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350 - Wells Fargo

The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds

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350 - Wells Fargo

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They met in the back room of a bookstore in Syracuse, New York you discuss providing transportation of miners during the gold rush. Okay. In March eighteen fifty two they launched Wells Fargo and company's California express with three hundred thousand dollars, it costs three hundred thousand dollars to launch it. Yeah. That is a lot of money for back, then they didn't have Kickstarter. They did not have Kickstarter. Okay. California. Only had sixty post offices for three hundred thousand people the Ulta California newspaper, quote, the post office system, so far as California is concerned is a humbug and a Newson. Okay. Dave, you know, what I'm gonna need you to clean it up a little bit. I really language is important to me. It's a humbug, David. So. Oman could choose what a producer taking up and not great finally like ever. So so yes. So the filling a void, right. Sure. Wells Fargo, wait. Sorry, real quick. They're they're they're working pretty much just transferring at the start. Okay. So they're just a cheaper more trust away to send letters across the country. Okay. And they created a way to send gold also would stage coaches, right? Sure. Which led to stagecoach robberies, of course. Well, I mean, of course, Golden State. Yeah. Exactly the school driving by you. Pretty slow. You could trot along. I'd be like, yeah, I'm going to take. Thank you, by Wells Fargo, then start employing detectives to chase down the robbers. Okay. Wells Fargo also got into the lady shipping business. Dave come on. What what is that in eighteen ninety three an unmarried woman took a trip from Los Angeles to Chicago for the world's fair. Okay. Wells road ahead and told their man there. She was coming and to find her a place to stay. Okay. Let's Fargo introduced her to people, and she was personally checked up on by wells associates while she was there. Did she did? She goes she needed. She asked for any of this. She's single she can't just run around light. But why why why why would why with her why did this happen? Just because ladies single in his city. She must be checked upon. What do you mean checked upon maitre? She's being lady ish. I don't like it. Well, so whales this is one of the wells businesses, and they also got into the lady shipping business in Europe. And same thing, let's say they would ship. They would take someone somewhere in the check up on her. You gotta make sure Lay's doing. Okay. In what way just like, they would just like watch her guests or like, Hello, MRs Spencer. How are you man touched? You know, good. Okay. Good day. Stop coming over here. I'll be back tonight midnight. It's not something. I've asked for parents lives. Hey, Kat, then demand never mind during the Spanish American war, the US passed a war revenue act in eighteen ninety eight they required tax stamps on some business transactions. Okay. Wells past one cent tax onto its customers. But they also fought the war tax all the way to the supreme court. Okay. Who eventually ruled against Wells Fargo in nineteen oh one, but they'd save three years of taxes by tying up in court and made a profit because they passed on the one cent. Well, that's jigs. How they drew it up. So they just pushed it for three years. Then they got it to the supreme court. They've and now they do have to that. They did. But they saved three years, and they got they made a prophecies in nineteen o five wells spun off the banking business from its express service. Okay. So now, it's now it's a Bank, right? And let the good times roll. Yeah. This is great in nineteen thirty seven. He Wells Fargo movie played in theaters across the country. What I'm Detective, John wells. And I'm Andy Fargo the plot was about rocky. The plot is about rocky the guy's name. Okay. Special investigator for Wells Fargo who goes under covers an outlawed find out who was Robin stage coaches. Wow. So this is like in right? Oh, yeah. For sure this doesn't feel. I mean, this is the beginning of Brandon corporation. Yeah. From a nineteen fifty seven how did he do at the box office? I don't know. I didn't check. My sure is it just made a killing who wanna go. See the Wells Fargo. No movie from nineteen fifty seven and nineteen sixty two tales of Wells Fargo, the TV series ran this is like Mackin me. Well, what is the Wells Fargo TV show agent? Jim Harris retires owns a ranch near San Francisco. But still does age it work on the side. Right part time. That's right. And he's just he's again stopping state the stage coach robberies he must be. Okay. What else would he do? I mean, I don't know. You would hopefully they would come up with a plot. Nope. Okay. And I mean it ran for five years could what year fifty seven sixty two. Wow. That's. In eight. We should we should go pitcher Wells Fargo movie. Yeah. Right now. Now's the time. I definitely want to do it more like Tango and cash though possible fuck for Cleese. Okay. Thank you hanging with cash written. All yeah. Is kind of buttoned up Fargo, good luck getting him in a cage. He knows one law fog goes LA. In nineteen six Wells Fargo bought Crocker Bank and immediately fired one thousand six hundred and fifty people that's a cracker shit. Yes. Me, and then the laid off another three thousand three hundred and fifty within two years. Awesome. So they've become a cool business. Right. They call these payroll deductions. Not let me go. I'm sorry. You've been pay payroll reduced. Okay. Great. What does that? You're no longer on the payroll. Sort of takes the motivation out of my job. You can still come in and work. We're just not going to pay you anymore. And if it's all right with you, sir. I really liked to. Okay. Welcome to the team. Well, any I had to wear day work. What happened? Well, I still have to go in. But they've made some payroll reductions, but I can tell him valuable part. So I'm going in for free now. So. We're going to have to sell the boy, I didn't like him not a fan either. It's been a little. Well, okay. Let's not you smell like gin. I've been drinking gin. You just said eating gin. That's how much you drink anything. Oh my God. In nineteen ninety six in a hostile takeover wells acquired a First Interstate Bank. At least that takeovers called hostile yet. Three hundred fifty branches were closed immediately in twelve thousand pieces Christ. This is like ten minutes in. In nineteen ninety eight Norwest Bank bought Wells Fargo, but Norwest took the name Wells Fargo instead of making Wells Fargo changes name weird. I think I think Wells Fargo it was just a better name than Norwest. Maybe I mean that sounds like Kim and Tanya is next kid. Oh god. Please in two thousand twelve in a foreshadowing of what was to come wells pay any penalty of one hundred fifty thousand dollars for improperly switching customers among amongst mutual funds. So they just switching customers around a mutual funds without telling them. I mean, okay, we're done that. No, no, kind of takes the mutual part out of it. Three years later wells was fined three million for improper sales of mutual funds, which means what they're selling people's mutual funds. I don't know. I don't know how I didn't look into how improper it just gets. So okay. There's a lot. Okay. After the banking industry was deregulated by Bill Clinton and Republicans in congress. Wells Fargo saw the black community as a fertile ground for predatory lending wells created a unit in the mid Atlantic region to push expensive refinancing loans on black customers, particularly those living in Baltimore southeast Washington. And a Prince George's county, Maryland, but it also went on all over the country. A Wells Fargo lone officer, quote, they referred to some prime loans made in minority communities as ghetto loans. I mean, go ahead and minority customers as those people have bad credit. Those people don't pay their bills and quote, mud people. Who are they run by a ninety year old man is it like grand jury knows in charge. That's just abusive. It's not great. Yeah. A Bank office in Maryland had a affinity group. Marketing section that specifically hired black employees to call African American churches man, the idea behind this was that church leaders had a lot of influence in the black community, and they could convince their congregants to take out subprime loans. Not prime loans as most of these people were qualified for black. Komo customers were targeted to get higher interest worst loans, which were designed to white people out in the end, even though they had the credit to get normal loans. I just can't believe it's that calculated. Like, I know that it is crazy but that level of calculation that's Boric dad's a conspiracy. They're not they're not targeting church leaders to get by the way, the next time. Someone is on the side of the banks shove them. So. Yeah. So there, you know, they know these loans are fucked, and so they're putting people and the thing is is not a lot of us know or understand financing and banks and stuff. So you you trust the person you're talking to you. Yes. You totally you shouldn't. But you kind of have to because you don't know any time. It's almost like a lawyer because like when I've had to do liaise like some ways on stuff with my mother and her guy and like this. Just like look, man. I don't know what the fuck you're saying. But if you say, yes, let's do it. And I mean, they're just these guys are bring being predators. Yes. Yes. Wells even had software to generate marketing materials to minorities. If they wells loan officer anywhere in the US wanted to Sunday flyer to an African American neighborhood, soliciting subprime loans. He could ask access software that would print out a fly for people who spoke the language of quote African American. Sometimes the best way to see racism is like the like contortion contortion ISM of how they will try to be politically, correct. While being awful. I mean, it's just speak the language of the African American. You mean English? It's just. Like, the fact that that was fucking software, and you could access it. It's just fucking were. Starting to miss a John Fargo. The cop wells top producing subprime loan officer at the time Beth Jacobson, quote, we just went right after them. It was fertile ground. She she I mean, she's just crazy to hear someone say something. Across all banks during the mortgage lending madness black households making more than sixty eight thousand a year. We're five times more likely to hold high interest subprime mortgages as whites were income or lower income. But for Wells Fargo, the numbers were worse. Two percent of whites versus sixteen percent of blacks in the same income. Holy shit. Wells Fargo put bounties on minority borrowers. Jesus christ. We're just getting started. I know. And I'm that's what I'm that's why I just said that I'm like already like, ow. Uncle Beth quote by this. I mean that loan officers received cash incentives. She earned as much as seven hundred thousand one year and got all expenses trips to Cancun Palm Springs and the Bahamas anywhere. Nice. There Aerosmith Jimmy Buffett the beach boys the eagles, Sheryl Crowe Elton, John and James Taylor performed for employees, James Taylor. This is folk seat singer. This is this really is the whole problem is the way that if you you will sell your soul to make money, and and even the the musicians you just named the fucking what the fuck that'll need that fucking money. Look, I expect this from Steven Tyler Joe Perry. Call me. I expect I expect from the eagles. Yeah. I sure the deal. Yeah. Yeah. Beth would get gifts of artwork, crystal platters. She even a stick of the month club membership. It should be telling people what she did that so far. It's okay. So she was rolling in it. And she ended up buying three homes. She didn't ask a lot of questions, even though it was pretty obvious. Something wasn't right. Why would why would you ask a question? Hey, how come I get these great steaks once a month and Aerosmith semi contacts? And why do I have a flyers for how to talk to black people in two thousand seven while she was cranking out fifty five million a year in subprime loans. The CFO wells went on the news, and there he denied that Wells Fargo even had his subprime division. Seem pretty pretty obvious things were very wrong to Beth. So she quit and couldn't find another job pretty soon. All three of her homes were in foreclosure, she applied for a loan modification from Wells Fargo under the government half program. But she was refused. I mean. And that's what odyssey gets you. In two thousand eight as the economy melted down to the to the housing crisis. Government decided to bail out the banks not the people what Ciobea Bank was going tits up. The Bank held a shitload of toxic mortgages CitiGroup made a deal to purchase which is banking assets. For two point two billion the government brokered the deal. Joe via made any cove, isn't it is it what I think it is Kobe. They said, no. They should know what Kobe made. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't wanna leave you in a direction. It doesn't exist anymore. So cares. Right. Well, Don McCovey is upset. Kobe made an agreement with CitiBank that it would not quote participate in any discussions or negotiations with any third party. Okay. So the deals done. They're not supposed to talk to anybody else over. Okay. Then Treasury Secretary Paulson quietly issued a document revising the tax code. I miss Hank Paulson's sweet mug this gave huge benefits to certain banks that by other banks. One of those being Wells Fargo Wells Fargo from this revision of the tax code would get twenty five billion dollars. Now, suddenly Wells Fargo want to buy Wachovia in October. Wells got twenty five billion in tarp funds the biggest amount awarded in a single shot. And that exact same day. Wells had a surprise announcement. They would buy Kover fifteen billion. So they were going to get twenty five billion for doing it. And it costs them fifteen billion to actually do it. Basically, the the government thought that cove should be worth more than CitiBank was offering. So they revised the tax code. So that incentivize twenty five billion dollar windfall. Then they could buy and get have ten billion dollars left over. The people nothing. People would sorry. I shouldn't. I shouldn't say that where anger sorry. Sorry, nothing. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, sir. And put the ring out, I'll kiss Wells Fargo and CitiGroup Howdy public spat. And it ended up ended up in court. The government got involved again. And it was decided Wells Fargo would get the Bank. Wells Fargo chairman, quote, we believe this is the correct and right decision for our country and our citizens. Oh god. You know, what I'm like, I'm might need to lay down. We might need a half time. God damnit straight at different human. It's not a human that. I've come into contact with like I've met liars there. I've there are people who were full of shit that I've met for sure. But in like, not on the level of this sort of hitlerites angle on on the people and banking. It's magical how much money is enough money. I don't think that they think there is such a thing as enough money. Honestly. Well. Okay. Citigroup said it would sue for sixty billion dollars. Wells Fargo ended up paying city group. One hundred million, okay? In two thousand nine Wells Fargo had the second worst record among large banks in helping families modify home loans, right because the crisis is on the government set up a program to modify home loans with in order to get people to keep their home. They won't be able to keep their homes. Well, supposedly only six percent of his. Hold. Sorry that was housekeeping which should have you should have let housekeeping in for this. Sorry. What what did you just say? Oh, I'm just saying that you know, they settled for one hundred million after they were able to absorb Cova. Yeah. There was a ten billion dollar net gain. Oh, it is. Okay. Good. I'm glad you get Mike her would you Hinderer, Mike? So six percent of wells mortgage customers were getting a trial modification under hamp the program that was created to do that. So only six percent of people wells also paid no income tax in two thousand nine that that sort of stuff. Now, that's personal Dave that gets my goat thirty five percent corporate rate. It would have been about eighteen billion nothing. Instead, they pay nothing. Nothing. With its I mean. I already knew that in a way. But when I pay more money than wells. That's what I mean. It's like why do we have to do it? Why do all the people have to do this dumb bullshit exercise where you're constantly in fear that you're gonna accidentally mess up a number, and then you're going to get an audit or something like that? And reality. I mean, why not eighteen billion dollars? It'd probably be enough for a lot of our taxes as my guests. I mean with economy in the shitter wells had to figure out a way to get those profits backup in two thousand nine wells began having employees secretly create millions of unauthorized Bank and credit card accounts in customers names without the customers knowing it. Okay, familiar. They charged bullshit fees for the fake accounts. Wells employees had hit crazy sales targets. If you're if you're a person who banks with Wells Fargo, and you're are you noticing more that you're taxed more or that like your money is going or that you're losing money based on this? Well, I think that the I think the idea is like, you know, so they open up a savings account for you. And then the what's seven dollars a month. Right. Don't notice great. Have you know, a decent amount of money? Right. If you're scraping by in every dollar matters. But they're probably not targeting those people well, actually say too much credit there. But I really think that ideas like well fees people won't really notice. Right. Do this. Right. Well, CEO, John Stumpf publicly stated that each wells customers should have at least eight accounts with the company. Oh my gosh. I'm not just banking credit card like whatever they can get. I mean like I can think of three or four. No, I can't even. Talking the candy fund. Wells called this. It's quote girder eight initiative. How is being spelled GR dash t girl eight great eight accounts eight accounts. They're good. Feels like I work over there. Wall Street loved it. And stock went up over five. Dave, I hate what they're doing. Over five years, Bank, employees opened up over three point five million accounts. Without getting customers permission, and the employee's know what they're doing. They did it by moving money from a customer's existing account to a newly created one customers were then charged fees for not having if money in their original account holy shit as well as overdraft fees. I have you. I mean like I remember living with the overdraft cloud above me for a long time. And this when you get screwed on an overdraft fee. I mean, it's like it could be for like three dollars over. But then you're charged forty dollars. So now, you're down forty three dollars and your poor. And it's bake. It's like just say no to me that would be a lot of it. I just don't you? Just don't give you the money you asshole money. That's kind of sometimes what you're trying to figure out. I mean, I remember being vaughn's being a mom baby. Come on baby come on baby. It'd be like all right. Got it. And it'd been like, dude, I'm screwed. No. There is no reason for an over Jaffe. Yeah. Don't pay the fucking money. Yeah. I didn't have it. Don't beg. That's kind of what you do. Yeah. Yeah. So. Right. So they're moving money from one account and other people are getting charged overdraft fees. Wells employees submitted five hundred thousand five hundred sixty five thousand four hundred and forty-three credit card accounts without customer's knowledge fourteen thousand of those credit cards brought in the Bank over four hundred thousand dollars in fees employees said they were brutally pressured to meet sales quotas. How about whistle blow? We'll get their employees. Sabrina Bertrand, quote, I had managers yelling in my face. The wanting you to open up a dual checking account for people that couldn't even manage their original checking account, the banks district managers discussed sales for each branch and employees quote four times a day at eleven AM one pm at three PM and five PM. Wow. Employees started doing anything they could to keep their job. Gosh, I opening accounts they created something called pinning which was to have. ATM cards issued an assigned a pin number without customer authorization. I don't like where this is ended. Then they would get shit going. They would create fake Email addresses, and then more accounts the customer had no idea any of this was going on. But sit there are fake debit cards going and getting a second debit card made. And then they're taking it in. They're using that to open up other accounts for employees for customers, my well and employees in a way. Employees who do not meet daily goals were quote reprimanded and told to do whatever it takes to meet individual sales. Quotas management would tell employees to achieve solutions through family members. What? Yeah. I mean, this is like not a lot of places start at the top. And then moved down to pyramid. Schemes fucking crazy. This is the thing. I don't understand. And I know this is going to be the point. But like this is such a short sighted plan. Yeah. This is so like this monumental, and that's the problem with corporate. That's the problem with having to grow. Every core is that you have at some point you're going to have to not grow. And then the companies will just keep I mean, it's like a machine the guy running this doesn't care because right now profits are up. He looks good right now for sure. Yeah. Shit about the long-term. No, former branch manager in Florida Rita Marilo said, quote, we were constantly told we would end up working for McDonalds if we did not make sales quotas. We had to stay for what felt like after school detention or report to a call session on Saturdays. She couldn't take it and quit her job. She didn't have another job lined up. She lost her house workers who refused to go along with the fraud. God, we're fired. Dennis Russell was fired. After working for five years. He was expected to refer twenty three percent of his callers to a sales rep for product sales. Just go to hell just fuck off. Honestly, I mean, honestly how much when I call on you say, hey, do you want this? I just don't give up the worst. I usually don't have time. Well beyond that. It's just like enough. Yeah. Stop. I also don't need when I go to subway or some fucking shitty plays. I don't need to go online and fill out a review for the person. Well, I mean, I'll tell you this and we'll jump right back in. You're talking to a guy who used to go to El Pollo loco twice a day and under the back of his receipt would go home fill out a survey to get one dollar off the next chicken. And I was involved in a vicious cycle of every day going home from El Pollo loco filling that out. I mean like I knew the people at the drive throws. I came to receipts. I know it's supposed to be four thirty nine. But it should be two. Thirty nine is is Heidi back there. What's going on? You were winning. Yeah. Yeah. But the economy so the economy crashed the companies like Wells Fargo who had sold everyone. Should he's subprime mortgages to crash the economy. We're now trying to crash the economy would just fucking force people to make money right off of nobody crashed the people nobody has money. Yeah. Dennis was just talking to people who were quote in dire financial shape. They all had mortgages in foreclosure, credit cards and collections and cars being repossessed. There was literally no Bank product, you could offer them. So he was fired. The committee for better banks launched a campaign that got ten thousand signatures of Wells Fargo employees, stating they're being forced to do. This thing knew it was illegal unethical, and they all felt really bad the company Nord the petition and continue the process. Someone opened up accounts for friends and family employees, quote there be days where we would open five checking accounts for friends and family and just go home early management was fully aware of what was going on some employees tapped every family member or friend. They had other spent holiday dinners trying to convince all their family members to sign up for counts. The problem is you seem a little desperate. I do not. I'm just saying. I think there's a I think Wells Fargo is a great home and a great place for, you know, look to sign the sign the, okay everyone. We're not having Turkey. What signs the goddamn papers? Look. We just eat. No. We're not eating until every guys. I'm trying to help you the let me talk, Dan. Okay. Let me like God. I mean, you make me sound crazy scientist shut the fuck up Verson jut up your I bleed. Yeah. Of course, they're bleeding. I haven't slept in a week. I'm not under a lot of pressure. Gave it shut up. Okay. I just need everyone here to just sign up for some accounts. Okay. And you can. Trust. Let's hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen to me. I'm you know. Hi, pal. Hey, son thing I'm pal. I love you guys. I love you guys so much like let me get so much. Why don't we just do? Why don't we just do? This can I let's shut up. I'm not trying to be rude. I love you so much. Let me shut up. Why don't we just do the thing where everybody just opens a credit card? Okay. And then we can have a nice a nice Christmas. Beal this is the most unorthodox. Prayer. We've had to start thanksgiving. I'm in. Okay. Come on guys that paperwork, and let's get the gravy going. All right. I got a loaded gun. All right. We're outside and I'll sign up for some goddamn credit cards. One. It's just one branch manager in the Pacific. Northwest was dismayed to learn employees had talked a homeless woman into opening six checking and savings account. Dave. I mean, this like this is just getting so much worse. By by the to every two minutes fees came to thirty nine dollars a month. This is unbelievable. How would there just like walking down the street looking for homeless people? They live in that level of fear of these of the Bank because they're going to get fired, and they have other jobs. I mean, and I understand it's it's a recession. I understand that the dire nature of the it is. You know, it's like it's like gladiators. I mean, it's just like. Okay. Capitalism's good. So some told employees to make unauthorized accounts, and then just apologize when the customer called and say it was a mistake when one Bank manager in Los Angeles called the company whistle blower hotline to report all the ongoing fraud. He was fired within two weeks. He was unable to find a job in banking at all because wells blacklisted him you seen the Guitton watched the fake opening and closing of accounts in her Saint Helena's branch. So she told her manager nothing happened next. She did what she was told to do during training and called the whistle blower hotline. Nothing happened. She kept going up the chain up the chain to an HR rep. And then the regional manager when you saving happy when you say blower hotline that is for Wells Fargo in internal whistleblower hotline. Well, I mean, that's a whistle. That doesn't have the little ball in it. Not yet. It's probably it ain't a whistle. No. She then started being harassed at work and was fired for insubordination. So the whistle blower hotline was really a place to let them know to fire you because you were going to tattle. That's right. She sued Wells Fargo and lost and ended up with eighteen thousand in court costs afterwards. No one would hire her because she was a troublemaker. During trainings, wells emphasized. How important their ethics code was and urged employees to call the confidential hotline if they saw anything inappropriate, right? Yeah. Why wouldn't you? The Holland became something. People would call and then be fired. A mister Johnson and Malibu was fired three days after reporting illegal opening of accounts. He was victim from his house and eventually all his possessions in a storage unit were auctioned off because he couldn't pay the Bill. So so that's why people are doing it. Because if they don't. Yeah, they lose every. No, I mean, look what what's socialists beings when they when they say this slavery. Yeah. Because really I mean, you know, like they're obviously making a wrong ethical judgment. But it is being it you this is like, obviously. Yeah. This is where it all ends when you just have the people pitted against each other one more estimated the number of people who've been fired for reporting illegally. Was in the tens of thousands. She's in may two thousand thirteen wells jumped into the wonderful world of payday loans, which would take advantage of desperate. People living on the edge. The annual percentage rate for payday loans is between two hundred and twenty five and three hundred thousand percent sorry. Two hundred twenty five in three hundred percent holy shit. So that's your annual annual rate on the loan. Are you explain what payday loans are? Okay. Okay. So a payday loan is you you have you make a certain amount of money. You're short on money. You're short on money. Like, you're you have a big Bank built your car broke down. You have a medical Bill. So you need five thousand dollars you lesson that you need you need eight hundred eight hundred dollars. So you go in and you say I have a job here's my receipts. Can I get a loan for this amount? And they say, yes. But the the rate is extraordinary. And so within within two weeks you owe the same amount. You just got like, it's just. I it's just much into postponing your disaster and making it more impossible. But it's not now, and the reason this is legal is because both Democrats and Republicans support it one hundred percent, but they've those two parties we get there. More than twenty five percent of payday loan. Borrowers are on social security. Okay. Almost all payday loans lead to a negative balance after two months and the need to take out another loan. Wells Fargo was the only large Bank in the country now involved in payday loans. They are I mean, okay. I mean, like all banks are I mean, all big banks are vile, vile. But Wells Fargo is really it's there, right? Monsters in two thousand fifteen Wells Fargo continued its relentless assault on human beings trying to take their homes with no documentation, a New York. Westchester county woman called Cynthia Carso who was a speech pathologist for autistic children was continuing years long, fight wells, just forged documents to say they should be able to take her home. My God, I honest to God, they should've just stuck to the human delivering business. That was a simpler time wasn't it. The judge in the case overseeing the case judge drain quote, the blank endorsement upon which Wells Fargo was relying was forged. Nevertheless, it does show a general willingness and practice on Wells Fargo's part to create documentary evidence after the fact when enforce it gets claims, which is extrordinary. She's offended. She's saying that he literally just saying Wells Fargo was foraging document approved. They're fucking case. Is that illegal to the court is that illegal, Dave, I think so a year before the case had revealed that Wells Fargo setup internal procedures in a hundred and fifty page. Wells Fargo for closure attorney procedures manual to fabricate for closure papers on demand. God a fucking training manual the brashness anytime they had a house they wanted to for clothes on. But couldn't find the documents. They would just create the documents. So the housing crisis happened because there was so many fucking loans being done bullshit lows. And there's so much bullshit of things moving around. And so they have they have so many houses, they believe they own, but they have no documents to prove it. So it was called robo Cup robo. Robo stamping or something, but they had buildings in which all the banks would just tell tell these people in these buildings to just create documents fake documents because they believed they own the homes. This is widespread it all banks one VP of loan documentation, for Wells Fargo said she signed as many as five hundred foreclosure papers a day in a deposition. She admitted she did not verify the principal and interest the Bank claimed the bar owed. The only thing she checked was whether her name and the title were accurate. She said she thought the documents had been reviewed by outside lawyers. So they're hiring people with absolutely no experience in business or law or finance because they know advantage ask questions, right, right? Herman John Kennedy worked as a manager heading up a quote, default documents department. That's a good department to have for sure definitely want to open one of those within. We're not Jewish. Call a forged documents department documents on me, I don't really care anymore. I don't really care either. Yeah. Let's call it. The screw department Fargo under oath. He admitted to signing between fifty and one hundred fifty documents each day there were being created to administer an enforced wells defaulted loans. Judge drain, quote, Mr. Kennedy's testimony does not stop at describing manufactured mortgage assignments. He also testified that his assignments teams duties were not limited to processing assignments, including when determined necessary creating them. Well, it's very creative. Has she thought about that? By the way, a little judgy. How about some points for being creative and taking a chance. How about how about for creating the conditions that we thought only Satan could work at? But here I am doing it been good Lord. There's nothing wrong with being daring. Yeah. How do I play your honor bold, very bold? Very bold fucking crazy. Like, a FOX. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're Wells Fargo's lawyer, you're like, okay. So let's just get all the information out on the table because it seems like things are really leaking out at a horrid pace. So so they're not just making documents up if they didn't have them. So they are making a dog if they didn't this happening all over the country, right? All those wells was hit with a fine after five in two thousand eleven eighty-five five million for pushing people into subprime mortgage loans. Thirty seven million for municipal bond, rigging two thousand twelve on several banks find several of the bank's refund twenty five billion for their part in the housing crisis. But this was a largely just a bullshit fine. Only three point five billion of that. We're payments to wronged homeowners. The rest was restless for quote consumer relief that ultimately helped the bottom line of the banks where did that money go that money went to the government that just put it right back to the banks? Will the government said this is a fine, right? Yeah. I've been doing fine. So three point five billion of it went to people who needed help. Right. And then the rest was just like set up new products for people to help them. It just another way for them to make money. So it was just an investment for the Bank. Sure. Yeah. Great that really reached. Because now they have some money to play with. They got a little funny money the walking around money. You know what I mean? That really freaked far fewer hours than it was supposed to that will sit that wait. You mean, the three point five reached not enough people like even that's being asked in July two thousand twelve Wells' finally find for the pattern of discrimination against African American and Hispanic mortgage borrowers. What was the fine here? Remember, a sure it was. Mr. TRAN DOI duck was born in Vietnam in one thousand nine hundred sixty one he was thirteen when the North Vietnamese took over the government in nineteen seventy five his father was sent to prison camp for years when he was released he got his son out of the country. Tran went to Cambodia where he was captured by the Kamerhe ruse. They took him to a camp where they made the seventeen year old their slave and forced him to dig wells, quote, sometimes the soldiers got drunk and took me out and put AK47.'s to my head. So I would pass out eight months later, he was traded to aid workers for humanitarian supplies accu-, though of rice two boxes of canned tuna two boxes of sardines in tomato sauce, antibiotics and some other medical supply this traded for this. The aid workers then helped him migrate to United States. His first job in America was dishwasher, then he worked in payment processing at a local Bank in two thousand and two. He started working in a call center for Wells Fargo collections in two thousand thirteen he transferred to the home equity division nobly as tran- examined loans. He realized wells was missing some paperwork that proved the borrowers owed money just printed up. We have a whole thing. It just actually there's three stacks of paper over there. Just staple those together. It's pretty straightforward name and just write a name make up a name right name. Nobody got not my as pressure bad. Tramways told the loans were valid, but he did not have access to all the bars information in the systems. Okay. So one day he got a call from a man in North Carolina man was eighty eight years old his wife had just gotten a letter from Wells Fargo saying showed ninety thousand dollars on her house. And if she didn't pay ninety days, they would foreclose. The house had been paid off thirty years before. Okay. The wife had Alzheimer's. Now TRAN tried to find the documents there were none anywhere. So he went to his boss who said not to follow up with it. Okay. Quote. It's no problem. If the customer calls back, tell them it's a balloon loan. Wait. So it's just whatever it takes to close. It's not even close them or whatever. Whatever whatever it takes to close that deal to take their house, literally stealing someone's home. Yes. Right. And the boss is like fuck it, and it's got a balloon, by the way. No, someone that's happened to I know someone who was dealing calling up Wells Fargo and dealing with them and saying this, and they were lying to him the whole time and he lost his house. So a balloon loan if you don't know as type alone, which it sounds like it's a small amount of small amount of small amount. And then you owe huge amount. And it's basically designed to fuck you out of your house, right? People's idea was that they would buy a house and before the bloom loan payment came due. They would sell the house right to make money. But what happened is everyone's balloon payment loans came to at the same time and the economy crash, no one could buy houses. So another manager said if there were no documents, quote that is not something we would share with the customer under any circumstances. That's not something we share what the customer. We don't tell them the true new trend felt very uncomfortable. That's weird. Oh, did he have a moral compass gay? He had he had some people in banking of human empathy. He was inflicted with ethics. Yes. Yes. Right. Yes. Sad when that happens. So. Yeah. So the guy calls back, and he's now demanding proof from wells about this money sent him a picture of a balloon TRAN got a call from another woman who had not taken out alone. But received a notice to one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. I mean, imagine getting a letter in the mail that says this, especially if you're you know, you're fucked. Well, that's the thing. Right. You see that? And you're like, oh, man. This is going to be a fight. Yep. She had children if they took her home, the family would be homeless again wells had no paperwork for this loan. So train went to his boss and said, this is obviously fraud within months, he was fired. Hey, call the whistleblower line. Yeah. Call the whistleblower line. Let them know. It's great. That's where all that stuff. Goes if any friends feel the same way them call. They did not tell him why he was being fired. Oh, well, I wonder what do you think? It was. They said if you buy someone's lunch, they said if he wanted to reason is you call human resources. Oh, yeah. Right. That's right. Yeah. Call human resources where there's another guy. Like, what's he saying? We'll tell them he had a balloon contract where they're making documents. But why they fire people? Yeah. HR told him if he was he was fired for failing to orally respond to a customer during a call. Piece of shit. We have the greatest shit reasons. Let me let me give this guy won. This actually like it's the magic eight ball, and you just shake it. And then it'll give you a bullshit thing to say to the guy we kinda made a game out of it. Oh, you were vied for looking at someone weird. Yeah. Don't you? Remember, we have footage. Great in two thousand fifteen transit wells for retaliation. You want to force wells to admit publicly. They were wrong quote. They have so much money. They use that money to buy off the American Justice system, and they never go to court. Now, imagine a guy like this. What he's been through is able to stick it out a little bit more than other people because he had that history where you an AK47. put to his head. So he was very adamant about never settling. And then this year. He settled it was supposed to be a seven figure payment that he was supposed to get. Yeah. That's the okay that he probably got the guy whose wife who has Alzheimer's is still to the day, fighting Wells Fargo over loan that is not real fuck as are thousands of people across the country. Sorry. Well, have I mean? Obviously like because I know the the thirty thousand foot overview of the story. Wells Fargo seemingly. I mean, by the way, they came. They had that commercial where they're like. I mean, they're just so they will say anything. There. They were forced to. Do some sort of national program where they are giving money to different places and different things. And they're forced to do it. It's part of their. The pen with the Justice department, and they're putting on ads acting like they're doing it out of the goodness of their heart. Right. And they're sending mayors around the country letters in the mayors like thank you for doing this. No one has any idea that it's a penalty. This fucking crazy. So banking with herbalife. In June, two thousand sixteen Wells Fargo and other banks announced they would once again start making subprime loans. Well. How is that the house come back for they got rid of the number? They pass laws, and then they got rid of them. All. People can get alone with just three percent down. And they get a lower interest rate. If they go to a government sponsored personal finance class. Doesn't matter if you have bad credit. And the banks lowered their credit guidelines, they accept documentation from quote, traditional sources was that themselves. Non-traditional sources is what got us into the fucking crisis in the first place. Happy to repeat it the Federal Housing agencies. Specifically Fannie Mae are helping and are set up to buy the subprime loans from Wells Fargo's website, quote, Wells Fargo will service the loans, but Fannie Mae will buy them. I don't fully understand what. So Wells Fargo is making the loan and then they're selling it off to. Oh, right. Which is what happened with right, so prime mortgage crisis. So as Fargo makes the prophet and the tax payers assume the risk. Literally going after people who shouldn't have loans again. Well, because they I mean, we're not punished. Yeah. Because I mean, why why would they not nobody went to fucking jail. Yeah. Nobody went to fucking jail. They pay re polder. Nobody went to fucking jail. In July, two thousand sixteen Wells Fargo announced the head. So we get the made in here. Like, we're hitting a really good run. Now, this would be when we want her in two thousand sixteen Wells Fargo announced the head of the department of fake accounts. Caroline, that's what I was gonna say. But Dave fifteen years away from that being allowed. I'm the CEO of total bullshit. All you, really. I'm I'm I run the fuck the customer. Oh, I've heard I'm believe about you. Stop. Hi. I'm faking. Her name was Carolyn told us debt. It was announced in July two thousand sixteen. She would retire at the end of the year. She wasn't retying immediately. Because at the end of the issue would get nineteen million in stock options. Dude, I mean already know the bullshit, but this again is very infuriating on September eighth. Two thousand nineteen million dollars. Fuck on September eighth nineteen two thousand sixteen. The public learned the scope of wells fake account mess, which have been going on now for fucking years. The Bank was given a one hundred eighty five million dollar fine. The plan had always been to blame employees when the shit came down. So Wells Fargo did because the CEO called the whistle blower line. Wells Fargo, then fired five thousand three hundred people who were doing all of this to survive not getting fired because there was no real money to be made for them outside of this. Right. David Vladeck eight George I think I'm going to go back in time and beat the shit out of Wells Fargo, wouldn't that be the thing to do? Yeah. That's how you stop. All this is like killing Hitler, you go to that back room where they thought about it. Yeah. David Vladeck, a Georgetown University law professor and former director at the Federal Trade Commission's bureau of consumer protection. Quote, one wonders whether a penalty of one hundred million is enough. It sounds like a big number for a Bank, the size of Wells Fargo. It isn't who said that a guy a law professor and former director of the Federal Trade gosh. Well, for sure he's even giving them a little too much credit with. That's it just doesn't seem right. Wells wrote an Email to Bank employees when the think scandal broke. Hey, fuck you guys. Quote, at Wells Fargo when we make mistakes, we're open about it. We take responsibility and we take action. That's why they fired all the employees. Yeah. They're taking responsibility in changing the culture that they enforced. They created the Bank released a statement saying it had made a number of quote, fundamental changes to ensure our team members are not being pressured to sell products. They would now have enhanced trading that would value ethics and how to report concerns. Yeah. Well, you know what call the whistleblower hotline. We something like calling. Yeah. That's that's a good thing to put in place. CEO trae a big brother. Listen, live whistle blower. Sorry. What did I say? God. What did I say see, you stump for the end of September said he would forfeit his salary, including a bonus and forty one million in stock, but people were still pissed wells then decided to claw back the nineteen million from Caroline tola stret- and said, she was fired. So clawback is an actual banking term in which you go. And take money back from someone that you've paid them. Okay. And they are actually taking money away from people do any orbiting. Orbiting the head of the department. People are still pissed and Tober wells retroactively fired her. So they went back and her what before she was fired. Now, this is a lot back another forty seven point three million and pay. But I think what they're saying is you were doing illegal stuff. We know we found out. So we're right found out about what we were. We knew we're very disappointed in you to think. So now, they took back another forty seven point three million so altogether. That's like sixty sixty six million dollars. How hard for th-? We're things for Kerry. Not at all what they hundred twenty four point six million in stocks and options CEO, John Trump, quote, a trusted colleague, and dear friend, friend. Carey tell us debt has been one of our most valued Wells Fargo leaders, a standard bearer of culture a champion for our customers. Do they know how to fire someone and a role model for responsible principal and inclusive leadership? Yep. Well, I mean, you know, what's crazy is to be able to tow the line between. Being honest capable and also walking away with one hundred twenty million dollars almost seems like those two are the don't fit again it, really oddly. Yeah. He'll say it. Yeah. See john. Trump testified at a Senate banking committee hearing it didn't go. Well, he had trouble answering direct questions and try to stick to his talking points. He was pretty much slaughtered. He lied, and he left looking like an idiot days later. It was real revealed. Wells Fargo had been illegally repossessing cars of members of the military. Got federal law requires banks to get a court order before repossessing car from members of the military because they are going into the like if they're working job and then go into the military their salary goes down. Right. It's like a thing where they're trying to help them out. Right courts have to sign off on repos. If the servicemember took out the loan and made a payment prior to entering the service. National guardsmen on North Carolina complained that has carbon seized while he was preparing to deploy to Afghantistan in two thousand fifteen wells auctioned his car off then tried to force the family to pay the ten thousand remaining balance. This began investigation turns out Wells Fargo begun this practice in two thousand and six these they had repossessed four hundred thirteen cars, it was revealed between two thousand eight and two thousand fifteen but a year later that number suddenly jumped eight hundred sixty cars. But that wasn't their only car scam wells required people who got Car Loans to have comprehensive insurance if the customer failed to get insurance. The wells contracts at the Bank could buy it for them and charge them. Let me guess they were looking for like some cheap stuff. They were on hold with Geico the whole time like, nah, it's not good enough. This is exactly what they did. They bought insurance for customers who would already purchased insurance. What I mean? This is just insane. Wells did this to over eight hundred thousand customers oh my God. I think you're going to say eight hundred hurt this put undue financial burden on many, which led to twenty five thousand people have in their cars repossessed either way when you bring up that military aspect like, you know, would our rage at people who do not support people who serve their country, not be better pointed towards a Bank than a God, damned, dude. Taking a kneel during a football game with calling that unpatriotic one would think so right. Welles promised to pay sixty four million in cash refunds to these people that worked out one hundred and forty dollars per person. Dave, why didn't you cut me off? There's a happy ending. They'll get one hundred forty dollars. If your car is repossessed, you get eight hundred dollars. Okay. That should cover nothing. Yeah. Most Fargo said the insurance issue is due to inadequate checks and balances at the Bank, dude, you're a Bank, you're all about checks and fucking balances. Literally. Is your whole thing. Wells Fargo spokesman, quote, we take full responsibility for our failure. Boy boy. Well, welcome to the egg on our face news conference, the annual one, oh, we did it again, boy CEO's Trump testified in front of the house of representatives Representative Michael Capuano said strength was quote, clearly and unequivocally guilty of a range of crimes including conspiracy to commit fraud conspiracy to commit identity theft and Rocketeer ring do the Obama administration charge him. Let me yes. No, oh weird. Stump said, he learned of the unauthorized account problem in two thousand thirteen this was a lie. It was real. He was sent a detailed letter from an employee about the fraud in two thousand seven after his testimony. So he's lied. He committed crimes, but he's also heard himself in front of congress after his testimony Trump agreed to it should've just said he like beer. It's the way you wiggle your way out of this stuff after testimonies Trump agreed to a forty one million dollar clawback. On October twelfth two thousand sixteen John's Trump suddenly retired from Wells Fargo CO. I'm curious. I mean, he must have left owing them money you walked with one hundred and thirty four million Christ. What do you do with that much money should be in prison? Yeah, he should be fucking prison. I have no money. Yeah. That's what that's what his punishment should be all of his possessions are taken away you can live in fuck and halfway house for the rest of his life. And he and he is in prison for fucking thirty. How about this get him to income level so low that Wells Fargo is approaching him to open new Bank accounts. And it's like this this guy, you couldn't prosecute. He'll. I mean, the whole reason I know the answer. Off. Yeah. Strep was replaced by Tim Sloan a longtime Wells Fargo insider last names. Just sounds shady strength Sloan slow does the former boss of Kerry Tolstoy. Oh, so he. No, the guy who did all this. Yeah. Sloane quote, my immediate. I'm a CEO clawback goat my immediate and highest priority is to restore trust in Wells Fargo. Yeah. Well to someone do it in April two thousand seventeen it was revealed that Wells Fargo had been overcharging small businesses for processing credit card transactions. Can we have a list of the places that Wells Fargo was not screwing people when the small business owners tried to leave wells? They were charged quote, massive termination fees. I'm gonna give them a termination fee overbilling scheme used deceptive language and a hundred and sixty three page contract that was purposely designed to confuse small business owners who didn't have legal expertise. So there that ahead of their bullshit to they are in a way just like working day to day like a coke addict. But by the same token, they are savvy enough to have paperwork in place that when these people are going to reject what they're doing. They'll still be able to screw. Yeah. It's good stuff. Though wells charged the small businesses monthly fees for not meeting the minimum number of transactions. Even though there was no such clause in the just insane thing to have you didn't do enough with your money. So we're pissed look you to make enough money. So guess what we're going to charge you money. Yeah. You gotta know money fee. It's gonna cost you money. And June two thousand seventeen it was revealed. Wells Fargo is modifying mortgages without telling the buyers. I mean, we need a nanny Cam. Christopher nelson. Cotton had sixteen sixteen years left on their mortgage, but medical expenses forced them into bankruptcy. Wells, then changed their Margaret several times without getting their approval and extended the mortgage by twenty six years, which increased their interest payments by one hundred forty thousand dollars. This is so crazy. It is still not known how extensive is practice is. But wells has admitted to doing it at least one hundred times. Well, that means a million a million, and I've Tober came to light that wells was charging mortgage borrowers for missing a deadline to lock in promised interest rates, even though the delays were Wells Fargo's fault. Well, but again, they can't pay that broke. That's right. They're giving all the money away in August of this year. It was revealed wells had a quote calculation error that affected. Hundreds of homeowners who applied for mortgage modifications from two thousand ten to two thousand fifteen here's a term. They can't use anymore error. It was a software issue that somehow miscalculated whether or not homeowners eligible for the home affordable modification program that was created to help people to remain in their homes after the housing. Of course, of course, it is around six hundred twenty five people were wrongly denied mortgage modifications, four hundred lost their homes wells, then set aside eight million to compensate them, which is twelve thousand per owner. Patricia McCoy a former government mortgage officials said about these new mortgage. Revelations quote Wells Fargo had a business model until all this came to light that emphasize generating fees charged customers under duplicitous circumstances, simply for the sake of padding revenue. Someone's got a new slogan. Well, given one point five billion from the government as part of the program seventy percent of that went to homeowners the restaurant to investors and the servicer. I don't understand that. Why would how is that even possible? A lot of people will say a bomb is biggest failure was the ham program. And if you get into it, it's abominable what happened. It's Ozama bubble wells released a statement saying it was quote, sorry. Very sorry. We're very sorry. My bed. You know, what they say? Fully wants shame on you full you for about thirty years. Shame on us. Sorry. Sorry. Well that came out wrong on you again. Shame on shame on full geared. It foamy wants full. Sorry fool me once Femi once we're charging you a fee who foo- fool, you a budget times. I got a boat. Yes. That's it. That's the one that was. Wells paid to two billion settlement this year for misleading. Investors about it subprime mortgages and the run up to the financial crisis. The Bank had revenues of two in two thousand seventeen of eighty eight point four billion a comparible impact for a family living on seventy five thousand dollars a year would be a fine of one thousand seven hundred eighty one dollars. Right. So you have to find them eight billion dollars. Yeah. That's what you have to find the Bank. Yeah. Wells Fargo announced it was refunding tens of millions of dollars to clients because they had add on products without customers knowing same as the fake accounts. No, this is a totally different thing. These included everything from pet insurance to home warranties to legal services all had monthly fees. All they just put on people's accounts, and then do people notice on their accounts or you do right? There's a lot of money, and you don't or you don't or you're like you have some money. But you also just are sort of like, you know, I mean, I like check it. But I don't like check. Check a pet insurance. What's that thirty dollars a month or something crazy? Yeah. Sure. Well, that's the beauty of this process. It is what it is every that's what this process is all of these things are all this money's being generated by small bullshit fees, right people. But for poor people. It's extraordinary. In February four people like the disgraced CEOs those poor guys in February two thousand eighteen the Federal Reserve barred Wells Fargo from growing any larger until it cleaned up its business practices. So that's unprecedented. Wells Fargo is one of the biggest funders of the Dakota Access pipeline, private prisons, payday loans and currently funds. Trump's immigration centers. God at the time of this recording Wells Fargo has the highest market valuation. Among any Bank in America worth just north of two hundred and fifty billion Berkshire Hathaway the investment firm run by investor. Warren Buffett is the company's biggest shareholder when I moved to California in two thousand and one open a checking account with Wells Fargo this. I would have they said it could not open a checking account unless they also picked up a savings account. I told them I did not want to savings account because I I like to have my savings account at a separate Bank. They shared me. There would never be a fee, and then I had to open the account years later. I discovered my empty savings account, and it now had a deficit of around seventy dollars because they were charging the fee. Seattle in Los Angeles have voted to sever ties those Fargo after their current financial services contracts, and please contact your city about doing the same thing. Some facts about how banks over cities in Los Angeles fifty percent of all infrastructure infrastructure, spending fifty percent of all infrastructure spending goes directly into bankers pocket. Our tax dollars helped finance Lito pipelines weapons. Creators private prisons, including the cages that children are being held in at the border. There's proportion there's a proposition in Los Angeles to create a public Bank proposition b public banks are only for public money things. Like tech dollar tax dollars electric, Bill payments and fees. Private banks use your money to pay politicians to skirt laws to put our entire Konami risk as we saw in two thousand seven they invest in tobacco companies oil companies weapons manufacturers, they're helping destroy the planet, and as we can see they totally fuck over everyone and no one holds them accountable. A public Bank would have to abide by strict rules about how it manages our money. And we get the say in what it invests in loans made in Los Angeles would be for Los Angeles. This would be a great step in reversing the economic inequality that plagues our country public Bank would. Los Angeles money, we owe three billion in debt service to Wall Street every year it public Bank with lower borrowing costs and much more of that money would stay in the city and be spent on the things we need vote. Yes. On proposition b. I'm not sold. Now. When people say that Obama was a great president. Yeah. A great president does not allow criminals to fuck over millions of people and walk away with millions of dollars. And if you don't think that that reverberated emotionally in every fucking person that voted against Hillary Clinton. You're wrong. People are mad and they're mad for a reason. There is no Justice in a country that does that. And at the same time people being locked up for twenty years for smoking a fucking joint. So you wonder why people are angry, it's pretty fucking obvious. Yes. Exactly. Truly, but. You know, it really is like that's why like when there are little things you can do like vote. Yes. On be like that you have to you. Because these chances come along not that often to actually do something that can make a difference, and that could be a model for other places and the companies are their machines that will never stop trying to take all the money that they can get the North Dakota has had a public Bank since one thousand nine hundred ten it's great functioning. It's all good. If our government isn't going to hold these banks and people accountable, then we need to take the money from them. Yeah. That's it. There is no other solution. Yeah. I mean, it is. It's just it's the sopranos. I mean, it's just like the the the this is what's doing this in the fucking mob. The not that this is in is. I mean, everybody involved in that scheme at the top wins. And then everybody below them. I mean, it really is all the employees say, it's a hidden. It's a pyramid scheme that nobody ever sold to you. Yeah. All the employees got fucked all of the all of the customers got fucked. Everybody got fucked politicians did not get fucked. The people running this game to not get fucked. They walked away with millions of dollars. I'm gonna put like so many whistles and a pillowcase and just go beat the shit out of some of them. You blow whistles now you pitch you like that you motherfucker. Dude. I mean, you know, like, we're in a we're in a a cannonball run to see which thing is going to screw us over the most you, but. You know? I mean, if you have money coming into your city, your town, Los Angeles has ninety thousand homeless people like being able to actually do some stuff towards that would be helpful. And you should idea that you just get half that half of your money goes half of that money goes to the banks. Right. I mean, it's just it's it's so much money. It's just insane. They charge so much for fees, and they do it to pension everybody. But everybody in every city should be asking for public Bank. Now, this is the answer to what they're doing ask your city councils, your mayor start pushing for public banks. This is the way to beat them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway. Always good to have one of our little fiery afternoon conversations. All right. We still signed cars still still happening. We signed a dude also. Yeah, we send a man we send cars and men so congrats to us. All right. Well, well else. Bye. Bye.

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The Weird, Weird History of Shipping: Part I

Ridiculous History

33:02 min | 11 months ago

The Weird, Weird History of Shipping: Part I

"Hey ridiculous historians been here. The easiest place to find holiday gifts for everyone on my list is online and now getting all the packages as I orders. Easier to. That's thanks to Fedex. I don't have to worry about being home to receive a package because I can take more control of where they're delivered. I simply I send my fedex packages to the nearest pickup location in my neighborhood and picked them up from there. It's so convenient with over thirteen thousand locations across the country. You can pick up your fedex packages near you to visit FEDEX DOT com slash holiday guide to learn more ridiculous histories of production of iheartradio. You Welcome to the show ridiculous historians. Thank you for tuning in. If you are a resident of these United States. You may be familiar with something we call the. US Postal Service There there's still a big deal. It's a crazy operation when you think about it and just for a quick statistic every single day they process and deliver one hundred eighty seven point eight million pieces of just First Class Mail every twenty four hours. Hi I'm Ben Bullet. Hey I'm Noah Brown and I'll tell you I didn't realize until he dug into this subject The US Postal Service wasn't even established officially officially until the seventy S. That's correct insane to me. I figured it was just something that was around since time immemorial you hear about Benjamin Franklin being You know the first official postmaster Mr General But that they did not have a government body it was more of like a ad hoc kind of situation. Yeah it was a department the post office department not the Postal Service Service right. So we also would be remiss if we didn't send an audible shoutout in the ear mail to our Super Uber Producer. Casey peg room and speaking of you know I like that. You bring up the surprising recent origin of this this This modern postal service. Because I was thinking about this off air. Is it easier or more difficult to run a postal all service today because we know that there's this amazing technology right we have GPS tracking systems Galore but we also have many many any more people millions more addresses still. I think it's easier to run a postal service or package service now than it was back in the a day. That is our topic for this episode. The weird weird weird history of shipping. Just in general. You know who I was ship Casey JC Penney and Pika Chew. And that's A. That's a phantom reference. I it is. We're talking about today though. This is a different kind of shipping. Oh Shipping and receiving got Casey the Seems to approve of my my shipping choice. I do yes Casey on the case Casey on the case. So let's let's think about it like what's what's the weirdest thing you guys have ever mailed or received in the mail I once received a A single floor. Tom Drum like a got like from a Yamaha drum kit like just the Tom and then I ended up meeting the guy who I bought it from on Ebay completely randomly. I was in the market for a single drum found one to my liking and and then it ended up the guy from Athens where I am eventually moved and his name is tiger the drummer guy the guy okay. Would you name the Drum Yamaha. Sorry you got the factory name exactly because some people name their instruments. That's real thing. Yeah I wonder if you have a drum kit drummer. Do you name each individual drum or G. Give the whole kid a single name. Casey your agenda. What do you think I think it's more of a kit thing? Yeah then individual drums. Maybe if you have like a special symbol or something maybe give it a name but yeah yeah Like old zillow or something. Yes so the response questions did ask. I have a weird shipping story. It's very short it. It won't take too long so I used to live out in the hinterlands very small area in Central America and I had to get some medication ship. Medication itself is not unusual. It's sent through the post all the time but I was so far away from the US and so far away from regular shipping routes is that this had to come. Let's see picked up out of pharmacy put in international mail carried by a private carrier once got in country and then the last two stops It went on the back of a pickup truck. There was a guy in the back of a pickup truck. It went about ten miles that way and then it was handed off to a corier on a dirt bike and there wasn't really an address so I had to go stand in front of this building. which is the main drag of town and just wait till I see the right guy in the dirt bike? I'm the only one by the way in this scenario. Who is who looks? Looks like I do. I'm pretty recognized so flag him down or did he just has made a beeline right for you. He recognized he he saw from a distance is so weird because I can see Z.. Through the stamps and the markings how many different kinds of systems this had gone through. And that's that's what. I am still baffled by you. Know Win when you have something. Very delicate for instance like a drum shipped through the mail. or You have something even normal shipped through. Do you know to the ends of the Earth. How can we do that? It's impressive as a species. It's really funny. been the the the situation that you just described is not too far removed for for what became the order of the day for shipping. It would be this kind of going around your ass to get to your elbow situation where steamships would go. Oh down to Panama and then they would you know transfer the deliveries to horses. Who would then make a journey over the very very treacherous isthmus of Panama and then picked up again by new ships and taken up the Pacific coast And that that was how it was done until eighteen. Fifty eight win. When overland delivering became much more of a thing and a bidding war ensued? We're getting a little ahead of ourselves but I really like your story. It really sets the tone for this this topic now. Thanks I mean yours is well the more things change right the the more they stay the same history doesn't repeat but it tends to rhyme. It's true I liked that. You brought up the freeze ad hoc at the top of the show because before the eighteen hundreds what we would call a package courier. Delivery Service List pretty unorganized. There wasn't a huge central authority. You would say okay. I need to send Duke Duke Casey Peg Room a not a balustrade. That's too big a loot for some reason your senior loot l.. Ut Sorry. What is a balustrade? Ben I've always wondered wondered that it was in an Aimee Mann Song and I never knew what it was. Is it like a banister. It's a it's kind of it's a railing and it's kind of ornamental thing like if you ever drive by an apartment building and you see maybe a nice one with like a stone railing around one of the balconies that is a balustrade that railing and and things will stems. Those are balancers sat right. That is true. That'd be hard to ship though those would be hard to ship shipping. A balustrade at that time seems weird so we send them a loot instead l.. Ut I would ship a balustrade with Casey Pilgrim. I'm like in the package. No you guys are just having a relationship to go with an inanimate object that people do that Fine Casey case it is almost twenty twenty after all less people be judgmental but back to Before the mid eighteen hundreds I would need to find a corier of physical person. Listen or crew. Now say get this loot to the duke and then the courier would say okay. We're GONNA go to the closest village near you know the Dukes of the Duke's Palace fortress or whatever and then instead of taking it to a specific address the corier would probably just drop it off and whatever the common area of town was and mind you zero protection for you as the sender to the recipient or to the gain guaranteed safety of the goods being transported or the you know the message or whatever this is this is an advance of the idea of shipping larger things we will come to version As a thing called parcel post but that comes right. Yeah IT'S A. It's a huge trust fall right because the courier could literally early disappear you would never see your loot Again and your loot will become the quarriers loot l.. Oh how funny is that. We've kind of come full circle to that. Now where where we put all of our trust in this Ride share and just kind of like sharing economy where we don't really need guarantees so much as long as they had the passed the test to get on the APP then we trust them. We just aren't really that concerned. It's just kind of interesting. It's a little bit of a full circle. You got stuff like task rabbit where people pick up stuff and do it for you whereas fifty or you know whatever all of those Absurdly named Services but it's true. Ben That is very definition of ad hoc. You would hire these individuals schedules. You might get your stuff you might not and it became you know. There was a gap that needed to be filled and that specifically happened during the California gold rush in the eighteen sixties. Win A lot of folks. Were settling going West young young men and women And they really wanted to it was. It was a time of technological boom the idea of the telegraph and you know being able to get things much more quickly and much more quickly. We're talking about you know. Weeks as opposed post two months. But that's still looks great. In comparison it does and And you're right. There's this there's this what Malcolm glad well would call a tipping points in the eighteen sixties and it coincides with the California gold rush part of it goes back to the geographical fact that the United States is huge. It's massive. It's very very wide exactly and those ad hoc methods of shipping and receiving might have worked in a more regional setup. Where you you didn't have to travel as far but once you start going from CD shining see that becomes completely Just untenable And by the way we're we're getting a lot of this chronology From a wonderful article from Atlas Obscure called from Pony Express to Amazon drone the strange history of delivering packages just by Dan Nossa wits. That's right and in this shipping free in this gap this area of opportunity. We see two incredible players emerge one is called the pony express the other is called Wells Fargo and the Pony Express had a real missed opportunity by not adopting shopped the tagline. Let those ponies run. That's the Scott Benjamin Benjamin close to the lifetime. Let those plenty run a ride. I think he's run. I think it's run okay. Let him loose. Where can you pick up both ice cream? And Ice Skates Electric toothbrushes and Electric Guitar AMPs at Atwal Greens. That's because now you can pick up your fedex packages right where you shop this holiday. Fedex is helping you take more control of your deliveries just in your packages is to affects pickup location at walgreens and don't worry about being home to receive them with over eight thousand locations across the country you could find one convenient for you visit Fedex Dot Com mhm slash holiday guide to learn more suit. The Pony Express is what it sounds like they were a Letter Transporting Cavalry. They would jump on these horses and they would deliver mail and newspapers and important Gordon messages through a system like a relay race of different mounted riders. So of course you would say well. It's ridiculous that I would write. Write a letter in New York and then handed to some guy in a horse and he would ride across the country he wouldn't he would ride a certain distance he would link up with someone else and they would ride along. Yeah and what would have taken twenty five days by stage coach Or perhaps many many months on a on a sea voyage The Pony Express could get it done in about ten days from East Coast to west coast And they operated between The Upper East between Missouri and California Cornea. But they didn't operate that long. It might surprise some people because the pony express after it went the way of the Dodo. Due to the Telegraph the Pony Express was very very romanticized in the American Zeitgeist but it was only in operation from April third eighteen sixty to October eighteen. Sixty one just a little more than a a year but in those eighteen months of operation the pony express changed history changed shipping and it remains an impressive endeavor. Today when you say I absolutely would say one thing that I didn't know about in that time. It operated that very limited time it did not turn a profit and and in fact there was a war between the United States in the Pie. You Tae Indians called the Pyramid Lake War that caused a temporary shutdown of the company and cost them seventy five thousand dollars a princely sum at the time and after that they when they started all the damage had been done and they never received received a government contract which as we know can be very very important for something that requires so much overhead and infrastructure and it is estimated according to some sources including history dot com Article Entitled Ten things. You may not know about the Pony Express by Evan Andrews. was that over. The course of that. Very brief history of the company it may have lost Around two hundred thousand dollars Just a couple of little quick facts from from that article as well I thought it was interesting. The riders you think of Pony Express. Riders is being like grizzled kind of cowboy types. But they actually were very slight fellows weighing between one hundred nine hundred twenty five pounds much more like a jockey and that's because of weight restrictions they wanted to keep them as light as possible also they could increase productivity in terms of like the quick quicker turnaround times and this is my favorite one as they received a salary of between one hundred two hundred and fifty dollars a month. This is a big deal the time and they were asked to submit themselves to reading this loyalty oath which says I hereby swear before for the great and living God the during my engagement and while an employee of Russell Majors in doubt is the the the the partners in the endeavor. This was a private company. Exactly exactly I will under no circumstances use profane language that I will drink no intoxicating liquors. That will not quarrel or fight with any other employee of the firm arm and then in every respect I will conduct myself. Honestly be faithful to my duties and so direct all my acts as to win the confidence of my employers. So help me God ought I want to add to that excerpt with a fascinating classified advertisement. This is an alleged advertisement wanted young young skinny. wiry fellows not over eighteen must be expert riders willing to Risk Death Daily orphans preferred. No yes. Orphan's prefer yeah. That's I mean 'cause that's enticing when you think about the age Oh you're trying to get to like I'm gonNA live dangerously. No and it's like you know you better not not have anybody who's GonNa miss you because you might get an Arrow through the throat or something. I don't know if it isn't a number of ways you could have died on this treacherous journeys because the West you know the the areas between that frontier very treacherous in terms of terrain in terms of potential ways of just falling to your death as any number of ways you could die. That's right in Oregon trail taught me anything. It's that anytime you travel with a group of six or more people. In that time one of you is going to get dysentery. One of you is going to break a leg and You know you might lose some oxen but not break a leg and like doing well and you know high school musical. No no like like a compound fracture bone sticking out and stuff. You guys remember Oregon trail. Did you play it where you fans. Oh yeah totally remember Fording the river Dying of dysentery. Gary stuff yeah I actually have a card game version of it. That came out pretty recently. That's quite a lot of fun. I recommend that if you if you haven't seen that should the update the diseases. No you know it was literally just a card. Game version of Oregon trail has a neat mechanic. The way you play it I re- I really cool check. We should have a breed into the next office game night. Sounds like a plan. If you want to participate in the Pony Express. There's kind of a way can do it today. You can follow followed their footsteps or should I say hoof prints by visiting the Pony Express national historic trail. It goes through a ton of different Lan Dan jurisdictions it has several sites that are open to public visitation. There are a couple of places where they've got automobile access. It's it's a piece of living history that's worth it and it is indeed history. The Pony Express is no more because in while was only in operation for that eighteen month period period in eighteen. Sixty six The owner of the time sold the assets for Pony Express to Outfit named Wells Fargo and he sold it for one point five million dollars in eighteen sixty six. She's the ways I know that's a ton right and Wells Fargo. You might be saying or you probably said earlier in the episode you said Wells Fargo Holy Moly stars and Garters. Isn't that a bank. Well Yeah Yeah now. Yeah but you may have seen their conic logo which is a horse drawn. stagecoach With the what do you call it. A captain pilot rains men. What do you call a driver? Drivers the driver boom ago. Do little the horses one hundred percent that guy and that is because while the pony express largely was known for delivering letters Wells Fargo Kind of had the market cornered on delivering larger sure things would packages coachman. I bet you as a coach Coachman I think he can do driver as well but much more appropriate. I love that and before are they made their real money in banking wells. Fargo was absolutely the end. All be all of package delivery as you can tell by by this Very very absurdly catchy little ditty I warn you in advance from the nineteen sixty two film version of the nineteen fifty seven Broadway musical musical. The music man by Meredith Willson have a listen the West Fargo wagon down. The street will be hold. The Wells Fargo Wagon is calm down the street. I wish I wish I knew what let it could be books on. Great mad now. ZAC Montgomery works across a bath. Tub and across cut saw They were there was shipping all kinds of stuff. That's right and it was literally all kinds of stuff. Because the folks teamed up there on the East Coast The New York to create wells Fargo wanted to dominate shipping across the contiguous United States and beyond. They wanted a monopoly. There were a bunch of east coast shipping concerns at the time but wells Fargo is different. It was the creation or the The result of a supergroup team up between Three Different People Henry Wells William G Fargo. Those are the names we know and then another one you may not have heard of a guy named John Butterfield on their own. These dudes each had a shipping company but The when they join enforces nineteen fifty. They created something. This is a trick question. What do you think they created way to not wells? Fargo right that Iraqi I'm thinking some other legacy brands. Let's see they called. They called the package shipping industry. The time the express industry mystery wait a minute and these activities were taking place in America. Let's see I like where we're going with this United Express American Eagle Goal State Express Package Postal Eagle America on Canada. Mail in a hurry. Okay I like all of those and those did not make it out of the Pitch meeting that ultimately settled on You guessed it maybe American Express. Yes I hope. We hope we left enough bread crumbs there and this is probably probably obvious to everyone. But I think it's so interesting how the biggest banks and credit card companies always got their start like in the gold rush and like you know occupying hang some niche and then just kind of like ballooning from there and now we have our you know our wells Fargo's in our you know big banks of the world which which are giant right. Hey ridiculous historians Ben here. The easiest place to find holiday gifts for everyone on my list is his online and now getting all the packages I orders easier to. That's thanks to Fedex. I don't have to worry about being home to receive a package because because I can take more control of where they're delivered. I simply send my fedex packages to the nearest pickup location in my neighborhood and picked them up from there. It's so convenient convenient with over thirteen thousand locations across the country. You can pick up your fedex packages near you to visit FEDEX DOT com slash holiday guide to learn learn more so these guys join forces. They make American Express Festival or two years. American Express's breasts is primarily an east coast operation. But they want to. They want to get in on the growing west coast market released some members of American Express. Do you see Henry Wells. And William Fargo or gassed about it. They're super excited. But the Board of American Express's he's like well. Why don't we do this? California thing we we got a pretty nice operation here on the east coast and ain't broke. Don't fix it Fargo And they he said well you know they. They started their own company. They kind of they took what they learn from the American Express operation and he just moved it to the West Coast and they changed the name and again early on they. Their biggest service was Delivery of valuable goods You know jewels and gold and then eventually kind of more you know homegoods that That folks that actually so you had a little money to spend from like catalogue ship shipments and stuff like that could spell a straits. All of that stuff. Yeah And they were. We're very clever in their marketing and Did a good job of endearing themselves to the news media by including free newspapers along with any packages that you would ship through their Their service and this is great because everybody enjoys being plugged in getting the latest news news and we have to remember. This is before television. This is a time in an age where information is a little tougher to come by so getting a free newspapers super great value. Add things. Get a little weird. When the company starts directly delivering gold as well right that's where it becomes a little bit more than a postage service is true? And that you know we'll we'll find out in as as we know Based on what we know Wells Fargo has today that became much more of their bread and butter but because they were handling so much of this precious material that was coming out of the gold rush They it made perfect sense to them to set up a situation where they could. You know invest in hold onto people's assets for them and they did such a job and You know did it so quickly. That folks were very the Comfortable with them and then you know that was one of the early days of folks having money that had been formerly destitute and they needed to trust somebody and they trusted wells Fargo so Again a really good point in this atlas obscure article is every new settlement gold mining colony. That was set up. You have yourself saloon and you'd have yourself a wells Fargo. Yep absolutely maybe a church to who knows definitely a wells Fargo and earlier. We had walked through through the strange and inconvenient Rube Goldberg esque shipping system that companies like Wells Fargo would use they would send the steamships team ships down to Panama the horses over the Smith which was a dangerous An time deadly trip and then they would send ships Up the Pacific coast in eighteen. Fifty eight they create the first of what we described his overland delivery service named in a burst of creativity the overland mail company and this is where Wells Fargo really kind have took that shipping to the next level because they started getting a little bit of assistance from Congress in the bidding war began to establish established much more of a nationwide postal system and that company. That offshoot was in the running and won the contract And so the Overland Mail Company and its by now Very experienced owners. Take a step forward forward there. There's still a private company. But now they're very closely working with the government and they are carrying all official mail. We know a little little bit about the original contract. They cracked the deal with uncle. Sam and they said okay. Mail is never going to take longer than twenty five days but despite what it said on paper the reality was much different you know and there was still a lot of wilderness in the West. We're still a lot of intervening variables. So you could. You could trust that overland and Wells Fargo and these kinds of outfits would do their best to get the mail to you at some point which wouldn't really be able to safely predict it all the time eventually butterfield resigns and in Wells Fargo as the company takes over the board of Overland Mail in eighteen sixty and then they buy the company straight out in eighteen sixty six and then everything changed when in eighteen sixty nine the very first transcontinental railroad system came into existence which was a network of various rail lines that were connected Through some very forward thinking individuals that started the central Central Pacific Railroad Company. Yeah and so imagine all the machinations of Wells Fargo of Henry Henry Wells and William Fargo imagine it like a very beautifully constructed palace of cards in a windy room. mm-hmm because as soon as all these regional railroad systems are connected this house of Shipping Cards Wells Fargo is built. Just his through the windows The owners of central Pacific in almost a single stroke render everything wells Fargo has worked on all of its monopolistic. AH ballistic infrastructure outdated if not obsolete right but they were quick to hop on the train That's that's not even a pine that's just I thought it works. Just laziness and Wells Fargo They they knew what the score was and the Central Pacific Railroad Company was actually actually kind of jerking them around a bit like playing a little bit of like a cat batting around. Some sort of you know handknitted mouse toy and they created created an express company themselves and that is when Wells Fargo purchased that company from Central Pacific. So they could get in on unshipped their goods through the railroad system. And that's what got them in the door. Yes yeah. Do you know what I have to be honest here. This is way more fascinating than I thought. It would have been when you know before. I started researching this. What do you think we'll first of? I hope you always feel that you can be honest with me and the listeners listeners. And I think you do. I agree though I was surprised. At how the history of shipping and receiving and mail and packages all things that sound a little dry on the surface. Actually pretty fascinating and there's a lot of adventure in the Pony Express. Who Knew? We're not even halfway done with this. Well we're okay officially. We're halfway done with the story we're going to. We're going to conclude and we hope you tune in for our follow up on the weird weird weird weird history of shipping stuff. In the meantime you can continue the conversation. We want to hear your shipping war stories. Or you're you're strange anecdotes find find us on facebook. You can find us on instagram. You can find us on twitter not just as a show but as individuals in find me exclusively on Instagram at how now no Brown I'm where I get into various adventures and misadventures and you know you can see me hanging out and doing cute stuff with my kid and going to concerts and eating delicious foods and you can enjoy my five areas Global Shenanigans see me get kicked into and out of different places communities and countries on instagram. At Ben Bullen or on twitter at Ben Bullen w thanks as always to super producer. Casey thanks to Alex Williams who composed our theme Christopher Hussy Otas here in spirit has always thanks of course to Gabe lose Jay. Thanks to ease jeffcoat. Thanks to appreciate you appreciate you reluctantly. co-signing me on this part but thanks to Jonathan Strickland Aka the Quizmaster Aka Young Whistles Aka strict. APU would hate that one. Mr Kuester Mr there we go. I like the Ryan. Their sister sister twisted sister the twisted quizzed her. I liked that Yeah okay reluctant. Thanks to to to Jonathan Strickland and and absolute wholehearted From the bottom of my heart. Thanks to Super Producer Casey Program. Did you already say that even if you did a matting another because we just loved the crap out that got And thanks to you Ben. I like you're hat today. Saying thanks so much all I got it in the mail. Oddly enough like Phoenix. Time folks For more podcast from iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. 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Germany deployed fighters against Night Witches - July 31, 1943

This Day in History Class

06:00 min | 1 year ago

Germany deployed fighters against Night Witches - July 31, 1943

"Hey Al so I wanNA talk to you about a new romantic comedy that I'm ridiculously excited about and it's produced by one of my favorites. M- indicating four weddings and a funeral a a new Hulu original series this focuses on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationships and career crisis. I am so excited about watching this. I'm all about good tidings. Thanks ridiculous antics. This is going to be amazing. Relationships are forced and broken political scandals exposed London social life lampooned love affairs ignited in Dallas of course there are four weddings and a funeral cash the premiere of the new Rom Com series four weddings and a funeral July thirty first only on Hulu this day in history class is a production reduction of iheartradio. Welcome to this day in history class where we bring you a new tidbit from history every day. Today is July thirty first twenty nineteen. The Day was July thirty first nineteen forty-three. Germany tried a new tactic against the night. which is the nickname for the female? Soviet aviators of the five eighty eighth night bomber regiment they shot tracers at the planes of the night witches and deployed night fighters killing eight eight Soviet pilots the night which is took their last fight on May fourth nineteen forty five three days before Germany surrendered to the allies in world. War Too before the night which is women had been barred from combat but the Germans were putting a lot of pressure on the Soviet Union Soviet Premier Premier Joseph Stalin issued an order for the creation of three women's Air Force units experienced pilot and navigator Marina Rosca had already already been putting out calls for an interviewing women who wanted to become combat pilots and she had petitioned stolen to create a fighting squadron of all women and the women were selected to be part of the one hundred and twenty second composite air group soon split into the five eighty sixth fighter regiment the five five eighty seventh bomber regiment and the Five Eighty Eighth night bomber regiment they were mostly young women between ages seventeen and twenty six the women went through about six months of training a period that was short compared to the years normally afforded other soldiers major rest. Kaba commanded commanded the five eighty seventh regiment until she was killed in combat in nineteen forty three the five eighty eighth did face challenges and sexism for being women in a male dominated space but a lot of difficulties they faced stemmed from the fact that the military was not prepared for women pilots and did not have adequate resources for instance. They had to wear oversized boots and uniforms handed down from male soldiers and they got old by. Airplanes that had been used as training vehicles and were not intended for combat they did not have parachutes radios and other equipment and they had to make do with rulers maps and compasses and other rudimentary materials though their piloting skills were excellent they struggled to acclimate to combat in the beginning but on June twenty eighth nineteen forty two the five eighty eighth regiment embarked on his first mission to women were killed killed on that first mission to bomb the headquarters of a German division but from there the night which grew more skilled in combat and we're feared by Germans there wouldn't planes to fly at low altitudes because the bombs were so heavy so they only completed missions at night because they were such easy targets two people traveled in each plane a pilot and a navigator they went on several missions each night their nickname night which is came from the fact that the sound of air over there plane wings as they glided reminded Germans of broomsticks because they completed many successful missions they were viewed viewed as heroes by many Soviets but they did have some downs as well on the night between July thirty first and August First Nineteen forty three the Germans shot tracers at the night which is planes tracers are bullets or shells that carry a pyrotechnic charge to mark the flight path and they. Set fire to the canvas and wooden planes four of the night which is planes went down though others managed to evade the Germans night fighters after the night which is flew their last mission in nineteen forty five and the Germans surrendered twenty. Three of them were named heroes of the Soviet Union. I'm Jeff Code and hopefully you know a little more about history today than you did yesterday. If you'd like to learn more about the five eighty eighth listened to the episode of stuff you missed in history class call the night witches and if you're so inclined you can follow us at T. D. H.. The podcast on Instagram facebook and twitter thanks again for listening and we'll see you tomorrow for more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where'd they go right. And how can so you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry. What have you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti listening subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Save time by packing smart

