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"holly fan" Discussed on The Reigny Day Podcast | Ontario Reign

The Reigny Day Podcast | Ontario Reign

04:01 min | 1 year ago

"holly fan" Discussed on The Reigny Day Podcast | Ontario Reign

"Here we are I'm Cameron Close Zach dually is the rain insider. He's here as well. Big Exciting episode we put out the call and the listeners came through. We have a plethora of questions for you today that we will answer as part of our rain mailbag I'm excited to get into it could take two segments as we wanted to. that's that's the hope is that we're going to retake two seconds to got Matt Millar the. Rain Goalie Coach on the show today on the program it'll be our guest he'll be our interview but before we get to that, are you doing Well, thank that's a question for me. That's one down recovering from your chirp about my glasses on social media. I think they're they're pretty good sized personality. They're above average throughout normally large but I guess we'll see if anyone asked that question a big buddy Holly Fan Zach that's the way I can always look at it but nobody asked that. They didn't ask what I was allergic to either so that'll be another day. Plenty of questions to get before we do that. Out crying support for the draft, a Bingo board is going to push that into fruition. So we've already come up with a list of twenty five to thirty we're going to. Whittle that down we're GONNA put get something. Nice. Made an.

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"holly fan" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

07:00 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore. Gary's the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just a. Was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I got the winter dance party knowing her age must have been ballroom. Dancing hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show you owns the rights. Now, the winter dance party and. You know, I sat through the the evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John. Muir, commodities, buddy. Holly was a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something written. And the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended I wife went over man, she saw tears running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me, I grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So it was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who was like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed throughout route tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name jewel was pine the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it. It got the gun with data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do we pointed up near pull the trigger. And and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day, and he did in the sheriff look at it. And they found out some serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the note that had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now. Just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. There was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later the newspapers got ahold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane. Well, not only that photographer claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat, and it, and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shopped pilots are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error. I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. For for a pilot. And I was also I spent six years, my wife is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened..

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"holly fan" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

07:00 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"Coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I do. I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me to greatest drummer river was buddy rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet up lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment. It was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show you owned the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and know wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John merica models, buddy. Holly with a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited. Very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy that he had written it. My first thought was, you know, are you going to ruin a beautiful night and interject something written and the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended I wife went over me and she thought tier running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about but ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me, I grew the crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking beef so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that that is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until this spring. You know, it's not snowing when the when the crash occurred throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with plying the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing he pointed up your pull the trigger and and one off and so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did miss sheriff looked at it. And they found out some the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later newspapers got ahold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane like something. Well, not only that a photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat. And it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy headshots Bislett are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error. I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened..

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"holly fan" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

13:45 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KGO 810

"Sleep better. This is coast to coast AM on cagey. Oh, eight ten. And welcome back to Costa because let me tell you about Gary Moore Gary's the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnists with a degree in music education from vendor. Cook Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book. And he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me greatest drummer ever was buddy. Rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who just that was just the of most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. He was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big boppers, real life, son. And he was great and emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding in John Munich models, buddy. Holly with a great, but nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy that he had written it. My first thought was, you know, are you gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written? And the song was so haunting captivating when it ended my wife would over and she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't going to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about but ended up speaking to barbed wire who was the wife of Jerry Dwyer the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and in very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout the night. So as investigators arrive the plane, the area was snow cover, and when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was powering the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the garbage tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did did dumbest thing he pointed up here. Pull the trigger. Where are off and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day, and he did in the sheriff. Let's get it. And they found out in the serial number that it was registered Charles hardened Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later the newspapers got a hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane made like something. Well, not only that photographer claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat, and it, and it just became almost standard rock and roll whiz with time that the buddy had shopped pilot. Are you convinced that this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. Know, I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years, my wife is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful wizard was just off they should never flown that day. No, that's exactly right and mazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely well. I took the position in in. My book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that that it was pilot error. And and I we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact he let that plane take off right? He he wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when wrote the crash analysis it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problem. And, you know, the crash lasted five minutes, you know, alison's was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. Than it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually, let's go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. Charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out here with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when I went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport help load the plane seat off that kind of thing. But in you know. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry wire got home and got to bed that night. Those those plane was dead was crafts though. The. Any evidence of blame were Dadan in cold out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime, I didn't have time any time that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book was ten years. So I'm going to my notes staff known, and I was surprised you remember some of that so many that that I never put into the book that one of them that's floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is the fact that during that time rock and roll organized crime, mafia, the Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call us. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Jerry, Gary Busey played the buddy. Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. He did you really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the boss, they were they were threatening him and the the. Plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's about. Well, first of all there was no I got to tell you the wreckage looks like he got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but the the crash investigators work with you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had. There'd been a bomb on board. The plane would have blown apart the air in the crash site in pieces would've been everywhere everywhere, and this was a very tight crash site and the plane was almost totally incompetent in in in together. But. Mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"holly fan" Discussed on 600 WREC

