36 Burst results for "Hogan"
The Breakdown
Hasta La Vista, USA! Crypto Companies Look Abroad
"Asta la vista U.S., love crypto. That quote, by the way, comes from a tweet from lawyer Jeremy Hogan. All right, so we kicked off the week covering coin desks tour of the UK. Brian Armstrong keynoted London FinTech week and had a number of conversations that were at once provocative, and at the same time, kind of completely obvious. In one interview, he said that, if the U.S. wasn't able to give regulatory clarity, coinbase would be forced to consider relocating. Armstrong also specifically called out the turf war between the CFTC and the SEC as part of the problem. Later in the week we of course got the hearings which I've now covered AD nauseam. But which basically showed just how partisan crypto regulation is getting, and how the U.S. fear in this domain is to quote congressional witness Austin Campbell, collapsing into chaos. Now this stood in stark contrast to the European Union, where on Thursday, the European parliament voted by a huge majority to pass the markets in crypto asset or Mika legislation, which is a landmark first comprehensive crypto legislation from a major global power. Austin Campbell again articulated the significance in stark terms. He writes, I told my class yesterday that Mika might be the most significant development in crypto for the next two years. The details work out, always TBD as they implement. The EU has created a framework to formalize how crypto works in the largest economic bloc to affect such rules. In the past, when Europe has taken these steps, normally they have been surpassed as a place for innovation by the United States. However, in this case, the hysterical response towards a new technology by U.S. regulators in some politicians means the EU has a massive advantage unless Micah is truly broken in ways I am not aware of yet in the short to medium term. The longer that advantage persists, the longer it will take to overcome if the United States ever manages to act, which I don't think is a foregone conclusion. Excellent bit of playing offense by the EU to get this done. And puts the UK in a position where they need to act fast or get left in the dust by the continent. It seems the future of crypto is no longer in North America.
Unchained
Fresh update on "hogan" discussed on Unchained
"Seek tools like Tornado Cash to maintain privacy without compromising blockchain technology benefits. Tapping on the privacy debate on blockchains, Luke Chang, CEO of Nocturne, told Unchained, quote, it's just very hard to imagine a future where everything is public by default. Time for fun, vips. So we just talked about Doe Kwan's bail, but let's now hear it from stand -up comedian Jenny Hogan. So disgraced Tara co -founder Doe Kwan is out on bail. That's right, his $428 ,000 request was approved by a court in Montenegro. Kwan and his CFO are now on house arrest in Montenegro, which is incidentally what a lot of people would call a vacation. Kwan couldn't get the bail until he verified that he owned property worth millions. To be fair, no one doubted that this claim was true. They just weren't sure if he met millions in Luna or millions in actual currency with actual value. The amount Kwan and his CFO both have to pay is approximately $200 ,000 each, which is incidentally the same as four years of private college. I think this is apt since in the last four years, it doesn't seem like either of them have learned shit. The bail is supposed to incentivize Kwan to stay in the country, which really shouldn't be an issue. Why would he leave? He's wanted in literally every other country. The pair is set to be monitored closely by the police in Montenegro, which to be fair seems like an appropriate job for a cop. Sure, have fun watching Kwan laugh his ass off while he spends the next two weeks counting his money and trying to beat S .B .F. at Diablo IV.
AP News Radio
Former top aide to Maryland governor dead after manhunt
"A former top aide to a Maryland governor is dead after an FBI manhunt. Roy McGrath was at one time the chief of staff for former Maryland governor Larry Hogan. He became the subject of a three week manhunt when the Florida resident failed to show up for trial in Baltimore on corruption charges on March 13th. Attorneys for his family confirmed that McGrath died Monday after a confrontation with FBI agents in a commercial area on the outskirts of Knoxville, Tennessee. An FBI email said McGrath was wounded during an agent involved shooting and taken to a hospital. He resigned in 2020 to 11 weeks into his job for Hogan and pled not guilty to an indictment in 2021. He was accused of lying about the governor's approval for a severance payment of over $230,000, as the head of Maryland's environmental service. In addition to allegedly embezzling roughly a $170,000 in expenses. Hogan said he and his wife were deeply saddened by this tragic situation. I'm Jennifer King
Mike Gallagher Podcast
Arthur Aidala: 'Never Play Politics With People's Lives'
"Arthur idala is one of the best lawyers in America. He's a New York City trial attorney, joins us from New York City where I will be in just a few hours to cover all of this next week in Lower Manhattan. What size free Trump T-shirt should I get you? Should I order you counselor? Well, I'm thinking it's probably going to, this is going to plot in the phrase Trump Frank Sinatra's mugshot, which is a pretty popular mug shot for decades, but I think Elvis Presley's got one out there as well. Look, I've lived in this world. I grew up in this world. My dad was an assistant district attorney in the Manhattan DA's office under the DA who was called Frank Hogan. He was there for three decades plus. And, you know, Frank Hogan had an expression and he said, never play politics with people's lives. And in this particular case, Alvin Bragg is not just playing politics with Donald Trump's life. He's playing politics with the American lives because on so many levels. But on the most obvious one is people may want to vote for him for president of the United States. Now this does not eliminate him from running for president of the United States. What it definitely puts up speed bump in his path. If anyone could turn lemons into lemonade, there's no one better at it than Donald Trump. He'll figure out as you just said, some way to make this mug shot into something positive for his reelection. But it's just not how the system is supposed to work, Mike. And that's the bummer of this hope.
Mark Levin
Mark Levin: You Are Not Safe in a Blue City or State
"If you're a Republican like a Christie or a sununu or a Hogan or whomever you're going to do just fine Because you're just a figurehead you're not going to fight hard to reverse the course of what the Democrats have done to this country They'll just slow roll you and that'll be that But in a matter like this this is how difficult it is to beat Washington to beat the administrative state to beat the Republican establishment this is a grotesque grotesque stalinist malice type action You've got a multi billionaire who is behind it Soros you've got an intellectually corrupt prosecutor We have prosecuted his running for office now Running to get votes by saying they're going to they're going to get Trump They're going to indict Trump This guy did it And the attorney general of New York did it You are not safe in a blue state You are not safe in a blue city That's the bottom line
Mark Levin
We're Going to Need Every Vote in 2024 to Win
"My concern is we're going to need every vote in 2024 to win Every dam one So we have some people Who literally support Russia and Putin and I went back and checked mister producer and they said they did They said they did Writing columns making statements whatever And rather than engaging in a debate in an argument they try to build their readership they have columns they try to build their presence Not through debate but trying to destroy constitutional conservatives trying to make up something new Populism nationalism And they are going to elect Joe Biden or a Democrat Because there's not enough of them They're not intellectuals They think they are They're not opinion leaders They think they are They're in a small circle Their circle They talk to each other That's number one Number two I don't do this show or any show Trying to score points against potential candidates who I like In other words if it's a Larry Hogan or Chris Christie you know screw those guys I'm talking about conservatives I just do things differently
Mark Levin
Manhunt for Former Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan's Ex-Chief of Staff
"Manhunt begins for ex Hogan aid after he skips court appearance I said wait a minute Not the Hogan Larry hog Authorities launched a manhunt this week for former Maryland GOP governor Hogan's ex chief of staff Roy McGrath following his failure to appear in federal court McGrath faced the charges of wire fraud Embezzlement and falsification had documents In connection with his obtaining of $233,648 in severance payment from the Maryland environmental service according to the whole newspaper McGrath resigned a few months into his service in Hogan's office Allegedly attempted to make a look as though Hogan had authorized the payout So that he could join the Hogan administration McGrath was pleaded not guilty He was scheduled to appear Before a U.S. district court in Baltimore Maryland at 9 a.m. on Monday his lawyer Joseph murta appeared unaware of the reason for McGrath absence saying we're doing what we can to make sure Roy is safe And we see him soon CBS News reported law enforcement did not locate a minimum to Florida home per the Washington compost The U.S. marshal service considers him a fugitive issued a wanted poster And this guy doesn't look like he can stay on the run for long mister producer Now and I'm looking for any comments by Larry Hogan He runs a tight ship You might be aware that I think the captain of the Titanic runs tight ship two
The Doug Collins Podcast
Tiger Woods' Ex-Girlfriend Suing Over Acrimonious Split
"Woods is by far without a doubt the most amazing golfer in the last of all of golf. I mean, look, Nicholas Hogan wise vaults and all of the great great golfers. Woods and his prime, knowing touching. Nobody. I mean, just ungodly, okay? But the man has absolute no concept, it seems like of how to deal with all the course. And James, today, we start off Friday's finest with he's being sued and I'm not trying to be funny here. You know, for our folks listening to James, but I've read several stories and I don't mean to imply something nefarious, but I've heard her described as a girlfriend and then I've heard her say she suing is an she was an employee. And non disclosure agreements. I mean, how can somebody be so good on a golf course in so absolutely horrific in the rest of life? His social life, what's fascinating and hello everybody. What's fascinating about Tiger Woods is up until was it 2009 was the Thanksgiving incident? Am I getting that right about? Yeah, roughly when all the when the fact that he was competing with Wilt Chamberlain for the I've made it more. It's amazing that like for that lasted so long the heat again he was like, married, happy I'll buy everything was great and then it all went to hell. Since then, it's been crazy off the court. I mean, off the course. This story is amazing. The story is that he told his girlfriend or whatever she is, I'm trying to find it too. I can't get a straight answer. To get her out of the house, he told her to pack a bag and meet him at the airport, and then he locked the door. He changed all the locks on the doors. That's fascinating to me.
