17 Burst results for "Herb Ritts"
"herb ritts" Discussed on Photofocus Podcast
"I had studios around the corner from each other for eight years like literally like you could see out the door and we never met so anyway. George george rented my studio and so everything he shot from. Nineteen eighty until nine in the two. He shot in my studio and the list of celebrities just kind of goes on and on and on i. Two years of herb ritts his career. He also rented my studio. They had the same Rep and i knew the rep. So that's how that happened so it was an amazing experience to to see how george worked. I mean really the master. The master master master portrait photographer As well as Really funny and wonderful stories about celebrities as well as some really horrible well for our listeners especially young listeners. That are relatively not necessarily young but their new listeners. New to the industry this is an outrageously small industry. We've all been the same rubber chicken dinners together. We can all play the three degrees six degrees. Whatever it is of kevin bacon game all connect back to somebody. You could pick almost anybody in the industry and we're going to find a connection there And remember that because part of that network. And that's like what you're talking about now. And you know with with herb ritts and with george hurrell and you guys is around the corner from each other and it never met but i guarantee that over a lot of those years. They're probably a whole bunch of the same friends that you shared. Oh yeah yeah so. Let's let's jump in it. This is going to be hard. It's a hard podcast to keep Are time limited today with just hit lightly on some of the key things that you guys found that that helped you and not just surviving the pandemic but now coming out of it and getting back to trying to build your business back up again. Because i know i mean we talked a lot during this time and there were some pretty bleak stretches there especially like the first six months. Yeah we were it was. It certainly was hit hard week. We came back from our venice carnival photo tour and within three weeks everything that we had planned for next year and a half was gone and It was you know it was pretty devastating and quite honestly. I hit the wall. I kind of shut down. I shut down on just about every level. I didn't touch the camera for well over a month. And i took my energy into cooking but cooking really healthy delicious wonderful meals. Both of us have lost twelve to fourteen pounds in the last hour during the pandemic which is kind of the opposite of most people and that's to do with my cooking but so the all my creativity was going into that and then i think that help me just like i had to shut photography down but i had to be creative so in doing that. My creativity came back. And then i picked up the camera again. And i have been working on personal projects Specifically i've been doing stuff with flowers which is very different from what you think of with. Most people shooting flowers and i have probably now shot more for myself in the last year and a half than i have at any time in my career so it was kind of like taking a right turn to do something else that brought me back into it and fully into it like. I think that. I've made some of my most favorite photographs ever in the last year. But it's all been self directed after hitting the wall. I my situation i had. I had this like or i had a kind of part time gig producing webinars for this business management company. And what happened you know. We lost everything. All of our normal photo. Business just went out the window and this company has an online division. And that's what. I was working for their sort of online education division. Which was the kind of poor stepchild of the company. They didn't pay any attention to it. Because there are primarily in person education operation they have facilities in new york and san francisco and chicago all over the place and When the pandemic hit everything went online. So i suddenly had a fulltime job producing webinars for this company and that sort of sustained me through most of this pandemic and only recently have they. They've flag let all their producers go. They've cut back and reorganize things. And now i don't have that but now we're coming out of the pandemic and we were booking workshops and so i i kind of like floated us across that that yeah tavern and very grateful for for lee canal you know. He took one for the team and doing that. But the hard part of this say this an fill in is that it. It really was a it sucks creativity and it was because it was really all technical and You know he. He really was You've got a little depressed. I did. I did but i mean like anybody it was. It was a miserable kind of experience but Now we're out of it. So how are you now. not so bad. Yeah no. I think we both sort of bounce back and we. We got new infrared camera. Conversions just going crazy. Yeah we're we're gonna infrared right now with color infrared doing some very different stuff with that. So we're working on some workshops. And i'm gonna do online education for this infrared post processing while that's very you know it's interesting hearing everyone's personal story going through the pandemic and bobby you mentioned yourself. Decided personal projects and lee. You mentioned how you it up where you were depressed because you know you said you weren't able to be very creative with what you were doing. That leads me to my next question. I'm curious so both kind of talk about the importance of fostering creativity personal projects and contingent continuing education as well. Just why is that important to us as creative says photographers. Well i mean. I think it's critical that you you continue to grow and to do that. You need to challenge yourself. You need to kind of get like you know sort of cliche but you have to get out of your comfort zone and do something. You're not used to doing so that you can really learn something. And i think initially holding back and been afraid and getting wrapped up in the whole.
"herb ritts" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD
"We'll talk about that in a few moments, but just getting back to spin. Bob, if you could indulge me a few moments here and we think of those iconic spin covers with Madonna. And of course, you know the Lollapalooza one of Kurt Cobain, I guess was published after his death, which was like the biggest seller any other favorite covers from spin over the years. Oh, many, many many. I mean, you said McDonald. That was our first cover. Um 19 8 march of 1985. And I believe is her first ever cover. The photographer Herb Ritts was his first of a cover, so it's kind of nice. Moment for everybody, Uh, A great way to baptize magazine. Louis did many. Covers with Kirk. Me and In the van. We did the first ones then. 119 91, I think with President, um The one you're referring to is after he died. It was the The biggest seller of the magazine because he was such a hero to our Readership and he was a friend of mine is actually very close to him. We were friends because I never wanted anything from him. I was the only guy either. The world around him. It wasn't asking for something with them. So he sort of got me is kind of a big brother called me up. He had problems with his wife. Ask for advice, and he he asked me for advice. My going on that lost loved blew the door. I said, Don't cower. The biggest rock star in the world. That's gonna change that. You don't need this. Event unhappy about in that. Against doing it. Don't do it. You know, if you maybe if you're not in control of you From Korea at this point It wasn't any better. You're the biggest stars in the world, but his management in the end kind of pressure them to do it. And there was I think that was part of what Brought him down. Franklin was Drug addict wasn Uh, actually, depression comes with that, but he was top of that. Rest. And so I just don't think was emotion stable enough and No, he wasn't ready for that kind of superstardom. Some people off And also most No superstars and In rock music took He used to get there. You know the YouTube would those for a long time, you know? The Beatles got every quickly but Demonic appearing like this flash was there. And they want the mostly right. He wasn't emotion rich for the others work. No, it was a tragic guy. Paper covers. You know what my favorite ever was? However, we did, which is the theme of the issue was the search for the soul of rock and roll. And I think It was The guy from the replacements was on the cover. Actually, that's a good name pulls on it. But the issue was great because I said to my right is that meet me at the airport at nine A.m.. They all came to the body. And something that was just connecting flight to some of the directly and I said, I'm not telling you we going address Whether it's the cold with him. It will be one of the other and that's ruh. And when they got to the airport, I gave them tickets. Cash. In their instructions and where they were going. And I said You're gonna go search for the solar rock'n'roll. I'm not Tony, where you going until the morning of your flight because they don't want any preconceived notions this before Google before the Internet was Ubiquitous, but the media even heard of him in this fight. What Research mean going the library But I don't want to be researching where they were going. And I said, just go walk around the streets, Go to clubs go to bars. Talk to people. You'll know it when you see it, find it. It was fantastic. Because each right who was the real great writers? Um, you know, they They went in. They just live within opens. Obviously knows in mind and you know, open door experiences. And in their wage of them found the soul of record. Rose. It was a great best issue having me over there. No, It's not a great covers. Make like one of my favorite visually with the first you need cover. NATO comma. And many, many great covers. I just have one more spin question, I promise. And then we're gonna move on to Daniel Project Wonder wonder. Let's travel and that has to do with live aid and this expose that you did as spin. On live aid. The idea that the money that was intended for you know Ethiopian famine relief didn't necessarily go to Ethiopian famine relief. Oh, no, I did not not believing it wasn't even like there was leakage. There was a complete diversion. Um, what happens is one of the stories are most proud of in all the years we Well that I probably spent and forest sold in 1987. Um What happened was this dinner party? My father's house long enough. And somebody that it was advancing guests unhappy people that, um Somebody's there, Woz. I can remember it will release a dwork or something for the U. N. Any Eladio Cruz in and use of time on Dr Ate. It happened, you know, six months earlier, and he said, people are real is this If you visit war, there's a civil war going And You know, resistance is this famine? That's actually a whole war going on. So every stuck me the next morning I went in the office and my sister. Is interning with us s O said record project. We've got a lively so we can find out about Ethiopia. In a civil war. Well in those days had to go to the library and look at microfiche. Um, you know, in these sort of viewing machines because you know thousands of pages of newspapers if you found that some of the bridge papers Um Work. In the Indian paper from Heaven. English well reporting on the civil war..
