18 Burst results for "Holden Caulfield"
Edward Norton Discusses His New Film 'Motherless Brooklyn'
"Everybody. I'm Peter Travers this popcorn where we tell you what's happening at the movies and there's a movie out now that I truly love called motherless Brooklyn which is written directed and starred my guest Edward Norton Great Devere then too long. It's been way too but I talk about long as long as I've known you which has has to be going on twenty years. We've been talking about mother. It was really you've been. That book came out. Jonathan Lethem's book came out and he said I'm going to do that. Yeah this is going to be. But it's finally here. Peter I told you I would and I did I did but you know I can't wait another twenty wanted to do it. But how do you feel now. Really good I when something's been rattling around your head for a long time it is it is nice to get it out. It's sort of like I relate. My character has to read syndrome and obsessive compulsive disorder and when he talks about having glass in the brain. And that's a little bit how this project was for me. It was like glass in my brain. I want. It was uncomfortable and I wanted to. I did want to get get it out but apart from that personal compulsion to see it through. I'm happy with the way it came out. Maybe maybe more than I usually am. Actually it's saying the things I wanted to say and I think maybe you commented on this. It's it's sort of. I don't think it would have had the resonance that that it has now ten years ago. Honestly We were talking about this before we started just the difficulty of course as he has commented on very eloquently. I think in his kind of elegy to the how difficult theatrical films have gotten how difficult it has gotten to release original theatrical films. It's it's always a struggle for filmmakers to make original Ville visions. It's always been you see the cast we had in this film. We have Bruce Willis and Willem Defoe and Alec Baldwin and Google about the Ron and Bobby Kennedy Volley in great great actors. But you still have to. You still have to sort of struggle to find the resources is you need to make it. And I wasn't and I didn't need them. Two hundred million easy. My I got all my actors working the free on my actors worked for nothing to help me get it made honestly but you still but you still have to still have to figure it out. Well there's so many things in terms of mother Louis Brooklyn about what you have to do even with a studio backing him. You have a movie that maybe they don't know what the title is. Maybe maybe they never read Jonathan's book it'd be they're saying what's it about right. I'll what is this and that money has to be poured into letting them know what it is. Ask because not presold been John Game. Yeah No to do the property those things and look in my case. I I was there saying look. I WanNa make a big old fashioned period epoch about New York in the vein of the Godfather or L. A. confidential confidential. or any any of these great old fashioned movie experiences I think demonstrably audiences really loved right when they're good. We all love of those films and and I wanted to mash it up a little bit with other another type of movie. I love which you also have a pure you know sort of the underdog the the forrest gump. The Rain Man That idea of a a hero. whose very unusual has an unusual condition edition? That you've never seen before that you feel empathy for and the empathy that you feel for him the the fact that you immediately. You're on his side. That's part of what that's what pulls you through. A murky. It takes is one of the nicest guys you've ever played. WELL HE IS I. I think he's well. It's funny and someone said to me you've done a lot of people with Conditions are afflictions. I said No. I've done a lot of people who are fating conditions or yeah like like primal fear baking the score with Deniro in American History X. There's no faking. He's he's just. He's angry mentally ill and the truth is this character. He's not mentally ill he. Just has he has terrip syndrome so people they call him freak show but he's he's smart and he's intelligent. He's he's susu sensitive. The great thing about watching this movie is that it takes awhile sometimes for you to say my brain isn't working like Lionel's right. Oh He's piecing together this puzzle in his own head his own synapses and we're trying to put a linear thing that isn't there. No Oh but I I actually the only thing that I just. I think that Agreeing in house district buys by a certain point story. I think when characters this goes back to like J D Salinger Holden caulfield and catcher in the Rye when sometimes when a character tells you his own story right from the start you you relate you feel the emotional hook and I think if you set that hook early with a character if in this case Lionel in a classic detective voice over where he tells you I have something wrong with me. I struggle with it. I I have friends. Who Understand? Me like Bruce Willis but not everybody does and it's it's tough. You know you start to go. Oh I inside this guy I understand him. You want him to do well. You don't want him to trip himself up. You're always reform. I I just think what you're doing you're saying I don't quite know how he's piecing it together doesn't tell you know and that goes to what you've done with Jonathan Lethem's book set in the late nineties but you send it back in time as