AP News Radio
Ex-Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan won't challenge Trump in 2024
"One of the potential Republican challengers to former president Trump's 2024 election bid has announced he's not running for president. Former Maryland governor Larry Hogan a moderate politician had long positioned himself as an alternative to Donald Trump in 2024, but he's told The New York Times he has no desire to put his family through another grueling campaign just for the experience, noting that he would be an underdog. Donald Trump at the conservative cpac convention blasted anti Trump Republicans. We had a Republican Party that was ruled by freaks, neocons. Globalists, open border zealots, and fools. In his speech, he vowed to expose, quote, rhino Republicans, and seek retribution against those who are, quote, destroying the country. For those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution. Former UN ambassador Nikki Haley and businessman Perry Johnson are challenging Trump's presidential bid several others are expected to soon enter the race. I'm Jackie Quinn
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Hogan Gidley: Was It a Mistake for DeSantis to Miss CPAC?
"Was a mistake for desantis not to be here this weekend? Well, look, I understand two sides of this. One is when Donald Trump's part of anything and someone just told me it's not cpac anymore to tea pack. And I said, I understand that. He sucks the oxygen out of everything. Because of his personality, but also now he has a record to stand on. So why would you want to come into an arena where you're kind of second fiddle third fiddle fourth foot or whatever you may be? But at the same time, you miss an opportunity to see all the people, as I mentioned, who will be responsible for getting you elected should you become the nominee. And so I understand on both sides, but look, there's plenty of time next year cpac is going to be rocking. It's going to be, you know, full swing election year and we'll have to see what happens then. What any impressions, anything the early stands out so far because this is sort of that off year off season, and still big crowds. Very big crowds. It just seems like every year it gets bigger and bigger and more excitement and more excitement, the slaps have done a great job obviously I worked with mercy. We shared a wall actually in The White House and worked with Matt for years and they've helped build something on the backs of the people out there who really were looking to go in a direction to put the America first policies back in place to improve their lives. We've seen that in the last several years, you don't have to point all the way back to Reagan anymore. You can just say two years ago we had all these successes and so I think the people here are excited. It always blows my mind how engaged they are. They know the issues. And they're ready to see what happens to the future of this country. Some of the
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
The Republican Presidential Race Is Wide Open and Wild
"Donald Trump is headed to east Palestinian tomorrow and Ron DeSantis was in New York City yesterday, giving a speech about crime and punishment in the United States. The Wall Street Journal notes that Donald Trump Ron DeSantis to court big money donors at dueling Palm Beach events. Look, the campaign is underway. Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis and Mike Pompeo and many, many others. Marilyn former Maryland governor Larry Hogan, current Texas governor Greg Abbott, I think senator Tim Scott from South Carolina and others will be in this race, I think, by the start of it on the debate side in July or August of this summer. And it's going to be just wide open and wild and full of interesting people saying important to cut number
Mark Levin
Ron DeSantis Is Engaged in the Battle of American Culture
"At the center this is coming under withering attack Why Why at least from the Democrats and the media The reason is he's engaged in the battle Over the American culture He is one of the few politicians who gets it McConnell doesn't get it His leadership team they don't get it Hogan doesn't get it sooner doesn't get a Christie doesn't get it I can go down a long list They don't get it which means should they ever get somewhere Let's hope they don't We will lose the fight Who is the fighter of the classrooms and the brainwashing We will lose the fight over CRT ESG DEI and all the rest of it We will lose the fight Desantis is a smart guy Not just because he's Harvard educated because he's a smart guy And he works as hard as hell I happen to know that And he'll study data as he did with the COVID-19 and he'll come to his own conclusions That said he understands Marxism He understands what we talked about last night The effort to change standard language standard English Indoctrination The war on the nuclear family And he has fought them For which he's been attacked by sono Christie Hogan
The Charlie Kirk Show
The 2024 Horse Race
"Landscape is developing. And it's going to be a very long, tiring primary. A year from now, we're going to be right in the middle of it. And so we have Nikki Haley, who is officially announced him Scott, who looks like he's going to run Mike Pence, who's probably going to write, run Mike Pompeo, who's probably going to run. Whispers are that friend of the show, Vivek Rama Swami. Might run for president. And then, of course, Donald Trump is running. I think all of this helps Trump. All of this strengthens Trump's case. For 2024, Donald Trump running for the presidency, standing against neoliberalism, open borders, silly trade deals, and interventionist foreign wars is how he will differentiate himself amongst many other things, obviously. The fact that he was actually president, he got a lot done. These people say they're running for president. Nikki Haley says she's running for president Tim Scott says he is running for president, but in reality they are running against Donald Trump. That is the reality, but they're not going to say it. They're not going to try to insult Trump voters, but they are going to be running against Donald Trump. And I actually think that helps Trump. I think Trump will be able to navigate that successfully. The more kind of targets the better and they're going to start attacking each other because they're going to try to fill up the different lanes. Now whether or not Ted Cruz is going to run for president, that will be interesting if Marco Rubio run for president that will be interesting. We'll Glenn youngkin run for president. Will Greg Abbott run for president? These are all very interesting questions. Will Larry Hogan run for president? I think all of it helps Donald Trump
America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
Kurt Schlicter and Seb Assess the GOP Presidential Primary Field
"Talk about primaries. I like primaries. I think you're conservative. I know you're an American. I like the idea of, you know, 1617 people getting into a ring duking it out, toughest guy at the end is left standing. Why are some people irrespective of what camp you fall into, the neoliberal neocon maga rhino, whatever. Why do they think they have to decide who the candidate is two years before the election? I know I'm an immigrant curb, but I'm a little confused. No, no, no. You are absolutely right on this. And that's why I refuse to tell anybody. You should vote for X because I don't first of all, I don't think anybody needs to be told who to vote for. I think they need to figure it out themselves. I think a primaries the way to do it. We've got some incredible candidates, as well as Nikki Haley. And sorry, so can you say that sentence again? We've got some incredible candidates as well as Nikki Haley. And you know, they've got a standard fall and that goes for the president. That goes for Ron DeSantis. That goes for Mike Pompeo, who I think his foreign policy, America first foreign policy stuff is really good. I want to see what he has to say domestically. But that's the purpose of a primary. Let's get out there and see. Now, you've got some people muddying up the waters. Asa Hutchinson? Yeah, my God. I expect him to utter land negotiation. And then get back in the chuck wagon and cook up some beans for the rest of the cabin. Larry Hogan. Larry. What? Hogan mania? Who's the guy who's the guy who isn't Larry Hogan, who wants Larry Hogan?
The Dan Bongino Show
Prediction: Larry Hogan Will Finish Behind Trump & DeSantis in Maryland
"Started out covering the primary Now we have a primary in the GOP side Nikki Haley's in Donald Trump's in Now you got a contest Now it's an official one We're assuming around desantis is going to get in It seems highly likely Pompeo is going to get in Tim Scott appears likely to Hilariously so Larry Hogan claiming he's going to get into former governor of Maryland If he does I'll make a bet with you now I rarely do this because predictions are for idiots because you always obviously open yourself up to being humiliated But I'm pretty confident in this one Jim can you mark the date today is what is it The 13th the 14th two 35 p.m. Eastern Time Sorry if you listen on the light they say never say the time on the air some people listen on delay Well we like to break every rule anyway It seems to have led to a successful show but I'm going to predict if Larry Hogan does get in the race And manages to stay in until the Maryland primary which I doubt will even happen I'm going to predict that Larry Hogan finishes behind In his own state of Maryland both Trump and desantis So I'm making that prediction now Okay We'll see Again this requires a lot of different variables Hogan to get in number one which I think he's just bluffing He knows how to get smoked in a ruinous political career He'll be out by New Hampshire It requires him to stay until Maryland which I doubt And it requires him to have money to stay in to Maryland which no serious donor is going to give to Larry Hogan The guy is the king the monarch of all rhinos
The Dan Bongino Show
Amber Athey: Predicting the 2024 Presidential Field for Republicans
"Is it really good analysts to this stuff of the 2024 field for the presidency on the Republican side that's starting just at the initial stages of materializing now Appears very likely Nikki Haley is in looks like potentially Tim Scott as well based on some of his moves It looks pretty clear at this point Ron DeSantis going to jump in Donald Trump is already in of course Larry Hogan's making some moves Governor of Maryland How do you see this playing out I mean it was clear last time and it's pretty clear now that Donald Trump at a minimum still seems to have a pretty significant plurality And the way the primary systems are set up you know plurality or winner take all in a lot of these states If the field stays large Trump is basically going to run away with it I think Yeah I think that's probably right I heard Larry Hogan saying in an interview the other day that because the squabble is starting between Trump and desantis that that leaves another lane open for the either never trumpers or Trump skeptics I guess they would call themselves But that just feels like 2016 all over again to me That was sort of the hubris that a lot of the field had when running against Trump was he was going to aim his cannons and have all these personal attacks against the other candidates And then the same rational voices could rise above the fray and everyone would take them seriously but it was actually the opposite that happened So I see a similar kind of attitude shaping up around 24 and it just is a reminder that a lot of these guys still won't get it
The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
Who Is Watching the Eyes of the CCP?