600 WREC

13:45 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on 600 WREC

"And ninety two point one FM. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore. Gary's the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones have, you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I got the winter dance party. Knowing her age must been ballroom dancing. I hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons by later found found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. There's a there's a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winner dance party. And you know, I sat through the the evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. Big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he would he would great and emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding in John Muir modest buddy? Holly with a great, but nothing really tripped my trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, I ain't gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended. I wife looked over at me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't I right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed-wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the charter service and. One sentence that she told said to me, I grew a crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the ESPN is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it's not trout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane was snow cover, and when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was piling the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the cracker picked up the gun with data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do we pointed up here pull the trigger and we're off and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day, and he did in the sheriff look at it. Then they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that he recorded in the note that they had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note that it was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later, the newspapers got ahold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane something well, not only that Africa gopher claims that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat. And it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy shots filing. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also at I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with a lot of experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was your office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening meal. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. And that that it was pilot error, and and we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. He'd spent out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take. All right. He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, you know, when when when wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned it up the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problem. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes, you know, finalists was everybody was fries that they did the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't that it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually plane go in and you know, George Keanu. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. Charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport help load the plane seed off that kind of thing, you know. It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry wire got home and got to bed that night. Those plane was dead was crashed though. Inhabitants of Lang were deaden getting cold already out there. And it's now why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime any time. Do we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a? You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book, I wrote the book ten years ago going to my notes staff known, and I was surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is fact that during that early time of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry. These young these, you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy crazy hard body was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famous Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Jerry, Gary Busey played the buddy. Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing. That's our and did an incredible job. Yeah. He did. He really incredible job. Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him. Andy. The. Causal theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's first of all there was no one. I gotta tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But, but they the crash investigators we work with, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had there have been a bomb on board. The plane would have blown apart near the crash site had pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in Conti in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story where were the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot, and do you know, they they found the plane? Around nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier not far from the runway. Right. No,.

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"holly fan" Discussed on 600 WREC

600 WREC

13:40 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on 600 WREC

"One FM. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say thank you so much. It's a it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest drummer river was buddy rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must been ballroom dancing. I thought I could take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. It was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the right now, the winter dance party and. You know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was a great emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding John merica models, buddy. Holly who had a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited because it's very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy that he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something written and the song was so haunting captivating. When it ended. I wife looked over at me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong, and I said, no. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when the when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout the night. So investigators arrived the plane Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name jewel was piling the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do we pointed up your pull the trigger. Where are off? And so he. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did in the sheriff. Let's get it. Then they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that they had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later newspapers got ahold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane happened like something. Well, not only that photographer claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll is time that buddy shots violent. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also at I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful wizard was just office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening meal. I rely well. I took the position in in. My book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that that it was pilot error, and we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened. And. There is a through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. It's been out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take. All right. He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when wrote the crash analysis it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned it up the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo in in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problems and the crash lasted five minutes. You know finalists was everybody was is that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually let plane go in George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight, and he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most counts it was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when I went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport I'd help load the plane see off that kind of thing. But you know. It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got to bed that night. Does the plane was dead was crashed though. Inhabitants of Blaine were deaden gain cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime time. Yeah. Any time that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our GNA. It just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book, I wrote the book was ten years go to my notes staff known, and I ever surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is it fact that during that early kind of rock and roll the organized crime, mafia, the Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over the recording industry and these young these, you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better they were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The mom was resisting. And Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. Yeah. He did. You really didn't incredible job. Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the. And it's a possible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's what I was gonna tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane if the plane had. There been bomb on board. The plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight grass and the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and do they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier?.

