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"henry knox" Discussed on The Past and the Curious
"My head of artillery. Yes yes a thousand times. Yes sir thank you. You'll never regret this. I got to tell my wife. She'll never believe. I'm working for the george washington. Oh by the way where all your cannons and stuff. Well they're just like you know three hundred miles away over mountains and rivers and valleys and forests at fort ticonderoga fort ticonderoga. Yeah i know can. Can you go get them. You're going to need them mr artillery. Sure yeah i'll just go get them. Yeah that'd be great. Thank you going to get. These canons was a completely ludicrous job. Most assumed it was a fool's errand. Henry knox just saw an opportunity to make a name for himself and thought he could figure it out so he said yes. I'll go get those cannons. Fort ticonderoga was recently in british hands. But it had been captured by american forces including benedict arnold. This was before he broke george washington's heart and became a traitor to the american cause in fort ticonderoga there were dozens of cannons and mortars the artillery that george washington needed so badly to chase the british out of boston and now they pretty much belonged to the americans but moving these huge iron and brass weapons many of which weighed over a ton. Each was such a hard job that no one wanted to do it or really could do it. For that matter ticonderoga is on lake champlain. Near the new york and vermont border. And let's just say wintertime can be pretty serious up there to add insult to injury. Knox would begin his journey from boston to ticonderoga on november sixteenth. He first went south to new york city and then headed two hundred and fifty or so miles over mountains frozen rivers and forest land to reach the fort along the way he hired men acquired horses and hired a few oxen. Once they arrived at the fort it took a tremendous amount of effort days of dangerous and exhausting work in the bleak. Windy cold to just to get the canons out of the fort and ready to move back to boston. All the while they wanted to maintain the greatest amount of secrecy so the british wouldn't know what they were up to now. It's hard to be quiet when you're moving hundreds of tons of heavy artillery with a train. Not just a manpower but actual horsepower not to mention when you're asking every capable man that you meet and trying to find as many horses as possible word is bound to get around that. Something's up the first part of the canons journey. Required sailing down part of the lake. In boats one of the boats immediately began taking on water. Probably because it was carrying way more weight than it was built for so the men bailed her out rebalanced the precious cargo among the other boats without losing a single cannon and headed off. They were soon met with snow which meant that. They could build sleds and the horses could pull the heavyweight along the way they'd blazed a wide trail cutting down trees to widen the path for the large train travelling on foot once while crossing a frozen river. The ice gave way underneath the weight of a particularly large cannon and down. It went but henry wasn't going to show up with one fewer field peace than he had promised washington so they spent a few days getting it up from the frigid river bottom. If you ask the men they probably would disagree on what was worse than that making it through the berkshire mountains with the dead weight. They were hauling or the mud they had to trudge through when the weather broke and the snow melted either way. He was miserable but they got the job done. By late january the artillery began to show up near boston. Henry knox had assembled a team and done impossible. Not bad for a young man who most recently had been a bookseller. One morning in march. The british army woke up to a surprise when they had gone to sleep the night before. Nothing was unusual. Nothing was amiss but when the sun shone the next morning their wide is saw from high point surrounding the city. All of henry knox's cannons which the american soldiers had labored overnight to put into place within days the british who had been hunkered down in boston for months unwilling to leave while they got the set sail leaving the city for a season and canada. Some people thought. Hey that's the end of the war maps. That were they right. They were worse than right. They were wrong the next summer the british would take new york and spend the next few years running washington ragged henry. Knox was there the whole time to a constant support to washington and the american revolution and he could always credit any future glory to the time that he said yes to the impossible and then made.
"henry knox" Discussed on News 96.5 WDBO
"Direct lineage how they stopped talking to each other because they couldn't agree on some fundamentals. What does it mean to actually have rights? What is rule of law mean? You know, all of these debates were fine. They realize well, we're going to have to settle this. Not with words, but with muskets. And they do and it been in the fight goes so hard and so well, they actually the British leave Boston. That's right. No, I mean, so I have this interaction where this young Captain from Connecticut, by the name of Benedict Arnold comes into Cambridge has a conversation with Warren about some of his plans to take Ticonderoga because there's a small garrison there, but it has 100 cannon. And so Warren actually signs off. This actually does happen Brian, where he signs off on Benedict Arnold's plan to take Ticonderoga and those cannons are eventually brought down by a bookseller out of Boston by the name of Henry Knox, who plays a role in this book, and obviously, by 17 76. They've got all these cannon around Boston are able to drive the British out of Boston. Back out of Boston and then be able to take it. But it really is an incredible story when you realize you know all the debates that kind of we're having today. You know? What does it mean to have natural rights? What does it mean? When our rights are written out in black and white and our Constitution and Bill of Rights back then? They had the 16 28 petition of right. They had the 16 89 Bill of Rights. The American colonists felt that these ideas were sacrosanct, where Parliament, the Kings ministers kind of felt they were series of suggestions that they could ignore to actually advance their temporary interest. So I kind of deal with some of those dynamics, obviously, deal with Lexington and Concord and then obviously culminate with the battle of Bunker Hill. Well, Fanta. It sounds fantastic, especially with Fourth of July coming up Bunker Hill days tomorrow. So, Ned, Best of luck with it will come back and talk about it again. Sounds good. Thanks, Brian. Congratulations. Pick it up. It's called the adversaries Download it now. A story of Boston and Bunker Hill. Another reason to love America. When we come back to your phone calls, then we welcome in Martha MacCallum hosts of the story at three o'clock. This is the Brian Kill me, Chou..
"henry knox" Discussed on The Patriot AM 1150
"Celebrated the 25th of November in 17 83. On that day, the British Army's finally left the now free United States. After the Revolutionary War when we last left off Bill break was telling us how General Washington it shows in a book seller turned general to take over is the British left our new country. Years Bill to tell us more about General Henry Knox. Thank you in 17 75 in the dead of winter inspired continentals and militiamen to drag the cannon seized at Ticonderoga. In the name of the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress to Albany and across the Berkshires to Washington's army at Boston, and he had marched with them. As a boy, I noticed a monument near my family's home and late from New York. It read through this place past General Henry Knox in the winter of 17 75 17 76. Delivered to General George Washington in Cambridge. The train of artillery from Fort Ticonderoga used to force the British Army to evacuate Boston. Knock set out early from the gowns pass, heading a column of some 800 ft two goons and artillery. He paused at the Bowery and Third Avenue near Today's Cooper Union until one p.m. Chatting with the British officers commanding the red coat standing a block or so before him. The last British attachments now received orders to move. They move down the Bowery and.
"henry knox" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Like he has this incredible reputation and what it could only go downhill from here. He is unimpeachable. At this point, he is the symbol of American unity and triumph. He's a living symbol of everything that America stands for. And the Symbol in action is not, you know, he also he's held various roles. He's been a general and he had small elected office before the revolution, but he's never He's not a politician, and he is not hey has not had a formal education the rest of the way. The rest of the founders had Jefferson College of William and Mary Adams, Harvard, It goes on and on Washington had to drop out around 13 14 is very self conscious about this the beginning of the revolution. He literally buys books on military strategy. And that's sort of what's happening here, too. So he also feels like not only am I ill prepared, they're going to see that he's just aware that this could all go horribly. It Z. It could go horribly. Either way. He's at least he does have this intense sense of service. And at this point, it's not ego. It's service. He wants to see it through. He'll do it because they're all saying he has to. But, um he is he is. He would have been just as happy Toto sort of scream from the sidelines. One of the things that struck me in the book is, um how sort of Unclear. The office of the President Woz in the beginning, like people didn't really know what it was. Do you know what it was really? Therefore, in some ways, they weren't quite sure how to address George Washington. They weren't sure if they should bow to him. Why I was there. This kind of confusion initially with like, What is this job? Even We went from being well. Some of us landowning white men went from being subjects to citizens. On day Everyone had been a subject and so there was no protocol it no one had ever known. Anything different in life. And so when Washington is going to, as he calls it, his execution other people call it the inauguration. He, um, he bows to people because we're not a monarchy anymore, and that is incredibly moving to people. And then he does have in hand a constitution almost at all times, and he's annotated it in. This exists you We can see it online and conceived the archives and He literally writes president next to things that are, you know, he interprets to be for the president. But some things just don't work in action. And one of the examples of that is the Constitution. As far as getting advice, it suggests that you go to Congress. On DSA. So Washington who is used to you, a council of war from his time as a general, he gets people together. They give him his opinions. Then he makes the decision. He sends Congress. Ah, bunch of questions to do with oppressing Indian issue, and, uh, he brings along Thies. Um, you know, person who's in charge of Indian affairs, Henry Knox. And he thinks, okay, we're going to talk about this. I've given them time have given them all the information they need. I've given them the questions I I want to ask so clearly they're going to be Answers given Oh, it's a mass. They don't even know like how to stand when he gets there. They don't know where to sit. How did they introduce him? You know, just the mechanics of it are overwhelming. And then a lot of them haven't seen him before. And here's this living legend. They're totally overwhelmed and uncomfortable. He's just like matter of fact needs to get this done, and it basically ends with him yelling at them. And then what happens is he invents the Cabinet that was his invention. It's interesting because like you think about now and all there's all this discussion about you know how much power should the president have? How much power should Congress have you nog? Is Congress relinquishing their power to the president and that kind of thing? And when you tell that story You realize, like how mushy these things have always been like. Is this your thing or my thing? Or what? Or you know, like, who's really in charge here? Who should who should be in charge? That sort of thing. Absolutely. What's amazing is we think that's because everyone has different interpretations right of what these guys were saying. And in fact, the founders themselves because Madison Jefferson all the architects of the of this they're they're They're alive and they're fighting with everyone else about this. You know Madison and Hamilton worked on the Federalist papers. And they managed to agree on all that and on the war, But when it came to actually governing, they were completely at odds. And I think that that is a great lesson to take away. We think that we have a partisan mess. We always had a purpose of yours from the very beginning on, But I find that comforting rather than this, um, well, this fairy tale that we were in agreement in the founders not only understood exactly what needed to happen at the time in the 18th century, but also saw into the future hundreds of years and saw how we should be living. Not to me is not very helpful. It's more of a leap of faith. I'm Carol Miller. Talking with Alexis coaches, A historian and the author of You Never Forget Your First a Biography of George Washington. We're gonna be back in just a minute with more about the man who invented the.
