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The Prospect Series: Corey Pronman and Scott Wheeler on the next generational player, top 3 2020 pick progression and the top 64 prospects for '21
"Come to the full sixty featuring craig customs and presented by the athletic each week. We'll dive into the biggest stories in hockey while bringing in unique voices to entertain and explain all aspects of the game. Hey this is craig and welcome to this week's episode of the full sixty. This is our monthly when we remember it or feel. It's needed prospect series episode. And i am excited to have both corey prominent and scott wheeler separately. We don't wanna put together. We don't want to. We want to have two separate conversations but we are going to talk prospects and as we get closer to the draft cordless. We still don't know it is short fisher. Although i think we suspect we know there's more and more news. It's coming out and both have been pumping out stories lately and we're gonna start with cory cory. How are you thinking of doing this. I'm doing well in terms of you mentioned the draft. I think now that we're kind of entering the second half of the season in a normal time that's usually when we start thinking about the draft Everything we're hearing as we kinda. We kinda believe there will be some draft some form you know at some point this summer. we just put up a midseason rankings Few weeks ago there will be an season ranking at some point. Some mock drafts. At some point we're taking by week right now but it's a lot of the draft right. Now is a big of focus of my time right now until they tell me you shouldn't be otherwise i think the gm's are gonna lose the battle here. F i think that seems to be the way is going and i think because the whol is starting the division has already played two weekends full of games The other divisions are one division. Starting this upcoming weekend the one the at the weekend after we think the ontario hockey league has got to start. I can't tell you the exact specifics of that. Those variables in scouts are going the whol games to mine not just completely a blocked off many people. All those variables. I think are pushing this thing towards happening in the summer. Yeah i if purely from our perspective. I'm really happy to hear that. The idea of back toback drafts from somebody who works in the media in. I like having the draft to work towards the idea of that. I thought was going to be disastrous. Nia installed and it seems like a lot of these ideas did come from management. Because when i would be talking to people in the Who are nhl scouts. I didn't talk to a law that who are in favor of delaying it. I definitely didn't talk to any of them who were in favor of the to draft idea because you can imagine what it would be like from the foot the foot soldier perspective where they've got prepare Once the year would have ended. You can't just say okay. We watched the o. Three age group put them in a binder and open up in a year from now. No you've got those guys are gonna play full extra season now and you've gotta follow them for a full extra year while also following the all fours so a lot of you like talked to were big fans of that or or. There's the idea of delaying general. I think a lot of people lost. Not all scott talked about a lot where we're definitely in favor of of going for it definitely pushed by management who i think you know understandably the pressure on them to make the right decisions and if they felt like there was information shortage. They probably weren't a big fan of that idea But i think frankly though if you kind of looked at the draft most of the top end prospects have gone a chance Full season definitely some of the top ontario. Kids are not having played yet. But you know you look at the university of michigan. All those guys who played a full season the entity piece played a full season. Usa chelsea played a full season. The fin finland in in russia's played full seasons. Sweden's got a good chunk of a season in for almost all of their top guys. The west will mccue west head of can have a half season accused can have a decent chunk of the season. You know it. It seems like the component are there for us to move forward even if it's going to be somewhat of a challenge for evaluators and in that will bring us to our first point of conversation here because it is a challenge for evaluators in the normal list of seasons. I don't even know normal in the most normal of seasons And even as we look back now at twenty twenty draft in your watch how the era started with with the rangers Stupa how good he looks. I think and you wrote about this this week. In the athletic in talking in past tense year will be reading about it. As we record you'll have written by the time this pod drops about the top of that draft You are we already reordering. Twenty twenty draft when you talk to scouts. What do people think of how it started for the three at the top. What i think the drafts are always being reordered. You know whenever you whenever he pilot list like the list. I put out for the twenty twenty one draft in a couple of weeks ago legis snapshot in time like that list is already changed a little bit since i last put it out and for twenty twenty draft analyst continues to change as information comes in For you know for last year's draft when those symbols top russian prospects like ego chenikov Commodore and replaying into the fall. That reorganize teams lists in those in those weeks leading up to the draft. So yeah i think you're you know the the three guide you three top guys frontier stolen by You continue to watch evaluate them. There's some other guys down the line like a guy carolina steph jarvis. Who was leading the american hockey league in scoring right before he got sent back to junior. Like you know that's something you looking awhile. You know even for thirty dollar all at still really impressive for a fourth round. Pick zayd wisdom my philadelphia who is appointed game. That's a guy who can alter his draft stock by playing that way. Not draft stock but ultra. His perception in the industry is overall value Focusing on the top three guys. The frontier stewart's on by field. I think it's you know between his play. The roegiers now national hockey league between the three stooges had the most impressive last six months You know he was a guy who garnered. mvp votes at the world junior carrying a german team. That didn't have a lot of talent. Didn't have a lot of players. They risen almost half a good chunk of their roster for large parts that tournament. And we're still competitive in that tournament because of the players. Tim suits la and now with ottawa. Not the scoring. the scoring is important. But when you watch ottawa like he looks like a guy who is making a difference in those games different. He's a top player in the league. But you see you see him. Stand out when he's on the ice with his skating and his skills his playmaking his work ethic like he just seems to make things happen when he's on the is at a fairly a normal rate which is not something that happened the lottery. Thirteen year olds they up. They played power play. They score a little bit. They habit struggles when it really seems like hit the ground running and that's been really impressive for a guy who you know. When he played in the top german league he was really impressive. They're us impressive. The world juniors but there wasn't really a lot of precedent of guys coming out of that top german leak and becoming top. Nhl players think of a guy. Like leon draisaitl. He didn't play in europe. He played on the western hockey league. The best guys That lead drafted that legal guys. Like you'll can heche who were nice players. But he's not like top echelon talents so it was definitely wasn't sure how quick he would translate has gained the national hockey league but particularly with his skating ability. He shown he he was ready to be a good player right away. How what's your concern level with I can't say you know there's no concert i understand. He's eighteen and he has such a rich track record and the so much skill that i don't think you wanna say there's a ton of reason to be alarmed but you can't say that his start is inspiring either. He hasn't you know he's had some. He had hanukkah little stretch last week where he was scoring more often. And you watch. There's flashes of the skill on the play. Making you also watch me. You can see like he's having some struggles with with with his skating with his pace right now at the top level and i do think it's going to come. I think he's just too way to talented particularly with his hockey sense. That i think with time you are going to see this guy. Evolve launched a good player but a great player guy. Plays right at the top of the lineup. Plays on your top power play. I think he has the skill components. The work ethic component the playmaking in the goalscoring components. That is going to come the one you watched him in junior. The one thing you were worried about it is game could be a little slow sometimes and that's been the main concern watching with the rangers initially I do think it's going to come. I think he's gonna be great. But i think it's also fair to point out that i would say it's fairly a little bit more concerned about his projection and what he could ultimately become. You watch how he transitioned to. Nhl initially it. We were talking before about you know when someone's eighteen nineteen years old of course there's going to be struggles but as you point out that always the case when people walk into the league in light it up but like austin matthews in novice. It's been a while since we've had that happen in the nhl level. How have you looked at a you know. A prospects first season in what that ultimately indicates about their career path. Because i think jack hughes is somebody who you could say. Hey look struggle last year but clearly we seen the benefits of him having the time to build himself into tune nhl player. I just am curious if there's some indicator if they come in right away in light it up that's an indicator there a star if they don't you know what does that mean. Yeah like it's not always a guarantee but typically look at a guy like like the highest echelon eighteen performance and they tend to project long term to be chew nhl stars. There's like the off exception. There don't recall the guy's name but they almost all end up being that on the guys on the lower end of the still tend to project out rather well you. Obviously you know the more you score the more than indicator it is a future scoring. And that's you know that's not a surprise but yet you mentioned jack us you'll want that's one data point. There are some data points you know. There's i'm sure you might remember. Joe thornton didn't score ball in in his in his first season and he extra while go going there and then there's no other first overall picks on the lower end like a patrick to didn't work out you know right. Neutral hopkins pretty good hasn't developed to a true star but he's a great great players still There's there's it's not everything that's why you have to at least keep in mind what you saw before. You can't just throw out his his rich junior history and and what you know of his talent level because his first twenty thirty forty maybe even eighty games if if this was a full season You know didn't go the way you hope to what you gotta keep. You gotta keep everything perspective there but you have to also incorporate. The new information is still really like a frontier. Just like after. Jack's i uh season i still bought. This guy's going to be a great and i'll player john really hot this year Know cooled off a little bit. But he's still all one new jersey's best players. I still think a friend is gonna become one of the rangers best players in due time whether it's next season or this season after Something along those lines But it's kinda hard you know if a guy is not scoring. it's not a good thing it's basic but it's kind of where we stand right now other examples of somebody that just lit it up as an eighteen nineteen. I'm trying to think it didn't work out as a career. I'm trying to think it was i. I wish i had the name of top head It was it was a guy who plays for the kings. I believe it was like back in the nineties right That's that's really the the inverse if that's true it's gonna i hit who the names by. No there's somebody anyways is what is i mean you know you know. Maybe not like the exact like elite level. But i'm sure you might remember and he's playing really. Well now remember. When aaron black i league at eighteen he was tremendous at eighteen. Like you have some of the best numbers every bite. Eighteen year. Old defenseman initiatives like that next step like five six years. You see this year is having a great season right now. But you know development isn't always a straight line sometimes it's a it's a someone who has to know cover. Hundreds of thousands of players in wash their various developments there. There's a lot of ups and downs. I think i wonder if defenseman are different. Because like i remember tyler myers coming in right away. And it was like holy cow skies superstar. You know he fine but he looked really good that year. All the guy like ross. Mozelle lean after the hype of his draft season came in eighteen and he was really good for an eighteen old events mentally. You know he wasn't Top score but historic looking other eighteen year. Old events menu will he was really really You know productive in that the next step and has gained hasn't been taken yet You know you don't want to isolate on a couple of players you want. You hopefully would use a larger sample to to make your point but player tricky. There's never there's never a clear answer as much as someone like me may protect confidence in the things. I'm saying you you understand. There's wide uncertainty bars in all the things that you say. I think Not to over. Generalize but i think i'm less worried about a defenseman who doesn't dominate right away than i am a center. You know what. I mean are winger forward. Yeah i you know. I've heard arguments for always I don't know whether the position really makes the difference Like i think we all wanna keep the whole evaluation perspective in terms of their tool kit in terms of what they're showing you in the nhl. How tools translate terms of what you've seen before that said we have seen young defenseman step in young age. All you know car quinn skin An and do rather well. So i like every every player you know individual case so it's funny we haven't had Maybe this is just the cycle of life but we had that stretch where it was like get mcdavid in eichel in matthew's in it was like hey. This is the golden era of the young players. Coming in in. We're seeing you know every player better than the last and it's it's amazing. You may remember as well. That nathan mackinnon wasn't so hot those first couple of years. And that's that's a great young kennedy greenway. It took while he was really good the first year and then cooled off. And they're like oh ever gonna come and obviously now you know. He's the guy if you don't discuss in the top five players you know you get really hateful comments from from colorado sell right You know it's funny. How life works out that way. I just wonder if there's a reason why the last few number one over up we haven't had that pure franchise player. I think and i don't know if none of them were being sold as franchise players maybe delaying a little bit like he was in the next defensive cornerstone but yet we haven't had that that generational guys in a few drafts is. Who's an extra is there. Is there anybody coming down like. I guess it's not this. It's an extra right people believe that's the one where we might get the next one. Yeah Yeah i've never thought dowling jack you or the Were quote unquote generational trauma guy. You thought could be. This guy could beat the best player in the league at his position Like you thought at mcdavid could for example. I always thought all three of them were really could be so true. A cornerstone all star types but thought they reached the mcdavid or crosby level. Type of prospects in