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"holly fan" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

13:59 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KTRH

"Less sleep better. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear he's the author of the critically acclaimed book plane with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do have been a real pleasure. Most my life has been able to be around some of the some of the great ones. You know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just a. That was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom, dancing, hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons about later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. There's a a performer buddy John Mueller who travels with the show, you owned the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. Big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John Mueller models buddy Holly with a great. But nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was going to ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating. When it ended. I wife looked over at me. And she starts here. Running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was try to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would beep so far away and be undressed, but crash investigators will tell you that it's it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name jewel was piling field in the spring a handgun. So he got out of it got another tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up near pull the trigger. Oh. And so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out some serial number that it was registered at Charles hardened Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that they had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later the newspapers got hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane something well, not only that. Kagera for claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat. And they'd be and it just became almost standard rock and roll is time that buddy has shocked pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced. It's pilot error. Yes. It's for a pilot. And I was also I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was just office should never flown that day. No, exactly. Right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that it was pilot error, and we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry, Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. He'd spent out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had hat which would having a lot of problem and the crash lasted five minutes. You know, alison's was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is a fact that the operator actually plane go, and you know, George she knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight, and he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you know went up to an observation area outside what the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. In all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing. You know? It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got bed that night. The plane was dead with crashed. Oh. Blaine were dead and getting cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime anytime anytime, do we have people prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our GNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that your Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book was ten years ago to my notes staff known, and I was surprised you remember some of that so many theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is fact that during that early kind of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry and these young Jarvis were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better they were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed in life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The mom was resisting. And Peggy sue Gherman who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson, you know, hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that Sar and did an incredible job. Yeah. He did. He really incredible job. Peggy sue said that but he had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him. Andy. The. Possible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that there was no gotta tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane. I if the plane had have been bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site pieces, everywhere everywhere, and this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together. But. Mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and do know they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier. Not far from the runway right now, five miles. Cornfield in and Mason city Iowa. And when investigators arrived, they found buddy, Holly and Ritchie Valens were..

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"holly fan" Discussed on WLAC

WLAC

13:50 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on WLAC

"To coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education. From bender cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be on. And it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life has been able to be around some of the some of the great ones. Have you know, for me, the greatest drummer ever was buddy rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. Strangest thing the way it was drawn into my my mother-in-law who is just bad. It was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance. Party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I hadn't thought I could take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. There's a there's a performer buddy John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to Leonard party. And you know, I sat through the the evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was a great emotional than performance Ritchie. Valens was outstanding. John modest buddy Holly with a great, but nothing really crypt my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written in my first thought was, you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something Britain and the song was so haunting captivating when ended my wife looked over at me, and she thought tear running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't going to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about but ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife, Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed trout tonight. So as investigators Ribe the plane was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing he pointed up near pull the trigger and we're off and so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later the newspapers got hold of it. Made it sound like something happened in the plane happened like something. Well, not only that photographer claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that. Buddy, shots Bislett. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced. It's pilots air. Yes. It's for a pilot. And I was also I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was off office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that that it was pilot error. And and we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened. And. There was through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Gary had spunk before he passed away he'd spun out different series to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when wrote the crash analysis it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned it up the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problems. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes. You know? I was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. Is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually, let the plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. Charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we go out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you. I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd helped load the plane seed off that kind of thing, but you know, you know. It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got to bed that night. Those are those plane was dead crashed the. Inhabitants of Lang were dead and gained cold already out there. And it's now why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone. That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime. Yeah. Any time. Do we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a, you know? You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that your Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book was ten years ago. So was going to my notes staff Noonan I ever surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book, but one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early time of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry and these young he's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed lightweight. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The body was resisting and Peggy sue Gherman who is famed Peggy sue of the Tucson, you know, hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. He did you really incredible job. But the Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him. Andy. And it's a plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's well. First of all there was no I gotta tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But, but they'd be the crash investigators work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane. I if the plane had there've been bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site pieces, everywhere everywhere, and this was a very tight crash site and the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, I'll tell you a story, we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot, and do you know, they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier. Not far from the runway right now, five miles and miles cornfield in in Mason city, Iowa. And when investigators arrived, they found buddy and Pali and Ritchie Valens were fifteen feet ten feet from the airplane mangled terribly mangled..