through the fifty S. I don't think anybody ever knew what to read sets the well. That's what you just said is part of the reason we put it in the fifties the the the isolation the characters isolation not just in terms of other people being a little less sensitive calling him freak show But if you know that he doesn't even know what he has your even more sympathetic. It's it's it's even more isolating to not know what's wrong with you in some sense but the other thing was honestly Jonathan and I both really like those movies. The the the old fashioned atmospheric feeling of those noir films from that era. The novel motherless Brooklyn Brooklyn is very interior it's inside the characters head but obviously a film is a big a bigger canvas. You have you've got to create a landscape for people to look cat and it's great landscape. Yeah it's that whole fifties thing that's going on in New York and why. Why no is called called motherless Brooklyn Yeah you know why basically has nobody so no one looking for him? But he has Bruce Willis's character yes when a minutes boys so he he has something. And that's how this movie starts. It's about who killed my mentor. Who did this and then we get what to me? She has a real chinatown by. which is where's what's festering underneath this? It's not just who murdered character. What's going on? It's it's what's going on. Well you had the water in La. That was going on. You Know Chinatown chinatowns. Great because it's about La's original sin. It's not just about Out a mystery it's about the idea that La is built on crime. And that's and that's that's what I like about our foams. They they do. What you said is exactly right? It says hey they say hey yes. It's a certain mystery and a certain emotional relationship is driving why he's investigating but really what what this about is the more he he takes us into the shadow we realize there are things going on in what we call our democratic like Galateri in New York society that are violently antagonistic to everything. We say we believe in which we see through the out Baldwin Characters or Robert Moses type character master builder under a person that says I'm GonNa create the city to look like this and then cuts out anybody who's an outside anybody who is into one percenter right which which is what goes to the topicality. Yeah even now and was a racist t the total race. Yeah and I think that idea of the way that the way that we actually baked people talk about institutional racism but discrimination was literally baked into the Way New York was built into a modern city. They literally did do things like lower bridges to the new beaches. They overpasses they set them too. Low for buses is to clear them. Because they didn't want black and Latino minority citizens coming to the new public beaches so they literally limited access and people think that sounds like a conspiracy theory but it happened though it did happen and we see it and yet these are things that you have in your screenplay screenplay this book added to. Yes what was in the book right when you collaborate with somebody like Jonathan Right. WHO's a really terrific right? I really great writer. Is He with you on. I couldn't have done what I did on. This was bowled you could call it. Yeah but but he doesn't say what have you done. No no no no. I wouldn't do that without checking it out out with him. I I felt that I felt there was reasons to set it in the fifties. We talked about that. He liked that idea because he likes those films and I think he he knew is fill his book we had a certain Surreal Meta modernism. If you WANNA call it data it's really about the interior life of this character. He he wasn't so married to the plot per se. The plot didn't wasn't like the story of my family or the story of my city. It was it's a very Byzantine mazed. It's really an excuse to write the character in some sense. You know he also loves Raymond Chandler and you know those guys marlow at the detective. Active in Chandler with went through a couple of novels right so we kind of approached it like his great character going into another the next another another story in terms of taking a movie which you've described we've talked about it now and putting it on the screen. Do you worry about it reaching reaching an audience putting out kind of putting out work that you do that you you have a deep feeling for is always It's always got Certain emotional risk no matter how thick skin you get over the years no matter how many no matter how many you know. I've been through quite a few experiences like I'm getting a a nice honor from the camera. Image Festival in Poland this year. It's the Great Cinematography Festival right. And they sent me a rundown of the films they wanted to review in this thing. And it's amazing like at the top line of of those kinds of assessments of films. I've done that people think are really Definitive or something like that. You have like fight club. And he's always in there and the twenty fifth and American history x is always in there and none of those films did well.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Do By Friday