"You received an invitation or you asked for an invitation to speak to the Republican governors associated to the national governors association. NGA. And they said, huh? And you showed up and you told them that each of them had been classified by the Chinese government, that got their attention. When you tell the audience a little bit about that story, which they've got to read in full to appreciate, but the CCP has a file on every governor and they are classified. So I had seen hints of this when I was a CA director, but I became Secretary of State. I was able to see it more clearly. And I was able to get this document declassified. It was written nominally by a Chinese think tank. But what they've done at the direction of the Chinese Communist Party was to continue to evaluate all 50 governors of the United States of America. And they would rank them. Friend foe or were working on them. And by the time I got it to classify, I'd also noted that there was a meeting in Washington, D.C., where all the governors would be. And so I called governor Hogan and then governor of New York, Cuomo, and asked for 20 minutes. They gave me 20 minutes on a Saturday afternoon. It was pretty sleepy day. But when I began to lay out for them the fact that the Chinese Communist Party was watching them, observing them, running influence operations against them and had measured them, had raided them, essentially said, do we have them in our pocket yet or not, boy, I had their attention. They all, they all turned immediately to their devices or to their chiefs of staff and says, hey, I got to have a copy of that. I got to know where I am. And I wanted them to just be a little taken back, but mostly I wanted to remind them that this isn't just an attack on our federal government. It is at every level of our government today that the Chinese Communist Party is conducting its assault against our freedoms.
Mark Levin
Chris Sununu: Can't Win With Trump; DeSantis Should Stay in His Lane
"Christina is not one of them Chris sununu the few times I've seen him on TV I always looks like he's on a sugar high like he's 5 years old And he worked his way up the ladder standing on his father's shoulders to become governor of New Hampshire And we'd love to know Hampshire here Yes we do all a New England Anyway He is a fairly liberal Republican Like Larry Hogan Chris Christie those three need to get together Preferably not on a boat or anything because I think they would kill the weight limit Thought you must finish it But somewhere maybe at a deli And decide who is going to fall on their sword to represent the wing of the Republican Party that has about 14 members Most of them are From The Lincoln Project But nonetheless Chris sununu I don't know what the hell he's ever done I don't know what he's done But they're using them now as they use Hogan as they use the cape May orca To attack desantis So they see Trump at the Santa says the greatest threats And Chris sono has announced that we can not win with Trump And even though desantis is a pretty good guy you know he needs to stay in his lane Now what do I mean by that But what does he mean by that And of course mediaite AKA mediocre right they love these republiques They hang on their every syllable
America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
Julie Kelly Recounts What J6 Defendants Have Been Forced to Say
"Talk to us some of the next things I'm going to ask you to recount is somebody who's followed the case is gone to the courts, our listers will not believe so I'm going to ask you as a witness to them to recount what you have seen the January 6th defendants be forced to say what their defenders, their attorneys have forced them to say, which are political statements which could be ripped out of the history of the red guard in Maoist China or any show trial behind the iron curtain. So give us some of the totally anti American, not un American, anti American things that are happening in courts just a couple of miles from this studio, Julie. So I've said repeatedly and to your point, if I do decide to write a follow-up book. There's no if there's no if about it, Julie Kelly, we need you to do that. Well, one of the primary reasons why I would undertake that task is to call out the real villains in all of this stuff and those are the judges who sit on the D.C. district court. Regardless of who appointed them and I'm talking about Trump appointees, Obama Clinton all the way down to Reagan, as I said, Tom Hogan, who have acted as nothing more than a rubber stamp for this vengeful prosecution by Joe Biden's Department of Justice holding people behind bars as they delay their trials, denying them bail. Simply because they all consider these people not even dissidents they be treated better, but domestic terrorists. So what's happened is for a lot of these people desperate to move on with their lives. Is basically apologizing to the court in some cases writing letters, acknowledging what some public defenders have asked for. Acknowledging their white privilege, condemning the systemic racism of America saying they were duped by Donald Trump by social media by anyone saying that the election was stolen or rigged.
The Jim Ross Report
"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"Michael stopped out hoping once was sweep ten music. If he doesn't hear again, you remember forever. This is the American way. The expression, the Dallas, the challenging yourself to get a dog. He got it. Every county. But get about it. Oh my God. I can't believe it. Nobody kicks out the sweet champion. Nobody but the immortal. Look at him. Here comes the eagles music. You've got everything you needed to do. Yes. They want it. You better give it to them Hogan. Recovers. Holden Kimmy. Here it is. Hogan Williams. All
The Jim Ross Report
"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"So cash and creative got us again. And, you know, this is in a situation where it wasn't where you could just blow up the payroll to take make sure hulk will take care of because we had that deal with a lot of guys. They were making big money and were used to make a big money. And we couldn't rob Peter to pay Paul. So payoff was legit based on what was being drawn. And that was a good enough for, apparently. Well, and I'll be honest, I don't think that that was necessarily the case early on. I think Vince took care of, oh yeah, of hulk early on in ways that weren't necessarily relative to what he really drew. She gave him happy. Yeah, keep me happy. And that was an ongoing full-time gig, keeping all traffic. So hog's gone now. He's noticeably absent at WrestleMania 20 Hall of Fame. I've always described because I used to hear, man, you know, I first started working with hulk in 93 negotiating with him a 94 working together. And I spent a lot of time with hall. Personally, professionally. Yeah. And everything in between. And I learned early on that there was a weird love hate relationship between Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon that I am confident I'm a 100% confident as I sit here and talk to the man I respect, the voice of professional wrestling. When I say to you, I am a 100% confident that that love hate relationship exists to this very moment. Just be a good conversation I had with him the other day. But he's gone WrestleMania 20 boom percent on the ground up and then he's back to following areas inducted into the Hall of Fame in Los Angeles. What do you remember about that? This kept trying to create a relationship. And maybe I should better said he kept trying to recreate the dynamic that Vince had with Hogan. Hence all the second chances and next starts and the hall of fames and here's another reason we can bring him back, et cetera, et cetera. So this kit frying to accomplish what you said earlier that idea that ideally like relationship that they once had. And they both were not willing to say, we can never have it the way we used to. But we could have it better than we have it now. If we both try. And that was always the or the jury was out. Is this going to work out? Or are we going to get to where we want to be? Or are you somebody in this equation willing to compromise something? And that was what the issues were compromised. Because again, you get to compromise and you change things. And a talent says, well, the compromise is making me look weak. So, you know, because you got to give it a chance. If the glass is always half empty, it's always going to be half empty. Yeah. And so you got to look at it differently. And that's the kind of I feel bad for grants at times because he really wanted the relationship to get back on a somewhat of an even keel. It may never be like it used to be. But he wanted to be better than it is, and I'm not sure we ever accomplished that. What did you think about Hogan's mash with Shawn Michaels? Pleasantly surprised. I thought Sean tips and liberties. I thought Sean was a little lighthearted and being a wise asset times in that situation. But the ego was such that he can not have a bad match that reflects negatively on him and that certainly would have. I thought the mass is pretty damn good. I've quite frankly. And my uncle said to gear back a little bit because of the pace of Michael's pace and Michael's pace and Hogan's face for an entirely different. It's much like Kurt Angle in the Hogan master we talked about, it was just different. And the tasting was different. Psychology was different. So I thought that they had a good match. And I was not surprised that it was a good match. Because of the egos involved, Michael didn't want to go out there and say, hey, I had this great match with Hogan. Can you? I can't. I'm good. And that's kind of where I saw that. That situation. But it was the match that had to be booked. There was a new hit boy versus the legend had to be booked at some point. You just hope that the damn thing was going to be a good solid match. And thanks to the professionalism of both guys and Hogan had reasons to be wary because Sean has taken this thing very light heartedly because I've all rolling on working with Hogan and I, you know, whatever. It's just a different generation, generational thing, man. And a good young guys like Sean at that time need to realize you wouldn't even be here in this position to make it all this money. It would have been for a guy named Hulk Hogan. Steering steering the course. And a lot of guys don't want to admit that. They were jealous. And they didn't want to give Hogan a credit that he deserved. I always gave the credit that he deserved. I really did. Whether I liked his style of wrestling, Hogan has a formula. Cowboy Bill wants to come out of retirement once a year. At a formula, you know, you just JYD when he wrestle. He had a small moose set, but he had a formula. And it worked.