Before Breakfast

07:58 min | 1 year ago

Save time by packing smart

"How do you stay connected. When you live far away from your friends. What's it like when you reunite for big events like birthdays and weddings four weddings and a funeral is a new Hulu original series raise it reimagined the hit nineteen ninety four movie focusing on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationships and career crises political scandals are exposed posed and love affairs are ignited and doused catch the premiere of the new. Rom Com series four weddings and a funeral July thirty first only on Hulu welcome to before breakfast a production of iheartradio good morning. This is Laura welcome to the before breakfast podcast this week. We're talking travel tips and how to be efficient and effective on the road. Today's tip is about how to pack smart which generally means light so you don't waste time while traveling so so in my family. We have a rule that if at all possible we don't check bags now. I know it's not always possible but I do think it's a good goal even if you're traveling for a week or so and even if you're traveling with kids here's my reasoning checking bags means you need to get to the airport earlier and you need to wait on the other side of your trip to retrieve your stuff and that's if your stuff shows up with. It doesn't always particularly if you've got tight connection somewhere. We've all heard horror stories of people checking bags and then their stuff not showing up until well into the trip. If at all there's there's actually a store the unclaimed baggage center in Alabama that sell stuff from lost luggage. The store's ads note that thousands of items arrive in the store every day so ponder that the next time you're thinking of checking bags. When I'm traveling by myself limiting myself to carry on's is straightforward enough? I packed my carry on Duffel bag with my work clothes and my running clothes I try to wear anything bulky on the plane. I take my curling iron but hotels have hairdryers. I packed my toiletries and Ziplock bag even though I have T._S._A.. Pre check because sometimes I fly out of the American Eagle Terminal L. at Philadelphia which doesn't have a pre check lane. I buy travel sized bottles of toothpaste in contact lens solution and all my makeup is either under three ounces or is really liquid hotels have shampoo and conditioner so no need to bring those things I use my purse as my other carry on and put my laptop phone sunglasses wallet and Reading Material and there I recognize that I'm a relatively small person but I've seen larger people pack for a week and similarly sized carry on's my husband can pack enough business closed for a week in his leather Duffel bag or small role aboard so he doesn't check bags for business trips either at this point. The only reason we check bags is if we're doing something requiring wiring specialized equipment like skiing. Although I would note that the last time we packed to ski as a family our luggage got lost and we wound up getting a knock on our hotel room door at two A._M.. When it was delivered anyway I think a lot of people assume that when you're traveling with your family you have to check bags new half to pack a lot but with some foresight right in practice I found that this is not always the case? I packed for myself in three children for a week in the U._k.. In to carry on's might Duffel bag and one small role aboard and then my purse and a small backpack for each child the kids wore their jackets to travel and those were the bulky est items. We didn't run out of stuff. The kids reward closed on the plane home but they wore jeans once before that and that's about it what this required was really thinking through what we'd need and what we wouldn't we looked at the weather carefully. We brought Gone and what they will wear each day they just bring the clothes they like and figure they'll make wardrobe decisions as they go. This can waste tons of space. The kids just needed one pair of shoes each they could bring special small stuffed animal but not the whole Menagerie. We didn't indulge in fantasies about what we'd need. If for some unreason we were invited to dine somewhere fancy unlikely with my kids we'd go get new clothes. It probably wasn't worth packing for events that had about eight zero percent chance what's happening but it was great being able to carry on luggage on buses and trains just fine and being able to carry it into our hotel rooms without feeling like we were unduly burdened. Now I recognize of course very small children require a few more items such as diapers or bottles if you're using those however we've also found that many places around the world will sell baby products if you happen to run out unless you're going to the wilderness you can usually get things so for instance when we're going on a beach vacation will bring multiple trial. L. sized bottles of Sunscreen to get under the T._S._A.. Limit and then by more at the beach when we start running low rental car companies will rent booster seats for kids who need them them or I actually managed to squeeze one in a carry on duffle once like I said I get into this packing thing with time management. There's a truism that work expands hands to fill the available space likewise. I think this is true of physical space as well. If you tell yourself that you're only going to bring a small bag. You'll make it work. If you decide you can check multiple bags will you'll probably fill them as well and then wind up dragging them around the whole trip if they show up rather than ending up at that lost luggage store in Alabama I know not everyone agrees with me. I mean I've written about this in the past and people have told me that they like their creature comforts and for them having a whole bottle of their own shampoo along for the ride mixed travel less daunting as with much of life you do In lighter keeps the focus of travel where it should be on experiences not things you need enough stuff that it doesn't hinder the experience chance but we probably need a lot less stuff than we think we do. Do you pack light. I'd love to hear about it. You can let me know at before for breakfast podcast at Iheartmedia. Dot Com in the meantime. This is Laura. Thanks for listening and here's to making the most of our time hey everybody I'd love to hear from you. You can send me your tips your questions or anything anything else just connect with me on twitter facebook and Instagram at before breakfast pot. That's be the number four then breakfast breakfast p o d you can also shoot me an email at before breakfast. PODCASTS AT IHEARTMEDIA DOT COM that before breakfast is spelled out with all the letters. Thanks so much I look forward to staying in touch before. Breakfast is a production one of iheartradio for more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows what do tender Ben and Jerry's and Wells Wells Fargo have in common their all conic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where did they go right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet on your kids like Ben and Jerry all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Bobby Fails At Talking To A Girl + Raymundo Posts Cryptic Message on Twitter + Bobby and Amy Argue on the Ex-Wife Wedding Mailbag Question

The Bobby Bones Show

2:01:07 hr | 1 year ago

Bobby Fails At Talking To A Girl + Raymundo Posts Cryptic Message on Twitter + Bobby and Amy Argue on the Ex-Wife Wedding Mailbag Question

"What do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where'd they right. And how can you you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home home Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre affi listening subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts outcasts bobby bones post show pre show I was looking at Raymundo and Raimondo and I work communicating Morgan number two sometimes starts communicating back to me when I'm not talking to her and I'm like we got our whole communication law because she is right in the eyesight of Raymundo and remote in our like talking to the glass and Morgan number two jump smells like yeah I think so too. What does she even talking about. It's a weird thing here. <hes> these is so close together. Morgan feels like you're always looking at me and now that's fine. I can also look at her all the time it she'll just looking at Ray. I just WANNA stare stare at her yeah. It'd be nothing <hes> what's up everybody. We just finished Thursday show. <hes> tomorrow is going to be good though if you listen to tomorrow just more will be tomorrow so hopefully you'll check that out. I I'll say we should start with the target story and Amy's kids <hes> and I was watching watching your instagram story last night and your son farted so loud on your instagram story right on your phone. He's really into doing that yesterday now. Is that just a boy thing. You think it's hilarious. I don't know did you. Yes I mean I mean. My daughter gets a little bit annoyed by now but she'll laugh with him but does she do it <hes> yeah but she just kind of owns. It doesn't make a big deal about it like he does it and I'll just be like oh my stomach and then he when we're in public public now he were target going down the aisle and he'll do it and then people will be shopping on the same aisle and now he just looks at them. He's like sorry sorry that my mom. It's awesome like it's not me so then I sound like I'm the thirty eight year old long like being like it wasn't me and then the people are like. Ok sure you know so. What do you do to stop a kid from farting. I mean well. We've it's gotten to the point where like it's one of those things where sometimes even though it is fun. We don't want to be party poopers <music> but he has to like leave the room and go to the bathroom and shut the door and do it and then he can come back out. I know I know because but then Dan I don't really so uptight about it because it does make him laugh so hard that I don't want to always make him like excuse himself go to the bathroom. Come back I was. I'm not a big farther like not not for attention right. I don't even think it's that funny but during the minority I know but that being said I was an uber yesterday and just forget. It's not my car sometimes and so I'm back and I'm at the back room back corner. That's the name of the new Eddie Right back where that corner and the I don't want to Uber Down because they want to drive down to possibly get a parking spot so I call Uber and picks me up and get in and I just sit back and the guy has turned on some them to Nineties playlist and is counting crows and I'm just like man this is cool loud and it looks back and you can't just act like it was nothing and I remember thinking to myself itself. Why would I do that. I feel like it's my car. I it's not but I just had that feeling like all right. Let me just like nobody nineties. playlists made you feel also comfortable. The the was funny and I did it and if you don't act like it's a big deal. Nobody cares right. I was just like Yep and he's in songs one nine to another and I'm like man. This is my jams. It looks back at me. He goes the nineties. Were good to me man. You're like what does that mean. I didn't yeah no it imagine the morning follow up because I put on my uber APP like how much talking to you want and I always put little. I'll take a little by trying to go into a docu series. The Big Talker and options wants scroll to the most mighty. We look and see what the options for. The most talking talks a lot like good. Oh at a massage once they gave me that option and one of the options was talk your face off like nope like that. The talk a lot about describing you talk. You're facing now the Mike when you get that. Will you read it on the screen for me. <hes> have all this stuff on my screen here to talk about that. We didn't get to today on the show and some things that like we didn't talk about the farting thing because I didn't want to put it out on the I mean people could could be eating breakfast and yeah. The kids would've loved it. We'll hit it occasionally but right but the main point is. I need to get him to stop like outing saying it's. It's me in public when it's not that's pretty funny. That's pretty awesome actually going. I had mentioned but I'll kind of share this because some people wonder what what's happened in the Morgan number one. She now works over with my management team and yesterday we sat in a room. We had you text me about this yesterday to like. How Did you vision meeting go. I'm there's mostly about touring and three and stuff like that that kind of weighing doing T._v. Shows all the stuff we're just it's kind of kind of getting offers to do things now and so it was the first time that she had been in a meeting instead of she'll be good kind of owning it a little bit so <hes> worked with her yesterday. We're still interviewing. I think they may have called people and told them they didn't make the shortlist because that's all Mike Signs Post. He sent his resume resume. The joke is I guess that'd make short list. I got the call. Oh you didn't and he didn't make sure this never never produced a radio show right. He applied as a joke yeah. He's in a really really long resume. That's that's amazing and it was like three quarters. Israel resume funny stuff to God and he put me as a reference to get to me and it was like references. He put me as a reference. He's funny <hes> yeah so he do. You have my number if you saw the same phone number is shit see if he's available. It's a teacher sure. I don't know if you can answer the phone. I'd put him on the PO. Show pre show. He's a professor is a professor <hes> which is crazy. I'm more than a teacher. Yes I think so. It's a college college teacher right. Do you need more schooling for that. I don't think so okay. I think it's going to be a masters for the most part to be a college teacher the teacher he's an educator educator educate. Probably the universal were by Professor College. I think you could even call. Some people. Professors in high school like people have been there for a long time. I don't know maybe you should learn. Maybe he knows the difference. Mike signs well. Get on <hes> also get him on and if you can answer let me know Raimondo but he didn't get a call so we have have you know five or six people that we're talking to to bring him in <hes> someone's asking what we don't promote somebody here internally. We don't have anyone that is qualified to do it into. I mean this is like a hundred and fifty radio stations dealing dealing with sales. It's dealing with creative. It's the night show. It's it's a lot internally. You mean someone like us. Yeah one of us we. We don't have one someone yeah you want a job. No you're not qualified. No no no. I'm not qualified for that. <hes> you could do it eventually not hungered for bringing the people who have executive executive produced talking to other shows or T._v. They've mold seen oversee multiple T._V. Shows kind of a multi thing is the issue so doing that quiet preferred happy to chat or no preference. What was the most happy to chat chat. That's not not bad. That's not overwhelming. Talk your face off like <hes> have a note here. I copy and paste from Eddie. Eddie sent me a note that said his dad loves the livestream yeah but he has a problem with this he doesn't he was. I guess he was just trying to be nice and offer some <hes> little advice but he said it's great looks awesome but man there too many commercial breaks in like that. That's how you know this how it works like we have commercials so we have commercial breaks but we're working on and even song breaks yes. He just said there's I mean there's a lot of breaks. Some people think when we play a song it's like a commercial to them because they just want to talk the whole time right there like why are you going away for break. I'm like that's Luke. Comb break yeah yeah. That's me playing a song. Mike Sciences on Serious Mike Signs. Hey man what's up dude. Hey you're on the post. Show pre show ooh favorite just so you know you're being you're on right now so a couple of questions one. I saw you post on twitter that you didn't make the short list for the executive producer job. Uh how well you said you invited the shortlist to hang out with. You and I think with these okay got it you. You didn't get a call saying you didn't make it like a thank you know. I didn't know that would be the professional thing to tell me no. I don't know what they're doing. Wow I'm not talking to them. They may have talked told everyone no. I didn't get anything also the professional thing I mean. You applied for a job kind of as a joke yeah yeah. That was that's the whole funny. Part is is probably didn't even take my application seriously I wrote some of the they kind of did and they sent it to me and they were like this guy serious. We can't tell if he's serious and I was like no. No that's my friend. He's being an idiot but were you being serious. No no not at all down. He loves says Jones debating. If you're a professor or a teacher <hes> yes the answer is that the question is yes. I'm both considered the same thing but why some people say professor and some people say teacher <hes> some people <hes> like to glorify it more than than a teacher <hes> <hes> but usually at the university level they call it like an assistant professor associate professor just a better title but we all do the same thing well t- to me and what is your job. <hes> I currently teach public speaking to incoming freshmen and I also work in the Student Success Center and what do they they call you. They call me an assistant director of student success teachers. Call you the kids the students oh they call it. I tell them to call me Mike. He's that guy. He charges backwards. Let me tell you guys flips the chair. Oh you just call me my. I think he's coming my yeah. That's me you have any tips for us. As public speakers like since you teach it listen to the show you know we're actually great public speakers <hes> because the tip is supposed to be found out no one's listening to you when you're speaking <hes> so so the people tend to over over think what they're doing when they're up on stage and then really no one's listening no one cares. No one's going to think about it after you wait. No one's listening right now. It was like saying things things that no-one nervous because no one's listening to this show anyway my favorite might sign story right or science professor to have public speaking. I'm idiots feel Wichita Idiots. It was one of the first was <hes> <hes> so okay. This is a good story. Vo Eddie and I are back. It's before we go on stage and we have merch items uh-huh and we're like hey mike signs. Go Up and tell everybody that we're selling merge and you know that it's connected to charity or something I don't know where we told them to do and he's the public speaker and he walks up on stage because we didn't go up before we go on because we like to bring up like they are right so mike walks up and takes shirt hurt and it's like they got much and walks out the worst. I've ever seen in my life not even close okay okay. Give me your version of the story so I was going to go up there. I'm in my head planning okay. Here's what I'm GonNa say Blah Blah and then not I grab the MIC and goes up there with me and does does her not a thing and I'm like Oh yeah we got merged and then that was it so so you're version true but you left out the part where it not just took over the the whole stage and I was like Oh that wasn't what I plan but but those that can't do teach that's that's my philosophy bombed we made funding for until now and he left he left out the part where you almost slipped on the curtain and almost Ville cow down okay. I'm not I'm I'm not the most graceful human starring Mike Signs Professor Signs. Mike Mike who teaches public speaking to freshman at the University of North Texas now University of Texas at Dallas. Did they change their name. No no we you. The system has a bunch of schools Arlington Antonio. It's all that and you. What's your incident at Mike. SIGN SAYS SCIENTISTS SA E in Z. It's actually pretty funny. Follow Mike signed says S._A. Mike I got a question like do you have a school philosophy where you're not allowed to date students because you're in the college students. It's about I mean yeah. It's not just a school like personal philosophy. It's also like a like a school rule that you shouldn't shouldn't or can't yeah but what if your names but if you just might have backwards back with chair back until now I mean at backwards Mike. Two hundred share also has a fiance that we're getting married in November the raw professor gellar. Let's just say there's a backward coaching backward mats and he teaches public speaking yeah. He's not allowed to the data student right. Oh what a class Oh. That's a different story. Professor Galley Geller Gray Line area didn't Kelly capacities professor dater say yes yes yes he's now. He's now in jail. My are you teaching class right now. Everyone's watching him in class. He's on the phone rang lecture so if I can get back to you know dumber at summer school we don't we don't do anything in the summer so very children relaxed one of the thing. Mike scientists the guys. Having a wedding in November that I'm still supposed to go to Ed is not going correct. I got I got a bone about that. One go ahead. You got a bone to pick. You're at go ahead well. Everyone is invited most of the show friends and most of you guys and that and everyone is real honest you know lunch that Mexico's not anything. That's how you ain't my thing. I don't like going listen more my thing. I'm scared to death truthfully. I got a kid. It's hard to range range because it's hard no and and ray the same thing thanks bye bye. GonNa Pass. I don't like that much okay Michael and then <hes> and then Eddie's like Oh man I love to be there but you know we have a new family situation and getting that uh-huh and then like a week later I in Puerto Rico on a vacation. I was like okay. It wasn't really about that. It's just he didn't WanNa go to my wedding and Mexico. I get it it's fine. I shouldn't have pictures victors all that the whole family thing I mean that's big yeah we can't. It's hard if I'm babysitters. We gotta you know that we need a babysitter. We have to get fingerprinted and background. Check and everything not just like grandma can't come watch the kids but you have a long long time to figure all that out. Yes and I don't have a passport to find that out. You should get a passport anyway right now and you still have an came in the mail sign. You should get one anyway in case Eddie eventually. We're going Google play in another country. You'RE NOT GONNA be able to go international yeah raging. We're on in Canada the U._K. Literally they may not happen this year but I may go up to Canada and do do some stuff like they're Canadian musical. If not this year maybe next year. You don't think we would go play there. You gotta get that passport okay or I'll just take a different Hispanic Fella. I do like midland that one time one of the guys was sick and they just and they did the right thing they. They don't want to cancel a whole show and they wear these costumes. They put someone someone that look like him and they played their part. I'll just let someone like you. You just kept you wouldn't do that to me. Yeah country you. Buddy Jackson from the road crew all right anything you'd like to say before we wrap it up here now. Post show pre shows fantastic and I texted in earlier saying it was the best thing since sliced cheese so I appreciate it. Mike signed. Send me a note going. You know I think about the polls. Show pre show. I was like what's sad he goes. It's different has a different vibe because you don't really know what's going on. I'm like I don't unbelieving planned. I just keep some notes from the show that we didn't get to but he goes kind of feels like showtime after dark and I'm like I don't watch it is but to me it's not that sounds like dirty yeah. It's like you're stuck. You're watching something. You're not supposed to be watching so it's Kinda cool in a non creepy way and the non okay Eddie had said in the past. Mike signs that Poli was overrated. Gosh you're ago. You know I've been with that when he's hatch I treport way we have a long story about that and Water Burger in and I know secretly he loves it those. I hold it against well today. They're bringing us. Launchers got the note from my screen that you police here honestly to convince Eddie that they're not overrated. Correct so okay is there. Is there a place setting for me because I will. I will fly up there right now that that's like like if you follow Mike on like twitter or instagram like most of the posts about to pull or Burrito all all right Mike Mike signs are guys thinking what. What are you guys like about like. Here's the thing like fresh yeah yeah. It's good meat non G._M._O. The avocados good also the fact that it's an expensive compared to en- quick hormone free meats. That's my nickname in college too. I'm not sure there's a hormone-free meat bones. You like how it tastes. Yes tastes amazing amazing all the Salsas when they asked me which saucer you WanNa like. Are you getting all twenty one not one and you got to put the grilled veggies on their UH. I don't like to go budget. Corn Sauces. Woo brought that with them well. We're GONNA rock episode of Amy's four things podcast. <hes> let me play one clip of this what. I don't give me one clip. What is it Holand up right now you are. Let's see scrolling over the page. I got got amy husband loves. He's only an intro. He's not even a thing. Amy Jessica Relationship Tank. That's good. That's one of my guests. Just my husband doesn't liked botox. Yeah He. That's in the intro because we end up talking about the taxes the thing you're GonNa get out of the whole deal here. If you play the boat talks clip. I'm you just go. I kind of liked the husband love tank because I think he says he wants to date more or something like that. Hey let's this is just an intro like he's also mind. You'll loved all right. Let's here's Amy's husband on the new pike. Go ahead. We probably need to work on our love tank. It's just been so busy. Oh that's what you're talking about earlier today. You're like what are you doing now. We're never together other like that's why when I saw you walk by pulled you to do this little intro because I'm like well. Maybe the five minutes that I get to spend with you. I know the date me. Let's go on a date date. Yeah it'd be go. I don't know my wife and I did that once. As long as you get to start making I drove around the block and then I came back knocked on the door was dumb like say hey. We'll talk about that on the show nope soon. We don't want to hear anything else about Jim. Talk about it because it will ruin it for many okay well. It's just gone. Iger my guest. She's the founder of Noonday Collection. She talks about making sure your I love tank is full so that's why been I ended up talking about that all right <hes> rock and roll everybody good sport show today. All right you got -rageous told us he's not going to be on it today. So it's GonNa be me lunchbox and maybe new girl. Oh you know what today is. I get all the metrics for all the shows today all the podcasts the report card day. Okay give it to us. I don't have it yet. God is like getting home and like Oh. Mom's got their work hard all right. I'm GONNA get grounded. I always told my mom cars income today. Sorry now it's e I might just wrote. Oh my screen to save for either tomorrow or Monday Eddie role playing with as much no not right yeah. That's funny though I liked it. Don't say anything else about it though because I want experience it okay. It was win no more talkie. Don't talk about it. Even Raimondo's had poked up. He likes to roll. Oh plan all right good. I gotTA bobby happening today with John. Crist who I feel like y'all is like one big joke off. It's giving them. I really haven't thing with my guests on the podcast. I try not to provide content about me unless they ask I try to I try to highlight them. Keep the shine on them the whole time and if you have a good question you know. I try to limit it because I wouldn't you say that almost all your podcasts and I haven't listened to many of the recent ones but don't you feel everyone always goes back to your the dancing with the stars champion man right every four months yeah and once the show starts. I'm just going to drop that from my arsenal of things to talk about <hes> yeah but I get an awkward everytime they bring it up. It's just like I did like you're a great dancer and they really probably never seen the club. They just not integrate dancer and but yes it goes there a little bit but I like. I'm proud of that win now because the dancing because I figured out the system yeah like I figured out a system to Bin Twenty six seasons and broke it. They have new rules this year because of me in our show and the people voted for me so they're switching up some of the rules because we broke the system and I'm very proud of that because we figured out we broke it. I think it's ridiculous or changing roles and all they really do because why one out of twenty seven and you're going to make an again. I haven't seen they could come back and be like Oh. We're all we're all the same but I do love them there and I hope they bring me back for the premiere and they should call that change. <hes> the bobby bones rule right and then wikipedia <unk> have its own little paragraph in Kapiti and think about that all right we gotta get. I'm tired inch police here all right the end <hes> yeah we'll. I'll go with you guys on Friday. Show here is Thursday show right now. August first bobby bones show what do tinder. Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common. They're all iconic. Businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where'd they go right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids. It's like Ben and Jerry what did y'all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre affi. I'm a former. Tech EXEC turned serial entrepreneur turned T._v. and radio host and over the course of my career I've interacted with interviewed reviewed and reported on thousands of businesses. I've seen bright beginnings that fizzled out and rocky starts that turned into shining stars so join me in my producer new Guy Nick as we we dive into the decisions that led to greatness and the regular people who were able to spin straw into gold bizarre affi we'll have new episodes each week listen and subscribe on on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP wherever you get your podcasts. Your buddy miss the Bob Transmittal of course welcome to Thursday. Show the more studio. Dan Kelsey is on in Oklahoma City. Let's go over and talk to Kelsey. Hey Kelsey. What's happening her body. How are you? I'm pretty good. What's up. All you good well well. I just wanted to let you know that disordered your book and <hes> I'm actually doing a presentation next month on it at work. Wait so you're doing a presentation without reading it. Yes well. I mean I hear you talk about your book every Single Day pretty much in I got me thinking and new motivate me and you're really kind of one of my role models also. I figured it's time to read it. Do you WanNa sing wind beneath your wings to me right now because I would love it. Did I ever know that I'm your or he. I'm just getting a by the way I never bring my book up. Its callers who go. I'm going to do a presentation on your book Klay Kelsey here. Although I'm very proud of my book I it's called a fail until you don't and I gave it to my friend of mine and I was like I never say this read this book and he's like it changed my alive. Well listen <hes> how about this. I will send you a signed copy of that book please. Oh my gosh yes but only if you sing wind wind beneath your wings to me go ahead one verse on like I can't do it. I can fly nego. Hello Andy. He just covered bagging on airbag comes from the different towns. Yes thank you yeah. She's sandbagging on being a good singer. Wow Okay Kelsey. I'm going to send you that and I'm going to give you this to start the show and you called us. I'm GONNA to give you a fifty dollar gift card from cracker barrel cracker barrel celebrating. Their fiftieth anniversary this year so they gave us some gift cards to give to our listeners and you you Kelsey are now being awarded one of those. You look at you trust in me. I appreciate it okay. Stay on the phone. I'm going to drink okay. Thank you all right being a bit facetious. Although I would like for one day just pick up a phone call and someone is saying that to me even if it's you aim even if you call the phone lines all right and pick it up and let's go to the calling from on the studio <hes> Hello Amy Amazing. Let's do on the country music to start the show. 'CAUSE I gotta go today. We got stay in nineteen. Ninety-two Twenty-seven years ago Brooks and Dunn's BOOT scooting Boogie began a four week residents at the number one of the country recharges Ronnie Dunn wrote the Song by himself what made some money off that before it was officially released by Brooks and Dunn. The band asleep at the wheel recorded in one thousand nine hundred ads. They recorded it. Ronnie Dunn wrote it. Here's a clip of asleep at the wheel doing boost Boogie Guillermo. Does Oh God okay benches will switch up their Brockton rashawn February and they told us that they didn't come up with the dance. They started playing the selling clubs and Oklahoma and this this is Ronnie Dunn talking about that. The people kept coming up and asking us. You'll play it again so kind of thought well. Maybe there's something there so we'd sneak into the set late at night down there if you if you implant song or do or play any of the clubs dance then you're out so we had to had to write songs that that kept people moving tarn soul beer not a whole history of the song today in Nineteen Ninety-two Twenty-seven years ago that was your number one song and for four weeks which is a big deal. Here's the bobby on show podcast highlights segment of the day. I'm GonNa talk to Ian and Oklahoma who sit on the phone. Hey Ian what's up the morning you good. I'm great how are you. I'm good when he wants to <hes> man. I can't believe I'm actually talking to you guys. <hes> I was just just calling in to <hes> say how much I appreciate you guys. You guys are awesome. You make my commute from home to work amazing using I. I love your positively. I love everything you're about <hes>. I love the representations for the Little Guy <hes> I I mean. I'm on my way to work right now so so I'm just trying to <hes> I've been trying to get a hold of you for. I don't know how long and I'm actually kind of getting to talk to you. Why so what do you do for a living in <hes> <hes> right now. I'M A volunteer firefighter for Rolling Hills Fire Department and CA- Tusa <hes> do you have a poll. I also that pole you slide down one of those because that'd be awesome. No we don't have one of those. We don't have the cool bill that goes off either. We kinda just get toned owned over the phone. Do you ever like that was not just a hose. Eddie that thing you ever pull it off. The truck like not beer cans down. That's what I do target practice. Oh yeah that thing yeah all the time somebody walking down the street they all do you ever go in and take those <hes> the fire hydrant the Hydra things that take the lid off yeah. Do you ever do that. Yes that sounds fun. Yeah like joke yeah. Well we do that for training. Oh we gotta fill up the trucks and have water on the trucks ready you for the fire. Do you ever look forward to their cars parked by hydrogen buster window and stick your hose through the window awesome to run it through while sitting on the curb. They don't get anything cool like that. We mostly just medicals from our station all right all right. Well listen. That's cool. That's cool to your volunteer. Firefighter minutes awesome making a difference in the world aw I try and appreciate that Nice Nice call all right appreciate Bobbio have good morning. I'm telling you I couldn't think of the word hydrogens join just now back. I was like you know that read. Fire things on the road has water in it. My my brain is not connected man appreciate you having my back over to you gotta do on Sunday which is Thursday three August fourth at eight seven central on A._B._C.'s at three our special the show is hosted by Thomas Kelsey Ballerini. 'em myself special collaborations little nausea billy. Ray Cyrus and Keith Urban Carrie Underwood with Joan Jett and I I believe have a club of Carrie underwood talking about why it's important to see festas aired on A._B._C. Seem a music festival is so much fun and they every year they do a Ed TV special which is really cool. You know we kind of get to give the rest of the world that didn't get to come to the music fest a little taste of what it's like and hopefully they'll see it and WANNA come next year but seeming music festival so much fun. It's there's no no others honoured music. Does what country music does for its fans like this which is is so cool yes so please watch because if you don't watch they may just cancel country music periods listeners but yeah they may just shut down music all music too so. I watched that on A._B._C. That'd be cool. I have a mailbag here. Let's open up the mail bag Raymundo mailbag. Thank you by the way our new mailbag addresses. This is open as of yesterday Morgan number to set up. What does that email address. It's mailbag at bobby bones dot com tough to remember your brains as messed up like mine. It's hydrant at mailbag. Bobby bones dot com got it. Here's the MAILBAG. The letter says hey bobby so my ex wife and I have a thirteen year old son. We got divorced when he was three after we figured out that it just wasn't gonNA work. Our son lives with her since I worked traveling around but always pick them up when I'm mm around. Our contact is very minimal meaning me and my ex wife. We really only talk to each other when something related to our sun comes up however she met someone about five years ago. They don't know he's a nice dude. My son likes them. They're engaged and they're gonNA marry this fall a month or so ago. Our Son came up to me and said hey mom and her fiance of mail. That invites invites but thing is. I never got one of those invites. Now this bother me because my son asked me to be there. I took event. I took offense. Should I go to the wedding to be with with my son even though it seems like they don't really want me there from chase and that's in the mail bag. This is so much more than what we had. No no it's not I don't know the answer is easy their wedding. They don't want you the wedding you don't go to their wedding. Your son's not getting married. You're not gonna can go do things without you just because he wants you there you don't. You're not married to her anymore. I'm not like a blanket no but you don't just show up like he needs to probably communicate with her. Has No business going to this wedding if they didn't invite him he doesn't go. He can talk to her like hey. Our Son came to me and he would like for me to be there like I. I don't have an issue being there. Do you think I think that it's fine if I come in. If she says no then you don't go and if she says okay if our son if 'cause it's weird for the sign like a son of this sounds wedding still okay but I'm just saying like you still shoot. I just as someone who you know I was. I my I I went to my dad's wedding after my parents got divorced when he got remarried and my mom wasn't invited but I think if I was younger than then I was like I was in high school at that point like I would have wanted my mom to be there and maybe she could've come in just helped comfort me because it's a it depending on how everything went down. It's it's it can be hard for kids. If it's one percent weird for this married couple to have an ex- there you don't do it. It's their wedding. No I agree. I end he could ask her kids. PLUS FALSE WO- exactly I don't even ask you don't even ask obviously don't want them there. They don't have any contact. He's not really in her life and the kids thirteen. He's not six when I was thirteen. I was already paying insurance but you you had to mature so much. Faster already has a hard a 4. When I was thirteen saving for retirement yeah what is your final answer I finally answer is talked to the mom. WHO's getting married and see if it's cool if you come if not you don't go but talk to her about it for the sake of the Sun because he asked you? If you WANNA have a conversation you say hey I know wasn't invited. I'm not gonNA come. You should talk to our sun and say I the budget add. Here's why you're all right. Champ de doesn't need to go no business where we can be. This is America. We can have different abuses doesn't sound like okay. I'm giving my opinion and you're still twisting. It and I'll give you a different answer. Your answer is dull camera in today's political candidates. Don't let me do let me talk to Isaiah. Is You're in Arkansas. What do you want to say about this yeah I. I just wanted to say that. Bobby is one hundred percent correct that he can absolutely not go to this. What do you think about him having a conversation with the mom Tom I don't really think it's any of his business besides to be completely fair. I don't think I think people to put too much stock in weddings. The weddings not really as important Horton marriage significance of a wedding with the kid gets thirteen team kid. Eh Team baby always team. Thank you now. We have a naming agreer. I WANNA make sure to get one on fair and balanced Anne. You're on the show. Hi Thank you. What would you like to say any please and he doesn't. She changed her mind. Their anti in Louisiana go ahead any. I guess we'd like to say I agree with amy on the situation. I was in a similar situation with my husband and I think that they should talk to the wife and make sure it's okay with her or even. Though the child is thirteen years old he wants his father to be there. <hes> there's no reason as dad should go to this wedding. Maybe have nothing to do with it. Maybe having that conversation could open up an opportunity for everybody to have a healthier relationship and for the sake of the sun to have his parents actually have a relationship would be great. I'm all for conversation conversation. The conversation should be hey. Ole Trent Sad. I can't come to the wedding. We just talked to him. Tell him it's okay that I'm not coming like have that conversation and then welcome because he's been bad. That's questioning them at any. Are you okay any are you okay. Are you OK Annie all right. Thank you Anne thank by the way thanks for those that we didn't know what that was and you know you okay. Okay okay any other Elissa in Louisiana. Let's go one more call hi Elissa. You're on the Air Lisa. Hi what's happening. Wow it's so great to talk to. You guys thank you. We appreciate talking to you. Do you WANNA say <hes>. I appreciate Ya'll <hes>. I just wanted to make a comment with the wedding situation. <hes> I mean it's completely understandable with you know they don't want the you know the dad to go but <hes> and my situation you know me and my daughter's father. We're both separated rated. We're both remarried and we attended each other's wedding no problem yeah see but that's because we allow each other to understandable. We don't even know maybe somebody cheated. In this release. It's thirteen year. Old Boy could just have a dream for his parents to just get along no just tap relationship and maybe this could be a start well listen. I think we we can come to the conclusion that I'm right right everyone. Hey thank you Elissa. Appreciate your good to talk to you guys to talk to you. I'm getting a lot of texts here and everybody agrees with me yeah. They don't know where you're saying's valid. I don't agree with you. I'm just kind of trying to think of the kid if using a healthy marriage and knows a lot about marriage and kids now I don't think you have to none of us. have no kids what the heck do. I even know. It doesn't expert at all. You don't gotTa Adam Make Hamburgers to know a good Hamburg. That's right right just eat them is he. Bobby bowl show over to Raymundo with the news here on Thursday morning Komo News Ninety two. The Democratic debate was last night. Highlights are online in Minneapolis. We're now finding out that a Delta pilot age thirty seven was removed from a plane cleaning arrested after he boarded a plane drunk. They found a bottle of alcohol on him as well and finally would stop music. Festival has been cancelled. It was scheduled to take place in a couple of weeks as they said the reason that a series of setbacks bobby bones show when I go over and talk to Joe WanNa new Taw hey joon. How's it going. What's happening not shame I ran a marathon in Salt Lake City and she took first in the women's division and the first two hours that she was running. Thanks for listening to the show wow when she finished first in her vision. Yes you finish first in the women's overall division <hes>. She won a little spend money so that was cool. How fast did she run the marathon. You know she ran it and three hours and fifteen minutes amy when you ran the marathon <hes> what did you run minded then four hours and like some change thirty eight minutes eighty something. I was three thousand six hundred fifty third place. I think think we listen to our show because apparently that's the secret ingredient to winning. This show didn't s then <hes> Joe. What's her name joined. Give her a shot out. Her name is Jamie. I'll visa we we are both <hes> High School Teachers Guira Teisal in Lehi Utah on she coaches cross country. I coach soccer and I'm actually the one that tweeted about. Those custom shoes awhile ago. The toy story shoes know that custom my shoes for like forever serie customized shoes for her anniversary. L. ARE UP. You remember that shortly after you customize for for your dance partner so I thought you got the idea for me. Oh No I have no idea listen. I've told my favorite tweet. I was just talking to me about better earlier today. He talks about you. All all right. John we listen to you every day. Shot you guys I appreciate you bud congrats to you your wife only over to Morgan number two now a little segment that we call food world number-two here we go time for food world num- NUMB- with Morgan Morgan number two so a lot of state fairs are happening right now or about to happen and I want to know if you guys would try any of these weird foods that are at them so these from different states dates. I stayed up. This is Idaho okay. It's got to be potato. Potato dipped in ice cream. Oh I was GONNA say copper but okay go ahead <laughter> well. It is an ice cream potato but it's not an actual potato. It's just vanilla. Ice Cream shaped like a potato roldan cocoa powder and topped with whipped cream. It sounds good. It's just the shape that's weird on that one. That would do that. One yeah all right next up what's North Carolina after Kool aid pickles literally pickle and kool-aid. Chill looks good. That's kind of what we used to have. Piccadilly Piccadilly Snow cones awesome and you don't think they will be but they are. They're amazing are what else and then California. They have deep fried watermelon. It's watermelon. Deep Fried topped with powdered sugar to give it to me. What else what's so weird is when you have. Is there any you're going and I don't know if we do this. One well. There's one from New England and they literally serve fried butter balls. It's butter fried from the state of New England. Yes they got her whereas the state is New England by what's okay. What's the capital of the New England. Do Yeah you got this. I know it's in the northeast. All I know you've been to the state of New England. No no all right the New England New England the New England State Fair Yeah Yeah. It's like a real Boston. Patriots the New England Patriots uh-huh and what what is there is a deep fried butterball yeah so just better. That's deep fried. Not A butterball Turkeys butterball Hutter Fried Alright Morgan number two thank you that's food world from Morgan number two we do we try all those go ahead walls food world with Morgan number two num- now a lot of emails about coal case all the time and usually when I look at a story I can tell him the first five minutes probably happened but this one mm-hmm really strain. I'm Katherine Townsend host of the true crime podcast Helen gone hours asking people what's wrong. What's wrong and we're getting the sheriff's Office James Dan no explanation. Janey Ward was sixteen years old when she died under mysterious circumstances is she was at a party at a cabin in the woods in the small town of Marshall Arkansas story that she fell all my outdoor would be. I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to change ward on September ninth point nine thousand nine hundred nine. Listen to hell and gone. That's H. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your your podcasts play you just vocals and we did nineties into two thousand artists list. You'll know the song you'd have to name. The artist for example. Here is the first one this is either. Remind me AH nickleback okay. That's the example we're ready. Amy lunchbox producer Eddie here we go. You're GONNA play now. I can have all the answers all right and I would just cry. I know all right song number one name. The artists go by it was nice. The party was pumping. I never have hut fellas starting in Callin the responsibility for the whim and need the artist only these are from the recording studio vocals. Amy lunchbox Daddy Yankee Eddie Hammett is the ball two thousand thousand number two here we go and action how Ma already there say ham the sunshine in your head how show on the ground how nothing <music> a mall a mall. I'm in one more time. How Ma <music> already there. Can you name that artists look around Amy Lonestar. Yes yes. Daniel betting filled Eddie wows way off on this land. Keith sweat now Eddie. You couldn't have been more on that. AH named the vocal number not crazy. I'm just a little unwell and no radin now. No you can't tell but stay awhile. Maybe then you'll see a different sodomy craze from the year two thousand two. Who who was that artist yeah. I'm yes. Everything's going on. Well got it. I'm not I know that now don't care because went two different directions or specked it. Somebody was not crazy win. Amy Vassil Leans Vassal famous artists of Asa Lean Lean lunchbox God's amac incorrect Eddie may get this wrong because I went Rob Thomas and not matchbox twenty. It's match that's right. I'm just I had this C._D. How did I miss this or let's do this. One number four named the artist. The song is called Firefly's from the year two thousand nine here we go Louis guys. You'll have to rush polly. It's hard to say I'd rather Thursday wake. Would I write amy Al City correct lunchbox. I'll city direct. Eddie's cafe acuity obtained by yourself. Here's number five Emmys the winner in the game. The Art of the Song's called beautiful girls from two thousand seven. Who's the artist just your way to girl Sean Kingston Winter Better Player winning Music Raimondo. Please again dominated that game. Thank you got one matchbox twenty bone. National Hollywood Morgan number two thirty settles Chris Johnson the details of his next album. It's called real friends and it's going to be here on October eighteenth. There's going to be eleven new songs on the album and he says has he made all of those songs with his actual real friends. Here's good vibes off of it. Mary Morris the subject of the magazine Harper Bazaars Czars I music documentary keith urban and Sheryl Crowe seeing marins praises in the video and you can watch it about bobby bones dot com Brantley. Gilbert has a new song out tomorrow and it's called bad boy. Here's a teaser. He posted on social media also expelled. I'm Morgan number two. It's time for the good news. The the animal shelter in Muncie Indiana is running low on cat litter dog food and the police department heard about it and they said okay from now on if you get a parking ticket you can pay by donating cat litter or dog food to the animal shelter and your ticket is wiped away so if you're going to be visiting Muncie any time soon the ticket ticket don't bother paying the meters just park illegally that way you can help the Animal Shelter Park Dog. Put on your hood and like I'm covered to take the dog food. That'd be a good for them because they got always charge. Take that money and put it somewhere else. You know yeah because that money's got to go somewhere but a good for them. That's awesome there you go. That's what's all about Yup. That was telling me something good show. This story comes us from New York to cool things to have in your alive of swimming pool and a Lamborghini bad ideas to hit the gas instead of the brake and drive your Lamborghini right into the pool as what this twenty six year woman Dan Right in swimming pool when a helpless feeling my Stepdad did that drove his truck right into lake actually to be fair. He pulled it up on a hill. We had to remove the boat trailer from the truck because it wasn't adequate room to park beside each other. The emergency brake wasn't all the way trucks are rolling down the hill and and he's like Oh my goodness runs up beside it and it hits a curb because right in the water and just wrote it down. He talked to us on the show. He just wrote it down because that's fast. The card is trash after that. Is that total <hes> they pull it out as drivable it. They fix it a bit listen. We didn't have money it was. I don't know if it's total but we'd we'd have money for a new truck. I think they gotta go in Oakland for a while. I think I don't know them longtime all right then but that's that's a Lamborghini. You're boneheads story the day your buddy Mr Bobby so we're going to talk to Tony in Virginia. Hey Tony Welcome to the bobby bones show good morning. Hello Hi is this bobby. It is Tony. You're on the air. What do you WANNA say hi. I'll is just kindness in your what typically you are looking for a woman <hes>. What what do you have yeah well. I mean I'm single. Oh and I'm in love with you so down amy. What am I looking for in a woman probably someone that's not arguing with you. That doesn't really know you. Ah Shut down like that. I know just like regular gently but you good thing is he doesn't really know everything about your what you look like you can just slide under the radar. Yarns are from scratch professor love. What am I looking for in a girlfriend interesting. I like someone that has goals. I like someone that's super smart like someone that's funny. I like someone that's physically fit because I have a pretty fit lifestyle anything else. I'm missing here the people who read books what else yeah well goals is on there but like you yeah you kind of have to have your own thing going be busy yourself. I want somebody audie. Who's all about me but not about me right. It's like walk that line. I want somebody like all about me like that's my dude but then be like. I don't even care yeah because I'm so busy over. I look at all these dots on my calendar. He wants somebody with dots on their calendar. I would like to be so independent that it drives me crazy that I'm like come on because that's attractive okay. Well Bobby finds that Hot Martha Stewart. You said we gotta stop going back to the Mar Martha Stewart but you did say that I can own find her physically attractive goals but physically. What are you looking for bones. I don't you physically fit. Would you go blonde. Yes my last question was blowing right in dating blonde hair color good good but you did have a time where it was like pretty obvious. You're going to be with a Brunette with banks to girls. I listen. I'm drawn to Brunettes. I think initially I think because if I can maybe scrape a little bit of this Freud. Throw it off on you. I think as my mom was Brunette. <hes> you know I know strange and people think that we are attracted to people like our mom or dad not not because Eddie you're Hispanic and your wife is super white and blond exact opposite of my wife. Yeah my mom. Maybe it's because your mom. Maybe it's totally opposite didn't want her so any UH anyway it's based on your of what he thinks is that we're attracted to our parents or an unattractive to our parents. He's talking about Sigmund. Yeah we'll see. He said that he yeah it's a it's a difficult thing to navigate with me which one thirty nine it's still single never been married. No engagements no kids. I have no baggage <hes> none yeah you're right. I mean yeah you know you have your own kind of baggage in Mobile Debbie well like I think that there's things in your past that have caused you to be guarded and you're you have never allowed yourself to love someone even though I think that you have you just don't let yourself fully go there. So there's that and then how do I sound now. Tony Yeah thanks wait. Are you still attracted to him. Yes what wait hold on. What are you most most attracted like what you only know bobby from the radio. So why are you in love with him good question. I just like his determination his drive. He's a hard worker seems like and he's just funny thank you and he has a big heart and I have a big yet. It's hard what about his looks. You don't like his looks. I mean yeah thank you Tony. I listen I'm not so if you were to click on seventies dating profile vile and they had goals physically fit. You know I care about people also care about myself. That's the perfect profile. Okay <hes> and I'm single. I mean I'm kind of I'm dating yeah. You've been going on dates and dates that you're not really telling us about yeah up now that there's there's. I know there's a girl or you know. There's a thing a entry level thing really like second level. Mario Brothers okay like do not really in it in it yet but yeah it's kind of like two one two two. Maybe wow so how into it is she ten now. Okay good for two zero so yeah yeah yeah well. Thank you Tony. I'm glad we could bring this up shaking just getting the chance to finally get to talk to you guys. I've tried on multiple times. Thank you very much. We call that I appreciate. That sexy asked her yeah. I was looking at all right. Tony have a nice day bye bye. Bobby bones show. Your son's birthday is next next week. Yes and you're GonNa have the Party Austin and so who's coming to the Party and families some of my friends and their kids so yeah. It should be like a good little mix. He still wants Alexa to come to the party he does. He doesn't know Alexis our real human I mean he thinks she somewhere he doesn't really I understand what she is but yeah. He talks her every day and he wants her to come to his birthday party and you ask them what he thinks. Alexa looks like yes this conversation we had on the show a couple of days ago and so then I was I was like Oh oh that's I should ask him because I think you may be set. I wonder what he thinks. She looks like and I was like well. I'll have to ask him and he'll tell me yours amy and her eight year old son talking about Alexa. Tell us what Alexa looks like. She have her. She was sunglasses. Shows really for skin <hes> black. I should look sunglasses so she's blonde. The first comment was Brown so he said he describes her as Brown and black which <unk> Sheera Stevenson says that they have black skin there Haitian but still sheera prefers brown skin so he kind I said both colors okay so she's black sunglasses and she's beautiful sketches beautiful skin. She's pretty and handsome. It's going to be disappointed that she doesn't to show up to the party. GotTa find a Beautiful Brown woman to come wake glasses and pretty and handsome. Would you fake it though I mean. I guess so you know our friend. She has to do everything this even says. When she shows up he just yells at her to do stuff yeah. He definitely will ask her about the weather. What is the weather going to be like today and she will have to know that we have a business where yeah because they do the Disney princesses yes where you go as Alexa and you have to know a lot of information I would ask. You and you have to like sneak off to the side. Zeidan like ask the Real Alexa you can tell you. Are you guys doing anything special for the party like where you going. We're going to be at Kevin Michelle's house yeah they have. They were getting like a bouncy house and barbecuing and yeah. It'll be fun. If you're listening to this. Hopefully on Sunday night you'll watch our C._N._A. Music Festival Kelsey Ballerini Thomas Rhett and myself all hosting it and they're also playing but like Lona Zack and Dan Shea and it's on A._B._C.'s eight seven central so we hope that you'll watch watch that coming up kind of a bonus. Tell me something good. A Woman Arkansas bought out an entire payless shoe store that was closing down and got fifteen hundred pairs of shoes for pennies on the dollar now having an event or parents can get free shoes and time for school. That is awesome pretty cool <hes>. Yep a woman in North West. I Arkansas Jim Carey. Jernigan took her kids to the mall and they had that gay kind of halfway down now like we're closing so what are you. GonNa do with all these shoes and like well L. Liquidation all right Abiam all if I can get them real cheap so they did should how much the cashier there about three hundred pairs and she got them for about forty nine cents since each whenever they kind of do the math on it so now she's like okay. Come off. Anybody wants it so I thought it was pretty cool. Things got even more generous because she came back with a truck pickup shoes. The story just got another shipment thousand pair of shoes that she bought them to wow wonder whether sending grazing though causing the problem the America Shoe Gluttony <hes> so I saw that that was fantastic. There's a Las Vegas pizza place adding grasshopper toppings. Grasshoppers are are all the rage. Grasshoppers are all over Vegas now they've taken over. Las Vegas using those. Oh yeah collecting them for Las Vegas. Pizzeria is looking to cash in on on the grasshopper invasion starting yesterday evil pie selling pizza top grasshoppers in a facebook post. The restaurant's owner says that the Canyon Hopper her which the name of the pizza is made with Theresa Goat Cheese caramelized onions Arugula and lyman garlic roasted grasshoppers in a social media post. The the eatery admits what started as a joke amongst our stone her friends has swept the nation so whenever I find over Pineapple on pizza they've decided to hit you with the Canyon Hopper for Pinal now yeah I'm good with. I like it you yes or no absolutely eddie really torn on this Morgan number two absolutely not no why not why has like. I'm not really an advocate of it. I'm recommending but I like pineapple on Canadian. Bacon right also good what's up as a Hawaiian pizza right. I mean favorite pizza topping one top and go gee yeah well I. I'm assuming there's cheese and bread crust already. They're playing pizza veggies yeah to vegetables here. Eddie well. I mean I can't just go mushroom so I'm just GonNa go pee <hes> Pepperoni like I go full pepper. I go one PEPPERONI. My favorite like mushrooms. I do Pepperoni and mushroom letterbox <hes> sausage. We're going to just cheese pizza. I don't like your that one YEP O._B. Irritating is this happened with veggie pizza and cheese pizza whenever the office will order pizzas says I used to order pizzas all the time somebody would demand get pizza and like one piece will be right. It would be gone. Let me pizza will be gone but the person who demanded a veggie pizza. There'd be like one or two P. There's all the veggie pizza. Nobody eats yeah same thing with cheese pizza well then I would order the pepperoni mushroom one and they'll be like so gross and there'll be nothing left afterwards <hes> <hes> what I thought you had to pick off the <hes> mushrooms and eat the pepperoni. Oh my my son orders my five year old. He orders pepperoni pizzas but he takes them all off. You don't like cheese pizza but he likes pepperoni pizzas without he likes to yeah would you we grasshopper pizza. You want it now. Even you even me. I wouldn't into X. Eating yes bugs. Yes you anything that supposedly will make you healthier. I don't know that the that pizza's going to be healthier or those. Grasshoppers I go. Oh yes amy goes. No it sounds really good. Let's give it a shot yeah three Morgan Grasshopper Pizza. Nope no way Dang Morgan number two into this fancy ice ice cream places like old school and she goes in she. What did you get. She goes well. I got vanilla ice cream with sprinkles and it was okay. Of course it's only okay. It's like you're going to this plays been around fifty years that makes fancy like shakes and <hes> Sundays and she gets like a standard cone so pretty and then she's all like it was just okay okay thing. He didn't give it a shot. It was chocolate dipped though it was like one of their big items so I thought it'd be a good one. She was a hater tortoise hi. I'm Daniel Schaffler. Join me on my new travel podcast cold. Everyone I've spent the majority of my life circling the globe I have fed straight dunks in Cairo for a day been tattooed in the back of a jewelry store in Istanbul and I've joined the chef to seek out new sources of protein eighteen and the Amazon so i WanNa tell you how I travel and how you could come with me and I'll show you everywhere every week over two two seasons I will take you to different places across the globe chance a magical experiences and stories and include interviews from Travel Connoisseurs like the C._E._o. Of starbucks I Kevin Johnson Design Kelly worsely and the director of the Smithsonian American Art Museum plus soon to be revealed. I haunt media stunts. Uh listening subscribe to everywhere apple podcasts the iheartradio APP a wherever you get your podcasts Latte Sammy's pile of stories so the inventor of the gender reveal party. Admits is a stupid idea. She kind of regrets CBS you know popularizing it so she's a blogger per baby revealed was way back in two thousand and eight and it involved slicing a piece of cake and and like pink would be on the inside are blue and that's how you would now while she was having a girl and it kind of caught fire on the Internet and everybody started doing it and now they've taken on me. Now people like do gender reveal lasagna. That's where you go all the I didn't know the cake was the first one yeah that was the first inderal and she she thinks that there's danger in these types of parties now because you're like pudding like social stuff like on a baby before they're even born like nobody's he's really care what sex the baby is. It's not that big of a deal like fewer thinking it yeah. It's it's fun for some people. It's dumb for others. I don't have yeah but there's no social thing. People either boys or girls and they're usually happy with the baby. That's that comes out and is it healthy alive. You know she said that assigning focus on gender birth leaves out so so much of their potential and their talents and has nothing to do with what's in between their legs you know you mentioned healthy Eddie. This people get mad and we go all want a healthy baby because my baby was the healthy and I still love it. It's true yeah but it's a weird thing is really read anything about that but it's okay to also say you just want a healthy baby right. That's okay yeah everybody so sensitive getting but heard about everything now what else amy. I'm well. Holiday Inn and even more hotels are announcing a move to help save the environment and lunchboxes not gonNa like this but they plan to ditch all the many toiletry bottles in all their guest rooms. Yeah they're gonNA put it into like a bowl size where you're right right like at the gym shower the gym a lot of times they have a big container that you pump out of and then you can't take that home with you and you're. GonNa make me mad. I'd take them home because all they do is throw them. I'm away. I think they waste too much so that's why I take them. Okay so you actually like this because it helps. You'RE GONNA miss out on all the free stuff do miss out on the free shampoo but what what do you do you think of that friends episode where Ross reminds me of lunchbox because when Ross is staying in hotel he packs up everything and he wants to take all the toilet paper and he wants Chandler's toilet paper from Israel and that's a line. Fox said that was because of other circumstances whether it's because he steals or once it had that at every hotel I don. I don't think that's the case at every hotel but when they go to the apple orchards that we're talking about when it all falls out and everything's there now no I'm talking about a different episode. I guess yes okay so a couple has named their puppies after the Taco Bell Menu to help them find homes. They recently rescued a dog from a shelter kill list and when they got the dog home they had no idea the dog was pregnant with puppies and they're like. Whoa we rescue dog. We didn't know you're risking a dog with like all these puppies so obviously obviously now they need to get them all adopted and they found a Q._a. to do it they named the puppies. Chalupa Fiesta potato cinnamon twist crunch contracts. Pre Doritos locos Gordon. There's a lot of puppies puppies and Dan Retail Win for that readout orders. Oh what is the guy I was before Kito Veto. I mean we're talking. Oh It's good. It's the case on the outside. I walked into the break room and ray was eating some kito balls. Yeah meatballs also but healthy yeah. I was like noon and I was like trust in that Kito and he was dedicated had as little container his little meatballs is cutting them up in like a quarters orders like he's on it but I'm telling you good. Thank you my man. My girls don't and she was the inspiration. I told her I join her. Can you stay on this data. It's simple each easy. Whatever you want just know pizza no bread no carbs. You can eat beef jerky tons of stuff on Kito. You'd be surprised pork rinds big. Goldberg worried about getting the meat sweats. No I got those yet. You drop a little weight <hes> yeah. I'm not trying to lose weight but just because of the Diet. I guess I'm eating eating a ton though I just as much as I usually do. We look good. Thank you killing two names dedicated. He's chopping of Islam meatballs. <hes> Eddie made a joke arguably ruin going to interact also lost weight. We'll probably do this tomorrow night. Chicago see if it works. Thanks and we have a picture noticing. We have a practice that yet but I'm like hey manually good. Thanks man how you doing Keto Diet Yeah. I've been on it that way. What did you say Kito. I'm on the Taki Dodi Kito Diet. It'd be better it'd be a little better. Keno Diet talk of all day and get it all right. Thank you <hes> we good yeah. That was amy's pile of stores. It's time for the good news a woman picking up breakfast at a Tennessee. McDonald's was surprised with a free meal recently. Her name is Heidi goforth. She lives in Nashville Tennessee. She was in the drive through buying breakfast for our son which went to pay the bill had already been taken care of on the receipt. She was handed. There was a handwritten note that said my son is in the air force. I can't buy breakfast so I bought yours have a blessed day and she was so touched that she put the story up on facebook and it's being in a lot of lot of shares so that that's pretty awesome so oh you know hide it if it's GonNa Breakfast but she got free because somebody else was like man. We'll talk about my son. He's offi serving somebody do this for you so she wrote back on the message. He's lucky to have a mom that loves them so much. God bless you and him and tell him thank you for service so hopefully that'll get back to the person 'cause she doesn't care about of the breakfast but that was an awesome story and I wanted to share that and that's what it's all about. That doc was telling me something good bound latest. Nashville in Hollywood Morgan number two thirty seven skinny and Christiane share the details of his next album. It's called real friends and it's coming out on October eighteenth. There's eleven new songs on the album and he says he made all of the songs with actual real friends of his and here's here's a clip of good vibes from it. Well I would think the Eddie and I are Israel friends. We're not on the record yeah. It's kind of weird like go to Christmas parties. Yeah Yeah Y'all song right. He opened with for us. Whatever is now new good friends. Yeah what else Morgan Narran Morris is the subject of the magazine Harper Bazaars. I Music Documentary Keith urban and Sheryl Crow or featured on talking about Merrin and that videos up at bobby bones dot com. I'll watch some of it. It's really good yeah yeah. It's really a fantastic piece where it's <hes> Merrin Maron going well. Here's the issue. The Country Music has women in the people are talking about it and goes to her music. It's a really strong look for her not that she needs. It is pretty cool. What else umbrella Gilbert has a new song out tomorrow and it's called bad boy. He shared a teaser on social media new Brantley and Lindsey L. We performed together on the fest on Sunday night at eight seven seven central so hopefully you check that out on A._B._C. All right there you have it. I'm not that's your skinny your buddy and my miss the Bob Transmitter America right. You guys ready for the investigative. They've Corny is amy's joke but we try to figure it out and we have one minute and thirty seconds to figure out AMY's Corny joke. Let me get some of that investigative music. Please Raymundo Right. The timers been put up in front of me will have ninety seconds from what amy finishes are joke categories job today. Botany my my strongest of job categories. I mean plan already. Raimondo hit that Jingle <music> morning corny couldn't the flower ride his bike to school. Why couldn't the flower ride his bike to school. He couldn't pedal fast enough. It's GonNa be a pedal thing right. Stolas pedals pedal thing what's our answer doesn't have any pedals. It's gotta be that right like yeah. He had. He didn't have any pedals bike pedals. You're GONNA have to. We're just GONNA go at that. The answer is nailed this one you want to waste a minute well. We're going to talk about something else like Mike. Why couldn't he ride his pedals on his bike. pedals were broken. It's gotta be gotta be because now he just be given it. If it's a pedal answer of not having good panel eighty I'm looking at me like that. Answer is pedal. Waffles were broken no but could flower petals fall off a flower. I know but they're also broken pedals. Don't break his pedals. Were he didn't have functioning properly. You're not getting it. I do get it. Okay didn't have any pedals I mean. I guess that all depends Raimondo hit that jingle place <music> morning glory. Why couldn't the flower ride his bike to school. Victory tomboys go ahead. pedals are broken and it's written. Let us answer. Take anything <music> you for no reason. I'm sorry which lovers and we're a team yeah and there's no teams they last night. We're not fighting for no reason up here hanging out. Wow Wow show thing clear hearts much we we needed that one. It's been a while kind of softball. Oh stop it. You probably the Bethany in Kentucky. Thanks for calling the bobby bones show. You're on the air. How are you. I'm good. How are you good. What do you want to say. Thank you all for letting Jimmy Life every morning. I love listening to you that you work and we wish it was intentional more than it is. Sometimes we just say dumb stuff this morning. Bethany Ledger here. You can take part in this conversation position this morning. A caller asked me hey what's the deal. What are you looking for in a girl remember that yeah and so I just list off some things just off the top of my head and I am just getting ripped for it online because no I know but what are you getting ripped for. They didn't say what are some things that you would give up baen. It's like what are what's the perfect scenario for you yeah and so. Can you read the things that were written in that tweet. She posted it. Go ahead. What what am I looking for. According to Your tweet semi he goes no problem. Bro Not put in the okay okay ready. The question was what am I looking for in a girl. I answered a question. I didn't come with this bit going here you here He. Here's what I demand. You were asked gave an answer. My answer smart got it. Funny got physically fit. People that read books got it. Someone who is all about me but not all about me. That's a tough one but go ahead so independent that it drives me crazy right now now that I don't know that I'm asking for anything out of what I would feel is acceptable for me to have the rest of my life relationship. <hes> yeah but here are some comments from people that they're just stumped me. In the head on social media go ahead seventy goes no problem bro. I've got a Unicorn for you. Oh Wow funny. She's GonNa be hard to find yeah. <hes> what else Morgan number two have you ever seen. The movie weird science. I have back in the day or they created the perfect girl. I remember that I'm down for that. If the technology out uh-huh I know one day if you come to us in your dating a what did they do happen. It's just what day will it be. I hope you're in a real relationship before that option comes up. Are we bring in a as a third to spice it up. Nope oh what a number to it any other ones you see over there yeah. There's a lot of these anyone more. <hes> that sounds a lot like Shar number GIS. Oh that's interesting style it Bethany anything you'd like to say about that first of all just WanNa say voted good for you every single like on Dan. Thank you very much appreciate that. Thank you yes yes. I was so happy for you but <hes> I think I mean like you said you were asked questions and you answered it honestly and not saying have to compromise it. There you go. That's a job for life is full of compromise and and I plan to compromise on everything except that list. That's any thank you have a wonderful day. Thank you all right. See you later. I WANNA go talk out to Anna in Chicago. Anna what's happening hi Bobbie. I'm coming to see you tomorrow night and I'm so excited excited listening on big ninety ninety five in Chicago. <hes> you know we're playing Chicago. Eddie and I are tomorrow doing our comedy and music show but it's the same weekend as Lollapalooza. Did you know that I did know that they're getting 'cause. We're taking all their people like pretty much. Cancel Lalas ticket sales are struggling. They're idiots in Carnegie Center. I know what Song Are you looking and forward to us most singing <hes> <hes> well. I don't know I'm just excited to come see me and my nineteen year old daughter coming. I'm an R._A. Well let me tell your in your in store for a night of mediocrity at most at my. Hey thank you that we'll see you tomorrow tomorrow night all right all right all right by anyone that wants to come raging idiots dot com. If you WANNA get tickets the fantasy draft results from yesterday. Have you guys seen who won <hes>. We figured I mean I figure I know who it is. It's amy okay well and we had the first pick shipping George Straight yesterday. The game was cowboy hat wearers and what happens we draft in order. It's hard to get a team that you want because you have to wait other people to draft in last place kind of work backward lunchbox. Thank you very much good job <hes> and then tied for next to last for Eddie ooh tied and Morgan Number Two oh she had a thorough in one where maybe she didn't win. Oh no on on this conspiracy theory and now I'm kidding never to and in second place with Alan Jackson Kenny Chesney and Hank Williams junior was me finish second again two three times in a row and amy winter I ever until George Strait just feels like such an honor. I'll have let them know. Hopefully do you think he knows. I'm sure it was all the talk of San Antonio. You're right. Ami Had George Strait John Party and Chris Stapleton. What a fantastic but then you also have some strong picks second and third rich Sean and Chris my boys yeah look at you winning so three wins and he has one amy has one eh I finished second twice in a row. Just can't can't pull the trigger can't close the deal. It's like my dating. Life came. Close the deal okay seven seven year old boy gets five hundred twenty six blank removed from his mouth amy teeth. Wow Wow interesting lunchbox legos who solid guests. They're small pieces legos. Yeah Eddie <hes> I would go. I'M GONNA go with nerds candies five hundred sixteen right now even leftover from a month ago uh-huh guess. Nobody likes going to the dentist for what they fear. They may find one seven year old boy went and found out that he had <hes> five hundred twenty six hidden teeth. What Amy Me Nerds Eddie. That'd be removed. Surgically the abnormal teeth were embedded in his jawbone. Oh my my goodness moving all the extra teeth and then left them with the twenty-one normal teeth that he had doctors could not find a reason as to why it's so many extra hidden away but maybe possible radiation exposure or some genetic defect. Everything else is fine. This is good. We're all good here but five hundred twenty six teeth that jawbone stuff like I and if you've been with the show for a while you know I've told the story I didn't go to the dentist until my twenty S. I grew up pretty poor so you didn't go to the dentist. You'd just tried to make the pain go away and because of that I never took my wisdom teeth out and so I got old and they're like hey. These are impacting man US get him out. Good never got him out before. I was like twenty six twenty seven. I'm all good dude. You should get them out. It's bad news. I'm tough thirty years old. You gotta get them out. WHO CARES ABOUT THIRTY TWO. They said Hey your teeth are gonna Jawbone that a break my jaw bone on one side of my mouth over here like crack it to get the teeth out because it had grown into my jaw bone. I know nobody Nova new new story about me. I was just idiot. Thank you five hundred twenty. Make it easier as an example of what not to do. There's a story. I'm GonNa talk about in a second about a Delta pilot. Did you see he's and I think about you. Because your husband yeah you got caught with a bottle of alcohol and he was drunk. Yes but to get on a plane and fly people. That's messed up. We'll talk about that coming up in a minute Raymundo. Put up a tweet. I'd like to review this tweet the perfect ending to a perfect month. y'All wait for August. It's going to be epic. Oh that's okay. All of twitter is a buzz about that tweet. You also posted the picture of a sunset. Yeah I mean then you pretty much have to when you're sitting out there and it's just it was beautiful dude. I wanted the world to see that sunset the perfect ending to a perfect what was so perfect about your month. July was greatness greatness. We had fourth of July went to Hawaii celebrated. My girl beaten cancer for a year. My brother got married and now I have nieces nephews. I got all kinds of family all of a sudden it was a crazy month and I'm like footballs here and we got some big time stuff going on in August okay so August as he says y'all wait for August. It's going to be epic epic. You're are you. GonNa August possibly yeah. I need to things to come like to fruition and it's for sure that August what are those two things that you need to come to fruition to propose to your girlfriend have six years definitely. The ring is one. You're trying to grow it. No takes time now to do what what's the time consuming thing about the ring. Honestly it's not just one of those you walk in awe. I picked this out. It's coming from someplace very very special and it's it takes time to get here from there. Are you mining yourself. I'm just telling you the person that told me hey maybe it's two to three weeks. Maybe it's a month so so you've already been in touch with the person that's getting you the ring. Yes isn't one of my one of my clients. What am I know maybe down the road. I guess if there's other do things to a ring. It's not just the diamond. There's the band. There's all kinds of stuff so yes. Some of them can come into play as well. What's so funny. That's the truth the Dave Ramsey no we. He gives us a guy but yeah he did not all right. Well Good luck with your strong August. Thank you Raymundo. Who is the Audio Guy who runs all the buttons on the Board Board who I would compare to joey from friends as to what he looks like kind of how he lives his life five foot six key towing it up on on that Kito any skinnier every day like I don't WanNa be skinny. Dude got your like underwear shirt on today. It looks like you're you're wearing long johns but it's just a shirt yeah. This is my workshop man. Just GonNa Jealous Guy Walks in looks great and underwear shirt like you bud thank you all right. It's going to be awesome <music>. This is the outcast a weekly podcast about what it means to be clear today by out magazine and it staffers. I'm your host. France Rondo the deputy editor at out magazine. This label gets thrown on her. She doesn't necessarily identify yourself that way. Everything you see on drag race you saw in Harrison's burning. I just wanted to be like majors soaking up her brilliance. Listen and subscribe to the outcast on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts I'm at this bar last night because they're the new band called the badland sons and big fan of the badland sons and and they had a show and I'm there we're hanging out and Eddie comes and so there's a there's a curl would kind of end up in the same circle. I'm like you know I didn't really come out here to try Russia but why not so it's loud and I've tried to talk like hey how're you the most awkward person when it comes to talk someone over loud music. I do not thrive in that environment yeah and so billy Bali. It's a whole thing is it's a nightmare right and so. I think I am about a half step behind what I started because I had seen her in. We talked a little bit like once about. I didn't know where and we start talking now. I think bigger idiot than before we started because all I did was yell things over. The talk shows this by. I'm so awkward. I'm Never GonNa get past this and now it's over. I'm not not going to improve at this game so there was nothing I think again. I think she feels worse about me than before. We'd started half yelled thinks more of an idiot than before I think she goes wow. This guy's got a little potential. Let's look at them talk. You follow her on instagram not going to answer that because people go look. I don't follow that many fine. Is there another way you could reach reach out to her. We don't take right like Sarah. Why situation or if she'll come and watch me do stand up then I really dominate. That's not you interacting acting with her. Who Cares bring you in here. Put Her in a chair and watch us do the show but anyway it was kinda miserable last night this so unsuccessful. You just got kind of be good looking or be drinking to be able to pull that off with a loud music. So how long have you spend thinking gave up yeah every time she couldn't hear well. I mean did she seem the slightest interested in what are you saying someone's yelling and then your ear hurts yeah and and I'll be like and then the music right when I start to yell the song. Can I ask you a question. What gag disaster disaster I get lonely all the time. Just can't do it. I need to order one of those Russian brides. No woah no show by true. We'll come over here and be collecting your information this dating APP and on it says where people were born in India. Some people are International. They're in the states now anytime they say Russia. I think there is by <hes>. There's no way they're going to date them. They're probably working for Putin bragging to hack my election probably do what you have to be careful too because you do have aspirations to be in politics and we're actually dealing with that now a a couple things we're doing here at the station like I just if it feels funny. I can't do it anymore and they know work knows. They're like we're not. GonNa put you in a bad situation because we know you have political ambition. Amy and I had a talk a month ago. I was like hey it could happen at any time like off air. We're all I was like. Hey should get ready because before we know there's going to be amy show and I'll be out oh I thought you you were telling her get ready. We're going to move to the White House. No that would be take steps before sixteen hundred Pennsylvania but I and also had some attorneys go look and see what languages and the Arkansas like state cost for living there. You have to live there seven years in a row but not right now. I've already been there the worst part of my life any points. Oh yeah good there at least 'til you were what twenty twenty two solid a. Delta pilot thirty seven years old is arrested with a bottle of alcohol after boring a plane drunk in Minneapolis unbelievable believable when I saw that a pilot gone into a commercial airline and had been drinking and they took a bottle of alcohol. I thought it was another country and he to and then I saw it was Delta right here. In the United States of America thirty seven years old he was removed from the fully boarded plane only boarded a Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport on Tuesday at Eleven A._M. Him He was arrested on suspicion of being under the influence of alcohol he had been scheduled to fly the plane from Minneapolis to San Diego boy. That's an ashore flight either prior to boarding the flight. T._S._A. officer spotted Schroeder leaving a screening line and there were like <hes>. They're doing some extra checks on him and so he he was arrested. Police allegedly found a bottle of alcohol on which why would you have a bottle of alcohol on you are going to be his plan. If he's that donkey music not thinking clearly really I would imagine or I don't know what pilots are allowed to bring through because they are. They can bring you know special things well listen. I'll say this no formal. I'm all charges were immediately filed and any formal complaint is pending the results of the toxicology tests and that will take as long as a week. He declined to comment to C._N._N. innocent until proven gaps. I'm going to read that paragraph needed to say that maybe it was a bottle of Cala motion in just look like our call and maybe he's having some sort of like mental episode that appeared as though he was drunk and he wasn't and if he smelled like alcohol. I don't know I don't know but I mean that's just been that new Cologne Scotch Watch. I love that one aged whiskey Jack Jack. Do I have a clip Raimondo for this on the news. I don't see one. Is there no club okay. Someone stole the package off a woman's porch and inside of it were nine blank snake- snakes lunchbox. Iraq's already know the answer. Thank you for bailing out Eddie dynamite sticks. Well Yeah Yeah and he's like. Oh my gosh I gotta get rid of this. Someone's package off the porch in South Carolina but it had nine tarantulas inside. The cops say they don't have any suspects so far. There's a woman in Spartanburg South Carolina. She call cops. She got notification that her fedex x package was delivered. She did not see it on our porch but packages against on all the time but everybody it's always in the news yeah. I don't know the person that stole the person's dog. Remember that Ah yes and tried to sell it dropped off a package grabs. The Wiener dog then puts the wiener dog on craigslist for like eighty bucks of course you get caught and I started thinking like that's probably unless I sat just coincidence that the first time they did it but maybe that's their thing. I Walk my dog and I see a lot of packages. Just sit in front of people's houses for two days. They have whatever you want so that's why they do and I guess tempting yeah. I mean they. Are there and you know sometimes. I'll had a package that out there for for twelve hours so why don't you. I don't know it's there. Sometimes we don't use our front door because we come in through the back. Here's Dwayne Johnson the rock on Jimmy Fallon talking about what he eats his cheat meals. You hang cakes pancakes aches amid the Sushi right there at the same time that is Sushi an pancakes yes which I wouldn't recommend that but no gotta give it a shot. What else ah yes even more sushi sandwiches? Those are good looking. It's the best dude and for me the cheap meals. It's like it's like church. Recruits occurred you workout hard and once a week treat yourself and then you know I partake in that and I just I open my computer and I said the but here's the thing I have to wait until they're everybody's asleep sleep. That's the way I gotta do it. I put the baby down asleep. Everyone goes to sleep lauren. Everybody so at like midnight. He's going hard on food if people have to go to sleep for him to do it uh-huh asleep. Usually that's when you play video games yeah. I can have a video game closet now madden's about madden come out Raimondo tomorrow. Maybe August it. It's the one game that I buy in play for about three weeks ago. Play in the closet or you just store in a lot of people that live in the balls anyway wait. So what's this closet. I would say my my my closet has like a little closet on. It and I've put the screen up in there so i. I have a video game closet now. That's where you go play well. I haven't yet I've just now set it up for Madden basically and have four night but I'll never play it. I just get on there and nine year. Olds curse me out and beat me like it to play for at night. I put the headset on and they're like hey B._B._b. I'm like dude. You're like eleven and you're saying the effort in thirty seconds more than I've said in the past ten years and so then you just feel creepy talking to kids on a headset right so you felt creepy about that for years and you've only gotten older nave stayed the same age all right unquote. They won't play madden really against anyone random because again these kids get on there and you just feel weird with kids in your ear and they are mean they will google all search you and pull up your and make fun of pictures of you as your. They'll be like time you that while they're playing those they'll fix my my screen. Name is Bob. It's like and I'm like no yeah it is. We know your voice and southern they'll google. Hey what about this picture here you hear like stupid and and then I'm gonNA lose to so. It's just a whole losing situation. You put up a poll the other day about your hair. I voted so don't know where the results ended up but you had your big curly Kinda Kinda for O'hare and you're like should I bring this hair back. I voted yes. They're like three people voted. Yes yeah so now. It's not coming back. I'm Paul. I should get botox today. Don't let amy I know she's. She'll be the one vote now. This podcast began with a simple premise but things don't always go as planned and something happened during production something. No one expected <music>. I'm going to let you in a dark secret south that have tried to hide from almost every one of the past few years. I can't sleep at night and when I am Mabel to sleep. I have nightmares not the kind of nightmares that a child might have but the kind that can only come from the mind of a grown adult who's seen gene and read a little too much. I'm hoping that if I can get this off my chest maybe just maybe I'll be able to shake these killers out of my head long enough to get some much needed rest from iheartradio and tender foot TV muster presents INSOMNIAC listen to monster presents INSOMNIAC on apple podcasts or wherever else you get your podcasts. It's time for the good news amy so Megan Ashley was on a recent flight from San Diego to Nashville and she witnessed something that was so special that she shared it on facebook and now it's getting a lot of attention but she's on this flight and this woman near her is ninety eighty six years old scared to fly you've flown before in her life but it'd been like fifteen years or so and she was really terrified so she asked the man next to her. If you would hold <unk> her hand during takeoff so he did so cute then when they were up in the air and then when they were up in the Arab experienced turbulence and he let her she needed to like hug him so she embraced him during the turbulence and he let her in. He told her kind of what was happening being said things to calm her down so she didn't he helped her ninety six helps her with her bag and then once they landed even helped her find her daughter who was picking her up. She called him her flight angel. That's a sweet story yeah so anyway the woman that witnessed it posted on facebook so I thought I was super cute because I mean that that guy you know she could have sat next somebody that was like get off me own lady but how old was he doesn't say it doesn't give the age of the flight angel now plied angels just well. You know a man maybe he could angel. Let's say the flight goes up right and I'm sitting next and there's you know attractive female next to me and I'm like we just hold my hand. I'm hello nervous then I finally you know it escalates while I'm like sit on your lap because I really don't on. What are they the going yeah but turbulence. You need to think of something where really helps. I don't know that he hopes kissing hissing. We okay with this. Kissing was much say it. That's a good start. I love that story good for him glad she found someone and that's what it's all about. That was telling me something good looking at the text green. Hey Morgan number two when you get on this five four number that wrote. You're a Douche bag on the screen. Let's see if they'll answer the phone and they didn't you are with an apostrophe. That's your douchebag like the wrong way yeah. Let's let's see if Almighty textra wants to come on on the show and talk probably like probably poop in her pants right now about the whole number sure an audience member assaults a comedian during show in San Francisco. A comedian at a venue was attacked by an audience member who was told to stop talking. The assault was recorded by camera inside a performance space and there's how long is this clip. Raimondo is fifteen seconds. There are no bad words right. They may be bleeped okay. It's okay to play all right here. You know who you are. Holy the mother wow that's super cool. He's like stopped talking. That's wild man. I'll tell you the worst thing is if you're trying to do spoken word. Somebody's yelling can't stop thinking. They're funny not even thinking that they're getting at the comedian like fighting with them thinking. They're also adding to the show. You're not adding to the show. Just you gotTA show you don't like it. You can leave you should leave and there are people that will yell at when I'm doing stand up and to be kind and be like we love you but I'm like right in the middle of a joke like either. Get Out of the joke or don't do that either music plan. You can yell all you want but yeah for spoken word I. I haven't heard that audio. I just saw the clip of it that stink. You worried about that ever like the I here's why I'm not with that is because because I'm in a theater so the rooms are bigger yeah. It takes a while to get to you. You can run that starts. Ninety three old ushers work in the front of the totally now it'd be it'd be hard to get there however I will say this. There's a city adding are going to and they have open carry law in the city and carry guns and they hit me up and they're like do you want to be able to carry guns in the theater and I was like I'm okay with it could be fun. No no no I was like. Let's not make an issue about it right I I am. I like guns. You know it's I think if you have a a license and a permit you should be able to have it if you've been trained to have a gun right or or if you haven't done anything stupid enough for them to be able to say no gun for you. You're okay and if I'm okay with that but it was a whole issue. Yesterday we had a meeting about it now. I want to see what town of this because people go. He likes to be this. Everybody's GonNa pull shooting in the air good job man. WHOA guys that was. How do you feel about because we're GONNA show yeah? They see if they would come to you and said hey this town. The city has a <hes>. You can carry in the theater you can carry. Do you want us to say no carrying hiring in theater. No it's okay because if that's what the town's used to then they go everywhere like that. It's all right. I'm not worried about that. I also not just wind down. I'm not for everybody should have guns. Idiot should have guns dumb that you should not be allowed to have a gun but yeah it was a whole thing yesterday you <hes> Morgan number one working with her yesterday. She's now working for me in a different capacity. It was the first I had worked with her over on that side of things that killing it should degree oh awesome <hes> yeah. It was great right so everybody's asking where she hasn't how she is. She's over there working on the they call the management side of things <hes> but she's doing good. An assault charge has been dropped opt on the ten year old injured in dodgeball. We talked about this yesterday. Okay they dropped. It will yeah because it was ridiculous. Who should get in trouble is the UH well nobody but if this kid had issues planned dodgeball he should've been kept out a dodgeball if someone had gone to the teacher and said hey this kid shouldn't play dodgeball. He has a B and C in the teacher knew. The teachers should get in trouble if she but no. It's all been dropping assault charge against the ten year old boy who injured a fellow classmate in a dodgeball game has been dismissed. They announced it was a whole deal yesterday. Show the injured boy suffered a concussion a black guy and had a bruise on his nose. That was just another the Wednesday at school for boys and girls. Oh Man Yeah so that's an update. The you WanNa hear a story. That's GonNa make you know I know you. WanNa hear the Selena Gomez story my telling me during the break. I don't even yeah because I have no idea what what did she do. Tell me what happened with Selena Gomez. We'll Selena Gomez. Ed had a kidney donated to her by a friend. Remember that okay and now. It's been a year since he's talked to her. She ghosted her the story. Wait why the story is that Selena Gomez Go. I saw Raymond does base go. ooh. Okay now listen. It's unfair for us to go. This is the absolute truth because of that story well. She said she goes at her because she had told her the friend who donated the kidney that she wasn't going to drink anymore and so now she's been having some wine lately and now has wants nothing to do with her so you need to stop talking to her. Oh man so the kidney giver <hes> I said don't drink. What's you can't say that what you give Oregon. It's hers right. It is yeah no you don't get to make the rules that Oregon you. Don't I mean I don't know what the deal is not drinking. It needs its in her body like I know there's issues drinking and liver. I mean I know like our organs do all sorts of things to process alcohol but I don't know what her condition is and if the doctor said hey don't drink any alcohol and her friend probably wasn't why she gave it but as a friend she cares about modern. She's like you need to not drink but you don't go. You can't drink. She's not like that's my kidney in there. I'll take back right right. Well more take it. You got the second shot at life and you're GonNa like taint the kidney ghosting well who goes did I'm gonNA focus so the the friend confronted Arab Selena Gomez about it friend Confront Selena then Selena Gomez going you salina salina now. No you can't give somebody a kidney and then go making the rules for that kidney as a friend as a matter. It doesn't matter as a friend you can be like. I really care for you and I hope you don't drink but what you guys are kidding. That's yours. I yeah that's hard. I hope that they reconcile Repo Kidney. Person Shows SELENA's asleep. They're trying to quietly back. That's like the ultimate. Go sings great. I don't think I've ever heard a more like crazy. ghosting story ghosting on someone gave a kidney. I I mean you've been ghosted wait. Why would you say that so. Why feeling matter of fact like of course you've been goes. I know you have in the past but I don't know if it's happening anytime recently like I think there's been ghosting in story posted bobbie-ann well. I mean I think we married by the time ghosting through coined the term yeah back like when you guys were together that was called Oregon trailing. Yes went away. We weren't there when the facts exactly on avoid longest a modern day organ organ trail okay so this is. It's been a bit. I'd say a couple months. Maybe before that but one of my friends goes having a set you up with somebody. I'm like cool. They put me her in that front three texts which I never liked anyway. I'm not a fan of that. I'm going to introduce you guys on text and they're also in the chat as a weird thing so I'm like all right cool so they put us all three up. I'll be a pretty vulnerable here so we can take shots from it. I guess it's true so you got it. So then you got to kind of be funny not only to the girl. Oh and this girl I would say <hes> depending who you're talking to Kinda famous okay came in her world famous got it and I'm like now going to impress the friend that's kind of affirmative really and then this girl and I'm having to do material in a chat room a text room for both people Oh and then so we take text to our own space and it's just her and texting and then it would be like hey whatever we get and then she would just disappear. I would send a message when respond for like three weeks. That'd be like you still good and I'm like what in reply back that you wouldn't respond for like two weeks so she got ghosted on texts. That's how you get goes. Do I thought it was like in person anyway those you're out and then they're like Irish goodbye well. No that's not what it goes this K- go Morgan number two and say goes things more so oh like digital like that's the first step because you never see them in person. Yeah No. It's it's totally digital. I mean well organ donation. If someone ghosts you they don't do it in person that's okay. I don't even know yeah then we definitely didn't have ghosting because we didn't even really have texting back in the day and I'll still get text from her like every few weeks and it just as you could go on like what's up. How are you respond and then I don't hear anything for weeks so I stopped responding well so now you ghosted. Sir I have done the <hes> goes back. We're ghosting each other at the same time no but she started she but yeah. I I've been ghost. You started it goes to more number two yeah recently yes yeah. It doesn't feel good. I mean I've probably done it too. That's why I'm not hating on it. Oh so like in the seventh grade. Oh boy this guy relatable to go back to like so we talked on the phone like the landline and he we were going to go do something for for July. I guess I was like maybe an eighth grade. I can't even move my mom was letting me do you this but he was a little bit older than me and he told me that him and his friend had plans in the I would be invited and then fourth of July came and I never got the phone call with the plans ghost host. Yes it is Raimondo. I think we're going to be done with the segment now about that sounds good. I remember his name. Will you give it what it kind of great to give that last segment no that was a because the ghosting talk you through an m. two she's digital and then old school amy and then the comedy the guy get attached to the comedy the club and we did the dodgeball update now. That was all just now. It was all one segment right what else we cover in this segment anything else we give. It solid a minus salina salina yeah. I'll tell you what the iphone for a second year. iphone could be hacked by text. The holes in the new apple software allows a hacker. 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I would take him on the show. I feel bad for him. It's a dumb reality. Show people are acting like we do have don't water yeah Jed. You have an official invite right now. Come on the show. If you don't come next week we we take it back. It expires hires. People are vilifying a little too much in my mind. There's a picture of him dancing. Well that shirt on jeans at the clubs loves Great Looking Guy. Anyway like top one percent of guys. I said that even when he walked out and he was like yeah lied I was like I just struck by how good looking he was. Oh so jealous makes me automatically like them and then I have to go stop judging people based on how good look the are right. He's so good looking. Have I mentioned easy. How good looking is probably say it again. Foley cow lunchbox. What's your take on the Bachelorette situation right now. I think jed looked bad. I mean but when you're going into that show so I mean I think he really thought he was going to go there. 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My vision was blurred. My husband keeps making my coffee and that's what I'm not feeling so good. She then became suspicious cameras in the kitchen. The cameras captured video of him pouring. I don't know really long term in our coffees and poisonous term chemical and multiple occasions intentionally poisoned her according to authorities a hundred and twenty seven milliliters of dip Hen Hydra I mean that's the last cup of coffee. He's GonNa be sentenced wild. I wonder what was going on inside crazy and he wants to our insurance life insurance yeah. That's too easy for insurance though he's first thing you do if someone dies also yeah. I would think he got side. Chick doesn't to me smart drew but smart people get insurance so now you're in that whole thing of like you know. He's just annoyed. Maybe he's tired of that. Nagging tired of her voice start projecting their thoughts and their wives ducks a teacher gets drunk at Prom and tries to fight the principal. There's always the one kid who gets drunk but this time it was <hes> a teacher a teacher that'd be awesome if your phone as a kid as an adult now but we don't often hear about teachers teachers who get trashed a prom a teacher drunk at the end of the school year and so he's going to knock out the principal wow like as a kid. I if power to hear the story to be like wow that's so crazy. I can't believe that that actually happens. Our teacher was drinking at the now that we're adults and I know people that are teachers and like I could see them wanting to drink. They go. I know right. Yeah like doesn't seem that's every profession we're adults seem to skydivers and Illinois collided in mid air or one of them was knocked unconscious. Oh my gosh but because of modern parachutes that saved his life throat they're both okay so was the hit and and one of them's out. 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FHM #25: The Auction House Allure