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"holly fan" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

13:31 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KTOK

"Welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back should say, George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of. Kind. You must know all kinds of musicians to. I do I do. I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest crime river was buddy rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never a buddy Holly fan. Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons by later found off out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. It was a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show you owned the right now to the winter dance party, and you know. Sat through the the evening. And it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was great and emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valance was outstanding and John Muir modest buddy. Holly with a great, but nothing really trip my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended my wife went over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. You know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife Jerry Dwyer the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me grew crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated a crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed trout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name jewel was piling the field in the spring, so handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun was the at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up the air pull the trigger and and we're off and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff looked at it. Then they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that he recorded in the note that the hidden one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later, the newspapers got ahold of it. Made it sound like something happened in the plane something well, not only that photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that. Buddy. It shocked pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experiencing airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot. Who was not instrument? Rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly. Right. And in the mazing, I I actually received hate mail and threatening meal. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that that it was pilot error, and we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when you wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problems and the crash lasted five minutes. You know finalists was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't didn't even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually, let the plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. And he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most counts it was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out here with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that, you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane, you know, off that kind of thing, but you know. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got to bed that night. Those those plane was dead was crashed though. Inhabitants of Lang were dead and getting cold Alrighty out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? Certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime any time that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book I wrote the book was ten years. Go going to my notes, staff noon, and I was surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is it fact that during that time of rock and roll the organized crime, mafia, the Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. The was was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson, you know, hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and did an incredible job. He did you really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the the. And it's a plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's well. First of all there was no I got to tell you the wreckage looks like he got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had. There have been a bomb on board. The plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in together but mangled mangled doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot, and do you know, they they found the plane around nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"holly fan" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

13:30 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"To coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out to, you know, for me, the greatest Chrome River was buddy rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never a buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who. Just that was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. Thought I should take dance lessons about later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment was a a performance John Mueller who travels with the show you owned the right now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he would he would agreed and emotional than the performance did vici balance with outstanding. John Merrick modest buddy Holly with a great, but nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, are you going to ruin a beautiful night? And check something you've written and the song was so haunting and captivating. When it ended my wife looked over at me, and she started here running down my face. She said what happened what's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer. The man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me cruelly, the crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and in very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seemed shocking he would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it was snowing when when the crash occurred nodes route tonight so as investigators arrive the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with piling the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up air pull the trigger. Where are off? And so he. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out some serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is by his real name. And that and he recorded in the note that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note that it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later newspapers got hold of it. Made it sound like something happened in the plane happened like something. Well, not only that a photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash that he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll. Liz Smith time that buddy it shots. Bislett? Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots here. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful was this should never flown that day. No it. It's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we gotta wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Exactly. And that it was there. And we we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened. And. There is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away. He'd spent out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? You wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so you know, when when when wrote the crash, now assists. It obviously point to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room e owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the heat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which was having a lot of problem. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes. You know, Alison was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't didn't even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight charter operator he spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane and in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing, you know. Yeah. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry got home and got bed that night. Those are the plane was dead was crashed though. Have it says Blaine were dead in cold already out there in the snow? Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? Certainly there are conspiracy theories. If almost everything anytime anytime that we have people have prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that your Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just kind of going to the book I wrote the book almost ten years go going to my notes staff known, and I was prized. Remember, some of that so many of the theories that I never put into the book, but one of them is floating out there now, and I thought over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. The plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early time of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. Somebody was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, Jerry Gary Busey played the buddy. Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. He did you really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that, but he had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said that they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the it's a plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's well. First of all, there was gonna tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site and the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. Fact, I'll pay story where were the bodies in the rubble. The only body was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot, and do you know, they they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"holly fan" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

