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Ep 2.29: A-League crash course + Timbers GK Steve Clark interview

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Ep 2.29: A-League crash course + Timbers GK Steve Clark interview

"Seems Army episode? Two Point Twenty nine folks world has gone crazy. This guy may or may not be falling on our heads since it hasn't landed on me. Yeah hopefully not a new for the show must go on to Sam's Army's back to scratch your soccer content each for another week and hopefully more weeks to come. You'll promises on that. Unfortunately anyway this week given the strange times you know this bitter all of them are all around us at the moment and due to the simple fact that there is. There's no soccer going around Pretty much anywhere in the world. We're GONNA go through a little bit of weird format this week We gotta we interview coming up with the with the Portland Timbers goalkeeper Steve Clarke which which ought to be great. But we're GONNA start in a very unorthodox manner we're going to go on the other side of the world. We're GONNA talk to Adam Peacock of Fox sports in Australia and get a little bit of sense of what's going on with the alias. Adam how are you doing today good? I'm actually looking forward to a couple of days. Tom Watching some football law. Which in this current climate Pretty much removes me from the planet that annoyed nowadays and on another planet. Because IT'S A. It's a way Tom Hinchey. We tell him. Isn't it very strange very strange? And this these are the Times that you really need sports. Distracted from all that's going on in the world and yet yeah we just. That's that's what sucks about this whole thing because it's put politics to the full front cancelled all the fun stuff eight again. Donald restaurants concerts. Sport is just put the time to focus on something. That's not die. We locked to try and ignore well. So that's a good sorta segue. So what is life like in Australia at the moment? You guys are you guys under some St Martial Law or anything like that. Not yet not yet. It hasn't been tipped on tape than entirely changed but there Sohn's that will definitive songs. Law Has Changed Canal and has totally changed Not really at why of locked for instance. It's an SAR decided to especially for you. You're losing an old incites of the US It's about eighty five degrees here in Sydney Tonight. Undeclared in the skull. And after this. I'M GONNA get down to the beach for swim. So it's it's it's not changed my wife in that regard too much but certainly services and the white people up preparing it feels like he the government which is a conservative government. Here and Astrid is. They're trying to wind up the economic rationale behind every decision. I Mike as well as the health benefits and that is the main thing that I wanna get through this as well as they can and Liu and loses few lives as possible. We've we've lost a handful but it's it's growing at an exponential right. We don't know where it's going to end up. Thankfully a health system is outstanding here in Australia by by standards of other parts of the world. But if feels like the scaling down to a point where they might be a point where we need to go into total lockdown and then Skyla up slowly. They're not just GonNa go bang everything. Stop Getting Your House. Can't leave it hasn't got to that just yet. We're we're still going to build a normality along. Thankfully well. Yeah I wish I could say the same. We're we're like cooped up in in our houses at this point and that leaving at least for the next couple of weeks until we see what really you know how bad this is really going to get So what we need is a distraction. We need some sports need some soccer and thank God you guys down under are going to provide it to for us. Oh you know I know the Games are going on behind closed doors. I believe it. You know what's your sense of? Is there a chance that the league's going to get shut down pretty soon or not at all or are they just going to power through this? Yeah we haven't heard the the absolute truth in terms of truth what what is going to happen at the plan for win apply tests positives to cut nineteen. So that hasn't happened yet when it does happen more that do that pull him out and K WILL. He can slight from the rest of the group bull test the rest of the group. And if everyone's clear will push on with not sure order veges Charlotte Dan Strata. Why we're not sure it this way things. That have happened thirsty. Willington FIT TO CLUBS WELLINGTON PHOENIX WHO from New Zealand. Yes they play in. The Australian Competition Snuck Canada. Us Plight Melvin. Victory on Sunday afternoon in New Zealand now win though applying destroyed government said wrought from midnight and on as in lock six. Tom Any astronomy come back into the country has to do a mandatory fourteen decor at UN so Melbourne victory which is stock so through no fault of their on their now in quarantine. You Zeeland Zeeland has some pretty strict bar. Security lows died said sci-fi what they've done. I've actually flown Wellington Phoenix over to Sydney and the they now four anti quantum but they can apply the rest of the competition out at grounds in Sydney. So they can play the competition. It's all behind the fact that I wanNA play. The season right and broadcast revenue is dependent on giving a hundred forty guys broadcasters. They going to do everything I can. Within the parameters of the health The Health Ed Voss that they're getting a laws now That they can and can't do and by definition of the health laws at the moment and the strategy that can play against behind closed doors. Because there's less than five hundred people there that's the Lord that we have in mind now gatherings over five hundred okay. Well we're down to ten people at the moments of five hundred sounds like a real real gala hundred indoors as well. Well hopefully it stays that way. Hopefully you guys you know the the viruses not As big of a concern is all year deadly spiders. Shoot what is it? I said sharks and you said your friends so yes well. They're not my friends. I just respect this spice. I fall asleep one in the ocean. I'm not I'm gay and I'M NOT GONNA kill it. Yeah but I'm former snakes and spiders. And just ed just we just put it that way all right? Kangaroos and dingoes. It's pretty much all I know about Australia right there. Davick Koalas in wombat. Koala shrimp on the Barbie. Everything I know. Okay so now. Let's give people a little rundown of what the League is and what it's all built so we are well. Let's start at the top so there's eleven teams in the League. Correct me if I'm wrong on this because I could be wrong pretty much anything. So long teams in the League. You guys are about to expand at twelve is that right. Yep Yep Okay and so. The seasons ongoing you guys are basically twenty games into the season. It's a twenty six game season. I believe is that right. Yeah yes there's conferences as just one league eleven teams and teams basically the 'twas and then half the league plays another time a third. Tom Can automate to make up that. Odd Number of games from from playing Plank twenty two to twenty six and that's just basically the bean counters saying you guys need to have this games. You can't just do a balanced schedule of playing everybody. Twice pretty much did have playing everyone three times when it was attempting competition comfortable seven but the the addition of an eleventh time. Khanna skewed database. It's going to do a tour or not enough at Matt. I won't even give it a shot. Okay so then you have a regular season and again correct me if I'm wrong. So you're regular season that the the winner will be the premier is that is that the right word then. You have a playoffs. Where does everybody make the playoffs or just like the top few six tap six okay and then the winner of the playoffs is the quote unquote champion so the analogous parallel there to the MLS and by the way there are a lot of parallels to the MLS will probably get into that in just a minute? So the you know the supporters shield we have in them. Mls s the premier and then the MLS Cup champions so The as I just said there's a lot of parallels between the League and MLS. And I suppose that's to be expected given that these are two leagues that both started in the last few decades whereas Europe and South America. They've been going on for for eons. So Australia's been the aliens been around for. What two thousand four I think is when it was founded. Dozen five was the first year that competition thousand five okay. And that's basically ten years about a decade younger than less you. Don't call it them by the way just mls now more similarity so there is a salary cap. And there's no promotion relegation correct correct now is promotion relegation. Is that even like on the radar? There's like a cottage Just to get the lay the land in the US. There's like a cottage industry on twitter and social media of people who their entire life is focused on hating molest for not having promotion-relegation. It's just like this entire existence. It's like this is luck Shelbyville in Springfield. It's locked the the the the same thing but in a different place. Exactly the signed. Yeah okay that makes it. I don't know if that makes me feel better but it just it just feels comfortable that there's a different world on the other side of the planet. No problems that we did have met yet. It's we'd because it is the signed because those fans of clubs that are outside the franchise by system that the League has set up Which you can only really buy you wine. Which is which is unfortunate with flaws in the face of everything that facilities in other parts of the world and that's what view and that that's completely understandable but the fact is it's all just anti economics at the moment in terms of not having a national second division a mechanism to have promotion relegation. But it's an ambition on Nov every administrator in the in the GR. The guy at the moment the financials just stack up an account happen. Sure so you're expanding from eleven to twelve. Is there a lot of talk? About further expansion is. It's more hope at the moment than than talk. I think ambush is to get to forty nine And at the same time at the moment is big discussion about the the clubs. That won't in eventually setting up this national second division And again to every everyone folks it happens. There's not one football person if your local soccer person and Astrid. That doesn't hope it happens but the cold hard reality is. It's all down to financial constraints and with not at work itself out the next couple years at love to but at the moment of intrigue to for someone to come up with. Magic to make it happen. Yeah well you know. Obviously it's taken awhile in in the US and you guys are basically following the same path. It's SORTA seems like takes longer than you think. And you know it's a beautiful thing that sent you guys ahead of what we are at is infrastructure. And you guys having that Ability to have clubs in their own stadiums and get support from councils and have some rich benefactor's get on and it's just the fact that you've got three hundred people say you got a chance to attract that connor investment where here in. Little ostry twenty five million people with other sporting codes that suck up a lot of money in terms of broadcast revenue and sponsorship. It's hard. It's odd wait. We share stadium. So that's that's where you guys have got ahead and leaping ahead in that regard okay now. Put the League in context of the level of play. There's always talk of you know with. Mls everybody's always trying to make comparisons to the you know. It's similar to say the championship in England Northern League in England. Or something like that have you. You know. Obviously that's something you guys probably talk about since we talk about it Yeah where would you put the illeg- on the you know in the Pecking Order But just below that I think But yes I would love actually to say of the I. League champions cycle nail is up. Mls Cup champion But it's a the the timeframes why up because we greenwich champion. Mind you have yours in November Katie's oily December sir? I'm lester difficult but yeah I think. Air Standard is just a little below You've got that you've got that ability to draw out of Central and Latin America and South America. A lot more than we have. And that's a market and we should explore a lot more We're still based on getting people out of Europe to come he I think manipulate a little more worldly than that but I would prices in terms of standard a role Santa just below the analyst. But not fine. So you guys. You're not dipping into the rich veins of talent in Indonesia and Malaysia and Vietnam. And that's another one. I don't quite get it because I mean vitmain. Football moments system really good use program. But we haven't we haven't touched it so I can't work it out but it's that Eurocentric because a lot of clubs here in Australia Back in the fifties and sixties the the the clubs that are not in the leg but hoping to get in again that were set up by Italian Greek Croatian-serbian Servian immigrants So yeah that's that's that's that's based on. I think we've maintained as European rates pretty close closely. So you guys. Are you know we always? We always talk about the United States being a nation of immigrants. You guys are sort of the same thing right exactly the time. Just accent basically. You're pretty cool. It was well. Mutual mutual appreciation. All right it's another league itself. Let's let's go through. Give some give people a sense of you. Know maybe why they would or wouldn't root for some teams and just give give a sense of of the League itself. Let's let's maybe start with. Are there some we would call them? Big Swinging Dicks. They're basically like some teams that are just like you know they come in and they're they are winning trophies or competing for trophies on a year in and year euro basis. Yes yes that is the Sydney. Afc they won the first ever. I like championship back in two thousand five. Two Thousand and six ahead as they. I did a market. I had what your remember him. Matches the inaudible Mula Yep So he was a man Arrival to attract Alexandra delpierre a couple of seasons to come here. The Voice Bay known as the firstly on is blinking light just boys and united. They went away from having success but in the last couple of years. Have just one for fun so severe that. They've the most successful club in the modern era. In the short time that the league's been around but in the last couple of days and then. GonNa win the premier previous plight. This and I passed the post as an we'll get to the end and Mel victory the other team that have been around since day one. That have been really successful. Even though this as having their worst ever season they have been just a bed shied of shit this year. One of the better expression really allowed their standards but the biggest club in terms of finances and membership and leverage twenty thousand. When things are going well those two clubs the the blue chip clubs if you lock in terms of. Bang Round for the duration having success. Okay now are there. Americans love underdog story. At least we traditionally they say we do anyway Are there any teams that you mentioned Melbourne victory? They are actually intended at the moment. Ten out of eleven now do so well but are there that are basically at the bottom of the table year in and year out or is that not possible given the sort of Structure League now. It is possible because without salary cap. It's it's it's pretty flexible. So much luck salary. Cap made out of Plasticine all plato so that is mechanisms in there that allow you to pipe lies outside the CAP. Three or four pies outside the CAP Discounts replies. That have been there for long. Thanh of the discounts for young plays and can use all these things. If you want to and Melvin Victorian and also Sydney say Doodoo that whereas came up to central coast mariners. They've got an owner who doesn't really want to invest to the level of the other clubs which is fond because that's all they can afford to put in but I've had just this run of year after year. Been HORRIBLE AND AGAIN. They anchored to the bottom of the table. But there's not really guy. She says nine massive pressure on them to make sure they get better because they can't get kicked out of the League. That's attornal frustration. indicted win the championship. A few years ago I had a very good coach. Grandma would who's now in charge of the Australian national chain But after he left it Kinda slid and slid and now they've just been rock bottom for four or five years and feel sorry for them because they got loyal band of supporters. I get about five thousand two again. can't get our ideas not things. Well that stadium brought on the water and I find a town called Gospel and palm trees and is sponsored by this catch up company so they have inflicted the source bottles next to the palm trees. Look it up. It's called central custody. It's outstanding but type socks at the moment. Unfortunately I've always liked that name for some reason. That's one of the teams. It's always stuck in my mind when I hear them. I love it. I don't know if it's been you know the Asian Champions League or not since it sounds like they've sucked so it may not be from that but the central central coast mariners. For some reason. There's always been a team I've always known but they suck. I guess I didn't realize that. Okay so now. What are the you know? The big rivalries in the in. A-league yes. I've is this Two clubs that came into Sydney and Melbourne. After the I league star which has given us Dhabi's so Melvin Victory Existence Diwan It's called Milton. Hat came in but then they got bought out by city football group ruins of New York City. They've come in that call themselves Melbourne City. Sit Up this amazing training base in Melbourne. That haven't had success that at one one cup competition the if if I am but haven't won anything in the League for the having a really preciseness stays inside the second on the ladder so that I could get something out of this season's there's the milk Dhabi and then as the Sydney Derby which is actually on this way and behind closed doors. The SAMACHAR going to on Saturday from the western city wonders came in at that odd at seven seven years ago now and they actually two years after they can't be they won. Norlin a lot by one point. I I and in the year after they won the Asian Champions League so that on the continental championship which was just amazing. No ASTRONOMY CLUBS NEAR OR ADELAIDE. My funnel money but now struggling club has really got gone down that path and yet Since then I haven't had the success that mar wanted after starting so well but the Cindy Dhabi's wiser fantastic fantastic occasion. It's it's huge okay. Now is so Sydney is the you know. We said the big swing index so the western city is like the sort of the up and comer almost is almost like. I don't know I'm trying to make comparisons with the EPL but like Liverpool Everton come to mind On actually put it back to America. Yeah and in it not totally. Why because we don't have some Will Ferrell Owning Club Sydney. Afc L. I. Galaxy. So big names. Amboise been intent on that L. AFC wisened Sydney wonders. Amazing Amazing Game Day Experience. Even say he's a good guy experience but the way that I started with fans and really serve and Active support group. We call them down here. it's GonNa why because The draconian placing guides down. Here is vice. Weekly the fun place of stopped. The Fan in many respects is ridiculous in the League is any trouble for this as well for not sticking up for fans. It's so sad what what has become how thick comes back. But you're an atmosphere good wonders wisened City Wanderers. Guy Is is just fantastic. It's as good as anywhere in the world. When Forty Thousand People Packing Dhabi? It's it's great. I gotta say I as an aside the Australian people you guys know how to have fun like I only met. Probably you know twenty twenty five. Australians and every single one to a person has been just like you guys know out in front. I guess we're going to censor adventure. Put it that way your true. That's what led you to an island. Fullest deadly snakes in right now so there's a Melbourne city is Melbourne victory versus Melbourne City. Right is that adobe is well. That's the DOB as well and there's another one between Adelaide who in S- A site called South Australia And Melbourne victory. That was. That's called the original robbery Because that's a big brother. Little brother victorious at the strategy. The two sites. I'm dont lock each other in many respects so when those two it's always good Is is also Dhabi between Newcastle jets and central Kuzma remnants? I'm there to kind of look. Not Cities Original cities in In in the site Code USA files some confusing. Hey with all these geography but the point is You COSTLO and central coast a close to each other in a geographical sense side. That's Dhabi as well but a little a little smaller than the big city wants. Okay all right Now another way to to go through teams Rian pick teams for Americans is always you know. We look at individual players. You know some of the guys that have come through the League or are in the League now Who are some of the recognizable names that are associated with with some of these teams? Haven't spoken about Earth yet so I will now Perth Glory that other side of the country and basically as far away as much to other countries. When you're inside the country is luck. It's it's frigging malls by and it's not like America where you're GONNA leave new to La in this. This massive humanity through the middle of America. Here is like you you leave. Sydney and you look at the climate Dr and you say dirt for five hours and then you land in. I pretty much so I mean that's New Yorkers say we're going over Chicago and Kansas City in in flyover country they pretty much say the same thing about the US even though obviously they're not the same level as Australia. Yeah what do Y- videos I might as your words not mine. I agree how much Chicago so yes. You don't know what to fly flight the Simpson desert when you fly into post Now the I got Ken Starr who plays for Perth. Glory he's He's locked thirty seven now but he's still he still saw Goud Out of La some of the lower clubs in La Liga Lucky half I think in a few other clubs and yet he's he's just magnificent because he got on the pool and just so easy to watch He's a great player Wellington Phoenix that. I see that's one more Dhabi Perth. Glory in Wellington Phoenix Literally this This five hours time difference between the two in Saint Competition we call that the distance Dhabi between Washington took the hurry. The Distance Dhabi Willington who've had a really good season this year nightclub arguably the best football decided That go to Elise Davila who's Mexican who was It was signed at one taunt. Chelsea for a couple of seasons never applied But a fantastic little MICA again. He's he's great to watch on the ball. Those two guys along with Milosevic's Serbian who applied in the World Cup Champs Football in Europe as well He's does free. Probably the most watchable clause in a leg amendment. Okay now historically you guys have had some big names come through the the names that come to mind right away or like David via I think was there for a minute literally pretty much with the Melbourne city that was with Melbourne Takanaga. But it was a think it was still hot. I'm not my must have been mobile city. But that was still at their training. This is good story about the. I like this Dr Still at their training ground. It was still being built and it was at a price quote Bindura and it was like a just a like a local talk will most And flush for instance for US BATS. I had to put really been there and take off into him and so those those not a look of professionalism about the class but Tampa on one of the goals was just this Bush land like just rough estranged Bushland and one die. Apparently the big snakes just was going across the back apparently diabetes or win here. A war is going on here yet. W WAS HE L. Send Her Piero's at Sydney Dwight Yorke was Sydney Honda Japanese legend. He played a season at Melbourne victory. Last season has had some big knives. All remarry. I came down. The Brazilian legend applied for Delight When he was locked. Forty and Yeah I think extracurricular activities with a mind thing of of his appearance in the football so anyway whatever it gets them there. Whatever was it grew out. So that's the mighty all right now. Let's go through the eleven teams. Maybe I should have done this at the beginning but so let's go through the eleven teams and just say the first thing that comes sort of like you know ghostbusters when like choose the form of destroyer that that scene like just say the first thing doesn't have to be one word or can be one word. It could be several words. Whatever thought the first thing comes to mind with each of these clubs. We'll just go down the list on the table so we'll start with Sydney. Afc loved bother around in height. It by everyone else. Okay Okay Yeah they definitely the La Galaxy feel to them. I think what about Melbourne City? Melba rich boys because I've got the whole country funding. Okay Yeah I was going to ask you about the connections through mentorship saying fans should probably feel right at home maybe. Ps G fans should feel sort of similar connection. Okay Wellington Phoenix. It's like do they exist. It's like especially here in Australia doing the competition. But you say the play this year and it's like well. I'm glad they're in the competition. So yeah if I wouldn't say everyone's second thing but it's like Wellington they're just like the non-threatening best friend of of your girlfriend who you know really worry about okay. Exactly actually the Canadian. So maybe Canadian teams. Is there. A connection there with like you know like Vancouver Let's next go brisbane roar yet. They were very successful. But now Robbie Fowler is that actually the livable that yeah okay Heroin deformed Brisbane will I would win. They were successful by well known as more celona because the football at Clyde it was just like Pasta. Like pastimes into submission was degree to watch team. That's ACA yeah. It's but since then it's like a basket casually displays. I've got themselves back after a couple of lanes as it's similar to Barcelona no way they'd phone apart in part to the bass line in full of degraded Brisbane deduct late seventy one goals loss. Robbie Fowler's added something to them say some which is which is good to say. Is he ever done like the cocaine celebration since he's got over here? Not yet big. It'll come out something all right. So Perth. Perth Glory Yeah it like. It's almost like what about me type thing and lawsuits by with the premise. That the best team and they lost the the grandson feel super bowl on their own ground in on penalty service should have won both but That were our actually in existence before the EILLY got set up though I played in the competition before I ended that the NFL so a lot of history. Not much show for at the moment. Okay Indiana Aguirre at is they've been around for forever though that just sort of on the other side of the world never rhythm sort of the world view that came in nineteen ninety six ninety five ninety six so yeah been around for wall okay. Next is Western united new club. No one knows what they're really stand for the tried to come in and make it big not Alessandria Diamante the Italian plight in He's a number tons to Italy. I'm pretty saga to watch. South shooter mentioned him before as well. He's got watched but not sure what their identities yet. Because that have a hundred. This is the the crisis. Nitra strive football by. Let the mean on the basis that. They're going to build a stadium in threes Tong. Well then the Milazzo living at the back of a Caravan Amendment Guard grant ground. It's it's a bit ridiculous but the toronto-based okay so Gypsies of I don't know if that's a bad word it's not a bad word in the US. I guess. Maybe that's a bad word everywhere else. So we'll strike that okay. So like the c word in in England where we don't see that in the US okay. Adelaide Adelaide United. Yeah the The money so it underdogs. Yeah that they do well the young plies about alive Could you say good? Yes some pretty young players especially but yet they're They're a good football club. Full the I like the got a good home ground They ate their own. When things aren't going well lock at the moment. Like blow up at Hls within light itself to support us a passionate Which is good say? Drown yeah drama or they had a good season a couple of seasons ago under game all the former US Lana legend who is a manager They want everything about that. Was that was a great season for them. Okay sounds a little like Aberdeen. Back in the day when they had What was it Ferguson? But then they fall on hard times. I don't know if Adelaide has fallen on hard times or if they're just having a rough seat just rebooting team that's GonNa develop and financially supported that wine and sell young players. Which that's you want to get. This phone sometimes worked sometimes it goes. Southampton in you know you start. Struggling Western City Western Sydney. Excuse me Wanderers Joints if they WANNA be and I've struggled to last couple of Seasons Markus. Babbel was manager the former Liverpool buying Munich class on but he got sacked this year It was just not working so new stadium on that I play out Joint Big Club already. Even honey bane round seven years but A few places missing still in terms of thing what they wanna be now before before we get to the other three you mention Sydney sort of heaven that the NFC being the galaxy connection and western Sydney being more like L. Ese. Are there zor similar parallel there with like one of them being on the wrong side of the tracks geographically? Yeah we'll Sydney Sydney hugs the cousin So East is on the coast and Sydney. Say Play in the eastern top of the city and have been wisened. Sydney fans called him a Sydney say and his wit wisdom city and West. Sydney has always been this hopping. Talent for some rights applies in fact the majority of our greatest applies in strategy have come out of western Sydney because getting back to that The the immigration of the fifties and sixties and later on a lot of them went to leave in West Sedan started football clubs out there and it was was potus. They laws bicycler Western Sydney has always been a massive massive production area of football. And I've got a fantastic youth academy as well okay. Newcastle jets a the jets a like apart from the Central Coast Mariners team. That's conduct taper LoC dot. Hi It's cow. Robinson is their manager the x Vancouver. A bankable to me what that sounds really. Yeah he he had them. Performed says he's just started But haven't had a a level of success that connor they want vizier. Sports Mad town Newcastle. It's a regional center in in a strider and Haven't haven't quite some quite deemed the the regular success thing okay so Newcastle jets. You know for us. Fans obviously they've got the Newcastle Connection. Just obviously is probably random but but then the jets are synonymous with the opposite of success here in the US so the same but they could obviously the cold. The cold the jets because the biggest Air Force Base terms of all the fodder jets and everything in Australia is about half an hour out of Newcastle. So that's that night comes through that it's from losing season from the New York jets. Now it's purely a literal Melbourne victory yet successful and along the lines of Sydney. If you don't love them behind them just having a tough season one you could be if I get it right off the field That I do things as well as any sporting club in stride in terms of off field stuff and organizing themselves and sponsorship and at why they conduct themselves is just football stunt says like everything's off the field of coaching appointments but Big Big off season here today. Okay Okay let's at least well. Actually maybe less. But least central core mirrors laced the poor little mariners the the little trains that just trying to kill pit cooked once where the little trying to cook the Little Club. That could never the little club. The cat caught at the moment. But Yeah I flaunt six. 'cause look seriously at least hungry and have a look at the Google. It's you look at guy far up. It looks like Paradise. Hung grant has palm trees and sauce bottles of water behind it. It's epic but unfortunately what goes on in that little important grain rectangle is not right. Okay yeah it sounds like you got put on the to do list to see their see their grounds. Maybe not the soccer but see see. See everything else going on over there. Okay now so quick recap of the season Sydney. Afc You mentioned is really running out ahead. They've got a ten point. Lead and two games in hand looks like on Melbourne City. So are they. Are they the Liverpool or? They basically like they're winning this for sure. And Yeah it's very similar livable. Yes if I called the size enough now. It's it struggled to comprehend. How would give them the trophy a bit? Livable that fire in front And just levels exist this stability good manager yet some Sydney. We'll win the program you spike grandson through the Ploughs Different Story Civil. Autry that okay. We'll so that's a good question so in mls supporter shield. Have a a tradition of non? Excellence when it comes to MOLEST Cup. There's just you know the best team in the regular season just does not typically get it done in. The playoffs is at the same thing that happens in a league now. Generally I think about three quarters of the time that the premier has gone on to win the grandfather or might be a little less than that. But it's an unusual thing especially if the 'cause we just have top six An playoff system is three by six full Putz Fox. And then the winners of those gone by the one or two and the winner of those cousin plays in the fought. Seventy three weeks of playoffs. It's as hungry. Why ause is not none of that. Assist assist pretty much on and then done quickly And this year if we get to August funny little feeling we multiply them within. Wait just got back back gang. Just get on just used to criticize need something but the way that it's it's panned out Of the time is generally speaking the best team because they get hungry advantage as well which is huge especially in a place like a strike. The Travel Tony The air it's It's if you heavily five if you win the premise. But you're GonNa win the championship as well sure and for years obviously the MLS has a longer playoffs but also the home team at the home team but the higher see the better seed didn't have a huge advantage in the playoffs for many years. So that probably explains a lot of the support shields falling short in Yup. Okay so the basically Sydney's get a win the premier and they might win the MS Cup. Are there any dark horses that have been playing well? And you'd say these could be dark horses for the the NANOMOLES Cup but You know the grand final willing to willing to Provided Iraq with the whole coronate hit legal alliens. Yeah yeah there. There is one of the applies exit. Text me the other night and said Yeah wearing quarantine but you know we're working hard Jetski that's a quarantine I could give behind Chicago. It's twenty degrees and that's that sounds like a different world but yeah it. It's unfortunate because it could make it really hard for them because they'll be here the next five six weeks if everything guys the plan but yet they're a very good football thing very very good fulltime. Okay good we we got the big swing Dix Dr Courses Now. Let's just real quickly wrap it up with the the weekend ahead. So we've got central coast playing. Those are the little guys great stadium terrible team. They are against Melbourne City. You gotTa Israeli chance. I think that game is at coast. Could they is there a chance that I see? They've lost like every game in a row like six five six twenty however many games in a row. They've lost any chance they can pull up pull ups in this one little chance that would be at a loss weight central cars but I think Melbourne City Swat Because they're sick on the letter. That are very good football team. But the one thing that is happening is that The coach Melvin Cities The Frenchman. He's not traveling because he's A little older and he's worried about contracting something and take himself out of his garments. That's a little little span but I think Melcan city in that one all right. We'll hat tip there like that. Now let's let's see Brisbane roar and Newcastle jets anymore tips here. The jets applying at the moment there on a bit of Iran Then you got cut Robinson's come in and he's a sorted out in terms of in a technical sense And the applying with a bit afraid of it the blocks I e. Yeah whatever kind apply in in the next couple of weeks. I've read you the drawer of how to change things dramatically But y'all wouldn't if you're betting for instance would be betting against Newcastle jets at the moment that y sock drawer a win win when they fly Could be the white guy. Because they're on the APP all right now. The game of the weekend is clearly going to be Western. Sydney Wanderers hosting syfy. That's obviously sitting. Well I I don't know if we can say it's a game of the weekend. I was thinking Western. City was Wellington. Okay western city is not so great nothing of the weekend after all but could they pull the upset on Sydney is is like Sydney maybe battening down the hatches and just you know playing to conserve energy and win the grand final in a few weeks now the Sydney and West Sydney this weekend death. Oh this is the big rivalry. It's the W. Yes. This is a law absolute boy. It's the big game in the world this weekend. Easily it whatever happens Turkey Mont you might be able to pull into consideration but none. This is some this. Is the whole world watching this western Sydney have won the first two. This season one nil The first one was a bit of an upset. The second one night deserved This WANNA THINK SIDNEY. They want let that happen again. a they'll they'll pull through and I'll just be a little little too good because they're actually applying wisdom cities Hon grant but no one can come so tight away that factor totally point and I'll just on a match up it just pure matchup full and matchups in USA or benefit pulled tight and there's two games postponed. The I see the Newcastle jets in Wellington Phoenix Postpone Melbourne victory in Brisbane roar. I don't know how that exactly works. Wait I'm really confused because the jets were postponed within their playing on Friday. I don't know how this google reading the schedule on Google. Maybe I'm just all the jets applying on fraud egg. It's Brisbane right jetson Brisbane on fraud Google. Google it's now that's right because it only I met yesterday logged a that's just bicycling. I've got the President Drool and just tore it up and playing among because I've got to changing warranty comply to get in fit in where you can get into everything Just to get this season season fish. The last one Perth Glory in western United pursed because Western united have to go all the way over there and cursor at home and intense. Lots of thing. Being is a huge advantage. When you're talking travel west than you nodded advice. They'd Melvin senator. That's a long four and a half hour journey cold. I think those glory okay there. We go get the hat tips. We've got all the inside knowledge because I know for a fact there's GonNa be some There's going to be a little extra money. Spent on these thrown down at the online gambling windows for for these games this weekend. That's all I got. Is there anything else you know about the alien that we really need to know here in in the in the states now Pratt little league and and fatal has hit this weekend. The cost the government will probably change next week savvy. Smart billion we change you get to really focus on the excite hopefully hopefully goes off that a hitch in the games that Godin because it is a good product. Look it's been a lot the MLS. It's not it's not it isn't it. Isn't premier like it's not that standard gotten one. Get atten support you. You live with product To the bitter. What's around you because if if people got against people engage in gyns that just hot Z? Awareness of the sport in that Particular Country Australia in America aside similar intensive football culture. It's copy a bad thing. Well Adam honestly can't thank you enough for forgiveness the the lay of the land here for for A-league and blessed blessed the League's soul and Bressler for for giving us something to watch this week. We really need it. Obviously wish you guys the best luck with the seasonably do get through obviously hope you continue to be safe void all all the snakes viruses and everything else coming in over there and you that was nice but um stay healthy is as best you can and hopefully everyone can get through this and have a greater appreciation for what's really important in the world. I'm in which is tied him winning a trophy some day in my miracles. Miracles Laughing I respect that all right guys we are back with the lace and gray's interview. We're saluting one another at the moment. So I'm back with Eric. Eric who you guys know and love. And this time. We're here with Steve Clark of the. Let's see Portland Timbers Right now. The starting goalkeeper. We'll get into goalkeeping later. By the way we didn't talk about this an Intro goalkeeping and me. We sort of oil and water. We'll get into that later but it's great to have you need me to very well. Sam How are you man? I'm great I'm great. The world is still still going. We're still alive so I guess that's Great. I don't think I have symptoms of Kobe. Nineteen so yeah. I got no complaints so first question. Let's let's get right into this. How do you to know each other? I know you guys go back a little way. So how do you Steve? You take this. And then. Obviously Eric can correct you all this thing. I was in Norway for Four Seasons and I signed with the crew in two thousand fourteen in my first captains practice in Columbus in the winter before the season Eric was aired was there and the crew and we kind of became fast friends before you know it this guy. We're having like you know we're going to the movies. He's coming over he's trying to. He's trying to date. My roommate at the time splash surprise and came pretty close friends one of my one of my best friends in the world. So it's kind of funny to a podcast about my career with him on it so eric. Now he's right day. Movie dates a lot of Thursday night football with spiked spiked whiskey insider. What ABOUT PORTLAND? Actually you guys. We should talk about this before we actually get to the important stuff steve. So you're in Portland. Obviously Seattle really the epicenter of what's at least the West Coast if not the US for the moment anyway. So what have you really experienced some serious whatever fall out from that Honest Oregon doesn't have any cases yet so we're just kind of I mean I haven't left the House and besides grocery store in like three or four days so we're just playing it really safe. Obviously it's a serious situation so we there's not really money signs of it. I don't know about in Chicago but Portland's pretty shutdown. I think people are just basically like bunkering into wait and see so that. That's it. I mean we've got groceries. We got food got some wind. We're good to go everything you need right there. All right So we'll we'll probably work our way back to Portland here eventually. But let's start with your career. Let's let's do this chronologically so it sort of makes sense in my mind anyway. So have you have been through a lot here. You have been a lot of places played for a lot of teams lot of cool experiences. Let's start at the beginning at least near the beginning. Let's turn college where you want to start? I mean sure sure I mean as you said Dude. I've been around. I mean this is my twelve season so I played a whole bunch but I Know Eric and I were talking before. I mean one of the the the stories. It's following me around for the most part is in College. I I was a redshirt. Sophomore I walked onto college and You got evicted from my apartment and at the time my student loans go through so instead of asking my parents for money. I put up the tent in the woods at Oakland University and we had like a little camp out for three months until the university university found out about it and we And I had to had to take it down but we had little sing alongs back there. We had a couple of little. Get togethers back there so it was kind of like what we're we're kind of started my vagabond days living in ten at Oakland University playing soccer with with with with other people or just just you I mean it was primarily me but we had like it kind of became a little bit of a following. I mean this is back before social media but people just kind of like cruise down their openness. He has a huge campus. There's a lot of wooded areas and IT KINDA got out. I had a spot down there so people would come down. You know. I had a good Tara back then and play the guitar. We'd have little get togethers and it got pretty cold in I ended up. I ended up ended up moving out about like November. I had a good two and a half month. Run for sure so you got to set the set the scene for me. We got a little crock pot going. We've got a fire we doing in my mind. There's a fire but there was no fire in reality. It was just okay. So you're talking about woods on campus. I found like a code that was hidden from everything After I scattered I literally went to the store. Bought a tent. Set it up and put blankets down there. All my clothes in my car and I went through semester. Basically living in the woods like camping out. Wow I mean yeah I mean I knew you did that but the details are just astounding and we had I mean and it was Kinda like it kind of it was funny every day and finally the way I got caught was my assistant coach. Eric Air Poke but he saw me walking out of the woods like walking up to train and I was a little late one day and he was like what are you doing. And I couldn't hold the smile in it was like I've been staying in a tent there. I had a tarp. I didn't have a tarp over the ten. So it was like you know rainproof. Did you like Brenton rose back? Was this like you know man? I mean I'm not sure there would have been you know you've ever change in the woods. You know we were we. We had a couple of little parties but it mostly just new sleeping. We had a kid who would love to campus. Well so there'd be two or my Buddy Josh Mahoney. We had like a group of US sometimes. We like crews out there hanging out then they would piece out and I would go into the going to the ten times amazing true by the way that is one hundred percents your story that's verified by many people unreal in Oakland. So this is in Michigan Emma Right. I'm at Michigan is that's right. It's a smaller division. One school like North of Detroit and Rochester Michigan. We had a when I was there. And they're still quite good solid d one program in major But when I when I was playing there we were. You know one of the top schools in the State. We loved it. We would go to bed with Michigan Michigan State. Yeah so so Steve to Kinda go back to the series of smell and I think car from the same cloth how many scholarship offers did you have coming out of high school. Yeah I mean I I had a small one from Cincinnati but Odyssey. Tuition was like thirty. I mean so expensive so I base. I walked on walked onto Oakland. That was back before I walked on and then I sat for two years and I played my last three years of eligibility and did quite well and then the rest decision from there okay. Let's go through that history so you you know at what point you know an Oakland. Did you realize you know what I'm GonNa do this professionally? I was saying I was so one track minded and if you know me a little better you kind of get still this day. I'm like pretty a pretty goal oriented. I was convinced since I was like seventeen. I started telling Mason Michigan. I was going to turn pro like and I think people took the particular back. Thought I was area. Inner cocky but that's the literal truth. I mean as soon as I stepped onto Oakland Versi as a redshirt freshman. I was like no. I'M GONNA throw it was just kind of I mean it was like a talk itself into existence type thing but that's the way it was boy it obviously as you've alluded to a couple times like by the time I graduated. I thought I'd done well enough to get a combine. Invite famous comment that it happened And then I went. You know that. Okay we're now in two thousand nine went on trial in In Norway quickly way before everything going on the Intel's nine It was kind of a wild story. Wade. North team a second team Norway. I was only there for three or four days. I basically like gold the ripcord instead. I'm out this is to. This is too far north. I'm not really enjoying this. And it was a t- I mean back then. I didn't even bring laptop to go abroad with. I had no idea what it was doing. I just jumped on a plane and I ended up in like it was dark almost all day long. There was like two hours a light at this club my first club in Norway and then I came back and went to Salt Lake In the preseason two thousand nine there were very good team they had Chris Sites Nick Raimondo. Kyrenia CH- I stayed there. That was before the preseason shortened. But I was there for the majority of preseason I got let go right at the end So now we're talking in two teams down and then I got quickly. Let go again. I went from Salt Lake into nine to Miami F C which is now defunct and brought back to life. Okay they let me. They let me go. Then I went to Real Maryland now defunct in the US. In April two thousand nine. And before you know it I was I was four teams down and actually my first year. I mean I was getting let go left and right was it was Brou- you're okay and then so you then ended up eventually back in Europe correct. That's right so I in August I I Simon Charleston battery. Okay so I finally got called like as a replacement goalkeeper. My first contract was two hundred ten dollars a week per diem and it was. I could have got let go at any time. And that was August of two thousand nine but I was jacked because I had been out of the game. I had really started. I really made it but I was like kind of like a sub goalkeeper for Charleston battery on. But when I was there I was pretty convinced that I needed to go abroad. Like it was just this is back in the USO. Ten clubs. I think in the USO. One back then maybe eleven and it was. That's when I decided right there. I'm going to go abroad and so you ended up. Did you end up back in Norway? There's there's definitely a story here. It sounds like you made it this. This going back to your vagabond days. Perhaps and in back what were you doing backpacking through Europe? And you ended up somehow getting contracts more absolutely. I mean okay so I'm in Charleston basically how it would have been Charleston right and like I said yourselves changed a lot back then. I mean these guys were just party and heart so I kinda went first weekend. I thought it was gonNA get let go. They kept me on. And these guys were they. We had a couple of weekends off in some of these guys. Were like two days at the bar and now. I'm like the young rookie tagging along having a good time before you know it. I'm thinking to myself. This is a dead end road from me. If I don't get abroad then I'm Gonna I'm not GonNa make it. So December I left Charleston battery I trained with Bradford City in England. I knew a guy so I ended up training league to England in December of two thousand nine on my way to Norway January and I got to Norway and I started cold calling deeps like one after another nice. That's wild I mean. That's that's what it takes. I guess it worked ended up with so somewhere. Fuck yeah that's crazy so steve. How did you connect? How did you get connected with some of these contacts? I don't understand how that works. Yeah I mean I just Kinda got lucky. I mean I'm very good at never. I've just got lucky dude. I just call people up and people answer their phone and I knew a guy who was the chief scout for brand city and they they Bradford City was leaked to club. Obviously they used to be a bigger club. I think they're still only to now. They have a big stadium but They were like yeah. You can come by well. I was training there and they thought that there was a mixup. The manager thought that I had a passport to play in England in before you know it. They're asking me to play in a friendly and I'm like I don't have. I'm not allowed to play here like I had to explain it. They were holding the bus for me at one point when they're trying to get me to come come to a friendly and I couldn't make it and it and eventually I realized Norway was the place for me to be And I had friends Norway and I got to Norway of staying at their house literally just cold calling teams like. Am Steve Clarke. I'm from the US. Like I was at Bradford City Can Get a trial and starbuck at the time picked it up where you ended up with stomach was the teen. They've at first they were in the league and they were a big team at the time. They played in a huge arena. You know deep sense. Fallen off a bit with the financial troubles but I train there for four weeks. I thought I was going to sign a contract and at the I went up and took a medical at the last minute. I'm in the GM's office and they told the contract right. The last minute and I was just like gut it now. Eight weeks into a European trip and I'm sitting there at starbucks who's in Europe League a big club and right in the jams office after medical doctors. They pulled the contract. Was it dude? You have like a heart murmur or something. I mean I just I. I couldn't like together. I was just devastated. I just was like all right man like I. I kind of like cold shoulder. Gm walked out of his office. They're like what would you still want to watch film your friendly and like no no fuck off. No I'm Outta here. You know like in then I ended up calling fos my friend. I was about to fly around. That was basically it for me. My friends like let's give it one. Try and he knew he knew a guy at honef ause and we got to hold the goalie coach and the coach called manager and then they were like yeah. We'll give you a two day trial and I took a bus. The next eight hundred dollars. I mean Stephen that crazy shit works. Imagine if you were just called it well. I couldn't be honest. Most people would've yeah. It's that was the moment where it was like. All right. That was one of the. I mean I've had a few times where it was like. Look I'm close to being done but that was. That was a time when I was really close. Man So worked out at honef mispronounced for sure. But yeah how'd it go there now? You gotta you gotTA I ended up. I ended up trialing and and signed I ended up trailing in. Signed two days later which was a big deal for me. I mean I signed a deal at the time that was like one hundred forty grand a year and I had made to ten a week like the following October so it was like it was a pretty big jump for me and they were in the first division in Norway and But also the level was a lot lower than I was used to even in the USO with newly promoted team. And so I that first year I played three games. I got injured. I sat on the bench for a whole year and it was pretty difficult. You know didn't really enjoy. The Norwegian live didn't really settle was about to come home and then they got an. We had a new coach. Took over and hunter foster my second year and that's when I took over as a starter. We promoted the next year after that And that was in the year for two years and by the time it came back to the molest I played a ton of games. I've played a few games and kind of cut my teeth over there so from going from two hundred ten dollars a month or week or whatever to whatever you're making hundred forty thousand or something it at horrifies was the first thing you bought when you like were suddenly like you know rich Man. I wish I was better with my money. San I wish I. I'm looking back now. Looking at the dip the market today being like I wish I had some of the cash to invest but I I just bought a whole bunch of stupid stuff. I was just like shopping for November. I bought a watch. I've never WANNA watch my life was like. Yeah and you'd like one hundred so I mean I wasn't necessarily like wealthy like one hundred. Forty grand is not like a bunch but to me at the time at twenty three. That was a bunch of money in so I was definitely like leaving high on the Hog. Fisher enter Bro. Get a little bit up a little bit. Go a little bit of Dough. You start buying the same way. I have never made a hundred and forty but when I got off that forty two thousand minimum contract and Columbus ups graduated that Chicago money buying random shit to or not. I mean I think you got. I think you gotta go events and they deserved it with all the stuff but I was like I look. I didn't have two nickels to my name since I was like sixteen. I had never had money so for me like you know walking on as a college kid to having money it was fun. I had a good time. I mean you're living in a tent in College. Now you get right. Sam modern-day rags to riches story. Let's go they're gonNA they're gonNA make a movie one day and it's going to be Tom. Hardy playing Steve. It's going to be unreal. Mardi data merit was the original road dog back into Europe. I just kind of CO tailed and dude. I definitely so I talked. I Know Jada and we had him on the on the program a few months ago. And Yeah your story I definitely send some parallels there you know what fuck this. I'm just GONNA go to Europe and make this happen and you actually did so. It's pretty Brahim like looking. He made it obviously a little farther way idea but I played against him in two thousand fourteen salmon and I grabbed. The game was like dude. Thanks for what you did like. I did it as well. I don't know if you know that backpack through you know hearing your story just like look I can do this and I hope I hope more American kids who aren't getting playing time in the MLS go like why why why stick around and not play. Why not go chase life the way that I did? You know it's just you know you're going to end up somewhere. Maybe not where you expected but somewhere good to go to so then you obviously had some success for honef loss. But how'd you decide you know what I'm going to come back to the states? We did the two thousand twelve year. I was named best eleven in Norway. Two thousand thirteen. I had a strong year. I wanted to go to my first choices. Go to the TUNA SEGA or Belgium or try to some somewhere mainland Europe. But will people don't get is. It's just so difficult to move throughout Europe when you're an American it's just really hard especially in Germany where there's you know. There's a ton of good goalkeepers so I I was really dead set on that and I just got a call from Gregg Berhalter. Like of my agent was okay. Gregg berhalter taken over Columbus. Like he wants to talk to you greg calling. This question was to book Greg Fashions. So Steve Tell me what type of goalkeeper you are said to me. Like no no intro. It was just like what type of goalkeeper are immediately like. That's what I love about Greg. He just hits at the heart. You basically I WANNA play. I WANNA play like a poor man's man Manual Noyer and it was like that's good. That's never forget it. He said that's exactly what I'm looking for now. Michael J. Going. Well let's start. Yeah you're right. He brought the poor man's noyer back over to Columbus. You would you think would transition like playing in Norway and then coming here and what was it? Two thousand fourteen or thirteen fourteen. I mean that first of all being back in the states after who's abroad it's it's an incredible feeling to be back home and also that two thousand fourteen was pretty legendary with like a. Lotta great guys. Eric Eric. Josh Williams just in Maryland Ethan. Finlay hector humanistic. We had a great group of guys who are coming out every day but the MLS is a big stage. Compared to where I was playing the you know the HOOPLA around the Games the American at you know fireworks and fans and also the players are better obviously in them less than they were in Norway so I think it was a step up for me but I I certainly hit the ground running for fourteen. Yes and we used to just ball game in game out and then also used to train our asses off and then we'd probably literally go to the bowling alley four or five days a week then hit pool after that accompany with maybe a cocktail or two and then continue to beat ass so yeah we just had a blast like st said. The commodity was stupid. It was Steve's first year back in like Steve said earlier. Show we we all pretty much. Hit it off pretty quick and I mean that was. I think that was Greg's first year as well Steve. We went to the playoffs. It was absolutely. It was a hell of a year now indefinitely. The other part of that to Sam's Greg Berle Ter- I mean. He was a really great coach to play for. I mean you're talking about a guy who was like look. This is the vision for the team. In all of us ate it we ate it up like Hook Line and sinker. We wanted. We wanted to completely and it was a lot of fun. We we felt like we were build something and we made the playoffs. We had a late stretch. Run which was a lot of fun and the off-field Shenanigans were also legendary when appropriate. But we. We definitely had a lot of fun. Yeah Antipasto takes Steve's point I think you know Berhalter Kinda took us by Kinda by surprise of what he was capable of and like. Steve said he gives a ton of ideas and it Kinda changed. Econo- change not only ourselves for the better but I kind of changed the league and kind of open. Everyone's eyes hundred percent a hundred percent change. Like I mean Eric you'll progress. It definitely changed what I thought. Soccer could be in an attacking way. It changed everything the way we're looking and that's like I know the national team. It's interesting because the national teams. Like taking some flack because the results but those who played for Greg can can agree. It's a real experience. That's all very experienced and I left there with difficult circumstances but I still have enough respect to say that look like it was a real experience. When you're playing for you. It was a lot that was not what was what was the. You know social life like in Columbus like it's not. It's not huge city but obviously there's a land San Sandwich Columbus Columbus man. I have a buddy unwanted to tell you this. I have an unnamed team on DC. Who's a very big Barsha Fan? He Calls Columbus the biggest of the MLS. That's awesome. I'm serious about this. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA keep it. He loves it. I think Columbus is a great stop. The roadshow Columbus is a great stuff. My wife and I we like when we were there. We were convinced we were never leave. We'd like love that city it's an incredible livable city. Eric Beck me up here. Yeah no I agree. Do when I when I when I first first of all when I got offered contract I was like I'm fucking signing. Immediately tell me where to sign says unlike Steve were I mean I just didn't have time -tunities I couldn't believe it anyways when I signed for them. I'm like man I never been into Columbus on. What the Hell is even going on over there and remember driving through Indiana and Ohio and also and Boehm said he pops up on what is this and obviously it's not big or anything like that but man like St said. It's a it's a fun city. It's it's very family oriented it's clean. It's inexpensive man. It's it's a young not a lot of good nightlife and upcoming businesses. It's just a great place to meet people. Raise a family and like Steve set. Honestly if I if I didn't live in the Chicago Land Area Sam I I would have no problem. Meaning that PAC shit and get math out had had that West reese that's for sure settle down. Columbus crew fans lists Levian. I mean if it wasn't for Ohio State Fans I've heard nothing but good things about Columbus but the fans difficult. Yeah that makes it difficult. That's right that makes if we're all of a sudden right all right so so Columbus. You're there for a couple years then you wasn't a short term deal. You headed back over to Europe leg. How did how did that come about? Well we Yeah I mean we okay so fourteen. We kind of set the stage fifteen. We just had A. We had a really big year. Obviously we went to them less and less outweigh wanted. A sixteen played a came back and played quite well. But my I mean my contract option was designed by Columbus. Just to put it bluntly and then I moved back to Denmark and then went there for six months. Did you WANNA come back to molest the full-time or you know what was what was your thought process there. Well I think when I left okay so when I left Columbus and you know and as Eric will tell you when I think when you leave Columbus at that time because of the way that we played in the guys we had it was I think it was really difficult for anyone who departed that team so when I left Columbus and not every teams like that like you grow to love cert teams you. You know. I played for DC united for a little while like I don't really have many. You know no not bad feelings but no good feelings for DC night but certain teams that you care about more so when I left Columbus I was just like look. There's nowhere I want to play I. I want to reset my career. Back in Denmark signed a six month deal with horsens Denmark. And I did that because I wanted to get free in the summer. Transfer window makes sense makes sense. It was like a relationship. You basically broke up with. You know your sort of your girlfriend girlfriend and your little heartbroken see you headed overseas guy shit together and had a great way to put it. That's right I took a step back although never been broken up with but Yeah that's right I would. I would say that's right. That's right you don't you don't get dumped and I went and I went abroad. Yeah Steve. You're one of the things that I've taken you as as a friend and a competitor as your mentality because at the end of the day could've been easier easier for you to settle for Shit and Columbus. But you didn't but you didn't do your whole life and again as you've proven all along your back flourishing for one of the best clubs and MLS. So I think it's frigging awesome. Obviously all that stuff is giving you stuff to grow and and a lot of juice to take with you but I think it's awesome. Yeah go ahead okay. So I mean there's lighting their thanks Eric for the segue that you're gonNA lay up there so okay so in the MLS cub. Which is the famous mistake. I made in the first minute was like a you know part of the reason why we lost the game at home to Portland with is now. The team is playing for which is kind of like a storybook situation but after I made that mistake it was in two thousand sixteen. The next year is pretty clear that like my Columbus was no longer going to be the place for me to play and so when I was offered a lower contract in Columbus it was very clear like I've always been driven by the vision that I have for myself like I knew that if I was going to flourish in succeed in Biran now it was just time to go. You know what I mean. I couldn't you know there was no success for me anymore. Columbus as as much it was a great place. It soured very quickly. And that's okay like this sport. Things happen for sure. Obviously it ended up working out. We'll get to Portland obviously and you're doing great things. Dc united will walk through quickly. So you were there. What for you know a season or something like that. Yes there for about a season and a half. I left I got there in August. I left the next August to Portland but I I got there in. August was happy to be back in Denmark. And then I guess the most remarkable thing when I was there was that Wayne Rooney came in to the team and that was pretty I dunno surreal the see like kind of his effect on the team and the the man. I don't know if you WANNA call it manager. Because he's a player but this guy came into the Locker Room. You change the locker room like within a week. It was pretty. I mean I've seen a lot of stuff. Dude Eric you've been with me. We've been through a lot of stuff as a player in twelve years but this guy was an incredible incredible like team-mate. You know anything he said or was it just him. You're like well I know all of this guy's been through. I know all the goals. He scored all trophies. He's one is just him him? Being in was just like enough to Sorta like get you guys like change your mindset what that was definitely okay. So you kind of meet him. You're like wow. That's really one of the most. I mean you know I mean. What are we talking here? One of the top five players last ten years twenty years like he's he's a the English goalscorer leading goalscorer. He's got all those records so he has that he has that platform right but then when his actions back it up like he cared about every guy in the locker room and he would. If you were screwing up in the locker room he would just straight up tell you and he would call out like. I'll just call it like this. I don't want to say there was an unruly group in that. Dc Locker Room who were difficult to coach in Wayne was just like called him out after the Atlanta United Game we lost in Atlanta okay. I'm on the bench. Not even playing. We Lost Atalanta united in July. Or I don't know I think July. And he just like brought called the team meeting in called out the group and was basically like look. It's not going to go this way. And it's not going to be like this. So buckle up basically and not too many words and they left the team within a week to Portland but they went on to make the playoffs. It was pretty. I think it redefined a lot of ways like leadership in some ways and I'm being serious. I'm not someone throws at around a lot because I I consider myself pretty good leader. We Rooney is just like you know it's got a. It's got to be like other worldly to have him come in and assume it when when he's actually on the field it's one thing and you're sorta like well okay. I can see how you are a little bit. You know a step slower than you might have been but your touch is probably just insane and that sort of thing and the things you see in the shots taken. Everything is just like incredible but just like to have a guy like that in the locker room just to redefine. Everything is pretty amazing. Well I wouldn't have okay so there's been a lot of that gain in MLS. Like I was never like. Oh yeah the DP effect. But I'm just telling you what I was real like. He's he's he's a pretty incredible. Obviously you said like. He's getting a little older. This is player but look. It was incredible what I witnessed and I'm serious about that. Yeah I mean honestly do I remember what obviously we've watched you know tons of hundreds of thousands of these games. I remember we played them in. Dc and it was like a ball on the sideline. He always. He always came deep to get the ball. You know what I mean. Steve This guy these guys. These guys would rip bouncers into his foot. I touch flat there. He would uncork PISS missile. After piss missile about sixty seventy yards did on a row of the sickest Shit. I've ever seen in person and only one the only one I ever saw do like you. That was Swinestein. You're talking about Maserati and Ferrari over here. I mean who different different animals but do when he was stroking balls in DC. I'd just about passed out. I mean I couldn't take yeah. He's definitely clean clean. And and I think that I guess to quantify what he said. Sorry what he he. I think that everyone around him was just being the best that they possibly could at all times because he was who he was. You know what I mean. He just may be better around and the and I wasn't there for that long. I kept I still keep in contact. Wayne here and there. But he's definitely an admirable guy to look up to as you got Steve. You I mean I don't WanNa put you on the spot you can see whenever you want but you got any good any good rooney juice off the field or we would. Hey Man we. We had a couple of barbecues. You came to our house. He was a gentleman around us. Man I I thought he was a class act. You know eat them. I will tell you this I will tell you this. My wife was boxing at the time in a at a real by DC. I'm serious and I got off the gloves and I was like. Hey let's get out the gloves. Show me Stinger. Two Way. And he didn't do it he was like Nah. I don't want to do it. I was like all right. We're at the rooftop in DC. That's the only thing I got you then. Straight to to timber Timberland to Portland. And you've been there ever since. So what was the? What was the move like you know what was the vibe like going from DC? Which I guess actually I was thinking you were going from. Dc like old DC where the Bible is like nobody there you know the stadiums shit and all that you're actually in DC when when the new stadium was there and you know Rooney was there and things were sort of really starting to pick up for DC. So it's a little bit different but you know. Can you put it in perspective the vibe in Portland relative to some of the other clubs? You've played at. We'll Portland's a big team in a bigger bigger club in any of the clubs. I've played for And the fans. The fans are huge And I mean obviously since I've played done so well to bigger I. It feels like a bigger stage to me every week in week out. I think Erica tests. That when you're in that Melas and you come to Portland away trip. Everyone stoked as soon as they. You know as soon as you got on the plane and got the plane like so I mean the turn of fortunes in my career To get to Portland Incredible. I couldn't been happier and and certainly the way. I'm playing the Matt Right now. Playing at the level I am. You know it's like a match made heaven. I think Steve. Obviously I watch on games whenever you're on. I watch it wherever. I'm at whatever I'm doing. Everything stops just to watch you play because you're that sick but year obviously with all that shit going on in. Portland I think in my opinion. You're one of the soul factors forgiving him into the playoffs. I mean that's not coming from you. It's coming from me just to be clear. There was one a one game against the galaxy. Where you stood on your head against slot on the self-proclaimed lion who scared nobody stare them in his eyes and told them fuck off? Excuse my language but you make you make a double save. The whole place is going through it and it's on national television and I can just see the the emotion going through your eyes and just I'm I'm getting chills even talking about it I just want to from your perspective. Steve What did that feel like here? In the Timbers Army just giving you the love that you fought for after ten fifteen years I we what was elected I got is WanNa hear it. Well I think that was kind of like the kind of my like rise back to where I was in. The Oblast is one of the top goalkeepers. And where now where I am now and it was just my. Climb back just clawing and scrapping to back to the top. And I mean when they came in. We were winning gains. But we really had popped off yet as a team and we dropped four on L. A. but also had a couple of big saves and that the save in the second half which was like it was probably one hundred percent chance from in tuna and I came back across the goal made the save but with the crowd chanting like I was walking. I was walking up with my hand up in the air. Just kinda celebrate as we almost scored on the counter-attack. I mean those who were one of those moments where you're playing when you're a kid. You're out there doing all that where you just start doing it. Because that's what you dream about. That was that was amazing. And it meant more because of all the stuff I've done in my career and that was kind of like my my next chapter like look on back from here. Do you know I may have gone abroad now? Back to stake my claim Amazon. Feel good I don't care and Eric Notice that changed me as you know you like. I think there's a time as a player where you just. Kinda don't care where you say. Look this way I am. That's what I'm doing I'm Gonna I'M GONNA CRUNCH. I'm here yeah. I think I think it's a great point. I think unfortunately a lot of players. Don't think like that early. Steve Unfortunately and I think you've you've always you've always felt like that your whole career which is why you've bounced back from so much shit but I agree. It's for me watching that and it was like it was like you know maybe in five years old in the backyard making saves against lots on you know and in front of sold out stadium in a big game. I mean Steve. Check CHECK. Check check and check. I mean this is this is I mean you probably had about a case of beer when you got home. Probably give you some love and it was probably beautiful man definitely. It's definitely a moment you. I'll never forget. I mean I mean I know. We're on lockdown right. Now we're in quarantine we're all having core. Dini's here Bush. Hopefully we'll be out doing it again soon. Sam Can't wait Willie. God Willing About that this thing I gotta hear the Inside Story. I think he might tell me again but I want to hear it again so I think last year in the playoffs or maybe we're doing that. Seattle rivalry Steve. I gotTa know what the Hell was going on at realm interested and it was almost. Ufc like back then man okay so we were playing at Seattle in July. It was the first time we played Seattle Seattle Portland Rivalries. You know pretty big And we we needed a win for sure and we. We ended up winning the game which was a big game. It was a game where I was getting. Whatever you know as a goalkeeper gets beat up I was getting the different challenges and I was. Kinda getting pretty by the end of the game. I'm getting upset because I'm getting beat. I'm getting taken these elbows and taking shots so at the end of the game. I kinda flexed on Roman Torres. Right before the whistle and he just he just got really mad man he got really really mad and During after the game the whistle blew. We're kind of walking back and all of a sudden. He's a big guy too. I think he's the biggest guy world football too by the way I think that's in the World Cup that year. But he was he was just he would like he was going pretty crazy he wanted. If you wanted to fight or he was faking on the field there was a big you know. What do you call it? A mealy? There was Taylor on the field right so I'm like whatever I don't want any part of this. I'm not just not my style. I don't want anything to do with it and We were okay so the real stories when we on the tunnel. I'm walking into the tunnel and I see a big commotion in. Somebody grabbed me was like dude. Don't go on the tunnel. Roman Tories is waiting for you. And and I'm like dude and at that point. I had been around enough to know that if anything happened it would just take away from my great performance. Didn't want anything about about that life. I'm not a fighter. I'm a soccer player. So I'm like no I'm trying to de-escalate I'm just so I ended up. Walked trying to walk around and get right to the locker room but picture a running back getting out of the hole and then the offensive lineman trying to hold him back. They can't block it anymore because your past them and he's all of a sudden right in my face with no one around this meeting him like in the Tom Nightmare. You're like this is about. We're about to do this well. At that point I had been dodging him for like a solid. You know five minutes and finally finding we were just we were. We were scre w face to face and I was just like army unlike. What is he going to be? We kind of we kind of is kind of is in he. He looked back and then nothing happened. And I just walked to the Locker Mike All Right then just loaned dude like two games over. We're not here to play. But he made a big deal. That's the only time my whole pro-career that there's been almost popped up back to back weeks you stairs Latin the is and then you don Roman tours man. I didn't take pat. They're big. They're big boy. That's like the quintessential sacrifice. Though you run off to somebody get right in their face looking them in the eye and nobody does it. God Damn thing. Everybody goes back to the ladder. Fight did Portland. Seattle the biggest rivalry you've ever experienced played in promotion. Relegation Games obviously felt really really big But that's a that's A. That's certainly the biggest rivalry I think in. Mls really and definitely probably the biggest ones that I played in. I mean the most nerve wracking definitely relegation games. Where near like if you don't win you're going down to the next level which things get really weird those games sure all right so so one question on Geo Savary so he. He's been successful everywhere he goes right so but what. What's he is off? What's what's he like off the field like? Is that the secret success. Gio is without a doubt one of the most genuine nicest guys and good character. Guys that I've ever met as a coach and That's kind of like with his success. That's that's an integral till like what he's doing. I mean these Texan guys during this lockdown. How're you doing what what's going on? So and he's you went to the championship his first year. Mls and he got to at least two in the N. Asl. I mean he's a proven winner And we're hoping the season gets back going so that we can get back on the field feeling on that I had I had a Venezuelan teammate Gills Venezuelan. Right Steve. Yeah absolutely Yup. Do they're They're like the nicest people like very chill very like caring by one thing. I've noticed man when it comes to when it comes to games dude their killers. I mean look at Joseph. Martinez did that guys. I mean we had. We had a guy in Columbus. I mean these these Berta Venezuelan culture is like all business but like you said off. The field is so gentle. And like it's crazy how quick. I mean that's just growing up in that culture and you know how big the game is these people. It's it's not stupid. No it's one hundred percent. It's one hundred percents. Gio has that fear factor for sure that authority. I mean he doesn't naturally authority and he's he's very intense and I think I mean that comes i. I don't think he wheels that often but like a club in his bag that he definitely has. I mean I respect it for sure. I mean look. It's working for you. So you know absolute clearly all right. Well if we unless you WANNA throw any more questions Adam Eric I got. I got some real rapid-fire quick quick shots Adam unless you else. I'm good I'M GONNA. I'll probably just text them or sexton before bed. So we're fine. Okay I gotta get I gotTa Give My Jeff Jeff Antonella. Shout shout out so he you know he had surgery last year and you may have usurped. What was it will will leave. Wally pipped. Wally pipped him a little bit taken. The job But arm wrestling you. Jeff at no. Who's WHO's going to win man. Jeff Scott I'm going to give the NOD TO JEFF. I've notoriously small biceps. My wife attest to that Jeff. The Jeff's like one of the good guys and the Muslim and he's he's one of my closer friends on the team so within competition the competition comes first obviously with. That's a job to do but I Love Jeff. Dude he you know he's a guy for. I mean you talked to you do stupid day. He's a hundred percent so He's he's a great guy. Nice okay now next question so if Eric took five. Pk's on you. How many what he scores. I'M GONNA give Eric for four out of five for sure. That's generous for now. He's got he's got a good bracelet. Don't let him fool you. Dude Eric's got I see I'm GonNa go four to five. I A ball I shit the bed or any time across half so I appreciate it. I appreciate it generous. All right number really put you on the spot. If I took five how many score one off I love it. Yeah yeah that's that's because you're coughing right now. I'm a bit worried about your health. Samuel over there you. Can you get corona through the Mike? I sort of sound like a have emphysema but I actually feel just fine. I'm good I'm sure. No no fever. No it's just a smoker's cough even though I've never smoked in my life. It's the strangest thing that's all. We got other than other than Portland. You Guys GonNa win the the MLS Cup this year. Yeah if we get back playing we we have talented team dude where we are just getting going. You know so I mean Yes yes. It is all right. Well thank you Steve. Honestly great to have you on and the best of luck the seasons up on your plan Chicago and you know God willing. We'll we'll see out there. Sued awesome it on Wall Bill.