Dressed: The History of Fashion

21:12 min | 1 year ago

FHM #25: The Auction House Allure

"What do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where do they go right. And how can you you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home home Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti listening subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts outcasts dressed the history of fashion production of iheartradio seven one billion people in the world. We all have one thing in common every day. We all get dressed. Welcome to dress the history of fashion a podcast where we explore the WHO what why we wear fashion historians and your hosts April Callaghan and Cassidy Zachary and today dress listeners. We are excited to explore a topic that we have not yet had the pleasure of touching on these past two seasons and that is auction house. Yes we have of course talked a lot about museum collections and collecting but I do not know if we have yet mentioned that one way in which museums acquire pieces is through the auction market right and in fact a few episodes back lack CNN curator Clarisa escora spoke about this incredibly rare men's zoot suit that the museum had acquired at auction but we didn't actually have a chance to go into details about the high stakes stakes bidding war that ensued to acquire that garment and I found this little gem on lack mas blog unframed where Clarisa wrote about a quote our big break lake acquiring a zoot suit came in two thousand eleven when a man's will suit from New Jersey appeared in an East Coast auction catalogue listed with an estimated value of six to nine hundred dollars. There's knowing that was an extremely rare zoot suit. We submitted an application to bid by phone and when the auction began on November second the opening bid of five hundred dollars skyrocket bucket and less than a minute to bids of five figures the representative on the other end of the phone line could barely keep up with the pace of bidding and finally she said yes. It's yours and are hard fought winning bid for zoot suits that a new auction record for Twentieth Century Menswear. Yes I mean if you ever been to an auction in person they can get quite white exciting time. It was almost like a thriller a high like you're adrenaline pumping hard and while the most renowned auction houses such as Sotheby's while often have auctions dedicated to fashion textiles and accessories there are also auction houses specifically dedicated to selling these special types of items the most well known of these might be Kerry Taylor auctions in London and here in the United States we have Augusta auctions actions and both auction houses put out calls for submissions so if you have any fabulous couture vintage fashion that you've been wondering what to do with and and you would like to put ended up for sale auctions are always one option for you yup and they're great option both for selling your vintage treasures but also for acquiring them. I've always always found it actually a little intimidating to go to an auction but they most of them are actually open to the public. I went to a Kerry Taylor auction while in Grad school at F._I._T. And it was there that I acquired my very first Rudy Gern Reich so it was quite the experience and I actually highly recommended to anyone. It's very very fun and so two does is our guest today. Timothy Long it was as a curator at the Chicago History Museum that Tim honed his experience in fashion and textiles as well as the Chicago Gorn designer Charles. James and Tim joined us on Tuesday to discuss James's prolific career and legacy so if you have not listened to that episode yet you can check that out how today ten is going to discuss with us his work as a director and senior specialist of couture and luxury accessories for Heinemann auctions. Tim has such a fascinating job and thankfully for us. He is very giving with his time and experiences. He actually has this incredible instagram account which everyone must follow immediately at Timothy Long fashioned curator tem welcome back to the show. Tim You post the most wonderful educational videos on historic dress so we're some people might a post photographs you post videos and especially while you were at the Museum of London and now at the Auctioneer House. You are really retelling stories through videos and teaching people about this material culture that you interact with on a daily basis so I'm hoping you can tell us why right. Maybe how you thought if these videos invitees videos remain this important part of your work will thank you. I really enjoy making king the videos so the positive response that you've just said in that others have had it's been a real treat. There is such an immediate component to it compared to what cannot be a very long prosecutorial process now in auction world's you go through these development phases of projects that can be quite long in that kind of immediate response is something that is really quite powerful and I didn't fully well to be frank. I really opposed that the beginning I could not see value in social media in a professional way and I thought for all the things that I knew it was <hes> at least for me at the beginning which was a way to communicate socially with friends cat videos vacation right and so win. I left the Chicago History Museum and and during that time at the Chicago History Museum I curated many exhibitions two per year small exhibitions NHS about thirty mannequins up to one hundred twenty mannequins and it was a very active exhibition calendar and so when I moved to the Museum of London <hes> I did not have the opportunity to curate as many exhibitions and the Museum of London simply did did not have the same rotate gallery space as the Chicago History Museum did and so my focus to research whilst there and then I started herded to fear my curatorial output was <hes> all of a sudden not what it had been and I was looking for on outlets and a place to continue to experiment with ideas and I had for decades. It's been giving tours behind the scenes tours either teaching classes of mine for students down in the depths or bringing the public and win. You are able able to lift a caller or <hes> unbuttoned something or look at the inside in a very special very intimate way it it can be quite profound and it was a luxury that I enjoyed on a daily basis and when I got to share that with others I I really enjoyed it. I could see the positive impact <hes> even people that could care less about fashion hyphen or think that they could care less about fashion. I could entertain I could get into their mind in a way that made them appreciate it because they could see at no matter what garment we analyze there are things about that garment or accessory that can tell us something thing about people and so. I took that all those thoughts and there was this moment and I remember it clearly. Actually I had the worst flu and I was in bed for multiple days in. I was moaning about my life. In Oh my God what am I doing whereas my career and what about about my curatorial outputs and it clicked that social media is a platform and so from at that point four I just hit the ground running and I took the daily experiences that I had in would just continue to naturally film or photograph these incredible artifacts that was coming into contact with and then would just post that and talk about that and talk about them in a way that it's replicating what we do as curator's where we read these garments we look at the clues we look at the details to better understand the item and of course better understand the world we live within the world that they lived in and so it's been a real treat. I completely understand and it's really interesting. Actually we kind of have similar stories about how how he came to social media because with my address account I had just moved back from New York to New Mexico and my exposure to fashion history was is not existent at that time I was just brainstorming about how I was going to translate my passion and continue to explore fashion history in a way I'm somewhat remotely in the desert so that translated into the art of dress and it just kind of went from there but the importance of social media I just really can't be underscored enough and especially with someone like yourself that has access to this incredible history. You're not only making it interesting as you said said to. People who might not otherwise thought it was interesting but your social media is allowing you to make it accessible to really tens of thousands of people who don't necessarily have that option to go on a tour to the Museum of London or can't you know can't make it to London or wherever they are around the world. It's it's really incredible in so as you mentioned you recently went from working at a museum setting to that of an auction house and I would love to hear a little bit more about your job in the auction house. This would be a I burnt dressed well so yes. I have now been working at Hind men as we are now known <hes> we recently went through a rebranding so many people may recognize us more as Leslie Hind men auctioneers engineers and so we have been a successful auction house now for many decades and we are are in locations around the U._S. <hes> we deal with fine art. We deal with couture of course in luxury accessories. We have an Asian into parliament. <unk> furniture decorative arts the list continues really we are an auction house that handles most things inside the home home and for the Mature Department we have been successfully selling toward now for decades and I have been brought in to to expand that department <hes> as the company is going through <hes> a new chapter with the rebranding and so now now known as Heinemann or hind auctions and we are expanding in staff and also around the country and so so it is not too far of a stretch from the job that I have done for the past twenty five years and and I have always kept by on auction industry and specifically Leslie Heinberg and auctioneers because I we knew of the company I know the Leslie Hyman <hes> I know many people that work there when I was <hes> curator <hes> I would regularly receive their auction catalogs and would pay close attention to their very successful auctions in couture detour and luxury accessories and so I also kept my eye on them because I knew that eventually <hes> you know life changes and would I want to continue being a fashion curator in a museum after twenty five years and so I was always eager to see what value I might have <hes> outside of the museum industry could I work in a completely completely different fields and just trying to expand my horizons and keep my eyes open since that's another part of why we ventured into social media idea to make sure that I wasn't restrained by the jobs that I had of course as a curator you are given a great steal freedom but certain museums where I four Ted certain focus that meant I couldn't necessarily explore something very the difference in social media kind of gives me that play to focus on other things that I might not be able to do <hes> at in my professional role and so I really liked the fact that the auction industry allowed me to continue to be close to clothing man so while I could go onto another industry. There are a lot of opportunities that I had that dealt with fashion as image. I'm not necessarily fashion as artifacts or worked <hes> heavy on retail and so the auction industry. I found really quite compelling because what I do now. <hes> is <hes> a very similar process so as a curator I would search for exciting exciting artifacts that had interesting stories to tell and I or I would find those stories I would do the research chop them and pulled together storyline that I would present an exhibition or in a publication to attract people to you either come to the exhibit or to read my publications and so as a director of a couture department in an auction house. I now searched the country looking for interesting items of fashion history that I will use the he provenance or they're interesting <hes> history to attract people to buy and while I compiled exhibits I compile Ohio sales now with a preview. Actually that has a small exhibition which we will most definitely be doing more of end so there there are definitely things that I have had a steep learning curve <hes> recently but I've really enjoyed being in an industry street that I'm obviously familiar with because I've been around it. I'm very familiar with the fashion component in the identification of of an item the authentication indication fair market value all of those things come natural to me because of my work as a curator but I really enjoyed being in situations nations where I had no idea of how to answer the question in that's part of what I wanted in making this change is is to use what I know but Mary that with a new form of experience and so it's been six months since since I've been in the auction industry. I've had one <hes> successful <hes> sale. I've only had one sale it was successful <hes> and I travel around the United States searching through closets and storage units and museums uh-huh basements all sorts of places to pull together about four to six options per year on a variety variety of topics and heavily used social media to continue to present fun topics but <hes> I'm just like I did in the past presenting those topics in a way to attract people to come to my exhibits. I'm now doing that in the hopes that people will buy and where can people find information about upcoming auctions thank you we have <hes> a really beautiful website website that has just launched so it is. Hind Mun auctions <hes> you can find all of the <hes> catalogs along for the upcoming sales in a very beautiful design that we're very excited to just roll out in the last few days and the upcoming sales will always have a online digital catalog and so you can come to the website website for a lot of reasons but a lot of people come to our website to see the images the descriptions and of course to eventually leave leave a bid for the item and so for example for the ACA tour auctions. We will have images front back the detailed images condition information available for people to view but that's all under hyneman auctions dot com tim thank you so much for providing insight into your fascinating job and something actually. April that you know just a little bit about you are a US pap certified art appraiser Razer with a specialty and fashion and textiles. Can you share with us more about this program. I am sure that more than a few of our listeners will be quite interested interested as am. I yeah yes so I guess I've had that certification for about ten years now and I did a professional program at New York University and a an auction studies and yeah I happen to do the one that was an accelerated. I think it was like a three month long summer course but I think typically you the trajectory of that is part time for maybe two years but but yeah you once once you have taken all your specialty classes and you take like a government test which is called US pap certification and basically it's just a standardized test that ensures not only your competency and working and appraisals but also your knowledge of legal and ethical concerns in the appraisal market which is very very cool so if anybody's interested in that I'm sure you can can google it and check it out. I know there's programs around the world right yeah. I think the US PAP certification courses are actually offered all over the United States <unk> at different times during the year so those are out there. It's just that that's just the you taking the test. It's not the actual coursework that leads up to it well that does it for us us today dress listeners. May you consider acquiring your next vintage treasurer at auction next time you get dressed be sure and tune in this Tuesday for a full length episode. We love hearing from you so if you would like to you can do so at dressed iheartmedia dot com you can also direct messages on instagram at dressed underscore podcast where you will always find images accompanying each week's episode at dress underscored podcast is also our twitter handle and of course you can follow us on facebook address podcast without the underscore for additional readings for episodes. Please check out our show notes at dress PODCASTS DOT COM and don't forget about our merch store at t public dot com for slash dressed rest. That's T. E. PUBLIC DOT com forward slash dressed as always special thanks to producers Casey Pilgrim Ali fry and everyone else iheartradio <music> out the makes this show possible each week catch a Tuesday trust. The history of fashion is a production of iheartradio for more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong song. Where did they go right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts.

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How Does the Hippocampus Work?

BrainStuff

07:45 min | 1 year ago

How Does the Hippocampus Work?

"Today's episode is brought to you by the capital one venture card the capital one venture card you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday and you could use those miles toward travel expenses like flights hotels nls rental cars and more just book and pay for your travel using your venture card and redeem your miles toward the cost capital one. What's in your wallet? Credit approval required capital one bank U._S._A.. N._A. Welcome to brainstorm production of iheartradio. Hey brain stuff lauren vocal bomb here when the movie memento came out in the year two thousand audiences were stunned by the unusual story telling the film centered on a protagonist with no long term memory every few minutes hit forget what he had just learned and to help the audience empathize director Christopher Nolan had the story unfold in reverse chronological order it gave viewers the opportunity to piece together information the same way they would if they themselves couldn't retain long term memories in researchers have actually used this effect of this film to to deepen our overall understanding of memory mechanisms in the brain one of the study authors said in a statement memento simulates what it would feel like to be a person who who suffered damage to the hippocampus that is obliterated the formation of long term memories even short term memories last only a couple of minutes before they're gone. HIPPOCAMPAL has also gets damaged albeit to a lesser extent in cases of severe and Protracted Stress Stress Hormones Naw the brain brain nerds which honestly should probably probably be all of us may know that the Mikla plays a major role in controlling fear and these Sara Bellum makes coordinated movement possible but how does the hippocampus work and why does it play such a pivotal role in keeping our memories safe. We spoke with Psychiatrists Ellen Vora M._d.. She explained that the hippocampus is Quote part of our limbic brain deep primitive part of our brain. That's associated with emotion and memory. The hippocampus in particular is associated with consolidation of memory located in the temporal lobe. This tiny organ plays a massive role in the storage of long term memories and the memory of the location of people and objects. It's named the Greek words Hippo meaning horse and Campo meaning monster which is a word for seahorse because the structure curves around like a seahorse or horseshoe. We actually have to hippocampal structures one in each hemisphere of the brain though together they're generally referred to as the singular hippocampus and and yes the hippocampus resides in the LIMBIC system which is associated with emotions and reactions as you might expect people with Alzheimer's disease have demonstrated damage to the hippocampus us. The function of the hippocampus is perhaps most clear examples of patients who stained damage to bears in the nineteen fifties scientists William Beecher Scoville and Brenda Milner described what happened to a man with epilepsy who'd received surgery on his hippocampus in an effort to relieve the seizures he retained memories from his childhood but he couldn't form new memories or piece together when or where things happened that same decade Dr Williams Scoville began removing patients hippocampus at at the time scientists knew it helped process emotions but they weren't totally clear on how Scoville wanted to see what would happen if he removed part of the brain in patients exhibiting certain symptoms like seizures one such patient referred to as H.. M. Underwent the surgery and found relief from his epilepsy but a near total loss of memory in the nineteen eighties can't Cochran famously known in the psychology and neuroscience Schnur context experts later came to call these types of memories semantic memories so while patients like Casey could clearly keep a handful of memories memories intact most were lost recollections of personal experience are all pretty much a loss in the damage or removal of the hippocampus. These types of memories are now known own episode Nick Memory K._C.. For example could remember that his brother had gotten married and he could recognize family members and photos from that day. All facts is based in semantic memory but he couldn't remember his family reacting to the perm he had gotten for the occasion which is episodic memory over time. Scientists assists came to understand that the hippocampus is involved in two types of memory declarative and spatial declared memories are the ones associated with facts or events. <hes> semantic antic memory is considered one type of declared memory and episodic is another type. The hippocampus is also involved in spatial relationship memories the kind related to roots roots and pathways and it's also where short term memories are turned into long term memories which are then stored elsewhere in the brain different types of illness accidents can damage to the hippocampus doctors generally aren't removing the hippocampus for experimentation anymore like in the case of H.. M. Though Alzheimer's disease is perhaps the most notorious destroyer of the hippocampus as the condition has been correlated with atrophy or shrinking of that area of the brain as in the case of H.. M. Epilepsy is also known to affect the hippocampus studies have shown that between fifty to seventy five percent of patients with epilepsy have hippocampus damage to other serious threats adds to the hippocampus as mentioned above are severe depression and stress studies have demonstrated that the hippocampus can shrink up to twenty percent in people with severe depression and reviews views of studies found that people with severe depression may have hippocampal. They're an average of ten percent smaller than in those people without depression Vora said it's a part The brain that's very susceptible to stress. We see it lose volume under conditions of chronic stress and depression conversely. You can restore your hippocampus with meditation and Stress Management. Don't you want a healthy hippocampus so you can remember things. A Twenty Sixteen Review of studies found that exercise in old age may have the ability to help strengthen the hip acambis Camby's ability to generate new cells which could in turn help prevent cognitive decline. It's still unclear how and why this works but researchers are continuing to investigate connection twenty seventeen study also found the hippocampus may play a role in many more functions than memory and path finding the tiny. Oregon may also have a part heart in enhancing the responsiveness of vision touch and hearing thanks to the continued new findings some have begun referring to the hippocampus as the heart of the brain. The episode was written by Michelle Princeton to Nas key and produced by Tyler Clang with kind assistance from Dylan Fagin. Breen stuff is production of iheartradio's networks for born. This a mother brainy topics visit our home planet. How stuff works dot? com and for more podcasts from iheartradio. I heart radio <music> APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where did they go right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry. What have you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre affi listen unsubscribe on apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts.

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The Bastard Manifesto

Behind the Bastards

1:06:29 hr | 1 year ago

The Bastard Manifesto

"You Start Your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry. What have you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how do it. Where did they go wrong. Where did they go right and how can you rotarians and the possibilities of the human race and stuff <hes> so this is like a it's not a half ass but it's maybe in the room to tear me down if <hes> if what. I'm saying nonsense Anderson this abuse Anderson this'll be really fun. If your conclusions were actually I was being kind now I read about primarily dictators and terrible unethical political leaders and corporate leaders people who abuse power <hes> basically as well. That's actually totally fair <hes> but that introduction <hes> does tie in yeah slightly with with I I've become a stalinist. Oh God I just WanNa hear you refer to yourself. As a bit of a drama Queen Turns out this three quarters of an asked attempt at meet putting some of that together and explaining some of the conclusions I've drawn <hes> from all of this research and is a more than full time job and having done that for a year and Change Ya you start to have some ideas about the nature of power and the nature of authoritarianism. I'm an optimist. I'm not <hes> I'm not well. I don't know I am a mix of both I guess <hes> so today. Normally this is a show where I talk about the very worst people in all of history but today we're doing something a little bit different. We are getting very much behind the bastards because we're going into some prehistory about where authoritarianism Rian Ism comes from where fascism comes from how might be kind of programmed into our brains to an extent <hes> this is kind of a weird one and it's based on you and <hes> it's not ready for public consumption but I'm going to put it out there anyway because I'm a hack and a fraud so that's where we are. I've got <hes> Sophie Jamie. It was by the standards of my recent introductions one of the best ones I've done. I just don't like cracks against potatoes in the INTRO. People requested that Intro soapy. I don't need to hear your about it. I with today's episode <hes> so you know I I've Jamie Loftus your our guest today. How you doing Jamie Costa the Bechtel cast <hes> Edinburgh really optimistic for you to even mention twenty twenty two as a possibility as a time period that will exist well. I'm Hussein rant circle. SOBEVA and McCain leaves. I odd casts dickens caters. I'm Robert Evans hosted behind the bastards and that so I learned from Mary Kay and Ashley Everything's fine as long as long as you lie to your weight. Mary Kay <hes> the the creative mind behind boss whom is girl which is going to be an Edinburgh probably by the time. This episode drops entertaining show. I've been to in the <hes> in demand that they take her back like what happened. There Yeah Twenty twenty two west Yeah Yeah Yeah Force it upon the town fathers of Edinburgh the last ten years thanks Flight Edinburgh. I've seen times you should listen to this years. Later in Jimmy Hoffa's not in Edinburgh Flight Edinburgh sure I've just been a bit of a drama Queen and things are actually fine. He's like I just went binging Mary. Kay Nationally that's my new life as Home Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts kind of dramatic before power is actually really good and I'm going door for Cook Industries by by this this ends on a on a pro Saddam. I do want people's feedback but I don't need go Oakland <music> buddy buddy one isn't that what I thought is. Isn't that a parent trap he can actually not actually twins that's Double Bilo Hand Yeah and as I miss. Where was that Lindsay Lohan that wasn't even Medicaid National God damn it I <music>. I was too busy trying to remember exactly what had happened. In <hes> in that movie were they trick their parents into both getting on a cruise ship with them to make the divorced mom and dad get back hidden. Maybe a full ten seconds by being like I don't know who you're actually bring that up thinking about once a week. I bring it up constantly with sales people when they ask you why I think I tried to mention Arianna Guerande in casual conversation last year and you Wayne Agronomy see this is frustrating because I feel like if you if you add up the number of words that I read every week on this show I have above ninety nine percent pronunciation close to an outright dictatorship. The elections of Bolsonaro in Brazil and Rodrigo detail in the Philippines hardly bowed any better but the situation is actually even worse than authoritarianism and inequality in those societies. They found that roughly one billion more people live under dictatorships now than did fifteen years ago nineteen. Fukuyama theories have not aged well <hes> rather than living at the end of history. We now seem to be living through a period where these once invulnerable liberal democracies as a new epoch in human society was dawning one in which the great historical shifts between Empires and modes of government that had persisted for eons would cease because mankind had clearly economy and the leadership of some one hundred twenty nine nations the US put together what they called a transformation index that roughly analyzed the overall levels of freedom authoritarianism McCreevy's faster than fat beats a warehouse Rave. Thank you thank you for that. Jamie proud of that one in liberal democracy is the final form of human government so a bit of a bold claim to make <hes> a little less than thirty years later in the Year of our Lord Twenty not just the passing of a particular period of postwar history but the industry is such that is the point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universal ization of Western Essay into a book in Nineteen ninety-two after the fall of the U._S._S._R. When he looked like he'd basically read the future <hes> in the industry he wrote that humanity was witnessing quote not uh-huh or pronounce the name wrong. This actually will tie in with something we talk about later in the episode. I didn't plan that ahead of time and it totally does and I'm very genzyme not a dictatorship fan bold stance to take. I mean considering honestly brave of you. I mean we can add to that because I feel like our clearly arrived at the perfect system liberal democracy so that's Fukuyama is thinking and like nineteen eighty nine now. He turned his the INDIV- history looking forward just a little bit he was able to see the fall of the Soviet Union was on the very near horizon to Fukuyama and too many at the dawn of the nineteen nineties. It looked as proud of myself now so let's get into it in one thousand nine hundred and nine Francis Fukuyama a political scientist and author wrote an essay titled the My philosophizing here because I'm going to do an episode where I unload of a half baked philosophy. Somebody should be there to like point out. When I've made a huge logical error wild that's insane. Yes not a great statistic. I don't like that <hes>. That's my only comment. Knowledge Okay so fiennes arm under Viktor Orban's Hungary has transitioned to what he calls and Illiberal Democracy under tight oppressive Erdo gone. <hes> Turkey has moved very ernest. Why did you let us come on the show together. We're not GONNA get anything I needed. I needed some shit talking of my my. It looks based on all that researchers with a German Institute Bertelsmann Stiftung published a study back in March of two thousand eighteen than analyze the quality of democracy the market four point two billion between two thousand and three and two thousand seventeen. They also found that three point three billion people lived under dictatorship last year compared to two point three billion in two thousand three Robert can't pronounce normal words and give them the explanation that he can pronounce some crazy Russian ships but cannot pronounce Arianna. Let's see Asian rate. Someone crunched numbers. We're talking about ten thousand words a week. You know you get a couple wrong. Mistakes are okay now than where fifteen years ago I had a write up of this study in the local which is a German newspaper quote while the researchers concluded that the number of people living in democracies rose from four billion to literally throw oranges at me and make me watch cowboy movies while you drink. I've seen yeah absolutely I've seen it. One hundred percent I hate and I see it yeah cool so <hes> yeah so these guys look into the number of people living in dictatorships and how that's changed and they find out that there's a billion more people living under such regimes now you are. I mean if you wear my son and I accept you for who you are yeah except for when I don't WanNa watch cowboy movies yeah not acceptable then that's not acceptable okay but usually those are like tree. That's a look we I love tries and I pronounced relationship. Robert is a dictatorship and I am not tater. Yes uh-huh Direction. Nothing would surprise me and the like Stalin you regularly so the trends aren't good <hes> it is said that the number of countries classified as having exemplary standards of free and fair elections had dropped from one in six in two thousand six next to one in fourteen last year and while seventeen of one hundred twenty nine countries considered to have completely unrestricted freedom of press and opinion in two thousand six that was the case for just ten countries their world order would persist for all time and now that mankind seems to be sinking into a darker and more authoritarian era. A new philosopher has arrived to praise the righteousness. It's making it harder to climb back up the ladder. According to Peterson hierarchies in humans work in a similar way we are wired to live in them so that's Dr Peterson <music> for me. What would you say ninety. Two Francis Fukuyama was that man cheering the victors of the Cold War on and assuring them that in study shows the research this article and others like disgust was based on a study conducted by the National Institute of Mental Health Using F._M. aride measure the brain activity of seventy two people playing a computer game with financial rewards on the line. According to the press release quote there were assigned a status that they were told was based on their playing skill in fact the game outcomes were predetermined and by the other players simulated by computer participants intermittently saw pictures and scores of an inferior in a superior player they thought simultaneously playing the rooms although they knew the perceived receive player scores would not affect their own outcomes or award and were instructed to ignore them. Participants brain activity and behavior were highly influenced by their position in the implied hierarchy. Now I found a more detailed breakdown of that study by an actual scientist Dr Kobe's Kimani writing on anthropology dot net and he notes quote overall against source. I just don't like his. We've got other sources and yeah. Unfortunately we have other sources. <hes> there's a distressing amount of data that reinforces the idea that strict hierarchy may be more natural to humankind than the Galateri in future those of us who grew up watching star trek the next generation might prefer in two thousand eight extent according to a write up in the conversation quote to prove his point. Peterson uses the example of lobsters which humans share a common evolutionary ancestor with Peterson argues that like acumen lobsters exist in hierarchies and heavy nervous system attuned to status which runs on Serotonin a brain chemical often associated with feelings of happiness the higher up a hierarchy a lobster motives of others and emotion processing areas deep in the brain activated when the hierarchy became unstable allowing for upward mobility that it is the prefrontal cortex also ties into authoritarianism because in his best selling book twelve rules for life and antidote to chaos Dr Peterson argues that strict hierarchies are natural and healthy at least to some in every era there are philosophers purpose seems to be to reinforce in the minds of the great and good that whatever systems put them in their lofty place right and decent perfect that someone say Latina base it climbs. This brain mechanism helps to more serotonin available the more defeat it suffers the more restricted the serotonin supply lower. Serotonin is intern associated with more negative emotions. Perhaps unquote an area near the front of the brain that appears to size people up making interpersonal judgments in assessing social status a circuit involving the mid front part of the brain that processes the intentions in most motives eight a scientific study and hierarchy in the human brain started making the rounds online websites like P._B._S. Newshour summarize it with headlines like this social status is hard wired into the brain really a trap saw. I'll you know like lure in like sword guys and option mark Zuckerberg yeah exactly like Eric in brain functions are reduced to something as simple as gaining money another interesting observation involved subjects that were presented a superior competitor in the game when that happened at triggered activity and as much as I may personally find him frustrating disagreeable. He's not the only person making arguments like this have an ugliest person second overall. This observation implies that social status is highly valued in our subconscious minds. Even as much is money. The press is gorging itself on the sound bite. They just love it when something is complex social hierarchy entries last year so we're not we're not on a great trend line. If you want to look at history that way now the guys who owned swords and then it's really kind of like a reeducation kind of thing and the doors snap and then I teach this guy's a thing or two about a thing or two H. snus of this shift his name is Dr Jordan Peterson. Hey own while I was having a perfectly lovely conversation robbery. We were having conversation while two and then they they leave mentally healthier. I can respect that back to Jordan. Peterson speaking sword guys he kinda ties in there but he also like it would be mostly. I don't even know not not a very good consumer words so yeah I would shop for okay. No it's supposed to be a shop at it's actually how would you solve all sorts of Shit. I mean it would be and also none of it would be it would be. I think probably a front for something else. You were talking. I got the Jordan Peterson memo and I just had a sharp pain but before we get into that sharp pain. What would what would what would you sell. The lofty place shows that our brains hierarchical consciousness seems to be ingrained in the human brain so much so that there are distinct circuits activated by concerns over social rank so like so like what is the Judgy Bitch Cortex so call us Spain Dr Come Ronnie goes on to write these results to thwart in a utopian anarchists out there this data primate ancestors or at least many of our primate ancestors would have been beings with strict social hierarchies scientists think this is plausible because many of our modern ape and monkey relatives show evidence of this specifically like maybe led to think about their rank in a hierarchy and they're also measuring their brains at the same time and they're finding that like because we sort of evolved with this this like structures in our brain that kind of function the same way as like an addiction to hierarchy and at some point in our past we got <hes> ancestors <hes> which kind of suggests that tens of thousands of years in our past at some point you know we've -Tarian communities which is the conclusion that scientists increasingly make as study ancient man in modern hunter gatherers who sort of are seen as kind of a standing for our ascended from would have behaved in similar ways which is probably why we have brains that are to some extent hardwired for hierarchy <hes> now this gets because of the way the people's brains react in these studies suggest that parts of our brains are hard-wired <hes> to view ourselves in part of a social hierarchy <hes> <hes> as opposed to like human beings inherently being a gala -Tarian and social hierarchy being something that's falsely imposed on us from outside like the structure of our brain has to gibbons are strictly monogamous chimpanzees have elaborate sexual hierarchies silverback gorillas don't exactly work out their differences in mutual self criticism sessions but it is kind of a bummer to read stuff like that <hes> because it yeah it it would seem to push the conclusion that we are to some extent at least irrevocably more complicated when you also slot in the fact that an increasing body of anthropological research suggests that many of our hunter gatherer ancestors would have lived in a gala sort of strain of research and there's a couple of other studies in it that talk about <hes> hierarchy and stuff so it's not. I'm not trying to visit present. This is like the end all be all <hes>. I'm trying not to be too absolutist with anything here but I think it's fair to say based on a lot of anthropological research that many of the pre human primates we descended revocable chained to hierarchy systems of inequality in other words to a world dominated by bastards and while that would mean eternal job security for Sophie and I. It's not not a worry that a world that I want to live in particularly so I did a little bit deeper with a little bit of desperation to it <hes> and I found evidence to suggest that our futures writing for the Journal of Human Nature published the results of a study into a sample of fifty three human society in which Paulie Andrus unions were common <hes> quotes. Is it going over it for a period of thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago yeah yeah that's interesting to me and two thousand twelve researchers group that he did yeah this one. I think is seventy. Two persons study this most recent one here <hes> but there's like this. This is like sort of emblematic of one sort Mary. Perspective our analysis reveals that it may be predictable response. Okay here's the thing it's a predictable response to a high operational sex ratio favoring. That's not what it is it because men in ancient societies would have died so often. It didn't make sense for people to be strictly monogamous so you should if you're going to have men dying at a higher rate. Because what kind of a study is this like how many it's an F. M._R._I. Studies so they're doing these sort of things to try to make put people in situations where they would be specifically. Is there out hunting stuff. It makes sense. If everyone in the tribe raises all of the kids and if people don't have strong bonds of monogamy. That's what they're saying. <hes> ancient people weren't polly going here. Robert. I this is a little bit but not for the most parts Robert Sneaky Bat is just a little little bit just a little bit life yeah now we demonstrate that although polly Andrey is rare it is not as rare as commonly believed is favoring males and may also be a response to high rates of male mortality and possibly male absentees Ovalles in other words to live longer it makes no no no is found worldwide and as in most common Galateri and societies we also argue that Paulie Andris lightning during early human history and should be examined from an evolutionary seems to reinforce hierarchy and doing is they're like oh a are we pulling a wide group of yeah sample damp samples if this is just one study <hes> but there are other studies that have found similar things say the sample size of the group the Andrus because they were making an ethical choice about it being more ethical than monogamy. It's just if there's one hundred and fifty of you and your tribe and people are dropping all the time 'cause they're out fucking can hunting wolves and shit. It doesn't make sense to like have her his your. Her husband died so now her kids don't get food like that's not a great way to if there's not clearly a lot of Latin American tribal societies is they have these beliefs about sperm that once a woman gets pregnant every guy she has sex with after the pregnancy ignores that there are a lot of monogamous species as well so it's it's entirely possible that like we descend more from monogamous types of primates than we do from pollyannas types of primates and makes sense to me because like I'm poly-amorous and I'm I'm familiar with a lot of frustrating people in that community who will make claims that like Oh. It's more natural <hes> it's more ethical because and if that's the case then this period of time in which most human beings were poly-amorous isn't a return to wasn't like natural for them. It was something that they evolved in here. Is that if we're talking about like this book sex at dawn which is really interesting book focuses a lot on one of the pollyannas species of monkeys Bonobos but which just fits right into what we're talking about. Oh God Damn Cook Industries Fuck Fox News right yeah right book like monkeys. He's thanks to Dick Pills. Let's what do Tinder Ben started contribute sperm that helps build the child and so kids have multiple fathers in the tribe and that means that like if two or three of them died. He's still got three or world that they lived in. That's fine yeah. It's it's when it's just something to tweet about. I love when I see my poly-amorous friends and I and <hes> connick business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells what I'm getting to hear it point than Paulie Andrew Robert. You know what else can increase your chances of survival. You episodes each week. Listen end subscribe on Apple podcasts the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts we're back and I'm <hes> I. They asked me how my monogamous relationship is going and I'm like Oh. It's good and they're like well well. You're missing out over here in as gesture that men and women in pre agricultural human societies likely lived in relative equality Mark Dibble lead author and the study said sexual equality is one of the important changes that distinguishes extinguishes humans. It hasn't really been highlighted before so again. This guy saying this is a change it was. It's not a thing that came naturally to us something that we adapted to for specific benefits of my career. I've interacted with interviewed and reported on thousands of businesses. I've seen bright beginnings that fizzled out and rocky starts that turned into shining stars so has our ancestors did it and it's important that our ancestors to the extent that they were polly. Andress didn't do it for ethical reasons. They did it because it made logical sense for the that many of you. You just can't live that way. You GotTa Stay Harney. Stay frothy all the time yeah or it's more that like <hes> like one of the things that's really common in particularly. Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where did they go right. And how can you start your own iconic. We're talking sugar. Daddy Culture in which case has many daddy's well. I think you guys and your reaction. When I started talking about. Poly Andris does make and William Fargo. I'm Dana very host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti. I'm a former. Tech EXEC turned serial entrepreneur turned T._v. and radio host and over the course of continuing to build to my larger point which is going to keep going on so there is a two thousand fifteen study by the University College of London <hes> which put forward the suggestion as I okay gang. Let's just play the board game this France just wallace backfill of each other and the other thing that is important moved to do in no more natural than like a cell phone and like a cell phone was essentially like an adaptation people developed over time in order to increase the odds of survival which is okay so these two studies are part of an surprisingly large to me pretty convincing body of research which makes the case both at the now standard nuclear family has not been the join me and my producer new Guy Nick as we dive into the decisions that led to greatness and the regular people who were able to spin straw into gold bizarre. We'll have new object. I've never found more daddy's to be. I'd effective. I don't need there to be like girls that have or boys that have like more than one dad and he's almost facilities. GonNa break absurd. Damn okay they will especially if it's Dick Pills which for dads and like they're all responsible for teaching the kids certain things I've which is a really logical way to have a society. If there's if you're a hunter gatherer tribe it makes sense. I sat logic just for reasons of the kind of sexual bonds people had. I'm going to quote from Guardian Report on the matter. The first real splash in this arena came from the anthropologist Lewis Morgan and his book ancient society norm for much of human history and that human society in the days when life was nasty brutish and short was also a lot more equal less exploitative than it does today not forty percent of murderers get away with their crimes and I probably don't need to point out to this audience that the number of rapists who don't punished for their crimes is way higher than forty percent. A quality is enforced and that's the key part here enforced in our society rules are enforced unevenly an imperfectly by law when there's hundreds of millions of you and there's way more food than everyone needs to eat and the margins of survival for our social groups are pretty wide common sixty still really old then but people aren't. It's not the norm to die at thirty. It's the norm to dice baby day like I mean thirty based on poly-amorous relationships in which men and women lived in general equality Morgan's work hit a broader audience when it was taken up by Friedrich Engels most famous for being the CO author of the Communist Manifesto in his book the origin of family private property in the state ingels drew on Morgan's data as well as evidence from around the world to argue prehistoric societies lived in what he called primitive communism enforcement of varying stripes but we all accept that most of the things we consider crimes will not be punished. Most drug users won't be busted. Most men who beat their wives won't go to jail roughly forty awesome other anthropologists now call this fierce egalitarianism societies where families were based on poly-amorous in which in which people lived in active equality. I E in which the margins of life and death were much thinner. Their tribes could not survive people stealing food from each other or committing multiple murders. This is one of the reasons why some scientists primitive hunter gatherer humans however lived in small bands of several dozen to perhaps a hundred and fifty or so at the large end of things they lived in a world and a time in <hes> although there would not have been a lot of bastards back then because society's couldn't survive them which is the point on building too so yeah <hes> <music> so ancient tribal people had a huge number of what are called leveling mechanisms. That's the the anthropological term to defend themselves against dangerous members of the group ear on a fucking role in terms of being alive. Yes you're probably a pretty tough son of a bitch. If you make it to thirty in that kind of world or daughter of a bastard <hes> the suspect poly-amorous was so common among humans in this period <hes> or did they miss it. Did you say the average life span around this time unconnected world but the rhythms of their lives tactics of their societies are seen by anthropologists as sort of a window into the human past <hes> studying them is not a perfect look at our ancestors. Lee is a Canadian anthropologist who has spent a huge amount of time living with and studying and writing about modern hunter gatherer peoples like the and the Juhani both of which I'm group and this is where I get to tell you guys one of my very very very very very favorite stories. Have you ever heard of the shaming of the meat. No I ah we're gotta so we can understand that and that's you can you can you can have a society that more or less functions with those statistics in the book. Morgan presented the results of his study of the Iroquois a native American Hunter Gatherer Society in upstate New York the Iroquois Morgan observed lived in large family units based with Christmas and out of a sense of festivity in a desire to express his gratitude towards the tribe for hosting him Richard. Lee bought a gigantic ox to present them so that everybody could have a sweet sisters but it's about as good as we can get in the nineteen seventies. Richard spent time living with the ECON and near the end of this period embedded with them. It just happened to coincide. That's not a super useful statistic because of infant mortality like one of the mistakes. A lot of people make when they think about the past is like the average life span was thirty five that means that thirty year old man no if you make it to thirty you're probably gonNA live to fifty or sixty at least and seventy wouldn't even be crazy. It's just that so many fucking babies die in back then that it drops the average a lot that you wrote about this experience which is a basically an article titled Eating Christmas in the Kalahari which you can find online. It'll be in the source. It's a great read quote. The next like this is fucking awesome. I made this is going to be a great. Gift is a great way to show my gratitude to them. They're gonNA love this shit so I'm going to quote now from what he sweet ass feast now the oxy picked weighed twelve hundred pounds which meant that it was enough meat for every man woman and child among the tribes with to get like four pounds of meat so he's you do a lot more sense yeah yeah. It's not at all weird for people who make it to thirty to live to like sixty even back then you know maybe fifty would be a lot more common. I'm sure I've mispronounced the names of the you have to do like a weird. I can't I just am I gonNA be able to be there. The people <hes> these are people who exist today in our modern. I heard about it nothing to do with sex it has something to do with gender but nothing to do with sex all right whatever Richard Borsch a noon I received the first delegation been a- An outspoken sixty year old mother of five came to the point slowly. Where were you planning to eat Christmas right here. I replied alone next morning. Word spread among the people that the big solid black one was <hes> was the ox chosen by my Bushman name. It means roughly Whitey for the Christmas feast that afternoon is to believe it until we heard it from yourself well. It's the black one. I replied expansively although wondering what she was driving at Oh no bene- groaned turning to her group. They were right turning turning back to me she asked. Do you expect us to eat that bag of bones bag of bones. It's the biggest ox here big yes but old and thin. Everybody knows there's no meat on that ocean every use of a sense of humor or at least one of them. If being good at <hes> insults is just not attacking someone. I'm a you know fucking to attack them without physically fighting and getting into a physical battle where people die in her injured so that sort of the theory that like maybe this is kind of the evolutionary. Samarai won't yeah I mean there's a reason why in so many cultures around the world like it's pretty common for people's Apple's grandma's to be like both kind of in charge of the family and also talking shit about everybody all the time now there are some scientists who theorized that sarcasm and humor itself in human culture as a leveling mechanism as a way to cool the hearts of refuse one who boasts for someday pride will make him kill somebody so we always speak of his meat is worthless this way we cool his heart and make him gentle so this is is like the meat version of like humility yeah. This is how you enforce humility among Hunter Gatherer tribe. This is how you attack and and eventually some of his good friends among the tribe explained to him that this was common behavior particularly from other members of the tribe towards their young hunters. You just make fun of people for the Shitty. You keep harping on him. Dozens and dozens of like everyone in the tribe is making fun of him for days about this so he starts to get frustrated and even angry. This goes on yes. When a young man kills much meat he comes to think of himself as a chief or a big man and he thinks of the rest of us as his servants or inferiors. We can't accept this we tomorrow after he has gone to all that trouble to track and kill an animal and when he is going to share the meet with you so that your children will have something to eat. Arrogance was his cryptic answer arrogance a hug. I think it really speaks to your point and also fuck that shirt and anyone that's ever worn it. It's gotten out of hand in the modern era but we can fight the male ego when you can't afford to let it go out of control. He gets to do in our society. Wow yeah yeah that's kind of beautiful. I mean yes. You'RE GONNA fucking. You're GONNA fuck it. Love it great over the next several days. Tribesmen and women and children would make repeated mocking against it on the way down. This is kind of Jerry. I any means necessary. I like really Texas. This story is Robert. Wow all sort of dude what you'd expect from an anthropologist who spent his whole life like living among different tribal groups around the world started meet story frustrate they the initial purpose is to allow us to for deadpool. 'cause like humor is making fun of somebody insulting. Somebody is a way mocking jibes to Richard about the scrawny size of the enormous ox that he'd bought them. No I don't know leave but reading his writing you get the feeling he's a very openminded Fridley in a hard to rattle arrogant young men before they went mad with power so that's why we have humor pulls away to why we have deadpool as aling things have gotten mutated shadiness of whatever they want. Regardless of how big is when it's time to like help them clean and cook it so in frustration and confusion. Lee asked one of his friends. Why insult <hes> sarcasm is what what a what a dark to go down the other day said sarcasm? It's how at owner with others I expect to invite all the people to eat Christmas with me. Eat what I have purchased. You have as blackhawks and I am going to slaughter and cook it. That's what we were told at the well but refuse. It is also funny that it's like okay. How do we get through to the men. It's like okay. Let's just rob immoral and a bunch of meat and maybe they won't tasted talks. What did you expect us to eat off the horns. Everybody chuckled. It been as one liner as they walk away but all I could manage was a week grin you wondering where this is going mean. You like to text me all the time telling me that you're embarrassed by your gender which I just wanted to bring up for. No reason I get frustrated a lot. That's nice. I mean I do think see where it started. Yeah Robert. The mistakes are made. I guess mistakes so there's there's a body of scientific research. That suggests possessing power impacts the brain in manners similar to brain damage <hes> docker feltner psychology professor at U._C. Berkeley is one of the scientists scientists on the forefront of this field of study from the Atlantic quote subjects under the influence of power he found in study spanning two decades acted as if they had suffered a traumatic brain injury becoming that power was bad for people and it made them more dangerous to themselves and others and that they needed to be like egalitarianism was hunter. Gatherers seems to support at least the conclusion that a lot of people who live on like traditional more hunter gatherer societies kind of understood then again not an ethical decision. It's a defensive reaction to the dangers of power so I find that interesting. I Yeah a world in which Donald Trump never had twitter but also still got elected president. My suspicion is that he'd suck less like power. Priming studies have real flaws when we try to apply their lessons outside of a research context but I think the lived experience of the echo and other getting to observe it and having people volunteer that information to you is fascinating. I I suspect I don't know this but like if we can imagine you can just see in real time the brain rot forming with like over famous people yeah yeah. I mean just like influential people who have too much money share the work of an artist you like you should add their name to it. He'd been like Oh yeah of course that makes total sense yeah but because of the way social media works describe something similar unlike Keller who studies behaviors opie studies brains in when he put the heads of the powerful and the not-so-powerful under a trans cranial magnetic stimulation machine he favor during the election and then his presidency. It's just like a giant yeah yeah. You're welcome for that sound effect this research in the extent to which you can tell us anything about the real world event an interesting eurosceptic article that points out that power priming which the kind of studies that were conducted to get these results extremely interesting as you can see the rot on the edges of their brain and like even like trump aside. There's there's so many examples of just like you yeah that that definitely <hes> tracks with a lot of that's part of what I do think that like powerful people using social media is so he found that power in fact impairs the specific neural process mirroring that may be a cornerstone of empathy now before we take too much out of this. There's a lot of debate about the validity of organization or more natural healthier than the supremely hierarchical societies we live in today but I tend to think the evolution of leveling mechanisms like the shaming of the meat <music> suggests kind of the opposite well at least not about the healthy thing but about it being natural hierarchy is natural for human beings. It's something our brains slide into without careful. I've seen recently as Elon Musk's crusade against crediting artists which is like if you had sat down with him if he'd never gotten on twitter and you just sat down with me like Oh if you coming more impulsive less risk aware in crucially less adept at seeing things from other people's point of view <hes> Soup Vendor O._B. neuroscientist Master University in Ontario recently Rangers Power and this presents perhaps a less utopian view of man's inherent nature but I think it also posits a more optimistic picture of our future because of Homo Sapiens beat vigilence our ancestors were not Galateri in because it felt natural they evolved to enforce egalitarian as and with great vigilance as a defense mechanism against the dangers. It is yeah like an seeing and I'm sure that that's an extension of things that have been going on since the beginning of time but like actually eight the problems of ingrained hierarchy once then we can fucking well do it again true that yeah thank you and that leads pretty naturally to my next question so there's a tendency in progressive thought and it's something that I fight against a lot to look at groups like the Iroquois and other research into our military ancestors and make the point that such forms of social money for your own good like you can social media influencers you corrosion welfare chaotic evil. I don't even include them but like I think the best example of that <unk>. Somebody says that on twitter and he just immediately attacks them. It's like this. Why are you having this fight. Elon musk his entire online presence like back to my <hes> my theory here still building towards there's a lot <hes> like I'm taking you on the journey of just shit. I've been thinking about for the last year and a half they without know yeah never with that twitter but yeah. I I think it's been bad for him. Yeah I think his favor it should be. There should be a thesis paper on it because it's like you. You can just see his brain turning to dust after his kind of like the pattern. My brain has brain. Ri- yeah as best as I can recreate my brain rot. That's what we're tour in. Our ancestors once lived free fucking gala -Tarian lives sleeping under the stars probably taking Hella Mushrooms and not enforcing strict gender hierarchy Louis what went wrong well. How did we go from all that to the last you know ten thousand years or whatever of human history which you know has kind of been <music> outright dominance at the group level argues aunt argue anthropologist. Peter Richardson and Robert Boyd Improved Coordination and Division of Labor allowed more complex societies to outcompete the simpler to drop the ball yet again and be like what do you mean. I said Provia Robert. Thank you brought up. They're more equal societies from mechanistic perspective. Others argued that once inequality took hold as when uneven resource distribution benefited one family more than others. It simply became casts. We're back so we're talking about. Why this egalitarian one thousand nine hundred and nine listen to hell and gone that's h. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts awesome he notes inequality did not spread because it is a better system for our survival so why then did inequality eat the world well. That's a question that's gala -Tarian you know of the human race that seems to have existed at a point in the distant past what made it fall apart <hes> and I found a good by dint of their evolutionary success but this thinking has continued to evolve in the twentieth century according to Deborah Rogers quote by the Mid Twentieth Century get a lot of emails co- case all the time and usually when I look at a story I can tell in the first five minutes with probably happened but this when troll resources and needed to venture ever further afield to seek them out this expansion bread conflict conquest with a concord becoming the underclass the more recent explanations have expanded <music> been posed by a number of histories great thinkers Jean Jacques Rousseau theorized in seventeen fifty four that inequality started with the idea of private property social darwinist. It's hierarchies of our primate ancestors was quote central adaptation of human evolution bone thinks we would not have spread across the world without the adaptation of Egalitarian it on these ideas one line of reasoning suggests that self aggrandizing individuals who lived in lands of plenty ascended the social ranks by exploiting their surplus. I threw feast or gift giving and later by entry in theory began to dominate anthropologist including Julian Stuart Leslie White and Robert Carneiro. <hes> offered a slightly different versions of the following story population growth. We needed right up on this subject. In New Scientist Magazine <hes> by a researcher named Deborah Rogers she cites social anthropologist Christopher Boehm who believes the suppression of the dominance ever-more entrenched the advent of agriculture and trade resulted in private property inheritance in larger trade networks which perpetuated and compounded economic advantages so it's we've got a sheriff's Office James Dan no explanation. Janey Ward was sixteen years old when she died under mysterious circumstances. It's like when you're in college and you have to do a group project and you have some people that are either like not available or like order would be today. I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie. Ward on September nine in the eighteen hundreds thought that inequality was the inevitable result of the struggle of survival of the fittest will in which the more fit in almost inevitably white people formed a natural aristocracy shit show but but is not a shit show shit the products and services that support the show I was I was about she was at a party at a cabin in the woods in the small town of Marshall Arkansas story that fell off my door mm-hmm. I'm Katherine Townsend host of the true crime podcast Helen going in an hour's asking people what's wrong what's wrong and more food so he turned to agriculture which led to surplus and the need for managers and specialized roles which in turn lead to corresponding social classes meanwhile we begin to use up natural bad or of any of the people that are busy bodies and want to do everything <hes> and then you have the people that you know have this special shooter so they know how to do everything because they have or it's like college and that the people who didn't go wound up without tens of thousands of dollars in debt so wind up a lot have help and then you people get a better grade and then things people get jaws people. Don't it's like college psychology. She's a group college. You leave leave sad and and your mayor probably are not getting a job in the thing you studied lot wealthier again the thing so they benefit from the fruits of labour of others and then the higher okay natural order of things but more like a virus one that was forcibly beaten down almost wiped out for thousands of years but persisted in some isolated corners until the development of agriculture <music>. It's college. It's like college now. If we find this new school of thought credible hierarchy authoritarianism itself seem not like the natural toward hierarchy in authoritarianism program into our brains and for a long time we fought in these tiny societies but once we started building these larger societies it sort of escapes. I've never heard that comparison before. We talk about veracity a lot when we talk about ideas but yeah I I think of looking at authoritarianism verily <hes> and kind of runs wild. It's almost like how measles was nearly wiped out by vaccines until enough dumb people stopped vaccinating their kids that it was able to spread and get a toehold again authoritarianism hit its peak. It's probably more apt to say that it ebbed and flowed in different places across distance and time and every now and then individuals societies would evolve like ancient Athens or the Jessica Biel thank you some people might argue that hierarchy authoritarianism and Jessica Biel make for feels more like this comparison. I keep making to a virus because like the way viruses spread. They're not <hes> viruses aren't sustainable. They're not stable they stronger and more competitive societies and that's why he's right across the globe that's certainly an arguable point. Deborah Rogers family wealth and so had to go make their fortune elsewhere so like this seems like a really strongly arguable point to me and it also it also they need to continually like destroy populations of of living things and need to spread to new populations in order to stay alive so like I think era Quoi who established cultures that were more egalitarian than those around them but in a global sense strict hierarchy authoritarian means of rule where the order of the day for the of the Europeans who sailed to the new world as they called it <hes> were there were a lot of second and third and fourth sons of wealthier families who like weren't going to inherit the family other researchers however have found in their research some data that would seem to argue against that point quote in a demographic simulation that own car dish Bondi Marcus Feldman cadmium dictatorship right yeah so <hes> obviously like you know we could try to like argue at which points in history. He's exactly what we see. As we look back in history in other words inequality did not spread from group to group because it is an inherently better system for survival but because it creates demographic authoress -Tarian ISM comparing it to virus. I think there's a lot of <hes> <hes> I mean. It's a useful way to look at it. <hes> yeah yeah so it's it's kind of where the yeah you don't really hear like. Social movements are trends ever referred to as a virus. I I've group extinction in stable environments. This was true whether we modeled inequality as a multi tiered class society or would economists call a PARETO wealth distribution in which as with the one percent as the rules in our simulation not allow for migration to already occupied locations but it was clear that this would have happened in the Real World Leena conquest of the more stable egalitarian societies the majority of people across the last several thousand years and again. I'm I'm going to oversimplify here because I'm not a historian and like this is not a historic like an unacademic paper but I think it's fair to say broadly that the last eight hundred years or so have seen a major push back towards gala -Tarian. ISM and against authoritarian means of control the minute I conducted at Stanford University California. We found that rather than imparting advantages to the group unequal access to resources inherently stabilizing in greatly raises the chance of group the rich get the lion's share Kenner intuitively the fact that inequality was so to stabilize and caused the societies to spread by creating an incentive to migrate in search of further resources ethic instability which drives migration and conflict in leads to the cultural or physical extinction of gala -tarian societies and it's interesting if you look into like who a lot in the evolution into larger more organized societies provided with a chance to escape and replicate on a mass scale once more so we always had these sort of tendencies toward all across the globe and if you're going to pick an arbitrary start point for this you might choose the signing of the Magna Carta in June of Twelve fifteen and there would be a variety of other dates that would be important can't there yup and my dates picked are very western centric because I don't know much about like Chinese history Japanese history but you know I think nineteen seventeen the Russian <hes> can spread much like me. I'm of a cat. Yes it does it spreads just like a cat meme. Yeah Fascist dictatorships spread like a cat gordon seventy seventeen seventy six <hes> like eighteen sixty five nineteen really patriotic for a second revolution would be another point in that <hes> and of course nineteen forty five would be another big moments in the sort of <hes> eight hundred year or so push back back against authoritarianism <hes> and if we're going to keep rolling with my viral authoritarianism analogy we might look at the global defeat of the Axis in World War Two is equivalent authoritarian regime changes in Latin America to the Anti Vaccine Like Jessica Biel. <hes> people who saw socialism yeah so Jessica Biel in Allen Dulles at the same here is in its molecular and supple segment Taraji with flows capable of fusing every cell what makes fascism dangerous is it's molecular or micro political from places like Guatemala and El Salvador will the U._S. supported and trained death squads and assassinated democratically elected leaders <hes> you could also make a point about our failure to intervene intervene in Syria all the refugees who fled from Bouchara Assads fascistic campaign of extermination and how that fueled the fire reiten Europe and in the United States <hes> such a narcissist with a podcast <hes> but instead he fucking he's become a dictatorship. You must put your Shane my meat fucking guy. Yeah I would read that piece on medium dot com. Thank you thank you medium. Dot Com is where he would put this if I weren't in similar to this when I was doing my final research for the war on everyone the audiobook that I swear is coming out soon <hes> reading it. It's being edited yeah. It's <hes> yeah it's <hes>. Fascism isn't something that's imposed from the top down. It's something that bubbles up from within groups of human beings and if you're going to stop it requires. I don't know <hes> I came across the study of how fascists we're using the Internet back in the late nineties and early two thousand to keep their movement alive. The study study was written yeah so you've got like this <hes> so yeah the last several decades of creeping authoritarianism <hes> in our own society have been driven in large part by the fact that decades of American K. border patrols in the nineteen seventies ending with concentration camps in Texas and Donald Trump in the White House now. I'm not the only person thinking along line <hes> so the plight of those refugees and their decision to flee the safety of the U._S. has invigorated a right wing movement that is stronger and more dangerous over the decades starting with K._K._k. Erkin leaders have supported dictators and strong across places like Latin America the crisis of the border which provided such feel to the American right has been driven largely by refugees fleeing from political power for it is a mass movement of cancerous body rather than to tallaght -tarian organism yeah all argument to the one I've been making albeit with a slightly different analogy quote delusion guitar argue that part of the Nature Fascism is a proliferation of molecular luke focuses in interaction which skipped from point to point before beginning to resonate together this comment might well have been made about the lateral connectedness found in cyberspace rather than Tari and I don't pretend to understand the overall thrust of the text because I am so bad at reading political theory but black sites a piece of that book that seems to be making a similar argument than Sing Fascism enshrined in a -tarian bureaucracy the argue that fascism was in his manifest in the micro organization of everyday life the power of fascist culture being edited right now by the Audio people so Danell Yeah. It is coming out. I came across a hey Danell. This actually might be up at the time people listen to this episode. I I'm calling H._R. Face <hes> Anderson up by a researcher named less black and in it he cites a book called a thousand plateaus capitalism and schizophrenia from nineteen eighty six now the book was written by a pair philosophers delus- and guitarist here's constant vigilance like the vigilance of say a group of ECON who make sure to keep an eye out for a young man who gets too big of an idea of his own importance because brought down a fucking gazelle. It presented your worldviews various. This was like Roberts ideology on life more or less I didn't I only had so much time to get cutters comprehensive. That is a little bit of it so like one one lesson we can take out oh and like a virus can move and change and go away but young comeback. I mean you can you can basically erase the metaphor at that point went to AMAC's backs and mass vaccination campaign <hes> and if we want to extend the analogy even further we can compare people like C._I._A. Director Allen Dulles in his pin shot for authoritarian. It's like how like fascism spreading like a virus now because it's spreading like a virus in the Internet sense to like it is truly one in the same. I okay so so Robert <hes> how do how we fix it yeah. Oh and the answers will you know right. I really WanNa comment on that. I think it's it's deep yeah yeah anyway. That's what I got so far in our daily lives. It's something we fight not just by keeping an eye out on other people but by fighting the fascists within our own self by fighting like those authoritarian out of human prehistory in terms of how we fight fascism is that it's not something we fight by voting for the right person. It's something we fight on a day to day basis and persist in if there isn't discipline at every level of society to watch against it it will come back terrifying okay so so <hes> the calls coming from inside the House the whole time call the fascism has been coming from inside your brain this old time yeah okay good cake by bolt cutters the presidential then I'd be really excited about some of the people who have been in trump's cabinet because I would love to see Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon fighting with homemade. It's incredible. It's one tool that you can use against ashes. Pull your brain out. I think that really a good answer yeah. If we just adjudge bitch I try not to be but I will admit that I think when Kurt Vonnegut was a judgy bit. She was right to be judgy bitch. I mean yeah choose your moment's. It's like a thorough -Tarian Azam. It's not always the wrong fit like we have it like. It's useful in certain situations. <hes> you know if you've got well if you've got like a wildfire being smart is not worth it. I don't happen to hold of that idea but I'm willing to admit that Kurt Vonnegut was way smarter than I will ever be. He might have been right so it's I <hes> I. I don't think it's useful nearly as often as we use it but it's not useless elements but it has to be carefully controlled yeah okay yeah so like maybe if we're going to keep having presidents we execute every president after they finish their term of office and that way only people who are truly selfless into the void the hunger games if you're just killing the person at the top true true true still not still not <hes>. I've always seen Jahnke out the judgy bitch cortex from our brain aging tatters. That's you're pretty close to some things. Kurt vonnegut was theorizing about stint. There are certain kinds of hierarchy that you want in a military like our podcast like our podcast or like that's about it <hes> yeah I. I don't have more detailed solutions than that but <hes> the where my thinkings gone in the last eighteen months. Let's I'm cops. Yeah I mean constant suppression of the Judgy Bitch within is necessary. I keep up yeah caper taming base level. I haven't revisited that phase of Kurt vonnegut in a wild but sounds fun. You wouldn't agree with that because you are not keeper locked up until necessary yeah but there are moments where it's like oh there. She is just coming out where in that outfit sometimes right in doing that superheroes. The takeaways are dire but yeah. I've never heard it puts a simply like that well. I don't know if I'd call it succinctly. Evan talking fire. You need one person being like okay. You go here you go here. You go here like this is what we're going to try to do like our podcast like our podcast or like a military unit where to some extent homemade spears over a pit of lava blast that would be the fucking great scared petitioner would hide the whole time and then somehow win with a high in answer so of doing this podcast now you you all have to deal with it to sorry. I think it's good I think pull not the the got some game children. It's like members of the cabinet sick love it great now that would be amazing if at the end of for fifty nine minutes or so but I did my best. It was only one heart yeah. It was only one part only one part well. I would not about near the end of his life. He was like if we were just dumber. This would work so much better to just get a light lobotomy. Yeah yeah being oppose. Rate is save the fucking day well yeah. It's it's like she has balked news. She's got bolt cutters. Yeah they can be used for good or evil much Syrian impulses and urges that we all have because it's coded into our brain <hes> it's it's a constant battle that starts at the bottom and if it doesn't take the job now we're now. We're out into crazy crazy town. We're just getting herbs or something. Yeah that that that's fun. That's fun to think scarf referred the graphic novel <hes> story boarded I the whole time five feet beneath the ground which Zombie out yeah and just bonkers trump betsy devos just throttling each other with like fucking scarves taste. When does it end well. That's right are the hunger games. A good idea for society is the conclusion shot should give it a shot you too because this is just a whole new experience. I've never had where we can just make eye rolls to each other directly and then say what that is Robert Evans. I know agree to do two parts. Jamie wow yeah no. I was forced into doing this one part well. I'm glad that you were on Mike People. Listen to hell and gone. That's H. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts uh-huh we would have gone out onto the <hes> the poisonous Belka sure the poison room cracked it open with my podcasting machete can't in instagram behind the bastards dot com for the sources for this pod <hes> he public. We have t shirts. We have totes. We have phone cases. Keep an eye out for creeping authoritarianism in your own daily life and try to shame some meat on your way home. If you'd like to humble Robert Please find me on Instagram Sophie assure you can listen to the Bekdil cast every Thursday feminists movie podcast or follow me on twitter at Jamie Loftus help or comes Michaud at Edinburgh fringe on twitter at at bastards pod because she runs a twitter so if you want to tell her to be less or more mean to me you can let her know but unreality the fight against the the the monster coded into our brains. Hitler's almost inevitable yeah. Oh those things in that in order. Please have the enters on my desk by Monday <hes> if there's a better symbol for creeping authoritarianism in the human spirit than the television show frazier I what if frazier were part of the fantastic four. That's the very question this t shirt explorers. Everyone think about that and also how do we it don't do that. Don't do that but do maybe a bolt. Cutters certainly keep eight. Okay thank you didn't create disgust in your voice is selling. I just think we could've titled it better at Bastards Pot on twitter and I found it yeah alright Jamie you WanNa plug. You Plug ables. We've couple of new new designs up there so check it out good stuff and they have sales like all the time <hes> yeah and <hes> you can find sophie hand. Yeah you do have a machete. That's that has says podcasting on the blade. I am wearing my throwing bagels aw and we have the same podcast. I didn't agree to that in my contracts but follow Robert on twitter. I radio sites of his. I don't WanNa say to me this instagram or shame shame shame. I don't Wanna I just don't enjoy the phrase size of meat and no I think that a meat shaming t shirt is called for at this point yeah. There's this Roberts yeah yeah serious influences here. The Meat Shaming story really is is GONNA so Texas. It's fucking amazing yeah enj- fest in Scotland. All I guess Yeah Right Yeah and <hes> Sophie you WanNa. Plug my plug ables because you're wrong. Underscore Ray underscore up underscores sunshine and let me know your opinions on Robert so I can tell it to him to face and make that's great that he doesn't know the sites right meet big. Please tell me how cute my dog all right well. This has been a rambling enough. The episode done go eagles behind the basket t shirt right now. I need to get one of those. I have one for you. Oh Yeah I'm wearing my what frazier were part of the fantastic four t shirt today <hes> what's that what's that curious chimpanzee. He seems like the right character. Yeah George Might Ellen gone and I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie Ward on September ninth nineteen eighty nine when there's no justice done it hurts a lot of how can you measure of Robert was here. I'd be I'd be. I rolled into a coma by their conscious. You just be tied up yeah. Yeah I love you. I would much rather story that you tell it to my daughter. would-be Katharine Townsend hosted the true crime podcast Helen as we have <hes> not bolt cutters but soon to be bolt cutters yeah we'd hire we have we have we ever couple not one of the things. I read a while back and have stuck with me ever since she turned into a challenge the shaming of the meet with <hes>.

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Do aliens exist?

Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe

54:54 min | 1 year ago

Do aliens exist?