"herb ritts" Discussed on KIRO Radio 97.3 FM
"We'll talk about that in a few moments, but just getting back to spin Bob, if you could indulge me a few moments here and we think of those iconic spin covers with Madonna. And of course, that you know the Lollapalooza, one of Kurt Cobain, I guess was published after his death. Which was like the biggest seller any other favorite covers from spin over the years. Oh, many, many many. I mean, you said the MacDonald. That was our first cover. Um 19 8 months of 1985. And I believe was her first ever cover. In this apartment for Herb Ritts was his first ever cover, so it's kind of nice. Moment for everybody, Uh, A great way to baptize magazine Louise Many Others would hurt me and And the one we did the first ones on Ben. 1991 I think with the president. Um The one you're referring to is after he died. It was the The biggest seller of the negative because he was such a hero to our Readership and he was a friend of mine is actually very close to him. We were friends because I never wanted anything from him. I was gonna gave the world around him. It wasn't asking for something over them. So he sort of got to me is kind of a big brother called me up. He had problems with his wife. Was for advice in me. He asked me for advice. My going on that lost lost loser door. I said, Don't cower. The biggest rock star in the world that can change. You don't need this. Event unhappy about in that. Against doing it. Don't do it. You know, if you maybe if you're not in control of you From Korea at this point It doesn't get any better get the biggest stars in the world, but his management in any kind of pressure them to do it. Um And there was I think that was part of what Boredom down. Franklin was Drug addict. Listen. Uh, actually, depression comes with that, but he was top of that. Breast. And so I just don't think was emotion stable enough, and I think No, he wasn't ready for that kind of superstardom. Some people off And also most No superstars and in rock music took Why he used to get there. You know, there's a YouTube would stars for a long time. You know, the Beatles got every quickly that Demonic up there like the flash was there. And they want to mostly right. He wasn't emotion rich for the others will Oh, no, It was a tragic I paper covers. You know what my favorite ever was? Cover We did, which is a theme of the issue with the search for the soul of rock and roll. And I think It was The guy from the replacements was on the cover. Actually, I forget his name pulls on it. But the issue was great because I said to my right is that meet me at the airport at nine AM, Okay, everybody. And something that was just connecting flight to somebody's directly and I said, I'm not telling you we going address So whether it's the cold with him. It will be one of the other and that's where you wish. And when they got to the airport, I gave them tickets cash. In the instructions. And where they were going. And I said You're gonna go search for the solar rock'n'roll. I'm not telling you where you going until the love the morning of your flight because I don't want any preconceived notions notices before Google them before the Internet was Ubiquitous but maybe even heard of him in this fine, but Research mean going the library? But I didn't Anybody researching where they were going? And I said, just go walk around the streets, Go to clubs go to bars. Talk to people. You'll know it when you see it, find it. It was fantastic. Because each right who was the real great writers? Um you know, they They went in. They just we're gonna open. I was an open mind and you know, over the experiences. And in their wage of them found the soul of Russia Rose. It was a great best issue, Eric Negative. No, It's not a great couples making like one of my favorite visually with the first you need cover. NATO comma. And many, many great covers. I just have one more spin question, I promise. And then we're gonna move on to 10 Project under Wonder. Let's travel and that has to do with live aid in this expose that you did at spin. On live aid. The idea that the money that was intended for you know Ethiopian famine relief didn't necessarily go to Ethiopian famine relief. How will that did Not not believing it wasn't even like there was leakage? There was a complete diversion. Um, what happens is one of the stories are most proud of in all the years we Well that I probably spent and forest sold in 1987. Um What happened was this dinner party? My father's house coming up. And somebody that it was advancing guests. Fantastic. People don't know. Um Somebody's there, Woz. I can't remember. Ever release aid work or something for the U. N. I mean, the CEO prison and use of time on Dr Ate. It happened, you know, six months earlier. He said. People are realism. You can't visit war. There's a civil war going And You know, really sees this defendant the sex the whole war going on. So they really stuck me. The next morning I went in the office and my sister. Was interning with us. So said Record project we go Live me so we can find out about Ethiopia. Civil war. Well in those days had to go to the library and look at microfiche. Um, you know, in these sort of viewing machines, Ugo, you know thousands of pages of newspapers. If you found that some of the British papers Work. In the Indian paper from having English well reporting on the civil war. Do you think she came back to the office later that night? The face of action. This is a bully with family is man made. In the needs of his family. See, every year we feel he has problems. Sundays have bad families. But even in the bag family is they can cope with it that this is not normal to them. But this particular one was created by the The Philippine government against these secessionist rebels wanted to form Eritrea. And did it was Indian woman Um and so they were napalm ng their fields we could grow, leaving. When Gilda raised the money through live aid. And then, of course, other relief organizations just piled on like Red Cross UNICEF given hundreds, it wanted to be hundreds of millions of dollars. Um He channel that straight to Manchester with Ethiopian dictator And He was told. We discovered in our reporting, he was told what was happening with just the dictator..