this year's draft The top end is frankly the concern for me And by the mean because it's the concern there will be no great players. I thought two thousand and seventeen hundred concerning top with nickel nolan patrick. And obviously it generated as pederson gilman car and miro heiskanen becomes that matthew years becomes that maybe dylan ginther own power or whoever becomes you know. A true nhl star. I think given how much information we don't have picked me on a guy like again through plays out west. It wouldn't shock me if in three or four years from now you're talking about him as one of the best up and coming young in the nhl anything can happen But going into twenty twenty two. There is certainly indication that shane right could be that caliber prospect although kind of like with everything else the lack of information keeps me from being overly confident about that. he was fantastic as an exceptional fifteen year. Old -tario hockey league outstanding. Who can compare him to like mcdavid into veras Season at the same age. Like he's right. He's right up there but you don't see how that translates to the next season. does he. to gretzky is underaged house. He has fair there has to the. Oh l. of this season We don't have the answers to those questions I think he definitely could. I've seen i've walked my by indicators. There's some special things about him. But you know. I can't sit here right now tell you. I think this guy's gonna be the next mcdade love prospect. I just don't have that kind of information on me to say that with confidence other than you know at fifteen. He looked like he had a chance. Right alright we don't usually we don't ever use your hours so we're gonna we're gonna fly through a couple of topics here You touched on prospects who could be traded in This is always a fun. Time of year with the trade deadline. And i tend to focus on the nhl players that are going to be moved in. Who the big names that are going to be moved. But oftentimes as part of those big packages prospects are going the other way Who you put your list together in. That was a little tougher right. Because you're talking about it you know. We don't know what these packages are gonna look like. Are there guys. You're hearing you know it's a change of scenery is really likely at this point. I think henrik bork. German florida's one. I keep hearing a lot just because frankly even in the florida organization anymore. He's unsigned playing in finland at the moment on it just seems like that once kind of the classic change of scenery one. That one definitely seems like one win. Surprised to see. Montreal booby defensemen. They have a lot of defenseman right now in if they truly believe they are a buyer or they have a chance to make some noise in the playoffs. They've got like six seven quality left hand defense prospects and just makes sense to you know to use that those assets did try improve the team. If you feel you've got a chance this year on other other ones. You hear you have less confidence song. Obviously with with buffalo being kind of wide open for business Here like a neighbor. Casey middle status on You know Carolina's gonna have some tough decisions to make whether mortgagee gear. Jake bean mom how they're going to balance the fact they have a rather deep farm system. With the fact david deep roster have to make an expansion draft decision So what they do with their ross will be interesting And then you know the the one the multiple Hanging out there is what is slow to do about spencer night. I i don't think they want to trade. I don't i probably would bet against him actually. Being traded within the next twelve months but that is an issue at some point that organization is going to have to face with off. How do we deal with this. Great young goalie prospect with the fact that we have a extremely highly paid goalie. We have signed for a very long time on our roster. I would argue for spencer night in this one of our favorite topics. We talk about it when we're not recording I would argue that. The bobrovsky thing might be a good scenario for him in the short term in that you have a guy that's the big money goalie. The pressures on in he can come into a situation learn from somebody but brodsky for all his faults in terms of how it's worked out in florida. I think is known as being a hard worker guy. That's you know would probably be a good. Nhl goal to learn from. You can come in and still time like we've seen do but you're not you know there's there's not the pressure of being carter heart either. I think it's not a bad situation for him. And i was going to say like he's not even mad at the at the other guys getting more starts right now. So that's right that's right. I mean that's true positive. That lake brodsky's not an obstacle. Just a weird situation realistically. He's not an angel ready next night mode. It's really rare for a go at twenty. Nba nhl ready. Carl hart did do it but but realistically that usually want to wait for a full year american league. That's what john gibson did. That's what that's what vessel leschi did. Yeah that's that's typically the rational path four there. Then you kind of see what you would do next And you know people around the league that it's very possible. Bench nichols back for junior season at dc. We'll see what happens there. Like matthew bolting out new hook. Leave out you know. I don't think any of those things are guaranteed but they they did. It would help y impact things but dumb. Yeah that that's going to be one to be interesting to look at going forward here. It will be in any time. I check in. It's like they love like spencer night. They love spencer night in. I think he's gonna be great in. No i'm sure that they that they picked thirteenth overall. No that's exactly right but you know that was the previous regime in. And so maybe like you could say okay. That was dale tallon. Pick or something. But the that i would say the bill zito administration is just as excited about him. It's just become sound. Would you pointed out at some point if you're worried you're not going to be able to sign him. Then you have to have that difficult conversation. Yup i agree We let me throw a couple. We threw it out on twitter to do our usual Twitter qna with you and a couple of questions before we wrap up to scott wheeler here. I like this question from jesse right. Who asks if we were only thinking about the best. Interest of draft eligible eligible initial players in their wellbeing. What should be done with the draft this year. That's a good question. I think we've allowed. The media's discussion has been ranked. How is it best from magic perspective house. The best team building perspective people nearby thinking what's best from our perspective. That's all i thought about liquidity into the atlantic in ability to engage subscribers that's Yes now surprise me. Nobody else questioning twitter though. Nobody for good reasons. I think from players perspective especially since there's been changes in the language of the cba that much actor from the cpa but since the players salaries are no longer directly tied to their drafts. Thought doesn't really matter whether you're the twentieth. Pick the twenty fifth pick or the thirty fifth. Pick all you know so whether or not this season could have affected your immediate financial earnings is not really as relevant as that would have been fifteen years ago. I think it's more important to the players to get drafted because once you are drafted. Then you have the development camp experience presuming the our development camp this summer and the rookie camp experience and the preseason experiencing you get to work with development with development staffs for the next twelve months. I know when they were teens. That were advocating to have the draft last june instead of in october. That was one of the primary reasons they were advocate. Like you know we want to work with these players low closer we wanna have our people working talking to them working with them you know. Have them be a part organization. And i think you would basically just have a lot of these players now. Just go you know six twelve more months without having that. Nhl experience the being pardoned organization whether they're signed or or back in college or whatever. I think from that perspective. It's important. I do get that particularly in the in the western league in ontario league there may be some players that would clearly nitto late round players that if they had played the full season they would have popped at. Maybe they get drafted. But there's going to be another draft next year to. They will get their chance. Nhl teams are looking for talent whether it's draft next draft free agents if if you show. You are nhl caliber prospect. I can promise you people are watching. They want you for their organization. And i do believe that it's in the best interest of the players may not the teams but it isn't the best interest of the players to have the draft this summer. Okay good good. Answer all right last one in analytic. Get back to whatever it is you. This will comes from steve polly chronopoulos he asks does cam york have any chance of being powerplay one in philly point power play one is high. I do like cam. I think he has really nice. Moments stretches went when. I've watched him over the last two years between michigan in the usa under twenty team. Yeah i can't say. I've watched him a lot lately. And think like yeah. This guy is gonna play right a couple of natural lineup. I haven't seen that. I see a guy who's really intelligent. He has some skill. he's a good. Not great skater I think a good player. I think he could be taught offense. I think in an ideal world you know. I can't say. I watch him and say yeah. He plays ahead of provo. Plays ahead of san heim or gaza's bear or something along those lines. I can't say that level of offensive skill to say he's definitely gonna run your top power play but i can see him be relatively in the same region as of the other guys in terms of his upturned puck game who who do you like the best of the michigan team on curiosity right now from my last ranking. I had been years. Tom ranked player. But i thought it was really close between him and the guy was a marginal drop between him to overpower modern. A drop from power to can't johnson. I watch veneers. See a guy who is not the flashiest offensive player by really really intelligent. His work ethic off the chart. I think you look at some of those guys. You always hear people's names. The people named in the nhl who are not tough scores by our centers that they absolutely love to have on their team. That play high in the lineup. That play him minutes. I think veneers can be that. I think power could be a really solid top pair. Defenseman plays in all situations and ken. Johnson is probably the most skilled player in the draft. There are some more holes in his game than other two players. Don't have but i i like those two. And frankly the the guy. I really like is luke hughes. Not at michigan but is committed to michigan. And he's really. I watching him. He's really emerged. Want top top names in the draft to so it's been a good year for the wolverines. Do you subscribe to the idea. I think our friend. Chris peters had this one of his newsletters the compared he made a comparison to eric johnson. Jonathan tapes for veneers in power. I'm not sure. I see eric johnson in in In power i think it was more like teams like the defensemen but it could end up because of nears two way play. He's taves to eric to its apologize. I i would say it's fifty fifty right now teams. I talked to which one i think. Earlier in the year was many more had power ahead. Okay i'd say the more taught to. It's very fifty fifty. Maybe like sixty forty power veneers But it's been years it's been really good lately. I think he's definitely closing that gap in that perception. I coming from that regard. I think power is a great player. I'm waiting you know it just kind of it's kind of in the elementary Which guy has that stretch where he really separates himself and that may not happen. You know maybe dylan get there. Does that. he's played really really well as during the whol. There has been that one guy that for a lengthy stretch has separate himself. So it's going to be interesting debate right now. Going into the draft talk to five. Different scouts will have a different guy. I brawl between the guys. We've mentioned that the the mexican kids use their brand clark etc coffee if we do have a summer draft that resembles discussions will ramp up in the coming months. All right. we'll we'll have you back on as we always do to ramp up If nothing else will be ramping up that discussion. That's that's our. That's our promise to listen. I don't doubt it. Thanks do this gory. Friend thank This episode of the full sixty is brought to you by blue to to is making waves and dream more confidence to the bedroom. Buju is a unique online service. That delivers the same active ingredients biogra- but in chula will form at a fraction of the cost blue choose tablets combat forms of ed and can help men extra confidence for when it's time to perform. 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Here's podcast. i'm joined by scott wheeler who has been on a great run of of work the athletic I liked his combo peaks. Peace with max boltman. On donovan is a branko is hype onset. Angrily app brand author. That was a that was an awesome piece. I loved the hockey sweet life with the red deer. Rebels get at the arena. What are year house gop. Remember for those kids and for that organization for sure. They're doing something kind of similar in shenanigan where they've got. All of the players bunked up in like residents style setup But nothing quite like what. What the red deer rebels are doing. You know what people are making. It work to the best of their abilities. You know what i'm saying like we're all doing all we can hear yup yup. I love that But i wanted you on specifically because you last week you ran your top sixty four prospects for the twenty twenty one. Nhl draft comes out at midseason typically in this year's draft is fascinating in korean. I touch a little bit on it. But it's really interesting because a scouts. Let's talk about this in the second. Scouts haven't had the normal body of work which evaluate players and be. There's not doesn't seem to be close to a consensus number one in this draft in. We're having it in july as we suspect it's going to be you know you'd like by march to have some of that figured out So i'm curious when you talk to scouts. Scott wha- what are they trying to do to make up for the fact that they can't you know they're not getting games at the pace. Normally at this point. I think the good news i some scouts is just how many cases actually ended up deciding to go over and play because the big question mark i think for this draft is of course the tone the whol the h. is now starting to get ramped back up the oh l. I mean who knows. And but i think if there's a silver lining for scouts in terms of the conversations i've tied it's that so many of those top. Oh l. players francesco pinellas Brennan off men's go down the list. Mason mctavish those kids went over to frank clark. Obviously the very top of the draft. They went over to slovakia or switzerland to play hockey. So you don't have the volume of game still for a lot of those kids by this point. The season some of those kids normally played forty fifty games. And instead you've got ten or fifteen games out of them and there in unconventional leagues missile vacuum weeks case in particular. It's easier to evaluate some of those kids switzerland. But that's that been sold back is terrible so that part of it is is is still challenging but the oh l. Getting back i think is the x. Factor it's just absolutely crucial for for these guys to be able to see those players and for those kids and not further brennan austin's or the mason mctavish is necessarily right. It's it's for the kids who need to get drafted in rounds. Four five six seven Who didn't get the opportunities because they weren't the bigger name. I ran prospects to go over to europe right. So that is i. Think the biggest hole at this point