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"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

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03:44 min | Last month

"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

"This is very important for hobbes's political philosophy. That it not be dependent just be dependent on the capacity of the sovereign to be able to seek your piece in order so what happens to us as moral beings once with part of a state where the sovereign do we have much scope so exercise or we just ob-gyn pawns in the sovereigns game. That's a great question. Because one of the misconceptions about hobbs that those of us who living in the twentieth century might have is that he's some kind of totalitarian and he's not when it comes to politics the reason why he's not as because such thing would not have been possible in seventeenth century england. There's no such thing as being able to regulate all aspects of individuals lives. That state capacity is very minimal. What he means by this kind of unlimited sovereign is that the sovereign is not accountable to anybody that no one else has the right to punish the sovereign and that the sovereign is not limited by his own laws that he stands above the law. So he's not talking about a totalitarian state. And so in fact. Hobbs envisioned that. It would be prudent for the sovereign to leave many liberties a very wide scope for subjects to them themselves. Decide in a way. What hobbes envisions is that. The sovereign is providing the general framework for social interaction that is needed for peace and security but then we enjoy quite a bit of freedom within that society to act within that framework. One of the things that happens with the sovereign is that with the existence of a sovereign and a commonwealth the status of natural law becomes transformed. Because as i said earlier for hobbs natural law are just prudential. Maxim's of what it is that is conducive to your self preservation but when you enter into commonwealth hobbs believes that the very structure of civil law incorporates intrinsically within itself natural law. So now what happens. Is that actually the sovereign in effect has legislated the laws of nature to everybody so now you are accountable to others for upholding laws of nature the social laws of nature which are conducive to peace whereas before. It's just good for you to be disposed to follow the laws of nature. Now you have this juridical obligation that you all to your fellow subjects that you act in ways that are consistent with the laws of nature. I can see that in terms of building up from the most simple elements to the complexity of a state with agreements between people and giving up enough freedoms to allow the peace to be possible between human beings who have a tendency to seek their own gratification when their desires conflict but does still feel in some ways unattractive because it seems to legitimate the worst kind of leadership where the sovereign is acting on a women can just become curricular. Whatever there's no built in safety device here. I think that you're putting your finger on a point of hobbes's political philosophy. That many people would disagree within would criticize so one of the things that useful about studying. Hobbs is the c- well. Why does he get their his ethics. In a way is setting up this problem to which his absolutism is supposed to provide an answer and so if we want to understand the ideology of a political absolutism. It's very useful to understand. Well what are the starting points of a thinker like hobbes who is one of its foremost theorists. Oj thank you very much. Thank you Philosophy bites go to www dot philosophy bites dot com. You can also find details there. A philosophy bites books and how to support us..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

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04:42 min | Last month

"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

"So there's all kinds of fear and suspicion of other people in the state of nature which means that contracts are extremely precarious in the state of nature from a position of seeing ethics starting with some kind of recognition of other people's interests. This looks like an incredibly selfish stones on the world ethics is just a matter of looking at number one which is almost the opposite of what ethics is usually taken to be. Today in many people today would say well. If it's just pure tourism is not really ethical right so there's a way in which that's absolutely true about hobbs. In ancient ethics course ethics was ultimately about your own good so it is kind of egoistic in its structure but not in its content because recall. What i said earlier is that baked into. What's good for. You is other people's good. Hobbs gets rid of that so now it looks scary to you as you're saying and that's right that's how the starting point but he also has a way of bringing the collectively and other people's good into ethics with the way that he starts out and we call the signs of ethics calls the signs of the good which is just my good but nevertheless he thinks that this creates a problem for us in the state of nature because each person looking out for their own individual good is going to end up disagreeing with other people about. What's good because i'm gonna call something good. That's good for me and you're gonna call something. Good that's good for you or at least what seems good to you and what seems good to me and we're going to disagree and now we're gonna fight about these things and we're going to descend into a state of war and so by right of nature. I can kill you. i can do whatever i want. I'm not under any obligation and same with you but unfortunately that unlimited freedom undermines our own. Good which is the point of having this right of nature in the first place. So that's the problem that ethics sets up and then that's where community comes in for him. That's where society comes in for hobbs. Which is as a solution to the problem. That ethics is individualistic ethic sets up. But there's a way out remember. I said there's these kind of two faces. Two hobbes's ethics. There's the reasons of the good that we have but we also have these reasons with the right which is to say we have the power to promise to others and to undertake obligations to others that we owe to them in virtue of our own commitments and so given this power that we have to undertake these commitments. We can leave that state of nature. So you write it. Starts out very selfish individualistic egoistic in this way but what these hobson individuals are supposed to notice. And what hamas wants to convince them of is that their own good even though intrinsically it's not constituted by other people's good nevertheless instrumentally it turns out that they share a common good namely piece because the way in which each individuals own good is going.

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"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

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03:52 min | Last month

"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

"Full materiality of the world and the atom he begins with is an isolated human being and builds up from there for his ethics. Yes when we're talking about is ethics. The fundamental starting point is the individual human being rather than the political community. But another thing that he's doing. Is that for hobbs. And this is where he kind of stands at a threshold between sort of ancient ethics and the more modern conceptions of ethics. Is that what we see. In the eighteenth century with figures like grotius and hobb's is a new conception of obligation that arises which we might call a juridical conception of an obligation so four for example a figure. Like thomas aquinas. Who is very much in the classical tradition an obligation that you have under natural law just needs the thing that is necessary for your own wellbeing. The thing that is necessary for your own you. Diamond nia or in latin. The way they translated that was felicitas. Right so the english word. Felicity comes from this so the thing that is necessary for your own good. That's what your obligation consistent. That's a you die. Monistic conception of an obligation whereas what's happening in the seventeenth century with figures like grotius and. Hobbs is that they have a new conception of obligation that you are obligated in the sense that you owe it to others to do something in virtue of having promised to you something. I now have an obligation to do it. In virtue of having contracted with another person i have an obligation in this juridical sense to do it and that meaning of obligation is distinct from the other older sense of obligation. Which was this you die monistic when we just meant it's good for me and because hobbes is doing this this potentially creates a gap between what reasons. I have reasons of the good that i have to do things that would be good for me to do. As opposed to reasons of the right or reasons of justice that i have in virtue of the fact that i owe it to somebody else..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

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04:13 min | Last month

"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

"We are free from obligations to others. And also because of hobbes's views about how we think about what is good for ourselves so his theory of the good. He thinks that we end up at war with each other without a commonwealth so we can get into why it is on his ethics that this happens but the ethics in and way sets up the problem that his politics is meant to be solution to so this christian country must have been extremely radical because most people presumably without the what we naturally have is a kind of christian ethics other people's lives are concerned because we have an injunction from god not to kill other people that's prior to our coming into this particular country this particular world that's right and in fact. He was a very controversial figure in his own time. Many christian writers opposed him. They accused them of being an atheist. And therefore it kind of moral nihilist and so on but in fact. He wasn't a nihilist when it comes to ethical questions. He has a very rich ethics. And that's a fact that in fact you know even modern. Contemporary interpreters have sometimes not quite appreciated the extent to which he has the rich conception of ethics but precisely because he was rejecting some of the traditional understandings of the way that ethics works. He was attacked for it. So where does he stop from an individual human being alone or potentially with other people some kind of physical entity or is it something that he definitely starts out with the individual. Because what hobbes's doing which is quite radical in the historical context. He's rejecting traditional assumption. It's a traditional assumption. That was very central for example. The classical natural law theory from thomas acquaintance that inform much of christian theology and the assumption that he's rejecting is that by nature. We're sociable very simply put. We can think of that rejection of saying look. We don't necessarily have a reason that is intrinsic to our own well-being for living with others. This was an assumption that everybody was making and that by nature..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

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03:58 min | Last month

"hobbes" Discussed on Philosophy Bites

"Thomas hobbes's leviathan published. Shortly after the english civil war hopes argues that human life in a state of nature would be solitary poor nasty brutish and short. The solution was to consent to be ruled by an absolute sovereign. Such a system would be inao so interest but that leaves open the question. We're ethics fits into the picture. Is there a more reason to obey the sultan beyond self preservation. Are we under any ethical litigations to each other. I wish i'd be. Sawday is a canadian philosopher and the author of hopes and the two faces of ethics are resulted. Welcome to philosophy bites. Thank you very much for having me the topic we're going to focus on today is thomas. Hobbes is ethics before we get onto the ethics. Could you just say very briefly. Thomas was tom. Sobs was a seventeenth century english philosopher. He was born actually at the end of the sixteenth century. But he lived a very long life. He's very significant because he was actually one of the first systematic philosophers to write in the english language so much of the heritage of english language. Philosophy can be traced back to hobbs because prior to that people writing latin in europe when they would write philosophy so you really created the way in a way that we speak philosophy and english and has the third is one of the most famous books of philosophy in the world. That's right it's a very famous book. It's a book that he wrote an english unlike other texts that he did write in in latin but this was his third restatement of his political philosophy. And it's very famous for his harsh account of what it would look like. If there was no state if there was no government to rule over people and he describes the state of nature as necessarily a state of war because he thinks without having a leviathan which for him is how he characterizes the state without having a sovereign power to rule over us that we essentially descend into a war of all against all..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