"You Start Your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how do it. Where did they go wrong. Where did they go right. And how can you assume predict time of death because it's hard for people to conceive of interaction between different types of systems and different types of data points but that's something that computers are very good at math right in meeting combination of those two ideas wrapped up together in one podcast the understanding the decisions these computers have made that's the same problem we have <hes> here in in particle physics because nobody wants to publish a paper that says <hes> future and secrets of physics to us but I'm also equally fascinated in the search for intelligence here on earth and I don't mean among the political class but I mean in our computers whether our computers can be intelligent whether they will be intelligent. Maybe they will discover secrets. Physics unraveled them for us will today. We have everything you need to know about artificial intelligence right guys hopefully it is everything but yeah the way it's affecting people's lives in different areas. I was interested you know to hear Daniel that in effect but <hes> multifarious interacting causes which produce <hes> hard to explain effect so we were looking today at an at death actually machines. We use computer intelligence to do that sometimes but we also want to interpret it. I was listening to your podcasts last week about making sure these things make sense and how you use a machine learning in your work because with folksy more more on how I can help us understand complex system so not just simple calls yes <hes> Kara an ause produce and host the podcast sleep walkers which is also by hard radio and which is about everything outcasts <music> of I detected gravitational waves and so we did a lot of research around that and I became particularly interested in gravitational waves from that <hes> for the show of sleep walkers and my background is well in content production but that's not fun for a podcast but I did have a show on huffpost called talk. One of the things we do is that we take these big complex pictures of particle collisions and then we have to try to unravel and we have to try to wonder what's going on in the data as we use has here to ask US questions to the program we have the host of is <hes> until two thousand seventeen and she was telling us the that this concept of explainable a is a priority at OPPA right now so cool to he'll walk. You start off doc nerdy to me. That was a video show where we asked other big questions not only pertained to the universe but sometimes pertaining to the universe so I do have a general understanding and he wasn't adult man so he could not go to space camp but sent me to space camp. When I was ten years old I went there before I went to sleep away camp so I've always had a computer found a particle in the data. We can see it but trust us. It's they're very interesting. Yeah we were talking to an Aussie propaganda who ran Darpa for a few years adding of some of the things that you guys talk about on your show and I've gotten to speak to some really interesting folks at NASA and I've gotten to it was during the time of you know when they Tom Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti listen and subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts <music> just listeners but we're we're super listeners and big fans and hoping that you can explain universe to us today not the whole universe. Some says a great idea for podcast. Yeah we are once again taking questions from some friends of ours so to the on the podcast we have the host of a popular podcast and also I grew up with a father who was obsessed with both the universe and extraterrestrial life and actually edited a book called the Universe of the podcast sleep walkers with us here today so cara price and ause washing. Hey guys hi. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having us not of maybe if you can tell us a little bit about your cells and a little bit about the the podcast and how we can find it. I mean you said my care price. <hes> the CO host Tasty Comex Daniel part of the physician definitely not an artificial intelligence and welcome to our podcast Daniel Jorges explained the universe eight production of chalets and how death involves the collapse of all these different systems in the collapse of one system <hes> effect another system and how hard it is for Doc. I heart radio listeners of the podcast will know that I am particularly fascinated by aliens and the search for alien intelligence because I hope that those aliens will one day reveal the future sixties and having a parent that really was obsessed obsessed with the fact that we had landed on the moon and obsessed with astronauts and going to space and also understanding solar system consciousness. I think more so than your average middle schooler that has to learn about it in school. At least is sort of grew up in the shadow of the nineteen. I think astrology is becoming a multibillion dollar industry with absolutely no <hes> grounded fat and so I'm always interested in talking about astrology but I don't really know so much about how it relates to astronomy even though I probably should and so I figured I'd ask a question about that and maybe ends and astrology in fate and so let's jump into it well. I think I speak for all women. No I'm joking. Origin story is Kara <hes> but I'm interested in origin stories <hes> origins of the universe origins of <hes> computer science origins of <hes> and no us in some sense better than ourselves and thus influence us well. Let's to buy or to vote or to appear protests or humans are we on the verge of species meeting. Becoming a new species of people who <hes> technology plea enabled. Obviously there's a bunch of people <hes> looming I wished about technology and about official intelligence <hes> but it uses those topics as a way in to have big conversations about our culture our society features an interview with Yuval Harari who wrote a sapiens Home Adidas really asking the question. What is this new technology mean full status as not and what makes us human limits of our humanity and so in as the series progressed? We've gone from looking at how algorithms are able to understand us. The first person I reached out to advice on how to build it and then I go very lucky that she didn't want to give me advice on how to build it will join the show so really you know it's a show artificial intelligence and I was a huge fan of cars work on talk nerdy to me so <hes> why started thinking about sleep walkers as a show you know she was we'll have they found is green and austell a little bit but you don't have nearly quite sasha romantic origin. I think everyone should be at this point. <hes> please go check out their podcast a we'll be answering questions from Oz and Cara related to the Universe and aliens right interesting and and then also you know this idea of will we ever find life on Mars or another earth plants where they can actually survive or will they find us blooming the background like Elon Musk who kind of constantly ring the bell for the Tara <hes> and he's somebody who's worked on trans humanism in the form of neural link also somebody who's interested kind word astro in front of I think I think you just answered the question. Actually I think those letters about all they have in common. I mean <hes> astrology. Get a strategy today. Future generations will look what we think of as astronomy in other words. Would it be a system understanding the world which future scientific revelations space and trying to figure out what's out there and how does it work and can we build a model that actually make sense and so there's really almost no overlap at all <hes> overlap. Jackie is like looking at the stars and identifying constellations and imagining somehow that the constellations that were in the sky when you were born might dictate tate who you are and the events that happened to you in your life you know it's really is mysticism whereas astronomy that's like a scientific study of the universe look out into Latin might be that astrology released. constellations and constellations are kind of weirdly a lot of people's introduction to astronomy. You know people look up at the stars. Hugh interpret all biological signals a mess of biological signals. Tell us when we might die all the massive genome to tell us what kind of illnesses we may be prone are into. 'em. How toward our children may be what color that is will be and whether we want to intervene in that <hes> and I'll finally answer the series of season one is coming out in two weeks which in the potential for living in a simulation which is an episode of your show. I really enjoyed <hes> but but we try and take a more more neutral line looking optimistic nations proves or demonstrates was actually flawed understanding. I'm sure that the future generations will look back at our strategy and they will snicker at our misconceptions ought to keep swiping on dating apps and then as a series is progress. We've looked at <hes> in a medical applications as Carl was mentioning what will happen in a world where we can use a I to. Maybe you guys could give me a decent answer so I can you know school my friends so the question is what is the Strana me have to do with this trollope right besides Yathrib Stars and they see these constellations and that's fun that sort of draws them into the mystery and the majesty of the night sky now. Is it possible that the way in which we look Santa is their life in the cosmos so from a personal standpoint. These are the things that I think about kind of on a daily basis. So being on your show is quite take things this new technology will for us and for our species to enjoy and perhaps even have more time to play or listen to podcasts book us well hopefully okay. I will make our next coast so he can still voice hopefully well if you are interested in artificial intelligence which I aimed of in modern day astronomy. We've made dramatic understandings and anything that we misunderstand. We're happy to have a new understanding. Astrology is a little bit different. You Know Asians or I think oh my gosh. They thought that the universe was like this. It turns out. It's like that but that's <hes> you know that's. The part of the process of science is corrections and there's nothing to be ashamed really just pure fiction in when I think about astrology astrology is to astronomy sort of like what weather gods are or rain dances are to meteorology like <hes> <hes> winter a much more precise science. Yeah exactly you know the thing that amazes me is that these things are so often linked because they really have almost nothing investments as my advice possession returns Israel and Merkin Richard he started with constellations because it it gives you a little bit of context about would we humans seen this guy and what we Zodiac signs with basically Bronze Age myths you know as an entrance to astronomy that always frustrates me so the stars don't ever align really for anybody. <unk> are yearning to understand how this guy's related to our lives right. I really interesting so I can. I can imagine Daniel it must be frustrating on the one hand to have the specter of astrology wanting a astronomy on the other hand. The fact that people have a baseline interest in the stars may be as uncommon and I go to I think my kids to planetarium's for example and very often they start off a planetarium show with the constellation so like this is this constellation this astrology or astronomy either well. The stock market is just a random chance anyways so rural adine and make your other atoms in the universe in fact every other atom in the universe. There's for example electromagnetic field that connects you the protons electrons in your body with the electrons everywhere. Some of them are Zillions of light years apart from another perspective. There's no constellation there at all so it always it always frustrates me senator. They begin with astrology with with beano net positive. I think so yeah I just wish it wasn't diverted into astrology L. Hey tell us about <hes>. You know the particles in the universe. What everything's This is the Constellation. I'm thinking this is supposed to be like an extra. Nominal educational experience must be learning about the universe constellations have no insight into the universe on the planet. That's for sure but I suspect that that's a lot of that is psychosomatic. Seeing the moon affects the way people feel. You'd have to do some sort of blind study. Where people couldn't it's <hes>. It's not a stretch actually said to the moon affects people right because the moon is pretty close and it certainly has a physical effect on the earth causes the tides. It affects the things diverse at all. They're just they're an artifact where we happen to be in space. You know you look at the stars in a particular constellation. They look close together because of where we are but you know it's a it's not a scientific understanding hasn't come to be out of a a method which has been built to separate fact from fiction. It is really and you would disagree psychotherapy right exactly where's the same we see in coverage of A._I. As people like to answer anthropomorphized again with the true facts about the universe <hes> I think I think there's so much amazing stuff in astronomy that you don't have to begin with a strategy to get people excited. Just wild didn't see the moon and just feel it but the other planets and stars. You know it's funny. We were talking about this. Just recently on the podcast. It is true that you feel the effects of album with reality. The Universe is crazy amazing place and there's lots of cool stuff out there. You know when people refer to a whole you know the universe telling me to quit my job invest in space x ray acting super crazy to to be fair. Danny you shouldn't based decisions on anthropomorphized <hes> machines and Yager and the Algorithm and <hes> you know and and it's kind of a bit of cop-out isn't it to thinking about how we responsible number if the universe doesn't think that I know that I should be with this guy or this girl whatever the universe has a personality opinions about your dating life but those things are negligible because the power those things drops as the distance squared so the electrons Elfin Tari have no measurable effect on. You soon for example like I've been with people who on it's a full moon. They feel some kind of connection to the moon or they feel some sense of excitement wildness. Is that pure projection uh-huh. I mean some people have charmed lives but I don't think it's because of the stars I is it possible. I've always wondered you know people feel. The moon made out of you. Don't start off with well. There's fire air weaned earth. You know whatever like the four elements the Greeks you begin with things we actually know one is that is there any possibility that sorta event so planets moving through our galaxy can on a political level affect us all connect with us <hes> we'll. I don't know your friends are they. And the the the you know where that we know of Jupiter is we're Saturn is doesn't affect whether or not you should like say yes to a date sort of the biggest sort of Harry and a little too when the man comes out all the time well. They sound fascinating. I think but you know I think that that people are really good at identifying intelligence outside of themselves. It's certainly a survival tactic. Say like Oh this creature R._I. Outcomes yeah. I think there's something really fascinating. They're actually it says something really interesting about human intelligence and consciousness <hes> here. I'm very far from my area of expertise and actually there are scientists who fabricate data and produce papers <hes> with with images that are not actually taken from their experiments but the fascinating anything is that they're very easy to detect just take an image. That's another figure in the same paper inverted or flip it or whatever so <hes> it might be a day when scientists use constellation with the FIDO. Orion has a dog. There's no ryan making when the dog is takeover. We'll have to ask them if they're interested in astrology of skip over and go straight to astronomy. What's what's the dog constellation? UGH that has to pull a truck as opposed to dog should be doing which is playing and using their minds and building tech companies so you know. I think we don't Don Britos. Eh Astrology is really just two people making stuff up. <hes> astrology is spiritual mysticism and you know some people find it helpful but how easily people will apply that to A._I. You know when we have a that is that can mimic human human intelligence. It really is interchangeable with a human being alert conversation about fake news in the U._S. and that's something we've looked at on our podcast is deep fakes and how manufactured media can <hes> we go she. Maybe the hunter yeah but it seems like you're saying the answer is that astronomy is science. It's based on facts and observations and data yeah exactly yeah. I think these questions are going to come up. I think they're already coming up. You know just in terms of who were we. Who are we blaming when when I think the general public is already lost a lot of faith in signs as an institution not because science has misbehaved because our political leaders have begun dismissing missing it and pushing it away from having a rule of the table the facts of reality are not always convenient <hes> but I think <hes> there's another angle to that which is fakes INSCI- and would've youtube radicals. I don't think there's going to be much progress made in the scientific establishment. It's interesting example of how the Algorithm has impacted people's perception but is definitely not science in this political moment you know with <hes> you have the ministers in Britain saying you know we passed the age of experts and you have you know disturbed. The notion that truth exists anywhere and that's obviously having big implications for politics is that how much of a concern is that in the world of science that you algorithms go wrong. Can you blame an algorithm yeah. I guess the real question. I think obviously you know goes back to that's right. He didn't know he was to the university. Say like it seems like there's some organizing intelligence as acting in this way to bring storms or two star wars or whatever and I wonder so it went from a media sensation to you know <hes> to fringe ridiculousness in just a few months and so I think that's one of the real strengths of size. It has yeah well if you watch if you watch like there's there's videos on this Boston dynamics youtube bright of or there's there's videos where you watch robots either. Getting beat will people be tempted to give them human rights because they appear to suffer. Do they really suffer. You know these are a really fascinating questions that I think you probably should answer in your podcast. The podcast recently about cold fusion how folks claim to have invented fusion that you can do at room temperature but then within months lots and lots and lots of groups tried to reproduce it and couldn't and end of reality and science because those were most people who have been radicalized in that way <hes> were radicalized on youtube by being suggested other videos the third movement. I still can't tell if the floor of the movement is a bunch of trolls really believe that you know like anybody actually seriously believe that I mean I think it's a crazy off. Shoot has this self correction because we can always refer to the experiments because in the end is grounded in truth and facts. That's not always the case about you know a mainstream discussions. I'm their claim right yeah. That's the Nice thing about sciences. There's always somebody out there. Who wants to prove you wrong. End So fake results. Don't last very long <hes> we talked about that on can always just verify these things you know like somebody says hey. I can clone human beings and but nobody else can do it then you know that Kasim Shadow on creature here seems to be aware and intelligent and how and being agent and <hes> and so I think that's how people identify in a will in other beings and there's very natural to extend that like videos will folks just listener show and they'll understand everything exactly well the thing about <hes> that idea of fake science is do you think Daniel that we can data or watch robots you know Dogfights Reagan dog robot fights <hes> or dogs pulling a truck. Am I supposed to feel bad for this. Robot dog you know in the end somebody might turn around and say. I choose my facts on him. In My universe astrology is just as bad as astronomy well. I think that's the sort of two inches there one <hes> I we use sophisticated a I to generate false data for their papers but that day is not yet here well and you also have the larger problem of misinformation in the case of the Flat Arthur and so we'll get into those but first. Let's take a quick break. This episode is brought to you by Xerox in the news media so you have two other questions are pretty interesting about life another planet and also about those four sightings by the navy. Yes and we know that like twenty percent of stars out. There have an earth like planet which is incredible because there's twenty percent one in five yeah and you know we only learned that and hyper spectral imaging. We're not just thinking about the future. We're making it. LEARN MORE AT XEROX DOT com slash meet to think Alexander time no absolutely I mean all of these things are possible <hes> the here's here's the whole range like we know that there's lots of earth like planets out there. What did he say life like well. I guess I guess you know it really trips me out to think about their human beings another place that don't know that they're human sounds frustrating to live back in the age of ignorance about the universe but is it possible that there are other intelligent lifeforms in the universe and we will never until but one day we will know and people will look back and wonder like what was it like to be ignorant about this really basic question about the universe and so it's fascinating and exciting and also sometimes. I think there could be a bunch of life like creatures living on a planet that I don't know exists so my question is what are the chances that there's such a thing asking. One expert about the universe in one cartoon is deep questions about the universe and so care. What's your second question well. It really freaks me out. Recently we've known for a long long time to zillions and Zillions of stars in the universe but we didn't know how often they made earth like planets unusual and that's that's the problem ocean the host of the podcast sleep walkers which is about artificial intelligence and society and culture and they were taking questions from them to experts and asking beings on earth so we're all we're both living minding your own business shopping at whole foods living on different planets and is that happening is that possible there is any question because it goes right to the context of human existence you know. Are we alone in the universe or are we one of many you know. <hes> is there other civilizations out gets my point is is you know if there are earth like planets. Could they be producing earth like human beings yeah. That's a question you know. Is there life elsewhere in the universe and there and I think that's something people have wondered for a long time and the fascinating thing is that we still really have no idea what the answer to that question is <hes> but the most amazing thing is dude. I think cares worried that maybe alien whole foods. The prices are lower an implausible physically impossible. No I guess he's I think one day we will. This is the kind of question that we're currently ignorant of the answer right. We don't know if there's a loss of other civilizations out there or were the only one today's xerox is all about enabling the era of intelligent work from industry leading hardware and software solutions to workflow automation and new innovations like three D. printing and and we just really don't know the answer. It's that or somewhere in between and the reason is that we've only ever seen this one planet. Where's happened. which is Earth as a book <hes> cooled? We're here with characterize Oswal. I'm just very basic rocky planet with about the right distance from the sun so that the water's not frozen and so it's not super duper hot right as pretty basic requirement fooled the unbearable lightness of being by Milan Kundera beautiful book about about love and the protagonist is wondering <hes> about his Gli intelligent life and how many of those have technologically intelligent and intelligent bull life rather we could actually communicate with and recognize and the frustrating thing is that the number is either somewhere between a hundred percent of those planets have life and earth is the only one right one over like a trillion so you know if they only exist as slimy tentacled creatures. Can they still push a shopping cart at whole foods right. It's a deep question about the universe. A lot of people have asked <hes> and I think it's a fascinating liquid water on the surface. <hes> we don't know with is going to be liquid water there. We'd certainly don't know about oxygen oxygen extra hard to make you need microbes for a long time to produce oxygen typically that there are supermarkets on another morning like a human's leg people or just like it was weird blobby green aliens who also happen to have wholefood arm and so we now know that there's Zillions and Zillions of those now the question is how many of those have life and how many of those have intelligent life and how many of those have technologically his relationship and and should he stay or should he go and the there's this phrase in German which survives English translation which is I model is the over two zero and forty degrees Celsius normally with oxygen nitrogen carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and water. What are the doors the definition of athlete and canals yeah no a rocky planet so this is surface and roughly the right amount of solar radiation so that you could get the news that we only have this one data sample earth and so re- tempted to extrapolate in wonder if there's lots of others but we don't know for unusual and like mean between thirty and forty degree it and it'll it'll just blow it open once we can visit one more planet. Just one more will tell us a huge amount because if that other planet also has life kind model or once is none basically to say that he only have a sample size of one. You can make good decision scientifically. We only have this one data point of earth-like planets have life on them <hes> and the the other reason why it sort of struggles that we still don't really know how life started on earth you know. We had a really physics that we've developed. The physics of the universe or the physics of humanity is artificial intelligence a natural outgrowth of technology and and computerization or is it just aliens and we'll get to your last question Kara which is about those U._F._O. sightings by the Navy but first. Let's take a quick break entrepreneur turned T._v. and radio host and over the course of my career I've interacted with interviewed and reported on thousands of businesses. I've seen bright. Beginnings fizzled out is to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana very host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre affi. I'm a former tech. EXEC turned serial to Spin Straw into gold bizarre affi. We'll have new episodes each week. Listen end subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts all to harness the power of Statistics and probity in order to make predictions about the future so you would assume that other beings of all sentient intelligence would also and grew into intelligence and wipes out the civilization at all comes full circle organic computer even look like we have one head right now elegance which then wipes them out and <hes> and then thousands or millions of years later that that machine based society develops organic computers which then is an advanced was Asian out there or there are many out there. Do you think it's inevitable that they all the overtaken by artificial intelligence or that they will develop to be tools artificial intelligence curious fidel slow on that <hes>. I think that's a wonderful question actually once wrote a science fiction story in which organic creatures develop artificial intelligence <music> what do tender. Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo having common. They're all iconic. Businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go and rocky starts that turned into shining stars so join me and my producer new Guy Nick as we dive into the decisions that led to greatness and the regular people who were able the consequences of human thought and civilization. We really don't know the answer to that and we can't really ever tell until we meet those aliens and talk to them about it. We'll speaking of meeting other aliens. Something that is straight out of the X. Rayed. Yes it is out of the X. Files. I think I mean what's going on with the U._S. Navy in U._F._O.'s create a computer like machines to help with mathematical equations and if they did the logical progressive that would I think detailed mechanistic understanding of that process you know to go from lifeless but with the ingredients of life to life beginning then we can answer this question scientifically. I would think that you know in the statistical likelihood is something does exist out there. So what is I I mean a is statistics. Probity and computers are able if you if you think about statistics you know one over a trillion chance I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet on that so from that point of view I would if I was visiting F._M. Seti because controversy but we don't know how it happened and so we can't really speak concretely about whether it's likely to happen elsewhere well. I have a question for you guys so let's assume that there open and may be taken over by as some people fear will happen to us. New feel like is inevitable. That's a very interesting question yeah. I might as about I was. GonNa say that you know if I've I've always followed U._F._o.'s casually or just the hype crazy but it seems like it's in the New York Times now why I want to meet the aliens why why want to collaborate with them why WANNA be first in line to talk to them because these are deep questions that can only really be answered by getting more data is the I believe we can build models. We say how how often that happened but we do. It's still a mystery to us. We know it took about five hundred million years or maybe a billion years. There's some controversy wrong. Where did they go right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants right but in this case that's not so glamorous and the Navy pilots have seen weird stuff in the sky and because uh-huh so must be paying. I mean an unidentified. Flying Object is a drone no if we know what a drone is. It's not a U._F._O. Right I mean U._F._O.'s technical description of something in the sky that is unregistered by whatever the atrophy controllers major flying camera life on it boom life on another planet. We discovered it. We've answered the question. If it doesn't right then it tells us that the the number is probably a lot less than one hundred percent of carrot. What's your last question. It's about something Oh true brain. Sorry works yeah. No I think that these really fascinating questions and this is exactly <hes> you know in some sense overwhelmed by century data flying that fasten that high <hes> what's going on. Tell us it's back to assume they'd like for example. I've because they're in the navy. Were inclined to trust them more than you know. The Tin Hat Brigade <hes> the real question is is what they're seeing real or. Is it more likely that their brains are being thing like it doesn't matter what they are whether it's drones or little green men. Senator Warner is focused on keeping our pilots safe Google the whether they thought aliens had ever visited the Earth. Here's what people had to say. Do you think aliens have visited us here on earth. Not The big TIC TAC and you know these things happen. Occasionally people brush them off but recently the navy released some footage some video of an encounter in this Kara said Coldeze <hes> these closed door hearings. I mean if close do maybe something going on with the navy about these U._F._O. Sightings and his spokesman said something he is also today <hes> introducing something called Dashboard which stands for designing accounting safeguards to help broaden oversight in two thousand fourteen two thousand fifteen or the pilots actually got this stuff on video shows the aircraft doing some pretty weird stuff you know making sudden stops and starts the pilots for how to report U._F._O. Sightings <hes> whereas it used to be like something I think pilots were loath to admit you know <hes> because it made them seem crazy now the navy's no. I'm just kidding. There is a relationship between this and day. I actually because it's the same senator Mark Warner. One of the people who's called for a briefing from the Navy do things that no plane could do could drop really really quickly towards the ocean disappear under the water and come back up and <hes> the pilots there said that it looked like survive very very fast accelerations and so they were these this footage and the navy released to the public and so it's out there on youtube watching dissecting it and three of navy pilots seeing weird stuff and reporting it and there was like an incident in two thousand four around an aircraft carrier where some pilots reported seeing something that could I'm known by then like I'm not sure if we have actual evidence what about U._F._O.'s. It could be anything. I think it's possible but I don't think throwing people off that it's openly talking about these sightings and it uploaded video yeah exactly and the navy has now like an official policy for it's in turning really quickly dropping fast accelerating really quickly things that appear to do things that we humans couldn't survive you know because humans can't survive she companies to tell uses the value that generating from their data each month which literal cash value owners but he's also the guy who has the GEO location data well. I thought this is really fascinating and I was wondering like what people have their think about. U._F._O.'s did they and so it's sort of come into the mainstream away from the fringes so I guess that's the big news is that the navy is being kind of open about it right. I think I think that's what is think evidence of aliens the thing that's impossible so I walked around campus a U._C. Irvine this morning actually and ask folks what they thought about the latest U._F._O. Sightings and in which we live that now. You're not crazy if you see a U._F._O. You're just being a good pilot. Were probably crazy to be a pilot in the navy. Maybe a little bit and then there was just very just a couple of weeks ago. I think the navy briefed a bunch of top lawmakers in the United States you know about what is the status of the U._F._O. Thing they don't have prove that or any signs of them visiting us. I don't think so no one is because you would have known tighten regulations of data act and that was a man that is a Golden Akron and he's the guy who's out in front on trying to compel technology involve extraterrestrials but again. I don't know generally skeptical of the boxes skeptical good work yes so some pretty he's encouraging pilots and giving them a formal process to report this stuff so that we can get a clear picture for sort of what's going on which I think says a lot about the times aliens isn't it. They visited us but like. I don't have any reason to believe it. I guess I mean there's been did hosting scenario so I think it's definitely possible but I don't know if there's different. I have not seen these latest articles in the New York. Times is is there something new going on the world of U._F._O. Sightings in spotting. There is a little bit. There's sort of a long history wide range of answers there ray and lot of people seem very skeptical and some people seem very <hes> Egyptian and opinions you does. I think he took that as a cultural threat you paramus they appropriated by extra-terrestrial ze yeah but I think overall. There's a lot of skepticism and think you know people have heard about stories you if there's any reason to think that they have <hes> what about you. I think that could be like just stuff in space like but I think it's possible that there's aliens different proofs that has happened if they're here on earth and flying around why don't they just make themselves known right wing for like us to become a quote unquote intelligence species by standards tangents. No no one in 'cause I'm so that would mean that appearance were built by any means. I think there's explanations that don't U._F._O.'s but I think they imagine aliens came. It would be a thing you see about you. Read about in the covering the New York Times you'd see the aliens meeting the president right like it wouldn't just be one story and then fizzle away so I think because people have heard of these stories lots of time then sort of turned into nothing. There's a lot of skepticism now built up in the general public about if you're a single civilization you explore the whole galaxy. It doesn't take billions of years it only takes tens and tens of thousands of years and the galaxies very old in comparison to to that number sort of feels like they should be out there. That should be exploring. We should have been contacted so then if you wonder like why haven't we been CDs videos right so there's something there is not just the pilots being being tired or they say like weird atmospheric effects or you know <hes> oh they're really far away but it turns out that the universe is is pretty old in comparison to its size so it doesn't actually take that long to explore like and experts have like a list of explanations but they're all very generic you know they're like well a pilot fatigue basically hallucination but you know we see aliens but you know that's very unlikely and so there's just sort of this go to list but the problem with those explanations for me is that they're not specific. They're not saying well. I looked at this video and large you mean it grows very slowly and therefore <hes> is more navigable. What's what's the relationship between the age and the size of the universe that makes it more likely that we should have been contacted <hes> classified government programs testing new kinds of aircraft basically your list of generic explanations and then at the end they always say of course it could be aliens. The more interesting question like say aliens had come to Earth Right. What would that be like. Why would they be here and sort of ZIP around. Playing is the only place with his dad happened and we know how many earth-like planets there are and so I imagine that the universe is filled with life and then the question is like why haven't deleon visited and you might say oh. Here's an alternative explanation. There's no specific credible hypothesis that can say here's how this event happened. That event happened is just sort of a general. They're willing to sort of scoff off one event which is fair right. I don't know is it fair. I mean if aliens came to Earth. How would it happen right like I think that's sort other life. My personal belief based on any science at all is that the universe is filled with life and because it just seems very unlikely that the Earth is short of aliens like what are the explicable phenomena of physics which explain what's happening here yeah. This is really fun because I looked this up and I said like what experts say his down. They can swoop in. That's why would you imagine they strike me there. Just visiting here is a scientific delegation to give the secrets of the universe right but Fresno went to play practical interesting question you mean they could be like tourists or scientists studying pending yeah exactly I mean we talked a minute ago about the likelihood of finding there's nothing that they can see with their own eyes. Although there wasn't even one case where this kind of bull flus right straight past the window of the aeroplane so I mean that the galaxy is big Ryan's you might think oh it's it's too far to get to those stars like the nearest ours tens of light years away or light years away and the other side of the galaxies seizes thousands and thousands of years and it's true and that means it would take a long time to get there but the but it's been there for a long time. That's what I mean that. It's older than it is been. You have to come up with explanations like they're. They have calm but they're hiding from us because like you say maybe they're scientists observing the tourists or whatever when you say it's older is <hes> but it certainly is true that if aliens come to visit US rather than us finding them. It's very likely that they're more technologically advanced than we are which means they might have the technology life if it had developed might have found already but it hasn't and so you have to try to answer that question like why haven't we been just full on contacted by alien visitors the joke. Is that what you're saying one of these. I found interesting about this story. Is that the Navy pilots very few of them have actually seen these things with our the question is like could it be the civilizations only let last for fifty years before they get taken over by A._I. Or kill themselves nuclear holocausts that certainly another possibility games over the ocean near fighter near U._S. Navy fighters and not make themselves known right. That's sort of a like in. What scenario does that happen to me that sort large but we also don't have any life forms that live longer than we don't have life forms of hundreds of thousands of years sure but civilizations might right and and that's another whether aliens have visited and that would be the time for aliens distract by the way that's right spoof of a bunch of times and then when our gard will sort of the same reaction that the folks the street had is sort of a general scepticisms well? I'm just not going to believe it unless I have three or four ten pieces of data that show me it's aliens. <music> is what happens is their radar systems or they weapon systems will will tell us tell us something there will see object and then they'll fly down to where they'll Jesmond to be in. Eh Won't survive you your confronted with that fact. The fact that the universe seems like it's filled with places for life to flourish and it's not that big so <music> bleak. I mean but you have to hopefully China. Hopefully this will align and Mercury will be the right phase talk physics. You know figure out what math they figured out that we haven't <hes> why stay quiet. They can't sounds like you're saying Daniel dead. It is physically and mathematically technology to stay hidden but you know you have to wonder about the motives there like why would they say hidden if I went to another planet five found intelligent life another planet I'd WanNa go talk to them. Meet their scientists one example. Why is it. I've always wanted to know that water is considered to be the crucial ingredient for life. I mean is it. Possible will look back on water the Sun essentially the Sun could be alive for all we know Australians. I've often they speak so slowly. We only get a tiny little snippet of it. You know it's a we have to broaden our minds when we think about life in the universe because we've only ever seen one whereas the astrology of twenty nineteen and what why do why are we so convinced that to hydrogen oxygen particle which supports our life is crucial early trips the up. Can you tell us a little bit about why the troops Yup and why you brought these questions to us. I think the question of life is very relevant to aw seek Booker's live in vapor or something like that and so one question is is there earth like life and that would be fascinating because the more likely we could speak to them and recognize it because we're looking for life. That's recognizable because we've only ever seen life on earth in life could be could take place on much longer timescales to understand them. Oh yeah that's a whole other question right to even speak to them could understand their language. Maybe there are aliens that are here. We just don't know how to and so you're totally right. It could be that there's a completely different way for things to be alive and that doesn't require water or they can live in frozen water or indigo living learn physics from them but another question is are there weird other forms of life you know is there life in the sun in currents of energy in the sun totally possible right so people are living off of no kind of weird and secretive about it right like the signings without a big splash or that you know we would see these small glimpses life computers and if we do believe that such a thing as silicon life exists well it doesn't require oxygen water to exist and so. I think <hes> could we even recognize alien. Life is possible we could land on another planet and there could be life going on but he's just a form. That's so literally alien to us that we don't even crucial to all live throughout the whole galaxy. Yeah it's a great question and the only argument really is that all like we've ever seen relied on water right but again. That's only life on earth. Take a total explanation until you had people who came to to challenge the status quo about the creation and the seven days and <hes> in opposition or in the absence of so you know if you look at the history of theology in the in the in the sixteenth century God was that they've come all this way spend all that energy and then just sort of like not engage <hes> and that they would be able to come all this way not engage and yet still be we spotted that seems sort of like clumsy and immature fish in contrast with the amazing technology required to get here right. You're like it sounds like a bad plot point that we would know how to what is life and one of the questions we're going to final episode of the series is is there a fundamental difference between Kaban life us and silicon cost an A._i. Because you know people see autonomy in Algorithms. They seen output whether it's an A._I. Making a song whether it's making addict likely that there are other lifeforms out there but it's it seems unlikely that they would come visit us and be so understand them yet or see them because there may be in a different visual plane. I've just always wonder maybe it's not them. It's us me either where the earth was flat <hes> and so this concept of the God of the gaps emerged where <hes> every phenomena that couldn't be explained was was attributed to him a diagnosis whether it's an A._i. Doing a job that was previously done by human and the natural response as we talked about <hes> who says of them and that's it yeah exactly and then of course you make some assumptions about aliens psychology which certainly I'm not justified in making but it seems unlikely to me <hes> the question which has been haunting or podcast is what are we in. How do we define ourselves and assumes we've always had lights to find ourselves. <hes> you have life that the beings last for hundreds of thousands of years and their metabolism is crazy slow and so we don't even see them moving right there talking to us but they're God until the number of phenomena that couldn't be explained shrank the number that you know the God who is responsible for those wasn't wasn't so much for God anymore. It's okay well you know to assign Person Hood and say okay. That's life but is it. I mean it's definitional question here what they're aliens no <hes> to our Australian listeners we love you. I feel like our questions have been answered. I'm curious. Kara and Oz said this idea of life another planet really either answer. Why did you want to talk to you. Is it's not U <hes> well. We touched on a whole different fascinating question which is strings with putting on which is you know what is life and how do we define ourselves and you know this desire the human quest to explore the universe to understand how A._I. Works <hes> and so I think for me the reason why we wanted to to get you'll incredible insight today into into life on other planets is because it really starts to put on the same flu features a conversation between Daniel and fascinating person with intimate knowledge of the location so tune in every week for a new adventure across the globe. Listen and subscribe at Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts they still have a question after listening to all these explanations instagram or instagram twitter. I thank you for joining us today and we look forward to hearing your pocket thank you it's really interesting to talk to you almost like dogs or almost like human beings and that's what's really scary about it not that it's some robot version of a person. It's a robot that are lives at risk. I think a lot of people's big question not at risk but you know will be dominated in certain sense some of US obsess us as people wanna find your podcast would they search for sleep walkers podcast on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your bug or the iheartradio APP instagram from my heart renew visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows birth as microbes and then flourished right we don't understand the process for how this began and <hes> it's certainly possible for rocks to get blasted off the surface of Mars and Land Mr Boston Dynamics examples if you look at some of these robots that they're developing. 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That's one word or email us at is fear which means if you find it he was recently made and so people wonder if there's microbial life under the ground on Mars and that there is another fascinating question about whether it's not humanly and even if it does signify life it doesn't signify any kind of life that we can computers similar to our own whereas these things flying through the sky <hes> obviously hallmark of microbial life. These little bugs are producing methane as they metabolize something and it's convincing because methane doesn't last very long until produced breaks down the atmosphere. There's life elsewhere in the universe that we talked about once in this podcast which is are we the aliens because there is one school of thought says maybe life began on Mars and then came to feedback at Daniel and or hey dot com thanks for listening and remember that Daniel in Jorges blend. The Universe is a production. I heart radio more podcast. How you are in the world. 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Wells College President; Pet Supplies Plus Giveaway

Bob Lonsberry

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Wells College President; Pet Supplies Plus Giveaway

"It's sunny and sixty two. I'm todd holiday newsradio Wamble of eighty next news at eleven thirty breaking news when it happens anytime another hour with Bob Laws. Berries starts now on newsradio. WAM eliminated. Thank you so much I appreciate that good morning, my friend, thank you very much for tuning in the window here. Sixteen stories up at broadcast central over downtown Rochester out to the Bristol Hills it is an absolutely beautiful. Beautiful Day for a radio program, the government ordered shutdowns associated with the whole Cova thing have impacted a lot of us and a lot of different ways. Almost all of them negative, some of them for some businesses, some institutions we have come to rely on think of as part of the very nature of our society could be imperilled future existence called into question by some of these shutdowns and impacts. To discuss that ranch be honored to be joined by the President of Wells College that Jonathan Gibralter Sir Good morning and welcome to the broadcast. Bob Good Morning. Thank you for having me on your show I. Really appreciate it. I appreciate your time Sir and I appreciate this career. You've chosen of service to education students. It real quick for half a second. Give give it. Tell us who you are. What your background please. I've been in higher education for thirty three years I've been first and foremost faculty member for the earlier part of my career and over the last twenty one years. I served as president of Farmingdale State College on Long Island for five years, and then nine years is president of Frostburg State University and the university system of Maryland, and for the past five years I've been president of Wells College in Aurora. New York standing outstanding. It? It tends briefly about wells college. What is it sir? Wells College is a A Private Liberal Arts College, That was founded in eighteen, thirty, eight by Henry Wells. WHO's the founder of Wells Fargo and American Express later in Henry's career. It come this way to Aurora New York and he built his home call Glen. Park right on the shore of Lake. And in doing, so he then decided that he wanted to open a women's seminary school. and He actually was in touch with Ezra, Cornell the founder of Cornell University. And they talk back and forth about whether it made more sense for. Wells College to become part of Cornell or to be an independent private college. And in eighteen sixty eight, the college was founded and We retained our identity as an all women's college until about fifteen years ago when wells went co Ed. In, the the virus and the shutdowns associated with it have thus far effected the Collagen its operations. How please sir? Well you know, up until January and even into the beginning of February. while. We were certainly hearing reports about covid nineteen in China, and then potentially starting to spread in the United States. we were about to send our students on spring break. And as information began to become more widely known. I then extended our spring break by one week thinking that that would give us a little bit more time to plan. As that second week of the spring break was kind of along and I began to see. What was happening? And what the implications were I then immediately said to our students do not return to campus. You'RE GONNA be returning home and we're going to be moving all of our education. For person and personal to online. And we did that very quickly as did just about every college and university in the country, and then within a few days after that. By Order of the governor of the state of New York. We even had to basically shut down our entire campus. Send our staff and faculty home working from home. And it's been that way since right around March sixteenth. Jonathan Gibralter is the president of Wells College. you've Santa a very straightforward a message here to alumni a few days back. Sir, saying that we need to go to school. We need to have a students on campus in the fall. It tell us why that is. What's the dynamic afoot placer? Small. Private colleges are very tuition, room and board a dependent. And every college and university in the country as you've been. Hearing or making a multitude of. potential plans. many community colleges. You're announcing in the fall. They're going to be pulling online. The CAL state system announced. They're going to be fully online in the fall. Notre Dame announced. They're going to be bringing students back to campus. other colleges as well have announced. We're going to be reopening. I think right now Bob. What we're dealing with is a situation. That's very much influx in New York state. Governor Cuomo. Has created a four phase reopening plan and that reopening plan has? different parts of the state receiving authority to begin to. Implement those stages and. in central New York and even in western New, York, there now into phase one. That phase is going to be for two weeks, and then there's GonNa be a pause to see how it works, and if there's another spike in the virus, it's possible that any phase could be interrupted at any time. We are making a plan to reopen our campus. and. That plan is based upon information that we're receiving from the state of New York. and. We need that plan to be approved by the state of New York. We're not going to be given authority to be reopened until our plan is approved. So my announcement was just to say to people that. We need to reopen in the fall. And if we can't reopen the fall, then you know I don't know what the future looks like and you know. Could we go fully online in the fall where assessing that right now, but I am an honest person, and I wanted people to know honestly and authentically that we're dealing with an entire range of possibilities for the fall. In. With a including the possibility that without room and board, fees from students that the the college is no longer viable. That the end of wells, college could come. All by. College and university in the country right now, especially small private colleges. You're having that that same dialogue. And you know I don't know for sure that that's what the future holds for wells without us being able to reopen in the fall and I say that because. There could be additional stimulus money from the state of from the federal government. I say that because we've now authentically launched. A broad-based fundraising campaign and our alumni as they always have are stepping up in a really incredibly positive way, so you know, I made clear that this was an urgent situation I then put out a request for help and people are stepping up, so let me say to you that if our fundraising campaign is successful, it's possible that even without room and board revenue. We could reopen in the fall. Standing, could you hold on a moment? Please sir. Absolutely. I appreciate it. That's Jonathan Gibralter. The President of Wells College again the the circumstances this gentleman describe, is he said is true for many colleges and universities, particularly private, a particularly small, and we've got a few of those in our region, they're great asset to our society and the lives of their students alumni. Back with you know moment on Newsradio, wham eleven eighty friends. Welcome back. It's our privilege. Privilege speaking with the President of Wells College Jonathan Gibralter also via communications director out there Chris pollock. They both join us and German I. Appreciate Your Time I it President Baltar. Some might say you know wells' kind of small, and it's not really close to where I live, and what's the impact and why are small private colleges like yours important? Why should we care about the fact? They are endangered sir. Well, you know every college. Especially small colleges and are part of communities. In Aurora New York. Wells college is more than just a college that educates young, people. We Have A. Very Large Library. That is open to our community. We have a fitness center and a swimming pool. That's used by our community. We have a doc that goes out onto onto the lake that is used by a that as part of a summer swim program used by the community. the college also has a a water plant. We actually draw water out of. Late? and we filter it, and then it gets and and then we pump it to our own water tower where it serves the college, but then goes out and serves the entire community. the the the community's health center is located on the College's campus. There's a New York state certified You know elementary school located on the Wells College campus. The college is more than just an independent entity. Our Faculty and staff live in Aurora. There there are many economic consequences to the existence of a college in a community even when I was president at Frostburg. State University in Maryland a very rural community. We had over five thousand members of our community, but we existed in a community of several thousand people and every business, and every entity within that community was dependent upon cockle -ties, staff and students in the enormous. Impact their presence, the mayor of new of ethics. The other day said that it would be cataclysmic. His Word Ithaca in Cornell Don't open with students on campus in the fall. So, is it completely were waiting for? The state will be the decider sir. Absolutely are the deciders you know we just received all of the colleges and universities including Ithaca College in Cornell. Gestures see the guidance last Friday about a statewide task group that was putting together a template that we all need to submit a plan to the state of New York, each college and university in new. York will be independently reviewed for the plan that they submit and then giving guidance of whether they can open or not in the fall. A member of these plans. Are you know think about the enormity of it, right? It's testing. retesting health officials are saying that faculty staff and students probably need to be tested every five days. It's if there's a case of somebody who has the virus contact tracing to be able to trace everybody that may have come in contact with that person. It's perhaps taking temperatures. It's setting up isolation in case there are. Cases of covid nineteen within our communities It's campus dining. Its residents living are two students going to be able to live together in a residence hall room. I heard some people in the media say college residential living is similar to a cruise ship. You know people living in very close proximity to each other, except in a residence, all sharing the same bathrooms, and what about intercollegiate athletics you know? All. tional level. Professional sports are dealing with the same issue that the national collegiate. Athletic Association is dealing with right now. Most College sports are context sports, and what about fans and what about athletes and their travel? All of these questions, your things that we. That, we have to take into account. Jonathan Gibraltar's the president of wells. College. You are the the folks in state and federal government are, do they? Are they hearing you? Do you have access to them? Do they sense? Do you believe Sir the gravity of the situation for wells and other colleges? I have been personally in touch with New York state, Senator Pam Helming and New York say stumbling than Gary Finch, they represent our district, and they're working very hard to get us the level of personal protective equipment. We would need to reopen the campus in addition I've been personally in touch with. Our Congressional Representative John Co.. as well as chuck, Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand they all are advocating very strongly for the next Stimulus Bill Heroes Act to be passed and that that bill has included in. It a an even more. financially beneficial plan for K. Twelve and higher education in in in the nation. But also in New York state, so yes, and they're also has been an advocacy campaign and our alumni staff students. have been doing letter rate letter writing to our federal delegation to make sure that they know the importance of our college to our community. And if I can just jump in here for his Chris you know as John mentioned the water plant earlier, we we, we're just so grateful for the assistance from scary fincher local send women in Cuba county from Penn, helming state, Senator and others than Katie County in your state. That I'm not mentioning and again we're just so grateful that they're on our side and fighting for colleges, all businesses in improvisations in our area. As we all kind of move forward toward very murky development phase by phase, and I also just wanted to mention that college actually has a a Tina called the covid nineteen response. He actually just met this morning again. It headed up by the students, and we are working with staff with faculty with students. putting our heads together figuring out all the things that we have to do, and as Dean of students wisely says this morning our charge now appeared kids. Not We need to do, but how we need to do it I mean there's a litany of things that every. figure out including PP annotation classes. Showers and so forth. You know we're. We're actively working very hard on that, and we will share carry information with our community just as soon as you possibly can. A present Jonathan Gibralter and Chris pollock director communications at Wells College. Thank you for the service Roger. Thanks to trump who is today? LEX Olson's newscast is next on newsradio. WHAM eleven eighty. Back troopers. Welcome back. We've talked about Oh yesterday. The county executive of Onondaga County, who holds a a daily briefing on Covid and where as the leader of the Central, New, York response. They've had actually great success at a you know all the stuff you're supposed to have success. Add more significantly P keeping people alive. But one of the things there that he didn't assert that this is going to happen, but he said this is one of the things we are watching, and they've got as expert of public health operation over there, as as anybody anywhere does but they said that one of the things in the central New York region. They are looking at their various health commissioners is. It is now finally getting warmer. Spring is delayed, but as you can see looking out your window right now. Gentlest ner spring may well be upon us, and there is a legitimate question of will the warmer weather be something of an impediment to the to the cova transfer. You know it, it's. It's just like the masks. A mask will not keep you hundred percent safe either way, but it may give you some incremental protection, and probably does know let my may seem to be a criticism. There's an incremental protection in all likelihood in the work of a mask. Will Summer Sun Heat. Make it all go away. Probably not because we have seen that it does have a presence in some warmer climes, but could it be an incremental? Obstacle to transmission. There are legitimate genuine medical people who say yes, it could, and so you know fingers crossed. Keep Your Eyes Open Maybe that will occur, and maybe that incremental protection in concert with other incremental protections like all the crap. We're having to do Mecca at my pay off for us, and if that pays off for us, then hopefully, the people in charge significantly at the state level will be quick to jump on Let's get reopened intelligent of fashion real quick and we need to. On if you've ever heard of. PET SUPPLIES PLUS DOT COM. You have okay, yeah, well, they're They're sponsors. This program we, it's possible in the coming moments. There'll be a giveaway of a a couple of twenty five dollar gift certificates to pet supplies plus dot com I. It's. It's conceivable that there will be questions. Asked you about some of the things we've discussed on this program. If you were attentive Sam, just it's possible. I think the numbers to two to eleven eighty. I believe pets, supplies plus dot. com is a sponsor. This real quick. On twitter and I, don't WanNa. wack on Joe, Morelli. But. It Joe Morelli tweets out here. Let me see if I can find this claim. Here's what he wrote he goes. Hundreds of you have written my office in support of the critical work the United States. Postal Service provides for our country every day. That's Israel. Let's go to Christina Lynn. Who is a typical American? Only typical or a typical. Strong case could be made either way either way. Have you ever written to your congressman. He asked when I was like seven. Okay, yeah, part of a class something like that. I, I've written. My Congressman also wants you twice. Have you ever written to your congressman about your support for the workers in the United States Postal Service? Now I haven't no, no well I'm not saying that this isn't true, but can you imagine that hundreds of people in one congressional district would say hot damn I've got to write my congressman right now and tell him how much I love. The poste's right well. Did they send it through the mail? You look at that and there's probably an email. It was probably I like them not enough to give them business. I like them. Anyway the thank you so again. If you're a postal carrier, Christina doesn't care about you. Obviously many rape Here's this whole tweet. Hundreds of you have written my office in support of the critical work. The United States Postal Service provides for our country every day. I agree USPS keeps our country moving. That's why last week I was proud to vote to ensure that they can continue to safely serve our country and there's a thing in there about the Heroes Act. Act which is the three trillion dollar plan for stimulus stimulus stimulus? which what does that have to at the post office I? Don't I. Don't just you know if you believe in this big giant stimulus, three dollars to say so I mean that probably a lot of people would agree with you maybe a majority, maybe maybe large dirty I don't know, but it's a legitimate position. Debate it whenever it will be voting on. We'll see which way it goes right. But to say I voted on this. Because I've gotten hundreds of letters from people saying how they appreciate the postal service, really not to be negative, but. I think a lot of folks did not know. The Postal Service were still a thing that much you go to buy stamps at Christmas time. Maybe you send a package We have wonderful post office in Mount Moore's grateful to them and you know I'm sure stuff still comes through the mail. You know whatever, but anyway Allen Allen I'm glad you phoned US Ma'am welcome to Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Hi Bob I'm so glad to talk to you and I you. Hope that you're doing okay. Holding up all right and the COVA, deal Great. Do you have a pet ma'am? I have so many pets I'm not a hoarder. They do have a lot of pets. Like what? I have a dog I have two cats I two guinea pigs. I have to fish, and then we're getting a new puppy next month. That just sounds like a mom. That doesn't sound like a horror at sounds like wow. Today's society. If you tell somebody who had that many pets. They look at you strange plus four kids. So they just they, they do look at you. Fruitful happy family. You're one. You're one cat short on us. and. We eat fish. Let me ask you this question. Ma'am earlier today's broadcast. We spoke with a very concerned college president. Saying we don't have students in the fall. We probably going to have to close down and we've been open since just after the civil war. Do you know Ma'am Name of that college? What were? Correct hundred percent. You nailed it In fact, that's part of their song I think the the al-Mahdi. BA Well, if you've got you like, that's enough right. I. THINK SO I! Put You on, hold dear Ellen. Congratulations! We'll look up the wells. College Alma Mater at some future point Duffy! Yeah. He's off here. It definitely good morning. Welcome to Newsradio wham eleven eighty. Good morning us well. How are you good? Sir You. You have pets. I. Do actually I have. A dog sitting right next to me while I'm traveling pristine. Her name is reecey he's a shepherd. Husky Mix Nice. That sounds like a good sturdy dog very nice. Of course I'm. On a diet, so your reference to receive makes me think a candy, and so I'm tortured because of that. Feet. This is a little bit harder one earlier on our program. We and this is for twenty five dollar gift, certificate, pet supplies plus dot com earlier in the program a lot of practice. I I I think so I hope the dog could take the wheel. Things go south. But. Earlier, we reference the sad retirement of Bob Matthews, said he and worked at this radio station for how many years You know what this was probably prior to me listening. I've been listening to Bob Gore ever. I'm just GONNA. Take a stab at it and It's. GotTa be. Three three years thirty in that rain downing thirty five's the answer. Thirty five. percent very good. We'll give it to you. A De Blasio you an Irishman. Actually kind of. An Irishman, wannabe. So I'm Steve Nick. Payne has to do with a bad golfer. Bad Golfers call adopt offer. Time or play Mary off. Very cool I'll put you on hold you get that. Listen if I, Christina. If I'd known, he was a Golfer, I of course would not have given him the gift certificate! Prejudice bias against because I think are all golfers rich or no or I can't remember whenever I'll take that God. Bless you, sir thanks so much to two to eleven the number because it is time now for listeners on the loose right after this break on Newsradio, wham eleven eighty now listeners on the loose with bomb Lansbury on Newsradio, wham eleven eighty. Here's the deal. I hate to disappoint. You know a lot folks looking forward to this. It turns out. If you go to youtube and try to find a recording of the wells college alma mater like their song there is not one and it's hard to track down the lyrics. This may be the problem. We think it's cash. Flow it. It may turn out that they simply don't have catchy tune I have found I, think some of the lyrics and and a few of them. Are in Latin not night I don't know if that plays with today's young crowd. You're on newsradio WAM eleven eighty. Yeah, I finally have an announcement. Spring is finally breaking. Indeed indeed, I'm about ten minutes away from taking my clothes off. I'll put running clothes on and then heading out into the warmth. They said that there was a high sunburn risk today. All right eight hundred percent. Burn me baby. Hello, you're on Newsradio? WHAM eleven eighty. Hello, Bob Yeah Yeah, the the president ever tell you about. The girls lingerie. Run into the lake. Yes, well I have a friend who graduated there. In nineteen eighty one. And? Yes, the girls all get around lingerie and dive under lake. Well God bless. Swimming in the lake is kind of fun right. I'd and here's the deal. Given the inclinations of many people in their late teens early twenty s from the modesty standpoint. Probably you should be grateful. They had lingerie on of. You've heard of it, but not in southern tier. I'm from. There are occasions when people will go swimming. Buck Naked Hoa Hello. You're on newsradio. WHAM eleven eighty. Fabio over to fellas. The other day were shopping handle one Bella. What is it and doing it all these press conferences? Around them, campaigns costs funny along with a lot of other choice awards repeat. My thank you very much I it. Christina Lynn noted young person. You thirty, four, thirty four that word. Fella, do you hear that a lot in your world? NOPE, nope, it's a it's A. It's a nice one. I guess wondering Nice. He's from an earlier day, Fella. All the lads were telling me that. You're on newsradio. wham eleven eighty Bob Yeah. I can prove the corona viruses over. Because nothing from China last over two weeks. Thank what. From what I get all like. If you buy a product or whatever like that? Yeah, okay, all right? This was good planned obsolescence perchance. It comes out good job. FELLAS that we said. She's learned. She's learned in the Lingo She got that out on my Rolodex. Hello your. Eye newsradio. WHAM eleven eighty. Yeah Bob Why is it that we could go to wagmans target and Walmart, but we can't go to like any music stores or any air. Get our here cuts in any other smaller stores. Welcome to Communism Matt it's fast. It's that way because Komo's bastard. I'm sorry did I say that? But it kind of goes out saying right? There is no logical reason. Why those businesses you referenced can't be open. There's no logical reason why we can't go to church if we can bring to bear the techniques of social distancing and mask and cleanliness and such like that and make shopping successful, and we have right. We've been going like crazy to the stores because you have to buy things and we haven't been dropping dead left and right in the coverted. We have flattened a curve and we've gone beyond that while having these large stores open week and attend if it is successful in those environments, and it clearly is. Then it can be successful in any environment, and you are stealing from store owners, and from business owners, and from employees, their livelihoods by denying them the same opportunity, you of a allow arbitrarily to other stores, and employees, and to say people. They can't worship whatever their faith might be that they can't come together. is absolutely wrong and un-american. Law You're on newsradio. WHAM eleven eighty Bob I've got the solution. The bathrooms being closed to the parks this weekend. Where your swimsuit, and if you have to use the bathroom, you'd get into water the water. No one will know in our family. We have a tradition. When you are whether you're out rafting or swimming in the pond, wherever like that? When you are peeing in the water, we just quietly raise her hand, saying so. If you see lines berries in your pool and they just we don't do in the pool. Of course. I don't know if we've ever been to pool the only time we ever GONNA pools at the hotel for some of those people, he'll billy people. We will go spend a Friday night with the kids at a motel. Just so we can swim in the pool, saying some fun. Hello you're on newsradio. WHAM eleven eighty. Wow. Wow typically people who? Want to express that tour are one either blind, and not driving or to incarcerate in some fashion by the way both she and I right now are quietly raising our hands. It's time to go God. Bless you keep your chin up. Plus the United States of America and the blind reference was not to the visually impaired. It was a specific case in point. Point below. Move past that okay news with Alexa and is up next in all afternoon. Don't forget. She is a part of that big Co, anchor of the five o'clock news our which you must listen to best in New York state I think three or four five years running in United back here tomorrow morning eight till noon on newsradio Cam eleven eighty.

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6 - Thou Shalt Shut the F**k Up and Learn Something

"I would not rob story that you tell it to. My daughter was beaten to death and Katharine Townsend host of the True Crime Podcast Casts Helen Gone and I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie Ward on September ninth nineteen eighty nine when there's no justice done it hurts. It's a lot of people listen to Helen Gone. That's H.. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcast hi welcome to everywhere I am you host Daniel Shetler today's travel commandment thou shall shut the fuck up and learn something myself and yourself. <music> south might not be the same what some call America's deep South includes without question Georgia Alabama MMA South Carolina Mississippi and Louisiana Aka the cotton belt but for some like me Tennessee and Arkansas I feel so much part of my southern appreciation whereas Florida and Texas appear to be totally their own things almost in kind of isolation some travel industry people actively calling it the new south. I guess it's less controversial than calling it Dixie Land Land Right. I think what they mean is that a bunch of hipsters have opened up a design centric decor stores and themed Boutique Hotels Dell's or found new ways of barbecuing and I'll getting tattooed while they're at it but for me if I choose to live in America I I need to travel America. The least I can do is to get to know at all the south sound so monolithic to me that I was determined to unpack jacket and allow every region every county every piece I could discover to show me what it is and what it is not Charleston Allston in Nashville of the current jams and the travel game the bride's maids and the cool kids have descended but I've also wondered about Greenville South Carolina and and also about Little Rock Arkansas and even Atlanta so I- orchestrated a series of road trips across the south over the course of a few years some cities like Memphis Tennessee and Savannah Georgia. I returned to numerous times because there was so much to find that I just simply love and the road from Knoxville Tennessee to Asheville North Carolina to Spartanburg which is also North Carolina. I could possibly now drive in my sleep but then they pulled US south. I still need to get through so see you soon Montgomery Alabama and San Antonio Texas my friend Sue and I decided that if we wanted to understand a little more of America the good and the bad we needed to road trip through Mississippi. I've always loved the many the S. Word and those iconic Silky. S.'s on the road signs just thrilled me so we started off with a wild weekend in New Orleans for her birthday birthday which ended with us in a car driving over the twin span bridge from Louisiana into Mississippi. Oh look she said a dollar General Israel stole and that was the first metro after weaken the state. We had counted nearly one hundred different of these. It was official road trip game. We also came up with a new slogan for the Mississippi Tourism Bold better than you think you need to say that really fast together better than you think and we tried it on locals uncles. They all seem to like it a lot. I was lucky I was told it had three syllables. So you had to slow your pronounciation association right down bell say a beach town with large casinos plenty of surf and even most shrimp back in the day the casinos will in floating launches for tax regulation purposes and sneaky nece I suspect but but today they all on the beach and of course sue knew how to gamble in Mississippi they have crept craps at craps variant in which the player Uh cannot lose pas bent on the come out roll. Yes I have no idea what that means but it was fun to watch to make a couple of thousand dollars within minutes. The town of Belloc say also boasts a frank gehry designed or O'Keefe Museum of art nothing to do you with Jolt O'Keefe. This is just the family who paid for the museum dedicated to the mad pontiff galaxy George E or in the late nineteenth century pottery was taking America by storm and I probably need holly to tell us more about this but it was usually a French floral or Japanese minimal will but goodell Jones had other plans like pots in anatomical shapes or a hole filled coffee mug. They're required you to drink from it. In in a specific way to avoid a spill long after his death the art world caught up with him and even Andy Worrell became a collector so right next to Biloxi is a little extension of the area called ocean springs sweet little town with incredible shafts and young people who are from the area and revitalizing using it in a sort of entrepreneurial spirit and this is where I really started to ponder about gentrification here at folk less like hipsters this does moving in and shaking things up by kicking locals out and more like rebuilding a defunct part of the state in fact the whole coast fell bill under disrepair with weather disasters and people just moving away but he and the ocean springs community will be pretty small pulled together to create a place place for progressive people to come live healthy creative lifestyle. I entered us into the local southern biscuit competition where town folks were competing every Thursday with no family recipe. It's no wonder my sneakily stole boat. Biscuits lost to the savary bless your heart Bacon Bacon and cheese entry. No trip to Mississippi is complete without a stop and its capital Jackson home to the Mississippi Civil Rights Museum that open not so long ago so here we were to white people standing next to confederate flag and a Ku Klux Klan costume consume in display cabinets an eerie darkness descended on sue and I this was in some ways America. I was standing in this museum room when an all African American lady came to stand next to me she looked at me and I looked at <hes> silence silence and then we held hands and we both started to quietly weep all I wanted to say. I'm sorry to apologize for something. I didn't quite understand. I felt some of the pain I think African Americans must experience walking through the museum and I felt ashamed for the world we stood there for a long time trying to process emotions and this is often now I feel in the south. I don't quite grasp the race situation. I was born in Africa as a white boy and fences my understanding and I do wish wish that I could talk about it more openly and that maybe I could shut the fuck up and listen to someone for once and fortunately most schools and certainly the ones I attended. I just wasn't given the vocabulary to talk about at bravely. I did have an English teacher at high school. Whom I'm still best friends with that encouraged reading reading James Baldwin and black writers from all of Africa we debated race and class in ways that felt both respectful and very challenging challenging but that was the eleventh grade in this is the real world so real that when Michael and I found ourselves at a Plantation House in South Carolina Lina just north of Charleston as part of our tour of the South we both felt pretty uncomfortable staying on property but somehow this like uneasy Zi feeling was probably something we needed to deal with and not run away from so we stayed and it was really hard not to make a run for it when there was the Kazaa reenacted slavery section as part of the touristy two of the grounds I naturally took this opportunity to question to guide and rapid fire questions with <hes> about the south and racism? She wouldn't let up the more I talked about it the more she wouldn't the next morning I had my moment breakfast was awfully formal served at this very long table and the old slave masters home we took our seats and this now owner of the property throwdown family style food soon enough. I asked the woman next to me whether it's a white woman she felt on being that she looked at me for a split the second in silence and then started talking fast hi I'm Anne and we from a small town nearby in South Carolina and we've come here to to understand race a little better and onstream who daddy who was sitting next to Michael ran a chain of grocery stores aimed at lower income communities and her mama helped local woman that community get kids through school in fact her parents had adopted many local kids and help them get educated abroad Raleigh for instance who happens to be African American was finishing up Harvard in the full. She herself ran a clinic for women to get healthcare services at cheaper rates even abortions she added if that's what they wanted we chatted for about an hour with the whole family and with the elections going on obviously turned in political and at some point I said Oh I so wish I could spend an hour of my life with trump supporters so I could just better understand that viewpoints in the room went silent and any said you just did and the rug was pulled. ooh Shaw so one night we were sitting at dinner and you can sit under the old hand-driers and she told me about his staff. I hired the ones who don't feel feel like they belong. She told me and it's true I've been to the restaurant a number of times now and made it my business to chat to the servers and bartenders in line chefs many of them are l._G._B._T._Q.. BTCU and have come from small towns or maybe a farm somewhere in the south where they are not welcome they told me stories about being chased from childhood homes buy guns and how some was sent to gay conversion therapy classes but luckily news travels and many kids get for their lives needing thing to run away here robot Karen's at no safe haven and she says l. high of just about anyone. Everyone's welcome here <music>. How can I not pundit how fortunate I am to have had an immediate family who embraced my sexuality who never made me feel less because I happen to love men of course the stories about race acceptance identity are everywhere in the greatest south ready for anyone to take take and start discussing like the Savannah College of art and design transform the electric city of Savannah in open it up to a new generation of creatives creatives from all walks of life and all over the world is nothing I love more than people who are southern and come back to the south to find their roots like like Madonna Bailey who runs the incredible Africa meets southern meets Nukes restaurant the gray in Savannah? Nobody embodies the south earthquake. She does but just a few hours south of the city nearby on some beautiful Georgian islands is where I found out lacks went. Welcome L. come up some of the results until about twenty years ago. The Jews weren't until about ten years ago and only very recently other gays welcomed in Dallas. I'm always struck by how Sheikh people on the street the most sophisticated southern city by far. Maybe the Neiman Mockus H._Q.. Downtown could take some credit and close to Lexington Kentucky. I learned about the Shaker communities who had a model of equality of the sexes in Raleigh North Carolina Michael and I became friends with a chef one of Indian descent by way of the Bronx and the restaurant tour who came to America's an adopted baby from Lao Day expressions of being southern what America's all about to me yes. I mentioned that ethnicity just to make a wide the point that the south is a place filled with everyone the stereotypes of the south a useless. I think dated they cannot just be this one idea of the south offend people like cheating and then in Raleigh they show is that every experience is valid and that every single person can open your mind but only if you let them and now everyone for a time out except for sponsors we'll be right back with mall everyone what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo having common. They're all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they GEICO wrong? Where did they go right? And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner who wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti. I'm a former tech EXEC. Turn Serial Real Entrepreneur turned T._v.. And radio host and over the course of my career I've interacted with interviewed and reported on thousands of businesses. I've seen bright beginnings that fizzled <unk> out and rocky starts that turned into shining stars so join me and my producer new Guy Nick as we dive into the decisions that led to greatness and the regular people who were able to spin straw into gold bizarre affi we'll have new episodes each week. Listen end subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts tray tables up you returning to everywhere land. Maybe it's time for a little holly chat about the south since since she is from the South Ish is she says I wasn't born in the south. I was a military kid good so I was born. In Arizona I lived in Seattle and we moved to Florida. When I was nine and then I'm moved to Atlanta for college and I never left so I am in practical sense absolutely a southerner although it's kind of funny because I sometimes find myself feeling a little between two worlds when I talked to relatives from Lake Michigan for example they think I have the thickest southern accent they've ever heard whereas when I'm in the south people are like are you a Yankee but the real question mission is the New York? Where do they think you're from? Sometimes a lot of people in New York think I'm from New York which cracks me up which I love my point of pride. Is that like if I'm working up Eighth Avenue Vigny which anybody who knows New York is like tourism central that the people who are trying to hustling sell you tickets to the any of the things like whether it's a Broadway show or to get to <hes> top of the Empire State building they ignore me completely and I'm like okay cool man. I'm blended in with New York so yeah New Yorker Stone. I don't think I've ever had an an interaction with a New Yorker. Were they. Ask you from from the south. That's interesting when I say I'm from New York people immediately say Ovid way you rarely from right and I go why why and they go well. You don't sound like you're from new. I have to say well. New York doesn't have a sound. It has exactly interestingly enough. <HES> L. is with us in studio my dog she's from Puerto Rico and very often people would ask me away so dog from and I'd say oh she's Puerto Rican and they'd be like like Oh. She's from a foreign country and I have to be like well no Puerto Rico American and they'd be like no. It's not right. There's some confusion there's still persists point. <hes> that's like a weird way way like race and diversity and ethnicity comes through like even through my dog wrong right. It's suddenly this like that's the other like she's from the other right. Everybody's just trying to process the world define things in in the simplest was boxes they can but unfortunately that leads to a sense of otherness but like I feel like because I moved to the south when I was nine which would have been nineteen eighteen eighty because I'm a very grown up person. I wasn't born yet hauling baby. I have all the life experience for you. So as I mentioned my family only move to the panhandle of Florida because my father is in the military and their bases there and I think we had been living there about two months when three lots down I'm from our house and we were in a pretty remote area of what is now a very booming beach town but there was a k.. K. K. Rally Lake completely fleet with Burning Cross and I just remember looking my parents to me like where have you moved me too and we even kind of walk down the street tentatively just because like our next door neighbors said Oh just F._y._i.. This is going on. Maybe don't go out. If you don't want to see any of that. We were like wait no that can't she can't be don't wear white pajamas. Mistreat tonight was just so bizarre but for the longest time I mean I grew up in a a community that was almost entirely white. We had one black kid in my school rule and he was a unicorn to most people you know they were like what are you like and he was like a person <hes> I always wondered if he to like had been a military military kid that just kind of link and suddenly like what is this experience and of course I was young enough to not realize those are exactly the people you should seek out and find out what their experiences because one they may need an ally in two. That's a unique situation. That is definitely a learning thing which you you're not thinking about that when your kid kid because you're dumb kid. At least I was not all kids are some are very bright and insightful so yeah it's been very interesting to see that and then living you know continuing to live in in the south as I do how we haven't haven't progressed in the intervening thirty plus years will the south to me is such a buffet perfect and easy way for anyone to learn these lessons because like I've traveled to South Africa with a black friend and have gone to a beach where the entire beach is left every single person on the left and someone said to me that is the first black person to ever come on this beach and this was two thousand and three wow that's not so long ago and this was like a segregated beach and that happened almost ten years off the pont kind ended yeah. I'm curious because I feel like you have this unique parallel but not quite the same experience being from South Africa where there is sometimes times that desire I think in the study of American history for people to go like okay the civil war happened and then abolition happen and then reconstruction and racism schism was solved and it's like no no no no and I wonder if it's similar with apartheid like maybe the the legal rules on the books have been done away with but that doesn't mean the cultural norms magically schefter sobriety rule it takes a while and it takes to me. I see it's generational like maybe maybe you grow up in a household that is racist and you don't like it so then you create a household that is not that but surely you're probably we still propagating some things and then your kids see that and they do one better and you know what I mean so I think it generation only improves not in all cases. Obviously there outliers to that that model so I do think that when I talked to teenagers today or kids in their early twenties I'm always wowed by how wise they are about embracing embracing The idea of traveling like I've spent time in Croatia where the friends that I made they had never seen a person of color because Croatia wasn't at the time so this is like maybe ten years ago it wasn't as open to tourism right and they would say things like I've never seen a person of color so I'm staring not because I'm being racist. It's because I don't know it right. I mean there and then the inverse like you go to India A. and some rural parts of India. Those people have never seen white people right and they stare at me and look at me like who's this person this alien from from wherever any it's not because you're a white person it's because Europe tropical fish walking among US human toll yes this is because I'm slightly toll and then do your tropical fish. Yeah I mean it is fascinating and it gets back to you. What you were saying about the other right like we come to understand what we're exposed to and so that's like the thing you've talked a lot about being open to meeting people and hearing what they have to say and that makes them not the other even even if they are very different from you you they're still part of the greater human experience will as I told you about my experience with Anne when I became quiet can't and was able to listen to Ami who I met at the Plantation House telling me about her life? That's when I was learning something instead of just being like my experience my way. This is how I see the south. I was willing to let somebody else explained to me their version of the south and it shocked me because the stereotypes that people have a so wrong and they based on such a small all part of the world like people say things like New York is brewed stereotype from I went always cracks me up a little bit because in my experience to me I meet some of the friendliest people I've ever met in New York Line. Why do you think the south has this reputation and that's the southern accent has reputation? The very notion of the south has a reputation well. There are certainly reasons right like we have a tag on Dr Show where we talk about. Racism is not something that only happened in the south but because it was where a lot of high profile civil rights moments moments happened. It looks like we're that link. The South is where the battle over racism was happening. The other thing too that I think is that we don't always realize how oh rooted in history. Some of these ideas are going all the way back to the civil war like two northerners. There are still roots of that idea that everyone everyone in the south is a stupid backwards person similarly. I mean I remember going to high school with I had a wonderful teacher but her family would still talk about about people north of the Mason Dixon Line as though they were the enemy like she was telling the story one day about how her brother was engaged to a woman from like Pennsylvania Kenya and it was like the families scandal weight that was more than a hundred years ago that this actually took place like you don't have to do the <hes> the Yankees versus confederacy thing. I'm not sure why this is playing out but I think that those tendrils have continued longer than people realize not everyone everyone embraces change particularly not social change in its like wild things may be progressing in one way the people that don't like it really rally the other way and those they're passing those ideas to the next generation after that et Cetera I mean it's the same thing that we talk about in terms of how we see. They're racist. This is how we see L._G._B._T._Q.. People again it goes back to that idea of their this way like it becomes that Monolithic idea of southerners are this way northerners her this way when really I mean you could meet someone from almost any place on earth and once you get over any possible like language barriers they could ticking assortment of boxes of identities and descriptors that you would find similar in almost any place in the world depending on what their culture and geography has has given them to begin with. This is why you get on the plane and you go and see everything else yes so that you can learn that everything else is the same missio yeah I mean it's so cliche but there really are more similarities than differences usually at the end of the day. I'm most people just want the basics straight they wanNA find love and connection and community and a place to call home. Everything else is Kinda gravy. I mean this is the stuff. When you talk about on your show yeah I mean that's the thing that always gets me right like we have discussed often? When people are like what is your show about? I'm like the fact that there have always always been people in the world of every stripe that we maybe we're not led to believe if you only read you know history books because those tend to be a lot of old white guys yes there have always been women have always been people of color. There have always been people all over the spectrum of gender and sexuality they were well having the human experience to and contributing to history even though maybe their stories didn't get the attention they deserve. That's why you should shut the fuck up and learn something yes but I've been talking talking an awful lot so you teach me something. If you'd like to listen to more of holly you can find her at stuff. You missed in history class which is that missed in history everywhere and social media and missed in history dot com online. Let's take a breather and we'll be right back with everywhere afterward after would from UH sponsors. I get a lot of emails about coal case all the time and usually when I look at a story I can tell them. The first five minutes probably probably happened but this is really strange. I'm Katherine Townsend host of the true crime podcast Helen gone hours asking people uh-huh What's wrong. What's wrong and we're getting the sheriff's office? He said James Dan no explanation. Janey Ward was sixteen years old. When she died died under mysterious circumstances she was at a party at a cabin in the woods in the small town of Marshall Arkansas story that she fell all report daughter would be today? I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Cheney any war on September Ninth Nineteen eighty-nine listen to hell and gone. That's H.. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio radio APP or wherever you get your podcasts the time has come for more of everywhere now. Where were we hi? They only cheesy Kamar can be both rock guitarist in an Indie band and and the owner plus chef of James Beard nominated restaurant if that's not enough she's also gorgeous <music>. I'm in Raleigh North Carolina with my dearest I friend Shakti Kumar who is the CO owner in lovely chef at a restaurant garland downtown and I'm mm-hmm in town full incredible Brown in the south which she hosted this year she welcome thank you. It's a nice to be here with you in person I am don't see you enough. Choosing view often my Indian goal by way of the the Bronx to Raleigh convoluted journey so firstly tell me what is brown on the South Okay so <hes> Brown in the south is a collective. I should say it started with five of us. <hes> Marijuana Ronnie in Asheville from Tripati Group and vish pot is a chef in Oxford Mississippi and they were at the southern food ways line symposium <hes> a couple years ago every year. The Symposium Zoom has seen and I think <hes> the Latin south was an important theme of that year and they started talking and they were wondering why we don't have that. We don't have this coalition. We don't have a voice in a platform or at least even just a a structure to have this conversation. That conversation happened with them. They just decided like let's just do dinner because food is the catalyst for we're all conversations to us so we did this dinner a year ago January in decatur marijuana restaurants and it was the five of us and it was just like a mind blowing long experience for all of us in kind of life changing. We decided to do a series on just keep doing it and with everyone we asked other chefs that are in that community and go to different cities and just like feel that city and invited people that are in that region in cooking like make it an inclusive conversation conversation so when you say Brown you mean Indian we mean Indian because we're Indian but it can mean anything because I hosted this one one. I really was considering inviting van and of our good friend Van from Laos and then it becomes a little tricky because then we can't yeah our personal experiences becomes so varied in a way that <hes> but they're also the same you know the immigrant experience is very similar and inherent as a part of being new in the country is feeling of being isolated a little bit shameful of your accent. Your childhood experiences are not the same you you didn't watch the same cartoons you didn't like immunised just a whole set of experiences that make you feel like you're Why they are they're very racist. There you know and I said no you know you just have to be here. It's different at this is not like the deep South and then I started a band and then we toured and so I did a lot of road tripping to and playing in the south is always different. It's <music> comfortable. It's uncomfortable. The food is good. The people are warm and you can judge them. If you want to but again on if you just stop and get out of the way <hes> you understand that this is a complicated place with a very slow journey and unlike I think some of the places in the country that are you know different or have a different feel. Commerce seems to be like the driving force and here I think such a part of the history of our commerce here in the south is so awful and it's so ugly. There's <hes> I think there might might've been some subconscious shift away from money as a priority so I mean there's economic reasons for commerce not being the driving force it ends up being about if you listen if you're connected to that it's about relationships and it's about a connection to history family family history and and the land and nature a little bit more. There's more space and there's more time and it's a little bit easier to live here because it is economically has been a recent history has been economically cheaper. It's a place where you can be creative without having this pressure of being you you know of compromising to make it to make more money and that's the thing that appealed to me when I was a kid just graduated college and came here. Wow you know these bands are really cool here and people practicing their house and they buy a used van from the state surplus and then they go on tour tour and they book it themselves and they're not worried about having a manager or getting a record deal and you know eventually do worry about that but it was just like you ages inventing your life you know and I think that there's a certain amount of creative invention that the south to me fosters that I did not find when I was growing up in New York in the Bronx or went to school in Massachusetts like a could not have imagined myself in Boston you know. Can you see me in Boston right. You feel so quintessentially seven to me which is beautiful because when I talk about my like quintessential southern bell friend it's you I like that I like the idea of you embodying something so southern and you'll sense of hospitality of southern like the South is not not this monolithic thing that people think like involvement of my whole journey of traveling the south was if I choose to live in America. I needed to understand the south <hes> as part of the whole needed to come in and not just see the divide. I needed to come handsy everything right and uncover that stuff off of course I may white privilege <unk> who comes from a certain place I'm clouded by my stuff but I try and travel travel in unburden myself those ideas by just being quiet and not coming to the south with my notions of what it needs to be so I arrive live and I'm like what is Raleigh Link Raleigh show-me came in and you showed me that there's a place for everyone in the south because <music> everyone and anyone can be seven. I think it's a matter of staking your claim and understanding what your intention is in being here and and yes. There's still so much to be done. Raises an issue but it's not an issue in the south. It's an issue everywhere. It's just that it's maybe a rightfully so a more present and sore wound still. It's not he'll but I feel like when I went to high school in the Bronx. You know <hes> that school was segregated. We had two separate entrances so the people on the south side came in one way and the people from the north side came in a different entrance and and in that symbol right there. It's like even in one high school. You know that's that's a big conversation for the whole country <hes> but I think <unk> I dare say that southern culture has always been pushed forward secretly by Brown and black people the white folk oke maybe own it and they have the face but really we're the ones who are pushing it and African Americans not only influenced influenced the table. They actually made the table from the seed to the play. I mean those everything had to do their hands and their history street and their <hes> their heart and their family lure that they didn't have the benefit of writing and sharing at any any official way when you have that strong culture of storytelling it becomes ingrained in the fabric of a place and that economic privileges you you know it's not everything it's it's a lot a concert we make life easier but I think that the that heart force has always been pulsing really hard in the South and the revolutions that happen to give people more rights on the civil rights movement. I mean what a beautiful story of connection and <hes> multi layers of people banding together people don't talk that much about that part of it but that's the southern history and when we talk about Brown <music> south as recent Indian immigrants I mean that's a new story to us because you know you have to also think about the immigration laws you know in we weren't really allowed to be in this country until the fifties and the Chinese people are finally allowed to be here and be north like quote normal citizens. You know there's there are a lot of forgotten laws and historical facts. That is exactly why things are the way they are. They're very specific reasons and it's a matter matter of dislike learning about it. You know I think as I've had an have been so humbled by my experience because yes I thought that the south but this one thing so how do we break up the monolithic idea the south. I think it's about experience I think it's about understanding the nuances and I think that's always the answer to most questions is to understand the nuances is not a black in white like literally it's not black and white. It is a whole many shades of brown all the other colors. I mean what what's uniting. Maybe is agriculture is maybe a way of <hes> of eating and of thinking about your neighbor <hes> ideally it's a sense sense of community in its hopefully sensitive inclusiveness really when it comes down to it. I mean you can talk about the word redneck and that can mean a whole lot of different things. I've certainly seen a lot of rednecks. Massachusetts <hes> and there's some folks here that on the surface you might say a redneck but then you start talking China and they're brilliant and talented and kind and open hearted. I mean it's really just a matter of getting into it and not just writing writing things off because of preconceived notions. That's me so for people to understand and change the notion like I would love if people can travel to the south income to places like Raleigh Greenville South Carolina Pigeon forge like go and see that right look for Dolly often and not just go to Johnston Atlanta which is amazing but is all of the stuff fi available available to you. I mean I think there's a place for all of that kind of travel but there's an artificial presentation of of a place in a culture that is sold old and it's often really fun and delicious and creative and comfortable and luxurious but then there's just a place for its own own sake you know and actually talk about this with the the visitors bureau here in Raleigh and there's a complicated conversation. How do you market a city that doesn't in have a baseball stadium or soccer stadium or like a big landmark. Were not on a river. Kinda new really in the in the scheme of things. We don't have anything that draws people except us. We realize that the end of this meeting that the draw is community immunity and those of us who <hes> have businesses are part of that but it's also just like the fact that the city embraces that and people come all the time and they come to the restaurant and they often say like I love Raleigh like it just feels really good here and I hear that so much and I think that's just because was there is an open heart here and I think that if you choose to be connected to that it's palpable and I really like being an intangible no tagline marketing scheme. You know the idea that there's nothing here just may yeah. It's a beautiful I I agree. It's not tastes certain amount of confidence to just say yeah. That's actually are draw like that's our value exactly great. Thank you love saying you thanks for hanging out connect with us on twitter at every whim pond instagram at everywhere podcast or on the website and everyone podcast dot COM <music>. I'm Daniel Chef Ler. 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"AI beats humans in multiplayer, and more. Coming up on today's episode of lace intact news. here. You're just in time for the latest episode of the world's only three and one show on tech gadgets and gaming, his that's right. This is intact news. My name is Taylor American. If you knew here it. That's the scribe button right now so that you don't miss out on the latest episode in hold off on that like button until you get to a section of the show that you actually, like now, speaking of us to, like, are you guys enjoying being office schooler, while okay if you're working really never ends for you have been on vacation, or as going to be my case in about a week or for this? Nice summer weather for all in purposes, pretty good. What's not to like, unless you pay. Nice warm weather icy. I was talking to a guy today and he said, I don't really like this. Hot and humid weather, I prefer a little bit cool. And I'm like, can't make this guy the way go k. Go live down in Texas. I don't know it for crying out loud. Anyways, our feature story that would be taking a look at today is while deep mind can now beat us at multi-player games to retaking look at that while to be taking a look at Apple's WW DC twenty nineteen in what expect from it must be taking. Look at while a leaked design for pixel four coming from Google Google leak. It obviously insider week that yet again, also be taking look at n real alight mixed reality smart glasses that I think you might find interesting also be taking look at Microsoft, bringing more games to steam, quote, we believe you should have a choice in where you buy your PC games. Yes, let's just flood the market. Oh, great idea. Why couldn't you donate before? Microsoft, okay. While to be taking a look at a remastered Ghostbusters game coming to the PS four later this year, finally will be taking look at call of duty modern warfare. Yup. The trailer drop for everything. It looks awesome. A lot of people are happy about it. Some people aren't so happy about it. I'll be getting into some of what's to lake not about it. But before we can do that. Did you know that more than fifty six million hours of music is streamed daily? I know right? I mean. Oh, and also the second did you know fact is while I'm not gonna share that today. I'm gonna share one fact with you guys today because apparently. Was enough of been told that. If I tell you too many facts at once your brain explodes, if that's the case, let me know, down to comment section on either way, it'd be great for for for me to know. I mean I could just I'm. Data head. So I'll just sit on a computer all day. Just absorb stuff. I almost feel like it's through as most is like sitting at the computer. I just absorb information. I don't know about you. I really don't play video game. I play video games somewhat. But I play more reading, and watching videos and listening to content learning stuff. So I kind of feel like a sponge at times. So all right. All that's enough of that. Moving right along to today in tech history being that today is may thirtieth 2019 honesty in history. Eighteen ninety six we have documented for posterity, or however you say that the first auto accident on record occurs in New York City when a rea- motorway gin driven by Henry. Wells collides with a bicycle written by Evelyn Thomas New Yorkers probably accused Henry of being from jersey, but he was actually from Massachusetts in either way, regardless. That kind of stunted growth for the automobile industry for many years to come. They said, why would I have an automobile do the driving for me when I can just ride a buggy or ride a bicycle under my own power in kind of mothball the whole idea. It's the first accurate did accident. It was horrible than is bad. What? Oh, it wasn't that important automobiles are still here to stay right? Oh my goodness. Smartcards story. I have to continue on with the next of what happened today. That kids me before actually flip my lid because Iran way too much about this stuff. Also on this day in nineteen ninety six AT and T announces a video phone call system, AT, and T held a meeting to announce the system that would allow personal computers to make in receive video phone calls over standard telephone lines in the years of efforts buying t in others define success in tech, the AT and T system made use of Intel's Pentium processor, that time in compression software to allow both video and audio information share a phone line rather than a high capacity. ISDN P, one or teeth reline. So now that you know that about one. What happened today in his tech history while let's actually move on with them while what's happening today? Speaking of our feature story. Right. Just one that transition so smooth. So, Chris, so fresh kind of like the story proof positive that can beat us at multi-player games, too. By the way, if you guys interested in any of the articles covered in today's show head on over to tech news. Gadget dot net show a note for today. You'll have all articles that you want. So, apparently, deep mind can now beat us at multiplayer games does article that comes to from the New York Times capture the flag a game played by children across the open spaces of a summer camp. And by professional video gamers, as part of popular titles, like quake, three and overwatch in both cases, it's a team sport each side, guards aflame, while also scheming, to grab the other side's flag and bring it back to home base winning the game requires good old-fashioned teamwork a coordinated bounce between defence and attack. So, in other words, captured flare requires what would seem to be very human set of skills. But researchers at an artificial intelligence lamb in London have shown that machines can master this game to at least in a virtual world in a paper published today in science and previously available on the website are Ziff before peer review. Researchers reported that they had designed automated agents that exhibited human-like behaviors when playing the captured aflaid game mode inside of quake three. Agents we will team up against human players or play alongside them tailoring, their behavior accordingly. They can adapt to teammates arbitrary skill said what Jackie star Necci a researcher beat might hope they got that name. Right. Alab owned by the same parent company as Google through thousands of hours of game play the agents learned very particular skills, like racing towards the opponent's Homebase when teammate was on the verge of capturing flag as human players know the moment, the opposing flake is brought to wants Homebase a new flag appeared that the opposing base ripe for the taking now. Deep mines project is part of a broad effort to build artificial intelligence that can play normally complex three dimensional video games, including quake three Doda to an starcraft too many researchers believe that success in a virtual arena will eventually automated systems with improved abilities in the real world. And just another reason why we're not going to make Terminator because terminators gonna drop in try and shoot him with a lead can is not going to do anything you just going to shoot and kill all of us. So yes and. AI and robots are planning takeover world as we speak here for as much as we know I'm probably reading this article right now. I'm not even real. Everything about that. I mean, we could be living inside of a reality so twisted that we have to have an unplugged from our head like the matrix were centrally living in a simulation and regression in little farms. Wow. Don't know but not making this up. Okay. Anyways, for instance, such skills could benefit warehouse robots as they work in groups to move goods from place to place or help self driving cars. Navigate in mass heavy traffic. See see there you go. Valid point. I'm so glad you brought this up today. 'cause I exactly wanted to go on this rant about why smart driving, self AA cars are so much better than humans for driving. Anyways at you've probably heard of me rant of this past. I don't wanna bring it up again, unless you want hear about it. If you do let me know down to count section. Yeah, you probably gonna type right now to, you promised an article on, once you get on that, well, it's a big complicated process, especially if I'm going to go in depth into this article and bring out some valid points. I don't want this to be short couple of paragraphs long article I wanted to be well researched have valid points. A quote a couple of people on it, and studies on it and other articles on too. So little bit away, and it's still hot topic for the most part hasn't really died out. So it'll come eventually so games have always been a benchmark for AI said, Greg Brockman who oversees similar research at open base in San Francisco. If you can't solve games, you can't expect to solve anything else until recently billing system that could match human players in a quake like game three did not seem possible, but over the last several years, deep mind, opening I and other labs have made, so. Significant advances. Thanks to a mathematical technique called reinforcement learning, which allows machines torn tasks by extreme trial and error by playing a game over and over again and automated agent learns which strategies bring success, and which do not if an agent consistently wins more points by moving towards an opponent's Homebase when he made is about to capture flake it adds tactic to its arsenal of tricks, while humans zoo in real life. Now in two thousand sixteen to Saint fundamental technique deep mine. Researchers built a system that could beat the world's top players at the ancient game of go the eastern version of chess many experts had thought this would not be accomplished for another decade given the enormous complexity of the video game while technology proven wrong again there so yeah, what do you guys think? Good bad. Otherwise sign love to hear your thoughts on comment section below I'm actually kind of by stuff. I love learning about a I in and automation. And I'll everything that comes along with it, obviously, it's built upon layers and layers and layers of complex programming. This isn't easy stuff to code into a computer. You don't just type in. Line. Linux coda says do my laundry for me and a robot immediately knows. Oh, do my laundry. The do my laundry is at the top of the list in terms of coding, and Bill into that is like pages and pages of code of. Here's how you go and walk over to laundry, all you pick up on dri variable for this. You're the variables for that. And here's the variable variable, variable variable, put all this together in a big old complex web. Definitely takes a group collective mind of programming coating and trial and errors and fixing stuff and breaking stuff, and I can't tell you how many times it's probably been broken over and over and over and over again. But suffice it to say I'm glad I'm not in that kind of. Profession, because like I've said in the past before on other topics I'd probably be both. So that's lamb here. Reporting on news for you guys. So there you go. Fun with that. Moving on to our next article, what to expect from Apple's WWE. See twenty nineteen so last year's WW DC was a rare step away from hardware, for the company without a single device announcement, even on it kind of leak stuff. What later on. In fact, apples, gadget lines have largely been the subject of quite releases over the past year ahead, a Big Apple TV unveiled a company issued several press releases highlighting minor updates the flakes wines, just like week it did the same for the MAC book with a quite announcement around the lakes attempt to resolve longstanding issues with the malfunctioning keyboards next week developer show on the other hand shaping up to be something entirely different all signs point to a big load of announcements, including potentially some pro hardware, now after fairly slow I o and build apple could really make a splash companies, not immune from larger industry trends, and is kind of had across that a moment. It's last financial call highlighted shifting focus away from hardware in towards services in content, make sense after all smartphone sales have slowed. Across the board. Just as the company started making massive investments in content through apple TV, plus although, adding pluses stuff, help solve anything just making waterdown stupid anyways. That's my own opinion. Not the authors here. Of course. WW DC is at heart developer show in. Monday's kickoff keynote is very much for the public at large. The true nature of the show is highlighting. What's new with Apple's various operating systems. So the biggie is thirteen and we got some photos on screen here right now, I will say that if you're listening to the podcast, you are missing out and video if you want to see the video of today's show, head on over to YouTube dot com for tech news. Gadget now leaks already started and a big new so far is system wide dark Mon following in a foot steps of MAC OS easier on the eyes and battery expect the update take much the same form as it did on a desktop, starting with Apple's on apps and more third party partners following in the in the coming months. So. Bloomberg's got a bunch of additional features for Iowa's thirteen which has been reportedly operating under the codename, Yukon and unsurprisingly. The health is getting a makeover. In fact, expect health to be a big focus for the company yet again at the event native support for duet display or display, like second screen ipad, functionality has been rumored to be north for awhile in personal note. Support will only make things better mail maths in homes are said to be receiving updates as well. There will be bug fixes throughout, as well said to make the system operate. Better on new end old systems alike, upgrading, perhaps attested acknowledgement of the fact that consumers are simply holding onto devices for longer. Periods of time. Gooden's. It's like it's difficult to figure it out. It's like if somebody likes the gadget that bought good quality, make it last also will be looking at MAC, OS ten point fifteen much smartphone. Two PC very much in a transitional space, though. It's identity crisis has been ongoing since it was completely overshadowed by smartphone. So for apple means reclaiming the throne of king from the creative professional's trying to pull the title away from it to start things off the companies once again, going to borrow liberally from west to company showed off a trio of APs news. Stocks voice memos of the preview of the upcoming ability, deport apps to the desktop that attempt to foster MAC app development code named marzipan. We'll take center stage IOS crew features include screen time, I message effects NCAA shortcuts, along with updates to a handful of existing MAC apps. As for hardware, we'll Samak hardware here along the way to rival of MAC. Pro but take this grain of salt. Because while we've all been burned before as previously noted apple hit pause on that category, which plans to completely revamp the high end desktop. The I MAC pro has dressed the need for some but for many pros with demanding workloads, there's been eight tranche can't shape hole in your heart just about all signs appear to point to long waited. Refresh arriving next week it, oh for recently rumored, thirty one point six inch six Cape pro display, which would fit nicely alongside the pro and smoldering ashes of your checkbook, also off this Apple's most recent event was all about apple TV to company had a lot to show off, at Fronton while redesign app has already arrived, expect a company to continue talking up apple TV, plus the forthcoming billion dollar cable, premium content offering from the company, last time apple talked up the apple watch it had some transit news to discuss that goes live in New York tomorrow, by the way in terms of health front to have a lot more stuff coming with that as well. So to our voice mental calculator. And e book apps, the party, get started Monday, Kenny and Pacific, one PM eastern and tech crunch will be there with live blogging. Breaking news than old, bunch of fun stuff there, the WDC kicks off in San Jose on June. Third. So there you go. There's your announcement at least apple is for today's up so yeah. Sitting there, trying to figure out how how to best way to end it and sideways into something new. I didn't I just kinda killed it just like. Nope. So moving onto more tech news Google insider weeks. A stunning pixel for design. Now, if you didn't know Google pixel three as by far, the best of five hundred dollars phone, you can buy put the pixel for is where most excitement lies and easy to see. Why in a new tweet slash leaks to site. Renou run by remarkably accurate leakers. Stephen Henn for staffer has revealed the pixel for has an all new design and it shows Google will finally give the pixel range, some style at the perfect, hybrid of the galaxy S ten plus any iphone X s following years of wrapping great tech, inundated chassis slash lease obtained its image V8. case maker, ski Nomi, which is so confident in the sources already taking preorder from customers, bad news. However, it's the Komi, it's only selling a screen, protector at the stage, so we don't get a look at the back of the. Phone with Google widely expected to move the pixel range to dual, or even triple cameras aqui point of interest accidents, confirmed the pixel four back in March, but until now too key details have larger Lee remained a mystery this in complete contrast to the pixel three which arguably was mostly smartphone of last year. So we'll see image of it so far. So here's your quick Google pixel for news for today. All right. Moving on some more gadget newsy and real light mixed reality. Smart glasses is debuting for five hundred US dollars. In real said it will sell its mix reality smart glasses for five hundred dollars later this year. The company also said that a developer addition is available today for twelve hundred the Beijing based company made the announcement at the augmented world expo event today in Santa Clara, California, now, the author here tested out the three ounce glasses yesterday. They're both light on their head and amazingly bright, which was a rare combination are quite impressed. By it and real, which has partnered with Qualcomm and LG you plus can do this because it connects glasses via a USB see wire to a smartphone or most of the computing is done. So, yes, sorry guys, you have to walk around with plugging to accord, it looks a little bit awkward, but it's to be fair pretty light. So recently unreal announced it had raised an additional sixteen million in funding from China Everbright, limited new economy fund, and bunch of other places. Now in terms of what's behind the tech for this. It uses the Qualcomm, Snapdragon eight forty five mobile processor, glasses have a wide fifty two degree field of you. In high definition, Kenny P resolution and real said it can be worn for hours at a time since they don't wait much more than ordinary glasses over time. The company wants to tap five G wireless networking tech to deliver full mixed reality experiences to consumers. The four hundred ninety nine dollars package called the N real light consumer kit will ship later this year with Enron white glasses, which can be connected by USB cable directly to compatible x our atomised devices. Powered by the Qualcomm, Snapdragon eight fifty five mobile. Perform. So looks like it provides a lightweight X, our viewer that allows consumers to take advantage of five G including high bandwidth, and low latency to deliver immersive experiences virtually anywhere. So. Pretty impressive here. Looks like they're partnering with carriers including China Mobile, telecom, Unicom ee, KDDI, KT algae, you. Plus SoftBank Corp and Swisscom it will be available as decay wise in August of twenty nine nineteen so yeah, impressive, and this is all we got so far. So if you're looking for something white some fancy some fast, at least what they're hoping. The N real smart glasses. I swear heard Walter in the background, but I'll just continue on with them like it wasn't here. Walter, the squawking dog or dealing opera doc look it up on new if you're looking for a laugh so moving onto some gaming news. Microsoft is bringing more games to steam because says we believe you should have choice in where you buy your PC games. So in a big move for its approach to PC gaming Microsoft has announced that his planning to bring more XBox game studios to steam freeing them from the confines of Microsoft's because apparently, it's going so well for them. Net source off isn't good dead and gone. It's part of Microsoft plans to bring the experts game pass scripture into the P C, which also announced today, but it will no longer be the only way to play those first party games on PC our intent is to make our experts game studios PC available in multiple stores including our own Microsoft's Windows. At watch, we believe you should have the choice in where you. By PC games. Fill fill Phil. You can figure this out sooner. It's not that difficult. Where do you think all of your people reside the multiple platforms multiple programs? It's not that difficult. You're software company for crowds Krant. So in the past Microsoft support esteem has been spotty most of its new games. Have remained exclusive to the Microsoft store, which means they're only available as universal windows apps container use on modern windows with a number of drawbacks for many games, you'll as or not nearly as opened a modding overlays tools like Reshat and have largely been unpopular with PC gamers who care about those features. Hence the reason why Minecraft was such a big thing. And yet I beat my drum all by myself in the corner. Salty tears. Yes. No. I'm I'm feeling really bad for notch right about now. Some of Microsoft strategy games halo awards have already been released on steam and a real prelude. Today's announcement was news at the master chief collection will be rolling on steam starting this year starting with halo reach today's announcement of game names. Let's see eight of empires when three definitive addition gears fives. The first games coming to steam they don't mention games. Currently exclusive to the Microsoft store like we'll see fees or for the horizon beyond air, but steam releases them it seems like a good possibility to crossover as well. Enabling gamers to play together through cross platform play in cross network play across windows. Ten PC's council is vitally important voting communities across all these players regardless of the store or platform. Nave chosen is also vitally important, because it helps bring players together allows games to find their largest audience, and allows gaming delivers true potential of uniting people around the power of play. I'm so glad. Microsoft, you finally figured this out? Now, currently open question about how will this whole matchmaking friendless worked for XBox games like see these steam, but Microsoft has a plan for halo in a strong interest in cross platform support and seeing how they announced the partnership with Sony could be seeing something hopefully more fruitful coming out of that. But we might not here for some time. So, hey, go. Seems like article than just goes on to explain more stuff. Microsoft will be talking more about his PC plans, including the game pass at e three press conference on June nine so there you go. Gaming news. You guys like Ghostbusters. Well, remastered game it's coming to the PS four this year. Oh, and by the way, also released the first trailer today, so ten years ago, the original Ghostbusters video game debuted now the game is being remastered for PS four in, according to the trailer released today. It should be available sometime. This year fans might be happy to know that all the original in game videos were found on a hard drive that belonged to one of the game Ghostbusters video game creators. So you can expect millier scenes, remastered in four K, as well as enhanced textures in lighting, you'll recognize voices in likenesses of the original cast, members, Dan ackroyd herald remiss Bill Murray in Hudson were involved in two thousand nine game not a remastered. Version doesn't stray from the original storyline, which was penned by acrid Rambus picks up, right? Where Ghostbusters two left off. Neil joined the cast members as a new recruit learning to hunt and Ringo. Goes through New York City while the original game was available on XBox three sixty three. PC is appears to be PS four exclusive according to PlayStation, in should be ready sometime this year. And so we have you guys. So if you're interested in ghostbuster, they, there's a trailer for you can quit the article Lincoln enjoy. And finally, well, call of duty news, Colin duty modern warfare looks at cross play, and it's dropping a season pass so call duty modern warfare twenty nineteen entry into long running franchise, making some significant changes to call duty formula by reimagining of Infinity Ward's, two thousand seven classic. The game will feature continuity, consistency across all of its game modes, meaning character progression will carry over between them and guns will feel the same in multiplayer as in single player. I didn't notice the difference beyond that there are changes coming should be good news for all fans who pick up the game when it releases on October twenty fifth specifically those who don't wanna play pay for new mass, but do want to play with those different platforms. So he's got planned for that Infinity ward, activision shared the welcome news in a press release dropped long-sighted first modern warfare trailer, which will is included or you can see on YouTube Ross play will be available across PC, PS four x. Box. One letting players on any platform, jump into a match with those on no system that still fairly uncommon which only permits to be playable across foreign Xbox One. In other surprising news is that modern more filler will not have the traditional season passed in which passed players were required to buy. An order trees eve, new mass over the course of the year after college duty games release instead post, release maps and events for modern warfare will be free for all mimicking shift. We seen many competing games, make will because you can cash in better that way, cheese. Both feature should go a long way to help keep the call of duty player base together without limiting them to plane with people on the same platform in who owned the same mats, they do in general, there should be a whole lot more people to play against it. May also make the call duty eastward seen a little bit more welcoming as players will be able to compete on their preferred platforms. Although will they be able to topple apex legends? That is the question one thing that is not chain. Ching that it will have timed exclusive content, and a PS four. We don't know all the details at this point, but much like last year's blackouts for the wind will only be seven days, which is the much shorter than thirty day window Qods exclusively used to be. So they showed that off. So a lot of it's looking awesome. So far story wise, single player tech, that's going along with it along with remaining story. Infinity word said, it's working to make modern warfare more relevant to the current world and drew inspiration for the game story from real world, conflicts, documentaries, about them as well as recent Hollywood movies, also, it seems. I want to say this because I ran across it if it's confirmed or not. I don't know what we noted on account section. But I do not believe that zombies will be in call of duty modern warfare twenty nineteen. So those of you who were interested in zombie mode, there will be no zombies. So I could be wrong, but it could also be right. 'cause I swear on articles that would be. Zombies in either case seems like finally gearing up to be finally something interesting once again so good luck. That's guys say. In with that wraps up this of Intech news. Thanks for tuning in guys. Keep in mind that next week, there will be no shows for the first week of June. I'm on vacation. So there will be a show tomorrow. 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Crush to Judgment: Stranger Things Season 3

