just to win. The SEC championship is to make it to the final four and competes off chip. So they've got to get the playing their best basketball. And I I think that's the biggest thing they've gotta get some bench play. They're not getting anything out of their bench. They've gotta get some quality in separate bench. And then Kyle and he's got to have a little bit more impact on the game and grants. Gotta be more consistent. I look for Rick to try to punch that thing inside. Often against Kentucky. If they can't get grant basically going then. You know, you're in Tennessee, San you've got a concern. But I think they kind of went away from him a little bit probably not on purpose, but they've got to establish grant Williams at their very best when they're establishing. Grant warriors everyone else is playing off but their bench doesn't play. And they don't just get some quality minutes out of Carlisle Zander. That's an issue. Let me let me flip to LSU from moment to that. They come away with with that big win there. You know? I think they're they're they're healthier. At least. That's what most people are saying. And I know the kind of get overshadowed a little bit by what's going on with Kentucky and Tennessee. But it's hard to overlook them as we as we are now in March. Yeah. They're really all. I mean, it's interesting. They win those back to back games. They went without obser- trade waters the sea trout waters plays in the next game. If he gets a three game suspension, then he probably had some off the court issues. Let's be honest, but our business three consecutive games in a row, but they're actually playing a little bit better basketball in some ways without the ball's. Not get stuck. Devante sportsman, absolutely terrific. A more guys are getting touches. And they've been really good defense for this. No denying LSU's talent. Now, I'd like to see Nausori get to the left block a little bored post them up a little bit more. But that's up. See a decision there coaching staff speaking, I think, they're defending hard. I think that an Williams gives them great minutes off the bench. They've got legitimate depth that I salute we one of my favorite players in college basketball, scholar mates. I just think he adds to winning. He's got a high basketball IQ. He's got a great feel for the game. These self. Flips. You don't have to run a lot of place for him. He's a willing passer. I think he's the glue that keeps that team together and LSU is final four good. And it's amazing to stay a lot of stuff swirling around their program. And yet, you know, what those kids are playing. Let me ask you about that. Because the the news that came out the other day about will Wade being subpoenaed. And and this is a story that's been out there. And he's done a good job by winning of of keeping it maybe in the in the back corners. But but as as we are now heading toward the tournament. I think it's going to keep coming up, and especially if they do well as a coach now that you've ever been through anything like that. But I promise you, we would have we would have made we we we would have remembered it explain what what he what he deals with. Because it you can't you can't look pass it as an individual. I mean, it's a big deal. It is a big look. In any walk of life. All right. If you're subpoenaed. By a federal court. That's a serious. Situation to be in. And if compartmentalized if he's say control what control there's not to go on until you know, I get in court at that. Like, we'll wait the only guy that knows what's on those states. And probably defense. I mean, there are two people that know what's on the tape. So like, you know, if he's handling this lady says, you don't I'm totally innocent, the tastes approved me out, or you know, if he's not been he's going to have to deal with it. But until the tapes come out, I guess, he's he's compartmentalized to the point where he said, you don't have to coach by the these are my guys they need me. They understand everything that's going on. I can't do anything about. What's happening? What I do is that coach Mike team. Now, that's a hard thing to do. I gotta be honest with you just in general when you whether it's when you're on the hat, cedar, you're under the microscope of people are making accusations. It's a hard thing to do. Because it's harder. You it's hard on your program, and it's harder to family his kids are younger and probably don't understand it. But it say he had P majors setting say he had kids in high school. It would even be that much harder. Because now you have to you know, obviously, help your kids deal with such a problem. It becomes your children's problem. So I think he's handling it, really. Well, and look he might be a hundred percent of the of the is that you know, everyone moves on. But again at any walk of life, you could head of the subpoena. Never good thing. No. It is not finally you mentioned dealing with pressures in a you're coach who seemingly lived on that bubble. This time of the year and fourteen straight months. Thank you, Paul. And then I mean going back to the situation with we'll wait. I mean, no, no one was accusing you of anything other than not being farther up on the chart in getting the tournament. But ultimately, it it it ended. I'm interested in what that does to you as a coach when you're always fighting to get into the tournament. People are whispering about your job. Does it take toll? I'm sure it does. Oh, yes. For sure first of all when you try to get a turban Megyn having a pretty good here because they're not they're not talking about beginning to be Carolina and save year one year. It didn't get hit which is like my teams back bed. If this sure we'd be pretty good shape. You'll be you'll be in the final four. Absolutely horrendous. But sure takes toll on your I will realize it takes a toll on you. Because you feel your kids like last year that was that that I had Malcolm Laney, Jeff Allen and Terrell bell Abbas, the winningest for years in the history of Jin tech basketball when he was four years playing in the ACC and those guys didn't play one tournament. So like that year that their senior year when they didn't get it. I heard for them. I've been to the survivors assistant that went to the final four though, I would games answer. Aa Turk by prefer not to be able to get that opportunity. I mean, I I when I found out I found out not by the ACC office and be honest with you, I find out because I my mind, I do exactly. Where we stood. And when I saw Surtees pop up on the brackets be vast CBS, I knew we were done. So at the end of the third bracket, I told her guys were not in league. Never call me beaten, every covers most positioning thing ever. So those had a sit at my house after haven't been her wait to see their name pop up. People say out of nowhere to leave the out. You beat duke's be Carolina victory won eleven games in the ACC that aired beat Florida state twice, and I had to send them home. And as I can tell you that was the lowest point probably of my coaching career. It sounds silly. But because I felt for those kids, and I it's really share experience with your players for four years. And you you wanna give it back for tuning to realize their dreams pointed third of it, and it was taken away that their last chance was taken away. That was hard. You have to think about being on the hot seat is. My daughter's roller at daughters that were your tech. I had you know, I had a daughter was a sophomore in high school junior high school. I should say, you know, when you hurt that's one thing when your kids hurt it's another. And then when you let get let go when it's on a public way in which was the first press conference to ever call to let coach go, and you were told thirty minutes before the press conference at no idea, you know, you're once again, it's not about you. It's about your family is not the port to beat about family. It's hard. I mean, it's hard. But you know, I it's a life's lesson that you know, you've got to always reinvent yourself. You got to move on. And I I look I look at the people the experiment. So good to be welcomed the bay people like yourself. But if you know giving me opportunities to you know, game game a greater credibility. You know, coaching is still in it. But it would have to very special. Situation. 'cause now part of a different team. The bet I really joy an unfortunate to be part of. Well, we appreciate it in your honesty. I think in your authenticity is what has made you so successful. I was just hurting listening to that stories. I remembered when when when you were let go I think you were in you were entertaining or recruit where you're not entertaining or Kurt my my wife, and I put on a big launch for the American side pink ribbon lunch about eight hundred people. I just finished having lunch with my title sponsor got a commitment for them to once again, be the title sponsor. I'd either have my soul would be heard by when I got back into the office because I left it the car, and he cats and other people all of a sudden, my phone's going crazy and say sable Gitex holding the press conference you've been tired. And I've said, I don't think so. And then I get a call thirty minutes later. And you know, I was the last last one to know then you have to get. You know, just understand daughter at school there. I've got to get her out of class 'cause sushi turns on her phone which she gets out of class. Obviously it's going to be a difficult situation that daughter high school I had to get someone to pick her up had get her out of school. And then my daughter was working in New York. I had to find a way to get someone to communicate with our people understand that residual. Then you got your system coaches and other people that you're dealing with people. Just don't understand it's easy to talk about the bubble. It's easy to talk about hot seat. Obviously part of the profession, and he you know, you get paid well and all that jazz. But you know, coaches families and the head coach gets let go other people's lives are impacted and you know, it's a responsibility, and it's hard. It's hard on you know, 'cause I was singled swamping dealt with. You're married. You have children and you see them hurt. You know, as a as a parent, you see your kid, sir? That's about toughest thing of Bill with. Seth greenburg. Incredible story. Seth really appreciate that was not my intent on ended ask you about couple of games. But. I really really pretty sure. It's real life. We all live on the bubble. Paul. I am actually in the midst of the infancy of writing a book it's life on the bubble has nothing to do with the NCAA tournament as we all live on the bubble. And it's how one deals with those bubble type experiences that shape who yard. So it's something that they would not divert very fortunate. So I mean, I've been I've been blessed, but life life is told roadblocks detours, and it's kinda, you know, they'll say, it's how you handle it that determines your, you know, your pass many thanks can awake to read that Seth. We will talk to you soon. Your best. Appreciate anytime. You got every Friday lobby. You're in sat. Thanks what what is incredible story. I mean, and I, and I'm I say that as someone who who deals on the other side of that. And I I have to tell you. It's easy. Just to throw this coach in the hopper as being in trouble or that one. But when you hear the reality of it, it does chill you, and it gives you reason for pause. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. David is in North Carolina. You're on the air on a Friday afternoon. Hey, David, thanks for taking my call. Thank you just want to throw something in there that came to me. That's just I think there's a possibility not much, but I think there's a better even chance. Holly Warlick will still be coaching toasty next year. Okay. I'm listening. Couple of reasons. One is nothing's happened yet. You know, we're sitting almost twenty four hours since the game and nothing out of Knoxville yet the other thing, and which goes to really my question that you would comment on is what does Tennessee really expect their women's program because you know, there's been a decline for the last three years, it's been pretty obvious. And there've been other coaches out there on the women's program, but they haven't made a move yet. So you know, it's pointless. Remember, remember one thing though? Let's let's Tennessee is on its third athletic director since Holly warling took over for coach summit. So that's an important thing to remember. I also think if you look at her record in toll recently, there was really no. Not a cause to to consider this conversation. She got off to a reasonably good start at at Tennessee. Matt made the elite eight three of first four years. So no one is going to fire a coach, even at Tennessee where the standards are winning the championship for for not getting to the to the final four the championship. Now. It's only been Simpson. The last two years coach more like has not gotten out of the second round issue or there's some debate whether not there's a lot of debate whether they'll even make the NCW tournament. So I I think that's where you have to concentrate. I think you have to look at the crowd last night. It was small it was apathetic on senior knife a loss was historic in. The fact that Tennessee had never lost to Vanderbilt at home. So it's more of a pressing issue. It was a it was an issue last year at the end of the season. But but Tennessee had just gone through a tumultuous change. Athletic director and Phillip Fulmer having gone through the same thing himself. It's not about to make a change. Understand. And that's that's a good case. And I'm not I'm not arguing that that that there's a big chance you'll still be there. But you know, the other part is we're still looking at Knoxville for some kind of word about this. David think about coach fomer for a second. And he's a competitor. And I'm sure in his mind, he probably has talked to her today. I'm just guessing and. I don't think he would get in the way of the season at for a coat we look at it differently. But for from a coach standpoint you have another game Sunday, and then you have a tournament next week. So I think that's probably the the conundrum for him unless he is just decided it doesn't matter. What happens that maybe a change needs to be made? So or maybe she said, listen, I don't I don't know how she can make an argument to keep her job. After after last night, though, do you really don't and it's too bad. Because I know she's doing everything she can't I think she is. She's just not the coach for this team. No. There is a I mean, I'm watching it on TV from my house. I'm not in the stadium where the arena, but I mean, they're just looks like a tremendous disconnect between those players, and I feel terribly. But I think everyone does I have friends of mine who are much closer to her than I am who were at the game. And they are they walked out and it felt like a few. Neral because in some ways, it may have been the end at least in that arena were so many great victories have occurred, even even under her coach is up next in Morristown, Tennessee. Hello, coach, April. How are you today? We are doing. Well. Thank you. Good. Thanks for taking my call. I'd like to make a few comments. If I may on the interview with F Greenberg, of course. This is this is the tough part of this business. You know, and I as I've discussed with you before sports enough to to go through the the ranks high school and making it to be one program. And it was really what that interview at. There was really what I didn't stay in coach starting family. And that situation there. I just say what my head coach had to go through both personally and professionally and thought it was just a chose the family over that lifestyle. Now, I think coach Fulmer is fighting the same little battle with Holly right now because we're talking about someone that is a good person. Someone that's been associated with prudence from what thirty five forty years, maybe. And it's kind of he knows he probably has to make the change, but you're indium era. A Pat summit era also when Holly leaves if she leaves now. So I think that's the tough part of this business on Okocha farmers having, you know, regrets about it. But I think in in the low, I think he understands he has to do to coach you said something interesting in you, come in contact with a lot of coaches, obviously in this profession, and there are some. Businesses where you can separate where you can have a career your wife can have a career, and yeah, they they may intersect at Christmas parties or occasionally. But but they are not really. They do not run. Contemporaneous -ly to one another. Where if you're the wife of a coach there's nearly. Yeah. You you can't just act like, you don't know. What I mean, you are you're part of the team. And that's that's you know, you always hear that phrase, and some people may be offended by in terms of a great coaches wife, but you understand it and you live and die. What what happens? Your family or your system coaches. They're just they're all into just as much as your system. Coach it may it's a tough stuff and now again athletes can go back to my life and athletic. I were the reason I went from point a to point b in every step of my life. So it has been very warning for me going through that process. But I did see I was at a crossroads, and that's why just I chose that the family over that lifestyle in that profession in and I'm glad I did looking back. I do miss it. Just like every coach just like every player miss when they retire. But what's best for your family has to take prison over there now, and that was a sensitive interview listened to Seth because I I know people that are close to say, and and they know how tough that for gene, Texas wish was on him and his family. Yeah. In his his last year got a little bit off the rails. As you remember. And sometimes these things are are Neville. And I think if you're an athletic director like Philip you want the decision to to make itself easy. And I think last night it did maybe he feels that with one more game and a road trip coming up tomorrow. It's better just to get out of her way and let her finish that. And then regroup before the the chimney. She'll be playing again team would be playing again probably on Wednesday. I think maybe Thursday, but these things move quickly and as a head coach. When there's no way to avoid it. And I know I I know coaches say all the time. Well, you know, I'm I'm gonna bubble. I don't know what's going on. But when you have the lead sports columnist in that community who's been there now for thirty three numbers. Write a column that's published online at noon today, saying the head coach should be fired. There's no escaping. It. Will they'll work something out with Holly? They're not they're not going to fire her Holly. I know they work at a separation of that. And there will be it will be I have all the faith and coach former hiring a good coach. But it will be someone that's probably has done more times to to to Pat summitt. And that's kind of the end of the air. I think Tennessee's women's basketball pro has some disciples out there. But but maybe maybe that is the best thing to do is just cut the cord and start over. I think it will be, but thanks for taking my collegue theory much coach so great to have you on really, really. Interesting call there. No doubt. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Always great to have crisslow on the program from ESPN, so many things to talk about we'll change the change of pace here, and we'll get to basketball issues in a moment. But Chris, thanks for the call. Thanks for being here in Tennessee about to kick it off again under Jeremy Pruitt, and someone who is observed this program as along with many others, very closely. I'm really interested in your perspective of Jeremy as year two is set to begin. Paul. It's always great to be with you, man. I think than anything might be quite with Jeremy was house deep, but his earning curve d of the head coach and then knew the guy can recruit coach ball. And it was one of these guys that you know, is wired to to go at it twenty four seven, and I think he did learn a lot in his first year, you how to manage people manage games, we'll see how much this year 'cause the schedules easier, and I don't think there's any question of this team's not in the postseason and your number two. They're going to be a lot of disappointed people on rocky top. I think the fact that there's some momentum in the program with what's happened in the off season has a lot of all fans excited. You look at who is hired, you know, bring in Jim Chaney of proven off office coordinator who's done it in the SEC. Go get Derek Ansley, the NFL and bring him in and see I think that's going to help him to all the cause last year. Jeremy tried to call plays on defense, then in first years head coach and do that and manage program. All the hatch. You gotta wear that's difficult. I think that's going to help him into bring t Martin back. You know to bring a guy that means as much kinda see fans spending those the USC who's a terrific recruiter. So there's a lot of them minimum off the field. I think the recruiting clash they got two of the top off its tackles prospects any way in the country. You know, they certainly need help and the offensive line. Now, they've got to do it on the field. This is a big year the second year typically for coaches in the SEC, we've seen a lot of success stories, Kirby smart comes to mind guys really turned it around in year two I think the most realistic expectation Tennessee, though is to get to a bowl game and be playing a lot better football November than they were last year. 'cause we were they got creamed in their last game against Missouri. And vanderbilt. No doubt talking to crisslow VSBN. Always great to have Chris on Chris. Let's turn the page to the big basketball game to Morrow afternoon. It's certainly kinda hard to. I mean, it's Kentucky which means. What means a great deal? But just seems like this Tennessee team which surprised everyone made a run about six weeks in as as a number one team. Even those loss of Kentucky in at LSU that seems like people are doubting them right now. Help us understand what this is with this game means tomorrow, especially for the trajectory the rest of the way, you know, what I think happened Paul. They went so many weeks there where they they just weren't Bush that release where they won I think five or six games by double digits and then Kentucky bumps Sunday, go to LSU gained the going either way, and they don't get it done there. And we're probably pretty fortunate to win a little bit the no probably too. They were fortunate win Wednesday still a team that can do damage in the. Postseason. They've got veterans. I got guys play together. Well, this is a big game. I think for both Tennessee and Kentucky. I think you could say the winner. This game has the inside track to be a number one seed, or if the SEC is going to get a one c I think the winner of this game has a great chance to get that see if Tennessee's problem has been defensively, and I was talking to Rick Barnes about this. And that's long they're edge lasts two defensively without band, and they just haven't played with that same age. I don't know if it's because they've been so good offensively. They've been able to win games with offense. But they haven't been able to stay in front of people with fall dribble penetrations killed them. And I think that's the thing tomorrow night or more after noon that they're going to have to be better at certainly better at Kamarck because you've got to grind out games on the defense event. If you're gonna stay alive in the postseason. Chris I'd say probably the most difficult subject for last. And that's the the future of Hollywood liquor. Just there's no way to describe the the the embarrassment of what happened last night against the worst team in the the first loss ever at home to Vanderbilt calls for holidays. Dismissal already in the local Knoxville media. No word from anyone today. But with the game Sunday and the SEC tournament next week. Where are we? Well, if they don't make incidentally term and right now, it doesn't look doesn't look very good that they are anxious gonna have a hard time surviving, you look at the standard of that program and what Pat summitt field, and they were you know, when women's basketball was way way way off the radar, you know, with with what Pat at Tennessee, they were on the radar because of the way she did it and how successful she wasn't. I think the hard thing here with Holly Hollywood a big part of that the players he played for Pat. She was a big part of pets coaching staff. And now you got Phil Fulmer who's going to have to make this decision. Phillip Fulmer been in this position pushed out himself as head coach after the program declined on his watch. Now, you look at where they where they have not gone, football wise or out, maybe. Guessing that and he had Holly go back a long ways ball as you. Well know, so this is one of those deals where as JD you gotta put that aside and make the decision that's best for them. And are they going to be able to get back? We're Tennissee should be and women's basketball with Holly the handle. And I think when you look at the way it's going the last two years some the body language of the players that just doesn't seem like this team has responded. I mean, it's not like she has it recruited well done a lot of McDonald's all Americans in. I think when you look back at her and her total body of work at Tennessee head coach, and you know, they've done some some nice things they wanna see tidal she's gone to elite eight but the last two years not even close to being up to par for what Tennessee women's basketball has been. And I gotta think if she does not make the term it which would be the first time ever pretend ac- not making the women's term. There. Phillip Fulmer is going to have to probably think it's up finally on that Krizan and certainly last. Night seemed like the end, but knowing that the competitive nature of both Phillip and Holly. Do you think he is going to sit back in and make sure that they are completely eliminated before he made that call. I think so. It really shouldn't be just about that. All I mean, I think the bigger question is is she the one to get Tennessee back. And that's again where you have to put relationships and pass the side because I do know that Holly and Philip very close. I mean, they were contemporaries UT for long time. And as I said, the fascinating part of this is Phillip was in his very position in there and got pushed that there's still the bad about how how smarter decision was. Right. Exactly. And now, I think it's a little bit different football and basketball, two different sports. But, but I don't think it should be about whether they make determined not again is is there reason to believe their vision is our plan that she can get them back to where they should be. I don't think he's gonna make rash decisions. He did give an extension before the season. I don't know that that really means a whole lot. And I think the other thing is who do you? Go get you know, you have a plan. You have somebody that you can zero and bring this one of the Taj Mahal jobs and all the women's. Basketball. So I would think it would be a lot of people out there that would be certainly interested in. It's always best all to be the person. That follows the person who follows the legend in the person who follows election. You know, we'll Br bring that one back in a few years after saving retires. Imagine the poor as I I was kidding with data this past spring or springs ago about that he looked at me that the poor soul that goes in whoever that is, you know, God bless. Yeah. Well, I can tell you I had the misfortune of covering the guy who who succeeded Nick excuse me pair Bryant. And there at one point. He did everything he could to give me fired and run out of town. So I lasted him, which is why we're still having this conversation. Well, you in just like the poor the poor guy that has replaced you. All right. Oh, exactly. Well, Chris what a pleasure we will talk. Again, many many times soon as we head toward spring. Always great to have you on you bad politics here, crystal. I one of the absolute best in the business. Joining us from Knoxville working, for course, ESPN. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion than pattern three of college. Football leaves Keer. The is the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. Oh, we are back in the comment that Brandon Adams made not going over very well referring to Nick Sabin as being quote, unquote. The winter of his career is better than the autumn. I've had people referred to me being in the autumn. More better any autumn's before winner, isn't it? Greg is up next in Athens, Alabama. Hello, greg. Call me, take my call. Thank you. You know, the the reporter that you had on just now from a dog nation he sounded much better than when you have the interviews with my Griffith because regardless of the team he covers she always sounds like the sports information director. Boys from delegation having a tough time on the show today. Well, it is what it is. You know, the off season already, but in reference to your coffee question, I like, Starbucks because it's bitter. I mean coffee is supposed to be better. Yeah. It is a little bit. You know? I I must admit I had some today. And there's always now. How do you? What do you get there that can cut out that bitter aftertaste because I'm not crazy about it myself? Well, you probably have to put some in there. You know? So just a coffee get a lot. But maybe some whiskey. Well, that could do it. Okay. Then you have Irish coffee, but I just like a black goes back to my navy days. You just drank a black. You know, if you could see the bottom of your copy wasn't coffee, tea and. The go-to. What was the go-to food on the submarine? Independent. We have a lot of beef, Gordon, blue and prime rib on board your feet underwater. There's no scape. I guess I guess Domino's doesn't deliver on a submarine desert. We do not have a Domino's hotspot underwater pretty for money. The guy the little guy in the in the in the old car driving up from Panera bread to deliver your your sandwich on the submarine. Well, they could get one of those DSR vehicles at the navy uses for rescue and painted with the Domino's on it and attach itself if it's coming into port, you know, it's funny. You don't have a long range, but you know. Alabama's loss was like a tree on your house, and I've had that happen before. But to hear some of your Auburn callers calling and laugh about it. It's like being the neighbor to that guy laughing at is tree on the roof. While your house is burning up on fire. Yeah. Now, listen, Greg. There's nothing quite like an Alabama loss to exact to give hope to the rest of mankind. Even when there is. No, exactly. But at least me to ask you a question, you know, Gus has been there six years, and with the exception of Nick Marshall. He's not had a system quarterback to run his system. And I wonder why he wants to run his system and refuses to recruit the quarterback built exactly for that. Instead of often for you know, the graduate transfer is because it's all these had recently except for Sean white he left or he got kicked off the team, but he wasn't a system quarterback either. And so he's going to be calling the place year. And I wonder why there's this hesitancy on his part just go out recruit a guy who wants to run his offense. Great question. Hey, thank you very much. Greg. Always great to hear from you, Jim in New Mexico. Hello, jim. Welcome. Hello, paul. Thank you very much. I just I heard you comment a little bit about the play calling Alabama particularly the championship game. And I can't help. But think that with Loxley gone the poll programs going to end up a lot better. You you probably have some major with how he practically ruined what little quality football. We had it New Mexico when he was here. He came as head coach after rocky long rocky long left the team, actually good shape. We'd been several bowl games largely came in and was fired his third year where he was two wins. Twenty six losses at gotten into five with one of his assistant coaches punched him gotten sued for sexual harassment. And that's just the by one of the secretaries in that lake department along with a lot of other issues, and he just never amounted to much day. I I again. I think if they've got they've got the talent I expect the offense it in the football program to to even be better with the new offense coordinator. No, listen. There's no doubt. Steve Sarkisian is a better offensive coordinator than. Mike loxley? It's just I mean, Sarkissian issues aren't his play. It's just to his stability. And you have to sue them Nick Sabin feels comfortable with that. Thank you for the call James in Dallas on the air. Go right ahead. James? Yeah. Follow you answered. My question yesterday. Is that plane the? I think pretty much put takes on the national scene possibly, you know, this twenty nine teen. And I thank you for giving me your comment on that. But you're last response was in reference to what Texas beatdown Georgia for three and a half quarters. And that reminded me of a singing from old Andy Don Meredith whenever he would take it. So sale said something that was a little of noxious and a little unreasonable. And that is if converts for candy nets. We don't have a merry Christmas. And anyway, Texas might be the worst team in college football, but portrayed and a half quarters. They just beat the hound out of your. I don't listen. I wasn't dude. I cover that game up. It was it was embarrassed running. Hey, can I make one more comment? Yes, please. By the way, we're not wha-. What I what I would give the listen to Howard and Frank dandy. Don to another Monday night football game. Mecom in the thank you again for coming and answer. My question comment is I really believe recent Texas won that game is because they were facing a one dimensional quarterback. And they don't have that luxury in the big toil. You know, that's just my opinion. And I don't know a lot about football plays and operations next his nose. But they didn't have to chase the told you quarterback all over the field. Fifty percent of the game. Two point. So james. Much always a place where we go from Dallas to New York. Good three and a half hour flight plane ride. Hello, keith. