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The Brink Books a Room at the Hilton

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The Brink Books a Room at the Hilton

"I'm Mark Murphy. I'm chef restaurant tour and host of new podcast from iheartradio called food. Three sixty. Join me as we take a three hundred sixty degree look at history science culture and more all through the lens of food. The most important thing for me is not my writing ego. It's getting people to cook. Delicious food be sure to subscribe to food three sixty on the iheartradio app, apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Conrad Hilton founder of the Hilton hotel group, didn't necessarily want to be a hotel year when he grew up. But then despite his friends reservations, a CD little hotel planted, the seed of an idea that turned him into one of the frontiers men of the hotel industry, but it wasn't always comfy bed to Lyon. And when the great depression, hit it very nearly close the doors on Hilton. Let's check out how quick thinking outstanding work ethic and care for his fellow man helped Conrad Hilton check into massive success. This is Hilton on the brink. Guys. I'm Jonathan Strickland Mariel Casten. And today, we're talking about a subject suggested to us by one of our listeners. DJ filton. Yeah. Thanks DJ. And this is a big subject, obviously the Hilton hotels. That's an enormous company but we're specifically focusing on the founder Conrad Hilton, and sort of his journey into establishing the Hilton company, which that journey is filled with, I think one of the biggest break moments of Hilton's entire history. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, you're talking about launching a business shortly before the great depression, and the remote people times when the company could have just gone belly up. But didn't and we're going to cover all of that. There's also we want to mention going to be a part of the story that has really disturbing and we will give a trigger warning when that gets. Closer. It is a very dark Mark on the entire story. But we feel it's important to include for all objectively a lot. A lot of the history written on Conrad Hilton is very, very positive. But there, there are some negative things and it's important to look at it all. Yeah. And yeah, we'll talk more about it when we get there. But you might we'll, we'll let you know, do you mind west skip ahead. If you if you get very sensitive about difficult topics. Yes. And one less thing to mention it was recently Hilton's one hundred anniversary. We did a whole bunch of research on this episode, but a lot of the dates in ages, and little minute show of this history. And of, of this story varied from different sources, you might see that something supposedly happened in nineteen Forty-six six in one source, and another source says it was nineteen forty seven so just a stab the fact that the dates were going to be using are largely, you know, each dates because we just we. Can't be sure it's it's hard when you're looking at different sources, all of which appear to be, you know, reliable ones, but they're giving different information. Exactly. But we do know one date for certain, and that is the date when Conrad Hilton was born. Yes, it was Christmas day. Eighteen eighty seven. Yup. In the little town of Bethlehem. No, no. But a different town. It was a town of San Antonio, but not sending Tonio, Texas. No San Antonio New Mexico. He was born to Mary. Ann, Augusta's, Healton or gust to his friends S two friends. I'm not Augusta's friend remind never knew the man, but he was also one of eight children. Yep. So big family and gusts Hilton was quite the businessman himself. Right. He was he, he did a lot of things. He did trading financing. He ran a general store. He finance things like mines you mean like the hi ho. Hi, ho. It's off to work. We go type of mine. Yeah. Not like minesweeper and Peter lever. So, yeah, so then this work ethic was passed along to Conrad as well. Conrad Hilton even as a kid at a, a real get up and go kind of attitude, right? Did he did a lot of things before he became a hotel owner and manager? And he started really, really young, one of the things that he's known for across most of the research that I saw that he was a big dreamer, and he worked hard and he was raised Catholic. A devout Catholic has mother was a Catholic. And so that was an important part of his life throughout the entirety of his life. And there are still some glimmers of that in foundations and in his business today, so some references to Catholicism or at least some nods to, to Catholic philosophy. Yes. So we said he started working very. A young reports. I saw said, I think as early as five he might have been growing and selling vegetables. But he was also helping in his dad's general store. That was the biggest thing. And then his dad may be wanted him to be general, as he sent him off to military school at age eleven. I see what you did there. Well he did. Okay. Yeah. It wasn't wasn't. You know, wasn't the valedictorian or anything. No. But he was really good at math. And apparently he was encouraged to study engineering but he didn't find that take yearly compelling. But in one thousand nine hundred his father hit it really big. He sold one of his minds and made a lot of money, and they all moved out to California, the entire family and Conrad with his good work ethic went ahead and got himself a newspaper out. He had kept on working and the family lived out there for a few years. But then there was a big recession in one thousand nine hundred seven and the Hilton family was hit the ticket early hard Gus Hilton's entire. Small fortune that he had made the allowed them to move out to California was completely wiped out, and they had to relocate back to New Mexico. Yes. What they did there. She been like a premonition for Conrad Hilton's career path. But it wasn't. No. They took their home, and they turned it into a boarding house. And Conrad Hilton was put to work as well. He wasn't just living there. He was the bellhop. Yes. And their houses, perfectly suited to it, according to reports because as each child in their large family was born Gus would add another room to the house. So there were lots of room. There are lots of room. Yeah. So that's why they could turn into a boarding house. So then when he was really right at twenty one, I think, or is one of those dates twenty five I think most say, twenty one but somewhere around there Conrad Hilton what unquote takes over the general store from his father. But there's a reason we put quotes around that. Yeah, he was a micromanager. He couldn't let go. Yeah. He was. No, elsa. No. Also, let it go. Oh no Cal fan. Oh my goodness. Anyhow Conrad learned some more work ethic out of this. So even though it wasn't the intentional work ethic has dad tried to instill in him. It was additional work ethic. He he learned. He had to keep cooling calm and not make a big deal out of things says dad would Rigo would freak out and you know, it's something he could handle, he also really learned the value of delegation. Threw this. He's like, if I give somebody a task, I'm going to trust them to do it. I'm going to put people in the positions. I need that. I trust so that when I give them a task I trust them, right? Because this is ridiculous. I don't have to sit there and hold their hand or stand over their shoulder. This also served him, well, because he would serve a stint as a politician. You was in New Mexico's for state legislature in nineteen twelve. So that was another valuable experience for him. He also got a lot of experience doing public speaking, which would be another thing that he would rely heavily. On earlier on his career. There are some reports saying that he was the youngest son reports said he served two terms one term. It's still pretty impressive. New Mexico was pretty note that point. Then he became a banker which was sort of what he had been hoping to do or memorial, but he ended up taking hit the entirety of all of his savings, and then that was just under three thousand dollars or so. But that was just a little bit of what he needed he then borrowed or raised about thirty thousand dollars in capital. In order to found his Bank and everything went swimmingly and he became one of the biggest financiers all of American history. Right. And that's why he says successful. No, it turns out that after he did this the border directors. And the shareholders both did some pretty, like mean stuff or support of directors elected, somebody else president of his Bank. And then the shareholders tried to oust him as well which they think might have been the doings of the old Bank owner. But his dad who had initially invested in the Bank helped rectify this, and he became I think vice president. Yeah, I guess the Hilton was already Conrad that is was already prepared for this having gone through the experience of having his dad micromanage. Now. He has a board of directors that is telling him what he has to do when he thought he was going to be the one calling the shots. So then he ends up selling the general store. The family ends up selling the generals really and ink and the Bank is well. And then Conrad ends up volunteering because that was the outbreak of World War One, so he volunteers to serve during World War One. Yes. And I read that this is where he got his love for travel because he traveled around the state seeing some places he had never seen before. And then he ended up going over to France and travelled around France for the war, now, something unfortunate happens during this time in his right before he left army. Right before he was going to come back home. His dad died, I think in a car crash, and it kind of left him spinning his wheels. So he wasn't sure. What he was going to do. He was thinking maybe banking, his, his mom said, you need to find your own frontier. And so he moved to Texas and looked by Bank, you only had five thousand dollars to do it. Yeah. Which is not enough money to buy a Bank. And in the meantime, he was a he was his own little side hustle, going on because I don't think he could ever not work there. He was trading in mohair that was his side hustle. I don't know if it was mohair yarn or fabric or all of the above or. Yeah. Yeah. But he was looking at areas of Texas, where the oil business was taking off because this was right in that era, where there's the oil rush in Texas. And so he found a Bank in an area where there were doing some booming business in oil, and he wanted to buy it, but he was having some trouble. And so he was staying in a charming place. So the, the charming hotel in town called the Mobely hotel in Cisco Texas. And he made a big decision about that hotel, not just to rent a room, but to buy it. Yeah. And the reason he chose to buy this dingy. Little nasty hotel. The reports I read it sounded like. Sound like a rough and tumble kind of place yet. Well, they were turning their rooms over every hour. So three times a day, they would check people out and check new people, and that's not enough time to late clean change linens. I don't know how big changing linens was because this was a nine hundred nineteen, but because this was a big oil boom, you know, you had all these people who were working in the oil fields, and so they would rent a room for eight hours, so they could get some rest and then go right back to work. And so that's really what was going on here in this rapid turn around the. Yeah, it was this was this was a hotel that was making some serious cash. However, just because it was profitable didn't mean that the owner wanted to hold onto it because the owner had aspirations of becoming an oilman and self to make a fortune in oil. Yeah. So Conrad looked over the books to make sure it was a good decision and he bought it for forty thousand dollars. He got half of the money from his friends and half from the Bank. I will say that his friends who invested in this. We're not certain. They were not super off done Dever. They thought that buying this hotel was not great decision, but he immediately gets to work. You starts to overhaul the hotel. He decides that he wants to maximize efficiency make the best use out of the space that was available. He really started to try and turn it into an even more successful business. Yes. So Hilton has this really big thing all the way through his entire career and all through all of his hotels, about not wasting space. And so he when he took over the mobile, he got rid of the dining hall. He cut his his reception desk in half even turned a potted plant into a tiny novelty store. All he he throughout the plant. I don't like mood rings on the plant leaves, but the one thousand nine hundred equivalent, but every space that wasn't something. That people could sleep in or use or place that could make money was aware of space, he called this finding these little areas to optimize space digging for gold. Any also wanted to make sure he provided incentives for his workers to do an exemplary job, and he was not keen to keep around people who didn't share his philosophy if there were people that were involved in the business that didn't think like he, did he would rather buy them out than continue to try and work with them. Because again, he wanted to work with people, he trusted to do the job the way he wanted to do it, if he had a he had a partner who didn't really like people. So I would say not super suited for the hospitality industry. India like a Fawlty towers kind of thing. Yeah. So he bought him out, well above price, so that he could put somebody in who he knew had the heart for the business. Yeah. He wasn't. He wasn't about cutting people out of the business more. So he. He was he was trying to make sure he was always doing right by everyone. But keeping the business Burston foremost in his focus. It's a really important balance. An initial be noted that taking the time to build up, your employees is at a hotel in taking the time to incentivize them in that day and age was not was not comment. No. This was definitely an unusual practice. And he also wanted to focus very much on customer needs. So he wanted to make sure let's pay attention to what our clientele wants and provide that to them in our products, and our services, and this was very successful shortly after he leased and renovated to other hotels. And he took his army coworker says buddies, the people, he knew from his time in the service, and he put them in charge of each of those. Because he, he again, he trusted them. He was entrusted them with his life. So he certainly trusted them with this tells. Yeah, he was doing so well that when the next recession hit in nineteen twenty one it didn't bother him. He was still making a profit. Yeah. They were they were still able to keep the hotels running white. Well, he also had a very strong belief that as he was adding hotels, because this would happen throughout the history of, of his work as well. That hotels shouldn't be cookie cutter they should not all be carbon copies of a single hotel plan that every hotel should have its own Beal and our own identity, and that would carry through even as Hilton would grow into a massive company. Well, it makes sense, right? Because at this time he's not building his own hotels. He's buying others and flipping. Yeah. So it makes sense that you that's so much extra work to try. To make them all match. Yeah, yeah, it was it was better to go ahead. And make sure that each hotel kind of had its own personality that the fitted in with the, the region, and the needs of the people who were visiting. Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure it had to do with consumer experience as well. But it also just makes practical. Yeah. He also partnered with a guy named D E Soederman and everything went smoothly, and they can say it was the first major hiccup because I think that would be his dad dying kind of the next big stumbling block for him. So he hired this guy. This guy was a keen businessman, but he was also an alcoholic. Yeah. And he couldn't take responsibility for the results of his alcoholism. He started blaming people for stealing money. He started blaming people for his wife's unhappiness to the fact that one of the people he was blaming for these occurrences was Conrad's friend, and he killed him. Soederman killed, Conrad's friend. Yeah. And then and have put to jail with into jail. So you, you might ask yourself. Well, what does Conrad Hilton do? Here's, here's a business partner, who had not only been dealing with alcoholism, but also had murdered somebody, essentially our God to an altercation which ended with the other person's death. Those to jail for it. Conrad Hilton does something truly remarkable something that I don't think very many people would have done it. No. Especially considering the fact that Soederman threatened to come back for Conrad. Again, to Conrad provided solder, men with enough money to move away and start his life somewhere else. Once he was really imprisoned. Yeah. Basically saying. Here you go away. But it's all good. Yeah. My no harm. No foul. No not. Quite quite that. But yeah, it was it was again, considering all the different outcomes that could have followed. It was pretty remarkable. Now we haven't reached the true brink yet, but we're going to get there. And before we dive into some of the dark, tales, we thought we'd take a quick break. This week on ephemeral. I actually found a Tate box that said head cheese in all capital, letters on it, and there's no way. I'm not picking that up. Also, it's on a tape box of a company that I know did not make page after the nineteen fifties. So this is this is an ancient tape and since head cheese on it, and I'm intrigued, what is this going to be? Three. Listen to a federal now on apple podcasts, the iheartradio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts, and learn more at a federal dot show. All right. So we're now in the nineteen twenties, what happens now. Well, he decides that and said flipping hotels, he wants to start building them. All right. So now he's no longer. Nez bull, not only looking at renovating older hotels. He's looking at creating his own structures. Exactly. He would throughout his career continued to acquire pre existing hotels and turning them into his own. But now, he, he wanted hotels that were truly and genuinely his. So he goes to Dallas Texas for this first one, and it is an enormous endeavor to build the hotel. They estimate would cost a million dollars a lot of money today, but a whole lot of money in nineteen twenty. So he had to take his math brain and do a lot of nothing to make all of this work as he math harder than he had ever math before. Because if you look back here he was making money. Yeah. I don't think he was making a million dollars with money. No. So the first thing he did was instead of buying the land to build his hotel. He leased it from the owner of the land, but he leased it for ninety years. Yeah. So then after leasing it, he then secures, two hundred thousand dollars from from various backers investors to help with this and he still needed to raise a whole lot more. So he goes to the Bank, and he gets a loan of five hundred thousand dollars and he does that by leveraging the land, and the future hotel. He's essentially putting up for collateral building the hasn't been built yet. And even then, the Bank would just out now, give him five hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, they paid him as each floor got finished you on the hotel, and they had a contingency, if he ran out of money to build this hotel, while the he was in the middle of the loan. They would they would end the loan. Right. So as soon as he ran out of money, he was out of money is going to be a game over in the Bank would get the everything it seems like they were kind of sort of matching him. He also would end up selling his first hotel Mobely in the Mobely goes by, and that would allow them to have another one hundred thousand dollars for this and. Then he really tries to push for this. And, you know, I made the joke a couple of times already about, and then everything went well, right? And then we find out it didn't. Let's I'm just gonna skip the joke. Things did not go as planned now. So it took longer to build this hotel than he expected and typical for any construction job if anyone's ever, the construction, you know, that it's going to take longer than what the quotas and also horror of horrors, four floors before the hotel was finished. He ran out of money again. Yeah. So now you're facing the possibility of the Bank, taking everything, so he starts to borrow more money from whom ever will lend it to him, including his own employees who were handing over small amounts, but they represented life savings or some of these people and it wouldn't be the last time that this would happen either, and we'll get there but. As we said Hilton was really big about building up his employees's. So when times got hard, his employees stuck with him, especially since a lot of them were friends. Yeah. It was so dire though, that he got the guy he was leasing the land from to buy the hotel and finish it. So now the guy that he was leaving his land from owns a hotel and paying to finish it. And then so then Hilton leases, though, tell from the landowner. Yes. So he had set out to build his own hotel, and he ends up leasing hotel anyway. But at least he built it, it was his. Yeah. Kinda around this time he got married had two kids eventually have three kids with his this wife. He had priest sons this was his first wife, which is a bit of. Spoiler. Yes. And you know, things seemed to pay off, he built six more hotels in two years. And then the following year in nineteen twenty nine he now said he was going to build his biggest hotel. L today, and it was going to be amazing, and then the world went into the great depression, which literally wasn't that great now. It was he lousy is a lousy depression, but it was enormous. However, and so the stock market crashes and hits a whole bunch of industries, really hard, the motorcycle industry, but the hospitality business really gets hit hard. It's hard to it's hard to go on vacation. Or go traveling when you are struggling to meet ends day today when you're when you're eating. Bread and, and Pabst cheese have cheese. I remember the name of the loaf. Food substance low for something that eighty percent of hotels, we're going bankrupt or being foreclosed or restructured, which is about the same. And at the time he's still has payments, he estimate right there, fixed payments. He's, he's got to make them he's, he's obligated. And so this is again, where he started to take up collections including among his employees, like they're, this is one of those where you get the real big stories. We're like the Bill boys or handing over five hundred dollars, which represented their entire gas, attendant gave him quarters to help them fill up his tank of gas when his car was almost out of gas because all his money was going into the hotel as well. They were also doing cost cutting measures in the hotels, which must have been heartbreaking for Conrad who who really wanted to optimize these hotels for his consumers. They had to do things like clothes floors. And they were even ganging telephones out of rooms to. Save just a few cents for the day and stuff. Yeah. But he's still would end up having to look for more investment to help cover the costs because even while he was cutting back that still wasn't enough to stave off the potential for bankruptcy. So he goes, he gets some more loans, which put him in at a more than like half a million dollars in debt at this point. And so it's really looking pretty grim. You could really say that this is truly the brink moment where he's, he's sitting there looking at five hundred thousand dollars in debt. It is, so he got his loan from the American life insurance company, ran by wwl. Moody and son. An oil, these guys these guys, they had a reputation for not being the most pleasant people to be in business with at least wwl Moody's son did. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't really care either wwl. Moody's son was a bit of a difficult person if I'm going to be super gentle with the description and and senior good old, daddy was totally in his son's camp. It wasn't necessarily the agreed with his son did. But family's family. And so you have this partnership, and the partnership was the agreement was that they would each have a third of the business. And that's because wwl, moody and son, not only had this life insurance company. They also owned a chain of hotels at work struggling in the depression. Yes. So this is all getting merged together. You've got the Hilton hotel are hotels, and you've got Moody's chain of hotels, all being merged together. And as. Part of the agreement. Conrad had it had it written up where if they were two separate, or whatever reason he would walk away with one third of the business. And so they create this merged company, the national hotel company, and Conrad goes back, and he uses his money to try and essentially make good on all the people who had lent him money to keep the business afloat while it was really in dire straits. I think I think this is fantastic that the first thing he wanted to do was make right by the people who helped him. He paid the course back to the gas attendant. He gave money back to hop answer, the bell hop up for life. Yeah, he would become an executive actually in Hilton hotels. But. The turnout that things did not go so well with with, moody and son, as we, we've already mentioned they were essentially not paying Elton his fair share. They stopped paying the leases on the hotels that they owned like they were falling back on all of their obligations and laying all the burden on Conrad Hilton, and one of the things that I thought was really crabby. Conrad still trying to make these hotels successful that takes change. But it also takes money and, and moody and son, did not want to spend that money they didn't want to invest in the hotels. They wanted some help for the business to succeed without them having to put money in, if Conrad decided something was absolutely needed, and the managers of his hotel pushed not changed through the other two would take it out of that managers paycheck. Yeah, it's so so Conrad says enough is enough. I went out and then instead of them honoring the agreement. The Moody's Suam. Yeah. And he tried to sue back. But since he went to the movies for help, he didn't have as much money to really fight back. He knew it would not be a long fight. Yeah. It turned out that they kind of shot themselves in their foot though, because they defaulted on the lease for the El Paso Hilton. And so, the owner of the Paso Hilton turned around to Conrad Hilton and said, you can have this hotel. I don't want to if you can pay or the amount that is Odin me if you can pay what the Moody's own me, which was thirty thousand dollars. You can have this whole hotel, but unfortunately Conrad is still strapped for cash, and he's kind of maxed out all of his lenders at this time. So he does something really cool. It seems like he pulled a hat trick. Yeah. He got seven small loans from companies. That he could give the hotels business too. So he went to his company said you give me. This small amount of money, and I'll give you my hotels business for life. So a laundry mat and a beer company and things like that. Yes, this is almost like a community kind of, of approach to trying to raise money and it worked, and he was able to get is one hotel, and thankfully, after that he eventually got the third of hotels. He was promised. Yes. But there was one other rough art of his life at this point is first wife left him. And according to one biography on the Hilton family, which, by the way, when you say the word Hilton, you, I'm sure everyone out there is thinking about all the different Hilton's have Peres. Yeah. Nicky Hilton, and that sort of stuff, the Hilton families no stranger to controversy and gossip etcetera. But according to one of the biographies on the Hilton family gets a little a sivy. Oh, I don't know how trustworthy it is his wife left him for a football coach with whom she had already been having an affair and that this very deeply hurt. Conrad hilton. And so, at this point, you know, he's got the one hotel, and he's starting to see some financial success, but it's personal life. You might argue is on the brink. Yeah. Well, we have more to say about Conrad Hilton in just a moment. But first, let's take another quick break. Let's just ground the conversation for a second. There's two point two billion people who use Facebook. That's about the size of Christianity. There's one point nine billion people who use YouTube. It's about the size of Islam. Welcome to sleep. Walkers, a podcast about how technology is changing our lives in ways. We don't even notice. How did John? I don't know how we dig into the new technology that is altering, how we understand the world and ask, what effect is it having on us based on what people are searching full. We could direct them to videos on YouTube at counted ISIS propaganda. I'm CARA price on sleep. Walkers, we dive deep into the revolution. And find out what it means for our future, with the people who are building it every week will bring you mind blowing accounts of AI in daily life from algorithms in American courtrooms to a UFO that came out of the sky in northern Mexico like and subscribe to sleep Bucker on apple podcasts, the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Alright. So Conrad Hilton has started to rebound. He's got the hotels that he was promised from his previous agreement. What happens next? Well, then he starts capitalizing on the fact that the hotel industry, got hit so hard and he starts buying up a bunch of the other hotels that struggled in the great depression like when he talked about eighty percent had gone out of business or were in bankruptcy. So this is nineteen thirty seven the great depressions, not quite over yet. It would end in nineteen thirty nine and he had his eye on this one particular hotel, the Stevens in Chicago. He he really wanted that hotel. It was the biggest hotel in the world heaving out a personal tour of it, and it wasn't for sale at the time. Yeah, but he, he was like one day, one day that will be mine. And so he made plans for that one day when it would be for sale. He started buying bonds because the bonds for this place I really cheap because shine and he had friends do. The same so that if it ever went on sale, he would be the majority bondholder and have a much easier time buying it. Yeah. Interesting. You know, I actually stayed across the street from another hotel that he flipped during this time the Francis Drake, which is in San Francisco. I literally stayed across the street from that hotel. And so when we were doing a research for this, I thas like Why's that name sell familiar. Oh, right. That's what I saw every time I stepped outside of my hotel. That was actually just like a month ago when we were recording this nice but then he starts to now. He's seeing some success. He's starting to get some traction here, the great depression is ending. He starts to expand beyond the United States. He starts opening up hotels or leasing L hotels in other countries. Yes, in the nineteen forties. In fact, Hilton started the first international hotel chain. So then nineteen forty two something else happens to his beloved Stevens. He had. Military uses it for housing because World War Two yeah. The made four hundred thousand dollars out of the deal and later in the forties. He got the Stephen corporation, even though the military still had the actual building. Now, nineteen forty two here's where we're going to give our trigger warning for something really unpleasant. I would I would recommend skipping ahead by a couple of minutes. If you are sensitive to really disturbing details because this is one of those stories, it's not it's not fully supported, and it's contested by a lot of people. But I feel like we need to mention it. So nineteen forty to Konrad, Mary's a second wife and his second wife is Josh Gabor. Right. The famous well, not really. You can't really call her an actress or a singer. She did some of both. But she was really famous for being part of the sisters and soja Gabor gets married. It would be her second hug. Even and his second wife and for most of the reports I read their marriage was not a happy one because Conrad didn't like the way that Joshua really wanted to indulge in the luxuries of life and Joshua felt that Conrad was trying to control her. There was some reports that said Conrad called her Georgia, because he had problems saying Joschka, and then Joshua said, no, he was forcing me to change my name to Georgia, Al, and these conflicting stories really culminate with the birth of their daughter Francesca Hilton. Because in an autobiography Shasha Gabor would allege that Francesca Hilton was the product of marital, rape. Which is obviously if true truly horrifying. Right. There's it, it, it's so in contrast with everything else, we know about Conrad Hilton, that's. It's hard to believe, but at the same time, you don't want to dismiss someone right now, Joshua road that autobiography decades after Conrad Hilton had passed away, and there were others at the time who are even questioning wrench, husker's parentage, who had suggested that maybe that, that George Sanders, who would turn out end up later being, Josh Gabor, third husband might have been the father, and there was even one incredibly salacious report. I read that suggested Conrad junior. Conrad Hilton's son was the father. Yeah. So very disturbing and Francesca, Hilton's story is a truly tragic one as well. She grew up in luxury, but that did not last her whole life. She was not a, you know, a Hilton that was living the high life and she died at the age of sixty seven she was essentially penniless living out of her car. She had she had done some acting. And she had worked some for the Hilton hotel. Group Hilton foundation, but she wasn't left much. She was she predeceased Zsa Gabor by about two years. But at that time, Schaja Gabor had dementia and was probably unaware that her daughter had passed away. So very tragic, story, it, it makes you think how many because when you're talking about a person associated with the company as opposed to just company it feels like there's a lot more opinion, but into there. And so it makes you wonder how many of these kids up to this point, it's been a fairly flawless record for Conrad. Hilton how much is opinion or how much is. Public appearance. Right. Or, you know, it's, it's really difficult to say, so we don't want to dismiss the charge. Right. That's certainly not what we want to do. It is hard to reconcile when we look at the rest of the story, but it could very well be that the rest of Conrad Hilton's story has been whitewashed a bit. And maybe to to really elevate him beyond. I mean he he was a human being like everybody. Yeah. So perhaps he was a human being capable of doing that. It is impossible for us to say. But it certainly is something that we wanted to, to mention because it wouldn't be fair to give some sort of glowing review of this man. And then yeah. Skip over this detail. Exactly. Now, he also did some very good stuff in nineteen forty four he started philanthropic trust. Yep. It Conrad Hilton foundation and it became a legal nonprofit in nineteen fifty separate from Hilton. Yeon hotel group, and the foundation still exists and at a wards prizes organizations who strive to end world suffering, so small grants to bunch of companies who are really trying to make the world, a better place. It also supports efforts to help the blind the homeless and improve education. Conrad Hilton was big on children's education and children's safety is his second son, Barron. Hilton joined the foundation in nineteen fifty. He would be the chairman of the board from twenty ten to two thousand twelve his first son. Conrad junior would go on to marry Elizabeth Taylor. And then he has to weigh in nineteen sixty nine so as I son has to weigh, much earlier than an as others so well dako- back to the hotel business. Yes, that's what we're here for. We're here for in nineteen forty six Healton, consolidate all of his properties into the Hilton hotels corporation, and this is really. Smart on his part, again, he was using his math brain because it reduced Hilton's aggregate debt by twenty seven percent. And it raised the original investors holdings in the company, two hundred seventy five percent because he listed the hotel on the new York Stock Exchange. It was the first hotel to be publicly traded in nineteen forty eight he created Hilton International is a subsidiary company to the main company, and he tried to make sure that whenever he was building in another country that he was sourcing things locally, right? He wasn't bringing stuff from outside. He wanted to support the local economy so building supplies furnishings, even people who train to staff. He had a motto world peace, international trade and travel. He acquired the management rights to New York's Waldorf Astoria in nineteen forty nine that was another one that he had looked at and thought Sunday ill they mine. I he's the same bond trick that he had used on the Stevens. Now, his investors didn't think this was a smart by, and I think eventually Hilton hotels, sold the wall. Or they also did a major renovation as well. Yeah, it was it was considered to be past its prime the great depression. It hit the Waldorf Astoria pretty hard. Yes. And after that he finally got his Stevens house, and the popular Palmer house. And I say popular because it actually was making some money, and this was not as smooth transaction. No, he he went to buy the Stevens house. The Stephen seller kept up the price, which is not maybe the best business decision on Conrad's part to keep agreeing to these upper prices, and you go to buy it, and the seller would disappear and things like that. And so he said, okay, I'm gonna by the Palmer house. Instead, they're being a lot more upfront about things, and then the Stevens seller came back, and there is some conflict of interest and issues, but he eventually got both. He then buys a home in Bel Air for two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars that land appreciated in value. Value. Yes exponentially. It's worth over two hundred million dollars right now. He acquired the statler hotels in nineteen fifty. Or also, if you're a Muppets fan, you're probably hearing things like statler and Waldorf. Yes. That's where their names come from. Interesting fact, acquiring the statler hotels was the largest retail transaction in the world. At that time, it was a one hundred and eleven million dollar purchase and keeps on growing. Conrad ends up taking public speaking engagements, which was something that he had enjoyed doing back when he was working in the New Mexico government. And he also starts to kind of create standards for hotel rooms that you see all around the world today, things like making sure that every single room has an air conditioning system of up to it. Yeah. And creating a central hotel reservation system where you can book a room from multiple hotels in one place. Yeah. He then hands over the company in nineteen sixty two his son, Barron. The second of his sons and Conrad would stay on as chairman of the board. I'm really hoping he didn't pull agus. He didn't pull a Gus. Yeah. So in sixty four Hilton International becomes its own company, they spin off Hilton International. It's no longer subsidiary. It's its own separate entity and then it gets real complicated. It's traded around by airlines and foreign governments being reunited had it for a while for about forty years at did this. Yeah. So further complicating matters is that there was this conflict going on between the US branch of Hilton. And then Hilton International, I shouldn't say, US branch, the US Hilton company, and then Hilton International which were two separate companies, Dan complication was that. The Hilton International company could own hotels in the United States, but they were not allowed to call them Hilton hotels, because the US Elton company had the exclusive right within the United States to use that name. Likewise, the US company of Hilton was not allowed to call any hotels owned internationally Hilton hotels. So the Hilton International hotels in America, were vista hotels and the Hilton US hotels overseas were called. Conrad hotels. Bun, the Vinci? They were able to get their act together and workout in agreement, do smooth that out. But yeah, that just makes it even more complicated. Now in nineteen seventy nine Conrad Hilton passed away, the ripe old age of ninety one and he left almost all of his estate to his foundation. He give some reports say about one hundred thousand two hundred chaska. Yeah. So he had planned on doing this on leaving the vast majority of his estate to the foundation, and he had said that he didn't really want to have his children just inherited a huge amount of money of that. They should also earn their their money just as he had done. I personally think that particular thing of, of wanting your kids to earn money is pretty cool. Yeah. Beran however, kind of did it some maneuvers that ended up making him an extremely rich man. A billionaire. So Barron was able to kind of rest, a larger piece than perhaps what was intended for him based on Conrad's wishes, the and it made him a extremely rich man. However, Barron, intern in two thousand seven said he was going to, to dedicate ninety seven percent of his own estate to go to the foundation and kind of follow in his father's footsteps in that sense. I want to mention here because this is something that just speaks to my humanitarian heart that the goal of the foundation was to foster peace through the Power International travel, and he left guidance for the foundation to alleviate human suffering around the world without regard to race religion or country and throughout his speaking engagements and his personal endeavors through life. There are accounts of him really standing up to that belief that it didn't matter, what you're even though he was devoutly Catholic. It didn't matter your religion. It didn't Ramona your release. Country. Everybody deserve to be able to live in peace. Yes. Yeah. So the foundation has given out more than one and a half billion dollars in grants. So it has certainly been active in that role to that, that is something that's truly admirable. Now Hilton's had a lot of other break moments where we're getting to the end and we're going to skip some of those future. Bring mum well past us, but future from the time, we're ending this story because we want to keep that in case we won't ever want to revisit Hilton, and kind of talk about these other moments like when Hilton got acquired by the Blackstone group in two thousand seven but we'll talk about that in another episode we probably won't talk about the exploits of the extended Hilton family, and how they landed in tabloids time, and time again, that seems like that is bit for a different type of podcast. Yes. Yes, but we thought this was particularly an. An interesting topic we wanna thank DJ again for suggesting at and there's so many different things that we could have mentioned. In fact, I've looked scrolling right now through our different of facts, and there are ton of them, but I feel like we've been going on for a good while. So I think we can conclude this and just say that they'll Conrad Hilton was truly a two nations businessman, you know, someone who did not give up at all. I was going to give up easily, but he never really gave up, which is pretty phenomenal. Considering the odds that he was facing time and time again and his career according to most reports he did it, honestly. And he did it upstanding. Yeah. So that's at work. Yes, I think I think we can make it one. So thank you again, DJ, if you guys have any suggestions for things that we should cover in future episodes of the brink you can reach out to us. How do they do that Ariel? Well, they can Email us at feedback at the brink podcast dot show. 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The Battle of the Hotels: Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott and IHG

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The Battle of the Hotels: Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott and IHG

"Kind of simple. Everybody beats all you need to do on credit cards to the table has points hotel for twenty five dollars. I may or may not have also been ongoing for talking points. I'm Brian Kelly. So if you're in the midst of Planning Your Amazing Twenty Twenty vacation patient. You'RE GONNA WANNA stay tuned today. Let's get ready to rumble. I'm here to call a battle. teepee style we're debating four hotel chains Pyatt Hilton Marriott. I H G brought to you by few of our very own in house points experts. They're going to dive into some of the more technical aspects of each each of these brands. Like how you can earn redeem with each hotel. The team also debates which chain offers the best elite status benefits and who offers the best overall overall experience. You've ever had questions we've got the answer so turn it up and get ready to take notes. It's a bad over Yao hotels and you don't WanNa miss it coming up right after this message. Hey It's me again. Brian Kelly the point sky with a very important. PSA You need you get in the know with TB. Jeez daily newsletter. It's where you can get all the latest news and aviation deal alerts and the very best tips in the points and miles space. Subscribe to it right now and get delivered for free straight to your inbox every day. Text talking points to three three triple seven. That's talking points joints two three three seven seven seven. See when your in box all right without further ado. Let's get into it. The Hotel Battle Hyatt Hilton Marriott. And here's our moderator. Julian Keel teepee emeritus director of credit cards and points and miles. Take it away Julian. Thank you Brian. I'm Jillian Keel. The director of credit cards and points and miles at the points guy. I am excited today. I have four hotel experts with me and we are going to be doing the battle of hotels. Let's start with Zach griff our travel endless. Hello Zack Hey Julian how's it going. Tell me what Cheney covering today I'll be covering my personal favorite. Hi Hi. It's a very big points in miles favorite also with us. Jt Enter our senior points and miles writer. Hello JD Jolyon. which brand do you talking about? I'll be defending is she. which is the hotel? Branwar spent the most nights this year and in the last two and a half years since going pneumatic a serious high HD HD fan. Yes all right sounds good. We've got cursor Ross and our points in miles reporter. which brand do you talking about today covering Hilton? which is my personal favorite brand? Lorenzo Hilton fans out there and then finally summer hall our director of travel here at Tgi Hud summer. How Juliet Hot Yes so I am going to be defending Mary bond boy. It is actually the program that I have had top tier status with the longest. Now hot minute since I had hiatt so I I have become a Marriott girl sort of yeah and a lot of Marriott in the news in the last year so let's start right there. What would you say for each? We'll start with you summer. What is the one thing? The one worst thing about Marriott's in one sentence from the best thing about Marriott is Saint Regis their high end properties. He's really are amazing. aspirational and something that Makes points worth it for me. So on the flip side I have had a lot of problems with the integration. They are now fully integrated program with Starwood Arwood but there was some serious serious rocky roads and lost points to get there So that was. That's been the worst part for me the last couple of years. Yeah there's been a lot of complaints about it's not just me. Yeah we'll get to that. Jt How about you. For I. H G best thing in worst thing about it. Yeah the reason why she is. The promotions are really great. The rewards program especially with credit cards. You get great night's for cheap. The worst they would definitely be a lack of hotel benefits like guaranteed late. Checkout even has a top tier. I don't get that or breakfast at all hotel brands and you're a top tier elite at a lot of hotel brands. And we'll get just a little bit Carita. As far as Hilton best thing and worse thing I would say Hilton is probably my favorite because it has the most accessible elite status so you get the most bang for your buck with your top tier status. I'd say probably the worst thing is how they tend to devalue their own points Frequently and without notice. Yeah if you're into the the point smiles but some people may just like Hiltons in general. That's true yeah. And Zach Hyatt like I said before points in miles favorite best and worst thing. Thanks for letting me take this one home because the clear clear win for high at here Hi. It's top tier. Elite status is easily the most rewarding of all of them They're fantastic about offering consistent benefits across all the different hotels whether it's confirmed sweet upgrades guaranteed late. checkouts breakfast everywhere under the sort of like exclusions that you get with some of the other chains and earning and burning points with height is super easy transferable currencies from trace and Yeah the only real issue is you can't find height everywhere Hi It's a portfolio is a little bit more limited than the other larger legacy chains but Hyatt. If it's in a place you're traveling going to. It's often the best hotel to choose but some people would argue that the key point of a hotel what you need the most is for them to be one there where you need it and that is somewhere somewhere highest serious For sure and hides doing its due diligence there. And they've had some recent acquisitions some other hotel chains so hopefully they will continue on that making a lot of party partnerships small luxury hotels taking over to Tallahassee so they have integrated more properties into their portfolio. But yes agreed. Are y'all crazy so I have heard High at yeah. They're Nice but you probably won't have one where you are and I've heard ice she. You don't really get anything being elite and I've heard Hilton. Yeah your points may be worth nothing tomorrow and yet here. y'All sit defending. These is the best loyalty programs. It's really quite entertaining. Maria does have the most hotel Marriott has close to seven thousand properties around the world. They do have legit elite status benefits. I love my free breakfasts. This is the selection. I make as a platinum when I check in and yeah they do have some properties have gone up in points but it typically isn't a surprise that just happens overnight so I think you'll lost already. We can wrap it up now. I think Mary also has its own HASHTAG bond void. It does so what is it. People who may not know what is point is is is the term that people use when they get unexpectedly screwed over by Marriott may or may not have also been yes I also was bond void So so that's no no. They might be now. How far do you have to fall when you're already starting with not much like with Marriott? You go in with high expectations tation so get knocked down a little bit. You still come out ahead. I've been bond void and yet I have also been saint. Regis it even unfair though at this point to say with that you are going in with high expectations when it comes to customer service I really I have had real problems where I had hours and hours on the phone. I've written stories about these on the points guy real frustration legit but I will say most of those are now in the rear view mirror. I'M NOT GONNA say it's not still happening to someone but a lot of the problems. uh-huh were centered around reservations made before the two programs merged and we're pretty much past the date or our past the date now. That's even possible so I'm not saying you can't that still have problems of Marriott but I can say that I'm not really having those anymore and I had some big ones. If I was still going through that day after day with Marriott I would have said Cya Nahra eh but I'm not and so instead I'm just living it up. You know at the Western snowmass and skiing out for thirty five thousand points tonight. What about that? Yeah yeah well the only issue though is right you have seven thousand hotels and you talk about you. Know you haven't been bond void nearly as frequently as maybe you are back in the day when the merger what's happening but how hotels how consistent are hotels in delivering your early benefits by upgrade. That might be a problem but in fairness I I wasn't getting the day of complimentary sweet grades frequently with high at either right but I also have four certificates that can use to confirm upgrades and each up to seven eight. Yeah exactly and we're talking about standard suites at top Tier Properties Park. Hyatt's we can go onto battle. Who has the most luxurious hotels? But I'm going to be staying in a suite and most likely as a platinum. You probably are. Well you're right however I travel with two kids so there's four of us in a room. A suite actually isn't useful anymore. It was there was a period of time where sweets were the ultimate and that is when I was a high at globalist or diamond at the time but now sweetshop one bed and then some light crummy sofa pullout so if you need a sweet you know maybe hired is a good thing to focus on for for that period of time in your life. But I'm at a time. Any beds in a room and so sweet upgrade for me is is useless most of the time. I'd rather have an awesome hotel exactly where I want it to beat beat and a few hundred more square feet most of the time speaking of upgrades one of the things about Hilton diamond status. That a lot of people complain about is that so you don't get confirmed upgrades. It's at the discretion of each individual property. Correct that's correct. I will say even though I don't have confirmed sweet upgrades. I have played in large large number of nights and home properties across the world and I've gotten upgraded on sweets on awards days on page days. Basically it's just the US. I think where you're shafted in terms of the sweet upgrades but everywhere else and the rest of the world you're getting in but you think that Hilton is at a slight disadvantage. Because of that because of these other chains that maybe do confirm Swede upgrades think it just depends on what your priorities are in the same in the same way that summer says I'd rather have a reliable quality hotel all across the world. And maybe I'll have a suite upgrade. Maybe I won't but I at least know that I'm going to have key benefits. It's available to me at a high quality level and on the flip side as far as earning top tier status. It's probably easiest with help. I'm just going to go ahead and just throughout throughout that Hilton aspire card because everyone else is just you guys have no game You know interest in terms of light barrier to entry to top Tier Diamond Status Status or top Jerry Lee Status Hilton. Has Everybody beat all you need to do his own one credit card right so with Hilton. You don't have to choose to focus all your stays on Hilton. You can just have a card and keep it in your pocket when you need. Ah The aspires a tremendous card But even if you just have the platinum or one of the less expensive Hilton Cards. That's all we had. We Have Hilton Gold status went to Bora Bora got free breakfast. All of us every single day which was like almost two hundred dollars in value and just with gold with gold status matched. Although I could've just done it for my platinum platinum card as well so I think Chris is right. There's definitely the lowest barrier to entry with Hilton But you don't actually have to make it your program if you don't want to with Marriott right you're gonNA have to make your program to get those elite benefits that you want with Iot. She I achieve has a credit card. And I'll get you miss your status. which comes with a lot perks? I almost I prefer that the top tier status is in giving away on a credit card. I do have the Hilton. Aspire some Hilton diamond and gotten plenty of benefits. But it feels almost achieving. I think that's the point of points in miles instead of cheating eating your way to the top astonished manage rather to one of the conferences that we sometimes have about points and miles and you'll sat and listened to the whole thing and at the end I said what do you think he's sounds like you. Guys are a bunch of scammers. Okay got it but when it comes to I g though A lot of people are not that familiar with the program and especially the promotions that you mentioned right yes who here at the table has bought points and stay hotel for twenty five dollars a night. Yeah I bought the points but remember I'm at the Saint Regis so it's a bit more but I mean that's part of why so many nights that I she is there scrape promotions point break. Isn't it nearly as great as it used to be where they're be two hundred. Hotels are discount suggest five K.. Points tonight but there's still plenty of hotels that are ten K.. Points fifteen points that I and TGI valuations point five cents each. You can oftentimes oftentimes by it for point five cents each so I mean we've stayed at incredible continental resorts for sixty two dollars. A night of bought points by combining doc by points promotion with four night free benefit on the credit card. And that's hard to beat but those hotels that are on the promotion Often they're not the most desirable we'll properties correct well usually But there's some that are just opened Have Gotten incredible is a hotel indigo. That just opened in Austin and they. You're struggling to fill room. So Is Ryan Downtown Austin Ten K.. Points at nights there are some that are very desirable but people haven't found them yet. You know for all you guys. You're talking about about like these credit cards and the ability to use your points and it's Kinda cheap. Let's face it the easiest points to earn. If you have a trace card or any transferable chase sapphire preferred or chase F- reserve your points transfer one two one two high it instantly and I mean yeah I don't buy points because I have a bunch of transferable credit card points that I earn on my chase cards and the ability to actually get my points instantly from jas any time if there's award. Availability is incredible. You cannot transfer Amex points to hotels nearly as efficiently as you can trace too high it and and the highest award chart at the moment Max out at around thirty thousand Point four categories seven. There is this kind of category eight for some of their newer partner. Hotels tells but to transfer thirty thousand chase points for a night at a park. Hyatt in the Caribbean is incredible. Can you clarify what you mean by. Ethanol the minutes yet for sure. So starting March twenty twenty high. It will be introducing off peak and peak pricing. That's something that Marriott's done for about the year ish now and obviously Hilton doesn't have a word charge so I don't know how many points a Hilton would be ever and so what is doing is kind of what the other big boys are doing. They are introducing. This charter and award nights are going to vary based on the season of the date. But it's awesome is that its height. Who Setting those award rates so the peak and off peak determined by the corporate headquarters not by hotels themselves hotels go rogue as we've seen with Marriott bond boy the whole merger hotels can Kinda do what they want but high? It's going to try to stop that by having the corporate headquarters determine those dates and they're set once a year so high it will say. Hey this is how we predict are seasonality to be peak. Dates will be Christmas new years. You know spring break and stuff and that doesn't change so with Marriott. I make my my reservation now for six months from now and I check every two weeks to see what happens because you never know what's going to happen. It's more dynamic Marriott's peak off peak system is it's difficult to navigate because it changes constantly as much about constantly constantly said monthly Fli. Well we'll see regularly but I'll tell you so yes I don't like peak and off peak pricing and Marriott for that were it not for the fact that you know essentially all programs are doing it or about to do it so it's not really a unique negative. Excuse me is she does not have Pecan off-peak Pricey I think they are moving toward dynamic though aren't they. Hey we've heard some things that is in the works. There's been rumors but not out yet. So you can still redeem seventy K.. Points for the ENSCONCE Central Times Square for new New Year's Eve. My points three hundred fifty dollars a night for Times Square New Year's Eve. I don't WanNa buy points. I WanNa just like earn them from my cards and use them at the fancy places. So I'll say with pecan he can off-peak with Marriott. I wish they didn't have liked it when they didn't but I have found some surprisingly good deals on some peak dates left for example. We're hosting our inlaws for Christmas. Smith's and you know we live in the middle of nowhere Texas but the Marriott. There's off peak around Christmas and so it costs even fewer points than I expected. So I don't like that but but sometimes you do come out on the upside. And I'm sure we'll see the same with high when they when they transitioned to the P can offer pricing later this year. We're still guessing in. I'm still guessing every time I make a reservation because if it's at a standard or peak price chances are something's GonNa Change before So maybe it'll go down and you get some points back and you're a winner winter and it has but too often goes up there. You go all right all right folks we're GonNa take a quick break and then we will be back with continuation of the battle of hotels here on talking points that's right Julianne td staffers. We'll be back to duke it out right after this they were back and boy things getting heated. And we haven't even heard about co branded cards yet. I'M GONNA throw back to Jillian right now. Take it away. Welcome back the battle of the hotels here on talking points. I'm Julian Keel Director of credit cards and points in miles here at TB g with me today Zach griff defending Hyatt jt enter defending. I H. G. Chris Rawson with Hilton and Summer Hall with Marriott. Let's talk a little bit about the CO branded credit cards with these for brands Chrissa. We talked a little bit about out. The aspire card and a comes automatically with Hilton's highest level status it. Also if you're into Hilton points comes with some terrific airing rates. Yeah it's got some really really excellent. I think think unparalleled benefits compared to any other large hotel chains On the Hilton. Aspire you get an automatic fourteen times points per dollar but that doesn't also you didn't count the fact that did you are diamond status. So you're actually four points per door at Hilton Hilton Properties specifically. That's great but as a Hilton diamond. You're also getting twenty points per dollar so every dollar you spend with your spire card at a Hilton property. You're earning thirty four points per dollar which is just incredible in addition to airline credits resort. I could go on for days about all the benefits that the Hilton Aspera card. We'll give you you know. Two hundred fifty dollars an incidental airline fees Two hundred fifty dollar resort credit at Hilton properties. Things like that at some unparalleled. Maria Korea has a similar premium credit card the Marriott brilliant card and It's good I would argue. It's not quite as good when it comes to the credits and such. I think that's fair right. I think one of the huge values though from this card is the the fifty K.. Award night you're going to get each year. Because the properties you can book within the Marriott System for fifty K.. Points are are pretty impressive and so that alone is a chunk of the value for me but I would agree. It's not exactly the same type of card is the aspire high doesn't have a premium card. I would argue. They should lead but they did revamp their base card just within the last year or so. So what's Nice about height is it's kind of simple. You got one card. You got the world of high credit card so kind of mid tier here card has a ninety five dollar annual fee. It got a little bit of quirkiness to it and that the first thing is you can earn elite status just by having the card hard. It's not as easy as the helping aspire card so you don't just hold the card and get top tier or elite status. If you hold the card you get the lowest level of leads. Data's discovery But you can spend your way pretty easily to globalist to top to your highest status ready easily six figures. You have to charge per year to do that so I'm thinking being a of a situation where you have a small business or you're putting you know renovating a house or something or have some over the course of a year. A hundred thousand one dollars of credit card expenses you will earn a two elite qualifying nights for every five thousand dollars. You spend And you know that sounds like a lot but think about about someone who spends forty nights at a hotel in needs twenty extra or fifteen extra to augment and to supplement on that and get top tier elite status. So Zack. Let me tell you about Marianne got with. You've gotTa have fifty nights to hit platinum which they do have some higher tiers but lost it platinum and I would argue I would. Are you get more titanium titanium though. Oh okay but we're with the real world we're not. Everyone has six figures of things so to get platinum. You Need Fifty Nine Year award nights count and having in pretty much any of the main Marriott card. You're going to get fifteen elite nights credit just by having the cardinal under one hundred dollars or around one hundred dollars a year so that leaves. He's just thirty five and then they'll have double Sta- promos. I've been targeted for those at least once or twice the last several years. So when you're picking up two nights at a time and award nights nights count. Thirty five is a really reasonable number. That argue is much more within range than charging six figures on your card to get top tier status. That's totally true. But can you know look at 'em that calculation for soft that this the tiered status is probably between platinum and world of high levels aren't necessarily equal Marriott. Platinum is definitely not nearly as rewarding as globalist. But let's just take it. You know just easy calculation here assume globalist platinum or the same. You're spending thirty nights at a hotel and end with HIATT. You need an additional depend. If you re qualifying you'll only needed additional twenty five nights that you'd need charger way to you. Divide twenty five and two. That's like twelve and a half. Let's go with twelve So then you're needing sixty thousand dollars in credit card spend over the course of a year to supplement and get you to that globalist here status. There's more flexibility. It's not all or nothing exact right. That's still sounds like a lot and I'd rather put my earnings are mice expenditures on a car. That's going to be more rewarding and flexible than block it all onto one hotel program that there are enough. Let's talk for a second about the I.. H. G. Premier which I know. Jt is literally one of your favorite cars. Probably your favorite hotel card. It is my favorite hotel. It's all card. The spire is is pretty close but it's incredible to be able to pay just eighty nine dollars a year get platinum status which comes with a number of benefits yet at least twenty point. Five X Points when we used at I g hotels and chartered a card at ten on the card and then ten base at I achieve plus since you'll have have platinum status you have five more and get a free anniversary night each year which is capped but it's unlimited cap it right that's right and while it's captain at forty thousand points per night that's that's a hotel that we would value two hundred dollars to be G. Evaluations just eighty nine dollars a year. It's hard that I can easily defend and your favorite benefit probably the fourth night free. Exactly talk that I say Yeah I. I should've actually added up. How many four nine freeze? I've done this year but it it is a lot. I spent many nights for free thanks to this card. Fourth Award Redemption in the Award Redemption floating point break hotels are promotions oceans It's incredible you save tons of points on that. I want to talk for a second about what we each. See Coming in. Twenty twenty on the hotel front and and I actually want to start with. I achieved because I recently did an HD rewards stay in Frankfort at a points break hotel one of the fifteen thousand ones. And I had never seen this before but maybe you have the room. I was assigned was specifically marked literally on the door. I H G rewards club room meaning that they had put aside about about half a dozen rooms in the hotel specifically for redemptions. And when I walked in it was one of the nicer rooms in the hotel and I thought I'd never seen that before and the reason I'm bringing up as I feel that as hotels are competing as it is getting tougher to compete when it comes to loyalty programs because there have been a lot of evaluations nations that sort of individual attention. That's rewarding of loyalty I think is going to become more of a factor. Simple touch like that. Yeah why give the free redemption the worst room when you're rewarding your most loyal customer and unfortunately I've had that with Iot she In Bora Bora Seemingly the worst room which is is still over water villa. So it's hard to complain about but Yeah I haven't seen that spent about ninety nine so far itchy. You probably more than half of those were nights and I haven't seen that yet. What what you're planning twenty twenty Friday? It's going to probably do another ninety nights. Do you think probably yeah. I've have been a spike Lee. This is my second year. I'll probably requalify again next year. I'll be rolling over some nights. Thanks to surpassing the seventy five. That's needed all-star next year with a few in the bank are you concerned about dynamic pricing. Yes I am I feel like it's gotta come eventually. I'm hoping that it wants as some points points out. The pricing can be raising great value. If you're flexible and you're traveling those off peak times I liked. Simplicity of you know exactly how much you pay for a Hotel Caruso Hilton in twenty twenty. What do you think do you think? There's any changes on the horizon. What your plans? I actually do know that. Hilton is launching more luxury three properties they. It's been on their radar and the hard Bush Stu so can kind of be on the lakes of Saint Regis or apart guy. So I'm really looking forward to that as long as I'm a the hill diamond elite which I will be forever with the ASPERA card and with no stays at all. I'm going to be staying at Helen. You know they give me the most for what I'm willing to put in and Hilton to. Some degree started the dynamic pricing trend way back when when they got rid of their charts and even before that when they started doing ranges for their top your properties yes and I know I mean Hilton. Technically doesn't have a word sharp. But it has some actual fourteen categories ranging and five thousand points to ninety five thousand points a night with one single exception so for standard room rewards. That's really what you're looking at. If you'RE GONNA go premium rewards I suggest you look elsewhere but for the most part you can look at a Hilton property in pay specific acidic mount even though it's not a published award when it comes to high at we already know of one major change that we talked about in twenty twenty. What else do you see coming down the pike? Yeah I think that this peak off peak pricing is probably heights biggest. Change certainly from the earning in this case burning side of the equation. I'd love to see how it acquired more properties. It's certainly we also been a big play for them in the last year and I wouldn't be surprised to see more acquisitions there. Do you think we'll see more hotels tells creep into that category eight to great question Hi It's been pretty good about keeping their properties in category seven and I'm hopeful that they'll stay there for the next year and when it comes to Marriott in twenty twenty summer you'll be you'll be staying at the Saint Regis again. I hope I think twenty twenty is going to be smooth sailing for Marriott. I think the last a couple of years have been marked with a lot of change and some waves but I think twenty twenty is going to be a relatively stable year for them. I'm excited that. They're getting more into the all inclusive market. which can be fun on for an easy bake so I think twenty twenty s looking good for all right? We're going to have to leave it there for today. Thank you ZAC. JT CHARISMA and summer for joining us here. For today's battle the hotel's on talking points Jillian. He'll let's go back to Brian for a little rock. Thanks Julian soap. WHO's the winner? You decide let us know on twitter at the point sky and make sure to check out the points Guy Dot Com for more details on your favorite hotels my two cents to be honest. Each has their own up and downs. I was starwood loyal. Rip and thus Marriott. So I'm pretty happy as Mary. Titanium Ambassador Moso Hilton Elton Diamond from my Centurion Card and boy did they treat you well at the Waldorf Astoria Maldives really like Waldorf Astoria Hotel. I'm kind of you know to sleeping around these days even though I am getting married around in hotels in any case but you know I have some value. Hotels are not for me personally personally. Elite Status Wise. I think it probably has the best elite status perks with full benefit and upgrades but really when it comes down to Hotel choices. There is no one right or wrong answer about footprint. The elite perks credit cards. And where you want to redeem your mile so to each their own and that's it for the battle of hotels. 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They allow all the way down to silver their lowest tier to take advantage of fifth night free, which I think is pretty cool world of high it, I think the best thing about the highest program may have really reasonable redemption rates and a quick intro into the world of timeshares. If your active in the miles and points community, you're actually very well equipped to get the most out of the timeshare, teepee G, senior editor Darren Murph is fluent in all things. Hilton honors explains how you can find the most value in the program. Why the Hilton aspire card is a no brainer. And if the program is right for you. What do we value Hilton points at and do you agree with it? It's on the low end. So it's six cents per point, which six months of that's right. Six tenths percent for so hundred thousand points. We value at six hundred bucks. Yes, that's much lower than some of the transfer points, AmEx membership rewards chase ultimate awards and, and city. Thank you points. But that's to be expected because those can go many different places. So the question is do I agree with that or not? It's become more difficult. Now they have gotten rid of the award chart. So they've moved this dynamic chart. That's not quite revenue-based, but they're leaning in that direction. And so I can find redemptions that absolutely lineup with that. And then I can find some like the hill Maria where they're worth half as much as what we say they are how much did that cost the night and what would it have cost points? So the base level room there is around. And six hundred night, six hundred US dollars night. Those same room at our valuation. You should be able to use one hundred thousand points, then that's right. That's right. However, to buy that same room with points. It's one hundred eighty eight thou-. So this is a situation where you really shouldn't use your points, you would be much, much better. Having a co branded Hilton AmEx buying it with cash, doubling up on the redemptions that you earn from stay an aspirational stay like that is that because it was no basic rooms available. Is that how so let's talk about the Hilton program based, so there's a standard room you should be able to redeem at. Well, there is no standard rate anymore because there's no award char. That's the problem. So the upside is, is Hilton pulling the rug out from under us. They, they have been slowly in this case, the upside is Hilton will allow you to book any room they sell with points. That's not the case with other properties to Hilton have any really, you know, Mary at use of the hotel, plus air packages fifth nights free. Like, what are some of? The sweet spots using Hilton points. So Hilton got rid of acts on which was a little known perk, but it was a co branded AmEx card perk that you could get more for your miles. So they got rid of that a few years ago for your point sorry, but fifth night free remains, and they allow all the way down to silver their lowest tier to take advantage of fifth night free. Which I think is pretty cool. So you don't have to be a top tier league news fifth night, but Marianne gives fifth Neifert everyone right? Yeah, yeah. But it's, it's fairly easy to earn silver with Helton. But yeah, it's a fair point. Should go all the way down generally speaking, the evaluations tend to only make sense when you use a fifth night free. Because when you throw that fifth night, free and the averages of the point valuation, start to make more sense. So that's, that's a good perk. Another thing in the sporting events are a real strong suit for Hilton. Really? Yeah. So what will happen is if it's a baseball game. It's a football game. It's a NASCAR that hotels in that area will inflate their rates accordingly because they know a flood of people will come in for. This one that more often than not the points, do not go up in proportion to the dollars. So if you really want to go to a sporting event, and it looks like cash wise, all of your options are really, really high checkout, Hilton's points. They'll still be up a little from the base, but not as much proportionately so you can find some sweet redemption there. Well, when it comes to redeeming points, four experiences can use Hilton points for sporting events, and concerts at a decent rate. You can and I actually do like how they've laid out their experience purchase page. They rank them by points so you can focus what you look at on the experience page based on how many points you have. So it kind of limits. What you're looking at. I, I generally, don't find them to be an amazing value, unless it's an exclusive event where you can't buy or you can't buy it anyway. So if it's something you really want to do, or your significant other, or someone in your family would love to do, and it's an exclusive it might be a good use of it. If it's just using your points to buy concert tickets, that you could buy cash. Generally, you're better pay cash. Let's take a pivot first second to elite status. Where does Hilton diamonds, shine in comparison to others. Would you say Hilton definitely likes to surprise and delight I always feel like I'm getting something extra? When I show up as a diamond, they will always try to upgrade me. I have never ran into a situation where they just refuse to look. They will always try to do it. And they seem to take great pleasure in doing that. What I think is unique about Hilton. Is it actually starts at gold, where they give free breakfast across the boards at gold and this doesn't happen at pretty much any other chain. You have to be topped here, and even sometimes top tier doesn't get that included in why that's a big deal. If you stay at aspirational places like the Hilton Maria a breakfast buffet. There is between forty and fifty dollars per person. When I checked in as a diamond, even though I didn't book through Hilton dot com. They recognize my status for myself and my guest, we got free breakfast, every day over the course of a multi day stay this hundreds of dollars. So Hilton diamond would you say is in the middle of the pack when it comes to top tiers. Yeah. I'd say that, but old is really China. Exactly. So they're gold is significantly better than comparable gold's elsewhere. The diamonds, I would say middle of the road not not below average by any means. Let's put it this way, I wouldn't it wouldn't break my heart too much to fall from diamond as long as I caught myself at goals. Will they give a soft landing? I haven't tested that out. They actually introduced a nuanced type of they allow diamonds if you've had diamond for three years, and it doesn't have to be consecutive. You can actually go on hiatus for a year, and then reinstate yourself into diamond. So if you know you have a year coming up where you're going to take a sabbatical or you're just not going to be traveling as much. They'll let you put your status on hold, and then reinstated later. Interesting, interesting. Well Darren, you do know that part of the centurion card, you get free diamond status. That's fine. So all I need to do is spend twenty five hundred dollars to add you as an additional card holder, of course, never giving you the actual card because I don't trust you as far as I can throw you. Well. But you would get diamond, but you also could spend on credit cards. Let's pivot. Let's start with the lower tier cards which cards are for who. Yeah. So they offer several cards. But I'll just cut to the chase and say, I think the only one worth signing up for is the top tier Hilton aspire. The reason is a few fold one. The, the welcome bonus is higher than it's ever been that's really alluring. But the second is you get guaranteed diamond status. And if all that mattered to you was gold status. I'd say you just go get the mex- platinum the platinum is a better all around card. It can help you in more ways than just Hilton. And you get complimentary gold status there. So if you want go. I'd say sign up for the mex-, ply them in. You've got it. If diamond matters to you, the aspire card gives you complimentary diamond status and you don't have to spend anything. You don't have to stay any amount of nights. It's very rare for a car to just give top tier status. Unbridled. It's forever. Yeah. As long as you hold the card so you get diamond just for having the right now. Don't you think? That's going to dilute diamond for the, you know, people like you who in the past. I've actually stayed in the hotels. I wondered that. But you know how I think they can pull it off is that they have so many brands and so many properties that they're, they're Hilton loyalists are spread so far, that I, I don't actually worry about it being hyper concentrated, because even if you go to a DoubleTree middle of the road property, or an embassy suites, you can look for upgrades there. And there are a lot of Hilton loyalist that don't necessarily stay in the major urban centers where you're going to get the Conrad's. They appreciate it too. And there are perks that they can enjoy, especially with families that free right for Shirley adds up. So, you know, how much is the annual fee and how do you calculate the perks to, to make it worth it? Yes. So it's four fifty right now. It's easy to earn back. You get to fifty back on a Hilton resort anywhere in the world. And that includes the room rates and not just incidentals. So if you spend two nights at any Hilton resort, you automatically get to fifty back then there's an airline incidental for two fifty as well. So that's more. Than annual fees already more annual fee, and there's five or ten other perks that, of course, we've written about there's, there's seven huge perks, and that's just two of them. And you already make five hundred back for spending four fifty two no-brainer, oh. And you come away with diamond any final hacks or tips, for someone who's starting to stay more at Hilton. And it's no, I d about the program or any good redemptions that you've had specifically. So this might sound a little crazy, but one of the best ways to use the Hilton honors points program right now is to not use it on the most of aspirational of places. Instead, a cash at the aspirated places us a Hilton colbrad to earn a lot of points back. And then when you're on road trips or you're with your family, you're visiting grandma and non urban center the Hamptons, and the Doubletree's of the world are everywhere that the Conrad's aren't and the redemption rates, there are a lot more solid, so it's not as sexy to redeem for a Hampton inn, but the value is very, very high. And so if you tend to spend time. Time in places that aren't major urban centers. You can get a lot program. If you enjoyed that, quick, look into Hilton honors find the full episode where I interview Mark Weinstein their senior vice president and global head of customer engagement loyalty and partnerships in the talking points. Feed episode number four, Mark shares how the programs evolving and stacking up against its competitors. Next up. We've got our very own TV editor, Nick UN. His love for the world of Hyatt program is contagious. He explains why it has the best elite status out there. And shares is expert tips. You don't wanna miss. Let's just talk about high level high points. I think Marriott, and Starwood and Ritz have gotten all the attention this past year, but have been a lot of changes to the highest program. Why do you still love your high at points? Why think the best thing about the Hyatt program is, is really twofold, number one. They have really reasonable redemption rates. So their top tier Hyatt branded properties like the park Hyatt in New York or the park heightened beaver creek for any of our skiers out there are only required thirty thousand points for a free night, whereas other programs gets up to sixty thousand eighty five thousand ninety five thousand the other great thing about Hyatt is that they have no blackout dates policy that really has teeth, and if there is a standard room available for sale. The property is under the umbrella have to make that room available using points. So it's really kind of a win win where you have reasonable rates. But then any standard room that's available at on. A paid rate you can use your points for it in cash in points. Do you use that one possible? Or are you in all points reservation kinda guy, so I typically like to use all points? I will tell you that under the new points in cash redemption scheme that I don't really see myself, utilizing that it used to be a flat co pay along with half of the points required for a full free night. And they've since changed it to where it's now requires half of the points plus half of the paid rate. So it's not as much of a valuable tool to use anymore that being said, if someone is in earning a ton of high points, and they wanna just defray some of the cost of a stay it can still be a decent option under the right circumstances. It's just not something that can get you outsized value like it did before Scott and highest change about earning elite status now, based on cash in points, and points days, that was actually a really nice addition after they raise the require. For earning the different tiers of elite status when they shifted from high ical passport to world of Hiatt. It was nice for them to kind of catch up to the rest of the programs that already did count award nights towards elite status. So that was definitely a nice addition. So he has long as you are booking an eligible rate you're not going through a third party like that chase portal or Expedia or hotels dot com. You will earn elite credit for offer that night and, you know, you said you commended high because it's only thirty thousand points for top tier versus double triple down another programs. But let's talk about the earnings so earning on bass stays with high. You're not earning as many points as you are saying Hilton, or Mary, right? So is, is high truly more generous, because they offer lower redemptions. Or are they just giving you less points on the earn side as well? So that's a great point. And it absolutely is true that they are you do earn fewer points per dollar spent when you visit higher properties. I think the one of the big things that I personally. Love about Hiatt is the fact that they partner with chase ultimate rewards for one to one transfers. And that's a great way to quickly boost your account. You know, I have several ultimate rewards earning credit cards there, some of our favorites here at the point sky. So it's interesting to note that, yes, Mary out points. You earn more of them on stays, but you also transfer chase points to Marriott at a one-to-one rate. So it's really an easy way to your Hyatt balance. And the other nice thing is that high. It also does allow you to earn points on other things outside of high. It stays so dining experiences and some of their new partnerships, let's get into credit cards before we get into redemption. So earning points you mentioned I face off I reserve your three x points on travel and dining and then transferring those points too high it, I know I transferred them to park. Hyatt Maldives, it's only twenty five thousand points for thousand dollar room. You're easily getting four cents a point. You know, and when you're earning three points per dollar, it's a nice twelve percent rebate by using the sapphire. Reserve in transferring to Hyatt. For those luxury stays, but does it make sense to get the new world of high credit cards? And are they as lucrative as you know, the inks in the south fires of the world? So I think the, the world of high at credit card, the new version launched in the early part of twenty eighteen I think is great for a couple of different kind of groups of individuals the first of those who are trying to close elite status, gaps. I know when I was loyal to high it. I wasn't able to stay in Hyatt's eighty ninety one hundred nights a year because of their limited footprint and the nice thing is that the world of Hyatt credit card allows you through spending to close some of those gaps, where you get five elite nights just for having the card, and then for every five thousand dollars you spend on the card in a calendar year, you get another two nights of elite status credits. So that can really help. If you're close to explore us, or close to globalist to put you over the top the other thing that I love about the height credit card both the old version, as well as the new world of Hiatt credit card or the free nights certificates. Those are valid in category, one through four properties every time I received one of those who tickets, I've always gotten at least two hundred dollars worth of value. You get one of those every year another one after spending fifteen thousand dollars on the card. So I think those, those alone make the card really great option. The other thing I really like about it. If you don't currently have a sapphire preferred or sapphire reserve but you still wanna earn high points. The car has the most extensive bonus categories of any hotel credit card out there at a fitness, too, which I thought was really clever. He had that's actually very unique in the credit card market, which is really nice, but then you get in addition, a four points per dollar spent at Hyatt you get double points at restaurants, on airline tickets on transit, commuting and on fitness club and gym membership, so across fitter it. It's a great option for, for me when I'm you know, swiping that card every month for my monthly membership fee there. Soul cycle any of those clubs or memberships. It's a great. Option for that cool. So let's go into the redemption sides. You've got a boatload of chase points burning on hole in your pocket and, or Hyatt Brigham sue, how to redeem get the most value are their fifth night awards or there any of these weird hotel and air packages that other brands have had kinda give us the lay of the land when it comes time to redeem yes. So the nice thing about high it again, is that they have very reasonable redemption rates, their top tier park high properties thirty thousand points tonight. I've done that at the park Hyatt in Zurich when rates were seven hundred euros per night. One of the best values though, I found is actually, some of the lower tier properties so category. One is only five thousand points per night category to only eight thousand points per night. If you find some of those high place or Hite house, locations, if you're traveling with a families oftentimes, you can get a full apartment for five or eight thousand points per night. If the revenue rates are two or three hundred dollars that's phenomenal value for your, your bowl Europe, Hyatt point. So, you know, really. A lot of times we talk about those aspirated ones, but yeah, those lower ones are great. Are there any fifth nights free or wonky sort of package awards that people should know about so the height unfortunately doesn't do any type of a fifth night, free option? But one of the things that a lot of people don't know is high. It does allow you to actually transfer points freely to any other member in the program. You can only do it once every thirty days in the official restrictions are that it must be for a specific redemptions. You can't just say I'm gonna transfer a hundred thousand points and then leave them sitting in that other account for the next two years, it does, specifically say it must be for redemption. But that's very unique on. There are a couple of the programs that do allow kind that pooling, but the real nice thing this allows you to do is, if you friends with a globalist member, so one of our top contributors, Richard Kerr, huge Hiatt fan. He's been globalist since the new world of high program launched I could call him up. Say listen Richard, I wanna take my wife on an anniversary trip. Can I transfer some high points to you, and have you book at for me? Because then that invokes what high calls the guest of honor benefit, and then I get all of Richard's globalist perks, even though I'm actually the one staying oh doing. So this isn't. In a gray area where you're going to get tight. It's gonna shut down your account. If you do this, too many times, this is totally within the rules. Yeah, this is within the rules. It's once every thirty days, you also do this surprises people you have to actually submit a paper form. So you have to manually write it out scan it Email it or even fax it. And it does take six to eight weeks for actually process but not the ethics. We have you done this before. I have not actually taken advantage of it. I am looking ahead though towards you know, my wife's fortieth birthday, thinking about trying to plan one of those and Richard will definitely be getting a call for me so Richard if you're listening, definitely a get ready for that. You know you can also transfer high points to airlines. Do you recommend doing that? I generally don't the rates that you'll get when you transfer them are generally, not worth it. You're going to sacrifice a lot of value. You know we pay higher points at one point seven cents a piece. You're not transferring them at a one to one ratio. So I, I would definitely not recommend using them in that way. You generally get much more value using them for, for free nights or for upgrades as well. Another often overlooked option is if you are looking for an upgrade to a club room or to a sweet or to a premium sweet, you can actually do those on paid stays. So that's another great option. It's only three thousand points to go from paying for a regular room to get a club access at some of their a regency club locations around the world. That's another great option. So I definitely recommend that as opposed to transferring to airline partners got it. What your overall take on Hyatt's elite status? Is it worth going for in? Why would you think? That hiatt. Gloat. Would you make the case a high at globalist is the best top to your hotel elite set us out there? I certainly would I think there couple of really nice benefits that set it apart. The suite upgrade awards are really fantastic more valuable than any other similar awards in the hotel space where you can actually get four of those for reaching the qualification level for globalist. They've actually starting March first twenty nineteen they are going to be adjusting it to where you actually get two of those at fifty nine so even before you reach the globalist threshold, and then another two when you get to sixty nights, and those are valid on stays up to seven nights and length. So if you have four week long vacations at high at property, as globalist member, you can book regular room, and then use those suite upgrade awards to both that on this week paid stays or award is well paid and award stays as well as points in cash, and you can confirm them in advance, so no waiting until a week before five days before you can actually confirm them. If you book, six months in advance. You can call as soon as you have that reservation and lock in those sweet stays. You know, you're kind of selling me here, Nick, if I want to marry a platinum the hard way fit over one hundred nights, a year, Marriott has made some changes that have made me a little upset like a not being able to get multiple room night credit for elite status this high it allow you if if there's multiple if I'm gonna pay for three in my friends rooms do I get those points. In a league credit unfortunately. No. You do only get the one night of elite credit. You can earn points on up to three rooms, but it is just one night worth of a week credit. And, you know, before you go jumping into high it, you know, the biggest thing, the biggest drawback stay are taking steps to address this. But is there limited geographic coverage? They're still less than a thousand properties. Marriott is over sixty eight hundred Hilton has, I think at last count. Over six thousand. Under a thousand. Yeah. Now, adding the small luxury hotels, they're gradually integrating, those into the program. They're at I think, just over fifty right now they're over five hundred of those still, you know, a lot to come there. The two roads hospitals, you know, I think those are going to address, you know, some of the, those concerns, but it's just it's, it's challenging when you're looking at that limited geographic coverage to reach those sixty nights or to reach those thirty nights to get explorer status not everyone's gonna be able to do that. In general, the highest portfolio skews more luxury hotels. You know, whereas yes, Mary outs over six thousand with so many are more. You know what they call their select service brands. So would you say in general people want to go for that high at elite status? It's going to cost more than at other brands because most of the hotels are on the higher end of the spectrum. Yes, partly that. And then I think the other thing is just the general geographic reach, you know, Hyatt does have a large number of Hyatt place, properties, in kind of, you know, I don't wanna say less desirable, but not the biggest cities that, that are out there, but they don't come close to the reach of say a Hampton inn or Fairfield inn where you could find those properties on the side of an interstate in the middle of Nebraska whereas, you know, the only Hyatt place you know, in the area might be in a larger city. So I think that's the, the other thing is if you are someone of business traveler, who isn't always going to the same locations where you can count on a Hyatt location or high property. To stay at it may be challenging to reach those elite status qualification thresholds. Check out the world of high episode with Nick and here my full interview with Amy Weinberg VP of the world of high it program on episode number eight in the talking points feed. 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Some of those things can be appealing, but they come at a pretty hefty price, and you're buying a significant chunk of points directly from pick any of these major hotel chains at run timeshare companies to get those benefits. It's away from the try and get you to keep buying from them as opposed to using the resale market. That's interesting. So I've always been thinking of timeshares waste that get you in the build up that emotional high pitch, and you're locked in and then timeshare owners I always feel a very defensive. No, I didn't get swindled than it is a good deal, but it actually can be good deals, which are saying because you're a smart guy, you're, you know you can be. This gets back to if you looked at, you know, we posted in the G lounge, and we asked for our members to tell us what they thought and it was, it was the full mix bag, which I would expect there was some folks that said it was a complete scam. I didn't get what I expected all the way to we love it, it worked perfectly for us. So a good cross section of folks, and I guess, the, the ones that are happy with it probably did the research before they bought it buying a resale. Timeshare is is there are there really those big downsides. Like you're never going to get the full perks or whatever. Or would you I think it depends on? So Disney has done a pretty good job of, of segregating the perks, but in the other company, so using Windham as our example, as noted the, the biggest thing, you're going to lose their if you buy those points on on the secondary market. Those wouldn't count towards any VIP status that you might earn. But you need at least four hundred thousand points in the Wyndham program to have VIP service and to put that in context from. A financial standpoint that's an initial investment of sixty or seventy thousand dollars. That's a pretty big financial commitment for folks. And then you've got the maintenance fees on top of that. So I think you've got to be really into timeshare to invest that kind of money if you're just going to buy enough to have a vacation for a week every year, you're never going to get to the level of being VIP with Windham at four hundred thousand points. So it probably doesn't matter to most smart, folks, that are gonna by timeshare. Let's talk about the financial. So what are the key tranches of timeshare that initial investment, and in the other key things? People have to take into account if they're looking at it. Yes. So I've got some Windham examples. And so as a general rule of thumb, we can say that timeshare maintenance fees are going to go up about three percent a year, the typical Wyndham first time buyer is going to spend somewhere between twenty and thirty thousand dollars. And depending on where they spend those points that gets them a one week vacation somewhere across Wyndhams map, which is a huge map and. The benefit in buying from Windham. And that can be a one bedroom unit in much nicer property, or it could be a two bedroom unit in maybe a property. It's not quite as aspirational if you will. But if you wanted to stay at, you know, Whistler or one of the nicer properties and Hawaii, or things like that, that's probably going to be more, like a one bedroom real that you're buying a whereas, if you wanna stay in Tennessee, smoking, you can get a get a two bedroom unit and the flexibility that members have with these programs is they can decide to, they have a system called banking and borrowing where essentially, you have a bucket of points every year you can roll your point forward. You can roll your points back to give yourself a bigger pool. So if you wanna have a big family reunion, or you want the nicer room with a better sweet, all that same forego vacation, when you're too much nicer on the next you, can, you can also split up into much more trips you can just do long weekends. This gets back to making sure you're, you know, how you're going to use the unit one of RTP g. Lounge members actually said that they bought from Windham. And when they got home and started to go through the math of it, they realize that they normally do travel on long weekends. And when they looked at the charts the places that they wanted to go the numbers, just didn't make sense for them to do those short trips. They is it mostly. I know I hate travelling a certain destination. We're Saturday to Saturday. So is that the case with timeshare or does it depend? It's not necessarily that, but if you think about it, you know, has no in noted a lot of the reason why millennials are thinking about this because they're having kids and you don't necessarily go Saturday Saturday, but as you start to fold into the school schedules. Everybody's traveling the same time and so that can be some of the trouble with, with these resorts in the big mistake, we made when we first bought our timeshare was understanding that we bought because we want, you know, that gave us our longer booking windows, normally the way timeshares work wherever you are, quote, unquote homers, or is you get the book there sooner than everybody else, it's like, oh, well, that's really great. But I'm never going to book vacation thirteen months. I just don't do it. So from that standpoint got, like the last slim, Pickens. I guess this is what some people don't realize you need to think about how you're gonna use it. If you're starting to get stressed out. If you're not going to book thirteen months ahead of time, then where you buy your home resort doesn't really matter. If you're never going to book that far ahead having the, the advantage of book for his useless to you. You don't have any value for another thing, too, and then a nutcases, then does just make sense to buy points off of secondary market. If the wooden win actually has an interesting thing to, they have a program that I believe they call access where you don't necessarily have a quote unquote home resort. You're sort of spread out a bunch of a bunch of Homer's shorts so that could also be another path for folks, if they don't specifically want to get into one place. And they think if you're if you're going down the timeshare path in today's world, I think it should be use the entire suite of properties. They offer as opposed to always going to the same place. I mean, I don't think it makes sense to buy in and go to the same place every year. You're, you're paying a premium to get that variety. I think all right. So let's get back to it. So you pay upfront. Let's call it twenty five thousand or you know what your model has. And then what are the yearly fees? No mayday. Made it sound great. No, George resort as were flying high. But then there's actually are quite a bit of fee. So you pay this big chunk. Up front. Yeah. And so using those numbers at at, at around twenty five grand, you'd be paying about in today's dollars, you'd be paying about eight hundred dollars a year in fees. And if we say that that's going to go up three percent a year over the course of twenty years, you're going to spend about twenty thousand dollars in maintenance fees over the course of those, those first twenty years, you've spent twenty five thousand to buy ends. So you're all in for about forty five grand and under that scenario, you say if you took one week long vacation a year, you'd be spending twenty five hundred bucks a year or twenty two, fifty a year for, for that Bakke shin, which isn't horrible. These we knew we were getting a one bedroom, or two bedroom unit we'd say that's a great value. If we were staying some, some of the more aspirated destinations and getting the smaller units. Three hundred bucks night. You know, I think RTP members can do much better than that using their miles and points. So again, I think it's knowing what you're getting yourself into. And making sure that you can get the value out of timeshares should be more compared to Airbnb and vacation rentals. And they should hotels full-service hotels when you when you're looking at pricing. So really what I think is could you get a similar property at three hundred dollars on Airbnb. But what's the difference? Do stay Airbnb often in what would you? How would you describe the difference? Yeah. Don't stay Airbnb often. I'm I'm one of the few folks out there who still nervous about going to show up is there are actually going to be a room. Did the put a camera in my bedroom stuff? So I think actually, I think the Airbnb of the world have actually helped timeshares timeshares sit in between hotels and Airbnb. They're more structured version of Airbnb. You've got a front desk. You've got security. You've got a bunch of things that you don't necessarily have with an Airbnb doesn't. Mean Airbnb is a bad thing. But for somebody like me says, I don't really wanna leave at the chances, it's going to be there when I shot that stuff timeshares eliminate those elements you've got a dedicated room. You've got a reservation you know, as Noah said, the bonnet creek property that I went to down DisneyWorld, which is on Disney's property. They've got free parking, there's a front desk with me and twenty four hours a day. So, you know you obviously might be able to get cheaper and Airbnb. But you're getting a lot more in terms of like mitigating risk a lot more by staying in a timeshare your meeting risk. And then depending on where you're going, you're using that example, dentist on a creek, the property, has three or four pools, usually river, there's three or four restaurants. So there are other amenities that you wouldn't necessarily expect to get an Airbnb. So when we boy, strip it all down, so you're paying twenty five hundred week. Did we say? And is that really a great price? Can you get cheaper through other means that similar property on the second hand market every year? Like why lock yourself in give up a bunch of capital that you could invest elsewhere? For McCain from a cash standpoint, I think, you know, buying on the resale market can be a very smart path. Especially because there's a lot of there's a lot of legislation around how resale timeshares need to be sold. So those companies are regulated it's deeded timeshare, which means you're buying real estate. So it's governed by both timeshare law and retail real estate law. So you have protections in the companies that do this, the most reputable companies have great reputations. The time share episode with Ed end Noah Brodsky, the chief brand officer at Windham destinations is the number twelve in our feed. Thanks to Caroline, Margaret Ryan in everyone at checkout. All of our past episodes at the points guy dot com slash podcasts. And make sure you subscribe for free for all of the new ones that are about to drop for now. I'm Brian Kelly. The point sky safe travels.