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Luis Carvajal Interview - December 21, 2019

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

12:34 min | 9 months ago

Luis Carvajal Interview - December 21, 2019

"Big Victory for imperial Hinchey returns later this afternoon in the grade three Mr Prospector. At Gulfstream Park. After the disappointment of having to scratch the morning warning of the Breeder's cup sprint at Santa Anita. I know that that was heart. Wrenching for our next guest. Who is his trainer? Luis carvajal junior and and he's with me down here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Louis. Good morning one in. Hey how are you. I'm great. How are you my friend? I'm doing I'm great. I can't wait for the way. Yeah you have to be excited to get the big horse back in action. Six years old. He's been so good to you Es so much heart as you heard leary coma sane his call of the Vaas Berg and now he gets a chance to kind of get back on track after what happened at Santa Anita. Let's start there for a second talk about that. In the disappointment of being so close to the Breeders Cup again one of the favorites in there and all of a sudden he comes up with an issue the morning of the race. Yeah well you know. I'm trying to leave that behind me. you definitely would discipline it. I really wanted to take another shot up the I'm Totally quite Yeah like I said before. You're not just leaving behind and If looking forward for the next day they will have planned for him. Yeah as a trainer when you experience a you know we talked about a lot. The highest highs the lowest lows in thoroughbred racing. You're on a high. After winning the Vosper get to Santa Anita. Everything's going great. You're still on a high and then something like that happens. And you're at the bottom of the heap again. How do you keep your emotions in? Check in in stay focused and keep moving forward. Louise how do you do it. You know I I you know the the good thing was I know my heart you were doing good and I know I was GonNa have chances again to to see him run and then and perform as well. They've been You know it's it's hard but you know when you have at least you had the support of Your family behind you and every inch. So it's you know we think this way feed that happened and the Horse got scratch. You know happens for a reason and I always blue so a good reason But yeah what a look see and run them there but you know no. It's been happening for a reason. And then and and So we go back and regroup and I worked good and a couple of weeks after and and I like what I see and then the hopefully in looking forward for next year and And and see what he does. I mean right right now. It's very happy the way the votes have been training and I. It doesn't seem like it's slowing down at all. So that's what he gives me go on and let's see you know I have had the born and of course it's been very hence they once and it's still looking forward to see my other horses run so yeah it is what it is and we'll see what happens today. Yeah I think after having scratch from the Breeders Cup it just made him mad mad because all he's done is come back and fire bullet workouts for you in every workout sense. The Breeders Company comes into the Mr Prospector will in what looks like looks to be great form arm. How good was his summer Lewis when he wins the the AG Vanderbilt. He wins the Vosper. How good was that summer? You can ask for any better For Hen been taken to such a great urinate you know and I mean every trying to. I think he wants something like this to happen. This summer was unbelievable to break a track record in in Saratoga Fide. That say about how the track it was plain plane that day and You know it's it doesn't happen to anybody too many people just breaking the track record and Saratoga I guess so which he'll get a little crazy that has been getting a deserve more credit by special about that race. You you know but that's a dream come true for for trainer you know especially when we don't have all the stock the many others they have so that's why we gather every day in the morning and we try try and we try and to to get host like this one. That's where he keeps everybody else every training it's more stable to to get going forward. You Know Yeah Yeah and you knew he won the AG Vanderbilt. There was no doubt about that. Not only did he set the record but he won by four. The great one vosper is we just heard. It was a bit more narrow of a margin winning by a just a nose just a nostril really and game heart whatever. Whatever you WANNA use to describe imperial hint? He showed it all in the stretch. Run that day did you know. Did you know that he got his nose to the wire. I or were you in doubt a little little bit No I you know what I was standing. I was watching the race. You know it's you know I. It was not sure if one day race but when I saw I have here before the race and we know that students fire with Jason Service. I've Belmont Park Donnie. Love that tracking every time you see Prince. Why run my Alma? You see the way he fires all the time he loves that track so I told him you know you gotta be careful the only speed and I think my kind of got a little bit of federal in the front end and when I saw him coming back and Si- shy and and he got a big heart. Actually I think he's harder than his body because the little rock talking but He has so much heart and translated a great horse to. It's really nice course and you love them and so But I really think that that that raise. Ah I was really happy that he wanted imports. Attend race E- each set in my really good for the brisk. I was happy that he got to do something because I think last last year in two thousand eighteen when he won the boss boy he just He wants so easy greer down and I didn't think that helped him much before he went the British government. So everything was I it was. It was just great to die fighting to win the race and instead they set him up. Good is in like you say it's been great. Since then I've been training superstars and like I said unfortunately that has happened A Santa Anthony W I I I really wanted to prove that Inferior and could have won that race or the Cup to even know the mentally. I mean He. It's it's I think it's a great course. He become really nice course especially in the mouth but I think it would mean a lots of people and and to to see that the imperial hand it could I think if we couldn't raise him the Base Cup it would have been close. I think I would have when ray so but you know that it's right now I'm just like I said we gonNA leave behind us and And look forward over for this race and then hopefully we'll have a great twenty twenty and then we'll definitely probably would be looking at the back. Some tire tire for Impro- it's been great to us. Who gave him the nickname the little rocket? You know the little rocket I think you came from last year. Doxa may from Larry Combs and he goes. I think he wants you know the racket I think he wanted to call him the rocking man but they thought maybe some conflicts with the the from from Elsa John but since then it's been yeah we always go in little rock now. That's the thing you know you mention by the way talking with Louis Kara. How junior the trainer of imperial hint going to the post and the grade? Eight three Mr prospector today. You mentioned that you wanted a shot at Matola in the Breeder's cup sprint. Who wouldn't when you have a horse like imperial hint but you get a rematch with a horse? Who defeated you in Dubai? Three starts ago back in March. And that's x y jet and he's a much like forensic fire was Douaumont. He's a horse. That loves Gulfstream Park Tell me about that rematch. Coming up later this afternoon you know what I wasn't. I WANNA ten. ooh I wasn't expecting ex wife get running Jorge Caro- caught me by surprise but I I think it's I think it will. I mean it's it's you know you have a couple of horse have been ups and everything I mean. It's it's it's it's became to be a one hundred thousand dollar raise I I think it's salty very salty. Feel and but going back to the idea the I I run the by against him. I didn't think I had the best decision. That either and I the race then. The bell the way we wanted to but I think thing to me. Maybe x-ray Jid in my horse You know we we're GONNA put a good show and I hope like you say you know it's like car racing and drivers. You know we will always wanted the best it'd be horse and and we we But at the end we always wanted to be an definitely I wanna be yet and I definitely want everybody else but as horse racing. That's why he's so beautiful by this about the sport that it's never a short thing you can be the money and you can see Luther rates once a gate open You you know every everything can change but I think I have a good shot. You Know X. Y. J. had some Golden Shaheen and it might need this race he's Seven pool until soot him and at the same weekend sat on my horse. Even know that one over seventy eight but that was as long time ago with different kinds of horses. So you know it's see how detracts GonNa play today and and but I would definitely would like to see my horse. Yeah Yeah Imperial Hint three for five at the seven furlong distance x y jet for three at that seven for long distance. And so I think from that standpoint. The edge goes to imperial hint later this afternoon. Louis before I let you go you if everything goes well today. What are the plans moving forward for your six year old star? It'll be surely it'll be seven and and we're would would would that talk it over with miss them mamone and donor for imperial hand and I mean we will be trying to see if we can go to this Saudi Arabia They have race there. Three quarters of one point five million and hopefully everything goes well and that will be the next step in and then we go from therapy for that begin meaning exway Joe Chancellor at the And Dubai over there you have it Louis Kara how junior has trained more than one hundred winners since launching his career here in the United States one hundred winners here in North America and the native of Chile who grew up. The son of a jockey is On a roll and I know that no horse more special than imperial Hinton. We'll see if he can get it done later today in the Mr Prospector. Louis really appreciate the visit here this morning. Thank you so much for taking the time and all the best with the big horse and not just today but moving forward as well. Thank you guys thinking having me other show here and Appreciate it and we need all the publicity we get for December rocketed all the credit. Yeah go get it done my friend. Thank you guys.

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The State of Social Media in 2019

Digital Coffee

34:18 min | 1 year ago

The State of Social Media in 2019

"That's good. That's the sound of new brood episode of digital coffee in this week were to talk be talking about, well, social media kind of state. We're in, in two thousand nineteen laws change law things have been coming at social media in different ways as usually all bad nowadays. No one's really happy with social media. We just kinda go. Well, it's there. We gotta deal with type of things are going to be talking about that boils talking about coffee that I got it's called laughing men and snow and may not actually not be laughing joke. You don't really know all that, you know, if it's good or not. But as always, I'm your host Brett Deisler, and if you'll be so kind please be sure to subscribe to it on apple podcast Google podcasts. Spotify stitcher. Iheartradio on all them. So if you actually do that that'd be great and. You know, we could. We can help this digital coffee place become even better. But let's get on with what's going on in. Social media world. Pulse coffee, but coffee, I because it's always more important coffee is most important meal of the day, as I usually say, anyways, the laughing man is actually a really good coffee. It's really great. It's really crisp. It is probably. Something that I've actually get over and over again. Even by the name. It's new having matter this coffee, actually makes a really great coffee. Roaster should say makes really great coffee. It is so good, so smooth. So. Flavorful. But in more of a Hinchey kind of a way cities, always low and also using carry because I feel like it's a good test copies. Good. If you actually use a curate first, and then you go to the beans, which eventually try if I can find some in being form for colebrook. So that's another thing is a good cold brew. Some are some are not. It really depends. It depends on the roast broths depends on how you grind it. And how long you actually. Steep it. But anyways, I give it to thumbs up for this coffee. Be sure to pick it up, either in small form. Either your local supermarket, or Costco, actually has a big form as you ton of different coffees at Cosco as well. But yes is good is great. I actually like, laughing man. So be sure to actually pick it up. So moving on to that's right. Social media, the thing that we actually all use to either. Brander sells brand the companies are trying to create I cells brand the companies we work for aiding the you actually do you do your social media nowadays? It's an important part of well of everyday life. It kinda started off with friendster and then in Inga and those two not saying thing is actually, but friendster. Yes. France was actually kind of the first ones to showcase what social media can be, and then my space came along, and it showed how popular social media can't be an came along and showed how profitable social media, companies can actually be an we're in the state where we have the titans, which is Facebook Twitter YouTube, the litter, the kind of three titans there. And then you have a very other ones Pinterest. You got Snapchat. You have your Eltek you got your minds, yet, your parlors. You got your gab. AI you've got bit shoot as well as a an upstart. And then you have your life streaming. You've got your twitch. You've got your mixture. You've got your shout cast. You've got a ton of tools that have been kind of bread four social media. You've got your buffer. You've got your hoots. What you got your. Canvas actually create pictures for it, but they also can do various different things. You have. Plethora of tools. I mean I could probably go on it. I mean, bit leave got other types of you are all sorts to actually track where your house or going it is a lot. It is overwhelming at times, and it can be one of those things where it's like, which one do I pick what is going on with these companies, why do I feel like my privacy isn't really cared about there are a ton of issues. Unfortunately, that social media has brought up with it. And there's a ton of good things. I mean you can communicate your message to anybody if anybody will listen to it. That's another thing. And so we've kind of gotten like a, a metamorphosis of social media where it used to be broadcasting to everybody. Most people are looking to broadcast who smaller number of people, so you have kind of both of it. I do think, and eventually, I'll kind of conclusions will be that there will be more niche social media or social media platforms coming out, because niche influencers have proven to be more profitable than the big ones, and people have different likes and different tastes. And you can actually thrive as media company in those Pacific niches, and then eventually broadcast yourself out there. So let's get on with kind of what's going on Facebook, Twitter, and most of them are usually based around San Francisco. And if you don't really know. Terrence Cisco is please get out. Please look it up map look at something, but San Francisco, California, 'cause I've been born raising California far away from San Francisco. I'm actually more. Southern San Francisco's more northern. But it I, I usually dub as the dark navy blue of California. It's very liberal very progressive at wants to help everybody. But then sometimes I feel like it doesn't help anybody but you get the point. So all other policies are based around this type of leaning, because most of the majority of the population, there is very liberal. Good or bad thing. It's really up to you, and you really up to your perspective. I'm just giving you a rundown of what it is. So the problem is that people that are not liberal or progressive have kind of been. Pushed aside kind of really been taking advantage of, through all this as being to a point where they've been calling on social media companies for shadow Benham for doing things to them. They won't do the other sites. They grew the other side more than this side type of battle, and you've got to balance between two different parties or tribes because a lot of times, down days were coming more and more, tribal, like our ancestors were. So we've got different tribes go like lobbing, accusations that each other ones trying to hurt the other one's trying to get someone's livelihood destroyed the others trying to do the same thing, but not to the as big ry, and you've got this hodgepodge, nobody really listening to each other's talking to each other. So social media be more become a shouting match than. Talk. Listen talk. Listen, which is usually what communications all about -cations all about a center receiver. You send a message, the receiver takes it and the receiver kind gives back their message and vice versa. But it feels like a lot of times there's a center, and there's thousands of thousands, or millions and millions of receivers and they kind of glance over what you said, pick apart what you said, and go a ha I'm gonna give back and that's really how social media has come about to be kind of a mess in a way like when, when it was in the beginning, I'll fully mid that. I was I love social media. I don't love as much used to I still think there are good things that does. But there are there are problems to it. There are problems with our skewed perception of are skewed persona of, hey, every having a great time, but I'm not having a great time. Because I'm not posting those pictures that everybody seems to be having a great time on there are those problems there, also ton of other problems with just entrenching yourself on one side, and once you trench yourself on one side, you don't actually listen to anybody because the algorithms basically just give you what you always wanted. And there's actually I don't remember the books are really great book, about the brain how the brain functions and it kind of correlates to what social media is doing right now. So you have of two different parts of your brain one is, as says type two is really lazy, but your critical thinking side type one actually it's more emotional. If you agree with it, you won't actually question type of side in so a lot of time social media, we don't actually turn on type two, which are on type one. We see something we like unsocial, and we're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Course I agree with all the time. And then when tight to kind of wakes up, I guess you'd say. Only win we disagree with things. So there is this part of we aren't really train ourselves to question, what people are writing to actually research where people writing from either side of the platform, because both sides can be right and they can be wrong. And so what social media has done is basically made it more hyper, or it's just overloaded us, where type two just never turns on. It's just like I can't deal with all this. I just deal with it just go with your gut. It's basically what type one usually is always going with your gut going with your motions, and as a marketer, and also marketing people know is that the best way to market to you is to use your motions because a motion motion based decisions a lot quicker. It's a lot easier to convince you while more intellectual based decisions are harder to convince you on just a little tidbit, there may have gotten inside baseball, but I mean the research is out there for you to find that one but going back to it, the may reason why social media was so great in the past was because there was no algorithm showing you what you wanted you decide to lose. Of everything that was going on through everybody else's lives, and all the pages is you're like, oh, I like that. So you did it yourself because actually our brains are really good at kind of slected -ly going in and out of different things actually pay attention to everything. However, Facebook wanted to actually make money because this is all profit driven to their business model. So that algorithm. Actually help to make money because if you didn't pay them, you wouldn't guess much reach as if you paid them. And so that's why for the business side of is kind of sucks. If you don't pay, you know pay to play. So if you don't pay to play you don't gives many hits and be wondering why not getting as many hits because you're not paid a playing the only reason why Facebook actually did this was because of money wanted to be profitable wanted to make money. And it's the only way why they actually made these types of algorithms, 'cause they didn't actually care about the they wouldn't. And this is why other platforms have kind of a risen saying, hey we won't we don't care about your privacy. We'll we don't care about that stuff. Hey, we have a subscription type model, but there's a free one as well. So if you wanna do the subscription you can as the way we make our money. And so that's the alternative way of doing it. Because nothing in please understand. Nothing is ever free in this world. If something is free, be sure to question, be skeptical about it, because nothing is free. There's always a cost to something. For example, if you go to college, and you pick one degree, there's a cost to that time and energy also is a cost to. Not doing any of the other thousands of different degrees that you're doing because you're spoken on one thing and. That's kind of how. That is algae, basically I just lost my train of thought little bit. But that's kind of how usually is between these models, either you're going to be free. Take your data understand your data or have a shadow show profile like Facebook does. So, you know, if you're not on Facebook, or Instagram, which is owned by Facebook anyways, you already have shadow profile of yourself. There'd be no basically everything about you. You are not off of social media. Even if you say you're off social media. You're not really off Verity of profile of you. It's a little scary. I understand that part. And it's a little unnerving if you actually care about your privacy. If you don't see going, I don't really care, I got nothing to hide about argument, I guess, I've heard people actually say that. And if you really are on the marketing world you don't understand this how much your data's important marketers because if they because there is this thing, people want to be recommended, the right things for them. But unfortunately, we don't have the data for you. We can't recommend you the right things. So we don't have the data we can't remember, recommend you the right things. But if you want your privacy, then you're cut off the data, which means that we're going to be guessing, what type of things at York she like so there is this push pull of different types of ideas coming on that. If you want the best recommendation for you, you're gonna wanna give them their your data your, your browsing history, which you've looked at for shopping, so they can give you the right thing for you, and you have to search for a very much, and that's what a lot of people usually want. There are always a group people that don't want that. I wanna make sure the keep in check these businesses that are taking a lot of our data. But usually you're going. To see. For a free social media site. They're gonna be collecting your data your day is the most valuable thing to them. So we've had so we have this problem with algorithms, basically changing our conversations to be a little bit more hostile to each other. We're not like I said, we're not listening to each other anymore. We are basically, passively hearing each other, and just responding because we already have the idea of how we're going to get you the next time. So use as your rights only we read it interpreter on ways. We already have the response to what you were already going to say. It didn't matter what you said, we just kind of alter it to what you actually said, because we don't actually know what you said before you actually type it or say, usually it's typing then. It goes on and on. So no one's the synchtree. Other were already entrenched in what we think is right? Or guardless of the other side, and con to the detriment of the side, we know you're wrong, we know your and you can pick out the most hyperbolic things racist, sexist snowflake anything that you are already labeled. It doesn't matter because you're not on my team. And this is what social media has basically solidified for different people social media is life to a lot of people belong stand, that most people actually don't are in the middle and don't agree with either side of it. And this is your PSA announcement. If you're on social media all the time, please get off it. Please go explore the world talked different people talk to people that you don't agree with and see how much you actually have in common. I know it's weird but social media has made us into tribal people. It's the weirdest thing in the world, but it's actually really true, and then we got calls on. Let's say from Project Veritas is keep up with news of kind of showing that. Most companies are in one camp. And if you're not in that camp, you will be either labeled a porn site, even though you're an antiabortion site, and they will do things that are really very transparent, and then they'll be called out, and they'll be scrambling to fix this in any type of way they can fix this, which is usually trying to protect. Them as a platform to publisher, and that's really nice really. Important to note is that there is a difference between platform and a publisher Mosul shimmy sites should be a platform, and what that means is that you have certain rights protections that if you post something, they are not liable for what you post, however, a lot of times, and this is from one side, saying is it seems like they're more of a publisher saying what you can and cannot post and they will remove you ban you shadow Banyu, whatever it is because you don't abide by their policies that as an ever, ever changing goalposts, every time I've seen a lot of youtuber website YouTube because it's never chained goalposts, their terms services are never actually defined enough. They kind of have these vague terms that no one really knows how to actually follow. So following anything is almost a headache where what I think YouTube is actually trying to do is trying to. It's trying to pacify at all. It's trying to make it so cookie cutter that known really debates important topics. So it's more advertiser friendly 'cause they care about that money than the care about the YouTubers now now prior to all this, when they were actually all knew, they wanted everybody why do they want everybody because you to grow their network? Once you have that critical mass network that you already Bill, then you start to pick and choose like, oh, this is not something we like, so you're gone. This is not something you like. So you're gone instead of prior to it. And this is round probably two thousand ten to two thousand I would say fourteen probably last kind of bastion of this, where, like, hey, you know what, whatever you say, you can say, and we will protect your right to say it, too. Well, you can save these things. And you can't say this thing this thing, we're gonna keep vague enough. So we can just say, well, you said something that was in this category. So then we're going to block. U N. Anyways, because this category is far more important to us, even though I know we said almost about ten years ago that. Actually a little over. Have, you know, ten year just about ten years ago that you could say these things our protect you? But now we're not really gonna protect you. We're gonna pick and choose which targets can actually. Ban from. And if you fall into that, while be prepared just to be banned in have no recourse for it. So that's kind of the state rumor in where. The most bombast personalities become influencers the most level headed people will become the villains. We have their little. Minions. Fighting each other going, you're right. No. He's right. No, you're wrong. You're wrong baba. And they're always talking over each other, and Nobis actually this new anymore. Because like I said before they already have decided that you are wrong. They are right. Our group is Roy's, right? Your group is always wrong, blah, blah, blah, blah near near near go home. You loser in whatever. And that's really what the state were in. Social media has been great for a while. And I was young. It was new. Everybody wanted to talk to other everyone into, like engage with each other. And now we're just only engage with our own groups. We don't care about what you say, we don't care about what you feel, we don't care, we ruined your life. We just want to win. And that's how it is yet to be careful about what you say, how you say, because somebody somewhere will be offended because nobody can actually get a grip and understand that not everything's about you, not everything has to be about, you know, to be offended by every little thing that happens to you on both sides on both sides, grow up. Like I feel like a lot of times, we're on social media were just little kids playing with fire where like Hulu. Let's see how far you can go with this. It's the Fargan do this before the whole forest catches on fire and scorched earth. Everything that I know of because. I want to win type of thing. And that's the that's the biggest problem, I have right now everybody hates somebody every offended about something else. You can't figure out what offense is going to be the next new offense of the day. And you kind of just going. Well, what's the point of social media? More social media is funding more. That's the other part. It's not fun. I you can just be banned all of a sudden, because you said, one misstep in someone got offended, and then they started to complain they're on the right side of it. And so you get a band for it and it's like I can't follow these rules anymore. I don't know where where the line is. I don't know what the standard is, as a problem standards our standard for a reason there's a standard, and you don't deviate from standard. And when you're stinger standard moves all the time. How you supposed to follow it? There's a reason why most industries have a standard like this is the standard of it. If it's below it, it's not good. If it's is above it is seized standards. And this is where we're in right now where no one can figure out the standard of the rules of the policies because the policies always change. Then you have the government coming and going look at, like we're tired of you targeting one group of people and always saying how terrible they are. But the other group, you're just letting go with whatever they can say, so if you don't stop this them are start to regulate you in the nobody wins. Because government relations narrow never always the best thing for this even though there's some calls for some people saying, well, if we can't have a standard in how the rules are being implemented. And maybe it's time for the government to actually come in and regulate it make their own standards saying this is what the standard is don't deviate from it. And the comforter like wha wha will we don't want, this will do our best will change. And they never really kinda chained because one groups, always say, well. You're doing the same thing over and over again. And we don't like it. So that's what we're in now. I do like the future's going to be very niche in soc me now. There's not going to be the big conglomerate companies with billions, billions of followers really going to be the millions and millions of followers, and you're gonna find the right one for you. There's gonna be there already are some gaming social is out there and there's more and more every day. I mean more for different types of politics, in different types of sides, you're going to be specific to that. There's ones for just, you know, freelancers ones for just creative individuals or it's going to be once for a ton of array of different things that I can't even come up with for cooking for book writing for anything that you can think of there will be one for that. And that's how it's actually going to be from now, on, because people are tired of talk other people that they don't agree with, and they just wanna go to their own little group and talk about with the things they agree with. And so this is how the niche is going to form. People are gonna be tired of. Talking to side is gonna be like, okay. We're just gonna go to our own platform because why might be with you? We don't like you. And so the fabric kind of how alise in American side of it the fabric of just having social contract that says, we'll yeah. We don't really agree with you, but you want stone gauge with you. We'll be on. Bullion. Why? Because we cannot listen to each other anymore, we cannot have civil conversations anymore without in sullen name calling somebody else because easier to one up you and get your little, I guess tweet sound by your tweet. Tweet take down. I guess you could say is probably the best way of saying it. So said to this, I also think eventually social media's going to be more of album rally virtual reality type of industry is going to morph into something else social media, as it is now will not be the same thing in ten years. It'll be something much much different than what it is only because of blockchain. Coming into the four a crypto currency really becoming more and more popular. There is going to be different from what it is today from what is going to be ten to fifteen years from now. So there is going to be a difference. There's is going to be a shift, but in different things to shift is probably not blonde. Still, I'm still saying that niche social media networks are going to be the thing. That means they're going to be a ton of them. And there's going to be the winners losers of them. What is it loser's gonna be the benefit of dominating that type of niche? And that's really how it is the state is kind of it's good. 'cause there's a lot of opportunity for it. But it's bad because we're in this mess, where everybody hates everybody else as the biggest messages. I don't want that mess. Any more? I want that Mexico way. Please go away continue their mess. We need to listen more. I think that's always been a Ma TRE since I've been growing up since even in floss books, theology books. It's always about listening, more talking less. The problem is that we never learn our lesson even through history. We never learn a lesson, and we talk more unless unless like old saying, have two years, one now of double you should have more capacity for listening talking. Unfortunately, the one thing is sometimes bigger than the two things, and then you have problem there or just the egos bigger than your ears. Either one, it's never really a good thing social media. Like I said the state of it is. It's kinda like when I guess, now when America was first, starting off a one the revolutionary war in the start. I guess you'd say spoiler spoiler alert. I guess I mean it's coming old spoiler. But if you didn't know that America actually had. It's I try articles of confederation don't work whatsoever. It was actually more based off of the, the grease type of democracy of city states of cities have kind of control. What they do. And they come to a general defensive each other, and it did not work at all. Penalty didn't learn from histories and knowing that even in Greece. It didn't work it worked for the peleponnesian wars, and feel the wars path to that it just completely just Sparta was at war with Athens. Everybody just was like, I don't get involved with this, and you just have you just had a major power, call Greece go up go down really quickly and America tried that. Well, they quickly figured out that this was not gonna work out of all there's problem with commerce, because some states were more expensive in those days and it just was not working at all. So they come back throwing like look at this is not working. So they came. Back said, we're going to do more of a Brahmin type of government structure called the Republic. I know people always, like they were democracy, but really not were kind of a fork is you say of democracy were not really democracy were Republic representatives representing us sometimes badly. But you get what I'm saying. And this is kind of what we're in were were it's been going on for so long where it's worked, but now, we're seeing that's not really working to L anymore. There needs to be a change somewhere. I think everybody from either side knows it now how we agree and how it supposed to change is, well, we haven't come to understanding on that one yet we agreed. That's only then we real needs to change beyond that we're all in disagreement, where all kinds like. No, that's wrong. No, that's wrong. Like I said, lessening, more talking, which leads to nobody winning and we really need to. Just sit down understand each other understand each other's concerns. Maybe not always agree on the concerns belief come to a compromise were both parties. Get some things that they won the only way is going to happen. One party is not gonna win this unless you want to collaborate, which takes a really long time to deal, but compromises, usually the most quick and effective way of doing it. We have to come to a compromise. At least everybody has a right to be heard, or the agree or disagree with are not. You don't have to also. I mean, if you're getting like upset about what people say, just leave for a couple of hours. You say something upsets people in their bombarding you just leave and just own saw the app, and reinstall once the kind of its digest on. That's all you gotta do. You can block commute. I mean, people do all the time we need to learn to not always engage, will we don't need to engage, the problem is that everybody feels like they need to engage when someone. Tweets are posted comment on them. We always need to do that. Just balk away comeback. And it's all good. But. As a recap, again, social media's a little bit of trouble needs kind of a rebirth and he's kind of like a, a renewed. Vision, I say from all of them are new vision. It also needs. To figure out what it is. Is it a platform as a publisher and maybe maybe that needs to be a government thing deck? She say what you're now this unless you can show that you're this. We're now going to say you're liable for things. Maybe it's another way of doing it. Maybe it's just having other people with better visions making their own social networks, and really being more of a niche to what people actually care about, and be more of a hobby type of social media where it's more of you. Former on hobbies form around likes and interests. And you just have those instead of just a one conglomerate Facebook that is for everybody, but it really is for nobody because you can't do everything because you'll be nothing but I think it's really what we need to do. We need to figure it out. People need to sit down to fficials the tech people, social media people sit down. Listen to actually both sides, do not disregard one side because you do now agree with them and really hash out what needs to happen. Is it needs to actually have like, more of a free speech side of it or needs to be more restrictive side of speech? I mean, we're already restrictive side, and it's not really working too. Well, so maybe we need to look at the other side of it. Just a thought. That's deal with you. All you drink your coffee for a little bit. But anyways, I want to thank you for listening in on this very interesting. Joe coffee episode on what do you think about it? You think social needs changed? You think it's fine. The way it is or do not care it all. And just we're like, just like your voice. So I just did you anyways. Thank you. Anyways, anyways, as once again, I said, please fall coffee on apple podcasts. Cool podcast Sicher. 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AnimeCons TV - Staff Talk: Privacy Policies for Conventions

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AnimeCons TV - Staff Talk: Privacy Policies for Conventions

"Hi, welcome to EMMY TV I'm Patrick deli Hinchey in on this episode. We're gonna talk about privacy policies have been promising this episode for probably about a year since Judy PR into effect. And so I'm finally sitting down to cover this topic, and it's a very important topic because privacy is important to all of us. We don't want our information out there and privacy policy is a statement from an organization that says, what they do with our data and how they handle it. And it's really the only way we get to know exactly what they're doing with the data that we provide them. We'll start let's cover. What is personal data? Now, obviously things like your name your address phone number Email address. That's obviously your personal data. However, you can be identified if somebody takes. Other data pieces together that might point to you. So, for example, if somebody has t shirts is favorite sports team. The gamer screen name race sexual orientation, browser cookies IP address shoe size. Who knows? They could take some of that data and put it together in eventually figure out. Okay. We've narrowed it down. It's this person. It's kind of like a CSI sort of investigation, but that's all considered personal data because it's your information even if it's just your shoe size. That's your personal data and so. It's important to have this data covered by policy by a conventions website. And by the convention itself. Now. By law. There may need to be a privacy policy. Because for example, the California online Privacy Act, also known as Cal oppa that requires it organizations. Have a legal statement available if personal information collected from any California based users, no matter where you are. It's extremely likely that California based user like myself is visit your conventions website. I run fan dot com, I, visit literally every conventions website to verify information. So you've got to California user on your site, sorry about that probably not just me though, especially if you're in California, now, some examples in other countries could include candidate's personal information protection, and electric documents act. Pip. EDA and Austrailia is Privacy Act of nineteen eighty eight however Cal upa in European Union's GDP are talk more on that later there, so broad and global reaching that most other privacy laws are covered as long as you cover Cal up and GDP. Some third party services may actually, require you to have privacy policy, for example, Google in lyrics, which many, many websites, probably most websites news for analytics data of traffic to their sites. He was coming to. Visit what pages they visit it's very popular? But if you look at the terms and conditions Google analytics, they actually require that you disclose. Use Google in your own privacy policies. So if you use Google analytics, you're legally supposed to have a privacy policy that's as you're using Google. Analytics, probably wanna put some other stuff in there, too. But and this is just one example, if you're doing a Facebook app if you've got Twitter cards, I think needs privacy policy look into any third party services. You're using whether it's in Olympics or registration service for your convention. Social media and see, okay if I have this on my site, do I have to put something in my privacy policy? And so also could have just because many users will want to know what you're doing with the data. If you're if you're collecting data from users, I mean, I go to your website, and they give you some information, I kinda wanna know what you're doing with it have sort of t that it's going to be safe. So the privacy policies, the appropriate place to share that information. If you're running convention in collecting, registration data from attendees, you're collecting names, addresses phone, numbers, emails payment information sometimes other personal data such as age gender online screen name. That's all personally identifiable information. And so you need to definitely have a privacy policy on your site. If you're collecting all this data assure people that's could be private. And let people know if you're gonna share it with any third parties. Maybe a third party ticket seller. Maybe there's a payment processor to process that payment. Let them know what data is being shared and who's it being shared to the new who has access to that data? Is it all of your staff? Is it shared with the treasurer the shared with marketing staff or registration staff? I mean obviously the registration staff. They're gonna see the names in the computer that people registered. So let people know who has access to it and also state what if mission maybe made public if you're going to publish a list of attendees? You have to let them know, hey, you're of name will be published if you even if you have forum user names, well, they register for an account that form username is obviously public maybe prince their age or something else as well. Maybe their location. You wanna let them know what information you giving over to anybody else now I mentioned earlier GDP are that is. Privacy policy enacted by the European Union in may twenty eight teen the GDP are supersedes the previous policy, the head, which was a lot of separate policies. And so this brings all that you Member States under one regulation in a single personal data protection, law GDP are puts guidelines and regulations and how the data's processed use stored and exchanged under GDP are any European citizen can request that their personal data. Be a raced by any organizations servers at anytime in the organization must comply unless like law enforcement needs the data. Then you can't say, oh no delete it because, you know, police have already asked for it as a loophole though. Oh, discover a loophole companies can decide how they wish to be notified. And what documentation was be provided? If you want to remove that data. As a result, some companies are requiring that users must prove their identity before removing the data, so you can't just say over move everything from this user, Joe blow. You have to say, okay, here I am Joe blow. Here's his data. So, because you have to prove your identity and some cases, you may actually revealed more about yourself than the company before, say, for example, their companies only logging IP addresses and you want to remove your IP from their logs well to do that. You would have to. Prove that you are the user at p and in doing so you're going to tell them not just the IP but your name. So they may just not want to do that, now, obviously, for something like Facebook. A lot of data. So they probably already know who you are. And so having to prove yourself, not a big deal. They already know you for, for small companies that are only logging P and some rather insignificant personal data. This kind of makes it a pain, and it's a way that the companies don't have to go through that, like, oh, we're going to go through our logs, and move that IP. Why? So that's a little loophole. And I haven't heard much about that. But anyway, GDP are also states that the thirties must be alerted to data-breach within seventy two hours of its discovery. And that's pretty good because you probably heard, you know this company or that company gets hacked, and it happened months ago. Well this puts an end to that says, you have to tell people that you had to did intrusion in do it within three days. So it's that they're reducing that time companies have just. Gotten away with before. Now maybe wondering. Okay. Well, I'm have nothing to do with Europe. Why do I need to worry about GDP are well organizations must comply with Judy PR? Are those that are in the European Union? But if you're not in the European Union. In new process, personal data of European Union citizens. Or if you have more than two hundred and fifty employees or if you have fewer than two hundred fifty employees in you your practices impact the rights and freedoms of European citizens, and include certain types of personal sensitive data than you need to comply with GDP. So that's pretty much everyone. As an example, if you're an enemy convention in the US, and you've got a single visitor from Ireland on your website, and you've logged, their IP address, then you've logged, personal data of European citizen and you have to comply with GDP are if you're a furry convention in Canada, and you have a registration coming in from attendee in France, you definitely have to comply with GDP are because you have their personally identifiable information. Is it likely that a small organization outside European Union's ever going to be affected by GDP PR? I mean some convention in Kansas, with five hundred people are they going to be affected. Probably not however, GDP. Our coverage is a rebel. It's a rather simple thing to add to your privacy policy, and it's better to just add the appropriate language now covered just in case. So probably thinking like, oh, great. Now, we have to write it privacy policy, and it's complicated paid a lawyer, and they're gonna try to so much in our, blah, blah, blah. Well. It's not as daunting, as you might think, with other legal requirements from states and countries drafting piracy policy, that complies with your deeds could stay up to legal scrutiny. It might seem daunting, but their services out there will actually aid in the creation of the privacy policy for you. My personal favorite is terms feed. I want to know that they are not a sponsor. I'm just a fan. I'm recommending becomes I've used them for Finn dot com. And with companies, I've worked with professionally when I've needed to draft, a privacy policy, I go to term street, and very happy with the results and the one time rate, they charge is quite reasonable, and it's good for peace of mind, just to make sure you're covered. Visit their site at terms feed dot com interview questions, customize the policy to your needs decide which coverage you need which you don't and they'll have the completed policy in no time you don't have to hire a lawyer. So in addition to privacy policies terms feed also has offense to build terms and conditions ULA that user license agreement returned and refund policy cookies policy and a disclaimer, so you probably don't need all those. But if you do there, there as well. Now keeping I'm not a lawyer. One of those fancy YouTube lawyers run and go fund maze. But none of this should be taken his legal advice. If you have any legal concerns, or doubt of any of Asian, I presented, I strongly encourage you to talk to it actual lawyer. If you're running convention, you'd probably have a lawyer already looked over your contracts. I hope you have a lawyer, get a lawyer. Somebody's look of your contracts, and if you have any questions about that the, the privacy policy, run by your lawyer say, look, we did this up in terms. She just give it a glance let us know thumbs up down house anything you want to change. And you know, then you don't have had the lawyer draft, the whole thing they probably just go to terms feed anyway. And showed you double. So yeah, you can have lawyer just look it over and let you know, if there's anything that needs to be tweaked, especially, you know, for local laws, you might have. But privacy policies are very important. I'd love to see them on more convention, websites, real soon. There's just no not not enough of them out there. See somebody come into websites and not enough privacy policies, you know, that's just put a little link at the bottom of your page say, privacy policy, or registration page or something. You don't have to put it big thing. You don't need a big article, but a little privacy policy. Let people know if you have questions about this talk to your lawyer, but you can also Email us at podcast in becomes dot TV or a voicemail at six to adequate that seven six two to three seventy two eight and not a lawyer, but we can do our best to answer your questions to hear from your comments on this episode. And we'll see you next time hope this information's you still. But.

