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Ep. 25 - Economia e os desafios ps-pandemia

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Ep. 25 - Economia e os desafios ps-pandemia

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Episode 437: What makes a Trend? Join me in a creative conversation with Hitomi Gilliam, Francoise Weeks, Rebecca Raymond and Colin Gilliam as we plan the upcoming Trend Summit 2020

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Episode 437: What makes a Trend? Join me in a creative conversation with Hitomi Gilliam, Francoise Weeks, Rebecca Raymond and Colin Gilliam as we plan the upcoming Trend Summit 2020

"Hello again and welcome back to the slow flowers. podcast with Deborah Printing episode. Four hundred and thirty we seven. This is the weekly podcast about American flowers and the people who grow and design with them. It's all about making a conscious choice and I invite right you to join the conversation and the creative community as we discussed the vital topics of saving our domestic flower farms and supporting a floral industry. It relies on a safe seasonal and local supply of flowers and foliage. This podcast is brought to you by slow. FLOWERS DOT com the free nationwide in wide online directory to florist shops and studios who design with American grown flowers and to the farms that grow. Those blooms is the conscious choice for buying and sending flowers and thank you to our lead sponsor Florist Review magazine. I'm delighted to serve as contributing editor for slow flowers. Journal found in the pages of Florus Review our partnership wood floors review is such a valuable one providing a forum for beautiful and inspiring hiring editorial content in the slow flowers journal section month after month. Take advantage of this special subscription offer for members of the slow flowers community at Deborah printing dot com where you can also find the show notes for today's episode four hundred thirty seven our first sponsor thanks goes to the Association of Specialty Cut Flower Growers Formed in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight eight. CFP was created to educate unite and support commercial. Cut Flower growers. I its mission is to help growers produce high quality floral material and to foster and promote the local availability of that product. Learn more at. As CF DOT ORG HITOMI GILLIAM AFDC base floral design educator. An innovator as as well as a fellow contributor to Flores Review in two thousand eleven she launched a collaborative inclusive conference called trend summit designed as has an immersive trend. Discussion led by a team of influencers covering a variety of topics including wedding flower. Trans- Trans- summit has taken place every two or three years. Since held mostly in Vancouver. There was one year when it was held in Dallas. The summit has grown and evolved to the point where it's almost a full full-week with numerous floral design workshops and demonstrations all sorts of ways to draw you in engage. You connect you this year. It takes place March twelfth. Oh through seventeenth at United Floral. where the famed Vancouver Flower Auction is? Based outside of Vancouver. Hitomi is one of those rare individuals who share shares a spotlight and platform with her peers. Her students and her contemporaries and two thousand eighteen. She invited me to present the slow flowers floral insights and industry the forecast for two thousand nineteen during the trends summit symposium a one day session open to the larger floral community NBC and beyond it was such such a great experience and truly an honor to be given a place at the podium in what some might consider the mainstream floral community. I was so touched. The Hitomi shine a light on my work was slow. Flowers adding sustainability floral sourcing and Eko practices to the conversation. Well for twenty twenty. There are so many events Vincent activities planned. It's all kicking off on March twelfth and going through the seventeenth as I said but the first two days are the trend roundtables when we focus on a variety of themes important to the future of Flora Story. This is an opportunity to be introduced to some of the newest products from participating vendors and growers who will also be involved in the discussion in addition to Hitomi I will join Gregor Lurch. Holly Chapel Susan McCleary Francois's Weeks Rebecca Raymond and Colin Gilliam for this riveting event with a Tomi Colin Rebecca and Francois's in early December. I spent two full days brainstorming. The round table format. We sat in the cozy living room of Hitomi delightful home on Bowen Island. which is located a short ferry ride across Horseshoe Bay north of Vancouver with a view of water mountains trees and nature? It was a working session that doubled as an unforgettable retreat. We cooked up some key topics that will see the conversations at the conference botanical hard goods and accessories lifestyle shifts wedding styles as well as emerging emerging floral design styles. I think you'll love hearing our dialogue and perhaps you'll be tempted to join us in March you might want to attend Thursday night March twelfth when Leonidas iceman Baseman of the Pan tone color institute will present her insights on color or later on Sunday. When all these fabulous designed innovators will present during the symposium? Here's a bit more about the guests you'll hear in the conversation today. Tell me Gilliam is a Japanese Canadian. Floral Artists Lecture Demonstrator Straighter Educator and a consultant in all aspects of the art and business. A floral design. She's the creative director for design. Three five eight. She has guest designed extensively throughout North America. England Japan Mexico Taiwan for Muda Singapore Hong Kong Australia New Zealand Colombia Belgium mm-hmm Korea and India she owned and operated setsu Ke's Flores in mission British Columbia for Twenty eight years. She currently works with her son. Column Gilliam William in an event and education business designed three five eight which was established. Ten years ago. Tell me his lectured at major art museums and floral shows around north with America and beyond and she's the founding organizer of the annual survival of the creative minds. Conference held Taus New Mexico. Francois's spas weeks born in. Belgium has infused her work with a quintessential European reverence for flowers and nature combined with creativity mechanical ingenuity she has crystallized crystallized her singular style of textual woodland's and botanical. Who Could Chore Pieces? Garnering a global following Francois's studio is located in Portland in Oregon. Her innovation and love of teaching have brought her to the Flower School Co Him in China. The Academy of Floral Art in Exeter England studios in Australia trillion and Mexico workshops that may ash and flora abundance and to the La Hoya and Memphis Garden clubs. Her dynamic work has been published in fusion flowers. There's more modern wedding flowers. The HUFFINGTON post flutter and male you her generosity of knowledge and perspective in USA florals structure and mechanics in addition to the business of being a florist unite to create rigorous and exciting learning opportunities for students to explore all that nature has to offer Rebecca Raymond Emond. EMC is owner of Rebecca. Raymond Floral. She's one of the most respected and sought after floral designers in the Pacific Northwest Rebecca collaborates closely closely with each of her clients gets to know their hopes and dreams and then works with color texture and architecture to bring their vision to life whether it's a bridal bouquet or floral installation Rebecca sources both seasonal and curated fresh flowers to design beautiful eclectic arrangements that reflect the moment and create memories to to last a lifetime as a member of organizations at the cutting edge of floral design including chapel designers. Rebecca has access to a network of leading designers and ongoing professional schol development opportunities. She's always looking for the latest and best techniques and design ideas for her clients. Colin Gilliam partner with Hitomi in design three five eight has been photographing flowers for more than a decade. His work has been published in numerous books as well as in floors review and floor creative magazine. Assume and of course you know me. Please visit Deborah Printing Dot Com to see a few photos of the planning retreat. We had on Bowen Island and follow links to all of these guests guests and their individual projects also have a link to the trend summit registration. Page where you can see the program and prices for attending. Let's get started. Welcome back to the slow flowers podcast with Deborah reprinting and we have a very special episode today. This just happened spontaneously. I've put my friends on the spot and they've all agreed to be part of this conversation. We are On Bowen Island in British Columbia at the home of Hitomi Gilliam. Hi Tammy and her amazing business partner in the Sun Colin Gilliam Haikal. Hi Nice to describe you correctly. The boss and France was weak. Side France was passed. Guest of his podcasts. Actually most of you have been except for Colin and Rebecca Raymond Rebecca. Thanks for jumping in and saying yes here. It is and so I feel that the the last twenty four hours. We've been trying to rapper heads around this future thinking and the reason is because you're producing trends summit twenty twenty and there's something really magical powerful about the idea of twenty twenty so absolute. Give us a little snapshot. Hitomi of the trend summits lifespan when when you started it. And what does he become now. because it's coming up again in March of two thousand twenty. Yes it's a very very exciting actually started in two thousand eleven. That's how we get our first one and we did it in Vancouver. I mean just in our hometown you take on the sideline you gotta kind of do it. Where logistics is easy easy and then I think we did in two thousand thirteen at the Dallas market and then back and two thousand sixteen so there was a three year gabby main every two years except for that little gap and that was back in Vancouver in Vancouver last year? And we've made it now definitely into every two years and it's it's really exciting because it's it's an opportunity to be involved in the conversation of what's the future transfers in in floor astray way and it encompasses the whole industry right from the grow our right to the end user. We are interested in conversing and discussing trends ends with everyone to educators. The wedding people event people the grow our supplier etc etc.. So that it's really become a much more Sort of consolidated that inclusive inclusive exactly opinion because people think trend are created by a couple of people that kind of puts it together. Don't you while I feel like we talked about this yesterday. There was a perception that it's top down like somebody up in ivory tower. Our is saying this is the trend and I think as a group. We all agree that it's not at all what we want to have happen to be bottom up. Yeah like we all want to. I believe that this is all good for all of us rather than you know. Sometimes some some trend maker says this is going to be like all looking at each other Gulf were that I don't see that combination so you know we just feel like this is really a much more inclusive. Everybody's invited to join and agree disagree so that we can all come to a final decision that seems to be unified for all of us. Okay let's back up a second. What prompted you to even do this? In the first first place in two thousand and eleven years like a busy body and you always have to be at the at the heart of all the conversations. He was really. That's exactly what we talked about. What what I just said the some of the trends that came up came down the pike for us? Say this is what it's going to be and it wasn't true for me on on. I thought when I come from why was involved in that conversation. I mean in those days it was I was no better than anybody else. Everybody has opinion. You know what applies their star and you know you see trend saying that you should have this and I'm thinking at that would that would go because there's a lot of regionality all of that converter and your personality the way you develop on store so I start in our like. Is it possible to do this together as a group that was my first data. That's what it was. Wow Yeah So the reason that We had this planning session is that I. I don't know columnist was was last year the first time you did it with the two days of of group like group think almost no. It's always been from two thousand today group discussion think-tank come back over the years we've added to made it more of A. Uh All encompassing kind of with some workshops since we have such amazing designers speakers coming down it would be a shame not some of our local designers and this is coming from out of town to take advantage and take work. Just why we have Francois's here but let's just talk. I WANNA talk to Francois Rebecca about what their roles are. But let's just talk about this two days of you two hundred fifty people in a room and actually stay on task and stay on the schedule and actually have these. It's almost like these. These guided conversations that we're going to have on different themes in flora street. Is that sort of how we move through. So let's use one that we intend on doing as an example apple. And that's going to be a wedding style trends for flowers. How will that work will will we aware and have ten groups of five people? The the group leaders will be the the feature speakers and the key staff and experienced designers who lead the discussion. That's exactly right. So they're small group. This discussion sort of dispersed in in groups. And it's thirty minute solid discussion on the topic at I. Definitely I need my son poem on that as time keeper because I'm one of those people that go on and on and on and I can occupy that when our myself forever so well. It's like a very concise discussion and then sharing that the results of each one of those discussion in the next half hour so that it'd be caps one hour slots so basically. We have ten topics five topics per day. So that's that's how it's GonNa work and then we kind of see what bubbles levels up. Yeah she's a collective conscious yes because you know. Some groups will come up with similar because fat but the thing is it's still being hashed rushed out amongst all these people from all the different than us of this industry want to think about the term trend. I'm always resisted is as someone taught me about a decade ago of abusing a phrase called cultural shift which I like to refer to as something that is more in the general direction that That topic is going and I feel like you've been talking about direction and moving in a better direction for the forestry industry so it seems like it's all these these optimistic hopeful future futuristic themes because of the change in the decade. Yes yes I love what you just said because that's exactly what it is. It really isn't that you have to just jump onto a trend. It's kind of like. How should we be looking at this S. industry to continue in the positive path and steps that we take towards it? It's up to individuals to decide to what level that they go in. These steps sped it. Just we should all decide as an industry. What direction is the favorable direction for? All of US sustainability. Yeah yeah and I feel like there's sometimes uh-huh you work in your in your isolated studio and you don't realize that what you're doing is mirroring. Maybe what other people are doing. I mean the example I think of with you Francois's the Woodland Oakland designs. Some would say you started that. Trent how did that. But but you didn't sit there one day and say I'm going to start doing this like how did that evolve love and look at where it's where you've taken it and how many people you've influenced I feel like that's that's been really fascinating to watch and I don't want to call it a trend because I feel like it's a Static style but what. What prompted you to start do we? Not and so it all starts with childhood memory and When I was a kid we went to Switzerland and My siblings and I would make little design some bark and give them to my mom wrongdoing high mountains and I told a friend Abadan. She told me to run with the idea. And so I mean decades later resonant president. Boris three forty five years. Awhile House I I made a log arrangement and then it kind of somebody Couple of months later saw pictures and she asked me to do something in that vein and then I literally kind of became obsessed with Looking it Bark and pieces of wood as a major elements of this of the designs or use as containers and it kind of developed that way and It get literally give me. New is and I I just love sharing it all. It's interesting that is really cool. Because she came really at the right time only being sort of so bombarded with just Correo beautiful flower look and it was so shaved and so you know it's sort of a manmade shape and here she brought nature back. It was so we needed. It was at the time I mean the timing was so good that's true. It wasn't even really a trend Fan. It was just kind of a tapping into this visceral need into nature in our lives. Yeah Yeah so thank you for coming. Yeah well I'm excited. That France was to be with us not not just to teach but also to be part of the the two days where we're going to all have different points of view and try to design on this rain so so it'll be interesting when we talk about wedding trends and wedding florals if your group will have more of a at advocate more for the the woodland look. I have no idea you're allowed to I mean I think this is the beauty of having some you know some notable people Bolla involved in this that has a voice already on there because people are listening you know the consumers out there listening to to hear and so that they can decide decide. What direction daylight to go and you know the fact that you have your workout their fronts? Who is in in so many people loving yet? You know that that that you have not only voice to influence all of those consumers and consumer base based on some of the things that you believe in but also I have a voice within our group to just sorta ponder and so that we can all decipher ourselves really in the end. That's the most important part of building. Trend is is that you want everybody to be a believer not just a follower right. Yeah and a practitioner. Yeah well I I wanted to ask Rebecca because you were. You sat through the twofold to full days in two thousand eighteen as as part of the leadership. Yes this is the one of the groups. I wanted to sit. Yeah so Howell. Howell tasted C- I came at the tail end so I didn't get to experience it? So how did it go for an exercise where people are hesitant to speak up reporter. How did you see it worked for engaging that ten days you know? There's always thinking in the gang at every table. There are the people who will have very strong opinions and their oppy to share. And then there's the shy wins and the beautiful thing why it was executed so nicely. Is that all the moderators had the skill of bringing that out excited to hear those who had something very strong to say and that small groups or you can say and what about you. What is your feeling on the matter? And we'd love to hear about the the growers idea their input. Not just that you know what is what is your in. So there's a moderator later. That helps make a situation where it's very safe and it feels really good and you have best friends with that. Maybe you never thought you'd have an opportunity to know and also what you something you said made me think that there's no wrong answer and it's eye opening and it's just like it's just all we're all in it together. It starts to connect the DOTS I. I just thought that was beautiful that that was the thing that gave me goosebumps. I and love sitting face to face with a grower and throughout the continuous Fanta. Somebody that works in the studio and somebody over here. That does a lot of weddings. I'm love that to be able to set with all these people to discuss Arkansas. Maybe that's why this is so good is because you recognize that there've been silos between these different areas of forestry and you're trying to say let's eliminate that and see if we can all at the same table because we often for not recognizing day challenges right you know we keep saying was designer. I wish this came this color. I I know that there's people out there saying I wish you came in classic blue the color of the year. Just make that happen and the growers are saying what takes at six or seven years to come up with a new variety. Eighty like we don't know these things to make these wishes until you're face to face with people that's been a producer for you and I think that's the best part is the now what the limitations nations are and let's just so how are we gonNa do it to be discussing such a way that we can solve that problem right at the table because talking with all the people that have parts and this this decision making the end and I just think the structure of fifty people is probably ideal. Because you can't have a thousand people coming together other at the you'd have to do something different like a survey only but just the dialogue is part of the exercise so we are hearing each other and and also hearing from celebrity designers Francois's and then we'll have Greco Lurch and Holly Chapel and soon McCleary join us and and I'm going to be the note taker. And you mentioned the Panton color your classic blue so give us a little snapshot of how that all our discussions GonNa work into yes. We're really really excited. Because the last time in two thousand eighteen we had literacy is men Depend on color. Guru actually does a beautiful presentation powerpoint on the on the Colored Trans and she last time she fitted into that Sunday symposium but this year just because of just logistics of everything because she's going to be presenting her color Palettes of interiors and houseware at the Hustler show in Chicago hauge on the weekend so she couldn't come on the weekend lucky for us because she's actually coming for the kickoff from the beginning of the of the conference and so oh she's going to be able to share with us the color pellets and and all her thinking on the colors at the beginning on the first day and she's just a wonderful I I'm as it's going to be very amazed. I think it's going to be amazing because we decided yesterday if literacy is GonNa present that night than which is the night of day one and while it call in to talk about what the structure. That's going to be a big party than the next morning. We will as a group continue the color conversation inspired fired by what we've just heard exactly do have fresh and that be right. You hear it seeing it and then we get to talk about it with knowing what we're looking at uh-huh Trans colored trends. I think it's amazing and I love what Rebecca said. It doesn't mean we have to have classic Blue Flowers. There's other parents Lawrence Street the right. It's about the whole concept our taking the whole picture together if you have been yet. That is a lot of components to make make up and it's about how you put components together with that color in mind. It was actually many ways. It is special time for the people that hard hardened business. True right suffered area. Yeah so it's really great Well I know that we are going to have this fun evening Colin. You've been doing all the planning. So how's what's structure going to be like of gathering everybody in for the first few days of this which would be haven't given you the dates. The Trend Summit Twenty Twenty Conference is marched twelve and thirteen Thursday Friday correct concilium like my mom said leaders could make it for the Sunday so we kinda turned that. Got Into a new opportunity to create kickoff event. Slash party Thursday that starts directly after day the first full day of conference at starts with a meet and greet where not just the people that were at the conference by people attending this particular event will get to me with Gregor senior zero. Holly France was yourself all presenters Will have some book signings. Some designed Demos It's being catered catered by a local food truck in Vancouver Very Popular Food Truck Call Taco phenol. Most people will know about that. So yeah and then that two hours followed by doing a short round table discussion thing showcase withdrew and that fall by reach local breweries. Because we are housed in the United Florida's coop. The Vancouver Flower Action. So that's where we'll be absolutely so the floor option is amazing. Facility has stadium style seating where they actually were. The option is so all their presentation days the Thursday a presentation night and also the Sunday symposium show all the house in that facility. It's just GonNa be the Thursday night's GonNa be a great event went For people that maybe are wanting to participate in the conference but warm to get a taste. Electron summit is all. Because you can buy I take it just for the evening yet and is it true. I believe that. All the design workshops with our celebrity designers. Also now oh my goodness we. We ruled out the registration for it. On April one August Soy August first story and then sold out like it was still the first week of contemporary all four workshops but we may made we have had a weightless sign up For the last couple of months so if people are still wanting to possibly at the day name on wait lists that is available on the website. we're also intentionally and probably going to the next several weeks open up some Gallery or audits lots where people can can observe the workshop and I actually get to do for a much reduced force in and they'll always be able to upgrade if if if opens so that's exciting why because of the Sunday symposium on March eighteenth all of our present and so there's a chance to still connect with the the the speakers instructors during that session. I wouldn't say so so not a bad word. It just shows the excitement yes absolutely. There's still plenty of light between the Thursday a Sunday and then the first today's conference there's still connections still available seats for people to attend the most exciting for me this year. Is I think we feel more connected than ever to the all the different parts of this industry I think we have much more increased interest from the farmer florist as the slow Slow Gore Movement The designers full on under that category. That's been so successful undoing. Such great things as well as you know that that traditional industry retail people all people that are working all towards the right direction. And we just WANNA be all in agreement and be hang up together and be the community that we should be because we all love flowers we all of the same thing are passionate is the same for some reason or other we get slotted in two different place different slots about really in fact we are all like we are alike and not such important place. Isn't it yeah. Provide that place for the community so we can get to know each other more and what together more. Well I think when we have those human connections specially with social media and everything we are detached so to have the community connection of a chance to sit at a table with Francois's or sit with Rebecca. Or you know sit with you told me we all have just just conversation about Passionate about I use it all of you. Were saying something when we were talking about the idea of the year. Twenty twenty and how that is some out. Bring us to the table with maybe some different intentions of we're at the change of a decade which take two earlier but I think somebody said clarity. Or like half Rebecca's Rebecca was talking about vision as important. Important eyesight is a something. You cherish streams more to you than than we could ever have known but it as Flora Professional. Aw a lot as well I think so. I think that a lot of people are connecting to twenty twenty concept because it is like a whole new you know jump start to a new century and people are excited about What's what's next? What's coming together and what I wanted to say earlier? Here is a trend summit. I don't think there's anything like it anywhere. Where you join people together and share your ideas ideas and your concepts of what's next and support one another to go out into the world end facility? Everybody's unequal the actual. I love everybody. He has a voice equal voice. We listen to everyone. I love that but you make room for the tape for for everyone at the table right to exact that he while this has been great. I know we have other things to do so before we close I wanted to ask everybody will not I y kind of wanted to get everybody's like what's the big thing that's happening for you in twenty twenty. I know for a Tony and Colin. It's not just summit. You've got lots on your plate. Is there anything else you WANNA mentioned that. That is cool and exciting. That people need to find and follow you up about. You're doing lots of other workshops. Yeah and I guess I'm really counting on this and because it comes earlier in the year with trend summit in March than it will also provide the lead Louis. It'll lead me in the right direction so I can teach properly with. Maybe explaining that CENA will floor might be because these are all issues that we should be very clear about clarity in twenty twenty is about defining where there were at and where we should go and to know that clearly enough so that we don't make the wrong statements saying that the wrong verbiage. So I'm really I. I'm focused on this. I mean that word focus is also part of twenty twenty. It's so true like every time they think about it like things just seems to line up and saw. Oh I'm looking to this to lead me Lee me in the way that it's GonNa make me a better teacher and saying all the right things that we all agree on so it's really hard for me to look ahead of this because again counting on all the goodness that comes out of this and all the voices that I hear and Doug we all I mean on Amana just loved. I WanNa start off twenty twenty feeling like I'm just like going to be so excited to find and a narrow it it down to what is really important today. I mean. This conversation lasts all day yesterday and this morning this has got me excited about the twenty twenty. I didn't really connect the dots the way some of you guys have until we had this time again. So it's cool. It's kind of continuous. Twenty twenty hours really good. It looks good too. Yeah so I can't I can't close without asking Francois Tells about her big news. We're talking in the middle of December and you're about to announce your twenty twenty Video series online courses. How do you describe there? Unlike online courses of a technical do they will be released a mid December. And I'm really looking forward to help spread the word botanical This is like your second edition of your video courses. Oh yes twenty. One thousand nine hundred was on woodland so for Twenty Twenty eight by the time people hear this in the middle of January all of that information will be posted about a Subscribing to the series of eight cores yet eight to to`real They will be sold as one unit and I think that maybe later in the year People will be able to buy individual and you'll also be teaching botanical couture at the workshops at trend summit right okay wearables where jewelry join okay. But she may have a little twist in the way in maybe us about that night. UH-HUH I wish you great success with a series of I'll make sure I include all that information if people haven't seen it on social media will make sure we get get them to to the trailers so people can get a preview of what what's going on in luck with that and Miss Rebecca you've got something cooking and we're going to put you on the spot and ask view of what Rebecca. Raymond Floral is doing twenty. I really excited to sort of fell into this opportunity fortuity to put together a floral art adventure. It's springtime in Paris and we are going to go to see the amazing Martine Sue. CBS and at the Pierre School of Florists. And we're putting together a four day. Package of floral design. Amazing input look from her and behind the scenes. Getting to go to the growers getting to go to the market and probably some other little surprises. It might even be a five day deal If we're GONNA do that and you're gonna go to Paris amid adventure WanNa add to it. Things are going on in my head and it is coming up quickly. But it's going to be the first part of mate okay and I am just super excited. There's a limited amount of people who can go but I think that it's going to be an amazing incredible notable experience amazing anyway so I will attest to that. Martine is. She's incredible yes so by the time people here this we'll we'll send them to your website to get more details. Her four falling one very very wonderful. I'm excited for you to my Colin. What what do you you want to wrap up with anything wall? I guess mom may say that. She's only focused. This trend summit our partnership. It's my job. Show look further back. What's next so all I can say right? Now is a lot and signed as far as workshops Some more events coming up in the next year we're also working on her online Content content She's going to be launching a online class at her first module of online classes next summer. So we're in the process of working on that right now as well so For All that and more just keep updated with her social media and her website. They told me Gilliam. Name DOT COM hurting concisely. Thank you very much for this conversation. I expected hit. But I don't go anywhere without my reporter and so I appreciate you letting me put you on the spot and to listeners. Trend Summit is coming coming up in a couple of months and I will have all the details on who you can plug it a how you can get tickets how you can attend and what you can learn. And they met between now and when this airs a lot more news. This will come out. And we'll have more to share. But I'm very excited to be part of it. Thanks Clarity in twenty twenty is knowing where we are at and where we want to go that quote comes from. Hitomi told me and I'm sure you picked up on it too. I really liked that quote Hitomi. Francois's and Rebecca have all been past guests of the slow flowers podcast. 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81: Landon Cider! (Part 1)

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81: Landon Cider! (Part 1)