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Steven Steinberg Pt. 1: The Murder of Elana Steinberg

Not Guilty

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Steven Steinberg Pt. 1: The Murder of Elana Steinberg

"The evening of May twenty seventh nineteen eighty-one was typical for Scottsdale Arizona warm dry and distant lightning coming the only hint that monsoon season was approaching the wealthy community of McCormick ranch. The streets were lined with beautiful tract homes and luxury injury cars neighbors looked out for each other in the Steinberg household on Via Duluth thirty seven year old. Stephen relaxed in the den watching watching late night TV his wife thirty four year old. Alana was already asleep in the master bedroom down the hall there to preteen daughters. Tracy and Sean secretly stayed up late excited over the last day of school coming up tracy went through her schoolbooks erasing any pencil insult mark. She'd left behind so she could turn them back in. It was an idyllic evening a familiar one before heading to bed himself. Stephen even slid open the glass patio doors in the master bedroom leading out into the backyard. He knew his wife liked the breeze and it was the perfect evening for it. There were no concerns over leaving doors open or unlocked in McCormick ranch crime. Especially violent crime was extremely low. Oh an olive Scottsdale and even more so in this quiet community but only a few moments after Stephen closed his eyes. Alana screamed in terror. Stephen snapped awake to intruders loomed over the couple. One of them held down his wife wife. The other brandished a ten inch butcher knife. How should we determine a person's guilt. Do we deferred the evidence discovered by police or the verdict reached by a jury and what happens when the evidence and the verdict don't line up hi I'm Vanessa Richardson and this is not guilty apar- cast original each each week we look at complicated criminal cases that test the limits of innocent until proven guilty you can find episodes of not guilty and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream not guilty for free on spotify just open the APP tap browse and type not guilty in the search bar this week were examining the nineteen eighty-one murder of Alana Steinberg. We'll walk through the immediate investigation into her murder and the problems in the Steinberg's marriage it brought to light will also see how police were able to make it arrest based on the very night of Alana's murder next week will follow the resulting criminal trial and understand how Alana's alleged killer presented resented a unique defense at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook facebook and Instagram at park cast and twitter at par cast network and if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review you were you're listening. It really does help us. A few streets away from the Steinberg household two police officers Kevin Chadwick and Paulette Kushida made their usual rounds in McCormick ranch. It was a simple almost boring boring job. Mostly consisting of uneventful patrols and the odd petty theft may twenty seventh Nineteen eighty-one started off as quietly as any other shift but suddenly at twelve. Oh Seven A. M. Nine one one dispatch received an unusual call. A panicked man screamed into the phone that his wife had been murdered by intruders a moment of silence then a young girl picked up the line sobbing and begging for help dispatch quickly directed Shadwick and Kushtia to the Steinberg House on Via Duluth the two officers. I had no idea what to expect and were decidedly on edge. Neither had any experience with violent crime. Let alone murder. The immediately felt out of their depth. When the officers arrived on the scene thirty seven year old Stephen Steinberg spilled out onto the lawn on barefoot wearing only a bathrobe his hand wrapped in a towel he shouted at the officers hysterically repeating that two intruders had stabbed his wife Alana before escaping out the back door officers Chadwick and Shutt- ordered him to wait outside drew their guns and entered the house inside. They heard children crying in a back room. Cautiously the two officers Thurs walked down the long hallway to the closed door of the master bedroom. They passed both of the Steinberg daughters rooms on the way but could only offer a passing word of comfort to Tracy and Sean as they continued on neither officer was sure of what to do except to keep approaching that closed door officer Chadwick felt in his gut whatever waited in the master bedroom would be devastating the look on Steven's Steven's face and the anguished cries from the two little girls had shaken him deeply even without violent crime experience. Chadwick knew they they were about to step into something ghastly when he pushed open the door his darkest fears were confirmed the master. Her bedroom was covered in blood. The walls the bed the mattress blood dripped off the bed covers and pulled onto the floor and and next to the bed twisted in the covers was thirty four year old Alana Steinberg dozens of vicious stab wounds covering in her petite body officer. Chadwick checked her pulse but knew there was no real need. Alana Steinberg was dead murdered where she slept. Chadwick and his partner quickly summoned the rest of the team to the crime scene. The house was thrown into chaos Assez. Nearly two dozen officers arrived at the Steinberg residents friends and neighbors crowded in the living room as well offering comfort to Stephen Stephen and his daughter's there was a lot of pressure on the Scottsdale. PD to get this investigation right the police were still reeling from the embarrassment recipient of Bungling a previous high profile murder investigation only a few years earlier popular television star Bob Crane was found murdered in his home bludgeoned with what investigators believed to be a camera tripod but Duda police contamination at the crime scene that destroyed Loyd evidence the case remained unsolved police were determined to do things differently moving forward and even recruited veteran officers. Here's to the force to better prepare them. If anything like the crane murder happened again one of those recruits forensic expert see so Kirk Kirk carefully worked the scene that the Steinberg House photographing the brutality and measuring everything he could on his order officers searchers scoured the home focusing on the master bedroom to see if they could find anything out of place fibers hair fingerprints as they documented the bedroom. The officers noticed something strange about the crime scene. Stephen told the police that Alana's murder was the result Zolt of a violent robbery. The violence was clear. Alana's body was brutalized and blood covered the walls but there wasn't visible evidence silence of a robbery of the entire master bedroom. Only a single item had been disturbed Alana's underwear drawer it struck a chord with lead detective Frank Hilton as well after seven years on the force. This was his first murder investigation serious and by by the books the same refrains running through every officer's mind. Were even stronger for him. Things like this don't happen in Scottsdale L. Let alone McCormick ranch. The Bob Crane case was an outlier. We don't have violent murders here. The cut on Steven's his hand was still bleeding so while they waited for an ambulance to arrive to take him to the Hospital Hilton took the grieving man's Statement Hilton to noted that Stephen was talkative but behaved erratically he swung back and forth between questioning his reality asking if his wife was really really gone to grieving the loss by slamming his head against the wall at one point he remarked. There goes fifteen years down the drain. Stephen described the burglars as two large white men with bushy hair and fake beards. The men apparently entered the master bedroom room through the sliding glass door he had opened before going to bed while holding the couple down they demand to know where the jewelry was but after Stephen even showed them. The burglars declared that the valuables weren't enough and that's when the man holding down Alana viciously attacked her stabbing her over and over while Stephen struggled to get free he had no explanation as to why the robbers had spared him the the only wound. Stephen suffered was the one on his hand the result of his attempts to stop the stabbing. It wasn't just detective Hilton who stomach turned upon hearing the story. All of Stevens family and friends were horrified when they gathered the scene. How could something like this happen happen in their neighborhood and how could something like this happened to the Steinberg's from the outside. They were perfect couple. Good looking successful full beautifully kept home. Well behaved daughters. What kind of monster would want to destroy that less than two hours. After the the initial nine one one call Kirk reported his early forensic findings to Detective Hilton. Alana Steinberg was stabbed twenty six times James Four of which were mortal injuries. Her wounds were anywhere from one to four inches deep. The knife had struck vital organs including the brain she had additional wounds on her hands and arms defensive wounds. Alana had attempted to Fight Back Against Tur- attacker upon hearing this Alana's mother edith erupted in grief she world on Stephen Shaming him for letting this happen happen. He was a strong healthy man. Did he even try to fight back to save Alana's life. Alana's brother Mitch Berated it'd Stephen for failing to protect his sister during the attack. Stephen could only feebly point to his injured hand as evidence. He'd tried to intervene. I mean the argument swelled going back and forth until Alana's father. Barney fainted detective Hilton not wanting to get sucked into the family drama assigned another officer to try and keep the peace in the living room and went back to work he sent pairs of police officers out into the neighborhood to patrol looking for anyone matching Stevens description of the burglars. Even Still Oh Hilton couldn't shake the feeling something was off about this case. The attackers hadn't left much evidence. No forced entry no footprints in the damp grass outside and none of the outdoor furniture or locked gates appeared to have been disturbed even the underwear drawer. The only the item out of place had been handled so gently. There wasn't any obvious evidence to be gleaned from it. Hilton slowly realised the difficult work they had cut out for them. Combating His rising concerns Hilton doubled down on the one thing holding his investigation together closely following procedure after Stephen left for the hospital at about two. Am Hilton made a crucial phone call. He contacted tactic. The County Attorney's office requesting the presence of a prosecutor on the scene. He reasoned that a prosecutor would be able to keep an eye on the police work and witness mistreatment to head off any procedural mistakes before they could happen any missteps here could later botch a trial and detective Hilton unplanned to avoid that if at all possible by three o'clock Deputy County Attorney Geoffrey Hawthorn arrived at the House on Via Duluth and while Hilton and his team up to this point felt like they had been doing their best at following the rules. Hoffa them immediately noticed a mistake while the master astor bedroom had been locked down the rest of the house had been contaminated by police allowing friends and family of the Steinberg's to wait in the living room pathum quickly stepped in trying to course correct the investigation wherever he could it could have easily been tug of war of Egos between Hawthorn and detective Steve Hilton but having the deputy attorney there actually helped Hilton shake some of his rising concerns Hilton and the other officers serve quickly brought them up to speed officer. Mark Burnett remarked that there was something not quite right with Stephen's demeanor labeling him as is passively hostile apparently Stephen had called officer Barnett expletive when he tried to calm him down officer. Chadwick agreed with Barnet's. Let's take on Stephen even going so far as to question the superficial wound on his hand. How had he escaped with such minor injuries while his wife was subject to such severe overkill by this time the police patrols Hilton had ordered began to lose steam. There seemed to be nothing nothing out of the ordinary elsewhere McCormick ranch which wasn't much of a surprise but Hilton knew that while McCormick Ranch and Scottsdale as a whole whole felt like a protected idyllic swath of high society life not everything could be picture perfect all the time and when in Alana's brother Mitch Singer approached the detective. His suspicions were confirmed. Mitch felt obligated to tell the police the truth about his his sister and her husband there was more going on in their marriage than the image of domestic bliss. They projected in his eyes. Stephen Steinberg Steinberg had been spiraling dangerously out of control for years coming up detective Hilton and deputy the Attorney Hawthorne realized that Stephen was in all kinds of trouble trouble that might be connected to his wife's murder. Do we like to think we're prepared for a catastrophe but time and time again mother nature proves us US wrong soon amies volcanoes tornadoes earthquakes. Each of these has the ability to not only kill but to wipe out entire are civilizations each week. The podcast original natural disasters focuses on moments in history. When the natural world turned deadly you'll learn how the most famous and devastating natural occurrences on the planet as well as more obscure natural catastrophes impacted the people of that region from the first recorded earthquake in ancient China to Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans natural disasters have plagued mankind for the entirety of our existence assistance. Whether the disaster took place then or now they all remind us that despite humanity's achievements we are no match for the fury story of Mother Nature. Listen and subscribe to natural disasters for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts or visit par cast dot com slash natural disasters to listen now now back to the story as detective. Frank Hilton was leading the murder investigation at the Steinberg House in the early morning hours of May Twenty Eighth Nineteen eighty-one he uncovered a clearer picture of the families dynamic after interrogating family members and Witnesses Hilton learned ended there was trouble in the Steinberg marriage. Stephen had a gambling problem. Alana's brother Mitch Singer divulge the troubled history story of Stephen and Alana's marriage to the detective for years Stevens Gambling Addiction had slowly spiraled out of control he had started did with card games rising to near professional levels when he was still a teenager he experienced multiple big wins and Mitch suspected these early awards set Stephen Down the path of his decaying addiction when he married Alana in nineteen sixty six. Stephen kept his gambling Ling somewhat under control betting only what the family could afford to lose. Alana didn't really mind at first having grown up around casual gambling a sometimes hobby of her father's but only a year later. Stephen experienced his first major loss while vacationing in Las Vegas. He lost so much money he hid it from Alana. This kicked off a losing streak. Stephen just couldn't seem to shake and with each loss us. He doubled down chasing that one big win that would finally turn his luck back around this is the nature of gambling addiction and once the high of winning shattered the gambler continues pursuing the win at all costs experts cautioned that once an addict experiences Sirius' that first streak of bad luck the disease progresses quickly and dangerously it often ends with the gambler in poverty in jail male or with his loved ones destroyed. Stephen Soon resorted to using bookies and even took out secret loans to hide his losses his and worsening addiction from Alana but even with all these evasive maneuvers he couldn't fool his wife she was diligent bookkeeper and and kept track of the family's finances Stevens gambling habit was well known to her and a deep point of contention in their marriage. She lamented to the mother and brother that she sometimes felt hopeless. In the face of his addiction. Mitch told Detective Hilton that Stevens bad luck extended past the card table. He couldn't seem to catch a break when it came to employment either after a series of career failures in Chicago the Steinberg family moved to Scottsdale in nineteen seventy five so stephen could go into business with his father-in-law Barney singer selling pool and patio supplies applies but after particularly slow period of sales that business went under as well Stephen Eventually approached Mitch to Find Work Mitch Singer was once prolific restaurant owner in Scottsdale with a number of locations but even after Mitch made Stephen the manager of one one of his restaurants the brass derby he continued to gamble sinking deeper into his bad luck by nineteen eighty thirty six six year old. Stephen was in debt to his brother the first Federal Bank and a handful of bookies to the tune of eight thousand five hundred dollars. It's over twenty six thousand dollars today. Unfortunately while Mitch had been successful in the restaurant industry for years he confessed to Hilton. A business took a downturn recently a few months before in early Nineteen eighty-one Mitch was forced to find a buyer for the Brass Derby and the buyer lawyer wanted Stephen Unknown gambling addict out of the picture after being forced out of the restaurant Stephen was jobless and stressed this pressure combined with the inability to shake his gambling losses took a toll on Stevens psyche as well as his personal life. He made a losing using bet on a basketball game sending himself an additional six thousand five hundred dollars further into debt at this point. Stephen snowed at least fifteen thousand dollars which would be nearly fifty thousand dollars in two thousand Nineteen Soon after Mitch noticed strange men visiting Stephen Alana's home demanding payment. Alana's mother Edith also noticed these men owing money to the bank is bad enough but Alana's family feared that Stephen was in deep with the wrong people edith told Detective Hilton tune that just a few weeks earlier she had received a panicked phone call from her daughter. Alana was in tears. The family was away on vacation in Tahoe. uh-huh and Alana and Stephen had gotten into a terrible argument when he tried to go to the Casino when a lawn demanded that he stay with the Family Stephen unturned violent he threw Alana against the wall then stormed out of the rented vacation House Alana had begged her mother for advice vice but edith had none to give she was too shocked by Stevens actions. When the family returned home the couple had reconciled old Alana forgave the out of character violence but in the following weeks she continued to express her worries about the family's finances and Dan Stevens refusal to seek help after hearing about Stevens Gambling Addiction and history of aggression toward his wife. Detective Hilton's perception of the case began to shift. He couldn't shake the feeling that Stevens unabated gambling ultimately had something to do with Alana's Alana's murder when Hilton pressed Mitch and Edith Singer for more details. He learned that this wasn't the first bizarre crime. Stephen was involved lived in he'd actually been the victim of robbery and attempted murder more than once in Nineteen sixty-nine twenty five five year old. Stephen was home alone one night when two burglars broke in tied him up and stole all of Alana's jewelry somehow he managed to escape his bonds and call the police but the robbers were never caught. Stephen filed a report with the Insurance Company and they paid out the claim for the jewelry a few years later. Stephen was the victim of a carjacking. Two men threatened him at gunpoint until he gave up his vehicle. Oh he escaped alive and unscathed. No one in the family knew the exact details of what happened because Stephen refused to go to the police ace wanting to put the event behind him. Edith confided to Hilton that on one occasion a hidden cache of money about two hundred dollars suddenly went missing from her kitchen. Stephen commiserated with her over the theft insisting it must have been the apartment buildings. Janitor and Edith was quick to agree. She trusted her charming caring son in law and took his word soon after someone stole all four thousand dollars from the cash register in Alana's father's business on a night when Stephen was working while the other business partners suspected Stephen Stephen was responsible Alana's father Barney would hear none of it again. The singers trusted their son-in-law and believed this series of thefts to be nothing more than coincidence and bad luck. Barney defended Stephen Straining his own business relationships in the process but the story that really caught Detective Hilton's attention had to do with Mitch's restaurant the Brass Derby during Stephen's tenure as the restaurant's restaurant's manager there were a handful of thefts from the cash registers and the vault always at that same restaurant and often when Stephen was was working and when Mitch Singer told detective Healton someone had stolen money from the brass Derby earlier that night eight mere hours before Alana's death the case took a definitive turn to crimes in the same night both connected acted Stephen Steinberg even though he no longer worked at the brass derby the theft was too coincidental a man like Stephen desperate in debt and having a deep history of erratic behavior it wasn't a far leap for Hilton to think he might have targeted a restaurant. He knew very well to help relieve some of his debts in addition. The robbery occurred the same day. Stephen picked up his first unemployment. Check a humiliating eating moment a meagre sum and a definite low point for any gambling addict detective Hilton and the rest of his team. Were now convinced that that Alana's murder was not the result of a random break in the stories of strange men coming around to press Stephen for payment likely the muscle for dangerous Angel Bookies and loan sharks turn Detective Hilton onto a new theory. Perhaps Alana's murder was committed in retaliation for Stevens ends debts. He may have tried to cover what he owed with the money stolen from the brass derby earlier that night but still came up. Short Hilton Hilton now suspected that Stephen lied about the nature of his wife's murder to hide the horrible truth that his gambling addiction led bookies cookies to order a hit on Alana what approached by Hilton Officers Chadwick and Barnett the first to arrive on the scene both made it clear they didn't by Stephen Story One bit officer. Chadwick just couldn't believe that a woman of Alana's stature just over five feet and only ninety pounds would be the focus of an attack carried out as part of a robbery two armed robbers wouldn't see her whereas a threat so why was she so viciously brutalized while Stephen only sustained a cut on his palm. The disparity between the two sets of of injuries just didn't make sense officer. Barnett pointed out that most of Alana's knife wounds were on her back and side and the mattress itself itself had been slashed the positioning of the wounds and the pattern of cuts on the mattress led him to believe that Alana wasn't killed by a robber looming over over her instead he believed her attacker was laying in bed with her and stabbed her in the back. Detective Hilton agreed that the nature nature of the stabbing didn't line up with Stephen Story. He said it was very vicious. Stabbing always is more so than using a gun aura club. It's what you see with rage. This kind of multiple stab wounds. It's overkill but pretty typical of people who know each other very yeah well. It shows hatred for a person why would such an attack an attack that pointed towards an intimate potentially toxic relationship relationship between attacker and victim happened during a random robbery. This also cast doubt on the bookie theory. It didn't account for the personal all nature of the Murder Hilton also noted that Alana hadn't died where she'd been attacked. She definitely been stabbed while laying in bed Ed as indicated by the pool of blood soaking through the center of the mattress but Alana's body was found on the floor tangled in the sheets indicating. Hating cheat attempted to run away but collapsed on the floor and blood out. If the events of the attack played out a Stephen had described and Alana Alana had been held down during the stabbing. When did she have a chance to sit up. Get out of bed and try to run in there earlier conversation sation. Stephen told Hilton that after the burglars fled he ran down the hall to his daughter Tracey's room and told her to call the police. When he came back to the master bedroom Alana had slid off the bed onto the floor. Detective Hilton now couldn't help but wonder why Stephen and hadn't just called nine one one himself and if he had truly been moving quickly giving orders to his daughter and then running back to the bedroom. Why was his voice the first one the nine one one operator heard Detective Hilton and Deputy Attorney Hawthorne Approach approach the forensics team leader Detective see-saw Kirk with their concerns that the murderer might have played out differently than Stephen described Kirk agreed greed there might be more to the story and expanded his search to the rest of the house. He focused on the master bathroom. Where Alana's underwear drawer was located. It was a dream bathroom typical of many of the beautiful high class homes and McCormick ranch part bath part closet part dressing room the two vanities were separated into his and hers as well as separate closet and drawers spaces as Sergeant Kirk explored Stephen side out of the dressing area he realized something was tucked behind the Vanity Mirror. He reached behind the glass and pulled out a handful of jewelry gold necklaces earrings. Even a diamond watch all neatly hidden according to forensic detective Kirk. We wondered wondered why the jewelry was piled over here tucked behind a mirror. It didn't fit with Stephen Steinberg story at all to Detective Hilton. It was a confirmation of his suspicions. This was anything but a random robbery coming up detective Hilton pursues his new lead and makes a shocking discovery that turns the entire investigation on its head now back back to the story in the early morning hours of May twenty eighth nineteen eighty one detective Frank Frank Hilton made a strange discovery that complicated the murder investigation at the Steinberg residents Stephen claimed robbers had broken in demanded handed their jewelry and stabbed Alana to death when they weren't satisfied by the hall but when Hilton's team discovered all of the Steinberg's this jewelry piled up behind the Mirror on Stevens Dresser that story no longer made sense instead detective Hilton believed moved this pointed to one thing a setup Alana's brother and mother had relayed a pattern of crimes involving Stephen to Hilton he he was picking up on similar. Themes thieves always seemed to strike when Stephen Owed Someone Money Hilton believed that Stephen might have staged robbery as he had done in the past but the full burglars had accidentally killed Alana in the process it was also possible that a disgruntled bookie had had enough of Stevens delays and ordered the murder to send the ultimate message either. Way Hilton firmly believed moved this killing was connected to Stevens growing debt. Hilton directed the forensics team to research the house for possible clues to fit this theory any physical evidence that Stephen and the family faced mortal danger due to his gambling or that Stephen had planned insurance heads fraud Britain threats records of secret debts insurance forms they opened every cupboard checked every drawer moved couch cushions and pillows but aside from the jewelry nothing was out of place other than Alana's underwear drawer. Detective Hilton was beginning to feel defeated like he and his team were coming back to the same clues over and over again. Alana's stab wounds the slashes in the bedspread and mattress the blood splatter the hidden jewelry the open patio door but when officer Burnett pointed out the underwear drawer again the entire team. Hilton especially couldn't help notice how bizarre that piece of the puzzle truly truly was the underwear drawer. The only thing disturbed during the supposed robbery had been gently opened and three pairs of underwear were neatly laid on the floor near the Open Patio Door Hilton realized the handling of the underwear drawer was for show further reinforcing forcing that this attack wasn't carried out the way Stephen described he had lied but detective Hilton wasn't sure why yet officers Barnett and Chadwick offered Hilton and educated guess their new theory did away with any complicated stories of setups and disgruntled loan sharks. They felt that given Stephen Steinberg's troubled past his debts the physical arguments he'd had with his wife and I'm the bizarre nature of the robbery. There was reason to suspect Stephen himself. Well Hilton quickly came around to this theory and educated. Guess wasn't enough to warrant and arrest. He needed more earlier in the night. Officers Barnett and Chadwick work had noticed drops of blood at the foot of the bed drops that didn't appear to connect to the pool of blood on the floor near Alana's body. It was the only only thing the crime scene team hadn't yet checked out the entire room was splattered with blood and a few errant drops didn't necessarily warrant warrant a second look but when Sergeant Kirk lifted the mattress detective Hilton found a shocking clue tucked under the bed. Ed Spring was a ten inch long blood-stained knife the murder weapon now four four hours after the initial nine one one call detective Frank Hilton was faced with two choices one he could follow the case as presented by Stephen Stephen Steinberg and continue the search for two bearded robbers or two he could reverse course and make stephen his main suspect affect from the outside. It may not have looked like a tough decision to make all the evidence seems to point toward Stephen rather than random robbers or disgruntled disgruntled bookies and now they had found the murder weapon stashed under the bed but detective Hilton knew he and his team. I needed to play their cards right or risk. Repeating the mistakes of the unsolved Bob Crane Murder Hilton had no interest in being the reason a killer alerts would walk free. He returned to see so kirk if they could prove the murder weapon came from the Steinberg's own kitchen it would cast serious doubt on Stevens Burglar Story. The Steinberg home was built in a horseshoe shape and the kitchen and master bedroom were on either end sixty six feet apart. If the knife came from the kitchen the robbers would have had to have snuck in through the sliding glass door without Alana Donna or Stephen Waking Up then one or both of the men would have had to walk the sixty six feet to the kitchen find the perfect knife for the job. Bob and then walk all the way back without disturbing anyone in the family after the stabbing the intruders would have had to lift the mattress and box spring and stash the knife before escaping into the night it was elaborate would seemed far more plausible to Detective Hilton and is that Stephen himself at a breaking point from his gambling his debt and his strained marriage made the walk to the kitchen found the knife if he knew was there used it to murder his wife and hid the murder weapon under the mattress as Kirk listened to Hilton's theory and looked the bloodied knife he realized it likely belonged to a carving set meaning. It would have one or more matching utensils to go along with it. Sergeant Sergeant Kirk remarked. There's a fork for this. I know it it only took Hilton and Kirk few minutes in the kitchen to find what they were looking four in one of Alana's perfectly organized drawers laid carving fork that matched the murder weapon exactly and next to it did the empty spot where the knife should have been detective Hilton had his evidence but another thing jumped out at Detective Hilton about the Steinberg's Kachin. It was immaculate not just clean it was organized with obsessive detail author Shirley Early Fron Dwarf described in her book death of a Jewish American princess that it's common for wives of compulsive gamblers to throw themselves into housework intense housekeeping help. These women retain a sense of control. It offers a distraction from family chaos. If there were any doubts before for that Stephen had plunged his entire family into the dangerous pit of gambling addiction and insurmountable debt the state of Alana's gorgeous. His kitchen squashed them entirely confident that the murder weapon came from the Steinberg's kitchen detective Hilton decided that that it was time to re question Stephen However he was still at the hospital having his hand stitched up he called his partner Detective Chris Bingham who had escorted Stephen in the ambulance. Hilton asked Bingham to question Stephen about the nature of the attack one more time Bingham obliged lied he reported to Detective Hilton. He says the two men had plastic gloves on and the knife must have been long because he put his hand on it underneath underneath. There's he sticking to the story that the men came in the back and wanted jewelry at five o'clock in the morning. Detective Hilton believed he knew without a doubt who murdered Alana Steinberg after all of the hard work. He and his team had done the meticulous rule. Oh following the determination to do things by the books and avoid repeating past mistakes Hilton had his man he immediately you told Detective Bingham he'd come down to the station for one final interview with Stephen and then formally charged him with the crime once Stephen was discharged. Detective Bingham took him across the street to the station to begin his final interview. The officers couldn't help but notice how composed and together Stephen seemed he wasn't trying to avoid the questions or active. Vassily Hilton asked Stephen to take him through the story again and Steven was happy to oblige earlier in the evening. Stephen had played softball game bringing along his six year old daughter daughter. Sean Alana had gone to twelve year old Tracy's flute concert at school. The family met back at home and Alana. Tracy and Sean were in bed by ten PM before falling asleep. Alana asked Stephen to open the sliding door to let the breeze in Stephen then retired to the spare room for his usual routine and watched a few episodes of late night television. It was just after eleven thirty pm when he finally joined Alana Lana in bed the next thing he knew his wife was screaming and there were two falsely bearded men bending over them. The police already Eddie New the rest. The detectives listened closely Stephen Story when he was finished. Detective Hilton dropped the bomb. Stephen was was under arrest for the murder of his wife Alana Steinberg and for the first time during that interview Steven was shaken. His entire tire cool demeanor changed and he started trembling telling detectives. I can't believe this is happening to me. He immediately asked for a lawyer earlier by five thirty. In the morning. On May twenty eighth the crime scene team at the Steinberg's had left finished with the night's work but the family family waited no one told them that Stephen had been arrested for Alana's murder and they still believed the story about the two robbers even even with all the strange circumstances surrounding Alana's death. They had not yet come to suspect that Stephen might be responsible every time a crime. I am happened to Steven. The family was quick to believe him. He was charming and had an answer for everything. They accepted his story about the bearded robbers. Just as eight accepted every story he'd told before any other theory felt difficult to believe but the entire family would soon be forced to face the ugly truth behind the man they all knew and loved. Thanks again for listening to not guilty. We'll be back Thursday with our next episode on Stephen. 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EP122: A Dinner Date with Sophia Hilton

How To Cut It in the Hairdressing Industry

1:00:23 hr | 1 year ago

EP122: A Dinner Date with Sophia Hilton

"This is how to cut it in the hedging industry podcast with Severe Healton Episode One hundred and twenty two to how to cut it in the head Jesse Industry podcast that gives you the insights. Inspirations the show that gives you the insights inspiration and information to take your hairdressing and Bob Laws I rocked up her house in London and we sat down and we had the most wonderful evening I just loved her company says just thank you what have absolute thrill to be in your pad well this is madness isn't it yet we are having as glass of red wine also knows where the questions that Sophia put to me but also she gets an exclusive from because I think innocent view the I haven't announced then lovely company. I really really thankful for so fear for doing this today so we're going to get into this episode Sophia Hilton into your myself for the how to cut it area to the next level how bloody good you'd Never Guess Sophie Hilton's pad my goal my life is now complete warmth old away with Sophia and we sat down over dinner and a glass of wine she interviewed me and this is that interview that you're going to hear today we're GONNA learn about pitcher the scene is me and Sophia sat down Mike's in hand glass of wine overheard on table talk and and having cost I hope you enjoy as much as I enjoyed being interviewed for it hey hey dom welcome to the house it cuts it podcast and in biggest name in hairdressing and rightly so she's mega. Her company was mega her Spaghetti Bowl Anees was mega so and it's GonNa be in this episode to stay tuned as I said about halfway through we talk about hair clip live and it sank the I wanted to announce on this podcast just say on behalf of the whole industry we are so grateful of everything you've done with these podcast and that's why I wanted to interview you today and it felt so fit into announce in this podcast with Sophia Hilton interview may who mind is most excited turn and this episode is really really special because a couple of weeks ago I was invited by Sofia to go to her house in dogs as I felt that this was the place of I felt you guys as my listeners my community people I value so so much would ones who I I wanted to know about it I me and what is set me off on my path to do the podcast what it means subdued podcasts and what is I want you to get out of these awards and she said look dumb we need to know more about you what is it that you do in what is it about the poss- well as a beautiful hostess that she I really want you all to hear this question that she asked me she asked me think about hecklers lives so there is going to be a bit of an exclusive for the very first time we're just talking a little bit loosely beforehand world we were saying about pivot and so much comes from your childhood tell us about that what does that mean in London and have dinner with her because she wants to interview me for the House podcasts he reached out to me a judging day at the prestigious impatient yes I am imaginative guy always wars I wasn't the smartest at school I kind of struggle but always had an imagination and imagination of I don't know how good I am on this who give it a go okay so let's start with why when did it come about what happened where did it come about in this do they said that he's a you are here in Sofia gene in my shirt spaghetti bowl is it would it would go in the wrong direction and but yeah this is nice it's lovely and done on just one the kind of thing so much of that came from that side she have been a conduit I actually love bringing people to the forefront yeah there was a few in America burt that were poor I mean I'm not music I think about nine now listen but as the there are talk about and I ticked all my box because of content I love listening to conversation and I looked at my phone two thousand and thirteen that's ninety of a podcast that little purple icon was their podcasts. I take your fancy I'd done an interview about a year and a half ago which aims just lightly taught and what I saw you at the Yup we're going to put on a St Olympics in my cody slack sack in Obelisk Roy's in Northampton at one everybody there but I also loved comedy sleep sorry but yeah I don't know enough about you or where they started so that's really what I want to do today to explain to people what our podcast was a battle you know so many people were Wasa podcast Labatt so that was hard part again he came by and obviously you I reached out to you episode number six it was so yeah just wished our and I got in touch and everybody was really inspirations because I then learned all about podcast in Flim so you got Ryan WanNa do podcast and you start calling people up is it pretty dress in business awards wasn't it and you mentioned that Oh it's a non brainer there's one person my most downloaded talk I feel that time they feel time when you walk in around in your kitchen you could be sitting there's a place for everything but I think podcast loved that whole part of Y- you bring the stars on the show and you talk to them after the game your did you perform today yeah well at them well so but doing heckler was really from the that gave me the opportunity you gave me enough clout for the people that aren't met takes up huge amounts of my time but I love doing it more than anything else so yet when I sat down new is going to be a long journey and I'm only est as I wanted to find out will you who's dawn who has done who'll I'll tell you it's GonNa go to hear your voice in my look what was the most challenging well I think again a good question I think the challenging parts for me would have been a start youtube was invented for the challenging part now is just combined in my life in your I have I do every part of it us guys as well so fear to honesty it's it blows my mind being the C can be anybody better so well for once you're the star of the show ooh I've mentioned any night on phenomenon in all honesty production everything from show knows the website I asked myself the same question but I do outsourcing it I think everybody has been lovely as a whole I have had one diva moment I won't reveal it the Heck Lamar Tom Connell was my very first guest and I got to know Tom who's the artistic director hedge traverse will be so that's where and I think it was a learning process for me because I like conversations to be very natural oil west this is perfect for this how I like it to be it's my voice and I want to be in control of what I do and you know I don't want I don't want somebody editing out bits on at the time it was yeah it was yeah nobody was doing them accountable actually why not and when I started it though yes get my head around it are s s feeds getting uploaded all that you know somebody that I had no clue whatsoever but that's what well you know it's a question I have been asked quite a few times now people have said look I'd love to interview and I kind of Ah I have no plans at the moment right funny question now names any Davis anyone challenging growth the disagreement with a particular person out they could add out and I may be my naive it's people share it may suffer from I tend to be so busy all the time support cast a perfect for me steal too much time from you can just do stuff you can I God I knew why I wanted you to interview me good question did I had big dreams yeah I think I did just melt motto is American and it's fine and now we have a law American listeners please don't be offended got better there are some big Americans shows now person that you could meet but sometimes what I found in the early part there were people maybe they used as an opportunity may be too if there was a bit alike arguments but I don't agree with everything and there's lots of things I disagree with but that the podcast argue just fill that void and applied sale was being really busy and on all day I was here and there but it wasn't it was complete lazy time and it was pat's Lynn it was him he was one of my I like it when people become very open and the guard goes down am not there to judge people had none whatsoever are the least judgmental talent so I'm going to sit here not too time consuming to think it's just going to be a little hobby because it's not yes incredibly hard there for my opinions I'm there to bring their opinions and I may agree or disagree and and these China they're all things and you always lovely and that's lovely but it must be challenging for you sometimes you'll have someone saying to me something right now that was really boo site that I don't always agree with and I will maybe put it in a way I'm there for the audience yeah I've had I can't afford to do that is a lot of money I don't have that financial plan actually happy come to come to connected to it I was like similar amount of similar him sheets too short but he he had made to just think he's brilliant refreshing and he said stuff and I think there were people there that disagreed I always say to people I don't want to be we sat down in a boozer or coffeehouse over dinner so I tend to be very natural in the compensation and sometimes and again I keep saying great question really good question and I enclosed actually naturally quite an opinionated person are like opinions and not because she will do some recent episode one hundred and nine thousand nine Sean I love you Dourson because he's a man I actually comments I was but we went for it did you have any expectations of the show did you think oh this could be massive got big dreams so many many messages from people now the it just that's what if you ask something in particular certain opinion and it doesn't Su are the Harris conflict last interview just bloodied hit and now you're not going to disagree with the interview but it does he put you in position times really hard position we come from so I was allow says I was on holiday and I had a phone call right some wasn't happening this you'll giving people a platform to talk about their opinions you get half an hour or Janai Watt I wouldn't say I've ever had somebody who said hundred percent yeah yeah I think when you get those I like all kinds of stuff I mean sometimes you have to juicy left both good and there were there were kind of things so yeah I kind of hope but I understand Judea Georgia Adel Georgia always Georgia always go Georgia Georgia was Sally Sally maybe doubts it now my mind I'm like don't get it you'd have been loving it and we will talk in just united we do addresses the things that are not so good and minds but old whole experience during the s that you didn't expect Severe Hilton Show I tell you need it I've got opinions this is really hard somebody who's got strong opinions you're episode was brilliant I loved when episodes sixty six you came on and he has probably might with him there and there will be people but that's good isn't it oh I'm dying to listen to what he talks about young headdresses and it is you know I think for show and she find an APP at them I gig to podcast in y'all wasn't a technical wizard I but I was tuning into about two thousand by hand on heart feel I was ever a salon owner okay and so therefore for me Ah do your job yet has been low in here sitting here in your lovely pad lovely tiny but had staff at one time where we had a roundabout thirteen stuyvesant just a never felt that was really where I wanted to go therefore I dunno really really crazy where where you go in your journey I got the impression early on further from the earlier interviews and I get beat up Obama's sometimes because I could've gone down they the whole get my Salam bigger had the biggest island but and I still have a Salam I don regardless of as a solemn but I have a shop in a tiny village in Brixworth in Northamptonshire can't believe you said that they may disagree with what we're actually talking about battalion may not agree with the subject sure won't MoD me sane all of Allen Austin as well and we sat around lunchtime we went out saw shoeless Joe Cheer Cheer Always House I would certainly say from the people that get in touch and thank you to each and every listener that ever gets in touch with me I've had an you must get them hugh view just got this idea hadn't really been done before haven't been done before in the ideas in addition and the UK was in the UK then it can be too intense each week sometimes you just soften it down you think our audience is buoyed is there anything he's a question for you is if anything that's come out hi Paul into that journey okay and what's been the most challenging about the whole process like have you ever been like Hilton was reading I haven't even interview me is Balmy been invited to speak talk into Trevor Sowerby Eugene Soliman Angie Address I'm not creatively brilliant hairdresser I'm not the greatest business but but I am very very proud of the industry and I get really embarrassed by the way the anybody and the reason that came about so if I go bit off piece but we went on a tour to the fantastic hairdresser Alan Austin invite me people to know I just want people to know when they work in Ceylon tirelessly heart talking all day long is hard isn't it there's no but we love it I get angry with us as an industry sometimes I still believe there's so many opportunities so many diverse ways and I'm not just we are portrayed as an industry and are genuinely may not get as I get honestly it makes me so angry how we get portrayed time I think we cut here in may be from hairdresser not particularly that group are young headdresses that don't do this don't do it this way and sean sort of Cetera et Cetera. I wanted that place but yeah I think it's the journey that journey I love the journey sorry beautiful you know what a made no the journey is but the have to know that there are outlets of different routes in our industry because I hear you and when I'm listening to I hear you really shouting out those head her long don't we we we're all in the circle and we were the conversation was brilliant if you're in there as well you've been lean and they kind of came and it just like I should had just put cost more or less I was on holiday in Rhode amounts when people say how you've helped and got them excited or reconnected yes I do that's exactly what the reason ha yeah I had I hope we shock juicy is my mom my Nan my great man oh headdresses right and so therefore I am really connected to the industry I'm not the grace adjusting the chair during the little thing and you always say you know if you WANNA use the industry for that that's amazing but here's something else she can do and you're always showing them something different a you have you ever and information to take you to the next level and as your host dome is it one big driving forces is trying to get people in the industry and all about training and stuff like that is that something you think you've achieved is it helping who more than anything else I am a full generation hairdresser the mall life has been hairdresser naturally want to be hairdresser I'm not GonNa lie it is part of this like a passion of like just let people know that they could step out that box is that what it is and and ever annoying you give them a break so that was so he's not perfect so it's a good one he voices opinions I love it I love proudly since you because you were so opening you've got strong opinions Lee Stafford opinions but his Christ juicy ones then yes in about the standard session artist you can work in film you can work there are so many things that the media digital the and that's what I want seminar all these is getting invited press of God Heaven Forbid did I ever expect that did expect to in time it's what I wanted what is it if you like come on guys there is more to this yes I tell you that feels that from Boston absolutely spot on and I get really annoyed off headdress and his great and my wife is a nine to five and she'll be listening to this and you know I probably when if I'm being open and honest as if you said to most hairdressers now who are college hoops you know what and that is amazing that's great because actually you are for me the role model for today's generation but they need to know about particularly when it comes to students and colleges I feel my place is I want if you could say to anything I could do I would love to go into more but I think we can't let that hold back a generation of people to not think there is more out there and I get the great commission so you just turn and you turn but the problem is you you deal so good that you won't stop out of that you won't drop days both they'll take cash that will take cash and but so many headdresses will sit there and say well that's all I care about is an a word food our life so much more competitions awards show work film work it doesn't matter I always say you can achieve any of that if you want to be the grace just doing the best that you possibly can but it's probably add that one hundred ninety five actually a big percentage of them have no interest in hairdresser allege and talk to two hundred hairdressing students and site turn right probably you two hundred s five view and actually kills me when you get like a twenty one year old could just kind of running their own business churning turning good money because that's it the ruined then because I'll not take the option of really interested in the you want to go off and do amazing things you WanNa you WanNa work at not SALOM YOU WANNA be really might make you happy there's all these things that could make you happy or they might make you lose money in the short term but not in the long-term but once that happened death by Manet it's just you know you get the point you rent a chair somewhere you kind of by yourself you might not be an environment where there's a lot going on but Ludi good stylists in this along in their area and I always say somewhere completely of random berry goes let's come to you and that booed and they want to learn why is it that they want to become is it about being a during the world you can be the greatest footballer in the world but you have to have to have to have to work Saad I talked about took US hairdressers down but I think a lot of hairdressers may be I don't think we were maybe the academics at school because actually that's us with the Libyan and that's happy and I think there are lots of hairdressers every day do that and love that an just don't want to be any then earning good money true yeah but you WanNa go home at the end of the day and just be really proud of something you did agree I tuck to go and do something crazy because you don't get paid for it you won't put a more creative something in your column because you'll lose money but you say lose off of them adjust doing job but then this is like kind of thirty percent in the middle that potentially could they could be doing other things they have in them they have the ability they just need you know how could it podcast listen to talk about it so I don't know about US walk in in the industry a bit like it was in the ninety s nine hundred zero I leased Stafford I think most would actually know if you earning yeah and a big percentage Kirsch then I teach ones just bought out their brains what board because they won't take it eh nobody does it better than you it makes you feel it God done it gives you a real purpose and I think we are those kind of creatures kind of lifestyle wave I'd have a hairdresser because they can communicate and that's the thing we are we sometimes let Johnny Sketchy when I interviewed lot of addresses could be I if we're being really stick I think a lot of us may be did struggle to find our place school generally is that what it's matters to them and it's about being that creativity and titan kin into the solemn but ultimately why did I want that is about Josh job fallen into but actually I think we can capture so many more of those another percentage though you know that Elliot describe my clients as friendly strangers they come into my life for a every week I see them or six weeks or however then they go off and they go off into their their world for eight weeks and you have no connection so that world that's why I think clients we like Mrs so and so and I'm always come on but it's hard and it is hard because you become emotionally connected to your clients him you know be proud of being a hairdresser you know the outfit so right what he says and we all honesty incredible but we're not maybe all of us mix and therefore we go into hairdressing and I think maybe because we struggle to find our place when we're younger we may be not the front of the class the paint get a little gain so when we say we're sorry excuse me when you get these indicating with people than addresses and actually upset in previous podcast if I was employee and I wanted somebody go out and talk to customers on every different this is the most social people the honestly you could ever find I don't think there's anybody better a commute the stuff going on in their life and I think that is massive so therefore when it comes to prices is hard because you do to yourself all when's if yes I have so far I've done a podcast series four while a professional they got into me guys if you want to check that out I interviewed the do need a bit of a little bit of you you good but because of connection hairdresser do all sorts of things like refused to put their prices up because the you had the support of sponsorship from scrimmage towels and Akito Scissors yes one hundred percent I'm not shying amid I want to make money not just on the back of the on the podcast itself but in anything else that I could do because I'm passionate about it is what I wanted in combat and I'm GonNa lose that person so it is difficult and an annot true business experts gets for if you get that buzz but this is always a thing is in what what way we self esteem self esteem and I think a lot of people in the up again so therefore the hairdressing and suddenly having clients and so you are just the best a love a love the way you do I operating because it's an authentic conversation is brand heavy we're talking about IT products but it's still given the brilliant content and I've also but I wanNA start just briefly go through who you are in the hedging industry how did you come into it what she's story right so you win Robert Eaton and Maya Foreign Lee which was paid per much podcast brilliant and our mindset myself here brands if you are listening to this from my perspective you one hundred percent should be getting paid for work you too so you should have no guilty during this conversation lanterns compensation thank you for asking I'm glad you asked me that question because yeah Intensive conversation that I felt like I was GonNa have to have with you and why should it be that way won't be that way we shouldn't feel embarrassed on Saturday Yeah Mrs Jones so float Soleil but that's the difference in the ones that are anymore unless it is it is happiness as there's gold for your business outland I can remember I sat down with my family they'll probably concerned what I was GonNa do actually I was going to I wanted to be a train driver believe it or not Jesulin Dino and there's nothing hey if the world was full of academics Taiwan beat up a look ahead often they regard their hairdresser as really good friend and that's why you know people say how bad they told you everything I do I do it because you recite almost come from row so my journey into hairdressing began as a fourteen yeah well how was that ten member we'd done the flop and it was called goldilocks cries goldilocks yet because my mom had okay you got good waiting list price up temperate when you make them up by ten percent you lose tem satellite-based but it doesn't matter because you just made more money absolutely then when you get full books again you by everybody said to you before seventeen hours of my life but it's is huge amounts of my life and absolutely right yep no problem at all you doing this sat down we like we are now friends of the family and you know that conversation comes up what you can do dominate Denver have you ever thought about hairdresser in my answer was no my my memories of hairdressing was my mom do in mobile she worked in Malta Spencer's in their hairdressing for staff member hairspray was it is all my mom working so hard so hard like probably Hendrix who see in you work in replace your and our overuse the word counselor because I hate bill counselors but in lots of ways we are soundboard we're a soundboard for the remember childcare going around with my mom she was blow drying hair in the nineteen seventies I was just thinking this is like taking so long been half out but it felt the station and there was a seat that was put into my head and I remember it so well and a member thinking to myself and I'm not I absolutely loved trains and God knows I still love trains how with that and I think my parents must've thought Oh my goodness you've got a little bit more than I would along they sit in my chair and my greatest friend and they actually when I have a big party I'm always thinking what I want all my clients because but that's and you know what Tom you can leave us in Texas L. ALL WE GONNA be making some money from college and let's not begun to happen now and by the way sending Oh gosh not want to be paid for I love what I do and Don Charge anybody felicity podcasts and you know I that I saw an international trip if you haven't been silent as national for Christ sake ago or any big industry thing blows on international I would still say as I wandered around there and I just got the industry was just love Lima this is so cool I was obsessed by the industry I was Geeky Christian I started reading the certainly looks and cut this looks all right there's always newsy stuff and a little this new then there were these things aw man Cyrus is you know he's in his eighties and he couldn't quite remember who I am still call them all the hey from what does he come from Cambridge just for short back and sides ratio ripoffs seventy quit like sixty s and so I feel like we've done this in a really weird odom but we're going to talk anyway so we've gone from actually doing the show and everything that comes with it so hard I'd come home at ten o'clock and I'm just thinking what do we do as from Hamburg so no hairdressing was completely or does he come to ships relationships he say about feeling comfortable isn't it so we've got an offer that but that's why we know I'm going to bring you back yes to like you've got here that was kind of what I remember it wasn't the best fundamentally though absolutely hated it I hated I hope and I was and I'm really proud of it I was the first school lever that I took home they didn't take I didn't school take a look and then my mom opened up a salon in nineteen eighty and I was Yama Sabine Open at my mom's house doing Saturday work in goldilocks shampoo and sets troy is rather light and again our went off Mama the time to close show just started Salinas Scott Jeff banks and and Trevor Sue will be done a program called hair it was just it was back home is Northampton that's where I grew up some more I'm Linda Roland as we moved out we moved to so the dual travel Soobee logo on the Front God man I was so excited we'd like you to comfort into into what's the uppercut the name nearby Rural Opera House is now a starbucks piazza went for the interview yet went back and offered cates I didn't even know what the educators but I remember just thinking God and that was it and yeah go into then row on the back of that then got really into it and contact so you said you must call the man used to read the Bible Deluxe to the free oh he seems really cool I wanna work for Trevor Syllabi and that's what happened and I wrote a letter the letter was written it was them and My good friend Judy I've just as exotic as Trevor Syllabi and and I went in a weather previous location was remember so well tails and trees I just felt I don't really feel the I felt learned as much as I love London I spent so much time here because always agree it to a five year old if you get it on the near the Old Lady I remember being kitchens we'll Ville boy and lasted about seven months trevor will be it was intense bad back nuys seriously blue so it's not like a US it's still amazing is full of hairdressers it's full of trade stands it's full of people doing demos it's just odd just member fee I want to be best best blow to be a training for it was a nice surgical guy and he before we gone done all it but everybody passed away recently at that time nine hundred eighty six press cancer surely bless his soul and said we're GONNA stay with John Richard Walk Oh God I saw regretted some ways not regret so I started their nineteen eighty six come away it was I was homesick if you were GonNa work at Trevor Sloppy you had to be a stylist and you had to go back into a year so I and but but then went back and this is about nine thousand nine hundred eighty four and I picked up nine hundred ninety three pizza hairdresser journals mom had tweets guest episode one hundred and twenty-one GonNa listen to that and he was massive inspiration for us when often data that so yes and yeah and then I went and then the job came up in November did it won't go through the whole were there briefly clive or Roy his last every Saturday came by an member thinking I just need to go home again not get on the train Houston go back to North Hampton and as soon as I saw is a wonderful hardworking hairdresser and she just loves doing what she does she has no ambitions to be anything more in research yeah cool I remember our waste if the two weeks and the gray envelope I'm visualizing the great envelope came Super Trevor Civil war awaken in that was the ladies and it's time I felt like a bit of is cool I looked it's brilliant. He looked after so well but there was a trainee there Gosh Yeah She was evil I really sticking podcast so worked in Golden Hawks let me just catch catch me up a little bit closer to the present Wilton Golden Arcs qualified there then Sunday afternoon two o'clock half hour program and he members and eat have Charlie Miller and Robert Look better on there and I think because Chavez will be there's this thing called Ceylon international what's that and then I went off salon international of cool nineteen eighty four by the San Luca Plus News mentioned apply in college and then stayed there we stayed there for about a year okay she she's listening you evil horrible so in the end I went back to mom's briefly just you only ladd and it was just it was really dark they lived in Wetstein torridge loved them Simul which people in our member J I just felt then a job position came with graphic Ghani which is like bizarre but again we're going to sixteen and and I know looking back at it this is really good for me talk back actually ever talk about it and we don't care if this can be longest one is being used on working bollocks off slow over do it all the time in Tokyo was it like almost worked so hard I absolutely but we had the AH sorry guys that's GonNa have to listen to it a I went to stay with friends mom's best friend but she had adviser it's going to be there's going to be young people listening end have done exactly that they've gone that way or that way on that exhibit pivoting moments yes yeah mepham per person it's all plan member thinking that I was a boy's boy you know I played football I played that's what you'd think yeah many stars with Genoa trayful sally no Internet knock Eugene Salima he was the I hope he does it he looks Iris we love you machine it's just not possible but why why watching Kurt and he just cut hair and you can't see a cut in because it was all scissor over coconut said that an nineteen eighty nine nineteen twenty and what we have sounds all right basically was touring around the UK they wanted the group Jeff hairstylists who we're GONNA go on stage in boots and shopping said I'd love that was the best job I ever right I'm just GONNA ask you a couple of things now as I've ever been a point through your Korea the wanted to quit yet that was there's been many times but you know what I find ways of reconnecting with it as Allan Allan Austin will always say getting engaged again I grew suddenly went and had to be ruthless my mom's goldilocks client I said mom just the shampoos and sets eighty five. She's still doing this she's she's amazing she still loves it so there you go listeners hairdressing lifetime they ain't making the money yeah then and so they hated me they'll people have northamptonshire dom was anymore and but yeah it it can become harder becomes and we evolve as people which changes people you know I've got to be honest remodel the year was huge it was the thing to do and that's what NATO's at best presenters and that was made I was free and we went around in big shopping the net for a year and then that led to me work in on the clothes show model of the year we sounds missing now but back then anyone says single word about about everybody just has kind kind words and how lovely to make impression of your industry and at the same time improve people's opinion of having just a shack by beach and I just want dumbs hair shack one that's my returns black domes hair shack yeah I'm not GonNa lie it as being many times that I've kind of fallen out of love with I've got booed booed I'm GonNa have Boardman ponytail Terry Kingston and that's sound good Osama days somewhere we said what we're GonNa do this all screws out when we and yet we went came lane hair company I love it yeah I gotta say Goldilocks centers and we do the model of the year for the clothes show fantastic and then at that point I had the opportunity to go into partnership at Goldilocks my I just could just believing good I do and I'm not perfect I have straps that can be moody I can be opinionated he's made me a pretty good person and pretty confident in myself an opportunities that I've never had with page free goes like giving you could manage it always nineteen twenty it was just like I may say you can't believe it was lent me ten grand ten grand and we need to ship I didn't know what I wanted to do a minimum said when he commits partnership why I wouldn't give anything I've done in my hairdresser in career everything is made me the person I've become I'm not a rich man but people that and it really does you're not just talking a- always made them feel good today you talkin about things help people but yeah I I believe in good just that's what matters to me and the matters that you say inspire and engage people get excited that's why means a lot it does and I'd I'd hate to think I'm sure there's some people that was always the biggest one said a word but we know but you need and if you can help get people back on track like you do with your word people see you and you see you talk open and honest God that's amazing honestly I had a a an email and I mentioned her name because she won't Kim Kim could you came on episode one hundred she sent me a message an email and I begins of industry get people to share their stories inspire people and excite people you should be proud proud with us laverne reconnect with who they are and that's actually you know when you asked me if I ever felt like even a petrous in and actually want us again Komo students she's still here she's seventy five does she still she's still doing her yes she she she really is yeah we repre reputation in the industry you know everybody knows you as a wonderful pass and is consumed man as everybody knows that you have such a vibe of never heard doc every bit of that as well could lesser event you get the shop and I was so close to the head shop now that is an spectacular show the head I remember few still says now oh you're going to the Jason has gone but yes there has been tarnished and even today I'm still doing hair and work four days a week still on it on the floor but you have such a beautiful Clyde Wilson came on all eleanor that up and we grew a social needing bill on being and we tonight and that's how heckler formed then evolved became a community again naturally putting a spotlight on news stars new talent it kind of grew into a community and then nicky pope of respect and tribute and Mike Vincent Churches Dom would look to meter we became live fooled heckled live back in and a little about two thousand and seven it was born out of my love of Clip Music House very free hairdressers but in the club and I thought I wanted to open chair night club music and that's where we're done and we landed in we because intrusive are white lie I'd seen an open chair in America when I was googling around long before nick along got a love what they're doing but it was just ah the more personality haven't they're more almost caught they see now at cutlass visions or I'm going to have this vision okay with me now since two thousand Saint Sing I've created an actually making that decision to do that and not I went to star kings and that was it and it just went the first time I land so excitable stat and is brilliant I had had the most wonderful journey with hair clip live emotionally attached a Nikki Mica B I couldn't give the time to hack live in the way that maybe it deserved right but maybe just a cheeky one eight months comedies we must yes I've been asked to host a new style of events not my business not my and and I just felt so had said that before going to say it now and he's a big thing for me because I just is going to do that okay fantastic and we're GONNA and I'm really excited by going to start small with quite a big player in the industry media and unlike Dj's and just bringing them to motown that's what it done effectively got Stafford I just got in touch just kind of black they will you come up and do a show ahead life I'm GonNa just an Budapest very very very quickly we follow as cookie by the way brilliant and but and this will be the first one of announced I've decided that I've come away from heck apply she got quite emotional time as wacky get quite emotional can fill my eyes swell up some Tanah did I read her email and and when you see and training is still one of the big things if you see somebody developing so yeah so thank you on that very welcome last thing I met you coming away making money from it no more so it was just there comes a pivot just just felt the time had become I felt ebb live as a company has story said that with a starter there yes yeah so baby but started number southbound million everything goes down and my husband said we're GonNa go and you're going to see her on a beach until we pay you every which sounds like a good Jakov live yes relationship with that give me a little bit brief on what's going on with I I am glad you've asked me on that I'm just excitement I used to live there. DVD's and tastic the most insightful gas that you had that you might mention this the most insightful I love what we were doing because we Cinco youngins honestly is because social media enabled it twitter and all that and then I'd always happy seeing about the open channel Sube I would say Eugene Silliman but I'm I am GonNa put in Antony Moscow the reason being I just loved how US hairdresser and I'm GonNA mention him no Koga Episode Sore illicitness if I'm getting this wrong I have to go back in my head Z. 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Ep. 12: "Paris is Burning" (The Simple Life Season 1) w/ Special Guest Sedric Drake

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Ep. 12: "Paris is Burning" (The Simple Life Season 1) w/ Special Guest Sedric Drake