"I think I've told the story on back to work, but one time circa mid-2000s when I had some notoriety in the world of max and productivity, apple and productivity mostly maximum contacted by this woman at one of those like Matt gadget or digital addict. Or something like that. And she's like I wanna talk to you about about about your work with maximum productivity. And the interview went something like this is like so Merlin, would you wouldn't you agree that you're probably one of the foremost thinkers on the topic of productivity as it relates to computers. I said, you know, I really wouldn't at all. And if you were. To quote, something like that. That would be a gross mischaracterization of what I think and believe so much. So that it would be really frustrating to me said. Okay. So would you say this is probably the most exciting time for MAC users and terms of pro kept going going going and going, and of course, I'm fucking Holden Caulfield, and I'm like, no, you big phony. That's not right here. Listened to my mouth words. My mouth words are better than yours use those and it kept going on and on and on. And I started get kind of frustrated. Okay. Well, I think good everything I need. Now. We need to book you for the photo shoot. And I said you need to shoot who in the what? Now, and she wasn't bookie for the photo shoot. And said, okay, tell me a little more about that said. Well, okay. So everybody who's being interviewed for this package is going to get shot. You got come out. And we have a photographer that's going to you're going to dress like Steve Jobs. Everybody jobs, and you can have turn. On the floor. And then photograph everybody like that for the package. I said well. I'll look forward to seeing that. I don't think I'm empty. What's breaking up? I don't think ability for that photo shoot. That's not even something. I would miss you too..
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Unspooled
"When. Bomb hitting when I have a free weekend. You busy right now. You got something to do right now. You got something good. I don't talk to him about when. Reading everything candy commandment. Yes. Yes. Yes. Candy. I want you to the famous Bill. Go care. We. So that happens, and you you can make the argument that he is like he just needs a little push. Maybe Berg gotta get pushed out of the nest. But a really interesting thing happens in the morning, which you really just only see on Jack Nicholson's face. It comes in all of the patients are like drunk and passed out in various places award. It's insane. She walks into like, a a bachelor party college dormitory gun wrong. It's it's it's insane. Like it sets up a why she so angry. I mean like this this chaos. Oh my God. Can you imagine? You're like a medical professional all of this chaos, and she can't truly show her emotion because then that would be something that would undercut her in the ward, she has to keep a status quo. She has to keep it in. So she gets Billy out. He's she's finds them in bed with candy. She says the thing about his mother, you know, Billy. What worries me is how your mother's going to take this. Well, you you don't don't have to. Intelligence ratchet. Your mother and IRO friends, you know that. Please. Don't. Thought of that before you took that woman in that room. And then she's telling Billy that she's going to call his mom, and here's what I think is really interesting when she says that not only does Billy start freaking out in crying as you might expect him to do. He starts punching himself in the face. Right. He starts punching himself in the face, and you'll get this look on Jack Nicholson's face any realize that is the moment that Jack Nicholson realized that Billy actually needs to be in here. This whole time Jack Nicholson, I think has been deluding himself that Billy doesn't need to be in here. Either. The Bill is just like him billions of fine guy. He's not seeing what near stretch it knows about Billy that Billy does have actual problems. He's been denying that Billy has problems in then when Billy starts punching him in the face that should be a wakeup call that no you didn't need to get laid like this guy has problems there needs to be working on. I totally agree with you. I think Jack Nicholson learns the most about these characters in that very NC Quance because he's not learning about them individually. He's making like armchair expert. Determinations, and we talked about the music earlier. And I feel like Jack Nicholson's character is like everybody's affair men. And that's not good Fareham and let your freak flag fly. Yeah. And I feel like nurse ratchet and mcmurphy are the same. They want to create a world that feels right to them. Yeah. There's like everybody. Let's have some calming mashed potatoes. And he is like Saracho forever. One. Streak is the Russia. He is very much a teenager. And he's like Holden Caulfield of the Oregon state mental ward. He's a teenage guy who sleeps with teenage girls in the book nine years old. Oh, jesus. They sure from nine to fourteen. Yeah. I think fourteen seemed to little bit more accessible senior fifteen. Yes. I think nine would have been a real hard self yearly character. This is the second time we've had a movie age up the numbers of a statutory rape victim after clockwork orange. Oh, you're right. You're right. You don't think about this mcmurphy comes in? We don't actually have to see him hit on underage girl. We don't actually see him do any of the things he's been doing to get there. We don't see him starting that many fistfights really heat has a couple of towards the end. But he has a point when he stayed down on the diagnosis data militia play a little bit of the diagnosis scenery..