The Jim Ross Report
"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"Them in those two positions. And all of a sudden you hear the music for Hogan and you'd think that I always offer compare it that Hogan fans like eagle fans. Not fairly eagle, but The Rock group, the eagles. They just want to hear hotel, California, one more time. Isn't that the best way to say it, brother? You're right on the money. They want they want a leg drop and a hook up and some of his traditional things. But they won't hotel California that one more time. And if they could hear that, they'll be happy. But is it true with Steve Austin or Ric Flair? Yeah, undertaker. It's so funny. And I get frustrated to the point of almost being angry, but I talk myself out of it. Is, you know, wrestling fans are so fickle in the sense that there'll be so anti legends, right? I can't believe they're so reliant on bringing this guy back. I can't believe they're bringing this guy in. He's too old. But man, the audience, not the little microcosm of people that bitch about shit on Reddit or write about stuff and think they're smart. But I'm talking about the people that just love to watch Russell because it's an escape and it brings them a sense of joy and fun. Man, when you bring back a Hulk Hogan, and you bring back a John Cena, you bring back a Steve Austin. That's exactly what you're saying. You hit it right on the head. They just want that feeling that they had the first time I heard hotels. Exactly. Or the first time they got laid while they were listening to the hotel California. That's the deal, man. They don't want to see a whole show, but man, it feels good to go back and visit that one more time. Yeah, that's right. And ironically, when we were in Vegas, three or four weeks ago for a pay per view, AEW pay per view. Out there, we saw the eagles concert. They were playing in Vegas on the Saturday night while we were there. The papers on Sunday, we had TV on the Wednesday Friday, and then that was an off night. So Dan Lambert, who owns America's top team, one of our guys, he so hooked up with all the casinos for ciders. That he got us some tickets. Raphael Morphy and I went along with Tony chem and my Kyoto and they had never seen the eagles in concert and they were blown away. They were saying, I guess a lot of people say, I knew the words to every song. Yeah. So they recognized the leg drop. They recognized the big booth. They recognized that hooking up. The same deal. It's the same theory. And so it was kind of ironic that he said as an example, because I'm a big eagles fan. And I saw multiple times, we both loved them. We went through the Glen fry years and now the, what's the cost name of Oklahoma, Vince Gill years, who's absolutely phenomenal. I thought they lost Don Henley. They say you can't replace these guys. Replace anybody. If they're good. And this feels really good. So that's kind of what I saw that deal. And we're deviating too far down the rabbit hole of rock and roll music, but I think that's a good example for Hogan. He's got those hits. He's got gold records on the wall. As Joe Walsh would say, and he's a classic. And you know what? The eagles in whatever configuration, I think Glenn Frey's son is now he was on there for a while. He lived. But he wanted to rode you up for a year or two after his dad died. And now he's on his own. So, but they've still got an all star team. They still got ten of the Schmidt. They still got Glenn Frey. And maybe the most important element of all this still got Joe Walsh. And so they still got their band. And they're still very good in the entertainment. And they could make up their mind tomorrow morning that they wanted to her again and they would be selling out in their current configuration in any venue they decided the book. Yeah, and we felt the same from the same characteristics of personality characteristics for hulk. He's a legend and some people will buy a ticket to go see him to take a kid and they can show that kid who they are hero was when they were the kids age. So I thought that was pretty, I don't think that's pretty cool. And a logical, I think that's right. A lot of people say, this is a God daddy loved. So, you know, and I think there's something to be said for that too. Before we get, we're going to have to wrap this up here in another couple of minutes, but I want to speed up just a little bit, talk about a couple bullet points, I guess, at this point, as we're kind of going through now, Hogan's return to WWE leaves WWE comes back to WWE. We got this mister America character. I hated it when I saw it. I was embarrassed by it for Hogan. That he was doing it. But I also knew it was probably his idea or at least he was excited about it because he loves that kind of hokey corny shit. Was that Vince's idea was idea? Whose idea was that? I think it was a collaborative effort, Eric between the two, but then certainly supported it and liked it, thought it was entertaining. And so that's kind of that deal. But yeah, we thought he blows out the door again, presumably, I don't even know. I never asked him. I never paid attention to the dirt sheets or whatever, but supposedly it's because of pay, was it a pay issue? Apparently, I've always said this when talents get unhappy. Are they want to leave or they do leave? Or whatever, it's usually one of the two seas.
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"So weird. It's strange and unnecessary. But we did that all down time. And I thought it was wrong to start. I still think it's wrong. Yeah, it's a weird thing. And my end of that equation, it didn't really bother hulk, you know? I'm sure for the people of WWF who were doing it. Oh man, he's really reacting just like they probably thought they were going to get to Ted and Ted laughed. He thought it was funny. The billionaire Ted skits. I think Randy may be in a little more offended and hurt than hulk. Didn't really give a shit to be honest. It didn't faze him. At least if it did, he didn't sell it. Yeah. But he's good about Nino over the years. He's been good about no selling things. Yes, indeed he was. Yeah, he wouldn't sell it, but he wouldn't forget it either, right? Right. Correct. I'm not going to sell it for you, brother, but I'll never fucking forget it. That's right. That's right. So he's around for a minute. We're talking about 2002. Brock excuse me, rock. Hogan talked a lot about that on your podcast. Abrupt end, man. After losing to Brock Lesnar, boom, he's gone, how weird is that? It's hard to swallow. It seems wrestling is better with Hogan in it. For us, at that time, I thought that anyway, I thought he would help our Ross. Did you see it coming? Did you have a sense? I had a little sense that he was not happy with his positioning. He wanted to be the guy, the one and only guy, and we weren't in the position to make that commitment. Because we did have rock. We did have Lesnar and Austin in and out the injuries and so forth. So Triple H is getting hot. Mick Foley hit was drawn doing well. So we had other guys, so we had to build continued to build. And he wanted to be the guy, and I don't think it was ever intended for him to be the guy, which is hard for a guy that was the man in the whole business to swallow sometimes. It's a little bit like Randy, I think, in a way, and I kind of understand this, you know, obviously I've never been in a position like Randy or hulk or rock or anything like that. But I think you and I both have been around enough people that have been in those positions that we understand that in their minds, they can still do this shit. Oh yeah. In their minds, they're still 25 or 30. In their minds, what they can do out in the ring is still more than enough to maintain those positions because you don't see yourself the way the audience sees you. Right. It's kind of like, you know, walking by a mirror, you know, you don't quite see the same image in the mirror that other people see. It's a tough thing for performers. I think that's why so many professional athletes, you know, just have a hard time retiring. Right. You don't need the money. You know, Floyd Mayweather doesn't need the money, but I need the same. And in the adulation, they just loves the juice. It's the rush of it all. It's hard to get that needle out of your arm. There's no other way to get it. No, that you're doing it. Keep doing it. So how can it comes back? What does he come back in February of 2003? What were your thoughts about him coming back? Hopeful that we would catch lighting in a bottle. Was it worth the gamble? We thought so. But we weren't sure what we were going to get. A lot of it was always going to depend on his two things. His attitude and his health. And so the attitude, you didn't know until you got there and the health was something we knew. We just had to deal with. And that was a matter of monitoring his how he worked. How often he worked, who he worked with, et cetera, et cetera. That's why a lot of people thought that we spoke earlier about the match that Hogan had with Kurt Angle. It was too polar opposites, but they ended up having a good match with their total violence story. But that was what you got to you're always curious about. You can Hogan still have those matches. And he answered that question. He could have the smashes. And I was always happy for him and proud of him that he came through when a log that he didn't have it left. And he had plenty left. Do you think he came through? I mean, he came back to set up the rematch with rock. I had no way out. And then went on to Russell Vince at WrestleMania 19, Seattle. Do you think he lived up to the hype? I think how we lived up to the expectation? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, he did. The match that Hogan had with rock and WrestleMania in Toronto was pretty classic to be honest with you. You know, Lawler and I had Hogan was a heel going into it. Brock was the young filippi baby face. So we're sitting, we're in our spots ready to