"Hey everyone coming to you at long last from my dear sweet home of Los Angeles and before we get into my chat with Lindon CIDER. I WANNA thank each and every one of you for the love and support that you extended to me during my recent illness. You really really boosted my spirits and That helped to make things not as scary as they would have been otherwise and essentially back to normal healthwise. I have to take a little extra care with my stomach for a few more months. But you know what in light of what's going on in the world. It hardly matters. I just wanted to mention all of this so I could say once again. Thank you all so so much and as I said I'm in my apartment and I ain't leaving anytime soon. I hope that's the same for you. Now anyone who has to leave your place because of work obligations or family obligations etc. I'm wishing you all of the protection and care available and send my love anyone else. Please join me. 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The shape shifting up Hitomi of glam drudgery. That's right I'm speaking of the one. The only the the fabulous the pride of Long Beach the reigning champion of regular and my guest today learn side Welcome thank you so much. I honestly the only reason why decided to come on the shows because of clean. Wait to hear my again. I thought we had the show done earlier. Now we got some. Did you drive them beach today did did you grow up in Long Beach? No I'm Elliot all my life but I moved to Long Beach when I was around. Twenty three twenty four months ago. What brought you. Long Beach A looney possibility On my oil one bedroom apartment after my mom died and Of this year and I just kind of was lonely. Some friends say hey. We're going to buy a house but we can't really afford it to do it our own so we need a roommate. Do you want to be really and lobbied so gay so let it already? So it was easy answer. I just spent my first time in Long Beach recently for the Tammie Brown Twenty th anniversary Eli Lapp. Oh I'm sure it sounded like it was great your stomping ground hamburger. Mary's yeah and I couldn't believe how amazing that hamburger. Mary's yeah obviously the wheel ones great but that one is unbelievable is stadium yes it is. Yeah you could drive a car through their totally. I'm sure someone has at least on car. Something something hopefully maybe one day. It'll be part of someone's number. I have a lot of rules that hamburger. Mary's comes you can perform. So what are some of the rules? Well they have a certain licensing like the licenses you can't do. You can't show certain body parts you can't even give new illusion of body parts you count have flame or powder glitter like all that shit that I break. Anyway I'm run up against via I've encouraged on our list when I bring them in and I know they do. Some risque looks are against the rules. I want you to pretend like you know you didn't hear them. It was allowed young man for God. So when did you start performing at Hamburger? Mary's homebuyers my very first performance. Was that hamburger. Mary's was wow. And what age were you when that happened? Twenty-nine pleads somewhere in their two thousand nine. Sure describe for me what that looked like. What was the song? And what was the VIBE? It was a hot mess. It looked like look like a lesbian in her brother's close And as a overachiever IDA to numbers and even being more of overachiever I did two mixes. So I very very amateurish style. The couple mixes in the first one was my debut. Number was a mass feminine presenting Human Body and a bunch of songs. I don't remember because I smoke. A lot of marijuana went from like I think I had like the gossip in there. Oh sure yeah and then I remember. I really liked the gossip so I pump performed to them and it went through evolution of this character of like on the story line because you know mean stories. went from feminine presenting into kind of having like a a evolution of finding himself and unchanged onstage from address into my brothers closed. Everyone have a brother which is really round the level that you heard and and then it went into free bird. I remember ending on Free Bird and I ripped off the mask and I just celebrated my freedom and my boobs came on taped bouncing around and I was holding my tits celebrating and then my other one was like a Sexy I'm a much charm. The pants off you kind of character in which I still. Yes sure now. What would be the number done with that? What would be the song like to push them out right with did they didn't come into my repertoire for awhile. Oak taught remember that one either. I'm not very good at this already. I mean look I mean just. You weren't supposed to get this. That's cool that's cool. I'm going to try to find even more obscure things like such the opposite. You're like he hasn't every detail and who wrote it Loo- pollution crew and I'm just like I have no idea bring that up because I'm always fascinated with this. Everyone has a different style of memory. And you're obviously much more of a visual memory person and I know that this classifications and I'm not getting that right. I know that there's another perfect But there's I think that there's a bunch of different styles of learning or memory or whatever when looking at the incredible art that you do. Yo- you're welcome this special effects makeup as you describe it which I think is wonderful description and I want to get into that further in a minute but looking at the level of detail and the emotion that I see even in the shading That is something that would be far outside my grasp and that speaks to a level of retention of detail and reference in a visual medium. That would completely outstripped okay. And so that's what I love is that I feel like we all have these different I guess like Little Tron cars of memory on different tracks. I love that. Oh Good I love that especially the eighties reference glow. In the dark very topical. I knew the eighties decade reference eighties. I am not so much in detail like we talked about but I was born in eighty so I have my early. Childhood is based in fluorescent colors. And you know cheesy pop music. Sure And then I got older. I realized that there was a whole alternative side of the eighties. That'll say oh I like this one. So he's crazy. There's all that stuff the fluorescent neon and then there's a depeche mode all this other stuff going on at the same time. I mean there must be similar things in in every decade but for some reason in the eighties or so much stuff. Mtv Pub. I think it. Yeah that totally because like Duran Duran. wasn't really selling a lot in. America. Mtv people freaked out like suddenly flipped over. Duran Duran wouldn't happen before makeup like that. Glam rock crashed and burned here before. But anyway people not ready but Glam Dragani. I love that phrase and I've only came up with that right. That's come up with it. I did embrace it It was something that I heard As the kind of evolution of kings was watching on social media to evolve into more colorful match ups and things and I've only playing with it by know what to call it and A few kings I saw started to use that word. Like oh I like that word sir. Do definitely didn't come up with it but I I define myself almost by it now Sure now when did you start playing around with makeup and the identities? The identities came from growing up in acting and performing But the makeup came in highschool started playing with special effects. Stuff in right. Outta high school. I was always purchasing the like throughout the year of the Halloween Club if another store here in southern California and they have a few locations and they're open all year long and they have intense. Everything warehouse is. This is before you could really just Amazon prime share. Some of you have actually going after or pay like thousand dollars. Vhs House you apply completely out of my My range financially. Outrageously saying it doesn't make any sense because also one hundred dollars. Nine hundred. Eighty eight is like how much now? Yeah I know to me like fifteen thousand And so I will go on. I buy the little special effects and the one that I always reference when I tell the story is like a screwdriver going in and out of your face so you have the end of it and then you have the other side and you would just kinda apply both sides to make it look visually like it was through your face but that one. I bought a lot of us. Remember and you look at the back and it says required items and then it says suggested items so by all of Ireland's hat on the back and I would figure out by process of limitation and fucking up my face hands trying to figure out what these things dead and taught myself that way when it came to the special effects stuff and I thought about going to school I thought about going to Cinema and like different Special effects type of schooling but again just can't afford it and it really was out of my range in what I thought I could do and so I just kind of kept playing with it on my own. I've had some great mentors the last couple of years that have seen my potential kind of brought me in and helped me out with some stuff found. Oh that's cool. You can do that way of course youtube now. It's incredible anything university youtube. It's the democratization of knowledge dissemination. It's really wild and also with the technology to being able to podcast or if it's people do web series right whatever you can take a passion and just converted vice something which you couldn't do as easily twenty years ago or even ten years ago really is not exactly. Yeah when you said you mentioned your economic situation would what was it sort of generally always low-income ma. I was in a only child in a single parent household and my mom who already had a multiple disabilities. She was born Legally blind. She's partially. She had heart problems and feet problems and kind of always struggled on but she was probably enough to make sure that she was doing things on our own without trying to ask for too much help Outside from government financial assistance suction AIDS We did get government aided things but she still worked under the table cleaning houses and Ironing shirts and doing all these things just to try to give me anything. She taught me how to read before I was in kindergarten. She liked me to try to give me all the advantages that she didn't have she was always encouraging me and taking me on like a two hour bus ride to the the center of La. So I can go take this class because she saw. Oh you can you can draw. Let's go see if we can Encourage this or all these amazing things that she was always trying to just give me and that was. Her work ethic is just to do that. So but it was always low income In general and living next to our grandparents and having them drive us around if you couldn't take the bus somewhere and it does limit your at least imagined possibilities right because I know that feeling when you feel. Oh I can't do that can't go to go to college. Oh well my grades are great and my. I don't know if that's going to work with my family's income and all that stuff it's great that you know you found a way through into the thing she likes and also it's such an amazing story to hear of Your Mom Dad so much of a burden on herself and to still push through. I can only imagine a devastated. You were when she passed. I was but at the same time I was trying to figure out my own sexuality was coming out of the closet when she was dying and I was like a couple of things on there was like a real like lifetime off and I was her caregiver but I was really putting up a lot of walls and I didn't know how to deal with what I was going through so I just put up all shit. Todd of thick asks walls and walls look like. Oh they were brick. Soundproof disagreed with with a carton layers. Everything bounced out They were really really thick and really emotionally blocking everything so nothing was really breaking through and so I didn't understand my loss of her until after it was all done. And then I'll just kinda came flooded flooding in and I Keppel's walls up even further and push myself away from all my friends all my family and pretty much hid in my one bedroom apartment that I've found in a hurry. Having to move out of our house in the we shall together And focused on work and work at the time. I was working at a flower shop and a restaurant serving. Marie calendar's yeah and so I was just working all day Working the morning shift going home taking a nap falling asleep to drop dead gorgeous on on on we should repeat repeat s and then getting up getting ready to the clubs trying to pick up on girls that was never successful and then coming home and then we be every day though already right never even one more in our most emotionally broken offers. You can look back and see these weird patterns or you're like I kept doing that that yeah so you were still struggling to come out at the time when you were going to the clubs where you have the time off No I was struggling to come out when she was dying. Okay and I'll tell you. Oh God she said one more and then that's right. Yasha walking by by the end I pretty much knew it was a lesbian and I had my family already figured it out to you and I really we're forced coming out moment at the hospital at the hospital and I know in as as an adult that has gone through many many phases. I recognize that the intentions were probably much better than how I interpreted them them But at the moment I was even like what's so my my mom had surgery. What the final surgery and they opened up in this culture backup because it was everywhere. The cancer everywhere. There's nothing else they could do. So you just called her back up. And then they told us you just put make her comfortable and And I my head down after receiving that information in my my Nina my godmother Came up to me and she expected needs as my head and be a mess and I was just normal. I was you know my walls are up. Sure Yeah Shock. All all the emotions that are recognized in the moment I thought it was a spoiled Brat and also what age again Tony One. That's I mean that's a lot age but especially twenty one. Yeah you know. Yeah but I still recognize. I look back. I can't argue with you. And so she took me outside the little garden Zen area that they had the hospital and she just asked me. If I had anyone I can talk to and I said Yeah. And then she added. It was a woman I said the eye and the she's an are you having lesbian tendencies. Turn look through her. I thought your I'm not sure it's always the first thing I pretended like I was buying from it for two seconds. I never even had like a real experience at the man so my I thought it was by because for some reason we all think that we're supposed to be refractory issued as you. And she just kind of we went on and then that word got out to all of the immediate people in our lives including My Mom's best friends and Who's also a landlord and I was also helping them on the side for extra money by helping them Organizing collective rent so kind of working office sometimes to and They encouraged me not to come out to her. Because many reasons and I didn't and I and I still am okay with that because she already knew that I was putting up all these walls and then I was alone because of all these walls and so she knew that I was going to be going through this experience of walking my life alone. Sure and She was very saddened by that and very concerned by that so I didn't. We all agree that I wouldn't tell her about it because it would be one more added stress. Sure that she need sure. Why your decision and it's my decision but I'm still completely you know. Some people regret not telling their parents sure. He's important things but I don't. I embrace that decision and know that recognized. Now she knows and she always has known and she loves me no matter what and Powered me so whatever form she has now or whatever like space energy she takes up or or light or whatever she's evolved into whatever our spirit has now she. I know she's my biggest fan in the loudest audience member or that energy that I feel after his show that polls show adrenaline rush. I always wreck. I feel like it's her somehow coming through going. Hey Yeah probably view. We mentioned in the Hallway Endless Hallway to the studio man. There's this endless hallway. I was like the shining. I should probably video a couple of times and I'm like no just through one more just one more after that. I promise no no and also did the floors so my shoes are like incredibly loud birdie were allowed but now she's just like clack clack clack. I took reporting all throw it in just for the listeners can know whether it sounds like in the hallway we were talking about. How energy is a big thing for both of us and especially as exemplified you just said and you mentioned it a few times on Dragila. Do you know when you started thinking about things in terms of energy and in a sort of spiritual because sometimes people think of things in religious way. I prefer to think things some curious about when you start to think about. It's things like that While I was born in ways a Catholic but we didn't really practice much and then I decided to be closer with my circle of friends and they have a question about all this. We're part of like the cardinals for Christ's Club at school. Total Geek drama. I was just like way out there. Would you band clarinet? Oh cool yea so. That was fun. Do you still play at all. No it was a rental from the school so I just gave it back on my last date. I never touch my life would be completely consuming and then I remember accidentally selecting very early age. Some like second or third grade did is list of instruments that you could pick and a record because I thought it actually meant tape recorder 'cause I was always but then when they showed me what it was I was like I don't want that but anyway so you were in band and urine cardinals for Christ's hot then when my M- when my my mom's passing away our landlords spoke of their Mormon and they were always Offer if we ever wanted to like hang out or have the The emergent rainforest scriptures. Or what is it called the mormonism. Oh you know the thing I was just trying to think of another missionaries over religious. Be Happy to and there. Were always respectful that we want and then I was searching for something I was gay my mom sick. What's going on and then it's kind of a struggle to just get through the day and then so I thought. Oh that's what I needed to be right. That's that's it was just perfect timing and my imagination thought that that was the right thing for me so I was Mormon for a minute and then Everything my whole life kind of switch when she passed away and I was coming out and I was searching for how to deal with myself and bites before I got diagnosed with my own oral cancer which was in two thousand nine probably around two thousand six or seven ish I read the alchemists and I blew my mind that the the suggestion of a human being able to the power of mind and and spiritual control can alter shifts matter and it seemed like a fantasy and non fiction but at the same time it was presented in such a real way that. I thought there's something here and then when I got sick I picked up. You can heal your life oak by Louis. Louis Hey I believe is your name. And it's a book about manifesting. Your own health and figuring out spiritually where your health issues are coming from of academic health like this if you have problems with your eyesight or something that probably has to do with this mentality memory of visual struggling that triggering that in your house if you work on the of that then you can change altered or health and she healed herself from cancer. Who was her own amazing willpower? And people think it's bullshit or people of course you can have. A lot of people will do that. But I chose to believe it and I chose to Go down a winding beautifully wedding. Metaphysical type of research and figuring out how that is and reading lots of different versions of lots of different things. I decided to believe my own. What made sense to me. And it's just I have energy. I want to give it to those that I want to give it to. I'M NOT GONNA waste it on people who don't and Were connected to every single thing on this planet to each other to the animals to inanimate objects all collected somehow and different strengths. Different waves Keep a stronger bond. And that's just general how I believe things now and I don't know what is that called. I don't know but I know that's all I believe I would call spiritual and I do believe in spirits. I believe I believe those can exist that you know all these different things counts because why not right unless you can disprove it. There's no way you can't say no. Yeah a lot of people can say things like. I don't want to give people my energy if they don't deserve it but you can actually do that. Yeah and you can see that in Dracula. You're the only person that never really had a conflict with anyone and a couple of times you know that you can see. Maybe you're have sort of look on your face like yeah. I wish this wasn't going on right now. However I am not part of it I will not get involved in that sort of thing. And that's how I lived my life for a long time now since balled into this place because I used to give negative negatively to a lot and I used to find a fondness in in a comfort and and making people feel dumb or putting people in their places and and being like a mean spirited person I used to Find Humor in that and just kind of give into all that and then pursue it and I didn't like being that person. That's the first thing that comes to my head like all the dramas going on under the first thing that come to mind off wash over your face. I better than them. I mean I want but You know like I just people deal with everything their own way and sometimes it comes off as immaturity. Sometimes it just comes off on. That's how you deal with things and none of that interested me. I didn't come to the show to be a part of that and I know reality. Tv's is hugely part of her. I wasn't going to give into it. And if someone really set something up push me in my in my corner. I I have all the ability to be able to for myself and fight back and bite back but I choose not to have a feeling to that because of the way that you live your life energy that you output no one was gonna come often receive it anymore and I always have this Even when we were prepping for everything. That's come out in episodes to start airing in my memories of this happened with that happened. Oh Mao were they gonna think what does audience going to think? This GonNa tear me apart for that. I was prepare myself to receive some of that and then have it happen at once. So yeah it was really really nice because I was stressed out for no reason but we can do to ourselves right like cells into these in San Paranoid tunnels. And it's weird too because you you feel like you can't talk to someone about it because you're going to sell nuts and then further make yourself. Nuttier can't sleep contract that we couldn't talk. That's the Delaware an even better. What age do you think that finally clicked him? What so you read the Alchemy Book. And then you go through that whole journey of reading and learning and do you remember time where you just sorta felt it applying no. I don't remember a moment because I still come. I fight with positive thinking a lot when I was sick. I was going through it very easy. Actually so I guess when I was sick I was living in that space and I was refusing to give into anything and I would have moments of fear and sadness and that will come overwhelm me. She usually towards the end of my treatment. I was in excruciating. Pain could no longer talk. the pain was so much work barely even drink. Like half of an insurer which is my entire like to Nutrient base even through those moments. All I could do was okay. Well let me white-marbelled Dr Nassar more questions and think of how can I take this moment? And I even had I anticipated myself lying down a lot. So before I got sick I research a bunch of Positive mantras and things. That would be good for me to remember about the mouth on pieces of paper and made them colorful and in my detail or place all right tack them to my ceiling above my mom my dad and I would just lie there and look at these things all day long and try to just ingrain that and so. I think that I think that really worked. And I committed myself to my space at the time of course in space was public about my journey and I told them that every day I was going to put out a positive um fought and so I did and I would find something either research or whatever because we need the moment like Oh. That's that's exciting right now. Let me put that up and so I would go online and put my little positive thinking moment and I think comically speaking. I'm still receiving a lot of that. no also that's a really great lesson to for anyone that might be struggling with something. Apply a daily practice. Yeah and Intentioned Yeah Right. Yeah and also a mood. Board doesn't hurt Again visually stimulating right and also the daily fight against the negativity. Because it would be very easy at that point in your life now having gone through what you've gone through getting sick yourself. Some people will just collapse so remarkable and I feel like I was just taught all these things from my mom spirit and I appreciate when people compliment or congratulate me on getting done the way I did it was. It never seemed hard. It wasn't difficult so I it's weird for me to accept that praise or shroud relations. 'cause I'm Mike. Wallace whose easy almost in other people it's not and so they deserve the praise so I just made the decision continue to do it and that was when I was the most Zen kind of always positive always playing it by that and then I get jaded and now I'm fine and I'm just like young people in the traffic. You find you get jaded thing. It comes in waves does and I try to practice but not the way I used to. I used to be very committed and now I'm just I think I found like a balance right. I don't need to practice it as much did that. There are moments were okay. I'm I need to. I needed to do some soul-searching again. I gotta get out into it and it's okay to have the pendulum swing back and forth. Because at the time you really had to be hyper vigilant. It was like the only way to do lying around doing nothing so might as well do something right occupy your mind occupy its humus. Well I was shows in particular time. No I don't remember. I washed all my these gorgeous again was and then your favorite movie. It's one of I would say that one I could. I could definitely I was relating to my life a lot stupid I love. I love soup beds so much. We'll also there is some actually some deep things going on. There's a lot. There's there's intense aspiration and and Fighting against the structures that the R S and everything the Kirstie alley character representing all the monsters and like ridiculous kind of political commentary on like America and over and over again every year. It has to be some of America and also this the casual misogyny of her husband all that stuff holiday does so much. And that's what I love about stupid because I love even for myself. I explained that I take my stupidity series. Anything that takes seriously. I'm all about Orlov. I love it so much. Intelligence and stupidity best totally dumb stupidity however an elevated level. I think a couple of other favorite movies are yours. Oh drop dead gorgeous Cancer too. I think okay Another was another one that I truly think of the and take your time too because this question is always awful because it puts you on the spot. I've been asked this question. I blank out totally half favorites. That's why I have the posters on the wall so I go to live in HEDWIG references here but yeah. It's very hard for me to feel anything. Sure anything except for Avocados. Those are not. You're jammed right you know that. Yeah Hashtag Avocado Channel Deep Dive. I love to find a special gas so I mean I guess horror of for probably be of Lima now street and I just saw two for the first time in thirty years at the new beverly. Recently it was just wild to seek exactly when it came out on tape. Yeah I didn't really like it as kid love three. I love the first one. The first one was my favorite and then The the one where seen against subtitles. Grab it. I love it. I love it. I love the gay one but I love the the gene remortgaged novels when I was like. Oh Stupidity I love it and it was like fantastic much more fantastical and much more darker. Goff first off world and the machination is what I love about. The whole series is up. You're you're going to be surprised by it because it's the imagination of minors. Nightmares can take any shape or form xactly format and it can be dumb can be crazy glose and intense and Gorriak. I love the dynamics of all of those things. One movie so in every movie has all different all different things every direction and it's fine because that's the sort of premise that those are the rules that they set up. Yeah Yeah and I think that's probably the whole series is why la but but those two are my favorites of the series. And I like Gremlins. Oh gremlins is great. Yeah I think. It's showing a as a matinee sometime soon as new beverly. It'd be fun and peaches crisis. Doing a split families saw that on Michael's page and I was obsessed. I looked and then I went back in the car. I love this concept. I love all the performance. I'm I wish I could see. I want to go up there. Just Shit I'm GonNa go go cherry jealous of you. Yeah it'll come to la. Hopefully I can see it. Because that's dot so coming to an existence sequel grandma the new batch. I like the first one better. Yeah that that's to me is a classic. Yeah some of the themes are just so funny. Stripe was my favorite. But other than that. I don't know I can't give you probably don't WanNa drift around on the show so yeah so When you were performing Hamburger Mary's you had the first performances that you you tell me about. How much planning and preparation went into that first. One I was practicing my makeup multiple times a week. Wow for a few months and was I don't half ass things really and sure. Oh by the way. If if you vape we'd feel free to Vape we'd because I forget to mention it numbs constantly pockets. All I'll take it out with a minute cool and also seeing multiple things I would do have my face and one way and then we'll do the other half in another way to try to like take full advantage of that make a practice was applying facial hair. Lots trying to figure out what was the best way because at the time I didn't really have dragging seemed to go out and watch I was looking online and everything online was male illusion drag so you want it to pass a man and that was that was what the epitome of Drag Kings Werman. We've just old school style may may allusion male impersonation over and so I thought. Oh that's what I have to do to who've you a few examples of I guess the preeminent male impersonators that you would have been looking at as a reference gauge Scotland is a Like one of the original. He led to the open shirt And number. Yes he. He welcomed the into the studio with a half buttoned shirt off. He's comfortable that Janklow photo. You know it's cool. I looked amazing right. Now you're just stunning. Absolutely I mean mind. Yeah exactly exactly said you see that because we're going to put on a whole different outfit for the photos. Gagging over allegations that photo. I forgot what I was saying. Oh No not least impersonator. And then historically I was Looking at stormy delivery which is conic Allusion EST From the stonewall riots and before that Hetty King so they were always passable and and to further Distract US yeah. I remember reading an article that you wrote for the advocate. I did about about stone. You mentioned stall in it and you talk about the historical moment that gets over. I just brushed aside the time. Get into that well. It we're always giving credit to the trans- The transport caller that revolved. And it's very rarely heard of that storm. Delivery was the emceeing Malaysian of the jewel box review. Which was though home? Cast the show. That was there all the time. He was the live singing. Mc and he during the whole momentum right in that moment a policeman pushed him down calm a book called him a Faggot and he got up and he punched the COP. And that's when people saw get crazy so it wasn't just a trans Queens Colour. It was also eight trans. He wasn't trout so he he was still a lesbian. I believe Passed away so exemplifying as lesbian as far as I remember he was a color personnel color. And it's such a huge moment that and I say and it kind of sounds a little striking to some people when I say it but the history that we know were written by men and men right women out of it And it's it's unfortunate. Because since the beginning of time when have been providers and has evolved artists in these an amazing talented and beings and architects in in sculptors. And everything that we've always known meant to do and that we only read about men women doing are just as talented and skilled. But you never hear about them. But Vermont but so now we're finally have social media and things to bring these sinks alight and everyone's like. Oh well I wanted to do this like no about all right looking at. That's the first time I knew about that. Specific ASPECT OF STONEWALLS. Reading your article. Yeah Yeah and if you want to research so my delivery and some wall you'll see it's been talked about sure but it's just not ever brought up often enough to people have in the mainstream though about it even in our in our own subcultures about it. Yeah misogyny crazy all of a sudden. So can we love it? So so you were looking to these pioneers and starting to form your idea of what she wanted to do And so I was still planning on performing comedy and all these crazy things too but I thought I had so look like a man. Sure where if I was sitting at the bar. They thought I was a man until I open my mouth and spoke and That was my so I was just practicing all the different ways that I can look as much like a mad as possible. And then I performance by tits popped out from that took me a long time prep- preparing and I didn't know about mixing music so I was teaching myself that too and I was making. Lebron mixes that very elaborate seems to be something familiar with now. I know and I have a huge love and admiration for simplistic some of the most simplistic things that you'll get contagious. As long as an elaborate things. I wish that I could be more simple. Sometimes with the things that I paint is because I have a fondness simplistic looks. I just can't like I have to add details go. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah it's certain things that you know. You're like oh. I would love to do something like that but like your inner nature just goes well over here. You know what you need. The teeth in that flashlight. You know you could buy one of my favorite things on your finale not now. You're finale. Look but you're finale presentation I that blew my mind but China Dantata Ashley by Monster Cox. Oh my friend works for My My bromance. One of my best friend's name is Ivory Alex tracking as well and his wife is Caitlin and Caitlyn works for Real Doll Company. Which makes us is Sure cells and their one of their Sold subcommittee companies is called Monster Cox. And they were very kind enough to Let me borrow all those sex toys and that that sex doll ten thousand dollar sex stall back. They didn't make me sign a contract to take care of early to take on set with me and I couldn't even tell them what it was four. That's really cool. Show that's GonNa be like blow up the world and the concept of drag is. That's only been doing that for a couple of years. I can't even tell them. Go Away for like a couple of months. I'm going back to your bullshit line that you would tell people about. I'm going to visit someone or like. What was the thing you could say? I didn't tell anyone anything. And then I came back because people follow me on social media so much and they like. It's so hard to lie about. That should these days and I even told people to taking her grandma to Europe or something right because everyone detects everything it's true and then there's the line of like who do you tell. How do you not tell what's the cutoff line right? You know what I mean. So but she shouldn't know but still technically she didn't know but aside from that it was all If you ve can read between the lines then that's on you but Most people I didn't even give lines to read through. It was more like my bosses like the the cast their. I were apart of like I'm going on some drag and that's always the term that we use when girls are going on Rupaul. Oh sure I'm going on android kitchen and I'm going to need some time off And hopefully I'll have some spots open on comeback or I'm leaving. We're going on vacation so I need as many gigs right now. Right Right Yeah and so before you went. What would your workweek look like before? It was a Tuesday and was Hollywood a Wednesday in either San Diego or long beach a Thursday in long beach a Friday in Long Beach where was Hollywood To brunch shows on a Saturday may be Jenner. Show on a Saturday. And maybe like ten o'clock midnight show on Saturday so I would have like four shows and then Sunday it will be a double brunch on a Sunday. And then maybe like dinner show very full week Harley inaugural hey. Dj Fatty. And I've been listening to it for a while now. I don't take it away but you gay 'cause I always like to know if somebody's gay or not 'cause I kind of type with you know he's mentioned your wife. When did you meet your wife two weeks before I was diagnosed so it was very again a lot going on going on? Yeah for that There's always seems to be like. Hey here's this situation but let's all put a lot of shade at the same time. Actually Trixie in that recent episode. We talk about this thing when you realise sort of being an adult that there are a lot of great things and bad things happening concurrently. It's weird thing when you can just sort of see them fanned out like that and you're like okay cool. I this bad thing doesn't mean that everything's rotten and this great thing doesn't mean that everything solved right it just in and you've we're dealing with a lot of that the intensely at the time. Yes yes So I met her on my birthday on which is in June June fourteenth of two thousand nine. I we on my space grave. Yeah and it was that day that morning or something we were chatting and she's like what are you doing tonight? Makamba out tonight home on my birthday at midnight if you want to come over and like him you hug like flirty really come up but let's be friends like we're not trying to meet under like a date you know whatever. We exchanged phone numbers. We text each other within a couple of hours so it was very much quick quick quick and then she came overnight and We watched probably watch gorgeous. No sound of the lambs. Wow what a movie is a great one. Did you ever see manhunter? The first appearance of Hannibal. Lecter is in film. Is this Michael Man? Movie called manhunter which I think the stories of the book is called Red Dragon and later remade it as Red Dragon. Yes we made it as original now knowing that you're welcome to the land and then the next day I My adding to the story. My car had recently caught on fire. Wow how did it catch on fire because I had another layer? I was on healing from knee surgery. I was playing Roller Derby. I'm not much of a lesbian and I tore my acl and I had Knee surgery for it. And I was healing from that when I met my wife and then got diagnosed so it often work for a while and my car was a sixty-nine Volkswagen beetle and it needed to get turned over regularly. And I hadn't hadn't done it in a while lazy and I couldn't use both my legs because it was a manual and I just didn't do it and so I I finally was Healed enough to drive so I went to go. I took it to go all change. And as he was on the way to the oil change com fire off like now. How do you start realizing it's far? Do you see flames or did you start smelling something? it was. It was flames. That was me Erica's. It was behind engines to look and Yup they were and I pulled over and I screamed for help. I was in a residential area and a lady right next to the car was watering her backyard. And she's really the hose and I attempted to put out it didn't work and then the Yeah the the fire came and put it out and charge me like three thousand dollars to clean up the mess software and then he was so cool. It was like if you leave now. I think I think we can get the tow truck comes by now. I think we can get it out of here and I cannot get. I don't have to have your vehicle information on this form. We will have to charge you for it. And they found out any somehow. I know I forgot but cool. Yeah but yeah I got charged for it anyway. So the next day I went to my roommate. Sounds like I met this girl. I would think she's really really fucking cool and WANNA go and hang out with her account bar your car. And I've never borrow this horrible for and Kinda and I sat her down when I got my diagnosis and I told her what it was and what was happening and how much we didn't know what was going to happen And I had watched my Mombassa Wasilla. I know what the what could happen. Sure and I gave her out and I said we just met. I don't expect you to take on this month's possibility I will completely understand and one hundred percent guarantee you that we can pick this up again where we left off and I will hold no hard feelings because I know what this can look like and if you're not ready to go there with me I don't want to see you watch me go through that you know and like on newstalk. Wow my couch. Swallows thanks good Here at the phone light on. How many vape dropped. I've I'm through my vape went real far. Maybe the catch won't give it back. Go my God it might. What is my aided up? What you don't want to happen unless you well bombings. Sometimes you want the ask seated up you know what I mean. I want that to happen. So we'll get into that to talking about asu sexual stuff. I mean you know you did mention and Dracula when you had the reoccurrence of the Oral cancer they. You know we've been real bad for Leisure activities tongue cancer is a bitch for lesbians so but yeah so then I keep the end. She looked at me and was borderline. It's not crossed the line to being offended that I gave that out. Sure and she said no of course not. I'm here I'm here by you. She knew that she loved me when she met me is how she tells the story to believe it because why not why. Would you wanNA prove something science please? I had already gone through a few procedures or they weren't sure what my cancer was. So I was being treated for for thinking was for bees and the and then they. I kept going back in getting more painful in my clinic. My neck feels like this is like a lot this for all my research. I'm doing about. Herpes convinces so finally They took me. They suggest in other specialists and then he did a biopsy and then they didn't want to believe that I was It was cancelled because I didn't have young cancer. I never smoked and I wasn't a heavy drinker outside of like a year that I was going to the clubs. Sure so it wasn't. It didn't make sense for them. So keep sending it back to get tested and it was during all those re-testing that I met my wife so I always already saw him to boil up these walls so I was Trying to convince myself that I wasn't falling in love with her but I was so yes. Oh she refused to give up on me or leave my side and she was but Dr Van Eyes Salaam beach almost every day after work. Just to come hang out with me and then when I got really sick I would Meet HER DOT com a couple of days just to take a break. Stay at home and be with our cats do something different than just like be miserable. And then so she came after a couple days and night. She said that I look. I had like lost twenty pounds in those few days and then after that she stopped taking breaks. My son I was on. It is really sweet. Though that the two of you were trying to basically take care of each other whatever way like just. Don't you stay home? I want you here but please eight hours days. Yeah it is an amazing thing. Sometimes you do feel something with someone you just met. I'm sure at the time you said like you didn't want to believe that that was happening right. But there must have been something that was like the vacuum. I'm like ooh there's something here that's why I went to my roommate's on that second day. I'm oh I like her. I really WANNA buy your car. And a couple of days later was telling other friends about her like the schools really special. But I still hadn't like given any hints of that to her that we're still playing it friendly and just casual and it took us a couple of weeks a kiss and then that was before the whole thing now. Wow what were you like in dating before that? Would you be quick on the draw? Yeah Okay Yeah I have three girlfriends. And they all cheated on me In different ways and like some are actual like sleeping with someone else around relationship or other ways where it was like online and another one was like a physical like chess or something so I had a moment of different levels of cheating good experience this fun spectrum but I never went into the next relationship assuming a key with with cards up. I still went out person other people don't she? I don't eat so I'm GonNa meet this person. That's what she do. Positive approach also. What do you think is worse from all those the emotional cheating or the physical cheating Well the emotional one was my first girlfriend so that one was like way more girlfriend. Yeah especially now with the longest relationship. I think we were together for about four months. This long ensured his relatives a month. But still you know contracted deception situation where I was the one being deceived. And Yeah you kinda later. You're just like you know you could've just said like hey like Let's call this day or like the long Bizarro. Like icy strange. Like lots of weird like okay. Sleep thinking about that again kind of thing so then when you meet what you're West End Gabby so when you meet. Gabby you feel differently than you felt before. And that's very sweet the way you just said that. Tv So then then you dealing with the the cancer. And what was the official diagnosis that gave us oral cancer or Guam Cell Carcinoma? It's the inner lining of the mouth and throat into the top of this like a stomach. It's so anything within. That layer is called squamous cell and my presented itself on. The back of my tongue has like a sore. Oh okay just got bigger and bigger. What's the thing you would recommend if people should look out for in in that situation with a sore in their mouth or anything like that? Is there any warning sign? That people should look out for Well I mean it's from from me and my personal experience. It was a painful canker sore that kept getting bigger and it felt like it was attacking Attaching itself the deeper things that were affecting into my lack in my head and so I but the biggest recommendation give anyone facing anything that there is a mystery or they're unsure of or even if there is a clear cut answer is do a lot of your own research just constantly be looking things up and have lists of questions for your doctors and your medical staff. Because they're gonNA give you the easy way out the economy politics can shuffles some Chemical Medicine at you that you're just GONNA say okay. Thank you take it and just assume it works but it may not work. There might be another like something that you can do for it or this more more answers you can get that will give you a different version to follow her. And it's just Benjamin that was wrong role no regime zoo me and my military a military marching band. So go that's right so it's all time together but after that hit the world regimes are really. Do you like this is an integral hybrid like indigo hybrids are used to do. Sativa started to give me anxiety. Finale of smoking sativa was. I had a really bad anxiety attack and it was the worst ever had. I've only had a couple here and there throughout my life. I've always I have like a a a stream of anxiety that comes flows in and out of like a flow especially during waiting for the announcement of the winner. I had anxiety but actual panic attack and I was in the bathroom on the floor Fetal position and I called up my wife and it was like the clock in the morning and she came into the Bout Them. She found me. She's what's going on Mctaggart out too high and so she sang she. She cuddled me and she sang to me One of Linda Belcher songs from Bob's Burgers as he was I forgot. What Song is now? She could tell you she remembers best. You just sing it to me in the left it or keep seeing it makes me feel better obsessing so sweet so that was the last time and ever since then switched into Gordon hybrids calms me down. Does he perform it? Slows me down. I'm a better performer actor. Okay 'cause I give Mike Subtleties Shurmur. More than we can slow things down because it seems like your mind is running at a very fast clip all the time and that can play hell with anxiety to right now. You said this. Sometimes there's a steady stream of anxiety. So do you mean sort of like? It's like the babbling brook that you know is there. But you just don't let it pour out onto mainland younger. Yeah so I don't need to medicate it. I don't need to really put much awareness into it. It's it's at the back end of things enough but sometimes it's more because of Trying to keep up with what people expected me. So that's kind of anxiety. is ruin and It comes up in different waves and then falls back and sometimes isn't there but a lot more recently. It's they're a little bit more. So do you find that? Sometimes with great success and excitement sometimes the anxiety. That the sort of dark stuff. Yeah yeah and I try not to think of it as stark because sure could be something that is like just fuel because if I do fall into a dark place I get just Lazy Shit. This is not the time for me to shit and I went through about of that. Actually like after Being announced the winner I was like I'm talking about being overweight kind of support. It's such a weird thing to be ready to hallway. Always talk about beautiful support that sometimes it's like I don't know what to do this much out there and I don't have space in my apartment for this costco size amounts and all like an and I would describe it without going into detail as I am now to the background of it but I would describe it as being over Overwhelmed in the most magical way Because it's so much beauty love and support and it's complements who who doesn't like an complimented but it was a so much. I don't know how to deal with it what to do with it. And then there was expectation of success and the success tunes and trying to enjoy like the expectation that you're supposed to be like. I'm supposed to be the happiest person in the world and suddenly that's struggling because it was there it was just this underlying anxiety that would like to keep down but sometimes it's bubble up and then they'll like why am. I thought I was think of that stuff is like a Pot. That's boiling on the Stove. And you're kind of like in the other room and you're like I should. I gotta go check and you know it's about to boil over right and somehow you have to keep it from everyone else at the dinner party Yeah thirdly you can't talk about it that but Yeah came because of I stay away from read it. I didn't I don't I don't I stay away from it and but other people don't and so sometimes I get like screen shots or things like that come my way and it was all beautiful my support of things and other people that do remember. They told me that I was a I was Showered with endless amount of support on that on that site and what I was seeing on my own post. You WanNA overseeing the brothers post on instagram or other social media that I follow. It was all so beautifully supportive for myself and so much that a kid getting more and more and more and then people would expect from every episode for me to. Oman allows kill it. And then whatever the case may be in. Luckily I did. There are moments that you film that. You're like Oh my God. Almost they're going to keep that in or that critique or whatever and then I'm going to be bad for that so it was no being out of control of all of that because I'm in control of all my art but I'm not in control of how it's being edited or like or taken by your TV audience. Especially because I perform in a different way than it was just for. Tv I was giving in to the TV form of exactly you didn't have a mapped out for the kind of shots and also the show is shot in different way it's not just a straight documentary style Capturing of the performance right. There's an interpretation the editing etc. So I'm curious Is Control a big thing for you outside of the art Outside of the arts. Not Much I do like having a key. Communication really appreciate lines of communication. Me Too I'm very like information like eat. I can stop me somehow. Let me know what to expect on this or or whatever. I don't need to be in control of it. I need to know that. There's some kind of communication coming towards me for it but when it comes to help people perceive my are or get get ella. That's when I was in how it's going to go down or switched because up to this point you were the only editor really. Yeah exactly and I make my own Music Mrs and I designed my own looks and still do. The music mixes all yourself. Yeah that's great. You know what in we might be going off track? But that's the show. I loved that she brought snacks for everyone on that one episode. I thought snacks didn't you or I mean hopefully miss remembering something or I don't remember if you had snacks for people and you know it's because of that. I got some snacks view. I'll take the snacks but I remember doing getting snacks. I got some pastries cake. Monkey off gave so many snacks people. Yes you never sworn you did not all of it because I'll be like hope so because otherwise we'll be proving myself what's a? Wow I'm intrigued. This is me being restrained because if I have a feeling I know I. I'm sorry I did. But but as the enough said cookie which is my favorite thing that's why couldn't L. Beckon and this is a pumpkin chocolate so and then also. There's these two little cakes here. Yeah they're kind of like like Like reimagined Ding dongs and Raspberry Red Velvet so we can pause for second to and just enjoy some cake. If you'd like okay. Cool Yeah Yeah. That's what reminded me on the tray and I put them out there so I wouldn't forget I am sell down. Okay purple please. Yes we'll be back in a moment. After enjoying some lovely cake monkey pastries thanks. Everybody part two of my childhood Landon Coming. Soon in the meantime feast all the delightful content available at Patriot. Dot Com slash Caribbean friends?

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#196  They Fell From The Sky

DJ Force X in Conversation

29:39 min | 4 months ago

#196 They Fell From The Sky

"Hello and welcome to the dj force. Tanning conversation podcast episode one hundred ninety six and my very very special guest on. Today's show is colin durant from the band. They fell from the sky which also features jason bold of my valentine and form of shift. The ankle and himself is of hundred reasons as well see may know him from that. He's the vocal part of this group And it's a fantastic new single. They have out who dry with planned other releases coming soon and everything like that as well. So we talk about that in the In the interview so gets look forward to that. There is a video component hop over. Youtube are the final on my channel or the wrong channel. It's on there if you want to see are faces but if you just want to hear the audio here we are and that will be with you shortly but yeah keep in keep reviewing keep subscribing all the usual taglines on that and yeah love and the feedback. I've got an absolute magnificent lineup of podcasts. Coming up i'm going to go through it with each so you know what to look forward to obviously we. They fell from the sky which is now because next week is stay asleep brand new band out of this area and it was a fantastic. I've already recorded. These will get got belva de if any of your into skate punk and stuff like that back in the day still around. I had them on the podcast. Fantastic the hyena kill banned from england. specifically manchester fantastic new album. Called a disconnect. Go check out absolutely brilliant. Siamese on the show as well this is going to kick off one of my Geli special on trying to put together the moment but they've got a brand new single out the moment enough ain't enough and yes fantastic and they're playing radar festival. Which is special. I'm going to have hopefully coming up but yeah. I'm going to try and get as many bands from radar on the show and your feature that the festival and pink festival this year. That's my festival to pick and Yeah 'cause happens local. He's got a fantastic lineup. Go check out if you love your sort of like prog metal as big riffs odd time signatures all that kind of stuff fantastic festival checkout also got new griqua ultra killer coming up on in in may they are a synth wave. Jo- incorporate very heavy metal guitars into it fantastic and alicia. Just go off zoom with them. Nothing noble another brand new band coming out of denmark and absolute fantastic chapters. Just had with them. I that is the lineup of what coming up. More pending some nice big names in there as well along with a lot of new bands. Which wanna get in. Wanna get these new people in. And i did loss jake if the exposure to them and occasionally bringing in big band just a just a pup you know what i mean anyway Come join me on twitch on live streaming first friday of every month on the tow truck chow and the schism club channel. I'm going to start doing a show on my own channel as well. I'm currently streaming games. So if you're into like fighting games like killer instinct tech in So caliber stuff like that come. Hit me up on a terrible gema so you can just laugh at me but they follow. The channel is at bj force x across all the social which you can find me on that that handle so please do that. And people are getting confused because our offense myself as j force ten but oh my socials are dj force ex. But it's the roman numeral for ten and it turned out to be funny but it was always originally. Dj forced ten. Said that before. But it by matter. Anyway i bring you call in from. They fell from the sky. Enjoy i would like to welcome So fat back way back way. Back in the day way back i'm call in the ran on the line here and he's currently out there with a band. Called they fell from the sky just released. Their new single could dry out which is out now for anyone listening coming. Come back to this of but yet welcome colon gets get to hear. Your studies is because they've never technically doing this same shots. Yes say you here you could see me hear me and if i shout loud enough you might hear me because i'm not that far away so varney down the writing kambli Yeah so next time but yeah no you hit took by your new pan alley project. Could they fall from the sky. You've teamed up with a jason boat of but if valentine and for me of pit shift. Yeah let's let's find out how that together first and foremost i. How did this This collaboration if you're this project come together. I'm well we kinda did stuff with this menace. I think jason. I've already had a pretty good so relationship I'm not very precious things. I think when things means something today yesterday do why don guy precious because it ended the day. Whenever you're ryan you've rod for the song jason kind of in the same zoll mentality in santa. If something's just not what can then it's just a weapon and we think we kind of realized that we have also a very good book Units right quick and easy when you saw can move jason. This is menace stuff. That was very much like calm lyrics written in the morning then recorded in austin for now and a half or whatever tight long You know you kind of developing Report from nan. I think when he started having a few days knocking rounds Thing to Baby tweak this tweak that. I've got some ideas. Tae an it slowly started to form into what it became but it was quite organic invite much denied knowing. So china change the world no one's trying to recapture all glory is or anything like that. It's just about this seems to be some way to music here The we kind of should be on so really what it's about you know. Just have enough self of creative outlet Minova jason now. They're not the bullet stuff. That's cool enough. amazing accountable. Lecture thinks he's literally on the best dramas in the well. Full stop literally compla- mice instruments tapes is pretty good Yeah as easy thing. And then what we did was ended up from china to kinda babe alive banned for while we cut a couple of showers but she is ago but it was very sporadic on. I think so again so gone back to the ban of a sudden agent trying to decide to the from just gonna the van for three weeks and comeback dole money hybrid bound by the wealth. Gotten out holiday. Leave anymore from my work. You're trying to make bound work on site. Farrah's it's much side. We just about so good. As that we hiked people were hearing enjoy. We call a guy. mixed it most it by guitar with him extensively sometimes without johnston. Sometimes ways Instrumental in this process as much as you know. Jason has side and it's happened over very long period of time as well my very long period of time. So this new single out Could dry when did you guys choose. Go back a little bit. Where did you guys get together to record. Was this kind of life. You got your own studio sapper. High or was set by during the in between the of major vans humanity so get some studio time or anything like that well. I'm not joking. Spain a period of a few years in fact a while yet because the initial ideas. I think we're literally around ten years ago in you kind of like someone's doing something. Hey someone's busy there are many discussions about whether you want to take into something more. Which again goes down to the three weeks in the van and coming back with the twenty five pay. If i'm an so of. I think a lot of it was even solve. Even what michael procrastination. If you went insults the decide what it was. Actually gun to bay. Yeah we kind of had the Dive recorded a lot with dive. I become down to Actually one of our track down at the studios dominos com. Yes tie a vocal down there Down with his mind bogg- aaron stop from did a few house it in dynasty up in cheltenham. It was quite kind of Just do that. I'm just into what ready reading well and because we did an advocate of tom. The song's about she's saying what you might go. Various interruptions in changes. Because it's been so pressure to release something in those deadlines to say. Well you gotta get out. We've had that luxury of combat to stop and think about. I'm not quite happy. Maybe this phasing even lock bay phrasing something. It's all on. That could just be changed slightly in tweets in just made that little bit better. It's been not kind of toy A passion project something been really enjoyable in terms of creativity because when you take any pressure off something and you just do it. Yeah thanks Today she would have just finished for jason. The near waldholtz record stuff live newswire on. How are you box with low to people so for him. His schedules ready busy. But he's kinda my advice Just end up gumbo of awake. Ken like next month's maybe we can drive up to incite an i o. He'll come down here the thing. It's just experience but in a good way pretty cool. Yeah now. that's really cool. I mean so. I mean the single dry out. I'm loving it of course centered from your your press agent person and Yeah it's it's it's really good. It's it's just got solid rock chain but with like he on it if you will so. It's not like middle of the road dad. Rock for instance thing for me is i i. I don't mind like lots of different types of music very much. but. If i'm gonna make something heavy i like it really heavy. Yeah if i like something to be big in epic venit Pick really do off. White house on stung even means in terms of nephew. Something lighter it's going to be nice it's gonna be really nice stereo You know that's kind of why i look at things. I think the record conduct reflects in. I particularly i think creative past now Johnson says well If you're gonna do it make a heavy yukon contradict a whole kind of thing. We're not trying to get on the right of the hair. It's like i'm what you go. Make something that is autistic satisfying as well. So yeah a crack and chain and fair. Play here and there for me. And i'm offering some of the other fellas deejays total rock of been spinning as well spring. Conaco tell us about the so. Actually i mind. Let me say it's dry out now. Primary shit there and now out now. It's about people to so quite lens to kind of keep things from people and it's something something to know kind of go in into a wig way but as you kinda get older you kind of start to understand things a little bit more in terms of how human beings on end meinhold athos. There were very much much as we might want to deny. All tried to hire a bit rule just animals at the end of the day. Yeah they spend a lot of time. Suppressing instincts which is the right thing today definitely in a lot of cases but i think can inside an areas. You know you can kind of look at people that you can tell that will people that naturally just to just goods kind great people and we call to start to see other people that may be have that trump but that doesn't necessarily make them they all and some of the songs have been a little bit exploratory. If you will into those kind of types of people that i think have of come across you know the people that could be on the surface just Light hearted way. W so disingenuous. Other people that i just don dock and so says Areas like that in. What have you about you know. I don't get me wrong. i'm no psychologist or size. Geologist shuffle but just still when you you know you grow bit in you start to understand his side you contact with It's a little bit like that. You get in to be fair. The law and the music industry. Like if you wanna breakdown. I've experienced my side of it many years ago. And i'm on this side of it now. I've i've seen those people where they're kind of the not so you can't take a face body got kind of certain people's instincts like you said america a seventy related just to the music industry. Yeah just people in general you know. Nobody's perfect at the end of the dynamo. How who wanna just anybody up. But i think just still trying to delve into little bit more. I think yeah tau and to bring it onto an album coming out with the s as got down spring twenty twenty one as a relief. The summer we've gone to the single oh to to come out before then okay email. That tells me the stuff out of area high already mount. I was just looking for a release ninety just sits spring. Twenty one definitely got this summer. The moment i'm gonna say. I'm just gonna say the end of july the plan right now okay. Cool dot could Because i've just going in an email to kind came through yesterday. I i'm saying anything i shouldn't dave a kanani apologize between not just a couple more taxes while toledo cohen. When's the next track. Gt dropped the information. That konczal rarely rarely taken on your journalism today ban on something the next one the next one. I've got down on a gun just shaving hitomi Fuck as he signed the my. I've got down to michael thanks to here on. That's good as a cracker to coca excellent. Excellent while i look for. I'm really thinking the one tracks. I fall and it was. It was nice to hear you again. if we if you wanna talk about hundred reasons and stuff of course not Yeah no like. I said the beginning we've known each other kind of on enough longtime a long time and still can say your didn't used to be about color. Yeah yeah exactly. Yeah i used to have hair under his hat which are no longer have sired had the hot. Yeah like going back actually sta funny enough recently. I've i've found a live recording of you guys as floor from way back when i used to book shows the this is a long time ago for some reason a mini disc with floor in on. It did not make that lasts for sure. Yeah and i haven't got me just playoffs. i. I haven't been of listen to it yet. But once alex is immediately regrets it. I possibly you never know. I mean. I've gone back and listen to very early. I've done yeah i just gets instantly deleted now landfill exactly exactly but yeah and i took it one hundred reasons to of like era of yours. I mean are still plans for you. Guys the stuff on a k. Usually of got back together and unaccountably shows longtime ago in fairness. Do we hang out a at the moment and things like that. And i think you're not from all sorts of things that we'd never say never i think not january to look at it we will still get on and if anything was to happen it'd have to be opposite. You're right for the wrong reasons. No pun intended. Yes matt perspective. Yeah we'll get we'll still talk Chaplain dot com sang Never say never but yeah not. that's cool i. It's just it's just because obviously following you guys since your inclination and so from there and then knowing you through like video games and stuff like that as well like where. He used to work and that kind of stuff for longer than music. I know you back. Yes yeah we definitely could just go to test. I'm i'm i'm. I'm still heavy gamer on that front days. I didn't have any of the new systems. All of the previous gen previous ones to that. And i love retro kind of life about all that kind of stuff. And i'm starting to go on to live streaming and stuff like that as well now. So mentioned four games over the raspberry pi four. Yeah now. I'm definitely against a couple of days like mini releases like the mini mega drive and stuff and that quite good emulators inasmuch as i want to get something i used to have an xbox the eastern run old emulators can still is a cold multiple those. Yeah i sold a lot of my collection when i moved to a different country and then of came back and while i look to buy stuff i in america like where i was living. And they're just that money went on something else. Sorry yeah. Comeback of accumulated more machines and stuff and all that kind of stuff site career in india. Mega jibes stuff like calm. I think the mega s j yes. brenton stuff out a having those by way. I would love some bits on awesome. Yeah i'm looking into that side of things once. Been up again and i've had a bit of clear out and stuff during lockdown whatnot. So it's time to get some other bits in happens oversee with the family. What you mean. Expensive hope if you see careful exactly there's a there's a whole rabbit hole you can fall down and it's Yeah i remember being very expensive. And i'm sure the prices have gone up since i was lost so of properly collecting. Say some of them walk a couple of questions left for you call in us all right we can get them the rest of the region and everything but yeah i've got these base just about self more than anything ends to my show if you will but what wanna find out from you call an issue of three most pivotal albums so talking about is the one like say the album that made you want to be in a band or made you want to sing or a particular album is incredibly like just pivotal for you in your lifetime. Easily angel. dust extinct People that are in my pocket can relate to that and understand that. Just incredible from start to finish And it kinda told me a lot more about Not just singing understanding ton. Lot more also just not necessarily a Not sorta turns out like an a it's going to be heavy because that's why like Go into any anything without a mindset of thinking. oh this has to be this wildest Why i go into it. With one of mike's like I think fights memo's out minded us almost the epitome of just making an album that you wanna make. I'm not really worrying about anything else. It's incredible incredible. Now go it quickly. Because i necessarily mean so much to me right now is maybe they did back in the data gone up top. The destruction was amazing. Just because it had will any to was one of the first as i listen to the miami feel genuine Started listening to music can think. Wow there was such to energy to that record outline The lit the fire site credit to jan off As in china dot just goes. I think albums get bad than that very often. It's just started. I'm gordon overstay side about nine steadily Because his voice was just incredible by justin credible on when you have an incredible voice with incredible songs. Everything with it. You can't go wrong Ago some honorable mentions them. Michelle a cut. Study three nice just because the way the album is strong. Love michelle go anywhere. Fire bonds for the way that that record is particularly structured leaving from one to the next is just janus and then just lost one obey Yes yes. I'm awa yet like me in general very good But nine stories was an amazing record as well coup again just learning Listen listening to music and kind of leading His always while. I enjoy tasty just looking at it at sites value Hoping to the table in terms of days. And i've listened to early release. Isn't that very very good. Yeah about one was just me that just at best work in its while dies awesome. Nice nice and this public penny of others as well as sick of old Scott office back on the guy a musicale call on three albums on him. What can i say. I'm out rick. Right that's good. That's good nice some good albums in their angel dust. Absolutely fantastic album. Yeah one of my favorite more facts as well so guns and roses. There's nothing i can say about that in any way. The is is a superb album. It's a classic. Yeah alison china's that the al fantastic. And i haven't heard in a while so i'm gonna go back and listen to that. One animals are going to listen to schicker and me as well. That particular album get reacquainted with michigan. Anyway and check bows well. So there's some good choices that somebody resolves the question. So i can actually listen to something and say maybe rediscover something. I haven't heard for a while. I'd also like see where you kinda get your news from if you will not to use the pun on that but but yeah yeah. I don't think. I mean bands like michelle game smell even by justice. It's not music. The i would normally like go ahead and make necessarily but to stephen. I wouldn't get into all the way rhythms and stuff that i get into that but it's even just the way the just hit sucking off hit with the snap even little things that we just got. Wow that is incredible by the way Placed or just a little thing like i don't know Yes the songs so ready Tentacles applied men just got on the old saying goes who plays yes. Yeah nice cool check out again but you have a final question. My we've already covered this but what hobbies away from music. I january just hang out with my amazing awesome family while a very much or spend some or guy the wife as much as possible thing. What's been ready to go to buy lockdown actually. Yeah Gaming doug me dat much else. Really not a undecided way on august. I enjoy gaming not very good at games. I'm actually just not good them. But i enjoy them and i appreciate them for what they are. All i signed. I am nailing new game plus on the adjuster holiday Game lobby tough. But yeah there's there's plenty of just it's it's an awful. I think in itself not just done. I kind of enjoy get enjoyment from just plying. Your succeeding is nice. But i'm always worried about that necessarily just enjoy something. I got to another world. Enjoy not fun. Yeah yeah. I mean this affected by thing with especially our generation of gamers is just like because i cost myself as a particular good game or two like i pick it up. Playing involved in in whatever world is is that like the miami. I'm heavily into killer instinct again like that back when it was in the al qaeda and autoshop that pumping pound coins into that thing. And i'm just getting back into the game pass on xbox and it's there so i'm like oh wicked from tastic. Get off from shot to shot triggers as well so people that are in the will. Now i'm talking about okay cool so anyway. Mt short triggers. Check on that stuff and two amazing. Anyway yeah cool. Well call it. Thank you very much. It was great speaking and get see you again off. The gays i think is a long time. It was a long time. It has been a long time has been leaving. But hopefully once once of lockdown lifts and stuff and and we might bump into each other somewhere in various exchange guy metaxas. What we should do is yes. That's what we should Gamma tax time have too. Many friends are generally kicked to people. That actually are okay. Cool so yes hit start recording amendment so advertise it to everyone. Yes that's fine. Say guy tax wealth and stuff but yeah no cool. Let's say thank you very much. I'm joined the music that you might kid from and the rows of it so i thank you very much thank you.