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Slate's Hang Up and Listen
"And always having cocacola and potato chips as she is getting prepared to introduce the the nascar races stephan you left out her honeydew legs tom wolfe great champion of of women but linda von we wanted to give her credit where credit is due stephan what is your linda von so i've been coaching my daughter's rec soccer team for eleven years now as you probably know nine of them all girls team the power the very first rule i imposed on parents on the power was this do not shout instructions that your or any other child cheer the girls keep it generic go power great job woohoo my approach to coaching has been similar encouragement compliments limited in game instruction keep everything positive it seems to have worked eight girls who were on the team in second grade are still on the team in tenth grade which for rec soccer is an excellent retention rate i think i've been a pretty good coach while i've shamed my parents into being chill i can't control other coaches and parents there was one guy in ele mentally school who never shut up volcanic eruptions when they scored a go criticized this players felt threatened by a talented girl in the power if she pushes you you push her back he shouted once that was good there was a woman coach of a boys team we played in sixth grade who with the game tied one to one screamed do you wanna lose two girls the woman coach and then there was the guy who never for not one second didn't shout instructions that his players telling them where to go and what to do and this was in highschool guy would walk on the field during played invade our bench area and continue his monologue one time one of my girls came up to me and said he's making me really uncomfortable fortunately he's not coaching anymore reforming youth sports parents and coaches who are living out their own wards bellichik fantasies is of course impossible it's like holden caulfield obser.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Show Me the Meaning!
"Most kiana who is that you know first of all another thing that people know but it's i it's so amazing that laurence fishburne kiana reeves and hugo weaving learned kung fu for this fucking movie that's amazing and i love how keno eve's like the time that he spent all of his training with yen whooping who is the fight choreographer it became a passion in his life and even today with john wick and the man of tai chi he still like one of the leading voices pushing action cinema too i mean basically action cinema in america that isn't just special effects and like huge spectacle is like kiana reeves is like one of the few warriors making sure it's still happens and fucking hats off to him for that so one of the thing i wanted to talk about i don't know if you guys agree or not but when i say that this is a piece of rebel art i and i think a lot of people and i'm curious if in your angsty teen years any of you guys experienced this too we kind of project onto neo especially in that first act if you're different or you see something other people don't see you in a sense in like a metaphor koi are waiting for morpheus to call you into tell you that your special and that the society around you is all quote phony like this is kind of a holden caulfield kind of movie for our generation and then when you consider that the witch house he's you know ended up getting like sex changes later on like this all kind of make some sort of sense in a weird way you know did any of you guys project onto neo like i did when i was a teen i projected onto the whole the whole scheme of the movie just the thought of it i you know being when it sunk about i know why you sit in front of your computer late at night i know why you don't feel like you get along with everybody while you feel like you're in his fake world i just you know i dug the whole theme of the movie yeah and being awake you know when he had when all the things started popping out of his out of his body and he's free now why why am is hurting because you've never used them before.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"Right and it's all about because he knows they're going to come and search the hotel room looking for stuff and he wants to make sure he can set the proper story right so after he was satisfied he left the room to meet his destiny i he stopped at a bookstore and picked up a copy of catcher and depen the open the cover even wrote on the first page this is my statement underlying the word this and then signed it holden caulfield the catcher in the right okay he then went to the dakota and started his daylong stakeout armed with a copy of catcher a copy of double fantasy and his thirty eight special loaded with five hollow point boat wins and it's sitting in the pocket of his jacket the entire day like sitting there he addresses himself in many many layers i mean obviously it was still cold out so it worked but he was trying to hide the gun but his hand was on the gun all day right waiting to go and no one thought this was suspicious even like pacing around or was he like dressed like a bush like your people there was a bunch of people staying in there too i see okay and there