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Don't know if anybody watches it. British actress, what's her face? The one of the Brown hair she's lesbian in real life. IRL, FUCK! What's her name? Name! She would be a nice Princess di. They might have to talk Sir I. Down I. Think also for some reason I think like I. Don't know if I've ever heard talks uses a very. I just think that whoever plays Princess Diana needs to be someone that is like beloved by all. Divisive girl I forgot her name, though, but the girl the girl from La La land. Emma Stone Emma Stone. I thought about it was like, but that'll. Off To weight of all the great movies Emma Stone was in. You thought a fucking La La Land I've never seen that ever seen it. I'm just I'm just kidding. I'm judging I'd never seen that. You know I haven't seen Holland. Love really haven't seen it because. Black person told me that like. Oh, I really WANNA. Go see this movie about this. White people teach us about jazz. Now I'll probably pay judge. Having, a great movie I actually way, it's A. It's not what you think. I'm sure when I first saw it I was like Oh. This is going to be one of them like weird musical movies that I really don't WanNa see because. My fiancee's trying to give give you see Mama. Mia and I'm just won't do it. We'll young in watch mommy's. Bucking I will not watching your. Hours that. Margo for US presidents. Day Yeah? I like Margot. Robbie bugging nine. Prints. Margot Robbie might be candidates. She's good and she's got. She's got the beauty to pull it off. You have to have beauty to pull it off and Caitlyn. Stewart does not the beauty to pull that off. Lynne Stewart Glycerin. That's how much I care about. Her stepped up. I. saw. Margot Robbie and I Tanya in that shit was fire so. Tanya yeah the one about time cardinals. Fan Okay Cool. took. Cool. my news story read. The headline is from the Mirror UK. Love it rebel Wilson Oh God admits being told to stay bigger by bosses. Mess with her head to like fucked up I guess the best. Basically I guess rebel Wilson Daughter. Career was told by her like manager and like all the people you gotta stay fat. Otherwise, your career is going to be like again. I I kinda -SSUME that that happened, but that's crazy. That still happens. Yeah, because. She literally played a character named fat amy in. Certain tasks. Like her agent came to her and was like hey. I've got the perfect role you. Hear me out. called. Fat Amy. It's. Not really fat. Fat But you're you're you're, amy? Amy! But yeah. Actually, sabotage and then in cats. They put her in a fucking skin tight. Knowing that made. You should really watch it because it's the worst thing and the best thing. This reluctant. Jason Derulo. Yes, he has but I. Actually disagree with the way that it said. I think we've had this argument. I always heard it as Jason Derulo. To Room. It was in one. Fight about this. We're always gonNA find about this. Let's. Let's all. That's all going to circle and just do ours. Okay Jason Derulo. Jason Rouleau. I liked it though. I I'M NOT GONNA. Try Funds fact rather be fun fact. They had to digitally get rid of the outline of Jason Derulo Dick in cats because he's Dick was, he was in man-dong, and they had to photoshop it. Right. GotTa do what you gotTa do. I will say this about rebel I've seen actually think is a beautiful lady I love bigger women, so I think she's great I know why said that though I think they said that because. She's got. She's kind of a niche. And like she saw, and people saw how how Cadillac the other bigger bigger. Loss weight and it really haven't. They really haven't gotten that trim, and you know so it it just. It is what it is I. Call it the Luther Vandross affect. You were better as a bigger person. Now you lost weight. You don't really not to do shit anymore. You just Kinda like walking the earth. Now. What are you going next for us? Neat do you WanNa talk about? The biggest elephant in the room. I mean a kind of thing I know what you're referring to. That was like now. List, but I guess I duNNo. Chris Dudley played a pedophile then turns out to be. Again Creep. Twice twice twice. Claes played one. How did that work out you think. Do you think that like? He played a pedophile in workaholics, and then the casting director of you was all dude love that episode. Hey, you WanNa, do it again. You want to do it like. KRISTALINA was. Crazy is like if I play a pedophile I'll be the last guy they expect. Chris, how did you? How did you prepare for your role? No Man I don't know that's a question you want to ask. Find Out. And I. Like He. To. I don't know how this is gonNa Sound, but I will say this. Let me just let me finish before anyone thanks. To his credit, I guess he didn't actually do anything, but he's a big fucking creep for even like messaging the people. But But then again you know just because he did that I've assuming that he probably did do something, but we just don't know about in that person just keeping quiet. Is Ear son. He's forty now. He's been like in the game for a while so I mean, if two three people come out now, I mean. How many were there? So, it's like I. Don't know I. Don't really this kind of I was a fan, so. That kinda sucks. It seems like there's nobody can like anymore. I wasn't really a fan. But you know I liked his television stuff more like his comedy standup. I love to stand up. I thought he was very spontaneous, but like he reminded me of this kid I worked with who used to do math. Yet, but The weird thing to me was how. Honest like when I watched him with other comics and stuff on TV, and it seems like he has a lot of common friends or whatever, but like when it happened, nobody came into. Everyone was like Oh. Yeah looks like a creep. Y! Yeah, obviously he did and. I didn't know so. Many people hated them were climate. The climate is like okay. This is blaming him for it at the until proven guilty so. So basically, it's like okay. I'M GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Blame him for it. And then when he proves his innocence, he's good again. What if that? Answer questions. Night I don't think this has ever happened. And I'm just throw out a hypothetical out there, but like if he what if like you know happening now? We're all saying he did it. And there's you know whatever and what if? Something came out that refute it all and we found out he was innocent. Would you think in that case that people would have to apologize to him? I, think everybody vertically. Everybody stop point would kind of be like have to eat crow a little bit and okay, but you know what though I would much rather be like all right? You guys. Yeah, fuck I'm sorry. I'm stupid or even I'm stupid. I'm sorry that the evidence led me or the evidence I was presented living. You believe that. and. Sucks that this happened and you actually didn't do a bro like. Let's get your career back in ready and. Like I said we're there was. Smoke, there's fire definitely I just started this. Fundamental level I was thinking about was to is like it's like it's easier for people to be outraged at someone first. And then find out that the outrage wasn't there. They're outrageous on something else. And it was. It was false, and then everybody's like Oh. We're oh, he's okay, no apologies, but oh, yeah, he's all right. I think that's apology enough. All Right We don't know rich people anything. Moving on from that I think we all shared our thoughts, anyone has anything else to say about it as a comic now. Okay, COOL NEXT STORY! Rapper Hurricane Chris. Are you know? Hurricane Chris and I didn't ask because you're black I. know you'll. have. Hurricane Chris. He is black also for those who don't know. Who they don't know who, Kirk. Hurricane Chris was arrested for murder and. Hannah shooting another one. Another one. So many rappers I'd get arrested for murder and there's so many rappers that it happens because they put it in their songs and I'm not saying that that's what happened here, but that's like what he does that Shit. Right? Yeah, they do that I. May, basically. The winter. One of the. Murder Don't arrest me even though I committed first degree murder, and here are the specifics. Is that what it is songs probably? One of the funny things of this article was I learned that his real name was Christopher Duly, which is a cool name. But he got charged with second degree murder in connection with the shooting that took place in Shreveport La. Louisiana's all right Allie. Early Friday so yeah. Someone got murdered, and he got arrested for that Shit and another rapper the dust. Why don't you why rap? How do you feel rappers like? Getting into rap and actually making a career, but still doing dumb ass like Doug Shit I? Think I think he did it i. mean allegedly he did I. Think also to become like. The product of your environment. And that's all sometimes. That's all you know. when you haven't been around like. Like if you haven't been around a lot of people who who don't conduct themselves the way you do, it's hard to adjust to that so like even if you've been in the limelight for forever, doesn't really freaking matter your your your product vibe. If you still have the same people you hang around with, it is doing the same Shit Yeah Damn. That was deep I'm GonNa get fat. Any thoughts on us there. That's pretty much to the story. I mean He. He just got charged, so it's fresh, so he has. Trial yet again! I don't know what to say, it's like. Do you know her in Chris do odor. It's crazy like people who have fame lake. They end up like you said like doing should. They did before but like. It makes me think about a Gucci Mane in his glow up. And how going to prison was actually probably the best thing that ever happened a hand because he got super super super. Better to. Got Sober lost weight. Gucci Mane that. Someone. Another rappers friend tried to rob him, and he killed him, and then he put it in a song. That's why you home. We got cute whatever? Crazy. Get off and then you say in a song. That's why he got killed. We'll talk like God damn. Yep. Rap You guys. He's a perfect example of like you know not really getting caught up back in the lifestyle, but still doing the music other lifestyle. You know the the weird thing was. Style that's. Chris Brown the only person. For a bit that I liked that song. Makes me. Feel unsettled. Battling. About that. Chris Brown was the only person that did the reverse. gone crazy around. He was like a little kid, and then he just went. He's doing the blood I don't know why. After he had a career users like I'm GonNa be against now, and then he became a Takano is like. The borderline personality disorder Oh, so there's something wrong with him. Yeah, I totally agree? There's something wrong with all of them. Who Beats the Shit Arena? But he also but. He's asked me to. Just take those licks cover for her. Anyway. Racist. Come on you seven mottos here. That is trash. Hey! That's the trashy news. Time. It's now. You fucking time. Right I think I do. Listen to every episode of our podcast rates Hedrix time it is to write. Was! For this tragedy. Recipe to Rubio's And since we have a guest again this week, we're going to do another version of verses. Sarah? Jim Bruno in the right corner our. In. Two pounds. Let's. Height, three ten I'm just kidding. She's like five one. Left Corner, we got centered drake weighing in at five hundred. I'm just kidding you're. Joe Come on okay I don't have a laugh track I would play right now. That's totally. A Greek God. Ways. You're welcome I. Know, I'm like the only fat person in the world does not care people. Call you fat. Fat You're not fat I'm a big. A Big Guy but I've had people found. I know I'm not that I know. I'm a big, do also like eight feet tall, six three, yeah! anyways, this is trivial. Basically. Trivia is called who said it. So I got some quotes. Were options of who just. Finished talking. Damon WHOA. All right. I'm actually in the middle. Copy to say ooh okay anywhere. Basically is going to be. WHO said it I'M GONNA. Read off some quotes and you gotTA. Tell me who said it. Was it Paris Hilton Nicole Richie cool because they make sense. Because we watched the symbol life this week which I don't have to say because you saw the title of this podcast, and if you don't know, that's what we watch, then you're fucking stupid. True Anyway, so who said it also? I need you guys to. We don't have buzzers because we're poor here. We don't Reno visit us on Patriot. Dot Com slash, attract podcast, and you can fund our buzzers bill until then we gotta make mouth sounds so I'm going to ask you guys each. Tell me what your mouth sound Buzzer is going to be so Sarah. What's your mouth sound Buzzer last week? Mine was like dumb ass. Irritating, so my mouth sound is going to be. Is that less irritating. There's a little bit less area. This more fun. That's mine and Cedric. What is your Mouth Sound Buzzer? Okay. Feeling every time we do it. They kind of take their cues from you. Like. Last time she wouldn't like and then like our guest when. This is the same thing. Anyway say it again here. Oh! Okay, cool. And then if you get the answer, right, I would play this sound. The answer wrong. I will play this out. All right. Hey, number one. Asks for style. There's something about the way music and musicians dress. They seem to be able to create their own world within their fashion alone. Sarah Nicole Richie. A! Fence. All right. Quote number to. Some girls are just born with glitter in their veins. Cedric. That's that's that's. That's parents melted. Are you sure I sure? Yeah, that's. Keeping Track of the score nate an who cares. Right, Let's see here. No matter what a woman looks like. If she's confident, she's sexy. Sarah Paris Hilton. Damn. You guys know pairs. Okay. Quote Number Three! Every woman should have four pets in her life. A mink in her closet, a Jaguar in her garage, a tiger in her bed and a jackass who pays for him moving? That's a good quote. Jesus centric you in I think it's the call Ritchie Nicole Richie. Yes, you! Are Wrong. Too Long. It was too intelligent. That's why every picture it'd be like everybody. More at home. They need four Chihuahuas. Like that would be. All! Right next one. Anytime I am around a male body part. It's kind of exciting. Sarah Nicole Richie. Hopefully. Selassie that. Maybe you had like five different people that use. Instead of just, the two would have been all right next one. Like Nicole Richie Paris, Hilton or like Donald Trump. Yeah. You know what? Let's change the game in the middle of the game. It's now Paris Hilton. DONALD TRUMP All right next one. Good drink bleach numbs getting. Out! Next. You know I'm just I'm really happy for my dad. I think it's. I think it's a call Ritchie. I'm positive I'M GONNA. Give you one chances. Change your answer black changing okay. Yeah, you're right. You're. Trying to make it interesting. All right. I'll do like a few more. A SHORT TRIVIA? Let me, flip flip them. Okay, got it next one. Yes. I've kissed a lot of guys. I like to kiss, but that's it. I don't go home with anyone I sleep with my animals like my baby monkey, Brigitte Bardot. Said you're. The call Richie. Silt and I just. I don't know part is look that up because that's a good name for a monkey. Game General! Is A lot. and. That's a model. Old School model mean then. BIG LIPS BIG TITS! You Know I. Want Nice I'll do. Two more so. Who cares right yeah. Chance got. I am extremely involved in the design process of both my brands winter. Kate in house of Harlow Nineteen Sixty House. Sarah Nicole! Right before. We! This is the one to one. It's. Harder than I thought next. I've gone through so much in my life that pulling my top up just does it seem like that big a deal? Oh. I'M GONNA go I'm GonNa go Paris Hilton on this one for the parents Elton. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Be Generous again. Do you want to change that? You know what every time you do this. I feel confident. It's Paris Hilton. As. To and this week's Persian. To rescue to really. was really hard. released. Things that are very similar similar. Yeah, yeah, so yeah! We watched the simple life season one this week. I'm so sorry, Cedric. We made you watch this, but hopefully. Cats. Get stuff out of it. Did! You do any research this week. Here are all I did read. Just the go ahead and. A little bit about the show before we get into the ship. Simple, life with Paris Hilton in Karachi, so the show premiered on Fox initially December, third, two, thousand three, and the entire show ran to completion ll. Until August fifth two thousand seven, so basically what had happened? It lasted for five you. Show lasted for. Yes. So basically what had happened was there worthy reality TV show. Genius executive producers of Buckingham Slash Murray. To produce the show. Why is it always a pair of dudes? Not, one of them is the chick. Sorry Jennifer. And something else I apologize when I said. Dude I'm into a non gender specific way I shouldn't have, said Dude. Why is always a pair of people because the feed off each other when they're wasted in coked out at a bar and People at part good answer all right on. The Fox Comedy Department Fox Channel Comedy Department. They were trying to come up with a new type of comedy. Show that they could do so. It's two thousand and three. This is like the beginnings of reality TV like no one was really doing reality TV other than the real world and road rules. And so Fox was like. How do we get it on like a comedy show? That's not a Sitcom, so they were thinking okay. What if we took like nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, high-concept sitcoms, and just like redid them in a reality show setting so okay I see that makes sense, so the simple life was based off of the nineteen sixties Sitcom Green Acres Oh. That know about that either. Yeah, so initially wanted like an entire family to go from being super super rich to living on a farm, a log green acres the show. But just coincidentally Perez Hilton was at Fox studios trying to do a pitch different show. And I guess wall talking to Paris. They realized they were like Shit. She's actually like not a stupidest people think, and she's really sweet, but she plays up kind of this like done character. This might be perfect for what they're looking for. So they basically just ushered Paris into the fucking conference room where they were like talking about doing this reality show and they were like all right. This is perfect like Paris Hilton is going to be the star, and then she'll pick lake. Someone else to do with her will send rich people into the farmland. Copying this fucking Sitcom and it'll be hilarious. So Paris at I wanted her sister Nikki to do the show with her, but Nikki was like no. I'm like more shy and I. Don't really want to be filmed all the time like it's bad enough that we go out. The smarter to me. She was saying that Paris's dumb at all the smart. Yeah, whatever we can talk about later because I have some things I found out too, but. Even, if she smart I always felt like Nikki was a smarter one anyway. So basically first choice was her sister Nikki. She said no second choice was rod stewart's daughter, Kimberly Stewart girls and nutcase. The one that Paris in her like wrote up on the fucking motorcycles intellectually crashed. And, she also had been e Co del Toro's baby. She did yeah. Wow, look that up, though I'm pretty sure that's correct. Number child that has been. And so can stewart I couldn't do it or said now or something so then her third choice was Casey Johnson of Johnson, Johnson the band aid heiress. And she said no and. Nicole Richie, so she was taking what the fourth choice! Yeah. So they were good friends, but like she didn't want to do this show with her. If that makes sense. She finally said yes. So Fox had the show from the year two thousand, three, two, thousand five. The third season was supposed to film with Fox but Harrison Nicole had a falling out. where quote Paris would not talk about the incident, but would say the. Media! She'd be like Nicole knows what? She knows what she day you know like. What the fuck happened Blah Blah Blah so then, Paris tells press that Kim Stewart Kimberly Stewart is gonNA replace Nicole and then Nicole was going to get a wedding special of her marriage to Adam Goldstein, AKA DJ am. But all of that. Was Not promised in Paris was like drunk, or whatever, and told the press that and she shouldn't have so then. Everything actually just got cancelled from Fox. So then picked it up into thousand sixty, two thousand seven pairs Nicole forgave each other, so there were two more seasons. Ma Blah Nicole entered healthcare facilities for weight issues zero this time, which she says that it wasn't an eating disorder and that she had some type like weird. hypoglycemia slash inability to put away. And she said she had seen a nutritionist and a psychiatrist in the end that I wasn't an eating disorder. She kept saying it was a eating disorder. what are we thinking about that? I. It was. Or drug addiction, or or both, or both because man I mean if you look at her now and you looked at her watching the simple life. It's I. Mean it's almost looking out a different person. Almost like she looks a May. She ate it now kind of. Like someone took a dehydrated and it was like. Description. Very. Much more for the I'm hot on peers right now. Roaster. Track! I have so many great things to say. Go, ahead! Paris OUTTA music career. Also just to let everybody know that the sex tape a night in Paris premiere two weeks before the First Episode Ever Abode Nice. I didn't know that that's fun. That's just dropped and everybody was like a called, and they're like buck well here we go Fox TV, the simple life. And everyone fucker, and that's probably why. The show was such a hit to be honest. Be Bad Paris had a music career. Stars are blind was a Bob. We know that now. She's a deejay. Allegedly signed to cash money records I. Don't know if that stole a thing. She is now doing an online you to youtube show. Really it's called cooking with Paris. And she basically uses stupid in the kitchen, and she says her new favorite combination of words slaving slaying in living. She is a dog mansion for her dogs? It's a two story doghouse in the back with central air in heat. Whom Trans Pop star Kim Petras from Germany. Did a song called? I don't want it at all. And the entire inspiration was Paris Hilton in Paris Hilton was in the music video, and that song is also a fucking Bob and also my friend Robbie. Met Perez Hilton on Halloween a few years ago, and she was dressed up as Tinkerbell, which was the name of the Cute Little Chihuahua that was on this. Do you guys want me to go through their arrest records, or should we do that, okay? Already. Gone to? Here Sodas criminal yeah I think I. think that's the. Arrest. Frazier. Olden is a criminal. People want to go that, but she might. Look cute, but she's a criminal. Anyway let's get into the trash now, guys! It's time for the. Let's. Even. has done for the trash. Trash talking about this show. The, simple life season one. Before I, START I just want to ask quick question. Did you guys enjoy? Do you guys like the show? Love this. Did. You love it. It. Was it was? It was like watching something that I laughed at. I will squeamish out a little bit. feels. Like, I, mean I. Don't know if I liked it, but it gave me all the fields okay. Cool I watched the show and I got say before I watched it. Sarah already knew I. Do not like Paris Hilton. And then like okay, so I just WANNA. Say something before we start I just want to refer start, so I watched show and I never liked it before in the past right and it's morning. I went through a roller coaster of emotions. was I looked up online, okay? Paris Hilton Right, and then like I started seeing a bunch of interviews where she was all like. Yeah this was a character in a brand was building, and I think a business person. Whatever and I'm smarter and I was like Okay You know what maybe I hated her for the wrong reasons. Maybe I didn't get it or whatever and then I saw a video. I don't know if you guys have heard of an author named Neil Strauss. Actually sounds really. An author named Neil. Strauss some? This wrote a book and in this book. He talked about an interview that he had with Peres. And in that interview they were discussing several subjects, dating and Shit like that right and he asks her about she. She told him a story and this is what she said quote. She was making out with someone from the movie saving private. Ryan right and I'll tell you who was later. was she said she said we were making out, but then we went somewhere where it was bright, and I saw that he was black and made an excuse and left. The next thing she said wait hold on, and then she said I can't stand black guys. I would never touch one. It's gross. From. That's where she. He said. And then he asked her after that he said. How does a guy have to be? And he quoted her response, and she said one percent is enough for me. So. I was like oh I respect her, and then I was like not never mind fucker fuck. Paris Hilton don't like her, but anyway. Hey, let's talk about the show. Heroes Out What Year was the? This is an article from thousand eleven. It was a while ago. Not long and. I to be honest with you, actually remember actually now the Dow, now that you said that actually remember that Shit and that really made me turn. Maybe turn her off on her. She was an. Obviously. She denied it, but the guy quoted her and his books. It was of like don't know. That's what I read. That's what. I think she said it, probably she. was. Badly he can get sued if Say. A He didn't have flight, and also you don't know if he has actually actual tape. S True. That's true. I'm just taking his word for it because I just. Have heard that she's definitely, said the N. Word in Oh. Yeah, there's the L.. GotTa. There's video of her screaming the F.. Word I won't say. Bucker, the other F word began enough about Pierce's. Troubled colored past get it. Anyway. This shows simple life with her adult. WanNa talk about it's still fine. We don't know that's that's allegedly. She said that we don't know. kind of sour the okay. Anyway Sarah, what are you? Like moments of standard. You the one they stayed with a family in some fucking small ass town in Arkansas and they stayed in a room that had an open well in. Room like a water. A water. First thing that fuck in Paris and I think she was just like. What is this well used for? Take Water and she's like. Water comes out of wells like. He did say that they just think. A place where children got stuck, that's. Interesting I don't think she knew what a well was at all. Yeah, I think it's like. How. Like I wish you well. A lot of things well, there's a lot of things you would think that they should know down. They don't at all. There was a scene where they were talking really. Perez was describing Nicole Richie. What A laundromat with! Only. Get it like they all go to the same place and wash your clothes talking about that earlier. And basically, the family was like a basic. Ask housewife that likes to wear turtlenecks. A Dad who was balding two teenage sons, a toddler, an old woman whose hair was so big, she littering Mars attack do. That's so fuck you when I wrote down. She look like. She looked like baby. Frankenstein's. ERASERHEAD I don't know if you've ever seen. She looked like yeah. Hi Top fade. down. Have you seen? Pee Wee's big adventure. Of course, she looks like large margin. Large. Large. Large, The, the bigger, the higher, the hair, the closer to God. God Can. You imagine how much time she spends in the morning with that Shit. Look. I don't know fondling. That's not crazy. That woman is up in the kitchen at five. AM with that beehive. What do you? She wakes up at three in the morning? Oh, yeah, no obviously does probably high. It's like. She probably has the greatest possessions in that here. Is like old. Why at Man who wear suspenders? Who Barely said anything? But you always knew what he was thinking actually beyond they were actually really Nice family. They were really. Really blown up on them and they. I was GONNA. Ask you anything about the family. I think they're are really nicely, very. Hate for that. To a very. For some dizzy ass way to come in their home, and and and you know what that was one of my problems with the show. Is that like they were like? Oh, we're. We're going to give away all our shit and we're GONNA get rid of our credit cards and like living this town and survive and shit and like a no, they didn't. Like like your fucking, Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie and you're in a town. If you want someone to just be like Oh, yeah, here, take it. Which is what happened? And to like they. They got paid for the show. I'm sure Oh. Yeah, so they were just working. They were getting like if they didn't get paid off the show. Then it would be something that would be them like actually doing back. But they paid. Didn't look up. They they call. Sarah I guarantee. I guarantee at the very least. Their parents would not let them do that show at us. Part of their brand to you know what I'm saying. Anyway, that was one of my. Also on, sound like crazy or at all, but I'm looking at you. And I'm glad you Mrs Butterworth. Stay relevant yeah. We. Don't buy into my man this. House. HASHTAG! Mike only by. By Syrup that looks like a white woman. Running. Yeah I like a little kid to. His name was Braxton. Babies the part with him in the dog. Funny. He fucking Fed tinkerbell cheese sandwich, and then he took tinkerbell out to meet the cows it was. tigger rail down the slot. You're. Never had so much fun in her life. You know how I'm you know with the moment I knew that I love kid is when the mom was like. Did you like a spending time here when the colon impairs and he was like no. Why you didn't like him whatever he's like. Oh, they were silly and he was like. Did you have any fun with like? Yeah? I mean some, but they were silly. silly. Probably pissed because they told him like. Hey, you don't have to do as many tours when they're around and he actually end up doing. He did all their chores. Them and he's like a cute little kid. Who's just like Gosh. Darn it now. They ain't doing the dishes. I guess I. Knowledge Gee Whiz. Years only three yeah, smart keys. He was like really, and he talked like a twenty three year old southern Jen. Over their. Kids from the south or so cute because they haven't been ruined by shitty ideals yet. Still speediness, but sit on. I, it's really funny. Stay topical I was thinking to myself too. I know. They told him to put the confederate flags wave. Yeah you know what you know what? I actually think that you might be right like even like the nicest families I guarantee. That probably had some. Arkansas yeah. Sounds. Like eight hundred. I bet they had conversations at night. There were like. Nicole black or Just pains real. Tammy. Pay. SNICK. Around yet. At the same color as Plus she got powder coated like. By the way Boo for confederate flags. Yes. Yeah. We got the whole. That little kid was so cute with the dog Tinkerbell was so cute. I WANNA. Talk a little bit about the different jobs they had to do. It seemed like every single day. They had to do a different type of job. And the first day was a dairy farm, right? So the first. Fill milk bottles. Like diluting them with water, Madden. At all. That's easy. After even afterwards. The Dad's name like Dale or Whatever let's let's call them. Afterwards like Dale was like I thought it would be easy. I thought. I thought they could do that almond. Milk like what the fuck. Because it was like a much lower steak version of when Lucian. Ethel had the chocolate convenient. Ask what a reminding! Jobs. Because he like it wasn't even like speed or anything, he just like twice I'm like so. The truck is coming soon ish. All the bottles already out and they tried to hide bottles and. This like they're under dumber Lucy and. Started putting my water. Known now as I got angry because I was likely to fucking drinking well now. I know, but I have to say that was my emotion in my reaction. If. I'm pretty sure production was like hey, how many bottles are we'll pay you for all of it because they probably. All it on us. Definitely I will say this I did look up a video on Youtube behind the scenes show, and it's actually it's. It's weird than you would think. It looks like they're just doing share right and they're just like about the town or whatever, but if you watch the behind the scenes on youtube, there's someone that's recording with their phone. It's literally like them walking to cameraman and like thousands of people just around them like oh my. Yelling and Shit, and like yeah, they showed the scene where they were working in the fast food place, and it was literally just a fast food place was just packed with people, and they've just had like four cameramen, and whatever just doing their share. Why everyone just yelling and it was crazy. It was like pandemonium was fucking enough. I'll share some of those on our instagram. Maybe like some people could see. Any of that. Yeah, you don't see and you know what that's. That's been my idea from the beginning. I think that there should be a reality show of behind the scenes of a reality. We just film the cameraman and the produce some. Like a documentary, the presumptive knew that Shit what the fuck the documentary you could make it like like a community tiny. Manner and wherever you may pay me I, just want money anyway. Put me. Put a minute to yeah, so like they worked at Sonic. Like that's funny because you were like. Yeah, they worked at a fast food place like they worked at the dairy farm I. They got fired halfway through the day there. The next. Next. Work at sonic, and they suck everything up on. They even put like half price anal on. I want to get to that. This is what I want to talk about. Because I know, their boss was all pissed at him, but I guess she was. I know shoes in a damn back like Oh my God. Cap Yeah. Because a few heard her voice, she wanted to laugh. She wanted to laugh so man. It was so funny. Production probably told her that she had to stay serious. Laugh at this. We know it's funny. You got you got you. because. What. People. Don't also say is that everybody still has to play a part. In these reality shows. Up Yeah, it's acting. It's not real. Yeah, everybody is themselves heightened even the cute as Mars Attacks Cram on. Grandma on on the show. Can I say something? kind of related kind of unrelated yeah, I did watch some things about paracels in kind of her after the show and one of the things that came up. That she was jealous or not jealous. She was mad at Kim Kardashian and they used to be friends. Kim Card out really really good friends Kim Kardashian. Basically, it was Paris's assistant. But, they used to be really good friends, and then like she got mad. Because Kim Kardashian stole her shit, and then made a sex tape and got famous, and then like start doing our own shit. Yeah, and she was all like bitch. would. For Paris the One thing idyllic up, and this is when I started feeling sympathy for Paris a little bit in the beginning of this morning before she got racist. She she did say that like you know like she. That was a really hard time for her. I guess when that came out because that asshole do leaked it out and. And she did say that like a lot of time. She actually kind of went to kill ourselves because it was. It was kind of hard to have that out there in. Someone's stolen from her. Yeah, because it wasn't put out with her consent. And, that's. A Lot yeah, and I felt bad for her into. She said some ship. Only and you know where that that led me down a rabbit hole of other races ship. People were saying like Hulk Hogan and Shit. And, Mark Wahlberg. They don't have. Whole Hogan's. Book know what. Wash my mouth out with soap. See that a few times. You. Know you want you want to just be like this is real, and you watch the game like all right I gotta get angles now that he belched and was like Oh barbecue. Now you've got me thinking of a sex tape. idealize that I felt kind of defensive. I saw PIPPI longstocking. We an actress played. The girl that was PIPPI longstocking in the movie out now. The movies kids yeah kids. That movie would. Fashion Probably brought a lot of own. Child. Based with. I was turned on. Man That's horrible. Do you remember the website by John? Can We? Know. Yeah? Jobs Oh. Nicole! Richie had to artificially inseminated cow, right or go cows butthole. She didn't do something where she put her arm up a cow's butthole. Oh, yeah, yes, you have to put her arm of. You just said you can. We just talked about the fact. You just say, go up cows, but. She didn't like go go up by. She put her hand up, but I mean like. Not! Tightening. Easily. She was like she even in the reunion show, she was like yeah like the cowboys and let you up there and you don't WanNa. Go Up there, but you have to like. Put some energy behind it and. Energy of and I'm so mad because Paris was just like yeah. Nicole did a Lotta stuff than anyone do. I yeah, but if you look at the whole show, Paris is Paris was initiating a lot of the bullshit that was on. Instigator! That's why she's a fucking criminal. I I really feel like Paris. Hilton is a criminal. Do you guys have. Any favorite moments you WanNa talk about our favorite care. Or like anything. Like favorite or most interesting. I don't know if I use that word. There was a lot of there. Was I think it was in the lost episode Oh. Episode had the taxidermy bear. Funny. No. I will say the townspeople the they enjoyed their presence. They were really good sports about everything. Yeah, whatever my only thing was that they just pretended like they were getting something out of it, and they weren't. They weren't getting anything out of it. Other than fame and branding whatever. I mean I feel like everybody who was on the show got paid some way I don't know. And also it's just like they. They were in there like so stupid and just saying ellison like these dues were like Oh. This is fun to teach these dumb. ASS, Bitch. Shit. Like the whole thing was super funny to me and then But I I gotTA talk about my absolute favorite moment. Okay. What was that? Nicole through the bleach at though yeah. That? Episode. Places. Only episode. Won-. Sure. What was on? Fox. Okay. Yeah, there were only eight episodes. They were twenty minutes long I feel like, but there was so much packed in there, which is actually kind of weird because they were there for what two weeks and Months they were there for like a month and the only guy like the a week's worth of episodes. Like. That's weird. You know it's just so funny. 'cause Nicole Lake they're finally getting drunk at a bar somewhere and then she goes in the bathroom. She comes out of the bathroom she she's blackout drug and she's just like we're Thuc is may purse in Paris? Nicole where is your purse? added. Domain! In Paris like Oh my God. No I don't know. Runs into the bag and she's like who wears bags, and then she finds a gallon of bleach. She access, so this is. What the motivation was that who? The fuck has bleach in a bar bathroom? It was. It was just sitting there actually. Yeah, my. MIC. See theory corner a simple life. That shit up for her. Of course can of conspiracies. You know why I think there was only like six episodes, and there was like they were there for a month, because like most of that time they weren't doing. They were just fucking being paracels. Nicole Richie Rabbi and Shit, and like going on shopping sprees, and like there was even like a scene where at the might have been the loss episode also, but like where their parents sent them food from like yeah layer beverly hills socialite. That and I'm like okay. You just like what what's the point, fuck? These ads just okay anyway. All their mom, she was just like this the. Food it's disgusting. I love that I love no I love though when they got the food, and then like everyone that lived there in the on the farm, and they were just like Nah. I'm good I. got my catfish. Look for Sushi or whatever you got. How are they preparing the catfish? That's let matters. FRY. I'm going to be honest with you, Mayo. Going to say he ever had. Have you ever had bates? No won't do white people do that. I don't know. Because I've never know. This is a compliment I will say this. You're not white enough to know Sierra. You might. CARE. You've. is now. Why don't take over? Anyway! Moving. that. Privilege Back. To, make a point about something. I think I don't remember. Going to say my favorite part. Must report because you stone by, but then I found. Was the part where she they made it. They made those pies. Yeah. And the grandmother. She was so happy they made. She was proud and she was telling about everybody. Oh, you can't wait. You can't wait to see these pies surprise. They did such a good job on. The Dog East the freaking. Wake! They bring the. Well. Okay, can I? Apply I like the there's no. There's no accountability here. Look at it the dog. First of all I. Don't think the dog had the idea to pull the the foil off. Someone said Hey pull it off. And he pulled the walking. Dogs are okay, even with that even with that. Here. It's smart. How did we get those angles? The cameraman was all like a by. Any film that Shit you didn't stop the dog. He didn't say Paris Nicole like the dogs eating. He will just like every simply observer. Yeah I. Know but like. Trees can he can get the I can do. That I do. Because No, why not? Because they put a close up on him and they had all the data they were on their faces and the camera. People fucking did they ran on it? It's all it's all. It's all for comedy. Was So and in fact, what about the dog is it okay for a dog to eat pie? But is it really? Diarrhea leader. Rhubarb Pie those delicious. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA. Let's back it up, said drink. Lack I never. Did forget my my fiance happens to be. Hiding! I'm ugly from fronts. I've had one sliver of Pumpkin Pie Hole my God. How was that? What was that like? Did you sold like? Mike it tasted weird. Potato is. Can't tell you a secret. No. I was. I was assuming this color. Of that. Of course, SWEET POTATO PIE! Okay, what to say was I actually had I. don't think I had ever had Pumpkin Pie until author say. Wow, so serotypes is true my. Grandma. She wouldn't make my own Pumpkin Pie. Everything's giving to my grandma would make me moans potato pie because Oh. Yeah I would eat all the pie, too. I would like barely eat dinner, and then I would just go in by. But I also love sweet potato. I Love Pie in. My favorite dessert. I with I, would like for my wedding like pies stacked up. This is now the Pie Park. Is that. They were making the Pie I had like flashbacks to me and my grandma baking together good, my grandmom was from. Missouri Very Mid West and you know it's just like more area to where. Grandma's hair was not as high. She'll. Definitely put curlers in it every night. Get any I don't think anyone's grandma's hair was as high as that. That was crazy. She Mark Simpson going on. At the top right. Okay. Look I'm. Like I'm just saying from my experience. The way they looked in the way it was smooth. Whatever a black guy desert hair like! that. She has a black barber and he cuts that Shit No. We're not people in that town. Was One black girl with braids baby and it was Richie. Looking. Black people that's why said there had to be some confederate flags. Money I'll tell you like really really short story. I was driving neighborhood with a friend of mine, and it was a it was a very nice neighborhood, and we felt safe until we saw a an American flag on someone's roof and we were just like anyone who puts a flag on their roof. It's like they were real and kills black people like. I WanNa talk quickly about that. Fair Festival episode with the Pie. Ask that I have a rapid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you. Let's talk about that Roy definitely definitely. Pinnacle of the TV show. Because Braxton that little three year old was running. Accident with Brad James Brown. Everytime I'm thinking like what black lank. Braxton Braxton Braxton Toni Braxton a little black. Inspired by Toni Braxton's named. Toni Braxton. Do our one night. Do thing in Tony's extent. Toni Braxton playing when they fucked and they. Love. Again. Bruce. Asked Braxton was conceived to Toni Braxton's music. And he was running for Prince at the festival and Paris and Nicole showed up in these homemade little slutty cowgirl outfits. It was. Admitted Nicole goes up to the person doing face painting. BRAXTON's earning for print, so is there. Any way could paint BRAXTON's name? Across may tate's what. Don't remember the Braxton like as a trip stamp. Yeah, what else so funny and closely? Like Hey guys where your co chairs and link judges for like this festival also Lake Braxton's or for Prince Braxton, so hiring your vocal phrase on point. Like so gross out when they were just like a three year old hot, they were like. For an for Pratt. Sudi had on was like sure. He looked sharp. He did like sharp. And, then he got up there, and he was so nervous and scared. Watch episode against Dear I. Honestly, that's probably my favorite episode. Show when they did that reunion special, they tried to like talk to Braxton and they had that stupid ass. Host Leeza Gibbons. Entertainment. Tonight when he's a given and then she's like come over here. Braxton Braxton walks up and he's just sitting there. Talking about how much hate Leeza Gibbons reunion special because she was just like. Can we talk about how so totally Braxton is? And the anytime, someone's like so totally cute to people younger than them. It's just embarrassing. Yeah just stopping. There's no better than still better than John. Robinson from Ninety Day Sean Robinson. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah. I do I do watch show? We can have a show about that show. Before. Like do you guys have anything else that kind of stand down to your you wanted to. Also in addition to that whatever you're gonNA. Say I want to also ask. Do you think that they got anything out of it? And do you think got anything out of watching it, but go ahead? That's a great question. What I will say, the other part is when they worked for the do. Did the cattle auctioning? A that was one of the most awkward scenes like it was hard. Refresh my memory on. Their house. And he was like they they were. They didn't know who was. was. Appearing at the door, they would come back and I was like. Are you trying to create me out right now? You guys. Treat me out. What I think. They did get a lot out of it. Yeah I. think that like experience, wise or like a like learning like they actually learned I think they learn how to be normal people in some sense. I think they learned how much work it takes to make so little money. And it deserved them when they worked all day at. All that shit at Sonic on a day when they got fifty dollars. And the the title. The title of the show is like it's so complex because it's like okay. Yes, a simple life, but the simple life takes hard fucking work. On. That was. I'm GONNA call you. I'm going to call you deep, cedric. Really deep, he was like the symbol. Life is the most complex was like Oh shit! Tell me more dogs and he fucking delivered right. I, agree with you. kind of an oxymoron right. Yeah life was. So. Complex and we live in the city, but Gotcha okay. Like like the thing is too, but if you took them over to to the beverly, hills, it would be a culture shock for live, and they would know how to adjust certain things true. Yeah, so it is I mean it's? It's almost the same way on the flip side. That's what I got out of it like I could I could tell they were. They were different people when they left left the show. Okay I i. hear what you guys saying. What do you I? Don't think they learn shit. I don't think they gable I. I think that they did gain I think there was a interview I saw where they were talking and Paris like Oh. Yeah, all the people in the town characters whatever I do think they had like a memorable experience, and they do like the people in the town. And they experienced there but I think they went home and they were just all like I'm rich again. Coup. Learn Shit like I'm going to go back to my. Yes yes. That's my point. was that the show just at the beginning? You just was never about anything other than I just find. It was just fine I'm I'm not saying anything I mean but. Afterwards from the show despite all of the racial comment. Paris cynical have become like major philanthropists in many different aspects. To jail I might have. Had an effect on them and made them philanthropy. I'll in by saying I'll just say this. They go to jail. Unless Paris Hilton donates all of our money to black people I. don't give a fuck. fucker anyway got. Try Me On this trashy show. Over yet you really quickly. You gotTA. Services. Sarah says, this. Week Sarah says this week. It's an important PSA. It's short all right well. That's the case. guys is time foe or Sarah sees. Hey everybody welcome to Sarah, says. PSA Public Service announcement for all of my. Porcelain skinned brothers and sisters and fellow human beings out there. We've all been been inside for a while. It's been shelter in place. We've been locked down. But make sure you put on some Sunscreen, even if you're going to be outside for less than an hour, black people put sunscreen to Ashley Yes. Let's continue. I I. Have I am very Pale from being like. We haven't been outside in a long time. Thank you, cedric actually. We haven't been outside in a long time. We're all susceptible to skin cancer from the Sun and part people. Okay, but I was outside. I was outside for possibly eighty minutes in the sun, not even direct sunlight, and I got sunburned because I did not put sunscreen on yesterday. And that's because I'm so to being indoors. Because of this stupid corona virus, so you. It's just no matter what when you're going outside. Put on a nice layers. It's SPF like twenty. Below. Super. What's a good number of SPF's who? Five maybe. For me I'm probably going to lean more towards SPF eighty. So really. Okay, but she's I mean she's white, so you probably have. Like thirty because I don't I mean I generally stick like a fifty. Right now because I haven't been like. Going outside a lot and walking around summertime, I'm probably going to have to eighty in lean back into like a fifty. Maybe a mixture like a seventy five K. your skin adjusts to like to like the sweet. Yeah, because like if federal and end because my eyes are like blue, the very sensitive to light, and it takes a while for them to work back up to the sunlight so when I hit the outside during summertime not only is my skin burning, but my retinas are also -verting so also if you have light colored eyes, make sure you get a nice. Rate Protected sunglass going on. You're a vampire allergic to the sun like me, take precautions. Sarah Fuck says you guys. Don't fairy says. I. Think that the sun is the biggest. Advocate for racial. Change and I think the Sun Burns white people on purpose, because it's making up for years of slavery and racism anyway. Theory. Let's opened up the trash box and shake it up and pick a new show. Up You guys don't agree you don't think the sun is like racist white people trying to say basically. Towards white people. Feel like. I feel like this is maybe a topic for another day. Let me. Give a little drum roll before. And what show are we fucking watching next week? Inter motherfucker invention so prevention. Man wannacry. Salihi episodes. Sure God damn okay well whatever we're watching her pension next week, guys is. Season only episode. Out? In Avid intervention watcher. I've been watching it since season. One to my mom has the best quote of all time because my mom loves to drink cocktails or a nice Pino gratiot. And she'll like. She likes to take maybe a hit or to the mirror. Sorry, mom. But one time she said Hey, guys. We're doing tonight to me and one of my friends gathered is going to go out. Get some beers the bar and she's cool. I'M GONNA get high and watch intervention and. That's my mom, everybody. That you have to watch that show. Hi! Just gotTa be high. Order to wash that show. Like I try to watch it sober and I was just like. I can't I can't deal with this like I'm about to like have a nervous breakdown about to cry. Wait wait wait on. Did you say you try to watch intervention so? Yes! Should sober. Woke. There's one episode in particular where I felt like the family was like definitely at fault. We. ENDED UP WATCHING THAT ONE? Episode say. Cedric. I don't know if you have anything you WANNA plug or anything you want to. Know about no but I do have a show. I'm doing tonight. Which is I mean? There's going to be too late, but. No one's GONNA. Drive show tonight. people are going to be in their cars left jokes, you guys. Hosted by mean Dave. You guys because this is Monday. You guys just missed the DOPE ASS show. Really it's going to be. You shouldn't say. I think biweekly, and then that's how they're doing so like guys. Mike Bucci is. A Dope, BASS POLITICIAN COMEDY GUY! Look it up driving comedy go. And so that? Yeah and if you did go to that or you watch that then good for you, you didn't miss it. I guess a cedric final message to the people was before that. Do Drugs if you're GONNA watch intervention. The people say that the people or the kids now we know. We are, role model. This week join us. We're going to be watching. The intervention is going to plug in heavy I. Guess, Go, our patriotic paged. Patriots dot com slash podcast our website at www dot trash podcasts dot com. Follow me at the nate. Spears on twitter Sarah, Sarah Glam Bruno. What your twitter handle? cedric twitter handle. 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116  WBA  What You Can Control

Brotherhood Academy Radio

03:37 min | 4 months ago

116 WBA What You Can Control

"In. Link together as one force. Continuing to serve. The Brotherhood. Academy Radio PODCAST. Series. A Guys. Nick Hilton here with the Brotherhood. Academy Radio PODCASTS and I am here with your weekly box alarm, yes. I renamed it the weekly box alarm mostly because the Wednesday box alarm. I can't always get him up on Wednesday. With the new job, the new scheduling and Priorities It's now. It's not going to be the weekly box alarm. That's okay. I think it's okay. I think you'll be fine with it but anyway. We'll talk real quick about. What is going on right now, but not specifically what's going on in the world in this country, but how we can deal with? Right. There's so much happening that we cannot control singlehandedly right. We can't control singlehandedly. This corona virus these lockdowns if you guys are still locked down. We can't control. What's going on with the police? Were here to back the police? On this podcast by the way. So. If you're a police officer, listen listening to this. We are here for you. We back you. But. These are the things we can't control singlehandedly coming in as a group. Yes, I believe that we can, as a group changed things for the better, but I wanNA talk about intense. What can we do? All right. We need to find something in our lives that we can control. On our own right, we need to find something that. We have control of individual whether that be a hobby. Or a side job or a project at home. Or mentoring somebody or coming up with the project for your fire station. Right. We're in control of that. So while everything right now is completely out of our control in this world. Find something that you are in control of. Find something to occupy your mind that positive. Right do something to make a difference in somebody else's life or in your own life. Because when you put out something that's positive. You're going to get positivity in return guaranteed. Okay so that's my message for this week's Wednesday box alarm I'm sorry. I caught myself this week's weekly box alarm. All, right, my friends stay safe out there. Thank you for listening. Time is valuable. took the time out of your day to listen to this short message. We'll be back against her. Friends please join the movement by sharing this podcast and sharing our social media accounts and visiting US at Brotherhood. Academy radio DOT COM. Academy, Radio PODCAST is brought to you by salty. Hook media.

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221. The Hottie and the Nottie: LIVE!

How Did This Get Made?

1:24:12 hr | 1 year ago

221. The Hottie and the Nottie: LIVE!

"Hey everybody is paul scheer forty six show this week you know that june's book comes out in stores september third. It's called represent the woman's guide to running for office in changing the world this book rules. It's amazing. It's a workbook it shows you how to tangibly run for office and not just the biggest offices in the land but but any office in the land and how to change the course of the country it puts the power back in the people's hands or at least gives you the tools goals to take the power back. I love this book. It's fantastic. Go out there and pick yourself up a copy this tuesday represent the woman's guide to running for office and changing the world and wanting to bring it out to our live shows because we are back on the road that's right. How does this is back on the road. We are starting in chicago next week. In in two shows at the state theatre the first show is sold out the second show is space jam. I know of very controversial pick and then we are moving from chicago to berkeley september number thirteenth <hes> portland september fourteenth seattle september fifteenth and a late show in seattle which is going to blow your mind. It's called the visitors so good and we are finally ending in toronto rondo on september twenty eighth you know there are a few of these films that are available not in the most traditional ways and keep on checking h._d. G._m. info vo dot com for how to access them they often require a password but we have a meal link setup so head over h._d._t._v. info dot com to find out more a movie that proves that beauty is only skin deep. Just kidding ugly people deserve nothing there grows we saw the hottie and the nadi so you know what that means <music> it everybody everybody <music> people people full of charleston south carolina. We are so excited to be with you tonight night. Holy cow this movie if you've not seen it. It's one of paris hilton's finer films. It's a love story very akin to the notebook basically a young boy. He has a crush on this first grade crush twenty years later. He goes back back to find her and she has an ugly friend anyway. We'll get into it all but to break it down properly. We're going to do it with my to co host. Please welcome to the stage. Mr jason manziel jerks charleston in this city is hot. Oh holy shit you guys. Don't fuck around with humidity polite city. This is a city you know i know i passed a lovely couple earlier and the woman just said geo storm the lights polite respectful irrespectful kept on walking. I loved it added jason the hottie and the naughty you own this right. Here's the thing did i write this movie. No would i write this movie of course not but i'm so glad it was written and made this movie was trash times a million. This is a movie that feels as though while they were shooting one paris hilton's carl's junior ads lightning struck and instead a movie was born. I would argue there is more artistry in that carl's junior ad then there is in this this certainly more sexual chemistry between perez hilton in that cheeseburger. How dare you jason any of the men in this movie. I would rather i would rather watch paris. Hilton hilton straight up fuck a cheeseburger then watch her kiss anybody in this movie come on this there there is there most of this movie amounts to a crime being committed by everybody well. Let's hold dr thought right there because there's someone else i'd like to introduce you to. She is our other co hosts. Please welcome miss june diane raphael yeah the the welcome june paul how are you. I'm good. Thank you for asking june your thoughts on the haughty in the nadi. Uh so just off the bat i feel i have to say dish ind for the role of the nadi eighty no yes no by the way we are married did not know that until right now. Wow yeah not get it. You didn't i i didn't because i noticed him obviously a lot of makeup and so forth so that wasn't you. I didn't know until just now you had no that wasn't made that was a different actress and i remember because i have such a memory of when the email came in seeing the subject line the hottie and the naughty role june and thinking um this like for you remain secret in hollywood when they named the character after you automatically get <hes> and so i remember i have a memory of because it was one of my first auditions seeing it in thinking. I've been offered a major motion picture. I have arrived in this industry and it's about time a paris hilton joint yen's get the offer were. When do you read the script. Would you read this read the script. I don't think they released script so yeah you gotta keep this. Keep is under. You can't ah visit reveal the plot points. This is avengers endgame level secrecy the reason why they only shot this movie a-block around the santa monica pier the only location in this movie is the pier and literally the houses to the left and right hand side of and there is like no background there is nothing they exist in a vacuum basically. It's if you told me this movie took place in the afterlife. I guess yes i believe you when they have that picnic. They pull out for a wide shot. They're the only two people there it is is if the apocalypse happened and these are literally the last people on earth. I wish so judy. Do you go in to audition well so i remember seeing that i wasn't being offered that. It was an audition and then years ago. That's a pretty bold thing that you you're going to just get an also then i. I don't know how hollywood works at that point so i was so excited and then i saw that i had to audition then i saw the role was described. A wish could find the email it was described as like human garbage garbage and human for my this woman is so disgusting and it hurt that i was being considered at that point at that point where you like glad you didn't get the offer because because then at least tacitly saying can you prove your garbage rather than we've decided your garbage so much so we're going to offer you the part because obviously right right i remember reading the entire paragraph describing june and at the end it said something like comedic and i was like i'll be there when ago if you had one of the most shocking components of this movie was that it was only ten years ago if you had told me. This movie was twenty five. This movie felt felt like it was from twenty years ago or more. The i was shocked that it was as recent as it was because of how insane it is it doesn't posit any any sort of positive role model moral or anything like the takeaway from this movie is bad. Oh yeah it is like romantic comedy. If if if being like a stocker was is the only way to find love like it's a romantic comedy four the criminally insane. I won't even go one step further easy. Everyone in this movie is a straight up psychopath. Yes they all belong in some sort of institution not the same but different institutions each h where they're all heavily medicated for letting they let's say like when harry met sally is a great romantic comedy. We all agree on that. Okay okay now. You've got billy crystal and meg ryan now. They represent these two big characters but then you've got carrie fisher and bruno kirby. You've got people there grounding rounding the world every single other person in this movie bananas straight crazy but can we just go back to the whole premise of this movie is here's a man that has not been able to fall in love because of his crush in first grade raid. I can't tell you anything about my first grade students i was with i can tell you my teacher's name. They didn't even have a friendship yet. He just it was an unrequited crush. It wasn't even like i can't get over my high school girlfriend friend right. Yes maybe i could get onboard for a movie in which you've all her. She did not choose him or whatever they didn't have any kind of friendship or or or anything first grade but he then decides that his failure at love means he has to go back hunter down like like she's big game you tackle her on the boardwalk like he physically tackles every single character in the movie but yes in the movie i wrote down. Why is everyone flying at each other. Yes there's more wire wire work in this movie the matrix the thing that is so troubling is so this crush happened when he was in first grade he then i think moves away or remains ainsi her. A love maine by the way that was not main was here era. Somebody put a blue filter on on l. A. seen chore but he's been carrying around now. I know he was a child too but he's been carrying around photograph of her first grade great. This man should be arrested there. This man is unwell and should be arrested because if you think if any any of you dummies think this guy isn't jerking off to that picture of that little girl you're out of your mind why you out of your goddamn autumn mine south carolina. How would you keep making. Would you keep it on the top of your door and then he goes back home to his friend. Who's a billion times worth of a stalker. Then he is so he enlists the help of i don't know a true monster monster whose mother you should feel rested by the way that mothers should be locked bet mother and all at the time with like exercise video television on the in that house june were you who upset when you saw that picture in the drawer because i know that it really rubbed me the wrong i literally put me at a distance from we'll liking this character yes. That's the appropriate response paul. That is the appropriate response. The friend says he has a line where he says she's been getting hotter and hotter from first grade on there. Are things okay and i do think the writers should be jailed. The director should be jail. These are not. I'm dead serious. These people it is not safe to bring your children up aw years ago. It's only ten years ago that so many hundreds of people looked at this and said yes yes. Yes you know what yes yes paris hilton. Yes millions of dollars has an initiator liz. Yes yes yes and i bled june. Dan rayfield audition yes. Can i just say the thing that is even more disturbing. Yes we can all agree. The picture is as disturbing say no. I mean we even gotten into the nadi whereas one character calls it the nadi nah. I was a nadi nadi a what's his name that one guy called it the nadi like he was thinking differently right. You mean like any any u. G. h. t. y. You gotta get by the naughty naughty. You also edition for this movie these mother fuckers. Let me tell you when i go in to form. I bring my all. I ask them. Do you want me to sit these chandler too much handwork. I know i if i was to audition. I'm sure i would have gotten the guy who was the star trek guy just on the some some at the beginning scenes where they are in flashback and we are seeing the hottie and the nadi horse noise in june big as a child the close ups of that child. This is what i found so confusing about the movie that if i were to see that child i would think there. There's been some major neglect or abuse abuse. Yes terrible has happened and an adult saying well rounded adult. It needs to intervene. We have a situation here agree. High-heeled los angeles. Yes a child has a i think a bloody nose no snow crusted up knows crested up. No the nadi looked like halfway halfway between someone who was homeless and addicted to meth but yet five years old. Here's here's what it would be like as if it would be as if at at the beginning of the movie during that scene the teacher had said hey class. We have a new student. It is someone that has been found as a feral child living now. We have now given her an opportunity to go to school with her parents. Live through chur noble. The mother was pregnant and this is what we got and immediately the teacher would then take a tissue and be like oh don't worry sweetie. I've got that but no this girl's girls aloud to sit in extensively insane conditions physically but again. I wanna talk before get into the naughty. I just want to say the thing that disturbs you. The most is the hottie perez hilton christa belle. I wanna use her her. God given him christabel. She there is no god <hes> she. She has no personality what so ever eber she doesn't even have like. I said you know she doesn't have lines. She doesn't have any kind of demonstrative actually actually argue that the nadi suffers from the same thing beyond being ugly. She also really doesn't have a personality or does the lead that guy either rice. I mean the they're in a world with a mom who watches exercise videos probably has the most i would so much rather have watched a movie about that mother hundred percent because you know she's fucking that sun. You know that's that's what's up you know. Why else does he still living there. He's living there because she's feeding him holiday snacks throughout the year mama uh-huh get. She's yom the assistant stocker activity yeah. She's got that sexual obsession where they want to feed you. Uh um but people are not on board for this incest joke pets okay. We'll get to the end of the show. We'll see how you feel then. That's that says trick by seventy five become the scene of them as kids though you would think you would set up a dynamic that would feel unfinished unfinished for a movie like this. A movie like this usually sets up some sort of unfinished business something to remain unrequited but that's all augie unfinished between first-grader because even sexualizing first graders is a reach to be like in first grade. I was in love where the fuck argue that means zero seven like yeah you like. That's no no no no no no no you could be i remember i add a human figure when i was six or seven. You weren't like i've found true love and i've stunted my growth for twenty plus l. here. All were you in love with a human figure when you punched his chest. It would battle damage. It was really cool. Are we are we to believe that he he can't have a functioning relationship because he is still so obsessed with. Here's the seven year ends with this scene with jane. If you have but june jane this is confusing this fusion so in maine. There's a jane the the main so in maine there's a jane okay and you cut so when you cut it could cut to the what's his name. What's the boy's his name don't know mate when you cut to nate when you cutting mate as an adult in maine. He's playing guitar for his girlfriend jane so he's able to have a relationship relationship. Would you like to notice and where is his income coming from jane. I mean he here's the thing i think he has no job. She has written loser on his car. She is framed as crazy but he is trash so can we. Why can't she be right. Like why does she have to be framed as an insane person who then breaks the guitar over over his head and underwriting team over with a car funny scene the guitar breaking over his head. I was like all like if you gave me multiple choice choice like where does this go. I wouldn't be like she breaks guitar over and said that seems insane. Let's listen to this song though because it's a beautiful song and an it really does come back later in the movie she criers commercials by eighteen. She sobs at the videos on mtv but she says it's got nothing to do with me. She's just in a motion soft mushrooms and cuts loss of the seas and shave my while. I'm fast asleep. Sometimes the princess and a ah sees jones qatar it works. I mean first of all. Why are they all. Why is he wearing full scarf. If and jacquet its main baby and why would that song be appropriate now like i want to believe i wanna live in a world in which jane who is dating here can understand like why is she still with this guy. If she's bathing we have to put in a position where we have to sympathize with him. In its sir i guess yeah in the very uncomfortable position of having to get on board with him early in the movie so that when he humiliates this woman and calls her ugly and reacts to her you're in such an outlandish way so many times we can understand him in align ourselves with him as an audience and his dream to just get the hot hot like none of it. It's like it's not doing any of the correct work to get him. You know what i mean like. I hear you're you're saying and i agree with everything but again they go out of their way to make him unlikeable because when he does meet perez hilton the first move is to sniff her hair her to sniff her hair while she's running hard it is to sniff someone while they're running hear hear me out that year nineteen eighty the lady jackie joyner-kersee the olympics was i on the field not yes but they make him so hard to like because these things that we know of him growth and his character i mean i don't know what he's offering to her really if anything zero he is trash she literally at the end of the movie parasol like you're not talented talented. You're not you're not. You don't know that tractive angie like though yeah i am better than you and then later on goes but you know that's what love is like you accept people for their flaws like no the way that she describes it. It's like you accept people for being garbage like there's. I don't even understand why there is nothing about him. That is a sincere or real or he is. Just he's a terrible person because he's operating. He's operating the way that someone who is like mental illness operating like a stalker. He's operating eating like someone who would be like of course. I mean your house. This is our house. We live here like whenever he's caught out his justifications might as well be the those types well. We live here. This is where i live in. This is what what i do and i belong thing. It's a much more interesting movie to actually understand understand. I mean i guess they posit this narrative of like every hoti has a noddy which like just never heard that narrative before in the world but when i first i saw the title of the movie in my email i thought again never having read the script that it was it was more an not having seen the trailer that it was it was going to be focused on the relationship between the two of them which to me would've actually been very interesting to see how this relationship is codependent a and what they're getting from each other which right now i have no idea i have no idea and then to see like how it might change if june it's hard hard that it's the same name as her but if she became more conventionally attractive and appealing to men what would happen to parasites. I character but to center the whole thing around. This motherfucker was so into have to watch which i mean it just kept on thinking watching it like to have the confidence of a mediocre white man the it was i have to say on like my own personal journey with this film was that i should feel way better about myself and have a lot more confidence in the world. Here's what was it can. I just say like the normal. I guess trajectory that i thought the movie would take it is that he would find that even though maybe in the beginning he wasn't attracted to the naughty that he actually has more connection to her and then he falls in love with her but not that she would get a makeover and then she'd be equally attractive bears elton and then it would be okay that he would fall in love with her. It defeats the whole purpose purpose of the movie. It's sort of like well yeah. When you get hot yeah totally fuck you too yeah exactly grew. That's my art my if you get hot i'll fuck you before when you were a frog not interested you've turned into a princess boehner town. Let's do this and that's so crazy about him sort of indicting johan. He's no better than yoho anything angry that he wouldn't let this woman losing virginity to johan. We wanna hang on a pedestal either. I mean put him on a pedestal because johan is like i searched searched the world for ugly girls that i can create an image that i wanna fuck then fought them and they're grateful. That's david kronenbourg movie v._i._p. Watch i'm not saying i want her to fall in love with you on and really get her heartbroken but for first sexual experience i was absolutely on board for having that with johann i really was what are we talking about here like how dare he after all this ruin that for her this none of them ever okay. Every single man in this movie is a villain a movie about billons. Their plans are nefarious. They have files of material on these women. They have websites websites dedicated to where they are. When there is he sits on a bench of other stalkers who we are meant to believe are adorable and harmless across from another bench of stockers who wear also meant to believe adorable and harmless paris hilton leaves is in a prison where she is surrounded by men who will not will not leave her alone so much so that they follow her sniff her tackle her the only reasonable ending for this movie once he tackles her on the beach is she's dead by by the end of the movie is not cool. She should be dead shaef anything. I wanted to scream at her. Stopping gauging these people the albino guy the guy with this disturbing like all of them men are villains that we are supposed to think our heroes villains and then the women women will not see them as such they only see they only see the men as potential heroes but i mean that was the most disturbing thing at the end of the film mm spoiler alert when when when nate breaks up with paris hilton he like the the break-up scene were they ever -together author perez hilton's reaction to it is so like oh okay she literally goes but i love you and now you can go into my laundry closet which which seems like the wrong fantasy that were telling like it's like when you fund the hot girl get ready because she's going to have a closet full of lingerie and so you get the picket walk-in closet a walking closet very large array is displayed a as if it was on display in the store. 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They then got to be onset saying the lines in someone said we got it but i got a we got it moving on on i will say i know we have been bagging on this movie a little bit but i will say a little bit a little bit. You might have noticed we've been a little negative on this movie but i wanna say i wanna talk about the term restraint and this movie uses restraint because in that yoga seen the fact that the nadi did not far in his face <music> when you could have easily done that you know they did it in eighty are they recorded it. I will say i will say i loved how many were in this movie. I laughed a number of times at all the farts because see sometimes even a dumb movie gets it right right when we started and then said don't worry. It's not the smelly kind i was like. I was like come on. That's it no. This is the movie this right here. This is the movie well away. Perez hilton spent the whole movie shitting or pants and that's something something he had to deal with. What if the hoti is incontinent now now. Let's take this and she's like. I'm gonna need to be wiped and cleaned like a baby by the way not not into it. Paris hilton still single paris hilton changing those diapers ladies. I would say if she wasn't continent. Paris hilton would not take care of her because parasol is a bad friend. She never is helping this person the only time that will because the look at the way that that she dress it. Let's get some nice form fitting yoga closer. Let me hall time out what yeah time out. I just feel like she. Let's see oh paul te'o. I just feel like he's in the corner. Now is actually one of the few things that i liked about their relationship. That paris never are said to her tried to change your tried to get her to dress differently in fact what i think paris hilton says in the movie is that ninety five percent of the way people view you. You is how you view yourself while she also says this thing about earth suits. This was june. Some people think our bodies are like an art suit a vessel that carries her soul until you pass on from this plant went into the next dimension. I don't even know what that means her on this one. I'm just trying to help okay beauty standards at work here right the men in the movie think they are god's gift and they are disgusting. Men in this movie are disgust except for the hung in terms of are you saying in terms of personality ever in terms of look agree. There will be hunky right but we we don't really we don't go to lengths to examine the disproportion amount of attention that's on women's bodies in this movie as opposed to the men who are yes of course the hunk is more conventionally attractive but there are men in this movie who should be receiving the same amount of investigation. They participating needs to shave that goatee. The fed defected bait boldly says to paris hilton. I'm a personal trainer and she doesn't look at him and say you're a fucking liar out of my face get out of your he then shows up to yoga in jeans the sorry you are not any kind of personal trainer. You're a fucking psychopath. Usually when there's a disparity thirty one party is making up for the their aesthetic with a personality charm came saying this. This guy is not only not attractive but he is his personality is disgusting first of all what doing could we break down. What what is his personality besides being stocker. Let's go his personality is he is a liar. He is a stocker. He does not have a job but he's able to pay for a two thousand dollars. Spa gift certificate. His car is terrible winger like maybe able to pay. Maybe he hasn't spa but not just a simple paid job. Yeah got out. Maybe hashtag. Jane was right. You know maybe jane headed right. He is just a loser. Get out of here but she loved him for a long time. He drives that car. Nobody else in the movie paris hilton nobody's hey. Why does it say loser on your car. What's <hes> what's what's what's up with that. Can we talk about the guy that he rain the ropes. In coal coal goals lawson. This movie has at least six to eleven times where he makes up things just by looking taken around and cole slaw sin slauson causing committed to it hard so the whole time they have to go back to that joke. Oh oh jason that's me. I wanted to ask you. You know coleslaw sin goals lesson whereas a fanny pack in this movie fisherman's vest. You're going to get anything when when you saw i saw on him. 'cause it's a pretty big fanny pack big. It was too big didn't like it too big too big back to coleslaw salsa call slauson fanny pack on him well coleslaw and i wanna get into him because he's a misunders into kohl's lawson a man a man whose character name is made up and we never learn his real name. He's not worth knowing his name. Okay so so call sawssen season at that nate puts up the addison's volunteers needed medical experimentation make five hundred dollars per week parttime evenings and weekends testing may include skin biopsies sleep studies with persistent and unrelenting shocks and ainley but i don't think it's spelled spelled right. It's like it's like how how would you say that that is supposed to be injected and bacteria but ainley finally is not how you spell. It is an area l. e. y. Yeah it's not right and only with placebo what drus treated with placebo drugs so i guess maybe you wouldn't get better airbase this. Here's the thing about this. This should have been used as a clue by police. This should have been aclu used by police nate ceiling live and die in l._a. The podcast we're where does he have this five hundred dollars from and where did you get the two thousand from. He's spending so much money just just to i don't know what he what does he think. I would have loved to scene where he's alone with his thoughts being like nee. What are you doing. What what are we doing. What are we doing too far coleslaw and he just who he puts rocks his pockets and walks out into the ocean. Also the question is never asked of june so coleslaw sin of course like sees her and i guess he was trying to set up an even worse scenario you but sees her is sick to his stomach is very disturbed but we never we. The question is never asked of june soon to like kim right. She has no agency and no choice in the matter of these souders. I was thinking existent a world in which you are so ugly. You're lucky to get any guy that comes along and you better just take it or whatever who knows what just put heavy rock and your pockets and walk into the ocean. I mean jason there is a world in which we can posit a jacob's ladder scenario that he was hit and killed by his girlfriend in that first scene never make this this will allow this. I will allow oh this. We didn't see him literally. Get hit by the jacob's ladder scenario works here because because she hits him with with such force with the car and he is struck by the car then goes underneath it and then pops out to the side like what happened to me. He should be very grievously injured if not straight up de ville so this can be then if by the way if this movie ended with just we're losing. We're losing. It would have been amazing. The last image he sees is christabel. She's now an e._r. Doctor and she's pumping his heart and that was it dies yeah yeah. She couldn't save them so anyway coal. I like that other weight loss in. I just want to talk about this. Movie came out in two two thousand and eight. He sees that ad really deliberate to <hes> picks it then immediately runs to a a pay phone right for this plan to work the person you to pick the thing he and i guess he has to watch because i guess the number is a dummy dummy number yeah the internet. Just be a cell phone. This is a movie that in two thousand eight the internet doesn't exist. You know what nate cooper never does. Google goal the perez hilton character the guy the creep even says you should check out the website. There's even more website more so than the file so this guy's been building a a creep website about christabel and then nave is like nate never google's anything knickknacks never use it. Nobody ever uses the internet to do anything and christabel. L. has a minimum six seven stockers a day waiting for one that she's a really fun flirty relationship with the albino eh one of whom has a sign that just says marry me right and he holds the sign up when she's jogging and there's a cut out for his chin. There's a cutout where his chin goes and i was like ooh. That's pacific that the sign is lived in now really bothered me june. I don't wanna put you on the spot but you are runner. What did you think of paris hilton's running running in this move. There were so many arms and it was just it was very slow. I mean there's a point where she's running and he's walking behind her. Trust the at such a slow pace but she still keeping up jog talking. He's fully walked. Walk me so angry about that. Whole opening run is the portrayal of this woman the expectations that are set upon her her she's being stalked by these men so many so many men and details her running route and she has a restraining order against some of them and she's happy as a fucking her guys she knows all of them by name which is itself chilling. These are all men who will murder her. Yes chance if given the chance they would happily murder -solutely it just just so that they can see if she's as pretty on the inside by the way by the way i did. I did think there is a a missed opportunity when the dad and the wife or walking with the stroller. I really wanted him to push the wife stroller. It's the same did anyone else notice. There was no child stroller. Dad was one of those. Let's hope oh. I don't like that at all. I don't want that for them. <hes> all right so we're going to give yourself. Hypnosis works perfectly goals lawson so coleslaw and goes over to kripo number twos and they're hypnotize ing him but also the mom is getting hypnotized. I tell me more about that. I mean listen. I'm interested only because the mom's involved in the kitchen and there will hypnotize you and the moms like <hes> oh. I thought they were gonna also hypnotized her. Some mom has a subsidiary gets me charleston. I'm home. Thank thank you june. How do you feel about moving to charleston. Yes i don't see that i have the pineapple the pineapple so they're hypnotizing him with an hypnotize ing for dummies book and a large. Did you shocking device. They are actively trying to kill coleslaw sin active they they have they have hooked him up to an electric electric chair scenario. They are trying to hit it. They're trying to use oh. I don't care. I hated this aylesbury. They're trying to condition him to think that june the naughty is hot by showing him a picture of a sexy space alien and by the way it works it. It works instantly. It works instantly coming in candidate provide minutes. Yes yes. I can tell you about the time that i watched the mandatory in candidate. We were in a hotel room and <music>. The brightness on the t._v. Was turned all the way down. We watched all of metric anyway. It's an interesting choice. Director made their shoot it. The barely see it and we're like what's happening now. I don't know oh that's the message. It's sort of like it's murky in this brainwash gay. I love it when you are. You just knew enough in a relationship that you don't wanna say something's wrong that you just want to justify the incorrectness of something i did the same thing i went to a concert with a woman wants to see the replacements and kept insisting that i love this song but then it was one of the opening bands and then <music> another i mean i i was in ninth grade or something. Another band came and i was like well this is the replays is not the replacements. It happened twice. I was like look. You're in ninth grade but you refer to her as a woman with that. I said i love that. You were in ninth grade but you referred to her. As a woman of course of course course with big g._e.'s she was like she was a beautiful beautiful woman. Big sloppy lobby titties right cool. Did i get it beat s. t. b. s. t. I will say one thing about this movie to besides that running scene with perez hilton. This movie is all about people sitting down. Everyone's sitting in this movie cameras. All all time removes too expensive. They really are so yeah he's hypnotized and now he's in love with the noddy and then he whips out the star trek shit like where he starts referring to her like a board and like she's the queen but i'm realizing now saying it it's because they showed him the picture of space lady sleeplessly out but i guess they couldn't use a real star trek but you're because that costs money so we just had to like <music> justify that that was a picture and i know my star trek picture your space ladies. I know that was an alice krugg doug from star trek nemesis insurrection one of those the one with the board. Do you wanna take a minute and figuring out i believe it is insurrection because nemesis i think is the one with per card is fighting card which is eric bana right first contact. That's it sorry you really are home. These fucking nerds gets you man charleston thin thin my town. Let's go get biscuits later in the shopping area. I loved his. There's a there were there was a thing that made me laugh but then i was like why did they do this. This is a bit that i would want the movie to do but it did did it. Which shocked me which is nate is on the phone with what's his buddies name the arno thank you pull back to reveal arnott's on the toilet finishes the call <hes> then audible fart who drop you hear him you in this movie you hear a man shit now sometimes in movies by the you'll hear a fart rarely rarely. Do you hear someone actively shit into a toilet. That is it diarrhea. It's not like oh boy boy. It is just how each and every one of us turns into the toilet at night. He's just like okay. I'll talk to you later. You know what i got to say about that jason after seeing that scene xena one thing i wanted to say about that that's hot salt harris healton quote. Thank you june. You put your head down during that whole description corruption didn't care for that jason and care for that at all <hes> we all. We all like different things move now. I just feel like eighty. I'm not i'm not into potty humor. I guess what i did find out just because i was curious about it. I was like that's one. Hundred percent in eighty are joke. Nope that guy. I actually shit toilet in that moment he said i want you to michael this toilet. I'm gonna i'm gonna throw up this hot. Do they had had problems with the camera that day so the do it. Seventeen times live yup eating. If you want to eat in a scene you have to eat in every week so you're gonna moving off that was so interesting about the movie i mean they go to such lengths to japan over june's disgusting body right they really spend their time and also pairs is gorgeous body and yet they do show restraint much like the fart joke. They just go for in yoga when they go when they are panning up her bathing suited body <music> her. Bush's kept together quite nicely which i was surprised about. You wanted to see hair's not that. I wanted to see <music>. You're saying you wanted there to be pubic hair pouring out of her bathing suit. That's what you june. Diane radio wanted in the movie. This is a shocking walking reveal. We are aligned on this. We seen up until them. I thought for sure when when we get to her bush it's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be hilarious. Told told her hair is a problem yes that her hair is out of control that it's that electrolysis that lasers are not helping and so. I was curious what what's going to be like well. I couldn't couldn't see anything completely. No and i'll be honest. I went frame by frame. Anything's training really zoom in there. I was like siri. Enhance siri enhanced quadrant three a tremendous tremendous restraint shown. Is this character. I tip my hat to the filmmakers. I think june june. I watch us together and yeah. I think i would like to just talk for a second about johann. Who i think is a pretty solid performance agree funny and i didn't know oh. I didn't know which way he was going to go. I didn't rate actually played great by. He didn't really tip intention was which was much more pervy earlier than what you thought thought it was like if it was just a to treat her to get to paris that would gross but this was more like serial killer like i'll make her into what i want and then she'll be mine like weird. I did not like that at all question. I thought that the nadi not when she is transformed is more attractive than paris hilton. Of course you say of course but i i i don't think the perez hilton's in on that equation like i don't think the parents so you'll be really hot and your friend gets hot and then she'll be hotter than i don't think that that was told to. I don't know what men think they don't want to know. I don't wanna know but i mean when i look at the two of them. I really don't wanna know there's no. I don't know based on this movie. I think they're insane and disgusting and everyone's what's interesting. What's interesting in this movie is paris. Hilton is rejected by both men which is why i thought the movie was full on going for oh. Oh paris hilton ends up with johan and nate realizes true love win nate and june start dancing at the bar and they share a moment and it seems as as though these people who've been hanging out all this time have like a love at first sight moment where they're dancing and getting along and i was like oh what's going to happen is they'll realize we'll weird. We should be together and they are going gonna go off and be together and everybody ends up where they should be in blah blah blah but instead it's just becomes johan and nate one june and perez hilton is just kind of like but i don't you get the sense that she's okay with that. Oh yes. She literally says she'll worry me. I have lots of data options but yet she's been here. We understand that. She is not a lot lot of action as she says twice. I don't get a lot of but that's only because she says no because of june she's like. I said that i'm not gonna do anything until june. Finds got it okay so she. She's getting object. She's not leads to them saying she's not only smoking hot. She's also extremely horning and i was like what the fuck is this. It is surprising to me that this movie was written by a woman. Yes i wrote i times sometimes it is not possible. This is a woman writing this movie. I'm not surprised i mean the patriarchy is a smog. We all breathe even before we cut to commercial. I just want everyone to know the patriarch is the smog we all breathe in is quote from britney. Pack nets support for today's show comes from new starbucks. 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It's like i'm giving my body a damn treat anyway by my favorite you want to know my favorite is i'll tell you transfer no. I'm i said french ethin- vanilla anyway find it in your local grocery store convenience store. Enjoy drinking on down that burst to do the things that you need to do. Starbucks bucks triple shot energy and now back to more hoti and the naughty. Let's go to the audience to see what you have up to say about the nadi all right so ma'am your name and your question. I'm rachel from columbia. I have to preface a couple bowl things so bear with me. I have this has to make the podcast because my seven year old would only let me come if brent brent to brag about to his second grade class or well. This is going to be the talk of the second grade class. Please don't let them listen to this episode connects. I do remember my first grade crush he had my sister says he had a cool laid mustache at all times. Okay time my question is are we ignoring the fact that this guy drove the car all the way to l._a. The i wrote that too. I said there's no way that car makes brand new ford focus. That would never make it. L. and you're not even coming from that far. You're coming just from charleston. You came from maine. That's a bigger trip correct. I had a huge problem. I'm witness. Your problem with this. Movie is correct your main problem with this movie. Was that a way late. Model ford focus would not be able to drive cross country. I mean i loved it. That's your problem but this movie's got bigger fish to fry. Paul can ask you a question. I did like it. Can you ask as the question. First grade crushes name. You got it do you. You remember your first grade crushes name. No and your don't mean to put you on the spot but you're young yes. How old are you fourteen. Okay okay fourteen. How many teenagers in the house about four yards just freaked out all right. What's her name emerson emerson. What's your question so after the not e- gets gets hot. I'll say it so thank you is shaping young minds this movie adding it is reversing whoa kness she. She says that she does she was hit by with ratail mullet. It would be great question and i'm gonna put that i'm going to put that to to june. Who has all of our our hair answers. What does a rat tail june. I don't ever want to know i don't ever want short in the front and then a long rat tail mullet. It sounds horrible fraud rat in the back sir question. My question is has the line. A life without orgasms is a life without flowers. Do you actually believe that yes what hold on hold on hold on hold on sir sir sir. Can i ask you a question. Sir hang on oh it. Is your wife in the box with you and ma'am. She is man hold on a man. Though are you okay. Do you want to live a life without orgasms well. He said we have two kids. We had sex twice but that's not answering the question. That's the problem apple of that's the problem. He thinks because they had sex twice she had an orgasm. She just got pregnant because you did don't make muscles. Don't make muscles now. Ma'am this man feel about me man. Do you agree with perez hilton sure she that should be commie. People agree with perez hilton that a life without orgasm is a life without flowers. That's not enough people. Just it's not coming what's happening. I'm worried about you guys. I feel like the overwhelming blooming. Nature is like orgasms over it. It's a myth female orgasm. It's a myth i'm deeply concerned. I am worried about you especially you him another way. It could be another way. She is furious on the ride home tonight. She's like why did you fucking say that. I never ever thought he was gonna come over to the balcony side box. Yeah double mussels come on before we get into other other people's thoughts about this film. Let me tell you a couple of things about this film. The director of this film only head directed documentary. Ah before this interesting so that's that interesting and some of the tagline for the film were sure. Do you want to take a guess. Guess harry situation junior right there. I was gonna say she's ten. She's a negative zero something like that. I thought you were close like she's. She's hot. She's not he's nuts. Okay then there is that that's hot. That's not and then finally hilton's tagline at the time and love never needed to be so blind those are some of the for the lines are overtly cruel indeed now. Obviously we had an opinion about this film but there are people out there with a different opinion is now time for second opinions. I hadn't muted in the past. I've had a have aide scrutinizing films on amazon but now i've dropped the ball aren't giving them five stars from cobra congo toys to leprechaun email <music> who'd i fortunately have my own opinion a weapon that i use to help harass the erudite and deep that just a bunch of sheets they wouldn't know art of embiid them on the ads. Come on you taught me <music>. They say this film's not a winner at at almost made me hurl and mock them. Yes of course you unfortunate trolls <music> goals such as reviews. If you go digging for a plot my dear you're gonna find some holes if you need a boost of confidence golan along remove them mall doing jason now. I've got me oh with speed two cruise. Can you you given the work charleston. Those were great good work charleston elston your hometown as my hometown all right so these are five star reviews cold from amazon. Let me give you some stats here about the film thirty nine reviews for this film thirty nine a real record low <hes> thirty six our five star reviews thirty six percents okay here we go <hes> the first one this one from chrissy. W says highly recommend for fourteen enrolled so that goes to you that kid gets it. Those nerds get it starts off. This is written by hi alan and alan says okay. Let's be fair here. Ben majority of the bad reviews came from people who have not watched the movie and door have cold hearts. I watch a movie with an open mind and guess what i loved it. The character of june in quotes was done well but i felt like they went a little overboard with her flaws. I know oh girls that have friends like that and it was pretty much on par with how they act. I'd be bitter and angry to any <music> and bitter and angry anyway super cute movie any decent person would appreciate it even if you do not not like paris hilton which i personally do not like nor dislike. She's quite pretty but my goodness june turned out to be gorgeous. Five stars seems like one of the characters from that movie this. I'm bringing up this person. The person reviewers name is sexy. That's the reviewers name and the title is as close to paris hilton as you can get unless you know her daily chinnery. This is as close to cheeky perez hilton as you can possibly get far from being a rich spoiled. Brat peres got natural talents as an entrepreneur that i admire. She's a natural actress very comfortable in front of a camera very cool very calm very cheeky and captivating. I enjoy this movie from its beginning. What i liked. Were the themes theme number one paris's character being faithful to someone unfortunate. I wonder if peres can stay in a long term relationship in real life theme remember to paris's philosophy about the human soul versus body and how we look on the outside we do not have a a soul theme number three the revealing flashback storytelling technique that is used to explain the present relationship chip in relation to the past recommended recommended viewing shallow hal five stars ars. Wow now now nick kylie pulled up sexes page nine nine. There's three hundred and forty seven reviews of sexy and it really goes deep into the wormhole. I don't want in your browser. Sexy gets into the are disturbing the are but if you want to have a fun treat treat yourself to sexy reviews on amazon three hundred and forty seven of them. They're they're this. This is a real person. I don't even wanna look like they're almost too disturbing to read <hes>. Let's see a couple of things here. I wanna tell you about that. I really like about this movie. <hes> first of all the budget and we'll take a guess two thousand eight has an eight. I'm going to say eleven million dollars. I think it's more it's so but keep in mind how few locations there are how many interiors how much nobody he has a quote like what spending money thirty million whoa nine million dollars nine million dollars domestic growth twenty seven thousand dollars raising thirty million is because i bet she is paris. Hilton is an international star whether we like it or not ought we do time especially especially an article in the houston chronicle determined that based on box box office receipts and average twenty eight people perth theatre saw this movie on opening. Here's what i here's my conjecture my belief is that the the people that watch this movie because of this podcast will double the net value we will. This is the challenge. Let's double how much the hot in the nadia's made by the way that that number they gave you that meant that five people went to eat showing the movie five or less shot in five weeks too many this deal those it's not making me feel better in paris. Hilton scouted locations. The film and here is the one fact that i love the most the film was released in the united kingdom and it was advertised as the number one film and then smaller print revealed. It was the number one in the intermittent movie database's bottom one hundred which was true at the shit. This movie was given a razzie awards and one razzie awards for worst actress. Worst on-screen screen couple was nominated for worst screenplay worst picture and worst director and this movie came in four hundred sixty two out of all the movies made in two thousand and eight the top three movies of two thousand eight the dark knight ironman indiana jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull. This movie was beaten by the love guru eight minutes punisher war zone and it beat nothing that we have done on this podcast jason june would would you recommend this film. I'm not gonna lie. Absolutely not. I mean i mean if you could maybe if you're gonna watch it for this. Show watch it but like at this at whenever the point comes when you're watching it that you like you know what i don't wanna watch this anymore. Turn it off because it's also way longer than you think it is and i believe if you don't have anyone to minutes so long. I believe to have watched it. Put you on a list. I believe they're tracking people that complete this film june usually when i had dishes for role. Don't i get it. I i do like to hate. Watch that thing and just watch. It angrily and i didn't feel that watching this movie. Maybe i felt such relief watching this for the podcast and then watch it. I guess make sure your children are are nowhere near this movie agree. That's what i get concerned about that their young minds watching it i it. It actually should be burned. Never seen it's you're saying that this should be like removed moved from exists believe in censorship but in this case this one case you want people to be burning copies of hoti and the nadia in this case they'd be open to it irresponsible for the last line of your movie to be. You're out of breath. What was that calling back. The movie ends like a bar closing that it's like we're having fun. Lights on what oh okay we gotta go. God good sorry that last moment in the wide shot they pull away and is supposed to be this romantic shop between the two of them she sitting on the edge of the bench so awkwardly and he's leaned over to kiss her. They look so uncomfortable. Yes the only way it could have been better is if they lean in for we're kissing and if she said last line of the film oh that was a smelly one the i i am going to <hes> disagree with my two close. I recommend this film. If you like love stories like the notebook gross out humor like garbage pail kids. This is the film for you. I wish this movie had characters that had alzheimer's. I wish i had alzheimer's and couldn't forget. I watched this movie. I loved the film. It made me so happy to be married to a wonderful woman them not in this crazy dating world because this is like that h._b._o. Show euphoria oh my god do. I'm not get me involved in this crazy dating world because i'd have to be stocking people off running. Why do you keep talking about not wanting to get involved in the crazy dating world not not a big deal hang out tonight and charleston now on get involved in that crazy dating world june family together. We sir what's going on now. They don't wanna get involved and go out dancing and get crazy dating go to a good old caf- cafe f._a. Can't the crazy dancing in charleston is that someplace called the good old cafe. I wanna get on one of those kirschstein. Purpose tonight ended up wherever they're gonna dock tomorrow. You'd be so far for your hometown of charleston. Don't wanna get crazy. Don't go on one of those late night. Romantic goes doors. Don't wanna do it. This is also specific wealth out paul. It sounds like these these are all things. You're going to do tonight wanting to stay as far away from it as i can. Don't wanna have a burner phone in my pocket you don't want to because you asked me to hold it in my fanny pack. Let's talk about it after the show. Thank you everybody for coming you did you did it charleston. You have been fantastic. Ask the crowd. That's our show reminder. That june's book comes out this tuesday. It's called represent a woman's guide to running for office and changing the world. I can't recommend this book enough june amazing job with it. It's funny. It's informational. It's such a good read. I left wanting to run for office. I'm being very sincere ends here. I was blown away by this book. It comes out this tuesday september third. Pick yourself up a copy. It's reasonably priced and then bring it out on tour because we are on tour made is on tour go into chicago. We're going to berkeley. We're going portland seattle and we are also going to toronto. <hes> we'll be out there. You can get all all the info for tickets at h._d._t._v. g._m. Info dot com a big thanks to april haley our producer who picks all of the films for all of these live shows and this show hoti and the naughty. It's we have a very special shirt right now available in the public store that's right. We have disgusting toenail shirt from the nadi <hes>. It's so gross you go go to public dot com slash story slash a._t._m. 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It's gonna be great enjoy that and then stay tuned for me on the following friday for the actual haughty and the naughty minneapolis a big thanks to devon our engineer who traveled across country with us out there doing the the work on a wednesday night. How how did this get made so much fun out there on tour and cody fisher our producer here in l._a. We love them all. Thanks so much. We'll see you next week bye bye. Eh hi. I'm nick nick turner and we are the hosts of get rich nick for this podcast. We're out there in the world trying every get rich quick scheme to tell you guys which which ones actually work and which ones are your tank like donating plasma online poker task rabbit riding e books betting on the ponies going on ebay background ground extra making money from metal detectors lemonade stands selling in the backyard trivia nights from the backyard. We're walking. Dogs on rover are playing video games for cash. 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The King Of The Forest