the weeks in europe the high school circuits to the states college hockey mistakes. Almost all of those leagues have actually had pretty substantial schedule. So i think we can actually get too carried away sort of complaining and what this season has been like with some of those leagues. Obviously you're doing a lot of this coating over video instead of in the rinks. But i mean the minnesota high school circuit has been open to scouts. All the scouts out and minnesota are seen those kids into buildings Permitted in all of that. So it's been a bit of a mixed bag. But i do think the up has started to happen now where people are starting to feel at least a little bit more comfortable and there are still those who have major reservations and i think the majority of scouts in teams are starting to look at this and say okay we kind of just have to get on with life and pull this off. I wonder how much it reminds me a little bit of this year's draft where it was like. Hey you know would you talk to gm's and says there any advantage for these guys that are playing now versus. Who aren't they would all say. No no no evaluating everybody the same Out and everybody was taking those guys that were plaguing the gay challenge sweden or whatever it was like. Hey that wasn't a huge advantage for those guys like you're gonna drop the people you're comfortable with right that you have most confidence in so i do think To your point about some the college system there's probably advantage for those players at this point. Yes definitely and i actually had a really good conversation with. Nhl scout about that about a month ago in terms of just asking him. Point blank is the jargon about we evaluate everyone the same and these guys are gonna get a fair shake at the end of the day. How much truth is there. They're in the conversations that you are having the reality is that they talk about the guys that are seeing play right like it's you can only zoom call and ask roundabout last season so much this especially for the children in whol kids. I would say that that sixteen year old year is very much a development till year rather than an evaluation year for nhl teams. That very first year where you're jumping from aaa hockey to junior hockey is a transition year. It's extremely hard to get a sense. For where those kids are at so unless those kids get back. Playing the tendency i think is going to be to the focus on the kids in sweden and focus on the kids in finland and russia russia Clayton has the pandemic has meeting exist. So it's a those those players i think have benefited in a in a real way to this point and now you hope that as those seasons start to end his those seasons quite early that the. Oh l. kids in the whol kids in particular can get a little bit more time in the spotlight here before we actually have the draft. All right let's talk about the top sixty four that you put out again. That's at the athletic probably easily way. Google scott's name in the atlantic you can go right to his his author page But what. I always like to know as draft. Start to take some shape and again. I think this draft were were were way off from it. Any clarity But i do like to know like the the where the where the dividing points are draft in so when you were debating the top of this draft. Who who was. Your number would Prospect to in this case it was. Oh empower the constant from the university of michigan. How deep that debate gopher you how many players deep you went about four or five players deep i think all three of the michigan kids belong in that conversation. I can't often is looked at if you were. Tourist consensus of nhl scouts can is probably easy consensus number three in that group. I prefer owen and matthew But i think santa's deserves to be right in that group. His talent really excites me and he started a little bit of that allies pederson syndrome happening right where he's skinny. Scrawny kid who's underdeveloped physically. And i think people ask questions and worthwhile questions about what that might need when he developed supplemental if you can't get a little bit stronger and may slightly better choices with the puck and that kind of thing but i'm pure skill and skating and talent with the puck and the ability to make plays and run a top power play unit and all of that. I tend to pretty unique player in this draft class. Just because it's a heavy draft and he's the one forward who really has consistently sort of wowed me in terms of his skill level. So i think all three of those kinser net conversation. I i would add. Luke cues to that conversation. I think the way he's played. This season has definitely solidified him. He's another player. That's kind of funny. 'cause i was talking to. Gte coach who would have coached against him in his aaa days growing up and he did the coach recently sort of remarked to me that. Hey this kid was nothing special back. Then it's really quite impressive that he has become the kind of player that jack and quinn were. Because he wasn't viewed that way when he was fourteen fifteen years old so luke's progression and part of that his weight birthday but his progression to this point has been a lot of fun to watch and he looks like a which stood and then the fifth one was kind of in that conversation for me. I don't think he stands any real chance of getting picked first of all because he's just a little bit of a weirder prospect in terms of his tool set. But that's brandt clark. Who obviously was one of those. Oh l. kids to go over and and play in europe and brand is a kid who you talk to people about him whether it was his minor hockey with the don flyers and that team machine right and brennan off or people in berry last year or even people in slovakia now or the skills coaches that he works with in the summer and they're just blown away by his talent live on his ability to make plays but then again a little bit like ken. Johnson he's a scrawny kid. He looks a little awkward out there at times and he doesn't look like that sort of modern physically mature. Nhl prospect that. We're used to see in. So i think that could scare some teams off at the top of the draft. And you could see him. Go more in that sort of five to ten range But i really really liked brand still set in. He's he's a ton of fun to watch. It's interesting. I always like people's preferences because you have can't johnson and brian clark to three i'm in. I'm projecting a little bit. But you just seem to love this diane skill right on my end upside whereas if i'm in i think more like I'm probably if i was ranking or drafting. A guy like veneers is kinda guy love right. You've the two way centerman you know is the kind of guy you engage with and so that would be the guy. I would gravitate towards out of this draft class just from my own perspective. Yeah and i think that's fair. And i think because of a weird this draft class has been discovered. And because there's no clear. Alexi lafraniere austin matthews mcdavid type. I wouldn't balk at that at all. I wouldn't balk at taking that. Been years i overall. I think we can get a little tied down in terms of the actual number of of the players in that kind of thing but that group of five like i mean matt is is currently fifth on my board but i could. I could be talked into it tomorrow to take him first or second overall right like it's he's an awesome awesome player. I mean we all talk about the motor and how he just never stops moving out there and he plays on the inside all of that so he easing really really good player and one of the safer bets and i think in this draft class mason one of those sort of safer okay. This guy looks like h our Bats those guys may go a little bit higher as teams worry a little bit about their evaluations on a player like brand clark or at the even further down the list. Someone like a chaz lucia. Who's been injured all year. I think teams may get just a little gun shy with some of those players because they either haven't played or they're a little bit different and the they may elect to play it with with the guy who who projects a little bit more safely to the nhl so my thought process is always who would are the hardest players to acquire right of the draft in the top. The top line to way centerman is almost impossible. You know those guys. Don't change teams since so i'm always the mind if you're at the top of the draft even if there's an explosive winger who does things that no one else does. I think it's not. I've always kind of lean this way. It's those are the kind of players. I find hard to get but to your point i think this draft has real potential to have a guy that we look back in five years and say how did he not go one like this superstar with ninth and i really do think this draft in particular to look back five. Ten years from now is going to be one of the demorris fascinating case in terms of how it's all going to play out and what we're going to think about it because there's just never been anything like this right and not only that combination of okay. This has been a very difficult draft to scout. But also the fact that it's d- heavy and i think teams more often get d wrong and they get forwards wrong and now on top of that. They're just not being a sort of clear number one number two pick kind of thing so it's going to be really revealing in terms of how much of an impact this had and i think you'll see a lot of mrs but i think you're absolutely right you. We'll probably look back at three or four players from this draft. A decade pronounce had a guy go in the second round. Or how did that guy go outside the top ten because they either just didn't play enough for teams just got the wrong because their focus was elsewhere. All right. let's get you on the record. Is there one player that you had in your top twenty or twenty five or whatever that you could have has the best potential to make people look bad terms. Were they end up. Ooh that's a good question Increasingly on falling in love with cool cylinder. Whose son of mike. I think he's got a chance to be that guy who five ten years from now is soaring seventy points in the nhl and you look back and say how did that kid. Not go in the top five. Coles had a weird year where he. He's property of the medicine hat tigers but he actually decided to stay in sioux falls instead of coming back to playing the whol this year. So he's stayed in the us hmo until the season's over the continue to play with that team. And every time. I'd watched him. He's been electric and there just lot of electric forwards in this draft. And yet when i asked around a boat him with nhl scouts a lot of scouts sort of see him in that that sort of ten to fifteen ten to twenty range rather than in the top ten conversation. And i think he's a player who could probably sort of really really surprised people and become a star. There's a little bit of pedigree draft and you mentioned luke used. How much do you know. Mike cylinders son cole. Who had a number ten in your list. How much do you think what jack quinn are doing in whether you think jack's underachieving although this year he's been good in quiz been over achieving. How much do you think. That noise hurts or helps. Luke strapped helps as much as we try to fight back against that name recognition in all of that. I do think that it helps. I think basically tavist benefits from the same way because his dad dale his dad played me each nhl. I do think that there is that. They know that those guys are typically very good athletes in terms of their physical makeup Obviously is still a little bit on a thinner side. He doesn't have that bill. That a mctavish or still in girardi how. They already looked like professional hockey players. So i do think there's lingering stuff like that and you and then the skating app specifically with luke that the idea of his stating and the idea of what that skating can produce from the back end. I think people watch quinn. And they get really excited about luke and vice versa right. So it's i do think there's an minutes at their. We'll just don't tell me that. Scott morrow is brendan morrow son. I'm not ready. Said although villagers son is already making me feel pretty old. Yeah so if we're saying it's at a debate at the top five or let's say legit debate can of for that for that grouping then you know you get you get into the lottery group. Where does where does the next. Drop off feel in this draft. I think it's kind of thirteen fourteen. Fifteen for me. Kind of there's after that group of five that i talked about. There's there's another group of. I don't know eight to ten players that that kind of excite me And then after that you get into kind of that late first early second round where i think. There's a group of that's massive. Frankly that a lot of those guys are kind of interchangeable of if this guy gets picked in the late second in this gets picked him late first or they flip are not going to be to fuss about it so i think that's kind of where this draft is out. That next group is is really interesting. In terms of it has a goalie for the third straight year with yesterday wall stat. And we know that the teams that have picked gerald cyb askerov and spend tonight or certainly not complaining about that. So i think whilst stats a little bit of a wild card and then players like dillon. Gunther william couldn't simon had been seen so endure who. I mentioned chaz lucius. Who's a bit of a wild card and then not to route to who still. I think we'll be picked in the front half of this first round. Despite the fact that he's had now not one sort of week disappointing year but two years really after being outstanding as a sixteen year old. So it it's a little bit of a weird group. There's going. I think there will be some mrs in their area obviously with a goalie. There's always a risk there simon edvinsson. Who's at the top of that group for me is a very weird prospect in terms of what makes him good and also some of the things he struggles at so there's a lot going on in that group and then chad's i mean we haven't seen we've hardly seen him. He's been great since he returned six goals in six games and all of that. But i think coming into the year. He was clear favourite for the top ten because of all the time. He's missed. who knows all right. You're at the trade deadline. A team house include a second round. Pick in a trade in your acquiring the pick do do you want a second round pick in the twenty twenty one draft or the twenty twenty two draft twenty twenty two for sure next draft is i would say a At least early on. It looks like it could be significantly stronger than this year's draft Okay well and so it speaking an extra draft where you're at that time of year when you do your way too early. Look at the next draft. I think that comes out next week. So so general. You know in touch with corey but there seems to be some high end in the draft. That people really like what what. What's your assessment of the twenty twenty two draft will. It's really really good. It's first night. It's a major bounce back year after to kind of mediocre years for the national development program. It's a significant year for the national development program. It my early lists will be twenty two players. They won't be numbered. They won't be ranked. It'll just be sort of some early wheeler come on. Yeah it'll be video and but ten of those players are going to be the n. Tdp ten of twenty two. that's huge. That's a big deal for them. And a couple of those kids are are on the u eighteen team this year in terms of jack using jack divine and then the other eight of them are on the under seventeen team. That will become the under eighteen team next year. So it's a very very impressive group. Those guys are sort of right at the top and the interesting part is that none of those guys are probably going to be top. Three picks so despite the fact that there's ten at the top of next year's draft. You've still got shane right. Brad lambert and matthew. Savoy for me. Who i think look and most teams. I think would agree. Look like that kind of front runners for that top three I think savoy lambert are probably flip a coin with most games at this point but right is i mean special. He's he's we all know the name it by