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"So Jim, we're going to skip forward a lot because now we're going to go right past one day that wars, Hogan turn, the impact that had, the reaction to all that, maybe we'll do that on another show because that's a show unto itself really, but we don't see Hogan back in WWE and it's a February of 2002. Were you party any of those discussions before reaching out to hulk? I mean, did you invent talk about that at all? Yeah, yeah, of course. We just thought he still had value. Unlike some of his peers, or his perspective new teammates, who thought that it was over, but what they really thought was that they didn't want the competition, because they knew that he was still over at the name had great value. Great name identity. I mean, my God, he's the most famous restaurant history. And he still walking around and able to do what you think. So we felt like if he was booked properly, not overexposed. He had value for us. It was just a matter of where his head was and how big a commitment he wanted to make, reentering the game. That's kind of where I saw it. You know, he's getting back in the game after a little hiatus. And you know, he's not a young kid. He's not perfectly healthy. He said all those back surgeries as we've mentioned endlessly. So, you know, that was we were optimistic that it was going to work. And he would be a nice component to add to the mix. He's Hulk Hogan. He's always going to be Hulk Hogan. And Vince and I understood that. And we said that to each other a lot. But a lot of the talents thought he could never be the same. And you know, and here's the funny thing about it. We never have asked him to be the same. You have to he had limitations. So be smart, recognizes the limitations, and booking accordingly. It's not that hard if you're just willing to, if you're talents willing to acquiesce that they're not perfect and they're not, they have to have a little bit of booking help. A little sizzle need to be added to their formula. Little humility, yeah. Yeah, but we thought he has, we just seriously thought he could still come in and pop a house or something up. And if nothing else, those guys need to understand if your book might be in a situation where you're putting you over. Or you're voting him over. But you got to work together. And we believe that it was worth the experiment was worth a chance. Jim, I just jumped ahead to 2002 because that's what hulk made his way back. But there was a point in time, I think it was around 96 or 97. I don't even 97, I remember nitro was in Denver. And how can I, you know, hung out all afternoon, got along great, shared addressing room, probably had a couple pierce during the evening while we were working, things were going great. We were on a pretty good role. And hulk told me that night, you know, early in the evening, he goes, hey man, I just want you to know, I'm meeting with Vince McMahon tonight. Vince is flying into Denver to meet with me after nitro. And he said to me, he goes, look, I'm just going to meet with him. I'm going to be here because I think we were up. We were either coming up close to renewing hulk or at least talking about it. So there was a window of opportunity there. And hulk did he really did convince me that I'm going to meet Vince, don't worry about it. I'm not going anywhere. Were you a part of that discussion? No. I didn't know about it. Yeah. But I wasn't part of what, you know, Vince had a vision. And he had a he had a thought. He thought he had this thing down. He thought he had the Hulk Hogan conundrum is solved. But he didn't share a lot of that stuff with me. And so he didn't share a lot of stuff with anybody. He just wanted to get this deal done and he was very adamant about that. And he knew how fickle a senior wrestlers are. Senior star wrestlers are, you know, they don't want to change. It's not good for them. At least in their minds high. So, but I didn't have a set down with him before he went to Denver. No. So hulk's back now in 2002, how weird is it after you'd spent a little bit of time kind of burying hulk like everybody else? Positioning was an old man. Weird. Yeah, weird. It was weird. And we can, you know, he was, it was, you know, the billionaire Ted stuff, and then Hogan is impersonations are not very flattering. And it was odd. He has almost, I was kind of embarrassed that we had done so much shit to his character for no reason. See, I'm not a big fan of Eric of putting, if I'm running, if I'm on raw, I don't need to see nitro footage or talk about nitro or
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"It was a really rough night, pretty much everybody was in a decent mood. It's the end of the day. Everybody's drinking wine, music's cranked up, especially if Shane was on the plane. If Shane McMahon was on a plane, then the music was listening to fucking AC/DC. Very loud morning. Yeah, and everybody's singing along with it. But I was hung out in the back of the plane. It was like me and miss Surrey and Bruce Pritchard and a couple other, you know, maybe a writer or two would be back eating sushi drinking wine. I didn't mind it, but man, those mornings, getting there in the morning when man comes screaming up in his fucking Bentley slams on the brakes, does his little. NASCAR slide up right up to the stair to the plane and gets out of course. He's all tense, ready to go. He's always at tension all the way to the way to the venue. But flying home wasn't bad, but I preferred to fly. I didn't get to fly commercial, but I always had to fly with Vince, but they had only lasted four months, but I don't know if I could have done it. This is daunting to say the least it's all predicated on what kind of mood he was going to be in. And it's going to be willing to listen to another idea. It's going to be willing to compromise, does he hate to show him, start to finish? Are we starting all over? Sometimes you go to find you start all over. And the writers have already written this ten hours and hours, and they have meetings that met with him. Signed off on and all of a sudden, boom. Yeah, you met with him up until 1 o'clock in the morning, like 6 hours before he had to beat in the airport. Right. And he decided he didn't want to okay, great. All right, that's it. That's what we're going to do. And then you have these poor bastard interns are showing up at 4 o'clock in the morning, printing all this shit off, so it's ready to go to the plane by 8 o'clock in the morning. And again, on a plane and he wants to know if we're going to change all that. Bullshit. Change his mind on the drive from his house to the airport. Do I find? It's just, you know, it happened all the time. It just had to be prepared for it. So if you could be prepared for it. But let's get back to Hulk Hogan. You and I will go off a whole different. We'll do an entirely different show. Okay. So Hogan's been around that now. He's on his way out. He's gone. No more Hogan. The trial is going on. That's got to be a whole another crazy set of drama and crazy. I don't want to get too much into that. That shit's all been covered a million times. But now Hogan's leaving, he's going to WCW at some point that becomes known. Randy comes on your radio show, buries the shit out of hall. And I never knew what these guys were going to talk about because we didn't do any pre interviews. I had no idea what was going to be sandwiches agenda. And I was very shocked. Because that wasn't a style of the show wasn't a hatchet job show. It was Randy changed that a little bit. Going into business for himself. Why do you think you did that? Why? You don't? I guess he was really, really pissed at Hogan more than some people agreed or understood. He wanted to make a point, and he made his point. It was not, it was not great. It was a great radio. Okay, radio. But he just illustrated his total disdain for Hogan. So whatever happened between those two and with our work both working for Vince is what it was, but savage was not going to forget and forgive very easily. Did you have any incited? I mean, I almost feel like a high school kid asking this question, but was it jealousy? Was Liz the issue? Or was it more business? I think Liz had was an element in this issue. I'm not sure how big a role she played, but I think she was in play to some degree, and I think that may stem from Randy thinking that Hogan and Liz has something going on. I don't know that to be true. I have never had that confirmed, I've never really asked. I really don't care. But for whatever reason, it got personal. And so sometimes you can cut the chase to your search for what's going on about going, is there a woman in this equation? And there was a beautiful woman in this equation. And she was very unique. And that love hates she had with Randy was what it was. So he just, he never trusted Hogan at all for whatever reason. And I've always thought that the common place to start looking at that deal was Liz. You know, just, it was just a very uncomfortable situation. And they weren't, as this I recall, they worked together much. They stayed apart quite a bit. And sorry, a good thing for all of us. If someone relies on you financially,
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"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"That's a big territory. Yeah, and a lot of people are seeing you multiple times in a month. So you got to change up a little bit. You got to change the two wrinkles here or there in yawn. And they were able to do that, but there was just a learning process for those guys. And I'm sure that Verne learns things off, Roy. They were friends. They were colleagues. Both tough guys. So I'm sure that Verne learned a few things from Shah. But they all all those guys took from each other. I know Kevin would say this, that was a shower you should do this or the battle royal char used to do this. It was great at building a title match over time. So it was just a unique time for everybody. And we all were kind of playing along to see where it's going to take us. Well, talking about seeing where it's going to take us. Hulk Hogan makes a couple other appearances and making fulfills his European tour obligations, but basically he's on his way out. From the time he started in whatever was March 9th, 93 to the point where hulk's now getting ready to leave the company. Did you end up ever dealing with him? Did you get any closer to him? We're working more directly with him with that time or was it pretty much not really? Not really, Eric. I tried. It just was a tense thing. And again, trust was a big issue. He knew I was Vincent's guy. And I was going to do what miss wanted. Because I want to keep my job and grow with the company that seemed to be the way to do that was to acquiesce to what the chairman wanted. They're a good work. Come to work on time. Buster ass, all those good things. So that was kind of where I was. I didn't have any a lot of leeway there. But when I saw Terry, I was always friendly. I was always professional, always accommodating, but I'm not sure that he believed my sincerity was real. Or what? But it never really clicked in that first go around at all. How about when he did your WWF radio show? I think he was there to promote mister nanny. It was great. It's a famous well, that doesn't work for me, brother. No, he was good. He was good and he was a good guest. He was talkative. He was informative, entertaining. But I was pleasantly surprised. He had an opportunity on my radio show, which was a big deal at that time. On WSB, you know, 50,000 watt stations went 37 states. And at night it was a huge blowtorch signal. And so he knew that he had an opportunity to sell this product. So he's smart, marketing lies. So he cut the promo and he talked about his show and she Hulk Hogan isms and off we went. So he was a great guest. He really was. JR, our next sponsor, I should say your next sponsor has a product that I absolutely love. In fact, I have been using this product for 6 months before the game is sponsored. And I'm talking about AG one. My wife, you matter, miss B she's been a student of nutrition, and has studied nutrition for about 20 or 25 years now. So we both always have our ears out and eyes open for new product that's high quality, incredible product. And about 6 months ago, I started here Joe Rogan talking about it and gave it a try and absolutely felt in love with that. Didn't realize just how significant having better gut health and more energy, how much that could be achieved through one simple product. It tastes great. I look forward to it. I've been out of her. Like I said, 7 or 8 months now. Absolutely love it. It tastes great. It's super healthy. It has a mild tropical taste and I actually look forward to each and every morning. That's my routine, JR. I get up every morning, first thing I do is just like mix one scoop, AG one, ice cold water, throw it a couple scoops of ice and that's how I start my day every single day. So what do I do that JR?