Bad In The Boondocks

40:53 min | 1 year ago

The King Of The Forest

"<music> <music> welcome to bad in the Boondocks is always on one of Yo stand and I'm drew as always. We are super glad that you're here. Yes it's really nice. We are actually back at our home in South Carolina and it's really nice to be back home recording in our thirty supposedly studio but we've been in motel rooms the past two episodes so we're back feeling I'm feeling by alrighty. Let's lease out will our Lovin. Thank you so much of the people that left us some five star reviews this past two weeks on among Appalachians or the apple podcasts whatever it is. I don't have apple they. I don't hear that I do like apple cider but there were what has to do that. Were a couple of people they left really great review so please keep those coming. It really really does help the show out. If if you do anything besides subscribe and listen that would be thing to do please leave a good review on whatever platform that you're yes. We love to hear him. Just love it. Also I'm right now. In the process of making a online store it will be on a website there we will have merch for Y'all will always be selling Stanley well. Since you interrupt every time I'm saying I don't even knowing and I dan here. <unk> shirts Malvo Tale that after I'm finished talking about the store so you really don't have Dan Rupp me all the time will anyways you continue on that there we will oh have cups cosies sharps as well as hats Cubans and more to come in the future. Maybe aright. That's pretty cool. <hes> let's Z.. Another thing now no other things I will all you can visit our paper. Yeah you can visit our patriots. <hes> you can also follow us on twitter. Maybe leave a slack comment or something might not also you can follow some instagram as well held up. Do even go to instagram well. I don't make mainly as just the twitter facebook. I'll check facebook game facebook or are you can just email us at Ben. The boondocks Jima Dot Com all right okay all righty in. I do believe that it is Matt after a gopher system that is still in the man all all right now. I met like okay. I got you feel you. You caught my eyes throughout their cult. Dan Command <unk>. Whatever okay let's get into it well today? I will be talking about Jerry Michael Hilton Really Yeah chose to do Carolina Story. This is is North Carolina those born in Florida we have view other states but they're also other states sure but <hes> a lot of people request for more southern stuff and lives as low band Dan the man this little bit weirder but anyways I also had a little southern case for you as well so I deliver as well just delivered slate. Whatever are premature okay anyway you continue well you know as well as the risks of blisters exposure getting lost boredom on the trail injury attacks by wild animals by burs? What are you going with this altitude sickness? What does that have to do with anything? Thanks when you venture out into the great outdoors. There is the remote chance you could be one of the unlucky ones who bumps into a serial killer that is true Gary Michael Michael Hilton seventy-one the so-called National Forest serial killer is notorious for committing a series of murders in the wilderness areas some involving hikers between two thousand seven seven in two thousand and eight the murder of Meredith Emerson is an incredible story of a woman who bravely fought off a depraved maniac and managed to stay alive for over three days in his company heart killing ultimately led to his arrest. Please quick telling me to come closer to the Mike. I'm looking to knows what I need to do. Thank you okay whatever he gone. Every we podcast you just continue go. Thank you fuck you to in two two thousand seven Healton killed John and Irene Bryant they were eighty and eighty four years old in North Carolina's Pisgat National Forest Cheryl Hodges dunlap forty six years old and Florida's Florida's Appalachicola national forest and in two thousand eight brutally murdered Mayor Tope Emerson Twenty four in Georgia's Chatahoochee national forest way way down the road. It gets hotter prior to this. He is believed to have killed Retana Miliani Twenty six Michael Lewis Twenty seven and possibly many others as it seems unlikely he would have begun as murder spree that lightness life as seventy one but you know I make some people like that is pretty old yeah but it may be it was a bucket list thing you know how the people have all these things they WANNA do. They put them on their bucket list for when they retire. Maybe he retired light. These like hope I WANNA kill people. Dom <unk> crossed that off of <unk> bucket list. Uh I guess get field I am but I mean like that on their bucket list besides him tonight on mine. I'm no I believe it really is okay anyway. Ah Fuck it list not a bucket list. He was finished to life in prison in Georgia January thirty first two thousand eight he was sentenced to death in Florida on April twenty first of two two thousand nine eleven and sentenced to four live sentences in North Carolina on April twenty fifth twenty thirteen will in nineteen fifty nine when he was thirteen years old Gary Hilton shot and wounded Nao D. bag his stepfather who in Gary's mine had taken away his mother he decided to to give his stepson a second chance in refused to press charges. If it was may present than George Ghana instead Gary was sent to a local mental hospital was later released but despite the crime in nineteen sixty three seventeen year old Gary Hilton successfully enlisted in the U._S. Army and sent to West Germany as part of the Davy Crockett platoon. I'm just GONNA say right now and I've never been into army. It can handle it okay. I have have depression and mental health issues too. I'll be like nope kate serve thanks very much involved but it seems to me the Army a navy and air force. I don't screen. They're people very well they really. I think that they just let whoever <unk> join come in but who really knows it really is stay to next week while we solve the mystery a few years into a service Hilton began hearing voices and was diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was put into to another mental hospital and was given an honorable discharge. He left the army in nineteen sixty seven after this he married three times but he had no children. Somebody shooting blanks in nineteen sixty nine. John Susu into call county Georgia divorced in Nineteen Seventy one in Miami Florida then on the twenty four the ball did nineteen seventy seven two Dinah Avante ball in dekalb county. County Georgia and divorced on May sixteenth of nineteen seventy-eight and the third time was in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine to betty sue networks purity officer for Atlanta's stole Mount Park divorced I October twenty four nineteen seven nine Hilton was a lover of outdoors and often went out with his dog dandy. Come Air Dandy. What is wrong with you? This would have become his killing ground as others enjoyed hikes in the forest in mountains of the southern United States Samuel Rail a lawyer and the producer you saw the nineteen ninety-five independent movie deadly run said Hilton a formal legal client of his came up with the plot of the movie which is about a serial killer who holds women captive in the woods C. C._I._O.. And Watch out if you want to my lord this really the plot summary of the movie respected in very wealthy Atlanta Georgia area realtor bobby wills and has a wife son and daughter but does some things unknown to them. He has a cabinet on a rural trat two hundred miles so the north to where he often flies his airplane carrying abducted minimally minimally attached females males who he there releases as game and fatally hunt some a girlfriend of victim convinces a cop to help close in all Bobby Meredith Emerson from Buford Georgia. I loved set at Beaufort from Buford decided to go for a high with her dog Ella on January first New Year's Day of two thousand eight to Blood Mountain in the chattahoochee national forest. The place name of the location of her hike was to become APP blood. Mountain is the highest peak on the Georgia section of the Appalachian Trail and the Sixth Tallest Mountain in Georgia with an elevation of four thousand four hundred fifty eight feet it is located on the border of Lumpkin County with Union County and is within the boundaries of the Chattahoochee National Forest and the Blood Mountain wilderness hot near Meredith left a message for roommate on the board saying can hocken hope you have fun when Mayor Fifth didn't show up work January second her friends and boyfriend became concerned and began a search of areas she had marked in various hiking boots. They eventually came across Meredith's car part. In the Blood Mountain altro hit Eerie Meredith appeared to have met Gary and has dogged Dandy on the trail and struck up a conversation boss Walkin gather at some point Hilton attacked meredith with a knife but but she bravely fought back she was a blue belt AAC Yukido Shuki no asper let it to touqan nothing. This is Hugh Canedo alpay okay. That's how you say. They believe it is kate. Y You boil k y you you key though Kito or something like that Yukido better gotcha okay. What are you going having studied at Ak F- Athens Georgia but eventually she was overcome as Hilton also carry a police baton time on that same day in that same day biker in X. is cop? Seth blankenship was walking trail and noted it had been torn up like there have been a fight with water bottles a leather dog leash sunglasses a police baton and a women's hair borate on the ground. Tom Earlier blankenship saw toothless elderly man with achieved police baton walking near Young Woman caring that leash while at Dutton that just sound like pure six field a a toothless elderly that that is what the Dane at all for you really go for the <unk> Bang Bang Right. He mistakenly thought they might be a father dollar. He got a gut feeling something was wrong. After finding the scattered here arrest spoke to build classroom another hiker who was with his son and then Viansa what the oil I didn't really do anything for the case. If oh you had a bad feeling about something was wrong and we had a villa what could have been a far could've bar could have been detectable. Sometimes my gut feels a little homeroom radio or when I have to take home like wrongly the things that you say I will never understand they had spotted a scruffy ruffy man hiding in the woods. The man seemed impatient as waiting for the family to leave Clawson and blankenship walked back to where they had seen the stranger but with no luck blankenship continued the search until dusk USC lost some left the items found on the trail at a local store. Why did they pick the stuff? They're stupid. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard them. All at what one of these like a police <music> but why would you take copy was in a scholar. He'd know wrap up. I don't understand that he not know better just not anyway both men neither called the police with their suspicions on my Ara because they are so by the question the smartness of these question this morning as they should eat more smarter they should the Union County sheriff's Office and other local emergency personnel conducted the first search after mayor was reported missing then the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was asked for assistance on the evening January second two thousand eight the GBI Georgia Bureau missed Haitian is an independent statewide agency that provides <unk> to the estates criminal justice system in the area of criminal investigations forensics laboratory services and computerized criminal justice information. Wow just in case. You were one cloths Asala TV you could do that. That is the most country I have ever heard. You said you know Dave Clawson salt a T._B.. Bulletin about mayor this disappearance call the sheriff with the information about what he had seen a day earlier and on the morning of January third authorities held a news conference friends to announce a person of interest in the case a man hiking with the dog. John Taber was watching C._N._N.. Before lunchtime and realized he need a suspect. Gary Hilton had done marketing work force how siding business it's elated wall systems for the last ten years he gave authorities Hilton's details and that he drove a white Chevrolet ally Astro van with certain tag number asked her bay while Healton was at the Huddle House restaurant immoral he'll and into oh he was too good for the waffle house xactly hit a go to the huddle house and two hours after the interview taper by phone Hilton called him I from a cellphone minutes later from payphone at the restaurant restaurant to ask for money. He told Taber to leave a check for him at a dekalb county business taper own surprisingly Taber didn't report the conversation to the authorities blaming fear and it was only early about six thirty P._M.. And agent was informed when he called Taber for follow up information now that is total B._S. to me because he did contact the police say in the he knew who was sac then all of a sudden. He's lot our to scare aired. I broke out the phone number anyway. The COBB county police headed to the business is but he'll never showed up to pick up the money during the late afternoon. Newscast authorities released Hilton's name and photo to the public on January fourth along care truck got struck got stuck by stream near where Healton and Emerson were cam the driver. Mike Landrus walked toward Hilton to ask for help seeing the driver Hilton jumped from chair and headed toward him. As if trying to keep Andrews away from the Ban Andrews then called police to help get his truck unstuck learning this Hilton hurriedly loaded his van and drove the crap off meredith survived for nearly seventy two hours after being kidnapped the hill held captive in advance as he drove town town of successfully trying to withdraw money from her Wachovia Bank account using three different A._T._M.. Machines each time she gave him bad pin numbers causing failed transactions and a record of their locations. She was a smart jetstar yet. I would start getting pretty the angry light just Gimme. The FRICKIN Rawdat might be what Kemper Alah but if it was made honestly might be good remember my p._I._N.. Number I know as I would be like seriously I'm trying here trying Ryan Anyway but that was pretty smart to give locations of where they were going. Koi hit sucks Kashin's. It's like you're really do not. Even you wish that you hadn't lit those two hours because I was mature Zakar but in one Elton didn't return to the forest to bludgeoned her to death and decapitated her that went serious row fast us on a quick in didn't he just bludgeoned during decapa tighter that span strikes says he let Meredith Doll el-agha all milord unfortunately age what if what what was she ran back to the voice go okay. This is the best I can come up with. Show how go out the dog. The dull came talk dollars picking skin out. You're talking about Elo I mean sometimes you feel. The doll can sorta talk. My doubt Cam feels that on it not feel about it but I know that he talked to you never every tour for your flip today he bit through my pinkie toe now. Unfortunately agents did not get a record of Emerson's A._T._M.. Guard withdrawals until January fourth when it was way too late simply. They're not doing a whole lot are they. While the ex cop like picked up all the stuff from crimes and left it at a store did not call the police other guy knew who was but end side <unk> on call only but on January fourth of two thousand eight a witness at a Chevron gas station call to call Camp Police and stated that the guy you're looking for is cleaning out as vine. The police quickly arrived on C.. N. were able to stop the accused before he could bleach the entire and cheerier of via. I'm going so country. Crime scene analyst obtained blood evidence that was matched to Emerson's D._N._A.. In Gary Michael Hilton was subsequently arrested and charged with Emerson's murder in the story not ought but that may be so freaking funny name is bullet management. Where did that come? What Bora the movie movie I know? Why did you just bring that up because he said not? Oh Nah not is my sister's home holly this. There's a horde no not a prostitute Buddha but she heard our toll taw like a big butch hedge trimmers okay the prosecution agreed to take the death penalty off the table of Hilton would lead investigators to our body Hilton agreed and successfully led investigators to Emerson's body here but you don't actually have to do that right what you can tell him that you're doing but not a variety of Dan. If you don't do it then they take then they will do the death penalty for you. So if you don't do your part they don't do their part. No what I'm saying is the police can very easily just <unk> say the they're gonNa do bra that would just be dirty that be dirty dirty south so he'll claimed he had asked Emerson for her debit card P._M.. And that when she failed to give him the correct number he kept her for four days before killing her and cutting her head completely all our Hilton stated when it came to the woman herself quote it was Har you gotta remember. We'd spent several good days together. Unquote on my Lord on in January wait was that on January thirtieth two thousand eight Gary Hilton pleaded guilty to the murder of Emerson he was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of for parole in Thirty Years Cheryl Hodges dunlap forty six years old disappeared on December the first of two thousand seven in the APPA Cola National <unk> Cola Apple Akilah Cola Enya mispronounce that other name to that was at the beginning. What can't remember what it was some <hes> Gosh what was it was like I think ain't no so kind of <unk> wasn't it wasn't it wasn't Tad Ahuja? Chatahoochee yet wasn't appellation nine said something else was the raw it was pronounced raw apple Appalachicola Appalachicola Appalachia Coal Appalachicola H. E. Coli. That's IT N._S.. It please do not send a one-star reviews. Anna can't read okay and two tiers the bucket mother effort okay Appalachia coal she lived in crop reveal south of Tallahassee and was a nurse in Florida State Universities Help Students Center. She was a mother of two grownup kids and a devoted member of the IT Vangel local van bail goal. You're really being cut tooted Christian River of Life Church Atkin you Nala that nine the in jail in the river of laughed church okay after failing to arrive at Church to teach or Sunday school class which was very unusual and also also did not show up for work on Monday morning at the they guard Student Health Center at Florida State University Cheryl was reported missing on December the third on December. The four Cheryl's Toyota Camry was was found with a flat tire on Crawford Bill Highway part just outside the parts entrance just before the Will Kula County Line Nola that is the name Wa- coup Khuda aw on the southbound shoulder of U._S.. Highway three nineteen. She may have been attempting to flag someone down for assistance when she was abducted the Apple Much Cola national forest it is the largest U._S.. National Forest in the State of Florida six hundred thirty two thousand eight hundred ninety acres on December second third and fourth security camera footage showed a man in a rubber masks. Ask attempting to use the laps Bankcard at area. A._T._M.'s the images showed a tall then man apparently wearing gloves a hat and some sort of mask in an obvious attempt to hide his identity as he draws money from an A._T._m.. Machine money was withdrawal suggesting that the person and the surveillance footage new dunlap's pin number will no crime. Your detective staked out the A._T._M.. Location for a week but suspect did not return to the bay about one hundred eighty people turned out on Saturday December eight to search of wooded area near where her car or was bound but they did not locate Cheryl on December fifteenth hunters and the Appalachicola Park near block some cut off road notice buzzards picking over human body and. Oh closer inspection they saw that both hands and the head were missing stupid. buzzards the head in the hands were missing best pretty bad following the arrest of Hilton for Meredith Emerson's Burger. He confessed his Cheryl's killing when presented with compelling evidence of his involvement including his attempt to disposable of one of Cheryl's boots at the dumpster the time he was put into custody why the One boot trying to get rid of it. Does that make any sense the Alabama maybe US Maria can he would like Lincoln sniff it while he was doing the nasty to them of his missing a leg leg quit being so discriminatory yes to that. I don't know if she wasn't <unk>. I don't know you never know didn't say she ran away exactly so sorry no disrespect people in two thousand eleven he'll try for Cheryl. dunlap's murder was sentenced to death it but I thought the death he got death thought that he got got life. Yes he did in the other state but this is Florida who might even try in Hebrew bath. Nothing coming up got another vile October twenty first two thousand seven John Irene Bryant encountered Hil- Hilton while hiking in the bisgaard national national forest in the Appalachian Mountains of western North Carolina a vibe rancor followed that does explain a lot of faces Megan Hilton and I did say I had another one calling oh my Lord Hilton killed Irene Bryant God using czar you're using blunt force and her body was later found by authorities several yards from where the couple had parked their car. You know what but then I people could stop this. You know yes I did. They stopped it in the huddle. House man could stop because he didn't like waffle exotic. Stop this in. He must have been very discriminatory against <unk> because he didn't go to a halt. Neither COBB was a little too Orlando too expensive for a hop is kind of expensive actually ended actually awful number one. They go to huddled them. Dan Yeah Yeah Well Hilton kidnapped. Her husband took his A._D._M.. Car What Does A._T._M.. Stanford or I'm just curious if animatronic the automatic transaction <unk> manufactured. What is the acclimate auto transaction what automatic transaction she well? I did get automatic port right said animatronic in a much now I said automatic I she sedan metron. I'm pretty sure I did not say anything on Oh yes you did. I said in nanometres nation or some animatronic okay whatever just continue outweigh. I is auto teller machine really say you're wrong. It's well when I just realized outdraw whenever our looked at it again I look it up or anything but as auto teller machine ultimate myself anyway he earth him into providing his pin through the use of force. I think we know what that means on his through these force assure violence and intimidation John was then taken to Hilton's man to man Mahala National Forest and shot the head with a twenty two magnum firearm. You know you'd think they'd be able to stop her because he is seventy one years old toothless and he's Lanky and toothless any superfluous exactly so how could even chew she will the Food and not I'm gunman. That ship was on October twenty second two thousand seven at seven thirty seven P._M.. Which is very specific seven thirty seven yeah? He'll use the Bryans A._T._M.. Card in Duck town Tennessee to withdrawal three hundred dollars photos from the bank security cameras show a slender figure wearing a yellow raincoat but the person's face was obscured but consistent Hilton's heightened physical structure several strong matches for John Bryant D._N._A.. Were discovered in Hilton's van when he was arrested on January two thousand and in two thousand and Twelve Hilton pleaded guilty to kidnapping napping and the murder of the Brian for which he was still life in prison awhile own December seventh two thousand and Five Rosanna Miliani twenty six years old walked into a general store and Bryson city they beat North Carolina with an older man with grain hair. The man told her Clark he was a preacher who traveled to camp sites around the nearby Appalachian Trail according to the coral arc to the clerk mark <unk> Rosanna looked nervous the two ball a sleeping bag and walked out really that was the last time he wants our lyle. Rosana was suffering from a bipolar polar disorder. Why didn't she like try to do something? She was scared two years after her disappearance the store clerk found the authorities to say he might have recognized Gary Hilton with Rossana that day in two thousand and five all Ma God is so little frigging too late for that now justice yes just missed it. Roseanne father and a ball Miliani was convicted convinced chance that the man and the store was Hilton Shit. Call me most ever not check in. He's in on December six thousand five she rang or dad from a Cherokee Ramada Inn roughly five miles house from Bryson City Rosana who had taken the bus from south Florida to North Carolina earlier that day told him she wanted to go hiking Appalachian Trail Torso. Oh and legs of Michael Scott Lewis Twenty seven of South Daytona or discovered on December six of two thousand seven in black plastic bags on the banks of the two MOCHA river inside inside to make a state park. His head has never been found horse. Michael's firebird was found in the parking lot of his apartment complex in South Daytona this agree Nice Car yes the keys were still in the ignition but the car was a considerable distance from Lewis apartment. The length of a football field actually Lewis's unwashed laundry and to guitar for inside inside the car. The authorities had great suspicion that Hilton committed the crime but for this when he was never charged are you serious but he does have already a couple of life sentences. He's also been sentenced to death and he's business to another license so many APP fuse pretty much in there yeah but no justly for he avoids. This seems like some ass wives and not reservoir. There's a win plot just wiping throw it away you why pay your finger no went through nows all you don't even give it the courtesy of flush toilet you just throw the awesome that's nasty and then you're like crap on hand. Wash your hands and all that he ruler T._J.. Like you know one plot tissue. She always get to to hear that song. Never actually assault believe it or not all you got believe it. Was that solve yes. That's all I've got. I think that's on Venus verb. If you ever watch that awhile ago about ten in years ago her the song saw you got well that was very interesting and I thought what it was pretty. A whole is pretty good. The Saas the people not doing anything. I'm doing anything about it. You know what the COP is. What writer stole understand like this is about? I'm it's similar to the last episode where we talked about the them not do anything that welfare system of all.

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The Day We Went to Puerto Rico

Elvis Duran and the Morning Show

1:27:32 hr | 1 year ago

The Day We Went to Puerto Rico

"A ghandi. And if you're gearing up for summer, Macy's has a fashion blog called the edit to keep you on trend and fashionable. Thank you Macy's pick up some new dies in stay on turned in store or online at macys dot com slash the edit personally. I'm obsessed with the bold head to toe color. I love yellow orange. Cobalt fuchsia and the other thing that's in this season is tied. I so that excites me as well. Pick up some new dies in stay on trend in store or online at macys dot com slash the edit and checkout. Macy's the edit for more summer fashion trends. You bet again, this is. For three nights? And the gorgeous creepy Hilton don't be one big party. I wanted a book potty. Really take my shirt off was thinking about it. I'm like, man. I gotta find some type of like head to toe bathing suit. This is beautiful. Disappoint. Elvis, Duran in the morning shows party in Puerto Rico. Don't you when you fly one hundred of your best friend to Puerto Rico for morning show in only six people show up to the Bronx? Shorts. What do you want to know? You telling people not to coastal seven wino- start. Start would be woke up this morning. He said he wasn't coming down eight there's nothing like what we're experiencing right now, waking up at the beautiful conic Kariba held in San Juan Puerto Rico, the huge orange ball of a sun rising above the ocean in front of us. I'll beautiful good morning. Danielle. Hello. They're gone worn, hyper all good morning scary. Oh, hi. Who else is here today? Brody is here. There's older straight. Nee wait. Oh, this anyway. Welcome to day. I just posted my first picture from the beach here at the Caribbean Hilton. They have raked my name into the sand. I've seen that. Check me out in stuff, beautiful day. You know what we also to celebrate something else other than the fact that BB Rex is on the way to perform. Other than the fact that we are in beautiful, San Juan Puerto Rico decree Hilton, we also have a brand new song from Halsey. Have you heard this song now? Okay, let's start to show with this. This is Halsey. This is nightmare. Listen to this, and we'll be right back at the beach in Puerto Rico after palsy. There you go. Brand new Halsey nightmare in heaven. Something a little more festive now I mean I love palsy, but I mean Hello. So here we are on the beach at the beautiful. Beautiful Karibi Hilton in Puerto Rico. Look, there's there are many reasons were here. First of all, we're hearing apar-. But a close seconds. We're here to show support to the creepy Hilton in Puerto Rico, look, after everything everything they've been through everything they continued to go through this hotel is the perfect example of what Puerto Rico is all about. Because they renovated. They're on the right track. And the people who work at the hotel, including Pablo Pablo who runs the place. What a beautiful beautiful bunch of people, don't you think I'll tell it'll present is Gandhi awake or asleep. You got the sunglasses on, I can't tell you I either closed or I'll tell you, why am I around the room? What you've put me in the worst seat of all time around the around the beach you go first in the worst seat of all time Brody on one side and froggy on the other side. And they're both like my nemeses, and I'm just getting attacked all morning. I hate the keep you on your toes. No, no, actually no stay there, punishment for something awful. You. Okay. Remind me we have to talk to Gandhi about the guy. She brought Puerto Rico, Joey not, you'll need to be hit now. She brought sand the beach. She's not playing in the sand. Is that you around the room? Yeah, you're mad about your your seat Danial. What's up with? We've had a bunch of listeners last night. One of the guys that I met had never heard the show before his wife's the fan scary. And I were talking to his wife is a big fan but not him. So we were telling him about everything. Like what great tea did when he pooped on the floor like we were reminiscent, and the, the crazy story, though. We came up with we're hysterical. I can't believe how many cool things we've done on this show. And this guy is now a fan because we were so nice to him. He he thought scary with my husband not gonna happen. So we've been together for like twenty three years. So a few weird things have happened, but a few magical things like waking up at the beach. It's be Hilton in Puerto Rico. I mean, this is our office for the day or we're going to try to take as many pictures as became so you can see what we're experiencing as, as you're stuck in traffic and wishing you could just get outta traveling froggy. What about you? What's on your mind today? Mine to suggest today were walking Danielle, and I had to do a tour of one of the rooms with Jake. And so we were walking out one listener sauce. I saw that listener later. He's like, oh, I saw you and your wife earlier, leaving the room. I'm like minute. My wife and I felt bad. I'm like, I don't mean that in a bad way. But no, that's not my wife. That's it's not my wife. Please do not say that we're doing it. We're not enough to all of you this weekend. One day, not soon. Okay. Well, okay. You're not married. Okay. Done. So rather than go into the phone for the first caller of the day, we have the first caller of the day on the beach. Oh, rounded who do you have out there? All right. Here we go. Our very first caller of the day. Is jealous and her dad one high dead Juan. They had been here an hour and a half before we kicked off the show just to see how things operate. How we plug in and be whatever? So here's Tolleson. Why here so early? What's your deal? Wanted to have the front seats. Oh. Sure, I had the right. See right here, we're back in New York BTS was performing in central park on what two days ago yesterday, I dunno people were there for eight days camping out. So you're we're like your BTS was about to do the same. So we're from, from New York City. Welcome. You know, we have people here from all over the country, San Francisco Mississippi Atlanta. Connecticut, New Jersey New York City, we've people listening all around the world is the strangest thing, and I can't believe people listen to this crap. You're the first caller of the day. So we have to give you an Elvis, Duran morning show shared okay, we're gonna ruin. Ruin it. My spilling opinion Carolina right on. Listen, you guys. It's so nice to have you here. Thank you so much. Look, you can follow along are Puerto Rican adventures Instagram at Elvis Duran show in everyone who's who's here, you have to hash tag, Elvis in Puerto Rican, people get mad at me because I don't say Puerto Rico. I've always said where they'll Rico. I mean, is it is it bad for a white boy to say it like that? Now. I shaped Porto Rico Puerto Rico over all my friends in the Bronx. They Puerto Rico Puerto Rico. Let's get into the horoscopes I hate these things. I hate horse. I don't believe in the stars. All right. Producers hand speak up speak, proud. I wanted to him with froggy because it's a special occasion, especially case. Here we go. I. Just do something. As your birthday. You're celebrating it with Derek huff who is thirty four Capricorn. It's time to focus on self care spirit. Our to enjoy massage or beauty treatment, your body will. Thank you for your day. It's a nine that's your head is in the clouds focused on becoming more organized in order to chase new opportunities days attend Pisces. You are overwhelmed with drama with any relationships find a healthy balance between self care and the care about your day. It's a nine areas, don't let your emotions get the best of you. Once you can find peace other goals and passions will fall into place. Your days. Seven tourists, be receptive to opinions in ideas. Great things happen, when you focus on listening instead of being heard your day, it's a nine Gemini, you may have the urge to buy groceries and cook a wonderful meal for others. Follow this instinct, it could lift someone spirits your days attend. Cancer difficult tensions are happening in your friendship group stay, calm, things aren't really his dad. Is they see spread positivity and your day to make Leo use your sensitivity? To your advantage. It may give you insight into things that others don't understand your days attend Virgo. All good things must come to an end. Don't be afraid to dive into something new and exciting endeavors. When they come into the picture your day, it's a Lieber libra you feel positive, and inspired us. This energy to complete the creative project or embark on a new adventure. Your days, seven Marcello Scorpio's, we go with the flow and be more sensitive to other people around us, and listen to others will help you keep an open mind could lead you down the path his success, your days, a Senate Sagittarius. Don't let negativity damp in your day. Hang out with your friends, and celebrate happiness. Your day is nine and those are your Porto Rico Friday morning, Laura's. All I heard was Leo is at Ted. They hate the stars but they love you today. Horoscopes it'd be all you care about is your sign with me, and Mike Virgo wa wa wa wa. I don't give a flying credible. Virgo pinch Burgos anyway. Thank you guys. All right. Into the three things you need to know from our Puerto Rico beach front newsroom, Gandhi, what's going on? All right. Officials in at least two states are calling for boycotts over Alabama's new abortion law. Yes, it was signed into law, and it expands almost all abortion, including rape incest, to hashtag boycott Alabama gaining lots of traction online people saying stop buying products made there, including broiler chickens. I didn't know that was a big Ella Bama product from. No on no more broiler chickens life. We actually have some listeners from Alabama here today to talk to them back to you. All right. Millions of Americans are facing some really bad weather this weekend, large hail damaging winds tornadoes. This is coming, obviously, from the national weather service, and they say, as many as fifty million people could be in the path of potentially dangerous storms. And finally, if you're looking for a new job, and you have any type of social media skills, Queen, Elizabeth wants you she wants to social media guru. I know to bring her into. Thousand nineteen. Oh, good is perfect for growing. Grow voice doing posts. Exactly the Royal household is looking for advertising. They're calling the digital communications officer, you'll make thirty eight thousand dollars a year, and you can apply online, who's going to be the one who gets Queen Elizabeth to do a boomerang. Thank you. Are you guys ready for your Friday? Live from the EBay Hilton his head one Puerto Rico. Friday. We'll be back after this. Rain in the morning cues party in Puerto Rico. Historian in the morning show. If you didn't love summer enough, Tate's bake shops, giving you two more reasons to love summer, new s'mores and coconut, Blondie limited edition, summer, cookies, tuna flavors amazing look for the red s'mores and blue coconut, Blondie bags available at whole foods. Now. Friday morning. Rico at Hilton Elvis Duran in the morning shows parring Rico. While the ocean. The sunrise. If you follow me at Elvis Duran, look at my store, you can see what it looks like through the palm trees right here at the icon ick. Caridi. Hilton out to the ocean's beautiful can we do this everyday? Mommy. I don't know about you, but I had a great night last night. What I recall. I've been doing this for years. I can wake up and do a show this a matter, except in Des Moines. So I got to the room in Alexander's Frenchman to some, some gay stripper bar. I'm going to stay in the room so a little hungry. So the next thing I noticed knocked the door Mr. derive, is what I had ordered three orders of chicken wings. A big old mount of tone is something else. I was eating like a king last night in my room and I can tell you having a good time when I get the hate texts. Hello, we're are you have fried food, the fried food is here. He just wanted to bring you bring that to his. Anyway. So many people here with us as you. Listen wherever you are driving to work drive into school, or just hanging out at your house getting off your shift and getting home. Whatever we're on the beach, beautiful Puerto Rico herald in Chris from San Francisco or here. Howard. It's Howard in Chris right? Who wrote herald? Jewish guy. That was scary guy was rude. Hello Howard in Chris. Good morning of you guys. You never heard us on a radio. You just heard us on iheartradio, right? Well, welcome to Puerto Rico. Have you ever been to Puerto Rico? It's nice right? I mean you live you live in San Francisco Melo sitting there on a week until you're very mellow right now. Well, welcome. We're so glad to see you. I had fun hanging out with you last night. I remember seeing you. Kim, and actually from Mississippi who listen to Sirius XM, hi Kim. And Ashley, I've a friend of New York, her name was Kim. Ashley. Hi, guys. How are you? Great. How are you doing? Okay. Thank you for partying with us last night. I said, nothing embarrassing did okay last night if anyone said it's something embarrassing. It was probably me. I talked to them. Sylvia from New Jersey. She's won a lot of stuff from listening to us on z, one hundred New York. Hi, sylvia. Where are you Sylvia sleeping? She's asleep. This is a great list here. Welcome to you all. I'm sorry. What? Sonja wrote everyone's name. It was really loud last night. Oh. I'm so sorry. Sonia, how are you? You brought your dad was you kidding. Everyone tells that to Alex my dad's here screw you. I'm not dead. Welcome to Puerto Rico. Have you ever been here before? First time tell you why were here, one of the many reasons of the Karibi Hilton is they just renovated actually there's still putting some finishing finishing touches on this beautiful resort this hotel as we know when the hurricane rolled through Puerto Rico devastated. Everyone here in every hotel every business was devastated, and they are still slowly getting back to work. You're getting it rolling again, even though it has fallen off of our headlines of backup in the continental United States. It's still a thing. So we're doing everything we can to show our love Puerto Rico. Make sure people know the creepy Hilton is alive in truly croissant applies what you can clap if you want. The creepy Hilton personifies it really tells the story about what Puerto Rico, all about Daniel, totally my mom, actually came here. We she was dating my dad, and she's so jealous that she's not here because she said, oh, my gosh. She goes that brings back so many amazing memories, and I was talking to some of the people that work here and is one guy who's actually been here, so many years he was probably here. When my parents came when they were aiding broke up a fight. I've been here since I think nineteen forty nine in another beautiful thing about this hotel. They are so, so into preserving the history, there's an entire wall, dedicated to the old pictures, the people used to come here to the crib, and it's a beautiful beautiful place Gandhi, what do you thinking? I think I'm not coming back with you guys. I'm just mistake here. What's scary? I was reading the wall last night. I realized, oh my God. This is the birthplace of the pinochle. To have an original pinochle Lada say it was the best pinochle had in my life. If you haven't here taste a little different with crushed ice, because that didn't have. Blenders they said and one of the bartenders worked with the original guy who did the pinochle Lada who's on the wall. I worked with that guy history. They didn't have ice makers in the way that crushed the ISIS with their feet. I'm loving being outside. I don't feel any bugs or anything. There is one big huge bug flying around. Did you see that? Producer Jake's drone. Stranger. All right. Let's get into your field goods, by the way, producer Sam. Did you bring your your to go blanket from gravity has to travel one now? So I can become all the time. I know it seems weird to be on a sunny, sandy beach blanket comforting. It's like a big shell. If you go to gravity blankets dot com, use the code Elvis, get twenty percents off. They also have the cooling blanket. It's weird. It's like a chilled blanket. I don't understand the science. You're a chill blanket because feel good. So let's talk about a group of people doing something amazing for local Puerto Rican residents. It has been over eighteen months since hurricane devastation, and there are still a lot of homes without electricity. Well, last year, a small group of churchgoers from Virginia spends a week here in Puerto Rico and got to witness it firsthand. So they set out on this huge mission, which is finally happening, as we speak right now there are sixty nine churches in Virginia working together to raise money for solar powered generators that are going to power fifty homes that are still in trouble right now. So they've raised ten thousand dollars and are currently working with the manufacturer to get the best quality solar panels out here. It's so cool theory is going to is, and all the funds and materials should be ready by the end of August. I know such a long time. This has been coming in their absolutely incredible. So if you are part of those churches, thank you so much. And if you have someone that is featured. I would love to feature them. Email me, Sam Elvis, Duran dot com. Subject minefield goods. Thank you, Sam so BB Rex coming over in a few minutes, and she's going to perform for us. I just sent her. Good morning text. I hope it should be awake by now. I hope so. Always inhere makeup that girl anyway, we've got a beautiful day on the way live from the iconic Kariba Hilton in San Juan Puerto Rico. We have more coming up after this. In the morning party. Puerto Rico will be on. Kobe kilted. Elvis. So when it comes to audible, I look, right over to Daniel. I'm obsessed with it. You are obsessed. I'm listening to right now. The favorite sister is what I'm on right now by Jessica knoll is very good. It's a long one but it's a good one go back to before audible when you're reading books, how often would you read a book? We take me months because I didn't have enough time. This is I can do it all the time while I'm doing laundry while I'm in the car while not my kid's soccer game. I'm watching the game but listen to a book. It's good. Audible members can easily exchange any audiobook. They don't love at any time. You can also listen to stuff like the New York Times Wall Street Journal. The Washington Post all delivered audio to the app, every day this audible app is so easy to use. You can listen to it everywhere on any device at the gym or with Daniel at a soccer game binge. Listen, just like Danielle to your favorite audiobook series, writers narrators, whatever it start a thirty day trial. Choose one audiobook, and get to audible originals absolutely free. It's so cool. Download the audible app today. From the Kobe Hilton. The morning shows party Puerto Rico. Six forty five in the morning here on the beach at the beautiful three bay Hilton in Puerto Rico. The sun is already so hot. Daddy's gonna have some. Yeah. Already spray. I already sprayed sunscreen twice change places here already Brown over here. Not cooking you guys. On BB Rex performing later this morning. A great tea is out on assignment. He is something special coming up. Some great things about being in paradise in Puerto Rico. You have these big exotic birds flying over some pterodactyl think flew over a second. Giant bird of prey of some sort. Massive. Seriously? That's the Puerto Rican tufted. Careful at my grab Accu away. Anyway. You know what does the beautiful things about Puerto Rico? This is the birthplace here. The creepy Hilton the birthplace of the PINA, colada nineteen fifty four. I mean, or they say Pena's Collado that much should we be having a PINA colada right now? Other setting it up under go. Let's go talk to line twenty one Justin calling from Rochester, New York. Oh, just and you should be here. Honey? No doubt. Have you been to Puerto Rico before? I have not been out there. You can just hop on a plane jet blue flies. Can I tell you Justin, sometimes when people fly they become so stupid? Does anyone agree with me? Justin, I'm one of these people when I go to the airport by level Wade path. People on the plane were just stupid. I mean they would get up as we were taking off the plane was just leaving the runway. They're getting up to go to the bathroom like sit down. You're going to point people, everybody everybody's being told to sit down. And so the, the lady says you like everybody else you have to stay seated. Digging in another thing. Justin fun thing is if you land in Puerto Rico, or anywhere, maybe up in the Caribbean. Whatever people always applaud as you as you. It's a cultural thing. What does I think? That is. Justin, when's the last time you took a vacation period. I mean do you ever get away? Actually guys. Fun. Miami is asked us not to come back. Well, look, I wish you were here. It is beautiful. Here's the thing decree Hilton. They just reopened yesterday after a huge renovation, of course, the entire the entire Puerto Rico is under renovation. But it's so beautiful. I can't wait to get into into old San Juan tonight. I'm sneak away, but Justin, do you have someone you you to travel with. Or do you travel alone? My wife. We were able to be on the show last year. Go on airplanes in that game. Well, look, there are few people here, just are traveling alone. I'm jealous, I would love to travel alone. How fun is that anywhere? I'm traveling alone. I don't count. You people. Justin, I'm glad you're awake. I'm sorry that we're, we're kinda rubbing it in everyone's like drive into the grind here in paradise, but we appreciate your listening in. Don't forget. Put Karibi Hilton on your list of places you need to visit immediately. Okay. I definitely will. I definitely will. We do. Absolutely pretty much. All right, Justin. Thank you so much. Have a great day have a great weekend. We're about to get into the Daniel report. What you have coming up. Dan, you Batman was trending and I'm going to tell you. All right. So back to the stupid people on the plane. So when we got off the plane, the flight attendants that worked for jet blue. They look like they were in a bad mood. I'm like, why are they? So snippy and I realized because to deal with idiots like us. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, people were just doing stupid things the almost kicks off the plane, 'cause they were drinking too much. And they were loud, said, stop it. That's, that's my friends. What's scary our flight as soon as the plane landed no more than two seconds later still going, six hundred miles an hour that guy behind me stands up and tries to open up the overhead contain. That's the most thing. Thing. I don't understand is there's etiquette to get off of an airplane, right? You're supposed to let the people in front of you get off, get their luggage down than you're supposed to people come from all over the place and try to run up with the hell you go and sit your aspect down because you're not going in front of me. That's why our job is we show up. We talk into a microphone about about ho- stupid. Robbed of his seat yesterday. It was hilarious. Seat brody? I was supposed to sit for. You gotta get closer to the mic. I was supposed to sit in fourteen f Gandhi was in fifteen f sixteen f credit co workers some guy was in my seat. Excuse me, your seat. Oh, yeah. My friends are sitting here. I thought it'd be more convenient with no, no. It's not for me. I have an empty seat for you. The back of the plane, that's awfully presumptuous to give up my seat, which Brody said to the guy nicely. But I'm like, you know, you could ask me where did you end up his girlfriend turns around gives me the puppy dog is? So I went in the back and I sat with the screaming kid, I want a window to window. Window the window. That's what I had to deal with. But did you didn't tell them that you almost miss the flight? And that's why the guy probably thought you weren't. Point, twelve minutes before have we seen great t yet. Here's a wonderful, wait till you see what he's going to do. It's going to it's going to change your life. Really? Yes. That's a pterodactyl in background. That sound. The playing the plane. Takes drone again. Oh my gosh. Anyway, let's get into the Danielle report live from the beach at the Hilton, it is beautiful, by the way, just to set the scene. We are sitting here in our shorts. The sunshine is blinding us. It's gorgeous. And we have some people who are up late night, partying with this. I can't believe you guys got up this early to come in here. You got to your mind. Everyone said, I'm coming up tomorrow. I said, no, no sleep nuts. Thank you guys for being such rebels a rebels rebels reveling rebels Daniel. All right. So Batman was trending last night. Why? Because Robert Pattinson is the new. Yes. Hey, remember how drunk? Smell like cigarettes and alcohol beautiful. Anyway. He was a great vampire. So I think he'll be a great Batman. They, they're looking at a much younger Batman for this movie there, re reinventing. Thanks, obviously Gandhi, not excite me about it. I just don't like it. He he just doesn't strike me as back. Who should be Batman? Then I don't know. Did don't speak. Do you even go see Batman movies? Liam Hemsworth is four Chris Hemsworth. Are you having British Batman? I mean when he drives mobile is the only like the other side. He might be on the other side of the road. Has a new album out. It's called father of Assad. But he's got so many collaborations on this nifty hustle Travis. Scott post Malone, John legend meek mill and it goes on, and on Bieber have is a lot of people. Straight almost tripped and fell drunk Kim in Konya have nannies for their kids, but the rumor is that they're very hands on. Fed apparently at night, they take the nighttime shift because they want to be up feeding the kids, you know, bonding with the kids. Pterodactyl. Chris rock came up with a new story line for the soul movie franchise. And, you know, I love that we've franchise he said he's been a fan since it came out. He's looking forward to helping them out with more movies, and he wants to make it extra creepy that's going to be exciting. Did you know that Lamar Odom has a book on the way? No. So he admits that he slept with more than two thousand women. Okay. He regrets cheating on his ex wife khloe Kardashian, but Elvis question. So Lamar Odom has a book coming out, and he says he slept with more than two thousand women. So, I think in order to sell your book one woman. One woman. She was in high school menus left with your new. Why are we talking about this? Lamar odom. Lamar own guys you slept with Daniel. Many. Not many. Very. Are you slut shaming? There's a new poll out that says that ten point seven million people will skip work this coming Monday. Do you know why Elvis because Sunday night is the season finale or the, the series finale of game of thrones? Is that an option? Yeah. There's also a petition going around to reduce season eight which is well, Nathan technically seven and a half season. Eight because a lot of people, maybe they're not so thrilled with the way. It's going. I'm hating it. Yeah. So. Well, your movies in theaters. John with three is out in theaters this weekend. It is the sixties finale of the blacklist Meghan, Harry. Plus one over on CBS. Paul Rudd is hosting your season finale SNL DJ Khallid with his new new album father of you're going to hit that. And Sunday night. It's all about the series finale of game of thrones. Thank you. By the way, even though we are gearing up for some freshly blended, PINA coladas right in front of us is isn't a nice to have someone making a cocktail in. It's not Johnny. Does this guy know jokes? I don't know. Okay. By the way, not only are we loving pinochle is on the way, the birthplace of the pinnacle outta the beautiful Caridi Hilton. But also today is national Pino greasy. O'day. I know you drunks. Our friends at Cavite are here. They're are part of our weekend here at the creepy Hilton as you know, I'm reading this, by the way cabinet penal. Grecia was light Crispin refreshing and America's number one to tell you why. So raise a glass, and celebrate national penal greasy o'day by picking up Kevin peanut greasy at any of your local cabinet retailers. And don't forget, whatever you post today has tag national penal greasy. Oh day. Whatever you this could get dangerous. Oh, yes. Oh, great tea is ready to, to. Well, he's about to do something really cool. We're gonna take a break. And when we come back, one of us in this, in this family is going to be really pissed off at Greg team. Here right here live on the radio. Probably be scary. Please whatever you do go online look creepy Hilton and book your vacation. Now, this place is fabulous. You can follow along right now Instagram at Elvis, Duran show a web girl Kathleen, taking pictures, we said, if you're going to come, you gotta take pictures. We will have more live from the beach right after this. Next from Elvis Doreen in the morning shows party in Puerto Rico Hilton in San Juan we are live from the beach. Story in the morning show itself Iran's saving money with groupon is easy everything you need to save. Big is right there on your groupon app. Save big on family, bowling night or a relaxing massage right in your own neighborhood. Save up to one hundred dollars a week on what you do every day. Download the groupon app and save groupon. From the Hilton in San Juan. Party to rain in the morning shows party in Puerto Rico. Turning on. We are on the being the view Kariba Hilton San Juan Puerto Rico, strong either is my Ghandi. Yeah. Scary here. Greg t about to do special special something for his by the way, there's nothing better than just packing. A little bag in hopping on board the plane flying anywhere you want to the weekend and not checking the bag and we have these arguments all the time. Check your bag. Check your bed, Ghandi, so scary. Don't check your bag. I taught you how to pack right? Yes, you do. The little roll. You do a role, you've tightly wind all your clothes, and yes, I learned that from you, you tightly wind and then you use like the inside of your shoes can hold stuff. Yeah. Everywhere there's a cavity of room in your bag, that's a room for something else. Don't check your bags. Anyway, scary. Tell me everything you brought. Stuff. Did you put in that little tiny bag go? Okay. So I brought what clothes for the occasion. Pants one pair of jeans, I'd want three pairs of shorts to three bathing suits and four really nice button, down, shirts three for three nights, and maybe one extra and what I'm wearing right now, which is ranks shoes. Did you bring your sandals? Clearly you didn't bring a toenail. Converse. Sneakers, put a brand new pair of a velvet sneaker velvet sneakers. Listen, I must applaud you scary for putting all of that in one bag. So we thought we'd have some fun, great t went to your room. He is wearing all of your clothing. T where is he? Well, elvis. You know, I always liked to swim around naked. But I thought it was so much fun. Wait, wait. What tell me everything you're wearing. I've got those velvet shoes on. Jeans. Shorts he's got two pairs of underwear on that. He can't see where they're. Scary. You wearing underwear. Seven. Shoes. Oh my God. He's so what he's gonna do layered. He's going to dive into the pool. I just want to leave you with this. What's happening? He's wearing every system clothing. Gary brought and he's in the pool. Scary head one change of clothes left, that was dry and he's just got it. I have to. Very scary trying to carry out of the pool. It's impossible. You're in the water. Assured his. Never seen scary. Ron before that was worth it just for. He's a funniest runner. Taking off all his clothes. Now, Greg, Greg do not strip in front of our guests. Honey? We all know your your pancake. We don't have to hold a wardrobe now. All right. All right. So it's just one of the fun things we do at the beach. Thank you. Microphone off moving on. We just forget move. We're, we're, we're rapid online. Twenty two fanny is calling in welcome to the weekend. Fanny, how are you? And right. And young so excited. I'm a little dug into you guys so cool. Thank you. So you live in Palm Springs, beautiful Palm Springs. But you're from Puerto Rico originally, where we are right now. That you guys my island today. Came home to Puerto Rico. Like about five years ago. So you have a lot of family and friends who are here. And they, they went through everything that the hurricane brought them and beyond, right? Yes. Yes, I do. Well, let me tell you one of the reasons we love being here at the Karibi Hilton, even though this hotels been here since nineteen forty nine they just renovated this beautiful beautiful property. It is stunning. And it truly is I've said before it really is the example of what all of Puerto Rico's about is bringing it back to its stunning stunning self. And we are so proud. We couldn't be more honored to be in Puerto Rico, but on top of that the Caridi Hilton, please promise me, your, your family and friends who are here have him, come here for Sunday brunch or whatever. And you need to come visit and stay here. You promise you'll do that. Fannie, please, I've, I will I'm vacations and. That I'm taking I go to my island. We can spend my money over there. And with everything else doesn't need my island. I'm going to spend other people's money here too. We also took scares money. Doing joy enjoy the island and travel around and BC different food is the best voting the world right now, can if your grandmother was cooking Puerto Rican lunch for you. What would you request some stone s some I will request phone go? We. A lot of seafood on that. Oh my God. You guys. Phone go, like a volcano of love, isn't it? I love it. If you don't know when the phone is go to Google and thank you for listening fanny, I hope you have a beautiful weekend. You guys every single morning even helping my English that he's not even that good. This is not a good example of England. But it's the best I can do. She gets my accent. Thank you run. Thank you. Thank you live from the beach at the Hilton one Puerto Rico. We get into the three things you need to know from Gandhi only connection to reality. I don't know if I want to hear it actually sat if it's me what's going on today? Boycott's over Alabama new abortion law that outlaw abortion in most cases including rape, and incest, the hashtag boycott Alabama now trending. All right. We all love Taco Bell, right? Yeah. Okay. Well, Taco Bell is getting into the hotel industry as Oko hotel hotel. Yes, they are opening a place in Palm Springs where you can get all kinds of stuff aside from the food. You can get Taco Bell themed apparel. You can get your nails done higher. Silence all kinds of stuff all in the name of Taco Bell superfan gaining taco. When my nail. Could I would stay I would stay. Chuckle. Tell I would do. Going to start opening up reservations. You'd like Elvis. Explain to everyone that mean I just don't think you want to stay there. Yes. I do. People are disgusting. All right. And on a sad note. I think we're all going to be affected by this one. We all remember, grumpy cat. Right. Yeah. Grumpy cat has passed away. Seven years old. I'm going to Brody. He was only seven years old. He got infection and pass away on Tuesday, tartar sauce, RIP. We all miss, you know, we're stated those three things shows up bad news. Hey, so we have a phone tap coming up through scary with what his remaining clothing. This is a tank top look great at a take. Eleven. Maybe should go. Anyway. Push-up Brom question. What kind of phone tapped we have coming up live from the beach? This is one from Danielle and vacation and the hotel, where someone punched a wall, a hole through the wall. Oh perfect. All right. We have your phone to have live from the Korea, bay Hilton. Coming up right after this. The morning party Puerto Rico coming to Puerto Rico with us. The morning show. Hey, it's Gandhi. And if you're gearing up for summer, Macy's has a fashion blog called the edit to keep you on trend and fashionable thank you. Macy's pick-up some new duds stay on in store or online at macys dot com slash the edit personally. 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There is a hole in the wall. There's no question about. No, no, no, no, no, no. Anybody's walls because we have our own I understand. But did you have a fight with wife or some of course, north, my wife and I on four tomes? So I guess women's prior to osmose, I've done that should have those check out. No, sir. There's no reason for anyone in the Welby north kind of dommage things. I am going to hold it. Somebody's warm. Maybe you had a fight or maybe expert, that you'll never have five never do fight, even in the York, we never fly. Come on, sir. No, no, no. We don't fight. We don't we don't dislike people properties. I use sure that you're pretty sure Z now. You said you're pretty sure, no up. Pretty sure miss. Okay. We don't a houses are wall. Everybody their wife. Come on. This is the guy that doesn't fight. There's no reason to fight my wife you on vacation. There's no reason for us to fight. I never fight with my wife. Never get angry. I'm telling you the last time we do not fight. I did not on. Cigarette burns in the rub. Excuse me. I'm asking your cigarette. Birth. Did you miss Sigmund bands? Yes. What the heck I don't smoke does your wife smoke smoke. Could you could be hiding it from you? No reason. There was a picture in the room that had the damage too. Honestly, you're making it sound like you're like the perfect family. Gimme a break. People like me forty Monday morning, Tuesday, one upset me because we don't do those things. So do not accurate again, anywhere. What from you accuser, dodging, something on bonding rugs where we don't even smoke. Can you hold one second, please? Can you believe this guy? Excuse me extremists. He's totally lying to us. Your hello. Yeah. His wife gave me permission. So I'm just gonna. Nuts. Because you've gotta have twenty he's smarter than he is. Hello. I have on tape your wife saying that you smoke before you go into the bathtub, so you have no folk. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We, we didn't. Okay. I had someone call your wife. She's on hold. Hello. Did your husband get angry and punch a hole in the wall? I didn't see no Hawaii wanting to get angry. Does he get angry guys? We miss your screaming. Position to be guilty of something we didn't do wasn't whether to mislead did you not see you? Lira go lineup. Everytime drink a beer. He smoked drink a beer in the room. Mis-. Mis- mis-. Yes. You had a beer in the fridge. She just said it come on, now, just admit me miss. Excuse me, kidding me. Just say I burnt the whole in the rug. Brainwash idiots. Listen to me. Just just just pay for it. And that's it. Means. Just call me up and talking, we have something to tell you this is Daniel minero from Elvis, Duran in the morning show. When you just got phone tapped. Phone every morning. I believe that it's a joke. What would you like to say to the wife, you never fight with? Rumor nick. Was awesome. Recorded with permission granted by all participants Durant. Phone tap. Oh, Danielle, you did it again. Thank you knocked it out of the park. I was I was in the bathroom. I missed the phone that was five. So if you're just turning us on. We are live on the beach at the beautiful career bay Hilton in San Juan Puerto Rico, showing support Puerto Rico. We love you and over friends, somebody people we met last night at the welcome party who've never been to Puerto Rico, people whose families are from Puerto Rico have never they've never been to Puerto Rico Hulo. It's paradise and I gotta tell you the Caribbean Hilton is truly the example that the entire entire area here is following, because they are bright, shiny, new and back back to work. And we're going to talk to. Tortoise, who's the general manager about how they are doing and where they're going few minutes, so far, so good. Spare. No. So one of the many things we love about Puerto Rico, and the Karibi Hilton this is where the PINA colada was invented who doesn't love, opinion, Collado EBay Hilton. So our friend frame is over there at the peanut stand, great, t yes, sir, a little less talking a little more PINA colada iris thinking the same thing so amount here with their head bartender here higher. How are you, sir? And he makes the best pinochle Lada. That's what I heard right now. Do you know what year, the peanut Collado was invented? We know I know that nothing fifty four and you were were you here, but you're on your way. Sixty five bond Cheeto, what here, but Wayne start here sixty five. Right. I know cheat them, and he was. I work with him when she. The. My backer. He invented the the pinochle outta here at the Caribbean. Yet. I bet he was a superstar superstar. We loved him anyway. He's no longer here, but his drink remains I would love for you to make me pinochle. Can you make us all opinion? Oh. There's nothing like getting a buzz in the morning, they received them cheat. The police do. All right. He's going to blend that up. So, you know, what's in a peanut Collado, right? There's what's in the pinochle? Lonzo cook Likud aim cream by us. Apple juice fun. Hot cheat. The the. When when she looked in bent that. Hey put at a hot fun have also hits. Battle. There's a little. Put six hours of how fun. Oh my gosh. So if you're if you're intolerant, this is not. He made it three pots or Pocono Cudi. Saudi do partial quitting and three of buying up. Oh my gosh. Healthy, lots of a health, Drake. Well anyways, thank you so much. Let's get that Roland. We gotta talk to the gentlemen. Thank you so much for your warm welcome here. This is such a beautiful place in as I was telling telling earlier behind his back, everyone who works here at the Caridi. Hilton loves working for him. You don't have any idea how these means to all of so. The rico. Where three to have all of you here. A means a whole were for us. Oh, thank you. So we could have gone to a billion different places. But we've had to come to the Caribbean. Hilton for Drako. Okay. Let's go back to the hurricane the hurricane devastated Puerto Rico, and everything around here. So I mean, if you're running a hotel or any business, and Puerto Rico in a hurricane blows through inches, devastates the world, that's got to be permit language a pain in the ass. So let's call it an opportunity. Okay. Iheartradio. So on a personal note. I mean, the, the hurricane for you personally meant what continues to mean what today, but throughout my career ahead being exposed to nine against in locations. Couple of thing shooting put her ego. LV to be on it, but I started my career in these hotel, and for some reason, my destiny had me fight these property. So for me decamping really the team members of work here that are part of my family, and I'm fully committed to all things and bring it back these. Is throwing it never before in on surrounded by acing thing of talented. Was that? Has been through these are these way, obviously wasn't going on. Everything is here earmuffs, and we started doing for the hurricane and you'll sister that we receive a cold from the gorham in the they needed to support many US citizen coming from the Caribbean. We jumped being an started helping we got probably like sees home with them if Dane actually one of the. These Tony Tony Mullane. He was actually over in Saint Thomas, and they rushed him over here. Go rest in your hotel. So the entire team focusing, obviously we ought to heal. Don't we host the and core to help people? So we only focusing to help whoever we cleaned up period. Another great example, by the way, a hotel is not just a place where you stay in the community. This is a hotel. That is a part of the community. And at one of the good things that came out of such a devastating storm was proof that you are here for the neighbors, and you, you, you're shining, like a beacon in look how beautiful the hotels turned out to be you guys. We're working around the clock until the moment we arrived to make this place beautiful. We thank you. We appreciate it so much. Thank you. So, so that'd be, you know, we managed to two hundred you know, often we realize mighty, what's coming. So, so we had to put buddy gain. So he wasn't like feasting. Intensive and but these onto a bass, so look forward put the because back in business. I seen the heathen out of all these. We are going to have a most better, this teenage most better hooked out. And we are hoping for Beason so yesterday was was before when we opened hook day they knew coming. He was so special for us. I tell you one of the Hoppy. Oh. I didn't know about your history here. And that's that's just amazing ever tyranny ride. Dating the my heart learned something. We're going to I'm going to destroy this morning show, so we can rebuild them be stronger than ever. Froggy. I was actually saying before that I feel like this is the most relaxed vacation, we've had together going away someplace, you know, taking the listeners, just feels relaxed, and comfortable and nice, and it's just it's due to all you guys. And how you make everybody here feel like family, which is great. Back in the states of people are texting in as they drive to work. I mean all across the world. People are texting us some of the texts. Publishes accent is so sexy. I wish you guys would shut up. We want to listen to him talk all day. So now you're a sex symbol around the world. I know that you guys have a Morton's steakhouse opening up here in the winter. Can't wait because we need more meat in our diets. Let's talk about your work here in the community with a phone that they who's, so this organization does what for the media old San Juan in Puerto Rico. What does from they do? It is part of our heal them to, to either in the industry, and in our community, and we engaged many shot at the organization wines as his which we partnered. And we do say DVD's throughout the year they station, technically take off many homeless in the right day feed them, and they have a program to try to develop Dan and bring them back to the to the community. So we provide food we provide close, and we had in cost communication within getting feedback to see how we. Well, we would like to make a contribution behalf of the morning show for ten thousand dollars. Everything is going on here continues to go, and I get so mad. When people back up in the states forget, what Puerto Rico is still going through today. That was a headline in vanished off the papers in still a lot of work to be done here. So with you public, your incredible family here at creepy Hilton. And of course, everyone over it from today's who's, we want to give contribution and we thank you for your. I, I would love to celebrate with. Pina colada. So remember when you make your vacation plans coming to creepy Hilton. It's more than just going to a beautiful resort hotel on the ocean. It's a family of people with a story, and that makes it all the more special, we love you guys. Thank you. I hear a blender. Beautiful beautiful. The Daniel report now we go through something from something. So wholesome wonderful to the sleazy. Pleasing stomach. Please look at Ghandi. We're still wondering why you're not you're not a little closer to that. Hot guy. You brought people can be just friends hurls. I know no one wants to believe it. But it's true all the women and some of us guys were all over him last night. I'll make a move. He has the biggest picket line. I wanna bring this up. He's like, he's like, have you felt my clavicle? Hits. Shoulder. The clavicle shoulder. Hollered collarbone. It's massive. I never noticed. With his bones. Where is he still Silla sleep probably sharing a bed? We got separate bags. You wore him out. He can't even get. Pew pew. This report. All right. So let's talk about last night, the series finale of the big bang theory. What happened? I'm not gonna tell you. You're gonna yell at me. Also big doings on Grey's anatomy last night. I'm not allowed to tell you that either. Here's a bunch of stories. I can't tell you. So you know what a second home and is actually Beverly Hills, but it's like right down the block or couple blocks away from her old home. There are rumors going around that. Maybe her ex husband is going to move into that house. So they're a little closer, the kids together. So I'll keep you posted on that very important to homes Beverly Hills. Nine hundred zero is already having some drama, the FOX reboot has replaced show runners because there was a huge exodus. Several members of the show with a shows revival creative team quit a multiple writers have already quit. So that is not saying anything good. I mean, the, the preview I saw about of it looks fantastic. But yet, that's not a good sign where people are quitting restores. Beverly hills. I'm hearing a big bang theory, a Howard killed raw. Sheldon won the throne. Spoiling. The alcohol talk in the picture that was going around. Jennifer Lopez beyond say a rod sitting on the toilet in their seventeen and a half million dollar apartment. It's being circulated on social media lawyers are looking into it to suit, whoever took it because it appears the photo was taken through the window of from a neighboring folding. So. I'll be honest. I've been looking for it. I can't find them. Can you living in an apartment, it's, it's a seventeen and a half million dollar apartment in the call that we're going dinner with seventeen and a half? Anyway, and game of thrones all about the series finale this weekend. So end Gandhi, probably not going to be here on Monday. I'm taking off, and that's it. This is heaven. Thank you, ten you are you loving it. There's a lot of American. So BB Wrexham, flew all the way to Puerto Rico just to hang out with us. She's performing for us. Not only today here on the beach, but tonight at our big party. That's right. We're having a party. I love a blender. How many more do we need? Here's a picture of a-rod of the toilet in the seventeen dollar apartment anyway. So BB Wrexham issue here. All the people who work with BB have huge beard, notice that anyway. So BB Rex's can take a break. Fixer you like my cherry, Honey. Who hasn't had that will be back with BB Rex right after this really Hilton. 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The Simple Brilliance Of How A Chocolate Chip Cookie Helps Build Brand #693

Inside the Spa Business | Spa

03:38 min | 1 year ago

The Simple Brilliance Of How A Chocolate Chip Cookie Helps Build Brand #693

"Tonight I WanNa talk about the simple brilliance of how a chocolate chip. Cookie can help build a brand greetings from Moscow once again just back from the morning walk but the workout gear thinking that get out and have a nice brisk walk in the morning. Didn't quite realize just have brisker would be for me not for the locals but anyway got out there and do that. But I'm staying at the the Hilton Doubletree. And we're not Roy. Yesterday I knew what to expect as part of the arrival process. I was Gonna get a warm chocolate chip cookie after the chicken and I did and I've only stayed in this brand probably maybe three times in my life but I already knew that. That's what I was going to expect when I came in the door and sure enough. They didn't disappoint and then I started thinking about all the other hotel brands that I've stayed at an older countries overseas. And there's not one arrival gift. Oh gesture that really stuck with me and then I remember this one. I remember and that to me says it's it goes a great way towards building. Your brand new brand stands for. It's a real simple prices. It's a chocolate chip cookie for crying out loud. The cost is minimal. The impact to significant the great thing about it is that you actually get it on arrival the reception staff a hand it to you and so that does a couple of things number one. It gives you an automatic connection with that staff member it also lets the staff members. See the joy and satisfaction you you get by getting a chocolate chip cookie. You know. A lot of five-star hotels will have this nice arrival. Amenity when you get to the room with a note from the general manager maybe bottle of wine a bowl of fruits and chocolates chocolates. And you know to them that that's a high touch kind of experience to me a simple warm chocolate chip cookie on arrival level handed over the reception. The reception desk is a much more high touch experience than what a lot of five star hotels do. And so I think the lesson for anyone in any business is think about what you'll signature touches on particularly arrival and departure experiences. Because that's where you make a big impact and it doesn't have to be expensive. Leave the only thing that I would say that maybe Hilton shooting do. Is this particular chocolate chip. Cookie has not now. They've got to be noticed on there saying that these contains nuts. But you know. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that have not elegies. They wouldn't do it in fact this morning. When I came back from my walk I went to reception? I said to the guy. Hey chocolate chip cookie. I got yesterday and then he smiled and he started the reach down to weigh. The chocolate chip cookies came from and so I stopped asking my the question because I realized I was to get another cookie and then he smiled and looked at me and he said would you like another one and I said well yes would. That's not actually my question but yes I'll take another cookie and so of course I asked him the question about what do you do. Someone has not elegy and he said listen. I've never experienced it. Obviously we'd find an alternative but in a small touch would be I think of improvement to To change the recipe to a non nut recipe just to cover more people. So the lessons are Get your staff off and guest to interact with the exchange of that. Welcome gift make it a real small simple touch something homely something that resonates with a Lotta people and I. I guess the other listeners. If you're curious about something and if you really like it GonNa ask the hotel reception because you might just end up with two already. That is if today. Thank you for your time and I will be back again tomorrow. So yeah. That's good enough for me yes.