now in the fact that we know the name and it's not even his draft beer is speaks to just how great shane right is going to be. But that's the big three at the top and then it's very sort of td heavy and three players to made my sort of top twenty. Two that i mentioned but three players out of slovakia. It's very very very good group for slovakia. The first one in a long long time where they've got legitimate first talent coming through. So i'm really looking forward to watching those three kids and seeing whether slovakia can kind of put its name back on the map in terms of a spot to develop players. I'm always. I always love how this like. It's fascinating where they'll just be random crew from slovakia eight germany. You know right now. Seems to be pumping people out. Or even the americans right. Like they'll have draft for jack hughes in col- caufield turcott all go in the next year. It's you know there's nobody in the top ten or whatever it's yeah it's so fascinating to me. I wonder how why that is. Yeah it's a good question. i. I honestly don't know anybody has the answer like it's it just seems to be a cyclical nature of these things. Where things seem to pop up. I think the trend for the us has certainly been upward rather than sort of peaks and valleys but even with the us where the trend has been a constant upward. There's still does occasional deaths. I think last year's class outside of jake sanderson was really are a good example of that right. So it's it's been weird they would just wrote about this for the athletic. The americans would say it's the developmental model is starting to kick in. That's why you're starting to see the change. How they did it with the youth in this that. The coffee class Us whoever we want credit. That group was the first kind of graduates of it in the atm. In now we're starting to see pump out as Skill play smaller areas on the ice. And all that. It's it's interesting to see kind of play out as the hope it would. Yeah it's not just michigan in minnesota anymore. Either your rut record mcgrory. Who's the maybe the top of that. Those ten players that i hinted at for twenty twenty two. He's from nebraska. Right like it's it's starting to preska. Hasn't been brisk it's starting to come from different places. So i think that is a big deal for them that i mean. La is now producing regularly a couple of players on the tdp. That sort of california group of talented triple eight teams cranking out players so it really has changed that way. It used to be basically just the east coast in minnesota writes. Yeah it's good. It's good for it's good for everyone here. That's for sure. All right with the nhl and nba season in full swing baseball getting underway the ncaa tournament and the masters right around the corner. Also be heavy machine state in the ncaa. Tournament always the sports counter is officially heating up. And that means now is the perfect time to take your sports fan couch experience to the next level by getting in on the action yourself. The athletic has partnered with mgm. The king of sportsbooks to bring you the latest odds and exclusive offers to bring you closer to the game than ever subscribers of the athletic gets in-depth analysis from our newsroom plus insight into the latest betting trends and odds from bedroom. 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Most learn more at comcast dot com slash network. Hey i'm tasma of no dunks on the athletic. And i'm also a human which means i have been very stressed that times this past year and i find it hard to kick that pattern of anxiousness with the groundhog day situation. I'm in sometimes. I wondered was there. A pre pandemic were and. That's why i'm a fan of sunday. Scary scary are safe. Way to break out of our daily routines. They helped me concentrate by quieting my mind a little bit. Sunday scares are specially formulated. Cbd gumy's with vitamin d. three and b twelve. That are super consumable and easy to take on the go. I've used them when. I'm preparing for podcast or when my work day is done and i want something to help me decompress like when i'm watching season four of big mouth you know. I didn't even realize. I hadn't finished season three when i went to go watch season four. Who will story broke sunday. Scary has become a leading. Cbd brand for millennials last year. 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Date that i think warrants has just he so so good i am actually currently doing a story on his coach and general manager of the aba twins with rogue and yeah at the end of that conversation for that story. I kind of each for my own. Selfish reasons just honest. Honest thoughts about more insider. It's like they. They literally think this guy's going to be an trophy winner so he's he has really really impressed me this year. I thought he was really good. H last year played. Big minutes But this year with that team. He's just completely takes over on some shifts and i always i was actually a little bit critical of him being a little bit too deferential and a little bit to pass it out there with the puck and this year he just seems like he wants it he wants to be the guy. It's been a ton of fun to watch him play. So i still think raymond all things equal has more upside. I think raymond has a chance to be You're all star in the league can really a driver of offense in top power play quarterback in all of that and and then you get into the weeds about okay is the first line winger with an elite still sent better than a sort of easy number two or good number one defenseman. Who's maybe just shy of being in a week number one defensemen and people come on different sides of that coin. So i don't know that's it's a very good question. But i i still think if i had to rank them today's for example i would probably give a slight edge to lucas right. Same line of questioning. This last one was from brand. Smith from comes from ted geist who asked higher upside neal's lundquist or adam fox adam fox. We already know that adam. Fox's in excellent excellent borderline top perrin high end defenseman. I think that's what you hope that neal's becomes And i think noses already become not in sweden at a very young age which surprised me. He's another prospect. Frankly i missed them. Him and cider. I had both news guys kind of in the twenties when they probably in the top. Ten top fifteen so Both of those guys are really impressive. But i still think. I mean fox's fox already and nails you're hoping he becomes what fox's the threat that's her This question comes from joseph norac who asked Can you explain why there's a difference in your ratings versus where prospects get drafted for example. You had betty mietinen much higher than he actually went or even things like rossi and perfetti falling to nine or ten. So why in you kind of lose with the defenseman where cider when six you ever twentieth Can you explain the difference in your ratings versus where they get drafted. I think that's just the typical variants that you you would see from teams I i think people would be surprised. At how different the boards look. There isn't are outside of the navy's consensus top five or six players draft. Things really really do separate in huge huge ways with nhl teams in their draft boards. Team two team. And i think that's just reflected how difficult sports dili's to project in how difficult it is to understand what makes these players kicked in. What's going to make them tick at the nhl level versus at junior college or minor pro and that kind of thing So i honestly just think it comes down to that. It's just very very difficult. And then the other part is that i'm not. The goal for coronary is not to predict. Its offer our own. Take on where we think. These guys are at so I i think that's ultimately what it comes down to. And then the last part of that would probably be the the point. I needed the top. Which is that. I think people get a little too bogged down. The actual numbers Tied this conversation about ten student loan. I it's okay you had. Tim suits sixth or seventh on your board. He went third. Do you have regrets about that. Why was that etc etc. I think if you read the evaluations and that kind of thing you would have seen repeatedly that. I sent he uneasily case for a third overall. And i felt that him and cul perfetti and lucas raymond and others were just really close so i think part of it is that too. It's the difference between four on board and seven on a board. Isn't always at something that i would sort of fight to death on or hang my hat on it if someone across the table from me said. Hey i like this guy better than okay. Let's but pick that guy right like it's it's the balancing act. It's it's not easy. No no none of this This question comes from elias glenn Who asks opening it thoughts on matt bully thousand I love board. And i got very worried when matt boldy didn't look like map all the in the first half of last season and i was one of those people who was pretty aggressive about really believing in math oldie in his draft year. I think now he's starting to look. I mean he looks like in south right. He looks like the player you would have expected him to become part of his struggles early on last year. Were that he. I think he was playing in the wrong position. They had alex new hook on the wing and him at center and then when they switch them and they had New hook at center in him on the wing it just really clicked for both of them. And i think jerry york would be pretty upfront about that and in saint now that he thinks these more of a winger than center And he's been much better there and he's he's awesome. He's great along the wall. He's skilled for a guy who six foot three. I think he's going to be like a legitimate top six player for the wild right last one. This one comes from adam gallant. Who asked what is the nhl ceiling for. Jonathan is jonah. Tint is jonathan berger bergen another guy just loves fun to watch it. Oh my god. He's so fun to watch. I think a part of the reason. He fell on his draft beer beyond the injuries in on. All that is that he was perceived. I think is a perimeter player. I think perimeter player comes with a bad sort of negative connotation when we talk about these kids and i think there are plenty of perimeter players in the nhl who are fabulous top nine nhl forwards. They just do it from the outside instead of inside and they get the puck to the guys on the inside. And that's the kind of player that jonathan is. He's going to be a playmaker from the outside. In the guy who hangs onto the puck around the offensive zone and makes plays through feet in through sticks to set up his linemates. That's what he does. So i think he's proven that you can do that at the lower levels and now it's okay it's gonna take the right coach the right development and the right linemates to figure him out he. I don't think he's going to step into an nhl lineup and immediately be an impact. I no matter who he plays with the kind of player who's going to need to play with someone who can get to the slot in shoot the puck and he's going to need to play with a certain set of linemates to be his low successful but if he can find that right set to be a ton of fun to watch our we got one last one Under the bell. This comes from kenneth clark said last one but this one just popped in on into my thoughts on china cov basically ease the ease. The kid the Blue jackets took the big surprise of the twenty twenty draft since since the draft How's he been doing. yeah. I mean that was him. I would say muck madeleine. Were probably the two big surprises the first round last year. I don't know that of russia which isn't a surprise. Were typically surprise one way or another by either. How low how high kids seem to go. And it's difficult. All three of the nhl vh Katie chiller difficult to evaluate these players. In his how different their tracks are there and then he was an overage or on top of that so that really spice things up. You don't often see overages taken in the first round. So he's had a much better year than i thought he would. And i think he's better prospect than i thought he was. I kind of thought he was detained late round fire and he was interesting and he could really shoot the puck and play with protection and claimed possession quite well but i didn't really think he was great stater and i had questions about all sorts of parts of his game and i think this series just proven met. He's a legitimate prospect. And i still think that was. He was probably drafted a little bit too high but if he becomes a middlesex forward who can play on the second power play unit and give you forty forty five points in nhl season. That's still a good use of of sort of wait first round. pick so I i don't know he. He's an interesting case. Study for awesome. Lescot thanks for doing this again if you Sixty four check that out in the atlantic also coming next week the way too early. Look at twenty twenty twos draft. Sounds like it's going to be a good one. If you don't subscribe athletic goody athletic dot com slash full sixty. You can read all of scott's work for whatever the discount is getting whatever it is right now. Scott thank you so much for doing. This is fun. I want to gory and scott for joining. The podcasts. always loved the prospect series. I'd like they're so informative. Both of those guys I'm excited since we recorded a couple days ago the dues the draft would be in july officially is locked in so no back to backdraughts in the summer of twenty twenty two which may have been good for teams. Gm's i know some gm's wanted that not great for those of us who write about the draft and lake the buildup think corey in scott. They would have gone crazy writing. Rankings for the next year without a draft between. So that's that's some good news while being news right now as i record this the news of espn seven year deal with the nhl for the us tv. Rights is is breaking. And i've got to tell you as somebody who comes from. Espn i spent. How long was eddy. Spn seven or eight years As national writer for espn you. When they are invested in a property it becomes a game changer. in this is really good For hockey in the united states. And i say that some compete with the spn. We wanna beat greg in emily At what they're doing but in terms of growing the game of hockey in the united states. This is really good news. And i can tell like when i was at. Espn we had the rights to the world cup of hockey. Remember the great team. North america in the amount of resources. Espn poured into that in the television time and They sent us all over the world literally like we had joey mac in sweden and i was in quebec doing training camp for that like we. They poured money into that because it was their property and they were promoting the world cup of hockey because they wanted to do well And the fact that the us crapped out early in that tournament didn't help the cause for ratings. But i just got this glimpse of what it was like when espn is invested in hockey. And it's completely different. And i know people in the states. Are they kind of say. Espn doesn't care about hockey. And all those talking heads and debate shows never talk about hockey. I can tell you that's going to change Once they have that. Tv deal finalized once they're promoting the stanley cup final on a c. Of my guests. Something like emily kaplan is going to become a star even more so than she is already like. She is her wish. Are going to be regulars on those shows. It's really anticipate this being a huge deal for hockey in the united states in i think anything. That's good for hockey is good for all of us. Who work in the space in I'm looking forward to seeing what they're able to do with that. Sorry just got completely sidetrack but Speaking of media in big names in news two guys. Scott burnside in pierre lebrun also. Espn alums had bob. Mackenzie on the two man advantage this week so So much perspective in that conversation and anytime you can listen to bob. I would highly encourage you to do that. Also if you're not listening to the athletic hockey show when shown can do and mendez. Ailey are on it. You have to do that. Subscribe to that an apple. Podcast subscribe to the for sixty. I never podcast to make sure you're not missing any episodes and last but not least if you earn a subscriber to the athletic right now especially in trade deadline season. I would encourage you to go to the athletic dot com slash full sixty and you get in at three dollars and ninety nine cents per month. That's a great deal. 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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 206: Featuring Jake DeBrusk