KLBJ 590AM

13:45 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

"Better. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and self syndicated columnists with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on end. And it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out out for me. The greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa groping in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I hadn't thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments a reformer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it would he was great music and a wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens with outstanding? John Muir, commodity, buddy. Holly was a great, but nothing really trip. My trigger excited me very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended. I wife looked over man. She starts here. Running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. Who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but? Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew crash and. In my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who was like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most as close had been removed, which seems shocking would beef so far away and be undressed? But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. No it was snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane Mary was snow cover, and when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with pine the field in the spring. Saw handgun. So he got out of it got out of the garbage cracker picked up the gun with data. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger and. And. And so he. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. Then they found out from the serial number that it was registered Charles hardened Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired now. Just one just one just one. But he did not make a note that it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later the newspapers got hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane like something. Well, not only that Afrikaner for claimed it when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the the back of the pilot's seat. And it be and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shocked pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced pilots air. Yes. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so lot experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful. It was just office you'd never flown that day now. Exactly, right. And I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And that it was pilot error. And and we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and is there is there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Gary had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off right? He he wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, you know, when when when you wrote the crash analysis it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned that the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In in the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problem. And you know, the crash laps and five minutes, you know, finalists. Well, was everybody was fries that they that the plane crashed? I would be surprised if it didn't that it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. Hitter, they tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually, but the plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the plight left shortly after midnight. And he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most council was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight, then went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seed off that kind of thing. You know? Was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry Dwyer got home and got bed that night. Those are the plane was dead was crashed though. The. Inhabited since Lang were dead in cold out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime time any time that we have people prominent our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to check that you're Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a. Going to the book. I wrote the book ten years go to my notes staff known, and I will ever surprised remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it did they crash the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is it back that during that early kind of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over the recording industry, and he's young. You know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better they were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. But he was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. Yeah. He did. He really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him Andy the plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's first of all there was no I got to tell you the wreckage looks like he got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of a bomb in the plane if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. Fact tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and they found the plane. Yeah. Round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"holly fan" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

13:46 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Snow less sleep better. Welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore. Gary's the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author four chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's a it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind, you must know all kinds of musicians to well. I do I do it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out. You know, you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. This tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of was wonderful woman you'd ever meet up. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment. It was a was a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John merica models, buddy. Holly with a great. But nothing really tripped. My trigger excited very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you written and the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended I wife looked over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about. But I ended up speaking to barbed-wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me grooming that a crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like cost thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily drafts. Most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking he would beef so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed. Trout tonight. So as investigators arrive the plane, he was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of the garbage tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger and we're off and so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day, and he did in the sheriff look at it. And they found out in the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that he recorded in the notes that had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note. It was fired by the farmer. And so a few years later newspapers got a hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane made it happened like something. Well, not only that photographer claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot's seat. And it and it just became almost standard rock and roll is myth time that buddy has shots. Bislett? Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful wizard was your office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And it's amazing. I I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly. And th that it was pilot error. And and we we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened, and there is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I'd call it for Jerry Dwyer. Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he let that plane take off he wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, you know, when when when a wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room E onto the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza, which had cat which would having a lot of problem. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes, you know, finalists was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight. And he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was by most accounts. It was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And out there with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane and in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that you know, I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport, I'd help load the plane seat off that kind of thing, but you know. He was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry Maguire got home and got bed that night. Those are those the plane was dead crashed though. Inhabited since Blaine were dead and getting cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone? That's certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime anytime that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that. Jim Morrison still alive things like that capsule. Lutely, absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going through the book, I wrote the book almost ten years ago. So I was going to my notes staff known, and I was surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book, but one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life and uh and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Putting the plane. Yeah. There's why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during that early kind of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's you know, these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. But he was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Jerry, Gary Busey played the buddy. Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and didn't incredible job. He did you really incredible job. But the Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him and the he it's a plausible theory. But Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's the first of all there was no to tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum and wire, but but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane. I if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site pieces every. Everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. In fact, tell you a story we're we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and know they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"holly fan" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