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Paris Hilton

Anna Faris Is Unqualified

1:02:50 hr | Last month

Paris Hilton

"Hey everyone. Today's guest is Paris Hilton. Who I I met when I was new to Hollywood, it's been about fifteen years since I last saw her and I still feel the same sense of wonder I had then her new documentary. This Paris shows a side of her that no one has ever seen. I don't WanNa say too much but it was not at all what I expected. You can find this as Paris on her youtube channel after the interview I'm joined once again by world renowned clinical sexologist educator and sex coach Dr, Patty Britain. Who has some advice for how to keep that spark alive in a relationship especially during quarantine but first here's Paris. Ladies and gentlemen you're listening to qualify. Own Affairs. High I love. Oh my God my heart is racing right now I'm really nervous why you know I think anybody who encounters you they would be like so full of Shit if this didn't admit. That I think it's because you are larger than life. Thank you. Wouldn't you pay attention to somebody? It feels like the sun is shining on you. Yes but then when you turn away, it's like, Oh, man overcast love you. How are you? How is everything really gun K Yeah. Crazy Times. Yeah. I was really blown away by your documentary bringing bears. which comes out September fourteenth, right? Yes. I was thinking about my encounters with you can I share memory? Yeah. I think the first time I met you I was invited over to your house by Jake Bailey. who was a brilliant makeup artist and? From what I remember that night. I don't know if you remember this night ipe have I remember you do? Yes. Actually a photos from that night of us. Really. Really. Please do oh, my God i. Bet I just like kind of scared. Here. But I remember you were so kind walking into your house and it was incredibly glamorous and they're all these beautiful people around and from my memory you grabbed my hands. And took me upstairs to your bedroom and I didn't really know anybody there and I felt like holy. Shit. I'm getting picked we went into your room. You did my eye makeup I remember. It was like the most surreal night of my life. So. Fun I love that the House was so much fun back in the day or so many fun memories I totally remember and you showed me your closet. It's just as amazing as you can imagine. Thank you. That was like truly a magical night for me. I'm so happy that you came. After I told my parents which I never told them like about. Early Hollywood. Days but anyway, I think Paris Hilton is my best friend. That's who you are to my family Paris. She was like, oh We have to get Paris to Edmonds. Admissions is where I grew up. Yes. My mom is determined to teach you how to make a pie crust I love that. I love to Cook Thirty Fun. So Paris shall I book Your Plane Ticket? Yeah a students. I'll let my mom. and. Then there is another night in a club and it was so happy to see you and I had to pee and you're like, I know this other bathroom is. Went, through the kitchen you were like, saying, hide all the staff. Always know all the secrets. But I like that new have that side to you and I love that your documentary really reveals those things. Yes. Finally. The first time revealed I think that you have something about you though that is very I think human and vulnerable about you. That through all the beauty people can see which is pretty incredible thing. I think. I'm going to cry. Love you. Did you cry during the movie Yes I did. Do you get that a lot with your friends that have seen it. Yes. Did A lot of people know about your journey no-one I never talked about with my family my friends, my sister, my boyfriend's no one was the first time. How long did it take to filming tire documentary? Around a year and a half and did you know that the story would end up where it did? No that was not the original plan at all the film was originally just supposed to be about my life being a business woman you know all the fun parts I never thought I would ever reveal the secrets or really go that deep or really be myself I. Thought I was just GonNa. Continue playing the character. But during this film I just got so close with director. She was just so amazing and made me feel so comfortable where I felt like I could tell her anything for me maybe like the first forty minutes, it's so much glamour and this completely unimaginable live and then the shift is like holy. Heck. So was that about six months him when you were starting to be To a camera and film crew that you trusted that kind of ask you to take a deeper dive into things the I think it was about seven months into filming the director and I had just formed this really close relationship. I was traveling I was on a tour or travelling around Europe and Asia, and then I was in Korea and I just been working nonstop and was on no. Sleep and just feeling just physically and emotionally exhausted and having severe nightmares and all the sudden I just started opening up to her about what I went through and these traumatic experiences and then she just kept pushing asked more and more but I kind of didn't feel comfortable like I don't want to say this on camera I don't want this is part of my story at want people to know. And she convinced me to Thomas Stories like this is who you are. This is real. I want people to know by you are how you are and what happened to you in your life because it's something that's really serious and then I finally felt brave enough to come forward with my full story but it's amazing. A lot of times on podcasts like I'll talk about my high school reunion you know and like whatever that experience was, which was mundane but I think you didn't have anything close to like a high school graduation. Or a prom. or any of the typical. Experiences that most of us have not not get to experience any that. Which makes me sad because I look at movies are seeing my friends and seeing all the memories of people coming graduation and going to the prom and just doing all the things that a normal teenager does into have missed out on that the bums me out the guy I wish I could like go back and be able to do all of that. Paris wasn't all that. Great. I WanNa talk intimately with you because your documentary. So intimate I would think that your high guard blessed, of course be rooted in that massive trauma and I don't want you to have to get into. If, you don't WanNa talk about that at all. Really. Okay. Are you in a relationship now yes. Amazing. Relationship the best one ever. Didn't know it was possible to feel this way or be so happy I feel so safe. So ahead, yes. How long have you been with this person? We've known each other for fifteen years. Oh, that's nice. Yes. We've been friends for a long time and then this Thanksgiving I went to visit my family and the Hamptons and we got invited over to their house or Thanksgiving lunch and them for dinner again and ever since then we have just been inseparable. Seizing, how did you guys me? I'll we met some fifteen years ago at the same house that you went to the Kings road has that I used to live on at one of my epic parties and ever since family friends and then reconnected again thanksgiving. Did. You guys have like a flirty text e thing for fifteen years we just would see each other around but then as soon as we were in the Hamptons and had our first kiss, then we are just texting back and forth, and then we are just inseparable where we've literally not spent a night apart since then do you guys have clam bakes? The hamptons. The hamptons. Yes. That involves like digging a big hole and sticking a bunch of clams in them I don't do that part, but I'm sure someone. I just eat them. But yeah, we do that. We do lakes Moore's on the beach. It's fun I love the Hamptons. Okay I'M GONNA ask you a couple questions if you don't mind. Sure. Okay. What is a trait you dislike and others? I don't like when people are rude to other people or liars I hate liars have a question on here which is on what occasion do you Li-. That I ask everybody and I was thinking about that question in regards to you and I felt like I don't think Paris really lies. No I'm very open. I'm not a liar. I. Think the only thing I would lie about is to not hurt someone's feelings of somebody asked me something and I knew it would make them sad or make them feel insecure than I would just. Like a little white lie no big deal. But I don't lie about big things. It does feel like your life is so large you. Your Life is already kind of unbelievable. Yeah. All right. What is a trait? You dislike in yourself I hate that I'm shy. I think from what I've went through I get like socially awkward sometimes. So just being shy and feeling that way he that feeling can I ask you? Do you feel shy right now a little bit because I always feel shy. Ninety two. Okay what qualities do you look for in a romantic partner? Loyalty. Someone who can make me laugh and someone who's my best friend and HANDSOMENESS IS A. Brownie. I guess. What is your greatest extravagance? I love cars unlike a Tomboy, I love like fast cars. So what's your favorite car I have this car called the slim mobile and it's the new BMW. Convertible and I had it wrapped in this like amazing holographic. It literally looks like a Mermaid Unicorn Skins. Really Cool. Love it. I love the idea of view cruising around the Hamptons in that. D like to drive or do you like to ride I love to drive. Yeah I do too. I'm not quite sure if I'm the best driver but shooting like. I say that I'll like. secretively like the cops are right around the corner. Okay to whom would you most like to apologize and why trying to think No one. I just I really can't think of anyone I feel like I've always been so kind and good to people even when I shouldn't have been. So I don't know I can't really think of anyone I would apologize to because I don't ever do anything. To hurt people's feelings, I'm very sensitive about that Peres that is the fucking radical answer I've ever heard. It's true. Amazing. Yes. Okay. If you could live anywhere in the world for a year, where would it be London? I love London from my favorite cities in the world what do you laugh about it? Everything, the people the food shopping the live architecture just it's my favorite places I used to actually live there for six months. I really loved it. But what about the weather the weather can be brutal sometimes so I think if it had la weather, I would live there fulltime. Yeah. I love London to okay. What qualities do you look for in a friend Swan trustworthy who has good intentions Who wants to be my friend for the right reasons and? Sloan, WHO's fun to hang out with and has good energy and again can make me laugh because I love laughing. Okay Peres immanent back into like. La Memories during those times. Like that night from me? I'm probably. Twenty three or twenty four and it was mind blowing for me in kind of just the beauty end like truly the Hollywood -ness of it. But I, imagine you have never had that experience because that has been your life at a pretty young age right like fourteen or fifteen yes. Is there anything that can like blow your minds have you had like in in the last decade something that is amazed you I feel that I've. lived. So many lifetimes because I've done so many things and went so many amazing places and just seen at all the nothing really excites me anymore because I, feel like I've just seen everything and more think one of the things that blew my mind was for one of my anniversaries 'cause my boyfriend I celebrate every single mom and he always just comes up with Lang Super. And recently he set up like this whole movie theater outside at the House on the balcony and it was just like the huge screen and he knows I, Love Marilyn Monroe and I've never seen any of her movies. So he had that and like presence and flowers and candles and it just. I'm not used to guys doing romantic things for me because I just never have had the time and I was never went the right person. So just to have someone do something. So special for me every month just like blows my mind what he does are you guys able to quarantine? Yes Oh. That's great. Yeah and you guys are so in love after what it's now nine months, we just had our nine-month in St Congratulations Paris Yeah said this pandemic is Ben really scary and really hard but like to see the silver lining and the fact that we've been able to spend so much time together, I haven't had to travel to becoming so close I feel like this pandemic is either like a make or break situation with relationships I've seen so many People break up or get divorced, and then I've seen other couples just become. So close because of it Peres could you name like four or five of your most valued items like sentiment or whatever however you wanNA define noth- like if you only take five items if a fire came your way, I would take my eyes loans because obviously I love my phone's and you and my twenty first birthday draft, which is like the iconic spark lead beautiful dress that I love and. I would take like my like I, have these really amazing. Boots from Philip Lion they're all crystallized and I love my know it's pretty random. Now, it's just impractical. I need my twenty first birthday address these minutes now. Out of the fire in style. Okay Paris who would you invite to your dream? Dinner Party I would invites Marilyn Monroe Princess Diana. Snoop Dogg and you. Paris. Thanks. Asked me yes. I would love to come to your dinner? Party. Pretty let but you did pick to tragic ladies there at the top. I. Just I love Them I've always been obsessed with Maryland and Princess Diana. Just think that they're such legends and such amazing women. But there's tragedy in both of them. Yeah. In every still uc of either of them, you can see like a little pain behind the I relate to that. I know has doing press in Madrid for the House bunny and this woman she was telling me that I had a lot of sadness behind my eyes and asking me to talk about that. I'll never forget it and I'm really grateful for it actually because it felt I've been doing press for the House bunny so it was like SORORITIES. It's a whole different thing in America. I don't remember what I said, but I, do think that that's what makes you fascinating too because I think that your appeal was sort of rooted in that on some level we recognized you were playing a character on the simple life at what point did you recognize that you wanted to identify it like that I developed that character like back when I was a teenager I think it was almost like a mask to hide behind and then when I did the show I knew that was the character that I was going to put on and I was going to portray but I didn't know that the show would be such a huge success and I'd have to continue playing that character year after year. So I kind of to Scott almost like stuck in the character where I sometimes even forgot who I was myself because I just was so nonstop and always having to be on and always laying it all the time. So he kind of like lost in and caught up in it and somehow I don't know I just kind of forgot who I was. Are you still close with people that you were really close with ten years ago? Yeah not everybody. Because you kind of learn about people and see that they're not good people. So I'd cut out a lot of people from my life but the good ones I kept, how large is your circle of friends? Not Large mine has like right here. Like I have like a million acquaintances and then I have a very tight group of friends because I just don't trust people and it's hard for me to open up especially I think just from being so busy and focusing so much on my business in my work and having to be on a plane two, hundred, fifty days of the year it's hard to maintain friendships and really build trusting relationships when you're never there most of US experience a lot of loneliness but I can get the idea that you experience it. To more extreme degree. Does. Seem like a lonely lifestyle definitely. Just, having to travel and constantly just be surrounded by strangers and foreign countries. And I've been doing this for so long sats been very, very lonely even though I was always surrounded by so many people I still felt alone because I didn't know anyone. So yeah, it's been hard Paris for some reason it was never easy for me to make friends with other women. I. Don't know if you are the same way like are most of your friends look female. But. I know what you mean i. do find it hard sometimes to be friends with some girls because you can't trust them and there's a lot of especially in this town a lot of girls who like to backstab and just talk behind your back. So hard thing I let people in but I I really am careful about it. Yeah. So Paris Wha, what is the closest you've felt to anonymity in like twenty years or your lifetime? Never, really feel that way. I think sometimes when I do feel that way as when I'm in. On disguise. Like I've even like went out at times with prosthetics really doesn't even look like me at all just to go to Disneyland or somewhere and not. Have to you know basically be doing a meeting great. The whole time I feel like any time I go to one of those places it's just people are lining up and I'm just taking photos the whole time which I don't mind I love being nice to people making people's day and making people smile. But when I go to Disneyland and places like that I wanna go on the rides and just like be normal. I love the idea that we've hopefully just planted into our listeners heads that you could beat any. Yes. Paris could be anywhere. Baldy man behind the cash register that could be Paris. You. Okay, could you handle being in a boat alone for a month? I could handle anything 'cause I've been through it all. But being on a boat for a month alone which be. So born I could deal with it but I would be really bored especially if I had no phone. There's something that's like. wonderfully twisted about that. If I. Ask most people they will be like No. I. Think I might go crazy after week two. You're just like once again, I, don't have to apologize to anybody and yeah give me six months on about all fucking ticket. Stone holidays. All right. Here's something that we talk about in our podcast. Little Bit. The idea of love in your teens is something different because I complained a lot about the idea that we only have one word for love when it's this whole, you know spectrum of. Feelings but do you believe that love in your teens is different from the love in your twenty s Pinko near a teen it's completely different from one year more mature because when you're a teen everything is so new to you. So you're more naive and open to it and excited about it. And that I feel like when you go through things and breakups and. You know maybe abusive relationships. There's so many things that can happen that. Kind of strip that away from you where the love that you felt back. Then you won't feel as much anymore because you lose yourself off from love because of going through certain things I don personal experience. That's how I think when we first in love when I was like sixteen, I thought I was in love because there was like my first boyfriend but I think it was just me being a kid. I fell into that trap to. Oh my God but it sure felt like love it was dizzying like I couldn't. Focus on anything else. I love. Okay when or where were you happiest now right now with me? Yes. All the real. Oh. Oh Jeez. So happy these past few months suspend the best time I live. My relationship is what makes me so happy because I'm just not used to feeling like this? Yeah. Okay Peres what's your favorite ice cream flavor? Have lots of my most favorite cookies and cream. That's pretty frequent one. But a lot of the boys do vanilla so boring well, they like to add toppings which I think is sort of indicative of. Our Culture Menendez making your own kind of ice cream I love doing that too literally order like. A Big Cup of dislike the smashed up like butterfinger and Lan another come of just like hot butterscotch caramel and I just basically eat out alone with has been. It's so good. Do you have in a rational fear? The other one thing I'm scared of his death because I don't know what happens why because if there's nothing that I would be so boring boredom that's your biggest fear you mentioned it on the boat. All right. We're putting this together I hate being bored Oh God no I'm really nervous again, my boring you rally really not. This is gonNA haunt me tonight. A. Okay. Who would you call if you got food poisoning and couldn't really move? My mom should probably know what to deal with to come over yes, we're super close. All right. So you can handle being alone but you can't handle Boorda I can handle it i. just don't enjoy it. I like to be entertained and have fun. All right. What's your favorite rainy day movie I? Love there's something about Mary. Just think that Louis is so hilarious Ben Stiller it's such a fun movie. So hilarious. Okay what haven't you taken the time to learn about? Foreign languages I went to Lisa I'll say to Los Angeles. And we had to speak French and because I've never used it after that I just completely forgot it and I just think it's such a shame being named Paris and not being able to speak French. So that's one thing. Do you want me to hook you up with the French tutor? Sure we? Why do I have this feeling that I feel like you wouldn't take the zoom classes that I signed you up for Isleta. to He doesn't lie. Yup. Yup. Paris, how do you imagine your life? If let's say at age nine year, parents were taking new to see the train station in downtown. Los. Angeles. And you hopped on a train and you ended up like with no identity name. Let's say Omaha and this Nice family took you in and. which you be do you think that you would be like I don't know manager at the Q. and like head cheerleader the I like the head cheerleader let be like that Marianne or an artist painting. I don't think so. No. You're like biggest fear is boredom. True. I would think that you'd be like well, I wouldn't fucking stay. Be Often New York. Let's draft had to stay there. No. I get the hell out of there and go to New York or in lead. and. By the way you mentioned or I think your mom mentioned that you wanted to be a veterinarian. Yes. Okay. I know how much you love animals. You always have in your closer to animals than you are to people except I think I the action but I don't see you as a veterinarian if you're most exciting thing is removing like spleen from somebody's old cat like sounds beard all. Just. lost. Not, only boring just gross and hard. Yes. So when we talk about your alternate life, I, think we really have to visualize that it's like just docking about you know an impossibility. Yeah you're right I agree just learn animal ever does not mean you WanNa be that. Doesn't suit. Okay. Did you play with barbies growing up? Yes I still collect them. Were they your most favorite toy? Yeah. I was a tomboy. So I liked other types of tweets as well. But like what other types just like video games and I, don't know I've always collected like figurines and just different anime characters and sailor moon. I always love Mardi wait. Did you ever do anything perverse with your barbies? I got to an age I'd heard of the concept of Hor. Houses. So I started making like Barbie whorehouse. have like the male customers come dress up the little rooms watch how old real maybe around eleven or something you didn't do anything like that. Come on. No I've never heard anyone do anything like that. Exciting friends. And I should have been hanging out with you and I was little. I would take him to the ducks. Yeah. Yeah we also put used to play Barbie. Murder Mystery. So you didn't do that either. No. I would just dress them up and that was about a no killing. You cut their hair yeah. When I was very little. Cut All the hair off some of them are that's mean did you do that to your sisters to one time? Cut. Nikki's bangs off and she was two years old I think because it was like the new baby and I was jealous. So I like literally cut off her bangs my mom is so past. What other things have you done to your sister? come on come as she was more of the meanwhile because she would always tell on me. So Nikki was always like the good wine and You're like a mob boss. Because she's a rat, she's worse. Yes. Very, Hilton is anti whistle blower. What else she was actually always acted like the big sister like she was always the one who is the boss like in charge and would always tell me what to do. We have this relationship where I've always like looked up to her as like my big sister she's always been the one who's been more mature. Do you still believe that? Yes, but the quality make you mad you know how? Like sometimes one sibling is Perceived to be good and responsible. And the other one isn't and they kind of feed into that identity. So you were solid in like being the bad one. Noble you never like nothing bad is perhaps never gotten to say nothing like that. The only thing I was annoyed was when I was little like a teenager, Nikki would always love to Tattletale to my parents so that would just make me annoyed obviously. Today's episode of unqualified is brought to you in part by babble. 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And find the delivery options near you celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee Wisconsin Ninety six calories in three point two carbs per twelve ounces. Hey, Paris for what historical figure would you start a fan club for the stoorikhel a year. Marilyn. Would you think you love about her I don't know as hers very special and just her photos are too. So iconic timeless and after watching more of her films now and like a documentary on her just seeing how much she went through an just how strong was. Her whole story is just very fascinated. Paris. Are you still really close with your director of the documentary? Yes. I want to ask you dumb things like how have you changed but avid hated somebody asked me that because I don't even know if one can have perspective on that accurately but have you changed Definitely. Changed in so many ways 'cause I honestly didn't even know I truly was up until this past year this film. So I just learned so much about myself and I think just from going what I went through I just tried to. Bury my emotions. So just like letting that all out was very. Therapeutic. Experience Paris. What's your favorite holiday? Halloween I love Halloween so much love dressing up. I'm so sad there's probably not going to be Halloween. This year says like I live for Halloween like sometimes like seven to ten days of just amazing parties dressing up in different costumes every single day. Love it Peres a hate Halloween how do you hate it Fast. I hated it because I kind of feel like I dress for a living. So if there's a little bit of a Chore Factor But the bigger issue is dressing up in something sexy makes me uncomfortable on a base level. But then if I don't if I look really unattractive and do something funny or clever. You think it's going well for like fifteen minutes and you're just jealous of all the other girls hot. I've never done a funny costume or any of that. So I don't even know how that feels. Not. Great. Yes. That's hilarious. Yeah I don't know I feel like Halloween is like the ultimate excuse to distress as sexy as possible and get away with it yeah. You've just summed up. Like. My. Fundamental Uncomfortable Association of God, with that Palette. Okay. When do you feel your most independent when I'm skydiving? I love to skydive and six times Harris. You've given me the most amazing answers to like all my questions. I've never been skydiving some credible. You know earlier when I asked you about fear do you have any irrational fears like beside you know I mean death feels pretty rational. Irrational Pretty. Fearless I've always been daredevil jumping out of a plane that many times and just things I do I feel I have been through so much that nothing really scares me. Okay, but what about bees I hit us I don't know anyone who likes peas maybe beekeepers honey out of them but I has you know how opposites attract. I really like bees watch. You're not scared of them. No no I'm not even stone. Yeah And you liked them. Paris I like bees so much that when I was a kid I ordered in the mail, a bumblebee nests lico all like wooden. Container and you have to. Find. Like wild mouse nesting to attract the Queen bumble bee when she comes out of. Hibernation in the spring. Okay what about your a rustling or a shadow in the backyard would be terrified if someone was in the backyard. A one time a couple years ago. This man was like four thirty in the morning and I could hear this loud banging and I went downstairs and there is this man in my backyard. which was banging on my windows to my living room and just trying to get in Paris. What did you do? I was freaking out and my boyfriend at the time was with me. Thank God and he had a gun. So he went outside the gun to the jazz had a call. The police took an hour to come, and then the police came and they talked to him and I was standing there and he he said I just escaped from a mental institution I went to Hollywood Boulevard I bought a star map. I saw Paris Hilton's name I. Know that she has a lot of money thousand. I was GONNA come here and killer, and he just set it like it was a normal thing. So that was to refine. Yeah. That's awful. Pretty scary about thank God that I woke up. He didn't just come in because I don't think I would be here today otherwise. Do you find that it's hard to like when you are out in public d? You tend to always look down because making contact means engagement. Yeah I get shy if I know the person than I can but usually, I feel like so many people are always looking at me but if I look up in a catch someone's eye, just I get immediately, really shy I used to live by Hollywood and highland. And if I wandered around there, I I found that people wouldn't recognize me at all. Even the were a ton of tourists. There's so many other things to look at. Like why isn't angry? Yeah. I don't know if I would describe you as shy I would almost describe you as this ethereal alien. Cereal. Like Oh, where do I fit in with his human? Land I cracked you open didn't I? Yes. I knew it Peres. Perez in one word, how would you like to be remembered kind Oh I. Love that. Embarrass I. Really Love Your Documentary in Kiel. It's unbelievably. Oil It goes to this beautiful place and I can't thank you enough for doing this with me. I really appreciate it. Thanks Yale and I miss you. I love you. I love you and thank you for making me feel like a cool girl in our law I love you. You're so awesome. All right. If I dialing by. Hey everyone I'm excited to have Dr Patty Britain back with more straightforward and uninhibited advice on ways to improve our sex lives. If you want more of Dr Patty, you can find her at Dr Patty Britain dot com links can be found in our show notes. Dr, Patty thank you so much for joining us. Again you are invaluable ir enjoying it immensely we are going to call. Ashley. Hello Hi Ashley you're here with myself. and Dr Patty Britain I high. Guys. Oh. Great. How are you? Good Good Ashley. Thank you so much for doing this. You tell us what's going on yeah for sure So my boyfriend and I've been together for over seven years now. And we've always been like very outgoing couple together where we go to parties and we travel a lot for concerts or football games and stuff which usually results in a lot of sexy time. Put it that way, and since cove it started I've noticed that physically that connection kind of lulled a little bit because we've been around each other twenty, four seven, we're not going anywhere. We're not doing anything, and so I talked to my best friend about it and she kind of in the same boat to the long-term relationship. So we were just kinda wondering like what's advice and to try and like reignite that physical connection when you're such close quarters all the time oh my gosh actually. Love the US this question because. We are all there. You are every person on earth in a relationship. Well, yeah, and I find like it's weird when you get in relationships especially when their long-term people don't necessarily talk about sex anymore and it's kind of taboo or it's just put a negative laid when really it's just like what are you guys doing but people don't really talk like that. So I was really looking forward to getting some more advice on that. That's an interesting thing to say but you're right. It's almost like when you're couple friends get to know you guys you can't like spill the beans about your sex life as you once could in the beginning of a relationship. Yes. For sure dodger Patty, what do we do to have sex a lot these days? Well, this is the billion dollar question that's going on in bedrooms all over the world because so many people are cooped up with their once beloved. Being a little sarcastic and I mean, the lust goes away the love is still there I think that the love is easy to maintain but the lust, the desire, right that kind of I want her I want him I want them. and. One of the things that you said is so important, which is that you use to change the context. Of where you spent time and you had adventures that took you out of kind of the normal living day to day in your environment. Right. When you go to a game or you go to concert, you travel to a different city and it's interesting just attended a Webinar last week on male sexuality and it was really about couples and he was really talking about how females are so context driven when it comes to turning on what do you mean? Okay. So that what the setting is like is really a big part of it. And I think that what's happening for you and it's so common is it's kind of like, okay. Same stuff different day. and Are you working at home the two of you we were I just gotta go ahead about a month ago to go back to work. So we've started to get a little bit of separation but yeah, for about three or four months. Yeah. Like he had upstairs downstairs exactly. So there's no room for longing. Okay, and this is what's killing desire is that each of you is to available literally to available and you're suffocated. I hear it all the time from my clients and the students that I trained who are doing the same kind of work. So you have to create a form of separation and that's why when you travel, you're actually separating from day to day living together. And when one of you goes to work or one of you even goes to trader Joe's to go shopping. You break that monotony of having each other around all the time 'cause you can't want when you have what you want. That makes sense for sure and I think in my context to is like I, didn't mean it in a negative way but like I enjoy missing the person that I'm with. I enjoy that feeling of wanting to see them. Yes, and you can't have that when there's no one to miss or nothing to miss exactly and they give you this really cool tool that might help you a sex therapist named. Jack Marin created this formula and it's called the formula of sexual excitement and desire. Okay you want to hear it. Yes. It's really simple. You could write it down E. The letter e for excitement equals a so there has to be attraction. You guys already have attraction or you wouldn't be together and here's the most important part. Plus P. O. for perceived obstacle. That's why you can't miss him. There's no obstacle and perceived obstacle. This is why couples fight by the way because when they fight what they create is an obstacle between them and then they have the best sex called make-up's. Right. Dr. Patty. I was going to give Ashley the advice of like when she gets home from work going to her bedroom wearing a really tiny skirt with no underwear and talking about how some made up dude was hitting on her at Work Oh man I know. Is that an example of perceived obstacle. Yes and it could be real or imagined. Hey. Well hopefully, you're partners knows exactly what you're up to. So you just hit on another like a vein in this search for the gold right? Here's the other vein. Sexy comes from inside US sexy not desire not sexual, but feeling sexy is from the inside. And there's something that happens when we get sexy ourselves and then we kind of Strut parade around with our partner and I think that you're onto something. Ana. Which is first of all separate yourself that separation. That's the key here perceived obstacle equal separation. You create that by putting on something that makes you feel sexy. What makes you feel sexy it's not sweat I'll bet. No. And there's been a lot of that. Yes. You know the joke. What are those? They're called pants. That's what happened in the world observing. What makes you feel sexy what kind of outfit would make you feel sexy. I'm a teddy girl yeah. I in tips have always been my best features. So I'm always located tops. The yeah. Hey So what about a shelf raw about if I don't know what that is, it holds the bottom of the breasts up. But they rest on it like a shell. So it's kind of a push up but open and then one of my favorites is nipple. Jewelry. So nipple jewelry does two things. It's a visual for your partner and you and the mirror right. But. Here's this really piece of science. What happens when we stimulate a nipple is the same lighting up the brain as when we stimulate the. The Nipple connects to our sexual parts. Literally Isn't that amazing? Yeah. They have these really cool of they're called nooses. So you can get these dangling nooses that go around the nipple and they have like a jewel hanging get them online just google. Yes. Can I tell you something that's happening right now? Dr Patty. Dear what. My partner Michael. Right. Now is looking up nipple through. Apparently. We're onboard. Customer. Approve Okay But the thing is you take this little news around your nipple right and you tight net and so you're actually like pinching the nipple, which is creating a stimulation that goes right to your brain. Just like you were having someone did Ling your clitoris imagine I am kind of. Dr Betty you people have or Gazprom's with nipple stimulation alone. Some Ken. Yes Wow Yeah It depends on your unique body for everybody is listening everybody is wired differently literally wired with nerve cords. But the fact is that many many males and females Are aroused through nipple play and men can enjoy that too. This is something that I think we as girls and women don't really think about that much. You write that involves don't know what to do with them. Over afraid to hurt A, we don't want harm them. Very delicate, tight. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Good actually. Now, wait a minute. Man Lang very hard squeeze. This is why you have to communicate with your partner. Because you have to find out what your partner enjoys deserves some males who actually enjoy really hard ball play and some don't want touched it. Awesome like you to bite some like you lick. Or just squeeze or rub or tickle with the end of a nail, all kinds of behaviors but it depends on the body. So back to what would make you feel sexy what else would make you feel sexy like high cut French lays Bong panties. Oh totally. Yeah. I'm a big Fan. I love dressing out. So I would definitely should probably definitely take notes and incorporate more of that during these times for sure. What about heels like High Heel Lady Gaga Kinda stuff? Oh Gosh. I would be more of stocking versus a he'll person if I was going for leg just because I am short and clumsy and he'll okay I don't know how you did it in the House Bunny Alabama Godhra. I can't tell you how many times I almost broke my back. A couple of shots where I'm wobbling. I was about to go down. But actually I do it that in this time, I haven't had all of us a reason to dress up at all. So it's really nice that it's odd reserved for that like I. Hate wearing heels in my daily life I hate it but it has been so fun to wear some my pretty sexy heels I only have to walk from the closet the bedroom. Like seven. But that's been really fun and makes me feel very sexy I mean that must be very common. Right Dr Patty that if you are wearing something like a thong or something that is constantly stimulating you a little bit that's reminding you of your body and for me that feeling of power that heals give power ends weakness all at the same time that wonderful combination. Well I'm going to go one better, and that is to suggest that there so many leisure products on the market today, and some of them come from like ancient practices of what were called Ben Wa balls or a little ball bearings or little objects that used to be put in the woman's Vagina to constantly remind her and stimulate her so that she was constantly. lubricated and ready for sex. So today's world of the sex toy generation has a lot of these products that are safe that are made of either a medical grade silicone which won't harm you or even carve stones. You know at some really beautiful decorative kind of pleasure products. But if you wanted to do something really fun, you could wear some of these they might. Be, called a K. Goal Ball because they're also used to strengthen the K. goals, which is the muscle that's under girdle of our pelvic floor, the PC muscles, and so if you wore those, you would be stimulating yourself just like you just set on it and reminding your body all the time that you are there, and that's part of keeping your body hot and wanting. that. Makes Sense. Yes that. That's great. I think it's just like you get in those slumps right? Where like same the same the same and you get not necessarily board but you're doorman has kind of the way I put it in like you forget about that stimulating pleasure and stuff that makes you feel sexy. Yeah. Ashley, I'm so with you I'm going to say one other thing that I hadn't said before that I want to really touch base on because it's something I hear a lot from my clients around the world. And that is when I get a couple on their new couples clients to mine and they say, we're not having sex where just not where sex list we don't touch any more, but we're best friends and I go. I'm so sorry to hear that. Reason, I, say that is I. Think it's great that a couple can be best friends, but it can be deadly to desire the other person as an erotic object. Now, that may sound weird. 'cause we're object defying our partner, but we have to in a way we have to separate and want that person and that person's body mind soul. Whatever it is that you want, and that might help you as well to stop seeing each other as kind of family. Good friends, besties but lovers, there's a different energy when you show up as lovers does that kind of relate back to what you were saying about when a couple of fights that the tension can be sort of a kickstarter? Yes. Angers a really cool emotion. Most of the time, we look at anger and relationships and we go oh no anger but it's actually a really high energy emotion and it's a push away emotion anger goes out from us even if we don't express it, that's how we feel like lot of. You know under wall. And anger is a way to create separation, but it has to then finish you can't let anger. Fester Erdal kill a relationship. So Y- it's like you know pop. Don't hold back but finished the pop. And I think that fighting is a great way of building passion. Anger is passionate passionate, and that's what you're lacking as well. When you get settled that kind of feeling of words those saddle. It's just not what you want to be sexual and Hungary for each other. I love the idea of Ashley making up a character named Sean work. He just won't stop staring at her tits and you know and it's just so frustrating, Sean, always like staring. I might steal from you I hope. Not Copyrighted. Actually Feel good because that's. Obstacle that you need to create the tension and the resistance and the separation. And it's totally made up, but it doesn't matter because the energies real for sure I. Love the idea of a short skirt though and like little kitten heels to no wonder where or maybe a tiny thong. Chrysler. Excellent fans. And then you just have to be bending over all the time you need to. You know constantly dropping things I can do this. Yes totally. Ashley. Thank you so much. This moves really fun for me to you. Know we're all in this together. It sounds like you're in a relationship that you love and facing the problem and have the courage to talk about the problem that most of us have. So I can't thank you enough for sure. You give me lots of ideas. Good. and just get out of the house at times you know safely. Go take a walk for an hour and be gone yeah. I've been wearing sweats for the last six months to but. I love the idea of like wearing really tight shirts again, just something that makes me aware of my own body. So I can absorb sort of that feeling of my own sexuality to, and you're right Dr Patty that sexuality comes from within and can't be taught or does it have to do with sort of confidence or I mean I don't know shower can be taught will if you adjust to the idea of like I'm. Just. Write that on the mirror with lipstick every morning I'm sexiest. Well you can play with that. You know the language is really playful and it's also got energy in it. You feel that like when you say I fuck -able, there's something different from I love him. It's a really different feeling. So you have to power yourself up you can use all of your senses to awaken yourself I mean, I do courses outfielder sexy. There's a lot to say about it just keeping your consciousness that little formula of E. Equals a less peo- and keep looking for the peos because that's going to help you a lot in keeping that separation going, and then wanting to come back together literally and figuratively for sure awesome. Thank you guys so much I appreciate. Actually thank you so much in Diet can't thank you enough for talking with. PODCAST and it was great to be a part of it Ashley. Thanks again I hope that you guys leg. Bang. He's not home yet. So I have time to get ready. ooh. Jewelry. Sweetie. Thank you. Dr Patty. Thank you. Once again, you are just incredible of what you do and love love talking to you and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day. Thank you again. bye-bye. Thanks so much for by.

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Mystery on Blood Mountain

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Mystery on Blood Mountain

"I'm Lester Holt tonight on dateline first thing that really got my attention is messing plug mountain and you have to be aware of surroundings all the time because just never know it started with a frightening horror flick from the Eighties Crimson. Movie is. We're GONNA take some women into the woods and then they're gonNA be hunted down decades later. It was happening for real strange vanishing in the forest we begin to to get disturbing news just broke. Another tire looked like it had been corpus Louis flat if someone has her she's afraid we have a in killer running around loose in the national forest. Could this old movie hold the key to these new cases. It's film where he's setting women out in the woods. Do you think that's the template for what he does. That's what's so chilling. Anybody could survive. It was aired and if anybody could fight it was meredith Here's Dennis Nice Murphy. With mystery on blood. Mountain national forests are places of refuge Our folks that WanNa get away from the city and have a sense of peace with nature but it now you have to be aware of your surroundings all the time because just never know the splendors. The Americas National Parks Forest Lands Poems. Just waiting to be written by inch new visit from the cathedrals of the rockies to the quiet glades old growth of the Appalachians. It's here in the parks. We have the promise of stepping out of the hubbub of our chattering daily routine. That was the kind of serenity Meredith Emerson sought on the Crisp New Year's Day in the north Georgia mountains. Not More than foothills really for a young woman who eloped trail climb her native rockies. It was two thousand eight. The young sales assistant set out from Buford Georgia with her dog L. A. Roomy Julia currently or from college days had slept in that morning she had left me a note just a little note on a chalkboard took Ella went hiking not wear not when not one. I'm going to be back back so it wasn't really anything out of the ordinary meredith like Rumi. Julia was a dog person. She doted on L.. Her black glad mixed since finding her the rescue shelter she had two dogs growing up and she wanted one of her own so she kind of talked about it and research. What she wanted hidden definitely wanted to rescue dog and finally found one went out loved her brought her home and it really was the light of her life Julia? The roommate didn't know that meredith an Ele- were heading forty miles. North to Blood Mountain chattahoochee national forest despite the creepy teen slasher remove name. Blood Mountain is one of the most popular places to hike in the southeast. The famous apple H.. In trail two main takes off from just south of here back in Beaufort. The roommate spent her New Year's Day with friends and did notice. That merited hadn't come home until the next morning a- back to work day. She would leave Ella in my room and I would take care of her in the morning And I'm like Oh L. is not here. It's that was a little strange to me. And I called her cell phone and went straight to voicemail and I thought maybe shows that work when when did you become anxious Jillian. When I got to work she worked with a good friend of ours and the friend called me and said Meredith stingiest for work and mayors always at work? She was the first one at work. Reliable Meredith wasn't where she was supposed to be. Julia called the sheriff socks then she and some of meredith other other friends assembled a search part. Maybe she'd twisted her ankle hiking and taken a tumble. They started with that note on the chalkboard where I'm going hiking would naturally be. We had a few ideas. We took some books that she had some places that she highlighted in kind of deserted driving the French poodle the car at trail heads. She'd mark in her hiking guides. There was four of us in the car and we were trying to tell me a call Park Rangers and anybody that may have seen her her car and then a friend of hers found her car called US and said I found it and there was snow on a car parking area at the base of blood now and we drove Casaus. We could there and just you know just that sinking feeling when you first see it up the blood mountain feeder path to the Appalachian Trail But no trace of meredith or so by nightfall. The search became all the more urgent as a cold. Front moved in temperatures on Blood Mountain plunged below zero at daybreak Thursday. Now the friends were joined by deputies from the local sheriff's Office John Caygill just shy of retirement. Was the agent charge for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation States. Top cops received a request from local agency to help with a missing hiker. The case of the hiker missing for two days didn't look good to the season detective because of some disturbing items that had been recovered on the trail. What were the things that were found? Addison trail area that you thought were alarming. A couple of water bottles dog leash and Police expandable baton. This is a piece of professional gear. It is it's just a metal pipe that is expandable. You see almost every uniform police officer in the nation carrying these things did those artifacts the water bottle the the baton found together. Tell you a story at all or suggests something ominous yes and we found those items in an area where the ground had appeared to have been undisturbed then we became concerned. Possibly a struggle took place there. Meredith water bottles ellas leash and signs of a struggle. Nothing about about the scene. Look good to the veteran law man especially that expandable police baton that was found he called in health. Aw eventually partnered with over eighteen or nineteen police agencies to help search from that. Her friends were naturally beside themselves. You know your heart just broke because you think something happened. Somebody had a weapon and stuff was there. She's been abducted and it was so hard because it wasn't something that we could talk about until we could actually prove that the cops commandeered a park building headquarters. We begin getting information pretty quickly. It from people who had hiked the trails at day right remembered her remembered her and we began to get Disturbing News of strange looking individual with meredith who also so had a dog some nail description. This other person. You hear strange looking Just a wiry kind of guy older guy older guy we even developed a vehicle description. White van the lead on the van came from this photo taken by a hiker in the blood mountain parking lot the night before Meredith Emerson Jason went missing a beyond. The lookout advisory went out for the guy driving a white van accompanied by his reddish dog. It is going to be a white male between the ages of fifty and sixty years old approximately one hundred and sixty pounds. It was described as he has bad dental. He had a dark reddish colored Retriever we put out that information through the media in Atlanta and actually got a call from someone who said I think coming to see it when we return. This mysterious stranger would prove to be stranger than anyone expected. I just turned. Wipe out the blood. Leave my face and Meredith. Emerson had not been the only one missing in the forest. If she's still alive and someone has her her she's Afraid Meredith Emerson and her lab L. A.. We're two days missing on Georgia's Blood Mountain early. In a freezing January of two two thousand eight her friend had alerted the authorities and people from all over greater Atlanta were scouring the hiking trails so many volunteered. They couldn't use all all people just showed up and just said I have a daughter who likes to hike. I have a sister who could have been meredith easily and they just volunteer onto their time. The search in the national forests had become something more ominous than a lost hiker incident. Meredith had been last seen in the company of an an unsavory looking. Stranger law enforcement was about to identify the tip came from John Taber Atlanta businessman. He was watching the continuing continuing news coverage of missing Merita during his morning workout when they started giving the description on the person of interest Myers really parked up. I think I just turned white. It one point. I felt the blood. Leave my face Taber. The businessman thought this has got to be Gary Hilton. Hilton was a guy who'd worked on and off for him for for years. I as a telemarketer then as an independent contractor in deciding business he even lived for a while and this little house that taper on. What was the thought? That was taking shape as you're listening to this. The first thing that really got my passion is is where the event happened where she wanted missing blood mountain. I knew that was a place. He liked to hang out that he had a dog with him and most importantly was the evidence that they had found the same Hilton. Always had expendable police Baton with him the tip and and a name quickly led to a Georgia driver's license for sixty one year old. Gary Michael Hilton. Investigators showed the photo to hikers. Who idead him as the scruffy mystery? Man Seen with meredith on blood mouth. The manhunt was on. We put that name and face out and that's plastered all over the Metro Atlanta area is the AP be went well beyond the Georgia border. Hilton's name and picture were all over the regional news. lightbulbs began going off to the south around Tallahassee Florida's capital when people there so his photo on TV the search for Gary Hilton was about to widen the mystery. Man Person of interest in the Meredith Emerson case looked familiar to people who thought they'd seen him just about the time they learned of the sad case of another woman who'd gone missing Shirl dunlap unearth and mother. WHEN CHERYL DIDN'T TURN UP FOR CHURCH ONE December Sunday in two thousand seven and then Mr Sunday school class red flags went up and next door neighbor and friend? Tanya Land Sunday morning at Church. I'd turned around and looked at her usual spot. She wasn't there and you didn't teach your class and immediately. We knew something was wrong. Because that's just not like her. Everyone who knew her agreed. Forty six year old Cheryl was reliable. A woman solid interfaith breath and set fellow nurse friend and prayer partner again. She always liked to hear What we call our praise reports like like something good that happened with a patient or a CO worker? When Monday morning rolled around in Tanya still hadn't been able to reach Cheryl? She walked next door. That went back down to our house and saw that the dog was at the House but the car was gone so I called her off several times and they hadn't seen her shoes daughter-in-law Tabitha called the sheriff's Office to report. Port Missing Wellingtonians. Such show for work. I knew there was a problem after that missing. Persons report was filed. The friends heard about a car. That looked like Cheryl's roles spotted on the side of the highway leading into Tallahassee. They headed up there a sheriff's car on and immediately they said deputy up there and just took over from that point apprehensive. Rancid you out. Yeah I was very uneasy. I knew that there was something wrong. Juries car was parked well off the highway. Florida Department of law enforcement agent. Any what it was pretty clear from the beginning that that's not someplace that she would parked it as well as the tire looked like it had been purposely flattened on the vehicle Michael and abandoned Kara slash tire searches law enforcement. Volunteers began fanning out into the adjacent fifty. Seven seven thousand Acre Appalachia Coal National Forest. All of them with dread in their hearts love will be devastated. If something like this happened to my family and so that's why I want to be up here for in. There were massive searches in town. Thousands of people showed up to comb the woods looking for her. It was clear very early on that. This was unusual for her. She would not have gotten in the car with someone who just was not the person who would have disappeared. Tallahassee Democrat senior writer. Jennifer Portman covered the story. We're talking about North Florida. In the panhandle area. People are found by their schools by their family by their churches and Sunday. School teachers with children and Grandchild. Don't go miss. That's exactly what her friends and family were as baffled as the police by Cheryl's disappearance law enforcement was trying to put the pieces together when they looked into Cheryl's background around nothing jumped out at two sons long-settled divorce no boyfriends then on Tuesday. Four days after she was last seen the cops got her bank records. Something was up. We found where some ATM activity had occurred in Leon County. That's big break. Yes Sir and then upon viewing in that video in Leon County It was clear it was not her. This was a male subject using her car. Use disguising his face so we knew at that point definitely that it's probably not going to be a good outcome from stunned. The disguised man made three separate withdrawals of seven hundred dollars. The ATM tap was was in downtown. Tallahassee near the campus of the State Youth Miles from where Cheryl's car was found so you and the team stakeout the ATM machine stay there. Several days is day and night watching the ATM and he never came back to that one. The search for Cheryl stretched on for weeks and a lot of us went out on our own and searched the woods and went to places. We thought you know she could possibly be the more time goes on inevitably. I just just. It's just because I'm thinking if she's still alive and someone has her she's afraid. Mid December two weeks after Cheryl disappeared some some hunters out training. Their dogs in the National Forest noticed a vulture circling in the sky above them went to check it out and discover the body a female email body missing its head in hands a grizzly fact not released at the time. I think this is someone trying to conceal the identity. It took a DNA sample from Her to th- brush to identify the remains. As those of Cheryl Dounreay someone called and said Laura. They found the body. We pulled with over on the side of the road. And just you know just there was it be wearing this was there. It was surreal You know the thing you hear about movies and it was so close to home that in our small community that something like this could happen now with cops in Florida looking hard at Gerry Hilton in the Dunlap murder and counterparts Georgia convinced that he'd taken Meredith Emerson Authority started hearing about yet another national forest homicide this one in North Carolina. Then you gotta be saying all your team investigators. What do we have you? That's right and so now. We're we're really wondering who who we have here and more importantly which made it coming up. We have a killer running around loose in the national national forest concern for Meredith deepens but her friends know something that man on the mountain. Couldn't Kato and Blue Belt in judo. The Dow if anybody could survive it was her death when dateline continues and we're was merit hope Emerson. Could she still be alive. Somewhere out there in Georgia's Chattahoochee National Channel Four's and did the twenty four year. Old hiker have a prayer if she were indeed in the clutches of mystery man. Gary help the search on blood mountain went into into a third day. We had the hope. I mean we were there from Sunup to sundown. Plus I mean we were there through the night in the cold and all the searchers and but if anybody could survive Evan Meredith and if anybody could fight somebody like that it was meredith. Merida's parents had flown in from Colorado joined. The searchers Peggy. Bailey a family. A friend was their spokeswoman. Let me tell you something. Meredith Emerson could do anything. She is feisty she is strong she's tiny and petite one hundred twenty pounds. But let me tell you. I have every hope that anybody could. She can run those mountains. She she's a strong person. If anybody can survive this she can. The missing woman was deceptively strong. Not just an experienced hiker but an accomplished martial arts enthusiast as well and Lavelle an Akito and blue belt in judo on apparel absolutely I mean she would fight you and chewed actually come home and tell me you know I threw this two hundred and twenty pound man man. I beat him up today in class by now with half of Georgia looking for this Gary Hilton authorities outside Tallahassee Florida to the south. We're we're wondering about his connections with the missing woman there. It was then at the detective. Scott solid information about another killing in a national forest. We're in our command post and detective walked in and said that They had a case took place in North Carolina Bobbing Husband and wife that the the wife had been been murdered in the Pisgah national forest. That detective was working an unsolved case. That had cops in North Carolina bewildered. David Mahoney is sheriff. Europe Transylvania County beautiful place with an ominous name that has nothing to do with fangs. Dripping blood we have wonderful attractions here. All those things along with a slower pace of life is what brings folks and keeps folks here folks like John and Irene. Brian do after raising a family retired here far from the brutal maybe winters of upstate. New York and close to the hiking trails they loved Holly. Bryant is the youngest of their four children. They love the outdoors when when they were first married. I used to go out hiking in the mountains. They would take us hiking and as they got older it take the grandchildren not hike into the. Bryant's had a lifetime of outdoors. Experience had hiked all over the world. My father completed the Appalachian trail. Oh which is two thousand miles from Georgia to Maine. They traveled extensively to a New Zealand and author here up author America America especially the southwestern and northwestern United States in late October. Two months before Meredith Emerson disappeared the couple set off on a day. A hike in the five hundred thousand Acre Pisgah National Forest. No one heard from them for two weeks. Always let us know if they were going on one of their many trips etfs so I was totally unlike them to just disappear their son. Bob Flew in from Texas. The newspapers were around the doorstep. He broke into the home And and founder breakfast was still out on the table but obviously many days old and he knew something was terribly wrong. My brother searched. He went up and down every little back road throughout the park. He found their car at a trail head in the national forest. By then Sheriff Mahoney's office was involved. Rescue squad began a search assuming that there had been some medical problem problem or something that had followed an opponent in my heart. I I knew that wasn't the case they there's just no way they would both be both be hurt like that. They were very very experienced. Fortunately it was not very long. After we began service that we discovered the body of Ms Brown was a sense of finality. I knew she was gone already. But that little glimmer particle hope was extinguished English when they found her body Irene. Bryant's remains were located thirty yards from where her son had come upon the car. She had been bludgeoned to death. But where was the husband. We began an even more extensive search for Mister Bri- that surge really involve the entire area of his national forest within hours of discovering Irene. Bryant's body detectives learn three hundred dollars had been withdrawn from the Brian Accounts using an ATM card in Ducks Town. Amount Tennessee had a picture from the machine. The man they had concealed his head and face that was able to successfully use the bronze ATM. Whoever was making the withdrawal it wasn't seventy nine year old John Bryant but time and geography were working against the law man? We spent weeks weeks everywhere in that entire area. We did everything from vehicle patrol ATV patrol horseback on foot everywhere Sir John Bryant had seemingly vanished from the face of the Earth the FBI posted a ten thousand dollar reward for Information Buck. The Bryant case went cold and until Meredith Emerson loomed on the LAUMAN's rate on our late investigator began following that case and immediately there were some mm-hmm similarities that we saw between the two cases. Both of these incidents occurred own for service land. We really felt like that. The two were you probably can make. We may go years without a homicide. This was very very different. Do we have a killer running around loose in the national forest in Georgia. The searchers looking for Meredith Emerson and her dog L.. On what mountain were hoping and praying that they weren't dealing with homicide do everything we can do to make. Sure that She saw if she's up there that we get out of there and get her out of there safely If he's not there to do everything we can do to eliminate that as okay Possibility and then continuing investigation in their Georgia authorities were composites. A profile of Gary Hilton was starting to look like a person of interest. Not only in the Meredith Emerson disappearance case but in at least two unsolved murders in the national forests. Their findings were deeply trump coming. It might a movie hold the key to this case. Prince movie is going to take some women into the woods and then put they're going to be hunted down. It's Gary Very involved in the scary. Throughout on blood mountain there was still no trace of meredith emerson her friend Julia. And the searchers found no news to be good news. It might be a good thing that you know. She might be somewhere warm their dog you know and and somebody might just have her or or something like that kind of makes me feel a little better Knowing that that we haven't found anything here yet well. Hundreds of volunteers and deputies deputies scoured the forest for clues. Detectives were trying to get a handle on Gary Hilton the suspect in her disappearance and who was by now L. A. person of interest in at least two murders John Taber Hilton's former boss gave investigators. What background he had on? His Eccentric Loner Employees I had known him for nearly a decade. The only interest that he had in life seemed to be his dog and going out camping with his dog. UGH for extended periods of time and in the Wilderness. Hilton's Dog Dandy had been at aside since he started working for Taylor. The former boss had come to regard Hilton. As a hair trigger triggered nutcase. He often tells stories of going to parks with his dog and he would end up in altercations with other pet owners. It was always the same story. He reprimand the other dog owners behavior. Then the other dog owner would get angry at him verbally or physically assault him so he was always the victim for the First Nine Years Hilton worked Eh citing business taper called him as a good employee then something seemed to snap. Things started to change quite dramatically starting in two thousand and seven and what happened that he just wasn't doing any work decided to go and just see what was going on over there. It was a very bizarre same house on his physical appearance. was quite different immediately smiled to show that he was missing several teeth and he went on to explain that he had actually taken a pair of pliers and removed some some of his teeth and he said he enjoyed doing that. Because it frightened people taber fired Hilton. Who then turned around and claim Taber owed him money by mid summer summer? Two thousand seven the citing guy said he feared for his safety finally threatened to kill me he made it tomato very clear. Jaber took those threats series. I immediately immediately are myself with the Glock nine millimeter and then a are fifteen. Assault rifle started driving rental car. So he wouldn't know what vehicle I was. He was your boogeyman absolutely. It was a terrifying ordeal not to know what was going to happen to point driveway. And have someone jump out of the bushes and maybe assassination win. The former boss finally went to the police with his story. It seemed to do the trick within a day or two. He had packed up all his belongings and moved on but all the stuff in the van into yes. John Table was relieved to see the Hilton in his rear view mirror but he was nonetheless puzzled by the change. That had come over the man around someone for nearly ten years and it's full there. There's there's nothing that ever happens. This suggests a demonic violent personality that that apparently materialize. Somehow Taber had hard hard to the Gary Hilton Picture veteran Atlanta criminal defense lawyer added more. Sam Rail had defended Hilton years back on some minor. Ish beefs wait. Did the jury trial on a drug case possession. He was accused on a misdemeanor of acting like A charity and he really wasn't a charity eight and he raise money to help the little children. Of course he pocketed it the job to speak of or anything that he did professionally. His job was Scamming gaming that's what he did. Mostly you knew him as conman basically right he was a little con when he got tripped up. Go call on you. He did real. The lawyer. Royer wears two hats. He's also a movie producer. Not Hollywood but more of the released direct to video school. This is his latest released. They don't do shooting gory. What's genre try not to make it? Gory but at the end of the day A little blood little sex little Little violence can't hurt as it turned out. COPS on the Meredith Emerson case were particularly interested in rails first movie deadly raw. He made it back in. Nineteen eighty-five the assistance of his scam. Artists Client Gary Hilton. Trump's the movie is That we're GONNA take some women into the woods. Then we're going to befriend those women and then put big can be hunted down. Is Gary involved in this sense of like a script writer. Anything that formal Gary Is. He's helping me throughout and then helping the star figure out how to be a serial killer. These ideas you guys are not going around. Gary has a dark dark side sometimes here and there he wants to get involved in the movie but he wants to make darker and more horrible meet like to have more blood more Gore have rape have have more killings things like that. I thought we toned it down and made a better movie. He suggested that we do it up. Woods it helped me find some of the locations. We found the cabin. That cabin used in the movie happened to be in the chattahoochee national forest. They just north of where Meredith Emerson went missing. He's around the table. Are you guys collaborate on this film house he behaving around Your Your Group of movie when the movie was being made. He's animated but interesting so he's not a loner. No He's a lunar. He's a psychopath. He say sociopath path he's always trying to get one step ahead of the law. He's always doing something a little bit wrong but all my clients they do that too. It sounds like you're talking about kind of a charming guy. He was charming. He was personable. He was a fellow that you'd WanNa meet which are all skills you need to be a successful con. Oh man if you're gonNA keep an edge but the lawyer in movie producer had a falling out with Hilton over of all things. Ah Dog dog seemed to be important to them. Dogs were very important to him. He wound up with my dog but I had Dog Look Nice little golden retriever. We had them in the backyard. All all of a sudden I come back one day. The dog has gone. Of course. I'm very upset about it. Then I find out that Gary took the dog you still as their profile of Hilton became clear and became more trouble. Investigators looking for him and Meredith. Were desperate for any lead on his whereabouts and they were about to get eh. I answer my cell phone and I heard his voice. Didn't believe it coming. A trap is set to lure Gary Hilton from the hiding spot. Trying to play a cold and a dramatic new league could lead police to meredith. She could be alive alive and we just can't let when dateline continues Police were convinced. The missing hiker Meredith Emerson was under the control of Gary Hilton. Somewhere in north Georgia. The more they learn about the survivalist oddball who was a person of interest in two murders national forests elsewhere. The more they feared for her. Uh a friend of Meredith family appealed directly to Hilton have that he realized that this would be helpful that this that his heart would be softened pendant turned to To come in for with information so please please have the courage to come forward. We we need you there next. Delete the big one came from an unlikely source. The suspect himself three days into meredith disappearance. Gary Hilton called his old boss. Taber I answer from my cell phone and I heard his voice couldn't believe it he pretended enacted as though nothing was wrong. So he didn't let on to you that he was the subject of a man. Oh absolutely not tape acted as though he knew nothing about it which apparently was the case. He apparently had no idea startled. But Thinking Fast Taber tried to Lure Hilton to an agreed upon location with the promise of money was trying to play cool so I didn't know anything about what was going on. I told him that I would give him a check for eight hundred dollars and we discussed place to leave the check. Were you at that place that he knew to come and show up and it was throwing my objective to get him to a place where authorities could apprehend him. The trap was set a building owned by Taber where Hilton had lived for awhile. The SWAT team was dispatched. What Hilton Fall for the pickup? Some money reuss and what about out the missing woman in your gut did you. Meredith was still alive. You know may snared hope Emerson and we all hoped that She was alive life. Has the manhunt continued. There was a glimmer of hope Friday morning. Four days after meredith vanished the US. Marshals Service traced activity city on Merit as bank cards. The card was used at a local bank fifteen miles from the abduction side and then again fifty miles south of the abduction abduction site. And then the next day eighty miles. These were attempts where no money was taken which suggests what suggested that wouldn't give them the right pen which also suggest S.. Maybe she's still alive that's right investigators. Meanwhile had been able to trace the phone. Gary Hilton used earlier to call his old boss. John Taber who'd set a trapper him. That call was made from a restaurant about fifty miles from Blood Mountain Hilton. It seemed was moving south towards Atlanta metropcs. PD Swat conceal themselves in a near Tabor's building. That was the drop point. Were old boss had promised Tilton he'd leave him. Eight hundred dollars stake at the location. You're surveilling it and they didn't show no show no show we're still looking and wondering where this guy but now we have fifty miles from blood mountain. The tip line line kept ringing with Leeds. Good and back then four days in a Friday afternoon a shopper called to say that she found a black lab mix wandering around a supermarket supermarket. Parking lot is surprised to see any dogs running loose in the parking lot and then to find out that it's the one that meredith Was was turned on. This has pretty big surprise in the shot. She took the dog to an animal clinic where the vet was able to read and identity chip implanted. Inner sure enough off it was ellen but where was her own merit now. Events were moving quickly right away. Came another tip or we get a call from a female acquaintance Long Hilton stating that. She just hung up the phone. He called her and Money and she commented that she said. Don't you know the world's looking for you any any hung up Hilton called from a payphone at a convenience store near where meredith dog had turned up. You have a living pet missing owner handphone which is somewhere in the vicinity of this. Yes guy you believe Israel while the agents are searching in an area that convenience store they look in the dumpster and and it was in the dumpster we found Mayor de identification or purse bags of bloody clothing. And at that point we felt liked it this this was not going to turn out his widow then around eight. That nine still Friday not far from where Taber had set the trap for Hilton more than one. eagle-eyed citizen noticed a man emptying a white van. Happy up here here. Here's a white van. Rodolphe wandering around coals lit up nine one one. This one lasted for twelve minutes back. I had the person of interest in missing woman case. Is that this Chevron Gasping on Nascar done manage their van is here her dog dog and I saw the man's face and I've been watching the news and I know I'm being all this stuff other than getting around. Like he is guilty of I take him down if you aren't there right there. Also copped the back of the got him now here careers. Gary Hilton was under arrest. Detective swarmed over the Filthy Astro van Dan and inventoried his possessions looking for any clue to Merida's fate. GB spokesman updated the media. It's a missing person's investigation right now and that's how we're pursuing it Imported key might be Any knowledge that Mr Hilton has take me inside your situation room when you get the news. Atlanta's got him. We're very pleased with the fact that now we have this man But we we can't lose sight of the fact we don't have meredith yet and and the possibility that she she it could be alive and we can't let up and so we attempt to interview him. He refuses to take your questions cops had. They're mad but not meredith. Could they crack him get from him. The story of what had happened in the national forest. ooh and your decades a law enforcement agent if you ever had a session of interviews like this one he was very straightforward and was very nonchalant Saturday morning. Five days after Meredith Emerson vanished on Blood Mountain. Gary Hilton was charged with a crime against her kidnapping with bodily injury. Hilton soon was in custody. But he was uncooperative. SIPTAH giving his interrogators nothing on Meredith whereabouts. And what he'd done with neared its middle name is is hope. And that's exactly what the Lord gives us for her so we are hoping that we're talking meredith in the present tense and that we will. We'll be finding her and that she will say come home to us. The searchers in the field meanwhile shifted their focus from blood mountain to these woods. Called Dawson forks. About thirty minds to the south it was from around here that milkmaid made those phone calls to his ex-boss remember by then Merida's bloody clothing had been retrieved from a dumpster. It's not a good sign at all. But as long as there was the most remote chance that she was still alive. The search was going to continue but lead agent. John Caygill new. These vast woodland's very very well and he knew the odds of finding needles and haystacks as he saw it he had only one option repugnant as it was and that was to cut a deal with Gary Hilton Sunday morning we got him a lawyer and how went up and had a had a talk with her lawyer and essentially laid out our case. Hilton's lawyer then then conferred with his client. The district attorney was brought into the loop ended. Deal went down. Hilton would plead guilty to murder. Because that is what it had been. And then he said he'd lead investigators to Meredith's body in exchange for taking the death penalty off the tape. Nobody in law enforcement likes to make deals without holding their her nose. We had to do it and you know we. We needed to find meredith And given the circumstances I would do the same thing now. Now some guessing agent the situation in your interview room is Gary. You told us what you did to her. Now where'd you put her yes and He told us a manacles. Hilton was loaded into vehicle and he led lawmen down a trail in Dawson forest. Down there on the road that I will be approximately forty yards or a hundred twenty covered by leaves and brush ahead. We'll be missing. Where's the only reason? By the way was renewed Morenz equally clearly shaken agent. Cable told hold it Lanta about the tragic outcome at approximately seven thirty this evening. The body of Meredith Emerson was discovered wooded area the specific information and given as to the location of the body was given to me by Gary. Hilton the kidnapping charge was antidote. Mitch Hilton is being charged. Wouldn't count murder of Meredith Emerson. He has been taken into custody and brought to our attention center where he's being held in your decades a law enforcement agent if you ever had a session of interviews like this one no no. He was very straightforward and was very nonchalant about the whole time. So you get avenue point. Were well like Meredith. I forty dollars mine and kill a lion and after his initial confession Gary Hilton. The man of stony silence became a chatterbox spilling out a story. That it's sicken detectives who thought they'd heard everything. He began with Meredith abduction here on a hiking trail on blood mountain. He said that he ambush meredith and her dog gala. She came down the trail. It was a struggle and meredith with her martial arts skills. Hilton tells it very nearly got the better of him twice. She disarmed him first taking away a knife and then his police baton control above though not into that he's real good with their hands and had no hesitation about Ryan with everything and we had and Hilton said they scrap so hard. They tumbled off the trail separated by a few yards from that drop police baton Merida's water bottles dog's leash objects importantly very soon to be recovered. Meredith meanwhile meanwhile kept right on Hilton and again and her got me I've been back into the crashing Just a few minutes. I would be people that now that I would have picked it up. You talked about fighting with meredith that she almost took him. I don't really believe everything. And he says but that part I believe. There's no doubt that she fought and and you know. Maybe it's a little bit that kind of gives you a little smirk to know that you know she almost. She almost got him. She gave him a run for his money. And I'm sure that he may have thought I should have maybe chosen somebody else else eventually. Hilton War Meredith down by then they were way off. The main trail Hilton tied his captive to a tree and then double back to that site site where he'd been stripped of his weapons. The bayonet was gone lost on the forest floor and a hiker had already picked up the police Baton Hilton returned to meredith pill and now skirting. The main trail Hilton led meredith back to his van a trail head parking there. He secured her with chains in the back of his vehicle and then proceeded to steal her bankcards from beneath the front seat of her car. Hilton drove off heading gold miles north to an ATM in Blair's Ville Georgia. He told Detectives Meredith had given him or pin numbers. Back on Black Mountain. Did Meredith suspect. It would be all over for her if she gave him the correct numbers in any case she'd given him that information and more. She's you still follow me. It'll be welfare. Hilton next. Tried to use MARANISS cards at a bank fifty fifty miles south in Gainesville Georgia again. No dice he made camp that night with his captive in a remote spot in the forest. The next morning Hilton attempted to use Merida's Bankcard still again at an ATM. In canton Georgia nothing. They returned to his hidden campsite. He held meredith all together in the woods for four days. And what nature of Man. Is Gary Hilton. Well listen to the confession tapes to what he says about Merida's dog Ella. Hilden says he knew. The PAT had that identifying chip when he let the dog go in the supermarket parking lot. If I want to ensure that no one would associate the a dog with her. I would have killed the doll. But there's no way I can do that. He was too much of a softie that. Kill the dog as he explained it. But poor. Meredith Ellis owner never never had a chance beginning. Yes you dodged told you. Once you've done it you gotta kill her get call. Then there's no the solution and that now. He was in his unbelievably cold. Recollection of the crime. Hilton said he told Meredith. He was going to let her go after four days of captivity wig packing up and down taking her Releaser Instead Hilton. Went to the van came back with a tire iron and bludgeoned into Meredith Emerson to death in an attempt to thwart investigators. He decapitated and poured bleach over the body. This gruesome beyond belief. We've Yes for what reason I don't know Hilton had confessed to killing Meredith Emerson. But what about those other cases in the national forests a woman in in Florida the elderly couple in North Carolina. He would not talk about anybody to us because you have to wonder when the switch was thrown because man oh I know how many decades does this go back. I don't know do people just wake up. When they're sixty one is starting to do these kinds of crimes? The way he did you know I would think not coming up how a terrifying movie fantasy morphed into real light do you think that's the template what he does decades later. That's what's so chilling dateline continues. Willie geist here this week. On the Sunday sit down. PODCAST I sit down with rapper. Actress Comedian Aquafina to talk about her huge year with roles in crazy rich Asians and oceans. Ocean's eight get the podcast now for free wherever you download yours continuing with our story meredith. Amerson went for a hike with her dog. On Blood Mountain in the chattahoochee national national forest then suddenly vanished just browse. We became concerned that possibly struggle took place days later a survivalist named aimed Gary Hilton confessed to her murder. He talks about fighting with meredith that she almost took him shallow Scott Him. She gave him a run for his money. Investigators investigators fear. There are more victims. Could this old movie hold the key. To these. Other cases there scenes were reenacted. Their staff talk a lot of similarities. That's what's so chilling here again. Is Dennis Murphy. Marriage Emerson went missing New Year's Day less less than a month later Gary Michael Hilton appeared in a Georgia courtroom and pleaded guilty to her murder. Merida's parents were there for mother. Susan Addressed Hilton. Believe he has nothing more than a bully. And a weak minded coward prey on others fancies himself or survivalist. Well anyone can see experimental man on the run. The state honored the deal. It made with the killer no death penalty and he was sentenced to life in prison. Hilton admitted nothing beyond beyond the Emerson murder. First Time anything like this alert nine turning answering by now investigators from a half dozen southeastern states beats as well as FBI profile owners were rummaging through Hilton's passed by the time he was captured he wasn't much more than vagrant and a van but his past was more complex complex as an army veteran. Hilton at earned an associate's college degree gotten a private pilot's license on the GI bill and been married three times before the wheels apparently came off true crime author. Fred Rosen has written more than twenty five books including trails of about. Hilt underestimate him foolish. This is a very dangerous. Purcell according to Rosen. He was shaped by a number of factors Hilton. Who never knew his is biological? Father was raised by his mother and stepfather. A Horse trainer from Argentina. Do Juvenile authorities run into young Gary Hilton along the way when Gary is fourteen years old he takes a gun and he shoots his stepfather. He doesn't kill him but he wounded wounded very severely and he's institutionalized. They put him in a mental hospital out in Miami Hilton went to High School in Hialeah Florida late in a rock band and eventually joined. The Army Akaki Hill made sure that the cops who arrested him knew of his army service back in the sixties with a unit armed with tactical nuclear weapons. I had not handled nine and Hilton Brag to the officers about his conman criminal past anyway in my life except for the US. Army okay. On Wall Terry from seventy three ninety three okay for twenty years. He's collecting money for charities scam artist. He's a scam artist. Exactly and what about Hilton's dip into the movie business that semi slasher flick deadly run that he helped make in the nineteen eighty s in this where he's setting women out in the woods and killing him hunting. If you like your little outfit I picked up for your Barbara. It has definitely you. Do you think that's the template for what he does decades later. Yes I do. And that's what's so chilling to me about the the whole thing because in the millennium he'll make he'll make art into reality. You can hear the echoes of this. You're already beginning to see the lack of conscience. It's in his interview with the Georgia. Bureau of Investigation. Hilton put forth a grandiose sense of himself a renaissance man of many hats on builder and minority. Hours my heart is my lie and my art. If we're these kind of a philosopher lawsuit king isn't he. I'm an artist and you poor dumb cops don't have the luxury of being able to think the big cosmic thoughts that I do. He almost feel sorry for them. That they can't keep keep up with him when he starts going about this. That and the other thing hoping for crumbs of clues in those other open cases murders in the national forests the agents. I wanted to keep Hilton talking where you where did all of these days. I know what you're getting out of the unsolved murders. Gary Hilton. Thinks he's smart. He Gary has an I q of One hundred twenty and that's considered to be way above average or even though they mainly eligible origin. Is that I alone up. Donald anyone including you do have to actually started. He'll rattle on as long to someone. Listen to him on any topic under the Sun. Virtually yes pick a topic any topic. How about vulcanology a donkey? No the superbowl kaneohe under yellow. Seventy people volcano when eruption basically wind it become the the Holy See more of the US under several bash and destroy the air. The fast talking Flimflam man was on display display. Hilton's home videos found in his band. Here's Hilton giving a cop. That stopped him some live. You tell me what you're the law man. You are the law. I'm going to check it out and if that ain't the law and you're wrong I'm not talking to nobody. I'm falling and I'm suing because you're interrupting my work. You hear Gary Bragging about how smart Mardi is how well He. He does his job but at the same time. What you hear is an incredible narcissistic personality? Which is typical of serial killers killers? He sets up the camera. And there's Gary going hundred seventy-one pounds starts pumping up his biceps. Like he's Arnold Schwarzenegger. I mean he's very narcissistic. So why word. Detectives Enduring Hilton self-centered ramblings clearly. They were hoping he'd blurred out something about his involvement in the other unsolved cases in the national forests but Hilton was admitting to nothing. You basically telling me that you know Twain Nine Ninety he escaped the death penalty in Georgia. But despite his denials Al's Hilton remains the prime suspect in the murder of that elderly couple Irene and John Bryant. Mr Brian's remains had been found in January in the North Carolina align forest as a result of the investigation in Georgia. I was absolutely convinced at that. Point that Gary Hilton was our suspect but there was another open homicide case that seemed to fit Gary Hilton. Like a custom made suit down in Florida. The body of Cheryl Dunlap had been found in a national forest her. ATM card stole the remains decapitating. Detectives thought that Fit Hilton's M. O.. Two T and Gary Hill still applying. The smartest kid in the class defied Florida to come after all that time. All that money they spend A million dollars uncleaner independent there may and then Then another two million get there and then another eight million to the death penalty and get around and get around to executing seventeen years from now when a seventy eight years old decrepit anything. They too tough Laura. Prosecutors at turned out would be the match of his defiant Tong. My belief is this is an evil bad person in there ought to be a consequence in life to evil acts. Coming up justice for Cheryl the hunt for evidence begins. She took the floors up the seats out. She dismantled that Van Suspected serial killer Gary Helton had already pleaded guilty to the murder of Meredith Emerson in the Georgia mountains but he cheated the executioner there with a plea deal that that led police to his victim's body to the south authorities in Florida were convinced he had murdered. Nurse and mother Cheryl Dunlap who's partial remains have been recovered. Two weeks before Meredith Emerson went missing Hilton was defying the authorities in Florida to make charges stick. been a million dollars. The man then Then another billion to get death Leon County Florida. State's attorney Willie megs had had heard enough and indicted Hilton for the murder of Cheryl dunlap. Willie he's gone away for life he's going to be leaving Georgia corrections in a pine box. Why does Florida even need to to go to the expense of a capital murder trial? My belief is is. This is an evil bad person and there ought to be a consequence in alive to evil acts. I don't think murderers ought to be cheaper. The more you do with the Dunlap case looking like a carbon copy of the Meredith Emerson Murder Order you might think the case would be Gimme for the prosecutors. But far from it they would not be allowed to introduce Hilton conviction in the Emerson murder despite its similarity Cheryl's nor his connection with horror movie deadly run or the fact that he was the prime suspect in the murders of two elderly hikers in North Carolina. Florida Florida Department of Law Enforcement Special Agent. Any White was part of the team charged with making the case months earlier the cops had developed a partial chronology for Cheryl dunlap dunlap. While the Saturday she back we started receiving calls. People saying we saw our Walmart we seller here. And so we started backtrack those just trying to get the time on. The investigators knew that Cheryl's morning had included some shopping in Tallahassee cashing a check at the bank and using a library computer to send some e mail to her son in the army they even had a last site. Witnesses identified Cheryl as the woman peacefully reading book here at a Popular Spot called Leon sinks in in the national forest the couple that I interviewed that saw her there at the sink. Holes was very adamant that that was her but the trial had gone cold at the Tallahassee the ATM or a disguised man had withdrawn money using Dunlop's bankcards. A month after Cheryl went the be on the lookout for Gary Hilton during the Meredith Emerson. Listen investigation had the phones in Florida lighting up again when he started hitting the news media are citizens here started seeing him and immediately recognized him and started calling and that tip line Catholic one caller remembered an odd guy with a handsome red dawn. That site led investigators go down another national forest path and to another discovering more remains positive. It was Mr Hilton described. The Dog The van and So that was one of the camps where the bones were found deep in the national forest. Five miles from where Cheryl dunlap's torso had been and found. Investigators came upon a charred piece of skull the Bony Fragments of human hand in the ashes of a campfire. They were badly burned camp firepit kind of thing he'd actually done a pretty good job of covering it up as well. It covered it with strong measures to to tidy trax. The fire had. I've been so thorough. It was impossible to extract DNA from the bones. Whoever killed Cheryl Dunlop had gone to extraordinary lengths to eliminate any physical evidence? So you think that this is someone trying to conceal the identity chills must have gone up your spine when you heard the details of what had happened to yes meredith. And how closely match Cheryl yes. Yes sir both taken out of the woods abducted her. Both decapitated assist. You know early similar. There was one thing about tracking the guy with the red dog that they had going doing for them. States assistant prosecutor Georgia Koppelman. Fortunately for the investigation. If somebody saw Gary Michael Hilton they remembered him. He's Scott that kind of a face or presence that you don't forget once we had the description. We had tons of witnesses coming forward while doing the legwork that was turning up more witnesses says putting Hilton in the area aging white screened deadly run the horror thriller about tracking down and killing women. The forest that Gary Hilton had worked on years before there are scenes that you see in the movie that were reenacted in his actual spree of crimes not in every detail but there's definitely a lot of similarities and investigators has had those home videos of Hilton to screen as well last time he was gone he that was out here. I don't think here. Let's followed you now. Watching the videos was very Educational because I saw him by himself. I saw him with other people. People like this restaurant manager suffering a ramp from Hilton about his delivery Uber. Drivers you tell these guys with terror driving. Has He received any driving safety education. I saw him With law enforcement in many different sides leaving I'm getting Outta here. God Almighty thought he was the smartest bear in the woods. Definitely smarter than the officers. Apprehending definitely definitely they now had numerous Hilton sightings around where Cheryl dunlap vanished but despite all the investigative work by multiple sheriff's offices and the FDLE. No witness came forward to put him together with Gerald on the nurses remains were in such poor condition they told investigators nothing about how how she died. But the thousands of other pieces in the puzzle. Investigators were trying to song. Hilton's Van Jammed to the roof. With hundreds of items was trucked worked the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Crime Lab our crime scene analyst spent day and night literally weeks a mess. Right she she lived in that van for weeks. She dismantled that van. Every item that was in it was taken out And then the van itself was dismantled. She took the floors up the the headline or out the seats out every scrap of paper every piece of hair. All that evidence from the van was added to items recovered from the dumpster route side Atlanta where Hilton had been captured. A Georgia cop on blood mountain with a metal detector had found the Bayonet Meredith Emerson had wrestled away from Gary Hilton now. Now investigators in Florida theory. What was interesting about that? Knife is before we knew of Mr Hilton before he had killed Miss Emerson and been quite our analysts in our lab showed us. This is the style this what the knife is GonNa look on cameras and memory cards were found inside the van the techie detectives in the FDLE computer lab working overtime trying to unscramble deleted material from the evidence and deepen in their DNA lab more than seven hundred samples. Were being analysed in an attempt to find some link between Gary Hilton. And the late Cheryl Dunlap had Gary Hilton can manage to outsmart them all wood floor to be able to make the case against four years after Cheryl dunlap's death it was finally going to try coming up sweaty and your heart. Speeding dramatic case begins. How would it? You can just see the jurors so there is a new. When Dateline Continues Gary Hilton's trial for the Florida Murderer Cheryl dunlap began in February? Two thousand eleven a little more than four. We're years after he pleaded and skated the death penalty in Georgia. But there was no chance of a plea deal in this tallahassee. He might be doing life in Georgia but this. This was a capital murder case. If convicted Hilton could die. I- lethal injection remember lead prosecutor Georgia. Koppelman couldn't tell the jury about Hilton's conviction in the Meredith Emerson murder or mentioned it was the prime suspect in North Carolina. Double Homicide Nortel the jury anything about that Slasher laforest movie deadly run. That he helped me MS dunlap found herself in a situation and ultimately came to to an end. That is something that we only think about nightmares. The state built the brick and masonry of story on the time line investigators had so painstakingly painstakingly assembled an attorney hiking with her husband in the national forest. Leon sinks that Saturday morning remembered seeing Cheryl. I looked at her and I said it's peaceful as full out here isn't it and she looked at me and she nodded and she smiled and then she exited warlock then a parade of witnesses testified to seeing Hilton out and about out in the national forest. There was the motorists to notice demand near Cheryl's car with a flat tire. How confident are you that Mr Hilton was the man that you saw at that vehicle? Oh very confident. Others remembered dent man's good looking reddish. retriever mix states. The picture of Hilton's Dog Dandy Exhibit thirty-seven was looking to be the state's key piece of evidence quite sure that's the dog. Another witness recounted a creepy conversation with Hilton country store. And then he said it. Isn't that bad about that. Girl that was murdered an asset. Yes it is he said well you look like her and I said well I don't think so hunters to identified the old guy with the Nice doll ruler flagging his emergency yourself. What the prosecution couldn't tell? The jury was exactly how Cheryl had a county medical examiner had to work with severed remains that had been exposed to the elements. He thought for at least a week or more. Are you able to tell this jury how this woman died died November not a cause of death but what the prosecution did have was forensic evidence Galore hundreds of items recovered from his van from Hilton suspected campsites deep in the woods of two items here duct tape with hair and another piece of duct tape Or masking tape. Prepare one of the items crime scene. Techs recovered was Hilton's video camera. He tried to delete the images on. It are unable to see the entire device. So I'm able to recover those previously as lead files department of law enforcement lab experts had been able to salvage the Audio Hilton did not want the world to hear and with good reason. This is Gary Hilton. Two days after Cheryl dunlap's disappearance singing into the camera microphone and gassing with his dog. Dan Dan mm-hmm when it sounded as though he was confessing to the dog. A hushed courtroom listened to Hilton's is model. The Bar I gotta go the states. Forensic people introduced evidence about Cheryl slash tire a tool mark. Experts said the bayonet recovered on blood mountain up in Georgia was an exact match for the sharp object that caused the puncture down in Florida. But the state say good night evidence was without question the DNA work genetic expert. Joe Ellen Brown spent two years testing more than seven hundred and fifty pieces of evidence in the case Brown told the jury she was able to match Cheryl dunlap's DNA. Hey To blood on two of Hilton sleeping bags and on the shoelaces of his hiking boots. The major donor does match share on the frequency of occurrence. So this major contributor Dini profile is one in twenty nine Quadrille in Cook Asians twenty nine with how many's yours fifteen zeros and with that after six days of testimony the prosecution rested now. The defense holding a very poor hand would have to a fight for Gary Hilton's life it's case was brief. Lead attorney says Super Cold One witness an expert on to mark identification who testified by videotape. Arguing that the bayonet and evidence could not in her opinion be determined to be what had been used to slash victims tire subjective. Yeah it's based on the Individual Examiners training inexperience. He defense was trying to impeach the testimony of the State's expert. Who you said Hilton's bayonet had slash Cheryl dunlap's tire and that was it for the defense? Gary Hilton declined to take the stand. Do you wish to testify one. In sixty three million. In her closing argument the prosecutor reminded the jury of those big number DNA matches. What are the odds that somebody else's DNA is on that sleeping bag? Other than Cheryl dunlap won an eleven trillion Caucasians. I need Subaru's closed for the the defense was far more vigorous than her limited witness list might have suggested we have absolutely no evidence not direct evidence. The Mr Hilton come in murder. The jurors began their deliberations Koppelman and her boss waited for them to return there. You've done a lot of trials. Is this just another day at the office. No no it's never when you're waiting for a verdict or palms are sweaty and your Heart's beaten and you're very nervous Harris and I can tell you I've been doing thirty five years now. It's never gone away from me. There's this It really liked. Throw a while. You're waiting on them to do you until you hear it read. It's it is tents coming up. What would they decide with? The jury found his. This follows the Virgin A. Hey it's Craz you know. Sometimes it's good to just take a step back back from the day to day onslaught of news and take our broader. Look the issues. That's what I'm doing each week on my podcast. Why is this happening? Were exploring topics ranging from school segregation. The climate change. Well the way that I think it is. Climate Change will be to the twenty first century. What modernity west of the nineteenth century it'll be the central subject of questions about economic justice us? 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The same jurors would soon reconvene to decide if Hilton would die by lethal injection. He dodged death and George and now it was time to see if he could do it again. You might think that capital punishment but Florida's active death row would have been a given Gary Hilton but not so says Tallahassee Democrat Democrats senior writer Jennifer Portman and Leon County. We had not even sent anyone to death row in twenty years. So it's not a foregone conclusion that this is going to be hanging jury absolutely absolutely not. We've had our share of horrendous crimes. Don't get me wrong but the jurors here are just very uneasy about sending people to death. Row this man Mr Hilton Assistant. State's attorney Georgia Koppelman got the initial conviction of Hilton. What are the words used to describe this guy? He's a psychopath. And you know there's crazy sick and there's crazy mean he's just crazy mean. He's intelligence a college graduate. He was a member of our armed forces. He's probably smarter than everybody sitting in this room. There were different rules in this. The penalty phase unlike in the trial prosecutors were now now able to disclose to jurors that Hilton murdered Meredith Emerson on Blood Mountain and state's attorney Willie megs did just that calling to the stand Georgia Bureau of Investigation allegation agents. Who'd worked on the Emerson case? You indicated that Ms Nelson Body was nude Did Gary Michael Hilton. Tell you why it was. I knew he did he. He basically stated that he had Removed the head and stripped the clothing for forensic purposes makes was able cool to introduce portions of those chilling interviews. That Hilton gave the authorities in Georgia in pain. You're GONNA kill them. You don't think phase was one of the more interesting parts of the trial. That's where you started getting this information about Emerson Emerson because I I saw Georgia information was allowed into the correct. So that is when you really start seeing the jurors taking in the enormity then you really see the impact of all this coming coming through Robert. Freedman was the defenses lead attorney in the penalty phase. His strategy was to present Hilton as so mentally damaged as to be incapable of responsibility for his actions. Friedman began with a pet scan expert who testified about traumatic brain damage Hilton. It suffered as a ten year old. When Murphy bed accidentally fell on him a nearly scalped him he was taken to Saint Joseph Hospital on campaign given two hundred stitches? And this is an example of Murphy perfect bad and jurors. That's not all the defense's expert continued. Hilton was abused as a child and he lashed out as a teenager. The doctor testified that Hilton was so diluted that he believed he had worked on a movie about killing women in the forest. That of course was a slip up. Hilton had done just that and the defense error opened the door for the prosecution to tell the story about the movie deadly run or would that be delusional. If it's the truth I know a defense neuropsychologist tested Hilton to it. Turns out is as bright as he thinks he is. The wechsler intelligence scale. He scored an overall overall verbal. I Q of One hundred twenty which puts them in the upper ten percent or so of the population another psychiatrist diagnosed him with Schizo affective and antisocial personality disorder compounded by an old fashioned edible complex. We call it an unresolved oedipus complex and a child can grow up with this emptiness inside of them to top it off. The defense continued Hilton was self medicating with prescription drugs. Ritalin and effectual axel basically push you over that line. The defense then treated jurors to Gary Hilton. This is your life a saga of abuse neglect and injury it included an audiotape. Hilton's late mother talking about how as a teenager Hilton had wounded his stepfather and he said Chevy shipping the camera shot in the legs or in the stomach lower part of his junior high girlfriend testified that Gary it wasn't a bad guy back in the day. He was funny and outgoing and smart. The defense rash once the defense rested Willie megs called his rebuttal. Witness a a clinical psychologist to revisit the essential issues the mystery Hilton. Did he know right from wrong. My opinion is that yes. He clearly knew right from wrong and clearly he knew the criminal nature of his conduct in my opinion is that he is a psychopath. And that's that's what generated the murders and nothing else the attorneys. He's made their final appeal to the jurors. I'm going to ask everyone of you individually to go back in that jury room and vote to recommend end the Gary Hilton be put today on behalf of Mr Hilton. I'm asking all of you collectively and individually to recommend a life sentence in this case the jurors then retired to deliberate nothing less than whether Gary Hilton should live or die. Hi coming up another haunting question. Were there more victims out in the forest personally believed there and Dan a legacy. She's really the hero. It was through her efforts that we were able to catch her killer remembering meredith. Hope Amerson When dateline continues the same jurors who found Gary Hilton guilty of murdering Cheryl dunlap? We're now trying to decide if they should recommend Hilton. Spend life keep in prison or be put to death by lethal injection. Their life or death debate lasted an hour and twenty minutes of majority of the jury by a vote of twelve to nothing. Advise recommend to the court as the death penalty on Gary. Michael Hilton Hilton Sat expressionless as the results were read and where two weeks later and equally emotionless Hilton listened as the judge pronounced his sentence. Is that you gary. Michael Hilton contest to death. For the murder Cheryl dunlap Meta God. Have mercy on your soul. Gary Michael Hilton was sent to Florida's death row for the murder of Cheryl dumb three months later he was shackled and transported to western North Carolina and indicted in federal court there for the murders of John and Irene Arena Bryant the government alleged. The serial killer murdered the elderly couple in October of two thousand seven shortly before killing Cheryl Dunlap and Meredith Emerson. James Hilton pleaded not guilty. The forensic team from Florida that helped convict there was all set to testify in the federal trial. And all that evidence stored in the FDLE's basement just across the hall from the Boxes Containing Evidence Against Florida's more infamous serial killer. Ted Bundy was ready to get truck. Milk Hilton was facing another death sentence in the federal trial and David Mahoney. The local. Sheriff was certain jury would provide justice for the. Bryant's we have a good case Tremendous number of man hours spent an investigation tremendous cooperation between all of the local state and federal agencies as it were involved in all three states but a trial wouldn't be necessary in March two thousand Twelve Hilton pleaded guilty to killing John and Irene Bryant and got another another life sentence. Law enforcement officials from across the South East have met with golden on Florida's death row attempting to find out how many more of his victims might be out there. You think there are others. I think they're certainly the potential to be others. I don't know that we'll ever know for sure. And unless he tells us so. Far Hilton is sticking to his store. That and he started hunting as he describes it in October of two thousand seven that there were no murders before them like most of the other officers who've investigated Helton mm-hmm agent. Any white isn't buying. She says they have a lot of work ahead. Is it your belief Anne that there are more out there more victims of Gary Hilton. I personally believe there. Aw He's just been to many places so it just makes me think that there's probably more we're going to continue to look at every case that we can compare profiles and look for evidence the pain and suffering of the families of Hilton's victims and suspected victims dolls but never ends. He's taken so much for me and my family really. What can you say to someone who had murdered two wonderful people for three hundred dollars and Meredith Komo beautiful young lady Cheryl Dunlop and and very possibly many more. The man is not even what I think of is human. He is something else a true psychopath who needs to be put where he can never harm anyone else again for Shirl Dunlap's friends and family and Florida Hilton's conviction provoked conflicting feelings and I think believe it. No not that Cheryl would want us to forgive and when I went into the courtroom and I actually saw him. My thought was not that They put him to death or so that I was glad he was off the street. But I have to forgive Gary Hilton. I I have to be in the family. It was a death penalty case and the jury recommended the death penalty and that was the sentence. Does it matter to you clearer. Pleased with the outcome. Yes and like Laura said he's off the streets He's not hurt anyone again Yes I think it matters and there are regrets on the part of the officers who investigated the Hilton cases. Could there have been one tip line that come in sooner. Could've been one fragment information we could have put together more quickly and spared her. That hasn't been a day go by since I haven't thought about mad at them or so and what we could've should've done differently but see. She's really the hero she did the best. She could in hopes that we could catch up. It was through her efforts that we were able to catch her killer but also the killer. That was responsible for the killing of Sheldon. You're in Georgia for Meredith Emerson's closest friends. It's time to forget about Gary Hilton and remember her. He took our friend. He took a daughter a sister but he can't take her memory. He can't take the things we love about her away us. The important didn't work to be done. We started an organization in her memory. Julia Karen Bow or Meredith. Emerson's one time roommate. Georgia has founded along with others. Something called old right to hike advocating hiker safety. We didn't want anybody to go through this again. Either to bring awareness of what happened and how it happened and maybe make you think about going hiking by yourself twice. Take a friend you know to to be a little safer. The organization founded by Meredith. Emerson's friends has sponsored offense with a huge turnout of people and dogs. Meredith's dog Ella went to live with her parents in Colorado any event that we ever have for a hike just seen people come and say I never met Meredith but I feel like I know her and I wanted to come out and support and that was the biggest thing the community outreach after everything a happened right to hike aided humane societies educated hikers on safe practices and put Cell Towers on trail heads. One of the big things things that we realized very quickly on these trails that our cell phones didn't work and Meredith. Had Her cell phone with her and that didn't help her ever hike blood mountain. You just might notice a little sticker there as you head out. Remember me and the Meredith Emerson she most of all would like you to enjoy your day in the outdoors. Talk just really enjoyed being out with nature and watching a run through the forest and play with other dogs. I think it was a really peaceful a place for her to be people. Go to these places to relax and get away from everyday life and enjoy the outdoors and then they should continue to do that. These are some of the safest safest places there until the monster shows up. Yeah Gary Hilton has been on death row since April two thousand eleven. His appeals continue. You the average stay on Florida's death row is twelve and a half years. And that's all for this edition of Dateline. We'll see you again next Friday at nine eight central and of course I'll see you each weeknight for N._B._C.. Nightly news I'm Lester Holt for all of us at N._B._C.. News good night.