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Paul. How are you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. Good excuse, my voice. I'm just getting over a cold. But why weren't talk to you about is is next year's SEC championship could very well be won by two loss team. If you look at all the teams that are coming up like Florida, Tennessee, AM LSU, South Carolina. Everybody's getting much better. And if somebody comes with a two loss team or they even going to get invited to the. Yeah. Well, let me you know. I don't I don't wanna talk. I'm you know, sitting on spring court citing precedent here. But if you go the heck to you last year, Auburn loss to Clemson and to LSU and had Auburn beaten, Georgia. It would have gone to. The college football playoff because it was prepared would have been propelled by two wins over number one teams, Alabama and Georgia. So I think it's possible. Yes. You know, you can't you have to be in a position. But, but I think you know, what would help in George's case if you're beating a number one, Alabama were number or an undefeated, Alabama. It would it would be more problematic. If you had two two teams playing each other. Well, that's what I'm talking about. It's hard to teams playing in the championship game. So one of them would win two loss. And if you had up of one loss Pac ten team one loss. Well, it isn't possible to answer payment. And Clemson, of course, they're gonna play in the ACC, which is a cakewalk. It's a fair question. I I don't know how to answer I'm trying to think about for Alabama to lose twice the regular season. That would be just downright stunning. It would be but look at an EMC coming on strong. Yeah. No, alabama. Liz is two am and. Probably the better chance would be at Auburn. Right. All they would be mixed and in Georgia lost to Florida and Notre Dame or am it would it would be a problem. A really good point. Thank you very much case up against the break. We're taking your phone calls today. Five to four two seven two eight five John Adams shortly more of your calls as well as we continue here on a Tuesday afternoon. Listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're here. More calls and more guests to come. Let's continue how about James in Tennessee. Hello, James call. Hey, it's so happy you take my phone. Call enjoyed the show whenever I can watch it. Unfortunately, it usually typically this time of day, I'm working and not able to. But when I'm home, I'm always watching. Thank you. I'm reading up chosen your show to ask this questions because I know you take you go back in town. And I know you have a very good knowledge of the history of the SEC. And that's one thing. I enjoy from time to time when you comment on as far as the Tennessee basketball program. I want to kind of talk a little about both women's and man's and I'll start with the men's program. It's just I'm just having this conversation with some friends of mine this week just how we are of what the job Rick Barnes has done in a no, you gotta guess it's coming on pretty soon to talk about it. But the fact that the correct me if I'm wrong Paul, but I don't believe that there's a single five or four on this team right now. No, he's he's developed this team on his own. And so what's what's amazing baffling to me is what he's been able to do. And how stupid Texas must feel. They let this guy. Go. And what a blessing it is for ball fans to have this guy is to revitalize our our basketball program. Now, I started watching basketball the first year was seventy nine I think that's the year done to both first year think that they wanted to turn and beat Kentucky and overtime if I'm not mistaken that that is correct. Okay. And of course, they can peaks and valleys during that time. And of course, probably the biggest valley had to be in the nineties underway to wage Houston, and what the other Irish guys name. What was his name o? Kevin o'neill. Yeah. But but I just wanted to kind of get your opinion on what's Rick Barnes. You think going to do in the future is he gonna stick with this format or see going to mix it up? I know they got a commitment from a five star guy for next year's class. That's on the men's side. I'm gonna ask you this on the women's side how much more and how we'll fill a fomer. We'll Phillip Fulmer learn from his past mistakes in terms of his loyalty. I always said that his loyalty to his coaches is what got him in trouble. In the midst of thousands is his loyalty is longtime friendship to Holly. Is that going to keep him from pulling the trigger and making a change because I think the key. I think he's hollies lost the locker room he wa- if you want Paul if you watch that second hand. Not even trying. No, let me quick answer on the front part. I yeah. I mean, there's no way you can avoid getting big time recruits. Now that your program is at the epicenter of college basketball. I don't think it will change the way Rick Barnes coaches, which is the key on the women's front. Listen, I don't think Tennessee will beat Notre Dame Thursday to you know, chance it's gonna be a bloodbath. And that game is in Knoxville. Correct. I think I think that may be the line of demarcation even though Monday night probably was losing to to. I mean Arkansas is is a is a rising program. They've really good coach who who who's gone to a final four my. I think that's going to be. We're we're we're we're it comes to an end just in terms of any any chance of survival. And you know, I'm I'm not one that's going to sugarcoat anything. I don't think she's gonna make. And I don't think I don't think Phillip Fulmer can resist the the will of. Of the Tennessee people who I think at this point realize, she's not the right answer. But you do agree with my surgeon that has been one of Philip's Gillies hill in the pan. But let me say this in defense of Phillip Fulmer, it's different being a coach then the athletic director. He knows what it steak he knows. He knows as well. As anyone how important that women's program is I think you'll be cautious because he's been there before. But I I believe that he will make the call. And I and I'm just guessing I'm not there. But I think he'll call her in and find a graceful way out. And I think the best way out is for her to announce she's walking away for the good of the program as opposed to fighting in unwinnable battle, and I think right now, she's in an unwinnable battle, Paul. Can I promise I'll let somebody else had microphone in defensive Holly? Again, this is. This is not an excuse worse. What six us into it now, but the ball of nation, including myself have to take a step back and understand all the the the the circumstances that she had to take when she took this juncture. I mean, you know, what she had to go through watching her friend her mentor. Go downhill, I won't listen. I watched my mom die of breast cancer. It's not easy on anybody. And I know Holly was right there on the forefront. And and I think that that's why she just giving been giving the latitude that she's been given. But after that on the opposite side of that has been six years, and you've got you've got elite talent there that's top ten in my opinion. And it's just not being coast up. So it's time to make a change. Hey, paul. Thank you so much for me the opportunity, I love your show. Thank you, take care. Now. Really appreciate we'll talk about that issue. It's an issue for those who are like going what's going on here? It's it's the passion of the Tennessee people. They care very much about that women's program that that is in one of its worst crisis is probably the worst in almost everyone's memory. Thank you very much for the call. What's continue Gilly is? In Tennessee, Gilly, go right ahead. Morning. Noon Paul's first time, first time, caller longtime listener, and I just wanna give you show shout out and thinking enjoy listening to it greatly. I got three things really I shout out to Rick Barnes can't say basketball doing a great job and the kids are just class act. So proud of that. So second thing is Holly. I'm afraid that she, you know, this is your six year and she still saying we're just too young. So now, it doesn't work. I don't think I don't think he does now. No, paul. But anyway, I was going to be able to shout out to the Alabama fans in into. I think what did they cancer coordinator? Clemson did was watch the SEC film study like I did. And I saw to just give away all his keys in say is throws them field in this out patterns. And and I think I think to spilled his guts, and I think I think there will solve those keys, and he just he just Audi me, what do you think? Yeah. I think you're absolutely right about that. Go. Hey, thank you very much for the call. Do appreciate it. Let's check out Walter in Louisville. You're on the air. Hey, walter. Hey, Paula doing first time caller you enjoy. Your show. Appreciate I wanna sit there and talk about I've been watching Alabama and Clemson people. Hey, you know, the better team won indices, Alabama fans just gotta sit back regroup late Nick Sabin, do it. He has to do to get the program owning in. If you feel like he needs a retired. And so be it. He had a great life at LSU, Alabama. Let him enjoy his life. But if he's ready to regroup and get it seems like we haven't heard from him. But it seems like he's ready to regroup. Well, you know, I'm I'm big Kentucky fan, and we have grown processes on right now. So they wanted to stoops head off like the second year. But you know, you came building empire in the day. No, you you really can't. Hey, thanks. Walter. Really good to hear from you. Brett is in Columbus, Ohio. Brett, welcome to our show. Good afternoon. Peter finebaum. How're you doing? Great. Thank you, Brian. It's a good talk to my best friend every once in a while you miss talking to. Yeah. Yes. So we've for the first year university could plucky alumni, you know, that culture. And so went down to Georgia versus your Kentucky in Athens, Georgia being a Kentucky fan a mystified by basalt Rina's, all that stuff. They have a beautiful Rena down there. Call Athens, Georgia. Really nice fans were were great. Of course. I was wearing my blue blue Goodson grow games FCC. But I just went to brag about one of your employees. Paul had a cribbage to me. Laura Rutledge ruin sources are for a few minutes, and she's got the beauty and the intelligent. So a lot of times if like you Paul you're beautiful, but you know, not intelligent about everything. So, but she knows a lot about a lot. And one of those times that I get to brag. About the FTC, and you have a privilege to work with. They're just want to tell you that all have a great day. Thank you. Brian. Great to hear from you. Glad you did leeann Seattle Hillary. Hey, I know you're doing well. So I won't ask reason I called is. I've taken issue with, you know, quite a few things that have come out of Daryl's mouth. You know? I'm sure a lot of people. Have you calling just straight out calling? So in a you know, a drunk and immigrants, and we're all immigrants, but today, I think he topped it that was driving, and it just was able to come in call you. Let's he actually complaining about these get over a referee's call. He did. That's funny for a guy who complained for a year about a call in the Georgia Alabama national title game. And he's still crying over like couldn't believe it was. I don't know what I thought I just thought that cannot becoming Daryl valve he's complaining about a call that what against you know, when it gets Alabama, and they're still whining about I'm sorry, New Orleans, or whatever it was. So I just found that ironic and I'm sorry. That's bello. I had listen. You can't take anything Darryl says literally. So I I heard what he said. But it didn't really faze me because it was Daryl making the statement. I know that coming out of his mouth, especially you know, he's still whining about a call from last year's championship with the revs. And he's telling everybody else to get over it. Oh my goodness. Anyway, besides that, you know, I think he's just a moron. Like would say. Thank you all. Thank you Lee. Great to hear from you. We will take a break John Adams coming up shortly or of your phone calls after that. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back to talking a lot of basketball a lot of Tennessee basketball, especially with the vase number one in the country. John Adams is covered it all for both radio. Most recently in for thirty some odd years for the Knoxville news sentinel, John. Still kind of hard to believe Tennessee, number one in basketball. We've seen it before it didn't last very long. How important is this? And how great is it for that that program up there? Good afternoon. Hey, paul. Yeah. I it's a great thing for the fan base fan base here. I know it's considered a football school. But there's tremendous interest in basketball here. It always has been it just needs the right coach to rekindle that interest gray MIR's. Did it a long time ago, Bruce Pearl get it how you saw what that was like. And now Rick Barnes has done the same thing. He's not to promote it right with Mears. Was he's not the promoter that Bruce Pearl was. But he's really built a nice team. And the fans appreciate it in. They're filling up Thompson. John. How has he done it? Well, it's interesting Paul when he was hired. I mean, this guy had an incredible career took Texas to the NCAA tournament sixteen times in seventeen years. He's won everywhere. He's been I think some people wondered if after support your from Texas, if maybe this was it, you know, he was just kind of closing out his career with this with his job. Quite to the contrary. He's really worked at it. He's built a team. He knows what he wants his team to look like he knows the kind of guys can play for him. They have to be guys that can take tough coaching and a lot of players can't now, and he's he's really put together a team that will respond to him. And that's what's happening. It happened last year, and it's happening again this year, and this guy really is done an excellent job of of motivating them. And I think some teams might be. Distracted by being number one. I don't think this team will be as, you know, number one can be very fleeting. But I just think this team is going to be really good the rest of the year and probably really good in the NCAA tournament talking to John Adams about the Tennessee basketball program number one the country John for so many years. Tennessee was either number one or close to it in women's basketball with the lady vol's last night. Many of us watched something that that is closely resembling a harsh oh with Tennessee losing it home fifth straight with the number one team in the country ahead. What's the status of Holly Warlick right now as we close out January? We'll Powell I think I wrote a column after last season. My feeling is the administration is not interested in the lady vol's being an elite power again. I think they're content with the team winning twenty or so games getting in the NCAA tournament. And they're they're paying Holly Warlick, not top wages in terms of college women's college basketball. So that you see otherwise, I think they would have made a change already in God out and pay somebody maybe two million dollars. But I just don't see that happening. But I thought the program would continue along instate a certain level, but this season contradicts that I mean, this is truly a train wreck. I I know it's they've got some young players, but the kind of players Tennessee recruits to go out and play the way this team does is totally unacceptable. Fan base and in every one of those losses. I've watched them. I mean, Tennessee just looks not it looks. So disorganized hollies been outcoached. And every one of those games decidedly. I would say and done by the well for the future. Now, it's got enough talent we might still come around and get hot at the end of the year and maybe win twenty games and make the NCAA tournament. But right now when you look at this team, you know, I don't know who it's going to be and beat Vanderbilt and be Florida, but he can lose to anybody else. So the you've seen that with losses to Alabama. I didn't think Alabama could beat any team in the country about twenty points. If it continues in you know, one would presume Thursdays and opportunity to play the number one team in the country. It's alternate opportunity to be totally embarrassed at home that would be six straight losses. I'm assuming this decision is resting comfortably. With Phillip Fulmer your knowledge of him as a coach and loyalty aside, he's in a different role. Now has he said anything, and what do you expect them to do? No. He's never say anything negative Donald Holly Worley he hasn't. You know, he hasn't mentioned it during this during the currencies. And that there's a problem nothing like that. I think he's just consumed with football. He's out there at practice dressed in coaching garp, tune the season. I think that's where his focus is. He still wants to be football coach and everything else is kind of falls by the wayside. I also. Think so good that Philip looks at her in can emphasize. I mean, he doesn't think he ever should have been fired at Tennessee is football coach. So he sees a coach with a good record. And that's enough for him. He doesn't lick it where the program had the program once was or the decline of the program just as there was a cl- decline of the football program under him. He doesn't really know that. So I would think he would be sympathetic and empathize for Ali warling before you go. It's pretty amazing. We we haven't talked about football you. But we will. Now, a lot of coaching changes recruiting seems to be going, really. Well, your your thought says Jeremy Pruitt enters year, number two. Well, you mentioned this has been such a volatile off season for football transport for assistant coaches coming and going one jumping from one SEC school t the other. But I think when it's all settled down. I think Tennessee is better off it lost its offense coordinator Tyson health took a job head coaching job with western Kentucky. I thought he's a good offensive coordinator. I think he'll do a good job there. He didn't really fit. Jeremy Pruitt's Phil Phillips the loss of. And I just wonder I really believe that Jim Chaney will be better suited. I think he will be more comfortable with Jim Chaney is his offense coordinator, I think you'll be less likely to meddle with Jim Chaney is often to coordinator. And thereby he'll be able to focus on the defense. They just like the offense needs plea help. My guess is Jeremy poet tried to do too much in his first season as the head coach. I think most guys. Do in that situation. I also think bringing t more helps from another perspective, I think he'll be able to do really good job in new cruising. He's recruited. Well, wherever he's been. He's got great connections. Not just in California since he's been at Southern Cal. But obviously deep-seated background in the southeast. John Adams, always greats catch up so much information so much discussion involving Tennessee many, thanks. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Paul John Adams, very interesting comments there about the women's program and Phillip Fulmer, we'll digest that get your reaction. We're coming right back to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back here on a Tuesday afternoon. Leeann it Lanta next up as we continue here Lee. Thank you very much. Good afternoon. Hey, paul. How are you doing? We are doing great. Hey, hope all is. Well. First time call I got a couple of quick question. And I'm gonna get off. Sure. Tennessee, Tennessee girls coaching job. I got a guy in Atlanta. Actually, his son pleased, Alabama he was on. Concussion protocol fish last year. But he's a b- Siegel. Be you're going to be real deal. Six five through zero six another biscuit. I'm telling really he'll be. Yeah. So you see what is it? But the guy that I'm talking about his name Willie Richardson. He coaches at Atlanta international high school right now, he got a hell of a resume. You can look up. Okay. Played in m v played in NBA goes a little bit at western Carolina in the guy knows what he's doing. I'm just doing it out there. I appreciate much, and I'll tell you one more thing for let's go coach Avery Johnson. He's he's gone. He's the only why zone arrive. I think he's a great coach. I totally agree with you on that. Yeah. We'll paul. Appreciate it. Thanks to take. My thanks pre sheet glide that guide to hear from you. Really good. Really good information there. Evan in states borough Georgia. Hello evan. How you doing? We're doing great just going out in the woods, man. Is this an all basketball episode? I've called in them. Well, I think so. Yeah. I messed up then I call them the wrong way. Today about the Georgia football team. Now, they may be having a hard time recruiting wide receivers because of the branding issue. Really see that as a problem with the or or or not? No, I think you just have the statesboro blues thinking that. No. I I don't know. I don't understand how Georgia could have an issue anywhere. Georgia's including is. I mean, it's on the same level as Alabama. Yeah. That was kinda messed all. But it was I I guess they were refer to the one kid Joe's Oklahoma after decommitted. Yeah. I mean, let's I don't think I ever look at one player and and try to come up with a draw conclusion. I mean, I know what you're talking about. But I I don't think Georgia has any issues in recruiting. Okay. All right. Well, how your opinion on that? And I go I wanted to tip my hat to another Georgia Southern coach, Paul Johnson. He retired this year. You're talking about another good coach at probably never got the credit that he deserved. But I I would agree with you on that. That's right. I get eight Georgia Tech full-fledged. Now, Paul Johnson's Goan have to root for him every every week until they play Georgia Tech and hate him all year now. So that's good. Taking my McCall. Thank you. My my model hate early and often. Thank you very much for the call. Do. Appreciate Stephen is in Nashville, you're on the air. Good afternoon. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. I hang on caller. I was calling. It 'bout. I'm fan draws caught about the Alabama Clemson game. And I hate to call following basketball interview. But I was going to say about that. I'm thinking there's an LSU fan that you know, obviously, oh has proven to be a solid choice. Even though he was not popular at the time or starting the season. But I'm looking at it thinking, Clemson may have laid down a blueprint for people to follow to give Alabama trouble. But then as I think about it, I'm going, hey, how many teams can throw four first-round descent defensive lineman down at the same time. And and, you know, generational freshman quarterback with you know, skill players. Remember one thing. And and Nick Sabin is is dapple coaches I've ever seen. He knows what got him in trouble in that game. He has a new offense coordinator who I think is far superior from from an Xs and os standpoint, then that's previous one. So. I don't think he'll sit around and and and and do the same thing. And that was one of those things to watching the game. You know? I just said, I I I'm not gonna say I was hoping bam mode when again, but I definitely love the SEC. But it was also obvious that they had one of their worst red zone. Offensive play calling games I've ever seen. And I was wondering why they can't do that against this you every once in a while. Well, it's a good guy. Yeah. I cannot explain the LSU Alabama rivalry. There's no rhyme or reason for that. Especially since owes Ron is different than I mean, less miles got freaked out by that game. So I it was bigger than he can handle him. His his his his sweet spot was in was in. We follow is not going to go with giants. That was but, you know, something Stephen, you know, the I think if I if you had to fall coach owes you're on he's been trying to win the game on the wrong side of the ball. He just can't win that game on defense. And that's the thing is I l issues always been able and the truth is they've been able to keep it close. When they go full bore defense. Try to do time for this and run the ball, but it doesn't work. So I'm wondering if the UCF game showing borough throw for three hundred yards and a bunch of young receivers. I'm wondering if they don't try to. I mean, what's the worst? That could happen. We we pull an old miss and give up forty points. But maybe they can put up for you right in the furniture and the first year he kept a very close. And and I think he got something out of that offense was disaster. Last year wasn't any better. This year is even worse. And you gotta you gotta you gotta win that game. You can't you can't win that game trying to to narrow the playing field notes Alabama. And I and I and being are awesome used to call a game with the score point on offense. Yeah. No another another milestone for us. Well, said thank you, very. Much really really good to hear from us, Stephen. And if I can figure out how to work this phone how about Scott in Virginia. Hey, Scott, welcome to the show. Thank you, Paul. Thank you call. You bet. Great to hear from you. I'm just talking about the my daughter went to Alabama graduated last year. He's living in Atlanta working for CDC. And I'm I'm just talking about the game. General I you know, you you get emotional when you watch the first time the game. I watched the second game, you know, the next day and just telling you there was saying that I mean that that that that that call that Holding cO on the ten yard line and to push ins from the to your mind. I have like everybody's making too much thing. Like, nick. Has done you know, his is his run call. And you know, that's what I'm thinking about. I mean, look at this recruiting class. We got it. I mean, it's unbelievable. Guy. Listen, you you make a fair point. I mean, there are a lot of points that just disintegrated in that game in the red zone mistakes were made I think it was just the fact that ala Bama didn't adjust in recover more than more than the twenty eight point outcome at thanks for the call. We have another hour to go. Thanks for being a part of the show. We're coming right back.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Tried passion. Then patterns re of college football lives here on the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast bottle half the show live and underway and eight is Friday afternoon. And that means one thing are we hope it's a weekly. Visit. He's been nice enough to come on lately. And we're always thrilled to have Seth Greenberg on game day Tamar in Houston. So Seth joins us. Thanks for the time as always and I've gotten one hundred calls already tonight about tomorrow's game in Knoxville between Tennessee and Kentucky. So I'm going to get out of the way because I know nothing, but you know, it all so have added. What's what's this all about? Yeah. Interesting. There's a couple of things one. I think Kentucky ability to contain Georgia bone and say, wait a sec white. You gotta start with grant Williams. You gotta start with Admiral Scofield. But to me when I think about Tennessee, it starts with Jordan bones. You've gotta guard of in transition. You gotta keep mad at a lane. You've got to limit at his impact on the game because you control bone. It's easy to control grant Williams and Scofield. So that's the first foremost Kentucky that the next thing is without re Travis without re travis's baked physical body without re travis's ability to grant Williams, just one step off the block south silly. But if you move one step off the block, then all of a sudden those double teams that they ran item you can get to that much quicker. And then when he goes you can wall up and keep them in front re Travis did a great job defensively, and they went down to into the post some offensively. He got the foul line. So how did they go grant Williams without re traps, I think that's going to be something that? You need to watch. And then I think the final thing in terms of on the Kentucky side at Tennessee is is a great job at school today. I thought that tells the Johnson was really good he made a bunch of shots early. But no one talks about his defense. I thought his defense was really really good. So those things I've had side of the other thing, you know, Doug. They gotta take care of the ball in a tough environment twelve turnovers start to game the the other night against Arkansas. You turn it over twelve times in first half against Tennessee. You're not going to have any chance to get back. And again the second hand so those big support. And then the one thing that Tennessee's got a really good job of PJ Washington when he gets to the left block, Paul he destroyed Tennessee, they got on the left block you walk through the metal jump jump after jump hook. They've got either garden earlier or get the ball out of his hands. So as you're watching a game those things to look for great stuff here is we talked to. Jeff greenburg. Seth Tennessee fans are feel a little bit anxious right now they lost that game a week ago. They lost the game to Kentucky. They nearly let one go and I realize there's still plenty of time left in the season. But is it what is it critical for them to win this game just to stem, the some of the the negativity or is it just another game along the way to the tournament. Their season. I in a bigger to have the grade they're gonna come in first or second in eight depending on what else she does maybe third it their goal to beginning year wasn't just to win. The SEC championship is to make the final floor and competes with off chip. So they've gotta get the playing their best basketball. And I think that's the biggest thing they've gotta get some bench played. They're not getting anything out of their bench. They've gotta get some quality men separate bench, and then Kyle and he's got to have a little bit more impact on the game and grants. Gotta be more consistent. I look for Rick to try to punch that thing inside. Often against Kentucky. And if they can't get grants, basically going, then I think, you know, you're in Tennessee, San you've got a concern. But I think they kind of went away from him a little bit probably not on purpose, but they've got to establish grant Williams at their very best when they're establishing grant laureates everyone else is playing off but their bench doesn't play. They don't just get some quality minutes out of scout Zander. That's an issue. Let me let me flip to LSU from moment. They come away with with that big win there. You know? I think they're they're healthier. Or at least. That's what most people are saying. And I know they're kind of get overshadowed a little bit by what's going on with Kentucky and Tennessee. But it's hard to overlook down as we as we are now in March. Yeah. They're really all. I mean, it's interesting. They win those back to back games. They went without obser- Trayvon waters or the agency trout waters plays in the next game. If he gets a three-game suspension that he probably had some off the court issues. Let's be honest, but our business three consecutive games in a row, but they're actually playing a little bit better basketball in some ways without the falls, not get sucked out, they smarts. But absolutely terrific. More guys are getting touches and they've been really good defense with this no denying LSU's talent. Now, I'd like to see Nausori get to the left block a little post them up a little bit more. But that's up. See a decision. Their coaching staffs making. I think they're defending hard. I think that and Williams gives them great minutes off the bench. They've got legitimate debt. I salute Lii one of my favorite players in college basketball, Schuyler Mace. I just think he adds to winning. He's got a high basketball IQ. He's got a great feel for the game. He selfless. You don't have to run a lot of place for him. He's a willing passer. I think he's the glue that keeps that team together and LSU is final four good. And it's amazing to stay a lot of stuff swirling around their program. And yet, you know, what those kids are playing. Let me ask you about that. Because the the news that came out the other day about will Wade being subpoenaed. And and this is a story that's been out there. And he's done a good job by winning of of keeping it maybe in the in the back corners. But but as as we are now heading toward the tournament. I think it's going to keep coming. Up and especially if they do well as a coach now that you've ever been through anything like that. But I promise you, we would have we would have made it. We would have remembered it explain what what he what he deals with. Because it you can't you can't look pass it as an individual. I mean, it's a big deal. It is a big. In any walk of life. All right. If you're subpoenaed. By a federal court. That's a serious. Situation of being and compartmentalize it's easy to say you control. What trolled not to go on until you know, I get in court. And and like, we'll wait the only guy that knows what's on those states. And probably defense. I mean, there are two people that know what's on the tape. So like if he handling this, right? He says you're not totally innocent, the tastes approve me out or you know, if as he's not been he's going to have to deal with it. But until the tapes come out, I guess, he's he's compartmentalized to the point where he said, you don't have to coach by these are my guys they need me. They understand everything that's going on. I can't do anything about. What's happening? What I do is that coach my team. Now, that's a hard thing to do. I gotta be honest with you just in general when you whether it's when you're on the hat, cedar. If you're under the microscope, the people are making accusations. It's a hard thing to do. Because it's harder. You it's hard on your program, and it's harder to family his kids are younger and probably don't understand it. But know say he had teenagers sending say he had kids in high school. It would even be that much harder. Because now you have to you know, obviously, help your kids deal with such a problem. It becomes your children's problem. So I think he's handling it, really. Well, look, he might be a hundred percent of the of the is that you know, everyone moves on. But at any walk of life. You could have at the subpoena. Never a good thing. No, it is not finally you mentioned dealing with pressures in. You're coach who seemingly lived on that bubble. This time of the year and four straight months. Thank you, Paul. And then I mean going back to the situation with we'll wait. I mean, no, no one was accusing you of anything other than not being farther up on the chart in getting the tournament. But ultimately, it it