"henry knox" Discussed on WGN Radio
"He wept openly as he wrapped his arms around Henry and embraced him kissing him. On the cheek. Then Knox went on to do not only lend his thing to Fort Mac, but here you write. In 17 78 he set up a military academy to train officers in strategy tactics, logistics and engineering. The school eventually would become West Point an astonishing Character. I would be flabbergasted of movie except, you know who knows what the movie business is Thies days, But our This guy is one of the most interesting characters and you know you look a The phenomenon that is Hamilton and which drew a lot of people back to say, Well, who was Aaron Berg? And what did he do? And who was above apply? This guy fits. You know them fit up there quite up there with Hamilton, but he's at least is interesting in some of the characters in that play. 00 yeah. No, he's he's a fast thinker. And this really wass, I believe after saying history everybody has his mission. The man in the rubber, right? Teddy rose about every has this sort of mission. Their raison tre right now. This is Henry Maddux was crossing the Delaware. Me. His later life was not great. After you left government, you know, he didn't do well in that sense, and he fell on hard times. But But at this moment in time, this was what he was meant to Dio. And when he bought those cannons back to George Washington, you put him up on Dorchester Height, which overlooked Boston Lobster shell from to the British. The British evacuate Boston Americans is the first major victory right fruit. Exactly. Well, it's you know, it's all about that kind of seizing the moment one opportunity. This guy when he read about, you know, he was an ambitious young man and, ah An innovative kind of young man, but he certainly was not did not seem set up for For this kind of I'm glad you brought him to the forefront. But I hope this book does really well because it's ah It's typically written with flair, your typical flare, but it really is a story that needs to be whole would be told on David McCullough was too busy to devote more than three days to do it. But you found you found you found those three pages. What you working on now not to tip off too much. No, no, we'll actually Rick, You have to be back on the show Coach Sally Rand American sex symbols due out in November. No, really one of my favorite characters of all time. I'll tell you this when my father and I were writing a book called yesterday, Chicago It's what my father hit up. Many of his old newspaper photographer friends and one of the highlight pictures of that book is Sally Rand, standing behind a piece of frosted Glass, and the photographer told the story was never printed anywhere else. Told the story of being sent up to interview Sally ran with the reporter. When the reporter left, Sally Rand said. Would you like to see me naked and photographer said Well, yes, I certainly would. And she went behind a piece of frosted glass. And so it is. I'll make a copy of it and some to do and it's a It's a photo of celery run. But selling Ran was a sensation. She danced into her seventies, didn't you? Yes, she did. She did in her feathers are in the deep freeze because I did all the research Chicago history. That's what Spurs are Yeah, No, I know her fellows down there in that deep freeze, right? Yeah, the fans. I went down in the curator took me down to see them and next to it where it's a pair of spectacles and he goes, You know what those are? Don't let go Such Leopold's lover boy! Ah, William, Here's Robinson and we'll see and we'll talk in November. Maybe you'll be allowed to come in the studio. No no guests in the studio. Maybe the world would be an easier, safer, healthier place. By then. It's a terrific book. William Here is the girl's latest. That's his website, William. He's a grove dot com The book Henry Knox is Noble Train. The story of a Boston booksellers heroic and I would even put in there would fit on the cover unlikely expedition that saythe American Revolution Bill. It's always great to talk to you. And you always great to read you. I think that me again. We're anytime. See in November at okay, Belle. They care That was William his. We're going to talk about the sensation that is a sweet home Chicago and how that Video was put together with dozens of local stars would be right now.
"henry knox" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Red Cross blood dot org's We're calling 1 800 Red Cross. You can make a difference. Welcome back. Undoubtedly many, many, many, many thousands of you listeners for thousands of Americans have heard of Fort Max. That is basically the only way in which Henry Knox got a bit of immortality. And I dare say that very few people who have heard the word for next. It's have set up going over that's named for William Hazel Growth will tell you in his new book. Henry Knox is noble trains story of a Boston booksellers heroic expedition that saved the American revolution. The expedition itself is more than hero. It's all it's all so surreal that Washington's that being improving himself, not the world's greatest general Boston's Totally under siege by the British. And so you're Henry Knox decide he doesn't decide, but but he is charged with going up almost to Canada to get some Armaments, Right? Right, right. Yeah. Basically, Fort Ticonderoga. Yeah, You can take it with Benedict Arnold. They find out there's always can interpret that, like, you know, we can't get it 300 miles often. Only a fool would attempt it well, the soul of Henry Knox, he says, I'll go get it. I'll go get it because that's what you can't leave feet to a city without artillery and watching two noses. He knows Henry Knox is the guy to do it. So yes, he takes off on November 17th. With no real idea how to do this now, and it's bad weather. I mean, it's horrible weather, too horrible is the middle winter. It's 75 which was a terrible winter. He's he's heading up there 300 miles. And with no real idea how to do it, except he has the same idea. He's going to use cattle rather oxen sled and pull him back. And you know Washington for counselors like this is ridiculous. It knocks takes off goes all the way up to Fort George goes all the way up to Fort Ticonderoga gets their Luthi things on both, then goes back across a frozen lake Lake George. Just a little narrow. I called, and that chapter is called the hell of Lake George. They are in the boats are sinking and everything. But now he's facing the Hudson River, which he has to cross four times in the Hudson isn't very states of by and for eating. And not something you'd know if these £5000 candidate will go through the river. I hate to keep laughing, but you do it is on the surface or real. But you do tell it in a wonderfully compelling way. I mean, you really do make it an adventure story. Well, you know, here's the thing from the willing. He writes Washington a letter and says I'm on the way with your noble training my toy so no, not a religious man. He believes America is He's ordained by God okay, and that he's class by party is also or during by God. So she elevates, you know, because this is the pivotal moment it's Washington doesn't get from artillery. General Howe will come out of Boston just smash it right because his army that's another how How is a very know much about him? And you paint a really interesting portrait of this guy, too. General Howe. Wait. He's he's He's sort of. So for your listeners. British don't fight in the winter. They go in they party. Basically, they got to the theater. They have dinner. How has his concubine know? And they say, How do you know there's a place called Dorchester fights these cliffs overlooking Boston? I think you know we should take this because if the Americans put cannons up there, we could be in a house like Don't worry about it. They take it. We'll just take it back. So there's a setup, right? Eso eso now not have to get through the door, Chester or rather, the Berkshire Mountains, right? Which which are seemingly impossible. Yeah, it's just like Hannibal, you know, this is like animals march? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It becomes his quest. And so it all breaks down way from the top of the books, tires, But the you know, the Teamsters won't go on the oxen. Uncle on the floods won't go on. So not to give a speech. And he says Storm, he said, This is for the unborn millions to come. This is not it is not just for us. This is for the unborn millions. And you get the moving again, You know? Yeah. Which is amazing when you're learning about this guy, and you're learning things like that you must is save yourself. Jesus. How could know about this guy before? Because every one of you know through and I want to get to the epilogue and what happens in his later life Because that is pretty interesting, too. Is you must have been befuddled. It's that no. One Before you had really decided this man's life was worth and his story was worth telling. He II Rick. I am And you know everybody, right? Yeah. Corner history, and I'm like, Why didn't somebody say if Wilson was the first woman president was badly it? Travel White of the Post is now developing into a movie. It's because nobody can just said she wants official in present. Well, why wasn't handling Max ever covered as this person? Who basically saved the American revolution of 17 75 E. I want to get to read a couple things from the upward to after this is all over to the right of George Washington was Henry Knox. Who was with him in every battle of the American revolution from Boston, New York tone There were not only brothers in arms, but they became fast friends. Washington had no Children, and there was a paternal quality to their friendship. Lucy, who was the wife of Henry Lucy, even stated Mount Vernon during one of her pregnancies when Washington took his leave at the end of the war and said goodbye to Max quote. He wept openly as he wrapped his arms around Henry and embraced him kissing him. On the cheek. Then Knox went on to do not only.