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Ep 198: Paris Hilton Documentary Deep Dive, Cassie & Colton, Addison Rae, A Kardashian Recap, & More.

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Ep 198: Paris Hilton Documentary Deep Dive, Cassie & Colton, Addison Rae, A Kardashian Recap, & More.

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Hilton is not what really goes on behind the scenes and they had alluded to there being some trauma that she went through. We didn't really know about it. We started here a little bit more about it. I think last week in the previews, but she really got into it and I just want to take you through some of the main points. So They started it with kind of like just a montage of all her different press appearances everyone saying you know you are Paris Hilton. How does that feel to be this icon? And you see this very sharp contrast from the Glitz and Glamour her public life to this much more kind of private. I almost want to say sad internal life that she feels that fair. Yeah. It did come off as very. It was the struggle between saddened grateful that I think a lot of celebrities have but hers was very specific to her yeah and you know we won't go through everything obviously she spoke about how? Just in general, the image that she has portrayed to the world is so different than the one that she has in a lot of that she was using. The simple life is a perfect example like she came on the scene as this quote dumb blonde heiress and she was kind of making a point to say like that was my character that's not even real voice but that is becomes so much of who I am that there was a scene when. She was being filmed. She was driving there was someone in the passenger seat filming her and she said, I'm sorry I sometimes forget how to be me when a camera comes out because I'm so used to putting on this image, which I thought was very interesting to hear someone like her say. Yeah, well, the whole idea of creating persona is actually so gene. Yes. Especially for Paris because a like, obviously a lot of that persona helped her get to the fame and the success that she has because it was just this era's this person that people really didn't know and she was the first person to be famous for being famous. She originated that I think cam really made it what it is, but Paris was the original Paris was the blueprint for that so. With that side of it, the persona. So genius because it helped to elevate her to this other level of fame but also the thing that I really took away from it was the idea of creating a persona. And using that persona to deal with fain was so important to she is because if somebody doesn't like her all the shit, they're throwing out all the things that people say, all the stories about her if that's not who you actually are and you know very consciously that's a persona you're putting on, you can shield yourself like you say like, yeah, they hate me but they don't actually know me they just hate this person they think they know and that is such an easy protection of who you are secure knowing who you are. Yeah No, that's that's kind of a perfect way to put it because she said very clearly after doing a couple of seasons of the simple life she was like I knew that reality television was not what I was destined to do not what I wanted to do, but I couldn't help but draw the comparison between like a keeping up with the Kardashians. That is them yeah. I'm sure things are a little bit different but for the most part that's them in their most transparent form in even when Paris was doing. Reality Television that wasn't actually hurt and you're right. I think that it saved her in a way like although it's that within itself brought its own set of challenges I really do think that it saved her to an extent, right? Especially, the trauma that she talks about and not just the trauma she experienced at the school kind of all the trauma that was associated with Dame and her. Inability to trust everything that comes along with that I. Think the persona protected. It was kind of like. Her own version of. I don't WanNa say associated identity disorder because that's not exactly a choice but hers was Kinda conscious doing of that. It away no, I think that's fair. I WANNA I want to explain the it was very interwoven throughout the entire documentary and at the end really came to. But I just want to explain the source of the trauma because it's important to have that understanding free to understand the other points that we're going to talk about. So. Basically, when Paris was a teenager, the hiltons moved to New York City. And I mean imagine you're a wealthy. Beautiful teenager you have the city as your playground. She really took that to her advantage and it got to the point where she was going out every night. She was just really kind of rebellious and Rick and Kathy are parents didn't know what to do. And they sent her to a bunch of different schools. Nothing, was really doing the trick. She actually physically escaped from, I think four of the schools and so finally as kind of a last resort, they sent her to the school when she was seventeen years old call to Provo Canyon in Utah. They Center for eleven months. and. This was. This place was the source of we're all kind of the main parts of trauma happened are so. First off let me say she was taken from her bedroom in the middle of the night coordinated by her parents by two men. WHO. Literally took her in the middle of the Night Nicky Hilton was on the documentary and she explained what it was like being in the hallway here in Paris scream cars that she's taken out of her bedroom and she sees as she's as she's being taken out her parents standing in the hallway just crying. No understanding of what's going on she thought she was being kidnapped I. Think it until she saw her parents that she kind of rise. This was a coordinated thing. and. She gets to this school and it was just. An incredibly abusive harmful environment. She was unable to really tell her parents what was going on it continually told her if she tried to tell her parents, they would say she was lying they made all of the kids they kind of force fed them pills. They had her solitary confinement for twenty one hours at a time. There was she personally do not speak of sexual abuse, but she spoke of physical and verbal abuse and she said that a lot of the children there were also sexually abused. She says, she felt like the employees they are kind of off on harming children both physically sexually also just verbally. So. It was basically this very toxic dark terrible environment that no child should ever be in. Meanwhile. She couldn't communicate that her parents and they didn't know what was going on and so. Like I said at the end of the documentary, she really gets into that because she brings in other survivors from that school and the kind of side mission of the documentary in addition to talking about her is to bring awareness to this school into the abuse it happened not just by that but also by other employees then started sister schools so it was. I I did not realize when we were watching the previews how? Incorporated. This message was going to be and I mean that's so positive like I'm so glad that she took this opportunity to bring so much awareness to it but never in my in my thoughts that I think she was going to bring former students former survivors that she hadn't seen in twenty years who came into her house and are doing this entire photo shoot to break the silence to bring awareness, and we'll talk about how that trauma manifested itself, but I just have to say. I was floored witnessing what she saying. Yeah me too I think the moment. that. Really. Struck me was when they're talking to her mom on, they're talking to Cathy. And the person who's Doing the documentary says to Kathy Did you know that put her in solitary talking about the school in Kathy's like what do you mean by that and the the documentary woman says Paris did you know that they had peron solitary confinement like frozen when she was at the school at Kathy? Like has this moment where she's like she never told me that and it's like you can see the look of horror on her face hearing it for the first time on camera. It was so unbelievably chilling and I'm sure if you saw the documentary, you guys know what we're talking about if not, you will when you watch it. Because something that Paris and Nicky said throughout the thing was that her parents really had this aim to create this very private life and I think Nikki was one who said they are the king and queen of sweeping things under the rug and of in this situation if they knew what was going on, they would've never allowed it but. I. Think there's always been or at least the sense that I got was that. Parents didn't really want to rock the boat like there was a lot of things that she didn't necessarily tell them about because it was easier that way. and. I couldn't help I'm not a mother obviously, but I couldn't help it imagine. As a mother to be hearing in such a public setting for the first time, the abuse that your daughter suffered in of course, by knowing Paris's fault for not telling her that's probably the hardest thing to say. But I'm just saying like the guilt that she felt out that it was warranted necessarily but I'm just saying, I felt like I really felt like I saw her soul in that moment to shrivel up you know in like just pure shock. There was yes and there was a part that I felt like when Nikki empowers talking about the school and they're talking about what parents was like as a teenager Nikki says to Paris have you ever apologized to mom and dad? and. Parents he was like you really put them through Hell and Paris was like why went through hell to and there was a part of me that felt like. Paris new, which she had put her parents through and then knew what her parents by extension had put her through even though it wasn't her parents fall wasn't her parents intention and I felt like there was a part of Paris. That was like now we're even I don't have to make them feel guilty I don't have to say sorry. I feel even with you, I don't need to like explain everything that I went through to make you feel guilty for what happened because I feel guilty for the way I was a teenager, and if we could just leave it at that than we can, we can move on from it. Yeah. It was. It was unbelievably vulnerable to share also. Absolutely like fascinating and horrifying to watch because. This wasn't like you know this wasn't just I think a lot of people when they saw maybe the pre or they didn't really know what was going on the exactly like poor little rich girl. She's often wilderness camp like that would that very easily could have been the narrative if you didn't watch this and then when you're Washington you're you're realizing that the trauma that she went through was like. A really big deal. This was not you know this was this was a disgusting thing that should never happen to any child I. think it just started to really hit so deeply and. Throughout the course of the film started to see how. What happened her there manifested itself in like We literally haven't talked about this yet. But I wanted to talk about when she said how One of the big themes is that she's a total workaholic and this is something she's spoken about before and other interviews but she never really one of the reasons that she hasn't found a relationship and partially. As they're still kind of figuring out is 'cause she's not sure if she necessarily wants that. But one of the reasons is because she travels two hundred and fifty days of the year. She's rarely in a place for more than two days. She has such a busy work schedule and clearly she comes from a wealthy family and clearly she's done so on her career and so. She was kind of saying was I am an absolute workaholic and I will not stop until I make a billion dollars. And you could see the interviewer kind of have this moment of like. Really. You think. That'll make you happy and she said. Well I thought that I would be that I would get there when I meet one, hundred, million dollars she was like, but I have to keep going and she said this very interesting phrase. I don't know if you call this where she was like I just WanNa know that I'll never have to worry like they'll never have to worry about a thing. And what's so interesting is like we can all pretty much say Paris Hilton from a financial perspective will never have to worry but. She is so an understandably. So deeply scarred from the lack of control that she felt in that environment that control has now manifested itself into every aspect in her life and specifically when it comes to finances I, think she associates like financial freedom with freedom and a lot of ways which makes sense and so she's gone to the. Furthest extent to make sure that. She really really is completely liberated like it. Translates into the fact that she lives. It's really extravagant lifestyle meaning she has to have so many shoes so many clothes when she's in her closet standing there like I don't even like this stuff I don't even use the stuff she was like, but I just feel like because I was stripped of everything and my freedom i WanNa have everything. Yeah it is. It is crazy the way you watched it a manifest and come up with the thing she was talking about in sometimes very consciously in sometimes I think in ways that she didn't even realize like, for example, think the whole thing was a billion dollars yep absolutely the financial security aspect of it, but I think that on top of that I think the idea of not working scares her. So by setting goals instead of because saying I'm just GonNa work forever as a really scary thing to say aloud so when you set certain. Goals off. It's be happy then and I think the way Peres operates. It's not even about the money or how much she's making I. Think the idea of just having nothing terrifies her because when you wash documentary, the only time Paris is sitting still doing nothing is when she sleeping at night and she can't even do that and she can't even be alone of thoughts. So I think the idea of being able to tangibly measure her success in terms of monetary gain isn't even about the actual value of dollar it is so much more about like. At what point in my life do I think that I'll be able to just stop and be okay with myself? Totally totally and she said that when I think it was the interview or you you can't do this forever choose again I'm going to be just like this forever. Yes I can. She has she has this real. This real desire to continue moving because at least when she's moving at least when she's working, she doesn't have to confront some of her like deep esteem, which is such a common thing that we see and. I I was literally like glued I didn't look at my phone wants, which is the most unheard of thing for me. I think also have so many thoughts I'm trying to organize them. I don't WanNa put too much on the line because I think is just so much more finally can really just discuss it. As. You guys know now she is currently dating this Guy Carter Room, and at the time when this was filmed, they were not dating and she had just come off her engagement with Chris Olga and so in the documentary when it was being filmed, she was kind of dating this guy, Alex And there was this one scene that I absolutely cannot here. Would you guys thought about it because I was glued? So. She is a very successful career as DJ. She makes a million dollars a set, and she said, you know people think one because I'm a woman in two because of who I am that it's total bullshit. She's like they don't realize that I actually know what I'm doing. So she gets this Gig at Tomorrowland which I am not really into the Cyprus effort. Apparently, it's one of the big music festivals in the world it's a huge deal. And you can see she genuinely is so excited. Proud to be there. She brings her boyfriend along. And she's a lot of press go. So she in the beginning like, let me just get the press out of the way stewing all these interviews. It's nonstop. and. Her boyfriend I think it had a couple of drinks and they're meeting up in the room or right before she's about to go onto her set when I say right before I literally mean this was within twenty minutes before she was about to do the biggest set of her life. And her boyfriend is like I don't know you're not really paying attention to me. You're doing more promotion for other people than you're doing for me. And by the way read between the lines what he meant about that was you're posting more of your fans than you are with me which like. That is just a whole other thing which will get dry. And she's like Babe I'm sorry you know that I have to do this. I'm never GONNA say no to a fan. You know that it has to do press. Can we please talk about this later? Can we please talk about this later? This is a huge deal she is so unbelievably nervous and excited, and this guy has the nerve to number one completely make her feel guilty make her feel like she not paying attention to him constantly beyond him and she's like you're so insecure stop please stop please can we talk about this after he will not stop She's form in its away from her set. At this point. He's still honor and she finally turns around and she says her manager cut his bracelet, cut his bracelet kick in the fuck out and she physically has her manager cut off his artists bracelet kick him out. Put Him in a van. And she said after she was like. I respond. So negatively anytime somebody tries to control me because I will never be controlled again she succeeded any man that tries to control me and been those relationships before it's never gonNa work out I thought that was so powerful. Yeah. That was really powerful in also there's apart the beginning where she kind of talks about how offer relationships tend to go the exact same way where it's like so great at first and then you know sh She. Kind of feels unequal to them. They end up feeling massive. They ended up taking that out on her and become controlling and some she says abusive and that was really interesting. Just watching it her explained that in the beginning and then an hour later when you're. Getting to know her the really nowhere throughout the documentary to watch that play out was so interesting in also what was kind of crazy I don't know if you caught this was at the end when she is talking about the relationships that Shiite after Provo which was the school she's talking about how so many of them were abusive and the other people in the school kind of the same sentiments that they were abusive because they craved love so badly and the damage that the school did. To them kind of made them associated a lot of negative things with love like one of the things Paris sang was like Oh my God this person be so badly that they can't stand the idea of me being anywhere else from me not being with that or they're fighting so hard for me that it's look how much passion whatever. But there's she's talking pictures where she has bruises on her arms and those were the pictures, the Paparazzi pictures from Nick Carter when their relationship ended. I don't know if she had ever spoken about confirmed. Those pictures or what the situation was. Those pictures were taken and it was like the alleged abuse of Nick Carter and in the documentary she's explaining what happened saying that he grabbed her so hard. Right she didn't say she didn't use his name, but it was very clear. If you I'm sure if you listen to podcasts, you know the pictures that were new the time that it was regarding nick and also. Not to get off topic but wasn't weren't those the pictures when that Aaron and nacogdoches such a fight about yes. Well, there was. There were two fights there was Aaron Carter stuff recently where he brought up Paris but in the show that they show when Nick Narain are fighting outside. Nick Matter Aaron because Aaron was in the car with Peres and they had taken a cell or something, and they were hanging out and naked. So upset about them Erin references the fact that he hit her is I believe yeah. Yeah it was really it was I. I don't know I watching this I felt. I really felt so sad because I don't. She didn't. She never wants alluded to whether or not she's in therapy, which is completely her her choice whether or not she is but. Trying to think, I, want to phrase it was very clear to me that there were a lot of like. Really unhealthy thought patterns that were going on. She recognizes all of these things that are going on in her mind like how she doesn't want to. She's afraid to grow up and she's afraid to not work and she's afraid to You know like she she was consciously saying I. Think once I have a billion dollars that I'll be happy and while she sang that, you can see she knows that that's not true and she knows it that's not going to bring her happiness but I feel like she hasn't gone to the place where she can confront that. Fully I don't know it was very. I couldn't. I couldn't look away. No I know and the thing is kind of Wimax the earlier point of being able to create an alternate personality to kind of deal with things. There is a beauty in that, which is what I was saying before about like being able to protect yourself but the negative side of doing that also is that. Those lines tend to blur you're and when you're so busy creating another persona in trying to keep up with that other persona. It's hard to know what version of you is feeling and experiencing what things. So when you're not happy, it's like which Paris might making happy when I'm talking about family which Paris wants a family and when those lines blur and you start to feel unsure of yourself, that's what you kind of see Paris going through because you see these everything that she does is kind of a dual personality because there a part of her, that's like work work work. I don't really like I want to be in the public eye I. Love My fans I wanna keep doing this forever and then there's the other side of her. That's like about any of the things that I have I'm not really happy. All of the stuff is really traumatizing for me and they coexist at the exact same time in it's like she's fighting. Off these two ideas and trying to figure out which one of them she actually wants and it's interesting watching her relationship with her sister Nikki I think especially like was a big takeaway because even though Nikki's three years younger, she acts as the older sister kind of like the parent which is kind of it seems like she's been doing that since they were kids. and. There's one part where Nikki's asked her about wanting kids and Paris like, yes. But no, like I have all these ideas I know pointed name R I, wanted name or London i WanNa have a girl I want brought these days but also I don't know if I want kids at all and Nikki asser like are you at least happy and para says sometimes, Nikki sister will you don't seem happy lately? It was all so interesting like I could say a million things about the documentary because there's also the whole side of it of like what and means to pop culture and these iconic images in the story behind all. Her escapades at her photo shoots and who she was at the time So there are so many layers to it like it's a documentary about her but because her famous so layered because her personas are so layered, you hit on ed because her family. So famous you hit on so many different pieces in an hour and forty five minutes beyond so and the stuff was Nikki hands down to me was probably the most interesting part of the documentary just watching their relationship one you know it's funny because if you have. The hiltons are one of the most famous families in America, but they weirdly are very private with the exception of Paris like Nikki said I don't do things like this only doing this because I know that I know Paris better than anyone does she's like so I want to make sure that I'm on record even dad wouldn't do it. It was only the. Only people that had confessionals were nicky, her mom and Kim for like thirty seconds I don't think there was really anyone else. Is Kyle Richards one in the beginning right Kyle Richards, and then of course, you know her fellow survivors from that school but I'm saying specifically about Paris which really goes to show how small her circle is and she said it but. I thought that the way that Nikki approached her with something that was. Probably. The most needed influence in her life like Nikki tells her like it is Nicky said she has so many. Yes. People around that. I can't be here. Yes. Person Nikki's like the thing about Paris is that she is addicted to the drama. She's like not necessarily the drama with being famous, but there's always drama in her life and as Nikki's talking overdose overlaying with. This experience where Paris in the elevator and she realized that she got her sunglasses, they're going to be laid to this van but she refuses she runs upstairs to the sunglasses in Nikki says she it's always that there's always something. There's always a last minute thing or she's always missing something and she said like she just runs so many miles a minute that she needs that. And I I like I'm trying to gather my thoughts I'm thinking so fast but There was this really. Interesting part I don't know if you thought this and maybe I'm just looking too much into it but. When Paris was talking about her relationship with Nikki and her relationship with her mom and she was saying that her mom still treat her like a child like in a lot of ways we know Paris I think thirty nine but. Everything that happened in her childhood in the way that she was. So rebellious etcetera like her mom has never really grown out of that and always we'll have this major level of overprotection that she doesn't have with the other siblings. and. She was reading one of the text messages from her moms come down here. Young lady when she was at Nevada I couldn't help think. We never understood this but the way Kathy comments on Paris's pictures. And Her dad by the way of like. Please don't think that I'm reading this crazy now, but she always comes Paris please call your parents Paris plea I was like Oh. My God, are we witnessing that in real time? I had that Same thought. Zach thought about the comments because what I thought was a really like crazy part documentary also was i. think you hear the stories about Paris and you look at her when she was a teenager and she was sixteen going out to these clubs in the city and she was put away in these schools where you know let it be somebody else's problem. Let somebody else deal with her in you watch the way that Nikki. is so protective in parental over her it kind of makes you think that her parents weren't involved that they just kind of put her onto somebody else that they didn't care what she did and that was not the case at all. It was the case at all it was they were. So over protective, they were so involved and everything that Paris did was a rebellion against the fact that she actually had very strict parents and. It was really crazy because I think that. Her parents always kind of had the reputation, the media of Don, even attempting to control her and it was so crazy watching that play out with her relationship with her parents today in watching their home videos because it wasn't the impression I had of them at all. I had. You know what I started to realize I. Didn't know what I thought like it's very hard for me. Now to kind of fully understand my perception before watching this because I'm realizing I. Don't think I had any like I really am realising how little I knew about the Hiltons kind of because they're so. Specifically Rick but Kathy too like they don't want to be in the public eye, they try to really protect privacy, which is in direct contrast Paris. But just. Even even even filming in her she was like they went to her grandparents house to film choose. He doesn't know that I'm here she was talking about her infamous photo shoot with Dave, Lachapelle where picture where she saying fuck you in that ended up being a vanity fair spread she was like we snuck into my GRANDPA's house to shoot that. You know just there there were so many elephants of her that were in direct contrast to what her family wanted. I I really I. Hope You guys watch this I I know we got a lot of damage even just in the little time that came out. It was so good. It was so good. I. Guess Let because it's a big part of when you're talking about her trajectory like we should just mention the sex tape element. So. As you guys know she made out with Rick Solomon who's her boyfriend at the time? She was nineteen he was thirty six it was released in two thousand four. And there's no other word for this guy than just in absolute fucking douchebag like just A. person, really. Like sleazy look at him and you just you feel like you WanNa. Take a shower. Right. Like is exactly to put it exactly and she was saying how you know. She was like he was I wanted to do everything at the time to please him. She's like he was so much older than me. He was really the first time that I was really in love at saying like Oh. Please let me just film you come on I won't show anyone is just for us. I can get another girl over here in a second like really making her feel like she had to do that in order to please him, it was such manipulation. It was such a disgusting Abusive Act, and of course, as you know, he shared it and she said the two parts about it she was like the. One just the violation that I felt she. But also the fact that the public thinks that I had to do that I wanted to do that I wanted to release my tape and she was like I didn't have to do that. She was like I was on a fine kind of trajectory like that would that was not something that I had to do, and then all of a sudden it became this blueprint that it was all these all these things started to get leaked. One thing that was interesting was the way that she felt that she carried this guilt about that in terms of the effect that she has had pop culture from attention on a younger audience but also this part was such a powerful anecdote. When her sister Niki. was saying how they lived in hotel at the time and every morning, there would be like New, York, Post New York, times, whatever deliveries, and she said when this was going on in, Paris was on the front of the newspaper. She's like I would walk down the hallway in the morning before my parents woke up and I would flip every single newspaper over said, it didn't see Paris's face on the front and so that my parents wouldn't see it when they walked out of their hotel room. That part that part hit like that heart struck me Yeah they were so so many things I would actually. As much as I enjoyed and does not Chris Paul all as much as I enjoyed the southbound. Paris. Now, who she really is the part of me, that's the most interested in her is the culture of the two thousand and her influence on that and her stories behind like. As. Interested as I was in the other stuff because I think he gave us such an insight into who she is the parts of the documentary that were my favorite was when she's talking about again to wrap US House taking that picture the. Like the definition of iconic they give you don't want us to have restored conic. Again, this could be my last time because that's what that picture. She's talking about going out when her? Kim. Her in camera walking down the street and they showed a video of somebody cutting in front of him to take a pop Paparazzi photo with to take a photo, the Perez the Paparazzi coming after parents also her social media director talking about how his career started because he had Paparazzi taking photos of Paris like those were the things to me that were like. Yes. You as a person is so important in your story. So important but also you as a person and the way that it is forever impacted pop culture and social media and celebrity as we know today is such a huge part of it too. It's huge. It's absolutely huge I. I don't know this was incredible. So well done I would love to interview her, but I would love for it to be in person I she. So she is such a complex individual and. I feel really grateful that she allowed us to have this look into her life because I mean I've always had a lot of respect for Harris but I. 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They've been working out during the day going out to dinner at night I. Don't know. I. I kind of this was maybe a fling in everybody was doing what we as spectators always do inches assume that there are a couple when they're not but it seems like they are moving in that direction and you know what? As, much as I loved him in day together I hold true in my belief that like. I just I like Cayenne Jacob together and I. Think there is someone so fucking magnificent and magical waiting for. Like I truly believe I know in our minds we can't think of someone that is worthy of dating her, but I think she's GonNa come out of left field with whoever the next person she's dating her and we're going to be like, okay. That makes sense because I can't formulate it in my mind because there's no one that to me is on her level I mean I obviously agree with you I've said it a million times. There's just one good enough for her. In. TERMS OF JACOB HIGH A. My thoughts on this. I think it's hard to look at a couple of this like take it. So seriously in the beginning because it's clearly a very new relationship but what I will say is I fucking love watching young celebrities be young celebrities, I, love watching them kind of navigate Hollywood and this new generation of celebrity coming into the light and watching their friend groups warm and their relationships form in things change like I just think it is such a fun experience. Completely agree and this is this is a perfect example of that. There's living life. They're happy. You know what good for Nothing makes me happy are the twenty-something celebrities having dinner at Nobu? Assuming it's just it me happy Julie I so I it's funny. I was talking to someone about how all the pictures of them are them holding hands right into like what we could. We assume that they've known each other or been romantically involved for what a month a month and a half tops navy roughly ish. That's what. Yeah and I was just trying to think I know it's so not fair to make the comparison of your own life to a celebrity. But of like when you're dating someone house June India hold hands I, think it's a funny concept to kind of analyze but I was thinking that on top of the fact that their relationship is different just. Like because probably older than they than their ages. Corona really has this sense of like bond and intimacy that just happens so much quicker. So I really do think not only when you're a celebrity but then when you're dating during quarantine, you just get so much closer to so much faster. Inevitably, I mean holding hands is the third base of Corona. Literally. If you're into touch, someone's hand their bare hand. No I can't. Because my mind and what I've come to learn in this time is that might be the way to do it Roy. Shivered Shivers. Went Down my spine I haven't touched a bare hand without a latex glove. Oh. My God. Bare hand touching they need to literally put a warning on that. We know. Intro like that one. Oh, I just have one thought that just came up that I know is a little bit out of order but I have to say it. In Paris documentary when she says a little bit with the sex tape. But when she said people say that I'm the original influence I sometimes feel like I created a monster. Oh Yeah That was so unbelievably interesting. Also going off on that in the end when they ask her when she's talking about these young kids taking selfies, only being able to see themselves with a filter and she couldn't imagine me get thirteen year old girl. The person asks her do you feel responsible for that and she pauses for Awhile while I kinda do which is that's a lot to put on yourself and. I think that Paris pave the way for that a lot of ways. But if she didn't do it, somebody else would have I don't think vanity is new an exclusive to the paracel image of celebrity but it is so interesting to be able to make a claim as big as that like I influenced self culture and. A lot of ways in a very negative way and have that actually be a legitimate claim. I know it's not. It's not like she says that anybody's like, oh, please you're so full yourself like that's a very she was one of the first people to hold the camera in the quote Selfie way without there being a front facing camera like that's that's I. Know that sounds ridiculous but it's actually true. Yeah that was wild to me and I think she feels. But it was kind of like what you were saying in the beginning in it's totally different than mix of gratitude and also unhappiness. This was a different. It was like gratitude yet also potential guilt in a way. Yeah. Any being that that that duality when you're a celebrity is very common and I think that it obviously varies based on your degree of celebrity but. Paris I know where my bags is do we had already been forward Paris's sadness definitely felt different. Any could just be that others celebrities of that magnitude don't let us in in something like that intimate of a form that vulnerable performed allows to see that or it's celebrities do have that but a lot of them had worked past it and been able to. Kind of take that sadness element out of it, but for Paris is seemed like. That was just a permanent part of who she is. It seems like she'll always just carry that with her. I completely agree I think she will carry it with her and I also think that the. I don't know it was weird because it wasn't like her relationship with fame was one that she is upset about like the actual part of being famous never once complained about that wasn't the issue wasn't the cameras are too much. It wasn't like that was too much. It was really more. So what's going on with her internally and the juxtaposition between her real-life in her quote famous life but it wasn't like she was saying I wish I could just hide I don't think that's something that really bothers her. I just I don't know there was so much when. You guys watching them. We can talk more about it next week but the nightmare stuff in how? She every is having the exact same nightmare being taken like that is a really unbelievable thing to have to deal with every single day of your life, and while I do not fault Kathy wreck because I know they were trying to do what was best for them. I don't know how the process. Fake kidnapping your kid in the middle of the night. There isn't a second of like whom this may have some long lasting damage like I get it. That's how things were done but I just felt like Oh my God that is really that is really fucking terrifying. Yeah. Because I mean listen I understand why she can't sleep when you have the worst. Experience of your life associated with the place you used to feel most comfortable I mean there's nowhere that you feel more secure for most people then being alone in your room in your bed comfortable and when somebody violates that than the idea of sleep is then forever associated with it and I think from her parents perspective. When you are apparent and you feel such a lack of control and you. Say to somebody else. We don't know what to do not equipped to handle this week. There's no guidebook on this somebody help us and somebody says to you. Here's the thing that you could do. It will work. We're proven were experts. It's going to be really roughly handled, but it will be really good in the long run and you feel already so powerless than. The idea of. What security you feel on your own parenting in what security you feel in what you think is right it all goes into questions when somebody else comes in with this idea and you're already question yourself. It seems kind of natural in a lot of cases to say, okay I'M GONNA. Let you take the reins on this because I'm out of my I'm out of my house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I know I know, sorry we have to move on I just I. If we didn't have crashing speak like if it wasn't coming back, I would say we could have done a whole lot but. A lot there. Okay. Next. Wanted to talk about which I know everybody knows about by now. But this is just crazy and something else came out this morning actually added so. Cathy Randolph Ann, Colton Underwood from the bachelor as we all know they split may twenty ninth of this year and after their split Casio kind of taken a break from social media, and in July, she came back to instagram and she posted the story that said hating on me for my break-up. Please stop it's been an awful few months for me trying to go through it. I'm still going through it. It's hard enough without your note comments you would only know nothing. So go away. I will get into in a minute but I think at least from what we heard like. She was really struggling a lot behind the scenes because. She never wanted to have the same level of public attention that I think Colton wanted like yes. Of course, by going on the bachelor opening yourself up to that, and their relationship definitely had a little bit of an influence vibe but it always seems and from what we heard that he was the one that wanted that fame more and meanwhile the spotlight wasn't something she necessarily crave. So I think the additional heat that she was getting from the break was just like. Really, hard for. So on Friday according to a public documents on file and family court filed a restraining order. And the claims were that Colton had been stalking harassing her with unsettling text messages. He planted a tracking device tape to the bottom of the back bumper of her car keep track of her whereabouts. She also claimed that he'd been showing up to her apartment uninvited and her parents house in Huntington Beach. She said that he takes obsessive walks her apartment complex loitered in the alley outside of her bedroom window at her parents. Huntington beach. House at two am. And apparently, some of the harassing accessories included accusing her of hanging out with her ex boyfriend and she alleged that he said anonymous text messages to her and to himself pretending to also be a victim of the anonymous docker. Apparently she claims that he later admitted to sending the messages and planning the tracking devices. So then there was this news article that came out today that said a source tells news quote Kassy's really upset that she had to file a restraining order. She didn't want it to come to this. And Kind of the sense that we both got from just like things that we heard was that she never wanted this to be public kind of got to the point and I don't know this for a fact but between her and between like. I think also her family because as you guys know, her dad was never a huge fan of him and I think that this was a last resort like to me. Not. That I would everything anyone does this but. The criticism that she was getting from a couple of Colin's like you know diehard quote stands like Oh this is so performed is not the case like I. Really Truly believe this was her last resort option to be like I. Don't know what else to do in less getting the courts involved because I'm actually afraid. I. Think that her family was probably additionally supported that move. Yeah I mean. That move makes complete sense to me. I mean your safety in your security is the most important thing and. When somebody is doing something that calls that into question. Like you don't know you can't know how. Far, they're willing to take that. You can feel security in knowing a person and thinking a certain way about that but as soon as they crossed that line. You no longer know for sure what they're capable of doing so like I find it obviously ridiculous for people to be criticizing her for getting a restraining order when he's obviously harassing her But also if you know if you're on the position of saying like okay but that's like. I don't know how why you would say this if you're on the position of saying, you know that's harmless of him. He didn't do anything. He just like is keeping I, don't I don't even know how to justify that but also you don't know that it's just GonNa they're like that is awful enough as it is and that is awful. Of Him to do really disgusting in really violating but without the security of getting a legal team involved, how do you know where that's going to end? How do you have security in that? Oh completely no. I completely agree not that our opinions matter. But in my opinion, she's a thousand million percent justified in doing so and I really respect her for just putting her safety I is not an easy thing to do and I think. You know I don't know I love. Being honest with you Julian Bachelor people we've been transparent about that but I sometimes followed the couple's a little bit after I. Watch a little bit just to kind of get a little understanding. No, I am not like a hard but I always got the weirdest vibe from their relationship. I always felt like he was so much more into it. There's always weird lake. Not, necessarily control but like there was a weird vibe of him wanting to kind of like show her off and and. Like just coddle her away and I think she was just not having it and I think she may be my hypothesis was like kind of struggling with that behind the scenes before they even broke up with the idea of like I'm being smothered and he's so much more into this than I am which, of course, there's a flip side. If people that would say, the guy should always be more into it than the women in a heterosexual relationship. Say whatever you want I thought it was fucking weird. I always felt like she was She always kinda wanted out the door meanwhile he was like pulling in and it gave me the weirdest vibe and I just really wish her safety and peace and I think. This is definitely relationship is better off not together I a hundred percent agree i. also think that if you look at the way, his season ended of the bachelor and I don't mean the fact that he was emotional I think that it's really unfair to say that somebody who was upset in emotional in the moment. Is showing a sign of southern that would be an indicator later on of this type of behavior I. think that's unfair. But I think that the way their relationship always seemed was that. So much of her quote security in the relationship and so much of his position was how hard he fought for her and that can only go on for. So long at a certain point that idea of. Or that confusion of quote romance because he was so upset by her leaving in. So upset by not or thinking that he had lost her. That only extends so far into a relationship, and once that kind of disappears you need something else to keep that in place and I always felt like so much of their relationship was just him showing off the fact that he did it he did what he said he was GonNa do accomplish what everyone thought was impossible in what everyone made fun of her him for and you know heroes him showing off his eyes and she's not a prize. Exactly, that's like the first of all beautifully said data is one of the biggest misconceptions in it happens in a lot of different dynamics relationship specifically think in heterosexual relationships when the man feels like they got this cries and they. Not. Intentionally object defying the woman. We see it happen so much and a lot of it just comes from like they're a lot of their self confidence or self worth is rooted from what they feel that they were able to quote achieve and that gets really dangerous because there's a very very blurred line between like being proud of your partner and then feeling like you need to show them off in an effort to elevate yourself and so. I don't know him personally but I always kind of got that sense. I know we're not alone in that thinking yeah I am sure that that happens in all types of relationships I just think that our frame of reference in terms of this situation is in. Relationships like this one but I'm sure that that is a very, very common trend in terms of. First of all, it's never healthy for your worth to be based off the other person also for your worth of like look at my relationship look guy to that. Then reflect yourself. That's not healthy for you either on top of not being healthy for. This person that you're supposed to love and take care of an instead are using it to show off. Yeah could. I don't know I. Just I wish I really wish them both like peace happiness and I. I think. I've which she has our full support good for her for doing what she needed to do for safety 'cause it's not an easy thing in a lot of people do when it's too late. So especially our guy yes stash guy. And Shame on anyone forgiving her any sort of backlash for doing well she to protect herself really if you feel like your safety is at. 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That's the car as a K. A. R.. A. DOT COM SLASH CBC to get twenty percents off your order Sikora dot com slash CBC. Okay, next thing, we just wanted to briefly touch on the whole Chris Evans Situation I promise. This is going to be a very respectful brief discussion, but people seem to be really confused I. Think People that didn't fully understand what's going on and it was a news story. So let me just explain what happened. Basically on, let me start by saying as most of you know Chris Evans is relatively new to instagram. He's only been on for a couple of months and. I. Don't know this for a fact, but I feel comfortable saying he's probably not the most well-versed in the. AP. Julie Sarah Assumption, very fair as he's new to the game, right? So, he shared a story on Saturday and it was a video of him and his friends playing heads up, which is such kind of like a happy. Joyous game. Chris Evans out here, trying to bring that into the world, and the issue is that he accidentally uploaded as a screen recording accidentally he rats across the end. So at the end, there was peak at his camera which included addict picture, but also a lot of just very interesting images that seemed like he kind of screen shotted or saved all of these memes of him or pictures of him. The one that got the most attention was this very close picture of him where he looked strikingly handsome, might I add and? Guard that Pussy in red letters and so. There was this kind of narrative spread that was like it's crazy that Chris Evans accidentally leaked his camera on the most interesting part of it wasn't the Dick Pic that was like the twitter kind of. Conversation happening. and. So I I guess I just WanNa say here like, Oh, obviously there's different. There's something like this happens I think one. This was a little bit different than some other situations because there's a very different field or a situation like this when someone is hacked or someone is being blackmailed Allah Bella Thorne were there's a camera in someone's. Dressing Room I'll Erin Andrews or even Orlando Bloom when you're out in public naked in Paparazzi he takes it and then sells a picture. Yes. He was naked that still a huge invasion of privacy whereas this was Chris Evans, his own personal accident, and so I think there was just like a different field, which is why you saw mark Ruffalo and you saw Chris Evans's brother kind of joking about it which I am sure. They made were kind of cool with him. And the way that we took it is obviously saw some people like, Oh, you didn't see the picture is swipe up on our story like that's just something we would never do because personally as someone and no, I'm not a celebrity but someone who has had my nudes both leaks and also accidentally posted I just would not want people voluntarily kind of sharing them but. For the purpose of this podcast Julian I are not going to comment on his Dick just does not seem like the right thing to do or not going to engage in a discussion about it but also in an effort to not sound holier than thou, I would be absolutely lying through my teeth if I set you in our little group chat between me, Jelena's Bell Yeah we talked about it so like I can't lie. I'll tell you one thing Chris Evans will never again make a mistake forgetting to crop the end of a screen recording never again. Okay. This is what I want to say about this in generally genuinely this is something that has helped me. On Your iphone when you crop video, you have the option to buy their saving the video or saving the video as a new clip. Always saves the video as a new clip and delete the original has saved me more times than I can ever count and to anybody who maybe isn't the best of their phone I'm telling you. It's absolute game changer like truly. is a really helpful piece of advice when you are screen recording as if you press the stop recording linking, you press the Little Red in the corner and you press stop recording it'll stop cut you off. So you don't need to go to your camera roll after they you need to x. out to go to your camera to end it like you would just ended in the moment to avoid any camera shots but the other thing I'll say about Chris Evans is like You know what you have on your camera like you know what? Sitting there. You take every precaution necessary to avoid that coming out. You saw how close to the bottom that was on your camera roll. I just I honestly was almost impressed seriously might not being facetious as as as to the briefly like I personally in my own life I have a separate album these. I'm so afraid of having it on my camera on case on like scrolling through a little album for pictures that I wouldn't want seeing but he was just out there and you WanNa know something. New I mean just the way that I felt about this is like, okay it's over you know what I mean like it doesn't need to be a huge. A huge thing of course is going to be talked about Chris Evans is a celebrity, a heartthrob. He accidentally posts a picture of his Dick. There isn't any malcontent because it's not someone. You know blackmailing him or someone invading his privacy. So of course it's going to be spoken about now it's over like it doesn't need to be dragged out, but I do think. People would be lying to say that that's not going to be a story. Of course, it's going to be a story. Right, of course yeah, I mean listen. Thing most people were. Known. Next thing that I'm sure you guys saw but we just wanted to mention Addison Ray was cast in the upcoming remake of the nineteen hundred, nineteen comedy. She's all that. And the remakes going to be called he's all that and it's going to re imagine the plot from a teenage girls perspective. So Addison is going to be taking on the role that was inspired by. Freddie prints from the original. So. Here's the thing. This was kind of the general reaction I feel like people were. A little bit shocked and I think the first question was like wait does she act? Right, right? Yeah, I. Mean. I think this is kind of typical Hollywood in a sense like not that. It's every day that people just get handed roles, but there is. An element of the business side of Hollywood that knows that if you cast somebody with a large following, that does that turns into movie ticket sales so Why I'm sure that. She wouldn't have been given the role of she wasn't capable of performing it. Of course, there's that added layer of this is a really good business decision more than anything else right that's exactly what I was. GonNa say I mean we have seen that. We've heard about that so much in the industry where people have. I guess the best example is like sons you see I would say it happens more with Bela celebrities and I I would not consider us and Beatles I think she's really rising to fame right now. But like bill or steelers celebrities a lot of times they have this price on instagram that can come across as very almost like thirsty or like they're dying for followers which sometimes they just are. But sometimes, we know this confirmed in certain cases it's because they've been told by the manager or by the production company like it can't be a thing unless you have X. following because we need that to then translate into sales of the tickets which. Is something that didn't exist social media. Of course, you know fame mattered. But now that famous being able to be quantified with follower numbers, it adds a different element to the casting process which. This is a good example of that not towards Addison like you know, of course, happy for her but. Come on. That would just be a lie to say that her. Rapid increase to fame in her intense following didn't contribute to it. Yeah absolutely as I also just think in general this conversation you can have more on a page on episode or something, but it is an interesting commentary on the way that these tiktok stars. So many of them are having these platforms that are serving as jumping grounds for. I mean just crazy things like you know Charlie demilio having her own drink at Dunkin called the Charlie which is selling out nationwide. You know it's just it's kind of wild this rise that we're seeing on TIKTOK. It is I mean I. It's funny. I was in Dunkin tonight. I saw for the first time and I was like Okay Charlie okay. Charlie like it was tempting. But it is interesting because we think about TIKTOK also. There are people on Tiktok that kind of got famous by accident and I would consider Charlie to be one of those people where she was just like. A young girl dancing in her house and just took off and it really wasn't accident. But there are also a lot of people on tiktok Addison being one of them I believe. A lot of members of the hype and Sway House where they're on Tiktok because they wanna be famous and because it gives them a platform to show off. So example, like a Jaden Hustler who wants to be a singer. US, Tiktok to get his name out and to get his music out and because he did such a good job with that because tectonic really took to it. He now has a record deal. So there are some people who it's an accidental stopping point and there are some people whose entire sole purpose of being on the APP in the first place is to use it as a stopping point. Very very important distinction that would be an interesting episode to do to kind of examine the different personalities. Right because then you look at people and it's kind of interesting to some of them will start to say like, yeah, I. WanNa do this take direction that I wanna live off of Tiktok I wanna do this and then it's like but what else do what's your talent beyond Tiktok, what your top beyond a ten second video where you look hotter where you're dancing? Well so bats also interesting of people wanting to use it as a stepping stone, but then not really having. Anywhere to go after it freight versus the people who are using it for the very thing that is going to, for example, Tabitha Brown who I mean I am literally obsessed with her she is a Vegan chef on Tiktok and she literally started in her kitchen cooking because she enjoyed it you would just film her things and she happens to have a very relaxing voice. She happens to have a really kind of just like pleasant personality and she makes things fun and interactive and. She's become really famous successful, and I would imagine that that's then going to manifest itself into a cooking career. So like the very thing that she became famous on four Tiktok is what she's going to be versus somebody who is just doing a dance, and then now it's boosts them into acting or through some into a makeup line like that's also kind of. I don't know just it's. It's cool to see how many different ways it can go. If I was GONNA talk to one person about my problems, it would be Tabah. Julie she's so addicting. I I can't that votes calms my soul. She should. She should become a person on the map. Yeah. I. Agree. Yeah. Partnership Yeah listen calm. Actually aren't I think they're wondering? If you're listening. Yeah anyway. So that each I just thought that that was a interesting thing I wanted to mention an also. Guys the home edits show on Netflix I. Only watched to be honest with you Khloe Kardashian episode because they didn't have time to watch the rest and I don't know he loved it so much because. I'm just so interested in chloe's house in garage, but I was. Loving every second of it like there is something. So satisfying about watching organization happened in the course of a thirty minute episode that is so like. Exciting and calming. I know you mean it is very relaxing. Also is because you and I are so not like that. Smell. Like it or not like that and I read High Watson like that. I'm like I'm going to do it. I'm going to go through everything I'm going to organize I'm going to be that person and like my brain just is a cluttered mess it doesn't work like that. That wants to organize I just can't so badly. As, as I'm recording this podcast, my is downstairs in the garage working his fucking ass off to organize it all I wanna say we need the home editor, Daddy, I, know you WanNa, do what we just need him here but he I think he takes pride. So I don't Wanna I don't WanNa read on his trade now it's nice that he has something to do. It's an activity for him is active for him. Let him clean out the garage my God he's sweating like a motherfucker makes me happy I'm sure he's a lot a lot of cardio good cardio not too much. We'll give him some water will check on him but yeah, let let's have this little activity. Ugly. Okay. Anything else you'd like to add. Yes. There's one thing I want to mention actually. I know if you saw all of the headline circulating about the naira autopsy. But basically what every headline was was like. Amphetamines and hall found in Nias System at the time of her death like that was all the toxicology report released. At phetamine. Diana's a pan. At the time of her death. When you read the Article What it tells you is that everything that she honor system was a prescribed therapeutic dose and her alcohol levels were they said was the. One and a half waclaw that she had had with her. So the thing is I understand the way Click Bait works I'm this is not our first this is not our first dealing with inappropriate click bait but when you're dealing with someone's death and By extension their parenting at the time of death because they had their child with them who they saved. More unable to save themselves to spread untrue narrative about what could have been in their system at the time and how much could have been there system without clarifying nat in the article I mean clarified that in the headline is so wrong because it's not just like you're getting clicks because people are interested in that. The majority of people who see that do not read the article they just go and say to their friend Oh. Yeah. But she had all this stuff in her system she totally did on purpose or like she couldn't so much harm in so much dangerous. She had so much stuff win when you read it. That's clearly not the case I duNno, it just annoys me so much I understand click bait I understand why done. But when you're dealing with someone's life and death and their than their legacy and their abilities as a parent in their Hiroshima's as a parent to downplay that narrative for the point of your Click Bait is so wrong in so disgusted. I yeah. seriously. Perfectly. said it was absolutely. It's it's a totally different ballgame when someone is no longer here to speak for themselves I I was. I was floored by the way the media cover that which I don't know why we should be. It's constant, but it was really it was really disheartening to see. There are some things that just feel like they just don't get it I understand she's a celebrity. Anderson. It was going to be talked about but there was such a part of us. That was just like this does not need to be covered in this way or even at all really yes and I think that you're saying I don't know why we were surprised sometimes they do find myself surprised because I think about how far. We've come from the early two, thousand seven days when the headlines were so disgusting that it was like. Obviously already at the time but looking back on, it makes your skin crawl. And I think that we've come such a far away since the and then sometimes things like this happen where we haven't we haven't gone anywhere. Oh isn't that such a sad realization that happens you're right. It does been more. Yeah Anyway as always just sending all of our love to her family specifically her son. Briefly so to you guys last week about California psychics and I told you that I hadn't had my reading, and after I did I was speak more in depth about it this week and I had the reading I obviously loved it. 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So a disclaimer, it's one dollar a minute a five dollar promo promotion is available for new customers on I purchase five dollar bonus as a credit to your account upon purchase minimum purchase of twenty dollars required additional readings than range from four dollars to fifteen dollars per minute you must be eighteen and again for entertainment purposes only. Moving onto the award ceremony. So. Classic which I feel like hasn't happened in a little while. Look at that looking you celebrities stepping up your game I know. So Jennifer, Garner posted this video herself. She's wearing she looked adorable just because she is a beacon of light and someone comments are you pregnant and she responds on forty eight have three healthy kids am not and never will be pregnant. We laid up covered arrest have gained the covid nineteen possibly but that's another story. I we literally made our Captain Stop asking moment pregnant twenty twenty literally. Literally. This is one of the most infuriating things the way the Jennifer Gardner was able to respond to this with such class in humor and just like light as she always does is really respectable. I don't know how. I just don't understand how we are living in twenty twenty and it is still considered. Okay by some people to ask woman that. Literally, until the child is on the fucking table, I don't WanNa. Hear word about it right. So I, I mean how we feel about this we don't need to go on ramp, but it is just so unbelievably disgusting and can be so triggering for a million different reasons, and by the way for this comment be I almost get happy when we posted things not because I never ever want the person that commented it to get any sort of, of course, hope that they don't. Ever but I do hope that the public outrage conserve as maybe a reminder to people that aren't sure as to how offensive this comment is. How not? Okay. It is like the fact that this comment was in so many news stories makes me feel like that's a message to people that may of asset of like Oh. Okay. I didn't realize this isn't an okay thing to do exactly executor. And then come to the week goes to Kevin Hart. So sportscenter did kind of just a carousel of all these different pictures from. The NBA seasons were two players on the court had such different heights and Schwartz enemy to caption. These pictures are wild Kevin, her comments seems normal to me. While saw. Funny. I loved it. Was So funny. That was one where you I posted I. Think I was asleep or phone I. was like that was a good one I. Love when that happens you're asleep I posted it really early like seven am one day and I knew that you were going to wake up in like at a NASA makes me so happy it's kind of like Schneider Twain one you're asleep when I posted at one and I was like I can't wait bridge Alita wake up and see this. Yeah it still good was so. Okay. Moving on to the crashing recap heavy kardashian recap this week, Julie Heavy heavy I know okay. Yes. We're going to talk about Coordination Kendall on the sibling rivalry podcast but first let's just quickly talk about Kris Jenner's conversation with Ryan seacrest. Love to hear those words Christian conversation with Ryan. seacrest. Common Center now you know. So Chris. Went on his radio show after announcing the end of keeping up and she said, you're GonNa make me cry all over again it really hasn't sunk in yet I got very very emotional. This morning I woke up was in the gym at five with Chloe and Kim and we just kind of sat there and looked at each other and said, wow, what a ride We add to tell the crew yesterday. So we were all crying, but I think chloe chloe's the one who's taking the hardest. It hasn't stopped crisis. We announced it's been a hard decision I'm not GonNa lie it's been very emotional. and. I think the number twenty us to sound good until twenty twenty. But the number twenty two seemed like the right time I think for us to take a minute and breathe and everybody slow down a bit figure out what our next steps are. We've had such an amazing run were so grateful for every single moment in everyone we work with. Can I just tell you something? Yes, horse. I have really been feeling recently. And it could just be because of certain articles that have come out but. The way that I feel from the first time we reported on this when the news just hit two now is a lot more hopeful like I do believe that there's a very strong potential that not keeping up with the Kardashians but other forms of reality spinoffs will be going to other streaming services because. It's just like. It makes sense they were not going to be on cable television like there's just no way that the Kardashians who have. Who have? Branded themselves as being on the cutting edge of social media on media trends. In general, they are not gonNA, go down with this dying ship to me. They are going to go to a streaming service not for the same exact show but to potentially continue their reality endeavors and maybe a year or two years I just don't think this is the end I agree and I think we'll see it in a different format I'm not. Suggesting by any means because also ownership rights in things confusing with that, but I'm not suggesting by any means that one of the streaming services is just going to pick up couple of crashes where we left off and make the same show I. There's a lot of possibilities. There's a lot of things they can do as a with each other end solo projects, but I will say what's really interesting is that I think for a while. A reality TV was just associated with cable television. It was just a linear TV was you know the poem for reality, TV and has all of these streaming services started kind of flip that narrative like you see with Netflix's selling sunset like the idea that a reality show can live somewhere like a streaming service that was originally meant for like serious documentaries and really good quality television reality television never really fit into that narrative before. But as linear television kind of disappearing in, we're moving more towards streaming for everything. There is now a home in a place for that were there didn't used to be I think that. You. Know this is what I've I've said so much is that. As much as I love Cuba keeping up with the Kardashians and as much as that show was. So defining for me as a pop culture fan in as a Kardashian van. Larger picture of what this means for the future of television so much more interesting to me. Yes. That's exactly how I feel I. I just think that there's no way that the Kardashians we're going to continue to go down with the dying medium one on one hand and then also not not reinvent themselves. But like potentially try something out at a streaming service. Also an hundred I think there are contract is what one hundred, fifty, million dollars with I think so. Obviously that's a lot of money. Please do not twist my words bite. There's a very big difference between. Television network money than streaming service money totally different and I definitely think the amount of money they could get for a lot less work is incomparable. There is a really funny tweet I. Don't have it up. So I'm sorry if I miss a but there's a really funny tweet that was lake when they started playing beyond saying the first episode of euphoria that's when I knew HBO had that different kind of money. scenarious yeah yeah. That's such. A good one. That's exactly I. Feel about what you said it's a different any lesson. It's a different ballgame where you know linear television worked a certain way for a very long time and it didn't really change and. Streaming services kind of came in disrupted the whole flow of things and I think as talent and celebrities and people who live on TV or want to live on. TV, the only way to adapt to the changing times are to adapt to the way you think about how you want to be for trade. Exactly and I think that they. There's just no. Like. The especially, like fumbled the bag. Yeah like they're just they're just not gonNA fumble. If they're gonNA do something I think they may take some time to work on their own separate projects I. Just don't see a world in which they don't come back in some fashion, but that's just my guess we could be off. If there's one thing, the Kardashians are never going to do it's fumble the bag. Exactly. Okay. So can one court he were on kate and Oliver Hudson podcasts called sibling revelry and they bring on a bunch of different siblings, Erin Foster, and Sarah Foster Bamut etc.. It was so interesting one that it was Kendall Courtney and I. It's not the two that I would have chosen I think if I was choosing but after listening, I was really happy that it was the two of them because. According to the oldest Kendall is almost the youngest of there was that difference that was interesting to Jenner once internation-, there were so many different elements. But I want to start out and say, is you guys remember a couple months ago when? Kendall's on. James Corden and she was doing spill your guts or failure guts and they asked her rate your siblings from worst to best parents best parents and she rated courtney is last and I remember US talking about it in saying like. Yes it was a joke I'm sure they're fine with it, but also it just felt a little bit like, Oh, I don't know how they responded and it was the first time. They actually talked about in Kent and Courtney said I was so pissed like Kendall told her that she she was like. I was really Genuinely upset named works through and they were totally fine. But I was i. felt like I was Never GonNa get that insight from Courtney side about how she felt about that. So hearing that I was so like Oh, my God I was dying to hear what you thought about that. Well, that's why we were also saying at the time that it happened was the reason it was such a fucking slap in the face to Courtney. Is Because horny over the last couple of years has made parenting her durant like. If there's one thing that always always always tries to emphasize. That everything she's doing for kids and not that the other siblings aren't like that that's not what I need. But I mean that Courtney, you know really emphasize the fact that she's taking a back seat from all these business deals so that she can focus on her kids and being there for kids in doing experiences with our kids. So, for Kendall, specifically put her last. Diminishing all of the things that court is saying to the public with such a slap in the face where she easily could have put. Kim Or Khloe last and said, they're all amazing parents. This is just kind of fell in line and being conscious of like Courtney's going to be the most defended if I do this and back now that's why it was so interesting at the time. But. What was even more interesting is on this podcast, which she was saying was that she's like, I knew even Courtney said she's like I knew the she could have said Mir Khloe. Camera. Kylie would've absolutely lost it. Kendall must've known that mere khloe would have been the easiest to kind of tell that you did that in would have been the easiest to kind of brush it off whereas Kim and Kylie would have been lifted which. I thought was so interesting just to hear them both like fully agree like Oh. Yeah. Forget if we ever said that. Yeah it is interesting I. I still think she should have does not answered that I just I was hurt just in whatever bowl testicle was in front of me I know I totally agree they spoke about so many different things they played this really. Fun Game where they ask them like which would you go to for X. amount of X. kind of advice. So for relationship advice they both said Khloe but they were like, yes, it depends on what kind of relationship what type of issue were having but according to the thing with chloe's that she's the hardest she's going to give you tough love. She's GonNa. Tell you like it is when it comes to relationships in. I was so thrown off by that because I. Not like that's a little bit hypocritical for I don't necessarily mean that but I also exactly mean that. What do you mean you know? There are very few people I think that. That can give amazing advice and take that same advice from themselves. I think most people don't operate like that and that was something about chloe. The is spoke about a lot when we were doing the early episodes of Kardashians because there is the episode. Scott where Scott kind of had like a little cheating indiscretion and chloe came down show hard on him harder than anybody else was so upset wanted to cut him off never speak to him again and I still think that. In terms of the way handling relationships, I think that Khloe genuinely, you will say that she wants more for the other than than she wants for herself and that's why she's so hard on other people but I think that most people who give really amazing advice tend to not take their own advice. Yeah. No I guess. I. Agree with you I guess I just meant that I think sometimes what can happen with people is when they're feeling insecure about their own decision making me like let's use Khloe for example, let's say she was feeling insecure about the fact that she knows she was maybe receiving some judgment for getting back with tristen that she would not wanna then be hard on someone at fear. Of It like coming back at her kind of, but I guess with your family or so comfortable. That's audio thought process like it's different to give that advice publicly versus when your sisters coming to you in private right and also I think that something Khloe do in that circumstance is that I think chloe's really good at making situational when she is applying herself but very broad when it comes to other people. If she will, let's say somebody not Scott let's say somebody at cheated on Courtney. And her saying you be done with them, you need to be done with that might Khloe like this cut them off you want nothing to do with them. They cheated on you I think that if you were to serve that back and say, how can you say that based on your relationship with trust? Then she would be able to pick apart certain things. No, it's so different with us like we have a baby we have this. We went through this at the time. This only happens this extent like I think that she is better at. Giving advice that can't be justified to other people verses her ability to justify something to make ourselves feel better. Totally. Agree I also think the so they said for work advice did they would go to? Kim, and then they play this game or like if the show never existed, what do you think everybody would be doing and Courtney said that her end Chris, you know she was saying she was explaining to Kate Knowledgeable Academy and my mom's on this clothing source solution of sitting there like tell me something I don't know like it's So funny hearing her explain these things as part of her story because they didn't talk looking Oliver Hudson doesn't know the name of Christian Courtney's clothing store meanwhile I'm like, yeah it's in the same shopping centers dash. Right that's how funding. and. She was saying they would probably. Continue to have another store. She was saying that Kim would probably be a stylist. Kendall said, she would have hopefully gone to the Olympics for horseback riding and that Kylie they were like Yeah Kylie of course at the same platform for Kylie cosmetics but she was always going to do something in makeup like they said, it's the most fitting thing for her which I thought was a fun discussion. Also something that I guess I have wondered about two I think handled still model. I don't know she. I did not realize how. Much of a like horseback rider she was. Yeah, I. Yeah. I mean she was and I could see it being something that may she may be more seriously if she didn't if she had more time for it but I. I look at Kendall and I'm you were born tomato. Oh my God same she also, they spoke about Oliver asks like, okay. Well, you know if one of you to donor, who would it be an cannibals? I am one. As, she was like I don't think I've ever really said that publicly before but yeah, I mean I smoke weed I was just like I. Know You do but I love hearing you say it yeah me tell me tell. You honestly Courtney. was saying that her childhood was Leonardo Dicaprio and then they asked her if it was still an like. I don't know if she just didn't answer for just moved on, but you never heard her answer but I thought I love that like I love those little tidbits must be weird having a celebrity crush as a celebrity. Yeah. Demi Levato Zafy on say. Yeah. But when you're like Vasif celebrity, you have a crush on another celebrity is not just a crush is, does it not become a celebrity crush at that point is the High. School it's always close back of Ice Woah. Will become the feasibility just increases like it's yeah it's not a celebrity crush just across because crush because realistically that could happen. I love the idea of like being with a group of other celebrities and being like. So who do you like? Who's in your top? Who I like it anymore, it's so unfair. It was so good. I really talked about their upbringings than how You know like. Kennel were asking if she ever they ever watched the show in Kennels saying that she never wants his recent episodes, which is like if I'm looking through the channels in our shows on, I'll watch early seasons. She's like Salon you always say she was like for me and Kylie their home videos it's an I don't look at it as this produce reality show they're just home videos which I've always thought just hear her say it was I don't know there's something really really unique about hearing from her perspective specifically like her in Kylie's perspective. Totally totally that's so funny. Yeah, there. Does. So weird when they were talking about the the like OJ pardon and. Courtney was in charge. She said, I was in charge during the OJ trial organizing the male Oj's mail into boxes I had to do with when that's a lead hate mail in Fan Mail, because she was saying that for one summer, she was Christmas in it for one summer she was Roberts assistant and just talking about like how she learned so much from Adam I think this was an experienced in rob's assistant just. I. I can't even mind can't even wrap itself around that. Did, you ever finish watching the few versus OJ while we're talking about it. No fell asleep you have to watch these all I'd I literally like I am not, GonNa pressure you because I just know that the loss 'cause also I don't have like another eight months dedicated to getting you to watch something but I just want you to get to the point where it incorporates Kardashians in the beginning because it is such a fucking netto weird moment when there's like little actors playing young hard Ashton's chanting Kardashian Kardashian Kardashian when they see their dad on TV at the OJ trial it is a we're at I know it's acted, but it's still a weird experience. That's such. A bug out. It's a bug. Really about. Yeah that really is wow I. don't know I. I love this because I can't wait for you to listen it. was there was there was parts of it where I could just tell they were being really honest. They weren't trying and I think that just as. I mean is, of course, a compliment to kate and Oliver, but also is really just a compliment to podcasting in the medium of the way specifically, they do it. They don't do it as a studio there Atika there on couches. You could tell it was very casual. You could tell they were very comfortable with it and it's really different being like on a podcast versus being in a confessional right and. Like Kate Hudson was saying she get you know I have this friend anytime she just gets upset by something she just doesn't want to be phased. She says, I'm just GONNA Courtney. Kardashian it. She was saying that her friends definition of that is basically to say I'm not going to get bothered. Let it roll off my shoulder and. They were saying is that a fair assessment of your personality according like at? Times. Yes. But I definitely do freak out but Kendall and courtney were saying like, Kylie. So like that Kylie is so like whatever's meant to be will happen it is what it is very, very kind of go with the flow which. I don't know if that's something that we see much about Kylie's personality because she just not on the show as much I don't know what it is, but it was so funny they immediately went to Kylie for that. I actually see that so much with. Kylie. It? Jordan situation aside. In the recent years I genuinely can't think of something. where I felt like Kylie which genuinely bothered same, which is crazy. Love that for her love that for, of course, a lot of that comes with the luxury for lifestyle but they all. Listen was the difference at that point between a billion dollars or six hundred, million dollars like you're in the same level of. casualness with your lifestyle also, I don't think it comes from our money I generally think it's part of her personality. Yeah. Of course, money versus your average person. But I'm saying comparatively speaking with the rest of her siblings, of course, like the money isn't her stressor obviously but the thing about. Having money is that while lubricates a lot of things in life if your personalities to get overwhelmed and stressed about something, you'll just find something else to be overwhelmed stressed about yeah of course. Also unrelated from the podcast highly recommend everyone listening to that Caitlin spoke to entertainment tonight and she said. To us about Courtney Scott she said I hope can kind of get his act together. They've had all these kids together I think it's the best for the kids to have a mother and a father that's right there all the time. I. Don't know if that's ever going to work out Courtney Scott are both good parents whether they work it out for themselves for a lasting relationship I don't know that's according question. I mean. I'd like a mad at myself for how you want them to get back together. Like I can't. I, feel like I sound like a broken record said only WanNa talk about it can't tell I, think about July swear to God I want to I will I. Miss how I was like seven months ago I'm sorry I feel like Guy Influence this I don't mean. Don't be ridiculous. It wasn't you it was. It was. It was a combination of so few breaking up him in court spending more time together, and then ninety eight percent watching episodes of the Kardashians remembering what they were like. It's not right I promise. Thank you and Kayla speaking on not that it carries really any way, but it doesn't hurt the cause. Now, the idea of somebody that close to the family still feeling the possibility is there is a I'll take it for what it is. It's electrifying when you want from me. Nothing I want nothing from you. Guys realize that in today is Monday. So in four days from now, we will have watched and recapped keeping up this season holy fuck, whole Mike God. I no way. I cannot wait a like God. What else you want nationalize anything else? He thinks important dimension. I think that's it. There's some other little things that happened but I feel like. You, know what? We gotta just. Pick and choose right no. Drama. Zone. I love that. Okay. I can't believe I'm saying it but we will see you guys on Friday for our season I. Guess it season Nineteen Kardashian recap and I don't know is gone. I are still figuring out what we're going to drop. The Bravo auto that'll be Friday or Saturday 'cause I don't know how I feel about dropping to on the same day. Harper. Jerusalem about that but we will see and as always we love you guys. Thank you for everything in. This next fucking see here Julie I. mean. I know. God okay, we love you guys.