it ended. I'm interested in what that does to you as a coach when you're always fighting to get into the tournament. People are whispering about your job. Does it take a toll? I'm sure it does. Oh, yes, for sure first of all when you get a you it a pretty good here because they're not they're not talking about beginning to be Carolina to save year. One year at didn't get hit which is like my teams back. Then if these sure we'd be pretty good shape. You'd be you'll be in the final four. Absolutely horrendous. But sure takes toll on your first date will realize it takes a toll on you. Because you feel for your kids like last year that I that that I had Malcolm Delaney, Jeff Allen, and Terrell bell that that was the winningest four years in the history of Jin tech basketball when he was four years playing in the ACC and those guys didn't play one tournament. So like that year that their senior year where they didn't get it. I heard for them. I been to the survivors of the system that went to the final four though. I what games answer Turk bed prefer not to be able to get that opportunity. I mean, I I when I found out I found out not by the ACC office, and the honest with you, I find out because I my mind, I do exactly. Where we stood and when I saw Surtees cough up on the brackets be vast by CBS. I knew we were done. So at the end of the third bracket, I told her guys guys were not in league. Never call me lead. Never call desists appointed thing ever. So those kids had a sit at my house after haven't been her wait to see their name pop up. People say out of nowhere to leave the out. You beat Duke be Carolina thickly won eleven games in the ACC ear beat Florida state twice, and I had to send them home. And as I can tell you that was the lowest point probably of my coaching career. It sounds silly. But because I felt for those kids, and I it's really shared experience with your players for four years. And you want wanna give it back for to to realize their dreams the tournament. And it was taken away that their last chance was taken away that was hard. You have to think about being on the hot seat is. My daughter's roller at daughters that where did you take? You know, I had a daughter was a sophomore in high school junior high school. I should say, you know, when you hurt that's one thing when your kids hurt it's another. And then when you let get let go with its or the public way in which bind was the first press conference to ever call coach go, and you told thirty minutes before the press conference at no idea, you know, you you're once again, it's not about you. It's about your family. There's nothing more about family. It's hard. I mean, it's hard. But you know, I it's a life's lesson that you know, you've got to always reinvent yourself. You gotta move on. I look I look. Or the people that he has spent if it's so good to and welcome. But they people like yourself, but you know, giving me opportunities to you know, game game a greater credibility. You know, coaching is still in it. But it would have to very special situation. Because now a part of a different team that I really joy and unfortunate to be part of. Well, we appreciate it in your honesty. I think in your authenticity is what has made you so successful. I was just hurting listening to that stories. I remembered when when when you were let go I think you were in you were entertaining or recruit where you're not entertaining or Kurt my wife, and I put on a big launch for the Marquette's side the pink ribbon lunch about eight hundred people. I just finished having lunch with my title sponsor got a commitment for them to once again, be the title sponsor, and I didn't have my soul would be towed by one hundred I got back into the office because I left it the car, and he cats and other people all of a sudden, my phone's going crazy and say we'll Gitex holding the press conference you've been hired. And I've said, I don't think so. And then I get a call thirty minutes later. And you know, I was the last last one to know that you have to get, you know, just understand. I have a daughter at school there. I've got to get her out of class 'cause sued she turns on her phone when she gets out of class. Obviously it's going to be a difficult situation that daughter high school I had to get someone to pick her up had get her out of school. And then my daughter was working in New York. I had to find a way to get some of the communicate with our so people understand that residual. Then you got your system coaches other people that you're dealing with people. Just don't understand it's easy to talk about the bubble. It's easy to talk about hot seat. Obviously part of the profession, and you know, you get paid well and all that jazz. But you know, coaches families and the head coach gets let go other people's lives are impacted and you know, it's a responsibility, and it's hard. It's hard on you know, because I was singled swamping, I'll with you're married. You have children. You see them hurt? You know, as a as a parent, you see your kisser that's about toughest thing to deal with. Seth greenburg. Incredible story. Seth really appreciate that was not my intent. And ended ask you about a couple of games. But. Really appreciate. It's real life. We all live on the bubble. Paul. I am actually in the midst of the infancy of writing a book it's life on the bubble has nothing to do with the NCAA tournament. Is we all live on the bubble? And it's how one deals with those bubble type experiences that shape who yard. So it's something that they would not deserve fortunate. So I've been blessed, but life life is full of roadblocks detours kinda, you know, they'll say, it's how you handle it that determines your, you know, your pass many. Thanks cannot wait to read that says we will talk to you soon. Your best. Appreciate anytime. You got every Friday lobby. You're in sat. Thanks seth. What is incredible story? I mean in and I'm say that as someone who who deals on the other side of that. And and I have to tell you. It's easy. Just to throw this coach in the hopper as being in trouble or that one. But when you hear the reality of it, it does chill you, and it gives you reason for pause. We'll take a break back with more on a Friday afternoon. Listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you're here. As we roll on a Friday afternoon. Really great conversation there with Seth knowing him a long time, and I've seen that side of him early in the morning at airports, but I'm so pleased that he was able to to share that with all of you. Let's continue Mickey is next up in Kentucky. How are you? Mickey. April. I remember Steve Spurrier made comment about when he was coach at do or South Carolina or somewhere other than Florida. He used to call another coach who was print his and talk about. Com on opponent that they played. Yeah. Vaguely, I remember, and I hope your memory is better than mine. There was somewhat of a scandal. Flower that. But with two s c c coaches, talk and back and forth. Do you remember that? I'm trying to remember that because. I don't I mean, I I really I really don't. Well, I think Georgia Tech was one of them. But I'm not I'm not sure that so it was so you're not sure if this was when coach was at Florida or Duke or or South Carolina. I don't think it would have been South Carolina. No, I'm not trying to put down Spurrier or how or anything. I'm just. Thought after that incident would the other coaches the rules were changed about. So the rules did what did they preclude coaches from discussing common opponents? I'm not sure. Okay. I'll tell you what I had him on the other day next time. I I'll ask him. He I'm sure he'd be happy to tell me. Well, it was probably maybe before his time to I don't know. Okay. I'll tell you. What Micky I will? I'll see if I can find out a little bit more about that. Thank you for the call though, David is in North Carolina. You're on the air on a Friday afternoon. David, thanks for taking my call. Thank you just want to throw something in there that came to me. That's just I think there's a possibility not much, but I think there's a better than even chance. Holly Warlick will still be coaching Tennessee next year. Okay. I'm listening couple of reasons. One is nothing's happened yet. You know, we're sitting almost twenty four hours since the game and nothing out of Knoxville yet the other thing, and which goes to really question that you would comment on is what does Tennessee really expect their women's pro. Because you know, there's been a decline for the last three years, it's been pretty obvious. And there've been other coaches out there on the women's program, but they haven't made a move yet. So, you know, it's points. Remember, remember one thing though, let's let's Tennessee is on its third athletic director since Holly Warlick took over for coach summit. So that's an important thing to remember. I also think if you look at her record in toll recently, there was really not a cause to to consider this conversation, and she got off to a reasonably good start at at Tennessee meant that made the elite eight three of her first four years. So no one is going to fire a coach even at Tennessee where the standards are winning the championship for for not getting to the to the final. Four the championship. Now. It's only been Simpson. The last two years coach more like has not gotten out of the second round issue. There's some debate whether not there's a lot of debate whether they'll even make the NCW tournament. So I I think that's where you have to concentrate. I think you have to look at the crowd last night. It was small it was apoplectic on senior knife. The loss was historic in. The fact that Tennessee had never lost to dander built at home. So it's more of a pressing issue. It was a it was an issue last year at the end of the season. But but Tennessee had just gone through a tumultuous change athletic director and Phillip Fulmer having gone through the same thing himself. It's not about to make a change. On stand. And that's that's a good case. And I'm not I'm not arguing that that that there's a big chance you'll still be there. But you know, the other part is we're still looking at Knoxville for some kind of word about this. So the David think about coach fomer for a second. He's a competitor. And I'm sure in his mind, he probably has talked to her today. I'm just guessing and. I don't think he would get in the way of the season and at for a coat we look at it differently. But for from coach standpoint you have another game Sunday, and then you have a tournament next week. So I think that's probably the the conundrum for him unless he has just decided it doesn't matter. What happens that maybe change needs to be made? So or maybe she said, listen, I don't I don't know how she can make an argument to keep her job. After after last night, though, do you? Don't and it's too bad. Because I know she's doing everything she can I think he has is she's just not the coach for this team. No. There is a I mean, I'm watching it on TV from my house. I'm not in the stadium where the arena, but I mean, they're just like a tremendous disconnect between those players, and I feel terribly. And I think everyone does I have friends of mine who are much closer to her than I am who were at the game. And they are they walked out and it felt like funeral because in some ways it may have been the end at least in that arena. Where so many great victories have occurred, even even under her. We're up against a break. We still have time to go with for your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five look forward to talking to you on a Friday. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Male. Okay. Let's continue with more calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five coaches up next in Morristown, Tennessee, Hilo, coach April. How are you today? We are doing. Well. Thank you. Good. Thanks for taking my call. I'd like to make a few comments. If I may on the interview did with v Greenberg. Of course, this is this is a test part of this business, you know, and as I've discussed with you before sports enough to to go through the the ranks of high school and making it to be one program. And and it was really what then interview at. There was really what I didn't stay in coach starting camera and that situation there I just what now head coach had to go through both personally and professionally and thought it was just I chose the family over that lifestyle. Now, I think coach Fulmer fighting the same battle with Holly right now because you're. Talking about someone that is a good person. Someone that's been associated with prudence from what thirty five forty years, maybe. And it's kind of he knows he probably has to make the change, but your code of indium era, a Pat summitt era, also when Holly leaves if she leaves now. So I think that's the tough part of this business. I know coach former having, you know, regrets about it. But I think in in the low I think he understands he has to do it too. Coach, you you said something interesting in and you come in contact with a lot of coaches, obviously in this profession, and there are some businesses where you can separate where you can have a career your wife can have a career, and yeah, they they may intersect at Christmas parties or occasionally. But but they are not really. They do not run. Contemporaneous -ly to one another. Where if you're the wife of a coach there's nearly. Yeah. You you can't just act like, you don't know. What I mean, you are you're part of the team. And that's that's you know, you always hear that phrase, and some people may be offended by in terms of a great coaches wife, but you understand it and you live and die. What happens? Your family or your coaches? They're just they're they're all into just as much as your system. Coach may it's a tough lifestyle. And now again athletics can go back to my life and athletic. I we're the reason I went from point a to point b in every step of my way. So it has been very warning for me going through that process. But I did see I was at a crossroads, and that's why I just I chose that the family over that low style in that profession in and I'm glad I did looking back. I do miss it. Just like every coach just like every player miss when they retire. But what's best for your family has to take prison over there now, and that was a sensitive interview listened to Seth because I I know people that are that are close to say, and and they know how tough that for gene, Texas, Wayne was on him and his family. Yeah. In his his last year got a little bit off the rails. As you remember. And sometimes these things are are Neville. And I think if you're an athletic director like Philip you want the decision to to make itself easy. And I think last night it did maybe he feels that with one more game and a road trip coming up tomorrow. It's better just to get out of her way and let her finish that. And then regroup before the the chimney she'll be playing again every team would be playing again, probably on Wednesday. I think maybe Thursday, but these things move quickly and as a head coach. When there's no way to avoid it in. And I know I I know coach you say all the time. Well, I I'm gonna bubble. I don't know what's going on. But when you have the lead sports columnist in that community who's been there now for thirty three years. Write a column that's published online at at noon today, saying the head coach should be fired. There's no escaping it. Well, they'll work something out with Holly. They're not they're not gonna fire her Holly. We're at a separation of that. And they'll be it will be I have all the faith in coach former hiring a a good coach. But it will be someone that's probably has more times to to to Pat summitt. And that's kind of the end of the air. I think Tennessee's women's basketball pro. Which has some disciples out there? But but maybe maybe that is the best thing to do is just cut the cord and start over. I think it will be, but thanks for taking my call Gary much coach so great to have you on really really interesting call there. No doubt Jay w in Tennessee up next here. Go right ahead. Top afternoon to you, Paul. Thank you very much. Art, john. I I had a couple of comments and a couple of questions to you've got the town. I've got all day. All right. My here we go. Back to while ago. When he's talking about the. Overtime situation. I've gotten out they had resolve that no disrespect intended or be politically correct and everything, but in overtime, how about just having officials, you know, football being what is it reminds me of the old leather helmet lack dad and the guys of old through the history of football. Just let it be played on the field. You know, the fficials go over to the sideline couch. Go post. And just Mark and John how about they just do that the whole day. Well, and that's another no the comment. I had tomorrow. I'm hoping to switch from football basketball. I'm hoping to see a basketball game tomorrow. Rather than football on. Yeah. You know, the starts at two o'clock I'm gonna tune in about four thirty because at that point. They'll be looking at the fifteenth review in the final minute of the game. I totally hear what you're saying. And next looks like what we're we've came to you know, avid sports fan. And by the way there again, I want to. I can't say enough about you guys. How how impressed I am with show? You know, I can turn my TV on. And the way reason I enjoy you know, I I'm looking at some truth out there. You know, you're your dignified with your with your host. You know? I just I really I really love your show back to the other day kind of lost you, I guess this only second time of Kyle in. But I I was watching a football game right around New Year's Mississippi State somebody and early in the game at target cow and had to wait. So I said I'm not watching anymore pow today. I just and I couldn't wait for your show to come on. Because I tend to enjoy. The the truth a little bit better than I do. I wanna watch the ball games. I don't watch the fficials. I hear you. Hey, listen, J w thank you for the call. Appreciate kind words for the whole crew that works here. We are up against a break. That was great more phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five and we are coming right back to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. I can't believe it that Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look here comes a one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead I know everybody. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance with gyco projected increase in organic Q three revenue. Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance policy in California. You are next up. Good afternoon. Paul good afternoon. How are you? We are doing great guy w on. First time caller about a year and a half. Or so listener, I didn't know who you were. I was swimming seven channels one day. And I thought this guy's good your Accu gir- calm and a storm of. Sports talk shows. Appreciate that Arlene. I'm a transplant Tennessee. And by the way, I was selling cokes at the games when I was like nine that is great to hear the reason. I'm calling is which the Kentucky game I hadn't I didn't start voluntarily basketball until the first November. And I watched I mean, I'm solid football fan have been all my life. But I what's that Tennessee Kentucky game. And I played high school ball. They're not so and. And I could tell from the tip from the get-go that Tennessee. I mean, these Kentucky Wildcats that's the best. I've seen them play all year they were tremendous and they were hungry. And I think they were probably a little bit scared. And they they realize they could beat Tennessee. But they couldn't until they tell the tip off. And they and they got a couple of buckets. I think you're going to be able to tell tomorrow. Just from the from the first five or six minutes a game Tennessee Tennessee's gonna do. Yeah. I think that's a great point. And I think you always hear this line Paul that Kentucky is playing with house money. I think they are they they don't the pressure is not on them. I do think it's on Tennessee because it is a critical home game. And I think Tennessee fans want to believe in their team. And there's no better way to believe in exorcising the demons of the last couple of weeks and again. Losing it out and losing LSU and and r- in erupted or notice craze. But but this team expects in wants to get to the final four, and they know they have to be Kentucky to to get a high scene, which will enable them to have a better route in the tournament. I think they just have to be a little hungrier. They have to play within themselves within the game. But they gotta be hungry. I mean that Kentucky game they were the Kentucky players were they were flying all over the court. They were hungry, and they happen to be on a they were hitting everything. And I I mean Rick Barnes did it in the LSU Dany. He finally switched to a zone, which you know, LSU. We we got a few points back then. But I think Rick Barnes has got a pl-. You know, he's got a switch it up a little bit can't play, man. The whole game in in. What's the player with a great hook shot? Oh that was on the block PJ Washington. Yeah. Yeah. I just didn't understand why they didn't double him earlier. Or somehow get him off the block. I think we can take 'em. But. Yeah. I I agree with you on that Paul. I totally agree. But I'll tell you what I will be watching the first couple of minutes and be thinking of this call Paul. Thank you very much. Let's go from California to Las Vegas and Stacey is up next. Stacey welcome to the show. A fall is going great. But it is an expert. So they'll call you this news spring really can you see that being alternative for type light the hostile players descent going to college maybe going this league. And you see a Ciro maybe that have in the future it could especially with the age. Limit going down. That's what I'm thinking. You know, they they do three year contracts. I came here with the amount. It's all three or transfer. Actually. We'll the KYW's what three years hostile drafted. It just seems like maybe that's why they're said this league. But just not being. Yeah. I mean, I think there's a there's a movement to to to undo the current system. Yeah. I don't think the NBA really wants it. But they know that they they they can't get around it and by doing this. If you if you don't make it then you have somewhere to go. It's what's that? So I do think it's a it's a really interesting approach. As well. And by the way, I'm originally from Memphis everytime. I work in the Dow's your first job. I I'll see cels back these now that that was I mean, we didn't grow up with much. But when we were able to go to feces and get something it was a big deal that was that was a very gourmet grocery store at the time. I know now every everything's gourmet with whole foods fresh market. But then that was in original that was a cool store. I distinctly remember that one. Like sales. My first job bagging groceries there six years old. But now, by the way, I I'd never talked about this. But I I did bag groceries later in my career. I was much better in bagging groceries. I was at I worked at giant foods. I don't know if you remember that grocery store, and I was significantly better. I mean, they even I was there. They even tried to taught me how to go into college and becoming a an assistant produce manager. Probably should have done it. I've I've I've been a grocery executive today instead of a talk show host. Good. Okay. Where you're okay. Well, I I did I was really good at bagging groceries. I knew I knew take to the eggs and the milk out as I as I as I drove as I push the car to the car, and I was I was it was it was it was a rebound job though. I need needed. I did not need to get fired in my second job. Like, I did my first by the way in Vegas. Tennessee has opened as a favourite, according to the Vegas houses, two and a half point favorite against Kentucky. That is expected. You would expect them to be the favourite at home.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One? And a Hello to you on a Tuesday. We're getting ready for the basketball tournament. Tamar live from Nashville hope you'll join us then. And there you will. And today, though, a lot to do with. Let's get going right now. As I said basketball in the news and no surprise the naming grant Williams again as the SEC player of the year. Nobody wanted him a couple of years ago look at them now coach of the year Kerma Davis year ago in Tennessee, middle Tennessee, now he's beaten back everyone for SEC coach of the year with his almost rebels heading toward the NC double A tournament first team waters Weatherspoon PJ from UK just like to say that and it rhymes grant Williams, of course, in gaffer's from Arkansas big game last weekend against Alabama. That's the first team man that is Jordan bone ended up on the second team Harper Tyree Admiral Scofield on the second team. I mean, there's only room for a handful on the first day. And that's why you have so many great players on team number two. Did you know this is the first year since oh seven that? No freshman all SEC first team in the ACC Zion player the year. I wonder if he would've made first team in the SEC. Meanwhile. LSU front Nasreen cleared for the SEC tournament. He was injured. That was the that was the issue there still waiting word on Juventus smart. And we'll wait. I'm not sure we're really waiting word on will. Wade. Try get four names in a sentence that begin with a w and not screw it up. I just did. Unlike we'll wait. Rick Barnes asked about a number of things. Including his fellow coach. This. The first situation has come up in college basketball. It's going on. I've been again, I in in believe me people have been in the business as long as I have not naive about any of it. You're not you like to thank the best. And you're always thinking about the student athlete, hopefully going forward and only way it's going to get sobbed as for you know, if someone's found guilty, they got to pay the price plain and simple, and I believe you're innocent until proven guilty. But if you're proven guilty, there's a price that has to be paid. And you got to pay it. Not sure that was an endorsement will way. But who knows what do I know about the law it's presumed innocent. Nevertheless. So what else is going on? There's something else. Going on FBI has been dizzy this sounds like a TV episode of law and order. Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot. This is pretty nasty. Couple of Hollywood actors lot of children going to schools, they shouldn't be going to because they're mommy and daddy. Have privilege where have we heard this before? We'll talk to John Jackson later on well known lawyer. So well, no, we have his picture. Jay Bilas has his own picture in sodas Qiwei. He's heading to the first round. Don Jackson, send us a mug. Please. But first your phone calls. I mean, the guy's got a PR man, doesn't he? I mean, we heard from his PR guy earlier day. Where's the picture? We'll get it on later. Eight five five two four to seven. I mean, we only have somebody. We were short staffed right now. Get people working on this show you and you and me, but I don't count eight five five two four to seventy eight five is our number. We would love to hear from all of you the scandal from the FBI pretty pretty bizarre. When you get right down to it all kinds of the battery going on there. Didn't amazingly didn't affect too many schools in the south of any. Former coach former assistant coach from someone in this part of the world was implicated, but mainly a bunch of Hollywood types. Again, we will get your calls tomorrow. Live from Nashville, we begin our coverage of Tuesday with William and South Carolina. How are you William equal? How we are doing great. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Me thing. Yes. This whole this whole FBI. And I was watching you when outside lines early, and I would say, wow. Do you think this will triple trickle down to like the major college sports where the NCAA finally win? It's far maybe paying layer. Yeah. I mean, I I listen. You got for listening Huffman and a couple of others involved here. I do not think this isn't necessarily going to impact the NC double A the NCW issued. A typical bogus statement today. Saying we're monitoring the situation by watching CNN and Fox News. I I mean, we're talking about sailing teams crew teams. There's I think one case SE where they were using football. But I don't think this is going to really impact. The big time college programs at all I think this was a a scheme that someone concocted and a lot of rich parents decided, you know, what I'm going to see if I can get my son and daughter into that school using athl- athletics. As a as a as a decoy? You know, when I when I saw at the top of Odiele. Falls but lane with both feet on the way. But you know, some of William I don't want to come off like. A socialist here because I'm not, but this has been going on forever. I mean, we all know someone with money who got their child into a better school than we did. Likely. I mean, I friend in college. I mean, this guy couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time. But but his father was a was a millionaire doctor and he bought him into one of the top NBA programs in America where the guy did nothing with it. But. I I didn't I didn't have that kind of money because I didn't have a dad, and my mom was was working as as a government receptionist. So I was lucky to go wherever I could. But I heard it all the all over. I I mean, it goes on went on back then it went on twenty years ago. And obviously it's going on now. I mean, the only difference today is you got a bunch of Hollywood types involved. Who want their daughters and sons to go to Warton and Harvard and Yale? And I mean, they they just can't stand the thought of maybe them going to a state university like the rest of us. I mean, I mean, you I mean all you've been saying over the years. No, right. So I mean really have nothing to. Yeah. So. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't surprised today. When I heard it. I mean, I was I was I was sick. And the that. Yeah. If they but on the other hand, I mean. Again, you have employees. Let's say you have a coach at a second or third tier school making eighty ninety one hundred thousand dollars, which is still a lot of money and somebody offers them four or five hundred thousand what are they supposed to do? I don't want that. Oh, cool. You're gonna give me five times when I'm I got my pocket right now the sneakers kid into school well down. I mean, listen college. I probably should shut up because I'll I'll be I'll be jetted I care. But what I said on that show today. I mean, college presidents are no longer educators their fundraisers not seen. I have seen it firsthand dealing with college universities. We're instead of talking about academics and an integrity and things that can help the student. All they talk about is money how much money can you? Give us how much money can you raise for us? What's it? You know, you know, anybody. I mean, I mean, I if you've got anything in this world, those colleges will hit you up. I mean, you'd better hold your wallet. When you sit down with a college educator. I see that. Now. On the thank you. Thank you for taking my call. Listen it was fake. Well, you got it. And I'm not gonna make too many friends, but I'm just I am spitting the truth you keeping the one hundred. That's why we got thank you very much. There goes my professorship anyway. Eight five five two four to seventy eight five. There goes the honorary degree, I guess. Oh, okay. I won't be there. I don't I don't to give the commencement speech. After all we'll be back more of your phone calls right after this. We welcome back. We're back talking about a number of things here on the show. Let's continue with more of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five wit, Mississippi is up next. How are you wit? I'm good good. I'm good. You're good. I'm good. They should be name. I'm okay. You're okay. I've been married me. I'm I'm great. What about you? It. I'm good, Paul good. He's still good wit. Okay. Okay wit. Let me let's let's get to some topics here. What would you like to talk about? Just how Paul I mean, this this woman as coach of the year if it sure did he did that because he he he was a not only a fantastic higher by Ross Bjork. He he coached like we've seen him coaching the past at middle Tennessee in really remarkable story when you compare. This program which had some players, by the way, but Indy. Kennedy for whatever reason could not get keep this car in the middle of the road. Yeah. Tell you what would predate the call. It was the point. You don't them? She'll that's my man. I don't even have to say his name mad. How are you my friend for a week? I don't know about where we're where it was just. You know? It's like, okay. No. But I'll contact you by Saint in football. Okay. That guy you you've run on this show from Nagy network. Yeah. I forgot his name. But agrees wanna visit. We had to say it JIMBO continues to bring in their class to bring in right now. You've got a good one in and twenty nineteen degrees in a good one in twenty twenty. It's all independent what kind of season they have this year in twenty pain but ever could season. I think an bring a good one and twenty twenty and you win and championship into dozen twenty four don't add a couple of questions for you today. Okay. Where what are the questions? One thing. Tell him on will leave for the NFL to you think anything would be family. Do you think they replaced them with you know, I'm just not met? I I agree with the first part of your conversation. I think I think the pro I think this program is really in tremendous shape. Thank you for the call David in North Carolina. Hello, david. Hello, paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Just a nerdy comment about. People buying their way into colleges or universities for their. Yes. Or anything, you know? It's the same for academics. As it is for sports. I think sure is what matters most is how you perform to get there. You can get you know, you can get a degree from Stanford University graduate with a two point. Oh GPA and you'll get overlooked for the guy who went to Cal State Fullerton, and graduated Magna cum laude. It's just persistent hard work that gets you success. It's not the college. Go to. And that's just the comment. The other. Brief question is just wondered if you read the article today by Mike Adams in the Knoxville hit. On the one about Tennessee being the amateur team best. Well knows specific about Holly Warlick's possible. Sorry. I did. I did read that. Yeah. John Adams wrote an article talking about possible replacements for Holly Warlick. I think the the most interesting name. He was Kim Kim all candy from Baylor. She's wanted to couple of championships. Tremendous coach close friend, Pat summitt couple of other names on that list as well. I mean, I I still think that's a situation that nobody really knows the answer to nobody's saying anything. I think once the bids come out next week. There will be a little more clarity. Do you think that it will make Phil Phil formers decision easier harder? If they get get accepted, the NC double I think it will make it more difficult. But I don't think it matters, David if you're if you're concerned about the long term health of the program what difference does it make being the last team in. That's not what Tennessee basketball is about. And I think if you base decision on whether you get in a tournament or not, you're you're you're not you're not really evaluating the situation in the correct manner. But then I'm not the director. He is. And I think he has a special in king awareness of that situation because of what he personally has gone through. But I don't know how he could argue that she should remain as the coach, you know, don't enough kind of felt that way for two years. But I kind of also go along with the Mike Adams background thesis that he's not that concerned about the basketball program. He came in there pretty much making it evident that he was mainly concerned about the men's football program or the football program, and he wanted to concentrate on that pretty much, but I don't listen, I understand what what would Adam said. I I don't know. I mean, Phillip Fulmer is bright, man. He if I'm sitting here three and a half hours from Knoxville, and I hear this noise on a daily basis. I guarantee he's hearing it. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Understand. He's in a predicament, though, he's he is an, and that's I I do think he has to wait it out with his decision be easier. If they don't get in the tournament. But I don't think anything's gonna champion. There aren't any more games left. So I mean, they're sitting there most experts believe on the inside. And I don't think you can you don't want to endanger your team by replacing the coach before the parents come out. Yeah. I can see that part because you could. I mean, it's not it wouldn't be fair to cost us players a chance to go to the tournament. But it shouldn't be getting internet shouldn't be the final arbiter of whether Holly keeps your job or not meet it sort of seems like you're saying, she's gone. Anyway, you may be and I listen to this is my my theory could be wrong. But I think they've already worked something out with her. I don't think she'll be back. And if she ended up back then good for her. Okay, howling. Anybody would be very happy about it. But other than maybe she and her friends, but thank you for the call. And by the way, I'm not I'm not offering opinions. I'm just giving I'm giving evaluation of of the circumstance, and I think anyone who looks past the obvious is not being honest. And one thing we do try to be here Homer. What's up Hummer? Hey this Sunday, brother good. You know? I am what's going on Homer. I'm good great. I think which full with I think that was like on the balanced funny. I thought it was funny. I hope he wouldn't truth. Call because I thought it was humorous. I wanna ask you something. You know? I don't have question for Elvin. Whatever it is. I came out bow. We'll way. Yeah. I Thurs person popped in my mind was nods read because he came from so far away the us pay possibly. That. LA's Sheila sitting artery lays to sing. They've already said he's playing in the tournament. They have your well being a guest just throw that theory one you're going to the don't his term there tomorrow. Okay, man, give you basic by he's going through the airport and you see a mob of angry clouds don't put round go for the jugular here. Great for DiPoto. Run is up next in Knoxville hell Orion. Hey, paul. How you doing? We're doing great. Thank you for calling. Hey, thank you a greetings from rocky top. And I want to congratulate great Grint Williams on to great seasons. Kids played his butt off. Let me ask you a question. And I was surprised that Jordan bone. Did not make first team. Were you surprised about that? Yes. I was and but you look at the first team, and it's just a matter of. It's I I can't remember who votes whether it's a coaches or or media, but it they're only five spots. Oh, I agree. And I I knew Admiral would be on the second team. I just thought Jordan Murphy on the first thing as well as he's played this year in rent friend us off the end and being a, you know, a captain on the new I totally agree to me. It's just. I mean, he's he's such a valuable player. But I. You start looking around this league. And where do you and who do you knock out? I guess it was the question. Agree. I agree. There's this league is so deep in talent. But you know, anyway, one more thing about the vault, and I want to talk about the scandal thing is is I would not be hurt from my big orange to be a number to see in the tournament. We've ever been a number one seat. But I would take a number suceed to have an easier route through the tournament to me the two seat in the one seat. I I understand there's a difference, especially where are you? The are you the are you the fifth team in the tournament at number two. Or you the eighth there is a difference in that. 'cause I it it doesn't show up until later. But if you're the two you've got to deal with the one in your regional, if you're the one you've got to deal with the two I mean, I know that sounds like, you know, third grade arithmetic, but but know, there's a difference between two and five there's a difference between two I mean it. It's a simple. I if the chalk holds up. You know, one place four in the in the Sweet Sixteen and then you and you play too. But you're not both know the chalk never holds up. Every you start seeing these crazy upsets, and then you're just I mean last year Kentucky, I don't think Kentucky had to play a good team. And they still got and they still lost a loyal. I say loyal loyal turned out to go to the final four. But you look you look at they they had Tennessee in their bracket. Tennessee lost in the second round, the low, then then Kentucky Liz, anyway, we are up against a break. More to a lot of guests as well. We'll talk about the big scandal today later on the scandal of the other day coming up next Jay Bilas will join us. Welcome back. So many things to talk about with our next guest. We had we still do intend to talk to him about the will Wade FBI situation. But there's another FBI situation that broke earlier today and admission scandal that is far reaching. That's where will we will begin with our very special guest. Jay Bilas from ESPN. Jay, thanks, so much for the time the varsity blues scandal, I mean, I thought I was dreaming this morning when I looked up at the television. What were you thinking when you saw it? I thought it was just bizarre. Paul, you know, there there's so much so much of of the culture now with young people growing up in sports is that they may play sports in order to get into a better cut of college or university that they could get in as just a regular student. So you do see a lot a lot of parents kind of pushing their kids rap let x because it helps get into a better school. But this kind of thing is just so bizarre. And and you know, I just can't believe people would engage in this kind of thing. Who cares for your kid goes to school? If you're gonna you know, if you're gonna pay people to take exams and all that stuff. It's just really ridiculous. Yeah. And the other side, obviously, some people were more than happy to take the money weren't they? Yeah. They. Yeah. Exactly. And and so you know, when when all these administrators are standing up. Shaking their fists at us talking about integrity because they don't pay athletes. You know, then they got all this stuff going on. It's really kind of really bizarre situation. Speaking of bizarre, let me get to one of the biggest topics that we've had here recently. And that's the will Wade situation heading to the NC double A tournament. But maybe without him. You've had a chance to digest this since last week. Obviously you followed the data's controversy. I your thoughts on on where we are. With will Wade right now. Well, I was kind of looking at LSU and Joa liba in the president LSU. You say what took you so long? You knew all this stuff in October. You know, when I went Desi media day in Birmingham will Wade was answering questions about being on a wiretap that and I I don't know whether LSU thought that the government was making all this stuff up. But it didn't take a genius to figure out that this is going to happen sooner or later, it's going to happen to a couple of other coaches, and and I I can't for the life of me figure out. Out. Why you know, why a player has to be suspended at the whiff of something some sort of impropriety, and they're they have to be proven innocent in their guilty until until proven innocent, and the coaches there has to be a body in smoking gun. You know, the coach has to be standing over a body with the smoking gun and a knife in order to be suspended. It just makes no sense to me. Well, I mean, they're two different issues here. Devante mart has not played. The school has still not told us whether he will play Friday and in Nashville, but to suspend a coach indefinitely, you've alluded to in your first answer, but reading the tea leaves here. What do you think that is indicating that they they will not let him play? And then they it seemingly leaked the story that he wouldn't cooperate on the advice of counsel. Are you talking about we'll wait or Giovanni? Let's start with worldwide because I think smart, it's a little more complex. Yeah. I mean, I I don't think it's a hard decision for LSU. They should fire them. And and I know that they're going by the contract, and they have certain thanks to go to but I'd fire them right away. If you want to sue me Sumi, we'd be more than happy to go through discovery. And a wrongful termination go ahead because he's not going to sue anybody. So they I think they're wasting their time and their energy here. But if they wanna go by the contract by the contract. Devante smart. If they I think the university put a statement, essentially saying there, there's no indication that you might they smart engaged in Iran doing but out of out of Nevada pundits of caution. They're they're holding about competition. So as it apparently. So as not to play that eligible player to curry favor with the NC double A, which is really going to be an issue here. But if there's no hint of wrongdoing on his part. I don't know why they're holding out. But you know, the truth is they're them out because they know will Wade. Is it has been engaging in improper activities here and nobody's going to be out of wiretap talking about paying people if they haven't been paying people that that's that's clear that that went on here. So that that's why they're doing it. In terms of the the incident tournament. I mean clearly there projected high, you know, all that do they have a decision to make or or do you think they'll just go ahead and play and worry about it later. Yeah. I think they'll go ahead and play. I don't I don't see that pulling out of this thing. There's too much money at stake and and too much for their university. And they I don't think they want to have their people sort of storming the offices with torsion pitch works over this thing, which which it sounds like some what do, you know with all this free will wait nonsense, and you know, fire Joe Lee, they wanna fire Joe Leyva for other reasons, that's fine. But this is one of them. It's just sort of a bizarre situation that that we have here with the way college sports works that you know, they they have the hold players out and all that stuff, and the committee the selection committee can't really do anything right now. And I don't think they should. I'm not a big believer in vacation games all that nonsense. So they're just in a tough spot because their system, you know, this the the rules don't allow the players to have anything, and when they get up, but that the whole system isn't a bind. But you know, I think I think what this what this ultimately does show us. I mean, you'd have to be painfully naive Paul to believe. Leave that all of this. You know, this this stems from one agent. So that's all there is is just this one agent. Just these few that were charged. That's all that's going on here. It's not happening anywhere else. It's not happening in football. You know, I I'm fine with people saying, hey, look, not everybody's doing. But you also have to accept like I accept that. I know not everybody doing. But I also know not only these few are doing it. Because I know that it's extends a lot further beyond this. Jay, there is a term coming up. It's almost it's hard to get to the tournament with all the other scandals going on. But I know that is business as usual. Let me get your thoughts. First of all. Year at the ACC Zion. Williamson returns, what your what your best guess on how he's going to look when when we see him later in the week. I think you'll look really good. And and I think that that will be one of the two three best teams here in Charlotte at the ACC tournament. And I think that puts them on the on the to line at the worst and and possibly on the one line if they make it to the the ACC tournament final. Yeah. He he brings a whole different dimension. Obviously to that team. But you know, it's funny Paul like, this is this is one of the stranger years that I've ever seen sort of in the tournament, selection and seeding process because we've got so many frankly average teams that are going to make the tournament field that never would have made it in past years like teams that have fourteen fifteen losses and can barely, you know, play their way out of a paper bag are going to be in are going to be in the NCAA tournament as at large teams. And then you're going to have the the. The annual debate about hey, we've got some quality mid majors that are sitting at home in favor of these major conference teams that barely won half their games and this year, they may have a point most years, they don't this year that there may be a point of Belmont gets left out. You're going to be I think you're going to hear some screaming from somebody like me. I if they put, you know, a team like Indiana in Texas or something like that where you're looking at teams with fourteen fifteen sixteen losses that that's going to be hard to stomach, but but that's sort of the year. We've had Jay Bilas great stuff as always many many. Thanks. So look forward to talking to you soon griping with your Paul. Thank you Jay Bilas leaving Knowstone on turn their about. We'll wait. You heard him loud and clear, let's take a break. Get your reaction to that more guests later on as we continue here on a Tuesday. We're back here on the program with get your reaction to Jay and everything else a five to four to seventy eight five Ray is in Fort, Wayne, you're on. The air. Hello, wayne. Elleray paul. We're doing great, right? Hey, you were talking about the big money all the universities wanted to sounds like the Michigan bullies. They met to the Rose Bowl too. Since two thousand six be line. Just got but went by Michigan state for a big basketball title. And you know, you had the top twenty five there, and I didn't see having messiah their Jimmy higher ball. Where'd you got him dead last probably? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Those guys all they care about is the money money money. That's all comes down to. Money makes the world. Go round doesn't it. Yeah. Does it's kind of sad that we don't. We don't really have much honesty and integrity left in this country. What was what was the? What was the last time? We had it right? I don't know. It's it's a hard one to figure it because they NFL base major league baseball. I mean basketball teams like all of them how they all got their scandals, don't they? They sure do. Well, thank you for the call James and Michigan on the air next. Hey, james. Are you doing Paul doing great? Longtime listener first-time caller. I was calling from big ten country here in Taylor. Michigan is I was wondering about if you think that re Travis will be back for the tournament. Yes. The LSU said he will be no excuse me. Excuse me, Craig myself. I was thinking of Nasreen. No, I I got to to play. I got the Kentucky player in the and the LSU player. Confused. We don't know yet is the answer. Hopefully, we'll know by the time we get up there tomorrow. I hope so so I thought the whole team go up and and have a good sewing. I've been Miskin my whole life, but a the UP fan my whole life. So I'm just hoping they do well in that he gets to play. Thanks, paul. Thank you very much. James great to have you on RJ in Kentucky next up on our program. Good afternoon. Hey, bob. Hey, they're good afternoon to you paw. You hit it on the issue when you said that we'll wait if he was just been a so-so coach this year, he would make gone. I don't have any doubt about that. I mean, I am by the way, I think the university intends to get rid of him. I think just letting letting the process play out, so they can have a better legal standing rat. We'll polynot thing is football and the basketball softball of gymnastics surfing, the the SEC's. I always got top notch coaches who gets the credit for this. Listen, I think I think it starts at the top the Commissioner Greg Sankey made it a priority for everyone to elevate the game. And I think once one and I'm not talking about Kentucky here. I I think once the the middle of the pack starts getting better everyone else has to get better. If if if Auburn hires, Bruce Pearl, what's Alabama gonna do this? So they go out and try to find a better coach, they probably didn't. But they try to. Sport the SEC's got several teams ranked in the top twenty five. I mean it happens. Oh competition makes everyone better. Now, the hard part about personnel. I don't know what you do RJ. But anyone who's ever tried to hire people? The the hit and miss ratio is very high. So we all miss we all think this person is is a can't miss, and they are just like Vanderbilt thought drew was was was an I thought he was too. He hasn't turned out to be very successful. Avery johnson. Looked like a can't miss. He was and he wasn't. So you just don't know circumstances, sometimes dictate why certain coaches are successful when some aren't. Thank you. Thank you. Great to hear from you. Let's check in next Shaw in Georgia. What's up Shaw? You paul? Thank you very much. You were talking about when you're in college and spend a very similar to me. My my dad died when I was a young teenager. My mama's running the business back in the late sixties and early seventies. Which is unusual time. She got me through college and work the situation, and it's even better now. Thank goodness. It doesn't matter where you I went to Georgia serving my my daughter one of my daughters, graduated in Dalian for Georgia. Southern mother at graduate is the pharmacist from Georgia. You know, thank God, Georgia scholarship, which is wonderful down. Here have that kids so much, and they go course both of them has certain out of loans to pay off. But they were in situations where they can do it. So I don't anybody putting anybody down because they don't go to the biggest college in the world or Harvard or Yale or any of that kind of stuff. And I didn't think you were. But I think some of the other guys were these folks say what you go to that. You got said, and you know, my daughter's graduating mccoo law and all that stuff. I graduated. Thank all. And I feel did. Okay. On situation. It's still worked out a lot and feel that. But you don't matter. You know, just doesn't matter where you go is what you do with it. When you get out situations the way I look at it. And I think sometimes people were too much about appearances. Well, they do. And and I think listen. Shaw. We you understand it. And I think I can talk to you. Because of what you said about our our backgrounds, but some people worry spend their whole lives worrying about what their neighbors think. And you know, it starts with who they hang around with in high school. I it affects maybe who they marry and then some people just are real. And and they do things because they believe it is correct. It it goes it cuts both ways. And it sounds like you you had a very honest and authentic upbringing and for that you should be thankful. I'll play as we've talked before. And I told you I was a coach, and I was in education thirty eight years, and it's amazing. How it changed from the beginning to the end about this stuff? You're talking about from. And I'm talking about his force. Everybody plays baseball year round. Everybody plays softball year round. Everybody does this stuff year round. 'cause we're gonna try to be as good as the next guy. We're all college athletes where we all professional athletes, and it's good for our parents to be involved with you. That's wonderful. But they also need to have a lot to do another thing. Because we I look at you, Sean, listen, I I always hate to to leave our conversations. They're always interesting. We're up against the clock. But talk to you very soon. We're back with a couple more hours.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? But pride passion and pageantry of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast you're made it for an hour. And there were the moments during our wasn't really sure that would happen. It was a feisty first hour, and you can call me Vernon welcome back. Bruce, Pearl later on more guest to come including Dan dockage. We'll talk about the cats and the PJ Washington situation. Your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and clay is up next in Tennessee. Hi, how are you, sir? We are great. Thank you. I don't want to comment on the end of the Duke UCF game that last play when Duke was behind by what three design had the ball. He he lowered his shoulder and ran over that guard just inside the foul line. I mean, just it just blatant. Of course when he got to the goal. The fall taco fog. I was inside that protective circle. So you couldn't call anything. But I n ran over that guard and then on the missed free throw. I don't know the player with the Duke player that got the rebound goes back, and he pushed the guy inside him. Now CBS when they showed a replay from the floor level, you only see like shoulder up, and then at the very end they have the overhead debut, but it's too late. It's after the push, but also Twitter feed today that showed clearly that the Duke player pushed the UCF guy. He propelled forward about a foot or foot and. Half. And when you're in that situation, you're not just going to act like that that was blatant. I mean, so if there was any collusion that was it. Nope. Collusion is competitive. And all that the real collusion in this country in the past twelve months, but also just want to say and get your opinion that once in college basketball a day once you get to certain point with the ball. If you the me all you have to do is go forward, the defensive player doesn't seem to have any leverage whatsoever. They end their teaching these guys just to drive in or just to launch into the defensive player. Now, if you've got a defensive guy that's going straight ladder when he gets there late, that's one thing. But they need to change the rule that if a defensive player is moving backward and just has his arms up they got the change to where the that that's going to be charge. You see these guys all the time. I don't think we really in a position here to to get the rules change. But we can talk to people who were in the middle of that. Thank you very much for the call. Great to have you on Derek is in Dallas, and you or on the air garage ahead. Hey there Paul one talked about the money. That's made off these the empty AA tournament games. Okay. You know? I'm proud knob from our SEC's now from Arkansas living down here in Dallas now and not only do I think that teams are just better than the rest of the country. But one thing that makes it so great is the profit sharing a read the only conference says he see that does the profit sharing of all the money that has made. I I don't think. So I I'm pretty sure it's big ten and I have a feeling others as well. It's a fair it's a fairly standard deal. Okay. We we probably just. In the Pac twelve because they don't have any profits to share. And I'm understanding that we just make more not because of that the network, but just from the well, listen to read don't sell the big ten short. The big ten network is pretty pretty successful as well. All right. And and I always get to hear you talk about a Mike fly and the legacy that he is brought onto the or the continuing legacy does great to hear some stuff like that being a thumb just call me young being in my twenties. Then get a share a whole bunch of the the start of him. But I wondered if that was a part of what he did when he brought to that. He well, let me say this about Commissioner slide. This league was in very good shape. When when he took over from for more, Kramer, ROY Kramer, helped establish really the national footprint of the by by doing the first CBS deal, and he didn't number of deals with ESPN as well. But Commissioner live enhanced that and Commissioner slide was. The one who made the final decision to go to the SEC network which has been and I'm not saying this because I'm sitting here saying it because it's factual it was the biggest launch of any. Sports network since ESPN, and it continues to pay dividends to every member institution. You can you can find the numbers all over the internet. But they are enormous. And I mean enormous so that that's part of his legacy. He he wants told me he he would prefer to be remembered for being the Commissioner of the SEC when Mississippi State until Vesta Croom broke the color barrier. That was that what he always said was his proudest accomplishment. But I will tell you as not only his close friend. But but as a student of this league that the SEC network will go down nationally as his most important accomplishment. But don't don't forget to the Greg Sankey who is the current Commissioner was Commissioner slides right hand man during that entire period. Well, I appreciate you all naming off some of those people, it seems like the SEC has so many of these legends from a Dale Brown my fly, and you just called out, you know, more filibuster Croom typo being from Arkansas, we don't have too many of the we had Derek I'll tell you this. We talked to one of your legends the other day. There was one. It remains one of my favorite interviews of the year. We have no Richardson on here. And I could talk to that man. Every day all day. Thank you, very very much for the call. Great to have you on. And I man is calling next. Good afternoon. I'll tell you that those on normal numbers for the SEC those Awale bathing them since Wes real money. And you know, it is obvious that this e is dominated no other conference got a network like this and what did the Commissioner do who d- higher? I he hired the biggest baddest gun in the west. You are Jesse James. You don't take no prisoners, and I'll you into that. I'm and our goal is to fill those jails up. That's exactly right. I mean, make America great again. Oh, you can't use it. Can you know? But anyway, will you can I don't know why. I mean, you're making more a great move forward than anyway, another topic. You know fall. I mean, I heard you talking earlier to Bernie, and you would think emerging since he's talked to you once before he would kind of get the fact that you were nailing him down to the floor. But he didn't he didn't. He didn't quite you. But I am by the end of that call Bernie was debtor than the Bernie on weekend at Bernie's. Yes, he was. Yes. He was he. And then, you know, like a true heavyweight you were not there and danced around for round two. And you in that, you're ready. You're ready for the punch and now well, I was paid to go fifteen rounds. And I gave I gave the audience what they paid me for you. That's right now you ready for knockouts not got. So not heard us talking about Auburn, Kansas. Now, I agree with you Paul Kansas played a young freshman team. But all day long, Kansas blew up blue blood, and they're young. There's and they're better than what ninety five percent of the young freshman around the country and all these basketball schools. Something like that. Something like that. Then really big numbers. And you ought to agree with me. This ain't Bernie you're talking to. And this ain't the first time I've called you up. I'm gonna call you again tomorrow and every day for the rest of your natural life war damn eagle have a little bit nervous about what happens beyond my natural life. I may will still be knocking on my door. He will who's that. Knockin? Rob is up next. Rob go right ahead. You're on the air. Hey, thank you very much for taking my call. Thank you. Earning. Hey, I'm willing to know what you thought of that Holly Warlick interview after the game when she threw the team under the bus saying they had to do more on their own time. And that they had to come back and start a new coach. I don't see how you going to do it after seven years wanting to know what you thought about that. And what was her name Westbrook? She said that the off court stuff from the staff was getting to be ridiculous, and she wouldn't say anymore. And I wanted to know what you think about Fulmer is he going to our real ringer of coke or Willie try to hire another assistant. You know, I don't know what coach fomer is thinking he has yet to make a public comment on Holly Warlick situation. I mean, I think it's time to make a decision not my decision to make what it is. But but I think the longer distracts out and I have a hard time believing. It's going to drag out very long. I'm sure they have a plan up there and. Get real upset. Wanna mayo cokes those team under the bus? But that's exactly what holiday did. And it burned me up and one more thing. I'd like say congratulations to Rick Barnes and the Tennessee vol's. I think they're gonna make fun of war. Okay. So they deserve it. Appreciate the call more to come. Dan, dockage Kyle Tucker, Bruce Pearl among our guests as we're we're still young to show them Monday. We'll talk to Dan dockage, what kind of job is Alabama back. We have made it to the second hour and there were some moments during the first hour. I wasn't really sure that would happen. It was a feisty first hour, and you can call me Vernon welcome back. Bruce, Pearl later on more guests to come including Dan dockage. We'll talk about the cats and the PJ Washington situation. Your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and clay is up next in Tennessee, Oakley. Hi, how are you, sir? We are. Great. Thank you. I want to comment on the end of the Duke UCF game that last play when Duke was behind by what three Zayn had the ball. He he lowered his shoulder in ran over that guard just inside the foul line. I mean, just it was blatant. Of course, when he got to the goal of the fall, taco fog. I was inside that protective circle. So you couldn't call anything. But I n ran over that guard and then on the missed free throw. I don't know the player with the Duke player that got the rebound goes back in. He pushed the guy inside of him. Now CBS when they showed the replay from the four level, you only see like shoulder up, and then at the very end they had the overhead debut, but it's too late. It's after the push, but also Twitter feed today that showed clearly that the Duke player pushed the UCF guy. He propelled forward about a foot or. Footmen half. And so when you're in that situation, you're not just going to act like that that was blatant. I mean, so if there was any collusion that was it no coercion. Collusion is compared to us and all that was the real collusion attack on this country in the past twelve months, but also just want to say and get your opinion that once in college basketball day once you get to certain point with the ball. If you the all you have to do is go forward, the defensive player doesn't seem to have any leverage whatsoever. They in their teaching these guys just to drive in or just to launch into the defensive player. Now, if you got a defensive guy that's going straight ladder when he gets there late, that's one thing. But they need to change the rule that if a defensive player is moving backward and just has his arms up they got the change to where the that that's going to be a charge. You see these guys all the time. I don't think we really in a position here to to get the rules change. But we can talk to people who were in the middle of that. Thank you very much for the call. Great to have you on Garrick is in Dallas in you or on the air gerrad ahead. Hey, there Paul one talked about the money that's made off of these empty AA tournament game. Okay. You know, I'm a proud knob from our SUV's now from Arkansas living down here in Dallas now and not only do I think that teams are just better than. The rest of the country. But one thing that makes it so great is the profit sharing a read the only conference says he see that does the profit sharing of all the money that has made. I I don't think. So I I'm pretty sure it's big ten and I have a feeling others as well. It's a it's a fairly standard deal. Okay. We we probably just. Other than the Pac twelve because they don't have any profits to share. And I'm understanding that we just make more not because of that DC network, but just from the well, listen to read don't tell the big ten short. The big ten network is pretty pretty successful as well. All right. And and I always get to hear you talk about Mike fly and the legacy that he is brought onto the or the continuing legacy does great to hear some stuff like that being a someone just call me young being in my twenties didn't get a share whole bunch of the the start of him. But I wondered if that was a part of what he did it when he brought to that. He will let me say this about Commissioner slide. This league was in very good shape. When when he took over from for more, Kramer, ROY Kramer, helped establish really the national footprint of the SEC by by doing the first CBS deal, and he did a number of deals with