Still Buffering

05:32 min | 6 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

"And why and by the way i should say Because we on the merchandising thing and how that just wasn't a thing and it has occurred to me that like you can read about the very few licensed actual like legitimate calvin and hobbes products that were ever made and there weren't a lot I owned a t shirt. That i am now realizing. Must have been an unlicensed. T shirt i was. I was thinking about that last week when you mentioned that mike. I don't think he ever gave t-shirt licenses. Yeah i feel. I think there was one very specific. T shirt that was issued for like a a specific event or something. But but that was it. No this this would not have been that t shirt. So t shirt. It was calvin and hobbes lane in the grass under a tree looking up at the sky and it said people say i'm a dreamer but i'm not the only one which of course is not a court. It's not calvin. Did i now interested to know if these is. This t shirt company had licensing from kelvin. And hobbs and did they have licensing tease beatles lyrics. Probably we'll calvin and hobbes. Here's what's weird. I feel like mom got it at like hot topic or something but that can't be right. Well i i mean this was pre internet right in like in terms of. I'm not pre internet. But you know what i mean in terms of ordering shirts. There's no way mom got this off the internet. Yeah she would have bought an store well but that's about all of those. I think the most offensive Copyright infringement of calvin and hobbes are those stupid little truck stickers with calvin p non random place. Oh my god those. Those are around in the nineties and those were definitely those. Were definitely not licensed but those were definitely available in stores. I guess that's true. I i guess. Bill watterson has talked about that like that he just could not have predicted popular. It would be to have calvin peeing on a ford love. How could you have ever foreseen. That's what the people want. that's fair. how offensive like. Here's my character. That i i know drew so lovingly and nuanced about childhood and just millions of people have them on the back of their trucks. Peeing on thanks bombers unfortunate and it was not the spirit of calvin calvin wouldn't be the kid who would go pee on your truck. I mean he got into mischief but that not that kind of well. Let's wasn't bearded. Now i think peeing on your truck is mean-spirited. What if they didn't know why did you. Why did you say so secretly. What if they didn't know what of no. I'm just curious. I have seventy questions. Why are you defending this. To what do you mean. What if they didn't know in three like did you do it i. I'm just saying when. I get into my car on a regular basis. I don't like go around it and sniff make sure there's not like any p anywhere anything i just get in..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

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03:45 min | 6 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

"Like why can you see me. And it was just such a perfect little because when his mom enters now we're back out of his immagination we're into the real world but it was just the way that it hits always made me laugh the idea of your kid thinking that they're invisible and then trying to get cookies without you know you're standing there looking at them naked going. What are you doing like what. Why do you think you can get a cookie right now and also what is happening everything about it. I don't know if there's a kid like parentage. Funny but as a kid it just every time i would see that strip. It would just make me laugh. Because he's nike. Yeah of silly. Very silly. Like in a in one of the books that i i. I got to prepare for this. There's a foreword and they talk about. How the charm of calvin and hobbes is that so many people that right like oh what a wacky little kid kind of comex. Just make these little like sarcastic adults. But the calvin and hobbes truly does capture like just the. We're brandom nece children. Like i mean you said you know like you kids make up stuff and do weird things you know and it's like there's no there's no logic to it. There's something different a new every day. And that definitely is you know. And calvin and hobbes. It's like feels like a very real child imagination. It's so true that one of the things. I've referenced a lot is Calvin ball so in the strips calvin and hobbes play a sport that he made up con- calvin ball and the whole joke is that calvin ball has increasingly complex and intricate rules. That change added to and mike. He's because he's making it all up. And i've always thought of that as like very clear. A sage of childhood development the concrete stage of development. When you need to make a lot of rules for things and you see kids go through those where like. Oh my gosh. Charlie will want us to do something. And before we play the game or or engage in the imaginary world. She has like this whole list of things. That are the rules. And then we'll do this and then we'll do and then you'll say this and then this is the other thing that has to happen and also this is happening and like and it's a very structured imaginary experience and that's a normal stage of childhood development is this like i love to make rules and put walls around my world because i'm just now understanding that that's kind of how the world works structures within it and i can make them yeah and It's just so it's so perfect. And i'll say that all the time like well. This is just the calvin ball stage of development. That's just what's happening right now. It's normal. It's charlie has gotten mad at me many times when i've been playing barbies with her or adults or whatever and i'm not saying exactly what she wants me saying. Well i'm so sorry. I did not know the rules going into this. Yes i've and cooper is entering that Yeah i they both that is i. Don't know the and calvin ball. I can use it the other way and say this game is total cavill which means we're just making it up as we go along right. That is really interesting though. Because that seems to reflect like a genuine real stage of like like you said child development but he put that in a comic you wouldn't you wouldn't know that unless you were a parent or or i don't know i think that's interesting. Yeah it's it's just it's a very insightful. Like way of yes. Yeah yes and if you're if you remember being a kid you've been there and if you are around kids you see Salsa hilarious yeah balls always hilarious.

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"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

Still Buffering

05:35 min | 6 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

"I walden books and then borders when walden books closed and by another calvin and hobbes book And hope that. I hadn't already read too many of the strips inside but you'd still read them even if you had over and over there were very comforting I always wanted to you. Know it's weird. Well now i guess is not weird so one of the things about now that i think about I loved calvin and hobbes so much. And i know i wasn't alone. I know a lot of other kids did to have this affection for that comic strip about if you haven't read it which it hasn't everybody but if you haven't read it's about a little boy calvin he six and he has a stuffed tiger named hobbs except when they're alone he's not stuffed. He's alive tiger named hops. But like a nice one. I know i said live tiger in that sound scary. Don't worry this is on a comic strip out a six year old boy constantly being in fear of real life tiger no their friends and they have fun together and then when other people around. He's a stuffed tiger again. Not sort of the thing And it's Good because i mean it's funny. It's clever but it's also about life and growing up and change and it's very philosophical It was it's weird that it it. It's four kids but so often they're like jokes and things in it that are not that are obviously going to be. That are not gonna land with a kid you know. They're obviously for the grownups who are reading it. but famously bill. Watterson didn't want to merchandise his creation. He didn't wanna bunch of like calvin steffi's and whatnot so i was thinking like it's weird. I never had a hobby. Because i loved hob so much but i guess it's not weird because you couldn't you can buy a hobbs now Why did he not want to he just kind of he wanted to do his art for doing it. Like he wanted to make his thing and put it out into the world and not like commercialize it and put a price tag on everything and And cheapen it to some extent..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

Still Buffering

04:05 min | 6 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on Still Buffering

"I really enjoyed shopping for cooper's most recent birthday because it was like. Here's here's a chew. Kabre action figure. Jack chia pet things that i can buy you. She loves these things. Cheaper copper was the pilot of the pretend plane we were on yesterday. Oh are they are. They are excellent inflight surprising. We got to our destination safe and sound I know i was shocked. I didn't think i didn't think the focus would be on flight but we're on goats but no no So speaking of pretend those good speaking of blame pretend this week. I wanted us to talk about calvin and hobbes. Thank you both for i. I assume you've both read some at least kevin hobbs. Oh yeah it was i. I read that it's been called the greatest or the last great newspaper comic or something like that. Something to that effect acknowledging how great it was and that it was in the newspaper in the comics. it was for a long time. The only one that i would read it was in the newspaper. Just open it straight to that didn't didn't get into dilbert. Never got into dilbert you. Have you ever checked out by the way side. Note like the lock horns are still at it. I don't know that. What about the marmaduke. That big dog every every comic strip was the big dogs in place. A big dog shouldn't be either dog but he's acting like a human smart you know is marmaduke. He's probably still up in there I just noticed that the lock horns were still at it. And i was like after all these years. I don't know it c. I a lot of those comics. You know i. I don't like to judge other other cardis. Work negatively. But you look like you. Got a lifetime gig. How how is this forever. Doesn't it used to joke about Because he used to work for a couple of different luke local newspapers that one of his editors told him. That was the one thing you could never eliminate from. A local newspaper is like to try to get rid of one of the comic strips like to replace it or update it he said because i guarantee you there will be like five people who will write you a not an call nonstop to angrily inform you. Yeah that marmaduke wasn't there. Yes that that was their favorite thing and you've ruined their sunday and they need it back and every comic strip has maybe a small but incredibly vocal devoted following. And and you just can't take any of them way. Gabby doing something right. I guess yeah. I mean for the longest time. Our dad had dilbert strip taped to the door of his office. He didn't know that's what i try. He didn't know. What are you doing So calvin and hobbes. I knew was in the paper. And i probably saw in the paper but i was one of those kids. I had all the books. The big lake nice grassy collections of calvin and hobbes Which existed. By the time. I was buying them because it came out. In nineteen eighty five the watterson i started publishing it in eighty five and then it ran to ninety five. Feels like longer clean ten years it does. There are lots of them. There's so many. And i mean in part like i own all of that so of course it shows like a lot. Yes you can buy the entire collection. It's like two big giant hardback heavy. Tomes of calvin and hobbes. If you so choose he'd be like sydney. Yeah but man. That was my favorite thing to do. When i was younger is we would go to the bookstore at the mall..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Harvard Classics

Harvard Classics

02:12 min | 6 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on Harvard Classics

"Introductory note thomas hobbes was born at westport now part of moms berry in wiltshire england april fifth fifteen eighty eight. His father was a clergyman of the church of england and he was educated at magdalen hall oxford whence he graduated in sixteen eight from this time till sixteen forty. He was with a short break. A member of the household of the earl of devonshire acting as tutor and secretary and traveling on several occasions on the continent as companion to the second and later to the third earl he the acquaintance of many of the leading philosophers and scientists of the continent including descartes cart die and galileo. He is also reported to have acted for a time as menu insists to bacon on the meeting of the long parliament. Hobbs fled to paris. Afraid of what might happen to him. On account of opinions expressed in certain philosophical treatises which had been circulated in manuscript while abroad. He published his decide containing the political theories later embodied in his leviathan in sixteen forty six. He was appointed mathematical tutor to the future. King charles the second but after the publication of the leviathan in. Sixteen fifty one. He was excluded from the court and returned to england. The rest of hobbes's life was spent largely in controversy in which especially in mathematical matters. He had by no means. Always the best of the argument. He lived in fear of prosecution for heresy but was saved by the protection of the king. He died december. Four th sixteen. Seventy nine hobbes's writings produced much commotion in his own day but his opponents were more conspicuous than his disciples yet. He exerted a notable influence on such thinkers as canosa live knits detoro and rousseau and the utilitarian movement led to a revival of interest in his philosophy in the nineteenth century. He was a fearless. If one-sided sided thinker and he presented his views in style of great vigour and clearness a great partisan by nature says his most recent critic. Hobbs became by the sheer force of his fears. Concentrated intellect a master builder in philosophy. He hated error and therefore to confuse it. He shouldered his way into the very sanctuary of truth..