13:32 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore. Gary's the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on and the great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book. Book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones. Have you know? For me, the greatest crime river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons by later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactment there's a a performer by John Miller who travels with the show, you owned the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And it was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John Mueller models buddy Holly with a great. But nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, I ain't gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting captivating when it ended my wife looked over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about who buddy. Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about. But I ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me. We did crash and. In my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and in very scantily dressed, most of his clothes had been removed, which seemed shocking he would beep so far away and be undressed, but crash investigators will tell you that it is not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow-covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun with the added. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger and we're off and so he evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff look at it. And they found out in the serial number that it was registered Charles hardened Holly, which is buddies real name and that and he recorded in the note that had been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later the newspapers got hold of it made it sound like something happened in the plane like something. Well, not only that Africa for claimed that when he was taking pictures of crash he found a bullet hole in the in the back of the pilot seat, and it and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shopped violent. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. I I I'm a pilot. And I was also I spent six years my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened. You have a twenty one year old pilot who was not instrument rated in the weather was lousy weather was awful. Was it was just office should never flown that day. No. I it's exactly right. And I. I actually received hate mail and threatening mail. I rely. Well, I took the position in in. My book is is we kind of wrote this analysis that the one called, hey, buddy. Yeah. Exactly and that it was pilot error. And and we we lay out the exact every scenario the crash what happened. And. There is a there was this through the years or has become a very strong. I guess lobby. I call it for Gary Dwyer, Jerry is the charter operator. And Jerry had spunk before he passed away his out different theories to kind of make. I guess excuses for the fact that he loved that plane take off right? He wanted to kind of take the load off. And so, and so, you know, when when when a wrote the crash now asus it obviously points to the fact that Jerry was the adult in the room he owned the airplane. He employed the pilot yet he put a twenty one year old unqualified inexperienced pilot who had a record of suffering suffering from vertigo. In the pilot's seat of an overloaded bonanza which had had which would having a lot of problem time. And you know, the crash lasted five minutes. You know, Alison was everybody was surprised that they that the plane crashed. I would be surprised if it didn't. Yeah. That it even took off. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's just. It is a tragedy upon tragedy and the greatest tragedy is the fact that the operator actually plane go in and you know, George he knew. Because the flight left shortly after midnight, and he's charter operator. He spent the whole day with the pilot checking the weather checking the plane he stayed in. It was record cold. It was most council was with the wind chill was almost thirty below. And we came out here with the plane loaded the plane once the plane taxied off he didn't leave and go home. He went up to the when you went up to an observation area outside watch the plane take off and stood there until the plane was out of sight and went to the control tower and tried to contact the plane. And in all my years of operating charter service. I never did that I had qualified pilots if I was at the airport I'd help load the plane. You see that kind of thing, you know. It was his action says that he was worried he was concerned, and you know, before Jerry Maguire got home and got bed that night. Those the plane was dead was crashed the. Any evidence that the plane were dead in cold already out there in the snow. Why so many conspiracy theories Gary about the crash, well, you know, better than anyone that certainly there are conspiracy theories of almost everything anytime time. Yeah. Any time that we have people of prominence our heroes, especially if they die a. You know, a tragic, but explainable death. There's something encoded in our DNA that just doesn't want to believe that doesn't want to accept that your Morrison still alive things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, I was just a kind of going to the book wrote the book was ten years ago. So I was going to my notes staff known, and I was surprised you remember some of that. So many of the theories that I never put into the book that one of them is floating out there now, and it's all over the internet is it that the crash was fake the buddy didn't like his life. And and reappeared a few years later somebody else. That's interesting. Also, there was a theory about a bomb. Right. Put in a plane. Yeah. There is why would that pop up? Well, it is it is is the fact that during the early time of rock and roll organized crime, mafia, LA Cosa, Nostra, whatever whatever you wanna call it. They were really working hard to take over recording industry, and he's young. He's these artists were almost all of them were teenagers. They didn't know better. They were signing contracts. They should shouldn't have signed life way. And they were pursuing buddy pretty hard. Buddy was resisting and Peggy sue gern who is the famed. Peggy sue of the Tucson hit song. That's right. Yeah. Longtime buddy, our friend. Gary Gary Busey played the buddy Holly in the buddy Holly story in seventy eight by the way. Yeah. Absolutely. I remember him singing that song and did an incredible job. Yeah. He did. You really incredible job. The Peggy sue said that buddy had called her and talked to her about the fact that he was afraid said said they were following the bus. They were they were threatening him, and the applause theory, but Georgia the thing that makes it very difficult to believe that that's the first of all there was no to tell you the wreckage looks like you've got blown up. Well, I've never seen a plane more mangled and all my life. Oh, yeah. It it ended up just being a ball of aluminum wire. But but they'd be the crash investigators. We work with said, you know, there was absolutely no evidence of the bomb in the plane. I if the plane had there have been a bomb on board the plane would have blown apart near the crash site. He pieces would've been everywhere everywhere. And this was a very tight crash site in the plane was almost totally in county in in in in together but mangled mangled. It doesn't look like a plane. No, you would not notice an airplane. Fact, I'll tell you a story where we're the bodies in the rubble the only body that was in in the rubble was the pilot in fact. They were looking for the pilot and they found the plane round nine o'clock in the morning a little bit earlier..