"henry knox" Discussed on WGN Radio
"I just think listen to the news of the world is finally gone Insane if you're dealing with anti mask activists Just think about that for a second. I don't know what their show would have done over the years without my help William his a grove. He was on this show talking, and I don't remember the years right Brother's wrong story about the Wright brothers shots fired in terminal to a very personal till madam president the secret presidency of Edith Wilson that he had was on the show. I wrote about it for the paper. Forging a president Howthe Wild West created Teddy Roosevelt that was on the show Al Capone in the 1933 world's fair, He is not only prolific, he is also really, really good, and he always Enlightens me, Bill. How are you? I'm doing great. Seriously, I don't know what their show would do without you. I mean, you've been virtually for every book because I've picked it up in some again another way and wires Agro book and started reading it and said, Oh, my God, This is fantastic. How the latest Henry Knox is noble train. I never heard. I certainly had never heard of Henry Knox before and you make him a cz. Vivid character is I have read about in some time. How did you come upon him? Tazreen. David McCullough, 17 76. Fantastic Buck. Yeah, and, Yeah, He's a good writer. He's a good writer. McCullough. Great, right, Right. Right. And so he Howard's knocks about three pages. He said that this bookseller went off and drag, uh, 60 tons of cannon back to George Washington and basically saved the American revolution that point And then he moved on. And I thought, Who is this guy? And so I tried. Had anybody written a book on him? And I saw some kids books. So to me when you started begin to what this guy did. It's amazing that he hasn't been covered. No kidding the right and given him much, You know, quite it least some of the founding fathers. Not only not only was he a great hero of the revolution, he's also unbelievably fascinating guy on his own right. And his relationship with with George Washington. Is this paternalistic. We'll get into all this. I want to write here. You start to describe Henry Knox, and it's a wonderful chapter for the rebel bookseller. Henry Knox and White ruffled shirt invested behind high desk in his books during looked anxiously for his wife, Lucy, and then I'm skipping a bit, ER, the London bookstore had become a literary salon in Boston for the fashionable crowd. Of officers and Tory's It was on April 22nd 98 17 71 The Knox had just turned 21 when the publisher's seeds and Gilles posted an announcement on the Boston gives up. This's what then announcement said. Ladies and gentlemen. This day is opened a new London bookstore by Henry Knox opposite William's Court in Cornhill Boston, who is just important in the last ships from London, a large and very elegant assortment of the most modern books in all branches of literature, arts. And Sciences and to be sold as cheap as can be bought at any place in town. That is just a remarkable Zen's. How did this youngster come to that point in his life? Well, you know, classic rags to riches story. Horatio Alger Hiss Father runs off When his night he becomes the breadwinner and you work for these two booksellers, And basically he's self educated. Hey, reads, everything goes special military books. And so then, you know, he wants to go get his own bookstore, and that's that's the part. You're green when he opens his door, and it's like the thing to your listeners. He was the first guy to use blue. Nobody else had done and they're sort of appalled. And then he priced this book's low enough where somebody who is considered poor could also by his work. So so, you know, and again, People can only thought the books were for more of the upper class. Henry Knox was little going his own way at a very early age when he was drawn. He seems at one point in the book. And, you know one of the nice things about this book, William Hazel Grove is the chapters air So shortened punching. I mean, this book, really? Really moves. So at one point you have. He seemed An unlikely hero. Can I put it that way? Absolutely. He's he's a big guy with my column. Heavy butterfat, You know, he's very good. Gary is he blew his fingers off in a hunting accident, so he always wears a scarf around. He's wait 25 17 75. And yet, he he has managed to create this bookstore. It's successful as you said, it's sort of attended by the British and the rebels. Yeah, lonely gets radicalized. And then, of course, he stumbled onto the Boston massacre one night and complete him and makes him realize. This separation will have to occur between America and Britain, and there's no turning back at that point We'll need then in in like the blink of historical I. He's having. He's regularly dining with George Washington and various generals. And and then you write here too, And you're right. You say it to amazingly comma. Not supposed to become a colonel in the artillery Corps without ever serving in the army. This was a testament to George Washington's ability to see hidden talent. But it also shows how adept Henry No was at ingratiating himself. To those who could show him favor that. That's a amazing line. How talk to me about Washington. This book was filled with Cem. To my mind. Interesting revelations about Washington. Maybe not a revelation. But something I'd forgotten is a Washington have no kids. Oh, yeah, right. He had no kids. He had been living off his wife's money for 15 years when they attacked him, And so you listen, now we're talking now. Something certified. The British are holed up in Boston, the Americans of surrounding them. And so you know, Washington comes to lay siege to Boston to try and get the British out. He has no idea how to do it, In fact, some pretty badly in the military or known I know, but Henry Knox comes to Ah The most unlikely rescue. How difficult bill was it? You know, when you're researching someone who has not been the subject of Ah, a lot of previous books. Uh, where'd you go? Where'd you find out about this guy? It was difficult behind he left behind was very dog ear diary that was literally he would write it on the fly in the middle of the Berkshire Mountains are crossing the husband. And so I had that Then I had to military guys, one guy who wrote a little self published pamphlet, a retired colonel in the 19 seventies and then another guy who wrote a study for the Department of Defense in about 2010. And now between all that you have the papers of Henry Knox. And then you have some secondary accounts. But basically you have to sort of draw a line through the force, because a lot of contradiction about how he did this Feet of dragging cannons will not blow the story. But 300 that way. 60 tons, £120,000 or 28. You ve loaded. Yeah. Oh, and you're not blown the story. I want people in the after we take a commercial break to hear the details of that. Of that story, because it is it is one of the amazing adventure Dale. It is an amazing adventure tale. So let's take a short break again. Bill's got a great website. It's William Hazel Grove, H a z e l g R o v dot com and I can frankly recommend any. If you say I like Teddy Roosevelt, then get a steady Roosevelt. The the one that was a really revelation to me and I read, you know, the funny thing is, since you've written this gym Madam president, the secret presidency of Edith Wilson. Ah, I That book must be the source for a lot of other writers who are writing about that man's presidency because I've I've seen that referenced plenty in recent years. Will be back momentarily with William Hayes accrue ripe.