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"hobbes" Discussed on Noble Blood

Noble Blood

05:51 min | 7 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on Noble Blood

"Some of them And that maryland was one who was consumed by the fame machine and princess. Diana became you know another and it was just. She was consumed by more. You know the royal family and british tabloids then by the hollywood treadmill or whatever it was and her presence is one that i think carries us potentially into really meaningful experiences of thoughtfulness and empathy. But she's also very accessible because she is kind of poured into the mold that we are most condition to find sympathetic and lovable. Partly because you know there's there's nothing less intimidating woman who's already dad like. There's a reason why so. Many of our beloved young women in society are murder victims. You know they're they're not very uppity are they. And it's also like the media then loves this idea like oh we all killed her like god did they the copa that self-flagellation of the the may copa. I think is an instinct that everyone kind of likes in. Let's not blame the very specific tabloids. Pacific editors who were like buying photos of her that were taken at night and clearly invasive no no. Let's not blame the people who actually made decisions. Let's blame everyone who was you. May know mabel jenkins. Let's blame literally everybody instead of the eight people who actually made her life to know it was all it was science. I think my big thing with diana is you can talk about the authenticity in this sort of clinical way but one of the things we mentioned on the show was that diagnoses of bulimia. I believe quadrupled in britain in the early nineteen nineties. Once she started talking about this because people were finally getting diagnosed. People were finally talking about it. And i think to me as somebody who lived in europe for eleven years i lived in britain. There's a huge problem with sort of official aristocratic european society. That does not talk about stuff and this was one of the things that diana really struggled with the she would go to these dinner parties. And you're not allowed to talk about anything real. You're not allowed to reveal anything of yourself. You just make this excruciating superficial small talk for hours and hours and it never ends. And i think one of the things that she really did was break that habit and point out that like. This isn't serving anybody like who. Is it helping for us not to talk about what we're struggling with. Why would we do this to ourselves. Why do we raise our kids this way and so. I think that it's a model that the solution to the things that diana struggled with in her life is not to push them under the rug. It's to bring them out into light and talk about how you're not a broken person for struggling with an eating disorder. You're not a broken person for like still dealing with the trauma of your weird cold upbringing and your terrible sandwiches like you're allowed to talk about this stuff. And so i think if there's a model it's really like bringing things into the light and talking about yourself as a whole person that you are beautiful and you wear these outfits and everything like can talk about the sparkly stuff but you can also talk with the dark stuff and that doesn't take away and one thing doesn't take away from the other that's beautifully said and i also want to go on the record finally and say look. I reject the dichotomy that people who are interested in Like fashion and closed are automatically frivolous that libya Like i think her her fashion is interesting. And and worth as worth talking about as prince charles's non expertise on welsh economic policies. A great men are interested in sports..

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Bonding: It's like 50 Shades of Gray... But Funny

Ask Me Another

05:25 min | 8 months ago

Bonding: It's like 50 Shades of Gray... But Funny

"Our first guest star in the netflix. Show bonding which is about a subject. We can't really talk about on a family show. Think fifty shades of grey. But funny. and you're kind of their brendan scannel and matt lucas. Welcome to ask me another high for having us welcome. I just want to start by saying. I love that bonding as a show as a topic exists. Absolutely it's definitely one of the shows where as it was coming out. I was like i wonder how my family is gonna feel about this. I'm like i'm deeply irish. Catholic has eight siblings and my dad has five in all my aunts and uncles are like love that show with all the whips and rather everything. Everything i ever do. I'm half-naked end so at this point. I'm just kind of used to it right at some point. You're like i and a hat that's too much to buy. I know this season. They had this season. They had a like a jumper made for me and with an apron over. And i was like whoa. I'm like i'm clothed. I'm actually fully clothed. Like what a strange turn. Sure all right well. Are you up for some games. Would you guys like to play some games. I love games. That's you do so you're gonna take turns answering questions in this first game. Here's what's going to happen. We're going describe fictional animals as if they were presented at a competition like the westminster dog show so some of these animals are dogs but some of them are not you. Just tell us the name of the animal or the title of the work that it comes from. Okay brendan this is for you next in the working group. We have a great dane who deviates from the breed standard. He's over five feet tall. The judge will never watch gate and look look at this. He's walking on hind legs. Some highly unusual behavior from this dog as he seems to be leaning over to talk to his handler shaggy. Yes he say shaggy. A i mean this has to be miscue be do. I always love the mask. Reveal they would have the double mask reveals to. It was a ghost and then like they took it off and it was someone and they took the mask off. That person someone else surprised at. How many people's first names were old man when we go them. I'm i'm definitely old man. Old man lucas. This one is for you. Okay this entrant. In the herding group was raised on a farm and found his true calling hurting sheet. He looks comfortable in the stack position. But the judge is a little confused by spoofs and curly. Tail says first time here at madison square garden but he seems to be adjusting to being a pig in the city babe pig. I never seen that. It's supposed to be adorable though it is it is pretty. I mean talking animals. I have no problem with talking animals. Yeah and pigs are so key. There's a there's someone in my neighborhood that has a pet pig and they walked i live. I live in the village and new york city. And like there's a person who has a pet pig And he walks the pet pig around my neighborhood. And it's really cute you very nick. I'm in brooklyn. No one has a pet pig. I feel like was something wrong here. Officially bushwick arianna guerande also has a pet pig. Really just out of curiosity. Is the pet. Pay any coats or call that ever. Although i do follow. Listen i'm gonna. I'm going to plug this. I follow this pig on instagram. Because he has an instagram account. Its arms giblet the piglet so you can like actually go check out given the piglet and see what i'm talking about and give you the piglet follows me. I feel very proud of him. That's very nice. Follow back for is give it active does giblet like comment and like what you're up to and i would just expect a lot of like political means. Yeah i guess if you ever get sick of it just like a couple. Bacon jokes over. Yeah all right. Brendan for you now. We have the toy group literally. This junior handler is a precocious six year. Old boy whose conversing with his stuff tiger while walking around the ring perhaps we don't see the tiger the same way he does. Oh i know this. Oh it's philosophers you guys. I'm very young this time it's i forget. Yes calvin hobbes. There you go.

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Seattle Small Business: How One Landlord and Her Tenants Survived the Pandemic

Bloomberg Best

05:02 min | 8 months ago

Seattle Small Business: How One Landlord and Her Tenants Survived the Pandemic

"To say with the your head holds for the real estate industry and the many businesses that occupy the commercial real estate landscape, But I will say to him, this is one of the things that we have consistently and constantly talked about stories across the Bloomberg every day about what the future is of commercial and residential real estate. Yeah, there are a lot of unknowns. If we think back to what happened in 2020, it was a real surprise to see residents real estate bounce back so quickly in some Areas of the country and be left behind and other areas. So far, the pandemic hasn't triggered a real estate meltdown on Main Street. But his business week uncovered time is running out for one Seattle landlord and her tenants. Tim is a personal story that's being told over and over again to him around the country because of the pandemic, and we got more from the writer of it. Bloomberg News Finance reporter Nobu Higher He joined us along with Seattle landlord he wrote about this done. She's found her done, and Hobbes. It's a small business. Both were in Seattle. Noah starts off by talking about how he connected with the subject of this Story. Listen, I actually started catting several months ago. I think it was in April or may of last year for a project that I'm doing for business week following small businesses in one neighborhood here in Seattle through the covert crisis and Um, over the months in several conversations with clothes. I was just struck by All of the sort of financial in business bonds that she had created. And, um, developing this, really, uh Double properties on this really cool block and Seattle just how how cove it was, was really putting a lot of those relationships under strain, and what I wanted to do was tell a story about real estate and small business and all of these links between people. And how they got through the 1st 10 months of the pandemic and what it might take to get them through the next time. So, Liz, come on in on this. First of all, has your year been Oh, Clara. Um it's been pretty challenging. I am doing small scale real estate for about 20 years and I survived through a couple of previous Crazy for 9 11, and then you know the economic meltdown. It started in 2000 and eight. But boy, this takes the cake for sure, well, and to be fair, and what's interesting, and it's one of the things we've talked about. A lot less is, you know companies big and small had to learn to pivot like I feel like I've used that word a million times over the past 12 months. You did as well and you had some things going for you in terms of You know where your real estate was located? What kind of tenants you had Tell us a bit about that. Well, I kind of operate at a scale that, um, really caters to locally owned small business. And so I love to renovate old buildings and then cram a bunch is Dollar users kind of into one project where it can create a real critical mass of, um, you know, interested in terms of retail and restaurants for the for the customers, and we're in a really great neighborhood called Capitol Hill. It's kind of you know, the cool, funky alternative neighborhood and Seattle and and, um, but you know, the problem is that the fall Family owned businesses are super vulnerable, and Noah and I discussed of my 20 some customers facing businesses on this One block, you know, they were all impacted in various ways. Bye bye. Shut down. Or other aspects of the pandemic. So no as you were doing your reporting and talking with Liz and unfolding this story, what struck you? Well, a couple of things one is just how, um How much the businesses that attends that list property were able to pivot and just sort of do what they could to keep revenue in the door. Another thing was just listens. Willingness, Tonto. Do whatever she could to keep them afloat. So what that meant a lot last year was had to go out to negotiate with her banks. The folks who have mortgages on her property and It's some sort of relief there so she could turn around and pass. Um, basically give her tenants some wiggle room. Um, and I think that's like a hugely important and underappreciated Aspect of what's been going on here. And you know, from the outside of this crisis, you know, I spoke with one of lizards blenders, the CEO of Home Street Bank. Which is a regional bank here in Seattle, and that their willingness to work with lives over the last couple months has just been huge. But I think live and Home Street also thought that this pandemic would be over by now. A lot of us did and so really the point we're at in this crisis. Now everyone's having to come back to the table now and figure out what makes sense. For the next several months.

