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GoodFellas (1990)

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45:35 min | 9 months ago

GoodFellas (1990)

"Never read on your friends and always keeping much as far back as I can remember. I always wanted to be a gangster. What do you think? He's like a gangster Noah. By the time I grew up there was thirty. Billion a year and cargo moving through IDA awhile. Airport believe we tried to steal every bit of it construction. These Jewish marvel talk the most of the guys killings got to be accepted up very funny. Gosh like wink. It is This is Kathy. We'll come back to another episode of culturing where we talk about. We were talking about pop pop culture tech about movies and TV shows. That's what I meant. Wow all over the place here there we go. We'll technical glitch. She just wanted to hear a little bit more from from. Henry is going to be a good summer. There's even a montage of Henry laughing on Youtube. Well that's like something I wanted to talk about with this movie Or as Tommy calls them Henry Henry. Henry is to meet you Henry the way that Ray Liotta and the way. Hey that Robert Deniro laugh in. This movie is like so meam ready. Like what's the what's it's so over the top. I think it's infectious. Che's though to cracks me up. We laughed every time. So this movie is Goodfellas so what is your history with. Could you remember when you first saw. Remember who. You're with breath no I. I saw it in the theater and I don't know I don't think I did. I think I saw it on. DVD or a or a tape. My Dad took me to it. So how old you. Let's see nine thousand nine hundred ninety so it was eighteen. You're eighteen no I did not see it at eighteen. I don't think so it kind of I kinda you think of Goodfellas. As being one of those gen-x movies that we all saw it became common uh-huh quotes from the movie or just understanding what happened in the movie was part of being our age. Budget was twenty five million which seems light. Yeah does for today's Day and it grows forty six million which seems light also like this. What was that for the year? Like you mean. Where did it plays compared to other movies? I guess that's relative to me like what was that good for that year. I have no idea just seems like you know lake. Whatever all these big hits now make hundreds of millions of dollars in affected? This made a measly forty six to seems you know. It's regarded as one of the. I think the better movies ever made. This gets into a very interesting discussion. I don't WanNa get too far off a good fellows but you know that Martin Scorsese is like in the middle of of we would call a cultural conversation regarding whether or not marvel movies are real movie. Coppola weigh in on the t shirt. Did so two things happened number. One Scorsese was doing it. Do you say Scorsese or do you. Say Scorsese Scorsese okay. So Scorsese was doing an interview. He had a brief comment about about. He didn't think marvel movies were true. Cinema it was this whole long article but that was the only thing that went viral so then he went back and did a Washington Post opinion piece to explain. Explain what I meant and I read it and basically he was just saying that it doesn't have to him. Cinema is going into a place where you don't know what's going to happen you don't know what the outcome's going to be. You're going to be surprised. There's an element of taps into the humanity of people. The darkness all that kind and if stuff and marvel you know relatively speaking I mean when you're directing these actors type Tom. No I think the the cinematic experience experience. Like if you're going into a marble fluidity to what might curl asshole and he used a lot of examples like hitchcock movies. The reason people into hitchcock movies is because you didn't know where you're going. You had no idea where you're going to be left and it's much more. It's a long article so I I just couldn't and do it justice but there are a lot of people that you know it was obviously up on twitter and a lot of people reposted a Lotta actors and actresses directors and said. Yes this now. I don't really. We have a comment on whether or not I think what I'm commenting on is the fact that what you're talking about is how much money a movie make whereas there was a time that every What they're not called producers? They're the ones who put out the movies. What what is that called the the company that you go to that like markets the movie for You Kind of like the twenty first century others. All that promoter. Whatever they're called that they would always do movies like goodfellas? They would always have a movie like life of Pi. They would always have a movie like something that it wasn't like a big shoot 'em up fast and furious kind of movie. They had just regular movies and that as we know is no longer really happening in the movie theater and I blame ourselves of course going to see them and television has come back in vogue where you can do that. In Scorsese even says in his Washington Post opinion piece. I'm now part of it because the Irishman which is coming out this year I think in December is going to Air or not air. It is going to be on the big screen for a couple of weeks and then it's on Netflix. Netflix is the one who gave him money. so He's like now. I'm in a two but let's not pretend hand. Are we going to go. See the Irishman yes theater. It's these three guys that we love well Pacino's not in goodfellas bio he's not. I heard that he got offered one of the roles. I don't know his job conway or something but anyway so these are the Academy award nominees that this pitcher got best pitcher director best film editing best adapted screenplay best best supporting actor Joe Pesci. I'm best supporting actress. Lorraine bracco which of those do think Deniro didn't win I know who won. She won and yes. That's right. She did win he Dan I was going to play. I don't know if I could find. I was gonNA plays acceptance speeches just kind of funny. Maybe I'll try to find it. And here's what came out for the best movie. Wolves Awakenings Ghost Godfather part three and Goodfellas. Same again dances with wolves. Dances with wolves awakenings Ghost Ghost Godfather part three and Goodfellas. I'm shocked Godfather. Part three in there Dances with wolves one. Correct and Kevin. Costner won best director. This he did so oh goodfellas did not win. That choice dances with wolves a hundred thousand percent. That's one of my favorites. A lot of percents we well. All those movies were a good godfather three. I'm not sure about but the GOODFELLAS is awakenings. Also had deniro in it and I liked stat. People I've heard people kind of that movie now in hindsight but I liked it at the time Robin Williams already here. Gop She's acceptance behavior. It was my privilege. Thank you you know what I don't remember what award it shows. We're going on in one thousand nine hundred ninety but by the time somebody gets to the Oscars. Sometimes those people have won like five awards. They've done a Golden Globe Sag. They've won maybe we'll apparently he's he did that because he didn't think he was GONNA win. Which always drives me nuts when there is no way I was going to win right? You're you're one of five. You may be the underdog but but I love the fact that it was short now some people may thought like Oh what kind kind of a jerk. But I bet he spoke at the. I'm sure he won a golden globe. Sag and I'm sure he spoke very eloquently then or said something funny But yeah now I I get that not everybody can be nominated. And sometimes they're nominated for specific scenes or a body body of work that they've had over their lifetime but ray liotta 's awesome in this movie and he was cast interesting because he wasn't I don't know if it was. It's hard to work with. I think maybe after this movie I don't I don't remember Ray Liotta before this. Of course ideal. He was in field of dreams. You see what US okay. And he was also A. What's it called with Melanie Griffith and something wild. Yes say. Flap Jeff Daniels. Yes but anyways I thought Liotta uh he kind of tied the whole movie together. Oh Yeah and that young version Asia him of Henry looks just like him sued. His name is Henry Henry and young Henry to meet you Henry I don't know what his name was. Sorry to the actor did it They had to put in colored contacts. I was wondering because Ray Liotta has such blue eyes. He was really good too. It was really subtle version of Henry. So I I guess just one step backwards. It's weird that we're doing this like violent. It's so weird like this is such a movie where there's not a lot of redeeming characters senate and usually movies that we do either makes us laugh or there's redemption in one way shape or form and this one. It's just a really good movie with a lot of bad people. You know what there isn't a center is there doesn't seem like there isn't a center because even Henry's Dad beats the crap out of them so even though he's not in this world of gangsters he's not a great example speaking of this. What do you mean media can make it in? We're delivers you're gonNA fuck everything up is gonNA kill me look was it. nope okay the notice you you know where he lives. Deliver mail was house for now on any letter from that school tonight. Kids House comes directly. Here you understand for another letter letter from that school. They're beating up the mailman. I just don't know like I know. This is like in the fifties but there the parents sir eventually gonNA find out. I don't give a narration right after that Henry says you know not only did those letters not combat are male stop coming. My mom had to go the post office so eventually fix I I know and you know. And maybe that's the whole point is that they didn't have anything but violence let's to offer. I guess so. I think it makes the point. So let's discuss why we're doing this movie because you're right I would if goodfellas came out today. Hey I don't know if I would go see it. I think this was a time. First of all of Scorsese. Do you know what I mean like you. It was one of the best pictures it was the way it was filmed. You talked to a lot of filmmakers. Who came after this movie and they use it as a like a role model? What's the word? I'm all for Dole. Some swingers exactly from him and There's a bunch of stuff exactly so it's this is I think what he's talking about. When he's talking about cinema Israel way that it was filmed the way that he uses music in this movie like there is is a scene that is so uncomfortable to there's so many scenes in this movie that are uncomfortable but the one that's most uncomfortable is the guy who got his wife the pink car and then Jimmy? Who is Robert Deniro? Realizes that these guys in his crew who did did this big heist are not going to be able to keep it quiet even either by their behavior or by who they talked to so you you see the scene where Leyla is playing isn't Leyla. I don't remember it's the it's the the I want you to play. It's with the pink Cadillac right correct and the pink Cadillac and both the guy and his wife have been shot and they are just sitting in the Cadillac and this song is playing and this is the whole point. It's so uncomfortable yet. We're watching it when Jimmy just starts killing everybody yes but that seems specifically typically because of the song that's playing. It's kind of the theme. That comes after Layla. The Piano Jimmy was cutting every link between himself and robbery. But it had nothing to do with me. The all parties should go with is that is that Leyla. Yeah okay. That's interesting is. That's the middle of the Song Leila. Well that's what I mean is like it's so discombobulating ovulating and what we're being forced to look at is so horrible. The Guy Hanging in the meat locker the guy in the garbage truck in the the couple in the pink Cadillac and I think that that one thing that goes sese is known for or what I've heard a lot of other directors talk about maybe even Quentin Tarantino is the ability to film something violent with humor or or that music music that kind of modulate your experience with it. Sure and so you can look at it but I'm not saying that's a good thing I'm just saying it's an interesting filming technique and it works really well. Yeah yes not even think. I'd like the Song Wheel until the movie came out. Yeah and then. I'm like they do now like this wasn't my thing. What about the beginning of that song? It's the best opening riff of any song really. Yes no no way no way wait yes sweetie and you know what the second best opening my heart till. Dr Feelgood but Layla is as I could find the unplugged version. I don't think you want that. I don't there's got to be go on Youtube or something. There's gotta be them. How do they not have the original? uh-huh yeah pretty good Clapton. He's kind of good at what he does. I'm so I WANNA play one of the more famous scenes from the movie and then ask a quick question. That's bad the talk. Did you know you just funny. It's wait till the story funny. HOW FUNNY FROM UTAH? Hello Anthony. He's a big boy knows what he said. What did you say funny? How what just you're funny? You mean so let me understand this. Maybe it's mammal of fucked up. Maybe funny how funny like I'm a clown view. I make you laugh. I'm here to fucking can amuse you. What do you mean funny funny? How funny just you tell the story? No no no no no you said how do I know you sit funny how to fuck am I funny. What thought fuck this funny about me? Tell me tell me what's funny kitts. Fuck Tommy the first of all. That's hilarious. I can listen to that scene now because I've listened to it so many times that I I love it's resolution so I'm willing to sit through that you'll come the first time. Yeah was hard one. Apparently Scorsese didn't Scorsese. Didn't tell the other actors what was happening opening which I don't who knows if that's that's what I heard. And then he came up with idea because Peci told them that this happened to him. Now my here's my big question. Even though Henry Henry Henry was selling cigarettes with Tommy when they're little kids right and I assume that the Tommy from before is the Tommy Alley uh-huh they are like good friend correct from like decades correct. I don't buy it. I don't buy that that that Henry you Henry would be scared and that Tommy would do this to his good friend but that's not what happened. The tension is is about uh-huh uh-huh watching it. Look at what Liotta does he says. No this is not real knows but no he hendry Hendry Ray Liotta Henry. We're confuse everybody There is a moment in that uncomfortable. Silence where he's like. I don't even know why you're doing this. I know but I okay. I agree with you like what you're trying to say is widely right but todd Jimmy. You just killed four of his buddies and throw them in a meat locker. I just shipped. We're talking about. I don't know I just don't find. I think that that's seen serves serves for a few things number one. The the release that we get that Henry says. Get Out of here I know you're messing with me. And the fact Tommy right away like that's all you had to do. You just had to know me. He's kind of like testing them and he's trying to make everybody else uncomfortable. Trouble like your right. Henry's uncomfortable at first because I think he's trying to figure out does he. Is he misunderstanding. What I said forgotten who I am right but the resolution I love it is more important than those couple of minutes of discomfort is that you realize they do know each other well? I also think it's really important character development events scene for Tommy because even though you get to see a million other times what a hot head he is and that's not even a strong enough. You know killer. He's horrible Horrible horrors the psychopath. WHO's the most sane person in this movie gotTa be Karen Right I was GONNA say I hate to say it's Karen even though she gets all coked up up and at the end I think Karen Karen gives in to the inevitable? She kind of I was watching it and kind of thinking about her compared to Sopranos What's her name? I don't know but I'll say phony and we gotta we can't can't just leave it out there or poor brains. Well I mean I can remember her car but I can't remember her name. Tony Soprano her you find it for me so I don't have to do two things at once. I was thinking about how if you because. Because here's the thing she says. There's a scene in the movie where Ray Liotta kind of kicks the crap out of a guy with the butt of a gun because he attacked Karen and he comes back to. Karen enhance her the gun and says hide this and she her narration is. That's the point when you run. Dr Jennifer Melfi. No it's not Melfi. I'm not talking about Lorraine BRACCO. I'm talking about the the wife. I'm talking about Tony's wife what's her name. Oh Carmella thank you. I'm not talking about Malcolm. I yeah what I meant is when you are the wife of a gangster got it. Yeah what happens happen exactly and you kind of pretend and so again. Let me finish. What I just said is he gives her the gun? She says that's when you run but it actually actually turned me on She liked the power she in the opening scene after after they get married. That's when she meets all the wives and the Mary Shen is fascinating because she's like they don't even dress. Well they beat beat up they look dead-eyed and she's looking around going. This is my future but she accepts it because of whatever she I mean. I don't see there's one part she doesn't accept father never stayed out all stay out. Daddy never went out at all. Get Out of it. You don't know how I feel bill. How do you feel now? You don't know where he is. You don't know who he's with. He's there's enough hasn't been able to digest a decent meal in six weeks. You why did you call. Aw whereas we will worry a married man does not stay out like this love the scene because he just leaves shut normal shift the Tommy. That's hilarious scene. Because he even say anything. He's like totally like drunk. Hung over the same time. It's like six. AM principle Chris. Vol- what are these three grownups doing waiting for this adult man to come home well other than to just. Why are Henry and Karen living with her parents? I was another one of my questions. If he's a fancy gangster Mr. I don't think he had made his big money yet really. Yeah because that kind of I think he had the power meaning that people were afraid of them but I think his big money. We came from drugs. They stole everything a time where he got their money. I know I know how they got their money but winded their life. Start to change because I know drugs was there any moment where they hit it big. They just kept stealing and stealing and Paul the the longer they did it polly gave them gave them more money. And and everything else. Yeah Paulie is like really charge. You know something speaking of Sopranos Something Todd and I noticed in this viewing was that the scene with the mailman that you played aide the guy holding them as Paulie walnuts. Oh yeah that's right. Yeah and we're like hey policies that are you know that at this time or like nineties in the two thousands thousands like the same guys. We're getting cast in all these gangster movies so I don't WanNa get too far off goodfellas but talking about why this movie is so big for our generation there was goodfellas and obviously we're coming off of Godfather. That was kind of our parents that we got into so we were already in that mindset of being interested did in mobsters and gangsters and then there was casino which was obviously a different setting but it was way too similar to Goodfellas and I I didn't like Casino I did. I like stories that are told over a long period of time like that. I like seeing their evolution. It like legends of the fall. Like where you Kinda replaces the pieces pieces where you're like okay. You see them and casinos. HEART-WRENCHING GOODFELLAS is heart-wrenching. But I have a separation between myself as an easier watching you know why for me Sharon stone because she is having the experience that I think we're supposed to be related later. James Woods is so awful to our and he's but she loves you and just the whole so bad so you're kind of pulled into the emotion by her wearing goodfellas. There's nobody identified with. There's nobody that I was like super polling four. I was bombed about Tommy. I The the first time I saw it. I was bumped into results bummed as I was sad for Robert Deniro and when he started crying Jimmy at the scene where he I was wonder that scene when he slams the phone again if that was him. Don't you always wonder what Deniro like is that. What is that? His natural response. He went went from sewing. Yes or joy joy to anger to sadness all within thirty seconds totally and speaking speaking of masculinity and toxic masculinity and healthy masculinity. This is just an example of how respect we talked to Rosalind. On's and parenting are other. podcasts Rosalyn Wiseman and amongst boys the currency of of social climbing is respect correct also. It's also a comedy laughter. The funny you are the higher you are right Latin but this is an example of how respect is so important in this hyper for masculine whirl. We'll get into big on me. Busting my book billy. Okay Tom if I was GONNA break your bullets go home and get your shine box. The kid is used to calm spitzer income suede shoes fucking mirrors. Excuse is my language. He was terrific. He was the best he made a lot of money too. So armee emotions billy but I said no more shines. Maybe you didn't hear Bhatty been way long time. They didn't go up there and say shoes any more relaxed reaffirmed credits. What's what's coming to you? I'm breaking your balls a little bit. That's all I'm only kidding. which so you don't sound like you're kidding? You know there's a lot of people right. I mean I'm only kidding which having a party I just came home. I haven't seen you in a long time and I'm breaking your balls and you know what you're getting fucking. I'm sorry the number of venue. I'm sorry go home and get your fucking shambaugh. Oh every type of watching it see and I'm like just stop talking after salute and Billy thinks that that he's immune because he's a made he is immune right or he's supposed to be He's supposed to be me and Tommy break the rules right and I don't understand. Why Jimmy does that for Tommy like I guess he doesn't have a choice? Once Tommy goes crate. No he comes back and gets billy because in that moment they pull them Atari says keep him here. Yes billy just like whatever. I'll stay here the whole time because I'm a made guy and I'm immune and then all of a sudden you know they killa column. Jimmy's in on it though. And what's interesting is Henry is a kind of like a neutral comparatively speaking calm guy guy like when they're beating the crap billy he's just on the side bright looking and when they're putting Thomas putting the knife into Billy's Guy Robert Deniro shoots him horrible scene. Henry's just sitting there like the only time we see Henry going crazy is when he beats that guy Panned on Karen and Karen Erin. Yeah those are the two moments but anyway. I just WanNa play that like all. You know the minute that he's disrespected in such a public fashion Ashley like eight people at the small barking. Your he's done that's a well again. Tommy is a sociopath. I feel you know what I mean. Like he doesn't have empathy for other people. He the this is why Scorsese movies are so interesting because you do get to meet his mother and he loves his MOM. His mom is like oblivious to what's going on in his world but he does not have have a sense obviously none of them have a sense of what's right and wrong or they do and they don't care I feel like they Really otas narration is good about that when he's it's the younger Ray Liotta earlier in the movie when he's saying you know we we. It was just the way it was. We didn't even think about it like it's kind of like growing up with something where it's what you see every day so you're not questioning is the C.. Legal it's just what we do. I'm not saying that's an excuse. I'm just saying he the the writings really well done. Yeah Tommy I mean th that to me is more uncomfortable than the clowns seen It's all so was billy in prison and and let's say they didn't say but yeah obviously it didn't go well. It was interesting in Casino. Billy batts the the actor who played billy batts ended ended up killing Joe Patchy so the tables were turned and they beat they killed Joe Patchy by literally beating him with a baseball bat until he died. Bats Billy Batts. Oh Yeah so little like. What did we call those Easter egg for? People who love Scorsese movies. Yeah and if you really listen to what billy says before he says the last go get your shine box. He's actually just telling a story. Which is the kid did great shines? He made a lot of money. He there's a if Joe Patchy if it was Henry that he was breaking his balls as they say. I don't think that would have happened. It was just because of WHO. Is Tommy so many scenes. I WANNA play but I this is one of the hardest for me. Okay this is Karen Hill the fertile. Hello don't hang up on me I want to talk to you. You keep away from my husband in this building. Gotten nothing to superintendent. Yes I want you to know Jeff. The reason it's heartbreaking is because she has her two kids with their sitting there listening to the whole thing. The kids kids are around in that moment when she's holding a gun on I mean they don't I don't know if they see her gun but when she's got a gun pointed at Henry while he's asleep and then he turns gone on her and like kind of kicks off the bed and their kids are watching all of that. I think Karen's angers a little misdirected. Oh honey I I mean come on. Of course of course. I'd never made any sense to me whenever anybody goes after the per- like let's say you're partners cheating and you get mad at the other party. But he now yes you do understand that because imagine. I don't want you imagine it with me but like imagine you're younger and you're dating somebody and then she ends up with another guy. You WanNa kill that other guy not literally kill. I'm not talking goodfellas. I'm talking like you get mad at the other guy now. I'm not saying that's right. Obviously if this was then parenting radio talk about that being super misdirected but this is always what ends up happening unless you are super self aware fair and recognize that other person is just has nothing to do with that really the choice to go with. Somebody else is about your relationship. And if you're going to try to scare that Third Person Henry is going to go find another girl of course but she's Karen is not the sharpest tool. I'm speaking rationally. Yeah that's not I mean this is. She chose to go into this marriage and she knows what's going on. He doesn't come home for days and and again I'm not this. Is it so hard to talk about because obviously it's not okay and obviously Karen has every right to be angry and obviously Henry is the one who's wrong but she also came into a system that is set up that girlfriends on Friday night or is it girlfriends on Saturday night I think girlfriends are Fridays girlfriends on Friday night. Guga's NBA's on Friday night wives on on Saturday night and that's the system and maybe she didn't know all of these specifics. But in their first week of marriage he was not coming home. Yeah so this is not like a shock so to your point yes it's Janice Rossi in two are so I'm going to rip through a few of these questions. I don't expect you to know the answer Richard but these are some of the things that came to me as watching. Why wasn't Henry in on the Luzon let Latonya Heist? I don't know if he's in on all the others. I don't get it Somebody knows the answer that. Shoot me an email okay. Todd he'd be in a meat locker if he wanted his. Jimmy say forget about tonight when he says to Henry that he's going to kill Mori story and then he's like forget about tonight ends up killing him anyways. I think he knows the Henry's not up for Gets Tommy to do it. I just love the part. Where Jimmy's he's crying after he finds out Tommy dies in? Henry doesn't know how to console. It's so yeah. He likes petty like a pet on. This is a question. Should I think everybody has was Jimmy. Really GonNa Kill Karen I think so. I think that I think he deliberately Scorsese. Delivery believes that Oklahoma for interpretation. You think he was if you are in Karen's mindset which is being paranoid which as you can see when she comes back home had and he's he's like where have you been then of course and Jimmy. Has I mean. We know that Jimmy has demonstrated that he's willing to hurt his friends. And we know that I think a scene after that or a scene before that he asks Henry to do something for him in Florida. Florida and Henry knows that if he goes there he's not gonNA survive. So I think yes Karen and Henry. He really bonded at the end of the movie. Do you mean when they're really rocky marriage. And then the minute world went to crap. They loved each other again until they got divorced in real life. They got divorced right well. Do you think they loved each other or they were trying to survive. I mean maybe they loved. I think it's a good point. I think they were in survival. Because if you remember correctly when she's with that prosecutor or defense guy who's like he was the real guy right the guy that they're talking to he was the real guy who actually prosecuted had Henry He. She's like they want him not me and he's like Karen Karen. I've heard all the all the tapes. Yeah Yeah So. She's is willing to throw Henry under the bus Intel. She realizes they've got everything on her too. So as we wind down this podcast house as we got just a few minutes left I wanNA talk about the ending. Okay over a weekend and then I need to blow the winnings in a week or go to the sharks payback. The bookies didn't matter sadder didn't mean anything when I was broke over go out and rob some more be ran. Everything paid off COBB's we paid off lawyers. We paid off judges. Everybody had their hands out. Everything was for the taking and now it's all over. That's the hardest part today. Everything is different. There's no action after wait around like everyone else can't even get decent food right after I got here. I ordered some spaghetti with Marinara sauce on I got egg noodles and catch up on average. Nobody we'll get to live the rest of my life like Schmuck it. Do you remember whose version of my way. This is the voice. I have it written somewhere. 'cause I guess an entre did I don't know if it's not alive. But they didn't want to give him rights. So then Scorsese bought the rights to the torsion. So I just don't I don't know if there's any good way to end this movie but I just felt like on fulfilled first of all. Why does Z.? Break the fourth wall in the last scene in the movie and it just didn't. It seemed weird to me. What did you think said vicious? When did you what did you think about him? Like looking at the camera I was it was over. Yeah I mean did he not break. He was breaking the fourth wall through the whole movie he was talking two US he was near right long. Never looked at the camera. I guess what I mean. Is You feel his presence narrating the whole time I know that maybe. That's we've talked about this before. About what the true definition of the fourth wall is but he was He you know he was talking to the whole time anyway so I was fine with it. I thought it was a sad ending because he would never no matter what he had he his his system had been created for something completely. Different like to believe that Henry Hill was gonna go completely straight is. It's ridiculous like wasn't he like Howard Stern. He was on Howard Stern. I think he has died. So a few random facts latonya heights was solved in two thousand fourteen. Most surviving arriving members were arrested. So Jimmy was arrested with. Jimmy was arrested because of Henry's testimony. Oh we're talking what you're talking about. Different twenty four years later. Oh my God that's what it said. Now this is just what I read on the Internet. Jimmy Burke on whom Jimmy Conway Conway's base would have been eligible for parole in two thousand four. He died of lung cancer. Nineteen ninety-six while still in prison What a little girl who plays Henry and Cairns daughters is learning Broccoli's daughter with Harvey Keitel? Yes they were married annoyed. Yes later in life of Henry Hill after he enters a witness protect. Oh we talked about about Oh he enters a witness witness protection program was also adapted more humorously into my blue heaven the same year appropriate appropriately. That film was written by Nora Ephron. Who's Nicholas polite plugs? Wife who I think was one of the directors or screenplay I think he worked with Scorsese. Yeah my Blue Heaven Sweetie tell me coming in one andrus view to be here in the frozen food section because you could mel all this stuff shanti shopping uh-huh extra-special extra special. You are extra special. Todd is the finding his name they could give him always it's always time In the DVD commentary for two film Henry Henry Hill said that he still has nightmares about when he tommy. and Jimmy Murdered Billy Batts. Oh it's horrible. Awful Robert Deniro offered either the role of Jimmy the Gent Conway Tommy he chose lose. Jimi the Jet Scorsese originally wanted us. Frank Sinatra's version of my way however Sinatra would not allow skirts. AC to acquire the rights to his version of song. So you said vicious Henry Hill convicted of another crime eventually spent fourteen years in prison after getting his immunity. Yeah that's what I thought. I thought he went well and the thing is what where would he have learned like. Yeah he he got in the witness protection program. But you've been built for something that's really what my blue heaven is all about in the witness protection program and then he goes and it's become a criminal anyway. We gotTA DO my Blue Heaven for children. I don't know such a good movie. I you like that better than I do. Artis Larry I love Steve Martin. But that movie you have always quoted all the stuff shook Lau who plays Maury is actually Deniro's real estate agent Maury with the whigs. Yes and he was kind kind of Lake. He was so annoying he was he was the fly he was the fly yes term exactly. He was the guy who's like. Oh my God shut him up and I. I was shocked in that first scene. Where you meet Mori? We're Henry was always kind of the bridge like the middleman like quit talking. And then Jimmy me jokes him and you think he's GonNa kill up break but then Maury doesn't learn from that. I know Maury Snow clueless. He's very clueless. He sells the wigs. The scene in which Tommy kills spider mostly improvised the only line that was said as scripted was spiders. Why don't you go fuck yourself Tommy? I did I not. How many times have I seen this movie and I looked at you and I'm like why does he say that? I get so angry at Christopher because he got shot in the foot she magic and my whole point. I understand todd odd but if the guy shot you in the foot saying that is the end of your life and that's the other thing about let him disrespect you or quit working there. uh-huh Christopher go sit on somebody's dog sit on a potsy. You remember when he sits on her dog. Kill the dog because his drugs. He's in the Sopranos last at last takes on this movie before we sign off as I said as a forty eight year old woman. I probably wouldn't choose this movie but when I saw it in my twenties I I saw a lot. It was just part of our generation. It's fabulous filmmaking. I've never leave it meaning. It's hard to walk away from that movie. Once you jump been you're in and I'm excited to see the Irishman that's right because supposedly it's somewhat of a commentary on Goodfellas and Casino. I'm excited to it would happen all right all right Subscribed US ED parenting for goodness sakes keep trucking. 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Grandparents Weigh In: Cultivating Gracious Family Relationships | Ep. 145

Risen Motherhood

28:05 min | 9 months ago

Grandparents Weigh In: Cultivating Gracious Family Relationships | Ep. 145

"Today's episode is brought to you by the hand on Bible from Tindale House publishers. This resource is packed with activities humor and colorful graphics to help kids understand and live out important. Bible truce the hands on Bible. The new living translation is designed to help kids learn by doing using experiments crafts and more visit the hands on Bible dot com to discover cover more use coupon code risen to receive thirty five percent off. Select hands on Bibles. Coupon is valid through December thirteenth twenty nineteen. We are so thankful for the support of House. Publishers is hard one second. We think we're doing a good enough job. And the next the worst mom on the planet which is why we need the refreshing truth of the Gospel repeated over and over giving US help in the every day. So Mama whether you're sipping cold hoppy a sink full of dishes. We hope you'll find encouragement and laughter. Here this is the Prison Motherhood podcast. Thanks for joining us. Welcome to to another episode of Risen Motherhood. Today we have a special show for you. Emily and I invited our parents on the show to talk about what it's like for them as grandparents into dive into discussing what some of their goals are how we manage conflict and communicate expectations for the kids and they share encouragement for mom was longing for a better relationship with her own parents or in laws. This would be a great episode to share with your parents or your in laws. As our parents sometimes do speak directly to others in their same season of life just a quick reminder that our ministry is actually funded through donations through our work here at Risen Motherhood we strive to beat moms with the good news of Jesus Christ right now we have a great way way to make a donation in honor or memory of someone you love and we think it would make a great gift to celebrate a birthday remember miscarriage or to simply recognize the impact. Another mom has had in your life. Risen motherhood will write and send a note in your name to your designated recipient. All you have to do is risen. Motherhood DOT COM forward slash give to learn more and make a contribution and help us continue the work that we do. Okay let's get to the show where you can meet my parents dean. Diane Johnson and Emily's parents Henry Henry and gala Graham and. Welcome to another episode of risen. Motherhood this is a really special show I of course have my sister-in-law emily here with me guys and you guys. I am looking around at at my own parents. And Emily's parents yes my inlaws clear and we have my own parents parents and in laws and then her parents are in here. So we have Dean Diane Henry and gala and you guys heard US introduce them just a couple minutes ago and we are going to be talking about the very very important topic of grandparents and relationships with their daughter-in-law's and we're going to start off by probably just letting you guys give a brief introduction of who you are and then we'll kick off the show into the real the real subject. Yeah It's a great K Dad. Do you WANNA go first. Sure I'm the father of Laura. The father in law again. We as a note our three children were all married All inside the same year by the way three sixty four Ford as Mike and I just made it in there barely fun year very founder but we unconditionally adopted each of the spouses to into our family way. So we don't have any distinctions between the six of them over the last Twenty five years or so. I've worked in the real estate industry and Most recently have you've been specialized in adaptive reuse projects. Part of that is is. My background is in sculpture and Buildings just serve as sculptural pieces. So it's it's been a fun fun journey in that. My favorite thing to do with the grandchildren is to participate in They're teaching opportunities so things like our projects playing aim baseball Bible stories. I just love to see them develop and grow and achieve in those areas in what seems like a small amount at the time turns out to be a huge building block in the future. We love that Papa. So good about taking them to golf or like you said do art projects or do like all the things that require a lot of patience and planning and meticulous like all the different stuff so we're really grateful for that all right Mama. Okay Well I'm Diane. We are Laura's parents emily's. MARY TEAR SON Bradley. Ray and I one of my favorite sayings is to say that I've retired and gone to grandma heaven. They look like heaven we watch my mom S. Some of my favorite things to do with our grandkids is like to scare them when I commend the school house. She's so they get petrified. Hey Do you know and another thing. We do several do things with them that we enjoy doing. Board games or watching. DVD's munching on popcorn and EMINEM and having Cousin camps a big deal deal with our grandkids and then when they spend the night they know the next morning i Saturday's. It's hot chocolate and conversation although there is not very deep conversation champ it you know something that I hope that they will be able to ask US questions about live without any filters in you know just to develop that trust with them I and and drink trout at the same time with lots of marshmallows. They love that they talk about all the time. Yup Yup. Yeah all right. What about you dad? I'm Henry Henry and I'm proud to be emily's father I'll let you guess for how many years has been an. I Know Laura from some of our Inter family birthday parties and Holiday Inn. So that's been the great thing. I'm retired from fulltime work so I get to spend a lot of time by my choice with my grandchildren and some of the things I like to do is just taking them out into the community and just doing real life things everyday life skills and and letting them experience as much as they can. Because I'm I just think that's real important so they can take-up and know how to operate in the real world also like to take them on trips introducing a new things because they it's very exciting for them and I kind of feed on their excitement and so got a lot out of that to communist selfish way. Yeah I remember one time. He took them on a little bus system. We have in our town and they got to the end of the town and they said there's nothing there. There's coordinator the Truman show or going on those outings with GRANDPA. I'm really grateful for that. All right mom I am in Los Mom gala and I am. I guess I would say retired from my fulltime career but kind of semi retired so I still work part time outside of the home but have have a very flexible job that allows me to take time off and be a grandma come over in the morning sometimes the help before I go into work or take a full day off. I need to Babysit. I've just kind of a support role during the week and then on weekends one of my favorite things to do with the kids is probably a cook and bake. That's kind of one of my favorite things. I like to do for hobbies so I'm kind of the person that will do Easter eggs with. We do due gingerbread houses at Christmas. We'll do cookie decorating They love to help me make we make banana bread. That's one of my things I'm famous for. Yeah and so. They loved anything. They can vixen measure. Make a mess out so we just have a lot of fun cooking together anytime that I hear. You're bringing dessert I'm they're they're they're bringing it again. Another thing I'm like so grateful there's a grandparent with patients gingerbread house Easter eggs staff. That is not so great. Okay guys were excited for our listeners. To be able to hear a little bit more about what makes you guys take as grandparents and just the relationship. Why relationships seemed to work really? Well they're not perfect. We don't want people to think that our relationships are without conflict. But can you guys just share. What posture you take grandparents or? What's your goal when grandparent Tang? And then why do you have that perspective. Well first of all. It's is just an honor and a privilege to be blessed with grandchildren's that's the beginning point. And then the added blessing is to be nearby them geographically. So you can see them more didn't Just occasionally and finally. It's important at least for our family that we're in right relationship with you guys and that As we share in the training and growth of the kids that We we have a correct understanding for me it's important to impart in entrust just grandchildren with as much life. Prep as we can and so That's an important ingredient to To See from day to day mine is just pretty simple just love on those grandkids and be with them and be present with them. One of the roles I pride myself. On as being the disruptor rupture in chief enjoying heavy ability to to take those kids from being quiet and mannered too loud unruly about ten cents. A MOM's favorite taste that sugar out that I have the privilege the joy live spending a lotta time with my grandkids. And I just think that a lot of time you can kind of see what's important in someone's life is where they spend their time and so I want them to feel like they're important to me so I do spend a lot of time but ultimately I think my role is a grandparent is just to to be whatever link in the chain that there is and hopefully leading them to cry and I don't you know what that role is but I just tried to consistently show him that love and educate them about God's love and and hopefully some point that will pay off for them. Yeah and I just think you know. A lot of us say retired were not retired. We still need to continue to live the Gospel in our everyday lives and Mentor mentor our grandchildren. I think we have a spiritual heritage that we need to pass onto them so I think we're just called to to support encouraging in love. Our grandchildren sacrificial as Christ has done for us so It keeps US busy now. We're really okay. Great Pie for like it takes such a village and It's it's really helpful for us to say. Hey we're sending over two grandparents houses to know like they're gonna be encountering someone who loves the Lord there too and it's going to look different than the way we talk about it and there's different things that are emphasized so we're just really encouraged hopeful. Pulled out that picture over time I might just inject emily one of the life versus We have his grandparents psalm. One hundred verse five and so it has has some really motivating Parts of it. That talk about the the Passing on the gods good that God loves his love is steadfast and that he's he's faithful to all generations and so that's been a driving force for us to live by. That's really good. Okay so when you might have a disagreement with either emily or myself when we have different opinions on how to do things how you guys approach that situation with grace. In what influences your response this is gala. I didn't know we had different opinions. I thought that's why you're on the show. I I know I guess I would just start by saying that I just. I have great respect for my daughter. Emily and my son in Law Brad and Just really respect affect them as individuals and also as the United team of them working together and I think it's most important that we're operating on the same biblical Oh principles so. I think that helps off. We're all we're all walking together on that same path and I just think about equations for where where we're really called to live a life in a way that reflects the grace that God has given us so we should be walking together seeking unity being loving gentle and kind and humble so opinions in the end. Don't really matter I think it's the character and the heart that we have for others in the Kingdom of God although I think it's good to have different perspectives and opinions and mindsets. Those can help lead us to when seeking the truth So I think there's nothing wrong with that. As far as parenting goes I. I love that I'm the grandparent this time around and I'm not making the rules so so so I just try to. I try to honor and respect the parenting desires of our kids and tried to do those. Follow those as much as I can to the best of my ability and if I do have an opinion I think we have good open communication. I'm not afraid to in a humble way express. What a concern? Whatever I might have so exactly I think you girls are very easy to talk to? And I think we're guided by visions also which talked about speaking the truth within live and so that helps a lot because you don't have to take things personally even if it's a little awkward it's still worth going through that conversation in order to get through that problem and you both love the grandchildren and everything. So we're looking beyond the problem to what's best for the grandkids and so so and again like I said I think we're pretty much in agreement with everything in terms of raising the kids or supporting you guys. And that's the big thing is supporting you guys guys something. Emily and I have shared on the show. Many times is talking about being on the same side of the table as a problem or not as the problem but be on the same side of the table and facing that problem together other particularly in marriage. But I think that's something that as with a grandparent in-law relationship or daughter relationship can be really helpful like you said mom that you love. The children mull so much equally. I mean sometimes I feel like I'm like I love the because we're you know we're all that but there's a element I think of recognizing facing the same for these kids and to see them. Love the Gospel to flourish grow up in the Lord and it does look really different. We're coming at it from totally different. Perspectives it is because of the stage of life and the type of relationship we have. But I've always been grateful because I think especially I've seen just with minor actions my own parents. I know Henry Gale are the same that what the idea is. Okay you are the parents like I do too. What you guys desire? Even if I don't totally understand it as a grandparent I've heard you guys say that before like we respect Hugh as mom and dad and so we're going to try our best to still my you know what you desire even if you still feed them ice cream or U.. The reality of the tension of the relationship is that like I have to say something zero. May when their grandma and GRANDPA's and I wish oh they want to as much gum or whatever but like I've ahead Those things go recognizing what really matters. Where am I going to dry my stake in the sand and you guys have really respected me when I've kind of Said No? This is really important important. But I think it's because we choose our battles I get upset over everything and I know we're all working together towards what's really meaningful and what's most important and we're not. I try not to get caught up in the little things Yeah so to kind of build on that. We've talked about your guises kind of posture towards grand parenting towards us us. What has been the most helpful ways that we've communicated with you and you guys have felt honored and respected? I know that we probably have a lot of listeners. Saying oh I wish my my parents or my in laws were on the same page as me and they were like hearted. I don't know if they are and I. I need to communicate hard things to them and I don't know how to do that. So could you just speak a little bit like in those moments. How our communication or just? How would you prefer that? We communicate McKay in a way that honors respects you. This is Henry Emily's father. Well some of you may know from listening to the broadcast in the past We are very close proximity to emily and her family and we share driveway aside yard. And if we wanted to could probably see in each other's windows which we don't do that. Yeah so I think our communication style even though we are closed would probably be the same even were across the continent. It really doesn't matter and that's that I think we have a pretty broad openness between us and a lot of sharing of not only the little things in life but also the big thing so I think I think to us. It just comes down to we pretty much consistently I think share. What's going on in our lives and what our plans are and where we're going and I think that just helps so I think we luckily have a lot of information flowing between this other online and surprises and I think that helps us so just to summarize what you're saying is just ongoing communication about a variety of different things helps hopes when those grandparent child conversations come up? Is that what you're correct. This is just my experience. I found in long distance relationship. It can sometimes difficult for me when you get together and someone says what's been going on your life it's like I don't know where to begin because because to me lies made up of so many little tiny moments and if you try to think of what the big are well there. Aren't that many big moment. So so I think there's a variety of things we can share. It's great for US building relationships you know in Psalm. One hundred and thirty nine it talks about how God forms s and so for me. That's been a great way to view. Communication occasion is that God's shaped each one of US individually and independently. And it's really cool to just be observant of that and to realize that there there are differences but those differences always create a nice balance and being from a kind of a creative background. I've always liked to have critiques. And you know as long as the goals also the same for each of the people that are in those which is to work toward improvement? Then I think communication is fun and it's it's easy and you get respect each other there and it works. I'd like to add one other thing and that is You kinda let us know how we can help encourage one of the the grandkids you you know. It helped me a lot like when you guys talk with me about our grandchildren with special needs how to act around all that Denver. What's the best way to help them? I'm in a lot of situations and so being open about that. And helping me learn has been really meaningful to me. I think a piece of it is believing the best one another. That's something I think you mom and Dad really shown me is assume right. Good motives Mir motives people. Say things in weird ways like you're saying that people communicate in all different styles and sometimes we don't WanNA listen unless it's in our preferred style but I think there's so much when we extend grace to one another and say I'm going to believe the best of your intentions and even if you miss speak about something or you're not pc about something. You didn't say it in the way that I want like I want to be able to still receive that instill respond in a gracious way knowing that like again. We're on the side of the table. Were fighting for the same thing and so just having that underlying current I think of an assumption that they're they're coming from a good place with relationships is always a helpful place to start Yeah I I feel like maybe we've mentioned this on a show in the past but another thought what we would give frequently is just to explain strengths of other pl in. I hope you guys have felt honored when we see like grandma is really good at baking. So I'm in a allow that and invite that as much as possible. And then like you said Laura. I think that can kind of help when there are points. Say Hey just for whatever reason we need to draw the line here. Sure maybe there is. It's easier to receive when you feel like they are on my team we are they are welcoming the kids in in different things so yeah okay so. Do you guys have any encouragement. If ice that you would offer to a mom who is discouraged so we know again not everyone has relationships tranship like this with their in laws or with their own parents. Just how can you guys encourage them with the Gospel. Well I would say it would be really tough if you didn't have a great relationship or even a good relationship with your in laws or parents But you know I always. I think that if you are interested in pursuing that in maturity because you're mature one you would be the one to take steps to make that relationship have opportunity to develop or to blossom. Okay because you're seeing the bigger picture and I think even a person is hard to love. You still have a copy they love to. You're able to communicate with them and also have the courage if you will maybe take. The initiative to find ways through facebook are are not facebook but face time to talk to the grandparents about your kids long distance. I I like based time. Yes that's Word uh-huh and you know to have the kids write the grandparents a note or something but make effort and invitation to somehow include. Include them in in your family activities and I know that there are relationship where it is hard to connect with grandparents for whatever reason maybe they're far away or maybe they're not as interested as you want them to be and that that's hard and I really feel for young families that have to go through something like that but you can't force that relationship but Even though they may not reciprocate your efforts you have and I think something. That's helped me a lot with disappointments. Burdens is just remembering that that is a thing that has to be has to go somewhere. And so. That's where I Peter Five seven casting all your cares upon him for he cares for you. Give the Lord that bird and he's got the shoulders that are big enough to handle that disappointment and you don't have to carry it But in the meantime you know just letting it be. Okay let it rest with Jesus and do what you can in that relationship really meaningful to hear mom. 'cause I know we've had different relationships with my own grandparents you know and and I think sometimes that relationship has been and harder. I'm sure you guys with your parents. And how they interacted with us when we were grandkids. And so I know what you're saying is coming from a really authentic place of being there where you can identify with that mom. Maybe that does feel discouraged or the job doesn't look like what she wanted. And so I appreciate you being vulnerable to share that because I just want listeners to know like she's saying that an Israeli authentic and real and she understands Yeah just a few points I might add Ah I behold because situations can do chain so even though it looks really blackout may get better in the future. And secondly I think sometimes we have this presumption that people are older than us know how to do things because that's what they do so I would say don't assume that your parents know how to be grandparents especially if this is a first round the grandkids. They may be struggling themselves. And what should I say. What should I so so just give him some Room to say maybe they're struggling to acknowledge that and third and think. Diane you kind of said this was just just say something to them. I mean you didn't do it. Inappropriate manner and appropriate setting and all. But don't just let the clock. Just keep taking. I mean there's some issue you need to address to say something and get out there and at least it's it's out alley opened up. People can deal with it. I guess I would just say to that. You know maybe using your situation as a way for your family to model the love of Christ nice to them and only the Holy Spirit can change their hearts. But you know maybe they're gonNA see glimpses of Jesus through you and what you and your family are doing and and like I said never give up you know situations can change. Yeah and you know looking at the parents real soul needs and be an authentic with Inquiry about what. What do you dream about what you fear? What what kinds of things do you want as a a person and entering into that with your parents or in laws Is a tough navigation. But I've always found that when you can get to that deep deep soul topic. That solutions happen in bonding occurs and it just creates some foundation for renewed relationship. I think that's a really the key point because I think as a mom of grandkids I can get really self-focused right. What do I need what my kids need and I forget the needs of the grandparents so often I'm just thinking about? How can we all work together for the kids? Or how can grandma find time to maybe sit my kids or to influence them or piano or Spanish or whatever those things are are am. I think that's just a real encouragement to all of our moms. Who are listening right now? Who have the kids that it's really important to take still interest like there's still hope people people just Papa GRANDPA GRANDMA NANNA whatever they have interests mom you talk a lot about like I need new hobbies and I'm transitioning and you you know like as they retire and move into a new life stage like I think you know we see our own children how self-centered they can be? We're still that way. And I'm thirty two and so I think think that's just like a a good encouragement for me to be reminded right here of of remembering to ask you guys about higher. Lives aren't what you're interested in and like you said dad like what's the what's going on deep in souls like what are your cares and I think that would help relationships as well don't you kind of summarizes that conversation of you know our parents in laws are also so our neighbors love love our neighbors and or literal neighbors. If they're your little but I think I think you're right Laura we can. We are very very in a very busy season of life and taking time to foster that relationship and truly love them as people and maybe even have friends. It'd be interesting to see what could blossom out of that and we give them the love of Christ so thank you guys all for joining us today. It's just been a joy. This is like a Oh really really special treat. We made sure to intimidate them by bringing them into a professional recording yet legit room. We'll show you on instagram. What looks like because this? This is not my house you think they did. They did wonderful. Put Him on this guy ever hear cute. How how they kept calling it a broadcast? Oh yeah you guys are adorable. Yes so we have. We have some other shows on this. We have other resources have of you know chapter in the risen. Motherhood Book about relationships that touches on this as well so talk about cousin came to. Oh we definitely mentioned cousin camp at the end of the book. How it's getting shorter Emma serious every year? We just want to thank you guys again in any of you out there that want to find more resources you can go to prison. Motherhood Dot Com you can also find us on social media at Risen Motherhood Instagram facebook and twitter Yay. Thanks for joining us. Thanks guys thank you

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U.S. Factories Luring Workers With Hefty Perks

WSJ Your Money Briefing

06:20 min | 7 months ago

U.S. Factories Luring Workers With Hefty Perks

"Why settle for seven percent returns from your 401k? Whether you're inexperienced investor or new to the game our friends at the Motley fool want to help you find great stocks. That's why they've created a report on a group of five stock picks for the next generation of investors and it's free for all WSJ listeners visit full L. Dot com slash. WSJ here's your money briefing. Jr whalen at the Wall Wall Street Journal in New York. You factories are having a hard time. Finding qualified workers to fill hundreds of thousands of open jobs to fill those slots factories are offering more than just higher wages. You're also offering signing bonuses relocation expenses even steel toed boots and better cafeteria launches. That's Wall Street. The Journal reporter Austin hovered. He'll tell us how automation in. US factories has made the task of staffing up all the more challenging. That's next are you a Henry Henry it stands for high earner not rich yet. It means despite earning a six figure income. You're struggling to amass any meaningful nest. Egg are friends of the Motley. Fool can help since nineteen ninety three. They've been providing investment advice helping members build the financial future. They envision to Kick Start Your twenty twenty financial goals. They're offering five of their favourite stock picks for free realizing. YOU'RE A henry. Remember the not rich part you can do it. And the Motley fool can help visit full dot com slash. WSJ unemployment is at a fifty year low. And that's sending US factories scrambling to find workers to fill five hundred thousand open jobs the most openings in Twenty Years Wall Street Journal reporter Austin huffed joins us to discuss how factories are searching nationwide and sweetening their offers to lower workers and convince them to move so Austin what kinds of perks or factories is offering people to relocate well in addition to rising wages they're also offering signing bonuses relocation expenses even steel toed boots and better better cafeteria launches you employers really are having to get creative as one economist said to ensure that they have the workforce as they need and even with all these he's benefits. It's still not enough you know there's almost half a million open manufacturing jobs. Today you spoke to folks at a Caterpillar plant in Lafayette Indiana. What are they doing to entice anti perspective employees to move so at Caterpillar? They're offering some workers up to five thousand dollars in relocation benefits. If if they're seventy five miles away from the plant in Indiana you know. Five thousand dollars is pretty significant for an hourly worker. That is a lot and it sounds like. That's something they probably have not done on for a long time if if at all Raya a lot of manufacturing owners tell me that this is a new thing that that definitely not since the recession in probably Albi before then they never done this before one. HR executive said it's the tightest Labor environment that she's seen in twenty five years. How our factories he's getting open jobs to show up on the radar of people who live in other cities so I spoke to one executive and day are actually posting in a facebook group for people who who are leaving Illinois? macy's saying hey come over here. There's plenty of jobs and in my city. I spoke to another executive. And he's actually using targeted online ads based on location. And they're they're they're sending ads at community college and even some competitors to try to get get employees to apply. Seems like it's a a good idea to be in a facebook group target people who are moving but a challenge here is that people are not moving as often as they once did yet. I mean this has been a Discussion among academics for several years. Now is that basically since The nineteen eighties. There's been a decline in the percentage of Americans who move every year. You're the last year it was nine point. Eight percent which is basically the lowest they've been keeping track in the forties. Also the increase in automation factories has made it extra tricky Rickie to find the right people right because for many of these positions they're trying to find people with specific skills whether it's welders whether people who know how to program you know it's not as much for for the average day laborer Mo and most economies in most parts of the country. You could hire a day laborer. Her for relatively affordably but finding a welder is is really difficult almost everywhere so they're looking for people with specialized skills. Yes in many cases but remember though just because they're specialized doesn't mean it takes forever to get them you know Some of these companies say they hire welders. Su only taken a two month intensive course you know so so so they aren't requiring. You know four year Bachelor's necessarily and what have recruiters told you about trying to find workers. I mean frankly Company say there just aren't enough to go around and that they really are hoping that community colleges and other programs kind of step up and produce more welders in the years to come in and other other types of skills that they really do think that there is an actual shortage in that if every company was able to hire people economy might even grow faster and have you seen Hourly wages increase at factories as they look for more workers yes so in December Wages grew three percent and that was the highest since two thousand in sixteen. And so you know that's a really good sign for these workers that it's not only benefits but it's hard cash that's increasing. Interestingly also is that. US manufacturing wage growth is actually now Outpaced wage growth for the economy as a whole and that was the first time that's happened in several years so Austin if factories. He's can't find the right people. What happens them? So what that means is they basically can't produce enough Products into that means that even though they wanNA grow they want to expand and they want to provide whether it's garbage trucks are caterpillar engines. If a company can't hire enough workers they in many cases won't be able to produce the goods. They want all right. That's Wall Street. Journal reporter Austin offered with US Austin. Thanks for coming on the show. And that's your money briefing. Im J._R.. whalen in New York for the Wall Street Journal.

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Judy Gold Is a Great Mom

If These Ovaries Could Talk

51:29 min | 1 year ago

Judy Gold Is a Great Mom

"Welcome. What was that? That was like that was like if I smile on the outside. No one will know, I'm crying inside. That's what that's how whatever. No, I'm so happy to hear me too. This is over his could talk. If you don't know that. Yup. I'm jamie. I'm Robin in your hosts, God still you poor things your loss. And I still have no voice because I've been hardcore parenting a sick, baby. Oh, man. Oh, man. That is just not. No, it's not easy. When my baby has the flu. It's not cute. It's not cute. It's hard. I mean, I I want like say, but I'm knocking table knocking wood. Like, we've never you're not going to. That sentence bring that onto them even pox don't bring it don't bring it will double boil in trouble. I don't. Anyway, so today, and before we get to arm mazing, guests du jour. We are going to be checking the end of the episode stick around after the interview for our tiff and Krista. Thing is Tiffany. But I've started calling her Tiffany start. Is that with the song? Do the DEA to grew it fit better. So did I tried to send you it with Tiffany. And it wasn't it didn't work. Okay. So tiff we're gonna check you on Tiffin Christa out of the all about ovulating. So you wanna stick around Royal wars? Recurring segment about their road to parenthood. And then let's get to the nitty gritty today. We have motherfucking Judy gold. Motherfucking Judy fucking goals and her son, Henry her son. Henry Henry not my Henry Henry twenty two. Yeah. And he's a great guy most of his life. He was such a nice delightful. Boy, the two of them together is all vital bit hilarious because judy's kind of you know, a personality John process. She describes herself on our website as actor writer host and big mouth. And I love it, especially when she's talking to her son. Oh my God. Dynamic was hilar-, but milk is here here. I did say the Bill was over here. Harassed us at the table. It was like ready to go. Whenever you guys are. So we record in judy's house, we weren't which on locate next to her EMMY, it's no big deal we recorded at her house. So there's gonna be some moments of sirens and things of that nature. Also, we have to tell them about how he stood. Per window like stocking her 'cause we got there early. We were outside her house. We went outside her window our windows right there at floor. Up juror, please. We were just standing out there. Get Hodel idiot. That's our equipment like they didn't want to go in early. We look like dorks with our any thing though, Jamie. It's fine. I know she is she probably not call the cops on us. I was like what did I agree to these? As soon as she I truly think she thought we were someone else. When we walked in the door. She was probably like, whoa. Is this L flocking in here like to you? He like you did look like an elf next to her. She's she's like over six feet tall. I'm not even five feet. So we that's comedy onstage. Tell you that wasn't back in the nineteen twenties. It sure was Jamie back in the vaudeville. They'd still is always. All right. Love. Let's let's get to our Judy gold interview. Because it was so good. All right. Okay. The Judy gold is here high the the did in front of your house like all like. We really really worst apartment building. No. We were just saying how charming it is. So New York this is so New York, and we know all the neighbors that's per that's. Beauty. We also have Judy son Henry here. I henry. Anyway, we so we always start off. Like, we always talk to people at the elevator pitch about your family. I think he should both do it. A little brother we're from different sperm donors and anonymous donors and Judy fucked up on the donor registry and made her username password hadn't been mom, and that's what my password, whatever, she made, her using Hannah donor sibling straight because I wanted to in band, Rome. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. God forbid I needed a kidney or something. So that's why I did it. Yeah. Yes. So she made it hundred mom and says, she's so popular among the algae btcu community mothers put through into together and. Bad up. So why was bad how you know? Didn't want to register. All right. I said thing thing, right. And this is I mean, come on. He was born in ninety six time was really new. We started trying in ninety four I think, and then so it was all new they didn't have open donors then. So. I think maybe they had an option of you. When the kid was eighteen they could contact. Anyway, we had decided this was our family, and that was it and you. Body part. Yeah. Or you know, an excretion from Abbadi anyway. But. What happened was I guess on the Rosie cruise? Right. We did. There was a I didn't know about that. There was a documentary about the Rosie crew member the idea I wanted to go on that was the most amazing one of the most amazing experiences to get on this boat with all I mean, you have to realize this is over twenty years ago. Yeah. I mean, it was such a different time in your teen years ago and just to see these families who had who were in the fucking closet right in the closet. You know, the fifty one weeks out of the year. Right. And these kids I remember we got on the cruise of the first gay family cruise. And I remember the crew was very like, oh, what is this going to be like, and they by the end of the week had said these were the best behave kids ever. It was the most magical ship, and you know, and people are like, you know, who were the the best behave kids because they're all wanted intention finish family tension families, and at that time it was really intentional. And just multicultural and the love was it was it was magic in was fucking magic. And we remember we got screamed at in the Bahamas and. You didn't bring us up the vote. Oh, no. You left him with sitters? Why didn't want them to? There's a lot of. There's a lot of home. People are like. Picketing and stop making. But. You know, we we've gotten to this lot of marches lot of protests. And in fact, Henry has used that against me. So we went to the. I guess it was for reproductive rights in DC. He was really little and and we got back that weekend. It was like in spring. But you know, it the next morning it was freezing and hen, and I was like Henry you've got to wear a coat co. Why you like six? Shorts. Coat. I said guess picks up by the bus. And I'd be inside of the guys picked up by the best friend. I said to him you're wearing a coat Noam. Not we have this huge fight. And then he's literally you must have been seven eight years old. He goes. You know, what you made me March? So that no one could tell you what to do with your body. You're telling me what I can do with my. And I was like if he's not a fucking lawyer or an agent. Yeah. And that was like, oh my God. How can I earlier is send you can't back to your stories? Separate donors. You carry? My ex carried Sharon we were together twenty years. Oh, oh, we used an anonymous berm donor for Henry through a online Bank. No, not online. We didn't have online brain. Right. Right. So Where'd you get it California cry Oban? Oh, but that's what I write. And that that time it was one of the only one get it you had to call them. No, we well. First of all you have to go. There you shut. Does the exact unlike? All right. So anyway, we need the bell. So we protect you. Meals at somebody. Henry. Is how the valves back anyway. So we actually went there. I guess you could send a way you could call and they would send you the the catalog and that kind of I was living in L A at the time. So we went over there, and we met the ladies they were so great always wanted to meet the staff there just the kind like the great really like even this is their maple at desk. Everyone everyone and. So we had the catalog, and we picked one donor and Sharon didn't get pregnant. And then we got a notice from them that one a baby was born with Polly Dak t you know, and that it was it was a very recessive, gene that that both the blood or the likelihood do you want to change? We're like, yes. Fire escott? So we got another one and this came out and at that time, I was living in L A. And Sharon was like look we have to figure out where we're going to bring the kid up. And I was on a sitcom like you do I was so I was hot at the time. Yeah. And I said, I don't I don't want to bring my kid up in LA bring my always my dream. Because I wanted to grow up was that my kids would grow up in a this city where they everything is at their fingertips instead of having a drive everywhere. And everyone's in show business the. Only reason I was there was for work. It wasn't because I was choosing to. So we moved back here. Thank god. I mean, I'd never gotten rid of this apartment. I lived here since nineteen eighty nine. But now five years later, I had been different sperm donor because they had run out. Yeah. My my donor in out to Donna ran out. But we we brought him out out of retirement. He agreed to it. Ours. Day contacted him and. Now, we have a giant. Bend giant Pence six eight I'll tell you. Six one. Well, normally six months to yet he says, so she had the first right? I adopted him immediately. I had done all the paperwork before he was born so born all we needed was the court date yet. But when Ben was born Sharon never did. And parents parent. And we ended up breaking up when Ben was like two and a half and Henry was seven and a half. And she still had an adopted him was that problematic for the break-up or no because because you know, we're not together. There's no genetic link. Right. There's no legal marriage. We were domestic partners everything had to be done. I mean at this time you had to have paperwork even getting on a fucking plane. I have so many stories, but really even though I was upset about the break-up. And a lot of people were like, no, you, you know, don't don't let her adopt him. I was like shut the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah. Kids again, really messed. I and I and I was like I don't want Henry going back and forth and one just sting, right? We're a family. This is who. So we surprising people suggested that to you. Oh, just angry get mad at the. And that's the thing about how important it is that we have these rights, right? Because you know, she's not genetically linked. But she's his mother, you know, so we got a lawyer, and it was a precedent setting case in the state of New York, the adoption was or the right 'cause no genetic link we're not again or any non following and have the same address. And we went to the judge's chambers. And I'll never forget she said to you guys. Do you remember this? She said, do you know what's going on in here? And I don't know if she asked you to explain it or yes. And then after she said, I'm going to grant this and Henry leaned over to Ben and hugged him and said now, we're full brothers. He's like shut up sleep. The cutest. So last time, I was nice too. Oh, do I see a little salt in your? That's like just shut up. You'd is. That's really nice. And it's so funny because you know, you say they're not genetically linked. You know, are they real people? Always like, you know, it's this Brits really annoyed. Oh, well, he's yours. He's share. No. I mean, I. It's so fucking ridiculous. Do you say that to your? I mean, I verse one whoever held him. Well, you brought these kids together, but I like to not let her adopt to be insane. Be even if you are broken up. Right. But she was Aruna. There was such vengeful. And and ridiculous. You know? And so and then another state they like New York pretty liberal. Yeah. Yeah. But Henry used to beat the shit out of Ben. Yeah. And then this, and I was like Henry, and he and I said what if someone else was doing that to Ben in the you know in the school yard. He's like I'll fucking kill you. When you knew that they loved each other. Did he say fuck that early? Now, you can tell you can tell the salary. Well, she curses. She is so much that when they still together bedrooms, two years old and Sharon came home one day and was distraught about something and she said balance around and he looked at her and he's done the fucking TV's broke. Her star. Yeah. Number that, go. I had to take out a second more. I'm sure I was gonna say somebody probably ended up putting in much more. Yeah. Cursing. Really? Yeah. You always hated my cursing because it was embarrassing. Everything about me like, well, I spent so much time with him because Sharon, she's an executive. So she was working all the time. And I I really came back here. And I was the one who was hesitant about having and the minute nice all him. I was so attached that I like, I really spent most most of my I used to go to his fuck and care and sedate. Way of the morning meeting. Good. It's not good for them that you stay two separate anyways. I can't tell that too. Yeah. So I used to drop him off a lot. Well, Sharon did too. And then I used to pick them up a lot. And then we had our whole thing where we'd stop at familia and get our gorlic nods and are into similar is that why you like bicker. I think they because it's part of their love for children. That's how I love it. I have to say having one biological and one non biological the nature. Nurture thing is fascinating. Yes, I agree. Because I do see a lot of sh you know, genetics from Sharon him. And I'm like, oh, he's like that. Because her he's like, but then he's so much like me too. You know, that it's it's really it's interesting. I mean when the same with Ben, right? We talk about it a lot on this podcast, the nature nurture. If those spouses have carried a child or like, Robin who had both of them and her wife has no genetic tie that like this under running current of the question constantly is there is this because of because I gave birth or I didn't give birth. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's more. One or two. So there's that we have opened donors, but not till the kids are eighteen bright. They contacted want to know what's interesting when he's I told him when you're eighteen you can have whatever you want. He is never and you can you get the name if you want really. I was just picture of. Did you see a baby picture? Oh, really now, you can get baby. Now, they even have adult pictures. It's like crazy now. Since we did it. They adult pictures now. So we're for you. How does the donor played? It does meaningful to you or anything. I mean. The same way. My I was actually getting jobs off at college. And we as my freshman year. I was sitting at the table with my really good friend who went to high school, his parents, my parents, ro we were all just hanging out. And it was like it was like Sunday Sunday night, and they're all even in the morning, and we were freshmen in college. So we're sitting there, and I got a message on my on my phone from some kid who grew up in Malibu same deal to moms. And he's like, I'm your half brother, and I guess too into together and he had like done a lot of investigating and he found like the two other half sisters, and I talked to him for like two days. And this was when you are freshmen in college. Yeah. It's always in for like two days. We talked about genetic stuff for I don't know. I didn't talk to them that much, and he really wanted to meet me and everything, and I I would have met him. If I felt like we had anything in common, or if we didn't feel like that was just kinda I mean, he is like I'm very into sports, and whatever, and he is like a really good musician. And like once a Berkley school of music. I just did you aren't curious. I was just didn't like I didn't really this is what you said to me. He said, I I wouldn't be friends with him or have an know. It's not I went to high school with them. We probably wouldn't be friends. That's why. But would like if if he was as a Vos different like I would like I would have met him. So he didn't feel like you weren't like, you're my half, brother. You were just like we share the same genetics. I was just like I was I was obvious security, and I talked to him for a few days. But after that there was really nothing else to talk about. Yeah. And so I just told them, but it's funny because we picked the donors to match each other sort of I was a music major. And so this guy the donor played like nine musical instruments. I tried to give him. Living things zero over. Yeah. Yeah. Sports sports, sports sports, happens was is your brother interested in the donor at all because I was curious if there's anything difference or you both feel the same. Is a same way. Yeah. Amy. Argonne messaged by Ben south sibling. You think you're finding your. Showdown picture. Yeah. And I showed I showed Benon picture, and he like left in didn't care. Ben doesn't care about anything. That's good way to be see we we have secret Facebook groups for both of our listeners. And so we've met a bunch of kids, but my kids don't they don't seem to care like we're just like, oh, this is a person who has the same donor as you. But if they come to town, it's so confusing now everything that everything is so judgment. You're already at you. You know, we're different because most people are blank. And this is how people are going to react to us. And then you add that in at such a young age. I think it's confusing. My theory was with them and the way I parent them about all this stuff was when they asked a question, I would answer it. And then I would say do you wanna know more, right? And that's great. You're you know, but you know, Henry nineteen Ninety-six. He's at daycare. He's this is the feelingly Lesbos parent. Yeah. Family that they've ever had. I mean, he's really the voice of your ambassador. Been so profoundly outspoken about you know, LGBTQ equality for you. How does it for you in high school in junior high school? I mean, did you have any school in middle school? I'd say the only not even a negative just the only complication I guess of going up with two moms as I was I was and I was the first how to some rather it wasn't really like this. But I've until like eighth grade I was very sensitive, and like I'll just cry about a lot of stuff, and I was like that kid. Yeah. Your emotions on your sleeve. I was kid like I would like be like I'd be like crying and class. Like, someone like said something you mean to me go tell the teacher like I was like it. And then. And like anytime someone said faggot I'd like it was just like took it really personal. Yeah. Even if they weren't saying it to you just that word, and then I just kind of grew out of that. When I got ties school and everything was fine. Well, high school those high school they went to. There were trans like, no, right. Get gives a shit. Yeah. I mean, we're in the bubble. Dizzy get picked on or she got picked on. He's like, no, mommy. No one gets picked on away. That's your school your childhood. You know, we didn't have the rights that you guys have you know, there were so many times. I don't even know of Henry remembers these where we'd be at the airport who's the real mother, but we actually never would you just say, I'm his mom, and now I wrote an article a few years ago about for one Ben got his tonsils out. And then they kept saying, you know, who's at the fucking hospital, and how many times changed the form to say. That was the thing we worked on together. Like he would go to school at Saint mother and father Christine Quinn. I I love her and I wrote to her I said, listen Henriksen first grade or kindergarten and its mother father mother father it needs to be guardian. And she. She was instrumental in changing that. But please me I know there are other people who have kids who are in their thirties, and you know, who had dealt with this too. But at every juncture, I said something, you know, this is, you know, this makes you know, there's different kinds, and I'm not even taught and nine eleven to was a big factor because there were so many kids who had lost one or two parent. Right. Right. And it, and I said that it's this is not a gay issue. This is a family issue, but we would have to travel with their birth certificates identifying like that we're both the parents we had to go to lawyers to make sure if anything happened to each other because you know, that soccer Rosie thing in Florida. Right. Right. So there are two mothers and the two kids that she has massive stroke at Disney World, they bring her to the hospital, and it's Florida and they would. Let the kids or the partner in there. Like, no, this this marriage is not valid in the fucking nursing. This is not that long ten years fifteen years ago and the woman died alone and she knew. And she knew never you. And those kids never say goodbye to their mother. It's like this is like universal. There were so many. And you know, there were a lot of stories. Also, you know, you think back the aids crisis was a catalyst for change because all these young men were dying and older in their four older was forties at that point. But they had been in relationships for ten twenty years. They weren't allowed to go to their partners funerals. They were left in list. They you. You know, it really aids crisis galvanized us into a community, then when we sort of having kids there was just an additional layer. So until Charon and I got divorced, but we weren't ever legally married. So that was also complicated. Yeah. At the end. That's why the option was tone. We haven't done. Our second parent adoption. We're we're in the process trust bad information out there. I was just there's some feed in some like, you know, because we're in all kinds of these gay parent groups on Facebook. And there's there a chain yesterday of this like all these people saying lawyers told them they didn't need to do it anymore because because that's probably. And it's all we go. Are you married to your partner? We're married ju. Yeah, you still have to we had a lawyer on who told us that. It doesn't matter. If it's on your I also when we when we had our first my wife had our first when we got the birth certificate. I was listed as father. Oh, yeah. We had. Yeah. We had. But when we called the clerk to say, listen, this is supposed to be mother mother. She said, we'll do you have a marriage license in my wife was like. Yeah. With does matter in New York, you can only do that. Because like, Mary and our domestic partners. We can't we couldn't we could only change the burst of get three tiny a father has to come to the hospital and his wife was giving birth and bring their marriage certificate for him to be put any for. There's no futile. It still goes on it's freezing we petitioned for new Henry's birth certificate. You can see the acting. It was so out of the father, but we have one bursar typically that only has one parent on and it says father unknown on both of them sent the it's tough one time. Do you remember this? Sharon was flying with Ben Ben was a little baby. And she he was he was a lap child. But he he was speaking, and we drop Henry, and I dropped them off at province town airport, and they were getting on this tiny plane and she's holding bed. The ever comes over and says, you know, oh is that your mommy because I'm mommy and Sharon's Mumma? And Ben goes, no, my mom left. Like what? One thing that you always afraid they're shape. Like what? Oh, God always been matter-of-fact. Like, right. I wouldn't have asked about that. Yeah. And I wanna know I wanted to hear him these. He's an amazing voice for this. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what was it conversational? Give me a fucking. Mazing voice. Henry you have grown up in this family. And you've I mean have you ever been a shame to say, I have two moms. That's a good question. The tough question answering your mom. Oh, it's fine. No shave of my mom's maybe not because you have to mom. Just because he he went through a period. He couldn't stand. Anything about me? And now, we're like. Closer than I mean, we're pretty close where you ever. So you have to answer wherever ashamed because they were gay. No, it's nice ever get. I don't say made fun of or but did people give you a hard time because you had to moms the maze moon. I feel like you were in the bubble like. They would say didn't Simon say, you're you're you're your home in us kid in preschool asked his father where my dad was. And he was uncomfortable answering the question, so he's still into son that my father died, and then someone asks like, I guess a few months later like another little kid Astor in preschool, and he answered that my father died. And what you did you cry? I don't remember. I was like two or three so many kids at that. A yes would be like they'd find out like, oh, I want and they'd be like I want to. Who are still on right now. They're still at that stage where they're like see I do have two moms like they're still for the most right? My daughter is still in the face where she's just tries to call everybody. Dad, just to see what will do right there. So an evil sense of humor. It's really good there. They have relondo funny. They're your kids. But you know, he's working in the comedy world. Now, are you doing standup? No, you I understand it because you're Blake managing a club. Right. Thurston? The Danube scary. Yeah. Yeah. Well, not for you. Love it scary. I love at the most. When when when the comedian before me says, the audience sucks, and you're like L take care. I got eight people are so weird. When the like because I I see an audience every night when I came out as a comedian. I came out as a gay parent. Oh, oh, so you had down making the baby making the family thing kind of in the closet. You didn't know how public. Well. Everyone knew anyone who was close to you comics people knew but on stage, I never talked about. I talked about my gay friends. But honestly, there was none. No relationship was sharing that was comical like right? And I also didn't want to be pigeonholed. Nobody was doing it at that time. Well, Bob Smith, but my friend Bob Smith, God rest, his soul. I miss him so much he just passed away from L S, but he was out. And he was out in the mid eighties into Larry was out. There were so many Reno Frank. I'm western Hoffer was out and Lia was out and Reno was out through. Ninety four given though that she was. I didn't at that time. That was like, you're you're gay comic. And I I didn't have any material. Anyway, that talks a lot about my mother and being tall and just my adventures in life. But when I when Henry was born I was like I had so much material about and it was from this new point of view being apparent every comic talks about their their kids. Why shouldn't I talk about my family, and I came out on stage to the chagrin of a lot of my rep representatives. But I feel like it was a public service. I mean, I tell you how many people would come up to me after shows. I'll never one guy in Texas. I used to do a bit. After Henry was born about how we I wasn't allowed to get married, but like Erik Menendez can get married in jail. Charles Manson, married, Mary Kate, get married, and it was. You know, just the hypocrisy spirits can get married for three hours. Yeah. She has more rights than I do. And I have this intact family intentional. Yeah. And so and then I would get in fights with people. I'd be like, you know, what wanted you ask my kids, if they feel like they they're they're wanting for anything that, you know, most kids don't have two parents who loved them and also Lesbos I was explained this. When the kids are born, you know, like the straight people are like, oh, my husband does nothing lesbians are like, no, I'll do it. About that. All the time all the time or or it's like, I did this you do that half. Everything has to be ethically shower news. Shower news to do when I come home. I was running the marathon. When he that was. Yeah. And I would go on these really long runs on Saturday morning, ten fifteen miles, and I'd be so fucking awesome. But she would get up with him while I was run. And then I turned so I come home like so fucking tired. And she'd be feeding him in remember that high chair and she'd be feeding him going set. After I'm done mommy's going to the park. She fucking told me. It's not time for you. But this is the land. I'm in right now we still alternate bedtime to like one night. She does the other night. And that's this is the land. I'm in right now. Right. But it's so I. I bet she'd be better asset or how you know who I asked his girlfriend's if there's anything different about him because he was in a relationship, and those are my girlfriend's told you there's anything different. No better news, though. This is what I think, and you can tell me if I'm wrong, you're wrong. Both of my straight sons. Unfortunately. Friends who are girls like real friends, like really close friends who are female. I guess it's a new thing. But you've always been like that. I also think he knows how to talk to the lady, right? I think he never thinks a woman is incapable of doing something because he's seen us to. I mean, do you think you have a different view? I mean, he's still an asshole about shoes hod and food. That comes from. Yeah. Do you think you're different because of dressing do I think on this way? Because my parents are is that the question there was a time. Do you? Remember you were playing baseball. And he was he's a catcher. But there was a time. Where did the guy say your faggot or something? And and Henry got up and said, don't you use that word? My I have two moms. Remember? And the coach came over from the other team and apologized came out and then came out to his. That's amazing. Wow. I feel you guys. Just like I mean from changing things on the school to to to this that you guys have just got. It's just about there are so many times where you could say, you know, what I'm not going to explain this to like. Yeah. Exactly. We you talk about the cabdriver all the time guy dago tiny doing. And then, you know, I realize, you know, once these people know like the world will change when they know that they know a gay person they like or love a gay person. And when they go to a vote and booth and that they can have a visual like do. I want this person to not have the same rights as me. So I found it really important that no matter who it is to just be matter of fact about it. You know, there's no emotion like when? I hope you read this art, I'll send it to you. And the Huffington Post about Ben and getting tonsils out, and that you know, the initial visit. She said, well who's who's the real? I said are you asking who his birth mother? And I would regret don't ever ask the real real. And I was kind but firm you have to be kind and firm because. You have kids around you and they're hearing everything right shape. Like, that's why I was like I'm talking about this on stage. What what kind of message is it when you're like, by the way, guys, we don't talk about this. Can you imagine? I can't even imagine you not doing that material. Like, you seem so just open in like them. You know, it started with one Sharon had the c section and we went to get YoM because for his Bris, and she was miserable. It was to the juice store down two months away. And she was miserable. Yeah. And I had them in the baby Bjorn and everyone was like oh my God. He's so cute. And I was online and she was standing by the door. And they're like, he's so cute. How old is he and I'm like six days in a like he looks. You'll look fabulous. And I said, thank you very much. Sure. Tell that. No. Of course, I just love that year. Just so open about it from the start, right? Like were there any conversations when they were little that you had did you have books about like donor vers dad, or did you guys? Like, what was it conversation to explain their family makeup? Was there one? I mean, it was just nine eleven was also a big wake up call on on so many levels. But you know, here these kids with different families now different family structures. So it's interesting like delineation, I wouldn't have thought of that. I I thought I never thought of that. Yeah. I just felt like these poor kids grew up in other Father's Day. Yeah. Well, and even just like when they do it was like bring your dad to school, my kids pre-k, and I was just like so it's not that big a deal that might kid doesn't have a dad like all show up. But it's like what about the kid who's in a bad? Situation where their dad's like jail or something do that shit. Got to mention that. Yes, incarcerated parents. Yeah. And then also like the fact that we live in this village like si- lives down the hall. He and Henry are like I mean, he's eighty six but they're like best friends. He's been there the whole time since godfather. They had a gay Manny. They had was going to ask if you've ever had any 'cause my my son is starting to say things like we're going to be engaged parent magazine in may. And they they wanted to Stewart family picture, I told him we're we're going into a family picture, and he was like they got really excited. And then I was like he said, what's the magazine? And I said gay parent he goes and then second later, he goes, why don't we have any boys in our family? And I thought it's nice that you have your brother because he's the of a girl cat. It's just like, all and. And get a mammy we got. But like did you feel like not having a dude in your world or you had enough of a village that had men? Yeah. It was hurt. It was never an issue for me issue. Well, they also went to a day care where there were guys rare. He is he now works at that day. They're like nine hours a week. And he. Oh, so good with. I mean, if you need a Manny, I need a baby Manny because I have a one year old stalking a maze. Hang out with a one year old all the kids like he on those. Those two two there's two gay families two out of eleven kids. But I there's two different. There's two days. Right. Right family. Yeah. We were the first mulligan Lucy were the second before we let you get back to your life. Henry we've asked a lot of you this hour. Do you have anything that you would say to parents that you would say my parents did this well, or or that interest like any sage advice from your twenty two year old self made it easiest for me is that my parents were both friends with my friends parents and like social people if people want to be around. So I think that made it really easy for me. Because like I'd say, my parents are cooler than a lot of parents. So let's get you to. Was your house the one that everybody hung up at ways they just came over to Henry's. I thought Henry was going to be like, you know, an activist when I saw Zack walls, I speak about his. I was like that's what Henry. Interesting like, he doesn't it's not an issue. But I think because he had all these friends with straight parents and saw the dads, and you weren't. You weren't you weren't just in this world. You're just like all these worlds to be in the world. Yeah. Funny. And I think I'm raising a little feminist with my one year old boy to you have these dreams. Him about my son. I think he's going to be this great feminist. You know, you think of women. Feminist like, do you think women are equal to men? Of course. But I was I am curious as to like how boys of I don't know. I just really want to know how it affected him. I like all kids I want there to be enough kids that we did somebody does a study. We see it just because it's like, I'm very curious about it. But also Henry's made comments about other fathers in that their Dicks like story about Simon and his father said he died that guy is a teacher. He's an educator to tell his kid that you know, because he couldn't handle like saying something uncomfortable. It'd be much easier freshman year school and you're like, oh, my dad's dead. I didn't bring my homework, and because you know, I was feeling dads. Right. You know, my dad died. I mean. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like they're they're just they're great kids. Yeah. Well, you did a good job raising them, you know, and you did it intentionally take some credit. I also, you know, I'm not the greatest, you know. I I mainly stakes. So every day. That's parenting. Right. But I don't think he didn't screw them up too much. And I think they you know, what the other thing is. I think it's different there, socially intelligent or more aware of their feelings. Emotionally intelligence. Yeah. They're very emotionally intelligent and how to express that. He so used to women's moods that. That's what I was trying to stay on folk earth fucking him gauge. -tuni- about that, all and bub-bubba, blah. And you just did this to me. And he he you. Because that's the way you parented him. Or that's because you're you two moms raising him as their, you know. Yeah. I mean, what what else do, you know? That's the way you were raised. Right. Right. Right. So certain extent, it's like these questions to compare it to like all other like, this is your experience these two bombs is to. But she didn't feel different growing up. He saw how we behaved as like we're normal and people treated us that my. We should have video for all the looks that your giving him. It's it's really a whole now that's normal like most mothers son relation like last week. You see was performing at the comedy club. And I was waiting tables. And that's not that's not. Did you talk about him while he was waiting tables? My son Henry, he's working here. Because. We live in a trailer. So this is going to air in early April. Wow. Or should see you? I while you're looking at your your live dates, you do a podcast. It's called Kilby now called kill me. Now, we're going to start doing more live podcast fine. He's hilarious. It was really fun. I actually we did one live podcast. And I was like fuck once watch us do this. This is so bad. I came to see you say, okay, get it. It's fine. Stacey chen. And that was like amazing. She was so great. He's crazy in love. She was crazy. No, not at all. On of us. Just like you're darn right on first week in April. I am. Oh, April fifth in Fairfield, Connecticut, Fairfield theater, then I'm doing the downtown sater's. Which is this thing. City winery does where they give an artist a piece of a part of the hookah. And I do I do Diana would have been sufficient every year so DC on the seventh New York City on the eighth and Boston Vernon signed. And then oh my God. Then I'm doing women in the world for Tina Brown on the eleven everywhere. I know the twelfth the met is doing God. He asked me to do five minutes before four the Dory. But there's four of us that tells a story of love gone awry. Yeah. So it's you know, and I have a book coming out this fall. Rat. Like, I'm Mark out the first amendment really out this fall if I finish it. He doesn't shut up and I can never get my work done in here. You can't work with kids in Starbucks that ended in a certain age leaving. No, it doesn't. So I'm now looking up spots. I can go to. Well, you can just feel the love in here. You can't really you can is it a house a love guy, mostly. Coaching? We is this like. This tween girl Mexico. So the subway and her mom just put her hand on her light in the girl, just like took her mom's hand, and is like that. But never stopped reading, and Mary, and I were both just like would it be so sad come back. That's this is what I like is to hear like literally he came back in his living back home. Right. Thank you guys so much. This was really awesome. Yeah. For shit you bringing us to your house. We have to come over for Chabad dinner now. Yeah. It's like we have let us know. Fuck fucking put the table anymore since they put that. So we'll just come here and just start yelling at everybody to it'll be. I look forward to scream melas. Bet. That was so good now, again, I'm shooting called totally el-bechir which I mean, like more than ones like I would say how I just. And I just honestly it was just like fateful. It wasn't me. We news using a yell at one of at. But like, I I think of that with Judy. That's a term of endearment. That's like her telling you, she likes you like I'm going to be really ater how love forever. Yeah. So she's like, by the way. Just like Judy like, dude. It's like we're friends like this was Judy gold. Judy me. I hope I hope you deny Judea me. I hope insurance out like her Henry. He was a nice boy. Yeah. He has a lot of thoughtful things to say, we I do think we put the pressure of the world on Henry like he has to speak for all children of gay parents. And he was just like Ono, which I thought was hilarious. No good for him. For just being like, I'm just you know me. I'm so glad you did that that was excellent. And thank you Judy for an Henry for being on our shame so much for me allow we'll be over on Saturday to watch TV by now, you gotta get to our Tiffin Caracas segments replay the Diddy. That's play it must do it think. Bay. So what great news I was expecting to basically have to take out small personal loan to subsidize all the sticks. I was at vice to peon in order to figure out when I'm obviating. But because I really have to give this to my family. I was taught from a very young age to kind of pay attention to what's going on with my body and listen to my body and yada, yada. Because no interests, the no interest doctors and hospitals, which honestly, I totally hear them. They're mostly black women, and you know, track record is the best. And they are with me on the idea that we're gonna do everything we can to make sure that I make it through childbirth, and I make it out of the hospital alive. Still not sure if hospital is something I wanna do. But. So yeah, I did the thing and literally after week. I know exactly what I'm obviating which is pretty for. Concur. Onward and upward. And turns out I do know my body darn well, so. So interesting. Yeah. Because that was a cliffhanger a little bit because I'm really pee on many sticks on all sided did not even one. When I first started the process, I didn't even think about my ovulation because I was going for till any doctor won't me when I was I was like someone's going to tell me when to stick things in there. So now, I'm wondering, I know maybe their home like are they going to Turkey baster this? I wonder we don't know cliffhanger really Tiffin Chris are little bit. Like, you know, like. Like. Matisse this out going rogue? All right. Well, we're gonna have to get another clip from them. I'm going to holler with the deal is. Are you do what is happening? What are you literally? What are you doing? We'll get that in the next update from them. Yeah. Okay. Guys. Well, this has been just a slice of heaven. Sure has enjoyed sitting here with you today. Jamie me too. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I it's been fun. It's been it's been real real good. Yeah. So if you guys more reach out to us, please do show ideas. 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Two for Tuesday: Devotchka & Frank Locrasto

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Two for Tuesday: Devotchka & Frank Locrasto