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"We're going back to this time, and you've been in the company just a little bit, man, relatively short period of time. You've called a match for Hulk Hogan, one of the biggest names at that point, the history of professional wrestling, and maybe still in some ways arguably to this day. If you look at impact during certain eras and things like that, it's kind of a big damn deal. And now you called the match for him, you know, that's basically going to lead to him leaving the company. That's kind of accomplishment. Pretty early on. Yeah, well, you know, it was the Islamic I received and I did the best I could with it. I tried to take care of Hogan on its way out. He had a good out with that camera. The cameraman was of course downtown Bruno Harvey Wilson. That was his little role that day. Well, whose idea was that, by the way, man? That's the interruption. You know, I don't know. I want to say it might have been pat Patterson's idea. Might have been his idea. But somebody pat events came up with, as I best I recall, remember? That must have been high that day, because I've ever heard on a pat made sense to me, but having that goofy fucking photographer with a given camera. Well, they're just trying to find something to give Hogan an out. An excuse. And how do we do it that's unique? And that's what they came up with. Pat must have forgot his English French dictionary and confused unique was stupid. I love that. I do. I love that. He was a very young man, boy. I'll tell you, he was, he was a brilliant guy and a lot of the top stars in WWE now can a lot of can look back on their careers to say that Patterson was an asset. And Dwayne Johnson's won. Big time pat Patterson was huge. And rocks career. And others, you know, pat had a good line of communication with Austin. All those guys. So he was very much a part of the success that we had eventually had during the attitude era. Pat was helping those guys to find their game. And he held a job doing it. You know, when I was after I kind of moved on beyond executive producer and started getting involved with creative a little bit in 95 and then more 96. People kept asking, man, who's a one person you'd love to get from WWE. And it wasn't undertaker and it wasn't Shawn Michaels, no disrespect to them, but I knew that they weren't available anyway. They were both well, first of all, they want Sean because he was a trip and I didn't want another trip to deal with. But undertaker, I had heard from so many people he was so loyal to Vince. There was no way it was ever going to happen. So I never even thought about undertaker. But I coveted pat Patterson. I wanted pat so bad. Because historically, and you'll have a different perspective on this maybe than I did, but WCW never had no disrespect to dusty or anybody else. I love dusty. I really did. He was kind of a mentor to me in some respects. But when it came to finishes, me and WCW's finishes sucked. And I used to watch WWF shows, especially the pay per view shows. And it was like every finish was three dimensional. You thought you were seeing the fit now, you weren't seeing the finish. You were seeing a setup for a finish. And now we know, okay, now this is act two in a free act finish. And now you get to the finish. The finish itself was a journey within a journey, like the match is a journey of its own, right? You have the psychology and the storytelling and all the things that go into match. The anticipation to build up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then when you get in certain knocking on the door of the finish, then the finish becomes a journey within the journey. And pat was just amazing at that. Told great story. You know, wrestling in a territory like he did for 15 years in San Francisco for Roy scheier. Plenty of opportunity to refine his game in ring game and psychological game because they're in the same towns every week. And it was a nice little driving territory and he was there a long time. So I think all those things that he learned to do at episodically on TV were collaborating with Roy sharp, who was the hell of a Booker. I'm told. Was a great practice for what he ended up doing for Vince. He was just excellent. And he could think two or three shows down the road. He got the talent behind him, the talent, you know, I trusted him. I guess it's the best way of putting it. They trusted him. And they knew that his word, and he wasn't trying to get their spot. That's another thing as soon as challenging and booking somewhere is that the booking guys were experts who still believe they had gas in our tank to go out there and draw money, more money than the guy that's
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"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"Look. I'm another. Three big catch back to the face. Nobody gets up and can't believe it. Yo, those are the kick out of what is left of believe it. Never before. Has anybody done that? They shouldn't be up on the air as a dangerous place to be. Well, these pictures are sort of. It's camera exploded. What that hope is face. This camera exploded and Holden's face. Get those in apse. The hell happened. Obviously, it's Kevin exploded. Ladies and gentlemen, let's go to our big goal for the official decision. Boy, the headlines in the papers in Japan are going to be full of feathers. On the side has been impaired from that exposure. Oh no. What happened because I don't know. It's obvious to me. And the World Wrestling Federation. Once again, our too much for the hulkster. Y'all call sonata has defeated Hulk Hogan that way on the WWF Championship. Hogan doesn't know where he's at he flying. Here we go.
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"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"A call prior to this event. Yeah. And if you notice in this footage that we've been watching, if you happen to be watching along with us here in the afternoon shows dot com. Hogan's got a big old black eye. Yes, he does. He and Brutus had been out on jet skis, and maybe I got the story wrong, maybe you heard it differently, but they've been out on jet skis at a pretty serious jet ski accident. Brutus had a massive amount of damage to the head of the face required tons of stitches and Staples and reconstructive surgery and that's where here's another little piece of wrestling trivia for those of you who love this kind of crazy shit. I can't believe that I remember it because I've been out of my privilege in now for about a month and a half. But this is where oh gosh, I can't believe it was Ellis Edwards. Who was kind of a quasi stuntman and Hogan had I think been introduced with him doing his show under whatever it was thunder and Paradise. And Ellis happened to be out on jet skis with hulk and Brutus and pretty serious accident with zealous that actually probably saved us his life. Wow. At that point. And then Ellis became one of those people that Hulk Hogan became very loyal to this is why I ended up having not having to hire because Ellis did a lot for us. I would have never hired him otherwise. And then Ellis went on to have another 20 or 25 year career at WWE as a result. All as a result of an accident that happened right before the match that you called back in 1993. Yeah. Yeah. I never got the whole story on that deal because there were so many stories floating around what happened would didn't happen. There was a fight, you know, oh, that's a dramatic and there was a fight. They don't want to talk about it. So I never really knew the whole story of that deal. Other than those guys dodged a bullet. And their faces, you know, showed that Hogan, I remember seeing Hogan at WrestleMania 9, which is for the submit was in Las Vegas. She just spelled. And his black eye was a lot worse than it was there. So he was, he looked rough, man. You really did look rough, but the show must go on and this is going to go come out or high water, no matter what Hogan looked like. The black eye kind of fit the motif of a pro wrestler. That could happen. It could have a for real. Actually, I want to take just a second and
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"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"So a couple of weeks after you called your first match with Hulk Hogan and the Beverly brothers, by the way, I came up in the business. I was introduced into wrestling in 1987 with Verne and the Beverly brothers, I think, popped their cherry about the same week I did. And I went to work for vern. So it's really cool seeing them work together. Mike eNOS and Wayne bloom, lady the good job of making Hogan. But the shine on the baby faces. You know, quite frankly, so they did their role in that match, but that's what you found out with everybody with Hogan. There's a lot of guys who grew up idolizing him. Now we're getting the chance to work with him and the chance of making him look good. Live with our type thing. And they look forward to it. Barely brothers are right there at the top of the list. They were Hogan fans at Hogan friends and they certainly work like it, which is good. Yeah, I mean, to go from working for burn Ghani at that time, in 1987, 88, 89, when I was there with the Beverly brothers, were then Wayne and Mike. Yeah, they're probably making a buck 75 a week. You know? So a $175 a week, by the way. So yeah, making the move to WWE and having a chance to work with one of the biggest names in the business was probably, you know, they may not say it the same way today, but probably the highlight of their career in some respects. I wouldn't doubt it. They probably made more money during these to say, he knew told me this. Along with others that were there tenured monsoon, is that back in the day when they were having running house shows two or three at night and Hogan was booked, that's the first thing the guys looked at. They didn't look to find out what town they ran. They looked to find out what town Hogan was in. And if they wrote Hogan's car at the house shows a lot of events, they're happy. And I think that's 6 well for Hogan. Everybody would rather be they didn't care where they were. They were worried about their booking and was tell they were going to be in. They just wanted to be on the same card with Hogan because they knew more than likely it was going to draw. So let's talk about one of those next cards shortly after this match in on March 9th. Hoping to feed yokozuna shortly after yokozuna defeated Bret Hart. Were you per VTL that? Do you know what was going on before the night of that match or could you? Yeah, it was kind of a political nightmare. You had different parties while being for different things. And to beat yokozuna at that time was a little bit of a risk because we didn't know how well his character was going to withstand a loss to the returning Hulk Hogan. But it was, I thought it was kind of cool booking. And it certainly reinvigorate Hogan. It showed that yokozuna was human. They did a little crazy finish and so it wasn't like he got guzzled or eaten alive. So but it was very political. There was a side. You know, Yoko had a lot of followers within the company. A lot of relatives, a lot of friends, he was very lockable. So he's getting his big break, and now the old men's coming back and taking it away from you. So there was a little bit of political, I don't say upheaval. That's overdramatic, but it wasn't the most popular move within the Moors. So I'm going to test you here. Okay. And I always fail with these tests so don't feel any pressure because I'm horrible at the kind of question I'm going to ask you. But you know, one of the first interviews that I did, I think it was on ESPN. For vern was with yokozuna. Before he was yokozuna. Do you remember his name in AWA before Yoko was Yoko? Yeah, I did. So you asked me, you know as soon as I checked. Coquito maximus. Coquina maximus. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, coquina. Coquina maximus. Rodney Yoko was such a lockable guy. And guys were so happy that he got his break. And he was a top heel and a territory. With his gimmick, he was very, very marketable and different size his nationality and how he's positioned with all unique and so for Hogan to come in and destroy the guy that seemingly unbeaten unbeatable. Was how it was, and it was certainly drove a little bit of a wedge between hulk and some of the other guys, not that Hogan had not been in that same position on many occasions. It didn't break him into slowing down. I don't know if it even affected him whatsoever. But there was some pushback there with that whole deal. A lot of meetings, a lot of changes, and so I just kind of waited till the end of the day or the last minute said, okay, now what are we going to do? Because as ever changing. And that's just, you know, I've always tried myself and being able to call whatever I see them to monitor. So I figured, well, you know, I'm not going to have a hand in the final final on this creative, whether I'd like to do what they're doing or that I don't. But I'm going to be prepared to call the match. So what's a goddamn match on the monitor? I could call that. If I could see it, I could give you a match. I can do that work. So that's kind of where I got to myself. Let me get to compartmentalize this back to my little area. That I can control. And go
The Jim Ross Report
"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"For better or worse, you know, whatever, whatever relationship hulk and Brutus had always tried to take care of him. And not just Buddhists or others as well. There were others as well. And to agree, I may have been one of them. You know, when it came to TNA, TNA wanted to bring Hulk Hogan in, how couldn't Hulk Hogan would go in unless he brought Eric Bischoff. I joke about it all the time. I got Jimmy harded into TNA. I didn't want to be there. I got Jimmy harded into there. So as much as it was a pain in the ass, they have to deal with guys like Brutus because of hall could pay that tax. I kind of admire the guy for just look, here's the deal. If you want me, I'm loyal to my Friends, you're going to have to be loyal to them too. Yeah, that's a great trait. And a passing trait here. It's not that way for everybody. And a lot of talents are so insecure that they are afraid to bring along their tax, their baggage. Not hulk. He knew exactly his worth. It has value, and he had leverage. And all that bowl down to is getting one of his buddies a gig or two or three buddies a gig, then that's what he's going to do. So, and you know it, Vincent, I didn't have that issue when it came to us, the first time because he was just kind of getting back in the family, shall we say. Yeah. And it was a little slower process than he was accustomed to. But look, he still had access to McMahon. He doesn't have the access to McMahon that he had prior to. It wasn't wide open. For the door was always open. This may say the door is always open. But we both know that the doors open, he says it's open. And I think Terry Hogan had to understand that. And it's just to it. And it wasn't an easy adjustment. Now, I get it. I get it. Especially knowing him. And I know this is going to sound really weird to people that don't know hulk quell, but that probably in a way sounds so cornball, but hurt his feelings. Because I think hulk went back there with an anticipation of a relationship that used to exist. And things had changed. The business had changed. Vince had changed. And a lot of the influence of Eric around events, wrestlers I'm talking about. They were not a Hogan fans. Because they knew that automatically when he got booked back into the territory that he would be a player. And he would be taking somebody's spots. He'd be the main event. He'd be key TV time. And a lot of the talents in, we put a bug in the advances here. He's old. He's broken down. He's back as bad. It can hardly get up and down. And they talked against Hogan. Of this money there, but not on the same terms that it once was. But he still thought there was value there. And so did I, quite frankly. His whole coconut for God's sakes just that's a big deal to me. And it was a big deal to this. Events just wanted to make sure that he was, he had a please both sides of the aisle. The young talent is a Triple H is a guy like that that wanted to be on their own unencumbered and all that stuff. Those guys were very vocal. They didn't want to lose their spot. But they didn't realize that you still have a good match with Hogan. Kurt Angle had a great match in folk. As limited as Terry was, he had a great match with Kurt. And so I think that it was just a tough transition that nobody foresaw. And I think you're right. I think Terry probably felt a little bit, you know, back Bernard a little bit. He's kind of taken for granted. Hey, you're here. You got a job. Shut up and wrestle. And that's not the way Hogan works. And it's not the way he left. And that's the tough part of coming back, right? Yeah. These are always a little bit rules of different environments different. JR, hold up for just a second. I don't know if I ever told you this. But you know, thinking about how we all broke into the business differently and what got us there. Unlike you, I didn't break into the wrestling industry because I had any talent. I was able to break into the wrestling business because I frankly had a great head of hair and if there's anybody that understands just how important it is to have a great head of hair, it's yours truly. And I got to admit at 67 years old, I've got a pretty decent head of hair, but you know why? Because I prevent hair loss with keeps our sponsor this week. And let's face it, two out of three men are going to experience some form of hair loss by the time they're 35. More than 50 million men.