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Arizonans 65 and older will be eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine starting next week

Dave Ramsey

14:28 min | 9 months ago

Arizonans 65 and older will be eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine starting next week

"This hour we took you live to the Arizona Department of Health Services Update on the covert 19 vaccine distribution. We had some technical difficulties, but we have those resolved and we want to bring you now. The rest of that briefing with all the details. Here's Dr Carol Chris, director of our State Health department. So now provide some updates on covert 19 vaccine and implementation of our program here in Arizona. One of the exciting updates that we made today. It is not this week that is not reflected on our chart. It will not be reflected until Tuesday, but Arizona made the decision that Arizonans 65 8 years of age and older are now prioritized. To be vaccinated against covert 19 in our prioritized phase one be along with our education and child care services and our protective services occupations, which includes law enforcement, corrections and fire. This recommendation was approved by the Arizona Vaccine and Antiviral Prioritization Advisory Committee, which is intended to protect those who are most at risk for severe outcomes due to Cove in 19. So we know that those there are over the age of 65 have all higher likelihood of hospitalization and death, and by be getting people vaccinated in several weeks from now we hope to reduce the strain on Arizona's hospitals. And you can find additional information on our website at easy Health. Doc Dub slash find vaccine. And on Tuesday, we will be updating that to provide clarity about which counties are going to be vaccinated the 65 to 74 year old age group at their vaccination sites. We also have counties that have moved into our prioritized. Phase one B and we have some that are fully in phase one B. So if you look at the map of Arizona, the counties that Aaron Black are still in phase one A. So does our healthcare providers and our long term care facility, residents and staff. When you look at our darker gray, that's the prioritized phase one be, so that's going to be the face that we just talked about. Currently. We are vaccinating age 75 older. Along with educators and child care and their support staff and our protective services occupations. When we increase to one be that also includes our Sent can keep our society functioning. That will be people who work in the transportation industry, including gas stations, shipping those types of things. The food industry, including agriculture. S so there's a large number of there's a large list of employees that are eligible for the one B category that is located on our website. Um But you can find out what what phase Each county is in, and we update this infographic daily, and you can link to it off of easy health. Doc Club slash find a vaccine. As of today, over 232,000 doses of vaccine have been administered statewide. So now we'll move into Arizona's vaccine allocation and administration. Over the next few weeks, A DHS will be working to increase access to vaccine increase the rate of vaccination into streamline communications. So as you look at the vaccine, I'm distribution overview. Arizona currently follows a local Allocator model for vaccine distribution. Our local part partners are the backbone of the vaccine program implementation and know their counties that are no they're partners and their counties the best so our federal partners every week provide our Arizona's allocation to the state. We divide that allocation of based on priorities to our local partners, who then will determine which providers in their local jurisdiction will receive that scene for that week. We collect all of those orders on Ben. We place Arizona's full order for that week, and then the federal government will ship those orders directly to the providers that we have ordered on behalf of as vaccine becomes more and more available. We will no longer need to use this local Allocator model and providers such as pharmacies, community health centers and physician's offices will be able just to directly order vaccine from the manufacturers. So this week we received additional first dose allocations of Fizer, which were distributed again. Toe America and Pima County's All 15 counties received Madonna doses, and so we continued to reserve given the unique storage requirements for our Fizer vaccine. We continue to reserve our Majority vaccine for our local or rural health departments. Um In addition to receiving that first those first doses of visor and Madonna vaccine we have received our second doses so that we can continue vaccinating those that I've already received their first US. And have had that either 21 or 28 Day waiting period. This is Dr Cara Chris State Health director, speaking at the Health Department's covert 19 vaccination rollout. Press briefing on Katie Our news 92 3 FM. So during the week of January, 18th Arizona will have been allocated 803,150 doses total. You can see how that's been allocated across the state. You can see at the bottom where we have prioritized our CDC Long term care facility partnership by providing them with the vaccine that they need to vaccinate our Our staff and residents that are long term care facilities. And then you can also see the number of doses that have gone to the state of Arizona. Um Not all of these doses of the 803 have arrived in Arizona. A number of these doses have been allocated to, um Have been ordered for our county partners and will arrive next week. They We anticipate that with the federal holiday. Usually they arrive Monday through Wednesday. We anticipate that they will arrive Tuesday through Friday of next week. So we continue to add additional sites for vaccine administration, So we have initial phase one and phase one B vaccination sites throughout the state. We have over 200 vaccination sites on our website. We also have activated the second phase of the CDC pharmacy partnership, which began the week of December. 27th. So we initially prioritized in phase one of that partnership are skilled nursing facilities, which are highest security, long term care facilities. Um As of the end of this week, all of those facilities will have had at least their first visit from CVS or Walgreen's, and they are scheduling appointments to start assisted living facilities throughout the state next week. So as additional state. Um uh, that scene becomes available, We will be adding additional providers we've had over 730 providers on bordered with a DHS and over 800 pharmacies statewide have enrolled in the CDC pharmacy program to provide in store vaccinations. We have talked on each week about the long term care partnership that CDC put together with our pharmacy partners. So our pharmacy partners code into the facility's and vaccinate the staff and residents of that facility. Um as of this week over 140 skilled nursing facilities scheduled to receive vaccinations, and they will begin vaccinating are assisted living and our group homes starting next week. We've got over 2000 facilities enrolled in the federal program where one of the states with the highest number of facilities enrolled, and our goal is to cover approximately 450,000 residents and staff over the next couple of months. So this is part of the infographic that we post each day on our website. If you look you can see by county what phase That county is currently vaccinating. The total vaccines and ministered along with the vaccination rate per 100,000. And so you can see statewide 232,000 vaccines have been administered. Um, This may not include some of the doses that are provided by our tribal Our federal partners is this is pulled out of the States Immunization registry. So to talk about updates and announcements of this week. On Monday, we had a soft launch of the State Farm Stadium Probate 19 vaccination site. So far we've administered over 20,000 vaccinations at that site, and we are averaging apart between 203 100 vaccinations per hour. We have booked tens of thousands of appointments through January 31st and anticipate opening up additional appointments. That will be between February 1st and February 28th. Those appointments will open up on January 19th at 9 A.m.. We're very excited. Because our partners have really made this endeavor possible. It's a whole community partnership. And again, we just want to thank the Department of Emergency and Military Affairs, the Arizona Cardinals and state from Stadium Blue Cross Blue Shield of Arizona, The Catherine and Ben I. V Foundation. Arizona State University and Walgreens. All of these, these groups are playing a large role at the site on D have made this possible. Way also are very excited about the launch of our second state run of vaccinations site. This will be located at Phoenix Municipal Stadium. We are still looking to see how many doses we will have available for that. For that site, so the number of appointments will depend on the available vaccine again. We're partnering with the Arizona Department of Emergency and Military Affairs and Arizona State University to run this site. Arizona State University currently runs a testing a saliva based testing site at this location and so they will scale up to provide vaccination administration. Again. Registrations for appointments are going to open up Tuesday, January 19th at 9 A.m. for this site. We updated our easy health. Dr. Hobbes Flash find vaccine website with an interactive map. You can go onto the map. It has all of the current locations with vaccine, you can select a sight and a box will pop up that has information about that site and a link to their registration. So not all of them. Not all vaccine providers are utilizing the state's vaccine management system. Some providers air using their own appointments software, but we will link to them whenever we have that information so that it's one stop shopping when you go to our our map. We will continue to update this map with additional vaccination sites as they come. In a couple of other exciting announcements, we have been expanding access. So a DHS activated the CDC retail pharmacy program. This is going to add up to 100 pharmacy stores over the next few weeks. The first pharmacies to come on board in Arizona are gonna be fries, Safeway and Albertsons. And so those will be included on our sites as we get notified, which pharmacies which specific pharmacy locations will have that scene? But they will be on our website and will be another source for those that are eligible to receive vaccine to go get vaccinated when this program becomes fully activated, more than 800 pharmacies will have covert 19 vaccine available in Arizona. We currently have more than 200 vaccination sites on our website that have received vaccine and this includes 45 community health centers as well. So if you are eligible and you receive care at one of our community health centers You could check on our website to see if they have received vaccine. And again just another update on helping our Arizona hospitals. We have been recruiting nurses with a nursing staffing contract here in the state. That's been one of our most successful endeavors. We are very excited. The majority of the nurses are here. When they arrive. They will stay on site for eight weeks with an opportunity to extend that On gesso. As of last week. 348 nurses have started work. We anticipated almost 200 more arriving this week again that We don't necessarily count them until we've heard that they have Arrived in the state and are attending on boarding at their assigned hospital. But we continue to work with our staffing contract to get all of the nurses that we can here in. Arizona State health director Dr Cara Crist went with her press briefing on covert 19 vaccine rollout that coming from the state Health Department. Go