"henry knox" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD
"I wanted to talk a little American history with historian William Hazel Grove. He's a new book out on has to deal with an interesting angle on the Revolutionary War. Henry Knox is noble Train is the title, the story of a Boston booksellers heroic expedition that saved the American Revolution. And William. In the last segment. You were discussing a little bit about how ill prepared Washington's army Wass to fight the British Yeah, again. They they were really just a collection militia. And so Washington had to take this wrong. He's wrong Militiamen and so to convert them into a night, But again he had no artillery. So this is one reason he said Henry not from initial because Washington is a methodical man who's capable of the Hail Mary, which would be crossing the Delaware or sending a 25 year old bookseller to retreat. Cannon really can dislodge the British so okay, so he's waiting for Knox to return. And things are going from bad to worse. And finally finally gets a letter from Henry Knox from the wilderness thing. I'm on the way with your noble train of artillery. That's a very interesting you support. Basically what he's saying is God, I believe in America. God believes in the coming about country, this country based on freedom and liberty. And also I am on a holy quest. This is a quest a holy and this noble training them. Artillery is part of that question. So you know, it's very interesting. The liberation you OK? So Hee, they crossed the brook stone, which are amazing. These frozen out not says the diary. I have no idea how to get across it. They literally have to use black and tackle to get these, you know, £5000 cannons up and down these mountains with oxen used police rapping, you know, works around trees to slow him down to get up. It's just Actually, the whole noble train breaks down in the mountains in the Teamsters about say, we're done. We're not going for a drink before you know it was really at his best because he says Melissa This isn't for us. This is for the unborn millions there yet to come. The unborn millions who centuries I had or enjoy will be part of this country based on freedom and liberty, and he gets a moving again. So finally, finally, he gets the cannons. The Boston three months later, Washington now has options. So what you do, there's a place called Dorchester Heights. Dorchester Heights is his foot up mountains enclave didn't know neither Army and occupied a unit over Boston in one light. Washington and knocks track of all 59 cans to the time. And when the British wake up in the morning, they see these cannons overlooking the sky and this incredible bombarded by the way. They also are threatening the British Navy in Boston Harbor and the British Navy. Since you never get rid of these cans, or we don't leave well, how tries to attack But he can't because first of all, a terrible storm comes up. Also, Washington has the high ground, so general health and there's something in anything, he says. We're going to graduate Boston. And he does, and this gives the Americans who are are barely hanging on their first victory in little about how no That there's this bookseller upon the cliffs watching his ships leave Boston with again all these loyal Liston toys, and he's the reason That he was forced out of Boston. Now this gets France interested in supporting America also gets the colony. By the way, the country was not totally behind, breaking from Britain, so a lot of colleagues had even sent Representatives to Congress. So now everybody, like Hey, we can do this. You know, we won't be crushed immediately by the superpower of our time. The British and it's really do Henry. Not noble training, which again is just this incredible feat of pulling the 59 canons from that data winter at a time when people said there is no way I mean Washington four cameras, but there's no way you can do this. Yet he did it. Really is an amazing story, and I know there's a lot more to the story and you can read the rest of the story by getting the book Where can they find the book? They can find the book and William Hazel grove dot com. Noble Amazon a place like that, but again, go to my site and There's lots of there's a great book trailer there from the book. Lots of clips of media. Many, many podcast interviews. They can listen, Teo So yeah. Right there. I'm speaking with William Hazel Grove historian. We're going over some American history because it is the fourth of July weekend. There's something you said earlier on in the show that caught my attention. You said it's important to warn history because it gives us context for what's happening today. And you happen to say that a lot of what's happening, especially with President Trump. The divisions in the country goes all the way back to the gilded age in this country. What exactly did you mean by that? We'll probably it was probably don't know is that 18 95 JP Morgan bought the country. Um do you want the gold standard at the time? And we basically kept $100 million in the treasure. And so what happened? Wass. All these Europeans invest in the country made Bannon vessel. It's Argentina, so they need a carriage. So he started pulling out all the goal also had the panic 18 93 so that was drained the gold. Suddenly we were down to 50 million and the rest of it was going on at a rate of $2 million a day Glo Buckley almost president, JP Morgan, who it was invested heavily in the country and steal and railroads. Cannot afford to let his biggest stock United States default on its money because you can print money. It's not like today it was based on the gold standard. So Morgan gets in its palatial palace car, and the railroad goes to Washington and meet with Grover Cleveland and says, Look, you're going to fall tomorrow. I I know who's you know, pulling out the money tomorrow and you can be broke. United States broke. I can help you. I can bail you out and so basically for $93 million in gold. J. P. Morgan went and bought the country. I don't think about that a private citizen bailed out the United States. So all that power. All that power shifted over to guys like Morgan was really an international banker. Right? So so the gilded age, you know was this time of incredible growth. Where way before the Civil war in agrarian societies were basically we're small town. You know where you would sell your goods in the town by your good well, now now. After the Civil war. After we kill all those rounds there we have a national market so everything can be shipped to market And so now, people our labors, all right, They have to go work for these big big industrial behemoth Carnegie Morgan. All these people who now own railroad, steel mills. So people are sellers of their labor, right? They're selling the labour to these people, and I don't mean you know, we only have like about a minute weapon that ties to today. Because the way the economy is Yeah, because the way the communist because the human body cycle and the fact that you know ah American workers, basically at the mercy of the people who own these massive industries. Very interesting stuff out to bring you on again in the future to dock delve more into that because I find that subject Very fascinating. William Hazel Grove, historian, author of the new book, Henry Knox is noble Train. Thank you so much for coming on the Ford A roundtable today and I hope you have a great Fourth of July you very much for having me And a closing thought in just a moment on this edition of the fort around him..
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"Wherever you're listening now George. Washington had stepped into the presidency determined to preserve and strengthen a divided republic by the summer of seventeen ninety. Four he was facing the first major domestic crisis in his presidency but his respond to the whiskey. Rebellion was not just out of a distant politician years of firsthand experience on the frontier had shaped his attitude toward the rebels and help form his policy. Washington had I traveled West on a surveying expedition when he was just sixteen throughout the journey. He was impressed with the region's plentiful timber rich soil but he was repulsed by the frontier. Zeman themselves writing that he found himself amongst parcel of our barons and uncouth set of people when he encountered German settlers who could not speak English. He deemed them as ignorant a set of people as the Indians. A few years later Washington began his military career out west during the French and Indian war afterward. He helped award land claims to veterans. He himself bought up several large parcels massing. Tens of thousands of acres of Western land but Washington live back east. And once he returned home he joined the class of absentee landlords resented by Westerners in the years to come Washington would have to fend off squatters. Who tried to occupy his property and he grew frustrated with settlers refusal to honor his land rights so by the time he was President. Washington had developed several decades worth a personal prejudices against Westerners. He questioned the loyalty of the frontiers. Mun especially after Shays rebellion and independence movements in North Carolina and Kentucky in the seventeen eighty s but Washington also firmly believed that the west was essential to the country's future prosperity and security. He knew the region was a crucial buffer against encroachment by European powers now with rural distillers and farmers protesting the federal tax. On whiskey. Washington grew alarmed. He believed that the growing rebellion in western Pennsylvania posed a significant threat to the nation survival and he was stunned by news of the August. First military rally at Branagh's field near Pittsburgh so the following day on August second Washington and his cabinet met with Pennsylvania state officials and the chief justice of the Supreme Court to debate how to subdue the rebellion Washington had a few options the militia act of seventeen ninety two had set out the terms for military response under that law. The president could mobilize state militias to put an end to Mesic rebellion but only with the Supreme Court justices approval at the second meeting. Washington announced that the rebellion struck at the root of all law and order. He declared that the most spirited and firm measures were necessary to protect the constitution and the rule of law he asked the Pennsylvania representatives to call out the militia but the state leaders vehemently disagreed. They believe their show of force would only escalate hostility with the rebels that days meeting ended in a stalemate over the next few days. Washington's treasury secretary and close ally Alexander Hamilton prepared the case for Military Force Hamilton produced a report characterizing events in western Pennsylvania as a domestic insurrection. He argued that the regional leaders who had issued petitions in seventeen ninety one ninety two were instigating violence among the people and he cited. The failure of local law enforcement to respond to attacks noted that reforms to the whiskey tax had done little to stem the rebellion. Hamilton concluded. That the only solution was to dispatch twelve thousand troops to the region in comparison. Only about eleven thousand. American soldiers had fought the British at Yorktown. Hamilton's proposal ignited a heated debate within the administration secretary of war. Henry Knox Join Hamilton and advocating for military solution but Secretary St Edmund Randolph disagreed urging the president to instead send a peace commission and negotiate with the rebels. Randolph argued that unnecessarily harsh action that lacked a spirit of reconciliation would only inflame tensions Washington Wade both positions. He told his advisors he was determined to go. Every length at the Constitution and laws would permit but no further to end the rebellion by the end of the cabinet meeting on August. Six Washington had made his decision. He landed on a broad approach. That would prepare the government for all possible contingencies. He decided to send a peace commission to negotiate with the rebels while simultaneously issuing a preliminary call from militiamen. His strategy was a savvy political. Move as well as practical. Washington wanted to demonstrate that he had exhausted every possible option before sending troops into the field. The Peace Commission would help shield his administration from public criticism but it would also give him time to raise and supply militia on August seventh. Seventeen ninety four the president issued a proclamation calling for the rebels to stand down and threatening military suppression. If they refused he invoked militia. Act of seventeen ninety two announcing that the chief justice of the Supreme Court had approved the use of military force. Meanwhile Secretary of war sent orders to the governors of Pennsylvania New Jersey Maryland in Virginia to raise a total of thirteen thousand militiamen. But that same day. Washington rushed three peace commissioners to the region negotiate an end to the rebellion.