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"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one production available on Apple podcasts. And podcast one in Los Angeles Chris Tucker Fulcher bravery one and only famous rats Perez Perez Hilton speak guys welcome to E. P. H. Booker. He's Peres happy holidays. A Happy holidays. Oh my God there is so much I wanna get to not just celebrity stuff but personal stuff an update. We had teased. I did on the PODCAST. We had talked about it. I finally did it. I went to chick fillet for the first time. Oh okay I hated it now. Some people falsely accusing me of purposefully hating it or trolling them. That is not true. Oh I would not do that okay. I have to do that. There's no point in doing that. What because of their past anti LGBT history? But I gave it of a fair shot and I have multiple and very valid reasons for why I did not like it. I WANNA say hi Chimera sale the pack even though what do you want to say I love you. They go out of my room. Good goodbye sister. Put up by by by. There's a lot of chick fil A.'s. All what I'm getting at their popping up every five minutes you bring up. They did not have any chick. Fil A.'s. Near me anywhere in Miami. So a lot of people I would imagine have been to a chick-fil-a they're life okay. And some things. Apparently you don't know the first time you go which I don't know that that's not my fault like I didn't know this is what I should have gotten her. I go there all excited and hungry and I didn't know what to get so I thought well let me get. The basic did looks one and not the spicy one. And apparently you should not order. The basic deluxe should only order the basic because the basic the Lux comes with lettuce and tomatoes. Exactly you don't want that you just want to Chick-fil-a the regular chick you know that I actually told you that when we talked to my membership burst shape. I don't remember anything so if if having it that way does it enhance it the white you didn't sell it. Why even make that option for people? Well so people like lettuce tomatoes on their chicken sandwich. I don't but some people got that one and then I ended up regretting it because I I don't know if it was the lettuce or whatever but my main gripe with their main chicken sandwich they sell is I was expecting it to be crunchier crispy. It was soggy it was honky. I mean chicken was tender but it was Soghi than the second issue that I had was was there wedge fries. They only they only offer wedge fries but they were not good they sucked. They're like griddle fries or something. I think wedges whatever you call them what those whatever they are. I know what you mean though. Yeah I don't like those either and then people are like well you gotta get the dipping sauces and I'm like the dipping sauces taste. It's like shed if you ask me. I look I'm not a huge fan of that place either. I think it's a good chicken sandwich as fast food. Chicken goes but outside of that. It's like nothing. I've had much better telling me I needed to get the dipping and I didn't even see the dipping sauces. I didn't know what the dipping sauces were. All I saw. Were these matchup packets kits that my mom and I both felt like idiots. 'cause we were both struggling to open these fancy ketchup packets or whatever and also so call me old fashioned but when I go to a damn fast food place I want free refills and I want there to be Soda fountains accessible. Oh to me there. Were not apparently if you go to the cashier. You ask for a refill. They'll give you a free refill. But that's just going. I don't want that I wanted to be a Damn Soda Fountain there so I can get as many damn we as I want and not have to wait in line and asked for a refill was stupid and it sucked and I was like I'm not going to bother getting desert here because like many things that I am having so I think they're shakes are pretty good. They do a pretty good now. I've never had a bad experience At in and out in my life in and out smokes and chick-fil-a everyday sorry without question. There's no question there's no debating that but yeah I've been loving. The holidays has been enjoying my food. And I'll show. This is a bad thing. You know what this is not a you bet. This is really embarrassing. I haven't even spoken about this. I haven't smoked. I probably won't even make a video about this. My sister has been spending a lot of time. I'm at my house over the holidays and the other night it was like ten. PM and I was going to bed early. Because I don't have wild exciting life at the holidays and I can go to bed early. 'cause I'm not having tons of work to to to finish. Come on come on. It's ten pm going to bed and you know oftentimes before bad I should. I should have read to you exactly what she texted me. Hold on it ended the oftentimes before bed. I take care of business. You know as as somebody who has not had sex in a thousand years than my sister felt compelled to group chat me and my Momma MMA she said a tax to me and my mom. Saying you're saying quote do you. Do you close your curtains before bed. If not you can see everything inside the way it is now and I responded you can okay okay. She responds by saying everything l.. Oh well dear God I did not want to further the conversation holidays everybody. I still believe her well the fact that she told you know what I don't believe her she she's basically telling you without telling you what she saw. She didn't WanNa totally embarrass you. What that means is she was talking snooping? She wasn't snooping. She's saying she's just walking by and she can see I I and she's like wow interesting. You can see in his room. He'd probably should close as drapes and by the way I could see. You know I've already. I did that check years' ago like you can't really see anything and I think you probably did that. Check in the day no much different at night. Okay there's two things I have blackout curtains and then beneath the blackout curtains. There is like an Shane. Opaque Opaque thing. A A that. You can't see through you just can't see through it and on top of that opaque thing. I have a big Bush in front of my window. So you'd have to see through the giant Bush and then through the opaque thing. She may have like guessed what I was doing. But she didn't see anything. Okay but then like. Why did she have to see my mom that that's the best part because he wanted to barest you? Which is funny? That's not that's payback. Your sister probably has a mountain of payback. That she needs to get you for. Pay Back the Bitch Bitch is my my turn anyways. Speaking of Family issues. One time I don't know if I've ever revealed this before it's somebody related. Don't worry we're not talking about me. a friend of mine recently saw Brian Carey having dinner at at a restaurant with her children and it was one of those restaurants is open relate and they were having dinner after a midnight. Wow her kids are like eight years old. I think or seven or eight or something like that called me fucking old-fashioned which I am in many ways but I don't think eight year old should be having dinner after midnight and this is the part where I don't remember if I've spoken have I spoken about my hi Maria many connections before on the pot and I don't think so. No well let me phrase it carefully I had had in the past both nannies that that have worked for me and Nannies that interviewed that have not followed proper protocol. Meaning usually when. You're high-end Manny. You're not allowed to earn your highly discouraged from revealing any information about previous employers But Nannies also fucking love to gossip at Nannies are human beings and they talk at. I have heard so many sad horror or or stories about Mariah's kids and what their day to day life is and it just made me so bombed for those kids because in the future if if or when they are messes the only one to blame was Mariah like not just the whole staying up late thing which is their normal life. They have the worst nutrition Eating junk the worst junk food like every day. It's like Oh my God. My heart goes out to their kids. Do you think it's appropriate for kids to stay up past midnight on the regular and go eat at restaurants rods with their mother on the regular for midnight. I don't know what's appropriate but I know that artists keep funky hours that don't really make sense to the normal nine to five. Why people that adhere to those hours the workings of a Business Day? I mean even your day. Obviously you don't go into an office but you are a slave to the cycle of when everybody everybody else is putting out content. She's not she's a musician. She goes in when she wants to go in. And if that money is going to be passed down to kids they may. They always lived that way as well. So maybe it isn't that weird. I guess a the kids can have a normal scheduled. Even if you don't well I mean you would think that that it would be better for the kid but you know I'm not a parent I'm not gonna I'm not gonNA tell people how to parent their kids Sad do you wish that your double Chin just disappear those bags and puffiness getting a little worse. Every day with Jenna sells natural actives. A pure antioxidant base with no parabens. No chemical sense and no pharmaceutical Preservatives it's the clean luxury. Your skin deserves every day. Call Right now. The genucel jaw line. 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Oh and he got all upset because he wasn't having an overdose he just fell asleep while live streaming. And that's what happened. And then afterwards he asked his fans for money he started a gofundme me because apparently he doesn't have enough money to move so yeah last year. You predicted that this would be the year for doing LEEPA. And she had a good song here at the end of the year. But I wouldn't say it would have been the year you would have predicted. The song was a hit though. Yeah just doing well doing very well the better than any else singles. Well that's not surgery did okay. Yeah that was technically a Shawn Mendez Song do off. What else am I going to predict? I'm going to predict booker. Will Start Using Tick Tock in twenty twenty using it or watching it. I enjoy watch again. Creating content no seems too hard. It's not hard it's so easy everybody is going to be using Tick Tock in two thousand twenty if they're not yet already What else do you have any predictions and I can't think of any more focused on my work and trying to get my dad morning soft grounds if you'd like to listen on the radio DOT COM APP it's k. a. m. compe- amp radio? It's not off the ground already. Starting I'm only on thin. Do you have any resolutions. I don't really make resolutions. I'd like to WHO Maybe take better care of myself. I went to the doctor recently. I'm doing pretty well how I need to. I need to take more fish oil and I probably need to do more cardio but outside of that. I'm a pretty good shape. My liver looks good. Believe it or not which I was shocked about. But he's like now your liver function. Great like shocking. Yeah my resolution which I think I'm going to do is just to continue to spend less but maybe not about maybe spend less and be more present resent with my kids more even more than I already am. So there's that all right update last episode. Last last week we told you. Guys that channing. TATUM and Jessie J broke up recently. Well he is already already on a dating APP. He's nice found on that high end invite only vip dating APP riot riot. Or whatever the heck it's called Ray Araya. If I was a woman and started chatting with channing tatum I would just think I was being catfish rushed. Unless they're like verified on there and then if you are channing. TATUM and verified. I'd imagine you'd be getting so so many women hitting you up which is probably what he wants actually. Yeah that's actually probably exactly what he wants. I'M GONNA go. Anybody who listens to our show. Are you a part of riot. Are there verified accounts. Like I don't know I know nothing about it. I've never been on a dating site in my life. What never no I want? Oh Oh wow lucky. I was for a long time. An update to Theresa Giudici. Speaking of dating. We mentioned last week that she and Joe Giudice do dice. Whatever broken up recently? But they're gonNA remain married for a while she already has a new guy. She's been spotted with this new dude. Who is a normal person? Not a famous dude and I would say upgrade. He's a Hottie. Also an update. We mentioned a few weeks or a month or two ago. That had been reported. That rage against against the machine is going to be headlining. Coachella in twenty twenty won't it's now also been reported that the other headliners liners are travis. Scott and Frank Ocean. Wow I don't like the whole Frank Ocean like how somebody achieves six. I'm with you I just don't get it either like how somebody achieve success or cold status or get people's attention or whatever I don't understand understand it like he's a good musician but never had a single hit song to my knowledge and headlining. I don't get it to meaning that I could tell a headliner. But whatever good for him. I don't think it even matters who plays anymore. It's just about being there and having the outfit and hanging out and doing on drugs for three days I really don't even matters. Yeah Travis. Scott that's understandable to me. At least he's had hits. Yeah and he's huge. Yeah yeah he's had hits and he's huge yeah also Speaking of musicians and talking about journalists a couple of stories that I found interesting interesting. I we never got a chance to talk about this. But Star Wars actor Adam driver was being interviewed on. NPR very very reputable okay NPR's NPR. I don't think they ever have the intention of making anybody look bad or writing. You run that Adam driver actually and then after all this went down I was doing a little more research on him. Did you know that he used to be a marine. I did not no. That's cool good on him so I I wouldn't even call it a phobia. I don't know if it's a phobia but maybe it is. He extremely dislikes watching himself back in movies or even listening to himself back in the case of a radio interview so he got a bunch of movies out recently and and one of them. He sang a song. So the journalist Terry Gross was in the studio. I think in Boston and Adam driver was in New York and at that point they were gonNA play the clip. I think what was told was. They told him and driver to take off his headphones but instead of just taking headphones he left the interview. Right do you think that was diva inappropriate. Or what are your thoughts. If he said he didn't want to hear that he didn't want to hear that. They wanted to go ahead and do it that I think he had every right to leave. Doesn't owe them anything just taken his headphones off. Well he's got a fear of that he doesn't like it. You know who else was like. That was a Kim basinger. She could not watch yourself in films that would like physically make Section just couldn't see herself on the screen. Wow I did not know that I would think if you're a good actor like you'd be like a an athlete. Athlete like athletes love to look at their plays and analyze and try to find ways to improve. Sure sure I mean. Even as a broadcaster I listened back to all of my broadcasts. Everything thing I do with you I buy everything I do. I have to hear it back. You listen to your morning show every day back sure. Yes how do you listen to it back. Every day. It's recorded everything that I do was recorded. Oh God that's a waste of time. Yeah coming from someone that probably should watch back the crap that he puts out the boring s youtube audios. You put out there not boring. They're so boring. If you were forced to watch what you did daily you would cut everything you did into a tenth. Because you'd realized that it's the world has moved on from long form videos like that you only really needed to two minutes instead of the twenty that you provide. No one's watching that crap. You could give away a house at at the end of one of those. You'd never give away that house. That's not that that's so true. That's not the youtube culture there too long too long. That's all youtube videos youtube videos. Is there long anyways well. I thought that was inappropriate of Adam driver. I did not think that was cool and Also if any fellow journalists are listening especially those that work in radio Please please it has been done enough. And I'm talking to you too. If you get the opportunity to interview Selena Gomez and then he point in the next few weeks sir couple of months do not ask her a single Taylor swift question. I am sick and tired of hearing journalists ask. Selena Gomez mess about Taylor Swift at this point in her Promo Cycle. Everybody's already asked her about Taylor Swift. You're not gonNA come up with a new or original. Oh question that at this point hasn't been asked already and I'm annoyed that for her but also just annoying and bored and tired as a listener listener. I don't WanNa hear anymore Taylor swift questions. Selena Gomez I typically don't ask artists about other artists. I want to know about them. If I wanted to Taylor swift I'd sit down and interview Taylor Swift but I'm with you. I would never ask that. What a bore? Who cares all right in this coming year? We're just days away away. Princess Beatrice of the UK is supposed to get married and there are reports her embattled beleaguer meager Tainted Father Prince. Andrew is going to walk her down the aisle. Some are saying that he shouldn't some are saying. That's GonNa be a huge distraction. I'll start off by saying it's her fucking wedding if she wants him to walk her down the aisle he should walk. I heard on the isle. Ditto yeah all right there you go. That's what she wanted her damn wedding. That's what you do at your wedding. Yeah by the way. I finished season three of the crown and I'd said on the show before that I wasn't feeling season two I did finish season to finally it was okay season. Three is pretty good. It's a pretty solid watch so I'm back on the crown like in the crown ground. Good good good. I've got a not watch that I think you would love it like season one. I think you would just be so enamored. It's so good really. One of the best television shows I've ever seen season one of the crown. Well maybe my if I have a little bit of time actually I'd rather watch a movie. No you would like it. I'm serious I think he would like the fact that it's not so long in movie form. I just kind of blowing through an episode at your own will episodes will really stick with you and I think you like a lot a lot of that stuff. I really think you would enjoy. I do I wouldn't put you on a show. I didn't think you would like but I really think you would like to crown. I'm done I'm done to possibly I've got out well. Speaking of the Crown Prince's Beatrice is not letting her dad's drama get in her way. She just had an engagement party and EH. It was attended by many of her famous friends. Congratulations honestly honestly. Honestly we should have used a condom but we got distracted get tested for HIV. But honestly I'm afraid to find out honestly we've been together for a while so getting tested never really crossed my mind honestly no one wants to think about HIV. But there are things that everyone everyone can do to help protect their sexual health. Condoms are a great start. Get tested and ask a healthcare provider about all of your options because honestly our health is worth protecting find find out more at honest about HIV DOT com others teas that now I still got a few things to get to but later on in the show. We're GONNA play an old old interview between me and booker from I think two thousand seven. It's wild. Yeah so let's do a couple more things. 'CAUSE 'cause I we got show for you guys all right. Speaking of British People Kate Beckons sale is forty six years old and has a banging banging body banging banging and she reveals how she does it. She works out six days a week. She's working for it. As do I work out about six or seven days a week. No one asked yet. She also I was just people. Do Ask people ask me all the time this year. What are you talking about? Just give me the story so. She revealed that she works route six days a week. That's what it takes. And she eats a lot of chicken and eggs and Blah Blah Blah. Basically whatever you think you should. What do she does? However she doesn't drink any alcohol that's fine? I could actually do without that. She has no chocolate and no coffee. The fact that I could not I just I I would not not. I'd rather have not the perfect body or whatever it is not for me. No sereno thank you anyways. An update miley Cyrus and cody. Simpson still very much together. And according to Internet sleuths and reports they may be starting a band together. Names names bandit. And Bardo Majlis actually filed to trademark the name and take ownership of bandit and Bardo and they've already set up an instagram account for Bantu embargo which only followed Miley and cody. But then after it was leaked that they were trying China trademark the name now they don't follow anybody but is it a good idea ever miley Cyrus. And cody start a band. Why not sounds like a fun one off if they could go out and play small little Hollywood clubs just for Shits and giggles? Why not seems like it'd be fun? I would love to have a ban why not miley Cyrus has had a phenomenal. Aw career she was a pop culture sensation. It just bummed out that I saw so much more potential for her music career and she kind of killed it by making a lot of really dumb and weird decisions like after her bankers album. She released that awful druggy album with the guy from the flaming lips that killed all of the momentum and then she released another album but was it all that great and now she's released EP ease. That haven't really generated much attention like basically what I'm getting got is doing this band and music with cody. Simpson will basically just be putting the final nails in her musical relevancy career. I disagree I think that once you have talent you'll always have. She'll always have talent. I think music is going to change wherever it's going to go next. I don't know what it's going to be aware it's GonNa go or what turn it's going to take but I think if it turns towards the real and could take her talent in harness it where singer songwriters seemed to come back like that sound is dead right now. I mean this era of music is the shittiest I've ever seen in my life. It is just God awful. It's a terrible era and I think someone like her. That has talent. She's still young by the way. What does she like? Twenty six seven. How old is she pretty odd? Ah I think all eight twenty six. Let me look real quick. Yeah I could see her doing something of maybe of relevance but maybe not in the pop's spear she just turned twenty seven last. She stevie Nicks to me. I mean she's if music ever comes back. Real music ever comes back with real production and real producers and a in a real authentic sound she could be relevant. I until then. Why not have fun former band? I don't care finally before we get to that old interview you booker and mine. Hilary Duff congratulations. She just got married to Matthew Koma. They had a private wedding in their backyard but that she brought up something. Recently on her instagram stories. She was being in her words stocked or harassed by the Paparazzi. While she he was out with her kids. Do you think the Paparazzi should leave celebrities alone when their children. I personally do. I don't know what the law awesome says but personally yes. I don't think any kids should ever be in any publication. I think it should be illegal. Yeah I agree. I think when you're a celebrity and you're by yourself yourself okay. You're fair game but if you're with your kids that they're minors under the age of eighteen eighteen over like then that's a different thing. Yeah I think they deserve to have their anonymity. I don't think that splashing all over. The world is a healthy thing and well especially because like she was unhappy because she was trying to take your kids to do things things and just going about her business and they were following her around all day. I I really felt for her. So should we do the interview now and then a couple of questions after questions this is now and the interviewer. How are we doing this interview and talk during it? You know I'm just GonNa play the interview. It's long to set up. The interview came from my ex producer. Blair in Philadelphia. We were talking about this podcast and she said you remember when you had Perez and you guys were talking on the radio and I said I think you got that wrong. I don't think I've ever interviewed Peres before and asked for as he has no memory of it either. I don't remember anything ever neither one of US do. I don't remember doing it. I don't remember the questions Shinzo. I didn't have actually believe it existed. She sends me the interview. I'm like I'll be damned there. It is so back in two thousand six seven. We're not not sure. I think it was two thousand seven based on things you were talking about okay. A long time ago. Long time ago I interviewed Peres for my morning radio show in Philadelphia and well. Here's the audio. Here's what happened. It looks as if Kevin Federal Line did not know this was coming when he gets the news. It looks like he has no clue that he's being duct Perez Hilton onto vote. Peres good morning did I love you. Is that gay even get if not bad. I love off his website. He's always having fun hanging out with the celebrities and they gotta be nice to you now because you're right little snide comments about them on your website so threaten may like domain a pool. Jesse Metcalfe that he fantasized about killing me though. Yeah you know. Celebrities are crazy. And that's that's why the thoroughly entertaining before we even get to this. Britney Spears story I just want to find out gets a background on you. How did and by the way congratulations? He's in the New York Post. Today's one of the top five most influential Hispanics which is great -gratulations. It's awesome. Did you see the picture yet. Picture picture their addiction. Can we send it to him somehow. I'll email him later. Getting more atmosphere. And how did we get. This website started. How was it born? Aren't where do you get the pictures. Set me up from the beginning. Well I was working as a journalist before I did the website and I had a lot of free three times because I was working freelance or a bunch of different publications and I thought it would be easy and I thought it would be fun and I think those are the two key ingredients and I think awesome. That's why so many people that blogging. I apologize if it's outside of them. They coffee shop that I go to every day. But even open yet street tweet on Fairfax all his cars driving by. I thought it'd be easy and fun. That's the reasons why so many people. Aw blogging now. Because it's really empowering about it and creative and inspiring you can go you can sign up for my base log or the friendster. Your loss spotted blogger. Logger whatever you customize some templates and in less than five minutes you're communicating the entire world right awesome. Here's my prediction. I predict you're going to be working and if I was like an entertainment tonight or access Hollywood I would dump all these slumps. They have on the show. I would hire him in two seconds because he knows these people he parties with these people to get the best last access. I think I think someone's going to buy his site like a a yahoo for like billions of dollars and I think we're talking to a future multimillionaire. Yeah that's what I honest honest to God. I believe amazing no. I'm surprised someone hasn't like approach to yet to do that. Because they have no now not not like anything that I would seriously consider. I'm telling you this guy's a future multimillionaire. Someone will will pay him for this site because it's a great aside and then talking billions. Actually I just wrote about this yesterday. Thank you Britney Spears my busiest day ever. That's great these days. I've been hovering about two point. One two point two million yesterday it was well over two point. Five million people RETREADS HILTON DOT COM in one day. Then read US Weekly and Star magazine combined in buying. And that's my point. I'm trying to make this guy's a future future billionaire. Somebody's GonNa buy this site. Just let him do what he does and make him rich. It's a great site but let's let's get away from that for a second. Let's get back to Britney Spears what do you know what have you heard. What could the inside inside scoop? What do you think about all this? You Know I. I'm very shocked that the divorce happened late a long time ago. I mean really and I think it probably would have happened a long time ago. Had it not been for the new babies remember back in around spring time in I think around on March or April There were tons of reports in Kevin were continually fighting in fact she even went to Hawaii and spend some time ended by herself. You know But then she it's. They didn't divorce and no announcement was made. We later time because she was pregnant with from you maybe And and everything is you know Britney is talking loudly. She's like many on a message to everyone. Should like dropping all the baby fat and the Dead Weight Right. He's got to go and I. I mean it's bizarre. I don't think that normally people would wish a marriage urge to break up but it seems like the general public wanted Kevin to be overweight guys loser and everybody knows he's a loser and it's kind of it. Feels like he's just kind of hopping happen on for the ride and boy he's just suck every ounce of whatever he could get out of it out of her. Listen it. It's not like a Chris Judd situation. We're look he was a backup dancer so you know what he did. He choreographed choreographed and Jan afforded her. The opportunity afforded him the opportunity to do things like that. It's not the same with Kevin Fact. He's starting record companies. He's on tour. He's all of a sudden Sunday's artist he's never met before and his life shut up out of our face tour maybe cancelled. I'm hearing and in fact he has performance tonight in Chicago outright. Giving away free tickets. It'll be nothing but press and Paparazzi pictures that's it I'm battle title and I don't feel that bad for him because according to the Free Knob and everything he's probably GonNa make at least ten million dollars the divorce you've got to be kidding. Me Ten mil yeah. He gets half of the sale of their Malibu Mansions which is valued. Oh you to well over ten million. At least five. He gets thirty thousand dollars a month for the half time they were married so they married two years. He'll get thirty thousand thousands thousands of next year he also says Evening about two million from that reality show that in Brittany did for UPN. The end chaotic and for some reason decided to be nice and give him all the money that they made for the sale of the wedding pictures and the baby pictures from someone who made less than thirty thousand dollars in two thousand and two now getting thirty thousand a month for the next year. That's not that Bill Gates. I mean young smart. Take this but that's why everyone doesn't like it because now we know he's rich. He's walking around with her. That she made just makes me crazy. What do you think is what do you think is next for having federal and business? It's going to be a thing where we're never going to get rid of him. Even though his album clopping miserably. Now got the money to stay in our face whether we like it or not. He will always be celebrity now in our culture and he can use that to you. Know the House the Party in cloud or beyond the surreal life or some other reality TV show federation records off the ground unbelievable. What check out his website? It's Perez Hilton Dot Com. I really did. I really think you've got a great site. I like when he writes Steve. But you little comments the caption to the picture. He writes guys that are good looking. He's like Yummy. You're funny guy for us. Thank thank you very much. Thanks for having me on any idea. How many albums? He'll sell week one. I know we'll find out later today. But do you have a ballpark on that by any chance. Yeah Yeah you can go to like Amazon Dot Com and see that his Album isn't even in like the top one hundred. That's horrible. That's all that promotion and you can't get in the top one hundred I love it. You're the best day we'll be right back all right well. That was a blast from the past so flied chemistry. We thought we had well. We have great chemistry back and this is even before you started filling in for Carson. Daley on am I would've thought that are Carson stop. Was the the first time that we'd ever spoken to one another and I would have sworn to it. We both had no idea but there it is. I love the me too. Well all you guys. What a year it has been? We appreciate you so much wishing you and yours the happiest New Year get I want you it guys to get so wildly ended up Perez Hilton Dot Com. Right get crazy and we'll see you guys in January right around the corner during the season of giving being we'd like to offer you a little something special and all we're asking in return a few moments of your time. We need to complete a short survey because your opinion in matters to us and helps support the show. 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37:42 min | 6 months ago

Hilton Carter Brightens Homes With Plants

"An ideal world for me would be. The opposite of if you've ever seen the movie waterworld where the whole world's becomes water. It would be lush. Land throughout the entire, the entire world would be lush land obviously water, because we need it, but everything that we're seeing right now. It comes to like the burning of all of these different forest and wildlife and things that H in climate change by Philip the I get so much out of. Being able to walk into a space that's surrounding the ingredients just to have that moment. Step out and go into that. Take your socks and shoes off and put your feet and grass regardless of his January on this summer. Just have these moments pockets of goodness throughout each city each building. Each area where you can. Reset! Recharge your battery shutdown. Recharge. And start back up like that would be my preference. I'm Kimberly drew and you're listening to your attention. Please a Hulu podcast with iheartradio. I love scrolling through Hilton Cardis instagram feed its picture after picture of luscious green, inviting airy spaces, full of plants, windows and perfectly placed art. Hilton and his presence online is all about design, beautiful interiors and brilliant aesthetic touches. But the truth of the matter is that plants are living and breathing things, not just props or set pieces, and he'll tell you in a heartbeat that you shouldn't just go out and buy plants. You won't take care of and because he has hundreds. Yes, I say hundreds of plants. I can tell you and I think it's abundantly clear that he knows a thing or two about how to take care of them. I am a proud plant, mom. I have been growing plants and housing plants now for just over a decade I am the proud owner probably of about. Let's say seven and a half plans right now. I think that plants are incredible in so many ways but mostly because plants allow us to check in on ourselves on a day to day. They charge us with challenging. Ourselves to see time. if you've neglected your plan, your plan starts to Brown. How brave or you to step in and say Oh, I've been neglecting my plant and now is the time to save it. A good friend of Mine Mercer Hall Actually wrote about this and I think about it often when I look at my plants when they need to be clipped or pruned or cared for. It's always a reminder for me to slow down and think about the care that I can Administer to myself and I think that especially in this moment that pausing taking that time for care and checking in and assessment, is incredibly incredibly important. And so learning about Hilton Carter the plant King Plant Daddy you know. So, many other names I might have just made up on my own but Hilton is such an inspiration I think to so many plant parents out there so if he could have your attention, please our guest today Hilton Carter. I'm Hilton Carter and I am a plant stylus. Artist. Do you ever because I have such an emotional connection to my plants where I feel a lot of shame with my plants I fill out of love from plants like. Snake plant right now that. I think about all the time because the baby is on its last leg and it's the easiest thing I know. It's such an easy plan. You guys don't see the faces that I'm getting made. No Hey I want. I want to know that. I'm not walking. Any was basis judging them based on their plans I might go up to their plant and talk to it just the work through. Those emotions, but I would never judge therapy plant, plant, therapy, one hundred percent, and for me IT IS A. A concern when I see plan I just had a conversation earlier today. I can't. I cannot help when I'm around the plant to not touch it. Touch it after put my physical presence on that or the on my my my print on that particular plant, so when I see a plant struggling. It does affect me so. I talk a lot about creating. Bonds with the living. things that you're bringing into your home. Whether that's a pet. Over, whether that's a plant and I feel like a lot of people. Understand the idea that when they make the decision whether to get a cat or dog There's a lot of. Research or thought in that decision. I work a lot I travel a lot. I'm I'm a new podcast that will take me all around the city the city should I get a dog at this moment in time maybe I can get a cat. It's easier to take care of so I feel like a lot of people don't think of that I just see a plant. Like it, they think the foliage is beautiful or sexy, and they weren't bring that thing home shallow they'd be. About the life the fact that greenery is living is living things that you're bringing into your home so whenever I have an issue with a plant. I take it to heart and I. Talk a lot about naming your plants, and I feel like once. You create that bond like you create that bomb with your pets. Then once you see your snake plant start to have issues. You're like I got to figure out what to do with Jimmy or Sarah or whatever you name in his plan. Because it's more, it's now become you in that plan, and you want to figure that out so creating that bond allows you to have A. A A bigger I would say. Hold on. Wha, what's necessary to then care for your going out of your way to make sure that when you leave town? Someone's going to take care of this plant versus hope it still here when I get back. Also, that's so. As far as As, far as seeing green in having an emotionally affect me. It really does take a toll on me. When I see plant struggle, I will say that and I think it's important. and I don't know skipping too far ahead, but when it comes to. A lot of the. I would say. Benefits that people talk about when it comes to bring him plants into the space and living amongst them, I think a lot of people talk about how it cleans. The air and space feel more warm and vibrant and I love to talk about that stuff, and it makes you feel so much better as positive energy. That's happening there. I think that can also go the other way if you are. Going now insists over Just. Going beyond your means in need in light in your space, and just bringing as many plants in as possible, and then if you, if you are mostly attached to some of these plans or just you just have a heart. You'll feel a bit bad. Once you start to see these plants struggle so now you're putting yourself in a position where? The the thing that you're bringing into your home to make you feel good is now making you feel bad. You know so. That's I. Mean That's how. That's how passionate I feel about at this very moment in time, there's no shame. It's real I have I think just past the like. And Mark on plants. My mom has somewhere near like thirty and I started to worry after a while. And then I saw your video was like. This person has three hundred. Chill, I'm going to let her do her. Thing. propagating. They're all so happy doing it. I'm like go off. But also like I'm like. Walkway in the house. Can you talk a little bit about what it was like to work on the film on your attention, please? It was such a brilliant. Peek into your space and the work that you're doing. What was it like to to bring that to the world? Working on the film was. Basically! Everything that I've been going my most of my adult life when it comes to filmmaker game, so if you, if you wash my episode, you're here in the beginning. How I talk about when people at at this stage in my life will see me in the streets, and they'll go. Oh, my God, your plan do. And an earlier part of that process when it, why would I start to hear that I would struggle with it because I have been known as filmmaker for so long. That when someone called me plant guy or the plant, dude or no you from plants. I. Don't know like I felt like it. It. Made me feel like the thing that. I was striving to be into into and create myself to be in and to put out. There was being diminished, so I would always passed off I. Know I'm I'm actually filming. I don't know what are you saying? Exactly, they're like no. You something. Man I'm like I guess My wife had to sit down with Lake. No one knows what you're talking about like. You're known as like for plants right now, so just go and let that be it absolutely love. It's interesting. And of course this is a podcast that is largely wrapped around telling black stories and really integrated in talking about black culture I wonder if you could talk about why it's important, especially for marginalized people to be thinking about how to make our spaces more beautiful, or even to talk specifically about what it means to live with plants, and how that might be beneficial to like us for sure I think. For me personally it's. Added A. An understanding a element of While was like before I had plants and I had something to tend to. Maybe I wasn't as nurturing as I am at this very moment. And I felt like it not only gave me a focus. It put me in a place that. Made me more aware of my surroundings in how I care for. Others in general so the time it takes to. Understand a change or nuance that is is is leaning from from one side to the other where a plant is has has gone from. Being healthy to now having issues. Seeing, then taking note to that and making schedules and being Being present aware. I push all of that all of those lessons. In relationships with others, friends family, my wife, it's it's helped me become a lot less stressed used to be so stressed out. I feel like it has given me a platform to talk about. How to make your space come to life for one, but also how to make you feel at home. To make your space feel like we were saying earlier more vibrant, more warm more more. More, you, you know and I think we're all especially coming from where I come from a lot of folks I know like living in city environments. There's not enough out there, not enough greenery out there to. Support what's? Can help someone become more creative to make them. find that moment of meditation or or then so they can just zone out and I feel like a lot of that from me happens in the care process when I'm watering my plants. I am. All in on what is happening at that very moment I'm not checking my phone. Not Own a computer. It's just me in that plant in what's happening right there and I feel like that has been so beneficial in every other aspect of my life. Yeah, what a gift! That is those moments where you're just like his just me and you. That's an in the same thing that's I mean like before this I've had many relationships and they just didn't work out. How is it that as soon as I decide to be fully involved in plants and make the decision a year later. I foun- the person that would become my wife and all those lessons. I've I just realized that it works the exact same way for those people in your life that you care about? You see those those dead edges. You Might WanNa burn them back a bit. You might want to pay more attention to what. Is happening there. You might want to like I. Tell people all the time like. It's a living thing. It will respond to positive feedback. Right, say something Nice. Don't treat it. It's interesting I was thinking. You know just to circle back to that point of thinking especially about marginalized folks and plants, and you think about especially urban environment I grew up in Jersey I grew up in a space. That's was very suburban, but also. There it's it's still feels like there's especially growing up in a more urban environment. There's not as much conversation about the importance of growing up growing with beauty or being in modified spaces. I think a lot about the architecture of someone like Sir David Agyei. Did the sugarhill project like that? It could be public housing and also be beautiful. Right that there can be spaces that we live in, and they're also has to be a principal around beauty. For, a form of whether that's care as you're talking about like the desire to care for your space is something that can imbue a sense of pride and self confidence. But I think we don't have those conversations enough. Well. I don't think that we're exposed to it enough. Right Like I said My. Mother had some want to make the space look. Cool in her eyes Um what she was doing she was she. She felt a sense of pride when people came over when I was growing up like there was a lot of plastic, still covering furniture right, so you had the one room that was off limits. And I feel like there wasn't like I would never have thought I'd be where I am now. Twenty years ago at all when I was a kid like. You said what my job is whether you could said interior stylish interior decorator whatever I still have known what that was. You know but for me. I feel like once. We decide once we decide to make. Where we spent so much of our time. Apart of who we are feel proud about that particular space, and and make the effort to make decisions. On the pieces that were bringing in for me, it was A. Moment where I decided to start bringing in pieces into my space and I now call like forever pieces things that I thought were. We're going to travel with me from space to space, not just picking up a table. Because now we need a table. It's what which particular piece of furniture speaks to me. Into who I am in. What's the story behind it or how can add to my story? There's a lot of stereotypes about plant people Towfiq. Okay. perhaps more introverted or perhaps. The outside world might be too much or perhaps you're walking around hugging trees and your day to day life. I, wonder if you could talk about. Your relationship to plans. Are You, are you? Do you. Do you believe in the stereotype? Should we believe the hype? Should we give you more room well? I don't know who put this stereotype out there. If you talked to anyone who knows me definitely extrovert, but I'm probably low key or have introvert. Tendencies. Bites at the end of the day like I'm I'm all about from what I said earlier. I'll I'll hug the tree, but you're not gonNA find me. Find me like walking up to a tree hugging but I will. You will find me in certain particular spaces where I see something that is. just jaw, dropping and stand there and just look before can just stand and look at any sort of grant, green life, and all of what it is, and I want to touch it. I want to take it in I have to find after take a step back when I'm in lake, nurseries or conservatories and try to take it all in for one, but also got stopped myself trying to take any of it home. Yeah, whole but I don't. I'm not. I, don't think I'm your typical. Plant person either right like I'm not I'm no a lot of these people that are the all all the stereotypes you're talking about. There are a lot of them out there and I. Get to meet a lot of them. Yeah, like the this community of plant, loving people is strong and getting stronger. Every day feels like I believe your mom is on board with. Gang! There it is. Feel like I. Feel like there's there's so many different types of plant people so. There are stereotypes that are say true, but a lot of us is just super excited to ambush. People should be super excited to talk about their passion. If that passionate about it, you want to stand. On the top of a mountain yell about it, you WanNa. Tell, people. Here's a plant. Put it in your home you need. This is so great and I feel like that argument because when I first started. At friends come to my house and they will do is going on here. Why do you have so many plants? This is little awkward, my mom. was like no one light will. No, one's going to like this. She's like no one's GonNa like this. This might be too many plants like I. Don't know I, don't I? Don't like it feels cluttered. I don't know. And every moment every time something happens. New York Times article. Who'll situation this park? Anything comes up first thing I'd do is send it to my mom and so many cry laugh emojis because she was the one, and she was the one in in in this one of those things I'd like to talk to people about as well is. When you believe in what you're doing. That's all that matters, yeah! The people who want you to not? Go after what you want to achieve can be the people who love you the malls. Yeah, my mom loves me the most. she's in competition. My wife but I will say my mom loves me the most. Yet there's a Lotta Times in my life, I've had to tell her. I know. What's best for me and I see it? And just had to just go. Yeah, so a lot of times I feel like a lot of people find themselves. Listening to others too much. because. If I would have done that. Four years ago. The time I dislike I'm want to have a side hustle as an interior stylist plant stylus. While I work in an AD agency. People been like what you need to focus on. Being a filmmaker in this thing, that's that's just. A hobby right can have a hobby. But for me it changed, it changed my entire life. So now we're like a little bit deeper into the conversation I can bring out my dad joke. Do you. Have any plant peeves any? I love. It taking it. Alan persons free. Plant these men I'M GONNA. That's my next book. Doing. Not Really What is it? Let me let me think on this. One of my plant. Not that you asked now, we're here. Is Is of course the ways in which people project on instagram about their plans like I love I love my my children all equally we struggle. We go through some stuff I. will I I got a new plant actually this week? I have a subscription now with A. Plant livery which is Great It actually I do love it because I. don't trust myself enough to pick new plants. What I know I don't because I just I'm like I'm stressed by all plants. I don't like this at all. I know it's really sad, but I just got a new plant named Farah I'll. Do they name the plan for you now? I I did a poll. Okay, okay, awesome named those. Fair Fair feels really good. She's like wiggly leave and put her in light. It gives you the instructions also like. Put it here, water at the force of course. the last one I got was a CACTUS. which feels really good, because it's a once a month water moment I'm like water, you pay rent either news. But my plant peeve is is the people on the Graham like of yours. It's great I know the you're on a journey like I. I watched the videos I trust that all your plans or actually being taken care of, but there is something that happens with this instagram versus reality. People out here in these streets pretending they're taking care of their plants. and I wonder. If for you as a as a educator, right like your lover, but also at educator how you can test with being in that space. Does it ever way on your the way in which you're sharing your story? I love everything you just said. Besides the online shopping for delivery. No I mean everyone has their place for that, but. Is Funny because. I talk about the idea. Of! Bringing in way too many plants for your space, and for you yourself the time that you have the care for it a lot. Because I feel like right now more than ever. We're talking about social media. It is it is a space for foam is to real. So. I know my spaces full of plants. Then I feel a bit. Of a burden because I feel like a lot of people get inspired by that. And then they rushed to. Push a ton of plants into their homes. And they don't have the time the the knowledge of how to care for them, so there's a lot of. Struggle that's happening a lot of plants who are dying because of this process in. The. Is it do it for the Graham? That is the real thing I've ever seen? Personally because? There were moments. I will say this. Is that when you were talking about earlier? Is like the you say this. You know what, but it's the realist thing I can say. There were moments working on this second book. That a lot of that came to life and a lot of the people that were a part of the book, some some of them who featuring a book or because they. Felt the kinship with them, and knew they had a kinship with their plants in their space, and they were really going after there are a lot of others that were opposed to be a part of this book. A cool, day really make the book per se because when I got to the space wasn't what? was promised. Visually, shade the plant shave. Yes, love. It was a bit of I. Put this here. For the Graham Are these plant. All these plants don't normally are all the plans that you had in that post. Can't live in this space now that I'm seeing it 'cause. There are no windows here so. That was the thing that we were trying to take a photo of for the book. But I can't do that here now. Because it's not, it's not reality is not going to work. I can't tell people like this isn't about. Doing it for the Graham. This is about making people spaces come to life in really showing people how to do that and I feel like that has been something that I've tried to talk about because. It isn't a race to three hundred plants. It's not a race Tut thousand plants at the end of it. There isn't a gold thumb. Right like you're not getting an award for having the most plants, but I think. Possibly a logical think that that's what happens. Foul count is the reward. I get the Marshall Space all the plants I have. Keep getting that thumbs up that lake to comment on that that follow so that people. Are are on board with me. Now approve of what I'm doing and I feel like that has when it comes to. Bringing wife and to your space. That's when I. That's one of my plant. House! You've got me you found that. I love it. So this is the part of the episode where we have a few questions from our Hulu subscribers. Who have watched your segment on your attention, please now streaming on Hulu and come up with their own questions. Our first question is from Ayla and North Carolina Ayla. How do you balance your passion with self, care and or spending time with those you love? A great question, it was definitely something where i. Kinda lucked out. So when it comes to caring for my plants, but also putting the time in with my wife. my plants take about four to five hours a week to care for and in that week a lot of that in a lot of the time on particular weekend day and I. Am blessed with the fact that I have always. Slept for about four to five hours and have been good with it. So I wake up early and I do all of the plant stuff. Early in the morning and my wife just happens to love sleeping. So she doesn't get out of bed and I feel like for me. It's making sure that you set that schedule like it is. It is time for me to tend to plants here your schedule and then for the rest of that day. That's for. Whomever. Our next question is from Greek in Georgia. Who has inspired you? In Life in general. Tariq. Three. Three I would say. I've been inspired by so many people I mean as an artist. I went to college. Grad school I feel like for me. Across the board is been artisan general now when I talk about artists, it's like in filmmaking a lot of us. Talk about how We we I were I. Guess we I found filmmaking and I would say am in my household like spike. Lee was like one of the rectors where my mom made it known to me. This guy's a black guy making this phone I remember hearing that. I was excited about that so when I first saw school days. I was like wow like I. don't know what it's like to being college, but. This feels while this feels like a lot like crazier than I thought. College would be, but during that time as well. Never really thought about college like Gucci Yourself going to jail before you start yourself going to college so for me. That extra escape was knowing that someone like spike. Could do. This, thing. In my make something and be like in the world creating. This art. That's different than what I wanted to be at that time like as a kid. I wanted to be a cartoonist I wanted to be the next. Walt Disney saw thought about was like I want to make cartoons. Um so when it comes to filmmaking I feel like that was my first initial like inspiration when it comes to film, but as I got older like it changed until like French new wave, and all the directors there and then like Bergman. was someone who I thought Really great way of creating compositions that told a lot just by the framing itself, and I was super excited about that when it comes to bringing plants into a space. I'm inspired by what I see in a lot of the. Buildings in construction that's happening in Singapore. and. Our last question is from a Lia in New, York. Who are your mentors? Have those relationships influence your trajectory. Mentors I will say you know what I'm GonNa. Say This Justyna. From the jungle. she has been one of my biggest mentors in this space, because in a space where I'm dealing with learning new things how to how to take a partnership with a brand who wants to put out a planter with you? How do you have those conversations where you go about making a deal work? What does it mean to take something that? You are super passionate about in create a business behind that. She's always been super influential in that element but and In that respect, but she always makes time for me. Someone that she just knows via like the phone I guess and social media, but she'll make that time to talk me through whatever I'm thinking, and whatever issues that I might be having with a particular project in an let me vent, and she'll give me like super Detailed information that won't allow me to take that next step in to not be afraid to do so so she's been great shot mentors that take phone calls for sure. And now we're at the part of the show where there are no more questions. Skit to sound off on something that's on your mind something that's kept you up at night or wakes up in the morning or Something that you'd like to put to bed. But two minutes. Two minutes all me I mean. I think spoke a lot of the things. They're nothing the one. When it comes to plants in bringing in greenery and people, going out and buying plans is to know when it comes to social media that. A lot of it is everything isn't exactly what it is made to be there. My House the images that I-. I post and the things that I do. Aren't just based on a particular plant amount of plant. Some of it. A lot of it is based on the bone structure of my apartment. See what I'm saying like. There have really large windows which can push a lot of light. The space was A. Me To have more plants. there are there have really nice hardwood floors which allow me to take great photos of these force, because they reflect really nice and light and I have really high ceilings. Everyone doesn't have that, so it isn't always just going to be abundance of green. That's going to make you feel better about yourself or that. You're a part of. The Community of plant lovers. It's just gotTa be about what works for you and what makes you feel good? If that number's four plants cool so being the numbers of thousand plants. I hope you have no other job. But to care for those plants, but. Just I don't know just just be mindful that you're talking about. Life. Over the course of my conversation with him I felt many many things I think Poulton. Story is an incredible one, because it has so many twists and turns so many moments of Discovery so many moments of him, coming into his adulthood, and learning that plants were such an important path towards that towards self respect towards being more caring, and so I think for me it was an incredible, emotional, rollercoaster learning, more and more about plan, care, plant investment, and what it means to say, goodbye to plants because you spend so much time with them after today's conversation. I one feel guilty which I always. Maybe not what Hilton intended but it made me think about all of my plan. Babies at home that I miss It made me think about how I went astray from talking to them, I used to talk to my plans. All the time and life has gotten so busy that I've forgotten to take time to do it. and so I, think that today it reminded me that maybe I need to spend more time with Dolores and Layla and Cleo fees, and all the ones that I haven't quite named yet. Maybe I will go home. And I will name some more of them i. hope that anyone who is out there and living a savage lifelike me or like I was I should say and maybe taking care of their plans, but maybe not taking care of them as well as we can. I hope that. This conversation inspires you to take a beat to take a moment to check in with your plans to check in with yourself. To water both your plans and your own soul, which sounds so cheesy, but it's so true. So That's all for today, but we'll be back next week with another episode until then. Don't be afraid to find what you love. Share with the world. 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38: MONEY TALKS with guest Prez Hilton

Adulting Like A Mother Father

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38: MONEY TALKS with guest Prez Hilton

"On everyone. Is Direct Message Network at podcast one production. We're directly to your favorite. Teams like mother father, thanks for tuning into learn more. We applaud you sit back. Relax so baby. Keep pushing while we have a couple of labs may begin later Mushy, but don't forget to take a deep breath, don't me? Housing towns to take the next day. Pick the right food pulled. Over Nova. Do statistics show. That you bobby urged say. Now, she's all grown up and got a baby. Boy's name is Dan. Joe where tribal three. Communities Come. Ago. Low adulterers welcome back to adulting mother father I'm Daniele Monet them other. Andrew Gardner, the father and we're both adults, and if you're an adult or just trying to be one the show for you. Wow let's jump in. We've got some adulting wins and fails for you guys. Do you WanNa? Start or do you want me to start I'll start. Okay, go for. The win is easy. On Sunday we took a little family trip out to Malibu and hit the beach and there's a few parts to the win that I love one. In L. A., everybody knows even even right now with the stay at home order. People really aren't staying at home, so you get on the road even on the weekend. They're still traffic below story short. We left in the morning at like nine fifteen, which is like his nap time so a. we left in perfect time for that, so he slept on the way out there. Be We were out to Malibu by like ten in the morning. which was amazing because it's like? When you're in a beach town, and it's the morning and it's overcast. It's a whole vibe. We hit this little farmer's market, and then we hit the beach and we were at the beach, chilling by like what? Ten forty five eleven. Yeah, it was amazing. Oh Gosh, take me back. We just needed a day like that. We haven't been in the beach in. I don't know I mean you went the de. But before that it's been months right. I couldn't tell you how long ago yeah, so that was. Lovely what's your fail? My fail is kind of a funky one. I think everybody can relate to this so. We have some stuff that like sits out in the backyard. That like we get out to us once in a while like for example we have this little tent. For Jia that we would go out there and get underneath or get in like all. It was sunny in the afternoon or whatever, but this little. All you do is folded up. Put it back in the bag and folding up is a whole different story because it doesn't doesn't work. Free. For everybody, nobody can fold this thing. I'm able to fold it the votes to figure eights, but it's not. Figuring figure seven, which doesn't make any sense and that's why doesn't fault. Okay, but the fail is this. We, all have stuff that we use and just lays around and your. We'll just look at it. For like a few days a week. This there's just pure laziness at the end of the day. We all do it and we finally put this thing away. After two weeks. The worst three weeks said to you, Hey, can I put this tent away finally and you were like well. It's dirty and I said okay, we'll. Why don't I put it away? And then when we take it out, we can clean also lazy. I wasn't gonNA. Hose it off and then wait for it to dry and then put it away. I scraped off some of the book, and then I folded. It didn't sky did. There was orange on it. Would you scrape it off tree? My fingers rose. Why Gross and that is an adult move? The adult move is to clean off before you pack it away, Sharon, but it was nighttime. I was in my slippers. What was the morning? Wasn't I know you were in the garage? It was nighttime. What where's your memory gone? Okay Dad Brain okay. I can't even get started. anyways Kay. I'm going now my. Win was okay. I was GONNA say the beach because it was absolutely epic, but I'm going to actually pull my. Beach Card from the day before. Are you guys ready for this. Listen closely here. I had a girlfriend who is one of the co? Founders of sugar TACO. Invite me to Nobu in Malibu. which restaurant on the beach not Vegan, but has a ton of options. It's a Sushi Restaurant beautiful place I'm sure you guys heard about on the why acting like you know Nobo-, everybody knows. Done Okay Shush so I for like. Twenty four hour I committed to going okay, but for twenty four hours the fail of adulting week was that I went back and forth for twenty hours whether or not to go, because it would have been the first time that I had dined at a restaurant with people who I haven't quarantined with because we went to one restaurant months ago, but it was with you like you and Gio, and then my aunt and uncle, who we've not quarantined with, but they were going to bogies and Westlake. Oh yeah, but like I know what they've been doing. And they have a newborn and their families before outside experience to also outside, but still so anyways for twenty four hours I went back and forth drove myself crazy and then ended up going. It was outside. It was beautiful. I could cry. Because I just had the best time in the entire world, we had the most amazing. Here I won't cry no I have. No tears left to to ramped right now. But, oh, I needed that and so of course I came home and was so grateful that I had that time to go and do that that the next day I was like. Let's go to the beach and you're like. Let's go, and then we realized like we're supposed to be by the water more often. The Not so we need to make a better habit of doing that. We're lucky that we get to live by the ocean all within a drives away. And, so my goal is, it's a lofty one, but it's not because the whole thing is to set a goal. Our goal is to have a beach house in the next like conservative amount of years. It's. It's mind so it's now. You. What's my works? Or do not want this beach. Houses a lot. 'cause I'm about to get one. You're going to get one. Yeah, okay? And you can stay there I appreciate it. Just, give me a little bit of time and we'll get one. Okay, so I'm just going to be chilling over here. Yeah just waiting on the Beach House that's fine. Mark my words. What Day is it? It's July twenty eighth. Technically because that's the day that the up so comes out. We're filming this on a Monday. So it's July twenty seven? If you want to be real specific, but if you guys are listening I, am telling myself I'm going to give myself I WANNA say three years, but I might give myself for years to make this happen. Is it three or four? Threes my lucky number. So three years, so the summer of Twenty Twenty Three Three Years Beach House. Yes, you're doing it. It's Your Beach House. Come to. Good. Learning a lot on this episode. Okay so it's GonNa. Be Our being house, right? So you're, you can work towards it to if you want, but if by chance, that's not the same goal for you. It's not going to stop me from getting this beach house. Does that make sense? Makes you know what I mean like? If someone wants a beach house than they're going to go out and get it, but if you also want to Charleston your to definitely participate in my goal. All I'M GONNA. Take some time to think on that one. Okay, then all come back to you. It's either way it's happening whether you're in or out right so either way it's yours. That case I might not do a whole lot. It's going to be mine anyways. While focus on something else, okay, what would you focus on gardening or something? I got my lavender Rockin. Okay. You've asked me to build a little garden box. Yes, which I have to figure out how to do. Yes, you do okay so urgent have those vegetables and fruits, or whatever all I want I'm going to have a lot, and it's going to be occupying my time so I. Don't know if I'll have the capacity to worry about your beach house streams. That's fine. It's my joy it. That's perfectly fine cool. I am so excited. Let's just continue on the goal path. Do you have any goals? That are like lofty, but yet I say lofty, but I think no goal should be lofty. You know what I mean plenty of goals. Okay, what? What's a good I was like I want my face to stop hurting. I got some allergy stuff going on it every day, not every day for the last. Four or five days a wake up and I feel like I hit by truck, and I can't figure it out and I'm Robin these knots out of. No. We know we see you with the. Self Care King over here and now he's looking into getting an ice roller. You guys, you could get one on Amazon. Yeah, that was a suggestion from our friend Heidi. She makes nothing but solid. Suggestion so I think I just got to do it and I throw her on a percent. Geo gets all his sensitivities from his Dad Dad. Physical sensitive offensive national sensitivities from you. Oh. I laughed because it's just so damn uncomfortable. Can Be sometimes. So. Yeah, so I'm more goals than that. Okay, but that's number one. It's like you've got to feel tip top. Are you seeing a list right now? On your phone? My goal is you're kidding me on joke. Oh, that would be cool though. The other goal. GimMe an exciting one. I need some excitement. Busted you up a little bit about the Beach House, but I'll tell you this. You know I love the beach, know. I, Love Malibu I would love to live in Malibu. in the Pitta me of living at Malibu's on the beach. Absolutely every time. I'm out there I'm just. It's just like it does something for your soul. It's so magical you know. It's like I love that. There's literally pch right behind you, but you don't hear it. You don't see it nothing. Because all your focus on the ocean, the sound of the waves it mutes everything out and your life, and it's just it's soothing. On the idea of You know hopefully you're in a position where you know I, mean it'd be great to live there full time, but if that was like a second place, you know that you go to on the weekends or spend a month here there during the year at. That sounds extraordinary share does. But what's crazy is that we can make these things happen. Okay, you guys. We have an episode coming up. May actually come out next week because I'm so excited to put this episode out. With Chris Harder who is just, he's come so far in the money game, and he is a huge believer in setting goals and just working backwards to actually manifest these goals, so he has a lot of really good tangible stories. And actually on that same topic we should. Share who's going to be on the show today or should we should? What's funny about it? Is that here? We are talking about money and you know spending in this and that I remember our guests specifically saying that there was a time where they were overspending to the point where it was like detrimental, and it was just recently. Coming out of IT YEAH And it's good. Like a good comeback story it's it's being the guy's money so important I mean it's not everything, but at the end of the day it's what we exchange for value right, it gives you. A lot of freedom gives you options we all want. This guy's these I'm sure he's made a little bit of it He has more responsibilities in the form of children now. And he was traveling. They were doing trip after trip after trip. And soon enough you realized Dang I'm just burning through cash right now and I'm putting myself in a tough spot. And he was self aware enough to go. Like look I gotTa Stop I can't do any of this for the foreseeable future and gotta build myself back up and that's that's what he did so just to give you. To let the hate thing. That's a cat out of the bag. It's like not a good saying. No cats should ever be in a bag. Or is there not gonNA flat out? Tell you on the show today. We have Perez Hilton. For any of you who I mean, if are roughly around our age, pres- had like a huge. Blog he was like a big it sounds. You know I don't know if you're into gossip. Actually Not Big Gospel and I don't really know much about pop culture to be honest because I don't pay attention to that kind of stuff very often, but he was the kind of guy he was the guy that was like reporting all of like the God. No God's. He always had the scoop. Scoop yeah. But what I loved about talking with him now today, first of all we met on an episode of victorious Wi fi in the sky, where him and I literally brawled in the inside of a plane and That's when we became friendly, and then recently he deemed me on instagram. I think and we started chatting and he's got a lot going on now. A lot of it being his children, and he's a single dad, and you guys have to hear his story as to how he became a dad. It's beautiful. So why don't we take a break? We'll come back with with press. And then stay tuned for the show because we have a lot of catching up to do, we'll be back. All right everyone sit tight and we'll be right back for some more adulting. Father! As most of US found out the hard way. Getting into debt is easy. Getting out is hard especially, if your credit score is in great, and thankfully, now there's upstart dot com, the revolutionary lending platform that knows you're more than just your credit score and offers smart interest rates to help you pay off high interest credit card debt. That's right. There's so many things about upstart that I really like and I'm a money guy I love that they go beyond the traditional credit score when assessing your credit worthiness. That's important. Right because some of us right now I'm doing something crafty with money. 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Verify can help me what I'm doing. Chunk all. The TIKTOK rat. Oh my goodness you right. Official Daniella Monet. Is that what it is i? Don't think so. Yeah the! Church Italy I got on a little late I was late to the. Party and somebody snatched my name a fleet of equities. Gave Who is it like that? ooh I, WanNa know sewn in the club Oh. You're in the club clearly screengrabs second. Thank you I appreciate it. Yeah I will I will email the tiktok oh, my goodness. He knows Mr Tiktok. Because if you don't have that blue check, people are like. Is that I? Didn't even know they have the blue checks. That's how non talkie I am. I love it I'm obsessed with it turns out I know even our producers before we started. They were like he's a big deal on to talk. You guys need to get A. On since August not even that long. Oh, wow, okay eight months, but I love it so I'm posting six seven videos a day. It's just like twitter. It's quick. It's fun silly stuff. Okay, okay, see I'm into story so I if I can get past the fact that it's a different button for mute oppress. I think I could actually do well. A misconception is it's just for twelve year olds there are. People now. There's even grand follow grandparents. Take Talk. Yes, and they have hundreds, if not millions of follows, what are the grandparents thousands? What are they doing on two different things like usually the ones that have the millions of followers are the ones that do crazy stuff like cursing or dancing or this one grandmother. Does pranks like she's done it a few times now like a show. Put the Mentos and Coke. Blows up and she's like Oh i. didn't I want to do that? And now like what she's done it again, but now it's like now I wanna see if I put five mentos. What will happen instead of just one and you're watching? Okay I've seen that actually on facebook I love how these are now getting circulated? So even if you're not like a TIKTOK. Little Tiktok media I know and I follow the Mommy flogger and Tiktok. I need to get on that action. Because turns out the only thing I want to do only one thing I. Want to talk about right now as being. Understandable the thick of it right and I am. Do you feel like you're still in the thick of it? It always changing uh-huh, so what are the ages of your kids? At this point, a seven-year-old, almost a five year, old, and a two and a half year old. Gamut yeah, they're all still really young. Thankfully you know they're all speaking now, so they can communicate wellish. That's the ticket right when they can tell you. Sometimes go to is tears, and I got the funniest story. I haven't even shared this anywhere. Oh share my daughter. The other day at school came home and had cut her hair at school. And I was like. You've done this before. You know you don't don't this and I'm trying to be cool calm. Yeah, liked it. And then I go to a kid's birthday party the next day for one of her classmates and I was just talking and apparent asked me. How's it going with me? Ed School and I'm like well. You know mostly good I mean. We've gone seven six months, and only one incident and the parent was like what happened Magog yesterday. She cut her hair at school. And then the MOM freaked out, and the MOM was like my daughter cut her hair at school yesterday, too. Too and I'm like no way. And then we were like talking amongst ourselves and I'm like asked her what happened. She's like I don't know I. Don't know, and then mom's like my daughter said the same thing I don't know like fight club and the preschool the Mara ending at school. Everyone's cutting their hair at school than the mom asked my daughter what happened in started to like talk to her about it then my daughter had a full on down and started crying. Almost five she can verbalize herself really well, but sometimes the GO-TO for even a seven year old is tears. Share for variety of reasons and I think it's OK. Okay and I was sharing the mom. Too, because like I wanted to know what happened, so. Nobody's in the wrong and we figure out who the influence was. No, it could have been my daughter. Nobody's talking. It's I fight club upper four year old. I can't handle this so much to look forward to I. Know and it's like she did this a year and a half ago. Okay, and I told her we had a whole conversation about it. He's dangerous. Just don't do that when you cut your hair. We go to the Salon and if you think you have something stuck in your hair, whatever let me know we're lingering. No. He's like listen I see the sun's out. It's a little warmer words. Just what kids are doing a preschool? Would they're doing? Listen, it's going to grow. You have a lot of time for it to come back. I guess right. She cut herself. Bang Oh cute. Yeah, at least she knew what she was going for. It look I like. Okay. Wow, so three kids I feel like I have so many questions I don't even know where to start. But how are you doing? Are you okay? Am I thank you for. Such a powerful question I am great. Actually. Today's really exciting debut. Why tell us well literally three hours ago I announced to the world that I am really seeing my first ever autobiography, which has been a year and a half in the making law I've written three books before, but I was always afraid to write a memoir because. You know I don't think I'm that exciting? Right used to not then never don't book and I'm like this is really good. So proud of it worked so hard on. It was truly a Labor of love and pain, because I'm unflinchingly honest about myself, and about my past regrets and mistakes and I. Share Stories I've never shared before and I Well I. DON'T WANT TO I. DON'T WANNA. Get anything, wait. Don't give it all. Give us a nugget because we've got some listeners that I'm sure wondering. Reveal in the book and Arianna Grundy. Story that I've never spoken about the. Except for right now. Because, the listen urine. Kinda give us a book. Is available for preorder now. Paris Hilton. Book Com, but it doesn't officially come out until October so it'd be. It'd be too early to like bill. Share any thinks. People should just be following you because I'm sure along. The book now Yup per. Perez Hilton Dot Com. The covers pretty awesome, although my mom does not like it. Must Show you naked? What's happening? Literally just texted my mom this morning. It was the first time that she saw. Twelve Yes Oh my goodness. Explain somewhat, you explain. Explain it for people listening. Okay, it's like an eighty s workout. POSE ISH, yeah! Yeah in like a tiny tiny, little pink shirt. It looks like nothing in the midsection. No underwear nothing. Pink High Socks Ish Ya with the beer bracelet. Their leg warmers that I made first of all. Your body is so lambing. Can we talk about now? I WANNA I wanNA know what you're responsible. Sorry, we'll just posted a video I showed it to her at noon. And I broadcast it live on Youtube. But I don't know this airing, so it's on my youtube channel. She just she I got my honesty from my mother's like it. Okay I love it I think it's iconic. It's so good I mean you must blow that up. I'm thankful. The publishers ran it by their big buyers and no boys. You're is like we don't want to run back because it's a little on the race. But you know tasteful, thank you, what are. You well, there's a great story behind that photo. In two thousand and nineteen, my mom and I talk about this. All Gosh I talked about everything in the book in Two Thousand Nineteen. My mom was really sick. She had cancer. She also had a prolapsed bladder so thankfully she was able to get treatment and got better, and also she had surgery and fixed her prolapse bladder, but she's diabetic so each surgery to set her way back, and she got depressed and then I got depressed because we live together so when you're living with somebody who's depressed, can really rub off on you in a did. And I handled my depression last year by eating and more eating, and I gained a ton away and I also started to spend a lot of money. More than I was making I went on six vacations and six months. We went away every single month with my kids, which is much more expensive than going way by yourself to Vegas guests or something like that? and. I saw this photo. Around March or April of Brooke Burke. It was her version of that photo. And as she's almost fifty and looks sensational, and that photo really inspired me to get my act together and say stop it because I used to be very heavy and I was able to get healthy, but sometimes life happens and I resorted to that. In turn to drugs or alcohol. That's not me, but food was my first love, and it was a comfort and I got rid of my trainer and meal delivery program, and doing those two things actually helped me get in really good shape. I didn't do thinking. Oh, I'm GONNA get in great shape getting rid trainer meal delivery? It was because I was spending so much money. It man I was studying like. Oh, well I've got other ways, so I got rid of my trainer meal delivery. I started to take group fitness classes instead of working with a trainer and. They're almost even better. 'cause they're a little bit more cardio based than just lifting weights. Do you have go to place I go to the I don't even. I'm getting a free membership so. All. Asked them before I enjoyed. We don't do that. Have you heard of training? Meet No. Training Mate is a class. It's it's great. Places in Santa Monica West, Hollywood, city. You would love it that go there I am so in love we. They give you some free classes. I'll go. Talk to them, you'll love the energy. They're all ozzy's that run the. Funny. Guy There because it was in west. Hollywood, it's probably Pretty Day. It's so much fun. Yeah, the one gym that I go to is. A lot of girls in their twenties. Nothing wrong with that of course, but you know if you lean training. I I can't hoping. Adding of. That might be kind cute anyways. So yeah. Then! I hit up the same photographer that Brooke Burke. And like I would love to recreate that photo, but make it my own. Which I did like hers was like straight as Britain did. Yeah, hers was like a straight up pinup glamor. Boom. Mine was more tongue in cheek, funny, yeah, but as soon as I took. That photo is like. I have to use this for my book. Yes, is this, is it? I wasn't even a shoot for my book cover. It was just. Wanted to do i. set the goal I am going to get in good enough shape to do this photo in three and a half months, so you went from gaining a lot of weight and being very overweight to getting in good shape and three and a half months. I didn't have a single cheat day a sandwich at all and three hundred today look like today's good just because I'm planning ahead. I, don't even call them cheats anymore I. Call them indulgences because he must. I am I am on Saturday? My sister is having a baby shower for her for her to be. So I'M GONNA. Eat My face off. As you should. So what inspired the autobiography? Approached by my co writers, because like I said I never would have occurred to me to like pitch it or just do it on my own because. Are People going to buy is going to be a big flop. Do People Care? Most people don't like me. Are they? GonNa the people that don't want to pick up the book and they just really sold me on even your haters. Will be curious enough to pick it up because you're going to spill a t and everybody and. Even those that are somewhere in the middle. You've done a lot of really amazing things over the last sixteen years, and we also find your your story before that interesting and fascinating as well in many angles. To immigrants, I have always been. I've always been Perez Hilton. Even before Perez, Hilton existed. You'll see on our. Perez Hilton was born in two thousand and four, but even before that name was in the ether. I always did things outside the box like even. Even in high school like? I don't think this is in the book, but it's just a funny story I of course within the drama club in high school, and they have an annual talent show and I put on. I don't even know how they they must've changed it. Year. Because, they didn't even required. You audition to be in the talent show so I. Put on an act. That was so offensive. The principal of the school almost vomited and the moderator of the club. Literally cursed next to a friend of mine sank. Bank after state. It wasn't even that bad I. Did this weird thing that I was doing at the time? I also wasn't the forensics club. And forensics you're performing by yourself. It's weird rules like you're reading. Even though it's you have a binder and. You're performing by yourself, but I, for my performance in the club I had actors with me and props, there's this thing called spider rabbit about some weird demonic creature, and by the way I went to an odd says what school? Oh my good yeah, and I had like watermelon that was supposed to be like intestines and whatnot. And why do you feel like you're Trina Vega I? Basically I feel like. I'm that little. Extra extra is so good. Are you still extra now that you're extra and you have three little beings. I. I'm so see I love. Life is a journey right and I do hope an aim to be better and do better as I go along. You know as many of you know who have heard the name Perez Hilton back in the day I was next Tuesday. and. I did that knowingly, which made it even worse like in life sometimes. You hurt people's feelings. Accidentally inadvertently, not intentionally, but in my early days I straight up nasty and mean on purpose built a career out of that. Yes, and now and then eventually there came a point where I realized that's wrong, and I grew up and I stopped doing things how I used to, but I love that now. Be My true authentic self doing things better, I still people off like I posted a silly ridiculous. What I thought was fun. Take Talk and people were losing their minds. Care look at this especially now that you're a mom and dad. If you I've seen posted photos of your durable baby on social media. People are gonNA comment. I posted this. Watch this earlier. I can't handle this, so this is basically talking on a child's slide. I earth quaking earthquake yeah. EARTHQUAKE SHAKING Your kids seem so. They're. They're used to me being a Dork and they loved it. They thought I was being dad being silly. Does nothing sexual? Exactly. and. I would say more than fifty percent of my. Words were like that's so inappropriate. Why are you doing that because i? Wanted to because I, thought it was silly and fun and. Even if My kids interpreted as sexual. I'm not afraid of sexuality or sex, or if if they. Sexual Way and they asked me about it. I'd have a conversation with them about like since day. One I've been honest with my kids about everything. They already know I'm gay. They know how they came to be. They know some people don't like their dad. I've already prepared them for that. They made mistakes in the past already at ages, seven, four and two and a half. and. I look forward to the day when they are embarrassed by the not loving it because I'm still GonNa do it. For people listening who don't know how you became a dad and maybe little the story of of your children. Your family who you mind sharing because I'm sure there are a lot of single parents out there that are doing doing it as well and would love to hear from someone who's who looks like they're thriving and enjoying it all you know, and that just sounds like you. Guys have the coolest connection Oh I mean I love. Listen I. DON'T WANNA it's not all rose colored glasses. You know it's not all rainbows, the worst thing about being a parent. Before kids I had a blissful life free of anxiety. Clinical anxiety I never experienced it after having children I now. Truly suffer from real anxiety and not anxiousness. Until you get it, you'll never get it. And hopefully your listeners or you don't have anxiety because. I would have even been an agnostic or even. A skeptic McCall anxieties now saying or whatever, but it's so is and. That's the worst thing that's come with being apparent for me. My real triggers are you know? Me Being a control freak really served me and was great for most of my life, but what you cannot control, you can be prepared into your best is. The future can't control the future and for me, anxiety is. Obsessing about the future in an unhealthy way, our and also not being able to control your brain and stop it when racing, and all of these things in a lot of my triggers are just financial. How can I make more spend less because I'm doing it all by myself and I've made the choice to send my kids to private school, which is not cheap. I've made the choice to put my kids in extracurricular activities, which is not cheap I know that all I took it on myself, and now I'm just in the trenches and I feel like these next ten years of my life. When my kids are, you know in the formative years are. Not going to be glamorous, not even going on vacation like I'm not going to go on a single vacation this year with my kids. You're talking to people who came from very modest upbringing I did too, and honestly like I'm grateful for it. May Who I am today, kids can learn so much from. There's just discipline right. You can't do it. You just don't do it, but like next year you may have a different situation xactly disciplined and also like. Being aware and not even living with. Living below your s I could take a vacation this year, but I realized okay. Last year. I spent a lot, so it wouldn't be the smartest. Best vacation you went on last year we went to Cambria and Santa Inez and like all these little towns. In the central area, and solving. I love it over beautiful so I, knew I always wanted to have children. In fact in two thousand and eleven, I wrote a children's book called the boy with pink hair, and I dedicated it to my future. Children. Hope to see you soon. And my son was born in two thousand, thirteen and I was thirty four years old when he was born. Which means I began the process at thirty three? And I decided to do at that point because by thirty three I had already been doing what I was doing for. A while and I felt financially secure. To to take it on a low without a partner like there's a reason why a lot of people do have a partner. And a good reason is financial like somebody to help with all of the money because it's a lot. and. I. In the future I may adopt in the future may foster or mentor or whatever, but my dad passed away when I was fourteen, and there was just something. Biological in me, and I think also had to do with being Latino that I wanted to have my own children and I think it's maybe selfishness to like a or up money I think it's more like my dad like I wanted to keep his blood out there and his DNA and it sounds cheesy, but I swear to God, my son. Is. My father I wouldn't say he's my dad. reincarnated looks more like my dad that he looks me. His temperament is just like. My Dad was not me my middle child the when the cut her hair she's. ME. In every way. Even, the is my only child. Blue is a couple of is the Brown eyes, but she is my spirit and war. Which is why we had. More talent. and. I'll just use the middle child, so we also heads the most, but I feel like. That were probably going to end up being the closest because of that because like I. Know Her so well, 'cause she is me. And then my babies just like my mother to fascinating, how family children works I went and I a lot of research about how I wanted to go through with this and I found a surrogacy agency, and they helped with everything from finding an egg donor to finding a surrogates, the fertility clinic to a lawyer to. Represent me and my best interest make sure that even before the baby was born, everything was clearly spelled out and in writing. This is his child. He makes the decisions and so on and so forth and. Yeah now my son just turned seven and it's crazy. Having kids makes the years go by real quickly. Yeah, for sure they can measure them so much differently or quicker family member that says it really well. She says the The days are long with the user short. Yeah, so true, so the more you talk, the more questions that prompted my brain, have you? You talked about partners a little bit. has there been a time like in the last seven years where you've brought somebody around your kids? Oh No, I haven't gone on a date since two thousand eighteen. And I haven't even had sexy time since two thousand sixteen. Yeah, yeah you're. You'RE A dad. You're I. DON'T WANNA be using the APPS. How most people meet people these days I did that in two thousand and thirteen thousand sixteen. I was doing a lot of online dating for three years, and I hooked up plenty, okay. Yeah. So it was baby blues hooked plenty, so it is actually don't feel sad or deprived or anything that I haven't cooked up in four years than anybody. But, no I think and this might sound bad. On some level either sub-conscious or overt, I wanted to have kids as a single father, because it's such an important job for me and I am such a control say it's gotta come down specific vision of how I wanted to parent and what I wanted my family to be like I didn't want to even contemplate the possibility of having a partner breaking up, and then having the split custody and three days there three days here four days there three days. Like I wanted to be. Having a stable. Home Life for my kids because I believe stability is important especially when you know. There's a single parent and I dunno so yeah. I would love a partner in the future, but and this is why won't get one? My partner will never be adopting my kids. There my kids I call the shots and it is what it is you think. Is there a possibility that that minds that ever changes? No 'cause also like my kids are seven, four and three knock, and just wait another ten years, and then date and my kids are grown grown, you know. And also like I'm such like the older you get, the more like your idealized versions of things fade away. You become more of a realist. I don't even think I always wanted to get married. Now is like an Asterik I'm only to get married if it's with somebody who has more money than me. Just because I have children to look after. And, even if you had a pre-nup or whatever it might be, somebody can contest that knowing that by contesting it. You'RE GONNA want to settle because he didn't want to spend the next two three, four, five six hundred thousand dollars to fight it out in a in a long drawn out divorce. Kate writes sensible thing to do. Yeah, you've been around Hollywood far to. Talk about it in my book. Okay, so on that note, so the book is available for preorder. Dot Com and it'll be available in October, for anyone who is listening to present his amazing story, while I'm very entertained by presence, and I cannot wait to partake in this journey I. Think the I think it's great that you did a book. I think that you are a unique figure and a lot of people have different ideas of who you are, but no one really knows you you know, and no one really is going to know you, so it's Nice for you to put out an image and and beyond. The real truth some of it is like I really gonNA. Stay that or am I really going to? Let that I'll be there and I'm like yeah. There's no. There's no do over for an autobiography like Oh, I was lying I mean maybe some people will do, but that's not me good. was there anything that you held back on everything I mean. I haven't even spoken to my mom about some of the stories I. Share something have to sit her down and. It'd be like I'm give you a heads up about this that and the other before it comes out 'cause she's not going to read it about her. Friends in Miami are GonNA. Read it. Like. she's the only person. Yeah she's the only person I'm going to. Give you a little lake desertion before the book comes out. That's fair. That's fair. Okay, I'm intrigued I'm intrigued I appreciate you coming and taking some time away from your kids because we know. First hand that's like very hard to do and thank you for just shutting late I. Feel like I've got a boost of energy from this little, Chat Caffeine. Just coughed. Black not told a lot about you trying to be healthier. Oh, that's right. Elkins sugar that. It's not as healthy. Okay so for everyone listening, please. To yourself solid, support your book, and if you enjoyed me on here, I have a podcast, myself also podcast one. You can listen to the Perez Hilton podcast with Chris Booker on spotify or apple, podcasts, or directly at Perez PODCAST DOT com. I like buying those customer else can. What else you? have. One merch. Okay, I pop stuff, DOT com. Have you had to buy any of those off of anybody else? No, no gotten them all. Nobody else is going to have Perez Hilton Book. I never know read. Even have Perez TV? Okay. I might have gotten rid of that. One I. Don't know maybe I still have it who cares? Thirty not the one that. I love it all right well. Thank you again eight years. Until. We talk about Torius I. Know You watch it on, Netflix I. Got Because I'm controversial. I I have to use this opportunity to thank. Dan Schneider, even though some people have their opinions about him, he was only nice to me and he was the Creator and executive producer of that show and he. wrote a part for me and hype me up on. They're making me seem like such a big deal so thank you to him if he's listening. I really appreciate. It was wild 'cause like. Even the concept of Perez Hilton being on Nickelodeon. If anyone could do. It would have been Dan. Oh. I hope he's listening all them now. Things. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back in field with more adulting mother father. Did you know that right now. gyco offering an extra fifteen percent credit car, motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money. GEICO could already save you so What are you waiting for your dog to make breakfast in bed with Belgian waffles and a fresh fruit compote? As Nice as that sounds, that's probably never going to happen, but at least there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit GEICO. Dot Com to save more. Hey guys adjust Nixon here from the hit podcast now. What and this week I? Welcome Hodge Larson an Amaryllis Fox from net flicks hit show the business of drugs take a lesson big Pharma as a as. An industry is out of control and a the perception that drug abuse at enrichment from drug abuse is a problem that. Is restricted to the shadows is kind of the drug dealer on the corner. One of the things that I think we really wanted to challenge because the reality. Is that the drug dealer at Hill, mill or The pharmaceutical company that's putting these ads on TV, knowing that you know all of the addictive properties are there. Are Actually doing far more damage than any street corner peddler could have the scale or capability to it, so don't miss now. What this Wednesday and every Wednesday on podcast one. Guy We're back here's adulting like mother father. Okay! We are back. Hope you guys enjoyed that chat with Peres. The we record that before quarantine. And it's always interesting to kind of go back in time because I always say this. When we put out Jena's episode of Sweet Potato Soul on instagram. It was like trippy to here where we're at then and even him you know I. Mean Times are so different now you know you launch a book, and then you can't even do a book tour. You can't do all the things to promote you know what anyway so? You know but needless to say times are also kind of exciting and weird and new, and let's let's catch him up on all the things because last episode I remember. We dove into our relationship a little bit. So any any news on? On that one nothing that sticks out something. Put It on me. Yeah I'm just like because you're so good with your words. On it. I want to backpedal pedal I love when he says I just wanted to say about. Chatting with press? It's A. Point my life thirty two. Nobody like superhuman. Nobody's out of reach nothing out of reach. And so I'm not surprised when we bump shoulders with people these days, but like if I rewound, is that a word? To like say ten fifteen years ago like I, knew the Perez Hilton Name Right, and I wasn't anywhere near La. Ten years ago, but anyways long story short. I remember thinking about the name Perez Hilton as like this big Hollywood figure like and i. knew nothing other than. Gossip like he had created a brand name for himself. Right It's just it's kind of a trip that here we are. You know fast forward a bunch of years and you were sitting down for me right? You've been in the scene forever, but for me sitting down and having conversations with people like that feeling so normal. Yeah, well, that's how should be here. We're all just human. That's what I'm saying. No, I know I know exactly what you're saying. And I think I have those kind of like. Pinch me moments to brochure. Even recently. I was just on on Kaitlyn Bristowe podcast and I remember thinking like before we when she's a big Fan. Stop. Before we had our show. I used to be an avid podcast listener and she was one of the first podcast kind of got me hooked, and so for that reason alone. Obviously I'm a big bachelor fan and all the things, but yeah, there's moments where it's like your life comes full circle, and you're like just chilling with certain people or you know I don't know it's an interesting dynamic, but again like everyone is human and everyone literally poops. Facts brought to you by Danilo, Monet. Everybody poops. It's. Funny because people use that as a tactic to. Calm nerves and make themselves more around people. Yeah, they say picture like picture. Somebody naked picture that person pooping. Yeah makes you feel like they're at the same level as Human picture someone to take it to another level picture. Someone constipated. Okay. These are not facts you by Danilo. Think about it like if you can picture someone on a toilet literally pushing trying to push one out, that humanizes someone on another level, the struggle of pooping. And it's July. Twenty eighth, and our show has taken a turn. We have a different type of show for you these days. If you're into pooping or not be able, you're not into pooping. What's wrong with you? Everyone should be into pooping hundred percent, and we're going to change the subject. Okay, so catching people up. I want to catch people up on where we're at with the house. Thing because I know that we have. Talked about looking at houses. We've talked about wanting to move. Where's your head at right now? With that. My head is. Let's make the best financial decision correct. We definitely want more space still. We would like to be closer to family. Just because it's easier for us to see each other. We, need help sometimes and families the best option for us right now, so it'd be. It'd be nice to be closer for that. A lot of the. Like really anything we've done lately is see family and they're all out west from us. Yeah, like thirty forty minutes or whatever? And we spent a of time out there. There's places we go. There's the beach. There's Malibu in that direction. and. Just. You're just throwing things out there like you're still. You're still interested, but you WANNA make financial, I'm making a making a short story very long. The long story short is. We like it and if there's if there's the right play out there right house for the right price. Then I think we'd pull the trigger, but we look every day just for fun because it's what we do. Real estate, and there's just nothing that we found so far so I. Think my head's quickly come back to. How do we make ourselves most comfortable where we're at right now and continue to make this? Place that we love in a place that works for our lifestyle. And we already do. We have an amazing little house. Yeah, we have a decent little lot size for the house size. And you know we have a pool. We're doing jim out in the garage. I'm very grateful for what we have. It'd be nice to have a little more space, but like I love our current spot and. We used to think we had an amazing location which I think we do, but the idea of amazing changes as your life changes totally and with a kid in the world, and realizing how important it is to be around your family, and your best friends right, because the your capacity of sharing your time with everybody and everything is minimal. Yes, yes, like you just WanNa make that stuff easier. So as cool of location as we have. We have training. Couple minutes away which. Is Literally I can walk to whole foods. Coffee shops like all the little restaurants that we used to. Go over the hill, and the West Hollywood Beverly Hills and ten fifteen minutes. It's a dope spot, but I think because of everything that's happened with pandemic and our life. Yeah, the idea on changes for sure. I couldn't agree more I think my has shifted in a way and I think honestly the conversation with Chris Harder like definitely planted many seeds in my head and finding. In a unique spot right now, kind of due to the pandemic, but also just because we are entrepreneurs, and so money isn't like the most consistent in some ways, but a lot of really good things are happening a lot of really good things and a lot of things that we worked really hard on kinder beauty is just like. It's just. You. Guys are creating such a dope. Crushing Right now lake, all say for you. I'm a big like obviously I'm around it all the time, but I'm a big kind of beauty believer in Fan I. Think the product that they put out into. The world is amazing and for me like I'm a frugal like value centric guy from a value standpoint. Like that alone. Is a no brainer like what you get for what you pay. It's twenty five bucks a month. Or cheaper if you subscribe for longer periods, and you get anywhere from Mike at Minimum seventy five dollars, worth of products, upwards of one hundred and sixty five dollars crazy. Yeah, like if you're into beauty, which in my mind, I think every girl is in some capacity. Guys are to a self care. You're testing our products. We know. I just think is a no brainer and like. They're creating a really cool little community. And I think the the mission behind the brand is what sets you guys apart? I, just think you're creating something really cool and I think people are right now. They have time to focus. On where they're putting their money. Yeah, I just think the community is growing quickly. and. So. A real thing, it's cooling real. Oh, my Gosh so-called that and When we were at no boone I was talking to my partners at Sugar Talk Oh. We've been new location that we are building out slowly There's just like a lot of good things happening so like I just like to stay optimistic and I want everyone to hear this like you can feel so low one day, and then you can decide to. To like, shake it up and put your energy into something that feels good and very quickly. You can have something come to fruition. That can like pay your bills in the future like find a need. Find something that like is missing in the world, or that can do good for others and run with it because I feel like that was sort of. That was what drove me probably five years ago when I decided to start investing in companies that I supported and that was really like. The pivotal moment for me where I was like I used to be in the situation where I would wait for the phone to ring, and tell me that I had an audition or that someone was interested in me for a part, and you know just pray that that would happen, and now I'm in a totally different position and feels so freaking good at so in terms of like where we're at right now like I feel grounded in our home, but I am optimistic that like things really happen for us in a way that's. Exciting, and new and fresh, and hopefully all the things that we ever wanted so I'm just sort of trying to be patient. You know like you build your nest egg. Your patient you. You put your money in the right places. You hopefully have it grow to a place where you can live comfortably. And then you make a big move so. I think that's Ramat personally. Yeah, I. DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, yeah! What people can take from that is starting. Start investing as early as possible. Yes. That could be. That could be an. If you WANNA get in the stock game if you if their businesses that you're connected to in some capacity that you believe in, or you want to start your own start early, take risks. If you fail you I, mean one you. If nothing else, you should learn from failure so failures good but too. I would imagine muscle listeners are fairly young. You have so much time to recover from risks that you take today, so take the risk because if you never do, you can never put yourself in the position so true that you want to be in so true and you know right now. We have to also be very careful where we're spending our money. Because you know, employment is kind of Funky during these times so. So as weird as it sounds like you can. Always in my opinion, you can always afford to invest depending on how you budget so for me, personally like I, just no I'm not interested in spending on the things that are like kind of superficial like I've never been into like clothes or handbags or shoes or any of that stuff, but I would like to know that I own stock in Tesla your whole foods. So it's like. You're? Not Right now, but I'm saying like you can prioritize where you spend your money, and I really feel like it can drive you to like. Check those numbers. It's like checking your bank account. To see that grow. You'll never look at I mean maybe you will look at a pair of shoes and go. Oh, my Gosh! Every day. Those make me feel so happy about my life, which is totally fine within reason, but you know like there's nothing like seeing. I. Don't like hard work. Pay Off. You know you make your money and it's hard to make it sometimes. Have it work for you? I, don't know how we got on this tangent, but no, but I love it though yes. For one second, okay, go ahead so like I said. I'm Super Frugal and I think you are. Too Yeah except for when it comes to food food, which is fine because that's I mean that's like preventative healthcare. Exactly should be spending your money there. On the flip side of that. But anyways. Yeah right now when things are uncertain. To be frank like. I don't buy clothes I don't buy. I don't buy anything unnecessarily YEP. If there's something that I one. That's not something that I need I. Sleep on it for at least one day. I'll have something in an Amazon checkout cart for. Flame three days a week or whatever? For him, buying those nine volt batteries that were in there. That was for the smoke. Extra. Ten Bucks I was like I get that in Mexico like a solid few days. It's all right. Smoke alarms are fine. So there you go just be smart right now. Cut Out what you can cut out. And it's. Just something that you kind of have to do in a time like this. That's uncertain. And like she said find a way to budget for investment and I mean that can be as little as five percent of what's coming in most people use ten percent as the golden rule. If you can afford more than that and do it but that that you should consider that paying yourself first so when money comes to pay herself the five or ten percent I put it away, investment account, or at least save it until you have emergency fund, which is three to six months of expenses. But get used to doing that. Paying yourself first feels good, and then at the rest goes. You know that you took care of yourself before anybody else. I love this sums up. Thumbs up, thumbs up. Let's end on that note. I'm like so motivated right now. I. Hope You guys are to start small. You know it's all about planning. The seat I did not realize our conversation I. Thought that we were doing all of these things prior to talking to Chris. Harder which I keep dropping this, but it is coming next week, so let's put that up sewed up. I the seeds. Planted whilst talking to him has like been in the back of my head ever since and so you know I think that's that's all it takes is sometimes just hearing it once. Maybe it again, thinking about it a little bit more, and then you start to actually take actions, so maybe this is the beginning of all of us and our listeners doing some big things. You Ready. Each house twenty twenty three. Okay. All right guys, thanks for listening to adulting mother father. We so appreciate your support. I'm Ashton actually very grateful for GIO napping this long. This has been a very success will. Recording session. It's all in all a good day. It's going to be a great week and stay tuned for next week's episode and big. Thank you to our guests. Press. Hilton show him some love and we'll be back. That sound good. We'll cut it there, guys. Thank you for listening to this episode of adulting like a mother father, new shows drop every Tuesday on the direct message network on podcast one.