"herb ritts" Discussed on Pop Culture Affidavit
"Very distinct visual style. The way david fincher does so you can almost tell when something like that happens in the new think about like jonathan dayton and valerie perez. Who did the tonight tonight. Video for smashing pumpkins. they've done a couple of movies. I think they might have done Little miss sunshine might have been. And then you've got Francis lawrence who's done a bunch of videos and did the hunger i hunger games moving. So yeah not probably in the streak of david fincher but you can definitely see some of the times where a a music video director their visual style translates into the way they shoot movies but like you know if you ever saw movie by hype williams. There would be fish island and and the one of the first people to make. That transition was ruffalo k. Who directed Highlander is not the seven and the social network but russellville k- he directed a lot of the classic dress Always look like many wild boys stuff congress. The woman said yes so so he needed tradition kind of like a workman during director. And some of the people have but for the most part yet sensors kinda stands alone because after directing this and similar things he goes on to direct now his his one is featured hughes's his future. These alien three which is up was a movie that the studio basically messed with so much. He has disowned it. More or less because they basically the fox decided to massive. We all know that when a student messes with director real always turns out well but then go on to seven game he's been nominated for two oscars one for the social network. The other one for the curious case of benjamin button gone girl. He's directed episodes of Has cardia so he david future is. He's up there with like you know the name and hassard style in terms of in terms of like his movies while and even with his videos. I mean if you will get Respect yourself by madonna which he directed the video for that and you will get free to ninety. You can see parallels even though we all you know Respect yourself was based on movie. Look of a movie but That sorta he's he's definitely got. He's got some visual uh signatures so his just a few a few. That was air. Express yourself vogue. Jane's got a gun the color pallor g. he's got a gun and a color palette. This are very very that of cool. Blue humor retired. He did on these the innocence and Like five elabuga abdul videos straight up cold hearted forever your girl in the way that you love me. And i had no qualms started. So he he fifty five music videos over the course of his career remove including the the hit. We don't have to take our clothes off some charity wine. I'm have to imagine that. Stewart had imaginative cough. Sarah cheer y. This even wondering has ever done the movie. I think he has. But i don't see. I looked because when i think of the directors again who kind of have that micromanaged me i. Sometimes i can tell what videos directed. Sometimes i can't. I don't think it's singers as consistent. Let's see how things of you may have heard of. Doesn't iansa videos read parts of lemonade. Yeah people were eliminated. I'm some He directed the movie adaptation of. Never let me go. Which i have to say and the robin williams movie one hour photo albums and i think there's the to that so fincher i just wanted to pitch Again it's like. He's in the pantheon of well-known via directors especially from the nineties action. Mark romantic and mick g later. Eight and her roots. Who was a photographer to begin with. Herb ritts directed chris. Isaac gun vegetarian. Video permanente so So this is the age of big video will never do without me of yeah. Yeah so the the big music video that is not done by michael jackson. You know this is michael jackson. Too huge music videos Girl here in the in the eighties directed by to hollywood directors. because john landis Did are of course easy to the but this is the opposite. This is when people were as soon after fincher is like career was huge. They started putting Credits on videos has been so the image images deconstructionist's three things in faith. Which are the motorcycle jacket that he wore the guitar that he was a plumbing. Yeah and the box. Yes the other thing about this. Video is kinda snuck up on you. It wasn't like you weren't waiting for the way like we found out that was directed by martin. Scorsese there's a tv debut it and also other stuff like freedom they you know they just kind of debuted on mtv. It wasn't like you know. Oats the new madonna video or anything like that. It was just kind of appeared. I was gonna ask you to you. I saw this on tv. Right i'm going to his. I saw this on Not having cable. There were times when i could go to friends houses and watch tv but also at the time Frightening of us. Who still a still a running thing and There was also funny enough for a very brief moment in the early nineteen nineties before i think just moved. Mba inside stuff on rashad into that sought nbc's to having saturday morning videos. Show okay and so. That's why i saw video. Well as you know. I was a latchkey kid. Who spent a lot of time alone while my parents were committed from say so i come home from school thrown in. Td do homework. Do whatever and so. I haven't tv on from the time. I got home until my parents got home. And you know pro is not like i'm like i can remember the day in time i saw. I just probably had it on. And then they probably played it in. There was so all right. So we are queuing up the video and it gets your attention because it starts with a tea kettle going off.
"herb ritts" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"Everybody. Thanks for hanging out with us. I don't know if I can read Kyle's book to tell you the truth. I don't need to be anything. Zombies magical, You know, like that kind of stuff I can deal with. I can't deal with something that could actually happen that I've been worried about in the back of my mind. Ever since I read The New York Times story about the grid, like eight years ago. Okay, good to know, But I'm going to read the book and I can't wait. Yeah, No, but it's just like You know, I'm glad he fictional like because I always think of we don't You know, Some of these people are good spy and crime writers. You always think I wonder if they're given any of the bad guys the horse, But I always think, Yeah, he already told us. These things have been predicted out years and years and years of bad guys already have the they do, Laurie and he grew up in the intelligence is there was an FBI agent, if you remember. No Yeah. He has an interesting story. Actually, I'm inside to read that book. I mean, all the reviews. I paged on her pager. Okay, Page Turner to which is the chiffon trenches with neither of us had read. Yeah. Ready. Dio. I read that I read. I got Andre Leon Talley is book. I got it from Chapter two books and I read it. Like maybe a month, And I mean I tweeted Andre Leon Talley. I was so moved by his book, Julia. I honestly was moved. I gave it Tio Neil the knitter. The flight attendant got the book and so because he He's this is not his first. He has another book that he wrote. You know, Andre Leon Talley is like 75 years old, and this is more specific fashion stories about Diane, Diana Vreeland, Andy Warhol, and just you know things that he be Karl Lagerfeld people that he had a winter people that Everything about him as it had to do with fashion. And who he Waas, which his grandmother is the woman who loved him. His mother was It was one of these women who probably shouldn't have had kids and she admitted to that, and they had a hard thing, but he loved fashion. How we went to school. I just gobbled that book up like in like a Sunday. It was everything I love gossip fashion, hitting you in the heart strings as faras like the love of a grandmother. I don't know. I think that's a very relatable. Thing for a lot of people, you know, like we have a one or two Grandma's or if you're lucky you get 1 G at least who just loves you, John. No wrong. I was the namesake. Yes, It's very it's. It's a very touching thing. And then also, of course, and I think that might be. Maybe one of the reasons why you want to write this book is that I think he had to take another look back at this time. When we're friendly, acknowledging that black lives matter to really look back now, from his vantage point of what it was like to be the only black on ly black person is a person that was in any kind of power. But yet he was in power at an arm's length, you know, and, of course, in his younger years, you know when He was Deanna Vreeland basically just loved him, and she taught him shall Iwas from she was a predator of Ah, Was she? Harper's Bazaar? Which one Vogue. I thing. Yeah, she was. She was vote shows that the rest but anyway, so you know, he really had He wanted to look at that about what it was like. But then he also had to acknowledge. You know, he went Teo, the I don't know if it's Parsons School of design, but he had, like, basically got he got his degree and, you know, fashion design and costuming. He was super smart. He just gobbled it all up, and then Deanna so looking back at through his older, self and kind of being in awe of the young. Man that he was and what he learned. Endorse. He kicked down that he's even realized he was kicking down there. So it just really if you like, you know all that kind of stuff. It was really delightful. Sounds lovely. And he was on watch What happens live so happy Ashley Derby who I thought was delightful from the Potomac. You were the houseboy from the Potomac, which I've never watched. But I thought our deal was darling. Very much So. So we just have a few little snacks from Andre Leon. Okay? Here's our first one where he's talking about meeting Elizabeth Taylor. Did you ever meet Elizabeth Taylor? Oh, yeah. Many times, one time at else of Reddy's house in the middle of the heat of the summer. She came for a Saturday night around 11 30, which was dating that senator that Senator Mr Warner What Want to walk in with a beautiful black caftan, and it was hot, so she went straight to the balcony. And I wanna know about me and she said down with one of the guests, and she came by going with a Jack Daniel's with a bottle of Jack Daniel's whiskey in her hand, and the second time I met her was when I did a photo shoot with her for Vogue. But Herb Ritts too late Herb Ritts in Los Angeles. It was meant to start at 11 in the morning. Miss Taylor arrived at 4 15 in the afternoon. Details constantly had these calls from her house. Miss Taylor has just gotten out of the hands, thinks she's about to leave the house immediately. 12 o'clock. Wanna club? Two o'clock We're sitting down.