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Episode 452: Horrors of Malformed Men (1969)

The Projection Booth Podcast

2:03:22 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 452: Horrors of Malformed Men (1969)

"Christopher media let's make some noise what number we thinking of sixty nine uh-huh not look do you not INNUENDO squishy or null. If you hold I Joel now. Michaela couldn't match gaining sticks capable the amount of your taking making your show or cave. It's the most some some next gaining noam open all night. y'All next DOC. Thank you what does Shawn Colonial he Aw Donald George take another one welcome to the projection booth. I'm your host. Mike White join me once again. Is Ms just fired. Hello also back in the booth is Mr Ben Buckingham. Our appreciation of one thousand nine hundred sixty nine continues what they look at Terro issues. Horrors of malformed. Men based on the ratings of Edogawa Rambo. The movie tells the tale of Hero Suitca. Hitomi played by Tara Yoshida when we first see him. He's locked up in an insane asylum. And things only go downhill from there. We will be spoiling this movie. So if you haven't seen it before please stop the podcast and go watch it. We will still be here so Ben. When was the first time you saw horrors of malformed men? And what did you think I was trying to remember where I I came across this. Because it's just kind of a film that I feel like I've always been aware of while doing some research. I found that the first international reference to discussion of it was in the Fil Hadi's encyclopedia of horror her and I was like. Oh Yep Yep that would be heard of it and you read the title or as phone man you go yes had to watch list immediately and then spend almost twenty years trying and find it. I think I would've bought these synapse Davide which was also the first at it. Definitely the first international release. I think it might have been the first stevie release altogether North American release says spicing APPS. I'm pretty sure I ordered. That ended watched it and then shared carried a bunch of people and then screened at my back of Bom film night and traumatizes the whole bunch of people and then a not not long after they did the first itchy retrospective at the Soudan Festival Festival in Italy they screened that thirty five the print Phone men here in Melbourne at the Melbourne International Film Festival. So I I sort of have come at it from multiple angles all of which have been intriguing and unusual ways to see it which given it's sort of a history of being very widely seen as kind of the opposite of most people's experienced about you. Just I I came across this movie when I was in high school in the part of these old net afflicts forums that don't exist anymore but That was pretty much spent most of my formative years making list after list after list list of crazy horror exploitation or sci-fi or anything sort of adjacent to to any of those genres and again. Yeah I I put it on my to watch list and then I just hadn't seen it until I washed it for this podcast. So yeah I I watched it for this podcast and I'm really glad that I did I. I watched it on a bluer. Actually it was Kinda funny. My husband purchased me the Ero Blu Ray release of this for Christmas because he one of my wish listen. I had thrown it in there recently and he was like yeah. It was at the top of your list so I thought you wanted it really bad and I was like yeah. I totally do because I want you know I want to watch that version for the projection booths. So yeah. This blu-ray really delivers an. I'm I'm glad that I finally got to knack this film off my list and I definitely want to watch more of issues. REPETOIRE which I understand is even harder to find God yes and no. There are a lot of things out there. But he is if not as prolific as McKay. Probably Pretty Darn close close. I mean the guy put out so many movies is just crazy. I want to say he had at least three movies this year. If not for in nineteen sixty eighty nine so it was just he was just cranking them out man and to the point to where a lot of the titles just start to run together because he would also do a lot of series. So there's like the line series and just the joy of torture I think is one of his series and stuff so he was just making Boo Koo movie. Okay so it's kind of tough to keep up with him to your point also. You can't really find very many good copies of this stuff in horrors of malformed men or sorry horrors of malformed performed. Men was a movie that I came across the title. Probably on Thom Fitzgerald's infamous pimple Delic Wonderland list of hard are defined or impossible to find movies. Because for a lot of years you could not get this movie at all whether you are in the states or in Japan. Dan and there were a lot of theories. As far as why is that was there something really incredibly objectionable and hear. What was the story with this movie? Why was was this movie? Essentially banned for all these years and I think a lot of it has to do with the idea of malformed people that malformed is a the original word in Japanese apparently is very offensive. So it'd be calling this a movie about like the R.. Word or just like really awful foil American words English words and also when you think about when this came out and the history of Japan and just that there were probably some quote unquote malformed l.. Formed people around due to either war injuries or radiation from Nagasaki and Hiroshima that there. This was probably speaking a little bit to that too so I think that people look down upon that whole idea of these mutant creatures that they have in the film yet. It was released on Halloween. Hello Wayne in nineteen sixty nine. Sorry they were definitely leading into the the horrific element of it when they released it. But from what I understand he had the full support Oughta of toby studios and they were they they even though it was pulled and it was it was pulled from circulation. Long Relase ended ended. Never received a home video Davide realize until this century. It's still did do screenings like midnight. Screenings wasn't entirely alley. A band film. It was kind of kept up. The sleeve is something to pull out every day on the crowd and ahead. It's Myers but always obviously that was very localized to Japan and a very small handful of cinemas and I can see this being especially in nineteen. sixty-nine and I mean Japanese happening culture is a very conservative in reserved culture. There's not there's a lot of sort of perversion and sex associated in this movie with this movie. You know the island itself is sort of this fantasy islands type resort if I guess for for our lead characters pseudo father. It's his sort of just playground and a place where he can act out and be is him and is involved in the says he wants to be sort of outside of the purview and watchful watchful eye of the family and everyone outside of the family so I can see this being a sort of shock to the system to for are Japanese film boards and General You know just like here with her just like in the in the UK with video nasties or just like here with censorship censorship and you know hey code things like that. It's all just sort of a mix of conflicting ideals. I guess it reminds me of Texas exchanged massacre in a number wise. I think it's it's just that in some ways it's just the title. It's a kind of like you've Texas chainsaw in Baske- if it had been called the yells at wouldn't have stood up nearly mealey's much controversy as did but it's just that impact that dawdle horrors of mouthful man just immediately So it's funny. You said that because I was was as I was watching this end. Our main characters sort of assumes the identity here was just picturing like he essentially as soon as the identity to the worst family could assume your identity to next to the people in the family that Texas chainsaw massacre like have you tried to comment on me like yeah. I'm going to inherit this meat meet farm. And everything's GonNa be grail crap. They're cannibals all right so they do have The grow has genre the vodka task that it does grow out of the traditions of sugar. which is as a role take it was labeled as anti being obscene and a was was theoretically banned but it was it was still prevalent and everywhere through the nineteen th century in only really really started to get Locked down and it was only really. You're fully band when they started integrate more with the West and it's instead classic thing of we don't want to present themselves as being this Ustralia the same thing in the seventies where it's like. We wanted to present picnic at hanging rock. We didn't I didn't want to present Turkey shirt. Sooner was the Osbournes Tation of Japan the nowadays century. So that's the way the girl comes from mm-hmm and you know Edgar ramp is tapping into the traditions combining them with Western traditions and so it is kind of pushing back against this Nationalistic jingoistic culture. That is developing starting to close itself off even as its reimbursing the West and we should probably note that this the full title of this movie isn't just horse of for men that it's like collected works of Edo Gala Rambo because they are pulling notches from one story story when it comes to Rand Paul but a whole bunch I think I counted like six different stories that there are bits and pieces matched up to this. There's a lot to do with the strange range tale of Panorama island but there are other bits and pieces. There's even a little bit of his story. The human chair that's mixed in here. There's things about twins and and this is just kind of mixes and matches all of these different bits of his stories and puts them all into one. Stu and I think that's one of the reasons why. This movie feels slightly disjointed at times. Because we are we started in this insane asylum we move out of the asylum. We had this whole weird like north by northwest scene. Where where he's holding the knife that Stabs this woman that he just meats and he's there and I'm surprised that photographer didn't come on. Take a picture right then. Then there's the part that we were talking about About him assuming an identity and becoming part of this other family and then the movie take a left turn again and ends up going to this island that the father of the family has. It's a little bit scattershot but I think just because it's All presented in the same tone and stitch together through the editing. That this doesn't feel like you are taking six different stories and just kind of cramming them together other it actually feels feels like this whole thing cohesive to me I did not read all of the various stories that are that you found in as I did start reading Panorama island. I think I'm about halfway through it and there are. I think that probably the majority of this plot is taken from that one like just the the the biggest plot points being the island itself the assuming identity again it's also kind of it's very different. I think from this movie because I don't know if you guys felt the same way but or if you got you read any Panorama island but the lead character in paramount island is a lot less likable than the one in malformed men and not that the one malformed Mendez particularly. I mean he's not really terrible. We don't really know him to do anything. Nothing bad. We don't really know why he's in the institution to begin with the worst thing he does is obviously assume. The identity of the dead man turns out it doesn't really matter but in Panorama island. He's a much more. I think you know deceptive in out for himself kind of character wherein malformed men. He sort of takes a turn turn because once he realizes what's going on he wants to help the family and sort of his father's weird experimentation. I didn't get a chance to raise the stories but I think in in in the book foam it's easy to juggle the multiple elements whereas the film is already so are overloaded and fulled such dramatic characters and such that simplifying that my in carry a very much make him how access point in in Tule. This works in the film's favor and he is very much. That blanks light the way that it happens. It's yet you mentioned north by northwest but if it felt very which it's itchy had made a number of very west and influenced Noirs previous to this and I watched one of issues. Carr's flesh Pierre and it reminded me of lot of Jill Dawson's working that very location based and very real and dealing with a lot of things that American while wasn't wasn't dealing with and that urban especially with the voice over Newark. Narration has that feel of Noah not just in the types of wapner. The Voice Service Mystery man as you will that kind of stuff but that that feeling that the nation feels like a thread. That's already pulling him fullwood would that destination is kind of inevitable. Even though we have absolutely no idea how we're GONNA get there where it is that. How many twisted her? It's GonNa take to get there. It feels like the a threat is already got him and he's already doomed to whatever is going to happen at the end just like most latest woz voice over the mysterious bald Mayen and the asylum. Who wants to kill him the Lullaby that he thinks that he can hear the images of the cliffs that he draws out? Just all of this stuff. It's like okay. Who is this person then and I think that the actor that plays him does a really great job because he becomes that and and I think you pretty much the exact same thing just he's he becomes like the normal see in in this insane world? He plays it so straight he never goes off the rails like so many of these other characters do especially the father character. Who from the moment that you see him he is just one hundred percent wild in even has like mad monkey noises coming out of his mouth and stuff so it's just like wow so he is the the complete opposite of of who ends up being his father? No our feelings for sure man. That's coming I it mostly would say from the ramp. Oh was a mystery writer but this is some of like. Yeah this is not your American. You're not at all. I mean the second. We see his father. Unlike that that minute were were introduced to him. And he's doing his interpretive. Dance on the cliffs and running through the water is legitimately Bentley. Unsettling it legitimately just like it's funny and there's a lot of unexpected humor in this movie that works and is also just kind of you know it's pleasant silly and yeah our lead character just being the constant straight man in this world that just kidding getting even more absurd word but his father really that actor and the movement that he does. I mean it's he. It's not just that scene anytime. This akers here's onscreen. He's doing some kind of strange. You know fidgeting or dancing or whatever you WANNA call it and it makes my skin crawl it really does I. It's entertaining to watch. But I also Kinda WanNa look away and there were a couple of moments. I think here that you know as a horror horror fan and having these movies that are on these lists forever that I have you know checking them off as kind of like a very accomplished. I feeling but I'm always looking for the horror elements in them. And why they you know. Why would they be on these lists and their that his character alone and You know a scene later on in the movie when we're kind of getting the main exposition is to the past and the connections that all these characters have there's there's a scene where there's a lot of crabs crawling all over a corpse and I I had to look away. I had to look away for a couple of seconds ends because it was hard to watch and this also comes from the era of film that I'm never entirely sure if animal violence is real or not. That's definitely was Israel. It's such a staple lot of Italians intimate like even animal appease in Italian film which like that animal's going to die and it's very much the same Japanese and Chinese cinema. This will Italian Cannibal. Movies were influenced by by this or by films like this because when they arrive at the island and we get to see all of the sort of creations that the leader has made its I got I got a lot of Campbell. The Holocaust feels at a lot of seeing all of those people. Just arriving around. I just I. I couldn't take the scene out of my mind in Campbell Holocaust House when they're getting ready to destroy. That girl and I was waiting for something like that to happen in this movie. It it did not but I can definitely see a lot of that influence in their. That's a big cannibal fan. I was sitting there wondering does that count as cannibalism. If you eat crabs that have just eaten your boyfriend actly. Now now I feel like maybe tangentially. Yes that was something I just give it a lot as well because it really just didn't travel as far as I can tell liked liked. Is that just. I don't know people Overseas or like filmmakers and such but you could definitely there's so many strong connections I mean like even even with such works like Jordan Hausky Is being made about the same time released anonymous seventy there's a lot of commonalities with all Topa unholy mountain of the Italian directors. I would definitely consider the issue in data Merced akin to each other barth working in the same kinds of extremities and coming from various of grounded earthy background bought willing to take extremely bizarre flotsam. Lots of fancy. I would love to know what issue was reading. Because a lot of this remind me of the theater of cruelty And the works relating lighting to that which I never heard that judge ASCII was definitely drawing on deodato would've been aware of Even full she as well when you look at someone like watching Japanese hell go one of issues later films. There's a lot of similarities with the beyond these depictions of hell. Obviously that's a long time after the beyonce made twenty years is but it's still you can feel that they're all kind of tracing back more through these manifestos and theories and the tempts Choy and push pushing the foam into different directions and issue was definitely. He was very much about that. Trying to explore new things new ways of of presenting ideas in cinema and you know that the TV his earliest successes were the the stom- in series which I haven't seen any of but they essentially stopped a whole series of sci-fi films that. Stop the superheroes in called paces in ridiculous outfits outfits like the information and all that stuff at itchy basically started that sub-genre which are still continues to this day in Japan and throughout the world. And so he was he was very kind of class. Sticking way was willing to go and you know he came to doing those films after working with some of the most respected Japanese as filmmakers who You know the kind of people that get played at cinematheques now whereas issue still largely ignored. So he's he's influences a pretty diverse but he was really on a Friday. Just go out there and get in the mix and explore and try new things and that really pissed off a lot of people that he was he was. He was very unpopular unpopular Tory There was actually a I think as group is twenty something. A assistant directors got together and signed a petition to have him fired. Ed from Taurean Everett work with game because they considered he's torture Fiona and he's horror films to be bringing about the end of cinema. Yep Yep we've been talking about the cinema for a long time the listen to the some audio commentaries that are on that our was mobbed schilling. Who met with itching to organize the the retrospective in Italy? He's described him as playful. He said that was absolutely like the the one word that you would most US describe easy that he was incredibly playful and he's just had this energy and he just. I think that's what you're saying. Just about the humor humor in the film that unlike a lot of Asian cinema where the humor is a bit sort of on the news or slapsticky. It's like Huby he does feel a bit more L. Ganic and even though it is like. He's quite nightmarish and horrify. He can feel that kind of like that. It's coming from an actual person that kind of sort of oppong playful personnel. which much like Diatta like has that kind of personality when you listen to to him talk and yeah absolutely the movies films? You See. You're like Oh yeah even watching. He's films from the seventies still that incredible energy in that playfulness. They just the obsessive nece with cinema that he had and schilling says that even running around the film festival in Italy you still had a camcorder with him in recording everything that he just loved looking things through a camera and I think like I always think of that as as having like a Keno I disorder. Whereas it's like you're born with you just born with Aquino on? You can't escape but you just have to make films no matter what I was watching a feature at on the APP blu-ray and it was In various directors talking about their introduction to Itchy and later on meeting him and everything and the one part that hair is showing him a video Komo his hand knees eighty some years old and are like he's eighty seven years old me so making sure you know independent films like man. I hope that I'm I'm that kind of eighty year old. I hope that I have still. I still have the will and the energy and just the ability to keep myself. I love going and doing something that I love for that long. 'cause yeah I mean it comes through. I mean this movie. It's a creepy movie. It's an interesting movie. It's a funny movie and I think I'm fit like all really you know all good movies sort of go above John. They just kind of fit into everything I think they can be. You know you can place different references in different. Inspirations in everything to them and I think that e she being as prolific prolific as he was like I said this is the only film of his that I've seen and looking at IMDB. Mike you said he it's crazy. It's seeing five six six movies. He's directed in one. You know in nineteen sixty eight. That's that's insanity that you can direct that many movies in one ear Electa to suit quick he liked to have a professional crew. Knew what they were doing and wouldn't questioned him and so he could just tape it moving and he could fly through it and apparently he had a he had great confidence in as as an editor and he knew that he would be our title to get enough that he could make it work in. I and czar. He wasn't afraid of like we need to sit up to this. We need to sit up to that. It was like turn up. It looks like work with it. Engage with a keep moving. Keep shooting so that definitely is powder would help for that speed of getting it made and I think someone like a concussion meek as very much like that and another filmmaker who I think is definitely inspired by Ishiyama guest Bah you know. He's I think he returned turn to Returned definitely on his best full when he made climax which he went for that same kind of feel where they shot that he would like seventeen days or something and so I think that that definitely helped propel kind of enoch kick energy. You're just really do it even like we were talking about the father play by on Tatsu in Qatar. Now that he's He's the founder of the Bhutto Dance Movement of Thumb avant-garde Japanese Don's movement was specifically designed to join line. Take Don's back from Western influences and to create a specifically Japanese Don's the modern Japanese Don's one that was very invested in the body and breaking down boundaries and confronting taboos when they went to those of you took that amazing introduction of his character when he's on those rocks and his body. Just twisting stink moving and everything. They just went to that location and Tatsu just started climbing over the rocks and just explorer and the penalty. They would just like. Oh God oh God he's GonNa die and apparently he was quite ill at the time as well but he just like he'd got to. That space was just so invigorated by the environment. A the judge me just had to leap into there and just leap into the water and and dig in and so you can definitely understand why they work so well together because they had that kind of connection of being table to just look at a space and find the inspiration for you. Were talking about the theater of cruelty and I think that Budo in the theater of cruelty would go hand in hand and one on one side of the world and one on the other and that they use so many of the Bhutto dancers for the people that are on the island. I thought was a really smart thing to do everybody. Everybody that's not supposed to just be a regular normal person. Visiting the island has an interesting movement to it. And it's a constant movement every scene everyone on aside from your main character and the travel companions who I guess are probably the not quite as interesting part of this movie for for the most part they just Kinda hang out in the background later on but yeah it's having them as dancers in having that just sort of again more energy. The in each scene is great because it just keeps every scene lively even if you're watching basically a scene of exposition which there are a lot aught in this movie but it's now a hindrance to it. I pulled this great court from Anton. Lauds theatre of cruelty metaphysics are are. They can be nice spectacle without an element of cruelty as the basis of every Shar in prison. Degenerative State Metaphysics must be made to enter the mind and through the body. That's like this does that entirely and the Bhutto downs move on one hundred percent that body horror that just unsettles you and and the Aesthetic Gov as well that it's your you know what exactly you're being presented with when you say these people the combination of the way that they a moving body and also the costumes and makeup. It's like is that makeup mental look dodgy in shape or is it beyond it's so horrifying and demented that comprehend what it is and your brain just gonNa keep switching back and forth between these two merge totally displaces. You are definitely what what theater cruelty is meant to do. It's meant to displace you and make you start to engage and actually think about it on really dig into it and I think that's a lot of this. I think there is a very strange sense of morality in issues films and I think he's. The white is not necessarily demoralized. This is something is necessarily a good or bad but that he is absolutely willing to press you up against the gloss of something dangerous to make you you consider your Boundaries in what you think is right proper and yet I think that's part of why this film definitely has that impact because it doesn't and let its audience off the hook at any point if you haven't seen this movie which I highly encourage you to do think about more modern j horror kind and of staff the garage The Ring Pyro. Each one of those have been influenced by this Bhutto Dan style so the whole idea of I can't remember the characters name but the little dead girl in the ring her and her movements comes thank you Samara coming out of the TV. In just the way that she moves that is totally that Bhutto style of movement that we're seeing just you can feel that as you watch this film and and see the way that these characters move and you go. Oh okay now I you see the influence of that so many years later because that was like you were saying that it was a post war kind of movement and it carries through even today and you write about about the makeup effects like the whole idea of the people who are merged with like the goats or the twin where it's the beautiful girl and then the hideous creature the hideous creature looks like the just stepped right out of the incredibly strange creatures who stopped living and became mixed up zombies and what what about the vice headed person in the cage. Has Somebody stuck a hidden a thing of rice and just come out as like a bowl of rice now into the eating dean themselves as somebody else. Is that even rice. What the the film is what about hundred minutes long? And you don't get to the island until oh about halfway through and then you just slammed for about twenty minutes with a cavalcade of what the fuck the full like compress Holy Mountain into twenty minutes. And you're going to something of an idea of what he again. As soon as you arrive on the island you were talking about noir in this. This whole idea of our bank character taking over the life of another character whose died. I mean that has happened so many times in different war films or especially like quote unquote. The Sheriff is showing up and we don't know what he looks like but Willem dafoe is is going to assume that it's him or the Hitman we don't know what he looks like. And so we're GONNA assume that it's Nicholas Cage Red Rock West or something. So it's just that whole idea as a pretty common trope as well but I do like in this one. It's this idea of. He's not necessarily doing it for to solve a mystery. He is solving the mystery of sorts but a lot of it is because he just. He's on the run because he's now the the wrong man. He's the Alfred Hitchcock man and he just so happens to have the same monje slash swastika. Ah Birthmark on his foot as this other guy who he finds out his dead in the papers and the imagine leaving your your footprints on the sand with that but I love that whole thing of him than trying to impersonate the dead man and again that voice over going they just like Oh shit is left handed. I almost made a mistake. It's it's so much fun at given going through those sains. It's it's it. has this just like a weed delightful kind of energy and and in that stuff that it reminds me of a lot of Seven deaths in a cat outside the Antonio Margarete film which is much like this feeling a bit of a mash up of a whole bunch of Graham Peru stories sort of filtered through you a you're gothic gala. That has a similar kind of sort of playful gleeful to it out. The CONAN doyle was a a big influence on Edgar around pro and he created. He's chillicothe arms as character with the Kogo Apache Her is in this film. Briefly sort of briefly and that seems to be a very often CONAN doyle. She'll occurs. Could you must remember that Ed grail empower was actually a a creator of the detected. Noble that he's considered her written the first detective story. And so even that is is much more overnight growl info element and and I know you remember that in reading this when they wrote about it in the Encyclopedia of horror in the in the eighty s that they incorrectly he described this as being inadaptation of all of Dr. which like you can see those flavors in them? But it's not especially saw so and it really is. It really does have a lot more in common. With William Wilson which is at gallopers story or via a double Ganger and there are there are numerous dapo gains in this film and doubles and it very much ties. It in with perused interesting the uncanny the on Heimlich the harm but not harm which this whole film is just like. Everything is on Kenny in this film because not only is our main character. Our main actor are playing two roles but also the woman that he stabs or someone stabs in he gets blamed for she will show up later on as one of these two twins as well. I believe so. We've got characters that are playing multiple roles which is nice and then having the twin characters talking lots about historical the antecedents. Our out prefiguring in cells as you start to go into other vampire like blind base dislike. Yeah this is this fizzles sounding quite familiar out. Current discussion of psychotic males just was saying Hitomi of the story is much more of an autocracy type. In cell character where he just sits around and fantasizes all day about this world that he wants to create these journals that are just filled with drawings and ideas and thoughts and he he ends up going to the silent after he takes the place of this other person then who is his exact double but they have nothing. As far as I remember in the story. They are not related. That just happened to be a double that he met at college login. He can pass for him and he ends up going to the island and spending the fortunes of this family to make this beautiful island of of all of his desires. Yeah there's no father figure that's like controlling. All of this is he goes in there and basically just like fuck your family. I'm taking your money. And there's this whole weird thing where he he's Afraid Fall in love with the dead man's wife and at one point the wife finds out and I WANNA WANNA say she finds out because he might have a bigger Dick than the dead man designed right. I believe that is correct. Yes but out and see. I thought that they were GonNa to do that in the movie because there is when he is I you know introducing himself to a family and later on that night. He's laying in bed and she me. You know wants to sleep with him. But he's like I don't know if this is a good idea because it's could ruin at all and I was Kinda like are you trying to insinuate something here that like what would end so yeah in. The story is because he's bigger than her first husband so we don't go there in the movie but yeah it's this whole it's much more of a power complex in the story than in Panorama island than it is in the movie at least for the the main character. It's actually really fascinating because one of the things that I reminded me of Texas chainsaw massacres with this. The the the idea of vow elders using US and objectify buying you know younger generation and essentially cannibalizing cannibalizing Needs which makes a lot of sense in his gods the transitions that Japan had been going to and I had assume that that would be the same in the story because as I said earlier the period in which vampire was riding a time in which you know the conservative. If if much like two hundred years ago pretty much exactly. The conservative Powell is on the rise and there was much more of a closing society in the you know the eldest trying to put the youth in their replace. These western influences that the youth embracing was going to destroy Japanese society and and someone Rampart was was gonNA perversion indignation of their mobile's all this kind of thing and it's just like again it's like a hundred years. Guard millennials were destroying everything In how old story at that would match As far as adapting. That's quite cliff for him to switch. Switch it around like that. Because is in a way it. It illustrates more. Would Rambo was experiencing in his time as a young person working in these fields that he was subpoena being for that they did pass into people was which was deemed to no longer be out the stories that he wrote me ended up writing a lot of foot of like Kathi boy style books which is what a lot of like issues such grew up on and so he's actually he's period of sort of really grotesque nightmares stuff is actually quite small small because he was just outright shutdown. And so yeah they I think in the field represents that these these these the older generations the oldest structures. You know the old traditions nations are represented as monstrous and destruct deer and controlling Even though they represent themselves as being outside again commonalities without contemporary era you have visit rich powerful male who is in charge of the family in the area correze trying himself as a victim who has to get. He's vengeance against the world by Atrocities against people on us. It's it's as you know when you look at. Japan was then taken the wool by its elders in the name of nationality and nationalism arisen everything it's it's quite a striking series of connections and a really. I think it elevates the film when you start to really dig down into that it's it's it's going down so many different rabbit holes as I was investigating this film because there's just so many different ways of of of reading it that not only applies the Japanese culture. But as you watch it now and it's like Oh this is yeah he I can see coming out. Yeah and our main character being Detective of sorts in trying to dig through and figure out. What's going on with this family? Once he infiltrates it when he finds the old woman in the attic. And it's just like okay. What the Hell is going on here? If feels like there are politics that he is unaware of between the I don't know what would you call this character. He's he's like the person that takes care of the finances for the family. He sees the Stuart. Thank you to have some things going on. And then also there are all these women that live in the household and it seems yeah it seems like he was having an affair with one of the maids so now he has to balance out the wife versus the made and they will continue on with this affair so it feels like he's the same person as he was before because everybody is so suspicious of him though made is like you. Don't talk to me the same. I'm way anymore. You barely looked at me. And it's like why didn't know I was supposed to look discovers how it's not easy walking a mile in another another man shoes literally in this is just women Thornton himself with Rod and center star made things he's got a hip Donis And I mean. I think that that definitely goes hand. In hand with what you were saying about elders sort of controlling the use in making them basically puppets in their game and that's essentially what what happens here is he comes in and one hand. He thinks that he has the control. Because he's the one who's assumed the identity and is now whatever his intentions are he's wants to complete them and then suddenly he finds himself assuming the identity but also assuming all the burden in assuming all the responsibility. Hey in assuming all of just everything that goes around goes along with that character is life and I think that that's how I think that now that the top probably a lot of youth feel I mean I guess I am a youth. I often feel that way in that. I am dislike here to just replace the other other people that were here before me to do this job to keep things going for the people above may older than me so that they can maintain their you know way way of life and status of living regardless of how it impacts me or my future or anything like that so yeah I definitely see. I think that this movie is very eh relevant to now and yeah. We've I think we've a lot of us have been the unsuspecting like all right. I got this new opportunity. Everything's GonNa go great outcrop now. I I have so much more responsibility in so many more things that I was not counting on. And do I even want this anymore. The consistently represents Korea's as a trap because he he's he find out that he was the you know the younger brother who was sent away to become a surge in order to master the art of deforming people. Oh so he's well. For various reasons. We are still not entirely clear on because that was when it starts really just exposition. But yet get as essentially he's life is predetermined by his father and he has no choice and only he's abn easier has prevented him from being aware of that but they also when the detective turns out than does he's massive exposition dump. We find out that many of the people specifically basically the women on the island were entrapped through Advertisements job and that's our evils got. They went to have a career to have a job to have freedom to have something which many women hadn't that up until this period in Japanese culture and for it to be a trap that by other than just captured and taken to the island and made into slaves and deformed the whole film represents these different aspects of society. He's just saying like on the surface it can it can it. Can you can use look at this film. And just a lot of exploitation and nastiness and such. But it's it's actually it's doing the classic thing that exploitation or as did that it was willing to push up against boundaries and borders that mainstream wasn't willing to address and talk about and that is really progressive in these unusual ways in that it's it's it's not it doesn't it doesn't even really judge any of the characters and I. I think she may be when you watch something like Japanese. Hell I think. Maybe she shifted a bit in and how he perceived the characters later but the morality of the film is to just like mess with people's to just kind of take. Don't be an asshole and do your own thing so at actually. I was thinking Mike. I think this is the first film you've had me on to talk about. That has a happy ending right because you can consider that a happy ending I was thinking it's it's it's Because grenade me laugh the the Arizona is the father was wrong and releases the wife. They make amends and and the couple end up together again the happily ever after as long as they live which is very long and his vows. We Dr Even people get to go back to whatever compared to all of the other films. You've I've had me on. This was a happy ending immortal Joe died and Furioso becomes deleted. You're happy I guess. Yeah that's true Cherokee bad backs x was slightly happier than this one. I don't know if this is just a shorthand but I've noticed that this movie has a lot of use of newspaper and then even like tickertape headlines as being exposition ways also to move the story along as soon as something seems like it's going to be all it's like you read a newspaper and all of a sudden it's like. Oh Hey you're identical twin died now it's time to do that. Or when he quote murders the girl in at the circus we have the big headlines that look like if they're going across times square so it's kind of a nice little trip that we have to hurry up and move the story along as well I mean he is jamming so much stuff into this Eighty minute something movies. Just it's kind of wild. I mean I like that aspect of it too because it kind of goes along with the Noir Style and sort of hitchcock style forties movies of just at. Yeah we need to announce something or we need to move the plot and he really quick. So let's do a spitting a newspaper right now. Boom boom boom there. It is and that I love that. I missed that in movies. I wish we would go back to that sometimes. Weird moment to I just want to call it out because it really threw me the first time I saw this film. Which is he doesn't escape from the insane asylum? He kind of walks out of the asylum. There really is no escape escape. His way he meets the one girl who singing the Lullaby and then right around thirteen or fourteen. Not Minute Mark we fade to black and then we fade up and then it's the circus and he's still with the girl or the girl was part of the circus and then he shows up and he's got a beard and it's like was this shot later on or what is going on with this but then the next time we seem he's got an eye patch on and then my at least with the eye patch agi understand that he's trying to hide his identity now that he's a murderer but unaware the beard came from and I don't know how much time passed between when he escaped the asylum. And when the circuses. But it's just like a really threw me the first time I saw it. The time line is a little muddy for like the first half of the movie because there is just kind of trying to get main character. You know trying to get him to where we need him to be on the island Enya. I was a little thrown off by that too. I I thought the time had passed but then like you said like I think maybe he just I don't know maybe he just had the beard for the circus and then he was like all right. I'm leaving and I got impress these people also. I'll shave my face which I think. Maybe if he's supposed to be looking at you know pretty identical identical to that guy he's gotta take the beard off. Which makes you know that would make sense? I also feel like that and I don't know if it was just because I have been watching a lot of lynch recently but that sequence. Where he we re leaves the mental institution bumps into that girl? She's just walking down the street singing that Lullaby at night in that end of the circus did just kind of have a Lynch flavor to it to me. I'm not sure at all if Lynch would of been watching anything like this than which I mean I feel you like maybe he would have but yeah I don't know I just I. It kind of reminded me of the in the return to twin peaks. The return The infamous the gotTa light episode with the teenagers is just reminded me of the beginning of that where they're walking through the Just down the street in the dark. The guy just kind of had similar feelings towards it up this not Who Actually said? I think it's the detective tokes about episodic memory and I think the film takes that structure too hot that it is this sort of epizotic Coming out of he's GonNa feud state in the asylum at its fragmented as if he's being drugged and in some ways again leader they did so many you get somebody like cultural resonances. Twelve monkeys like as in like Which is past present? Where is he that kind of thing but also the be it like I love? Watch it on BLU ray for the first time and it's so obvious. How many of the beads at bike? Because he can see little plugs and so I I I you know we. We've talked a lot about on director's still make love to draw attention to artifice to really sit in or disrupt disrupt the audience and I honestly icon. I don't think as she likes to draw attention to artifice but I don't think he's at all afraid or concerned concerned about it because for instance one of the monks when they find. He's resurrected body as a bold head which is very clearly a fake bold. Tade because you can see that sticking out the back of these. I know some people actually dislike those monks and I thought that little bit of comic relief. It was absolutely appropriate for this. Movie is full weekend. At Bernie's Marmot loved. It always down for a weekend at Bernie's it wasn't if it wasn't for quack doctors like you off. The dead people would be alive today but there is these injury like much like the deformities of the the people on the island. It's like is it meant to look not real like yeah I'd like I. I is looking at the blu-ray it looks like he's got himself a fake beard and mustache and I didn't read that the oldest team having grown note but then I did think that like he does get rid of immediately afterwards so of course he's Court court. You know stabbing the quotation about stabbing the go and it's like aww Shit Bloomberg disguised like day. One what what am I going to do. Now when you go to these things something like blind base versus killed Wolf. It's very low budget and people attacking it for that kind of thing as I think issues is unconcerned. Like it's it's not it's hitting our navy do look at their style man films that he was making the the big scillies spectacle and also also just the the roots that sort of stuff has to Grand Guignol as well where it's not necessarily presented as a reality that's more about the impact of the effect of it that it has on you and I think if people are like you know it's like classic thing rich people go it doesn't look real ask grew reality. It's interesting this ADS for so much more complication. Because you do end up going to deaker that. Is it a fake beard. How long past what's going on here is that is the fake monk as well as pretending dive 'cause whether the monks like sleeping with the stewards Mrs as well and it's just like there's all sorts of corruption eruptions misdeeds going on that you really don't have any idea of who is being her or in relation to an just again like I said displaces places you so much that you can never settle comfortably into the film? I mean that in a good way in a very good way. Yeah the introduction of the guy who will end up Being the detective later on. It's like okay. Well who is this guy and why are they spending so much time introducing this character that he comes out and you know Oh that was me who is tending the fire. Who made the fire for the girl who almost got attacked by snakes? I love that He. He's actually early true. Good guy the entire thing. And he's the doggiest August character in the whole thing like a city all that dude's up to no good ways. Everybody else you like. What's going on what's going but he's like not now he's up to something? Yeah there's a moment in here where someone in an attic in. They're putting poison down of thread read into somebody's mouth point blank. Thank you couldn't remember where I'd say that. Yeah it's it's it's the hit. The junkies stops up. In Grosse Pointe Blank. I mean I've seen other ones where it's like. Oh here's a spider that's going to show up or snake or something something but yeah I was just like where have I seen this poison down a thread before. So thank you I appreciate that. Yeah because we have to get rid of the wife wife in order for him to finally be with the his one true love who ends up being his sister. So maybe this is an influence on George Lucas as well. You know it's it's funny. You should say that because I didn't like it was a bit cantinas. Seen like when they go to the island it actually has quite a bit in common with star. Wars is when you think about it. Because you've got this little isolated character who doesn't really know where he's coming from and he wants to sit out into the big wide universe to to find himself wolf and just so happens to be the son of this really horrible I. Yeah Yeah Yeah. There's a surprising commonalities ladies again. It's funny even though the masseuse the blind masseuse who is another kind of stock character of the blind masseuses were common in Japan also is going to be when we talk about the blind beast. Next week we're going to talk about that but she's describing the father's hands as being webbed and I see the father and I've see him over and over again in this movie and it isn't until towards the end of the movie where I'm like. Oh look at its hands. It's like I don't know why I'm so captivated captivated by his hair and by his movements that I didn't even notice that his hands are fucked up. I didn't either. I mean until the like you said until the end I totally was not because everything else so interesting is hair his face. What he's doing the whole time? It's the hands are the least interesting part of what's happening in his just general aura. And he's got that amazing voice to he. Sounds like Lord with pseudo from the lone wolf and cub movies has got that real bodo voice in the flashback sequence. Where you find out of origin story you do see? He's hands on. They are other than having webbing. They are normal so when he is on the island he's Kanza covered in caked in this kind of white plaster Oeste so that's clearly some sort of affect tation that he is put on to hide. He's deformity but the the voice over this he's quite often out of sync. which again is I- makes perfect sense? When you find out let's earlier about Issues tendency to cheat quake that he was quite happy to go back in fixings with ideology and such. And so I think that there's there's quite a bit of Eddie are on On on Joe grow at but again with the out of his thing it doesn't take away from it like if you notice that they are at a sink is it just makes him seem even more other worldly and disconnected from. What's what's happening and I wonder too if it was helping the performance because he is a dancer? He's not an actor. Yeah he needed. He appeared in a number of films voice. She and he there. There's a couple of experimental films that he was involved in but neither he definitely was this is I think he's sort of lead. escarole roll a lead role but who really doesn't even show up until like fifty minutes into this movie. When they finally go to the island gene the island has been looming large? I mean it's there in the background of so many of the shots and it just like okay. When are they going to find the to the island and when they do to your point from earlier earlier it does not disappoint because it is just a feast for all the senses and is just amazing to see just the insanity entity that happens here? I mean the women that are all painted silver the guy who spinning the torches and everything just one thing after another after another and and in the story I like it that whole idea to call a panorama island because of this Like an old time type of thing called a panorama where you'd go into a room and it would seem like the room was much wider longer than it was so we'd do a lot of recreation battles than it. Was this whole thing. It was kind kind of reminds me of this thing I went to when I was in Georgia once. But that's the where the stage Kinda spins around and your In the center and this one. It's more you walk in. I and everything is around you. The idea of what he does as he's creating this island which is all of these different areas where you walk in and it feels like you're walking for miles but it's actually only just a few feet that he's using optical illusions in order to trick your eyes and trick your mind. That's why it costs so darn much which money it isn't because he's making freaks. It's because of all of these optics that has to create on the island yeah interesting residences. 