The Jim Ross Report
"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"Is like the first time you met Hogan, right? In person? Do you call? I don't know if I even met him. I met Vince down there for the first time in person. And we had a three hour meeting while TV was ongoing. And when we left, I had a job. At Stanford, moving to Stanford. So that was a little bit of a tricky deal. Sorry. Yeah. And then, hey, I lived there so many times. I kind of get used to it. Off and on off and on. So I was a very active renter in Connecticut. Unfortunately, but you may not remember you may not remember having met hulk that night, but you did call a match, he and Brutus beefcake defeated the Beverly Beverly brothers that night. You did the voiceovers with Bobby heenan for a WWF coliseum video release. So take a look at that. And it gets it. This is what they've been waiting for. I want to see the whole story. The beefcake is the weak link of the team because of his face. They got to take advantage of it. Beefcake space had to be surgically repaired after a jet skiing accidental. Someone's up in the air in her knees right in the head of the face. 5 times WWE have championed no one's done it better than him. He talked about losing weight and be quicker to be, I have a little bit more cardiovascular conditioning. He looks to be a very lean in the excess poundage. That's what I'm sure. Right, headlock by Hogan. Good shoulder block. Surprisingly good quickness here and over the front of the eye. And another time to the eye. We're caution to the wind as far as the wheels are concerned. This gets nailed. And the baby's best we breathe. The mega maniacs. Let him make that day. Well rested. That's a momentum here. And holding and taking away from you. With far side. Catches both Beverly. And the bee can't get elbow out goes up Blake Beverly. And Hogan just golf family that manifold. Referee to see it. I guess. I hope you're proud of your victory, you and beefcake. So real, real good victory. Thank you. I got one question. And I know you're not going to know the answer to this gem. There's no way you could possibly know the answer to this because this is your first night on the job in WWF. Your brand new you haven't met Hulk Hogan. Right. I know that feeling, man. You're kind of a fish out of the water. You know the business. You know the industry, you're confident in your skills, but you're in a brand new environment. But the first question I would have asked is like, who the fuck decided that Brutus the barber beefcake should be wearing pom poms on his hands? That was the singularly most stupid looking shit I've seen in a long time. Yeah, a little hokey. A little hokey, you know, he was just trying to keep up with hulk. Hawk's charisma was natural. BK had to manufacture his, and as we saw, it didn't, he sucked at that. It didn't do so well. You know what? And I know I shouldn't be like this, right? 'cause I try every day I get up. I try and I'm not saying this to be funnier. Give myself over, but I try to be a better person every day because I know I get a lot of ground to cover. I've only got so much time left on the clock. It is what it is. I'm 67 years old. I'm only going to be here for a certain amount of time. And I want to do the best I can at being a better person. And I try not to be critical of other people or judgmental of other people. But when it comes to Brutus suburb of beefcake, I am challenged as a person. I'm challenged. In terms of my goal of being a better person because it's very difficult for me to find anything positive to say about him. Other than professionally speaking, I think he's probably one of the most professional suck ups and ask users I've ever met in my life. It's as good as it gets. Well, you know, he took his friends well and I'll say that for him. You know, to be, to be the writing partner, either ride or die guy with Hogan. Wasn't a bad thing. For beefcake, I guess. He made a career out of beat a mooch. He was Hogan's. I guess it helps when you ride with somebody that's got that much influence. And Hogan did have that much influence. He went to visit, I wanted to do something. I want to do some tags. It'll be easier. And say, well, who do you want to work with? Well, I want to work with beefcake. Because you need beefcake was harmless. It was harmless. I was on the receiving end of the same conversations, man. I didn't want to hire Brutus. That's the last thing. It was a whole Coke and tax. There were certain taxes you have to pay. Hulk Hogan, you're going to negotiate a salary or his fee and then you're going to negotiate the taxes that you have to pay along with it. All right. You're right. There's a little bit of add on tax. Shall we say? And you had to pay it, or you didn't have Hogan. I looked at it. And you know what, Jim is much as the executive side of me and even the creative side of me wasn't excited about Brutus at all. Like, truth be told, I just, it was like throwing up in my mouth in a way. Yeah. But I kind of admired hulk in a sense and still do. Because he's very loyal, he's loyal, almost sometimes he's loyal to people he shouldn't be loyal to. And I learned that years later, of course. But
The Jim Ross Report
"hogan" Discussed on The Jim Ross Report
"We're listening to grilling with JR. JR is here. But I'm stepping in for Conrad Thompson. Conrad is just burning it at both ends and getting ready for sarcasm. And I thought, man, what a great opportunity. This will be for me to sit in with someone who I have a tremendous amount of respect for. What, you got a chance to work for, work with. And get to know over at least the last couple of decades. Yeah, the glass COVID decades. We're going to know buddy. Yeah. I'm going to do a very inadequate job of sitting in for JR, but Jim, because this is, you know, this is a cool topic. First really interactions with Hulk Hogan and how Cogan coming to WWE and there's a lot of stuff that we're going to be able to dig into, but man, I'm looking forward to doing this with you. That's cool. Me too. And I'm looking forward to doing this topic. Because as I mentioned to you before we started recording, I look at my relationship with the focus of a missed opportunity. I think I could have done a better job interacting with him, but you know, he's one of those he's one of those kind of one of those legend guys that won't come to nominator. I think some guys in that generation and the guys that get to his level, which are very few, was the fact that they don't trust a lot of people. This is where they're brought up. Territories don't breed comfort or security. A lot of Lion going on as we both know. So I never got around to building that relationship and I tried to, but it just didn't seem like it ever went through and so I just stepped back and tried to manage you know the best I could and knowing that he has some insecurities back issues, all those type of things. So it should be a fun conversation. I just wish I had let me ask you Jim before we go too much further and I don't want to get past this because you point out some really cool stuff there. Do you think, I mean, look, I get it. Guys that came up during Hogan's era and particularly in even more so before Hogan. I mean, it was a dog eat dog world. The territory system was doggy Dogg. It was promoter versus talent. Nobody trusted anybody. Everybody was trying to take your spot, even people you thought were friends were really not your friends when it came to the people that you worked with for the most part. So it was an inherently kind of a carnivorous environment. So that part I get, but do you think it might also the awkwardness between you and hulk might have also been the fact that prior to you coming to WWE and prior to hulk leaving WWE, what was then F, all kind of very one on one direct relationship with Vince. Right. That would make it hard for you or anybody to really kind of get between he and Vince. Do you think that had something to do with it? Oh, absolutely. You know, when he left, he had a different arrangement. He talked to the top guy on a regular basis and everybody said they hung out and they worked out and they went out and all those type of things. And I never had those experiences with bulk. The last thing he wants to do is see me in a gym. The last thing I want to do here is be there. So he used to work out with Brian knobs all the time, brother. He didn't care who he works out with. Especially in anti category. Me too. With Brian. What, guys? But anyway, it was he's an interesting cat. He's answering character. And here's the deal. Bottom line is he was a product of his environment. The territory system bred a certain distrust, so forth. And all he was as a product of that environment. And you and I have seen those guys come and go. That's what it is. And so I think this is going to be a fun show to do to do as we get real in here. All right, so let me ask you before we let's just start from the beginning, man. When did Hulk Hogan show up on your radar screen? When did you first hear the name? Hulk Hogan, see the guy on TV. Oh, that was during the big boom, and then in the 80s, Mr. T era, piper, you know, Paul orndorff, that big angle. It was when I first heard about him. I'd seen pictures of him, it was impressed, obviously. Hard not to be impressed with this physique and his look and all those things. And his success. So volumes. So, but that's when I heard about it. You know, he was tearing it up and he was drawing big money and of course, even before then, the houses that he drew in AWA burn. And you're old area. It was damned impressive. He was the guy who was selling the tickets and loading the wagon. I'm assuming I could be wrong. You're working for watts during this period of time? Yeah. All right, yeah. All right, now when I first went to work for vern in 87, now this is after hulk left Verne and jump ship, so to speak, that's the way it was presented to me. Walked out in the middle of the night, all that kind of stuff. So everything I heard from vern when I first stepped into the wrestling business was kind of like anti hall, kids. I hulked not because he wasn't a drawn out because he wasn't a great potential and a great performer, but because of their business shit. What was Watson's perception and therefore, what did you hear from watts about Hulk Hogan at the period of time? He was a big attraction guy. Watts ahead of this theory that guys like Andre, they were unique and special had a unique look. Unique skill set, some of those guys were better off better use sparingly. And they kept their value. They maintained their value if they did. So he thought that Hogan was that. He felt Hogan was a special attraction guy. He saw on special occasions. If he did it that way, it didn't overexpose him. He's going to draw a house for you. So bill didn't have any inherent, he's not a real wrestler. He doesn't ever wrestle with him. He's not an amateur. He never had any of that issue. I've never heard that from him. You know, I never heard that from him. The proof was that the box office. You know, you can reach about his athleticism or he's not a shooter and all those that bullshit. But I think what really turned Bill on that regard was the fact that Vernon's territory was the line at times. And on this occasion, it was just the fact that we got over. And cowboys always interested in what other territories did to get their guys over. Because their baby said they could pick up and use the JYD or some of his very faces of himself.