ESPN as well. The Commissioner live enhanced that and Commissioner slide was. The one who made the final decision to go to the SEC network which has been and I'm not saying this because I'm sitting here. I'm just saying it because it's factual it was the biggest launch of any. Sports network since ESPN, and it continues to pay dividends to every member institution. You can you can find the numbers all over the internet. But they are enormous. And I mean enormous so that that's part of his legacy. He he wants told me he he would prefer to be remembered for being the Commissioner of the SEC when Mississippi State, and so Mr. Croom broke the color barrier. That was that what he always was his proudest accomplishment. But I will tell you as not only his close friend. But but as a student of this league that the SEC network will go down nationally as his most important accomplishment. But don't don't forget to the Greg Sankey who is the current Commissioner was commissioners lives right hand man during that entire period. Well, I appreciate you naming off some of those people it seems like the has so many of these legends from a Dale Brown my fly, and you just called out, you know, more Phil Vassar Croom typo being from Arkansas. We don't have too many of the, but we had Derek I'll tell you this. We talked to one of your legends the other day, and it was one it remains one of my favorite interviews of the year. We had no one Richardson on here. And I could talk to that man. Every day all day. Thank you, very very much for the call. Great to have you on. And I'm Anne is calling next. Good afternoon. I'll tell you that those are normal numbers for the SEC those Awale Bingham SIMS west real money. And you know, it is obvious that this e is dominated no other conference got a network like this and what did the Commissioner do who d- higher? I he hired the biggest baddest gun in the west. You are Jesse James. You don't take no prisoners? And I learned to that. I'm and our goal is to fill those jails up. That's exactly right. I mean, make America great again. Oh, you can't use it in, you know. But anyway, will you can I don't know why. I mean, you're making more a great move forward than anyway, this a topic, you know, Paul I mean, I heard you talking earlier to burning and and you would think emerging since he's talked to you once before it would kind of get the fact that you were nailing him down to the floor. But he didn't he didn't. He didn't quite. But he. Oh, I am by the end of that. Call. Bernie was debtor than the Bernie on weekend. At Bernie's yesterday was yes, he was he like a true. Then, you know, like, a true heavyweight you went out there and Dan strand for round the two and you and now you're ready. You're ready for the punch in now while I was paid to go fifteen rounds, and I gave I gave the audience what they pay me for you. That's right now you ready for knockouts not got. So now, I heard you talking about Auburn Kansas now agree with you Paul Kansas played a young freshman team. But all day long, Kansas is a blue blue blueblood there. Yo there's been they're better than what ninety five percent of the young freshman around the country and all these basketball schools. Something like that. Something like that. Then really big numbers. And you ought to agree with me. This ain't Bernie you're talking to. And this ain't the first time. I'll call you up. I'm gonna call you again tomorrow and every day for the rest of your natural life ward damn eagle, ever good. But nervous about what happens beyond my natural live. I may will still be knocking on my door. He will who's that knocking? Rob is up next. Rob go right ahead. You're on the air. Hey, thank you for taking my call. Do. Thank you. Hey, I wanted to know what he's out of that Hollywood like interview after the game when she threw the team under the bus saying they had to do more on their own time. And that they had to come back and start a new coach or I don't see how he's going to do it after seven years wanted to know what you thought about that. And what was her name Westbrook? She said that the off court stuff from the staff was getting to be ridiculous, and she wouldn't say any more. And I wanted to know what you think about Fulmer is he going to our real ringer of coach or really try to hire another assistant. I don't know what coach Volmer is thinking he has yet to make a public comment on a hollyw- early situation. I mean, I think it's time to make a decision not my decision to make what it is. But but I think the longer this drags out. And I have a hard time believing. It's going to drag out very long. I'm sure they have a plan up there. Yeah. And I know everybody seems to get real upset when a male cokes those team under the bus. But that's exactly what holiday did. And it burned me up and one more thing. I'd like say congratulations to Rick Barnes and the Tennessee vol's. I think they're gonna make the phone afor hope so they deserve it. Appreciate the call more to come. Dan, dockage Cal Tucker, Bruce Pearl among our guests as we're we're still young in the show on a Monday. We'll talk to Dan dockage, what kind of job is Alabama. Welcome back. Glad you're here. And we're working our way through with the bucket, the Wildcats and what they're dealing within the PJ Washington conundrum with call Tucker, Bruce Pearl in the final hour. We are busy today. And understandably, so let's check in next with Kevin who's up on the phones at Hello. Kevin from Alabama. Hey, how you doing Paul? We are doing great. Thank you up. Think. Auburn will be nor clown. North carolina. Thanks. Kevin preset. You chime in gem is up next in Michigan. General all great great. I'm still trying to figure out who read Bernie drivers like to them. Well, you know, apparently, maybe Kentucky has different requirements than the states that I've lived in. Well, I'm L A. You all the way, and I'm wondered if their cars and cell phones now in Kentucky. Kentucky. I think is pretty contemporary in that regard. Yeah. Well, I'm up here in Michigan. And I graduate of L S Q eighty one. So you know, what we've been going through with that basketball team. No mutt. Yeah. I got my new black FCC shirt on and I'm LSU out head to toe, and I'm state fans here habit fall. There would be amazing to see LSU cut. The nets down in the lower the banner or I mean, raise the bed. Hey, I think it if possible their teams that were good is LSU that beat them this year. You're right. Well, Jim best wishes up there in Michigan with all those Michiganders' Richard is in Tennessee, you're on the air. Hello, richard. Hey, how you doing? We're doing great, sir law. What you've got a great program. I talked to you about two weeks ago about Holly and a. It was a Sunday or yes. Going for. It was in yesterday's paper. I've never heard Tele. But coach you might get a state like she did it says. The lady the future of the lady vol's is out of control. Now, I've been a eighty three years old. I've been a Tennessee tie in full recept years, and I've never in my life or the coach Dennis e making mistake of our cat. What did you take? I apparently that statement is not going down. Very well, listen, she she has to say whatever she feels like saying, but I don't think it's going to help her. 'cause do you. I don't think so I think well fourth two of four mastery Knoxville. And they said it coach Fulmer whether going say making it statement about Holly until the men vol's finished out. So then he's going to Iraq. And then these going like statement. So he said he's not gonna make say mental Tennessee's go over that again. Well, the guy was on this one of the sports guys talking on on on TV yesterday. He said that former would you wasn't going to make any statement about Holly until the men balls Pitney style. He didn't want to. Yeah. Well, listen that sounds great in theory. But you know, there is there a recruiting issue. I don't think you can afford. I mean, what if what if Tennessee doesn't finish till April eighth? Yeah. It's going to be bad at it. I don't believe that. I mean, you you you still have recruiting I think ever create immense recruiting going on right now. I'm assuming women's are. No different. Yeah. Yeah. So I personally I think coach Fulmer is going make steak, but the next within the next few days because he's not willing to go and go. Well, listen, I don't know what's difficult to decide. I mean, they they had. There was a two week layoff between the SEC tournament in the double most people assume they'd get in and most people correctly assume they would get right out. So they've been eliminated since Friday. What's there? What what is there to decide? What what what what compelling argument could anyone make including Holly Warlick to keep her job. I don't think there's anything else after saying to the, you know, he's I think he should go ahead and say, you know, what back this nine of what he's doing today. Let people own and Richard. Thank you. I'm not trying to us. What what what did we get here as a gauge? But I've yet to have anyone call in and say, she should remain. It seems like the Tennessee fans. Are there's a preponderance of Tennessee fans who want her out. For one which it would be decided. Either way in blinking one. Could note that moment blaming Lehman is up next in Kentucky. That's me. How you doing Paul? We're doing great. Thank you for the call. I I'm calling. I don't have to take up for brought in a little bit. And I'm only answer football questions the basketball born, okay? Okay. Okay. There's no bad than Alabama is the greatest football program. The reas in the nation. Would you do that? Well, not this past year. But it's over overall. I would say it's a pretty accurate statement. Okay. Do probably played the best game. They played all your ways. No they play best game. They played out. Your his Kentucky the first game of year. Would you agree with that? Okay. I'm gonna I'm going to agree with that. Okay. Kentucky all kind of asked me if I'm a communist next question and say, would you agree with that? I'm going to jump out of my chair. Okay. I'm not going to answer that. But, but but I think Vernon has Virga point he'd tell me. He is the winningest program in the history. Lehman Vernon had a very narrow minded myopic opinion Kentucky is a great basketball school. Anyone who watches his show who watches this network knows that but he was upset that I that that people had been saying the Duke North Carolina's to gain that everyone wants to see in the championship. And and I agreed with that. Because I said today in two thousand nineteen those are the two most prolific programs the two wishing three of those games. Already the three North Carolina games have been the three of the most watched games Kentucky is very good Kentucky's. Great. But right now Kentucky does not have a rival like Duke or does with North Carolina. It's the number one rivalry and all college basketball, and there's not even a second choice. And I will agree. I agree with Lavery park. What I district with that can chug it can play Duke or Notre Lanham anywhere in the nation and could tug it will have more fans in the stands the neither one of those groups, which may why would knowing argue that I mean, Kentucky fans are the best. But where he was trying to make a case that Kentucky and in Kansas or the two bluest of blue bloods in the country. And I was just simply saying today, and that's that's I try to deal in today. Kentucky over if you say what are the five biggest programs in college football history. Five biggest basketball programs. You're probably gonna start with Kansas. As basketball was invented Kentucky would be on that list. But so would do in North Carolina and tried to claim because I live in that state. I have a bias. I mean, are you kidding? That has nothing to do with it. I'm not from. The country. I mean, I I get enough ACC every day in my life that that I have to take DRAM me not to just to avoid getting air sickness. We'll take a break. More of your phone calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. We'll talk about Kentucky a little bit later as well as Bruce Pearl. Join us as we get you ready for the Sweet Sixteen. Welcome back to the program. Glad you are here. And let's move along and talk to Bill in South Carolina. Hey, Bill, you're on the air. Hey, can you hear me? Okay. Yes. I can you sound great. Okay. Super. Thank you talked before about the integrity of the game in football. And I don't know if you're calling we've talked about lending scored it Clemson Penn State and other school. But anyway, the integrity of the game and the integrity of the system both academic. And in sport wise is extremely important. I mean, we his feed off this stuff the sports now. And I still think that this this guy there's a there's a journalist who received the courage war in several years ago. And this guy's name is Dan Kane, the rights for the news and observer in Raleigh. Oh, yeah. I know he's the one that broke the North Carolina's story didn't they right, right? And there's a new article out by by him and another man I forgot who it is. But they came out in January which again addresses what happened. It's shocking both the academic fraud and the use of the before. A teaching by the by the athletic department, and typically I would ask you, please. You're very honorable man. And and you treat everybo- you treat everybody beautifully even old guys like me. But I think it would be great to have an exposition on. You're just have Dan Kane come on explain what was found. It was it's shocking now whether sanctions should be imposed or not that's that's another story. I think you and I both fell for a red herring here where Davis when which Davis was was was sanctioned and the football team in two thousand. I think it was twelve right problem is there had been academic flawed going on from nineteen ninety three to two thousand eleven where were classes that didn't even exist in half of the people taking the classes were athletes who had been would sent to those classes by staff faculty, and I'm sure the athletic department. Why not it was a free? Great. And in the process, I think we may want to look at maybe a national chain. Pressure for two by the basketball team because many of the athletes who went there for basketball players. Did they have enough credits to play basketball? I would suspect. No, I think this needs a real exposition people need to and by the way, the NCAA talking about courage, lack none in this process. They gave to bogus reasons to why they could not do anything. And of course, NC the the UNC folks lawyer up and as soon as they did the NCAA backed off unlike Missouri, not my heart goes out to Missouri. I'm no fan of Missouri, by the way, but I think they've been royally taking advantage of they North Carolina spent twenty one million dollars lowering up in pay it bought them national championship for ROY Williams. Yes. But that's garbage. If it is. But the listen, I don't want to relitigate that case. I think it's important. I think it's important that we. The issues the issues involved, the the bylaws of the NC double A and the academic issues did not fit yell. No. I if you read your article review article to January when we'll see the reasons given by the NCAA or bogus. No, I understand. The people that were that were on that committee. That heard the case are it is it is our and there's I've never I've yet to meet a North Carolina fan who's the least bit embarrassed by it. Can you do me a favor though? Can you have Dan Kim, moan and tell you what happened? It would be wonder. How would I do not know him? But I would be delighted to we'll get him on when I say, thank you. Oh, no look forward to it. That's a great suggestion of appreciate it Spence in Jackson. Tennessee is up next. Hey, spence. Mister Powell day and much call or doing great. Thank you you or your role in today. You put out the challenge they bring it or say own I'm gonna take a different tent on a Vernon's comment and let you know and listeners, I I'm from Tennessee. I'm actually from Memphis a gun my masters. Get say, no, we have something common as far as you know, our home, but I'm true southern guy. But I lived in California for a very long time and west of the Mississippi other than Kansas, which lot of people consider a fly over state. The biggest rivalry in sports is USC and UCLA. Interesting. I didn't realize that. And again, that's after spending ten years out there. You know, there's a lot of people. There's a lot of money, and that's that's my two cents on it. Well, I'm glad to hear from you spend. Thank you, very very much. Let's go to William who is in Alabama. Hello william. Hello. Hey, how are you? They're nice to talk to you follow. I'm a thirty year old reader listener and watcher hang over much. I just wanted to ask you about. Dial about basketball I've seen John Pelfrey was mainly inner on colts. Yeah. Do you think he has any chance to get the job? No. I don't think he has any chance. You full it south Alabama book was the fault at all. And so so I really think. As a former Kentucky player, he was a longtime assistant under Billy Donovan. He did a great job in mobile. He did a terrible job in Fayetteville, but he is only the interim coach right now, and he is simply holding down the fort until Greg Byrne hires burden intermediate, what's that you think Obama have any chance of going big name coach there. Yes. I do. Auriol? You have any idea who might be. No, I don't I do think they're looking at some prominent candidates and Greg Byrne came out today and addressed the media and pretty well eliminated. Some of the ridiculous candidates like Rick Pitino. He didn't say that specifically. But by talking about integrity. He did. Runny is up next. Ronnie go right ahead. I'll have your day going. Excellent. Thank you. We talked about this one and done. You know, it's always when only college basketball, but it was all ways to their junior year. Now, they're leaving that freshman and sophomore. And it puts a lot of pressure on the coaching staff. Accrediting that's the one number one issue. Do you think then say AA will ever change their law where you have to play two year for whatever I think, it's highly. It's more likely that you will do away with the one and done and allow players to go directly from high school than you will see them raise the classification. I mean, they've already lowered the age that's the newest legislation to go. I expected to or three years. We'll we'll see the return of what we saw years ago and high school players will go directly to the NBA very few can do it. But when this year could have done it, quite well, we're back with more.

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Hour 3: SEC Women's Basketball Media Day

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Hour 3: SEC Women's Basketball Media Day

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Well, I'm not really fast enough to catch up with jasmine homes if she's out on the break because we know how quick you are jazz. What has practice been like replacing four out of five starters, and you becoming the new point guard? It's been very intense every day we go hard knowing that we've lost some starters on. We just know that we have to pick up the slack. So coach Schafer is known for spending at least one night a week in his office. If he spent one night a week in his office with last year's team, how many nights do you think he. Is going to spend in his office this year. I think just probably about the same amount just one because I'm thinking you guys might make them sleepless a couple more nights with a new lineup. But you do have big t control the ball into how much fun. Is it Ben to play with a player that has her skill set on the inside just knowing that I have six seven under the basket and just being able to throw it up there by Mr. layup or if PEOs misses the layup. I know she's there to get the rebound jazz. The last two seasons you've been this close to winning the national championship. What has your offseason Ben like using that as motivation is just one more. We have to do one more every day, and that's what we've been doing every single day in practice. Just one more. Do you have the stamina to be able to sit in a deer stand with Vic Schaefer hunting deer, watching film. I don't think that don't do much hunting. Yeah. I don't think any of us would want to sit in a deer stand that long because I'm sure he's out there really breaking it down, isn't he? Yes, ma'am. Okay. So you're crowd your fans, the culture, the way you built? Mississippi State basketball, how much fun is it to play at home, especially when you guys get that white outgoing, amazing. We have the best fans in the country. There there no matter what when our lose is amazing. Well, I can't tell you how excited we are to watch you guys play this year. You're picked to fix pick to finish number one last year. You lost four starters a year before you lost four starter. So actually you guys are replacing eight starters off a team that went to back to back national championship games. What does that say about the culture of your team. I mean, it's pretty good. We have players, so we're going to get it done. We wish you luck. Thanks a lot. Thank you. All right, Peter, there you go. Jasmine home. See if you can catch. No one can. That's the case we're going to be here talking to tear mccowan and conviction for here momentarily. But let's talk about this Mississippi steam Mississippi State team. You lose a lot, but you also gain a big player as well to what does that look here? Look, they gained a real big player. I know they lost the four, the four seniors. They lost three players that shot forty percent behind the arc. I mean, this is a tremendous three point shooting team, but when you gain a player in the in grad transfer, atrial Howard, you gain a phenomenal player a player that to tied to her last two years average. They double double. I mean, that is a huge benefit to receive on your team. So it's going to be really interesting to see how she integrates herself playing in that post area with tear Macau. I have news for you Peter. There's more than an. Real Howard Scher, Daphne white. A six. Five freshmen could be as talented of freshman prospect as Vic is had at Mississippi State since he's been there. And that's one of the things, right? It's like, how do you capitalize on the success that you have is a program and keep it going? We see that in football college football fans know that going, hey, you had a run like Dan Mullen had the run in two thousand fourteen, how is he able to continue to build that in starkville and that's what Vicks trying to do there. I thought one thing that date really well last year and the year before he played his bench players as much as he to give them that experience when they needed to get into the big games when he needed to rest his starters or whatever, he had bench experience with some minutes, look jazz home. She's going to step into that starting point guard spot, but she got big minutes last year on that team. There's called developing players. And I think it's something that that Vick and his staff at Mississippi State do as well as anything they do. They do a lot of things well, but developing players is at the top. Of the list. They keep them coming on. They play them extended minutes in reserve roles and when they're ready to go that you are talking about with Vic shape. Vic up. You didn't say anything bad care Macau, which just waiting like, oh my goodness. What did you tell me came up here? I thought you knew give a heads up, take it all back. The things that I just Vic, what's this? What's this ride been like this off season. I mean, obviously it was there in starkville the viewing party in your just right there. How do you take that bottle it up and turned it into success in this season? Well, it's certainly been crazy. I mean, we've not really stopped I, they've asked me, have you really thought about an answer is no. I mean, I really we haven't had much time. I've it's hard for me to say no, when somebody asked me to come speak, I'm just not real good at it. So I've, you know, my staff and I, we don't turn down clinics when they ask us. We feel like we need to give back and we try to do that as much as we can and now is in Tupelo last night, speaking to three hundred and fifty in the show with county last week, speaking of five hundred minutes just hard to do, but you know, it's you better stay humbling, hungriness legal, this legal Hamayun hurry real quick. I just wanna show this personal story and I had with you. I was down in starkville and to build upon. On that giving back, we're sitting there. It's off season and you're getting text because there was a hurricane down in Houston. Esau you single handily for about two hours in the middle of the day. Just try a call and people in making things happen when it wasn't for me, it wasn't for the media was just something in your heart. And I think that's a lot of people haven't seen that part of it, and that's a kudos in Sierra. It gets an opportunity that every single day and that program while those folks were that was home for me. You know, this time last year they got hit pretty hard, and a lot of my friends lost everything. So Holly not loaded up, big, big truckload of stuff and and drove down there one evening and dropped it off at a school. And again, that's just, you know, that's just what we do. You know, when people need help us what you do, they cow. Let me ask you this. How many fishing trips have you taken since the final four. Hall said some point I'm telling you I wear fished a little bit, but not as much as I have in the past. I just I didn't get as many opportunities when I went. You know, you guys need to know is just like scouting. You know, when we're play somebody, I've got the report, I know where they are and I know what they're biting on. So if I'm going down there, you're not going fishing. I'm going catch. So when I went, I caught plenty of fish, but just the trips were fewer and far farther between. Just because just from so busy. Yeah, he got the grind continues, even though the success has come, the grind continue. You may have heard us talking about the the manner in which you've developed player since you've been a Mississippi State. It's been really impressive. A lot of people that I talked to think that Daphne white is as talented player as you have signed at Mississippi State. Would you agree or disagree with that? What they're certainly thing, raw -bility wise. She's, she's someone that you know is miss capable somewhere down the line. Not quite ready right now, but we'll certainly down the line. I think in her career has a chance to be really special care. Mccowan was down the line if I recall correctly and look what down the line looks like the year. You know, you've been absolutely amazing in your career, your ability to improve, not the play. We all enjoy watching you play, but to see you do something different as you from year to year and even within a season has really been impressive. What could we expect at my bit a little bit different this coming year. Gotta try to focus more on making. The first shot is coaches say and not, you know, missing like the second third time and Dan getting it. That's just because she doesn't want Howard over there rebound. Yeah. So this year she's not gonna maybe have as many offensive rebounds because maybe some of those who are coming off of those miss shots, but you're still go, percentage will go up higher. So that's a good thing. What is it? How's it been having a unreal Howard, the transfer from AM on the practice floor. Y'all haven't played a game yet, but how has she. Integrated herself into the team fits in. Well, you know, she's very competitive eased as he brings it. He now she's always rebounded, and so it just makes me want to go in and go to the boys more as she goes over both his in their competing each day for who's going to get three now. So y'all just fighting each other like crazy for boards we could. We've been talking. Her out. Sort of. Yeah, just so you know, there's plenty of rebounds go around. Base to have. That's my concern is they're going to get their average goes rod. Now we're not having a hard time making shot here. Made lost three shooters that shot over forty percent behind the arc. So how do you, how are you going to change your style of play? Or how does that affect how y'all look festively this year? So you know, those kids really shared the ball to with each other. I mean, they enjoyed the assist as much as they enjoyed making the shot and look, you know, we lost four starters going into last year staying right? And so we lost four more now going into this year's team. But last year saying, we're going to be different this year that look last, your steam was different, too. I mean, that's the most offensive team. I've ever been affiliated with thirty four years ago ching so that team was different. I complained all the time about us defensively. I didn't think we were very good yet. We held people to fifty six points a game. This year's team, we're going to be different. Again. I do think we're talented and I think we'll be good, but we're going to be different. Maybe if I can get them to defend a little bit, maybe more like we've been in the past, but you know, I think all of our all of our pliers right now are working hard and they're trying to fit in. I don't think I've changed yet. No, I don't think I've changed how we're going to try to play thank this team as a chance to run. We've got some kids that can really get out and run Jordan Danbury and jasmine homes now they can fill line quickly and certainly we got people that can rebound it. So how much easier is this year compared to years past now that you're, you're the coach on the on the court. I mean, I wouldn't say it's easier, but I mean my roles, you know, as being like this senior on the team have to like till or like give information to my other teammates who haven't been here to like what they should do, what they what I suggest they should. Do you feel comfortable growing into that role as season continues to go on? Yes, I think I'm pretty comfortable. I mean, it gets hard as she smiles at everything right now. I love this kid. I love it. Let me ask you this. You just mentioned that teams to fifty six points last year. That's pretty damn good. And you want better than that. Can this team be better than that defensively? I think the that still the bay determined not you lose a kid that took ninety charges in her career. You know. It's going to be Morgan, took fifty two in one season Blair took nine or career. So I mean, I think you know, it's still to be determined. We're gonna play. You're gonna have to play some some young kids who maybe don't understand help side defense much less trying to keep somebody in front of you the way we try to play. And so really puts an really puts an emphasis really on tier in jazz in Jordan who've been in our system have played in our system khloe. They understand the importance of defending so. This team again, this is they're going to their identity. I think still out there. You know the thing, one of one of the things that impresses me is as your program has improved. As you all have gotten to this level that you enjoy now everything about you has has adjusted to that success and particularly your schedule. You know, you got a couple of pick came. You got a couple of national games? Yeah, couple in the preseason. I think the Mississippi State Oregon game could be absolutely lights out. So to speak a little bit about the non conference schedule and what you hope to accomplish. Yeah. I mean, we gotta go to Virginia. Team that really gave us fits at our place last year in our opener, got to go to Texas and Sweet Sixteen that Scott quite a few back gotta go out to Oregon and play Kelly and his great team. We've played them now three this. It'd be three years in a row. And so we've got to return to them. We've got the big east champion Marquette at home. And so you know, it's it is a monster schedule and really challenging, but I know my older kids would rather have that sure. I would rather have some three name directional schools. Wait for my for my young kids. We just don't have many of those, and and so it's going to be a big challenge for us. I'm opening up playing the division two national champions in an exhibition game. So you know, we're going to be challenged early and often, but I do think it gets guess what guess what? Vick. Nobody feel. Sorry. I don't mind. Here's a five or six years ago. I don't know if that's the case, but a credit to tear has done what you've built down full. Everybody sits there and goes, we have an opportunity against Mississippi State and that's the marquee games. Everybody comes to, you can get continued success and we look forward to you and go ahead and say it praise the Lord Lord, and go down to get it. We'll have more coming in from SEC women's hoops here in Birmingham, Alabama. When re return here, the grand bohemian hotel, you're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. I welcome everybody back into the Paul finebaum show Peter burns no foreigner and Andy Landers here in Birmingham, Alabama. I have put everything on my room charges on Andy's room Bill gauge. I can't wait until you check out of this hotel. It's going to be crazy fancy stuff. I used a stolen credit card anymore. Some stuff on there to go get up besides, we'll be fine. I can't wait for this season because I think it's intriguing. I felt like last year we knew it was South Carolina in Mississippi State felt like there. Was that upper tier, like like in football felt like even even last year, there was a tier of Alabama in Georgia football this year. It seems like that tier includes maybe a Tennessee and others in other squads. Where where are the tears in women's hoops this year in this conference? I think it's a pretty wide open conference, but g get the nod to Mississippi State first and foremost because of tear mccowan the six, seven inside player that just cleans up so much offensively defensively for the BULLDOGS. But you've got a lot of unknowns because we lost some big time players last year, Asia Wilson gone from South Carolina. You've got the four seniors gone from Mississippi State. They have to be replaced. He got the Mercedes Russell and Jamie NAR gone. So you've, you've got some real question marks so that really does open up the Bank for other teams to really make some noise and for some other players to become stars in this league, I would think there's an upper half on lower half. I think that they're seven better teams and saying that regardless of which seven teams I picked and put in there. I'm a believer that one of those in the lower level could work their way in to that upper seven. I just think that that there is a difference. I think that there are seven teams that have something may particularly talent a little more dangerous at some point in their game show than those those those other seven teams, they have a little bit more talent. And, and that's the difference. We've heard this from coach yo a little bit. We heard this for Robin Pinson at Missouri position lists basketball that seems to be the buzzword this week. What do you make of that? This is what I make of it. I think that big kids in this game want to shoot threes and they want to be told that they can go outside and put the ball on the floor and be a player that doesn't have to just get banged on in the in the paint. That's what I think a lot of where position lives basketball comes from, because we're seeing in the NBA five out, we're seeing big and seven foot or shooting three pointers. And so it just trickles down to our game. So right now, and it's fair. It's fair. We've got six. We've got six, two, six, three, six, four kids. It can put the ball on the floor. Look at Asia, Wilson ladder. Here we have those players in our game that there there's the position was basketball, but let me ask you this going forward about this. So that's what it is coach. Ken that work. It absolutely can work at is working on the men's side. It is working in the NBA that WNBA and then some places, Connecticut is a team that you could say, plays position, Lewis, basketball, what what it really means is you to me is you have versatile players who can move around the parameter and do multiple things now make no mistake about it. I don't think position Lewis basketball can work. If you do not have players with multiple skills, you have to be able to dribble. You have be able to pass and you have to be able to shoot the three with some range. You must be able to do those three things. If you can do that, then you simply spread out typically a four out one high one low somewhere, but four out create spaced whereby you can drive get to the round, lead up, draw, help kick it out for. A three, and that'd be a recruiting bonanza or a good recruiting pitch to some kid and just say, hey, listen, I know you're six, six or six, five. And you're, you're just, you should go down low and normally, but I don't want you to play that in this offense. It can coaches use that as an advantage. Well, that's what I was talking about when I would not. I said it's mainly about the big players because you're talking about your six two's, two, six is wanting to go outside and shoot three's kids wanna do that. They don't want to get banged up on the block anymore. So that's exactly what we're talking about. You're looking at the big kids, but now they have to be able to to dribble. They have to be able to pass. You laughing at. I have a six, four kid from Russia, don't you want to float around shoot threes. I pinned her down to the block. She was an excellent low post player, long story short. It gets to the end of the year. She decides she wants to transfer a friend of mine called me and said, hey, I'm this gives good player. Why she? She starts why. She said she wants flow around shoot three piece needle. I need a low post player. First thing I know she's up there visiting what did he tell her? Shoot. Does she have success now she went to the blog post because that's got it. Yeah, it can be a recruiting bonanza, but you'd better stick with it because if you don't, they'll trank speaking of transport in real Howard transferred from Texas, ain't him to Mississippi State. We're gonna be joined by Gary Blair coming up. I got, I got a different view on that. Nothing than than most people do. I'm not sure how effective she will be at Mississippi State. I think she would have been more effective by far at Tex at Texas. Am I just think that you have mccowan around the basket who's going to get her fourteen rebounds and going to control things around the basket from rebounding and scoring standpoint. Now think it becomes very difficult for Enron Howard to do as much at Mississippi State as she could have done it, Texas. We'll ask about how it affects his an MTV and what they're going to doing going forward as well too. When we return here. When you ask him that I don't want to be around when you asked him, you're going to host the rest of the show that question. He doesn't want to do. Will he asked that question Gary Blair, stay tuned coming up next. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Whoa, is me will always be that now it's time to helping us be. The radius brought to you by holiday inexpressive is was not what was me were happy about this coach. Gary Blair in the Kennedy Carter show. That's that's exactly what's your Johnson was calling it. So you're shaking your head is, is it not the Kennedy Carter show right now? Austin, Texas Aggie show joke with me like that train well coach, well, she's doing a great job of trying to make her teammates better because she's the only returning starter and this is the first time in forty, seven years of high school and college did not have a freshman on the team. So I'll be starting five soft fours and nine sophomores altogether. So bid different, but more maturity but five solve more starting though. Wow, goodness. Well, Gary, I mean, I guess the most obvious question to talk about is just replacing AIn rail Howard. We know you lost her to grad transfer. That's a double double the last two years for you. How do you replace that player? Who who fills those shoes? India Jones from Atlanta backed her up last year. She'll move right into that role in we shied fifth year player out of Maryland. Who'd been hurt most of her career, Asia Ellison, Purvis Ellison's daughter. He was number one NBA player when he came out of Louisville back in the day, and then we sanded yuko kid out of Miami, Florida shea Whitsett, but you try to do it by committee. I went back and did a little research for came in two thousand eight elite, my five player average four point six game and a four player averaged rod at six point, seven. So there's different ways to win instead of just building up at the stats. Those positions four and five were replacing twenty eight points and twenty rebounds out of our four five. That's just to players last year. So I've got a little coaching and this girl got score. Most score. Well, good thing. She doesn't mind scorn, and she does it at a quick pace. So it's really a fun flyer to watch for sure. You have a player transfer from Louisville era. Johnson, I recruited are from Duncanville high school. One of the great high school basketball programs in the country. She gives you a presence in sign. What's the plan for her and how has she adjusted to Texas anthems ways? She said out last year and learned a lot playing behind Cala hilson Khalas more of a straight power player. This is a kid that can face the basket coming out of Duncanville. You know, there will coach that's at Henderson aerial Atkins to make a catch, and you just go down. That program, but she's going to a great job. She's one of our captains because of her maturity and she's going go right in that position. And then we've got a couple of other kids back in her up Kennedy last year you were for the people who are watching that don't know this national freshman of the year and one of the reasons why, but you're prolific score the ball. In your hand, you have moves. He's got shaken bake. You've got it. All you got the three and get into the basket this year. What have you added to your game? What can what can we expect to see different than what we saw last year, really. I'm just trying to get better all aspects of my game. You know, defensively trying to become a better defense player. I'm trying to be the go-to player win. We need to stop things like that. As far as offense. I'm trying to elevate way I can, but the biggest thing with me is just trying to make my teammates better and make sure that they're on the same page as me when I'm out there on the court and really lift them up and let them know that we're in this together. So just being a leader from us on argue that you're the most exciting player in college basketball and almost even in both sides and men and women. Because when we watch it last year was nothing short of antacid, especially going into the tournament where you lit it up for those who haven't had a chance to really consume am women's hoops who's who's game. Do you have? I mean, who who do you like the game? But Gary Blair? Is that what you're saying? What something that most people don't know about me is I'm really passionate about the game basketball and I really love it. And that's simply Wilde play. I do it because I love playing. I show emotion as you guys seen in the turn of a little bit emotion there. But as far as playing like anybody, I just like to be true to myself in staying mazal and play. So. Okay. Now, you know, that defense is hard work right? Of course it is, but our handle it we can handle as a team. Okay. Because that is one of the things that coach players done. So well, his whole career is defense. I mean, that's something he's demanded, but it is different and really learning how to stay in a stance and close out and do all this kind of things. And it's something that is an area that you have to improve in. How is that part of your game improved? I mean this summer I got a little time off and I was really spent time in the gym planet gets minute and boys, and I learned how to guard, you know, people who are six, five, and I'm only five nine. So I think that I can take that from off the court and converted to college basketball on just trying to defend the best are. Can and get coach valuable minutes when I'm out there real quick, how how often do somebody come up into Jim? They'd be like, hey, you wanna play and you're like, yeah, no, I'll run with you with your boys for a little bit ever. Do you ever do that and and get them every day. Pretty much everybody wants to play with me. Okay. Against me and try to be me, but ultimately makes me better. So I'm happy and excited for things like that. Gary, you've been, you've coached basketball long time. You've been around this league and and other major leagues in the country. We were talking a little bit earlier about the concept of positional lists basket. How is the game change? But more importantly, how's the game changing now that you see? Well, back when Nell Fortner played the first big clothes, keep it in this, you know, the center, right? Cheryl Miller was the one that I started a six, three play five positions. Okay. And I think everybody is wanted be that type of player since they're Tennessee's head some of those players and obviously Connecticut his head. What we're trying to do is recruit versatility a kid that can play one to three. You're going to see her at the two guard position a lot this year because we brought in a junior college player who's pretty good, very good defensively. And that's gonna put her and Leah Wilson move her slide down to the threesome her at the two I've got firepower to might make up for a lot of the zones that we're going to see. So. Position lists. Basketball is is good for the game. You see it in the NBA the WNBA rat. Now, the skill level is very, very good. It's not how many games or playing during the summer. I think that teaching is better. Now. They still need to do more skill work than drill work, improve that part of the game and prove the basketball IQ when the Accu and I get on my players of lot. They need to be watching more on television. Then watch in some of the stuff I'm watching dancing with stars fire, all of that. They need to be watching a lot of basketball on TV to get better. Quick if it's not basketball, if it's not basketball, you're watching. What are you watching Kennedy. Empire, but I'm really a basketball fan, a big basketball fan, but for sure empire that's my go-to show empire's star coach, Washington empire. You think you'd get him on the way it likes to watch soap operas. I'm trying young and the restless. So what do you do General Hospital today? Worrell turn. Own admit to any of this stop this line of questioning your ruining my opinion of my buddy, Gary. Are you kidding me? He was my hero growing up. With the star? Yes. Have you ever seen Cheryl Burke. You you gotta get up with. Genus. You wait a minute, go out every day and count the cows. You've got to cut the real line with the starter lots dancing with the ever Monday night quick as we go to break new favorite. Can you look in that camera right there and do the jazz hands one more time do dancing with the stars. I got a little bit of the Dougie. I did it once. Got more if I could just get one for this side to the other side. My last day I want to be transferred to go. I'm done with the don't know where we go from there. I'm obey. We'll find bomb. Okay. Me and found Bob and go meet again. That would be a one, two punch. I can't wait till it's going to be there that's going to happen. We'll watch that right after you watch Kennedy. Carter light it up best lock. Okay. Thank you. The jazz hands. I loved it more hands from any Landers coming up next. Mandi baby. You're listening to a Paul finebaum show podcast. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel, so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try, get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor switch to Joel check, OJ dot com. Slash sports. If you don't smoke, Vate, don't start warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Any lenders do those? Those moves Gary taught her? Is that where it is. See your best dance. Lawnmower shopping cart running. Was on soul, train back in the day. That's good. Something new every single day somebody finds her back year, Joe, we're going to be joined by the Auburn Tigers coming up in a little bit, but I want to get your thoughts been a busy day here overall. What have you learned in here? Women's tip off immediately. The first thing you learn is the best thing about it is just the excitement. He say, coaches are not. They're not downtrodden, you know the middle of the season. Yeah, everybody's in a great mood. They're feeling really good about their team. Their kids have it really made any big mistakes or no injuries. It's really been interesting in that regard. I really, I love talking to Don Don Staley today. I thought Don had a lot of great energy really excited about team, and she's the plights. He's the coach who lost Asia Wilson, the three-time player of the year in this in this league. She's great energy and looks forward to the shadow of the pressure is off the expectation when you lose an Asia Wilson goes down or at least you think it. Yeah. For for a minute, but what will happen at South Carolina's they will continue to win. And as soon as they've time five six wins together back to back. You're right back so she better enjoy it while she can. That was impressive. I asked her I said, what we lose in Asia Wilson, what will do to your tendency? 'cause we've already sold ninety five hundred tickets ninety four hundred s I mean South Carolina faithful have come through have that breakthrough moment and they've had it over the last couple of years. All of a sudden put the program on Passo a team that's had that before too is Tennessee. I was really impressed with Holly Warlick's attitude when she came up. You're talking about energy. I felt like that was something maybe I don't know for whatever reason missing maybe in the last year in a half or so. I've felt like she had a different outcome. I think I'll typically and I'm going to go back in time to what nail was talking about a moment ago. What is impressed me today is is normal a tremendous positive energy amongst coaches and their player a good feeling, a good vibe. We're ready to go. We feel good about what we. Can accomplish that has been consistent through each and every team and coach that we've talked to. That makes me feel good. Now, as the season goes on, we'll see how much of that you'll. You'll get your fogy mood a little bit later. But yeah, you're happy about this right now, but honestly, isn't it because I think coaches throughout this team and you said that top seven, everybody's kind of involved in this this things a little bit more wide open than yours pass. Well, I think everybody thinks that their team can be better than it was last year. Even Mississippi State has something to shoot for. They did not want to championship. They did not want to conference tournament, so thank you. Everybody feels like they can be better get on hold. We're going to be taking your phone calls a little bit in the last hour and you can also hit us up on Twitter at Peter burns ESPN eight, five, five, two, four, two, Paul is the number just means Moore's. 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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried pack and patron Torri of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show our four podcast. Well, we are here as we continue the final hour of the program. Let's continue with more calls and. Of. Evelyn is up next in Georgia Evelyn. Thank you. Good afternoon. Hi, I I'm caller. Hi other. How are you? Yeah. How may we help you? Well, I'm over here. Reading my book, and it's reached for the summit by Pat summitt. I'm not going to read settle for me mediocrity by Holly Warrick. And and I think we always took Pat to go out, and and she is the bear Bryant of women's basketball. And if you look at where Alabama was seven eight years after their Bryant's they had kissed them frogs to try to get some princes their first prince that they that they wound up with stallings, but it took a while to get to Nick Sabin. But I think the same pattern needs to be taken with Tennessee. Well, you make a fair point. And I think you have to look at her overall resume, and I'm I'm I'm sensitive to it because anyone who knows Holly Warlick and new coach summit understands where Holly has done and her loyalty to that program. But when you take an objective view, you can't look at well she's had a lot of twenty eight and twenty nine when seasons in in six years one two three four five. This is seventh year she has not been to a final four. She has been to the elite eight three times she the last two years. She's been knocked out in the second round. And quite frankly, one year, she was pretty fortunate to get to the second round based on she she finished the season very strongly because team wasn't wasn't playing very well at all. And this year has been an abject disaster. So far, so I I don't know. I mean, your overall winning percentage. Is seven thirty three which is good by most standards. But it's not goodbye Tennessee standards now. And if you look at the players in recruiting, you still had you just a couple of years ago, you have diamond shield who actually left you have Russell you. Have you have recruited heavily you've gotten your in the top five consistently was recruiting. So it's not personnel. It's it's it's it's unfortunately, it's the coaching and I'm sensitive to the situation. It was a unique situation. It was a unique situation in some ways even with bear Bryant going to Perkins. But well, it was a unique. It wasn't quite the same. But you had the passing and then you had Perkins coming in even though bear had retired. But it was a unique situation. And I think I was sensitive for maybe a year or two, but it's not been a year to seven or eight years. This is this is to clo-, Pat, toughened up butter buttercup, the women's program cannot accept not it least attempting to try to maintain it just for the fan base that they have the that. How long will it be before a Tennessee women's game? Looks like an Alabama linens game with with ten people in the Coliseum. You say that after Alabama drubbed Tennessee by double digits the other day. So my question is this. And you know, I think Thursday nights going to be important because Tennessee will be compared to the defending national champions and the current number one team in the country that that's we're Tennessee is fires to be. And I mean, there's no moral victories. But assuming that game goes like almost everyone is going to predict to me that that's where we're fans get a good dose of reality. Where you know. You realize these aren't fluke losses. He's aren't narrow losses. This program has hit hit the bottom and was six straight losses. I don't wanna hear anyone say well, you can still turn the season around. No. You can't well in that game is a big game. They have the personnel to actually you never know that you they could win. It's it's not personnel. They have the personnel who could who could turn it around. And. That she does. I really do it that could be the game that could maybe changed my opinion. But that's why it's an opportunity, but, but if I, you know, I'm I'm listening on a national program. And this is about the six or seven call we've had today about Tennessee va-, women's basketball. It's getting more attention than the men the men are number one in the country. So there's a real problem there, and I can assure you that Phillip Fulmer is acutely aware of the problem. He may not acknowledge it he's in a very precarious position. But you know, even though John was on here earlier. And I don't know if you heard what he said he seemed to to to indicate the Tennessee doesn't care about having a quality women's program. I disagree. Well, that was what prompted me to call you because I that's not acceptable that would not be acceptable to Pat summitt ninety two to what she she builds and injuries I've railed because it looks I wish. But I promise you if this program doesn't turn around there will be plenty of people calling for change. All right. Well, that's good. Well, thank you very much. Thank you from. Yeah. It'd be people are going what's going on here tonight. Well, this is this is about the third or fourth year. We've heard this on this program where Tennessee women's fans are calling in and going. What's what's going to happen here? Thanks very much for the call. Do. Appreciate it. Meredith is in Birmingham, you're on the air. Hi, Paul Abbott. Cut linked to just ask you about Mississippi State. Okay. Sure. I wanted to know how you think state is gonna do next this coming year in football. And if you think that coach Moorhead can turn this program around and get it going again. Well, I know I know the program I think nine wins last year. But I found I found the overall tenor the season to be moderately disappointing. I thought there were a couple of games it just works were shockingly bad. And maybe because I was there for the Florida game. That would have that would have been the one that that stood out the most. But I think he can turn it around. He's made a few changes scheduled pretty manageable. I mean, you talk about a terrible non conference schedule. Lafayette, southern miss, Kansas state and Abilene Christian. I mean that's pretty laughable where where are the problems on the schedule? Well, you start with Alabama. At a and m those are two extremely tough games. LSU becomes a challenge at Auburn at Tennessee. I I'm trying to think what I would go with in terms of record. I think what what happened this year is manageable. But it, you know, you tell me a Merida's. What what are you looking for what what's good season for for Mississippi State fan? Well, obviously to win every game. I can promise you right now. I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think so either. But I do think I'm hoping that coach Moorhead cantering the probe around. I hope that state can win. I don't know. I I hope that they can win all, but I'm looking probably all but two or three games, and that would be very impressive for the state of. There would be I'm not I'm not sure I have your optimism or or share your optimism. I I'm going to reserve judgment because I just really would like to see a little bit more about the passing of the torch. But I I do think he's capable. I I was I was not impressed with his place election. His play calling last year though. I agree. I do agree. I just wanted to call because everything is always Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Clemson and everything. And I I wanted to give a plug for Mississippi State. I'm a graduate. I lived in Birmingham. But I love my dog. We'll listen I'm a huge fan as well. But thank you for the call. It's a great school and have a lot of good friends there. Thank you very much. Jack is in Tennessee. We spent a lot of time in that state tonight. Good afternoon, Jack. Hey, thank you, Paul. I'm a first time caller. I watch your show all the time. Thank you. Thank you. I just you know, on the last caller a few minutes go talking about Hollywood. And I think it's time for change. Now. I really do we we haven't had this many losses in a row and a long-term. Pat summitt has built his program. And I think I agree with you a hundred. Hundred ten percent about our women's program is just as important as our means. And I'm glad army. They're doing great. But I- women has done great for years. And we owe it to Pat summitt invest the money. Get the best of the best. And I hate to say it, but I think Holly work needs to go. Yeah. I listen, Jack. I watched that game very closely last night and I saw the Alabama game as well. And it's it's the body language that bothers me. It's I mean, I know she's a very good coach. But she's not she's not relate. She's not getting through to those players right now. I agree. A hundred percent now. It's a it's a thank you very much. I mean, it's pretty interesting. I mean, I try to keep up with all the different games. But I mean, I was really studying that last night because I had a feeling if they lost that game. It was going to be a big topic tonight, and has it ever been we will break. More to come to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Glad you are with us here as we wind things down on a Tuesday night Darrow in Greenville, South Carolina. Daryl good afternoon. Hey, paul. How are you doing today? We're doing great. Thank you. Great. Thanks for taking my call a little something to say about John Adams when it comes to go Fulmer. Okay. He always seems to want to go to jab in adding. And it makes me wonder. If he's still welcome on campus. Yeah. For those you miss the interview. He he did make a fairly distinct of crack about Fulmer wanting to be the coach, which I don't I don't believe I think Fulmer is doing what what would he is good at and that's mentoring young people. And in this case, a young coach, Jeremy Pruitt who. Well, I think welcomes. I just think like I've been watching John Adams and listen to him and reading about is articles all the time. You just amazes me every time he can get a stab at him. He he takes advantage of it. Well, I will tell you this. I don't think anyone is going to lay a glove or or anything else on Phillip Fulmer right now, I think he is he is got Teflon over him. Because I genuinely believed that he came in and saved this program from total disaster after John Currie after the administration literally went up in smoke. He brought in a really good football coach. And I'm telling you the law Jeremy Pruitt, you can always judge someone by where they used to be. And I I can tell you that in at the university of Alabama. I know Tennessee fans get sick of hearing about that. But inside that athletic department there he is as respected as any coach who has left and if Nick Saban. Tonight. Just for the sake of argument. I think Jeremy Pruitt would be the first call they make wouldn't not about. I wouldn't doubt that one bit. But I want to go with that. And. John Adams who just amazing? Well, how he take steps? And I listen I as someone who has thrown a few shots in my time. I we heard it pretty loudly here. Thank you very much. Rick is is in Southern Cal. Hello, rick. Thank you might call center on the subject of Pat, summitt, Tennessee. I got a book story about pets. I'm but just real quick to put a cap on the final court in the bottle if you will the Alabama football season that game was won by the best player on the on the Bill that night dislike. Shawn Watson was two years prior to that travel arch was best player on the field dates voided, Alabama weakness, which was their strength the passing game against Alabama secondary, which was agreed fire and the coaching carousel there in Alabama, which was actually more sporadic than the the Mexican cartels turnovers this concern. So I mean, all that, you know, I mean anybody. To sit here and say that the dynasties over to towards the torches passed. I thanks ludicrous. Obviously to have the best player. But you know, it's a lie. There's a lot of lot of planning before next season. I I'm won't you know, pass any judgement yet as what's going to happen. But a pad some story real quick in nineteen. I think it was eighty eight eight or nine hours traveling in the Birmingham buddy of mine said man, we ought to go down, Allah bama's playing Tennessee. I wanna go check out a women's game. I couldn't have been more discouraged about going. But I went and the one thing that I will compare it to I've never seen the the absolute precision done by Tennessee. And Pat summitt on that on that court. I have watched several men's game. And I'm gonna compared to the New England Patriots the way she operated that bench in the way. They just dissect it our bama's basketball team, which was pretty damn good at the time. I think they were ranked like eleven or twelve and they just dismantled that team. And and the way she coaches and the way when she's walking off the corridor. More way, she did walk off the court was just I to me at that point. I started following the Tennessee basketball program, and I think anybody that's ever watch Tennessee lied. If you've had the the pleasure doing that your entire mindset would change when it comes to women's Babs the ball. Somebody's coaches are absolutely phenomenal. But Pat summitt to me was every bit as big of an icon as bear Brian ever was. I mean, I know I'm gonna upset a lot of people maybe yourself saying that, but I'm telling you right now, she was right there with the bear. When it came to coaching in the SEC, and I'll never forget that night. I've never seen it. In fact, I've I've never seen men's basketball coach the way that that that woman coach that team that was extremely and then then her graciousness walking up what she thought to every toge on Alabama shook hands with a lot of the fans walking off the. Board of something. I just wanted to share that. I'll never forget. Thank protect the story. Thank you very much. Rick really do appreciate that. Let us continue at eight five five to four to seven to eight five. And Mark is in Florida. Mark, welcome. Oh, hey ball. I hear you. Good to hear you. Thank you so much. You know what? Pitching on the championship game. Just for a minute. You know, I wanna languages you mentioned about you know, you were talking about a basketball point. But. It's so between the plays. You could just see Clemson had a purpose behind every step. And it seemed like they were quicker to their second third steps before Alabama was looking around. You know what I mean? I just see like the offense is lines. Clemson would be, you know, set and getting ready, and it just seemed like they they had they had that fire. You know, and you know. You know, sometimes market to it happens that way, I haven't seen it too many times like that. But it was extraordinarily to watch. And I do appreciate your call, squirrel. You're on the air. Really? Appreciate you taking my call today. And I'm I'm really I'm really doing all this Tennessee talk the best. But. When I think about Tennessee basketball. And I think it was doing your time. You're actually for some reason I wish it wasn't true. For some reason when I think of Tennessee basketball, I think of Benard keying getting pulled over in the middle of the night. Dr Ray Mears Cadillac and didn't have stolen TV in the back. Let me say this. I I was covering that team at the time. And I can't remember the specifics of what was in the back. But yeah, so what have you next time? I see you. I will I'll tell you my version of that story. I will let say it on the real. Rule flags and believe it or not those are you know, I was like seventeen eighteen years old. I was junior in high school, actually when it happened and me, and my buddies you remember drinking age eighteen and I'm ashamed to say, we will slip over to Cumberland avenue. For some reason whenever I go into your public over there now is buying your drinks. If you remember you say many fans for so young, of course, Sam I went in there. But are keen was in there. And I got to, you know, just him by sitting up against the bar with you know, what I'm saying. I was naturally high school kid, and he got he got a kick out of that. But it was no big deal. Even though he was a superstar. It was a different time back, then you know, I used to use to sit with him on the team plane when we traveled in got to know him quite well extrordinary. I mean, I know we're talking forty years ago. But one of the great they I think they didn't they do a thirty for thirty in burning wants. Yes. Yes. They did. They encourage young people to go watch that these guys were unbelievable especially Bernard. Third player on the Tennessee taint team winter saying Jackson less than job. Mike jackson. Yes. Yeah. He was really good to to the point guard is Johnny Darden. Yeah. And he was always used to for some reason while I was doing it. I don't know. But another. What are you gonna have rich Rodriguez? This is kind of a sports take. I don't wanna do. Mock y'all chair. They when are you gonna have rich Rodriguez on? That's a great question. Yeah. We we had coach Luke on long ago. But rich, I was thinking about giving rich zone segment is he dug in you? I don't think I'm not sure we've we've made the request yet. Okay. Well, I'm gonna have a sports take. He's he's our recruiting. Now, I presume. Yeah. I look forward to that day. And then Thirdly, and Lastly, I really appreciate allow these older callers been calling in lately. But gentleman you talked to yesterday how but the ninety two year old war two bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, he was special. And you know, we we could let him talk for an hour. That's it for the show today. We are back live tomorrow as always taking your phone calls. Hope you have a great night. Thank you. For listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network. Beginning at three eastern.