"We want to read you. A little Nonprofit sponsor from Hashtag schools not prisons schools. Not Prisons is the leading brand at the intersection of Art Culture and activism since two thousand sixteen schools not prisons is reached millions of people and connected hundreds of artists with grassroots youth serving organizations across the United States schools. Not Prison supports campaigns. That are creating a new vision of safety centered on health healing. Investing in people for more information visit schools not prisons dot. Us Go there at least how healing and investing in humans about times. It is about time this thesis. I'm Summer Phoenix and I'm rain. Phoenix welcome to launch Latte. Welcome to launch left today. We have a very special guest. Yes of non. Yeah Oh my gosh. This is so weird that we usually do these interests separate but today we thought we'd do with you and now and we usually do it at a table so this is like a two headed monster. Incoming today's special for you. We've never done it in these armchairs till today so so what to do with our legs. Because they're usually hidden underneath so yes. Oh my mind to your like how. Great your legs a great. And it's good to just cross them in different ways for for variety. I won't be doing that because I don't WanNa see variety when exactly. Yeah when it comes to me. We don't WanNA see variety Welcome to the show. Nick all thanks for having me. It's years so welcome I love your theme song by the way I heard the theme song the theme song and I was sold. Whoa I mention saying you think you That's original chain. We're doing that. I wrote pain. Operatic Lee sang on top of how we did it in about thirty five seconds. Yeah three minutes. The engineer would say three minutes but It was really fun to do. And thank you for the honorable mention of launch left. Podcast Themes on what is it. Bring us new artists and we will launch them. It's true that's Yeah so Today we're doing a bit of a portrait on you because we're not sure you know who knows about two records and your band devotchka and your videos which I checked out to really already and I did a dig. The video But really you know a lot of what we do on. The show is just talk to artists and ask them questions show. Yeah we don't really we don't really go. We're not super you know no fence. We're not super interested in going into the details of every Song or record of an artist's were more interested in the process. Y Music Y are You know what what inspires you? Who inspired you? Who's inspiring to you? These are things that we think are important to or at least interesting as we. She means her. Although I feel like you Are On the show with me. And you've agreed. I have a question just how you came to music. Like what made you want to be a musician Well I was. I was like one thing in my life. I was always drawn to from the time I can remember being toddler We had very musical household. I had a very musical grandfather. Who's kind of legend that loomed large all of our lives What's he so? He played the trombone and he had his own band and he was singer and he was a super super suave. Cool Guy and He died when I was pretty young. Which sucked But Yeah I just came out of the gate always fascinated with it. We had all piano in our basement and I used to write songs down there tiny and and my school. Luckily my public school had a band program. I got into very early and I started playing the trumpet when I was in third grade and I was in marching band jazz band and all that Geeky stuff and And then when I hit puberty I discovered rock and roll and and you and and got obsessed with the guitar So I didn't know I didn't think you know in my household Who's very practical? You could be it could be into music but you know you couldn't get a job being a musician. That didn't seem like a realistic thing in my family. So it wasn't like a career path or anything But you know I just kept going with. I guess kept falling into it because I just really was unsuccessful. And everything else. Do you feel that puberty? I've talked to a few people who say it was impurity. They discovered rock and roll. Do you think that falls in line with also the discovery of one sexuality and that it has to Brockton role has a lot to do with like you know girls or boys if you are a young girl like you like basically from from the other people. I've talked to It was like that's a great way to land. A girlfriend or boyfriend is to Start playing guitar in a rock band like that was the perception and teen years and kind of help to push towards like oh not going to be in the jazz quartet. I'm GonNa yeah in a rock band. Yeah that that factored in was that at all a part of a what was it really just an interest in rock guitar I think it definitely factored in. I think it was maybe more of like the prepubescent years when you start discovering opposite sex and get those weird tinley feelings. You know what they're about. And then I started hearing like you know these pop songs and the Beatles and the rolling stones and their harmonies and their lyrics and it was saying everything that was feeling and and It was so artful and beautiful I was drawn to it But I didn't I I sort of you know I think I missed out on a lot of social opportunities because of my obsession with guitar sit alone and practice and and for your songs and and I remember sort of you know the rest of my friends were all probably developing more in getting better at sports than I was getting. Lots of girls and and And then I remember. I playing playing guitar at a party wants and and suddenly you know I did have something special going on you know what I mean. I don't know if that yeah I didn't I didn't get into it for that reason but then I did notice like it made me sort of not look so dumb right now. It's cool to play guitar. Divide can you Explain the origin of this word Yes it's it's based on a Russian word for girl and I I I thought I don't remember how I I- settled upon it but I was at the time I was reading a clockwork orange. By Anthony Burgess and that word comes up a lot and I just thought it was so beautiful in a beautiful way to describe a girl and and and I originally wanted to have a band an all female band. I convinced fewer included in. Yes Robert Palmer. Yeah I just because I I don't know I am. The name is for us because we are rushing. Yeah we're of Russian descent. Why didn't know that? Well I heard it as two headed Russian grandson. Stir because then maybe there could be. Oh sorry no. I just thought it was a really sexy word and I wanted to have some female energy. I thought that's word really at creativity. So you wound up with one female. I did run up when she you know she. Does she enough female for I mean she? She yeah she. I don't know if you've seen her. But she she plays the the sousaphone stand up bass and yeah and and I was thinking about it like i. I remember you know in those early days when you're trying to figure out the opposite sex. They did they seem like you know girl seemed like a whole different species but then when I started playing music I realized we speak the same language and we are just human. And that was you know. That's that's when I realized that art is the great equalizer. Yes and is shame that it's been cut so much from our public schools and because it's one of those things that I think just as you did through the process of doing it and re you know it it's it becomes what's inborn that we're all equal you know that we're all do share and there there is some some equalness obviously Equality Yeah thank you That that through music you found that right and so I think many other kids would find it through music if it was provided for them. I think sometimes removing art it really does cause so much negatively that you know it's it's such a positive force arts et CETERA. And they're constantly. You don't realize it at the time but they are. I never thought about gender roles or anything until they are constantly dividing you up when you kid you know I mean. I think it's getting better now. I feel like what I see You know early. Ed- education these days but But Yeah I think art is the great equalizer. That's profound dig it. Let's pause on that pause for like an awkward pause or you're just like no just pause that you would say something which you did didn't inspire anything like a positive with your pause. I'm interested more I WANNA go back down. So how did you Get Your Band together Well I was I- I mastered the guitar and I and I don't say that lightly took a long time and And I was constantly getting into bands and helping them. You know. Get their songs together and I was. It seemed like I was always sort of helping the singer. Yeah I was the fixer. I was very I was from an early age. I was very good at arranging and writing and more so than I think maybe because actually studied music and then when you get into college and Interact Banja find a Lotta people that just just pick it up by ear and sort of wing it So any sort of musical knowledge you have can go a long way in those situations But I I think I just got tired of of backing up other singers. That weren't Putting out the the vibes that I wanted to put out and and I always wanted to be a singer but I you know I get up to the Mike and Mike. I'd sound like Peter Brady remember that classic episode where his Voice Cracks? I always thought I was so good when I sing along with the records at home you know and then I remember trying out for a couple of bands as a singer and it just my terrible But then I start honing in on I. I was bouncing around all these bands and I just realized that the reason why none of them were going anywhere. Because we had like you know bells and whistles and flash and good close but we didn't have good songs so I just. I thought that's important. It is really important and it's it's definitely a learning curve and I started focus on songwriting and singing. And but you're still to this day pretty flashy and got that whole jam going down to so that's very the both got on you. Well yeah that's very important part of our you citation. Do you read music. Is that the right term I can racing Kim Tan. Yeah yeah that's that's amazing. That does go a really long way. You're right it does it. We we don't know how to do that. Maybe you do a little I do but I'm not very good at it. I mean I'm not great either but I I write a lottery sick. So CD CHART LIKE STRING ARRANGEMENTS. Christon things like that. Yeah can post things. Yeah I don't know if you notice valley but I've been a film composer for allow years really talk about and we don't know nothing. Oh here learn. Oh that's kind of my career that let's hear a little bit about. Let's hear a little bit about it. So how many years a decade so How do we fall into? It was so I started this band. Devotchka like my dream great name. Yeah and You know after being in a lot of bands. That didn't work. I I was like I'm going to start my own band and I'm going to get the people I want and I had this idea of just getting finding people that played on rock and roll instruments and unroll bat background to get my band. And that's where I found the the Quartet. They mentioned they're all Dead Had been in classical and jazz groups in college and And we're also very strongly educated musically and they wanted to have they to pursue pursue a career in it and I convince them to join a band. And we You know we we. Diy for many years we had we had a really F- really fun Time of it we. We got the time quickly just at the time. Was it fun or is it really like looking back? You're like wow. Those were the good old days you know. At the time it was. It was really exciting but it was hard. You know I do He do tend to look back with a little bit of romance but but there was a lot of really fun times because we got an van and we are so used to playing the crappiest gigs ever so any time we had an audience. It was just like epic even if it was like twenty people and and we kept you know we we got a little luck with press and and some NPR stations and stuff so we started getting little crowds like fifty hundred but we could go you know to cities that we love like L. A. and Chicago and small towns and in our little van. And you know we we We didn't really have an agenda or a record label you know we were to the money. Made at the door was actually yours. Yeah we'd sell our T. shirts and our little CDs and get to the next town. It was very romantic and and it was it was. I think a lot of bands would look back at that. They tend not to focus on it when at the time. But you always look back to that. 'cause you're just friends and you're just you're doing it because you love it love it. Yeah and around about that time We were based here. No no we we met up in. We all ended up in Denver Somehow. Yeah and Around about that time. We're not sure how it happened. I think it was at like some conference or something. Someone slipped a CD to nic. Harcourt remember that guy. He's morning comes collect a guy and he loves this one. He's still around. He's still on eighty eight point five point three or or he is He moved I think from. Kcrw down anyway. That was huge for us and he started playing on. Kcrw and And by chance We put our next album out And lit started playing it and The directors of Luma Sunshine hurt on Saturday Do you remember that? Maybe a little sunshine aluminum no. I'm sorry this let me. Music Supervising C. J. J. Yoga. So we are asked to provide a bunch of music for that film and it sort of Exploded US onto the onto this world. Standard that led to continuing to do so after that happened it was a very like It was very popular soundtrack and A lot of people were using it to temper temper films. And I and I got sucked into the soundtrack world here in La. And and I've since I've done like I'm I'm just starting my twenty nine th soundtrack right. Yeah so that's Rad. Did you ever think that would be That music would take you to film when you were young and wanted to be in a band. Was that ever even in your mind. I it was it was. It was a huge part of really musical upbringing. Yeah I was always in love with soundtracks music and were my band members to And I was Kinda dreamed about. I didn't know how how it would ever happen. But I got into the back door of of independent noncommercial radio so cool. Yeah such a good story once again. My thimble full of musical knowledge that I learned in public school came in true that we the second. So you're saying your education and music that you're speaking of all came from your public school education or you also studied i. I did study and I took you know private theory lessons and stuff like that. Yeah but but much came from kids from marching band. So there's hope for other people that's a really good lesson we will just keep going. Yeah hope that be joyful for the twenty people that show up for the nitty and that you never know what's going to happen you never know who's GonNa slip your CD's someone else and they. The director told us later on that they snuck in on a show. And there's like ten people there and so you never know who's going to be at your show either. That's I always try to tell people even if there is now you are Mike. Yeah our leading for young struggling artists. It's really important to hear that you know. Because it's it's it's a slog. It is a slog and think if your intentions are rage and you know yes motivation. What's your motivation? Yeah I think eventually something is going to happen. You had mentioned earlier that you kept on with music because you turned out you weren't good at any of the other things. Can I hear about just one or two of the other things? Well I guess When I went to college I got really into journalism. And that was kind of became focus and Has Really and we had a really great school newspaper and I wrote for it for like three or four years and I had some articles published in town. I don't know I was. I thought I was going to have a journalism and and it's a very cold reality out there and I couldn't get any traction. They're bouncing around in in in different a couple different cities and and I just was not good at landing other jobs. Nothing what's incredible though? It seems as though your plan B or your plan how does it? How does this work is like your dream? Was your plan a well. Yeah and then you didn't do a plan. B. And you ended up with the planet really. Yeah which toto's against the whole podcast. She told me about this morning. Oh you listen. American life. Twelve twelve twelve episodes. I think on on on Plan B. No there was one person in a room of one hundred and she was the youngest at twenty three years old. I was the only person who was living their plan. A really and everybody else was on their plan. B But what's interesting? Is that you. You're living your planning. I am yeah and I've I've been really grateful for that lately because you lose sight of that. Yeah and it seemed like a plan C or d at the time you know and when you got out and you're like I gotta pay back student loans. I got a job. You know your parents are Kinda like what are you doing? Your friends are all getting good jobs and stuff and and you know part of that was probably because I I was still always staying up late and playing with bands. You know jamming three or four different people all night you know and probably did affect my job search in a negative way. We might have had some bad. Maybe I didn't put it that much effort into it as much as I thought you know you say that age we allot when you were talking about growing up. Do you have. Siblings links. Really six brothers and sisters ratio but since we WERE TALKING GENDER SOCIETAL GENDER. I have three brothers and three sisters and I'm right in the middle of all seven total. Yeah in the middle of them all and this was growing up in Colorado or is that we're a college and I grew up in New York. Actually I grew up in Westchester. Which I I was listening to your air view with flea. I was shocked that he was in. Westchester is important. I never would have thought of that. Yeah that's amazing. Not For long. No right it was like I way of Australia to Harlem. Yeah then the lower east side earth. Yeah but So anyway whoa seven sips any musical at all or yeah My sister is very a really talented singer. And it's awesome where she Well she's become you know high nexus Loida. Yeah hopefully. She's listening you know. She's a busy mom now. She had a lot of kids to pass the talent onto and she thinks she has five now families prolific in making department. Yeah well those two are the rest of us. Took it easy but So she I think she focuses on choir now. She's acquire lear and a teacher so beautiful. So when you found your voice I say it like that just because you're croaking at at the Mike Grady was was that it were. You dislike O- overnight. I just I started fronting the band and you know I had like three three good notes that I could rely on looking back. And then then you know just the The fact that we just started playing every game that we could get. I think it just sort of improved with time and and live performances and And then suddenly I could hold my own. Do you think a lot of that is confidence sometimes. Just getting confident as like I'm singing and being a front person or is it a prejudice Caesar Edsa Combination. Probably I think a lot of it is confidence but you have to have the the muscles shot for sure. Erica voice. Yeah so it's really nice to be beyond the other spectrum now because I I really enjoy singing. It's like my favorite thing in the world. It's also you guys are singers right. Yep She is she's too. She's great she'll always she isn't but I've heard of seeing and she's a great voice I don't have five children and I'm not acquire leader that I once in awhile. Carry a tune There was something else that it was right on much a record. That's called the state false forever. This night falls forever the tenth I think is a tents on the second of the last song. No third did last song. There's a S- oh Oh it's the breaking up Song What is that instrument is it of singing saw is it glides brought that up? Is it a therapist Thera? It is is nicely done rain nicely done fool. So yeah so. That's another thing. I've been obsessed with since airmen. Yeah you know. We were in a band. Thurman was used Heavily Related Show called the Causey Way. Because I know that band were signed to alternative all summer and I both went on the road with this band. It's true we all in White was like Scott Stanton was the leader. Look like David Koresh. We were all his minions halt truly believed it and He would always play. He had like this cute little. It looked like a police siren that you stick on the back of a CO alight but it was a therapist and he would play at every show and that was like my pro. I don't know if that was my first introduction of therapy but it certainly was in a punk rock outfit. Yeah it's such a beautiful instrument and people that can actually play it well. It's completely mesmerized. I could just sit and watch. They can do. They can play Beatles songs with it and suck you like what's amazing. How much of the instrumentation do you deliver personally on your records You know Is it a collective? It's you have your own instruments. Yeah and then and we we definitely cross pollinate. Or we're all like you know band geek so everybody dabbles in other instruments and and keyboards and you know vintage toys and on the same lineup. As the very first group brought together with the same lineup. Yeah we've had a couple of people come and go since then but I mean just satellite players but but yeah the four of US quartet. Yeah that was. My next question is like the fact that it's a quartet when you mean that so when other people came and left were they ever officially part of the band or it was just just like one or two guys in the beginning. But you know In the beginning of a ban. It's love how this I don't mean to dismiss their contribution and all that way but it was more like out. Yeah yeah it was more of a interpersonal thing. You know you gotta figure out who can who can hang with and then not and how has that been over. They win was the. How long have you guys been together? So I kind of I put the first record together myself with with A couple of guys that are in the band now. But with a Lotta my other musician. Friends and And I I got this quartet together and we put the record out in the year. Two thousand so okay. So we're talking like this is a very well very very successful marriage. Yeah so we've we've We're coming up on our twenty th year which is really crazy. Then how is that? Ben That how many Ups and downs like you speak of interpersonal relationships. I mean the band is do not WanNa list all of them when she says how many you know. It's true maybe say how many I'm an saying like how many ups and downs. That's going to be a lot. You know. I mean you guys have been banned. Yeah it's like it's like being family at a like a relationship. Volatile love affair all at the same time and But we've been very very lucky we have. We've had some some falling huge falling outs. But we always you know. We shared a common bond and common mission. Never let any. Did you always stay together or did you ever break up and get back together? We never broke up. That's actually there's no. We never broke up. We've had I've had you know I've convinced people now to leave the band that wanted to leave the band but I think I don't know. I think that was a good decision on. What do you say we ask our three question That's a great idea. Can Ask one more question before the more two headed monster is outside of being the band g you guys relate to each other you have personal relationships here. Let me. Just move that totally. Yeah you know it's funny. How as the years go on. Of course we'd get home from a long tour and just be like you know and everyone see you again but you know as you spend time alone and then you get back together you realize like these people know you better than anybody else you know. Because they've seen you at your most vulnerable and and your your highest in your lowest points and and you've shared so much I mean there's no one else who's had that experience beyond the stage with you you know and so there's a bond there that yeah that's that's really striking and and as we get older. I think really. I definitely appreciate it because I've been out here working on films which is very lonely. You kind of it sounds romantic but basically you spend a Lotta time change in a in a room by herself with a pencil and keyboard so you miss you miss that camaraderie and you miss the interpersonal and the inside jokes and you know WanNa is another question That's not the three questions. Do you think your parents are proud of you. Yeah I do. Actually I think They I know they weren't so proud of some of the earlier outfits I was part of and they thought maybe I could be using my my education intellect and by the way but they you know they always supported my my musical endeavors and And and they actually really like the music so they're they're super proud and there are also very proud that I was carrying my grandfather's legacy that was always big huge to them. Because they it kind of skip third-generation there. They didn't really play or perform so they were so great. They're supportive you don't always hear that. I'm I'M A am. I love the stories of even when families aren't supportive like the. Are you know if you have to make art that? The artist has to make art. It's not like really a choice it's like this is why. I'm here and the triumphant moment when like that mixes with quote Unquote Success enough for the family to recognize it all this time. They've given them shit about it They were mistaken. And this like headstrong child or you know like proved them wrong. Like that's always like ooh. Yeah is give a big round of applause for that We were very lucky. 'cause we had parents that are just. Super Ardian Super Supportive of whatever we did artistically key we were our parents were like over loving an over. Anything you do is one. There was a reinforcement of your siblings. Like the like sometimes here. Yeah I like the hippy. Is We'll have like an agent in there. The thing is you'd think there would have been in someone who rebelled against Doctor Fair. Come on on some someone on the fan. I need help no That's true there really hasn. Although our sister liberty does do real estate and is like holds like proper killer graphic designer job to you know like she's super business-minded and this one does too but I don't WanNa talk too much better. She'll get mad at me That's asked the three questions. Amini Pants meany pants double head. I'm nervous no. This is releasing. Who are your favorite influences? Like who would probably like to turn pick two people that really were like. Oh they there why you were like i WanNa do music. Okay Well there's a lot of those so I know that's why I try to narrow down to the I get mad at her and like how could you possibly pick to that so mean lands squirm? Not to that. We're like like they like the key. I'd say maybe I'm thinking about like maybe two they just keep coming back like. Yeah like I'd say definitely John Lennon I would have to say deceit. I think he spoke to every young kid. You know just his voice and his delivery and his his sense of humor in his lyrics and songs and just that idea that you know that you could come from absolute nothing and and and you know change. The whole world yeah And then be super cool while you're doing you know and and promote peace and love and you know so that's that's a pretty high bar I guess the second one's GonNa be hard we come back to the. Let's do a lightning round. We also second question that we always like to ask is what is your former of activism. What speaks to you that you like to speak on Right yeah you can you expound rain? So that's that's the easiest way to say it. I mean it's basically just like with everything going on in the world today. Is there one thing that you really champion? That feels like resonates with you that casino. There's so many different even if it's like just in your general attitude in with the people that you see every day yeah it doesn't like no. Yeah that's an interesting question because we do you know we've we've definitely championed a lot of Nonprofits and people that we could help out and we tried to always Focus on music based Like music education instruments and stuff for kids But that's just something. We did collectively as a band of we could help out. We would And and I you know I do I take in everything that's going on and I definitely expound on that a lot and we you know we we we. We support candidates support charities but I think in my particular position. I've I I have this really unique opportunity that I I really revere and As a singer I just I get to connect with audiences every night which is really magical and people discount and you don't WanNa like put too much stock in it or feel like it's anything to do with. It's nothing to do with me. But it's like this connection and these people come together in a room and it. Does you know you've been there. Changes the energy. And and you're you're all focused so I think I try to. It's definitely been sort of drilled or lightning bolted. Are you know into my skull that we really are all connected? You know and we have to take care of each other and just in my any way that I can. I try to you know awkwardly. Try to impart that if I can in between songs or with my lyrics or with my energy or or when I'm talking to people around two or idiot sisters podcasting even even when even if you're out in your neighborhood you know and or you know what I mean like Important is that we we have to realize that. And that's where the That's where the trouble starts when we start thinking each other as of others. You know so you think champion human activity but I think is my one a beautiful thing to champion really. That's awesome. I've seen it firsthand so I'm just saying it's real so I wanna I wanna I want to to impart that if again thank you. That's awesome The last question we have is what what who listening to now. Who can you throw throw some light on? Oh Man I'm the worst person are. We said that we just jot it down and go like when people ask us. Oh what Devotchka said. Oh now we just we get it from other people and then we get to listen to Sunday so awesome that we have been focusing on vinyl. A lot lately varies nine. Something he can do in your. You could actually hear the whole album so I've been And when you're like chained to your keyboard with your pencil yeah it's hard to move to switch anything anyway so you just listen to the whole thing too. Yeah so And I've been finding all I've just been like really nostalgic and and finding comfort in these old records like Like Henry Henry. Mancini is not a an UN- no-name but he's got so many cool kitschy albums like I just found this record of Hawaiian music that he did in a in a thrift store. There is not one restored that if you check out their vinyl collection is not a Henry Mancini. Yeah there's so many great ones in there and then I start. There is this whole like movement. I found out after the war. Everyone was so depressed that You know they didn't want anything heavy so they started doing all these kind of fun. Quirky US easy listening stuff. Franklin casher look look CRESCO was doing. We had a guest on here and it's like a certain genre of like island bottom stuff yet. There's this famous guiding Mitch Miller. That was he ran. Columbia records at the time and and he was signing all these people like The ray kind of singers and we've ever heard of them array kind of He was a great composer. Wrote a bunch of songs that other people may famous but then put together the singing group. And you there's there's like a hundred of ETA. Any story will find one hundred of those records and just the production on those is just. It's beautiful a lot of memory recorded right down the street and Capitol records you know in one room and Mike and There's this guy I always forget. His name is Bart Kemp. He's a German his German composer which you would not immediately think what he can come across in his language of music but he wrote like strangers in the night and and Hundreds of other tunes that were made big by Sinatra. And all those crooners in the fifties and So just been delving into those lately and that's so cool for the alike now. I want to get those records and play them on my little vinyl. Yeah Yeah and they just sounds remain senior final machine. Yeah that's what I call a vinyl machines instead of my record player. Yeah I'll let you know I've been finding out that that whole movement was kind of what sort of pushed rock and roll into the forefront. There's huge demographic of teenagers like nine hundred fifty five and I think like the the number one sign here was like hot diggity dog diggity. You remember that the total cornball song and then the next year Elvis put out first single changed everything so I think that extreme and easy listening the Teenagers Awesome. Watch that rock and roll came to the fore everything comes around though and that you know what I mean. Yeah I come home and now I understand like you know why this was so important after the war because everyone traumatized and they just wanted peace and fun in the records and that kind of feel like that. Now you know like I just need to put on record and go off to Henry. Mancini's island yard is also feeling nostalgic. That have do you think that has anything to do with some. I mean as I am getting older. I know I'm contemplating mortality. Would I say it's like an assault? Getting older yeah. Yeah Yeah Definitely I. We're really doing is. Yeah it's it's it's funny you say that I I lost my dad this year. And sorry for your loss but it was the first time I really started to think like I. You know to realize you know you think about but but now it's like it's become so real suddenly the last few months and and maybe that is why and that's the kind of stuff my dad would love to listen to you to you. Know he had a lot of easy listening crooners and his record collection. But Yeah I definitely I'm with you. This is the first year I've actually come to terms with it. Which is you know. It's now it's part of it right. Yeah just delusional on my part so glad though it's focusing me. Yeah I mean not. I mean you've been delusional up until now and now you're acknowledging and you're you're stepping into euro death yeah favorite. It's her favorite subject. It is for real seriously well because I think it's important we talked about it. It is and Do we know it's not the greatest thing ever obviously live your life to the fullest. Hope we all do So that if we're thinking about death we are usually living our life to the fullest. I should say so. That's why I call it. My favorite subject is because if I know it's right there then I'm making each day county right. It's healthy yeah I just. Don't I just going to miss everybody some? Oh I know I know we can really and I'm GonNa say the royal we and she's GonNa agree probably this one time. Thank you so much. For being on our show is a pleasure is really nice and appreciate all the wisdom he imparted and the stories and and the soft sweet nature. With which you imparted everything. Thank you for being you know opposite to my crazy. Zany grumpy and her. I don't know whatever she is the second head of two-headed monster welcome the launch left. We're back in the studio. That's right this time. We have a really cool artist industry. Yeah I would you call yourself an emerging artists. Maybe we should introduce you. First Mr Frank low castes. Nope Frank Lowe crass no no Mr Low Christo did it Mr Frank Lukac now Cristo. And I'm Summer Phoenix and I'm rain Phoenix. Thank you for reminding me. We're sitting down here with Frank L. We'll just we'll just abbreviate it for L. O. C. R. A. S. T. O. Low Christo. You did it I never have to. She's from now on the spokesperson for you. Show welcome to the show record. We're really happy to have you. Thanks for having me you. It's nice to have you here on a podcast with a microphone in front of your face because On on your tours and in your music we don't get to hear Your Voice. That's right yeah. It's all instrumental. Misano talk during my shows really instrumental love it in the in the tradition of what kind of bands are instrumental. That like I was thinking of smaller bands like Mercury program who are friends of mine. They did all instrumental music. Dixie dregs right King Crimson. Did they know they sing that? They did some pieces like that Who else do we can. We craft work. Ooh I love craftwork. They sing sometimes the. They're not like exclusively. Yeah Frank Lowe crossed. Oh yeah instrument only exactly has trying to think of different really piano. Real is the main insurance your mainstream. Yeah Oh did you. Yeah I read that. She's a pianist. Really yeah that's cool awesome thanks do dabble in the the synthesizer world at all her. You know it's not my jam. I'm really a purist when it comes to piano but I learned I think like my first sort of love was on a Casio We had a casio that was you know. Probably like what maybe twenty five keys or something and it was all all programmed with stevie wonder songs and it lit up each key. Lit Up as you played along with it done a lot. In the way of my vocals. You schmancy my Cauca. Turn the volume down on sibling. Talk for Turner Down Schmidt. See My cockily seriously. It's so loud. Well just a little bit more. Okay thank you. Thank you That's awesome a casio with cheese. I don't remember ever seen that before. It was very eighties. It was probably my dad. Got It for is probably at a yard sale. Were pretty obsessed. I remember that sunshine among I've learned how to dont that was the intro. But she's a she's classical pianist not really train so she self taught which is cooler I think. Are you trained? Yeah I am trained. I took lessons as a kid. I went to art school at teachers. I went to university for music. Were you ever as a kid? Your parents was it like Internal like I WANNA do this or was it like your own passion or were your parents like Yo dude. It was passion. My folks just like yours got me casio when I was like five and I just got really into it and they put me in lessons and I took lessons for a few months. Lost interest because music is hard and Didn't do anything with it for a couple of years. And then they got me like a Nicer Casio like with regular sized keys. You know jammed on that for a couple more years and started taking lessons again. Do you read music. Yeah When you do you play just alone. It's just you and your touring. Neither band do okay. And so do you chart everything for them or or is it like everyone kind of free form does your toward usually chart like a week cheat line. Which is you know just kind of accords. And all that. Yeah there's a melody and chords and sometimes there might be some specific things on there. But usually I'll make a demo and the chart is optional. If I guys wondered or not and they take it probably half the time. Do you find that when you record music and then you go to play it live even though you wanna be super cool with whatever people come up with. Let's say you miss what you record it and so you end up being actually. Can you play that pickup there with her giant to exercise our own control issues over her music and her band like I like wondering like whatever I ended up recording tend to WanNa hear those same sounds live? It's not like I really WANNA total reimagining to happen. That's what I mean. Sure do you do you find that as well. Please just say so that. We don't have God if you just don't talk so much turning you just sit here and look good. Okay TURN ME UP DOWN. My headphones and a lot of people have worked with are like that I used to be like that and I've really tried to let go. I find that the performances are usually a lot better. When you just let everyone do their thing it'd be themselves so you have your Solo Artistry just what we've been talking about but you also play quite a bit. Would you say a majority keys for other bands? And do you feel like you're solo is more even though you're not using your voice is it. Is it sort of your voice? You know what I mean with my Solo Project. Yeah yeah definitely and do you feel some appreciate you feel like you've learned from being a musician for other Mu for other acts Sort of what? We're talking about Where you kind of appreciate like the leeway to put your spin on things do your job any know what I mean and that kind of crosses over in your head of band just all of those S I thought on it. Why keep around otherwise? Yeah a lot of people I play with are they. They're they're like do you're saying and You know within reason like the professional. Don't like take solos middle of a bridge. Just tell you not to do that. Cool but maybe you don't do that next. That's a fine art in itself. How maybe not so much without hurting. Someone's feelings yeah. Musicians are very very sensitive. Very delicate totally. Yeah skillful how you know. That's always about being skillful. 'cause it's like a compliment couch in don't do that again. Totally don't do that again. Couched in a compliment however that works because it is like it's usually great players. It's just like a sensibility. Things like what I'm doing. Let's get off your high or have you been to la before yes. I love La. Yeah almost moved out here a couple of years ago. We asked three questions of the mini questions. It could be three. There are some three. Yeah I like to ask. You are like influences who you like. Who turned you on to music? Made you WANNA play. And that doesn't have to be the long lists that I'm sure it I usually say three. Yeah which is limiting at the same time and then it's not like Oh yeah sure. Influences are always changing as you develop but in the beginning my folks really are the ones that got me into music. My Dad plays Bass and they kind of presented to me. That's Your Dad's name Frank O. Your junior different middle name but sure. We can't say his last name either. So yeah moving her lacrosse there. He's got amazing. He's retired now and he's taking base lessons and which is awesome and he makes amazing youtube videos with his teacher has a slight green screen. Set up behind him and he does like these. Jazz Disco medleys Gospel and Reggae. That's all they have to do. Is What am. I searched on Youtube Franklin just type in Franklin Christo. It's funny because I have all this stuff up there. And then his videos pop up two and a beautiful letter mazes or amazing and when you watch them they do nothing but just brighten your day. They'll make you so happy. Oh that's a great. We're going to watch this. So what were they listening to was it? Was it just their stuff that they were playing. That you were like awesome or were they. You know throwing records on when you were a kid. That sort of ignited a house Because he's a bass player. He liked bands with good bass players so he was really into tower of power from. I know it's it's awesome Earth wind and fire you. Love is huge Jaakko fan so yeah. I'd like all these weather report records as story. Ah thanks So yeah but then he also had the Salmon Dave CD that we wore out. There is a duke. Ellington cassette tape. Listen to a lot So it was kind of all across the board you know but Yeah and then like after that I think the first. Cd I ever got was Bill Evans explorations. Which is we know. We don't know a lot about music. And thanks for all of these references so that we can do a little research. So Bill Evans Rain K. Common Yeah Bill is the Jazz Piano player from fifty sixty seventies eighties and Be a huge huge influence Herbie Hancock Miles Davis. I mean that guy is like kind of the top of the list. Can't get enough of Miles Davis still. Yeah still listen to it a lot listening to now own Davis he just said. Did you know that was in the past? No he said still and he said yeah totally Miles Dave. I know but I will work out later. This put a shoe already noticed that Eric. Can I talk about it? And then he said Har- yeah it's all over the they've been doing something more than just podcasting in here. It's car corn here. Looks like footprints everywhere park or all right. We should do park horn here. Okay well so back to okay Back to basics. So there's some other questions you have multiple. That's what I was asking him. What are you listening to now? Yeah Yeah I've been really into exotica music for the past. What is five or six years It's this genre of music that came about in the fifties Kind of romantic sizes Polynesian Culture But in like Elvis Presley in the later sort of a terrible the that Elvis Hawaiian record dot Lu Exotica when people think of exotic who are familiar with it sink of very specific artists like Martin Denny and Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter But really the head of them yet. What never heard of you have now. But that's run now. I'm learning Antonio Wrong. I know it sounds so pretentiously. What Marna denude must fact? That sound pretentious. That you're putting them back on the map. Who that no one like walking around going Medani Bernard but she can't even remember? I can't remember but yeah it's the same idea. It's good some kids out there going. Oh I'm gonNA check who that is and they might fall in love with Romanticized Polynesian music also known as what EXOTICA EXOTICA also fused with Jazz and Latin. Music is to music as well and to that pool. Or whatever are there any Contemporary bands that are writing EXOTICA. I'm sure there are. Is that your move low Christo Christo. That's your next move. This maybe is a little bit of that. The newest record put is I've been calling. It psychedelic EXOTICA. My question is about the world at large right. All the crap that's going on everywhere really disturbing stuff happening our culture in our world. Is there anything that stands out to you that you feel passionate about speaking to and again like whatever that means you know pressure but always ask everybody like there's something that really puts up? What is it craw? And you're a bee in your bonnet totally. Yeah you know I feel like I'm too young to have any kind of wisdom for question like that but I do I think children as cheesy as it is. Children are the future. I mean I think the next generation coming is somehow. I think they're going to get us out of this mess and it's like a lot reporting on them. That's pretty profound though. I think it's your bright an I actually think you say. We put a lot of pressure on them. I think actually this generation is taking on a lot more than the one just before like they're sort of stepping out and saying this is bs and this is how we wanna see future and that's exciting so it seems more like they're taking charge and we're like Oh God. We feel bad. We weren't doing that. Sorry how can we help you know which is refreshing? So I think you know I agree. I agree completely and I appreciate you sharing that. Is there anything else that you just want the world to know about you and your music or or yeah? Yeah just listen to it out my record. Listen to it you know. That's really a is there a best case scenario way to listen to your record like if you know ideal like you say like you know. Put It on before you get in a bath and light some candles. Some people like to put it on while you're going through your closet organizing like it's not math rocks and we're not GONNA do that. No it's not it's very It's pretty easy listening I got any. I think of it work with any situation. Great you know. Well we really appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your left-of-centre musical awesome. Thanks for having me a pleasure. Sorry about summer work soon. We're we're getting rid of rain but until then you just have to deal with it. Sorry about that good jobs this all right re we all cheers with the launch. Left Cup. Hear hear so cheers. Whoa over driven sorry about that. 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Representations of disability with Marissa Lingen

"Welcome to breaking the glass slipper. I'm Megan Lee. I'm Lucy, handsome, and I'm Charlotte bond. Women aren't the only minority to suffer from pole as well as complete lack of representation in genre fiction? Among other minority struggling to have their voices head people of color people with disabilities and the LGBTQ community now tonight, and this upside we are speaking to the very prolific science fiction and fantasy author Marissa's Lincoln whose credits include contributing to uncanny magazines special on disabled people destroy science fiction from last year. So we thought that she would be a fantastic peasants talked about representation of illness and disability in genre fiction. So Melissa when she liked to introduce yourself to Alice's, we'll as you said, I am a fairly prolific short story writer in both science fiction and fantasy and I am also a disabled person myself that I have vertigo. And so I ended. With a lot of false and a lot of balance problems. So this is something that's very near and dear to my heart. Unfortunately, like a lot of the problems that we often talk about on this podcast with representations of women. Some of the representations. We get of like people with disabilities. A just awful. And really unfairly Representative what are some of the types that you have seen out there that you just wish would die a death. We'll starts with some of the very simplest a literal representations where anytime you see somebody doing physical therapy in filmed media, it does not matter whether it is in the nineteen forties or four hundred years from now, they're always walking between two parallel bars. Always a see the bars in scheme because I have had to relearn to walk, and that's not how you do it and having the physical therapist just stand back and watch you and say good try well done that. That's completely useless. It it is it is shorthand, but it's a completely inaccurate shorthand. So you start with things like the literal representation of what does recovering from a major injury or that type of illness being you know, that that is very wrong. And then you get into all of the stereotypes of disabled people as completely incapable as infantilized as decentralized. Basically disabled people for the most part are props rather than getting to be characters in a lot of the fiction that we read son when I try and think about genre works, particularly in books that I'm you know, and I sit there, and I try and think about books that I've read with characters who have a disability, and I really struggle to come up with any examples. The only example that sort of springs to mind immediately is Joe Abercrombie half. King. Are you saying now sponsor RJ Barker in his disabled? Say yes, you can shocking. I'm sorry. I j. Well, quite often people bring up a Lois McMaster smiles for Costa again. And I think that he is probably the most awarded character the character whose fiction is the most recognized in the shoulder, but conversely, a lot of times people forget to think of miles as disabled at all I am afraid I've not read it. So I don't know there's a whole series of novels by Louis McMaster visuals, and she's one I think more Hugo's on more nebulous than anyone else in history at this point if not she's tied with Connie Willis, but their books like the warriors apprentice and memory that feature this. Person who has both birth defects and leader injuries. And he has to deal with the fact that he cannot always just power through them. But that's when that's one of your main representations in the field for decades than the anytime. There's something that isn't representing everybody asking anyone book or even in this case, we've come up with three books to to represent an entire population. At that point anything that MRs feels like so much bigger because there's only one and I think we've dealt with that as women before. Right. The Smurfit problem that if there is only one woman than she represents womankind and anything that that is lacking or iffy about her representation traits. That would be fine. If there were seven women characters in a book and one of them had those traits become serious typical obnoxious when there is only one woman. I think that's true for disabled people to like the plucky disabled character who never gives up. We'll sure some people are plucky. And sometimes in a given story you won't have the need to consider quitting. But when that's all you get. That's when it becomes a problem. If you did want to tell a story with a character who has a disability. And you did want them to have a pesonality trait that might be considered sign of a negative trope. You know that we constantly say this. How might someone approach that in terms of trying to write a character? He might have say a plucky personality that doesn't give up how you approach that without tending into just another regurgitation of the same thing that we're seeing over and over again. Well, I think more rep is almost always my answer that if you have this character, and then you also have someone else in the story who is disabled, and isn't like that and isn't presented as being the bad disabled person, but just as human variety, the more rep we have than where there's room for that kind of Riecke when there is a character with a disability. Do you feel that they become a token character? And like, you have the token person of color, and the tug Rican are in the ever have one in one story. Oh god. Yes. Yes. Well, sometimes you can only even have one in one. Wrench is considered Jordi LA forge in Star Trek. Right. He is basically all of disability for Star Trek. And half of his plots are. I guess I like the plots for Jordy that aren't just about something has gone wrong with Geordies Pfizer. Sometimes it's Jordy has an engineering problem. And that's when I liked the character is when he gets to have his own stories and not just the disability story. I'm just trying to think about that. And think about Jodi forge and how I viewed him growing up as a kid, and I must admit I was still he indicted with the coolest, Yup. Yes. Negative facts at weight that way that benefits it would have to be marina Certes Troy because they were always making a big deal about her empathy. And oh my God something terrible's happened. She's fainted because there's like all this, negative empathy and things like that. And I never spoke grams kit on ever really soul. Jody is being at a disadvantage. I mean, I suppose like M Moore says though, a quite a few storylines where he was suddenly as disadvantaged because his visor didn't work, but also times when his vice was cool, and he saved the day when deals could. Although I suppose you could question is that him citing the day, or is it is it Mogae can the the magic replacement lot the stuff Megan sent out to read had this idea of how much is it. Okay. For someone to be disabled, and for we can't see my aircrafts, but magic or technology to help them be undesirable. So that they can be Paul that. Paul the story line, and it sort of live with others. I mean, it sounds like terrible at it. What do you think that Marissa? Do you think people with disabilities and writers who are writing about characters? Disability should remove all kinds of magic that helps them or do you think is I could have a little bit. What do you think on that school? Well, I feel like Georgia's is actually a fairly good example here that he he doesn't become like everyone else. He can do many of the things other people can do. So can I if you ask me to do figure skating, I can't, but I can work around a lot of things, and I think most of the disabled people, I know have a much broader scope of things they can do then things that can't do. So I think the balance that they found with shorty where he he gets to save the day sometimes because he sees the world differently. And that you know is valid and sometimes just because he has other skills. That's that's a very good balance to strike. Guy feel if you can manage it. If you don't keep falling back on Ono, his visor has malfunctioned if if you can focus more on he's an engineer, and he's not exactly like everybody else and data isn't exactly like everybody else. You know, one of the things when I was thinking of doing this podcast is that I wanted to be careful about conditions like autism. I'm not always comfortable, even describing them as disability. Because somethings like me, I can't always walk. I fall down that is clearly not just a difference that is less able but our friends have different brain wearing and I know somewhat to stick people who view that as a disability in some don't. So having a broad spectrum of representation of difference. Seems like it's it's very important in this regard. Absolutely. I'm reading and Joan Gwynn's second book in Hayes new series the time. Red series. And he's gonna character dren not who is kind of intimated that he's asked budges it's one of those questions where like drum. There's nothing about this makes him less able new way. In fact, it makes him much more than a lot of the very quick dishes fantasy heroes surround him. And I think John talked a bit about this. When when I saw him somebody was come off this kind of question. An and and also the what you just said this this. You know, in in Georgia, and in the community, how we approach these characters as you know, as people saying, well, all they just because they're a little bit different from you possibly could a greater Paul. The population is the difference should be seen as disability should just be seen as a completely different way of viewing the world and responding to the world. And I think that if I recommend the series. Hopefully, it's really really interesting. It's just a it's great to have a character is not the kind of traditional fantasy hero. We see from a lot of these writers. I think also it's it's interesting to sort of look extremes in the sense that, you know, some you have maybe someone who maybe struggles to here, and you know. You may be doesn't have hearing in one ear. But when it comes to representation in fiction, you often get someone it it will just be someone who's entirely deaf. That frustrates me in terms of representation in in the sense that. We don't people tend to. It's like has to be old. Nothing is not a sliding scale the. Oh, yeah. It's again, I guess that that kind of you know, the one off representation in that. We just when you do see it. It'll often be the full like an extreme rather than showing that there is various incarnations the through socially toxic for people who do have disabilities. Because almost nobody is the stereotype, right? My friend, Elsa Sosa. Henry Henry who was the one of editors for disabled people destroy. Is substantially blind deaf. But she is not completely devoid of sight and hearing and served. She says, I'm blind people assumed that that means she sees zero things, and if they find out she can see some things then she gets treated like she's lying, or for example. There have been times when my vertigo has been bad enough that I've needed to use a wheelchair in the airport. Most times I can get through whatever I'm doing with Kane. But the airport is a special time limited situation. And you know, when they ask can you walk a few steps to get through security, and I can a lot of fellow passengers and sometimes in some cases security agents have acted like therefore, I didn't need the wheelchair and was lying. New see a lot of this on the internet people shaming wheelchair users for standing up out of the wheelchair and getting something off a shelf when. N- their shopping when in fact, they do need the wheelchair to do the rest of their shopping either because they can't walk very far or because they have balanced problems. But because we have this all or nothing representation in our fiction. We end up thinking that it applies to real people and treating them badly because of it. Yeah. Completely out say the I I tend to find the those people who have experience of having friends and family members with disabilities. Very much on the ones who were glaring the wheelchair user who gets up and let you say walks a few steps. So I think it's very much a personal thing. So anybody who doesn't have personal experience when understand like says, we'll have this black and white view. So in a weird way. It's even more reason to you know, have this infection and have this diverse representation, you've got I mean, the an example, I can think of Miami and stuff. My head is a friend of mine he has tinnitus and like say no completely deaf. But enough that it gets in the way. But when. Do you ever find someone in a book he goes on? I couldn't quite catch that could you say again can't do something good be all or nothing on. I think soon as fiction dots may be turning this round. Hopefully, then societies changes will will follow along as well. Yeah. I hope. Yeah. Good positive feedback loop. There would be lovely. I mean is that the temp to be a difference between representations of physical and mental disabilities and John affection? Oh, wow. I think first of all. There. There's more than one kind of mental disability. There's there's mental health disability. And that that is an entire huge conversation that I am so glad we're having more of now. But I think people are sometimes reluctant to apply the word disability to it. And then there's the question of developmentally delayed people is how I would currently put it politely. And I think that on the one hand there is a huge amount of discrepancy in how they're portrayed especially in genre. Because for a lot of science fiction and fantasy people being less. Mentally, keen is their worst nightmare. They have a self image of being the smart one. And so showing someone who was never the smart one could never be the smart one gets treated us sort of a horror story or an object pity where let's think about game of thrones. For example, has has Brown, and he is. I haven't watched the TV show. So maybe they're pronouncing brand like the Muffin. They all. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, does this poor little Muffin is in a wheelchair missed time. He uses a wheelchair and his perilous from the way stone, but he is still mentally extremely sharp. And so he gets to have a lot of agency whereas the character of ho door. Is not that. He he gets to be heroic. Finally, I'm sorry for spoiling game of thrones for but his his her was um has a pathos to it. And he only has the agency for basically one thing. Yes. So a final act as well. Yeah. That feels to me kind of indicative, I'm really interested. In fact, that a lot of the examples were coming up with grim dark that that was there was Joe Abercrombie. And I'm wondering whether the non grim dark authors. I don't consider myself a dark author, and I kind of feel like we need to step up and say, yes grim, Dr cassette. We're committed to representing the parts of humanity that that are not Brighton shiny saying. Okay. But even in the bright and shiny parts. There's still room for stabled people. Yes. Completely. I think it's kind of is my sad that that is the shoulder that has embraced it. You know? Genre. That is known for looking at kind of Docker elements. You think well, and there's there's a book like station eleven Emily sT, Joel Mandal's station eleven I have heard so many people at conventions talkable this book as full of hope and positivity and every single disabled character in the book dice, and they die quickly, and they die preventively that basically it is we've had this apocalypse everybody else's trying to work towards his hopeful new society, but people who have either physical or mental disabilities are basically sent out to the woods to die. And that is in authority voice. That's not a critique of that culture. That is what Emily sT John Mendel does with these characters, and that's a book that is aiming being positive when it comes to fancy from feel that people just look at 'em. Thomas covenant written by. Stephen Donaldson and just kinda go why that we so badly done nev such disabilities again because I mean, oh, he was just he was awful. And they she's to go. And she was just useless on. It was it was such full representation, but taking a step away from fancy I was thinking of being them been binging a little bit on Stephen King recently. None the have Tom Cullen in the standard. And if any you've read will watch they do anything and he he is a pass disabilities. With in this case, a mental disability that does survive to the end of the book, and is one of my favorite characters because he's just he's just wonderfully skills such a wonderful sense of humor. But it did bring me to mind something I won't in that panel that I was I was sitting in the audience, and it was a panel about disability on somebody on the panel said for God's sake, if you're going to write a character with a disability, please don't hop them. Be special. Magical powers. And this was seen as a very very bad thing as in you shouldn't any single act this particular disability. You should then say it makes them so special that they are then elevated to another plane that very spiritual L'Ecole the much powers will ever. I mean, what do you think about it Marissa? Do you agree with the without statement? Or do you think magic can mixing magic in disabilities is a good way to move the junior food. Well, I think that when the magic is caused by disability. That's a problem. There's kind of a misconception that blinds people. Get sharper other senses. And you look at that. And then you think well Helen Keller. So obviously not but that is actually very common stereotype to perpetuate. And so a character like daredevil who? Well, he's blind. But he has superpowers in his other senses. Really kind of further sat stereotype on the. Other hand I think this is a bit like when people have colored talk about how there's a there's a stereotype of just being there. Having a magic in supporting the white hero. None none of these people who complain about this trope are saying therefore, you can't ever have any say Asian wizards or no, no black people with magic powers it. They're saying don't do it in the troop way don't make it because of their heritage or because of their position in society, do it as they have both both are traits person can have. And I think that should be true of disabled people to that, you know. You know, if you have someone who is blind because of their blindness they have magic that's a little bit gross. But if you have somebody who happens to both be blind and use magic, then that seems like it's a positive thing to me. So one of my favorite characters in avatar, the last Evan is tough. She's a great character. But her she is blind. And magic she basically feels vibrations through the earth and then controls the earth as well. So some it's not blindness coils the magical the magical blindness, but it is in some ways very kind of stereotypical in that her magic, then kind of allows her to see with equi- saying. Yeah. Well, and I love tough. I think tough is a great character. And yeah, it it does have elements of the street typical in it put on the other hand, I feel like while you don't get sharper senses out of having a disability. You do spend more time on learning to compensate, and that's something that I'm able to fill in for myself as part of what happened with tough that, you know, if you leave room for the reader to say, oh, well, she could've spent more time developing this skill. Rather than she was born with this inherently than I think that's a much better thing. And then when you move on to a legend to Cora, it's fairly clear that toss daughter has also inherited Lynn bay Fong has inherited her mother's earth bending and is not blind. So she can still metal bench. She still has some of the things that make toffee outstanding. And that kind of clarifies that Toffees outstanding because she's talk rather than because she's blunt, I love she's one of my eyes. She's so great. Just avatar the Los event in general is great. One of my favorites. In a speaking of someone like tough, it brings to mind the country of the blind by h g wells where the guy gets into the the island wherever he is. And he's the only person with sites, and he then has to well he tries to adjust to the flow of the the people that he's there with. And he finds that he struggles because they work in such a different way. And they con- to stand why he has trouble because all of them have lined one of the things that is an interesting difference in disabled community because we can talk about the disabled community or the disability advocate community. But it varies quite a lot. One of the interesting things is that there is deaf culture throughout the world. And specifically there are subcultures of deaf culture in different English, speaking countries, and I think this is the case side the anglophone world. I don't know. But it is it is not necessarily viewed entirely as disabilities so much as a cultural issue, and they're they're rich. Art forms and developments within that culture because of that and trying to figure out when you're representing a particular disability, especially when that you yourself don't have how do you find that balance between here's what is cultural for these people in? Here's what's the disparity. That's really really hard testing cancer writer. I wouldn't wanna go there. It's really tough. It's very tough writing about stuff that you don't have a direct experience of. But then at the same time, we shouldn't be afraid to because that's kind of becomes a one of those default excuses known to include people. So absolutely. It's interesting because a little of a lot of people. I've heard speaking about I the people of color peop- disabilities have varied from you know, you shouldn't write about it a tool if you haven't experienced it. Oh, you'll not that kind of person to. Yes show right about it. But do your research. I if you are not that kind of person, go out and talk to them, I'm going find someone with this disability or with the skin color that you are trying to represent and talks about how they deal with everyday life and the challenges they face the things they enjoy really really talked to them in unleaded about that Joe. So that would that was to be the most sensible ounce to me than, you know, don't write back to you know, for the record. I'm perfectly willing to talk to people who vote my experience of having a balanced disorder, and the mobility disorders that follows from that very few people want to know. You might be inundated with requests, please look at my show story and see what you think. Well, you know, if it gets oppressive, I I will have good boundaries. But to a certain level. I would welcome that. Because the only time I've ever seen my kind of balance disorder Representative was last spring when I had a story in a fireside magazine that that was literally d I time I had ever seen somebody with an inner ear based balance disorder represented accurately in fiction. So if if anybody else wants to try to help, you know, the lines are open, so aside from speaking someone directly other any other ways that you think people could reset so someone wanted to to lend more about birth. Go aside from said to you that short story where where is it? Good place to start. I mean, how would you even would you the Cup charities deal with this kind of thing is plenty of information on the internet. Memoir would be where I would start. Because a lotta times the charities around. Disability are focused on the people who helped disabled people rather than the people who are disabled people and. With all goodwill in the world. I think it's very easy to focus on otas. So hard for me as an able bodied person to help my child with this thing, and that's a very different perspective. And it's a valid perspective, you know, parents caregivers partners. But it isn't the same in the in the same way that you don't go to a white spouse and say, so you're married to an Asian person. What's it like being Asian? You know, you would go to an actually in person and have specific. I guess one of my things there is if you are doing research start with specific questions and see if you can find those because gosh, what's it like being you is such a big question. No matter what your identity is that it's hard to know somebody starts with. So what is that? Like, then it's hard to know what to even tell them. Whereas if they say. Okay. Can you tell me what some of the challenges are of trying to get diagnosed that's very different question. Then what are the challenges of trying to get groceries? It's an interesting one. So my my mother is an occupational therapist. And when I was a kid she worked in the spinal unit of the hospital, and I always remember because I used to because both parents wax. I was often they're in the hospital in sort of the often off to school and hanging out with her. And I mean, I always loved it because I got to play around and in wheelchairs and crutches and all sorts, but union Pau mum's job is to help people get back to their lives an end just kind of basic things. And and it would always strike me as you know, that kind of how much you take for granted. It is and just seeing mum wack with people to just help them be able to take a shower or on their own all. You know, things like that. It's it's very it's the small things I think that could potentially really. Help people understand. I guess what? It is like, and those are the things that tend to be overlooked Discomp missed out. So my on is the or was she retired the director of volunteers for a hospital in my area. And one of the things she did was she made the. The people who are in charge of the physical aspect of the hospital in the, you know, the people who made sure the new sinks were installed properly and all of that she made she made them go about in a wheelchair to find out. You know? You know, are the sinks at a reasonable height the mirrors, can you even see yourself in the mirror, if you are using wheelchair in this bathroom that kind of question, and that can be very useful. It also can be very reductive because someone who uses a wheelchair fulltime has had someone like your mother to teach them or they figured out tricks on their own and can do a great deal more. I've read articles that people are trying to do what they called the Byrd box challenge where they're going around blindfolded us, and this this does not actually give you insight into what it is like to be blind. And there are tons of memoirs from blind people and from people who have Clun blind. So. You can figure out some exercises. Like that that, you know, often people like your mother who do occupational therapy have figured out what the good exercises are to do to to figure out what it is like to do that sort of thing. But also just more along the lines of doing research and talking to actual people. Yeah. Rather than stunts? I was also thinking about are set earlier about, you know, don't go to the spice of someone. Hayes is black and awesome. What it's like to be a black person. But I think when it comes to people with disabilities. I think depending on the severity of the disability. You are probably going to get really interesting insight into the other characters of your novel. If you can talk to people who who live with and love the person with a spill t so I have my condition the on people trying to fight to get recognized the disability right now. But I never. Really appreciate until I grew up just how much affected those people around me, and how much she changed my relationship to the one I had an attack and things like that. And I think that there is a lot to be gained. If you're a writer from not just thinking about that person with dispiriting going how shape that person. But also, I would it shake the people around them on the people they live with and I think you can build everybody up and build your whole carry build your whole group up into being a much better railroad group that doesn't just have this one person he's kind of out on their own. And they knows how to react if you do genuinely talked to other people who deal with this disability on a daily basis, and who who lives with someone all like Megan's mother helps them out and how that actually affects them as well on how they have their own emotion response to that person is tailored by the rim. Feelings one of my biggest complaints in fiction in general is that a lot of traits or considered to exist in isolation. I I have given this character this trait. And this character is the only one affected by it. And that's just not how human life works. Yeah. It's interesting. How? I've seen lots of little discussions about how to make character more interesting all you know, and it's it's about like giving them quirk. So giving them something that makes them distinctive. But somehow, it's you know, it'll be like one thing that always comes to mind is one of Brandon Sanderson's series where one of the characters collects like terrible metals, just like terrible metaphors. And that's like that's the character. And you can always know that character because that character is always gonna tell the terrible metaphors, and that kind of an example of it because everybody else just sort of goes with it. It's just very like the only character that really comments on the fact that he likes terrible metaphors is the guy who likes terrible metaphors. Surely, you'd be teased like, this is a clean, Brandon example. But it is this kind of thing when people seem to think that it's it's just yeah. As you say like giving that one person a quirk all character traits, and then nobody else really interacting with that trait. You mean, it's not replicated throughout the rest of the well one one this is replicated just that it actually does impact the. Or at least getting knowledged oil. Somehow changes their social network. Yes. Exactly. And I think it changes their social any trait changes your social network in different ways with different people. So some of the characters around Mr. terrible metaphor, probably would tease him about it some would grown some would basically completely ignore it. But for what consciously because in their minds, a real person would have another trait that there would be a reason to keep him around. And you know, somebody might say to them. Oh, doesn't it just annoy you so much when he comes out with these terrible metaphors and they'd say, yes. But we raised foster kittens together in he's really kind to them or some random other trait 'cause nobody's just one trade. Yes. So I think when you're talking about disability rip they're going to be people who are somewhat impatient with various disabilities in there. Lives and utterly patient with other disabilities in their lives. That's real. And I think we have a tendency in fiction to want to make it either. Character. A is a good person and is kind to people with disabilities or character p is not a good person and is not kind to people with disabilities. But there are people who have infinite infinite patients with figuring out physical logistics or somebody with a mobility disability and are very uncomfortable with people with intellectual disabilities or vice versa, and all of that is part of the complexity of being human. It's a really good point. It's giving me a look to think about. Okay. So I I want to introduce question because I've been reading the background research which Megan his send tot, and I was just amazed. When my sat down and thought about it just how often disability is linked to evilness in characters. I mean, the one that really got me when I was reading all was gator from a state battles dog logically. The updated one an have his disability. Just twists him intensive into this really cruel person on the when I read a bit further. It was actually as lows Vig samples, and it it's just it's just so awful. I just I don't believe it. So I guess I wanted to ask you who the worst sort of examples all of this kind of thing, and whether there's any any characters you feel but. Book this trend almost well the the phrase that I ended up using with family and friends is Batman villain. When I think that a character is having it's very medieval, it's their outward forms reflection of their inward soul. So when you have Darth Vader is one of the prime examples to me that that Dorothy Vader has lost most of his limbs he has severe burns all over his body. And what we hear about him is he's more machine than men now twisted and evil. And so the two are intimately intimately linked in the world view of that universe. And you think well, what are the impudence who aren't twisted in evil that Luke Skywalker is struggling with his his hand. Will he become more like his father in? Instead of well. No because that's silly. And and so I think gator was particularly painful example, because it is intensely frustrating to suddenly become disabled. And if you show any of that at all it immediately veers over into this villainy, you know, don't become a bitter cripple. You have to be the happy up beat cripple at all times. Or you have. You know, gone over the edge to the dark side. And there you will stay and I used the seaward there, and I feel like hand because it's internal to me because it's it's the group that I am part of. But but it is something that just gets frustrating having to live the the perky constantly cheerful or else tip over into being this kind of villain. An honestly what I would like to see is villains who are rounded people with many traits whose disability doesn't seem to be reflective of their in most soul. And I think the way once again the way to do that is to have more disabled characters. Well, I was thinking about the gay strong place. It was it was disappointing. I think that's a fine line. Because one of the people one of the I read said, well, the way they try it is it's the worst thing that could happen to him despite the Hof the human race is being wiped out. And I looked at it. Well, that's true. But thinking about it from appeal selfish point of view. Yes. The whole human race might be wiped out on that might make you incredibly sad. But oversee getting suddenly getting a disability rather than, you know, growing up with it like many was have a can be quite life shattering. And I think there's a fine line to walk between sharing a character who is genuinely dealing with suddenly having a disability when they had number full compared to, you know, having a disability goes this is terrible. I must own evil. I think there's still scope to kind of explore happens when someone who didn't have disability suddenly gets one full whatever reason. But I think too often they just push into making ten completely insane. I'm not seem such a wasted opportunity. Well, and it's so lacking empathy that there there's not the moment. We're anybody says, well, you know, what I would probably have some pretty dark moments too. And that's me. Maybe human and something that we should all acknowledge and deal with they had the opportunity as I think, you're absolutely right that yes, all of humanity was destroyed, but you are allowed to also have a bad day. And you were allowed to have things that are even bigger than a bad day that matter because they happen to you that you know, when a tragedy strikes in thousands of people die it also still matters. If someone close to you gets a cancer diagnosis and both are allowed to matter. They shouldn't detract from each other. I was also quite interesting because we took people with disabilities becoming villains, but there's also horrible trend within media to show your own Italy, resulting in his ability. And I think that you was talking pet dolphin. Adrian a Mickley not the fest. Exercise full till whatever is what does it make in full full five and six the original level. Original trilogy way. He just turns up as a character as Mercer said little disabilities. But then you kind of get back to the prequels, and suddenly he is a slightly annoying person. I saw you know in kid he grows up untenable, I'm because of his evil nature, then becomes disabled, which is just another really terrible trope. It's it's a bit. Like what you were saying earlier Mercer about like the Batman villains where the villains kind of that outward appearance becomes a Representative. You know, the the representation of the evil within the joke, kind of becomes as ugly as his soul. Quite that dramatic. But that's the kind of thing. And that is a really terrible Trump that we see a lot where it's like that. Saying that a very visible physical disability is used as a way to. So if like visually flag someone as a villain, which is just awful. Well, it's validating the reaction of small children of icy something that I don't understand that is different. And it scares me. And instead of saying, okay, but people are varied. And that doesn't mean that this person is scary it, you know, when you have this kind of cartoon villain thing going. It says will. Yes, they they look scary because they are scary. And it it kind of validates the worst instincts that humans have. I was just thinking about beauty and the beast an how if you think about it in these Thames, it's actually kind of not a very nice story of looking taking the kidnapper falling in love with a kidnapping falling in love with a kidnapper side. Away from it as well. But the beast is kind of horrible while he's a beast. And then as soon as he is good again. He's the lovely handsome prince. What would though at night? Really? Kiss. He's actually like he's not horrible to. Okay. Yeah. He might have a beastly appearance. But he's always being the same person. He is inside. Right. It depends on which version O associating doesn't have good manners. He's got. No. But that's before he was based. I should be going with this. Yes. The depending on what version of the story, you're dealing with. But quite often he was horrible in mannerless, and they decided that because of that he would become Darth. But no, no sorry different story. A beast, and it really does reinforce the if you see someone that you perceive us as ugly or malformed. It's because there's something wrong with their person hood, not just wrong with their health. Well, fairytales a a really terrible this. I was just saying to make him before we started the I was trying to rewrite a fairytale for. I'm coming national fairytale day on chose Jack Madden identify any of you wear of it. It's a story at bats to hunchback's who end up losing that hunch while Saatchi, no one is really nice and sweet and ended up having his hunch taken away from the fairies on the other person is really terrible and ends up having to hunchback's. I was desperately trying to rewrite it in modern way that would would make it mole sympathetic, which, you know, show the the disability didn't really matter. And there was there was just no way. I mean, making sent through miscreants link about five signs, you'll stories ablest on even with the best possible spin on it. This story has at least three problems with it at the five. And I think there's a lot of ingrained stuff that we don't even think about the just like you say. A little bit like beaching the base. But also let John Madden and all the other things. All the fairy tales, you see everybody is is much cute on even in what's reponsible where the principles window and his blind. When he finds rapunzel, she cries as onto his eyes, and he has a slight stowed, and you know, even though that's left act. Most fairytales it's it's still within all psyche. And it still replicated I think even on a very basic level. Although I have to say hats off to CBGB's he seemed to be doing an excellent job of getting a lot of different able bodied people within that presenters. And also within the children that they have participating in the programs. They have sorry just to chat up CBC he'll doing very well in this area. I wanted to bring up body augmentation in science fiction, you end up getting representation of things amputees certainly moso than that. You do. Fantasy. But they then you have this problem with becomes a look, I'm now CPA human because I've got this super strong arm now all. Yes. Oh, kind of like Daffy data, and the, you know, he's very strong can do all these things because like psalms, Alexa, rebuffed dick, and so on and it's interesting because body of meditation seems to be just it's around now that people are playing around with it different kind of technologies and a lot of science fiction. Seems to want to include that kind of thing in the stories. But I'm not sure there are many examples where it doesn't become kind of again. Maybe maybe it's more like what what what was saying earlier with the kind of magical. Oh, yes. I had a terrible accident with a factory machine, and I lost all my limbs. But now, I'm even better and even stronger than I was before and it kind of glorifies it. Well, I think one of the things that that I see with body. Augmentation stories is not so much glorifying as I see them reflecting a deep seated insecurity about being human that one of the questions that seems to be of intense interest to a lot of science fiction writers is where is the line where people no longer Countess human. And I really would like for us to be less concerned with that line. And just go forward assuming that other people count as people because we have done the worst things as a species when we don't so they're they're not looking at analogies. Like, Mike grandmother has had a knee replacement. Nobody nobody asks will is she less human because she had her knee replaced with titanium one, you know, I wear contact lenses, and nobody. At that augmentation and says, yes, but are you truly human? And so I think that rather than either glorifying body augmente tion or having these moments of, but will I lose my humanity. It would be refreshing to deal with more stories where it's just something that people do to deal with either problems that they have or problems they would like to solve in their environment and just move on with it acknowledging that everybody really truly is still human, and we don't have to have this kind of insecurity about it. Yeah. Totally. If you love me speak to you Marissa, but it's not been a wonderful upset because we just keep agreeing with everything you side. Hopefully, we disagree like crazy. Whereas like, it makes perfect sense. I'm sure you know, what should be more controversial. And yet controversial. But instead, we're also you gonna get absolutely this needs to happen. So why hasn't it happened representation? Well, toward it is legitimately hard that it is the kind of hordes it is worth doing. But I think laziness is quite honestly, the main answer. And when I was revising the book that my agent has at the moment, I noticed that. I had not put any disabled people in an I had myself a little pity party about why do I have to make this secondary character? Good disability rep. Why does it have to be me? And then I thought well pull your socks up. It's because it needs doing and I went and did it anyway. But would I have had that thought if I wasn't disabled myself? I don't know. Yeah. Does it full to people? Who are you a native representation to do the representation on quite often? The answer is. Yes, you know. Should it be? Yes. We'll know. But it is one thing that I think won't be coach reversal in this group that I wanted to touch on that is we have not as a community. We have started to have conversations about sexual harassment and assaults you know, as a science fiction and fantasy community. We have not even begun to talk about how that intersects with disability. And I don't want to do that here. This is not the time and place, but I do want to fly get that that is something that needs to happen in the future. Because I know I'm not the only one who has stories where intersection -ality was particularly horrific there. But we we have not even gotten to that part yet as a community, and I think that it sorely needed. And I'm not. Looking forward to doing it. Well, hopefully, if you know just things like a token, not that we the gold standard, but people talking about better representation and bringing light to these issues. Hopefully, those conversations we'll start your hoops. So to we like the ripple like the tiny tiny tiny drops in a giant potent? One day ripples might reach the show. Well, if we do it in a few of the people do it on their lots and lots of little Stein's, though, create giant great big ROY waves that will bring about a major change. It's a good thought. A huge. Thank you to Marissa's Lincoln joining us on this episode of breaking the gloss LIPA. 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Building A Successful Company Overnight with Henry Schuck, CEO of ZoomInfo

Mission Daily

45:36 min | 7 months ago

Building A Successful Company Overnight with Henry Schuck, CEO of ZoomInfo

"On this episode of Mission Daily we sat down with Henry Henry shock the CO founder and CEO of Zoom Info formerly known as discover org. When he was in school Henry loved the law and he enjoyed the work but he ultimately fell felt he was destined to create something more using his entrepreneurial spirit? Eventually Henry started discover or in two thousand seven at the age of twenty three while still attending law school and on this episode of the show Albert and Henry linked up to discuss how he made the quick switch from wall school to creating his own award-winning tech company. Plus he discusses the rewards of working hard to meet your goals and the importance of listening to the business enjoy. This episode mission daily is created by our team at mission dot Org. How's it going everybody? Welcome back mission daily today special guests with us. CEO Founder Zoom Info and we shook. This is very rare where we've had a guest on on where one of us has been a customer the entire time so just full transparency for everybody it was used to be called discovered. I use discover work back in two thousand eight. I believe the company was founded around two thousand six or seven the up two thousand seven two thousand seven so I've used the product since two thousand eight and went to another company. We didn't need it. I went to another company. Brought it there. You're at shoppers. In then we know of your company today I would say eighty business. That's out there. That needs a prospect. which has all of you needs? Let's Zoom in vo now. Why don't you tell us? Exactly what Zoom Info does sell the most simple way to explain. It is that where a directory of businesses MRS and people at those businesses accept our directories incredibly deep around both of those things and so when you look business inside of Zoom Info. You don't just I get the name of the business and where they're located you get all of their locations. You get what technologies they currently use. You get an org chart of the decision makers you get eh industries. Aaron what products. They're launching what they're spending on in the coming months In the coming year who their new executives are who the head of information formation security is for the little division that you forgot existed so really deep information on companies. That's constantly changing right 'cause companies these are constantly changing and then really deep information on the people at those companies. And so who are the decision. Makers what is their direct phone number. Who Do they report to? What are they responsible responsible for? What sort of initiatives have been involved with at the company so that when you're reaching out to a company enriching out with the right message to the right person percent at the right time so I'm going to take you back to two thousand eggs? I think that we gotta go back to the start. That was the pitch that wanted to. Your sales reps gave to me now. My first step being skeptic. That's there's no way you have all this accurately because prior to then or if we say especially at that time lead products. Let's say we're full of inaccurate information. Twenty plus percent of emails would probably bounce. Yep maybe maybe worse they now they told me that you guys were like ninety something percent agar making that number up right now but I can't remember exactly. It was a hi number ninety five percent at the time I said that's BS. There's no way right and I said give me a sample and so I ask for a sample and the amy sample all of a random criteria. I which I was shocked that the guy could just pull data from it did work one hundred percent like it was one hundred percent accurate so I was like I guess we gotta buy this thing. I would hope so. We kind of made our bread and butter on the idea. That this information information on people and their professions and companies in in general is constantly changing the only way to really add value to the sales and marketing processes to make sure all of that information is constantly up to date and accurate. Because you know ten years ago sending an email bounce twenty percent would get you bad campaign results today sending an email that bounces twenty percent. That gets your domain blacklisted. Your Co unable to send messages from the domain. It keeps you from communicating with your customers. The systems of disguise on so much smarter martyr over the last ten years that you can do real damage to the entire business by sending a list that just bounces twenty percent ten years ago. You might get away with that. This is not the world all the way live in anymore. Let's do this. I WANNA go back to the original creation. What used to be discovered house whom Info again? So you're studying at law school. I read a little bit about yourself that you were working for Like a similar type leads company. Yep but you obviously decided to break away and do your own thing. What was the catalyst for that and you're not a developer? At least saying I'm not sure. How did you go about that because you obviously saw technology was gonNA be the driver? That's going allow us to happen. Yes so I. I was a stroke of luck when I finished my first year and Undergrad. I needed a job and I went on the. I went to Undergrad at the University of Nevada. Las Vegas I went on the job board just looking for any job that I could find and I found this position at a company called I profile. I didn't know what it did but it paid twelve dollars an hour and I had racked up two thousand five hundred dollars in credit card debt after my first year and I just needed a job and so I went in I interviewed. I got off for the job on the spot I went in. I didn't know what it was. I was really just waiting for the MGM grand to call me. So I could go work. There needed something in the middle so I took this job and it was me and the founder and this is two thousand and two and he was selling annual software subscriptions to a database to technology companies. This she's like pre linked in and then went into the subscription model which was really new in two thousand and I worked there from two thousand to two thousand six so between the ages of eighteen to twenty two and during those four years I got a front row seat to growing a business. 'cause as we grew from about three hundred thousand in revenue to close to five million in revenue that's taught in that time totally and it's also like the fundamental stage of a business so it wasn't like I came there at five million things. Were already moving. I got to watch the whole thing. kind of like get Built in and build it with the founder we got to five million in revenue but it was still like five million in revenue and six employees and so there wasn't really a career trajectory trey from there and it was still just kind of a lifestyle business that the founder wasn't really interested in creating a real business around so I said look. This isn't going to be your gasoline. Six employees is kicking off a lot of cash. It is kicking off a lot of cash. And that is why he liked that structure and he wasn't worried about competitors competitors and it was always designed to be a lifestyle business and so I laughed and said look I want to do something different. I went to law school in my first year in a friend that I had recruited to that business which was called I profile called me and said hey we should start something. That's like this that doesn't have to compete head on but look there's obviously this great great opportunity there and the business wasn't investing back into the business. We can build something where we're investing back in the business and trying to build something bigger so we launched should after my right at the end of my first year law school and had our first customer three months later the company grew organically through two thousand fourteen where we bought brought brought on private equity investors in two thousand fifteen we acquired I profile which was an interesting full circle moment and then we went on in a choir did some emanate we acquired a competitor of ours called ranging in two thousand seventeen and then in February of this year we acquired zoom info and then merged discover Oregon's zoom info together and took the show name because although I came up with the name discover org they kind of sucks as the name people were much more likely to mess discover Oregon up to get it right it was like when someone got it right as I allow allow they they called it discover ornate in college discover dot org or discovery or discover or discovery dot org so it's kind of like a great opportunity to rebrand brand new name out to market so that's where we are today we have eleven hundred employees three hundred and fifty million in annual recurring revenue. The business is profitable trouble and growing. And we're providing this sort of core function to sales and marketing teams. which is my core job if my job is to go out and generate new business S. than the foundational layer of being able to do that is to understand the companies that I need to sell to and the people at those companies who are GonNa make buying decisions about my products and services and once I know those than knowing the right time to reach out to those companies and reach out to those people become sort of the second most important layer player and so we're providing providing data that gives you the companies and the people were providing software layer on top of that? Lets you rank those companies. He's in rank those people based on criteria that they're most indicative of the next buyer of your product were integrating all of that to crm in marketing automation tools. Yeah to the crowd crowd. That doesn't know what some of the things that you just said. means it literally means one person with out much time can look up a one thousand plus accurate leads flow them into a campaign in basically act as another ten. SDR's Yep Yep that's what we use it for at least in the past. But I want to take it back to though that beginning because this is what's really fascinating so you saw an opportunity right yup but it doesn't sound like you have a technical skill. Did your your co founder. How the technical skill I knew what we needed to build right? 'cause I just kind of watched it so I knew I needed a product and and and so I needed data and then I needed a software layer on top of that product and then I knew I needed customer so I need to know who my potential companies knees and people were so we went out and we built the data and actually when I was in high school I worked on political campaigns and there was a guy who was around the political campaigns pains. Who did all the data and tech work and I called him and said Hey? Can you build a wrapper around all of this data. Can you build a software package so that yeah I can sell subscriptions to and he did kind of at the last minute we had like the day we were gonNA launch. She put up a website the night before that incorporated rated R. Data and then and then we kind of built on top of that system and look. If I could go back I probably would have spent the six months that we were building. The product learning how to Code and at least been like really. I kind of really prepared to handle engineering. Because I didn't know how to code still don't know how to Code and then I was consistently Kinda trapped by having a third party developer. Who owned all of our code and because the business for small I didn't I couldn't really afford to hire somebody fulltime and that would have been the the ideal way to do it? Spring and a VP of engineering full-time give him some equity in the business and have us all work together it would that would alleviate the need for me to be in the code but it was it was we use the third party data structure existed for like six years and it's pretty painful fault. Innovate when your engineering team doesn't sit alongside you. Oh Yeah I've been there as well when every time you want Ah Code Update. It's like oh it's a change order. Plus you have to wait for whenever it's ready. They can do it right whenever they can do. And then they don't really understand what it is you're trying to accomplish and so you end up with something that's sort of half baked a lot of back and forth and then you become like I became basically the person who could understand whether either something was a really difficult ask or something was an easy ask and so our customers or employees. It's a hey it'd be really great if the platform could do blah blah blah blah and I would go. Oh that's an easy one. We should do that. Let's go do that right now. Or that's a really complex. One let me think about it as it relates to the prior the other priorities. No no I know exactly what you're saying. I'm trying to understand like how your time was split because this is what's fascinating right so you're at law school. Yup You did very well and all school. I did well in law school. I know law. School takes up a lot of time. So you got you got this thing. You've got the software product you're working on. You got outsource contractors. I mean where's your money coming for Kazeem. You're spending some money definitely there. You're all your time is probably split between books and this like how. Are you managing yourself at this time. Did you ever feel like you were going to give up or just take me back to your mindset. At this moment without of the company I decided look. I'm going to do this thing so I pushed all of my law school classes into the evenings and so oh my law school class and it didn't like people were taking law school classes that fit like what they wanted to do or prepare them for the bar exam. I took whatever classes. This could fill a schedule from three thirty till ten PM. If it was available after three thirty I took that law school course and so I would wake up at seven. Am and I'd work until three. And then I'd go to law school from three thirty to literally ten and then I was engulfed in the work so during law school classes. I was responding to emails and building marketing campaigns and sending marketing campaigns and responding to customer emails. And that's kind. How worked and I think I probably have like Fridays off? So Friday was like a full day of Discovery Org Zoom Info work and I think the most the time life felt close to defeated was we lost the company in. Oh seven and I have no money but I put twenty five thousand dollars on a credit card. And My co-founder Twenty twenty five thousand. Yeah big. Bad My co-founder put twenty five thousand dollars on a credit card and that was sort of our startup startup capital and then maybe the second month we launched the business or the third. I ran across. This website of a company called Rankin. They had never heard of it before. And if you read the website there were doing exactly what we were doing except that was founded by a serial entrepreneur trooper Noor who had just sold his business for like one hundred million dollars to a private equity firm and was basically doing it. Again and assembled assembled a team of executives he had worked with in the past and everything just sounded better and looked better funded and I was like. Oh my goodness like this. This is the worst thing that can happen to us. Like how are we going to compete in a world. Where these guys who are as well funded as they are are going to be the in every one of our deals and I just I think at the time? I just tried to pretend like it wasn't a big deal and just kept telling myself like it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. You're going to be able to beat them like you're going to strategize your way around them and and then I think we were just like over time. We were grittier. We're we're more dedicated to winning. Then they were like we really wanted to win and so we would figure out how they would sell against us. And then we'd pivot an entire our story or the entire way we went to market to sort of compete against that motion of theirs and they'd get caught up in it. We would be like for six months. That would work work. And they'd figure out how to rebut it and then we'd figure out some other new way to go to market or to position our products and services and would give us another six months of a lead we ended up acquiring a ranking in two thousand seventeen and the time we're about twice the size of them and we kind of took off at some point in two thousand fourteen and really started taking market share but the the lesson there is number one pick a big total addressable market. Like whatever paying point you're trying to solve it's a big addressable market. It doesn't really matter if there's one or two or three other compare competitors and they're going to do something that they don't that you're going to do something better that they don't do and you'll be able to highlight that and you're GonNa win deals along the way until you have the time and the money to sort of have a full-fledged solution but we're lucky lucky enough to be in a really big market and so we were able to attract customers even though we had better funded alternatives around us. Yeah I want to give back to. We just said they're like the concept of just better right. So you kind of alluded to your in a six month. Like almost like a seesaw battle. Where you're in the lead that you fall on the and leave and you fall behind on? So how'd you make sure your product and services were better like was it a brand promise I'll get like example is southwest built is business. Obviously on low-fare air air airfare low airfare right like they focused maniacally on. What were you focused on? maniacally to make sure that you had an advantage over your competitors so I went in probably the the two thousand ten or two thousand nine I met with one of our customers and he said the thing that you guys have have Henry that nobody else has is the direct dial phone number. Nobody has the direct dial phone number the way you guys still so our customers who are sellers. I need a direct phone number to contact these buyers and we had we had been focused and you could put quotes around the focused on direct phone numbers but we never early viewed it as a true strategic advantage so this was like on Wednesday in Seattle on a Thursday. I came home Jim back to work until look focus needs to be direct. Dial phone numbers. We have ninety plus percent direct off on numbers. I'M GONNA track every day. I'm going to look at every record that goes in. And look when you're putting in records records in our system that means more than nine out of ten have to have a phone number just for us to stay even and ninety percent and so we just maniacally Michael focused on the phone number and every time we were in a competitive situation. We'd go. We have ninety two presenter. Dial phone numbers we. We have ninety three percent direct. Dial phone numbers you know. We're always over ninety ninety percent off on numbers and that was such a like it was a visceral thing that our buyers understood understood. They knew why you needed direct on numbers and so when you would tell them yeah nine out of ten times you pull up a record in our system that's going to have a direct expel number attached to that. It was just like an objective. Truth that they can wrap their minds around and so that really drove. That was one thing. We're maniacally focused on and the second was just quality. We put in in every one of our contracts. We Guarantee Ninety five percent accuracy and it didn't matter who else you were talking talking to. Nobody would would put their money where their mouth is what the guarantee like it's in our contracts in every single one of our contracts and if somebody else also telling you that they have higher quality data than US tell them to put their money where their mouth this put in the contract then give a guarantee around it because I give a guarantee to every single one of my customers about the quality of our data because I recognize how important that is I can remember back to. That's the reason why we bought because your company replica remember. gave me a random like so I would say for example. Hey I want to find people who have specific software product because we sold Ansari software product against it. You don't e- we can pull a random sample. Give me like twenty companies with this software that have between one hundred and two hundred employees please based in Kansas like making idiots like our state then they would just call it and there it is and I was like okay else fast so I need so I gotta ask ask. How did you get that? I know exactly how you guys do it but I still don't really understand. How did you get that accurate one? We were everybody was at the point of entry into our system. All the data's one hundred per sack you're so like we were using Cubans so we built the company and today it's it's it. Fundamentally Technology and systems and machine learning that drives the collection and maintenance of the data and then humans that deal with the anomalies. But what's to how he we started was it was humans gathering the information plugging it in a fully Acura way and then we built systems on the back end to validate that data Every three months so we would touch every record in the system at least once every three months and so that meant we either made a call to it and so we built actually software author that would call into a company. It would listen to a voice message it would store that voice message and they would call again three months later record the voice message acid and just basically do a Zam between the two files were they the same good were they different gold figure out if the phone numbers wrong and so we sent the emails to everybody in our database every three months and we actually sent them surveys. And so we'd say like tell us what you're spending money on and what are you buying from from a technology perspective. And what is your technology stack. Look like and so just the sending of those surveys gave us this amazing feedback mechanism because emails would bounce and so we'd be able well the capture those emails that bounce than we feed them back into the platform and then over time. We built integrations into marketing automation systems. Where when our customers integrated rated one of the things that they pass back to us was the bounced bounced data and email confirmation data? So now we have hundreds of customers who every day pass US emails the balanced and emails that confirmed and so we're able to use that exhausted. I kind of just a garbage data. That's coming off of marketing. Automation systems to keep our data set cleanse that scale. So there's two things fundamentally that I'm surprised by is number one. The original way you guys did. This was straight up calling into companies and asking them to verify admission permission mindboggling to me people the answer and then then you had the survey data which again surprisingly. You're you're saying people would answer. I'll just say a still work here or I'm not exactly sure though survey said you don't have to say but so yeah no our surveys with say like. Hey we're doing a survey on companies that are similar size and we want to understand where your technology stack looks like in comparison to theirs. And what sort of initiatives are coming up on the horizon for you and what we would do is after they would answer we'd we aggregate aggregate all of the data and then we send it back to everybody in an optimized way and so you could see like oh across my industry in the companies of my current size this is what other. CIO's are investing and this is how other CIO's technology stacks. Look like and you can get Kinda like really interesting industry data and we gave you a fifteen dollar gift certificate for filling out the survey lead a combination of those two those two things drove the response rates. And Look you send out a thousand surveys. You're not getting seven hundred back or five hundred or three hundred you really getting back. Like call center thousand now. It's a good day if you get forty ready back or fifty back but those fifty that you get back give you. Were really detailed information about a company's investments and infrastructure. And so you just kind of get out of the the mindset of like hey this thing needs to be fully scalable and then you just realize like every nugget of information you're able to pull out of those surveys is going to provide tremendous valued sellers and marketers and so it's okay that it only returns fifty out of a thousand because those v valuable to our customers so you're at this position now where your company based on whether you WANNA call it network effects are so yup. It's really hard to usurp now. Because in order for a competitor to be the in your space they have to have at least equal data plus better pricing. Maybe I don't know they'd have to have at least able data because that's exactly what people are paying for the value on it. They'd have to have equal data. It has to be integrated into everybody. CRM and marketing automation systems. They'd have to have this network effect of customers providing exhausted Austin that lets you cleanse the data at scale so you're integrations have to be really good and then you'd have to like we. Have we have one hundred and seventy person engineering. Yeah nearing team. That is constantly innovating against these systems at gathering delivered data and so the system is the data's constantly getting better. The systems are constantly getting smarter and so every day that goes by our data a little bit better than the day before. So you're very ultra street. I would call you an ultra strategic nick. CEO You've made multiple acquisitions. You obviously our seeding the forefront your industry. It feels like climbed to the top of the mountain. But I'm guessing you don't actually feel like you're there no and I don't think I don't think I'll ever feel like I'm there and I think for the most part I don't think any company that's rolling doesn't feel like they've reached the pinnacle of what they're doing. I think like the minute you start thinking. Hey I've made it. That's it like just. You should just leave that that day like that should be your dad your last day at work. Because it's all downhill from there. And I think every day we come in going like Oh my God. They're all of these problems across the pain of glass of our of our business. and which ones are we going to Saul I and as soon as we solve those thank you know. Some other problem comes up and some other problems some other problem so we're always gonNA be like solving things to make the product better to strengthen our market position to make our employees. He's happier so let's talk about the the the growth side of things right so you've got you you build your chops at easy said at the first company which which had ultimately I profile. I believe six employees. Yeah you start with your partner. You got some outsource contractors. But you're not. You've never really actually manage people that not any scale I would say. How did you develop those skills I mean because obviously no one wakes up when they with you know knowing how to manage a thousand people? Unless you've done it right so you had to learn all along the way Yes for sure so I will say when I was in Undergrad I was student body president of UNLV. See for a year. Which I think at some schools is kind of a hokey thing to do but UNLV not meant? I managed two point one million dollar budget. It and I had twenty employees and I was twenty one and and I actually I ran as this kind of an outsider An outsider and so my whole plan was like I'm GonNa tear this place apart when I come in and we're going to run student government like a business and it's going to feel I'm very different than it does today where it's run as a student club and so I had this year of operating of operating a two point one million dollar business on my own where I was. The I was the decision maker. I could decide what we spent on. I decided who we hired Anhui fired. And who ran the different programs in what we brought not in so I had this great year of learning there and then not just gave me my gave me confidence because we accomplish everything we set out to accomplish. I was like authentic to myself during that year. I would Iran soon government the way that I always imagined I would run a business and so then when we took when we started when we started discover Oregon. It was sort of like can I carry that through and so I did and the business gets a little bit bigger and a little bit bigger bigger and bigger and I think the thing that I learned along the way is that you kind of always need to listen to the business. The business is going to tell you sort of where you you should be spending your time. What you should be focused on? The business is going to tell you where your employees are falling short or where you have talent challenges. Where are you need to upgrade talent and bring in New People? It's just a matter of whether you're going to listen to it or not and there are lots of times where I didn't write I it's like the business was telling me something and I just rationalized the reasons for its failure so it's hard marketings. Our Marketing Department struggled between two thousand fifteen in two thousand sixteen and I should have made a bunch of changes during that time but instead of listening to the business I just made a bunch of excuses for it. And let's just like it's just not healthy and you know the right answers and the business is telling you a story and it's up to you to listen to it and if you you WANNA listen to it in rationalize put you know. Leave it out scar tissue. Then it's always gonna be sort of an ugly part of the business but if you want to like listen to the business have avid tell you like. Hey Henry you can't be in the weeds on these five things anymore. Because now there's a thousand employees and so you need to be more or high level more strategic more thinking twelve to twenty four months out. The business wasn't telling me that one where five hundred employees but it was telling me that when I was a thousand and so so listening to that and making sure that you're changing who you are and how you run the business based on how the business is performing what it's telling you I think is really really important. I was Gonna I tell you one other thing about starting a business. I almost forgot and I think this is just great advice for anybody trying to figure out what what fits for them when I was in law school and I did well in law school but when I was in law school I worked really really really really hard like and it was painful work to like writing briefs or doing this assignments for law school. It always felt like a grind for me and I worked really hard and for every like every ounce of effort I put in. I got like a little little bit out of the other side. And so I'd have to work way harder than those around me to be at a at a at their own level and so people also made it look easy easy like they came in and they wrote their briefs looked really simple and I was like you know killing myself every night trying to be of the same quality and then I and I noticed the same in kind of in sports like engulf. I tried to golf for years. I'm awful at Golf. I work really really hard like I try to practice and watch videos. I never get better at all and the people around me are like making it look easy and I realized at discover Org I would put in a work really really hard but the rewards that I would get for that effort were always outsized compared to that effort so it was like the opposite of law. School where I would work really hard and get a little bit out with discover Org. I would work really hard and I'd get a lot out of it. That's like a better natural feedback loop right right. You're you're telling you that you're good at your decisions are good. You're in your just. Your talents are lining up with the profession you jus- and people you know these quotes that are like you know. Find the work you love and you'll never work a day in your life kind of thing that's not really true. It's just like you'll be rewarded more for that work and when you're like rewarded boarded constantly for the amount of effort and work. That you put in work doesn't really feel like work like I can work. I can work sixteen hours at Zoom Zoom Info every day and it doesn't really feel like work and I don't work sixteen hours a day but if I worked a sixteen hour day it doesn't ever hurt me wake up in the morning I'd jump on I start doing work. I work all day and I'm never like a never. I've never felt a day at work the same way I felt any any day at law school and I think that's kind of how you know you're doing the right thing and I played water polo in high school. It was the same thing. Every ounce of energy I put into water polo I was immediately rewarded by being much much better at water polo than I was before that effort. And it's like golf was the exact opposite of that. Take time to figure out where your talents line up with your profession because it'll make like your entire career much less painful than it would would have to be so. I'm curious like hearing about your story about the work effort Obviously very clear that you have a ton of passion for what you do you know where where what do you think happens is next the next ten years for Zoom Info. One of the things I was thinking of describing this is what I casually observed when I was customer as I almost feel like you could makes stock bets because you you know where people are moving and industries you know which headcounts are growing you know which technologies are becoming more prevalent. You know what I mean like no lot I feel like you could literally be the guy that says. Hey I know that this software product is like starting to spread like wildfire. You'll stay in the lead info place but do you think that that will will zoom info expanding into other categories. So how's the business changed from here and be one really interesting thing is that we are seeing more unique. The use cases happened with our with our product so the the one that you highlight here hedge funds are using our data for exactly that. So they're pulling all the data out and putting thing into their models and that's able to sort of help them predict which stocks to buy which stocks too short and that is a use case. Not One we spent enough time on but there are a couple who figured that out talent acquisition and recruiters are becoming a bigger and bigger part of our business. And really because they've realized that acquiring the next professional professional in your business feels very similar to acquiring your next customer and requires multiple. Touch points requires multiple meetings requires convincing and persuasion. You have to build a pipeline the fuelling of how of running a well run talent. Acquisition Department is very similar to running a sales department and it has the same inputs right. People specific tidal specific companies. Specific sizes specific technologies that they may use and so we're seeing recruiting in town acquisition. Become a bigger a bigger part of our focus and our business and then barely scratching the surface surface in the enterprise. We're realizing thing is look companies. went out and they spent a bunch of money on crm and marketing automation tools and sales automation tools and they filled it with just whatever data they had around around and then they told sales. Put All your information inside of salesforce and they did. You're honest about it. But their information in and then they didn't you create any mechanism to keep that information up to date to put insights around it to add phone numbers and emails. And tell you when your contacts leave and that creates a really big issue for sellers and marketers but I come into my crm and all I have is a bunch of dated information. I don't WanNa come into my crm anymore and so this major issue has gotten like more and more obvious to companies especially to enterprises and so we've barely early scratched the surface on the enterprise opportunity about twenty seven percent of the fortune. Five hundred clients of ours but some in very small ways someone very a big ways and so we have an opportunity to expand into that other seventy three percent but also expand our footprint across the twenty seven percent. We've historically been coach. Not An enterprise. Sales Enterprise focused company. So that's a that's nice tailwind for us and then the other cool thing that we find happening his and we see this like really in the mid West more than anything else is traditionally kind of call it old school shoe leather type companies are realizing not real realizing because their new VP's directors sales are are in their thirties and grew up in a digital world and they're coming into these positions where they run. They run sales per an H.. Back Company in the Middle East and and they go wait the way we go to market today is to drive around the city right down in different buildings like that. They're just doesn't in a thirty year olds point of view that just doesn't make sense as an effective or an efficient way to sell a product or service because they recognized recognized. This data is somewhere who has it. And how can I use it to make this whole thing easier and less painful for everybody. So you see the Midwest. West logistics companies manufacturing companies sort of waking up and going. Oh like we need a new way to go to market and we can't do it in the traditional sort of old school shoe leather way. And so how do we change that. So we have these cool tailwinds around big companies realizing the bed on. CRM was valuable but is knocked going as well as plan because of the data and insights in their systems. And then you you have this new crop of companies going. Oh we need Jew digitally transform the way we go to market. And how do we do that. Oh we need date on the types of people in the companies. And he's that we should be selling to really sit at the intersection of those two things. I guess how about recruiting this mindset of taking. Let's say a I would say from the outside world. Maybe it's not a sexy business right. 'cause like totally as a customer of leads I've been bombarded with people that say they have leads energy. I don't believe you I. I told I told the guy my board a couple of weeks ago I go look I have. We have somehow taken a business that sells business is to business data and made that like the coolest thing possible for a bunch of twenty five to thirty five year olds who come in every day and they sell L. and they renew this product and like belt world who I'm in a big part of our businesses in Vancouver Washington which is a suburb of Portland. So I'm competing with Nike and Adidas and under armour for talent for talent and I sell data that sales reps used to go to market and the level of energy and passion across the sales floor or the marketing floor is really phenomenal. I'm not to watch and it's because they actually. They're getting an opportunity today at this company to do so much more than they would at a fortune. Five hundred company where you would go in and you'd be a paper pusher for. God knows how long they're getting on the opportunity to to to sell the C- goes in a piece of sales and marketing my. VP of sales started at started at the company was his first job out of college and he had been catty before my sin my senior. Vp of revenue was a poker player before he came and worked here. My chief revenue officer for one of our products never balanced came here from also was a golf caddy and came worked here and moved up through the ranks and so I think people here are excited sided about the professional opportunity that they get. They're excited about being able to be six months into their job and interfacing with senior executives at companies and I think as long on is the business is growing and finding new opportunities. There's always going to feel that exciting for them regardless of what the underlying product is when look facebook ads. That's their business. But there are such a like you know aura around working for facebook and it's like it's just an it's an ad business but don't get yet you know. I think it's easy to get sucked in to companies. That look sexy on the outside and on the inside just kind of like every other company and I think we look less sexy on the outside but on the inside were very different than every other company I worked for a guy. He liked to oversimplify things to. He's like if you'd said. Hey a subways a great operation. He's he would say something like they just sell sandwiches but but all right so you got a lot of passion you fired up. I mean you're talking about all your other team members sound like they'll have like sports and leisures alike allow their backgrounds is. Is that who you are like outside of work. Who are you outside of work? D- Now now. I know you don't golf like golf. Yes I do not golf I am so I have a three year old a three and a half year old. Thank you very awesome. Although the month she was born was the literal worst month in our company's history. So that's a different story. Now she's awesome and it's a great so I spend time every obviously every day. Every day that I'm in town I spend in time with her and just from a work life balance perspective one of the ways that I I have work life balance is. I've made a rule that if I am in in town then I will see my daughter in the morning. I'll play with it there in the morning and I'll be home early enough to play with their for at least a couple hours at the end of the day as well and it doesn't matter I won't do. I won't do like a happy hour dinner or an early breakfast. That'll kill those opportunities. If I'm in town I have time with her before and I have time with her after because I also recognize like my schedule is GonNa blow up. I'm going to have to travel around on different days and I can't. I'M NOT GONNA windows windows days but I'm GonNa win the days that have control over. I work out every day. It kinda keeps my head clear and so I'll do something physical everyday so whether that's running running or biking or something at the gym and then and then I spend the rest of the time I have I spend with my wife or Basically sleeping and so. It's really like my work. My family and me and me is likes weeping and the gym and everything. Outside of that is hard to sneak in less than I think people have been watching ironman too much because because we get asked all the time. Quarter all these. CEO's like did you interview. I mean they go to work. They hang out their families. They enjoy quiet the time the hit the gym like they don't they're not like I remember not like going to cocktail parties all day long not by doing whatever it is that is but it would be very hard to do that and also like prioritize work and family very cool any words of wisdom is them for our audience so just to give you framework already tends to be we got like a interesting split on one side. We have sea levels and directors and VP's of companies that are trying to You know they're curious about what other companies are doing here. The words of wisdom of founders and then on the other side we have people that are probably. Let's say new to the workforce right. They might be starting out. They're coming for the first time so we have a nice dichotomy but most people are looking for nuggets of wisdom. I didn't know if you had an you'd like to share so I would say a couple things one if on the founder of the CEO aside something is wrong in your business. Don't be embarrassed about it. Just go fix all of these. Things are solvable. I spent the first six years of my career at discover org being embarrassed about the things that weren't going well and so I wouldn't talk about them and I feel bad about them. They're like dark marks against my ability and I realized realized later that every business has these problems and so my job is to just go fix them be okay with the things that are broken and be focused on fixing them and and that'd be my advice into the sort of the new professionals. I would say try to find that fit that I talked about earlier where the effort that you're putting in is truly being rewarded by the output that you're getting from that effort and look for that. Look for that to tie together really well in your professional career because when it does work doesn't feel like worked your opportunities opportunities serve themselves up for you and you'll be a lot happier and what you do every day so look for look for for that match and when you find it I think everything becomes a lot easier. Awesome Advice Henry. Thanks for joining us today. On mission daily thanks Albert. Thank you very much mission. Daily and all of our podcasts are created with love by our team at Michigan Dot. Org We own and operate a network of podcasts and a brand and in story studio designed to accelerate learning our clients include companies like salesforce their Customer Times Five Twi- Leo and Katara. Who worked with us? Because we produce results to learn more and get our case studies checkout mission dot org slash studios if you're tired of media news that promotes fear uncertainty and doubt if if you want an antidote to all that chaos. You're at the right place. 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Episode 115: Miss Americana + Gaga: Five Foot Two