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ATC122: 4 Pillars of Audio Drama, Modern Distribution Methods & Interview with Discovery Mountain Creator

Audio Theatre Central | Exploring Family Friendly Audio Drama

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ATC122: 4 Pillars of Audio Drama, Modern Distribution Methods & Interview with Discovery Mountain Creator

"And now audio theatre central ohio. I'm johnny whitaker most folks around here a call me wit vinnie jones and new. I'm dave arnold your host for focus on the family radio so you hello welcome to audio theatre central. This is the show it's all about family friendly audio drama. I'm jay dee and i'm roy and i'm andrew. Welcome to episode one twenty two well. We we have a whole lot of stuff lined up for you in this episode but not a review where we're breaking the mold train jumping out of the regular routine in here. It's been a while since we've done a discussion episode and there's a couple of different topics that sort of kind of in a google doc for quite some time that i've thought were be good to talk about and in the aftermath of the sinica awards we just figured it was a perfect time to take a break from reviews and just have a chat with you so thanks for joining us well in addition to the discussions that we're gonna have. We're gonna chat a little bit about four four pillars of modern audio drama the methods of distribution in this current tech age and we have some feedback from big bob jackson dominic shannon and we have an interview coming up with the creator of discovery mountain gene boonstra so we're looking forward to that also roy has a newscast coming up yeah even even though a brick in the mold. We're keep this tradition going yes so we didn't i know there would be some listeners. That might might revolt because we know that you have some fans out there roy yes. I think i guess just the news. It's not me they just wanna hear the news well. That's probably well real quickly. Just wanted to give a shoutout to pandemic. They make brand <unk> carlos over there recently revamped the porsche family media logo did a fantastic job so just wanted to give him a shout-out <hes> go checkout the work that they do over at pandemic brand dot com and i love the new logo. You've probably noticed your podcast cover. Art has been updated for for this show and now it includes this <hes> little lamp logo which is a an element of the actual network logo so just really cool and wanted to give him a shout-out out all right roy for you. Music fans composer jerry fisk well released over ten minutes of highlights headlights from his score for the jake mueller adventures unidentified. This is deepest wells. I fooling science fiction score. The second annual cynical awards broadcast broadcast took place on july twenty six two thousand nineteen. If you missed a livestream you can still catch the broadcast at the senecas dot org and as episode one twenty one of the a._t._c. podcast volume. Two of the event is here. This volume contains over four hours of stories beginning with isaac's blessing of jacob through the story of the egyptian exodus. The title on summary for adventures in odyssey volume sixty eight has been released. It will be titled out of the blue and it's available for preorder now. That's it for the news time. I'm roy reporting for audio theatre central as always lots of stuff going on yeah new odyssey which is always great couple of new lamp lighters yeah new the event so much so little little time. When will we find time to listen to it all. We'll make it happen yeah. I'm sure we'll figure it out. Somehow now before we jump into the main discussion shouldn't segment. I just wanted to throw this out to you. The listener and i want you to give feedback on this really do because this is some things that i've been thinking about actually chatting with the austin peachy about it a few days back and there's a lot of older audio drama really before audio drama was a big thing like it is now with odyssey and all these other major productions and there are still people who are involved in these he's old shows that are still around and i just wanted to know how many of you would be interested in us trying to make contact with them and you know get some behind the scenes interviews with them regarding some of these productions specifically talking about things like salty the singing songbook book some of those old staff some of those early audio programs obviously most of these were for kids but there's also a series called a gop a land a lot of people heard the song bullfrogs and butterflies that was really big that was part of the guppy land series and coby. The computer was another one and and then this is another one that i've been thinking about for a long time. It's called the children's bible in sound and pictures now this is i'm sure some of our listeners i can't even conceive of this but this is an audio drama on record willow and i used to listen to this and you would open up the record cover and it would be comic book inside and this audio drama would play and follow along with these comic strips strips that's cool and it was all <hes> bible stories and i could not think of the title of it for the longest time just i don't i just couldn't think think of it but i had the the picture of the actual cover in my mind i picture it exactly the way it was but i could not remember what the title was and and so i never ever thought to just google children's bible audio or you know just a random generic search term until i was was talking with austin the other day and while while we were on this hang out. I'm like okay. I'm just going to search it and just searched this generic phrase. I forget get exactly what it was but it was one of the first results and i'm like oh my goodness there. It is and i recognized the album and so anyway. I said all that to say this. There's a lot of old audio drama that was done in the seventies and eighties that still really good quality content and i i have actually recommended some of these programs to some of my friends who have young kids and they absolutely loved these programs especially the salty stories and they have almost all of these are like musicals they have a lot of songs with with just great lyrics and meaning and stuff like that so if there's any listener out there who is familiar with any of these programs and relax too can dedicate a little bit of time to these on on upcoming shows. Let us know because i would love to do it but i just didn't think think there would be enough. People interested in that so i never have but after talking with austin. He said he would be interested in thinks that other people would be as well so let us know no well. We all know that audio. Drama has changed a lot since its early days. We know that it started started way back with with old time radio. It was radio theater back then yeah one time you get to listen to it. You miss it. You miss it exactly yeah. I mean we kinda remember what that was like because of the early days of odyssey only on yeah. You missed that one then you gotta go. Ask your friends. Did you hear it well. Tell me what happened because exactly so things have have changed a lot. We have digital outlets now. Of course things are all recorded in a lot of their some broadcasts from all time radio that certain episodes. You just aren't gonna have either. They didn't get recorded or the masters. Astor's got recorded over or you know things happened so we kind of wanted to chat a little bit about as a consumer for you. What is the best way for audio dramas to get out there and what makes it easy for you to decide to pull the trigger and make a purchase like i think that's an interesting to talk about and we know that a lot of industry mr professionals are listening to this this podcast as well and so i think it would help the industry to find out what people think about this yeah yeah. It seems like it would be quite em- formative especially since we're having to play with so many different ways of getting audio drama out there right now streaming cetera cds. Does that still excite people. What do we do yeah exactly so you you have the digital outlets where your you know your typical typical months like i tunes amazon music or google and even that like we know that apple's moving away from that branding a little bit but says i itunes like this is. This is audio drama. There's not like a place where you can go to just get audio drama in a digital form audible audible carries some but not all and the ones that they do they really really compress the audio on those right and so you you lose a little stories still there of course but you do lose a little bit of the nuance of the sound. The sound designers worked so hard to make these sound so amazing. I hate that you have to listen to a file. That's been crunched down and you you you lose. Some of you know right. Then of course the the method that's been around for are longtime c._d.'s. We know that a lot of people still want that c. D. copy even if they don't actually listen to it on the cd. They like having net physical item put on their shelf or whatever right i own this yeah not gonna lose it somewhere my my computer crashes or whatever we'll have you or if the company that's hosting decides to stop or whatever yeah sure and then a few years ago there was this huge huge flood of audio dramas that were released as podcasts now of course podcasts free yeah so these people are not making anything from the physical release of that audio drama most of them if they're making anything it's through either crowdfunding adding continuous crowdfunding patriot or something similar or ads in the episodes yeah which as a listener i have no problem from with an ad in the lake so if i was listening to adventure sonatas podcast i mean i would. I would care if there's an ad in the beginning at in the middle and at the end silence. Here's what happened on the radio and that's what i was thinking in a podcast. I really felt like i don't tell them that the thirty second best for or but is amazing intervention business yeah of course the data says the people don't do that. There's like twenty percent people something even less that actually skip the ads. I'm part of the minority to actually actually i will say this. There are some podcasts accused of a little sidra but still talking about ads. No it's relevant so there are some ads that i listen to because they do it in such a tactful way in amazing like they just a fun way and they diet right into their show like oh that has dropped an ad and fine with that totally cool totally fine that's great and there are some shows where i appreciate the content that they are doing so much that i will listen to their ads because i want to support them right and a lot of times. It's the same advertiser for episode after episode after episode but you know when they switch it up a little bit they don't just read the same exact copy every time i don't mind it as much and i'm thinking of one one show in particular. It's a storytelling show. It's not audio drama. It's just just a narrative just <hes> one voice but he has intentionally not put mid roll ads in his episodes because is he doesn't want to break up the flow of the story that he's telling mid roll being in the middle in the middle right in the middle of the content town. Yeah thank you should. I should have clarified that but but i am i appreciate that he's he's intentionally made that decision to put all of his ads at the end now. He knows that there's going to be a significant number. The people that once they reached the end of the story they're going to bail yeah but there are those people who are going to stick around and listen to the ads and obviously they're paying off for him. Because is he still able to bring in those same advertisers so people are using the codes in there so they can track it. You know it's all done with tracking to make sure that it's actually paying off for the company but i feel the same as you. I mean if if the content is good i don't mind an ad or two now when they get really long or just they just go on forever and ever minute after minute after minute. There are some shows out there that i finally just unsubscribe from certain tech show's just got tired in the six seven eight minute ads yeah exactly yeah well. I think the bottom line is it can be done tastefully and and in a way that is not like kidding you over the head like a some crazy radio announcement yeah this saturday yeah you know. It's just ridiculous ads some car salesman yellen at you exactly kidding. I will say one more thing about ads in podcast kind of a pet peeve of mine if someone is going to do i really like it when they put the link to the ad in the show notes oh yes yes. It's just like i show notes are awesome. I love show notes and i know it's like takes. It's timely and you know but if there's one thing that you're gonna add to the show notes. I think the add link is like a definite 'cause. I've listened to stuff tough. I listened to shows before oh really want. Check that out in. I listen to my podcast. Catcher is apple podcast. You just swipe up to see the episode notes and i'm expecting to see a link and there's no link and like all right so now i have to go and search it and find okay yeah. It is a few more seconds but it's much easier just has to click that link and i probably would never looked it up. You know anyway side. No if you're gonna do ads make sure to have that link in the the episodes yes yes chapters and those are those are good to just saying every time we talk about podcasts. I'm gonna mention chapter raising. I'm starting starting to see a few more shows. Start utilizing chapters out. We're getting a little nerdy here but <hes> because apple podcast started supporting in them. It's the biggest podcast platform so make sense biggest podcast player or whatever yeah so the problem with podcast for the the producer is again a lot of times. It's hard to get a sponsor without an audience exactly sure and to get an audience. You have to give them something to listen to. I sure her and then it takes time to build that audience up so you either have to have a lot of money going into the project or be willing to bootstrap it. You know cover it all yourself yeah and slowly build up to the point where you can actually start taking ads so that is why in my opinion. I'll say the majority of audio dramas released as a podcast is not very good yeah in terms of quality. Oh yeah the story may be okay yeah <hes> but the quality it just it's because it's hard to make money and when people are just doing things for free they might still really care about the project but maybe not everybody who's involved is gonna put as much effort into it when they're not getting paid right exactly yeah. You're trying to get people to volunteer to do stuff. That's gonna take away from their time and people's time has value that would be interesting to see nadia drug company joined with stitcher or one of these and they have their free content behind the pay wall. You know the the the platforms already there stitcher yeah so instead of trying to create your own rhino trying. I'm just coming at it from an audio drama company any trying to get into the podcasts world like what would be the most. You know you probably your best bet honestly would be your first episode is free yeah yeah and you hook people with your first story. The nafta pay to continue listening free retrials. That's yeah because you can't you can't charge for it without people knowing what what they're gonna get because nobody will buy it or if anybody doesn't mean very small audience. You're gonna limit yourself immediately so there would have to be some type of platform arm that as far as i know doesn't really exist. Maybe stitcher would be it. I don't i don't really know so we because we've run into that with greenhorn tales like that's exactly what we're trying to do do right is we started out with the pilot episode to try to build some buzz while we worked on season one and the goal was put out season one for free as a podcast and if we can build up enough of a following people who are willing to pay for it whether that be through patriot fan or or actually actually pay per episode if we can build up enough interest then we'll continue the show and do season two and that would be paid for it in some manner <hes> <hes> so this is still a work in progress. Will it remains to be seen how that's going to play out yeah. I think the podcast medium as is a delivery mechanism for audio drama would require a really big player not stitcher because they're they're pulling apart of the forty percent sent. That isn't on apple podcast. Yeah yeah that's. I don't know what their segment is but it's not very much spreaker. It's only a part of the forty percent. There's only there's only really one platform that would make an appreciable difference and it would be if apple podcasts allowed you to charge for episodes. He has literally the only way you'd be able to. There would have to be a big player in the space like spotify because they are maybe twenty percent or something like that or apple who would give that mechanism for payment of podcasts and i know there's a lot of people who don't want that because the ad supported model and that it ended up but and it's important that it's free and so on and so forth but if you're gonna do audio drama it's so much more work intensive. There's so much more that goes into it than just three people sitting down talking to each other recording a podcast right yeah that tell you people have to make money off of this stuff sure and for all those indie andy producers out there. Maybe some of them just do it for the love of it but it will never turn i shouldn't say never but it's very unlikely to ever turn into anything really big big and the people that are willing to listen to all of these lower quality shows to them. They're satisfied with that so so they probably wouldn't even pay for something that was just so they'd get better quality because we're we're used to this high quality stuff yeah yeah. A lot of people have never even heard turned like the amazingness of a g hinchey story like the the world building in the sound design. Just it's amazing but they're they're listening listening to this all this free stuff then even realize what's out there yeah 'cause everybody's fighting the good enough problem yeah like it's free and it's good enough. So what are you so. Why would i pay for something. I'm getting for free when they don't know what they're missing. Is you know it's the old axiom that i think it was steve jobs. What's that said. People don't know what you want until you show him so that's kind of the idea like they don't have any idea how much they would like really really high quality audio uh-huh drama because you have to pay forty dollars just to find out about it right. Oh you've not necessarily limited your audience to word of mouth communication between the people in people stumbling across you online or whatever yeah and just to jump back real quick to the digital outlets on like for releasing in like apple music or what's the android version google play google play. Yeah grew will play so to set this up. I heard this line on the radio. The other day got my attention but it said on the radio has made its way back into the home and they were talking about alexei services. They're talking about bluetooth speakers alexa the home pod all all that is the new radio back into the home. I was like oh yeah it is it really is and so if people would release east i mean how how easy would it be to be like alexa play of interested odyssey and there's your radio again. Are that because i mean it's a different generation now right. I mean eventually it'll be. I can do that because i've already purchase bottle amazon media but i'm saying if you haven't if you haven't bought it right right yeah if you they got new families coming along you know a. new people at it. He's like alexa play or siri play. Whatever i think the the streaming model might work for music well. It's obviously it's it. It can work. It's been proved over the last several years that artists still can't get compensated and it's brought a resurgence of growth in music but it has but i don't i don't. I'm still on the fence for audio drama. This is the thing i think it has to be in the public consciousness enough that apple music amazon music whoever music whatever platform it is understands that this is not like a song yeah. We can't pay somebody point seven cents for a play. It's a half hour long. We have to pay on a different scale for audio drama content for forespoken audio content for whatever yeah which is why i know that adventures in odyssey used to be on. I don't know if it's still is but it used to be on books. The audiobook platform the form of for apple where you could get them. You can get them from there. You could get them. I think from audible so going the audiobook route makes more sense because his people are expecting to pay more than they pay for a song. Nobody's thinking. I'm going to pay ninety nine cents for a book but nobody to kind of i don't. I don't think anybody's thinking to go look in books or books or i wouldn't nor i would not across it. I remember like look. I'm like why is focus on the family doing an eye books like what is you know l. e. Oh i guess i can see that you know but i would've search for music. Yeah exactly that's the thing is if they had a different model for. I don't know what you'd call it. I other audio drama while i'm hearing this term getting tossed around a lot in the space just calling they're lumping all this stuff together under this term of audio fiction and dan so they're they're putting you know narrative stuff in with audio dramas and all that stuff under that umbrella of audio fiction so that's not works and i'm curious to see if we ever get any stats and i doubt we could put adventures in odyssey did release trial by fire on an apple music and i'm guessing that's a test run. Obviously see and it's still up yet so curious to know what what's going on there. Yeah it would be very interesting because again you're talking about. They're kind of things that work differently. I guess it's true that people go and listen to the same song over and over again. The people definitely do that especially kids with audio drama though listen to the same one over and over and over and over and over will <hes> which means they're getting paid every time that that's played paid every single dime but they're getting paid a pittance for audio drama young it barely works for music and music is a five minute long yeah endeavor her and yes there's producers. It's more audio drama because there's writers. There's people who are in the control booth during the album production. There's all that stuff but it's not at the same scale as an audio drama yeah three minute song versus at twenty five minute episode exactly yeah and and then there's this whole concept of of these producers who only released on their own website and so that's kind of a catch twenty two because yes you you don't have to split your revenue with these other platforms but on the other hand you're not getting you're not making your material available to these huge audiences that are on these platforms already exactly and i guess that's the trade off. I my guess is there's probably more of a an equality between what you would would make and what they are making if they would just you know sell it on their own website. Only you know you have to go there but you only have ten thousand people who know about it so so that's your limit boom and whoever they tell about it or you can get onto a platform with millions of people charge less do something else it may come. I'm out to be the same. You probably would have a better chance of even if you just did things that were hooks like like g._e. Hinchey putting their first couple of albums on apple music. I don't know how that worked. I don't know how well it worked but yeah. There's another one if they did that and just left the a narrow. The first couple and people got curious enough to look for it then they might be able to do something that way or even if they he did that in apple podcasts and at the end or just as a podcast and at the end of every episode just said if you'd like to hear more stories like this visit that it edited what <unk> use it like as an add almost i think so and and another thing is that and i know that i'm not the typical case because we're like uber fans fans audio drama but for me if somebody releases a something and they say oh if you buy the cd with will throw in a free digital digital download as well so you can listen now right now while you're c._d.'s on the way or something like that i know hindi did that for several of their releases and i think that's great right because again. We like having that physical copy. I'm a nerd. I like reading the show notes are not the show notes but the album liner notes with all of the credits and everything like vat and especially if it's some beautiful cover art you know you just like having that and then if you try to rip from the cd a lot of times they're broken up into multiple tracks and i hate that yeah i like having one long track for the each episode or each section of an audio drama however they do it so i think that's a good move for these producers to do that. There's one other possibility the this is this is going to be kind of a weird god oblique way of coming out this but the mac app ecosystem is very healthy. There are people who build utilities for the mac that it's like one person that solves one one problem really well. Nobody else can do it as well. Blah blah blah whatever they've really very very very good mac apps out there that enable you to do some pretty incredible things but there is a company because as software has been devalued over the years more and more companies struggled to stay afloat. There's a company called set up that was able to get a bunch of these independent app developers even some companies on board with what they're doing and it's like an app store but you just pay ten dollars a month and you have access to every app that they have and and they just use you basically agree to let them track what you use and they pay the developer based on that so it's like apple music but for apps on the desktop and i've got a time tracking app that i use. That's an excellent app. It's high quality. That's the thing it's not just like some junk app that somebody threw in there. I've i've got a screen capture app that i'm using at work and i've got another app that allows you to increase the volume output of the system. Mario never have gotten any of those apps and paid for them independently but i'm paying ten dollars a month and getting all of them and they add more apps all the time so the whole point of this is in the audio drama space. There are so many similarities between in development because it takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of work. The main difference is you. Don't have to continue tacking on things to your audio drama like you have to continue upgrading software and stuff but once it's done it's done but it seems like there's enough people who love hinchey that don't know about odyssey enough people love odyssey that don't know about hinting right enough people that love jonathan park that don't know about hindi not or odyssey that if everybody would and forgive me for being so blunt get over themselves and allow there to be a platform platform that provided access to everybody yeah for one price every month. I guarantee you that it would be successful. This is this this is going back to that netflix model for audio drama. We've talked this over the years multiple times. It's been tried and it didn't work. Maybe it was too early. Then we know the developer of who's working on a project called drama river who this is exactly what he was trying to do yeah and just couldn't get the platte couldn't get the people on board right and that's the problem. That's why i said people would have to publishers would have to get over themselves for the simple reason that if you really really want to grow your audio drama reach you're going to have to do something like hinchey. In the beginning when they found a platform i don't know how they made the connection with glenn glennbeck or whatever but when that showed up on a platform with millions of people oh my goodness all of a sudden you just expanded your audience and so because of that initial thing is probably still still people to listen to the hinchey audio dramas today that never would have known about it out that access and odyssey is leaving those listeners on the table so as jonathan park the adventuresome. I know the same people asking media. Whatever yeah and i know it's scary it's risky whatever but the netflix thing he obviously slee works for video <hes> because they were able to do it and they're facing a lot of competition. Now it's kind of refractory asking funny but there's not any one producer that has so much content like disney that they can split off and make disney plus and have it go well the only people who are that bigger your odyssey at least it seems to me. Nobody else hasn't content really justify. Lamp later has a lot of stuff though yeah they really do. I was looking the other day at all. My folders lamplight uh-huh holy cow. They have done so many audio dramas. That's nuts yeah got a ton of these things yeah they probably put out the most nex next to focus than than anybody else yeah it's it's and then and then you have the whole element of everybody to do their own club or membership going on and subscription description. Fatigue is a new term that has come about because a lot of software. That's awesome 'cause software development and and and media have all kind of gone that direction with software being the same thing microsoft office is probably the biggest example you can now subscribe to that for a yearly fee of sixty something dollars a year and you're now paying for all of this all these subscriptions for everything everywhere. Oh my goodness. There's all this monthly publications so in a micro qasem of the h- you've cut live the adventure club. You've got the wise king media thing. You've got the adventures in odyssey deal. You've got all and it's like okay okay. I'm not gonna pay seventy dollars a month or whatever the total would be to get access to everything. I want yeah 'cause that's unreasonable. If i bought each one that came out as they came at it wouldn't be paying seventy dollars a month. I can tell you that right now so right right. It's it's it's tough so that's one of the major reasons do i. I wanted to bring this up because we want to hear if you have any thoughts on this you or producers that are listening. Let us know what you think is darby kurna in a toss out this question and it's kind of going back to the the podcasting but he said i'm wondering if people are more likely to listen to a podcast than buying a digital copier happier c._d. And i would say yes for some people there. There are a segment of people that that's what they want. They want stuff for free. You're not not gonna turn very many of those people into paying customers yeah so i wouldn't even consider them. You consider your main target audience and then can figure out which one works best for them for that rather than catering to people just because they want something for free exotic that making any sense that makes perfect perfect sense like if you're going to have ninety nine point nine percent of people who listen to podcast never pay for anything why produce an audio drama i'm and put it out as a podcast yeah. Why would you do that if they're not going to convert to a revenue stream that doesn't make any sense either because you're never gonna make any profit with that and that's the thing is profit is just the ability to pay people so that they can go pay their mortgage. That's all profit is even though it can be considered a dirty word right. It's not without profit. None of us would have jobs so for profit okay. So what about radio is that even in the picture anymore. These days like does does it on. Your drama need to be released a radio to help build an audience. Here's an interesting point roy mentioned earlier. The radios does kept coming back into the home through these smart speakers. I know alexa already. Does this and the home pot will be in the fall. I can i'll be able to say entreaty. Tracy can already say whatever hey dingus is a popular one. I understand it. Hey dingus reason why she's not saying anything. 'cause i'm muted her before. We started the recording so play k._f._y._i. Radio and it'll pick up the station the stream from somewhere because most of them broadcast online too and just start playing it and you get all the benefits and non benefits of radio you get ten minutes of ads for every twenty minutes of content. You get all that that stuff which drives me nuts the more i listen to our local radio stations the the more consistently. I was finding omegas like fifty fifty fifty. They're splitting up between actual content and reads between actual ads with the fully produced ads and this in sponsor. I read from the host this pointless you know what i did. I started getting the podcast afterward. I listen to the radio because a lot of them released their stuff as podcast and then i can just skip the odds of i want to us true yeah and i don't have all this station break ads right right. It's just the host rates. You're talking about the actual advertisements as mints in the brakes exactly yeah so it's really interesting but radio might not be a bad deal because that is coming back back in. It's not dead. It may have been on life support for awhile but i think it's it's not going to die anytime soon because right now. I think odyssey might r. n. Lamp lighter might be the only ones that are being aired on the radio right now. I don't think focus on family. Radio theater still is maybe they are. I can't recall i know they i know they revived for a while for a few years in may still be going but i don't know but i don't think hinchey has ever earned. We keep saying hindi. It's airline had ever have released. There's radio jonathan park used to be but i don't believe it is anymore. The advantage not on radio you know so. I don't unfortunately all of our talking about this is without the benefit of actually having internal information about how is the apple music thing going for odyssey. How did it go when they when they put all their stuff on apple music for those like two hours. How how how is the club going. They're obviously able to sign up enough people to cut the price. They said that was their goal from the beginning. They obviously succeeded. How is the live the adventure without without knowing all stuff we don't have the i mean we can have opinions on it but very informed opinions virtually and we haven't even mentioned thus far these proprietary things like what air theater did. They created their own digital platform. I guess yes that you can listen to the the robin hood stories or whatever but it's only in their platform which i'll just be honest is terrible terrible for for the consumer experience is great and then and then focus did that with that flex player thing where you could download and it wasn't really obvious obvious that you're not. You're not paying an m._p. Three file you're buying access in this your platform and it's just it's it's yeah you know we have always been advocates of the paying the producer they need to make money. We understand that but you also have to think about the end user to yes yeah. There's a balance yeah and who is our end user. You know churchgoers in the main. Yeah we're talking about autism for lamp letter for take maybe on the border and jonathan park churchgoers and just doing the random cursory search on google. I think the latest is less than twenty. Percent of americans go to church thirty times a week or something. I'm just trying to like and then then so were going with that is like technology is like slowly right. Would you like slowly like we're in the church like catching <music> up to it very unusual investor. Who's usually behind a little bit yeah at least some everything we're talking about. Those is like on on the leading edge segment of i would say the fandom for odyssey and jonathan park our home school families yeah uh and they that's this is not i mean i'm speaking from the inside. I was home schooled brush my schooling right. They are typically the far far behind sometimes five ten years behind the tech in homeschool yeah so so i'm just saying what my point was is is like we're talking about podcast and all this stuff in it but it'd be interesting to see what the numbers are like. What like you were saying andrew. Like what are people are they buying. They still listening to the radio are they. You know i'm sure as as technology catches on more like the home school communities in other areas these platforms will probably the work but my my whole thought was. Is it taking this long because you know we're still a little bit behind like obviously could be a factor sure. I'm sure it's affecting it to some extent yeah that would make dostum since my whole smartphone right has definitely helped yeah because everybody has one for all intents and purposes. Everybody has one gives everybody the access to. Let's say boy club dot org. The app is which is terrible by by the way odyssey please update. You're out tune screen and oh my goodness. It's awful anyway but when i remember back in the two thousands or probably i'll be like two thousand eight thousand six. His kids came out with a wifi radio yeah that they did. I forgot about that yeah and it disappeared but it's what alexa it's what you know what it was touting. It was like just you know just click the button and it automatically hooks up to the internet and it plays all your favorite audio dramas yeah yeah it. Was you know all the c. h. Stuff was on there and all this stuff. That's a good point. I mean we didn't even mention that that's that's an distribution point for your audio drama yeah but again. It's they really are catering towards kids like there. The governor don't even play some radio theater stuff just because it's too old for for their target demo right so i mean you saw that we saw that on the state but it's probably too early. It was like cutting cutting edge. Everyone saw like i remember seeing like why hooks up to the internet. That doesn't make any sense but now it's like. Oh hooks up to the yeah exactly exactly but now like that technology is like oh. Oh okay yeah that makes sense you know so. We need to a his kids for older kids. Yeah we can put all of this stuff on one radio jio station. I know see that's the thing is like. I always come back to these simple. In theory complex execution yeah yeah okay for some stuff that has shut down like paws and tales like the h. ministry stuff they could reopen a revenue stream by putting it onto a player like whatever fill in the blank audio drama subscription thing yeah. I know odyssey has their own thing so what why would they if if they're gonna put it on apple music why couldn't they put it into places that people just want to get odyssey go taty and get just odyssey but if you wanna have everything go over there and get the fifteen dollars a month yeah thing that will give you access to policy g._e. Hint and then let's bring this down to down gilead lane and salty the singing songbook okay old stuff stuff. That is no longer in circulation stuff that you can't really find easily anymore. Why wouldn't you do that especially for these companies that are not necessarily defunct but they probably still owned the rights but they're not doing anything with this stuff anymore. I've eating anything new and and nobody's finding it. I mean with very rare exception. The i'm sure they make like a dollar a month or something. Oh somebody discovered this year or something like but having one place where everything that is mainly okay christian audio drama not just family fry but let's just say christian audio. Drama is is found yeah okay. Even that would be way better than what we're dealing with now. Which is you know. The g._p._a. Is eight dollars a month. The odyssey thing is is ten dollars a month. What's jonathan. What's the wise king media thing you know. I'm not sure i don't remember how much that is our crack research team. Will i'm sure philipson on the dietz but if everybody was kind of willing to back off the like this is my little fiefdom thing and we're gonna control it all that then i think probably we would <music> have and guess what they wouldn't have development costs of their own apps. Necessarily there's so many things that could make it better ten dollars. A month author jonathan park unlimited so so far we're at two twenty five dollars a quarter which comes out to about eighty dollars a month ten dollars a month for odyssey. That's eighteen. This is now thirty dollars a month basically for jonathan park odyssey and and she hinchey now significant difference with villa villa adventure club is you do not automatically get access to the full back catalogue. Yes you only get i subscribe going forward and you can just just the older one set it just just had a slight discount is not very much so which i think is a mistake on their part but yeah everybody's experimenting with different things and if it it works for them why would they change is usually when unfortunately when you get caught up in those kinds of discussions. It's hard to change people's mind again. We don't know the inside information of a family member recently got apple music and the first words out of their mouth was so what stories can get on this. Oh interesting very interesting interesting <hes> they're paying their ten dollars a month and they want whatever what can i get everything because and again they didn't associated with. Let's go to books the books happen by audio d- through whatever let's go by the louis moore's audio off of the books thing which is where are those live by the way the louis l'amour audio dramas live in books. They don't live in apple names. Everybody i always look for lulu apple music hoping this show up i own. I own own the sets. The three sets of the baudry audio dramas all put together and i forget that i own them because they're in the books thing and i don't go. That's funny any wow so. I don't go in there very often so nick guy private. He's on apple music on his do play as well yeah well. I don't know if we've offered any answers here but we talk through things that we've had a lot of questions questions lead up. Let's create network called porchlight family made media and make it like at the center and we'll have a store. Everyone go producers out there if you're interested. There's something like that. We will make you know our goal to get the word out about this stuff. That's why we started this show. I mean we we stepped in right where another podcast was leaving off talking about an just at that time every lamp ladder had just started and we not before and then like we were just right on the leading edge of all these other companies starting and like this is great. You know it was perfect. You know and that's like like you said j._d. That's our whole entire. Goal is we don't because we meet people and talk to people in churches shows and conferences in like oh you doing that thing oh yeah and it was the first thing they talk about odyssey's. We'll have you heard of this. No have you heard of lamberton. Oh have you heard of louis. It's it's like and then because i told them when they go home three or four hours later yeah they actually do it or the thing that that roy told me about that exactly uh-huh i can't remember oh well yeah exactly whereas if we could say look let me see your phone go to family media dot com. I'm just throwing that out there. You the world popped into my head and you'll find all kinds of wonderful audio drama that you can. You can buy it right there. You can do whatever you want to write their and you'll be able to discover so many more things without having to go well. Let's see let's go to lamplight or dot net. Let's go to the audio dot com tom or what. It's not that anymore. <hes> let's go here. Let's go there. Let's go everywhere and find all the audio drama instead just go here. You know we could even make it more generic cicala family for in the audio drama dot com verbose but whatever okay and wow business meeting right here yeah yeah. You're gonna run it. Everybody maybe not the best idea so we talked a little. A bit are a lot a bit about distribution and how it's changed in how these producers kind of need to move with the times but i i think the core of audio drama there's still those essential elements for good high quality audio drama and i kind of call those the four pillars and we have acting music composition sound design and script writing so to you. Why are those four. Everything's so important to all be high quality. I think there might be some elements of audio drama that you don't miss if they're not there but those four are obvious when they're lacking even when they're just not as good as normal if the music is kind of cheesy and you've heard it before like where's assist tuned before i feel some kind of canned musical or if you if you know somebody's walking around in a room in their footsteps are louder than their voice or something you know when it's bad it's really bad yeah and if any of the any of those four things are missing. It has a huge effect on the overall production now. There's a you are actually talking with us about this. The other day as well there wasn't independently created audio drama that started listening to you because i'd like to check things out see what's available out out there and first episode. It was okay like the audio quality and the story itself was actually really pretty good and so i kept listening and second third episode and one thing that i kept noticing it just really stood out to me was it was very very obvious you could tell that all of these actors were recorded in different places and and it sounded to me like not a single thing had been done to try to mask that fact now there are things you can do. There's noise filtering and there's little tricks where where you can actually take a track of just room tone and underlay that to every single voice so that there's something that kinda hides the the differences. There's there's a lot of things you can do and roy probably knows a lot of those as well tricks with audio editing that you can do to get things to sound a little bit more like but if there's a room that is super river baby had somebody records their lines like that and you put that in a situation it's supposed to be outdoors wars and you have one character that sound super booby and the that i ended up bailing on the show i couldn't take it just drove me nuts like well one guys outside right in the forest the other guys deepening faith right yeah. We're having a conversation yeah so to a certain extent. If there are lower production values values i can still if the story itself is good. I can still enjoy it but it gets to a point where it just like. I just can't do it and i'm i'm sure probably not alone. Especially amongst us who come from the world of listening to these really high quality audio dramas exactly we get sort of spoiled i guess by heirloom audio and in the other production houses that do such a good job <hes> and takes so much time to do great sound design great writing great acting hire professional musicians all of that. It's like that old adage like there's there's those three options fast cheap and good and you have to pick two who of the three if you can't just like <hes> i think if you basically you're saying if you get something good and you do it for cheap it going too fast. It's gonna take you a long time yeah. If you want something fast and good. It's going to be expensive niamey cheap. If you want something fast and cheap it ain't going to be good yeah right right there. You go yeah so it's really difficult. I think in this modern space where people are really wanting stuff continuously all the time but they don't wanna pay a whole lot for it or they want to pay it all. They wanted to podcast where it's free so it's just all this is kind of coming back to. We need something in this space. I think and there's a there's an opportunity here. Oh i think so. Oh yeah i was just this is sorta random. I was just thinking. Doesn't this kind of exist already. A christian book dot com has a lot of these audio dramas on them and the problem is christian book. Dot com is not dedicated to audio. Drama amazon. Dot com is not dedicated to audio drama when you go there. You have kajillions things to look forward to fine. How're you gonna find what you're looking for. You still have to know that lamp lighter exists. You still have to know that jay hinchey exists you still have to know about all of these things in order to find them but the power of one place. That's that's all it does. There is nothing else that happens on this website other within this audio drama stuff on place dot com with their is actually website christian audio dot com. Oh oh see i yeah there yeah but this is a it's like the christian version of audible sure so oh all of the titles on their you know quote christian. They do have classics as well sure but that's an opportunity that i think they could move of into if they wanted to have okay. Here's our audio book section. Here's our audio drama section. You saw it needs to be something where discovery is easy. <hes> and that's the main problem again. How many times have we talked to people. I don't know you know about this one or that one or the other thing yeah but as long as you have some kind of threshold for you're making sure that these four pillars are kind of observed. I guess there would need to be some quality control. That happened here because you could get some really interesting stuff on you could i. I feel like there's a fairly large opportunity here and i think that platform heels four pillars keeping that holding up that platform of audio drama it's going into into our ears. You know all of us. We we listen to something. We'll give it a chance for a few minutes and then if we don't like it yeah done sometimes sometimes i'm like. I really want to get into this okay. You know i'll i'll stick with it and then okay. Maybe the next one's better but whatever yeah when you say the four pillars i i'm really visual so i see it like you know those four pillars in just in my mind i was thinking about it like putting an order you have you know sound design acting script and then music you know you take those i those two in the middle acting and the script out of the whole thing is bose in yeah yeah you can have really good sound design a really good music. You take those two. It's still stands. The platform still stands up. Will you take you know what i was trying to think like that and by taking you mean they're not yet your we knew that pillar or or or if it's not there at all if it's just not up to its today to are up to the right yeah they all have to get the same height but maybe a week fillers through the whole thing teetering a little bit you know you can tell that there's something off but it might be okay if the sound design and the what was it you said music right yeah music on the if the sound design and music or just okay and i think our proof of this is all time radio sure you you can still get into the story because the writing and the acting are in general professional excellent. The music is very barebones. If it's there at all in the sound design is is bare bones yeah very minimal so i think the two that are probably the most important or the writing and acting. That's that's a fair point. Yeah because i mean that's been proved by audiobooks right yeah true yeah i think so i'm still hold your attention just with the writing but i think to have a stable platform like you said we need the four right before well again we've tossed out a lot of ideas and concepts and thoughts and questions we want your feedback both both from fans and from people in the industry we really wanna you know. Let's build something where we can help each other in this space base yeah. That's the goal well after. All of that are powell. I think we're done yeah well. We are absolutely thrilled to have on the show gene boonstra creator and writer of discovery mountain from voice of prophecy over at discovery mountain dot com and this interview is conducted by our contributor austin peachy and they go into a lot of information nations like the origins of the show where it's going next and just some really great information behind the scenes. If you haven't checked discovery mountain this is one that is really good quality and they do release for free now. They have a ministry backing them which is supporting that so this doesn't negate any of the things we said previously <hes> they're still has to be certain elements involved but <hes> it's a decent program that we think you should check out. If you haven't already ready discovery mountain dot com all right austin take it away. Hello everybody this is austin peachy and i am thrilled to be talking with the creator of a a fairly new audio drama series called discovery mountain and the person we're talking to today is gene boonstra. Welcome gene hi austin glad to sit down with you and and have a chat well. It's good to talk to you and i just recently discovered discovering alan about a year or so ago so i'm excited to hear more about the show oh and two start outs for those that don't know about the show or new to it. Could you give us a brief introduction to discover enemies summary of some of the characters tour's and some of the stories sir. I be happy to so discovery. Mountain is what we call the audio adventure for kids. It is a half hour weekly episode. We create twenty four full episodes per year and in the weeks where there's not a full half hour episode road. We have what we call mini adventures so those are like seven or eight minute little storylines and our goal of course this is a christian program and end the goal of discovery mountain is to reach children and families from all backgrounds and tell them about jesus so we want the kid who's who's grown up going to church who who knows the stories to just be more engaged by them and want to learn more and we also want the kid who's never had a chance to go to church church to enjoy the drama part of it and and to be sort of drawn in and want to know more about the bible so that's just in a snapshot discovery every mountain <hes> we have a whole host of characters fun ones. The main character is jake donovan. He's a little silly but he's got a good heart. Kids love him. The series is set in this small town fictitious town in the mountains and so there's mr simon he's the founder the town and he runs the general store and and we've got a few teenage characters like jamie and kahlon wyatt and judah and and they have a lot of fun adventures so i'm sure starting al's music ban quite a story so could you tell us what was the genesis were the show well the program launched in april of two thousand seventeen so as you suggested in the intro it's a pretty new program and so where did the idea come from. Well just a tiny bit of background about me. I have done some writing of books for kids in the past and my daughters are now that one's in college and one's about to graduate from high school but as i was raising my daughters when they were young i was always on the lookout for good resources whether it was books or audio or video that taught them about the bible <hes> and that was engaging and that was fun but that didn't kind of crossed the line into the silly kind of fun. You know there's always that balance. I was looking for and so back in the summer of two thousand thirteen. My husband sean and i started working for a a ministry called the voice of prophecy and this ministry started as a radio ministry back in the nineteen twenties and as we sort of got settled into our new new rules here. I thought wow we're working for a radio ministry. Now we have to do an audio program for kids and so that's where where the idea eddie was born in and we began working on it and planning it back in two thousand fifteen and we wanted to make sure that in creating this new program we were doing something not that just we thought would meet kids needs what would actually meet kids needs and recreated kind of a youth advisory committee we were we drew in some kids from different ages and <hes> made sure to get kids some who went to public school some who went to christian school some her home schooled so they kind china came from a variety of backgrounds and ages and we just started dreaming together and the idea <hes> the idea of of setting this program in a mountain town that actually came to me when i was camping with my family and i was laying on this uncomfortable oh matt in our tent and i couldn't sleep and i was sort of staring up at the top of the tent and i thought oh we have to put the series in like a mountain community because his everybody loves to be a way and kind of that camp background so that's that's sort of the genesis of the whole thing now one of the interesting the things i really appreciate what the show is that each season or story series on kind of revolves or has at the core of a different bible story so when you write the show which you're the main writer for the show. Is that correct yes. That's right. Do you come up with a story for discovery mountain and then find a bible. I route to go along with it or vice versa <hes>. That's a really good question so my process for every season is the same and it always it always starts with the bible story so what i do is i kinda brainstorm about which story wanna tell we like to sort of alternate between old testament new testament visiting those classic stories no so maybe kind of introducing them to some of the lesser known stories but so the first thing i do is i kind of. I is ear your wisdom which bible story we're going to present and then i do my own personal study of that so i really go deep into whichever story i'm doing whether it's a parable or an old testament story and i just make sure that i individually really really really understand it. I understand every nuance of that story and then in what i do want to have that kind of solid my mind then i plan out what will happen in discovery mountain to sort of parallel that and so what actually ends up happening is that each individual season whether it's a in the beginning they were ten episodes each season number six episodes these seasons almost most become like a a modern day parable of the bible story and so here's an example of how that works and what that looks like so season eight the title of that season season is seeds of change and the bible story for that season is the parable of the sower nino told by jesus and so what i had happened was in discovery discovery mountain a couple of things happen so one of the characters plans a garden so you can see that's a really easy simple application of the parable that kids are gonna get instantly so as she's planting this garden i the seeds are eaten by birds and then next the little seedlings that do spread brought up they can't they wither in the sun and then third the thorns come in and kind of take over the garden and so the kids see that and as we make the application -cation that the seed is the word of god we see what's happening there in the garden and then we take it a lot deeper than that <hes> in that season one of our listeners earth favourite characters. Her name is madam manager. She sort of the villain <hes> in an earlier season will in this season. She goes through the experience since of having a change of heart her hardest softened and we really see that character transform and she accepts god and she she makes a decision to follow him and one of the later episodes in that season so richest we're just following along <hes> the parable of the sower and and what that represents sense and in every season as we're doing that as we're kind of telling the discovery mountain story usually around episode four or five of six we somehow segue into our imagination and we hear the bible story we hear it come to life through bible characters who voice these characters actors and that part is always the one that is not toughest to write for me but but i spend the most time praying over and being careful careful over because what i never want to do is create words for bible character i i try to stay very very faithful to the scripture and for for example what atom says it's only what we hear our what we see recorded in scripture as what adam actually says and so those bible stories really really stay faithful to the scriptures well. That's a really interesting angle ends. I really appreciate so this. Show has been around for a couple of years now and have you heard some feedback from listeners. Hell the show is impacted them. We have in that super fun. <hes> we get emails multiple emails every single day off of our our website where that's the primary delivery platform of of the program and kids right in and parents right in and you know i love of hearing from the kids. It's so much fun. Sometimes they send us their art and they tell us about different things that are happening in their lives and they have ideas of certain characters offers what should happen to them. They even have ideas of characters that should fall in love with each other. It's really really cute but i think my favorite things to hear from the kids are the this is making a spiritual impact in their lives for example. Some of the kids have written and said you know i like learning about jesus listening to discovery mountain and i want to help other kids learn about jesus to which is awesome and then they sometimes tell us that their favourite part is listening to the faith exercise which is the application of the bible principles and you know i've heard a couple of kids to they've said you know i love discovery mountain. I love learning about jesus and so i told my friend about it and now my friend is like obsessed to listening just as much as i am and that that's really exciting because that's that's our goal. That's what we want to do. We want as many kids as possible to hear about jesus exactly so i'm sure the show is very near to your heart and howell has worked on the show impacted view. It really has it really. Has you know in the program. We talk about exercising our faith. You know we we emphasize that every episode and this entire journey <unk> has exercised my faith. It really has when we began this process here as a team. You know it's certainly not just my brain child. It's served a team that was behind it but we didn't know. We didn't know how it'd be accepted. We said well. Let's make a season. Let's see what happens and it has been been accepted and we're hearing all these neat things from kids and so it's it's just helped me to trust god to exercise my faith faith and <hes> just to continue continue the process even when honestly it's not always fun and games. It's it's tough media production. It gets busy you you when you're trying to be creative when you're coming back from a flight overseas you know you. You don't feel that spark you. Just wanna go to sleep <hes> so it really keeps me going wing and one of the fun side effects that i really love. It's just kind of a fun thing but jake donovan the main character. He has a lot of funny things things that he says and we call them around here. Call them jake 'isms and what's really fun for me is when i'm working with the production crew and we just we just break out into jacomb. Give them you know we we start talking about. Things are perfecto or it's going to be a disaster and even when we're emailing each other or messaging each other ra like throw ruin these little jake 'isms and i just think how good is god that he let us create this whole universe. It's almost that exists outside of ourselves but we're were also engaged in. It and we have so much fun with it. It just adds. It's such a blessing blessing for me personally. I know a timer to. I've either read heard someone talk about. Maybe in a disaster here jake say that my head that's cool so it's affected you to love it so you are currently right now. Season ten is airing. Yes that's what what has been. Your favorite story series too right so far. Oh man austin. That's like asking a mother to choose their favourite child. I don't know if i can answer that. <hes> i would have to say that it was season six which is called being neighborly and i think the reason that when meanwhile there are a few reasons that one was really fun for me to write and i guess partially because it's different from the other seasons is the only way we've done it. This way what we did is we told the the bible story right in the context of discovery mountain and the bible story for that one is the parable of the good samaritan and so we had the kids in the uh-huh bible class with jake actually studying that parable and then instead of reenacting the parable in which we would normally do rep's owed for five we instead did a historical flashback and what we did is we told the story of the women pilots of world war two and <music>. I'm a history major so i mean i love anytime i can dig into new history and i learned so much in that. I really didn't know that there were female pilots in world war two now. These ladies weren't flying combat missions what they were doing was. They were actually ferrying airplanes from one base to another here in the u._s. So the guys were free to go and do those combat missions etc but <hes> that was really fascinating to me and being able to tie that in with a character whose is a pilot and crashes and discovery mountain and then <hes> the characters in the town respond to her in a way that you see paralleled in in the the parable of the good samaritan fun. I really liked that one yeah. Actually i think my favorite episode of discover mountain is actually from that season. Which is the last asked upset. The good samaritan that's pro- favorites of the reenactments of the bible series there with a characters and overall is love the episode. I've heard it on the how many times uh-huh oh that's really neat to hear. I love hearing that while you talked about jake in the main character he's been around since the very beginning <hes> the only just recently in one of the many adventures hurt from jake's sister. My question is will we hear more from jake's family in the future. Ooh good question so yes. His sister's name is olivia and i've already written a couple new mini adventures to include her <hes> we just we just love working with that voice actor. Her name is amanda. She's really spunky and she's really fun and so definitely she. She's gonna show up again. <hes> she's kinda like the opposite of jake she's very practical and she's very calm and though she'll show up again now as far as more of jake's family members probably one day but <hes> i have not dreamed that far yet we talked about the mini adventures adventures and those are put out weekly alongside the regular episodes. Could you tell us about why felt like it was needed to release. Something came from disarmament every week <hes> yeah that's a good question so our primary distribution platformer where people primary less primarily listen to the show is the website but we also are an all the major podcast platforms amran a number of radio networks as well but the idea of the mini adventures really was has to feed that podcast market. I don't know about you austin but i have a number of podcasts that like i have to listen to every week i just i feel like something's missing if i can't hear from them every week and we assumed and we believe that kids are going to feel the same way and so we didn't want them to have to wait multiple weeks or months. It's for the next episode wanted to give them at least a little bit of discovery mount every single week and so that's where the mini adventures were born. We just simply. They didn't have the bandwidth to do a full episode every week but this was our solution. I really enjoy hearing <unk> weekend. They come out every wednesday so on some some days is able to able to listen to it that day but wednesday's discovery now in day. It's always exciting see what new story or many vendors on there. I love that one of our employees here. Actually he's a he's one of the voices and discovery mountain to he plays mr garcia but he he he's a pastor alex rodriguez regis and he has five kids and what he does every wednesday is the kids don't get to listen to discover mountain until they finish their chores and so i don't you know if that's a good thing or a bad thing but it really works in their family. Well we were talking about the future of this show. Currently season ten is airing at the time. I'm this recording <hes>. Could you give us a look at what we might be hearing and season eleven. Yes so seasonal levin will be our third. Let me see one two yeah. Yeah will be our third holiday series and what we like to do for our holiday series as we begin at thanksgiving and we finish up kinda depending how the calendar falls <hes> right around the beginning of the new year and season eleven is fun it features. I don't want to give too much away but let me just say a little bit features some reduction in wyatt's family so for those who are regular listeners they probably will recognize that why is one of our team characters and his dad has been in prison and turn remembers it see sometimes the seasons i'll blend in my mind because i write them and then we record them and then that's like ancient history history before airs so either in season nine or season ten wyatt chooses to be baptized and so in seasonal eleven we actually have have why it's dad get out of jail and why it's baptized and there's a whole lot of other drama going on in season eleven so it's a really good. One sounds sounds exciting. I i really enjoy the holiday season so i'm really looking forward to that and we talked about <hes>. The main distribution for the show show is through podcasts and also the radio too but <hes>. I know you also have some the seasons on c._d. <unk> currently only the first four seasons are on cd will will there be more cd packages of more season. The future yeah currently our airing up to season ten but only the first four seasons on c._d. Cd but that was simply a product of bandwidth. We couldn't keep up but i'm delighted to share that we just hired a full time producer for discovery mountain. His name is steve phillips. He just started last month his first day on location here. He had to relocate his family. His first day on location here was on monday of this week and so was steve being on our team. He is actively working on those c._d.'s sets and we <hes> we have an event this summer the summer of twenty twenty nineteen that we're going to it's called camry where pathfinders get together from all around the world so we created a seasonal set that we think are are those camp. Re kids will like and that seasons nine and ten so that will be available within the next few weeks and then once we get through that event. We're going to go back and we're going to create those seasonal sets for all of those episodes and there will be a seasonal sat for for every episode moving forward. I don't know if you've noticed austin to for season four four. We created a workbook for parents and for teachers that was a special request of teachers and we only have it for season for right now but we're creating one for that nine ten cd set and then we do hope at some point to go back and create those workbooks for if not previous seasons seasons definitely for all the future seasons awesome. That's that's good to hear. I actually this past christmas <hes> family at my church and they have several younger your kids and their family and i bought them the first three seasons of discovered mountain on c._d. and gave it to them and they they seem to really enjoy some glad. There'll be more season so oddly on your more on c._d. To it love to hear it you know the next part about the cds and the reason we created them. You know honestly every episode is available at no cost online or on podcast platforms but we know that some families don't want to just sit their kids in front of a computer with a live internet connection and that's valid and so we really wanted wanted those c._d.'s as an option there and also families like them for road trips. They're wonderful just to play over and over again in a vehicle. If you have a long car trip i've looked at them too and they're very well designed packaging to they. Are we have a very talented creative department here. We really do very nice job now. This is the question sure you're probably familiar with because you've actually asked this to. Several people that have been interviewed only many adventurers. If discovery now was a real place won't be the first first thing you would do when you got there. Oh wow yes. I usually get to ask this question. I haven't had to answer it. <hes> let me think you know i'm a morning person. I am one of those annoying morning people so i would probably want to get there early in the morning and i would climb up to lookout ledge and i would enjoy the scenery and the narrow probably wanna go back down and get a drink at truckers nice cold drink and then sit out on the dock of little lake. I think that would be really fun. Then i kinda survey everything that was happening. I would love that yeah. That's awesome when i i actually heard the show i i think it was around the time i think it was last year actually had all four my wisdom teeth pulled man i had to stay in bed for a while and kinda miserable and actually listened to i think the first two and a half seasons <hes> <hes> when i was in bed so i got to really enjoy and here law them altogether and ever percents than i had this feeling from government into such like e so want that to be a real place and i think you do a great job. Bring that to life and bring that into the cozy that outdoor fun that you know even. It's one thing about audit drama. You don't need the pictures. You can play what you want in your head ed. How people say stuff how you hear things so i want to say you do have really great job. It's been a really fun time getting to know about the show oh and hearing the show as myself as a listener. I love hearing that austin. Thank you for sharing that yet. You know i think we all probably picture some of the main places in discovery mountain like <hes> standing at lookout ledge. What does it look like. Standing in truckers has it looked like because it's audio her magic machinations like fill that in and it looks exactly the way we want it to look and i think that's part of the beauty of audio. Absolutely you know i pray ray or wherever adventures in odyssey and focus on the family yes oh and their wit's end there. I think it'd be really cool if you guys were located that if you could make a trekkers or have plane rides or some like to go along with discovery mountain. I think that'd be pretty cool. Oh that would be awesome and yet you very familiar with adventures in odyssey. My daughters loved it when they were kids and we visited wit's end when they were teenagers. You know they should have been way too cool to love sitting at wit's end and having a sunday but they loved it so oh yeah it we've talked about. We've love it. You know this event this this coming summer <hes> that i mentioned earlier. We have a booth there but we're getting creative with that. Booth were making king the kind of store part of it looked like trekkers and the best part of that booth is going to be a flight simulator where the kids can actually fly blue birdie and dan honest. It's really cool. We're just talking about it before. I sat down with austin and we were saying. I think the parents are going to like this as much as the kids we're going to have to kind of create sort of a system where the kids get priority and will ruben gomez plays jake. He be there in the simulator to yet. He's going to be at that event and haven't decided yet you know. The kids are gonna all wanna meet ruben of course but someone's going to have to kind of stand by the flight simulator and and monitor traffic literally so if that would be jake. I think the kids will love it. I really do hope you have a lot of trail mix with you to thank you well. It's been so much fun to talk to you. Miss jean. I really appreciate you sit down with us and talking about the show and lennon's behind scenes stories stories about the show. Can you tell people how they can find out more about discovery mountain. Oh sure can listen to the show a sheriff be happy to so the easiest way and the place where you can also watch what's behind the scenes videos and blooper videos which are superfund would be right on the website which is discovery mountain dot com and <hes> we're also on all the major podcast platform so whether you listen non apple podcasts or google or spotify were on spotify as well so you can find us all kinds of places all right well. Thank you so much miss jane for doing this interview. Thank you to ribbon. Who's also in the engineering for this interview. Thanks for he has and we really hope that the listeners i to this podcast will go out and listen to the show because scarring now and is a really really fun. Show is not just for kids is for all ages but i'm i guess i'm a testament to that so thank you miss jean. I really appreciate your joining us today. Thank you austin. It's been a pleasure talking to you. Well that camp or that. <hes> <hes> event that jean mentioned kerry. If you want to check that out it is at canterbury dot org. That's camp o. R. e. e. eh dot org so just wanted to make sure to mention that but thank you gene boonstra for being our guest today and thank you austin conducting that interview so <hes>. What do you think of the show. Please leave your message after the joan hi data central guy johnson peachy j._d. Growing andrew minute yesterday. I received a letter from a big fan the time to chat email package for me today nausea actually just you male yes. It is that time of the episode where we get to hear from you. If you'd like to get your feedback you can do so via email feedback at audio theatre central dot com comment on the show notes or send a text next or a voice mail to six to three six eight eight two seven seven zero well. We have another voicemail from big bob he he goes. This is big bob. I'm back and i wanted to thank you for responding to my. She does cool <hes> the silver chair was a great choice and green conspiracy spiracy also if it were up to me would choose the voyage don tritter. That's i love that one. I used to play over and over again same of this overture and and <hes> so if you pick when one old time radio show that you could listen to when you can never pick never picked another one ever again the just like one episode of father knows best for something and i don't think they did too many story arcs back then so it would be probably be a little easier to pick one episode of something and also wanted to say. I am according to on a mac now on a windows computer so thanks again. Dan goes for being a cool place to get audio. Drama news <hes> alcatel immediately from the quality just kidding much better. That's awesome so why don't like revise what he said. Can we can show instead of an episode so difficult okay while you guys are thinking out. I already know what i would choose. This is was really difficult. I gauge it only by the episode that i listened to over and over. I've listened to it so many times because it's such a fascinating story. It's an episode of dimension x now. I think they may have also redone it for x. Minus one that that happened a lot back the back then but it was called time and time again and it's science fiction which i've said on the show before i'm not huge science fiction fan but that particular episode is an amazing story and right behind that is another episode again. I think it was dimension x but also redone for x minus one or vice versa and it was called star bright they both are dealing with time travel and i've always found that concept interesting and those are just amazing episodes now while you guys are still thinking he also asked us about possibly he sent in a separate voicemail but basically he was saying he knows that we want to review the odyssey albums until they've completely finished airing on the radio radio but he wonders couldn't we just released our review them quaker after they after they are on the club because he thinks majority thirty of odyssey fans are in the club which i don't think is true so we've always made it a policy ever since the beginning of the show to wait until they finish airing on the radio now we don't always have the opportunity to get to the review immediately after that last episode airs on the radio so sometimes it's a month or two after them <hes> so it is in quite a while from the time they first release on the club till the time. We actually review them so this is a question for you the listener do you want us to start hurt reviewing them sooner or are we okay with the way we're doing things now so let us know all right old time radio roy okay the old time radio so there's an episode. That's a good idea the ones they've always gone back to listen to again so i'm one i i have like my top three exactly i could pick a show. I don't know phobia andrus gunsmoke right on aw wow. I thought for sure okay. I was wrong for injury. Okay my top three. There's father's knows best and there's there's. I don't know forgive me. I don't know the episode so title but i go back to it. It's a father knows best story and and the the trash can lead gets ran over and and it's just hilarious. I've listened to that when several times when after that is the skeleton key. I think what is called or the trees three key. Listen to that oh yeah but said us this has been might be. I think it might be suspension. I've listened to that one. I yes that's a good one and next to that j._d. Turned liz. You're gonna have to help me with this. I think you actually told tell me about this. One but it's the one where the guy they're taking away all the books and they come to take him and like the last book he's gonna read the bible l. and like remember the episode of it. Oh i thought you were to say something else. I'm i'm not i'm not sure on that. One like they're coming. They're coming to kant. They're coming to throw him in jail because he's reading books and he's not supposed to be reading books and all this stuff and i think that one was an escape. Episode might have been an escape. I can't remember anyway so those are my. I've listened to to several times. I've come back to find those like oh yeah that was good again so and in the show hopefully i can get you episode titles big. Oh bob so good right off the top of my head. I know the story like i go back and find it but also title is not on the top man so hopefully i can get you a link to those jones. I guess we can do like a top three kind of thing so i beg to differ that there is nothing serialized back back then and i'm going to take a cop out although i genuinely would listen to this over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again as a matter of fact. There's a website called suit radio. I i think we've mentioned it before zero t r dio dot com i have downloaded every so that they have of the show and it's the only one that i still have saved on a hard drive somewhere worth so i'll tells you yeah yeah superman. Wow okay if we're going to do a specific episode now that entire show is one continuing continuing story. Arc story are basically they do separate stories but it's all superman's life so boom take that they got big bob on just getting this is so hard <hes> i thought of another one here in lost abbott costello who's on first <hes> the original oh yeah and goodwin there are so many 'cause they are like yeah. You got abbott and costello. You got gildersleeve gildersleeve. You've got to listen to oh time radio. I usually start in that. It's been the whole thing exactly every now and then i'll go with if i was going to listen to just one for a long long long time. The six shooter brett poncet christmas carol yes. That's a good one. That is a good one nice well. I hope that satisfies you. They're big bob. We could not come up with one single episode. We're just roll acres and we did get an email from jackson and he said he was looking at the a._l. Wicky and found the page for album sixty eight out of the blue and had the description and he noticed one phrase is in that that said meanwhile pinon wouldn't have a wonderful surprise to share with her parents come for a visit if they can ever find the right time to tell them and jackson says could this mean penny and wootton are having a baby it very well could not answer the question as simply as possible yes but we don't know what our thoughts on that <hes>. I would prefer not just me but it's what's the name of the new album. We just talked about the blue out of the blue. I think that'd be cool again. The organization's name is focused on the andrew. Sonya's fell it out f- a. m. i. l. y. Yes connie should get married. Yes penny and we should have a baby focus on the fam <hes> <hes> vam lee family. There'll be a family right now. I know i'm teasing. I'm just teasing the main thing i'm <hes> i just like to bring that up and beat on it because after phil lawler's performance on the last podcast where he kept pounding over and over again that connie will never get married. I am close to wanting to stage a protest boycott. I'm i'm i'm not in favor of boycotts but in general but but i'm getting close as little ridiculous anyway i know he explained it an interview segment on this show actually but i disagree the more i've thought about it the more <unk> i disagree one hundred percent <hes> mainly because it came across as we just don't know what to do if she he gets married figure it out behold figure it out okay anyway spoiler alert okay. If you're on the club you've already heard the first sorry second episode of the new album. Oh and you're giving a spoiler alert in advance. You are supposed to go. Yes i did this to i've yeah so they are dr. Penney wounds parents are in town and so there is nothing like this what says in the description that jackson told us that happens in that story so i'm guessing they're going to be in town to this whole album because there was no surprises. There's no surprise okay you also i just wanted to i do want to make it clear that i am just teasing. There are more types of families than just the sort of typical. Mom dad kids okay. I get that i understand. Don't write me. I get it. I'm just teasing. I'm i'm just teasing. Don't ask me exactly man and i think it's fine for odyssey to show that and actually important for them to show that not just fine. They already showed that with eugene katrina so anyway okay moving on meanwhile back at the ranch. So shandon writes an email to us saying hey gang we. We are now reduced to the gang. I discovered you guys through my brother who is huge fan. Yes just wanted to say that. I love the work that you all do especially your the focus on the family speaking of which thank you shannon for backing me up on that far in advance of knowing it would be needed. That's that's awesome when it comes to featuring audio drama of course talking about the focus of the show on family friendly audio drama. My experience is very similar to the background. You guys describe grew up listening to odyssey and radio theatre and went from there. I'm super passionate about audio drama so passionate that i made a prototype of an audio drama app called hark lowry school project awesome. I'm currently in school studying graphic design and this was a fun way to bring my passions together again. Keep up the good work love the show. Oh and the blog cheers well. I think maybe he needs to hook up with carlton drama river and maybe they got something going on here. We go this. I mean isn't this crazy that he sends his feedback in. We didn't know where we're going to talk about this. He didn't know obviously so so interesting. They're interesting. Thank you very much shannon for reaching out and thank you to your brother shoutout to brother email from dominic. Hey roy yes. I'm i. What do you know i never i andrews. Always you know what you're the cream in the. I'm teasing roy andrew and j. d. I figured i switched the order around a little bit and look at this an emoji an email. Listen plus domino like colon capital d. or anything like that all right tongue sticking out face. I really enjoyed episode one one hundred and nineteen. I actually listened from the road. As i was on vacation. We were working our way through the hinchey dramas throughout our trip so perfect timing without review. I just wanted to share this picture with you. I kept seeing these know a._t._c. Signs as driving wisconsin they just cracked me up because all i can think of was your show. I figured someone should let you know that people are starting to grade raid controversial. That's hilarious yeah no a._t._c. is that all things considered or all air traffic control or <hes> <hes>. What else have i card altering anti-tank craft. They still are too. That's funny wow picture that he sent his in the show notes. If you want to check it out out maybe a bit. Maybe it's a camp like a political thing. No man people in wisconsin must not like somebody is cheese so we know we know you're not against. I used to live in wisconsin. I love wisconsin molting against you know alcohol tobacco and carbonated carbonaio. N._b._c.'s actually stands for american transmission company. Oh okay well apparently they're proposing a one hundred plus smile high voltage transmission line from dubuque through to all the way to dane county and apparently the locals do not want that line running through through their properties hopes to be delivering literacy from place to place. What an awful thing today. The things people get upset about. I don't know all the details tales or anything but <hes> that is pretty funny yeah and he sent some more emojis laughing face tilting laughing face and laughing face crying laughing face. I'm sorry i gotta get my <hes> to hear how serious crimes i couldn't picture out the window so i found one online for you guys <hes> <hes> then he switches of the colon capital p. o. Keep up the awesome work dominic. Oh thank you so much dominic and <hes> we. We don't really care for people protesting against us. I had no idea this was thing yeah. That's funny. Well thank you for listening. Thanks again to gene boonstra from discovery mounted for being our guest. Thank you to austin for conducting that interview. We'd love to hear from you. 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Furniture