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"holly fan" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

05:42 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Less sleep better. KFI AM six forty. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and he's one of. A kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to. I do I do. It's been a real pleasure. Most my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out for me. The greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just bad. It was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must have been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments a performer John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music and wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was great and emotional performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding in January modest buddy. Holly was a great. But nothing really tripped. My trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, I ain't gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written. And the song was so haunting in captivating. When it ended wife looked over man. She started here running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession. Learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't a right about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is wife of Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she told said to me, I did crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who was like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the end ESP is we kind of recreated crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was on the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun with the it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger.

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"holly fan" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

05:44 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"Snow less sleep better. And welcome back to coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary. Critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award playing with the enemy is currently option. Does a major motion picture Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program. And welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book, and he's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out, you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in you know, I was never buddy Holly fan? Strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. It was a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now, the winter dance party, and you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it would he was great music and wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he he was great and emotional, and the did Ritchie Valens was outstanding and John Mueller modest buddy. Holly was great, but nothing really crypt my trigger excited until the very end of the show. John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. I thought whereas, you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something written. And the song was so haunting captivating. When it ended. My wife looked over me. And she started here running down my face. She said what happened? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just harmless on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't going to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about. You know, who buddy Holly was try to find stories that people had written about, but. Ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife Jerry Maguire, the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me drew me to the crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing all happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left to this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and in very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the ESPN is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. You know, it's not snowing when when the crash occurred snowed route tonight, so as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get all the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel was pine the field in the spring, so a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor up. The gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing still pointed up near pull the trigger. And and.

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"holly fan" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

05:13 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and a self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often mix his progressive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and he's one of. A kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to well. I do I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life has been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out to you know, for me, the greatest Graham river was buddy, rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kind of wonderful woman you'd ever meet. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. I thought I should take some dance lessons about later found on found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments there's a a performer by John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the rights now to the winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. Big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And he was he was great emotional than the performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding. John, Merrick models, buddy. Holly who had a great, but nothing really tripped my trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy that he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something you've written and the song was so haunting in captivating when it ended my wife looked over at me, and she saw tears running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? And I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't going to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about but ended up speaking to barbed wire who is the wife of Jerry Dwyer the man who owned the charter service and one sentence that she said to me, I grew a crash and in my analysis of it. I gotta tell you. It was an incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's a it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in what's the big Bopper. Was he the one who is like tossed thirty feet away from everybody else? Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seemed shocking he would be so far away and be undressed. But crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually worked with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, and it snowed throughout tonight. So as investigators arrived the plane, Mary was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall the debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with.

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"holly fan" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