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"Sex and the City" gets new chapter on HBO Max

Joe Pags

00:28 sec | 9 months ago

"Sex and the City" gets new chapter on HBO Max

"Is getting the revival treatment at HBO. Max. The new chapter is titled and just like that, and we'll star Sarah Jessica Parker, Cynthia Nixon and Kristin Davis came control who played Samantha Jones in the original Syriza is not returning. The revival will follow. Carrie Bradshaw, Charlie York and Miranda Hobbes as they navigate love and relationship in their fifties. Syria's will consist of 10 half hour episodes, and it's set to begin production in New York City in late spring

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"hobbes" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

This Day In Esoteric Political History

07:10 min | 9 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

"The holiday pageant. Those are the better songs anyway. They are the better songs that's left times because there are a lot older and they weren't written as lake cola jingles. Which are christmas songs are. Yeah there's feel so much of our modern world has been created out of this desire to draw contrast between us in the soviets and like we've completely forgotten the reasons for all of this but it's like all of this stuff is just totally made up. We just made up all of this. Like in god we trust is a good example that we make it up. We put it into schools. And it's like it's always been this way like well no it. It objectively hasn't we did for a very specific reason but we immediately forgot the reason as we did it turns out the reason for the season is to defeat the communists yes also seasons. Greetings is good too. I'm cool seasons greetings. It's been less. you even have holidays in there. Yeah that's been around for a long time as well. Yeah greetings as a greeting that goes back to the last third of the nineteenth century man. Let's all do that. There's a lot of other options out there. Like i said we've always been at war with christmas. So let's start to wrap up a little bit here. But i mean when we did our episode about thanksgiving one of the things i learned there was really fascinating. There was when roosevelt tried to move thanksgiving. It was because he wanted to extend the christmas shopping season and it was a reminder that this notion of the holiday season religious holidays being tied to commercialism has always been there that said i do think like that becomes a bigger concern in the latter half of the twentieth century. So how does that filter into all of this nikki. How does you know if we've now got fears of communism and we've got religious a religious war And we've got some geographic differences now sudden we have commercialism filtering in In how does that bring us up towards the present. The commercialism angle is really interesting right. Because it's actually the sort of center. Moral of the grinch stole christmas right. This fear that christmas was becoming too commercialized. And so that. Critique of the commercialism of christmas is already embedded in our christmas traditions You see it and all these stories that are focused on finding the true reason for for the season. But what's interesting is that. Those critiques of commercialism are muted because they don't cleave cleanly to our political lines That you know. There's not a neat package for it. And so it largely drops out of the war on christmas when the war on christmas becomes a more political event. That's interesting. I mean that also points to people like fox news or talk. Radio hosts or any sort of media person who's trying to whip up fears over some sort of moral panic that it's difficult to do that when the thing you're panicking about crosses partisan lines because if you wanted to whip up christian sentiment there's probably democratic christians and republican christians so that doesn't cleave and like a nice easy way but then once you get later than its just like everybody like this evangelical understanding of christianity and this will relive attack on it or whatever that is like very easily whipped up by republicans so just like a media market story than actual ideology. It speaks to a kind of splintering. What's happened in the country. Because even the churches have largely begun to divide along political lines. And so even that deeply embedded religious critique of commercialism is terrible for this holiday distracts us from the things that we should be concentrating on Doesn't get a lot of cross party or cross ideology traction. It's also you guys. I don't know what you guys are but you guys in black. Friday was not a thing i have a notion of. It's sort of becoming more and more of a thing. Yeah but there was a point at which it was. There was a time before it was riots. Yes that's true. I remember growing up. It was like you kinda were vaguely aware of it. But it wasn't a huge deal and then over the course of my lifetime. It's become kind of like a defacto holiday or something. It's it appears in the newspapers. It's this massive thing and it just like it was a weird niche thing when i was growing up and if you were ten years older than me it would probably be totally invisible for most of your life. The one that i do remember in my lifetime was is when creeped into even thanksgiving day. When you know come like big box stores would force workers to come in on thanksgiving afternoon. Yeah so they could open the doors and have that thursday. You know pre black friday on day. Yeah for crying out loud We should we should all talk about you know. We've talked about this sort of a cultural phenomenon media phenomenon. I do think in the seventies eighties nineties. This conversation about religion and the secularization of christmas does start to also become a proxy conversation for fears about white identity and about a cultural diversity in this country and immigration and sort of. You know all the stuff that we can draw through two to two right now. I don't wanna just treat this as a sort of media spat or whatever i mean. There's a through line of like america's a white christian country and if you lose merry christmas all of a sudden you know we're giving over our country to to those people. I really wanna draw a line underneath that jodi because one of the names that keeps popping up when it comes to the history of the modern war on christmas is peter breslow who is the founder of vita which is a white website and he was actually pretty popular and pretty mainstream in the mid nineteen ninety s with his attack on immigration. But the idea that he's one of these progenitor of the idea of the war on christmas and that he so deeply steeped in native ism And whiteness and this defense of the united states is a particular kind of country is really important to the point that you just made. I think they should make illegal for white nationalist groups to have the names of things that sound like cool skateboarding brands like there. Yeah it seems seems fine. Seems like some kids are into and it's like oh some of the kids are into it. Dang it and then. I guess we can bring it. Let's do it. Let's do this loop all the way back to where we started so in two thousand three in two thousand and four. We have peggy. Noonan and bill. O'reilly and i mentioned that peggy noonan was writing columns about this. I did not realize. I mentioned at the time and i will mention now that she actually pitched this into a sort of nine eleven context and so she said that the fact that her virgin mary statue the her neighbors on the upper east side it was. The upper east side. Did not like the virgin. Mary statue she put out was proof that quote the meaning and actuality of nine eleven has receded and obviously for talking postman eleven and religion. There's an element of islamaphobia here. I don't think it's a coincidence. That all this pops up post nine eleven also not exactly sure what peggy noonan means when another that newnan does either but i think that it shows you just how conflicted christianity and nationalism have become in the united states that you know complaining about a statue of the virgin. Mary has something to do with like losing your sense of patriotism and the meaning of america and that confusion of those things is.

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"hobbes" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