The Film Buds Podcast

2:09:39 hr | 6 months ago

Episode 115: Miss Americana + Gaga: Five Foot Two

"You only play music you like and I'm getting by. What do you mean a music? Only play music. You like no you you play frigging amy wine house as the intro. Because Mark Ronson POPs up up. And then you'll play guy guys out tro if Taylor's if Miss Americana is not the Intro Song I was planning on it. You say that now you. You are calculating screaming it was and we are recording all right. Okay it's the you know how to you know they're in you can talk about fight club. Yeah they really stole that. Welcome back to the film buds podcast. Yes yeah it is literally the thing that is funny okay. I hadn't thought of that. But what would you think it was Henry. I all away. Maybe they don't know that they're ripping off fight club because potty mouth is you watch them soap yeah okay that's why but it also happens to be literally the soap from from my club. Yeah yeah that's so gross. Yeah this is episode. One hundred and fifteen and I'm chloe. I'm I'm Henry and thank you so much for joining us once again once again. Yeah it's great to have you with us and this this time around. We have a little different sometimes slightly different maybe one or two tower town. Yeah great movie but would you mashed asked if we should. We should do a film Bud. Worst parent movie pairing my best. You know my favorite pairing. 'cause I love love serendipity and I love the your accidentally so smart yeah. That's like a very henry thing the hustlers one and a short. Why did you think those two together because we did know but why did you know that makes perfect sense? Now if I've thought that's what you meant in terms of me. Yeah but that's just on purpose oak. Ken Okay Right. 'cause millions yeah okay. Continue no clock clock episode. Oh my favorite. Hey Ray continentals clock films. Oh No that was the dumbest thing you said Yeah okay the real reason because obviously directors in my cod. They're showing good fellas at silver spot. Are they who I can't wait wasn't going to say. Oh but the worst pairing of all time was tower. wrinkle good movie sure yeah. It's it's a documentary. That wasn't my no. I wasn't joining them because they were similar. It was purely obviously. It was just stupid. Thank you I know you had just. It's very you you had just seen tower and you're like Louis go do it. It's very you charming thank you. Henry Ain't no one can accuse you being calculated and that's a gift to you okay You'll avoid cancel culture. Yes but pairing a movie about amash shooting with a children's film. It's unheard of that probably genuinely the narrative. Yeah well anyways we are going to be talking about to music documentaries The first one is the new net flicks Taylor Swift Doc Miss Americana aw that song by a retro replay that in five foot to get this out of the way from twenty seventeen sure Henry Henry. This is okay. That's fine. I think that this is how it normally goes on. I think so okay. People are used to it and I don't mind it. It's just Dr Dynamic. Henry I gotta get this out of the way occas you know I have some obsessive compulsive tendencies. Can't stop thinking about this. She is five foot one inch tall. Yes it's not about her. It's about that song. Yes I know Henry I know I know I. I don't like it so cool. Oh Yeah it's not like she's aid issues you know. She's forgiven. Lebron James Fine colored five foot two is called Gaga Colon. Five foot. Two as if that's the fact you know issue is an astronaut. You Taller when you go to space. Yeah I learned that from from that video of teaching a five zero gravity that was over my head but I understood. I learned that you get taller. And you start toller in the morning interesting and then we have a little bit of news like that. Maybe we'll talk on the Hamilton movie announcement. She to Alison in about this. I haven't we a huge discount. Because you know she's it's everything she knows about. Its Disney attachments Hamilton. Hamilton talk with Lin. Manuel was there she was she was doing that Mundus. Yeah we'll see. I mean to be fair. She had she worked hard for that. She had worse. I shed a fulltime job in New York City and there she was in line your every day you know live in that New York Dream but oh my God yeah. Let's talk about that. That's what they're doing from a strategic standpoint and then some other stuff we watched like did you see the gentlemen. Are we not doing an episode on it. No his birds appraise next week. I don't think okay so we got Salat's to talk about that. That's like a mini. Put that in the title Plus Mini Review. Or you know you know. I've I've had my head exams. MM stuff do. That's what we haven't had any time. So yeah I want to can't wait sock that maybe we do as retro than at some point in the near future. Cool with with me semi Retro Retro Old Timey. But it's not 'cause now but they look like they're from the sixties Henry. How the heck are Ya? Oh not too bad too bad been you look a little little Frau's it said that in your face just betrayed you. Yeah Y- okay. I'm a bit tired. I had some two exams yesterday. I two you yeah and just a lot of work doing these days internship. It's going well just got out of that a little. While ago. He's got fired for hired killing it. Yeah I'm doing good fine. Just I had a peasant for I. Don't talk about. I have this. President is so overdue is GONNA present. This party favored verdict literally is what it is is overdue. We've stopped talking about it for at least a year. Now all right and I totally forgot. I can't wait. I'm just waiting for the the new green day album to draw on Friday so Carolina. Waiting you know Mazal tousands twenty sixteen. So that's basically it's about time killers going to do soon to or they will also pretty. Well we don't know when not that soon but it's coming it's in the works and the title is a trip tip and also the art so far is it trip. We'll see but my man never lets me down. Sometimes I gotta listen twice a man Mike. Okay I see Brando but nevertheless never let me down but also the band is deteriorated so right that that you know that your father know. What's the name of follower of all motherfuckers okay? So so different than my Second favorite band ramp our weekends title father the bride. which is what I was thinking not not to say? Ain't nothing say here's again father of all motherfuckers. I like that. It's good that marks wild it is wild but the title of the killers killers. Upcoming album is imploding the Mirage. That's a good name. I like it I like you. Would I hate it so but let I trust my man. I trust my man or have to look. Engine is like Grecian sculpture. It's like some call me by name. intro interesting yeah interesting now before we before we get to it. Should we do the announcement of the thing. It's your thing do it. It would do go for it all right. Well we were start from the very beginning. I'll God we had planned. No actually. It's funny I think Henry Henry Wilkinson actually was the one to announce theater buds on the show. I don't think I ever did. I think he did actually nerve users. They can't wait for them. Yeah and and what's still you could do technically yeah. Hey Three's enough if you'd like it could be like a holiday. Picture theatre buds with like those Candles for Michael's you know. I'm not fancy Yankee Candle Cave. They kennels from my perfectly good the Mason Jar candles where Michael Very seasonal. You know what I mean minute. Very Christmassy thanksgiving yeah. Yeah also because it's all the things I don't celebrate so keep it to yourself but I can't wait to listen to it. I'll I'll be there. Don't worry I won't talk much because I don't know anything about theater. How way you deal? Ambiguity deal premiere of theater buds next time. Allison Alison is in town. That'd be great. You three talk near Little Toy. She's off and I'll be sitting here in the car. I can be the moderator how like NPR. Maybe we both could just let them. Just let them off figured out. We'll figure it out but anyways so that should have been that'd be the name of our little network work. I feel like we have enough. We'll figure it out. Yeah Dat well we had planned on doing a third kind of spin off show. That would be around theater or centered around theater. Yeah but this past weekend we were going to record but sadly Khloe you had a fever and you're sick and you you couldn't do it. I have no recollection he did you. Were sick no I know that. What are we supposed to record this? This yeah yeah back in and since we didn't I had the day off Sunday and so I said well Henry what are you gonNa the do with your precious time is this. This was my first day off in a long time. I think since school has started back up on the Henry and then all of a the Senate will always play around with some some ideas some some artwork Microsoft paint. Yeah no not Microsoft paint but it is Ayubi Canada Canada. Yeah canvas that doesn't I. Don't like that sketchy. CANADA CANVAS WITHOUT THE S. No I think you know towns. I don't like it well. What's done Kendra? Well I started messing around I yes it sounds like a drug now does. Yeah like a drug. Dana's well like just both walking. Nj that perhaps so well anyways there is a new a new podcast officially well out. They're not not not recorded not recorded. The social media presence is there. It's all you need. Look a fire festival. Yeah that's GONNA be. That's it's going to be in a couple of months but it is the year job rule. No I'm Jabril. I'm just along for the ride gear. That dude And we it's going to be called. It's going to be a buds spin off not buds in the name. But it is. You don't need anyone and it's a podcast. I yeah it's a nyland centering. Around Discussions Open in-depth discussions of famous artists of all kinds. We might even do some interviews as chloe was thinking about pre show of maybe some local people and so it's going to be a great time and if you can follow us say what the premises if you care to. Why does did did you? I said Open in-depth discussions of artists. Yeah but there's like you had the what the season thing no. It's not just artist though now didn't you WanNa do it. Once who particularly came. By honestly like Mick Jagger maybe you know like that that's what I mean. I mean people who have really early risen to prominence and just and made come from unconventional backgrounds or just people who have had a very inspiring voice cemented their voice in in their field cleared. You Making Markle sure yes clearly we can. There's going to be some variety and so far I've decided Mick Jagger love my life not really. He looks like my dad. That's so he does Mega Marco. I M people lived with twenty okay. I won't and so yeah. Please go ahead and follow us on facebook instagram twitter. Those are all up now and the the website is very very early in the work. Well website are not yet but the artwork is there at all that stuff so please go ahead and follow us and that'll be a heated one. Yeah she has. She is an advocate for the nice to everyone. And everything like that as you should so there. So yeah that's that's going to be exciting three and I'm like cool. Well should we go ahead and champion exercise right before I came here as well I should. I should specify only to you know Henry very briefly debut. Did you walk home. No I did some stuff up upstairs I get some you. You went up the stairs. Get some equipment up there do you. Because I had been sitting all day at the internship and so I just wanted to get the blood flowing. So you Steph Jeff upstairs I do I WANNA guest Henry. It's not a whole gym. It's just like you know a couple pieces of the mouth. Yeah I have dumbbells. I have a pull up bar do. Oh my dead lift thing. Is that the long bar with the two things on the end. You do not pulled up. Yeah I have it up. Yeah Heck are you doing Henry. No it's squash up there. We the the long bar with the the The weights on either side. Yes I understand that right you lay down lift or no. You're talking. No no no acne squat I do. I mean nothing crazy about squatting or dead lifting four hundred pounds or something. It's just purely. That's what I do know I do not I do like I laugh. Though he'd be surprised we should have. We should have a Liftoff okay well cool. I do my lane down like a normal person person where it could get you by work that you know credit. I don't trust myself if I had someone else there I would. Yeah yeah I got my own gloves to. Yeah I don't use them but my sister got them for me. My sweet sister calluses and everything right. But I feel like to make me look like I. The thing is that I got to watch. I can watch Taylor Swift's documentary a couple more times make you make me feel like I deserve where the gloves no matter how little I'm I'm lifting all right. I ain't lifted much well. Hey you're doing sixty you're doing it. That's a good one sixty. That's pretty good. It's not great it's way less than JEMMA. Aw She's a little wood nymphs bright right but dang girl can lift. You should. Oh my God yeah. Yeah at the gym. That's crazy cool on women going almost twenty minutes you know yeah. Let's look talk into our review of Miss Americana and we have a clip. So take a listen. Just GonNa go have fun and no one out there that I know of in the audience actively hates me not get done face US totally Throughout my career label executives. Say a nice girl doesn't force their opinions on people a nice ace girl smiles and waves insist thank you. I became the person everyone wanted to be. I think that Taylor Swift. She is annoying over Martin France to guys like she's ten. Nobody physically saw me for a year. All right Miss Americana just premiered on net flicks and also at at Sundance right before. And it's directed by Lana Wilson and the Synopsis Is Reputable. No she did till they know. Twenty feet from stardom. She did yet great movie and the Synopsis Is a look. At iconic pop artist Taylor swift during a transformational time in her life as she embraces her role as singer songwriter and harnesses the the full power of her voice. Well Oh and I guess we should very briefly say we did talk about Taylor swift and Lady Gaga on the buds podcast. And check out that review your check that out. Yeah I yeah I can. I'm interested to hear what you say uh-huh and yeah well chloe. What did you think about this where you were you at all looking forward to it or was this just a another movie list to watch? I wouldn't I was looking forward to it per se. I don't know if allows even curious. Actually you know what you perked my phlegm as the chauffeur's say the where where interest I only became interested after after our discussion interesting you now. Because of how polarizing almost she is figure sure despite in spite of herself like just because people have emotions about her and a lot can put on just because of how she looks and who she is and mm her music and all that stuff right right well. That's true that's true that's true. Yeah so after that. I was curious but still not big big into it. I listen to also because of music buds. I listened to her new album in case you didn't and listen to the former The formerly for whatever in case you don't know I have not been detailed flip fan really. It's not like a thing you're not a swifty. Well hold your horses. Oh we had some big transformational shifts woke. Yeah Yeah Okay but in the past absolutely not I used to. I would say had some I would say disdain perhaps I it definitely still have disdain for her old music. I do not like it. I do not want to listen to it. It hurts my head and my ears and my my soul sure not a fan but my best friend growing up love love it. Yeah and then. I started liking. I liked nine hundred eighty nine pretty much. Basically just when she started working with Jack Antonoff who makes a plus apparent to them. This does we love arm. I love our music producer. Jim so I won't talk about them too much. They're not the focuses. No you had to love. The Jonathan Van Ness a appearances. Well Yeah not nearly as much as Jack in no of course. Not but I'm I'm yeah. I'm what I've told you. I'm more of a Karamoko. Orca I know but also knowing about politics and Jonathan and I disagree okay do we also say case. You're wondering yeah it's okay to practice a lot to keep up with. I know nothing about him. Other than what I saw on this so Birmingham now anyway. I'm now laughing your job in some disrepair and even that I'm not it's just funny. It's difficult to do. It's a world we live in. You know right yeah. It's like how when you learn a language when you're a baby super easy here. I am speaking English. You know you Komo ability but you see what I mean or you know Gary kindness won the world loves everybody. He really really struggled with that though. I told you we went to that. I'm sorry this Tanja but this is hilarious. We went to them. He and I went to that meeting. Because he's in the healthcare fire for all y'all of Hillsborough like a big thing until then he was part of his little chapter that went to this big beyond in healthcare like his little chapter of whatever healthcare for all y'all wasn't to speak at similarly thinking much bigger pool of people event thing right right right and that that much bigger in like healthcare is one subject. This thing is like big thing right. I'll just say it where he was there. Allied Democratic Socialist thing right which is very progressively thinking everything so at the beginning of the meeting. It takes it's way too long. Okay I understand that's important but takes way too long much like me telling the story. I not quiet. We have name tags. I'd say our pronouns going to everyone thing take forever but in any guests. My Poor father happened to be the first one so the person who spoke was like I'm all over just sounds like a very you know they might be into sure him right and my dad's like Whoa and I was like you're supposed to decide right. And and he said Gary Dr God the obviously means well ask him and I was even with him but he you know doctor. Oh God but fine. Hey you know what fine. I'm so sorry that was very tangential but tell me in front of a hundred mix up there. Oh he didn't even end up thinking I said he I gary he him after he said take Khloe she. We are excited on. My Name's Gary say. Wow My series just turned on its creepy. Anyway we should go back to the beginning. Okay no I'm not going to but you know what I mean. Okay from traditionally not a swifty swifty. Okay in recent years. I've liked her music more. Just like little like she started working with producers. I really like that makes it better. Yeah sure and I also have anything. She has a pretty voice she does. Yeah and Beyond that like yeah. You know what I mean. Didn't really look out for years with like all right. I like Certain songs without even on the new album lover which I listened to that what's called the album. Yeah okay which I listen to again for our other podcast. With first time I listened to the album and I tended to be like Oh this is obviously Jack Antonoff song but I Komo News to and everything and I like her. songwriting and I really liked the song lover. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I'm a swifty. Now like I listened to that song voluntarily many times had me. I shook yeah I know yeah. I wrote a paper on one of her other videos in college. That video interesting blank thanks base. I wrote a paper on that anyway for like film like a I chose like A. It wasn't a ballot. Just how it looked and everything My point is always become the here nor there on Taylor swift which I think is kind of her. Point was her point at least given the documentary tree like she didn't want you to talk about her personality very much. I guess But I never hated or anything like a lot of people do because I'm not gonNA hate somebody for how they looker. Who they how many people they date or donate or whatever yeah? I agree Especially when you can see all the the Looking for saying it's okay. I can't think of the word. Henry Mayo countertops me. The the the Unfit God don't judge them so everybody the unfairness for me. Not being able to think of anything in how the people are treated sure has for instance of course to call her. If I were man from her album which is a little heavy you know I prefer if which again. That's my point beyond say that I I like the time war but was that enough exposition for my feelings about this perfect. Anyway breaking up into two categories I I. We should talk about the documentary itself. And then because we're obviously GONNA go into how it represented her then how we feel about her because of course emotion is in movies and stuff as well plus you know whatever right I wanNA know if we Europeans changed at all I I will start off this way I sorry okay. Structurally the as far as the documentary. I think it was pretty. Well assembled I don't think it was. The it didn't make is a big point of this movie. I think that's really cool. It shows a girl kind of becoming a woman and comfortable with herself personal growth at. It's easier to show that because first of all we all know who she is second of all. We all have our preconceived notions that when they're kinda smashing smashed in your face. You're like whoa point taken. You know what I mean sure. Yeah and then not for all of us but there's a lot of related to that As easier to see it when it's a little more is a little farther away because it's all a big scale like like I've been through a lot of things like I think a lot of us have been through things so swift. It's been through even like the sexual assault thing radio tour But it's on such a bigger scale that is all very what should be very clear and then also it's kind of distant to. It's easier to to view new and so then taken at your own pace as opposed to do visceral which you know people can feel like things are so it was about her growth as a person and how the stagnation in that and then the eventual growth and all this stuff when everything kind of how her personality was molded by her career right so the they went back and forth a bit like temporarily. They kind of jumped around around. And I thought that was not conducive to story much. Like I like their into their current time interviews with her talking about her past and stuff stuff and I think that would have been a better time if you're going to reintroduce something from way before because how do I say they like put the years. Here's very dramatic document for oppose the the years like it was a blank black then plays like grandma right twenty nine hundred to show her. Jj but then they'd go back again but not to like show juxtaposition per se and to that kind of muddle the the growing up story. You know what I'm in so that irritated me or not your tate. I just I think that was not a bad the best form of storytelling but other than that is house. Put together quite well and I liked again and this is adjustment position between this movie movie and the and five to which is you know their purposes and doing so. I'm sure they're different but the purpose in this movie we now I feel like it's very clear like the goal is to tell a story about Taylor swift the famous person and use her a- As a way to show especially like the female suicidal plight and eventual growth and how it's motto smoothing how you shouldn't judge people for sure and all that because there's so many relatable like the whole thing about being like I know this might surprise you Henry I couldn't I couldn't super relate to like be a girl and say please and thank you'll be quiet thing I do say please and thank you but because I want to but I've never I was always taught to be polite but I've never had that like a thing but a lot of people do I know personally a lot of people who very very much grew up like if you're not a good girl then like you're more bad you know there's something it's not even describable what you feel like no I know what you mean which you know I can? I can really do but not nearly as much a lot of people and then the ties into also like all the components that are popular spy was a lot of people but especially amongst females. And you know like the sexual salty stuff can into that and like people to voice your opinions on mobile but and I thought those points that were really important to the movie. Were very well illustrated again through her. Life is unusual right. Like when she's telling and she's crying because she wants wants to do this so she wants to. It's a when she's sitting with her mom and her mom is the only one backing her up and her whole team. Who's all dudes and Grandad? Yeah you like you cannot say what you think. Even though what she's thinks is completely moral of course asked me more obvious quite black and white right like she thinks that people should have equal rights is not hard in my opinion but And the most of the people costumer awesome are privately that too but they don't believe it enough to think it's worth her losing some of her fans or whatever so you really do see what she's been up against and she was a child old. You know being told like you cannot say what you think even if it's some kind to help other people because you cannot do that earful well. That was long winded. And I've barely started. Let's give star ratings. Lets you think Henry. Well I I well I liked it. I I think there's some parts that some of what you had just mentioned some parts that I really really enjoyed and I thought were compelling and other parts that I I find found a little tiresome I think the the last twenty twenty five minutes the best part of the movie not only from a filmmaking standpoint point because it actually yeah easier maybe to because it's all like real time if you will it takes more time in going into a single situation or subject Whereas I feel like the majority of the film skipped through things so quickly that I didn't have a whole lot of time to let things resonate donate right and I think that if you aren't are already super familiar with her or connected? I think it's going to be. You'RE GONNA start to phase out a little bit. Is this your Gaga movie. Actually really more than this. I could have watched this ten more times. Really I laughed. I cried my eyes out really. Yeah I should you get just soberness are not like Taylor. Swift's I mean. I guess I can identify as a swifty now but only a- loosely. I I think her music I just think you know doing our darndest But I am. I thought it was really fast. I enjoyed the pacing. I was calling it was over. I was like and it didn't feel bored. I wasn't bored. I just wish that there were some pretty sensitive things that I just wish they had spent more time. Share exploring and or against similar to how the Final Act plays out. I just wish it had been more about that. Yeah I think think that embraces the fact perhaps too much that everyone knows who she is. Yeah yeah sure. And I think that all of the ideas that you had talked about being a pretty not only relevant but pretty universally get into the eating disorders yeah. The we started very relatable issues that a lot of people struggle with and I enjoyed all of that however I think that there were some sequences where I I just. I found her very tiring her. Yes like for example. The scene I found a very genuine the whole time. I'd WANNA be a friend. The the scene comes comes. I cannot the scene that comes to mind the I can too much comes comes to mind is the scene towards the beginning where she's on the phone with her producer or her agent and she's waiting to hear about the grammy nominations at the opening scene. Yeah Yeah and she almost starts crying her eyes out because she didn't get a grammy nomination and it's like here. I guess I just need to make a better record. And she and it's done in the way towards making her look like the only reason she wants to make a better album is so so she can get a grammy nomination like Henry Me River okay. So the point and the reason they opened with that scene particularly is in a way. Because it's so ridiculous right right in theory like Oh. She didn't get grammy nomination. It's not about that. It's about her whole life since she was like thirteen. Gene and a you know a girl before that and everything anyway. Because that's how we're build anyway. was built on exterior validation nation on. That's all you have even taken the movie when the tall you have and it's taken away or you don't get it or whatever you feel empty. That's very unhealthy. Right right out agree but at the same time. She's this millionaire Popstar. It doesn't but that's not the mental and emotional health. That's not what matters to you and I agree. That's that's what's most important but coming from that position it's not as not as relatable. I felt aside from some of her. nope it it's highlighting its highlighting the flaws and the Hollowness in What we deem important and and demonstrative of value in life? She's the she's the Pity me or her situation is the epitome of that. You know so I agree with that I then I think that. That's it's more from a a filmmaking failure because I don't think that that was communicated enough or woven together enough nearly as well as maybe they thought it was. I thought it was the movie though. That's what I mean. No I mean as a whole them. I think it's it's a failure even having seen what She gets to by the end. I thought that scene came across basis so shallow and I it just put a very bad taste in my mouth immediately and also this is purely. He didn't take his obsession. Imagine yeah who is like the first time she wasn't nominated for tragedy. Okay I understand and she I'm sure she and she does too on a on a cognitive level on intellectual level on an emotional level cool. It's like no. You're not good enough anymore. You're not good enough anymore especially as someone and again this wide ties into all of those values I think it was really Impression that they nominated to highlight and not in a woe is me way. She's been because of Her reliant on external turn of allegation eating disorders again. which again from the outside? You can say a because she says it's fine to be as I six. This is wwl right. trump ternal from a lot of people. You could say like Obu. She's a size six. That's still sample size. Whatever but that's not the point the point is she's if I'm number that you know she's starving herself because she sees one further so she has need that day? I know see those sequences. I had no absolutely relation. Need someone to be almost dying for it to be a empathetic. Oh whoa I don't think it needs to be either. I'm just saying scenes like that stuck out to me as very just pretentious and kind of eye rolling like the like like the not the line that like the scene at the beginning I. I'm not saying all the stuff with the eating disorder. She lived polite. I don't understand what you're upset about. She can't have help this the thing. You can't help crying you can't really make yourself cry and you can't stop myself from crying. She was polite on the phone. He's no that's fine that's fine but why care because that's where a whole life is built on. It's not healthy. That's why they show it. It's not healthy. That's why it's setting the tone for the whole movie. Is this your really in a pretty apartment within. She didn't get her grammy or nominations. And you know it's fine. I just didn't make a better album. which also shows us she's not saying that in an knocks way which I can get but an no shade notion is kind of like how my sister talks? Like a Lotta like Taylor swift for my my sister-in-law away because again I'm just kinda weird like I don't know I was on crutches when I was in all the external I've made my I live my own life just because I had no involvement. They buddy else really. You know what I mean. There's a lot I could what I knew. I had no choice but to be like. Yeah whatever right. Yeah AH whatever steal my graduates called me Robo right like that. But if you're more mainstream is were more normal todd and everything upbringing. I think. That's why gentlemen why my sister-in-law Taylor Swift. I saw more similarities. So like if my sister just the the reaction like go. I just have to make a better album. No it's not but the point is she just needs just that that her whole being good enough is is based on You know like a grammy nomination which does sound stupid. The point is stupid at the same time until we all feel it how we all feel indifferent stations obviously but we all feel an again with all of that said. I think it's just more so a failure of filmmaking talking. I don't think that I think that that's according what actually happened. Though the in terms of the overall how it's woven together I think is a failure. Seems like that. I don't think that it is nearly as as intricate as I think that they may think it is. I think it blows through scenes like that so quickly that it they just come across a shallow to me. I thought that and also this is. This is not the same why she made reputation. which was the album they were talk? We're which I liked but that's not the point. I'm saying you're saying they went by. They did that team then. They went back to two reputation the album which is the album but didn't get nominated right what she was an yeah But again she's hearst her response to having being not having reputation nominated was. I just need to make a better record. That shouldn't be the point. It should be the. I'm getting this message out there to people on connecting. It shouldn't be that that here. I need to make a better record so it can be nominated and look note and again whole plight about external validation. I think that's shown and through the movie very well. Okay you're up against the limits there have to when it was too much the extra She had to speak out because again the whole thing thing With the sexual misconduct thing was really the catalyst for her movement. Sure that is where the need for external validation allegation shows itself to be unsustainably unhealthy right because obviously the least Caustic thing to do would be to just not say anything. She chose to say something however quietly then he came back suited for a whole bunch and then Juiston for dollar and his West L. F. up but the whole movie is about showing that value and everything is intrinsic not based on what the world old says value sure. Yeah but it's difficult when it's ingrained in you not only from when you're born especially especially Certain people but then even more when you go into a field such as the music industry child right I I agree with all of that. It's just that I think that the again I thought the scenes were it was dealing with her eating disorder. And all of these these kind of slushy anything. Severe things comes across with wine e because she knows she didn't get the grammy nomination even though her upset with. That could possibly possibly come from all this other. Inner Tore Moyle is the thing. I think that how it's from to me. I think how the movie weaves all let together is a failure because it's it's a jumps through things so quickly. I do not have time to process okay. This is how this connects to that. It's just going from one event to another who her winning on another another award another award and it's just like I just another one another chose there's all these montages of her accepting an a an award. It just got talking about. There's far more that Michigan's another movie. We watch but Nah no no. No no no no are you talking about Ah The VM. As with Konya. No no there are these days now. That was completely forgotten all major. Yeah I forgot I finish really. I've never forgotten about that whole thing. which is a horrible thing? But I'm saying I think how it that the the pacing and editing. I don't think serves the story. I think if it had been maybe fifteen or twenty minutes longer and it had injected more information and and just just more more discussion about those certain though scenes I think it would have been more effective whereas it feels is almost like met them. This is what they wanted but it just that stuff comes across not nearly as deep to me and again also now this is this might be the same thing. We're talking about with her music the day right or not but again this is purely personal and I completely sympathize with with all of the human personal things that she's dealt with it didn't work for you not in a bad way to you by the way things go or whatever but I think it's the viewing it with sympathy versus Virginia with empathy. There's obviously a quicker jump. Dumps Dang thing with empathy. Sure more you relate something thing. The quicker compute not have that experience a ready ago right which is probably the sure where we're coming from different something purely from a personal level for whatever reason I just do not find her a endearing relatable person I agree I I mean not relatable one since that. I can't get where she's dealing with like. You have to be endearing and because they are choosing to focus on the documentary that I I didn't find if she's not enduring and she's not. I don't connect with her immediate level. It's she feels very distant to me a lot of the time. I completely backed her. When she was doing the speaking speaking out against the representative towards the end and dealing with these all these shaming that she had done but in other sequences like the one? I just talked about with how it's put together. She felt very distant. She felt very Kind of opening up isn't it. It's not healthy like I just said it's not a healthy. I doubt you'd watch that and she'd say oh. Yeah of course. I'm upset that I didn't get a grammy nomination. She said. No I'm I can guarantee she'd say no Taylor Taylor. Why are you upset? You didn't get a grim discussion. Isn't there it doesn't need to be. It's implicit it's like in the end in the end when she's having the She she doesn't have all the answers as the point in the N.. Wrench and having that discussion with the interviewer offscreen and she said Oh sorry talks and she said no why am I sorry. She's like I said I'm that's I shouldn't be sorry for saying what I feel like and the house tonight own with the money that I made of the music that I created such a true statement statement. But that's a it's a journey and it's double it comes off both a dozen come off well and you don't have that confidence. I just exist. It never works out show out of people have that especially again just because of society and not saying that it's exclusive to females those by any means or you know whatever but a lot of people a lot of I'm D- represented misrepresented. You know groups. People are going to have that and it doesn't. It's not good it doesn't serve anybody and that's the point of the movie. Sure I just. I don't think it communicated that nearly as well L. as well as you may think but I just I don't know I I found it very inconsistent with my my my interest and my relation to her I just. I didn't connect with it all that much on a with how it was directed I think it I I think it could have been far better and resonated far more I think for example even just thinking. It's not exactly the same thing as this person has passed away but like the amy documentary. That goes through her her whole life and her dealing with these constant photographers constant bombardment of people. As well I yeah. That's that's what that's what I'm saying. WanNa make they didn't she wasn't. She chose not to be a victim in this movie. That's what I like about. And that's fine by saying purely in terms of a filmmaking king perspective with how much time it spends discussing those ideas and with how many different perspectives. I think works far better than this. Because it it feels else so jumpy with going from one event to another to another that. I don't think there's the deep discussion as I think something like. Amy Does that deals with not exactly the same thing. 'cause you know sheep that truly did victimize her and but I have a clear timespan A. and much darker and she's I mean they. Did you know post. I mean. Doesn't that almost incomparable. Comparing bring it just as a looking at a massive pop star who has had severe criticisms and intensity and purely from a not saying what one like one is better than the other for film purely how they go about telling that story. I think works far better in that movie pitching to tell yeah. I don't think it works tar entirely. That's what that's what I mean. They are choosing to have a spotlight on her. And I think they could critics as a human as opposed to a in immortal like figure in Monroe and Amy White House they all fall into the same trope on all this stuff. Sure but I think that they you know they've chosen as opposed to one ending with uplift an imperfect journey upwards awards for the greater good. I agree that what it is. That's just what it is. No I agree with. I agree with the point and the message. I think that they're choosing to you. Make this a message. Observation of where she's Choosen for Chazan. I left to go right. I'm saying purely in terms of their choosing to making story around Taylor swift and putting the spotlight on her and I think that it feels unfinished to me. I think that there could have been so much more explored explored and I think just more of what you see in the movie. I think I just wanted to see more of that. I did. It have time to connect or really latch onto her aside from a few sequences. Were other times. I was getting really tired of her. And that makes no centennary. If have you seen more. Would you be even more tired of her. Like no but then those those moments may have been more fleshed out. I wouldn't have felt that way where it's like okay even though I don't don't totally like her personality or or whatever. I still love everything that she's doing. which ends in? Some ways is true but I think that if the movie had taken can more time to explain that point of view of how the Public Caesar I think it would have been so much more compelling to me because it it just would have more body to it. It's not about how the public sees her very much is on the point of the movie. She doesn't come back and talk about that about what I'm saying if even if the movies is more about her it's not her finding her voice overcoming all these and I don't think that that dynamic is as as deep as I think it could have been. That's what I'm saying I mean. What do you mean by deep though relatable to you know I mean purely from a cinematic cinematic perspective? It doesn't feel it doesn't feel as well rounded all because you she's a pop star with this granules life. You're expecting this you you know. Coffee of grandeur in the movie or at the very simple. It's just I if it had been twenty minutes longer and it had put more body onto into some of those sequences the big events that it's going through I think would have been a better movie not to say that I don't I'm going to need an example of a big event that you'd like more time I'm on 'cause you're saying I mean even just dealing with the whole Khania thing or dealing with me. That enough was enough of that. That was a lower even or even more more so dealing with the The the assault or the eating disorder. I think that those those ideas are so now. Let's say that. Ah Let's say that I'd like to hand raid the whole point. The whole point of those kinds of is they do not define you agree. There are little stepping so why should too much much of the movie about it. No no no no. No you see the other side where she's coming through those things and that's what made her stronger okay. I don't want a whole thing about how I don't need. I don't need her telling me how she of. You could see her other ribs. I I like to take once you say Nocco the pictures of myself as not healthy. We're not doing that anymore. We're not that's perfect. That's all you need. It's all you need not to mention. It doesn't trigger people which is also probably good. 'cause that kind of thing is very real I think none. Oh No I don't need to hear about the sexual the whole thing. She minimized intentionally dollar. Yeah Bye bye bye bye bye that said. It said her her such dealing with that getting that from of empathy set her in motion to then go and become the person and using her influence that she has whether she should or not for good and that was the thing is she set where she was on her piano and she said a year ago I was in court. She's like I'm just really sorry to all people and I I lost. I love that too. Oh I love that too now you need to know this is back to the United yes. Unique explosion explosions and milk. I don't need an hour spent with an eating disorder. So you will you just specified the two things and you want more time on those are just two random just to happen to traumas. Yeah Okay Great. I'm saying Camila I don't want to just keep butting heads I'm just saying watching it as someone who is not you know a a die hard. I'm not sure you're even senior swifty. Now I don't know I couldn't tell you the lyrics to. I could not name all our albums. I don't know the name of her cats. I I've definitely not even I couldn't tell you I'm definitely not like in the guys I don't know much of okay. We'll match sure the single watching it even just comparing it to other not necessarily the amy documentary just comparing it to other documentaries meet music documentaries about a huge big star who's also just a human woman. Appoint exactly I did not. I found it very distant. I I didn't find and I found it jumpy and found it inconsistent with its discussion that ensured. Wh Uh what does that mean. What was the discussion upon which was inconsistent about witches inconsistent? I mean sh showing what we've been been been talking about that how the public persona will not define her out. She's is still even regardless of all of the status. She is still just a person who has dealt with with these ideas. I think by the end I think that it just. It didn't resonate with me as much as I think it could have. And I just I didn't. I didn't dislike the movie I enjoyed many parts of it and I I was entertained. I just wish I had learned even more about her either. Just more time spent with her not talking. She noise you. Yeah because not e- not even dealing with with a discussion about her eating disorder order just more interviews with more number. Witnessing her life any interviews more or or more more interactions just in her daily life of songwriting in writing she doesn't have a reminder your directions or at this point she isolated. But I don't think it deals without enough then it's not the things she cares about the most. She has her mom. That's wonderful. Oh yeah if I ever see her with her friend but the point is but that's that's what I'm saying. So the ideas of her of her being separated so separate and so isolated and still being very much a just a human being. I don't think it communicates that idea of her. Her being so removed from people not having anyone else oh she formed a relationship like a romantic relationship. That's very important. Yeah I'm saying it doesn't. It doesn't communicate the idea of her being so removed from people and being so disconnected enough off to where I found a compelling it just made it seem like nuff. It's not the most dramatic thing she's not like frigging refunds on the tower. No I don't think so either. I'm saying I. I don't think it communicates that from a filmmaking standpoint it just jumps through things to where it's like okay we're just brushing through it and it doesn't it. It doesn't tie that together enough like okay. Now I get where she's coming from. It's too messy and it it. It doesn't hit me emotionally as certain parts did or said as I think it could have even comparing it to other big music bio-pic documentaries. That's my I'm not like like music. Pig Documentary. It's a big sundance wide. Release Netflix movie. Yeah this is Taylor Swift Miss American. That's relatively out. See how much bigger I mean a dachshund. Basset a music movie. I know I needed to. I don't need to be which is music. Chose was her doing all that stuff and everything. But it's not. I mean like woman talk about the Lady Gaga on different VIBE. Sure which I mean. I think that they're I mean. They're within the same ballpark. But they're I mean they're doing different things and I'm not saying just because I don't like this much as the Gago on that it's a a failure or that it's attempting to do the same things but doing it poorly. I'd just from a watch saying it watching it on my couch. I did not. I wish it had stuck with me more than it did but it didn't. There are certain things that I I learned about her. That I really respected with especially with her her activism so to speak towards the end especially and certain things that she she dealt with at the struggle in getting to where she felt like she could speak that. That's the whole point of the movie. That's that's octopus it the whole time. I think that's that's the failure. It doesn't communicate that struggle. Okay disagree firm disagree at certain parts do do other other other other parts. Don't I disagree. But this is just me from just watching her for an hour and a half. I just don't find her. That I find her nudie. None of quote. I mean I still think that having thing and look I'm not saying that a US person of extreme wealth and status that I can't relate to someone still having very human Being him and being humid. It's just that sometimes that knowing who she is not not the not the really serious these things like her eating disorder. That's regardless of who you are. That's not all right. I'm not saying that. I just think that there was that that I felt this distance between me and her whereas even talking about someone like the Lady Gaga Documentary. I felt immediately. She felt more grounded. She felt more real whereas in this it felt I felt very far removed from her. And whether that's a purely filmmaking Issue or in combination with just her. I don't know but I think there there are so many other music bio pic documentaries even ones who I have no idea Or know so little about them but I just feel like I connect with them more than this and again. That's might be wise well and again. That's purely subjective thing. I'm not I I think that it it. There are certain parts that really work as I said but I think it I did. Did it love it as much as I wanted to. Or and so. That's all and I just. I just think that talking about her life and having that kind of be the more the main message it it did it in the documentary better life. Yeah it's it's a failure because of that because I felt like there should have been more just more time spent with her. I I wanted to e- even if I even if I hated by the very end I just wanted to have more time spent with their towards here. Here's thirty seconds. Let's deal with it next thing next thing next thing it's like here. Let's spend more time with her in her daily life. She gave what she wanted to give. I don't think that's enough. The Story Ori which I think was enough because it went through her professional life and how you know and of course her personal stuff or they were intertwined those issue. But you know I appreciate the like. Her boyfriend was barely an and everything. It's Nanya I agree. Yeah so just compare with even music documentaries watching just a bio-pic of of going through someone's life and how how little time is spent a lot of with a lot of moments it feels so much more generic because because it the pacing is so quick that it just feels like it's blowing through things and missing the discussion. I think it is sure it shows the discussions supposed to be a implicit an and understood through via it viewer participating and I was I was trying to. I was wanting to connect with everything that she was doing. Because I I enjoy these artists profiles profiles like this whether it's someone I loved to death or if someone I hate I still enjoy watching just to get a sense of who the person is and I didn't learn enough where I found it underwhelming. I loved the last twenty minutes. I thought that I wish that had been yes. Of course everyone loves the the final pay off where the person's finally who they want to be but they don't WanNA stick around or go back for all the messy nece beforehand. I don't mind a mess. All there wasn't enough. Magnus no insurance for losing. Sometimes you can't and that's that no especially as and it's in part because I think of her I Dunno about persona. But maybe persona who. She is determined to be by society. You either. You really are either lady Gaga. Uh or a Taylor swift something like that. That's true either. You have to be like attractive or like super over the top Rockstar. You'd have to be desirable or like admirable in that kind of untouchable way and this is a problem. Sure but I think just thinking about their you know there are so many bio pics that are made either dramatization or Documentary that it deal with very very important people and they they miss the message the final message where they just tell you parts of their life that I don't think bring that message home. I think that this suffers from the exact same thing if other people don't feel this way I could care less. I think that's great. I'm just saying I watching. It has henry my personal opinion. I didn't connect with it as much. That's far as others. I deem it a failure of the Production and making itself though. I think that's kind of it's a film that I I'm tread I mean I'm not GonNa say oh well hello this that I'm going to give it a pass now work for you. Yes that's my review as if every review that we've ever talked about. I don't if I'm not GonNa you say oh well it had this message. I'm just going to give it a pass on. I'm saying if I if I what's a movie we've talked about. This is Shagman the two camps technical and then the personal. It's all being in the certain parts of the discussion is why I I liked the survey's about the movie but it's it's if I'm not saying otherwise but it's not propaganda. It shouldn't be. The movie shouldn't be edited to make her likable. Which is I? Don't think so either or extremely dislike or something in this bill for example. If we're talking about little women yeah very good movie. But but if for whatever reason that filmmaking was horrible horrendous and I didn't get that ending as intended by the filmmakers was movie no it's a good movie. It's a very good movie. Kay I'm saying if the if that entire movie had been I if I if I thought it'd been very poorly we made an ineffective but it still had a decent message I wouldn't be like. Oh well it's an it's a fantastic movie. It's great I'm saying that's going to go into it whether what regardless of what field you're dealing with if it's a filmmaking failure that goes just as much into a review not always depending on what is this saying fiction and documentary so different though because again Success in efficacious movie versus documentary. Very different rubrics. Yeah but bottom line again. They're both films there. It's a has a director in the front seat choosing what to show what not to show how much time to spend in. What and I think as a film it doesn't entirely work? Which is okay? I mean I liked it. I still thought it was I. I still thought it was very enlightening and in many ways just not a masterpiece. Five out of five best documentary interim ever seen I I. I'm just saying concur. Obviously and even even comparing as I've said to other music documentaries it's lesser than. I think it's unfinished finished to me. So Cowboy so Myra view is go to coffee shop and all the teapots encountered different but not an obnoxious intentional way. They just are and you go with someone you haven't seen in in a good while and sit by the window and it's called outside so the window Kinda condensation here but it's now called per se inside but it's not warm either and you're doing your tea with the person you're sharing tea. which is like I was kind of weird for me but I like it and you're gonNA catch up all right? It's three and a half for me so I hope people are enjoying are are heated debates. Fowley Brandon was here disagree with me. Don't worry look. I agree with your reasoning. What's my reasoning? I agree with all the things you just said it's just I don't think it works entirely Harley and communicating that. That's all okay. That's just like if you were if if if there was a movie dealing with slave not same thing dealing with slavery. I'm not going to be like okay just because it's dealing with slavery five out of five Banger. I'm just saying if if there are issues with communicating the themes. And the the story. I'm going to say that and that's just as much a part of the critique of it as The the main theme not not not not the thing here is the thing here. I think the let's get back into it. If there was a movie movie about slavery were they didn't show any violence which would be fine. Well it'd be interesting to see. Be Good Malate is communicated not to mention all the historical background you have. Let's far slavery you've read about you've learned about whatever it's been put assume far more than a- the the common dealings and Mental Illness Emotional I don't know the emotional duress perhaps spit every part of society. I have not been are discussed. Very openly sh sh yeah. That's the crux of it. If you ask me the reason it works for me and now you is because you're sympathizing versus I'm empathizing more 'cause I have more Like I said previously I have more of a direct connection like I can recall experiences. Sure my life and the people around me. Yeah I completely yeah completely made. I don't need it all in my face. I completely understand that. Yeah that's it so I mean again. I think that's fine so it's not. I don't have an issue with that so if you connect with it more than ever before someone out there that I think that's fantastic. I may not feel the same way. But that's okay thank you. Thank you Henry Eh. I mean it's entirely subjective if you'd love it and someone hates it if you connect with incredibly. That's fantastic mystic. If someone else doesn't entirely that's not bad at either it's just what you what what you bring into into it. Is this what you said. We killed the movie. Doesn't supply all the tools. Yeah that's at which I could have if we're not we'RE NOT GONNA WE'RE NOT GONNA we're not gonNA start so right who that's another a big one in the bag for this one. I didn't like this movie. Really okay. Cool well let's get into our Retro Review. I Love Migrant Gaga five foot. Two from two thousand seventeen. We've clip as well. Let's take a listen I got I got Mar- it's hard you have a phone with me. Search my bumper. So good is it bad. Yeah I mean that's fine tonight. I need to help Fisher. I've never never gotten an accident like that. I can't get your car accident and like I'm just really terribly on. A SIM very tired. Tired of you until God okay. So so Gaga Five two came out in twenty seven minus. We said line as we how many songs are on the world we gotta do that. Ah Yeah and This one is also a on that flicks currently and it's directed by the Chris in Kabul and the Synopsis Is this documentary. Goes behind the scenes with Popstar provocateur Lady Gaga got as she releases a bold new album and prepares for her super bowl halftime show. Well well this one you got. I mean when it came out. Got Some some loose like did it. You know what I mean. I think it may have just been on Netflix. I could be wrong but I think random time as well I get in coincide with Joanna. Yeah Yeah Yeah interesting. Well chloe I mean you already already spoiled it. The intro shot. I said Oh this is good but then kind of let go of all that flair. I think Speaking of like what the audience and I get it because it's probably really expensive and they own the right training by do not see the super bowl halftime show and so I was like okay. You keep talking to how this is the most important thing ever. What are we have the super bowl crazy? Yeah Watch either. He talked about how this is the most important moment most important performance of life hands down right. She said like eighty thousand times right. Sure show it like I get that again. I'm sure they didn't have the right to seconds of rehearsal. Whatever they showed people running tour who are actors which you know what I mean by? I don't I'm not how you did man I so I get logistically but as a a movie like at the film as like guys. What are you doing what you're what is happening? You're suing everyone in the world team. This first hello won't hold up in that as a film itself like obviously you last year not ago most beyond no. Oh I'm ready. Yeah Damn but so in that respect or racism hold up for like the anyway but Yeah the movie again opening shot but that was my biggest thing as a whole getting into my life and they enjoy it and I said Oh thank fall so as a movie now. That was a big strike against it. Interesting you yeah. It's like one of those balloons where you you feel like. You blew up the the long balloons they just let it go to go like that. That's my you that's what they're supposed to do. I guess but no you're blowing up a balloon and then you'll let it go by accident and it goes dead balloon right. Yeah also also. We don't condone balloons anyway. BAFFONI environment I agree. Hey you wanna pro tip protests if if I ever been entertaining enough you WANNA know which candidates in the election are really serious about climate change if they hand out balloons with their frigging names on it everyone audience. They don't care as much about climate changes they could hashtag judge Hashtag warned. They both ended up those balloons to everybody. Sure that's a lot of plastic unnecessary necessary. You know nobody. There's got I would've voted for them if they had only handed me a long hot dog shaped balloon so point anyways anyway. The ones in God's house with foil slightly better now I don't really. I don't know the INS and outs that. Also anyway. That's the small thing but are in any case so I thought that this smoothie was not super focused maybe they thought they had too much stuff to work with trying to just pull out examples because I okay. I didn't think okay so super bowl thing honestly from a film point number one worst part big what are you doing moment. Okay Eh. They had meter set it too many times. Sure then fine also things going on. There was a super bowl and the new album but they had very different fields which is also very confusing like the album was supposed to be our most personal album and everything and then you've got the big super bowl which is like the most humorous thing in the world and I get the personal more for her though in terms of the preparation and the the I suppose I get I guess. Ah Yeah. It's interesting and it is because it's just her personal whatever or it's just her mindset for a law thing she does maybe. Because that's what drives her creatively and everything. I think she lives in the moment. I would say everything is my favorite thing time. Maybe it's like that the juxtaposition of the two things that were incredibly important to her and like the Super Bowl being the most important to me. Personally I mean in terms of the the way that you would have been just as there's a person being chose for something like that as big as that is like a grammy. If he didn't get you'll be sad. Yes I'm like that doesn't go. They're not rocketing it. That's what I'm saying right I. I could see her getting excited about that. Anyone getting excited about that if it showed her Ryan that she didn't get the Super Bowl halftime show. I don't know if I would have cared so anyway. So so but I just didn't find it very very cohesive I really beginning shot like okay. It's going to be creative and cool on this allows. My favorite part of the whole movie was the beginning shots dope. Then it was Ah Yeah I mean aside from me. I didn't really feel her. But that's again a personal thing maybe They didn't show very much interaction with because she does a lot philanthropic stuff they didn't really show that aspect which I don't know if that was I don't know where that choice came from But I think it didn't work to the advantage of the movie I can tell you that Even though she was like I can't imagine how people 'cause she double the she has fibromyalgia Myalgia rights paint stuff. And she's like I can't imagine how people and I feel that way too I so I could relate to that and I still didn't feel it a whole I mean I did but not too too much I should. I don't understand how people I can't imagine me blew all this deal with whatever but they didn't offset it with anything doing so again just from a cut away you're saying Those kind of it wasn't even out very much so she and I guess just what they chose to use given. They had a lot of stuff. I don't know how long they filmed. But then they did the American horror story thing very random and she did not come come off well again which is like other things. That's that's the kind of thing that I agree with you. I did not I think for me. It just being a star. That kind of thing doesn't really work for me. That kind of situation so I I agree with you. Shop saying she had picked him up. She hasn't really say thank you the whole Walmart thing. She came off super not sell as far as I enjoyed that without. It's just more comedic though. Isn't it to me to me which is fine as well. But the if that we're going forward I can't imagine it is like putting her CD. You're talking about the thing with a Taylor Taylor swift being sad in their own house when she first signed out she was nominated grammy versus putting your CD. When you're already ridiculously successful in front of everyone else's CDs CDs again? Since we're we're dealing with these individual people share that stuff. I found community. Just post to be endearing. It was clear here with the music and everything behind it the thousand tension. And that's where I think this difference in in Evaluating versus the Taylor Swift ignores. It's just emotion. There was not music. It was very there right and again I think that was supposed to be a catalyst to you know. Go through everything right and it was very whatever but this was supposed because we like funny but I didn't think it was funny because I think it shows at distances from everybody else versus. Yeah so just totally totally. It didn't work for me interesting and also I just didn't I thought it was. Okay Yeah I guess that I think we should separate so as far as how was it was put together. Don't think that's together particularly wealth. I was pretty jumbled and everything if the whole thing was honestly just a little more focused if they didn't talk about the Super Bowl I think what happened was I was like okay. We're GONNA make a movie about her making those personal albums ever made. That'd be probably way cooler. And then they found found now. It's like too much of a good thing like she got super bowl. They were filming while she got it right. It was in the middle of all the other stuff right. And maybe that's why I called all distracted and confused. I think could be. Yeah because I think just about the album especially such a personal album whatever whatever that could have been cool uh-huh but that will all suitable stuff got all totally confused and everything. I think sure I mean I tell. As far as how it was made I entirely success town and also super too much information that didn't coincide because it wasn't about her life life life right so it was about these two events that happened to coincide but other than that they had very little in common Sure so because of that and then again the ending was big PLOP. Like didn't they could show they dinner. That couldn't which I think probably they couldn't afford approach show anything like then. Don't do it you know it's like they thought they came upon a gold mine in a blinded them to the fact that they didn't you know. Yeah I mean I. I think a lot of things were saying. It's it's more so just an emotional connection I think and I think in this one I joy it I I find. Personally I find lady Gaga more endearing and more funny and more more grounded and I just found her way of looking at things much more interesting and I think that her her feelings are more Tangible because there are plenty of things that Taylor swift has dealt with as well that are very real and it's just that purely from just watching it as a learning about someone. I enjoyed this one more and I think that I think actually prefer agreed that the film making it's a little all over the place but I think with how I enjoy learning about an individual like this. I think I just enjoyed more meandering going from place to place and just kind of getting the the the the vibe or the experience with them as opposed to have it being more of a trajectory. I think Yes yeah I'm kind of an idealist too. So like the fact that I was watching this and I was like I'm but also to be fair I don't know I don't know it's hard to say I like like I am an idealist so I'd like to get something out of it and I guess it was just an observation piece and I got nothing out of it and that's kind of irradiated by that 'cause that's like I don't care like I don't she's not I mean our K- you know what I mean. But she I think she was going through anything particularly inspiring not much of a grow. There wasn't any the growth in the movie and I know that because from start to end should everyone's GonNa leave and she's he's being divas time but also there's okay Henry hear me out here me out. She says on the phone. This is another thing. I don't think it was as genuine. When is the comparative tests which will as well? Because he's on the phone with an I don't know the engine out just how it came to me with the Munshi works with I guess very closely Lee who she knows has cancer right right. If you're actually on the phone with someone who has cancer you're not gonNa be like Oh so you're cancer spread to your brain like they thought it might like all this stuff now chapter every day. He's like oh so. The results were better than you thought whatever. She sang these things on the phone. Almost for the camera is kind of how it came up to me and then the first and I get that. She's just a person I get that she shows the person but the one saying about. Why personally didn't I like the movies because there was nothing nothing growth about it is like growth about it? There was no real growth in it to me. Just because I don't like seeing there watching somebody life like particularly particularly right. I think that's that's that's where the observations differ more and she's allowed to have her feelings and everything but she got off the phone From talking to this woman who as we know because it's in memory of at the end but a clearly like this woman has cancelled an severe. We are enough where she can't work like she's in the hospital and everything right. We know that much right. And she gets off the phone and she says Aw I just feel like everyone's leaving me. This woman which I get is a valid feeling but as the initial reaction. It just didn't obvious as they did not I couldn't I cannot take now as a as a kind of comparison. That's how I felt when Taylor Swift said. Her mother had had cancer and she said I just hate to see that that makes me so upset because she's one of my favorite people and so it's totally different Henry. I don't think so so she no. No no my mom's on my favorite people as well because of who my mom is but then there's no. There's no sympathy. There's no time spent in the film dealing dealing with the with the mother the point that I think her mom is always there to support her. Always know with again always always in that big her mom is always there slowed Nova novas her favorite person. There's clearly there's a connection there that's an a person should not be defined a person does not want to be defined by their struggles. I don't think so either. So why should we talk about our Mamas Kanter all the time we should not. Noah's is totally different. I think than getting off the phone was one who's dying. Yeah and say I just feel like everyone's leaving me that super different France and again. That's just a personal is why I didn't enjoy the movie. The documentary and observational movie about a Rockstar. Popstar are much more. I think than the Taylor swift movie. It was a foul A movement and a purpose and common enemy of a lot of people By way of someone that many of the population has grown up knowing at least sure but now I mean that that I didn't really have an issue. I think that I'm not saying he has issues with men which is fine fine just fine. I just think it's weird. It's not addressed at all by anyone even though movie like what like when Mark Ronson left. Oh Oh boy I get it. They're very relatable concepts which is a kind of I think why also jarring that wasn't addressed by anybody. Yeah Yeah Woah. What also she's so in our own world so like okay? Yeah I mean I think from that. I don't know if people brought it it up not even just comparing Taylor swift but I mean why would you want to bring that up to someone like you care about somebody. Same thing with Amy White House in Tony Bennett. It remember that scene. Yeah sure it was very reminiscent of That to me sure because she's got clearly some stuff and and they just didn't even talk about it. They really talked about her. They did not really address her mental illness or her any of the things she's dealt with which how're you gonNA talk about who somebody is without saying where they came from a little bit? Well I mean it kind of goes back to her the like kind kind of quote unquote routes with the Joanne's song and showing her right. which resting? Except that's not actually what again. I'm not a therapist but But this is just why. The movie didn't work because it felt like a lot of it might just be because of where this person that they nominated me. The documentary about is in their life or whatever but like is the album that was the most here was also about someone that she had never met which is interesting those scenes I still found more emotionally nationally gripping than a lot of the stuff and Miss Americana but I think again as you said it can be the complete opposite. I think it's just your this movie was trying to depict exactly because I think this is a rounded. I think it was just more just a slice of life kind of deal. I don't know if you'll also then it wasn't but also that it wasn't 'cause then she has debilitating chronic pain and she hates being famous. What she say Famous a prison. Is that kind of thing you know. It's it's just like what are we. What are we doing here? What are we saying? Yeah I think she's a good person very much so I think she does love I appreciate her philanthropic work and then I think he has a beautiful voice and everything but at the same time but that but that's further to the point where. I don't know what this movie who was trying to show here. I think it was laughing on the award. It will so life than I think it should have had Much tighter Timeline and if it wasn't that that I think it should be a lot broader and again I think the big thing is it's going to be about the album Joanna done and then maybe the Super Bowl just made the whole thing implode. I Dunno sure I think it just just comparing it just being about a ninety minute documentary about someone of course also felt so long to me really. Oh my God dredging through it. If I'll so long I I I don't feel that way but I think just as a ninety minute look at someone I spent about as much time with with her as I needed with the things that it was showing showing about her life and so I think in that way I enjoyed it more. I felt it at COMP. It not accomplish more necessarily but as the film works it's better than Miss Americana worse. I think that Them being both ninety minute looks at someone. I think that this one works more as just a more more lighthearted and more well fine not not not that I'm saying Miss Americana should be. I should rephrase. I'm saying just that this being a relatively low lighter look I guess someone I I think I i. I think it did that job better than I think. Whereas what MISSA mercado trying to do. I don't think it did that as well and so I think I enjoyed this one taking ice. It is yeah waiver Giving anything I mean I thought it was successful in. It's it's a never so again where buster sure which I lost with this if it was supposed to be like that like. What is the bay cello movie? Calm Bay Chela. Bay Chela the beyond say Coachella channel movie. Oh Yeah I'm coming. Thank you just do that. Then you're going to do this just to homecoming make up your mind. Just remind you know what I mean the whole Walmart thing. Oddly pissed me off off to know and I I. I enjoyed that actually but and I get. I know I'm annoying with my no. It's okay ash tag. Feel the burn wealth disparity anything but like she has no idea. What's going on around her? It seems you know which I know isn't true per se. which again is a shortcoming of the movie? Then even just showing her her interaction with fans. I found that more genuine. I think In this then I think in The Miss Americana. I think that's just hit me harder than what did I appreciate for. Her Fan showed through more on this one. No no no I mean that thing with the girl who won the iheartradio thing. She didn't know her name. She said Remember her name and give it to dig it which is very sweet pozo. She had no her name and she has left which again. I'm not saying. She's can't be there for everyone. There's only one of her and everything I just don't think it came off very nice. Ver- I'm in that moment were and then it. It takes the time to have the fan talking to the camera about how. That's that's more so if it had not had the fan. Dan Reaction to her being there. I had seen. Oh how'd you iheartradio. So that I would agree completely but I think that having that Ah epilogue of the fan show being so emotional. I think that is what really endeared me to her More so than certain things with a Taylor swift and Miss Marikana. But I think that's just what what you're choosing to show. Yeah yeah again again. I think he comes. There was no I don't think there's any storytelling with the five foot. Two by even the name even down to the name what I agree. There's the storytelling is not terrible. For and the keeper in the studio with Mark Ronson and just watch what unfolds and fine versus a big personality may be keeping it down to you know her truest form or whatever other income off quite well either like Oh. I'm only anywhere like they. The things they chose to harp on versus what occurred maybe however subjectively just made it seem less genuine for instance the fans GonNa like me. Even though I'm just wearing you know black can wider whatever. But she didn't were black and white. You're like far less clothing than the people right. I mean which is fine. Do your thing the but whatever she just seems so distant which again is fine. But I just don't understand your message like when she took her top off when she was talking to a bunch of people. Oh you should ask. You should just ask an breastfeeding. You're just saying I'm just saying you are. I mean she's like it's just more comfortable which I if a man took a shirt his shirt off and a meeting. You'd also be like I think from I. Yeah I know but no no no. No I'm saying I think from yes. The storytelling so to speak is not brilliant. But it's not coherent but but also at the same time. I think that the way that it's shot maybe not necessarily edited but more more so how. They're they're shooting certain sequences. I found that it to be more of a doesn't have to be relatable more of a a loose kind of objective. Look whereas it felt like the way that miss as an American I was told was much more calculated and trying to hammer in something whereas calculated. I think it's very calculated. Okay but I I think in this. It's more of A. It's it's more of a just Calculated documentary what do you mean an put out a banana. Peel for her them slip on. So what do you mean one. What do you mean by calculated the what they're what they're choosing to show and how much time they're are willing to spend and things it feels? I think that they're like why not in Marikana and I know it's not dealing with this all the same issues that we talked about. Why not deal with with her? The fact that she's sued fans ensued. People like that. Why not show the less friendly parts about her career? That's the stuff where we're Taylor. Swift fans are completely. He's not being. She's not being interviewed. Really in this move very much care. It's not interviewed back to footage back to It's an observation. The point of the movie it achieves grown Elisa person the point. She's not perfect nor should she have to be. She's he's becoming who she wants to be. This is the whole thing. Yes no I agree but at the same time saying all are listening parties either. Didn't joe her giving money to Tuition to people either right. It's not about that those are those are such On surface things both ways. And we've all no no we all know that stuff so the thing you're accusing the movie of relying on is a common knowledge is the same thing. You're I mean it doesn't you know showing Yes I agree that it is no one's perfect regardless of you know where you are. I think that's fine. I think that it's was choosing to show purely really okay where she started out and where she has how. She's grown as a person but at the same time I think having something like having sued fans hands I think that's just as much a part of her and they're choosing not to show that so her. Her journey is more relatable to people. If they put that in there you have been like a weight. Ah That is everything that we've just seen. Should I connect with that as much. I think that there would have been a more well rounded vibe to it if whereas in this get it's it's doing different things a month. I'm not comparing the two that I think the way that this is shot. It's look down on that. He got out for a second everything she does. That weird is like Oh oh how she in which. I'm not saying which I'm not saying. Let me say one thing about what it's about Taylor. Swift precisely is not about her in relation to her fans couldn't get did not by listening. Part of that seven doesn't even talking about her on. Tumbler whatever ever shows any of that stuff k. It's about her journey as a human to become the better version of herself and the reason that is taken too long to do so so the whole idea of being insecure and not feeling worthy enough etc could all go into the idea of her identity being taken by the people as well okay and is true as a fan is kind of I appreciate that. That's I mean there are laws about that is kind of weird to sell. I mean this is the thing. It's weird if you're fan of someone it's like okay. This is totally different example. But this is something that really grinding. My gears is all the Bernie stuff being sold and then none of it goes to the campaign is not dissimilar Millar right now. That's that's fine but just to use a personal example a let. Let's say they made a documentary about Billy Joel strong. And they were showing his his growth as a person from this very rebellious kind of carefree punk to this very renowned prolific musician. And if they had taken the time if the if they had shown big parts of his life and how that feeds that final point if they had left out the scene where he's on stage blaring at people saying I've been around since one thousand nine hundred seven. Screw you Blah Blah Blah. I think that would have been issue. Because it's like okay for someone who's not completely on her side or on his side. Excuse me having scenes like that where you may not like the person I think that is important already had teams where he didn't like her just as a person that's what more more more objectively unlikable things I I don't like that. For example with Billie Joe Armstrong. I don't like that he did that. And I think that even whether you're some people would the weather again whether you're a die hard fan of his or or not or don't know anything about him. I think that that's a very stark look at someone and and I think it's important to have parts. That is not that is subjective. That behavior subjective people were very longtime have loved. I mean sex drugs and rock and roll and everything okay. People love have loved that you know musicians wreck their guitars every night I mean. Let's that since the birth of rock and roll doesn't purely having the choice to include something like that that that's more so what I mean you. It's of course it's always open to vander under snatch what do you mean having the choice to include something like that no chew Ch- choosing to include something or not in a film that may be may cause people to look to look differently at a person they may have. They may idolize or or something that it would create more more more of a gray look at the person regardless of what they're doing I think if they had made a documentary about him and they had not chosen to include that whether people love it they did that or not having the choice to include more ambiguous things about someone's personality that could feed where they've gotten to be as a person I think is important and I don't know so business. Yes she makes money scant. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It's her brand that she's bill and so that that's where it feels more like I'm protecting my brand. It's not. Here's why shouldn't she. That makes her feel more attention. But that makes her feel less relatable because here. I'M BUILDING UP MY BRAND I. It's it's it's more I'm protecting. What if somebody put out a podcast and have the exact? It was called like the movie buds. Great Minute had the exact setup as our show. Would you not be upset if they're if they're different. People doing touchy serious other. I've I've listened to a ton of documentaries that have a loose relaxed movies structure her. I guess what I say. But that's not no call. No who is the if they were called the movie opened the show by saying how the Heck Ara and it had whatever segments we have which are fairly lose to be fair sometimes like if it had like if it had a you know a pixel the week we have a direct a direct copy. That's that's not. What are you trying to argue? Intellectual Property exist especially physical it exists. It's the thing I think her. Tom Petty Friggin. Did it to Sam Smith yes. I'm saying in hurt Sam Smith even those the same song so whatever it's just that with a star that is so big. I think that it's important. I want to have things that are more ambiguous to how people may view them too. So that way people who may not be entirely Charlie die hard fans of hers choosing to include not as much of the grey areas of her. Life is a an issue with because again again. It's just showing here. Look what overcome. Look what I've done. This is my brand and I think her her motivation to purely protect. Her brand is just not as relatable. That part feels more like here. I'm a huge star. I'm protecting the perfect image of me and so here. I'm going to do the documentary in this way. That makes uh-huh calculated inherently less interesting. Yeah that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that this is a comparable and that way because it's not dealing with those issues and so I'm not saying I like dog doesn't deal with any issues. This is no high art any far easier easier your than to try to. She's trying to Share what he's dealt with to make it easier for you to deal with your stuff you can do it and that's worth it even if it doesn't work out I'm not thinking that that five foot two is setting setting out to do those things. I think that just as a again sitting on my couch watching it I I I. There were certain parts of it that I just found more interesting whereas as a whole I found Miss American less interesting but again. That's that's just how you connect with the person and that's I'm not saying one way or the other like it's just a a enjoyable slice of life a Popstar to me. I don't think it's accomplish trying to do anything crazy. And that's fine when it comes to movie like this. It's just a meandering ninety minute look at someone. I think it did the job. Well aw which again the the bar is very low. But I think I enjoy more yeah understandably so so yeah when anything else about it just kind of annoying or even cintron her pain gene or something. If you'RE GONNA cry but Sir Pigott just pick gamma and picking Avenue Thompson. You've got lots to work with. That's that's about it for me. I'm spent I just burn to the MIC that mirrors sorry brain stew to all right well out of five Khloe so four for me. I what do I let me think about. I gotTA close my eyes. I hang on this one I gotta do I give this move okay. I got it. I got it when you go so so you go to a party with one of your friends. I have a really good. I have a really good what I give it. Okay our okay so. I was actually just texting from Mary while she's takes me and I didn't want to be that person because they're going to hear about plans. That are varia you know within the next like couple of hours but one time I went to so Mary may is the best should a little down now. She's a little down out this moment. Okay just not not no not now previously Abbott Dote which is also my rating. Oh so this is a little while ago. It's all good correct but we tend to just would just tend to like a have kind of your experiences together. We enjoy very much. You know we just go and do random things. Most things come find us a lot in It's very Chapel Hill thing very southern Kinda weird stuff we do and happens to us yet. Again I think it's less I'm more like the very lame yes perfect. No no yes perfect. What do they call? Yes theory whether God dude perfect and yesterday I never what do perfect but I know what to think but anyway so sorry. So we're like the very lamey s theory basically so I was at a dinner naturally. We're all funny things. Things begin right and I was trying to Leave quietly as I tend to do and then I got cornered not corner in a bad way you know as it were socially corner hoping to have socially cornered as trying to exit out by these guys who I know very well and they're like but like they're like between the like young professionals like the more grown young people and let the young people the young people so I'm like in a weird place especially since my sister. My sister lives in carrying out. Everything's the same place you now. So I'm like by myself. Now that's like this is one of the first times we're back we're back to the past came back to the future by myself That was that okay anyway. And they're like oh we always go to. We always go somewhere after I was like. Oh I'm being led into the GROWNUP group this weird right I didn't know about this so they were going to the bar cade. That's near the house like off. Franklin treated complain about the Baxter. I always get confused anyway. So they were going there and I was like Oh okay I just kind of like had to like I. Yeah I didn't have to do it. This is where I texted. Mary and I was like go to the park with me and a bunch of Jews. I'd never really talked to right. And you'd like what and I was like please as it will be funny and she is also one that was Kinda into me and that's like everyone's into marry so I didn't look forward enough to for that one but basically the interaction between everyone when they're like me not really knowing them. Mary not really known that I didn't really know them. None of us know married annoy nobody Numeiri. They're like who she and I was like. I'm not going to be around and stuff. And then they went to the second location and we're like we can knock up a second location. Also we had like man. I love Harry Potter. I don't know if you know that. Ah So I think we seemed to excited because one of them have like A. This was the dumbest heard. No offense to him but he had a death tattoo and avoid but then he said he was like a griffin door or something or a raven class. Like wow okay. So that's that on that right but basically you start talking about Harry Potter. We have very excited so we seemed more excited than we were to be there. You know what I mean which was a which I'm about it so then we're talking about going to a second location? We said the second second. What's her? What basically marriage wanted to play games right? Of course. I married free alcohol. It's like one more do you want right. I like Arcade Games. Mayor likes free. Alcohol is great a second location and we were both like. How do we get out of this because also were girls and they were not allowed to say no to things right? So that's the thing it's a thing occur yet. Yeah there's a problem okay so anyway so we were like and so then we pretended and they're perfectly nice people. We just didn't want to be there anymore. You know right and I you know I don't do that stuff I don't drink I don't like going but I don't know staying in a room with music. I guess you know what I mean. What do I want with that? So we didn't know what to do. The second location was Louis dating a room with music and stuff like that filled to the brand with college students. Or you know and then these young professional Jewish people people. I've barely docked to right as we were like Mary my as I and she pretended that she forgot her. ID At at the bar cade. Once we basically got into the other location to like GotTa go back. You know what I mean. Then the one of the guys was so nice. You like you like like walk by yourselves. Whatever to go get it usually with you know Oregon fine but like he was generally being nice? We're like Oh oh God out of this week and then as as we were. Mary happened to park in the parking lot. Basically like park basically right across from the place they were asked to. Do this whole big loop oop around expert Guy Likes Puerto Rico Park cords. So they wouldn't be as getting into the car. Right is there is a mess. Yes you -CCOMPLISH I'll I'll see you or anything we don't know I don't think they remembered anyway. I can't remember. I think I think one of them we are you kidding. Oh we didn't know why these to death eater and the other one who looks like Andrew from a worth it. If you've ever seen that show literally just like a reply. Liked him happened to be walking randomly. They weren't at that place either. I was really looking for us. I think we like kidnapped snatched mega-mergers. I think we had snatched because we didn't return. We saw them just walking. You're always oh my God no. That was actually very funny. But in short the rating itself is just a standing in the middle of that bar. Cade out of quarters not in order to do. Yeah who all right. Well let's move on. Should we talk about that New Hamilton to movie. I just don't get an NRI. I don't get it. What about they already? They should put our ready for God's sake the waiting a year and a half off for what I don't get I don't get it. They putting work into it. Yeah so the Alibaba. Good Point. They've had it forever right. Yes Disney has acquired the rights through a seventy five million dollar will purchase from Manuel. Yes to make a a Hamilton film. That is coming out in October of twenty to twenty one this. Just you're a stage record release it. Yeah yeah that's it but the movie has already been shot in one evening and I don't understand the the long wait I gotta I gotTa understand that a little bit. But maybe maybe. There's a conflict with Allison said that that she thought it might be because they didn't want to deter people from being tickets to the show. I could see that and I said but allison everyone is known the music forever. Everyone knows it's not the original cast anymore. Still getting tickets I could. I could see the the white suits getting a little or white. We cut white collar. White suits it's white collar. People getting people getting I mean the the corporate people getting a little sure. We're we'RE NOT GONNA. We're not going to risk anything profit loss so dividends or whatever. I don't know what that word means but I'm sure I could see that sticks. So that is that is coming in twenty twenty one seventy five million dollars dumb. WHY THEIR WAY I don't get it? It's such a Disney move or we didn't know work for this but we're going to make it all complicated and ridiculous as possible. Seventy five million dollars in theaters problem. I would think so. I bet that's where the big money would be. I guess who even knows. Honestly money's all fake anyway. True Netflix is eighty billion dollars in debt or one hundred eighty or one hundred eighty firm. It's ridiculous his what it is. That's something I can always say. Always Henry always. If there's one thing I can say about the success of my life guess what. I'm less in debt than Netflix. So and so were you listener and also Henry collectively all the film buddies. I lessen the net flicks so there Well I guess. Is that any other news money. So it's confusing. Yeah Yeah not to be presumptuous fumbling. Sorry if we were eighty billion in debt we could have done some pretty good investments on the show make gotten pretty top notch. Bad Investment could've bought her in studio studio all that stuff if eighty billion dollars. Yep that's about what the as we don't use a little teeny bit of it and then also try to you know. Stop all the bad things. Yeah but I read it. Very good book called winner-take-all which talks about philanthropy and stuff and downfalls all right yeah cool Any any anything else Khloe News Wise. I feel like we should save the gentlemen till you see it. Okay yeah I know how this goes down but whatever my mommy. This articles like the Washington Post or something about how the Englishman now what's called. The gentleman is the antisemitic. Nick firmly disagree over here. has a very sensitive very sensitive. You know the US firm disagree if you're allowed to have mean juice with glasses. Okay sure no then there was a nice I like the basically. The favorite character was a Jew and they tried to say that that Jew was only there to to make it secret that they put so. That means you in there to be mean. Ju- I said. Are you kidding me this about jurors. Everybody's awful everybody's terrible it's the point the movie arguably the only nice person is Jewish but apparently that's a trap. I don't understand that at all our check it out. It's very stupid. Check out the gentlemen. Great also I knew that before going into it so I was really on the lookout pre upset about it and I was like Oh cool. I didn't tell my aunt cindy who saw with whom I saw it. Because I didn't want her. We upset but knows nothing about that. I didn't see it touch. It with me can't wait to talk about got it okay. Well then or are the other picks of the week for you Khloe Watch now you go I. I can't think of as you have watched. Will I watch I've been watching a little bit of the dark crystal. Hey resistance which is still fantastic and I also watched the making of documentary on Netflix about which is called the crystal calls. Well yeah and it's if you enjoy any kind of behind the scenes look at pets at puppets. Yeah fantasy and costume design all all of that. It's worth checking out that my watch list. That was on my watch those before Dr Crystal 'cause I prefer see little puppets being cute as you well know from. Unfortunately having seen a lot moves with me I enjoy it. Puppet dinner out like Archie Gates. That isn't it from Colorado and I see spot that kid from across the street at pee. My pants yeah. He is so cute and so that that was a if yet again. If you enjoy anything like that I would check it out for sure. That's on Netflix. As well and then then see feel like there's something else here. I think I got nothing. What seems not right and I did rewatch dark phoenix the X.? Men movie from last year a fan favourite and it's slightly more this time around but still it's not as bad as the the rattener one but It's still not amazing. I don't think the score however on Zimmer score so good there is a good that the secrets where they fly up in the ship into space amazing score check it out. I don't mind Sophie Turner. I don't enough. She's amazing but I think she's okay in this. She's not amazing. I can tell you that. I think she's finding this and so I don't really have that criticism. It just feels a little. The it's written and directed by the guy who wrote a lot of the most recent ones and this is his giddy right Ada emerges the no I don't I don't believe so. I think he started with days of future past and then did apocalypse. And this one I. I watched this really upsetting thing. I watch this guy on Youtube. WHO's very good? I don't know his name. Sorry maybe I'll tell you and you note that some point probably not today. 'cause you know I don't know how to find him though. I subscribed because I liked what he said. I was so upset because he. Oh my God he's not matches. Is it pretty chill about everything. Behind the fact that every woman in days of future past no issue first class is at some point in their underwear every single one I should oh my. Everyone was a speaking role I should. Graf Evolve Shing Heck Fudging Heck which mills go into noticed and guess what that's part of the in about and a half. My headphones fell. I first class is one of my least favorite there. You go liked it. I can watch it ever again. She is us. It's still got some some alright bright moments and I think that the the main cast is still pretty good. They're just not in it nearly enough. A lot of the new faces aren't as interesting. And so people like Michael Faster mcevoy and Yeah James mcevoy Jennifer Lawrence. They're all kind of at the background. It's just not as interesting with the younger newer faces please. I'm team as far as Mystique team. Rebecca Romain Lettuce. She's she's really good. Yeah I I gotta be honest. Is that it now. It's like a reject drag name recognition. Lettuce doesn't work other than that. Just been watching Colombo as I told you to ice Berg keep going but Letitia Romaine. Maybe maybe we'll see time. We'll tell one of my my friend groups favorite pastimes. If that doesn't surprise you interest thank Kayley Connor and is always do. Yeah we've had some good ones. Oh you know Kelly message me on instagram asking. What do you guys have like five podcasts? And overachievers sorry about that. I was like Oh Hey Kaley you say why do you have five. CAD hadn't talked to you in a while I was like how the heck are you can't do great fans of course we didn't can have that talk. Maybe next time for them. Her remains to be fair but they all sleep on a bed. She got new veg bed so good for them. They on their one of them is three legs. No is that true that lie crab stay tuned bum leg or three legs. Okay yeah speaking as a bumbling myself I mean three legs are still more than I have. So who am I right. Uh about does it for the show. So gentlemen is that thing I watched. Yeah Okay Yeah Ah here. We are sick. Annoy watched enough. I'm so sorry I was sick. You know that's how I can't think of it in one year you know the other L. Next week on the show. BIRDS OF PREY. It's big allman normally happened and so that and if we can do the gentleman we can do that. I'm not just depends on people's schedule and all that. Yeah I've seen it. That's true and usually on my schedule. I'm the Cog Right so birds of prey either way my nickname. We'll let you know and all so so excited. You should be a lot of a lot of fun. It'd be interesting it'd be interesting watch. I'm really excited about you. McGregor Wardrobe also. Uh My Oh God well no. He's Nice he's nice. It's not his fault that it was right next to my bedroom at two. Am My sister's friend. seducers in the movie. That's right he's too sorry he's a Dj it all my sisters DJ equipment isn't that was in the room next to my bedroom. And so that was why I was upset with. It's not to dear. He is very nice but the noise that kept me awake. I didn't love of course two separate things but I'm excited for that. He's been on. Vogue covers countries all kinds of stuff. He's not he's another stuff too. I remember well. Yeah A so we will. We help. Enjoy the show Khloe as always. Thanks thank you Henry. Sorry things got heated again. That's what this is for. It's true. What the heck demonetized? Yeah but just know that. You're great you too Henry. I'm not upset. I think some. I hope you're not upset Henry. I was worried Khloe that you're upset know that you were upset with me. Why because you came across or I mean Milan? No no no no before we go down that rabbit. All I'm saying that's that's that was my impression. That's not not that I. I thought you were at that. Just I was worried or the or that I that I upset you those those my my were somehow you know I can still stand. I wouldn't worry we're sitting though but let's let's the way that we finish so but anyways yeah and make sure to check out music birds if you haven't yet stay tuned on social from media at film buds any of my Jewish producer boyfriends. Yup I love Margaret's in I'm sorry and you know I love Antonoff by just always have loved Mark Ronson basically for she did Jones is dated them. You know. Yeah yeah the one guy did not like the panic at the Disco Guy Brennan. He's very now my guy not taking the hair not digging. He was in Kinky boots. Is that kinky boots. You know Kinky Buddhis- I'll do my best okay. Fine okay now talented talented true. But he's always been very parallel with for for me personally. People have always drawn perilous weeden friend flowers and and Brennan Right if reasons men's came out time sometimes sir similar outfits you know right. Yeah he's he's not my guy all right. Yeah thank you so much again for joining us. You hope you enjoyed it a five foot seconds as much as we did. We'll see you next time yeah

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U.S. Believes Ukrainian Jet Shot Down by Iran

WSJ What's News

12:33 min | 7 months ago

U.S. Believes Ukrainian Jet Shot Down by Iran

"The Wall Street Journal listeners. Come from all walks of life and business and no matter what type of business urine eighty P is here to help you achieve what you're working looking for with. HR talent time benefits and payroll informed by data and designed for people learn more at design don ADP DOT COM US officials believe Iran shot down the Ukrainian International Airlines plane. That crashed earlier this week. We'll talk about how that complicates the tense situation between the US and Iran loss. The trump administration is proposing an overhaul federal general environmental rules. This is in many ways. Exactly what industrial interests wanted oil companies in particular there has it's been a big push for more pipeline capacity in the country. It's Thursday January ninth. This is the PM edition of what's News From The Wall Street Journal Doc. I'm Ameri for totally a New York House speaker. Nancy Pelosi. 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A trade accord the Dow added two hundred twelve points to end the day at Twenty eight thousand nine hundred fifty seven the s&P five hundred closed up point seven percent and the Nasdaq rose point. Eight percent but there was more bad news for brick and mortar retailers. JC Penney and Kohl's are the latest to report lower sales during the critical holiday. Shopping season yesterday. macy's said it. Sales fell during November remember and December compared to the year before and said it will be closing twenty nine stores but not all traditional retailers are struggling target and Walmart reported rising sales. And more we're traffic in stores and discount retailers like TJ Maxx are also reporting healthy sales. Are you a Henry Henry it stands for high earner not rich yet. It means despite earning a six figure income. You're struggling to amass any meaningful nest. Egg are friends of the Motley. A full can help since nineteen ninety-three. They've been providing investment advice helping members build the financial future. They envision to Kick Start Your twenty twenty financial goals. They're you're offering five of their favourite stock picks for free realizing. YOU'RE A henry. Remember the not rich part you can do it. And the Motley fool can help visit full dot com mm slash. WSJ US officials say they believe that the Ukrainian flight that crashed in Tehran on Wednesday was brought down by two surface to air missiles. Fired by Iran. The Boeing jet crashed shortly after takeoff killing. All one hundred seventy six passengers and crew members on board award. This was just hours after Ron launched missile attacks on US bases in Iraq in retaliation for the killing of Iranian military leader. Kacem Sulejmani joining me now from Washington is Wall Street Journal National Security correspondent. Nancy Yousef Nancy. A big question now is whether or not this was intentional. What can you tell us about what you've learned so we've heard from two? US officials at the latest US assessment is with a high degree of confidence that this aircraft which was carrying a hundred and seventy six passengers was intentionally shot down the belief in terms of what the US intelligence community success is that this was a mistaken stake in decision by someone in Iran. Shortly after this aircraft took off and one of the ways that they were able to make that assessment that they can talk about is that they looked at the debris field because the debris field was so vast rather than sort of more narrow as you would expect with something that was brought down mechanically medically that was one of the contributing factors that led to this conclusion. This accident also comes amid heightened tensions between Iran and the United States. How could this potentially complicating complicate that even further will you raise a great point? We just a day go seem no sort of bring deescalate tensions at a point when just days earlier there were fears that we were on the brink of war or some kind of confrontation between the United States and run the US sort of identifying Iran as the site of this mistaken shoot down of a plane could aggravate just sort of relations particularly runnings suggesting that this plane was a mechanic brought down by mechanical failure. That a AH pilot tried to turn the plane back around something. That would be very hard to do if it was in. Fact shot down. And so it sort of reignite the schism that was there even before I think it really gets to the fact that while we talk about De Escalation of tensions between the US and Iran. They're not eliminated in so it raises the sensitivity sensitivity around when the US speaks of right around and vice versa because things are on such a fine line in terms of tensions between the two countries as president. Trump was also asked about this as well this afternoon. What did you make of his comments? So the the president appeared to sort of be hinting that the the US intelligence assessment was what it was without saying that directly. He repeatedly said that this might be a mistake. He repeatedly said that he didn't believe that it. It was mechanical failure. He made reference to this happening in a very dangerous part of the world and so he really danced around calling this a mistake. A shootdown by mistake mistake but stopped short of assigning that assessment to a US intelligence assessment. Nancy what happens next. It's still unclear whether the black box will be released east. Will we ever know for sure what happened here. Well you raise a great point. The writings said they don't want to release the black box because they think it would go. It's affiliated with the United States. Eight and then it was because this was a Boeing aircraft One of its most popular aircraft. The challenge becomes. Obviously the there is no way to look at that Blackhawks. It'll be hard hard to use the most obvious data point as it were to determine what happened. One could argue that we could reach a point where Ron agrees to give those black boxes to a third party. Thirty third nation outside of it to do in his own assessment but in the absence of that if in fact the black boxes are damaged or are not released leased to an independent party. The debris field will become perhaps the biggest source of information in terms of determining the crash. There will be the we've talked earlier about the size of the debris field so it wasn't fact shot down you'll see evidence of that on some of the aircraft pieces that have landed and so those parts of the investigation Gatien will then lean very heavily on debris fields rather than black boxes if we get to that point. Ideally of course though you use a blackbox because it's really you can't duplicate the kinds of information information that can be gleaned from from information captured on a Blackbox Wall Street Journal National Security correspondent. Nancy use of joining me from Washington. Thank you so much nancy okay. Thank you president. Trump says he wants to overhaul federal environmental rules is to speed up infrastructure projects from day. One my administration has made fixing this regulatory nightmare a top priority and we want to build new roads woods bridges tunnels highways bigger better faster and we want to build them at less cost. Businesses have complained that the rules are too restrictive and have led to bureaucratic delays. He's but environmentalists are worried that changes to the National Environmental Policy Act weaken standards at a critical time. Joining me now with more details is Wall Street Journal Channel reporter Tim who go Tim. President trump says the changes here will speed up infrastructure projects and create jobs. Tell us more about what's in the proposal and and what the administration's vision is here. The crux of it is that they want to severely shorten the time line for these reviews right now. They take an average four years for highways seven other projects even longer the administration wants to get that down to just two years so have the average lint and and they want to limit how long even like the page count of these reviews can be sometimes there are hundreds of pages more than a thousand the administration feels like people will get better information. Decisions will come sooner for for permanent applicants and projects will be moved along or not much more efficiently if they put those kinds of limits on the reviews. Some businesses especially manufacturers have complained about the amount of time it takes to get necessary permiting and complete major infrastructure projects. What are you hearing from them about this proposal a lot of cheerleading? This is in many ways. Exactly what industrial interests wanted on it. All companies in particular there has been a big push for more pipeline capacity in the country and I say energy companies in particular but industrial interests of all types feel like environmental opponents have used these rules along with many others just to be obstructionists and if they can get faster answers on these permits best reviews that would go a long way to satisfying what a lot of the these businesses. This is walked. Let's talk about the other side here because critics are firing back saying that this would weaken environmental safety standards. And they say this could be a big setback in terms. TMZ of planning ahead around climate change. I think climate change is the big thing here. There's been bipartisan support for a long time at at shortening these reviews but the diagnosis of why they've become so long and the prescription for change. That's where the battle lines are being drawn. One part of what the administration wants to do is limit the scope of these reviews they see elements of how they have evolved fundamentally overtime. I'm as part of the problem. It Democrats say that there are better ways to speed them along. You had more federal workers to process these things they might go more quickly and then climate change as you alluded to is is the big concern. Here there are a lot of uncertainty is going forward about climate change. The effects could be dramatic. The risks wchs are dramatic and Democrats. Say that if you limit the scope of permit others to review that now to consider all those things now that it really handicaps us all aw going forward. It raises insurance costs potentially it raises societies exposures to the risks of climate change and potentially a very severe way. What happens next? This is still a proposal. What are its chances of moving forward? That is one thing that the chances are far from certain this is one of the most substantive certainly one of the broadest overhauls that the administration has tried to do and they don't have a lot of time to do it. We've got a sixty day comment period. That's for certain. Probably several months of review after that. I've heard some people estimate that could take more than two years. The administration often often finds that it takes longer than they expect to do these types of reviews and we know that. There's there's only a few months before. Mr Trump faces reelection. So there's there's a solid chance that if if he is not reelected that this doesn't get finalized a you could even have another administration come in vacate. The whole thing undo the changes. It's going to get sued. They could not defend its. There are tremendous obstacles to this becoming reality. All Right Wall Street Journal reporter. Tim Gluco joining me from Washington Washington. Thank you so much tim thank you. And that's what's news for this Thursday afternoon. I'm for totally for the Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening.