"Everybody welcome to episode two hundred in six of spitting chickens presented by Pink Whitney the pink lemonade flavored vodka from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka. They also sponsor the National Hockey League in the League just started last night Wednesday opening night a couple games on tap. It's officially a season as as I have already lost my I bet of the I bet the Supernova over nine and a half plus five hundred Toronto auto at no dice but the throw is worth it. Let's say to the boys I produce mighty gee this season as yeah. What's up boys yeah? I'm ready to lose some money this year so I'm excited way. Fuck off. Stop Gambling. Save Your fucking money Audra now now degenerate. Ra worry about that stuff got me hooked ours brother Paul Biz Nasty Bissonnette. You must be pretty excited. The seasons finally hereafter layoff all some boys his I mean there's a few subjects already and that's what I love about hockey season. It's it's the job uprights itself. We don't fucking muster up any stories or or go back to the volt or you don't even have to hear my kill stories. I know half of you hate him so fucking can rights hockey's back and of course it's back is fucking awesome. Matthews gets twenty fucking goals on opening night again Sierra nine opening my goal so far four seasons for Matt The let's say a third member of the hosting Community Ryan Whitney the dogwoods going on by what what boys tonight very special evening automatic used to no surprise just domination. That was a fun game to watch Ara came somewhat close. I saw that ticket needed ten goals all seven with ten minutes to go. There were seven scored so you gave yourself a chance. I mean that's kind of where he'd love to be at if you're trying to hit a monster over like that I'm on over of of San Jose Vegas which starts any minute now so once on six and a half you're telling me you bet there too yeah but crazy odds dude. Oh what was the odds yes. The regular was six and a half what you could bet I would bet the normal over on running football game but I bet prop over nine and a half but you get but it was a plus five hundred zero very hundred you've put up five hundred battle wasn't the actual line right right yeah yeah it was a political prop bed all kinds of goofy exotic all kinds of goofy name slum show it had I won. I had what they have on a nickel so I would've all when he stood correct. That's such an aggressive bed out of the gate guy. You know it's GonNa be a great way to stop the five hundred dollars a pop then you know you go back and you ARA fucking. This man was trying to kind of build. A little bankroll are crazy man but you know like crazy. I liked your crazy. Thanks Bro but like the Wick said you're. You're kind of like in the catbird seat. It's like all right. Man is ten minutes love all three goals from these two teams who squads shitload the goals it. It didn't happen tonight but I don't regret the better all it was just jaw. Read it a little. Are we going to jump right into that game or we're gonNA save that for later Nancy. I'm going to say so obviously one of the storylines to Saturn plant in his first. NHL Game The fucking guy ends up pot and one on unreal away from from from Matthews Chirpin him talk about fucking the jam on the stones on Matthews though after fucking sovereign scores you gotta be we feel like Oh God you know what the storylines going to be if I don't fucking get one and he ends up scored one and they win. What does he do do new sniper from the Fuck Jason Fuck Inborn from the rafters dot right in the middle of forehead that fucking guy can shoot a puck? I mean now saying that. What a pass by Mitch Mitch Marnie? I've been saying that all summer they should have gained thirteen. I mean if shit gave him thirty. act passed told me and then a beautiful it was a saucer pass by kneeland right a little little little little. It'll be a little baby sauce baby sauce and what do you think of having eighty eight you like. I like it. I just think Lindros he looked so little with it right but he he has his hands are so dirty by the way matthews doing the old look at the name of the on the back of Sabir and the preseason he still at the end of the game like he was one of their goal scores. I don't know who scored for them. I had to I it still makes sense that he was like. Who are you buddy? Let's go. Have you seen me on opening day so that how do I say borough Whiskey Bar Vinci Yeah he's so he got interviewed about it and he's like Oh. I think you need to so no more and he was like a little butthurt by and I'm like man I love savvy was my teammates. I was joking around online when I when I told Matthews to show the respect to the depth players man like savvy was running around trying to injure guys in preseason trying to earn himself a job like he wasn't exactly being a saint so I mean he wasn't really respecting respecting the code. He was just trying to make fucking lineup because he was running guys like Riley and some other still guys so so fucking matthews clown big big fucking deal you give a little you take a little come on here. Can't you heard about that. I get the quote right here because I thought it was a little bit disrespectful to be honest when not all blessed Austin Austin mattress talent unfortunately but I truly wish I was some of us have to do it the hard way. I'm not sure Austin appreciates what it's like being a fighter down there. It's a role. He never had the play more of it's he said it's really tough. When you know you're going to fight double digits every and ride the bus round and get paid seventy grand but either way? I thought it was pretty cool. Sovereign three hundred H I'll games plus some east coast action is first game in the NHL Twenty seven years old. He gets talk man. I mean everybody's got appreciate. I am so happy for him and listen. I texted him after the game and he laughed about it too like what's more disrespectful trying to take the guy's head off or chirping him. I would say trying to take his fucking head off so to be but heard about that. It's just kind of ridiculous and he'd Sabbaruddin carry made a name for himself. He ends up making the lineup on. I don't know if I said this last episode told that his the coach and Ottawa was coached when they won the Memorial Cup when he was in Oshawa so I may be repeating myself but hey the we'd works also other big news was in Toronto. Jonathan Taveras the captain. You know I don't know people I'm sure they're gonNA speculate like crazy whether it was his all along whether events in the last week or so changed changed things but either way. He's the cat moving forward business you. Do you think that was the plan all along a Wa. I genuinely believe them. Listen if I'm not gonNA argue argue all day when I say the other way I'll say okay sure fair enough and I would say what do you think it's probably a fifty fifty split of whether people believe him but listen. I think the right person got it. That's not taking anything away from Matthews. I think that Matthews hasn't isn't juggled both right like he's into his new contract. He has to have a pop off type season and earn entries now getting paid whereas Taveras already done it. He's a very vanilla guy and that's not an insult at all. You know exactly what you're getting day in day out. He eats freeze and sleeps hockey hockey. That's it he's able to focus on. Both he's not overreactive. He kind of just seems like calm cool collected guy and he can juggle the two because he's done it already so I think the right guy got. It and I think that it's a little bit of pressure off of Matthew's they can just focus on his fucking game. Now I think think either one was it was a win win. I mean it makes total sense for both of you want your your young one of the best players in the game you're young Stud Matthews to take over the assistant or have what they ended up deciding with Varsity and the captain. I believe him too. I think that it was too old time why I mean if you're GONNA if you're gonNA strip a guy from being capped in the planned on you know just naming a couple days later and then that was the report that caused you not to I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't agree with that. I don't understand how that would would've made them change their mind so I I think that this this was the plan and busy set it well. He's done it before so let's have somebody that was a captain with the islanders and knows what it's all about the a guy who knows maybe in six years it's Austin Matthews and I mean pre primary like Oh my God we're already hearing about the leafs and they're getting the whole front front of the a show but the drama writes itself. I mean not only has all that happened now. We gotta talk about the Jason Specimen healthy scratched in his first game back home as May belief against his former team and babcock is in the scratch now. I guess I'll open up to you I yeah I know there was some belief so it's controversy but I know Anthony Stewart talked about it earlier in camp with looked like bad caucus kind of like making an example apple out of him. I don't like he wasn't later anything. I think he's just old them probably couldn't keep up in practice babcock kind of made it a point to like you know call him out in the press and I remember Stewart was saying like come on man this guy's been around that he could have signed it three or four the places in and he's you know he came to Toronto to try to win here and you Kinda like berate and the guy who's given an honest effort so oh. I don't know I mean I is that babcock just being babcock probably but at the same time Spitz's dirt what thirty six he's clearly lost step. He's probably going to be looking at that. You know La will a bottom six probably the bottom three basically scratch here and they'll show. I suppose it was inevitable because he was gonNA get scratched. I guess it just the fact that was the first game may be gadget. People off God ah okay before I throw it over to you I so I had a maybe a different theory coming in but after hearing that you said he's been kind of berating Amal Camp I thought for a crazy reason that babcock was essentially going to take the heat for doing that but he was doing it to. Maybe take the focus off the other things that are going join on Aka the Matthew Situation I thought he was trying to create a distraction to take everybody's focus off of that because that's a plot to handle for a young guy who's coming into now big boy contract where the fuck and pressures on and sure enough all the attention focus shifts something else Matthews's Zabel step in a game one in fucking Tuck to now. Some people might a like. I Know Jeff Jeff O'Neill. TSN Awesome one of the best of the Biz he was fucking irate. I'm sure most of you have read. My Commodore Stotts on things. I don't know if you have that tweet teed up. Ra but I'm I'm I'm a China play. Devil's advocate not necessarily give babcock benefit of the doubt. I'd imagine that all those guys who were irate they fucking even considering giving him benefited Anthony. I have that Commodore tweet if you want it. He says read it before he's off. He said folks pezzo is a very well respected longtime. NHL Veteran he signed with his hometown team has a good camp playing lease opener against his former team is a big deal for him. Babcock scratches spas is a textbook scumbag move from the biggest fraud in the game so I mean I think we knew what he was going to think about it. I mean fuck. Maybe that was babcock even on my commodore. I'll say if I do this and fucking do it. But what do you think like what's your thoughts on all of this babcock. Does it give a shit. He doesn't give a fuck. He's GonNa do whatever he wants to do and I think that him scratching Spencer the first game of the year pretty much is him saying. I don't see you playing an important role for us this season. He's GonNa get you think he's GonNa get Commodore. I'm not saying he's GonNa get Commodore but scratched in the first game of the year like the coach at that point. I mean you're put note your wagon that first game here. This is it's swelled. Hold on. This is the best team that this is the team that gives us. The best chance to win and Babcock's is so he's like well I. He said he he said to the media. Yeah I want him to get a few more reps on the PK and practice now wit saying that their first two goals tonight scored by the bottom six so the wrong decision. I'm just saying that he sitting there saying like fuck says I don't. I think he's really gonNA matter this year. I how else did you take the e Sam at this guy's not this guy's not fast enough for a a- able to okay so that that's that's you're not gonNA play a big role for us this year right. You're slow and you'RE GONNA get in a couple of games here and there but I'm just saying that that might it might be what he's thinking. I'm not saying that special slow. I'm just you got to think that Babcock just doesn't see him right and I agree with you does the same coach who had a player play like look at the ice and say take it all in because you never gonna see it again like I mean so you know him. Scratch and Spencer probably not not that big of a deal to him concern wit my I mean mine and yours mentality would probably be like listen. This guy's well respected he came in. I'm going to try to build him up as much as possible for him to have the confidence in order to sustain that role where babcock is mindset is kind of like I'm GonNa break you this fucking weird. If a diehard I heard leaf's fan could tell me a wouldn't ear what you're talking about. They went out and had a great game and they want yeah but here so he could have done it. Specifies a veteran who everyone loves I literally teammates love the Guy He's the best yeah he's he's not. He wasn't the quickest gator when he was a dominant player. Let alone now but BABS could've said you know what I'm GonNa. START START EM off. I'm going to give them a chance. Whatever maybe third nine maybe it's the fourth on I'm going to start him off and if he fails at least I gave him the shot now? He's just like you're fucked. I didn't like what I saw. I said the game anymore. He didn't even consider building them up and camp whereas like hey at least you can see if he failed yeah if he it just immediately but in the end the leafs are equipped team. That's how they WANNA play. That's Cox made and once again. Ra going back to the new knowledge and I just heard when you when you mentioned that he'd kind of been doing it all camp so my theory kind of gets thrown out the window of Oh shit. I need a distraction here and we're going to bite the bullet. Maybe even together maybe even spasm would have been in on it but no that's not the window so I'm a fucking idiot so that will wrap leafs lunch from this episode. No actually we do have a last division preview coming up a little bit the Atlantic Division in to represent the Atlanta visually Boston Bruin Jake debrusk. I know some the the youngest is an elite tend to be a little bit reserved. We had no such issue with Mrs debrusk highly entertaining it to view. I think everybody's going to like it with your beast not but that's coming later also on opening night the blues raised their been they had got their rings is as well as a thought. It was pretty sweet how they all had larry flowers posing with the cup on the side of the ring that was pretty cool to to to acknowledge Larry Yeah no it was really nice. I mean you know he did bring him to the bar that changed the entire dynamic of their season so yeah Larry Larry's actually going to have a statue built. When's the Game November twenty second anyway? It's it's GonNa be in one day in November. Begin a nice things. We talked about this before but the Stanley Cup ring that the boys delivered to Leyla guys