were other got like there was a guy there that was a photographer that pretty much made his living harassing john lennon i like mark david chapman made friends with him okay well that sounds like a good for him to make any annoying and the other thing that he did is he put a piece of cardboard in his pocket so it would hide the outline of the gun and his hand so no one actually knew that he had a gun so after that after he got there you know after all these coincidences they was one more coincidence to go in this one is true it might be the most amazing one of all so the dakota where john lennon lived was the setting of rosemary's baby and rosemary's baby was directed by roman polanski who was married to sharon tate who we all know owes murdered by the manson family and the manson family as far as chapman new were supposedly inspired by the beetle.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"Enjoy the outdoors crack open a fat tie belgian white and have a good afternoon so fine fat tire belgium white near you by using the beer finder link at www dot new belgium dot com that's www dot new belgium dot com well really like the big thing that chapman took from this book is that this world is filled with phonies and there's nothing worse than being a phoney and the reason why his life sucked was not because of his own flaws but because of phony okay cool makes a lot of sense mark david chapman was so obsessed with this book that he actually started to think of himself as holden caulfield he even tried changing his name to hold and call yes in he made his wife read a copy of the book in which he didn't scribed to gloria from holden caulfield maybe honestly maybe a comic con could have saved role play it out for a weekend comeback just bs dushi self once every six months you can actually be holding caufield how obnoxious would've salinger con wow i just want to be in the 'isolation house vip status there's only one vip ticket gloria just took the book because at this point she's watching him deteriorate so fast 'cause also one thing about chapman to is that he's been gaining fuck ton of way by by only drinking beer and milk and eating cookies like he's on a santa diet yes santos on december twenty six themselves just get hammered the diet begins today at kinser media.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"I don't know why but i just feel like he's enough you eat a phony no i'm my problem is is that it would be like ed sheeran myself in a psychotic break like watching my face mold with ed sheeran space and being like god to kill the problem to kill man i but i do not i do not mean at your in harm to walk free but no holden caulfield basically kicked out of his fancy private school forth as he's kicked out and the book follows a loss week in new york of holden caulfield wandering around with the stotts about how everybody's a phoney and a how he wants to protect the innocence of all children so we'd see him walking around and saying he sees a sex worker he asks a cop in central park where he can find the ducks because he wants to go walk with ducks because the duct so the only thing that are fucking free he sees another guy yells at him and he also them calls them phony but the problem is there's a really good at the end of let me take you down that's a good breakdown of holden caulfield are part of it is that when you do re re re read it it's it's interesting for someone who like chapman who viewed him as this powerful hero like viewed him as is sort of like a saint slash warrior for truth or then when you reread it again it's about a kid that is very deeply depressed and largely suicidal right you read it in the words where it's like someone is a his pain is very obvious and when you look at it you just see well this is someone who if they live past this point could become a very like effective cool adult because they had this questioning period but you're not supposed to identify with it now.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"Oh my imagination my depression like barely very rarely is the reader the hall oh no i don't know man i drink a lot and read i read hammered all the time what you read if you're i can't even remember a movie when i'm here time about the fun of reading can you imagine if lavar burton turned into a mass i could see it reading this two intense i was playing video game last night and i turn around and brooke is just bawling and i'm like what have i done and then she said i'm just reading this book and it's a sad part i said the words are making you cry well we gotta do something about them words any what you've never had words like bring emotion to your soul and you know what as soon as the book is trying to do pry that out of me tell you what are you you're a book i'll shut your i don't beat your ass with kisule's reading every word like it's like when you throw a rock down a cave in the bottom of the cave is when you're looking so by the time the word gets down to the cerebral cortex it's their emotion is gone out of here shut your mouth shut you right up neck renamo coty ain't gonna get me man early nineteen eighty chapman came across a collection of academic studies about catcher in the rye chapman had remembered reading the novel about eight or nine years earlier in remembered liking it so he figured he'd give it another go now all chapman wasn't quite ready for the first time around during his second reading something clicked in his brain concerning the main character and narrator holden caulfield but isn't the irony here that actually the first time you.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Championship Drive