"herb ritts" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"Everybody. Thanks for hanging out with us. I don't know if I can read Kyle's booked to bury the truth. I don't need to be anything. Zombies magical, You know, like that kind of stuff I can deal with. I can't deal with something that could actually happen that I've been worried about in the back of my mind ever since I read The New York Times story about the grid like eight years ago. Okay, good to know. But I'm going to read the book and I can't wait. Yeah, No, but it's just like You know, I'm glad he fictional like because I always think of we don't You know, Some of these people are good spy and crime writers. You always think I wonder if they're given any of the bad guys the horse, But I always think, Yeah, he already told us these things have been predicted out years and years and years of bad guys already have the they do lawyer and he grew up in the intelligence is there was an FBI agent, if you remember He has an interesting story. Actually, I'm excited to read that book. I mean, all the reviews on page one or page Turner. Okay, Page Turner to which is the chiffon trenches with neither of us had read. Yeah. Ready. Dio. I read I read. I got Andre Leon Talley is book. I got it from Chapter two books and I read it. Like maybe a month, And I mean I tweeted Andre Leon Talley. I was so moved by his book, Julia. I honestly was moved. I gave it Tio Neil the knitter. The flight attendant got the book and so because he he's This is not his first. He has another book that he wrote. You know, Andre Leon Talley is like 75 years old. And this is more specific fashion stories about Diane Diana Vreeland and, yes, Andy Warhol and just you know things that he p. Karl Lagerfeld, people that you and a winter people that Everything about him as it had to do with fashion and who he was which his grandmother is the woman who loved him. His mother was Was one of these women who probably shouldn't have had kids and she admitted to that, and they had a hard thing, but he loved fashion. How we went to school. I just gobbled that book up like in like a Sunday. It was everything I love gossip fashion, hitting you in the heart strings as faras like the love. Of a grandmother. I don't know. I think that's a very relatable thing for a lot of people, you know, like we have a one or two Grandma's or if you're lucky you get 1 G at least who just loves your do No wrong. I was the namesake. Yes, It's very it's. It's a very touching thing. And then also, of course. And I think that might be. Maybe one of the reasons why you want to write this book is that I think he had to take another look back at this time. When we're friendly, acknowledging that black lives matter to really look back now, from his vantage point of what it was like to be the only black only black person in person that was in any kind of power, But yet he was in power at an arm's length, you know, and, of course, in his younger years, you know when He was Deanna Vreeland basically just loved him, and she taught him Charlie was from she was a predator of Ah, Was she Harper's Bazaar? Which one Vogue. I thing? Yeah, she was. She was vote shows in the room. He but anyway, so you know, he really had He wanted to look at that about what it was like. But then he also had to acknowledge. You know, he went Teo, the I don't know if his Parsons School of design, but he had, like, basically got he got his degree and, you know, fashion design and costuming. He was super smart. He just gobbled it all up, and then Deanna so looking back at through his older, self and kind of being in awe of the young. Man that he was and what he learned. Endorse. He kicked down that he's even realized he was kicking down your so it it just really if you like, you know all that kind of stuff. It was really delightful. Sounds lovely. And he was on watch What happens live so heavy Ashley Derby who I thought was delightful from the Potomac. You were the houseboy from the Potomac, which I've never watched. But I thought our deal was darling. Very much So. So we just have a few little snacks from Andre Leon. Okay? Here's our first one where he's talking about meeting Elizabeth Taylor. Did you ever meet Elizabeth Taylor? Oh, yeah. Many times, one time at else of Reddy's house in the middle of the healer's summer. She came for a Saturday night around 11 30, which was dating that senator that Senator Mr Warner What Want to walk in with a beautiful black caftan, and it was hot, so she went straight to the balcony and I was on the balcony. And she said down with one of the guests, and she came by the way with her Jack Daniels and a bottle of Jack Daniel's whiskey in her hand. And the second time I met her was when I did a photo shoot with her for vote with her bread's too late Herb Ritts in Los Angeles. She was meant to start at 11 in the morning. In this Taylor arrived at 4 15 in the afternoon. Details constantly had these calls from her house. Miss Taylor has just gotten out of the hands, thinks she's about to leave the house immediately..
"herb ritts" Discussed on Chicks in the Office
"Get the full picture and regardless of if it's ten twenty, thirty, forty years have gone by hearing these stories I think just are important and important to talk about, and I'm sure you also have amazing memories from Zach Stop Modeling Quarters. Like do you have a favorite cycle? was there what are some the fondest moments that stick out to you because like risk at those those early cycles it was we we watched nonstop young. I favored cycle. It's so hard because. There's so many magical moments even in later cycles when things weren't that great behind the scenes, I loved personally as an abroad location. One of my favorite abroad locations was being in Marrakech Morocco for shooting for three weeks. I. Kind of felt this real spiritual connection I did not expect to feel like never traveled there before But yeah in the early cycles were special. You know literally even the creative, it was a phone call between me entirely on the phone I'd say you know she always wanted to route it and things she had done and that was her honest intention out of the gate. So the girls could experience the industry. and. I would just say what if we did shoot like this a lot of people talk about and even psycho three. Shoot I did with the it was the Verragio jewelry with the Tarantulas and the growing alison there. But. That was really inspired by this. Old. Old. It's like an iconic jewelry ad I think the script `scuse shot at like Iman was the supermodel there like spiders and animals. I just wanted to kind of always kind of would give a nod to the greats out there and I've had the opportunity work with major photographers like any Liebowitz Richard Avedon. Herb Ritts I got to work with these created visionaries and I wanted to always. Be inspired by their work on the show. So I would say those early cycles cycle three favorite for so many people. I definitely love that cycle. It was the first cycle we had covergirl and I, and I had pitched them with our CO executive producer. They were a client of mine were proctor and gamble was, and that's how they became part of the show and it was just fun those early cycles building. It was fun from behind the scenes because we thought we were only GonNa do maybe two or three cycles that was right. Yeah. Yeah and so much more right and I see you Jay's chat on Instagram and you've been talking to models who have been on the show what was your relationship like with these contestants on the show during the time that you were filming and verse? Now. Yeah. So A lot of people we talk about on the James Chats. Because I'm person who spent the most time with the girls. So I was obviously administering challenges or Or teaches, but the photo shoots. Are, the are the longest segments of the show. You only see about eight to ten minutes of it in each episode but I, we shoot for fifteen hours. So I got to really know the girls and we'd hang out at lunch and dinner what some of it was on camera. A lot of it isn't even though the cameras were shooting, you don't see it in the final edit. So I got to learn how the girls tick and my job was always to make sure they had everything. They could to put their best foot forward so. You know some girls need a little push, shove other girls, e the handhold, and I to learn who they were. So a lot of the girls too. You know I go back to even cycle one because you can see it on camera that could even cut around it. You know they were trying to make it look like Robin was challenging me in the bathroom when we were shooting in Buddha Khan in Paris and that new jewelry shoot it was just her Shannon Alison Adrian left. Yes I do remember them all ever again. I was GONNA. Say I can't even remember like the people who some of the names of people I work with. Incredible, they all be competitive family, but there's this scene specifically were. Robin was talking about you know because she was very religious a but when the cameras weren't rolling, she was always teasing and joking with me and kind of like the spun sexual way it was kind of funny and we got along really well. So on camera she saying to me last week it was Lebron's Pani this weakest. Thong what's it going to be next week? 'cause I'm saying she could cover up with ribbons right and the thing is she goes my grandma always told me if you don't stand for something offer every nigga laughing and they tried to make it look like I'm serious but. Got Along well with the girls I didn't really have any. Kind of a negative interactions I'm sure of course there moments where were like pushing and I'm trying to get the girls to work, but we didn't not get along. So there are a lot of the models over the years I've remained in touch with a couple of my friends with and So doing this, I wanted the girls to have an opportunity to just speak about their experiences also behind the scenes because the fans WanNa know like their o. the and then also I'm kind of in those chats I only have a couple of left but we're we're also talking about the. Clearing up the rumors that people know. Yeah. They're the rumors are always always crazy and obviously you know we had asked you about Tara but are there the other panelists judges like we're at those people you've kept relationships with or not at all Oh of course? Yeah you know like I I've always loved Paulina PORCO versus before she came on the show and I knew Andre before the show you all of that so is great kind of working with them and then obviously Miss J and Nigel. We've always we're always like each other at events or Nigel's doing one of his you know kind of He does a lot of philanthropic work I go in support him..