while old old just when you thought just when you thought okay I've I've cried enough. There's really no more tear. Jerking moments and cow is one of the best videos videos I've ever seen in my life and it just the fact that they got like the ring and then her name in the ring. It's just it was such a cool thing the Blues Class Act Organization. It was a special night to watching those guys arm in arm on the banner goes up. I mean that nights almost it's cool because that night I it. It just seems like it's all over but this one final thing in after this like it's completely we're we're we're on even playing field with everyone else but one last is little hug. Watch this thing go up then game on. I couldn't agree more. It was the perfect ball on it and some people might be off enough with these guys parading around that no you and get it to the fucking season starts. I love how they they had the little ceremony beforehand. O'Reilly comes out with the the conn smythe. It's just you know put a bow oh on it for them and it was kind of cool because they did it with Washington and the building so Washington probably like hey we did this. You are swimming. Fountains counts doesn't sauces crossing sources. They give me my pepsi. Let's go I want more goals. They're also the blues watching the game right now. They're just like made up of so many guys who don't get a ton of credit and they're so good and I'm Bobby Orr to`sell has walked seventeen ovechkin one timers in this game so far just on the ladies keys call some Doa Ovechkin the nine hundred ninety seven mile an hour one time zone eating them so he's just a guy that reminds me of why they got to do that last year and he was a huge part of it even though he's kind of a minor player for them it's all everyone added in a great game right now. It's two two in the third but he's got one already. Ari Shock Guy could have three. He was like a war he was at like a dead standstill and it was like a positive circles it was his feet it also boom and then the goal moved when when did even get that fucking thing off now O'Reilly right back to work to apple's tonight gets the gets gets them started this guy even sean avery stroke off and his instagram story tonight. There's Canada bike figuratively probably not literally in the bike lane. Good O'Reilly ended up like riding a bike in the bike Lang Avery I just find it's like I love this guy dead to me now. Cam a video was was great. Go just going back to the Layla video was Alex Stein and Colton break who who who delivered it and she had no idea in that Kim in like she lights up the room but you really you could tell she genuinely appreciates like she generally moved by what they've done for all absolutely definitely attention the fields. What are we going to say? Oh nothing I was just kind of dialed in the you guys talking about this. I mean I've seen the videos great email. I was fucking crime and Shit Yeah. We've we've sent that out on our social media channels be shot. It's why I said I said like I cried enough over the sound like she's got to stop making me cry. I'm not even at a high altitude and it's happening coming but the blues man they look good that faulk was a great addition for them Petra Angelo at a complete snipe tonight I we could have a monster offensive year. They're they're great and that Sammy is Blah. Blaze plays like blaze Pizza Peron Peron Farrand gets in the goals like really really quick into the game to go up one nothing Peron continues to just chug along in the NHL as an offensive fifty to sixty point guys sick hands ends this sauce perfect right over the defender's stick lands on Blah Blah stick perfectly buries it so that guy along with like Thomas we talked about in the central preview but the blues are here to stay. They're GONNA be last. Year's first-half seem so long ago. I think this year they're going to be solid all season. Yeah we got Joe Vitale coming up to we talked to him while we were down New York the radio guy that we got we had him on what last Stanley Cup right he predicted the sweet for the blues in between Games. You'll laugh. Do we mention that he's one of our most listened to if not the most listened to episode of all time on it and check. Let's say that last week we you told them okay we. We still works okay cool. What are we going next turtle? Oh actually little captain news. Update your Biz on Sunday Rod. The Bud brindamour announced that Jordan Staal is the new Captain Carolina the thirty one year old shut bounce center is going into his eight season. Raleigh takes over the sea after if the Justin Williams last added Jordan was actually co Cabinet Company as Adjustment Foxworthy a in his other six seasons there he's also fallen as brothers Eric Footsteps and wearing the C. for the erstwhile Hartford whalers Jordan Minute End Jacob Slaven will serve as alternate captains Norio surprise here which dog at USC. I see down in Raleigh. No makes total sense. He he busy remember his rookie year a he. He was like a veteran when he was eighteen he I think just having a couple Florida brothers that played in the Nhl how he was a man too he was. He's a beast third line saw him yeah he was. He was like two thirty when he was eighteen. I think just they've ever used to wear Abercrombie and Fitch shirts all time though he how he might even have known he didn't even know I know Thunder Bay's Abercrombie and Anthony Junior from thunder bay rushing like I was wearing labral. He's got that the seashell neck Assan with the with the fierce Cologne learn that that outfit that was already all just deposed so no he he has been the ultimate professional from day okay one. It's just come in. It's worked on. It's always working out before and after quiet guy I mean I think once you become friends with them. He's hilarious but he's just overall. We're all pretty quiet person and I think that he knows what it takes to win. He does it every day. He's pretty much the perfect decision for them to make captain. All I agree. He was like a grown. That's all I'm saying. It was like a grown mommy I came in eighteen old. Man's strength Lake played two years of junior and then boom right to the show but I just I guess you're right. He was eighteen. He was wearing Abercrombie. It's not that out of the ordinary but but I think even a few years later he was. I should probably have more to say about them than just the fact that he were Abercrombie. Yes I agree. He's a great great captain. I'm very happy for him and I'll never forget that meal that we remember we ate at what was that unreal sushi place in Pittsburgh Omi ooh and he ended up. I lost the credit card game. He ended up fucking picking it up anyways so of Konkan love Jordan Place some other news is well Avandia Kane gene who made headlines Joey this summer with his incredible ass on the ESPN body issued. Did you see his ASS Biz. The peach emoji comes to life all Jesus I I mean are you are GonNa get absolutely torched online for that common not really because I just ignore them when you get obsessed by them no but I'd seriously like his you never get rattled. I honestly dude after twelve years of man I mean mighty. I mean you take criticism but I don't. I don't live and die by why why do you keep Chirp without stroking rattled by me about shit is a rattles me. The anyways advantage gained yeah. He's going to start the new season watching the first three games. These San Jose Snipe was hit with a three game suspension for quote. Oh physical abuse of official I e caught kill. Murchison Wacked Daryl England with distinct on across Jack and the stripes was a little collateral damage damage but then when he wanted to get an England again shove murchison. That's definitely a no no he can't appeal it at but he stands to lose about about thirteen in a Golden Knights in San Jose Sharks. I know when when these teams. WWe Now eighty people were thinking about those to his rivals but shocks and nights at one of the best rivalries in the game right now busy it is it is fucking wwe. We got guys chirpy. Each Other in media revoked him a him and Kane Boys Allot. No the eight eight genuinely hate each other. This isn't a joke man. Wow Yeah that's I'm surprised you to know that no no I wasn't sure because when he tripped and he said Oh he's week he gets taken down by Aref. He's gotta hit us. That's why I keep the audience. Mike you play the audio right now. There we go the reaction came suspended and that he will try poor vendor for Vander so tragic I wish he he was on ice on ice legitimacy to what he said about tree no they don't really know for. I don't know I don't understand why you would say that. I think just the way to wrap things up ended up taking down like he was victimized. Yeah well yeah. He's he's weak down by rough Pathans now and yeah I mean when he says that he's he's kind of smiling but but at the same time like you said it's like the WWF visits I it's hype Shit Up. I'm here for man I love it. I love this stuff. Where where do you got Avenger can get tackled by a fucking linesmen? I mean like they were so him in England or going back and forth and what what happened was when Keynes slashed angle I think he might have caught the linesmen ma positive but he might have kind of hit the lines and when he went to slash at a at a at England and then next thing you know the going at each other and Kane pretty much tackled by the linesman I mean usually you you'd let them go at it and if something happens then they get in it it was just it was odd. He pretty much fell over because of the linesmen then gets up and you can't you can't touch or aligning but he's like what the fuck is happening. Get off me why I'm on the ice because he you know there's not even anyone on the other team that just knocked me over so three games I mean I wondering if if you will appeal it has he said if you will sorry. Mr. said that they they haven't said whether he was or wasn't by the time. He said he's not appealing okay so he knows. You can't touch ref even if they're doing something that I deem to be a little ridiculous. I don't know did you watch it and think that lie linesman it was like in the right I think nowadays those lines are instructed to go into break. Everything up where it's like. It's still a man's game. Get the fuck out of the way yes there England Vander McCain of anarchy in fights. He's fought real over for like those are two big boys. They can figure it out on their own and I know this guy you know he's probably just trying to do his job aw in the NHL might be saying getting the right away. Tell them shut the fuck up so man's fucking game. Let the boys play so he gets in there. He gets tangled up. I mean hey listen. I've been suspended for ten games when when I believe the NHL was wrong and I thought does not a big deal and they reduced it the three so that's what they always do if you get if you get a Tan which are like a Fox lawn looks bad on us a little bit. Let's just give them three and you walk away. I didn't WANNA appeal it because there was a chance that would've lost and that it would would back up to you know so much money I went from losing seventy grand to I think eleven seven or thirteen I forget the exact number so huge. What what do you mean? That's a down payment on a house. I mean ones that I was living in back then. Maybe not you you fucking rich packer had anyway but listen shitty situation. I would recommend the linesmen even though he's probably just doing his book and draw. Get the fuck out of the way now. The worst part about it is the now the best rivalry in sports in preseason in Vegas sold out a barn. They are chanting Vander Canes Sucks or whatever in preseason so we have ourselves a hockey town okay. I don't think anybody gets that it turns for preseason not even maple leaf country because there's all suits in the crowd anyway not Jabber leafs nation because I don't want you guys hounding me tomorrow well the but it now now that canes over three games. It's a home and home to start the season against them. Ra like come on here in Vegas I mean so you know obviously they had tremendous success out of the gate but they were top ten in there fucking ratings last year the team good bounce in the first round so yeah they're they're no doubt about hockey town and a quick note on on of indicate descent over the texts Bob McKenzie this comes as no surprise but worth mentioning nonetheless indicate not expected to appeal as auto three-game game abusive officials suspension he appealed would have gone to Gary Bettman who can uphold rescinded decrease. He probably figures luck man. I whether I meant they're not the the lion was probably I'll be a little too aggressive but optimize put his hands on him and fucking it. It's not even worth but the thing is though is I lost eleven grand and I know it's all relative to what you're making thing. How much did he lose? What's going on thirteen? I think that's a fucking mets and car Porsche keats glove compartment. It could get a couple year old. What's the other one fuck nine eleven or something? I don't know you might find sales do turbos in Davos average smell. You and I could never see you porat base. Oh my dream car yeah Porsche Targa take a driving car. I want to drive now. I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee nice to I'm as basic as you get but I don't care about vehicles. If I have I would have to be worth a lot to spend that much on a car. I'm a GRANDPA with my own alright yeah. It was that movie he said. I didn't know you might find insist to turbo nine months. Now that's Hashtag. Ask them all any of that's heat starring Robert De Niro Al Pacino love that movie and I don't that's from. I love that movie member when they member tone Lok was one of this niches and they were trying to get some information. He was gonNA with stone guys. You might find to say it again. I wanted to hear we're going off the rails a little bit and I said that I mean that's my dream car within reason I don't think I ever spend and more than that unless somehow I won the how much is a brand new porsche targa which hold their value extremely well too. I think there are one hundred fifty snaps. who fought do you could faulk? Go buy one of those you kidding me. Listen a what what's your dream car. I not that much of a car the guy just just by whatever so cool right but like if somebody said you could have really not that much of a car guy when and you had the sickest Range Rover Yeah saying I buy a nice car whatever's Nice I'm buying but I I would have an estimate. I don't care you you know I never get it for our actions now that I used to have the cloud remember that White Benz I was sick on S. five fifty cloud six six hundred the white one Niccolo and ever since I've gone up in the car like now that I'm high I I'll never go down back. Oh Oh yeah because I used to have a I think I need to be above the traffic like dominating people on the Highway I agree I've had to one fifties. I just was like I was sick spending the money on gas. I'm trying to be a little bit more environmentally friendly. You asshole Maura. What's your dream car? I have a man Qasr would never my thing I was like fucking pissed begins in my wall when I was like ten but as far as like Adrian had a picture of a girl in like a soap Burkini on a Lamborghini I I know the the Cosa thought that actually Christie Brinkley was my very first like cheesecake Posta. Ah If you ever win the lottery you should buy one of those Lamborghini coon Tauch is that they have in the movie Wolf of Wall Street just the cocaine white one. CRM Ra could win a billion and instead of buying a couple of mansions is he just buys the Boston like Public Transit Authority. It's a lifetime pass to me because just the functional all things is on the railway lifestyle was never a big guy. He was like fucking pacman yellow fuck and Ford Ford escort no radio and I was so we also where they put the colon speak in the desert palm springs long unknown as a place for swimming sit stops to dry out and the location of one of Frank Sinatra's. Many many stabbing cabins officially gets an aide. Lt Minute will serve serve as the primary farm team the Seattle which McCullough it's like I said is that was a big Frank Sinatra spot so maybe some kills is still