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NFL Championship Weekend

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14:35 min | 7 months ago

NFL Championship Weekend

"Already Yeah Hey what quick on the trigger there thank. You asked me if I was ready. I didn't know you meant. I Dunno whatever good better bets number. One gambling podcasts. On the Internet brought to you by Vandal dot com slash. McAfee the number one gambling site on all of the interwebs. I Yeah I believe I actually saw from their accounts that they did actually win an award for the number one jailing site on all of Internet. The number one platform your your best APP so You could do all your gambling fiasco dot com slash McAfee So without further ADO. I don't WanNa look I don't WanNa talk about the past. I mean I'm not sure how you guys did. Why talk about the past? Why talk about the best? When you're made we all we all knew borough is GonNa light up climbs and we go back? We wake me and you bet on. Lsu I swear it was me Oh man detours my fucking chump. Forget about it your future piece of Shit you said it. Man Dessau Grant the dynasty play. Don't so roll-back destiny is undefeated. That's not true. Yes it is unless you're talking about the final destination movies because in that case it is what I'm talking. Yeah okay good. We're on the same page all right. Well I don't think we need team's destiny destiny this weekend would you get off of your goddamn micro. It's Tom Unbelievable. Fan Dot com slash. McAfee before we get it all the games we are betting NHL and NBA Right now mba for sure college basketball. You can follow us on the sports action APP It's my action dot APP slash. Any of our names Diggs BUBBA gump. e-e-e-e-no todd monogamous. Todd or COMECON mccomb every single time. Never Mind a Boston last night for todd todd slash royalty all day for NHL he puts off his NHL fix on every single day. It's GonNa the weekend. There is a team of destiny nourish. That's where we're going to start Jason weekend in real couple stats for you. Let's go underdogs of touchdown or more have gone thirty seven twenty only six and one. That's fifty nine percent against the spread in the playoffs including nine into against the spread in conference championship games or later which both games fall under that category. This weekend outdoor postseason games have trended to the under with a record of seventy seven fifty eight in four not bad. Both Games are outdoor. This weekend wanted to give you those before. We before got started first game Tennessee. The at Kansas City minus seven and a half the Kansas City chiefs are over under fifty to sixty two percent of the bets are in Kansas City but only fifty five percent of the money's on Kansas City fifty eight percent of the bets and the money are on the over. I want to start with conor here. Okay here's the thing that I'm thinking. Also look at Verse Dynasty. Titans do feeling really do destiny. You go and beat. New England beat Baltimore. How can you bet against them? Bought after Mahomes in the chiefs went down. Twenty four nothing. It just feels like they for a second there. Imagine themselves not in the playoffs and knock going to the super bowl and it just kind of something snapped in mahomes brain and I don't. I think the chiefs should be stopped this year. So I'm going to take the chiefs my seven and a half and also if the Titans Win Win Win situation for me here. Why is that? Because if the if mahomes loses than his Garrett don't they go to the Super Bowl is over and if the titans win than you know it's like oh well at least it isn't the chiefs and the Patriots lost the Super Bowl contenders just a completely different story. So take a chief fact about the titans. They've now beat the number one offense and the number one defense in the playoffs. I do that against it since two thousand four patriots. What happened they won the superbowl? Alright Gumby same game your turn go teams who rushed for over one hundred yards or more in conference championships thirty one thirteen and wanting to spread. Got It if you know. That's a check mark in Tennessee. Calm I believe this is the highest over of Ryan Tannehill career. Yeah I don't like the total I'm not going to touch it. I like the chiefs to win but I do think the titans cover here. If I had to bet money money on a betting money show you have already guaranteed teased. Both of the favorites down to half a point. You in what what do you got. I don't trust anything at this stage in the playoffs. That's beyond the touchdown and the spread. Okay so therefore I am going to go over a hole in this first one and here normally I would say Derrick Henry Henry is so Casey's defense going on film lot and a lot of that is going to have to do with. I think Derrick Henry is going to have a lot of success like guppy indicated in however it's also because Kansas City gets the ball their offense going to score very quickly years so this is going to be unusual here because they don't have to to be on the field but more than a minute thirty seven on the board. I think it's going to be a close game but I don't think any trouble hitting the over in this one despite all all the stats. For outside games the stays in the play Okeydokey artichokes different animals here. These two teams played in week ten. I believe the score was thirty. Five thirty two DOC. Math correct there. Sixty seven points were scored in that in that game in that game. uh-huh threw for four forty six and three touchdowns. Henry ran for one ninety scored two touchdowns so the question here is who do you trust more Patrick Mahomes or dare Kendrick the the stats show. It's it's going to happen again. Titans are number two yards per rush. Casey is number twenty nine opponent stopping and stopping the runs per rush rush. He's only get easier. Didn't say those words correct Kris Jones. Being in the game is huge is really a practice. Exactly still oppression. If he's out then Durkin we might run for for two fifty. Casey is number four in passing yards per game. The Titans are number twenty five and opponents passing yards per game so it down to passer run in Dean Williams changes everything in my opinion for Kansas City. The fact that he is back changes everything down only from the red zone but especially the red zone. He's gives yards mahomes going to get his yard rushing. I think you're GONNA see a hundred on each side of the House now. Titans going to get all that from Henry. You're going to get it from homes combined with Williams on the other side there's one way east. He's Mahomes safety blanket to dump down. His mental dump passes so effective active. You know there's there's one way to beat this team and it is to keep Patrick mahomes off field even if he does go down and scored one minute. And it's the Paul and the Tennessee defense I believe is better than the Kansas City defense agree. I'm going to take seven and a half titans. GimMe destiny destiny. Even though Patrick Mahomes seems like a human of destiny yeah exactly. I hate this game by the way I just wanted to preface that with I do not like the PIC in this game as tough as this game was on Saturday. What why well? Because then we don't have to wait till Sunday I could but also just because it's terrible I do like my pick and his next game in the final game of the week. Go Green Bay at San Francisco over under forty five. Oh let's go. Fifty six percent of the bets are on San Francisco. Sixty eighty two percent of the money's on San Francisco. Seventy one percent tickets are on the over. Seventy three percent of the money is on the over. Gumby start with you. This is the fourth time Aaron Rodgers career. He's been a dog of seven or more points in those games. He's Owen three straight. Oh ooh Trent Lott okay. He's three and oh against the spread. Tricky there the line has moved to seven and a half when the align moves against Aaron Rodgers. He's fifty seven thirty seven and five against the spread so dean said that he could the Niners d he is fresh and healthy. I'm taking the niners stats. Don't mean I can't do it. Man I if this niners niners defense is clicking like it was last week. I just can't see them being stopped First game of the year it was thirty seven eight nine years now. That means anything. Todd I'm going to do exactly what he said. Capitol he just told you I agree one hundred percent. There's zero zero percent chance. The Green Bay wins escape. I truly believe that. I also think there's a great chance that they cover of seven and a half. I'm going to personally by this down to San Francisco minus six and a half in there but not expect you guys have to that. There's a little bit crazy I'm going to tell you that you can trust the over in this a whole wow. I'm telling you I know we're going for the sigma defy everything logically that you normally do based on the trends both games over where I think in Roger's GonNa do Aaron Rodgers things however it's not going to be enough to to win against this defense that's all back and probably the best the defense that's been on the field all year right so you're going over doing over okay. And in ninety six and a half I am also highlighted ended ended up six now see six NASCAR twenty five right now six. Am I okay. Thirty maybe thirty five. They'll do it. Let me talk to you. People tell that's go packers. Start of the packers offense talent. Tony someone's got their number eighteen in yards per rush ho-hum Gay Lillo Dis number twenty one and opponents yards for show packers slight advantage there but I watched the packers or the 49ers defense last weekend give ABS almost zero Russia. Absolutely eat Davin Cook. Then when you go to the packers passing attack there are number sixteen in yards per pass. uh-huh whatever San Francisco's opponents. They're number one so I don't know about their then. Let's let's go the other side of the ball forty nine forty nine hundred number nine yards per rush. The backers are number twenty four in giving up the yards per rush. Knock knock right. They're good and the forty niners of number three yards per pass Green Bay packers number nineteen giving up yours for thirty seven eight first game. I know it doesn't mean anything but of a healthy a healthy forty niners defense Kwan. Alexander's back to Karski Tart. Back Sherman's healthy deferred Quan. I for me when D- Ford's on that other edge jess gives bosa their own line is healthy. Is someone gossip car over that carbon monoxide. Get Outta the House James. The nine volt Bro. All right okay okay just a warning. Entire Caroline is back for the San Francisco. Forty niners kittles blocking his ass off. Yep Diva Samuel Emmanuel Sanders blowout. Now give me the niners Tony Give me. The niners will blow out. Well well well yeah well you guys love niners so naturally I am going with the packers seven and a half. I don't know what it is about teams. I get blown out in the regular dealership but whenever they come back in the playoffs. It's just a different story. I personally think that this is going to be an over game like todd says so with that being said it's gonna be a Rogers Garoppolo. Gumby I mean you said it. Three zero against the spread when the when it changes correct though fifty seven thirty seven forty seven and five three when the spread seven or more attention. That's what I meant to say. Still on your side just stole on the side and it just feels as though seven and a half is a lot against the packers. I'm probably going to dabble in the money. Line to sixty because I think why because I just audio's as though the packers might have at this year Mike Patton you give that defense from time. Let's go packers. I'll say this no matter what happens is we can. We did not get forty niners chiefs. I'm going to be upset. I think that's the matchup desert either or in the NFC packers titans or niners. Titans kill me so you don't WanNa see it at this point. I'd like to see a good game so I do. I want to be there but I mean I just don't WanNa Watch Derrick. Henry run all over the place and it's it's kind of entertaining to watch all right. Those are real. Let's go. That was nice. Quick episode once. Football season is over. I think we're GONNA be coming to you on a more frequent basis with all of the other sports As always follows us on the action network over picks their fanta dot com slash mcphee Good luck follow us on twitter. He doesn't incredible job at good. Better bad crashes so. You're winning tickets. You're bad beats your opinions. Your thoughts anything you want to have featured on that little twitter page Celtics pause ten tonight Good luck good luck. Look good art.

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#528 - Maki Pitolo, Eric Albarracin, Shang, Sean McCorkle, Ian Harris

MMA Roasted

1:06:45 hr | 2 months ago

#528 - Maki Pitolo, Eric Albarracin, Shang, Sean McCorkle, Ian Harris

"Hebert look into euros to podcasts me Adam Hunter. We got a great show today. We Got Shang in the House Man Shang. We have Ian Harris whose alarium comedian also trader laco has zone Jim Dude. He's like he's one of the most humble funny crazy atheists. Funny Crazy strange. In a good way, Bill integrate way. We we also have Machi appleaday? WHO's coming off a huge win one last week? with body shots actually the guy retired after every Fordham Bird and then we also have eric album region, calling in who? Is A trainer for training for everybody for Henry Henry Pseudo? He also trains Korean Zombie trains, the pit, bull, brothers, and then we have shown mccorkell civil all this in an hour. Want to thank our sponsor speed listen. Marijuana's legal in California. Go delivered right to you. Don't leave your house. Okay. They'll take care of it. Mention and they roasted. You get ten dollars off a hundred dollars or more. Sheng start with you how you doing man. I'm actually. Doing better I'm doing much better you know. My son is not bill with the. Kobe thing too well so I'm trying to make sure he's okay. Because all he sees on TV is oh. People died, so I'm trying to explain to him as he so Yang. It's not everybody is hard to get so. Mad. At America. Suns forty so. Eventually, you know. said he's not. He's not figuring it out yet, so I'll get. Well the government is not fair, either so your kid, actually probably you know. Everybody. The world's not figuring out the. Year old! Figure it out. You know so. And how you doing as far as like 'cause I wanNA talk to you. Also Ian as well. We had We had Hector Lombard on yesterday. WHO's a huge? You know to the right trump supporter. As far as What do you think's going to happen in the future now as far as police brutality as far as cleaning up the the culture, the government. What are your thoughts on all of this? Meal you. Know I think it's GonNa get worse before it gets better I think the police going to be reactionary I. They're gonNA. Come at first and then I. Because this, oh, consistent with protests than and worldwide going to have to Kinda compromise. They're going to have to figure out yet. Really can't push neo. Somebody could send minutes. I mean just basic shits like a promise just puts me on. Somebody's fucking neck for ten minutes. Even if I was watching. Joe Rogan, and he said that he said what he's been in that position with judo even for two minutes. It's fucked up yet, so imagine all your weight in Shan on your neck for eight and a half minutes. I'm sorry, not Simmons Eight and a half minutes. He said it's gotTa be horrible. So I think that the police will at and I think that trump is gonna be trump trump is. A man, shout me. Somebody's a fucking. Chow and he's GonNa React end. I think he's I think he's GonNa win. Those I think he's GonNa win I think he's GonNa win but I think that. is going to be worse and worse than I think the revolt or where he's going to have to retire I. Mean He's going to have to just resign. It's just he can't. Continue at that little petty pays he does. He came and your thoughts now? He's GonNa. Lose for sure I think. Every day he's dropping. He's down fourteen points and our something. The. Only thing is America's really short memory. And and you know we could in two months, you know the stock market could go one point and and people like are. Like everything's Okay and they might forget about it. Who knows, but I think he's GONNA lose big. And I think I think that. I think Chang's right. It's GonNa. It's always going to get worse for a while, but I think this is. This is definitely a turning point. We've never seen this. We've seen this happen and we've seen riots. We've seen protests. We've seen all sorts of stuff. We've never seen it at this level. We're going on two weeks now and Sunday I couldn't even drive home. Many people and this is worldwide. We're getting it when people in Iran. Etienne's going. Up. You know that it's bad. When there's riots in Afghanistan over the oppression in America, we're having. We have a problem here and so I I think that's going to be I think the cool thing is if I can say I. Don't know if this is probably another thing to say but. I think having being locked down for three months with vid has helped in a sense because they'd been. Tell you why it's helped? Give people out because a lot of people were already raining already waiting to get out and I think they're like fuck it. Let's go outside and fucking. March and I think helped. It's been like a powder keg of people upset about one thing and upset about this other thing and it coming together at the same time, and it just got people to get out I think more people have gotten out in the streets than normal now, Shang now from personal experience I know one time. When I was in my twenties, I was at. The mets Yankees first time ever they ever played each other. And while you're walking in the security, said met fans and write your own risk. They would tell you that as you walk into the stadium. Five kidding I heard it. So, it was over and over, they kept saying it at the end of the game. Mets won I was outside with my my little brother. My of course, my car died I call triple. A AAA came a cop. A drunk cop was there with his buddy stole our. AAA I go no. I told him to come. Basically at this rock was not bad. I go. What did you had I? Had to get my brother home. BRO, soccer game! What are you talking about? The cop took me drew me against tree and goes. You've got a problem. And I I was like. Get Your fucking hands off of me, you know, and then he goes come in. My Office took me into a empty. Bathroom it in like a parking lot and goes. Give me your best shot. Come on, and on one hand I'm like man I didn't maybe. Not this guy out other hand go. Which I probably couldn't at that point I'm Fox. Your guy had a gun and badge and I. Go I don't WanNa. Fight you. I end. The guy was drunk I. Can I can I could smell the alcohol on him, and he was like you dig your whole fucking pump Blah Blah. Blah Blah Blah was a white cop then I was like all right. then. My friends like get his back to my friend. He's a good his badge. Number I go. Can I have your bedroom goes back at my fucking office? No, no okay. Then I told another cop I go. That guy just roughed me up. He goes welcome to the Bronx so the constant right so that is. That is. that. Was My that was. My first and basically last experience getting fucked up by the. I've. been here now. Now now you as a black man in America. How how many times have you been fucked up by? The cops are pro. Three and I've had a gun pulled on me twice. What would happen? I was run into some way to get to gag and they on men in thought I was a prisoner. Snatch I obviously I. Didn't have the person my hands pulled a gun on me is like. Get Down, get down and I had the village voice in my hand I'm like no I'm met the comedy club. We give and I literally showed my pictures. Get my show and he went. Okay what we thought. You might have grabbed the person like no. I'm going to show at. Said then. He took off his, so we'll go ahead on Mike, so you're not gonNA. You'RE NOT GONNA. Apologize Nothing, he says. Hey, I Sama. Let you go. You're lucky I'm let you go like. What do you mean you lucky? Let me go so when he actually pulled a gun on me, I didn't get scared after my said I was weird after my said it was like. I was so when it gets to my Gig I. Didn't even think about it that way, but yeah I've had gone spice. Meet once on a traffic. Stop once on that and. Showed Carol Montgomery, you don't care mugged. I was I was a feature for her cops. The. Waitress was driving home from a club called spell binder's. Driving me not home to the room and I wasn't even driving any pulled over for drunk driving. She wasn't drinking driven out. The car. Rough me up. Slam you on the hood said Hey. You've been drinking. I'm not I'm not even driving. Talk Much of against. Trying to. And what made me mad was? Trying to treat me like a new. Beijing. And then that's what he said also courthouse lawyer, and he grabbed him this. My were behind me, delegates foam, and then that's when I started talking shit. I I got mad like. You're such it man, if if we'll be lucky, got beds. I actually said that you luck you bad, which made me Madder, and of course the waitresses freaked out and discards Carol Montgomery in Germany. Comes and bails me out. In Houston Germany with her son Dylan in her arm. And her arm, calling Haycock Cock, suckers fucking soccer's. He's a good guy with the Foxtrot with you. To do the COPS. I was like Carol Montgomery. That's right I'm trying to trying to listen to all different sides to this to people are talking about and you got people like. Candice Owens's Tucker Carlson. who were saying that that ten? Unarmed black people have got shot two thousand nineteen, which is way too much, but those ten five. Or six attack the COBWEBS, before they're thing, they're saying that this whole thing rage is a myth as far as cops, targeting or black people now through it all, but it's so. And what I'm thinking is if that was the case, why would there be so many people outside protests? We have ten on video this week. What are you talking about? Well. Here's the thing they actually. This statistic is actually on average. It's on average. It's like four hundred. Black men. Are Killed by police and white men or killed by police, they always share that the same number of black men and white men are killed by police every year, but what they leave out conveniently is. The unarmed aspect of it. Right, what happened before that did they killed like philander custodio because they said I'm reaching for my wallet, and they got shot, or were they white guys on Meth, that were just fucking shot up a house, and they killed him, and also what happened to the cops after that? And they're also forgetting the fact that. Black people are twelve percent of the population. White people are seventy percent of the population, so if there's ten white people ten black people. Per Capita. That's six times the amount you have to add all that in so when it's six times, the amount and half of those are unarmed on traffic violations, but it's also also I think all the on your man aged. Thing although. I think people are upset. About isn't just people who have died. It's the situations like Shang. It's the people that I've been running and getting on the ground, and you look like someone who stole purse right I mean. Is it as you know right? Isn't that Shang? Also people want to me that that's part of it, but it's a cumulative thing of all the different situations Sandra Bland on and on and on and we got video after any video you see. NOBODY DID ANYTHING WRONG? Why would you as? Even if the president are cops, police start smashing people with shields and shoot people with tear gas when they we have a video of them peacefully protests over and over over and over. We seem in different cities. The cops them snacking on this guy was seventy seven still was seventy seven and I'm telling you. He did not look like a threat. If you've seen the video when I say, he's pushing down buses. They step over Mike Stretch right right, and so it's not just black. It's just police. I am a theory on that that that. It's police. Okay. I'll take the reason why it's disproportionately. Black is because I think first off. Police are not trained. At all you go through six weeks of of some sort of hand to hand combat. You GotTA learn I was talking to Greg Jackson about this because he does a lot of a lot of stuff. He said they were teaching them like one hundred seventy moves in the academy. Like, hundred and seventy due to. Teach them five? Make them bus. They're asking are month learning those five, and then have a strategy when a strategy and when they when it doesn't work, you pull it after two minutes or whatever you pull out. Then you re engage. He hasn't sold is he? Teaches combative police now, but he was telling me like the stuff that they had I was like. That's crazy to me that they have all. These techniques gotTA learn two weeks. And then you know if you've thought and trained at all, you can be years of training every day and WanNa fight comes your stiller. Yeah, of course I get somebody out there who who think their life is on the. The line and you know and they're already nervous. They're already authoritarian mindset. They're already the type of people that want to control people and they've got this thing I've got a gun. I'm a bad ass and they've got two weeks of training. They don't even know how to handcuff somebody properly. So that's that's the main thing is the mindset of people that become cops and their lack of training, but then you add racism on top of that, and I bring this up all the time partner. My Jim was the first heavyweight, Ma. Champion of California. He's two hundred and sixty five pounds. He's a rock and he's a bad ass. Okay, he's A. He's a monster. And he always talks bounces and he'll always talking about stories and every time. He tells he starts telling me about. All these guys came in and this. They started everytime black guys. He always goes these two big black dudes. And I realized having that conversation with him that we say that all the time. If there's a situation in, it's black guys. We always point out the black guys. No one ever goes. Man I was at the bar. In these two Jewish dudes came at me. These, two Chinese guys came always to black dudes. Why because we are supposed makes the story scarier because we're supposed to be scared of black are now, but as a basketball. That's always a white dude. If a guy like people say that White Dude. So Esther. But I think that into it, and then you and then you have how people out of control because they think this, this guy is scarier and more dangerous, but we'll. Continue this conversation right now. Let's talk to McKee Potolo by the way from hope by. MAKIHATA huge win. You see Maggie Chang. Last week man, I'm going to say this a please don't hurt me. Damn. Bro. Body shots were unbelievable. Those. are some of the hardest body shots I have seen in an may fight. was that was that part of the plan was a part of the goal. My my my goal is always hands on my opponent. I love the Santa Pollock to be I feel like I'm an entertaining fighter, and at the I just want the general public to know that. Anybody can get it on any given day when I'm there. While they I mean. You definitely got retired the guy. Did did. Didn't know it. Can I also ask the question? Did you feel like the first body shot felt like okay. This is why I can. I can soften 'em up and I could weaken him from that, and then you continue, or was it more like okay? I'M GONNA. Do Combinations of. Down Low it's when I do. That that that's how I play I. Like to I'd just like to continue so attack. Everybody my opponents the overwhelm and let them know that. You can block your head. Your body's going to get. He can block your body. Your kids going to get it and then sooner or later, you're going down. While, you know what I liked about you because they kept saying young. Prospect Young Prospect. You've been in this since two thousand nine. You doing. Very long eleven years man. And you've made it. You got to the UFC then you got to a contender. Then you've got. You had to go back to Bela Tor. Told you to win a couple of fights. You've been grinding for a while man. It's nice to see that. You're actually getting some kind of prompts. You have been putting in my time I've taken along the long road the hard road. It wasn't easy to get where I'm at I'm happy I'm here and he's onto. Make my dream come true, tangled buckle down even more and sit in the fire just a little bit longer. Let these guys know next fight I can really wake division. Let them know that. I'm here to play a playwright now. These huge hoops in your ear 'cause Are you worried about them? Getting ripped out at all? Even if it does we still fighting. Now. What is it about Hawaiians that you guys are so good at fighting? It just seems like there's always a brawl. Though is every bar strip close astronaut any something in our water. I've served Hawaii a few times and they just sometimes. Holly and they're just pile up and just go whack and just punch you. I'm not even doing anything maybe. A bunch of you're like what the? Yup. I heard of it happening to and I've heard of that. And then Hawaii ABC parked in the wrong spot. That's. And Hawaiian women are always so hot, but they get pregnant like sixteen. Seventeen Am I. Am I right? I'm GONNA say eighteen. But have you seen her? You train with Max Holloway. Fancy Medeiros I, mean you. You train with some Bee's? Yes China beat. These are my brothers and just training with them and knowing that they made it. A new ice will be there and it just going to be. Timing, timing was all I was always a waiting for it. Got In the show at the right time I'm primed out. I'm ready to take on any any opponent, and that's really the one eight five division was was just whereas to get get in. By. Your boss tells you want seventy. You GotTa vote to one seventy. I mean when you train with Max Holloway. You gotta be able to push. That out I. Mean we all want? We all want the best for each other men and we're to push each other to to help back to see us. Tea CR boys to be successful. Even after your fight, you go, the world is more aloha. Let's hate. That's for sure. That's one in ten percent my bottle. That's pretty damned I mean that's exactly what we need and more Hawaiian girl to more Hawaiian. Trade with Rachel Ossetia's shoe. here there, not all the time. She has her own spot. And then you're married When did you get married? I got married last year. All Right! Must we just we just made one year, but we were together for over over ten years. Somebody already GIG as cool. Yes, my ice, we heart look a human. She must have been like all right. Let's get married already right with he like pressuring you. She was. But she waited out ten years man. She's. Staying, sticking out. The Gate mcgivney begins the road. She's the real. She's a real box when it comes to my team. Were you fighting in high school? I was at I fragment on seventeen, but I was a football player. My My popsy wanted me playful boy, and go that route, but a a fighting, and that's really a turned it around. It's great. Well, listen. Congratulations managed wanted congratulate you. stay healthy can't wait for your next fight. Man, thank you, thank you appreciate it. Guys go body shots, man, buddy, monkey, going more to come I guarantee you guys. The BUSINESSMA. Everything Man. Thank you, thank you, thank you appreciate against. Coconut bonds. Could, but that's the name. A lot of a lot of people. that. Don't use body shots I. Think they miss out because if you look at even out I. Don't like Tyron Woodley seem such it among fucker does body shots. You know you got it so so they announced today to fight. Island is going to be an Abu Dhabi. which is crazy that we have to go to the Middle East like by peacefully. Talked up America is right now. We've got Abu Dhabi. So and they announced that it's going to be Gilbert Burns versus use mon.. Is One of the fights on fight island. What? Yeah, because Moscow all they can come to a contract with Masato thought they ended up signing one. No, no, no. This is gonna be Gilbert Burns versus mode about that, then they just what about okay, at which their teammates to those two guys It's be good fight though I don't know. What really why? Gilbert Gilbert Burns Jitsu. Sick and A. It's going to be a good fight. You don't think it's as you say, but I mean use Mon-. I don't know. Power is just yet look. Look at both sides against Woodley Pretty Comparative I. Mean They both pretty much. When five rounds! Woodley with the didn't really show up I mean what are these already find? The already signed the contract against Covington he's waiting for coming on the contract. As should be a good fight. For. What's up with Woodley like, is he? He's trying to be. A comedian in a rapper and a movie stars like go back to fighting, do because. He has been something off. His way off crazy. Too many what is it too many irons in the fire I don't. If that's the case right now, but what you know, what before the news? When he other than that the fights before that he he was more focused and I think fighters that do too many things aren't focused I agree, but he was focused against Gilbert Burns. He said he did everything right. He just didn't show up to the fight. You've never had that a trainer in a guy who everything I just not show up none of the fight I I honestly man I've been wanting to do a documentary about about the Similarities between com- COMEDIANS and fighters. And I because I really think it's boiled down to so many people have fucking anxiety so many fighters I mean it's more than more than normal. It's got to be like a feel like fifty percent of the fighters have some sort of weird anxiety. Thing that they're trying to control in there and it's like they don't control it it. It overtakes all the time where everything is right, and they get in there and they don't do anything that they trained. And other people you see, they suck in training and they get in there, and they kill it and you're like how I so compose no. One of the Best I've heard is that it's not who the better fighter is. It's the better fighter. Is that night absolutely because yeah, but look people I know the people that follow game plan and a game plan and they fucking executed. If you look at Mazda doll, he executes his game plan. If you look at. They show footage of him training, but now he does, but the for a while he was on like a three or four five skin. On Skin, but he he had he had to go away he got. bugassault coming back. What could we decided this weekend? We've seen it twice in the last month, Ganci. And in cody. Coating Cody Nola cody. Garbrandt I was like he's done. He's gone. He's got no chin. Forget this. and. He shut me up this weekend because he looked. He the both of those guys listen to their coaches were like Brian Brawling. Let's start doing what you're good at well. Let's I think also with cody and starting up to but I. A team Alpha male. They didn't really have a coach. They had a coach, but it just seemed like it was Duane Ludwig. And then it was just in Brussels, and then it was this guy. It's like four and it was you know Martin Kampman before that it was a favor holds just go see goes and leaves. It goes to mark. Henry. With those guys with. Frankie Edgar and the beat. Eddie Alvarez and that crew and he and he was able to kind of see what seemed like fresh eyes and. Fresh, is you know it's a coach is different than seeing someone over and over again and I think not having. Not Having a chin, but knowing his chin human helped him out because he wasn't doing the reckless shit that he thought of. My Chin can take whatever punch rice. Though he thought better now Sean, o'malley called him out I. Think I think that's the fight to watch. Actually I want to see that fight. Do you think that's going up too fast for o'malley I mean? The way I agree. I don't think I mean remember. o'malley's debut was against was against the guy that I coached and Terry on the one that fight I thought Terry on. Honestly if you go if you go by damaged Jerry did win that fight you go by round by the first round was razor thin. Third Round was razor thin. Second Round almost could've been ten eight. He beat the crap out of Malik and a cool kid I like him, and he's good, but internally on good, but when I look at it if cody plays like he did this, this is. He's he's GonNa he's GonNa be, but if he if he gets, he gets reckless and starts trying to to throw start brawling a little bit. o'malley does have a region. He does have power and he's calm. That's the biggest thing about o'malley and guys like Mazal. They show up to fight, and that goes a long way man and And that's the thing about o'malley is that? I don't think a skill level is there is not the cody sound like cody. But he's. He shows he can show up and you can put it on anybody on the right night because he's so freaking, confident and. He's also young enough words. It'll be like a Max Holloway Dustin. Corey a situation where Y-. Even if he loses the if he looks good, you're gonNA say oh in three or four years. This guy's going to be champ. Holloway poor. He came out he lost, but everyone was like. That's a kid to watch. Max Holloway, yeah. That's the same thing, but I. said like you said it's some people. I'm like I'm like I'm like a bunch of Shit, but under every tournament for some reason. I would do. Everything I was taught, but then I get nervous. I'm like wait I ran. All the should something about once you're in here is different to me. Although writers man I mean like someone who has ocd that when I used to wrestle is to have to pray fucking ten times for a rematch I. where my lucky jacket I had I like to sleep on the side of the bed. Certain things I mean happens in your head. You look at like sugar, Ray Robinson. who was the greatest boxer of all time? Okay, wouldn't it? That he sugary route is still get I. Still I still give Defense Wise. Floyd Mayweather is okay fine I'm going. Sugar Robinson, but. He would not take the stairs. He was scared of stairs like and it'd be took the stairs. He would like skit every third step like certain fighters. They have that thing. It's like you do everything right you win, and then it's like then you lose a fight. You Go. Okay, what? What was different? Oh, I ate pasta the night before or Wasters instead of fucking cheeseburgers whatever it is and that's you know that's. I think he's. Cody will athen. Cody will if cody doesn't get reckless coating doesn't think I'M GONNA I'm GonNa show this kid something I'm a Broadway and he doesn't get caught. Cody will in cody will marquee. It'd be honest with you. Maybe he needs to get marked. I think also the wrestling wise coding. No love is a very underrated wrestler. He wrestles. No, he he he, he should be able to beat o'malley everywhere. The thing though is that like I. Say I'll give it to him Alex when when he Tehran. I thought he was broken. I thought I thought he was going to quit. He just face us. He's he looked and he came the round. and was like all right. Let's go and he has that he does have that in them and the thing to me is if. If if coney uses wrestling uses, distance uses a speed and his timing. He he's better than Middle Molly everywhere, but molly starts landing on him and gets Geek because he gets in his head. Start if they start talking in the media about how good o'malley is, ego starts getting angry and starts going after then he's GonNa, lose and so, but he shouldn't lose that fight. That's what makes it a good fight to me because I really think cody's better everywhere. But I just think that o'malley might have the same name. Connor has like connors. Good, but I look at skills into Mike. He's got a heavy left handed. Striking's pretty good. He's a brown belt and Ju-, but he's just the confidence in the all that whole. All the extras that make the make someone like the o'malley or or connor great speaking retired all right. Let's talk about that for a second because. You one of the coolest things I. Almost Never Watch like post. Fight fights over I go to bed or my wife. Would you don't ever you don't I don't I spent six hours watching this. From limbs whatever I got to get. Child, but for some reason I couldn't sleep in away. His media scrum afterwards, and he was going off because he was like look. This is the hardest in Iran. Do No sports out there except for us on taking shots from everybody and now all these guys are retiring and he's like fuck it. If you don't want to be with me, you don't WanNa road me later. We're going forward and we'RE MAKING PEOPLE STARS THEY WANNA fight, and he's the only game in town right now and I gotta Say I. Kinda was like Fuck. Yeah, like I. Kind of got inspired by that a little bit. Not that I want fighters do not get paid granted. That's not good. I think better should deserve more pay, but right now might not be the best time to negotiate right now when there's nobody in the stands literally, but now can't say that and I. You know I just because. They're still going to be pay per view and there's some people that just have that thing I think Mazda has I think the as has a I think that I. Think Conor McGregor has it. I think that they bring in so much money to that fucking UFC. They deserve a bigger chunk of putting their ads on a fucking line every single time. They do deserve a big chunk. You know I think this is the biggest jump though the guy getting twelve thousand dollars because Acai is paying Ian. He's Pang lawyer. He's paying his camp. He's paying his insurance or whatever the fuck he's paying. Like that guy. That's the guy that I kind of feel for I mean not that I don't feel McGregor. I if he's getting five hundred thousand, you get a million or two million or five months bringing in that, but when I look at the guy who who who the one in one guy who. You know who's twelve thousand dollars. That's the guy that I'm like I. Don't know that's the guy that I. Sort of wish was getting the bomb, not every. Did they do like a high up guys. Getting percentages like a lot of people you know a lot of the big names percentage of the pay-per-view by, and that's where you're getting. That's where you're getting like the DSP's. We're getting the millions and you've got a connor getting the millions and I think that's that's great. If you're a draw, you should draw, but you're absolutely right like you think about an extra grant. Would give the bottom the undercard. It would give every every fighter on that card. Another ten thousand dollars a hundred grand. It's nothing for them. So two hundred grand would give everybody an extra twenty grand like I. Mean I just think they can easily the bottom pay for these guys? To like. Twenty, five and twenty five or Twenty and twenty something as opposed to twelve at twelve. It's like you should, and you should always go up a little bit. When they have an hour. It's like it's twelve and twelve, and if you lose the next fights still. Yeah, that's the Guy I don't think McGregor. especially the boxing you guys like Andrea Burto, point five million dollars, a fight or something, and you're just like Andre Berto the. Rondo, he did okay. The thing I don't WanNa. Boxing is I don't want to be like the best ever fight other. Where you gotta wait like Mayweather. Versus Pacquiao happens like five years too late. At least now we're getting the best is, but I do think there's something about being like I. Don't know I I kind of like to wake up praised it. Hey, it was just like fuck it. You WanNA fight. We got fights rea-. You don't WanNA fight. Don't fight you. With the big note with some fighters. Yes, but with the big boys and I. What I consider, the big boys people are doing stuff they're becoming. Highlight reels on every buck than you look on Europe's. Either highlight reels. That flying me. was posted. You're not on the top ten. Knockouts is on every single one of. It was unbelievable and. Not only did he plan the knee? He practicing over and over again, and that's the first city and his hands behind his back home. Was Unbelievable. I thought it was GONNA Mirko I. AM wrestling the death. Here's here's where where the UFC. The entertainment industry is Comedians I. It's the same thing this is where they all make mistake. Everybody wants you to do you as the performer to do all the work. Yeah, and they act like I've had so many conversations with agents and managers like you know if you gave Adam Hunter. A netflix special and you promoted it. He would be famous, and then everyone would be like Oh Adam hundred. They would like Shang whoever you gave it to you. I think you don't have to wait for them to have a million followers to give them. And the same thing here they could build all these fighters if they wanted to. They have because the thing is. They're not giving the people. On Netflix, they're giving people like just hilarious or someone. King Bach who became fitness for making ten second videos and all of a sudden specials fucking? because. It's garbage, so miss because people. Because they didn't get it the other way now. We got the man the lesson right here. Eric Alberici and who? Military veteran silver medal. Pan Am, champion and wrestling. Military champion I mean, and now dude trains and we know he trains the full brothers trains the Korean Zombie. Trains the. Eraser Killing the game man very under appreciated. How does he wear shirt? As well. Where the hell are you right now? On the beach. Beach actually I went to high school here in Coral Springs Florida. We came down for UFC two forty nine Jacksonville. Obviously for Henry, and then Now I stayed down here. Because this is where I went to high school, my mom was down here my sister's. And also, there's A. Alexander Pantoja. One of my players from the ultimate fighter twenty four, he was on team pseudo and in my eyes. He's probably going to be the champion soon so. I'm always in contact with them and always falling forum and things like that. Speaking of Henry. The fight against dominant crews that go exactly. Hey, we're GONNA go. Exactly, how it's going to go, the plan was to chop off his legs deliver met them to Carol Baskin here in Florida, so she could feed him to the Tigers Wow. Now Dominic things. It was stopped too early. You think it was stopped too early. Well I think. Keith Peterson, no nonsense. Peterson was trying to prevent. CTE, but I guess not. Wow. Okay now, so who knows that he's he's retired. But now he might not retire anymore. He's come out and fight either Ryan. Garcia or Volkan Hausky. Listen. Let me. Let me SIP on this second. Yes. He Stayed The flyweight division did not yes, he did a came along and now the one hundred thirty five pounds of business the harvest in the in the UFC right, he's trying to help out the once the federal way division so. Help them out. He's trying to save another way. When has anybody talked about this way? Class Everson until Henry sued or brought it up, come on. The so trying to save. Why would he find Algebra's. Algebra and look great in his last fight wouldn't fight sterling. Well. At this time, he. Probably you don't want to be. Fighting somebody that That's got knocked out by the guy that he. Knocked out, so Henry's last fight was a mall in the rise Marlin. Ryan I've wanted the most devastating knockouts of. in that in that division, probably in the UFC so I think that's the other thing Henry wants Harry's a conqueror. He wants legends, and if she. Wants belt where on the gold rush look behind me. Look at all that. Gold Baby. Goal that told you. Thank me, we're going to be the gold. Rush Twenty twenty. It's GonNa be even better. I want to ask quick question. How do you? The Korean Zombie. How you train is due. He just looks like. He says seems case. He just focus forward I don't know how would your you're? You're Kinda style how you drive him. Koreans I'm kidding me me and him are like this. Just seems he's a beast. I'm not saying he's not a beast ever. Eric who mean the pickle brothers. You speak. Portuguese do you speak Korean? How you? Follow put a gaze. Onion has yours Korean. What language you speak up doing dance. You question about Korean Zombie is. Community be. He wants to win. I got the good energy. We're on the road. This train is rolling. You want to hop on this train if you WANNA be Champs in. If you want to be the go, you know what I'm saying I can I. Can I say something that I? Want to get your take on this because I spent a long time ago. Back in WBZ days I spent two weeks with Green Zombie in Colorado training. and. I was impressed at how quick he pick stuff up. Like I, think he actually finished with a Darce. Chad Who is coaching showed him. Like against some. And then we work in triangles, endorses and his next to a two. Wins were like triangles garces, and then he went off and I saw him catch the twister and they're like. Oh, he was just working last week. He picks up so quick. It's amazing about Korean Zombie. Has that exactly what you said? He picks up real quick when I I. I. I started coaching them He was at fight ready. In, Scottsdale Arizona and Eddie had brought him. There and I was training Henry Tree so pit bull and the eraser all in one camp, and in the other camp on the other side was Korean Zombie and then we started I gave them my training partner for. A Henry he started training with Korean Zombie which was Leandra ego from Bella tour, and then we start, and then obviously when he went with. A Korean Zombie they brought me. asking. Hey, what is he doing Korean Zombie? And then we started working but I'm sure he had A. He was like Oh, I don't know Eric's to UH maybe out outlandish. Once once I started showing him moves and getting own and. Connect well I mean it's A. If you WANNA win if she wanted to be the go if you want if you want world titles. What's? What's not to like about that so true? I mean. I do everything for these guys I'm willing to sacrifice anything. We got the eraser right now. He's in. He's getting ready for Israel Zahn out assigning follow cost, and it's the travel ban to get into Brazil right now, trying to fly to another country and cross the border. A forest jungle. Whatever it takes, we're I'll I'll I'll go to the epicenter of the cove nineteen. That Koby nineteen is a hoax sponsor power. I now, Eric. By the Eraser Paulo Kosta. There are some pictures where he looks like. Hulk. Other pictures. He looks like A. Precious. How does this is? What's going on as far as this dude's body like? Why Why is it on Tuesday? The Guy Looks shredded and Wednesday looks like Oprah like serious. Talk to me. When someone put up your say the I forget the postman from Seinfeld yeah. He looked exactly like command, UFC two forty eight. So. He's a big boy man. He is a big boy. He he cuts. He arrives the week of the fight twenty over maybe twenty five. that's something as a as a coach I have to like. Some coaches. There you have the able to each one of these champions are are all different, so for Paulo. He's somebody have to tame the pull-back I have to. Stop them from train minutes or no girl was the same way. It's like okay. It's six hours. Training stops. Come on, so it's like he'll try to five in the morning if you let him and sometimes we can't stop them so I think. That's something that you know. He gets big out of a yeah out out of camp, but what happened, was he? He had that surgery. You had really two surgeries on his five step kid. Advise of surgery and guess what the number the first exercise he gets back when he gets cleared to to like lift minimal weight. He grabs like a hundred pound. Dumbbell and tries to curl it it really. He had two surgeries on the same injury. and. so he was out. He couldn't work out. It was eating living in America at that time in La, so he's eating out. He's eating. Food full of GMO's. He's all all the carbs just eating out in general. Is Not GonNa you're, GonNa gain weight. You know how it is when you're on the road all the time, right of course or now by the question is I, know as a coach, sometimes even like middle school wrestling coach, sometimes like I'll get a kid that transfers in and he just a lot of things, really well other things not so well, but I don't WanNA faculties doing well. It's hard to screw you. Know what I'm saying like. He does things that I'm like. I don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA. Rebuild the guy. Right. For you as a coach? How is it like you're wrestling coach? But you got a guy like pseudo. WHO's a gold medalist wrestler or you got a guy like Korean Zombie. How do you know what to take back and what to work on and not make the kid worse? I'll tell you the truth takes an open mind I always say that the illiterate of the twenty first century is not. Someone, who cannot read? Someone could not who cannot learn unlearn, and then learn again many to relearn as a person from a traditional scored the original sport wrestling. Every coach will coach the same way. His coaches touched taught him and. You can't bring that it. There's if I brought the rustling attitude in the wrestling. Tradition to Emma May I'd have no fighters. You cannot do that where you. The the wrestling coaches WanNa, make you up. They WANNA they. WanNa to weed out the weak only the strong survive, and that's part of the reason why we're successful, but it's also part of the reason why a lot of people aren't in wrestling and I think weed out some of our best athletes by getting rid of them early when I was in the military, we had some called all army championships. In every year. A couple of hundred soldiers from even from Afghanistan and Iraq, some people that were deployed to Kuwait some people that were deployed in Germany just all over the world. They'd come to our wrestling and. Goal as a as as a captain, of of. In the military, you know they tell you. Hey, by the end of the week by the end of this warm up. I want fifty to drop out. So you make the fifty the hardest worms you could possibly conceive and fifty dropout and they go back overseas. that's how hard it is, and we just want by the end of the month. I just want ten. In that, maybe there was like a super athlete in that group. But we got rid of him early. Before he could develop, so I think that's part of the problem with wrestling. Is that we get? We're kind of like what do we always say at least I remember is quite used to go to the track athletes I school. Football players are always wanted. To get athletes on my team Egged is too hard. Right as just like man so the heart. A stat tradition of always Pushing your athlete to the brink of over training, and that's what you know. Joe Rogan said it says it best is like we are addicted to over training and over training isn't the way to do it now. You have to be smart. Yeah, I mean Henry, so Hudo Patrizio pit bull I taught We brought heart variability to them The game has changed in and when I go from MMA and I go back to wrestling I. See it I'm like. Wow, these guys are like cavemen. Still like you know cutting weight. I used to wait thirty turns different. I try to wait in a hundred different ways. Now I could wait. My fighters cut thirty tonnes different, because I tried thirty different ways myself, and now you're telling me you lay in the TUB, and put some epsom salt bath in there, and you're gonNA lose ten pounds. You know how hard it was to do that. In my day to lose ten pounds, you don't plastic on your bringing Aerodyne in the Sonnen, you're going crazy. I used to sleep now with smart I sleep with the window, open and shiver. Shiver off way to die. I'm not well I do that. They do say your. You're the tell all my fighters the day before Wayne's leave. That can air conditioning on so even when you're sleeping. Your body's working to burn calories to keep yourself warm. People Love I love. The people always think that. You burn calories when you're sweating. No, you burn calories when you're cold. And you're trying to heat your body up. That's exactly a calorie is a unit of heat, and it's like sweating when it's cold. That's when you really burning calories just. Because you're sitting in a hot place, otherwise everybody in Arizona would be skinny. Thing I'd like about about these about about. Wrestling I'm. Good to hear you could have had a lot of wrestling coach got to train a lot of places, wrestling based or the or the coaches a wrestler, and they bring Alex, but they bring it with all the rest of Ma Mike. You can't go one hundred percent with elbows and punches and kicks sparring every day like you. Do you do wrestling so i? told me. l., the guy had me in a fucking leg lock and I'm like I'm not going to tap a power out of this and my fucking leg snap. You can't trade him me like that. You just can't. You'RE GONNA end up with injuries and concussions and everything. Eric not now. Eric Look I'm a Houston Fan. I know I've talked with them a lot, but I'm a huge fan of him. I got to think that him. Fighting Ryan Garcia is a terrible idea. If it was MMA. He would obliterate Ryan Garcia. In boxing come on man. You know what everybody talks about Ryan Garcia speed. And He's going to. He's going to need it when Henry's chasing him around that ring. Or the cage or the cage hawks hold on. He said he's young enough. He's not floyd. Floyd Mayweather is not floyd. That's. That's only willing to to box. He's like Oh, he wanted he said about conor McGregor. Connor knots people out. So why wouldn't they come to boxing well? You're a boxer and he's knocking people has why wouldn't you come to him? It May. You know may make make some modification rules. He's not lifting theory. It's not coming. You know what I'm saying. Ryan Garcia said. Brian Garcia's young. He's not old bike poured. He has time. He's not GONNA learn. And listened to my dear Adam. You're you're interrupting. Sorry, listen you coach, even wrestling. This is what I'm talking about. We'll have Adam Hunter coach him how to hunt in wrestling. And I'll teach Harry had a box. Let's go. Baby Henry knows how to box. He's an amazing boxer, but it's an, but when the guys only doing boxing his entire life, and he's a product you these undefeated and ranked number. Three in the world is going to make Henry look bad. and. You know that and Henry so good. What did you need to do that? Is the money. I mean. The money, but I have to get the money. Sango. With check it out but Henry like me like a lot of Rustler's I like a lot of minorities. grew up watching boxing. There was no enemy. Yeah I grew up watching boxing and WWF so there wasn't May so Henry's always love boxing matter of fact when Harry when the Olympics. The plan was for him to go to into boxing. Win Olympic boxing gold medal in two thousand twelve, and he did it for three years, and then there's a point. There's a point system that you have to be able to qualify to. Maybe to even compete at the Olympic trials in boxing. He wasn't. He was doing motivational speaking. He was doing a lot of traveling at the time, and he didn't get those required points, and and he kind of pulled back from he came back into wrestling, but he's always loved boxing so He's always wanted to be a boxer even before. and He, his one of his idols is Oscar de la Hoya. so the Leonid order another golden boy so I mean that's this is not just him saying. Oh, I want money like. It's it's not about that he he's. He's looking to conquer something that has never been conquered, and that is to go from triple C. Two C. Four. Out, man I'M GONNA. Tell you right now. You are on a roll. No I'm serious man. Drank I'm all drinking. Go as you should, I'm said you're a roll and you got. You got some of the Badass motherfuckers out there. I mean and so. Nobody can front on you on that. You've got some of the baddest mother out and the fact that got Henry who is a character to me. He's a but I love that shit. And backing up that means. When you see somebody talk, Shit, or act a certain way back it up every time. You can't say nothing if you got him on that track he'd been on attracts goes after boxing and beat his mother. fucker dead. Is exactly what you just said Henry Eric. Said about that because I was like you know what I said Henry loss before you're like. Yeah, he lost. He lost everything. He started from zero and to start from zero to come back to where he is. Almost impressive than a guy who has never looked pretty amazing, you know. would. That's what everybody asks. What change. What changed with Henry? 'cause you will never seen Olympic. I've tried to get Olympic gold medalist. I've tried to get Olympic gold medalist to come into play. They won't do it. Nobody wants to a top of the mountain and gold slide all the way back down and start at zero nobody and when they do. A lot of them encounter. Adversity early and then they start thinking well shit. Wait a minute. This is ruining my legacy. It's not worth it. I'm a winner. They can't handle I'm a winner I'm an Olympic gold medal. I'm a legend. I just lost two in a row an MA. And now not a winner no more. They can't handle that. You will never see we done it. It's been done Olympic gold medals coming in. I lost. They're out there. Awesome. You're awesome wrestlers. Back even back then it was a there wasn't a support in the publicity that it has now but Andrew. Henry is that's why Henry is special He came over and started at zero. What made him different? Is when he lost because he thought he was special until he lost and when he lost, he got that chip on her shoulder, and when he got on that. When he got a chip on his shoulder, he didn't sleep for two years. He didn't see for two years against Dmitri. John he always had nightmares about about about losing to DJ so. when he got that when he got dj off his back. It was. You saw. That is went triple C. was more Oso the loss. Would actually helping. The loss with a chip on his shoulder. That was like now. It's time that's when I came aboard. T know Garin Brazil. We had one of the best teams down in Brazil yeah. Everybody minutes are big little now Anderson. Junior though Santos I didn't have all go on, but do those guys were on team? No guarantee that was. My first team. So I kind of learned. I was thrown to the wolves when. Why threw myself to the wolves? Now is John Jones Ducking Color Kosta. you know what? I'm not sure I follow cost. When you talk about somebody that Decade Talk Shit, and back it up. Paulo cost is going to be the face of the UFC because. This dude looks like a Greek. He looks like Ricky Martin Hits like Mike Tyson, and he he talks back like Sunan and. In any backs it up and he can back it up and he doesn't Russell he uses. Uses does that guy? The next. He's going to be the biggest star in in a UFC and I. Don't have to convince him to. To To promote themselves or or to talk, smack or the pick a fight. He does it on his own. Which I love because you Shankill, you brought up Henry. Let me tell you. Henry took about. When did he win a DJ? So we took him. It took him ten years. Ears to get for headed to come out of his shell. I was I mean I, remember one time into the pit bull brothers. This is when he started knocking. People Out is that brought into the pill bugs to train with Patrice payable and his karate coach. Mano Santana and After, he beat Dimitrius, Johnson. He thought that Oh now that I want. People are going to love me again. Because as an Olympic gold medalist. You put your rep on the line every time you fight. And and he en- wrestling. You put your raps win line every time you Russell, but in wrestling you're you're fighting eighty eight to ten bucks. A month rotas no time to promote a fight. And the so and you might lose it so competitors. And then when Henry. He never. He never wanted to promote yourself because you don't promote yourself in wrestling and I would try and try to convince trump. We got a big old fighting resumed. I remember he was like I think he wanted to fight me. Over I'm serious and. And, then what happened was he's like in his mind. He thought I'm. I'M GONNA. Beat Dimitrij out here at already lost. He'd never touched him, but then when he beat Dmitry loss to meet your Johnson even more crab was talked about him like the rest went down in one minute. You minutes whatever so he thought well when I beat Dmitri's jobs. Everybody's GonNa. Love me a piece of Mantra Dimitrios. And nobody's hey loved him any so used to being loved and they're rusting community because. He was. A hero, the rest of the community. And No, you. Go to Russian seminar and having yelling adults, they bow down to them. They bend the knee. or he was the only Olympic gold medalist in two thousand eight. He saved the the country getting the that metal, because nobody had a mental interesting pin. Being loved. Ones tell you him. Beating mighty mouse was fucking huge. It was it was huge like even when you saw the difference press afterwards like Oh shit because people thought mighty house couldn't be. For a while. Would you agree Adam late for me? Crazy was like so for him to beat him. I was like Oh. Shit is in into mix. We've got a special to close the show and I know you've got to leave like five minutes Shang. Tango, don't you dare go Chango? We. Have the mccorkell comedy hour. So mcgahn. Our Okay! mccorkell minute wherever you. Show you better come out with something. Good all right. Okay. Out Adam Shell. You guys. I yeoman I'm saying. Keep staying on that fucking in mentality. That's shit man, good luck with everything I hope he does go into boxing. Love the Watson that said you guys be saved amount of Anki saying thanks JEN. Go thank you all right. Sean, take it away. Alright first off, I want to start with a little bit of a funny story. I thought it was fun anyway. So. I bought a bought an escalade. Because I'm rich. I'm the only person in the world under job. But. Escalate and I was. Driving through there's really happened. I go to go to a car wash like below. Behind me, follow them away. So I go to pull the car wash wrote my window to pay for it. I swear to God out of nowhere on the song on the like. escalades radio the song writing. Cody comes on like just out of nowhere like riding dirty comes on, and the guy starts laughing like in car washing I was like doing it to be funny. But I did I didn't even have. Dawn. To write dirty on. I thought it was ironic that here I am with a cop behind me. Pull over the car wash with a vehicle full of drugs so. Anyway, it was like ironic on several levels. The really happened. It was weird, so except for the drug. kind of no so. I this whole thing. Man has really been a drought craziness phobic thing you know coronavirus staying on broken back up. You know everything's kind of getting boring. And US's role again to degree you know and I saw the British shop. did a comedy show. In Denver with this friend Bryan Callen do I love Cowan, but they were requiring like a stream. They were Kinda like. Every other. Extreme health conscious to know. They gotta be. On top of everything to make sure people are healthy, and so they went so far as comedy show. They even did bright skin cameras make sure that no one had C. T. or anything like that you know. News West for shop has seen Brady damage whatsoever. The bad news was everyone in attendance did. So they were all declared. With brain damage. As. I don't. It's going to be a long hour. Oh speaking of the your see up and running again I was looking at Look at his joke I. Don't want to do I'll do this one ambrous. Ounce arete so. With this a fight island thing there. You know rolling out. They just announced where it's at today, and it's not an island per se, it's actually just got like a little boat around, but over there in Saudi, so your buddy. Henry Pseudo I saw you know he recently tired. Coming back again, but I got the inside scoop. For Marijuana this morning. History. For Lines. That shouted racist, but I L. But no so Area was a you'll get an inside scoop. Henry is still technically working for the FCC. He's under contract. He's GonNa officially be a fight island. When the events happened. They're sitting in a tower, yelling out, boss declaim. Fighter show up. I didn't know his ashes. Girlfriend said. Don't want to get back, is she? Didn't get it. On okay. This is a slide now. Okay so you can edit this out of its to believe that your judgment. Actually on a second note on Air Hassani I. saw the other day he was crying on his twitter, saying if he didn't own how many people followed him? Who are racist and hateful he you know deleted them a long time ago. And I told him I I would like to think like I'm an optimist I'd like to think without all this you know social unrest and her owner virus that millions of people would hate him anyway. I don't think. Central circumstances you know. The last half full kind of guy. Regardless! Adam. Don't you dare? Edit that part out. Took nothing, nothing. Far. This is the part that I'm worried about. especially with the Kirk climate, but Ever since I met John Jones I met him one time. I think you want four something I talked to a few minutes. He always reminded me of somebody and I. Generally figure out who it was like. I was just reminded someone. I knew like an former life or something. And, so my son had a birthday party the other day we were all hanging out. You're my family and. Finally relented reminds me I was like. John Jones me my uncle Tom. Maybe I was too far. Down Ohio. That one that one. This don't added the one about area. That's my piece adults. Nothing's getting. Thomas. Go anything else. I have another shot kit. Remember broke off my head. Got Mad at me. That are coming into best buy to return his DVD's. De! which believe that anyway, because no one bought it. It's funny. It's funny you mentioned about the because I didn't have until after I saw Brennan CIA show of course. Well listen Eric. Keep up at work huge fan of yours and you're doing. Workout their man great work. mccorkell! Riding after everybody right now I'm not doing great work, but you are doing great work Ian. You're the man off fix for having me again. I JUST WANNA. Say thank you for all the great material anytime. Keeps it anymore. Thank you eric. Thank you, Sean. Thank you guys have a great week.

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17: A Winter Garden in Wales

National Trust Podcast

19:53 min | 1 year ago

17: A Winter Garden in Wales

"Uh-huh. You're listening to the national trust podcast. I'm Alan power on the head gardener the national trust. And I'll be taking through some of the trusts most loved gardens. In this episode on the edge of the Snowdonia national park, north Wales for crisp winter stroll around Baden guard. Letter. When you ride a bike towards a property like this, it kind of unfolds and releases itself from the landscape, and really my eyes. Just stuck on this bake rolling mountain range behind us at Baden as your eyes fall from the tops of the mountains down. You can sense. There's something very special nestling in valley below Baden's very very special place, and I've been before but not for a long time. So the gardener in me wants to get in and explore the plants, but the man who grew up surrounded by mountains and Ireland just wants to explore this whole place because it's absolutely magnificent. Just coming through the gate center. Excitement in wonder because the garden changes it changes by the minute not just with the seasons. But under the hand of the gardeners. I've just come down the steps behind me and the kind of houses emerging from behind these ageing conifers. Facade has just covered in sunshine of the moment. In a stunning. It's lovely to stand here and just look at the garden, but actually I can spot front in the distance. I'm going to go over and meet from because she's going to give me a proper tour of the former areas in the grounds are on the house. Affront, how're you doing? This is a cracking spot, isn't it? It's no bad. Is it especially on the day? Like this. You've picked great data. Visit. I mean, you can see exactly why Henry poaching bought this place company when you look at that view. I mean, what a an incredible view to have out of your one hundred. When did Henry Henry put in place in eighteen seventy four. He was an incredible actually was a self made industrialist toward industry less than he had a passion for so many things plants politics are architecture archaeology, and he brought all of that kind of passion. Hey subordinate garden when he came. It was supposed to be a retirement home. But obviously didn't retire. Landscaping this landscape that you can see inference Vienna. So this kind of former section in front of us from this is is this Henry's kind of guys still. Yeah. This is Henry very much Henry poaching creation. I in the cuts have sort of the high Victorian ornate Italianate style with the loans. Former loans in the balustrades and the. We have a round garden Apollo town Square Garden, so very full more. So Henry left this legacy of of garden design, and the changes he made to the house, but did subsequent members of the family then follow in his footsteps and continue developing and collecting plants. Absolutely. I think that's one of the things that's so special and there so unique about is that the family five generations of the family of all had a passion for horticulture. And they've continued that tradition that Henry poaching started here and lay at their own influences on the garden. So Henry poach in developed the Victorian fool garden here. He also re scoped is the hillside rolling down the west of the garden by planting the conifers, so he had an interest in the big landscape that his daughter, Laura McLaren. She was very interested in planting. And in the kind of Wardi in style cottage garden, the foot flowing billowing rose beds and the garden rooms and her son Henry Duncan McLaren. He was the one who actually designed to structure of the terraces here. So he was very into the architecture and the hard landscaping and between Henry Duncan and his mother, Laura they together created these wonderful terraces. It must be amazing here in the height of summer. When you've got the roses in full flower with stairs sent but the winters got an enormous amount offers well front, hasn't it? Oh, absolutely. We have a winter garden here in the top garden design implanted eight years ago, which is a real highlighting inset, but there's so much else to see along the Dell of the gardens. Well, should we going to look that look? That's quite a dramatic change. Isn't it? I always find when you go from former garden into more informative area. There's almost a weight lifted off you because former gardens can be quite intense on. Yeah. There's lots of plants if you to look at lots of architecture, and it's very very different. And then you commit this much, more relaxing. Do you take your breasts? Don't you? As we walked down the hill. And I know it's it's an obvious thing to say the trees field is if they're just getting taller until around tall. Henry poaching was also responsible for some of the wolf Toco sees that you can see in hand that goes. Amazing. Even even in the winter this winter lights, and the the most striking one for me at the moment is the Scots pine in the distance that kind of blue green is really really nice the darker green conifers, and then the Camelias the oil is obviously think of tea plantations when he see Camelias these just these lovely shades of green at the moment. That's the beauty of this place for me is that the contrast. I mean every season you come in. It's a different different view that you see as you say you come in May June. And it's a riot of color. Gardens this full of such variety. They don't make you smile. Stop here. You've been here for six years, and you kind of casually walk past the maze. Ing view, which is almost like a ravine with this stream flowing down through it. It looks absolutely perfect. It looks like something. You'd stumble across it does in nature, doesn't it? It's not might. And I think that's what that's all. I'm failing here is that that sense of Henry potions while having a connection to the wider landscape. I've done an awful lot of walking and climbing and wears over the years and particularly in north west in the lower sections the mountains, you do get these flowing streams in these these natural rockaways addressed with plants, and then you emerge into the mountains from there into the higher levels. And that's what it feels like. But just touched by Gardner, and I really like that. It's it's really nice. There's a big change from gentle trickle that we were talking about the way down you come around the corner, you you emerge from the planting here. This is an old male presumably in the distance. I can spot as like a brazier on the goal just as it up, especially if you know sorry, that's on the guy three winter size. Visit come in the winter you follow the sound of the wolves from the top of the garden all the way down, and it gets lighter and lighter. And then you find yourself what? Hey, hey, we are. We gonna have a look. Up. So this is a really nice thing for visitors to have isn't it kind of chairs hair as Braise your hair? So you can just come down here and sit in a child. Just temps people. Come out. Get yourself on not coal in today in the fresh air and take these beautiful views. Are we now going to head all the way back up hill again or we got from here. You've got ego options you can head back up through the full Mogo. We could head be owns to the far end of the garden and taking some of the peaceful trees trips in winter. You can't but mistake the tree collection from their their absolutely massive. And I'm gonna meet you on aren't fairly shortly. Just to some more. Here is his had gotten John John. Don't be. Put my coffee down shake your hand Jonas. Nice to see you again primes been kind of watching my appetite of our the champion trees in huge trees in the collection here. I'm just looking forward to you giving me a bit of a personal tour of these giants were if there's any space at Baden it. Whereas magic at the moment is down here in the bell with these incredible tree. So yeah, let's have a walk. It becomes immediately apparent doesn't it? When you leave that lovely Georgia will behind everything is big in this part of Baden int. The of giants ready, and it is so dramatic, isn't it it's hard? As that admire of these amazing organisms to to put words to it. You must have quite a good population of champion trees here. Yes. We have over forty actually champion tree means of the tallest in the UK or the whitest girth. So it's forty one garden is a real privilege, and apparently the call is one of the premier places for conifers in Europe for growing with the climate cool summers the soil, so we have perfect conditions for these incredible trees, how old is this is this hundred twenty hundred thirty years old age, you think is a even as a grownup. But as you think you could probably put your arms around half of that. But it would take five or six of us to try and put her arms together and hug that trait. Fake off of this Greek for opposite being planted. And look at this. This is what I was talking about. That's not true when it was planted in Henry poaching that is head gardener family children. It's fantastic. Isn't and looking at the faces. So you said this is the head gardener kneeling down, and he's got a nice bowler hat on and he's jacket and his devotion and not so that's Henry poacher. Wow. So the head gardener's on his knees in that picture, and he's head is just below the top the conifers. So it's like one of the Christmas trees that you'd see these days. And now looking across the stream we look at the base of tree, and you you can travel you can let your eyes travel up the tree. Would you say that's the forty five meters. That's a big tree kind of Nelson column status tree in the garden. Isn't it? Why are you going to take me next? Well, let's head up through the valley. Follow the light. Nights from the low sun is just phenomenal. Isn't it? I can hear that water trickling way in the back on. I looked amazing bridge. Ordinance famous. Lots of things actually, this is something very specialist to stand over that sense of energy that a waterfall gives. You is is phenomenal the sound of the drama of the scenery the water it cascades down through the Dow. We really lucky we might see a child toward salmon jumping because it's all really as far as the salmon can come up from the sea a bit too big elite full them. But sometimes you do see them. Attempting it. I hate to say that rivers making a bit of a rocket. Can we go up until the more? You can't hey yourself Inc. Kick. We've talked to John as we walked around about Henry potions influence on the garden, and there was some fairly important gardeners through it was three generations of family gardened here for the us. Right. Yeah. The three generations of owners of the gone coincided with three generations of head gardener's from the puddle family. So there's a collaboration of these really key knowledgeable owners, but also these fantastic skilled and Artistique and well organized head gardener's. We know pressure new then it's a hard act follow it is. But it that relationship is obviously key. What will you see laid out in front of you? And you look at many other gardens in history. And it's the same thing those gardens that have lasted through kind of changes in fashion and taste. It has been rock solid owner architect or owner Gardner on top three generations of at Baden. It's amazing. I think the vision of the head gardener's they would give all this plot material that came in from the plant hunters, they have the scale to grow those on. They also went to further and started, hyper dicing, for example, the right to Denver's to try and get the best varieties and spent the flowering season. But then they had the full site and the vision and the boldness to flaunt on this enormous scale and fill this whole valley. You know, the biggest way to engines you'll see outside of China growing in the Udal because of their expertise, I'm going to have to go and see those rhododendrons too. Tempting you can't say stuff like that. And expect me to stay here. Regret. See again. Thanks a million for showing your amazing God. Good luck with it. Yeah. Thank you. Just come across the waterfall grades. And suddenly the land rises away from you come up through these winding paths. It's for me. It's a great sense of exploration like being plant onto life trying to find your way around on a forest of inefficient and land. Waiting for Alice in one of the gardeners come down, and she's gonna come on cover the secrets these magnificient, rhododendrons, populate. This place to. Listen how you doing? Really nice to meet you as well. And I believe this is kind of this is an area that you know, quite a bit about. Yeah. That's a very modest answer. Some of these plants round here were collected by on this Wilson in particular hundred hundred ten years ago artists Wilson was in the early twentieth. Century one of the one of the best and most successful planters, many plants minorities rhododendrons. He was particularly interested in those plants like like, Nola Wilson. I in that kind of thing named after him, and these are some original Ernest Wilson plants. That's right. Yeah. And why find amazing about those original introductions is quite visual in my head. So I picture the plant hunters and their team assistance collecting seed from these rhododendrons, and they're growing in front of us. It gives me go spinners. It really does. Your collection, here arson. You've said you had some of the wild source cici's. So they'd be the species the pure rhododendrons. Yeah. And then I've been led to understand that the puzzles as gardeners when those feces had grown flower, they hybridize so that crossed two different plants together. Yeah. In in some respects, they were trying to get something different perhaps one plant might of being particularly hardy, but not such a nice flower, whereas enough of plant had a fabulous flower. What wasn't particularly hard? Therefore, they were cross together to try and combine the best features of each plant. When you start getting up close and personal roadies, the leaf size is different the distribution of leaves, the leave PTO is different. This is a stunning one those. Yeah. Absolutely. When it soon flower under send-off, this really into it always amuses me say people walking under there was that smell things to look up. Unfortunately, the flowers is such a big plant flowers are above their head. They don't always see them. Alison, thank you so much for that. That's been really interesting to look at the roadways. It's been really nice to explore the garden for while on my own. I've I've come really to explore one of the gardens private spaces. It's the families Mosa Liam this area, and you kind of enter it. And you you want to be quiet. You want to be polite? You want to be respectful? Things are more open, and you're much more aware of people exploring the garden Baden's zigzagging across the grass powerful and cross the graph apotheosis. And they're all approaching this particular part of the garden would a sense of kind of intrigue and respect I suppose because they're about to meet the creators apartment as well. But what I love I just love seeing people exploring the place enjoying the garden because that's what's Henry Poten would have originally intended. Come rise up close to the front, and as these lovely oak doors, kind of Niddle panels that you can see through and you can see the bust of the people. Conc-? No, elizabeth. Henry poaching in front of me of walk the garden at bullets day. And I've I've met these people through the plants and through the planting design that they've done to see their names and their busts laid out in front of me kind of connects you to the people behind the place it really does. And it's a very important place Baden into very special place to stand and visit and experience. Thank you for listening. This episode of the national trust podcast. Join us in two weeks time when will be going for walk with a pack of mischievous homes. Don't forget to subscribe to the series and do give a rating and review on apple podcasts. Four to a next adventure? And I do hope you join me. Until then from the Allen power goodbye.