"herb ritts" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"Song who you might of heard of his name is Brian Wilson. Yeah. And he had a little indie band called the beach boys. Now. This is why you can't tell Jan and dean songs from Beach Boys. Song. Well, yeah right I was going to say two things first of all. What were the other three writers doing because of what I know Brian Wilson I don't think he needs three other guys. To help him write a song. That's A. Be This feels a lot like I think there was something in like maybe like the late nineties and early two thousands when there was a computer company that was going out of business stick with me here there was a computer. Business and Microsoft was afraid that they would they. They would. Behave with antitrust laws because there were many more competition. So Microsoft like. Gave that company money just to keep them going based off them that's what it feels like. It's happening here where Brian Wilson's like. Well, they can't be only just the beach boys like because then we'll get hit with an antitrust lawsuit by the government. Because we be, the only. SCHERF museum the only band in that genre. So he's like propping up Jannine Dean, he's like writing. A. This this I I was not aware that Brian Wilson I don't know wh I'm sure we'll talk about it and other songs or was involved in other. Sorry for Jan and dean. But this very much. Makes me feel good about the fact that I could never tell the difference between beach boys and Jan and dean songs. Apparently, there is almost no difference they were written by the same guy. So anyway. Yeah. So the point is I feel enter. Yeah. What's where's Dean? He's driving around his car. He's he's Easter busy drag racing yet on the radio and write a song for the people he had no say in it. So this was one of Jan and Dean's biggest hits they were known as pioneers of the California surf sound of the early sixties. A sound that's most associated with. Boy, who the voice The ruttles. Men. But the beach boys were not just their contemporaries. They were friends, they were collaborators. They, worked together a lot surf. Buddies I'm assuming. None of how to serve none of the choice not mazing. Unbelievable. True Brian Wilson certainly did not Brian was terrified of the ocean. Definitely did not know how to surf. There's at least one beach boy that knows how to surf I'm I'm confident in that. All right I feel like it would be like aluminum stuff if none of. Though I really. Made. A little about Shannon Dean. Williams Jan Berry was born on April third nineteen forty dean. Ormsby torrence was born on March tenth nineteen forty one Jan. and dean, met at University High School in Los. Angeles where they were both on the football team dean graduated Nineteen fifty-eight Jan Graduated Nineteen fifty-nine I only one per only one beach boy could surf. Thank you apparently which one was it was it Mike what's his face? Now? Mike Love apparently Dennis. Dennis Wilson Dennis clearly knew how to. I could pick them out and say that that beach boy knows how neither Brian Nor Carl Wilson or Mike Love New Surf. Okay Thank you Janice. Dean met at university. High. School in Los Angeles, where they were both on the football team Dean graduated in Nineteen. Fifty eight and Jan graduated in nineteen fifty nine. So everyone who has ever famous. When to University High School? Nancy Sinatra went there. She graduated in nineteen fifty eight, a netflix cello graduated in nineteen sixty. So they were there at the same time. Yeah. Jeff Bridges Danny Elfin James Brolin Kharlamov off Lorna left Roddy McDowell Randy Newman Marilyn Monroe Ryan O'Neal herb. Ritts. Frank Sinatra Junior Taylor tone Lok and Judy Garland. Are All alumni and all in the same crate. Say graduating here. Yeah. It was a crazy graduation. People, don't know this tone locate judy. Garland dated briefly. That's right A. Little known fact was known she was known to do. He had a bit partner star is born. It was great. So other alumni of the school included Kathy Kohner. Graduated in nineteen, fifty eight she was the inspiration for the book film and Movie Gidget and Sandra. Dee Graduated Nineteen, Fifty Eight, she starred in the film version of Gidget. The California Surfing. Is. Apparently. Very Real. Yeah and front, and basically from that high school I mean Holy Moly. That's crazy. So they had they had a pedigree and surf music and their entire like I mean between Netflix cello being in sixty Nancy Sinatra and then gidgets Galore there. There's like I mean they they set that group set that tone for that entire little. Tired little subset. Of the surf movies that Elizabeth Taylor Mate. Sure. Yes. Of course pretty sure who's afraid of Virginia Woolf is about surfing it is Yep Yep Yep Virginia Wolfe is a particularly bad wave. I have a comment if I may. Sure. Sure. Based on a real person. Yes. What does that now? I don't know a lot about kitchen someone throw that out there. But I was under the impression gives you like a perky girl hanging out at the beach. Why does that based on an actual? Personally what is the? What is the story there that they had a base it on the life rights of some other person did you like hanging out at the beach and surfing and then also cured polio like what is their life story? No I think it was just like schools a drag. Let's go surfing and that's it but. What particular girl? Understand I'd I believe gidget nugget. The real. Good Kathy. Kohner was her nickname vase wrote the book. Okay. Got It. All right. Okay. That was adapted into a movie starring Sandra, dee which was adapted into a television series starring Sally Field Right. Yes. American Sweetheart Sally Field but in in the TV version. GIDGET becomes a nun and she wanted lie. That's true. That's right. That's right. You're mixing up two different things and then she has a son who goes off and his wife is like a box of chocolates because you're GONNA get. Your very wrong and then gidget winds to Oscars. No. Judge Burt Reynolds. Anyway. So yeah. So the California Surfing. It was a real thing. You know they would. Just you know go when Surf those. Crazy way. I. Don't know sixty. Or Sixty. Serfs lying anyway. So as I said, Janati met while they were on the football team. During football practice. Several this sounds like a musical, but it's not it's real life. Several of the team members would harmonize in the locker room show they were Probably among the most feared football teams and They were they were the jets and the.