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Crush to Judgment: Stranger Things Season 3

"This episode is brought to you by Cox With Contour T._v.. From Cox you can find all your favorites all in one place. It doesn't have the Youtube you bet net net flicker thing net flicks too and although superhero movies were has all the latest titles on demand. Oh my grandkids love that big being green guy. I prefer the one with the hammer myself okay. I think we're done ear now. Get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on contract TV from Cox. Welcome to movie crush a production of iheartradio the hey everybody welcome to a very special Wednesday edition of crushed a- judgment where we are not going to crush a film all aw what are we going to crush a series that's right. This is an S._T.. Three C. T. G. Whoa did you practice that in private in the mirror her now and you're alone times. No I do other things in my London. There are many things one can do in there for nightmare <hes> yeah. I'm excited do all all right so <hes> stranger things is a T._v.. Show no on net flicks. We've had quite a few people on the show that work on stranger things we've had <hes> an we got called out by the net flicks P._r.. Department for having guest on to talk about about the show without and promote it without clearing it without his express written permission. We've talked about that before no need to rehash all that but no I say let-bygones-be-bygones Nikon's and we will still talk about T._v.. Show and promote it as best we can because it's really great and here's my deal with season three and we'll get into it good. Not Great is my review overall interesting. What's Yours I? I liked it a hell of a lot better than season to see a really was a fan of season two. It's interesting. I I realized realized in watching season three that I didn't remember as much from season to as I as I would have thought sure I remember lots from season one. I remember bits from season to I remember Bob R._I._P.. R._I._P.. Bob Yeah I. I liked <hes> Sean. Astin the plot was a little more amorphous to me but this one it kind of like knew what it was doing and it kind of like hit hit the ground running with the Russians. I liked it. You know it was yeah. It was silly silly. It's a silly show. I think the more I have have gone overseas in three the more I do like it <hes> because my problems with it can be vanquished just by saying chuck. Just don't think about it. Just watch it yeah because part of me was bug does like the Russians like seriously they built a underground research facility in Indiana. No one knows knows how did that happen. Logistics like and then I was like dude. You can't do that with the show. No just go with it. It's it's literally like the tropes are half the fun. Yeah the moment you start picking those apart than stops being fun. Yeah I mean I will mention the few problems I had. That's one problem I thought it was. I thought they crossed the line a bit with the fan service in the eighties nostalgia trip <hes> just a just a little too heavy handed at the expense of story like you you know the the scene with <hes> when they talked about new coq like the only reason they put that in there was as a just sort of like hey everybody remember new coke. Well not only that it was a product tie in they released new coke. I know as yeah yeah it's all new COQ t-shirt the other day and it just didn't like just stuff like that like hey. Let's put in a thing about new coq. <hes> doesn't advance a story at all but you know. I don't know that bugs me. It gave the kids a moment to talk about nerd stuff you know now because I think one of the kids really liked it and the other kid didn't get it yeah and that was that he didn't bug me the bugs you but I mean that's not enough to ruin a T._b.. Season to be sure let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls he has. There's plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however when in a most nesting doll here's the GEICO not only saves people money but also has been providing getting great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer pity the innermost nesting dollond her lot in in life things I love no I loved the <hes> loved the shopping mall summer thing right which is a Gwinnett place mall. That's right here in the Atlanta Metro area. That's right. I texted our old friend. Craig who was on this very show worked the art department <hes> Midway episode and I was like where'd you get this texted right back when that place out near my mom's house and so is that like did they take over that Mall Mall is that a dead mall like what not a dead mall which I thought they did. I was like what Dead Mall did. They you right <hes> because my first thought was <hes> the dead mall of all dead malls over North Dakota cab. which is I worked at the gap? It's twenty five years ago. It's still kicking taft head. Literally like fifty percent of the stores are closed and has this weird outlet store furniture store where every on pallets raft in like shrink wrap. It's very strange. Though weirdest store in the weirdest malls a very weird they paint your own pottery place but we digress malls are weird in general but this one the it's worth visiting just to see it also because as you can see a blockbuster movie there for six bucks and the theater also has like more Bollywood movies than American movies because the neighborhood is very heavily the closest theater to me so I will go there sure sometimes I I've been there. Plenty cheap doesn't make sense. I think it's cheaper than other A._M._C. Theaters. No it's way cheaper six dollars. He's like throwing three bucks. That's wild. It's like the eighties dollar theater. It's not a bargain theater. No I run. I run. We digress we digress but malls those are weird is my point and I think this is like this is like the classic Premium Mall of the eighties that we're seeing in the show where it's like this you you know oh the the the future is here in Hong Yeah you know and the meeting place of all meeting places be seen and all that stuff yeah they got the jazzercise assize Front for it in the show but wasn't a chance so where you go in the store I mean it was like a storefront in the mall jazzercise sure I didn't realize that was a thing yeah. I thought it was just a style of a popular style of yeah. I guess it was a of formal like a <hes>. What would you call it like <hes> the ship people do now like you know pure bar array or something like that yeah that's the one where crawfish fans or not yoga but it was very specifically branded jazzercise right which clearly two guys who work out a lot. Hopefully I got my leg warmers on right now so I did love them all experience a thought the one thousand nine hundred five again again the summer thing because you know usually it was like around. Halloween and <hes> fall creeping into winter right so it was fun to see the summer and the pool scene and stuff like that and I think they nailed it. One of the biggest things that annoyed me was the <hes> the the the story you know they divide into three storylines basically three different groups that are all doing their own thing. Yep and the group that bugged me was the one with choice and hopper over yeah they just. I don't know man he hopper bug me. The season told me he said you tell us to agro and kind of grumpy he was away. I mean I know he's sort of the grumpy sheriff he was far too grumpy bordering on unlikable and that's not hopper hopper yeah but he had a band a bone to pick with something thing well. He got initially upset because <hes> eleven and Mike were always kissy faces for sure but that wasn't enough to warrant and how angry he became like everything and I agree you know it was a little out of character. You didn't have as much of a motivation because they you know there are previous seasons where it was just going wild and he was bummed out about his daughter's death and stuff none of that was happening for him in this when he was literally. I here's another problem I had. I had a problem with this. People literally early acted like none of the events of the previous season's had taken place yeah and in terms of like being triggered by stuff or like the OH. It's certainly possible that some fucking weird shit could be going on because of the last two seasons of the show but hopper's leg joyce. You're crazy. Shut up Joyce. There's no way there's no way there's some weird stuff happening happening here in Hawkins. That's a little weird a lot of that yeah and they the whole <hes>. I know what they were doing. There were sort of taking a moonlighting approach again again with the eighty s nostalgia with their relationship like will they won't they but I didn't buy like she was still so heartbroken over Bob Right and like there was no chemistry there. It seemed very forced there will they won't they relationship and hopper comes off as kind of a slubby kind of Creighton in terms of like you know the way he reacts to her being late for the date and stuff he did so blows up and was just a total dick like she's got no reason to give him another shot. You know okay. I know it's weird yeah. So that's kind of bug me. I will say though that once <hes> Gilman comes on the scene I love him and the Alexi Alexi acce- The it picked up a little steam there because Alexi I mean we hate to see him gone. I think I think everyone loved Alexia Lexi. My kid is in love with Alexi. She's so great he's like one like equals one slurpy for Alexis she posted like all these the kids so we watch the whole thing when it dropped like on in July fourth in a day and then in one day in what we watch most of it and then we walked the last two the second day but <hes> yeah we were both we're both obsessed and we watched wash it together and it was great so that's one storyline. <hes> the other storyline you have is <hes>. Steve they pair up. Steve again with Dustin and and <hes> and a new character Ethan Hawke in Uma Thurman Stars Right. What was her name in the in the show here. Hey Robin Bronco that make that up. Maybe yes it was robin. <hes> and I thought she was really good. Great Love me some Steve. He's my favorite character on the show he's so likable and he was such a Dick. I think they realized realized that the actor whose name escapes me right now <hes> the Duffer burgers dreary yeah the the brother is the creator of the show realized he had something and yeah. They wrote more stuff for him. They wrote a redemption for him because he was such a fan favourite so funny. I love the one line he has in the season about his hair being his best his best feature or whatever and also like he keeps getting turned down because he's like by women at the ice cream shop because he's says we're in this goofy sailor outfit and he has no real prospects for the future and he knows this you know but so good. I really liked her character and I really think where they surprised me was <hes> doing the non obvious thing and having Stephen Robin Hook up by making her gay yeah. I thought that was really get subverted a trope it was wonderful. It was great because it wasn't forced at all absolutely made sense and you you you. It was a it was a twist where you were like. She's she's obsessed with Steve Right but she's actually only obsessed with Steve because the her crush is obsessed with Steve. He's like what what does he have that. I don't have a different way but it strengthens their friendship. It's a real bond between them and they have this with their on truth serum or something thing in there to ride on the bathroom floor king and that is such a awesome scene yeah that was good. It's just good writing. I enjoy the relationship was so cool and at the end end <hes> at the end of the season I think when they go to the video store the end yeah like he's got garbage taste right right but that's what makes him him you know and <hes> and I really totally backs them up and she's like Oh. I read something I agree. She is an example of sort of like the brother. <hes> will's brother in the first season of an eighties person. That's not just a cookie cutter eighties person like she's into like foreign films uh-huh yeah and like more like punk type music as opposed to like you know the the flavor of the week kind of eighty stuff right so she represents that same way that <hes> the brother did like in the first season yeah. I thought she was good man. She's good actor good pedigree interesting look. I'm down with it down with the with my hawks doc. She's she's a hawk. Got It yeah. She had occasionally she would turn her head. It'll be like man Uma Thurman you can see it right there so if I actually just read that a couple of days ago I didn't know for that at all. Yeah I liked Dustin again. I like Dustin again a very lovable character <hes> he had a nice character arc. I think with having the girlfriend a friend <hes> is she real or not <hes> but I have to say no the part that gave everyone so many feels the never ending story thing. You didn't like it well. I didn't see the never ending story so. Oh I had no idea what it was and so it it was it was lost on me until it seemed like it drug on forever and I was like a little indulgent fan service but people it's special to them so I get why they did it. Yes so the never ending story for me was a big deal. It was a movie that kind of creeped me out when I was a kid. There's there's a lot of kind of like spooky things in that for like you know like a ten year old or nine year old would have been a little bit much. There's a really depressing scene where <hes> there's a character into trey who has a horse and the horse dies tragically sinking into the swamps of sadness. Oh go ahead is like one of the most like Oh. There's your childhood ruined for or you're right there. You know literally horse slowly sinking into this murky kind of toxic looking swamp as a tray you cries and begs for him to not die and yeah ask that was a big one so yeah that was that was a big move for me and that song is Giorgio. Moroder did all the music. It's the dude from Kaj Goo Goo. I want to say do Linnell but <hes> it was totally indulgent but I loved it. Yeah I get it was also a big time waster. They literally were like like racing the clock. I mean they're going to sing the whole that's what bugs me is. It was it just went on for too long but fine I get it again didn't ruin anything for me. <hes> and I will say that those <hes> walkie-talkies they used. I had that exact walkie-talkie not that kind of range so well. No I'm just saying nostalgia firing off in my brain snaps. What would the range of been on that model? I don't know man I don't remember I mean probably not more than one hundred feet say certainly seemed like they were had some magical walkie-talkies oh yeah but again you just got to suspend that disbelief suspended everything for the show a lot of emails about cold-case all the time and usually when I look at a store I can tell them the first five minutes what probably happened but this one is really strain. I'm Katherine Townsend host of the true crime podcast podcasts Helen going in our asking people what's wrong. What's more we got into the sheriff's Office? He said James Dan no explanation. Janey Ward was sixteen years old when she died under mysterious circumstances she was at a party at a cabin in the woods. In the small town of Marshall Marshall Arkansas Rob Story that she fell off my daughter would be I'm heading back to Arkansas Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie Ward on September Ninth Nineteen eighty-nine listen to hell and gone that's H.. E. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts and then you have your your third group which I guess is Nancy and Jonathan <hes> and the whole subplot with <hes> billy and with the right which is bill which ended up being a biggie yeah that the the whole Nancy drew you know crack reporter thing that was fun. Her hair was great great. They really nailed it. They really and <hes> Jonathan wasn't sort of under underplayed this season and he was just not in it very much much. You know just kind of a non entity you know he he didn't really do anything important. He just kind of backed her up which is nice well. It's interesting is it sort of <hes> was a subversion of the <hes> bectal test yeah like he was kind of only there to assist her ex right that I thought was smart. That's that's good. <hes> I know the Dick's Jacob Abuse he was he was one of the Dixon her office right love him as a psychopath he got his though he totally got his but that was the reason they hired him so that he could be a total. You know <music> skulking slapshot psychopath yeah when he finally got turned into a monster yeah yeah for sure what was your opinion of just the whole will the whole thing though I mean Russians aside the flair or whatever yeah like my take was like uh I need more season for than just another bigger monster agree they can't just get bigger monsters and expect to be the thing well and and also like spoilers obviously <hes> you know they end the season with you. Feeling like hopper is dead right <hes> because there's a giant explosion in with the <hes> the Russian death-ray they're using to open up the portal right. My whole thing is like why are they trying to open up the portal through the Russian yeah well. We don't know the whole the thing and I was talking to my friend. That was sort of like you know. It was the Cold War any upper-hand was the upper hand so maybe they could figure out a way to open the portal. They could use the things that came out of their for their benefit. You have a post credit sequence where there's like those dogs or the demagogues or whatever they have like obviously onto or hold out of the portal <hes> so maybe that's a and they said whatever not the American the American so they you know they act like hopper was incinerated but then they give you some up that he wasn't and I kinda wonder under if they reserve that in the post credit sequence to see if he was going to be a big star with the hell boy movie how you think it's kind of <hes> didn't happen hold onto their cards unless wonder because it's such a shit move to like have a fake out death like that you know I wonder if like maybe it was going to be real and now they realize actually he'll sign on again because hell boy tanks right and the American. They're like well. It could be hopper could be you know fuck. It could be Bob that also could have been a line. They bullied in as opposed to you know what I mean. Mike later on yeah totally a little like it was clearly not the point of that scene. It was like a little kind of like a nugget that you caught on the side but <hes> I thought wills Dell's <hes> it's interesting because they're all growing up but will just physically had the biggest leap totally and growth spurt is not the little kid anymore. He's in that very much that awkward stage. I love the way they wrote him where he was kind of hanging onto like youth in like you know a nerdy kid basements or sweet and then he had to like you kind of smashed smashed up his fort and stuff and they even implied a little bit that he might be gay yeah for sure which I thought was cool as he's the only one you know that everyone's paired off right right and and even <hes> even Dustin you know his paired off with his <hes> Internet girlfriend ham radio girlfriend yeah exactly that was the original Internet go eh yeah and he's left alone. I thought it was a nice little character art agri. It was good. I think that was my thing overall. There were lots Than ever and it was clear it was on screen. You know bigger better more <hes> so I get it but at the same time I was like you know when they were in the cabin in the mind player was sending its pinnacles through the windows smashed that fucking cabinet of course in a second yeah then I was like Chuck shut up. Stop It. Let it happen. Just let it happen happen. I Love Billy. He was eight boy. He was really bad man. Yeah he's already bad on the second season well yeah that's true true but then in this one he even got it wasn't it was sort of a redemption Ark I guess but it was like you kind of realize the shit that he went through that made him the Shitty kid that yes amy now and it was about his being neglected leaving and all that stuff and that was that was effective and then when he actually does get killed. You've you've felt something for him as opposed to just being a mindless shell of like a villainous you know <hes> you moyle saw the background you know in the in the the fact that he was a boy who was hurt right <hes> I thought the about the relationship with eleven and Mike was was very cute in sort of <hes> at first I was like come on man like why do they even break up but then I remembered back to being that age in like sometimes you would break up because like your like the smallest little thing or you think your friends. Your friends think you should break up in like why are you in broken up and is that at that age where none of it makes sense right and especially for eleven who's only just starting to acclimate to like life as a normal teenager whatever it's extra kind of poignant get for her right for sure way more susceptible to that stuff but also the same time like kind of comes from a different world than that so it's interesting to see her kind of all that stuff and yeah well and she was being brought along by <hes> who's the other girl I can never remember. Her name is a boy's name. She's really great. She's so good and <hes> I thought that she thought those two hooking up and you know the boys. Our boys gross like boys are wasted time that whole I kinda was Kinda Fun. One was in real estate was fine so overall I I enjoyed it. I think I did too. I want more but then he enjoyed it. Yeah I WANNA season four <hes> <hes> just a need to see. I think they're leaving Hawkins. Which I think is a good move? I think so if I'm not mistaken everyone moves at the end of the the other going to Chicago right Oh I didn't. I didn't catch that the shrink the deal interesting going. I mean that's what you do. When you live in Indiana? nowheres Ville in the ASS right you move to Chicago Yeah <hes> Chicago Land U._S._A.. That's that's right I I I think I do WanNa see a city version of this and something a little bit bigger. I'll they've certainly got the budget for it. But who all left at the end was that it was a lot it was but who say behind is what I'm trying to. It almost felt like I mean yeah. Gosh I think Nancy stays behind right or does she go shit. I don't remember remember either. I just know it was a big exodus. It was definitely eleven and <hes> and will bill and <hes> wills mom. She's living with them now. <hes> Joyce's family in a powerless eleven prepare to move out of pocket right <hes>. Mike Promises L. that she will recover her powers and you know when she gives her hopper speech <hes>. I thought that was really nice. It's very nice. It's a nice way to end the season. It was nice because he didn't never see him. Do the full version Nita saw him kind of stumble as way. If the speech he gives to eleven and Mike to be like hey pipe down you kids get a room. Yeah don't get a room but like there's a whole part of the end where he really liked puts it on the table for how much he loves eleven and all that feeling sweet well. I think that's all I have yes aim. I enjoyed it. I want more stranger things I want. I don't want eight seasons though now I think they're gonNA kill it after four are they. That's what I heard is it is it pre determined hang might be. I think it's a good idea. You know. You're on dodgy ground there with the kids because you know I don't know if anyone wants to see these kids in in their late teens or twenty tends towards shorter series as well like even four seasons for a Netflix show is kind of a lot and that shows how successful this is <hes> yeah. I'm looking forward to and really want to see what the duffers have in store for us next <hes> this is kicked off it had already kicked off but I think this season in particular has kicked off in eighties wave <hes> because I saw the new American horror story. Have you seen the little teaser it's <hes> A._H._S.. eighty-five okay or eighty four and <hes> it is a summer camp slasher like Friday the thirteenth fine. I'm into that yeah yeah even though it's getting <hes> sort of made fun of online because the teaser look very much like wet hot American summer we're like we supposed to be laughing bizzare scare. That's the thing about American horror story is so schlocky lucky and it's a good first season two that I didn't see anything else I kind of asked. The point is like it's it's absurd yeah. It's over the top. Sometimes it's scary. Sometimes it's just like stupid. Well eighties mania is hit hard. <hes> in that is why no my band is doing an eighties new wave set at Portugeuse this year nice in mid October her in our neighborhood in Atlanta straight yeah when invite people out to that <hes> emily's got a keyboard bar keyboard she's learning and and we're doing breakfast club and we're doing. That's amazing. I want to go the the cars just what I needed and we're doing psycho killer and <hes> don't you forget about I mean I have some sense man I can. I can play lead lines back you guys it's been a lot of fun. I got nothing else. You get now man how many times out of how many five eighty five you know. I'M GONNA give it a three point. Seven five thumb's got I'M GONNA go with a solid foams all right not bad. No I think it was quite good. Yeah all right everyone we want to hear from you. Let us know what she thought about stranger things and that's our question judgment the next time for more podcast from iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen into your favorite shows what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo having common. They're all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong? Where where'd they go right? And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road owed and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART

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If Books Could Kill

Hit Man

33:27 min | 1 year ago

If Books Could Kill

"<music> hey it's josh megawatts from dateline. Do you need your true crime fix on the go they line episodes are now available in podcasts. You can listen in the car or on the beach or wherever the summer takes you mysteries with a twist from dateline subscribe now so don't miss an episode before we get started. I want to let you know that hitman contains graphic scenes of violence. Listener discretion is advised. I'm going to tell you about this book. I found if you saw it on a shelf. You might think it was a comic book or silly pulp novel the covers purple with james bond on dick tracy looking guy on the front wearing a bright yellow suit and a fedora. He's holding up a gun with a silencer attached and behind him. There's this this red outline of a body and on the back cover is a crude drawing of handcuffs a bottle of poison a knife some red gloves and that same gun the book's title even sounds kind of ridiculous. It's called hitman a technical manual for independent contractors. It was published in nineteen eighty. Eighty three by a colorado publisher called paladin press. Here's how the author rex farrell begins. A woman recently asked how aw i could in good conscience read an instruction book on murder. Oh and we got an actor to read his lines you. How can you live with yourself. Someone on uses what you write to go out and take a human life wind. Rex farrell has very specific tips for these spiring contract killer he he writes step by step. You will learn where to find employment how much to charge and what you can and cannot do with the money earned and beyond all his logistical stickle secrets because of this book is full of those he takes it a step further. He walks you as if you're his apprentice through the mental preparation at takes i for a person to commit murder like how to handle the emotions he says you won't feel after your first job you at wonder if so you would feel compassion for the victim media guilt or even experienced direct intervention by the hand of god put you weren't even feeling sick and by the side of the body. It's hard to get your hands on an actual copy of hitman. It's been out of print since nineteen ninety nine. I'd i discovered it. When i was researching a story for another radio show they wanted pitches about amateurs stories as of ineptitude and failure but also people who'd stumbled into success despite dubious qualifications that was five years ago. I thought it would be this little eight minute piece but it turned into this eight episode podcast on the back of the book. It says ferrell is a hit man. He is the last recourse in these times when laws are so twisted. The justice goes unserved. He is a man who controls his destiny through his private private code of ethics who feels no twinge of guilt that doing his job. He is a professional killer. Rex failed talks a lot a lot about how to stay anonymous in recommends using a fake name especially when renting a car checking into a hotel. It's obvious he did this when he wrote his book. The name rex farrell is too perfect. Feral literally means wild. He wants you to think he's dangerous. So of all the mysteries around this book the biggest one is farrell's true identity. The publisher is always protected the author their real name can't be found in court documents and it's never come out in public which is fitting because in his book he promises that he'll always remain elusive that he'll never be caught if my advice and the proven methods in this book or followed certainly no one will ever know but i wanted to know who would write an instruction manual for murder and why so i initially set out to find this rex feral <music> but the truth behind this book was so much bigger followed it step by step staff to come in and murder my family some of this you can figure out without a book somewhere we couldn't some of it is bordering uninformed. We really want tell people those because it's kind of evil go after a book on care what it says shit cannot be protected by the first amendment walkout led. Let's everyone who's there whatever they did good bad what they're saying ugly. You know it's all part of the legacy. I got woke up in the hours of the morning. There'd been an explosion and they'd look at it a dead body. He was obviously good at concealing his identity. He literally just kind of fell off the face of the earth. I'm jasmine morris from from iheartradio and hit home media. This is hitman. I learned very quickly that no one wants to talk about. This book. Certainly not the publisher back in two thousand fifteen. I made a phone call to paladin press and i asked if i could speak with someone about hitman. There was a long pause from the person on the other end and the call lasted about ten seconds. I still haven't i've been able to get anyone from paladin on the phone or answer my emails in later episodes. We're going to explore the whole bizarre story of paladin but for now here's what you need to. I know the publisher began in colorado in nineteen seventy founded by to vietnam veterans named paid are lund and robert k brown in earlier photos. They're often posing with guns wearing military fatigues bandanas across their foreheads lond looks just like martin sheen from apocalypse khalip snow at one point the company website said they named their press paladin after the knights who served in charlemagne's court in eighth century france nights who were quote dispatched by the king to redress wrongs in the land brown would eventually start the mercenary magazine soldier of fortune while lund soldiered on on at paladin publishing books with titles like be your own undertaker how to dispose of a dead body and sneak it through smuggling made easier in the eighties. They got into the video business. Putting out instructional tapes like the lock picking guide be any a-to-z how to get in anywhere anytime getting into everything from padlocks bank vaults. You're going to see a steal a mercedes corvette ferrari. We're going to blow up a safe and he's burning in bars where they used everything can be done to get in someplace as the company website said quote paladin readers seek knowledge and information nation that some people think should remain secret or unpublished remember when they started it was long before the internet lund was a first amendment fundamentalist and any wanted to set this information free. There was just nothing that these guys one cell. That's attorney howard sequel. I can't hear howard if he it could be a little louder jasmine. You're absolutely the first person in the history of western civilization who has ever asked me to be louder. My wife would be astounded that somebody. Somebody asked me to be a ladder. Yeah god howard's ben an attorney for forty five years often taking on cases no one else will he's bombastic and unfiltered and not afraid to make opinions known which made him a worthy opponent of payday loans but we'll get into that later. I remember one description of how to build a baby bottle bomb in one one of his books. That was a bomb that was literally in a baby bottle and you would wheel the baby into a crowded marketplace. That's how you would kill innocent. People people didn't bother wanda and the slice. I mean here's lund himself back in the nineties being interviewed by mike wallace on sixty minutes terrorists would certainly be interested in what you publish they might they might be absolutely doesn't worry you. The fact that no it does not in later when asked about a book tied the oklahoma city bombing the domestic terrorist attack in nineteen ninety five that killed one hundred sixty eight people lund says this. I feel no responsibility disability. I have no ethical responsibility for the misuse of information. That's what this whole. Issue is about the misuse. The illegal use <music> of information lund died in two thousand seventeen and paladin shut down shortly afterward but i did speak with tom kelly the press lawyer who defended pal. Hell it in a landmark first amendment case. We're going to talk a whole lot about not. Surprisingly his take on paladins catalog was a little different than howard's paladin. Then has a niche market very eclectic mixture of non fiction they focus on libertarian values self help strategies and survival ism knowledge of weapons and explosives but they also include esoteric topics like quite a range of odd hobbies or the spiritual life of the lakota makoto sioux indians and that sort of thing one of the best selling series appellate and was the revenge series including screw unto others revenge tactics for all occasions. I've also seen paladin be described as the most dangerous publisher in america or something like that i i. I think that's preposterous. The books published are very unlikely to be the cause of criminal conduct undug murder mayhem what have you this conversation is so relevant right now. What do we do with this kind of speech and information every few days. It seems there's another mass shooting tied to some kind of radicalized viral online hate so we have to ask ken horrendous ideas 'cause horrendous acts of violence <music> and are the platforms that perpetuate those ideas responsible paladins publisher. Peter lund one said. I've never seen a man killed by a book look which brings us to the nineteen ninety-three murders of millie and trevor horn and janice saunders. We're like what a book is published. It tells you how the kill and really we could not believe that something like this was published. We had three three people who were dead. It'd been learned in his book was used. It made me angry. I was already angry when i understood that book and i became became even more angry. That's maryland farmer. She's telling me about her sister. Milly horn a forty three year old single mom with three kids and older daughter tiffany and twins tammy l. trevor. We all remember her. Her beautiful smile red lips. She loved red lipstick and her her infectious laughter. Just happy loving miami used to teaser because millie had blond hair and she had it green eyes and she was fair skinned. She had a presence about her that presence it comes through in stories and photographs graphs of milly. I've heard people use words like magnetic when describing her. I've also heard determined prideful fearless and regal. She's also been described as a really good. Mom hears her daughter tiffany. I can honestly say she invested her heart and soul in raising me. She also was that cool. Who'll mom you know and she definitely was more carefree like she took me to see flash. It's like i will never forget that like what mother takes their daughter to see a movie about strippers. I was like eight years old. She didn't know is that kind of thing. Milly he was fiercely protective of her children which became especially clear to everyone. When she gave birth to her twins. They were born three months premature tammy. I'll had no major for health complications but trevor's lungs are underdeveloped and he was in critical condition when he finally came home from the hospital he had a tracheostomy tube in his throat wrote and he was hooked up to an apnea monitor which would sound an alarm. If he stopped breathing he required twenty four hour nursing. Care trevor was profoundly lead disabled. That's howard siegel again. He was what many people would consider to be. The ultimate burden and these people treated him like he was the ultimate gift without miracle child. I would have a bad day at work and i would come in and walk in their room and who's there chuckling chuckling away at me. Tiffany was nine when the twins were born and she remembers that close bond million trevor shared. My mom was his everything i see a mother son love you could not imagine and it was almost like she was the love of his life and i think my mom had been looking for that connection for a long time nineteen eighty nine. I have ten years now. Why do you do in traffic. <hes> this is footage from home video maryland shared with me. That's her voice. You're hearing trevor now. Four four years old is lying on a smurfs blanket on the floor in his bedroom. Which was the heart of millie's house. They actually called it the family room his cousins and siblings are playing with him tickling him his mouth wide open with the biggest smile. He just radiates joy. You can see it on everyone's faces and then his mother millie it gets down on the floor with him talking about trabert never where you go trevor. He look luggage just like every other night around. Seven seven fifteen pm on march second nineteen. Ninety-three trevor get's a bath in his rock asleep in a rocking chair in his room. If it wasn't milli doing this it'd be one of the nurses. She recruited to help care for trevor. Janice saunders arrives around eight pm to work the night shift. Janice isn't supposed to be there that night but she agreed to fill in for another nurse who couldn't make it as has was routine. She flashes her headlights letting the dinner snow. She's in the driveway. The garage door opens for her. She pulls in and closes the garage door behind her. The nurse being relieved debriefs janice telling her trevor was doing very well clinically. She says he was enjoyable very happy that they'd had a very pleasant day. Hey millie horn. A flight. Attendant with american airlines is scheduled to fly around eight a._m. Tammy l. sleeping over at her aunt's janice settles in for the night just before midnight. A man parks is rental car in silver spring maryland he carries a hand drawn map is he walks to millions big brick house nearby. This is the axe on his map militias asleep upstairs. Trevor is asleep in his room. Jenna sits by his side cross-stitching and watching over the boy hit around two a._m. She logs his vitals continued to sleep. Quietly respiratory respiratory status stable lungs clear diaper dry her notes show that she started to write more and then no one knows exactly what happened next but here's what investigators piece together. The man approaches the back of the house carrying an a._r. Seven rifle loaded outed with twenty two caliber ammunition homemade silencer affixed to the barrel. He prize opened a basement window or possibly the sliding back door he walks through the first floor of the house toward trevor's bedroom fines janice saunders and shoots her through the eye he then approaches trevor's chris crib in smothers. The boy trevor stops breathing which sets off the piercing alarm of zappa monitor just as she had done many any time in the past. Here's the alarm heads downstairs to check on trevor when she comes face to face with the man of the foot of the stairs. He shoots her in the head head three times again through the eye before the man leaves he tosses furniture and takes credit cards. He takes his gone. John disassembled it and runs a rat tail file down the inside of his air seven he grabs hilly's keys and he takes off in her van tossing her credit cards in the gun parts into the brush along the highway. He abandons her van and he gets back into his rental car making one last stop to a payphone at a denny's nearby. No it's cryptic but investigators believe this was a hitman pulling his employer to report. He completed his job better man and we'll be right back after after a quick break <music>. Josh mates from dateline. Do you need your true crime. Fix on on the go. Dateline episodes are now available in podcasts. You can listen in the car or on the beach or wherever the summer takes you mysteries with a twist from dateline subscribe now so don't miss an episode what do tinder bennett jerry's and wells fargo have in common their all iconic. Nick businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where did they go right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like ben and jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like henry wells and william fargo. I'm dana barrett host of the new iheart podcast bibliography. I'm a former tech exec turned serial entrepreneur turned t._v. And radio host and over the course of my career i've interacted with interviewed and reported on thousands of businesses. I've seen bright beginnings. It fizzled out and rocky starts that turned into shining stars so join me and my producer new guy nick as we dive into the decisions nations that led to greatness and the regular people who were able to spin straw into gold bibliography. We'll have new episodes each week. Listen and subscribe on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts when i reached out to tiffany horn it'd been twenty five five years since her family was completely torn apart after several years or decades the families that deal with this type of horrendous trauma are constantly dealing with the fallout. It never goes away and it's a lonely existence sometimes to be part of that that because you become almost like a pariah and it's too painful for people don't want to deal with. I keep coming back to this moment in the home video. That maryland shared with me when tiffany turns the camera on her mind why go to church today. What did you do to listen to. What else would we do. Tiffany was just a teenager when she lost her mom. She's now outlived milly by a year. She's a forty four four year old single mother of two. She travels as much as she can. She loves music in god and she's tough by that. I mean she doesn't let anyone walk all over her. She'll she'll put you in your place. She i answered my call. In march of two thousand eighteen. We had many more phone calls before she agreed to meet with me and even then she was reluctant she still is she doesn't trust easily for good reason. Why are you sitting here with me today. I feel it's important to you. Tell some details and some parts of my story that i don't think i've ever really talked about before even just talking to you today. I can't have these conversations conversation really with anyone now. My kids have grown up and they're moving on to live their adult lives and i guess i'm left now with a wow. There's all these things i'm still having the kind of sort through about my dad and about my mom about my family <music> the morning of march third nineteen ninety-three tiffany a phone call to her dorm room and howard university in washington in d._c. I'll never forget they called me from the lobby and they said the police were there for me and my heart stopped they you just said. Can you come with us so that was like a forty five fifty minute tribe and i just remember back in the cruiser just crying and crying crying crying because i didn't know what would happen but i knew it must be something awful so i had almost a whole hour. Take go through all these different scenarios and i just remember thinking immediately. Maybe my mom's plane had crashed or some bang like i. I used to have those fears as a child. That was the first thing that came to my mind. I'm at that point inconsolable so i ran into the house and i collapsed into my on elaine's arms screaming and crying and that's when my grandmother was in the background wailing that he killed my daughter this primal wail of pain and then that's what my aunt. My aunt told me that my mother my brother and his nurse janice had been murdered. Tiffany's aunt millie sister vivian and elaine rice lived next door really she was the first one to discover the scene around seven fifteen am at first everyone pointed their fingers and millie's ex ex husband and father of her three children lawrence horn but he was three thousand miles away the time and as we learn he had an airtight alibi i i was responsible for the investigation and prosecution of what we call the triple murder for hire of trevor and mildred god and gina saunders robber. Dean is a career prosecutor based in montgomery county maryland. After i reached out he responded immediately. He was working in myanmar at the time. We met up just days after he returned to the states. Police didn't always asked me to come out to the crime scene but they thought this was the type of case where appropriate operate so i did it was a very somber and solemn site. There was the body of mildred mildred horn the bottom of the stairs. It was the body of a child wisc clearly life support type of apparatus oxygen tanks jason and an wires and so forth by his side was donna saunders one of his care nurses. Bob deans still calls this the biggest case he's ever had. It was one of the most exhaustive investigations in montgomery county history. Whoever had committed describe had managed to leave no fingerprints behind they didn't have much to go on so the police set off on foot canvassing the area for clues and they told us they they had found someone from detroit who signed into a hotel stayed like six hours laughed this man from detroit had checked into a nearby days in around midnight and had checked out by six a._m. The morning the murders there could have been plenty of innocent explanations but it still seemed weird. This is clearly an interstate matter are by this time we had asked the f. b. i. for assistance and investigators from the detroit f._b._i. Office decided to pay them visit. We should be all that house in a few you minutes <hes>. We're going to have the hand held with us. This is the actual tape from that day. They're outside the man's small brick house in east detroit very hey bob pizza. I i well you help me covered as quickly here from both were office. What they're looking at is <hes> the checks them hotels. I guess on days is in gaithersburg area rockville maryland right and they have information that you stayed there. I noticed going back a long time but march second. I can third of this year. Okay well first of all march okay first of all. They want to confirm if it wasn't fact you or somebody still your i._d. You lose does your i._d. Or something like that. Oh no i was there in that area hope can can you tell us why you were there in. I'm well. What can i ask you why you're asking this question eventually. He answers the f._b._i. Agents your business choice related business sure the man being questioned as james edward perry he was around forty five years old at the time he had a criminal record he'd been in prison for armed robbery but he'd served served his time and now worked for himself as a radio minister spiritual adviser travel across this country. I'm probably needed four or five thousand people that are high the council administer. We're into basically now trying to help people <hes> problems that they possibly have found the surveillance surveillance photo of him. He's wearing a trenchcoat in a prayer cap. He's got aviator sunglasses hanging around his neck. His very stylish perry called himself a case. He's buster. He helped with things like choosing lottery numbers in counseling people on their marriages. They'll people that bill clinton things have in their live from the witchcraft. They have pain when that body we free form and we are to give them a positive. Attitude is my belief. Is that whatever you think help to help because they have cancer. It can be absolved. I'm going to take you through all the twists and turns of this investigation but just know that eventually investigators executed executed a search warrant on perry's house and he had a kind of a storefront. I want to call it a church but i guess that's what we'll call it. We'll call it a church handle. Lou calling card and there was a soldier of fortune magazine and then there was a catalog paladin press sure enough. We learned that james perry had in fact ordered these two books how to be a hitman by rex farrell and this book on how to make disposable silencers silencers. We ordered of course these books as well. Do you remember the first time you saw that book. Yeah i do. I i looked at it and i couldn't believe it. I don't wanna say i was appalled. Uh for a minute. I thought it was a joke was kind of just a gag gift but that got the thinking that maybe you know some people take it. Seriously and perry was interested in it. Investigators found striking similarities between the tips found in hitman in the murders of millie trevor and janice the first i item on farrell's basic equipment checklist an air seven rifle which investigators believe was used in these murders shoot at close range quote aim for the head preferrably the eye sockets if you are a sharp shooter established a base at a motel in close proximity to the job site site before committing the murders farrell says pay cash which james perry did and to check in using fictitious name but this days inn had a rule if paying with cash he had to show your i._d. I guess the flaw is that he used his correct identification if he hadn't done that do you. You think you would've found him. I don't know if he used a phony name and had phony i d i don't know that we would have <hes> one of the attorneys i spoke with early on in the story said he didn't want hitman in his house. He compared it to a loaded pistol or a vial of poison and i know what he means hitman sitting next to me right now and it does have a certain cloud around it. I generally keep it in one place and i don't like it to touch other things in my office almost like it's some kind of contaminant this book her a lot of people we don't even really know how many and if this is a story about accountability about who's truly responsible when bad things happen about who carries the burden of remorse. They're still someone who's never spoken spoken about their role. In all of it one day buried buried in something like five hundred pages of court documents that a lawyer emailed me. I finally came across some correspondence between paladin and professional killer rex farell. The editorial director of paladin was writing with good news in closed. You will find two copies of the contract for hitman. A technical manual independent and contractors signed two copies with witness and return both to us. I was about to get my first glimpse of the person behind the book. Here's what he wrote back to paladin. My main concern offering. This type of material for publication is the possibility of litigation from people who might misuse the materials in my books so the real wrecks farrell might have had a conscience after all. It's easy to speculate late. What farrell's intentions were in writing hitman to some. It's not a question i mean he wrote a murderer manual to others. It raises entertainment or a joke a joke that james perry might have used to murder three people but after reading through this exchange at least one thing becomes clear about farrell again he writes by the way an answer to your question and that of mr lawn i get my materials from books television movies newspapers police officers karate instructor and a good friend who is an attorney. No i am not a hit man. I don't even own a gun but don't tell anybody next on hitman. My dad stole everything. I knew in my heart of hearts that he was involved he destroyed. My life like my family was gone. It's never been the same for me me. We all knew that did it so we know it was lawrence horn. I mean i knew who else who would have benefited from trevor die who would walk in the house house and kill an innocent child at the time that you married marie. Did you love her. No hitman is a production of iheartradio and hit home media. It's produced produced and reported by me. 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The Peterloo Massacre

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The Peterloo Massacre

"This episode of steffi missed in history classes brought to you by four weddings and a funeral on hulu four weddings and a funeral is a new original series produced by mindy caling focusing focusing on the lives of four college friends and they're different relationship and career crises relationships are forged and broken political scandals exposed london social life lampooned and love affairs ignited and doused and of course there are four weddings and a funeral catch the new rom com series for weddings and a funeral now streaming only on hulu <music> welcome to stuff you missed in history class a production of iheartradio's. How stuff works <music> hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm tracy wilson. I'm holly fry back in twenty seventeen which was not all that long ago really we did an episode on the cato street conspiracy that happened in eighteen twenty and it was a failed plot to assassinate the entire british cabinet and that episode we very briefly mentioned the peterloo massacre which had happened in one thousand nine hundred and the year before that was part of the context for this whole conspiracy and several folks back at that time let us know they were really excited to hear that peterloo mention gotten a few listener requests for the massacre over the years as well in this month is it's two hundred anniversary <unk> three so it seemed like a good time to finally move it up to the top of the list so the peterloo massacre took place during a peaceful protest for parliamentary reform in manchester lancashire england and there was a lot feeding into why people in britain and specifically in the region around manchester thought that this reform was needed the napoleonic wars and the war of eighteen twelve had both ended in eighteen fifteen and people had hoped that would mean a period of common prosperity but as has happened and in so many topics that we've covered following other wars it felt like the opposite was happening of the napoleonic wars had disrupted grain imports into britain from the european continent continent and this had worked out pretty well for britain's large grain farmers because the supply shortage they could sell their corn and other grains for much higher prices than normal but then as these wars were ending prices started following people. We're going to have access to that. Imported grain again prices dropped almost fifty percent between eighteen thirteen and eighteen fifteen so in eighteen fifteen parliament passed a corn law which prohibited the import of various grains until their prices for domestically grown crops rose up to a specific level and that exact price depended on the type of grain that was being sold this did contribute butte price increases but not as much as landowners had been hoping for still the corn law was obviously meant to protect the financial interests of wealthy planters landowners ordinary working people on the other hand had been struggling to pay for green and had welcomed the drop in price in response to the passage of the corn law protests and food riots broke out all over britain. Another issue was taxes. The british government had tried to pay for the wars with an assortment of taxes and duties an income income tax in particular had been passed in seventeen ninety nine and it was supposed to be a temporary wartime measure annual incomes over two hundred pounds taxed at ten percent an incomes incomes between sixty and two hundred pounds attacks on a sliding scale from one percent to ten percent a lot of working class. People had an income of less than sixty pounds a year so they weren't being taxed at all the british people thought that once the wars were over at least some of these taxes would be abolished especially the income tax but roughly two decades needs of warfare had left britain deeply in debt so in the spring of eighteen sixteen prime minister robert banks jenkinson second earl of liverpool am chancellor nicholas advanced toward announced a plan to keep the income tax in place so like we just said there was this whole sliding scale going on and that meant the way the income tax was structured wealthier people were paying the vast majority of the tax and when they found out the tax was not going away. They naturally were outraged. People protested tested and they signed petitions on march eighteenth eighteen sixteen the house of commons voted to abolish the income tax allegedly then all the tax records were gathered it up and burned in the old palace yard westminster but that wartime debt was still there and it was huge. The government still had to bring in money. Somehow an old the government raised taxes on a variety of consumer goods including tobacco tea sugar and beer while the income tax had mainly affected the affluent people britain's poorer people were most affected by these taxes on consumer goods so people who are already struggling to pay for necessities were now also also paying higher taxes on those necessities as well yes so they mostly went from not being taxed at all or or taxed only a little bit on their incomes to being taxed a whole lot more on things they needed to buy and that was really just the beginning nine hundred sixteen was the year without a summer which we've talked about on a previous episode of the show crops failed all over europe because of unusually wet cold weather and that may things even harder for people who were already being affected by the corn laws and the tax increases britain's textile industries were shifting and becoming more mechanized with traditional handlooms being replaced by machines. People were losing their jobs and wages is were filing for people who still have jobs. We talk about this more in our previous episode on the luddite rising which took place in the earlier eighteen so just a little bit before all this was happening. All of this was disproportionately affecting the people who are least able to afford it. Many working class families were affected by all of this at once with shortages of food they needed higher prices on what they could get additional taxes and reduced wages all at the same time and overwhelmingly the same people also did not have the right to vote in most of britain only men who paid certain taxes or who owned property had the right to vote and this this meant less than five percent of people in england and wales had the right to vote in the rest of britain. The percentage was even smaller. Even the people who could vote couldn't necessarily necessarily do so freely ballots weren't necessarily kept secret. Some boroughs were known as pocket boroughs because one person or family dictated how people people should vote one example was borough bridge us electorate was in the pocket of the duke of newcastle on top of that parts of britain weren't really represented in parliament more than half of m._p.'s were elected from southern england while other parts of britain weren't represented by a member of parliament at all as the population of britain had shifted it was common for small boroughs which were controlled by the gentry to have representation in parliament while growing cities did not this was true for manchester which had had no m._p. Even though its population had grown to more than one hundred thousand people by eighteen fifteen meanwhile other areas known as rotten boroughs sent to m._p.'s to parliament even though they only had a handful of voters living their old sarum for example had seven voters and to m._p.'s working people and for people in britain some of whom were both working in poor understandably felt like they were not being represented in the government and that the government didn't understand stand or care about their interests or wellbeing and in places like manchester this was heightened by just not having any representation in parliament at all a movement for parliamentary entry reform had started to grow in britain in the late eighteenth century in response to both the american and french revolutions amt thomas pains the rights of man which had it also influenced the french revolution reform groups founded in the late seventeen hundreds and early eighteen hundreds focused on changing how m._p.'s were elected and on the idea yeah of universal manhood suffrage meaning that all men are all working men would get the right to vote there are also female reform societies that were a big part of this movement men and there were some organizations that included women's suffrage among their goals female reform societies and women suffer just were really heavily criticized and their members were satirized in print with critics implying that there was something questionable about their virtue. We are going to get into this movement developed but first. We're gonna pause for a little sponsor answer break. This episode of steffi missed in history class is brought to you by the hulu show four weddings and a funeral for weddings and a funeral is a new hulu original title series produced by mini kei. Ling relationships are forged in broken. Political scandals are exposed london. Social life is lampooned. Love affairs ignited and doused and of course there are four weddings and a funeral catch all the drama in four weddings and a funeral a new rom com series produced by mindy kaeling now streaming only on hulu. The movement for parliamentary reform in britain was really focused on the idea of showing the government that massive numbers of people supported these proposed reforms this included petitioning holding mass meetings. The first of these mass meetings was held in november of eighteen sixteen in spa fields and london drew a crowd of about ten thousand people along with a large number of spectators. Another more radical meeting followed at the same place on december second eighteen sixteen. There's more detail about about that one in our cato street conspiracy episode but in brief some of the leaders of that meeting used it to try to start revolution. One person was killed and it came to be known as the spa fields riots. The british government began to find this movement threatening some of it was just about the potential loss of political power. If more people all had the right to vote or a seats in parliament were reapportion to try to more consistently represent all of britain but this wasn't just about power there had been violent in incidents beyond just the spa fields riots. Some of the movement's leaders were radical and used violent rhetoric in their speeches. The french revolution and the reign of terror were also still in the recent past and it happened just on the other side of the channel so there were fears that something similar could happen in britain so the government started taking steps to to try to discourage this reform movement and the mass meetings that were associated with it parliament renewed wartime laws that ban seditious speech and in march of eighteen team seventeen. They suspended the habeas corpus act. I'm putting in this definition of habeas corpus here because i feel like it's a term people are familiar with but might not actually understand and what it means. It's a latin term that has a slightly different legal nuance depending on the jurisdiction but it roughly translates to you may have the body meaning that if you satisfy satisfy the right legal procedures authorities have to produce a person that's being detained or incarcerated usually to bring them to a court appearance and that court appearance appearances often meant to determine whether the person is being held justly or unjustly so the concept of habeas corpus is meant to protect people from being unlawfully the imprisoned this suspension of the habeas corpus act meant that people lost protection and could be arrested and held indefinitely without being charged with anything. This didn't stop the protests. Though in march of eighteen seventeen a group called the manchester radicals gathered in saint peter's field planning to march to london they wanted to protest the suspension of habeas corpus and draw attention to the issues facing textile workers in lancashire these marchers carried blankets and reform petitions shins with them so this demonstration was nicknamed the march of the blanket tears when authorities tried to disperse these marchers hundreds of people were arrested. Nearly thirty thirty were imprisoned for random periods of time. Most of them never being charged with anything. Brought to trial of volunteer force called the manchester and salford yeomanry was also formed in response to the march of the blanket tears and other unrest that happened the same year parliament repealed the habeas corpus suspension act in january three of eighteen eighteen but the government was still focused on trying to break up the reform movement by march of eighteen eighteen home secretary lord sidmouth had said quote the country will not be tranquilized until blood shall have been shed either by the law or the sword as a summer approached in eighteen eighteen reformers started planning a mass meeting in manchester. One of the speakers was to be henry hunt who had been a speaker at those previous meetings at spa fields that we mentioned a few moments ago he you become one of the most visible people within this movement. He was a flamboyant speaker who usually were very recognizable white hat. He was able to draw and motivate large. Urge crowds a lot of articles about him today or extremely critical but they also draw a lot of sources for people who hated him so it's not totally clear how much of that is accurate accurate. He was widely satirized and cartoons and articles and the anti reform side gave him the nickname orator which was meant to be disparaging but today sedate people pretty much always just call him order hunt. The idea was that on august sixteenth eighteen nineteen people would march from towns all around manchester gathering together at saint peter's fields some were coming from as far as thirty miles forty eight kilometers away and some of these groups were going to be very large numbering in hundreds or thousands of people organizers wanted to make sure they arrived in an orderly organized way so many practice they're marching in the moore's around their towns the villages in the weeks leading up to august sixteenth a lot of people also made banners to carry on the day which were decorated with the name of the society that was carrying the manner or a slogan like unite and be free or liberty and fraternity or taxation without representation as unjust and tyrannical so a lot of people were carrying banners while they were practising as well since they were going to have to carry them all that way on the sixteenth. This was also at the same time of year that many of these communities carried out a tradition of rush bearing this came from the practice of annually replacing the layer of russia's that covered the church's stone floor and had gradually become more of a parade in which participants disappoints carried russia's to the church wearing their sunday best carrying banners and pulling elaborately decorated rush carts so people had logical reasons cents for practicing their marching before this event and it was all going on at a time when it was pretty normal in these communities where people parade from one place to another but authorities authorities worried that there was some kind of military purpose behind the drilling and that organizers were really conspiring to pull off something more violent than a march to a meeting by august twelfth local magistrates were writing to each other with their concerns that all of this might really be a pretext to some kind of armed revolution as people people living in and around manchester prepared to march to the meeting and spend the day listening to speeches and rallying for reform the magistrates prepared to make some disperse breath chief magistrate william haughton instructed the manchester and salford yeomanry and the neighbouring cheshire yeomanry to remain at the ready although many of them reportedly did so by spending the morning manchester's taverns the magistrates recreated three hundred people for the manchester special constabulary an arm them with truncheons and british army regulars from the eighty eighth regiment of foot and the fifteenth king's hustlers were called in as well the magistrates had rocks and stones owns removed from the ground so they could not be used as weapons and plan to arrest henry hunt as soon as he began speaking about how this all played out on the day after one more quick sponsor break on august nine that if you can't stand the heat get out of hell's kitchen the kitchen is a movie that flips the mom genre on on its head in a gritty fast paced drama if eaters melissa mccarthy tiffany haddish and elizabeth moss like you've never seen them before. 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They don't want you to know that was inspired by this hardened and uncompromising thriller that episode takes a deeper look into the life of new york's first mob mob boss and the queen of thieves marm mandelbaum and i got two guests on it so it was a very fun time for me because i love those guys. Don't miss the kitchen. It's rated r. under seventeen. I'm not admitted without apparent. It's directed by andrea bear laugh and only in theaters august ninth but route that arrived at saint peter's field in manchester on august sixteenth eighteen nineteen gene was festive and excited. The sixteenth was a monday so people who worked in the regions textile factories would have been at work for the day but while power loom factories we're growing and lancashire the majority of textile workers in that area were still working at home on handlooms may typically worked on saturdays and took monday off many communities these female reformer societies were marching together all dressed in white on the sixteenth. Although there were also lots of women there who weren't specifically associated with the society children were in attendance with their families and sources vary on the estimates of how many total people were their most say at least sixty thousand some go as high as one hundred and fifty thousand or more th- really kind of all over the place it was illegal gathering although there may have been some people who brought a stick or some of their weapon they had been told to bring quote no other weapon but that of a self approving conscience bishop edward stanley later said of the gathering quote i saw on no symptoms of riots or disturbances before the meeting. The impression on my mind was that the people were sullenly peaceful. I don't know why he says selling lee peaceful when many the of the other accounts say it was more festive kind of like a fun excited party. The manchester courier described it this way quote at half past eleven. My attention engine was i particularly attracted by a crowd of people advancing to the ground with flags and music. They came in a sort of marching order and were covered with dust. Having as i learnt learnt come from some town at a distance a number of women boys and even children were in the procession which had from this circumstance more the appearance of a large village party not going to a merrymaking than that of a body of people advancing to overthrow the government of their country. John benjamin smith later became a liberal politician and part of the anti-corrution anti-corrution law league but at the time he was twenty five and he had not planned to go to the meeting his aunt asked him to accompany her to a friend's house nearby so that she could watch watch and he wrote of it quote. There were crowds of people in all directions full of good humor laughing and shouting and making fun. It seemed to be a gala day with the country entry people who were mostly dressed in their best and brought with them their wives and when i saw boys and girls taking their father's hand in the procession i observed to my aunt these guarantees of their peaceful intentions we need have no fears magistrates met at a home that was adjacent to the meeting about eleven in the morning and sources differ about what happened there when hunt started speaking and authorities moved into arrest him officials maintained that chief magistrate william halton read the riot act before ordering the yeomanry to make the crowd disperse so here in the u._s. Most people know the phrase read the riot act as a figure of speech basically sigli meaning giving someone a very stern lecture for some sort of misbehavior but the riot act is a real act first passed by parliament in seventeen fourteen after a series of riots had swept through britain and its full title was an act for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies and for the more speedy ineffectual punishing gnashing of the rioters the act made it illegal for twelve or more people to quote unlawfully assemble and disturb the public peace local authorities had the all right to approach such a group and order them to disperse and failure to do so was a felony the act remained on the books until the mid to late twentieth century so under the terms of the riot act someone who was authorized to do so had to approach the unlawful assembly as closely as they safely could call for silence or otherwise quote cause to be commanded silence and then a loud voice they had to read this statement and its entirety quote our sovereign lord the king hang charges and commanded all persons being assembled immediately to disperse themselves and peaceably to depart to their habitations or to their lawful business upon conned pains contained in the act made in the first year of king george for preventing. Tom and riotous assemblies god save the king was that statement was read. The crowd had an hour to disperse accounts differ in whether authorities in manchester that day read the riot act with reports that it was read mostly coming from magistrates agitates and members of the military but is it was read. It probably was not heard by the vast majority of the people there. They definitely were not given a one hour window to to disperse the yeomanry came down on the crowd within minutes of hunts beginning to speak the british army later blamed the yeomanry for what happened next the crowd was very tightly packed in the saint peter's fields and the yeomanry quickly broke form they charged in leaving the members of the yeomanry in very small groups surrounded by marchers who were packed in too tightly to disperse the yeomanry didn't have much training and a lot of them were reportedly intoxicated and when they found themselves trapped and kind of cut off from each other by this crowd they started knocking people away with the flats of their sabers in some accounts things escalated when demonstrators started throwing rocks although oh as some eyewitnesses said they did not see any evidence of rock-throwing or any other retaliation from the crowd the yeomanry sabres were also freshly sharpened something something that many sources conclude is evidence that they had intended to use them or to at least do as much harm as they could if they accidentally or intentionally struck someone with the edge edge rather than the flat this has been described as one of the most documented events of the nineteenth century. There's something like three hundred fifty different eyewitness a witness accounts and a lot of them contradict each other in details like this. The army regulars arrived at the field at about two pm. The eighty eighth fired down down streets to encourage people to disperse in the fifteenth fussers charged into the crowd but lieutenant colonel guy l'estrange realized that the crowd had formed kind of a bottleneck neck and it was partly blocked in by the infantry they couldn't disperse. They had nowhere to go so he pulled his force back. Here's how john benjamin smith described the scene. At that point quote. It was a hot dusty day clouds of dust arose which obscured the view when it had subsided a startling scene was presented numbers numbers of men. Women and children were lying on the ground who had been knocked down and run over by the soldiers. I noticed one woman lying face downwards apparently lifeless bliss a man went up to her and lifted one of her legs. It fell as if she were lifeless. Another man lifted both her legs and let them fall. I saw her sometime after carried off by the legs and arms as if she were dead and eleven people were killed there on the day five of them from sabre wounds and the arrest from being trampled or crushed by people or horses the day's first fatality is usually cited as william fields. He was a baby knocked out of the arms of his has twenty-three-year-old mother and then trampled at least seven. More people died of their injuries later. Two constables were killed likely by soldiers and probably by accident it. This took about twenty minutes between when the yeomanry charged and when the field was cleared it seems as though the yeomanry and soldiers focused on people with banners and on women of the six hundred fifty four recorded injuries at least one hundred sixty eight were women four of those women died of their injuries roughly flee half of those reported injuries came from sabres or other weapons as opposed to being crushed or trampled based on the record numbers about one eighth of the marchers were women but women made up about one third of the injuries there were also probably a lot more injuries that went unreported people were really afraid to seek medical care out out of fear that they would be arrested or face kind of other consequences for having been at the meeting twenty five year old james lees was a veteran of the battle of waterloo died of injuries injuries after being turned away from the manchester infirmary he was reportedly turned away because he refused to agree not to participate in such meetings in the future. He was quoted as saying quote at waterloo. There was mansa man but here it was downright. Murder henry hunt was arrested and tried for seditious assembly and was sentenced to thirty months in prison three other speakers and organizers were sentenced to twelve months each although people tried to raise funds to help the injured and and the families of the killed most of this money wound up going to hunts legal defense local journalists james rowe coined the term peterloo massacre combining saint thank peter's fields where it happened with the battle of waterloo which the fifteenth hazards had fought at four years before rose newspaper the manchester observer was shut down in the wake of his reporting on the incident and he was charged and convicted with seditious libel afterwards john edward taylor started the manchester guardian and that's just the guardian today the massacre temporarily united reformers across the political spectrum with the more radical and more moderate wings of the movement coming together in outrage over what had happened but this didn't help propel the movement forward the magistrates and other officials cited with the yeomanry and the regulars including cluding holding a meeting in secret to thank the human re for their work. There was no investigation into the behavior of the yeomanry the special constables or the military a units involved in response to the massacre parliament also passed legislation known as the six acts in november eighteen nineteen. These were the training prevention an act. The seizure of arms act the seditious meetings prevention act the misdemeanors act the blasphemous seditious libels act and the newspaper in stamp duties <music> act together these acts restricted the freedoms of assembly speech and the press they specifically outlawed the kind of drilling people had been doing in the moore's leading up to the meeting. Meanwhile while nearly five thousand people signed a petition denouncing the meeting that had been held to thank the yeomanry and condemning the violence in that read in part quote. We are fully satisfied satisfied by personal observation on undoubted information that the meeting was perfectly peaceable that no seditious or intemperate harangues were made there that the riot act if read it all was read privately or without the knowledge of a great body of the meeting and we feel it our bounden duty to protest against and to express our utter disapprove obation of the unexpected and unnecessary violence by which the assembly was dispersed. Many of the special constables and members of the yeomanry were shopkeepers and people apple boycotted those shops afterward the massacre and the government and other official response to it were widely criticized and satirized in prints an anonymous writer heider created a pamphlet based on the children's rhyme who killed cock robin with the robin being the people who were hurt and killed a somewhat similar political pamphlet was called old political house that jack bill was written by william hone illustrated with political cartoons like the children's rhyme. Every line builds on the one before so. This is the house that jack built. This is the wealth that lay in the house that jack built these are the vermin the plunder the wealth that lay in the house that jack built this is the thing that in spite of new acts and attempts cbs to restrain it by soldiers and tax will poison the vermin that plunder the wealth that lay in the house that jack built the thing that's going to poison these vermin is the printing press and the vermin vermin or an assortment of bishop's court officials army tax collectors and the like percy bysshe shelley also wrote a lengthy poem called the mask of anarchy although it was not published until after his death and he sent that poem to leigh hunt who withheld its publication for fear of political or legal consequences and there were also lots of household told goods like cups and tea towels that were made to commemorate the massacre but in spite of all this criticism and publicity it was a really long time before any of the reforms that this movement movement had been looking for came into being the representation of the people act of eighteen thirty two was the first act to include some of these reforms and it was passed thirteen years later it gave more men the right to vote and redistributed some seats in parliament which reduced the number of rotten boroughs and gave some places some representation that they had not previously previously had although it was nicknamed the great reform act these changes were far more moderate than what reformers had been working toward additional reform act followed in eighteen sixty seven and eighteen eighty four which continued to refine who could vote and how communities were represented in parliament but it wasn't until nineteen eighteen almost a century after the peterloo massacre that the representation of the people act granted universal suffrage men all men over the age of twenty one could vote route as could women over the age of thirty who owned property that by that point there had been entire other movements that had come and gone in britain including the charter. Hardest movement was in that whole window the whole lot <hes>. Do you have listener mail. That's maybe not quite so sad. I mean i do in a way and it kind kind of connects to this because like a lot of the investigation into what happened at the time was really focused on these marchers and what they were up to and whether they were up to something nefarious not on the people who carried out the actual killing this e mail is from yuan. I hope i am saying your name correctly and you on rights holly and tracy. What a timely piece just last week. The mercury news printed a report on u._s. Representative mark to sell nays amendment to exonerate report chicago fifty that passed the house while i barely skim newspaper headlines these days. I devoured the story because i thought i had heard about the the incident from your show. That must be the halifax explosion. Your latest show added so much depth to my understanding about the port chicago fifty while listening. I can't help but wondering where's here's the navy officers who looked down on the lowest intellectual strata given the court finding that the colored enlisted personnel are neither temperamentally nor intellectually intellectually capable of handling high explosives sees officers who ordered such personnel back to handling high explosives must be there lacked the intellect to understand that conclusion lack the intellect to integrate that conclusion to their decisions. Should they pass the previous test or should they have possessed the intellect and you both must have committed treason by attempting to further sabotage retired navy port during the act of war. This is a good point so thank you for writing two things number one. A couple of people have gotten in touch with us about this on july twelfth. The national defense authorization act was passed by the house. There was a concurrent resolution the day before and there is an amendment. That's part of the authorization that would require the secretary of the navy to either there exonerate the port chicago fifty or to look into exonerating the port chicago fifty. I could not find the text the actual amendments on the congress website. There are a lot of amendments to this particular bill and i could not find among them so that currently has has passed the house. There is not a similar bill that has passed the senate. It's not signed into law so nothing is a sure thing yet but this representative senator who i think represents the part of california that port chicago is in has been trying to get the port chicago fifty exonerated. It's not the first time that there's been an attempt to get them exonerated but is ongoing. We recorded that episode on july night so we recorded the episode before any of those things had happened in regards in regards to the question of and yet. That's not a question that anybody was exploring at all in any of the hearings that happened at the time there were just a lot of examinations of the men who were loading munitions and portugal when really no examination of the decisions that led them to be doing that so that was one of the very frustrating things and i was very astute way of laying out the questions involved so thank you want for this email and for the link to the article about this defense bill amendment that may lead lead to an exoneration if all continues on <hes> if you'd like to write with about this or any other podcast history podcast at how stuff works dot com and then we're all over social social media. I'd miss them history. 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Savor Classics: Butterbeer