"All of a sudden i became real talented after one shame moment wrote a bunch of things for two bs but this one like american pie or you know what i mean it just became this thing and who knows why but i'm sure sick peaceful we've got david baird on the line with us who wrote one shining moment of course union every single year at the end of the tournament it's the montage is the highlight and we were just saying this before we got you on the line david that there is this there's some people but the believe that because we all still love one shining moment and it doesn't drive us crazy yet and it hasn't it it's still not old to us that we should retire it while it's still on top like we should send it off like john elway with a super bowl ring and call careers what what do you think in terms of of where the song currently sits and where you'd like to see continue to go another great question every i mean this has happened since five years in in i i there's a there's a brand of people in the press i call him holden caulfield after catcher in the rye and and they five years in thaad well we're done with it i'm sick of that you know and they they trade on the title one shining moment complain about one chime on that and you know i think.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Izzy and Spain
"All of a sudden i became real talented after one shame moment wrote a bunch of things for two bs but this one like american pie or you know what i mean it just became this thing and who knows why but i'm sure tasteful we've got david barrett on the line with us who wrote one shining moment of course union every single year at the end of the tournament it's the montage is the highlight and we were just saying this before we got you on the line david that there is this there's some people that believe that because we all still love one shining moment and it does drive us crazy yet and it hasn't it it's still not old to us that we should retire it while it's still on top like we should send it off like john elway with a super bowl ring and call premiers to what what do you think in terms of of where the song currently sits and where you'd like to see continue to go another great question every i mean this happened since five years in in i i there's a there's a brand of people in the press i call them holden caulfield after catcher in the rye and and they five years in thaad while we're done with it i'm sick of that you know and they they trade on the title one shining moment complain about one china on that and you know i think i every time i hear it i think hey that sounds right so it i don't apologize that that that people still like it and then i'm sure there's people will put on jay z or whatever and that's how that's cool but at this point i think a lot of people like the song and you know and until they the people.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on Movie Crush
"It was just been stein that is so i had no idea well i do remember watching it with my end when i like the principle now or is vice principal yet ever jones yeah like he makes sense i feel i've become michelle i i had the same reaction with cat in the hat you know the fish is the un who's like what are you doing why like year here lending this stranger into the how and he's like causing chaos and you're not going to tell your parents i'm a the fish is a right so yeah i've become very old i've decided with your engine mr hand than you know you've crossed i read um i reread catcher and the rivalry reefs five or six years since i was probably 20 minutes just one of those books that i've had done then on purpose because i had heard that like your perspective can switch on it of engineering and the yeah i mean for sure i mean i don't know if it's switch so much i mean definitely when you're younger you know there's a little bit of the holden caulfield in many of us right the phonies of the world but sometimes it's reinforced as you get older right right right you know i have and rather than since i was holding costly lds age and lectured change that will yeah or maybe just wait for the big movie observer they ever make them no i don't think so i think that sort of the ad though mobile movie right yeah i guess so i don't know how they seem to show milat so uh watching videos we also going out to the movie theatres i guess here in new york i was i was a little yeah i remember uh yeah we we get high in go to the pink floyd's the wall that was a big memory nice very exciting midnight movie or just a nelson said they go show greg i had a curfew by wasn't that much of a rebel.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on The Thread with OZY