in the air for the new team down yeah yeah genius move. I mean it's it's more of a snowbird type of place and and I would say it's the average olds right yeah. It's older. I would say the average age just probably fifty it. Might maybe a little bit lower. I'm not exactly sure but yes. It's a lot of it's an older community. There's nothing there to do. I mean there's they have have a crazy raceway for all the rich ones they have like a spots on it. I mean of course coachella music festival but they're not doing that all year round. This is perfect and this growing the game in that area it means closer travel for the other teams and they don't have to keep playing the same teams over and over because now that adds adds another team to that division. I think it's incredible. I'm kind of jealous. I wish I owned a team there because I think that they're going to be able to sell it every night. It's the hottest ticket in town now. All of a sudden and people who live there have the money to go to an age game the need entertainment. They're probably starving for it. It's it's the perfect spot it is. There's so many Canadians. It's those guys are so those guys are so lucky we were in Wilkes Barre Wilkes Barre. It was pretty solid H. L. Town guys are palm springs now the only thing that'll be tough as the the the travel motherfucker form 'cause you're not traveling private so you're flying but you're like Middle C. Stopovers to get the Iowa and shit like that but still when you're home you're living in heaven. Well Yeah Yeah but the divisions bigger so you're not really playing that many games out east. You don't play every team east when you're when you're in the NHL you switch off. I think on conferences basie from a year to year so like you might have you might have one trip in Chicago where you played Rockford Iowa and do that loop but it's it's not that bats that's because now you got Ontario rain right there. I mean you're GONNA come couple. Teams one in San Diego. You got a couple up. North Division did not bad at all. No No. It's not that bad so you kind of created their own little section out here where it's going to help for travel and and and all these teams are going to be closer to their farm teams. Where's where's Phoenix's to song? That's not far either. That's how fucking sick division man and these kids are going to be traveling awesome towns and and travelling to the doctor to get like Z packs. Oh Yeah just rushing. Everybody's Indian passed around. Everybody's Fuck Rodney Biz member. I think you were still playing for Ontario rain when we first had had you for a guest and I didn't care and I thought on -Tario I thought it was in California. I mean I I'm sitting there. You said that I remember that clear as day. I'm like dude. It's in California. My parents were like in the dummy on this coming Home Paul. I'll make it a pregame meal. I just don't want to cut you jerk enough anymore again. I about seventy nine a little more news in the desert is and your necklace waiting on your paper out and putting it back in the hamper SIC Arizona Goalie Doc- Kemp assigned to year nine million dollar extension with the yogurts four and a half million by av the injury to anti ramp that was unfortunate but it really gave kept an opportunity last year he made the most of it finished at twenty two nine and six got himself a nice little deal business he the number one going forward a human right. They're going to battle it. What's the deal there while rand does day to day right now so they had to recall aiden hill? Unfortunately I mean Fuck Rhonda just I I mean he's having a hard time staying healthy no he's. He's came in every season where something's been bugging him so I hope you can get back to health. I don't think it's anything serious so so best of luck to him because if you know the best ability is availability yes and I agree Darcy Camper has been that and he was one of the best if not not not the best goal in the second half of the season last year this team a plays very good in front of them. They're very comfortable with him. In that and vice ice versa on in in in you got credit the back end to with coyotes they do a great job getting shot lands and they blocked a lot of shots but darcy camper in the second half of last season put on a show. There was some nights where you'd have like forty five fifty saves so it's always nice having both congratulations on the extension I actually saw his parents when I was in saskatoon dropping the puck the end up going to the blades game so unbelievable people comes from a wonderful family couldn't be happier for him and he's going to be and weapon moving force or the odes nice good for them nice little sign and get out of the way we do have a retirement announcement to make to make thirty six year old at least Stepney Jack announced his retirement from the NHL Tuesday a fifth round pick in the Oh three draft stemp knack was reliable veteran coaches. He's well liked amongst his his teammates. He bounced around quite a bit but he shoot up ten teams spread out over fourteen seasons total nine hundred and eleven games what you racked up four hundred sixty nine points so congrats to Lee and retirement Biz with one you guys play with him. I know he was well traveled. Yeah I played with them. Do you play with them what I never play with them but in the summer he'd be in Boston so I skate skate with him in the Summers Great Guy Great Guy yeah dry humor very safe. Ben Lovejoy a little bit. I think they actually went to the same college but in the ultimate professional eight extremely healthy he was at whole foods every goddamn day hydrate used to drink like twenty balls ause water on the plane didn't drink a lot of alcohol studied the game. Just I'm so happy for him that he was able to extend his career because there was a few times it's like he couldn't when he was on Pto and then you'd have signing and then you'd have like fucking fifteen twenty goals and then he couldn't get a deal the next summer and you're like who the fuck assign in the sky and then it happened a few times so so he ended up carving out just over nine hundred games. Would you say nine twelve nine hundred eleven nine hundred and eleven games and I tell you what there's another guy for. Tires is a little bit early so no one's going to have to buy themselves on fucking selfish so congratulations to a wonderful career now. I was also gonNA propose this with now that it had some guys retiring in the nine hundred range right. I think it's only fair that we introduce them with a spitting checklists team guy stick. You know maybe we can get it embroidered. We're going to get would because we can't afford silver or we're GONNA presented to them if they retire within eighty two game period of their one thousand so they were if they retire in that period we present them with the spitting check. Let's thank you for not having to make your teammates. Buy You a nice present when you hit a thousand games deck. That's very nice. You've who's paying for it. I will get it sponsored shit dog at least knickknack too. I think Dartmouth was the one of the only schools to show interest in them. I'm pretty sure he told me that once and and if you if you think about what he's he's you know what kind of career he made after four years at Dartmouth majoring economics just it's just an incredible run so I'm very happy for that guy. He was very dry sense of humor Biz. That's true but he always cracked me up was fun to be around the summer work this bag. I think he would be great on here and he would rip into me yeah he would he would always Turkey and the law reminds me a Scuds yes and the thing about him. He's too smart for me right so he would say something and then like two minutes later. I'd be in the stick room like working. We're GONNA get it and I'd be like Hey talker. I would be buzzing around the room looking for you like step the accent we two weeks ago. I just realized what he meant. That's bullshit and they were no. He's been traded tips like Biz. I gotTA worry about the power play like I just can't be dealing with this. I I should send it over to Jacob Rusk right about now. I enjoyed our chat with this young budding star. What is your take on this interview interview? Let's bring on Spiderman. This interview is brought to you by Peleton. Why does men's health call? The PELETON bike the best cardio machine on the planet. Let's break it down. We can work up a great sweated home for less than the cost of a studio class first off the size people love that it's a nice a nice ice contact for by to the Pelivan bike can fit virtually any space new home. No matter how small the value is unreal because you get one subscription. Joy Need to get unlimited classes for the entire family no commute no reservations. 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NHL Season with the Boston bruins issue also a contract you welcome to the show Jacob Rusk. Thanks Boise Anything job absolute pleasure to have you on here Jake and before we really get into things there's been a lot of bruins teammates years coming on here. Just basically shit talk I I I see I see Mike. You says listen. We gotta have the boss gone. He has to defend his name defend his honor. I mean these guys were coming at you for no good reason I like. I don't know what's going on like it's obviously chick peas back home. So that's how I use the year ahead yeah the boys love to me on this show but don't really treat me too much update. I'm here Clermont name which is which is a little weird because I've heard that you're also the gesture in the locker you kind of run the show in there and keep everyone entertained before practices before games after games this. Is that the case attack you said that was show that was that was a big one for me. I don't really run the room. I probably see more of Glue gu-guy down branding itself Reclaim Glue Guy Love is a tree the DJ No Tori is I tried to. Dj I think once we got smoked so I lost his duties pretty quick for years the DJ but I talked to him a little bit thoughts thoughts on his music music selection well he took out the country so I mean I don't mind country but you took it out completely and that was a big win for us. overall okay probably like I'm getting seven then like I mean that's probably I'd say yeah. He's all right so you're not a big country guy being from Edmonton Alberta no I I heard a lot when it played swift in junior and I just wanted to get out of there. I love it was awesome but country music ever be every morning and stuff. I just somebody's not not my swift current broncos screams country you do it. If you hear conscious music after playing for the swift current Broncos you start twitching. We got both kinds of country and western so all right so another thing that was brought up about your game which I love I think I think the fans love it. Too is the celebrations the excitement for scoring every goal where you got teammates chirpy that you sell it too hard. I mean I feel like you're never gonNA stop at scoring a goal in the NHL. Why wouldn't you be fired up? Yeah exactly you guys know she death. This doesn't know from this fall when they came no but he's always the best part about hockey. I feel like any time it's their popcorn and that you know first off surprise then. I just kind of out of it think it's I think I think it's a good part of the game for for the oceans and like you said about the fans love it but I I got some bad reviews lingerie celebrate in China against Calgary in preseason game the world is something okay. Here's the thing I probably won't. I saw that and I remember thinking like Oh. It gets a little aggressive with preseason. We're over in the Far East but it's always nice to get that first one. It's a little bit of panic. Even if it's like let me just get a goal and then I'll feel the weight off my off my shoulders I could tell you I wanna get one one past the goal line. I'll feel a little better after that. I was actually my second of the game but even worse to be trying to help you accolade. What are you doing and this is the kind of you on it also was in the bathroom for both thirty minutes? They just lose my mind. I had a little bit of some Sushi or something like that before the game and it went right through me and then my first ship that came back there I scored because it's like went to hell and then I just buried one so it was kind of Nice but but you ain't sought the playboy's not play. How was that experience over there I mean you? You went over over there for preseason so I imagine you guys got to have a little bit of fun and owner trying to grow the game but what are some things that you got to do that. You never thought you would yeah. I mean it was alright. Travel itself is a little bit suspect like anytime we had to go from the hotel. Take the rinker pretty much airport is always a soup like it was probably about an hour and a half drive at least two hours. It's wasn't too crazy but gave us a good amount of time to bond. I mean Martian was Marcia is with us so he was pretty much lead the way lead the pace and not aspects especially for the younger guys our there. Are you know you're uncomfortable during training camp and everyone's on their toes into kind of relaxing place of hockey it was it was fun but it probably the thing that was seeing the Great Wall. I never thought to be able to do that and I want to get a pitcher for the INSTA- game and past like like this guy man he he knows heights and wanted to go on top because these towers kind of a long long way of the Great Wall and you've pretty much like peer. You're pressured me into jumping up getting like held up go on this thing and it was like Super Wendy and stuff but we got the picture so it was all good but that's probably the thing you got was most interesting for sure. Is it impressive in person I mean obviously I'd never been there but it's what's it like forty or fifty miles long some they built like what eight hundred years ago is that crazy to look Adam person. Yeah Nazi work out to the task massage parlor game bikes back. It's pretty much like we're bag. I was banned. At least I was like by the end of this so long view it's pretty special and it's amazing but definitely a workout. Do Not WanNa have Chara Properties data for your pre-game escape. He's I'll meet you at the rink. After hold on is it no actually can. I get some a weight vest for this walk. Jake I know the beginning of the summer sucked will get a little later and all the rest of it go to join a traveling only fancy places. I know a lot of guys like to get out of dodge for a bit to be honest. I was pretty lucky this year I mean it was such a such a fast dumber that I they really have too much time to do that. Stuff by pretty much back home with his family and friends and Kinda hung out the boys back again to the love. This just had to do that but you know just kind of chilled out. I came actually back down to Boston here for about a week and saw stories lone sailor she was just born so wanted to meet her and also come back you you know such so nature compared to end it is nice to come back and it's pretty much all I did after going on a run like that I think we would have another boss I on but just like experience of of going all that way out with just coming up short. How long did it take you to get over it? I still I still haven't to the onset yeah. It's pretty much impossible. I mean you try to especially at the beginning of the summer. Just get your mind off of everything to do with hockey. I mean it's a tough swallow. You get that close also your through all those ups and downs and emotions throughout the run and it was a crazy run that we had and for 'em like that I mean it's the toughest thing that I've had to go through and you know it's tough to know that you know the guys so much and you know pretty much you brothers that you go to go to war with. They're doing the same thing but you know you just try to eliminate as much responsible and against using motivation that's probably the best we can go about it and accused cop on the ice. It gives you the perspective about hockey. I actually always you have heard guys say game seven loss at you really do you never do get over it so that makes sense. You're