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Alex Cora, Bad Day

The Kirk Minihane Show

2:39:36 hr | 7 months ago

Alex Cora, Bad Day

"Forget when it was. I wrote a book about Patton General Roswell About On my own day both About fifteen ten fifteen years ago and they talked to one point about when they were in the room at the guy how everybody changed just intimidating and how it didn't matter who was running the meeting. Whatever he was the guy and I felt that way yesterday? Lunch about Mike. I just felt like it was sort of. We were in his war on this is Baloney. What do you mean there's a Lotta Baloney? I talked plenty. I talked to visit dizzy. Yeah it's kind of like you know. I mean I think he was. He was emboldened by his performance during the April rain interview. I don't understand either. You didn't speak. What do you mean I mean? I thought you had a good performance being serious. No you weren't. You've made a comment at lunch today to assume he was kidding as well jump right in for your second question was is firing the apron interviewing. That's what I'm saying jumped into the second question. Usually waits a little bit lets you plow the ground. And then he goes in he he had a little bit of confidence. Yeah a much mike she does interviews. But that's we we let him we let him do. It's fine. It's no big deal but it's funny. It's funny to watch him during those things because he's just you don't know what to say. I was perfectly fine just terrible performance. Yesterday why disagree terrible. You send the text the bill I always do now. I know I have no thank you me though. For what for paying for lunch and giving you a ride home I say saying to you I I assume you every time I should just give me the reimburse you only we. It's not that complicated. I'm happy to pay back like all right. Is that big a deal really Jesus you. Oh you bought lecturers plenty times. I realize I thought it was sort of a show by the. You're going to get reimbursed for that lunch just no I don't think we I. I'm not sure on the handbook weekend. Reimburse for that kind of I'll check it out. I'm not a big deal. Seems like it is actually came nowhere. Jesus Mike Richer check and I never will so you know the pizza had no chance though was crying fear I will say I think I might have an attack. Might be the better order of all of US disagree I rate stakes out. uh-huh tremendous tremendous not a fan of his meal. I know shut up Steve where to fuck with a Klein your bitching. Oh he took us to that place bitching about the lunch. Steve seems like fucking Yapping away. Waiter in those lunches fucking Kirkman shut up and let me talk. We didn't talk enough. That's a bad combination. I just go by myself. That's my favorite lunch launch with. Anybody complain that I didn't go too much time. Either Steve there either. I'm a bill. They're either have a lunch by myself. Could be a Goddamn Emma. What's different about radio these days? I'm like Oh shut the fuck up. Those words denies you. Would you spoke the most at that lunch yesterday. That yet if you if you do the slice of the now obviously I'm not I'm not a pie chart but Steve is the world. According to Steve Robinson Yeah I thought it was my role to talk especially since I'm handling handling sales in the relationship with Barstool End Okay fine I also. Steve seems like the kind of guy like if we weren't there to to rat him out he would be like. Can I talk to your manager. Kind of guy often that he was not happy about the fucking sandwiches was not happy about the breads. That is the least likely outcome firm. I'm never going to talk to a manager. I've never seen anything like twice and both times you've bitched about some of these order. When I went last time he can play with chicken salad? And then there's the payments read Robinson rocking took. It didn't bother me mine was good yesterday. Bothered me why I lost my appetite when I saw just like plain Bob Boneless skinless chicken breast training healthy. What do you WanNa battle lettuce roses very nice lunch yesterday? which was very good? I had no problem with his sandwich. One piece of bread. Why didn't you say something I did? I said what the fuck to the waiter he said. Why did I get the avocado toast or sandwich right? Then you said no big deal. Yeah because because you're playing I'm just going to. I'm just going to eat it. And then how can you complain after that your fault. I'm allowed to complain fucking America Complain Right now. I'll complain complain to my wife about it last night. Seven hours later. I told her these meals to go down. She came home and she said how was your day and I said awful awful half a sandwich now ruined your day. Yes so thinking about it the entire day you want a bad meal can ruin your day disagree with that. Wouldn't kill the place to Gabriel basket of bread. You know well it's a very healthy place at this. Yes Mike do the best he could. He found the phone flat. Bread is Stephen Knight's defense. Exquisite Steve is like Mike's mom too. I mean not obviously not level but he sees a listen. Mike you can get. Here's the healthiest thing you can get. Here's Akron I was read one item. So that's what I always nervous said. It wasn't going to be on the on the fucking menu I have either. I didn't know what am I supposed to do. Just aiming you can't read the menu and we're supposed to just not help them at all. Oh Yeah you can't read the menu all know. Just guess. Yeah that's not. Got Something for me. Wear the other night when you go out with somebody row so What would you order Well I mean well Albo usually talk some shit that I would like but also like if I've been to a place before I kind of get the same thing over and over being busy Miami different restaurants. Now Life's Siemian believable. Know what to do anyway. So wh- Duguay more lunch important Bumps only moods because the Boston Red Sox might mortal enemy the Boston Globe. They're reeling still have spinning their fuck. They don't know what the fuck is going on. They I mean they fired Alex Cora. Last night they mutually parted ways. Last Fina Yankee Stadium Suck. I heard what happened. Is Alex Cora showed up today gang. I think I'm going to take. Yeah let's get out of here. No no I understand though. I just can't do it to you guys. I have to leave. I understand you want me to stay. I understand you're making a hard push but ought half I. Would you guys mind if I just get the hell out. You mind if I just you know what I would like seven million bucks but hey don't worry about the needs it's on me. It's Peter Gammons tweeted yesterday. He's just going to go to Puerto Rico and raised his daughter Hamill. Cause any problems at all. I'm sure that's exactly what's going to happen. Appearance Tweet Peter Gammons standpoint mentions of Puerto Rico in both of their statements. Were very conspicuous. What do you mean why are they going out of their way to mention his charitable efforts? I mean the guy I just got fired for cheating and they're all but he's great. He's wider that right and by the way there's no in the in the red sox statement absolutely no contrition on their part no role in anything that you're seeing right here. The Fall Guy Alexandre couldn't believe they're going to take all the you know they a press conference today at one o'clock which I try and go to and obviously if I'm not there. No one is going to ask John Henry. Read the question. What role do you have this out? Assume not yet. What role do you have? Sam Kennedy my ways. I my friends in the organization. I actually don't I don't I mean corrupt. I'm really good friends with some of the close co workers. They're really and I'll do whatever it takes again in house. I'll do whatever it takes six in the clubs all the time raping boys but I don't You know that that Congress that that moment will never happen. This is the very rich get to. Do you know the billionaires world. They'd just get to see you later fuck off the bring somebody else in. That's legit I mean you know you've had now to I'm cheating scandals back to back with the Red Sox And the same ownership president. Nothing is going to happen nothing. It's it's you know it's a lot more cheating eating scandals if you go into their office no question no question about it and former and current members but I do wonder now is our is the media media in Boston in in America is probably yes. Are they satisfied with chorus scalp. Is that good enough. I don't know I mean we'll find out what major league baseball always in the red sox going to get punished at all. It's good enough for the media. I don't know if it'll be good enough for baseball because well punish trying to think. Yeah I guess it will be because I mean. They're going to lose twenty seventeen they're gonNA lose draft picks and they're gonNA get fined but I mean we'll you know famously. For example George Steinbrenner was suspended bended twice as an owner suspended once for illegally contributing to Nixon campaign and then he was suspended again for basically hiring a goon to find. Don't shit about Dave Winfield team. So that's Steinbrenner doing that if this goes if if you can say well this goes back to. When core was on the Astros? They're not gonna now say well John. Henry must've or John Henry Henry with John. Henry knew this was going on. I understand but I I just don't know if baseball will look at it that way but I'm saying let's just say Manfred has a cold. Henry was aware of it. Thought it was kind of funny. Needed never big deal. I mean the more you read about it. It's like I mean this is the worst you know in the biggest fucking embarrassment on earth right now anywhere is is that fucking fan boy did slid out of his mom's Canal Jerry Karabelas who was just like I mean what the fuck is going after Drellich. I thought he was. I thought he was is kidding. Friendly is just like I know crop as a professional wrestler. It's like an angle. I assume that had to be has to be right I because I saw him say like go after other teams you fuck. Yeah like is he serious. He's got I don't know I don't I mean he always says he up now or no dealing no not ooh maybe call Jemaah rhyming like an hour. We'll call them sleeping. I did hear him. Once Brag about going to the gym at nine. AM So again. We can't confirm his away so I listened yesterday just a quick aside Put the put the put the pin and I for second. I listened yesterday to the big picture or never was Monday. Breakdown the Oscar. Nominations Sion's 'cause I wanted to see what they were going to say about Oscar so white and they were they were not they really sanding surf show frayed. Now you can hear the fear in their voice especially our friend Amanda Dobbins But So they were there on the west coast I guess and so they did the podcasts at seven. Am and there was one of those things they kept talking about. How early it was? I find find that so somebody who's been doing this earlier than that forever. Shut the your fucking adult. Shut up early though you wake up. And they're like oh I know my. I'm uh I'm really angry about beyond saying not getting nominated. I've had no coffee at seven. Am Yuli Shut. Just shut the fuck up. That's I fucking aggravating. Also on a podcast. When in that won't be up for another hour so nobody cares where I'm tired you? You're listening to the fucking podcast. Secondly I saw one thousand nine hundred nineteen last night. Oh It is the best war movie I've ever seen. Wow really is the best war movie I've ever seen so you're saying obviously should win. Best Picture Win Best Picture that you invest director. The kid was not that the there are two D- near the other plotter no no so At least two British soldiers were all one basic in the Simon from their general enroll to the communication's been cut down. They have to go like nine miles intel another Troop that Germany's actually was aware of their attacks tax trying to get him to stop attacking because they're going to lose sixteen hundred British soldiers Polka. So he's to kids around. The mission is basically that the two of them trying to get there. And it's fucking incredible. It's an incredible for the kid On how to put this without giving away a spoiler the one of the two kids who's in the movie longer than the other guy. I should should be nominated and win an Oscar. He was fucking unbelievable. The last thing the movie knocks you out. It's fucking great. Great great one one of the all ten best movies. I've seen the last ten twenty years. Wows I was knocked out. This is the one that was shot in one. Take rain the two takes I think so. Yeah they I wonder how they were going to do it. So there's a part where because the reason why because half the movie takes a little bit takes part at night so I was like how are they gonNa do this in one shot and turn the night they have a trick of sort of doing it. A my only issue with the film is It's all men well. And there's not enough diversity who should have had more black soldiers from seventeen. Glad you not like that rat Stephen in king all we'll get to him later. Oh you WANNA talk. Ironically a little book burning party ahead in my house last night. Thank God I have thirty Stephen King books in my library and yes I have a library. I burn them all last night. Well you only have to burn ten percent of them. That's all he writes. That's true good point at myself a little barbecue. It's almost like Stephen King. wrote those lines himself. The shawshank Redemption Gone Yup gone through not a lot of diversity the shining no diversity. Chinese gone Yep Uh Misery Bunk Hilton cast you down with the sodomites. Yes using his own lines against But I you know I know I was I. It's funny Mike Allen movie was over and it was gonNA talk about. That was might be able to watch that. I like it. I don't know yeah probably not. Then it's so great you might be could you watch on TV and get the. Maybe if it's if it's not very dialogue heavy it's not going to. There's a lot of dialogue is actually not a lot of anything. Yeah I would like it. There's but there are moments where you're like you're gonna you almost want to throw up a give it a chance. It's it's before that I would say for me. Well calling things. War Movies are weird so you know if a movie is set like you guys probably never saw the great escape now right. So it's Steve. We remember you saw once upon a time in Hollywood yes. The role of the tarrant The caps character didn't get McQueen. Got In. It's it's basically the skate movie over to escape. Movie takes place in woolmer too but it's not really warm if that makes sense right. They're in a something like that. I would like so I would call that. You should watch it. Watch the great escape. I would call that a war movie. It's probably my favorite war movie. Count that or the thin red line. I'd say movies like that. I'm trying to think of the Great War movie I think. Saving Prior Rizal over. We were soldiers. No I would not say we were soldiers. Really great can years to a platoon would definitely be on the list post apocalypse. Now would probably be my favorite war movie okay until nineteen seventeen. Eighteen seventeen is a master Chris. Because I haven't heard I lost her bus- I and I love feeling that way because you never. You never think you're going to feel the way with the movie you never think is one of my favorite movies ever. I go see it again right now. I've never heard this kind of Oscar buzzer. I haven't heard that it's up there with the greats do I do. I wish that that Colin Firth was played instead by say a Rupaul. Should I think that would be. I mean obviously Saliba pretending that would be everything. Yeah yeah do I think Ashley Graham should play one of the soldiers lives. Oh yes I prefer Eliza. They should remake with Liz. Oh and Ashley Graham in the girl from this is us. Yes yes and rupaul indicating that will be. I think it'd be fun. Yeah or or You know I don't know maybe the most McCarthy you can play the bad Guy German ghostbusters crowd. You wouldn't mind that either about what they're remaking ghostbusters again. Like a a prequel or a sequel is a sequel. It's looks like it's how Ramos's granddaughter has. We saw the trailer before star. Wars was looks long to be women and again. No no no no but she's like a teenager by Paul Rudd is the science teacher for her or something it entered. It feels like a lot of work to me. Those busters. I'm like I don't think everyone we said No. Thanks to the last remake I can we. Can we cope with original idea. Nineteen th once upon a time in Hollywood to original idea. Did will knives is out. Did great nine hundred seventeen is doing great like there is still. I understand value a franchise but there's still an appetite for fucking original movies. Even the remakes should be. It shouldn't be movie. Classic move watches. Should be. That's exactly right right the first time to have a good idea though. Maybe there's technology that didn't work at the time right that's a good idea the DA. But they didn't. Yeah yes I think. That's the main point of Stephen King. Critique is that art doesn't need to be focused around diversity whose critique Stephen King I think we need to say the name anymore yeah do phony but the horror the horror author for Bangor Maine. I mean that famous conservative Stephen King. WHO's only been tweeting about? Try to the point where I end. Followed him seeing is one of my three or four favorite writers. What AB- sorry was one of three or four? Favorite writers is one of the greatest writers of all time. Now we write some shit books. We read some great books And yesterday you believe you can use. I'll say everyone's always like. Oh you've aluminium afraid to read this tweet Stephen Sheree mostly. I'm scrolling to find it somewhere appropriate coming from Stephen Anyway at the to the lunch yesterday before lease Letourneau. You don't fucking toasted waiters. Jesus so you want a Sandwich Steve. You WanNa two pieces of bread yes. It's a fucking sandwich. You got three pieces of Brevard. You say that's one piece too many. Would you been okay with that but okay with that yeah. I understand one piece of bread and the sandwiches weird. What do they call that? Open face like that. My Dad used to get that roast beef. It's a fork in the knife on a like it so it's not a central. Why are we? Why do they have price? Tag of the Dodge Store Stephen King tweets I would never consider diversity matters of art only quality. It seems to me that to do otherwise would be wrong. I mean that. What is good luck to you? Mr Kennedy's rough luck. I hope you're hope a publishing companies already got British on the wrong side of history. So he's he's on the wrong torme so he actually Oh. It's a blue checkmark blizzard when I saw so when he was so he's basically saying is that we should just judge on quality. Yes yeah yeah I mean what a stupid. The wars literally awards based on merit right like remake ghostbusters. In a way that's funny and entertaining rather than just meets diversity quotas. Yeah like don't put Leslie the Jones in that you mean. Yeah Oh okay. What's your face? SACRISTON WIG or most McCarthy era who else was in that one it was the only three nine happened my particular when Kate McKinnon. Oh Oh god God I mean what what are we doing. It was good. I think it was inspirational playworks. That's the same guy did bridesmaids right Paul Figo again which is a great movie. The prices really funny movie Ver- finance. It's important I get the record ghostbusters. Not so much but I mean the comments are like you know. Yeah so Roxanne. Grey says as a fan this is painful to read from you cry. It implies that diversity and quality cannot be synonymous they are not separate things. Saudi is of course at all suggest that well. That's what I wanted to bring. I should've brought that up more with a April rain yesterday but Lake Pebble Y. I know but the idea that how many times is Decapa Rio uh-huh or Scorsese got snubbed. You see Adam Sandler this year. I thought he definitely should have one need not even nominated so you see that all the time maybe the academy is just full of people that get things wrong. Oh of course. They are being so focused on row. Save a bad record on race. I mean if you look at the total number of nomination at black people have gotten. It's Scher. It's it's not right I mean it just. It just doesn't add up but they're doing an invisible I think tr- ticked her off. I mean it doesn't happen in the second you the idea like I said to her there are ninety one year olds voting. roscoe's right right. I mean that's not the and she's like what would you know. How dare you say that? Well that's going to be how it works and by the way be more concerned about you know real issues of race in this country. But that's that's okay. Stephen King is telling the truth I mean that's that's how it should be judged and I think by and large it's still you know I shouldn't say it's poets Judge Right now but I do think that you know going forward. It almost hurts the cause if you treat lesser work like it's equal well. He's he's also that makes sense. I mean they're acting like it's a racist he's also saying that if there is a black person that does a better acting job than not thinking eating. I'd rather give it to the White Guy just saying I'm not thinking about race in any way shape or form look if next year which is a bad thing now. If next year the five five best performances by an actor are by Denzel. Washington Laurence Fishburne Michael Jordan Jamie Fox and whoever then Anthony Mackie than great. Now the fuck do I prefer tastic. I would hope they will be nominated. I mean those are all really good actors and I understand I do wonder I guess worth you know now talking about or whatever if these people care about does a seventy five year old person watching movie like Trying to think of a movie that's recently come. They may not be able to get their heads around. Even the movie like Moonlight which one best pictures harder for them to watch that then the watch say nineteen seventeen. Maybe it could be. I guess. You're your shot Shaq redemption. Or you know I have no idea. Yeah you know but but I also think it's hard for somebody who's seventy five years old or eight years old to watch once upon a time in Hollywood. Maybe well the thing is if if there's a lot of old people in the academy then they're going to vote for Corny your shit that I might not green picture. That's how it works has nothing to do with race necessarily -sarily some for some people might think the majority of Hollywood no race that soft. cornball bullshit yeah I mean. Green Book is a nice little movie movie. But it's one best picture it's brought up like Black Panther and Crazy Rich Asians yesterday. And it's like that's I. I'm not saying that those movies are nominated because because of the race of the people. It's because once a comic book movie and One's accommodate. Those never get nominated. You know parasite is a foreign language. Film that Steve Pretended to see yesterday. I yeah no kidding there's Scott six combinations now would not have happened ten years ago. That's a good thing I don't care about the Oscars that much anyway. Just nineteen seventeen is awesome. You should go see all right and get the globe credit. I mean boy. Did they rip the Red Sox ownership and stuff too. I mean you know I have to laugh. Henry's head on a skewer. You're had my battles with Chad Finley media critic of the Boston Globe over the years. He so this Guy Craig Cockatiel I think we actually had the old show once about some story basically said John Henry Kennedy You know or or happy whatever they can slash payroll used to be on the globe story that fucks over core. We're in his fault. Then Chad Finn writes the actually writes this globe gets accused of doing the SOX's bidding in. It's not true. We missed his hearse. Tweet tweet come on. I mean like you can't play that card. The same guy who pays your salary pays the Red Sox get out of thin air and it's not even that an his thing is I'm going back. We criticised ever Alex Cora. And we've said things gooky bets. Yeah that's not what we're talking about. We're talking to the real issues the on field shit where he'll stuff like. Where's the today questioning John? Henry won't be there today. Won't be there tomorrow. When is something to say you know what if say surely or whoever Joan knock these idiot globe op ED writers said I have I have a thing that says John? Henry should sell the Boston Red Sox for the good of the franchise. Do you think that would make the newspaper team. But you're saying well somebody Jason wrote somebody wrote it and said here. It is submitted it was well written made good points. You know. We'll get read like a motherfucker. They would say it wouldn't even get to John John Henry. That's the thing it wouldn't even whoever mcgrory Magori wasn't busy with you know Be northeasterner whatever he would he would look at that and say I mean like you understand. This can never happen. That can never have the thing. Is that it Chad. If we chat fan said was said by even someone that he I where it's like we can perceive them to be biased. Because they have the ownership rights happened with you and all that type of ship but he is not literally owned by the Boston. Red Sox bit yes. I mean. They're figuratively oh by the red sox. Yeah but you're right. They're actually unaware literally owned by the owner of the Boston. Red Sox right and I don't I actually don't if I ever got a chance to talk to John Henry. I've spoken to him once. It was a bizarre conversation. If ever got to talk to him again I would say why would you have them write stuff like that like why not. It'd be fun. It would be good for the globe and make you look much better. We'll suicide it wasn't Gbh. They John Henry is very open. Chris I don't think I can. I don't think I can honestly stomach the AM I gonNA UTAH. He texted me yesterday. You might become you might become seriously ill listening to this. So trendy trainee went back on. I'm already getting nauseous. Jimmy Carter yesterday. And they're they're talking about Shaughnessy see in the picture of courage. He is what a superstar he is in Boston. Media Okay experiment. He wrote a column where he emailed John Henry and asked him for comment and John Henry responded bonded with some snarky comments about Dan and I saw that yes. I wouldn't be surprised if he never manages again a major league baseball career Ruina. This is on hold on. We think it was. This is a career ruin. Refer Alex Cora I'm GonNa say she's right about that gutsy take. I'm going to say yes. It is is hold up the white power. I think it's a great career. Move for a for outscore involved in the beach cheating scandal and history. It exactly become a distraction for your organization. I don't know I'd say taxes career. She's right so far so good. I wouldn't be surprised if he never manages again in Major League Baseball. You know this is a career runar. This is only a sub theme and it would have been a major thing because I love the story so much. We're not for this cheating scandal. Dan Shaughnessy one of the Great. You know what I think is Marjorie playing with herself. She three fingers deep accurate. Getting yeah I mean Marjorie hit that spot. Or what's what again one of the great I think those are the sweat is is. He's Brady Love Love. You know tongue deepen their students say then what the fuck is going on. We're time scandal. Yeah please tell me. You're talking about Dan. Shaughnessy one of the I think those survey we used to work with Sean over. You mentioned Dan Shaughnessy enough their seats while he wished I mean Guo he wrote a column just just so you know. You're you're a cop saying I was fired. which is the least gutsy thing to write either is there? I mean he was always in November. It was you know I understand percent of course of course you had the guts to write that yes you write it why set. It just didn't get posted K.. Mark was not happy with corrobos jumped in two. The three days ago was everyone knew causing a fire. We've taken gossip. Shaughnessy had said in John. Henry should be suspended. Should sell the team. What did he know? No one's writing that and that that would even take guts but I mean mean ideally right. Alex Cora should be fired but when did when did it trying to see right. That wanted to come out Monday. I believe after already saying everybody knew he was gone. It was after the Astros wasn't even. Yeah it was after the should have been announced I think yeah I think you're right. It was because he didn't he might have written it Sunday and it was published Monday but either way whenever he wrote the Hammer. There's get dry. It was after everything. It's the least. Gutsy thing yeah I think even Dan tell you that I didn't take any guts. I'm more facet in the reaction. It's Spa uh-huh isolate that Marjorie. Laugh going forward I mean Marjorie is like I mean. That's she's like the woman that fucking stern calls on the movie. UVI frigging naughty. She's sitting on the speaker. The Fuck we all know John Henry. I don't think I think it's pretty clear. There's not a warm relationship between employer and employee and Henry for the most part is kept it to himself until now. I think it's more. I don't have it in front of me being like I watch this documentary years ago. It's called tickled. These people. Were like going to tickle conventions she being tied down and being tackled by somebody right would kill me not over the moon. Not a big tick. I would be very Disturbed by that Steve. I think we're GONNA professional tickle torture. Yeah that's fine. Yes refund but I don't understand the Shaughnessy thing I always a fucking asshole. And secondly he does this thing we actually. He's own John. Henry's is boss like it's not that it's why so brace combative relationship. He's Got Smith admitted. Wait until you see the witty rapport between John Henry and Shaughnessy. Oh I bred. Go ahead I haven't read it. Read dancer screening was going on essentially the talked about this too. It was that there was some mandate from the principal owner John. Henry that You cut the payroll. That's why I'm blooms. Rodin cut the payroll cut the payroll under the competitive balanced tax. Paid the past couple of your hands of millions of cuts in social Dan Shaughnessy emails the Star Sports writer for John. Henry's he's newspaper sends an email hinder guys. This is strong. AC- I'm working on a column which suggest there's no planet disclose the mandate to get under the two hundred and eight million luxury tax threshold before you went into the September twenty seventh press conference. It felt like John as in Henry just came out with it spontaneously. Now that is is that it is the charge for a high bloom. Is this accurate. So we're response briefly and then just before midnight. John Henry writes to his employees. Try the Shaughnessy. You might actually ended. I don't plan what I'm going to say before answering media questions in a live media event but this focus on Tony goes on to say. That's not the thing I just met with my staff and said you have to be competitive. He goes on. You seem to think high and was brought introduced payroll and this is an interesting nods back way. He's he's just Marjorie squeals with delight she. Can you believe that the what all I don't even listening Warringah hiring and that like imagine if you took a reporter asked him the question if something if we were talking about barstool nowadays Erica said. Hey did this happen and she said Oh. My God Steve Gorn scoring video police so so I just listened to me. She's God Marjorie credit though. She's still active. It seems like a point at her age in advance. We we get her number and talk to her. She's she might be wild. She talked to US excited yet. Does the mentioned the Shaughnessy who I mean. He's a handsome guy but Jesus so it is more a more more in more of that. They're just fawning over him and praising his courage and it works for them John. Henry does anyone of a safer job job at the globe than Dan. Shaughnessy now because because you cannot if they fire them for something right spiel being critical also also hoping he he pays hands a smart guy. He knows there's certain things you can't write of course. He's a dangerous. Well that's what I'm the investigate the pedophile scandal to look into Dombrowski air. Mike just random people work the organization. I mean why would I'm just saying stuff like that brought. He goes on to praise. Shaughnessy for writing this. Saying he knows. His job's on the line. Every time he tries to John Henry question right about the red sox which was should be a bigger problem. If you're a media critic in the city shouldn't be a bigger problem that the I guess there's the impression that the axe hanging over Sean writes about the corporate the the press conference today if I get in somehow and asked John Re tough question in legitimate tough question. No one else would ask him. They'll spend six minutes like Mario be squealing and triennial be praising that'll happen if they ever mentioned it it'll be even Novi some jerk. They wanted to some jerk. Snuck into the RED SOX press conference. I'm I'm getting in there. Well I shouldn't say that I will do whatever I can again. I'll get carried out with tanks. Sorry even though. The owner of the Red Sox owns his paper. Let's a scientist checkup. Yup and could quite frankly stated his wife because technically Linda's the managing editor of the Boston Globe. And say you know what I am. Tired of. This isn't fair removing on. Aw sorry often what is it. Nineteen fifty two over again. pancakes movie theater. Oh it's giving always Thursday rewrite and that he says job Bob teams account called escalator. Better time I- shoes escalator elevator. Later I got stuck on elevator. Julian High School. That's when Sam waterstones kissed me for the first time. Now that's Waterston understand okay. Often mispronounce Penny Candy. Thank you for coming in Shirley. Mommy slapped me when I make skid mark when I'm sick and it was in the side effect of dementia and one thing I don't mean like this is Dan Shaughnessy love fest. Confused Literally masturbating. It was at the mere mention of his name. Told me touch myself. Wrong with seeing the sign their paychecks would say I got to lighten up right because I could be should be John Henry Love Fest. How often does it other than Jerry? Louis Louis Fuck you jim you fucking asshole. I mean really gang. Let's let's lighten up on Shaughnessy. We haven't kissed John Henry all right Shaughnessy he's dried drip left. Let's start sucking John. Henry's Dick Okay. I put his spit to go around. Training Shaft Marjorie left not I worked the right right right. So let's go office. How often does an owner other than Jerry? Jones Dallas going to radically. I love this John. Henry Dan Shaughnessy removed to the Patriots. Jaw Doc what was played. He answered a question. Oh now I see what you're doing Mr Henry Dan. Shaughnessy asked a question. You answered and didn't fire him for doing his job. I met Michelangelo Their port once in nineteen eighty one the gentleman. My Dad had a beard. I think women should be nominated for Oscars I liked it but I want you to white foul up. They're they're making a speech. Fever King to the PH Stephen All right those books. Who's the Jeffrey Epstein Love? What the fuck is starting to understand why she gets paid half as much as Jim? Well how maybe half well. Jim Probably John Henry think enough credit. He asked him when I would ask them. Would they let them right. and OP ED shitting John Henry. Our Linda Bed saying why is a woman running a newspaper with no experience in the newspaper. Business that her husband or man either one. Why is that happening? Did you hear him catch catch themselves though saying well. She's the technically the managing director. Oh she she's she's does that mean that. Seems like it might be a little bit of a sexist comment or husband has all the money. Yeah Yeah I know that. But I'm saying she's the strong report a very bright woman to be fair. My interaction with very very nice but she wouldn't own to it'd be the managing editor of the Boston Globe. If John Henry had married somebody else bombing ifs and buts come on. That's true. Whatever no she get worked hard finish if God if about what How does the rest of that candies and nuts? Yeah what a wonderful Christmas. Every day would be Christmas. Yes my aunt had balls. She'd be my uncle and I don't think that's appropriate appropriate disagree with your aunt. Had Balls. She'd be my uncle. She would still be uncle. Yes okay I mean just like and keep in mind again My listeners out there my friends out there in the Kirkman Han universe You're in the state of Massachusetts. You paid paid for that segment you just listened to aid Marjorie Egan's orgasms from people like you ask your the other thing is I was looking at W. H. is finances because Dave Brown got it to us. The Red Sox writer from New Hampshire that lawyer a patriots. We got this. Yeah he was like Oh. They don't get that much money for taxpayers. Shouldn't it's. It's not a great argument. The angry that they get taxpayer money but they also they get underwriting every contribution there is at charitable deductions. So John Henry might even be donating. WG might even be taking a huge tax write off. I mean every every good rich liberal in the state is donating their and getting a tax. Write off to support that I was GONNA say. What is the motivation to kiss John? Henry's ass this also liberal runs a globe. I mean the globe is busy. Do of the cone the station. Essentially anything's ever outscore yesterday. was what a wonderful guy is. He's great he's he's wonderful. This is devastating. He's beloved after. Last year's runner love for outscored Boston. Lingering died off also. I WANNA fuck about the red sox either. That's the other thing were when this guy was cheating whereas this moral guy who said I can't be in the same room is Donald Trump. That's true damn right. Yeah Damn Right now. I feel like that might be the the pre cast filling in somewhere else next week. I'm trying I'm working on it. We have Mike on Jerry. Show just for comedy. Yeah and I I mean this the stories we're talking about TV stars Would you say is the biggest TV star in history. We'll go around the room. Honestly I'm having also discussion here in the history of the medium who's the biggest television star in cronkite is in the discussion. I'd say he's in the Mount Rushmore for sure Lower Jerry Seinfeld Alan alda Jerry Seinfeld Lucille Ball Young Jackie gleason Carroll O'Connor for you know you know Oh Carson Carson for twenty five years ago. The answer probably would have been bill cosby. Yes honestly all take a step aside. Now there's a new star in town. I saw him last night on Fox. Twenty five you are. What you're doing is appealing to those kids? Out there with those podcasts. Why sometimes I watch Fox Fox twenty five and I think this is too hip for MAG? I can't get to yeah. It's a little too young for me. Yeah it's sort of like college age and I could see getting the car with Kate and she listens to music mold. She's dead Kevin Lamentowicz. Satisfy Your Friends Watch Fox twenty-five together and they squeal Kevin and butch in the whole crew. I'm like this just isn't for me. It's like my grandparents watching American bandstand just discussed hip. My mom my mom. Saying if you're GONNA play Van Halen you play that quiet. I said mom no problem. Can I tell you a story about a someone from Fox. Twenty five issue. Of course the name I just said Kevin. I'm not familiar with Kevin Four meteorologist. Just some Po. Yes I do know that. This is a low Boston's to Andrew. I'm sure he's a nice guy and to be fair. I did hear the story secondhand. But Oh good my buddy buddy of mine Works at a local batting cage and This Kevin Arnovitz brought his son there. Okay and The guy's a it'll be like twenty five minutes all the cages are full. And don't tell me this. Do you recognize me who I am. But he goes no he goes. I'm Kevin Lamentowicz from Fox thirty five. Oh all right. It'll be like twenty five or you're the guy tells us a warmbier step right up in two thousand sixteen was is the thing that would work. I have an APP on my phone. That does your job other guy who's just a regular working with your son get out of the fuck against this guy tells the weather that can't be true is what I've heard. I've heard it enough times that I believe in. Oh my God what an asshole. Jesus with a dummy Th over to butch well my friend which turns Guy Very honestly so he's a local Isa you know. He's a dummy dummy but I I really like him and he's a he's been doing this forever and I worked with them quite quite a bit of the over the years He decided to take a step in and see what's going on in world podcast. It's going on with the kids and this was on. The ten o'clock is that right. I just thought tweeted out. Okay so for the you know those sixty eight year olds. It's we're taking one last piss before they go to bed watching evening. You fell asleep while watching Fox took over after this is us last night wait. NCIS whatever you got a whole new world is going on and let me tell you something. Those numbers are spiking. Butch stearns this morning caught up with an old friend. A familiar voice on the Boston. Sports scene who we haven't heard from in a while. I don't think a bitter at all the bitter what are you talking. Okay for many of US Gerry. Callahan was a big part of our daily routines for more than two decades. And now now he's back. You can find him in this past week here. Is the legacy club on Canal Street right across from the Garden Jerry and his crew launched the brand new Gerry Callahan. PODCAST and it debuted abused with a bang. The very gun just in case you know this is the we can sell self it. Oh really yes. That's exciting maybe tells us how he got thrown at a radio. Yeah Good Question Gerry Callahan. PODCAST and it debuted with a bang. The very first day that we put on an episode. It was number one on apple's top shows and Tuesday mornings hot topic. But Apple's top does the morning show it was up there with the honeymooners sooners in science. I can't imagine anyone being in any more trouble ineligible the clubhouse attendant jerry getting any more top shows Sanford and son the Jerry County. The Club Crafts Weiner. It's funny like I don't know if that's a consultant calling in the favor or but like yes that literally will not bring a single person to subscribe to the podcast. We're up against I love Lucy and Valencia. Show this me Fox twenty five you what are you doing well. That's important the fuck are they doing. ooh old style thinking you're doing a new project. Call your friend in the TV business. Get a little package runs. The difference between Jerry was essentially a cuddly little. You know everyone likes them. You're not dangerous. I would never do that with me ever ever but it never happened. The president angry bitch talking to their Langley pitch come one come. Oh aw that's funny. That is funny stuff like that makes me laugh. I love him. I mean that sounds like like an old daily show bit. Well it doesn't really you like this is really a real news story Jerry. Kelly went to South Carolina to talk to Jerry. Kelly and WHO's zooming up the charts. What you you gotTA figure? At that time of night there may be you know a couple of hundred thousand people watching Fox twenty five K.. And if you can if if you can delete thirty if you can teach like ten percent of them to us and they could be listening to juries podcast and those are some good numbers right there. Well I don't know but yeah stuff like that makes me laugh I. I don't know why I'm just tickled by stuff like that. No colony in there Well as crow. He said he tweeted out that he was He was blocked out. They didn't start filming until he right. Paul Really Yeah. He might have had a different work appointment to get to I listened. There's a Lotta Konate talk in there and giving his opinions and sport oconee and like I could tell Jerry is getting no use for that was there any any more of the the what's the strategist. I don't think so. Damn it's a shame I don't think so strategy text me on Friday and thanked me for whatever whatever when the show or last week. Thank you for calling the show us me alone. That's what you're supposed to just leave me. Leave me alone Lima I don't want to you know I did the once I've wanted to do it again. Mike can do it if do onto that is. I'll do it would you steve. Probably not he would love supposedly the time. Plus you basically done it for years. Anyway yeah I mean it's it's more talented conservative. -servative timing thing. Why would I drive into legacy place? If he wants to come here and tape something when all sound good though he's talking with more more Ganic field goal is what I like is a is a broadcaster but with like is a connoisseur of clothing. Is Milton's the the store for men and I think we can make the announcement now. Steve Qiming honor. No I'm not sure what announcement referring to Milne's give me with us for the entire. Oh yes she's from announced a piece of bread yesterday announcement we did get a piece of broad milnes one. The big winter clearance sale is going on now. I think they're still closed off. After Mike and Steve Tore the place apart yesterday. I got some Florida does. She's every single suit. Sport Cope Laser and Tuxedo. Oh in the store is on sale. And I'll tell you this. I'll be wearing a Milton's Tuxedo in the next month. Right Steve Yes yes yes you're talking about kind of now I don't think I do For a announcement. Oh you know going to be wearing a Tuxedo for that announcement. That's big news. I think I've ever seen you in a Tuxedo. Whoever Siemian Tuxedo you'll think you've ever seen taxi them on the telephone? Hello Thirteen hours Tuxedo. That's right. We had a hot dog eating contest. Tuxedo trying to think. Yeah I've ever seen Michael Tuck. I don't think I have Tuxedo. foxwoods I should golf with a Tuxedo on it. We play in that next year by the way There's GonNa be some news about that. Actually where the the company that sponsored. The tournament might be shifting their philanthropic endeavors. Oh boy I mean if you're not playing you're next prostate cancer cured apparently so we're not playing good sure I it's DVD. Not The guy. Liked US yes. He does the issue they might be doing. A different into charitable event playing golf. Yeah that's too bad. I followed that last year. All right were there. We Love Mills all as most popular brands. Michael Kors Calvin Klein rough Iran wren all on sale great deals pedley style. Dress shirts ties and shoes. We had a long lunch along with bill yesterday for millions and he said how great them in the fans are loyal they are said he got ebbs Cyber Specific Oregon from California. Yesterday for Gary Cooper out there. Listen solicits right Gary Cooper links believable But you know Minna. I just know that your you know your loyalty is paid off. 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I mean this is like this is like Mike Wallace talking to somebody. You know like like the head head of a tobacco company. Sweating Martin Short sketch and SNL. Why shots wedding? It was it was you. Did you listen to this. Answer Steve I did. We convince the Bernard's was not we have the call and everything yes very rarely get a layer of sweat. Oh Greg is I. He's always been very nice to me. I'll probably see him at the Super Bowl. Greg I mean let's find a treadmill buddy You know I mean we can one eighty might have to change the shows. They sponsor. Dr God guys. Let's it's almost like that's gimmick diet or something it doesn't work she's We've got JIM IN BOSTON. Go ahead Jimmy and I wanted to talk to the big Boy Grad Last week you mentioned something about Bella check was available. Whatever league sources? I just just curious like where would you heard that from cause what allows me. But they're gonna you basically just made that up there right. I just made it up like that's that's what I do. You just sit there and think about things like what can I say like. Obviously I heard it sure I just made up that I play football. Asia Asia came in second in hot gun. Talk Right I'm GonNa make that a top gun yet defense. Obviously I heard it when and you heard it just made it up so just in case. You don't just education joining us today. So Bell Greg said last week the ballot check was potentially actually in play for teams which was clearly ally so holy made it up and throw it out there so if if it happened by some miracle could say happened if it didn't go away so obviously all the coaches were hired. Bella check was not one of them. He didn't go anywhere that was never going to interview with the Browns I believe. He said he's like well. Belgium threatened to quit the train to the browns. Yeah I just made it up. Just you did greg because I guess it actually gets worse let could you just make it up and then yeah sure fall along with you know some other talk show host. Go ahead of them I heard it as usual when I come in here. I tell you what I'm hearing from. NFL sources. I said I've heard it from two different NFL people. I didn't say what's going to happen. I said Yeah. That's the word around. Don't be surprised if bell check. Belgium could be available. And what do you think happened where we go just a in your dog or for that. Let's look exactly what's going on. Let me hear this again. Don't be surprised of Belgium. Belgium could be available. And what do you think happened with that just they just you write about Russia Jimmy Stewart. Somebody else on the show. They could have played that. Drop right there like you know. Never fucking ends. Yeah I just made it up. He did by the way like I. My guess is Phil Gramm as. It's the sports show in Boston. They probably know the darts full show where they care. It's kind of funny. What does it mean it's fucking sports? Radio show Dr Purports to be journalists when I do it bothers him immensely. Fell them as. We're having fun with it but I mean you know he's making it up well someone I forget who said this on twitter yesterday but someone pointed out that the telltale sign of lying just going repeating the question right. Yeah yeah no I made it up. Yeah no I'm a liar. Talk show host. tithing was bill. Just let out there. So that kraft knows if you mess around. There's always a chance I walk out the door. So what life raft. That was my last night voice of clarity. The situation you know no you're fucked. That's the only Maserati by the way. Greg Jim Browley Stephen King but the that's that's a great answer though I was told what are you. What Parson damage? I'm good with people. Tell me things. That's I'm smarter. Why do what everyone says? That's what you do what you do people tell you things that you made it up or Greg. So what are you saying. Yeah I just made it up. Wait a modest. We can move on with the Momma Gary. When she found out she must have been the horrified? I don't know Madison. I don't know that you would go for the complete I think. At some point we have to have Marjorie in. Mike's mom have a conversation. Yeah right I think think so I will say you know pooh-poohed Jim Brownie because I think he was talking over a little bit which might make it a little sloppy. I think we got was that you heard a a little sloppy. That's right. I think it was a clear couple of seconds of health so I think she's just pulls up to Lawrence say it's Martin right no different for the for the people that don't know. Oh you guys are Kirk and Callahan at a famous drop of Marjorie. Having your guess I thought you guys made that free dinar years. I thought that was me. Have that or no no no I. I don't understand what that came from. Where trends talking like this? I could take my friend Chris. Curtis why the Nice fifteen minute phone conversation with yesterday of considering the lead this morning really. Yeah here he was. Sam Kennedy Kennedy and John Henry Skating on as we had a we had a nice talk. He fell on the sword a little bit. Well good good for us so when you beg for forgiveness sometimes sometimes Benevolent Gobble give it to you. For speaking of Sam Kennedy Hugh I Shaughnessy was talking about him. I'm with guys on ninety eight five yesterday. Thought the clip that might be of interest to you Sure I will say this. Sam Kennedy in the middle of this remember. How it Dave Dombrowski Kennedy? He's start again. Fuck fucking God damn this is like this is like seventh grade. I fucking came. I'm in my underwear. Listen to the dance. I- Marge I have fucking I've come dripping down my leg us. Let it dry in your pants. Nobody hate the crush these. I hate the crusty stomach. That's backs the bad boy. Rebecca very bad boy and keep talking like my involved. Oh Shit I think I'm dry. I think I'm thinking I'm fresh out here day and again again I will say this Sam Kennedy in the middle of this remember. How sick Dave Dombrowski dissed Sam Kennedy? He has nothing to do with baseball. There's nothing baseball and Sam wanted in on baseball will now sam might be saved by that because when these punish punishments come out from eighteen when it said this will include general managers and managers knowing what was going on in their organization. Sam's a little on the outside of that now because Dave wouldn't let him in day was still there imagine what he might actually start to be right. I was GONNA say that's not a bad point. I mean but I don't believe the same candidate no-one kneeling and by the way. So what the president of the team. So you're feeling me like Shahi was already Freddie setting up the narrative to me but team's defenses the game just to fucking pushover. I couldn't even said that yesterday is that he is going to be saved by. I'm business side right not to you. Go on and talk like trades. which is you know but yeah I mean? Dan could be right about that all right. What else get Marty? Walsh weighed in on the John Henry Situation and I thought that was kind of interesting. He started out strong. Celebrities actually started out semi strong with this and then he lost his way Mary Very. MLB has come down real hard on the aspirin like the red sox might get even stronger. Punishment Alex Cora as punishment should fans. And you as a fan field feel about two thousand eighteen house. We look back in the old on real reforms that Mr Mayor Kirkman the hand bar sports on your public airwaves in your city yesterday Werman actually squirted on the I mean. Is this something that you want your kids listening. You know I Professor shows little common decency but You know sometimes I enjoy that as well madurese good friend. Yes good good really important that John Henry the owner of the Red Sox come out and talk about this and and what happened and you think it's obviously major league. Baseball will come down with it and I know Boston then we we love. The Red Sox lost the Red Sox and and certainly something that's really important and and Alex Cora's I've had the chance to get good enough but you know you talked about great triple outscored Puerto Rico. They went there so I just thought it was interesting that he heaps praise on core and puts it at John Henry seat because you have to remember the globe basically endorsed anybody. Anybody but Marty Walsh. When he ran true elected the first thing? Keep in mind that you know the Mardi washed as the next question the world series of Red Sox one she could not look at his tainted. All it's like I mean. Are we really doing this. I I I saw bill Right this in the La Times. I mean I'm not GonNa dig deep into this will take your calls in a moment but like that world series is completely bogus it's completely bogus and should be vacated yes and then and then you think Pete Rose was gambling on his own team stadium. Suck on it Ogle break. I suck on wonderful guy. I'm sure he's a very nice guy. Actually says he's a very nice Mason's guy I mean but yes remember like baseball players by larger stupid food. So I mean you know he's another player's probably dummy. Now you could get away with it and they think they can hide. You're talking about a vapid empty dummy. Jason Varitek is very attack. Couldn't fucking other white guys. I mean they're gonNA 'cause he projects this image of Captain Disa- dumb. I hope they do that and I I. I want this organization just burned down to the ground is wonderful wonderful. Wonderful to watch though Jerry talked about this podcast yesterday the lengths and Whitson which Sam Candy to bring us down than that Dig Boston story specifically me and Jerry. I mean he went out of his way to say basically. We're trying to ruin these two people so I am trying to ruin Sam. Kennedy's life like He. He has understand this. I am sure he knows this. So I'm never gonNA stop is reading your taxes or did he turn remind yesterday you it. Does he ever read them. Can you see that read receipts on some all of them. Yeah very good only C. D.. Read Them I wondered if you block the number delivered not read it says. Let's give a call. We can get the mom before the press conference today also there anymore. This is very inside baseball here. Is there any more boring. A Guy Than Jason like if you want to excite the fan base is Jason Jason. Varitek the guy that'll make the sixty sixty three year olds really happy. Yeah Attic Marjorie. Yeah it's not that it's it's not give up in the margin in the middle of that because I realized I was saying you talked to which it sounds a little something like this the your call has been forwarded to an answer today though. It's almost as if he sees the call because it's a it's a ring you know we need to do. We really need to start doing. Honestly I'm I'm being serious about this and I'm just being trying to be morally appropriate here Given the Alexkor stuff given the Apple Watch stuff given the Dombrowski stuff given all the stuff. I think it's time we start calling advertisers of the Boston Red Socks and the grocery stores in Shaw's is one of them around the country. Are you comfortable advertising with this company and unethical organization just makes me uncomfortable. was there so shaw's the big advertiser of the Red Sox right An Star Mark. Yeah we should call we call right now. The is there an advertiser. Doing who does that. Oh this could be a fun exercise because I think we need to do that don't you. Yes it's just not appropriate. Just it's just not right. We don't do what we call a cashier incision. I am I wrong. I mean you know I give surely credit. She didn't like what you and I were doing. she did. I think I have to do that just for the people you might have to. I think it would be an experiment in pointing hypocrisy no. No God wouldn't want to do that. I'm just trying to. I want the person listening to the baseball game just to feel safe and the advertisers just I feel comfortable. That's all not to mention the pedophile. Stuff well no also that. Yeah Yeah I get behind that. So it's necessary. Yeah we do. We just want to call a random. Shah's I can't find their mark McCall random show on the amateur hour supermarkets show. Do you think this is do they yesterday. Really Kazue days in a row raced. I'm just curious you know we could call. We call their support center in West Bridgewater. Let's call them nine o'clock I think that's nine o'clock on. The windy isn't quite work. The same the Shaw's manager arose in Mecca. This problem they hang out produce at the the grocery store login doesn't work thank you for calling. Shaw's supermarkets touchtone phone access. Actually now phone number now. My injuring one. The area code. What's complicating their life? Why remain on the line tire? I remain calm. What the hell you're before? And the way they explained dialing the phone number one the area code at Hi I'm wondering. Is there somebody that can speak to advertising thank you I hope you produce a great day. Turn turn you glad I call. It's kind of jokes. Honestly Squeeze Joe J.. I could have that baby saying Checkout in let me know K. that's not. Hey I'm working message come. WHO's this? Dan Dan something. I'm trying to think who would know this call is made number will just talked to a salesperson though furnishes the numbers at vibe really put some work in this is not easy but truly Bob on this we call him and see if he may be. Oh yes that makes it a lot coordinator handle it. That'd be great pair within the take uh-huh I would do that. Why not we're friends now? We've always been friends in an odd way. Shula said nineteen seventy. It was sort of an odd couple relationship. Yeah Works Phone Steve. Those is are we calling undoing number and I want to talk to one hundred people. Thank you for calling entercom Boston. The home of Sports Radio uh-huh W E number with a person answers three three injury. You know your convention attention to me. Wait for assistance other radiation giving music. Think tension really building civil. That's Uber calling ration- of what time is it exactly. Nine o'clock nine. Oh one yeah. I'm telling you they might not be until maybe nine fifteen nine thirty's ladies. How was that possible runs? Like she's sitting at her desk trying to finish your coffee before she talked to the producer furnishes or something. I guess I I would like just to know the couple of advertisers for the Red Sox. I know Shaw's star market. Anybody else. was always a car company. Remember which one herb chambers. There's no harm chambers. That's true can't fuck in the Mercedes next next car can't advertise. The fucking Red Sox also bought before I left. What the hell is that probably? This is what they're playing on dummy the day they were playing. UH-HUH I get up. I mean you know just takes work. No call her chambers please Cohen Cohen Lynnfield. That's Ri- brought my my. I fought three of them there. Okay and if they'RE GONNA lose my business just so you know wow hundreds of thousands of dollars you might have to let them know that. I'm going to the aid advertised advertise with the red sox during my whole thing. Secondly Katina advertised. I just want to let them know disappointing that you're chambers and welcome to her Chambers Cadillac phone group one on in Lynnfield for sales to for service tells Ryu Parts told the moment Good Morning thank you calling her chamber. Cadillac is Karen. How many direct to call somebody? I can talk to an advertising. Well that's not normally done here. They have sixty locations. Do the main number I can speak to some of that. Can Talk To. You would just call Her Chambers no shame. I didn't finish obsolete herb chambers Mercedes and Somerville. Okay thank you Karen. Okay all right bye bye Mercedes you later. She's got a real door. Let me finish asshole. I don't know her but I'm just saying they can lose my business. I you know unless advertise us. Then they'll be right blaming. Jump Right back on here and they also sponsor radio DOT COM stupid. Their salespeople are I this is her chambers in welcome to mercedes-benz of Boston press one for sales for service. Yeah busy rewind. Good morning thanks citizens. The Boston director call. Somebody can talk to an advertising. The big gay that would be the corporate office. I can give you the telephone number. That'd be a help. The H thank you one seven. She Twenty six eight three three. Three eight triple three correct. I have a Mercedes Day. Thank you bye-bye Calm Steve. I'd like to know what have a Mercedes Day means means just to smooth day you know okay triple three three three three version of you that I would despouy compelling their companies this is Loren Loren. Somebody can talk to an advertising our marketing Tony CLARICA's Unfortunately I don't don't have Tony in the office but I can offer voicemail if you like. That'd be great. Thank you can hold on one moment. I I'm leaving home Tom. Jesus well we got there. It's difficult are you having a newfound respect for the worked Bob put in never. I've never not respect hardware. I've never not been in some off at the length Switzer which this man we'd go to ruin. Somebody's life he. He would've left voicemail. Oh of course emails voicemail cameras comfortable. You know ever come with the pedophilia in the in the in the clubhouse and the cheating that's up to them but at least we've laid down the groundwork for what people can if he were wondering how. Tony Call Tomorrow. Raised about the Ritz Hotel. The Flood Tony's voicemail. But I'm telling view then absolutely do what do they everyone. I will say if you WANNA show at the Wilbur. You'd better call the gambling message. You know you want to Wasco. That's my wanNA show. Every day you want thirty minutes pouting that's up to you. Guys I can do. One does say that my fucking head. I'm just saying here. We have a chance to ruin the Red Sox organization and by the way now I feel like okay by them and moving them out of the Oscar for like twenty grand at this point I like it. I mean their value has plummeted. Forgot that part of the plant part of the planet like twenty years from now. The Wu socks more valuable franchise Mercedes my way right up there. You know still my question what that means but we'll drive Mercedes okay. I think we're getting somewhere. I think. So too. This some real headway. Karen really let us on the right path. I think I think so I think so. I wish we got Steve. o Yeah well you you ask for some of the after hours and it was just bad here that I mean is it. Is it good. It's just there's there's they bring in some woman from the athletic when she basically says the writing is on the on the wall. The writing was on the wall. The writing was on the walls. You just repeated phenomenal phenomenal job covering the story as if you saw that tweet out. Oh yesterday. Well they're very brave. Was it their animals of the day or something really during this whole thing that you know what were they. What were the animals of the day? They put animals on like the faces of people asking. I'm less that's what the local news is. Now it's like these are videos. Were trending on Sunday. Yes I understand. That's ridiculous kissed. But I mean they were putting like a dog on the face of like like Jerry Remy or something. Oh yeah national dress up your pet day. Yes not that I I don't really I never I don't have it so I'd never watched the yes network. But they they have you know they have the Michael Kay show. They have the Yankee all griffey that not to be to be fair. If there was a yes network steinbrenner was suspended. They would not be covering I but I'm just saying as far as to write. They obviously bad program. Yes yes it's it's it's 'cause they know knows you know and Henry. They're not stupid. They know most fans are going to pay for Nessen for the BRUINS and the red sox right so they're paid for any given the infomercial in in any my wife. Hey the people that's a great question. I mean like you're right. They spent money dump show. Yeah you've seen this picture yet of this pug wearing antlers. I didn't see how well you might change your mind or cute but I I mean I don't really understand you're right though. They spend money on that show taller. They just ran infomercials era though mailing it in and they think we'll watch the red sox Bruins have you said to me you. You're running Nessin Kirkman. But you can't criticize the Red Sox law it's all right. We're in the show. Old Red Sox Bruins Games all day and do documentaries on trump's the body or whatever the fuck it gets weird your it's very in or you know I'd say hey you know Glenn whatever or whoever went on your show but you can even and do puff pieces. That would be entertained. Yeah like have Dale Keefe follow. They might occasionally criticized the rest so they wouldn't do that. But I mean any other show you do like the like the Yankees Have fucking divorcees and Jason Varitek in for interviews. Of course you can do instead. They're trying to do a show. That's young and hip and it has upbeat music and there's lots of graphics and everything would be totally overwhelming for your average red sox. Fewer older person meetings idea what's young and hip is horrified troubling. Yes not even remotely no kid would watch it does is not come down. You know what I'm saying. Yes you might say give it a listen enjoy not going to is big business. No Gulf podcast mornings very busy. Tell me young and hip four put Uh No who's not certainly was not again. No no no no not yet my friends in no laying up podcast their competitor. Maybe on on there in the near future. Contact my friends over there. Just saying that's big news job. Everyone does a good job. Hope I wish everyone well no podcasting Robo Rawal out there together. That's true. Not all of us have the huge. Jerry's Barstool oh yeah. Will You Fox twenty five. The Murdoch family pumping pumping propaganda out there but to Jerry's he's point you've seen the amount that barstool. Oh I saw that yesterday twitter. Holy Shit some good work by an HP. I didn't realize it was that infrequent. I'll be honest. I thought it was less frequent than that. We've been tweeted three times. I forgot about those days when you were hired and then two times when we asked for it right. We've never I put up without us. No I've never I've never been scrolling through my twitter Barstool tweeted about I've been. I've been declined as many times as I've been accepted. Oh I've been. I've been been ignored more time. This Leeann Tweeden Terrib- this new podcasts. At they're pumping out is being. You know like crazy which again I don't even. I hope it's great. ooh I don't care about that. You know to be fair. I've said don't promote us. So they promote us. We deal photos well spaghetti. You asked me to pull a little bit of Esi Robinson yesterday today. Oh so what is this. This is just me doing the punditry thing on nod. Rt It's the same show on what Thom Hartmann RT Russell Russell today sorry not tall right. Som- Thong let's look at our power grid red. Let's look at what for example. The wind energy tax credits have done to our power grids. You've got the liberals on the left. They saying hey. We did wind power wind power. It's the you know the Salvation Shen for our energy. Whoa but when you look at what the of these tackle or effective these tax credits? They are damaging our power grids because we have to go through hell and high water just to integrate wind power endorsed him. He's smart like it doesn't mean smart grid. Power is not available running this guy over over so incredibly perverse Denmark is doing you know they. They're generating a little less than twenty percent of their electricity with wind. Power drumming and they are building out a fleet of five million electric vehicles. Where you charge your car night and you buy the electricity? This is all it also affects your new Denmark. Denmark Winberg wind turbines. I gotta say Stephen State Passionate on this issue. This was not phony. St This why here now still. I'm driving to Centerville. The other day pointed out a windmill to me. That wasn't moving saw. I saw some big win for you. Yeah well I saw the president four present. DC tweeted to us is a two minute clip of you crying. I didn't see that city sent it to you. How did you not see email with you? must've wanted to see if we can find that. This is scary. What they've done here is so? Give me a little back story here. This is when you left for me. Yes this is my last time filling in right. I assume you weren't allowed to say where you were going. No sick everything else in my world. Nobody can say my name. Nobody can say my name. Nobody it's unbelievable like I said it. They fired me shortly. We're making Tali right. Yeah they'll think. Go ahead Steve. You know what they've done here is amazing and I'm will always be grateful to To Howie and especially Kathy because they kind of you know they. They plucked me out of obscurity up in Maine and they gave me an opportunity. Go to come down here move down to Boston and build a light a life with my facing. You're not talking to them. They're always be grateful. I think they were in Florida. I'm grateful to the advertisers. Who stuck with us? Who made this possible I'm grateful to have continued to carry the show And that that network is growing you know. There's there's evermore success on the horizon for for the Howie Carr Radio Network. I'm especially grateful to Bob. Maine's he's been one of our big sponsors. I've always enjoyed going out to dinner with Bob Bob and his wife Kathy Chow. Time especially down at mar-a-lago. I'm very grateful for all the swag that Bob has sent me. And Baba you're not. You're not getting the Matthews brothers. sweatshirts back DOC. I'm keeping those who listeners You know you guys have put up with some of my my my nerd. `ISMs my jokes some of my pedantic humor tolerated me when I fill in for. How Armitage funny you? What was your character on the show like what were you? You're not you weren't like this. I'm just Steve. Like what was your thing despite political knowledge boy character so how he was in this. Would you have been granted. Did this This tier fest. How's that really when I did? I did come back in. We did a quick segment together for my going away party but the funniest thing here is we did. We did a sponsored segment ten minutes later with a veterinarian who is taking questions from listeners about prolapsed Amos's dogs is funny skits that was a that was on the air dockery but would you almost cry. Yeah maybe a little emotional national okay. I don't think you're one given to emotion really It's called giving yourself a little bit cover. What do you mean? It's tough to criticize a guy who just cried on radio now. Now but how much has this. Experience meant singer icy at that point a little bit. Yeah the lesson though no I mean yes they have. Would you go on there now. If they actually go one. No not because of Barstool. No I'm saying it'd be a guest or something I think Yeah I mean I would. I mean you wouldn't care. They need you to fill in for. Yeah it'd it'd be groggy kidding me. That'd be awesome. Steve Digging political calls for four hours. He was more than that in the next segment. He has you guess which body parts. The callers are slapping against the phone real shock jock speaking of Shocking Fuck in Elizabeth Warren no handshake last night for Bernie after the bait very cold icy so am I crazy hideously boring debate whenever I tuned in very boring. But I didn't see enough of this on twitter maybe don't follow at people but was it not completely biased biased by CNN. To Question Bernie Sanders. And then just get like Liz worn off. No no they say the entire thing the entire thing has been rigged against Bernie but that that it was the only audio that I thought was interesting was it was like a Saturday night live here. So Senator Sanders senator standards. I do want to be clear here. You're you're saying that you never told Senator Warren that a woman could not win the election to Screw Senator Warren. What did you think when Senator Sanders told told you? A woman could not win the election and including Elizabeth. Warren Elizabeth Orage was staring down in a reluctant and smirking. Because he knows it's such a fucking hatchet job questions that is good L. Joke on now. What does she does answer that or no? No He's saying she ashley she just says. I disagreed but disagreed with what he just said. He didn't say it. And then this is the globe to come out with a story that's like a democratic debate. Bates stokes gender divide by the way. Let's say Bernie Sanders said that does that change in his ability to be prisoners opinions on things I don't know what makes them a sexist. I understand NFL saying you know. Does it change his political beliefs. But also I guess maybe I I mean so dummy never said it's social believe. Yeah dommage made up making get up. And he pointed out. He's like this video of me saying thirty years. You should have said you're lying. You're a frigging liar. I don't get that's that's one of Bernie's weaknesses easy avoids those kind kind of confrontation seat does the same thing with Hillary. He did live with Biden last night. To joke is trying to be like. I'd just be like your. Why are you why? There's nothing in my history would suggest anything else you you've been proven to be a liar in the past. I haven't so why lying about this and then you're losing the polls is pathetic. Why are you doing this? I do the snippy fighting behind the scenes by the Bernie people because now now they're saying that the The Pocahontas stuff is fair. Play so you're GONNA see the same left wingers who said it was racist to make fun of her for claiming to be native American. Come out and use that against her in the primaries. It'll be fun and keep in mind the Boston Globe. They they used that they Elizabeth Warren used them like you wouldn't believe remember that whole story and the DNA test. Oh yeah no they were. They were her personal campaign snark they I mean they still are again. There's still there's still if they need to get a good story out. They'll go right to the Boston Globe. Actually any Linski. Now I think is writing for the Washington Post. She's Mesa I still. They'll still use her. We came out with us which I couldn't believe and she was. You know answering that was we said you really do you know that your mouthpiece and she didn't even understand it didn't even I mean what do you mean no dummy. They're all dummies. But then so what are they go because I asked yesterday why amy. Klobuchar was on there and not tell C. or Yang thing and it was because she's doing better in the polls but people are sending me polls where young and Tulsi are higher than you have a sort of an Tom style the the DNC doesn't include those the DNC the DNC gets to choose which polls go towards their rat terrier they want. But why wouldn't they want Tulsi Yang on there because they don't win Jim. Both of them have positions that are against mainstream Democrat. Thinking I mean it's hard to dispute that there's been a conspiracy against Andrew Yang hangings question. Of course the they'll put up a picture of some other Asian guy on MSNBC when they're showing all the candidates straight yeah they. They'll exclude him from debates. They won't interview interviewing. I mean Dave Chapelle endorsed yesterday that that should be huge news. But if like some state rep in Iowa endorses Joe Biden. That'll be bigger news for MSNBC. Mike endorsed him. No God no mainstream. Don Governor David Big names hugely talented. People agree with that. Yeah you're you're nothing. And he's just GONNA he'll have to you know he'll get nothing in Iowa he'll probably go Iowa New Hampshire and bomb out and then he'll drop out and they'll elect the you know the nominee a seven year old. Ah Gang has a bigger gripe that tolsey though because tolls Chelsea's just a member of the House of Representatives. You not a huge deal. She as she gets a lot of attention because she's an attractive woman. She was Hillary Clinton fucking things. He's a Russian robot helped her gain gang is A. He's an entrepreneur. He's a new kind of candidate he does have this crazy online following i. I don't know what the ignored. It's hard in the sense that his only promotion comes from south true self not home on twitter and we'd love to have him on but don't I don't get it yeah. We reached out recently. No yeah within the last couple of weeks try again. See I mean you know we can. We can make happen the New Hampshire gang supporter. Yeah Mike Talk what your favorite Yang position. What position does he hold that you agree with the most as a candidate? I not so much correct political I just I like the a his answer to shut the fuck up eh. The thousand dollars a month. I don't know that that's possible but I like that. Instead of looking at political position of injury most agree with. Let me let me talk. I like that robots taking over for drivers and saying we have to stop the technology he saying. We have to come up with another solution and and I liked how he handled the same thing. I mean it's a reasonable answer to snobs can mock it all you want. I will transcribe by somebody today please. I was like to read those so he writes that what what about what I said. Is that ridiculous. You said your support for president because you wait handled the situation. I said that's why I like. Yeah I don't really do. Look you guys know that. Oh look too deep into the political aspect of your dorm and his policies to be fair. He is a one issue candidate on the universal basic income. And Mike did Robots. Yeah yes. He's into the robots and cars issue. That's not what I said. I said robots Oh bats taking over the self-driving right. Yeah what time was it there. We know what time it was last night and I were a lot of people supported support me. I didn't see a lot of support online a lot of people. I did not see a lot of support you. We're looking at the right people. I didn't see nearly enough criticism and shit. There wasn't there was criticism criticism. People understood what I meant. I saw plenty of criticism. I didn't see a lot of support I saw people that were actually felt. Bad for man is a young men merely asked a question what we'll get that clip. Say what time zone are. They never ridiculous. They were in the Western time zone. It's not I said are they are they. Are they in the western times in times. Asking not knowing that is is is stupid. The craziest thing though was when you indignantly asked well how far away is Miami that was. I know it isn't that was. That was a strange. No because it was in response to I know what you miss with is a weird. It was not the right play. You're correct in distances. It is the same as say Miami in Boston right but those are still cities. I understand. You didn't say it's sixteen hundred miles. East of La was younger miles away. That would suggest that you thought that North Dakota in isn't it suggests that you're my wrong. This is your little mileage crap. Didn't make any goddamn sense. See this is what we're Mike. Always says Steve just so confident even though he knows he's wrong just say a loss. Did you say long on anything. Definitely WanNa oh now. I wasn't wrong I asked. There's no bad ideas and brainstorming. spitballing North Dakota's next. What's the California's didn't he just did not in fact I told you where it was I was correct? Are you calling Jacob Jacob Asshole. I don't think I don't think he's at any. I don't thinks funny fires. Somebody looked up Jacob yesterday Somebody sent me. They know. People Know Jacob Biz Areso real deal American hero. Oh you coward. What's your last stained pal? I don't know how well he wouldn't tell us. I'm sure to be fair. I think we use less cagey than all the women West. Virginia though. At least we didn't get to the by. Was the the big till you wrong. I'll tell you what the big takeaway well. What's that and I was very surprised I got this all day? I got text about it. I got I got tweets people. We'll swear they know why. You gotTA call about a porcupine up your oh why. But it doesn't make any sense to me why people say they can just spoof Sam. Kennedy's number like I got A. I got a thousand emails and and directly. Somebody did it to me somebody who knows me. Yeah there's people said is if they know a name your contacts but I was like they wouldn't know if anybody knows both of your numbers they could have spoofed you right then I was. He would have to be who knows both numbers that would do that. Not a lot of I mean. Yeah if it was Jerry what are you calling me for. Oh I guess that makes sense. Yeah but a lot of work seem seems but they ever been shy of work before you know that's true. Why won't be plenty of doing that though? What's the upside of that? I don't know I didn't really care. That's particularly funny but has a great whereas clearly a taped like I was I responding and they were talking so as a tape things things. DC It was. y'All hey hey like they were gonna it's like mundane yelled at the beginning of the show. Yeah which actually did listen to today. It was really really bizarre like she clearly tapes that this is the first time I've listened to a longtime or you think it's taped. I've always thought it was greg just points Oh maybe it just sounds from different. I assume it is the point. You don't have today. IS I. Imagine no no Bradley. I put it on. I didn't even hear Curtis in Fizi was telling some joke. He was very fun. Yes he's telling some joke doc. Alex Kurgan CITGO sign with him. Yeah so all right still signs. Yeah thank you Steve. And then later said You could replace the CITGO sign with a big asterisk. It makes sense you get Danielle was like you know it was. It was a weird cut. It was weird cut man in Nebraska. Funny Story Aurea and there was just this weird. It didn't make any sense. See that's why I think she's being cued by Gregory con conducting an orchestra and then he did the old the thing that you pointed out months and months ago where He goes. So you're telling me that there's a man in Nebraska who remember what the story was. Well I've got a parody song. Oh we do. It's one relates. The Red Sox take my they know might use it years. I'll say that there was no background chair coach. They see a stop over. Move and Bob the camp thing. I've got my eye on this job. Can Dan bath task. Call to Jackie Lynn. The in the name of rape is that right. Okay the job then in a sense. I've got this when I wreck on. Kids gums me. Tom and Doug APP win. Look for Shade Man Oh God fastball array. It's not the state the accident. That's Great Oh et Momma Gary's touchka future producer. Yes that is excellent that it's also a tactic. I think should be done. More is to go after your enemies. Correct I like mocked him and song. Yes voice mocked enough in music right time that that is yet it McCall instant classic a lot. Yes so the title of songs rape based on the song fame to rape. I'm a red sox. It's fame I'm going to leave for. Yeah so it's Rape Red Sox employees. I liked taking some creative liberties. Cy Is he yeah. That's a great song. Oh Wow I would have gone with that earlier if I case Jesus you gotta listen all the way. God is funny though that you know now. This guy was working with couples for twenty years after he'd raped kids allegedly and it's a bigger story than other man is banging garbage cans now in the garbage can. One is being called the biggest story ever right and I understand that you know. I understand why it's a big story. But it's the Stephen Murphy thing is gone right. Didn't even happen happened. Basically do you think that it would be easy to come up with a list of all the red sox employees to what to their front office. Just they're they're the clubhouse awesome. That's good okay. All right why saying they hire one. kid toucher. They probably some other question. I mean not not Russia but I think this looking looking in put it this way. I don't like their background. Checks very solid yeah. I think it's worth yeah. It's a house assault if you're a if you're very thorough. Caring fantasies managed care about the organization. You just want them to hire the right people that's all. Yeah so yeah I would. I would take a look. Do Their due diligence for them and then we send them. We can send them a hopeful note to say. Hey Mike because a sex offender write them back to this one for me. Of course you can't be a sex offender of you never get caught a good attitude clubhouse all the time raping boys and ask them about that or not just Bush got seriously. Why is the media scared of that'd be credit? That's that was the whole interview. So Jerry forty focus sound here but like a play for you WANNA react to that all the time reaping boys and you WanNa say about that no no my pants. People call it'll be a softball or long enough. I'm digging in on this call. corrobos real quick. Would you already wake. Now he's probably working out straubing an iron. So happy NAPPIES mad. That's the thing he's GonNa be dated like going on I I'd say he does not pick up a few in the heat about this is one A.. Do what friends friends I think he would. He can't do that. It'd be very disappointing. He's a geese. I thought he's good about this is looking at his phone. Say No fuck that guy. I'll talk to him. Well I mean again. We're you know assuming this case without knowing but that will be very disappointed you call maybe curt Minahan show. What do I os Yawn? Steve Robinson just. So you know jared. We were talking while the phone's ringing. Seems like you know what he's not going to deal with other at sox stuff you you can come back and listen to the show. I said Bullshit Man. sharecroppers will answer the phone of course I actually I was expecting your call to be honest. What what what is your Evan Drellich? It should be applauded for doing the correct journalistic work. yeah At any other company for sure this Barstool sports where When their scandals you you wrote to defend your team You know your boss Portnoy did the same thing during all those patriot scandals. They're the Patriots for the Patriots. In deflategate were wronged. They actually actually Brady got fucked over the Red Sox right you look at the Red Sox. I really did the walk through the Patriots. And we're not going to have a discussion about the Patriots whether or not all right. Let's just say they did. Let's just say they didn't spy gate. They got fucked over deflate gate dragging your guy. Alex Cora here your buddy who Steve. Paul was weeping over in that pathetic. Video about is anyway Is the suspended for being the first member of section intend to publicly comment. I was on a flight coming home from La here this. Nobody and I mean no one wants to hear first from st pro. Anyone he wants to your second third or fourth from Steve. Was He kidding when that was. That was a character he was doing. No I apologize address for the man's actions but not many. Let's let's let's break like I know but like I I can't I can never understand with you. I'm confused by now you are you are you is this. There's an angle with Drellich. Do you like drought or you. Being understand I liked Drellich. He's an okay guy we We did TV together in Boston. But I'm just saying if you'RE GONNA come after one team come after all the teams and I just find it very interesting her that the only two markets that he ever worked in were the only two teams that were in. This whole scandal became more resources that are sources are gummy expect. That's what I'm saying. So you you team and they're getting fucked rightfully so because they did cheat but only because of Evan Drellich source location. That's all this is. It's not because you're the only I contend that say the Pittsburgh pirates and San Francisco giants are equally guilty. I don't know that three true. I just know that the red SOx were definitely not the only team using video to decode signs in twenty eighteenth. I just tell me. Crops should investigate this. Yeah why don't you I am I. The guests of your sources are going to say. Oh we're totally innocent. We didn't do anything wrong right now with other. I mean like I don't know it's it's more just trying to gather You know hearsay. I aren't in the right direction. So that I can poke around and there's one gene kirk that It would be quite ironic dot com. That's all I can say for for that. Though doc I'll I WANNA say united agree on this. We both derived sexual pleasure from Sam Kennedy looking like a complete asshole and this shit fucking organization having having a couple of bad days on that we agree right now. Jim Kennedy Guy. He's an angel Angel in heaven. He's a fucking Angel in heaven. I seek she kirk. If you had someone in your life that treated you great for like fifteen years and then they were a dick to me would you. Would you hate them or would you be like. Oh well OUGHTA here. Here's here's the difference. It's a good question and I'll answer that because I like you and if somebody treat you like shit even if I liked them I would criticize them for that publicly. You personally both interesting. Of course I'm worried we won't you fuck talk. Of course I went. I'd say why would you treat crops if it's unfair which the red sox treated me completely unfairly. They tried to ruin my life fine. They got they got whatever they got. They got their head on the I. Congratulations but now when they are taking some shit. I'll turn the question over over to you if they're in shit like that if you're me wouldn't you take pleasure in rubbing their faces in that shit. I guess it depends on it. It's a case by case basis and there's is people there's people that it's not it's not just euchre like there's there's guys that have had Kevin like I'm still just you know I. I judge the people I judge people based on how they treat me. I mean that's fine. I don't have a problem. That's what I'm saying. It's such a nice guy. Why does he text Kirk back tires them every day? I okay call him. He doesn't answer my calls. I mean you never call me I mean like I just did it because of the other day answer. Yeah doctor's appointment there's a bad actually i. It was weird I I woke up in the middle of the night with Like high on my seat Anything anything that's I don't know virus I guess what So the way I look at it here is Core is I'm with you on this. I hate the Red Sox so much that I'm actually GONNA wind up being your teammate in ally and having our scores back because I think the Red Sox are GonNa act like it was just coral loan. Nobody else knew anything. And they're going to be you know they're gonNa make him completely woman a percent scapegoating Brodsky's already gone and it's going to be a really really pussy move. That's my take on. Yeah I I'm really interested to see what comes out of the Red Sox and stuff the conversation one o'clock by the way yeah. I'll be there after that you'll you'll be there. I'M GONNA try and get in. Yeah I have A. I have a sneaky suspicion that you might be denied access. No you're talking to I mean you're one of the best. Investigative journalists are. I know I know what happened. Your feet a fucking break that story tomorrow. I know the whole thing. I love that. I love that. They're going to say nothing today because no one. Can you the media in Boston. I mean look like I've always said you know when people say to me Oh you should over Bradford and all these other beat writers but like corrobos. The difference difference is is a fan. He doesn't he doesn't lie. These other guys pretend to be journalists and then they're afraid to cover stories right so as you know. I'm I'm not like a fake Kirkman at hand. Show listen my actual listener so I like Who you who's a fake listener? I'M NOT GONNA name any names Kirk. That's because that's beneath me I feel like there are people. Hey Man but the show love your Kirk so I will. I'll let the main point here. Is that you said that. Rob Bradford was upset that I was trying to get press correct. Wow Oh this this is a is a to face fuck his face but years ago he'd be like Oh this guy like corrobos go in there and try and get press passes embarrassing stories. That absolutely happened completely. I feel like I've probably broken more stories off season than the the entire Red Sox beat combined and I don't even try of course you have and that's what you know. Obviously I hate rigs and I hate that fucking Gulf podcast that right now but when they had that when they had that battle with the the old golf writers. It's the same thing they can't handle the fact that the fucking winds are changing as opposed to try to get along go along with it. They act like old. You know stale stale ass holes and it just fucking blows by. They don't understand what's going on right now. I think I think it's also like the. You don't know how to break news. I do but I I I do not even wrong. I do it my way I like to. I like to tell you without telling you that really illegal. Yeah it tickles me because because there is what what benefit do I really get for being cited on websites that nobody even read reading support. If you break in borstal right right which which I will. We're not we're not allowed to break new some Barstool bits. That you are Abraham's of the world what is yet God that's fucking guy I mean I mean maybe can I mean right now I would say this. I don't know if people just you know about this rig situation but I mean the fucking asshole total asshole I I don't entirely know what happened. There I just know that when you you called in barter you'll radio with With Blind Mike and there is an exchange Shania word the day before and I feel like there. There was Miscommunication with rigs joke with Riggs. Riggs took Syria. He was is. That's sensitive I didn't realize it was that you said me too. I didn't even say I didn't say I didn't think you knew that you wouldn't take that seriously. I don't think I've ever taken a word you've ever Thursday. Besides you win Decides any wish me happy birthday every year. I always think I do say happy birthday every year. Every September eighteenth. They say it's a big day in the household. I'm assuming you're going to be Miami right. Maybe probably not they do the show that no no no right now book to go. Oh what's the issue. I Y you know I. I don't know I feel like if it's GonNa be football. Heavy scaled back on the number of people that are going to keep them confused. I honestly confused on Dan L.. Even get it. I don't even know why I'm going good right but it's like I I haven't paid attention into the NFL this year. You want me to go down there patriots in the superbowl. I'd rather get my thought somewhat but I mean I'm going to go down there with David Radio everyday. I'm not planning on talking about I. Don't watch football talk about it AM I. Am I supposed to do that. I mean probably not with you is are you against or you on the show the entire time. I'm hosting the show with Dave the whole week laugh. Suppose told I'm going. I'm fucking Mike and Steve Ago. We're going down there. I don't know that's incredible. Prouty Dongo what do you fight the heads. Keep me for I mean you know Miami at the superbowl. They portnoy on the radio. Why don't you don't you fire Steve Pearl? That'd be great honestly honestly I think about it every day. It's usually spend is good for now. I want to be like if I was on the plane. And something big happened with the globe or something or Murchison in Mike went on did some announced. That'll be like that. I would fucking fire. Yeah I don't know if you think you would you discipline them. I genuinely believe so you would not far. I might suspend them as long suspend parole for so now. Can listen to your podcast. It'll be good out. Probably I think it's going to be any one show suspension. Have you talked to corridor last last couple of days. Yeah but nothing nothing about what's going on it's Kinda like let's talk about the TV schedule alum here for you What what what? What the hell are you talking about? Why why would you bring that up? It's obviously a very upsetting subject. What what an interesting yes interesting? I mean like it's not like it's a fucking fucking guests on the show here dope. We live in two completely different worlds. Kirk we really. Do you understand the next Thursday. I told Stephen Mike liked this year. Because I've seen you tweeted this next Thursday a week from tomorrow tonight Harry. minihan will be in studio preview. The Royal Rumble. Yes so I think think Brandon Walker Robbie Fox and myself are thinking about bringing back wrestling podcast and we would look for Harry to be be a guest stable for the guy in now. I mean we probably haven't been there At second chair because you're not like Oh oh he's better than brain the Walker God knows so a guy I mean. That's so Harry's neck so I just want to make sure we're not you know because they're parcel gets sensitive when you when you propose a podcast. It's competing on thought so I don't WanNA battle with you guys over that but Harry's ready to go then yeah no that's fine I all. I'm saying. Is You know it would be. It'd be delightful if we could join forces Brandon Walker from his printing Walker. Hates me to this is true. CAN'T CONFIRM SUPERHERO super. ICS PARCEL headquarters. You what the fuck he gave him. He gave Kirk the ten second long hand shale is to blend you. It says it's just the way people say what all these people understand this. I literally don't understand. This could not be nicer to Barstool people. Yeah I think With me I I was I was exposed to in more ways than one crew will not I mean If I was exposed to you so I knew what to expect. I know what you're about and I feel like when you came to Barstools. There were a lot of people that Kinda like when you go out in the beef with Christian for you like the these are guys that just never had their button pushed by someone That has the The body frame like a like a forty five year old woman. They the inappropriate so I signed gender. That's fine him on the business of doing that. If you WANNA do that that's up to you. I don't appreciate yeah. I know I'm I'm just an accurate. Depiction I'm actually. I'm actually I'm actually in tremendous physical condition right now just so you know you run your runner right now. It'd be cut down while the Diet stuff. I've been doing the planking as last week. I have a whole new a whole new bobby tone right now. I may off a Miami. Jared are you. Do you think the retro Red Sox should worry about their sponsors. There might be some people who calling around down. We may start start doing that. We're just not comfortable with the people having advertise with this organization. It just makes me uncomfortable. I never even considered that. That's a that's an interesting thinks that by the way I don't know which episode it was but you guys debated whether or not I like to eat. I Love Great Guy. I told you great guy. Hey what's great about him. He answers the phone how I say what. I'm a big jared travis fan now so I I always was always tweets like hey you know corrobos Robinson doing like this who he is. What Am I? He's like it's even pretend he's not like that. I have no. I have no problem with that. No doubt people are your fans the fans they tag you in anyone of my like. They want you to assassinate me for it. I mean I think it's I think it's embarrassing that you write it but I I appreciate your honesty. Yeah I think it's great I I my. That's my thing I your you have your thing which I I respect them enjoy. I have my thing that you don't respect their. It sounds about right Jerry. Ninety five guys have anything interesting to say this morning it was mostly just stuff Yeah I mean like they were not act Usually usually those. Are you know like we're laughing. Whatever it's a more serious matter man? Losing his job. I'm serious. Yeah but it was no it was. I always enjoy going out. Are you going to I'm assuming you don't like them either. I like them ninety five guy. Big Ninety kidding me. I love off touch rich. Good Friends of mine. Are you going to red sox. Winter Weekend I don't know the full body rack that I've got going. I don't know if I want to bring that to you know especially with the GM. Mike maybe around like like beer. I think Steve Murphy will be signing autographs as well. The famous covers all right. I'll talk to you later. Good bye bye. Yeah you as well thank you. Steve is totally missed. A D- totally. Just GonNa play ball. I like the idea that they kept it serious because a man lost his core like. Hey what's going on. What's no chorus back in Puerto Rico at a shanty with no electricity just scraping together some pennies a millionaire twenty times over since I'm not going to bring it up like their actual buddies not gonNa make it awkward between us like what are you talking coral if you're not catching on that he gets in enough from the public? What's going on today? Are you doing she star wars. You going to do just the person I wanted to hear when my career is falling apart we pick in the rumble. They do talk debate last night. Yeah so half day for Harry next Thursday so after show he's GonNa come. I'm and we're going to tape something in the afternoon for Friday. Show the last show before the royal rumble is he told me. Oh well that make sense. Amy told me he got a couple of jokes. Steve that you're going to have to do a pause after because people be laughing. Nothing what listen to the. They won't be able to hear the next couple of jokes lineup. Okay excellent the laugh track or I don't I don't know isn't these keys. Trying them on China's for the first time new material took those comedians. You know with any luck we can get Harry to host the next main governors roast. That funny which is already Wednesday is the next Mike in the fans lined up yet or no no funniest said why is that well it could be a scheduling issue. This week. We don't know could be live from in Western mass potentially potentially we're figuring it out. What are the schedule issues that at the well the producer is kind of in limbo right? Now we don't really know what's going on fair point decision and she'd get into that yet right no no no no yeah no. I don't know any updates though or no no for me okay. We'll we'll be here Friday though. Yes that's great news yes. WHO's will intern? Wedding will foreigners that he's in turn you like bets strong. Yeah so he's going to be here. Just observing you yes okay to sitting in their possibly possibly helping me with some stuff Friday maybe fraud and said okay well so there was a on Friday. Suppose there were was originally supposed to be now score press conference it when Rican. I suspect I'll yeah I don't know if that's GONNA happen. I'M GONNA say probably not the weekend breaking news from your father in law and we have not gotten a refund yet. That's I was GONNA say I. There's no no word yet. But those commercials saying hey. You'll get to ask Alex Cora the Astros cheating scandal. You should do it. You should do all the bucks us one hundred ticket. Was It really two hundred people that he wasn't making it was. It was a conversation with Alex Cora. I think he's GonNa make a a little bit of a clip off. Set Ray that he has to do PARV contract. I'm sure as yeah twelve of these dumb talk to these idiot. All Red Sox fans which will be red sox winter into weekend if you know what that is is this fucking ludicrous. Exciting much people mill around and they have radio E E there in the Gulf of bunch of legends. There it's going to be fucking awesome. Oh read people are also be there will now be looking for many between the ages of twelve and ninety trouble. Trouble might struggle but I did one those Rob Valentine got hired. I was still doing weekends. it was still a family then and so we do acuity with me Rob Tom. Karen of Nessun Nice Guy and Valentine and ask them a couple of questions that were not quite what they wanted wasn't even bad. I mentioned Frank Colon his name or something and you could feel the ice in the room and Ballantine was just like what the fuck I was like. It's not gonNA work out well. I told that we're Bradford warned Javanese like did he walk away early on you that was a different. Yeah okay I hear Tell Valentine back here tell that he may be there as well who Rob Bradford Will W Ya kidding me six to be Radford Merloni knobs to be bringing worked. I'm sure that will happen. Good you're the torment Bradford's are your friend anymore. More I know I know you Sir Corrobos same thing right you know robs a little weasel. I didn't know that question. No question about it and I know it's disappointing. And they seem to get in that press conference when you say hello. How will it work when they know to me? You think they'll just say no like when I walk in well remember the media. So do you have a credential. No that's what time is the press conference one o'clock so do you think someone's going to hear you at the beginning of this podcast saying I'm going and they're gonNA have a police. degray they're awesome will fulfill. I'm I'm Emma. I'm worry me yeah. I think police details about the only way. They're going to keep you out his hand on me. You know he gets he. It's I I had zagging when I ahead secondhand last two hits undefeated. You'RE GONNA assaulted. Police officer commits me. Still not sure that you get to hit a cop if they hit you I. I think you can't get the legal. I think so too. Believe so don't think I'd still assaulting an officer. You're you're southbound self defense. They're going to send the police there. I think if they hear that refer for you are trying to sneak into the press conference press conference. No no no no no. I'm going out to the front door rather than through the food thing it would. Just be fenway security right right. Those old fat shitheads. Well sorry are you willing to get physical in order to get into the press conference do. It's a good move with them. Why I'll bring a young boy with me and destroys drift aside and then they'll all pay attention? Tensions sprinted distracted. I think that's that's the way they go to. Khartoum me of a pie in the window. Just dance right in and I have a question and right ask and hopefully you know I would say that John Henry who owns the newspaper and always talks about you know Freedoms being able to ask questions and freedom of the press and all this stuff with welcome questions from the media and I will. He did that with a trend now. I mean congratulations them. I'm a member of the media. I'd say honestly. She's still the most prominent member of the Boston media. So why wouldn't I be allowed to ask a question. I think we at least need to get an email for John Henry so we sent him questions that works for. Shaughnessy your shock jock. You're going to go in there. For shock value. I will correct supremacism ninety five this morning. Yes I don't even know that. Could you know he's by the way like you know you can say what you want but corrobos no beat writer in America has loyal audience to see those right. I mean this is easily. The biggest red sox right off close nine close. It means he's illiterate but it doesn't matter. He admits it. I mean he's you know he's a dope stuff under questioning. Are You corrobos Josh. Always like me because as I always said I was. I was number one in Boston. I went to this fund kids baseman chest and he told me about podcasting nats right. That's kind of the saints. He created I do think. The Caracas's The blind. Mike's of the world these other guys are like Oh. This guy didn't need to do this and they did it. I always felt that way when people come on six seventy years ago me. That's the only need to do that right. You've always been loyal to those five until they fucked me over life. I mean listen to fuck you over they fuck you over. That's why I was appreciated. Even like a Galley Peter King Right WHO's a drip? The football writer kind of a bore but whenever we reach out to him mm-hmm I remember I. I remember I filled in my own on the Labor Day once in the I got a huge fight Archie wrote about it. Yes over Ray Rice I think and deflate gate I did blow. He came on that day. No problem and then a couple months later are the PODCAST and I call them up. And he's like Oh sure no problem. He came forty great. Forty forty five minutes. I like I like guys mazing when you find people that don't they can realize like Oh. This was an argument about sports political issue. No below the belt shots autzen like you like each other. And then you're done. It used to be. That guy was like that wants to some extent but a strange. I don't know like I don't know what April rains opinion. One of US was yesterday but take that as an example of there's a lot of people that will come out and have that argument and afterwards would say like all. Those guys are assholes that would never go so she so she clearly the social media because we have seen it. But I'm just saying I'm saying someone that that that's the worry that's why people won't come on the show because they're afraid we're going to bully them or some true. Did she tweet. We'd ending or no. I didn't see anything no I imagine. She's probably just happy. She's making the media rounds She got back to us very quickly when I asked if she wanted to go. Oh good one. I've ever run again. I don't think she expected that I knew about movies. No like I think she was surprised that any more than she has to say. I think he numerous surprised her. I think she's used to you know and I don't know I think she's probably used to going on. NPR Kinda shows. Yeah Oh definitely I would think so. Yeah which is weird. I do every day but I'm like Kuyt for coming up. No question. Yeah she come out again. If she didn't really give her credit she might come back on again because again she tweeted out a Hashtag and has turned that into her career. How should make a living off that? She's a she's does media appearances and she does vary initiative. She's probably on the board of a bunch of different things like. That's that's what happened. She she saw opportunity and she took. It only comes up once a year right. What does she do the rest of the other things that are so white? It's I really every year Democrat primary field though she does though. Is that like different brands. It is different things. But whose fault is that that there are four white people left essentially the Democrats right and the media now they liberal what amazing. The Democrat Party is racist. I'm sitting there. What last night watching? 'EM KEEP in mind if Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren and or Joe Biden or elected president. They would all be the oldest person ever elected president. It's a bunch of old white for first term one six seventy one or seventy two have been trump. Though I think they'd be the youngest at the oldest at the time of the election and I mean Reagan was obviously older the second terminal stuff. But it's three old white people after all this chest thumping do you know the real honest question asked us. Three people are if you care so much progress. Why don't you step aside? Let some of the younger of color or somebody else take take your position. Well it's like what Tucker said about Maddow the ABC guy where he's always he's always saying that point and yet he still has his job. He has replaced Smart Twenty eight year old woman or or or minority. Take your job but even like you're taking the top candidates I would say. Look at Tom. Steiner and Amy Klobuchar old white people. Why not replace them with Tulsi Andrea? Yeah that's up but diversity is such a but I also don't but that's you know if you want to run for president. I guess you want to run for president. It's their fault that these people are voting for them right. Sort sort of the bottom the bottom two. So this is more to seventy. She would be seventy one then right. Yes you turn. On June soon. The younger than older than trump was elected Gucci younger than trump. I remember at the trump was seventy two so speaking of Matthew Dowd in this kind of topic. He tweeted out yesterday trump three now. so He'd been this late sixties. Okay you know another old. It's just it's all the same. Yeah you know. Obama was fairly young but you know before Obama was George W Bush for him it was Clinton Clinton County Bush. Reagan Ford good this dowd. He's GonNa he solves this problem. You know one clear way to demonstrate that you believe that women can and should be president. Don't try to defeat a woman running for President I mean she's from unopposed. So if you're evil except for the Women Club it should be our our Tulsi Warren just although and trump should not run while trump's sexist for him to run Bernie all Carly Fiorina then mm-hmm. Yes Okay Bachman Matthew Dowd Want Michelle. Bachmann reprisal pair Palin Palin McCain he liked the was worn something last tonight. I I'm at I'm probably the perfect example because I don't know much about any of this shit. Why is that funny? No Science is laughing at a down to take it easy Mike Goll- sensitive shootout tape talking. He's laughing what am I supposed to assume doing. You said you were stupid. Made me laugh in the inside. Go ahead anyways yes. It doesn't matter go ahead. Elizabeth Warren made some point about how you know the only two people on this stage to beat incumbent Republican in an election army and amy Klobuchar right in the last thirty and I thought why am I supposed to give a shit about and by the way like National People. Don't even know it was worn is talking about. She did not really beaten incumbent. Skull a Scott Brown was put in a special election would a fluke election because of obamacare and nothing that even run a Senate full it was like he just got thrown in there. So we're we're talking curt schilling being Senator One. Not You know. Somebody responded to doubts. tweet saying Bernie's not a sexist and doubts as what I find fascinating is that he keeps trying to defeat women running for president as opposed. He even made a joke last night. He said I think these women are great candidates. I hope they don't win right. And he's a he's a paid political commentator on ABC a Republican you trying to the beat like other networks in the ratings who employ women. I think he might be sick. I want you know what a what a way to think you. You just step aside. Should if he thinks a woman would be he asked him thinks he would be the best candidate for president so I would ask him then superbeing clear. We'll ask ask him to come on. Yeah we can okay come on so in two thousand eight. Then Barack Obama anti-woman. I just want to get that cleared his mind if he's being consistent. Barack Obama hates women in progress. Women are making right and evening. I guess you could say anti white people I guess. But that's okay. Yeah well though so Clinton is racist. I running against Obama and Obama. Sex Right in the third guy was John Edwards. Who's got his own? But I mean it's just it's just total insanity. It's just a disguise. A This guy works for network you say Burton fence a fascinate Bernie Sanders. Running it's women by the way he's running against the network that spiked the works for the network that spiked the Jeff Epstein cold. Who Cares about that right? That is unbelievable. Jesus Steve Santa's the other day is like we all all kind of laugh at that. Like everyone knows the Jeffrey Epstein stories a hoax But that's kind of where it ends like all right. Well why are they covering it up. If we all agree it really hasn't been any follow up. Everyone is. Yeah but there's been no follow up to like all right. Well then who did kill him. Luwan conspiracy degrees. There's probably something going on. Yeah I think it's it's now gotten to the point that stores got to the point almost JFK Ville where you can say anything. Some people believe it not really like it's sort of you can goes crazy as you want the Clintons. Kill them troubles like the conspiracy. Theory is the cover up right. Yeah it's sort of. I don't think anybody ever know the answer. Whoever whoever if anybody produces definitive answer so many people doubt it because it's now in the world of conspiracy land? What's that my pal? Jeff felt so guilty that he took his own way against probably. What happening happens? Probably what happened. I was thinking this yesterday. Do the ability that makes stories. I if I mentioned this or not yesterday the ability to make stories go away by just not talking about them yeah The Globe is a perfect example. This Boston meade is a perfect example. I'll give you one. Is anybody followed up the last six months on the RT shoot. No new gone never talked about his triumphant return to the Dominican Republic. A A little while now so I mean you know I'm not saying teases innocent or guilty whatever but just floated away mistaken identity never talked about again ever why it because nobody in the global turnover. He's guilty because no one's ever asked they'll be in the herald covered no sports talk radio to cover it and nobody's no beat registering to do some actual investigated digging on it. Yeah yeah you know because there's not even a theory that came up where it's like. Oh that was probably it. Then you know what I mean. There's no way there's some vague theories that kind of suggests Ortiz was doing something and that never claim. It was texting all day about after he got shot but wasn't but the shooting. No checking other stuff is the fantasy draft so he doesn't texting corn be like. Hey what's up doing today. Why Kirk wound? He asked. It's GONNA be uncomfortable. But that's what access journalism is. I agree and then maybe get the interview in so yes. That's the thing about jared. That would annoy you know. The peed Abraham's of the world or whoever. But it's like they would do the same thing you know corrobos at least honest. And that's why I have no problem with. I mean I would never. I couldn't stomach it but he doesn't care. But why why should I tell you know what I mean. It's it's like anything. The Globe writes about the socks. is its own form of access journalism. Because they can talk with sources they get only by virtue of the corporate structure that they work in and they and they don't disclose it right. Gerald Gerald disclose. Yeah I'm pals with Cora and I see the guy that's like Chattan the other people we cover this story you cover the story. What's going on the field? But you'll never ask the real real questions because you know you can't and that's it that's it you know. We know that we'll see how it goes tomorrow. I'm curious how I perform in this press conference today as I the chance of getting in but Kevin Cohen Gidon. Perhaps I mean just I will say if I get in you talk about sitting in a room where I don't have a single single ally. The beat writers in the Red Sox front office. There's going to be someone that you like. Oh yeah they're people I like. They don't want them to their people. I like but not a lot I I am which I love completely blackball speak I I speak to no one in the media. Speak to Mutt. That's it we'll say how do PD. Before me. And I don't think he will be saying I'll ask him get the. CD burned for me. We'll start to be there maybe you cannot you will be there. Maybe concur queue up an interview. have him come here. Oh I love that. Yeah I get along great with him. I mean there are people I get along with but it's you know I'll go in there but the other ones I sit once they see me in there. That's the the other thing so they're gonNa get you out. Not a woman. Getting kicked out will be Kinda great though. It would be fun if you'RE GONNA if you're going to get kicked out they won't they won't bring out any red sox officials vow kirk is sitting there questions at you probably get routed out by the globe the global runback. Nobody likes to see no hens. Here's my advice would be one thing thing I did. Learn from the Great Day of Portnoy's if you do get dragged out just go completely love yeah. I think they're going to have to carry out. slugged defend sir. John Henry Academy other great. I'll leave that. Mankind makes me forty five year. Old Woman doesn't even make any sense. Uh I mean he's still hung up on any sense saying a woman of your age has probably a slater frame than the typical man. And that's what you look like. I don't think that's that's true. I don't go for those kinds of stereotypes. Because the over there are still sexist assholes see I also disagree with that opinion because then that would be that would mean that I got my ass kicked the tennis by Someone with a frame of a forty five year old. And what would be wrong with that. That wasn't asking wrong with those new a woman because there there physically Less US wrong. Remember leaker fast. Twitch muscle fibers for a couple of years ago. John McEnroe got in trouble trouble for for a couple of days. He had the union the police all. I'm thinking of Martina Navratilova McEnroe's well. where he suggested that Serena Williams would not be one of the top five hundred men tennis players in the something? By the way that Serena Williams said years prior right which anybody who has a brain in their head I remember he didn't NPR interview even the NPR interview. Is like what is accused Rig Schick when he talk you say they're not in by the way he said he's like she's the best player of all time because compared to our competition. Well well look. It's all put down the NPR view. I think McEnroe and Steve Our sexist assholes and I never seen any proof. That manner physically Bobby Riggs. Any different lyrics was like sixty two years old and he played Billie Jean King. I mean asking if he served him up an asshole she shirt did. There was a competition a game match when I was younger. Connors Played Navratilova Charity Event Navratilova got to use the doubles courts in the match and conner only got one serve any beater like six to six awesome. So I would feel I think it's sexist even to give Course woman those advantages. They would do that. Now if Serena Williams play Roger Federer she would get killed Hawaii it. Why would you know doing it for a bit like a- video whatever I would feel I would not do it if they were like? Hey we'll give you the blond guy rules else right. It's just be uncomfortable. I don't you know a good high school. Basketball boys team would beat the Yukon Women's team soundly. Oh it's I fifty points points. I don't agree with a good like a really top on the top. I was just a good school basketball team. I actually think the women are some of the most heroic performance in the NBA Championship. Let me get that straight OK. Good is there just a really good high school. That's different so you've got a team of five Kirkman hands. Is there any he. WNBA team that you would lose to Kirkman today every team Alka. Yes yeah. I'm forty five. I'm old I'm not. I'll play basketball anymore. When's the last time you years and the play when I was eighteen no I'd be solid? WNBA her though in the past. No Way I'm getting older. I am my memories getting fuzzier win the MVP. Yeah Fuck. But but I wasn't great player. I'm talking Greg a really really good high school basketball team would smoke a good. But that's not even obviously it's sexist to say anything otherwise why it's condescending the same thing otherwise I great. They're great at what they do. They're tremendous against their competition. was that bad. Why why do we have to do this thing where it's like it's US lying because equality but they are equal i? I think it's very brave about worn without some of the testosterone and other physical. That's the thing I mean it's just it's not a strong in some in some some some are you know there's no woman that could ever played the NBA yet that may change. Also a lot of women were beaten me. A lot of women were beat me in basketball. They probably would so they scale move. See this and the war bring this up. It is going to happen again next. Couple years people are going to want this to be true for some reason it's like WNBA prospect or whatever. That's why that may happen in great if that happens. It's unbelievable what we're five. Maybe six seven seven years away from the current crop of high school. I guess controversies with transgender athletes going through college and maybe entering the draft. Only that I mean the the that's true but also remember Olympics said we're we're going to allow that so we also start getting that anytime you get. What's her name Seminar Semolina the African Sprinter Sprinter. Who just has a genetically higher levels of testosterone right? She's not allowed to run women's events just because she has genetic but you're right the WNBA is going to start having having that yes and I mean there are pretty woke league. So they're going to be cool with it. I guess and a lot of people will watch very highly rated success. It's great now it's not just funded funded by the NBA on its own. That's a very I watch good fundamentals are what make entertaining back. I like bounce passes okay like picking away bounce passes and boxing out that's with them a good solid fund that they put the funding fundamentalist jump. Shot Yeah we wind up here. But you're doing it all to ending Steve. We played all the sound Mike Equity got And happing in the two hours since we've been start with her between our service to start the show that Bitch Tom. That's from one of his one of his podcasts. He says he doesn't want to be a bit of old angry bitch. Sometimes I take Jerry out of context texts with creative liberty in the club. All the time raping boys that was in perfect context this day. There's nothing there's nothing there's nothing to then Yeah anything going on in the world since we started today. You never know because I think we miss things. Sometimes because we're sort of you know deep into a conversation but I've been surprised how few things uh have broken during the show that we've missed her. You know that's true. Yeah I'm looking at like rarely do we get out of here and say Oh shit. We weren't talking about this. I'm not sure it's early in the you. You know early in the morning but yeah no not too much all right so God the DC get by mys- groupie. Aw ever on the show. I didn't know that. Yeah I'm guessing it's not going to happen you know. She's then tends to flake weird. How how that works strange? It sounds like somebody's a mouthpiece for her and they came down to the maybe she's supposed to be the WASCO allegedly odds would you put on that. Steve says there was a name that came through that he thinks is legitimate. It had to be on her. Yeah so I duNNo. We're actually interesting couple of interesting potential promotional stuff coming up as well with me. I think we're I feel like we're Jesus for three weeks away. Three and a half weeks away San right creeping up on you know before we get there. We're going to be there. It's going to be. I think people would rather go. I hope are you ready. You guys both ready for Miami. Where is over? Yeah I mean. I'm not packed but I'm ready Mike. We find soul now yes sounds like potentially yeah so the whole fight was having an interesting. It'll be a fun fight down. Why's that heroes certain provincial Figure maybe on my point really the greatest president whoever lift the funniest. They're going there as well. Okay what's on the tape in the mornings by not eight hours can be for. You just ate Niamey. Navigating around they'll defined eight o'clock he'll be fine. Yeah I think it'll be fine. I mean I'll I'll know on Sunday after I get my rental car. I'll do a test drive and see how long it'll take me to get there. But I mean unless traffic is Boston. Crazy shouldn't be assuming we can have the studio that time as well right. There's no one's taping in the morning as well. That's one good. They will work at this. I think they thought they said that. Two recording studios. We'll be the only only show recording that early. Sure ever room. Where forty do the details for your room? He did yes. I emailed just him to handle fucking look at my emails. Don't you know that by now tells you send me an email. I don't know I don't look over your shoulder. Good Point I mean you always say email. I haven't read it okay. What did you do that yesterday? Maybe to my I got the email I do. Email your email account. 'cause I don't use the Barcelona Down No. I don't know what the password is for that. I should probably find out. We went to US right time. When you thought you had lost access to your twitter account right? I don't think I I don't think I another. Yes Raoult's four four panicky phone calls from Kirk. She's my Mike Email crashing twitter. I was with the fuck is going on here all right. I think you think of that when you talk. I guess I'll talk about football. Guide can do whatever you want but on radio. Yeah Yeah that's why I think it's going to be more than you realize. A lot of football talk gotta get t-shirts done by the way. You didn't respond to one of the designs I sent you. I didn't want with the baby baby pacifier in it. I like that one. Those are good can only match those are good. Should be good right. Yeah a couple of Mike you that one to. Ah that'll stave off. Yeah I think even more. I don't even know they'll be mad if I do it. I want maybe though. I don't know if I cut a little. A little deep does still fresh us us but you made a good point because I send them. I didn't send them. That was kind of subtle Steve's like he's not gonNA understand there's got to be a you're right you don't WanNa give it away. That's why I think. The Soul Cycle Scher work. That's old though it's like that's that's it is old but it'll annoy him. But I WANNA go more modern thinking if you were to evolve bus. Stop devolves us. I don't care about that I said four or five ideas and I think if you went throughout the week like on a buildup started so cycling ended it. Yeah but that's not even my babble though take care about that true you know. It's keeping our battle all right so back. Tomorrow I'll give you we'll get the full recap of the press conference whether or not what I'm going to try I'm going to be there. Friendly Fenway on Jersey Street and Paul because you cut yourself God I can't even. I can't ah get some heavy editing to this mode got the whole conversation about men being better at physical sports rough also the prominent author from Maine Gene. Yes horror writer of his name now him around You WanNa walk on that street now. I I'm still. I think they changed the name of it you. ooh It's still feels. It feels weird. Just just does like the guy pumps agree. I mean they had really Mazer for trial did. That's the one of my favorite quotes ever is that he owned the team for fifteen years or whatever it was at the time haunted. I'm haunted by the name him Yawkey. He can't sleep. Looks like the Kripke is great. I mean he's a happy person said when these haunted nightly or whatever was name of Y'all meanwhile you can't walk into the boss House season eight Yawkey and you know yawkey probably was racist. I mean you know probably a guest. This anecdotal evidence. I mean I mean once I've seen people say wasn't so you know it's sort of their people who said he treated the black people so I think George George Washington was also probably race. George Washington was was a racist. I can get yeah. Great Book never caught. And I've talked about this before I rather year or two ago. No it's more than that can you. I gave my copy to how long ago was trendy. She's yes but she never give it back. She did not give a back. Steve Surprising about how Georgia Martha Washington this one particular slave. Who escaped opt? They spent like twenty five years trying to hunt this woman down. They were fucking totally evil. Believable you text trendy today and say hey do you of that book by the way At what point in history and I think this is going to happen. Well he changed the name of the State Washington you no Jefferson one of those names. Do you think that we'll have yes. Oh no question. No question. Cities named after Gaza Jefferson Washington. I I don't think change Washington. DC or Washington state. So I guess if you're doing if you're doing a based on the standard of Anyone who was ever racist can't have stuff named after them. Then that's a heavy V lift because you've got to go after Woodrow Wilson and you got to basically go. After every President before Chirac started the title star with Washington Wash Wash own slaves. He was tortured. Slaves Jefferson raped. Slaves youngest allegedly allegedly sally. Sally hemmings stuff hasn't been proven. Thomas Jefferson Jefferson I. He owned them. Steve He also he also had a mentally ill nephew who was more likely the suspect. Okaying selling slaves. Yes yes so for the conversation you just threw out an allegation. The founding fathers that he's a rape rate slaves all right go in global reach out to come on and defend yourself you can do it. Let's say this phone's is by today's version of consent. I'm not sure anybody really hold up. Defending Thomas Jefferson treated as slaves awesome. He called him a rapist. So they're they're I'm telling you at some point at some point especially if trump wins again. He'll be looking for things to do. They're going to start with that stuff. Remove them from the penny removed them from this off after being. Lincoln's GonNa take anybody not much true. That's fine okay Washington the nickel. Yeah in the quarter. Jefferson's on the nickeled Ah Washington's on the quarter true. I will be off. That is our dime bank so nice hours okay. He's is not good D- president you like. I think some good product president. The left think he's a war criminal. Good good guy hero really euro friend of mine here I could. They could good. President could present IOS the president. Nobody talks about Franklin Pierce prison. One of my favorite good is the worst. President Greg Ragas told him did not not not respect historically could present good that it was a James Buchanan guy. Jason Jim Buchanan again. Jim is a good guy. Good guy good guy. Bill parcells and I are friends with J.. Yeah Jim's a good guy. Good Guy Good Guy Nixon. Good guy bad back. I would like go down the list. You know like the show. Excellent tells me like the show the listen to it look the show Clinton. I don't know about these planes. I Dunno good guy and Mike Wayne Sleep. Mike Talk Politics after the debate today are just waiting for the caucus. I think he said. Oh that was take. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get to. It'll be a self contained pained says we're not far from I mean we're weeks away. Strange has got to talk about a day of a strange limit to put on it. I give credit for discipline and you get to the caucus. He's saying. Look look everybody can preview it. That debate last night. How about that? I'm going to talk about it day. The Caucus Colbert. I don't know I don't like to hear I was thinking of Francis Shirt Art. Good Day bad day. I didn't know exactly how it would look like. For instance. It may come down like you would like the other piss off entercom. Yeah that's what I was thinking. I could like a boring minus in a shirt boring mine. Yeah Harry's I kind of liked that but on the sunol that's going to be that he would do it so so he's always been sort of a fame whore. Yes shrews manufacturer saying before that sound. No no we were listening to it earlier before or you get in. And there's not who's nothing to that that it was both who could be listening to that like yesterday on radio does the thing he didn't get any calls. Say Right now and I Kengo on. I made them wrong about this but used to be able to go on like they would play it round the clock on radio dot com whereas maybe they do. I don't know if you went to the MIC on channel. Right now you would hear yesterday's show so he doesn't really he. He does ninety hours of content and the first step the sorry ninety hours ninety minutes and so the first hour is on ADJUST TO RADIO DOT COM. Second half are the last half hour is on. Wfan they post them separately like they're separate shows so if you go to the Mike Von Page you get his his tweets ends up being twenty five minutes. He takes a five minute commercial break so his radio show is twenty five minutes long now. I don't know if he doesn't get calls he's just not taking calls. There's no there's no way but he doesn't. This House took calls all the time so they have the mechanism. Yeah I think choosing not to take calls which is so bizarre saying hey dave only got twenty five minutes of me they need to hear me. Maybe that's what I was thinking. I don't know he doesn't he doesn't even look at the phone number. Pretend like he's interested in call. What was the guy's name from her? Chambers Andy what was it didn't catch. Oh Shit yeah remember somebody who somebody will tweeted out. I'm sure let's call on her carseat talk some of these sales now they must have somebody got to be there. The front desk Somebody at the front desk. No yeah well. They're old front desk person left recently. I heard Oh is that right. I scared her out. After my his Urbana Meeting I dumped thing of candy once and for all of pissed off she told Sheikh reported to fill Zachary complaints. What are you doing interesting front desk story about? Phil Zachary One's own. Hello Hello I good morning to you. Must be to Dana Pana Pinto please. Thank you helps to know. The People's names Steve. You have to take you're from here. What is that weird? Sounder Radio For a second front desk. Somebody's listen to Mike. Ask uh-huh Hey Happy Hump Day Marquette employees. He's really good. Well you look at Answer calls I'll give them credit tried. I mean may we try I mean yeah boy Murchison Higher Lewis. This is Mark Canada better combat. Show imagine having you guys miss. You guys missed out on a good line. I was going to have if they picked up that high. Your this is Steve Your life the tape. Pretend like it was my last name but sneak that little bit in there so we could use the audio. I have knowing your talk. This is Steve Your life to tape l.. Understand he's talking about like I love live to tape tape. Yeah so I just kind of sneak it in there like it's my last name but I'm telling telling them that they're being recorded so that we can audience remember an. 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Little Atoms 571 - Adam Foulds' Dream Sequence