FoodStuff

34:58 min | 1 year ago

Savor Classics: Butterbeer

"Today's episode is brought to you by Weston. Westin hotels and resorts have a single goal to help you travel. Well and Western has curated wellness programs to help you eat move and sleep well. Wherever you you travel their new menu features fresh ingredients and flexible options like half portion sizes all western locations now have an on demand fitness gear lending program and their heavenly bed helps you conquer the day by giving you a restful night because when you eat move and sleep well you rise welcome to Westin and welcome to wellness explore it western dot com a member of Marriott bomb boy hello and welcome to savor a a production of iheartradio and stuff media? I'm Lauren Vogel bomb any reese. My illustrious co host is not in the studio today. She had to step away for just a moment. She's doing just just fine. She will be back next week and in the meanwhile I have for you guys in other saver classic episode because as I'm recording this today it is July alight thirty first which is Harry Potter birthday and <hes> Yeah so we did an episode on butter beer way back in two thousand seventeen. I feel like it was decades and decades cates ago but <hes> yeah we butter beer episode because there is a historical beverage that was buttered fear so we get to go into that and then and also go into some of the ways in which foods and drinks from the Harry Potter Universe have made the transfer into reality delicious delicious reality and I will say that the Harry Potter Universe is a particularly interesting fictional world to to look at the food and drink in because they talk about it a lot <hes> potter more indexed all of the mentions of food in the original series and found that <hes> goblet of fire is the food easiest book with Three Hundred Sixty mentions ends of food but there are a total of one thousand six hundred and fifty one mentions throughout the series with an average of two hundred and thirty six per book <hes> So yes. I'm going to let past anion lauren take it away and then at the end. I'm going to have a couple of updates for you so yes <music> hello and welcome to foodstuff. I'm Lauren Vauban and I am an aries and today today we're testing out a new segment yeah ruth calling it. Fictional foods foods are in this case fictional drinks because we're going to be talking about butter beer and I guess in this case. It's a semi fictional drink. I know that's one of the most interesting things things about this one. It's helped from the page your mouth. It's made the transition from reality. It's like who framed Roger Rabbit but at Beverage Yeah or I I said Pinocchio. Oh real drink now. Yes for those of you who don't know oh I know aw butter beer is a drink from the Harry Potter series there actually isn't much description as the taste in the books themselves but when asked about the taste author J K Rolling told Bona Petit magazine and two thousand and two I made it up. I imagine it to taste a little bit like less sickly butterscotch watch it first appeared in the third book in the series Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban after he tries it for the first time at the three broomsticks mm sticks he describes it as the most delicious thing he'd ever tasted oh and seemed to heat every bit of him from the inside. <hes> that's a very <hes>. That's a lot to live up to right yeah. Oh no wonder people are so obsessed with it I know and it POPs up in every sleep book after that it can be served in hot hot in mugs or cold and bottles. They cost to sickles. Which of course we all know to be about sixty pence? Mr Weasley doesn't know about that I think he'd have I think it had trouble with the conversion rates. That's true it's a little bit less than than an American dollar by the way yes and they were available for purchase at pubs like the three broomsticks or the Hawk said the book implies. You can't get them at hogwarts. Try find very interesting apart from from special occasions like the Yule Ball Dean shameless discuss buying some on the black market post exams and of course you could probably always count on the weasley twins took of course yes and one of the interesting things about butter beer and maybe why wasn't available at at hogwarts. Was this kind of debate around whether or not there's alcohol in it. Yeah it's got the name beer yeah in the name but no one ever says anything about whether it's alcoholic no and the consensus seems to be that it's maybe mildly alcoholic it <hes> like enough to get a house Elf like winky drunk if she <hes> for those of you who don't know she got very drunk a lot in the goblet of fire fire on butter beer or like a lightweight like her Miami that supposedly the joke that she had a butter beer and got and got tipsy yeah in the six pixelbook half blood Prince Harry wonders what Ron and her money might do quote under the influence of Butter Beer Oh yeah and in the six movie Emma Watson Watson the actress who played her mind. He certainly acted tipsy after having a better beer. I remember that being a bigger deal than I thought it should have been but anyway I've always thought it was more of a happy feeling that gave you owe as opposed to being like alcohol like your own like drunk just like magical like a Mike. It's just making you happy if he's sort of like Felix leashes so she'll okay which is the potion and that the chemistry of a house Elf reacted differently to it. Perhaps I said too much which I'm really big Harry Potter Fan people haven't surmised that already. I think you are wearing hustle puff colors right now but I've been griffin door uh-huh oh. I'm awful path. Oh I'd love puff though creates a great one to be. I'm not ashamed of it. Half a puff pride y'all badge of honor. It's a pun but I won't Oh oh I oh goodness so that's kind of a brief outline of it's it's life it's fictional life fiction alive <hes> but it but it's actually it could be argued. I'm not sure whether Rowling had this idea or not but <hes> but there is a history of buttered beer concoctions in England and will start talking about that right after a quick break for word from our sponsor in today's episode is brought to you by American flat bread frozen pizza pizza is more than something you eat learn and <hes> and I both know that to be true. It's always an experience which is why American flat bread is so serious about what goes on and in their pizza take these sliced tomato Oh and five cheese for example they slice fresh ripe plum tomatoes and don't just use Mozzarella cheese American flat bread uses Vermont Maple Smoked Cheddar sage US Jago and Parmesan cheeses cheeses to it's the type of pizza I would make it home but frozen and ready for me to enjoy whenever I want then. There's the tomato sauce and three cheese please. We have this in the office lunch and people swarmed into the kitchen he did American flat. Bread uses only organic ingredients in there tomato sauce. If that's something that concerns you like like onions carrots celery red wine grape and olive oil producer Andrew is not on Mike Right now but he wanted everyone to know that his favorite was the uncured pepperoni Bruni and Bacon Pizza and that if he could he would share slice with all of you while American flat bread offers an unconditional guarantee on the box we did not need to use it. We loved it and everyone in the office did to it was unanimous American flat bread inspired by ingredients drawn-together deliciously to find American flatbed frozen pizza at a retailer near when you go to American flat bread products dot com and we're back. Thank you sponsor. Just thank you so so yes there is something of historical basis for butter beer or at least for a lightly alcoholic beer based beverage that is creamy. Dan Spiced and we start this conversation with a medieval English drink called caudal a U.. D. L. E.. This was a drink served warm made A beer that was gently boiled a thickened with egg or cream or oatmeal sweetened with honey or sugar and seasoned with stuff like like nutmeg cloves anise saffron daffron all spice Cinnamon Mace and or ginger out and it goes all the way back to the twelve or thirteen hundreds in was popular up through the sixteen hundreds as a kind of get better Brougham it was served to folks who are bedridden. Sick in childbirth are kind of old. One of the recipes is like give this to your old dude. Just your old dude got hidden in the closet Yep okay. I think it was like an old man but I think implication yes anyway. <hes> it was also recommended as a sleepytime drink and caudal is where we get the term coddle as into treat gently C o d d. l. e. etymologists. I just think that by the sixteen hundreds caudal that the drink had taken on an expanded meaning of gently boiling any kind of stuff or the word C. A. U.. D. The Elliott taken on this expanded meaning <hes> and in Eighteen Fifteen Jane austen used it in the in the modern sense to coddle to treat <hes> gently gently in the book Emma which was the first time that it appeared as such imprint. Oh Yeah you never know where it episode. We'll take you I tell you I know I've yeah yeah. Jane Austen is not what I thought I would be talking about here. There was even specific drink wear for your coddle called Coddle Cups Kataoka Huddle Cups <hes> these looked like teacups apps but usually had two handles you know the better for the infirm to grip it with and often came with Lids classy folks had these highly decorated like painted gilded versions in their tea sets of course they did the coddle was politicized by Shakespeare in Henry. The sixth part two in which the rebel Jack Cade Threatens To hang the Lord high treasurer blurred had treasure is just said that he's sick and tired of considering the poor and cade says you shall have a hemp and caudal then and the help of Hatchet zing yeah. Oh Shakespeare Love Ya anyway by the late fifteen hundreds cuddle with sometimes ads called buttered beer due to its butter content. There's a recipe in the good housewife's handmade for the kitchen from fifteen ninety four which was is written by a dude by the way <hes> and the recipe the recipe goes like this and I'm not going to do the voice but but imagine that I'm doing this in a very silly old English voice voice I think we can do that yeah yeah okay all right take three pints of beer put five yolks of eggs to it strain them together and set it in a pewter pot to the fire and put it to half a pound of sugar one penny worth of nutmeg beaten one penny worth of cloves beaten and a half a penny worth of ginger beaten and when it is all in take another pure pot and brew them together and set it to the fire again and when it is ready to boil take it from the fire and put a dish of sweet butter into it and brew them together out of one pot into the other so slight tangent half penny so is that like a UH. That's how much you'd spend on it. I'm guessing that's the measurement of Oh which seems really inconvenient for translating recipes for later yeah uh but I guess you can kind of guess how much that would be right like like seems like enough nutmeg clump the end result of this beer and egg and and spicy stuff and especially the sloshing back and forth between different parts the end result is is a foamy and warm and probably tasted like pie spice basically <hes> it's sort of the boozy Pumpkin latte aversion of bulletproof coffee. Oh if you can imagine that I think I can share and and this is essentially the recipe that's persisted through the ages it surged popularity again in Victorian times and is generally related to the posit which is a warm milk and beer and or wine beverage. <hes> although posits were more for for general consumption or winter holiday consumption. I think that this cuddle was was really really was seen as a curative so that that is possibly where J._k.. Rolling got the idea or inspiration for better beer perhaps perhaps but either way it did make the leap into our world the real world and we'll talk more about that after quick break from our sponsor they get a lot of emails about coal case all the time and usually when I look at a story I can tell them. The first five minutes probably happened but this one is really strain. I'm Katherine Townsend host of the true crime podcast Helen going in hours asking people what's wrong. What's room and we're getting the sheriff's Office James? Dan No explanation. Janey Ward was sixteen years old when she died under mysterious circumstances stances she was at a party at a cabin in the woods in the small town of Marshall Arkansas stores fell all daughter would be today. I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie Ward on September number nine nine thousand nine hundred nine listen to hell and gone. That's H.. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever ever you get your podcast and we're back. Thank you sponsor so so as we said at the top. This is one thing that makes better beer as fictional food very interesting. It's both fictional and real now. Don't think about it too hard. Yeah I obviously you can buy butter beer. At the wisden world of Harry Potter Studios They have locations in Orlando in Los Angeles and Tokyo and at the Harry Potter Studio Tour just outside of London I will say I've been to all of those but Tokyo and I'm GonNa fix I bet this year. Oh my goodness I haven't been to any of them so far behind yeah so universal shifts including universal's corporate executive Executive Chef Stephen Jason embarked on the monumental task of bringing this quote most delicious drink life. I mean I'd it'd be very intimidated right in the summer of two thousand eight they visited J._K.. Rolling and places that inspired Harry Potter they asked her questions about what it tasted tasted like to me that sounds awesome trip yeah from this. They determined that the drink should taste smooth with the main flavors being similar to that out of shortbread and butterscotch okay yeah they wanted it to resemble beer but not be alcoholic for perhaps obvious reasons yeah mostly kids kids children are sometimes fan of the Harry Potter series in addition to children at heart like us so that's very kind thank you we paul. Thank you Laurin. It also had to not contain any allergens in or dairy so that those who had any allergies or or lactose intolerant could enjoy it basically they wanted it to be available to everyone and this means that there's no butter or beer in butter beer <hes> yeah they also wanted it to have less calories than a twelve ounce can of soda and J._K.. rollings insisted it'd be made with real sugar hell because she thought that high fructose Corn Syrup rightfully you're not was going to become the next ingredient. People Bill went out of their way to avoid very savvy pretty pretty much and just F._y._i.. A fourteen ounce serving of butter beer has two hundred calories and twenty nine nine grams of sugar which which is a little bit lower. I would have guessed way more than a can of coke yeah You head of universal creative Mark Woodbury getting through the Department of Homeland Security was a bit of a challenge he I can see that the crew rented a kitchen Chin space from an Edinburgh Hotel. They whipped up the five recipes including the executive approved one and they had their fingers crossed that Jikei rolling would go for for it but then they letter sample them. I would have been so terrified. She tried each one and when she arrived to the one they wanted her to pick. She smiled and said yes chef. That's it oh sweet. Relief had to sweet relief now. The recipe is the culinary version of classified. They make it on site and only those that need to know how to make it know how to make you wow chef. Jason has said universal quote implanted special security procedures in order to protect the recipe implanted in planted kind of like like him or know who knows this goes of course folks tried to smuggle a beer out of the park to figure out what's in it but to their surprise the drink loses <hes> has this really smooth consistency as <hes> two parts the foam topping and the body and when people take it out of the park they'd find that it blend together in thirty minutes and it would become become a much less palatable drink <hes> oh when they pour it even there's a two steps deporting it you pour the liquid body and then there's another like spout for the foam topping and okay not allowed to order it without the foam because they claim it's part of the experience in trademarked. Oh yeah and this has led to at least one petition created by someone worried about cross contamination and when it comes to the topping because they guarantee. There's no lactose or any kind of allergy in there but people are worried that maybe there's kind of like when I say it's made in a factory that manufactures peanut. Oh yeah but to the state they have not released Lisa any hint of the recipe. Aura lifted yeah you have to get the topping and <hes> topping is generally everyone's favorite apart. Throw that out there <hes> yes <hes> you can order the drink hot cold frozen in ice cream form fudge form and potted cream form. I'm partial to the frozen but the ice cream is amazing. It's hugely popular. It's equally as popular as they are in the book she might say Yeah. When the the data the data on this really blew my mind. It's insane yeah when the park first. I opened in June two thousand ten chef. Jason said we found out very very quickly. When we opened that butter beer was definitely an overnight? I told him run less than a year later. In January two thousand eleven islands of adventure where the Harry Potter theme park was located celebrated selling its millionth butter beer less than a year and by December twenty twelve. That number was five million. Oh my goodness yeah they they by the way when they hit these benchmarks they throw these really big parties and they give away free butter beer or at least. I think it's free anyway. There's butter beer a lot of butter beer-drinking to behalf and I couldn't find any specific numbers but according to industry pros theme parks probably make around thirty percent of their profits prophets from concessions having Tim Post wrote that they sell tens of thousands of monks of butter beer a day. You can also get it in these souvenir veneer mugs. Oh cute and on opening day thirty eight thousand people waited in line to get into the park and the people at the park it can keep up with butter beer demands so they rolled out. It comes in these huge barrels. They rolled it out into the main street and sold it for cash. Only some folks waited up to six hour my goodness for butter. Vir they still thousands of them that way. In the first day yeah and according according to surveys conducted after resort it has the highest quote guests satisfy rating <hes> it's number one thing people want to do when visiting the park order butter beer oh man <hes> and on a personal note the first time I visited the lines for butter beer were about as long as the ones for the attractions it wow. I was like what's happening. What's coming. What what are they waiting for. The line smut are yeah. How see that's the thing that I thought like 'cause I haven't I haven't been to the park and and I was like well? If I go to the park like am I going to get one. I don't really like sugary drinks so like. Is it worth it if to spend like twenty dollars I mean I'm sure it's not twenty dollars like how much money I'm sure they're expensive. Everything in those parks tracy share you like is it worth is is a soda worth seven dollars. Yes just at least once at least once and then you can make your own but the <hes> they've been very smart marketing it because they protected it so well and then you can get it and all these different ways so you gotta try to hot one. I've got to try the Fresno and I get to try all you have to have the souvenir mug. Yeah <hes> and I don't generally like sweet jinx. Either Lauren and I were discussing this before but something about it is is kind of refreshing. It's almost like I don't know that I sit of coke has has the yeah it's almost like that. I don't know it's very good and I would recommend trying at least once. The price is high but one time the rewards are worth worth it. <hes> butter beer of course is not the only food from the Harry Potter Universe to have undergone this magical transition into reality. nope yeah no no no. You've got you've got chocolate. Frogs cauldron cakes fever fudge chocolate wants peppermint mice <hes> they don't move in the real worlds that I'm personally aware of and of course the notorious. Birdie bots every flavor beans. Oh yeah which I've had a few experiences with. I have as well so it's kind of like playing Russian roulette with Jelly beans. There's there's a there's a game that Bertie botts has that that's it's not like a full full board game but but they have these boxes of beans that that come in come in pairs and within each pair. There's one like normal flavor and one terrifying flavor. They look identical so it's like coconut or spoiled milk. You don't know until you put it in your mouth and and is the idea you play with a friend and the bad one yeah. I mean that Ben Ben Bolan of car stuff and they don't want you to know and I have a <hes> alive facebook live snack related show which basically is our excuse to eat on camera when I'm not doing foodstuff things but of all all the very strange things that I've consumed on that show like a number of different preparations of insects <hes> canned meat from around the world. There were some Durian in pastries of all of that stuff the spoiled milk Birdie bots every flavor being was the only thing that's ever made me gag really yeah. That's amazing yeah. I like spit it out immediately. It was like nope so good job good job yeah. They really did awesome I.. The one that got me was horseradish which is strange because I love horseradish but I think that amount that concentrate oh it was too much. I've tried all the flavors like grass vomit but it's the horseradish. That really did man yeah anyway anyway there. I mean they have whole shops. That's just food mostly like candy type. Hi Things shared that they've made brought to life. That's so cute yeah. It's the packaging is on point. It's well they. They really did a good job with design apart from that totally legal universal version. There are a couple of real world versions of butter beer that exist in a gray area area. When I started researching severe I was almost instantly derailed by the discovery of the starbucks secret menu. which has a butter beer? Your Frappuccino it's not so much a secret menu as much as like stuff that you can order starbucks like if you tell them how to make it like if you go up to a counter in like one butter beer please. They'll I'll probably be like what do you want to put in the cup. Sir Or Madam so yeah so if you want to order it <hes> just memorize the drink's ingredients and list them for your Barista because they we'll put more or less anything you want into a cup and let you drink it <hes> but but yet they might not know what about a beer is the internet recommends for a better beer <hes> a cream frappuccino base with a couple pumps each of Caramel toffee nut syrup. Maybe some cinnamon Dulcie Syrup to and you can do the same thing with a whole milk steamer as a basis well. If you want the hot version Asian <hes> one of the reasons we're doing this have so now is one Harry Potter. Day Is July thirty. I don't know when you're listening to this but Brown. This time is when it first came out and also dragon. UNCON- is coming up with this big convention Atlanta where people just up and the whole thing anyway the starbucks in Atlanta always do nerd themed drinks <music> and a couple of years ago. It was better beer. Hell Cute Yeah. That's fun. I always try to try them in their always way too sweet but I like well. I guess I'll try this thing. According getting my local nerd economy another thing that you can buy in the real world is Madam Ambrosia Magical Menagerie <hes> I've never run into this but she appears at conventions and sells butterbean truffles apparently delicious and she says it's her number one selling product usually sold out in twenty minutes. Wow yeah all right. ying-ling has a butter beer ice cream but they maintain it has it's nothing to do with hairy fodder absolutely nothing. No no no no zero. Nothing not a thing from their website quote. The better beer ice cream product of ging's ice cream corporation is derived from a centuries old British recipe for buttered beer or Ale and this product name is not not intended to suggest any relationship with or sponsorship by Warner Brothers Entertainment Inc and the J. K. Rowling Harry Potter characters or themes. We're all very sure yeah. Oh I believe you <hes> England's president file documents to trademark butter beer ice cream in two thousand sixteen eighteen but he went on ahead without waiting for approval so the legal bite of Warner Brothers could and probably will descend upon him at any minute and yes. It's the same thing that makes beer <hes> the ringling family yes that Yang Ling <hes> started an ice cream arm during prohibition well we'll see I haven't seen their ice cream in stores but <hes> I think it might be might be a regional <hes> northeastern kind of thing will if anyone's thrown into it yeah let us know and of course you can make it at home on the simpler end of the butter beer spectrum you pretty not much just need cream soda and Butterscotch Syrup. I used to blend mine together and then I used to freeze it. Excuse me and then blend at side. I'd have the frozen version which I said my favorite and I go without the topping because it is complicated and some of the more difficult recipes involve things like marshmallow the cream and rum extract speaking of room. There are plenty of alcoholic recipes available. Oh yes and speaking of marshmallow cream. That's what you usually use to make. Take the topping. Oh the consistency. It's just difficult to get right yeah but like I said it's most people's favourite part so it's worth it's worth given try. There's I mean so many recipes if you are online you'll you'll find something. Oh yeah yeah so so that's that's the wonderful world of butter beer. Yeah that's the end of our first fictional foods segment and brings us to some listener mail. Yes Hannah wrote in about our honey episodes. She says I had a hive in college and the Queen Candy that kept my queen in her separate. Vile was nothing other than a gummy bear. Yes that's so cute. I know it takes quite a while to eat her way through it giving the beekeeper enough time to place her in the hive after her journey she escapes her doesn't take to the high. The entire colony will follow her and you'll be very sad bolus beekeeper. Oh No yeah another fun fact smoking high works in two ways first it mask warning. FAIRMONT's that are released by special security. B.'s okay second. The rest of the colony thinks there's a fire the eat as much as the honey as a ken to take with them in case they have to evacuate the hive. Their bellies are so full of honey. They become sluggish. Russian can't lift their singers be food. Comas are a very real thing. That's that's just really sweet. I know Oh something we share with bees. Yes Food Komo's also Katie wrote in response to our Apple Pie episode. I recently listened to your episode on Apple Pie and it was my duty as an Ohio University alumni to let you know a tiny bit more about the man you mentioned Rufus Putnam might not be as legendary as Johnny appleseed but he does have to shoe college mascots named after him a how universities Rufus the Bobcat and Marietta Colleges Putnam the Pyo <hes> and I recommend searching of photos out for this because they are delightful. They really are I personally. I've gotten a real kick out of <hes> college. Mascots just mascots in general I used to at it step to blow your mind and a fan wrote into them about how their college mascot was a pretzel. I Ah I love it. That's so funny in gray. I 'cause I don't know how do you do with the what cheer what's Kinda. Dances does does it do. I don't know it's great and we're back here in the present. Thank you passed any any in Lauren O.. It's that that was a long time ago and I feel like we we were still a little bit rough around the edges <hes>. Oh yes and I said that I have some updates for you and I do. <hes> yearlings wings butter beer. Ice Cream is still available. <hes> no litigation has ensued that. I'm personally aware of <hes> I have since tried frozen butter. Beer Anne actually early <hes> took me and one of our other coworkers Sarah Down to Orlando are we <hes> followed her as she was running a race in the Disney parks and yeah <hes> <hes> she she took us around on a extremely well organized adventure throughout <hes> <hes> both the universal parks and some of the Disney parks and yeah frozen butter beer hall. It was delicious way too much sugar for me as so creamy it was like a cream soda but with actual cream mouth feel to it <hes> I absolutely recommend trying it if you have the opportunity and the sugar capacity to do such a thing when we did this episode. I don't think that I had seen fantastic tastic beasts and where to find them and I wanted to add here that one of the main characters is a baker yeah. Jacob Clusky is a character who was a baker. His signature is punch. Excuse which we have done in episode on see we are all jelly donuts from November of two thousand seventeen to learn more about punch keys and that that wraps up our classic episode on Butter Beer. Thank you so much for listening. If you'd like to get in touch with us you can do that thing. <hes> you can contact us via email at hello at saver pod. Dot Com were also unsocial media. You can find us on facebook twitter and that other one instagram. Yes where we are at Sabre pod. We hope to hear from you. Savor is a production of iheartradio and stuff media four more podcasts from iheartradio. You can visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows thank you as always toward Super Producers Dylan Vegan and Inter Howard. Thank you to you for listening and we hope that lots more good things are coming your way <hes> <hes> what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo uh-huh having common. They're all iconic. Businesses founded by regular people so how do it. Where did they go wrong. Where'd they right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry. What have you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Tina Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre listening subscribe on Apple podcast the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts.

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WeWatchWrestling Issue #317

We Watch Wrestling

1:27:33 hr | 1 year ago

WeWatchWrestling Issue #317

"This is a head gum podcast. MHM you watch wrestling reading contagion. Hello there welcome friends pose heels baby faces raw watchers impact watches smackdown watches and watches as w watchers apparently there's there's some demented people who watch uncharted territories on Thursdays or something uncharted territory. I is that beyond show they were talking about in the facebook group. I was like I don't for this is the women of wrestling new Japan wrestlers you see W G C game changer wrestling championship pinch wrestling from Hollywood C. L. O. fucking AAA NWEA W hey w what am I supposed to do mice was you. It reminds me of when you try to carve out a little time man quit making excuses accuses carve out a little fine. It reminds me of when who wants to be a millionaire what was popular CPAP zone so then they were yes right kids kids look for that Jesse pop. You can see him. You can see he's not a millionaire. You could see his face melted. He's like in that that show became popular and then all of a sudden somebody in an office somewhere probably with a actual tyrannosaurus rex skull mounted on his wall said Gardell play the fucking thing every night. Let's squeeze every drop of life out of this thing that we can earn it down. Burn it down down south. I have a personal philosophy that I'm GonNa Insert into your theme song now. You're wrestling Mat McCarthy Pam. This is the professional wrestling encyclopedia Mr Convince April. This is the we watch wrestling podcast. We're here each and every Wednesday at three sixty am we did. We did some discussing. We were like well. What do we do? It sounds like meltzer's is moving the observer to Thursday do we do we watch Wednesday and then do we do Thursday but then it's like Vincent smackdown downs on Friday and then Sunday paper or watch the news on Monday and it was like suddenly it was like oh the perfect perfect thing to do is to do with nothing. 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I don't give a shit about it's so funny how some people when they're grasping for something thing to complain about like Oh all rose not the same. Where's the power all but I never heard someone say that people complain about you? Oh yeah when they stopped doing the Pyro if it were like Oh this dude all right to get a little off but that's what we do here right we get a little off and then we come back and then we go off back so I was at I was at Dave's on Broadway last night which is a bar in Glendale that fits ticks all the boxes for me. Dark poorly attended jukebox cheap jukebox and of course they got football on Monday. There's a guy next to me though what he's doing I mean I I'd asked he's like just talking. I don't know if he's talking with bartender taught himself. I put wrestling on but I don't think anybody would even really care I would like that or whatever and and so then we begin to converse become best friends. I wouldn't say that but but the the thing that when you said some people complain about pilot he starts talking about how he he really likes to Jim Cornets podcast and like he doesn't agree with them and everything but he agrees on a lot of things and he's like he starts going. I fucking hate George. I hope fucking dies and I go hold on wall. I go why I go. Why does it matter to you like why do you wish l. on the guy like you can just as what and then he's like? Okay all right all right. You're right you're right but then he goes but these people who say that he's like they compare him to like Cicero that he's as good as and I was like who the fuck he goes. You need to go on read it as I actually I do read. He was like I I was like I said this is a Lotta Shit. I can't do cornet where he's like wishing like harm and ill on people and it's like they're just as no basis for it but right like his new gimmick emma cassette he he wants Vince Oh to die so he can pee on the guy's grave but I did and it's like because you didn't like the way he acted the Vince meetings right. It's like what are you doing because you feel like he got you fired from a job. You hated that's that can't be good for you you know but so I was able to to affect him a little bit because he was also saying you know like I don't like a W. There's no way I don't understand how they're going to like. He's like Darby Allen's athletic but like look at him and I said hold on dude. I was like first of all yeah maybe that roster's not like stemmed stern but it's also the way that it's presented right and who sees it and and I said do you remember when when it was fuck in nineteen ninety-seven and you're seeing the ray mysterious for the first time did he not get the fuck over like come on. He's like Oh okay. I can see that it was like all right well. Then we knew the fuck alone I got other things to do now but like we are a lone reed of positivity in a C- Z. of Shit my friend yeah good place. It is so funny to me too of like you know. Oh I hate it. You W it's like like there's no way they can. It's like all right well. Maybe maybe not but I don't know what to tell you what I wish. Joey Legionella would die is like that's like there was some other like like you know caveat too high or whatever and I was like did like dirty match no oh but but it was like you know the old you know falls in a fucking but of steaks I like how he was going to die. I feel like he may have like sharpen in bad like like a trap set in the movie Predator right I I hope he. XYZ And dies and I was like all right man. You need to chill the fuck out. Wow 'cause that ain't cool is like really he's ruining wrestling for you. He's like well kind of and I was like all right say he does. It's still needs Diana violent way for you to feel better about it or what there is. It's incredible to think that someone specifically someone is ruining rests not not even Vince McMahon who has more power than anyone in wrestling yeah isn't ruining wrestling if anything the way that he books wwe w. e. and if it is in a manner that you don't like Guess What It has begotten the WS the game changers the fucking are awaits the PWG's superhumans that's the only reason lease Dooley's EC like it's never been better than AC AC W it's like there's still plenty of Shit. That's likey seed up. There's there's more wrestling now than ever. There's more good wrestling. There's more more shitty wrestling. There's more of everything and it's easier to consume all of it and we're also it's like we're not talking about any possible astle way for a match or a promotion to somehow kill the business. It's like no I liked the movie dirty work a lot. The people thought it was terrible. Did It fucking ruin the film industry. Did it make it so people wouldn't go back to see BRI. The I mean we're not talking about it's not nineteen fifty and when you know some some expose is GonNa fuck and make it so people aren't coming back there like an even when that happened it silted Stilton so just watch what you want Shefa Gotcha. I mean the idea of somebody like there's so much wrestling. I don't like that I don't watch there's so much wrestling that I love and then I still don't watch 'cause it's. I gotta get up in the morning. I gotta go to sleep at night and in between there's other things need to get done. It's not there yet. Is it spent thirteen minutes. Let's yeah well. Most of it was us. You know Phil Hampton film in the wall vents. It only takes five hours uploaded. That's fair. I Love Parade. I thoroughly enjoyed the season premiere of raw. Yeah I do too I mean it and the things that I thought were preposterous. I still further enjoyed enjoyed. it you know it's a Russo Russo Roussev rousseff agent Johnny recieve Roussev poor guy he is getting booked into shoot divorce and a a shoot getting fired from his job. That's that is the only outcome yes from his actual real life wife making making out with another wrestler in front of him on the stage and at Vince McMahon The guy who's signing the check who told Rousseff to go out there. Stand stand there and just hold your unit while some jacked up guy makes up with your wife. I I don't really want to do this. They are just go out there and do it. While Vince McMahon is in the back watching Rousseff do the very thing that Vince McMahon told rousseff do Vince McMahon. I'm telling you is thinking thinking inside of his own head fucking pussy well yeah I mean they you know that we have seen many examples of this that timing time again and it yeah it's it's a real shame. It was hard to see you know you think if someone who's actually see something like that the you know the color Michael out of their face ace but because he doesn't seem to be tanning face just the rest of his body. It was very hard to tell he stood there and did nothing yeah He's he's not on TV. He's not GonNa win the Program K. Course not he's not GonNa win the fucking blow off and if offscreen screen if him and Lana are still traveling in the same car he's GonNa get in trouble for that so he's going to have to drive alone while while Bobby Lashley and Lana drive to the next town in there fucking rent they're going to do a fucking ride along with rousseff a load just sitting here. The thought alone is thought imminence thoughts that it's just a lot and bobby lashley having the road trip of a lifetime they're stopping for snacks. They're throwing popcorn and each others mouth our hi five in the toll booth guy like that like he stops they get pulled over by the cops. He has has lana get out like dude the little like walk around check out her but mu all of a sudden off and it cuts the fucking rousseff and he's just look at the gas station and there's gas is pouring all over him and because they are I can't use this Burrito or this microwave heat up this Burrito here for one button on the microwave and it just blows was up like it gets the rue seventy just like blowing in a breathalyzer like doing field surprised beat task somehow Bobby Lashley finally has some charisma my finger on us. Oh my God like this is business death. This is death for marriage and professional wrestling but my Clark. It's a pointed attack on them for learners. What for years ago go they ruined the Summer Rae Angle Somehow? Do you remember that knowing me now that I think that there will there had been some public. It's another you you know a public disgruntle where you see the you know other up and have been punished for you know they were they were gone forever that like the root of now. It's time to bring him back and now it's time to punish them. there's no other way to look at it now a really WanNa fuck with this guy I mean God damn yeah but still wasn't as brutal as the fucking Miz TV VAT was Barroux tall dude or Ruutel and the funny thing is I could feel like ms was in charge. You know like flare comes out and oh we gave Rick Alive. Mike and he's already starting to say Shit. Already is like when so ms cuts him off and then he announced Hogan and as the camera goes away you commits put his arm around flare start talking. Hey Man refund me right. Just shut the fuck cool at Rick. I you know I love you. Gave me the figure four and I love you but please but try and act a little bit more like Jimmy Hart when he comes out here and say nothing Jimmy's trying around a make trying to walk the line but I mean for that segment to have happened the way it did and you put the fuck. Can you put a Hollywood racist Hogan in the ring only to announce that he's going to Saudi Arabia Saudi radio brother Ya Gotcha they get me over there dude I it was going on crown prince just want you to know I'm coming home and dude a bringing any chicks with this time brother so leave the bone saw at home. Do you not try to hack up the Hawks Ter- boop it was going on what's going on. The crown. Prince's just wanted to know man. I am falling to pieces over over here about getting my ass to Saudi Arabia dude yeah that should be going on crown prince. You know I just you know I I just WanNa. I don't want you to lose your head over this but you know when I come over there brother. I'm just going to have a real good too. I really appreciate take you back up the brinks truck since they gotta Miss Trick or treating notes on Halloween. The crown jewels right have poor holster. Dude likes to open up the door. Give out the airplane bottles vodka. The kids see a special occasion like Halloween when Malibu when Hogan opens up the front door he starts arts and squatted position so like sounds like a haunted house it was it was going on Crown Printz. I'm going to need a little extra money on on Halloween night when over there in Saudi Arabia because I'm missing out on and all that extra work I'm going to be doing making sound effects. Annoys is at haunted houses. My fear too is that you know if if flair is unable to win this lawsuit about the the trademark of the man that he's got going going with. WBZ right right that until such time he's not gonNA be able to get back in any custom fitted suits last night looked like fucking circus tent sofas custom made it was at a time when it was a little bigger than he is now. I didn't even notice I'm all over it. I was all over screen in Forte. I tell you once those sunglasses that ms wears you need a pair. Oh fuck what are they probably like an eight hundred dollars I mean I think if in their careers I don't know that they're that much more than like a ray ban or something I mean it's probably a couple hundred bucks. Maybe a hundred and something though six of fucking gorgeous I can't get over over every look good in them too. I would birthdays coming up. Everybody Manny's birthday's coming up. That's true. That's true I don't know what I loved. Opt more about that segment when like like like there was a point where ms he starts saying like he's introducing introducing the thing and then flare totally throws him off by just being godly this suit yeah you look great and then ms has to like basically basically go back to one and like say the same shit over again just so he can remember where he's going right. Hogan comes out and Hogan's just like Rick Flair. You're the greatest of all time and then flare basically gets up and flips his chair and he's like I'm sick of listening to your fucking song. You can't even touch me and I'm like he just complemented you and I as this amazing disconnect. It makes you wonder what the actual verbiage was. No kidding then the best part had to be while my favorite parts were flare starts cutting his promo and immediately they just random music yeah yeah well I mean wedding into. Do you gotTa try to control it Somehow Ivy. I'm just I've been in gorilla man but that's that's it like hit Rainey's music San Randy out now because then at the end of the show it's Vinci's other favorite thing of like draw draw out like bobby how long was bobby Lashley standing there waiting for lawn and come out and she's not in the fucking toilet right. She's she's right behind that curtain curtain waiting for them to say go and Vin Santo draw it out really draw out. Make it uncomfortable but you knew the ran in man was gonna come in and he got he got the branding. Get out of Hogan's ASS. Oh that was that was incredible. Well then my favorite my my ultimate favorite part was was then rain. He's like let's do the match now and then you just see him. Go get this carpet out of the ring. Get this like furious Rainey's going to wrestle on a carpet rug burn no way. Did you see that I must afforded it to you. On on his instagram instagram. He posted a picture. I don't even know who's old man was wrestling some clip from somewhere in the early eighties of Bob Morton junior wrestling sling at probably the garden or whatever and it's just this incredible cell where he's got somebody in the corner and they just pop they just poop and Bob Orton junior makes like he turns around he starts selling it and then the wobbling he does he's. He's just got like water legs. It's incredible. It's incredible. It's like the you don't see this kind of artistry anymore right and to the point where then he loses his footing and then falls all the way to the opposing turnbuckle Corner Derry and then bumps on the like the bodmer middle buckle uh-huh now he's down again. I mean it's wow it's fucking unbelievable find. Actually it's that good. fucks my phone dude well now. You're through my instagram. Dude are all those Hogan to be there. Friday I know rock is yeah rocks going to be there Friday Bud ed stone cold but are they bringing back flair Hogan on Friday to well. It seems like it because now they got a they got around that they still got four more each to pick doc gooden so there's at least eight segments a flare and Hogan recruit talent. Let's get down to the art house about one really we settle in down there on Friday and it's going to be a mad house have a couple of courses before the I mean especially because it shows actually fucking sold out or very close. It's make date tarpon off the three hundred zero time this thing is legit do favors to get a table at the art house too legit Egypt quit. How fucking we just fucking I think well we just got the tickets before I bought him that night right when they did the like you know you can get tickets for the next event now now? I don't know if we realized that this is what it was or not. That's what I'm saying. I don't even know if it was the exact same seats. Shall we did luck yeah. Those are good seats all right. We're going to be all right. I don't know who who is this out Tito here. Watch system `tatoes Tito comes off the top rope. Oh look at his legs. Look at that. Oh yeah that's great. That's fucking check out. Randi's instagram posted posted September nine Laurent Man I did watch some of the R. O. H. All yeah a preview it's I mean there. There's there's good wrestling but it just it. I don't know it just the things of over there things have changed I house my man Gresham. Gresham lethal had a good match Gresham so my shirt the two big you knew what you were doing when I said to him you got any double. X Z goes Nah. I don't have any. I'm like well. What do you got because I'm here to give you money? I gotta get into something because you just put on a hell of a fucking show all weekend yeah triple X. I was wearing in the car. A favorite cut of movie sort of a bitch it was wearing yesterday in the car. glenis turns Michelle Michiko so what's I shared that because you know and I go yes yes I know and in in my back my head I'm thinking don't tell me that this is the size share should beware are just bumped up to a double ax Noggin to start all new she goes. It's too big like choose. You know how you can tell how she's like this seam here supposed to be up on your shoulder and then she goes. I learned learn that on queer eye honest giving me honest dude well how was even that was that was a good good match to I don't really dig him but right he just re-signed with them for like saving money. Bateman wrestled not he I think he had a dark match with them. Good the Bateman. That's cool good get that money. Oh Dude. Let's get him a job over there. Some you know what I'm saying. Can we get a payday. Do you think it's going to be him and Matt Cross on the nineteenth over suburban fight at the Hi hat in Los Angeles becoming deresh from Tom's wedding. that's my plan. There's a suburban fight that night. Yeah Oh holy Shit I mean oh civil weddings at like four. You know all those things go a little bit of the end of the thing and it's like what are we doing here. Now we go straight to the what we do in in suits and we call the actor ought not saying any any wedding reception usually short after a little yeah. I'M NOT GONNA be dancing you either getting wedding drunk or you're going to suburban fight and we're going to suburban fight. I ain't drunk that we got to go to the baby. Well there count on a slap. Let me let me talk about it with my my wife that things starts at four I mean come on by nine o'clock. We should be in March and five hours later is their wedding in La. I thought it was yeah. It's like right it. Yeah it's knowing what's the exact address. It's in. LA CBS' wedding baby yeah. How about that Rob's going to be in town yeah man yeah? He asked me. It's like it's like you know when some people come to town that you gotta get him some weedy to get him some. Do It's like just can do send. Can you give me some code. Red Can't get it back east. I said let me see what I can do. I'll go over to let me see what I can do. Three Alito bottle of mountain dew Jarl's those of you who are new to the program if you've never watched on Youtube Glenn Dance takes a grocery list grocery list do that now pick three young. DVD Yes that's good Glenn is going to be there on Friday. A big show big show all olives heroes from the nineties. We'll be there. You're all hands on deck. Do you think his favourite King Corbin will be there. He's a raw guy although all hands on deck I mean I think we're going to finally see Rick Rubin Back in action. He's been these shows a B yeah fucking triple H and Stephanie had to go to him back Ricky old tricky Rick Rubin and what's he making new Beastie Boys Record Checking on this upload. Oh up loading the PATRIAE on patrons. They get a video the over just a couple of bucks. It's a real pain in the Dick this boy may you. You feel bad. Imagine how Dominic feels Dell's twice like this you dummy shit. Now are unite tonight. I watched annex t last week. I watched it just sorta riddle and the fucking Dane right right right trying to get my head around that Guy Zara helium yeah he's all right. He seems like he's He's very good but he's one of these guys where I get told he's better than I have observed. If that makes sense okay yeah they're like you gotta look closer right there like it. You know it's it's eat right. It's one of those sometimes it's funny why watch him not that. I don't enjoy it. It's just nothing grabs me and it's one of those times when I watch his matches and I he and I have the thought for a second. I go oh I mean I don't know anything about wrestling you know what I mean every day for me but but now you've got riddle Bro and Adam Cole for the big uh about that the big week one of the war you wanted a war yeah baby. You got a war yeah R. I P the fake razor died yeah poor Guy Rick Wagner. I don't even even know his name forty nine though that doesn't that's unusual yeah yeah. That's unfortunate very berry. I didn't know he I was tag partners with fucking awesome in FM W Yeah I would love to watch some of that shit yeah he he had much much more of a career than just being fake razor turns out turns out that was a a low point in his career and never fully recovered turns turns out Glenn Jacobs he did all right after yes able to survive an x t it was a good show yeah I mean it's it's funny because I enjoyed I enjoyed riddle and Killian because it was I don't know I'm just it. It's I can watch. I don't know at a certain point streetfight shit. It's just it's very unlike especially in like a wwe setting right like okay. We're GONNA a pause the Kendo stick and we're just GONNA hit each other with the thing which is also what's funny is I I for whatever reason I was just fucking around on the network and I started and watching from the lethal lottery when sting Abdul the butcher where a team against beautiful bobby and flying Brian and stings already out there and then Abdulah just comes waddling down and he's given a big Sundays I guess we're friends. We're friends partners and then immediately taxes own part and and he's got this like you know it's like a pool noodle with like a like a shrunken head on the top of it and he's and he's just and you can tell the way that he's hitting him him with it and then once Brian comes down and he grabs it starts like just walloping Abdulah in the head with it. I'm like if this thing had any weight to it. They would both be right. It's clearly just a foam fun thing. It's just a nerf but it's Jim Ross on on the commentary eclipse hitting him with Kendo stick. I'm like boy that the meaning has they that is an all catch all term well. Let's before became the Singapore cane around that same time probably gotta all of the Singapore cane but real bro. He just being shoes no socks same outfit just streets right no shoes no socks but he will serve as is your ass reached might but you know 'cause I didn't it didn't have a lot of that. It was it was the the least streetfight streetfight ever scene but those elements not being at play doesn't bother me as much yeah so do you think tonight that A. EDW they reveal the other sixty percent of the roster that they cody says we only know forty percent of the roster. It was coming out who knows man. I I think there's GonNa be some surprises right REUSS UV DU rousset don't give a fuck man show up on aws Yousef. Yes of that'd be amazing. Oh my God Tan your face and get to DC knows maybe demolition comes out just fucking fucking tears him up you know about the rock and roll express all weekend band baby. Let me tell you watch that show yet me. Neither neither either you were you were you were sending me the screen grabs of Tana. She crying wolf ugly. Cry Ugly cry but you know that's as band tiger retiring. Oh you know retiring retiring. Yeah you know so tiger retires long overdue. You know not that it it. It's been a an honor and a privilege to watch him work but it's an and we've got to see him live but every single time tiger comes out on like this guy is ancient but I think it's I think he's retiring retiring because he has a lot of duties behind the scenes. Oh He's gone home. I think he's going home that that's that's the sense I got not that that he's going to stop refereeing one match every show or two right think he's GonNa stop doing all his other duties well. That is the other funny thing is because then and you know you get like red shoes comes out and he's just beat read because he just fucking referee the last match he always has that look like in his face. You know that's red shoes. SHOTA lumina red shoes guessing being athletes. I mean that's that's bad. She was kid. Oh sure sean sure he should wear red shoes guy. He's got his his seat is athletic guesses. His old man's Gimmick at what point did he start wearing red shoes. I wonder I thought you were going to say at what point wait the show will the Sammy Guevara match take place. Everyone's waiting to see Samovar. Don't like seeing the I don't like him but you know what I don't wish any ill on no yeah. There's the difference there's the difference you know eight like that. It's not that I he's clearly talented athlete whether you're killing the business or not you know he's GonNa Bring Awa down with him but I mean it's just I just get a bad vibe from him. I don't like him him. As a person now obviously I don't know him as a person and he just he's got like I'm like there's just a not effective. He'll work for me right right. It takes me out of it. I'm just like it doesn't feel like you're putting on a show. It feels like you really are a jerk whether he is or not yeah that's that that is the feeling I get and failing aren't facts. I don't know a thing about this killing nothing more than fairly vents vince that's the other thing too is like you can't even be like yeah but he's he's great at flipping and flopping. It's like there's there's a hundred other guys you know the that. Can I get my flip flop else right. There's very few things that can overshadow what there's very few things that someone does well in wrestling that could overshadow just the one thing I don't like sure and that's your he's got a negative charisma. You know I am repelled from him. I'm not drawn in right YEP. You know what I mean. That's where we're at but you know maybe but we'll be swayed but yes sure sure I'm open. That's right right. I'm I am not dug in on the beach. Jim Cornet like well. There's only two options. He can drop dead or he me. That's like all right Jim. What's your fucking can relax? You know I'm not like this is not a hill. I'm not even on a hill yeah. We're on a beach amount of our now. I'm just enjoying the sand and the water down. The breeze is nice. Fat Looks Better Tan aren't Anderson but have you listened to his podcast yet. I haven't listened to but my my my a new friend from Dave's on Broadway teed never great take on it. He didn't like it. He was like he's not. He's not going on radio. I was like Oh we went. Sauna stark asked he's had some some some fun stories. He's like you know if it's not Jim Cornet I. I don't really like to listen and like all right. Well then wow he's back is dug in I'M GONNA turn this other away where I was before and and I hope that the football on it's probably for everyone's benefit that they didn't put wrestling on well as that guy would've fucking been holding court man right but here's the thing was literally holding court Bauer. We're talking about like it was me pop gnarly him and there may have been someone off in the distance. There wasn't real allow people to hold court with. I don't know I like it yeah. It's right on Broadway away in Glendale Avenue right on the corner Dave's yeah a real was dave there no I guess it's there's two days and own it. I heard and say whoa slow down but nevertheless he was that Shit during the Olympics like twenty five years ago Dan Dan and Dave Oh then in daybreak they were both in the decathlon something like that but then it was like a reebok thing and then right when third one of them didn't qualify right they didn't qualify. We backed the wrong Horse Reebok. Look look those up on Youtube kids. The Dan Dave spots Dan and Dave spots. You know who did who did Bono's was at Nike Yes oh Jackson he was a Nike Guy and then every so often like Bo diddley would show up and goes you don't know Diddley and it's like this is just a writes itself Madison Avenue who is that this will be the last one since who is who is the the basketball player that used to dress up like an old lady eighty. Oh that was grandma Larry Johnson yeah that one I mean they don't like I never never been interested in sports what the fuck was was he nike I think he might have been Nike to yeah he was on the Charlotte Hornets had the gap in his tooth played at UNLV but I mean Holy Shit like the the the shoe commercials used to like Charles Barkley. I'm not a role model. fucking Dennis Rodman it Mars Mars blackmon played by a spike Lee. Oh forget about it. Yeah I mean it's just it's ain't the same same things at the same time. Change people change wrestling changes and you can either get on board or watch the old stuff yeah you can like here. Here's my question for meltzer would be and I guess there's gotTa be a way for me to articulate it that he can actually answer it but it is this idea of like 'cause there's so much wrestling now is it. Is it more than ever. I'm saying for a guy like Dave because 'cause like back in the day it was like wasn't he getting tapes of everything so wasn't he always watching midsouth men Fez Portland Japan so I think like even if it is more which I think it probably is. It has to be easier because he's not like the waiting on a tape then you know Mike he can he can consume quicker and easier and I don't know but it feels like there's there's not more because it say like everybody had weekly TV right because you got Crockett Florida fucking every territory yeah and he has has a working knowledge of all of it so wasn't he watching all of it the minute like because you figure he was getting tape every day and he watched every tape so let let's look if this way though so Monday now is three shows 'cause all those shows were probably an hour talking about time yeah. There's five five hours. WB in fact there's more because you still have to oh five still a main event technically an xt so like that asked account for each probably territory tape that he was watching and then as a good point but again it's easier than like which which complicates okay well. I guess that's the other thing too. Is You gotta think 'cause that that year. What like five years ago now when they when they put put the G. One on American pay of your first time ever I my memory is as even meltzer was like this is the first time ever watching every rematch in every night of the G. One because you figure all he was seeing was which which is predominantly what is on new Japan world world is just matches from their best of tapes that they put out since forever or whatever it on the TV at the time 'cause what's funny like I'm watching the Massawa? DVD's said I bought it yeah wherever we were sarcastic and Shamburg right before the guy drove before the blues brother's showed up I didn't I didn't even follow what was the deal with that. Guy was drunk. I never uh-huh never heard never heard of this. it's clearly a dub of a tape set and it and it and I forgot I was like Oh right so many of these tapes it was just highlights of the match joined in progress or just the finish or whatever's important and then they put a few full length matches because it's also with Massawa. The matches are at least twenty five yet thirty minutes long. You know definitely those are the quick one for me. God Damn God damn Bam you think will will eight w clear million viewers will be a millionaire above so interesting right yeah yeah we shall see because I think the last time I talked Wade Keller I said eight hundred thousand but then annexed he's been doing what like one I think they they've hovered a little over a million both times. I think I believe so. Does I E W you get a million. I don't know well. I'm you just it's. It's such a I think between the it's it's a possibility but you also now you have an X. T. running against if for the people who are watching it on tv not on the network and then there's also a baseball all wild card game that night which could siphon a few off potentially baseball play baseball baby October well. That's why I'm just Reggie Jax. How how soon will will the A smackdown be preempted for by the time the world series starts? There's GonNa be a Friday game and that Shit's moving f. one or something. There's no fucking way F- breath right F S One. Do you even get F S One. I think I do yeah. I mean it's it's pretty it's like. It's at the top of this if you have a sports package I'm pretty sure it's like I don't well. There's no neat well. I get spangling there. You go you go antenna TV. I get me TV. I GET GET TV Buzzer I do I also get buzzer abuzer now. It's another thing I don't want him to reboot. I leave supermarket sweep. Won't let's watch the old ones. You Ain't got to reboot. It got to Redo it the do it over. No no you still get a text every once in a while. Is this you on word match or whatever it's been a while what the call chain-reaction Jane react gun says on it too so funny yeah. It was a such time to be alive but do you think anybody ever watches chain-reaction in reaction. They're like hey is that guy on the middle from Russia TV is that the guy from our TV is that that Russian Lewis Black is it Putin's little lackey right there I don't know do they get a million I think they'll be just shy. I think it'll be somewhere eight hundred nine hundred yeah yeah. That's what I think. It's GonNa be very interesting to find out also will be very interesting to see if any what effect it has on than exte- number sure look at it this way I think they're very well. May Be people who we'll only watch eighty W and just don't obviously it goes both ways. There are people who are we're GONNA watch. WWe Who will have no interest in aid W I don't maybe that person is out there the person who only watches annex t hey but doesn't wanNA watch a E W I'm also curious because of now annexed team moving to USA and it being pushed on raw how many people were like Oh cool. I can watch that now because I watch raw but but I don't I don't pay ten bucks. A month for the network's never really watched Ryan exte- but that's cool that I can watch it now. I did like when the it was such a Vince McMahon moment like when the street prophets were like it's on the same channel. You're watching right now. They're like we're on the USA network. which is this channel? Uh they go through a list in Atlanta. It's channel right right right on your guide. You have direct TV. It is twelve forty one. If you have dish it is this that's the other kind of so dish network. I don't know what portion of you know this country country they make up right the viewership for dish but dish also owned sling and maybe something else but they are unless it got solved there right now in a battle where they don't have. They pulled Fox from their shit. You know they're like those dealing with those deals so now. I don't know that that does a number on smackdown but I don't know if dishes in this part of the country they've Kinda. The Cable Shit is Kinda done like the Mafia I it is. There's like it's is like direct is well. Maybe direct. TV's everywhere. I think dishes too. It's a matter but you have to calm. I mean it's like it's so spectrum is is here but it's not there higher but I think like the dish and direct TV and Shit you can just but I think like where there's Cox cable. There's no time Warner and they kinda right. They're like alright. That's yours and this is my I I also 'cause I have the Samsung TV that has like gets own shit going on besides whatever have plugged into it so whenever turn it on it's on a channel called like that's called Arena or stadium network or something and I will say two or three out of every ten times I turn the TV on. There's honor really must have some TV on on there because they'll just be a a ring of honor TV going on so that must be like a sinclair channel. Maybe maybe yeah it's it's an see him. PUNK is sometimes on their. He's he's like sits in on one of the talk shows that they have on really it's called Arena or stadium something what was up with punk he he got like a a screen test to be on the on that show that Rene and booker are host and so funny strange world world and him in the Cabana have did they patch it up. No they did not patch the suit was dropped. Oh but then someone was like someone of course tweeted at punk and then he was like I want to go to trial. He's like you know he's. He's the guy why why why didn't he want to keep going and he's like comedy with. I love that guy would have done anything for him and the funny thing is if he just would ask me for the money I would have given it to him but he tried to extort extort me and it did like it's so funny watching that interview of starcast. It's like maybe he's mellowed out. Maybe and like now he's just he probably got paid beforehand any sit there and look at all this money believe that he's he might be in town within the next these the these movies at the beyond fest over there at the Egyptian the girl on the third floor or whatever he's going to be there to watch the trailer tonight my bag baby I give that's Dr forgot well. I watched the trailer and and you got scared now but I mean you know you gave you iskin crawled. It looked like a good movie but he didn't seem like a good actor. You know I don't know maybe it's maybe it is. I'm like I can't not see see Siyam punk yeah well. He's got I guess he's got his fist taped right with the exeter. Well I mean did the trailer feature any I but at the same time if you are watched a movie with Iraq and was living color playing over the trailer not battle to bounce that it's my rider after play that every time I walk on screen I don't know but like Dwayne I mean obviously he's got to be Eisele. Center on Friday hours sometimes more charismatic than punk but I also think Dwayne like took acting classes and I must have the punk. I know that he's not that I'm like Oh you can do Shakespeare in the park but I'm like twain it's like he he worked on it and he's also been in a bunch of shit now too but you can see it already yeah like when he was still on like raw every we was never rudy poo you. Are you gonNA YOU'RE GONNA yell out on on Friday. The you got you got any barbs and jazz are GonNa try to throw out the rack. You think you'll be able to hear me hopefully that that that one kid so I feel like we see him every time we're at staples and he just it feels like it's his time to shine and then he's just got one like he'll stand up as much as he possibly can and he loves doing the what's the. What's this dance move where you just like you? Turn your head one way and then the other way yeah. I don't know it's site. What's his name? Did it in rush hour Chris Tucker when they're driving the car he do you know. Do you know the kid I mean. I don't know if I do. He's always in that section in your mind to tries to protect me by shutting out things right right that are potentially harmful but I mean he's he. He just strikes me as someone. I'm one that he's like. This is my time to shine. I'm at wwe. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about right right. He's always in that section and then but it but this is why bring up because then you don't see him I have never seen him at a wrestling show right right I only see him at staples. WWE and he probably is like he's don't get it twisted. I am not a wrestling fan. I'm WWe Fan. I don't even think it's to that point. I think he's like I'm the big wrestling fan in the world and it's like oh well. What do you think about Joey Jamila? I don't watch I hope he crap yeah this Guy Dave said he goes to PWG really I mean as I like I know every single person goes. PWG But sure just like ninety eight percent of them but what I would so funny there was some hours candice posted a picture of a of a video of her wrestling Gargano and and and what's the names in the front row Shayna and and Kansas like you know basically like you know she's been watching me for years and I can say ooh yeah and my comment was that that a referee from eighty w you know it's not right. It's funny. Then some kid replies to to me he goes yes. This is Peter G. That's rick knocks the they am yeah yeah. You're asking that right so I replied I was like Damn. I should have paid more attention when I was at this show yeah you got served Mattie MC see I know God. I kept zoo. I was like the angle that they were at. You couldn't see us this is this is the show where it's it's her Rhonda. Were in the front row and we were like two rows back with bright. Oh you know Internet is ripe with misunderstanding to say the least bro Doubt about it for just one dollar. You can join US tonight to watch a e w live on patriotic. It should should not be a debacle at all this livestream together you will be able to see and hear us and we will be coming straight into your home. It's a second screen experience that's True Uh and if they want to wait they can watch a post as I can watch it post yeah they can do a little post mourn with us. You will be watching annex t on our own time that's right and and we may or may not talk about it next week on this very program. It's up to us. We're we probably will. We're going to be at smackdown this Friday. Yeah Probably GonNa Watch fucking Helena Sell on Sunday yeah. Did you know it's so funny that the least important thing happening this week and wrestling is the Sunday's paper view yeah with this an insane match right the most insane match that there is boy man. I tell you fucking Monday. I'm like but that new ron ounce team they were fine. I kept thinking that the one guy was Michael Cole and then and then I I would like tune 'cause i. I just I tune out yeah. I just try to watch the wrestling and if I need to put it on mute. I do catch Jerry Lawler as I. I like to hear a COUPLA. That's just as I didn't use it. Because I was like well. The Kings GonNa Fuck an interesting that zing the half I have to imagine he was ordered to wear what he wore right because he didn't have one of his crazy shirts on he wore like jacket and the fucking Jaren natured work clothes because also the story was that Vince didn't wasn't like jazzed about lawler. I don't know how that happened then if he like there's there's no way fucking. He didn't want lawler ten years ago right so then but but then that begs the question how wide you know there's nobody else you can't throw those two out and then not have got to have a ring general out there with even though Vince in the headset yelling at them you know Chuck Taylor is not available scholars not available. What's the deal is V? I mean there's always there's been this global vince wasn't at Baba lower triple. H wasn't a blah. Ah Blah Vince wasn't at route. It was like this big Syke. That'll last convince lovie there well no. I think think he was like specific day. I'm having to deal with something related to Fox Paul. Not You the other Paul Bald fat one not going to be here tonight. You're done wasn't there either. K DE K B well. Katie was definitely there when they cut together the fucking firefly's funhouse the fuck it. I don't know what I dislike about those the more just the the molesting of like children's programming which I think is just so lazy and it's such a easy. It's it's beyond easy target like anytime. Somebody makes fun of Mister Rogers. I'm just like yeah but he's putting himself out there and it's a cheap shot. They're also just irritating but the fucking sound effects that is a pure Kevin done no like they did it when and we did I remember we'll Sasso just being beside himself when we did the when the three stooges hosted raw right yeah and they added added in sound effects and post and he's like what the fuck is this and I'm like this is what they do know yeah like the sound of wind wind whistling between two front teeth but it's just it's so it's it's that but it's it's that's their idea of comedy. Vince McMahon's idea of comedy is a man getting his foot stuck in a bucket. You know that's it then this shitting his pants then he'll shit his pants or or a man with no shirt climbing into a coffin and having sex with a a mannequin or is it like the funeral director was in the next room with an actual funeral and had to come in and be like could you please stop laughing so loudly Sir funniest thing we've ever done. I don't appreciate black humor. You say black face they've done that as well. Yes and people didn't appreciate that either Hollywood Racist Hogan going to Saudi Arabia. It's incredible courses. Did you see the localized Promo on twitter yes undertaker and Hogan Saudi Arabia Arabia. We'll be back oh God. I don't even need the money it's just so much. I'd be a fool not to I mean I do and I will be there dude but I need every single penny dude ever talked about the lawyer fees and that Gawker trial food uh hey mark doesn't want his. I'll take it to fucking paint me up. I don't give a shit. I'll go there twice. Brutus has not available boo. ooh Brutus can't booth I'll tell them the planes even an hour after it does everyone roots and while I still slang his sister ooh but her face a different one oh yeah who is gone is dry right. He just Greg. I'm greg on your sister. If I was abyss goes wife Oh we were going to get mad at me about that one Steve. I'm used to ooh shoot she. She attractive shoot Steve got two cats. He's at the dog family family. It's always been a dog family. They've got a couple of cats controversy and so he's going to be there on Friday Yep. What are they GONNA do we're? We're going to have to wait. Find out isn't so funny. They must have pitched to him. You'RE GONNA go light at the yard house and then hit McDonald's or you're going to go heavy yard house and maybe you just like swing a six piece. Gosh I thought about it. I mean if it's sold out everything should be open. All the stations everywhere should be open been yeah. You'll be able to get a pop popcorn. If you want you know or you could get a nice. we use all those gift certificates we had for the art house. You'd better go through the file. Find that dude. I'm looking used them all now. Now that's not where you would have put them is it. I have two drawers that I use well we're GONNA have to. We're GONNA have to put this one in his right off off. Should they pitch to Austin. It's amazing that neon neither him nor rock ever wound up hosting you like their own interview segment show all right welcome back to rock bottom people. I mean he would do the rock concert right you know but like stone cold never was like wow weakness snake Ba yeah backyard snake bit. WHO's coming out this week? Who am I going to stone this week however week another dumb on them because I mean even like dude love had the the fuck was the name of his show all right yeah? It's gone you think works is already in town gathering material yeah sorry put pen to paper Brian D. words. What if he said this man fucking Brian was it's? I've I've been trying to turn this fan off. A judge ruled in. I just dawned me. It's on the of China just turn it off and I just don't I can't get it so funny. My ceiling fans on kids wanted off wirtz where on the ground getting material when Knbr Branko words would like come in the room and he'd be like all right. Let's let's figure out something for you know Christian and shameless. I don't know something like the most brilliant idea you've ever heard but not that and then he would leave the room and then we were just look at each other and be like why are we here yeah because it's like a he just picked something. I want to as a fan. I WanNa Watch watch that yeah but then as a writer you're sitting there. You're like why did you have to this haven't all that glitters and I will be out eating somewhere right and she'll be like I'm GONNA can't stand that sound that keeps happening and then I'm like you couldn't have just not said anything because now that's all I can hear right the. I'm that type of guy or I'm like once. It's pointed out to me. Were not putting the toothpaste back in the two right. I'm like I'm like I can't think of any ideas for Christian and shame that don't involve what he just fucking. We sat right and everything that I come up with or anything. Anyone else at the table is GonNa say is just shit. So why wouldn't you want don't like he would. I don't know it was it was ultimately it was we need options for Vince because it's because the old man is so volatile so that could be an option but he's saying I already have this so. Let's do something besides that but beyond that beyond that ah that literally he wasn't coming in the room being like okay. Here's what I got. I want more options. He would literally come up with that in the moment and then you're like you you just came up with that on the fly like he was so good at that job but also to say something like this but not that right right and it's just like stop do like what do you want to get for lunch like something like pizza but not Pizza Inn now known as the pizza and I'm thinking about all the different kinds of pizza. I could be using fucked yeah so to answer your question. I don't know what I'm going to get a yard house. What do you think they pitched Austin man? It's going to come in just had the beer bash you just add riot-wracked signing right. It's so funny I ran into somebody this morning. There were like you know. They know him a wrestling fan and he's like Oh man. Did you see Austin come back and I was like literally Dick. I go which time what if what if what if hear me out the top of our two they tease it the whole first hour uh-huh. We're finally going to see Austin Hogan Russell as much as a shit show is that Mississippi was I left being like like I WanNa Watch flaring Hogan well that makes you. I was like Oh Jesus you WanNa see them hit each other with their walkers all this go back to the footage from that Austrailia tour they went on right after the first thing I thought of that picture of the two of them just showered and blood fucking the land down under Oh my God he she she she vegemite on a pole match then my baby match that shit nope it's garbage. Oh Yeah Oh you don't say it looked. It looks like everything said to me. This is great. I can't wait Oh what it was in your hands. Somebody handed you the vegemite on like fucking piece of toast and you're like no then for me. Thanks I'll pass us. No then sound like my thing but well you're coward. That's been established. I should probably take this picture of my family out of that frame and just put it in this Kevin von Erich right there. I mean no one could fault you there. Here's what do make video this right now so just so people know that I'm committed to this thing no you are you are not going to do this. You are not going to replace a Oh. I thought you were taking back off that frame for a second arnold. My family loves me. I was GONNA call out for your wife to get in here and then and then the candlestick then we would see the candlestick hosted. What's rack like this? This is Kevin. I Picture Kevin Gorgeous Hair. He's got everything going form yeah whoa what's going on with the banks right before he moved to Hawaii. I don't know this visa. I don't know about this can put a ball on my head and just cut Arno Cook my my own here tonight. I know it's it's a salad bowl from that pizza place. We used to advertise for their for dad. That was like Mike's Oh oh go rounding achieve. He's the fucking hate those those belts that like had the metal front with the sliding knob. Oh terrible with the little teeth you'd you'd like pull the the top and the bottom to like make the belt stop moving. Oh at the two loops now it's like cloth about with the little metal piece on the end and then and then the buckle was like a square can like matchbox car. Yes you slip through and there was too little buttons on the top of the bounding slid like hold the belt and place impossible shit dog shit yeah secondly are the ones that were like the suspenders where it was like the two little like loops that you put one inside of the ride ride Jackie. I one of those it's I'm good at it now but tracks back scratcher well in. I we do me and Jack do a bit with that. It's it's it's just this. It's a halloween toy from last year from whatever Hilton just a skeleton hand with the little arm and we will do a bit with it where he goes he goes shake my hand and I just start shaking the skeleton handle. I pretend everything's cool and then I looked out real war. What's crack? SLUMAN man classic cracks him up big time got bits. He likes to do this kid. You got to have a few bits in the bag man otherwise he ended up being Sammy Guevara. We wish take the fucking panda hat or whatever should he wears. You know what it was it. What did ban was first time I ever oversaw? PWG He did his match and I was like all right this kid's okay you know. He seems like he's a little full of himself but like that's new for prowrestler. It's a put on you. GotTa have it a little bit during the intermission when he was signing autographs and taking pictures he was just wearing his speedo and he had his cell phone just jammed in the front of his fucking tights and I just walked by that and I go oh fuck this guy I like also would wear a belt around those trump could've just clicked onto the belt like a normal person. You know you know like you were on how we wear our cell phones. I hate that a nice braided belt belt. You know there's no hole hanging down any size you want one-size-fits-all and I sprayed about just if you just need a couple Alexa inches of choice well. I wore one fifteen years ago when somebody's like braided belt and I was like fuck now I'm doing it can't win sometimes. Can I just wear my Tebas with socks. Oh can't do that can i. Oh ooh can't wear my braided. Bill can't wear my university hat can't go to my Dave Matthews concert. You know I mean it's it's GonNa be a big night on the nineteenth. You know we got we got the wedding but then sperber fight. You've got the breakout breakout star the G. One versus Jake Atlas who's the breakout star the G. One fucking fucking lance archer that's right. I keep wanting to say motorhead. I was fucking motor heads. You know Lamey I mean that you got Tyler abatement versus. 'em I'm dogged Matt Cross and you've seen that straight edge superstar in a little while when I did see him gallivanting around Europe with judge wait so it's is it a g C W suburban fight nope straight suburban fight lanes archers suburban fight yet at the hi hat. That's why we got to be there. That's why the e there so who's on Bateman and Cross Lanson and Jake Atlas okay. There's like one of those scrambles scramble grandma. You know you gotta get a nice little instead like a ham potato napper. Tuna tuna is on to wrestling love tuna it's going to be a hell of night. You like a nice standalone suburban fight. You don't have to wait till one in the morning. We go your fresh. Those shows at the hi hat or are the best shows it's going to be if you don't got a ticket and get a ticket and you go. There's gotTA wedding. You still go. We we can get Tom and rights to the like bump up the start time of their wedding. Although you say come with us. I don't think that's going to happen but now I think it's GonNa be fine like think about the last night they weddings you into your own like you don't you don't hang out to the crack you you hang out for a little bit. We're out of there by seven thirty at the latest latest Philip last wedding I went to the fucking driving a fucking rainstorm up to some God forsaken Fuckin- let's on you showing up. I'm just glad they're WANNA wrestling show that no kidding yeah man Vince yes who who before I ask you okay okay who wins in the ratings tonight Awa or annex t they think because I remember that super bowl halftime heat right yeah but they did and you could watch basically PWG WG match on annex t right yeah ricochet in coal and whoever and I watched it on twitter because I was curious because on twitter you can have the chat going by. It's always people being like fuck this fuck this fucking stop bright my favorite thing anytime you want something live on twitter most of the comments going by our please stop writing comments on the chat. I can't see the video yeah dumb ass you. Commute the fucking conversation you know it's always my everything everything but most of the comments going by were w socks and I remember telling you that at the time and and you were like aws a t shirt company. There's no but also why would you wh- right why is it. Why does it have to be one or the other? What does it have to do with anything right and also furthermore? If you like what's on annex t you will probably like what on e w w because it's all the same guys from the indie scene and mostly people that we've seen a PWG over the last five years where yeah where do the battle lines come. I'm from. I just don't know 'cause there isn't it's not like the Nacho man is on raw routing you. That old guy like no one has said Shit. Really you know save for well. Yeah Kenny said some Shit. Can you like anything that said even in that environment does it have have an effect on the amount of people who are actually going to tune in right like triple h pretending like well. There's nobody on my roster without I would trade for on their roster and it's like okay okay sure I know that that's utter bullshit but also it's not GonNa make me I'm. I'm like well. We'll triple. H says he likes exceed better than eighty W I'm going to be watching. AWS previously discussed. Please join us for that but I think annexed. He's going to beat him. I don't know well. I don't know either. I'm but you asked me and so I mean what are we gonNA fight out. I I know but you're like well. I don't know and it's like well. I don't either but I but I decided that that was my answer. You know okay so you say annex t I think annexed he's GonNa just just for the sake of argument I will say e w okay at next week. One of us will be wrong and one of us will be me but it will only only be for the sake of the conversation will only on the stream. We'll watch eighty. W but do you WANNA watch annex t together. We'll we'll be together other yeah. I mean probably Oh. I don't like the way that you said I you know I got. I got a check on my manager but my favorite wrestler to your question question who's your favorite wrestler Vince Caesar. Oh what CICI's role last night on granted what was it's so strange range when what's the what's the name of the girl backstage. Was that Charlie yes I don't know which is which and by which is which which I mean the names of any of the backstage interview pk she I believe she was talking about the the Ramos Stereo Brock lessening thing right yes and then says ro oh right that was awesome interrupt helps oh brought fuck got them both of them it was it was amazing yeah dominic to take taken that storm wrestling academy the heart it was so strange wearing like three hundred dollars shirt dominic stone John Islands sweatshirt on that thing had it's gotta be three hundred bucks shoot shoot well what a waste of time and money can send me that yeah she talking about how Paul Heyman and brock listener have asked for time to talk about what happened and it's like and then says ro interrupts and then ricochet interrupts so I'm sitting there and I'm thinking why did Paul Heyman and Broccoli and ask for time to talk. Why didn't they just interrupt? Let her take time. It's so funny why why is it nine times out of ten you do it and the right time you have to request right yeah but what was just my tv what the fuck was on scenarios hand. Did you notice that looked like he'd been eating cheetos. I assume it was his tanner probably but I'm was more noticing the pants because I was like are those his like that street clothes when he came on. I think well remember that age. You know after Aberdeen Drinks. Whatever was he was like that's the way he dresses years? He's very your piece very European yeah. I didn't notice him but I'm GonNa Guess based on what you're saying. It was it was probably tanner. I haven't Sara del Rey still together. I don't know I was. I don't know why in all the things in the world world like when I found out that they were an item all those years ago I was like that makes me so happy no idea why yeah I don't know who's your favorite wrestler Matt Phil Sova. They'll silva hear hear me out have you. I I haven't been Giddy Giddy to talk to you about this okay. There's NO E. On the hidden gems guy finally easy to find hidden gems on the network yes okay. This is one of the latest things that they put up which and I gotta give him give it up to them for this they finally when you go only hidden gems. Everything isn't sorted by year and you've got to sift through yeah. There is a section at least up top that says recently added Okay K which is I've been begging for this up begging for mouse. There's a thing called karate wrestling nineteen fifty four. Oh you gotTa Watch this I will I could it's eighteen minutes long. I could not stop laughing the whole sometime karate wrestling karate wrestling. It's from Dallas. It's in it's in the within the SPO Torian. They might have been okay. Ah I don't know if he said reunion arena or if he said sport a terrarium K. but obviously nineteen fifty four it's pre- Fritz and all that it's this Guy Phil Silva. He's the karate expert K. He's the crotty wrestler and he fights four guys at once aw okay. I'm going straight home. Is it I could. I couldn't stop laughing it did have you ever seen the movie ghost dog with four swagger autograph. Yes he's got moves like goes star. He's just like he's doing these like he kicks like Van Morrison. In the fucking last waltz boy he can barely get his foot up and then it's just like these like he just all he does is he just kinda kicks the guy and then he karate gorge cassidy. It's like playing with kids right it. Yes yes he's got moves like Orange Cassidy where he's just like karate chop credited Chop Chop Chop Chop Chop and he's fucking gassed before the thing he's doing doing nothing and he's just huffing and puffing poor and sweat. I fucking took notes. What else did I wanNA? Write down. He finds four fucking guys at once Phil L. Sell the and he's just beating the shit out of him with his with his fucking. I mean thank God I wrote this down. At one point he puts it's one of the guys in a headlock and he starts TUSLA's hair. He's not even doing he's just like messing up his hair and I'm getting a good nookie the guy just back suplexes and and he's like Oh that's the only office that gets in on them fucking four guys at once and they keep talking like how are we going to get them then they charge them any crowded chaperoning shop kick Karate Chop Karate Shannon and then the whole thing ends in this like Insane Schmidt is where like other wrestlers and street clothes are going in there and then he's just like karate chopping them but I mean he is fucking exhausted. Before the thing even starts it's incredible and also it's like he's not he doesn't appear to be of Asian descent. He just like fell so he just seems like he just looks like some fucking Italian guy or whatever Oh dude that sounds awesome made all the more because at first I'm like are they think Phil Silvers like the comedian like what is happening. Jonathan Winters intersts I mean it is such dog shit and then the fucking the they finally got him down all the wrestlers wearing street clothes and then there's three of them one on each foot and then there's one in the middle like pushing the like they're trying to break legs off because the sooner we could stop these karate karate kicks and he's like karate champ shot a kick Rowdy Chung. You GotTa Watch it. That fucking sounds all my God dude. It's fucking dog shit. It's amazing Fuckin- I'm ready. I'm going to do what you talked shift to me. I'm GONNA do it. tonight. Is the night Wednesday night. Wars have begun. Yes watch eighty. W with US US yes. We're GONNA find you online at Vince April on twitter of in Saudi Royal Instagram also the cross control seven inches now up for preorder limited vinyl and shirts new age records dot net whoa kids zero paramount McCarthy encouraging you to who follow me on all forms of social media at McCarthy redhead or wish me luck this Friday. 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WeWatchWrestling Issue #312