'CAUSE Tatsumi Jakarta one of the films that he was involved in. I can't remember the name of it but it was the early of Film produced in Astra Rama. I think it was cold. I think they've talked about in our video booklet and it was like five into law. The seventy millimeter projectors and Sir Jakata projected on like just the biggest began. I Max and a parent where wherever I read it. I said it's to this day. It's still the largest projection ever in history of film that connects with that obviously but also connects the ramp. Oh did right on cinema and he he wrote that it it terrified him. He didn't like it that he thought it was incredibly unnatural that it was a being thrust into a Gulliver's travels and just suddenly made to be small person in his land of giants with these monstrous faces towering over you beyond any kind of normalcy. Yeah like just sorry much with this this film connections to it that just overlaps in such fascinating wise I just saw and like I said rabbit hole. I can't even remember half away. I was reading. Anything goes sideways sideways into this and sideways into that. It's it's such a there's just so many fascinating into connections would issue in general at the other thing with them. This is sixty nine. And you know you're doing your month of sixty nine. That how much he really nailed the sense of halt and a cult leader as well and a window I. I was only in the last couple of weeks that I found out that she had made Japanese hell G COCO which depicted omission Rico and Kasha Harare the thumb. They laid out being the the group that committed the sarin Gas Attacks in Tokyo subway in the ninety s and that blew me away because juggle is very similar. Gotcha Gotcha Hara picture. I remember of his with that huge beard right. Yeah Yeah and and the ideology of it as well in the kind of madness of But obviously also sixty nine you've got Charles. Manson is a real Manson vibe going on here but also joins down like I had such touched johnstown vibes from the connor the island and the way that they were operating and he's kind of coq like leadership. It's a pretty consistent assistant theme through the she films I've seen of working around ideas of tyranny and Vega's Kaz and the kind of monstrosity that comes from tyranny and quite often the characters and not just in issues films but it also Rambo's works that these tyrannical figures grow from victimization Much like we were talking about earlier like the kind of thing the idea that they are victimized and that turns them into monsters and at I was thinking about that a lot because beginning that this was essentially band and not presented much because of its issues relating to the title mouse to man and Taboos relating to of that in Japanese culture and will wide. And you know you look at something like blind based and and the blind person as as a killer killer dwarf As kill and generally like in the West. We've become very sensitive to these representations of people who quotation marks talks although as being monsters and a danger to us and it feels a little bit like splitting hairs but as I dug into movies. Well he's films Looked at all the stuff the monstrosity. The monstrosity isn't there physicality. It's nothing there abnormality they difference difference. they disability. Isn't what makes monsters. It's the way society reacts to that is what makes them into what they They feel that they are ostracized. That they haven't been given the opportunities that they should have all that. Somebody outright just didn't care for them I mean we. In the beginning of Japanese hell One of the because that was a field Lewis a patched together from a couple of different films that he was trying to make we have a a couple of sayings of a young man who is killing a little girls and one little girl sees hands. Oh what is wrong with your hands and you don't really see like what's wrong with just says that they're paralyze possibly paralyzed and to the character. Serial killer says invoice He thinking you know my my parents. They didn't do anything about this. They didn't have the operation done to fix it. And so again we have this connection to parents. Failing linked to help their children or victimizing children or leading that children to feel like victimized by their parents and it's really consistent through quite a bit of it in inning blind bassist tillage wolf as well. It's like A. He says that he he you know He. He wasn't until he was victimized opted joining the CERCAS arcus that he decided he would only leave himself in school all the people. It's very important to be aware of that when you're watching it that she isn't he isn't indeed humanizing people he's dealing with characters who dehumanize people. I wonder if the circus themed comes from Rambo or if that comes more from east to the circus point and to to your point about you know tyranny in victimizing people. There's a lot of obviously Edgar Allan on Po influences here through Ramco Being a huge fan I see a lot of cormon influence through some of this just as far whereas I think a lot of the stuff like the stuff on the cliffs sympathy ocean waves hitting A lot of sort of towards the end where we get the screen's going in green and blue remind me a lot of mask of the red death in particular and that there with when we get into Prospero's Rose Castle there and we have see him being like sure. You can stay in my castle away from the plague but in order to do that you basically. I have to do whatever I want you to do to do. And I'll humiliate you. I'll make you act like an animal. Make you dress up these costumes and do these weird things offer my amusement and basically you get to live now. Your life is great but you're alive so be grateful for it. I guess and I get. There is a lot of that coming through to me on this and I think a lot of that again a cult aspect towards just this collection of people that set for whatever reason are sticking together. Be It because they don't have anywhere to go they don't you know they don't have any confidence in themselves. They don't have the ability or means to do anything for themselves so they stay and I think that you know having the main character he he does stay for a while. I mean he is told. You're going to stay here for a few months and you're GONNA basically for the rest of your life and you're going to be my doctor than he's not really trained but but he does some Operation Anyway and it turns out fine and I just I think that yeah I like to elect. Seeing the sort of Edgar Allan Poe meets cormon meets Japanese influence all sort of converging into this one piece of the issue films of saying this is definitely. He's Coleman Peru S. P. Film. He was definitely one of the much much like the the Italian director. The guy the the data that of of the films I've seen he painted to make films. That directly barred influences from the West that you know like. I said that he's woz reminded me very much of Gills Dustin that. She's first big. Hit was Obvious Hari. Sorry prison which was directly inspired by the defiant ones essentially kind of Japanese remake that became a huge hit. I've visited female email. Yakuza tail after watching was Malcolm Mana gain and that you watch that Neil like on his getty western like. It's it's Sir Western Spaghetti Western influenced enter. He was very comfortable in switching between these kind of you know the these different taking his specific interests in applying various genres to them doing very very successfully Much in the way that the Italian directors did I actually. I'd say possibly like far more more successfully than Italian directors because he tended to get a lot of the Italian directors didn't switch so successfully between different genres like Margarita was very much specialists gothics and and Lindsay was a bit more Crazy horror action allowing the macaroni war and Westerns and such whereas. Yeah he she could really switch between styles quite comfortably And pull it off very successfully sleep in the Arabia's whereas the alto goes to forget about El Toboso being a movie very much of two halves very much like this one because with that we we have after the gun fighter version of L. Tokyo than we have the free version of Alto Po and him there with the freaks and the whole Western western town and again the Colt and the whole light. You know all seeing eye and the the the the game of Russian Roulette and all that but the idea a of alto coming up from the underground with all of these fellow freaks says very similar to this idea of going to this freak island. But here's like El Toboso. I don't think he was manipulating the freaks like he and I I know that I'm using a really Hor- board of freaks. But that's the best way to describe. Bribe the folks that are in this especially the rice man and the goat people. He's not using them he he's one of them and in this one. It feels like the father is more using them and he's more amused by the freaks. I think that says a lot about the difference between the two cultures the time because this is the sixties counterculture the culture very much embraced the word freak and the you know the became part of the movement and became way to like identify. Why is not being the man whereas in the that never happened I dated to just today was not positive? Association with the word and Sir instated edited becoming The they just another group to be victimized and that is something that is very consistent In issues work is is abuse and victimization and also I remember was flesh. Peo- Female Yakuza Tale will maybe even bird's flesh peo- has Asylum being used as a place to illegally lock people up to get rid of the uh-huh and shifts them into slavery which we find out is that the women beginning in the prison our women who lured him with a jawbone then going to be sent off to the Aland and even that's fascinating that these these the what is meant to be a place of care and healing theoretically theoretically definitely not at that time for most in history is actually just another trap Is just not the place to be. Further abused destroyed and actually the B. B. mentioned. They did this torture cycle but they really are quite a few of them. You know Punishment is a consistent theme at The punishment Through so many of these films in our inferno of torture and shoguns joy of torture and this is very much sooner these these cycles you know the Japan Japanese cinema that time again. It's much like the Italians. They go through cycles like the pep plums and the gothics and the plate size and things like that and they would have their cycles. Lia Cruz feel the torch films and the you know the the tongue films and and all those kind of things things but lost lost weight during Venus infers this it wasn't just in Japan that there was just sort of explosion of interest in torture a cinema. Because I like mark of the devil of the you know the Spanish inquisition got bill which find a general I haven't watched it yet. But you know eighty eight eight films just put out the beaches. CINCI the Lucia full cheese film. which is deals directly with torture and religion one a lot of the Nazis plantation? tation films dealt with that as well I mean think about L. says she will foot the SS or like the Gestapo's orgy some of those movies. They just feel like they're kindred good spirits to some of these Joya torture films. Yeah I think that some some of the ratings are did I got the sense that the latter films As issues letter torture films while they were still pretty negatively regarded. They were very successful and they were allowed more because they dealt with historical auricle instances of torture and so that was whereas horizontal full. Men Is fantastical answer on grounded. And there's not really a justification vacation so it's almost like that exploit to six point thing of mom and dad feelings which like oh no this. Is this educational. Because you're learning about history. This is how they tortured people two hundred years ago and it's all fact base. I'm sure this is. This is GonNa take the whole class long to see it which actually that that Remorse Anti Nazis flotation I. I grew up in a country town with a large population of born again Christians and they showed food them mark of the devil. The Udo give started as a as a way. It'd be like this is what Satan does this evening. Leon you're sharing like twelve to six sixteen year olds this film which was probably banned in his trailer and was banned in many countries. Just because it's Taste of evil. Okay cool sure which copy and we do have to talk about this the end of this film with this whole and a poll thing. That's going on here because that has come up a couple times this month. Actually as we're talking about Chee Lay and now this film and just a few others that I'm always looking for themes and films and this one just as right there on the surface as far as him. Rescuing this girl from being part of a Siamese twin they just basically bound together by some cloth. It looks like it's going to surgery. He just had to click the cloth and it's fine uh-huh and going and meeting his mother and the Cave and just all I mean. There's so many things that are happening in this the movie as well But yeah that he ends up finding out that his sister is part of this This whole thing and that is mothers. They're around the island and that she had slept with this other guy. I mean it just goes on and you're right it's just this wonderful exposition dump and that's also where we get the. It's almost like the parlor seen in a mystery novel. But this one's taking place in a cave around a core where our detective reveals reveals himself and manages to unravel everything. It's sort of a casket Montilla door meets And then there were none when it gets to the island is that it is. It is episode and he'd have been in trouble like okay. We'll talk on here but it is quite linear for the most part and it is does keep long forward progression Russian. You know who's on the train journey your journey with him and the A sensational get muscles news about full five times now now is like you get to the island and suddenly the film turns into a balloon that is just filling up with blood. And it's just it just keeps filling up and filling out and you'll like holding this thing in your hands going. How much bigger is this GONNA get until it literally explored in the last five minutes and I? It's it's such a a weird way to like since upfield but that's the sense that I get like you wanted an does way itself self down like it's it but it doesn't it doesn't grind to a halt. It does this. Stop strange thing that it just blurts out suddenly in the law spot with his exposition and oldest flashbacks at all extra detail. But you're so on tenterhooks. Pain like after everything else that has happened. What could possibly happen next next and are only one of the greatest finales in cinema? I will happily say right now. I have to agree. Yeah make you you guys have anyone out there listening. If you get a chance to see these with a group of people who have not watched it do it do we. As soon as possible. Get Group of people over who having watched an just make them watch it because it is. I've done it twice with a crowd that had no idea what what is coming and the way that this film just throws them around that loss off now and then slaps them doubt the end. All the reaction of audiences is amazing. I know the Macci talks about this is screening in Italy that you'd like. It was a ten minute standing ovation at the end. And it's like I am one hundred simple Yvette that I would not be surprised because this this film just it just like the wants the fireworks going off and the body pods stopped flying at. Everything's everything's just like. That's the only way to finish this. And none of those euphemisms so people have that the fireworks literally leave lie along with the body bats which again I mean that is so true to the ending of the actual Rambo story though. It's just our main character and I love this whole idea of him. Becoming this human firework and that people don't even realize what's going on until they look in their covered with his blood that it's just become. This missed the blood that covers the island. It's just like wow what a way to go out. And I was so happy the detective when he finally reveals himself and just search the latest thing. Because we've already had the husband the father lay all of these things out and then the it's basically like here's one exposition and dump and now here's the detective to give even more and it just goes on and on and not I mean yeah I think that probably the last twenty minutes of this film is flashback to up to previous things that have happened. Just amazing I love the way. He uses color tinting as well that he that different flashbacks have different in California teams but then within flashbacks it does people interject and it does shift tints when they interject. At least one point I went to think. And then it's like daytime nighttime tinting and it just like all the way that you can just see issues just like a gain that playfulness like we can. We can do more with this. We can do more this. Just check can more than do this do that do that and just like yes. Yes you know what you you when you watch like an independent no budget film and they just like it's boring and he just like you can do stuff you could do anything you can do so much with cinema even with no money just a simple dots like that can just all to hell. You're engaging with the film and how how how you hold like senses a pressing up against it in this film never lets off never even even when it does suddenly and sort of grinder halls. It still kinda rubbing up against you going. Yeah you like this you like. This really reminds me of like Emperor Tomato Ketchup in the way that but Terry Alma would use the tinting of the black and white. Because I'm curious if this imagine that all the things that he showing us that are tinted. Were shot in black black and white and then tinted afterwards rather than some sort of color treatment of this seems like there'd be the smartest way to go. I would think so any kind of looks like that. That was the fat like that. It just looks like something that was added in post in given what you said previously about. How fast he was keen on making these movies as I think it was probably something he just wanted to add? In after the fact you're there is one that allowed moment when they talk about the circus and it cuts to the interior of the circus with the end. It's black and white Definitely stock footage. 'cause you can see the even on the restoration is damaged definitely footage by love the that kind of it it feeds into a sense of nostalgia that is like a guy. It's it's sort of Mrs with the time line is like oh you bring guys. I should be reading this as a flashback back. But it's occurring right now but then that idea of the circus doesn't really exist anymore even taking towards that period it didn't really so it gives see the sense of like like he's he's he's almost in his mind as he thinks circus and you get flashes images of this is what a circus means and and that's lacking what adds to that gun and is still gic fuel with the bit of grain on the damage the pre one. It's smart to that. The one son the that was supposed to be the doctor I think he was given to someone to take care of him. who was in the circus? Oh this whole idea of the sideshows and all those things really play into this as well also he would have been exposed to real quote unquote freaks in the circus. And then having that as your background going into medical school and then coming out if your father got us wish and being able to make freaks on the the island he would have something to draw upon in a Meta level the idea the con- of less Goswell plays into the whole girl genre of being a space way. You can go and let go of all your traditional aboard isn't boundaries and engage with taboos and beat someone else and do different things and then you know return to normal world leaving the carnival so there's definitely that aspect effect as well winner watched flesh. Pi was flush pugh is about sex trafficking and there's a great quote from that from one of the six traffic as a once. So woman goes strange. Anything can happen. I was like aw that that's such a great line. I feel like issues like it's either. 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Because it looks like it was shot on a camcorder but then as the phone goes on I managed to get really involved with that even though it does look incredibly cheap at times. I really liked this one. I didn't like it as much as you go. Go go go completely like all by God all by God I'm GonNa make so many people took our crew in the next six months but blood-based Will Yeah I really. I enjoyed it and I think it is it. It's more enjoyable if you come at it from the ITCHY perspective than from General Hora de videocon perspective. 'cause I can I can definitely. IB dislike It has a lot of things things that kind of reminded me of Ed. Wood is just quick. We've got some film. Let's just shoot something but it's if you watch it from that perspective and you've seen a couple of like like Japanese. Jalan you say Newton at hotmail phone men and thoughts that you can see this. Is Him doing it. It made me WanNa go and what which some Seon Sonos. Why don't you play in Hell because I feel like blind base versus killer? Wolf is basically the film but they make in. Why did did you play it out? And it's just like who got. Let's just feel the person who got this person who got the director of Tetsuro quick. Get Him in there. You know just like gets crazy already. Jason Bladder allergists like make the sets out of paper match day. It's like true gives a faulk. Let's go for it and just make something on the streets and that feels heels live and it's like yeah it's it's a terrible film and it doesn't matter one iota because it's just it is exactly you feel like they got exactly what they wanted out of it with a no budget with student actors and filmmakers and it just like it's trash tonal trash but it's like come on. He's seventy years old he he pulls off this. I've seen fab five worst films by skilled quotation marks skewed budgeted filmmakers from what I understand this was was. He was teaching a class in. This is students that were making this. And it's funny. There's a extra on the BLU ray re you see his students that I love the the the two kids the one who is dropping leaves and the other one knows just got aboard fanning it and stuff it does look so incredibly cheap. A lot of it reminded me almost like was that one shot of one cut of the dead or whatever just that that level of horror film making that's inside of the movie inside of there but yeah I like I said had I just after a while I was drawn into it and I was like okay. This movie looks like it. Costs Twenty Bucks bought him invested in it. Yeah as the lately and I was one of the other I counted classic figures from the sixties that issue reminded me of his Coffin Jar and at this one especially because adum the the way that the two navy they recreate the blind based sculpture warehouse of arms and things. It looked a lot like the vision of Hell from Coffin Joe's second film attack. Never remember the title which represents hell as this frozen landscape with old Lee's arms and legs jutting out of the ice and it looks almost exactly like that and at and at just it's it's especially watch. I watched it immediately out of watching Japanese Japanese. Hell which does literally represent hell. They made a great double d like they just felt like this kind of lead. icke like this feels feels like something that you might find a micro estee cod on the side of the street and go home and put an NBA like is this is two people die. He the ads got like Guinea pig level special effects at midnight. I'll take your soul. Copes is the one with the visit at midnight at our take us. Oil is the first one and this night I will possess your corpse is there has the representation of hell. They just sound so damn similar. Malar crazy did you get a chance to watch this one just. I unfortunately did not. I'm looking forward to two and I am looking forward to Japanese hell to that was another one that I was really La. Once I started looking into his filmography that was one that went straight to the top of the list. Oh Man I'm so glad I the there there. There is a copy can be found out there with English subtitles. All right perfect by them as a double and I'm really glad I did because a you can see like the drop in quality is significant like eat blind based Business Wolf makes Japanese hell looked like it had a massive massive massive massive budget as sort of pairing. If he's lost to like they don't. It doesn't feel like a culmination it doesn't feel like he's necessarily they try to re address. Things will make a point but if you nor will the things we've talked about like that playfulness net obsession with cinema but also that obsession with tyranny in the fact that he had made a few. That kinda predicted a lot of these colts. That would come about in the next forty years that watching these two together just it just feels like a really fascinating look at Japanese culture and Cinema Culture at the turn turn of the century and they just they just great i. I'm GonNa say like spent twenty years banging on a bad Kinsey Coup new and better overall and I love battle royale but as far as like very elderly Japanese directors making insane films in nineteen ninety nine. I am so much more behind Goku down I am behind better overall and I just made that because Juku is fucked. I made it because it's actually like it's I was looking at a letterbox and somebody describe it as being like play school. I don't know if that that it doesn't mean anything to you guys but like you know. It's not quite sesame street but a positive feel like a cage afternoon television per gram it was like. How can we make representations of Hell with what we've got at home with Plato and things like that and then attacking limbs and ripping off the day Chester Spurs Kahad screening at all but with this kind of like weirdly like remaking stuff and then just like lazy in the hellraiser sound check out of nowhere which is just like like we were saying with Stahl was over the horizontal men will then in forty years later? He did that himself. hellraiser soundtrack that works and it does it just like it piles in editor that we'd Icke feel and yet these two just like yeah. These are fine. I'm happy to have you seen the one thousand nine hundred sixty version of Jacobo. I haven't haven't that was noble. neca Gal I think and that's that one feels closer to the level of the coffin. Joe Stuff to me because I think it was four years before five years before but It's nuts as well. I highly recommend you try to do more with a plot in that one than The issue one. There isn't much of applauded the issue. It's it's actually quite surprising. How true to the emotion Shen recur this story it is A dozen try to and again I I think. Even though he's working in exploitation itchy she like doesn't like he doesn't feel exploitative and when you're dealing with it could been really easy to make that super exploitive exploitive and look I say this knowing that there's somebody out there going you fucking thinking may there is so much ripe and abuse and murder in that I know. Aw I watched terrible films all the time and I'm dead inside and I forget that these films have fought but the way that he you oh you presented it does it. It feels like there is a point behind it all on its shore and there's no maliciousness behind it again. At stead sort of the feeling feeling that exploitation had its heyday and run in the late. You know late sixties seventies with things like Nazis plantation indentation Asian You know all the sway -tations and some of them felt really malicious awful in mean-spirited but a lot of them didn't didn't a lot of them yes they have horrible horrible imagery in horrible acts being done but like we talked about with malformed men. which is you know? Probably I would say one of your more less exploitation exploitation movies Just as far as violence goes and visuals go but there is something to be said. There's something behind that exploitation. There is a theme behind it. You know intention behind it rather than I think Mike Mike. You said that at first when you were watching started watching that movie you tomorrow Look it was filmed on a camcorder and I know exactly exactly like the second year said that. I know exactly what you mean. Because I think a lot of the exploitation films that came out post nineties post 2000s kind of got rid of all of that any kind of seeming messaging and and reasoning behind their exploitation. And they just made films like the Guinea pig films which. I'm not a fan of That just feel mean-spirited and ugly and dirty just to be that way and I think that they sort of missed the point point of exploitation as a genre but yeah. I don't know I think that there's something to be said about that. That kind of exploitation from the seventies that it does have a lot of staying power sticking power. Because there's still something behind it. It's not all about the exploitation. US was a curious to I feel like horrors of malformed. Men is one of those films that I'm like. Oh Yeah it's not. Actually that messed up and then somebody normal watches known as what the Hell is wrong. You're talking about yeah. Because this kind of has a house who quality of it where it's a little bit absurd and surreal and fine and normal people be like what is this all xactly Immediately chucked on on Female Yakuza tail to get of contrast and like that is way more nasty in its violence birth sexual and Regular whatever General Violence A lot more colosseum messed up palatable. But it's it's no I think that that to me. That's that's the film that I'm more. Go like Oh is that the film's messed up. Because it's things like abuse and a very This gap is this stuff in female Yakuza. Tayo which you'll have. Oh aw they'd like these. Is this the with drug smuggling and where they hide the drugs in women and how they test and much they can hide lied in women that made me go. Oh my eyes watering right now. Yeah it's it's written by the same same. The same car writer as as horizontal men a lot of other also did on school of the holy based as well and so then watching that I was like okay. So sorry is it just the Like is only four years difference between the two and a was like did that four years. Because it was the the sixties and seventies was a highly accelerated period when it came to permissiveness in relation to sex and violence on screening. was that voyage enough time for take them to garner like oh we can do this now or was that issue new. That malformed men didn't need that in the woods tip too much whereas female Yakuza curtail having a female protagonist being quite a feminist film barring from Spaghetti Westerns which over quite hyper stylized violence. That data data Meant that he was willing to guard is places and serve following that up. I was like okay. I'll check them another film for the contrast and had sitting the ages Hands the razor sort of justice so I checked that on afterwards and then I would just like. Yuck Yuck Gawk and those who gardner hands are the riser is a detective film In which the detective is Very Mullen Win Heights corruption in is all about doing good except that he raped women constantly in order to interrogate them and get information inform them and of course all the women love it by the end Kasese paint Big Pavlova just watching just being like you could just feel it immediately. Light it just the difference in style and Tarn and it was like no this is just this is just. This is trash this Yok Jacques. This is this feels abusive and destructive and meaningless at was like it was. It was such a fascinating triple all to do. Because even the issue was going into places which would be considered far more taboo by a lot of people and cultures decisions as soon as he got the hands of the rise. It was like you could just feel it immediately. That difference in Tarn and everything and it was like no he. He was a weird one. And even when a kill a blind based Wolves up the win. The violence comes in. It's actually quite shocking. Because they quite restrained for the most part hot and it's I almost didn't think that he was going to go there and it it does save it up and use it appropriately instead instead of just like as you were saying jess these films that just kind of do away with the Manian just blast blood and Gore everywhere and it was like even even at the end he was still Geico to have that kind of hold and control and that's what game where come back to wondering what he was reading. kind of would subject matters were of interest him because I think that just like Jordan house-key in Lynch and all these elites new economic figures which women and I mean like look at coffin jar when Calvin Jerry came back can have my embodiment of evil in fifteen years ago and that film just as nasty and not particularly enjoyable and it is exactly that if this does not meaning behind just like how fucking nasty convey and a she even though he is tackling one of the most horrific ric groups in Japanese history and all this horrific stop in Japanese Hal and all of this nightmares things in five aces has gone wolf. It still deny it. Does it feels like he does actually have a purpose to it and that there is is that sense of data guy. The grand guignol where. There's a sense of fun to it that it's like we want to push the buttons but we want you to be wanting us to push your buttons. That's actually something really hard to pull off and pretty rare Sia off when I'm definitely please world release more issue films. We need more issued. What is that as as rights issues? That cause I mean you'd think synapse our code red or screen fact. I mean any of the Vinegar Syndrome will ever is done to in the last two years with orgies of Adar and mouthful men And they did one of their first batch. Watch was blind woman's curse which now well out of print on female Yakuza title It's actually the sequel to sex and fury They were released on DVD. As are they were available fairly readily Alec ten years ago but beyond that I think just. It's just one of those things where where he's just not really considered. I think it's a bit like a George. You obtain a directive is that a face where Very like like almost impossible to calculate how significant a director they are and how important and how much they helped shift and alter the our industries but they worked in a particular style and Strand of cinema. The just caused everyone to be like We don't WanNa talk about that and I think that's basically all it comes down to that it is a bit of a cultural cringe that it's like it's taken in a long time for France to come around to being on May be friends. You was over by as opposed ars debating. What are the most important filmmakers century He's he could ever remember reading about that that they were encyclopedia. French books that were encyclopedia's of films the would either not mentioned George Fangio at all or only mentioning passing ads house like Eyes without a face is equally as important as SEI card for that massive shift that happens in horror in fifty nine sixty seventy of these feelings and we just unbelievably beautifully constructed and so important and I think. ABC's the same you know that. He did work working on rose that he he didn't cross our Vata Mikey's Are Curious our kinda things he just he beamed he started off making these. He's trashing trashy prison films. He made trashy films he made trashy torture films. And it's like just when you think of if someone like Baba who was written off the so long as well as just being a exploitative horror filmmaker and trashy feel mica and it's taken until the last was ten fifteen years before like owner. Wait a minute. He's one of the greats. He's like up there. In the Pantheon and it can be screened cinematheque stall things alongside Ah Fellini without people going. What the and I think the Japan has just taken so much longer to get to that point in reading reading about the the the sugar erotic art that basically the that wasn't really still kind of looks down kept under wraps until early like the last thirty years and it's early in the last two years that this absolutely one of the most significant are op forms in Japanese culture because as you can see like the singles underlies like irregular anti and all these other forms that have really dominated in in a lot of the culture show? It's early in the last thirty years that they've started to talk about academically and stopped to Komo present them in museums to release books about them and these are important even though they are deviant obscene or whatever. They're they're important and I think issues that kind of thing where it's like. He's way down the list as far as Japanese culture guys. They're still the the people who are the gatekeepers because the Japanese culture I think is still you know they. They're still too busy discovering. Whoever made whatever the theatrical broad I don't Wanna I don't WanNa slag films I'm just really bored of art films? The season save these likely. The Japanese the sixty seventies is amazing across the board bought. When you get someone like Itchy and then you've got the the the that they just didn't have that breakout you know? It's something like horizontal full man. If it had had an international release I do think I think he would be a lot more well known but it just it just didn't happen and it was. He was very successful at higher. Me's feeding our abbas-ali take a massive hit that spoon. He made like I think ten of those fields in the series kept going and I remember the the lead actor in that he went onto an international Korean film started Kentucky Takura Yay now. He was in Black Rain Yakuza. Oh Mr Baseball with Tom. Selleck who could get. It's it's really. The only reason for it is that he joust was an actual legitimate outside a wieder. Who made legitimate meant outside a Weirdo films? And of course you know. Those people would often the most influential but often the most ignored until long long long way you know I love Shuji Toriyama and I think maybe fruits paradises available readily but nothing else. I mean even in the boxing movie that he made which would be pretty the. It was the most unusual movie for him compared to like. Throw away your books and mark the streets or whatever that was called Emperor Tomato Ketchup. I mean those things will probably never get a real legit release and there's just so many filmmakers from Japan where it's just like okay. That's great. I Love Chris Iowa. That's fantastic. But can I see spor Wakamatsu or you know any of the other. At filmmakers. I really want to to see more of these guys. And and more off the wall exploitation stuff forgotten about. I'm I was actually thinking NCUA Wakamatsu while watching these especially the The money made that was based on the Richard. Speck killings his. That's that's an interesting connection as well with the omission regard of using true crime to to look at Japanese culture examined sort of you know. The toxic ideology even made a Aramco Adaptation Caterpillar. Oh I have no. I haven't gotten that one. All right guys. We're GONNA take another break in play preview for next week. Show Mega Donald Sake. Ninos had a tunnel so they will show cover this about the moon caliban designing. I thought that yell at You Know Connie how do you attaching Keke deal each yoga corker. Should I not. Aw they won't they just. They taught us. You're she dined. CUT Vice Three on United Methodist so so stick by crew skit about Cruzi. Hold your local. You're not yeah That's where we'll be back next week with a look at another Edogawa. 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Feel-Good Habits | Dr Gemma Newman