Pass It On

22:45 min | 11 months ago

Furniture

"Tone wisdom shared by The Hague's face and occasional host husband of Scotland in the pages of the Sunday post in the nineteen fifties. Will they be today. Hello and welcome back to the Pasadena. PODCAST with me. 'CAUSE on Steve Steve. You're going to talk uh-huh furniture. Today I am. I'm looking forward to talking to fund children's one of us you you just you. Would you be so excited. By the time we finish this podcast supe- also could prepare yourself right when I say financial I just want an excuse to talk about the financial I exhort with my mother and follows on my grandma's house over incidently. You have a new mytalk. Ah when women followed Dai denied within three weeks of each which was somewhat tying M my blow to con- The House and he you still has the house Largely intact the way it was going to be the tenement hosts Museum of the future. You can still go and it's tweet lived through my entire life. My mom follow bought it for top and help neo something in nineteen sixty on. It's still still lovely cheese apart from the bits that my followed onto tune but I hold it in the garden and I feel almost Feel almost solely for people who can't go go back to the place where they grew up and go into that house little bedroom and see who earlier stunned ensue. I remember blinking window item. Remember spilling stuff who've here lies a member of sneak in this door when I was somewhat late of an evening somewhat leads a good young little tired anymore. Indeed indeed yes I was sometimes tylden. We'll know of no. We're GONNA talk about furniture but but I'm really furniture like tips ups and the book. It's more like gums. Why would he? What if he brought us? Because we're GONNA talk about cleaning furniture. Okay I on board with that and we can then sort of find a reason to tell you about my mullan follows drizzle. 'cause I know you'll you'll gagging to new water sports. What sports on a French post table of easily removed with bustling? Use a piece of cotton wool and Rob Briskly Leland rylander over the spot. Mrs Come Michael. Nineteen western Dr Scott soon. Glasgow cast you much. Sh French Polish furniture. Do you have in US going to fall. It's Mr Sheen but the French fashion misuse rush. And it was kind of still is It's Hubbard Dot Com. We usually stained very walnut DONC with event at a high Polish on it hardware. Yes quick out. I believe French polishing and I think he'll get finished poetry Shot your night. Yes yeah people lined up Unites Coach over nine. You almost a name. I can have simone as in. That is nice to nice to sometimes my command of the songs from all of is somewhat lacking the Oliver. The musical only tells about a third of the story as very big as Dickens. Yeah so these are big. Recently event. A little twist listen was amazed. By how much longer is. He's brothers in Oliva scandal. Half brother style. Yeah I know you assume excited with water. Sports s leather furniture. Keep three three clocks WCHS by pushing regularly with clean meet some one pump vinegar two parts linseed oil bottle and cheek until creamy MRS fields. Such an Daunton five. So I'm notion that you guys my wonderful tips I have. I have a joke I was going to make. No you ended up change so you said keep sis say. The first sentence again is worse than his three from clocks by po-shing veep faith from Cox by waiting toes. While you're sitting on. I thought joke joke. DOC didn't go over my head. The joke went under my head. That was awful. Kony's these are pleased with herself as the person who'd written take funds so giggled. I didn't listen to the Nice. Something about Amy Amy using some America which is a distinct just off because vinegar in every damn thing one vinegar onto linseed oil. That was the smoke lovely. I love the smell of linseed oil. Well I'll say it's oil linseed. But he's a general not Christian. What'd you get if you plant linseed? I'll entry I don't know your flocks of course sorry. So what's flaxseed. Is that Lindsey same thanks. I would imagine why combine flax seats. That's just a fancy name for linseed. Anyway live a financial an old fashioned nineteen fifty folks. We'd have a smell to it. That would be the smell of linseed oil and small boys such as me route still small so much you of absolutely on feel dishonors nine. So he thought you'd celebrate me. Yes okay nutcase nutcase. I will have my revenge. I did Meyer that the the inventiveness I'm the I was listening to a podcast today. Actually talking about a lady whose mom had made makeup because she was black and you can find makeup and high street so should actually formally determine mecum good time and the fact that she writer inert Sunday poster new to mix vinegar mangin finish. Somebody added a beast just everything just a different case. I have a cleaning product for. It's called leather feed stuff. Don't have a single piece ended. I'm high support from rocket fiber Tamie just in case I didn't know I wasn't going to have and I bought. I didn't know I wasn't GonNa have any leather looking at the ingredients. Linseed oil and vinegar out. Well we'll really can acid because that's also fine with the oil huggies play on our Daba honor chill dropped it and given it some every single job. Oh you did in. The nineteen fifties wasn't a real job in less in Volta. Copious amounts of elbow grease house cleaning called ambush any moving on Greece for our listeners. And an idiom with which you're familiar I'm doing it with effort doing with hotoke nothing's was doing less using muscles muscles sought walk. Yes women kept young fit and slim by pushing vigorously you in fairness though as well. That's why a some of the dietary recommendations from passer on and other sources from this era. Look Insane in terms of the calorific value. Of course they were burning burning calories. And that's why the full English breakfast or full scholarship breakfast delicious as is supposed to be something you have after you've been out in the fields for three or four hours before that and then you can't cut your calories no supposed to be rise from your bed at ten o'clock in the morning and then one day and Friday is really gonNA. You're supposed to be getting hints and tips so improving use a pass. Not Lying in your bed. I'm going to have organised you model. I can't help it you can. And here's how economical Polish to Polish. My phone I use a social of slightly lightly heated olive oil rubbed over evenly and then pushed result repeatable shine and any scratches or completely camouflaged. Mrs Sling Penguin Cottage Kasey Hill. This camouflage because there's a change of oil in the US very small amount I bet I bet you Mrs Ling's furniture was obsolete beautifully. Smell going do you know where over was originally soul and I came to Britain shop Choice chemists the cast it was used medicinally. It's very good for you. It was just it was usually two years and the almond oil for your ears. Some human obsolete miniscule bottles for exorbitant without that helps my Iraq's I'm GonNa Slob and Wolseley sleaze administrating offering your Cheslsi again. If you're kicking them from Rome no it wouldn't fight with olive oil. That'd be viable I bit come with all vile Wolke. Beatings different thing. Any law of Toyota only to find some to my. I'll tell I'll tell you what I say we're just GonNa take take this Blake and I'll tell you what s B remember. You can get twenty percent of both pass on books if you use a discount code vinegar at checkout DC Thompson Short dot co dot check episode notes for details and terms. And here's your bonus outbreak tip to clean a pepperpot lid draw. Throw a dumbing needle with sticks thrid through the holes interesting to us by Carbon Sudas mood full vinegar. Well does once. They're finished but uh-huh actually in fitness Connie hasn't told us a recipe food. She refuses to divulge her say proprietary information. She's keeping it for the second seconds CDs of puzzle on tips all about cooking and it won't be was signed casino because we kind of handle any more of you know she's she's got cheeky all. She is just done. Twenty one on something. I'm twenty two seven. That's what it is crushed epic light not case. I'll have to cheer you up with an useful tip dogs here a stood buffoon. Tom Rubber talk to the reverse. Side of a sweeping brush will pick up dog. He'll swint passed lightly over the compet. Mrs De Bruin. Seventeen Victoria audie please but again not so helpful. My dogs hairs are men tall. You could jump of an day with what comes off of them He. He is mental health. Care the no no. It's it's one hundred percent dot coms. Like also single strands bought like collect fillon. clumps Valles ship was smart and so Kiddo Zoo on comb see as a your bus own column Zalmai Awesome Call Ball Yeah equally. Where are you going to find some rubber? What is it how did you get it? Yeah no I mean I think the clues remarks and the title I would say like For something like that is just immediately. Fill up though isn't it. Yeah so what's going to do. I think it sweeps up in a sort of an uphill to pick up motion. I think think you can do not actually people do that. Mrs Hinch does that with Uh squeegee on our stairs and stuff like that. And when she's she's been reading out the fifties temps uncovered the secret. Message Mrs Hinchey. So she's like I don't know if a low of dogs he'll all about food rubber picnic. Hafner my newell. That doesn't sound like it won't an owner state. Well squeaky does. Of course we all walk because then suddenly pulled up to this. One does have a question mark hanging using what. Yeah well she. She shows on our instagram stories. Like she's dragging squidgy along laker stairs or copper front door amount. Whatever an does collect a small kind of like shower? Jane Ask Bowl well Okay here's dust thing by soap. He's a question. How often do you go around your house around your living ingram and dust all surfaces and once or twice a week much very impressive? Chris would you know. I don't think I would either but usually don't do the hi. Spike Steve Sue. Watch somebody else. Would you be in trouble. The game the passing on twitter and this would help easier polishing when washing dust. Those don't win so the soup you will find the soup oppose. It brings up a nice Polish on your furniture Mississippi Preston full hundred ten shield route Glenn. School not work. Not Have I would do it. Ah but I do. I don't use Polish anything like that. I use hall salt. Lake City liquid wore an mike fiber cloth because I find water. Well Yeah like hot wall start fatalite quite and a basin and then I don't have anything in my foot but his Polish. I don't think publishable nobody must've window cells and stuff what would you what would you wouldn't police. Windows are just wipe Dane. Wes Dump Sponge so be cough so pain so fair nonstopping known soupy well so get honestly because I find the Polish for like just oppose leads which is always cleaning products finishing Rhoda. Yes so hot. So people organic fiber cloth peck actually picks up and removes so when I'm dusting at US Some fluffy duster thing but I wouldn't then Polish innocent. None of my friends who are pressing a little bit you talk. You don't actually have anything in your. You'd actually Polish. That brings me much what we were going to talk to you what I was going to talk about finance financial changed markedly. When I was was young? Lad It was a dress of in the displayed things. A little wasn't quite a display cabinet. There was often afforded Deng dining dining table dining room. Mike von Miller didn't have room for dining table to be up all the time but that was kept it and it was a very very dark wood. Shiny thing seem to talk dust like nobody's business but it's not sort of DOPP. Doc funnest Jehovah. I really associate with my my childhood. Yeah Yeah really really. I mean also reddish also they heavy Ashley. I'm not movable hang thank these days. We are much more keen to reconfigure rooms both within the room and then just swap actually thought that the living room do that whereas in the fifties narrowly pretty much rooms. And that was that was that I have a strange dislike the ranging from Alex things. We'll they all moved on. I did but then I plan my well recently of slaven. The I plan my dreams depending on where things will fit. And if I move about and they won't fit so like we just a minute I suppose I think it's classes a TV unit but the TV's on the wall so but it's like maybe like a fit me on and a half long long and then maybe like sixty seventy centimeters white M an. It's Olmec Art. which was bloody nightmare? Tunnel keep up dust flame uh-huh anyway but yes so that wouldn't for anyone else in the Lebanon so stay are certainly the furniture we bought into our last place which was furnished rented place. We moved to our current unfermented place. The didn't configure from this. I like the idea of moving things by up It's I think it's quite hard. It's funny I was. There was a few years ago about furniture in medieval rooms. MM switch and it would be described as new chairs and things we push back against the wall and lace in Houston be brought four. That's quite queen and interesting but the I dupleix are living was exactly that is pretty much all the other furniture walls kids she runs and stuff and then for going to who have a family meal or something. We'll bring the table in the middle of the room and leaves a modern hoses on more configured able in different ways because buck in the fifties and before one we'll have the five place. One Mole had the window one wall the door. Usually so if you're gonNA have not against the wall not took up the full and that was the only we could do. Got Something on all of my walls so I go two sets double doors in my life and him one coming from the whole into the one sent from Lebanon to the Dinan so there's two sets of double doors the TV is kind of like like a fake fire is not fake fireplace. Squad fit can have harsh that sex a few inches so the TV guide hostile. Go on because there's no rim either site for the Sofa Oh for and then the other one has a bay window that there has been window so there's let Jane Aware Gong Mulcair where we do have the sofa against the wall but only like fed no more recent asset class. I also kind of get used to people hanging. TV's high on the walls. That looks very wrong to me like that here in this room. Ah Loom Yeah. There's actually am I'm inbreeding illegal. The scientifically true. What you say Steve? Because and this as I say since Mumbo Jumbos movie this is nonsense but the idea being that our eyes are configured for looking up. We're looking at a distance the idea. Yeah uh historically Hunter Gatherer Times. You'd be if you're looking. You're looking to distance. Continue looking for good reason and certainly economically within your computer screen by should be a full like when we were sitting down. Kenai are sort of basically similar height. So when we're we're we'd start On high we said and our. TV's basically in line with ours. It's just that it's on the wall. As opposed to on our people do right above fireplaces deeply unclear set three. I suspect for some people. Television is a awed awed irregular treat of all the time and again no. It's one of these things that nobody teaches. You leave your house. You're kind of you by soften from Youth Slota in and what you should have plans. Yeah Yeah I mean I have plans that have to measure meticulously. Do you measure for you buy something unless I knew it will definitely fat. You're buying something small then. Nobody if it's a big piece of import furniture Ben yet but matter. I've never tried it because we haven't bought furniture for a long time Labor Kia in its APP for smartphones has an er function so that you can mark. I'm real virtually dropped furniture into your space. Jason you'll see how big it is. Yes I've tried that before. Wayfair also didn't seem I'm not am doesn't particularly also I wouldn't an eight clever justin. Also as well in the fifties people would inherit furniture along route. Yeah and so you wouldn't have that much choice about what had hard very expensive and the French yourself was very hard wearing a very expensive crafts ship. And so you you just get stuff from people who died or people donate to you and you didn't have much choice you make it work. And my grandma's house was one comfy seat and the rest the chairs in room dining chairs that she only use when using the dynamic talks to closer. Ah Stuffing for an unyielding course. It should be clear stuffing say to cushion yes potting such also Houston Loughlin plus a wall poster except go set Microsoft absolutely. I think that's enough on harsh here. I am join US next time. For more martinus or possibly genius from the House will to Scotland in the nineteen fifties unfor- more nonsense prosecutor in Scotland. To See if you noon. Enjoy this podcast as much as you do. We'd love if you pass it on. 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Testosterone Pharmacology

Real Life Pharmacology - Pharmacology Education for Health Care Professionals

11:00 min | 11 months ago

Testosterone Pharmacology

"Hill welcome back to the real life. Pharmacology podcast I am your host Air Christianson. Today I'm going to cover testosterone so testosterone is a medication used primarily in the setting of GME so essentially This is replacement where patients are deficient in testosterone now from a mechanistic physiological standpoint testosterone and its derivatives are found in the body. They're classified as in Anchorage Trajan in Andrew Jans or really responsible for a creating maintaining up male characteristics and the development element of male sex organs. Now you've probably heard about steroids primarily through Abuse if you follow Allo Sports Athletics Track and Field Baseball. You name the sport and Testosterone has probably been associated aided with it As a potential drug To be diverted and in addition to those male characteristics and formation mation of those male sex organs Anabolic steroids like testosterone promote muscle building. So you can imagine regardless of your sport if you're bigger faster stronger. There's potential for abuse of these agents so definitely keep that in mind with testosterone for sure now one really unique thing about testosterone her own and the commercially available products of testosterone. Is there a ton of different drug formulations. We've got got you know intramuscular we've got Topical Testosterone like Gels and Patches Oral injectable actionable as far as We've got a subcutaneous pellets. For example that are kind of time released delayed release of testosterone so multiple multiple different Avenues to deliver testosterone in those patients. That needed one really important and What I think is an important patient? Education point particularly with topical agents especially topical agents. That have have strong. Systemic absorption is that risk of incidental exposure To others that may be helping pick up medications indications or closely intimate with those that Are Using these medications. And they're on the skin and probably most concerning with testosterone Is it does have some negative impacts if a patient a female is pregnant and they're exposed to that so be really really careful in educating patients that that may be using the topical Gel or the patches that you know skin to skin Contact with that GEL or coming in contact with that patch. That drug is obviously going to be absorbed through the skin. That's how we're using it in pregnancy and we can have some really negative outcomes there so Be Extremely careful with patients. Be Sure to educate them. about Those risks especially for those Topical agents now adverse drug reactions from testosterone asteroid. So you can probably think of some of the things that maybe you've heard associated with the abuse of steroids or her Andrew Genyk Anabolic Steroids So I think Acne you've also heard the term Maybe heard the term road rage. So you can have some emotional Changes You know more aggressive agitated anxiety insomnia things like that can happen from Excessive doses of testosterone in certainly in situations of abuse where people people are abusing these for their muscle building purposes. But in addition to that. You know you might say well. Why don't you know we use destroyed a little bit more often? Well there is more risks than just superficial risk and testosterone. Ken Raise Blood Pressure. 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How to make your content work harder for you with Rosie Odsey