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WeWatchWrestling Issue #312

"This is a head gum podcast <music>. You want you wrestling breeding friends. Well hello there. Welcome the we watch wrestling podcast. I am wonderful. Red headed hosts beyond the matt mccarthy and with me the professional wrestling encyclopedia with pedia mr vince april yeah man right at the top. I have to acknowledge that on saturday at our live show in los angeles list jeff track called dude. He said el fantasma was gonna win. Is that what he said. Shades of notre thomas the amazing incursion that octopus they have picked the final four. I have no problems put here somewhere. Got me predictions about this weekend in in chicago. Let's see the same thing about a live show. That's going to happen at midnight on the thirtieth after a._w._s. Friday whoa at the beat kitchen. You must be talking about the we watch. Watch wrestling podcast come on chicago. Come hang out man with a great time on saturday. Thank everybody coming out. The audio will be going up very soon but in the meantime hang out at the kitchen on friday night be bathed in milord. I'm sure the laura for sure. Are we gonna have a special guest. That's right martin prosise coming through marty from the mardian sarah and from the world of stand ended up and pro wrestling as well from the world all the world's from what the world is world a man mardi dresses coming by that it should be a fucking tremendous time so you're not gonna wanna miss that when we reunite lived out here for a minute remember those days i do. There's no there's. I think there's only one hundred seventy trivia questions. He's broke straight through. Can you guys hear the fucking trivia just real straight through. I'll go to page three sixteen talking about those. The predictions were drew bag and broad and could be applicable to any situation matty h three sixteen. What is the title of this book. This is the man who saw tomorrow the prophecies of nostradamus poster. 'damas looks like the old days of our lives yeah history's greatest psychic except instead of sand. There's <hes> history history story just like history in the hourglass. The hearts of the lover awakened by furtive love to a i will ravage the lady in the stream who will pretend to bash family to be half injured. The father of each will deprive the body of its soul. That's clearly about raw the heart of the lover so that's seth rollins <hes> awakened by firt. I i love vertical debit fergal devitt. That's your fund balance. That's been balanced old name so we're talking about him. Love will ravage the lady e in the stream lady in the street lady dream lady in the stream sasha banks. She has blue hair now like like water. Yes yes so seth rollins allen's and finn baylor gay so been baylor and sasha banks because this from monday this is this is the date. This is page three sixteenths of kylie. This is about wrestler all right she will pretend basha wli behalf injured gold brick and <hes> <hes> <hes> the father of each will deprive the body of it soul so that's vince vince is the granddaddy of them all yeah he's the father and he will. I will deprive the body of its sole <hes> soul that's code for black on the legends of wrestling. He's a grave digger that guy the fucking <hes> <hes> remember that one the the legends roundtable yes. That was the name of that episode were they talked about african. American wrestlers called soul really one hundred percent. What about that. Oh one hundred percent. I say that like i should be shocked and now come on dude. Soul urban solman rocky johnson right akeem the african dream. You know these sorts of things these things. Were you going through your kabq. Ties file neckties over here in the arena. I know i brought that to a shoot. They were like well. I need to worry about you or are you just looking for something to wear now. I brought those the the the. I almost never net rarely to never do <hes> videos a college humor anymore anymore. Everybody that i ever knew moved on moved on but <hes> once in a while they'll call me in to basically reprise the nick cage gauge agent k yeah and so this time i was. What's her name scarlett johansson agent. That story checks out next time. We're switching velcro grow shoes. Those those ties were worn. Those are those a ring worn ties. Oh man get it to ebay yarbrough. Brow dude who'd over on ebay mattie what what what did i do. The j cups the finals and we were their results are in. We were there. We we were shocked. Some were saddened others. Were just angry. Oh my god that fine doofus like three rows behind us poor danny victor they. You're right next to him. Danny is trying kilo man because otherwise he would. He should've put those ronald at fox yet those big rings on his fingers. He should should've made that margate him that. I needed to shut the fuck. Oh my god he fucking hated will osprey. He was such a fuck and like contrarian contrarian like i'm just gonna boo every everybody that you like. The crowd likes right so like he hated naito. It's like really yeah he also so he's like. He was negating everything he said. One by by saying that we'll osprey was overrated which is like fucking ridiculous preposterous and then when he he was upset at how long it took night oh to get his fucking <hes> suit off him and bucci. We're like taken forever take o- takes forever to our qatar clothes off and i couldn't help myself i go. That's the point you dumb. Fuck man wishing him. Well yeah may he finds the fuck and happiness that he so desperately seeks. May you got all the attention you want and more. I think despite it all that that eight-man might have been my favorite match of the night eight man with the taguchi and lighter a <hes> let us think it was <hes> gucci lighter rocky show yo and and robbie abby eagles and then you had lighter taguchi <hes> t. j. p. t. j. p. and <hes> lagged lagged gucci t. j. p. and who the fuck coutts fucking <hes>. I'm over here. I forget. I always forget where my phone is. How long has this been running for at kits. It hasn't been ten minutes. Lou nine showdown rain nine five the beta and you can watch it. All you can see what's happening thing in real time. This is us of course and depending on when we record this. You may even see this day before. The show comes out a men sister who was the eighth. If man who was the man on the grassy knoll that day hogan dude. I'll look it up and look it up but i i matched you those superfund. I mean not to say it was like head and shoulders above anything else that happened but i just i really enjoyed that match. It was very fun. They did a lot of fun stuff which made fun so you had fun yeah. Yeah i liked it. I liked it a lot. I mean i don't know sounds like ramped agree to disagree on this one well. No i know i said i liked it. <hes> i don't know when <hes> could that possibly the last time we'll see jewish laggy live and in person well it depends on if you want to spend your birthday in san jose on that's true. I feel like you'll probably be in san jose on november ninth for matty's birthday bash nor nor cal edition. I'll have to discuss that with family. That's right. It's my fortieth birthday. What a gift though true in a new japan show yeah but i i mean it's almost it's almost hilarious risk <hes> to to to say it but it's like my my gut is like i go to so many amazing wrestling shows all the time. It's like it's almost not special. Yes yes yes but what if we take a cake today meltzer's house after now now you're taking ice cream at dave's now. You're making a lot of sense now all of a sudden. We're talking something special. Maybe jack and glenis are waiting <hes> and as soon as the shows are we today's house for cake and ice cream with everybody. I mean main g think when's the last time you think dave meltzer ate a piece of cake. He seems like a cheap day guy. You know you think it has a birthday or or something. He's gonna take a little piece. Maybe you know he so strict the rest of the time. I know he's got bad. It's so funny. I forgot who who disrobed robed at <hes> honey. We're we're almost out of chicken breasts with silver jakup and i thought to myself. I wonder if dave still has better than this guy no. That's why you know there's a school of thought that says we should probably go to his cuny amazing red. I'll talk shit man yeah. Ah when's the last time you saw him at some point <hes> prior to two thousand and thirteen so probably a couple years earlier than that i would guess somewhere on the east coast but yeah you know dave's having his own cuny separate from star cast got to pay a couple extra the bucks to get in there but it would give us a little more face time with the guy who already doesn't trust us through artists and trust us. I get the vibe like he thinks this whole thing. The way it was presented him with the last are cast. He's i mean who knows it's hard to read that guy but you seemed like i feel like you're bringing a lotta that yeah you think that he was like full on into it. No no no but. I don't think that we're crazy. I don't think he thinks we're crazy. Okay but i also don't. I don't think he thought about it again. Admiral you think we should get in front of them if we can probably in that forum price. I just don't they've. They've got quite at a price point on his show. Why how much we try to make it affordable for everyone. <hes> dave's i feel like i feel like to make it affordable for ourselves to and we're not gonna. We're try to be able to get to town and back without right hemorrhaging but point being i think dave's like his general admission is like around forty bucks and then if you you wanna kiss the ring or whatever it's closer to sixty really up. That's i'm pretty sure yeah even had a package where you got a ticket to all out you know cosima conrad or probably rumors in innuendo conrad kenya. Can you hit reply on an email who cares man. We're doing our thing. They know it's fine. We're going to have it all the best of both worlds <hes> yemen uh the osprey out in the semis the the second match of the night he was a cannery chicanery course yes <hes> if i'm sure the person is out there who's like giving spoilers for the supercharge competence. You're gonna wait a month to watch it. Do do what you want. I mean do what do what makes you hats on. El fantasma oh from a personal level matt. What do i think of him as a person. He seems like a real peace schimdt. <hes> shrewd shut that off. Yeah we shut it off. Oh wow ah we gave a lot this week then we we give them a lot every week. Vince bam fantasma seems like a fucking douche man he seems like a real douche man man but also not unlike. I not super into him at this point not like that wasn't helping me. You know oh you you don't enjoy it. No i just mean like whatever hiti was garnering. I wasn't like drawn in in the in the in the right way. I'm not going to say i want him to go away like it wasn't that bad but so you're saying you want him to suffer a career and mattie. Now don't put words in my mouth now <hes> but somebody like jay white. He's probably the most effective he'll in the busy now that because there's just i don't know if it's the charisma <hes> whatever the elements our guys just like doing it for me. I feel like i have people. I i mean who who can tell well. I mean it's i. I can't get a i well. Here's the thing is like. I was gonna ask people come around on. Have people come around on jay white because because it felt like some people were <hes> oh like not not sure why he was being pushed to the moon right whereas i get at even but but as i started asking the question even just as i started thinking of the question i'm like well i have no. I have no way of gauging this because i can't go off of twitter right because it's just people were just angry. People who just want on a ship the the guy three rows behind us who are. How much money did he pay to show up to take shit on. Everything yeah like you showed up to take shit on it right. It's like the the people you're like. What where's the fun. Being derived here are you. Did you come here out of spite brother. I tell you it's it's heartbreaking breaking. It's heartbreaking back him. It's heartbreaking faulk hand. It's heartbreaking because of this this this all i'm a troll all your life right in real life like like these people who are like oh. I'm working. He'll it's like no. You're not a wrestler. You're not working here. You're not making talking any money like oh. You're so like the idea of oh. I'm so clever the i've made these people got upset. That's the reaction i wanted. It's like yeah because you're you're a dick like what what is there's no art to that. There's no it's not a work because there's no money rights you have. You're not working. You're just like wow right you. You acted like an asshole and people didn't like it. What's the fucking could go to go to the avengers movie dresses magneto nato than what are we talking about right. I mean it's like you but here's the thing is that we were at a <hes> playgrounds yesterday. Just yesterday and glenn is pointed out this little boy who was just sitting on the bottom of the slide and not letting any other kid slide on the slide and that was heartbreaking. That was heartbreak yeah. That's that's a child right well. This is what breaks my heart now. We've got a thirty year olds doing the same thing. It's like brother yeah. You can't say you can't save them all but i mean it is. It's it's i if your parents leave you out in the rain when you're a kid shame shame on your parents if you're still standing in the rain as a grownup shame on you yeah. It's so i guess in that respect is it. What's heartbreaking adding to me is that this fuck is. He's probably got a fucking a ham and egger job. He's wasting fucking money sitting behind poor four danny victor ruining their good time he might just be a prick. <hes> some people are just assholes that is also true dragon. Lee comes to the finals which then someone also oh. I don't know if it's emerson. We also had to point out the dragon. Lee almost killed her own was him awesome. It was him but <hes> people are enjoying the match goes. People i clicked forgot here. Almost carol curl geraldo and it's like oh you're such bullshit. If her own da she was in the fucking you tell me this guy wouldn't be booing him to go to stupid kat back. I'm a dog person. So what did you think of the match the final. I thought it was excellent i did. I thought it was very good <hes>. I don't know i'd like to see maybe we'll get the chance eventually to see how el fantasma chopped his head open on a on a foot stomp. You stopped him out of the ring he he came off the top onto a table. That's right. His man was was up with like a just a gash. He jumped out of the ring and did a double foot stomp onto a prone opponent on the floor on the table yeah and then i mean there's no so now you've you. There's nowhere where to land. There's no way to stop that momentum right but when you think about you know there's there's chairs. There's some concrete just like how you end yup lacerating your head in that fashion because it's not he did not cut himself. No that was that was amazing because that would also be like uncomfortable. Stop someone and then you come up bleeding the headline there was there was the one guy in front of us who turns around and he's like. Is that for real. Was that a shoot well and you you you. It was great you go well it would it doesn't doesn't make sense otherwise why would he just like yeah strange but <hes> i forget there was some we were. I was waiting in line. We're waiting in line vir- p._w._g. Years ago <hes> in reseda and we just got to like laughing. I don't even remember the context. There was no context but it was just like. Why are you naked wouldn't it. Are you nate. When wouldn't it be hilarious if we were just standing in line and we just started like blading ourselves like does is cutting your head open for no reason jesus h but the blood did kick it up an arch. It kicked it up a notch. What worried me was. He was being such a piece of shit. He'll that. I was almost like oh man now. He's bleeding yeah. Is this going to shift the audience's sympathy towards him or at least that bullshit shit thing of you not that it's bullshit but like it's not as effective of that thing of like yeah. He's a bad guy but i'm i'm going to applaud him. I'm for working so hard right which in certain cases works in other cases like like sasha banks coming out on monday. Happy sasha's back <hes>. They're not gonna boo her necessarily but there was that one shot and it's like this is on the company like this is this is how dumb they are. <hes> they cut to a family and the mom is holding the little girl and his point like look there she is there sasha banks and it's like what what what is what do you want. What do you want by showing us that right well. I think it seems like they're trying to do this. It's the cake and eat it too right but they're like they're trying to do this work. Shoot thing where they even like sent out the sort sort of a press release of what was going to happen at least to some <hes> outlets and <hes> and so it's this thing of like well she just she's a saying why she laughed so maybe maybe she has good reason but then also she did take her ball and go home. I don't know it's so so funny because we are at a time as the wrestling audience where we really we really are where vince mcmahon been told us. We were twenty plus years ago. I feel very passe. The idea of good guys versus bad guys is definitely evidently passe so it's like you send out a sasha banks and it's like oh like if the crowd is going to boost someone let them bootham bright you know but this idea of i'm gonna force it and and have <hes> a imaginary beef with the crowd yeah so but it try to force you to like if if when that comes out like my my instinct is a fan just based on who i like and who i don't like it's not that i don't like natty but i'm like. I'm going to cheer session brunetti well. It's also you know why why not just have your story line reason for why she was gone right especially if you want her to be a he'll rather than try to do this like both ways thing thing where it's like you know fuck you guys but also here are some reasons why laughed and and maybe some of those may resonate with you whether they're supposed to or not right yeah yeah. I mean i did like her. You know last week or second second. They showed up top and she's like the the the pre-tape where she's like. I looked at myself in the mirror and i just said blue. Who is your color like like that. I like <hes>. I don't know man. I just look at j. white and it's like you. You can get people like you can be a he'll not be a cool. He'll like <hes> like a night. Oh where it's like yeah he's he's. He's a he'll but i like him a lot. Yeah and you can also have it. Be a heel and not like a like. I don't know would you say fantasma. Fantasma falls into the realm of like i'm doing because i actually don't like him for me or like a like a sammy guevara yeah like i'm like no. I actually just don't want to see you yeah. Yeah yeah yeah whereas jay white. It's like i love him but i could not you wanna see him. Get his fucking but i wanna see him. Get his ass kick and there you go you know <hes> i dunno like since i promise samaniego veira like we they did him versus walter in reseda. I wanna say yes. That was such a weird match because again it was like the blood and phantasmal komo thing where it was like you know. It's a mismatch. <hes> which is odd for walters was basically the baby ace <music>. Sammy's the fucking heal and then walters thing is that he chops the shit out of the guy to the point where it was like my sympathies are starting learned to go with corvera. Which is i thought was impossible which i thought was impossible but it but it in doing so it didn't make me not it didn't make we cheer for sammy. It just made me uncomfortable because i was like now. There's nothing for me to do as an audience member with this match yeah and if there was like like to the point where it was like i'm beyond sympathetic for sammy. I'm like i'm just uncomfortable watching someone be hurt right and that's not why i go to pro wrestling right yeah. I don't know <hes> but overall i. I thought that the j. cup final show was was fine. It was a good show yeah <hes> not a blow away show but but no i would have i would have dug <hes> seeing <hes> dr- well. Maybe we'll see down the line but like dragon liam. We'll all spray yeah. I certainly i wanna see that. We'll osprey amazing red from night. One apparently <hes> killer killer match <hes> also interesting to me. He is at the end when alpha el fantasma is cutting that promo on lighter. Oh yeah yeah him. I was just like this was w._w._e. Because he's a legend he would have come in and made the guy who just won the tournament. Look like an asshole probably but yeah oh of course but i wonder if if we're gonna see el fantasma o- on one of those dome shows against blogger for for a sendoff i mean something that they didn't do that for nothing you know but there are. I mean king of pro. Wrestling thing i think is still happening. There are other shows yeah. Maybe we'll see at some point. Maybe we'll see that in san jose but you gotta have it feels like have they done lighter and suzuki because it feels like that's the that's the match. They've been teasing all year okara. I don't think so not yet 'cause that. I mean because you think delve in terms of ligers final match right. You know what do they do. I don't know it reminds me of <hes>. I mean that poor ric flair that god awful on the last nitro him and sting oh yeah where he wrestled in the t shirt like a fat get in the pool <hes> um hum fucking awful but the spiked hair yeah well he. He hadn't been working at all now <hes> well that was he was at the the lowest point of his life. Yeah well who's to say but <hes> yes. He definitely was not in ring shaped that evening but he was called to <hes> to listen. Listen to him on stone-cold show i haven't you got to i know i have to. I really struggle with those audio issues. Sometimes you know when it's <hes> what because he's on the phone yeah sometimes the going to hear him fine but i mean it's it's it's not <hes> i don't know like like i was i was i gave it about three seconds meltzer interviewing jerry jarrett and then when i heard jerry jarrett's phone connection i was like i don't give a shit out into fucking this. This can't be interesting enough to because. I'm just like well you know well. The thing that kills me is the when you like when one person's really loud and one person isn't all oh that's brutal that's hard that's brutal but they used to be every week with alvarez amounts earth so how's it going everybody and everybody <hes> uh-huh yeah and then we go from the jakup to another tournament thursday and friday a w man. It's it's the the late summer it's tournament season base season. We just finished g one. We just had the j. cup. The king of the ring is cooking a dub cook and baby a dub. Let's get awa card up here vamp. You know it's funny. I was walking up to a building. They had a <hes> a defense. This is one of the words as soon as i start thinking about distributor. That's not right right. I think it fib you later brule. I there is an honor. Their distributor is february. Well see now. You're gonna i know defray later to doing. Hey siri. How do you say defer later okay. I found this on the web. For how do you saint different with you later. Check it out. Check it out <hes> <hes>. How do you say different with you later. Chicken was the what was the opening thing of scottie to haughty song wasn't a check it out or like or too cool. Oh yeah turn it up. That's what it was. Turn it up yeah well at any rate. They had the little stick around the window of the door to let you know that they had one in there and it was a._d._d. Is the whatever you know. The is is is the company or the brand or the whatever no. You're thinking of a eat dub bob well. This is what i'm saying to myself. I'm walking up and i'm like this is what some of these dopes are going to be chanting this weekend. You got to eighty w ahe ee dub dub jim lyman memorial tournament night one on thursday okay league. What's that who's he jim. Lyman <hes> is a guy that we should definitely know and i'm gonna look it up before. I look up that because i know that <hes> i don't have a great <hes> mm retention. You don't have a great grasp of reality or important dates or facts real fucking encyclopedia over. I really got my head off guard. Are you loves cbs. Chunnel harshly says it on his towel kind of dry off with this tower are tiny. This is the kind of tall harley race us to wipe happy. Humphries is <hes> so it looks like jim lyman used to you had a hand in running eight. W so that's cool. We got a memorial tournament. That's right. We got jake atlas versus fatou in an opening-round match fatoum and going places no shit m._j. Efforts is co cabana. I believe we saw that the last time we were there. Will they definitely had a face off or something. Yeah the fozzard a father and son thing laredo kid vs austin training gal versus myron reed jimmy jacobs versus eddie kingston new ooh fuck at one could get greasy. Oh boy stop breaking our chairs. Jake something versus josh alexander. His name is jake. Something believe so josh alexander. He's the guy who used to be in that tag with <hes> oh yeah with with <hes> reynolds no john nano no no no silver guy <hes> the guy who who showed his ass to the four horsemen. Oh even page page i bryant right kurt stallion versus ursus joey lynch ace romero versus willie mac and in non tournament action the awa champion sammy callahan dan as well as the awa tag team champions l._a._x. Penta l. o. m. and ray phoenix soon. It's gonna be a hot night. In the logan square auditorium come on thursday and then we'll go to friday and then we'll fucking. Do those are all on thursday or some of those tournament matches friday too. I thought that that was saying that those were first first round matches featuring first round the first round of the memorial tournament and then the then it lists those matt. That's a lotta fucking matches right. That's a lot of matches and we're that's eight matches without the other shit so maybe if the rest of these guys are in one match. You got nine matches. I don't know man we'll well. We'll have to wait and see. That's a lot of beef in that ring. We are strangers in a strange land. You know how our our seats we are on the front row of the stage again on night one eleven and then we're just in the regular front row in to what next to the ring <hes> sorry like if yet oh god kozara partition between the ring and may i like that logan square auditorium i do too. It's a tight little room. Hopefully <hes> kellyanne and the boys keep their shit together so no one has to get in trouble again. Yeah right get pulled. What a fucking debacle but i know eddie kingston will take care of it and we're sharing in a bedroom again. We're sharing. I realized we're not fuck off just text away. I looked again at the thing and and we're in separate hotel rooms up. Sorry this is the way it worked <music> out. We might as well being separate hotels. Imagine marlee brought me here. Are we at least like the room's next to each other. Can we open the door. That'll be a check back in may be checking. You ever get to do that yeah. I mean it's going along. I don't know why that's the coolest thing in the world to me. Yeah that'd be hot. Holy holy shit dude matt you still up. Did you see flight the denzel washington on oh aw yeah. I heard it's good though i'll watch that yeah oh man that's good. That's a good movie. I did watch beach bum. I started it. I didn't finish it. What <hes> i mean. If you like mcconnell hey did i. I was laughing hard. The whole time i just i watched the beginning i got to the point where he goes back and then he's just you know <hes> <hes> he's hanging out with the missus. Yeah yeah yeah yeah pretty fucking. <hes> have you so you haven't gotten a martin lawrence yet. No i haven't gotten anywhere i <hes> turn it off to go to bed but it was like i turn it off right when snoop dogg was basically practicing <hes> the wedding or what how ars laurie snoop dogg. What does that have to do with the bachelor i mean i know that he's such patches dammit. Have you <hes> uh i tell you. This is the this the other thing with when she was cutting her promo and she's like you know i didn't talk to anybody and then all i heard was sasha banks. Sasha banks sasha banks. It's to the point where i was like. It's like the the word made no sense you you ever do that. You're yeah i know we were just like sasha banks such an like. It sounds so strange to the guard golden. God god such banks yeah. What was i gonna say such a. I am excited for smackdown that <hes> daniel bryan and rohan are expecting a an apology from roman reigns all right well yeah. We're we ever going to get any answers recording this on tuesday kids or do you believe that the man that they brought last week as the actual perpetrator. Oh what a follow up. This is going to be. Who is that guy who is alvarez brought up a good point on their show last week because he's like. He's like so what he's like any other t._v. Show when you do a cliffhanger yeah which was already my ears perked up because i was like i love when alvarez makes you know a reference to anything reference anything yeah outside of wrestling unlike what do you think happens on actual t._v. Shows right we go oh but he made an excellent point any other t._v. Show when they end with a cliffhanger the next week show is going to start right where they left off yeah so he's like so so is that what they're gonna do is because that shows live and it happens in real time there so in the last arena so so have they been sitting there for a week staring at the sky again. It is that thing of like 'cause with alvarez and meltzer. It's like it's like with anything like you can't expect w._w._e. Not three w._w._e. And once you start a like if you it is a it is a it is a old sweater and logic is just you you pull that thread the whole whole thing's gonna fall apart. You're done because it's like. Why did they have the towel on the guys had. Why were they just sitting there doing nothing for the fucking. I have to imagine like that when when they're like hey we are detaining. You and we're taking you to wherever next week smackdown right. Maybe you just have to go. Maybe spent the week danielsson's house or something. You know like waiting and i just imagine as somebody that got. It'd be like charge me otherwise i'm out of here. Can we get a ride along with three of those guys in the back with like the fucking bag on his it had anything like a roadside motel and he's like ruin. Keep an eye out here. It would be great if it's just like brian is in the passions passengers c. rohan striving and then you just hear the guy banging on the trunk and they're just having a normal ride along. He's right so you were like you are vegan and then you were vegetarian tyrian. He's like yeah. It's like yeah like algae deferred. Destroy allergy it yeah so you chase down the the home invader the wyatt family. I mean that was like your break. In the business you remember i was in the white family for a week and then you get that voice over from the dude from <hes> pax pax t._v. Scott stafford brian you make a change superstars. Brian and roman decided pullover for brian rowe and pull over real quick back then they have trouble at the gas station. Somebody going to hear the man that they've kidnapped in the took car. It's a scott stamps. Oh i thought it was john travolta miss concert. You'll miss takata going to be calling main event this week tune in to the pay per view channel and you local cable station watched the preview show starring me scott stamford pix eleven news. That's what he's on. That's right his day job. Remember he used to like putting the subtle shout outs to zack ryder every week. Whoa whoa whoa you cheat. Turn up on the on the true story. Long island is eve youtube it. It is mind blowing. That guy still has a job. Maybe maybe the next patriot we should just watched the entire series of chew story. That was a good fucking shy. I remember was good yeah. He serious bro got himself over big-time chow. He got into that that was the height of his career. He got into that angle. That's when i was there he got into that angle with sina and eve yeah healed fucking wheelchair deal up the fucking the <hes> yeah yeah yeah yeah and then that was the ultimate you wanna talk about. I i should go back and listen to meltzer and alvarez around that time time does to to hear their take on it because it was like this is one of those situations where people like to see if they blame the writers. It's like oh. They got twenty eight right minus five stars. They got twenty eight riders in there and this is what they call. It gets like we had a story. We had it all mapped out. It was like it was it was going to be this. I don't remember all the beats of it but it dare say made sense now that that's going to be a problem straight straight straight away and if you go back and watch it's total vince mcmahon for no reason couldn't even understand his logic at the time pulls the trigger on the thing where it's just he just unravel like he fucking had to put a hat on a hat on the hand and the whole thing fell fucking part where the raw just opens up with eve declaring to the bella twins that she's a he'll yeah and that she fooled sina or or writer or somebody was an idiot eh and blah blah blah and then the cameras pans over and seen standing there and he's like okay well. You're a tramp or whatever right and then that was it and it was just like why why why did you fucking do that vince yeah. It's one of these things where it's like. You can't like when when something is simple <hes> vince has to fucking uncomplicate it. You know yeah where it's like. It's like we're trying to tell us stories like no you gotta. Go out there and say she's a he'll. People aren't gonna fucking understand. It wasn't even after that incident but just remember there was like this this exchange whoever it was was like you know god if vince like like somebody trying to explain us it's like vince is a proud or give him something to promote you know because he can't tell a story and subtlety will not work with vince because he doesn't have a lot of respect for his audience no and but then i if something if he felt it was too simple too patronizing he guys there's doctors and lawyers in the crowd yeah so you can't win. Oh you can't fucking win. Of course you can't win but then like it was somebody was like vince had directed the movie jaws. There were like you would have seen that shark within the first. Three seconds of the movies got down. I'm trying to get this shark over yeah. Get my heart for my bottle of whisky rene. Take care of this elbow right now. If i just get my <hes> my orange juicer just gonna jam my elbow into the orange juice or get rid of this. Shed mocks has got an orange juicer rene. I like freshly squeezed orange juice day. I caught something in japan. It's not what you think renar. You got the mercer baby. That's that's bad stuff. That's no good that'll kill your ass. <hes> yeah i mean i imagine they have to get it kinda under control before they can even cut in there well. It's it's. It's one of these things where it's like. It's like that su. It sucked the superbug right where it's like it. Figures out like how we've been getting rid of it and he's like oh look like you can't do that anymore. Right people are dying from fucking staph infections like what the fuck dude. I would <hes> when we were in new york i had i don't know if you remember this royal rumble at my place but i was like i was. I was sort of just sitting there and i and i had stopped accepting opting the pass and i wasn't i was just sorta like and what it turned out was i've been bit by a spider but i was like itching it and i had infected and so during that royal rumble getting chills and i just felt like shit so then i got the next day and went to the doctor zeus boreham yeah and they were like <hes> aw there like it's good you got here now because we're gonna fucking hit you with some hardcore antibiotics but like much longer and it would have probably either become staff and mercer whatever because it like it was just <hes> whatever i said infected it somehow while i mean that place where we're lucky we all didn't have some sort of infections because you know what else like. They say you know mersa. It's like they find it. Most battles like it's it's around. You know it'll it'll fuck with you. If given the opportunity nevertheless i do. I do remember that was like what's up with vince man he's not. He's not puffing given he's just sitting there trying to fuck and keep it together that i don't. I don't remember that aspect but i i do remember you being like oh fuck. I gotta get some shots. Yeah yeah yeah yeah so <hes> so all. I'm saying is me and max have that in common that we were both you know right. No you guys have a lot in common you every once in a while. I'll go over to your place and especially like the new house you do a lot of yard work mark and senior out there and i'm like i see what the weed whacking start moving it towards your forehead. I'm like that's now. Stop stop. You went into a few state. <hes> the old the old moxley oxley. I'm going to the doctor today. I'm getting that fucking the sleep study results. Oh we're going to get to the bottom of this if they fuck incentive. You know waste my time again. Stamp your foam sunny wasting my time <hes> so now we've got pock which it's it's i'm into yeah. I mean there's that's that's too fucking phenomenal wrestlers. It's funny because it is. It's a cold match. You know obviously there was was an issue between kenny and mocks now. We can table that but i mean it's like we're on a day and age where it's like so much especially especially on the indie scene. It's like basically nothing but cold matches. It's like there's no reason for it other than oh. This is going to be awesome. Well you know i mean hangman did get potato from jericho when he was dressed up as <hes> one of the <hes> well. That's a different story. Yeah they call. Those guys creepers the <hes> the the the evil. You know <hes> guys they're. They're like they're creepers right there. Underlings yeah old jericho. He's in fosse shape babies ready to be a broadway <hes> jerko jerko chris jericho marco ladder match with the bucks and the <hes> luce bros lord knows what kinda shits going to happen there madness brother shane mcmahon shane mcmahon style match god sweat sweaty spaghetti shane mcmahon with this purple face sways sweaty spaghetti shane mcmahon n- mhm fucking guy now. Are you following the king of the ring very closely the dark horses. Do you have your favorites <hes> well. I mean king ricochets already his twitter handle right fair enough right. I liked him and drew. You liked him andrew a lot. Oh you know i did see sorrow has been announced for the annex to u._k. Takeover no shot yeah. You know. It's so funny like you know it's funny when they when they paired up <hes> i'll be rude and <hes> dolph ziglar yeah like part of me was because i mean i i can watch it two different ways you know just as a fan but then also somebody with some working knowledge of you know the inside and it is it's like i'm like i'm like all right but i i on the other hand. I was like i hear michael hazed in my head constantly really where my well got to do something with them and it's like it. Will you get to the point of like with like a doll for raham <hes> <hes> ziglar or like a says r._o. Where it's like my initial reaction's always like fucking why why aren't they yeah in the mix. I think says are still though he's capable of being rehabbed. I think ziglar it's just been there's just concluding this last one while i mean that is that's the problem with dolphins because it's like it's become his gimmick now right that he's the guy who's a very talented that they do nothing nothing with right and then every so often they put him in a world champion position and it's like we don't buy it. Why would we buy a- and we were and then when the programs over it's like we were right. Yeah i think says are although he's not. He's not that damaged yet but they <hes> they. You needn't fool around for too much longer with which they're going to but i don't know i mean well since him and shameless have basically split up also would chamber spinal stenosis apparently oh he might be done. Oh wow. I wondered you know what the deal was right okay. He might be like done done because i wouldn't you know if if i know that there was the knock on his his <hes> verbal so like let's sammy b the fucking. Let's reform that united nations of evil or whatever oh man remember that and let let's hit. Nakimora says are all the guys who everyone's like. Why aren't they yeah in the mix. Let's let's give them something. Reform reform the <hes> the union and have sammy yours at sammy b b the mouthpiece. Now what was that. It was like league. The union was was up. Yours like the union of people you oughta respects on something like that <hes> because you know <hes> the bulgarian brute route what's up with that guy i didn't. I don't even think he's still with the company is really no. He must be but i mean like talk about you know if he wasn't right until until he shows up at all out reuss sev- i feel like he he got sent home or something. I don't know maybe he was. I don't know where the fuck is. Where's the why we got it. We got to go to dave show whereas randy. Where's russa i. I don't know i mean he's. He's a funny is very entertaining attaining be one of those ones where he he he basically intimates that he knows he can't tell right. I i've said too much. It's gonna come out like is there. Anything more like saying. I've said too much is like why would you say that right. You know you're almost like it's like like the mob movies when the like. Oh won't see him no more so why would you you're speaking in code. That is a bad code. You got code. You have bad code dude dude. Hey hoaxster. Where's there's rousseff. Let me tell you something brother. I never had any love for those russians anyway. Who's the chick though i could definitely draw money with her. Though dude senator over the show did a <hes>. Let me ask you something. Do you own any bathing suits sister. We maybe works about at the beach shop dude you. I'll send jimmy over to pick you up brother sister. I was going on harmony. Corinto cogan just wants. You know you're going to be here for my docker lawyers because clearly beach bums based astound me dude still my gimmick. Moondog moondog moondog spot moondog rex. No doubt i gotta get back into that so is it. It's it's i mean it's a harmony coron movie. Does it get crazy not really really. I mean it's weird. It's <hes> it's is it. It's just kind of him being a beach mom yet but the thing that i really liked was like <hes> why the only way i can talk about it. I'll watch it. We'll talk about later. Did i just keep it. Moving isn't justifying my mother. Cock your sons of god up why listen right way that chicago traffic. I think we're gonna have to go straight from the airport. We're not gonna be able to tell we gotta get right into town so we can get get something to eat and then go to the aid w shopping serious but it will be. We'll be kicked. Leave l._a. Seven a._m. I think we get like two something. What time say w the show three now it's probably but i mean it's gonna remember last year. The traffic getting into chicago were discontinued faulk. It's going to be i'm just happy. It's not wintertime yeah faulk that yeah yeah yeah brawl bro i. What is that place where <hes> it's it's what what what's the beef sandwich place in chicago where like there's the picture of cornet with the cheeseburger and everybody's like he's the only person that would go to that place place. Oh get a cheeseburger. Is it portillo's yeah. I've never been the time chicago has <hes>. They have their italian chiefs. I mean that's why i'm saying like if we let look. We got to review the schedule. What is have you had a sandwich like. Is it like a cheese steak. <hes> it's kind of more in my recollection french dippy but there's <hes> there's some other elements like a roast beef yeah 'cause here's some thing i ah this is. The god's honest truth. I wanna go there yeah because the picture of the cheeseburger. That cornet was holed up. Look so goddamn good. I kind of want that cheeseburger well listen. My triglycerides are up man so i gotta be very careful in the strip. I can't be eaten everything really hot too. I will yeah. I don't <hes> i'm going to do it right. I've definitely been recommended by a number of people by medical professionals to cut back on the salt yeah <hes>. I don't know what a triglycerides though but it sounds bad well you know what we're gonna have plenty of time to do everything we want to do. We we you know the way we travel. It's a beautiful thing amen i mean and so we're going to get any snow moss. We're gonna join our worry. Hopefully the the marketplace star cast is like the last time where there was a few people with magazines kazini of a tribal with different stuff. That's right 'cause the one in vegas was a little light on anything but autographs yeah and the gentlemen with magazines. I clean them out. <hes> like immediately and then chris ross is going to be in the house. Apparently that's right. That's wild the fucking <hes> <hes> the worst was in philly though that son of a bitch. You sold me yeah like those. Were not priced like yeah. They had pictures pictures cut out of them yeah well. What are you gonna do at a feinstein events. You know yeah no kidding anyway. I let me see if i can actually find it vamp for a moment or three. You're going to try to find steen it fucking. I believe i got that that postcard there from violent miracle or yeah have you ever. Have you ever appreciated that or discussed it this thing. I have not not a did you have you. Is this your first time. You've been noticing it no. I i have looked at that for as long as it's been there and i always think about the first time i saw like a videotape tape with with leather face on it and how crazy it's a postcard leather phase. It looked and i don't know what it looks like. He's in the woods and you can kind of make out the sky behind him and some outlines of trees and leaves but he's got i. I don't know what those are supposed to be. If those are spikes or big long nail big long nails he's got them like you know like they recommending there's between his fingers and his fist cocked and he's screaming at the camera and the wind is blowing the hairs balloons face. That should be this week's <hes> yeah actually. I think that's a good call <hes> but maybe he's in that you. There's a like forest and japan japan where they go to kill themselves. He's like oh right. That's what happens. You think like people don't actually commit suicide. There's leather faces running around <hes> if if if anybody is a confused because i know that we got a lot of we get new listeners every single week and we get <hes> cash will will you fa- constantly constantly people are thanking us for our casual. We are how casual we are but for introducing them to things basically outside outside of the world of w._w._e. Let there there was a wrestler he will what was his name corp kirschner. Yes in w._w._f.'s right then he went to japan. Dan and he wrestled as leather face and i do mean as the character from the texas chainsaw massacre yup and and i have a postcard and there's words in japanese on the sides. I don't know what it says. Maybe when we posted someone will be kind enough to translate if that is possible astle but it's wild to me that he doesn't have a chainsaw. He's doing the nails right in this particular votto feinstein. I see this last night and this is not the first time that i have been and i'm not like i'm not a grammar guy. You're not one of those your yours. I always registers but i'm not gonna you know please <hes> he writes. The dave chapelle. Show is the funniest of all time the new special and i was like the fucking you talking about like is he saying that dave chapelle show is the funniest of all time and he has a new special. You know what i'm saying makes no sense. I don't know what he's talking about. <hes> and i'm not trying to give a whole lot of time to alleged pedophiles but i just stuck with me enough last night that i was like i'm going to i'm going to try to remember to to bring this up. The dave chapelle show is the funniest of all time the new special. What are some of the replies. Okay 'cause wrestling fans. Fans are not one to let people slide online so this is. That's why i'm like. Maybe i just didn't understand because someone well you. Just read it to me. I don't understand either well. I think he's trying to put over. Dave dave chapelle for the first. The first comment wears a special at so. I think everyone else was like oh. He has a new special and he thinks he's very funny. Fuck yes ought this morning. Just wash that. He's the best ask touches everything. No one else will touch no fear much like rob feinstein a oh boy no so no one has commented what the fuck is supposed to mean. Maybe it's up to you vince you know how you love confrontation. Yes i've always liked. I'm always seeking a problem. You're just you're dying for killing myself to live as they say man you love that shit any any any g. balls day no of course not no g balls in the near future either according to this website <hes> <hes> <hes>. I watched you see this piece of shit d._v._d. Grandmasters of wrestling volume two oh my god they they needed needed to split this up onto two d._v._d.'s. Are they advertising that. It's one hour or it's over one hour over one hour over one hour. I pulled up the actual card hard because there is a volume one which which is the rest of the same show. I'm looking at some of these names and i'm got. I gotta ask what fucking years this from. This is nineteen ninety seven. Wow okay cause a little clip. I saw when i got here. That's i mean i guess the sheik was in that <hes> sheik was in that <hes> battle royal in in <hes> houston so the fact that he was working a match versus the mighty maccabi this is the name of the event was does does woke up just saying hobby gala on that no no no you get to see him wrestle bam bam bigelow okay. This is one of the most dog shit fucking 'cause i when i bought it. I knew that it was just some indy show right my assumption. I noted you buy it amoeba. Oh i paid way too much for yeah four bucks for bucks four bucks and just just because the coverages says you know nikolai volkov and the iron sheik weaken classy. Freddie blassie had a big load. I'm like this has got to be a nineteen nineties indie show a high school gym but this i mean if you're advertising stereo sound. That's like that's like a hotel that says air conditioning on it right. It's like right. What are we doing here color tv. What are we up to. You know yeah yeah <hes>. Did you view entertainment. I bet they have catalog brother. Let me tell you something the limited research it did after watching this <hes> this is from a an event that was called macabre mania to shackle slam okay so that's why nikolai singing hobson akilah bright. The sheikh is wrestling guy with a jewish star on his star of david on his chest. This is it. This is an event events in the gymnasium of the livingston high school conveniently located in livingston new jersey it had to be it was pennsylvania was the all those the only two states. It could possibly happen of course right. This is a <hes> march first nineteen ninety-seven it was a a fundraising raising event for the put on by a fence sir name jeff <hes> you can't you can't who i say you can. That's just me i'm hot. I keep positive. Are you jeff buchanan or jeff buchanan. That's right p._m._a. All day over here who <hes> i checked out on twitter <hes> he's got a hundred and thirty nine followers on twitter he promoted or what yes he promoted it and and he is the the mighty <hes> maccabi the has a masked man. His avatar on twitter looks like super dave osborne one hundred percent a fencing analysis n._b._c.'s coverage of the two thousand sixteen rio olympics what that is his handle out and then all the people he follows on twitter are ivanka trump kellyanne conway eric trump. Mike passing analysts fencing analyst for n._b._c. dry down. He is is <hes> he hasn't tweeted since november of last year <hes> but at any rate this is according according to cage match dot dot net. Yes this is four years after the first mcabe mania this was this was an an event to raise money for the u._s. Mcabe games fencing team care so then i was like curious <hes> and i found clips of the first one from four years before the show from nineteen ninety-three. Oh boy brother they. They were wrestling in a tent at the end of a fucking cul de sac. Oh at mother fuckers were like it like outdoor fucking event so so as i wow they fucking they stepped it up to get inside that fucking high school gym the neighborhood association holy god damn but i mean this is the most dog shit fucking looking. What's come prepared you on the show. Ken patera wrestled no one but he is in the corner of the mighty maccabi versus the iron sheik home. I got an an an an iron cheeks corner is iron. Mike sharpe of course dude look in fucking exactly the same exact well little fluffier what exactly the same still got the leather cuff. You have never heard fake crowd out noise pumped in like on this d._v._d. I mean it's preposterous. Dude stereo sound i but at the up top they have nikolai <hes> he sings abigail. He sings another song but he also sings heaven. Akilah were then like the the russian national anthem or what's the other now it some fucking can. The boys are back in town. They honest to god. It's hard to fucking understand understand because they have so much. Fake crowd noise being pumped in that it like it i mean it's just it's bullshit. Yeah then fred blassie asi comes out and sings pencil neck geek <hes> with some guy on acoustic guitar. Oh and fred is reading reading the lyrics off of a sheet of paper boy but it's just it's great yeah. It's still holds up. I forgot how much i love that song sure and <hes> the matches that are included nikolai versus bam bam like but nick lyon prime yeah it was it was fucking rough right nineteen ninety-seven house obama looking bam's fucking great yeah yeah but he's you know he's got nothing to work with because he would he was he still had a run-in w._c._w. Left ninety seven yeah he what will when when was he in ec- w that's that was still probably that might have been laura this right march ninety seven wasn't he sorta sorta. Maybe like ninety eight. Maybe he went from here to there and then to w._c._w. Yeah <hes> those ninety two few saturday nights that are up. You should really try to check out. They put up a bunch of ninety two ninety three all saturday nights okay. Yeah i do love some. W w saturday night yeah. I mean that period. You've got fucking. I mean it just. I don't know why it just always felt like i was at my nana's house and it's not like i don't have one of those experiences is where i was like. Oh i had a grandparent who's interesting but my like mental image of watching w._c._w. Saturday night. I was always at my nana's house for some reason you just around that marked out. It was one of those things where it was like if my parents were going out or like it was just like it was just a a like a a babysitter situation. She live nearby. Yeah the next town over yoga yeah the rest of the show. Oh oh earmark atta match mike <hes> an iron. Mike versus king kong bundy the big time. Look this ace darling. Yeah versus devon a storm anna pre e c w dawn marie wow interesting right and then devon storm he was in and <hes> w w rice crowbar crowbar yuccas because then later i think he had daphne with him when he was in w._c._w. I make sense jimmy. Snuka versus the metal maniac. I was i was bummed. I didn't get a chance to see this. One hadn't got to that match yet. <hes> it's not included. This is what a fucking shit show this d._v._d. Is it's because he's elected. Matches elected matches like i guess i gotta get a different d._v._d. To fucking watch that garbage another four bucks if they're lucky and then <hes> the dark match it looks like was dominque clown versus steve carino. No you didn't do ain't the clown was mike qaluwa <hes> i don't know about that. The hawaiian hurricane might qaluwa wow he's kaluga in your coffee. I know they need to they need to bring the show back and have david star on it unbelievable dude. What a fucking i. It's not even worth watching to like. Make fun of well then you got a problem. I mean if you can't even but you got to watch it. You got this fucking <hes> olympic fencer or whatever like dressed in a like. He's got the star david on his chest. He's got worst like the worst mask but here's here's here's the best part in addition to the the ring announcer putting over over like this masked man's credits <hes> which then narrows the playing field of like who he act like we're watching a fundraiser razor for fencing team being put on by a fencer but then the masked man and the main events they keep talking about how what an accomplished accomplished fencer. He is and it's like but why forget it. It's one of these shows. It's not a sword fight. Hey brother. It's like you know if the credit ain't got nothing to do with it then what the fries the point of crediting it. Hey what's going on. Dude or you want me to go out there to livingston new jersey for a sword fighter subdued no way brother x bomber x bomber i get these new hips knees a just to get stabbed bro- no <hes> <hes> and get a ah wrestling gym mercer lightsaber may be j.j abrams. Call me poop. It's what was going on j._j. Why the fucker c. three views is red dude. It's frigging me out. Brother reminds me of what <hes> brutus used to look like what he'd come home from greg valentine's house dude rise of the brother brother squeeze me in. It's one of these fucking shows out of the trash compactor. They're stuck in the trash compactor and he just comes up out of the water do hey what's going on brother but down here the whole time breath. You need to call those droids have opened the door. Dude tastes like sweet sour soup. Hey and god dude. I never had a problem with greet. Oh he fucking shot. I dude. I didn't do shit. I was put over greet. Oh it was my idea for the millennium falcon the a design that ship what's going on you bacha. I got a problem with your date. My daughter dude school lucky circled cool cool dude totally down dude. I'm cool with <hes> calamari to joe fucking walk motherfuckers away from me. Hey fucking freaking me out with your weird. Little fucking junkie hands fucking furry little phases dude totally cool <hes> and lack bar dude scoring on brother. These are not the hawks tres you seek in a landau. <hes> just wanted to apologize dude you know. I didn't know that that camera was rolling big. What you're saying public dude. I'm cool with you but in the age he just social media brother be four to nine scoring on cool you do you do <hes> i g eight. You know we're cool. Macrey bo you need a bass player. Dude dum dum dum dum dum hoc. It's one of these fucking shows to this fucking high school gym show where the discharge dirty man what's going on quite on when he was way over in the little on the small stage duty just couldn't hack it on the big stage but <hes> me and george are cool. I think everything jar did was funny. Dude you. You know i love that kind of humor. Brother did go ahead. Don't this is the show. This is the show i got no problem no problem we can. We can talk about four long. You'll appreciate this this this this. This would make a alvarez's head explode. It's one of these shows where the the play by play guy is on a house. Mike like like to the live crowd so in addition to like they're being fake. Crowd noise being pumped in yeah. You can hear him talking king into the mic. That's being fed into the cameras but you can also hear the the wavy echo of it of an read backing into the room <hes> now. Here's here's the best part stereo sound k the mighty maccabi is fighting for his life against the iron sheik league in iron sheik corners also i and mike sharpe so every once in a while heels that they are the referee will be distracted and one of them is breaking the rules double teaming onto the mighty maccabi but the play by play guy is calling this live onto a house mike about how the referee is distracted and he doesn't see what's going on but doesn't the referee here the guy saying the referees distracted while they are choking him with a foreign object behind his back. That's outrageous. It's i mean it's a grievous <music>. I told vince not put that weakness of the death star dude. We were designing that thing did i was like this shaft is going to be a problem vince oh. What's going on grandma tar. Can i should have recognized your sweet sweet smell. Who's i came on board dude. You smell great dude. Oh aw it's not a trap. I don't care what they say. It's not a trap. No it wasn't a trap dude akbar man. He was real paranoid that guy. It's fucking always looking over shoal well. Do i think if akbar just like let his guard down. We could've made some real money together. Dude said you gotta put me over for this to work. Dude fucking and i'm looking around like where's iota like yoda like this can't be yoda. He's too small to draw any money with dude. I thought yoda was like a big big jet. I dude. I called a little beaver. I said hey man like ooh oozes. Little tokyo lord little brooke lord little brooke. You've got a book iota here dude. That's jake jake's during the snakes to you don't know what's up with the snakes. I walk in. I'm like i don't know if i can draw money with jabba. The hutt dude but who's the chicken. The slave outfit brother could draw the money with her layoff. Those cigarettes fuck java the original the original vapor. He was all who could up news all who could up man. I used to know the name of the little. What is it salacious. Crumbs absolutely right yeah that's. That's the little fucker about that. What a what a shit stirrer. He was all my god. It's not so funny now took one look at the rank core dude and i said that's money said vince you've got to get this rank or guy up to the main roster stat vinci talked to the rank or you can grind is he. He cool with me slamming him dude right so i got a legal pad house i if you put me in the rank or pit. Here's what i do beat for. Beat of some in the rank or the rank were monster. I'm like holy shit. This is the match that i laid out i got. I'm getting him up. Gregorian guard interferes than we do the deal they're like. Am i going to be able to get my hands is on that bone. Stick it in his mouth cool with this vince. Did you talk to the rank court monster dude. Did you talk to the rank core. Monster keepers gonna get oh blubbering marine shit and crying. He needs to put this shit over brother. I wouldn't do carbonite. I told vince from the job. I'm not doing the carbonite you know how derosa is like hell defend the fucking prequel movies to you know to the hilt i do. I remember i'm telling me he got into it. With patton. Oswald once over like the prequel segment hispanics like they fucking sock. I love star wars they suck and then derosa starts in with the yeah well the fuck in the they don't the e walks man the fucking return of the jet. I wasn't that great man. He said that pat atvs said oh as soon as they come in and like the two like backrooms come down and suck the fuck androids out of the sand and they drive away he goes when i saw that in the theater. When i was a kid i was like they have run out of star wars. The old deal sand sweeper that was it <hes> the old droid sucking vacuum and the bottom of the the spaceship told vance at one your work. I told convinced dude. You got not only. Do you have third act problems. You got second problems. Brothers zoos will leave tattooing that fucking. It's over dude sarlak pit once you get in that death starts like you got ted turner sitting there and he's like telling luke skywalker to kill darth vader dude billionaire ted they wanna talk about the finger polka tomb shit how about how about with darth vader picks up ted head-turner and throws him down the fucking mineshaft. Now pressure is gonna show up in the new on. I hear him laughing j._j. H h uh-huh brother luke i am your brother dude together together you and i- nick father and son we can rule the galaxy brother. I knew darts when he was still in minnesota so we're cool. I mean i was with quite gone. Are we were on data. We pointed out the little kid who was like this. Kid is over dude. Did you watch watch the fucking race tonight. Dude i got it here somewhere. Somewhere designed darth malls face pain like i was like dude. This is gonna be killer but you gotta do this and then i see dustin doing it now. Fuck darth maul man half the man used is to be dude h h damn that's france versus. What's the name of that team with with evil in <hes>. They're the they're not the smash brothers anymore anymore. They're they're like. They're like all right. What do the evil society there the evil the dark circle dark circle. What are they they're. They're the dark. I don't even wanna look it up because it is. It's something stupid like that. It's like the there's also the there's that singles match with the two japanese japanese ladies who i don't really know either them but i think it's gonna be fucking awesome where they at double or nothing i think at least one of them was in that that awesome match that it was one of my favorite fucking matches. Somebody told me that there's a joshi documentary that they watched not the not the wrestlers thing from vice because you know there's that wrestlers thing now with <hes> the damian who does <hes> turn out a punk podcast any where he he like he goes and does the joshi one. He does like the violent wrestling one. He does like anything. Have you seen any of these. I didn't watch any of the okay are there. There's yeah there's they're really good and there's one where he just does all <hes> japanese female wrestling. I don't know if that's what you heard about but it is very good. I'll have to check that out yeah joshi so funny as i gilbert godfrey had on. I think it was chip kid. He was talking about black. He was talking about <hes> <hes> when he's on twitter and refers to like some show from japan as he's like when i call it a cartoon they get all upset with me and he's like it was just funny. That guy made the point is like he's like it is a cartoon. He's like it's like if you don't that's what the word anime means rights japanese for cartoon. It'd be the same thing is if if people are upset with you called food instead of saying calling it like mancha like an italian or something well. It's like you know you say. I still say taping something so you know you know what i'm talking about. Yeah there's no tape <unk>. I taped it yeah. I mean fuck you watching t._v. There's no television waves involved. Listen to the radio gone baby. Fuck fuck fuck. It's over man. It's all over man. I mean you're watching a video online. This is not the bitch and then you die you watching. You're watching watching a a a digital file unless you're seeing a quentin tarantino movie none. That's been shot on thirty five millimeter or possibly seventy. We only have a couple days left to get our asses over to the fucking <hes> to the new beverly bev. I heard they're playing whole episode. Bounty law is that that part of the fucking but words come down from the man who goes deeper than the internet than anyone jesse pop that they're that they're gonna put a four hour version on net flicks of once upon the time. I don't know if it will include that bound law. That's four hours offi. I guess no there's a whole tim roth all right in there because in the credits it says tim roth than than parentheses. He was cut yeah yeah man i would. I i would like experience. Let me let me put this over. Can i put this over vince faulk. I know we leave thursday morning. So it's either today or tomorrow. You gotta get over experience time in hollywood. As what did i say once a time once time. That's not a thing that's feinstein johnston. Speak the new beverly cinema the theater owned and operated by writer director quit tarintino seeing exclusive pre show created by the filmmaker featuring a short film and vintage trailers related to the feature events. That's the bounty law so it's an episode bounty law. I mean that's what i was told. At least part of it is that did he go the potman. You don't stop me no but i also don't know if he's the one who told me that he told me about the four hour netflix thing but i don't know who told me about the bounty la when there's i heard you paint houses come out november something it's too far yeah could be a dead. I hope it's not you think he's going to be a dad. I mean the book was great. The trailer did not like get me to jazzed but i mean it's just the like head bautista or or maybe even seen in it or something you know. Try to give it a little. What about roman roman <hes> world famous irish you. You know what's written. He's irish which permit with horns wagle. I don't even remember what it was some somebody. Somebody made a bad joke to me. They were like <hes> they're like. I got rid of all the german people in my phone. Now it's hans frey i know but it suddenly reminded me made me remember there was i don't remember what the context was but it was when they were they were trying to get shameless over as the the top baby face kinda you know fun. Lovin criminals <music> doesn't give a doesn't take anything seriously and it was some deposition or he was being questioned by the cops or i think it was a deposition <hes> mm je remember this where it was like. We got footage of the deposition with shameless yes and he was talking about <hes> one of the lawyers. They was name <hes> lipchitz and he goes if you're lipchitz. What is your arse to right. That's great which had to have been brian. Gourds joke yeah had to have been that's tremendous. Let it was just. I suddenly it. All came. Flooding back to me gives me faulk. Remember when we started this show. It was like the every target i go to. It's just a wall of shame. Install them over. You had all these different and then you couldn't get them sold and then we're stuck with all these shame stalls and now the guy might be done for good. This is the first i'm hearing about this analysis. I think that's a meltzer at some outsor- that is meltzer when the moondog name in spots he likes monkey spot sir when you give seven stars when they're wrestling sling in bars ass out sir when you're in the ring and they sing and it's elias so so he can't work that's meltzer when you are on the phone and your children are home. That's the amount sir when you cough like you're sick and we know it's not a bad psalm out sir when your sheds full of tastes and let us take the that's <hes> that's mouths are maybe we'll go to portfolios portillo's with the with the melts and you'll just get the meat meet you know you can get it without a bun and you just give me to me what what would he if we if we go to the q. and a. and we ask him. What's what like dietary like what are you. What are you doing yeah high protein low carbs. You're on the bike. You're did did you stay away from the jack in the box the label reading the back of the labels. I would be curious because he still he's in it. He shred a baby. He's is threaded luqueno. My wife doesn't even live with me so it's real easy. I make my own food. How does she work at a school in another state another time zone dave dave question. How do you make it work but i mean obviously. Is your wife still coaching at lawrence tech. How do you make it work. We're going to get thrown out. We should go. I mean we can't go in there asking him questions about his old lady. That's that just feels like. It's not cool yeah. No of course not you know yeah but it is like i don't. I wanna understand yeah yeah. I just find endlessly fascinating fascinating dude man and anybody who doesn't see that is blind. That's how you who's river wrestler. I gotta go jay white of everybody. I mean it's it's fresh in my mind you but that guy is doing it and doing it well. He is the best deal in the business and the motherfucker can go. What does he say breathing the switchblade breathe with switchblade supreme breathe with it's either breath with breathe in breathe with ma'am on while. Did you know that guy died from. I'm fucking prodigy. Oh the fire starter yeah yeah. Father strata twisted fought stotka j. wide <hes> yeah man i mean he he killed it and he continues to kill it and coming off the g. One what what can't this guy do fucking wonder bradman. What can't he do. He sliced bread with a switchblade. Who's your favorite wrestler matt. <hes> is classy freddie blassie you know even after watching this ashen plate hollywood fashion russian played. I mean that guy. He's killed. People people like talk about effective. He'll work. Is that involuntary if if something you did on the t._v. Kill somebody i know can. Can you make a case he after the fact he claimed he did it on purpose he wanted more people die <hes> but i don't know man just listening listening to him. I i that song still cracks me up the pencil neck eek. Oh yeah i have. I have it on <hes>. I have it on vinyl me too yeah. Yeah i mean fuck it. The the thing that slaves me is the very end when he's like. They say these geeks come a dime a dozen. I'm looking for the guy supplying the dimes. That's like it's inspired. Wonder who wrote those lyrics <hes> good at find out couldn't have been him. I told this when we write a dude. <hes> i was like dude. It doesn't have to be that rhymney. I'm gonna i'm gonna say something shocking here. Dude let's turn the base all the way down. It was just like when we recorded accorded <hes> and justice for all guys you know people are going to be listened to the basement like this is the holster need to turn the base all the way down so you can't even hear dude. I don't wanna i outshine the band dude. I'm so giving i'm here to put you over lars this. These are the best drum tracks you ever really down not that. You're going to be able to play live. Come be with us friday night in chicago at the beat kitchen at midnight after awa may be with us. We've got a bunch of fucking cool new merch yeah. We've got me and maddie ya. We're gonna fucking. Do it the way we always do it. When we come to chicago we love the <hes> kick ass time. The beat kitchen is our home away from home. We always have a great show there. We always have a great time. We wanna see some of our old friends. Some some of our new friends the very first thing you do saturday morning should be our show at the stroke of midnight friday night. That's right. Get yourself a ticket right so we know you're going to be there. Makes us feel comfortable. It's very helpful if you get it in advance and then friday night saturday morning boy ooh dog you you get what do been zwick in the kids. Find you advance april on twitter vince dot april on instagram zero pow map mccarthy encouraging you to follow me on all forms of social media mccarthy redhead chicago will be there and god damn. We're going to be having a good time. Let me see are there any other shows coming up in the immediate future chicago chicago chicago <hes> uh-huh up up up up up up up up up and nothing before then so kids rave reviews of scribe always the best thing you can do for the show and and <hes> you know if you see that chicago say well hello there. You know say what's up. We always a lot of fucking cool. Dudes and ladies were saying hideaways <hes> at <hes> <hes> at the super j cup. We love it. We always we always want <hes>. You're gonna be all star cast all over everything we'll be around. Please come say whatsapp. If you take a picture. That's super cool. We don't <hes> we don't bite. We ain't <hes> freddie blassie over here. We don't carry forks and our fucking trunks abdul the butcher. We're not gonna stab view. You're not gonna get hep c. b. or a we're not gonna give you staff gay now. We want to be friends. Patriot atrium goddamn pallets patriot shot up to some of these patrons. Thank you damn arms eighty-three. Oh damn arms <hes> not as big as my arm jacob johnson <hes> jacob johnson j._j. Dylan cody bryant <hes>. We are a added cody. Here didn't work out henry wells <hes> i went to the henry wells and it was henry dry. Thank you thank you thank you kids. Don't it to the patriot. You can watch us. You can listen onto us. We can do all sorts of cool thick skin by that was a hit gum podcast.