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Feel-Good Habits | Dr Gemma Newman

"And i'm so delighted you're back on the full cost. Jemma how are you. I am very well. I am delighted to be back on the full cost for having me. It's talk to gemma neiman gp bestselling author and. You're not advocate of lifestyle medicine and your previous visit to the podcast was to talk about exactly that. We weighty took a deep dive into plant based diet which was so fascinating. And as you know something. I have incorporated into my own life and gleefully six. Thank you for your advice. But you're here this time to share your feel-good habits. I am and i really loved being invited. Talk about feel good habits. Because i love billing good. I'm sure most of us do and yeah. It's it's a lovely topic. i think. Hopefully one that can be really practical for people and help them in their life and their journey. So it's a really exciting one. Thank you and you know one of the things. I've noticed over. Europe during this particular series now is that there are very few habits but cost anything or much at all. Which i think is something. I didn't anticipate the beginning. But it's something that i find valuable in all of these in these conversations. I agree and there's something that i also feel when it comes to my patients. I don't work in an affluent area and they have a lot of struggles often financially or an also thinking about what food to buy and where they can go for green spaces and all things like that. But actually a lot of the things that i talk about with them. They don't have to cost a penny. And that's what makes it so powerful if you can kind of get into that mindset of understanding. What is it that really makes me feel good. You begin to see that. Actually you don't need to spend any money tool often in your gp. We're going on on a side note here. How important our habits and it is it. Something that you find. Is that sort of a free prescription. That goes along with a lot of your other. Prescriptions is like incorporate new new lifestyle habits. Oh absolutely habits are hugely important. And it's difficult to make new homes. So i think whenever i'm consulting with people i really tried to keep it so simple because if he can do one thing that already fits into your life that you can do attached to another habit that you already have and you can keep consistently doing that for a while and start to feel good about that. That's when you start to see incremental changes. I think unless someone is really desperate and they just want to do a complete one eighty and change everything about their life and sometimes that works and that works well for most of us. It doesn't work that way. And it's only by having daily habits that you can gradually get into and enjoy and feel great about that. You can continue so yeah. I think habits are crucial. It's about trying to build in habits. That are beneficial to you rather than habits. That might bring you down. I think i heard dr wrong. Chesney talk about this and it really resonated with me. He said something along the lines of you know people don't think that it would be really helpful if you make a cup of tea kettle and then just do five minutes of jumping jacks while you wait for the kettle to boil but they do recognize that if you are spending five minutes eating doughnuts every single day that that might make an impact on your health so i think it's about actually understanding how much the small things can matter so truce they where we beginning with your habits. Oh well i guess we should begin with feed. Because that's what i talk most about especially my burke. Interestingly i haven't done a chapter on mood food in my first book plant pow doctor. But i did do a little research around it and i've done presentations on it. And there's a lot of researchers suggest that consuming feeds that are healthy for your body can also impact your mental health. Basically through a number of mechanisms but one of the most sort of commonly talked about re in recent years is the effect on your microbiomes safe. You having fiber rich foods like fruits and vegetables whole grains and beans and lentils and chickpeas. They can have a beneficial effect on the microbes in your gut which can have a beneficial effect on your wellbeing for a number of different mechanisms. So that is an exciting one. Because those food certainly don't have to cost the earth but it's also about just enjoying food in general. I love you so much. I really enjoy it. I love connecting with people food. I love cooking food. And it's often about things like took memories or time with friends that make food so special so i think there's a number of ways in which food is a a great feel good habit and it's about finding foods that can make you feel good in your mind and your body and your so so true and it's actually a i mean we get into this but inflammation like a lot of processed food can cause inflammation which can actually like actually lower. Your mood. is that right yeah. It's it's interesting so there was some studies so there was a study that i read a while back on elderly. I think he was men in taiwan. Actually and they talked about how late rich foods had a a market effect on improving overall mood in this elderly population. And i thought it was to do with the amount of micronutrients in those foods. Conversely as you've rightly said there are foods the older processed foods that can induce excess inflammation in the body Either through having excess omega six fatty acid simply through other inflammatory mechanisms which can have an effect both on the gut and the brain. And i suppose really all systems of the body. But it's it's a difficult one because you also get that real dopamine hit from having a high salt high fat high sugar food and it's a difficult thing because that immediate rashes then is then sort of taken over with this crash. Much worse after that. And you know when you're feeling low is nobody which is for a player steamed broccoli so i think realistically speaking you have to understand that. There are a number of mechanisms to why we pick certain foods. And it's about recognizing the long term effect on health but also how to make healthier foods even more delicious so that we can start. Choose those even when we might be eating in a way. That is trying to come for us. I think there are so many amazing comfort foods that can also help you feel good perfume recipes for those in my book but to me. It's about combining that mental feel good with the physical feel-good. I'm going to geek out now and tell you one of my favorite feel good food discoveries which which is it was on jay woodfull's instagram stories. Actually right so was about using broccoli stalks. But i just take the whole broccoli. Not like the stems olivet for the little bit of sesame oil top and just roast them for half an hour. Oh my goodness they taste amazing right a better than stephen broccoli. Yeah i think that probably helps for sure and i love all roasted veggies. It's going to be said we are. I think also a cup of tea. I i realized because when when you invited me talk about my good habits. I thought what is it that makes me feel good and i love having a cup of tea. I just love it. It's strange thing underneath anyone else to set up. But you're gonna say something what we can do. I was gonna say i had to. I had to unlearn drinking tea with biscuits because for me. Basically t was just a delivery system for as many and i actually a few years ago had to learn how to have a cup of tea and enjoy that cup of tea and isolation and not thank research and now i agree with you of really wonderful cup of tea in the afternoon can be so lovely. So is your second yogurt have it. Well no. I've kind of added that to my food at falls is a bolt on. Because i realized that i mean i'm i love t all different types of tea in a different teams for different occasions and different tees for different times of day and different tees. For when you've just eaten to the evening. So i love an l. gray or sometimes i have a lady grey and then i've got this black rose tea which i really enjoy and as a french breakfast tea that i love and then later on in the day. I'll have a lemon and ginger. Might have a peppermint after heavy tune. And then i'll have room in the evening. And i love having different types of plant milk with my tea and some of the herbal ones i do. And it's just. It sounds ridiculous. As i'm saying out loud i get an awful lot of pleasure from my t- routines i agree with you. In fact very recently came to know about a pro range of t- from bronco mission and they have an. It's i love coffee. So first thing after i drink water in the morning i have some coffee but what i've they sent laid of teased. Which really kind of them. But what i really understood from them is the in a way that coffee tea come stimulate but it can relax. You can actually have a different team different times of the day to maximize how you need to fail so they can support your radio with them. They can support your energy levels. They can chillier out. And i have kind of recently found a new appreciation. Not because i think it can be sort of a little bit of a manipulator kind of help. You feel what you need to feel at certain time. Yeah it really can and also. I've been enjoying match in the morning and it's got it's got some components which is great for your immune health while which up really into recently so. Yeah it's it's one of my one of my go-to as i thought. I would just lump that into my feel better rituals. I'm you did thank you okay. So from food. where are we going to get. we're going to go to. We're gonna go to service now. Hear me out on this one. I realized on reflection that one of the main things that helps me feel good in my life is service to other people and that sounds really pious. Doesn't it sounds like oh we know you have to do good to feel good. But it's i genuinely think that's true. And i think that focusing on other people has brought me sense of purpose in my life but it's also taken the pressure off me because i feel. Maybe it's because i'm a leo. We'll see we're not supposed to necessarily study star signs as medics. But it's one of the things i've been interested in and we're supposed to be quite ego driven as a as a rule and a lot of doctors i've found have been quite ego driven. It's been no. I'm i'm right and i'm gonna tell people what to do and for me. I think ego is also at the root of feeling that you win. You're criticized you take it really personally because it's about you and it's about how you've come across and in a weird way presenting information or being in public. I i think having an ego can actually be a real double edged sword because it makes you feel really awful when people criticize you and put you down and if you're too strong in the ego it can really really affect you so for me letting go of that and thinking about service to others thinking about how my message will be received is not as useful just thinking about what i want to help people with because i realized then it's not about me i'm a sort of someone that's giving a message but it's not about me personally and that's the same for a lot of things in life. I think even nervous before presentation at work. Think about what you're giving to them rather than them looking at. You is really powerful because it takes away the nerves and it takes away that feeling of you know. Am i looking okay. I'm coming across okay. They judging me could. You don't have to think about any of that stuff. So i think yeah. I think getting rid of the ego as much as is practical. Obviously we all have an ego and it's important we. We need to have a certain sense of ego to even exist in this life on in this body on this planet but just remembering the the giving to other people is not only good for them. But good for you. It's something that's come up actually a few times in conversations about a again it would seem counter intuitive if one is trying to find a get a sense of self or perhaps feels that they are constantly giving too much to others and not nurturing themselves. It would seem that that wouldn't go hand in hand but actually it can be a part about picture of giving an it's about giving to others and being of service and others in a way that serves them but also you don't need validation but you know that you're doing a good thing and therefore it does help you. it's it's a fine sort of nuance thing isn't it. It is it. is i think. Many of many mums of two boys and a very busy life. And i think it before had children. I had no idea how much work it would take giving to other. Humans and i think as women we tend to other people i often. I mean that's a huge nation but a lot of women feel as exhausted because they're typing the people all the time and actually taking that minute for yourself is crucial in order to be able to keep looking after other people. But i think it's about holding those two trees together and understanding of course of our role is giving to others especially if you have elderly parents that you're looking after or growing family or you're a carer f- for another reason and it's going to be a lot going on for you but also just recognizing that in giving to others ultimately there is a lot of satisfaction and as long as you can be reassured that you've given to yourself. I in a way that makes you feel nourished then giving to others is one of the main things i think you can do to feel a sense of real purpose in life. I'm so lovely one. I like that very much. Okay where we maybe. Maybe what we can do in the show notes if there's any links to good causes people need volunteers or something like that. Because i think that some now that we can go out and volunteer again in a way that doesn't feel Well the restrictions lifted. Maybe that he's racist okay. Where are we going next so for habit number three. I think i wanted to say connection because for me connection is about so much is about connecting with myself connecting with people that i love connecting with my patients connecting with nature connecting with that greatest part of us that can hopefully lead us to make better decisions in life. And i think it's been really difficult during the pandemic to connect with the ones that we love physically. I i am somebody that loves physical touch. I loved to give hugs. I love to touch people on the hand. And i'm very touchy feely person. I know everybody's like that but for me that was one of the things that kept me sane home was being able to actually live in a house with my husband and my kids so that i could give them hugs and it's something that people really struggle with and so hopefully now as we move forward that physical touch aspect is something that people can really lean into more and feel great about being able to connect with people they love but also generally connecting to yourself greater self which is hard to do in the hustle bustle of the day. But i find it useful to do that through simple breathing techniques and i do breathing techniques every single morning which i can come onto in a minute but also connecting with nature because in a my messages is mainly about plant based nutrition and how it can be beneficial to our physical health but of course the health of our planet is something that's hugely important because without a healthy tanit. We can't have healthy humans. And i think one of the main ways that we can actually feel connected to that message is when we feel connected to nature when we can actually go into the forest and breathe in that forest air breathing those and sides which are the compounds that are created by plants and trees that help us to feel good. Look at look at nature wherever we are not the factors in nature and how they can interact with our brain and help us to feel good going to the beach hearing those ways crashing against the shoreline. Anything like that even going to the local park and just noticing the green and looking into the distance. These are ways in which we can help ourselves to feel good and connect with nature. Which helps it to connect to our highest self. So i mean. I think that's probably a really sort of wide reaching one one that i could talk each of the branches of the aca talk on for about half an hour but but essentially comes down to connection. Yeah i think is really interesting. With connection actually in terms of i was reading about cognitive hypnotherapy and forget what the percentage is but essentially the brain is in a trance like state. A lot of the time and i was watching Some youtube channel the watched walker. And i'll have to put the link in the show next because it's fascinating because essentially it's just somebody with a camera on walking through london anything. Oh that's going to be on the one hundred times with thousand times but you watch it and you realize all the things that you don't see when you're done because you're thinking about your life as a woman always thinking about my personal safety. I've always thinking about whether i'm on time and then you watch this. Knee realize all have never really noticed the lights on up shop frontage. But i've walked past thousand times. So i think the connection of going into nature is something i do as well and it is actually about stopping and looking and enjoying and appreciating and rather than just being in nature almost like making that conscious decision to actually enjoy it and actually notice. The smells is just noticing isn't it. it's noticing you. One hundred roy is noticing and i think that's something that we all go into nature or have a senate bath or whatever else is but we could also be very distracted and thinking one hundred other things so it comes down to stillness of the mind and sometimes that has to be a conscious choice because as humans. You know we're often thinking about other things especially as you said you know as a woman you might be thinking about your personal space and whether you're safe these other considerations but it's about having that conscious decision to notice to breathe to just be in the moment for that moment and it's actually led me to thinking about my dog. We have a lovely dog and she is so affectionate and he gives complete. Unconditional love and. Of course. I take her out to the woods. And that's the way of combining connection with nature with connection with another little sentient big. Who totally adores me. And so you know. It's another way of feeling good that Is is is really special and obviously not everybody's a dog person or or a pet owner but it's another way of also bringing microbiome into our homes Research shows that pets can be a great way of actually bringing in natural microbial components into the home and improving our immune health. So there's a number of ways in which that works as well and also doesn't petting an animal pet doesn't that lower blood pressure also reduce cortisol levels. I mean depending on if you love that particular type of animal. I suppose but yeah. It can't be powerful. So yeah that's that's i think connection is really important i think is you say connection with yourself. Even something like somebody else moon instagram. This morning have you. How did you learn to enjoy your company. And i think if you buy shutting out distractions and actually realizing that if i want to sit in to really appreciating that like noticing all i've got the freedom to be able to sit and do this now and it is get connections are really vital when i think. And it's something that you can get to ripe old age as. I did and never really have done it. Yeah and it's true what you said well about enjoying being with yourself i think being alone being lowlier two hugely different concept's and feeling as though you are enjoying who you are in fact this comes onto my one of my other habits for happiness but it's about understanding that you are worthy you are worthy of your own time and attention and enjoying that time by yourself is sometimes for some people. Especially those who are perhaps more used to getting their energy and fulfillment from the around which is natural so natural human thing but enjoying that time alone can be hugely hugely beneficial and it means that it gives you that moment to connect with your deepest self that that part of yourself that observes your thoughts and feelings as they pass through you and just becoming more comfortable with that. That's true did i. Did we Bring in naturally the next habit. Yeah so it was a lovely neat little segway. And that's because the next field habit is acceptance and what i mean by acceptance is thinking about all of the feelings and the thoughts that we have trying to accept them neither is bad or as good but just noticing them and accepting myself accepting events that happen around me accepting other people. I think all these things are really healthy if we're going to feel good in the long term and there's a huge amount to unpack in that because we often have act expectations of people around us. The people that we love. Sometimes we have really high expectations and they don't always fulfill them equally. We can have very high expectations of ourselves and the things that we want to achieve and we can comparisons to others and feel as they were lacking. And i think it's about accepting not only the all these things can happen but also just accepting that they do happen and realizing that it's all okay. That is all part of the human experience and if we can accept that then it also means that we can accept those around us when they let us down when tragedy strikes. We can come to a place of acceptance without necessarily getting stuck in the feelings of anger or regret or shame or whatever it is that we're feeling acknowledging that feeling but also using acceptance as a tool to move on her move through it. I think you talked about something that is really important is expectations and i think you can actually an i say this from personal experience. She couldn't make yourself unhappy if you have very high expectations of other people. That are unrealistic. Because you're not paying attention and actually the second year except what people are able to give you. What's within that capability it. It takes a huge pressure off. But also it removes that dissatisfaction. Because you're not expecting anything beyond what they're giving you exactly. And i think that's something that many of us naturally fall into it's again. It's human nature to expect people to think how we think and to feel how we feel but they don't i understand that when you're in an intimate relationship especially they can often be a mirror. They can hold up a mirror to you can't they. And all the things that you want or expect from a relationship and we'll things that you might have taken from your own parents and their relationship and it can all become very messy very quickly unless you take a step back and just accept where they are where they've come from their life experience what they feel and as well except you where you've come from what your life experiences and why is that. You feel the way that you feel. And i do think that that's probably one of the first steps towards at least understanding where conflict comes from And understanding that that's all part of again that human experience. That's a great one about conflict comes from. I think it's empathy. Isn't it trying to put yourself in the other person's shoes and just sort of white with butting heads. What am i not seeing what i appreciate about. Where they're coming from doesn't mean. I'm going to acquiesce and can see to that point of view. But what d-. What am i missing so that we can at least get to a point where we can have a rational conversation. Yeah it's true. And i think rational conversations are increasingly difficult especially in the age of social media where everything is just very much click bait and simple commentary and you know very black and white at times but is is in understanding the gray and accepting the black and all of the white and everything in between that we can actually come to a point of understanding. I'm not that doesn't mean as you say it doesn't mean accepting when things are unjust but at least understanding where why these things happen begin to through them because you caught me through it without understanding and nobody likes having a lecturer either. I've learned through my through my medical career. It it's really in a nobody likes to tell what to do. It's interesting. I was having this conversation with a friend the other day we were talking about. How in mainstream media especially forget social media but just a mainstream media. We are losing the art of debate because just shouting and human slightly show up the other person or minimize what they're saying well sort of semi humiliate bevan that we need. It would be great to have some mainstream media where you actually saw. What good rational fair reasonable debate where everyone shakes hands at the end. Looks like we need that. We really need that that. Respect that mutual respect for people that we disagree with. And hopefully i. I do think that podcasting is a great way of doing that. Is that lovely long phone conversation and perhaps even talking to someone that you may not originally necessarily have everything in common with but finding that common ground is that is a really great way of broadening. Everyone's horizons and hopefully we'll see more of that in the future. Here's hoping thing right. I to last one hour. I'm quite sad about it. Because i'm really enjoying these. But where are we up. Well we often shing on something a little bit unusual and okay so my fifth feel-good habit is something cool. The gakkai and i'll explain what that is how we spelling that first of all g. Kfi right you what it is. It's my morning and evening mantra right. So it's it's a phrase that i learned when i was learning how to do something jacobson ricky and without going into all the details of what that is is essentially an energetic healing modality which has some evidence base to help people to to to connect with energy within their bodies and use it for health and for fulfilling good and part of that process is as a practitioner is reminding yourself of the good guy and atlanta in japanese and i say every morning and every evening when i wake up and when i go to sleep and i also say before i do my ticket and reiki practice as it helps me to get into that right mindset and although it's not something that everybody else will no i'm happy to share it with you and what it means on this podcast but for those of you who are not practitioners. Or don't know don't plan to remember. Memorize it just know that you can also come up with a phrase or a self affirmation or list of values that make you feel good and remind yourself of those each morning and each evening as a way of generally helping you to remember who you are and what's important to you despite all the hustle bustle of the day. Or what's going on. It can just bring you back to you. And that's that's the crux of what this is. Okay so it's not. The guy doesn't stand for anything. It's just from a you have things that you've assigned to that word is a little bit like the mentor in transcendental meditation. It's a little bit like that but it's actually very specific so the gakkai is i'll tell you what is it goes like this kill daca wa it carina xin. Pi sooner con shush day go hit hitomi. Shins that sunni and japanese. Now you're gonna. I'm gonna have to apologize for my pronunciation because it may be one hundred percent correct but what it means is essentially. Do not worry. Do not be angry. Be grateful do you tease fully and be kind to all living things. So it's something. I learned which i had to memorize and it. It's it feels lovely to me to say it out loud even japanese because obviously i know the meaning now but often in other practices you'll learn specific text or you will learn a phrase and you may not always know what it means and sometimes you know even supposed to know what it means is just a way of emptying the mind but having that extra meaning behind is lovely for me and it's something that anybody can do without necessarily having to be that thing but they can apply that to their own lives and and say the things that are important to them each day and it will hopefully help them to make decisions that may be different compared to if they hadn't done it so minding me a little in terms of its intention hobo overall the fat perhaps at the serenity era yes yeah francis of assisi serenity prayer. It's lovely and it's it's a way of connecting with your greatest purpose and feeling good about your cell phone your role in the world and it feeds into gratitude if feeds into that question practice which is so important so important for feeling. Good noticing again noticing the stuff that that you feel incredibly grateful for even when things are tough even when you're struggling is about. It's about just having an awareness of that an helping that to sort of maybe three day i need. He's going to be good but gemma honestly they've they really have been wonderful and so as as i expected very gentle very kind and very very calm but with the intention of them having a big impact. Say thank you for sharing. Those really enjoyed them. Oh you're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it for me. To think about is well you another question because you mentioned earlier. You didn't write this in your book that just saying that there's another one away. Well there might be watch this space interview. Okay listeners. i will put them into everything that jim and i have discussed in the show notes links to go with the show is but i will find them and i will put them in. I would also hit the link to gemma social media and her book but for now thank you so much for coming back on the whole cost him. It's been so wonderful. It's my pleasure. Thank you for having me as always. Hi you've reached andrea. I'm not answering. Because i booked terp with travelocity. I'm with my family on the beach. Enjoying the perfect kids. Time to go to kids club. Oh my coconut. Water is getting more anyways. I can't talk right now. Because i'm late for my massage. I hope you also enjoy a trip day by. Seize your someday with travelocity find in boca trip. That fit your family today. The perfect vacation is calling travelocity.

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Episode 448: Florist Katie McClain of Tucsons Posh Petals; plus, our Stories of Resilience guest Mandy OShea of 3 Porch Farm

Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing

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Episode 448: Florist Katie McClain of Tucsons Posh Petals; plus, our Stories of Resilience guest Mandy OShea of 3 Porch Farm

"Hello again and welcome back to the slow flowers. Podcast with Deborah Princeton episode. Four hundred and forty eight. This is the weekly podcast about American flowers and the people who grow and to sign with them. It's all about making a conscious choice and I invite you to join the conversation and the creative community as we discuss the vital topics of saving our domestic flower farms and supporting a floral industry. That relies on a safe seasonal and local supply of flowers and foliage. This podcast is brought to you by slow. Flowers DOT com the free nationwide online directory to florist shops and students who decide with America grown flowers hand to the farms that grow those bullets. It's the conscious choice for buying and sending flowers and thank you to Florus Review magazine. I'm delighted to serve as contributing editor for slow flowers. Journal found in the pages of Florus review read our stories at Slow Flowers Journal. Dot Com our first sponsored. Thanks goes to new sponsor the gardeners workshop which offers a full curriculum of online education for flower farmers and farmer. Flores will share more in the future weeks but we want to give a shoutout and thanks this week to Lisa's ziglar of the gardeners workshop. Online education is more important this year than ever. And you'll want to check out the course. Offerings at the gardeners workshop dot com are featured guest. This week is Katie. Mclean of posh pedals. Based in Oro Valley outside Tucson Arizona just like last week's guest Abraham fell of flathead farm works Kadian. I record this interview in person on March fourteenth at Hitomi Gilliam's trends summit in Vancouver BC. Canada little did we know that business as usual and all our plans for the two thousand twenty growing and floral design season would be radically changed soon after. Katie and I traveled home the following day. I'm delighted to share our conversation with you and be sure to check out the show notes for episode four Forty Eight. At DEBORAH PRINTING DOT COM. But first our bonus series here on the so flowers podcast continues with our next installment of stories of resilience. I believe that now. More than ever. The message of sustainability and seasonal and locally available flowers is top of mind among consumers farmers and Florus. I want the slow flowers. Podcast to be a companion to those of you in isolation away from your physical community of peers neighbors customers and France. I don't have many answers but I do want to keep the lines of communication open on accessible. Today's stories of resilience guest posted one of the very first post that signal to me. That are times are changing. When on March fourteenth I noticed three Porch Farms. Instagram post offering free shipping of their flowers. They wrote in light of the current situation. We are shipping box of mixed blooms to your door. This is the first time we have offered this option. And we're excited to be able to bring y'all a little bit of bright sparkle. During this time of potential stress each box will contain. A mix of thirty five stems are blooming beauties for the price of sixty five dollars. You can expect approximately seven to eight tulips. Twenty two twenty two puppies even a few of the Big Italian varieties and seven to eight. Daffodils maybe even a few ridiculous at an enemies thrown in there too and then there was a note the set our first succession of ridiculous is on the way out while our next batch isn't quite ready yet but what I can promise is that they will all brighten your day. We will begin shipping this Monday. With first come first serve. We hope to ship through throughout the week assuming shipping continues. But we can never think y'all enough for the love and support you constantly at extend our way really and truly this farm only works because of your kindness and belief in what we are doing over here sending you all so much love happiness and excellent health. I loved reading that and I reached out to three porch to learn more and ever since Mandy. I have been juggling our schedules in order to record this conversation based in comber Georgia Mandy and Steve. O'shea our past guests to this podcast. So I'll share the link to our two thousand sixteen interview for you to go back and listen to. Here's a bit more about Mandy. O'shea she graduated from Uga with a degree in horticulture. During that time she began working with the local sustainable farmer and selling their goods at the big city bread farmers market and other local venues. She has been hooked ever since her love for the farm and the farm life took her to California via the Woofer program where she learned to combine her love for horses and farming while in California. She also worked at the prestigious. Organic Olive Oil Company. Mcevoy ranch for multiple years helping to manage their seven Acre vegetable and cut flower gardens as well as doing daily flower arrangements to beautify the ranch the San Francisco Ferry building store and for frequent events after missing her home state for too long Mandy and Steve packed up their dogs and beehives and headed eastbound and down to begin their new farming endeavor in Georgia. They are passionate about bringing beauty blooms and good food to the local folks. Three Porch farm is a certified naturally grown farm which adheres to the same standards as USDA organic. Stephen Mundy's commitment to sustainable farming goes far beyond that. All five of the farms vehicles. Run on waste vegetable oil recycled from restaurants in Athens since two thousand twelve three porch farm entirely solar powered the program is ever-evolving with more than thirty six kilowatts of solar panels that provides enough electricity to supply the needs of the entire farm. Plus the O'Shea House as still quite a bit extra feedback into the grid with planet before profit as their operating principle Mandy and Steve School is to be carbon neutral and to use the farm as an opportunity to put best ethics into practice. The farmers lush with strawberries and blueberries supplying customers at the Athens farmers market and Freedom Farmers Market. Which is in Atlanta on Saturdays? Each year's love for growing and designing with flowers expands three porch farm has hundreds of Rose Bushes and peonies thousands of dollars. Oculus and a myriad of other varieties for every season as they explain on three porch farm's website. We have the good fortune of living on an amazing farm with a little under nine acres of gorgeous landscaping constantly in bloom and filled with wildlife. It is our great pleasure to spend our years working together to bring something positive to an already wonderful community. Let's jump right in and hear from Mandy as we discuss in real time and where the future is going for three porch farm he tipper printing back with our next installment of stories of resilience tra- featuring here on the slow flowers podcast during this uncertain and crazy and Just weird new normal time and I am so thrilled that Mandy O'Shea of three porch farm agreed to jump on the line with because there's a lot on her plate as you can imagine hi Mandy. Hi thanks for joining me as I was telling you before we started recording the you you and Steve did some really interesting things very early on like two or three weeks ago that I saw on instagram and it really caught my attention and it's just taking us a while to connect to learn more. So can you start by just giving everyone a little snapshot of Three Porch farm where you are if they don't know who you are and what you're kind of focuses yes so We are a small flower farm. We do minimal fruit And comer Georgia outside of Athens Georgia. We do about three farmer's market every Saturday for most of the year Badu wholesale do weddings We have a crucial Tom. Cruise about seven people and Yeah mostly specialty cut flowers. Wow Yeah and you do have another business that the Puts you in the in the farmer florus category right? We move flower design and that originally was we did full design weddings. We did all the card did the DIY and each year. We kinda just going. We just kind of keep dropping different elements. That really didn't even know that. Well at this fall. We we've officially just going both buckets just focusing on the phone. The farming aspect. That's really where my passion is. So yeah yeah I mean you're you're so talented and gifted as a floral designer and you've gotten a lot of attention for your design work but sounds like in in your heart of hearts. You're doing that design work to promote the flowers growing. Yeah Yeah and it was. It was so nice to have that creative outlet during especially like times of stress and stuff of getting the going but now we're just really trying to focus not stretch ourselves so thin and weddings. They just did. Bring me a lot of stress on top of trying to maintain the farm. And so we're just trying to find that balance. Well what we want to talk about sustaining a flower farm. And I think you've got a lot of sort of immediate actionable items that you and Steve Just dove in to kind of implement especially so early in the season. But you were telling me that in Comber Georgia. You do have a pretty early harvest compared to other parts of the country. So maybe that gave you a little bit of a competitive edge for at least offering. Blooming Flowers You know local seasonal blooming flowers earlier When people are so hungry for them a what what crops you have are your first few crops that you're harvesting this year was the earliest harvest that we had gotten. We were in full blown. I don't kill a season and about January twenty fifth. Wow which is good and someone but you know stressful and other. Because we're really. We still do deal with you. Know freezes it can be seventy degrees for weeks and then suddenly you know we're slammed and it always seemed like market morning. That was gonna be you know freezing on market mornings so we'd have to even bring heaters and put into the trucks and you know and they just throw everything on the table right away. So you know. There's a lot of pros and cons with coming in early in the season but We get so hot so quick in the South Bat for us to to really have a healthy and abundant spring crop of the hours. We all love and you know want all throughout the year. We we just have to have that that earlier stars so you had what you would call. Maybe a normal for several weeks of the you know the season probably through February before The Corona virus scare kind of hit. Everybody right yeah. I think we thought we were. The first to drop out of markets market still did kind of go on. I think that was the first week in March. We made a decision that we weren't going. Our crew wasn't nervous. We were nervous We just had to make that call of not going forward and not pushing the market expects in the in the public sector kind of thing is is that are any of your markets still continuing because I know selling food is considered an essential Practice they are Athens farmers market? They had gone full fully online. We have this wonderful Csa program that's collective harvest and it was started by a few of the veggie farmers and it was a kind of a small group of farmers working together. But since this happened in our Athens market hadn't even started up yet They quickly shifted and made room for all of the farmers. And just really have provided wonderful hub for any. They probably have thirty growers on there now. Where going into the season. Maybe they were going to have like five growers keeping it kind of small but it really opened it up to everyone to join in on that and it has provided Athens community with all the fresh veggies. And it's also what we've seen from this. Is that so? Many people are now. Learning who they're farmer is because they aren't funded veggies at the market. I'm getting e mails and calls all the time. It's like who have veggies. I don't know anybody at the market. I don't know the market I've never gone. And and so it's just it's you know one of the silver linings and all of this is people really are truly looking at their backyard. Now as you know even know who my neighbor is I need them know where food where I can get food right now and then kind of Nice however we have not jumped in on that say I'm actually as you know you're taking care of my dad hit surgery and I'm kind of been coordinating with them. And so Steve is at the Farm Sola Right now. All of the things and for him the shipping was the best option so he didn't have to keep running into town an hour away. Our back sheriff. Specific orders could really kind of streamline what we could do given the parameters to that we had to work with. Well that's what we want to talk about is like how what kind of short and long term decisions you steve have had to make four Sustaining three porch farms. So this was about two or three weeks ago early on I saw you posted this luscious gorgeous photo of your poppies and said we'll ship these to you. Just give us your address and we'll buy X. amount and we'll cover the shipping. I don't know if you're still doing that. But that would sort of the I. I think that was the first actionable survival step that I saw any flower farmer. Take maybe in mid March yeah. Yeah it's definitely active survival Yes so we realized I mean I think we said we're canceling markets and then the Nixon was we have to figure out the shipping So we have dabbled in shipping. A little bit we ship our since he all up a little. Bit of smile. Axe In the summer months usually about may through October just depends on how long the crop last and so we've had a little bit experience but with those crops. It's they're so hardy and durable and we can just literally recommend a big box and tape them up and they can go to day freight whatever shipping and we don't we don't have to worry or they melting down. We know that they're just super sturdy so we had already had sort of shipping system. Set up for that which was really key and moving the sports fast. We had already been numbers pal flowers and I was going to ask our yes so they are that we get the deeply discounted shipping rates sprung without that deeply discounted shipping rate. There's like no way anybody would buy flowers. And there's just because it would cost more discerning than it would be worth it. Can I stop you and ask you about that for sex cal? Flowers is They've just come on board as a sponsor of this lefevre summit which is really exciting to me that they're starting to recognize the important resource Small farms are to this profession in this marketplace in terms of also being a source of products so roughly. What did you pay to join for this big sort of shipping organization? I heard it was about a thousand dollars a year. Is that right or I really have no idea. We've been Steve. That's usually job like I'm usually doing what Steve is doing what I do we shift like I mean he's it his neck like every four hours. He's just in so much pain. Have pains in my buttram sitting at the computer answering emails? And you know so it's been it's been kind of funny to see US flip flop. We have a lot more respect. Pretty tellers I'll get that information and put it in today's show notes for people so they can I think it's on a sliding scale as well. So maybe maybe I'm inflating the price but whatever it was there is that very base. They have different I just quickly looked at it. I did a Instagram's stories and kind of gave the whole spiel start to finish how shipped and I just did a little brief overview if their website and they have a lot of different membership levels and we are the basic basic membership level. So that must be allowed you to fed because by sending my lex which doesn't have to be hydrated on. You know two day shipping. That was a pretty low. Low cost Way To get product people. But now you've got this highly perishable product that you have to hydrate and you have to get to people more suddenly would net. Which is what you had to pivot to write it is. Yeah so we're overnight shipping We have a really good. Here's another tip. Have a really good relationship with your Fedex driver or whoever it is doing you're you're carrying service He comes to us last out of his route. So we're able to Redo put an ice pack in the flowers now And he also comes to us at like six PM when he is on his way to back to the office or whatever they build the building And so it's not sitting his truck all day because we have had some really warm days here. It's going straight there and then we're overnighting them so they'll be people's doorstep at noon the next day you know really like across the country at Super Bizarre. So what is your what is your. Are you saying? The bunch were single varieties. What are you offering people? We are offering a mix so we have. It's called like the farmer's choice mixed stems. We're not doing a mix bouquet where basically here's thirty five stems you can kind of count each week. It changes the recipe. But like this week. It's maybe twelve vernacular three butter flour nonetheless. Three to ten poppies sellable or Some kind of whatever's in season. We're not taking specific request This is very much a survival thing these so if things get too specific it really clogs the streaming the streamline system that he's developed in order to crank these things out and make it worthwhile for. I think just a mix. People are excited with the mix. We're telling folks you know cuts and from your yard and stick in there and create and we've just seen you know we've seen pictures of people who just they're totally content sticking them in their base and beautiful just as they are and then we've seen people just do these like JAL dropping arrangements with them and everyone just finds pleasure in in the most beautiful. I was just curious to know I would probably were your farmers market customers. Who wanted to get their hands on your flowers but now because of your reach through instagram. Who are you selling to? I'm sure there's you've got followers everywhere. I will say this has been such a rewarding experience and the fact that we actually know where our flowers are going right now and why they are being sent we you know the farmers market real here like this. Is Her baby shower. This is the my friend but we are getting my friends. Sheild just passed away and my mother is in isolation about herself. She's super depressed I'm a nurse. I'm super stressed out and needs something on the table. My friend's mother just passed away. It has been. I mean chills just talking about them and they keep doing these messages Steve and it just keeps him going. It's it's the most we have ever spent the impact of our flowers on peoples table. And Yeah I mean it has like pulled a lot of chemotherapy. People's just starting chemo. They're very nervous of of going. You know throughout all of this. They really they WANNA come back. They need the flowers are table. Our farmers market people. They're just really aching for some normalcy in their life. Having the flowers on their table each week just as giving them some comfort is really been powerful. It's really been such a highlight another sort of silver lining of all of. This is just being our efforts. And and really no inbred. They're going. They're really farm direct to the end consumer then. You're not necessarily selling to other to florist. Who want to just get bulk. Quantities are we had this week. Actually we listed. It's called the big old box of Nakhila very directly grape brandy. 'cause we're just like this is what this is and this is where we are right now. We don't have the release sweet like import talk tissue paper. It's like we have what we have. You know frankly making stickers and you know like Oh okay off. We're just that that's just where we all right right back to basics exactly yeah survival and I Dunno I forget. He wrote the big the big box against like it was going to. It's going to simplistic. Yeah we're trying to make that sensible to them too because they the markets are closed down in a New York markets. A lot of these big flower wholesalers. All over the country or shut down and so there are still some weddings. Happening are still some events happening and so people designers are reaching out from all over the country to desperate and while we can't do these specific color Palettes and even flower request right. Now we're like taking at least trying to offer you this. It's a decent price for what it is given the situation and the shipping. So we're trying to to help that a lot I mean as much as we can with it. You know so in terms of just the the even call it the mechanics of doing this. You've got a particular way that you've been able to wrap in package the flowers and the ice pack and get them out to people and is could this adapt to other crops As you move into summer we are also shifting a little bit focused on that you know right now we're about to be an peony season here shipping those. We also grow a ton of companion and that usually comes in for Easter and Mother's Day. A big crop. We rely on that. Somebody a little bit more singer. So we actually are GONNA send the box up to grace it that for a couple of As little pat this yeah. A little practice runs on that But we're even were reshaping what summer it's GonNa look like for us. We are not planting NYA. Were not planting. Cosmo's we have a whole field of cold flower or cold hardy annuals out there. I don't think they're gonNA ship. Well they might just be you know forged for the and stuff right now the best gear. we're getting our Libyan then as soon as possible right. We are actually for the first time going to you. Know a ton of Sunflower. Sue them the farm. And we usually don't grow sunflowers. So we're just really trying to just think about what we ship Versus what we're used to growing smart. It's been a whole like superman flip. And it's you know it's it's depressing on a lower level of the United. We plan for all of these things and you know all these see. We have all of these. These plants coming in But it's just we can't dwell on that about keeping us for the float and still being able to You know help our employees out financially while they're on break and just just pivoting. I mean I feel like anytime. We think we got something down. It's totally flip around. So it's this I don't know I guess eight year. This is our night season. This is probably the first time we haven't cried over. A big flip. We're getting Kinda used to it. There's no new normally. It's the new normal. Is that every single time. You think you've got it. Nailed to somebody moves the goalpost on you and you're like okay. Oh my gosh we have usually have a big plant sale and that's a huge fundraising event for us to. This was really the first year that we had seven of a full-time throughout the winter. And all of that. Kinda banks on having this big farm sale It was would have been last week and we have been a year. Just oh my gosh. We have so many plants and so many things and then really. That was a real bummer. And all but I kind of do that online too. And just do some safe local cup situations but Oh that's good so so mandy. You said you're doing some parental care giving right now. You're not even physically at the farm. Not We do think you'll be able to get back. I mean we're trying to be realistic about it and it just might be June so because I'm going to end up having my that's GonNa have to go through chemo and I want to be the one that takes him my mom faith year And also germ like I mean basically have my dad wrapped in a plastic bag you know. And plus it's our or yeah and we are you. Are you in Georgia somewhere else? I'm just maybe eighteen minutes from the farm. I'm just right right down the road you. Steve can't even see each other then coming over on the weekend on Sunday. Dinner Twenty feet away from each other the other night and it makes me. Has It left or anything either? But I'm just so like this is my priority right now. And it's just what he's being. He's a hundred percent and has been completely supportive of this is just. I know this is where I need to put my focus right now And that's kind of obvious to it. I just don't WanNa take any chances right now. So it's it's anchor extra. Yeah and it's sobering to hear this because these are the types of decisions that people in all over in the south ours community are being forced to force to decide your health and your you know your life versus selling a few stems and I know it sounds like horrible. It is a horrible decision to make but people are. You're finding a way and to keep some revenue coming in and out. I take a lot of encouragement. And especially how you've described the connections with your customers so thanks for sharing that that's just inspiring and I I WANNA hear more so we know. We know that we could really ramp up our sales if that was there. We know the potential that could be had if I was there to help out But but again from the very get go we had a meeting with our crew right off the bat before we made any decisions we all came together and everyone was on board. Everyone was supportive. Everyone is chomping at the bit. They know soon as a fades that they are ready to pounce. We're GONNA do it. We gotta do to sort of make it up. Best as we can but it's always been health. I on this and public safety. We don't our our markets. Do draw a lot of people and they come into the booth all at the same time that to me is like situation and I don't want to be any part of that absolutely. Wow well maybe thank you so much for joining me to just talk a little bit about what he's doing at three porch farm and I I'm going to order some flowers. Maybe what is the best day of the week to order? We are listing them at noon. Sharp on Saturday okay. And then usually Wednesday What Steve GonNa get the week under under himself We're tending to add a little bit more availability though I would have been doing this. People who've missed out on the orders from Saturday and just because I have the time and make it a nice little list and contacting them and letting them know an advil so your the case and has gotten so good a known for being the first communicators can't wait for an email to come in so Is it are the order the order through instagram. Or through your website. Her website on store and Yeah I've I've made a commitment to buy a flowers from a different farmer or you know collective every week until I run out of money. 'cause I wanna I wanna see what everyone's doing and I also want to share the love so I'll try to jump on on your website and do that on Saturday and I mentioned to I believe Sunny Meadows. It's now shipping To think wholesalers. And Yes yes yes. I'll try to get them on. Yeah awesome thank you so much and give Steve Our our love and our greeting and I will share some photos in the show notes so people can see what these flowers were talking about from this dynamic team at. I can't believe in your night here. That's really exciting. So kind of wild. Well thank you so much for always being there. Just didn't even these stories. The resilience is just so empowering appreciate you keeping going to take care bye-bye man despite all that is on her plate. I'm so glad that Mandy devoted a little bit of time to record this stories of resilience segment to share today. Check out our show notes to see photos and to find all three porch farms social places. I'll also share links to cal. Flowers the California Association of Flower Growers and Shippers which is the trade association that three porch farm joined to optimize a discounted Fedex shipping rates. I hope you can take one temper strategy from our conversation as you adapt and pivot your own floral enterprise. Best wishes to you. Both Stephen Mandy our next sponsor. Thank you goes to farmers of web farmers. Web Software makes it simple for flower farmers to streamline working with their buyers by lessening the administrative load and increasing efficiency farmers web helps your farm save time reduce errors and work with more buyers overall learn more at farmers web dot com. Okay let's jump right into my conversation. With Katie McLean of Kosh pedals. Posh pedals is a flower studio located in Sunny Oro Valley Arizona outside of Tucson Katie has been designing gorgeous floral art for weddings and special events for over thirteen years. She is a certified Arizona Master Florist and extremely knowledgeable when it comes to everything. Floral posh pedals is not your typical nine to five flower shop. Everything posh pedals. Designs is customer inspired by personal conversations with customers. The studio ask questions about the recipient about his or her color. Preferences Home Interior style. Aesthetic vibe and more typically posh pedals is available for daily deliveries special orders events and it's specialty weddings of all kinds in the current corona virus. Climate Katie has added an update on posh pedals website which reads from the studio to the porch. We are available for no contact. Delivery daily delivery orders from ten. Am TO TWO PM. Katie has shared photos of her design work from daily deliveries to Arizona. Desert inspired weddings. And I will share those in today's show notes at Deborah Printing Dot com also included links. So you can find and follow. Hosh pedals at their social. Let's get started. Welcome back to the slow flavors. Podcast with dip rinsing and I am so excited to be coming to you today from Vancouver British Columbia where I've been part of Hitomi. Gilliam's trend summit. And of course I. This is the second time I've calm. I walk in the door. I don't know who is really going to attend and I run into today's guests. Who didn't know she was going to be asked so hi. Katie McLean how are you? I'm very good thank you. It was such a joy to see you walk in the door. Yeah I lit up when I saw you to. You had to remind me how many times we've met while you meet a lot of people elderly and Katie owns posh pedals in the Tucson area but the actual tone is called oral valley right is correct rates so of course. I can't let you leave without sharing your story and there. There's a cool thing happening Arizona. So I don't know about Tucson. You're really south. We are hot so city your ass so give us a snapshot of posh pedals and what kind of business is a florist and kind of bring us paint us a picture of have your business so we started out mainly as a wedding and events and that is still the vast majority of what we do but being an oral valley. It's a great community and there was no real local florist up as far north as Tucson as we are in so we are also providing sort of the day to day floral things out of a floral studio so not your typical nine to five shop. I still like to kind of making all maintain all of the control over my life and so we always say that. We're kind of hard to track down sometimes but it's worth it and then when people find us. We know that we like them already. So how far outside of Tucson are you? We're about four miles north of the two boundary and probably about ten miles north of downtown. Okay so you're basically in a suburb kind of young. How big is your studio? I have about twenty five hundred. Wow but you may have occasional walk in but generally it's a working a working production studio so we're doing everything from From corsage is because there's a couple of local high schools and I have some kids attending high school so we they've gotten very good at making the corsage is yes and we do daily deliveries. So we'll we'll do at margin birthday and anything else that anybody would have a need for. We do get some drop in business and make some stuff on the fly and then the majority of our days are spent doing those corporate events weddings special events mirasol SPA Kinda high inspire. That's up near US. And we service their lobby and we do all of the daily deliveries for guests that are in house. And so we've we've really found a home that ended up being in a in a great area for kind of trifecta being able to diversify which I think in with everything that goes on in today's Unpredictable climate that it's great to be able to not just be doing one thing little harder to do. Lots of things but trying to find that balance is always tricky right. I mean just because you're capable and able to do it doesn't mean you always should but I'm sure everything is a case by case basis and it's really nice to be able to say yes or no I for me personally. Learning to say no is hard. I WanNa say yes to everything but part of that work life balance is learning to say no to the projects that don't make sense or Or figure out a way to make them doable right for everybody involved so something that's aesthetically pleasing for the client something that's on budget and something that's made in a way that so productive for us that that we can do it easily. So how do people find you? Are you very much focused on your online presence? And because it's kind of using the right images and the right hashtags or you know. I mean. We try to be really good at instagram. I'm not perfect or really even great at it but I'm I've recruited a little bit of help in that direction so that's good but We have a great online presence. We have great reviews. We really the the back phone for me personally in my business. I want everybody to be happy. I don't want anybody to ever get something. That they felt was not anything but great. And so if if anybody has a problem with anything we'RE FIXING. It rarely happens but we just want everybody if flowers make people happy and so just kind of no well. I asked about kind of like we can edit this but I just I had asked about like how to people find us. So how do people find it online? So Google and Yelp for the daily delivery staff and then really the the very best way if if if anyone's trying to get into this business and you want to be successful florist word of mouth. You have to have some boots on the ground you have to make human connections as much as we live in a digital world if if the people who run the venues or the planners or the other PE- The photographers. Anybody involved in the wedding. World doesn't have respect for. You doesn't have an affinity for you doesn't have kindness towards you. You're not going anywhere. You have to maintain those personal connections in a way. That's really authentic. Yeah and that's very important to me so is would you say more than fifty percent of your business is in the wedding and event space? Yes I'm probably about sixty forty sixty percent events in forty percent and that. I'm trying not to have that identity crisis because it used to be ninety five five and now it's sixty forty because we're servicing this market that it didn't have anyone to service and it's interesting but then I saw I resisted for a long time and this opportunity just sitting there and I saw I resisted it for a long time and have really kind of done at one eighty and be like embraced it and because it is kinda great. Hi How are Ya how can I help you make him really happy? And and I mean. Usually people are so happy. And I don't know this happens for everybody of Ritz. Because we really are doing a great job. The customer will 'cause I've never gotten anything this amazing How did you you knew? It was my fiftieth anniversary. Golden it so that so that it was the visit ways to make it personal so we don't currently offer online ordering we make people call us because we WANNA know how to make it amazing for them. We WanNa make it special and go the extra mile so that means basically every arrangement that goes out. The door is a custom piece correct. Yeah Yeah I don't have any P- remains we don't have. We don't have a cooler stocking with grandma and goes everything we do is is custom. Wow how would you describe your aesthetic especially being in Arizona? It's really good question especially being here and seeing other people's work and you're always just kind of like where we're box do I fit and honestly I think even on my website. It's still says like I don't believe in boxes I think maybe I have my own style. That is like I know that photographer said I know the planner said if they don't know it was my work and they show up on the job. They'll say to the bright. This is Katie and this is posh pedals and so that's kind of fun. I don't see my stuff even when I come to a conference like this fitting exactly into you know. It's not exactly like hollies. It's it's not exactly like Hitomi's it's not like the other floral associate people that I have here at my table and so I think it's It's I guess it's kind of me. It's a little asymmetric call. It's a little flow. It's not too much of any one thing I love to put were in Tucson. I love to add those desert touches. So yeah I feel like that's where you had the texture yes I love. Texture love depth. I Love Dimension and I've and I always work on a spectrum. I've never been like these. Are The you know everything is white and green or everything is yellow in peach in I take every nuance of color in between those two to bring the vivacity and the just deliciousness. Yeah I just love that. That's that's when they say that's Katie. Yeah I think my work with color is definitely one of the things that sets me apart. Well it's like a true reflection of the landscape. You're at two. Maybe just states flag has ever present and as it sets you never know what kind of colors you're going to get and that really just kind of opens up being able to. It's like playing with paint. You can just kind of make it any any combination he wanted to. We were reminiscing when we met a couple years ago. I think it was must have been two thousand eighteen at the team. Our Conference in Florida. Which was the first one and there. I was there as a gas so I didn't really know what is going to happen. But there was this component of designers a competition. Where signers were doing where you're doing a centerpiece or a hand tied a centerpiece a centerpiece and then to make it fun. We ask everyone to write a description of it and I got to kind of evaluate the disruptions because I was creative right. Yeah you reminded me about your okay. And I have a vivid memory of it. Because you brought like a small Punchier Pedal. Cactus in the arrangement. Did you bring that from home? I brought it for all my gosh. You kind of knew I just knew I wanted it to be mean and and I think I'm also very efficient. So what's the fastest easiest way for me to say or Zona bring a cactus and we use them a lot in our work? I think people especially if if somebody's ordering something for someone and their from the East Coast and they see that it's a little different. It's a little Tucson and that's it signals it. Yeah so. How do you add that though? I mean I know how to how to you know you have to use Tom because I know I gotta take a very like creative. A faux stem for an aquarium. But what do you do with asks is really similar? Oh sometimes it's a stake up through the candidates. There isn't a lot of tape and hang onto now but there's enough meat in there and I mean we kinda give it this shake test. Make sure it doesn't fall apart but also there's enough meat to just kind of stake it and you know people aren't typically playing with it and trying to get it out of there if they do they're gonNA find out. Yes yes it is real. Don't touch but I think I have a photo of that on my phone. Still and the language he wrote and I I can find that and use it in our show so far Just just to for a non back. Yeah so how did you end up in Tucson? And how did you end up with a posh battles? I don't know how old your businesses I have been doing floral for about. I always have to remember how my oldest child is. She's eighteen now which seems surreal And so I've been doing flowers for about seventeen years. I've had my own studio now for about fifteen. I've been in Tucson since two thousand and seven. My Grandmother owned a wedding reception center in Ogden. Utah eight years ago. And so what was that? Like a place where people would get married. And it was one of the receptions. I was one of the very first wedding reception centres kind of in the country because at that time people were still just doing their backyard or church and this allowed them to have like venue. The precursor to like a venue didn't go to hotels really so much. Then maybe in Beverly Hills or something but not in the middle of the country and now for your everyday Joe and how many years ago this was about eighty years that was very it was cutting edge. Turnley yeah and so. She would make the wedding cakes. Run the weddings and they. It was kind of a mansion house. And so they ran Weddings and receptions downstairs and they raised their seven children above stairs and so my mother learned how to make wedding cakes. Your mother grew up with that. My mother grew up in that so then I grew up with the mother who made wedding cakes and as my dad would get promoted and we would travel the country kind of following his job she would go to the country clubs and say I'm Janey try cake and then she went do their tanks. Because it's good cake and until you grew up with a grandmother and a mother who are entrepreneurs which is also kind of probably cutting edge. You're that time. Yeah I think. Definitely my mom being just having her own money not that. I really realized that as a child but she had her. She never was reliant on anyone. She could do what she wanted to do. And I am definitely the kind of person that wants to do what I WANNA do. And so I couldn't make cakes for my mother in love. Hurry couldn't work for her and love her so I got into flowers and she had written a book at the time and had really blown up in. Utah is kind of the premier person so we knew the Best Flores and I just kind of went to one one day and said Hey I think I think I should work for you and she said I think you should. She'd had a couple of children and needed a special events coordinator so jumped right into the weddings and special events for her company. And that's really how I learned. Sort of baptism by fire and then worked for her for a couple of years and then moved to Tucson. Do my own thing. Wow Wow that's so cool but always with little children have children yes. I got a one year old when you started. Yes so I have five now. The youngest oldest is eighteen. The youngest is four and it's wonderful chaos and that's really the best describe it. It's crazy are any of them interested in joining the becoming the fourth generation of a wedding person. And it'll be interesting to see so far. The youngest two girls are probably the most interested in my oldest is probably gonNA. She's GonNa do great things. I never worry about her. My son will become a welder. Probably and My My middle daughter is very interested in becoming a chef at two months to put around the shop. So we'll see it's got five because the first year not so interested in it well and that's cool. Yeah you don't want to force your children into anything. No and then they work in the shop. I mean I can send clover. Who's my seven year old into the cooler and say okay. I need the mini green hydrangea and the Delfina. And she can bring it to me and so they're you know they're learning so cool under eight well when we talked about your aesthetic and we talked a little bit about the cactus sort of makes me want to ask what is the. What is the sentiment of the couples that you're doing weddings for do they want an Arizona? Look for their weddings. We we kind of have to real sections Adam or groups of people Were destination Place and so if they're coming from New York specifically as a couple to have their wedding in Arizona. They definitely want to feel the desert. They want their ceremony by Soros. They want silencing cactus worked into their things they want some of those just real Arizona elements. And then there's people that have grown up their all their life. That are like an kind of sick of that. I wanted roses. I want something different. Yeah they want elegant or time. Listen so I feel like we just split down the middle you. It's good to have two categories. Keeps it more interesting and what to do and local weddings might be bigger year? Who knows people aren't going to have destination weddings as much. I definitely think that given you know when we got here. We were all definitely kind of feeling like it's going to be fine when we got here to transcend Wednesday. Yes I feel like every day we. It's it's my friend and I joked this morning. It's like the pain faces at the hospital. Right started out on the first smiley face. They are okay. We're okay and then we're like second smiley face this start hurdle and it just kind of progression and we're wondering if got a shot being wondering what face we're GONNA end on because it's just it's really going to change the landscaping think of how how we function for the next couple of years maybe smaller intimate things may be family and and I don't necessarily think that that's a bad thing. You also mentioned something like you have four weddings on deck as soon as you get home so so we. This is your wedding season. This is my wedding season in Tucson. We have kind of March April. May I call it a split season? October November not a lot happening in the summer we get an a monsoon season and so we get kind of this torrential rain in in July and August and every other day it will rain crazy. She's raised so don't feel not leading. Yeah not not so much you gotta shoot in between the rain and hope that it's not raining on your day and the temperature right. It's very hot so the temperature is the I like. People aren't doing it in one hundred ten degrees and then the rain through July and August. So it's a Nice Time. I take a break on vacation. What what are you seeing for your own practices with sourcing locally? Are you having to go to like nurseries to get the CACTUS and succulent or do you think the Resources California typically we? We've talked a lot about here. I was talking with us. Sue FROM PASSION. Flower sue about kind of concentric rains. I if you use what you have used what you can get close us just trying to be as kind to the environment as possible and part of that jet fuel you know I think more and more the conversation is do you want the specific thing if I have to get it from faraway and some people say yes I want it and we get it and some people say no. I'd rather use something local. I'd rather use something more sustainable so everyone's getting more educated in those choices are definitely becoming part of the conversation there are. There's a great grower in our by and they grow mushrooms all kind of your think. And they've started to grow some flowers during the there. A little farther northbound an hour and a half north of me. So we're getting more of the garden like your your staple sort of. I hate to see grow in your backyard. But just more of the annuals. Yes sunflowers. Zinnias is scabby. Oh said that was great. That was a fun. Little thing to have so I really mine passion. You know. We talked about how we're going to move into the future can. Yes yes yes and being able I have. I can't grow right now. I'm not growing right now. My Kids my kids are in school. My oldest is in high school. I can't stop what I'm doing and do a one eighty or take a left turn and so I what I can do is support local grow right and so I you know I will buy one hundred dollars worth of Zinnias from her a week. I may be only used fifty of those stems. I enjoy the rest but I have such a passion for supporting agriculture. Supporting people who are farmer. Flora's supporting anybody who's growing anything in the ground food and flowers. Yeah I just I want I want them to be successful and the one thing I can do right now is support that and so as somebody who can't buy it. I'm buying it. I'm going to use whatever I can use. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA buy as much as I can buy because that's the contribution I can make right now. Is there a wholesaler? In Tucson. Not In Tucson proper the closest phoenix. Wow our biggest. Wholesaler is may add You know and then there is. You know there's some of that buying direct from the farm and that's happening all over and then a lot of the other options are coming out of California. Because a lot of flour firming in the state of Arizona is up in Prescott and kind of north and that's not super easy for you know that's pretty far talking for five hours at that point and then You know I mean like seconds and cactus those we can get kind of locally Some of those do still come out of California but Arival as probably the closest. There's there's a gal down in Patagonia but that's still pretty far and she's able to. I think from what I understand Do more direct delivery of product so you said you're not farming now. Do you think you will farm the answer for the future? I think my passion really lies. In in farming my in grandfather farmed wheat and barley and ALFALFA. We raised cattle And I have had a passion for just the land for a very long time. I think my grandmother tried to talk me out of effing passion. She wanted to see me. Go do big things in somewhere else. I just am constantly drawn back to the land. We have we have a lot of animals. Now that's makes our life extra crazy but I just. I have a passion for agriculture. And I think I'll continue my education with that and I will I'd like to get some peonies in the ground I've got I've got land and I've got water and I'd like to get some in the ground and I've that will bridge that gap of time while might while the kids who want to stay in Arizona. Stay I don't know if I'll ever leave Arizona altogether but a- who knows what the future will hold on. I like what kind of anchorage do have I have about seventeen acres in in northern Utah. Wow Oh so in northern Utah You would grow their okay. You can't grow much in Arizona. I know how this is exciting now. Okay so it may be more radical than just throwing. If you've pennies on the ground now you might have to relocate. Yes my family so the ranch that we had this is this is land that that's coming to me through through the sacrifices that my grandma grandmother and grandfather bone right And so It's it's land that the right now. I have the opportunity to do something with and I just feel sort of that poll in that passion to do something with it of Satellite Mike. My data my my sister in northern Utah so we go back and forth quite a bit and We spend the summer up there. That's where we go and And so I feel like it would be a way to maybe you. Let's say the planet Acre Peonies wants to hurt nothing? It's a great. It's a great idea because it per perennials. In general are kind of like permaculture like once you plant them the yes you have the tend to them but they keep providing worst case scenario. I've are I'm outlining where I eventually will build a home. Best case scenario it becomes just a fully functional farm so I kind of have that that dream in that passion to do something like that. I kind of like a ten year plan. Yeah kind of and then I have I you know. I think I could build a barn. There could have a venue there. I I kind of feel bad. Poll from my grandmother's work. And I don't know where all and eventually I I'd but I've got a big ideas that's amazing. Oh my hope that happens for you. What is the drive from? Northern Utah to Tucson. It's a pretty big drugs about a fourteen hour drive. If you're if you're hustling. Yeah okay so I can see when you do go up there. You're staying for period of time. Yep around but we I mean. I'm really lucky that I have the ability to do that. We have sort of an ancestral farmhouse. That my brothers and sisters and I kind of all rotate through different seasons in that I get to visit my Dad. Get to visit my sister. My kids get to visit their cousins and I don't I'm not paying. I'm not shelling out for a guest house or something right and that's win. It's Bond Susan in Tucson. So you don't want to be down there anyway. Yeah there's nothing happened and so it's a great time to. It's also a great time for my kids to their feet in the grass. Yeah they can't do that in two common and so like we. We all run around barefoot. Wonderful Oh this has been so much fun up on all all of that. You're doing and Kind of multiple business models that. You're I just crazy I don't I don't I don't know that it would work. But my motto work for anybody else but it certainly working for me. I really enjoy being at the table with you yesterday when we were doing. Kind of the brainstorming on lifestyle trends and how those are influencing the floral industry. I think there's going to be. You had a lot of insights about just especially because you have teenagers. What does the future? Where's the future echo floor? Consumer one yeah you know that. That was a big conversation yesterday and I think it will be interesting to see. We kind of all talked about how their use of technology is affecting things how they're very visual culture and how they're just devouring put something on. Instagram. And it may be used to have a day or a few days of like being the image right now. It has tense so who knows where that will go. There just devouring visual content. Yeah yeah up here photography Game Lady. Yeah I guess I got well I just got you taking photos of the bouquet made with Holly Chapel. And so and it's stunning options photo of that share photos of your of. What else do we got a wedding? We have a damn workshops today in hand on staff at all share all the pictures. Oh that sounds Great Katie. Thank you so much. I'm really glad it was so good. Like I said it was a joy to see you walk in the door. Thanks so much for joining me today as we heard from both a flower farmer and florist in our slow flowers community. I don't know about you but things are sinking in this week that we are not in a temporary situation but rather a long-term one with no end on the horizon. Some days are better than others stays when I can do a little gardening for example like planting sweetpea seedlings gifted to me from my friend Laurien Edwards Faulkner one of our slow flowers summit twenty twenty speakers and then there are days when I can also arrange for contact free. Socially distance flower pickups from a nearby farm thanks to laughing goat farm and cloth for this week's delivery and then I have late afternoon. Mental health breaks to play with those local stems is so easy to feel overwhelmed and I know I have felt that way for a few weeks wondering how slow flowers can support our community. Last week we held our second virtual member meet up on April third. We had a great group in attendance. I thank you all for joining us. A special thank you to Missy Palo call of MRI Palkot photography and the Celtics Group for sharing her thirty days. Social Media. Planning tool. If you've missed that you can find that Lincoln. Today's show notes and thanks to Amelia Island of rooted farmers for walking through the new marketplace for flower farmers influence that rooted farmers has launched. Recently we do have a zoom replay video of the virtual meeting and you can find the link in today's shown outset Deborah printing dot com. Please join this week's slow. Flowers virtual meet up on Friday April tenth nine. Am Pacific noon Eastern. The Lincoln in today's show notes and also in our instagram profile. We will also share it on the slow flowers. Facebook page and in the sloth hours community on facebook. I can't wait to see you. There are very special guest. Is Holly Chapel of hope farm the chapel designers and Holly Hyder Chapel Flowers? Hollywood join us to talk about weddings bookings managing the rescheduling craziness and pivoting to a new reality. For wedding and event florist. Last week I announced updated plans for the fourth annual slow flowers summit scheduled for June. Twenty eighth thirtieth. In case you missed it. I announced that may fifteenth is the date when we will make a definitive decision whether to move forward with the original conference states or to reschedule them. We want to make sure you have forty five days. Notice to adjust your plants if we have to postpone and just in case Mark October. Twenty Six thousand twenty seventh as the back updates for gathering together at our beautiful venue the Feili Historic House and Garden in Woodside California as I said last week I'm eager as eager as you are to experience a fabulous conference one that's presented in a safe environment. I hope this plan is shirts you at assist you in managing your own schedule. Moving forward into twenty twenty. You can contact US anytime with questions. And I've added links to my email and that of our event managers Karen Thornton in today's show nuts. You can also follow the lowly visit page and the sulphur summit page for additional updates. Our final sponsor things today goes to the Association of Specialty Cut Flower Growers Formed in Nineteen Eighty Eight. Asc G was created to educate unite and support commercial. Cut Flower growers. Its mission is to help. Growers Produce High Quality Floral Material and to foster and promote the local availability of that product. Learn more at a S C F G DOT ORG. This little flowers. Podcast has been downloaded more than five hundred ninety four thousand times by listeners. Like you thank you for listening commenting and sharing it. Means so much as our movement gains more supporters and more passionate participants who believe in the importance of the American cut flower industry. The momentum is contagious. I know you feel it too. I value your support and invite you to show your thanks with a donation to support my ongoing advocacy education and outreach activities you can find the donate button in the column to the right at Deborah Printing Dot Com. I'm Deborah printing host and producer of the slow flowers. Podcast next week. You're invited to join me in putting more American grown flowers on the table. One Vase at a time. And if you like what you hear please consider logging onto itunes and posting listener review the content and opinions expressed. Here are either mine alone or those of my guests alone. Independent of any podcast sponsor or other person company for organization. The slow flowers podcast is engineered and edited by Andrew. Brennan learn more about his work at sound body movement dot com.