The Fractal Marketing Podcast - with Gerard Doyle

30:58 min | 1 year ago

How to make your content work harder for you with Rosie Odsey

"In social media driven well we are now old content for Jesus and every one of us has the ability to publish this phenomenon has changed the way we think about brands brands used to be companies than the became products and now people are brands so what are you doing to increase the reach and influence of your personal brand and how can content help with that my name's Jerry Doyle and this is rectal podcast where I into marketing experts from around around the world to help startup founders like you drive a business forward hi and welcome to this episode this week. I'm joined by Rosie odd. See Rosie is fulltime side. HUSTLERS Hinchey describes the self accidental storyteller a growth mud pretend virata and I think she's selling herself short. They're a real human but importantly to us. Rosie is a content marketing gun with a really clear vision what it takes to stand on on online and had are actually force yourself itself. Get that content ridden so rosie. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me so we've known each other for a little bit and we recently presented together at an event and I was really came to get you on to the podcast to talk about one particular thing that I found particularly expiring as you were talking about content marketing to a room full of people and that was around this idea that the biggest barriers have producing content is probably yourself. You know who we know that we want to do it with readily articles that content is king and is a key mocking potter arsenal especially when talking to start up found. Is You know these people who are doing it full themselves so they know it's important but we always put it off. A whiskey had to do it so I wanted to talk to you and and revisit these ideas you have around how you actually actually get yourself to stop producing content via business. Yeah I love it now. Honestly it's one of those things where especially for startups when you'll bootstrapping in theory it's the easiest thing you could do on your iron but in practice optus sitting down and actually talking about yourself and Your Business and why you did it and all of that those sorts of things you'll have a million ideas in conversation but when you sit down to actually write it you know a lot of people will just stare at the blank page for long enough to realize that there's probably other priorities parties in the business which may or may not egeria about oftentimes. It's a really big missed opportunity especially in early stage businesses and so I've experienced that right. I've gone on to do some content so I kind of open up grandma or a word docker Walker nine powder anything. Can I try to get started and that seems to me the worst way to actually start because you're gonNA looking grand going. Come on inspiration hit me now. How do I get around that? Where where do I find my inspiration? Not when I'm trying to yeah so I think it's really important that we will realize that writing and ideas kind of skill then not just the not a gift from above the not bequest upon some people and not others are in our festival just because you staring at a blank screen and nothing's coming doesn't mean you're not creative not interesting Israeli just like you haven't built up the practice yet so the way I started in the way I recommend most people start is start writing in a low stakes environment meant just right for yourself right so for maybe a year I did daily journal entries with myself of course. I wasn't growing a business at this time so it wasn't wasn't that urgent. It was it was just for me. I wanted to get back into writing and I would just write and every morning I would do that and then the top was on so if I wanted to point that hers I'm going with this metaphor man. If I wanted to point that hers it something else then I could and so when I actually started out doing this other people it wasn't so hot because I'd been pulling ideas out of my head for so long now in your business that may not be an option to you know just take a year to find your ability to do this but what I would say is could you at the end of every day. Come up with three things you learnt that day day right just three things you lent yeah and it doesn't have to go anywhere except notebook if you can do this for a couple of weeks as a good starting point and that's still a lot further along than most people will get with that content then you can convert that up to could you you do an instagram story or facebook live or facebook story. There are so many different platforms you could do this on or you could write or you could record a podcast so there are so many options for us to get into the habit the full aw we get out into public with what it is. We're creating a like that idea of having a notebook in and pulling the thoughts out of the day for myself and I'm not gonNA pretend that I've got the answer but from the answer that waste of me is that I've just got in Oakland I find there's a paddle and I'm trying to train myself. When I have those thoughts? I make that thing in my normal waking diet. That's an interesting thought. Oh that's an idea. That's a question if I jot that down then what might take me five. Oh I ten seconds to do then later. On during the page can actually go back to this scrap Boko Note Boko Ipad or I find ideas and that becomes the catalyst thought answering the questions that I already posed for myself. He's at the kind of thing that you'll so suggesting uh yeah definitely Sir for myself. If I look at my little repository of nights I've got two hundred fifty three in that that I haven't looked up yet and like some of it will be absolute garbage like some of it. We'll we'll be incomprehensible but every now and then even if it's one in ten that that's a gem that could be turned into an article. That's SAR good and you know we all want to avoid what we want to avoid. Is this trap of above all remember it. When it comes time this will come back to me because it doesn't it really doesn't we <hes> AL brains a more like Ram than they all like hard drives say have ideas that aren't collect them for us and bring them back out when we need them so we really need to use like the technology around us to just you know when we have the amazing insight or even that mild Insa or even that housing thought that might be something to just get down because outs yeah way easier than just just having the blank page and I like that analogy because I'm thinking about my mind paying Rambus a hard drive and the thing about the act of writing something down and filing it away in a in a place we say ongoing police out later but actually use the actor taking out of Ram and starring in a hard Dr Zang actually now can go on and clear my mind otherwise I've got this thing in the back of my head going on? You don't forget that don't forget that though forget that so I think he's probably even good friends from my or anyone. Listening working day is to go yet. You've got that question but if you write it down and now you can address Atlanta than it's kind of dealt with it you know not completely but at least you can remove it from your mind and go okay now back to what I was doing and come back to to content focusing and then I guess what I'm wondering from you is is your recommendation that people cop out a specific times where they then can come back and revisit this and say okay now. This is the one hour every day or every week or whatever it is were added content and that's when you pull out the notebook and you saw from there yes sir. There are two options with this right. Non There are three. It's just one of them is is not what I consider one options you you check it in the calendar for a nice extended block of time. I'd say half an hour minimum. You can do as long as you like. You know if you've got a half day. Take a half day if you think he can ride for that long if you're going to do that sort of thing put it in the calendar I would you know if it's your first time I would make sure that it's not before something particularly stressful. It's not after something that may run overtime really really you want to be creating content in the frame of mind that you have all the time in the world. You daren't no one ever does but you wanNA feel like that that hot if you're if you're rushing between a half hour bay day meeting and like reporting reporting in to someone else you can't in between that suddenly switch into this creative mode not at this stage if you're new to this so that's what I would recommend if you were doing it all in one and how I'd use those sessions is I would batch. I'd write as much as I could. If you finish one article with and move on to another one or if you're filming videos than film one after the other or your alternative is you can do little spurts tied to an existing habit so this is more on a behavioral thing. This is more of building another habit but I often will do my stuff. When I first started out? It would be like first thing in the morning. I have a morning retain deny just tagged onto the end of that routine so it happened every single time right and that's the best way you can try to do it daily. So if you think about it as a Tusk in your day it probably won't happen because this is one of those those things that's important but not urgent. It will never be urgent the other thing you can try as you you can hype to squeeze it in but it just again. It doesn't really happen like that so I would tie it to something else in your diet a meal brushing your teeth eighth. Hopefully you do that daily or if you're one of those regular gym goes you could you could tie it in with that and make it as easy as possible right so like your easiest possible is like if you're recording a podcast just use voice memos to begin with you can fancy fancy later. If you're writing a blog just type daren't daren't style a blog. Don't create a new website. Do any of that stuff just write stuff once. He stuffed her. That's written then you can worry about publishing it and if you're doing a video like yet don't go too fancy. They like don't worry about which platform to publish it on just record it. It'll be fine and then once you're comfortable with the configuring publishing now the third option which I alerted to is not really an option. The third option is just like not do anything and harp that it comes. Stop at some point and that's what we all do until until like Oh right contents actually important and then we go down these rabbit holes of how to do content googling content marketing as if I think it's an emergency but yes that's how I would build it into my life. If I was starting Iva and I think it's something that I do and again by no means pretending I'm great at content when I've got a morning retain in that involves get it up and go for a walk. It's during that woke when all of a sudden you know the the noise stopped looking at screens inspiration strikes I find that's what I write down most of my notes and then I found that I was walking along with my thumbs now hang on a second. I can just a voice memos so it's almost like you've seen me out. They're trying to create content but the other thing I'd say is sometimes it's good to add a firebreak via content ideas so not being on the device not said like tweeting at that ideas you have it when you go back and rated a couple of days later you might really jared is that is that you really everyone in published that though because it seems a little bit odd now in retrospect so I like it as a firebreak as well because it means you can have inspiration but rather than just like rushing an idea out that isn't completely formed gives you a chance to maybe look back on the side if it's something you really want to push out there at all. I feel like that's how some people use twitter tweet thought tweet anyway so thinking about thinking platforms and look. It's you know there's an absolute answer here. But how do people choose what platform she'll be doing. All the platforms headed. I choose what's going to work for them when they thinking about that content because you mentioned like video live and I mean I don't know anyone who doesn't find that intimidating but I also I find it equally intimidating to write six or seven hundred words of written content because that feels like hot artwork as well so are they rules that you guy by all that you advise other people around picking your platform or medium. Yeah look honestly when it's the beginning. When is the beginning? Just go on your comfort levels. You'RE GONNA remember you're dealing with a five year world throwing a Tantrum who doesn't WANNA go out and risk social rejection like as important as all of this stuff is the reason it's our hod is because really we all putting ourselves out in public and we're hoping that people care and that then not mean about it and so it brings up all of these things we haven't seen since high school right so in terms of choosing a platform. I usually tell people go with what you're comfortable with something that feels familiar because you can always stop corresponding later data if you're not on any social platforms whatsoever or you have a few but you haven't been active anywhere and you're comfortable with all of them that are would look at. What's your who's your target market? Where do they hang out mostly? So there's a lot of united right. A lot of people have different opinions on this generally younger generation instagram older generation facebook. It's twitter is mainly journalists and start up at tech people and then there are other little pockets here and there but the these not hard and fast rules there is still going to be Puckett's of every talk at mock it on any platform so really it's about what do you nor what are you comfortable with way. Could you know where could you consistently find yourself hanging out because if you make it you'll key platform. You're going to be hanging out there a bit yeah you touch on that idea there about with yet. We've been touching you mentioned the the idea of your wet is my target mock and hang out and I think that the main brings up an interesting thought which is okay. I think my target market hangs out what do I. How do I decide what to write for my target audience so okay? It's good to ride for me. That's like tick box but box to you want to have some success. Is You need to be writing something that you're talking. Market's GONNA find interesting. What's the best way to go about thinking about what I need to ride for that target market so I know it's just I think I'm targeting business owners or united startup founders as well? I WANNA find them on linked in archaic. But what do I Raj and how do I create a ton of voice and the subject matter that I can follow consistently to that audience. Yeah Okay Sorry Festival. I think it's important to remain authentic. People say this all the time and everyone's like what does that mean. I mean it has to be some facet of your real personality. It's too hard to invent another one. I'm just going to say that that now and people will see through that stuff so from the get Gobi yourself now. What is yourself? This is not an easy one to define Sir Darker trudy into that but the easiest way to figure out how to talk to your target audience chance if you're linked in and facebook this is possible this is it's probably good to check out those platforms regardless but if you can find groups where those people hang out right what you'll find if you read through older the discussion threads red sox happening you'll see topics recurring over and over again that people are asking questions about now they will be asking in a facebook group mostly because they haven't been able to figure out the answer on that aren't everyone we nar has access to Google so those are the sorts of like there's some places you can get some inspiration for what to talk about. The other thing is to remember the you're trying to help them do what they do best right. It's not really about you. You and I think that can take a lot of fear about it out of the equation because if it's about them and you know you have a skill and you know you can actually do it better than them. Then what you're doing is very very generous generous to be able to share your expertise in some way Sir the sort of content you can create I mean can you think of maybe like a handful of topics that you would love to nerd out about that. You could talk about for ages that you could just keep writing about and not get border and also you know that you know quite well. Those are the sorts of topics I would start with right and then you can break down those topics into sub-topics and break Thursday on further into pots and what you'll find is if you do this over a calendar you might have twelve topics. That's twelve months are four sub topics. That's full weeks and maybe like three pots is to that sub topic and that'll be like three pieces per week for a whole year and this is possible for most people. It's just that when we start thinking about Oh my gosh I need to create stuff to publish. We don't think what am I interested in one of my really good doc and what am I saving for them. Yeah I think it's when you break it down like that. She sounds relatively simple. That's the powerful location twelve by full by three and you like Oh. It sounds whereas if you look at that and I kind of did you know ninety six hundred pieces of content whatever number you just came up with then you think if I'm confronted with what he's saying. I'm like that's too hard but then you just actually probably is twelve topics and I can break that down and I guess the other part of it. Is it forces you to stop trying to do too much on one piece of content so rather than you know. It's a bit like a podcast like this. There's that desire other questions I want to ask you. I'm like we go there. That's a whole other topic. That's another show and you realize that just stay in the line. Deliver one message once and you probably in the best place so I think it sound advice it something that I think I definitely need to apply to what I'm doing but more importantly I think it breaks it down into bite size chunks. We actually can probably do that yeah and if you if you use a platform the short form content using twitter you just doing status updates on Lincoln facebook is actually not that much content onto right really no. It's not much and like it also avoids because I'm from blog weld it also voids what I see. A lot of people will do is they will do an insanely good fest article right. It'll be a twenty minute read. It'll be fully comprehensive but then they've like they've taken what I would consider three months worth of content and put it into one hardest that only gets one swath of attention. Sir Yeah like length is not as important as it used to be in some some places it is. We can talk about that later but I guess what I'm saying is like spread out your information. It doesn't your first one. Your content isn't measured by how long it is. It's measured by how important it is to the people that gets in front of and how interesting interesting they find it so that I've read two hundred parts that have changed my life right so you don't need to write a twenty thousand one monster to get someone's attention. Let's say for example that I have written at twenty thousand word monster like that's what I've done. You know I sat down and poured my heart into something. What do I do now like used at? I put it up there. He could have been attraction but probably didn't get as much love as twenty thousand words deserves. Is there a strategy to fix that or make better use of those. There's twenty thousand words Sir. Yes I would just pull that parse down a trickle it out in one thousand one or even five hundred words sections that might not be entirely possible. We don't right right. We don't write like that but if we can divide it into sections then release it bit by bit you'll be able to find out what hot so the most important people it will force you to think about structure as well and I think that's very important when you're riding long foam. Tom Is how you do structure. I don't think it's common that people have learned how to do this properly. The other thing you can do like once you've tested all of that content once it's gone out in little bits and bobs. You'll be able to improve on the rioting stitch. It all back together paid enough that thing and you got yourself a beautiful lead magnet. You know what I mean like. That's what we do. I would suggest if you're GONNA do long form stuff. You can have bits of it in short form and you can have the long form altogether in one but make make something out of that okay so so you said lead magnet so I think it's worth while let's let's define a little bit about what that might be recap way rats you've written along for Monaco because she was super passionate about a particular topic but you've actually covered lots of subtopics. We pull that down or we take it away from being like a public post. We cut it out. We extract out the elements. We reformatted a little bits all of a sudden now I've got maybe a hundred different posts that I can kinda pull a quite of myself that I can then use across social media. That's great. And then you say turn that long phone back into a single pace as late magnet so so what does that what does the lead magnet look like what's the purpose of the late magnet and water. I WANNA do one. I say this is why we did content right like I'm going to bring it back to content. Is We talked about getting comfortable doing it and doing it for other people but the real purpose of creating content is to find a way to serve our audience but also to attract leads like that was usually mice company stock creating content because they want more business otherwise you're you're just an entertainment brand right. Okay Sir now. If we WANNA tend someone from a raider into a lead we can offer something of significant value in return. We can ask for their email address and this is quite common. I'm sure you've done it. I'm sure everyone's done it at one point or another and these things of significant value can be a twenty thousand word article on something. I can't come up with anything at the moment but but maybe V it's like you know the comprehensive guide to getting set up as a freelance copywriter right when I was starting out as a freelance I would have given over my email address in return for that so what that means is this. You've delivered something of value in this p._d._f.. You've got their email address now and you now have their attention anytime you want in theory to be able to send them an email to get to know them a bit better you get to build trust build familiarity Melia already and let's say further down the track. I'm in a position to buy their premium service which I'm really not sure what it is because I just invented this hypothetical brand and then I've had this whole dialogue with them because read the twenty thousand would comprehensive guide. I've seen emails from them. They're irregular face in my inbox and they're gonNA help me and around something that I need and I can afford it like the these are all the things that we hope lineup so people but that's that's basically how a lead magnet network. That's great. Yes I've built lead magnets and you know I've done that same thing where it's it's a value exchange. I'll give you this. You give me your email address and we'll be friends forever. I think it's fundamental to content marketing but I think we're taking the different view. which is you know this is where you basically have created the asset that can become your late magnet which is going to use it a bit more efficiently so what I'm Cain to do narrows if you can like get out your crystal bowl and gaze into the future for the next couple of years and kind of guy will how do you say content content creation on a massive scale? How do you see that changing of the next couple of years when it comes to sort of online self publishing? Oh my gosh that is such a big question. Okay sorry so one thing I've noticed for myself and I think it's true of a lot of people and I I don't know what it might mean but we follow people more than we follow brands now right so it used to be colored brands. We trusted ex brand. We trusted eater. When I was growing up? We trusted that Toyota's didn't break down and we weren't quite sure about Samsung because they were new electronics at the time that kind of thing so it was always about the brand whereas now we trust individuals we trust humans people who endorse brands or people who are their own brands and it's changing the dynamic. I think our affiliate marketing is so much bigger than it used to be for reason because there is more trust built around an individual and what they've created and what they put out into the world then there is around a specific brand. What does that mean? I mean I think it means that firstly. If you're an individual and you have a voice and you know how to talk and you know how to write get out there and do it. I think it's really important for people to be doing that because otherwise you know your your your personal brand isn't it I mean it's basically that's what you've got. You've got company brands but now everyone has their own personal brand even if they don't WanNa become an influence your that necessarily WanNa like being instagram star and Charles Money's but we now go to I think for me every single person is their own brand where they want to or not in the people that elect this state of the people that are willing to put their thoughts out there and put themselves out there and create their own personal brand so is the thing now we're basically all self publishing machines and Aaron Human Brands Yeah No. That's totally an Thinki- you found the words. I couldn't find nicer yeah. I think that's that's definitely true and even people who have fulltime jobs companies that they love right. There are still individuals who shine as an employee and that's great for the brands they work out but that's also great for them. These people you know some people still get pulled speaking gigs and things like that and also you might not at the same company for your whole life right so all of the tricks we used to play with resumes. I mean those are things we have to play now. In the context of you know is the bigger picture where all the world is moving towards it. Being about the individual the world is moving towards the fact that we are going to change careers a heap. We're going to change jobs a heap and can you keep a consistent interesting message. Sage can you be a person who has an idea whether going and some story to tell regardless of where you are and I think that this is what I say really being the influence on like how content creation changes online because I think a lot of riders have hidden behind brands in the Pasta and I think a lot of brands have just been their entire public presence might not end up coherent because it's twenty seven different writers in it and I think that's changing so I don't know what are your I think you've happened across the global liquid gold why beyond content here but we're talking here about a generation generational changes right so my parents may be changed job once in their life and I'm a little bit different. I'm going to change jobs like ten twenty times in antenna already and I'm only forty but more and more generation GonNa come through and you're gonNA change jobs all the time and not even just gig economy. We're talking about people who will just become contractors and freelances and that's just going to be the job they can have multiple bosses and I think the people who might find themselves a little bit left out of the loop here if you are into the Bulk Standard Weld Wego. I've got a degree. I'm an accountant. I'm going to work at F._M.. You did a great job but Joel sphere of influence might be five or six people. That's career limiting. If you're if you're an account working same place but your tweeting and blogging and posting recording all the time yes the company gets a game but you'll building up your brand of you and that brand of you is the thing that you're going to carry through your entire career and I'm just saying more and more people on finding jobs on sake as much. If you throw your resume Ryan to a public institution with thousands of other people the best jobs the fund jobs jobs you want to do those jobs will find you because they will find your content. I will find your brand and so you know I find myself as a dad looking at my kids and going how do I quit my kids but the best opportunity and I do start to think about it in one hand. I'm looking at you know these. The constant obsession with young tain retains posting online but actually what they're doing is working on their own individual brands because that's going to be the thing that carries them through and I've got to shake shake off my kind of the generational bias Ingar actually the smartest thing my kids can do learn to learn and learn to brand themselves if they can get those two things right then they're equipped for foster changing society so that's that's what was like parenting advice but I think that's why we were going thing with this chat and you go okay. This is what it is and this is why everyone is now in individual self publishing content machine because their own brand and your brand is what's going to get you your next job your next interview and you're GonNa cop through all the other noise and you're not just going to be achieve and you're not going to be known to your three colleagues to subordinates in one boss. You're going to be no into the greater populous yeah so. I think there's a whole I think what we've done is. We've created this career advice point so if you if you're a founder of a start up yep show Yuri to get l. this European and and you know I hope podcast getting that dough and follow that if you're a WanNa be found if you wanna be started but you want to do something different you listen to this and you're in a salary job. Great focus on your career focus on your topic of interest stopped publishing E._S._l.. Yourself for the betterment of the company the firm wherever you're working they will gain from it but start working on your pest will bram through your own professional thought bums and you know the more likely to get picked up and head hunted by competing firm or maybe even break out in your arm because you find your own business development machine because people are coming to you for accounting services and advice yeah so I think we've basically gone from how not to write content right through to set yourself up for brilliant career for the rest of your life so you know I know small thing here. Is You have just solved the world's unemployment crosses the next look. Thank you so much that took a completely different. Turn now got this Philip Process and I need to stop either. 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"Hi. I'm Emily Lau and I'm tiled catcher in and you're listening to another episode of the accessible all. Are we still quarantined oh you bet we are. What are we going to talk about today? Emily. Well, I think quarantine has driven us to the point that we're ready to examine complex topics. So let's talk about gender and disability Do we have to? Yes. Because it's really important to understand how social construct. inter-plays plays with disability. Okay. Go Tell me how to how it goes. Tell me how does oh well. That's a hard question. And I would say there's a lot to unpack here what you. I would I was. Yes I now. Okay. So this is a huge topic and we need to give the very important disclaimer that we're going to be speaking. Only for our cells, that means I am a white woman. I'm six gender, which means that identify as the gender that I was assigned at birth I, am heterosexual. Did I listen to everything about myself. Oh, I'm physically disabled. So, as a white fish gender physically disabled straight woman. The only opinion matters less than yours is mine literally. No I echo. said. Except that I am a man assist gender. So. Get Ready. Well I. Think it's important that we acknowledge that because. Our experiences are definitely colored by artists abilities, but we also come into this conversation having a lot of privilege. And we're going to be speaking strictly for ourselves how it will our gender identities relates disabilities. We are not going to step on anyone's toes or anyone spaces where we don't belong. And I think it's an important lesson for everyone to remember that they can really only speak to their own experiences at I know it sounds preachy here but I just don't want anyone to think that you know I'm trying to put myself in their shoes or anything like I very much understand that I have a specific experience as the person that I am. So. I'm that. I'm actually really interested in talking about the concepts of masculinity and femininity as it relates to disability. It's different than talking about the social constructs of gender itself. But I think that sort of performing gender is something that disabled people actually do experience in their own ways. because. We have so many other stereotypes placed on us but I don't quite know how to articulate what I'm saying. So I think the point of episode is actually GonNa meet unpack that. I think you're absolutely right. Would I don't want to see them in a push back on you a little bit, but I'm going to ask you a question. You interesting term that I don't think I've ever heard called performing gender. You just said that but I feel like most gender expression from anybody. Is a performance like that's gender is that is how we determine the gender of someone is, is by the way that those people sister trans or anything in between present themselves. We label those things I'm not saying that makes you incorrect or correct but I am saying that I think you're right and having a disability. Sort of colors that in a way that people without disabilities just plain old don't have. When I save performing gender I'm talking about specific things that try to push you more to one particular at the spectrum of masculinity or feminity. So you can identify as a woman and not be Super Feminine. You can identify as a man not be super masculine and I think there's a lot of in between there but for me I identify as a woman and in some ways. I am not feminine at all and other ways I try to push myself to be feminine because I feel like I need to somehow compensate for having an apparent disability. Yeah I I agree with that my disability is not as apparent as yours. I wouldn't say that I I used to say that I have an invisible disability I don't really say that anymore unless I'm like sitting down, but it certainly is a lot more invisible than a wheelchair strapped to my but so I guess Sort of because I. Know you it. It's sort of. To me that you would hyper fixate on certain parts of your femininity to overcompensate for the. the appearance of my disability. Yes. Thank you. Sorry. This is not coming to me. But. As somebody with less apparent civility I don't really have that issue at least on its face where I come into those quandries is like when I'm striking up a conversation with another man. Is when hi like right up against the face of like was it really mean to be a man anyway because I don't even I. I mean I'm speaking broadly in stereotypes but like your average dude I just don't nothing that he says is relevant to my life. Which is so strange to me. Can You allow? Yeah like. I do not like stereotypically manly things. I. So. What's an example of that and I'm only I? Know you're. Like for example, like my dad is a management, he's six foot three huge muscular mechanic. Most of his life you know likes to fish. I'm none of those things. And I'm not saying that like that is like V symbol of masculinity but for a lot of men like things like that and behaving in that sort of way. is part of what being a man is and even even like. Even, things that aren't superfluous like your hobbies even things like how you perceive emotion like I don't care about crying but there were men who would like take a knife to the heart before they shed a tear about it because they think that makes them look gay or something. That's a thing that a lot of men believe. Toxic Masculinity I. I know what I'm saying like I'm not saying, I, don't have any of it but I am saying I think being disabled means that I have to have less of it because I cannot. achieve the same level of what men think manliness is than your average man. If that makes any sense at all, this is super interesting to me because I would almost say that a lot of the disabled men that I know buy into toxic masculinity more. So than non-disabled men I mean I've had disabled man who act like they're completely entitled to me. Yeah, it's this weird over compensation for their disability I think the way that they. Approach you as though they're owed something because you know the world. kicked him in the nuts if I allowed to say that. Well as a as a man I'm giving you a kick in the nuts pass but the thing is I don't actually think that disability is nuts I just think that you know sometimes the disabled I have encountered actually have this very odd sense of entitlement. I don't think you have that and that's very interesting to me. I mean, I'm not gonNA say that I'm free of toxic masculinity implicit in society and I'm sure infects in ways that I don't even realize. But yet that I do not have I do not now nor do I ever think anyone knows me anything for any reason ever at all. You also didn't mention the big example that we were talking about when we were just like brainstorming episode sports. Oh. Yeah. So When we were talking off camera. So to speak I said to emily as a joke but it was now that I'm thinking about it a very serious thing I said to her do I not like sports because I don't like sports or do I not like sports because I was born this way and I can't play sports. So they just never were interesting to me because I couldn't participate in them and I told her that I would never know the answer because I was born this way. Do you find yourself feeling that way about things that are typically associated with feminism. Yeah I mean although I will say that even though sports is not typically associated with being. Feminine. I also. Struggled for awhile with the fact that I wasn't really super into sports that I wonder if that was just because I can't physically play them. So I think that there's definitely more of a disability aspect than gender aspect but the thing is that you know men are expected to like sports. If we're going based on stereotypes so It's just interesting to think about how gender plays into likes and dislikes and preferences, and then how disability compounds that. Absolutely, I. Think Actually your example Kinda nudges me toward the disability aspect more than the gender aspect, which is actually very interesting that that my disability matters more. Yeah, and in this case I think disability kind of tips the scale a little bed. But for me in terms of you know feminine any I struggle a lot with things like. he knows very sexy outfits or wearing high heels and I know they're wheelchair users who wear sexy outfits in high yield but I find myself overwhelmingly uncomfortable both from a practicality standpoint like I physically cannot do things like strap on a giant pair of high heels or Stiletto and I physically cannot zip myself into some tight sexy little leather dress over here but sometimes I have to grapple with. Myself and I feel actively bad about myself because of it's still even knowing the gender of the social construct. Even being in. You, know a solid long-term relationship. With a man who tells me that he appreciates how I look I still feel like I wanna be more feminine for him. Oh. Yeah. I. Mean like if if we're talking about how we present ourselves, I you know that is another place where it affects me to like I can do where traditionally masculine clothing but I also because I was born this way always gopher comfortable clothing I i. don't think that that makes it less masculine, but it does mean that I don't wear like a button down shirt every day because those kinda sucks to put on and that like wearing a suit looks great but it takes me five hundred years to put it on and make sure it looks nice. Yeah Dexterity is a real limitation walking in dress shoes. Actual joke, right? Even, things I like I love to shave I think grooming is like it's one of the more. It's one of the most they're typically Manley. Things I do it's like a whole. It's a hobby of mine but a hate actually doing it. Like, I love the sense and the all the things that go with it, I love looking Nice Nice. But the actual act of putting it razor to my face is like a nightmare because like one slip and all of a sudden I have scars on my face. There's there forever and I know that's true of anybody shaving especially with the stuff that you use, you use like fanciers but I mean at the same time limited dexterity really affects that I actually was going to bring up shaving as an example for me to be. Sitting a wheelchair and not being able to physically stand means cheating is. So difficult for me. Marriage is areas of my body that I physically cannot reach to shave and so from the longest time. I decided I. Wasn't GonNa Shave my legs but then I decided that it made me feel good to shave my legs and so I would do it and then I would cut myself because I was reaching at an angle and I would miss spots and it was such a waste of my time like shaving could be literally a couple hours production for me and so I finally started paying for laser hair removal on my legs and I feel like that's a big thing to say in public. Space Especially because it's a privilege to be able to pay for laser hair removal you know and I understand that like hair in the normal thing on your body and it's OK. But for me, it became one of those I do not feel as womanly. I do not feel as attractive as the woman because I have hair all over my legs. Therefore, I'm going to pay this inordinate amount of money to get singed off of my body. I don't think I would. Honestly if I wasn't disabled, I, suck it up and shaved like everybody else. That is really interesting. Wow. Actually. Had now that I'm really thinking about it. Even, though I am a man and even though no one ever mistakes me for anything. But a man, I've got this this voice that makes me sound a lot more manly than I am I find myself. especially when I'm interacting with other men but not always. Sort of. How I started this sentence wrong like when women talk about how for example of men act at a stereotypical meeting in workplace right anything you can think of like whatever you're thinking right now I've experienced the receiving end of that. Also probably done it a few times but like where most mineral water she talking about Oh, that's stupid. I would never do that I'm like, no no, it's happened to me. And I'm one of you. You know because people take you less seriously because you're disabled. Yeah or short or both I don't know. But the point is whatever it is I'm being seen. As this person. As Myself, whatever I am is seen by a lot of men. As. Not Not a man. But like maybe less than one, you're not the dominant one. He the like. Why you know what I mean like it's just so stupid because I don't think of like my life like I do not perceive every social interaction has this weird like power dynamic thing whereas all men if I shake his hand wrong he's GonNa think I'm like a sissy like does that really enter the head of like everywhere The Enters the heads of a lot of guys that I think that it's different for you because of your disability like one thing that we were also talking about with handshakes. I. You know there's this expectation of firm Hinchey and so on. Even I as silly as it is cried myself on having a firm handshake. People just don't have the grip or maybe they're missing some fears or maybe Erin amputee or meaner, just not able to engage a handshake for whatever reason and. I think that we played such high value on these performances of strength and power self-assurance. And disabled people can't always engage in that. And, I guess like some way I do kind of compensate for my lack of physicality by doing other things like, for example, this podcast where I have a bunch of people who listen to me right but. I don't think like. I said overcompensate but I don't think like if I didn't do this show that would be like less of a man you know what I mean. But I think that there are some people especially disabled like really would feel that way who feel like they have to. Do something else to fill a void that isn't even real. Because of how they think people perceive them in the work like it's just so strange to me. Well that would totally me with a academics because I wasn't able to play sports. So on the one hand, I couldn't be super feminine but on the other hand I also couldn't be like this bad, ass empowered you know student athlete or whatever I realized again that the winner were talking about all this stuff is very stereotypical but we're doing that because that was the understanding that was driven home for us like this is this is how it is in society and your disabled body is never going to fit the mold in any direction. And also because people do behave this way. Yeah and honestly I realize that you know people that we know are going to listen to the but. It comes down to my interactions in the bedroom as well. I will not get into explicit detail but I will say that. Again, I'm expected to perform this role and I'm not saying my boyfriend expects need to perform this role I'm saying like. It's been ingrained in my head based on societies trail. The women that I am supposed to need is very SEXY FEMININE SUBSERVIENT person in the bedroom or alternatively this very sexy like empower dominant person in the bedroom and it's hard for me to grapple with honor persona because I feel like my body cannot perform to either of standards as much as I wish it did. See, that's a problem that I don't have. Except for. When it comes to literally physically performing unfortunately, that's a little bit difficult but that's got way less to do with my gender and way more to do with my physicality. Thank. You do you think. It makes you feel like less of a man. For for like maybe the smallest split site but not no honestly no. No. If I'm like particularly down to myself I might think about it for a minute but like that's a really rare thing like by and large answers. That's. To me and might. Might instinct twist to be like you're lying or you're just like really comfortable with yourself in the bedroom I am. I am. I know. So confidently. Yes. I'm lying to you. Know. The ladder but but like. But I think that's because. Disabled Sexes Weird. Different and messy, and like you have to be comfortable with your partner. So I think like that to meet like it's more daunting at first but once you used to somebody you just Kinda know and I know that's true for everybody but like. I imagine able any people you kinda like can ease the awkwardness every time but with the people it's it's going to be offered the first like three times and it's that's just going to be and you're just GonNa have to accept that. and. So, once that barrier is broken, it's like fine and I don't need to worry about that anymore. So that might be why. Well I think that is what differentiates in obviously being comfortable with your partner, but also accepting the methodist, any awkwardness of the disabled body and recognizing that's just a normal human function. Our bodies are all a little awkward and weird and. So you know. Like for me everything takes planning. You know you're finding a little harder and I don't even mean that just in the sense of like sex I ne-, not in every sense of the word. At I've always wished that I could be that like. Manic pixie Dream Girl I don't even know if that's acceptable as the stereotype anymore. Not, up on the literature on that, but you know this girl in cute little hat in the sweet little addressed in the high heels in the red lipstick she like. You know. Dances off like a fairy in grabs the guy of hand and runs to wherever she wants to take him I mean it's ridiculous. The things that I've thought about that I like cannot do as a wheelchair user. You know what's interesting though I'm listening to you speak and I have to ask you this. I don't know the answer. Are you comfortable in your femininity? Like. I know that your assistant or woman I know your comfort with your gender. But like are you comfortable with the with with your presentation of him I guess. Not always know because I always feel like I should be doing more but my body as it is, makes it hard for me to wear certain clothes. My Body makes it hard for me to do certain things and I find myself feeling like having the wheelchair attached to my but detracts from my womanly attractiveness and I mean I am very lucky to say that my boyfriend reassures me literally multiple, times a day. That's not true. So. I definitely find myself grappling with that. Constantly I, mean they're literally just times where I'm like I don't feeling like enough of a woman to. Engage in. A particular way or where a particular item of clothing and. I don't even really wear makeup anymore. With, the exception of look sick because again, make-up's kind of challenging for me to put on. A certain there's some. Challenging for me to put on, you know so I've had to really came. Adapt and fine jewelry that works for me including that works for me in shoes that work for me, but it does sometimes make me feeling less of a woman. And I know how ridiculous it live but also I exist in a society that dictates stuff like this. I don't need to tell you that but I just say you know that is one hundred percent valid but that's strange to me though too because that is like I don't have that. That is like an. Probably because I man and like of course, I wouldn't have that because that would mean giving up all of this male privilege. But it's but it's no but it's but it's truly that that like I do feel pretty low sometimes, I do. But I, I've honest to God never have felt insecure. In my masculinity or my Jen, I have felt like perhaps. You know sometimes in rare circumstances like I'm not manly enough when I told you about like a situation at work where just like. These other men are squawking chickens with their heads cut off and I'm just sitting here like hey I'm I'm also here you know but by and large. I just don't have a lot of traits that I've heard. You describe about other disabled men and men in general that doesn't that's not to say that I don't have any sort of toxic. In be I think every person has that man woman and everything in between has a little bit of that I think my disability is part of the reason why don't have a lot of it too. And I think that might be because it's almost weird because it's like Oh. Well, I think you're GONNA. See me as less of a man anyway. So I'll just be how I. m most comfortably and how you perceive me as like. Fine. And I've never not been called a man and I don't think that'll ever happen because I look like one. I sound like one. And I am one. But I think that that like takes a load off my shoulders where it's like, oh. Man, I don't have to perform because they don't think of me that way anyway. And they meaning like people. Yeah although I will say from knowing you as long as I have. Also being disabled female human like I. I know I know that you're like a hot commodity among. Actually Disabled Women. Omega. I think the hype died down only also I'm disabled gay men as well. But. See you want hear something really full though what? I love being hit on by anybody any human being I don't care. But I will say that it does. I feel better. When they're not disabled. As that is so on top of me to say, it means to me. That's so interesting. The you say that because. I had this. Notion in my head for the longest time that I needed to enable body man in order to fully validate myself as a woman, and so I was completely turned off by the idea of dating disabled guy as it would happen. My first serious boyfriend was also a wheelchair user and I don't regret that I really don't I appreciate that experience but now I'm dating like. A literal human tree whose lake he's six foot plus all man like an it's ridiculous. Nerve me to describe it like that because he is in no way shape or form any more or less of a man than any other guys that I dated disabled or not. But you know I had that thought feel like I need to be honest and acknowledged that thought. I'll say that, and I'll say that my current partner she's assistant or woman and she's blind and I don't Wanna I don't WanNa make telling what I just said means that when she says that I'm. Good looking that it means less than if some rando off the streets. Senate, it doesn't. But you know if it were. To people and they're both telling you that I'm good looking. If, not salesperson doesn't like. Oh. Wow. Cool and if if a disabled person doesn't like thanks thanks the other two you get like, I don't know. But I think that a lot more to do with the disability than with gender. Yeah but I think we're the gender plays into it is. The I in my head, the Disability Causes Jenner to comes secondary to it. Right where you are a disabled woman. You're not. You are willing with a disability not this is an argument over a personal identity I but I think people. Correct because I'm not trying to be you but I think people see you as. A person in a wheelchair and then a woman. Yeah Yeah Okay I feel like I've been wanting. You articulate that this whole time and I think that's totally by the way I'm not in support of that I think that's horrible. I don't think I know that you you absolutely the nail on the head though I'm not like a woman wheelchair I'm a person in a wheelchair, and then they realize that I'm a woman and I think the reason that a disabled compliment sort of means less to me. Is because I think. When it's a disabled person, they're compensating too. So they're seeing me as a man I. But are you seeing me the way they? It's such a weird thing and it makes no sense. It means nothing but it just how I feel it. So it's it's so stupid. No, I completely get it though ended. Somewhat related but different. There were definitely times where I either had thoughts or comments about how you know would be great if you were. Gay or it would be great if he were bisexual because then it would significantly open your dating pool and like too bad. You're not interested in deigning a woman because the woman might be more accepting view and then on the flip side of that you have I'm. Not, a flip side, but like similar but still different, you had been GRANDPA who. I think said once and I'm probably GONNA. Get into trouble for saying this publicly. But honestly like it needs to be said, he was like I don't mind if you date outside your religion because it's going to be harder for you to find someone I think that's. That's the thing that people face though I don't think I mean if I don't think you're going to catch flack for that. No I mean like from my family like I think I'm GonNa get a talking to you from my mother and my grandmother for like how dare you being your grandfather like that I'm actually not saying anything bad about him I think that was. In his own old Jewish white man GRANDPA kind of way rather forward thinking of him recognizing that I was dating in a world that. Struggled to accept me and so therefore, he was okay with me expanding dating options and like believe me there are so many things wrong with what he said. But also I see the logic because we live in a society that makes it more challenging to date when you have a disability. But I don't know if you've quite had that experience though not to that level. No anybody ever been like your life would be easier you were gay. Yes. But those were gay dudes hitting on me. I don't think they meant that very seriously. But but I think that's very offensive. I. Really do like if someone says, oh, your life would be so much easier for sexuality was anything other than straight I will note one secondly, what are you saying like? Oh, well, it's too bad. You can't just flip the switch because if you are. So you like what? And the flip side of that is will you can't get a man. So maybe you should get a woman and that is exactly. Offensive that is so. Not because I am offended or bothered like if if I myself attracting to a woman I d her absolutely but I'm not I'm not just going to settle for something or force myself to be someone that I fundamentally don't feel like I am because you know. You're saying that I can't get what I want because of my disability and you know. It's frustrating but then on top of that, you're completely discounting the fact that there are so many gay people with disabilities who have a ridiculously hard time finding love as well. So. I mean, it defends it from every angle hundred percent. Agree. I want to. I want to say something completely unrelated and I don't have a segue for it I'm sorry. But now than ever segway I just. dudes in particular who have this idea? That anything that vaguely strays from what it means to be stereotypically masculine is. Gay. That is a thing that a lot of men think I know men that think that you know men the think that some of them might be in our families I don't know, but it's a very common belief is what I'm getting at. That is. Beyond toxic no. Because like look. My partner, who is a woman? Who is his gendered calls me beautiful a lot. She does because she thinks I am and that's great. A makes me happy. But. A lot of dudes would hear that and go man that's gay. It's like, no, it's not it's a word. Like, I I'm sorry I know I know our audience is probably not filled with dudes that have this mentality but I swear to God dude if you are please like the fast, you get out of that train of thought the better life will be it's not true and it's offensive and it's just stop it. I hated so much. Sorry nobody also find myself wondering if You're just a generally more open minded and chilled out person about stuff like this because of your disability I might be I might be, but I don't think that I don't think that having a disability should be like a a prerequisite to being woke about gender like I feel like if that's true that's a bad situation that the world is in right like I'm not saying that I couldn't have been this woke if I didn't have a disability but I am saying that I think you're right I think it would have had to work for it more than I have. Because I'm already at a societal disadvantage from this angles explore other ways that society screwed up throwing disability into the mix, any social justice commerce Really gives you like twenty new angles to explore. I'm only talking about the ones that affect me right I know it's like a bit of a tangent, but it's just one of those things that like. I hear all the time. For men that are disabled and none can just not a good way to be dude yeah. I mean actually I think that it's also really important to acknowledge speaking of not a good way to be like disabled doesn't suddenly turn you into some in Geleg form of your gender like I know super disabled men and Super Disabled Women I've also been as Uber Disabled Woman and I know you've been numerous they will man I have, and I will own that you don't stop being scumbag because your legs don't work. That's just not how life works. By wish it did. But I think you really need to acknowledge that flipside like as much as you have the internal turmoil and struggle with different being that pertains to gender. You know it doesn't mean that we're off the hook for the seem bad behavior that other people engaging and the sad thing is that I can pinpointed in myself over and over again you know totally. which on the one hand actually I think humanizes disability a little bit because it's like did they will people were just like you but also you know I find myself wishing that because the disability that I was better about it, but you know disability doesn't make you a good or bad person. It makes you a person. Sorry, I. Just I have so many feelings about that. You're you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right and I don't WanNa say but I wish there was like a word between Andrew but then I would say right here such words. conjunctions or or. Maybe being disabled certainly doesn't negate anything. In the way that you were talking about but don't you think that like part of why you believe the things you do, and of course, your whole career is is disability oriented. I'm talking about that. But like don't you think the part of the reasons that you have a belief, the belief that you have is because you're marginalized in this way. Yes I think that I try to see my experiences added disabled woman as something that informs how I perceive people of other marginalized identities and I also try to focus on open-mindedness and on. Being accepting and supportive person I know, I don't always get it right but then also. Doing Knowledge. They're able to people who are like horrifying. You know homophobic xenophobic transfer a white supremacist like you know we contain multitudes. But it's so funny because like I that nothing funny about being Nazi guys but I just think it's interesting because to me I'm like man you know maybe I am this open minded in this quote unquote woke because I was born this way like when I see a disabled White Supremacists, I'm like Dude, who hurt you see what happened like this? You shouldn't this way and you should be on my side of course, I think everyone should be on our side especially someone who is able to heal. You know you went first-rate like come on man. I'm not laughing about Nazis I'm but. I'm just making that clear for the listeners. Yeah terrible but it this is all really valid. I mean I often find myself wishing that you know experiencing one marginalized identity would by the very nature of the experience, make you fully accepting people of other marginalized identities but I just don't think that's true I mean I think that it comes down to you in a lot of cases. Especially for men again, overcompensating ID two. Guys Guy like stick with my own kind like you know what I mean. I do know what you mean and I think you're absolutely right any direction. We take this the qualifier in the other direction. Here's a question for you then. This is not like Gotcha. This is just like a thought experiment. I'm ready I know gender is social contract I know that. But I'm going to go a step further only wouldn't you say like buy that argument because there's so many? But wait what about in terms of gender you can say that about any trait you can think of that we think of as feminine or mask or anything between can say what about this person? Wouldn't than gender be. Completely meaningless. Really. Like almost like almost right like I understand there's some sort of like utility in categorizing people with certain traits, right? Like if there's If, there's bound to be women who can like kick my ass which there are. And if there's bound to be men who like you can beat in a foot race which excusing the fact you don't use your feet I'm sure there are like doesn't that mean that the categories that we use to describe people especially least this one is kind of pointless. I'm not saying we should all stop doing it but I am saying that maybe we should reexamine what it means to be a man or woman or whatever in between. Well. There's so much arbitrary about it but at the same time, there are so many people who find that performing and identifying with a regular gender gender gender identity find themselves feeling like that is an expression of who they are and for me. I actually feel like I, put my disability before my femininity whatever that means even though I'm aware that the two should be able to coexist. So it's like. I don't know it's all are maturing meaningless at this point I've I've talked myself into a complete whole right but disability is not a social contract in the way the gender is like obviously like the world is is prejudice against it's really the world more than our physical impairments. But at the end of days, we still have physical parents you make right but nine, there's also the argument if you talk about. Biological Sex, which is a whole can of worms I would say that's completely different from gender though it absolutely it's but I'm simply saying that there are people who believe that you know the manifestation of your biological sex to you are in terms of your gender and those people wrong of course they are. Arguments. I. Well, I'm glad you're clarifying because I also agree with you that they're wrong but I think that you know in that case in disability also that a social construct in the sense that like this is an expression of this, your body's expression of your physicality but you know it doesn't define. You have. I talked myself completely into a whole. Now, what am I even saying anymore is anything real? Yes to his five everybody knows that. I think there is some validity to what you're saying I. Don't think it's you can math at one to one but I really do think you're onto something there and that's something that I would love to discuss with you on another episode. Points to the the social model of disability, which says you know disability if not an impairment so much that is being obstructed in having barriers, but by the world around you so I think that I mean they're the whole their whole line of theory here that we can talk about and believe me I, am by no means in academic I'm not like a a critical disability and gender theorist here, and there are people who absolutely no. So much more about that than I do but I also think that it's important and necessary to me having these kinds of conversations to antique a real good hard. and. Say You know who? Who am I performing for and what am I trying to prove to anyone but myself I ask you silly question of course do you find people taking more seriously when you're on the phone if they don't know you. Oh That's so interesting maybe. Yes, I, would say at me for me absolute the answer's yes without any hesitation while have you heard your voice no I know but like I don't look like I sound like I'm a tiny little man right like I don't I don't sound I don't look like this like this, right so like on the phone people i. Mean people have told me like Oh man I thought you were tolerance me to it was supposed to be. But do you have that? Do you feel like when? Because you're you know? I mean I know you're also short but like the analogy in this case would be your wheelchair. So like do you find the people take you seriously when they can't see your disabled? Yes, and I i. also think that when people I see me in general if they don't know that I'm a wheelchair user, I have to immediately turn on Feminine Charm to get them to like seamy the whole person in three guys. So interesting that is so frigging interesting. But. It's absolutely the case like I immediately have to know he I have here in my sample came. So mine voice pitch, my vocal pitch will change based on who I'm interacting with. So right now I know you and we're having a conversation and my voice is in my normal register, which is not high pitched at all but when I'm talking to someone Innocent where I need them to get where I need to get them to take me seriously, my voice will go up I must be like multiple octaves at I. Am called out on it by people who know me every time because they're like you don't sound like that and I'm like I know I, don't. But if I turn on that cutesy voice for some reason, that's what gets people take me seriously is that not ridiculous? It is so interesting to me. Yeah. Because it's like this reminder that I am a woman on link engine to me Ha. I honestly can't even fake it right now because it got disgusts me but I definitely do I use my voice to get what I want from people and it works like a charm I do not like modulate the key of my voice I do and I honestly can't do it right now I'm just not in that mode see that's one of those things that like this is male privilege right? This is like I. Have doubts not even a thing I even knew happened that's totally foreign to me. I've never even heard of that. I, have known women to like my sister when she in retail would you like customer service voice for your pitcher voice up to sow nicer. But that nothing to do with their gender that was just her expectation of her work like everyone had to do that. Yeah I. Mean I totally do it on the. Phone to whether people not you're not or know about the wheelchair you know if I'm in a professional phone call, I will also change the pitch of my wife. But especially, what I'm trying to get somebody to help you something that is specifically disability related like I ain't help with my bags that hotel I drop something and I can't reach it. You know could you pass something on that high shelves in the Grocery? Store I'm like I say, Yo, you get me that like bottle salad dressing on the top shelf I'm like I'm so sorry to bother you. You know it's just really hard for me to reach my elbows don't really extend all the way. Could I trouble you just grab that bottle of salad dressing like I honestly enacted on even now not even an accurate portrayal I dislike turn it on to get people to help me. Interesting Yep Because everybody likes the Danville in distress. Especially when she's disabled I gotta put this like earlier in the episode like this is so interesting. Yeah we didn't in the wrong order. I'm sorry I. Know I'm a coolest man right now. I can see this is this is this is male privilege right here because I'm like Whoa Cool I. Think. This is really important. I. Think it's great that you're openly admitting that you didn't know this opposed to being like, yeah I totally knew that because. There are men who are like, yeah. I'm already an expert on everything. That I know what I know and I know enough to know what I don't know which is most things. So I don't know anything. Oh. My God that is so weird wire people like that and to be honest probably used it on you to my first thought wouldn't be oh, it's because she's a woman it's more like, oh, it's because she's my friend and asking me to ask him to do her a favor nicely like it wouldn't even occur to me but it's because like in a million years with that. But now but like when when my girlfriend says Oh, you know you talk on the phone because you're a man and listen to you like that I get. That I understand but what you just said. Is. Mind Blown Dot Gif to me it's just not even wild. I guarantee you. Your girlfriend has done this to you too. I think that women. Now that you've said that like I'm sure every woman I've ever met has done this to every maneuver met it's every person really well, I mean it's a stereotype in and of itself and not every person who's female identifying is like this but you know I think it is something that I was socially conditioned to understand will work in my favor. It's the vocal equivalent of works though Guy Your boobs, but that works to. That doesn't make a good what it gets the job done, and if I have a high pitched voice and a little bit of Cleveland, forget it, I get whatever I want. That is also assuming though that you know. I think a lot of people assume that I mean not in the sense that they see me as a sexual object but most of the time I think it's because they see me as sweet adorable little thing other know what she's doing I, we're like overtime but I'm like so into this, do you feel All the people feel decentralized all the time I know I do and I know we've talked about that. But when that happens to you like let's say you do that to some dude and he does what you want because hey, your boobs are have outright and you've got that real nice voice. Yours. Is your I thought. Ha He's dog I got him. I am not decentralized sexualize. Now I am sexual objects that I want to be for this one second or is it a? He just did that because I'm disabled like I have so many questions. This is this is So. Much information. It really really really depend I. Really do think that there are so many people who do not see me as even remotely sexual and sometimes I really wish that a guy would just give me a piece of meat which is ridiculous I mean there's an article. Oh wait. Is it the one? Is that one about cat-calling? Yes. Yes that's Only God knows what we're talking about. We have to like it. We will. But okay. So article is really good. It was by a disabled woman who's disability is visibly apparent and she reflects on the complexities of never having been catcalled and guess what I've never been catcalled. So there's a certain pleasure enjoy that. I. Get out of elevating whatever feminine charms I can muster to get people to think of me. A sex object is not the most ridiculous thing. But then what do you think that non-disabled Lake, women? WHO straightened his gender just to give you an idea of who I'm talking about. Don't. You think that some of them may be could be envious of people like you and the author of that article because they can't turn that off. Oh. Yeah. It cuts both ways absolutely. I think that women get catcalled all the time are probably done within where I'm like. Is it because they can't see my ass because it's covered by wheelchair like, am I not pretty enough Do you my wheels. Turn my vagina off like what is it? We'll do they know you Know. Either of those things. You know what I mean? No like no, and that's the point. Okay okay so you have no. Idea what you're saying. So. Owning is there were so many times when all I wanted wants to be seen as a sex object. And you know. The, the more than that didn't happen the worse that I would feel about myself and so the more that I would try to play up whatever feminine any hike all atomised fell. And now mean you know? I feel it less now because I'm in a serious relationship and I have someone who reassurance me that I am in fact, a sexual objects on her angular basis. Just thinking about about about that weird ways that like I do fit the the Manley serotype people don't complement me and of course. that. That's only apparent because women get complimented every second of every day whether they want to or not. So I'm not saying it should be that I'm just saying known but also. Able they don't write but men when they're not disabled. I remember almost every comment anyone ever given me because just men don't accomplish a complimented and I'm a man that far right. But also like I have that problem anymore because I'm gonNA seriously ship that we're we're we're my girlfriend like constantly reassures me all the time even though it asked for it even though I don't want it but like it's fine because even like even when I don't want it, I, want it because it doesn't come from anywhere else. Yeah. Yeah. Feels real good. It feels validating it's frustrating that it feels validating but it does I mean then I don't know why it took us like odd years to get to so much nuance but then there's also the comment that I think that. Especially a lot of disabled women get, which is like you're too pretty to be in a wheelchair. and. I. Find Myself Feeling I haven't gotten that very much and that makes me feel bad in my own way one you mean I'm not too pretty to be in a wheelchair by the right amount of the wheelchair. Am I ugly that women and we'll, I'm the reality is like you can be pretty wheel. You can be pretty and not being a wheelchair and I don't give. And also. Your social standards of beauty while we're at it like. Like what is it like? If you like. And I'm going to use this just just bear with me. If you're a ten, you know if you're somebody who everyone attracted to under the sun, no such person exists accent may be beyond, say okay. If you're that if you're beyond say and you sit in a wheelchair, suddenly you're leg average Ling person why what is it yeah? Yeah Yeah Yeah. I feeling I have way more feeling. This is one of the longer episodes we've ever done i. feel like I have talked myself into this spiral where I'm going to. Go to bed tonight being like. Yeah. Can you be disabled woman? But can you though I mean you are one and I I am a man but like Because we do not fit those molds and because those molded exist which they shouldn't also. Where does that people like us I mean, yes, we're gender. But like you know what I mean like it's just our perceptions of gender packed disability and people's perceptions of our genders are also impacted by Ernest buildings. So. Anyway, you look at it. You cannot divorce disability from gender you just can't even though you really should be able to it doesn't make any damn sense. But that's not the only living. Have we come to any conclusion or have we just come to the conclusion that Jenner and instability are so nuanced and complex, and we have begun to scratch the surface because again we're to six gender straight people don't forget. There are other sexualities and there are other generate entities that don't even they. We can't really actors to in as well. That's true and if you want a little tiny taste of that, listen to the episode that was previous this with our friend, the meal he touched on it for a second, but it's a really good second. He's so good. Wow Oh, my God this I have not finished jazzed by conversation in a while but God. Indra how does it work? What? What is Jenner what is disability? We've come to no conclusions really except that it's incredibly complicated. I, don't think that anyone is entitled to anything but I think if you're the kind of person who has ever. Seen a personal wheelchair and thought well, they're attractive but. They're in a wheelchair or wow there too attractive to be in that wheelchair and I say this as someone who doesn't use one I think for people like you. You should really reevaluate why you think that if it's just because the person isn't your type that's fine. But if the person is in your type because of the wheelchair, it's a little less fine. In fact, it's not fine egg exactly. Okay. Although I've definitely had people at run article about this, we can link it. You know I've had people reject me out of hand because of the wheelchair, but then my boyfriend. I met my boyfriend tinder and he told me straight up that he had kind of an internal conversation with himself being she than a wheelchair but that should have really matter I should give it a chance and like he's also in evolved human beings. So I appreciate that but I mean really like there are people who think like a wheelchair isn't dealbreaker that any form of disability the deal breaker that automatically takes you out of the romantic sexual running. So yes, I feel like having that conversation is valid and even if he came to the opposite conclusion if he did so. Wild. Lake really thinking about it. I would actually give him a bit of a pass because most people just be like wheelchair. No. Worse Will Jerry yes. And I'm not okay with either you know exactly. But like if you really think about it and are honest with yourself and you have any really deal breaker to you like that's your right. But I'm going to ask you to examine what probably our internal prejudices. But at least in your case in this imaginary fictitious situation I'm drumming up at least you had the wherewithal to think about it and come to that conclusion rather than just brushing it off. Yeah although my favorite is when disabled guys were like not attracted to me and it was my disability that was the deal breaker again, I was the same way. I was the same way I was like, Oh, you're in a wheelchair dealbreaker bree. Dick euless what was it for you? What was I just made fun of those people and then you just said I was the same. Well, what did it for you? I. I. Thought that I was less of a woman in needed a guy in a wheelchair like I wasn't being fully steam for who I was kind of like how you said that means more when someone non-disabled complimented attractiveness. But then I, happened to meet a hot disabled guy is just like well. I like you, and then also he likes me it didn't end well but you know I do not regret dating someone who was also disabled. At all I really don't. I I like objectively can't stand him. While I can't stand. Point. I treasure noth experience of having someone who? Was Disabled in my life. To. Explore like my sexuality with and to. You know come to a better understanding of myself as a human being. I. Was also a naive. Child in my early twenties when I was in this relationship But. I mean. It's taught me a lot about myself so. I. Have learned that. If. I do not want people to point bear prejudices and stereotypes that me. I cannot point mine at them. That was what I got out of that relationship. Wow. I'm exhausted a need to go through the entirety of my existence in a cold dark room. Can we do vital? Tastefully. My final takeaway and this is serious. Gender is very weird. Gender is very fluid. Gender is very nuanced. It's a very strange topic, and if you are someone who is progressive in woke and is very socially aware about issues. I encourage you to think about how disability fits into every aspect of of what you think about things but especially in this case gender. My final takeaway is that I wish that I lived in a world where none of us felt compelled to perform anything for the sake of other people and only did things because we wanted to do them. We have a long way to go for that to be a reality. And I know that I'm. Not, even close to. Overcoming own internal battles with. Femininity and disability, but it helps to have been honest conversation about it and so as scary as it might seem to pick apart these parts of yourself. I think you'll be better for it. This has been another episode of the accessible stall in short has all mine ns I am emotionally exhausted said. If, you want to support the accessible soil. You can at www dot patriots, dot com slash the accessible stole just one dollars a month ensures that all few trips the accessible stole remain accessible. And who doesn't want a transcript to read this back and forth because And might we say you look great today? You really do you are beautiful annual handsome. Stay. Safe Wash, your hands where your mask. I'm emily I'm Kyle I. Don't know why that is my name. Yeah. You really I didn't think about that very second like I watched that face.