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Hour 2: 1/18/19

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Hour 2: 1/18/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? The pride passion, then patron Torri of college football lives here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our to podcast. Second half a second hour of the show. Second half a little bit off the second hour of the show is underway. And we appreciate you for dropping by on this Friday afternoon. And a lot of conversation about coaching changes. This will eventually come down. But not yet especially at Alabama new name in the mix today. But he is a familiar name. He is Kyle flood. Remember, he used to be the head coach at Rutgers the program practically blew up under his tutelage getting slammed and he was given a show caused by the NC double A because of the academic irregularities. And certainly that kept him out of college coaching. He went to Atlanta where he worked under Sarkissian for the last two years at staff didn't farewell Sark was sent packing and Kyle flood the show caused now gone has arrived at Alabama as the offensive line. Coach formerly the head coach at Rutgers program. Really hasn't been the same sense. But it he is now in Alabama trying to help Nick Sabin and rehabilitate his own career. More changes have been speculated. We'll get to them a little bit later on your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five up now as we get right back to the calls and more guests will join us shortly Gerald is up next in South Carolina. Hello, gerald. Deal that this is Darryl. Darrelle there. Yes, I got to put things in perspective. What I didn't see on the field last month tonight. Then see a cure for cancer found and I didn't see world peace. You know, it was all game. It was over Clemson one. Then. And enjoy the wind. But now that win you can't eat it. You can't wear. You can't drive it. It's like vapor. It's gone. Do it do it again next year and Alabama will win again. Absolutely again, Clemson lose again. And also. Do you participate in sports? You get beat one day. All I have to say now, I gotta go change. A poopie diaper from granted Thomas is up next in Mississippi men for so glad we got him Darrell Gerald who cares? You're on the air Thomas next. Shit. Are you there Thomas? Oh, yes. Yes. Great. Mad is up next in San Antonio. Matt welcome to the program. It was a full you've been Lutheran for doing great Matt car cocky out Dane in basketball game with Auburn men and him. Right. It wasn't a good look for on. What's that? Now. Looking at their in game to watch fall gave up in more. Remember, auburn's really good. But an yet they are good on-scene admit that as an infant that they aren't really get king. But I have anything bad game. Like that at all time Paul thanks happening. If it's true, you know, it's going to talk to you, let go conveniently Kimball issue. You know, what about team this year? Did you not really good season, Paul? I mean, if you have to schedule I think, and I really did Stephen like recruiting class, so far I think this year they're going to challenge teams in the west never leave. Good record. And only has like three questions for you today, my friend. Okay. The first question is you do you think we can be Nick saving cow field. This year. Right now, I wouldn't say so, but I think it's going to be a really good game. I'll put it that way. I think that's one of the games. Alabama has to be careful about a game. I second question, you know, and you're saving Senator freedom against Georgia right now. Right. He has. Yes. Why did he that? He always like go in Texas recruit against him. We'll Fisher as she that playing out the next couple years. Listen, I I think that Nick Sabin and JIMBO probably compete for fewer players than Nick and Kirby because of the geographical region. But but I do think they'll go head to head on a number of players because they're because am is now in elite recruiting machine under. Jimbo Barbara is up in Tennessee, and you are on the air. Hello, barbara. Hi, how're you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. I am just really upset about Holly Warlick's. She needs to go. And you know, it we're Barbara are you going to allow her to try to right this ship? Or do you want her out now? Well, I don't have to does. She she needs to get out. Now liston before you go one thing I want to say about and I knew this because I'm I'm from there. But there is there's nothing like, Tennessee, women's basketball fans. So I care about their program. And and we've we've gone through this a couple of times over the last couple of years but four game losing streak and losing by Twenty-one. Dalla Bama, we'll get people really upset. On. Now, poverty goes a fifth straight loss. Alabama too. That's that's unusual and. Hey, she'd been football co she were already being shown, and you know, it I would agree with you on that. Now, she's been on the bench with Pat summitt. And no way. Here's our problem though. I mean, you got a let's say Arkansas coming up, and then was it Monday Wednesday twenty four th is that Monday if play Notre Dame and that game nocco deal. Geel? Notre is that in is that a Knoxville offense. So yes, I Notre Dame is one of the top teams in the country. They're sending national champs. So that that's going to really be a critical moment. I think for her to try to to right this ship. And if she can't do it there. Arkansas is good. Notre Dame is great. And then LSU couple of easier games after that. But but this is a this is a real critical situation for her. And I listen, I know you or your I you want her to succeed. And I think everyone who's called in being critical once or just exceed the problem is you if you Tennessee is not used to being thirteenth in the SEC. After I retired from tasting wave route three hundred and sixty something miles one way to not we had season tickets that in back in one night. And you tell me that I'm not too. You know, I've got many friends who who until recently were probably bigger bigger women's fans, and then the men's teams come on. But. This is a critical situation. I mean, I'm not I'm not sure coating anything here, regardless of my personal feelings. I if she can't turn this around pretty quickly. It will get out of hand. Now lately tell you your day can to me, and you have this way these the hallways over the town. Thank you. And it's been a pleasure to talk to you, Barbara. Thank you. Bye. There are more people calling up about the Tennessee women's program today than anything else, which I think is Indyk indicative of the passion that that program has and the high level of concern that currently exists Joe is an Oklahoma. Joe you are on the air. Go right ahead. Here's Powell wanted to say a word or two about the Tennessee lady ball program out in about three years ago and talk to you we talked and and I was a little bit concerned at that time and the fellow that called in earlier that said it was painful to watch I have to agree with him. It's just I tried to watch Kentucky and Tennessee last week and. Louisville in Notre Dame was playing it. I just had to switch games. Go play them. Holly Warlick is I'm sure as a as a real fine person. She has and there's no question about her Bill ability to play basketball that year nine eighty four years old tall, and you and I both know that great basketball players and great football players, do not necessarily make great coaches. And I just I have to agree with the people that I think, you know, it's just time to take a look is is all that site. One other comment, I'd like to make this big daddy that called in the other day and cars, you fraud and a liar to me that didn't say much about you, Paul it. It said a whole lot about him and there, and I appreciate the fact that you have to put up with. Well, listen, I don't I really. We appreciate you. And so many other saying that, but this is this comes with the job. And i'm. I want people to express their opinion. They don't like me. That's fine. They're welcome to say it and spit it out. Yeah. I understand plus as long as they listen, I'm pretty happy. I understand that you understand. It comes with the job. And just but it's. I'll have to make the same comment. I made about trying to watch that lady Volvos and Kentucky game. Is that? Listen to him was painful to listen, I understand. Well, listen, you be well and hope talk to you again soon. Joe? Thank you. Thank you hope. Holly Warlick is not watching today. We will take a break. We'll come back in continue this conversation. A couple of guests are heading our way shortly including Seth Emerson from the athletic. He is on deck to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Seth Emerson joining us from the athletic. He's covered Georgia in his former life. Seth still covers towards in this present life. Good that good to have you on the air. Seth we had one of our friends here. The other day that wasn't overly high on the dog's next year. That is contrary to what I hear. And what about you what kind of team are we expecting from Kirby smart next year. Yeah. That was old friend Brandon Marceau he caught his stir. I know you know, I I could see where he's coming from Georgia's having a replaced both coordinators not as many coaches as ala Bama, but still and they go nowhere players. Yeah. And they lost four players early to the NFL draft still not as many as Alabama. So wonder. This is going. Yeah. But their they lost four guys offense that was very good to begin with. And then they promoted from within for offense coordinator, which means whether the continuity should be pretty good. So they were dealing from an area of strength from where they lost the defense. Did not look good in the sugarbowl. But it was without the Andre Baker and d Andre Walker and the nose tackle, Jordan. Davis freshman, he'll be back Walker and Baker won't so long short of it is Paul. Yeah. I mean, I I still think this is a team that has concerns and questions going into the year. They're they're probably still a step behind clips, Clemson and Alabama and maybe even somebody else, but they they get their toughest games, probably at home, Texas, A and M and Notre Dame. We'll see how Florida is. We'll see how Auburn is. They have to go there. So I think it's probably a lot like this past year. In terms of what the expectations should be that. They should be the SEC favorite. They should be preseason top five maybe number three. But whether they're the best in the country. You know, you haven't shown enough yet. Seth this program has done really well under curvy smart. But is there any sense that? That that window was open to to get Alabama last year. I have friends in coaching you probably do as well who who believed that the game plan that Kirby and his staff put on the board. This year was good enough easily. Good enough to beat Alabama. They had shot with a field goal to go up by seventeen. We'll leave Alabama teeth gnashing for for later. But I mean is there is there any sense that a lot of really big opportunities have gone by not that they aren't still there in front of them. But I'm I'm really curious about that. The answer is yes. To both questions. Yes. They missed opportunities in both those games. Yes. They're going to get other opportunities and the way Georgia is recruiting despite the way, Alabama's also recruiting. You've gotta figure Georgia's still going to get that shot that this. I think this time last year Paul you, and I were probably talking, and there was this talk about the pain of losing the national championship that way second twenty six. And and I think I remember telling you that while it's painful and people didn't like to talk about it. It wasn't this kind of my God, we lost our one shot at it. There was this sense of there's going to be more shots. And there were there was another one this past year, but they couldn't deliver. Then I think there's still that same sense. But there's still there's maybe now a little bit more of a knowing sense of. Yeah. We'll probably get more shots. But we gotta gotta make sure we do because the historical parallels. Probably been pointed out on the show before I pointed this out other people's kind of caught onto historical parallels between Kirby smarts, I three years and Mark Ricks. I three years are Erie. Like the records are almost the same. The the results as in SEC championship champions and second year SEC east champions third year are the same. And I was around going into two thousand four Mark Ricks. Yeah, I was covering the team then. And there was that sense of you know, here come the championships we've missed out, but they're coming. And obviously, we know they got close, but they never did get it. So there are going to be people around here who remember that and say it really looks set up, but nothing is guaranteed. On the other hand, I wanted to get the the Georgia take of Alabama, and you've you've had a line or two already about the turmoil. The the beatdown. Some people believe that Nick Sabin may have missed this year because he was trying to hang with Kirby smart last year by when he lost in recruiting. He he blew up some of the staff brought in a bunch of young gunslingers, and it didn't help at least it helped in recruiting. It didn't help on the field. What's the view over there of what is currently going on in Tuscaloosa? Well, not to bring it back right away to Georgia. But I I think you hit on something that I noticed when Kirby put his first staff together here just heavy on recruiters that above all he wanted recruiters. And you've got that sense with this past year, Alabama that yeah. Maybe he was kind of you know, doing that too. In Tosh, loophole known as this great recruiter. The apparently they didn't feel great about his Xs and os or coordinating. So he's kind of sent off to the NFL to to get a little more reeducation on that so to speak, but it's kind of gone as good as. The recruiting has been for Kirby smart, they've tended. I think to develop and coach pretty well to. I it's interesting to watch what's going on in Alabama. I I I I wonder how much attrition they can keep having an a coaching staff and and keep it up. But I am persuaded Bruce Feldman in the athletes, and that story that a lot of attention. Well, deservedly yesterday on Danny knows finished with the thought that you talked to coaches, and they say anybody who has any idea that Alabama was gonna slip just because they keep losing all these assistance every year is in for a rude awakening because Nick Sabin still there and Nick Sabin hasn't still bet culture, and that structure that just allows for continuity. Plus he has Scott Cochran there to help that. And you know, what there's a parallel with Kirby there too. He's established a culture and a structure he's had some turnover. But it hasn't happened with a strength and conditioning staff yet either which everyone knows so important. So a lot of similarities, which is reason then I think a lot of people would Bank on George now Obama being right back in Atlanta, next, December competing for a chance to be in the playoff me. I I know what you just said. And sometimes people don't say very much out loud. But within that war room in Athens was there relief or concern that Alabama looked so bad? Meaning meaning what I'm not sure. But being I mean, these are the the two big guns right now in the SEC and everything that happens in Tuscaloosa is watched closely in Athens and likewise in Tuscaloosa toward Athens. Yeah. I I don't know that they I do have a sense that if if Kirby could raid, the best coaches he could off of Nick staff that he would and Nick would probably like to do the same things. Or is there? Anyone left to raid? Yeah. Well, there you go who else. But I I think they kind of. Kirby being twenty five years younger than Nick probably looks over there. And just says I mean, not not saying he wants to outlast, you know, that he's not going to win a championship until it's gone. But there is still this sense. I mean, I think the elephant in the room is how many more years is Nick saving gonna coach. Whereas Kirby smart is sitting here and everyone's expecting him to be here for another twenty five years again. Life doesn't always work out that way, we thought that with Margaret to again was about the same exact age as curry was when each was hired as coach. But I just do think that they are competing with Alabama. I'm not sure how much they look at the coaching part of it. They look at the recruiting part of it. But they also look at it that they're competing with Alabama. Well off the field now when they're catching up when it comes to administrative financial commitment to thing. They finally got that indoor facility years ago. They're building more things in there. They're allowing Kirby, retain and compete to retain. Coaches like they they didn't lose Jim Chaney to Tennessee over money. They lost it over. Jim Chaney was ready to go and Georgia was ready to promote James Cohan place. I I think that part of it Kirby looks at it and says we can be with Alabama on these things we just need to win it on you. Well done as always Seth Emerson from the athletic. Seth preach coming by. We'll we'll talk very soon anytime very insightful conversation there about the dogs. I'm much has changed may have lost a game where two or three, but they're still Kirby smarts team. And they are. Wanna be terror for many we are up against a break. More. Your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five co book little bit later on on some of the coaching changes in the SEC. We're coming right back. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. And we are back. Glad everyone is here on a Friday afternoon. What a show it's been so far and about to get better. Jim is next. You know, even though it wasn't in my original contract with you. When we started, you know, before the ESPN. Whatever it is. But here's my point though. You know, I I was kind of this is the thing that that can be very competitive about your show, and you you you're getting better and have it used to be absolutely own spot. Oh, target doing this. And that is Colin bad callers immediately out of the way like that food said Alabama wasn't playing for saving that kinda crappy. Don't even need to be heard is so stupid. But anyway, and then but on the other hand you good at letting somebody like miss, Barbara. I love that lady. She's charming southern lady from Tennessee. And I mean that kind of call is good for the show. I'm telling you, why me, and my mom and dad, you know, I had a mom and dad, very Scypion. That's where I come on my pants, and I just thank you ought to. That was a good call. I was great call them. Here's the problem. If you jump on a cholera meal, you you're not really sure what they're going to say. I know Paul would give you a lot of them. Go too far the bad ones. I know that for a fact you used to be right on talking with that you you'd see it comes in when he would just about do you say gone. Well, you know, the answer to that Jim is I've been ESPN ESPN now on stand all that you told him have ruined everything here. You know on Nove drill hail. I know I'm the one that was in the room where you many days when we do show prep, and it was show. Yeah. Well, Jim you you should have convinced me harder to leave. We we could have avoided all this. Well, let's get to the back to you know, they'll say though, my day. I've never smart sapient daddy. And he said son he was riding, and I never did this that much. He said son, you catch more flies with Honey than you do with vinegar. Your daddy. Was smart. He was smart Paul smarter than me. And so with my mom, but anyway, I just wanted to say I love kid a charming lady. But she made a lot of sense and she's one of the oh fashioned ladies at at a leper. I helped me with this gym. I mean, we have a bunch of people to call in the show a lot is. I mean, would you if you were still in the room with us before the show like he used to be back in the day? Who should I just check off the list and don't let donating let on. Well, I mean, I there's no names. Should I can come up? You know, it's not a name that I wouldn't even I wouldn't even bring up now. It's the people that like today some of just just the whole point is is not who they are what they say. So just be more be more sapient. The OPA all that was all worked. This is about you used to be alert. You know, it happens to me you Jim you start kind of slipping away here. Well, follow you. You know? I hope you're not give it that age where you're getting a little, you know. I I have to take Napster in the show. Now, Jim Barbara. Barbara might a good point. She said you have a sweet call on the sweet, boys. And sometimes you do you have a great radio voice. I've told you that before you tell me that I used to have a great radio where you had the best. Jim we've ever had on his call now, which is even giving that guy, but I've thought about somebody that that that that has a point versus just sings associate. But without my voice is, but I you have a good voice. No question about that. That's probably what got you about ninety percent of where you are. Now, you divorce you raise you got the best radio voices salary. Rush limbaugh. Yeah. Well, he's the best. I think he actually got a bit of voice at him, you know, through as far as just a voice. Bless good voice. Well, I'm glad to hear that. I'd never really liked. I've I've never really liked my voice. But that's you know. Guy competitive radio, boys. There's no question about that. That's one thing that attracted me to keep calling. And when I got mad at you. But when I first started you have a great radio. What she really did. You know, not lying. I don't allow stuff like you know, what I'm not. I'm not exaggerating. But anyway, I love the call. Let's just one more thing. I think I'll bring up Bill. What's he doing? The point is the guy that I like that guy that was talking about sportsmanship. He kind of stumbled a little bit. But you know, it's a nerve racking thing to do this all, you know, I'm I know that even though I can be good at it. But I also stumbled sometimes when I'm not on key on Q, and he was stunned that he had a great point a great call about sportsmanship used to be. I grew up playing when I played ball out. You better believe I respect anybody could beat us because we could play Paul. And so, you know, you had these respect him. But you always wanted to go say, hey, man, great game and getting give him kudos for what they deserve. And most great forts skorts Mahan. Great giants sports figures will do that. And do still do it. So that that got you need. To go to what about a sportsman car of the year sports. Like, you know, that's a great idea. It really is. It really is. Hi, I'm getting another call. Interrupt. Jim go gate, grab you call. He always hate when you're hosting a program and a caller gets another call and has to leave the program. I bet that doesn't happen with our next guest Casey in New Jersey. Casey, welcome back to the show. Yeah. Paul how you doing? It's been a great. It was a great football season listening to you guys everyday watching the show and tomorrow, I'm in the car for seventeen hours drive in Florida. So I'll be on the podcast for seventy hours. That's a trip. Yeah. I got they by the way, you're getting you're getting out of the you getting out of the east coast just in time. Yeah. I got I was gonna leave Sunday. But I think I'll leave tomorrow it added there that's pretty bad and just do it right through. But but Auburn we're paying gusts seven million dollars a year. Yeah. Hi, he's underachieve tile. I would say I think we could all agree. I think that would be a couple of years. How come you can't recruit a quarterback though? You know, we well hold on. I think he did. I think he has a good quarterback coming in bone-in. Knicks knicks. Yeah. Well, everybody says that but whatever somebody transfers the rumors are out there, you know, Kelly. Brian. We've got the guy from we tried to get hurts. We tried to get the guy that came out of. Clemson Kelly Bryant, nobody came. I mean, it's like, okay, we got Knicks. But why are we going chasing all of these other, quote, actually, it's the way it goes. I mean, Oklahoma's got the top quarterback coming in. But they went after Jalen it's all about having more than one and the problem with Bo Knicks. He he's never played before. And right now Auburn is going to count on him more than likely to be the starter without a single down of experience. Yeah. What do you think? Eight nine wins Paul to keep his job. Or you think ten wins keeps his job? I think probably nine and above is is is going to be necessary. But we were chatting about it earlier. Casey. That schedule scary brutal. Yeah. Yeah. One thing about offer Nate to schedule tough every year Paul especially the opening game. Yeah. That's that's that's a tough game. Never had a cupcake. But anyway, love your show, and I'm glad everybody's doing. Well, John registrations. More quit his baby. And till we. Fun. Listen, I'll I'll be. On the road. Thanks a lot Logan in Colorado. You're on the air. Hi, how are you doing today? Hey, logan. So I I'm in Oklahoma fan. I have been since I was real young. And I remember twenty thirteen Oklahoma and Alabama played in the sugarbowl, right and out with you. You can argue that Alabama wasn't motivated. That's not the point Oklahoma won that game and going into the playoffs era. I always thought there'd be more parody in college football. But when you look at it, it looks like it's just ala Bama and Clinton right now, I would argue that Oklahoma has been top five program in that time. But it doesn't seem like they're really closing that gap. Why why do you think that they really the play out there? You've had Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma. And I mean that has been the playoffs the majority of the time. I mean, there've been a couple of fly fly-bys, but not very often. Yeah. So so what what is college football? Would you would you think that they have a parody issue right now? No. I don't think I think parody. I mean, it's hard to use that word when we're when we're talking about these one off games. So I mean, Oklahoma was is not like Oklahoma wasn't competitive last year with Georgia the game went into overtime. So I mean, I think Oklahoma is just because of because of the defense in the big twelve and the fact that Oklahoma had a historically bad defense this year for for contender. It it creates issues. I just think Clemson in Alabama had just separated themselves a little bit. And then you I mean, I think Ohio State would be the next team with Oklahoma right behind them. Yes. You would argue that in the playoff here Oakland has been number four in your opinion. Well, yeah. Because Okla because you have to give the edge debt to Ohio State. They've had two terrible outings lately, but they did win. They did win the championship for years. Yeah. That's sure they won. They won the very first one. Yeah. But so what what is called football have to do to close that gap. Because I think that Sweeney I think he joined that ROY bus and now it's Ella. Bama. I mean, because this is a you you this is a conference dominated sport. I I don't know if there's really anything can be done. I mean, I think as long as we stay at four I think you're going to continue to see the majority of the same schools, and he listen, Alabama. Clemson, I think Ohio State Oklahoma. And then who's next probably Georgia Alabama has to get past Georgia every year. Ohio State really doesn't have to get past anyone, but their own shadow in Oklahoma has to get really past no-one clemson's path to the college football playoff is pretty simple. We are up against the break. We appreciate your calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We are coming right back to listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. Let's grab some more calls here on a Friday afternoon. Greg is in Athens, Alabama, you're on the air. Greg. Hey, Paul, thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Do. You remember Admiral Hyman Rick over? Sure. Yeah. He was the father of the nuclear navy and one of the most powerful military man in the history of our military and so much so that he could address congressmen and senators with impunity and often did so. He also chose every single officer while he was alive that served onboard submarines and one of the things that he did he would bring them in and have them wait for an indeterminate amount of time. And they would sit in a chair that was uneven. He would have the front ends of the chair cut six inches lower. So they were always facing forward in an uncomfortable position. And the reason why did that was he wanted them to be able to he didn't wanna hear candy answers. He wanted them to think on the spot and think outside of the box when they were responding to what he was asking. Because the interview would only ask we'll ask for three or four minutes, and then he would make his decision based on that. And the reason why bring that up is that like him and like the military, you know, the military isn't for everyone and some people will get in there, and they'll stay in for one of this when you get out and some can do it for life. And I think Nick Sabin is the same way. He's lost a lot of turnover. And of course, you know, the conversation has been you know, how's this going to affect him? And I don't know getting ultimately, we won't know until the the season pans out in the games are played now. It's a good time. I think I'm right about this. I remember when Jimmy Carter became president. He he I think he went to the naval academy. And he talked about his first interview with Admiral recover in in the Admiral asked him, Mr. Carter, have you always done your best and Carter said, no. And he simply responded why not. And that exactly the name of Jimmy Carter's book, why not the best, and I've never forgotten that is as long as I've lived even though it's been what forty three years since Carter was elected forty two years since Carter was like the president. But it's a it's a great admonition to people. There's no excuse for not doing your best. You're right. And I think that, you know, great people on that. And that stage. Like that or similar or or share similar traits? And I think you know, Nick Sabin is wired that way and in. It's not something that translates to everybody then. So it's very difficult it. Yeah. So when you go to work for him, and you're not used to that. And you don't adapt to it. Then it's gonna rub you the wrong way. No. I never forget Barbara Dooley. Told me the story wants when Derek worked for saving. And that he had them working. I think either on Christmas day or Christmas Eve, and she she was she invents we're friends with Terry and Nick Sabin, and she went over to the house and and started like yelling at him. And he just started laughing said, Barbara he said, you're not working for me. Your son is enough shut up, and let's get on with whatever we were talking about. Because I mean, he didn't matter. That's that's the Mark Nick Sabin. It doesn't matter who you are. He's only interested in the bottom line. Now. I it can't affect them a little bit. It's not a family like like the Daboh. Situation. But it has worked quite efficiently in spite of all the turnover. You're right. And I think if recruits didn't continue to come in flocks Nick Sabin, then that family dichotomy might be more. What what would they knew in Greg in you understand history? Very well. I mean, people are always looking at greatness and trying to pick holes in it. And and listen, you you have a. You have a twenty eight point loss that we've never seen before. So you have that coupled with ten days of turmoil. This staff will be announced in in some saving was never was not going to do it piece by piece at some point this weekend. Maybe or next week. You'll have an entire announcement. And there will be over and then on national signing day in two and a half weeks. They've been we'll be number one. You're correct. So I just thought it was a a good analogy to look at those two individuals because a similar, and it just shows that there are many pathways to success, and and just because you don't fit in one path doesn't mean you're not going to succeed in another point. Really, really? Appreciate you sharing that yet. So I just wanted to get that out there, and and, you know, Bama fans need to to take a breather, and or BC powder, whatever. And just relax because he knows what he's doing. I mean, he's the most successful coach in history. And you know, the Mark of of a true champion is being able to face versus and overcoming it? So. We have not seen him in this position. Very very often. I think that's why it's so intriguing. Great. Thank you for the call. Another couple of hours to go on a Friday afternoon.