This Day In Esoteric Political History

07:36 min | 9 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

"On the war on christmas. Last episodes we talked about the twists and turns in recent years. Starting with bill. O'reilly doesn't move. So that was two thousand and four two thousand twenty and now we will do everything before two thousand four in one episode So i don't know do we wanna hook it to date. Let's say December twenty fifth three thirty six ad which many religious scholars point to his first date. That christmas was celebrated nikki. We're gonna go that far back in time Look i think that you can put down on three thirty six and we can move forward in time pretty quickly santa white. At that time. I need to important on those voices. Are nicole hammer of columbia. Hello nicki mary warren. On christmas jodi yes and michael. Hobbs is back host of the excellent. Podcast you're wrong about and maintenance fees and noted expert on religious customs during the reign of roman emperor. Constantine about three thirty six wearing a toga right now. Exactly so let's go back in time. Micky how far back where. Where do you wanna start. I want to start with the puritans. Because i feel like if we're going to go back to the war on christmas we'll we'll keep it just to the. Us and the world on christmas was basically how the american colonies were founded in a lot of ways. The puritans were not big fans of christmas. They thought that it was too pagan. They thought that it was to watch. The people are using it to drink and indulge indulgent other vices. And so they would do things like go work on christmas day just to make the point that they weren't celebrating that this was actually just a regular day. We're not doing anything differently. We're going to go to work. And then you have like by the mid sixteen. Hundreds boston outlaws christmas. They just outlaw any celebration of the holiday because again they see it as too much of a pagan ritual. Too much of you know. Not true enough to their religion So they just ex- the whole thing out. So this is a war on christmas from the other direction from the the more religious side of the spectrum. Ya exactly. it was christians against christmas. It's always interesting to me. Actually that the war on christmas people aren't more annoyed about like the commodification of christmas and the coca cola is ation of christmas. 'cause i grew up in a very christian household and my parents were frustrated by the fact that it had become the secular thing like. They wanted it to be more religious. They went out of their way to have religious references in the christmases that we had and they were like annoyed at the fact that it was in the all these malls and that it was like trees and santa and the secular symbols. And it's always interesting to me. That sort of starbucks like became the enemy in the war on christmas. But not in the way that it should have been. It's weird. sure. The story of christmas in the united states is the story of embracing the secularism of the holiday. Yeah that's so fascinating. Yeah we hinted at it a little bit last episode but yeah you see that when you look at this longer history of how swirling between what role does religion actually play in all of this and a lot of the defenses of christmas. The modern defences of christmas are actually defending it as a secular holiday. There isn't that much real religiosity in it. But it sort of has that the trappings of feeling like a religious war. We're actually. I think it's more of a cultural war. That said nikki when you look at some of the stuff in the sixteen hundred seven hundred eighteen hundreds and you can bring up. Some of the other incidents eight does feel like as shallow as the modern war on is. This feels like it's actually hinting at some big deep conversation. About how religious country is this new nation going to be. It's absolutely about that and that's why this is so important because there was a real struggle. Because people wanted to celebrate christmas. They loved that. It was this leak kind of junkin botched holiday that it had all of these traditions and it was this scolding christians who didn't want people to celebrate that way. They felt like the people were celebrating it wrong and that it was an entry wage all of these other kind of pagan traditions. And i mean this is something that you actually see in this moment in eighteen. Twenty six up at the at west point. The campus itself was a dry campus. But the idea that you had to have alcohol and you had to have debauchery to properly celebrate. Christmas led all of these cadets to smuggle whiskey and bourbon onto campus spike. The eggnog and it leads to something. Called the eggnog riot Because of all of the all new escapades they got up to once they wasted on whiskey. I thought that was just what happened at the kids table. Every christmas. it is a great It is a great little story. Eggnog riot of what is it eighteen. Twenty six. I was up at west point just driving through recently and i pulled out my phone and said i wonder if there's some podcast episodes about west point. I don't know that much about it. And i ended up listening to a bunch of stuff about the it. Is it sort of fascinating and again. Yeah it did get to these questions about religion but then in this case also kind of like the us military was starting to push in more sort of a standardized directions. Really want to close ranks and this felt like the last The last hurrah for a bunch of people who just wanted to like beat debaucherous and get into a bunch of trouble. I'm between the war of eighteen twelve and the civil war and also just the the history of egg-based drinks very itchy. Yeah like especially when we don't have good refrigeration life city. Yeah they you don't want to think about that too much. can i ask. Was it a family holiday at that time because the combination of debauchery and families interesting to me so this is actually a really interesting story because christmas had been very much a public holiday and that was what really bothered people so much because people would be out in the streets and they be partying and they would be drunk and engaging all of these vices and so one of the ways that they sought to temper. That was not just outlaw. The holiday which you know they brought it back by the by the mid seventeenth century But to begin to pitch it a family holiday. You know that. Christmas poem twas the night before christmas. That was all part of this idea of presenting christmas as home base holiday when that centered on hearth and family so that people would celebrate at home rather than out in public. Oh so it's kind of a story of cultural appropriation in some ways. It's like the transformation of this holiday. Everything is being appropriated in this. I mean we'll get into the christmas trees and you'll logs and all of these things but obviously like all of these traditions that we now associate very closely with christmas Where themselves appropriated first half in the middle of the nineteenth century Christmas does start to become a actual official holiday. And you know one interesting thing is that i think alabama louisiana and arkansas where the first states to declare the holidays and i was in the eighteen thirties eighteen forties and then it wasn't until eighteen. Seventy that it becomes a federal holiday. But even then nikki. You get this sense of you know. I don't think it's a coincidence. It's three states in the south. That are declaring this. And so i think you start to see those cultural and religious lines emerge even way back. Then yeah i mean part of the reason why you had that split is because remember. I think we might have talked about this when we were talking about thanksgiving In the south there was a real resistance to celebrating thanksgiving because it was seen as this yankee holiday that was being injected into southern culture and so in the south they prefer to focus.

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"hobbes" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

This Day In Esoteric Political History

02:34 min | 9 months ago

"hobbes" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

"It makes jon stewart's viewers more sensitive to anyone complaining about christmas being under attack. And so you have that kind of mutually beneficial relationship. That maybe isn't culturally that helpful. It also adds to the idea that we're under attack right because there's an entire tv show on comedy central. That is making fun of us and so contribute to that narrative. Sure for sure but do you guys. can i ask. Do you guys think that was a mistake. The daily show to sort of go in on making fun of right wing snowflakes. No i don't really think so. I think the constant question. These days is the question of amplification versus ignoring so on the one hand. You could say well. Yeah amplifying it and making it a bigger deal and drawing it out even more that these entertainers were talking about this topic year after year after year but we were also in a media moment in the two thousands when straight news outlets. Were not going to attack the war on christmas less. They look liberal And so in a way like stewart was probably one of the few voices out there that was going to call the war on christmas idea. Sham right now. I mean i think this falls into pretty clear you should punch up not punched down territory. And i think fox was big enough. That even comedy central and john stewart going after them. That's punching up you know. I think there's a lot of punching down that happens especially with social media. Where were you pluck something You know in the happens from the left all the time you plug something you make fun of it and in fact. You're amplifying it. But i think fox news was a big enough of a force. It needed that counterweight for sure. I want to talk a little bit abou the role of corporations nikki. You mentioned here and how a lot of these sort of freak outs are concerns. Were around corporate language and corporate moves So one is you know in two thousand fifteen. There's a big hubbub about the starbucks cups. Oh starbucks for many years had done holiday cups a lot of them often. I don't know if they ever had like christmas stuff on him specifically but they often had you know trees orf snowflakes snowflakes but In two thousand fifteen. They're just read cups with a green starbucks logo and that's their holiday cup and you know people are not happy about this and they see this as again encroachment And cowing and obi starbucks being overly pc there's a pastor actually Who posted a video that got millions and millions of us where he claims that he went into starbucks and gave his name as mary christmas so that he forced starbucks to wish him christmas and he really caught them off guard..

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Northeastern Student Detained At Logan Airport Has Been Deported

WBZ Midday News

00:31 sec | 1 year ago

Northeastern Student Detained At Logan Airport Has Been Deported

"A one an emergency court hearing this morning didn't go the way attorneys for an Iranian student wanted it to that's student was about to attend to spring semester at northeastern one last night he was detained at Logan airport and then deported judge stern said as hands are tied since Mohammad Shahab is already been deported customs and border patrol sent him home last night after holding him at Logan airport since Sunday to Hobbes attorney carried toiled says the removal happened in defiance of a court order granting Shahab a forty eight hour stay Doyle says the reasons given for deporting Shahab our

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Northeastern Student Detained At Logan Airport Has Been Deported

WBZ Midday News

00:40 sec | 1 year ago

Northeastern Student Detained At Logan Airport Has Been Deported

"A hearing at Boston federal court this morning after into Ronnie in student at northeastern was deported after being detained last weekend at Logan airport resulted in protests as well WBZ's Kim Tunnicliffe has more on a status hearing that one down from the Moakley courthouse judge stern says there's nothing he can do it since Mohammad Shahab was at Logan airport and not technically on U. S. soil when he was deported to Hobbes attorney Kerry Doyle is very upset that customs and border protection ignored judge borrows ordered that her client be granted a forty eight hour stay allowing him to remain in the U. S. for this morning's hearing Doyle says this has become a disturbing

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Aack! How Cathy Became a Mom

The Longest Shortest Time

01:55 min | 2 years ago

Aack! How Cathy Became a Mom

"I'm in kathy's house saint high too. Kathy's pet corgi drinking out of kathy's coffee mug. You know cathy. She made that famous newspaper comic strip that was nationally syndicated for over thirty years. It was called cathy so this is the kathy. Shrine is the tribute to my failed merchant licensing empire. The comic strips crater is also a kathy kathy guys white right now. We're in a tiny room off. Her kitchen by the door is a life sized. Kathy doll on the shelves. Are kathy figurines dressed up for mother's day. He kicked him here. We are on oh my gosh yeah so if you make the cake it actually is in the shape of kathy. Kathy character was known for her obsession with the four guilt groups food work work love and mom her honesty about her struggles paved the way for characters like bridget jones carrie bradshaw and liz lemon. I wanted kathy to be like garfield. It was but for women you know to be a little touchstone on working women's desk. You know it'll make her feel like somebody else's in. They're trying surviving but in the nineteen eighties he's no one wanted to be kathy even if they saw themselves in her greeting. Cards calendars did best. We tried many things. That did not work so well but it's fun to look at them now. Compare that to her peers peanuts calvin and hobbes newspapers are dying but they're merch is still selling when the kathy's drip retired in two thousand ten the trending topic on twitter that day was hashtag ways. Kathy should end the comic. Julie klausner suggested hoarding the experts arrived too late to find kathy flattened under a heap of diet aids cats and dating bucks which is so wrong. Kathy had a dog implies that any woman men who stays single without kids must be some defective spinster aunt while calvin and hobbes or your cool bachelor uncles with a sled.