Little Atoms

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Little Atoms 571 - Adam Foulds' Dream Sequence

"They say little atoms a radio show about ideas and coacher with me nail. Denny. This week on his latest novel dreams e. Adam folds most recent books and the wolves mouth the quick maze. Which was shortlisted for the man Booker prize and won the on Corre world and the aero opean union price of literature and the broken word, which when the custom poetry award an assumption that MoMA ward he has recently been awarded the m foster award by the American Academy of arts and letters and named as one of grunt is best young British novelists and Adams latest book dream sequence. We're going to talk about they welcome to the lessons. Thank you for having me say, how would you describe sequence dream secrets is is slightly fevered short novel that is wrapped up in the experiences of two characters. Henry who is an actor who has become very successful in one television program, which is now ended after a few seasons. This one lucky bit of casting having carried him further than he'd expect. Added. He's now being ojected at the end of that and in a state of anxious ambition. He's looking for the next thing. He's looking to become a stall to become a well known and notably versatile actor. So we follow him. He is preparing for an addition when we first meet him with a kind of European art house director who thinks will give him a lot of cachet and helped boost him in the way that he he wants he's starving himself for a few days for that audition. Because that's a a a role should he get it would require some body transformation the kind of many with actors have undergone? So that's Henry wrapped around story is that of a character. Kristen who is an American in Philadelphia. She has met Henry on one occasion. And when she did. So in a state of some kind of emotional disarray at that point had an experience. Kintu religious experience in which it was revealed to her that the universe is essentially loving and safe and that she and Henry are destined to be together. And she is determined and sets about in the course of the novel to bring this about say, she's Henry Henry didn't really beat her. No Henry metro in the way that he might meet any fan in airport and not think too much about it. But for Kristen it was it was life changing and utterly kind of clarifying of her destiny and our Christian. I and what we meet her. She's she's just recently, divorced. But she has. I guess weather fraught relationship with her own family, and indeed probably most intimate relationship is with with young stepson. But she's she's a woman of some privilege. She's not she's let's talk about the position. Jeez. In when we first meet her in the book, so she comes from a working class background, and she became the PA to a successful businessman, and that turned as those relationships can into a romantic relationship. He divorced his first wife, married her. She was lifted up into a world of as you say privilege and money that she certainly was not used to before. And then just as her kind of potentially child. Rearing childbearing years are are passing. He divorces her and moves onto his third wife is described as the kind of guy who you know, who would want to have a third wife on his CV. So she is then spat out she has. A settlement. She's living in a small house in Philadelphia on her own and for the timing. The doesn't have any strong pressure to get a job, which means is all the more room for interest in Henry to kind of expand exfoliating. Yeah. Exactly. All of these all of these reasons the situation that she's in the fact that she has these leisure time make it. So the perfect for this fantasy this dream relationship to percolate, doesn't it? Yes. That's exactly right. Yeah. And so what does Kristen think happened when she meets in the apple? I think she thinks that she saw reality. And that twin soul was present in Henry, and and that she she had a deep experience of knowing as very akin to a religious experience and therefore in a similar way opaque to people around her. You know, she is driven by faith in invisible reality. I'm not going to talk about too much about what happens in the book. But it it does give away in the blurb on on the leaf that. She she travels to faithfully follows him to London. And then things happened. I wanted to this idea of the stalker. While of you had experience yourself year, I have some experience, and I've I've seen it unfold somewhat. But I would say that at she what I'm interested in in Christian psychology. And why she is not written in a kind of psychopathic true crime style is that she is on a continuum with the way all of us think in a magical way from time to time anyone falling in love is over committing to an ideal. Anytime you think this is destined to happen. I was fated to meet this person. We are meant to be together. You are in that realm of thinking about the universe. Having some invisible. Intent that is guiding the shape of your life. And she's I think broadly speaking, you could say that. Stalkers can be divided into people like Kristen hall, mystical and actually kind of sweet and committed to a an idea of of love and connection, and the more typical stalker who is predatory typically a kind of jilted boyfriend who then pursues the X. So you're Kristen as I say is someone who is committed to an ideal of love, the to some extent, we will share hers is very boundary crossing and exists in is it exacerbated example of you know, part of all our psyche, which is kind of iridescent and and weird. And also I've been with more about this me move on to talk about Henry more detail, but the idea of celebrity Jim itself, which obviously is all nowadays in this age of social media is is even more saturating than than it was before. And and n his own way. Henry. Is caught up in this idea of pursuing the dream of celebrity culture as Christina's here's the both beset by desire the both dangerously committed to a future that they have to bring about. So Henry is still persuaded that there is a level of success a breakthrough that can come in his life that will lift him clear off his anxieties, and we'll make everything safe. And again, that's the thing that we experienced in some form every time we indulge in that full that if if there's one thing which just happened and everything would be okay. If we could get this job if such and such occurred than our life would be sorted. So yet an his story is the success and failure that and there is some intimation that some exploration of the space that is in a phrase of Philip Larkin's fulfillment. Desolate attic, you know, the achieving something and finding. That it doesn't sustain gratify you in the way that you want and then committing to the next achievement in a in a kind of endless reigniting hope. So let's talk more about had me banks Reggie said he's just come off the back of this middle brow. Sunday night downton abbey. Basically, the grains, I moved on. The show that you know, is obviously been massively popular in em in everybody's living rooms and announce finished now tears were Henry comes from Henry comes from a general sense of kind of Niro SIS, that's in the culture is a book in which I wanted to kind of grapple with things that seem very striking lured at times in our contemporary culture around the idea of fame the idea of success. The idea of curated would now say curated oneself all things. Again, we many people do in their Instagram feeds and their Facebook photos, and like it's about all those things that are going on. Obviously Henry being undeniably, a successful actor is in a very privileged position in society. But an actor's life is also remains on, sir. Certain. I'm remains subject to possible rapid fade away constant reject is a life of constant rejection, and it is therefore a life in which some of the more anxieties about precarity, the are more generally shared in society, experienced also, and as you mentioned with the the Philip Larkin idea, he's he has this amazing career create anybody would envy is is constantly unsatisfied. Empty basically and literally l'estrange by the fact that for this arthouse roller these going for he's he's basically starving himself in in that sort of like method IT way. What does he got to be this viable? Oh. Well, that's that's not. Amenable to kind of Russian oil correction. I mean, it's it's in his personality. It's not about personalities you meet his parents few times in the novel. And you get a sense of maybe why it is that he has grown into an actor. Why he has that is to say sought love and approval from strangers. It's a very typical feature of actors biographers is sentence of experiences in the denial of approval in in childhood. I was very Merced in actors biographies and interviews with them as I was building Henry as as to some extent, we all arm, and they're extremely overestimated and over exposed people in our culture there. One might think often much more interesting people to devote feature interviews in the Sunday supplements to than the latest young man who's getting to play hamlet in the west. End-all or whoever you talk about him feeding constantly onset of constantly anxious. I think for a number of very successful actors there is no point which that ceases. I saw an interesting interview with Dame Judi Dench if you years ago when she was asked what she thought about her competitors. If she thought about other actresses who might be up for the role that she's up for in people that should come up with the Maggie Smith's or whoever over the over the years who might have been up for the same jobs as a she was and she said, very kind of Cooley that she felt them all the time, and she gestured to her sort of left shoulder that they were present in peripheral vision all the time, which clearly indicates, you know, quite uncomfortable source for an endless determination to to succeed. Little atoms. Are nailed any to them took to Adam folds, and we talked about his latest novel dream sequence and Adams sticking with that with Henry's world of the acting world you've made it this is basically set this book is basically a novel. It say it's a fictional story. But sets in the real world so real named actors. Belet Cumberbatch mentioned in the book as people that are in Henry's periphery, which also gives this. Let's talk about where the title comes from as well, but this is Krista constructing this fantasy worlds Hemi is living in this world of celebrity. But also, there's this sort of crossover between fact victory in the story as well as. Yeah. I mean would seem absurd to inventor of actors names, just when you know, people will immediately know who I'm talking about when I name them as a little kind of buzz that you get when nice line is produced about an actor that you that you know, that you can sort of recognize the work of description that and also that it just immediately feels therefore connected to the real world to your lift experience. What was the second part of that question is that that was that was basically what I wanted to get into the sort of the mic saying, you know, why you made that this next. The fact the fact fiction. Oh, and also, yeah, let's talk about the title as a title. It just came to mind as something that just sort of sits in the middle of these various concerns of the novel dream sequence. Obviously has a film acc- connotation a big fan of dream sequences in Simone, generally. Like, the one in rosement is baby, for example, or wild. Strawberries is on the best bits of cinema thing dream. Obviously has a connotation of the desired thing, you know, your dream home your dream kitchen. It's would be my dream. It's at cetera and at the same time, a connotation of the unreal and the delusional. So those two things obviously working together in the book and sequence, you know, those for both of them as I say, they're deeply committed to ideas about the future and to a particular at different times, different course of events unfolding. So the idea of the the dream sequences the ideal unfolding of of their lives. Our Henry's EMMY describes film wants to get into film. You know, he's we see him doing hamlet in the West End. We noted on TV, but he's he's dream is to get into film. And he has his great idea, which is that fell MS basically, like a historical artifacts can look back into fell now and. Everyone is probably dead. And but you know, that thing would last forever. Tell me about that idea. Well, again, I guess it's version of the desire for escape and for stability is the sense that he could produce a performance that would be perfected in its cinematography. And and in its final form and would lost in exhaustively forever, in the way, that know great film performances. I mean, obviously, they're not generally not more than one hundred years old, but they lost and are revisit and have an authority, and charisma and the coach is very specific. Obviously theater has extraordinary qualities and values that people are deeply committed to. But there is something about the version of fame and the version of kind of charismatic self that cinema offers in in its deniro's in the way that people. Do impressions of you know, great scenes of movies, and quote them and live with them in their in their minds and rewatch them. This is all stuff that Henry wants because he thinks it will he will feel it and it will it will release and establish him. And so I wanna talk about the the genius film director Miguel Garcia that Henry is desperate to work for. He thinks he's going to elevate him. This is one of those European oughta filmmakers, and although of course, we are really only seeing our impression of cow Garcia through Henry's is when he actually beat ZIM works with him. He's disappointed. Yes. Perhaps not I have fairly interesting conversation that we are witness to early on. But well this partly came out comes Asians with actors that I know who have said that the people generally kind of really overestimate what directors. Give to actors in the the relationship between directors and actors often, it's extremely minimal and actors just given them arts and toe to go. And there isn't the kind of guru like working together to generate a great performance that that lots of people imagine it's a lot in the photography all in the editing, and in what the act of themselves brings to the role. So I think that is partly what is learning even someone like me gogo is not going to be the kind of ideal autistic parents that he imagines for himself. There's also there's a sequence the book where Henry goes off to film festival in Doha in Qatar and has this world this again as almost a dream world rising out of the desert that should really exist in his plaything of billionaires is built by indentured workers. I want to know why you. Went into that. Have you been to one of these literary festivals out in Dubai? Oh, I have been to Doha a couple of times literary capacity, and I was very struck by it and made a bunch of notes, and this was the venue where that material could could be activated very as a writer as someone therefore in some corner of the entertainment business, the sense that one has of existing in a space within larger economic system that is in lots of ways deeply vicious allows you this little corner of harmless play is something that I wanted to explore a bit in Henry's experienced the sense of being this little. Pixie and kind of wasteland. And London as well. Most of the books is set in London. Henry lives in an apartment in the Docklands. I just wanted to talk about writing London. What is about London? I've lived here pretty much all my life. And therefore, it's deeply kind of impressed on my senses. But I think I was interested in this book, particularly in the way that it has changed in the last twenty years, I guess in many ways for the better, as you know, for the for the user experience, Trafalgar Square is a good example of a place where traffic was has been rushed is when I was growing up. You know, it was not closed at the top. There's traffic around. It was quite an awkward space to traverse was very quite grimy nerve, lots of developments around London, which have produced these much smoother sleeker spaces to be in an as this kind of chigney glossy surface to lots of parts of London. Now that is an expression of where consuming capitalism has got to. And it's a strange bunch of sensations. I wanted to kind of record in and pay attention to often both seductive and slightly detecting. You know, you feel a lack of kind of purchase in the texture in the surface of the city. But at the same time as I say, it's easy it delivers. Tasty snacks whenever you want them that kind of thing and sort of either. Yeah. Easier to easier to live in basaltic somehow Deepak personalized at the same time. I guess that's sort of reflecting Henry's sort of the Fabian that he has the game. They sort of disatisfaction constantly. Yes. Yeah. I think that's I think he is intended to be someone who's feeling both seduction the garments of the contemporary world. And the way it's not connecting to his center. And it's not giving him away to live in itself. And he. His simply expecting too much of it and looking for the wrong things in places that offer you know, that seem to the present themselves as giving you all the life satisfactions that require. But don't to what extent I mean. Obviously as. Book shortlisted, author not obviously the extend of someone is TVs to earth films. It's what extent a you now expected to engage with this sort of always on world. Are you on Twitter, you're expected by the publisher to our Instagram feed and things like that? They don't have an Instagram feed. I'm not really expected to do those things I'm asked if I if I have them, but I'm not committed to any big way. There are some writers who've made a real art of the Twitter feeds and deploy them very well. There's a writer American writer rub yellow Modine who has a fantastic to kind of constantly curated and putting together a paintings and poems likes. Obviously, you know, part of his personality in his profile as a as a writer is manifest in that way. But it's a very unintended kind of fame. If it's I mean famous it doesn't even feel like the right word for it. You know, a few people whom I haven't met know who I am. Really? I don't think too many of them, and it's not long before I will meet them. And it doesn't in any way kind of impinge or I don't even completely unaware the thought that there are readers out there who are interacting with my work. And that I don't know about is is is really sort of out of my field of vision. I feel I live in a bunker, really. So just what one other thing then. And then I'll get to read the book for as if you would you mentioned in the first part in terms of researching Henry of talking to actors, but also the celebrity biography, and so many great ones those are. I was wondering what are the one of the books influence on this one? That's a good question. I don't think I had to hand in the same way that I have been other books a bunch of books all like feeding into it. And I'm resorting to for examples. And to excite me. I think the writing that I like generally was you know, is kept me buoyant in the writing of it. And there's some overlap I'm thinking particular, Saul bellow, Don delillo who both right urban don't delillo particularly about kind of the glossier kind of the modern urban experience and also the ages celebrity and the age of celebrity. Yeah. Written very well about fame in in mouth to and great Jones street. So they were there. I have pieces of music that I will listen to become bound up with particular experiences or particular characters and both Henry on Kristen had bits of music that I would occasionally listen to that reminded me of their. Worlds and enable me to kind of reenter them. So just get back into the mode of writing. Yes. Exactly. Can I get to redesign little bit shore? I'm now going to read the first time that we meet Henry who as I say has is in a state of anxious preparation for an audition with Miguel Garcia. The hunger was beginning to hurt three days of grinding emptiness of heat and sudden fluttering in the left side of his body the relief of small meals in the evenings moncus bowls of rice and green vegetables that he perceived so sharply his senses attuned to the rising. Steam, the warmth neuroma and afterwards, the velvety sensation of being fed that allowed him to fall asleep in the morning. He was hungry again. It was working. It was worth doing. He was becoming what he needed to be to commence Garcia who finally was in London to see him. But it would be a mistake to fast today. He needed energy. He went to his kitchen at a banana and two large handfuls of nuts enough food to relax and feel well, but not enough to dull his shop nece he at and hunter himself he dressed. He ran his hands down the smoothness of his abdomen. His body was tight his trousers hung from his hip bones. He chose a cocky linen shirt. With button-down pockets that he thought had the right? Sort of feel serious adaptable with connotations of the military and the desert Henry checked how he looked in the mirror. Henry's face was something. Everybody had to deal with to assimilate and get over even Henry when Henry caught sight of his face. He often felt as though he were arriving late at something already happening. His face looked so finished until thought if he had the approved lines the symmetry, he looked how a man should look his handsomeness could be a shock because much for him as for others who sometimes also had to process their recognition of him, their sensation of an untethered, and inexplicable intimacy occasionally Henry thought that it would be nice, warm, and relaxed and human to be a little ugly to have a face that showed personality in pouches under the eyes or large soft mouth the face of a character actor expressing suffering and Huma his own good. Looks were bland Henry thought mainstream television Hunga seemed to be improving it. It's calm masculinity. Now fretted with Sharpton shadows, Henry hood. Observed long ago that cinematic faces would not normally attractive not attractive in a normal way. They did not belong on Sunday evening television, or in clothing, catalogs, or any realm of the conventional ideals, the truly cinematic actors that is look at working Phoenix with his dark crushed stare and scarred mouth or Meryl Streep's long thin nose and subtle not quite sensible mouth, her large and frightening is affronting vulnerability all of them when you thought about it. Christopher Walken, Jack Nicholson Bogart and Hoffman Day-Lewis, of course, the actresses tended to be more straightforwardly beautiful. But then overwhelmingly so think of the wide landscape of Julia roberts's smile, an American landscape, honest, expensive full of hope no up until now Henry's face had been of the reassuring kind that made for success on TV into lack the strangeness and stringency that made for cinema. But now perhaps it was coming with age with hunger. He observed himself in the mirror. He said about bop bop. Bop, pop. Pop pop red lorry yellow lorry red lorry yellow lorry. How are you today? I'm fine, sir. How are you today? He checked his phone to his taxi had arrived. It hadn't his depth out onto his balcony to smoke a cigarette cupping the light of flame from the blustery river a worrying sound stratum fast. The cormorant flew low over the water. He should be looking at his pages. Again, he threw the cigarette away and went in. So I talked to Adam folds with talking about his latest book dream sequence which is out now in the UK from Jonathan Cape. And I'm thinking sandwich coming in and telling me about it. Thank you for having me. This episode of little atoms whose produced him presented by me nail. Denny edited by sky Redmond and was first broadcast on measurements. One. I four point four FM. Let Latham's is supported by eighty nine up and hosted by cast if you enjoyed the show, please do subscribe, raters Junes and even tell a friend. Thanks for listening.

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S5: Love: February 13, 2020: The Execution of Catherine Howard

Parcast Presents

12:58 min | 6 months ago

S5: Love: February 13, 2020: The Execution of Catherine Howard

"True crime happens every day. So if you enjoy this episode on the execution of Catherine Howard Fifth Wife of King Henry the eighth you should check out our today in true crime. podcast you'll hear a new episode each day Eh. Imagine never running out of true crime content again followed today and true crime free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts. Today is Thursday February thirteenth twenty twenty on this day. Hey in fifteen forty two Catherine Howard. The Queen of England wife of King Henry. The eighth was executed for adultery. According to her husband she broken the vows of their marriage long before she ever met him. You're welcome to today and true crime. Apar- cast original due to the graphic nature of today's as crimes listener. Discretion is advised extreme. Caution is advised for listeners under thirteen. Today we're covering the execution of Catherine Howard Queen of England. Let's go back to London. On the morning of February thirteenth. Fifteen forty two the day before Valentine's Valentine's Day Catherine Howard's alabaster skin was was even paler than usual as she was led from inside the Tower of London to Tower Green a small secluded patch of grass. It's used for the execution of nobles away from the prying eyes of commoners and spectators. She was terrified and week. It took two guards to lead her up a small scaffold onto the platform where the executioner awaited as the charges against her were read aloud allowed. The guards held Catherine up by her elbows but then Catherine collected herself instead of pleading or crying. She stated that she desired all Christian people to take regard onto her worthy and just punishment. She stepped away from the guard supporting hands then. She knelt calmly almost elegantly and placed her neck on on the chopping block. She was poised and dignified in fact she practiced for this moment the night before. While locked in the Tower Tower of London she had requested a model of the chopping block that would be used she wanted to learn how best to place herself upon it but but no amount of poise could stop the inevitable with one fell swoop. The executioner brought down on his acts Catherine Howard the former queen of England and wife of Henry. The eighth was dead. It was an untimely passing. Catherine's exact age has never been confirmed but by most accounts she was still a teenager in fifteen forty two charming beautiful and full of life unfortunately uh when it came to matters of infidelity no amount of charm or beauty could save a woman from the capricious vengeful wrath of Henry Henry. The eighth in fact one of Henry's previous wives the infamous and Berlin had been beheaded after facing similar accusations nations King Henry. The eighth was not one to take sexual dalliances lightly in other people anyway even dalliances that took place before he was in the picture Henry. The eighth was an insecure ego maniac almost thirty years older than Catherine and despite his numerous wives mistresses and extramarital affairs the fact that his new wife had engaged in relationships with other men before her marriage to Henry triggered the kings deadly vindictive temper he banished catherine to a monastery and immediately Eddie Lee said about convincing parliament to retroactively pass a law convicting her of adultery and treason as soon as the legislation was passed he rounded up the men Catherine had allegedly slept with and forced them to admit their deeds next he he had one of the men decapitated the other wasn't so lucky before a jeering crowd he was hanged hanged castrated disembowelled beheaded and quartered then the heads of both Catherine's former lovers were placed on spikes and displayed prominently on London Bridge on February tenth fifteen forty two officials arrived at the monastery where Catherine was cloistered. They collected the young Queen placed her on a barge and sail down the Thames toward the Tower of London as they floated past London Bridge Catherine looked up to see the rotting heads of her former Mara lovers. Three days later Catherine was dead coming up the misfortune and jealousy that led led to the death of a queen now back to the story on February Thirteenth fifteen eighteen forty two Catherine Howard the queen of England and wife of King Henry. The eighth was executed for adultery. Catherine was Henry Henry The eighths fifth wife at the time they married. She may have been as young as sixteen and was most certainly a lively. Pretty well liked liked courtier. He was in his fifties obese sickly and covered in poss- filled boils plus. He'd had two of his his previous wives killed. It wasn't an ideal match but who after all could refuse the king he wanted Katherine at least until he found out about the freedom of her early years. Though Catherine Catherine was of noble birth she was brought up in rather peculiar circumstances she lived away from her mother and father at Chatsworth House. A largest state that functioned more like a boarding house for noble children a place for their parents to send them until they became adults or got married in a sense. It was a lot like summer camp. There was little to no discipline and the boys and girls were known to spend time in each other's quarters. Doing what teenagers do Catherine received little in the way of education at Chatsworth but her beauty energy and spirit made ain't people take notice especially men unfortunately Catherine's first sexual experience was not consensual around and age twelve or thirteen. She was molested by her music teacher. Two years later she allegedly began a consensual sexual relationship. Hip with Francis. Durham a young man. who also lived at Chatsworth House? Their relationship continued until Catherine's former music teacher sent the teenagers caretaker. An anonymous letter informing. Her of the affair Catherine's behavior wasn't particularly scandalous or uncommon uncommon especially among nobles. It's almost certain that her former teacher was simply jealous. Petty and vindictive but there there were consequences a short time later. Kathryn moved to a different house where the story goes. She began a sexual relationship with Thomas culpeper. Though it was brief they proclaimed their love for one. Another and parted on good terms. When Catherine was called to court it an of cleaves the fourth wife of King Henry? The eighth wanted the pretty girl to join her retinue but quickly King Henry. The eighth also took notice of Catherine Howard. He began showering her with extravagant the clothes and jewellery and despite his rapidly deteriorating health and their significant age gap he began to court her though though he was still married to Anne of cleves Henry. The eighth wasn't one to let them marriage stand in his way he had his current union annulled gave gave Anna Biggest State and a respectable allowance and then took Catherine as his new wife. Still despite an inauspicious auspice beginning for a short time their marriage was a happy one. Catherine proved a capable popular queen and her youth and vigor boosted the kings spirits and health. But then her luck ran out after learning of her previous. CBS relationships King. Henry forced parliament to pass a law stating that an unchaste woman marrying the king should be guilty the of high treason the proposed law also stated that any woman who presumed to marry the king. Without admitting she'd been unchaste would would be put to death. The Act was passed on January sixteenth. Fifteen forty two Catherine Howard was convicted dictated retroactively. When offered the chance? She didn't even bother to defend herself before parliament. She knew she'd never convinced the king's men to turn against their master. She did however make one effort to save herself when Catherine was arrested at Hampton Court Palace before she was exiled to the monastery she broke free of the king's guards and ran down the hall toward the doors of the chapel. Where where she believed? Henry was praying there. She screamed in vain at the top of her lungs until she was seized. Once more by the guards hards today. Legend has it that her ghost can still be seen running and screaming down that very same same hallway. If you enjoyed this episode. Check out our episode of haunted places on the Tower of London. Thanks for listening to today in true. Crime I'm Vanessa. Richardson listen today in. True crime is a podcast original. You can find more episodes of today in true crime and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only does spotify spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you. Enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals. Like today in true crime for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream today in true crime on spotify. Just open the APP and type today in true crime in the search bar at podcast. I were grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network network. We'll be back with a brand new episode tomorrow in True Crime. Today in true crime was created by Max Cutler Cutler and is a podcast studios original it is executive produced by Max Cutler. Sound design by Kerry Murphy With Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly early madden and Freddie Beckley. 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Off The Record  Messed Up Teeth + Holding Hands w  Strangers (ft. Tim DeLaGhetto)

JKNews

20:54 min | 5 months ago

Off The Record Messed Up Teeth + Holding Hands w Strangers (ft. Tim DeLaGhetto)

"We need three two on action. Hey guys backed off the record and we talk about whatever we want and we got this guy but the main character of the ninety s Sitcom with this wardrobe or you belong on after school the cartoon show after school special rig always used to say that when I smile like look straight up he says I look like a character on that was tried to throw wallet out. No no no no cartoon proud family because their teeth disappearance one like just like a white good team. Thanks Racist Views Seventh Grade Tonight. Grade nine strayed freshman year. Yeah I'd braces for two years to from junior year of college and Senior Year of College. I remember when you had braces back back. I don't wear my retainer that much much ever supposed to wear you retain like every day every night where it's still. I did it for like the first handful. Your teeth wants to give back to being fucked on. Yeah would we use tiff in visit lime? All right now at the moment when we're filming I don't WanNa be listening a few little button through buttons. Yes they're calling the call them like attachments or button them on the inside too. Yeah that little those. Those are the inside of a permanent on the inside. Yeah Yeah keeps shit together. There's no real fucked up no gaps but shoot. Yeah but she had. We both had going up yet. It's fucked up people. Having a kid fucked up only go positive done teeth right now. You can't tell. Ya Baby Teeth so they can all be out of order and you don't really notice it but when I was there were super tiny so cute. Straight adult teeth came into her. All Jack been giving come in like baggy here. It was like if I if I could only see when I did this. And it was like aware hair so yeah it was back so I had to get yes when I got my guilt. Teeth removed one to here to one back here. We're a freak. And so like. When when I was going through the braces they had to like bring this on like back to the front and then strain it out of the was it like in the middle. It was just it was here and back into this like that rebel. Yeah he's going against the grain active fish. Those are kidding. Fucking Hellyer was pretty basis. What am I supposed to do? Y'All think it's supposed to just for your jaw. Isaac actually has the newest technology inspire them out. And it's just like a hinge like to hinges. That looks crazy because I don't know if it doesn't have his lift kept getting stuck on the wire and I'm like that's fucked up. Man was people jeans Bro. I know because of our Diet. We looked into one. Or what is the human humans have evolved to have like softer foods? We don't eat like raw things anymore. And so when they were studying indigenous people they can see that because of the food that they're eating because of the tongue posture. Even though you guys are like this is stupid but Thompson. It also like it by having your tongue rests on the your mouth. Your tongue is spreading your TV to be aligned where it should be so instead of like if you're tongues out there and they all get fucked up and also the way the foods that you're eating if they're not doing enough like eating what is it like root vegetables or whatever chewing through nuts and tough for me to Megumi's yeah we're supposed to be like using keep a bowling lifting weights when you lift weights like your bones. Get stronger to being worked out. Yeah we do yeah. It's interesting because even toilet paper is only existed for like water fucking hundred years or something different than the indigenous. No no our hands. Our hands a change so if you look at old photos of like people in history of toilet paper who won the white on white easier yeah. There has a software and shaped like all attached meager Polian. He's going inside. They had a picture like this. Because the other one's coverage you they also use them as bowl. I think he came up with the wave instead of shaking. Hands like the Barbie dolls. Because you don't want to shake hands with each other it was going to be caucus cock-up Taco. Yeah the high. The high five is actually invented after toilet paper now like Oh we can do it right. And then you're like the hand hug. How do you do that? Little Hug Warren minded minds coal cement for me to do with any other woman. The Nikki is the ship. And then you can we side by side of the head. Steve Spat Clean. That is pretty intimate though high so intimate that I think he's like mom. This is for girlfriends beholding head and then sometimes a whole on existing girlfriends and he's like no mom this for girlfriends reserve this. I'd not I feel that hose does for the family because I hold my dog like this because hers has like this. It's like hanging on the ads. Give up your finger. Yeah talking about my finger row. One time I remember being a kid I was always lemon was just everywhere. You know what I'm saying. I was never really paying attention. Anything and I was walking next to my my dad and then I guess I like zoned out because then I tried to grab his hand to hold hand and then he kept like brushing it off letting go letting go and then I look up isn't always a stranger. It's a totally different dude. And my parents or behind me cracking up. They were just watch. China hold his hand and then like him just being like a woman. Thought it was just handed. It was another guys. They're like Oh shit. My bet on the subway. Yeah just like like my hands on strangers like waste now. You're hoping it Japanese porn grams. Stop Weird Weird happens to be on. What would that happens when I'm in a room with people who look similar to Nikki? I'm always like go to ocean because I'm very happy with that. You don't do that in purpose. Do like my girlfriend actually touched them. I just I just have had some close calls around my Oh Shit Oh shit. There's there's a girl that works out bar ball. And she has a very a silhouette to her. So sometimes I'll be lifting. And then like she comes out of the Koran is nightmare. She's not even at the gym like you know she's at home with Tyco or something. I am kind of cute. Could've fucked story up Israel comes in and I'm like Oh oh she doesn't like Damn Baby. You look sexy and different all. Maybe I like your outfit today. Why are you good at I with my wife one day and I realized it wasn't my wife I was on. I was recently at a Strip club in Miami and I was getting food with home. He's like oh it's really good this trip yeah. It was actually delicious and the shit out there. Yeah it was. It was pretty pop and it was like we had like a fried lobster and rights law to Gourmet Shit. I was thinking of like chicken. Tenders or something eight. He was like either get the wings or the fried lobster and then so it was a guy who gets lobster. Hey man it was delicious different out there so I'm walking in and this girl's like I guess I'm thinking immediately like it's a fan right so I'm like. Hey Yeah Hi what's up? And she's like Oh. I thought you were my friend my friend. Okay sorry I mean this is. This is awkward trying to work you by the way the desert girl hanging out. All you want a picture and she's like sure whatever and she's like a flak explain it away like oh. I have an Internet following. God I feel horrible myself. You ever talked to people because you think your friends still walk. Yes Oh yeah. And then. They're walking like like fucking shit and someone else there that you're talking to. I actually get mad. The person for not responding to me. You realize it wasn't that yeah because I'm like you can answer fucking is is a good question talking to Astle haven't we recently? I think I was shopping or something and I thought like I was still with my friend but then she walked off and then I was just like and then I see the person there at the stranger there in like. Oh Shit I mean sorry. My friend she's over there because I was saying something pretty personal to like watching you the whole time like you don't shave. Pubic hairs. Speaking shaved saver. Thank our sponsor manscaping. And thank you for the new lawn mower three point. If you guys haven't tried you guys really should because as new boskin safe technology where? It's even safer where you will nick your skin. Especially if you're very skinny like me you tried it on your face because you don't have all scared near Boston like your elbow. Kind of your ball skin. Depending if your balls are like tucked up or it's stretched out. It was a hot shower stretch sweater. Brinkley Yeah what stretched out you get like the ball creases right like bat wings and when you have all the bat all stretched out. 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Do you want to share with you like a shaved all the way or do you like aluminum here a little bit on the Bowl Clark Shadow? Okay see that's what I was because when you're younger you important that you feel like I should shave my shit. All the way down guys don't like it. I don't know to me. It just seems like like not like a baby's smooth like yeah. Yeah like not even like for example. When when I tell the story of once kissed a girl she was so soft and tender them like Ooh I need something more rugged interest that's how it is for those so soft and she smells so good. When you're kidding you you WANNA feel the hair Brooklyn your face goal over your home. I know for me. It's not. It's not so much I actually don't mind other way I just don't want any here at all. Don't get rather it'd be completely lol like no no. That's a little bit weird but like stone. Cold Steve Austin not puberty yet joe. It's like marble down there I can do. I mean maybe it could be like a little bit zero. Yeah I feel like most girls feel that way. And then but when you're younger shave all the way you feel like girls or shaving all the way back then because you feel like. I guess like porn kind of brainwashed us any real smooth. Yeah but as I got older I heard different. Girls say like Oh no I I. I like a little bit of hair. I'm like Oh shit it's a rugged you was my my. I used to just trim and then I had an ex that like. She just shaved me all the way one day in the shower because ingrown hairs not and I was okay. I was itchy because I wasn't used to it. But I think for her if it was if it was prickly at all. She didn't and like she was on top. She didn't like the friction on. It hurts right so she would always make sure. I was like shape. It's not Nice S. dangerous. How about when you look in the balls though. Don't you like a smooth ball side? Yeah PICK IN Q. No shave balls clean but I like to grow the rest of my hair. I don't think I've ever been with anyone that has extra Harry balls enough for me to be like you need a shave that extra Harry but I think it feels smooth for me. Will you like rim jobs? Do you love that? Oh yeah read reached back there. I just feel it. I use my fingers sentences and then I I like this technique is to you. You can fucking shaver advocate. Michelle is how you do it that way. And you have to spread it. Open your fucking dribbling a basketball. I know like you gotta use your finger to check right and then you go and you fucking you gotta scrape your ass and then there's immediately there's hair on it so you got in a shower. You just keep going. I wonder if you go in front of your fucking stand up mirror and you do. Why wouldn't you know what my butthole looks like? There's always just a little bit of fucking hair. Yeah Van Horn born. Just shave for you. Does the girl is there like some kind of communication? That happens where it's like. Hey I'm getting right because you obviously to prepare your body for something that just happens you like. Hey by the way maybe I just saved my ass also carried or does she like hey baby in about five minutes. And then she's like okay and she doesn't cheers Berg she's like. Oh God okay you know how they have no strimmers. This is just like tremors. It's like the way it grows is right aura. It doesn't go on the but like inside. It's like he's up to but your household does what. It looks like Weird. How we have no okay. You like there's a ring around the asshole that's fuller hair right and if you let them with a fucker growth you're Asian. Sometimes it pokes out of your mind poke out. I wish we had Neil Tyson on the show has to give us the SCI. He's just waiting to tell us about the universe you think about it right usually like we have smoother balls and showed right it right rides up here and then it goes again up here. It's a weird area to start growing hair. Yeah Yeah. I didn't know that that some people's asshole hair gets like so much that you can. You can see it. See it with that but see it without spreading. My boy was dating this girl back like like shortly after high school and he was like man like he was the first time they were really like getting down like that. And he's like how's like taking her underwear off and like seeing some like hairs like coming out of rehearsals. Oh Shit Armenian No no no Mexican. Yeah maybe she has straight hair. Yeah maybe maybe thing. We're talking a lot like sideburn. Level taught hair. I'm Kinda scared to come face to face with my asshole. Why never seen it before? So like that's about all. I don't see myself like that for the Chevy. You should do it. You'll reaction doll put on some insects. Romantic what about? What does your niche? Oh yeah man it's like sandpaper rubbing up against each other. Why would I wanNA because I want to get my booty link? That's why you know what's funny though so in high school me and my buddy was coming home and then with his mom his mom is up. We're coming home. We opened up the door and then as soon as she goes into the bedroom she starts yelling at her husband and her husband goes shaving by us. No way he's he's basically. She was yelling at him because he was using her like shaver and clippers and all that stuff to shave his asshole. Oh yeah she was yelling at him. The Japanese and he's shaping US hold and then his friend ran into the room and he said that he saw his dad with the fucking body mirror upside down. Shaving his fucking but his mom's hair stuff no way so don't forget to Please support we can keep talking about assholes for half an hour. You don't like it you have you come face to face with your own asshole senior. I don't want what I don't see it on a regular though. It sounds like you're talking about these asshole that you've seen no I'm good you. Should we ever respectful relationship with one? Another where he respects. I respect his privacy. Yeah Steve Junior. The ever named for yours. Thank your Pena's anyone no. I don't but a girl I used to date call called Henry Henry Henry Okay. It was so silly because she was a member. I've seen in Masayuki Monsters Inc. Yes remember okay. So we're one of the monsters. They find a human sock on his back so they freak out because you have contact with humans so they can shave and shower him like they him down so he's all like all his scary. I gone as you said. My Penis reminded me of the save monster and his name. She thought his name was Henry. Henry we watched it later on. It was like I don't know just not hinder pushing ended. But she named my Penis Cooper. Sometimes you just gotTa Coupe. Why because he's bald like hanging with Mr Cooper or is the last very long cooper tires. How may I? Don't think there's know reason cooper was one of those things.

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The Walking Dead - 907 - Stradivarius

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The Walking Dead - 907 - Stradivarius

"Welcome to the watching dead, the officially unofficial podcast with walking dead on AMC Jim. I'm Erin and talking about season nine seven titled Stratovarius Iran Who is trying to various? This is a family of Italian. I'm GonNa Guess Your people. Violin makers. In the seventeenth, eighteenth century that were fairly famous for making high quality Violins and materials these violins that have survived to this day in good condition can fetch anywhere from one hundred thousand dollars to upwards of fifty million dollars depending on again at age condition. What style Stratovarius it is and they're highly prized for. What some violent as a superior un-reproducible sound this! Episode. MSA, superior un-reproducible sounds not forte but. Maybe bit of number. It also is terrible against Atanas. It's combat. Value is very very low. Crowbar would be better to have than a Stratovarius in the circumstance, but I actually I got bored. I did a bunch of reading on strata various. While you were watching the episode now. Board. After. It was I was reading on. It and I guess that like it's. It's a fairly modern contention that stratovarius don't sound any better than the high end guitar manufactured or Guitar High Violin. That's manufacturer today. There's been multiple double blind experiments of course. Purist will dispute those fax. Like she gets better, we better making things over the years and we've got two hundred three hundred years. Yeah, and then like you know that's the thing it's like I. I guess there was like some participants to special qualities of the woods that Stratovarius used and there. The little ice age caused trees grow slower and denser, and the be more resonant, but you know what we fucking x rayed these things, and then spectral analysis on them, and we can make equally dense would. and. So I keep flat pack. Stratovarius now I think they do I think they do their forty nine ninety nine. Their Bluetooth capable. So? What did you think of this episode? I thought so. I thought there's a lot of good. I think that I am a little getting a little kind of tired of how long they're stretching out. This mystery of Y. The communities have been fractured and appears to have something to do that. Shaped kidney donation scar that shown and Darryl have. And I'm also a little tired of the fucking new guys and girls, Death Jeez and their constant Lake Vacillating Concert. It's one person who's a hot head. And wants to fuck this up for the group, or maybe she's the smart. Shane one that's like I've seen this thing and we're GONNA end up in a cattle car and we're GONNA get eaten alive at the hilltop restaurant and everybody else. He's kind of opposing her, and that's getting a little old, but. I'm still the central central conflict them. I'm I'm here for I liked the idea actually of Darryl. kind of being the word or I guess hinder being the Ward Daryl and got to be raised up by them And I I think it's going to backfire on on Carol. I think that Henry might lose a little bit of his. What do you call it idealism but I think some of that's going to rub off Daryl to kind of. Get him at his Farrell. Farrel Daryl. Faiza, he stuck in. What did you think of it I? Mean definitely seems to be happening. Affect on Daryl. I mostly like it. I didn't have hugh. I I had one huge problem, but it's minor in the grand scheme of walking dead problems. but It's it's. I'm not sure how feel about them. spooling out this mystery of your Maggie and miss shown and and the scars I think the scars were actually pretty well done. Not from like a special effects angle the from a storytelling angle like they're fostering effective mystery here. With curious, what are these XS about I was curious when I saw it on my show and I was like what's what's that about Daryl? I know you can capture and and hurt Daryl. It's been done in the past sure. But why okay! Why is he feral? Why going back to nature? How Hey, if he's gone back to nature, it must have happened like after these cars. I've got all these questions swimming around in my head about an apparently it's it started with him searching for Rick which we got US remind he might do, but he's been doing it for like what four fucking years now, but if that's the case, how how did he get the scars? and and why is everybody mad at the Maggie did like? Yeah Glen. aggie mighty got in huff. Honestly I'm wondering if Jesus got appointed leader after people weren't agreeing with Maggie, and she was just like I'm GonNa take my baby and go home. Why was elected to the Glenn? Junior? Need like a double kidney transplant and she took shown Daryl's and stiffened like ran off Georgia because that's another thing that doesn't quite make sense. The fact that MS shown would not know that Maggie had left the hilltop. Yes as somebody is not telling her. City aside from being a huge gossip obviously. Kept this information from her. Just yell, so yeah, who? I don't know it's. It's an intriguing state for this at men winded a happen because Jesus has won at least a second. This is a re election. Not An election like mega didn't leave and so like. How long have we been keeping this from Michigan? Is that believable realistic like I said I'm I. AM curious, but like not that curious, and if if they stretch it out like pass the mid season break. It's GonNa. It's GonNa. Start feeling tedious for me, but absolutely absolutely, and there's a little bit of like. There's a a threat in my mind here looming threat that we might go back to a lot of mortgage servicing. If this schism is over Neagh in somehow yeah I. I don't think it is I think there's something else here with the election with Jesus with all that, but if this isn't between the hilltop in Alexandria is over Neagh in. And what to do with him. I'm going to be real disappointed. That has been going on for years and also I thought they dealt with it before this time. Jump my thought like the Maggie and Michaud scene where she's like okay, do what you gotTa. Do and she changes her mind. I thought that was all over with. So believe that it's not where we are headed. Yeah, like we've often. Was it, wasn't it like the Was it the expanse that I said there are no, it's the DEUCE. That Saint, David Simon and George Pelicans do so well because they do time jumps like every year. The do says three seasons every year at flashes, Ford five to seven years, but they do a really good job in the finale episode of like pudding characters on a particular trajectory like they have a direction and velocity so when you catch up with them in the next season, everything kind of tracks. It's like Oh this. This person was on a downward spiral and all my God. They're either dead, or they're in a real destitute position. This person was on the upswing, and now they've moved to La and doing this, whereas you're right like to trajectories that look shown and Maggie were put on before the time jump was one of like comedy coming together, and like understanding each other perspective like resolving to to make good on rick sacrifice. These do not track with the trajectory that we caught them back in after the time jump, but I'm just wondering you know. What is it what you know like how they get these scars? What is the threat of can evolve Megan because he gets in jail, I don't think involves a saviors because we founded the savior complex collapsed, and they didn't seem to be a special venom between Carol like Carol didn't. You fuckers tore out. Miss Shown Daryl's kidney and I'M GONNA. Want you dead? It was more of dislike. Yeah, you guys failed and fucked off. We haven't heard from you from a while. What is this? What is this threat? That's happening. someone go crazy was some faction within the hilltop Alexander itself. That did this I. I I I don't know. Debt, but like I said I'm I'm I'm the walking dead interested in yes? Neither weird it it. It's weird that that's more interesting than like these whispering zombies. They they haven't done much with the whispering zombies like. Rosetta in the woods which we'll talk about here in a second and they had the scene from last episode, but but it's wild that Rosetta that the first thing that she said Oh my God I've been hunted to exhaustion by whispering zombies. Am I going crazy? It's like like maybe she's out of it. She needs an ivy or whatever that like yeah. I was really expecting her to say. I was waiting to see what everyone's reaction to this news going to be. They can get a reaction because there was no news Ariza. Maybe maybe next next week she'll be. She'll be up and Adam. Said Eagle Minister her back to health. Yeah. We'll see They sent their only doctor on a away mission so. I guess not the only doctor units enid shaping up into a fine young doctor. Yeah, she's had four years of flash forwarding medical medical school right there yet boom get places. You can just dissemble. Dissect. Dissembling disassembling. Dissecting acting it, yeah, yes, assembling the human body. Johnny five would be outraged. Okay let's get into the recap. We start off with a very tired of player as we mentioned running through the woods from unseen walkers Who are whispering all around her until she finally collapses. and. That's the scene then we go to the INTRO I I get. Again I don't know anything about the storyline like I. quit reading at exactly this point yet, but. As I think it's interesting that they're essentially. It's almost like they're hunting her like with a very prim. The of you heard of like like exhaustion hunting. You know I guess this is how primitive humans did most of their killing as they would pick out. They isolate an animal from the herd, and then walk it into and use our superior. Endurance and press perspiration cooling ability to just essentially walk an animal to death on us of Anna like you walk you stock Zebra for a couple of hours, and you get within a hundred feet, and it runs off spooked. You just keep walking. Keep walking. And eventually it's heart and lungs and overheats and his collapses, and you come up there and you kill it I. Don't understand why you would do that to human and how it works so rapidly. You know I feel like Rita. That big ASS jug of water. She could've like. You know what the is for the average Zombie. Shamsul could keep that up for at least a day if not to before collapsing. Long enough to get back to civilization. Yeah, and and why? Why would you? Why would you use that hunting tack technique against the human like are these whispers zombies, some sort of Cannibal I don't know yeah, and so I know. What the whispers are! and so I can't say much of anything here because we're not spoiler section, and yes I know were two seasons. The show? Yeah, but see. I'm comfortable talking about like the the there because I don't know anything about their actual nature, but like I'm pretty comfortable saying that they're not. This is not some intelligence on be. Okay, right like I I would not is that from like this is not some new breed of Zombie that just you know, retain their brains or something or some kind of A. On B, culture so I'm assuming that that's that's my base assumption about it, okay? Let's move on to Darryl taking Carol and Henry to his trapper camp on the river. Carols concerned about him I call tracker camp because he's got a lot of kids, I'll lies tannin skins, but but I don't know where the skins are going, because he's got a Poncho. What does a man? We oncho need with skins. Yup, there, there's his boat is not covering. Animal hides his crossbow. Maybe he like making a pistol grip for the crossbow wearing boots. He's not wearing like I thought he might be wearing moccasins or something. Here's another thing. He has a stack of giant. His now, but I'm wondering 'cause they were by the fireplace and I'm like is. Darrel does reading these massive encyclopedias or books on the law? Because they're? They're not like novels or anything. They're like giant reference books like two inches thick is using that to start fires with or what, but like my notes. Daryl's camp traps everywhere. He's been reading big books and tanning hides, and he's got a dog and a boat that he hasn't fixed. But that boat is on like a small stream. I'm just like I I was wanting to know because I figured Daryl's a very smart man, and he would have a very cool place set up in his his neck of the woods, and like I'm like this some kind of a rapid zombie escape like design these catch him. He can his the other side of the Creek and get away, but that's the case. Why is it broke? Doesn't matter if it's broke. It's like thirty feet to the other side man. What's what's broke about a couple logs lashed together. Step on it. Push off the shore fifths fifteen seconds later. You're on the other side yeah. I duNno, it's interesting stuff. Good questions, he also has a dog. Which They'll do anything with here, but I. Will come into play later. The you know we. We've talked about this along for over the years, people lose their shit when dog, it's like dogs and babies, and so they don't have. They. Don't have judith seven a cooler anymore so you got a dog. Get a dog in the middle of ring, zombies and like man, the fucking audiences adrenaline jacked. So I. Guess I guess we don't know, are, are there? Any babies left like? I forgot Herschel is actually to be like seven years. He's going to be like four or five at the least. I I don't know I'm assuming there's still bay people are making babies. That Point. Oh my shown has like the toddler. Rick, Junior. I guess that's a baby. It's a pretty big baby. Hit is like I. said I think he's four or five now, so yeah, it's maybe a baby relative terms. Yeah, there's this practice. We gotTA BE Babies Maybe Daryl's making. Furlan bass nets shipping back to Alexandria. The babies throw him in the river like like Moses. Basket is floats down Alexandria. Benefactors spots baby so there you go I buy it. All right we're on the road to the hilltop. Seek Ribs Michelle for not just keeping survivors Alexandria when she clearly likes them. The new group argues about their current situation. Some are happy. Others are looking for their options here. That's a bad. Shirt. Yeah. The one of the that's in my notes that can't be right I. don't see well enough for that can't be. Zero. He were a horrible shirts that if I recall like staring into creation itself if it was Paisley Okay and they do this just so that when he shows back up later yet, this is the first shirt for the walking dead. We have seen many times them spinning elaborate back story and character detail, rich character detail for character who's going to be killed in this episode and a vain attempt for us to feel something. This is entirely uncharted territory. They're doing a bizarre colorful backstory for man who's already dead. We never will know where meat just so we can vicariously feel the horror of this. The woman to we've just barely met and got no. We have no idea what her backstory. As other she went to jail, and at some point and she she likes knives. It's at least an attempt at yeah at you know getting us to empathize with these characters, and and understand their plight walking dead, pioneering rapid rapid deployment storytelling like it's. It's like one of those pop up tents as third UNDERGRAD. Here's a here's a fucking cardboard. Stand stand out the character for you to. With fly overhead and In some plot support. You got to be precise on this call outs or might land on a main character, and he'll get blown off a bridge. So, you gotTA. You GotTa Watch. It Watch Losing Andrew Lincoln. yeah, so they've got the story about his shirt. And they asked, but the hilltop. Michaud isn't super interested in giving them details about anything. then we get to my biggest problem with this entire episode. Oh, it's. A scene where Tara is taking care of business in the apocalypse. she delivers the list of people who need a piece of Jesus. So that he can make some decisions on it. He's impatient with the process and he leaves through the least objectionable thing on the list. That's all fine. My problem here is the opening of the scene. It's got a cool drone shot. That I really liked the overhead. Seeing like all the crops that they're growing at the hilltop. been kind of building out. It's. The music. The music is like. It's this. Second Tier Christian rock band like it couldn't get a really. No, it's not, but it sounds like it If if this apocalypse music I WANNA get eaten. I don't WANNA be they're also like? Yeah, this is what Jesus. This is exit genetic. I forget the name for something that's actually coming from source in the universe like you find out that this is actually Jesus Blair and Georgie rock from his gramophone, which I thought was cool. You know something you wind up and doesn't need any electricity run Yes is a problematic in a society that is plagued by late night Kazoo session. I feel like. Please, go back and listen to this I looked at the time code. It's five minutes forty five seconds right around there when the scene. That's busy, kick sand. It's awful. It's awful. Yeah, it's bad. They needed to lay a kazoo track over this Mike that would have properly conveyed how bad this music is, but also somehow made it better in its badness. Funny. My son clean up his room last weekend, and somehow all this message found like a fucking Chucky Kazoo and he's been playing it like I hear from his room all the fucking time. We could make that happen. We could be the change you want to see in the world. We lay a sick Kazoo. Solo, track under this stuff. I enjoyed the opening shot because they had like I fucking love. Light Steam punk hillbilly tech you know, and that's what I've always wanted to see more of from the walking dead and this guy peddling what I think is a bicycle powered washing machine was just. CHEF's kiss by. This dude, this headlamps pedaling furiously, and it's attached this kind of like fifty gallon style wash wash tubbs, something like Walter White with Alva kid in acid. And he's. Peddling belt driven thing and I think it is I think he's. They're doing laundry. Put a quarter in the machine. Give you give old. The old bobby bobby the glass shine, and just telling the just on the pedal. Put on the Kazoo. Word I mean that's that's affected. Yeah I. I like it. I like it. I wonder what the like caloric. Value of the energy. He's expending washing these closes. Yeah I'm wondering if it's like more efficient to use the old washboard and tub or is, it's more efficient to like easier. Leg Muscles to paddle agitator I. Don't Know Oh yeah, get the walkers involved right. We talked about the mill last week where you can just attach to them to the washing machine. As a hell of a lot more manual labor happening at the kingdom than in Alexandria Alexan- has a massive solar panels. Alexander has a windmill frankly. Competent Blacksmith to is the point. He'll. As you want me, build a windmill. Seen a windmill I don't understand principles in which they operate. Actually. Done harder than it seems, he had some angles some good angle. Yeah, blades! Plus thinking like. How I've always wondered like how like specials massive Dutch jobs were built hundreds of years ago. How how you fix those final arms like what if a wind a stiff wind breaks picks up while you're in the middle of the construction? Like, it's not like you can like crane him up and his visit. Now like there's got to be a lot of thought. Put into that Shit. I don't know. It's probably people smart. They build pyramids like ten thousand years ago. They can figure this shit out. then we go back to Darryl taking care on a tour of his booby-trapped killing fields. He's been out here longer than Carol expected. And Henry's going to apprentice with the know nothing blacksmith, and she asked Harold come back to Babysit Henry and give them some survival guidance. Darrow refuses telling her. That Henry is gonNA to learn the hard way just like they all add to go get them. Stars at your is kid. Crossbows a snake difficulty. That's gotta be pretty hard. Yeah makes me wonder. Why does not walk over there with your machete? And this like you know chopped off because that's what's happening anyway. Yeah I mean now gets a case of. Do you want a machete or do you WanNa? Ruin it a crossbow. Bolt Yeah Yeah. Plus the challenge hidden hidden something the size of a middle finger from thirty feet away. That's moving got appeal to zero. And then the road group arrives at the new survivor's old camp. I think on the field which has been totally destroyed by walkers. They take out their frustration on the workers who are remaining. City picks up two recorders. Got A kid with Kazoo and two recorders floating community now as well as declaring that Sorry I've tried to pick up their weapons. Michelle refused to let the weapons go and also declares that she's not going to hilltop with him. that's off prison. Tad's nobody trusts anyone reluctantly they all agree to continue weaponless to the hilltop, and then head off to find shelter. Yeah, man! I thought this was shitty encampment. Like I don't buy that these people. Camped out in the middle of the open field. On Alexandrian hilltops doorstop essentially, this is less than a day's ride away and just live there. Like what was there like? Did they did they retreat to the? Cargo crate when zombies came around or like I guess that would Kinda Sorta work? But then you're trapped. You can't ever get outside. It's not like you can fight from inside that position it offers concealment, but not cover for bullets It just seemed like it seemed like a weird. It didn't feel like it. was that lived in by people for that long. Right. Whether. They talked about all communities. They've been too so. It's possible that maybe this is a pretty new setup for them, but it makes me wonder how. They even got the cargo container out there because it's not eh, there are several cargo containers here and it's obviously like A. Warehouse like a storage yard or something. No, it's just a single cargo container in the middle of field. And they said it's their rig, which I thought implied that there would be like like. Maybe they drove a semi there, but it's in the middle of fucking field in a in a ring of forests La and there was no, we rig. Yeah, yeah, so like what what? They're rig. What what are where's the rig? I don't see the rigged story doesn't check out now so I. I don't know, but it's also like I. Don't know what these people think they're going to do. they don't have the guns. It's three three on five and one of them was concussed, and the other people do have guns and weapons, and all other. You know knives and other stuff like what? What did they think they're going to do? Like? Demand their knives back or now. They clearly can't yeah like it's. It's just it's I. Don't know it's weird, but I also we saw rick and his company makes them pretty fucking. Toothless threats over. You know when they're. They're in situations like this. so I don't know. Maybe they thought they could do something but. It's just this. This magna girl to seems like she's driving me fucking crazy in arrested group to. Yeah I have problems with the new survivor's too, but we'll get there. Okay, or you know the way that the stories portraying him. The writers are Muslim. We go to. Aaron ambushing, Jackson the field Jesus kicking his ASS and turns out. It's all part of errands combat training. He's not supposed to be training like this. He's. He's breaking protocol doing it. After, they talked about how Michelle has become a bit of a tyrant since Rick's disappearance and they see a flare. Go Up and they find her Zita who says I left Eugene in a barn. And the walkers close in, so they decide to leave you gene taking busy back to the hilltop. I. What did you think about? Aaron essentially being like Kato From Pink Panther? That's hilarious and my Note Pink Panther's Jesus. Yes yeah, and also like so did the protocol. Is that about fighting I thought the protocols or something like the Hilltop Alexandrian connote cannot meet or E. I think you're right. Yeah, he's. Trying like Jesus leg when the hilltop writer show up, they seem very hostile to the Alexandrian. You know top writers right like they're very stiffly formal kind of like the starks and the lancasters during the the good old bobby bobby as like hate each other, but they have to be cordial, because that's what the Lords ladies demand of them, but There's not a lot of bad blood. There I still know what how the hell did it go back to Alexandria and hilltop of all places I. Don't know. After the death of Rick that. Knitted them altogether. But. I do like I do like Erin and Jesus I liked Aaron been a bad ass with his cyborg arm. I. DO BELIEVE WE stopped watching. They established that I know the Aaron was gay I think they established. He was married to another man. I think. Jesus revealed that he was at least bisexual, if not, if not gay as well so like I. You know that doesn't mean that that. They have to pair off just like you know it's. It's kind of cliche that if a man and a woman Arthur into situation a movie, it's like Oh. You have to be romantically entangled, but on the other hand I. Do I do I do like shipping. Do like matchy, matchy and I. Think there are good looking couple And there's a there's a fine line between rolling on the ground fighting. And the other thing roll on the ground on. I've seen the Internet video sure. So I don't know I deserve. Is there love in the air here? Jim Is there's more than Aaron. Flying through the air is there love to yeah, yeah, the half the kind of half cyborg half human love can get behind. Yeah, good staff and you know Kate Clo one of the famous gay couples of all time so. I'm playing homage the odds of that. All Right Darrell cooks a snake for Carol and Henry Henry Henry's unimpressed and argues with Carol about not needing a chaperone later that night. Carol gives zero half ass haircut as they talk about what rix disappearance means to him and why he still looking. The did she just give him bangs? Because gave him obeying. Of Banks, this is the kind of haircut. She is Katy Perry. Circa Two thousand eight haircut. I don't even know if she was a thing, but I dislike. Cut a single. Lock off your forehead. They're done per fell perfection. It's like if you put Miley Cyrus in cyberpunk game coke the haircut she would. Alright Alright cherise. Probably some some multi-colors the involve yeah yeah for sure. And then as they eat, Henry tries to get Darryl, open Ed scar drives him further away. which scars he talking about the? He doesn't notice the actual act. That's what I thought. That's like when he's A. How'd you get that scar with fuck scar, or is he talking about later on? We see it and I'm not sure if this is. You know because also there is a little. There's a pretty rough day night transition here i. feel like these scenes are out of order like I thought. Shoes or he notices the scar. I thought I thought that they might have been very loose about win was daytime and win was morning, and all that kind of stuff, and they re edited into Editing Bay, and it just didn't quite work because I have no fucking clue what scar he saw on the exposed flash of daryl that we suck because I was looking at hand like did the scar on his cheek or something that I? Don't remember now as far as I can tell. Yeah I. Don't know his face is so dirty. It's hard tell there's so many things like as Carol talked about this event that was served as the fracture between, so he kind of know, and he's just kind of starting, but that's a very personal conversation to start in on with, but there's so many other things like the fact that. You Know Michelle doesn't know about Maggie fact Amac is putting our foot down about participating in the the kingdom's fair, which seems bizarre to forbid your citizens from attending like there's a lot of things we don't know about these relationships and I. Don't know the scar scars on another weird one. Then we go back to CDC. Sleeping as shown stands guard over the camp, she hears something in the darkness, and finds the Peon I'm giving him a new nickname I i. don't know what's called. This Guy Stratovarius rummaging around for noisemakers. When he turns round, she chops his various in half, and he screams, and everyone comes running. I actually got excited because I thought she killed a dude. I know my one now. This is a fucking complication. This is this is going to be some interesting shit, because like is shown justified when he you know wake. It's Dark I. Don't want to sound too like you know. Police Police Department, he start. She told him the put down what he's holding. He had little reason for not wanting to do that, but instead of being a normal person, he jerkily spins around with this. You know dark object in his hands, and I thought she might have killed him, and like that was going to cause a real fucking Ruckus, but instead she just you know rex chameleons of dollars worth of audio gear I guess. Yes. It's Stratovarius is one of those collectibles in the apocalypse. He really have to hold onto for a long time. It's got your return. Yeah, but if you do holy Shit. Reserve Stratovarius through the apocalypse? Yeah, you're earlier year. Your family's not GonNa have to work as soon as the economy be resumed functioning. Give it a hundred two hundred years. Your descendants are going to be. Wealthy, beyond beyond their wildest dreams. I don't know what else say about this. We'll get to the the sort of. The aftermath of these actions here in a bit. It just gonNA leads leads to a Dale Watch speech is what it does. It gives us guy like you know who's been coded as like an intellectual To like spouse, and opine and talk about all the things he read in the book from Sapiens. 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You've got a man who's very capable, you're you're not gonNA fight through Daryl's boots. It's not gonNA. Even, if they were weak boots, they're so shit. Cross encrusted at this three layers. Rabbit for on the inside of that is so right. Yeah, those spongy Walker teeth or not getting through that now now the other thing is I. Love when it takes him a good thirty seconds to remember. Oh I have a second life. When his go to move, is the double knife kill? Yeah, and when he gets to his dog rescue, he sits there and tries to untie complicated, not instead of just taking the not multiple knives on him and cutting the dog free yeah. Like he's trying to teach Henry lesson here like he's hamming it up though Henry. Look at this. I can't quite reach my knife, Henry. Henry, stay no stay there. Watch me look at me. And then he worked out caroline, advance and carols, doing overwatch to make sure that don't get killed, but now I. Don't know I don't know. Maybe Daryl can make anything Zombie apocalypse except for twine. Rope he just fucking hates braiding shit man like if he can't be can't pull it out of an animal. He doesn't WANNA. Make it so rope is precious. He's not gonNA cut. He will stop the untie a dog for thirty seconds instead of cutting free it is it is, it is weird and also yeah. Carol just watching like she's seeing them. I guess. Yeah. I don't know this scene. You know it's. It's fine. It's good, even maybe I don't know. I really enjoy some of the special effects and Walker stuff. They do in this show from time to time, and this is one of the scenes like when that Walker tapers off its own foot. In the trap to get a Daryl, I. I love that stuff I'm I'm a I'm a fan of the taboo when it comes to horror and. Ripping off fetus pretty cool. Yeah, the fact that the dog's always got a hand or phillies bring back the camp for yeah share. Some of that stuff is pretty pretty good. The, other thing about the scene is at the end. You know they're. They're investigating Henry's wound or whatever? that he's Daryl Tranceiv he's okay, and he says it's just a scratch. Or just a scraper something unless number one kid. If you'RE GONNA, learn anything. You'd never say that Zombie movie. Because you're dead. You're dead. He's got deadman's foot. He's he's a goner. In two episodes per year either dead or Daryl's GonNa GonNa throw a piece of twine around your your knee and take your leg off right below, you know. He's GonNa. Giant shed her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah but he might he might lose it all like Jim from the first. Season Yeah I. you know. He thought it was scratched to look where he is. Is. Is a circular shaped the scratch in the form of teeth, but sure Yeah Jim. Says the scratch. It looked like a scratch to me. All right Jesus asks how Rosetta is and Tara says shall be fine to brings up the fact that she that he Jesus has been avoiding the hilltop, which is not great considering he's been the leader of the community. She didn't give him a speech over. When here needs him? But really really I think we all know. It's bad desired address as an Elf at the hilltops, upcoming Ren Faire Oh. Yeah, she's. And then she had forbes him that she's going out till in the morning to look for Eugene. Of Rin Fair arena. Is Walking Dead GonNA, try to pull off a non laughable ren fair. I actually think I hope they don't I hope? It's just a total rin fair with the News Iq and. Jerry and his swine quilted armor and they got the recorder. Yeah, they're going to have all. They're gonNA. Show up for all this stuff. And it's GonNa, be it's GonNa? Be fucking amazing. It's going to be going to do some jousting with these fucking spears the by the BMX. Armor I think it's definitely GonNa be just like that. is going to be dressed up like fucking WHO's the Robinhood Lady? It's not lady Elaine as from Mr Rogers Gwynne area maid Marian. Maid Marian. I, think Jesus in this. This leader and also I think it's funny that he's is called the hilltop leader. It's not the president's not the governor. It's not the chief. It's just the leader. That's a fucking generic as you can get I think Jesus wants to same deal Zeki got. Like! I'm just a figurehead I. Go out there I. Inspire People with my Kung Fu and my awesome hair, and my cool beard, and the fact that my name is Jesus and I look like Jesus and I tell people that follow the golden rule and Tarit does all the work like the Ezekiel I don't think Ziegler does shit except for make make stunning pronouncements to people and inspire them to good and I think that I think the Jesus Jealous of Ezekiel. Okay. He wants to Zeke deal and he's not getting it. He's getting the administrator deal and he doesn't want it. I wouldn't either that's just. It seems tedious. And there they're dropping a lotta crumbs here about the the dispute between the hilltop in Alexandria. Just you know with. I don't know Jesus like avoiding being here and to keep the lines of communication open, implying that if it wasn't for his out of protocol, efforts, there would be no lines of communication. And like I said it, certainly not above the walking dead to. To backtrack on a lot of plot and say no, we're actually going to be addressed the same thing we address last season. The just from you know five other characters per speakers. Yeah, I need to see the blacks perspective on all this right. What is what does he feel about the rift between Nagin and Maggie Michaud? I've. What this. What a substantial bogle think about a competent, highly proficient, impressive Bogle that showed up out of nowhere like I needed. I need to see this character drama like shabby shook. She got me shook. Was Daryl gotta think when he comes back in suddenly the bow? Women are better than he is. Yeah, you gotTA. fucking crossbow like I can I can. I can shoot these things like fucking legless. You're taking. Thirty seconds to reload old man. Get outta here at your with your one shaved lock. Yeah, go go, go make a pony, tail or something. I can't buy bags are going. Just like all ponytail and then one flight. Tickets his forehead. It's got to be miserable. okay, let's let's move on I well. I. Guess I am so looking forward to seeing this Renfrewshire and action. Do you think we're GONNA? Get this half season or we're GONNA have to wait another ten man. It seems ridiculous the to keep the fair from, but like yeah, like this this whole thing with the whispering zombies and the mysterious. Ex feels like something that like it would. If you're GONNA do the renaissance. Fair you're either going to do it at the mid season finale, climax or the real season finale, so I feel I. We might get a lot of late season. Mortgage ising between the various hilltop, Alexandria, kingdom rift between the fucking new guys and girls like I think there's there's GonNa. Be a lot of. Pacing in place, but it could be pleasantly surprised because they haven't done anything with his whispering Zombie stuff. There's also the idea that you know Maggie's off Georgie doing something cool You know because she's filming another TV series now. I I'm I'm I'm kind of all in for it and I can see that there's a lot more plot at hand. Then there is going into most midseason things, but still still nine episodes. Where's his Ren Fest? Going to drop? It's GonNa. It's GONNA yeah. The we go back over to Henry noticing. Daryl scars which we think was supposed to happen seen ago. And Henry's able to convince Darryl that he come back to the Kingdom because Carol misses him. Essentially, that's all there is to it. Yeah. You also says that Darryl mentioned something also interesting. That seems to be more and more walkers of late. How is that possible I? Do that's what I've been saying like. Where the fuck are all these things coming very? It's got gotta be related to whispering zombies like they're. They're leading them or using something. Because yeah, we're late in the apocalypse. I I don't know how Zombie Science work. Don't zombies eventually kind of wrought into complete ineffectual -ality especially in a damp environments like. Swamp or this is this is this is Washington, which is famously a fucking swamp I would imagine yeah, during those those hot summers. You'd really you'd really degrade but I don't know. I guess you also like. Is this going to War Z. situation where you've got like hordes of Canadian zombies migrating from the the north after winter. They, have a whole bunch of dry dusty Central American Zombie shambling up from the south. When when you know migrating, they're like I don't know, but it does seem like what were were five to seven years along. Like some of that stuff should. They should just be able to move. Their heads are so soft now you can penetrate them with a wrist rocket. Yeah, yeah yeah like step should should be smashing some of these bones every once in a while you can just pull your foot off by tugging on it against the loop like these things are Jello Jello Jelly heads. That's a new name for the walkers. And that's it goes. Jelly heads, Sickos sickos yeah, everybody gotTA reinvent the fucking wheel every group every group, because the the writers of the show enjoy coming up with names I can see some regional differences like Pop Cola soda you know but like seriously. The national news cycle right and there would be a standardized way of talking about the. Dumb, fucks Zad heads. Isn't that job one for Georgie? Like? Hey, we gotta get on the same page about what we're calling. These deals like walkers debtors rotter stinkers. Sickos, what are what are we doing? Fighters fighters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we gotta get. We gotTA. We gotta get on the same page about this. Yeah take first steps towards society. Come together on that at least. all right man frets over his destroyed Stratovarius. and goes on a tear about how homo sapiens and the Thal halls bonded over forty thousand forty thousand year, old flute and Mick. Unites the world machine is moved, but decides to go ahead with the plan as she sees them in the morning, as city spills the beans about Maggie leaving hilltop before being interrupted by herd of walkers. Shown is forced to give the new group back their weapons and. This group who got overrun and Lost Bernie, or whoever the hell that guy is is now suddenly super competent crack shots with their slingshots until their old friend show that was a Walker Maggie down and they escape. Yeah this this is the problem. This is the believability problem I have with this new group, not being able to withstand an attack inside their cargo container. Inside the rig and yet when they're given weapons, they're shown to be extraordinarily bad. Asses. Yeah when I have a hard time. You know. Just bring those two concepts together in my mind that they can be bad assets, but also overrun by a measly amount of walkers. The we saw in the in the scene where we I noticed them or First Marine traduced. Eight. Walkers round. It wasn't that big a heard. Yeah, I think you. You're right and They could've done a better job. Established in these characters like if we saw like you can tell the story of bad asses are just being overrun by sheer quantities like you know. Highly Competent Bo girl could have been on her last Arrow. The the very highly common erase. Rocketeer could have been on her last rock They could have Obviously. They had someone who's wounded with them. I was slowing down like they could have done a better job at shown to. These guys are competent. They're just at the end of their rope. You know and we've seen our group. You know the time and time again in those situations, so NASA a statement at the last minute. It's a weird to have them being in very poorly. Almost read machete. Style like Walker Melee and then then yeah, sudden sudden upgrade incompetency. Way You could have done as you get told the story of like I. Don't know how Bernie shambling out. Galvanize them into action like you know they're. They're kind of like hobbits they're. They're all kind of helpless, but then they see one of their comrades died and then. They get after daggers and their frying pans and start going to work, but you're right, not not totally buying how fucking amazingly competent they are, but that it does make sense anyone that survived this long at this point you know we're. We're all fresh out of the season for season. Five Alexandria were just drinking fucking. Candy wine behind a cold rolled steel. Don't know how to fight zombies like they all should be this competence, baseline and I. Think like the writers realized that somewhere along the way they're like Oh i. don't even know if they realized that that should have been the case from the beginning and oh. We maybe should have made that same better It feels like a weird backing into lake. or a lack of consistency in the storytelling like they want this group to both be so endangered that they have to put themselves at the mercy of Alexandria, but also they want another group of bad asses And They Ha. They do not do the work early on in the season. It that is required or last episode is when we met them in the last episode. They didn't do the work to show us that both things could be true. Yeah, I agree They did exactly what they needed to do. For the the story beat, they were going for in the moment. Without any regard toward what they wanted to do in the future, and I feel like that's one of the walking. Dead's biggest failures is failing to lead into the stuff that they wanted to do later on. Yeah on the other hand this season. This half season is way better than previous seasons in the last few. Years. I've watched walking dead, so it's like I don't want harp on it too much, but yeah I think you're right I, think they I almost wonder if they knew that they were going to do this time. Leap like if this was something where like they had a cast mutiny where Andrew Lincoln's like fuck. This I'd I'd WanNa. WanNa be here at the half season Lauren. Cohen's like Oh. We can do that well. I got another offer. Put me on that gravy train to because I felt like they were wanting to build around like Maggie and Daryl and like Jesus and Carol. Like some of these like previously be tear, have them take take the step forward, and then something might have happened, and they were scrambling the kind of like figure out how to deal with that because yeah doesn't just isn't didn't feel like that. Was the plan Phil Berry Hasty and I? Don't blame him too much for that. You know like losing A. Starring actor. Is tough thing for any show to deal with. and. But a show also that his ten years in. At this point Ogden no or eleven years in at this point audit have contingency plans for the her right like a we've got A clause in your contract. If you're reopeing upping for the eleventh year, we've gotten caught klausner contract. That says if you are wanting out of this. You have to come back and film your. X amount of episodes or death scenes, or whatever as we can't just have, you've leaving and decide that you know off season and were just flocked. Yeah, maybe the clauses five episodes. Yeah Yeah! They got the damn five episodes and that was the. Absolutely, You've. Noticed this, but when they are fighting, these walkers In. As little area with all the warehouses in Karzai's off. The walkers in the background that are just like completely docile like. They're being attacked from every side. Walkers are coming in as ferociously as you can. Imagine until Bernie shows up, and then Bernie does like his fifteen minutes of fame here and the Buick half or something yeah, and the other. The other walkers. shambling around the background doing nothing, they're whispered. Give him his space this moment and He's obviously this sure he's obviously imported. Also like how tenderly miss shown killed him 'cause when she goes behind that big sort of my oh my God like magazine. His blade come out of his mouth, and she's GonNa. Lose our fucking shit but like miss shown. Killed this guy like a lot like an ex love. Like just like the most tinder, just just put the tip. Just just did the old just the tip trick with him and and and good night sweet Zombie Prints It was actually kind of. Cool of her because I think she could really traumat- traumatized prison if she wanted to. Absolutely and I also love these fucking wrist rockets, man I got I bought a couple of days back for camping trip like tint six years ago with my son and his friend so much fun, and like I also think they're probably route like really super-efficient kids. Zombie killers especially of the like you. You Know Pumpkin ripe. Sun Ripened Melon heads zombies that we've gotten these these recent years. Yeah, yeah, you can play a whole it like aluminum cans with them. Why? Why not put a hole through Zombie head? So I thought. That was pretty cool and again. This is the first leg I think really competent Bo, Persson. We've seen on the walking dead. She's like fucking legalizing it up A. Name is you you curie or something like that? Yo Yo Yo. Yo Kita. I don't know any of the new groups. Actual real name Anna. Matt Magma's deal. They WANNA know for sure magma yeah Magna maximum prison. That was a bit of a hot head. I wouldn't be surprised. Liquid hothead magneto. all right Carol. Wakes Up to find Daryl packing for the journey back to the kingdom. She's pleased. She's Very Ri-. There's because they're. Daryl and Henry thought they got away with something. And you don't pull something on. The, the APEX MOM. You know. Your. Push it over on her. Show all that stuff down, but but yeah her knowing smile at the Darul trying to play dumb about what happened last night. It's pretty good pretty good now it's great. I Love Carole and I specifically Love Caroline Daryl. She's like I. Would this long hair. She's a halfway to be in like a Stephen King. Character like she seems like someone who like has ancient arcane powers, or she's there to show up the cleanse your house of exorcists. She's got. She's looking mouse of exercise. Outta here we don't need. This is what is it poltergeists? Yeah, he cleans your house a Catholic priests so then. She didn't make room, so she can get rid of. The poltergeist got the crease. Don't got shit on poltergeists. They're more of a demon guys, but now I feel like she's both mythical and mystical, and I'm and I'm I'm digging. It Dan it. Over under a midseason. dreadlocks on Carol. By need another season on those okay might need another season. I'm waiting waiting for him. So, then shown, and the the group continue onto hilltop, as Michelle sympathizes with with new comers over the loss of their friends. Still she sticks to plan and leaves them to head back after asking CDC a few more questions about Maggie. However a couple of very serious dudes right up with a message from hilltop. They have Rosetta. She's been injured. Show decides I'm GonNa Company, the new group hilltop to deal with that situation well. This is the scene where Michelle and finds that the Maggie's gone. She actually has often Georgie. Apparently, the the lady with the to sixty service say that they do yeah. Yeah, she's not Georgie some far away. Place another compound, trying to work to make the world a better place, which I find fascinating I really wish we knew more about this kind of like new emerging central government maybe. The key to the future people like that that seems like a solid set that I'd like to know more about. Hoping, we get there. It is so is that why Jesus is? Listen to these Georgie records. Is He less reminiscent about the times when he was there to help him out? Yeah, and also like he's like man feels like magazine gone forever and just like just left, because also like Jesus like Terry marks like. Are you ever going to move into to Maggie space? Like? But he's working, and like the reception area outside I think the the governor of the the leader's Office I wish. I wish I knew more about the situation in the time line but there to spoon spoon it out real slow. So everybody thinks they hear something in the woods, but it turns out to be nothing. Oh, I bet I bet. It's it's whisperings hobbies. Yeah, I mean obvious. The house brings up how the girl would be the one that detect the whispering zombies man. I'm pretty sure. She heard or saw saw something in laws. Thing I saw something move. You know it would not shock me to see the walking dead lean into the idea that she has some supervision powers. Like a reverse daredevil right right? Now, not shock me at all. Okay for this show. Why Not can we talk about? Maybe the most ridiculous thing I've seen on the walking dead win Aquaman and his pro prospector buddy shameless right out of the mist on this road. We have fish scale armor, dude is at Rock and who made it? Did he find this? Was this natural history Muslim? Saying that's what the that's only armor. They could find the bring back to the blacksmith, but it also weird since winded hilltop have nights. Like she looked at him and instantly said you're from hilltop, those fears you're from hilltop. Why the FUCK YOU ASSUME THAT! Why wouldn't you say from the Kingdom because to me? They look like kingdom. Guys like with like you know now. They got metal armor, and said like just saying like. Why are they still weren't around his plastic armor like Shit, man like can't you upgraded that like? Find some fucking corrugated aluminum or whatever bolt that stuff on there actually doing it I. Don't know. Maybe everybody's on his. That's that's why Alexandra doesn't want to go the Renaissance Fair. They're just like you know what I don't do this night. Shit! I can't with armor. They've got Fran. We're more about the software side cotton than we are with your rigid fucking body armor, and we can't do it. The spears horses so fuck off with your flutes and your gestures, and your winches not GonNa do it. Turkey legs I want your damn. Turkey legs. Your giant ears buttered corn. Yeah that's what they're doing all the skinning. He's not set up a booth. Oh yeah, genuine genuine. The District of Columbia. possum skins, who's who's the glass blower of the community like making the little glass and Blown Dragon WanNa say I can see you gene Eugene Huerta, Gandalf hat and like twenty shirt. He's sitting there in front of his blow and he's holding court and. You know explaining into process with thirty words when five do yeah yeah. I can totally see God. I can't wait. I can't wait for this. It is guaranteed to be awful. I hope it's like one of those things. Down Abby every once in a while, we'll do like They had the Christmas episode and was Ridiculous Fan. Service and you know I hope they go that like it's a whole hour of just a Rin Fair. Yeah, we get to see everybody. We get to see everybody stick. We get to see the Games. We get to see the jousting Ezekiel's holding court with Carol Up. There Turkey leg one hand. like a I got to see all this. I got to and the biggest conflict is like. A Robin. Hood men in tights or frankly robinhood. Yeah, you know where the got the archery contest right Marie. Ever this to you know. Standard Bullshit be substantial. Conflict, not substantial girl versus highly competent girl there you go, yeah, and Darryl comes in and splits everybody's eras down the middle. Disqualified because he can't use a crossbow right, but he does it from like seventy yards and I. See yeah like he doesn't from. Its, tournament legal, but you have to cross bill. You have to be twice to distance the the count. Yeah, so they're fifty paces. You got be at one hundred all right God. This, so so bad they set up like a perfect storm of Shitty rid fair for me and my mind. Almost certainly cannot deliver on i. that's what I'm saying like. Also, how does the Super Bus fit into it? The super. Yeah like like. Throwing a Renaissance Fair that involves three buses welded together. I gotta I gotTA. See you got to see you're right. We are actually getting our hopes up for this show. It's a bad idea. What are we doing? What are we doing? It's going to, did you? They're going to. You're going to roll up on the fair you're. GonNa see king. Hezekiah was big rain fair welcome to the kingdom's Ren. Fair it's GonNa fade the black and then six years later God. Yeah. That's what they're gonNA. Do the other Flash Forward Judas going to be thirteen. The Negro be inexplicably the leader of the hilltop. They won't explain it for another eight episodes. They'll have a question. Mark carved into his back. Because who the hell knows or how three he'll have three PS just to get the heath he ought. To. GET LOANS TO. Pay I'm thinking about he wasn't. That was on his key card. Just to bring that mystery background yeah okay. Fly It on a helicopter with Rick and dislike. We'll have a whole other like what the fuck is going on right episodes. And then I guess we go to the final scene here where we're at the hilltop finally Henry Wonders. If enid is going to recognize him, he's clearly got a crush on her He didn't like twenty three now though she's got to be yet, so she was like four teenage. Six years ago. Yeah, they were fourteen to sixteen. Yeah, so she's got to be an early twenties and hinder I duNno, it's eighteen. No. Hitters fifteen it's going to be a real Anika Anikin PAT base education here. I mean it's apocalypse age right like a strewed, no rules. No cordial on to say this is predatory. Well see what kind of court of Law Maggie setup. Shadow protocols are being are being violated here. Sure yeah, I have a feeling. It's not gonNA. It's not gonNA be. It's not going to resemble what we know. In our modern society. You know I do think it's. It's cool that like you know. Despite all the conflict and stuff and I made this a small concern to that. At the end of this episode, you got the real sins with the music play and everything that the gang's back together. You know like maybe it's GonNa take. A, while to figure things out, but like when in Darrell Aaron Jesus Tara's mind, they're still a team. and they're gonNA. Take. They're going to take business whatever the problem is. We got the gang back together and we're going to be. We're going to be just fine however, the problem there is. That's GonNa take all the dramatic tension out of it right. Yeah, you've set giant conflict between the communities and the community like if there's no rancour amongst the community members themselves than like what kind of beef do you actually have? It's a personal beef between shown Maggie. Who Cares about that? Would, they quashed. Let two episodes ago. Yeah, yeah, I mean. It's clearly flared back up in the last six years or so. Maybe, there's are there people run around those on their back? And this is some kind of demented post. Apocalyptic Warrior tribe to try to force them the plane human tic-tac-toe. Oh, yeah, it's like a Hollywood squares situation. Yeah, so the as and BS XS and Os. And Circle takes the square. All right I'm done, you got. To recap that see, but who gives a shit. D think they gave everybody follows dog off. Do you think they gave? gave the dog a pair of jeans, dirty socks or something, and he's just like smelling him for miles away. I'll think even needs at the track them. Yeah, yeah, he's you can. Smell has a unique unique pungency that the dogs can track that mullet does just generates its own juices in stews. Boy. That's it. That's it we're going to. We're going to go off on a mission. Try and find Eugene at the end of this episode. Is, are we. Is it the mid season finale next week? Oh. Shit is ninety seven, isn't it? Yeah would be I. There's no way we're GONNA. Get the Renaissance Fair at the end of next week or dreadlocks. Yeah, Iraq's going to have to never flash forward. But, WE'LL SEE! We'll see Hopefully you'll join us there. Please feedback to the walking dead, watching dead above move dot com because we are after the. I haven't actually seen how much feedback we've got. We might consider it at the end of nine eight or we might, if we have enough of it, just do a little mini feedback. Episode Inbetween before we start resuming on season nine so look forward to that. I actually am kind of interest I. I can't wait to see how they cl- because they usually try to do something big. I'm very curious to see what that something big looks like. In this context. windy, they will see Maggie again. Next episode or now no, because they're going to look for you gene I. I think it's going to be the next half season before we see her. Okay okay because I thought maybe 'cause like you know. She didn't have to do much filming this. Maybe they had enough time that they could get her back for the next season Yes, they do that. They split filming on that stuff so so maybe I don't know. I'm thinking. What do you think you're over under on episodes until we see her again as we're wrapping wait till the end of season nine or early in season season ninety yet. I don't think you can go the whole half season without seeing her. I think we're looking at like. Seeing her within the first one or two episodes of the next of season nine be. I'm interested in how they do because i. that's GonNa now that you've got everything split up between the three communities. It must be hard to split over and screen time and get around to everybody. I know that something on a large cash show. Sometimes people get cranky when they don't get their scenes and lines, and like Brasilia's until these last episode, we didn't see her at all and zero nine, so I'm curious to see how they continue to balance the screen time and the dialogue and plot weight, and all that kind of stuff, especially with all these fucking guys, the Goddamn half a strategy stratovarius doing nobody any good. Turn into a loot. They're going to modify into loot. Lute before the fair. I sent an email to watching data. Bob Dot Com. We'll be back next week with the mid season finale until then I'm aron object have a great week.