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Downtown Atlanta, Friday - Trader Vic's

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Downtown Atlanta, Friday - Trader Vic's

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Perez Hilton on Gaga, Madonna, JLO, & Lindsay Lohan

Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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Perez Hilton on Gaga, Madonna, JLO, & Lindsay Lohan

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So that's coming in a second, but I just wanted to tell you guys I'm excited I'm coming to Tempe Improv in Arizona I will be there October twenty ninth and thirtieth i WanNa have some special surprises that as soon as I get confirmation will announce but it's only one show a night and it is at limited capacity. So if you want to come I really say go to. Heather Dot net today, and get your tickets. It will sell out and it's GonNa be fun since I haven't been on stage and if you saw my special which I hope you did it will be completely different and new material, and if you WanNa, see my special that you have the resolve dot net and you can see it there too. But it is at Amazon video direct it's doing great. Thank you for all the reviews. Get a laugh for your husband you know it. Real House of Potomac you guys I mean this is the show you gotta be watching. They're doing everything I. Love they're being honest there being real they're breaking the fourth wall they're talking about stuff i. mean it is. It's pretty amazing I've watched it throughout but this is by far the season we have this new girl here Wendy and she's a pretty smart cookie and she is a lawyer, but she also goes on like CNN and everything. and. At first she was she got a little mad about things was a little crazy but in last night's episode. Was a British. Did very well, what happened was Karen? Who's the Garonne Dawn? She has her own perfume. She decided to have a sit down with all the girls except for canvas and this is candice. Candice. Monique is who we talked about last week who got in the wildest fight on the show I've. Ever seen blows away anything I've ever seen on real housewives show. It was very, very bad. Monique started to flip her hair got past that in her opinion Kansas interface. And she then grabbed candidates his hair and would not let go. There were literally five people trying to get her to go. She didn't. then. When they settled her down, we're seeing all the producers get involved, which is my favorite stuff from the producers. I come to drop their camera run like break up a fight. Then, they thought they had calmed her down. She got away from the one male producer ran around the barn running full speed ahead to try to get to Kansas before Kansas got in the car and left so that she could beat her ass once again, all caught on camera. So Karen has the sit down last night edges Zell right here shows up and she brings her own bodyguard. The bodyguards sits behind her and. Karen Zach really we're bringing bodyguard. Karen had gotten some Lupane. Pastries and stuff and she's just thought it was going to be nice. Sit down. she's like, yeah, that's how I feel comfortable. You know and Muni shows up and shoots real cute jeans on it pretty blouse and she comes inch like I want to apologize. I feel terrible about what happened I'm really embarrassed and when he goes are you embarrassed or you remorseful? because. I'm hearing you're not remorseful and she wasn't she goes no I'm not remorseful like she still crying say like, candice gotten my face I don't like how I reacted but hey, if you're gonNA, get my face. You know I'm Gonna I'm not. This is how I do. You know that was pretty disturbing and mostly all the women were like we're black women were on a show this there. Well, I liked about as they were like, Hey, we're on a show, the breaking the fourth wall this is going to be on the show. This is going to be a huge part of the show and as black women this is a stereotype that we've had to deal with and we absolutely don't. And you by putting your hands on canvas in such a violent way. It's GonNa make us all look bad and now we're all embarrassed to be on show with with this kind of violence. Karen is trying to save it. She's like I think Monique's great and basically sells like well I don't want anything to do with you and I don't want to be on the show with someone like you. So she's she's by to get her fired and even Monique said, that was one of the things that pissed her off that you know she felt that Kansas was kind of taunting her and trying to get her fired and she has. So now I guess maybe I am I don't know A lot of the fight over a live podcast. About it, because candace was supposed to be underneath live podcast Kansas starting to get they got in an. Or Lake House and left her high and dry. So the was the heat up was trying to sell these fucking live tickets for this podcast the lazy. MOMS. PODCAST which we looked up and I don't think it ever took place. So one thing that said was I can't be around this. Craziness because my ex husband and I have a reputation, he is like a major past store and I just find it who I would love to hear from someone goes to. Her. Ex husband soon to be husband agains. Church. Is that dynamic of a speaker? How much do you get from a job like that as like being a pastor of a Mega Church? and. You know she's out she wrote a book about how he cheated on her her father was just might saying he doesn't want to sell to get back together with him even though they have three daughters together because he has six to seven other baby mamas and too many other kids to count and she's in love with him and wants to get. Remarried to them even her girls are like not excited about it l.. Any also gave the girls a restaurant he bought some restaurant, and then the girls are GonNa work there at twelve. Weird. I'd assume curious about that You know really that your reputation is now going to be tarnished somehow. Anyway. So keep watching meanwhile, Ashley goes to therapy with her cheating Australian husband who was caught. Seen in his underwear in a hotel room in which he said he fell asleep. He took off all his clothes and fell asleep next to a woman never touched her but just was so tired he fell asleep and when he woke up in his underwear, she took a photo of it but nothing happened because he was so drunk. He fell asleep. I just didn't want to wear his nice clothes and wrinkle for actually when she came back for the Lake House. So they go to therapy and he's like well, you know yeah, I cheated because. You haven't been sexually available to me the last couple months since she gave birth to her kid who looks just like and he's three months old. Oh sorry I haven't. You know I haven't dying to hop on your Australian Dick the last three months when I'm breastfeeding. Awful anyway. She's pregnant again in real life. So she's obviously stay with them. They worked it out. So watch it. 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I am very Yang and gang right now I am both wonderful and at the same time but before I get to the wise I have to just give a shout out to one of your most loyal listeners and one of my best friends, Mike Netter loves your show and. I just love that he helped make this possible. So thank you to Mike. Yes I. Love that he wrote me and I'm like already on it I already got the book we scheduled it. So yes I'm thrilled. Let's get into some of this stuff. So I'm probably about three fourths through okay and You know it really. There's so much that I love about people know Press Hilton you were. What's exciting is that you were really one of the first bloggers. That you had eight million people going to your site every day to get their news and when I was on Chelsea lately, I was checking that all the time for hot topics. 'cause we came up with these hot topics I. Remember you know there wasn't many sources and that was that was the hottest like to get the quickest thing and we're GonNa wait for people magazine or US weekly are going go to. Perez Hilton, and I have a bone to pick though. Perez Hilton has been doing the rounds promoting this new documentary rivers and she interviews. It's repeatedly calling herself the original influence sir, I'm like, no sweetie you were born in heiress became a socialite then transitions to TV star doing reality you are not. The original. Sir I am hi, entire career is owed to social media and nontraditional media I had to work for everything. I was born to Cuban immigrants. Nothing was ever given to me and I paved the way. There was no TMZ when I started back in. For I gave them the idea. But you did choose your name. Perez Hilton as an Ode to this budding star light who was on the cover of page six every day at New York magazine or whatever. Paris Hilton who you do talk about in the book that you guys became friendly. She was very smart to make you her friend so that you would write about her in a positive way and we've all been there where you know it's a fine line like how close you want to get to some people because you also want to be really honest if you don't like for me if I don't like a former guest behavior on the upcoming season of real housewives. I gotta be honest about it, and if it means, you don't call my show again after that. Oh well, you know so so but it's hard if you really become friends with someone and you're really on the phone hanging out, it does become difficult and you found yourself in that predicament with some of the biggest stars from the two thousand on. Paris being one of them and you said, you used to hang out her house and one thing I thought interesting that I didn't really know that you said she was a big stone her that she no. Oh. My God I'm GonNa get in trouble. I don't care listen the bug now I know I know Trouble. Because I'm about to. pull the rug out from underneath this new documentary of hers that I just mentioned I watched it and I. One thing I was going to say is we never see her talking about pot or edibles or anything. So it's so it's so fake it's just another act. This is whom she wants us to believe she is that Paris Hilton that we saw on the documentary, which is actually her third documentary that she's ever done about herself. Possibly the fourth I know at least she's done to others She is all of those things, but she's not really that you know she didn't allow herself to be seen for whom she really is. She showed glimpses of that aspects of who she is but knowing her for fifteen years that's not who she is but. One thing that I will say about her is she's a nice person she's not a mean nasty. Greater are a lot of those in this industry and she's not one neither is Kim Kardashian nobody that's ever worked with Kim will say she miserable Siga next Tuesday you know and back in the day when I began hanging out with Peres. People used to tell me all the time. She's just using you for publicity. She's just using you. So you don't write negative things about her and I wished back then I could tell them Da I know pat I'm not an idiot and I'm using her right back. Right. But like you mentioned it, it is difficult if you want to do what we do and be truthful because. Even though I changed back in two thousand and ten how I talk about celebrities I don't give people the nasty nicknames anymore I don't do too on the photos inappropriate things I do try to be not cruel. But just by having an opinion that could upset people because you know celebrities. Stars Musicians, they have big egos. They're fragile people they just WANNA be loved by everybody says something as simple as. Saying. You don't like somebody's new song they'll get. I didn't say I. Hate You I just said I don't like that song or like Oh my God. I was in Vegas with my friend Mike and Joe Love Yes. Love I'm just not love Jalen she is to me the most beautiful I love her style I always talk about the most gorgeous the best style, the most delightful like three or four times she remembers who I am I know bad things to say so you're in Vegas what happened? Yes. I I love her and I've been so public with my adoration of Bray Low and this is where my podcast co host thinks I'm crazy. Okay he and I am. But that's I think what makes me me? I'm crazy. So I go see the biggest Jaylo show when she had residency and that same week had happened I also went to go see Mariah Carey in concert in Vegas. So then when it came time to do my podcast and I was talking about my weakened in Vegas naturally I saw both shows the same weekend I compared. Yeah. That's what you do and I said that I liked the Mariah show better and because I got a meet and greet with J. Lo, they took me backstage to meet her her manager was so pissed I would say the Mariah Carey show better. I wasn't dissing J. Lo I was giving my opinion on the show. That's what I do. I still love the woman well. My yes. Host, if I got backstage. Position, which hopefully one day I will be in your position I get invited to too great shows. I've been to the show unfortunately I never got to go to Jaylo show however I would've loved to if I was in that position I would have said you you really got to go to both this one was Borgetti you know of course has. The gorgeous voice like you know both had great interaction with their audience like you see, and you could still given like you know juicy scoop from each without saying if you're gonNA choose one because no one asks you. If you're co-host maybe you're Komo's asked you but I would have been like no one asked me to choose one because then you get. I'm an over sharer I I. Don't know I felt like I had to say to one thing. One thing speaking of concerts that I loved the book is that you said you got to go to Madonna's concert and you and you know you went you're of course that was in. Vegas and then you did you review and you said I loved it played the guitar too much. Now I remember the the the tour you're talking about because she did play the guitar a little too much. We're like we got it. You learned how to play guitar this summer like it's almost like you're kidding you're like I. got it. Okay. It's like. Could you just go back to holiday right? Because this is just killing me right now and what I love about Madonna is that she that invited you back had you sit in the front row Said pointed you out. What did she say tell us what you say. So yeah. I made a video review show and I said I love the show but I didn't like that she played guitar so much. So she invited me back sat me in the front row and the very next day during the concert said. Know, my friend Peres is in the audience and he thinks I play. In my show too much and then she goes deal with it baby. And then dedicated the song miles away to me and I was losing my mind crap and myself with my Donna continues to be my biggest inspiration life and she's somebody else like Lo whom? Even if not, even even especially if I love somebody I, think it's important to be honest with them to be. Objective like you can't live with your head in the clouds I am a fan and a hardcore fan of many people. But I'm not a Stan. I won't just love anything and everything that people do if you do something that I think warrants being called out I will and painful as it is for me to say. You know our Madonna has been a little bit out there lately. What do you think's going on? With her weird videos and I think that she has just been Madonna for so long that she's lost all concept of reality and humanity she's. For decades now been surrounded by. Yes. People and nobody will tell her the truth nobody will stand up to her nobody will confront her and she likes that. You know when she were that outfit were like her ass was just out. Like. I get that every single person on instagram has their ass cheeks out. But you don't have to like your Madonna. Like it's just come on like I don't now. Yeah. Exactly it. She doesn't have someone that's like. No I don't know that I would post that. Maj. Right. But she's still Madonna. It's just frustrating to me because I love my divas and I look at somebody like Celine Dion and I think as the years have gone on, she's done an exceptional job of not just maintaining her legacy but improving upon it whereas Madonna still has her legacy, but she's been tarnishing it with everything she says, and does the controversial remarks about cove it and just ev- everything it's But you know what to me she's like family and I will love her forever and you can get into disagreement with your mom or your sister, your your cousin and to meet family is family forever. Well, let me ask this before I forget because I'm GonNa get into more stuff on the book. Wasn't there something because I remember I was you know Chelsea lately started in two thousand and seven, two, thousand seven and we had experts like you on did you come on the show ever or did didn't? And then do you in Chelsea like I just remember to a bunch of fights to what what was the main thing was. It wasn't that you reported something about her that really pissed her off. Yes. A couple of things. Today when I. Was a cu next Tuesday myself. Okay. There are two things that probably got to her one. I don't even remember exactly what it was, but there was as big rumor going around about her being hermaphrodite or do you remember that story or or something about her I don't remember the exact details do you remember what it was? I think I think you wrote something about a rumor that she had like some plastic surgery done down there. Oh? Yes. Yes. Yes I don't remember what it it's such to. I don't know. I just remember that was the thing and I have no idea. What it was, it was true or not, or who cares but back, then it was. Like a bigger now, people talk about it. You know they show the PR- surgery happening on the reality show if they get something done down there and it's no big deal because they wanna get it for free like how many times do we have to see that on reality? TV But then it was like you know pissed her off. But I think that was real. That's the thing I I. Say I don't. Think that was the main thing that pissed her off. and. Also, they just changed the whole concept the beginning of Chelsea lately they had experts right then it turned into just comics right? Which is why yeah 'cause I was on it. So we used to have to comics than an expert and then we just made it all comic. So you know yeah, wasn't necessarily a distant to necessarily but I do remember her being pissed about that. Oh. Yeah. I remember that two. People that got pissed off you The lady Gaga story throughout the book is really amazing and something I was not aware of I was not aware that you got her music and play. I, I wasn't aware that you had launched so much so many music careers on your as Hilton Dot Com site and made people aware because there was no almost like the way Tiktok you know how now you go God. That's a tic Toc song and it actually becomes popular Tiktok before you hear it on kiss. FM. Or whatever. I almost feel that sort of similar to what you were doing for people. Yeah I've always loved music, and if actually maybe I could show you I'm in my bedroom and I have a bunch of platinum plaques here that were gifted to me by some of the biggest artists on the planet. So we've got the Jonas brothers remember them. As a thank you for really exposing the world to their music. Yeah. Here we got the Ting tings above them is Eric Hutchinson a lady Gaga Plaque here a justin bieber one their Taylor swift behind me icon up hop and then perhaps like my two favorite ones behind me or my British girls me wine house and Adele both. Wow that. Is Amazing. Yeah with Gaga. By two thousand and eight when she was getting ready to release music on a major label, I had already established myself as a huge fan of music and a cheerleader right somebody that helped a lot of artists get attention. So her manager reached out to me and said, we would love for you to listen to this. Girl, we think you'll like it and I said, okay sure and I listened to it, and instantly I loved the music I mean the first time I heard just dance and poker face I knew those were hits and the first time I ever posted about lady. Gaga on my website I. Remember that I post I. said this girl reminds me of Madonna. Flash. Forward to twenty twenty we've had her falling out whatever at the end of the day I still take pride in knowing that I saw something in her before almost anybody else and I really helped her she's said it herself repeatedly at the beginning of her career. The thing that happened and it's happened multiple times not just with her. With her, it's the only time that I had such a public falling out but I was also friends with Adele I was also friends with Katy. Perry, I was also friends with Amy Wine House and it wasn't just okay. Well, these women now have a hit or are successful. They became Mega Stars and I was Perez Hilton. So that made a friendship really difficult. And now that I have kids I barely even have time to see my friends that I knew before I was Peres yeah. Well especially now in the middle of a pandemic. You three to Kyrie. So how old is the youngest? The. Youngest one is going to about as well. this airs she just turned three. So you have, and then I have a five year old and a seven year old so. The, five year old is. A boy. A girl. So as to girl and a boy, the boy is the oldest boys the oldest. Okay. That's amazing and you get a little into that in the book and. Now. I know you don't WanNa. Get you. You're kind of like I want to WANNA keep it private, but I just had a couple of questions that if not, we can cut it I'll talk about everything. I didn't know if 'cause you were talking about how you chose. The donors the donor obviously because you need an egg, there's a donor egg, and then there's the woman who carries the baby. Those were two different people. Yes. Okay. So you yeah was so did with the donor then are they all the from the same donor woman like they? All are one hundred percent. So that's wonderful. So you were able to get lots of embryos out of that. Yeah I mean it's fascinating because I had never been through the process or so I wasn't. Familiar? With Difficult actually can be to get pregnant even with the help of science. Especially because the first time with my son boom pregnant right away. But then the subsequent subsequent pregnancies, the my daughter's it took multiple attempts each time. In fact, with my middle child, it took the fourth try before getting pregnant and two different surrogates I was like, wow I may only have one. That's why they say every baby is a miracle because it's not that easy right sometimes to to get pregnant and to have a baby or to get amount of. Eggs to turn into embryos that you need, and then to have the embryos be viable. But what's fascinating to me about that process is I I got Assisted through the surrogacy agency, and if you wanted, they gave you the option of buying out your egg donor right? They were that was too. Yeah. I which I did not want because. And Oh, my God some traditional listeners now may start a. Raffle and just disagree with me right I believe. That AH brother or a sister or a mother or father isn't DNA Meaning this woman who I did not buy her out could have donated her eggs to hundreds of gay couples. She probably didn't. But in all possibility, my son and daughter might have daughters might have hundred. There's a limited amount of eggs versus sperm. So I don't think there could be hundreds, but there could there be maybe five or six dozen. Yes. No more than more than five or six because they give these women fertility. ovulate more yeah. It's very, it's very involved. I'm so thankful to everybody has involved from the donor. It's involved from the surrogate and we also shocking they don't even they don't even make that much money. The agency and their lawyer and the fertility clinic and all that crap. They make all the money the surrogate in the donor don't even get that much I. Think I think the surrogate who carried a child for nine months got what twenty thousand dollars which I mean maybe for some people that's a lot of money but to carry a baby i. Give. Her more and the whole process about every child was close to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yes. Wow. A lot of money. Are you thinking you're do you think your family is complete or do you still want to try to have another? They say Thursday's the new. Friday. But with firstly, wine club everyday can feel like Friday you guys know I love my Chardonnay but I also like Rosie I also love Pino I also love a great cab and this is what I love about. 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How did you get out of all those lawsuits I had to pay it's like none of them ended up going to court. So you had just like host. Yeah. Exactly and I ended up wasting millions of dollars in legal bills and settlements. Know when I was young. Like. What I love about the book is I think it's a really honest look at period of time also my upbringing at myself I've been doing what I do now for sixteen years since two thousand and four I feel blessed and thankful that I'm still here. I'm truly grateful to be chatting with you now and being able to talk to your listeners. Take anything for granted. And it's. It's just. Crazy to me that. Let's talk about some of the regrets because I thought that I love it I love that you say that because I say that too I hate when people say I have no regrets you know like I. Don't I give zero fucks dream my Erica J. No, you know everybody gives Fox everyone cars otherwise you wouldn't be doing what you're doing and you wouldn't care about putting on makeup and walking around if you really zero Fox. So shut up your hypocrite not that. But yeah and I think everybody I think you're also not being honest. If you say I have no regrets in life battling regrets and sharing your regrets to be a warning to somebody else is a really wonderful thing to do and some of the things I think it's honest. And all about being honest like not only do I regret wasting money and spending too much and just being an idiot and doing all of those things more so than that because. You know when you're making money, you think you're going to get more money. So at the time I didn't care. I regret that. People were genuinely hurt and. I would actually say that most people probably won't believe me when I say this but I'm so sincere if I could go back in time and do things differently, I would for many reasons. One is it's the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do. I don't WanNa have bad juju negative Karma out there and not only is the right thing to do in hindsight. Now is the right thing to do for other people and for myself because I am still now paying the price for mistakes that I made in my past, I am suffering still in this day and age the consequences of the things that I said. How will be an example? For example. I constantly have peop- many to most people do are not willing to forgive me and that's fine. They're not willing to let me. Grow not willing to see me as something other than that person from two, thousand and seven or two, thousand eight. They WanNa keep me in the past like a prison cell and I've accepted that. That's Okay I. AM hopeful that enough time passing by could change that or heather, and this is a little depressing. You know what also would cure Incredible. Success meaning it all of a sudden God or the universe or whatever or luck blessed me with a TV show and not just any TV show hit TV show. If all of a sudden was on a hit Sitcom or a hit talk show or a hit reality show whatever the everybody loved everybody watched success of that magnitude absolves you of all sin and for people forgive and forget everything and it would definitely make my dating life easier that were to happen. Gay Men. Hate me I've accepted that as well and I know that I deserve. I it because of my own actions and I used to out people and I regret that and I. also got into fights with their diva friends diva people that they admire and beer gonna be on the Gaga side or Demi Levato side or probably Cyrus. Lady Gaga story as one of them touching because I thought it was so interesting. So you blow up you me she you get her, do you know do a concert for free in? Vegas, which is Great Pr, and of course, she was smart enough to do that and to be thrilled to do it there, she gets chosen to open up for backstreet boys on the block. Sorry. Knew Kids Block and and then you you're going along and now at this time you arguing a lot of TV opportunities your you know your guest hosting your guest judging on, Miss America, you're doing the. Ball drop on MTV for all these things that I wasn't even aware that you had that many you know. So you're in the hot and what you're saying is true like for everybody you know when you're in it and it just seems like it's never going to end. It just seems like I can. Now I can start turning down because it's fucking kidding me like it's so great, and then once you've been through that once and it has an and you come around the second time which Kinda you are. Now in this place when the opportunities come again, you'll treat them very differently So you were doing an interview talk show basically right and you she was your guests and you're excited to see her. Tell a little bit about the weird awkwardness that now happened. Now she's a huge star she comes to your interview. So when you're an a plus lister. And maybe even some be listers I don't know depending on who you are and how highly you think of yourself and what kind of a publicist you have. But big stars it is not uncommon for them to only agree to do an interview if a know what questions you're going to ask ahead of time. But because Gaga and I were friends, I didn't have to submit a list of questions to her publicist beforehand. So it wasn't just a traditional interview show that. We were doing we wanted to create moments and have segments and have it really be a fun experience. so I thought cooking with Google and Peres. It'd be a good idea we were down in Australia, and we both began filming the same day that we arrived in Australia. So we both probably had jetlag and we were cooking and drinking, and it started off with just wine and she brought a bottle of Jameson which I don't drink. She switched from wine to Jameson. Bar Thing Baker. Yeah. I. Know I know so she was mixing her Laker jetlagged and then started to drink and started to drink a lot and. There was just a point in the interview where it just got. Uncomfortable because she just didn't want. She's got so drunk at that point right talk and I don't think i. I don't think I asked anything inappropriate like I was her friend and biggest defender. So at the time she'd released the song called Judas which got a little bit of controversy. Or maybe a good amount of controversy and I asked her about that reaction and if she thought it was warranted and she didn't really want to talk about it. I'm like, okay whatever and then I asked, you know with her boyfriend was able to help her and be supportive during that moment and the fact that I even asked about her boyfriend just set her off because. You know how dare you ask about my boyfriend? So then she just stormed off or anything is like you by knowing that they might have been going through a really tough time to like at that time and she just didn't know how to react but go on. And Okay I get it. That happens you know. You you get into disagreements with friends and family. To me even more hurtful thing was it wasn't just that one day with her being really drunk and who knows what else if she she's talked about. Pills and drugs and blah, Blah Blah during that era, she talked about it I'm stern. She's talked about it a few times I only saw her drink a lot and. Then, then we were all in Australia and the TV crew that had all flown from Los Angeles and she refused to film it was hurtful as both a friend and a professional. Yeah. Well, you know because she she really thought I was out to get her and what what are you much. Out to get like it wasn't a Gotcha moment I'm not trying to make you look bad like I. It was more than a friend I used to call her my wife. And now with hindsight, that happened when that was going on? So. Do you not have a personal digits or you couldn't call her or you do idea? Oh okay. Oh, she wouldn't even get on the phone with me. Ida Jer had to basically a baby a child forced her to get on the phone with me and him, and he could mediate a conversation with him because she wasn't answering my phone calls or texts that she was ghosting me and. It was just shocking to me because like I said, I used to call her my wife. It was more than just a friendship. We would talk on the phone and text every day I travel the world with her we were inseparable for years. It wasn't a few months we were inseparable from two thousand and eight, two, thousand, nine, two, thousand, ten, and two thousand eleven. That's almost four years. And then eventually she agreed to finish filming but then things were just never the same after that and I have so many thoughts about it. All you know for a few years after that incident. My initial thought which I still believe is true is her and betrayal and sadness because I was her friend before she was anybody right and I would have still been her friend even if she had never been successful but it is obvious to me that she was just using me she befriended me like Perez, Hilton did all those years ago to get something out of me, and then when she became this huge superstar ended it need me anymore she just cast me aside and that hurt Bu-. Now in two, thousand and twenty, it's been. Close to a decade nine years since all that drama went down I just have a lot of empathy and compassion for her because. Like you said she was. Not even guessing she was going through so much. From drinking and drugging to to even even if. Even if she wasn't drinking and drugging to just being that famous famous. Back I think sometimes. All of a sudden. It's so amazing but it's like a trust thing. You know like all of a sudden they're like, well, maybe I, who can I trust and what does this person want, and then you you have the the super fans in the stands in your ear and What do you call that other word where they? I can't remember but. The the word. For stand what is that word? I'm talking about. Fan Fan sick. Sycophants. Yes. Those people around you and you know, but but I thought it was crazy. Then they the miscommunication series of events when two years later when you're looking for an apartment and you have a whole day of showings with the realtor and you end up looking at a place in her a building and some Gaga fans sees you looking at the place and tweets to her Perez. Hilton is outside of your building stalking you and she. BELIEVES IT and puts out a tweet about it. I mean that I thought was what a crazy story. And it's so funny too I remember that day so well. I went to see close to ten apartments. It was a tour all over Manhattan. And I was about to start yoga. At. I had a private session in my rental. I was staying at a corporate thing and I just couldn't stop crying and couldn't do yoga my yoga teacher instead of doing yoga with me ended up giving me like ricky and a massage and Yeah I did look at a place there and I looked at a place at other places I have no idea where she fricking lived. Like. And to accuse me of stocking her like diluted. But like I said, that was also a difficult time for her that was two thousand and thirteen, and that's when she was releasing that. Applause or the I forget the name of the album applause or whatever You know. I hope and I think. That now she's At a different place in her life but you know it just happens some some people in show business are very loyal. Adel Adel still works with everybody was part of her team when she began Katy Perry still works with the same people on her team that she's had the whole time Justin Bieber same situation Gaga doesn't work with anybody that was part of that original team, her original manager don her original as. Troy Carter God her original ancient a our guy Martin cures bomb dom her original stylists done her original Creative Director Matt? Williams gone her original choreographer lady Orienting Gibson God. She had a falling out with all of these people. So I also learned not to take it personally wasn't about me. It was about her yeah, and that's fine I have I forgive her and I hope that she can forgive me i. hope she can come to a place to understand or know or believe that I. Really wasn't out to get her I genuinely love thought. It was interesting that you put in there that on her rise that she thought that Christina Aguilera was stealing her sound on her album. Wanted wanted you to to you know feature that in your your blog and I thought that was ironic because of course, she's been accused of stealing Madonna sound and it's pretty undeniable. There's certain songs that are you know very Madonna asking even use that the first time you heard. I mean, that's just a fact. Doesn't mean that someone's you know any less talented. It just means like, Hey, you know you're inspired by right? Yes. I just thought that was pretty funny. So did you watch stars born? No so that would have been too difficult but I did listen to the soundtrack and thoroughly enjoy it. Yeah. I just didn't watch the movie 'cause it's not my kind of movie I don't like romance movies like I have never seen the notebook that's not my kind of. I liked superhero movies or fantasy movies or action films. So let's get into Britney you were. You. Now this was what I like to call it juicy scoop history. This was the time where the Paparazzi were there. This is barefoot going to gas stations for all of her meals. You know. Sad we now realize it sad but you couldn't you couldn't get enough of it because it was like what? Now the shaving of the had it the Tarzan a hair salon, the umbrella, the kids that you know. So we're what are your thoughts now looking back at it and what's going on with her now? Well I have a lot of regret with a lot of my coverage. I've already apologized publicly and I will continue to apologize to Brittany and anybody else that I have her in the past I'm not GonNa pull a Kevin Hart moment I don't care if I've already apologized that will continue to apologize at the beginning when things started to unravel with Brittany I and I think a lot of people just thought, oh, she's just doing drugs she's just wild and out. It wasn't apparent to me and many at first that there were mental health issues at play. Right? and. Then when that did become apparent I, think it changed everything. I, think. It's It's a very sad situation to her fans. To not. Ever really be able to know what's the truth nobody really knows what's going on there except for Britney and her family. And all that I can do is wish her well and hopefully. Pray that everybody is doing what they're supposed to do meaning this conservative ship that she is according to her own lawyer apart of voluntarily. That was part of a legal document. Recently, her lawyer said that Britney is choosing to be a part of this conservative ship which I thought was interesting. the conservative ship has to present information at least once a year to the courts and it's reviewed by judge and a ton of independent observers pertz doctors, legal people judges have been looking at this and determining if it really is being done fairly accurately correctly for her best interest and. I don't know I'm not a cynic and I to me family is everything sure her family dynamic is complicated because her entire family maybe with the exception of her sister, everybody else is living off of Britney. Rather. Just gives the sister from. Jamie pro I always say Zoe Wanna one didn't she just give her some play in it like she's also in charge of Yes. SORTA she's a trustee of her state, but she's not part of the conservative. Legal Jungle Legal, Mumbo jumbo I'm sure you have an estate people have been blessed to. Do well in life though set up in a state to protect their assets and their children and so that whenever they were to pass unfortunately died tragically soon, their wishes are carried out and Blah Blah Blah, you know my kids if I were to die not that I have a ton of money saved whatever I have the bank deal only be able to get it. When you turn this age, and then you can get some more at that age whatever it is. So you need people to execute your wishes Brittany sister is that for her but she's not a part of the conservative ship and neither is her dad at the moment her dad was removed as the conservative last year. Now, it's this independent woman who is not related to Britney. In the. To relate maybe she does want it though because you know Chad the horrible Sam. Lofty. Which you mentioned in your book who was her manager during that awful time and how he just clung onto her and found her what are your thoughts on that? Guy. He did the same thing to courtney love afterwards, and now he's got a restraining order out against him from Courtney, he's a sketch person I don't want to say anything because I want to get me or you and any kind of legal trouble. But. Yeah. I could say somebody's sketchy. That's not defaming them. Ray Sketches an appropriate legal word. Vegas. Confused about how they met where he came from it's not like he you know with employed by CAA or something he kinda came out of nowhere to manager. So I think, yeah, people it was it was during very tumultuous time of her life the most. He well, people forget is that during that period of time Britney was so vulnerable and alone completely alone she didn't have I. Don't know why. But her family was not with her at that period of time I think she probably didn't want her family with right she was she was with Sam Lucky. She was no longer working with her previous manager. Larry Rudolph that she now works with again and people were able to infiltrate her life not just Sam Lutfi but those that used to read my website back in the day remember she's to have this girl in her life that we used to call cousin aloe yes but. That wasn't even her real cousin. It was just some another person like Sam Weasel, her way into her life You know I remember everything of that Era Britney would go out every day and do something different something wild something crazy. If you Google stories like she would one day just randomly show up at a random hotel and then we didn't have enough money would ask people for money or just start partying with strangers. And just it was. Yeah, it was unprecedented and the the celebrity culture was so different back then to you know now because instagram and social media, it's really changed the game so much. But in two thousand, seven, Los Angeles was littered with Paparazzi there were so many and they still exist but there's a lot less than they used to be back in two, thousand, seven and Brittany alone every single day she would have at I. Kid You not. Can we curse on your podcast? I Shit you not every day she would have a minimum of. Eighteen Twenty Paparazzi following her which makes no sense because you're all taking the same photo, you're all devouring each other, but they would follow her to be a caravan of people in their cars following her every day, and oftentimes she would get out of her house by herself not go anywhere except just drive for hours at a time in her car and just drive, and at the end of all of that craziness before she ended up getting hospitalized and seeking. The help that she needed things got so bad and crazy. The PAPARAZZI started following her in a helicopter and not only the Paparazzi if you remember and I remember the mainstream news started covering Britney. Spears on the daily as if it was a huge political story and it wasn't been just the top Rasi, helicopter some of the local multiple helicopters following Britney, the local news stations there heather whether whether helicopter they started using that to follow Britney Spears around it was. Unlike anything we've ever seen before and I think the reason for that is because it was all happening at this time where social media really was being born you know twitter started around Dan and my website had already been big and And a ton of copycats came along and. You know. It was like the wild wild west and. All the other girls started to do things to compete and to get attention for back with like we with Lindsay and see what the cry Sean famous one lovely with. No one wearing underwear is your theory with that liber all. Photo Yeah so every so everyone had to get their Kuch Her. and. Then they would choose to wear like a mini dress and knowing that if they stepped out of the car because, I I was taught when I went to like this little John Powers. Modeling Class School when I was twelve and they said You keep your together and you swing your legs out and then you get up so that you don't have a crotch shot will they just full lake out full shot and I was like is and using that was complete deliberate. Absolutely. Wow. Yeah. What did you think of the sex tape era of life? I don't think much of it because. Many people attribute Kim Kardashian success to her sex tape, but I don't because I lived it and I know that actually Paris Hilton is responsible for Kim Kardashian success not the sex tape because of Kim had not before that been basically adopted by Peres Hilton I. Don't know why Paris did this, but she made Kim Her bff and they were inseparable they started to get photographed everywhere Kim used to take her all over the world they would travel together they were part of pop culture moments that will I can't remember where what sort of happened it was. So Paris Nicole Richie which we found out later they were best friends with simple life started they. Kinda, like figured it out who could be her Paris's friend for the show and then now we know that it was you know very scripted and you know acting like they don't know how to do anything. They had a falling falling out and I knew Kris Jenner at that point and I remember going to a lunch with a bunch of women and Chris After shopping her baby store because I'd babies in Calabasas is called smooch and we go to the in place in the Calabasas Commons and she says, Chris Goes I have the most exciting news. Kim has become very good friends with Paris and Paris said, you are my new best friend and Love and may just like a business arrange go saying they will vote and they just they just filmed. This scene where parasol one of her Chihuahua is pregnant and Kim said, let's go get pregnancy tests and get the Chihuahua. Pee on the stick to see if the I was pregnant and the producers just thought that was. So you know funny of Kim that now that she may be joining. A Paris in a new show and I remember going. Oh. I didn't even know can want it to be on TV at. That time. The minor action with Kim was what she was a fashion Easter. They were opening up a store I knew that she was in talks to do like a celebrity closet. You know she was always super organized. All the girls have that ridiculous organizational gene where it's like everything is the same. You know I go from Light Beige to out here all my tall boots Tara. Mesmerized by that but that's the way. Chris's. So she was GonNa do a show on on the style network was just like ease little half sister that didn't laugh and. Where should go in and do like? So she'd done like a pilot for that. And so or maybe that happened after but it was all around that time and I think you're right in that all these seeds and so when I defend her fame to about the sex tape because I'm like the show at e was already in the works. When that sex tape got exposed the the so at ease probably would not have happened if Paris did not know her profile, of course, how do you think they've found? How did they think they even knew about? Kim and her family and her fun sense of humor with the Chihuahua is because Paris exposure to all these people and you know and I, get it because it was like, oh, on the on the The documentary they said Kim. Perez Hilton's four. Assist. Makes a lot of sense because when you're Paris Hilton, you need you assisted. But why not have a fun friend that's pretty and you get along with WHO's the delight who's good with fashion? Who's your friend and that's trustworthy. So I think their friendship was truly genuine and it's sweet. See them now. Friendly again. Yeah but Kim did learn so much from Paris like not just the sex tape Kim also saw Paris do what she did with me Paris was friends and still is friends with. So many of the people that used to work US weekly or people and and would directly talk to them. Some celebrities would say, oh, up my publicist to schedule something abo-about Peres would have that direct connection and she would. Also have that direct connection with the Paparazzi, which is Kim. kardashian would do to, and you know what's funny is that Kim Kardashian still sets up Paparazzi photos. You would think she would it because she's now in Allaster and has eclipsed Paris Hilton in fame, but she will still not often but I remember like the most recent time it happened well, the most recent time it happened was just to promote her. Fashion things she was doing. So she used the Paparazzi to promote her fashion but before that she went on vacation somewhere and she had the Paparazzi, meet her on vacation so that whatever beach photos were released, they were approved by her and photo shopped and not like unflattering or whatever eight. But I. I like Kim and I don't have a bad thing to say about her I think it's important to say that as well well, you. REGRET THERE So you were. He does she put you in her at that fun average. I don't know if it exists anymore. I don't think that was kind of like an era of and for people that would go and and the whole thing was how to make it in. Hollywood. So you go to the hot spots and and then you'd go meet you know the famous blogger, Perez Hilton in your featured in it. And then one day just woke up and did what? You know I I said earlier that I'm a little crazy by a little crazy. I mean a lot but I think that's one of the reasons why I've been successful because Aljaz do crazy thing. That that aren't very well thought out. It happened in August of two, thousand, nine, two, thousand fifteen and around that time it was Kylie Jenner's birthday and I think she was turning eighteen and it was such a big to do about. Kylie. Jenner turning eighteen and I had started to follow Kylie Jenner on instagram and it just did not make me feel good. I was like, why am I following Kylie Jenner on Instagram I don't like her what does she adding to my life? She bringing me joy Blah Blah and then it's just like she's getting all this attention and it was about the lips than this and that and I just thought it'd be smart and clever and a fun idea to do a one week break from all things Kardashian I called the Kardashian cleanse with the K.. Yeah yeah I thought it was just silly and fun and cute. I didn't think it was nasty mean cruel or hurt for we do it with the intention of hurting. Yeah. But obviously now I think Kim probably saw it differently like or just as a betrayal. Fu like Oh my God what what what you know. I. Put you in the thing I thought we were friendly. Yeah. Yeah. But I was at that it was just playful yeah billy. Only getting them more bright and there's GONNA. BE YOU'RE GONNA be fine? Yeah. Yeah and my my car dashing cleanse was only going to get them more press. I thought we would both win from it but yeah, she didn't decided to. Take me out of her game, but it's fine. I cashed my check before. Even, that's good. I thought another really juicy thing that I've got to ask you about is John. Mayer. So. You Know Jessica. Simpson data, John Mayer, and a lot of people really enjoyed her book. I read it as well. It was very honest very juicy and it was on it and I just you know she was a virgin when she married her husband and then she got with John Mayer and it was seems like it was a very sexual relationship and your story in here is very juicy. Say you're at a nightclub And Jessica. While, let you tell it. I gotTa Applaud Jessica for being as forthcoming in her book she because I'm very forthcoming in my book and I had been working on mine before she had even announced hers and in my book I mentioned that she was a big boozer. So it surprised me and also made me happy to hear. From her when she came out with her book that she admitted to that, and also that she's now sober and hasn't drank in a few years. So it was a long time ago I think it was two, thousand, seven or two, thousand Ed's It's two, thousand, six going into two, thousand seven and we were all this club in Chelsea. And John, Mayer was aware of me. And I I had just hosted MTV new. Year's Eve that night and he rolls up and I had been there with Christina Aguilera. Before. Christina and I had are falling out of a lot of volley out to people. Maybe. The problem is made maybe before you on this story, do you know if this was before or after he dated Aniston. Before? Yes, I think you're right before. Okay continue. So I had been there with Christina John Rolls Up Jessica and then just comes right at me and we just start talking and let me tell you. Fascinating conversation at if you know people, you probably know you know this to be true. Yes. He starts talking to me about gay porn ad specifically about his favorite gay porn star that he loves watching and I've heard now from multiple people that when John Maher at least in the past, I don't know about now. But previously when he would hook up with women, he would watch. Gay Porn. Some people might find that interesting or whatever. You know I that I heard that about Hugh Hefner to. Oh. Never heard that Jim. I, mean not sucking. He was like a huge stripe eating. Whatever goes? Does sorta surprise you when you say? Such about women you know that thou I drive them on. I bet you my left testicle. The John Mayer has at least made out with Andy Cohen probably repeatedly. I know them both you know they have anyways the thing about John Mayer. He is one of those hyper intellectual people right? He's so smart that he's too smart for his own good and he oftentimes is his own worst enemy. He's trying to Europe Data Jessica talks about that a lot in her book. I haven't read her book. Yeah. It. It made her insecure because he was very lake kind of critical of if she used the wrong words or if she tried to write him attack, she'd like have. Check it and make sure that you know like just annoying. So anyway, go on. But I think he's very bright obviously but go on. Yeah. So all of a sudden in the midst of our conversation, he starts kissing me and not a playful thing like a make out with tongue and not short. It was going on for at least a minimum an accurate. For, sure minimum of five minutes. So that's a long time like I'm seeing everything happening outside of my body and I'm losing my mind I was drinking. Don't know what they were doing. They were drinking maybe more I don't know. While this is all going on Jessica's with him. It was during her Brunette phase she had her dark brown hair and she did not want to see it. So I remember vividly using her long hair to cover her face. So she could pretend to not see what was happening but while he was doing that, she then started rubbing his deck and it was just like the weirdest thing. His pants. Over his pads over his pants a few years after that, and then how did they? How did the evening end? Friendly like that John Mayer and I were friendly like was that it Continues to drink and dance. To their. Location? No. No. That was it and then he was friendly to yeah. Yeah and then we were friends for a couple of years after that I went over his house in her or his Lofton. Either it was in Soho. So her TRIBECA, I, don't remember one of those Has New York Loft a couple times. Blah. Blah Blah. I forget the year, but John Mayer did a cruise. On their own cruises he put on this John Mayer crews and that was when those iconic photos of him in that Green Man Kini were released I'll. Men Kini right. It was from his cruise and he also performed that crews and he also did stand up in that. I remember this and he was trying to be a standup phase. He was always at the Improv and all into being around comics all the time and I think he even performed. Dave. Chapelle a few times. Oh. Yeah. Grandma's. More than. He does that regularly like for New Year's Eve with him. So he did a stand up set and he confessed that he did indeed make out with me. Prior and it's on video. It's on Youtube if you WANNA if you want to search it and he he basically said I quote I wanted to out Perez Perez look he wanted to get into my mind and mind fuck me and out shocked me out whatever me. So that's why in his mind he did what he did but as a big old flaming homosexual. I don't know any heterosexual man that will tongue kiss for five minutes. Another guy I'm not saying he's gay but I'm saying he's not straight either way. I agree with that. The other part is I went to one of your fabulous parties when you're fabulous birthday parties. The Blue Ball one where everyone will blue presses. and. I'll post a photo on Instagram I. Don't have a photo with you unfortunately, but I do have one with Kyle, Richards, Camille grammer and Taylor Armstrong. Beverly Hills Housewives, and now it's a pretty fun party that was a pretty great here. You're probably after. That year I had a deed of on Tees Perform A. Act For me Darren Criss performed from Glee because I was on glee and I was also obsessed with the show. Selena Gomez surprised me and came and sang me happy birthday. It was diva you know. I pinch myself like I still am in shock and disbelief that I've been able to do half of the things that I have because they've gone beyond my wildest dreams from. Being on Glee to opening the circus tour for Brittany, I was in the opening video montage to being in SM music video you know things that will exist forever that are a part of history. I was one of the things kind of then change. She said, it was when you did the video about it gets better for gay teens bullied, and that's when everybody started pointed out the fact that you're being quite hypocritical being that you've really bullied everybody for ten years on your website and. What happened what was the was that? BASICALLY THE TURNING POINT that. Was the the straw that broke the camel's back as they say but I had begun already having those thoughts prior to that. I began my blog in September of two, thousand four and my career as Perez Hilton. And then in January of two, thousand eight, I decided to stop being a fat fuck and get on this journey of health and wellness and. I successfully did that and for me I've noticed that the healthier I was the happier I was that doesn't mean that I was miserable before but. It just meant that I was even happier after I became healthy. so When I became happier I started having happier. And just thinking, should I change how I do things and I was hiding those thoughts for a year and a half but I was afraid to make that change was paralyzed by fear because I had been doing. What I would doing for close to a decade by that point and I established myself and my brand or certain way I was just afraid of losing it all what would happen if I did change but They're came that turning point where I said you know what I have to make a change because I've turned into somebody that I know in my heart I'm not when I, started blogging it was because I'm a fan of celebrities and. Internet culture social media. Can Be an is toxic a lot of times, and if you're in it and you're doing it, it can become progressively even more so more evil and more nasty and like I did not like who I became and I lost touch with reality and with myself. I would tell myself justify my behavior by saying things like well I don't care if people don't like me because it's not the real me that they don't like. It's this character that I created but that's bs because I was writing these words I was responsible even though it was his character. And you know I would say things like you know if if celebrities don't like what I'm saying, they shouldn't read it just like dumb stunned but but it would still get to them. You know even if they didn't read what I had to say somebody would bring it up in an interview or this or that or the other. So yeah, I was. A scary time but I did it for the right reason. and. I don't have any regrets about the change even though some people might say, Oh, probably did hurt your career and you know. It says a lot about humanity that whenever I would post lake. A leaked sex tape or nudie photos or whatever people WANNA see that? Also in your honest about the regrets with Your Business and whatnot is that you turn down a bad girls reunion to host bad girls reunion. Now turn that down because you were thinking it was you know again down that negative road or what was the reason for turning down and regarding that? So. You know like I said earlier when you're really successful and you're making a ton of money and having a ton of opportunities you naively and that's your first time experiencing that you think it's going to be like that forever and it's not always that that way it's probably not that way for most people even the superstars have their ups and downs even Jennifer Lopez has had a. Wave of a career it's not just been steadily up up up up up. So I was lucky enough to be asked to host the bad girls club reunion specials, and I did that for many seasons and I enjoyed it. But then I had this change where I didn't want to be so negative anymore and I felt like the show had really turned and it went from just being. A Fun, caddy reality show to being really dark and the women were being very violent with each other like like really violent. So I quit now I regret that because. You know I want to be doing more television that's the I've done a lot of television but I've never been blessed with a consistent steady home on television and I've achieved so much in my career I am so blessed to be the original influenza. But if you pair that with traditional media, then you get the Kardashians. There's a reason why Kris Jenner and her family stayed on that show for fourteen year because they were smart enough to know that that was the gas in the car that kept it running and kept all these other opportunities coming their way, and now the point now where they're just billionaires, they don't really need to keep that show going but Perez Hilton on the other hand doesn't fuck you money in the bank and has to worry and stress about all of his bills and the Fi- people that he supports my three kids my sister and my mom so. Yeah, it's craziness and so besides the book coming out which there's even more in here, you get into amy wine house until Tequila. What was your beef? Because I, with Charlie Demilio from tiktok stardom? Most of your listeners probably don't even know who she is, but she is the most followed person on tectonics. And back in March she uploaded a video of herself off at the beach in a bikini. Dancing to the song with lyrics that go like this, I can't take big Dick, but I'll suck on it Blah but I'll hop on it. I'm like, okay and then she was dancing very sexually and she was fifteen at the time. So I asked a question on the video I said is this really appropriate and that's Perez. Twenty twenty okay. says. Two, thousand seven probably said something very different. But I just said, is this appropriate an just because I asked that question her fans ripped me two pieces for months for months like sending me death. Eluded, they're all OH. Yes. Yeah and and that made me sad because it's so normalized on that APP to send people. And they call they don't I haven't seen well, thankfully, they've either blocked me or ignored me or maybe they they. They start to like me now I don't know but those comments aren't around anymore. They used to call them fairy comments and they would put these berries and then in between the ferries, they would leave you the most awful saying like you're batty but without the bad, get it die your body but without the bad. And like What. What are what Zodiac sign are you? I think you're a cancer I. Hope you get it all like. They would leave comments like that, and it's like I would hope that it is eleven year olds and ten year olds that see their friends in does that it's okay and but you know what? After doing what I do now for sixteen years not gets to me I, don't care. And I looked to my great fairy godmother in the Sky Joan. As, my ultimate inspiration. For sure I'm not anywhere near as talented as she was, but I am fucking talented. I am a star and I'm incredibly hard working and this is very true. If anybody wants to succeed in show business, they need to watch documentaries. because. It is so insightful for many reasons. For a long point in my career back to you were saying about. I'm an oath easiest I I don't think. I, even mentioned this in the book I, partnered with one of the executive producers of the Oprah, Winfrey show to develop and launch a talk show. We pitched it to everybody and everybody fucking passed and that's fine but I didn't give up on that dream. So for a long time for maybe like five years, my vision was myopic it was. So laser focused all that I cared about was a talk show a panel show whatever I deserve a talk show. Why am I talk show? They're launching the talk of the Real Mola and then Joan died and it's crazy to think that it happened. So long ago now. She died in two thousand and four, hundred, eighteen six years ago now, and that was around the time that I was celebrating my ten year anniversary. So that was just a natural time of reflection from the prior to that. My vision was my pick and I was turning down a lot of opportunity saying stupid shit like Oh, that's lame. That's not cool. That's not good for my brand stupidity. Now, my brand is you want to pay me to do something I'll fuck. Don't get the. Same, with Joan never turned on any work I. loved it exactly and you know, I actually think that having lost so much money in lawsuits and having wasted so much money on stupid shit like a fancy car that it needed a fancy house that I didn't need having interior illusions. Who Does the decor on drag race decorate my house decorate my old house. You know. I. Didn't need any of that but having done all of that like it now helps me say guess two more because I need to say, yes to more necessity is keeping you hungry and keeping you out there keeping you pushing keeping me motivated and keeping me working grinding as hard as I do if I had my fucking money in the bank, I probably would be forgotten about by now and I probably wouldn't care because the whatever I'm loaded. I. Don't care. Or if you had that, fuck you bunny. Maybe wouldn't be happy. Maybe, I would be finding. I don't know but if you weren't really doing anything, I'm saying if you had so much money. From doing something you don't know I'm just I would be. I would be the opposite if I had fuck you money if I had Kerr Dash in money. I'm just. I'm an addict people who are addicts are addicts. I'm not addicted to drugs or alcohol, but I'm addicted to food and thankfully got that under control now and I'm also addicted to work in my mind I think well, it would help if I had money I would still be addicted to work but at least I wouldn't be afraid of. Haitian. I would still work like the workaholic that I do but I'd be like, all right I'm not gonNA take a week long vacation not check my phone and not be available at all. The last vacation I had was in January when I did this Australian reality show called. I'm a celebrity get me out of here and they put me in the fucking jungle and Baird me in the ground with a hundred snakes that was a vacation because I didn't have my laptop or my cell phone glued team. Other than that, I'm working all the time and I'm being a father of three kids. So you know like I said at the very beginning of our show. Wonderful because my book is out and I'm so happy for people to read and I'm so proud of it. But I'm also like my body is falling apart because for the last week and a half, I've been getting less than four hours of sleep a night. That's not healthy. Why? Because you're so anticipating they'll have so much to. Have so much work to do like I've been doing tons of press yesterday, the Spanish language show, and in addition to all of the press and like even just like social media is worth. Give. My publisher gave me a publishing schedule like on this stage published this and then okay, I got to publish it on Instagram on tiktok on twitter on snapchat tumbler on facebook on Youtube little like that takes so much time and my podcast takes time and everything. So it's like If I had my money I would still work as hard as I do because it's in my DNA I have to thank my parents and being Latino being the son of immigrants for my success because they came to this country from Cuba with nothing and made something of themselves and my parents instilled in me that incredible work ethic from day one and it wasn't just to work hard. I remember my dad may he rest in peace? He told me and my mom that I didn't have to work hard I had to work harder than everybody else the bar was so high for me that if I ever got a b plus my parents were disappointed, they expected me to be a straight a student and I was thankfully and my kids I'd kind of in the same way. I mean if they get a plus like their go to one of those schools where they don't give them grade right thankfully for now but I tell them every day we'd go over our six or eight months of taken up to eight eight most important things in life number one is family and number two is to work very hard and I've told my kids I will love you and support you when. You're grownup up no matter who you are no matter what you do with one exception you can't be lazy, right I will not tolerate or accept laziness because I'm not going to make shit happen for them. Once my kids are graduated from college whatever little money I have left this bitch here is going to use up all that money before I die I will start getting massages again that start traveling internationally again. Treating Myself. So, let me ask you one more question before I. Let you go. Where are you still friends friendly with Lindsay Lohan. Very much. So we still talk and DM, and she's still just as Wackadoo has ever and I love that about her. And where is she now? Do you know? Actually, my God, I'll give you my God God I'll tell you something exclusive I'll show you may. Give it to me. You know I people may be surprised by this, but I love to help people and I am an idea person, my brain con- like if I had my fuck you money I'd be launching TV shows for myself and for. I'd give I'd give you a show I'd give this this chef that I follow on Tiktok is show I'd be like creating my own network and doing all these things I'd be doing musical theater just for shits and giggles because I fuck you money in the bank. So I have all these ideas I emailed. Let look it up like an actual is a kind of it'd be kind of rude to actual show the DMZ but I'll paraphrase pair for any. That's good. Okay. So I just I just had this idea as lindsay you should either tweet or do an instagram story or a post or something about Paris's documentary and congratulate her because that would get you press. And she's like well, I haven't watched it and I'm like well fuck and watch it or just say something or just congratulate her you don't have to watch it congratulate her so she didn't do it but that was a good idea. So. I. Love Hoping. That you know by now. But I'm glad that she's friendly I. I've better a few times to I haven't spent a few years of senior but I hope she's doing well. Here's another funny thing to right before the pandemic she called me and I didn't know the number. So I don't answer any number that I don't know right but. But. Like I told you, I was expect I was I was getting ready to do this. Australian. TV show which I ended up doing I'm a celebrity get me out of here and it was in Australia number. So I thought Oh. Maybe somebody from the show is calling me. So I was with my sister at the time I gave her the phone and I said answer it because I don't want to answer it just in case it was like my number leaked or whatever, and she's like she puts it on pause and she says It's Lindsey Lo Han I'm like what? I answer the phone I started talking to her and she's like Hey, I. Just WanNa. Let you know I'm going to be in town in few months and I'm doing this short film and I want you to come on set and I want to do something exclusive with you because we have history and I was like, okay, cool. Fabulous and then I hung up and I'm like that was weird as fuck. Are you calling me in January Abou- something that's going to go down in May or westbound to go down in. May like why not call me two weeks before you're in town just let me know about your short film or whatever like. It was this weird. She's still wonder. Happen because there was no man. Yeah. No, it didn't happen but you know. The same thing with Britney the same thing with Lindsay even the same thing with Paris. You know I grew up with these girls and I'm rooting for them. You want to see them happy and successful and. I wish that for them I wish that for Lady Gaga I wish that for you I wish that even for Chelsea handler. In my opinion. This book everybody a crazy ass cover but good show off your good body. I. Like it Chia my my life and scandal Perez. Hilton. It is out today. Tuesday October six. Correct. Airing and do an audio book is well I did. I was so. It was it was like a roller coaster like I had been away from the text for a few months. So then reading it out loud I'm like I started crying. And obviously podcast listeners. Love to do audio too. So if you don't want to read the book on the hardcover on your killer computer, you can get the audio version as well and lots of juice. so much more juice than I love. We get his childhood and some good stories about that and your early Days York working for Star magazine so much that I wanna give it all away because I want you guys to buy the book and read. And or listen to Peres and I was great talking to you for having me.

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Hotels Clean Up Their Acts to Win Guests Confidence

Business Wars Daily

05:48 min | 4 months ago

Hotels Clean Up Their Acts to Win Guests Confidence

"Does, your team spend more time on processes than building the product Miro is an online collaborative whiteboard used by product teams around the World Organiz user research gathered designed feedback and build amazing products together on one infinite canvas. Create your free account today, mirrow dot com slash VW daily. That's M I R. O. DOT COM SLASH VW daily. From wondering I'm David. Brown and this is business. Whereas daily on this Monday June twenty second as if we needed another reminder of how hard the hotel industry has been hit by Covid nineteen on Tuesday, Hilton Worldwide Holdings announced that it would cut two thousand one hundred corporate jobs across the US, roughly sixty percent of hotel rooms are empty, according to research firm SDR and that doesn't include the thousands of hotels it of closed for good since the beginning of the pandemic. But summer vacation season is upon us, and Hilton is trying to convince customers. It's safe to check in again to do so. They're coming clean about their virus. Safety measures and launching a new campaign called the clean stay program to WANNA. Be Vacationers out of their homes. Hilton has assembled a virus fighting a team that includes the maker of Lysol and the Mayo. Clinic's infection prevention and control team. Team goal is to enhance existing disinfecting and safety measures and ultimately to bolster travelers confidence. The hotel is looked at virtually every area. It's operations and found ways to reduce infection risk loyalty program members can use an APP for contactless check in each room is secured with a clean stay seal after cleaning to show. It's been disinfected with the hotels. New rigorous standards frequently touched areas like lights. Lights which is door handles. TV, remotes get extra cleaning, attention and disinfecting wipes are provided for gas use common areas like lobbies restaurants, fitness centers have been rearranged for social distancing and restaurants ditched buffets in favor of safer options like covered dishes and grab and go items not to be left in the dust. Marriott is also calling in the COVID nineteen reinforcements. The Hilton competitor created the Marriott Global. Global Cleanliness Council, recruiting infection, prevention and food safety experts from ECOLAB adventist health care and purdue and Cornell University's virus fighting upgrades include hospital grade disinfectant increased surface, cleaning, limited contact and additional training Marriott has also rolling out enhanced technologies, including electrostatic sprayers, which can quickly disinfect fitness, centers, pool, areas, and other spaces, and the companies, testing ultraviolet light technology to sanitize keys and devices shared by associates. But is an extreme safety makeover enough to coax customers out of their homes. It might be the pandemic has created pent up, demand for travel also called revenge spending a June survey by destination analysts family at one in five people are already traveling with no hesitation and seven ten have plans to do so by the end of the year. As these brands try to do each other's squeaky clean practices. Third Party experts are getting in the game to the global bio. Risk Advisory Council a division of the Cleaning Trade Association Issa. Now offers the Gbi A. C. Star certification, hotels, restaurants, and other venues can earn the distinction by having the proper chemicals, equipment and procedures in place to remove harmful pathogens. The program began accepting applications may seventh Marriott and Hilton. Competitor Hyatt is the first hotel brand to commit to getting. All of its property certified the Chicago Tribune reports. Of course such change requires big investments in products, technology and training at a time when revenue is down, but new virus hotspots are emerging, and a vaccine or cure is still on the relatively distant horizon, so hotel brands are doubling down on better hygiene to get nervous trawlers back on the road. Booking those empty hotel rooms. From this business wars daily aid. You like this episode share with a friend or a colleague widget. You can do that directly for most podcast. APPs word of mouth helps grow for that. We thank you. I'm David Brown will be back with tomorrow. Support for business wars daily comes from mirrow. Group experienced director for Dell Jason. Zach leads a team of thirty five designers and project managers across different DEL offices and Jason needed to find a way for his distributed team to brainstorm ideas generate solutions and track tasks together without flying everyone in and then Jason. 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