"herb ritts" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Hearing McNamara eight six six nine the right I okay it's important bring this up well it is for me well I think it is herb Ritts it it is for the actually for the for the country it's not just about me I hit it is it is about the country are it was three years ago today that you when I came in the show room and looked at each other and said where did this come from the trunk lid with the Russians right to hack the election it's been three years of this the the you know we we saw what happened with the mother report we saw the biggest conspiracy theory that was ever created and promoted by the media and Eric Wombles column goes through that in in in on a number of different columns that he wrote last month and and you know and and target in Spain you know this is this what the media did with the with the dossier that's from the Washington post so it's look it's everything that we set it comes down to what now after three years we weren't the ones be asking you no we won't be asking you we were telling the truth and we were trying you know we were we were trying to and and we're still trying to connect all the dots and yeah right and and we're getting closer to connect in all of the dots but what we have seen from the very very beginning of this as had started falling apart was that what the Democrats accuse the president of doing is what they were actually doing by their own standards what they were doing some of the important things that came out during our vacation and a Catherine Herridge now with CBS formally a fox in when I did ask a question she put out so many tweets along CBS allow her to continue to do this because eventually this has to become a big story on CBS does it not well I mean either they they either they're putting her there just to do it a tweet out stuff they hired her for Twitter or they're actually going to do something with this hi all Catherine Herridge did was read the report and highlight certain sections and put those sections on Twitter and say here's what this says and a couple of them this from two days ago I'm from the horror which report he witnesses refused he he witnesses on the dossier refused interviews FBI leadership call me in Baker chose not to request that their security Claire clearances be reinstated which meant the inspector general was unable to develop their testimony with classified documents and then she puts Durham has broader powers IG report hard to quote assess how much FBI leadership knew about bad information and omitted facts in the FISA application call me his decision not to reinstate his security clearance meant investigators were unable to reflect refresh his recollection important because that's one of things that you first brought up Eric yeah you brought that up and said well wait a minute they refuse a security clearance that means they couldn't answer any questions pertinent to the FISA warrants right so and they knew that right so so when he was saying I'm cleared I'm clear by the way did you see some of his yes yeah he's I swear you he's doing what that I can't remember what that with the mobsters name was in the seventies and eighties number ten did he was mentally imbalanced right right swear to you it's almost as of call me is trying to set up that look he's not mentally competent to stand trial because the the tweets he is putting out is just absolutely bizarre yeah they are it's really weird and and it's the only way he could because when he when he was on with Chris Wallace but we noticed that well I you know I guess I don't see it the same way what do you mean you don't see it the same way it's right there in front of your face but this is going back to this part of the report we're Baker and call me both refuse to accept their clearance being restated at for the sake of the interviews well they knew why because then it would be that would prohibit Horowitz from even approaching certain subjects in fact my question is how many of the items percentage wise were left off the table because of that alone how much of it I'd have to believe it would be most of it how much was horror which essentially prohibited from asking in terms of what he wanted to ask what he would be prepared to ask if they had accepted their clearance to be reinstated for those interviews one of the things that we have said all along is that either steel was line but now we know he had some sources right right yeah so yeah it's a and or that it was Russia disinformation propaganda in order to disrupt the election that the in our intelligence agencies and the F. B. I. bought and we asked the question will wait a minute did they ever consider there to become one these are your your talk about Peter Strauss was that that was that the head of counterintelligence writing come come on they had to they somebody had to sit there did they yes they did mmhm at B. I considered whether steel dossier was part of a twenty sixteen Russian disinformation campaign but ultimately dismissed though the FBI knew the Russians quote wanted to sow chaos the fact crossfire hurricane team was unaware of the steel connection to the Russian oligarch and she's got the page number the reference and the actual highlighting of the I. G. report in there and it goes through like I said it goes to what a don't point after point after point I'm just going through here scrolling diss ending up someone to bring up here in in January twenty seventeen call me toll present elect trump the FBI didn't know was steals allegations were true and the FBI not investigating them note inspector general horse reports in mid November of twenty sixteen FBI officials travel abroad to assess the credibility of steel so I guess said going point by point by point by point by point and then finally we ask call me this is a quote from the inspector general's report we as call me whether he recalled having any conversations with then CIA director John Brennan or others about how the steel reporting should be presented to the president call me said quote may be more than one about how the steel report should be integrated into the I see a so you know that they were both they were both communicating with each other which is extremely important because that's the point that you you know that you you get to well what conspiracy right and then the the one that I think was really important in this came from Cyr a Carter animal Rogers former director of the NSA is cooperating with U. S. attorney John Durham in the widening inquiry into the origins and conduct of the trump Russia investigation and as I pointed out on Twitter Rogers is the one who went to the FISA court in October of sixteen to tell them that the Obama administration had not been following the FISA rules obviously agreed to the FISA court rebuke them in April of seventeen you and I talked about that we have always wondered and ask the question can you connect the dots was this just something they decided to do to this president or is this something that had been going on and could all be related at all to the April seventeenth rebuke of the FISA court of the FISA court of the Obama administration going all the way back to twenty eleven yeah armed because if this was standard practice if you look at twenty eleven of course that would be the the year leading into the reelection year yeah barackobama was this standard practice and whose.
"herb ritts" Discussed on Slate's Culture Gabfest
"When Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis Co wrote love will never never do without you. They pictured it as a duet alot male voice for the early verses and a female Janet singing the high parts slater in the song in the studio however they discovered Janet could see both parts dropping her voice to its lowest possible range on the first verse in Fact Janet. Did all the vocals on the track multi tracking both leads and backups by herself on the album. Love will never do was a six six minute long call and Response Raven like New Jack Swing Frost with Gospel it also was not the kind of song that would work with one one of Janet's typically busy music videos performed by a troupe of dancers so am invited photographer herb Ritts to shoot a video wpro with only Janet and a handful of male models in a wide open desert like space Jackson was dressed in nothing fancier than a black tank tank top and a tattered pair of jeans the black and white clip which featured Cameos by actors Antonio Junior and Johnstone whom sue it was sensual and arrest it would take home a best female video statue at the nineteen ninety-one and TV video music awards.
"herb ritts" Discussed on Hit Parade | Music History and Music Trivia
"When Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis Co wrote love will never do without you. They pictured it as a duet alot male voice for the early verses and a female Janet singing the high parts later in the song in the studio however however they discovered Janet could sing both parts dropping her voice to its lowest possible range on the first verse breath in fact Janet did all the vocals on the truck. Multi Altea tracking both leads and backups by herself on the album. Love will never do was a six minute long call and Response Raven Raven like New Jack Swing crossed with Gospel it also was not the kind of song that would work with one of Janet's typically busy music videos performed by a troupe of dancers so am invited photographer herb Ritts to shoot video with only Janet and a handful of male models in a wide open desert-like space Jackson was dressed in nothing fancier than a black tank top and a tattered pair of jeans in the black and white clip which featured Cameos by actors Antonio Sabado junior and John Heyman whom sue was sensual and arresting it would take home a best female video statue at the Nineteen ninety-one MTV video music awards.
"herb ritts" Discussed on Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ
"Do you have to refresh my memory of one man who was like the way you make me feel the next minute. He's like a gang banger latest great one the way you make me feel. I think the last really what was the one with magic kennedy remembered a time there was earth song which it really was gonna shut it. Just talk about videos suit happy but you've been a video. The video was amazing. Easy wasn't video not amazing oils and stuff and earth. That's heal the world the movie willy free willie amazing video. Okay remember thriller billie jean and number one. She basically has a career because she knows how to do. Musically oh yeah they her vision the artists that she worked with she was working with it's like herb ritts who was a photographer photographer at one point. It's like i like your i come here and then she puts together this video cherish with merman going what's going on here. The the video that the song that christians played i was i was the most expensive video at that point which was released <hes>. I just remember her in the boat in borderline komo notice <hes> you talk about like a virgin. Was that the boat yeah alright father or <hes> poppet dome remember. That was a real deal because you know yeah. I was real especially at that time. That's what i'm saying was in of course casinos as a priest. They didn't like that travis. When you had to black priests take your word for it. I remember the pepsi and stuff. You took pepsi away from black priests. Are there no black priests jesus. I i think actually jesus i think he was. It was a black jesus that she had done. That's really going to create more issue's kevin. I want that number when you said it. I was like she should be up. There probably <hes> number <unk> one's good list does he finally you did some right l. Top.