"Oh the y uh the media productions indian history books are filled with big names and big events but sometimes the most influential people are behind the scenes in the shadows across the dining room table sometimes just one chance encounter are one broken heart can change the course of history time sean braswell and this is the thread a podcast from media this season we pull the thread on the death of rock star john lennon and actually connected back to the communist leader vladimir lenin it here's a quick recap of our thread so far but please listen to the previous episodes if you haven't already john lilum it did not double climbed by young american as you were going into his home in new york december eighth 1980 mark david chapman fired five poets john lennon in front of the jakoda building in new york police have a suspect in custody whom they described only as a local screwball chapman was a disturb loaner and he was obsessed with the classic american novel the catcher in the ride by jd salinger chapman believe that he embodied the books main character holden caulfield and he railed against the phonies and hypocrites he saw everywhere including john lennon here's mark david chapman describing the morning of the murder to cnn's larry king i bought a copy of the katzrin arise signed it to hold and field from hold caufield and wrote underneath that this is my statement why would a character like holden caulfield speak to mark david chapman the answer has to do with the author j d salinger for one thing salinger's great novel was shaped by his own darken traumatic experiences as a soldier in world war two.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on The Thread with OZY
"Yet today the number again one eight date with will live in infamy the new yorker put historian hold in an april nineteen fortytwo salinger received his draft notice in reported for boot camp at fort dix in new jersey that same month owner received her own designation from new york society debutante of the year just a few months later in a left new york city to be a movie star in los angeles he knew he was losing her affections hurry he was losing her attention and one day while salinger was to a boot camp soaring the newspapers when o'neill had married charles chap and that's how we found out that the love of his life at least for the epa time had left charlie chaplin worldfamous movie star and more than thirty years her senior on june 16th 1943 the 18yearold owner where the fifty four year old chaplain at a justice of the peace she was his fourth wife salinger was crushed more than anything else he's humiliated because he has bragged to his family he has bragged to his friends hoon o'neil the famous who know neo is his girlfriend a man scorned zoo wars in a woman scored this is james scoville luna o'neill biographer when she married chaplain he sent a letter lewis awful letter it it to this vicious really vicious satire of how he imagines luna and charlie chaplin's wedding night complete with illustrations it was a notorious notorious letter when lashing out didn't make him feel any better salinger took another tech this ethanes is sort of romantic have nesia oh why never loved owner he says i forgotten all about will of course that's not the truth because only weeks before he told a friend i would mary owner tomorrow if only she would have me.
"holden caulfield" Discussed on The Thread with OZY
"And he's just head over heels and he's probably walking on clouds when he returns home to new york at the end of the summer it was a romance they would impact salinger for years he was obsessed with china he bragged about or to all his friends and family problem was he had trouble keeping up his parents were wealthy but he didn't have an allowance now salish arisen no he's our broke no one too and his dating the this this famous woman with a very famous father and the paparazzi are following him around and he is jerry next to her and he's trying to date this woman and take oh to these places that he can barely afford salinger wasn't the only one in love with o'neill many older more sophisticated and much wealthier men wanted in on their arm salinger he has this aversion to what famously will become known as phony moves and all these people were boats phonies you're gonna get so he has the simmering resentment all of these people who was who rounded luna and she craves to that attention salinger knew he couldn't keep this up long he had to be a published author published in the likes of the new yorker if he had any chance of keeping luna the new yorker was the epitome of success what any writer upshot short stores and salinger wanted to be published in the new yorker more than anything else so when it comes time to right at the end of the summer he doesn't just go home he checked into a hotel room in new york and begins to take out a shortstory this story a slight rebellion off madison is the first appearance of holden caulfield that's where holding and the catch when the rai are actually born out of challenges meeting with whom as the fall of forty one went on salinger felt luna slipping away which added to the urgency of getting published the new yorker had rejected seven of salinger stories but finally a slight rebellion was accepted it was scheduled to run in its christmas issue and then the japanese attacked pearl harbor.