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"Get I fox. Eight is done of Sigma Time Mike. Gosh it's been an absolute while I end the coach as always and my co-host man who's been absent for the channel for months now but has been resurrected from the dead like any good Ozzy Osbourne Rape Baldwin Blacks it is shuttle. Get I get I get a Heo longtime knows. Say and still longtime dude. It's been a very long time. I think last time was probably Cancun. Now did we that practice game with you mrs around. Was that before camcorder off the Cancun last before Cancun. And that's when she realized that this is a very addictive thing. Yeah so it's been a good three full months Caesar's age. Yeah Yeah pretty much. Yeah Sunday right. How did what's going on in the world. Laham huge life changes one started a new job actually new jobs but one job is connie on hold and and I started genie. So it's been during like uni life and work life and Yeah it's been busy super-busy busy but when my here young man just working hard or hardly working depending on how you look at it and lots. Lots of happened. Obviously can't con- we. We had such an amazing weekend. Then kind of. I won't talk about this. Obviously in in the topic of the Charlotte it's been working to be an inner fighting survivable putting on immediately gear and guide to the shops looking for toilet paper and holding off the the disease. Ridden folks to get myself some hoster. Some rice that no man. It's been good at some. Obviously some changes that have happened. I'd have to go around coated but just keeping ourselves safe keeping myself mentally and physically and emotionally. I think physically. He's been the pop. It struggled Davar since James and yet it's like now booming phase. Me Kind of life is normal in kind of settled in just in the routine of the gnome uncomfortable. It still frustrating. But it's at least noble. Yeah I understand that like I think when everything started locking down and stuff like I was just working I was like okay like this is normal for me kindly but then everyone else is just like all like saint people working from home and stuff. I'm like okay. This is like whole different ballgame which has been good so yes. It's been weird. Hey like I I listen was Stein to go to the gym and then like when this whole thing happened. I was like cool. That's definitely happening anymore But yeah because when you gains so many gains I literally legitimately vitus needed to like build core strength because I have none 'cause of May sitting on a chair for like six years thanks to my job so you think good. It's been really good. I love What's happening in the world? Hello everyone who's Joining us live on Youtube facebook and get IDA everyone who is joining us on replay on the podcast as well so It's great to have you guys. It's been a long time since we've done this. I think the last show that we did. Liam was We did post-cancun wrapped up with James Page in his award-winning tournament essentially St- That Causes Controversy Prefect Cube Long. He's still deserved. The victory to go seek swings on the walls. Launched events still deserves recognition. So Jimmy. I even no matter what like even if like they said nausea compli. That sense Boko or anything. He would have found of army and like did the math. And this is going to win That's James Page. Like hundred cents so nothing think it really mattered like if it was the Faq on non it was just like no matter? What the rule states was he was gonNA find a way to do well. Sorry yeah and I think that shows what had some Internet issues. Technically a law show is before Congress. Useless that short. Sorry Yeah I look lost. Change man like I'm seeing some people in the chat. You know I do really feel bad Some people have lost their jobs at particular time on one particular person you know. I had to cancel adept to convince wake identical on Mid West meltdown. Sol's going to America in July but unfortunately that's not looking very good Flights kind of forced me to make a decision in the next week or two. But I know when I make post on twitter A few people you know not only felt sorry for me until I lost a job in my shit Festival problem that I another country and play with my wall when people have lost their jobs in the context of obesity are very fortunate. Very lucky. Feel sorry for anyone who has been pleading a position at risk waste With their roles will they've lost their roles that I have you. Have you land on your feet and you find a great opportunity as well so? I think just ignoring data's well it is tough and this probably caused Ties in nicely with the topic is that we are all going through a really tough time right now where we're not hanging out with job. We're not seeing each other. Where not being able to do the things that we normally do. Whether it's being active whether it's hanging out with our friends go to nightclubs you'll seniors and I think you know being oscillated and physical isolation heartfully notice social isolation and. I think we've gone through over the last couple of months and I think this is the at least what I would like today is what can someone take away from this if they are having a tough time Yeah it's it's a crappy time but it's like it's the best way I can describe it at the moment like describe it at work today. It's just like a nightmare. That will go away on hopefully soon. It's going to be here forever so once this whole nightmare evolve upwards from there And I think everyone's GonNa lend something from this as well. I've learned a lot and I know that I'm one of the lucky few. That still is able to work even on the Front Lines. Kinda like not as in the medical comment but like an a retail where. I'm like dealing with people every day. Who May or may not have Measures but I know it's rough notes tough but I'm it's the thing we've been talking about today. It's also community side. Which will talk about how. It's going to be helping people coping with stuff like this chat. Well you know the foul charge we can. We've got into full gaming. We've got autumn. We've got dake. There's a lot of things that we're all missing. I'm sorry before we get into that topic. Maybe let's acknowledge what actually happened over the last couple of months anything. That's excited you anything. That's big that's happening. You're weld Are you excited about any of the the recent reveals that Games workshop has put out I know we've got one coming next couple of days. Well so I'm looking forward to that one. I think they've one thing. I'm lucky like super excited about is the does the cat will band those models epic and also I'm excited for this engine of an object burn repo axe. That was posted trying to find a day that was posted. March thirty first yet. My study. That looked awesome I'm not a fan of the luminaries but I know other people. So that's I'm excited to see how they plan the table. That's what I'm excited about. See how they look get. I will machine and they got a lot of people in the chat by the way. So what's happened? So what have we had so We've had some Releases or at least some reveals. We've had the luminaries we've got our son's a Bam off we've had Of the doors of caine wouldn't end We've had a room that looks like an L Seok burn rate. By and this week we had what looked like a storm cost Or at least some form of comments that is related to something in Auto Yup. I I recognize a witch hunts a chamber with the quote me on that. But that's why I'm kind of hoping it is awesome to save like a whole thing about killing wizards since this whole edition like a two point is open about magic so said off it's actually Bahamas so apologies to Iowa's thing was out there. I don't know what to say on shoulder. Goggles will stop. May If if I did that again I love being released voted the Sarah on Donald Trump is. Well that's come out and benefit you'd still zones. Are Hot nece in that book or at least one area like that. They're also salamanders I think are legit. I saw Darren Watson is building out a list that included the Bartman. To take his salamanders around the board which is scary as hell. That man is on another level. Okay Okay Yeah. I'm I just when I read. The rule so salamanders like That's cool But Yeah I'm I'm Kinda Sad. The 'cause the Seraphim booklet came out and then like awaken a bit later. It's like locked out so I haven't been able to have any practice games with like them to say like how they actually play but at the moment is currently just steering it out working out Mike when this is a Lotta turntable and just learn what I've missed out say. I've watched this week. Probably two or three reports on a lot of people ages think Mommy's is poisoning that we haven't talked about as well is Visit game on steam to Computer Computer Gang Colt tabletop simulator. That has been abused by different. Gains will have the well various games and some crazy people on crack who built agency MOM model mode that allows them to actually plays people who've gone out there and built. advocated for scenarios mission tax with a different spills. The Wall Scrolls. It's pretty crazy and I saw two gangs of of the edge of Serifo this week one was against Zetsche while was against. Maybe it was a it action. It was a gentleman who's actually GONNA be on my action focused this week. Cameron King absolutely annihilating with some of the deadliest tickets coming out of Sarah Phone. So He's been using still a dunk visas. Finally enough is not using a basilica is using missile and some reproductive. Awesome Tara Tara on turn on those couple of games I think maybe some chameleon skinks to to hide on the the the terrain pace to give them really sixty baugh fed Other the other thing he owns yes they like. What I've been doing online is playing the underworld's online respect cool like that like when on the world's first came out I love that game and then as the game progressed. It was a seventy cots so the fact that it's been on linesmen good just to kick back into get that fix so you definitely jump on table. Tops simulator. Been hearing some things about especially during these times that we have I've said mine up and One of the gentlemen in my code rocker is gonNA teach this weekend on how to actually solve. You'll have my team by multi in so I built that my glimpse by army. She going to teach me the fundamental mechanics of the game. A it'll be a nice way to kind of talk more about these shows it'll be. It's a nice later. Play around connecting agency ball with physically able and given. We don't know how long we're going to be away from It might be something that's going to help us. At least in the middle ground is one hundred percent replace agency by table. But it's a nice replacement if this locked out is going to be for a while. Yeah like I just pretty much pretty much. Get that fixed but we need with the plastic crack. But I'm just trying to think of any other news. I think the big one is just the high heels the thing that's the big Mama's coming out but it was lucky we had that video we had Three different Showing off on public. This weekend I might actually show some of the models. Say showing the crack in the siege. In the sage break out. And there's like three different ones so I think that could be really cool. I know I'm forty three gardens that she'd be on the way these wake wake even got my old my old gog that used to come from the dogs of Wall. Guy With the big rock you'll be being brought into the ocean freedom. Love Our J. When when rob sons goes after his always been a Galkin player? I can at least say the couple of all the I'm not. I'm not such a filthy Yes I a Heller. Hot Player from the past three hundred tonnes up there. A whole bunch of wizards. I'm GonNa Ban y you know where I'm at. I'm a bandwagon stuff happened. I think fundamentally we've had a lot of changes a lot of cool stuff we've had things like adept akon cancel. We'VE HAD SOUTH DAKOTA TAKE cancelled of my season cancelled. I think I was really fortunate to play it. The Lost Age Seek Marvin in the weld or at least around that time which was out a sight. Jj The WOOLCOTT started to collapse in started kind of going to walk down off the meat much holy well chat gone crazy people laughing And so he will painting six coggins And in talking about how amazing tabletop simulator is a might put into channel description Instruction Guide that I got given then. I'll happily shave people. WanNa jump on a tabletop. Siham am I jump on that after this to set up my does a King List but fifteen twenty bucks. You'RE GONNA pay for the game. Tabletop simulate up that they want the game the monster frigging you just plug in the mall to the different scenario is different tables that the different armies. You've got any kind of build out through the months leading together and people are putting was the very Margalla game. Format looks and feels like I think by truly does The first game will to take an extra hour or so that you are learning a new mechanic but once you kind of got the mechanics down. You can things around pretty easily. Econ speeds up a little bit as well. The dice economy. It's it's it's good. It is good. I'll Fully acknowledged that these is good in. Its can help us get continue being positive. Yes sick I yeah. I'm Kim to check it out. I haven't played a game since the Waco Cancun had like. I think it was Chris Welfare and it was from. What are they waited and I think it was my acc list that. I was supposed to take in August and it can offer. I kid you not often that game literally the MOLA NATIVE FROM ABC. Listen and now down to starting a new. I want to call that. Come in here and it's a nice little sake way. And he's Austin he's mentioned that it's the best time to do real hobby And I I've actually kind of looked at this time and instead look a binding really near a lot of the stores. That closed A continental so. I've been doing a lot of hobby in attempt to kind of clear out the gray and try to paint projects that I haven't touched for awhile. I know Topics around Buna as well. So maybe I'll throw to you first. How you going with your hobby since Cancun where you at have you done anything or are you truly in his face I got burnt out the week before. Cancun so I don't know if anyone spoke to major in Cancun about but I still painting my army Cancun like three or four days to go hand. Um Juju health issues where my whole right side super stiff? Where couldn't actually sit down and paint anymore Actually had to borrow twenty MOTECH DOT my list because to finish the payback couldn't even finish painting the Shales Even got my friend to like do like. I'm the visual of the basing stuff Could sit down anymore. And then after that off to Cancun didn't touch a brush haven't touched by still haven't built a model but what I have been doing. And what's been helping me talking to people who have been playing games who've been working on stuff but talking to them about Ideas from discord WHATSAPP. Everything Just to keep me motivated being like okay. When I do have the spare time I could do it so really. I haven't done anything but I do want to Get it get onto say like really want to start a new army. And then also we're gonNA cut one was an interesting journey before. I kind of ritual to Egypt said I just want to highlight. Autumn has mentioned when it comes to tabletop simulator. Well and by the way. They're not a sponsor money from these. I just truly believe this is a good. This is actually a really good product but autumn was mentioning and I go to the skyway or implied a gentleman in American Rocco and automated in Spain so pretty amazing to watch live Sony. Spain place someone in in the in America which is an opportunity that he's is already so super interesting today as well but So what does I guess from a hobby point of view so I set myself a few goals and I've tried to to kind of keep myself motivated. I had a whole bunch of stuff I want to buy. I was planning on buying blood bowl Outside of playing the blood bowl video game. Jenny wren really cool place in people over the internet which was great but I actually got really into Jan Brewer about it and I said look ahead from games workshop the literally the Dave Clark close off the day and gains which opens up into Wednesday in my area. And I couldn't buy it so I'm like right getting frustrated account by blood. Boil when you to do and of similar selfish challenged GONNA paint all of my endless spells before Games workshop is Mitch. I've been back. Which is the second of? May so I've set myself a like endless challenge. Tin Spills I've never used the mouse genome. The the grave tied up some stuff from forbidden power. Just never touching. It's Seth Aaron Macabre for like two years. I've had like one hundred forty flagellant sitting there built ready to go and in the moment they got pulled from the cities of seek mall. Go Really de-motivated through. I'm like I'm going to paint these flagellants Contrasting the hell out of them. I'm trying to catch up to my. I built my Lord of changes been sitting my box for a while. Three years ago I bought a Ford Model. Colty incarnated elemental of a file on our this loophole. I found the secret is tech. Where basically it's a destruction model but it could be summoned by fire nation that was sitting in the cities of the battle. Major CDs of small throatedly collegiate Gothic collegiate. All Canaan. I remember this and you had a battalion idea. I'd say you're at least take. I'll get a summit. Nisa is free destruction in an order army and then it'll change and I couldn't do it anymore. I think you're thinking about that. Nine moms before like something was free. Our member lines. Yes yes 'cause I couldn't do it because it was stopped to the grain allied so I couldn't use your points to bringing destruction model but then it all changed and then stuffy but anyway set for like three years I've built under prime painted Just trying to clear the backlog. Yeah so in sons of they had not come out When all this new stuff comes out I won't have any guilt that I can go out and buy some cool stuff because of kind of cleared out as much as possible. Yeah I think that's a good option like I myself. I should be doing that but right now. I've been very like are now. I JUST WANNA starting new like I really want to go back to daughters Because I remember when you and I we chatted about may two daughters like a year ago and you told me to like look at because I used to run anyone. He didn't know this is to run ninety. Which else I was that guy. I made so many friends so many and popular always Kidding as your friends And it everything I remember. You said to me like look at doing an army. But you didn't do before is that I was like super snake. Heavy so at the moment been writing lists do that so I can just kinda like big Even I've done before but it's still like a new army but yet my plus I think quit my gray plastic when I sold stuff to fund for a VR Sylvan. It's taping day that That was that I was GONNA do until. Cd's kind of come out that you could still do them. They can just being part of living city. Let's get into the real topic. I think we're dancing around the topic. You know Wears HORACE IT BLUNT? Bowl seek absolutely. I'd love to talk more about lightbulb. Inside Games that are helping at least may stay out of a hobby. Burnout D.C D.C. Has mentioned things like audio books which has been awesome as well thankfully games workshop's in putting up these look. Ninety-nine pay audiobooks has been sued Liam. You you wanted to pick these topic. You came to me with this topic around how Burnaston Cup can use it the same. Let's stop this legit topic. Let's dig into it and And let's try to find some way to get ourselves out of his hobby bird out Ideas struggling a pretty much. This topic came about literally the end of Kanton. Where I myself as I said. Go to like pretty much. Kinda like injure myself just sitting down too much pain. 'cause painting like seven days straight away in a fourteen day strike and completely stopped it up and just bed me out a little bit like a pain like steady Malta. Got Killed me with I was over it and it burned me out like from your point where. I kinda didn't get excited about Cancun for a bit like I was like I don't really want to Guy 'cause I'm just bent out in a really WanNa do it and then Luckily my girlfriend is super supportive. And she says you better because you've already spent like all this time doing this and I was like okay fickle. I'm category time at tank on time or is always And then I realized that so many other people will be the same way I like. You've just rushed Nami. Oil You Busy straightaway. At higher they just Kinda like just. Brian Yourself Outweigh lose energy to do anything like that Lose motivation like you decided to start a new army where it's like thirty or sixty witch elves and you realize paid them in like a month and a half and he's yourself out side of This and I think you went to discord in Berea. Fifty people went through the same thing like yeah. I'm upset my at my two cents to what you just said so for anyone who's not even Ustralia New Zealand. You can call me es Ow macaw. It is the the holy weekend that I take. Players come together in our nation's capital. It is the world's largest aged Marvin. It was two hundred and forty players registered. I think it ended at one. Nineteen nineteen It's the biggest event in the wealth. we'll play people like John Connor America. We had some Scottish people come over some New Zealand. People come and because it's such a big event We'll start preparing for Cancun June July August September of time so we all stop thinking about preparing up to Cancun which is the light light January on out. Ustralia Die National Holiday. Thought wait we work on our armies and often people do a new year new army They want to debut. They knew Paints Game. The new battle there Board there on display board. They want to demonstrate the terrain paces. They WANNA play new armies and they put a lot of focus in love in this can't connected to reap the rewards in February and March and April and all the other events follow a lull had some smashing February. Sag TAKE in March. We were meant to have ends a cop and Brisk Hammer Rain April Sydney slaughtering June. This always events kind of roll on and can start tournament year and in Louisa Vincent LEAD UP TO THE NEXT CALL. And and what was really interesting as you. Work Your Ossoff. Then it's like I'm GonNa reap the rewards and in the world kind of collapsed and some people like me you know. I use tournaments as a deadline to build and paint and practice You know saggy title is. Aj built on some to to stink tank gun hole is built and painted them and I was building up some half laying so I had some injuries that I keep bashing the blood bowl half wings and they were all kind of in preparation for tournaments and now that is the deadline. Gone it's like while would under. Yeah what what what. What's the motivation for me? Pick up the pay brush. Why can't I paint is no goal is no you know? And some of these things can be really draining Some of these things are very tactical. Very detailed. The motivation disappears right. Yes so like I. I lost my motivation Brennan me out and as you said like I use tournaments as a deadline like I always have used as a deadline like if I wanted to try new list. New Thing Zan wanted to paint like an extra ten more Let's do it for Bruce Hammer and and I would just be like coolest An and if they're used to it and dots since during this time says no events that's been pots. It's like what's the point of being during this time like uncompetitive player so like I'm like there's no event or anything I don't really need to but recently my mind is changed because as we'll talk soon 'cause we talked about how Some people a bit Denver. The controversial McNary to unite before the show. We talked about how we can travel but we also decided saying like. Hey look at this way. This gives us some time to save up money to do that trip that we want to do so like so like so. This is the right time to start doing that. Omni but you wanted to do and do a kick drove it. It makes sense. It makes perfect sense Remember I mentioned on his show yet or not but I'd canceled Midwest meltdown cells Middle America in July. I had A. I was going to be playing with misdemeanor. Fister changed on the Friday Garaged a gentleman by the name of Wall. Sorin which is he's an awesome Matt Latte He was GONNA be my round one game full of that. I was GONNA go play a battle report with re-rolling ones in Seattle I was lining up stuff. We'd like to bus tough job stop. It was happening July in this will happen right in our. I want to be mindful that I don't paint because of tournaments. And you know Huey in the chat made a really good comment that he tries to or you're just paint for the tournament rush. I'm not a toilet. Brush Guy. I'm not can be painting. You know the morning of the tournament that it's a nice way to at least motivate yourself will keep on the hope with a deadline to say. I have to do in the next four weeks. Six Weeks. Two weeks As opposed to like rushing in doing a really bad job that I think without that that internal or external pressure it you need to find million need to find your own motivation and date date with mentioning earlier in the chat that you know the audio books there are a great white not only entertain yourself but to keep inspiration juices flowing sinful gaming was talking about you. Know the the community in the connectedness from the lack of the Scotsman the discords to keep yourself a positive and motivated. Nothing is a lot of tactics insights that we can talk about he that helped us out of it also keep head above the Hopi waters. Yeah exactly I like my Gaming Group I have Benz Manetti. Who's posting up? Some awesome stuff is care and then you have ashes now smashed out. I think three types of I say armies but like they wore bands like like wilbon armies. He's like finish soon out treated isolation and stuff saying that stuff is kind of like maybe like okay like this is the time to start doing some evener. I'm not isolated. I'm still at going for work. But like juicer. No events or anything I could should still be being like still should be acting like I have a deadline teachers. Because that's been I've said screw it. One of my goals right now is paint hundred forty flagellants. That have been sitting in my desk. Because I don't have that deadline I need to find a way to answer the metal and under house arrest think about our B our Incheon. Sarah Fun I'm buying in painting preparation to do well at a tournament. I could can look at my hobby distance. You know what a these Laura change sitting there for a while or you know what? I haven't touched shade spy We'll bans for awhile. I'm going to paint that up and it allows me an injury grigsby. He has made a really good comment that he has done Mojo in the last two weeks that he has done in twenty years because he can stop thinking about things a little differently show. Andrew has his own ideas but I guess it's the white we use this. The same time is one of external people out there. Saying you're putting pressure on a slight. You've got to learn any skill. You've got to be super proactive And Annette Camino helpful. Yeah I I've had people come into my work buying pianos and stuff. 'cause They WanNa let him just to keep in mind busy but like I've been like I have like one of my good mates Robbie who doesn't really play the game. But he enjoys painting wants to lend. He's like since this isolation would learn non-metallic metal. So He's been using this time to like in previous painting and letting his skill whereas like. I've always wanted to know how to do this. So He's gone off and done it and he goes through. Burn up all the time like hey was painting a whole bunch of Andrus because he really WANNA learn how to play the game. He must've done but he just got burnt out. And then now. He's just like Took a burnout break. Go back into just wants to learn a new skill to to this whole isolation. There's a lot of great things that I'll come back to in the chat very soon that you was someone who went through Hobby Burnett I. I've found ways to keep myself out of hobby. I'd feel like I got to a point. Where do you WANNA touch paintbrush? iconic kept myself busy in different ways there before we get to the owner. Like hadn't you know that you you hit the wall? Now what would those signs that you recognize in yourself or others recognizing knew that that you realize that you are in this distinct? That is a year I want to talk about how about two and a half ways like which is free because you always respond to main your ways from various list ideas that me in in secret ticket. You're is thrown crazy stuff to the on facebook Messenger. Yeah I don't want to talk about what happened to off like I just didn't like I came back from Cancun and I kid you not didn't touch zig didn't touch wolves girls didn't even. I didn't even look at the community Like the news. I didn't like I'm the Guy. Wakes up first thing in the morning on a Monday to say what's on the protest next week like that was like my routine every Monday. Boom get it done and now it's just like like I knew it was bad when I was. I have no interest of what's going on like I have just didn't care like it was. That's what I knew. I had to branch out and I was just like what's going on kind of thing I and part of it for me was like my experience of Cancun. What happened to me during the event like I had a pretty like had a good time socially but games wise and what happened during games. I didn't have a good time so I got really turned off of what happened than I think is by g during the event and you knew some of the stuff. I was going through most of my games where you thought about it. I didn't forget about bunnies Saito. Would not let me forget about that. It was great anyway Com. Insures that you would eat out before Cancun right. Yeah I am sure that it with things at lading to Cancun that because you hit state of burnout that may be Again what in that mood? Things may have been. It'll be different but yes yes. There were some things that happened in some laws that I might have had the side. It was one of things where like I had like one of the things. We talked about like mental health and stuff as well as things were like. What happened to majoring? Some of these Games always very down about it. Sounds very like this? Is it made? This shouldn't be happening to me like what's going on and it. Kinda like really turned me off with the game. I think it was like by game three even a one game three. I wanted to just stop playing like I was not interested but I didn't want to do that to clinch being like by the way I drop outside Let's keep going And like it was. It was really rough on me and then came back home and you have everyone being all. Try this. Try that on me and I was like I have no interest in talking about Wilhelma like I wanNA talk about video games. I WanNa talk about what I'm doing for my study. I wanted to talk about my new job kind of thing and I kid you not like I literally Code Gopher Bane like hey can we just like sit and just watch movies for the next three days. Because I don't WanNa like paint do hobby. I'm like no I have no interest in that. And she was like rice saving. She knew something was like was often. She'd tried to push me to do something fun. And you just like build something. Why don't you like novices? I've no interest currently at the moment and go back where I was like. Add no interest in it and then yes then it's popped up again. Thanks to a sudden disco chat and But yes absolutely and There are probably people who are listening right now. Feeling that right now. They're really looking at the social pressures of people on twitter and instagram sharing all the wonderful work in progress. And look at me. I've learned of sallow no metallic metal and seagoing. I haven't touched a paintbrush in three weeks. Yeah I looking at this kid and I want to build it. I just can't be honest. I said there are people even outside of Cancun. Who Feeling at right now saying I'm looking Volvo and I kid you not. I have categorize like literally in bulk. Still like the coolest one of the coast brain reporters inbox still in my display cabinet. Like I want to build him a once a paint him. He's there like I know I wanNA do him. But it's motivating me to do it like looking at box right now being like I really want to crack it open right now just like it's just been trying to get it going the four weeks ago you look the cat across and they like glanced or you would have just looked at. It felt no emotion and would have just turned a blind eye even though that he's such an amazing model. Yeah I let you go like yeah. It's it's been one of those things where it got that bad so obviously we can dwell on the on the the negativity and things are challenging in. Its toughened their priorities outside the hobby but at the same time we all came to the hobby for a reason whether it's for social interaction whether it look. I'm not a witch a guy but there was some some famous super awesome. Dude the wicha. Guy Who has put tweet out instagram in meltdown. Because he was painting a actually no it should not know his name which which which resulted superman a marvel guy I would nothing to do with DC Something cavill trying to Henry cavill is on. I think it is. I'm sure we do is a pretty big clue all right. I don't know him personally. No game watched which I watched it for like half an episode but the point is is that a rating his comments he was talking about the soothing and calming effects of sitting down a painting model. Henry his name by chance. Harry the what you said but you'll get a bit. I'm copying his name in the Chat non-stop now so Henry Cavill. But he was he was. He hid blown up twitter and instagram and us in so many blogs about him from various sites that they've called this thing called which is somewhat away to learn any skill to calm yourself to focus to do a distraction. That is outside of winning the Issues all danes workshops. Don't quit for the roof suffering through the roof. Even though they stocks trade ride bitch but yes he is still going these night. Yes Henry Cavill yes. I'm show unless guideline is now but the point is that's what he's actually watched. Shar washing superman. He's like the boring to be here. Are The witch and. I've watched once I didn't get it. I didn't play the video game so I get a one. This is bizarre. I didn't even play the game and I understood. You have to watch the whole season to understand it not wasting NAR. It's the whole thing is where I'm at his. I'll watch etiquette. Why are you better than a King? The whole channel. Tell you right now that it's better than the tagging. Anyways keep going so yes a little poodle. He blew up the Internet but also also seem to four gangs. Many really comment as well as a wrestler coach Shane. Baseler as well. Who's been posting some stuff about corned Which is also like a saw this like the Bloody Cohen was hearing. You gotta a wrestling fan and you know Shane Baseball. So alerted the tweet while. Sorry there's a lot going on. We have a hobby the hobbies enjoyable. And we've all come to the high for different reasons. So you're I guess you're using the time we have whether it's going to be half an hour now was seven hours. We're GONNA talk. Let's let's talk about ways we've kind of got out of their folk or maybe. Kip themselves motivated in this challenging time. And it's been interesting rising super interesting. So maybe it was that with Youth Zone. Who who actually got out of his funk how started at what what would you start talking about about the discord like talk to me that these code experience so some Guy Code. Anthony invited made to his disco Chop Anna. Kigen on your part of the I'm sure he has linked is twitter and stuff. Hey It's super supportive like I have never seen sign much. People in different levels like begin. Immediate Experience Hobbyists just talking about lists hobby whole bunch of random stuff. Like I who Got Me back into doors. There was one of the guys like just north of toys is it autumn autumn order. Because on the CHARRETTE. Now kidding not start saying the comments and everything the discord being like it is going to be doing like. Oh my God. This is amazing. I love what you're thinking. I think they were talking about scourge chariots. I was like that's like I would issues back to a whole like that. Legitimately fills a hole and document really excited and saying some people like working on some stuff and I think one. I think it was the same person who knows different. President instant conversions also daughters and I was like sick like this is really cool and that got me really excited like shapes and then Yeah Autumn. Which is that. And then we got an my client filthy chat I left the client field chat like off to Cancun and then I got invited back. And then there's guys started getting me hyped. Up began like Chriswell vague. Got Me hyped up again a big time being gals think about this and this is like sending me lists once again. This is sick so that really helped out. Tapes that chuck the Just talking to people again just race blocking that like they like I was talking had the ATC Going on at the same time. But that was very much like talking about competitiveness bills and stuff like that got me reminding. I HAVE ATC but it did get me going. I need this. I need a paint that it got me like. Oh I just need to get categories so I bought categories and didn't think anything of it so maybe the white there will pulls his point for second is the importance of community. So whether it's facebook route whether it's a dischord and you know that that was unplanned by Lifelock Discord there are lots of these codes out. There is what set groups there are tweet off. There is instagram. There is read it there is. There are so many places that you can chat Like a gaming group Facebook Messenger or whatever it might be right and I guess what I'm hearing from you lay of is the importance of while you're physically isolated not being socially isolated keeping yourself in conversations talking about the fun stuff. It might not be the most competitive stuff that in. His downtime is like owner on snakes onto flagellants What's what's this look with. Five blood doses. Everyone knows twenty. Snakes is competitive. It's not fluffy it's no. It's not fluffy but at the same time. It's not like you're building for tournament coming up you deep diving into this analysis. It's more about your removing the pressure. A little bit to have a bit of fun. Yeah exactly like Silva playing around thinking about you know. What would sylvan look lacking Nina? Maybe running three threes around. Who knows that it is important because we're talking about a whole bunch of stuff? People sharing photos of the dogs. Their food people are chatting of. At least they're sharing hobby progress and randomly sitting up about music and stuff like we have like a whole lot of people sharing songs People talking that wrestling the massive wrestling fans we talked about Wrestlemainia and all these documentaries about Crispin Wa paypal stuff stuff is going on in his keeping socially connected without having to physically be tournament. Exactly and it's just one of those things where I've got totally hates break constantly. Been helping. Now it's just like for me writing. I have realized that one of the brick and things of some social groups were some of the what's up chats and everything like sometimes you just forget about them. And when he decided to go back into the US thought scrolling and just catching up and suffering grading on some stuff. It's been good. It's been really good so I guess. Find Your space. Whether it's a dischord whether it's facebook way to regulate gaming crew if you if you are part of the gaming crew a local gaming stool I local gaming stores one of the members just a little discord because obviously days to hang up on Thursday in paint and play that now that I can't do that doing their little mini chat so find your community to create one the doing on I think another game agree that doing zoom meetings during zoom meetings to skype. It's been it's technology half a search like I remember you and I. We decided I decided I was doing a I wasn't even doing hobby was doing a Guinea assessment until unique has been and I jumped on the voice chat on discord. Everyone's like what are you doing like? What are you hoping another hobby? I'm just doing my eating assessment but I wanNA talk. We'll hammock while I'm mike like that. Got Me excited again like I even have time to actually paints but being able to like go into like a voice chat or something like a social thing to do Mike what I have today for my life like my union work and then talk about my hobby at the same time. It's been really good. Yeah there's a guy in my chat Cho buckets. He Is often in the in the chat here as well. But he's he's often sitting dischord chats in drama Cameron in here as well Bounce jumping the Audio. If you'll free they'll just come talk shop and often with the guys in America or in Europe That will be finishing work for the day. And I'll be at work but also jumping that voice coal just chat with them and you know stay connected even though working from harm hours during this you could save me pretending to be talking but I I would chat with them again. Just keeps me connected. Keeps me entertained? Keeps me grounded while I'm working from home very disconnected as well so I think the community is important as as shown said technology users a like that but did so like honestly the community Help me out with it and now. I'm excited about new hobby projects and like I could probably after we finish this episode of probably cut across. Probably stop my daughter's less invasive here and he said he's locals doing a blood bowl league so I've been playing a bunch of other games outside agency Ma. Obviously I can't play physical games but being being playing things like blood bowl. You mentioned won't online Sorry Online paypal playing tabletop. Salem Cola Judy. There's lots of the coup gains in still play with community members seek mall. I got Semaine. Kenny Kenny is in the chat may have never played again. Joe S right. He lives in Queensland like he lives. queens idea double check. And he's he's he's up north and Can you not like two or three nights ago? I hit them up being like. Hey do a play. On the world's online we have no played a game with a US at all. We played around. We played like six rounds of four or five rounds of Underwood's and like just like just casually talked about life casually talks about like what we've been working on hobby. He told me about these amazing idea but he wants to do for KUNAMA which apparently dirt approve. But we'll talk about that later. He just be crazy tech like you said me. An army like five units six units of shadow warriors We're doing Kenny. Pays core NAMI yellow Golden Damon? I think that's miss genius idea Emma Madame anyways but like we got to talk about that and that was kind of Quebec like I'm not playing an OS. But I'm playing a war hammer game or something online where someone who haven't even had a proper game with which I would love to still But I got to like that again. That they're just talking to someone from the community really. Got Me excited about doing some hubby. I couldn't do. Hobbies started off to the online game because we played to like midnight but yeah it was good while Cameron Slash Dreamer an IBM playing. Evita blood ball together which has been really cool I can say will fit being playing a bit of time as well. So there's more time game This is the the turtle will will have nurse well There's a lot of cool will games that you can still play to keep within the universe without having to be physically connected by agency mall tabletop. sets In Kinney said as well he had a great time with you so own Quarantaine hawks crap out of me. But it was a great life that again. Going back to sean to that technology. We've got other ways of connecting. We've got these video games whether it's we'll have more not we'll have more I've noticed with my American friends The concurred to be playing this game. I think you've been playing his animal crossing. I imagine animals walking across a street. Crossing Tuesday caused a run the life of it but like other games that we can stay connected. You Know Po- come on and I dunno you cool kids with your games Verma tide is another game but long story short. I've seen a whole bunch of things on on twitter and in these groups that have said at me to my steam. Id here is my poem on log on all at me as a friend on animal crossing and we can play together and stay connected without having to be physically together. Yeah it's it's a weird time in the world but it's getting around it across the Christians that animal crossing or anything that that's My level Ip Paik between that which Agai an animal crossing. And poke come on like. This is the behavioral strict on love. How you still call in the Wichita guy even I. Someone told you his name five times. Henry you're not yet Henry Henry if I'm addy Montlake daywear. We follow him on twitter. I am the coach of linked to in professional games. Man a lot of cool games and I think again. What's really cool is that we have these odd these digital and global community so you can tap into that and we'll have a common love of Obama and if your portfolio Komo PLA we now have. We'll hang up and POKEMON together so we've got something to build a relationship off exactly i. Yeah but yeah but that was like one thing that got me. Help me out with getting out of that burnout. I've been told I have to gradually to Cancun code him. The Dame Betty is shipping Chila Henry Henry Cavill anyways might have But that community. We're talking about the importance of communities. Thank you connected with communities. We've talked to that things like video games. That can help us. Stay connected whether it's him or not William. What else has helped you with the burn. Alum this awesome project that I worked on Las Week which I said he photos of. And it's the most exciting thing I've done which was a native Blake. Cabinet led lights. So I can actually display Miami properly. I spent some time. I might brooms a mess. has been a mess. 'cause all done is. I've been working fulltime and studying fulltime and trying to manage ago at the same time like trying to like dissociate incentive during his crazy time and I had to sold at my room and half my room is legitimately like it was like my flow is covered with like war cases and everything it was. Forgive mess Illegitimately Hammock Cancun on the flow. Being like yet there it is and then I decided like cool. I'm actually needed like claims up and fix it And like I kid you not. I think I went to Kia trips. Bought some led lights and got it all like fixed serve. Anyone wants to say it. It's on twitter at Chateau Hamma under school. I kid you not that got me like doing it. And I remember sending you for it is being strangled. How proud I am of it because it like saying Miami on display right now and having an old lit up and everything has made like cool I really want to get stuff done. Like I really want to fill out Mike like I got the two shelves currently empty and unnerve at some of the broken or like needs being fixing the same that has made me want to fix it and get it all done so take. It's funny. You say that as well because anyone with an observant eye on youtube or facebook would recognize that my backgrounds. Different as well so I I actually spent some time reorganizing studio which funnily enough my wife's now taking are now working from home as well so she's got her little flower was he. I bought a good husband a rearranged. I bought myself a new monitor. I've gone out and bought some new cabinets. I've rearranged some things you know cleaned up some space in things that I wouldn't have done nobly or would it take a long time because I'm painting for tournament on. I'm practicing Playing Games Amazing. Opportunity to restructure my hope. He space myself a second paint rack. So I can now On my painting a pile I've thrown out a bunch of stuff whether it's old spruce whether it's stuff that I just haven't used Dole Amusing the bind sales well to potentially sell some things on a get like life maintenance out of the way like another thing. I've done to my face like I. My Room is medium size like my bed and Li like wardrobe installed by my desk is quite small Like it's very thin so I don't actually have a lot of rain like can you? Not like our pay where he goes looking at wanted to eight and a half people and stuff by the room and like my playstations taking up my space so like one of the other things I'm doing is getting my desk laid out some been moving stuff like got another display cabinet like a TV. Things can put stuff there but I don't use often just the now. I can make space so I can have like a hobby section and like a workstation so I can like in and out says it's been like life maintenance stuff to be able to like. Clean it out so I can be like. Oh I have room to Hobie accents like like 'cause like if I look at my desk right now. I do not want to put a paintbrush anyway. This like a. It's too messy. Get like really clouded in like. I'll be back to more. I had issues with a Cancun. Wear at back issues so I want to get cleaned up so I can be like comfortable relaxed and be able to do it. Also ties in Nutley. New Junk City said where he said that now. They've kind of hit a mall. Start with Yami You can paint pallet cleanses now that things have shut down so if you've always been paying bills you know. This is a nice little pallet cleanser to To paint some forty K. I Know Stoking Clinton that He was painting some forty. Coyote loves the pain of primarily marine no interesting collecting forty Cape It. You know painting something a little bit different I've mentioned you know blood bowl of couldn't oga coming pretty soon that I'm going to stop painting. Some pellet cleanses that the endless fills appellate cleanse. It suddenly is different. This simple easy. Yeah complacent different techniques and Directly tied to Myabe. So that's a really good coal at Coletta. Nothing that shown is said which I think are really good Cole. He was talking about the importance of getting out of your hobby. Space and making Also you know getting some full of exercise rather as going for walks. I bought a next size box so I can work out. How now especially 'cause we kind of going into the winter months but also outside got some whites? Some whites White Training and worked as well. So I can start doing some again. Some physical training that now that I conquered the GM because It's caused yet. It's also getting outside and taking frequent breaks in and giving some Sano Crimes just to stay physically active otherwise in harm twenty four seven cutting going insane. I for my thing and I know this is like people's while when he joined saint inside like if you're hoping for anyone who's like not going through burn up might be going for Brunell when I was feeling the burn out before Cancun kidding when I was competing with my back and stuff I cannot I literally I remember. I had my girlfriend hair. And she was watching me pain and I just got up walked out and I just went for a walk for like an hour just went walk around the neighborhood for an hour and it was like eleven o'clock at night as went on for woke is needed like that fresh up. 'cause. I knew I was going crazy. I was like this is going to do my headed and Aquino came back after that. One hour woke of fresh air stretching back and everything. I was energized enough to keep going. If it's anyone anyone ghosted Jim would know that. Sometimes you having a rubbish day and you're not GonNa go to the gym and then you convince yourself for fight. Look I'm going to get in for five minutes to five minutes on a new one exercise and you never just stay Jim for one exercise. You know you're physically you get caught the endorphins going. That gets you to feel and change different horaces. We'll talk to you. Know kick bag punching bag up boxing bag as well. And if you've got something like that find find you lock yoga that for my wife. You know a whole bunch of things ethos can do to to be physically active hell. There was a a twitter challenge. Recently tagged in that was like doing ten pushups and then what happened was like ten shops in shock had to do like. Tim. So what happened. Was I think it was chopped Moore and Mr fister slotted some random challenge that have been asleep and then somehow I got tagged. I think I might have commented on Ed. Goodwa ten pushups another tag and then. What happened is detained shops? And then you know you're meant attack to other people and then all of a sudden Vince Venturelli smashing like twenty five or fifty shops became. It's like people do a push. Keno that wife on their shoulders and lifting. The dog said some crazy stuff that fraser as well from the New Zealand He's been doing like ten or twenty pushups. Every Twenty Five push-ups v Twenty five days said that social element as well as the physical element is because we're all kind of like pushing job. Yeah exactly if I remember seeing that it was just like it was weed. Wars twitter tended to like fitness workout. There was organic. It was just. It was just a way for us to connect whether it's And I I know some friends who are part of like those. If forty five gyms they do like body training via zoom Yeah so if you've got a friend in you WANNA work together. Oh maybe do some yoga or whatever. You can use your technology to keep yourself either using the creams Chris. Hemsworth whatever whenever fitness guru you subscribe to To do some workouts at Harvard or to still took ill someone who likes to be connected with community exercise together. Yeah it does help. It's all people find that brotherhood and Sisterhood with the with the gym rats with within their running buddies with the people who like to do good camps together. Sar Finding that community. Whatever that looks like. It's surprising how many Fitness people sitting. Now we'll have a community Hayden Hayden Hayden Walker and chuck more two of those mini example sir. A leading that fitness charge. And if you will learn more strength Komo Has a whole bunch of life workouts at home so if free so check that out. Yeah I need to get started as well. I have the time to do. You can do like in a exercises on your chair. The whole bunch of stuff he can do without actually being the GM. But I think we kind of hit on the head which is during physical exercise and getting outside not being stuck in the house four seven and yes did he pay Yoga. Diamond Dallas page. Yoga is also ma'am. I got another thing that forthing also helps me out is a kidding. Just buying one thing like I think the only practice updates I fought was categorized never didn't make that purchase. I don't think I would be driven enough to build him right now. That makes sense of accents by smoking since like just like you don't have to buy a home mommy. I'm about to win. The stores are open again but Being able to buy something where you've got a really want to get this done when I got the time so like as I said I'm looking at right now being. I really want to get them done. We can take it slide right like if you. WanNa if you've always wanted to build a Gash or you've always wanted an hockey on all Alario or some type of big centipedes model. This is the time to do it. Yeah if you've always wanted to conduct an Kish Kit Bash your own thing whether you've ever wanted to write a story about your mommy and where it comes from the heroes and the law. This is the time you could do it. Exactly it's like as I said like when it comes to people who WanNa travel in style like this is like the time if you WANNA do like a big trip this time to save up and then do that big trip all like anything like that just it as much as the road is crappy at the moment. There's always a way to like get a done. It that make sense. Yes that might make Mark Wolfson. You know that this time to do some crazy conversions like so he sees of seek Ma. I used my solicitation primes Hurricana. Sorry the Swell in our economy so now this prime that I I don't have a swell for that. I'm like what does this look like. Kinda playing around with little conversions and obviously this is not the model like just jot on top. But I'm like head I use these in what I do and it's pretty crazy. Conversion Kit Bashing Feels like we're GONNA come out of these in pretty crazy obvious whether they well painted with a different and unique Whether the kit bashed I think the level of hobby potential is going to be the greatest that we've ever seen because we don't have the rush. Yeah like I reckon like I have. I remember sending you photos of my original idea for children identity. Remember when I put on the vital. Do you remember the time? Yes so one of my things I WANNA do is get that done like actually get it done and be like I have done this and I'm like I love. I Guess Most People Mary Foley from following me on twitter I love doing big centerpiece models. my all can. Even I didn't do any conversions of him but I was super proud of how I painted him. I always enjoy doing I one of these on will do is get that done and also do a blood wreck shrine with a console riding it so yeah like I've already started against one of the things I started. It just never done. Projects is the thing that I want to do with the doors economy. Yeah I think I. It's an exciting time whether it's you clearing it back like I'm doing. I'm I'm holding out until the goggles come out so I'm trying to con of I'm GonNa Buy Blood Bowl and I've gone enough supported forge world than I bought myself one hundred dollars. Two hundred dollars actually get extra credit but I WANNA go by. Stop Plaza By the cheerleaders. I WANNA go by the the human upgrade kit is like at initial four different colors humans Saddam that's GONNA be my reward coming out of this but in the meantime. I have about sixty flesh-eating Pools that I always wanted to paint like white walkers like the icy blue I've got the fledgling talked about About eighty brings learn horizontal building to be completed that Laura Change. I've got so many things at a sitting here. I've gone out and bought all the stuff that I want to use for Mike. Han-kon display boards inside to play my can display totally time 'cause letting everyone Yes has already thought about this. Display Board for twenty twenty one like I've I've designed it. I've got a crack idea. I think the question is GonNa be. We'LL GOG INS derail. My crack idea came third. But if you don't I you lost so I'm going to prepare Blanco. Was going to be there as well. This the to build that display. I had a really great chance About a month ago with Martin Orlando. We talked about presenting and building out of display board. This is the time to learn how to farm to manipulate pole residence in a building that two by two four Amazon parade which is going to be hopefully in October September type of period is the time to do it to to prepare. Potentially the chosen painting competition took time in for like a golden demon entry for next year. So I guess that's where I'm thinking about. What can I do with this time without putting too much pressure on myself because I still need to like mentally physically bay on point but the same time the Not Put too much pressure on myself. I like I haven't thought about Cancun on twenty twenty one yet. I think what's going to happen to me for that. One is just going to be like. What have I got done this year because the other thing as well as like EC twenty three month? Like I'll be practicing armies for that But yeah it's one of the things like those big events number. Were waiting for for next year. I'm just GONNA be next level that Cancun because I'm still preparing for CJ TATE which is scheduled for October And I've Been Three D. Printing the hell out of digital terrain. So I know that my life is going to get busy leading into October so I want to do some work now so I'm ready to capitalize and maximize volcano. I do WanNa have a great display and I'd like to challenge I so this is the time to do it at least prepare and stop the process process. Yeah exactly yeah like as this brings hammer which I don't know there's a date yet or anything like I know I wanna go to that. So that's the only thing is even when that event is I do WanNa get daughters Deng Fort when I guard that. It's like a new fresh army which is helping push for burnout. Interesting question from Zach. This come up that I'll call now is that You know and I felt this in that community with the warmer reveals. I decided question doesn't allude to an army but I can almost guarantee you. I know the army. We're talking about so the question is how do you stay motivated in the Muhabi in particular? If a certain release in preview the disappointed you put a sour taste in your mouth for everything else. We'll have a related now. The underlying turn here is it may be a set of elves that worship. Akao got on being blonde which will get the luminaries. Duluth buy ammunition work in Miami so I will reserve my judgment. Goggin will always stole my hot. I'm not an Elf club. But what are your thoughts on this? You know we. All releasing new models are some people that are coming out of the old weld. Who have been waiting for this release. Whether it's GonNa be disappointed. The tune kings plays might have had with the the author burn rapists navy high of players or the traditional players looking at luminaries. What are your thoughts on? I don't wanNA rubbish lube with. I think they're a great sculpt but I know that some of the looks happy. Supporters People are Zach I'm going to be real view. I once was very disappointed about a very particular on me but I invested a lot of money in new army. But it was an odd. I invested a lot of time in and that was my Sylvan F- I think Anthony Remembered when the book got late. I was not happy I think. Marcus reaction was Trash I cried. I lost a lot of my things and yeah like I. I was super upset about it. I was actually pretty pissed. I was like I just put so much money like I bought. How many traced bay play competitive? Sylvan have like so many ten dryades. I feel no sympathy for you shall not sympathy from you with rubbish that you pull having one dry ed Wildwood and the whole unit gets frigging modest. Wanted to hit any more for free. There's nineteen two feet but that's the question. The question is important the disappointment with reveals because some people that'd be really looking forward to the At the next project I was like I then finally gave them time. I guess like I actually started playing them. And I've worked out a list that I liked like I picked the models like I've always liked colonel hunters and I spend the crap out of them Iran eighteen of them but like when it comes to being motivated with an army but did not happy with events like the thing that you were saving up for ready. Drop money in like. That's probably like as what I would do. Those models Vavuniya do like like say like a hero or anything. They have any lights. Grab that here are save. Its boxer imagination. One thing that I always liked doing is converting like I frigging like there was a style that you like like an army. But he's already been baby like there's always ways we can make it Like your iron in a way like I've I'm sure the house. If you wanted to be more doc alphabetic he can switch some pots of do something. Do something giveaway. It's like the you wanted. People disappointed by the heads. I think they look like Vasco bullheads and like a basketball hoop and my response would be Funds in Ohio heads or go find a third party manufacturer. That has heads that you like. If you don't like the big B Kaushal. Don't take it if he if he tech compensation with a few people a few weeks ago that if he doesn't like the head of that off tech was based confronted from head good put a free deal Griffin head on it. Go find something that was more civically pleasing to your But I do appreciate in recognize your disappointment if your expectations were that this was the new house. But that's another point there as well as that they were never going to be the new high-ups just like the Seattle Bein. Rape is we're never going to be the two kings reimagined like I knew for a fact like I. I was super excited. About a few of my. It'd be all models like I was super excited for someone coming out and some the rules on his great and I'm a committed player in a kind of me out of it and I was like this is not what I wanted but I picked the things but I liked like I did the same with My flesh eaters like this. It's always happens like you find an army that you liked by might be some of the day like in some parts of the like is switch them out like I SYS. Slota heads like I really don't like him so I just swap them to be. Which of heads made sure When I paint them I can tell the difference of. What's a wichita from what's a sister? Slota like ms always ways around it in the day did not for you. They belong to find something else Obviously want you to stay in the hobby. That point forcing yourself to to unless you can find something you enjoy a Beckel the topic. Liam is there anything else? Like what else? What else Kinda kept your juices flowing from me painting models and just doing doing something every day. Even if I wasn't able to allocate half an hour or an hour a couple hours a day just being out to you know to a lick of paint ten minutes half an hour into my hobby and over time completing tasks and if I'm not feeling into it during force myself to do it Find something that I enjoy. It might just be. You're building a model cleaning moat line. it might be just a building old painting I love. They've gained workshop. Gold as liberated gold mining liberated gold and then putting some regular flesh shade. The selling I enjoy and like forget the rest. Just do what I enjoy the most and slowly you kind of build that excitement. Yeah I like what I been doing so like as I said like during a little bit of toss made me motivated but when it comes to a hobby like one of my we'll be doing is like him. I don't have time if I have stuff a union stuff what I would be doing is grabbing my those came Grab a spur build. A couple of other she'd be like Columbus going to build five out of the ten and I put him aside Go on a real life stuff. Oh do my real life stuff than build fiving go to sleep like this is a little tasks can help out starbucks I I. It's it's one of those things where sorry these comments. I'm like what is going the common to go but Yeah and the other thing as well as that Helps me motivate is putting on something that you enjoy watching as well if I make sense like I like. Netflix is killing at the moment. With the amount of stuff they've been putting on is Disney plus now so like to give you a cool idea of some cool motivation Abbott. Qn tried to finish a whole load rings project that he's set aside and he wanted to be finished by by him. Finishing watching the return of the king is a coup challenge. The he was like. Oh I have this fall muddles done by the time. This movie's finished and it was like to gamble on the grab. Grimly is a couple of really cool bottles. Yeah it he was just like he wanted them done like he says like this is my goal. He didn't get it done but it did motivate him to keep going and he didn't get that burn outlook he. This guy eventing. What doesn't Akunin like he's will have is very heavily involved around him because he is a voted and he is not bent out. I've never had him ever complaints. I'm not keen on helping 'cause he always finds a way to like keep going keep watches twitch dreams. He watches He reads audible audiobooks and stuff like he's vary like keep him motivated but been a lot. It's in the blood. And that's that's a really good cool at its well. We've had a couple of preview. Seminars have happened and they've united the likes of white and the you know the Crew Bang Bailey. They've all been doing. The previews live on twitch to getting involved in the comments section of the twitch chat Has Been really cool. There's been Kind of watching the live reveals of the doors of carrying the Goggin. The luminaries looking at some of the new stuff is coming out for forty K. In the other games and it's been awesome kind of getting involved in the chat and you mentioned the audio dramas they had the sole wars For Dala or fifty nine pain like go buy them. You know. That's that's why trophy to learn about the little get a different view of I just saw and you might find new inspiration. You might find inspiration to find that death army or you might find something in Seoul. Was that once. You explore that modal realm is a lot of stuff I cannot I when people have been listening from us before I've watched tapes added. I don't have anyone can see this or come on Also Magara last week length award wave like that's a lot wake Mr Fister wave lack of like what I do and I hope he is. I put on a series but I've thought to be like it's like something that I've watched before like. Hey Times could be an old one and just watch it while hobby and that keeps me going like I watch it and also I use that as a time like I know that every episode goes for twenty three minutes so every time girlfriend episode McCoy's Praised me minutes on kids between like I'm keeping myself track of how fos in going for the project like you. Don't actually John. You just had to like keeping track kind of thing at another thing. It's just like find something that you enjoyed watching before like a movie or anything and you will honestly like it helps out a lot. I need a car out. West is made really comments wealth. You know the go. Trek book is just incredible That was a really great book. United is if you have children There are children's books for forty CAIN agency that put out different things like little coloring in exercises whether it's from community or a community member by the name of screw for Jones as in putting out the coloring in exercises based around. We'll have a seat Martin forty case. There are other little different ways. There was a carriage in villa. Little game that we'll have a community put out the other week. That is a lot of different law whether you are a visual auditory lineup. So checking out the lack of two plus tough dog old guy onto a audiobook. Whether you are radar is a great topic. Revisit things like the end times one of the different various Is this many great ones. I know another glimpse. It's one is one that I want. I need to pick up. What are you? What are you doing Har Har Comment. Best thing ever on neon genesis event. I used to watch that as a kid as well But this is the thing you get to like this as we said before technology. Use it like you don't have to use technology just search allies you can use it for entertainment and things like like even music like I like. You just have to have something going like. You don't want to do a hobby in complete quietness like we talked about this before. And he is episodes where you've got to keep it like interesting and stop like one thing. I actually St- About Assad doing and I know some people probably don't have the luxury but like I'm actually getting my girlfriend to paint me as you now prefer the burn out because she's really keen on knowing my luck is probably going to be part of tank on trade twenty one dollars she played beat you in the rankings. Yeah I just hope. He doesn't join us this Saturday night. Shenanigans but Yeah so like it's just one of the things like like being able to like get someone to be with you even if it's like fruit zoom like as we talked before like this gaming groups who are doing zooming so you have friends who usually like goes to the store within paint with just hit up the zoom into a video chat and just told him about the mall and stuff and it honestly like it really does help like. I seen a few people get their pop. Naturally you know in this environment where we looked at a little bit. He added saying they're saying enjoying solves in the painting of scrolling facebook. Oh plain words with friends or whatever your partner might be doing and they might show an interest in painting immortal old. Learning what you do so I've seen a few people Do Battle reports departments partners all just to play a different game whether it might be Reliving something like We'll have a quest whether it's like silver towers where there is going to be playing something simple. I play something to be more complicated. You Might WanNa three partnering to a two thousand point match. Play a game that you know getting them involved and keeping them active Might be a great great way to introduce him into the Hobby. Also to keep yourself in detained as well. Yeah like it's just having them like. Yeah I've been very lucky with mine like give metal. She's very interested in a hobby And yet she's just like Canada's like that there's going to be helping me out like getting her to be able to build and paint a model and then like doing one with We'll just keep me like motivated for the Bernau. Like to give me out of this burnout. An estimate like Andrew Wood's talked about the doctor who audio dramas kind of kept humanitarian. An iphone may what keeps me entertained his Viking Metal Lackawanna Moth and she's like absolutely high paced Viking metal his case at Tempo GonNa upgrade painter. I'm going to be rated by a rival clan and killed so I'd better paint this model but whatever works for you. Yeah just to say you know by the way I've got tabletop simulator. What just then. It's it is really good. It is very. I've enjoyed my experience so far. It was actually really easy to to play. And if this does go six to twelve months. I'd rather learn now and stopped to practice because people people having fun they've been streaming in various places and it's a nice way to to play a game with someone across the world that you would never normally play it's going to. Atc wanted wanted a year Event that you could play somebody in Germany and France to the international language of have. I just need practice as you know. I love smashing out games. Like I think like that's the big PAPI's once again. Nami built like painted a still somehow play so many games so for me. It is very much like. That's that's the poverty where like I think the big was bad experience with some of the Games that can con- like if I had sixth grade games win a loss I would have pornographers burn out as much The fact my my experience was yeah. That's a couple of other hints that you know So I asked the What's what's advisable some hints. That you would You would share in hobby. Burn out if I look at step. Adores talked about You know for funding some of these projects that you might have had as low priorities innocent things that look fun whether it's GonNa be the square model. Where the Ritz you know the mosque of sluggish. You can either play around with them in paint them up or potentially with property needs to keep bashing again Goatee out you bitch. Box and go create some amazing pieces. I saw the other day. It was today actually. Barcelo someone Forty K. troll so the truck off we'd like to mechanical bodies that had like five legs and also like very forty K. esque but have some fun with it. do do you Explore Something Iman never explored before What else I know. You're on Rocco for example in taking a whole bunch of people tabletop. Cmo I know people being taking blunt ball teaching different things. The list of building as well has been Again giving back to the community has been really helpful of an Tim. Barklay the The Ozzy War Gamer has mentioned things like setting goals in seeking feedback from other. C- are always learning working on different things like trade in brake work on things terrain whether it's painting terrain whether it's building your arm terrain from say compressed foam or against someone who three-day prints it for you. Not He's he's he's got a tournament open. Is You know things like you mentioned earlier about Forty one of the Rings. Pass hits hits. May you know he's he's really enjoyed. Exploring things like forty K. In Middle Earth you know taking those little breaks. Try something different and then pallet. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Even though we are in ages Sigma Shar main Ash. I've been thinking about doing like a little full of forty k just so we can like break it up and there's like one army but speaks to me louder than anything else and that is true. Qari 'cause it's legitimately just aim emails. I was expecting you to be liquids person personally. I don't know how that makes me feel but yeah I'm that as well but But like but like it's just been one of the things we're looking at like and that's another thing that's been helping out with the. Brennan has been looking at other games like I've been looking at forty K. I looked at Warcry I looked at warcry again. I was like what can I get? It will cry and you know he is. I combine any of it is because of the stores class but I do have a very large shopping list. What have I have? Klay doesn't mind if I share this but one of the cleats Right now is he's building out a Sikh sedition. We'll have a fantasy. He's old on dead or the Vampire Council buying old models that he had his childhood and re painting a fifteen hundred. Two Thousand Point. One Thousand Point Army with only models from that era so he's hunting down three bind cells and ebay and applying the new techniques. That he he loves today to create a Better Romney that he would have had as a kid which I think as a passion project that's exceptional at something that again without this environment you would have never thought of that and you never would have done pretty cool especially since he's sodexho deaf army. That's pretty Bola like for the the old world was that Have been talked about or if nothing more is GonNa look great on his hobby space that he has all our old kits like the all vampires lap. You know that Swale your middle ghouls like that's a cool project and he's pint. These pilots transformed. I've attended fifteen years since he was a kid. Yeah I can't even as I'm looking right now at Miami's I'm looking at my check on me and my The army in the space of a year. I can already see my painting approving say like my went back to that effect on me which. I'm not going to do that for the time but I could definitely tell that it would be a different look. say an APP and on the other people's will offend will benefit in. You know I usually paint in batches of like ten to twenty on average like I'll pay twenty models at a time. I'm a horde player so I play a lot of horror. Surprise would play by that. I paint a lot of hordes in that style to undo batches of twenty two batches of thirty. Some people have sex me potted it hates bells anyway. That people have found rule benefits Slowing that in and bring it back to units of five will use of ten yards of one just painting singular models again without the rush of Maple Woods hyme love and focus and I enjoy paying. Gear IS MOVING UNITS. Then pay on your heroes. If you're struggling right now and you go buy a bunch of heroes. You've got like the old request to hold onto here is in that go guy. That's why I'm excited cat across. That's why I'm excited. Do that conversion of a shrine. That's why I'm excited to do like all this stuff is because the heroes and the Senate models kinda crosses the Houston based model but Yeah it's it's old Is Keeping me saying? I think there's a lot of different things to consider when it comes to our again a mental health. It's a challenging time and it's important not to put too much pressure. I talking to some people in our this. This is a hobby is ultimately a hobby. It's not a profession. This has been to walk. Join like that printer brain spot. I bring spot joy on a child that the point is is that they should bring fun and Without these tournament deadlines without things that if Olsen you to do something that you know you've got to do take advantage guy find your fame confide your jam and and shared. I think sharing is probably the last piece off vice is that nothing has been more is when I share a hobby. Progress photo or something that I've completed and put it on INSTAGRAM PUERTA. On facebook put on twitter. Put where WanNa put it on my social group and getting feedback and people say. Hey I love that game like what you did. Well Don looks great. You know that that's rewarding and And Yeah People. People generally pretty caught The Not just because you know one you cheered that people generally kind of hobbies are Put Put yourself out there and that will keep the hobby juices flowing game. I kind of positive reinforcement. Even when I have I would like ride a list and send it out to people and just getting people's feedback good or bad. It was like it was good. I was like sick excited like nothing but other things and stuff like the. The biggest debate was shadow. Warriors against hot renders. But like that kind of thing just got me back into the Mijo. Like what am I looking for when I'm writing like a list which was like my favorite part of the hobby was building and building armies. So Yeah funnily enough. My favorite part of the hobby is building yet. I really enjoy the building component. And I've got a whole bunch of spreads that I haven't built and that's why that's one of the first things I did was built my Lord of change. I haven't painted having planned it but I realize it. Now you really like the smell of plastic glued. Since I thought it relaxing I joined scraping moat lines. I'll be happily commissioning GILDA. I Dunno I just really enjoy the process and keep bashing obviously is a lot of fun as well but spending time. Doing what you what you enjoy. And chipping away making small pieces of progress. You'll be surprised if he just do a little bit of progress every day every week you'll look back at his time and realized how you've come by during small little progress steps and enduring things like hobby hangouts while on skype on zoom on Youtube. Keeps you motivated along the way? Yeah exactly I really just now every time now. I'm looking at this cabinet members. I just wanted to help me now. It's been good like a kid out. These led lights. Sparked by join. They got dirt bike guy by so led lights in. Show off your stuff. Yeah like if anyone needs led lights of picking right wants. Hit me up on twitter. I'm more than happy to. Led lights such fun but Yeah it's even like as we said life had been like honestly if really feeling the burn out just clear your hobby space and fight you. I bet you like when I cleaned up my hobbies space about six months ago I found so much shave I completely forgot. I had like I've realized I had. I had like about a thousand points of deep Cambridge. I sold but apparently I didn't like it. Is Cleveland Value? Start realizing like this cool things that he can do. I found some third edition. Cheerleaders from my own fled ball and in the old woking. Folks are surprising. I found the Goblin green paints as well. I'm organized. Oh my paints by colors on Iraq of of clean out on my paintbrushes. I got like the mazdas pleading Little things that Acidini off the success. Yeah which is a good stop any final. I feel like we're kind of wrapping up here. Is there any final comments thoughts about Hobie burnout? That you WANNA make before we close out If your hobby burnout is mental health We do have a mental health episode. We did in November Simba was just before Christmas December. I haven't listened to that guy like we talked about. Like how to Kinda like help you out. We'll kind of stuff and genetic Kinda similize welby. We talked about other things like critic Goto and everything as well as like especially during these tough times of isolation stuff everyone present mentally. Okay I myself going through it Recently but I've been getting back up which has been good and yeah like We talk about a whole bunch of stuff. That could probably help you out. So that's another thing when it comes to Hobby Bananas. No probably just from you doing the hub. Ac Much or might not be working might be mental health kind of thing so yeah that's the one I would like to add a lot going on There's a lot going on shared with a few people. Might one of my biggest piece of advice is right now is turn off the news. I feel like a lot of people are addicted to the news right now and that is creating a whole bunch of pressure. Now they'll say not to inform yourself. What I am saying is really think about the influences. That are happening. I've because you'll being influenced in your behaviors or affecting all his serve. You feeling that the mental pressures the social pressures of concern about your job security. Because you're seeing the judy pay for or whatever it might be happening. It may not be real and it's important just to to step away sometimes. There's not a constant feed on yourself. Yeah because of his taxi entire. It really is when you're looking at the news. Twenty four seven trying to wait for the latest piece of news and hearing about Daffy hearing about job loss of hearing about things closing and then you got the purchase of social media. That's really draining. And that's nice. I'm going to give some people vice with what's going on right now as when it comes to the NAYS Giggle just find one source that you trust and just check every now and then. That's it like needs like check. It twenty four seven. Check it once a day. Be Like what's up in like it's at one news. 'cause like what's going on with the Internet at the moment is like there is like thirty articles coming up every so like an hour. Optics minute every minute. Just constant constant constant but like half it is literally descent so they can just get at revenue. Kinda think Muslims websites have ads everywhere? That's literally what they like pumping out these things out. Fine at one news person like if you like channel seven Chow seven of your round the World Garcia one. You like the most and just listen to them like once so often like you know like I myself realized that when I searched up on my all God is a thirty different articles have two very specific which ones I look at kind of thing and like I even had a cosmic come up to me today being like all ahead you guys closing down and I'm like I work here and I have not been told anything so I love how you know this before I did. I just quickly looked it up and I was like just saying that's not real news and she was just like. Oh well I just looked it up and I was like I know you did because I just did. And what you read is wrong. And she's like Oh okay and I was like did not every single new thing is rice to discuss it on you trust and like. That's it yet. Leads disconnect. Turn off your social media your taste digital taxes to enough the news. Talk stay on Netflix. Stay on whatever he brings you joy like if if playing video games drink some downtime is your thing guy for like if you like what is it if you enjoy listening to spotify all cost us do that and if they bring up what's going on in the world like listen to that bit but don't look back at it just like the pretty crappy. Tom Right now but once things will ever in like six to eighteen months old wherever long thinking like it's GonNa be old uphill as I said The you know my my closing quizzes at all in this together. I can't stress enough. How important community is. And if you don't have a thriving community trying to find one we'll start one the other day. I put out a postal. I facebook groups and I said introduce yourself I tell us. When did you first thought WILHELMA What's your favorite army? What was your first match What's the next This morning I put at asking. What's the first thing that Yuna by when Games workshop? Reopens you see the change that you wanna see the world and if people off feeling down feel free to step up and an Oslo questions to schedule that Hobie hang out to post authors fertilize if you are looking for community I have these court link down below in the charts but night pressure to join mind. Go find another one. God Go hang out with your own group just hang out with paypal. It's physical abuse to sing. Not Social distancing. You don't have to socially disconnect from others exactly and if anyone gets into tabletop simulator south of disco because Avi frigging place but yeah that's a great show laid off. I feel like when she got a commission from this as a really good tool having damage optus on pretty sure that they're writing a lot of downloads to be fair. I don't think it is good. And it's GonNa be giving you your agency. Ma Hit without being out to physically planned the table. Talk Laham was absolutely lovely to have you back welcome back. It's been a long time people being asking for you to return Replaced you clint us into Heraldo. Heralds awards per point that I said not yet lost jets. It's IT'S OKAY. I'm I'm just be like I'm deck to be back. It's good to talk about we'll him? Oh forget miss it more often. Yeah do Hayes more often. Let us know what I'm talking about more what we're GonNa talk about next episode. We'll make some things up and is always in. Con- section is at twitter handles. If you've got an idea for a show you talk to us into its law. Unity a hobby progress. We does as well like. I'd love to say wait. Lock to see what you're currently working on Sir Do send them across either on the coach facebook page. Where the discord? Whether it's on twitter. Whatever your your media choices the Juices flowing and it's firing run seeing everyone's hobby projects makes me want to do more especially considering the moment which will see how these cool. Gog and some people do on people voting goggin poured Narbonne the al the grinder awesome kids. I caught. Why people do it with luminescent. 'cause I'm seeing that. Gog and stuff and it's incredible people can get into these new kids in it's going to be a drain off. Yeah I said I'm waiting for the doors. Came on because they look in the Georgia caine under wells. Look six six account white. Yeah it's GonNa be great like Conway. Can you knock just conway kids? You not all right. Well if you enjoyed this make sure to subscribe like do all that stuff that I meant to say because youtuber like whatever the bubble Blah thanksgiving patriots who kicked his show Going and making me all that expensive pasta and rice now normally make a joke about Ross is a million dollars keillor's Thank you everyone you know who you are you guys legends and Liam. Let's do it again soon. it was great to have you and I hope you found this valuable tame on and you found a way to take his hobby field going. If you've talked about something that we haven't discussed in you WANNA share it putting the comments all let us know because this is a trying time and lots going on so pace out until next time. Magar watch the witch. Oh yes it's six episodes do it. One wants to many. I'll come back to go back to Joy Joy. Just watch it. Then you can understand how awesome it is. But he's doing well hammer by say talk.