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S1 E1 Motivational Story of Dhing Express - Hima Das

Naye India ka Andaaz | Inspirational Stories - Podcast | KreedOn Sports

04:42 min | Last week

S1 E1 Motivational Story of Dhing Express - Hima Das

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O que fazer para evitar bolhas nos ps dos corredores?

Viajar correndo

07:46 min | 3 months ago

O que fazer para evitar bolhas nos ps dos corredores?

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Resenha: Arion - Vultures Die Alone (Symphonic Power Metal Finlands)

Metal Mantra Podcast

16:02 min | 3 months ago

Resenha: Arion - Vultures Die Alone (Symphonic Power Metal Finlands)

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The South Atlantic Anomaly

Everything Everywhere Daily

08:39 min | 2 months ago

The South Atlantic Anomaly

"For years people believe that there was a part of the atlantic ocean where ships and planes would disappear. They called it. The bermuda triangle it turns out that ships and planes didn't disappear there at any higher rate than they did anywhere else and it just wasn't a thing however researchers did find a place where the vessels which traveled into. It had a far higher rate of catastrophe. That area was in outer space. Learn more about the south atlantic anomaly. The spacecraft killing zone of outerspace on this episode of everything everywhere daily in this episode is sponsored by the travel photography academy. If you've listened to enough episodes of this podcast you'll notice that. I often interject places that i visited. That's because i spent over ten years of my life traveling around the world. Almost non stop during that time. I went from being a complete novice in photography to winning almost every major travel photography prize in north america. When i learned how to talk to do it the hard way it took years of time and lots of travel. That's why i created the travel photography academy so you can learn from me in much less time spending much less money. It's an online video. Course which i shot on location in france spain and the united states and i cover everything you need to improve your travel photography so if you want to take your photography to the next level and get better photos on your next trip. Visit travel photography academy dot com or click on the link in the show notes ever since sputnik was launched into earth orbit artificial satellite. We've had to deal with the issue of satellite failure. This isn't really mysterious phenomenon. Satellites require energy. And if they're battery-powered they'll eventually run out of power if they have solar panels they need batteries for when the satellite is on the dark side of the earth and batteries just like in your smartphone degrade performance over time. Space is also a very harsh environment. You have extremes in temperature exposure to a vacuum and you can collide with very small particles known as micro meteors at very high velocity which can do a lot of damage over time so when a satellite fails. It isn't totally unexpected. Whoever as we put more satellites into space and gathered more data a pattern began to appear a very puzzling pattern. A large number of satellites all experienced problems or failed in the same region above the earth. It didn't matter if it was dare night or where that part of the earth was pointed. Something was happening in that spot. That area was above south america. A large part of the southern atlantic ocean. It was dubbed the south atlantic anomaly or is it sometimes known the bermuda triangle of space just to give you an idea of some of the high profile problems which have occurred over the spot in two thousand sixteen. Japan's space agency lost their x ray. Astronomy satellite called. Hitomi over the anomaly. The system which orientated itself had problems when flying through the anomaly. And it's believed that instead of just rotating the satellite. When flying through the anomaly. It might have just spun itself to death in self-destructed in two thousand seven global which is a company with a fleet of voice and data. Satellites lost several satellites after the electronics on board degraded. Frequent trips through the anomaly. The recent space x dragon crew module suffered computer problems. When flying through the anomaly on its way to the international space station speaking of which the the space shuttle and skylab from the nineteen seventies all experienced computer electronic problems while over the south atlantic astronauts have recorded seeing white flashes of light before their eyes when travelling through this region. So what's happening. Is it some sort of rogue government shooting death rays into space and. I'm not saying aliens but it might be aliens. Actually the explanation for what's happening in the south atlantic anomaly can all be explained with science understanding. The anomaly starts with an understanding of the van allen belt. The van allen belt was discovered by its namesake. Dr james van allen at the university of iowa. The bell doesn't area of high radiation which surrounds the earth. An incredible number of charged. Energetic particles are shot at the earth from the sun. If you remember back to my episode explaining radiation radiation is nothing more than highly energetic subatomic particles and photons as the particles are sent towards the earth there deflected by the earth's magnetic field are magnetic field is what prevents most of the radiation in space from reaching the surface of the earth. If it didn't exist life on earth would look very different when these particles are deflected away by the magnetic field. They have to go somewhere and many of them wind up trapped in the van allen belt the discovery the belt was in nineteen fifty eight with the launch of the very first american satellites. The van allen belt extends from roughly six hundred and fifty to fifty eight thousand kilometers or four hundred thirty six thousand miles above the surface of earth for the most part. The belt is above the altitude. Where most low earth orbit satellites are positioned for example the iss orbits at an altitude of only two hundred fifty four miles above the earth. Okay so if this is a belt around the entire earth and it's located above where most of the spacecraft are. what's so special about the spot over the atlantic. Well as it turns out the magnetic field isn't perfectly smooth symmetric. The magnetic field is created by the iron in the liquid core of the earth. It's constantly moving and changing slowly over time. This is why the magnetic north and south poles are constantly changing every year. it turns out that the atlantic anomaly is basically a dimple in the earth's magnetic field in that spot the magnetic field is weaker than it is anywhere else on earth because the magnetic field is weaker. The van allen belt dips down to its lowest point at around two hundred kilometers or one hundred and twenty miles above the surface of the earth when satellites fly through that region. They're being exposed to far higher radiation than they are anywhere else in orbit and this is why computer equipment tends to fail when it flies through that region. The highly energetic particles can damage circuits and electronics causing their failure. It is also the explanation as to why astronauts would see flashing lights when they flew through the anomaly. The radiation was literally hitting their retinas causing. There is to see flashes of light. So what can be done about the anomaly. Well it depends on the spacecraft when the hubble space telescope flies through the nominally they just don't take any observations like ever the radiation recalls problems with the electronic sensor so they just never make any observations when they're in that region. It's actually something. They really have to pay close attention to. Because it's gonna fly through that anomaly. Several times a day other satellites either have to do the same thing in shut off some of their important electrical systems when they fly through or they need to design the satellite with extra shielding to protect themselves from the radiation s for humans. The best you can do is provide extra shielding which is what they've done on the international space station. The crew quarters and other places were astronauts. Spend most of their time. We'll have extra shielding to protect them. When they go through the anomaly. The anomaly itself is slowly changing. It's moving about twelve miles per year to the east and it might slowly be dividing into two separate anonymous or at least one with two large lobes. This is all due to changes. Deepen the earth corps which are then reflected in the magnetosphere up in space using paleo magnetic evidence. Geologists have determined that the anomaly has been there for at least a million years and it's very slowly getting weaker. In fact some speculate. The anomaly might be the first stage of the reversal of the earth's magnetic poles which happens approximately every four hundred and fifty thousand years. And we are well overdue. So there isn't a whole lot. You can actually do about nominally other than be aware of it and prepare for it. It's slowly changing but not so fast that it'll ever make a difference within our lifetimes so unlike the real bermuda triangle the one in space isn't really mystery and it can be explained by science associate producer of everything everywhere daily. Is thor thomsen. 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Episode 486: Slow Flowers 2020 Year in Review

Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing

25:12 min | 7 months ago

Episode 486: Slow Flowers 2020 Year in Review

"Hello again and welcome back to the slow flowers. Podcast with deborah princeton episode. Four hundred and eighty six. This is the weekly podcast about slow flowers and the people who grow and designed with them. It's all about making a conscious choice. And i invite you to join the conversation and the creative community as we discuss the vital topics of saving our domestic flower farms then supporting a floral industry that relies on a safe seasonal and local supply of flowers and foliage. This podcast is brought to you by slow. Flowers dot com the free online directory to florist shops and studios who designed with local seasonal and sustainable flowers and to the farms that grow those plumes. It's the conscious choice for buying and sending flowers. Welcome to the final episode of the slow flowers. Podcast for twenty. Twenty as i have done since the beginning of two thousand and fourteen. I'm turning the spotlight focus to our year of so flowers next week on january six upbringing you the annual report for our 2021 slow flowers fl insights and industry forecast last year at this time we celebrated a successful two thousand nineteen with more members more participation and more so flowers blooming in the marketplace speaking for myself there was a definite feeling of anticipation in the air as we turn the calendar to a new year and a new decade. We felt optimism and creative inspiration. We wanted to celebrate and embrace a progressive climate for local seasonal and sustainable flowers in agriculture and design and we could see on the horizon a floral climate where slow flowers increasingly took center stage. The year kicked off with an exciting opportunities to connect with members including speaking twice in oregon. I for the pacific northwest cut. Flower growers meet up in corvallis and next at the good earth home garden and living show in eugene. In late february. I returned to the fabulous northwest flower and garden festival to produce the floral stage for the third year in a row. I welcomed six hours members to teach sold out. Hands on. Floral design workshops called blooms and bubbles. We welcome the beautiful florida. Ville flora couture installation with eight of the fashions created by slow flowers members who showcase their talents and slow flower sponsored. Melissa feb. a tarabella flowers for her all domestic floral gown. I'll share the link for you to see all of this in today's show. Notes for episode for eighty-six deborah printing dot com also at the flower festival. I joined a panel presentation. Moderated by fellow podcasters jennifer jewel author of the new book. The earth her hands profiles of seventy five extraordinary women working in the world of plants as one of those profiled. Ps you can hear that full conversation moderated by jennifer in episode four forty three and i'll also share a link with you a few weeks later. In mid march the reality of the covid nineteen pandemic began to sink in hose in vancouver bc at hitomi gillingham's trend to summit. And at the time. I had no idea it would be my last in-person opportunity to speak to a floral audience this year. Here we are nine months into it. And we've all been beaten into the acceptance of the new norms required to fight the pandemic keep ourselves other safe from infection and use our energy and resources to hang on to our livelihoods in response. We found ways to stay connected. This year i sought invited you to share your personal stories of resilience for our slow flowers. Podcast virtual member meet up learning. How you personally tackled and creatively address. Such huge challenges has been a major source of inspiration to me and others and similarly our definition of thriving has greatly changed month by month. We forced ahead. We forged ahead through the pandemic through a racial justice awakening through the increasing threat of climate. Change we looked in the mirror and ask ourselves. Are we doing enough to walk the talk. Are we communicating our values through our actions. We also found a nurtured community in new ways. We spent more time at home than ever before we reevaluated. What's truly important and in doing so. I believe we have gotten stronger in late october. I gathered with. Karen thornton our operations membership and events manager. We sat at either end of a huge conference table and then we rejoined via zoom by nisha block of our social media manager. And becky's be our new slow flowers. Canada associate for our 2021 planning retreat. We started the day discussing the year in review. You know that exercise was so affirming. It was so valuable to not only itemize. The accomplishments i felt were important but to hear from my colleagues about the highlights that excited them and we came up with a pretty amazing list. It is essential to stop and take stock in the year. That's coming to a close this year. it's especially important. I'd like to walk you through our list and invite you to join me and celebrating. What the entire so flowers community has accomplished together. I the slow flowers summit. The fourth annual slow flowers summit scheduled for june twenty eighth through thirtieth twenty twenty was skipping right along on schedule and more ambitious than ever by march two thousand twenty. We had strong ticket sales with registrations exceeding previous years and on track to reach a hundred and fifty attendees. We had strong sponsor support with more partners joining us than ever and we had an amazing lineup of floral experiences and education for attendees to enjoy to enjoy time with each other immersed in local flowers and engaging terrific speakers oh and did i mention our venue yes. We pinched ourselves whenever we thought about it. Fi lowly historic house and garden in woodside california of san francisco. Well as san francisco than the rest of the bay area. In the entire state of california began to shut down and limit public gatherings close contact with the filing leadership to assess are many options ultimately after considering moving the summit. Too late fall of this year we made the decision in mid-may to reschedule the entire conference to the exact same dates for two thousand twenty one. Last week i sent out an email to our registrants members and followers with a summit update share leaked to that report in today's show notes. If you're interested in seeing it the top items of note we are moving forward with the conference into 2021 we know for certain that vilely is taking the utmost precaution in making it safe for guests to visit their grounds despite ever changing policies for public gatherings in their county and state for the summit specifically we're shifting plans to have an all outdoors conference made possible by filali's incredible gardens and infrastructure such as an outdoor meeting space where seating a socially distanced an outdoor stage and boosted wifi among other logistics. Being attended to as well as all accommodations for outdoor catering and services. The other. big news is that we've invited to additional speakers to join our expanded educational program out already amazing lineup of speakers that means author and speaker of conquer the soil and floral designer. Max skill will be part of the program when we all gather june twenty eighth through thirtieth twenty twenty one. I truly cannot wait on the topic of member and social media. Communications the talents of our social media manager. Nisha blocks of fetching social. Our engagement has hit ninety. Eight million impressions for slow flowers with a thirteen million reach in two thousand twenty one of the most meaningful things nisha has done and this requires a serious investment of time is to find ways to highlight as many members as possible by showcasing your flowers and designs in our social media posts and stories. I am in all of the attention to detail that nisha brings to this effort. For example each month we highlight new and renewing members usually forty to fifty of you and that means nisha dig deep into your social media feeds websites to find just the right photograph to represent you and your brand. We just surpassed thirty thousand instagram. There's all organic growth. Thanks to the time and attention. The nisha takes to showcase engage with you by the way. Have you noticed how cool the graphics are looking on instagram facebook stories. It's all nisha. She's become a canvas pro elevating the way we're communicating all things slow flowers with our members and followers thinks to karen and nisha coordination were more intentional than ever about consistent and cohesive branding and visuals and if you're not receiving the slow flowers monthly newsletter. Please check your spam folder and add are sending address to your approved contacts. That would be deborah at slow. Flowers dot com. If you don't see this beautiful in an information pack newsletter each. you're missing out. On all the opportunities to engage as a member next virtual meetups at the end of march i upgraded our zuma count to accommodate longer meetings and a larger group of participants. It felt like a desperate act at the time. We just had to do something right like you. I was in a bit of a fog and trying to figure out how to navigate. The new covid landscape running afl enterprise that zoom tool allowed us to host the first virtual member meet up on friday march twenty seventh with more than sixty of you in attendance. We attempted to give everyone a chance to say. Hello and check in with our community. As karen nisha and lisa awad who helped us with membership for the first half of twenty twenty and i learned more about virtual meetings and as we heard from you about the state of your floral enterprises. We continue to improve and refine those meetings. We met weekly as a community. Each friday through the end of may we hosted a series of guests from members who shared their strategies for contact free deliveries and product sourcing to outside experts on wellness. Mindfulness and we dabbled with breakout rooms. Which is more manageable for smaller groups to converse and connect after eight weekly meet ups by the beginning of june. We shifted to monthly sessions to date. There have been seven monthly meet ups attracting more than three hundred and fifty members. You seem to love our floral design demos and crop specific topics as well as our speakers are giveaways and the important lifeline to connect with kindred spirits. Most of the meet ups were recorded. You can find the playback videos on youtube where there have been hundreds of additional views reaching those who couldn't attend in real time. The virtual meet will continue into twenty twenty one. Our first of the year is scheduled for friday january eighth so stay tuned for more details in the january newsletter and on social media. I hope to see you there. American flowers week american flowers week. June twenty eighth to july fourth took place against the covid backdrop. You are not deterred in participating. We showcase five beautiful botanical couture. Fashion looks for twenty twenty featuring orchids from hawaii peonies from alaska local flora from south dakota dahlia from washington state and annuals from maine floors review published the photography of these incredible creative floral stylings in the june issue. And we picked up some local press interested in telling the story of locally grown flowers in their markets several of you joined the momentum led by lisa wad to use local flowers for public installations in their communities milwaukee and detroit to portland maine with the goal of raising awareness supporting flower farms and celebrating beauty at a time when everyone so needed it. Plans are already underway for twenty twenty one and we have just unveiled our new branding by illustrator. genetic gonzales. so check that out and please save the dates. I'll have links in our shonno's during june twenty eighth of july four. Th this coming year we will be celebrating our seventh annual american flowers we campaign you can order your bouquet labels anytime in our slow flowers mercantile shop find the lincoln today's show notes or visit sloth our society dot com to find the mercantile link. And you're the first. Here are big american flowers week announcement with our media partner florist review. We've agreed to do an editorial takeover of flores reviews june twenty twenty one issue with me as guest editor not only will that issued devoted to the american flowers we botanical mature looks created by our member farmers and floors but we'll have plenty of space to tell more stories about this beautiful sloth hours movement and share them with the magazines larger floral audience so stay tuned membership. We had excellent growth in slow flower society membership for twenty twenty truly inspiring and an indication that more flower farmers and floral designers want to align with our mission and values way to communicate their brand identity to customers. We began twenty twenty with just over six hundred members and we are wrapping up the year with eight hundred and thirteen members. That's thirty percent growth with at an uncertain time. I'm truly humbled. I'm grateful to both lisa wad and karen thornton who have invested quite a bit of time in building our member database and outreach programs it sounds like a minor win but i find it so incredibly valuable to us one dashboard to find out about each of you where you're located. How long you've been a member and much more in june after. The nation witnessed the senseless murder. Of george floyd and after feeling so many other waves of sorrow grief and shock about unaddressed. Racial injustice. I was moved to take personal action on behalf of slow flower. Society donated five thousand dollars to the equal justice initiative a nonprofit that fights for law enforcement reform and improvements to the legal system on behalf of underrepresented persons. I called on our members to take their own steps to fight racism while also fighting for inclusivity representation and equity in our profession. And so many of you shared your actions and steps. We launched the professional development fund for black farmers and floors to join the slow fire society and in doing so. We've used those funds to sponsor six new members to join. It's a start and when we hope to continue in the future until the slow flower society looks more like the communities. We live and work in. Thank you to those who joined the suffered. I also want to take note of the fact that while membership is growing there is a significant group of you who membership in slow flowers as lapsed or expired. Many times this has to do with an expired credit card. And you don't even know about it in early fall. We kicked off a we want you back campaign urging members to return and renew and we offered you an incredible promo code to us doing so that promo code expires on december. Thirty first. and if you're one who hasn't taken advantage of are welcome back campaign now is the time to do it. Check the link in today's show notes under membership before it's too late by the way. The link i mentioned is worth checking out to see all the member benefits. You may not be taking advantage of them. All and those are missed opportunities and a final note after holding membership subscriptions level since slow flowers launch in two thousand and fourteen with no increases. We are announcing new rates for new members who joined beginning twenty twenty for existing members. Those rates won't take effect until your annual renewal. The new rates will be ninety nine dollars for standard annual membership and two hundred and forty nine for premium annual membership. We also conduct our annual members. Survey it was a year of ambition to be sure if you took our twenty twenty one member survey you'll know to what i refer more than two hundred of. You took the survey during the month of october and that was triple our previous years engagement. We learned so much about you. And i've been posting the insights category by category as a series which you can read at slow flowers journal dot com of note seventy four percent of you rate the value of your slow flowers membership as high or very high. I'm so grateful for your support. There's definitely an opportunity to grow that percentage and to demonstrate to you the value of your membership investment. I believe that the more you engage the more value you enjoy so please put in the time and effort to participate in the mini opportunities and programs. We offer as a thank you for your participation. In the survey we sent out a cute so flowers society etched. We put everyone's name in a random drawing for free registration to the twenty one. Slow flowers summit at fight lowly in woodside california. Congratulations to stoke of lucky cut flowers in longmont colorado for winning that full registration valued at five hundred and ninety nine dollars. Cu there in june aby operations. Slow flowers is growing up as an organization and that is reflected in the programs and systems. We have in place to run things. More smoothly and improve our responsiveness to you with the covid. Scaleback of karen thornton's consulting for corporate event clients. We took advantage of her talents in time to bring her on board as our operations and membership manager on top of the event management. She handled since two thousand and eighteen. Thank you karen. You have improved streamline. So many processes moved us to google for business taken the lead on finance and budget management and run so many behind the scenes details that the list is too large to share here. Our team also includes nisha lanka's fetching social responsibilities have expanded to include management of our facebook community. And we've added. Becky fees be as i mentioned of prairie girl flowers in calgary alberta to manage our growing slow flowers candidate membership. Wow also cool right well. One of the cool things karen has built is our online south hours until store. It began as a place where you could purchase signed copies of my three most recent books and it's expanded to include american flowers week bouquet labels stars society items including plant tags a bookmark and blink journal and some special work from friends of slow flowers. We hope to grow the shop to feature our favourite makers and vendors so move into two thousand and twenty one publications and education twenty twenty witnessed the expansion of my teaching publishing to encourage support and showcase the amazing people involved. This slow flowers members in june. We celebrated the publication of slow flowers journal volume one. Which is a compilation of the best. Slow flowers journal articles features and profiles that appeared in review from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen one hundred twenty. Eight pages are filled with the talents of more than eighty slow flowers. Growers farmer florus and floral designers. And we can't wait for you to see and read what's inside. Thank you to flourish review and wildflower media for publishing this lovely book and thank you to the amazing team including creative director. Robin omni and book designer. Jenny diaz this project was so rewarding demonstrates a tangible opportunity to share stories of our slow flowers community. So i'm here to announce that robin omni and i have formed a joint venture to develop more books to continue. The mission of slow flowers are project is called bloom imprint and it serves as the publishing arm of slow flower society. We have five books in development and we hope to announce those titles and authors in early. Two thousand twenty one. Some of you already may have seen our call for submissions for our first book where we bloom which i will be writing. And it will showcase more than thirty hours members and their studios workshops greenhouses and flower stands. That book will be published in march twenty twenty one and you'll be able to preorder it very soon and to support everyone from spiring writers to floral professionals who desire to improve their own content through the written word. I launched the first slow flowers. Creative workshop floral storytelling as an online course in early november sixty of you registered for the online course and spent the month of november working through the modules lessons and worksheets at your own pace. A highlight for me. Were the weekly office. Our sessions of course via zoom. When students and i met to discuss writing challenges and achievements. Thank you to all who participated the next session of slow flowers. Creative workshops begins jenny. Six and i've created a coupon code for slow flowers members to enjoy one hundred dollars off the two hundred ninety seven dollar registration. If you're not a member i have a fifty dollar off coupon for you. So take advantage of those benefits and join in. I'll share a link to the course in today's show notes where you'll also see some of the rave reviews from past students and speaking of online courses. I wanna share details about a new free course my year end gift to you. The courses called taking stock and looking ahead how to write a year in review and future forecast for your brand for the past seven years. I have turned the calendar page to the new year by first revisiting. The one coming to a close. This ritual has become my regular year in review practice as i take stock of what's happened in the prior twelve months how my efforts supported my mission and the relationships developed along the way this exercise ben becomes a springboard for my second ritual the season writing the slow flowers floral insights and industry forecast report so the free online course that i wanna share with. You covers my process and methods for both of these valuable tools after you take this mini course. You'll have the building blocks to write your own year in review and fluoro- forecast once you've completed the course you'll have to narratives that you can use for blog posts newsletter articles and other content to support your brand by reflecting on highlights of the past year. You can learn so much about your priorities. Passion purpose and i hope what's most profitable in terms of trading your time for income whether it's for personal or professional reasons as this year comes so close. I encourage you to take time to write a creative year in review when you do this a narrative emerges one that can guide your insights for next year's floral forecast for your business. You're hearing my year in review right now and i encourage you to sign up for the free course so you can write your own euro review and next week. We'll talk about what's in store for twenty twenty one. I don't have a crystal ball. But i do have a process and method for assessing the cultural shifts that helped me forecast. Floral themes and topics will experience in the year to come. I look forward to sharing those with you. And you can find the link and the promo codes in today's show notes had tepper printing dot com as close. I want to thank all of the sponsors and partners who have so generously supported the work of the slow flowers. Society are major sponsors for two thousand twenty include. Johnny selected seeds long field gardens rooted farmers. As cfd that's the association of specialty cut flower growers and the seattle wholesale chorus market. Our program sponsors include sick sales may ash wholesale flowers scenic place peonies and the gardeners workshop. Slow floors podcasts has been downloaded more than six hundred seventy three thousand times by listeners. Like you thank you for listening commenting and sharing it. Means so much. As our movement gains more supporters and more passionate participants who believe in the importance of our domestic cutler industry the momentum is contagious. I know you feel it to twenty twenty has been a challenging year for all of us and we have continued to deliver fresh original content to you through the slow flowers podcast weekend and week out actually since two thousand thirteen not counting all the time invested in developing the topics guests and content. We invest more than ten thousand dollars annually to bring you this award winning internet radio program. Your financial support can ensure that we continue into two thousand twenty one if every listener contributes just two dollars. Those funds would add up quickly to cover our out of pocket costs to record at it host and promote the slow flowers podcast. Would you consider making a year donation. I value your support and invite you to show your thanks to support slow flowers ongoing advocacy education and outreach activities you can find the donate button in the column to the right at deborah. Printing dot com. I'm deborah printing host and producer of the slow flowers. Podcasts next week you're invited to join me putting more slow flowers on the table. One vase at a time. And if you like what you hear please consider logging onto itunes and posting a listener review the content and opinions expressed. Here are either mine alone or those of my guests alone. Independent of any podcast sponsor or other person company or organization. The slow flores. Podcast is engineered and edited by andrew brand lynn. Learn more about his work at sound body movement dot com.