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"And he was very nearly one of those numbers there were more than three thousand soldiers and salinger's regiment that went to heard can just over five hundred survived salinger was one of the lucky ones but his fighting was not over next came the battle the bulge the costliest engagement in us army history for over one hundred thousand american soldiers were killed more fighting in the forest more sleeping in frigid conditions hi tired of this drove an backward rate laid up a christmas at was the holiday season for soldiers dean forty four in april 1945 the winter thawed in salinger's divisions sighed with relief it appeared the worst was behind them then they came upon the concentration camps at dhaka salinger in his division flung open the gates and prisoners emerged wearing black and white striped suits and caps like skeletons in rags you could live a lifetime salinger later told his daughter and never really get the smell of burning flesh out of your nose to see that level of depravity that level of evil in the world has got to rocky you've has got to change you used writing throughout the war as a sort of self therapy as a way of dealing with the horrors of he he was witnessing and what he was going through it was almost as if he was clinging to writing as if it were normal suit it was something normal to him in a world that's gone insane.
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"Suen inskeep says it's likely that linens murder at the hands of mark david chapman only made salinger's paranoia worse i think he had were have been aware that if one crazy fan of mine committed this murder and killed this very famous person i could be next salinger's withdrawal from the world was all the more striking given his tremendous ambition as a young man his dreams of becoming exactly what he became a world famous writer how can a man turn his back on fame actually turned his back on fortune how could he stop publishing if you have a talent are you not obligated to share with the world so why did he turned his back on the world just as he was achieving his dreams salinger's retreat began well before lennon's death and even before catcher made him famous it wasn't just to avoid the media or his fans like many war veterans salinger was retreating from his own passed and the devastating trauma of combat the second world war who is without doubt the pivotal event of cell just whereas before the war all he wanted was fame and fortune and recognition after the war he's very leery of people he's very leery of crowds he sort of cowering from the world salinger didn't write much about world war two but one of the unpublished short stories he wrote about it the magic foxhole is mesmerizing in it salinger describes the scene he must have encountered on d day there wasn't nothing on the beach but the dead boy's of a and b company and some did sale boys and a chaplain it was cooling around looking for his glasses in the senate he was the only thing that was moving in eighty eight shows were brick wall around him and there he was.
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"Catcher has now sold more than sixty five million copies and even more than half a century after its publication it still sells around a quarter of a million books each year and while it never reached number one on the bestseller lists at the time of its release catcher caught fire thrusting the lanky handsome and darkhaired salinger still only thirty two into the public spotlight was something of a cult novel almost immediately and the attention of the press the attention of the media the attention of fans with something that sound you could not deal with and so he retreated he retreated to earn some place where he could write in solitude and keep to himself and for the most part keep the world that back salinger's withdrawal from society made holden's fictional protestations against modern life and phonies seem all the more real and catapulted catcher to even higher levels of popularity salinger would go on to publish many stories in the decade or so after catcher building worlds have damaged characters and families including the highly precocious children of the class family but all the while he retreated further and further from society until he decides he's never going to publish again and he doesn't he publishes his last store enacting sixty front but he never stopped to writing the mysterious genius crafting unknown masterpieces was just too much for the public to resist salinger was stock by media and fans throughout his time in seclusion those who ventured after him in the ensuing decades would encounter wall upon wall around the literary giant from notrespassing signs to a failing of lawyers ready to challenge any unauthorized use of his works or stories for more than half a century he declined interviews and shunned photographers saving one of the world's great entertainers of musicians john lennon of the beatles were shot outside his new york home.