Poetry Unbound
"hogan" Discussed on Poetry Unbound
"This poem is filled with a wisdom of delight because it has a reminder of what's possible, particularly at the start when Linda Hogan speaks about myself merely small in the ocean of splendor and light. The reflections and distortions of us. There's a desire in these lines to see humanity among and alongside and with and permitted and small. There's a celebration here splendor and light. But there's a hint too that who's looking, reflections and distortions of us, which distortions are we going to pay attention to, and who are we going to distort in the name of the imagination we have of what humanity's place in the world is. And this, I think, is the deep and profound invitation and intelligence and wisdom of this poem, which is to recognize that any ways within which we need to readjust our engagement with the world inconvenient to some of those things might be that those are for the purpose of being able to reorient ourselves to being part of this splendid and beautiful and delightful way of being among nature that she's presenting.
The Adam Carolla Show
"hogan" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show
"Oh gosh that live dynamite. I gotta go back. I got the As i was telling my audience. I think Weekend and a half ago. I was hanging around with jim farley. Which is chris farley. cousin. I guess he's the ceo and the president of ford motor company. He looks just like chris farley. There's a resembling role. It's chris farley chris farley raced cars and ran ford versus stayed up with hookers all night but they look exactly saying that the same the same energy and everything on. We'll see if we can get you a picture that all my gosh yes. He looks like him in the face. And he he's a farley except for he's the president of ford motor company. That's amazing so. I gotta tell you chris farley. He was the greatest guy. And you know when his memorial you would expect some like celebrity to get up and talk about him but this guy was a shut in. Chris used to visit the shut ins and bring food to them. He was like he was like a little saint with a terrible addiction problem. You know and i credit. Christopher listen i was a little too much for guys. I talked too much as you can tell have stop talking. So i like this guy. Peter hogan my husband now who lived a block from me so we'd go out after the show. I'd be like chris. It really like him. He's like commanche. Now's go and we'd go eat buzzed. The buzzer be peer. Waked up you fat bastard. Rugby played rugby soda. Crystals big rugby plays like can die for scrummed down so don't inevitably let us in. And if it wasn't for chris. I never would have peter. Peter really liked me because it kind of i kind of forced my way in through chris. Yeah that's interesting. The put people together gene which yeah jimmy kimmel has that gene. He's like you should meet this person. I'm gonna put you guys together. Does he like assembles. People like human lego land or something. But it's actually. It's really the kindest thing you can do you. You hear about somebody and you go. You need to talk to this person. You guys would love each other. I'm going to facilitate that. I do that. I totally match make people. I think you have to be really blunt. You should be guys would get married. You can't just like you might like each other. Just get right to it. Yeah and circling back to being a student in maybe thinking you had some sort of disability that would have been diagnosed by today's standards. But think about it. I was the same horrible student. But think about really what you're asking people to do. You're taking kids with a sense of humor. Not all of them. But some had a sense of humor and you're taking thirteen year olds and fourteen year olds. All i wanna do is be running around getting someone in a headlock jumping off a roof into a swimming pool riding a dirt bike or something. And you're putting them into a classroom with no air conditioning and you're saying sit there silently while this sixty three year old pontificates about the civil war. How could you not have that reaction. Listen i told you. I have three kids. My son is hilarious. I swear to god the discipline guy had my number on speed out every friday. Sh- ron it's mr sorrows really nice guy peter on today. There's girls berry upset. Peter didn't learn one thing excludes in school but he did learn what upon it square was. Which is i. Guess is if you have enough of your hair color. Become something and call eight. She had a boyfriend. That was ginger red hair. He's like she told. Peter told the girl that if he if she marries the boy she's gonna have ginger kids. Do you know cholera harris. It was so ridiculous. You couldn't do anything funny and of course. I thought everything was funny that my son did which was not good. I remember they called me in junior year. And they're like. I had to meet like it was like a firing squad like everybody was there. They're like there's three weeks to go in. Pita has a twenty four average in math. Now if that doesn't bring it up he's going to have to go to summer school. And i'm like over my dead body my driving this frigging kid to summer school. It wasn't even close by. So i say strikes me really funny because the more serious. They thought it was funny. I thought it was okay. Okay so i understand that and the head of the department was not only the head of the math choose. Math and science so talk about now relate right right. She's like no humor. Is there any way he could maybe do some extra credit and she's like like what do you think the three weeks ago with twenty four average is this kid is scrooge so i go so she says like what and i said i was thinking if he could do like a poster of a decimal like no wonder the kids jerk the mothers and jerk to they go. I think of it like modern art. Let's just a dot really like maybe teach the younger kids with a decimal ice. Swear to god they just started like padding his grades because they just want him either wanted to do with her modern well and it's going back to so. This movie rushed with the four kids in it. The mother is a helicopter mother. And we these bizarre things with the with the cellphones will contact these kids constantly and the mother gets in the car and she's like call your brother and the mom it's weird and but she's harasses the kid about this fraternity pledge and that's just a weird thing to that you're like able to get a hold of your kid in college and be like are you there learning to pledge be walk. What are you doing are you safe. It's like this bizarre culture that we're in well and there's no and that's why it was so realistic because it's not setting her up as a two dimensional. Gosh she's the worst she's a nagara. She's so sweet. She's both she's trying to help him. She knows this is important to him. She tells them what words to punch. She cares she's she's driving him insane. Yeah well. I think that. I mean i think the movie really works getting a lot of good reviews and everything which. I'm so insanely grateful for because when funny people have really sad things happen to them when this kids in this fraternity Amazing instant. It's so sad to see funny. People be crushed you know and how they handle it and and in the movie you know. She prays her career end off but she swears while she's doing it. And when when the tables turn. That's what gets through your humor and enter faith you know. I mean not to be icky but but that's the that's the truth. Who chaban can you hang out with us and do that with us. I would love to all right first. Let me hit Tommy john apollo tommy..
The Impact of Leadership
"hogan" Discussed on The Impact of Leadership
"She's always been a rock for me a creative driving force in the company and just someone that challenges me and understands me as another significant milestone for us was nine years ago we decided or i decided at that time that we needed to have a digital department. I completely understood that. Facebook with with all the different digital advertising coming aboard and social media. And things like that that. That wasn't something that i had received an education on while in college and it was something that i i could see. The writing on the wall was going to be pretty influential in the marketing world. And i decided to start putting my feelers out for somebody that was talented in this area and that was actually. When i recruited my husband john hogan he had started a he was helping lead in initiative started digital department locally and he was actually trying to compete against me. School i when He wasn't my husband back then. But i brought him in to chat with me and to better understand a skill set and i realize that he was going to be part of needed to be part of our team because he was a leader in this area and in i i knew i needed him over the past Since two thousand eight we have expanded our office five or six times. We started in a very tiny office in twin lakes wisconsin My dad was fortunate enough to give us a low rent. An opportunity to move in there and quickly. We needed an office in kenosha as well. We're now located in the harbor building. Downtown where a three years ago. We built out our custom sweet that i never ever want to move out of We now have our own studio for doing video as well as photography as well as just a beautiful space for our team to spread out on. We continue to reflect. I would say that just where why we continue to grow and in what continues to drive us as we continue to reflect on what makes us successful in which clients that we fit best with we definitely a few years ago decided that we were only going to take on new clients whose values allying with us and that that's been akitas our success in in the team's overall happiness and improving that and since we made that decision. We've definitely improved. Our overall morale is.