"herb ritts" Discussed on The Smoking Tire
"This is just how much money there was at the time just like and so we did one for seven up that was so stupid and so- lane. But they spent like three million dollars on this commercial, and then they saw it and they're like, yeah, we're not gonna hear that, but that's actually better than just like using the extra money to buy back their own shares. You know what I mean and give themselves bonuses like Evatt. Particular, instance and others like it. Yeah. The money did actually trickle down which was a rare thing. But, you know, I'm not pro supply side by, like that extra surplus went somewhere didn't just like, well maybe it also went to vote as I don't know. Well, the new version that is like the like the Doritos commercial contests of your for the super supermarket. Get people to make a bunch of specs shit. Anybody any, fright exposure? Yeah. If we pick you, you get fifty grand. Ooh. And then you're going to pay the government half of true. Yeah. It's, it's a great idea. Just talk about a Doritos. I thought we just talked about somebody who had won the Doritos thing and did manage to parlay that into actual work. I have no doubt. If you win that you can get an agent director right commercials and stuff like that. Exposure thing does work. But if you're one of the ninety percent of people who didn't win you spent money X on make year thing. Yeah. Did you have any other really fun? Product launches that you've got to work on and you're on your pants with shoes? There was just, I think a lot of the Nike stuff was super cool. There was one time when, when I first got to this agency called good be Silverstein and partners, which is one of the best agencies in the world and they do amazingly creative work even now, but I started working on Norwegian cruise line and that was at the time, like I got there, right after of course, they did this beautiful campaign in her Brits shot, all of the photography, and, you know, he's the one that did all those supermodel shots like the original supermodels in the ninety s and so it was just like, oh, the super glamorous thing. And then they're like, well, we want you to go on one of the cruises, and like, do focus groups and stuff. And I was like, okay, and that sounds fun. And oh man. Like, it's so not a herb Ritts photo. Super Janke, and like, really horrible terrible. And at one point, there were a bunch of other women who are just on the account or helping helping with stuff. And you know, we weren't Cancun, and there was one of those inflatable banana boats. And the guy who was towing this thing was a fucking maniac, and we were all like screaming at him to, to slow down. And I think he thought he that it was funny. Laughing word with bananas. Big you, definitely a safe where he turned really found like too hard and a my my head like banged into this other ladies had thank God. I was wearing a life vest. 'cause I blacked out I would be at the bottom of the sea of Cortez right now. It was, so there was a lot of really crazy stuff too. So then you go to the doctor don't ever go to ship..
"herb ritts" Discussed on Keep It!
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"herb ritts" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM
"Thirty seconds of meeting. Her in a dank Portland club used tussling on the beer soaked floor with her wrestling playfully or some comment Courtney made while Kurt was loading. His gear him before nirvana gig something about how he looked like Dave Perner from soul asylum to Kurt them's was fighting words, so things got physical turn Kurt on left. An impression. One. The current was eager to explore the next time. Their paths crossed on the road in the UK Courtney on the road with whole Kurt with and then against stateside, Chicago where they eventually get around to giving in that building sexual tension. They both feel hard and fast. It was October of nineteen ninety one right in the midst of Nirvana's ascent via the release of never mind. The two were married in February nineteen Ninety-two when Walla rock and roll royalty. In the early nineteen nineties, you couldn't get more mainstream than Vanity Fair magazine. Comprised of alias contributors like Dominic Dunster making photographers like herb Ritts in any liebowitz and hound by genius editors Tina Brown and Graydon Carter the high gloss MAG both projected and reflected American culture, but what set it apart from other mainstream outlets. In addition to the quality of its content was its willingness to brazenly Wade into the waters of high society and celebrity scandal in nineteen Ninety-two. Vanity Fair was covered monthly by the images of mega celebrities like Kevin Costner, Jack Nicholson and Princess Diana boasting articles such as Norman Mailer on Oliver Stone's JFK friend liebowitz on money on Ed Sullivan. Not to mention the steady stream of aristocratic scandal covered by Dominic Dunn. The cover of the September issue featured Gina Davis riding high on the sales of her ninety two star turn alongside Tom Hanks, Madonna and a league of their own the cover also promised perspective readers insight into Gorby. Dow Camille Paglia Courtney love. The article on the recently wed, grunt Queen to a reluctant voice of a generation husband was to court anyway. Supposed to be like all the other articles, a blow up celebrating her outrageous sense of now her arrival on the scene in the genetics takeover of tired mainstream culture with Courtney love leading the charge, of course. Because when you get right down to it who's more deserving. Corny was fearless unafraid to say or do anything and her band hall was incredible. We'll be right back.
"herb ritts" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"WNYC ninety three point nine FM and AM eight twenty NPR news and the New York conversation. Brian Lehrer on WNYC with legendary magazine editor Tina Brown her book out in paperback, the Vanity Fair diaries, power wealth, celebrity and dreams my years at the magazine that defined the decade an-and Chelsea WNYC with Tina Brown Hyeon. I can you can you hear me just fine. Great fantastic. Thank you so much for everything you do Tina. I just want to say the first Vanity Fair. I ever saw was the one with Michelle Pfeiffer undercover he was talking about. She was talking about tequila sunrise. I was too young to get a subscription. But when I came of age that was the first magazine, I I started to subscribe, I have the first ten years of every Hollywood issue, which I adored and the Demi Moore cover was great. But my favorite will always be Debra winger when she was going out and doing publicity for the sheltering sky. The photographs were great. And that was one of the best interviews ever. She was real. She was she was fabulous. And all of the writers great stories journalism, everything it was absolutely perfect. And you made my young years so happy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Gosh. Well, let's so fantastic. You're in so much detail as you were saying that these covers were flashing before my eyes that Michelle Pfeiffer cover was actually one of my very very favorite to it was by herb Ritts, and she was wearing that goal dress. And there was some set on her and that gold dress was Calvin Klein mini dress that became the one of the best selling items of his collection that year it just flew out of the stores. Thanks to Michelle Pfeiffer glorious bought wearing it then. Thank you Timothy in Washington heights and WNYC. Hi, timothy. Hi, brian. Thanks for taking my call. Peter brown. I think it could be argued that your time at venues during the eighties enabled that the me generation culture of ABC you help, cultivate, that do you bear any responsibility. Would you be responsible Saturday? They're responsible for that devolved into this current culture. Deplorable narcissism that's plaguing our country. So you'll blaming me for the birth of celebrity culture. Well, I you know, frankly, I think about an editor does is reflecting predict. They know the guys that times that was what was happening. We had a we had a celebrity in the White House a movie movie star in the White House. If you also have to make value judgments about how you want to participate in the culture at any given time. Right. Absolutely. I'm what Vanity Fair did an always had stem was that great mix of high low deep and a glamorous, you know, we would on the one hand we would do the glitz on the rise of that glance. On the other hand, we would do an amazing ten thousand what essay by William star in about depression, his depression, his attempts to combat it that ended up being most influential piece really on that topic that it'd done that far and ended up being a book that he turned into something which for which he used all headline darkness visible. So we always did mix. And and and in some ways, you know, the seduction points magazine. What makes you buy it? You know, those those movie stars the glamour, the beauty or whatever. And you'll buy it for that. But then you'll end up reading the Williams darn piece that was always the kind of. The two step that Vanity Fair did. So I feel we did a good job of reflecting predicting. Also, you know, the cover the culture and its highs