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Episode 511:  The Creative Journey, Finding Your Artistic Voice, Truth and Expression with floral artist and educator, Sue McLeary

Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing

45:23 min | Last month

Episode 511: The Creative Journey, Finding Your Artistic Voice, Truth and Expression with floral artist and educator, Sue McLeary

"Hello again and welcome back to the slow flowers. Podcast with deborah princeton episode. Five hundred eleven. This is the weekly podcast about slow flowers and the people who grow and design with them. It's all about making a conscious choice. And i invite you to join the conversation and the creative community as we discuss the vital topics of saving our domestic flower farms and supporting a floral industry. That relies on a safe seasonal and local supply of flowers and foliage. This podcast is brought to you by slow. Flowers dot com the free online directory to more than eight hundred eighty florist shops and studios. Who designed with local seasonal and sustainable flowers and to the farms that grow those blooms. It's the conscious choice for buying and sending flowers a thank you to our lead sponsor for twenty twenty one farm girl. Flowers from real flowers delivers iconic burlap wrap bouquets and lush abundant arrangements to customers across the us supporting more than twenty us flower farms by purchasing more than nine million dollars of us grown fresh and seasonal flowers and foliage annually and providing competitive salaries and benefits to team members based in watsonville california and miami florida. Learn more at pharma. Flowers dot com for each podcast episode. this year. We think three of our major sponsors are first sponsored. Today is long field. Guards which provides home gardner's with high quality flower bulbs and perennials. Their online store offers plans for every region and every season from tulips daffodils to dahlia's caladiums amaryllis. Check out the full catalog at long field dash gardens dot com in march of two thousand seventeen. I wrote a ten page profile of susan mccleary that appeared in florence review. Magazine's creativity issue. Is this article. That inspired me to invite sue to be our keynote speaker at the upcoming slow flowers summit taking place next week on june twenty eight through thirtieth in the san francisco bay area at the amazing venue fi lowly historic house and garden sues personal story of seeking claiming and boldly nurturing her creative process and practice as an artist will inspire an emboldened. Everyone who hears her at the summit so as a floral designer artist and instructor who creates unusual boundary pushing floral art including elaborate flora wearables large scale installations and her signature botanical jewelry. Her soulful seasonally inspired creations have been described as exquisite living artwork. a passionate teacher sue offers. Private design instruction for new and professional floors in her studio through her online class. platform and at destination workshops. Her work has been featured on the cover of fusion flowers magazine twice and in leading industry publications and websites including martha stewart weddings flores review my modern met refinery twenty nine self buzzfeed. Belle are more cosmopolitan ebony and grace or wedding style so as a member of the south our society and chapel designers her first book the art of wearable flowers was released in march of two thousand twenty a few weeks ago in anticipation of sues keynote presentation at the slow floors summit the creative journey she and i met up over zoom to record this special episode. I hope you enjoy it as much as i have. As i mentioned in the interviews sue has appeared as co on to past episodes of the slow flowers podcasts. But that was many years ago just for fun. Click on over to our show notes for episode five eleven which you can find at deborah. Printing dot com. And you'll find the links to episodes two hundred and seventeen and two hundred and twenty both recorded during the fall of two thousand. Fifteen at lisa wads flower house. Detroit event also share a link to that two thousand seventeen article about sue that i mentioned called a curious creative. And you'll find links to many ways to study with suma cleric. Let's jump right in and enjoy this lovely conversation with top influence sir in the sofas community. Welcome back to the slow flowers podcast with deborah printing. And i'm thrilled today. To welcome back to the slow vars podcast. Susan mccleary aka passion flower sue. And so so good. Be looking at your face on zoom even though our listeners. Can't see you thanks for joining me today. Thank you so much. I'm happy to be back. I know it's been way too long. And i was thinking about it. You and fronts was weeks. And i did a podcast interview together in two thousand sixteen during detroit flower week and as i recall the two of you were making personal of florals for a wedding or something. The whole time we were talking. You were in that loft remember that. I can't even remember that. You really remember them well. It was really fun but it was definitely like about that. You know about francois's about your her influences on you and you know we can refer back to that but all that to say it's been way too long since our listeners have heard what's what you're up to and Number one sue. You've agreed to be our keynote speaker at the slow flowers summit. It's been two years in the making. Finally we're going to get to hear your presentation In a few weeks at the summit in the bay area at fi- lowly and it's a hybrid presentation called the creative journey. And i was just wondering if you would talk a little bit about it without giving away all all the insights serve secrets. But the subtitle is finding your artistic voice truth and expression. And i don't know sue i just feel like you are such a such icon. Ick kind of in unique person. Who really strives to have her own her own perspective on things and not copy. Anybody and i think that's probably integrated into the presentation. You're going to get fright. Yes so this is going to be a pretty personal presentation. I wrote it two years ago. And then i've been reading it over and adding to it in adjusting it sense. Yeah i feel so passionately that you know. We are artists as florists. And it's not something we've been told you know that we are the larger culture kind of sees a certain way and we limit ourselves. I believe because of those views. So yeah i mean i've been through a lot of kind of chopping through some self limiting beliefs. I like what you started to say though. I've been chopping through self limiting beliefs. Because i feel like that those at script all women have that script in their head. At in some way and maybe mendez but we can only relate to what women are experiencing off right about your supposed to be how you're supposed to act and what is what is your purpose in life and you've been trying to peel that away and figure out what the truth is right. Yeah so. I'm a shy person. I'm an introvert. So when when this passion kind of you know. When i found it it was really difficult for me to speak up. And kind of enter into the world of forestry. I had things i wanted to share. I had things i was passionate about. But i was very insecure about my my own voice so i feel like if i can help someone else kind of break out of their shell you know. Offer some of these these. You know techniques if you will for for cracking open my own shell they can offer them to other people talk and help them kind of step out than that's really what i feel drawn to do lately. I feel like. I'm stepping into the flower mama kind of role and talking to so many students and seeing similar themes about feeling stifled creatively or limiting themselves based on what culture expects from forestry if i can challenge them those viewpoints and help them step out. That's really what i feel drawn to do right and i it's interesting. I'm thinking of a a little note that you included in the book when you sent me a copy of the art world flowers and i pulled it out this morning and It was quite lovely. You said This book is meant to inspire floors to see themselves as artists. I want to encourage designers to make what they're craving to see instead of working reaction to a request and essentially. That's what you're referring to in terms of changing the narrative right definitely. Yeah i mean because i had to write this keno i was honored to write this keno off. I had to kind of think through my thought process. I had to kind of rewind everything in imagine how i felt when i was starting out in how i kind of grew through this experience and i can remember so many things. I mean like word for word. What people told me when i said i wanna be a florist. You know. they told me you're never gonna make any money. They kind of almost laughed sometimes. Like like really My mom you know. I love her dearly but she said like people spend so much money on weddings. Why like essentially saying. It's a waste of money to be a wedding flores like why do you want to perpetuate that exactly. I feel like there's all of these things at the culture tells us what floors should be and then of course we have our own insecurities as artists as creatives So yeah. I'm all about challenging. That i think we should see ourselves as artists. I think just like chefs. You know we're working with the ephemeral medium we We have to do things to people's tastes if you will. But if we're willing to take the creative rains and make things that are exciting to us. We will in turn offer things that are more exciting to the public and get them more interested in what we do. Yeah yeah. I mean the next paragraph on this little letter you wrote it just continues that you said after. All it's in sharing our boldest most boundary defiant work which i love that phrase that will collectively be inspired thus pushing the industry forward so you you are in that education role where you're trying to infuse confidence in your students and in your peers to say. Hey let's push this boundary And break the crack the shell or whatever and redefine ourselves as artists. I know that's going to be an encouragement to folks who are attending and also you know obviously in the past summit will have the video available in the fall and can reach even more people But yeah it's almost like you gave yourself permission. Now you're giving others permission You know moving at paying it forward. Yeah that's really what i hope to do. I want to challenge the public. I want to like offer them. Things that are unexpected and exciting. So that they view our work differently and then i want to encourage flores to take a creative rains so that they can stay interested in their work. You know stay kind of filled by it and you know it's not about having one creative idea than holding on dearly it's about opening up to the possibilities letting yourself explore the things that you're excited about and once you kind of turn that tap on that's when you really start to create work that speaks to other people and fills fills your own Cup is wow yeah. Yeah citing and i know you're going to do a two demos one is just a maybe a quickie because it'll be at the end of your presentation and i don't know if you have anything specific plan. Maybe it's just gonna be like a meditation in flowers Something planned yeah. I'm going to share that little. Hack the little trick. That i used to get myself out of my kobe funk when everything shut down and i was so excited to to travel Book tour in everything stopped. I know everyone can remember that feeling. When all the events got cancelled everything stopped. I really didn't know how to turn on the creativity in that moment. I felt really stifled. And then i had this little creative hack. That i turn to and i'm going to share that with the group. Oh my gosh. Oh that's awesome and just with it. I think it's going to be incredibly helpful in you know it's so funny just listening to you talk about a year ago. We were together at trend summit at hitomi wonderful workshop in mid march of twenty county and you you were not the only one who is kind of freaking out about getting home to family. Because i was the only one who drove in terms of the speakers. Everyone else flu even francois's flu and you said to me something to the effect of. Wow this is my first book signing event and it turned out to be your only in person one of all twenty twenty And it was like high low really fast too extreme emotions and it's completely surreal. It really was and This book the art wearable flowers is been just celebrate it and positively received everywhere and it it really is an accumulation of numerous years of you experimenting with wearable flowers in a different way right and so we're not gonna have a wearable flower component per se at the summit. But i'm sure they'll be people who will pick up on some of those techniques and i guess we're going to have this big day of playing with flowers of somebody wants to make a headpiece. I'm sure we'll let or a piece of jewelry. We'll let them do that. But that you're not here. You're not gonna teach that per se probably not The little hack. I'm going to share Will hint to some aware of applications. Good we'll have the book there for you to for people to purchase and have you sign if they don't have it already and then on the first day of the summit. I just wanna touch on this. Because i'm so excited about it. So lowly is this amazing Th century late nineteenth century georgian revival architecture a country estate kind of inspired property. And we've been invited to do a floral design takeover of this mansion there. I think there's eighteen rooms. I think we're gonna maybe use about twelve of them but teams of people will get to To some decor in the in the rooms but before to kinda warm us up and get us excited. You're going to start with a a a. I don't want to portray it is it. A large scale foam free installation. Is that how you describe it. Okay yeah yeah awesome. That's going to really get people thinking about scale and proportion and not being you know letting yourself think big designing right. Yeah and the techniques. I'll share are really easy to pick up in. Fold into what you're already doing at. You can combine them and pretty much create anything that you can dream up That's great it'll be really fun. It's great i love it. I love it when there's no rules and you're not designing for a client you're just designing for yourself and your own pleasure and of course everyone will get to see each other's work so it'll be inspiring to go from room to room and experience that and we'll we'll have we'll have it photographed in the future Before we get going on some other questions. I have sue. We should just pause. And actually i would like to ask you to define. What is your business right now. What is soon mccleary as a floral enterprise. And what are the key. Facets because you've evolved a lot since you and i first met and you're not doing weddings anymore. Not know come so if you years ago i realized that you know when somebody would ask me a question like how did you make this. I found myself just so satisfied by you. Know answering meticulously in taking all the time in sharing photos in. It just became obvious that that's really where. I like to be like to test. Break things apart but the back together and then share my findings. My favorite favorite activities are scientists. Should be doing that in the lab. It's like a real bright energy thing to do exactly so yeah i just. I just started teaching. You know it happened naturally aman. I just kept following. What felt most right and most good. I'm not a personality that set up well to do events long-term i feel like it's kind of a fast life. It's a little too fast for me. Jd enjoy you saying that when you say events are up when you say events you mean like what wedding wedding sentiments so productions production. Yeah though. I haven't pursued wedding's in about three years and i've been transitioning more and more teaching so I believe it was four years ago. I started my first set of online classes and they went well which was a surprise. I'm so thankful for that But that allowed me to fully kind of move into the teaching realm and let the Studio events florist soccer says slows. Doors happily go. Yeah and and so now. You have a new studio. Have you changed locations to tell us a little bit about where you're located. Well yeah i have studio had a fairly large studio because that was welcoming a lot of students my lease came up last april i decided it was really kind of a rash decision but i decided not to renew because i knew i needed to be closer to home To kids you know who need to provision now with online school and so on. So i didn't renew but instead got a membership in a shared artist's studio space so it has a calendar shared calendar new. Just kind of map out the days that you need then you can go and do your class or your photo shooter. What whatever you need to do. And that's in ann arbor. Yeah it's maybe like a quarter mile from my house so so if you did have a private one on one student who wanted to to learn you could have the space accommodate that but if you wanna film a class you can do that too. Yes they can't. Yeah that's great. I love it is so versatile. The space where i work is my dining room. Who needs the formal dining room anyway. Like nobody uses those things well. I feel like interestingly that you started online content You know video courses whatever. The right term is but like four years ago and now we're also we've recalibrated expectations and actually being able to study online has opened up a possibilities to study with anyone in the world. You don't have to travel. And i'm sure that's been a bump for you just in terms of the types of people who are wanting to sign up for your courses. Yeah i'm seeing a lot of people who have had applause happy pause or not so happy toss but they have the time now to consider forestry. A lot of people are coming from different careers interesting. Yeah i mean. I'm kinda seeing that too but i hadn't thought about the fact that if someone is trying to maybe they have come from a different art medium or they've come from a different profession they've got to self educate and taking courses this really the the easiest point of entry to get that knowledge right. Yeah so you right. You have a couple different products that people can subscribe to or purchase. Stu mind of walking us through that. And i'll put all this in our show notes for today's episode at de printing dot com. See if you don't if you haven't looked at these options now's the time to check it out. Yeah so do. I have stand alone kind of all cart classes. I started like. I said four years ago with a set of wearable tutorials Built up from there. I have bocquet classes centerpiece classes in large scale installation classes and i bundled them all because we have been gathering for so many years and so they live in a group called the essentials. Toolkit but you can still buy them all card that's important meetings to let people pick and choose what they what they want. And then i have a membership called the virtual studio that is nearly three years old now And that's like a gym membership. So you pay monthly or yearly and you attend. These lives that i offer and each month. There's a new course that's added to the library. So if you join today. I think you'd have about sixty videos to watch which is almost too much but but then it's also kind of at your leisure. You can go back and scroll the the librarian see. What topic is you need. Help with something like that definitely. Yeah so like i said. I have a lot of newer florist. Who are just starting to do their first leading events. You know this season so they'll go through the librarian. Say oh gosh i have to make. And they'll dislike. Click on the chris hodge tutorial and to start making it while they're watching so it's pretty pro sue. You probably have more than one for sasha video because you call it. What don't you call yourself a corsage embassador self-appointed you know what say it in it's true That's really awesome. And so the those are sort of two ways that people can learn from you and then you said you have Something really new that. You're launching just yesterday. now. I do so There is a missing piece really there was kind of the mindset piece. I loved to talk about so much like fostering creativity stepping into your role as an artist and beyond that recently like in the last year. I've taken some time to learn from some other. Really amazing mentors. Crystal whitaker is one jordan manny and my friend julie. Toby these are women who are teaching people how to really align their core values with their business Taking all of those threads in weaving them together so that you know your everyday actions demonstrate what you believe in and for me. Those things felt separate for so long. I felt like i was kind of Struggling to articulate what. I really care about So i mean i can't i can't stress enough. How amazing working with these women as has been so. I've asked them to be part of this new course so called the floral mentor. So it's it's some of my mentors. The three i just mentioned but also told me gilliam and alison l. s. And then i created some some content. Excuse me some new content about marketing. As i have sarah done she. Seo marketing expert who has contributed. Gosh some instagram stuff. Just kind of like making friends with instagram. So you can use it to forward. You know to to progress your business so that all of that is new And i've kind of sandwiched it with the essentials toolkit and where patching packaging it all and offering it later. This summer i think june twenty second is when the sale begins so if you already have mental toolkit you can just decide to purchase kind of the business mindset. Seo marketing portion of the course. Or if you don't have anything of mine and you want doll you can hurt the whole package and you purchase this business. Mindset kind of Core as a standalone or does it need to be yet package with the other content. You can you can buy the design. Heavy side the essentials toolkit or you can buy the new The marketing the mindset. Seo and instagram yeah. I'd love that. I'd love to i'd love to. I didn't know you putting this. Group of awesome co presenters in co instructors together. I would love to do that. Just because i think it would apply to slow flowers and what we're doing and I'm never gonna teach them up. Do floral design. But i need to learn myself some of the things that you're talking about in terms of. Yeah we all have kind of had this wakeup call during the last year especially of social injustice and inequity and all you know all of the all of the challenges around race and equity and inclusion and i feel like those of us who really care about changing the floral profession and our own our own walk through that Are looking for just a little bit of a roadmap you know and you've been so good at that sue in terms of using your platform per issues you care about and it's all it's been a real inspiration to me and to others and i think that is you're right. That is sort of in the past those values that aren't specific about your design. Aesthetic have sort of been marginalized. And you're trying to say no. No no it's who. I am as an artist and and and this is. This is how i can be in the world. If i integrate these things. Yeah i i believe that strongly i knew that intellectually for years that felt like this battle inside but like you said in the last year year and a half we've had more time with ourselves to like hear the thoughts in our head telling us where we could do better so i really think equal to listening to your artistic voice and making things that fulfill you equal to that you. Also your business flourishes when it's aligned with your core values because then you're not saying yes to things that you don't align with your not found you don't find yourself in positions where you feel badly about dynamics in a situation. i know. i'm being a little vague. But i hopefully people can understand what i'm trying to say like if you're not recognizing what's important to you in how you want to show up in the world if you're not clear about that and it's not woven into what you do in your daily business then you can find yourself in some really uncomfortable situations and i think you're right sue and i think that that's that's something that I guess from what you just said is we can either be reactionary or we can be intentional. And if we've done the work to think through what our evaluation how we want to articulate them then we can be more prepared to move in the world and stay state what is okay and what is not okay in our value system so it isn't. You can't be casual about it. You have to be intentional. Good all right. I'm going to sign up for that. Because i love the idea and i just love the fact that it's kind of best practices. Now you know it's not just some you know fringe thing it's it's somebody w- we know that that's the direction that the that consumers especially younger consumers really care about is looking at a company or professional personality. Like are you authentic. And do you walk the talk. So there's an expectation there from from everyone. And so i love that i just have to say The fact that you're doing work that excites and moves to you. And i've talked about many times And i loved the our first collaboration as me interviewing you and writing a story was back in. I want to say two thousand seventeen for florence review and it was a nice. It was back when there were a lot of pages given to article. So it's like eleven page article or something. The curious creative. Which i'll share a link to that. I have a pdf for people to read. And it's if you want to look back at sort of sousse thought process this this'll be one snapshot of that. But what blew my mind sue. Is that you okay. It's a trade magazine. They have no money for photography. They expect floors to supply their photos. And you said okay. This is important. I want to create a whole new body of work that hasn't been published before and that was incredible that you did that and are. Are you finding that that that kind of ties in with your comment about making what you craving to see. Are you still doing that. Yes i yeah i feel strongly that when something strikes you when you have an idea when you have An opportunity like a new. That would be a beautifully written article. Because i know you as a writer. So i knew it would be. It would give me a chance to think through my journey up till then. And so i wanted to feel a special and i wanted to honor that whole process with creating new work not just regurgitating or sharing something. That's already been shares. Yeah i think. I think we have to slow down a little bit sometimes and sign on for a little more work. Sometimes it pays off always when when you have an opportunity to share something new You feel strongly about. I think that always comes back to you somehow. So it's worth the effort. Yeah and it doesn't always have to be a budget a budget buster. Either i mean you probably Do do a trade or do some kind of No use flowers at your growing instead of having to go purchase them. I don't know. I'm not quite sure how you pull these. Together you've been working with amanda dumas. Shell say her last name. Yeah you've been working with. Amanda for many years and i know that she took those photographs. And that's sort of been one of your secret weapons in terms of how to put your work out in the marketplace because you're arch directing with a photographer who you trust. Yes yes that's been a little. I think That relationship has allowed me to share my work. I mean i have to have professional clear. Detailed imagery to be able to communicate You know the worker wanna communicate so it's been a huge benefit me. Yeah yeah there's something about the mccleary feed on instagram. It's still is passion flower sue. I mean that's probably the only place that name appears now right. 'cause you your website. Well i do have a passion. Flower sued dot com website. That's all my online classes. That's right okay. An suv mccleary dot. Com is really more Your your hub your books in your blog posts and whatever or do you have a i do. Yes awesome locking good girl. I'll go back and read some of those. That's awesome but you have this this instantly recognisable visual brand. And i don't know if it just evolved over time but you know there's certain way that you and amanda producer images and i'm sure some of them you're sticking with your iphone you're not having the pro- in every time you want to post something that's very generous of you. We used to joke about it being just a white wall and that's really all it is is a white wall you can see behind me. I have no way but there's something something about the how you compose it and the light. I mean there's a little more to it than that really no. It's very simple so my old studio there was nothing special about it architecturally. It was in a warehouse but it had a lot of natural light and a blank white wall and so instead of painting a color or making some backdrop or whatever just embraced the simplicity of the light wall. Because i really want the flowers to be focused. I don't wanna tracked. Se people who who make sets that are exquisite. But for me. I just like the simple clarity. So yeah it's just a white wall with a with a sidelight natural coming from the side. And then i just position my flowers so that they hit the light. Just write a mets. that's it again. We've become an excellent hand model because your hand is or arm is most of those images Yeah just flipped the camera towards me so that i can see what i'm doing well It's it's a very simple thing to offer right now but people ask about that a lot because bill hold up their hand trying to get a fought of flower in. They can't really see what the can't see with the latest because the camera's not flipped toward late right. If you flip your camera around than you can really catch the light just right and get more detail. It's because there's a camera on on both the front and the back of a phone generally so you're able to do that well towards you then you can subject. You can look at your subject in the camera. while you're shooting it brilliant. I never thought cheese so simple as you are working on a new book so before we wrap up. I'd love to have you share what you can and how people can get on your mailing list so that when it's available there the first to find out because there's probably a few more seasons of production before is actually available right. Yes i have a lot of work to do in fact Yeah so the next book will not be focusing wearables. The next local be focused on. How anyone who's vaguely artful can bring flowers into the home and create special things From little tiny meditative things all the way up to designing for a smaller kind of cardi. So it'll probably be called flowers for all. Because i love the idea of working with things that aren't you know you know like florist often. We we choose to work with the really juicy precious things that only we can get working with some juicy precious things but also a lot of easily accessible material. Just like every day things that you would cut out of your garden or pick out of the garden from the farmers market from local growers from the greenhouse Yes encouraging people. Bring flowers in so. I love that so flowers for all. And are you shooting for twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three puppy. I figured with with with the amount of photography. You probably have to do. Well we will wait for that. That's so exciting. Congratulations and is amanda. Shooting a man is not amanda. It's still busy. I'm working with the new photographer. Who i've known for quite some time. Her name is emily burger. Yes she does. Cookbooks for the same publisher. So ralph miller with each other. So it's a great relationship. I've seen her work. And that's that's wonderful and these will be vignettes of real spaces in interiors. It's not studio kind of shot so it'll be a different Visual for you to it will. And i've challenged myself to use only seasonal and us grown flowers grossly local from. You know how happy that makes me that. Yeah terrific and that's that's cool. It's like a sort of a a little footnote through the whole book. That people you. You're not hitting him over the head with it but you're just kind of pointing out the story of every choice that you make so alexei. Oh dear anything else. You want to tell everyone before. I let you go because this isn't a delightful conversation. I can't tell you. How happy am that. You're coming to the slow flowers summit sue. It means so much to me. I'm very excited to. I have to say. I can't wait to give the speech because i've been thinking about it so much about that was not my fault that was we had to postpone by a year right right but i'm with you. I'm like i'm excited that it's happening but i'm really excited to pivot to twenty twenty two and like check this box off because i feel like i planned the same conference two years in a row like on. Repeat right but i really excited to be there. The other designers that are coming There's quite a lineup. So i'm thrilled to be among them. I can't wait to hang out with old friends. I haven't seen in a while. An inspirational people Mexico come navy xining as well which is super exciting. I can't wait to work with all the locally. Grown flowers that are being gathered for this event Yeah it's gonna be awesome. Well thank you. So much my dear I look forward to seeing you in person in about three weeks and we. Are you know what you have to say is going to be obviously very personal. And unique to you. But in some ways a high sense that there's a universality That we're all seeking to know this about ourselves. So i think that that's the door that you're asking people to step through To redefine who you are as creative in whatever work you do and not just flowers obviously and that's going to be something that i will take with me as you know just to cherish When i feel like i'm stuck in a rut so maybe you're hack help me out so i look forward to seeing. Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you debra. Thank you so much for joining us today. As sue mentioned she launched a new course yesterday on june twenty second called the floral mentor. I'll have a lincoln. Our show notes to learn more for one week you can sign up and receive a free gift from sue just for checking it out. In this course sue and her cohort of friends and colleagues help you master the art the heart and the business of floral design. It's all about aligning your core values with your business. So explains she'll introduce students to her wonderful. Mentors who teach valuable lessons to sue has learned from each together. They will help you create the art. You're truly capable of build a fulfilling business you love and join hands to move the floral industry forward together. I can get behind those aspirations. Maybe this course has your name on it to check it out. Our next sponsor thank you goes to read. Twig farms based in johnstown ohio. Red twig farms is a family owned farm. That specializes in peonies. Daffodils tulips and branches plus a popular peony vocab by mail program and they're spread the hope campaign customers purchase. Ten tulip stems for essential workers and others in their community. learn more at red twig farms. dot com. If you're heading to the south are summit. You're in for an epic tree to learn from soon. Mccleary as she demonstrates large-scale foam free floral installation techniques that will kick off the vilely lowly floral takeover and then you'll hear her keynote presentation on the creative journey. 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REINVENTING BRANDING