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Will Ferrell

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

1:29:28 hr | 1 year ago

Will Ferrell

"Hello. Hello. Hello, welcome to armchair expert. Boy, do we have a big fat guest today. And I don't mean fat in the shape of the guest. I mean, in the star power, the legendary comedian an idol of mine will Ferrell is here day. Holy smokes. What a call to get rob that he was open to doing this podcast. That's a big one. It was a big one. Of course, you know, welfare from anchorman Talladega nights blades of glory, and of course, arguably, top three best Saran live performers of all time. I mean he's just a beast. I worship him. And then on top of it. Just a sweet son of a gun. Now, here's for the bad news. That was the good news welfare here miniature mouse again. Okay. She's, she's out of town. I was out of town, of course, for something not fund. She's out of town for something fun. So there won't be a fact check immediately. But we are going to record a fact check. And then we'll slap it on there. Another reminder, we still have tickets for Cleveland Detroit in Chicago. 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I run hot now gonna tell you. I'm doing the fact that's the do you ever have the junket moment where you break out into flop sweat, I don't have witnessed it in oak on a lot of co-stars. Yes. Yeah. I've had that moment where for whatever reason something was asked. It was like all, like you. He was motivated by too excited. I'm your fun really funny bit shar. And I'm like God. I'm sweating like a pig. We'll, there's a tremendous amount of lighting in a very small risk to start with your in basically a hotel. Why always have to do the pre thing of, like can you just chill it down to like sixty open up the aperture? Help me out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, nowadays, the cameras those in the Dr. But you don't you. I'm okay with this wedding in general. Okay. But what I've observed and others. And I imagine it's the same with you. Once it starts, you're Donald. Shut it down. There's no around on the block. Yeah, you'd have to like sit in a tub ice or something to stop it. And then the makeup artists comes in with the cold towel on the back of the neck. And he was like, are you. Okay vick. Are you ever putting paper towel in your concern, equally go in there like, do you want to take off your jacket, and I'm like? Sweated, shirt, for sure. So. Well look that, that hasn't happened to me. But I, I will if I work hard enough in it starts it is really hard to get the horseback in the bar. Like, I will then go to work, and I find I'm just sweating all over the next hour and a half, I've had the workout quickly into the shower, get ready for the event, and I can't stop. So I always have to make sure there's a half hour buffer shar because there's nothing worse than you get out of the shower, right? You, you, you dry off dry and then you get into in front of the mirror, and may brush your teeth. I'm wet again. And then you really. Oh, that's me. I got all the water off. Yes. So, yes. Okay. Let me just tell you a couple of things. Bill farrell's. Yes, welcome. Welcome William fair. Thank you. Thank you. Is that your dog? Four hundred percent guest in my head that you would have some opinion about this dog. I had a couple of thoughts about you before you got here. And one of them was you're going to notice this dog. And you're gonna the way I do does that not make you feel wealthy. And it's a very, very aristocratic. Yes, it's pastoral mass mastiff. I believe sure or Dane of Dane. But it's profile a so handsome, it's so handsome. There's a Greek groman kid off a little bit on the right or trip. Yeah. That is incongruent this doesn't match the Roman why I mean I was drawn to it. Because directly over your head. Right. Right. Sure. Do that. No. Her mce valium nervous, promise award over your guest. I promise you. I have only altruistic fought in motives with this day. I moved into this house who thirteen years ago, I live by myself, I just broke up with a girlfriend of nine years. I was like, I'm gonna decorate. Yeah. And I found this that one on the internet, and then has a matching one that's a. Stately. Whippet. He didn't make. No. I should bring it though. Because it's kind of a pair in, it's a whippet. But when I think of when I see this in the background, there's hey Krige upon ako. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just noticing that now rolling hills. Yes. It's guy. And I have this fantasy about like the English countryside feel living there with a dog with the Greek columns. Yes. Oh, carried away when they were padded. I, I'm drawn to also because there was a moment where my wife and I had three dogs, and we had this amazing photo of all three of them in just kneeling and it looked like they had posed themselves. And I was like, oh, wait a minute. There was a place down in the west village. That was pet portrait's. Oh, okay. It was a little shop. And I was like, I'm gonna get the dogs netted professional sure give that to for her birthday. Right. And so we went and checked it out. And I was like, I was thinking, I'm just going to give her a photo and you just. Right. She's like, no, I need to sit with the dog. That's not gonna happen to visit with them. Oh, I need this. I need to see what their personalities are like it was like a free month process, and I'm like, oh, wow, knocking. So she was guest. So instead, I was working on something. And we got set decorator there you go to paint it. And she wasn't that thrilled. They didn't capture what that other person would. Oh, yeah. I know. And I blew it. I should have gone to the professors in the west village now back to this. Okay. Okay. So it was yet another red flag from Christon because I had a bunch of photos of myself from movies. And then I had these two dogs right in in yet. I don't meaning the the this pitcher. Yeah. No real, no real dog. No real dogs. She said the only art you have any these two dogs, right? And do you have a dog? And I was like, no I don't understand having dogs in truly. I didn't understand that concept of like there's an animal that lives outside. Let's get it in the house. Right. Right. And let's be friends. Yeah. Yes. And to the point where they will sleep in my bed with. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know get it because she has lots. And now I understand it but at the time, it seems reasonable always got you did. Yeah. To me, I was like, have a chimpanzee or I didn't understand like. Same just having animal in your home in your home. Yeah. Did you have growing up? We had one dog for like a year that we had to give away. I was gonna say this story to like mid way when I wanted to cry. Oh, yeah. What was that name daisy of? Shit. The floodgates are open. Kinda was daisy a month. Jason was a money. Yeah. Daisy. Why does that make it more emotional that it was easy? It was when my folks were still together and dad musician on the road brought a dog home. All that's interesting. Then hit the road O'Reilly. Over the untrained dog in a two bedroom. Apartment. Oh, yes. Like in his stead he, he. Right. And so we had daisy and it just wasn't working. Yeah. Thank thanks so much. I now have these two kids and the dog in your own dates. Are you going to be out on the road? Right. Right. That's a guy thing to do pretty much. Yeah. And then it just daisy found a new home. So I in fact, I should get some more Intel sure I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask my mom next. This is like what exactly happened. Two days in fact, check it. I check these episodes and on call your mom, and I'll find out okay, now I, I remember them because I'm obsessed with you. But I do remember all the times we've ever bumped into each other for sure. And I remember most of the conversations we had wall, we bumped into each other. I was an momentarily was represented by Jimmy Millar. Right. Your longtime manager. Yes, we love Jimmy Miller. Yes. Yes. And he brought me to the set of semi pro and I met you there, which I was just at one of the March madness games yesterday. Oh, you were and I dug up the Flint, tropics warm-up jail you did to wear because Michigan was one of the teams and I wore my little Flint hat because Flint tropics, and let's face it Flint's. Yeah. Got in the short end of the stick, and they still don't have clean drinking water. They don't no one really cared. They didn't not really well let me add this matter. This is a little bit, though, like going to the inauguration of president and you were upset. I mean a very big event was happening like this was a game eighty three in the NBA schedule and everyone's like looking around the mid tournament, though. It's not that huge it's not the sweet it was a Sweet Sixteen anyway. So came to semi pro I came to semi pro e even prior to that are net Nye had done a movie together. Right. You guys did the break. Giving flatters me you know that. And you guys had already done blades of Laurie. And so he was my only conduit to you. Okay. So when he got back from them, we like, let's see, like, what's this guy? Tell me is, is happy as he seems like he really is he's gonna nicest guy, and I was like, whoa, that's all right. Yeah. I know it's a tear corn pretty good. Four hundred sixteen horsepower suck this dick. You thought four hundred sixteen is good. We topped six hundred twelve horsepower, the car can't even move. So anyways, you know, I went there, and I met you and I was just amazed without kind you are most comedians. I know myself included. Personality types. Very yep. Usually lot of addiction. You know, a lot of our years myself, right? Looted. You're such an enigma to me that your. I have to imagine you hate this. But I gotta get it out of the way. Right. Right. Right. You're my favorite comedian. I worship you're so fucking perfect and everything you've done. I couldn't like you more. It's like you and Bill Murray plan should be holding this dog. Behind me in this photo that should be the next portrait. Now with that said, I've always been perplexed by. You're always the butt of the joke your friendly as all hell you've been married and went the same gal. Right. Twenty three years. I think you drink the perfect amount from what I've gathered about you, everyone. I know about you, like how many beers does he think he drink five? Yup. And I'm like own. That's the perfect number. You got a little drunk. I leave just in time. Yeah. Yeah. Did I gather all the right Infos that describes you? Right. Yeah. How do you do it? What is what is the secret? It's an 'nigma. Yeah. I know. I've been asked this. A fair amount lack of the dark comedian, stereotype, you know. Right. I've struggled with coming up with a sinked answer that kind of sums it up. I think I'm predisposed to if I'm in a bad mood. I wake up the next day and think, to myself, who cares. Fine. So I'm predisposed to that, number one. Number two. It doesn't mean I haven't had a chip on my shoulder. Okay. Good that help and a. Does it which is fueled wanting to do a George Bush one man show? You know, doesn't mean I don't mind satirically poking people in the eye. Well, that's true. So, so that I enjoy, but I'm I'm not on social media, and I'm not on Twitter, and like, hey you've done a really artful job of an unseen. My wife does is really well, too, which is used certainly have opinions. But you've done it in a way that in my opinion has not alienated people and has not been overtly polarizing, which, I believe, personally, is the way to go because people's ears are still open to you right, right. Yeah. You know, no, no, I'd rather do it through action. Do it through the work story. Yeah. When we were on the show when we're doing starting I live. I never wanted to meet the people, I played just to be perfectly clean about exactly because it. Yeah. Because if you I. I would imagine in particular. Hold on. I had a trade cat. Did you know we didn't have to do? No, we do. Okay. Welfare, tracheotomy are not gonna show you get out of the hospital room and, you know, up, I would imagine the person you would have been most susceptible to would have been George W Bush. Yeah, I did meet him one time you did after the show. Oh, I met him during his inaugural that first campaign when he was still just governor. Oh, okay. Because here's my anecdotal theon about him. I've never met him. I, of course, felt politically the way you did when he was president, right? But I went to a hotel in Africa with my wife and of manager of this place from Africa. He he's kind of going through, like some of the different people that have stayed there. Like Bill Gates had rented the whole thing, Lobo. And he said, you know, who the nicest person who's ever come? Here was George Bush. Yeah. Every ninety stayed up at the campfire with all the workers and just told stories the I'm telling you the friendliest guy ever ever heard too. Yeah. Yeah. So I have to assume that, that, that's he's just. A really nice guy probably it. But wh what's part two of my answer here, the, the other thing, I've always had a unique perspective because of my father's work entertainment as a musician, who, basically worked for thirty forty years, doing kind of the mid level from nightclubs to big shows, and this, and that, what ends humidity piano, and saxophone. But like in having steady work, but then also after school one day. Well, I'm not working at the so-and-so place. What happened? Yeah. They are going into new direction. Gotta find a new job. And I saw the mercurial up and down nature of what we all do. Yes. And so it set this thing of okay, this is a total crapshoot I do like making my friends laugh in high school because I think that's where we all came from. Yeah. Generally, we could make a friend laugh. That's right. And I'm going to give it a try I went to. College would be normal. But then I kept going. No, I want to try this, but I'm not going to stress too much, if it doesn't work out, but I never have coveted. I don't know why you haven't I've had moments where like shit that was funny. Wow. How'd they think of that? Yes, that's crazy. But I haven't been like. Right. Don't bring their name up to me. No way. There's good versions of embattled. Like, I I'm a big fan of will forte cz. Yes. Well, you obviously must be to us you were on last man on earth to he on hand said very nice things about worse. I did. That's a show. How dare he there? There's another, another feather in your calf. I'll find the person youth. We'll scour this, it's, it's the still photographer on L. True story true steering. But so I was going to say, though, I chose to, and I don't want to project, but it's shows you define myself in opposition of my dad. Oh, like guy kind of assess the way he was running his show, right? And I was almost like I'm going to do the opposite of that. I could see where I would have adopted your point of view. Yeah. Out of like, why don't want to go down that road? I'm I don't wanna I don't wanna live on the highs. And lows of all this. Constantly be emotionally. Yeah. Yeah. Controlled by pursuit. So I, maybe you had a warning sign. Yeah. Well, he actually gave me the best kind of Z allies. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. Okay. He's waiting in the car. He. He when I kinda we had coffee one day way back when, when I kind of said, so dad, I think I wanna go for this comedy thing and any advice and he was well, and if you read this on paper, if this is on a plaque, it'd be the least inspirational thing you could ever read or hear. But in the moment, it took all the pressure off trying to succeed. So because he at that point I was in the groundlings and he'd seen me perform. And he's like, if it was based solely on talent I wouldn't worry about you. I, I really think there's something there. But there's so much luck. There's so much luck. So true. And if you find yourself going down the road, just give yourself permission to quit and noone feel bad about it. Oh, wow. If you get down the road, and you're a couple years in five years in whatever, and you're just like oh, it's just not happening. It's okay, you can turn it around figure out something else to do with your life and you won't be a failure. It'll be the next chapter. Yeah. And for some reason. Oh, yeah. Permission from your dad. Well, this is probably not going to happen. Right. So I'm just gonna, you know, it's that it's the baseball analogy I use this a lot, this is baseball now g of, like, you know, baseball players if you hold the bat too hard, you'll never hit it. But if you hold it to lose its going to fly out of your hand, so they hold it just with the right amount of grip. So I was just like oh, just be loose with the bat and just have fun. And luckily, there was some Lucks that's kind of similar to NIS soom, someone told to me, and I've said it to other, but it's kind of similar to this thing. I've said when people are like I'm thinking about doing it. What do you think I say, if? You're not talented. This is a terrible idea. No, I say this is what apparently David Letterman. That's what he would say. Oh, really? People ask. I don't it's it's super hard. But he was being serious. He's like, I had you know, I worked at the comedy store for ten years before I was anyone. Yeah. It's super hard. It's gotten harder. And, and besides I don't want the competition. Oh, wow. But he was like. Kind of his advice, his Goto I if you'd be happier failing at this then succeeding at something else. Yeah. Then you yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But what what's interesting, though, is I wonder if you connected this, because your parents got divorced when you're eight, I think, so roughly around. Yeah. And you also have said that third grade was like the pivotal year of your life where you discover you really funny. Yeah. Could make people laugh third grade. Could have you connected the dots that your aid in third grade. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because I was going to say one of the things that really appealed to me about being funny was, it was a tiny little sliver of my day that I control of. Oh, okay. Like the rest of the stuff was very chaotic the house is chaotic right app. Dads were terrible. Yeah. But I would have these interactions and I could take the reins and I control the outcome. The outcome would be someone's. Laughing and happy. Yeah. And I was very drawn to that kind of control. Yeah. I mean obviously was a mechanism to get love right? Yeah. In a in a space in my life where it was feeling unstable. Right. But my existence it was, I lived kind of a chaotic existence in the sense that dirty clothes everywhere. Just messy Marvin and a younger brother younger, brother. He's also in the code here's but here's where once again, doesn't connect to the stereotype. So you would think though divorce great technique to make friends acceptance. Yeah, you would think class clown. Bright. No. Really good student loan schoolwork, he'll love turning things in, but that was probably mom to mom was a teacher as well. Wasn't was never. In fact, I talk with my with my mom about this endlessly about our own kids, and, like, how do you motivate them? I go, go mom. Correct. Never wrong. But I don't feel like you ever were like, did you? She goes, I never asked, you guys, do your homework. Once why were we motivated, then she's like a single mom working bunch of job? I didn't have time, right? And I think you guys either took it upon yourselves. Or maybe I intimated that you'll kind of create your own path. They'll be consequences if you don't or. Whatever but yeah, I was just always motivated to turn myself in you. Well, but you, you must've liked the approval of the teachers in their hats, in the and all that them. Right. That could be a big motivator, yet, especially if again, I had the best mom on the planet, but she also was not around town. I mean, she she was so busy trying to take care of three of us, right? That, like I was pretty starving for some adult approval. Yeah. So it could be that it could also be like, I'm assuming you didn't grow up in a play. Chal estate with the divorce single mom, remember the show, silver spoons. Oh, yeah. Oh, you had a train train through living room. Oh, wow. We. Well, now I really don't know why you did anything you should've just stayed in that house that an, an Alf came up recently. Okay. I was watching a repeat of Alf the other day, it was one of those were. Just inexplicably landed on L. Sure. Sure. Like I got to see this through here. Yes and health involve the FBI and the thought that someone in the cast was a secret agent. So they were monitoring. And then at some point, Al is on a two way radio with a voice actor impersonating Ronald Reagan, and ALPHA's giving him a sentimental speech where they literally bring in strings. Oh, wow. About how, so it must have been at the height old or how, you know, let's put our differences aside and low he leaves an alien from another planet. Right. That's really reach across the aisle with or, you know, we're all humans, we're gonna share this plan, and it was like, well, healthy pooling. We should just stop and smell the roses. This is incredible. Meanwhile, a man is doing the voice and working that puppet. Yes. That's also the next time you stumble across it. I hope it's before the title sequence, because they shoot off the set in the title sequence. And it stayed there titles, sequence for seven years, there, unin address in the phone, just and you see lights and. No. The left no one's gonna notice. Right. In our we don't have to reshoot. It can't be done. Speaking of people inside of suits. I was just at the LA kings hockey game. And they have a mascot called Bailey, who's a lion. Okay. King of the jungle, right? A hang doesn't make sense. B. O. L. A T's. He's the king of the. Yeah. Doesn't make sense. No. But he's a lion. And I was there doing because Ron burgundy helped commentate during the kings game. Okay. Dresses, ron. And of course, in the five minute, walk it takes to get from the bowels of the stadium up into the broadcast booth. They have a camera on you the whole hall. So for media everything that and I've got Bailey behind me just because. Just up my that just look hard chart just like full Bailey. Yeah. They're so demonstrative. Yeah. Because they ever speak, right? All they got their hands bump. What's up with the hands onto hi-fi Huns a high five? Double. Hi fi. And then I'd made a disparaging comment to bail like Bailey back off my friend big like. Let me read. And so he's following me around, and then we stop and take a photo. And finally, there's this little meek voice from inside a Bailey's head. You're the best. Oh, Bailey spoke. Oh, wow. For us. You can forget, right. You can buy into Bazeley Disneyland. They're not allowed to ever break the fourth wall and speak with Olsen. I just hear this one. This. Do you. To take breaks. Supposed to work fifteen minutes anyway. Oh, wow. But back it was a two bedroom. Apartment, it was. Circle all the way back arc departments. Right. So then, and when you were a kid, did you covet wealth? Did you like fantasy great? That's why that show to me, silver spoons. So appealing. Yeah. I coveted wealth. Yeah. I think the fantasy of all your troubles would be gone. That's right. Yeah. Gone would be the days of going to south coast plaza mall and just staring at the toys through the window going. Oh someday. I'm going to get all of the micro microdots just the one. Yes. But once again, some sort of innate, practical chip in my brain where I was, like, I just like to live in a modest house. Okay. And in fact, I remember remember once in school. This would be this would be later on like in high school. I don't even know what the class was. But the teacher was asking, what kind of car would you like to drive? I don't know what the exercise was in. Right. And people are like Ferrari. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that? And I was like a Volvo. Just like, oh, family. Man. I was like, yeah. I guess so. Yeah. So anyway, that also. Is starting early with a slight obsession with Sweden. Can we acknowledge that who? He's all roads you were leaving. Which will get you. Stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare we are supported by Sonos, you know, I got home yesterday while wab from my trip to Michigan. When I walked in the house, there was yacht rock plane in the living room. 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You're the captain of the basketball team, you are on the soccer team. You were the kicker of the football team. Don't these things surprise you. Monica a lot of baseball in not even they don't get baseball. Oh, you a great baseball player, you good. Good. You're on the team I was on the team varsity team. Probably. Right. I hit three eighty oh my gosh. That's phenomenal. Eighteen hits. My senior at eighteen hits and eighteen strikeouts. So it either get a hit or strike out, you go further gold. Right. You only got one MO roles Arado they were all singles sickles. Sickles and I say that that's shocking for any other reason. And like generally the funny person who it s a -sarily athletic. Yeah. I do think all these things kind of end up were you and athlete at all. I was like, the alternative athlete. I skateboarded I snowboard. School sports, not school. I only played one school sport in junior high school sports, in my towns, I grew up in Michigan. And I think it's a little different than Irvine from what I can see from California. High schools, people are just generally kind of nicer to each other. You know, like we have a good friend who was pretty openly gay. And he was the homecoming king or the same age. He was an athlete and accepted high that, that would have been a dicey situation. You know, couldn't have even attended our high school gotten, you know, would have been driven out. Yup. Also the jocks where the Jackson, the most fifties, outsiders way. Yeah. Right. So, yes, I kings of the school. They were the kings at his school. So I just don't want to. I want to say that, like my, my perceptions of Jack Holt Josh is just a little, it's probably skewed gay wrong or where I'm from felt like our death. Yeah. Inning foot you were this. I think these weird things do they come full circle in your life in that you're team member all the time? Always, and that's why loved SNL. Yeah. Because of the ensemble once again, absolute serendipity, the moment that I got put on that show because it was an entire group of people as opposed to the peace male one at a time. Yes. Coming into, like this established hierarchy in trying to find end in a low ebb for the show. It was it was very much a sink or swim moment, which we didn't really understand. It was just like luscious go have fun. But all pulling for each other, and yeah, yeah. And I also made a very clear thing to the writers, which was not was it calculated. I don't think maybe maybe a little bit. But also, I really felt it was because I kept I kept seeing other cast members. They know too small parts in sketches like. Uh-huh. And I, I double bango, if you need a guy to, to deliver the pizza e say, two lines. Yeah, I'll do it. Yeah. I even love those small things because I think I can get a laugh. Sure. Off of the two, you know. And I could see the calculus of the show that you didn't need to score every week in fact, Kevin Nealon of all one of my favorite, one of the gr-, he saw me at one of the parties that first season, and in a very Kevin Neal ways like you're, you're funny. And tall guys do well on the show and just remember you don't have to score every week. Just get to the end of season. You look back in their ten moments rights, you had a great year. Yeah. I was like, oh, you're right. And I would also learn that a lot of times that one line, you had in the one sketch is the one thing, someone comes up to you on the street and says, for sure. So but, but also to sincerely loving watching the other cast get laughs and write enjoying all of that. So the team thing not being a stand up like I starting comedy in prom. Got a you've got that small piece of real estate. Yes. In knowing that from when I tried stand up. Oh, jeez. This is a long wait. Wait group of human beings. For the most part. Everyone's pretty unhappy. And to be an an. Again, it's. Yeah. To me. You're doing great. Oh, thank you. I mean, you've only had two moments little blood in the back of my throat, but they said that's normal. That's completely normal. It should you're, you're doing much I'm president with. And you've only had two moments, I'm going to have to change the dressing in about ten minutes. But I will go into this. Oh, that's why the male, nurses, just staring at him here over here. But to be an improviser. Yeah, you have to operate because you're so reliant on the other person that it does. I'm really grateful. That, that's how I came up as well as that you, you relied on each other so much in, if I recall, you're right out of the gates, your first episode you have like three or four Big Sky, like cheerleaders was first episode, right? No. Oh, that was much later. I just remember going like, oh, really in this show, that's kind of a big moment because I had very heavy I show right out of the gate, which was super exciting. But one of the consistently negatively reviewed cast members after that first show, you're yes. Oh, really? I really bad. This guy is the worst. And so you stumble across shirt Duff also when you're brand new. Yeah, you're saying, yes. It it I it was like doesn't feel so good. But then back to this disproving the theory of what we're talking about here. I just started laughing about it. And I just cut out every bad article and just pasted them on the walls, my office, and it was one of those things called me, most annoying newcomer. Oh boy. So I made a plaque and I put it on my wall. I was like so be it, you know, it probably was just a reaction to you coming out with so much in going forward so heart. In clinical kind of analysis, I think I was in a lot of sketches where I just yelled. I just measuring. In somewhat defensive, the reviews. So that is more of a decibel complaint. Exactly. Yeah. Noise. Exactly. But will, but with athletics, though, came the love of the discipline of practice of showing up on time of knowing the playbook, so to speak. That is why loved doing that show as well. And it becomes obvious though, when, when you had the option to construct the kind of work life you wanted. You then did that from Garum release from the outside, it appears that you've done that, when you, you have a group that you're constantly coming back to whether it's you working with Adam are you working with John, C Reilly or? Yeah. And that to me seems to be like the biggest win out of all you've got to really, you know, now kind of getting into the zone of like, oh, the things that I think are funny. Are they still funny right to the outside world? Yeah. I don't know. Right. We'll all there's some history yet comedians. Yeah. Yeah. I can name the few that have made it to their seventies. Yeah. Bill, stay really relevant. You know that's what happened. I don't know. Yeah. Because I've had this earlier theory on you that I want to run by you was. So you had a run of movies where they were pretty much set in other time periods. Right. Romburg in he and then semi pro right? And then I don't know. Maybe it ends there. Move, isn't a good this long stretch of two movies. I'm trying to think well when was CASA de MI Padre set. Oh, that was wholly different as time continue little. But I had this kind of armchair theory about those things was one is. Don't you love kind of the cover fire of being able to play a different time period where you can explore like mccheese mo-, basically massage any in a very funny. It's like it's a little bit more innocent. You, you can't really make jokes in our time period. No, I think that it also probably subconsciously is, is kind of playing on the style. Joe? Of being a kid from the seventies, right? Who because I you know now with this was talking to my kids about it, too. Like I was I was asking my oldest son, who's in high school. Mike. Do you guys have like a show? You guys all watch, right? You guys have the one thing and he's like, no, not really he there's too much, right? Everybody watches a bit of this and a bit of that. And listen to this person here today and it's all a mishmash and they share it all. And I can I murder member having butterflies in my stomach waiting for happy days to come on Tuesday nights. I am followed by Laverne, and Shirley now that such comfort food of knowing get my homework done, and I'll watch happy days, followed by Laverne, Shirley, Saturday night. Forget about it. Right. Love boat fantasy island. A home buffalo. Those are both our low, right? Yeah. Yeah. Two hours two hours and then the movies to themselves right there. Like eight big a year. And that's the ones you saw only but, but going back into those time zones because the one thing I was thinking too is even when you're like your new and the Growlings, right? And they're asking you to come up with characters and at that time for me, I'm drawing from like an older brother, who had it over me, a boss. I hated at California pizza kitchen. You don't like one of the things I think, potentially that's a problem with comedians and comedy is a lot of the fodder when you're young is like these people, you have to deal with cheers, their bosses, and that starts to fall away, but the pitfall is all of a sudden, you're kind of the boss in. You're not eating shit from somebody, so you're running out of material. Yeah. So like one of the theories, I had, it was like, oh, I wonder if he's drawn to going back to a period where he was still eating shit. You know, like were you still those guys had some kind of power or control? I mean, you know, the anchorman instance, literally was from watching a special on, Jessica savage, so she was one of the first female newscasters to go from first of all to break through, on local news, a home in to ascend all the way to the network. Yeah. And had this tragic kind of where she actually there's a famous clip of her. And, you know, before this proliferation of cable news, one of the big breaks was when you got to do the live in between commercials on the network. You would read it was like a minute of headlines. Oh, okay. And the break to you live and it'd be national. And she was drunk. During and then had this up. That led to this tragic ba- she rector car and died in a car. Although yes to this horrible. Little enemy outside of that in command has nothing to do. Point was, I was watching a special on her whole life. And one of the sound bites was the guy she used to work within Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, who still even though he's retired spoken of a newscaster voice, and he was like you have to remember back, then I was a real male chauvinist pig. I did not speak to Jessica did not like her not like your company and I made it known to her that this was going to be a tough road. And I was like he's just owned it all all I was like, gosh. He's, he's been retired for ten years. Still, she still talks like this. And so, I started thinking oh, that'd be funny, a character who like even in the grocery stores, like Hello. How are you? I'll take the that carton of cigarettes. And then I thought, oh, that would be funny. A comedy of the first female yet to break through that male world. So it, it wasn't necessarily me thinking about the seventies has it was story line. But it is interesting because he can you ever really be aware of why something is appealing. I don't. Yeah. Like something is just funny together you. That's why you go down the road you spent a whole lot of time. And Daime Padres is like, oh, just to have someone known in American comedy, speak Spanish for entire movie. And did you speak east spoke Spanish prior to that, you know, high school Spanish? Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, that was good. Twenty three day fever dream. Literally getting picked up at six in the morning with the translator with me. He would drive with me. Okay. And we would go over that days, just in the car, forty forty five minutes, just go through the scene. And then on the way home, he would drive back when we'd start the deck stays work who've in did you ever have moments while you're shooting where you're just I can't do someone's going to hold it in front of me. They were a couple of the very first day of filming. Yeah, we had to start on a huge monologue. Oh boy. So we had cue cards, ready. Okay. And I kinda used them but then also started happening. Yeah, it was crazy. But halfway through I was like, why did I what did I want to do this as is so hard? Sure. Yes. Yeah. And it's the same with the George Bush show every night. I would be hanging in the rat litter. Hanging because the top of the show is that if you remember after the inauguration, the new incoming president comes in. They have the exit meeting, and then the outgoing first family is lifted in the marine helicopter. Right. So I thought, oh, it'd be really funny. Let's mimic. The helicopter is literally has taken him from the White House in his dropping him into the theater. So I was on a. Rappelling compelling in so I, but so they take me up like two minutes before curtain, and I'd be sitting up there literally hanging on. I don't want to. I don't want to do this. I. Why did I agree to do this? How am I going to remember this eighty minute show? It's just me and then, by the end, I'd be like this is the greatest thing I've ever done. Yeah can't wait for tomorrow night. And then you back. Damn, dammit. Will what's your problem? What? Why? Yeah. And that was three months of that. Yeah. Oh in eight shows a week. Yup. Oh my goodness. Also to within the body of the show didn't do myself, any favors. Because Bush was known as giving everyone nicknames in his cabinet. And so, I'd go through we'd bring the house lights up. It would say everyone knows like to give nicknames and what what we're gonna do is raise your hand. Give me your name, and your profession. I'll give you a nickname. And I would just a scattershot. Uh-huh. And I was like, really, you got to save the land. I'd be like, oh, almost to the show, the hardest part. Yeah, yeah, but I say I'm drawn to holding my hand over the flame. Yes. In some way, do you think maybe it's like to keep yourself awake like they kind of get it like aliens yourself to stay like mental mentally agility? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I always feel like there's all these forks in the road where I could start coasting seen. I seen like a path for me to start coasting better. Do this thing. I don't want to. Right. Right, right. Yeah. That mixed with why are you doing it? If you're not going to do that. Right. Well, I was just going to say my favorite things you've done, and I have a lot of favorite movies ears. But my favorite things are like I was at a fucking Lakers game. One time. Look over. If you've not been to the Lakers game. There's like six or eight guys in red vest. I'm not sure what they do. But they're at the corner of the court the guys. Yeah. But they're not. I mean red jackets. Yeah. What does he that even mean I'm not sure what they're doing? But right. I'm like looking over my mother fucker looks so much like welfare. I mean, he must get that a lot and you just yours. Here's the ending there. There's no real bit beyond to my knowledge, beyond just your there in a jacket. And I'm like, no. That is will fare on Honey this fuck now. That's the thing that you're saying you don't watch something get angry. I've seen some stuff like that where on my God. Damn it. Why haven't I thought to ask them if I can wear the jacket and just stand there stoically for an hour and a half? How did that one come about? That was that outfit was a gift. Oh. Of course, of course, in Chris Hinchey. We had a stretch of time where we give each other really weird birthday gifts. They gave me a full regulation Staples Center. How they got it. I have no idea. But head to toe the pants the tie the red jacket. Oh my goodness. And I opened it up. I didn't laugh as. Oh my God. What do you not like it? I'm like, no, I love it so much. The problem is going to actually have to wear. Yeah. Will be a complete failure. So it took me like that whole season. Okay. And how do I do this because I don't want if I wear it in. They might go where did you get that from? Right. Right. If I didn't know how they would handle it. So I so I snuck in the jacket. Oh, I wore had this whole plan, and you just had normal seats we happen to have courtside seats. Okay, and Chris, and she came with me, and he's like, okay, so I like so here if I get tackled to the ground, what do we do? He's like, I'll just be there with, if I get s hoarded out, we had all this contingency. And so, I was like, I got butterflies I feel like I'm gonna throw up and. So I have everything ready to go. Just have to put the clip on tie and the jacket. And we're like okay next next break next time out we're going for it. So I just threw it on. And just got up. And just stood the way those guys stand. Yes. With my back to the court looking at the crowd. Yes. And then they're just became this ripple of, like, all of us starting to realize that will like, who is that guy your same? Yes, I started to try to get out on the court. Sure, gophers to the guy's credit, who was closest to me. He was like I just can't have you. Oh, he's, he's trying not to laugh. There have been told don't laugh at stuff. Right. And he's, you know, permission for. No. Oh, God bless you of that makes me so happy. And so he just said, just like you just please don't stay on the court. I'm a great. So I just stood on the baseline. Yeah. Just super serious. Yeah. And then I'm looking around and I can see they must have been talking to each other because I can see the red coat guys kind of ring the court. Yes. And their own nail of the ear and looking around putting their finger to their ear like where is he people are probably consulting, like a protocol book in the office. Yeah. Like, what are what's our muzo did? I sit back down and then get a tap on the shoulder. And I noticed that shack was there, too. I was like, oh, he's sitting down way over in the corner. I get a tap on the shoulder. And it was in this guy comes up. He's like, hey, I'm Bob LA. I'm buddies with shack. He thinks it's hilarious. He he's getting ready to leave. Oh, do you want to throw him out of the game? Oh, and I go. Yes, that's great. Yes. So the next commercial break, this thing, just starts writing. I stand up and but I kinda shift over and and I keep looking over at shack and keep motion, like, hey, knock it. And he plays along beautifully. Oh, he's an actor. Yeah. He starts to throw his hands up. Like, what am I doing? And we do this whole little play where I'm like, that's it come with me. And I ask him out, and he's so large so large, too large. And he's cracking up. Oh. And then the head of security comes parties owners like the guys loved it. You made their week day thought of it as an Oman. They were like, yes. You've noticed the man. Yeah. They really appreciate what you did tonight me acting like a jackass. I don't wanna get too lofty with this. It's an artist elation. Yeah. It really is. It's a performance RPM. So in my time with Jimmy Miller, I called him up, and I said, I really want to be in a reenactment the worst the show, the better too. No lines. Of course, I want to have to act out like scream and do all that. And like Ron knew all the things you'd see in a police show reenactment in the immediately goes all this is just like will he wanted to be a corpse on his show were you, you were a corpse on a CSI type of show? No, I didn't I didn't get to do that. But I did. There was a CBS show. Where we set it up, like I was going to become an and we had to tell CBS they couldn't promoted at all. I did a fake name Phil Weston and the credits. Oh, and they but these set up the show what was the name of the anyway? And we set up a whole storyline where I'm like it looks like I'm going to be a new character on the show in the last scene. I'm shot in the head. Oh, okay. So you did some acting in sodas. Murdered. Yeah. Okay. I thought you just play which would have been up. I thought you were going to bring up the fact that what I really wanted to do is, you know, the DR mower those on those commercials. Yeah. Late night super tall weeds and they're Super Bowl. We chipper. Yeah. And it's just usually a guy I was like I wanna be the guy pushing the DR mower. Yes. And we got to the five yard line, but the owner of the company was like, look, I can't guarantee that this won't leak and we just wanted to show. Oh, up on late night TV where you, did you make it into a late night commercial, though. I feel like I saw you some bizarre. Oh, that would be so great. You know it only works if you stumble across that we got to do the lifetime movie, though. Yes. This is where. Yeah. So those are the kind of things that I have going on. God deal either. Why didn't I think of that or now that's done? Right. But you've done some really great things. But I've had some regrets, you have some Gretz of moments I didn't capitalize on. Oh, one time being at the Golden Globes sitting pretty close to the front and the first category up was best song and prince one but he was late. And it was Justin Timberlake was presenting. And I was like, gosh, you just walk up and accept. Pull the trigger. I couldn't. Yes. Well, can I tell you the one I plan this year didn't come to fruition? Did you see star was born? I did okay? You know, when she wins, he comes up since stage in pieces pants while my wife was nominated for a Golden Globe this year, and if she one was going to go June. And then pee my pants get like a thing, and then P might be right. And we were like this is so for me, my own insecurities, I'm like, it's so dicey because people will really collect all this fucking guys gotta steal her moment. Like he's got to do so that was my right ear. Right. But ran up by a bunch of people, and it was pretty collectively. Like that would be great. That'd be worth it. Yeah. And she genuinely didn't wanna make a speech. So she's like this would be like hell the pressure off me. Yes, this do this. So she didn't win this never done. But that was one that I was like, really hoping that I could do that. But I am really curious about your time management theory on your life because clearly you're doing things that earn money. Yup. And those have a certain priority. Right. Right. And then you're doing things that you seem to be a player that loves playing the game against you're, you're making one hundred million dollar contract, but you seem to love playing the game. And there's evidence of it like the Rose Bowl parade thing like how did that come about a we were all watching it at a friend's as we, we have this tradition? We sleep on New Year's Eve and we wake up and we ought to Rose Bowl and here's people. Are dying in look what's happening. God, damn this guy's got the good ideas. Like how did how did that even come about that came about from a text from a dear friend? We, we share a lot of the same comedy since he was just like you and Molly Shannon need host the rose parade in character. I was like, dude. That is a brilliant idea. Yes. And so it took us a while to get it to get, you know, we pitched it to the rose parade. Lad, one guy really liked it. And then had to convince of the panel. And why imagine the conversation and a lot of these situations like is he making fun of us? Raleigh, we just pitched it that we, we were making fun of broadcasters, if anything we were going to celebrate the, the majesty of the rose parade, and that how much we love it no matter the fact that no one will hire us keep coming back and just we love it so much and would make fun of ourselves and our lives and our and yeah. Because of I guess, probably the, the success of it, then it was like let's do the Royal wedding yet. Yeah. We're, we're still thinking of thing you can do sure it gives you guys like at the Kentucky Derby, the we talked about that, you did the okay. I was hoping our current president was going to do this military parade. All that would have been. That would have been were like we were going to host that, I'll see if we can do that. And then we were gonna do like a telephone where we talked about how, how philanthropic our president is, and let's see how much money is he given. Let's check the clock. Let's check the telephone meter at which money he's given to these and it still to stay on. Zero there. But that was fantastic. That first time we did on M O or half the people were like these are the worst broadcasts I've ever seen. Right. Some people with allies. These are comedians. What are you talking about? Yes. Why does he keep talking about his fear of horses? 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And how much of its strict imprint it's almost all scripted but, but as the nature as is the one that happened this year, the fire that was all off. We didn't you get in your. Yes in your lap. Exactly. That was spectacular. So I was so happy for both of you that, that. That for the people on it, and then I was like, very happy for you, but it's so much fun. When talk about the team thing. So we have Andrew Steele who writes it. He's in the booth going talk about the fact that, you know, an owned Burke, who is a guy and works for us. So they'll give us ideas to, to riff on. So it's, it's a full circle moment, though I'm actually using the broadcast stuff that I thought I was going to do, right. As you majored in sports broadcasts. Right. But then you, you quickly you pretty quickly decided that wasn't going to be for. You just saw it. That is just as hard as trying to get into. Thought, well, yeah. Go for the other one. I mean now that we've talked for so long I it's not checking, but and I have probably these silly Michigan stereotypes in my head. So even finding that you in a fraternity. I was like. Oh, I use in a fraternity. He's oh but you were. Yeah. And now that I know you, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. And how did you end up in that, that was kind of the only fraternity I probably could have joined delta, delta need TD? They were kind of anti fraternity to an animal. Yeah. It was like we really couldn't get anything together. Pro like a really good party and it became like a stage for me. Right. So we'd have Monday chapter meetings, and I actually had a Monday night class for some reason, and I was the song chairman which. Yeah, but when you had a party with another sorority sing songs to each other. Oh, so I was in charge of running that, yeah, there was no reason for the song chairman to ever speak in chapter so chapters, the Monday meeting that starts the week off. Oh, you're tracheotomy audit, you call. This is catcher. Yeah. Yeah. So I would tape these song chairman reports to be played. After for no reason, right? It was it was just another way to write sketches. Yeah. And then I would hear back like your stuff killed. Are you going to do another one for next week? And so that just became another, you wouldn't even be there either. Oh my God. I mean you wanna talk about pure motive. You couldn't even witness. Yeah. The success of it. So, wow. Okay. Where were you at with girls did the sports in the being really funny? Did you always have girlfriends all you didn't? I was not. It was not a was that your focus. It was not fruitful. It wasn't it really is true girls. Don't like the funny guy till later. Yeah, I guess in high school. Yeah. So worried about your own status, and if someone can elevate your I would get a lot of like so funny. Pete Johnson or whatever. Right. And I think at the end of the day, I was still too shy to try to even go there. Okay. So then I just would retreat to the comfort of my weird group of friends. Once again, we'd go to a Friday night, high school party, not necessarily get drunk. But to, you know, take all of the frozen meats out of the refrigerator razz start jamming them into a microwave for no reason. Yeah. And then when anything's in the winter would come up and go, what are you guys doing, like, oh, Johnny told us to just start microwaving stuff. You guys talk to Johnny. Okay, hold on. Just create mass confusion shar, and then just leave so Ryan, art installation. Yeah. In your you life. Yeah. So when you met Vivian met her in an acting program. I find the so fast. She and she still is right? She's an art auction near. Yeah. She's still incident. Does it a little bit? Yeah. Here and there is my idea of what that is accurate. Like does she talk fast? Can she do that whole man? It's not this life is a movie. Bummer auctions. If he bad. No Vivica the in the art world end. She'll do our school auction are ha-, because all these schools have big gala evenings and then Bundy as ING, exactly. And she can pick up the pace. She can. Yeah. In you didn't firm minute, right? I when you first were dating we were, we were still just friends, and she got me a job at the art auction house L C appraisal coordinator. Oh, it was the appraisal coordinate, meaning the appraiser would get there. And you'd walk him today. We's. Right this way. Yeah. To coordinate. I, I would feel phone calls, and someone would say, I have, you know, something I need looked at, at coordinate the appraiser to visit them, and I'd also type up the appraisals after they were done with them had a fantastic moment, where the with the president of the company was like, because I had at a stretch where I was leaving a lot and at a massive pile of work by and I sure he on appraised on appraise. I need to talk to you. And I'm like, okay, he's like you are on Senate is Fred, what's going on? And I was like I'm just gonna hit him with brutal honesty. I'm like you're absolutely right. It's unacceptable. Okay. So you're really behind. I'm like, I know it's it's not good. He's like idea. Well, this stuff needs to be done. Do you have any idea? I have no idea when it will be done. But best efforts will be made to complete the work, but you never went so far as this. I don't value this job. No. Okay. You're gonna go all the wheel use promote manager. But it stunned him so much that I accepted how how poor my job performance was things like okay well, we'll so refreshing item shape up. I'm Ryan got it and then I actually got Saturday Night Live, while still working at that job. But I had no money. So I still had to work at the job for three months, a while for knowing that you're, and people were less than high. Go. Get through these appraisal. My ten dollars or job. Yeah. Oh, that's nominal. He met in an acting class so you get a job in, but you had a girlfriend that's fine. I'm sure everything was. But at what point did things get romantic, did you from the second like I like her? No. From the moment. I met her I was like, oh, I'm going to marry I'm gonna marry her. You did think, oh, actually, I don't know if I was that bold is it was more like gosh, that's the that's who I would marijuana fee with. But we were just friends, and there was something some Spar there was, but as I would always be friends, but I had the girlfr- SNL and this person was putting on the full court press of like what what's happening, right? And I was like you just got drafted example. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, will you have to understand? It's like those contracts are the first one I'm just guaranteed nine shows. Yeah. And then then they'll pick you up for the rest of the season. So I don't think we can I don't know. And I have to know I have to know vivid. I would also talk as friends and I realized, oh, we're having to our conversations on the phone right cross country. Yes. And not having the same combat of time. Yeah. Yes, with the gal who wants you to propose her. I think, after that first year in the show, I came back to LA and I remember thinking guy really liked this girl because she she asked if we would go walk her dog and Runyon canyon and the Lakers are playing. It's a playoff game. Oh, I was like I'm willing to miss watching the Lakers. Oh to go. Walk her dog. I was like, yeah, let's go. And then she's like, you to have a beer later, I was like okay and so we're sitting in her backyard. And she. Drank a beer in about two sips, so good. It was like that's just you want another beer on like even done. I y. Yeah. Sure. And I'm very, I'm double fisted. I remember it was not very good. Beer. Natural light. Oh, okay Milwaukee's. Best light the I think I'm falling in love with her. He was pounding natty lights in the backyard and to her credit bless her heart. She was like, so. I think I still like you. Oh, and I blow it by going. Oh my God. I just told my uncle that you're the one I would. Oh. Okay. You should leave now. Showed all my car. Yeah right away. Sure. And then you trophy. That this is like a late afternoon, the years in the late afternoon. I love her, and then she dropped me off. And I thought, oh, we we're gonna kiss I go for the kiss. I get the cheek. Oh. And then she was, like, I just have to let you know, to I'm kinda seeing some wild that house. I was like. Oh, okay. So what, what is going on here? And then I got pouty and weird measure that whole summer came back to LA and we began the record ship and a high by the end of that summer. It was like, is this thing. And it was an inhaled up. Yeah. In when did she move here from Sweden? She, she grew up here. Oh, she did. She thought she she was like a year old. Oh, in the Boston guys, you, you have like a cottage in Sweden or something. And you guys will spend the summer there. Yeah. That's where we that's not because you're going to visit her home or anything. No, no, no, no. They didn't go back to visit when she was growing up that much. And so later in her college years, she she was back. Visiting like her cousins, and in kind of spinning couple of weeks at a time and, and dealing of resentful. Like, why didn't we go back? Yeah. You're more Eden. Yeah. And, and, and so leading does. Yeah. There's a. S W were pronouncing. It the Swedish away the dish way eating too. So we started going. And then I think she was just like, oh, I'm I didn't get this as a as a child. I want to give it to our kids. You also went beyond that, first of all, you have my three and my top ten boys names I've ever heard, you got all three of them. Magnus my brother-in-law's Magnus. Always loved that name. Oh, it's great it. Oh, Majd, two big Magnus. And so we have Stewart. Monness Lilla Magnus. Oh, but Lamongan is now fifteen and getting big probably in a big dude. Now, did you have this feeling that the first time I went to Sweden. I was walking around in Stockholm in for the first time in my life. Yeah, I felt dead average. Did you? I was like, I am the dead average height here like the guys are taller than me, very few are shorter than me. Not only that, I also I've never been known to have a sense of style, but felt even more unstylish, of course because they're wearing these fine tailored. Suits leather. Loafer Fano tie. It's chic and. Yeah. Yeah. And it was the first time when we were first over there, you know, the cell phones caught on quicker over there. I know Kia Kia was huge. And also, do you remember the old the wire where you'd listen? And I had the microphone Milius attitude toward I kept seeing all these well-dressed crazy people talking to themselves because I wasn't seeing the why I was like there's another guy. Progressions talking to us where we got used to that in two seconds didn't we I remember the first few times, I saw that. I was like, oh, this guy's bonkers. And now I'm like, yeah. Everyone's just talking themselves. Magnus Paulin Ferrell. Do you have Matisse fan? Spend is Vince, dad axel, schoo- gland, which is viz mother's maiden name school. Glenn Schuylkill, and small would lose Google's a small forest. Schoo- glenn. Oh, in and I feel like it's volved of you that you've just adopted this whole sweetest thing. I love it. Yeah. I really liked that. You've embraced it wanted to first time. I went over there. I was like this is the greatest place ever. Yes. Uber. Happy people. Right. All seem to have a good a good lock on, like work and real life, and yeah, I remember, we aren't train going from Barcelona to Rome, we happen to be stuck in like a six person thing, my girlfriend, I with four girls from Sweden on, on, on holiday and the two of them had been exchange students in one in Atlanta and one somewhere else in. They just hated how much we said, thank you, and please, and all these weird like little customary civil civil. You know, whatever you say. Niceties. They couldn't stand it goes fake. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I kinda like this. It was the first time I thought. Bowl, you the funny thing, too, is the Swedes have this thing of, like, I know exactly who you are. But I'm not going to look at you. Oh, I like that because we're the same Ryan people. That's right. The and they have a thing called law gum, which is like, not too much, not too. Little is just log on. It's just like perfect, like if something is log on. It's like that was that was just right. Right. Did you go to the Vaas ship museum? Now, what's the what is it? It is. Well, it's the number one museum in Scandinavia while you mean what I'm so sorry, first of all, I'm so, so sorry. I really what what's on display? It's amazing museum. That's also this amazing story of that has affected Swedish culture, which is for four hundred years, this Voss ship so king Gustav, Vasa win Sweden was ruling the world. They were actually a military and naval power. The they're building these worships than you wanted this extra tall worship a ha- super tall. And like tallest of all time. And he set out to build the worship and the architect of the worship was like, hey, king vase, can I talk to you for second side note at a specs you've given us, it is going to tip over immediately? Right. And just telling you like we just started building it I'm feeling good is like I don't give a shit. You're wrong keep building. Yeah. Halfway through construction Vaas can I talk to you, forget, we're halfway through now. And now I can definitely see. It's going to meet Tipo, or as soon, it won't be. Yeah. Your shit. Okay. Shipbuilder dies. Son takes over a boy. He's about to finish it. Third round of meeting with king Gustaf, like you, remember my dad even really said. Look, dad, I noticed ever, but he actually is right on this one. It's going to tip over. Is it done? It's, it's, it's done. But we really shouldn't it, why don't care. Let's do it Tuesday of next week. Love a big ceremony. They crack the ball of champagne. They set it on his own good sales on for all it gets about thirty seconds out a gust of wind. It lives to one side all the canons rush to that. Oh, and it syncs of predicted where it sits at the bottom of Stockholm harbour for four hundred years. Oh, wow. So, because of the conditions of the silt in the mud for some reason, even preserved it, and it didn't allow the certain kind of worm that would nor- normally eat through all the would. Yeah. So it sat there, perfectly preserve. Oh, my four hundred years, so post World War Two Sweden nineteen fifties. They're flush with cash because they were neutral. They didn't have to fight the war. They had all this iron ore. And they were like we got a lot of money. Let's dig up the boat. So they do this amazing reclamation of where they figure out. They dig underneath they do these balloons. They, they raise it up to the service Aloom with balloons, so there it sits perfectly preserved this massive worship, and it's this amazing museum would around and there's. Over a million visitors a year who come to see the Vaas ship, but it's this combination of man's hubris air, but even after Vasco will not give up so they have a trial. Why did this happen? Oh, he wants he wants a role. He wants to answer even though you've been given the whole builder's still saying once again, as I've said, fifteen time it was too narrow for how tall it was built in. They're like. Nope. We think it was witchcraft. Yeah. They thought it was witches. They've tried to figure out what happened, but someone was telling me because of that moment, culturally. That's why the Swedes have always been. They don't ever get too cocky, ever. And it kinda led to sharing and socialism and all that stuff like that. Yeah. Anyway, well, yeah, my personal thing with, with getting sober is basically for a decade. Life was like, either a zero eleven. Yeah. And really means over just learning to live between the. Yeah. Finance ideal. Exactly. I have a question about Ron burgundy because it's your podcast. Right. You're not sick of that character. No, I'm not by the way, nobody else's everybody wants that NAR haven't gotten. I feel like I've just piecemeal him out enough. Yeah. And I've just done. I mean, we did the to these the two movies, and then I've just occasionally done him at a charity, thing, this, and of that. And then the idea for the podcast, people aren't constantly like asking you not so much. It's good. Yeah, I could see last year at it'll happen in like a junket, or you're at a live thing and be like, what would Ron burgundy? Oh, really? Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Shutdown. Sweating profusely. Yep. Yep. But the medium is so kind of wide open, obviously, Erin way, but I find myself as Ron burgundy, asking a cyber security expert. Oh, yeah. So we have like real great. So that was questioned. So you have legitimate guests we have the weirdest array. Yeah. Experts. Scientists we interviewed an eleven year old girl on bullying. Okay. Things like that. She was aware. She was so funny real and had this great little attitude. And at one point made Ron cry. And then we've, we've had like rupaul. Uh-huh. You know, and then we just did one that was like a radio play, where we were like on our way to the podcast. We got stuck in an elevator with three other people on woman speaking Spanish the entire time. Of all your characters. I feel like personally that would be the one I would wanna do a lot because it's almost your ID like it's like you don't get to take your in for a while. And then, Secondly, I want to ask you this. I have certain characters where I can say words. I don't know normally it's the weird, it sounds so goofy to say that. But like when I do they Fredo from Ideo Crecy, right, right soon, as I start talking like like all these words, I don't normally use start sounding fix, Ron Burke. I'm sometimes way more articulate as Ron. And I'm like, oh, I would have not used that vocabulary word. Yes, I it's interesting some characters lend themselves. Yeah. To improv so right L, right? And there are great moments of recall with Ron, where all star tremblor. Distant references to that. I normally would be like what's the name of that band? Right. Then Ronald be like Kadzhaya goo goo. Oh, no. It but not will won't know it. But that is so weird thing. So you're doing the podcast but you are in a unique position. I would imagine you have to police yourself because you're in a position that you could get most things made. Yes. And no, you must have a process by which if you get on fire for an idea. Do you have like a little window where you're like just sit on this for two weeks? Three weeks. Whatever to make sure that this is something I really wanna get up and running, because it could happen. Once it goes, it'll start to it'll start to heat up quickly. And but yet, I've just recently come across things where I thought it was boy, what a great idea, and then gone around town, and everyone just went no. Really? So, wow. Why? That's a new. That's why I hear you. Yeah. And you're like, well, you can quit. And I'm like, not, it's, it's well it's becoming a the movie land. Right. Ca marmot is really hard. Yeah. Totally give it theory on that. I don't know what's, what's curious is very easy to see what happened to the forty million dollar drama movies, very easy to see they disappeared. Yep. But they went to TV there's a huge explosion of great drama. That's on television in the in the audiences there. Now, the film comedies have vanished in enlarge part. Yeah. But you you've not seen any of the comedy TV shows uptick. They're all they've kind of precipitously to what we've you is comedy on TV is also has a lot of real elements to it, and some of my favorite shit. Yeah. Master non love and, and it's great stuff. But yeah, that super funny on samba all kind of linear through line where you're either, like here's a crazy character. I wanna watch go from point a to point z. Yeah. Or here's the hangover this crazy premise, I wanna see. Yes. Followed through on. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what's happening. But don't we still want to go as a group and collectively watch a funny movie? This is the last thing I was going to say to you. I was in New Zealand when elf came out, and I went to see elf with, like six people, they didn't want to go, I had to drag him. Yep. Two of them. I drugged literally literally and then I dragged to drug to and dragged too. So we're watching the movie. It's so great this. It's packed. It's like crescendo wing. Yeah. And I hear. Daddy. I liked him so much. I like him so much I turn around in. There is a six year old girl standing on her seat. Well, she's standing on her seat saying, I like him. I like him so much. And then everyone in the movie theater, who's already have joined the thing. Now, also witnesses the six year old having the maybe the best experience of her life yet. And that shared thing. Yeah. I get real sad think my girls won't have that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I know I don't know if our if my boys are like the nine year old still is in the animated zone. Okay. Right. So he'll see the billboard and have to go see that. Right. But you got a senior sixth grade. The twelve year old is like, oh, I wanna see that. Oh, I want. He's, he's a he's a consumer, but he still sees more things at home or at a friend's house, ran the and the fifteen year old, I don't short of like using it as a social thing. Meet friends and go see a movie. It's there's not that thing of, like, oh my gosh. I just saw Eddie Murphy in trailer. And I, I literally have to see Beverly Hills come market in my Carolina. Literally have to see it. Yes. Oh, yes. Because there's so many outlets. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know we've mourned the loss of that, but we'll love you. I'm so grateful that you came in and talked to us when does Ron burgundy come out. No, the podcast, it's out there. It's already out there. Yeah. Okay. What's the exact title of it? It's just the romburg and he podcast, the Ron burgundy podcasts. It. Okay. It's out there. I can't wait to start listening. You need to promote. Let's see what else we need to promote I, I need to promote seeing eye dogs for the blind alley. That's something we should still promote. We should. Yeah. All right. We're gonna we're gonna listen to Ron burgundy, the Ron burgundy podcast, we're going to buy a couple seni- dogs for there was a charity. I think we still give money to it. It was a seeing eye dogs that didn't pass all. Oh, couldn't quite get it down. Then almost feels like after adopted because. They dogs that didn't make mexica. All right. We'll feral. Thank you so much Dory to the last time we bumped into each other, we were both doing medical stuff. I was going to see a dermatologist and you're you're in a building. Maybe Dennis this is such an old man to bump into each other. All right. Well, I or you thanks for giving us your time. Thanks for having me.