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The Onion Futures Act (Entry 867.NU1105)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

1:07:30 hr | 1 year ago

The Onion Futures Act (Entry 867.NU1105)

"I would not drive a story that you tell it to. My daughter was beaten to death and Katharine Townsend host of the True Crime Podcast Casts Helen Gone and I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie Ward on September ninth nineteen eighty nine. There's no justice done it hurts. It's a lot of people listen to Helen Gone. That's H.. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts I'm the buses that production of iheartradio and we are Ken Jennings and John Rodrick we speak to you from our present which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early twenty first century during the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization. We began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge these recordings represent our attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica that would otherwise be lost so whether you're listening from an advanced civilization or just reinvented the technology to decrypt transmissions. This is our legacy to you. This is our time capsule. This is the on the bus breath you have accessed entry eight six seven dot N.. You one one zero five live certificate number two five six seven one the onion futures act now <music>. How can the price be going down? Something's wrong <music> here. They're selling mortimer where it's ridiculous. The year a person I think of best fairly financially savvy you manage a portfolio. Don't you guess I have all the game show money somewhere you made money and you tuck it away. Weigh in various places talked. It's not a mattress rice in imaginary places would all be vaporized if the E._M._p.. Pulse Hits Right. I mean well. No you bought a house. So Oh you own some real estate. That's true but then the rest of it is spread around some sort of stock funds. I'm guessing yes and I say things like securities secured commodities commodities right like I know what they are but I really kind of don't do you know what a commodity is. A commodity is different than a security. Yes because it's a thing it's like some kind of crop or product right across share in a corporation or enterprise. I know a com what defines a commodity is that it is a product right like like you were saying crop or a or a mineral but something something where it is it's fungible which is to say that it it's produced multiple places around the world and all those different versions of it are as far as the market or a consumer is concerned is the same so if I buy Tin Qin Right. I'm not buying Amalgamated Tin Company of New Hampshire. I don't care if it came from South Africa Russia all ten is ten. If I own Tim's alternates Tin <music> all wheat is wheat. I like that it's like Catan or pit or something yeah it's well. Those Games are based on on commodity. It's not the other way around. Commodities Trader is not based the settlers Catan and commodities are commodities are different for instance from say like V._C._R.'s because even though V._C._R.. V._C._R.'s still exist and they're still a major force in the stock market but a Sony V._C._R.. On a Philips V._C._R. have elements including their brand including <hes> different <hes> different perceptions in consumers summers about about value and maybe proprietary terry technology so that a Sony V._C._R.. Although it does the same thing as Phillips V._C._R.. Unless it's a Beta unless it's a Beta a Sony V._C._R.. Could inexplicably be it could cost one hundred and fifty dollars more so although you could base you you couldn't I mean there's an element of V._C._R.'s that that perform as commodities because they are mass produced in they are more or less interchangeable all but the element adding the additional element of brand and this is this is also true for instance of eggs right eggs are produced universally. You might me by chickens. No well not over. Yeah that's right. Your wife is producing eggs. How do you feel as we speak? Thank you for that Nice compliment no not as yet that's not true. She produced all her eggs. They were already produced in her when she was born. She came out of the box like that him. How if you're if you're a future links? If you are a species that has ovaries what that means is any offspring you ever have it is out there right now right in your future partners over unless future llings have evolved an ovary that produces eggs on demand and maybe future leagues are able to say I want an egg with a long of that produces an offspring with a long profit would certainly be convenient but the bottom would fall out of the Feminine Hygiene Nestle. I mean if you're thinking about commodities markets just think how that in invention would hurt <hes> you know always Tampax if if if you can just produce one egg when you want to ovulate and nothing else otherwise unless future leagues are sentient Tampons. I feel like a lot of our fans are set but so that is what that is kind of how how a commodity is described and a lot of things are sort of imperfect commodities like an egg for instance like most consumers boomers just want egg. If you go into a restaurant and you order eggs you don't care with those eggs came from South Africa Russia bright but there are eggs that are cage free range free and as a consumer you're willing to pay more for a kind of egg egg so even though eggs function as commodities. They're imperfect. There are other their eggs that that have qualities that that change their value is surname for that I think within a within a over arching conception of commodities. There's a recognition that nothing I mean there are commodities. They're pure commodities than others so it's it's. It's an imperfect scripts. Let's say I go to a sports card. Show where some weirdoes or have card tables. They're selling sports cards now. At the end of the weekend they'll sell them by the box and those become pure commodities. They're not good ones but it's like here's a box of baseball cards offensively. They're all the same you're not gonNA find a Ken Griffey junior right first year card but are the are the nice cards that they have on the table space up at the beginning of the weekend with those counters that commodity those are those. Are you know they're actually just items items you can because you couldn't invest in that. I mean you could invest in each particular. One invest it's hard but not in the mass of Karmic. They don't become a commodity until they come out of the park cardboard box in volume at the end of the weekend. Yeah that's right. I like to understand economic things. In terms of sports cards sales at a local middle school into one. What's interesting interesting about commodities? <hes> like for instance gold. I mean gold is a commodity to the degree that you can throw gold from all around the world into the same little smelting melting pot and smelted down and it's still gold gold gold gold chemically. It's the same thing what's additionally interesting about commodities is is that the price of them is variable or fluctuates according to supply and demand but not to any specific producer of so for instance a gold market or a weak market becomes a global market the price of it. The price of that commodity is determined by I mean obviously it's hard to transport that Australian rich to America but that's that that's part of a commodities exchange for most commodities oddities it has the the price of them is is determined across the entire. Geography doesn't come into play you don't it doesn't matter that even Australia has too much weed. It would be too expensive to get it to the American markets are we can count it out. Is that is that is that a innovation of flatter world of the twentieth century it changes it has changed very much in the in the twentieth century for I mean for instance. There is a global price of gold because an easy example example because there's just not that much gold all the gold ever mined on earth would fit and a cube twenty feet wide or something. Have you heard this thing. There's just not that much gold out there. It's great right. Is that great to you and I think it is great because every time you get a piece of gold you're like where does this go in the cute. Yeah you're like this is part of the cube the cube without me. Maybe this goes on an edge. Maybe somewhere in the middle of the cube just sits with a little corner missing and that's the piece of gold I have here in my mother's wedding and then scrooge mcduck dies around in it but because this commodities <hes> because the prices fluctuate and some of it is to do with the fact that <hes> wheat in Australia may be flourishing today day and we'd in America was all hit with a plague of some kind I mean the commodities <hes> in a way in recent years we've extended commodities even to you include Energy <hes> and we'll get to that in a second but like you can buy and sell electricity now and electricity is an interesting commodity we because although you would think all electricity was more or less the same you can in fact stipulate that the electricity electricity you are buying on electricity market was produced by solar or wind and so people are willing to pay more for for renewable actress out of social conscience. Yeah that's right so it becomes I mean like the the sort of social aspect of of consumerism is now kind of changing the way commodities markets but that's that's not true of ten yet. There's no cage free ten Kim. It's probably true of diamonds where people will pay more for non non west African blood diamonds rusher they will yeah what about a pork bellies. Why is it always bellies? Always WanNa know so everything should have been all commodity with belly so we'll gold valley's oil bellies. We'll get to we'll get to bellies in a second okay <hes> they always say and then they never do better give back to for sure. We're GONNA talk about bellies today so commodities trading trading it kind China has two aspects to it commodity like wheat has what's called a price today right. If you WANNA Bushel of wheat. You're willing to pay today's price. I'm really hungry. Maybe I'll pay too much well but there is a there is a set price for wheat today tomorrow. You know it's weed is ten dollars Bushel right now at Saint Okay and so if you go to someone and say I would like to buy this quantity of wheat. There is a there's a pressure willing to pay in today's Today's market which is called the spot price so if we just ten dollars a Bushel you go to somebody that has to sal and you say l.. Pay You ten dollars for this and you pay this spot price for it has been decided by the market through a series of other transactions. That's right and within a day or two. They have to produce this week for you at that price for what if I'm hungry now okay well at were you would go to the store. If you're hungry. I heard we're talking about trading commodities as a way of of <hes> moving these goods around I don't ever want we've at my house ownership rights to a certain amount of all the weed in the world presumably at this in this example. You're just buying the wheat in order to make bread or something when you have some industrial use for Yoga so that's the spot price which is which is the sort of immediate price but because commodity the availability and <hes> and need fluctuate supply and demand that's right there is also something called the the futures market or the price of a commodity at some point in the future and this is also called the derivatives derivatives market which is to say right now if you're a farmer and you have planted a field of wheat that we'd isn't going to mature mature. You're not going to be able to sell that until the wheat is harvested threat and so you're looking ahead and you're trying to you're trying to gauge page year year. You're trying to say like Oh. I have to pay for my children's College. I have to buy a new combine and a lot of things could happen to your field of wheat between now and when it's harvested rested and ready to sell you could be hit with a storm in your wheat crop could be destroyed but also your neighbors could all be producing fantastic crop of wheat and suddenly there the market is at harvest time full of incredible wheat and naturally that draw that that will drop the overall price of wheat. It could go the other way right like the something awful could happen to all the weed in China and prices could go up and your week could be worth a ton of money that's right and so as a farmer at the beginning of the year you're thinking the last thing I want is to is to have my wheat destroyed or the market crash and I lose the value how you of this week because the spot price of this wheat right now I could if it remained the same I could make predictable decision about my financial shaw wellbeing year from them is and so the futures market exists to eliminate uncertainty for a person like this who would rather have or is it for someone else. No no no. It's it's precisely to reduce uncertainty and of course the buyer of wheat also wants some <hes> predictability in their own life. If you're somebody WHO's making bread and you're looking at the price of wheat as a component of how you're going to produce your own crop drop your own product in the form of bread you look at the spot price now and obviously you're hoping that it will go down by the time we'd is for for sale in the fall but also your you you definitely don't want the price of wheat to skyrocket because it affects your own financial fortunes so what a futures market does in a kind of ideal situation is that both parties agree to settle on a price that they're willing in to pay for wheat at harvest time even though we're we're way up in the year and if you can settle on that price it reduces your risk it reduces risk for party. Somebody's GONNA PROBABLY GONNA lose a little one side or another and somebody's GonNa Amaral one side or another. If we goes up a little or down a little which is typical in in a normal market neither party really wins or loses except by fractions. They're both protected against an incredibly incredibly volatile the little Marc now if the price of wheat skyrockets the farmer might regret having sold all of his we'd at a spot price from nine months ago and the buyer will rejoice because he in purchasing futures he's given himself a competitive advantage You got a really good deal on this bag that I told you that. I didn't realize it was worth this much money. You're buying vilson futures. That's right back down and looks great. Thank you very much. I'm glad you appreciate it not everyone would would. It's a lovely garment bag so but of course like anything that's traded. The future market can also become a space for speculators someone who has no actual interest in wheat beyond just a as a commodity and the occasional Bagel as a way well no I mean they have an interest in the wheat you make into bread but they themselves are just using it. As a financial instrument. This is what I learned about derivatives trading in regards to the housing bubble of two thousand eight or so popping in which case it turned out that the secondary market being created was just a bad dumb thing that was adding no value all you and in fact tanked the world economy. That's am I supposed to hate all derivatives markets for that reason well no derivatives markets so economists economists argue this <hes> and still argue it today whether or not derivatives markets actually have the effect long-term of stabilising Belitung prices or whether they have no effect or whether they actually have a negative effect in terms of stabilising prices like economists like stable prices. They don't like crazy fluctuation. They're boring people or they wouldn't have become a kind of his right and that's the ideal situation. The ideal conditions are ones where predictability prices prices fluctuate according to a small sort of but there's there's not a there aren't these situations where you have a housing crisis where all the bad mortgages have been repackaged into financial instruments which are being traded so the problem with that was not the derivatives existed. It was Kinda. Sketchy derivatives were being created <unk> Cammisa salt the people like deceptive resulted people right but those are recent inventions <hes> the idea of futures trading goes all all the way back to ancient times the the code of Hammurabi actually has in gets are they bad gets. There are no betting gets but there there is a there is a clause within the code that deals with the idea of of selling a the thing that will only come to fruition in the future at a price at a current price. It seems like a natural reaction to dealing with crops which is one of the most common interactions transactions as you would have back then as you may want to sell the crops before harvest. That's right a lot of emails about coal case all the time and unusually when I look at a story I can tell them. The first five minutes probably happened but this one was really strange. I'm Katherine Townsend host of the true crime podcast Helen Gone. I'm an hour's asking people what's wrong. What's wrong and we got him the sheriff's Office he said James Dan no explanation Janey? Janey Ward was sixteen years old when she died under mysterious circumstances she was at a party at a cabin in the woods in the small town of Marshall Arkansas the story that she my daughter would be today. I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie Ward on September Ninth Nineteen eighty-nine listen to hell and gone that's H.. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts and an example of I'm an early an early example of kind of a <hes> futures or sort of or what's called a sort of hedging in in a market <hes> it appears in Aristotle. I thought he tells the story of follies who was a he was a poor philosopher but in using science he he we saw in the stars and in the weather of the spring that there was going to be extremely productive olive harvest at the end of the season season. He's the guy that thought everything was made of water by the way that's the only thing I know about him. He's he thought the Universe is made of water so why olives if he thinks they're made a water well he didn't buy olives. What he did was go around to all the owners of olive presses and contract with them that he would have the exclusive use of their press stress come harvest season and so all the press owners were happy to lease their presses to him at what they considered considered to be a good price and then when all of season he he's insider trading he knows there's going to be a a bumper crop of all well? He's he's he's he's not insider trading because no one in the business gave him that information. He's just observed heated ambition. He didn't go killing orchards okay well but even if he did. He's not insider. Trading is a is a situation where someone within business says we're about to sell. Nobody knows is we're going to have so many olive yeah or we just made a contract with a company. That's going going to double our business and you know it the day before we announce it Gotcha this is just a situation where follies is using his brain and using what he knows about about the weather and harvest and so when suddenly all the olive producers needed to press their olives to make olive oil no choice but to reckon with follies right and he then was renting out his what effectively were his least presses at a at a much greater rate and so- profited quite a bit and became exorbitant prices. Did he gouge these poor farmers I don't I don't admire him. In the story I think resume water secondly. He's victimizing these poor farmers. I think he probably <hes> behaved honourably because aristotle praises him <hes> and in in just that I mean you can raise the price of something A. to account for fluctuations in the market to a point where you're where it's not <unk> user IUS and at and past a certain point then it becomes the moral component enters into it at least two liberals like us who sit didn't think that capitalism shouldn't be pure untrammelled but it should it should also take into account social factors. You don't want to alienate the the entire olive growing community in Greece. He want to keep them. You want to keep everybody happy and also if you're gouging olive growers you're also I mean the the the the owners of the olive presses are also going to resent you because they rented to you at ten shekels but it really just relying on his conscience here nothing no market forces are requiring him not to just set the highest price. He thinks the farmers can pay without <hes> just trashing their crop right Ovo. Although you have to ask yourself does your reputation as a traitor have a long term consequence or are you just in it too short term I guess that's true and this is part of them. The mortgage trade thing and this is part of what we see in financial markets now where corporate raiders will buy a company shut shut down and sell all assets for short-term profit but leave sort of community devastation in their wake and they're that Michael Milkins of the world who are reviled while it's happening a lot of retail in our era future links like a lot of businesses that could otherwise stand business it turns out to one person some hedge fund manager Jarrett's more profitable to shutdown toys R. US or sears or whatever even if they could make a go of it right so places that otherwise would could be a going concern are on the chopping block to these markets and you look at situations like sears where as a retail concern they're not extremely profitable but then someone someone realizes that sears is one of the major property owners in America a lot of real estate owning credible real estate sometimes right in the heart of downtown's and if you by hi sears as a failing commercial enterprise you get this real estate at a bargain <hes> but so the idea of Sir of this kind of futures market <hes> existed for you know since ancient times seizures have existed since the past and and we'll presumably continuing to the future unless <hes> the Early Twentieth Century American political scene eliminates all capitalism and we become a world world a utopian world from each according to his ability to each according it's Gonna be sad for all those guys. They seem so nice finance. You know the one thing I know about young finance guys. They're super cool well. What about when you go down to main street and you meet with your local banker who knows you by name and extend you alone? Gives you a toaster for opening opening an account extend you a loan to buy a new combine rub it in the United States futures trading and throughout most of history futures futures trading was connected to commodities real real commodities like I mean and even the use of a of an olive live press is within the you know it's it's in the concrete world and it isn't it isn't necessarily that anyone anyone olive press is making a better olive oil than any other right <hes> Chicago because it was the location it was central to the agricultural roll world of a of nineteenth century America Chicago became the the Hog Butcher to the world city a big shoulder. That's right about both things and more <hes> <hes> but also the center of commodities training trading in the United States in the world and originally the commodities exchange in Chicago was called the <hes> Chicago Butter and egg board those are the those are the main things in butter and eggs men and this was before a free range eggs back when eggs were just a it just a commodity sounds more like a chocolate chip cookie recipe than a financial institution Chicago Butter and Egg Board it actually sounds like one of these restaurants where you can only get pickled pickles and a little bit of fish mason jars the Chicago butter and egg board <hes> morphed into the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and they were trading in sort of. I guess what you would what you would consider your your regular commodities like doc <hes> cattle and hogs or Melis milk. We're finally getting to where we're not quite. The pork bill fine so fast forward to <hes> the aftermath of World War Two <hes> the country is booming and commodities are in demand all around the financial institutions the Chicago Mercantile Exchange everybody's flourishing. It's sounds like a bubble the <hes> band to me. I love the Chicago Mercantile Exchange Wolfram the six different yeah exactly I record is amazing but in the mid fifties a couple of onion farmers by the name of Sam Segal and Vincent Kasuga <hes> realized I mean they were kind of onion Nyan farmers and also dabbling as onion traitors <hes> they started to try to game the system a little bit game the onion system this game the onion system and onions were a commodity that were that were traded like a lot of produce but onions had become a major a major commodity on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange because they're so delicious. They're very delicious. They are somewhat perishable. Everybody wants an onion as we as we so often say that old saying well no the style of time was to put one on your belt so you needed fresh onion. That's why this was such a big deal. At the time people were wearing non-answer perishable are onions by the way runyon stay through the winter and a root cellar like potatoes well. Have you ever put an onion like raw onion on the countertop and left it there there for a couple of weeks that gets gross `wrinkly and WHO's to say so Salmon Vincent decided that they were. We're going to corner the market on onions. Now it cornering the market is is if you buy enough of a commodity that you have control over you. Have you know you have control over enough of it that you can sort of set the price you can determine the price because like failures with his olive <unk> failures with his press he cornered the market on presses and so- Salmon Vincent were had a plan to corner the market. I looked at the etymology to see if it was some cool thing about how there was one corner of the Chicago Stock Exchange whatever it just means like you're you're backing the other buyers into a corner. You're you're you're cornering them. They have no choice but to accept your price and plenty of people have tried to corner markets over the years and I have not you've never tried to corner the market. Here's the markets have coins quarter zero market then that's not true you cornered the market on people that were winning jeopardy for a while. It's a very small market and it's not publicly traded. Go ahead ahead. Were you about to say oh no nothing you said. Many people tried to corner the market. I thought you had interesting example. Well I do many financial people have tried to corner the market and in the nineteenth century in America cricket. which was this boom time? There were a lot of it was somewhat fashionable for the robber baron class to try to corner the market on something because it you can see see that it has a certain appeal right. I'm the one that owns all the the pork bellies as all the cobalt. You know you can't get cobalt unless you come to me. It seems unfair though like it seems like like your olive press example you would just piss everybody off and maybe <hes> Teddy Roosevelt would pass legislation. I'm saying stop cornering that market you well quite a there was quite a bit of that. One of the more famous instances <hes> immediately after the civil war her during the presidency of Ulysses s grant <hes> the government of the United States was considerably in debt because they spent a lot of money uh fighting the war that they kind of you know they they were spending money. They didn't have yeah but what they did have was gold reserves and so on a semi regular basis president living grant would sell off some of of the the Treasury's gold in order to pay off America's debts and during this period <hes> to robber barons you may have heard of Jay Gould a railroad magnate James Fisk both <hes> both sort of famous and somewhat famously reviled railroad barons of the mid nineteenth century not like the cool all right cool and it's not like the Carnegie's and the J. P. Morgan's who decided to give some of their that's what happens like they. I'm sure they all did off Gould and Fisk. We're not smart enough for their names on any <unk> operators or museum well and it seems like Carnegie and J. P. Morgan and they're at Rockefeller they learned from the experience of of Gould and Fisk because they became a generation later. We get in trouble by the way percent Carnegie. Do you remember this. Oh carnage versus say Carnegie. I don't say Barth alone but so you supposed to say Andrew Carnegie but Carnegie Hall because no one's GonNa Start saying Carnegie Hall Carnegie Deli. I don't know we've we've talked about this before right the Moog synthesizer his his name is Bob Mode even though it's spelled m. o. g. a lot of people give up like Dr Seuss was Dr Sauce. Soy and people just wouldn't say he's like whatever ever swear by the books little bastard I feel like Pearl. Jam just wanted to be just wanted to be a band that appeal to cool kids and and then eventually they realized <hes> just just like springsteen he just appealed. Everybody now can't stop it. I've said this bracy was cheesy but I I don't mean in a bad way by the way no no good the a good kind of cheesy like billy Joel exactly <hes> when I'm when I'm with musicians <hes> I will say Moke. Oh I have <music>. I'm getting I'm getting some cool. MOGUES sounds on this record but The Board Game Company whose name is also a Moog Emoji he pronounces. It moves like he's he's either given up. His branch of the family always did it wrong. I feel like I feel like well. You Know Jennings. When you guys came to Ellis Island? It was actually Jentzsch Jentzsch y what if Ellis island just changed pronunciations only like your name is spelled Jenny will the British they Jennings Jennings <hes> but Jay Gould and James Fisk saw this regularity in the gold market which is that the united the the U._S.. Government was releasing gold on a semi regular although not completely predictable basis and that it that that there was a gold market and they decided they were GonNa try to corner the gold market and part of the way they did. This was by insider trading by some bad by some unscrupulous behaviour they started to buy gold and <hes> one of them new grant's daughter. Maybe she was the daughter-in-law of James Fisk scandal and so <hes> they insisted they asked her they pressured her to introduce them. They were these captains of industry and they met grant and not became friends but you know they became <hes> acquaintances his Golden Fisk New Guy Name Abel Corbin who was kind of just like a wheeler dealer not not a big hot shot and Corbin's daughter or sister no corbin married President Grant's sister and so so these two gould and Fisk they pressured Corbin urban who stood to benefit financially from their patronage to get his wife to introduce them to grant and after they took advantage of this kind kind of association they got they got close enough to grant that they could they. They were trying to get like insider info on when grant was going to be doing a sale of when the government was going to sell treasury gold and then they sent a they sent a letter to the White House saying that gold sales at this time would adversely affect the economy to the detriment of American farmers and it was completely made up they just mean to detriment of us but what they what they were trying to do was stopped the government sale the imminent sale of gold or the imminent sale of gold. That's what I said. It might be imminent Israel if the U._S. government is doing it but in this case the imminence permanents L. Gold and so the grant White House took that letter at face value because these guys were prominent stock market types and I'm always believed the rich lobbyists lobbyists. That's that's what I've learned and so they held off <hes> they held off with their gold sale while Gould and fisk tried to corner the market they bought as much gold as they they could and they <hes> they sort of made the world aware that they were now the <hes> the gold barons but but grant caught wind of it there was there was a scandal and grant ordered the Treasury to release a bunch of gold onto onto the market. The price of gold crashed then the price of Gould crashed and then the price of Gould and fisk crashed and both guys were in financial financial straights but then also were investigated prosecuted although let off with a slap on the wrist because of course they were. I'm not saying he's Golddigger but I love I love I like I like knowing who the Ivana trump of the eighteen seventies is. It's it's ulysses grant's like ugly Greece sister trying to get in there who knows who knows what the she was earlier not I didn't. I didn't search for her relative beauty in the eye of this story. I mean to me that wouldn't affect actor value to me at all no non of course of course not it's really her access to President Grant. That's all I care about. Yes I'm jared Kushner of the eighteen seventies but most of the attempts to a corner markets in the nineteenth century and really throughout the throughout history have failed because it's why because if the fact that you're trying nine to corner the market gets out people can somewhat defend against it. You know you can it. It creates hoarding but ultimately what happens is you inflate the price vice you inflate the price and then naturally the price crashes if as part of cornering the market you don't <hes> navigate investigate the way you're selling your own stock right if you if you try to profit from every time you'd profit you're selling that's right. You're selling which lowers lowers your cornering abilities exactly so if you ninety percent of the world's gold in it and it's been it's inflated four hundred percent while you can't sell it. You know you in your your wealth depends entirely on you keeping cold awhile you've got to irradiate the gold like Goldfinger does in Fort Knox. That's genius. That was pretty smart Goldfinger. He's a smart guy I mean he's always painting people with gold which maybe is not smart as like he needed that goal. You can't corn on the mark of Painting Ladies Goal. Now I mean what that does is create scarcity also it's to put gold leaf on something not not that much also who knows if actually buried it on her. Maybe they scraped it off. I well all you'd have to do is burn her. The gold does not burn it would melt what if she doesn't want to be cremated but she's dead. She has no right to Dr who you are dead especially if you do not cremate notice on her living well if your body is in the hands of a bond villain you're you're you don't and have a lot of rights anyway back to Kasuga and Siegel. Did they pay anyone with onions who don't think the I think the historical record is silent nine one on that but they tried to corner the onion market and here's how they did it. They started buying onions. Yeah that makes sense. That's exactly what I would do shoes and you know they go around. Saying things like <hes> onions are delicious yeah. I want onions fans looking more that happened later so onions were onions kind of started the year at about two dollars and fifty cents a Bushel. uh-huh onions are sold in bags. Not Bushels is true at the time I is it like kind of flour sack sized bag of onions two dollars. That's good deal two and a half dollars a Bush well. This is nineteen fifty something dollars right and they buy up onions and they buy up onion futures to the to the point that they at one point control almost the entire supply of onions they own thirty million pounds of onion. They could turn off the onion faucet awesome at any time that's forcing Americans to eat even blander food than they were already eating in the fifties. That's right you couldn't make onion rings. You couldn't make I mean half of the Chinese food I he seems like it's three quarters onions. You order like chicken with vegetables and it's like a bunch of half cook on INS in some some green onions onions and a lot of stuff and I've become aware of this because because my kids don't like onions onion powder goes in a lot of things what are some things that onions are in <hes> soups. They're on every cheeseburger chicken Potpie Burgers <unk>. Sometimes sandwiches have them it turns out onions are a major major food and it depends on whether you call them a food or a condiment that that will that will oh come up later in the story. Oh Yeah on a hot dog you actually would use them as a condiment. Well you mean onion Sauna Burger. I think the Monroe I think of them as a recipe ingredient reading. I'M GONNA vote food here. Just you know advances futures market for what I'M GONNA call onions but what Siegel and Kasuga did was then they went to onion growers. Here's who still had some onions on the vine and onions crime is almost certain onions crushed right on the vine is just a youth. It's IT'S A it's a term of art in the ground. It's like news on the ground. 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Like is everyone following this in the in the Wall Street Journal or the Herald Tribune People Ark people certainly within the Chicago Mercantile Exchange our community all the newsgroups rec dot art onion is all a buzz that's right but as they're doing this and this is the part that is <hes> that's unscrupulous. I mean it's all pretty unscrupulous. Thus far they were storing onions and those onions were starting to decay yeah. This is a little different than corn the market on tin or silver so they shipped the onions off off to something I didn't know existed which is an onion rehabilitations and they paid people what they paid people at a at data at one remove to strip the the gummy outside of the onions off to get like that fresh new onion union. That's inside of a decaying famously onions have layers and you can do that but they're gonNA get smaller. You'RE GONNA lose twenty percent of the net weight of your onion every time you try this middle maneuver slightly smaller <hes> but then the onions were shipped back to Chicago from the <hes> from the onion from the Betty Ford that's right under of rehabilitation but in the meantime Siegel and Kasuga had shorted the onion market which which is to say that when they looked forward at the price of onions six months from now a lot of people within the commodities modern market. We're seeing this inflated price of onions. They were seeing that onions. Were now a scarcity. They're buying onion futures like there's no tomorrow that's right so when when Kasuga it comes and says you know I'm going to shorting is betting against the market's betting against the price. A lot of onion traders were like Oh oh for sure we will <hes> we'll make this trade with you because we're expecting the price of onions to go up but aren't they like. I'm dealing with this guy who has a lot of control over the these you guys have a lot of control of the price of onions. Do they send intermediaries that they were disguises. A lot of this was was was if you're going to be this surreptitious in your in your onion dealings. You're you're going to you're also GONNA have sellers proxy Shell companies but then people that were monitoring the onion market saw all of these new onions onions being shipped to Chicago. Now these onions were old onions that they already possessed but they were these rehabilitated onions and they and market market observers became aware of what were probably train loads of onions arriving in Chicago and so oh the perception of surplus existed and which was not an accurate they didn't know about the rehabbing but there were a ton kind of extra onions out there well. There were just the regular amount of onions. It's just that these two guys bought them. I see they're counting them twice by thinking they're coming back to counting them twice which caused the price of onions to fall dramatically so bad by the end of this season onions were selling for ten cents a bag but isn't this okay for Kasuga and whatever because they shorted the right Kasuga and Seagal made millions but by this point in time it had attracted the attention of everybody everybody in the in the American commodities and and actually it was in the newspapers right that this was the they had they had in in fact created a real shortage of onion. Yeah I was wondering did this affect the consumer market supermarkets out of onions housewives running to the onion table and fighting over the last few remaining withered onions. That's right all French. Onion Soup was made at beats for that season French beet soup which is terrible label. Put Cheese on beets onions were just called real. They were sad and this all a lot of onion farmers went bankrupt because they bought these onions back and these things have victims uh-huh which all attracted the attention that U._S._D._A.. Attracted government regulators regulators and and a congressman by the name of no less than Gerald Ford really introduced the Onion Futures Act Act which prohibited futures trading in onions okay. Here's my question at this point like maybe President Ford is the future President Ford is not the Brightest Commissioner on the Warren Commission only has characterized by Chevy Chase. You think secretly Ford is actually quite a genus most Michigan football take the problem. The problem with Jesuits is there are two kinds of jesuits and one of them. One kind of Jesuits is closeted homosexual intellectuals <music> who take the priesthood because <hes> that's what happens to the third son in a Catholic family and the other half of Jesuit priests are football players who couldn't find another job wait. Gerald Ford is a Jesuit Catholic note but this is my experience of Michigan football players <hes> I have some of them are genius. Some of them are geniuses and some well no some graduates of Michigan are geniuses and they're all closeted homosexual and then the football players become president of the United States. This is Betty Ford opened her onion Rehab Clinic. She had shed a lot of sexual frustration. My feeling about being the president is it requires you to be smarter than the average bear and so even George W Bush Gerald Ford these presidents that were Kinda famously doll little clownish <hes> still had a dinner they'd be finish quicken a delight. They had to be pretty smart to handle just the basic <hes> duties of the president now our current breath yet. He's still finding the future. Is maybe making that harder case but you know I do feel like our current. President has Ah who would think that onions would be the source of this financial catastrophe. He was like what you should outlaw is the behavior not the behavior because what stops these guys from just doing it with Broccoli the following year well good point but Gerald Ford introduces the Onion Futures Act and right at the last minute some some representatives of the motion picture industry walk into Gerald Ford's office and say we would also like it to include outlawing futures trading on movies on movie sales so wait. There was a sense that you could bet against a movie or for a movie while it was in production. Would you still can do in Vegas. You can go and say I think adventures three is. GonNa be a clunker yeah. There's like what was the fantasy football equivalent of this tour people draft summer movies and they around they perform their portfolio performance according to the movies box office but although you can buy a bundled subprime mortgages you cannot bet on them on the stock doc market against Hollywood movies because the onion futures act became the onion futures and Motion Pictures Act Tampa Tampa. This was just this was just a last minute. Sort of this happens all the time in politics right where you walk in and say but we'd like to also include a clause that makes it illegal to be a cheerleader leader. Whatever little last-minute onion trading so <hes> so today you could still you could bet on the studio ride you you. Could you could short a studio movies. GonNa fail illegal for to create a product that just by buying stock right you know you could you could short it for sure but it's still illegal to create some spiderman portfolio right because you cannot you cannot buy or sell movie tickets as a commodity. I was never tempted to do that anyway. On court to be quite honest <hes> so this this outlawing of onion futures trading devastated the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and in nineteen th so this happened in nineteen eighty fifty eight to delete these onion bag or do they did it. Okay it did all they had left was eggs and Turkeys and potatoes and that did just it just didn't generate the money that onion bags. Thanks did who knew that onions were the were the body of the gold ones and in nineteen sixty one they introduced new commodity to trade pork bellies really really and they said the belly of a park which is a pig got. It is a commodity right. It doesn't matter where the pig grows up. It doesn't matter where the pork is being sold it. Is I mean now. Of course we would have. I don't even know if there is such thing as a free range pig but but pork bellies at the time were seen as kind of interchangeable commodity product and so- pork bellies became. Amo a a thing that revitalize the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and then in nineteen wasn't pork not being sold as a commodity in any form before pigs live pigs <hes> and the carcasses well the the pork belly is a thing that you could somewhat standardized right a pig and a ham can be you can can be various right. A pig can be big. Pig can be small. You can't just say like peg. FOURBILLION is specifically the the belly meat. It's all all that is not all the meat on the pig. It's not haunches or whatever no it's the it is the Bacon basic right and for instance pork belly is extremely popular in China. <hes> <hes> pork bellies is a major commodity and Korea as popular with me. It's Delicious Korea consumed seventy thousand tons of pork belly in their cuisine cuisine and poor prices of pork belly really fluctuate on on these markets because if you have a bad year if a lot of pigs decide that they're going to work out this season and get real firm than career the price of Korean some gop saw goes through the ruthless through the roof <hes> in fact the change in consumption of pork and and the the variation of of <hes> pork on the market but produced less than it became less and less of a commodity oddity that was traded and in fact it was delisted in two thousand eleven but this idea of introducing new commodities so in nineteen sixty six a concentrated orange juice was introduced as a commodity. It didn't matter where you grew your oranges orange juice concentrate because it's now been reduced. Taylor to kind of flavourless weird <hes> goop good cylinder wonderful group and pork bellies end <hes> and concentrated orange juice of course were major major plot points in the movie trading places <hes> because the whole the whole climax of trading places was that that our our heroes had invested you know they got insider information about the orange juice crop and they were able to go in and manipulate the bad guys all right. It's orange juice them. The fake hunt pros. Call them the movie. It's like Ralph. Bellamy and I can't remember so referencing using the hunt brothers. I think maybe the most famous incident of trying to corner the market in modern times was when these two brothers Nelson Baker Hunt and William Herbert Hunt in nineteen seventy nine decided they were going to try and corner the silver market. They were oil. SIAHAAN's of their father was is an oil man down in Texas and in the course of the the year nineteen seventy nine and really just in the fall in September of seventy nine. The price of silver was eleven seven dollars an ounce and they started trying to corner the market and it was in all the newspapers right. They were trying to buy a ton of silver. They were buying silver right and left and the by <hes> by January of nineteen eighty they hit increase the price of silver fifty dollars an ounce and I was twelve years old at the time. Did you own any silver and I have a silver doorstop. I became a real silver bug. <hes> is that the name for a silver investor so yes overbook people were we. We still see the effects today because a lot of family silver <hes> silverware but also a lot of collectible coins <hes> a whole wall sort of slice of what would be a world of collectible silver. It all got melted down people. Were they realize rights. People were like an incredible price than this quarter had as a collectible of certain value but just as raw silver it was worth ten times as much so people were melting their old silver candelabra in order to kind of profit from this bubble but the bubble burst the price of silver fell fell back to eleven dollars and what the hunt brothers done is they had gone on margin. They were buying silver with money. They didn't people's money and when that all fell apart <hes> they lost a fortune of course they still were rich dudes and ended up only getting a slap on the wrist but they it's just like the Duke Brothers at the end of trading places they were literally lying in a garbage dumpster on no they continue to live in mansions and own lots and lots of stuff. Isn't that always the way it really is. The bad side of this story is that commodities trading throughout the seventies was expanded to include things things that previously had not been thought of as commodities including currencies which bid makes sense that currencies would be traded against one another archer. The value of the American dollar goes up relatives in currency trading was not a thing before this <hes> it it was but not traded as the <hes> currencies went up and down relative to one another but there weren't markets that were trading currencies as a as a like like futures at an existential product or like futures right there wasn't there wasn't a futures market in the same way but then interest rates became a thing that you could could you buy and sell futures against you could bet on the stock market indices rather than just on stocks you could just bet on like how the market was doing and then of course famously subprime mortgages but it became a the futures market in the commodities market. It was opened up to include sort of anything you could modify the way the subprime mortgage thing worked is no one mortgage is anything but collected an entire portfolio of ten thousand mortgages are one hundred thousand mortgages becomes an instrument of <hes> becomes a commodity instrument and you can you can buy and sell futures against whether or not there what what the market is. GonNa rate that unless it's bundle unless it's onions are movie tickets onions and movie tickets remain the only two only two commodities that you cannot trade on the commodities monetised market and that concludes the onion futures act entry eight six seven and you won one zero five have certificate number two five six seven one in the omnibus a few shillings. We hope that derivatives markets do not exist in your time well the idea that they actually keep prices. Stable is still debatable. Some would say that they do not that. They increase price volatility volatility. Some would say that they stabilized. That's how you know that economics is just witchdoctor. Science economists argue with one another because they're boring people. No no one wants to try to try. They're trying to do this and it doesn't go over well. Thing is certain that in the future will not be called futures market anymore because it would be called the presents. WHOA wait a minute because they will literally be in the future? Maybe people in the maybe future links will be living hall to. They'll just be so in the moment. I'll just be like dude. I don't care what the price of weed is tomorrow. What if everyone in the future is in show business and they talk all the time about being in the moment like they don't know the word spontaneous they say in the moment. You and I are in show business. Do we talk about being the moment. I don't think we do and I don't think we are. We kind of are in the moment when we do this show. That's the only time of the week I'm in the moment and just like the only time I never off script here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here be here now <hes> but along with your present market hopefully <hes> social media does not exist in our day. The plate of social media was everywhere as a result <hes> John and I were at omnibus this project on every social platform available to our grubby little fingers we were individually at Ken Jennings on twitter and at John Roderick on twitter and instagram. We received <hes> electronic mail communications returning to check by. I haven't looked at the mail in a while. Oh boy I haven't either will you were overseas for a long time. I've I've been gone. I've been out of the country but I should've kept a hand in. It was forget how to get there. You can email us at the omnibus project. gmail.com John does not the password so <hes> maybe <hes> either address me or call John and let them know what the password is bleeped blur. It's snored. That's why he can't remember what we had a post office box for conventional mail. If you don't WanNa send us nail of mass destruction just want US conventional all-male the united this is totally irrelevant side of the United Nations last week with my kids touring the United Nations. I like the old-timey architecture and the buildings wide narrow. We had a very narrow we had a doctor guide was from Uzbekistan and she was kind of walking us through the different <hes> instruments in arms of the United Nations. There's this kid in the group that does not aware that it's not his own personal tour and he is asking the dumbest questions and she's talking about. De Nuclear Proliferation Asian of nuclear arms and he keeps asking wait. So how do they actually work like how does a nuclear bomb work and he's getting increasingly animated like he really needs to know like this. It's this port. EXPEC woman's job to teach him how to make a nuclear bomb and he just can't get his like so. How does it kill so many people with Ballou to what is in there that does that and it's a very awkward situation for the group. Who wants to shut this guy down power as the as the white? Dad Isn't the White Dad at that point supposed to learn he. He has a white dad there. It's his job. Nobody should you grab the other the other dad by the lapels and shake him and say quiet your child <hes>. I'm not actually sure who who he was there with. Maybe he wandered onto the tour. You know my mother doesn't tolerate that type of thing. She'll go right up into a kid space and be like you need to be quiet from now on. We need your mom. There ended ended every Q. and A. Session ever every grocery store every restaurant where there's I want your mom your mom to have a ringtone on my cell phone which is just saying that's not a question so a q. and as I can just play. That's an anecdote. That's not a question you know as an eighty five year old woman she can get away with murder and it's a lot of moral authority that she ask why was even telling the story about the boy who wanted to know how nukes oh because we have a we have a post office address. You can send us things. I just just check the mail. <hes> a woman from Portland. Send US copies of her of her books are very funny books. Apparently <hes> it's a collection of Zine seen some nebulous several issues of her zine. If you're if you're interested in like this one is about the local grocery department apartments Fred Meyer so I'm going to be checking that out. Also somebody sent us these clocks here she three D. printed which are a moebius strip. Yes this time is a flat circle and you can see that on these. I guess the idea is that after going to twelve at does not wrap around a one but it goes around to the back of the Moebius Strip and starts counting from thirteen fourteen fifteen all the way to twenty four and I don't know what you'd have to hang the clocks where you could see it from both sides. I feel like the person should have sent cents a little bit of instruction about how they wanted us to use. We each get one which is nice yet but we we. We've talked talked about them. Now a little bit and we're confused about exactly how it's meant I think if you hang a similar where you can see both sides just have to spend the first twelve hours of the day on this side of your room and then at noon you you walk around together. Southern where you can see the back of the moebius strip where the numbers thirteen through twenty four are are posted. If you are going to send us a gift. Please do not have that gift require that if you if you send us a four dimensional get please. John is not want any non euclidian gift. Just have the gift be a nice thing and not a thing that has to make you move to the other side of the I don't want to have to go. This gift obligates me to be over there now but when you have thought of these artifacts you may send them to us at this this project pillbox five five seven four four shoreline. Washington ninety one five five future links from our vantage point in your distant past. We I have no idea how long our civilization survived but surely it will collapse partly in response to some futures markets. That's goes awry. Oy or that. Kid actually getting the bomb right the kid might get the bomb he might have from the lady from Pakistan may explain it to him in great enough detail that he goes and finds security that gold and creates eighty prints of all gold bomb bomb medicated balm anyway <hes> we hope and pray that the gold bomb never goes off but if the worst comes soon this recording like all our recording maybe our final word also <unk> are recordings are solid gold so yeah. We're going to put him on a solid gold record. It'll be the last minute accused and leave them. Very providence allows future tailings. We hope to be back with you soon. For another entry in Neelum for more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong. Where did they go right. And how can you start your own iconic business. Do you have to meet when you were kids like Ben and Jerry what if you all end up hating each other like the founders of tinder or what if one partner wants to hit the road and the other wants to stay home like Henry Wells and William Fargo. I'm Dana Barrett host of the new IHEART podcast bizarre graffiti. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcasts the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Jed's Downfall, Tyler's Triumph & a Baby in the Closet with Tyler C

The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

1:08:05 hr | 1 year ago

Jed's Downfall, Tyler's Triumph & a Baby in the Closet with Tyler C

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Today for a crate and barrel private registry the event at Craig Barrel Dot Com slash stores slash events would not rob story that you tell it to my daughter was the I'm Katherine Townsend host of the true crime podcast Helen gone and I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie any ward on September ninth nineteen eighty nine when there's no justice done it hurts a lot of people listen to hell and gone. That's H.. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcast this is the Ben and Ashley. I almost famous podcast with iheartradio. We've done this podcast podcast for two years. It's been an amazing two years and exciting two years. We've met some incredible people and also some not so incredible people. I have never in my two years of hosting this show with Ashley had texts. I'M IN DENVER. Some only an hour away from Los Angeles have text till three in the morning with excitement and passion towards a guest but surprise surprise America's sweethearts in Studio Tyler see welcome to co hosting hosting almost race podcast. Oh my Gosh Tyler's I according to social media if you go by follower counts you are the most popular male member of the Bachelor Franchise. I guess and he's humble guys so I mean how overwhelming has this whole thing been for you you. We're not only like such a bachelor fan favorite but it's almost like you would be on the cover of people's most eligible bachelors or like what is what what did the the sexiest man alive like. That's the status that you're at right now. I'll take it's been it's been an incredible experience. It's been crazy. I've been you know never would've expected to be what it has become when I signed up for this and <hes> but I'm super grateful for like my mom I pops my brothers like my best friends that are kind of you know how to take the jabs at me to keep me humble and and just kind of you also helped me through this whole process because it's a lot it's been it's been a whole lot but super grateful for this whole experience now tyler man-to-man here. I've gone through this wild deal. I know where you're from. I've been to Jupiter many times my guy yeah. It's a great spot. My uncle's actually town manager down there so in Jupiter island yeah then down there bunch you know it is a wild deal and I think our listeners always enjoy hearing the behind the scenes and I want to set the stage and I want you to tell me if I'm completely wrong because we've met got some studs from the show I mean there's been a lot of studs. You have definitely retrieved the most in received I should say retrieve received the most like like I'd say love and when it comes to just adoration and just admiration for you but you go on the show you sign up thinking this could work it could not you know you're looking dude like you've been told that your whole life you mean you post pictures on instagram. You know looking like <hes> <hes> what's his face Paul Newman so you know you know what you've got going for you. Paul Newman was a great comparison. Oh yeah I thought that since the beginning I'm big Paul Newman Advan so as you know this going into the show. You know that there's going to be a lot of good looking guys. They're what has the response done to you personally. Has it blown on you way. Is it what you expected <hes> and now what do you do with it now. I mean I never would have expected it to be this. I was I came into this not knowing knowing what to expect and it's been blown away by. It's been so much love and everyone everyone's been amazing. <hes> I guess going forward you know is trying to use use the you know this platform that I've been given for for good things and I'm going to try and promote A._B._C.. Food Tours and things I do with kids and and try and bring those up around me. That's always been my goal Jose. Come Up. Come up with me that I could bring up. No you're actually kind of dark horse in the beginning of all this. I think the first five weeks four weeks before your date in Newport Rhode Island you were just you're kind of flying under the radar. I think a lot of girls were like oh she she can't go there. He's going to be a player. You can't trust a guy with a face I like that and then you turn around and not date was like wait. This guy is like so comforting and he knows all the right things to do to get her in a better mood and all the right things say <hes>. How'd you feel about just like the different stages of your are your bachelorette experience? Yeah No <hes> you know starting in Newport common mean had really made that first big next one on one time <hes> I was given a great opportunity and she was upset she was down and it was your opportunity for me to I can pick her up in those tough times and I was able to do that and I think he just kinda springboard ended our relationship and allow us to really take each other serious moving forward because I think she didn't really take me that serious <hes> ahead of that he didn't begin. I know this because I met with her before your day in Newport Jerry I had a little cameo and there was a couple of days before your date and I was like what about tyler because he's creating. The most buzz is online based on profile pictures. Everybody is talking about how tyler is like the only cute standout and then she was like yeah. I don't know L. Like I'm worried he's a player and she I mean she had those talks with me and and I was able to kind of air out my pass with her and kind of helped us get past that and and <hes> I think we all know that fine when she was really upset really allowed us to really kind of build that bond and C. show that there there could could be something here that could be more than just you know just looks and this and that and it's been so much more ever since is that frustrating that you're getting this. You're getting this player rap. Just ask based on your good appearance. I Dunno those frustrating was just it was just another way from you to break down a barrier with her and connect with her more orange show that I'm more than just that and more than what she sees and in. I think we took those steps in a lot of abolition. We had the title I I think I've never met you in person. I'm sure you're a great dude and you're good looking guy. You got a lot going for you. Say the right things. You're good dancer. I haven't seen anything in you yet that I get I get my phone was blowing up till three am forcing me to have no sleep but I I was laying in bed last night. I was like all right. Why and I want you to disagree with me here? If you do and listeners please emails have been a nationally iheartmedia dot com as lying in bed last night. It was okay. Tyler is a good dude. He's got a lot going from. He should be getting the reception he is. I I love that you are. I think that you're going to do great things with this. I love that I really do think you mean it because I've seen it in in what you've done that everybody's GonNa come up with you in this and and that you want this to be used for good and you're GonNa have fun while doing it as well. I will tell you this. I think you had the easiest journey on the Bachelorette of all time and I say that that is everybody around. You blew up. I mean you you. You'RE GONNA be a star like granted. You deserved it and granted. You're good looking and you're kind you're nice. I've never seen one contestant kind of flyer neat the radar and then Harry everything around him self destruct. I mean even Peter who we love on this show and we can't wait to talk to him. Even Peter made the headlines for having a girl five months before the show happen like it was unbelievable. Everybody blew up but you know I mean for me like I. I would just see happen. We'll see people people you know I think to be the most successful relationship on the on this show you need to be competent in yourself and in your relationship and I saw that a lot of people you know wouldn't be confident in a relationship themselves Hannah and he can just see starting to teeter start to implode and it was everyone was like a ticking time. Bomb people blew who at one after another and all the stuff that came out you know post shows. Is You know mid even more kinda bizarre cells. Why were you thinking the People magazine article came out about Jed having a girlfriend I was? I was disappointed 'cause when that when it got down to me Peter and Jed I thought that anyway she goes. She's going to be in good hands and you truly care for somebody that you want them to be happy and wherever she goes she was going going to be happy and I felt like they would be able to take care of her and just to see all that go down. The way did is just really disappointing and I think Jed. Could've you know he added chances to make things right in an early explained are what's going on and come clean and it didn't happen that way and you know it's just disappointing because I go deserve the world and and I just hated my heart ache for her to see her go through that because I wanted her to be the happiest person ever and she went through some tough times. Do you think that if he he had said anything earlier it would have changed the relationship for the better. I think it would have if he'd said it during the show I think she just would've eliminated them but that's still better for her absolutely a little better tyler I wonder if that brings up a question. I'm thinking that you after being around it and looking back and seeing how he reacted and kind of the conversation you're having. Do you think at any point at him. Oh no like this is bad for me like there's no way out of this like I care about her probably Liam still assuming he does do you think he did not care about it. I I mean I was very close with John. The House we were roommates in the Netherlands and and you know as a guy who I really grew close to and I truly believe that guy had genuinely like like serious feelings for her and loved her and care for. I truly believe that I just think you know he could have when he got home. He could've penalties his ex better and you could have handled things with Hannah better and communicated things a lot better than he did. Be Honest S. right away so I just think that you know I do believe that he really did catch a serious feelings for Hannah and it just didn't know how to you know off that make the in do the right thing. It was just that he got caught in lies and lies like he kind of told her are a little bit and then the People magazine came out and he even tried to denied even further and she was like I have this information why you keep denying it and then he just got caught in such a series as of lives. You know it's just disappointing. I just it's sucks Hannah how to go through this and how how to end but you know Hannah's is going to come out on top and she's I mean she killed last night. She was amazing and she is so powerful and she's the roads hers. You can do whatever she wants and she's going to have. She's GonNa whatever she wants to crush it. I'm just constantly in awe of how she's able to articulate articulate herself so well so intelligent you wanna be a part of if that <hes> powerful world that she's creating. We'll see we'll see what happens. No no no no no. We'll see you want to know wait. Let's not put him in a corner the way he was last night. <hes> you know I think we need to just you know like we need to have a drink. We need to hang out and just see how how it is with no pressure. I only need to put any pressure or anything the expectations on anything just be around each other away from cameras away from everything and and hang out and just enjoy I mean we we have we had a great relationship you know value and shares her so much and all that she's taught myself in learned from her and and I just you know I just want to ever just like cut off from being my friend because it didn't work out. I think that you should totally go. Get a drink but did you feel pressure from Hannah Chris Harrison in the audience last night when she asked you out no. I don't feel much pressure. I thought we were gonNA eventually one day. Have a drink and dinner or something like that. You know I thought thought that was inevitable. Inevitable going to happen and Chris Harrison was just don't fuel on the fire as Chris but it was fun and I was great way to end on a good note and you know that chapter closes the bachelorettes over you know as a new chapter to begin. You know who knows what happens I you no I think tyler you're going to be pushing a corner right and you're dating on national television and I get it like Chris do job. You're sitting up there on stage. I don't I felt bad because I I don't think there's a right answer there but going through your head as you sit there and not you know months before you'd been broken up by this girl she chose somebody l.. She's obviously hurt but she obviously cares a ton about you and looking back on that does that change your feelings towards her and as you say you have so much respect and love for her. What is your thoughts on Hannah now and you were broken up by this girl like you were told to go home and kind of leave life as she moved on with somebody else? Is there any resentment there. There's no resentment and that's why you know I think we need to take it very slowly. When you just have a drink and just see how we are around each other because if we were to just rush into something right away try and be boyfriend and girlfriend you know at the moment or at the after the final rose it would just not be healthy for us? It would be good see part of me felt like think that's kind of how they presented it. It was like well guess what guys dating now I mean. It's just GONNA take it. You know no one step at a time. Have a drink can just see how it is to be around each other with no pressure no cameras on nothing and see how is how it is say didn't feel like a backup plan or a fallback none. I mean I like I still want to be in contact with Hannah like even if she was still Jao still going to be their biggest supporters and biggest fans and see them when when I see them and and now still you know they're not together. Boss still still want you know see what happens and you know if nothing happens in a relationship at least someone like a friendship that always cherish have and be thankful for and you were so classy during your exit I have never seen anybody ready. Get dumped on that show and be as kind and gracious as you are is amazing well. I think I don't know what it was but something came over me as soon as like back she stopped me and I was like I said like this isn't it and something they kinda came over me right away. Take care of this girl because this is her big day who argue corker you. Who are you tyler and before I got in here I read your instagram caption to her and it's like what kind of planet did you come from? More men mad come from that planet. My fiance totally came from the planet but there's there's not eastern came from the planet. That's for sure but and Ben came from the planet had been stingy side. There's four guys I know that came from this planet the planet and Hey Taylor then did a second. I WanNa talk to you about some stuff because I do think you're dude and I've seen I've been around this world not too in comparison for years about and I've seen a lot of people good people coming out of this and I want to spend like two minutes here. Just this chat with you because I don't know when the next time we'll see we're not going That are commenting on your instagram's and we'll see you in person and they'll they'll cry when they see you. Try It will happen to you and I. I want to hear like now does that. That changed the way you're going to date. Does that change when you sit across from Hannah a woman that you knew six months ago before all this happened. Is your mindset different. Has It changed you <hes> you know I. I don't think it's when it comes to dating. I'm still I don't know I haven't really put myself out there to date at all. I don't I don't know what to expect but <hes> you know this has been raising in actually don't know what to expect in the little hand any differently because I have more followers hours because anything like that I handed me and that's how you know it is and I don't know I just you know I'll see how dating goes from here and I'm. I'm not trying to put any pressure or anything but you know it's definitely I definitely crazy. I don't even know what to expect to be honest. I give you cannot give you one piece then in to finish out our guy talk some unsolicited advice. This thing will change you buddy it will it. I say every era the end of the season that my best advice is given but was from Chris Harrison said let this world enhanced life you already had not changed a lot your life completely but it will change into pieces of it it. It just happens but there's nothing there's nothing fulfilling about chasing the fame. There's nothing fulfilling about seeking seeking attention. There's nothing fulfilling about looking for the next conquest. There's nothing good about it and it's happened and it's been done and it's been done for years and years and in years but the most cool thing that happens from the show is when men like you who have it all who have been given a lot who now have a platform Sam going to go against the grain grain and I'm not going to let the critics paralyze me and put me down and I'm not going to let the positive comments. Lift me up and make my head bigger than it ever should be. I'M GONNA stay neutral neutral. I'm going to stay sane. I'm GONNA keep things into perspective and know that you are not God you never will be but at the end of all this in four five six years as you can look back on. I promise you this bud like I promise you look back on this. If you do it well and it will all make sense and we'll all be a blast and you'll get more attention A. and more love and more support than you ever dreamed of and this whole thing will be worth it no matter where you and Hannah go. I don't know I'm not going to put that pressure on you. My only to simplify everything. Don't let your head get too big. It will destroy you know I appreciate that and I mean I've heard so many great things about you how you've handled things Osho and and you know since has being the bachelor and it's great to hear from you because I have the most respect for you from what I've heard from everybody because everyone has so much respect for you so I'll definitely keep that you know and and run with what you just said. I have a blast with anyways. Hey Ashley. I'll bring it back in. I just WanNa make sure at some point in this talk when the guy like tyler comes in and you can feel the president's in everybody's GonNa be swooning over you and they should have a blast with it but I wanna make sure I got to tell you that because the the worst thing that can happen is that this thing you know spits you up in tears you up bitch out and it's just not it's not fun when you see that from a distance really appreciate. I'll definitely be in touch with you about all this. He's he's the mentor for all the guys coming off the show. It's pretty amazing. Ben makes a good friend every couple's every season all right we gotta take a break real quick and we'll be back with so many more questions options for Tyler Cameron. 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Janey Ward was sixteen years old when she died under mysterious circumstances she was at a party already at a cabin in the woods small town of Marshall Arkansas story that she fell all my daughter would be to this. I'm heading back to Arkansas on a new case to find out what happened to Jamie Ward on September Ninth Nineteen eighty-nine listen to hell and gone. That's H.. E. L. L. and gone on Apple podcasts or on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts so we've got big news in your world. I know that you're weddings coming up. We've talked about your wedding a lot in for whatever reason you're very hesitant to continue to talk about it <hes>. I think it's overkill. I feel bad for you know. It's all good but hey I know you're pumped about the possibility awesome ability of jade still make it into the wedding but we've got big news. Jane Tanner just had their second baby in a closet yep on the last podcast you talk about some salad that you brought her. What's going on? Can you break this whole thing down for us now that it's happened in the baby's healthy yes so crazy 'cause when I was talking to you last. It was just just about forty eight hours ago and I was like well. She doesn't have the baby and like <hes> forty eight hours. She probably can't come to the wedding because jade kind of said that August I this was a cutoff for traveling. She didn't WanNa well. She couldn't travel it was her cut off for like being comfortable bringing a baby on a plane <hes> so you know I was kinda trying to cope with the fact that jade probably wouldn't be there but as a kind of a joke and you know a fun experiment moment when we went down to <hes> have a little adult sleepover was John's really weird when I say adult sleepover but like just a sleepover Ajay tanners in Orange County Tony on Friday night I brought her. The salad that has totally has a reputation for inducing labor a lot of celebrities use it. I'm not survey said this on the podcast but Carson Daly's wife went into Labor twice after eating the salad or at least drinking the salad dressing which she did actually drink it from the bottle and then Hillary was also spotted cup like nine months ago before her last child was born going to get the salad and I was like like okay. This'll be fun. It'll be something for everybody to kind of laugh at and when she was eating the salad on Sunday morning we were kind of just deciding how long we were how long we were going to give the salad credit if she did go into the Labor right like so we came to the conclusion that we would give the salad the credit for using her labor if she went into labor within forty eight hours of eating it so she went into Labor fifty five hours after eating it so you guys tell us Ben and Ashley Iheart Media Dot Com if that that means that you think that she went into Labor because of the salad or just because the baby wanted to come I know just because they wanted to come right. She's still was early. She was decently early clauses now. It's so crazy. It's very crazy so when her water broke on Monday night it was like nine something here on the Pacific coast and they texted US tanner is like it's go time I think you sent a video of like her in the background saying like the water broke and so we were very excited because she had made it within that time for a net we needed her to start delivering in but then like an hour and a half later. We got a text from tanner that said wow how that was wild that was it like cryptic and I'm like Kay we've all Jaren are like was it a false alarm like is everything okay and he's like everything. Everything's okay here and like wait. You're telling me that her water broke into delivered the baby within two hours and that was the case so then they face timed us a little bit after and she was in the hospital room feeding the baby and everybody was happy and healthy and it was very traumatic for her because because what happened was she her water broke. She thought she'd have like you know at least seven hours. I think Ami took about seven or eight hours which is still pretty short for for your first pregnancy but for your second pregnancy to deliver within two hours is just insane. That's like something you hear from people who've had like eight children so she was she took a shower she went to go pack up her stuff and wall in the closet. Getting her stuff officials like tanner. I can't move and then she was like though the baby is like on his way out right now and it was his mom her her mom and that was it and they basically almost delivered the baby. The head was out by the time the paramedics came and then the the paramedic like the paramedics came and pulled the body out and that was it insane. Emmy was sleeping the entire time emmys emmys brother was being board in the closet it and she was just just sleeping. How crazy is this? That's what you'd hope. I mean okay so tell you hear stories like this. You know babies are being born from the bachelor franchise so I don't know how many of the people from Bachelor Franchises that you've gotten to me but does this excite you for what the future could hold yeah. I would love to have a huge family. One day I would love to have my own little basketball team. So <hes> just kind of you know that doesn't exciting so scares scares the crap out of like two at the same time so we're always going to be scary until it actually happens to you and then it's just wonderful right but I also just want to say. I still don't want to put any pressure Asher for jade to have to come to the wedding. You know I mean I didn't even I didn't talk to her about that all. I don't want you guys to be like Oh. She's definitely GonNa come thou now I mean I'm not even I'll be super stoked to see her there if she's there but it's still very close us too when the baby was born and it's whatever she feels comfortable with Ashley. You're so sweet. Now I mean like I do. I don't want people like down my throat being like you're gonna make bro a woman get on a plane now. No I'm not this is. It's all jade's decision and I'm not putting any pressure on her way here Ashleigh right now I mean she has been she she has involved herself. In this franchise for years. She's invested a ton of time and effort. She's talked to me for two years on this podcast. She still gets so hyped to meet people like Tyler and get to know them and support them well and because of a few negative comments now actually is so nervous. I am GonNa say listeners every scary this is this week's deal I want go on twitter and Hashtag to almost famous podcast and tag Ashley Canetti in it then go to all of our instagram photos and say something nice that you love about Ashley Ashley because we're going to get her through this. She's going to realize that the criticism will fade and we're GonNa love on her hard this week. Can we do that. It's leading up to her wedding week. She deserves is it. I want it for her. She would never ask for herself and so everybody out there listening spread the news. This is love on Ashley. I because that's very sweet. I definitely certainly don't need it but I appreciate. It and I just want to say that. Jade may have made that plan before the baby came but of course it would make sense if she wanted to change your mind afterward. That's all UNBELIEV. I'm not a crazy name. Crazy friend Tyler Demi Levato. was that at the finale. What do you know about that? I just saw peters finale that I didn't see her at all. When I was there she was there last night in the audience next to Demi he not levato fan of Demi Nevada as well she I just met her actually prior to coming here and she's amazing yeah she persuaded you're so sweet so beautiful for she was awesome yeah so you have I mean? Did you get to meet Demi Lovato. That's a big name to me Demi Lovato I did not I missed missed out on that one <unk> Demi wants to date Mike apparently they've been going back and forth in the d. m. a. c. that <hes> Gopher Mike Evans speaking of the D._M.. I Yeah I know that you have a drink to have with Hannah but gee-gee Hadeed did did follow you and then you followed her back and I don't want to make this seem like you know you guys are GonNa date or anything but are you going to date <hes> which is definitely talks all you haven't damned at all no no. I've been busy with this show and everything okay well. I know you're not alive with the show to send a D._M.. Kidding me Tyler. Oh Jesus is one of the many models that I'm sure is after Tyler. Who's your celebrity crush? We love this question here on the almost as podcasts tells you a lot about them but biggest crush ever was just Alba from into the Blue Jessica Alba commented under jade's picture picture yesterday early so she may watch the bachelor and she may have watched you but she is married with three kids but just Alba into the blue was Monday's crush ever very against very good crash choice. <hes> that's a good one. I like that just like that brings back good memories. Thanks for doing that for Taylor. We have a couple of other things to talk to you about but I want to hear your thoughts. Put on your host Kaffir a Dylan John Paul Jones Demi are going to own the beach. It's it's their beach why Dylan because knowing released Dylan's personality on the Bachelorette season and is incredibly funny. He's witty. He's fun to be around like. Is this going to absolutely crush it all right. We'll watch out for him. He was in the Promo. A good amount to is was he wasn't the one though and who what's your thoughts either because again you don't have any idea for certain it was. There's has the Promo <unk> continue to excite me because there's a fight on the beach. Who Do you think that fight was between to be honest? I don't even know people's names besides guys on my gas so I can't tell you who it was. We never watched the show before I saw yeah. That's it so I mean I've seen I saw a little bit of Joe Season. When I was dating my ex we watched it with her family Gramley a couple times and that was the extent of my bachelor experience so who signed you up for the show I did you did okay so finally in everybody? Else's signed themselves up because I signed myself but I feel like everybody is like I was nominated is nominated like they were like we're the we're though cooled you know I was just like Ah Donald Football and got hurt. I was finishing my m._B._A.. Just studying being a jock and you have an M._B._A.. You have an M._B._A.. You know who are you. Where'd you come from Jupiter? That's awesome okay but no no I <hes> I was just like I was like in the middle of like taking a break from studying. I saw something for I was like why the hell not. The boys will think this is funny yeah and it just kind kind of snowballed from there and here hang with U._S.. Oh that's amazing. I feel bad that I even said who signed you up because I'm so used to being signed me up. I'm so glad yeah just awesome. I was like you know beat up broke jock trying to get my m._B._A.. As you know this could be fun and you know it was turned turned out to be so much more than I ever expected yeah. Where do you want to go now? I mean you have all this stuff in your favor. Say let's take the following aside because the phones going to bring you an income uh-huh and entertainment. I'm sure there's going to be opportunities for you either on the franchisor outside the franchise to make money and entertainment but if all that were to go away what what what is the next few years of your life what what is your dream job Kinda. What do you want to go and other next steps for me is <hes> filing for my juicy license so I've passed those those who <hes> the exams for that in December but my dad got six Kinda without on the wayside and Kinda helped taking care of him and all that so I wanNA get my own construction company started in get that rolling I got a partner and I'm trying to team up with and so he could be like the eyes and be down there and I can bounce around? Do I need to do and <hes> but also you know a lot of energy focus into A._B._C.. Food Tours thing that me and my my best friends run in New York City and tell us about that so A._B._C. Food Tours is what we do is we take underprivileged underprivileged kids in in our area and we bring him on fitness a food excursions and we basically just surrounded by people from different career paths and kind of show them what there is in their own city and what they had access to and it just about getting them out of the neighborhood and seeing what there is and explore new career opportunities because a lot of these kids we asked him whether you want to be a girl if they say I wanna be a fool I play basketball player wannabe rapper which is Great. That's what I wanted to be too but there's so much more to also know about learn about and so that's what we're trying to. We're trying to the curriculum for them. We Wanna get them in with tech building you know companies and finance companies and in other shelves and just fitness companies to see what there is for them as incredible. That's a great idea and and it's so much fun to work with kids like it's the most rewarding feeling and I mean the other day we just did we just got done a eaten pizza cha-cha slide and Thompson Square Park and the lower east side and I'm sitting there with one of the kids eating pizza and he's like this is the best day I've ever had and I was like holy cow. I've I've no idea what kind of impact or having on these kids so everyone's been super supportive and like help an ounce macho more could stores and we've been able to reach we did another one in Brooklyn and <hes> so we just we gained access to twenty more schools in Brooklyn Twenty seven more schools so we're going to be working working with them and we got another food tour coming up with the kids in Brooklyn next week so it's through the schools that you kind of recruit kids to go out on these field trips yeah like the the schools what kind of sauce over the kids fourth graders mainly right now. What's the best way for people to help like I don't know how it's set up but obviously watching the tour your pipes helpful or or donate to her but can you give us a quick run down? If somebody's listening to go. I want to get involved in something like this how they can help you know a lot of people have asked us how they want to help we tell them into a and B Basically D._m.. A._B._C. Food Tours and and tell us how they want help a lot of people given ideas of what they wanna do and and how they want to help us in which we believe if you want to help out tell us what you want to do and if we can make it work. You'll be more willing to do something for us. If you want to do something we tell you to do but then also people can help vice marching towards goner website and in doing that and whatnot awesome man good for you. That's going to be awesome. If I can ever help you. Please let Ashley and I know the PODCAST. I'd love back you. It's one of those things so hey tyler part of this. Whole adventure includes a lot of really fun things in one of the most fun we have as a Bachelor family? Every year is going to the IHEART music fest- <hes> it's something that we've done. I Asha now for for at least three years. This will probably be our fourth. I'm assuming every year it brings about new stories new people we meet some of the coolest of artists this year's lineup is going to be Alicia Keys Backstreet Boys Cagey Elephant Camila Cabello Death Leopard French Montana Tanna Halsey her Houdini blowfish marshmallow miley Cyrus Mumford and sons Stevie hokey Tim McGraw in the Zac Brown band and many many more tyler. I want to invite you if you're not the bachelor of course because that's still <music> out there and it's still in the open we don't know but if you're not the bachelor I want to invite you to Las Vegas Nevada to celebrate the our heart music fest two thousand nineteen eighteen with US okay. I'm there yeah her. We'll give you a little bit so I gotta be alone watching. I'm there okay. I hope you're the bachelor bachelor but you know you have my support appreciate yes. I'm listening. No tickets are on sale now <hes> so Ashley. Can you get us the website where people go purchase these tickets. It's a X.. S. Dot Com A. X.. S. dot com sweet. We hate we'll see you all there and tyler. I hope to be able to spend some time with you. It is is honestly I think actually like it. Both thoug- it is one of the coolest times a year because we got the beat meet so many people who've been on the show Oh and who kind of just starting this experiment and it's a blast so please come hang out enjoy yourself. It's super super cool yeah. I'm there. I'm there I mean I hear I am being careful but what I'm saying I would support either you as bachelor or with Hannah. I've been traumatized lately. It's all good <unk>. Are I have a couple questions for you there. There are a little out of order. They're kind of things that we haven't touched on yet that I think everybody wants to know about so. I'm going to go <unk> through those the next couple of minutes you know already. What did you think about learning that Hannah? Well actually not not slept with Peter in the in the hill. You've already pretty much explained your feelings about that but I want to know if you thought she really needed to say that they had slept together four times during after the final rose <hes> I think you know she ahead no problem with that. You know she's powerful. She's empowering women to be free to speak about their sex life. I think that's important <hes> I think you know I'm no one the judge because I have a pass to so go for it. You know because you want and I I had no problem with it at all. If you are engaged in a hurry share with oh no because <hes> so because I told her to when we were when we were having our fancy sweet date as I look I I need you to figure everything need to figure out these fancy sweets. I don't care what you do because I've had a pass and so all of us who might adjudge you and there's a song that Chris Brown sings and says he's on judge me because if you judge me and get ugly before it gets beautiful. I just think there's no room for me to judge her on what she's doing. She needs because if she was going to pick me at the end. I wanted her to make sure there was no second guessing and she did everything she needed to do to figure got where she wanted to be. I guess if you were engaged her and then she said to America while you were engaged that she didn't have sex twice you actually had sex four times uh-huh Vallecano REPUTA- wrong way I think she was totally fine saying that because she's single but I think it was definitely a cue to the audience that she was single no I i. I don't know I've never I wasn't that situation but I think it's something that if she we are engaged we probably we've already discussed before and I I mean I guess I don't. I don't think I'd take that back. 'cause I'M NOT GONNA judge her for directions because I have a pass to that. I think that's the key right there for all of us listening listening and watching we've talked about it to great extents in this podcast but I'm not going to get into you know who can talk about sex when and where how but the biggest thing is when you are engaged I do think there is in my this is part of the conversation my mom and dad there is a responsibility ability if the if your partner wants to know they don't have to but they wanna know you should be as honest with them as they want. You know in the freedom of your relationship to know that there's there's no judgment but for whatever reason it's GonNa make that relationship stronger release. You're gonNA know where each other stands so. I do think that as tyler just said if she she was I didn't see it as necessarily by her saying she was automatically single because I do think I'm with tyler on well. If I was her fiance we probably would have already talked about it not that I would have loved hearing it again. Airing hiring goes to the public but it would have been yeah and telling the public I think they would have been been that the the part that I thought was the weirdest about this whole sex thing thing if even outside of Luke piece comments that still disrupt me to this day and disturb every ounce of my being because he's just doubling down. I don't get it anyways. The thing that still makes me the most confused the biggest issue I've had with all the sex talk is the fact that this is said in front of Peter's parents. It's the same room and there was pumped. It's so weird right my alone. Oh no met her laugh like took over the audio racking up like it was just like a screech like it was hilarious. I guess what you know. Eh does it really matter. It was four times I was just thinking what's one one four yeah. Yeah I mean no matter what that's weird I remember for kissing on this show and Nash talked about it and having the family watch and the even hear it like that was for sure rough anyways. That's the weirdest part for me from this whole thing is the thing I had the biggest issue with is that her we had to like sit there and watch the parents like laugh and awkwardly really like shrill as this was being discussed eleven weeks ago is about eleven weeks ago that you were dumped by Hannah. How long did it take you to recover from that heartbreak and did you really fully thank you did? I think it's something that's still kind of ongoing. The more you see Hurricana the still brings out those yeah your heart drop and he saw her come out last night or you came out. I was super excited is here there was wasn't it was I was just ecstatic to see him be around because she she brings so much great energy and I guess one thing I tried to a more of a low key laid back on a person and she is such a fireball. It's a nice balance. It makes it a lot of fun and and <hes> but what was your question. How long did it take to recover from your heartbreak? Do you think that you actually did. I don't think it's still something that's you know ongoing and I'm I'm learning from. It's I duNNo. It's allowed to take to recover. I don't know I don't know it's something that's you. You know I see you are still feel certain ways and and but I'm definitely what are this way. I almost lost my dad and I'm not him for twenty six years. You know I knew Hannah for the duration. I was on the show. You know almost as my dad I knew I was GONNA be able to get over this. Get over this. He's home you know it was it was definitely a haunted over but definitely think the world and feel so much this girl so so really put things into perspective yeah yeah the tyler with two things we can talk offline about this too <hes> but things the week before I started the bachelor. My Dad had a triple triple bypass unexpectedly and I wanted to show thinking he was you know he wasn't GonNa make it because he had had some issues in the past and we talked about a few weeks ago on this show of of how hard that was but yet why decided is still do the show and in kind of how actually great it all ended up being for me as a distraction from some tough stuff so if you ever want to chat get my number after the podcast I love to talk through how how you how I managed all that and what I saw was good and bad and ugly about it no definitely I truly appreciate that. That's that's amazing. How's your today is doing much better? He's he's a fighter so he's killing it so your parents are divorced but I felt like they seem to have a good relationship on <hes> hometowns so <hes> you know so much came out of my dad being sick and it's truly is a tough thing for him to go through and he's still having complications applications and he's fighting but it's been such a blessing in the skies you know kind of got him on the straight and narrow path and doing the right thing but it also brought our family so much more closer together and my mom and dad were able to put a lot of differences aside and it's so amazing they do dinners together all the time they do so much stuff together and they help each other out with work. My MOM's a a real estate agent my dad's a general contractor perfect so it's like they're able to help each other out work together and it's really it's really amazing to see you know just how everything's Kinda China come full circle and how they can have a great relationship still and I think it showed on the show they were divorced. Yeah no that hometown was so special and the so grateful for that because that's something I can always have documented and save with my popsy. I've always I had a professor in college. Who told me you should you should sit down with your folks and you should interview them and ask some tough questions about their life and how growing up and that's what I've always wanted to do in the show kind of gave me an opportunity to do that so that's so nice? I hear that hometowns. It's like those conversations they get cut down so so much that you really have an hour conversation with parents that drew you know it was it was a pretty long talk with him and it was one of the best. Let's talk forever I with them. I love that Hannah cushy. I've always been someone that doesn't really open up at all kind of just you know my always been very guarded. Protect myself don't really show emotion. There were a lot of people and <hes> and early pulled a lot of that Outta me and really forced me to to be vulnerable to open up and that allowed me to have such great talks with my mom and my dad during that time and I really had probably one of the best ever have my pops at night. That's so nice. Isn't it wild how that happens. I mean during in this whole show is e feel I do feel like it brings out a whole new side of us when it had issued by parents my whole life and it was to show Oh that I think really allowed us as friends and as a family to get to know each other even better because they had they had it was forced for them to to be in these romantic moments almonds with me and to be my council in my guide and Tyler I think for Advice for you he in the last few days at least about like Hannes life all this happening in Hannah and everything going on no I mean they're they're all just super proud of me and how I have conducted myself and it's all a testament to them and how they've raised me and my brothers you know I'm super thankful and grateful for them and my dad's always been very humbling. You know person for me. He's always knows how to put me in my place and make sure you know I I take care of other people and and stuff like that so you just always make sure you take your time out of your day to to be good. Everyone who comes in sees you and and just be humble. That's awesome. Actually I'll keep I'll let you go keep going. I just want to make sure we reported in a little bit because I think it's such a cool thing he brought up is how close this experiment experience actually brings you to your family or how can bring you so close to your family. I have just a couple more and I know we have to wrap up but I'M GONNA get <hes> into Jed after this break. This is how many think my name is bruce like I'm Gavin to girl man. We got a lot to say. I didn't have a line after we're we're trying to be honest with you as we possibly can without well without killing our own careers this is this is unscripted unfiltered raw five. I use the phrase loosely gentlemen sitting around discussing everything you guys WanNa know so in ten seconds or less how Salman think what is education of all men different ages man code decoded Abu. I don't know if I could say damn. I can't even follow that up the Tagline Lineman. Let's go with that. How many think is available now everywhere you listen to podcasts? Hey I'm Steph Pratt from the hills new beginnings <music>. I'm wells Adams from like a bunch of other reality shows and we have a show that is all about everything that's going on with the hills new beginning. Here's here's the thing we filmed eight hours a day every day. The episode is only one hour. I'm GonNa tell you everything that happened behind the scenes and every scene that got ended it out if you're confused by the show which you probably are all the behind the scenes juicy gossip is right here so if you're a hills fan make sure you download the podcast today at Apple podcasts IHEART APP or wherever you listen to podcasts okay tyler so jed was one of your better friends on the show. What's your friendship with like with him now? Did you saw him for the first this time since the season yesterday he didn't see him last night. <hes> you know we've we've touched a little bit but there hasn't been much between each other and you know he's kind of. I think he's needed space in his I think he just needs his space in his time right now. There's a time that we'll talk and you know kind of talk about what happened happened. What's going on and you know he's got you know some things? He needs to figure out and take care of his in so being that you haven't talk to him very much. I'm assuming you don't know what it meant. When Hannah said four four four and a text message nor do okay that's a mystery that none of us well now but it seems to be a secret code for something for Jed when it comes to girls that he's dating and then? Did you think that like let's be on this year. Did you cringe a little bit when he brought the guitar out for the proposal laughs all around <hes> yeah I think there's you know that time there. He could've spent just what we found him in her yeah I think he did. I think they are just his way of expressing himself the best yeah you know maybe that's how he feels about. It and I don't know to each his own. How'd you feel about? I thought there would never pull that stunt. I'm just saying that there and he's he's got a lot going for that was weird. That was yeah. What did you think about him referring to say that he had won the show instead of the fact that he was engaged when he was talking with his friends in Nashville? I think that's that's very tough up way to put the show for you. I think it kind of puts it in context of being a competition when it shouldn't be it it should be about building a relationship with somebody yeah. I truly believe that's a lot of people took this and <hes> like Francis Luke Sang. I loved you after Knowing Anna for twelve minutes like I think that was all competition base and I think there's an element of the show 'cause obviously you know early guys competing him for one girl you know there is competition base too but it should be about building a relationship and <hes> so yes saying you want is is definitely the best way to go about saying how you just got engaged a Hannah. You're twenty six. You're one of the biggest heartthrobs in the country now and you seem to be wanting to get married. You still want to get married or no. I mean right now. My Dad always says it'll stop you in the face you know and you'll know and <hes> so if it happens you know becomes tomorrow right. If it comes you use years from now it'll be just you know taking. I take every day by day does <hes> you never know what's going to happen. You don't walk into your life or where it goes from here so there's there's so many guys your age on social media apps like dating APPS and they're saying my brother to get off tender yeah why Ryan <music>. You're listening. Stay off that thing just because you don't need it like I believe in like building organic relationships although the Bachelor it's not the most organic but <hes> as like you don't need to be doing that. You need to be a regular kid. Go meet you know girls in your college college in date the right way. You don't need to be on these APPs. Dating dating people and I don't think it's a good loker good thing to be doing my friend. I bring it up because my friend R R Soares though there's so many any I don't think we can you know crap on dating apps here but I do like the way that you're trying to promote people just like talking and communicating in real life and not having having to rely on the back and forth via text message. I think that's kind of what you're saying right <hes> but there's so many guys out there that my friends my single google friends will go on dates with they'll be on the APPS. It seems like they're looking for somebody to date and then in real life though say I'm not looking for anything serious and they'll tell them there's unlike the first date and I'm just glad that you're not one of them. I think those APPs to a lot of instant gratification you can swipe right and you like somebody they matches. Oh cool. Someone likes me. You know and I think that's has to do a lot with it. Ego stroking egos trucking. That's a good way to put it my last question version and then I'll have you give your last questions. I don't think you're gonNA like mine because you're too humble for this but do you feel like Hannah asking you out last night hinges on your chance of being the bachelor because now people are GonNa WanNa see you end up with Hannah more and have her get her happy ending then you the bachelor I don't know I haven't really put much thought into being the bachelor I need to sit down and think about all this I mean is everything's been firestorms our storms the last night so I have no idea I just kind of taken a day by day and seeing what happens and we'll have our drink and we'll see where it goes but you know this. If that's what deters me from being the bachelor then it's not meant to be it's it's whatever happens happens and it's supposed to happen the way supposed to so and I'll end with this plenary cleaning area from Jupiter event the teller. I don't have a lot of questions to follow up with. We like to give every kind of fan favorite favor at the end of the season this opportunity because you know with the hundreds of thousands of people that listen to the podcast we do have a platform to speak on and we don't take that lightly. I WanNa give you the chance tyler to answer this question and then we'll say goodbye to you. Tell her who is the man that you want to be. WHO's a man that I want to be? Who Do you want to become? Who What do you want your legacy to be? Maybe a better way of asking it just one that is able to take cavs family and generations to be and one to you know spread love and show what you know how great love can be. I don't know I just be a good example lead by example and I I don't know it's the man I wanna be. I think it's undefined right now. The thing is writing itself itself as I go and so I mean two years from two years ago. I never thought I'd be doing this today. Mean demand I am today and two years from now might be completely different the man I wanna be now so it's all unwritten I'm just enjoying the ride and seeing where it goes well man. You definitely have a brand new platform to explore all this with as we talked about earlier. Don't take that lightly I encourage you to start the process who you want to become where you want this to go so what you want us to do and what decisions will be made here really in the next month or so that could completely change your future forever but until then tyler you're you're good dude. Thanks for coming on the PODCAST. Thanks for sharing your heart with us. Thanks for being extremely good looking so that my phone can buzz all night last night and <hes> but most importantly man I'm wishing you the absolute best. Please do not hesitate to reach out or chat with Ashley Ni- about anything with that ladies and gentlemen that was Tyler Cameron on consumers podcast. What a podcast this has been? What a season this has been until next time? We're going to be sitting here talking off season. I guess we don't really have an off season. Bachelor in paradise is coming up soon. Make sure you continue tune into the almost famous podcast all the updates behind the scenes exclusives and interviews with the current contestants right here right here at almost famous podcast Hannah you did great. We're sorry to end in love with that. Ah We just hope the best for you in the future. If that's what tyler on this little drink day or any of these guys or if it's the guy that you don't quite know yet. I just know that almost famous podcast fully is behind you. I want to thank my co host. Ashley Canetti who who convince me quite honestly that Hannah was going to be a great bachelorette. I was right right. I have good people reading skills really do I think this is a great season the Bachelorette it was fantastic so great great. I'm all in support of Hannah being the Bachelorette twenty twenty I feel like most of America would be with me on that but I guess we'll have to see who is on the next season season of the bachelor and if anyone could possibly be more readable and loveable as ruble as Hannah. I want to ask you actually before you head out here. I think all of the storyline surrounding this season has kind of overshadowed how this season actually ended and listeners. I want your opinion as well because I want to give you some some honest feedback from me. I I'm not I woke up this morning and I watched last night not feeling that sad for whatever reason even though the endings ending the season was incredibly sad but I didn't feel sad for Hannah as I probably should have because there's so many other storylines that I felt I was trying to process. Do you feel the same same way <hes> I think Hannah has been so strong throughout this process that we just think she can take another blow. You know we <hes> like Oh. She's GonNa Handle. She's so kick ass. We don't have to worry about Hannah and it's actually really sad she went through all of this. She became the Bachelorette Bachelorette. She got that opportunity. She didn't end up with anyone in the end so yeah I feel I do feel bad. I have no doubt that she's GonNa find her person and it's going to work out the way it's supposed oh soo but as an ending and for somebody we've is rooted on so much and who wanted to be loved fiercely it is it's kind of sad to see that didn't happen. I think it's a good good lesson for all of us so listeners. Let's take a second because actually brings up a great point. Is You probably have people in your own life who've just shown incredible strength that they don't let any emotion and they don't let their their issues kind in a fall on anybody else they kind of take it all in themselves and they they move through it. We know people like that. Then all of our lives in this time take a little second up think about who those people are in wrap your arms around him because it's unfair to them that we don't show them the support even when you lead with a humble courage and humble strength in a humble confidence we still need support and it's often times the squeaky people who are begging for attention that get the most attention and the Hannah Lebron's of the world who just got told that her fiance want somebody that she cared about had a girlfriend for the most part throughout the show. She's now sitting there today. Once this is all done processing it on I guarantee she needs eleven support that that we all deserve a moments like this so reach out to handle brown reach out to Ashley Canetti on Ashley. I can Eddie's love week. We're GONNA show her so much support and so much love but Hannah Brown thank you for a great season. You've been great also want to give a thank you to Dunkin donuts minutes shout out the Dunkin donuts for making our morning a little sweeter <hes> you guys know that I'm the huge Dunkin Fan me and jared truly run on Dunkin and I wanNA thank them for cheesy me with bagels and doughnuts in front of me this entire podcasts when I really shouldn't be eating them because my wedding in is really coming up close. Let's face it not only do they have the best donuts but they also serve well the best cough it is coffee in the world hands down on every other incompatible <hes> no I'll except for generous yes darn it. Why don't we always do this? You Ben it's very awkward awkward because I'm such a Dunkin Fan and there's a chance that they might be doing a little something for our wedding because jared and I have been so outspoken about them but I love generous. Yes I love generous yeah well. Hey we get stanza. Both there's a lot of coffee to be spread in this world. We're all drinking Dunkin. I'm a fan of you as well to say. It's the best coffee well. I'll have to let that be decided by the astronaut kinetics of the world but until then visit your local Dunkin' donuts two day it's worth it and we have one more. Thank you thank you to Bennett the executive producer on the bachelor. <hes> he is the best he helps with this show a lot and a and B. I.. P. Looks Awesome congrats to our producer friend Luek Louis for taking over over there in Mexico. That's right yeah we we do we every time we WANNA pause the end of the season and say thanks to to everybody that works on this show that helps us out to get episodes early to get behind the scenes exclusives also thank you the people at Iheart the Easton's in marks and amy's Danielle's Tories of the world for helping us continue you this podcast <hes> in a fashion that is successful in fun. I want also give it time to say thanks to my co host Ashley Canetti for dealing with me for another season for breaking breaking down the season for taking all of this on in the midst of planning a beautiful wedding so please don't forget to love on her this week <hes> what a podcast gas it's been what a season it's been. We look forward to talking to you soon about Bachelor in Paradise One of our favorite times of the year with that I've been been Hey ben. What planet do you come from? Where Saana War saw that sounds like a planet not really okay but you come from the same planets landed cut tyler? Does I've been Ashley. Got Guys follow the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcasts cash on iheartradio or subscribe. Wherever you listen to podcasts what do Tinder Ben and Jerry's and Wells Fargo have in common their all iconic businesses founded? It'd by regular people so how they do it. Where did they go wrong? Where did they go right? And how can you start your own iconic business. 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