"henry knox" Discussed on Scene On Radio
"I picture in his study out there at Mount Vernon outside his French paned windows. Several hundred captive. Black people are toiling away away and his vast farmlands Washington's fifty four but feeling older rheumatism is acting. It's been three years since the Treaty of Paris. Chris ended the revolutionary war with the British recognizing the United States Washington spent eight years away from home leading the continental army me. So He's written that he wants to live quietly from now on under the shadow of my own vine and my own fig tree there at his desk opens the latter from his friend and former military officer Henry Knox writing from New York. My dear Sir I have long intended myself the pleasure of visiting can you at Mount Vernon and although I have not given up that hope knocks gets passed the pleasantries and to his point he tells Washington about the commotions in Massachusetts sits farmers protesting high taxes and showing up with guns by the hundreds to shutdown county court. This dreadful situation has alarmed every man of principal and property and New England. They start as from dream and ask what has been the cause of our delusion. Wealthy People in New England wanted these protests protests to stop but the articles of confederation the nation's first federal agreement created after the revolution gave the national government no power our tax make federal laws or keep a standing army. The articles tied together loosely. What we're essentially thirteen independent republics the Confederation Congress could sign treaties print money and declare war but couldn't put down sizing the one in Massachusetts? So Oh Knox is telling Washington. The current arrangement just doesn't work a government. Must be braced changed or altered to secure our lives and property when Washington writes back expresses alarm about civil disobedience in western Massachusetts Resistance Resistance Movement led by among other people a farmer named Daniel. Shays Good God who. Besides the Tory could have foreseen Washington. Worries that if that that disorder isn't resolved it could spread and in fact farmers and other working people are protesting high taxes in other parts of the new nation. There're combustibles in every state which has sparked may set fire to Washington agrees with knocks. The leaders of the states should meet and soon to construct a stronger federal government at a constitutional convention or the prevailing sentiments of the one now proposed to be held at Philadelphia in May next. And how will it be attended attended. These are real questions. Leaders of several states opposed changes to the articles of confederation and are refusing to go to the constitutional convention. Washington knows he's the most widely respected man in the country and that if he attends he'll be asked to preside over the meetings but he doesn't WanNA come out of retirement airmont and says he doesn't plan to attend in January seventeen eighty seven. Henry Knox writes again pleading with Washington saying the success or failure. The era of the meetings in Philadelphia may rest on his shoulders. I am persuaded if you're determined to attend the convention and it should be generally known it would induce induced the eastern states to send delegates to it. I should therefore be much obliged for information of your decision on the subject. Washington has already been called the father of his country. His sense of duty and concern for his reputation finally went out just weeks before the convention is to open in late March. He he writes to Governor Edmund Randolph. WHO's putting together? The Virginia delegation as my friends with a degree of solicitude which is unusual seemed to wish my attendance on this occasion. I have come to a resolution to go if my health.
"henry knox" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"New year's eve day right that's right right right yeah yeah this is that gets confusing when you work the overnight actually sometimes guests get confused as to what they recommend because it's just so weird figuring out what day is what thanks to John L. bell boy boy I love Henry Knox and I love the way John talked about Henry Knox it's local history for us you know we're talking about Framingham dragon the cannon to Framingham yes that same Framingham I know you mentioned leach mare which may point or something like that the same leach mer leach mehr news he he where there were a Framingham came from what was that really a little town where they made frames maybe maybe not picture frames maybe housing frames I don't know leach mere what's that from leach mere that lower leagues rare leaping lord leads mayor from from Essex England I have no idea what I would like to know that stuff well we each time we have a historian now we learn a little more humble I I tell you Henry Knox under song superstar's super hero he's the kind of guy that gets the impossible done kind of guy that Washington can count on not like some of his other generals like Li for example Henry Knox I want you to go drag these can get it in a huge cannon it's an insurmountable thing who among you could do that today yeah let's say probably Bobby and Charles and he could do it but not too many people Bobby Ojeda go up to fort Ticonderoga figure out how to get a billion times with a cannon down here with some horses and a slip and some slides I mean you don't have much time how much money you have to hurry up and do it and Henry Knox did it crossing the Delaware Henry it's now in this ice in the river it's very dangerous we need you to get this these cannot across the river on Christmas Eve okay no problem gets a dime he was very Valley Forge he was there all the way along in order to the captain Henry Knox became secretary of war you kind of actually was did a lot of the designing of what the army was going to be like secretary of war and the Congress and then under Washington many one of the main married well one of the man had a whole bunch of land and for ten years we just kind of a land Baron who seem to agree with them and then one day you know this is the thing one day after after all that like in these canon Valley Forge crossing the Delaware and then one day he choked on a chicken bone you just never know what's the lesson and that by eat just be careful of chicken bones I guess he'd slowly all right six one seven two five four ten thirty open lines couple things rob Brooks he says Hey you know this is the twentieth anniversary of Y. two K. and of course it is of course it is member that first of all how shocking is it that was twenty years ago that is a met not not to me for a loop that kind of thing you know when we get up in age that kind of thing all knock it down I'll freak you out what did I do with my life for that twenty years what did I do twenty years do you remember what you were doing that I bet you do tell me share where what we do Y. two K. what were your party in or were you aware that we took things to do party worry did you have some sort of job or they're worried about that the the computers all crashing we I actually had a strange they had a flight booked for that night and you know what I canceled I think they let you cancel it for free because the people with that freaked out why do que where were you course you may have gone to a new year's eve party I might have worked is there a member I did work a big it's a big new year's eve party at bill's bar and I might have and then two thousand wow and I I was fortunate because I was told that if you sell it out promote and sell it out you get an extra bonus of which is the biggest bonus I ever got well pretty big I did it I got it beautiful it was a it was a night I made some money did not go is going to go to Paris so it's probably an Air France flight I just said you know what it's too weird does I can't deal I'm not going to fly when people are all worried about the planes dropping out of this guy's just doesn't seem worth it what did you do also I I got trapped on the MBTA today yet today yesterday yes did you hear about that that car that got stuck in the side in the title I was on that I'll tell you about that in extreme visit detail and there's much more for example there's that horrific accident the father said well he's a good kid I am saying if you did with the scan any kids the dead what has done with this kit is alleged to have done be a good kid if he's guilty does that they're taking you see on the news harassing he's a good kid he just made a mistake I I'm firmly go by you are what you do do bad stuff yeah not good we're not hearing the details on the in the meantime we have one of my favorite guys happy new year how we in Brookline hello how are you Hey happy new year to year and good health for the coming year and all good thanks listen I have to raise the alarm bells all the hospital China and there's two items all get the first bite on hold gland and Aaron's listening are among other things China but it it this is almost laughable but they're serious they're going to re write the Bible the Koran and all of the major search religious tax and there and the purposes of doing it is to make sure that it conforms to be virtuous socialist my dears blood of communism I mean it's it's quite possible is that sound like something out of a movie old soul now one of the most popular Chinese cultural events enjoyed by millions of Americans in this country is called Chagnon you're you're you're familiar with that that's a like a show yes it is aw and it's all free and tastic dance and I haven't been to it but I always double some friends that have been told that they do advertise it it's comp I think it's come to Boston if you translate the English it means beautiful divine dancers and it's enjoyed by many many people well the Chinese now they have thought is that they go into the other the auditoriums and they try to disrupt the whole plan I I I mean it's preposterous so now I guess the the the on the venue is our onto it so they make sure that they have extra security all but the but but it's amazing what the what's going on here so they're not only preparing now for a military confrontation by even our religious front yeah I've been reading Mets are of course one of them best newspapers that covers up like there's are the epic times newspaper up and obviously they call us stuff like this year there's other newspapers Terrel that coverage of the war it is news they they've been not covered stuff like this but are the thugs disrupting Shenyang in the U. S. yes yes they are and yes actually why these dogs are one of their beliefs are they are they just Chinese people or the Chinese government officials that are in the Chinese shar Chinese government people I don't know if they've got the users or whether they're American citizens but they have gone into a few years and they've interrupted bees on shelves you know so what are surgically posh threats but a manager and rewarding but the question Bible the Koran the the Torah hi I mean it's a something what are much science fiction movie but one there's only one way that could be good and you know what would be what made him all the same because then they it's we stop fighting are not sure who yeah that is true there is true but again you are if you do that of course can you do away with the first amendment which which is one of the things we part our nation on anyway so I don't want my help plan in there and saw a listening maybe he could charm and non on that right now so this is possible turn around the mold yeah I mean on all all all fronts absolutely yeah so why do you are you doing anything tomorrow tonight I mean what are well we'll just go celebrate quietly yeah we're getting up there in years now salt who's waiting to get the best I get to bed by eight o'clock so all watch the ball ball drop at New York the next day when I put the W. B. C. news are okay do you do any less right you have any special treats to have any a sparkling wine or do you have some candy are anything to celebrate the moment all no actually we do not work on a doll we're just gonna have Bob cake and coffee I write a little bit of tape your cake and coffee we will have a summer some dude alright starting dates are pretty well all about what we all enjoy it and a quiet moment Hey are you able to get around he able to travel well yeah I mean I where do you go to Jerusalem I think it's a great place to go all Hey listen if I hit the lottery I am definitely going to go to Jerusalem there's almost no doubt that the mouth of all of stretch the first for some comic out it's not expensive if you keep if you go online and keep track of L. out every once in a while they have a sale well the card that throws on living in Brookline housing and I don't watch every penny is also it's just not gonna happen okay well then yeah yeah okay that's great well thank you so much how he how word okay take your brother I am I am I I need to break out right wow times fly in let's take that breaks WBZ talking WBZ newsradio ten thirty music history lives on access TV celebrate with the best live concerts.