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"hobbes" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

01:34 min | 2 years ago

"hobbes" Discussed on KTOK

"Hobbes it was just last month he was arrested after he broke through the roof of another convenience store and he hit in a crawl space until police were finally able to find him from the KT okay weather center and the four warn storm team warm muggy overnight a low of seventy two cloudy on Thursday a seventy percent chance of rain a high of eighty seven we have a fifty percent chance of rain on Friday and a high of eighty five I'll be back with more local news coming up at six o'clock I'm Beth Myers newsradio one thousand Katie okay radio one thousand Katie okay studios are service of universal men's clinic for medical solutions for eating yellow teeth learn more at universal men's clinic dot com as an added a loophole on immigration law today what does that mean I'm covering that and your thoughts on it three minutes newsradio one thousand Katie okay as the drive continues coming up this week you put a lot of time and effort into building the retirement lifestyle you want and you rely on the advice your financial adviser but have you ever stop to wonder is the advice you're getting actually useful if it doesn't meet these five requirements might not be it's the best advice you never received on it's all about the money Katie okay as most listened to weaken financial show Saturday at one PM on Sunday six your up at two AM warning about your iris problem again iris problems of a way of running all aspects of your life the ticket toll on you financially physically and emotionally you can never really forget about them as they come back every morning when you wake up.

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Box office preview

Todd Schnitt

01:18 min | 2 years ago

Box office preview

"The angry birds movie to brings the video game characters back to the big screen this time king mud beard is at war with the birds angelic creatures shows up threatening to start a new ice age and freeze everyone along with Jason sudekis Josh gad Leslie Jones Nikki massage and bill Hader lend their voices to this computer animated comedy based on the bestselling twenty twelve novel of the same name as the comic mystery where'd you go Bernadette the title character is a mother who hates people especially the fellow parents of her daughter's school the when she suddenly disappears our daughter seeks out the truth about what happened to our mother Cate Blanchett Billy Crudup Kristen Wiig Judy Greer and Lawrence Fishburne star Seth Rogan and his producing partners released their twelfth film good boy when three sixth graders are invited to the first coed party they try to learn as much as possible about how to kiss but a broken drone leave them on a wild journey involving paintball the cops stolen drugs and more this comedy stars Jacob Tremblay Keith L. Williams Brady Noone will for Terry still in theaters are Hobbes and shot the kitchen The Lion King once upon a time in Hollywood and door and the lost city of gold plus spider man far from home to a story for the art of racing in the rain the farewell hand

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Hobbes, Wayne Johnson And Luke Hobbs discussed on Glenn Beck

Glenn Beck

00:31 sec | 2 years ago

Hobbes, Wayne Johnson And Luke Hobbs discussed on Glenn Beck

"Office the first spin off of the eighteen year old fast and furious franchise Hobbes and Shaw earned over one hundred and eighty million and its worldwide debut defeating a king Hobson short teams Wayne Johnson's federal agent Luke Hobbs and mercenary Deckard Shaw Jason Statham yeah I'm trying to save the world which for the record one because I'm really good at it odds and show had a strong opening that to throw in the lion king after a two week reign at number

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Summer Movie Preview

Popcorn with Peter Travers

12:32 min | 2 years ago

Summer Movie Preview

"The movies of summer twenty nineteen. What is out there? What's going to happen? And I've got to start by saying you think maybe that summer begins on your calendar near the end of June. But not in Hollywood everything in Hollywood begins early because summer is when they make all the money that they can make all year. So officially April twenty six it's the beginning of summer because the movie that opens on that day is called a ventures endgame. This is three hours long. Nobody's gonna care. I predict that not only will this be the biggest box office hit of the summer, but it will be the biggest box office hit of the year. You remember what happened last time all the ventures or at least half of them seem to turn to dust than die mean? Now have those ventures that are left to signing if they can beat the evil fan. He so evil will the adventures be wiped out forever. Look how much money did these movies make I'm saying why would you basically kill the golden goose? This is going to continue in some way, we all know it. So what else is out there? I'm looking at my list. There's a major thing going on now of in terms of taking the Disney slash Pixar animated classics and turning them into live action movies. So we have The Lion King line king. One of the most successful Disney animated movies ever is now being done as a live action movie. You have Donald Glover being Simba. You have James Earl Jones actually being this father and the same scores. They're the same using. And it's directed by John Fabbro who did such a great job with the jungle book doing the same thing that I think we can all feel optimistic about what's going to happen. And then we have Aladdin when we remember the. Animated movie who do we remember the most? We remember Robin Williams doing the voice of the genie. This time doing the voice of the genie and being the genie. We have Will Smith. So big stars in this big kind of thing, they tried it with Dumbo earlier this year, and that didn't quite work the way they wanted to do. But we're talking about lying king and the Ladan so big deal. Now, what terms of old fashioned animation is out there. I don't know if you're like me. But there's a Toy Story four toy stories always been my favorite of those Pixar. There's something about Woody and buzz light year, and you're probably saying to yourself. Well, and Toy Story three didn't it happen. That would he said goodbye, Andy. And he went to college, and it was all over remember. There was little Bonnie Andy gave his toys too. So we're going to have little Bo peep comeback. I think when you look at what goes on in Toy Story, you have that kind of feeling of goodness of field. Goodness, but done with all the magic of Pixar. So if those adventures out there are going to have a run for their box office money. I would say Toy Story. Four is going to be the one that does it. So what else we now have men in black men in black international? You're not gonna see Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones anymore. But this time you have Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson. As new agents who are out there in this men in black universe. Sometimes you say to yourself do I want more of that? And you never know to actually see it. And I can only tell because I haven't seen this movie yet. But it looks like there's chemistry there. Then we have Spiderman far from home. You know, the Spiderman franchise never seems to end either. But we have Tom Holland who played him last time charmingly, I think, but now spider man, Peter Parker. They're taking a European vacation and the villain that they run up against is mysterious. Played by Jake Jilin. All I just think they're still some special sauce in the Spiderman universe, and I expect this one to also be a major hit. Godzilla Godzilla king of the monsters. I see that. And I go how much can they work this poor God's, but you can look at the trailer and see it. I like the idea that aside from viewer for Megan who is in it, Billy Bobby Brown from stranger things is in its she the dynamo. So if God Zillah can basically meet his match betting on little Millie to do something with that Hobbes and Shaw, this is fast and the furious you remember the rock of playing the the law man, and Jason stefon playing the outcast and the rebel these guys. I don't know if this is Hollywood kind of thing, but they tell us that Jason stadium and the rocked wing Johnson. Don't really like each other. And maybe that what the reason we love these characters and show so much because we liked that conflict. I don't know it seems a PR stunt to me, but I'm going to be there because this cars. There's the rock and their Stefa. So you're going to be there to and you know, it, oh and the big deal. Now, everybody has just in the midst of welcoming game of thrones back to their lives. The last season of that. You can't bear to live in a world where you can't see the stark sisters anymore. Well, now, you can dark Phoenix, which is part of the X men universe. Bring Sophie Turner, and she's Jean grey this character that we've seen before. But she's this younger version of her and she split between the good side of her and the dark Phoenix side of her. And to me, these girls are tremendously talented in what they do on game of thrones. And I think we're going to keep seeing them through the years, but her sister her at least game of thrones sister, maisy Williams is in new mutants part of that universe too. But in this case, they're all new characters to do this. They're all gonna be in the X men universe. Doing it. So that's it for the blockbusters that are out there. You've got everything from animation to comic book characters to everything. And that's the stuff that you hear about that your friends are going to talk to you about. But there's gotta be other stuff to part of summer is comedy of. I think we all really have gone through a long winter. And we're saying make us laugh give us something that will just make say, whatever. I can just sit back and not think. So what's there for that? There's a movie called longshot. This is a movie in which Charlotte Theran is playing the secretary of state who is running for president. But falling Manley in love with who staff throw in. Okay. It's like, a beauty and the beasts thing going on here. Seth Rogan is her speechwriter all of her people say what are you doing? You're going to destroy your career. But no, it's love. And if you don't laugh at the combination of Seth Rogan, Charlie staring. There's nothing left for you. And then we have the hustle. The hustle is a movie that used to be called dirty run scoundrels where the old days it was about conman. Now, it's con- women. They're played by Anne Hathaway and rebel Wilson. And they basically go all cross the continent finding rich people whose money they can steal pretty people. Glamour? What's wrong with that? Oh, book smart. This is directed by the actress Olivia Wilde, and it's about girls graduating from high school and saying we spent all our lives with our head in the books. Everybody else is going to parties and having fun. So they're going to do that beanie Feldstein plays one of them. She is the sister of Jonah hill and real life and Jona hill did super bad. This is kind of the women's version of super bad everything in it works, like a charm. You're really going to like that one. Then we have a movie called late night. This is about the TV talk show world and Emma Thompson plays. Probably the only woman on late night TV who hosts her own show, but she's got only men on her writing staff, and then she hires Mindy Kaeling who also wrote the screenplay of this movie, very very funny about what happens when you put women into what basically has been. A male bass they end of doing this. And the combination of Mindy king writing for the great Emma Thompson and watching them perform together is just so you've got to see that one to my favorite kind of thing. The dead. Don't die. You've got to admit that is a great and funny title. It comes from the indie, directing great, Jim Jarmusch. And it's cut people like Bill Murray and Adam driver by zombies. Okay. If Bill Murray is going to go out there and get laughs. Sizing up zombies. I'm going to be there watching him do it. So we have a good chance for laughs horror. I've got to talk about it now because it's not just the Cajun. Oh movie harm movie that makes money any makes people talk and get happy. It's they're everywhere. Now child's play do you? Remember the old child's play movies where you had Chucky. The crazy nut doll that. Always terrified me. Just. This doll who looks kind of little bit weird and freckly, but he has a voice on him like a longshoreman guess who's doing the west now of Chucky Marquel? Mark Hamill, Luke Skywalker. And from what I've seen of it in. It's just been a little bit of it. It's wonderfully malevolent, so I'm going to be there to see that one. Then there's Annabel comes home. Another doll another possess doll also part of the conjuring universe where a viewer for Megan Patrick Wilson. Or the demon knowledge is that tried to make sure that nothing bad can come of this horrible doll Annabelle, but Bill will destroy and I will be there to watch her. Do it then them that follow their certain titles that get me them that follow really gets me? And it's about a snake handling church in Appalachia. No, they there are there colts. And they're almost religious cult where people pray. But they have the snakes, and they hold the life thinks pass them on. And you're thinking, what are you tell me about this like CD movie Har movie will guess who the star of this movie is the freshly minted Oscar winner Ogilby Coleman from the favourite, she's tossing those snakes around so irresistible. I think you're gonna love it. Then there's the Nightingale. See it's does not stop. It's har- everywhere. The night and gas from the director, Jennifer Kent who did a thing a couple of years ago called the baba Duke, which gave millions of people nightmares. And now she's back there following a woman who is chasing a convict got to be hooked. And then midsummer midsummer directed by REI Astor who last year gave us hereditary with Toni Collette, a really scary movie. Now, it's at a nine day Swedish holiday where everybody celebrates. But they'll be no celebrating after this one. So we. Got a lot of stuff out there. That's just going to scare us witless. And I couldn't be happier. All right. When summer comes. We think of all the things I've just talked to you about blockbusters comedy horror action, the rock of everything is there, but every even in a season like this. It's all about money and getting us into our theater, there are those movies that can come out entertain us. And also will hear about them at the end of the year when the Oscar nominations come out and the number one movie on that list, and the one that I haven't seen anything of India's of anyone that saw even anything past the trailer is called once upon a time in Hollywood it is written and directed by Quentin Tarantino its stars in order to Capri, oh as a TV star on the wane in Los Angeles. And Brad Pitt as his stunt double whoever thought of