and lows one related question about your time at the New Yorker, which was controversial critics at the time thought, you were dumbing down and intellectual magazine. But I believe also hired people like Malcolm glad well, David ram neck. Of course, went on to be editor Jeffrey Toobin, Jane Mayer, all doing great work to this day. How do you look back on the essential challenge at that? The charge that dumbed it down is hilarious. Because in fact, I raised the intellectual standards tremendously at the New Yorker magazine had become somewhat dormant and somewhat less intellectually exciting. And I brought on the right is that you mentioned and many many more, and they're all still there. And they're doing that great work Jeffrey Toobin who is a young. Assistant attorney I had and he, of course, became our legal. Correspondent now is a very very, well regarded the correspondent remnants who you mentioned Adam gopnik who was an art critic, and who I said to Paris, and he completely changed what he was writing about. I feel really very proud of how we turn the New Yorker back to being the golden magazine it had been. Do you think that people mistook shortening the lane of some articles, which I think you did with intellectual heft? I think the people who thought that were quite honestly ignorant as New Yorkers history. Because one of the things that I did when I took it over was to go back to the magazine of the thirties, which was Harold Rossi's magazine, founder of the New Yorker and the pieces were much shorter in those days. What I always believed is is that length should Annette's position. So actually, I did do for instance, a twenty five thousand word piece about Motors, and Al Salvador by the Gionta there. But at the same time, I would do much shorter pieces in the front about, you know, the the OJ Simpson trial. If if if that was what was happening that was a great legal interest to Jeffrey Toobin. So you know, it was all about that. That makes and I think the people who didn't understand that world from people who pretended to read the New Yorker and never really had no L and Allendale you're on WNYC with Tina Brown. Hi noel. Hi, how are you doing great? Thank you get. Tina, I admire. Are you so much? I love your work. I always have I read Vanity Fair I have ever and New Yorker, and you did turn the New Yorker into a more, vibrant magazine. Thank you. I love magazine. I think they're coming back. I think people are still reading them. I think it's a vibrant culture for the portrait of people in and writing. And I don't think they're dead yet. When I hope not. I mean, I I, you know, it's certainly possible that the trough one has seen a screen seemed to have one may well have a different pivot. I I am less obsessed now with the physical product of magazines more obsessed with making sure there are ways to get an ingest. There is such a what about what's the magazine content that is so good. And I personally love the tactile nature of magazines. But I also have to be honest with myself and say do I rushed to newsstands to get magazines. I don't like I used to do. But I do go my ipad and read everything, and I'm constantly reading on other in other formats, and as long as it's there, I don't really care as long as that content. Is that right? But I think part of the issue in the industry is not only screens versus physical tactile magazines as you said, but also that when the say magazines get most of the readers online. Line. And I think probably more readers than a lot of legacy publications have ever had before because of the, you know, ease of distribution online for some reason, there's not the advertising model to sustain it the problem. Huge problem is brutal. I'm very bitter about it on behalf of all the journalists, and photographers and editors who have been put out of work by this horrible. Catastrophic explosion at the business model by digital you know, feast as upon content free. What's how do you understand the business decision there? If there are all these new eyeballs seeing all this content. Well, unfortunately, because the eyeballs get measured in exactly the amount of time. They spend on that particular thing. It means that advertisers will just think they wanna be around pretty content for a start. I mean, you know, you'll never find that advertisers want to be around a big twenty-five thousand web piece about the modus that I mentioned in an album associate. They don't want to be there. And what an a magazine offers is a package where you can say. Okay, I'm advertising in the magazine. I want to be at the front of the book, I want to be next to the wine. Call more. I mean, you could you could make that one flips. Yeah. I mean, the problem now, of course, is that people know that it's the eyeballs are there for just a minute or whatever it's not worth the spend to put it there. And it's tragic because that has really the only the only officer is subscription, and unfortunately because editors and publishers in the early period when the web came out where waiting to supine about letting their stuff, be stolen. You know, what sort of conned by the Silicon Valley concept of oh, it's great exposure for you, great sort of, you know, your brand will get great exposure. And they happily kinda gave content away them you try to make people pay for it, very very difficult to kind of retro fit that that appetite for paying, and I must say when I hit pay I tend to move on you know. And that's the thing we have to get through. There was also a cultural idea around at the time not just a business model of giving away people things for free as a loss leader. And then they'll come to you. But I think also this cultural idea that information wants to be free on the internet. And there was a lot of resentment about any kind of pay wall. Then was it was a huge cultural that was perpetrated on the world com. Why because I think that brains and diligence and care has created a great work, it shouldn't just be given away free. You know, I mean someone has to honor right that labor, and what is really? Tragic now is that so many publications cannot afford to pay for that labor should make the quality good, and that means laying off and firing and you know in folding, and so the quality suffers and sodas democracy. So I mean, I feel quite strongly about that as you can tell and yet in our last thirty seconds, you end the book by stating perhaps a new golden age of journalism is approaching. How do you see it optimism? I'm really hoping. I mean, one great trend actually is the fact that the digital geniuses who you know, who redesigned our world beginning to turn now to the problem of what has been created by digital disruption. And so you have tremendously big minds like Jeff visas like Mark Benny off like the new owner of the LA times who's a biotech in a buying media. And I think it's good. I think it's great if getting into buying media because they have the funds to to support him. Tina Brown's book is the Vanity Fair diaries, pallor wealth, celebrity and dreams. My. Ears at the magazine that defined the decade. And if you wanna see Tina in person, she'll be in conversation with the writer Jay mcinerney, Tuesday, December fourth at the Kaufmann concert hall on the upper coupling concert is that.
"herb ritts" Discussed on The Empire Film Podcast
"With these being psychopathic characters on this sarily feeling the ramifications of what they're doing kind of gets under your skin i think for some people get into the skin i think others they might find too distant has a mannered and detached to kind of in keeping with the characters you feel was black comedic yet definitely yeah yes go really kind of strong undercurrent of talk through your also really jagged edges i think people might be surprised at some of the nastiness involve but i i think the the lee both amazingly joy she is like she's like a twenty th century scream queens doing amazing stuff in in horror and thriller the moment and she absolutely full is on here and obviously with most recently see ready play a woman and she's such like livable character in that as samantha and she's kind of really joyous in this yet you know going to i yeah i see her quite deadpan a lot of movies quite reserved she's fits really nicely with with herb ritts i think with with ready play one is the onus that whereas in this is the is the cold is clear but yeah if you if you like previous things that either of those two have done as well this is pretty much an anton yeltsin's final screen performance which is is recited i kind of haven't really clocked that will always well than it hit me afterwards that like thighs pretty much we're going to say hey which is massively saudis amazing talent he's no star billing here and but he kind of really brings a lot to that character so but yeah it's for me for rates and i think we get full styles four stars for breads and that's come down to a quiet place i absolutely adore this movie blew me away completely surprised me this the third movie as director of john crisci who of course is best known as jim from the office the american version of the office and if you said to me that jim from the office has directed an alltime horror classic i would've gone.