"henry knox" Discussed on WJR 760
"For good interior passing that one formally call he's one away from eighty four for two sixty seven which is there anything about wills easy lay have suggested in this game are probably a twenty four really goes to brings up and Henry Knox so format for Jones of no one left in the game twenty two on the shot clock normally call Jennifer his second have on this marvelous six a portable freshman from Dallas Texas is checking in for the first time family call nine nine point three rebounds almost double double and with that the ball goes over the head marble ten points on that one more hesitant points told so long gashes Winston Val muffins I don't know how you marble his first two again some of the system for once eighty six machine saying sixty nine to thirty four laps pardon me the Americans learning experience well I I think still games in November December are great learning experiences but this will be a tough one Jones really shine glitters along to out front air ball and trying to save Jack why did if you get a bad to level my fingers can partially blocked by children but good defense offered by the big one mission say it's got.
"henry knox" Discussed on News Radio 810 WGY
"Right now? What's next? What's history? It's what matters what's going on, on WGN y? All right. Jack winters, temperature right now seventy five and thank you seventy five four Ticonderoga p role in so many different wars Beth Beth hill is with us now from the forbath, good morning. Good to talk with you again. Good morning. Glad to be here now with the history of foredeck under Oguz started with a French, right? That's correct. French initiated the fort's construction in seventeen fifty five as part of the seven years war in Europe and the as we know the French Indian war, and, and they named it fort carry on and, and it was the southern most defense for new friends. So why did they can fluence of lake Champlain in lake George exactly strategic location, which was basically the heart of North American whoever controlled that could control the content. So we are so blessed today with such. A powerful place. And also so beautiful. I've seen it just it is it is the views gorgeous at fort Ticonderoga and let me see your now. I know Henry knocked. Well, first of all four hundred was was the, the French had for. I mean the English took it over what they had a surrender correct. That's correct. So it was controlled by the French all away until seventeen fifty nine when the British captured it and then to British held it all of angel may tenth seventeen seventy five America's first victory of the revolution. Just a month after Lexington and concord when Allen and Benedict Arnold and the Green Mountain boys captured the fort and then the Americans held it from seventeen seventy five through July seventeen seventy seven when British again, recaptured it the Americans retreated, and then met up with the British at Saratoga. Oh, I didn't realize British counter. Bet when did Henry Knox go down and take the cannon to bring it to Boston not derived, in a Ticonderoga in December of seventeen seventy five and and took the cannon from Ticonderoga as well as crown point, and then launched what we know is the noble train of artillery. He arrived in Boston in March and forced the British evacuation and today. Bostonian sell celebrated same day, Saint Patrick's Day. So it's vacuum day. This is all very cool. And you guys now are wide open for tours all kinds of things. I was looking on July third here. This looks at Colin excellent beyond bullets in play JR. Our curator Matthew, who is brilliant, and charismatic. Charismatic leads this wonderful program called beyond bulletin blades, and it's a select number of people premium program, I think, is limited to that eight participants, and we do this every week in July and August, and they are with Matthew and they are able to handle some of our regional weapons from our collection, and he talks about the artistry of developing the guns the technical advancement of the guns at that time. And it's just an absolutely singular opportunity for people who are particularly interested in the objects of the past, and the technology eighteenth century to have a once in a lifetime experience to be able to handle original weapon. The heart of so much history. What else do you have planned coming up? We are looking forward to an amazing independence day weekend, July fourth through the seventh we have more than fourteen tours going on in the day, we're bringing to life that you're seventeen seventy seven when the Americans are holding the line for liberty against British from both towards on lake Champlain all the way to the heights of mount to Vitor everyday up there incredible programs. Thrilling weapons demonstrations. We also beautiful gardens. Heritage breed animals, stork trades. I can go on and on. Is everybody to come? Visit and experience our story America's story, and, and then the other thing is, we have rare documents on display two documents that have never been on display together original documents from the summer of seventeen seventy six from John Trumbull and John Lacey. So our visitors want to come and see the words of those who are fighting for independence. We have that on display it, so powerful really is. And this is really educational event for the whole family. Correct, that's correct from visitors of all ages. We have wonderful family programs going on all day. We have it's called search for liberty and I it's for children of all ages. I think especially kids will enjoy. They'll be able to roll up their sleeves with the soldiers and learn about the fatigue duties in the activities that were required to hold Ticonderoga against the British and, and it even involves getting a reward if the children do enough of the activties alongside with the soldiers so something forever. Everybody rain or shine. We, we have so much to offer and our tickets are by one day, get the next day free. So if there's so much to do in one day, and you don't get to come back the next day, you'll love what you do. I remember talking to you last year. And it's infectious. What you do you love. What you do it really great. I think it's terrific, and it really makes people want to come out to port under Rogo who you love your job. My job and it's such an honor, and responsibility to carry our history. Our president teacher generations, and we have such a great staff and supporters from across the nation who believed delete deeply in our mission of preservation and education. And, and, and like I said, it's such a remarkable place. And so it's just a joy to be able to lead it and service. I think it's great. I think it's one of the hours now that you're open during the summer..