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Feds Find Kentucky Fails To Meet Standards For Worker Safety

NPR's Business Story of the Day

04:36 min | 3 years ago

Feds Find Kentucky Fails To Meet Standards For Worker Safety

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from internet essentials from Comcast. Connecting more than six million low income people to low cost high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more. Now, they're ready for anything Kentucky's worker safety agency has a whole lot of problems. That's according to a recent audit by the federal occupational safety and health administration or OSHA from the Kentucky center for investigative reporting. Eleanor clemen off details fatal flaws in Kentucky's worker safety program. On what would have been her forty third wedding anniversary. These hubs stands in the front yard of camp. Pious the farm handed down through her husband's family for generations. She watches as the very same dump truck that killed her husband rolls down her country lane in December twenty sixteen pious. Gene, Hobbs was raking gravel with the meat county public works crew. When dump truck number two to five backed over him, the driver, then accelerated forward hitting him a second time Hobbs was crushed to death. Hey, let's hear that one no backup beeper no backup people more than a year later when Lisa hob sees that same truck number two to five reverse. She here's how nothing has changed on the day of her husband's death, both I witness and a state trooper said the trucks backup beeper was not audible Hobbs might not have heard the truck coming but Kentucky ocupation safety and health said the beeper wasn't a problem that was after testing it on a quiet street hours later, the same inspector failed to interview the sole eyewitness and overlooked possible worker safety violations at the worksite while the shortcomings are very concerning. Jordan Bearup is a workplace safety expert who ran federal OSHA under President Obama identifying the causes of these incidences also vitally important because otherwise the employer doesn't know how to avoid the next incident. Gene, Hobbes's case is not the exception. In fact, it's the norm. That's according to an annual audit that federal OSHA conducts of all twenty eight state run workers. Safety programs. The most recent audit of Kentucky which covered fiscal year. Twenty seventeen was sharply critical depiction understaffed under resourced agency. That's failing to protect Kentucky's workers federal officials, specifically criticized how the state investigates worker deaths in a statement, the federal department of labor said it's working with Kentucky on a corrective action plan Berube said the feds have the authority to take over state run programs that don't meet federal standards having a state program is a privilege, not a right of the states. And certainly it requires states to address rapidly and seriously any problems that are identified by federal OSHA, it Kentucky labor cabinet declined to comment. But speaking to w k MS public radio in April. Then labor secretary Derek Ramsay explained. How the state approaches companies about possible worker safety violations, we're going to educate we're going to educate we're going to educate and we're going to educate. And then satay without a really strong enforcement unit. These voluntary compliance assistant programs are not gonna be able to do the job. Laura stock is the director of the labor occupational health program at the university of California, Berkeley, she said what's happening Kentucky reflects a national trend. Republican governor Matt Bevins' administration has been strongly pro business and anti regulation when gene Hobbs was run over by a dump truck Kentucky issue, no violations or fines to his employer a state worker safety supervisor wrote in an E mail that Hobbes walk behind quote and apparently completely compliant. Dump truck backup alarms working the supervisor added that Hobbes quote jus- zig when he should've zagged we know that the truth, it's not the truth federal OSHA agreed with gene Hobbes's widow. Lisa in a report the agency found the state failed to interview the eyewitness missed possible worker safety violations and hadn't done enough to test. The dump trucks backup beeper. We're not the only. One. There's a lot out there Kentucky occupational safety and health investigated forty four deaths in a two year period. According to the federal audit, there were serious shortcomings in a vast majority of those investigations for NPR news. I'm Eleanor Clinton off in Louisville.

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"hobbes" Discussed on On The Media

On The Media

05:00 min | 3 years ago

"hobbes" Discussed on On The Media

"To roll back that kind of empowering of the individual to call out the injustice of the status quo in what that requires for hobbes is a kind of absolute sovereign power to govern speech whereas lock liked argument yeah absolutely because argument is how we learn he begins to think about civility really in a different way he says well if we're going to disagree productively what are the constraints that need to be in place on how much difference a tolerant society can have so we can only disagree within a kind of span of what we might call reasonable disagreements so one limit is that you can't tolerate atheists because you can't have a civil disagreement with an atheist basically his view that lock is also really adamant that you can't tolerate catholics because they see themselves as being loyal to the pope the pope so one of the main reasons why we called you is that when you approached this study of civility you were yourself a civility skeptic yeah i saw routinely how charges of incivility were used as way as to stifle debate and that civility was very often a tool of marginalising the marginal and suppressing dissent and then you discovered someone who changed your mind roger williams a radical puritan and founder of rhode island he was banished from the massachusetts bay colony basically for refusing to shut up that's exactly right he's an uncompromising puritan english calvin est and on his own terms most of the puritans of massachusetts bay were not christians at all they were sinners and he thinks his duty to tell them that at every opportunity he's a really difficult intolerant puritan so i assume that rhode island was an intolerant place that is the assumption that we would tend to make but exactly the opposite happens when roger williams banished from acid she sits bay and found the town of providence on a gift of land from the narragansett tribe with which she was very friendly he opens it up for other religious dissenters who've been banished from the colonies to come and worship freely why i mean william's idea was that in order to have spiritual or religious purity you were going to have to have an absolute wall of separation between church and state and between civil society and religious society so rhode island becomes the first society in the world not to have an established church so who lived there i mean what sort of dissenters descended on rhode island rhode island became known as a rogue's island and the latrine of new england because basically everyone who was too wild or uncivil to be tolerated in the other colonies found themselves they're so catholics jews and then also pagans or american indian nhs but what's really exceptional here and where he goes farther than anyone else really and i think farther than even people like jefferson is that williams thinks that not only do all these eroneous doctrines all these aronie has consciences have this right to live together and civil society they all also have a right and a duty to evangelize for their errors everyone has to be incredibly annoying is what you're saying and it's not all the time it's not twenty four seven although williams himself seem to have quite a lot of stamina but it's the idea that part of what it is to live in the world is to have the courage of one's convictions and to care for the souls of one's fellow citizens and if you think you're right then you have a duty to try to convince others that they're wrong politely it's not that you have to be polite indeed this kind of noholdsbarred evangelical debate is going to be the cause of a lot of offense i think you know one thing i think williams would want us to think about is why we set the standard for success so high surely unmerciful coexistence itself is a precious achievement and if we keep on making the best the enemy of the good in social life than we really do risk losing these kinds of you know yes they're minimal yes they seem maybe less than spatial but that there's actually something really really precious about not killing each other yeah this unrest coexistence we can't take it for granted so when applying the lessons of rhode island to the nation today people aren't engaging.

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"hobbes" Discussed on The Steve Deace Show

The Steve Deace Show

01:49 min | 3 years ago

"hobbes" Discussed on The Steve Deace Show

"That's good but he was correct over thomas hobbes in this area the reason i came across as that i took your advice after 2016 and i went back and studied america's found dacians so number one alex you are wise at the end of your email about the pot debate to point out were only exploring this topic because you were following through on what i was urging our audience to do so you played to my own fear of hypocrisy and it worked so props to you the reason it'll get into the pot debate as it is twofold one um i i just i grew up around at a lock my dad must have death raise me was a pot dealer i went on nickelanddime runs whose of almost weekend occurrence as i was growing up and it did make him cooler it did make him nicer funner to be around did the exact opposite actually made a bigger dish back but just as i've talked about this when it came to domestic violence wall personal experience gives you an awareness it also may give you a bias at the same time so i am hesitant to in this case joost different in the abortion issue is a life abortion only ends a life you see what i'm trying to say that there is not a counterargument it it it it's strictly is a killing it's nothing else other than that it does it accomplish is nothing other than a killing.

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