Reinvention Radio

54:35 min | 1 year ago

REINVENTING BRANDING

"Podcast magazine the preeminent publication covering podcasts podcast culture and the podcasters fans is love is launching in January of twenty twenty prior to launch. You can grab a free lifetime subscription at triple W. podcast US magazine Dot Com. If you love podcasts if you're a podcast through or if you just want to stay on top of what's going on in this growing medium medium subscribe now and grab a free lifetime subscription while you can once again that's triple W. podcast magazine. Zine DOT COM. This is where normal comes to die mediocrity meets its final demise is the status quo is unabashedly dismantled. Welcome to reinvention radio. Now here's your host Steve Ulcer Karate. Welcome to when you hear of re invention radio singles making out with the lovely Mary. Leyla Maryville which Taylor Thera. What's happening or weight control in the studio Kelly's go under control the headquarters and here on reimagined radio or hanging out with breath? The Amazing Shirl Hodgson Hi Cheryl you came all the way down from the Valley of La to be with us. And I'm so excited to be here here. Yeah we're winter in San Diego winner in San and all two days of it. I am freezing layered up here and as as I say right before I go to bed and it's always add on a he no matter what we do. I just never get warm enough. That's why I had to get out of Chicago and I've my expression is I'm freezing. I'm going to die and and my wife literally. Yeah and my wife looks at me. She goes now. No no you want I know muster chagrined bad weeds never die. Yeah my dad kill bad grass. Ask can't kill backgrounds freezing going to die. No you're not man really awesome having you here. And I'm I'm doing my best barry white impression here before. Yeah before the end of the year and this actually you you are the final you are it. You are the The what's the what's the top because the There's an easy word that begins with E. The say what to use the upper the final of the year that what is it a pity me a mic right. Excuse Excuse Yeah Hitomi. Of the year last one actually has the high end of the year would be the last of Pinnacle Pinnacle Pinnacle of reinvention radio. We reached our final crescendo of the year. And you are encore well. I've been looking for a long unhappy to hang with you here and And so yeah a lot of lot of ground to cover and Just meant 2019 covered covered a lot of ground. And this era tame make sure you guys listen to past episodes because boy did we have some Some amazing people on Rian mentioned radio and twenty nine thousand nine hundred and and and for sure on our other show beyond figures. If you haven't listened to that into the Cheryl's less listened to your interview with re Tracy retracing most interest. I should lean Johnson. Shanta Sumter haven't listened to Shannon's emphasize channels. Just we had a lot of amazing folks on twenty nineteen gene on beyond eight figures as well so make sure you guys check that out and thank you for those who've been reviewing leaving those lovely thoughts on on both shows thank you for that so here on reinvention radio we cover the gamut today. We're talking about reinventing branding and that's Lucien I and that's the top. What what so let? Let's talk about brands from an outside perspective. What is what is the mentioned radio brand to you what what does it scroll your I ours? Yeah that would be very clear what you're doing and you're and I love the fact that you're reinventing the status quo and dismantling it. That's we are awesome. Awesome planned as you're reading the the banner in taking it in from a visual perspective but she liked the red too. I do like those are my callers. I didn't cop from you either. Red Red Black and gray. Yeah you got the cat rimmed red glasses on the red sweater. Your layer your layered up as well. The color red is a good color for you. So so let's talk about first of all like what. How would you define a brand? I know that is I was so happy. You'RE GONNA ask that question hoping you read my mind because I think that's the biggest problem is it's to me. It's one of the most use overused terms and it doesn't really. It means different things to different people apple and I kinda got into this because I was on the legal side of what I call one aspect branding and so it's kind of been my passion. The last eight or ten years to kind of like will what about all these other people over here and what about people say brand this brand that and I don't think brand. Is anyone anyone thing. I think it's a process and it's not you don't ever arrive at the destination. It's the process or part of Building business if you want to have connection and currency with your customers and so my new little thing Came up with this. You know creating connection and community bills currency and. I don't know that anybody else would define branding that way. And it's not my only Bran Dan but isn't that like in just so I'm clear it should've folk like just by name alone. Wound or symbol alone. Like when you see whatever that icon is whether again. That's like the Nike swoosh rape or or the word. I don't know Microsoft as an example apple right like shouldn't shouldn't a brand of folk like isn't that I the ideal scenario where whatever that symbol is. Whatever that word is it it speaks for itself? You'll must isn't that's what you that's what you want to aspire to write. Only speak to itself invoke okay. What what Volk motion in a motion? Yeah like a like a response in motion. Well right and I think you're right right on. That's exactly what my point when I say Because first of all I think it branding has changed enormously since the Internet. I mean let's face it. Nobody was online. Nobody had social media. Where if you made one wrong move? You're you know the clients or the customers right there to talk about it publicly in some now. Managing brand reputation for example is a whole different ballgame and also you know even twenty thirty years ago brand rand management was young NBA who got us to hear his or her degree in university and they got hired by General Mills or whoever it was was and they managed to box of cereal on the store shelves and that was that was the distribution outlet. Now a brand whether it's a person or product product or service they have to be all these different platforms and that is the difference to me in terms of reinventing. What brand branding is about? How do you create a way to communicate and connect to the consumer wherever they are because they're not all in one place? It's a big challenge to do that. And do it effectively when you kind of have to do it in bite sized pieces when I say that I don't necessarily mean soundbites. It's I mean people don't have the attention to sit and listen to your whole story so they're getting a bit of you over on Instagram and biddy the over here and over there and when those things your message or colors your things you talk about can be consistent. Then maybe they start. Start to feel that thing but I was Gonna ask you a question. I feel like brand is an interesting state right now because you used to be famous and then you would write a book and now you like write a book and state you're famous and starts the the process to become famous right and I'm over exaggerating. Get the assignments. CYNIC is a perfect example of that. Right yeah I mean you Kinda. It'll sound negative at the beginning. But I mean it in a positive way like you. You kinda stake your flag. This is what I am. And you're guilty until L. proven innocent instead of innocent till proven guilty. That's why being by it's going to sound negative at first but it's like if you say it some people stayed it it and walk into it and others just stayed it and maybe fade away or don't do the necessary things but I feel like brand when you get to that next level like you're talking about the bigger brands. It's not what you say about you. It's two people talking over there saying about that is it. That is actually the game to me because you know I think about it my goal. Okay well first of all is back up for a second. Just throw this in. What bothered me from my own personal evolution journey was? I always felt like well. I've been over here. You know what I do is part of branding but nobody acknowledged me and on the other hand it exists in silos. And that's what I realized. Is that all the. There's there's like a lot of different people people who go into building a brand now if you're the upper echelons but even you know launching an online business. You end up okay. Well Oh who's going to help me with my social media and and you know who's GonNa there's ends up being a lot more to it than just me in my office and so as you grow you know. How do you develop that? You're right when I say it's you say it's one bite at a time and so let let's take just so we're clear here so you're her when you say in your kind of in the past life and what you are doing and all and you still do some of this now but you. I mean you came from a a legal background. In terms of protecting as Iran's yeah so what. What was that work well? It's early trademark registration in defending brands. Okay I mean it comes down to you. Know somebody may come to me mini clients when they're starting out and it's one simple thing of trying to get them to where they can watch podcast. One product. A certain percentage of those people have a business that grows over time and they expand either into new products Alex and services or they expand overseas so that can involve managing things all over the world. Which I love doing? That's kind of fun but then you also have that small percentage who don't do anything at all and or run into a problem somebody somewhere along the way tries to take their I and you know so. It's how they get protected. But here's where I think the the missing link has been and it's worse than a bigger company any but there is a certain extent of this. which is it's the communication across the lines because I know lawyers and friends of mine who've worked in more more bigger corporations and there's kind of a joke about the fact that will the marketing team always thinks the legal is trying to like shoot him in the foot right? They're not they. We don't see them as like part of the team because while you shoot down every idea we come up with right. I mean that's the perception so you know that's what I mean when I say it exists silos because people have their own area of expertise and now it is much more of a collaborative process but I think it goes back to getting that message out. It's not just what you say you can put out all the great logos and number one you gotta I have good product or service. That's foundational you don't have that you're not gonna go anywhere very far. But it's I think creating when I use the word board connection and community. I'm not even thinking about. I'm thinking about connecting with people. You're working with to me. Experience of a brand is who who. How do I get treated on the other end of the phone or when I show up but at to check in at the airport you know? Am I an unhappy happy employees of a company. That's merged three times and they've been abused or no. It's the culture company cultures. Good part a big part of it especially these days as I mean you think about how many of the people sitting at their office on the computer and there can be. I would never know the exact numbers. But they could be sitting there wasting time. Or they could love where they work and they could be the biggest brand advocates of that company Ab no doubt like more so than the customers almost there. That's the point. You're right on that to me. That's the key. I wonder if that's the kind of an interesting in Mary's a lot of what we've been talking about Mary Mary Mary a lot of what we've been talking about here. But I WANNA like the future of branding to some extent combination of the corporate brand of the personal brand. Like when you think about the CEO's of the future if you've got a choice like John Legere or whatever his name is a guy that T.. Mobile Guy Right like forget exactly what his numbers are but when he so he just I believe signed to come onto we work As the new CEO we work and when you look at his his numbers. I mean from a personal branding standpoint. It gives you a lot of leverage to say. Look I am also a a personal brand not only in terms of what I would be mobile of course and having that notoriety but I've got three million followers on my own on twitter and instagram and then the other Asian standpoint is that is. I mean it's definitely gonNA give you like sand so I guess. The point being the intersection between the personal brand. And the you know the corporate brand is that I if we're talking sort of the future of branding so to speak. How important use that in in terms of the the conversation? Oh I think is right on and I hadn't thought of it that way but I love it what you're saying because Who is it? I'm going to you cover two things at once going back to what you said a little while ago is I love remember. Andy Warhol had a famous quote. which was everybody has fifteen minutes of fame? Uh whether literally or that hurts was what many many quotes but But then the brand called you I mean and I research that in fact my new little book I put a chapter and call the brand called you. Yeah because I want to kind of get into doing some consulting work in the personal branding space coming up and and it's an interesting area. Because professionals the ones that are struggling I mean just even in the exposure of like learning to do Internet marketing and launch podcast. And all the things I'm learning it's amazing to me How many individual professionals who were in corporate America and that was their background are now stepping into a different part of their life and they feel they have something to contribute? They're launching a brand well to that point. I was because I was hearing the corporate vein of the earlier. Part of this conversation and in this room. We're all entrepreneurs right and speak to entrepreneurs etc so I've always branded my name so so that I can have that. Be The umbrella over real estate rentals and my Catholic podcast as well. But when you're doing that how would you suggest honing in on the brand for those three different topics or go with your gut. That's four well I I don't necessarily think there's an overlap like Steve was bringing up but when people think of a personal brand it's more about the personality of the individual. Okay I think because he has three million followers. Because you're something he's putting out there that is related. His name is his brand as well for me. Personally Steve Wilshire's your brand. My wife thinks it's the Brian has no value. By where every home. Ms Like that profit in your own town right. What's it called when you When you try to file for a trademark or patent and then the they come back with the disputes beauts? What do they call? Those trademark is called an office action. And then there's like there's a specific term that they use rejected. Well we check but they yeah they they like dispute or they argue or there's anyway The the joke. So I'm gonNA leave it alone so to that end can you. What can you brand? And what can't you. Why because you can brand anything? What can you trademark? And what can you you trademark. And when when do you actually try to protect something because it's not an inexpensive expensive proposition. Okay first of all. I think that's very good questions. I yeah okay What to trademark win and how okay first of all I'm GonNa Start with the last thing you said? I dispute the value proposition because Having done what I've done for so many years as a lawyer the reason why I wrote the Little Book that I've just written is I actually see it as a back as a consumer awareness guy you know because because I have countless stories of really good people who didn't do anything wrong but the idea of spinning thousand the fifteen hundred dollars at the beginning of their business seem like it was either cost prohibitive or they didn't think it was important and then it costs them either their business this or you know one hundred thousand dollars or more you know to to defend themselves so that is the word that's offend. Yeah when you try to file Ariella patent you have to defend the various elements. Oh that's a that's a little different different. But they're in the same office but it's like it's kind of like one team speaks Greek and the other one speaks Chinese. You know they cut it so with trademarking. You can't trademark title that's correct drain. There can be ten. Go with your gut books out there. And I can't do anything right now but I can tell you how you do that. All right we will have a conversation nation about now but I can just not 'cause it's pretty simple instructor share with everyone Mary. Note what I've been doing it for so many years and I was really blessed to have a chance to work with. Hey House at the beginning of the Internet and all authors and they had courses. They were teaching trainings and certifications and workshops and appearing appearing at events. They're always never their in house. But actually I mean again probably say they got sued by somebody by another one of their authors authors. Got Sued over something. That was ridiculous. This is perfect example okay and it was up in Seattle and there was no basis to the case but this was twenty twenty something years ago. Hey House got brought into it and women who had done some work for them in Los Angeles is an attorney did not know about trademarks so she referred the case to me and and you know that was how I ended up starting working with them but it the authors you can't. We can't trademark the title of the book. DOC But if you create a course sure or training or You might have downloads of audio recordings art. Might you might have a podcast with the same name so the trademark from what I know very little of so correct me. I was trademarking a name but had I had to put in there what I wanted to put that trademark on t shirts coffee mugs Maybe a course but then somebody else in the same name as mine probiotics health things etc.. So you have to be very very specific in that way to get approval. Yes you care. You're infringing on someone else's right. And that's what goes back to Steve's question or which is which who had gotten to that part of your question. which is you can only get a trademark for what you're selling certain products or services okay and Which means you have to be selling something ultimately you can file for before you launch? But you can't actually get the registration to issue until you can prove if you're rendering the services you've launched the podcast you've watched training course. You're selling healthcare. Products doesn't matter what it is right right. And they're forty five categories with literally hundreds and hundreds of entries within each of those categories. And you can make your own as well those you only you file by category for specific goods and services right right so you can't just have it in the only exception to that is is if you've become what's called a famous mark and then I like to say you're like superman and you can leap tall buildings right and you can jump over any any market. There is and those are the famous marks like apple and Microsoft. They can stop anybody from using those terms for basically anything with just a means cease Jason Desist. Yeah that's actually where I was Kinda GonNa go see. It goes back to my statements earlier. The bite size pieces so and I'm a little bit devil's advocate here. You want people to go get trademark on something they haven't sold yet but we live in a world that you kind of have to experiment experiment and go out and see what actually will sell. You might not know the right title yet. You might not know but you could also maybe start now. You're not going to get apple famous overnight overnight. Obviously but if you focus on getting out insane what you do just stayed in it so to your point of there's recordings out turn and you've been saying and you're creating something that's worthy of someone stealing you know. I know this sounds weird but is there a way you can do it in bite size pieces. The process like okay. I'm going to go do this piece and I'm going to focus on getting my workout. There and focus focus on selling it. Then I'm GONNA come back and I'm going to do this piece and then own you you've got a bunch of people. Do go with your gut now. I might want to get into probiotics too so I'm going to go. We'll get that trademark now to can we make perfect sense for you. You know you can you. It's actually a very good. I just called brand extension exactly so electing ideas that come thrown throne this room or a ritchie. You should think about maybe doing something with your ideas. Yeah well I mean. That's that's kind of where I'm going because I've been in this never ending loop with a two but and I don't WanNa go down that right now. Talk to off line but it's like. Can you do that in. Does it have to be one particular order or can it go in different orders. Because I think some people get so caught up. Can we use. Can we use a real life example late because like how. How about PODCASTS magazine? In which I know we've been talking about and so excited you're launching that. Thank you so I'm going to sign up to write some kind of article. I would love that if you did that. So what I'll say. Yeah maybe we can talk about protecting the brand podcast right. Yeah how about that for a night by the way which is actually really important. Because you know when I was preparing for new media summit just to listen finale podcasts. When you start going into itunes you can find Fi- podcasts at almost almost all have the same name yeah okay? So let's wait later. You can this wait for her to go through the real life example. Okay thanks yes. Let's do this so let's let's use a real life example podcast magazine to play further on Richie's point point there so for us to trade market. Do we do that now. Should we do that does it need to be done and easy worth the expense is like would we do. Well I mean I think you're talking about a brand ultimately that's what you're getting into it for us to be successful zestful. I mean you know yes you can wait three years or five years and find out if you fail and then you then you've saved the money but if you're successful I don't know it's it's I kind of see it as an insurance policy because there is a two step process to your question. One is when there's two ways to file one is I'm intending attending to launch and the other one is I've already been using it. You don't say very much to save like maybe three hundred dollars or four hundred dollars in a year and a half by so the idea of doing it be filing it before you launch. It gives you a year or six months to flush out what your products is GonNa look like what your services look like. Okay I can give you a recent example of someone who got referred to me and she's had a skincare line for three and a half years ears and she didn't and then all of a sudden she realized. Okay well maybe I need to talk to you about a trademark and guess what it was already registered by somebody else so for. She could go forward on her podcast. We also had to change the name of her entire product line. That makes sense because I bet you. There's trolls out there. Literally the waiting to see the WHO. It's going to be successful. I'M GONNA go train march in her case it wasn't that it was somebody already had it. And that's the other side of your question that I don't think you asked specifically with that mind but it's what comes up for me and when I talk about reinventing brand part of to me. What I tried to do differently is created description in the market for new entrepreneurs about the process? Because you don't have to worry as much about spending the money in the investment mint if you understand that you don't go out and file as the first step. Filing I say there are six steps or I have three categories. You have I you have to select it then you secure it and then you have to sustain it. Will the two biggest mistakes that any entrepreneur makes and why because they don't know and nobody tends to tell them you. I need to go. You have to search the market you gotta research and that there are professional searches and those can get expensive that adds to the cost in services. It's a little bit easier and you can kind of sidesteps some of that and do it based on what you find on the Internet. But if you're launching a product and you're GONNA go spend fifty one hundred thousand dollars on packaging an extra seven hundred fifty thousand dollars for trademark search. It's done by professional. Search company is a smart move right. I mean that's one thing so all I'm saying and then the second mistake mistake they make. is they select a name. The can't be legally protected anyway so they waste money on filing something. That's never going to go through. And they don't have anybody eight. That's expert enough to sit down and take them through that process so when you say you legally could not be protected would that be like gotten. Ah Give me an outcast. Magazine is not exactly a unique. No not neither name erred. That is true. That's true and so it's not the strongest but you have taken two words and put them together in a fairly distinctive way And it gets. I don't WanNa get too legalistic on your because there's exceptions to everything but The biggest mistake is people file so descriptive terms and I actually went under the. Haven't done it in a couple years and I'd like to update it soon. But under the Freedom Information Act I actually filed a letter a few years ago and Foia I did wow to get from the trademark office. What were the number of applications nations each year rejected because they're descriptive in? Its over thirty thousand. So over. Thirty thousand people filed for something. They can't protect. Is it like an adjective adjective. No adjectives are good. It's something that now. This is sorry but this is the legal lingo. Then you can spend getting the weeds on it. But but it's something that describes the characteristics quality or ingredients of the goods and where this comes it really does come up a lot on the Internet. Because I'm not judging it as wrong but people tend to want to get a domain name that describes what they do and overtime it. If a company successful you you can overcome that but you have to be really big. I mean in my little book. I won't go into the details but I'll just tell you if anybody happens to pick up my book read read the chapter about that whole thing and example I use in. Its case was a public as that came down and it's hysterical. I think it's one of the funniest lawsuits I've ever read. Because it was to companies with a really crappy name and guess what that crappy name is. IPAD and apple went to try to registered a few years ago and it turns turns out there was another little company that actually had prior rights to the term IPAD and they had used it but never registered it and they also clearly did not ever have a trademark lawyer. Because if you'd see the way they used it that's what caused him to lose so they come in during what they call the opposition period. First of all apple got rejected because it was descriptive. Like I said but apple has millions of dollars so they can spin to them. It's nothing to spend one hundred thousand dollars at the the trademark office to come in and submit evidence. Well everybody knows what an I pat is. And they're true that's true so the point of sharing this is is that those descriptive terms can become strong trademarks. But there's when you go to enforce it you are required to prove it has acquired distinctiveness which means you're saying the public recognizes. The word ipad is coming from apple and that usually involves something like a half a million million dollars of survey evidence. So do you know anybody that wants to spend that kind of money to prove. Their trademark is known by the puzzle. What happened to that case? Well this is why it's so funny. So apple full convince. The Trademark Office Trademark Office approved it. They did get rejected because of the other company because the company had no registration so they didn't come up in the records records but they decided to oppose apple and they had of administrative proceeding. Which is how you object registrations in the trademark office? It's something something called A.. T. T. A. B. and it went on for quite some time and I can't quote but it's actually quite funny. The courts just like chastise. Both parties already used how ridiculous they were in the proceedings but then they went through everything and the problem with the company that had the prior us was. They had no evidence evidence. They had never you when I say use it as a trade more. That's the other area we haven't touched on probably worse. Spend a lot of my time with new clients is actually getting on their website with them and talking to their web designer and going. Okay wait a minute. This is a descriptive use. You're using it in a sentence like as a descriptive term. That's not what a trademark is. You know because the other thing that can happen to a trademark it can start out great but then it can get absorbed into the English language if you really successful. That's that's the. If you're really successful cellophane aspirin a band aid escalator leaks actually band-aid is not ever been the hell to be descriptive and have a quick story about that. When I first hold on okay we'll get back to the band weight and opportunity for one but for to you just quick fast dirty? Can We trademark podcast magazine. And should we. Yes you should and yes you can. Yes you can ship your book roll fast. Oh it's very boring but I did. Our purpose is called registered trademark. The business owners. Essential Guide to brand protection. Okay and basically it is. What is it trademark? Why do you need one? What are the benefits? How do you choose one? You can register what are the pitfalls how to not get scammed. And how do you find a good lawyer if you need one so funny we were talking before this. So we We're releasing a new program called closing from the stage. And you were talking about how you were hanging out job. Our our who spent some time with me and he's he's in that program as well. It's so funny like I. I immediately go to in my mind like your stage presentation. Haitian like I got the whole thing down in my mind exactly how you would do it. Too Close fifty percent seventy percent of an aligned audience all day long like I get me. Yeah for you offer you to do like crystal crystal clear. So it's so it's so funny I mean you can't we'll talk already you get your aren't you. So there you go But it's so funny because as I hear you talk like it's so clear to me why someone would read your book why someone would take the steps that they need to protect the brand and then just simply how to position the importance of of doing so right so anyway. Long Story Short I WanNa give way opportunity that I've got a couple of questions around brand aid itself Because I know we're going to go down a little trademark rabbit hole here but wait. What were you going to say? Well this this is hearkening back so just if you decide to pick up the ball and ran with it but entrepreneur media is known to be very aggressive about anybody using the word entrepreneur Noor and so I didn't know if he had any thoughts on how aggressive they were. I don't know them personally but I have very big thoughts about the notion of what I call a trademark bully and there is such thing thing and my favorite story in my little book is which is really one of the reasons I bought by wrote. This little book is my very first client when I moved move to. La was a guy named Mario Salinas who owned milagro sound and Glendale huge gorgeous recording studio fast forward. He ended up selling studio mostly. I did music thanks. Thanks for him. Recording artists agreements. And all that stuff and he got was on a very first adopters starting an computer networking business to get people online and it was doing very very well and his first website was a picture of river and he had a picture of the river on it will. That river was called the Amazon John River and his domain name was Amazon. NETWORKS DOT COM. But he didn't think he needed a trademark. And here's another example of when you don't people don't often think about this part of it Win Amazon I launched and he launched it was coincidentally within like two months of each other and Amazon was only a bookseller if some of us are old enough to remember that they didn't sell anything else and when they both launched so so they were totally an unrelated fields but because he never filed the trademark and he never carved out his niche with that certificate for what he was doing wing. Yeah the computer part. He was relying solely on his common law rights. And this I'm sharing this because it's directly related to what I call the bully pulpit. He Space Ford six years later he started getting cease and desist letters from Amazon and we kind of ignored them for a while and and then they decided to sue him in federal court and they painted him out to be or the lawyers. Did they painted him out to be a cyber squatter squatter a thief and basically just put all the stuff in there. That wasn't true because he had legal rights. The problem was hey didn't have a half a million dollars to Amazon by that time. Um So if he'd had that piece of paper the WHO I've got him some settlement but it was like a fraction of what it would have been because I wasn't in a position position to put in half million dollars effort to defend him so Amazon did actually end up paying him a small amount now but it was almost nothing compared to what he should have gotten. And what's so tragic about it is. They turned around and buried the domains. They even let them expire. I just looked at had it recently. Just to say that's because they call it. Aws Now right. That's what they're doing with all their networks but even at the time when they sued him he didn't really have any registrations and that really covered anything close to what he was doing. But I tell you that because I don't know about this entrepreneur word but I'll tell you who's the most famous trademark believe all is Oh what was the job site and the Gulf War Monster Monster Monster. Mr Katie's still around monster dot com. No because not well monster cable went around suing everybody on Monster K.. Monster Cable became like this trademark bullied. They sued mom and pop. PUTT PUTT golf courses. They after I everybody what about the drink crate monster drank as a good point. Yeah I a a couple of them survived but they knocked out a whole bunch of people interesting so let. Let's go and kind of take it full circle here then in terms of I mean we're going to spend the time I'm the energy and the resources to try to protect a brand. And obviously we've now made the case for why you WanNa do that. Let's talk about the elements great brands. So in your mind show what what goes into creating really great brand. Well I mean Everything we've already talked about early on. That's after the fact right early on I mean. Obviously you're trying to find I. I love to use Nike as a great example. And when I called Creating Your Brand Dream Team whatever your name and your elements are going to be there just messengers for whatever you are going to put out and create that breath connection or that feedback that word of mouth with the consumer the idea being that when you see reinvention radio or you see Eh Nike. Whatever that brand is it's there's some mental association that's created in the mind of the consumer? Okay so the lobe. The actual logos your secondary. They're just the messengers. You give it meeting by what you do in the market right but having said that in terms of what's protectable There are certain categories of marks in debt are automatically distinctive. That you have no problem with and the two that are most ob the best sometimes the most difficult but once called arbitrary. I'm excuse me let's start with coined or made up. Okay a fanciful term. That's a word that never existed. That is like Kodak migita 's knitter NATO's nature ties is good over. Sharon monetize your things in the urban dictionary words in the urban dictionary like third words words that are made like Watson her made up. Eat well whom I respect the oldest of you heard bridge you know. What is she the heat? Oh my God look that one up in the Dictionary E Y E. Yeah that is like this. You WANNA age quickly. Just hang out with thirteen-year-old. Yeah I'm sure yes. It's a great place to find dog neto mode and my computer before I look at us not a bad one. Okay but but did you know the most famous the one of the probably the most old one of the oldest trademarks in the world in continuous use is AL toyed mints and it goes back to the eighteen hundred and the word l. toys is totally made up right so a made up name like that is fabulous because if if your product or service succeess now the exception to that is is if your property is so successful and revolutionary. It can be at risk unless issue really take care of it correctly that goes to my sustain element on the third side of the equation. Is You can become a cellophane you could become comments. An aspirin could become an escalator. Okay right but xerox literally an Meyer them a lot because they spent millions of dollars alerts not. Everybody can do that but they were. They put ads for years. Like don't let our trademarks go into the trademark graveyard or let it go the way of the zipper because the words Zipper for was trademark too but it became the thing itself right so it got absorbed into the English language because people the public didn't didn't have another way to refer to the product so it became the product the generic term for the product. And we'll does a lot like Kleenex. Yes I'm Fedex exit instead of sending at ups people's Goebel. Yep Yeah and I mean. Google doesn't have that problem because they have so many other products and services so they've it kind of very interesting and make me very nervous right so on one you know it's empowerment you. You know what I mean you know I can make a better choice and then real quickly the second one he is taking an ordinary everyday word and applying it arbitrarily. No better example in the world today than Apple Apple for fruit is generic but apple computers interest arbitrary and it's fabulous mark diesel for clothing can take but for diesel engine. It's a generic term. Yeah so in especially in the world that we live in now with a lot of the solar preneurs and a lot of the folks who you know our their own companies their own bran etc where they have multiple offerings products program services going on. I mean like I look at my own litany of things new media summit reinvention radio beyond nate figures profiting from podcast launch. Your podcast flash course thousand dollar funnel your empire what what is your what right. I mean like you you go broke just trying to protect all of those things icon maker right. I mean like what about your songs. I can't help it if you're really really. You can come too late. So but what what is a solo premature to do like you know what I mean like. What prioritize and uh-huh and what I tell all my clients is when they come to me? I I sit down with a plan. You don't have to do it all at once. It's like you How do you eat an elephant? One Bite at a time. I mean I love my little story of these company down in Irvine. These guys from one of the airspace companies Louis Hughes aircraft they left and raised a bunch of money and bought this little company back in the late nineties around two thousand and somehow I got called in to help them with a lawsuit on a copyrighted catalog and it turns out they had no trademark register. They had three trademarks and two had expired because they hadn't maintained him and So that got their attention and it turns out. They were building distributorships. All over the world and they've bought up every company in their space and now they're like a global brand making billion dollars a year and they didn't start out registering everything. We we do a budget and then we say okay this year. We're going to do these two things so we have four dollars you had dollars. What would you do? Do not let you go. Legal yourself a letter somewhere commands copyright. I'm still trying to figure out where that area somewhere opened envelope remember. What's inside? I think so. So where where would you start right so if you were if you were us what would you start with. I think you have to somehow look to some extent at what's the in game and this isn't true for everybody but I will tell you this that when if you're particularly well you could be. A technology. Company doesn't have to just be products but if you're a technology company or have a little food products company right right now and they just got a huge offer to buy out from one of the people who I am not going to say right now. He's there but it's a it's a pro they are. They launched in in a specific niche in the natural foods area and they got a certain amount of funding from a major brand overseas to help them launch here in the US and that company he's already offered to buy them out and they've turned it down because they wanNA keep growing so they're very good terms with but the point being that there's too inflection points for most companies and it's when they first get their first round of investment. So when you go out and you do a a you know a offer where they call it round day or whatever it this fund around around I get my angel investors or you get your real I slake investor that comes in I promise you the only thing they care about not the only thing now obviously looking at the product but when it comes to the due diligence before they invest that money they want to know what you have protected right and that's the inflection point for most young companies. They may go for three four two three or four or five years with not doing much of anything but then all of a sudden investors come in bannon psych. We want to own something. If we're going to invest here and then the other point is is time is when somebody goes to sell. It could be twenty years down the road food when purchasers come in. They're not interested they want to know. What are you on? What am I buying and that portfolio? VIP is what they look at so especially initially when you're in this world of personal brand which is I mean technically. That's the world that I that I play in and you know not that I'm putting myself of on the same level but you know people remers Chard and Frank Kern and all the same level so all these personal brand type folks there. It's a little bit tricky because it's difficult Colt to put a value and exit to put a value on an exit from a business. That is so single. Angle person dependent. Absolutely that's so that's why you're right. It gets tricky there. Yeah so so. What do you do then in terms of of creating value so that it's not just so single person dependent? Well I think that's where you I think about like in your case I wouldn't say you go register. All of them wants to spend a huge investment at once but think about what do you feel is either been the most successful is the most important and start there because you know that is an asset that program is an asset and. I'm not saying you even have that vision. But you know that could be spun off or souls separate and apart from you as an individual at some point can I guess her input or say something thoughts on it. When I look at all that stuff you don't worry about your name because that's your name like it is what it is? You don't worry about reinvention radio even though it's cool name because no one's going to try to put the word radio in with most stuff wouldn't even worry about new media summit even though that's fantastic and everyone should go to it and there's GonNa be another one in March coming up so sale arts night through the calendar tickets are on sale now and New Media Summit Dot uh-huh dot com is for sale right now But but podcast magazine is niche enough yet wide enough and isn't like I would start there. Yeah I would too. Because it's podcast is becoming its own industry. And then you're nailing down the product as a magazine. She's not in her head. Yeah who was it you had on his a guest who is so impressed with and policy policy cannot remember her name right now but she was doctor. I think Laurie Bar. Maybe you talked. She started the the thing for nature. Pass the Nature Path magazine Nature Breath. I don't know I was one of your guests. I'm sure I know what you're talking about. I'm blanking and I loved that episode because to me. That is exactly exactly what you're doing with podcast magazines. There was no no outlet for anybody in that industry to connect in that way. Okay so for Cheryl Hodson to help us then protect podcast magazine. Exactly so what and got right. So what do a two for one here and And and Richie wants to to To totally protect the word happiness. Have you heard of this word. It's like a unique were happy but then there's this show what like seriously like what what would it take. Take what would it cost. Well okay. I'm I'll tell you this. I charge a flat fee for for the application. What which is what charge and just not all that much and then I it's? Let's do specific. I'M NOT GONNA put my situation. I might raise my prices have. She's breaking out her little square card reader right right here and as and I noticed you have a genius network pen there so joe and You know the the twenty five K. jeans network. There's we gotta get that you gotta get that paid for right so yeah I actually just went to the annual event this year it was so awesome. This is great but chance of your question has has a hedging in any way it can be. Let's put it this way. It can be the as little as less than fifteen hundred dollars including your filing fees or could be four five thousand. But that's what I'm saying. It's not a one size fits. It's all when someone calls me in the first words out of their mouth are. How much does it cost? It's usually not a good fit for me. Not because I because if I I need somebody to have the mindset to understand it it's it's GONNA be different for everybody and they have to have the objective that they want to build something and protected and it depends to be very specific and answering that question. It depends if you have one category. You're selling one product and that's all do you need if you're selling probiotics and that's all you're selling. That's easy right cycle. Take me that long to search it. It's not going to be complicated. He's not going to be expensive. That's the low end of the spectrum. But if you come to me and you've got some new software APP or you got trainings. And you've got books and you've got podcast. This there can be anywhere from three to five categories up so true to the five pack right all right. Look as much as we'd love to. Yeah well we'll we'll make you a deal state. Thank you for that. That's Gary Too. That's why I drove down here. Something's got to pay for all that gas in California all right so let let me do this. I just want to give you an opportunity to share folks want want more information. They want to connect with you. Protect their brand a preliminary discussion. What what is the best way for folks? Thanks to get in touch with you. Or what would you suggest that they do well. 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Oct. 5, 2018: Discomfort women, Kyoto tax, Kumamoto cough drop, suicide damage and goodfellas.

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Oct. 5, 2018: Discomfort women, Kyoto tax, Kumamoto cough drop, suicide damage and goodfellas.

"San Francisco, erected a statue. So Sokha severed. Sister city ties, wait what no comfort for old women in our first story. Kill tow is now taxing visitors to its city on their accommodation stays. We'll tell you how much and why coming up. A coup Moto city councilwoman was kicked out of chambers for stifling a nagging cough with the laws. And this was before a speech? Yes, it's as stupid as it sounds. And we'll tell you all the details in a few minutes. A woman who committed suicide jumping from a building, hit another person on the way down a very sad and distressing and strain story later. And in our last story gangsters they're living larger and longer. Now how how about more exercise and healthier food as part of their benefit package? It's part of the code now stick around for the yakuza stakeout details at the end of the show. Hi and welcome to Japan this week. A quick recap of stories. We're following on the Japan today website for the weekending October fifth, two thousand eighteen. I'm Jeff Richards. Thanks for joining us and let's get right to it. Okay. Our first story is nothing if not contentious. It's a sensitive subject, especially if you're Japanese Osaka mayor Hitomi Yoshi motor this week sent a letter to his counterpart in San Francisco. He announced that he's ending a six decade sister city relationship with them to protest statue. Honoring women forced to serve as sex workers for Japanese soldiers during World War Two, the women are euphemistically referred to as comfort women. The statue was put up on city property last year by California's Korean, Chinese Filipino communities, a spokesman for San Francisco mayor London breed called Yoshi. Moore's decision, unfortunate and says, the cities will remain connected through people to people ties. I mean, that's great. Lillian saying co-chair of the comfort women, Justice coalition said, breaking the relationship over a memorial is outrageous and absurd. She said, it shows how a frayed the Osaka mayor and the Japanese Prime minister are about truth. And are trying to deny history. Historians, say tens of thousands of women around Asia were sent to work in Japanese military brothels during the war. Japan apologized in nineteen Ninety-three. But the issue has remained an open rift with its neighbors. -particularly South Korea which has strong memories of Japan's colonization from nineteen ten to nineteen forty five after a gradual pullback from the apology to pan. Government actually now denies that the women were forced into sexual slavery, citing lack of fischel documentary proof as expected. Japan today readers had plenty to say on the subject Toshihiro says, oh, come on Japan, wake up and smell the macho, no matter how much you convince yourselves at the comfort. Women never existed for lack of concrete evidence. You can't deny what really happened. Seriously, come clean admitted and accept it. War is never pretty, and people do horrible things to the other. It'll be a ton of weight off the Japanese shoulders. Well. I sort of agree with that. But more importantly, while not more importantly, but also macho is a Japanese powdered green tea. The type of the used in traditional tea ceremonies and quite high in caffeine. I suspect from that comment, Tokyo anger ads. I do not think San Francisco really cares. Furthermore, I do not think San Francisco will ever ask Japan to remove the peace park and large exhibition in he'd Rocha either. As a matter of fact, most inferences skins count me as one think the Hiroshima memorial peace park should always exist so that people may be reminded and hopefully never commit this type of bombing. Again, I feel the same about the comfort women statues. Now, we also dug in for views on the other side of the aisle. Dwight writer says as an American, I'm glad that the mayor of Sokha took the action that he did. The issue of comfort women is not an issue that seriously confronts the US San Francisco had no business in erecting a statue in their memory. If Japan Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan, and others impacted by the issue of comfort women during the war were to erect such a monument. So be it San Francisco's action in arresting such a monument was crude naive and disingenuous a common trait among Americans these days. Well, a very divisive subject, both the comfort women and the statues erected to memorialize them. What are your thoughts? Visit US Japan today dot com and let us know. Kyoto shops music comes in. Japan's ancient capital and very popular tourist destination. These days. Tow began leading taxes this week on visitors, staying at hotels, traditional inns called Rio Khan and private lodgings to ease problems such as congestion and improve tourism services. Guests will now be taxed between two hundred yen and thousand yen per night. That's about a dollar seventy five to eight dollars and seventy five cents US depending on the accommodation charge students and their chaperones on school trips will be exempt. Of course, the city is expecting to raise four point five, six billion yen annually through the tax and use that revenue for tourism promotion measures. Now just in case you're wondering how much exactly is four point five six billion yen. Well hey Siri, how much is four point? Five six billion yen in American dollars for five hundred sixty million. Japanese yen is forty million twenty nine thousand four hundred ninety four dollars eighty eight cents. Thank you for being so specific. Siri that's awfully reassuring kilt oh faces a chronic shortage of lodging facilities and illegal private lodgings aka Airbnb. According to Japanese government. You heard that for me have been filling vacuum in two thousand seventeen just over fifteen million people visited the city. Now, other cities have been following suit, come as our city will introduce the duty next April and the Fukuoka city assembly has passed an ordinance to urge its town to establish such attacks. Japan today readers have their doubts about the Levy. Nakano guy says the taxes meant to ease congestion, but that is the exact opposite of what the government wants, which is to double the number of tourists to Japan and one way to improve tourist services to make more affordable lodging available. This tax does neither. Spot on absolute Tigers. Tokyo dome calls the tax a bit of a slap in the face for tourists spending good money on travel in Japan, the benefactors of Japan's, boom in tourism, retail stores, restaurants, hotels are laughing. They're taking the prophets and putting anything back to support local infrastructure being stretched by the tourists. Okay, that I'm sorry that that comment just confuses me. I mean, how would he know what the government is spending that tax money on? And I don't know, maybe he's a member of the government. So why don't you weigh in Japan today dot com. Okay. A little political news for you. You may think politics in the United States is pretty partisan at this juncture in time, or perhaps your British or European and your consumed with the Brexit negotiations. Well, let's take a little look at some political news at play here in Japan, and we're going to give this one, the dignity that it deserves last November Kumo city councilwoman Yuka Ogata was at the center of a harsh controversy when she brought her baby daughter to a session of the city assembly. No, no, no. This week there was an even bigger commotion during a plenary session has got approach the podium for her turn to speak the assembly chairman asked what she had in her mouth. Very adult. Ogata got the politely replied that it was a cough drop. She had it because she didn't want to disrupt the proceedings at that the hall was. Mmediately filled with angry shouts of objection, including maker take the cough drop and eating and drinking is against the rules that those are my old men shouting voices. And that's your tax dollars at work right there. Ogata says she had been experiencing a cough in the past few days, so she decided to pop in a cough drop for the meeting. She probably didn't want to disrupt the proceedings and also didn't wanna wake up those leaping old assemblyman but rules, say members can't eat or drink anything during a session. So scheduled proceedings were suspended while a disciplinary committee meeting was convened. Actually, there is no rule banning eating or drinking on the floor, but more than second, this meeting took eight hours eight hours despite the fact that the whole days plenary session was originally only supposed to take to once again, your tax dollars hard at work. The committee decreed Ogata was in violation of a stipulation saying that members must. Respect the dignity of the council. That's another one of my old men voice and requested that she read out an apology drafted by them. Ogata refused and this further upset. The other council members who then instigated emotion for her to be removed from the meeting. Ogata was the only dissenting vote with the rest of the council, including its female members, all voting to have her removed. And so she was, you can imagine what Japan today readers thought. Well, don't imagine. I'm going to tell you been Tato calls it ridiculous. How many of these fossils are regularly sleeping while in attendance? I wonder, I wonder too. I figure any of them over sixty five or probably all sleeping and from maybe perhaps yes, these old fools obviously have it in for her for making them look foolish over the baby issue. They were just waiting for something anything to stick the boot into her shameful acting from people who are supposed to represent us truly ridiculous. We said in telling you that story, this is your tax dollars hard at work. These these people sound like junior high school students. This is absolutely ridiculous. I'm at a loss for words on this one. I can't. You know, I can't find my my voice. I. I think I think I need a cough drop. But when you think, why don't you visit US Japan today. Well, this next one is a little dark. It's a little dark and strange and depressing. You're probably well aware that Japan has a very high suicide rate compared to other countries in two thousand seventeen about twenty two thousand people killed themselves according to health ministry figures. Well, this week, one unfortunate woman added to this year statistics when she jumped from the eighth floor stairwell of a commercial building Incheon Juku Tokyo and hit a man below seriously injuring him. The woman died from her injuries while the man suffered a broken right arm. Police said there was no idea in the women's bag, but she appeared to be in her late teens or early twenties. The men who is in his twenties happened to be visiting Tokyo from Kitakyushu. The incident occurred in the Kabuki-cho red light district police found the woman's shoes and her bag at the spot where she jumped. Now, a curious feature of jumpers in Japan is that they. Almost always remove their shoes before taking the leap. Now they're a few theories as to why Japanese people remove their shoes before committing such a final act. But here's, here's just a few so as not to carry dirt from this world to the next because it's what they saw on TV. Here in Japan, it's a cliche way to indicate that person has committed suicide by leaving shoes on cliff for the roof of a building because that's what samurai used to do. I guess when summer had shoes and because they don't want their soul to stay grounded here on earth, that's just a little food for thought. It's a weighty story here and a weighty subject. But let's hear from Japan today readers tech hall comments. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, especially when you are so young hard to see, but there are usually signs of depression. Keep an eye on your friends. Absolutely. An very spot on. Prescient comment there. And here's a suggestion from Smith in Japan with the amount of people who do swan dives, this was bound to happen. They need to start putting up those safety nets. There is far too much of this nonsense. You'll still get people trying to kill themselves, but they won't hurt others this way. Personally, this is something I haven't been able to come to grips with living in Japan. Both the high suicide rate here and the propensity for people to jump from buildings and cliffs. I think that Japan needs much more mental health care and support in that regard. And perhaps less tall buildings. Thank you for sticking with us this far into the podcast. We're going to make it worth your while we're going to talk about one of our favorite topics here. Japan this week, the Coosa or the Japanese mafia. Now, one does not ordinarily associate these extravagantly tattooed and missing finger gentlemen as the type of people espousing healthy and long lives, especially for those on the bottom rung, the hours are long tasks, arduous, and turf battles with rival syndicates have been known to reduce one's life span considerably. We'll writing an OSCE gain, which is a Japanese weekly tabloid magazine Tomoyuki way. No author of a book titled yakuza life says that most gang offices are now keeping dumbbells and other gym equipment on hand and making sure their members eat healthy food. Now, no, you're thinking out there? No, the dumbbells are not the gang members, their actual fitness equipment. The dumbbells could have practical uses, of course, such as breaking bones or. Keeping the chimp era. Those are the muscle or the low level gangsters strong enough to do. So. The story also says, bosses are known to be real Gorman's. Some rank and file gang members are trained as full on cooks so they can prepare healthy dishes using the freshest vegetables possible for their leaders. Ozzy gain points out that the bosses don't have to do nasty things anymore, and they can just sit there and let the money roll in which makes for a longer and healthier life. Japan today reader, backpacking, Nepal admires their lifestyle, they sure are healthier than salaryman, gambling, traveling, sex, love style cetera. All with less stress than what most salarymen do at high levels. NCIS reruns a bit dubious about the story. Surely full body, tattoos and severing digits can't be conducive to health. Hepatitis used to be common as well. Oddly specific comment there and CIs reruns. But yes, I, I kind of concur with you just a, no. If you're if the. The missing fingers thing is a little over your head here in Japan. Japanese gangsters often cut off their fingers and gift them to a boss to show feel t after making a mistake. I guess that's pretty easy to tell who the dumbbells are. I need to cure a shot there and it sounded a little like something out of the end of goodfellas when they're cooking those wonderful meals in prison, but I'm not. I don't have a criminal record just so I just wanna get that. If you have some inside information, let us know at Japan today dot com. And that was a quick recap of the news from Japan this week. Just a note that we will be away next week, but will return on Friday, October nineteenth. Thanks to Japan today editors for curing the stories. Thanks to calm some econ for all this production assistance and bad jokes. Thanks as always to you. All of our listeners readers and commenters out there. Please keep them coming. You can find links to all of the news that has mentioned in this podcast in the show notes. So have looked below since the news from Japan never stops. Follow us on Twitter at at Japan today for all of the breaking stories you can tweet at me directly at at Jeff, w Richards, and you can join our Facebook page Ford's last Japan today for more news and comments because you just can't get enough of them. Of course you can and you should visit the Japan today website at anytime at Japan today dot com. If you have a question or a comment about the show or the website, where. Always happy to hear from you. Get in touch with us by Email at podcast at Penn today dot com. We'll try to answer it on another episode. You can get Japan this week at whatever podcast store you shop at or if you're listening on an iphone. Hey, Siri subscribe me to the Japan this week podcast. Would you like to subscribe to the podcast Japan this week by Japan today? Yes. If you find our show informative or at least entertaining, please leave us a rating or view on apple or Google podcasts from Japan today. Newsroom at g plus media in Tokyo. I'm Jeff Richards and join us again next week for quick recap of Japan's biggest and smallest stories sign our folks.

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Olympians: Hitomi Kinue

Encyclopedia Womannica

08:40 min | 2 months ago

Olympians: Hitomi Kinue

"Hi my name is maya sheba. Tony i am a two time. Olympic medalist in the sport of is and one of the authors of the kudo kids book series as japanese american woman. Who represents team usa. I am excited to guest host this episode and introduce you to someone who i think you'll be inspired by. This is encyclopedia will manica are athlete of the day was the first woman to win an olympic medal for japan. Her dazzling come from behind performance made waves at the first olympics open to female athletes. Let's talk about he told me keen away keno way was born on january first. Nineteen o seven in the okayama prefecture in japan. Her parents were wealthy rice farmers who could afford to send her to the nearby school from a young age. He noah excelled in school athletics. She showed promise as both a volleyball and tennis player before finding her true passion track and field while still in school. He noise set national records for both the javelin. And the triple jump the triple jump for those. Who aren't familiar is a sort of cousin to the more traditional long jump instead of leaping into a sandpit at the end of a long runway a competitor in the triple jump leap three times each time off of one foot before landing in the sandpit that requires great balance precision and strength keno way posted the world record for triple jump in nineteen twenty five the following year in nineteen twenty six. She set another world record in the triple jump this time. The record stood until nineteen thirty nine at the time keno way was dominating japan track and field. There was no formal organization around women's international sports. The official olympic games were not open to female athletes founder of the international olympic committee or was stridently against women joining the games in an attempt to quiet growing calls for integration. The ioc created a separate women's world games in one thousand nine hundred twenty. The second of the women's world games were held in nineteen twenty six in gutenberg sweden. There was only one japanese representative. He knew a nineteen year old keno away quickly became the darling of the second women's world games while we're now accustomed to young female athletes capturing audiences at the olympics this was an entirely new phenomenon keno is performance earned the hike while competing goetenberg. She said an official world record in long jump placed first standing longevity second in the discus and third in the hundred yard dash at the end of the games. Japan placed fifth overall with a total of twenty three points all twenty three points were earned by keno way. Just two years later. Keanu way was thrust back into the international spotlight now under new leadership. The nineteen twenty eight olympics included some female athletes but progress was slow. Moving only women's gymnastics and women's track and field were included and the number of track and field events available for female -letes was limited. The olympic organizers had excluded the two hundred meter race the event and distance cutaway felt most confident with. She entered the hundred meter dash in. Its place but miss qualifying for the finals. By fractions of a second determined. Not to return to japan empty-handed she entered the eight hundred meter dash. This was an unconventional decision. To say. the least the hundred and two hundred meters are dead. Sprints it's all about power. The eight hundred meters is considered one of the most complicated race distances since it requires a challenging combination of both speed and stamina keno. as coach. told her the trick would be to fight her instinct to sprint at the beginning and save some gas in the tank for later. But when you're used to running sprints that's easier said than done when it came time for the eight hundred meter race keanu way immediately jumped out to the front sprinting. The first half but as her stamina began to fade other runners started to pass her keanu fell all the way back to seventh place reflecting on the race keno is said it was in this moment that she recalled to use her arms when her legs were tired struggling to stay in the race keanu swinging her arms higher and higher pumping them above eye level just like her coach said her arms helped power her body as she gained ground on the other runners in the final straight away a last fifty meters of the race she pushed past her exhaustion and thrust forward to the finish line keno way won the silver with a time of two minutes and seventeen seconds. She was only point. Eight seconds behind the gold medalist cutaways time broke the standing world record and remain the record in asia for more than twenty years with her. Come from behind second place finish. Keanu became the first japanese woman to win an olympic medal with cutaways newfound celebrity. Status came sexist critiques from the japanese. Press at five seven. Qa stood taller than most japanese women. Reporters frequently cast her gender into question asking keno way if she was actually a man or if she was worried sports were making her body too masculine despite these sexist attacks. Qa kept competing in nineteen thirty. She returned for the third women's world games in prague there. She maintained her world title in long. Jump finished second in the triathlon and third in both the sixty meter dash and javelin as a result she plays second overall in the individual standings following the close of the women's world games. Qa competed in twenty events. in one. Week i in seven events against poland then six days later in another six events against belgium the following day. She competed in her final. Seven events against france over the course of this week keno as versatility power were on full display but her dynamic performance would also be the end of her career. As a result of the physically demanding schedule of these european competitions. Keanu returned to japan and was hospitalized for pleurisy. She died from pneumonia on august. Second nineteen thirty-one. She was twenty four years old tune in all month on encyclopedia. Woman to hear about olympians to get manica in your inbox. Check out the will manteca newsletter. Follow encyclopedia will manteca on facebook and instagram at encyclopaedia will manteca and you can find me on twitter and instagram. I'm at maya she bhutani. Thank you so much for listening. Have a great day.

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Tratado de oracin y meditacin: reto dia Domingo

Meditaciones sobre las excelencias de San José

05:19 min | 4 months ago

Tratado de oracin y meditacin: reto dia Domingo

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Behemoth: Nergal  condenado por ofensa religiosa; msico ir recorrer - Ritual Metal Mantra #013

Metal Mantra Podcast

10:46 min | 5 months ago

Behemoth: Nergal condenado por ofensa religiosa; msico ir recorrer - Ritual Metal Mantra #013

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