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55: Yang Wen Ya  From Zero To 30 Million Dollars A Year: Lessons for Entrepreneurs From Inside Alibabas Taobao University

For Women Who Love The F-Word

23:00 min | 2 months ago

55: Yang Wen Ya From Zero To 30 Million Dollars A Year: Lessons for Entrepreneurs From Inside Alibabas Taobao University

"What I. was about to dethrone. To tell them. Canada Megan and she's about four hall. Need A. Car? And you wins off troy. Hundred Hinchey go map. Was that could? Engine couldn't go young we. Eight, the. Bill to me when I come without him. Jewish John John Shock of gooden caparisoned. Machine the needs parlance. She's A. A. A strong and independent woman is something to behold she pays the bills buys own things, and she doesn't let a man affect the all self confidence. She is a sold rich woman. Are you ready to be rich doing what you love beyond puppets and in control of your life again. At four women who love the APP what podcast we will be openly talking about. It mocked blinds online, getting recognition as leader and female entrepreneur, and also the athlet, being fabulous, having freedom and financial independence. It's time to own end. Love the F.. Welcome to the show. Hollow Gorgeous and welcomed today's episode. I'm really break scientists to share with you today's interview. Our interviewee is an amazing gentleman. Old Away from China so this whole entire interview was done in Mandarin, okay. Woman should young wider okay. We spoke in Chinese we spoken Mandarin. So you who don't understand, don't worry. We actually have a article which was interviewed in CNBC. And I shut my lessons learned when I went to Alibaba help I'll university shit I. don't see a face on foam food. I've lent many things in the course, and that's why I interviewed him now he is not our teacher. Okay, he is really a real. Teach you and not some lecturer who has gone through textbook or some online course, and then teach you what economists? He is a guy who was working in a software company, and then he was boomtown ecommerce in China. He decided to go on board this trend and was studying from zero dollars a month, making zero dollars a month to three million dollars a month to thirty million dollars a year, okay? So if you WANNA learn, you've got to learn from the real people so now he is one of the top five experts in China sought after by five hundred fortune companies to share strategies on new retail you. Talking about e Commerce Sir when he was there presenting his. Ears and philosophies and the real happenings in Alibaba. I was really blown away so I had to sit him down in a twenty minutes interview and got him to share a little bit okay, because they disclose a whole program a list. Pick his breen. Enough for you to really have a taste of what it's like over in China, and some of the principles that could be possibly used in your business as well. His name is young when nickname is on Sinjin. So enjoyed this interview and I look forward to hear what your thoughts are about this episode. Well. Should we teach a Nisha sins on our in Hong Joel top US rates year. Song happen to show whalers. She passes away drawn Sing Sing Wung Shung now since homes could hope you live being not. 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Three Wide, No Cover - Weekend Racing Preview

Three Wide No Cover

24:00 min | 1 year ago

Three Wide, No Cover - Weekend Racing Preview

"Horses ROY Moore. What's he doing on these now Cava? Yes. She's back. Hello and welcome to three one cover Markle woes away. In the first thing. I would say you've done this shy for wall. Now, I think you know, you obey the intro. You've got a little bit bit of budget. You've moved from sports bid the rising dot com. Get a bit open a boys Izzo welcomed the two boys in the first man tomorrow, Julian Vallance, two thousand seven eight and ten and eleven stri. Lynn tanning champion. You. Very good. You've been working on. Well, thanks for any good. That's good. I growth you the owners shopping and a man who used to be jokey. And now, he's just a small little land Solomon Marshall that something's never changed. Brandy and squad goods Zach could have you back on the show. Brag league during at place. I'll tell you the comforts of the show back in studio. I love better washable. We lost world leader somewhere. We still haven't heard. And it's really good to be back in studio with the comforts out. But looking food boys to dissecting some group? One rising did happen to you. And by the way, size of food poisoning all size in the words of my twine. The rumors of my death have been grossly exaggerated on here. And it was fun. Mona believes, I very lovely plice. You just need to pace yourself. Correct. Yeah. It was fun. We drive high on Thursday. It was all good. You better. Give us a trek report. You'll yeah. So we're gonna go three track reports because the two group one's in Brisbane ending at allied saw in Adelaide. Look, there's a favorite of Ryan expected Iran twenty mills to die looking at Aranda soft seven could push into heavy or expect the inside to chop at. So I think off the fans probably boy Rice's four or five or think you'll be on a hat into the middle of the track for Adelaide German group one duberstein's tans day. We'll doing been it's going to be. Roy we need to be on speed. And in on the rile that is going to be the place for doing coffee. Yoda bitter Ryan here at ten maters softball, I've market into that soft. Seek soft seven range it usually plays pretty well in. So I drove I think could be an advantage and also on spayed, I think it coffee, we always sort of defaulted that. And I think that'll be the case as well. With these air ten maters coffee. Bitter bitter Ryan is expected shop shop work the from Julian Vallance. Oh, why is enjoy? He track report the normal punter at they it doesn't take that sort of stuff into consideration. And always love it. Let's get into some rising because there's too massive group ones hitting ally the isci Dhabi. First of all multiple I have a twenty five hundred made his missed. A quickie will start the five or three hundred reach withdraw which one will last week for fifty declaration of hot. Sixers Chapada seven cigarette. Bligh's non Colella has been told the plans at a tan and during Zing us their thirteen dollars. Yeah. It's a good rice. The MAC is the most important part of this race. It is extremely important because it depends on whether this rice is going to be run on a soft tempo or genuine tempo. And I think that he's going to be very deforming to where we can find the winner. I think Manzano go forward Geiss on our thing. Call row Ford. There's a few others that have drawn wide racer horses. Like that that I think it will have to go forward. A who is like sacred visors during a really good guy. It's a horse that needs a genuinely run rice to win it. It needs to probably take off at the one hundred made it so I expected to see one one somebody like that. And at the one hundred push the button, look if this rice is a really soft Tampa, there's only two probably winning chances, and that's Mr. quickey in declaration of hot. They clearly got the best turns of food. It's where like can stay these distance of twenty five hundred eighty you debt. Absolutely go my dad's if it's genuinely run rice, if it's generally run rice, I dug now if I can stay quicker than the others. And for that reason, I just think there's going to be enough Tampa. When I think this is like sacred buys will take off early on going with Ridgewood drive. That run last week at Flemington was nothing short of outstanding. It was two seconds install. I'd stand at Tom that is good going. So it's coming out of the faucet, Ron rice, Mr. quickey and declaration of hot the two at the top. They coming out of slow run rices Ridgewood draws got the perfect profile tooth has made us foster on rice to get to twenty five hundred maters. That's why I'm tipping that. Anthony Friedman is an absolutely sensational. China quick seven day back out. We love that NS dies. I'm going which would drive regional Joe. And for Jews the US, do what do you like? Yeah. I think it'll be a truce dying tests these jewels because you take away that bring it tone of food from Mr. quickey and declaration a hot, and you might get a true test. That's the advantage of hod horses in really good form for the South Australian Dhabi. So that suggests to me if I was twenty two kilos Lauda, I'd be wanting to rod sake. Replies. I loved these Gallup at goldfield. He's last two wins a terrific. He's an aunt Nance style of these holes. He's drawing the inside barrier. And he sits on speed anybody to horse called transact at. Field transact, then came on the twenty eight hundred eighty two site legis Scientlogists, always buying a great lead up to a South Australian Dhabi that foams Frank for me, he's the one I want to be riding at H Y value. You're going to get around the non dollars the best turn of foot, and it's a killer in any event. The an acceleration from a whole suit can relax the quickey, but he's drawn through then he gets back, and he's going to need that flow from the hundred to that five hundred Mehtab band, hbextract to bend at Ville. He's got the electrifying turn of foot declaration a hot. It was a really good lead up win at Ville south advantage. Because he's a settled in and he's doing everything wrought ridge withdraw you'll selection on top. He's got a digital very quickly. He's going to travel to mobile now. And he's got to back that wind up and the pennies just dropped for one rice is that all wouldn't talk out of Josie was in electrifying wing, but he's got to do that in travel within a short spice of Tom. So that's just a question, Mark. And the Philly ca field up backing up after an unlucky run last week. They someday out on her to back up. But the smokey and this ninth and thirteen and you love us Maggie is japodlay. He was very good and Sydney as Pleistocene of Victorian Dhabi, a flying under the ride the souls and these conditions just a soft track wouldn't surprise me from Guidi live initial pod is ridden fully Bellevue in the first six to seven horses seats on speed, and he has the ability and the credentials to win a South Australian Dhabi, and he's also really good value. It's a really good point you mentioned because Japan is the big x factor in the right? So it's coming off thirty five dies from the Sydney Dhabi where it actually started. No one to two five or now, that's a much stronger rice in these. But he's coming off thirty five dies. Indeed file, but if there is a big grants. Well, this is the host of the market could absolutely gravitate to. So it's a whole that'd be definitely keeping an eye on Shibata the early money's the five, Mr. quickey. So he's in from four dollars into three dollars eighty and it'd be Pushpa, but Chacha pod as the smoggy. That is the best analysis you'll get anywhere around. Let's head towards the doom and ten thousand wrought now night just troop evens their two dollars. Those been bull three dollars. Thirty champagne cuddles a living up at Bobby four. What most technical vantage and easy eighty all at seventeen dollars husband booze kind of breakthrough it can because it's a horse rice and everything's possible. Guys. Blink his first time. We spoke about blink is first time since two thousand and sixteen we've done this stats winning. It about five percent. If you're backed every horse industry award. Blink his first home. It is an absolute fill up. So they've gone with blink his first time almost one both maybe trying to get a little bit closer on shore for work. Matt very important. Nitrous trip is a figurative spayed here as e-e-eddie horses. Like, I'm a ripple go full of but nitrous strip guide eleven John McAfee wants too late. He'll ladies the quickest horse industry, or if that I want him to bay he's off forty nine dies or now, it's twelve hundred maters punches. But these I'd be big stat for these nitrous Streep. He's had three goes between forty two days and fifty five days. Those three runs a win it seen, Dan where he went two and a half seconds inside standard towing a win at Flemington where he went one and three quarters of a second. So I'd stay in on. And then the McEwen when he was forty two days off at Mooney valley, they went again one and a half seconds in. So I'd stand on these horses. Best run is always offer fresh at as Bain forty nine days for this run forty two to fifty four days where they three runs at bay ongoing nitrous strip. I think he'll drift. I think that two dollars will get answered somebody who ran to forty two dollars fifty familiar. I think it'd be too short at the moment. Osborne. Boozers the digestive just wired about humor random and Kenny get Iran. They can you get the breaks. He needs everything to go. He's mumbles ongoing night two Streep king win another group. One tell you wanna stay locked us stats. He can't knock stats genuine stats between forty two and fifty five dis. What are you going for that? Well, if he wasn't wearing ease. What did the FOX I- jacket on today on size coming up like a para ranger that was very impressive Julian very now is what do you think about the mouse? I on for Nitra strip. Yeah. It's interesting, obviously, they're trying to get into settle a little bit. He can be a bit of a physi- horse. He's always been. Fizzy, and he can sometimes do that really extra work early. You say physique for the pundits out there who don't know that to easy just sort of in the guide he can just Rev up a bit. He can slowly sometimes miss the cake. So I think those enough so obviously the tight the Sanday out just to let the horse, relax, John, Mexico the pistons probably in the game as well. That's a be positive that was kind of long story short institute. Very good, the fizzy nece branding, which you very accustomed to is to try and get these holes to settle these first two longs to run six furlongs. And that's the reason he trawl very well leading into this. And he's just a superstar. It looks like a superstar. He's a superstar. But he's coming up against a superstar. Now who nearly beat who nearly big nitrous drip last dot over twelve hundred meters. Pirata the last hop player out of illegal him. He came out and won a group one all I have to that that whole Sydney's rice. He's always been boobs. He's last full runs. Gallup's have been seconds in group ones. You can't knock he's form. He gets back. But he. Doesn't have to get to back with the blink is on first on the I love this from James Cummings Troy and stimuli. These holes digest on that half length mall. Now Niger strips drawn out waterlog join in on concern about a rook track all along with a bit of juice in the track Niger Streep that I feel is going to be crucial can get across and get a soft laid he he'll ping and you'll Gallup out. Well, but always been booth conceit that little bit closer from the blinkers on first time, he'll be having just needs to negate the right path to get at and try and smoke him light. And I think it's been booze can win as first time this time, Eddie's fifth crack at a group wanna rice, would you believe it? Dying with lows booms been boobs. The breakthrough for the nature strip for Jews. Heck Amita talking. Like he does. It's there. I know what a fair line for folks anymore to count on three one Covad. We'll got it. Cool. If he will go around the country pedal blade is everything coming up right after the break. Well, we're back to three one Kevin is in Bram Wego, Julian Vallance Solomon, Ma who used to be group on winning jockey mayo. He's just a small individual who come in on it. So let's have a look at some cool field rising. This weekend is a great wakened of rising rice number seven the Lapan funerals handicapped. The Tom on one hundred maters propel three ten the coming up which on I want to be logs is six dollars. No tie bands on fire. I fifty voila he's a ten riceville storm and delusions which I am delusional. Sometimes is thirteen wouldn't just say sometimes look plenty of Spade in this rice, I think Trump is ENA another shame spams on far. They're all gonna go forward. So this is going to be a genuinely run rice he upon his or think, it's a very day Bryce, I think propels fiber eighteen couldn't get that short go to render four dollars four dollars twenty four hundred forty Mark. So I think it's going to drift, but it's definitely a good winning chance. The horse are settled on was light. Vega. It is big odds. And I think it's going to run a big rice. It just drew the wrong part of the track last week at Flemington United to be up on the ad. So I'd Riley Drouhin. So I'd still rent or thought very well behind poise destroy, but what I do like about these horse is it's winning a maiden. It was just a maiden. But it was a foster on rice. It was the only time it comes out of a foster on rice, eat one. It ran really good loss for one hundred loss two hundred sections, which we'd love we always speak it back when you're in foster on rises if you can still run a good law section. Geez. It means. I think you've got above average ability that who was that beta homeless called more payment, which then went on a month. Three really good rices in town. Why think I Vega is a whole lot of potential, and I think he can win Oregon. It's a great H Y lady. Well, the big thing, I think it's just a Bryce, and I also think you know. We can see it in the form. God did it filed boss dot and look Bryce, there's no doubting that so I just think he can see off them and don't be surprised at four dollars Nieto. I think it will start single figures. Solomon, let's of ability and lack of potential might be a new house today. Light been does not make sense Giuseppi light value just gets back just to need that nauseous run that slipstream through. So a little bit oaks they for light. I can tell you as and stuff, there's a whole code becoming a panels. And if you got back and watch his wholesome on boo was backed heavily at Cranbourne jumped sat big strongholds told me to try and see souls and absolutely bolted in either the thousand Mehta Mark had plenty of spice and time in between runs. One hundred meters are locked joining lucky king takes the client fifty two kilos jumps dictates term on speed. This horse are like this time of the benchmark horses that have at lightly rice and up against it on the set die coming at a provincial meetings that have shined. This ability are locked these holes in this rice around the six dollar sick and fiber graceful storm. We're not fooling Dulles beat thrills to last start. This was a good win this source and had no luck electrolyte plaque prior. So that's good value. If you plying the moldable 's and resistible, girl, she just jumped ordinary last dot she can turn it around from guide seven she's wanted to watch resistible girl graceful stolen, but the commoner with lucky king on board. Tagging that law climb is going to be one of the books. I'm really keen on watching her Gallup rice seven and the only way out of the books. I well lady by h why both it'd be the culmination seeks, let's have a look at rice number the thoroughbreds handicapped. I have a twelve hundred. All six is is they look the point leeann Ida Hinchey was three is that I ended to ninety order of command very nice who was three dollars ninety first hand and jungle age six dollars a little bit of Reiner around jungle edge full of non on wisely. Nuns villa Mont known fifty eight here brandy? I think jungle edge you'll be able to go forward and laid on Leslie probably a tight taika spot forward. But I don't think there's going to be a lot of tame pout a sit on a Horthy that I think has jumped at at -standingly, he's nailing the meek price Yod from daycare w nine as Leonardo to Hinchey. He's had six starts for three wins. The three losses have been within under two-three links unless that big margin where he lost to three horses or the two horses because he lost twice to one horse. Brutal. Which we now know is that don't cost a handicap, we know and the other is the autumn sun, which one thousand group ones in the spring. I think it's the ROY form we love three year olds in my we locked talking about figures, and how it all matches up. If you backed every horse. Two thousand and seventeen three year olds against open handicap, horses, eighty percent return on your investment. It is absolutely a fill up in my three year olds against the older horses in open handicaps. This is what happens you Leonardo Davinci fifty four kilos on the minimum. Or I think he is a very nice. It was the jump was outstanding or think you'll be winning. And if there's a little bit of juice in the truck if the Ryan comes first two runs or on soft tracks. He absolutely blitz them. Oh, this is what's known as a my fill up. We've just been told. And I love that. I love getting started when Jews get excited. What about you? He painted good pitcher gripe pitching Leonardo da Vinci, grad chancy, Gylfi very nicely. What you did? Learn learn at FOX. I duly God. He's jump out on the thirtieth. The viper was shop. That's what he said. And he's on tests for the handicapped. Did he he's on a the bro handicapped? So our economic process going and wound that'd be still cold. Also, go to protect these value to be winning it this time of the year on a Saturday to then guy full and boys ticket to a strategy group IVA food eight hundred fifty meters, so Leonardo da Vinci the coal on top for me. I think first-hand hand can turn it around each got a jump a little bit better. He's fond of tactical advantage and fell swoop school enough. He can stand up our dime. Think or command down he's up to these class. These everything that guy ROY needs to run a Paik rice from that holes and villa Mont. He's just going to fund these a little bit to shop wipe theme to get up to the seven feelings, and maybe even the mauled in. Million Ida Hinchey. He's gonna boys ticket to the stretch. Bright Gandhi crap group one rice, he's go to the on Saturday law two men who are very very confident in I'll follow man, anyway, who is respond or hair tie. And he doesn't have the hair to pull it back. And that this man, he just rose with lean on it of those boys. We're gonna hit to a brag up after the break going around the country penalty betas Jones multi join us then. Welcome back, the three wide cover. This is the Tom way we try and fall and you a win if everywhere Arandas strana in around the country. Like gets me retail. I'm just rolls in the gills. Let's say the w y food that before I've number one day code three wins from five this is a really progressive for. So you think punt is coming out of a really good weaned lost audion really good time three quarters of a second. So I'd stay and we'd love that this divorce. We can continue to fall out. And I think it'll be winning again day cow. We're gonna to Jews and we're gonna head straight over the city of churches Mulford Ville. Yeah. Rice wine, number seven, really nice to your old. He at you had me at how low one seven and a half links at goal or I think it's going to back that up and continue to win. You had me at Hello Aric. And this is a really nice always it could have bigger fish to fry in the future, Tom Cruise high. Hi. Hey, show me the money. Rice to number four. Nice brings to the table. He's Rufa dick collect I we love these time. We remember we don't even I team. Team had two runs in. He ran into HR who was then very close up at group three level. That's really good foam. And he's sick and round. He was behind Audi to and they run fast, Tom in that rice, a logging jewel in a lock him set for these rice and gives you guys Abboud. You guessed it, do I down. That's a good gauge Z down. There didn't a full. Too bad Jews night to strip is the best up there. What is the other based you go to year REIs seven number ten James zone. We spoke about him lost. When he got the job done for us when he was talking on the three or three year olds. And he won very convincingly sties at sixteen hundred maters, but he takes on the Oklahoma says we spoke about three year olds against the auto horses. These fits the profile again James on he. So I'd stepped most of the economy to really focus on the Brisbane kind of. And I think it's an absolutely sensational move. Jim song win here and back up and run five or in the doing Ben cap next week Queensland Marshall, multi Josie montage is very well plies, and she's a rightful number twelve. Remember, she bided to and around and she wanted to group three level, then she ran into a stable might era and just got to back in that sorta rice, and we tip jet era thea in that rice, I think she's beautifully deal. I lock drawn five because she can get three pays back. She's the class runner in the rice K McEvoy. Third eight hundred fifty get all mode. No, that's what we're doing. And it's the we hitting near the New South Wales in skyward. Yes, sky and on the line mating for them. So which thing all the best rice seven number seeks more strip off a little bit of a fresh and did start ten dollars in the Kumo classic that big group. One for the Phillies and maize up in the New South Wales rage and look fairly ordinary in that rice, but we lock it off a fresh in punt as Ed the sky until you wanna be probably midfield. Worse. Does five a horse as coming in the middle of the track and storming Heim Maastricht fits that Bill or think it'll run really, well, I still you'll based it's gone these big fields in this plenty of value throughout these cat at sky and five so I've gone with one rice five number third. I around the sixteen dollars H Y old. I wanted to buy these one two in a row and looked lock. And it's a very loudly rice to run into a smile on. And Sylvia's mother who was very close to an Akita. Johnny biting one point links at group two level. The was put away after flopping next dot after. Okay to giants run. And then trowel beautifully leading into this drone to can take just off a hot spayed come to that middle part of the track. She's a ran sixteen dollars rice five number thirteen one to buy. And finally this e cool feud year, we spoke a bad. It's early rice. I really liked. It's right. Your old Leonardo taking, you know, can add to much more than what we spoke. But I think you'll be winning. It's the trying to give the punishment mile. He could have just give something else. Go field. Okay. Rice, very plays number one Tory. Guess who's dying in Melvina? Rod not broadening group. One rice. Craig williams. Thanks for asking. And do night. 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"Welcome in you have found yourself listening to gun talk nation and we thank you so much for joining us and today we've got a great show for you. We've got Mr John Henchi F R. C. If you don't know him, you probably should that's firearms ranging clothing there in Baton Rouge it's a great store and it's a great range and if you're looking. To have some interesting things happened always talk to the guy in charge and that's who Mr John Henchi as John Thank you for joining us. Eight Kevin Dollars Pleasure man. Thank you for joining us on gun talk nation, and this gun talk nation is brought to you by Springfield armory and by lockdown secure your lifestyle. Hey, we also I'd be remissed to not mentioned eighteen eighteen optics options from a t and includes smart hd, ultra hd thermal and night-vision rifles goes binoculars, Menachem Range Finders diagonals and more. So they they've got so much frigging stuff. Could fill a big box store I kid you not they've got. They've even you know what? John. Even this might be a cool idea for the range. If you guys were having to do this whole lot down stuff and and you know making sure people's temperatures are good. They've got a temperature reader that is frigging awesome and it's actually a pretty budget friendly under two thousand dollars. So they've got a little bit of everything and if you purchase an ATS by exit thirty, four, four were Lt. you get a free gift like thermal targets and I are eight fifty pro illuminated the quick detach mount. Or even an D. card. So you can record all those hunts and all those missiles and you will know exactly where you land. But by yours today at eight, hundred, thousand core dot com, and we're going to get back into this now with Mr John. Hinchey. Of F-. Okay so what is your role at F. RC and how how how do you play a part in that? I know you play a big part Yeah camera on the on the general manager of seeing. I'm also the chief instructor here. ENFORC-, somewhat unique as gun ranges go. In that we come at pretty much everything. We do from a training perspective We're we're not a typical gun range in that. Everyone here on the staff or actually certified professional arms instructors. and so everything we do basically comes from a training perspective and I. I consider my primary job to be coordinating all the training and making sure more instructors are up to snuff. and our mission really is is is training the armed citizen law enforcement. We train armed security guards You know we we you know people can come here and they can get on the range and they can shoot and Li like a typical gun range But as far as the the the prism that everything goes through, it's all. It's all from the. Perspective of training. And that's US and living in the days where we are. Now, we see that more often as more people are seeking out that training and we just got finished shooting with you guys on first person defender. So that's where you know when you're seeing these first person defenders of video series count out. You. That's F R C. that's their facilities and it's actually a big. Big Expansive. Facility I mean. You guys have a lot of square feet to half on. Right, we're actually We're in the process of building another eight shooting lanes which should be open by January first. once I don we will be the largest indoor training facility fire string facility in the state. Now. They'll. They're still one more range state and we'll have more lanes but as far as the totality of the training in us, will be the largest one of the state really try to see you say something that I think is actually really interesting because when I referred to you guys I'm like it's a range that's as ranch but you it's firearms as Firearms Training Facility. So I guess I need to change my thought process on you guys being trainers first range really I mean because you guys are putting on so many courses. We don't what's funny about that. So it actually causes a little bit of friction between me and ownership as well. You know we're not sales people. we're. Trainers Recall out. John. Yeah you're you are salesman because the times we're living in. Now you can sell just about anything gun related whether it's you know optics or or the ammo especially because we were just talking about. Right. True But why can I do that Reggie Belt my philosophy honestly. In order for me to sell something to a shooter, I have to one hundred percent believe in it personally. Yeah. I'll give you give you really good example that when I first took over here up or see there we had about seven or eight hundred dollars worth of inventory on the shelves of Surpa Holsters. And I I think everybody is Trent is cringing at this point when they hear. They were there. They were there already on the show before I showed up. And I honestly was my third or fourth day of work and I didn't even know they're out there and I had a customer come up and attempt to buy one from. and. I should. I said you know Sir I. Can't tell you that. He's like what he means right here on the shelf. Got It. Exactly. Why not and I said because I don't believe in it and I think you can get hurt with it and I think it's a dangerous holster and I also I don't think it's A. It's a good holster result defense. So I can't sell it and he's like really I said yet but I'll point you in the right direction to get some proper gear. Now, do you know that individual became our most loyal customer? Well, I I understand why but you know what actually was funny as is I'm sitting there and what was I was looking for something I was looking for a pin for my glock like I had misplaced the trigger pin and I was like man I know I put it somewhere and I was like Oh, let me go to my spare parts store which happens to be I. Don't know why don't don't question me on this. John. I don't WanNa get into it but I don't know why but it's in my bathroom second drawer down it's just gun parts. And so I was like, yeah I I'm pretty sure. Gun Parts all over. Europe. Bode well. But that's my like jor of like, okay. I've replaced trigger or I've replaced some part on a gun, and then the old part of the original parts was highly recommend everyone keeping those do not throw them away because I mean you know why? Because stuff breaks now stuff you know you find something that you don't you think you might like but then you've got to go back to the original because that's the way it should be done like if that's The. Whole thing. So I was in there and holy crap. What did I pull out was a surplus wholesome and I was like What the Hell is this doing in here. I honestly I don't even know if it's And I Let's. Blackhawk does make some good walters. Others that was just ever since the text Gruber Video I. Feel sorry for that guy to this day. That should be a lesson to us all but they've got a lot of great holsters. Just not one of them news. That's right. That's right. Well, that's correct. That's rubbish. But again. If I don't believe in a product, we won't sell it to you and that's a that's a training comes from being trainers. You know I i. think there is something to that in in the trust with the guy behind the counter because. I saw mean this week on about guys. You know what? It's like being a guy behind the counter of big store you know they're not they're not hiring. A you know in the big box stores you know you go and they've got all this equipment and they're like, well, this is what I well you go in the next day and he's pointing in another direction because. They just got training on something else. So you really gotta you've really got to pay attention to the guys. You've got to trust the guys that you deal with. Exactly, I completely agree and I and I think Are At least We've gone a long way towards towards gaining are our shooters trust and they they come to us for council about any number of panels equipment training. all kinds of different things and you know. Even from the training perspective, one of the things I never want to do. Is Become academically inbred. I want them to train it up for C., right. I, want them to take some of those courses with us and get that exposure and some of the things that we can them, but I also want them to go out into the world and. Let's take a class when a Tom Gibbons or a Mossy I'm always different people and we'll point them in that direction will help them on that journey just broadens their religious broadens their their spectrum, and it broadens their knowledge because they may have different drill that they run and they're like, oh never you know kind of always there is and gives them some a couple of moments. But what you guys I think one of the most impressive things and and we are talking with John Henchi of F R. Out of baton. Rouge and there's a reason now this is. This is this is a national show gun talk nation is for everyone. It's not just for Louisiana and it's not just people passing through. This is for everyone and I really press you to go to your local range and find out what they can do for you and and if they offer programs because what John Right now is doing with his new shooters program, it's called the Sentinel Program. Is absolutely phenomenal and this is this is a program for everyone. Is that correct? Oh absolutely any anyone and in the states can is welcome to come and take We've found regionally a catch students as far as Mississippi enroll in the program. again, it's a fairly new program. We've only been at it about a year. maybe a little bit over a year but we've had tremendous response lots of participation. and it's you know I I I thought it'd be baton rouge surrounding areas. You know it's it rains as far as Covington And even the Texas border like Charles and that. They're like what is the program tells what the Sentinel Program and I'm GonNa let you describe all Everything that goes with it but how I understand it, it basically takes you. Through everything about a gun you go. You actually get to shoot in a shoot house. Yes. FRC has a shoot house on site, which is an amazing. It is a sims. House. Not Live. Fire but they go through that. They go through medical they go through the legal side of things and I forget how many hours they end up spending on the range. And, they walk out with their concealed carry license. So I'm GonNa, let you dive down in the weeds, but that's the way I understand. Oh. So, just as a broad overview the seminal program is basically a comprehensive battery of training courses that are designed to build quantifiable competence with a handgun in a in a new shooter or even an intermediate shooter Basically when a candidate signs up with the single program we scheduled them for about ten different classes. Those classes start with a first time shooter class, very basic fundamental class. there concealed carry classes included in the program and from the concealed carry class, they will advance to our draw clinic in our enhanced concealed carry class, which then starts them into the media actions. Malfunctions tackle an emergency reload and and so it's a, it's a progressive. The progressive program than that builds on itself as they go forward. they eventually take our defensive pistol class, which is our advanced combat handgun class. They will take Three hours of hemorrhage. Trauma. right they will take. Two hours of intensive legal knock from us because we're not lawyers however they they learn typically when they take the legal seminar with Mr. James Reeves out of New Orleans who wrote Louisiana Gun law, which by the way they are required to read as part of the program now. Right and then. The character to if you if you don't know him just go check out. On. On. Our. Something I learned about six months ago that he favours very short attire. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. His his gun shore. When he's on the range I spent I spent a couple days with him with Mr James. Phenomenal guy like well rounded extremely intelligent but I've spent a couple of days with him on a range with like. Clint Smith. A bit thunder ranch. Taking a rifle course and he took them in the shortest shorts. I think I've ever seen any one grown man where I don't think i. Shocked me. I think he painted them on. He wore those shorts to clinch Smith's class. Oh. Yeah and you know if you know. If you know Clint Smith Yeah he rode him like a rented mule that day. He. was. Areas but. I me I more respect to him if he can show up in those little gummy shorts that he's got. Ooh Man I tell you it was it was something it was entertaining to listen listen to be there. The day Oh my gosh. But anyway. I. Digress. Yeah but but getting. So James comes in and I mean top top. So Down Sawyer in Louisiana Bar born I don't think there's more knowledgeable guy out there on a gun law. and so he comes in he he speaks store sentinels they get two hours with him on a regular basis They have to read this book best part of they take a one hundred question written exam, which is largely based on mister uses his book. they have to pass two courses of fire, but they live far call on the ranger self. Any munitions call in shoot house. So we're not just providing them a bunch of training. But we're hearing your testing them on this and I. Man. I. In we had or of your students and one student is currently going through the program or a couple are currently going no just wondering going through the program right now we had three graduates on first person defender. You guys can wash out on Roku and you youtube and we'll post on our facebook, but it's it's one of our more popular programs but I'm telling you what? After hearing about the Sentinel Program and after seeing people go through first person defender. Hundred percent they made better choices than those that. Those. In the previous years and you ask me candidly after how am I candidates do and you asked me and I told you honest I said man I think they were about an eight out of ten. I mean they you know there's some stuff that we made them think about, but we had to make them think. Because, that's what it. Is All about it? We want you to think about your next steps in what you're doing, but they all did they did a phenomenal job because they thought after the shot. Because a lot of people, a lot of people sit there and think, in John, you see this all the time is they think, okay. My in my shoe, what's going to happen is I'm going GONNA take the bad guy and boy I'm going to be celebrated nominee I'm not gonNA have issues well, no. Because, as Clint Smith always says, they're a projectile, you throw down ranges attached to a lawyer. And we've got A. Thinking beyond beyond that in entanglement in that engagement, you've got to think beyond that and I think that's one thing that the sentinel program has done. Is banned it makes people think. I agree that you know we think that that's so incredibly important that they consider not only. The what happens prior to the engagement but the aftermath is well. First of all if we can convince them to avoid. A legal force engagement at all costs? And we've done our job I think one thing you will find with sentinels because we stress it so much. You know one of the things we tell them right up thought. Nothing. Good nothing good happens. Once the guns come out. Nothing good. Win Lose or draw your life is going to change dramatically and usually not for the better. and so. Hopefully, we're building some degree of hesitation in our certain roles to even get involved in I. Think I think hesitation as I think hesitations the wrong word because I didn't see any way struggle. I think I think hesitations kind of a negative word because I don't think they they didn't hesitate when they were on the show I. Think they were they were. They weren't slower to react, but they processed slower they process that information. So I, use. The word hesitation Kevin I mean hesitant to expose themselves to a situation where they would have to. Situational Awareness conflict avoidance is something we stress. Stress you. Know One of the things we talk about all the time John Farnum, three three rules, right? Do stupid stuff. Don't go places don't hang out with people and we hammer that home as far as we possibly can because they're going to win every single fight that they're not involved and I know it's Cliche but I know it's a cliche but it's so important to hammer that home and then we have to hammer home the after mass. The fight sometimes after the incident is going to be far far worse than the incident itself death and it's very important for them to understand that. Well that's The Sentinel Program and and I hope. If you manage a range or and you're listening to gun talk nation if you're listening to this I hope I hope you reach out to f RC John and talk to them about implementing. This program goes nationwide honestly I mean I. Hope it starts here local and it grows because this is something. I. If you're a beginner, if you're an intermediate shooter, this is a valuable stuff for you but we were. Talking at the end of the shoot and you know to the participants, what's the? What's the first thing that happens and it's May and how fast something can happen and and you've drilled that into them and I and I think it's a great program for heck in. Now have you had any advance shooters go through? Out had at least one law enforcement officer, it went through. What were his thoughts? I mean, that's that's actually kind of interesting. Why would why would a guy? WHO's you know we paid to? Carry a gun. Why would he go through that? Well? You know it's funny when we have long forced officers, we have A armed armed security professionals take some classes. You'd be amazed how many of them say we never learned that this at Academy Or we never learned this and training. and you know I mean, I, was I was a sheriff's deputy and I understand what posters and understand what the training is and everything and you know you do get a a a good two weeks of training when you're a law enforcement officer and academy and everything at least of it's obvious that The dowers patrol officer out there nationally only get about sixty hours of fire specific training even in academy. and you. You know as well as I do pistol is a perishable skill. Yes. If, you don't practice consistently all the time It is very easily lost now and I think that's what happens to a lot of these guys you know let's face it. COPS ARE ARE PEACE OFFICERS I. their primary job is to de Escalate? and. So Is An absolute, I love. I. Love. I. Love Don't don't don't go stupa places don't do stupid stuff and don't hang out with stupid people. That could give you out of ninety percent of the engagements right there. Well, that's it. That's it. You know but it's easier said than done. Isn't it? Oh, yeah we got like I've got like four or five of those friends two of them are sitting in this room with me. But you know or maybe I, am that friend I don I hope not. But you know we. And then on on on f while we're there and we had to make your your your candidates, your sent candidates we had to make them react. We had to put them in situations where they are not. They are not going to escape an attack. They are not gonNA. You know we did a gas pump we did someone driving into a riot. We did he classroom we did a church. So, we've got like these situations that. You'RE GONNA fill your car up with gas. You know you may go to an advanced learning course you're you're going to go to church you you know and you may drive up on one of these like spring you know riots as they just bring up some. You know that's that's really the crux of the matter isn't it that you can't always avoid it? And and so in cases where you can't avoid it. we do our very best to make them as efficient with a handgun as they can possibly be to win. Because sometimes, you just can't get around. There's an old saying that just because you personally have no interest in violence doesn't mean violence won't take an interest in you. As angry words I mean that's that's all. As some that is something to think about. Okay I'M GONNA I'M GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Break away from this I WANNA get into. Of couple of quick fire questions for you and I know I, want you to answer the I wanted to answer these from the hip. And we talk about a couple of them but. We're GONNA do quickfire. Favorite. Okay. Favorite Handgun drill for a new shooter. What are you? GonNa put them through. And I you know okay. My favor handgun drill honestly exemplar drill. Drill. Explain. It for us. Okay. So one of the things I do so you know it's very very difficult to. To verbalize a physical sensation. Right. So when we talk about trigger press sight alignment the exemplar drill basically is where I, manipulate the trigger. the shooter has their finger on the trigger, but structure manipulates the trigger for them. It does a couple of things number WANNA confirms that they know actually what sight alignment is only job is to keep the lights aligned perfect site. Victor. and it also demonstrates to the allows them to spill with proper sugar take-up and press should feel like. and so So that's It's so hard to verbalize that I think an as a desert drill that Maasai you actually Well. Mosh said, he wished he had found out that that the Marines are actually doing that drill back in the nineteen. But. But Mazda's as many very famous. That's probably my favorite drill if I had to narrow down to one. Okay. Now that now, what's your favorite advanced shooting drill? Oh casino drawl. All right. Explain it for him. Okay Casino draws something Tom Gibbons developed So it's three magazines seven. Twenty one rounds. Okay. So so you're saying one thing. That's right. Twenty one rounds twenty one seconds three mags of seven. So you've got to make changes and you have to put your rounds into corresponding number on the target. So when you have a trend typical transition target, one, two, three, four, five, six. You gotta put one and one to into three and three, and in the MAG change comes up when you're not expecting it change magazines you've got gotTa do all that twenty one seconds Oh Man That actually it'd be really good rule we might have to we might have to pull that one. We're GONNA we're, GONNA, your. saw. I Bet It'd take me a while to figure that one out. But I've only be. That drill once or twice to be honest with you my best time on it it's like twenty seconds, but it gives you something to push for right. Absolutely Girl move are well John If folks listening to, guntalk nation this podcast or their viewing in on YouTube how can they get more information from you and where can they find our? While GEICO can always go to our website. We have a great website We didn't for a while we just we just spent a whole bunch of money on a really really good quality website that website is www dot f.. R.. C. B. R. AS IN BATON ROUGE DOT COM. www dot F. RCB are dot com on their They can find out any information they like to know about the range, all of the classes that we offer and they're quite a few including vehicle defense. We do a vehicle defensive munitions we don't enforce unfortunate I, mean speaking, find all of that on they're thinking also, and because I consider so important. All My guys are instructors where they can actually go under the instructor staff and they can pull up the BIOS of every single one of my officers and see what they. Are With their background is experienced and and so I think that's important as well. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. You want to know who you're going to train with right Yeah, John Thank you so much for being on gone talk nation and thank you to all of you. Who May you're? All right. You guys have a good day and see. You guys. You guys again soon. Yeah we'll see you quite sued you guys out in gun talk nation you guys be safe and stay vigilant always stay yellow.

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Warning From Caller About Buying Magazines; Arkansas Woman Carries In Church - Wants Carry Insurance; Purse Carry Techniques: Gun Talk Radio | 09.06.20 After Show

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Warning From Caller About Buying Magazines; Arkansas Woman Carries In Church - Wants Carry Insurance; Purse Carry Techniques: Gun Talk Radio | 09.06.20 After Show

"The wacky gun talk after show cruise daughter and there's no telling what they'll say. I ever. For Showtime, we're going to get together just kind of shoot the breeze, even more free form if possible during the regular gun, talk show got Jim Kinsey and Tom Hinchey with us today. Hey, guys. Fun Staff Today. Some calls you know a particularly liked it's. Always makes me feel good. When somebody says, you know I finally listened to you and I went out and bought a gun belt and that's off pedder. Really you don't say. Well why didn't I think of that right hey God told you. That's why we do this. I realized that they all look like belts and well, they all our belts. It really isn't until you buy one and start wearing you go. Wow that really is differed. That's a lot better. Any also went to open outside the waistband Kerry even though it's concealed carry and that's what I've been doing for the last year and I like that I mean there are times when I still do inside the waistband Kinda depends on. There is no answer to anything and guns. Early when you think about the different situations, you know everything's got to be flexible life as an audible time. I disagree with everything you said Great. So. There are right answers except when they're not oh, wait what true words of wisdom. Yeah. Where are we going to find any? Hey, we got somebody else who? Sees the merit and taking your advice? We have even Pensacola there's one other person and in other. Hey Steve how you doing man I'm doing well thank you. Good. So what's cooking well? Had the good fortune of running across a Beretta eighty-five. It was for sale a about a month and a half ago, and I've been wanting that bread eighty four for the longest time. But I just I just couldn't swallow pay into the six, hundred fifty dollars for or that was about the retail at the time and and then at the time. Pass, and they quit importing them. So then it became a, you know you gotta go on gun broker dot com and deal with whatever you get from that. So I just never I just never pursued getting a the Cheetah in anyhow so I got an advertisement. You know the weekly email from a gun shop that I've dealt with in the past and And just looking down through what they were offering while here's a bread eighty, five Italian police turn in and it was only three hundred and I think seventy nine dollars right and So yeah. So I thought Oh heck I'm GonNa jump all over this. Well so it just fortunately happen to order some Hammo from them at the same time which happened to having stopped. Well. So then it it came with just one magazine I thought okay. Getting Extra magazine shouldn't be any big deal at spread name brand and. They should be all over the place well. Not so and so I, I just wanted to let you know that that your advised on making sure that you you buy. Extra. Magazines when you buy your your firearm and extra ammo is is sage advice and I would step further that before you buy a a firearm that might be a an outer production firearm to make sure that you can find amas. For, ammo before you, you know you pull the trigger on making the purchase so that you you're not finding yourself with just a paperweight. You know it's a good point if you're buying a used gun or when it's not a production anymore can you get megs for it because? Now you're in the situation you're going to be on the hunt for megs for awhile I'm sure you're gonNA find them but they're not readily available right now. No, it didn't like you know it. So it again, my advice to anybody listening would be whatever you by check on. Make sure you can find magazines for before you. You know you purchase the firearm because. That naively that heck it's such a such brandon there should be a million of them. Maybe. A million people already bought them. And while you're doing that research to see if those available somebody else bought the gun. Talk Days if you wait too long with the gun won't be there for me. And Luckily if I if you have minute, I can tell you background on the AMMO that bought I ordered one hundred rounds of of reloaded. Damn. Well, they said it was new ammo but I believe it'd be reloaded 'cause last bag. kind of like one of those one of those deals where you you know you you, you pass the money to a car window and you get something back in Brown bag and you hope it's what you ordered. Data so so anyhow, I ordered one hundred, hundred rounds of of three, eighty, and So I get to separate shipments from ups that you know hundred rounds of the three. So it's like wait a minute. You Know Die Fall Asleep when I pressed the order button when back. Only. Ordered one bag of one hundred. So I contacted him and and they were quite frankly befuddled. They couldn't figure out what happened if I guess we shipped it to Ya I said, well, they said you want to send it back or you pay for it and I said send it back you crazy. Keeping this stuff so good Lord looked after me and and gave me at least family. I could take for you know for familiarization, shoot at the range and Make sure that everything's punctured well and everything but. As what we WANNA, do we want to send you back Ammo? We have here. That's yeah does not compute. Yeah. Are you kidding you even ask that question? That's silly rabbit. Your urine ice for calling him I just wish that they had hit head at duplicated the the the order more than just once. But Hey, you know. What can you do? Hey Look I ordered two hundred I ordered four and around I can. See. If he can pull that one off. Yeah. Well, congrats on the gun but I appreciate you pass along your experience of yeah. You tell people they think I'm crazy. You've actually heard them here. I'll say when you buy the gun by six extra Max six. Until you can't find any and then think while I sure I'm glad I. have some this 'cause magazines do wear out and they break in. If, you only have one if it goes down you gotten right and you always find components to repair a magazine with either you know things and the following. Yeah. That exactly right. Appreciate it. Thanks passing that along I think. You to. Let's go to line five. This this Merrill. Mayor is in the rock marrow hey good to talk to you all. Well, I'm hoping to find out. I'm pretty, I'm pretty worried with everything going on today and Hella digits. Our Society is I need to have some concealed carry insurance smart. To get information from you, all the experts are you carrying now I am where do you carry Jim Four, nine, twenty six. Day. I love it. Nineteen and It was a little too heavy for my purse. So I just quit I traded it to somebody at Church. It's great. Passer told me that you had a nineteen I said, yeah you said, I, have a little smaller and I said, yeah, and he said Yeah. So anyhow we traded and. Expanded, MAG because I didn't like the. Is Too short the Universal Church of Gasoline Gok. We have lots of people that carry a church. Good. That's terrific. Okay. Let's talk. Conceal carry insurance. Backup for those who may not know your homeowner's probably does not cover you. You'd probably do not have any liability insurance cover all that several outfits have come forward. There are two that have kind maybe three they're kinda come to go to's. The one that I've been using for a long time, it's called the arm. Citizens Legal Defense Network. And it's not really insurance in this is a little bit tricky involved but what it is, it's basically a bunch of people who've gotten together to. Defend each other if you will, and so if you need it, they can provide money. They can provide expert witnesses that provide legal counsel. And I know the guys involved and they're all top rated top people who know what they're doing. So that would be the ones call arm citizens legal defense network on their website is armed citizens network Dot Org. The other one that is probably become the other big one is US CCA United States concealed carry association USCCA DOT ORG or can't remember but. They actually started as an insurance company, and now they offer all sorts of training and magazines and events and things like that USCCA, and so I know some good people who also. Offer. The USCCA insurance. I would take a look at those two in between the two you kind of figure out which one feels better to you. But I applaud you in thinking ahead because it's if you get into conceal carry or any kind of self-defence shooting it, you could easily drop fifty grand or one hundred grand or You know you just. Heard, you talk about it months and months ago and the more the more we get into everything that's going on. It's just like man you know would wouldn't take much to you know to need it and you know you might need it. So you're right and not only is this society litigious also likes to sue. I got a question might help meryl here for you got. Both the ones you mentioned the USCCA as well as citizens legal defense network I believe. are both of those are most of these insurance companies set up where if you're in the right, we'll back you dead dead rights wrong. Good luck. Yeah. Definitely you're on your own. Coverage match you know. No I wouldn't expect them to well wonder because I've read and I they even had a rep for USCCA job available early summer here in Arkansas I couldn't apply for it because my mother was real sick and. Gone to heaven. So but at any rate yeah I. Just does can you get in touch with the armed services Turn. They are not like the USCCA. Yes. Yes. You can't. Once you become a member of the give you contact info. We actually have Mardi. Hayes on here a good bit for arm Simpson's illegal defense network and again arm citizens network Dot Org. We'll take a look I got to switch off here I. GOTTA ask some questions. Okay. How you got you got you got twenty six, which is very nice. Little pistol. How are you carrying it? Well, I have. I need to be carrying it on I'm just I'm not a very large person so it's hard to carry on person So have a a Kerry thing in my in my bag in my. I carry across the shoulder. So about hand is in the bag like at night if I'm somewhere I have my hand on on them the firearm. Good luck. Okay you're you're thinking you got to figure it out. I'm just GONNA throw a few thoughts out to you. You know Tom and GM. Anytime. Thanks appreciate one of the things that they could have you considered that you can shoot right through the purse without taking the gun out of the purse you know in past I have, and I've kind of this like this place that recently. But yes, absolutely in in that would do that too. All right. I'm GONNA give you a quick lesson on how to do that. All right. Across you're not just honor showed across your chest right? We hit. Teaching I. Shooting right handed. Guns in your hand in your purse. If you have to shoot what you would want to do with your left hand, grabbed the strap of your purse with your left hand. Okay. And then you shove your right hand out as far as we'll go against the restraint of the strap. Good idea. What does that do? What it does is keeps your left hand from getting out in further muzzle yes it does. Doesn't it? Doing a bluff a hand generally a bad idea in self defense shooting shoot yourself. Yeah. Me Terrible bad for you. It's not so bad for your assailants and and this is where I'm going to say I would say go get where they trainers firearms trainer and do this not with your purse cheap. You know get your cheap walmart purse or something and actually do it and what's going to happen it's when you shoot that one time. It's about a fifty fifty chance at that gun is going to jam. because. The slide is to get either hung up or won't be able to go back. It's not gonNA work okay right. All right. All right. You got a shot off and then what what I would want you to do to train and you may want to. Practice with a very unloaded gun. You reach out, pull the trigger click are where live gun bang and then what you do is you get your fingers straight along frame with a gun. pull. The. Gun. Purse and then you do a tap Iraq may with that action I don't know attack tell me about the okay that he would learn this. Class you. Keep your fingers straight. You tap the bottom of the magazine with your left hand. Give it a good hearts smack and then you roll your left hand over the top of the slide grab the slide and chef forward with your right hand yanked back with your left hand. What you're doing is you're ejecting the fired case and getting it ready to shoot. It's a tap to make sure that the magazine is seated and then over the top with your left hand rack slide and now you can shoot him again if need be. So you're going to pull the pistol out of the purse keep your fingers straight because he's got A. Lot. Of appendages and things going on straps everything else then do a tap rack and then you aim back in if the guys down the attackers down or if he's running away, let him go shoot him again. which is supposed to do but if he's still on you or he's getting back up or he's picking up a gun or knife wherever. You GotTa do that but yeah, I would say please go find a trainer because that this kind of manipulation I wanna say it's dangerous but. It's tricky, but it absolutely could be dangerous. It's not something teach yourself but anyone who's carrying a purse needs to have shot through a purse and then. pull the pistol out and do a tap rack reengaged because you have to assume that's going to jam if you shoot it while since have a purse but that's a really good way to get I. Shout off quickly though I've always thought that I would practice getting it out of the person and I practice each night just you know just aiming and just I mean to be sure that I still do well fighting you know. With. The fights right there I do have to do that. You do have some good instructors around there. Some self defense instructors or concealed carry instructors. Trying to find the best qualified one, you can maybe somebody who's been a cop or a special forces person or really knows his stuff and sign up for you know what you might want to do rather than for full class just say, Hey, can I go to a half day tutorial with your a full day's one on one tutorial? Work on that and he was a FBI and and local local. Perfectly. Perfect. Guy and to do the enhanced GonNa, do the enhanced conceal carry. With him because he's so I think I've heard that there is a good good class, a good two or three day classes it was in it loses Louisiana getting that wrong. There are a number of them around The academy does it. They are in New Hampshire gun sight as one that's in Arizona. Gunsight. Yeah. That's the one that's just outside of Prescott Arizona. It's very, very good again, not. Not Cheap and you have to fly there and you have to stay there and so by the time you're done honestly the reality is it's like a seventeen hundred dollar five class the full days, and you're going to be properly in two thousand, five, hundred to three thousand dollars with airfare and hotel and AMMO and everything else. So it's not cheap now no. You'll be a different person when you return. Them and if you're if you if you're a I, don't have to say it. If you donate if you contribute to wall builders, I don't know if y'all wall builders but it's a, it's a Christian Barton's guys last name he owns more I don't even know how to say it more documents regarding the constitution, and then any any single person in the in the country. David Barton yes. Okay. Yeah and But if you give to them a month monthly you can go to this gun side and you were talking about. For. Hundred. Dollars. Well. Make sure. It's G- gun gunsight and not front sight. O. B Front? Sight. To guarantee you, it's fraught site and it's not the same. I gotcha Gotcha gunsight is but they're both. Not World I'm like from Texas and so anything West it's like. Gun. Talk. Oh. Yeah. Okay We actually got a friend who calls up the Smith and Wesson? Line. Could be allies. Yes. Well, it is Kinda sorta because I used to live in New York, city, and. Wait. Wedneday y'all Kinda like this I was talking to somebody because mostly who live there don't talk on on the. Wasn't this guy was a lawyer sitting next to me and he said I just wanted to tell you did you know that in at that time I wasn't concealed carry didn't have a gun my. Anyhow. He said did you know that you can't even have mace in in New York City and I said what and he said if you have mace if you use mace you you better. have on gloves you better use, drop it and run because they will put you in jail. I said Oh. My now this is in the ninety s like right after the first world. War. Can. You imagine you can't even protect yourself in town like New York? He's absolutely correct. Yeah. macy's considered the same as having a pistol. Curious pistol then no. I. Gosh I mean. Work. Return. visit. So thank you very much. Gunsight not site. Okay. Let me just offer this. It's G. U. N. S. I T. E. G. G.. S.. It Dot com take a look at it. If you contact them tell them I said you ought to call. They'll probably charge more still. You'll fly in. But I I really. Appreciate it and thank you so much. I had heard of CCW's safe also. I don't know them and there's another call the Texas lawshield techs in Texas lawshield Yeah Yeah I don't know much about those I think they all are somewhat similar You are look at the details of okay. Win With the money kick in who who do you provide who are people involved I? Really. A fan of the arm citizens legal defense network. But, you might just take a look at it The other thing you get out of arms legal fence network that I really like is you get a series of DVD's and they have really excellent instruction. On those. That would be worth it just for that if you didn't get the other coverage yes, it would. Yes it would and I knew that you had talked about one and I I absolutely couldn't bring it to my mind what it was. So thank you all so much because these are important very important things and also check on the tap wreck action thing Oh do you have any good ideas for women? who carry on their body I mean like with a twenty six, it's. Five to. Five to and and. I know a Lotta people carry like over there sternum or their ribcage there Asaf Augusta right in kind of in the center with them. It's kind of like an elastic thing. I actually the women who carry basically abroad Kerry. There's that there's belly bands are often good for women, but the problem is your you dress differently from guys. It. But a belly band can work pretty well, you just got to train on how to draw it. I'd say look at belly bands as a possibility with that Glock twenty six. If you're not I mean obviously you can't wear a real you know tight fitting top because it's going to print and show is a relatively loose fitting top. If it has buttons down the front, you can certainly am button a button and get in there. If it's just loose, you're just basically going to be breached now with two hands pool the t the top it's like, okay I'm gonNA flashing here but. I mean who cares? Yeah. Yeah exactly. All they're gonNA the gun. See. Say. You're not pulling me out of this car. Between the seats I think for that. This I'm not going with you and whatever's going to happen is going to happen right here. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. The this is the OK corral right here. This is we're not. We're not leaving this Mississippi. Go. Girl, it wouldn't. So thank you so much. I, really love your show I think it's dynamite and I've never called after after hours or whatever it's called, but I will start listening more often the callback anytime I'll do it. Thanks. Thanks y'all. I got one question for you. You mentioned a lot of people at your church carry does church have a security team? We do excellent. Okay. We do. We do and I'm on the list to be on that but I'm not on that but other people do carry also. Yeah it's our pastor carries. Awesome. I started carrying my pastor said male and don't worry. There are many people that you don't even know their kids. Either it's a, it's a small church. But we don't plan on being attacked. GRUDEN. Good. I wouldn't be the person that tried to come through the door and attack and we just say. There you go. Thank you so much for taking for first of all. Thank you for choosing to take care of yourself and also for joining us here. This has been fun. Yes, it has been. Tell me one thing you mentioned a Mossberg months and months maybe years ago about the good firearm for a girl at home. We. Talk about the Mossberg Shotgun was coming shotgun. Yeah. They have several I would say get a twenty gauge pump shotgun. Really hard to beat because you are short. Short. You want the one that has a shorter stock and it's really really important. Don't let anybody tell you. Oh Yeah. You can learn to use this. You want you want the shorter stock it really makes a difference I'm seeing if I could look it up here to second year Mossberg dot also no, no goose gun nuts. No these long. And now you know I mean basically it's you're you're trying to you need a gun that you can handle yes. Yes and I and I Love I love my twenty six for just you know down the hall I mean I'm ready for that and I had a three eighty glock but. Yeah sold him to the guy who's my concealed carry guy. Anyhow he it's a long story, but he had had to sell his because his wife had cancer and. I said well, have it with me and he said we would you sell it and I said you're. The Ama- was worth more than it was more ammo than the. All Black Hills now hated this. Great. Stuff I hated but I thought. You know this guy is so such a good guy and he he deserves his wife call me afterwards and said, she said, I can't believe. I'm so excited to have have the three eighty again I'm so glad. I'm glad y'all have it. You know because he had to sell it they had to sell some gums when when she was going through chemo and stuff and so know. That's a blitz, the best place to have that gun. Somebody that had had one before and loved Yup. We'll take a look at Mossberg twenty gauge pump and find one that has the shorter barrel not sure correction a shoulder stock would've junior model do her yeah. Actually youth model might be the way to go there oh great. Thought of that because usually got a third a standard shotgun stock is fourteen inches and but these would have a twelve and a half to thirteen inch link the pool, and so I think that would work well for you. Okay. I'll check it out and let you know I'll have a gun I'll have a ranger fort for us but not this year. Awesome. That'd be great. We will look forward to it. You guys, Aikman. Very. Cool Day right there back. Yeah. Runoff break that's where we're heading. For anybody who is carrying a purse guy or girl. You're going to carry a semi auto. You don't I mean human nature says you want to shove the gun forward because used shooting with your arm locked out and all that you don't WanNa do the semi auto because if you knock it out of battery, she's a no shoot. She's a no go bang. That's that's true. Slide goes back with it. Now, there's a good argument for testing et get your couple of cheap purses or bags I shoved it hard in there and see if your particular gun goes out of battery however for Revolver. Here's our technique. We can talk about I know away to shoot a pistol. Of semiotics, we can shut it hard into something and not have it go out a battery will work every time and we'll tell you about that on. What a tease. The three position binary fiery system gen three trigger from Franklin armory is now available for your ten twenty, two rifle, the twenty two, C one trigger offers three positions one safe to one round purple and three one round on pole and won round on release. The most fun you can have with a twenty two. This easy to install trigger upgrade offers a smooth trigger pull and positive reset on phase find your twenty two c one trigger at Franklin armory dot com. Out here in America, we're proud of our values, your job, your vote, your country you're right to protect your family. Now more than ever our rights must be protected, but anti-gun politicians will shut us down community by community they want to ignore the constitution. We can't let them take our rights away. There's too much at stake this election. Registered to vote. Gone Folk. Protect your right to protect yourself. All right. So we were talking about yes to me automatic and you brought up a great point if you shopped the barrel into something or sometimes some body. In Chevy. Ford. Hard enough. It will come out of battery, which is just a fancy way of saying the slide we'll come back slightly it does that it engages a disconnect in the gun won't go bang. You can't pull the trigger go bank. So, your choices to not shove it against something or There are times say you are your recipe somebody I mean literally wrestling with your down the ground rolling around. Now you're on top you get your gun out and shove it into somebody's chest and you need to maintain contact with them hit like back at off right? Right. Sound Weird, simply take your thumb and put it on the back of the slide oppressor trigger and no not rip your thumb off, believe it or not you if you go to the rage and try this as I, God, it's going to hurt. It doesn't. You just hold us back on the slide with your thumb to hand grip while you're pressing the trigger, the slide will not come back. Now you will induce malfunction right? Back. To throw out the empty and low nuit, YOU'RE GONNA have to do a tap rack right after that but it's a way to ensure that you're going to at least get the first shot off and that's the critical part. Yeah I don't know who Did that was. Either braver drunk. I wondered that little. Bit. Of Resistance from your thumb enough to prevent it from cycling. Yes. It is. That's. Believe me. It won't be a little resistance because you're going to grip. The. World because you're going because it is. What this thing to. Be Scared to try it because I've been told all time that don't do that. That's an easy. Well, the reason it's an Ouchi is when people have their thumb up and they don't like completely block it they just get their hand up where the slide still comes back and just ripped skin off. But if you prevent the slide from coming back. Stick your thumb straight up whole the back of the slide, your refine your. You I. Put that away. Don't try to here on the range. Dom A. Jesus. Now, what are you wearing earmuffs? Oh I was talking to somebody the other day we were range to remember where it was their hearing protection wasn't doing what they wanted to and I was making the recommendation of electronic. Plus plugs The problem is though I mean well first of all the way the regular earmuffs not implied your work as they simply seal out the noise. But if you don't have a good seal, you're wearing a hat. You're wearing glasses for always wearing shooting glasses and you don't get as good a CEO when you're wearing glasses. If they say, it's a whatever twenty five DB reduction you may only be getting twelve. which is not enough. So you get those little stupid cheapo foam plugs. If you put those in your ears and then you put electron ICK muffs on top now you can crank the volume up on that training muffs so that even though you wearing the foam earplugs, you can hear. And then when the gun goes off electric's out the noise so you're getting the call it eighteen DB you're supposed to get out of plugs plus twenty to twenty five out of muffs it's not completely additive but. Close. Ally, you're going get a lot better than with either one of them. I know guys actually trying to Sunday night stand in case they had a home shooting home. Asian. Because I it amplifies tiptoe around stuff could hear somebody moving in your house. Does. It affect at all year like sense of direction. When you hear something they have to microphones great question. They have a microphone on each ear cup so you have left and right? Okay. So you could actually here it's. The better ones? Yes. Good Point. The cheap ones the cheap Chinese, crap. They have one microphone and they sound awful just. By that time I think. Are. Actually had one I tried where you could hear moss taking up my away. And everything in between. Like. Everything loud. and. He couldn't. He couldn't Ferenci from anything you put him on go I could not wear these for a whole range session. This is off. Anyway. So let's see this week we're going to take out the News Smith shield easy, and so jealous. Have a shot at. Noon the box. Out of the box I should just like little word of advice. No, it's just like shoot from inside of purse inserted a box can imagine taking this. This is our new form of Kerry box carry. To walk around with our box. If, anybody still wants to mess with you. I mean that's a little bit of telegraph and I'm thinking. Well. It is a stupid test. I'm carrying a Smith and Wesson box around with me. I don't know maybe a literacy can bring them in for service boxes. All over. This from I just practicing. The appear guys customer service guys have probably. Seen every day. They do have the best stories, oh. Yeah. It's like, okay. You're not gonNA believe this one. you guys been doing. Not Working on my ass chaos why couldn't find the Max? No can find ten rounds but what's the point? You know if you're GonNa, do it what Mexico going to get for this? No. No. No. The special made. mags roundhouse hasn't can't keep them in stock there disguised course and they made one hundred round drummer, which probably is illegal in Ohio. You go ahead put in an order just to be back ordered. No that was I figured I could scrounge around in the meantime. That ensure you got him I would want that would be horrible. So that would be terrible if that happened. I figured I'd I'd be able to find something just sniffing around the next couple of days and no. I'll probably go back to your so. You're actually allowed to do both you could put in an order you can for like a half a dozen, and then you start snooping around and found some more. It just means you're going to get another six mags at some point. You mean, the fulfillment police won't catch on I. Think you're GONNA be okay. I really do thanks life coach. Really, ordering in, forget about it and they know. That's great because then it's like a surprise party that you gave yourself and you show up and you go I forgot I ordered these. Yeah. Biden's got a lot of those moments actually. I just got a box like that. I'd forgotten ordered a bunch of pistol cases little soft cloth, zipper bags. and. What I found is that they're really good for pistols, but it's amazing. How many other things they are good for your electronics and everything else. When some outfit like. La Police gear or somebody like that has a sale on them. I'll pick up six twelve time and just end up using for everything. But this time I was at least smart I didn't get the black ones gray ones because now I can use a sharpie on to right what's inside here? Otherwise you having to open everyone. They don't know what's in here nine usually write the words. What's inside here? No, no, no, no no. God That was helpful. Thanks so much. Nice. I like marriage call I really did I think she's She's got it going on. Yeah. Yeah. I I would like for her to get with a trainer she's ready for it. Oh Yeah. She's she's mentally at the right place he just needs to fill in some gaps on. This whole thing shooting at a purse is not something most people think about and it requires more training than you think it would you know? One of the reasons that we like revolvers and purses, you can shoot arounds out of revolver and a purse. If you if you have cameras volver. You've done that on camera on TV. It's really interesting out okay. Show forward right and the first shot it just blows out and Burns the bag or the purse right and as you continue to shove the Muslim goes out the whole. Yeah. So now you've got this purse with this barrel sticking out and with already you're basically setting fire to everything inside an Time you don't care including. In slow motion, it's Cool Martin your hand in enough does not but it's Now, you really can't reuse the person that well, it's pretty much toasted point just take it out lipstick fallen out of the hole and stuff just your duct tape. It's all. Good luck can we can we descend any further than we are at the moment I'm sure we can. But who would well assuming they might still listening we could lose all at that point. So I think we could call it quits say what I will endeavor to have a range port next week on probably three different guns that I was able to bring up here. Play with and with any luck. Jim You've been here in the cabin. Look across the lake cannot see the opposite shore much less damage fog. Smoke from our smoke from the California. This is smoke from the fires is your wider nobody's GonNa live. Far Wow. But tomorrow when turns around it'll probably be out here. We're going to push back where it belongs winning wind shift wing shift. That's right. There you go. Gavin I'll be able to hire men machine I will. Go Out and do little. Report back meantime, your homework assignments fine to mag so you can continue this s brought. Yes I intend to do that in. Huntington of the word I'm looking for, but I intend to do that. As soon as promised. In Michigan. Okay You guys. Good. Henry weeks be good goodbye. Thanks for checking out the after show and don't forget to join the gun talk squad at Gun Talk Dot Com, and grab gun deleo for your smartphone. It will save your money on guns Ammo.