"henry knox" Discussed on WDRC
"And I'm really pleased to have with me recap concern, the winner of the Pulitzer prize in the author most recently of the beginning of three of three book trilogy. That's a bit redundant volume one is the British are coming. Can we talk about some of the individual figures that you Utah that you write about in this book? Let's start with Henry. Knox, who was Henry. Knox. Yeah. A captivating. Thank you. Cambridge outside Boston to take command of the new continental army twenty five year old heavily very overweight. Bookseller from Boston, Henry, Knox, appears on the scene, and he has spent some time in the local militia Tillery company, does something about gunnery and engineering. It turns out genius, then he will become the father of American artillery. Probably our most proficient combat arms in, in our long history and not among other things. Realizes that there are dozens of cannons that have been captured from the British at fort Ticonderoga on lake Champlain couple of hundred miles from Boston at that time. And in the dead of winter, seventeen seventy five seventy six off and gets those candidates Ticonderoga and nearby crown point puts them on sleds sleds and boats to bring them across the snow and ice and bring them back to two general Washington's army, and it's exactly what they need in order to have the firepower to force the British out of occupied Boston. This happens in March seventeen seventy six and Knoxville go on to become not only one of Washington's most trusted lieutenants, but one of these signals figures in our early histories later, secretary of war under president Washington, it's funny that, that you, you, you talk about a character like this. Overweight, a bookseller relatively young, it's almost like the kind of character that Hollywood would invent, and we would find on believable to say so how is how it is. You'll you'll look at a movie and say now who's going to help us win the day. I know this guy who's made his living selling books. He's only a couple of decades old, and, and he's not he doesn't cut the kind of strong Arago figure that say a general Washington does, who is not just the father of our country, but, but hugely physically capable in his day as a soldier and admired for all the right reasons, because he was like aerobic figure Henry Knox's hikes figure, but he but he makes a heroic play. Well, that's true. And he will eventually almost three hundred pounds antithesis to Washington in some respects, Washington is of us almost Sixty-two, which is enormous in those days. Thomas Jefferson, considered him the finest horsemen of his age. He was agile and very athletic. He has trade that I think are worth studying in our worth emulating traits that we looking for, in our national leaders through our history is got dignity in his probity is honest. He's is he subordinate to civilian control of the military, you kind of invents that doctrine as he's going along. He believes in a cause larger than himself subordinates his own interests as a as a planner he he's away from Vernon for eight years. You only goes back once briefly. In the whole eight years of war. I find him very admirable. I spent fifteen years with Dwight Eisenhower metaphorically in writing about World War Two and the more spent time with Eisenhower. The more film the same way about Washington. I'm talking to Rick Atkinson, who's the author of the British are coming the first three book series about the revolutionary war. Let's talk about some of the naves that you write about some of the people who are, perhaps, less than admirable. Yeah. Well, there are a lot of them because these are human beings, well, you can start with Benedict Arnold who actually is the finest combat leader on either side early in the war is a man born lead other men in the dark of night. And we see him over and over again, whether it's leading thousand answer, the main wilderness in the late fall of seventy seventy five to appear at, at the gates of Quebec when we invaded Canada or in fighting a pretty substantial British squadron on lake Champlain where. Arnold who knows how to sail out of built boats? He's been a merchant he's had his own little fleet. He commands the American squadron there and fights, gallantly and delays. The British base down into New York long enough to cause the British to pull back for the winter. He's an extraordinary combat hero. Now, of course, he's also got issues and he's got grievances. And we're going to see later in the war, when his when his general, he's been wounded twice badly wounded at Quebec is wounded, again, at Saratoga, and he doesn't feel like he's properly appreciated by the congress or by fellow Americans, and he's gonna flip sides. Famously name is now a synonym for freezing. So he's he's a very complicated. Interesting character Ford caused him to turn. You know, part of it is, he wanted money part of it was that he felt that his service to the country had really not been appreciated that other lesser had been promoted over him. And weren't given accolades and rank beyond him. There is some truth to that. He was the sort of man who accumulated enemies, his superiors tended to admire him, very much into recognize his is great skills, as a as a fighting soldier, Washington thought highly of them, for example, subordinates tended to accompany, constantly bickering with their constantly nattering at they've got issues of over the way that he enforces, his commands, he's henpecked by these small men around and it feeds his grievances. It's inexcusable. What he does is names. Be synonym for treason, because he will come back a British general and caused us. Great difficulties along Connecticut, where he was from and in Virginia. Few years ago, I spent some time on a on a Canadian ship, Canadian military ship. I haven't been in the military, but I was surprised that they had a bar on board the ship. And I thought, well, you'd never find that in the US navy, and yet, part of the detail you get into in writing this story this, I in the in the three book series about the revolutionary war is it rum played a role for our troops. Explain that. Would you please? Yeah. Well run was an important part of the diet. So on the British side, for example, a soldier was basically entitled to Jill of Rama date. That's five that's about a gallon a month. That's you're putting down some mom and alcoholism was a serious issue. One of the reasons that rum was important was because of the lack of potable water. Clean water was hard to come by. And so wrong often weakened in some way, would would be drunk with meals for the British trying to bring all that room to America to supply. The troops was an enormous sipping problem. We're talking about the hundreds of thousands of gallons of Rami year for the Americans. It's kind of part and parcel of the culture when you don't have room for the troops. Sometimes Ron was used to buck up their courage. There was a tale of. From half Agila. It was issued to troops before the battle of Princeton in January seventeen seventy seven that's the one I was thinking about, I was trying to imagine a modern American military commanders saying we're about to go into the battle, everybody have a shot or two. Yeah, just have a little nip. And then and, and some of them would sprinkled gunpowder wrong because they believe that gunpowder helped to fortify, your courage. So it's just part of the culture of..
"henry knox" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"Twelve o eight again, sunny, you're in the Senate was nice today as soon as the sun goes down. It's feels really cold. I'll get you the complete weather at the bottom of the hour. And I'm excited about tonight. Because one of my favorite guests is Robert Bob Allison, professor and chair. The proud department of history Suffolk university, Boston and USS constitution museum board of trustees member and leader of the group revenue. Fifty it's a a group that coordinates historic sites. To celebrate the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of events leading up to the American revolution doing, sir. Great. How're you doing Bradley? What the next? Events revenue to fifty events. Well, a couple of things were planning to do a series of more academic things as you're looking at underrepresented voices in the American revolution. Women African Americans native Americans ways, we can bring the scholarship that's been done on their contributions into curriculum into the broader conversation because we know about the participation of people like prince whole Phillis Wheatley native Americans who fought on both sides in the war the roles of women scholars have been working on this. How do we get this to be part of the narrative? So that's really the next step, of course, next year twenty twenty we have the Boston massacre and also there's actually legislation before the general court to create a statewide commission semi says quintennial commission. So Senator Collins and Senator Fatman who've introduced this in the Senate and Representative deal in the house decree. Create a statewide commission. Pennsylvania has created a commission South Carolina has a New Jersey is actually put half a million dollars in their budget every year to do commemoration. So Massachusetts needs to do some catching up since it really happened here. The revolution really happened here. And we're lagging behind on ways, we can commemorate this will they tap you to be involved. Oh, well, I'm willing willing to serve can hear that folks. So that'll be good because you'll have some money to work with the. That's very true. Yes. So yeah. So so we've had some really good conversations with people in the executive branch and the legislative branch about this. And we have some really good folks who are working to understand the importance of our history. Our history is something that really holds us together. And is what makes us so. And this is really our moment and people for some reason to respond to round numbers like two fifty. Yeah, we're excited about history when it's the three hundred thirteenth, but this is a special series of years next year the two hundred fiftieth of the ball. Boston massacre twenty twenty three the two hundred fiftieth of the Boston tea party. So we have these opportunities really to make these big events in twenty twenty six to commemorate evacuation day in a big way the two hundred fiftieth anniversary of the evacuation of Austin on March seventeenth of seventeen seventy six. Well, today, you agree to talk about Henry Knox, as we did cotton Mather last time, it gets all my favorite people Henry Knox's long favorite of mine because I as I shared with you he worked with cattle dragging those cannon from Conroy here. And I understand what an enormous feat. That is really was. Yeah. And he was twenty four years old. And he didn't know he had been commissioned. A Colonel in the army until after he was done. He set out in November of seventeen seventy five Washington had sent him to get the cannon. I stop in New York and see if the New York provincial, congress will loan. He can into the cause. But New York wouldn't they needed cannon to defend New York. And also they were sore because the congress hadn't paid them for things they'd already supplied. So then he goes up to fort Ticonderoga where there are about sixty pieces of artillery that had been captured when the fort was captured, and he has to arrange to get sleds and higher oxen and Esther really wait until the river freezes and there's enough snow on the ground to pull these cannon across the berkshires through major feet. He and his brothers brothers nineteen years old. They set out to do this, you know, hiring having the sledge built. And he thought it would take about two weeks. He writes to Washington in mid-december that by January first, I am going to deliver a noble train of artillery, and it takes him actually until mid-february to get the cannon across the perks. You it's a big deal. Let's. Like elephants across the Alps type of thing. Exactly. It is it really is a nominal using. Now, it's in some stretches these horses. But really is these oxen these really heavy animals were able to pull these enormous weights each cannon weighed as much as the offensive line of the New England Patriots. So you can picture how heavy each one was how many what does that impounds? That's about a ton a little over two thousand pounds or something like that. How many did he have he had fifty nine range different sizes so fifty nine and having to build a actually they're also getting across they're they have to cross the Hudson river four times to get between, you know, lake George as it's meandering is me because it's looping around this looping around safety and at one point the cannon actually falls through the ice. And the men have to dive down tyrod around it and haul it out in the winter in the winter. Okay. So we got the general gist of this. We're going to find. Out about the man's backup the way way back machine