07:00 min | 2 years ago

"holly fan" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"To coast to coast. Let me tell you about Gary Moore gear is the author of the critically acclaimed book playing with the enemy winner of the two thousand six military writer's society of America book of the euro award plane with the enemy is currently optioned as a major motion picture, Gary is a contributing author for chicken soup for the father and son soul and the self syndicated columnist with a degree in music education from vendor cook, Gary has performed professionally music of all genres and taught students of all ages and groups and will often his percussive performance skills. Into the subject matter at hand. Gary welcome to the program and welcome back. I should say George. Thank you so much. It's it's a pleasure to be on. And and it's great beyond with you. I've been a fan I had a chance to interview Kenny aronoff about a year ago, the great drummer and God, he's he's exciting. He wrote a book and. He's one of a kind one of a kind you must know all kinds of musicians to I do. I do I've it's been a real pleasure. Most of my life. I've been able to be around some of the some of the great ones out to, you know, for me to greatest drummer ever was buddy. Rich. Yeah. Yeah. Every time I hear that song American pie. Yeah. I think of this tragedy. This incredible story. How did you get interested in it? You know, I was never buddy Holly fan. It's just the strangest thing the way it was drawn into this. My my mother-in-law who is just that was just the kindest most wonderful woman you'd ever meet out. Lived in Iowa grew up in Waterloo. She for her seventy fifth birthday said she wanted to go to the reenactment of the winter dance party. Well, I thought the winter dance party knowing her age must've been ballroom dancing. Thought I should take some dance lessons about later found off found out that she was just a rabbit buddy Holly fan, and I didn't know it. And so we we went to the reenactments. There's a a performer buddy John Mueller who travels with the show he owns the right now to winter dance party. And you know, I sat through the. The evening, and it was he was great music, and you know, wonderfully performed. The big Bopper was performed by the big Bopper, real life, son. And it was great and emotional than performance. Did Ritchie Valens was outstanding and John Muir models, buddy. Holly with a great, but nothing really tripped my trigger excited until the very end of the show John announced that he was about to sing a song called. Hey, buddy. That he had written. My first thought was you know, you're gonna ruin a beautiful night and interject something written. And the song was so haunting captivating. I when it ended I wife looked over at me. And she thought here running down my face. She said what happened was wrong? I said, I don't know. And from that moment on I was just almost on an obsession to learn more about buddy, Holly, learn more about and I determined that. I wasn't to write about the crash. I thought there's enough written about that. I just want to write about, you know, who buddy Holly was trying to find stories that people had written about. But I ended up speaking to barbed wire who was the wife of Jerry Maguire the man who owned the chargers. And. One sentence that she said to me drew me to the crash and in my knowledge of it. I gotta tell you. It was. An incredible story. I was only nine when this thing happened. So I was way too young to really understand it. But later on. I began to realize, you know, this was a huge story. And I've seen pictures of the plane. It is so mangled. Yes. It's it's a wonder they all died because there's there's nothing left of this plane in the big Bopper was he the one who is like cost thirty feet away from everybody else. Yeah. Actually forty feet. He was forty feet ahead of the plane. And and and very scantily dressed most of his clothes had been removed, which seems shocking. He would beep so far away and be undressed, but crash investigators will tell you that it's not unusual, and I actually work with a crash investigator from the NTSB is we kind of recreated the crash, and he said that that's not surprising at all. Didn't they also find a handgun somewhere? They did. They did they didn't find the handgun until the spring. It's not snowing when when the crash occurred, it's not throughout the night. So as investigators arrived the plane the area was snow covered. And when they did the crash cleanup. They didn't get hall of debris. Well farmer by the last name of jewel with pine the field in the spring. So a handgun. So he got out of it got out of the tractor picked up the gun looked at it. And for whatever reason did the dumbest thing do he pointed up here pull the trigger and we're off and so he. Evidence. Yeah. And so he thought well, okay. I'll take this to the to the sheriff the next day. And he did the sheriff looked at it. And they found out in the serial number that it was registered Charles Hardin Holly, which is buddies real name. And that and he recorded in the notes that he'd been one shellfire. Beyond what he fired. No, just one just one just one. But he did not make a note, it was fired by the farmer, and so a few years later, the newspapers got a hold of made it sound like something happened in the plane, something well, not only that Africa for claimed that when he was taking pictures of the crash he found a bullet hole in the the back of the pilot's seat, and it, and it just became almost standard rock and roll Wisma time that buddy had shot the pilot. Are you convinced at this point Gary that what happened was pilot's error? I am convinced its pilots air. Yes. It's I I I'm a pilot. And I was also a I spent six years of my life is a charter operator. And so a lot of experience with pilots lot experience in airplanes. And it is. So crystal clear, really what happened..

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Harley-Davidson sales keep declining

The Economist Radio

00:54 sec | 3 years ago

Harley-Davidson sales keep declining

"Angula prepares to ride off into the sunset. We turned our attention to Harley Davidson, the great maker of motorbikes, which is on money to explode cost found that engines are stooling midwest. Correspondent fending phone Brady says have now declined for sixteen consecutive quarters and the last quarter was no exception sales actually plunged by thirteen percent. Investors are rather worried about the state of Holly, the main Holly fan group consists of Griddle white middle aged men, so they need to appeal more to younger group to millennials and to women and minorities, and they're trying to do that. But so far, I think it's a bit of

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