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"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card. Earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent on grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases. What's in your wallet? Cried passion and patterns re of college football leaves here. He's the Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast there. Wake as a ride the end of March. Upon us. But the man is convenience as we say Hello to you on what you'd be pretty crazy Monday. Glad you're here. I hope you had a good weekend. And if you're an SEC fan you did for as teams move on this week sixteen. Including tennessee. He was down twenty five. But they are in the Sweet Sixteen and fortunate to be there. Avoiding one of the maybe the biggest meltdown in NCAA basketball history. Well, North Carolina and Auburn to James you don't often think about. You're talking about the blue bloods, or the sport with a meet this weekend. In the Sweet Sixteen ROY Williams versus Bruce furrow. As you see teams versus number one teams. They done it before. Going back to the eighties. Remember, georgia. I don't Mississippi State barely Florida getting warmer Duke seems to be a popular team to take down. And of course, Kentucky did it. With Ohio State Kentucky thing down number. One. Doesn't seem like a big upset. Michigan state LSU that a match up. We will see. LSU survives with an amazing finish Tony Benford versus Tom Izzo. Not a match up. I expected to see in the tournament. Interim coach versus hall of Famer. Can Kentucky win without PJ. Well, they've done. It twice has not been easy, especially against Wofford took a dismal shooting day by Wofford's ace three pointer to survive. And someone who didn't survive Avery Johnson. Pick up your check on the way out of the building. You are done it Alabama after four average years now apparently Alabama wants better than average. But who will they get? That is the question. We're not about average ear. We're about excellence, and we want the best caller because from now on if we if you don't make a good call. We're okay. Can you the tournament? Sean farmers have make a good colleague play for UCLA. Now. He's one of the ace's of ESPN, Dan, dockage, nobody better than him. Call tucker. And Bruce Pearl the Auburn head coach will join us. So what about it? Let's get some calls in here. I mean, let's get some really we had some calls Friday that we had to have a series. We were here all night going through the John Hayes report, not the mole report, the Hayes report, he did a dossier on every caller that we had Friday and some of you are not making the grade. So the new rules you get bounced out you gotta you gotta you gotta have to have a play game on another show before you get back here. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five eight five two four to seven to eight five. We're here until they tell us to go home, which the beep says will be in exactly four hours. So looking forward to that. Glad you're with us a crazy weekend and even crazier week who who had four SEC teams going to the Sweet Sixteen you did you did you had more. He's on Mississippi State would be liberty. Yeah. Most people did to let's grab Mario. Who's in Memphis basketball talent about it? Mario. We're not basketball if we're not in a time. So there's another town you you just got a new coach give a chance to go out and bring in the best recruiting class in America. Yeah. Well, you hopefully, they do some next year. That's all we can do is look forward to that. You wanted to say was it you wanted. You parrot me, no threat notes. We're balancing CF. I said, you got something to say or we're going to send you home and cry with the team on I try to keep my colleague issues puff. With NS you with Lawrence as far as the head coach pretty miserable. Here time coaches is putting my apostle right? Like, they're not too. Sure, they're gonna hire person or or let them go. Right. Well, listen, I mean, they have an extraordinary circumstance there with with Tony Benford, and he took over when we'll Wade got nabbed a couple of weeks ago in this FBI probe to Benford credit. He's done a really good job. A lot of people including myself wondered you tell us you could move along with an interim coach who had not really been successful Dade coach. But team when it really mattered Saturday against Maryland came up with the player of the year. So I give them a lot of credit, and he's a couple ends away from maybe being the permanent coach LSU. Let's grab some more calls and Dennis is up next in Kentucky. How are you? Dennis. Oh, pretty good. Thank you for taking call Paula just wanted to thank and congratulate all the players in. SEC that's made it to the final sixteen. I think it's a tribute to what kind of league we've got. But I wanted to make a comment that was made prior to the game at LSU played a weekend. And I think it was Kenny Smith and Bilas were making a comment about the cloud over LSU, and how they shouldn't be playing and all this stuff and what happens ill. They knocked out. I think they I can't remember who they previously beat. But anyway, that was a general gist of it. And I just wanna comment up. I did berry hard to believe that they can make those comments, especially what was going on with with UNC or when when they revest gave for for years. Listen, let's take one thing at a time. They are. I mean, LA LSU right now is not exactly a are shrines, Dave Iowa. So. Oh, I didn't hear either comment, but they made it. But if you're an LSU fan, you better put on your seatbelt. I'm not LSU. You can tell you about coach did. So let's coated. Okay. No, no. Don't get me wrong. I they whatever happens. They are. What are your question here? My commun- is you know. Lastly, what happened avail Louisville? Louisville took action newly they you know, they more or less gave themselves to death penalty over this. They lost a championship, you know, and they did bad things. But I'm just saying maybe that's not the way to handle it because they got they rarely shafted themselves by taking themselves out of it. I think playing happen. Let's let's let's not be crazy here. Okay. Lou. The lucky I still have a basketball program after the mess that Rick Pitino led. I know that and I know that they paid Liz anything they were back in the tournament this year. All they take down a banner, which does not. I'm not a little fan now. Okay. All right. Let's go next to bear who's up on the on the phone. Hello there. Paul. Paul. Oh, good afternoon. I I will say if you're Kentucky and worry about touchy. Don't worry about it LSU. Nobody else. I'm an Overman. I won't say I'm extremely proud of boost. Poland these boys. But the one thing I wanna do Paul finebaum. If I could give a call out to Tammy I'm sorry. She's not here to say that. Yeah. She would've I think Tammy would have really gotten to kick out of this season as she would have feud of enjoyed two things Auburn success in Alabama's failure. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. See I'm the top that I really, Dan or know how to spell the meaning of of the word shot and Friday, but she would she certainly enjoyed it. When Alabama was was was was failing. Hey, great to hear from you. Harry is up next in New Orleans. Good afternoon here. Call seems like a month since I've spoken to you. It has been a month. After those first collars, anyway, all I have a question. Only on the show. Oh new rules where we're we're in the Sweet Sixteen. Now, we no longer allow play in teams to hang around this late in the tournament. All I know. Well, if I don't think they will. But it it's LSU should win this championship. Would would they be the first team to have a win it with a assistant coach to Damon happened in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine the university of Michigan fired Bill Frieder who apparently had accepted another job. And I believe the athletic director was both Schonberger and he fired him Steve Fisher took over and Michigan ended up winning the national championship. Well, I I didn't know that Paul. I appreciate it. I knew if anybody would know you would ball. So I'm looking forward to the rest of the all new, but I I didn't know that phone call. Thank you very much. Now, that's a great call gets to a point. He makes a point. He moves on. He doesn't start deviating equivocating blow the aiding. Can't think of another word that ends in. They were Jack is up next in Virginia. Hello, jack. Hey, paul. Show. Great to have you on. Now. We'll talk later vault by ball after this. Theatrics go. Okay. Sorry. All right. Do you think the administration ready to get rid of Holly? And you know, even even her three players. He's still the cutoff up again. Offer Abby as an as an opinion as I don't know how they can keep her. I really don't. I mean, she did not she failed in every regard. If Tennessee wants to Tennessee, Alexa, key, Holly Warlick as as the women's coach them good for them. But she wouldn't. I would I would I would have fired her today. You know, even two players who lift or still in turn. So and now her. Mail her players question coaching ability. So I think. Let's see. She's a she's done. She's done what she was asked to do. She took over for Pat and the program has progressively gotten worse. So I mean, it's not a very difficult decision. This is not something that that requires deliberation. I'm sure everybody from Tennessee administration wanted to give back in town late last night and enjoy the wind, but I expect her to be gone. I mean, unless Phillip Fulmer and the university they're just decides that they want to continue on with mediocrity and a very valuable program, which lady vols are based on we call. We've got five six calls a day here about the lady valve people really do care and people want change. Thanks for the call. Do appreciate it. We're up against the break. Your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five back with more. We've all taken a chill pill. And we're going to be kinder and gentler and honor of the way President Bush. Band is up next in Tuscaloosa. Hey, Ben, welcome to our program. Hey, paul. How are you? I'm doing great. Um? We're we've been hearing rumors of brick Patino being the next head coach of Alabama festival. Would you like to sites the source of that rumor? Now, we just been hearing that around, but we think Alabama will be the next best team in DC with Patino as their head. Coach can certainly be the sleaziest team in the FCC with Rick Pitino is the coach absolutely pleaded even that these days lease any sleaze sleaze apparently can win win. Would you like to say Rick is the coach? Yes. Good basketball coach. Yeah. He's a great basketball card. Well, I I'd be willing to bet you Ben you don't see him as a coach. Anyway, Sean farnum joining us from ESPN to talk about the weekend, and Sean always great to have you onboard. Thank you very much. Don't wanna make it too simple for you. But let let's start with with the power with the power conferences, the big ten the ACC, and the SEC pretty much taking all the major most of the most of the spots. Not all of them. Does that does that tell you anything about college basketball, or or or did you expect us? Expected this. I mean, this is one of those years where I did intimate. We'd see some upsets in the first round twelve fives. We're gonna come back into play after taking a hiatus last year. Really? I mean, this this is a year where their separation Paul between the best teams, and then just the okay teams and the teams that have played the most consistent throughout the course of the season are still alive in the start of the teams that have been ranked number one and we country during the course of the season are still very much alive in the NCAA tournament. So it it's it's not that we haven't seen this before last time we saw it was two thousand nine and it was very very chalky that tournament in. And I think it's gonna even get more Chaki as as this gets closer and closer to the final four in fact when we did our bracket marathon up in Bristol. They they were going through maybe some of those prop bets from our friends in the desert, and they were asking if the total seeds would would be over eleven and a half of the final four, and I said don't want. I think it'll be on there. And it's looking that way. Obviously, Oregon is the one outlier, but they put in playing some great basketball that they've made a great run. I think they're run probably comes to an end of the next Brown shell let me start with Kentucky, the PGA Washington situation is affecting them. But as as they go up in class, and and do they ever this weekend? What's going to be the net effect of either him playing without much ability or not playing at all? Well, I think look there there there will become a point in this tournament where they would definitely need him. And I was so impressed with PJ down the stretch for his maturity how he played how often they would. They would look for him in in moments of meeting to get a big shot when their offense got a little stagnant. They went to PJ Washington. And it's unfortunate that injury has taken place at this time, my full expectation is playing a team like Houston. Houston story was the score. But they also defend really really well and Corey Davis junior and has been there Goto player all season long. They've guys like Rodney Brooks and DeJean as I like to call them, DeJean algebra, and he's come off the batch of Ben a consistent presence for them. I think Kentucky has enough to get past Houston. My concern would be the following game. I guess a team like Carolina. I think that's where Carolina's been playing the best basketball in the country for better part of last month and a half even with that Duke loss, you go back, and you really watch the the film on that game. They played better than do Duke made a couple of extra place. And I know it's weird to say when they lost the game. But I literally Kobe white a couple of opportunities where he could have made a better decision with the basketball. He doesn't try changes the way that game kind of gets played out. But I I think that's the game. That would hurt them more than anything of not having DJ Washington available. If indeed he's not able to go this weekend crazy story, of course, with with LSU in spite of everything holding on the other day against Maryland. They win at the end. And like everyone else they moved up in class considerably your thoughts on the Tigers. Well, I look at this game. And this is actually a good opponent for LSU because Michigan state has had some problems. We're turnovers over the course of the season that's been there. One achilles heel is that they turn the ball over at a at a high rate at times over the course of the season. They played Bradley Bradley, wasn't that great. And yet they kind of started a little bit. They played a Minnesota team that you knew they were gonna stop into the ground because we've seen that a couple of times already in big ten play. Now, they're going to go now. Michigan state going to have to step up and deal with the length and athleticism of LSU. I think the key stat in all of this is going to be the turnovers, and it's going to be the turnovers by the two guards caches Winston has played at a high enough level where he should be in Los Angeles the week after the final four as they finalist for the John wooden award. Trauma waters has been outstanding. In understanding how his role has shifted and changed. I think at the start of the year when I saw him Paula. I said this a couple of times during broadcasts. He's what my son would call a try hard. Now, I didn't know what that meant. And so I had asked my son before I used us it why why are you saying that kids try hard? What does that mean is what he's trying to everything right daddy's trying too hard to do everything right instead of just being himself like he's trying to be something special. And I thought that's how waters was for the early portion of the season when this new recruiting class that came in with all this talent jumped on board at LSU that he was trying to do too much. And instead he kind of got back to now being who he is and in doing so this team has really taken off. But it's been a great season for them outside of all of the distractions. It all the allegations. And obviously, we'll wait situation is tied directly into that. But for the players in that locker room and for the players that have been on that floor. Dave accomplished them really special things this year. Talking to Sean farnum of courses, we go through some of the other games. Some pretty epic ones on the horizon, Tennessee who knows where we would be today if they had lost that game in over. Time a no rid Barnes would having a very difficult game. But but you know, they they certainly play a hot team as well. And purdue. Here's the thing with Purdue though. And I think this is a great match for Tennessee on e even though Tennessee hasn't played his best basketball yet this tournament. I thought they'd be in the first twenty minutes against Iowa. And then the second twenty minutes. I was like wait what happened at halftime? Where did this team go? I is Purdue is a team that's very reliant upon Carson Edwards. Now, you say that and everybody knows that and yet Villanova couldn't stop them. And he went for forty two. So he can really fill it up. But there's also been games this year where he has struggled, and if you make him shoot a high volume of shots in order to get to his number because he's probably going to get to his number regardless. But if you can force him to have to shoot, a low percentage to get to that number it really benefits, you what would you don't want to have happen is have him be officiant in getting to his number over rotating over helping and then opening up scenes for other guys to get their points. Because they don't have really a secondary score that's been any with any kind of consistency over the course of the season the schedule. Out really well for them inside the big ten minute allow them to get the share of of the big ten title. But I I think Tennessee is a little bit this week. There's some there's enough negative stuff for records of his coaching staff to show those this show the kids on pill, especially in the second half against Iowa. They you can't have an arrogance or cockiness coming into the next week. And it has to be a very much so business like approach for this, Tennessee, volunteer team that has so much experience. And and really just now, you know, these guys as Well Paul but getting to spend as much time as I have our last couple of years with with grant Williams, and Admiral Scofield, I it's hard not to root for them. It's hard not to be like, you know, I really wanna see these guys do. Well. And and I think this is going to be an opportunity for them to advance. I picked up to go to the final four when I did my bracket originally, I don't know if I'm still going to hold like would hold true to that. If I could redo my bracket now, I might give Virginia a slight edge just because of the Incan. Insistent with see we saw against Iowa in particular over the weekend. You've already alluded to the last game. I want to talk to you about speaking of Carolina with with Auburn playing you talking about a half a basketball they played one for the ages the other night what what's that matchup? Look like to you, look if you're repeating every region Auburn, and you you were talking to somebody who would never watch basketball all season long. And you just showed them the first twenty minutes of that Kansas game. Maybe that's the best team in the country. And that's what that's the scary thing about Auburn is that they can be that team. And Jerry Harper doesn't get enough credit at all for what he does. I mean, he has been fantastic for Bruce Pearl, and he is still good in transition of finding gut. The console this game is you're playing a team that likes to run as well. You're playing a team the shot the ball really well as of late you're playing a team that can really rebound the basketball. And that last point is the point that I think is is probably going to give root for all limited amount of sleep between now and gametime. Because I don't see a way that Auburn could rebound with North Carolina North Carolina crashes the glass, so well at the offense event, they love to pummel you down low in the paint. We go back game against Duke with sixty two points in the pain. Luke maye is a match up nightmare for most teams, and he will be for for Auburn as well. And I looked for Kobe white to continue his stellar play. But is in particular in that too man game where you can pick and pop Luke maye or you can post them up and get him down low on the block, and he's just as a fishing down there. And he's a very good passer out of the block. So I I think I think Carolina like I said they've been playing the best basketball for probably the last month and a half. And I am -ticipant that this run for Bruce Pearl as great as it bent in as well as they played, and they were certainly one of the headlining stories coming out of the opening weekend net that they'd probably ends at the hands of the tar heels last question, it only requires four different names or maybe five depending on who's in your final four. Who are they? My final four is originally set before the start of the tenement was good zagged and Duke, Tennessee and Kentucky with Duke playing Kentucky in the national championship game. If I could redo that now, I would make them take us where you can't hear. No one's no one's engine. Okay. Good for you. Then this is what I would say because the PJ Washington situation, I would move North Carolina. And I think Tennessee still has a chance to knock off Virginia in that upper half of the region. So the SEC would end up getting one team in the national championship into that game. And then we'd have a to Carolina rematch for the national championship. That would make the world very happy. I'm sure Sean. Thank you, very real. It would fall off. It's access ball. It would just it would be just silly at that point time. I mean, we if you haven't known I on we would certainly be telling you a lot more about him. We'd find out what his favorite food is what he likes for breakfast. What Spock he puts on? I it'll be riveting television. All this. I thought I thought he would he and taco were the same person until last night. Sean. Thank you very much. Have you on? Hi, paul. We're back with much much more, Bruce. Join us in the final hour as we continue with your phone calls after this back. We are glad you're here. Let's grab some more phone calls. Reggie as in Kentucky up next. Hey, reggie. Hey, how you doing? We're doing great. Thank you. I'll tell you what thanks for taking my call. And if you remember me last week Monday and Tuesday, I called you win. I was watching you that was crazy show. Save coming off duty stuff. I don't know what happened Friday. But please don't cut me off. No, no. You got all day. But I'm a basketball junkie, and I'll tell you what that that walford word me when I've seen how they play in that first game. Oh my goodness. But we we got we, but they skirted him and took care of. But I'm I I'm looking at the brackets and all this stuff, and you got to five that one one two three and a five Auburn and up there. I I've had my TV tar down. So I haven't are what you all said on the show but Oregon third twelfth they was twelve seat and that other than that. One two three and twelve is on the top line. The other side is one two three four on both the top and bottom the brackets. Yeah. A Kentucky fan, but I want. I I don't know what I'm allowed to mention them on the radio or not the on your show, but Duke Duke was beat yesterday that taco fall, buddy. They had them beat. That would assure messed up everybody's cracking. But I'll let you go. I just wanted to get my two cents worth in. But hope you don't cut me off. Well, thank you very much. Reggie, unfortunately, I did Tisch is a mixed in Arkansas, you're at the end of the call, by the way, Tisch go right ahead. Hi. Hi, pal. Love your show it forever. I've taught several times wonderful. I'm a big razorback fan. But that's another story. But what turnament we've had? I mean, March madness is really March madness right now, and I'm just loving it. These games have been so exciting, and it's just been so much fun to watch. And with the world the way it is right now, we need this. And I think it's just been a it was interesting yesterday was a boating utterly bizarre news day as everyone probably knows. And and I found myself even being a news junkie by the time. We got to do that ended that game. I was one of the more riveting finishes I've ever seen considering what was it steak? I forgot there was even something going on on the on the news channel. So it was great. And I know wasn't that great. I mean, you know, you you were so into the game that nothing matter. It was just that right there. And it was the special counsel more found more collusion at the end of the game with the referees. And he did in the investigation the two year investigation. The truth. Ball will listen you have a good day. Thank you for taking my call. And of course, I'm gonna say we pick city. You got a great to hear from you. Thank you, very very much Chris in Knoxville, Tennessee. Hello, chris. Hello, either blocking the lady Volve the fans and the players are in a very moment on little Mike is short and sweet talk talk. Holly Warlick variety is on the wall. I wind up and listen to you. There. Chris I listen to you're the second cholera on Holly Warlick, you know, some people are wondering, you know, what's going on up there. The one thing about that program is there's not really a sense of urgency because they're not playing again until next November at some point. I do think you'll hear from the university. You know, they're back in town now after the trip to a high. Oh, I'm sure they don't want to rain on the valves men's team parade. But at some point they either have to say, we're keeping her. Or relating her go my sense is they're going to let her go. But I'm a couple of hundred miles away with no real knowledge other than what you have. Thank you for the call. Let's maybe stay in Knoxville again Robert is in big orange country. Hello, robert. Hey, thank you for taking call out of cutting questions. He's real fast and do another false beat Iowa who's been between our Purdue today with chance to be tune. Then I had a question for you. Did you know who they have hockey team in Knoxville and ahead they play into the Birmingham bulls? Do you know who the now for the Birmingham bulls? Well, the first question is really easy. I mean, Purdue is the big ten they did they tie for the big ten championship. They win it outright. They michigan. Michigan state won at the one that tournament Purdue is infinitely better than than Iowa Iowa. To me looked like a middle of the pack team Purdue looks like an upper echelon team as far as the the Birmingham. Both believe it's ally gold. Yes, sir. Is that enough you need, but he is fantastic. And he's made our league better than it were. Well, listen, you you're talking about you. I e y gold is is one of the preeminent play by play broadcasters in the country. He he was one of the original people doing NASCAR. He he's done allies done. Highs very close friend of mine. So I I have mild expertise on him. But he he was doing hockey. He got his start sitting up in the rafters at Madison Square Garden. Broadcasting the games into a tape recorder as a sixteen year old that's how experienced and he he is he's also the Alabama play by play announcer. But you know, he also was the person who he was one of the first people in America in the seventies to do a an afternoon, call in radio show in Birmingham. And so I mean, he he is a pioneer still fairly young guy. But he's a pioneer in the industry. Robert, thanks for. Bring that up. Glad you could call us, and we are up against a break back with much more. So glad you are here. John hammond. Louisiana you're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, Paul how you doing? I'm a been listening about a year. First time caller. I really enjoy your show. Thank Alison spot on. I wanted to add my two cents on this. Michigan state LSU matchup. I'm thinking, I'm not a betting guy. But I think six points is a little strong. I was looking at a whole Michigan state game. And I don't think they're going to have the athletes at in. Specifically in the guard position is I don't think them guys are used to have in like if you put a Jonathan smaller net low God, they have I don't think he's used to that just wanted to get you thoughts on I think it's actually John it's hard to it's really hard to go against LSU right now, they're playing I mean, they they've they're playing so well, they've got a little luck. They needed it. But they also made the play at the end of the game. Thank you very much for the call. Gerry Texas next up? Hello, Gary Payton ape, oh, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call. Thank you throw throw another little hat into the picture. I don't think I've heard anybody talk of them. But I'm looking at Virginia playing really well. Yeah. Bad half. Real well defensively, they really do and got to get out club. And I think Auburn Auburn is going to be up there close to. I mean, they're going. They're going to win another ball game. Well, they got a tough one menopause, North Carolina. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, they're tough team. I mean, they're they're I listen. But think about this Auburn. Who was a team they beat New Mexico state on on Thursday. They beat a highly inflated Kansas team on Saturday, and I realized. Kansas sounds really good. But I mean, this is this is one of the worst is may be the worst Kansas seem I've seen since. In twenty five years. Yeah. Well, you know, they they you know that like I said that's why they put these. Yeah. Listen here in the Sweet Sixteen now, we're we're not down to we're not playing. Not playing the files yet. But now, these aren't these aren't bums left standing, thanks for the call. Do appreciate it Bernie is up next in Kentucky. Hello, Bernie what's going on as burden. It's not Bernie. Slap me silly for forgetting the wrong time. Yeah. That's all right. Hey, I was heard you gone phones. Name. As is your name is Vern baron Vernon. Yeah. Paul diva befo. Well, go ahead Vernon with a van. Yeah. With a with Alwin, you you you talked to me before. Okay. Whoa. That's wonderful. While you wanna talk about. Hey, I heard John farm and say a comment Amanda is interview. Instead everybody wants to see do can Carolina in the final game. Right. I I beg to differ. Ain't nobody outside stay in North Carolina. Or the maybe the toy CC sports writers will to see that match. You again, I like to see it for the finals. Well, where do you live, and that's a good point. Yeah. There you go. I live. I live in North Carolina. My homes and Alabama. Yeah. It's all is on board. Three years. It's hard to live out there without got drunk cooling. Hey, Vernon what's wrong with wanting to see the two the two bluest programs in the country play for the network. If you go back in history to bullets programs in the country is Kansas Kentucky. I'm not going back in history. I'm talking about twenty nineteen twenty nine teen. Vernon Vernon with me Vernon with a no in at the end. Let me tell you something. The biggest rivalry in college basketball. The two most recognized teams outside of Lexington Kentucky are North Carolina and Duke, you can go anywhere in the country. And that game is the most watched game. It's the most anticipated game. And I'm not taking anything away from the blue grass state just being out the truth here, which I tried to do on occasion. Lungs. They allow me to. Well, I'm just telling you that. That's not that's not a verte. I'm just telling Bernie. I'm just telling you that you're wrong. Well, I'm telling you, you're oh, well, I'm telling you that you're wrong. Well, I'll tell you your round. And you you think you're you're you're you're wrong wrong. Vernon you you're from Kentucky and your buys your by. Why am I buying because you? Dan show. What would it? Hey. Hey, what does it matter live? Okay. Over there under ACC Bill. Well, I'll tell you one thing I've lived in the south mine tire life. I've lived in the SEC footprint mind tire life. I've been to Kentucky countless times. And yes, I do live there right now. But I'm telling you the truth. And maybe it's not because I've been exposed to it for the last couple of years. It's the fact that I can read I can listen. That's routers thing. You know, they know it's true beat North Carolina wants this year. So what? Well, you don't give them any credit used for you to say all North Carolina's Bingham North Carolina's. Have you ever? I've never said that and. Yeah. And you can you give. Hey, Bernie, can you give me a reason why Bernie Paul well burning? Let me ask you this. Your name's not burning. No ex- Vernon. Well, listen, Bernie, let me say one more thing. Do you may not Bernie your name is Bernie, according to buy board here. Well, court court in my driver's license. It's burning prove it. I'm of it. Approve it ain't.

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