2 Burst results for "Holland Chen"
Ben Greenfield Fitness
"holland chen" Discussed on Ben Greenfield Fitness
"All right folks, well, strap yourselves in for a wild ride today because while most of my guests are indeed in the realm of health and biohacking and fitness, my guest today are not only into all of that, but they're also into this idea of health being about more than just biohacking. These guys have studied up on wealth. They've set it up on relationships and they also happen to be real experts in the whole realm of crypto and NFTs. And so this is going to be a fun discussion. Andrew masato is a guy who I ran into quite some time ago in New York City, I believe it was doctor Holland Chen, I think, who might have introduced us, but anyways, I got a chance to hang out with Andrew and kind of see him in his space over there a few years ago. He owns biohacking group dot com. He's a serial entrepreneur. He's an investor. He's very active in blockchain. He was the founding CMO of reserve, which is backed by Peter Thiel and coinbase and a few others, which is currently at a 1 billion plus valuation. He was the founding CMO of another company called hedera hashgraph, which was backed by Google and IBM and Boeing with a fully diluted 10 billion plus valuation and crypto. Recently launched an NFT based website that he'll be talking about quite a bit as well. And he's lectured on Internet marketing, Harvard Business school. He founded and sold higher click SEO agency. He's lectured at Oxford University. He is widely quoted by a lot of industry leaders on growth marketing, he has worked as a lawyer in the UK as an investment banking analyst in Australia. So this guy is up to quite a bit. He's a real renaissance dude. Andrew before I introduce your partner in crime, he's also joining us, say hello, just so people know your voices. Hey, Ben, that was quite the introduction. I'm going to make sure that my staff never give that length of introduction. Again, to anyone. You know, people send me these bios and you know, I got to fill people in, hey, at least I'll help to make you credible, ma'am. I appreciate you. Make you sound smart. Jordan is my other podcast guest on today's show. Jordan fried. He's a blockchain evangelist, a crypto capitalist. He's currently the chairman and the CEO of immutable holdings, which is a blockchain holdings company. He founded and operates NFT dot com, which is a relatively newly launched website. We'll be talking about as well as immutable asset management. He was also part of the founding team behind hetero hash graft. I served the senior VP of business development there until the end of 2020 and they signed partnerships again with Google and IBM and Boeing and LGE electronics and that kind of launched that particular offering into being one of the top hundred cryptocurrencies in the world in Jordan is also cofounded and served as CEO of buffered VPN, which is a real popular VPN service online. And Jordan's been involved in Bitcoin and crypto since 2012, so Jordan, welcome also to today's show. Thanks, Ben. Big fan and super excited to talk about the intersection between biohacking your world in crypto because I think there's a lot more overlap than people realize. I actually want to get into get into quite a bit about that. But first of all, tell me about you guys a story. How did you meet and what's been the journey of you two working together? Well, we have really been through quite a few companies together to join in and I our story starts, data back in, I think, close to 2010 over ten years ago, I'd started higher click Jordan came in as sort of almost like a CEO, really, and he built that company up. The one I started to sell, eventually he started buffered VPN, and I went on to do Internet marketing. And I think the and then in 2017, we reunited after he just sold Buffett VPN. We reunited and started a hashgraph together. And man, that was just timing within 6 months we had raised a 100 million at a $6 billion valuation. Now it's at like between a ten to $20 $1 billion valuation. And then he came to me more recently and it's just so hard not to say no to this guy because a is a great salesman and B and I have many passions together and we've been together for such a long time. I think that's one thing to emphasize we have kept a strong bond over time is someone I deeply trust and love and our paths have collided and we've just added a lot of value to each other. So I'm really grateful for that long-term relationship and for our continued success all the way up to what is now us cofounding NFT dot com together. Yeah, I've got to give the other perspective Ben because the truth is, Andrew's always been one step ahead of me. He's a few years older and definitely a few years wiser, but when he was just getting into performance marketing or sort of actually I would say just getting out of performance marketing and moving on to the next thing. I was really just getting into it. When Andrew and I had met, Andrew has been over a decade now. It was clear to me that this guy is on the bleeding edge of what's coming, often before other people realize it. You got to realize at the time we were doing search engine we were doing search engine optimization. It was still a relatively nascent industry. It's a cottage industry for those that don't know, optimizing your search profile. So you rank higher in the SEO cert pages. It's very lucrative. If you can rank number one for best credit cards, that's a $100 million a year keyword for companies.