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Giant Bombcast 617: Bathtub Full of Food

Giant Bombcast

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Giant Bombcast 617: Bathtub Full of Food

"Okay Jan Jan fourteenth. Yes to Tuesday. Tuesday Newsday bomb casts check. We changed the name of the show. HOW MOUTH WORKED WORD SETS? That's the name. Congratulations Microphone podcast. Hello Hi Rusty here. Yeah what's happening. How do we do this? Yes you certainly haven't done any podcasting over the weeks no sadly was not able to yes. something stop for nothing TELO happening on this January fourteenth of Twenty Twenty Eddie back. We've been a little bit. Yeah I have a question for yes during your time away. How many times did you drink zero? Why it's in in my head? I was imagining you on a beach. Just go no no. No beach was not about to head to the drinks in coconut southern hemisphere no drinks and a coconut. A uh-huh definitely ties here at the office. Sometimes you just gotTa get away from all right right now I did. I did go to Filipino wedding over. Oh got got to experience a money dance. Oh for the first time it is very sad one crew were bride does not get money and it totally how this this guy and bride both cleaned up. Fantastic what I could see okay as a Filipino thing. Yes so you you safety pin dollar bills. It's supposed to be dollar bills to you are the brighter grooming you kind of make clothing and sash a crown. My Buddy when he got married only had five dollars onto him ten minutes Santos meanwhile his wife new new bride was like decked out. This was just kind of like hovered. Yeah so we had to make them Dollar Bill Underpants. Had this very sad. That's really depressing. I was getting mixed messages from people that was there with about how much sure you stand to essentially like Some people were like guy you might get a couple of hundred bucks total and then another somebody else said like you get five or ten grand. Oh yeah the right company or their other separate cards with their you already giving a gift of some yeah right in. In addition to the cash up so this is an additional in that case fibers would be like I guess it depends on how high rolling your company is. Oh totally you have a rich on. That's about to die. Just killer and ticket right bullock's you're encouraged to only do dollar bills. But then like okay within the Filipino community. You WanNa stunt on each other course like fuck you. I have three hundred dollars right here. Here's now like a crown. Okay one more question. I saw somebody go up with like the stack in the palm. Just doing this was that an old man. No it might have been somebody. Who was there with Oak? Does that bad form. No that is encouraged. Okay they were straight of making it rain fantastic. It was a mess. What are their cultures? Have this today. I know Armenian weddings have something very similar of like. I've been to a couple of dancing. I didn't I know the The background though I love it I know code ended a video with his assistance wedding where he very much made it rain on them. Yeah Very I'm just relating what I watch on Youtube most interesting. What else have you seen on Youtube Hall? Put me on the spot. I have not really good sleeping. Video called starship quarters noise. I played every night. Sleeping video. Okay yes purebred noise for ten hours. I downloaded a white noise. AP apparently apparently downloaded a white noise. That for my phone own sometime ago and I was looking at my apple. TV and I was looking at like what apps do I own on this thing and it was like white noise APP and I was like well. Fuck it I'll download and Iran and it has like like twenty different noises or whatever whatever and I started playing it and then I quit out of it and walked away and then I walked back into the room. It sounded like there was rain. It was raining outside by the way. That's maybe important It sounded like water was running in my closet down the walls or something and I was like Oh shit. There's a hole in my roof like what the fuck is going on. I realized that the APP was somehow still making noise out of my speakers. Yeah out of my home theater stuff and I was like what the fuck and fuck like Apple. TV Nightmare austrade. quit out of that APP has the worst remote control of any. It's it is a garbage dump. It is his worst piece of fucking trash. Every time I pick that thing up I managed to cancel everything. Go back to the main menu and just pause everything because upside down it just sucks so Joanie Oni. What are you doing? It's fucking trash quit. He's probably had his hands on he's on retainer heard he stopped stepped away from all the iphone unlike physical design stuff so work on their headquarters before he left so he was just doing that last year. So again I WANNA make a building all right. What's bigger than a building? I'm GonNa go make that somehow. You're not making anything bigger bigger than a building here. All right I got to go pete. I've been knighted young. Find all of the ten hours of starship enterprise that I find online even have a little too much computer sound in there. Yeah I just want the white noise of engines in the background nonstop like beeping beeping. This is not a a licensing recent thing it's called starship. Sleeping quarters on our ship is a generic term They have a nice little backstory in the description. But what. I'm off to slim. Baria four with a slim bargains organs are thirty. It's just so white noise I find over. Time has gotten pretty harsh to Brown. Noise is really really low and you put I use a Bluetooth speaker. Put it under my pillow and just like fucking baby was independent. Picking Roy also too harsh me. Okay what did what did they ever do. That episode sewed episode of our entire civilization based on sleep. You're nine hours. The people where everybody has to die at the age of sixty did did the people who have sex constantly or if you what was the one where was he got. They didn't murdered for throwing football with most of them. I think it was the same one because reicher would have shown up and tried to fuck the sleep aliens and that's not okay. True he did have a habit of that consent. When there's in exactly okay no certainly not gotta get this podcast off the rails right before even? Let's open my mouth. That's why we bring you in. The deal derailed fees of the rails. That's right rail. Splitter Glitter Ben is on assignment here in replacing. What's new top three things from last weekend? Let's see I go around the table so not last night but the two nights before it. So we we wake up to three times per night. Baby go feed a baby. You got a baby. That's the law the rule book. They're demanding yes that's like ten. PM and then like a two away am and then like a five am you give or take not last night but the two nights before it waking up at two. AM The house has smelled of skunks. Thanks oh no baby turned into a skunk. Yeah also the baby turned into a skunk. I don't know if that's related or not. No shape changing baby. Yeah this is. This is a nightmare. Like the whole house stinks and it was fucking ridiculous and it seems like that. Maybe some skunks were fighting or fucking or both. I don't know what I don't know what happened but like my driveway. Basically like the whole front on my house just reeks like there was a skunk and it's sprayed something gross and so that spray got onto both our cars. Oh ooh boy and so. I went out yesterday and bought some. Just go to the car wash and say give me the tomato juice and then pour it on the inside of the car because it's the inside. Yeah well now. It's the inside that stand with the outside doesn't smell anymore. But yeah somehow the undercarriage everywhere the inside so I went and bought some animal repellent from the store which turns out to just be like pepper corns or something. It's just different strength for animals or humans. It's like pepper spray the bare spots because otherwise you could fuck up the bears right. Well this is just sprinkle they was. They had a spray but the spray instructions were like put it on the flowers. You don't WanNa get eaten and I'm like no you don't understand and also that one didn't have the picture of skunk on it. I wanted one that had a picture of a skunk honor that specifically specifically 'cause there was a bunch of justice and get those varmints out and I'm like no I need to know that this particular varmint is not okay with this. You can't just fucking give me generic and Eric varmint juice. I'm GONNA be honest. This is not sound like a top three weekends. Sounds like it would be near the body. Hey look dominated conversation all right. I mean it's blowing up up on social okay fair anyway so I sprayed. I poured all that yesterday driving a lot of engagement around the house. Yeah and then so I but I still got in the car this morning and it was like Pula. Pula bad skunk problem ready so yeah I had my son. I have my skunk problem. I got a burger and wanted to order a specific civic way and the motherfuckers put an onion ring on. It got teammates now and and on a single in it was the size of the Burger. I mean it wasn't like oh no pinner ass. Onion rings full-size onion that also happens. That's that's That sucked and sorry that I drove really far to go to a Walmart to get baby toys. Yes order came in and I picked it up and it. The whole thing was a nightmare but at least the pickup process for this thing. Now you've got back to some backups. Yeah well so it was the thing we were trying to replace a panda looking chime Yang. See another the kid is GonNa hate that panda thing. Well so the things we got are not panned as their elephants. Okay it's the same toy ed but like if you look at the label on the new one you look at it and go like this Hot Mr Chimes Panda Slash Elephant. And I'm like Oh that's just it's just a sorted like these two they make and you can't specify I I want the panda. So we got to elephants. They didn't been them several years. Just whatever came off the factory exactly. Yeah basically yeah and there was a whole thing where originally only accidentally ordered six of these things but they cancelled four of them. Because they the thing's been discontinued defense rooted around some Walmart warehouse and found two of these fucking elephants. And I got those and the kid is destined to hate them within like a month. I'm sure she'll be like I'm done with all these times. Overall garbage. Sounds like a pretty weak top three for a weekend. I I to be honest. Well the people working on arcade cores for the Mr have been doing. Some gangbusters work phenomenal watch out. That sounds bad gets what are you doing. Are you following along. Like live or they. Are they tweeting out all this. Yes I'm looking at hub. An looking at as they as they do stuff for for sure because a lot of games run on pacman hardware. You know it was a popular game so there's a lot of like hey rip these chips out. Some of them are bootlegs. Legs like hey rip these ships out and put these chips and you can play a bootleg of this other game on pacman hardware and so instead of having to download separate things for each individual the game. They've been like hey. We're just gonNA adapt pacman hardware stuff to run multiple games. According to Wikipedia that hardware is actually called NAMCO PAC man. Yeah that's probably right in the name of that system that arcade platform. Yeah that's probably that's sounds about right. An eight bit Arcade Game System Board glaxy glaxy and also a ton and scramble rally x game was also widely modifiable. Show jump shot jump shot and shoot the bowl game the bullseye actual seriously are these stories. Is that you don't know exactly what was from your downloading files which are cores for this. PGA and you can also download the whole thing could pilot yourself. Which sometimes I do When I when I want to feeling frisky yeah exactly? When there's like someone just checked in something hot? Like Joe. The gameboy advance core has cheats. Now and I'm like that sounds fun Vaughn. I'm GonNa compile that myself right now sounds exciting. It is exciting. It's like modding Kinda like yeah. It's like watching them them. Do all this work that I've yeah I don't know bigger. Nudity MoD is come out for witcher three and I have to update to that. Well yeah that's exactly. I can play tapper or some Tory tapper root beer tapper tapper. Well there's a Simpson's tapper that's like a hack so someone could potentially do a nude hack for tapper. We could probably set that up for you. Did you watch the winter I have not. It's anybody watch it. Yes it takes a little while to get the first couple of episodes I I was like I don't know I really slow. It definitely picks up behind switches pretty awkward like university just kind of like the the main character most and around that gets third third episode. Things start coming together ever heard people talking about was the song from it The song is impossible to escape. I heard I I have not heard you. I heard of some kind of dub step cover some kind of cover of it but I also heard something to that effect. I'm not going to be the your warm academic chunk of the holidays beseeching. My girlfriend's stop singing. That's just I think it's gone now awfully. Don't sing it okay. Yeah I was coming in. Oh Shit yeah there it is. Oh no all these are based on the books right. So is that why it's like. Yeah but super dense yeah but the Henry cavill performances thousand percent the game version of Carrollton. Sure they're not even trying to hide it. Well he loves video games right. I don't know if you've heard he's a PC guy. I don't know if you've heard that he loves video. Games typically loves peace. Hey guys let's right right more news articles about how much this man loves video game. That's how many articles were written. Oh my God I know which platform he prefers you know. Video Games top story new segment play the music when they said xbox playstation he indignantly said a PC video games personal computer probably windows probably Windows under a boon to in wine though. If he's not doing that. He's not a real gamer. Henry Henry Henry Video Games right. These Super Alien Australian British British every actress Australia. Now sure bet with them. He loves them. Play plays them celebritydom. Awesome US magazine. This just in Henry cavill is just like US celebrities. They're just go out and do they. Go Get ice cream cones yes come home and play play PC. PC Games on the BBC. He claims that the phone call to let him know that he got the part of Superman because he was playing. Well that'll so he says Oh. Aw How is so multi task though. Because he's not he plays it man he's not like you log in and do his dailies. He's in there making it hapless. He's managing a guild. Did you video games braids or not yet on farm status. Still got to pay attention to what he's doing. Anybody got any video games. We'll talk about that are not played or enjoyed by Henry cavill speaking allow and I think most of my games possible. He has a broad broad range of interests. I understand I played a personal computer game called a tennis to A. Oh yeah go on absolutely. Yeah no unfortunately these. These players are all closed Australian Open. Yes Australian Open. I hear that's going swimming. They realize oh boy. Oy It's I tend to Yeah no it'd be. It plays pretty well. I haven't spent a ton of time with it but I just like I was intrigued by like hey man. They don't make a lot of tennis games anymore so I was magic. Virtual tennis to be recaptured that again. Yeah it's it's I mean it's easily to it's easy to pick up and play it but I don't know that I would go so I call it straight up Arcadi it does have a Somewhat robust looking character creator. That will let you import Japex I didn't see any Kenny Omega sitting there though I figured 'cause because even create venues the list of everything everything you can do in a wrestling game but in a tennis game intros and stuff. No but yeah no. It's maybe you could get some pyro in there. That'd be cool but like I looked in there and it was like someone had made Roger Federer. Sounds like that's fine but I want. Oh you mean I mean the billionaire tennis player. Yes or or they're not actual like license. I assume there are. I have no idea. I have no idea who the Australian Open tennis. Okay individuals are they could be real they might not they look very real real people better. That's a name I've heard of. Yeah I would assume that if he punk Chris Benoit's those characters. I expect to see in a create a character. It's weird because I don't know if you get the license to the Tennis Association and you get the players to I'm assuming it's probably different like the NBA. Who Classic big it might be or specifically because they got the Australian Open that license made me? There's specific players come with that is I don't know but I did like that. You could create characters and map japex onto the faces but it think gave it gave me no guidance as to what the JP should look like you know how to do this by a What you need to know what size or where in the frame the head needs to be all that stuff like there was no didn't seem like there was any like move the J. Peg after applying applying the J. Peg? I chose upload it was just it was just a picture of it was going to work but I had a picture of my wife. I'm just going to throw this on there. And it was like her face on the guys. Nick and I was like that's weird cooler but no let's not go with that didn't seem like I could fix it but your wife some guys neck no absolutely not no absolutely not and and and so I I messed around with a little bit. Maybe the controls were there and I just missed them but You know what I remember. Virtual tennis the most what to shadows host. Okay off of lately or fractions lights. Man This dreamcast thing. Yeah lights on this guy now. Yeah it was a big deal. I was going to the future. I guess when that lasts more tennis didn't really make a huge splash. It didn't kind of because that was like the attempts to make tennis. Well also. Yeah right I was GONNA say yeah. That didn't do with the maybe video games. Tennis is not I think doing it anymore. I think it was. I think the depth they went for was maybe a little off putting to some players though it was a little hard. Yeah did you not just play it like virtual tennis you could but then you were like system for like breaking racquets dot enough. I just right okay. No it sounds like especially online players. Were just getting worked cutthroat out there. Yeah Oh yeah I don't want I don't want to three players in Mario Tennis. Just WanNa play and have fun. Yeah it wouldn't let me do that. That's a fair expectation Anyway I yeah we maybe I'll play that on. UPS or something like that but it's it sure seems like a tennis game. Yes and that is enough. Probably for a Lotta people sure That are that are in the market for that That New Dragon Ball Games out this week. The expectations or hopes and some dreams. I hope they made it better since I since I played it any three because it seemed really need the pacing just felt really slow hello world and just getting from place to place took time and the making that trek was not always fun on or interesting. The random encounters out pop random droids were also kind of break overlays transition you to fight like RPG style. No now you're just fighting people out in the world. Well yeah it does kind of swivel into a fight now you and your fighting the fight until you finish it pretty much. So it's an open world. Kind of experts sounds side question. You know you're finding also stuff. Were also doing stuff that old kind of time or into the Classic Dragon. Ball Z story S. Goku Goku go go. Yeah yeah that's good coke is true name yes. Is it really saying name. Yeah I thought he was wasn't a story. He crashes to Earth and this is like it's okay so on earth has to name something now. I understand people who loves video games. Does he just like yes. He's just like US answer. Man It's there's some really impressive stuff going on visually the way I like the look of it but then also anytime it had to cut scene like the dialogue was so just like line pause dine pause just had no flow to do it just like they was. It felt very old in that in that regard so I don't know I'm hoping that what I played three was was very much demo. No so hopefully. They've cleaned all that up. I don't remember how far do they say it's going to go is going to go all the way to the boost did say and I say I'm I'm tempted to say it goes to the cell games because that's what everything does but rate but that's actually that same story after like watching it and playing are there so many times I mean someone who very much did not play any of those games. They've all been awful. Says the will feature the BOO arc. Work Okay how many different developers are working on dragon ball game sound bite at any given time. There's anywhere from seven to forty different teams log war hammer okay The the fighting game last year was a different. This is not the same nothing system. Yeah Yeah and they just there's a there's like the Zeno Verse Games. The card game that was in arcades only made it to council last year. Yeah there's some kind of figuring game this gone Yeah Manga or the on May still going on in Japan. No Dragon Dragon ball super just wrapped up in the US. Okay recently relative relatively recently sometime last year. Did they ever find the dragon balls do that numerous times. Yeah what did they wish for their friends. They they basically like all the people we fucked up and got killed. Let's bring back okay are for love okay as for someone to die and you can't wish for anything that is more More power you can't bring back any one that's more powerful than the Dragon. Okay yeah I I think I read this book I WanNa make sure I had an offer and then different sets of dragon balls will have different rules so the original set other allows one wish they make some new ones later that gives you. Three wishes can't wish from overseas. No you just get the dragon but dragons. Yeah okay all right. Yeah thank you for the education I have not. I'm not up on my. Let's talk about the black dragon balls. Oh boy so the whole different set. Oh Yeah but they've added whole different show. Those are there. I don't know I think it's always sunny. It's usually seven there's dragging balls the size of world sled. Yeah Jayme rant giant wishes well yeah they wish is his big wishes. Mario Three John Cena. Yeah you got to win a tournament though everything in Dragon Ball. It's guaranteed dragon balls and tournaments and things getting bigger. Yes okay escalating escalate the numbers. The numbers get higher. Replay that NARUTO world game. The soft did back on the three sixty I try. I thought that was interesting. I remember people not even a Naruto fan but it was just like wow. This is an anime open world game. That is actually quite cool. Yeah Look it looked pretty he needs to it. Can it can be done yeah nothing's cool Yeah I remember I did not get into it but I remember people that care. Anything and wearing headbands. Wow that game must have been popular. I want to area. Fifty one distinctive form of running. I've been fiddling around everything I've been fiddling around with Wadham. Has Anybody played that. Yeah that's charming Wadham. The hell is that gave about him the drugs to about drugs. You know it is fuck man I. I don't know how to M- I granted. Granted I came to category later the most people I think and I never played nobody no boy a and D do anything else between those. I don't his Oh so you the mayor and your hands and I was just GonNa say I don't know if I'm like less. Immunized to his brand of weirdness than most people but like I have seen of it does it looked as if maybe maybe like again I didn't I didn't. I'm not the game but like I spent the first thirty minutes with this game. Just like in increasingly high pitched tones going. Like what the fuck is it more a toy than would you call it because it is just like. Hey there's a bunch of stuff often there's a bunch of interactions with that stuff going around. Those interactions are individualized. Things kind of open up. It took me while to Mechanically figured out what it reminded me of and and it actually hit me this morning. do you remember stacking the double find adventure game. Yeah it's that thing of you can. It's like a big world with people like interacting with each other on their own but you can take take control of any of them at any time okay and most of them have a unique ability. protects real action type thing. It's kind of that okay. It's kind of just as big so geist just like guys. Yeah yeah except the geist. If your main gameplay loop was eating other people okay you may as well be helping them out gotten well actually sorry sucking them up in a giant tree turn them into fruit and then eating the fruit route sometimes. Then pooping out the fruit as poop. Okay and then having a big sentient toilet show up having toilet flushed the poop so that comes was out of Shiny Golden Poop Mu Pasta poop and then giant bowling pan shows up and wants you to stack poops. Okay until you get a stack of poop that is exactly the same height as the giant Bullington. Great and then they can you get too much become yes absolutely and the bowling pin. Lets you know that you're too tall mother fucker but when you get exactly the right height they become prey friends also yes. The mayor wears a magic bowler hat hat. Everybody's very impressed with that has a bomb underneath it. He can blow shit blow up and they are also very excited about that. They'd love it. They fucking love. I think it might be incredible. I'm not one hundred percents. I didn't think it's amazing. The music specially cool is absurd enough to tie it together in a really incredible way. I installed it in forgotten installed. How man check it out? It's really something. GOLLY quest names like every time you've I'm kind of finishing action that just another question POPs up and they don't tell you what to do after that you just sort of infer from the name of the next objective. That's fun what you should do. It's a strange thing But I am pretty into it cool. How deep into it as you're not that far yeah? I didn't get to the poops okay. Okay Yeah I didn't get that far okay. I think I got the gist of it. And I'm like okay. I'm GONNA come back when I'm drunk or something that seems to be made for and I haven't had a drink for like almost a half of the source of things. Yes what is going by the wayside. Remind you of everything. The video games way more Gamey. That's like that things seemed like tecmo right like yeah it seemed like a scripted. A bunch of objects through them together to the extent that we don't even make you play it you can just hit a button and let it do its there. Yeah cool This is not. It's kind of like that right. Like they will mill around and do stuff like it's all new to figure out what the next actual objective is and they do that. I mean actual objective is pretty good pretty differentiator from devastator has things that it wants you to do. It doesn't exactly tell you what they are but you just you need to see it and hear it in action and get it just play it. Yeah I I I keep meaning to I like I said it's I kind of like the weird thing about the EPA game aim store is. I mentioned this round game with your time is I'm just not in the habit of looking at it or loading it on a regular basis. So unless there's something like control where I'm just like I'm actively coming back to this because I need to play this game. I really WANNA play this game or I completely forget that store and it's games exist you'll have desktop notifications turn on for the game. I don't launch the epic game launcher often. Even look you can look at it. I like it because you get the free game every can install. They're doing free games every every day over the whole game which looked really interesting. The Metro Venus. Oh Oh man sound right zero dollars allers. Yeah I did my my like. What did you play the most on playstation four? This morning for what you could do that. which can you know? Find an accurate. I don't know yeah my top three. Were mortal Kombat Apex Legends and Borderlands. Three what I I played a lot of borderlands three in the process call all of duty. Would've I've laid on a PC okay so it makes sense so now with destiny. I only played that on and then it gets down a little with lower. There's another number for like because it says how much time you spent using playstation plus so apex doesn't count for that free to play game you don't eat plus to play it Right so it was like the game you played online most on. ps four this year anthem. Our and I was like. What did I sleeve anthem because I mostly plays out? PC RUN it. Yeah like what the bug where I remember standing on a platform waiting for a mission to end. What are they telling you? Read something weird about those things are. We're yeah this is I. There's no way play death stranding for one hundred twenty two hours. I I totally believe that I played. I played a good bit of deaths ramming but that seems insane. I do that a lot. Time menu are the game running overnight or something like that. I remember leaving it on that much. There's probably three day build an awful lot of highways a man. What does that game okay? Now compared to when it came out played it so all bill. Oh Hi I went into this break or actually a ways before the break started. Let's say I was looking forward to the break. Thinking death stranding might be the number one game aim. I was looking forward to getting back to didn't touch. And then we had our game of the year conversation right where I heard about everything in the last few hours. Yeah but I never even launched during this holiday. Yeah Man I actually had a friend booted up over the week this past weekend kind of barren. Oh really yeah. I guided him through the early parts of the game. We kinda made it to chapter three. Okay where like stuff starts. That's where the stuff is real that initial tutorial. Yes I'll just ladders from your plan stuff but yeah just like a couple random signs now I I don't know if they won't open up roads just yet you like get to build them yourself but it was kind of buried just like a couple of loose package. Yeah my thing my sense that I could be wrong about this early on was that your stuff starts breaking down after two weeks issue right. That's when I started getting messages relative to when I started playing the game I started seeing the messages ages of like. Hey you're climbing gear near central. Dodd is yes grade. Last time I played I got a bunch of the right notification guessing between between like probably two and four weeks fixes when your stuff breaks down so it definitely been long enough since launched a couple of months. Well I wonder like no start disappearing. Death Strand feels like a game that people make their decisions about pretty early on on right like the people that are like clued enough to video games and the things around them. Are The people most likely to know that game exists. Yeah period and they're the ones that are going to buy launch and play it or or you know by the launch not play it or decide. They're never going to buy it and so I wonder if that's the case of just like hey like people played it and moved on. I would believe that the biggest thing to me is. I'm surprised that the developers wouldn't maybe bend the rules a little bit kind of goose the installation population of stuff. So that's the thing. I would assume that they do that so I have to imagine they do. That is like okay. We know how many items we WANNA pull in every time we hit a server right. I think that's the thing I've been most fascinated about about about this game. As how they do those determinations right and seeing you hear you say that it's like kind of baron. Yeah it makes me wonder if yeah he did. He didn't go through the normal pass that I would go through so I'm assuming he didn't refuse to let climb mountains and stuff he would go round them So I'm wondering like he just missed them even when he'd like our wants to get the little people to see the area and everything just not a bunch of stuff popping up. Yeah I wonder if chapter three is far. Aren't into where you really see Totta okay. Because I was in chapter three you from pre release playing win. Actual launch album played like that first weekend. It it was fucking everywhere now vehicle. Yeah you're right. Yeah ankles piled on top of vehicles just junk all over the place. Yeah I wonder if like the people that are still playing a game or like picked it up over. The holiday are further in where he wouldn't see a lot of stuff popping up like maybe like in the later chapters rise literally shit verb. Everyone's early game stuff is already deteriorating. Radio wiped away right. Yeah I would just assume that they would own. Here's players. Put these things down. They got a lot of likes. So when someone new comes along we're gonNA pull a mix of highlights and low like items from the Games lifespan. Because we know that will be useful or the right amount of useful. Tonight's players coming to it but I wonder wonder if they were just like not our rules really deteriorates. We're not gonNA make this good. We're going to stick to our thing to their vision. Yeah sometimes you gotta be that right right. I mean that's what you guys are going to help each other. Fuck all there are how many nukes are left on these Ford operating bases. It's a real number and and I couldn't tell if he was. He's a big Kojima fans. I couldn't tell if he was legitimately liking it or forcing himself to like it. You know one of the early delivery missions is. You're delivering a body. And I was looking at his face the whole time. See if he would crack really. You'RE GONNA you're not gonNA say anything you you've been playing this game for five minutes. We've watched cut scenes for like almost two hours. Now you're you're gonNA take this face value. Yep You like this you liked it not all right all right. I don't want to put on anyone's fun. Yeah people there. I think I think there are people who liked that game. And they're genuine about it. I don't I don't think people are necessarily lying themselves like they might be wrong. But that's fine. Late chapter three day period is like the that was the point when does genuinely liked that game. Yeah Yeah I wasn't even like blind myself or whatever it was genuinely Italy. Pretty engrossed in that thing at that point I think he was expecting something more closer to two metal gear. They're being a lot of action and and then I told him like yeah. You should avoid killing people because it could receive really mess up your time He kinda seemed turned off by it. But then like when the camera pulls back for the first time unlike the music's kicking in he was digging it but then he forgot about the mechanic of holding like bracing yourself so you fell down a fucking mountain. It was hilarious while like low Roy. Playing high listen. I know I'll try and check in with them. See if anything else pops up. Yeah that'd be interesting. I want to get back into no man's sky. I play as some of that. I started a new game. They add another a music sequencer the UK calls to set it up and have it make music play music of kind of miniature and all this other stuff. That doesn't seem like it's as robust as maybe you would want but sir last summer they put out that was called beyond I think was the biggest VR. And all that kind of when I came back to write and I thought for sure that was their last big update. Because that's the thing that was the three year mark and it seemed like it had like everything I could possibly possibly think of to put that game and then they put out another named update like in late November. I think like right before the holiday I can't remember what that had in it but they just can't stop abutting the thing. Yeah like the last chunk that they put in really seems focused around making it a lot easier to bring players together and kind of ease the like like. Hey let's do some multiplayer stuff like making that a lot more viable or maybe kind of easing the restrictions about like leaping between universes or whatever 'cause like like like this is the stuff you get all the anyway yeah I was just getting to the did you start a new game or back in a while so I haven't touched it in a law since the beyond by stuck Tuck with my original save on. PS Four. Because I was like well maybe I'll get all the trophies in this game someday Actually seems like not impossible to do but yeah it's just a time thing so yeah so I still have bases there or whatever and there's some part of this if I'm GonNa play more of this maybe I should start over on PC. But but I kinda don't WanNA start over already. Did all the early game stuff. Yeah I third new save and I I doubt and much of this super new as of the last update but I was shocked. How much longer longer and more gradual the tutorial ramp is the thing now like they've really old your hand for a very long time just having seeing after thing after thing of all right? We're going to have you do each activity. Vivid there is to do in this game once in sequence so you know how to do everything so possibly a bad starting planet that you just really. They all seem pretty much the same. That was an issue when it first came out with like some people are just acid plan. I think so. I've started. I've probably started four or five saves over the last couple of years on game different platforms just messing around and like like you're not always gonna be the same planet like sometimes it'd be nice planet or an acid planet or fire planet or whatever but it's always like a little bit hostile but not too hostile you'll always get a storm at about the same time and it's always he's like. Hey you can get out of the way out of this. It's always it's always. Hey Sodium to survive the storm. That's about to come in and charge up your stuff like they they really not with my blood bloodpressure again. They really they really hold your hand. The I got to the point where they were having you do much base building and build a warp gate a to a space station and back and that kind of thing so the back to it when using my existing save like it's still triggered all that base buildings again or her because the way it had changed. Now like now you have a you can refine or under suit to a certain extent instead of having to like carry around a refinery. Okay plop it down do it all all backers. Were still having me do that. All the time out of gotten those finding yeah stuff. I don't know like I said I haven't I haven't touched it in a year or something now but I was just shocked the space station. The aliens were walking around the channels feels active lively later. So they've definitely done some stuff you can read because there's a little bit more multi-player now you can. They're more options for like defining the look of Your Character Arbor or spacey cosmetic stuff seems Musburger. Focused It seems way more of a game. Now you totally still one of those. Oh well grind materials to recharge things and like craft. Whenever I can still get murdered on my initial starting planet probably lean? Yeah we'll go far enough. You might find some sentinels little players just another player absolutely met another player that another bio and all these times been fiddling starting planet. Wow I've never seen another player. Never seen any sign of other game. Wow I one of my favorite things now is so not a realist. Talking about lower every time the show but the wild classic players did p. v. p. v. p. for a while before the battlegrounds And the amount of people complaining about being camped and like this is not too fun. I'm on P. P. Serve. I signed up for it but man. They're fucking gang. Camille gotta stay out of the. Be careful what you wish cycling motherfucker. I know how classes house. You're not remember two thousand four. A lot of people do not and they are just agent. Jane did they hurry up the battlegrounds because the world is not fun. Like dude I just gotTa you gotTa Win The battlegrounds come in or they're gonNA disabled world. TV Oh no. They're saying they wanted. I believe some of the complaints relate. They should hurry up the battlegrounds a to get out of the world. which that's not gonNA fucking do that if anything is yeah you remember the old honor system where you have to biscuits to play a one hundred hours a week to get the highest level of audio gear so these are the people who really fucking go one for it and people complaining about that too is basically you have to? You have to be online for like four hours ars day. If you want to hire the amount of and I don't I really I don't have any problems with people like in classic but as soon as I play that like this is no longer for me and the people who are realizing that now. It's it's it's a little funny to to see like this is the way it was back in the day. Hey there's a whole other like you if you want this. We have have a whole other world of warcraft for over here that we've been keeping up to date and ironing out all of these issues for. Yeah it's just it's in the same way you're getting murdered it on your home planet. It's a lot of people complaining about like I walked into a bus fall was murdered. Say you're going to set foot in the highlands exactly what you're getting into that the fridge over there it's going to be a rogue on there no matter what it's why stop playing well originally but yeah. I remember how exciting I didn't cry about it. Yeah I guess that's this game. I remember how exciting that proposition was back. Then man anything can happen like a bad like an evil player could be waiting around any corner player could it could hear this quests zone and murder people and prevent them from making progress right well. Yeah like I was like I was like man. It'll be so exciting. You'RE GONNA get all these random dual from like I might might like fight. Fight the bad guys when I see him and in practice it was like I don't want to screw up their good time. I'M NOT GONNA kill this guy just because I can but then they absolutely do that to you right. Are we talking about Games we yeah okay. Good we'll see what else y'all got you'll monster hunter oh no yeah came out on the PC. Yeah I talked about last week to talk about it again but any issues us all. It's been eating some safe size. Heard something about that too. I have not encountered any of that so far so will knock on wood still having a great time with it looked really. Dwp F- yeah. Those people just jump in and fucking that barrier that was seamless yeah just throw up the SOS flair and a few minutes later. Ed The full group of people and we took it down the clutch and mounting monsters. And all that stuff. It's hard for me to integrate that into like so much like hundreds of hours muscle memory like in a and. I'm not finding it as useful as I have once initially thought it would be it's cool for like knocking enemies and traps and whatnot. But it's not. It's never was going to be this big game changer like that. But that's like took missing. Is that usually about half an hour to for one of those absolutely embiid or you know you you get a good group and it's over and five awesome. It felt for me watching that it was. It was a little frustrating than not knowing I get. There's with us for healthmarkets runs away. It just felt like it was like you're doing like eight damage every swing and I know references whether that's good or bad or anything like that. I'm in a weird spot right now. We're might my weapon is under powered okay. Now and I can't find anything thing like I've got to progress further in the story not to get access to stuff that I can make a higher power weapon and they're now So it's a lot of fun and I'm actually going back and granting healing some shit that I'd kind of over looked you know the first time you're going through because I'm finding that I don't have the right kind of decorations served charms and shit that I would have made had I not had the defender right right so I just kinda like good. I've got sued like the Max of that and I'm like Oh shit like I'm really underpowered. Now because I have a lot of this stuff which is kind of a bummer. But it's easy enough in a powerful enough to where I can go through and just grind. I fought like one particular monster of fought him like ten times like in the span of like maybe five minutes Edis or something like that it was just fucking killing him and it was at knows a lot of fun but muster hunter is the only thing they're trying to install battlefronts. You Know Benjamin playing that an awful lot and I wanted to talk to him about that for something That game looks really cool. And it's just like Red Star Wars is It's kind of coming off the hot spot you know. The movie just came on. We're still adding a lot of stuff to that. Game of skywalker stuff you content going into that thing all the time from what I understand. Battlefront two yeah okay you know. Obviously you know the loot box stuff is Kinda gone you know they. They do have like you know premium currency that I hear I hear the progression. That's still pretty grinding. I'm sure her low. They pulled some of that stuff out. But if if you don't really care about that I don't Then this might be a real cheap way to get into to like what two years old I think we talked a little bit is on ups. Forget but like you know people never are there still a contingent of people that never really got happy with battlefield. Five with a lot of time to kill changes Kinda went one way then the other one a lot of that stuff's going back and forth and people took a lot issue with with a lot of elements of that game gameplay perspective so it seems like battlefront two became team like the fallback position of dislike. Well like we don't win battlefield. We're going back to this. which at least plays right Wouldn't vote. I wouldn't expect a lot a lot of overlap between those audiences. Maybe same Goddamn game is just one is one has a half level. You know it's it you know maybe just think about front is a little bit more Arcadi a little bit a little marketing. You're not you're not wrong. Button generally speaking. It's still like hey these are still similar modes and all that stuff also so no dice game last year like for the first time in like fucking how long yeah. Today's my put out a shooter for a year. We'll now it's like they're going to rename dice. La and give it to Vince Appello right on and all this other stuff like ea seems like not in upheaval but use clearly gotta make changes with the way they put out games and and develop them and all that other stuff you look at from anthem anthem to battlefield to need for speed. Like they're just not getting it done the way that they sometimes have over the years now so if they can if they're at least like acknowledging hey we're going to take a step back and we're going to support battlefield for another year or whatever especially if like whatever we're in transition year for consoles stuff like that like this would be the skip the same way for two did make sense GotTa have something consoles right. Oh Yeah Yeah for those consoles. Sure yeah but like I mean last year was not. Oh Oh yes yes that makes sense. Yeah do you think we'll ever get to the cross play on monster hunter crops. Save or do you think that ship sailed on this one. I think it's failed. Yeah that you know that they're not going to be. Providing are not no more expansions past iceberg support for for world for the next. The next thing will be a full on proper sequel. I think maybe that's the game that hopefully they get up to sink her parody. You'd like to think so. Yeah definitely like you're going to try and get the things you up to date on the events scheduled stuff yeah. It's so funny looking at the twitter. It's like Oh yeah. The ICE mourns out in three weeks or something. And it's like currently available on playstation and expert like I feel like I feel like every big everybody okay. I follow on twitter. Who is still a big monster? Fan has considered this. PC released like the actual real release of iceberg. Actually wanted to play. Well yeah and it's I mean it probably ends up being significantly less work for a number of people to get those events in sync and maybe that's just on the promotions front just the events are all implemented but I'm sure like rolling them out out taking them out of the game like just like keeping track of the two schedules must be a pain in someone's ass like why not just get it instinct and just be done with it. Ah they've said that they just WanNa make sure you know the reason that you know the the PC is so far behind. They WanNa make sure that you know their PC ports are up to snuff. You know and and I think they've been doing really good job with the exception of maybe these save Bug but I think they've been you know they've been doing okay like I think it's time to finally get the shifts in lockstep with with the console. Release time a lot of Monster Hon. Yeah Man I love hunting Mons Rescue Rangers to what Yes yes. Classic Rangers Getting Good Ad. Okay he's getting like he's he's able to jump he's able to hide in the boxes and stuff like in have the robot dogs coming hit him and he loves it suppresses. The Rangers are huge in my house now. Rescued Rangers was like the one of the Disney. Ed after school deals that just completely missed. It's so good team or TV. Show like a duck tales and like Dr. twig duck is pretty cool on us. Also Tailspin here and there but some allergies rescue rangers kind of aged out and all that stuff I think by the time I hit I was I was pretty much done with the duck tales might be the one exception really theme song ducktail. Okay this seems okay and but I'm not GonNa Watch it because I'm going to be edgy. Yes it's time we're we're also watching tron back to back over and over and he's just in love with dillinger the bad from the original. I have no oh ideologues. Because he's got a cool touch screen desk I think so. Yeah Yeah. He's so enthralled with dillinger dillinger over and over and he's like he learned that dillinger. It has a son in the second in legacy and he's always wanted to see the part with dillinger's son who's a plays dillinger. It's British actor whose voice of Jonah Renaissance Jason Baldur's gate to remember over. Remember his name at all. That's something. Yeah yes John. I remember that he was bigger water. David One it is a classic Romulo and I think or was he a Klingon at some polling on. I think he just passed away. Is Your Son essentially falling for the British accents. Make people seem cooler than they really bad guy. You guys are cool. Where does he get that from? My wonder I don't know the thing for Jason Voorhees or just get him into the ultimate anti year. I've right that's it for me. All Right Iva play a lot of magic arena Played it every day of last year. And that's when I belong to the things that I'm kind of mildly obsessed with about a phase into a new expansion on Thursday so that's a hearth stone crazy. It's it's one of my favorite place stuff because you can play a lot without spending any money so of course I spent fifty bucks on Paxil. It's ten I'm I'm all in on magic him the path of exile. Because you played that for hundreds of hours put it. I should to put into some money into some stash expansions but that game is floated by the whales. They have like six hundred dollar draft grants pass the huge. It's an asset for them Really quietly some massive huge profitable for them. I believe they're Australian alien or New Zealand. Next up like raid shadow legends. There's a lot of mobile action. People implying is like the biggest game ever now. Oh I've never even heard that phrase. There's a bunch of weird Asian before two days ago and might be the most generic title game. That's a bad no idea what it is a bad name. Yeah Magic Arena Sovan. Plunge I got to the end of the masterpass which is like the seasonal one hundred levels which I was really surprised by But a new you get enough money to buy the next pass. No you get so you spend thirty four hundred gems and you get two hundred thousand back but yes we get like a million packs. So I'm GonNa do a stream him on Monday with our moderator. Gino Rico whose way more good at the magics and I am so we're GONNA open up. A bunch of packs on Monday at some point might be to stream stream Monday for the I don't know never know. Pack Open and Bonanza final fantasy. I've been just grinding those two for a a long time now. How deep into that? I'm like sixty six terms of expansions I am in the middle of Sh- storm blood. The new one is shadow. bringers singer is which is really bizarre. Because they're both sp the super bowl's coming up. So I don't know what I am abbreviations going to be but I'm in the Middle Storm blood at the second expansion okay there are three and then a million patches after expansion so it's it's a lot of cut scenes co Shit on my game of the year list like you really are playing thing. This has a final fantasy game. Are you into the store at that point. That's that's that's where people say. The story really starts getting good. It's not it's the final fantasy story so it doesn't okay. I haven't don't people always say they moved to tears. Everything like it's people die in the day I was honestly more. Yeah it's it's a lot of kind kind of final fantasy protagonists Michael himes heart. I know I know it's it's the story that I'm interested in it but it's not something I'm so what do you think they'll name the expansion mansion of SPF Super Bowl. Super Vowel Shaq Shaq Shaq bound. That's good one. We should patent that before and register. Shock bound dot com great. Okay so they can't use it. We'll sell to them for at least one hundred elite balling. Okay the next expansion. It's just talking all show Qaboos wearing gold chains. That's about what I'm playing Jan.. You got anything you want to Just a little thing. I remember a while ago Ben. Pack had messaged me about competitive mega man battle network Yeah I needed something to tear me away from Pokemon so I thought like what better than to dip in a different turn based strategy. That's very read niche. Establish real fast. Yes let the original game multiplayer in any way I I remember. I think you could play against other players. I was just wondering if this is something. They have just grafted onto the game. I know I do. Yeah I think in you was either three or four that they introduced multiplayer combat. Go against it's another player. A group of people very dedicated online of taken mega man network six Put a bunch of tools to help people get into it via dischord and all that stuff of getting people online to go against other folks. I'm getting completely decimated because because all these people have been like it's been their day to day thing for a while and a lot of new players know this correct this game boy advance game. Yes okay yes we are people. We'll just like hacking multiplayer online. Yeah in connecting via like a fake in cable and stuff are. It's pretty neat. How well it works actually actually a couple folks just like hovering around the discord just like people are very very into it? I don't know how far or I'll get into it because the barrier of entry is kind of hard where I'm at right now. I'd maybe need like an army of people to join with me so we can all like scrub around together uh-huh but it's cool for what it's worth. It just makes me really miss that franchise. I know they're they're talking about. Bring back the mega man zero series on the switch each releasing that so fingers crossed. Maybe one day we'll be able to jack back in. I wonder if those were NEAT Games. Well yeah it was a really cool take aac on like not even gonNA say really cool. Take on mega man. But it's like it's that can be anything. It doesn't seem to be mega man. It was cool that it had mega man references in it and stuff like that but it never wasn't like it was like it scratched that each of the weird future Internet reminded me a Tron Trying to reboot. Yeah and I'd love for something similar to come back. I know I've seen a couple copycat games on each just not do the same thing. Yeah yeah trying to try to get away from POK Mon Little Bits and pieces. It's not working though. Just bide your time for the expansion. There's new stuff I I thought I'd be out and talk about here in the room. You never we'll speaking of POK MON expansions among other things We got news to discuss. Right EH I. It's the rest are vocal cords couple minutes and then we'll come. Aw this week in the news We went from like New News at the sign yesterday to a bunch of right things happen. They knew that we were quite right. Who's Day put news? Magadan put a call out into the universe. Divers and the universe answered canoe. Thomas Iraq the top story fresh for my inbox subject line reads power Rangers battle for the grid. Sports League announced. That's okay. I'm not really good but ago. Yeah let's go culminating in finals finals at Yvo. How but unstaged the power rangers battle for the Great Relief Bill? Their onstage. The battle for the grid League has planned stops at grid. Frosty Foul Stings Grid. Fassi Final Final Round Yep nor cal regionals. That's North L. April annihilation. I'm not sure where that is rough. That's New Jersey Okay dammit Kabo Breaker Chicago vs. CEO Gaming and the Neva. Okay so while Jenner you ready to hit the road. I am going to have to take a bunch of assignments. The I don't know my guess. There's I guess there's enough of a community run game two more phenomenal support. The League interesting and yet we've talked about it before there's there's some you know really knowledgeable folks that are working on that game to help me balance it and just like really. Oh legit yeah okay. Yeah like a clockwork has come through here using a big like a Marvel Guy Morville three guy and he's coming here and done videos with Gamespot and he's currently working on the game. Wow this wild. Considering State that launched in love that guy I played it somewhat recently did not enjoy it all that much. It seems like it's got stuff going. It's you know it's a game it's way better than this one for me. Joke News Story to. Oh that's cool. Yeah actually thing I I like it when when smaller games like that get dedicated following literally have company. That will all back. It wasn't it wasn't that like straight up missing like sound effects or music or something like barely finished story wasn't tariff. My recall story. No win quotes votes. Very scaled down roster. Was it on early access thing or no they sold it on. Call switch the platforming to be continued. We have to the other quarter. But they've stuck with so good on them. Yeah yeah they were selling a season. Pass right out the gate. But they delivered without which Trini where you say ragging Arberg Berg in armor Trini only treasury dude. Rip Drag arm now not to treat man all right. Here's the actual first story like rubers. Sorry we're we're started percolating on twitter yesterday morning that this was going to break and I'm sure enough in the afternoon and did Sony is not going to be three Sony for a second year in a row. That's is not an easy race. Oh they don't be l. laid in in the year that they are launching the playstation five. They're not going to be three. That's pretty crazy. Yeah total uh last year you could totally understand like a business reason or business case. Yeah when you look at what they had coming out and it's like they didn't want to say right like they don't have much to talk about with platform yet like the previous year was a little weird likely to get out there a little with a little bit more next-gen stuff because they're behind a yeah. I could see. Yeah you know we still need to do it but this year it's interesting. Yeah because they've always used us as a jumping off point or their their platform actually kinda announce. Yeah so this is a the big concert. Announcements this game industry Biz story had a paragraph in at that really hit me when I read it. Position has used the three as the place to unveil details details of next consoles since the very beginning attending the I e three in one thousand nine hundred five to detail the US launch of the original playstation. The company's Success Eddie Three twenty thirteen was viewed as a major moment in the build up to the PS four which resulted in Sony reclaiming its market leadership from xbox like I forgot. Yeah I'm Really Hal. Like deeply intertwined. The history of the police station actually has been with three now. They have wired magazine right now. They have now they have the UK like they have the Internet but also the all the leadership structure of that company has changed and is now based out of Jim. Ryan the stuff that was Sony computer. Entertainment Europe Chervus S. C. E.. Had all that stuff fully effect last year hadn't but so this has been in a while but it was heading that direction I think by last year probably I mean I think the bigger Boondoggle Galore. Whatever you WANNA call? It is on the side rather than the Sony side. I mean like ESA's failed to make that show seemed like something that needs to participate in and save for journalists. Listen separate thing. So that's a that's a failure on the Yes as part to make. It seem attractive to accompany a company as large as a Sony for but also Sony's needs have changed and and I think they're more fan focused now than well. Let's let's around this thing but Yeah I I don't know that I I. I don't know that I buy that. I think that is really just just like you've seen a shift in power. They have centralized a lot of the core leadership and they have not done it in the US so like now games com which you know way more people attend thing about it that way? Like if if the essays trying to pivot e. three into something that the public can attend and get something out of then suddenly you look at it and go like I can go to games com for that and like ten times over five five times accountable. Whatever was bass camp outside? At least they used to win. It was shit. So why would you know if you're trying to be that kind of public focus thing. Three still isn't that show. Even they pivot and try data get more of the public in their games. Comets already doing a better job as at eighteen games com was three hundred and seventy thousand people like. I don't know yeah. I think the three has probably peaked in sixty-seven sixty-seven those those aren't pay. Those are including journalists. Industry is an industry year when anything is the pay things we're near I'd I'd I should. I might as well read Sony statement and this after thorough evaluation. SL has decided not to participate any three twenty twenty we have great respect for the asa as is an organization that we do not feel vision of three twenty twenty. Is the right venue for what we are focused. On this year we will build upon our Global Events Strategy in twenty twenty events by participating in hundreds of consumer events across the globe our focuses on making sure famous is back. Hundreds of events is eh focuses on making sure fans feel part of the playstation family and have access to play their favorite content. We have a fantastic lineup of titles coming to playstation four and with the upcoming launch cassation. Five we are truly looking forward to a year of celebration with our fans. Would you like to hear the response to this. I've read it I I love it honestly And keep in mind all before you get into this. I want to at least like totally. This is a statement. They gave to game industry a busy right. A industry focused not a public or like the tone of this is very much set to the publication to fare so well they they also published it on their own website. Okay well then. They're on the blonde the blog or like there is a special page on the USA DOT COM. Okay on the essay right okay. Well no one's going to the snow. You're you're right still man will go ahead and read this astounding shit. That word is in here twice like this. Is it twice shit okay. He three is a signature event celebrating the video game industry and showcasing people brands and innovations redefining finding an entertainment loved by billions of people around the world e. Three twenty twenty will be an exciting high energy show. Featuring new experiences partners exhibitor spaces activation activision and the programming that will entertain new and veteran attendees alike exhibitor interest in our new activation 's is gaining the attention of brands that view three as a key opportunity. Connect to connect with fans worldwide. They they're finally going to activate the sleeper units. Yeah that the three super soldiers that have been program developed yeah developed catacombs beneath the La Commission. Can you actually for me. One and activation mission is just like a one on one connection. I think it's kind of like engagement. It's like it's an interesting so engagement physical manifestation of your marketing plan. Okay and it's meant to be. It usually is in this case with something like he three. It's Houston like experiential marketing. Sure where you've got okay. We're building this booth. And we're we've got this activation that we're doing like the gamespot truck. Sure where the new data shows up and throws out pancakes and it's sponsored by whoever sponsored it or whatever are and people can stop and play video games at it and maybe sign up for a thing or maybe do this or maybe get more informed about this or see the sponsors thing that's an activation. Okay weird weird way of putting him. I think and act. I think activation might be a unit of measurement leader is a measurement of volume hurts. Hurts is a measurement measurement of times per second one activation isn't as a measurement of one instance of engagement of brand engagement of. How many active Asians are you running on this thing or like you know? Hey the we've got this sponsored space. We're partnering with this sponsor to do this thing. That is an activation a You know and and so you get people through there and then like Oh hopefully. They engage with the sponsor along the way and Blah Blah Blah with the HASHTAG. Yeah totally like all that. Yes exactly one thousand in percents that will deliver three point. Seven active Asians per user per activation. Thing is an activation. It's not necessarily anyway. Ah It's so when you look at that leaks deck out of the essay about what they WANNA do to eat three and how they WANNA change it and entertain people while they're waiting in line to to wait in line to be activated. Yes that statement fits right in with that stuff. And it's I I feel like they have not not made a clear case of of what they want the show to be like publicly like it's just kind of going off that leak decks. That's kind of hard to go too far in that direction and you'd like to think that like a lot of publishers that feel the show is valuable in its current form or to them would be like no. We don't know you. You don't need to bring in celebrities. I used to have them sign autographs near our game just to get people to wait in line like we're here to do this. And but I don't know like the the show the value of the show we've talked about for years and and how the value the Roi for people going in and buying a booth and all this other stuff has been on the decline for a while. It feels like so Microsoft still pretty much all in though right they own the theater next door they have the naming rights to the Microsoft Theater. Weird Gray area where they have their in venues so they might as well show up but they're not. They pulled out of the the the show floor last year. But also there's still a part of the and your show badge is what gets you into that space so it's an extension of e three and can you still like to me. Whether Sony came back was the bellwether for the future of three going into this right in a fucking hardware ear. Yeah and they. They called all year. But if you look at the focus okay okay like somebody can have a press conference anywhere right. So they don't need to have any three and if e three is going further in this direction of just like hey man come by this booth were GonNa let you play this fucking basketball game. That came out last year against an actual basketball player. And then we're going to give you a fucking thing of orange juice and send you on your way and please tweet about it. And then here's a wall. You can take instagram photos in front of please activate. That's not something he doesn't need. It'd be there for that for to announce hardware to do all the other stuff and then you factor in on top of all that Jim Ryan runs the show out of that territory and their entire strategy for how they view the globe has changed. They've centralized around all this stuff like if if all all of the playstation leadership. Herman hosts if they're all in that region dare not gonNA view e three the same way the what used to be the US leadership of playstation. The station would view that region right. So who could fly to be three in ninety minutes right exactly so you look at that and you're like yeah you know like with e. changing changing the message. We needed to get out. Get out any day of the week and dominated a new cycle. It's the fucking playstation five. Yeah I mean I get the why of the whole thing. It's more just like are they gonna get it together together enough to get them back on board or is this thing or is this the beginning of the end for three right. They also haven't as far as I know they have an address. That whole we doc staff every like that is a whole other on a whole different elephant in the room that is just like hanging out the day barely even touch hearing the other day that multiple people had had to move this. Yeah yeah all kinds of crazy harassment. And what do you read some all kinds of stuff with no I mean. I can't imagine that someone needs to bring a suit right right. I mean that's the seemed like there was some talk that back when it happened in class. Action and stuff takes a while to get together. I like that type of data leak with like we've been very very lucky Nanto yes. We companies large company that we got for us. But I don't even get a media badge. Yeah I know now is more like it was only serendipity that we were or not also anybody could have been compromised like that total. He just happened to be that group of people but it could have been like the negligence as the bigger thing right and I feel like they barely early even acknowledged it happened much less made any kind of like good faith show of effort. We'll doing something about it. They probably know they're gonNA fucking suit at some point eighty ability like even saying like A. Hey whoops like the exposure wise but it's wonder like you know how much that like badge type is even to something something that matters to the. US As future in terms of this show if they're going to open it to the public yeah like because the media badge like the most of the major game media still gets a booth and they get exhibitor badges. Sure so it's a lot of freelancers and people are smaller publications. That got totally fucked and you have to wonder if it was like whatever that's been there you know. That's they haven't set a lot. They haven't addressed it. They haven't they haven't made it better I. It seems seems like they. Just don't give a shit right but it's like it's less people that had happened to you and more just rank incompetence that it's a sample of like that can happen to them. Then they can. What else are they? Of course I'd be worried about buying a walk in badge too. I mean at that point because of their attitude towards e security or whatever calling it like would be i. It's I'm sure there's some straight up fucking clown ass shit. Some real idiot asks moves that really fucking people over and the ASA did not address it well enough on the other end of it but I just look at it and go like that's probably 'cause they don't give a shit yeah. I assume for their perspective. That's a smaller thing to worry about than shit like Sony showing up but who knows if you look at the amount of money. Asa makes on three. It's like that's the main drive for draft revenue Ronaldo with the actual number but it is a huge chunk of like publishes have pay them for the rest of the icons. And everything like that right for. I think I think a member company bird bird the memory word that and also Microsoft is still member. You know there's still a company part of the and all that other stuff so even if they're not necessarily on the show four per se clearly are supporting the efforts of three. Yeah Yeah you have to. They will still do the same thing. They got there and said as much oh they did yeah they said Oh yeah we'll be okay so but not necessarily back on the show floor right. No but I. I don't think that matters. That's the thing that like like they put on a show on in a larger space. Look they've made three bigger well. Yes but they've they've made to take up more of a couple though like we had to take appointments in that space last. Yeah like it there is some yeah. There is a layer of confusion in terms of getting from the main show hall into their space. If that's helping them necessarily I don't think it matters the point I'm making is I. Do they try to get xbox series x kiosks back in the main hall this this year. No because I look at it as the Microsoft theater is just another hall. I guess as part of the large maybe they just need to do a better job of funneling people over there. Yeah yeah the new thing and yeah and there's like multiple entrances into that place and some of them. Don't get you directly into the place where the game. Some of that stuff is th. That's only because we're going in weird side. There is one main entrance for are the people that are just like trying to get over there to see what they can see. Sure that form factor is GONNA be there present or is this going to be like I would assume so he. PC's like behind the they'll be running stuff. I mean said that. He's got one of those at home. I though that there Chris I figure I want to say just based on the last console launch looked like because they all list like manufacturing like it looked like for November launched. I think most of them were made in like September August. Probably they're probably rolling early units off at least like samples or something but yeah. We're Sony will still probably because you WANNA venter. Yeah like do they have experienced care. Not Eddie three well. They did four. They did that. Weird thing for journalists that that wasn't last year the year before. Oh my God. We talk about the weird like the ten last year last year. We didn't even really it was. It was difficult for us to book guests from playstation there even though they were at the show. Oh because the feeling was like well if they're not at the show there was a So like they don't WanNa. There was a concerted effort not to have a presence last year with a Lasso so as to those two years ago. Here's how long just well I mean not not to you. It'll be two years as of June half ago but it was threes ago rain nine. Very good yes. It all runs together or stars at this point but like okay so so playstation experience would almost be a last thing that would be like you look at the time of the year when they have it unless they say the playstation experiences. Now a mall to war and we're going to go everywhere this summer. Whatever that's how? They hit their hundreds of events. Number eight hundred evacuations because otherwise like they you know they probably still go to pack and some form I think. Sure I duNNO DUnno if they're going to south but they have a booth that had east. I don't know you could probably make the argument that the the name playstation five sells itself at this point like they may not feel like they. We need to have a big of central event in the US before it launches right but yeah right but they probably want to have. I would assume by Pax Prime. They've got playstation fives at that. They've got games announced. They've got lineups forming. They've got things happening. They've shown the box by then So it's really a matter of like do they want to have what okay well. What bits of information to they have left to get out there? They've got the console itself to look at the box. The price the Dashboard Board Front End. Whatever layer stuff the whatever features whatever services and stuff are going along with that you know and like launch lineup? Yeah so at at some point. It's like okay. Well is that that is his own event. I'm sure like that or is three about one. Event plus haywar announcing this separately and giving it to wired aired or whoever sure but either way all that information gets out there and I don't think I don't think they lose much by not attending the show definitely not. I think Microsoft will have a lot more to lose by not attending. Well I don't know it's they. They're just just as easily. They could just as easily put on the events and make their own announcements separately for me. Three also feels like Microsoft. Has the last launch went so disastrously for them. They need to have some kind of it feels to me like they need to have some like rob cheer. The in kind of big big fucking conference mandate everything they've been doing has had this like real kind of deliberate Brit. Like very like you see it. It's it's it's very deliberate of just like we're very focused and not say that they don't believe that it's they're really hammering on that. I'm looking forward to. I mean one of the year. It's less work for me than you guys but I always that sucks. It's only thought there but I still. It'll come with some some jazz and some some I like. He three a lot when it is it. Something resembling full strength. Yeah L. Like I like the three back in the day. Yeah but the what. It's become the assets way less interesting than it used to be talking about like I mean like it's just Kinda a sad like that first year the show floor. This last year was like rotten apple. Whatever reason I remember this must have been twenty sixteen because I remember me me and Dan? That was the year that we wouldn't play breath. Wild sat down on the same show floor where we played it. Yeah in a big empty corner. That was quieted up to record podcast. Yeah that was. That was the moment for me. It was like there shouldn't be empty. floorspace that's quiet Eddie. Three right like what is happening to the contracting. That's the thing thing though is that they're going to fill it up with onset and they started doing more of that last year but there were still a lot of empty space like yeah. Dan and I recorded US kind of walking walking around the halls are one of the halls. It was both anyway like yeah. We walked around with a significant part three and just like the amount of space. Use the places where it was very easy to have a conversation the person then you elbow through people right back in the day just like fucking you can move. Yeah yeah I mean so tedious but it was still the business thing I've ever seen in my life but Yeah it's the real Barron like and just like the stuff that was on. The floor was still like nick. Seeing energy drink powder for sale for sale there wasn't like regal inexperience. It was. Hey we're going to give you some or even games that are already out like a lot of it started to look more like packs. I've been curious. Question is if they feel motivated. You something before you three because that way. I'm assuming if they don't have do you think they even let people say this is the playstation game. If it's happened the game awards had some gearbox fall off Vaas. CBS Five Game. So I assume if anything's come out to the XBOX ONE ASS series accidents probably assume that it's going to be titled as well so it wouldn't be that big of a deal that there has as we some places I well. Most of the launch exclusives are probably First Party right announced. So it's weird. We don't have. That stuff is going to go. We do know however how this xbox cross compatibility situation is going to work. Yeah apparently cool. Molin Matt Booty Xbox Game Studios told MTV which is excuse me a European okay so basically basically you know Halo. Infinite is coming out for both xbox One yes and xbox series yes apparently that's going to be their policy for like all First Party Games for what they are calling over the next year or two years okay. There's not a definitive window but it's a pretty big window. Yeah so they're gonNA work to keep making xbox one versions of those essentially. Yeah Those X.. Cloud only they didn't I feel like if that's the route they're going the the statement is very misleading ago. I mean that is certainly possible than what you're saying is that also I don't think they would put an end date on it of saying your first year or two. All Games will work on both. Yeah this is really kind of. I've seen a lot of people feel disappointed by this. I'd I'd get it for sure because apparently now what they're saying is that you're not going to be able to build around and xbox one xbox series x that power you can't have you can't make it run for excellence. Would like to be clear to be clear this is. This is first party Microsoft lease so we're talking like what three or four games a year and a handful of games period but one of the things that excite me about the new one. You have a whole new baseline of power to to play around with and developers like when I loaded up like infamous second son like that was a I mean. Now it's it's less power you know what I mean. It was a graphical improvement in many ways over what came before I get the value proposition. Sort of consumer oriented angle on this. If you bought into the xbox one x like good for a couple years you can keep playing all the games we put out but like yeah If those games are held back by having to be designed to run on both platforms. That's not a great. It's not a great look for the new console. Now that you've just spent who knows how many hundreds of dollars is on but you have to wonder how much of that is held back thing and how much of it is just a reality of the architecture. Yeah Oh yeah because like hey it games run on a wide range of PC hardware. Yeah but opposites stuff that is worse but they still have to be built around the target. Well the other thing was that people were saying like what is really. Yeah I mean talk about artifacts and like ray tracing the stuff like that really changing. Yeah the CPU power is a huge deal like there is a massive amount of compute power in these things because remember when the Jaguar cores in these distant consoles are net book. That is a book that was like at the time when they announced the specs. People who we're talking about with what was going so like the CPU in these new things is like a proper did something akin to a proper desktop CPU finalist. There's a lot of extra horsepower divorced from the graphics stuff that's not resolution frame rate stuff like that is like hey. I physics the other types of simulation. I think that number of players like it's hard to say like wait. We don't know developers are going to do with power until they get their hands on it right but but we do know that Microsoft is GonNa Attempt to make those games run creek generating and if you have to if you're just running into hard limits because today say specifically like hey these also. These games will run on the same multiplayer server though. So that's the very off the cuff common right like it could be very well that like A. We're going to have separate internal teams. I'm working on versions of these like managing into the more discreet. Way that or delay if this needs to have a lower player right because the xbox one. CPU can't handle it then that's fine. Yeah you just won't see those players right ever if it's something along those lines where they're splitting the things. I think there's a way to do that without necessarily compromising the game. That's not so bad. They didn't necessarily get right. It's a it's a half statement or statement that leads to more questions than answers right. That's more graphical stuff that that kind of worries worries me me and my target market for I play up so this sounds like a very pc oriented kind of thing like you're GonNa new PC. You'RE NOT GONNA get entirely new games. They'RE GONNA Games. That came out before but the look a lot better but for me console releases like doing something like look you know. Soul caliber would never elect showpiece to really showcase the graphical prowess at the same time. You could have made a version of soul caliber. That absolutely would have run us at the at the same development team or a port backwards or something like that. I mean it's awesome. It's all kind of gone out of the way I mean or or if the guy didn't exist and here is making that game could it wouldn't look as is good. We'll just have to ask you. Just ask what would be to make it work but hey a high high frame rate fighting game like the Saturn did plenty of those. I guess. Maybe it's more of an architecture thing like the if these are all going to be pretty much. PC's PS five in spine. I'll be there. It might be as big of a deal or something like you think about some of the stuff like you know when the PS came out like when you got Tekken tag egg right like cloth simulation like CNN. Close move properly on those tekken characters. Seems like just a tiny little example of something like that can be enabled in a game and often Alaskan game. So that's maybe not the best example. You know what I mean. There's a little shift. It just gets better and better zoom in and you go look at the sweat on the characters right for the three sixty launch. You're like okay. That's that's okay something. These games didn't do you every time the base as line moves up all this new stuff that you can do before you take a look like a halo infant. It's arguing running four K.. On an xbox one x correct owed assume that one's the interest in a different example because that is an example of a game that's being developed up because that clearly has been in development for xbox one for years it's curious what they put on the series accent and therefore thwarting up to the series. But I'm talking about like two years from now if series X. Games still have to be designed with the old hardware in mind. I think my question is just like like is it still. It probably depends on how you're developing the game. Every team might do it a little differently. Is it truly something. They are developing up. Or is it something developing and they're like oh we suddenly just got way more horsepower dumped in our lap because this is moving up to the next platform so I guess more guys. They're probably they're probably ways to mitigate the impact of yeah a lot of cases depending on how they're doing it's to be continued though this action means. Yeah again like he also for it. Sounds like they'll be transitioning away from the strategy anyway away. I guess that's cool. I would have assumed that they would have left a lot of xbox one players Kinda in the lurch or loan. Maybe not so much in the lurch to me. Here's I thought they would just be. That's where x cloud comes in of just like right like it's totally cool with you. Want to stay on your old xbox for streaming service you can play all these new games anyway ripe right. I figured that's how they were going to go about it. Sounds like they're just trying to kind of be. All things to all people will see a big company if they if they are truly devoting the resources to make sure that these different versions of the Games get what they need to work and Nabi held back. I think there's probably a way to do that. But you're right that it doesn't mb the gut reaction out of the gate is just like. Oh that doesn't sound great like it's probably not the biggest definitely not the biggest slice of the audience. That looks at these things and says is like I want the hottest rats most radical shit. You can do on this hardware right but it is some number of people and I wonder if those people look at this and think like well if Sony's like throwing on everything against the wall on the PS five games. Like maybe I should look at that one. If if in fact they are I mean we don't we don't even maybe maybe they will be doing something similar to this wasn't the rumer that's wasn't the room that five would be backwards compatible with all stations or something. That's that's the persistent rumor. Nobody knows for sure. Alright Joanne. Oh on poke them on the announce a season pass poke expect. DLC POK MON at them do they call it an expansion passing a season pass. Okay so this is the first time that they are foregoing making a third game or sequels to the existing games and just strips doing post game content. which is I personally? Think is very neat and like a good direction for them to move afford because it was kind of a slog to have to start from the very beginning to get all the new stuff. What's an example of a previous generation? Like what are the two uh-huh after game diamond and Pearl would be the original games. And then they'd release pokemon platinum or or like red and blue but then there was yellow. Yeah okay or black tube way to Omega Son et Cetera et CETERA. And I am A. I'm glad because now you can just jump straight into it and they're air for their releasing expansions for thirty dollars versus a whole release in a bunch of people are pooh-poohing as like. Oh this stuff that could have been in the game but that will never die that will that will never die so for thirty dollars you'll get these two expansion passes time for deals exists exists. Oh boy well actually So I'll of arms coming in June of this year with a and then Crown Tundra later in the fall and you're going to get like a new rival a new master or like a bunch of other characters. Interact with this new map map. The wild area right kind of like the wild area area. It seemed like they were also on top of adding more to the wild area. There'd be like another town to visit possibly another gym maybe a couple of gyms but they're adding new legendary pokemon. There were missed in the original release of this releasing cub Fu which will evolve into earth she fou- and has two different forms and They're releasing like a balloon. Dear thing named cowl racks which grant psychic. It's pretty exciting. 'cause that ever been done before. Yes okay. Yeah it's been it's been done before but the exciting part is they're bringing I'm back all of the legendary is and a couple select. Poke him on from the previous generations that they were saying like. Oh they're never coming back in two hundred pokemon or something something on roughly two hundred including legendary so that pairs down that number two. Maybe like one fifty ish but still like a good chunk and they teased dowd. Designs designs but models of existing pokemon. That would be coming back and it's a lot of. It is fan favorites that got skipped out on And I think it's pretty fucked. Need a bunch of cosmetics on top of that next. Those Pok Mon will be like even. If you don't buy the passes you can still use them so you can pull them out of your box if you have them yes or you can trade for to get them and that's stuff. So yeah so the language was if you do not want to buy the expansion pass vehemently against it or you know you just can't buy whatever you can't trade it from pokemon home or you can receive it in game from other players so you know if you you aren't in a place where you can play the expansions you can at least through trading surprise trading or whatever come across these POK MON or even battle I'm assuming that's kind of cool. Yeah it seems like a nice modern direction for a percent. It's like you know instead of doing the shirt g game game or whatever it's like okay we're GONNA put. DLC into the main game like a modern solution to the weird nicest used to do it. I see these kind of hardcore like legacy. Japanese Games Adopting these methods instead of just kind of sticking with this evolving. Yeah yeah say yeah okay. I'm really excited about it. It's funny the competitive. pokemon world loved D- Exit. Actually because a lot of the POKEMON that would be complete tears in these scene gene. We're like suddenly ejected out. Oh let me and it was actually like a nice opportunity for them to rebalance the basics but now with some of those being reintroduced traduced shaking things up which is which is interesting. It's great I like it a lot. I keep people on their toes in the competitive pokemon seeing a one hundred percent. Those hooligans run on wild to destroy the Meta rebuild it exactly. I love it if they said anything. I don't think there's anything in the direct I guess but like the performance of that wild areas still still pretty. Yeah are they actually put into more water They released a patch the same day as the direct I personally haven't noticed. Any performance changes or whatever and a lot of it was just content stuff nothing performance wise which is which is a bummer. Yeah you want that place for as much as presenting to perform well when you're interacting with a bunch of people but it's still kind of Some other news got a pair of square INEX- delays this morning The final fantasy seven remake has been pushed not far not that far from March third erred to April tenth. CNN stuff about like highway pulled a demo for that game yeah CDN and apart so like all the stories that I read about it didn't maybe intentionally didn't go into detail about how people got their hands on it or it wasn't clear if there was some hackers like there was just a file sitting on. Okay okay that someone found this was not something people like God running on hacked. ps four or anything else. Do go on to do that. There's no they didn't get it through those consoles pull down on the Internet. I don't know I I didn't dig deep into the breakfast. Frailty how the hell did they actually do this. They started data mining that data. Now an started like okay. Here's the things that they seem to have changed to make this work as a story even though it's only the first third or show chocolate better whatever wildlife that much of making it seem somewhat complete episode. I can you WanNa you know beginning and an end as it sounds like that might. That'd be a big change. The story of that story what I was reading saw. And we'll get into it here. People don't want to be spoiled but like a significant Change Huh. Aw Curious to see what that is again. It's like a five week delay. It's not that big a deal. Although win squares fiscal year ends so ooh maybe this is a big deal to them because it's out of March now but yeah it's like five weeks ish but the vendors Gabe also got delayed oil quite a bit more to September timber. When was that originally forgetting the thing? It was may fifteenth. Now it is September fourth. How much in trouble is that game? They're going to release it. No no matter what I seen it like the the best thing people come back. It's like it seems like it might be okay. Yeah but it doesn't seem exciting. Needs like five months of Polish war. I checked it out last packs and yet it's it's exactly that's like. Oh Yeah it's worth it works. It's a game but I don't know me on top of delaying because it needs more work if they're trying to time it out with something that Marvel's trying to do the last big movie of the year as September. So what what I'm curious about is 'cause that first trailer I was in the chat rooms for that and people immediately started. Just were railing on it like it did not look what they wanted. It wasn't the movie characters and everything like that. I'm not sure they can fix at this point. That's the part that I am like not super. I don't care if they don't look like move characters a billion versions of those characters over the years as I think that's a weird. They should have differences especially in a game. Where they're going to probably sell you a zillion costumes because it's alive? Yeah they'll get there. That's a long way though. I mean it's not as bad as it could be but I don't know what you can do more and like five months. I mean they say fine tuning polishing. I think yeah. I think it's more like a is is just the fundamental thing that that game is appealing to people. I think that's the the uncertain part. Yeah fine tuning. Polishing is good to have a lot of time for that been like five months. Seem like it's more of a fundamental kind of thing smashed now now he smashes or will be able to finish the other thing to me. Is that push this release. Almost smack DAB against the new consuls. For what is apparently intended to be alive game. That probably goes for a few years right. I mean whatever if the council's are compatible. Well then you can go for a few years. You would assume that they would eventually put it out on those boxes to. I'm sure you'll be able to play these games of this game on those new machines but still it's it's kind of weird timing verse delays of the year. Who I have many similar? There will be a lot more coming up later. Oh there's a lot of stuff coming out again. There's going to be backwards compatible compatibility. Yeah who's going to be a lot I think maybe the boundaries compatibility take some of the heat off of it. Because I feel like normally you'd have that rock and hard workplace of just like okay like we can push you to the next fiscal year. But if you don't get it out before these new consoles launched were dead right Yeah under Hockett wait till those companies just clarify. How all that stuff is going to work? Because it's just like getting kind of exhausting speculating about it. All the time like charge people again or they just are the game's going to look the same. Or are they gonNA look better or are they gonNA have to pay to make them look better. I bet it'll be different for everyone involved. I can only say maybe they could enforce it on third parties parties but third parties probably wouldn't like that was it was Sony that mandated you can't charge for pro upgrades or something like that. That was in there. You said flat out. Can't you can't can't charge people to make your different situation. Yeah okay because as well you could put that disk and say okay. We're going to run the backwards compatible. Four version of this game on your ps five and if you wanted the PS five version. You're welcome to go buy it good luck. And then maybe at that point because they did allow A. PS three to ps four upgrade without assassin's creed game right. They did that. Ten dollar upgrade like put the disk by the PS four version for cheap flag right. Oh yes yeah and so. They do have some precedent with that as well so maybe they go that way with it. Sure as like. Hey if you want to go this upgrade path. We're not gonNa hit you for sixty but you're always welcome to play the sixty two if you'd like. I bet it ends up being something like that but I also do you probably end up in a situation where different developers do slightly different things to I can see that EPA Games. They have a store. Perhaps you've heard of it Anybody Oh yeah they keep giving me free games. Yeah they sure do in fact they're going to keep doing trade these games. It's more V box. What are we doing? I guess for all of this year as well as just last year when you continue doing that okay making money they put out a they put out a big infographics this morning. And I guess Tim Sweeney's about they're doing interviews and stuff they're basically disclosing a bunch of figures about the epic store The most salient ones are they claim. One hundred And eight million customers on the game store okay and seems like how many they had like at the launch of the stores from Fort Collins. I should find it in the story. Okay so yeah. They're saying now they have three hundred million total epic accounts gotTa okay across all platforms forms. So presumably the rest of those people wind four-night. That's a fucking lot on phones and stuff right now but consoles one hundred eight million. They're finding customers on the APP store as anybody who has ever taken part in a transaction on the store they still even if it's a free game downloaded a free game once on the epoch store. They're counting you as a customer. So that's kind of fuzzy number. People that are in that are now all to buy a game. Yeah so that they can market to say hey phoenix point or whatever right but they do say that. The store has generated six hundred eighty million dollars so far by giving we game spit spent by people crazy money. They have brought in revenue very different for them. I'm curious about the pure profit and then surprisingly they broke out the number of off the amount of money that was spent on their games which is two hundred and fifty one million of that six eighty. What's the mood? More than half of the revenue in the first year is is is spent on epic games impressive team. What was the big so fortnight but wasn't as Borland Serie and no I mean it's exclusive on the on the okay? Okay now but that would that would fall under third party PC games that's really weird. That's like do. They have does advocate of anything besides fortnight that anybody would spend money on at this point probably not. There's that other mobile game to that Obama. PC thinks okay presumably most of the shadow complex. Because I think is not free anymore. Probably most of this junk is four night revenue. But that's a quarter of a billion dollars. The Third Party Games James. I made have made on the store for the amount of games on there. That looking at per game still not say. That's probably pretty good. They they're not a zillion and games on they they say and of course they. Would they say that all these numbers are like well ahead of their projections for where this thing would be so. They seem pretty pretty pleased. They put out a list of the most popular. They didn't like rank them or giving numbers but Besides fortnight most popular games on the store our World War Z.. Satisfactory three dauntless entitled juice game which I guess sold over a million copies saw cable from those across platforms. Yeah I'm sure but cable from panic was up there on twitter saying they passed a million for them on the world's borderlands three Metro Exodus Division to and control. Not The are. The Albion does not on this list. I thought it was an episode out of world. It was also on the council on. PC game pass right. Got In that for a lab much people still bought it for four price. Apparently running windows ten. So yeah they. They said they're going to keep giving away games for free this year and they also sort of doubled down on they basically said hey our strategy of securing exclusives on this store we view as crucial all to the success. And we're GONNA keep you and it seems to have worked for them for all for all the people that have been angry about it and it doesn't seem like that's necessarily dissuading them. Yeah so they've got dollar numbers to back that up. I guess now sure thing. We'll keep going trello board in a while. I'm not sure where they're at thought. I read that they added open critic review not recent very recently seen them talking about that. You user reviews on and listen to her on there no they Yeah is on their to do list but I think I thought I remember them saying that they were going to allow developers to turn turn that on or off or have some control over that took steam like ten fifteen years to figure out the review things so and I. I don't think they've quite gotten there. I think that the all reviews recent reviews the tone stuff mostly negative mostly positive. I think that stuff's really good. But yeah that's that's been surprisingly useful the digging into the actual reviews themselves. Still doesn't seem sure. Great seems breaking out a soundtrack section. I read yesterday. Dan Patrick Movies and stuff and that's separate store. They've been running for a long time. But it's always been until now this is rolling out big next tweak but until now soundtracks have only been deal see. You couldn't buy a soundtrack on steam unless you bought the base game. I like you because it just doesn't let you buy deal for Games Malone hadn't noticed which is kind of a bummer. So they're breaking all that stuff out it's going to be its own lake soundtrack. Store music store. That's cool because they improved like the music controls in steam listening to music as they started selling more and more of it They're gonNA have better stuff in there for developers specify like what quality of files they're selling opt optin lost Lewis stuff and like sounds like might as well as new museum. soundtracks have become pretty big business on steam music. Yeah Yeah who would AC- recently shipped on the Game Store Library Grid View. My staff the coupons. Everybody's on stuff installed on. There is a way to see that good. I forget to do when you're installed it'll show you the drive letter. Good show improved. Patch sizes humble bundle integration positive deal. I mean there are some just like central stuff on here. Such as Brazilian Support Class Saves is on the board not done or not done that came out a while ago. But it's on a game by game basis. The team is due. Looks like it's a bunch of storefront discovery stuff is is most of what's up next self-service refunds wishlist. I so yeah. They got a little ways to go. I have no problems with the client. I know you don't say you don't watch it very much. Yeah like I. It's it's in my case it's like Oh hey that game is out. And it's only on the epic store and I go okay. I'll go play at their and then stop launching. Generally it mostly works. It's pretty barebones airboats. Now you can play it on God galaxy to want to I saw. I tried that Beta Song Beta. But now it's pretty slick. Yeah that's the word I would use. It's I find it interesting to look at. If I had more friends that were using dog I would find it more interesting. Because it's the only part about it. I think is cool as the data of yeah like bringing all the achievements and stuff together which you know. We used to do that so I think I'm just I'm excited looking at that. I was doing it but data we're going but but in terms terms of like actually I've never used it to launch a game. I watch it and look at it and go like. Oh Yeah. It's nice to get an idea because I have. I roped in you play epic origin origin steam and the game. So it's like a good overall view. Well some of the data is really interesting. Too like average time played for witcher. Three on Gog is seventy eight hours. uh-huh which seems insane. I'm not sure if that counts me but only played like half an hour or something they hit the. I wish I could remember what the number was. They hit some number. That was bigger this this year this past year than it was over time played or someplace team like the current revenue was in the way back. That game is just going and going I need I need to get through that at some point. I've been saying that for all right but I would expect the Gog number to actually really be pretty high because I feel like the people that are big into into this stuff enough to know what Gog is are people that are likely to play. The shit out of the witcher likely acted will want to support. Yeah Yeah Cyber whatever OECD project yeah cyber whatever cyber whatever coming soon it's a pretty the good thing about the F. F.. Seven remake is like a week before cyberpunk now which is a big competitor to the right people to two different audiences but Couple of headlines. I had in here before bigger stuff happen but I'll just read them real fast. Platinum took a big investment coming from ten cents Platinum Games and isn't maker of being a Annetta and so forth They say our companies independence will not be changed is what they say. It's a very short press release i. Google translated from Japanese doesn't say anything about like what percentage of the company tencent handsome owns now or whatever but Adam to the list and they said in that press release that they were GonNa get into publishing. They're going to be putting out the Games now. They're looking looking to start publishing really their own stuff or other people's to others okay. So that was the implication at least again. Google translate. That's interesting okay why not rockstar. Delisted grand theft auto four from steam game for windows live search and then they said it's because they never took the games. I live support out of that game and they can no longer generate new keys. Funny so they say they're looking into other options for continuing sell that game on steam when well is in the is. It sewn the rocket launcher. I don't think it's no. I don't think it ever made it into their again. I I don't think there's a version of that game on. PC's that doesn't doesn't live in it. Yeah so this people who bought it and and already had a key issue they can still play it and it's fine. They just they cannot sell the game right now and I assume they'll just take against ruined his life stuff out. Finally you'd think or I mean nobody's who's buying well that's the thing right is like okay. Is it worth it to them. As a because it's really funny wise to do the work to take that stuff out as an archival thing you'd like to care about their games. Bright version of it on their launcher. To which you know why not. I wouldn't be surprised if they game. Still make some money sure. Yeah it's like it's the best is does it make enough enough for them to justify the work to strip all that stuff out like that's the thing it's just selling old. GTS Like thirty bucks right so a lot of plot. Yeah Yeah like San Andreas this is on the Rockstar. Launcher and stuff like that. Episodes from Liberty Liberty City is still up on steam which I guess means. They didn't sell enough copies of that. Run Out of keys. Yell it wasn't isn't that a separate as a separate clammy and it's a separate product played. There's like a standalone bundle or whatever all right that'll be out here I played a bunch of GTE four on apiece back in the day. Okay I even look xbox profile to confirm and I have achievements in the PC version of that game But I went to steam games not at my library So I guess I didn't played on steam. So where did I play it. Like where else would I have gotten the PC version of that game. I think they may have done a standalone version. Outside of steams you may have just gotten a game like windows live. Ki- right downloaded from Microsoft. Did install it from a fucking disc maybe remember disc for it did but the not would be bound to the Games for marketplace. Is that right yeah. Is it possible to get those games. Probably because I also I also owned Viva Pinata for PC. That way. I I don't know if they have shut off the siege. PINATA valve waitressing valve owns Yada. We're never going to see another one now. The SPIGOT has run dry. Yeah it's a weird situation. I would like it immediately. Made me mad. I'd never gotten. UTA on on steam. As soon as I saw that I couldn't but I don't know how to get that game back That game is in my steam library all right last story. It's Super Nintendo world which is opening in Osaka In Japan this year and they put out a trailer for hello screen. The university part of Universal Studios Japan. Or if it's a separate landmass the just as from what I'm seeing here. It's hard being but they got Charlie L. E. X.. To do this trailer assigned concert like three three three months too. She's great you're gonNA wear power up bracelet. The fuck I am. I guess we're GonNa Watch trailer Santo. I watched it already. It's weird I haven't seen it either. Sure your heads bullet space okay smiles. Oh my God we're like playing switch games and these people we're going to play Lantis. Also those types of showed up in the middle of this office uh-huh jumped in crazy. Normally trouble type shows up the channel. Everybody's very excited that they hear the radio. She's said astronaut from earlier. Does this confirm the speculation that Mario was not human. These people are clearly human. These people are oh him that guy in the green red and blue the just ran by is not does not appear to be the lady by the Xhosa Kahoka floating blocks that you can like. I imagine they would have to put floating question mark block around Augustine part for videos weird because there is not one frame of the actual park. If I'm able to jump up and did a goddamn question Russian blind at some point I haven't coined papa bid failed. It'll just make the northern. You could buy those now. They're going to be like that. to Go or other shit. Shooting fireballs and other humans are murdering each other with fire. It's Okay Marie turns into the dance. Number Fuck Yeah. They're playing Mario Kart. I guess they have said. It'd be hard Margaret Riding Joshi can you ask for like a Yoshida. Be delivered. tearoom liked per hour after hour very physical. Yeah so they're they're saying they're going to give you some risks fan. They power up ban that we work at smartphone APP. While you're in the park okay. Doing stuff Disney's had a lot of stuff like that. Ah Well tomorrow. He's going Yahoo but he's with all these people that are just real people. You'RE GONNA kiss one of them finally. I hope it's probably not. There's no difference speech so she's not not human in principle. I like the idea of her. Being the Master Control Program for this whole thing and young over it from above and then destroying it. Yes we have the power papa opening this summer. Yeah I mean I. I wonder if there's been mandate as they build. These rides like every single one must be interactive four-game like in some way I wonder if they're all going to be this weirdly competitive or cooperative thing. I think you're using your phone to log in or something that that can be just as easy as fast pass like on a ride type thing scheduling power bands are NFC wristbands. You'RE GONNA use to you. Could you could whatever never whatever it could be for stuff in the park. You could check into a ride with. There's a lot of a lot of different dumb things. Banned Women Bloomberg had a reporter at this press conference. They say these responds are going to be used to make you feel like you're part of the game world and collect digital coins and compete with others. Okay so John. What's what's the biggest pokemon go? They could put into this park to get people to. Oh Shit there any legendary titan thing. Well there's like there are or regional exclusives. They can only get in European or Asian countries. So they could just do a giant ass raid tomorrow in Pokemon go. Oh Wow I just imagined this huge theme park full of people staring at their phones and not moving. I feel like that may Disneyland. The most part do any kind of a our stuff though you can hold your phone up and look at stuff ass. According according to this Bloomberg reporter at the press conference they literally compare themselves to Disney. Sure I mean it's brutal. Universal Studios Japan Marketing Director said if Disney is the dreamworld than universal studios is the wake world where we will. Energize is you and make you feel alive. Okay also apparently the new brand slogan for all this stuff is no limit so skateboards gay gordons right in there. Who Yeah? I'm excited. you think masterpiece by masterpiece into the final boss Super Nintendo world. He's buying land in the mushroom kingdom. Yeah he's GONNA real estate. Magnate came in Bowser riding the tank up would love to write a take. Oh my God odd. So we're going right so And we know it opens us. I didn't yeah this year. I didn't see this anywhere else. I'd polygons story at the bottom. Just says Super Nintendo world will expand stateside. But there's no time line for the expansion universal studios at some point At some point it will lose one in La. Yeah but that's probably like what years away. I'm sure it takes ages to build these things. We're GONNA have to go now. I'm sorry origin. I wonder if there's like big run on a soccer this summer from all around the world people trying to get into this thing. I wonder maybe there's a whole subset. I fell into a youtube. Whole visiting lighting par people and like filming is like four cage but not not not even just like rollercoaster people? That's a whole different different thing. Oh Yeah team par people. Yeah people like selfie narrated videos those runs the whole gamut of like youtube stuff of like like this is like style going through the ride or like I'm GonNa tell you everything that's going on the ride or they'll be narrating over footage and stuff so so I can totally see a whole flood of people coming just to see right as part of the Park Yeah Apple. TV screen savers drone footage. Having those like a special are like music park section for like really high end Disneyland like Pennsylvania Bullshit or county fairs is how sad people get. I'd I would watch that. It was like wow see people getting it on and throwing up at the same time behind an outhouse. You can carney a blowjob county fair. And didn't this time out with the Olympics. Also Oh yes yes. It is actually gonNA sucks. Here's our fly over the Calgary stampede. Totally coincides with the Summer Olympics. A little boy yes indeed. That'll be a mess. Jeez Olympic Village. We're not now in the mushroom kingdom. Yeah boy now's the flower that okay all right that does it for the news. We need to say one more quick break. I actually have to leave during the break to go play hot new video game. That's right I might have to Aleve during debate to go get my teeth cleaned gonNA handle emails go on an actual assignment as an actual assignment to what are you talking about. It's GonNa hurt way more than playing whatever because because we'll be back with emails that's right right after this. I'm I'm excited to hear. We think about this video game excited to hear what I have a feel about dentistry. Yeah Ah Dennis as well. I haven't had time. How do you floss story? I floss twice a day brush once a day. I take care of my ship and I I have had some tooth pain over the holiday us. All right we gotta go right all right. We're back we're back is right right me. Time to the Jason here. The ones you love. That's right to take these emails from you. You you write bomb comcast a giant bomb dot com is the email address. Send us these emails. Read them read them. Maybe we'll pick some maybe read them on a podcast. Is this one. Yeah tune in to find his cereal. Is it the Marc Maron show. Yeah you could send them. I'm to send us your emails. And maybe we'll read them on someone else's pocket you never know that's what I do. It's really unlikely that's going to happen. It could got a guy at a wrestling company. We could get him Ford him some of these emails and he could read them good. Yeah yeah he's probably look for. Content could have corey graves as answer. This question about the Food Bathtub Jake writes in. I'm sorry about this email. Got It is safe for. The end is preface. Let's say for the sake of incentive you're being offered all of your monetary needs be met for the rest of your life if you can and eat an entire bathtub full of food while sitting in it you get to choose the food for your tub and the starting temperature anything the thickness of gravy and up is eligible. The contents of the TUB must come up to your belly button. There is no time limit but you cannot leave the tub meal until it consumed so spoilage. Spoilage temperature inconsistency will become an issue. Utensils are also allowed. That's a a wide variety of rules. I think I have my exact answer. That would be eh easy okay. Cheese easy cheese. You would go easy cheese. No no no I got excited. I'm sorry you know either of you have answers so this is going to be like a liquid food right. It could just be a bathtub. Anything about being a liquid food. It says anything. I have a great food that I would love for to be. I don't know that I could actually do In in any amount of time yeah tub up to my belly button up your belly early button. Am I naked. I'm going to say yes. Yes okay. Pizza Rolls Pizza Rolls. I was rolling about that. Yeah I would love to do that. I would love to try to be man. I've eaten a lot of pizza rolls in one sitting but I don't know that I could eat it like to the heating plateful. Yeah I'm not supposed to do that. No no no. That's probably that's bad for bad for you. Yes for a number of reasons right. It's bad for anybody honestly for you because they're so good case Damas pace it is. Yeah Yeah Okay. What's in the case of? Yeah I like a steak okay. Yeah whole steak or just you know jobs up stuff specifically Taco bell cases knockout bathtub bathtub. Full time thinking about it in terms like I want to get this over with. What's the actual food to put in this thing to just get it done? And it's potato chips okay. Oh yeah they don't they. There's a little bit of air between them. Sure sure it's going to get really messy at the very end though. Yeah it could like I would request get put in the best of before. The chips were inserted. I'm envisioning it's always that because if you're if you're measuring at home as your belly button right and that's going to be different gear. We're going to sit down and because I could I would squish a Lotta pizza rolls right. That'd be bad at cannock Pizza rolls stuff but yeah gross. Yeah usually gotta pay good money for that kind of action right I think potato chips would be very doable complain complain. Yeah I'd probably yeah probably just bake lays basically a straightforward. Yeah good okay might be able to salty. But you've got a faucet right there you could you know you'll more ways than yeah if if I could just like occasionally yeah if I could occasionally have like just a sip of a drink or something trump than than than that. Go Out Rain Front easy easy. My son has been known to drink his bath water. Watch out for that they do that. Oh it's fucking Weirdos. You shouldn't probably shouldn't do that. I don't let him. I don't think he just does it. Yeah no it's yeah it's gross. Have you tried providing fighting an alternate drink at bath. Time like you're going to drink anything have this no. We grabbed a mission. It's too early so we have we just got a Gumbo Chair. Okay Yeah I've had a bum bo-bo yeah yeah we got a bum bum though and And she can sit up and Kinda has had control now just happened all the ways wobbly. And we've we've been giving her oatmeal a little bit just like get her own. She's opening wide for it and stuff. It's fucking crazy. It's like a perk. She's like a person they're gonNA. Yeah they they gone looks at home she can see the wheels turning. You see like she's trying to figure out it's crazy. I don't watch out for babies or people. Yes they don't tell you that no scary Nathan from tomato Washington writes in and says hi. What was the first alcohol beverage alcoholic beverage? You tried sailor Jerry's rum Yeah I was a mixed. Did you just have a straight shooting it. I can't do a strain but I've been I've been known to consume namesake. Jerry I think with with COQ cokes mildly delicious. It's been it's been like a decade now of that. I can't. I can't really drink romney more since the video. Yeah like that video. That's on like that video. There was so much rum and then so much spilled spilled on and around. My stuff was sticky and rummy for a little while afterwards that like the just the smell of rum now ever since then I cannot do it probably had like to rum and cokes since then Several when I was a kid I thought people were saying Roman Coke Roman coke. Yeah Goeman Columbia Roman coke. What does that some boozy coke? I don't know I think the first time to hide drank. I think it probably just some shitty beer honestly just some bad high school party O or I getting back. Probably that would also remember some Shitty Highschool Party where we were drinking white Russians and I might have been that might have been the first time who might have the first time I like willingly said like yes. I would like or wasn't like a ridiculously young child. Like having some sip of something right where some drunk relative going like your eyeball kid guard. Then I can drink and said yes. Let's have another one. It was either some keg of fucking garbage beer yet or Scott to be it for me like wine coolers I mean not the bottles and James but like a two liter they really cheap shit. Oh my God yeah had to have been one of those two shitty beer were shitty one core. You're okay many drinks. Chief from Blacksburg Virginia writes in Boy. Hello Hello inspired by Jeff's lasers and someone who does research aided by lasers here are some fun facts regarding lasers I learned using them and during the safety training. This sounds is dangerous if safety training. You're learning what not to do this. Zero three three bullet points. Here's the first one. If you were exposed goes to high power lasers to your is the back of your I can boil and explode outward funded showed pictures at the safety class was fucked. No Oh oh shit. Laser safe laser safety glasses work by blocking out a certain range of wavelengths essentially colors from the light spectrum. What's fucked is? Is that by wearing the safety glasses that you cannot see where the laser is wearing safety. Glasses for. Green laser will block out all green light making it necessary to remove them at times to work with them just to see what Italy's goes. Yeah yeah could be anywhere. Yeah they're sneaky. We have pulsed lasers that only shoot for nanoseconds at a time fem second lasers exists to. We don't have any at our lab says it fires for such a short duration their peak power is incredibly high. And you can do fun. Stuff such as vaporizing air molecules and creating plasma asthma sparks plays lease visit simultaneously fascinating. And scariest fuck what if you shoot lasers at one another what happens. Yeah if I get a second laser in my eye will it explode. Is that like a way to do somebody thirty. Yeah if I have Laser that our series of lasers that I have set up in a way that like writes my name in cursive over. The course of some nanoseconds ran I blast asked those at someone very quickly and burned into their flesh so without even realizing what happened. Oh I thought you were going to say in. There is so whenever they closer is that. Now you're talking. Yeah I mean they do that with jeans now to manually distress them instead of having to do it yourself these lasers yeah they use lasers like kind of ash it on yeah. We're just wants to do that. To People Dave use lasers on my is they do quarter-sized like some blood vessels in they're like Nah. Probably with Santo seconds. That's that sounds. That sounds bad. Just a mild boiling. How on Overwatch League team names are you? I'm not up. I see there's a Minnesota rocker or something at a San Francisco and then maybe this will work. Okay this is from Adam in Baton Rouge with the start of the revitalize. XFL less than a month. Away I figured it'd be fun to get to know the new teams with a little quiz. I call XFL or Overwatch League team. The rules are simple. There are ten teams here. It's up to you to guess if this is an XFL team or an Overwatch League team. Okay we we team up Jin. Yeah Yeah Okay I want a combined answer all right okay Dallas fuel. That is a overwatch that sounds like an overwatch team that isn't over watched him Ding Ding Ding Washington. Justice that sounds XFL team that overwatch team. Shit what the the Saint Louis Battle Hawks the XFL. Yes Saint Louis. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I don't think Overwatch Treatment St Louis that isn't XFL NFL team. Atlanta Rain R. E. I G. N. Dole. Overwatch that's over one. That is over. Watch the the Seattle dragons I think. That's XFL. I want to say overwatch. I'll defer to you okay the XFL gala. Aw damnit never listen to me ever again the DC defenders we already have one from DC. We had a Washington Washington. I think. defenders defenders. You wouldn't want an overwatch team to just be defenders. XFL I've never heard of these guys the NFL. Okay so Philadelphia fusion that sounds like it overwatch business yeah well but it is alliterative Philadelphia fusion power. They spelling fusion Properly Okay Ph Ph d you AH. Let's say okay. Let's go over. Well it's overwatch okay. The Tampa Bay Viper Cyber Wars. XFL team if I ever heard yeah it's just Randy Oriana the side of the helmet go hog this like. He does never expect the New York Guardians. Oh my God defenders Guardians Overwatch. XFL New York Guardians. Yeah that's that's my destiny sports team. Oh okay the new the Houston outlaws that's XFL I WANNA say overwatch but we'll say. XFL You atom. All I think we all those teams are bad but like suitably futuristic each ristic. Yeah I like the idea of like someone having to come up with new sports teams names in this day and age the packers are just not gonna cut it. What the fuck do that? Yeah Yeah. What's the packer? Yeah as you know all right. That's the letter night for fucks sake. It's just a letter. Yeah the OMEGAS. Now that's how aalto. Yeah get away with that. The defender Guardians. Jesus Christ we'd have like the San Francisco Patagonia or something it was the demons before the. XFL Didn't we have hockey team for a hot second. San Jose sharks sharks but there's the there was a San Francisco. LEAD THE COW PAL. Yes they did it was some NHL. Oh it wasn't show okay right right. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. That was not not a real. That's that's not a NHL team is like IHL or some sub league or something. But Yeah I got to look it up now San Francisco Cisco Cisco Him. That's not scandal dragons that doesn't really spark fear into me because dragons are real. Well yeah the Bulls San Francisco Bulls. Oh what the balls the balls the balls doubles they play in. Apparently they play Daly City Cow Palace. Okay or they used to they no longer on their part of the C. H. L.. I don't know what that is the San Francisco spiders the San Jose Barracuda. What who? Yeah we one Pope Brian in Las Vegas a cheer about this guy