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AnimeCons TV - SacAnime Summer 2019 Report

AnimeCons TV (MP3)

14:55 min | 1 year ago

AnimeCons TV - SacAnime Summer 2019 Report

"Hi welcome to any is t._v. I'm patrick daily hinchey. I'm here to talk about sac anime summer twenty nine eighteen now patrick he may be thinking doesn't sec enemy usually take place over labor day weekend. It's august. How are you reporting on. This convention hasn't even taken place yet well this year there. They moved the somerset intimate to june was held june seventh through ninth. <hes> originally i thought that was because they didn't want to have to compete with <hes> crunchy roll l._x. Bio and crew will expert moved onto their weekends. I figure rather than fight them. They'd like all right. We'll move to summer and then it'll be six months. Actually that's the reason they moved because starting in july the sacramento convention center started to do renovations and so as of this time the convention centers closed in any events so they had to move it to june <hes> that means that the winter edition and next summer are not going to be at the sacramento convention center. They're actually moving the convention to cal expo and then in january anuary 2021 they'll be moving back to the sacramento convention center all renovated and hopefully much better and <hes> but i'm getting getting ahead of myself because this is it's like over a year from now and i'm here to talk about this past convention from june <hes> now we've covered sack enemy number times in the past both the winter and the summer edition and <hes> really this is not much different. If you go back to their views it's has largely unchanged <hes> they don't have the falling skies is actress back this year they seem to be focusing more on the type that would be either anime or associated with anime and so they've got a lot more guests guests that fall into that instead of trying to branch out into a sci-fi cable series <hes> and and so that seems to fit well <hes> and there there are a few minor differences but i'll go through different things the first thing i noticed when i got there. The place is packed. I don't have the attendance figures two years for what it was but it was clearly more people than i've seen their ever before this this place the used the entire convention at center and it was still <hes> hard to get through some areas because there's so many people <hes> i wouldn't say it was overcrowded but i would want to see a lot more people in there because some of those some of those areas were bursting at the seams <hes> they do have essentially three large <hes> mean event or panel rooms. They have a large main event. It's upstairs that they use for <hes> guest panels and other similar things that'll bring in large audience they use halsey downstairs for special events pence <hes> that's where they do their dance the masquerade and they had a couple of large panels in there <hes> they also featured events room. It's not quite that is bigger than me and events but <hes> it's also. You know very popular panel so you can see future. Events here is about half the size of being events <hes> halsey different floor so i don't know if the size scales between the two pages but they also have a tire room. That's it's the size of halsey it's all d. It's dedicated to guest autographs. There are free autographs premium autographs v._i._p. <hes> and so in the past sometimes those halls have been taken by a greek expo. Maybe it's only during the winter it's hard keeping track with the summer and winter editions but <hes> but they had the whole convention center this time <hes> they had to smaller panel rooms show them here. There's this one appeared appeared tiny one and then there's this little this little tiny one down here and so they had some fan panels running in those and actually when i was looking through the schedule i was actually disappointed by the number of fan panels now in the past. I complained that they had too many. Ask a character panels. It seems like they heard those complaints. I couldn't have been the only one and they've drastically reduced so it's not such an insane percentage of their our panel scheduled. It's all ask a character. I mean there's still a couple and that's fine but when you look at the schedule like on friday <hes> each of the panel rooms ah has five panels each throughout the day on saturday. We've got <hes> five and six panels on sunday. It's two in three panels and they leave a half hour gap between each panel and that's good but they could fit a few more panels in there and you know if if they're not getting any panel applicants they should go out and approach some people. Maybe people have run panels in the past and say hey do you wanna come back and do this. Your panels well attended or reach out to some new people in the community and say hey would you be interested in coming to second and may run a panel. We'll give you a badge. Get people interim panels and philip that panel hale's scheduled give people more alternative programming and especially with the hallways becoming crowded <hes> filling the panel rooms is a good way to get people out of the halse offs and so that helps to alleviate overcrowding. It's a little convention organizer trick that i picked up back in two thousand eight anyway. <hes> <hes> they had <hes> guest of honor in <hes> custody photo ops they had a room dedicated to that where you could go and <hes> by by some photos professional looking photos with <hes> honor and <hes> the second also has been known as long as they've been in the convention interest inner <hes> for having their outdoor terrorist balcony as a place for college players to go and take photos. Unfortunately this year two thirds it was under construction. It was closed off to renovations. I guess they had to start that part earlier something <hes> and so the cost players were just left with a <hes> much smaller area and <hes> so i've really the crowd into that and hopefully the whole thing will be open when the back in a year and a half <hes> they did offer a cuss player lounge this year and i hadn't seen that before <hes> and it's a place where it costs payers. Could you just go <hes> big helmet or something taken off. Relax put their feet up. <hes> there's a lot of people sitting on the floor sitting in chairs dale said some refreshments for sale and some fellow players who are offering free repairs <hes> they had a tabletop gaming area and boy was that room packed packed when i went in there i hardly saw any open seats and there are certain winning the open tables it was very popular very busy and they moved out into a larger room and i can see why <hes> they'll say <hes> collectible card gaming c._c._d. And that room looked very popular as well <hes> there was a a few open spots but it was pretty popular pretty packed. They'll say the console gaming room which i actually didn't notice when i was is there because it's so small and it's so hidden away i confess i thought they'd got rid of the console gaming because i didn't see it until oh just before i was recruiting <hes> recap. I looked at the map and i noticed down here says console gaming console game room and rooms one one one two one zero four six. Oh where's that and it looked around couldn't find it. It's these tiny rooms right here and i wish sean newton known about this before so cameron there but those rooms are tiny so yeah second is definitely not a place to go if you're looking for console gaming because i i can't imagine there too many offerings in that tiny tiny room <hes> or two rooms for rooms the tiny space <hes> the the rest of second may get the the exhibit hall and that's really where a lot of people spend most of their time <hes> it's the largest room and there's a lot in there they combined their vendors in ara sally in there <hes> they also had their india sewn for <hes> independent artists which which i think everybody in artists value would be but <hes> that place was also packed and because so many people in there. I don't know if the a._c. We c couldn't keep up but it was really humid and it was very warm and i i can't imagine having to be there in there all day because because it was getting uncomfortable and if you were in cost play. It must've been very uncomfortable because you know it's just wearing shorts and tee shirt shirt like oh jeez. Oh so maybe in their last month. The convention center was cutting corners and turned the down or something but hopefully that's fixed when they renovate the place <hes> and <hes> the aisles there were there were crowded. It was hard to get through there because so many people looking at everything the c <hes> they had <hes> i think in the past they complained about the width of the aisles and they seem to be better this year. I didn't really notice too much except some aisles had a ton of people in it hard to get through <hes> and then in the back of the head concession stands and there was not a whole lot of room between the artist booth in concession stand <hes> you really had if there was a line that can fit a concession stand. It was really hard to get through because people are in line and you know it's only i don't know twelve oh feeder something which my sound like a lot but when you're in a huge convention center twelve feet that's not much space and they're going to have those concession concession booths open. You gotta leave more space around it just for the lines for the concession stand because it's hard to get through when people are waiting in line and people are trying to get through artist alley and just a better organizational space speaking better organization. I did notice in their proven guide. <hes> i mentioned before i think a couple of years ago they had printed the artist alley guide and it had like letters on the map and numbers was in the alphabetical guide which made it impossible to look up where people are well this year this map so there's good this guide to all the exhibitors and artists <hes> and if you you can see exhibits in these zone artists and they have all get marked the letter and a number <hes> couple of letters and numbers depending on what type they are and so that you can use it to find where they are on this map well. If you look at the map okay the vendors are printed sideways which is fine every artist over here. They've got it printed upside down so they should just rotated the map underneath eighty degrees the vendors would still be sideways but you wouldn't have to go like this to see all the artists <hes> this is just a page layout issue and i don't know how they let this happen to not have approved moved not look through the guide and i'm sure this'll be fixed next time but it will be some other mistake and it should really <hes> pay more attention to are there publications <hes> covering the guy by the way and <hes> so that's sec enemy summer twitter nineteen held june <hes> the next second and may will be their usual one in early january but this one will be at cal expo and <hes> i'm not familiar with facility but <hes> works out and <hes> then next labor abor day will be the next sec enemy. It'll also be second midsummer. It'll also be at cal expo in that is lit back to labor day weekend in september four through six so i'm not sure it crunchy will expos dates are going to be but it's going to be about two hours away and probably the same weekend <hes> and you know honestly if you have to choose between the two <hes> coach. Everyone's closer <hes> yeah. If you you in it you know maybe if you've been to one a lot go check out the other and then you'll know for next time although i dunno cal expo's a good judge for second man because the next time you go it will be back at <hes> sacramento convention center anyway yeah. Just you know check out the guests you who's going to witch and you help to decide and it's unfortunate that they're all trying to be on labor day weekend but <hes> because i i liked the june apparently a lot of other people did because of time people there so hopefully they'll just move back to june. Don't labor day weekend. This other stuff going on june is better anyway. That's what i thought about sec enemy summer twenty nineteen. If you have thoughts about whether it's second be summer there moved calixto or anything else or other conventions the attended the summer. Please drop us a line. You can write to us at podcast into becomes dot tv or you can leave us a voicemail. It send in sixteen adequate that seven six to three seventy two eight and we look forward to hearing from you next week duggleby here to talk about enemy next twenty nine thousand nine c. uh-huh.

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A Sun That Keeps Shining

Kind World

14:27 min | 1 year ago

A Sun That Keeps Shining

"Kind world is sponsored by XFINITY. Some things are hard to control other. Things are easy like you're in Home Wifi with Xfinity X. Fi you can set a wifi curfew. Change your password and create user profiles all with the X. SPY APP another reason why expenditure is simple easy awesome go online call one eight hundred xfinity or visit a store to learn more restrictions apply hi kind world fans. We have another podcast we need. I tell you about circle round just like kind world circle round entertains and provokes and helps restore your feet inhumanity. This beautiful podcast adapts folktales for modern audiences. It has great acting laugh out loud humor and hit with listeners across the world from the very young to the young at heart. This July Circle Round has a special pop-up series recorded live with an all-star cast and musicians from the Grammy Award Winning Boston Symphony Orchestra so subscribe subscribe to Circle Round wherever you get your podcasts produced by the I lab at W._B._Z.. You are Boston welcome to kind world. I'm yes bomber and I'm Andrea a swayed. What draws you to some of your closest friends? We often think that we need to have a lot in common but that's not always the case this week. Story is about one of those unlikely friendships. That somehow seems seems just perfect. It originally aired in March twenty seventeen. Make sure to stay tuned after the break to hear an update today's stories about Dan Petersen who lives in Augusta Georgia for years. Dan In his wife were inseparable my wife she was they met late in life and did everything together either. She drove him to work every day and he ran errands for her business and floral design. I've always been a bit of a loner so we had each other. We just devoted itself teacher. I had it all figured out. I was GonNa die I and so that's no problem all of a sudden she wasn't hospital for thirty five days. Mary's aries eighty year old heart was beating abnormally fast and went faster and faster until finally after thirty five days it stopped. Dan Sat next to his wife's unresponsive body for hours trying to come to terms with his new reality as days turned into months. Dan didn't know what to do with himself. He spent a lot of time in his garden. Remembering his wife's favorite flower white roses for being able to get a white rose to grow all darkness settled over Dan that he couldn't seem to escape. I'm sitting here staring out the window of my house waiting to see how long live I felt like about. All I have to do is getting people's way six months later on dreaded grocery run day. Dan Felt particularly depressed shave for a couple of days. Oakland had had a haircut rally for three months and didn't really give a you know what about anything except what do I do while watch squirrels he was furrow browde and when he didn't look like the friendliest man as a mother of seven terror would was all too familiar with the grocery store. Today she had her four year old daughter Nora along on the shopping cart and all of a sudden I come to the end of the hall era. I'll and here's his little girl and Hinchey SORTA bouncing up and down and pointing at me and she said Hi oh person today's my birthday yeah. I didn't quite know what Oh persons you talking to but then she kept pointing to get me. I thought that <music> case he you. I really wasn't in a good mood but didn't we have a little girl bouncing up and down being so happy happy to be alive sold. A change is sort of made my day David lately. He said Wool High Little Lady. How old are you today? The two chatted briefly and then both carts went their separate ways thirty seconds later she turned around and said can I take a picture with that old man for my birthday. I encourage my children to talk to strangers. I mean not leave the park with strangers but I don't want my children children to be afraid of people who look differently than them so Tara doubled back and the eighty one year old and the four year old posed for a photo nor asked him for a hug. I don't know it was magical and profound and it's this cosmic sweetness that happened you know right in front of the dairy section of the grocery store in the days that followed nor wouldn't stop asking her mom about Mr Dan was he lonely cold. Did he have enough cheese. Tara posted Dan's picture on facebook and one comment caught her. I and woman wrote that she knew the man in the photo and she said it was the first time she'd seen him smile since his wife died that's one Tara decided she would call Dan and asked to visit they plan to lunch. Nora just ran right up to him like she's known them all of her life. She was climbing all over him like a monkey and of course turned around. She'd come back over again. I guess pull missed it. I I let him. It's not like this was typical nor behavior. She hasn't done anything like it before something about Mr. Dan spoke to Nora. We ended up spending gosh almost three hours together that day. I couldn't bear the thought of that of him being in that house by himself with no one to talk to you so I just decided that in there that whether he liked it or not we had just absorbed him into our family of nine. I've got a Rosebush right outside my front door just Boston. A great big Red Rose New Orleans over to smell it and it was precious to me the only thing I get back. Your gun gave it to them with his pocket knife. He slowly carved every thorn from the stem and handed it to nora sort of seal our friendship I think Neko composer about every week she just blows in like a whirling dervish plunders through his cabinets and he slaps his knee and laughs and laughs and laughs. I go in his Collagen. Gloss bedstead vegetables figure goal. Tell each other secrets little seeds that I printed when you were here last time and look at how much tape growing already baby maybe you're not going to be big squash. He's so fascinating he's he's lived at thousand lifetimes and he's got so many stories to share and he's never going to be alone again nor got. The loop gimson little son came out that story was produced by Eric Lance dance will have an update for you on Nora Mr Dan and Tara right after the break support for kind world comes from xfinity. Now you can get enhanced security for your home wifi network with explicity x five if it's connected it's protected now. That's simple easy awesome. GO TO XFINITY DOT COM call one eight hundred xfinity or visit a store today to learn more restrictions apply. Welcome back to kind world. I'm yes me Namur then dime Andreas. Why yes I mean this is one of my favorite kind world stories and I've been wondering how Nora and Mr Danner doing so? I'm really excited about this update neat too so let me start by introducing you to the older wiser six-year-old Nora would how it's so good to hear her voice. She's still sounds just as adorable she is and you'll love this. She still visits Mr Dan every Sunday for for breakfast with her mom Tara and her three-year-old sister Marigold Mr. Dan is eighty four years old now but this is how old north thinks he is Florida too and she cracks me up and despite the age gap there still friends yup up almost three years later she still drawn to him because he's funny. 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The Tomb of Genghis Khan

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The Tomb of Genghis Khan

"Taste of fall drifted on the cutting breeze in the high step of mongolia. The air was chilled with hints of winter pleasant memories of summer faded behind the necessity of preparation but somewhere in the tule river valley near the foot of the hinchey mountains two thousand servants toiled over a single corpse they built a grand platform and adorned the body with jewels while a group of mounted soldiers attentively fixed. There is on the back breaking labor. When the work was finished the soldiers rounded up the servants unsheathe there sores instead them one by one the soldiers turned to the eight hundred men of the escort and told them the job was finished. The escort nodded and took the body. The whole party moved down the road for miles until the escort turned to the soldiers unsheathe their swords and stabbed the military men one by one then the eight hundred remaining men took up the body wants more in continued their road up the mountain swiftly murdering any and all parties that had the misfortune of seeing the procession when they reached the sacred ground they buried the body then they dug for weeks to divert the flow of nearby river to wash over the burial mound and they planted trees to blend into the mountainside and when the work was finished the eight hundred men of the escort unsheathe their swords is and stabbed themselves one by one forever hiding the location of genghis khan's tomb hi. I'm molly and i'm richard. Welcome to gun a podcast original every other monday. We examined mysterious disappearances in the theories. They spawned from the amber room to michael rockefeller. 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His tomb has never been definitively located. There are three major theories about where gingas kahn was laid to rest the first is that he was buried in his birthplace somewhere in the hindi province. The second theory will discuss is that the great khan was buried on the treacherous heights of the con- khaldoon a mountain in mongolia where he used to pray before major battles our third and and final theory is that gingas kahn is buried in an undisclosed location called mountain x. somewhere between his home in mongolia and his place as of death in northern china before we go too much further it's important to understand why genghis khan was so deeply respected by his people and why he would want his final resting place to be one of the best kept secrets in the world. Gingas kahn was born with the name talmadge in in eleven sixty two in delun bulldog in the henty province of mongolia his father. Yes gay was the chief chief of a confederation of nomadic tribes on the mongolian plateau. A semi mythic history written some time in the thirteenth century claims was that tim agenda was born clutching clot of blood in his fist a sign that the child would follow in his father's footsteps and become a great leader but fates good fortune would be short-lived when timur jin was nine years old. His father was killed by an enemy tribe temesan tried to claim his father's others position as chief of the clan but the nine year old easily lost the power struggle to a rival warlord. The former ruling family was then abandoned abandoned by their tribe and forced into exile for years temu jin and his family roamed the plains scouring villages and forests for food but even exile there was power to be one when damage in was ten. He killed his older half brother on a hunting expedition addition swiftly taking his place as the head of the family from their tim agenda started angling for real power he formed an alliance this with his childhood friend jessica who had since become the con of his own tribe for almost a decade these tribes worked together in harmony but a rift began to form between the two leaders at some point in the eleven eighties when he was in his twenties gianluca supported the hereditary aristocracy that had traditionally governed mongolian tribes bud damage in was more interested in meritocracy. He believed power should go to the most talented and successful regardless of their high or low birth. This rivalry escalated related into an all out war in eleven eighty six. When television was elected con of the mongols the next year jamaica sent thirty thousand soldiers to stamp out <unk> followers before he gained any more power in the end tenjin lost the battle and was forced to flee his tribe and people following this laws temesan vowed he would never again no the sting of defeat for the next decade he plotted added prepared and gathered a force of lower class warriors to face jamaica's army would bring his people blood and vengeance it. It was quickly clear that timoci was a brilliant strategist through careful alliances in-depth intelligence gathering and ruthless military force course he gradually united several of mongolia's warring tribes into an alliance under his own rule as one example of his military genius talmadge in trained his soldiers to ride horses and shoot bows at the same time for the nomadic mongols riding horses was second nature but this tactic required them to completely relearn how to ride while aiming a bow and how to effectively hit a target while moving but the effort paid off while most armies were divided between archers and cavalry temesan had created a new deadly force of soldiers who are able to do both both after fifteen years of plotting and preparing he was ready to face his old rival once again in the early twelve hundreds temesan marched his troops toward jamaica's headquarters he instructed each of his men to carry five torches so that as they approached their army would look like it was five times its actual size. This tactic succeeded in horrifying jamaica's forces their resolve was broken before the battle even began when the two sides finally matt they quickly realized that tensions army was less than half the size. They'd they'd expected but they were twice. As efficient tensions horseback archers decimated jamaica's forces tearing across the battlefield with unprecedented precedence speed after several bloody battles jessica's hopeless generals started to abandon him in twelve o six jessica's own men gave up and turned him over to ten according to some accounts temesan offered to make peace with jamaica and even killed the traders who handed him over over but jamaica refused he'd rather die than give up his power. He asked his old friend for a bloodless noble. Death contamination personally obliged with jamaica out of the way television was beyond any doubt the most powerful leader in mongolia by twelve six he had wrested control over all the major tribes in the area. The alliance of tribes became known as the mongolian golden empire the disparate groups that had been sparring for centuries or now organized into one unstoppable military machine when the council council of tribal chiefs met they bestowed damage in with a new title genghis kahn which translates to ultimate ruler gingas gingas kahn spent the next several decades conquering the neighbouring lands and consolidating his empire as one of the most successful military leaders of all time one of the ways in which he did this was by adopting the cultures of the various empires he conquered essentially when he asked a new tribe to join his empire empire they could maintain their religious freedoms and culture as long as they agreed to fight for him when he needed them with this strategy he successfully absorbed the people of the jin dynasty the har- he ta and the quarries man among others by twelve twenty seven genghis khan's empire consisted of approximately nine million one hundred thousand square miles stretching from the middle east to modern day south korea but at the age of sixty five gingas kahn still wanted more he turned his gaze south toward china in order to claim this land he would have to conquer a smaller empire called the tangled in what is now northern china in august of twelve twenty seven genghis khan prepared to take the ten. I'm good capital yinchuan. He had claimed many empires in open combat before but this battle would prove to be his last. There is some debate over exactly how he met his demise. Some experts believe he fell off his horse while hunting after the battle marco. Oh polo who traveled to mongol decades later asserted he died from an infected wound to his knee centuries later some stories reported afforded that he was stabbed by a tangled princess they'd taken prisoner during the invasion but the rumors and legends all end in the same place genghis khan john was pronounced dead on august eighteenth twelve twenty seven the most powerful conqueror in human history had finally fallen coming up. We'll look at genghis khan's unusual funeral. What if your doctor didn't know what was wrong with you. Medicine isn't always an exact science. Sometimes it's a guessing game when the world's most renowned experts can't explain what's wrong. We're left left with a medical mystery every week. 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We found an amazing partner in stitcher to bring you episodes at free six months after they are released again. This will only affect episodes older within six months. Nothing else will change. We'll still be releasing new gone episodes. Wherever you listen to podcasts for a free month trial go to stitcher premium premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code podcast that stitcher premium dot com slash podcast and use promo code owed podcast now back to the story genghis khan's last request was for his soldiers to to bury him in an unmarked grave and hide his body as well as possible. According to ancient mongolian tradition disturbing a burial site destroys destroys the soul. That's interred there as gingas kahn was responsible for tens of millions of deaths it safe to assume he had quite a few enemies that would want to dishonor his town to fulfil his final order. Two thousand loyal servants were recruited to prepare their fallen leader's body. According to the secret secret history of the mongols the oldest surviving literary work on genghis khan's life his body was shipped back to his birthplace in the hinchey province is close to the river to make sure is final resting place remained hidden genghis khan had left orders with his surviving captains to slaughter all two thousand servants involved in the funeral preparations to ensure none of them revealed the location of his burial once the servants were dead a smaller group of soldiers murdered the men who'd killed the servants. This process of bloody erasure continued until only eight hundred loyal men remained aimed. This small group became the official funeral escort took genghis khan's body to its final resting place and the funeral escort carried genghis khan's body for hundreds of miles to his birth city of delun bulldog in the henty province according according to the legend. If this escort met anyone on the road to delun bulldog they murdered them to even if the unfortunate witnesses were women women or children once the escort arrived at their undisclosed location they buried genghis khan about twenty feet underground the men then trampled the site with their horses to prevent anyone from identifying it as a burial site then to really make sure the job was done they planted trees <unk> over the plot and dug deep trenches to divert a nearby river to flow over the tomb once their work was complete all eight hundred members of genghis cons escort committed ritualistic suicide out of respect for the mighty con their loyalty to their leader didn't end until they'd followed him into the grave. That's where the legend ends. Genghis khan's final act was just as ruthless strategic and effective as all his military. Mary campaigns for centuries. He's succeeded in keeping his team's location under wraps. This story is the foundation for our first theory. Theory genghis khan was in fact buried somewhere in the hinchey province as the secret history of the mongols claims the difficulty is that this territory worries over thirty thousand square miles and genghis khan could have been buried anywhere within it however there are a few particular locations that stand out it is possible burial sites. The first is delun bulldog where genghis khan was born in the centuries since the conqueror's death his his birthplace in delun bulldog has become a sacred place in mongolian folklore even today. It's a popular pilgrimage destination for locals and foreigners alike since genghis khan was born in this area and spent much of his early life there it makes sense why he might have chosen this place for his tomb but the geographical features of delun bulldog offer even more support for the theory there are a few rivers around this area including shooting the oh no here thin and tool if genghis khan's funeral escort didn't bury him under a river as the story says this location nation would be a good contender despite widespread curiosity there were no major searches for genghis khan's grave in delun bulldog for centuries. This is because to this day most mongolians see the search for the tomb as disrespectful genghis khan specifically tried to hide himself from the world and hunting for him blatantly disregards the dead man's last wish but in nineteen ninety-one a team of scientists led by dr thirty seven doors believe the historical significance of finding the tomb outweighed any morality issues or cultural backlash. They began a project called three rivers excavating around the rivers near delun bulldog in search of historical remains. The team scoured the rivers for two years but in nineteen ninety three the team gave up and seven doors reported that he found nothing to indicate genghis kahn had been buried there. If the gravesite was under a river it stands to reason that any remains or artifacts could have been washed away over the centuries after seven doors failed investigation. Most historians believe the site was not the location of the tomb or if it was we'll never refined the evidence to confirm it but this was just one of many possible locations within the hindi province another possibility is that genghis khan was buried in his personal palace in the year twelve hundred gingas kahn built a palace in the middle of the hindi province to serve as a home base for his military very operations according to ancient mongolian text court officials sometimes commuted from this palace to genghis khan's mysterious tomb to to conduct rituals for the dead. This is led enthusiasts like professor shimpei cotto of tokyo. Kaku gawking university to believe kings constume is located within walking distance of this palace. Unfortunately the palace itself is also missing. Its existence instance is mentioned in historical texts but there are no details on its location for this clue to be of any use in finding the tomb professor cotto. I had had defined the palace una ctober six two thousand four a team of researchers led by cotto discovered ruins in a grassy stab in the hindi province one hundred and fifty miles east of the mongolian capital of ulan bator cotto described the small all structure as a simple shape of a square tent attached to wooden columns. The structure itself was little more than a few stonewalls but but is they look deeper into the remains. They discovered more inside the site where porcelain plates that were carbon dated to approximately the year twelve hundred the same time genghis khan built his palace according to katu the scenery around the side also matched a description of the palace from mhm historical accounts this launched a search of the nearby area for any trace of genghis khan's body teams hunted the hills on foot and even sent drones overhead to look for any strange formations in the terrain but after months of looking nobody or tomb was found the discovery three of the palace itself was a groundbreaking step in archaeologists quest to learn more about genghis khan it proved that parts of the great empire have stood the test of time and if the lost palace could be an earth it's possible his grave could to inspired by the discovery treasure sure hunters and historians alike turn their attention toward other regions where the two might be located. We know from historical accounts that genghis khan's funeral israel was held in the hindi province but that doesn't necessarily mean his body is resting there nearly four centuries after august khan's death rumors were circulating that the story of his burial as told in the secret history weren't entirely accurate in in sixteen. Oh four a historical chronicle claimed that only gingas kahn shirt tant and boots were buried on the day of his burial the actual. Oh body was laid somewhere else entirely. Unfortunately the chronicle didn't mention where genghis khan was buried or why only his clothes made the trip it also didn't explain where this information came from this chronicle was built from a collection of oral traditions some of which could be inaccurate exaggerated saturated or downright fictional but this book is not the only publication to claim gengis khan wasn't present at his own burial in sixteen sixty a to another mongolian chronicle claimed that genghis khan's coffin arrived empty to the burial site once again this account that was written from oral traditions and we have no way of knowing what's true and what's false but it is strange to different sources suggested genghis khan's the body was missing from his grave on one hand these theories at a new layer of difficulty to the task of finding the conquerors grave on the other. They might actually point us toward new clues. If ganga's khan really was buried in the hindi province as the legend says we know that every every single eyewitness was dead before they could spread the news but if he wasn't there could be more witnesses ones who weren't so the dedication to protecting the great khan secrets apart from his hometown in the hinted province. There are other locations that might have held sentimental value for the leader for many historians and enthusiasts believe these other places could be a better bet for finding the tomb. This brings us to our second theory. Sorry gingas kahn wasn't buried in a twenty foot deep grave under a river in the anti province instead. He was laid to rest somewhere in the great. Mountainous region of con- khaldoon located about one hundred miles to the northeast of alan petar. The burkan khaldoon is a hazardous asser dismays of peaks and cliffs according to ancient historical records genghis khan would prey on the cliff of this mountain before major battles. It was the place that was dear to him and also a place where few would dare to venture to try and find a grave scholars believe this location is a strong possibility sibility for the burial site because of something genghis khan said while he was alive before his invasion of the tangled empire in twelve twenty seven genghis khan said he wanted to return to the burkan khaldoon mountain after he conquered china now saying that you want to return to a mountain alive and implying implying you want to be buried. There are two entirely different things but this was enough evidence to inspire a number of search expeditions up the treacherous mountain despite the more theoretical nature of this theory over the years there is some surprisingly strong evidence to support it in two thousand six historian orien- maury kravitz excavations roughly sixty miles east of the con- khaldoon that was his close as he could get to the mountain without interference interference from the mongolian government because it's considered a sacred site. The entire mountain is part of the content strictly protected area which which prohibits access to anyone not in the royal family. This is highly suspicious to theorists kravitz. They believed that the mongolian government armant is trying to keep the body of genghis khan safe from scientists and tomb raiders as a way to honor the final wishes of their historical ruler and the nioblias. Ah people of mongolia do tend to view these grave searches as disrespectful. Many an excavation has been shut down due to local backlash in the previous his few decades however the mongolian government insists they know nothing about genghis khan's tomb and that this site would be protected as sacred land regardless of whether he was buried there or not while this restriction severely limited the potential for success. It didn't stop kravitz from trying thing as expected. His investigation didn't turn up any hints of a tomb but he did encounter several disturbing omens on the foothills of the burkan khaldoon. I there were the poisonous vipers that appeared out of nowhere in the middle of the excavation while no one got hurt. The sudden appearance of deadly snakes did a little boost morale of the crew next a number of their supply cars began to careen off hills unexpectedly as if they were. We're being pushed by some invisible force. The setbacks were so severe that kravitz was forced to suspend his search for years. Some theorists believe these events were triggered by curse meant to prevent anyone from disturbing genghis khan's tomb but the logic is a little thin here. Remember kravitz was digging miles away from the mountain where genghis khan was believed to be buried. It's also important to note that. All of this evidence of bad domains comes from kravitz and kravitz alone. It's possible that he exaggerated his reports out of superstition or as a way to explain his expedition's sion's failure kravitz surge did ultimately come up empty but several years later a new investigator took up the mantle in two thousand eight technologist and adventurer named albert you min lin decided to approach the mystery of genghis khan's final resting acting place from a different angle aware that a single excavator could spend years digging around in the ground in vain lynn came up with a tactic to to cover more ground without ever personally setting foot on the dig site he put out a call on the national geographic website and recruited thousands of of what he called citizens scientists to join the hunt for genghis khan by two thousand ten lynn had divided the six thousand square mile mild territory into eighty four thousand tiles of satellite imagery each of these tiles were about two meters across and could be viewed by anyone with access to the internet all interested parties were instructed to tag archaeological enigmas essentially anything that looked a natural girl in the first few months of the program over ten thousand people tried outlines system generating more than two million tags lynn downloaded this data every day with satellite communication links and identified one hundred possible locations for the tomb across the burkan khaldoon from from there lynn analyzed these areas personally and narrow those one hundred potential locations down to fifty five then he he set out to explore those locations on foot. If genghis khan was buried near the burkan khaldoon lynn was closer than anyone had ever been and to finding him up next we'll discuss the outcome of linz great discovery now back to the story lynn had to deal with the same government restrictions as kravitz did but in the locations that he did have access to he used magnetometers hamas to form underground maps of the terrain magnetometers are instruments that measure magnetism under the earth's surface and are often used to search for buried artifacts or other anomalies deep underground but as lynn was looking for the tomb he liked kravitz was stopped by unexpected forces assist. It began with a massive storm. The storm was so severe it caused nearby trees to uproot themselves and fall around the camp. His team was forced to take shelter to protect themselves. The storm stopped after a few hours but the team's troubles were far from over as they resumed zoomed their search. They were accosted by seven shamans dressed in traditional mongolian garb complete with masks to this day. Lynn has no the idea where these shamans came from or who sent them to their camp. This shamans asked lynn what he was searching for. He told them he was looking for gingas. Kahn in response the shamans curtly asked him and his scientists to leave out of respect and possibly out of fear of government interference leeann abandoned his expedition. Since this fateful encounter there have been a few other attempts to glimpse into the content hinted strictly protected area in two thousand fifteen french specialists pierre on regis car and rafael four found a way to investigate the area without drawing the attention of the authorities by using drones without asking permission from the mongolian government is she scar and old four flu camera drones deep into the con- hint area they ran to aerial investigations one and two thousand thousand fifteen and one in two thousand sixteen and during their searches they discovered a large mound at the top of the recon khaldoon mountain altun. It looked rather suspiciously like a burial mound. This mound is ostensibly a religious site where locals travel to pray and pay al-marj though we don't know to whom or what is she scar and os four believed the holy shrine is actually the lost tomb of genghis khan on that said there is some evidence to disprove this theory first and foremost the entire purpose of genghis. Khan's elaborate burial was to keep the site absolutely undetectable in the story told in the secret history his funeral escort trampled his tomb flat and even diverted averted a river to run over the location if he went through all this effort to create an hide a fake grave site. It doesn't make sense that he'd leave an obvious obvious burial mound his actual grave more evidence against this theory was found during a new investigation by albert lynn following the drone flights lynn decided to risk another encounter with a mysterious shamans and resume his search without securing permission russian lynn's snuck a team into the content strictly protected area in two thousand sixteen once inside they scan the ground near the mysterious area's burial mound with the test probe. Lynn used ground penetrating radar to detect the different materials under the earth but he found nothing nothing that would indicate human remains. It seems the mound is simply that amount of earth nothing unusual was buried underneath for for the time being. This is the closest we'll get to an excavation of the mound. The mongolian government is still keeping a close eye on whatever's atop the con- on khaldoon mountain and it doesn't look like they will be loosening their grip on the area anytime soon in fact after these two illegal drone flights lights and leans unapproved test probe. They're more careful than ever with their sacred land. No legal action has been taken against g. scar and and four mostly because they haven't officially released the footage they collected but it's safe to say the mongolian government isn't too happy with their discovery unless mongolia decides to cooperate with archaeologists. We may never know whether genghis khan's body is hidden in the con- khaldoon but there is one other location that might hold some answers. Our final theory is that gingas kahn was buried on a mysterious mountain called called mountain x. This theory claims that the man on the burkan khaldoon might be the official tomb of genghis khan but his remains actually reside elsewhere. We should begin by saying this theory is by far the most conspiratorial so we encourage you to take it with the grain of salt as you may recall to seventeenth century mongolian record books reported that genghis khan's body was not present at the moment of his burial but they don't offer any details and where his remains might actually be allen nichols the president of a new york-based scientific society he called the explorer's club has a simple answer he believes the body is hidden near the battlefield where genghis khan died in northern china according into nichols after gingas kahn died he would have been taken back to mongolia as it's unlikely his army would have been willing to bury the great mongolian alien leader in china but he doesn't believe the body made it all the way back to his home province as the legend suggests nichols believes the entire burial oriole ritual and the decoy tomb on top of the burkan khaldoon was a hoax designed to protect people from dangerous curse. He says according to mongolian shamanism. You can't touch a corpse like genghis khan's without dangerous consequences to yourself physical mental and end emotional. This quote is a little misleading mongolians. Believe disturbing a corpse can affect the deceased person's soul in the afterlife but it's not widely held it can affect anything in the land of the living nevertheless given genghis khan's infamous use of deception as a military tactic it stands to reason that he'd use elaborate methods to protect his grave from desecration nichols has focused on tracing the route the funeral procession traveled on and he believes the real tomb lies along that path on a mountain he simply calls mountain necks nichols claims he's been on three expeditions to this mountain ex he explored the site with magnetometers and ground penetrating radar narrowing down possible locations based on distance terrain and shamanistic beliefs regarding funeral customs but he's yet to bring forward any useful evidence as for for the location of this mysterious mountain x. nichols says he's founded but he offers no evidence to support that claim he says i'm very careful about not telling people where it is. I have agreements with all the technical people i am a lawyer as you now and i've already eddie thought how to make sure that nobody let's it out hypothetically. This theory could provide an answer to the mystery if we ever get to see the evidence but as of of yet it's nothing more than theory now in his late. Eighties nickel shows no sign of stopping his hunt for the missing tomb perhaps his team. We'll find the evidence. They're looking for at some point in the future but as it stands today we can't rightfully say that mountain x. is genghis gascons final resting place. All three of these theories have their logical strengths but they also fall short on evidence through our research. We believe the most likely location for genghis. Khan's tomb is in the mountains of the burkan khaldoon. The location held a sentimental value you too gingas kahn throughout his life and it was difficult to traverse making it unlikely that anyone would disturb his grave furthermore the fact fact that the mongolian government is so concerned with protecting the location is highly suspect. The level of security around the mountain definitely makes it seem like there's something up there. They don't want international archaeologists to see given the general attitude in mongolia that the dead should be left to rest in peace ace especially when genghis khan is concerned it does stand to reason that the burkan khaldoon contain the great conqueror's tomb they try and keep it away from prying eyes. This is largely why the mystery remains unsolved genghis khan's people were loyal to his wishes to the very end out of respect for the dead including the thousands who died to protect the secret of genghis khan's resting place. It might be best to let this missing zing tomb remain hidden. Thanks again for tuning into gone. We'll be back in two weeks with another episode. You can find all previous episodes of gone as well as all of podcast other shows on spotify and anywhere else you listen to podcasts several of you have asked how to help us. If have you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave a five star review and don't forget to follow us on facebook and instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast cast network. We'll see you next time. Just because it's gone doesn't mean it can't be found gone was created by max. Cutler is a production of cutler media and as part of the podcast network it is produced by max and ron cutler sound design by dick schroeder with production assistance by ron sapiro paul molitor maggie admire and carly madden gone is written by michael allen herman and stars molly brandenburg and richard rosner. Don't forget to check out our new show. 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As Employment Rises, African American Transplants Ride Jobs Wave To The South

NPR's Business Story of the Day

05:32 min | 1 year ago

As Employment Rises, African American Transplants Ride Jobs Wave To The South

"Support for this NPR podcast. And the following message come from the UPS store, offering services from shredding to printing to mailbox seeing, and instead of closing this Memorial Day weekend may twenty fourth and twenty fifth. The UPS store is doing another thing altogether. Opening the UPS store every anger for small business, and of course shipping. The jobless rate in the United States is at a near fifty year low. So all this month NPR's looking at what that means for workers, and communities, many African Americans are seeing an opportunity for better jobs and cheap housing in the south and Charlotte, North Carolina is one of their destinations NPR's Danielle Czeslaw reports, Britney Smith shows me around the house. She and her husband bought on the outskirts of Charlotte. Here. Washer dryer your standard. It's beige house with brick facade. There's a front porch and a two car garage and a green front lawn. She holds her fifteen month old daughter, Erla Smith grew up, mostly in Detroit, six years ago. She struggled to find a fulltime job in healthcare. They're her then boyfriend Sam was a career counselor at a college campus, that was closing. We're looking at what cities are growing for young professionals in Charlotte was always in the top five, it helped that Smith's father had moved back to North Carolina about two hours away from Charlotte. So they made the move. We did have the idea. If you know, we may go down here for a year. We don't like it, then we can always go home, this Smith's are part of an influx of African Americans to Mecklenburg county North Carolina. The African American population here has ballooned by sixty four percent since two thousand some people come from neighboring counties in north and South Carolina. But thousands are coming from Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey in Illinois, and other cities in the south are seeing similar growth, including Houston, Atlanta Tallahassee and Columbia South Carolina Smith. Thirty two is about to begin a new job at a health insurance company doing community outreach. He starts Monday actually so very quick turnaround. But yet starts Monday her previous job was similar it was a dream job. She says, but the new position pays better and has more responsibility. Sam now her husband found work in Charlotte to as a university career, counselor opportunities for black folks, the south, and that have never been in the same sentence. Demographer Jessica baron endure North Carolina says throughout much of the twentieth century millions of African Americans left the south to escape racial discrimination, and lack of opportunity that Hobie got the Harlem renaissance and Chicago blues. These are all a part of the story of the great. Gration as manufacturing dried up in the rust belt services tech and finance expanded in southern cities, African Americans started coming back, Barron says migrants tend to have higher education and more connections than African Americans who remained in places like North Carolina for generations. The job market for African Americans over the past two years is the best ever unemployment is at six point seven percent. Although it's double the rate for whites Charlotte, in particular, is booming the city has seen eight straight years of job growth, but as the tide has risen here, it has not lifted all boats equally. Charlotte historian Tom Hinchey, it says decades of segregation and redlining have given African Americans in Charlotte, fewer opportunities to buy homes and build wealth. Affordable housing is especially an issue for African Americans. It requires special effort to overcome it because special effort created and in Charlotte. Many. African Americans work in industries, like hospitality and retail where wages have stagnated that mirrors the national trend where wages have grown more slowly for African Americans than any other group. I meet, Nicole muse. Dennis at one of two jobs. She works as bar manager at night and a special education teacher during the day. I'm what I call over employed. I have two jobs and I'm still trying to make us. Dennis says raising two daughters as a single mom on a teacher salary, has forced her into a sixty five hour workweek a couple days later. I join her morning routine flushing, it's still dark as she gets ready to drive her daughter to school hard, part is just make sure I get up actually I get up in the morning. That's the hard part. Sure, I can actually drive there. Mus- Dennis owned her townhouse in a middle class neighborhood called university city and the value of her home has increased in recent years, but our Texas have gone up, too. As mused Dennis strains to make a living. Brittany smith. The Detroit transplant is not as overextended she and her husband, both work jobs. They love and they have just one child, she feeds her daughter era, a pouch of organic, sweet potatoes here. I am a transplant that come has come down here enough taken advantage of all these opportunities. Now, some of it may be too. I have an education insane from a husband, but also it made me actually my husband and I had to look at ways that we can help bridge, the gap the structural issues that keep many African Americans unemployed or underpaid are difficult to fix but a strong economy opens more paths to success. And that's the experience of the Smith, family and millions of other African Americans who are starting new lives in the south Daniela, Chaz low NPR news Charlotte.

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Ralph Vaughan Williams 2: Musical Fantasies

Classics for Kids

05:59 min | 10 months ago

Ralph Vaughan Williams 2: Musical Fantasies

"Welcome to classics for kids. I'm Naomi Lewin. You probably know that a fantasy is something you make up out of your imagination. The music a fantasies started out the same way a piece that Musicians Shinzo made up as they went along these days. improvising composing as you. Play is mostly done by jazz musicians. But in the renaissance. When when the name fantasy or Fantasia I got attached to compositions classical performers were encouraged to go with whatever inspiration came to them? It was almost almost considered cheating to write down a fantasy A hand Sebastian bath originally only called that piece of Fanta Z German for fantasy but then he changed the title to invention same thing in England. They often shortened fantasy fantasy too fancy in Spain or Italy they called it a Fanta Zia and in French Pontes E. Sometimes a fantasy became the beginning of a whole sweet in the nineteenth century. Instead of making up the melodies themselves composers posers started to build fantasies out of pre existing tunes. Max Bruch used folk tunes. He picked up on a trip to the British isles in his Scottish fantasy in. Uh Pablo this. Sarah Saute a Spanish violinist based a fantasy for his instrument on themes from George visas opera. Carmen which is set in Spain in another Spanish fantasy by Joaquin Rodrigo uses old dance melodies in a new arrangement for guitar and Orchestra the fantasy up at one. Hindi Hinchey lingerie or fantasia for gentlemen French composer Marceta grown Shawnee took a bit of melody from a Haydn Symphony and wrote a fantasy for harp the granddaddy of all fantasies is one by Beethoven who love up to break musical rules. It used to be that fantasies were just for instruments. Beethoven started out this fantasy with the piano But he wound up having an orchestra and chorus join in in her in spite of the fact that the pianist does most of the work. That's known as Beethoven's Choral Roll Fantasy Rape Wban. Williams named several of his pieces fantasy or Fantasia but even though the fantasia on green sleeves opens opens with a fanciful. Little flew click. The piece actually follows a musical form. A BE A. There's a melody the a tune. A second melody tabled be and then the first eight melody again. The a tune is the folk song. Green Sleeves uh the B section in the middle is based on another folk song. Lovely Lovely Joan. After that the Kyun returns more green sleeves ray-ban Williams lived during a great period for English composers next week music by I some of his teachers and friends. I may owe me Lewin. I write classics for kids and produce it with Tim. Lander at W. G. U. C. Cincinnati. Please join me again for more classics for kids.

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