Ben Greenfield Fitness
"holland chen" Discussed on Ben Greenfield Fitness
"What's the leading components? And the last part is, I think the most important part. Did you do everything right with your body, but even if your mind and emotions straight, you make yourself sick and feel terrible, right? So people can pick and choose the things that they really want, but also if you look at us like a guidebook for the rest, you know, the next few years, you got somebody in your family. It's got a problem. Boom, you can go to that section and know the best of the best that's available today. Yeah, yeah, and guys, I know we're running a little bit long in the tooth, but there's a couple other things I wanted to ask, because we're going to go back to the fancy stuff. There's two different life extension strategies that might seem a little out there, but talking about some of this sexy stuff is interesting as well. So as a life extension strategy, have either of you guys done anything like the young blood transfer or the therapeutic plasma exchange or this kind of more fringe protocol of basically replacing your plasma, replacing your blood. So the therapeutic plasma exchange is something I'm looking into doing and we're developing both our and we're developing an investigational new drug application. One of the things we're doing with fountain life for our members who are have the edgier programs instead of running off outside the U.S. to Mexico or Costa Rica or Panama to do it. We're working with the FDA to apply for what's called an IND and investigation new drug and then be able to do it under a protocol of where you can be contributing to science at the same time that you get it. And there are besides the total plasma exchange, there are things like rapamycin and senolytic medicines like questions. And so these are the sorts of things where there's a lot of hope. There's a lot of evidence, but the science isn't really buttoned up yet for it to go to the FDA for any kind of approval. The young blood experiments, the parabiosis experiments, no, but both Tony and I are investors in a company that identify. This is out of Harvard's Amy wagers lab. When you can connect the old circulatory system of an old mouse with a new mouse in this parabiosis, the old mouse gets younger and the young mouse gets older and when they looked at why what they did was they found one particular growth factor called GDF 11 that is changing over time. It goes down over time in the circulatory system as you age and so there's a whole program right now to develop GDF 11. Okay, interesting. And now related to that, I know that one common thing that a lot of regenerative medicine docs are doing now is they're not replacing the blood to filter in the blood. You pull that one arm, you pass it typically through like ozone, UV, et cetera, then pass it back into the body. I've done that. I have as well. Those on plasmapheresis and I've also done the ten pass ozone. I think that's a pretty reasonable halfway solution. I mean, I personally feel like it's an oil filter change for the body. I'm in it as well. And also, you know, there's some things we didn't put in the book just because they don't have enough proof yet. But there's also V cells, which you may have heard of. Yeah, so they're circulating your body and they, you know, there's nothing they did not change or like in suspended animation and they take them out. They treat them and put them back in. I've had that experience as well. And, you know, and they do studies, you know, using the what do you call it clock the methylation clock? And it's supposed to be, again, I haven't seen enough evidence, but I've done it myself is every time you treat it, you supposedly take three years off of your biological age. And I got the spectra cell telomere analysis afterwards, which is it's not as good as the methylation class, but it's good for a telomere analysis. I had doctor Holland Chen do that a few years ago in New York City and saw a significant decrease in the rate of telomere shortening from that V cell injection. It was an IV. Yeah, it's fascinating. I'm actually going to go down to Park City Utah in March and see Harry adelson, who does the full body stem cell makeover thing. And I think he does B cells as part of that as well. And then one other kind of sexy thing I wanted to ask you guys about because this one I was scratching my head on when I read about it in the book, I thought, I don't know about this, but these remote controlled microbots, smaller than a grain of rice that can travel through the body to deliver drugs. Well, I mean, you know, a lot of the mark of the beast, people taking over our bodies, folks, I'm sure are also raising I brought that. Would either of you guys actually inject nanobots into your body? So this is a technology out of Israel that's been developed and it's in testing right now. And you can introduce these microbots. They're not nanobots. They are small in the grain of rice. But you inject them into the spinal cord into the spinal fluid. And then you steer them magnetically up into the base of the brain. And the challenge with almost all brain surgery today or almost all cancer today, it's a very gross technique, right? You're poisoning the entire body with a chemotherapy or you're opening up and you're lopping out a piece of the brain. What these microbots are intended to do is be very precise, be able to enter through the ventricles of the brain and be able to avoid any kind of neural damage, but when they get to the point, the target that you want, they can release a toxin, or they can release certain antibodies. They have crossed the blood brain barrier there. And then you reverse the path and you extract it in the same part of the spinal canal that it went in..