to when I was a kid. I guess Kelly's you want to go as long as early as this relevant to go. Okay. So he's born in Boston and his father apparently had a drinking problem. We know where it was born can you go visit the houses, it wasn't a house no longer. So there is a marker on the site is near south station. Okay. And he also had a bookshop somewhere at Cornhill, which is Washington street and somewhere in the general area of the old state house. He he's sent to the Latin school and after about a year because his father had abandoned the family he has to leave school, and he's nine years old and his apprentice to a bookseller stationery store and by the time he's in his early twenties. He has borrowed money to buy the business. You know where that is? That was also in the area around the old state house hill Cornhill somewhere probably near pie alley where. All the other printing buildings were. Yes. So that's where exactly between pie alley and between city hall plaza. And in fact, one of the buildings on city hall plaza still as a scientist Cornhill, okay? The name of that stretch of Washington street named for Cornhill in London. But Henry Knox had the London bookshop, and it became kind of hang out for people interested in military affairs because he carried a lot of books on military science. So some of the people who came to shop were British officers who are interested in this. And so they would hang out in doubting on military stuff. Yeah. Some people say that this was really the first military academy. And also other people who were leaders in colonial militia, like Nathaniel Greene came up from Rhode Island to and would go to this bookshop and knocks also studied books of military science or he only had a couple of years of formal education at Boston Latin Boston to leave at elite. Okay. And then he Latin does claim him as an alum. In fact, if you go into their auditorium were the names of lustrous alumni around. The see around or the upper wall and Henry Knox is there along with Benjamin Franklin, and wow, they'll claim you even if you don't graduate. If you do something notable. So knock runs this book shop, and he also is a volunteer. He has a he's part of a an artillery company, a militia artillery company and one is twenty four th birthday. I think it was he was out hunting and Boston Harbor in a little rowboat, and he shoots off a couple of fingers of his of his hand, and he bandages it up to stop the bleeding rose himself back to shore and goes to his doctors doctor Joseph Warren have this tended to and so there he is with his damaged hand, and he's no longer in the artillery company, but he's marching in a parade. And he catches the eye of a young woman named Lucy flicker and Lucy flickers father was the secretary of the province. He's a big loyalist. And wow. A small world there. You could catch the eye of an important person. Does his coincidental? Well, she then start hanging out at the bookshop too. And she is really a she and Henry wind up getting married. She's about eighteen he is twenty four and the family. Her family is not happy about her marrying this guy and who's not only does he seem like he's not headed anywhere to them. He's a patriot. He's on the opposite political side. And so Henry and Lucy, though, do get married at about the same time as he is planning a four it rocks. The high high hill in Roxbury till in Roxbury knocks designs this four overseas. Its construction doing this really is a volunteer. There are this is around the time of Lexington and concord the British are occupying Boston big battle in Lexington. And concord than the continental army, actually militia troops, surround boss. Sten an arc from Roxbury to Cambridge and knocks designs this fort in the event we ever get artillery. This would prevent the British from leaving Boston dishonest mind for a long time. Is that this at this point? He's about Twenty-three. Can we go back to when he was a kid and what kind of kid he was like, I understood he's kind of a street tough enough kid. Yeah. He is. He was in the in the hanging around for the Boston massacre. Right. He was hanging. Right. He was he's on the scene as these kids are attacking the century. And he is telling the kids to leave the century alone. But also telling the soldiers not to fire that is he's a very good witness to this because he's objective is definitely not on the side of the British soldiers. But he is a witness to what happens here, and he does tell the soldiers they should get off the street. He tells the kids they should get off the street, and he is quite alarmed at what he sees is seen. So I'm causing it to jump back and forth. That's my fault. We go to break and continue talking about Henry Knox. After this. Busy. Talk radio. Jay. WBZ NewsRadio ten thirty eight. Do you? 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"henry knox" Discussed on Let's Get Civical
"I'll quickly say who George Washington's cabinet wise ease. So George Washington as we all know, I president of the United States lovely man, he had four advisory people for cabinet positions. And they in these four cabinet positions where the first original four cabinet positions. And they were created for these men. So first of all you have Thomas Jefferson TJ as I call him. He was our secretary of state I one ever next we have Alexander Hamilton heard of him. Hamilton joke. All you Broadway fans. He was our first secretary of treasury. Then then we had Henry Knox who was the secretary of war and rounding out is Edmund Randolph who I don't I don't personally, but he was our first attorney general. So there's there's a couple of interesting things that I wanna point out about these first four for gentlemen, number one being Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, literally hated each other. Why I'll tell you please Thomas Jefferson was an anti-federalist in Alexander. Hamilton was a federal est- duly remember that lesson so Alexander Hamilton was like, I wanna create a very centralized government with you guessed it, a Bank why I'm secretary of treasury. How can I have treasure without banks and Thomas Jefferson was like, look, I'm secretary of state. I'm anti-federalist I don't want government anywhere near me away. I want I want the states to decide everything about me. And they fought literally all the time, isn't that? Crazy. And then and then, you know, I mean, Henry Knox and Edmund. I don't know. It's interesting to me that it's like secretary of state secretary of Treasury Secretary of war all three of those make sense to me. Right. But then like an attorney general I think because they needed somebody who because they clearly needed to astonish courts that they needed somebody who would be like a Representative to the courts, whatever they turn out to be than so it would make sense that they would have somebody who would need to be like the federal appointee. And like a. We have like eight laws total, you know, and like to have somebody who's like, I don't know over like, I guess the attorney general isn't a lawyer, right? Or is it like a lawyer, generally? Yeah. Attorney generally. Did you read the new? New York crushing today. So. Really is mental like be a lawyer for the United States, right? Just like glory. You are you lawyering? What were you learning? Those eight laws like the eight laws the laws that we have. Yeah. So those I mean, those four boys that's always started. We started with and then James Madison. Oh, right. Sweetjames sweetjames. I mean, he what I love it. Because James Madison why she brought up James Madison this 'cause he coined the term presidential cabinet. And I don't know why or how. But I just like I imagined James Madison walked into a mating with these four gentlemen, and like, George, you know, and was like he's like my cabinets. He's like my mahogany doors at home. Oh, george. These are your candidates. I know that's not what happened. But you know, there was like, but not not what happens. It's not not what happened. I wouldn't put it past them to be like enemy dating with, you know, buckets of AOL talking about but laws talking about eight laws that they have they have in the jobs that they had. And they're like we need a name because we have to have. Yeah. All all good. Like groups of bands have a good name. And honestly, George the Georgia. It's taken so. Yeah. So we're going to be guys presidential group presidential advisers presidential committee, presidential you know, menagerie which honestly is better. I would love a presidential menagerie. That is what it feels like we have when I'm president. That's what I'm calling. Okay. Great, everybody, take note of that shirts. Now make them now the presidential menagerie. But yeah, the fact that he was just like they were like, oh, I know, right. We're a cabinet. Cool. So then they added some other positions over the years because you know, not enough for was not enough. We were growing were growing..
"henry knox" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"Are they gonna come all the way to Pittsburgh, which was sort of the western the western frontier edge or they're gonna burn Pittsburgh down and kill everyone there. I mean, how far how far back is the frontier gonna be pushed this was a this was and people had family and friends living out there trying to live out there. And then there was the the the development group, the the the owners really have a lot of that land speculators in that land who thought of selves as its owners who were who were among the elites who were deeply committed to defending those investments. And so there was there were multitude of factors which I get into. But you some very droid and tough politicking the Washington administration pushed through congress, partly by using public opinion. Partly by. By manipulating congress into situations in which it would just look at looked politically inexpedient not to vote the way the administration wanted congress vote. I mean, good old American, you know, politics and should add that in the administration at the time. We're Hamilton, of course, and also Jefferson who we rightly see as bitter enemies, and they certainly did hate each other's guts at that time. However, they worked together as Washington subordinates on this project with Henry Knox as well. To bring about the the political matching nations some open and some back room that that got the the army Bill passed through the house, and then Washington made some some other deals with senators to get it through the Senate and not very long after that horrible feet. We did indeed have the first United States professional National United states army. I mean, I gotta say as you going through the varied agendas. Behind this. Right. This pre existing desire to have a standing army and all that that implies of both from a defensive standpoint. But also from an expansive standpoint, the pre existing financial incentives, and then the sort of like, the the the jenning up arguably, maybe not jenning up, but it sounds like it of fears of you know, if we don't get them there. We gotta fight them here. I mean, it sounds very reminiscent of the build up to the Iraq war to probably many other of our conflicts that this stuff is. I mean is it that and maybe I'm wrong in that assessment? And you'll tell me, but if I'm right is it that these dynamics are basically eternal, or is it that these. Damn ix. Seemed to be eternal at least in the context of American history. Because this was what this was the pattern that we got in at the beginning. Yeah. These nam IX our original in American history. I think that's I think that's a lesson of of this of looking at this period, and this war that nobody ever looks at this first war we ever fought whether they're eternal. Meaning like are we going to be bound by such issues forever in the future? Because we began this way. I wouldn't wanna say that. From. Going to happen with these. Nature or was it simply like, you know, we got this is the way the country was founded, you know, at very, you know, if we look at you know, there's a lot of things locked in for people around the ages of three or four and five. And and and it's as if like this is what happened when we were in preschool and in kindergarten, and you know, as adults we still function the same way as a as a nation. Yeah. I do see this as sort of embryonic, and that sense and baked in pretty, you know, baked in pretty early all the all the dynamics were talking about the everything you just went through those seem to me. So, you know, so reminiscent of or going the other way sort of potentially predictive of some of the issues around getting into at Phnom and some of the around getting into Iraq, a lot of the of the rhetoric a lot of the combinations of as you've said Jiting, which is absolutely was part of was part of the tax. Nick people having pre existing agendas, which then get fulfilled in in in conditions of crisis being able to sort of try to drag congress kicking and screaming through a series of states of emergency..