saying that I apologize if I don't remember but were you battling injuries and how impressive was it to see your you know your best buddies. Your teammates in what guys are actually playing through when you get that late in the year. It's crazy. personally I mean came to. I think pretty much says it all and I was a little funky but the yeah definitely caught me a bit and no it's top. You're playing every second night right and it's a grind but still enough to play. Obviously I'm not gonNA have too much tried to do that but you know seeing guys go through sacrifices whether it's even Z. I think the most violated one 'cause he broke his jaw and he was he had to wear a different home and stuff like that but even the guys don't really hear about the the needles and things guys do just. Let's get prepared for game. It's it's it's a war zone out there and as a fan watching you you always wonder if someone's hurt or something's going on and usually the cases when it gets down to the wire everybody's hurt. I don't know if anybody was healthy to be honest with you on on both sides probably because it's just that's just how fast and tends to games are. Jake said You'd never get over it like business dashed. But how long does it take to get back into a normal rhythm routine where it's not like the dominant thought and you head all day we can just kinda like Sorta Kinda go on living again a little bit. I guess yeah I mean that that's that's different time. It Time heals everything I asked Spence but you know you just try to like you said how think about it. All the time took took a couple of nights the boys back home that really helped me not aspect but you know it's still pops up here and there but the good thing I guess about the short summer is surrogate for the season and we're right back so many things so that's at least good about I will switch over to the more positive playoff. Talk the year before you rookie season it. Was You playoff off debut and it's something that I mean I'm bruins fan something. We're always going to remember no matter what happens for for the rest of the time you scored that huge game seven goal you took the big hit from God and then you put like talk about sallies that was a good one you pulled on the spoke. PD when he did the fly by the bench places going nuts is that one of those moments up plays typo black out in the moment like what's going on in that moment you blacked out. You're thinking Holy Shit is clear about what's going through your head at a moment like that. a lot to be honest so I guess I don't know I I think I bought go to like I was initially shocked. I've just a little play I guess but definitely going to the bench and stuff. I was fired up. I just wanted to get back on the ice and try to scored another one or help the team in a way and you know it's obviously something that I remember the rest of my life and I want to do something like that again. It was it was a lot of fun to be part of that one. One of the playoffs Schiffer's tampering game one you got bundled eight's Robert could barely stand you make the dive and poke checked clear the puck. Everyone's just kind of watch you know what would like. What are you telling yourself to get through that situation in pain you just like like how do you get through a situation like that to do what you did because it was pretty incredible? He doesn't even know these Arabs. I remember in the Gulf shots. The brush shifts remembers every fucking shift your career search then mind I think he just got a full Senate at that point. I just really don't but I feel like it just when you're going through I guess the Shit you just gotTa get through it. Somehow and I actually turned the PUCK Tuck over. I think anyways I remember correctly. That's why dove to get it out as I gave reading the headman so I was making some bad plays by obviously it was a little bit banged ain't got those shifts but was that one okay you said full send at imagine. You're you're good. are fans of the nelken boys yeah is is that is that the reference and I know that we've heard from a few guys from your team. They said you're funny because you have that you're like the ultimate junior hockey guy or your beauty and all coil Roy. Do you watch all these funny clips that those boys do online. Oh I di- I love that stuff. That's agree up my alley. They don't care at all. What's going on? Get arrested probably like four different times so if they ever asked you to to jump on board for one of those videos would you would you agree to do it or maybe not in a contract contractor. Oh we don't see that we got this e. That'd be that'd be dobutful then so I might need to have some time for those of you listening. Some of you might not know who the boys ours but they're kind of like a a new school youtube version of Jackass where they just do dumb shit. They're obnoxious. I mean I saw one video clip above they all went to a winery and you know everyone's trying to enjoy like the taste testing and they'd just like they're buying bottles and they're just like guzzling pouring red wine all over everybody buddy and now and then they get kicked out with the cops get called so these guys are absolute hooligans if you haven't seen them check them out online but transitioning from that Does anyone still call you spidey. Does anyone still call you spidey. No my God no fucking talked about it. Go exactly I'm good golf fuck you. You're not good. You're going to talk about why why you wanted to be called Spidey when you're a kid. Your old man tells me you're the biggest spiderman fan ever. That's such a low blow. It's we gotta get into Louis because I got to know him. When I was playing for for the oilers he was the color guy there now I believe the head guy for the late game on hockey night in Canada and played in the NHL and probably was a part of the one of the most memorable first NHL goals when you scored against Nashville and I believe the first game of the year your rookie season and you got to see your dad in the stands I'm sure after when he when he got a tear in his eye but what a special moment that was assigned talking him after must've been incredible yeah it was obviously a special night just first game and the NHL and then having the family come down like God and and obviously the video went viral? That's the first time I've ever seen cry. I want him to be out to you know as dad but it's off by someone that doesn't really shared those emotions. I guess and kind of see him. you know do that was was pretty special moment and just a special special day all around for me but spicy story story. I mean I gotta go with it. I was I wanna say like seven or something like that and obviously huge spider man. I think Spicer Spiderman just this came out so the huge fan and I really wanted to be spire event so I think what happened was my parents went and got me and that or something like that I like toys. It wasn't even Halloween and put it on. Apparently I kept it on for the entire day and wouldn't say like my name is Jay Selfish Jake Spidey he was fifteen years old to junior year old man wrote here the year before your NHL draft so I don't know maybe there's a few years separation storyline here but but radio's made he has told me McGuire written on the novice stick. I actually thought this video I saw the video this summer and like like my dad and my mom was egging me on like just laughing it up his ex pretty funny to watch definitely embarrassing Jose delete this. Are you all this are you in all this DC marvel marvel stuff all the all the show's coming over vendors. I dabble in that stuff yeah I I didn't mind endgame in that kind of stuff but movies lately than brutal brutal awful so I'm just kinda waiting for something to be good to go. Watch 'cause not really a scary guy either so there's been absolute junk out. This should be actually the Toronto International Film Festival in here we go. What a lot of good shit common? Oh there's a lot of good Oscar Bates because she yes okay with that. Jake I WANNA ask you your young kid when you dad retired but you remember seeing him. Play it all hanging around the locker room. That's Zyppah Shit that young kids get to do with Dad's played in the NHL not as much as I'd like to to be honest. I don't remember him. Playing 'cause usually wasn't playing too much but at the same time I think that I was also just too young to remember the probably the memories that I have he has he actually got someone to give them a highlight reel video like from his whole career and I saw out out but probably the only thing that I've really seen scoring or gift was eleven seconds Louis. Yeah I loved it though is awesome but yeah definitely I do have to show it. Oh Your Dad's head of hair just one of the best salads of all time they think still hasn't gone anywhere but I also also wonder. He's such a different player than you right. So I mean growing up to speed necessarily didn't have you get the shot the skills not to dog him right now but was he he must still been huge for your development and get not only getting you into hockey but helping you become the player you are yeah. He was definitely massive he he helped me a lot. I would just different things especially going through you know junior and all the way up the ranks especially as of late and like you said he does the he's still around the game. He does call her for sports net so he's he's always watching the game and Kinda just taking notes and stuff but definitely helped me develop my skills earlier when I was kind of growing up because all they want to do is play hockey just it'd be like him and you know just kind of follow his lead but I wasn't necessarily that big growing up I think when I got drafted Bam drought I think I was actually like five foot. One hundred earn fifteen pounds so I wasn't the same player because it kind of house built at the time but you definitely helped me with my development and he still does talk too much much after every single game and just helped me a little things because he knows my game the best well. We're definitely going to have him on his promise. He'd come on at one point but I'm wondering has he ever talked to you about the the style he played in in what you've seen guys struggle with post Concussion Syndrome when they get out of the game has ever talked about any issues he ever had because just seeing him and knowing him personally. I mean he doesn't don't seem to really battle anything but you never really know behind closed doors what goes on when a guy retires. Ben had that many fights yeah that's true and that's Aug- Sierra like you said it's a topic and you know he used he was getting hit and had a good amount of times and you know he's punching people to and you know I i. I guess to really have an aspirin like straight because it doesn't seem seems completely fine and normal psyche always has I guess that makes any sense I think he's a lot more than what he was when he played from some things I've heard while on the injury front I got a quick story that will lead in one for you so I was was in training camp one of my first years in Pittsburgh and there's a period in my career where I stopped wearing a jock because I felt like I had more rain mobility in my Oh cup no cup while I I did that in the H. L. And then the next year training camp foreskin. I says why would still use the outside part. Okay okay just to keep it in there. During all rolled out Calamar style but so Sergei Sergei Gonchar was coming down the wall and the end up in the puck in and he got a little bit more more zing zing on the end up hitting me right in the nuts and I wasn't able to finish that intersquad game when he got me in the bag. Now a similar story happened to you where you took going ads but it was way worse junior. I want you to tell the story yeah. No it's not a good feeling it is tough. I was is in the slot and the fucking yeah well playing with in junior in. I don't know who were victorious. anyways his play happened where I don't remember what happened pretty much but he got reversed around the corner in time would be two D and I was playing center at the time and for some reason the defensive was was like talking circles anyways gets puck absolutely blossom one timer and I had a cup on the whole time during this play and I went down one needy obsolete drilled right and I was like holy. I went down like it is. There's no spill not in the worst part about it was I couldn't even like stand up so like I was crawling going to the bench and my trainer like the boys are laughing at me 'cause they didn't think it was they didn't really know what happened but they thought you know I guess a lot but that was really crawling and then I go inside the room and I'm like talking to the doctor that was there and you know he was like I need to go to the hospital and I was a yeah. I think we do the ended up. you know having to get surgery on the record so both Irving's August reached out there. I was speaking uh-huh 'cause I didn't know if I was like I was like what seventeen at the time and I'm I'm not the smartest guy out there in housing may have kids like puffed situation. Yeah I was like really act balloon up that way to get surgery with balloon up what was exactly the surgical procedure that had taken place so what they it had to do with they had to lake pretty much like not clean at the drain size like elephantiasis tennis ball whose grew all my nose the feeling going round the heavy sack but he didn't get the nuts never got empty. How long was it before you will ever to scratch yourself again? You're you're asking it. NHL Player how long jerked out this ball surgery wait why had a girlfriend at the time so it didn't take too long to they're like don't do anything like around like the two week mark like after like I was on heavy medication adopt. They're like don't do anything. Don't use it pretty much for two weeks and it was under that this was the comment euro manmade he goes. I picked them up and swift current. He was pretty quiet for the first fifteen minutes of the drive. Then he looked at me and he said well I guess I would I would give my left nut to play in the NHL. I almost did thank God kid. It was okay Joe Hickok slapshot to the golden ads. This kid is tough so Joe Hicks was the guy who got you right in the not so show glad you're able to keep both threw balls jumping joe the fuck man fucking area. I'll take the DASH because you would've looked good going down to block it. It wouldn't have been your fall you to give your all. Just don't just don't actually want to go back to pops or a second like we said you guys were very different players about two he ever give you any like just in case fighting lessons for when it's probably GonNa Happen at some point. Did he yeah he did he. He did especially like four junior like he always wrestled with me and stuff and he always tries to place very much every time home and definitely still start off. I'll ever be able to take down Alan but it's mostly just defense like just kind of being aware of. I guess what to expect. In that scenario. I thought a couple of times in junior and thought on one eight two years ago guesses Iverson show but I'm not three like it's in my blood like I I don't necessarily really care about that but at the same time I think that was good for him to at least tell them how defend myself and from getting raked over the coals. It's Kinda hold on and different things like August. I think is an advantage for sure and outside of fight what was the best. Nhl Advice that he gave you before you went pro best advice they gave me before it went pro. probably just enjoy everything everything. I think that's the sound pretty simple not to create you but like enjoy the moments boys is enjoy everything the up and down through the season and obviously enjoyed playing league you dreamed of playing and I think that I have lived up to a T. Yasser. Yeah I think that you show that you just love the game which is awesome looking back and seeing the numbers of your draft your forty two goals that year which is just an unreal season for what a seventeen year old whatever for that is but the draft comes along. Did you figure out that you were going to go middle first-round hoping for a little bit higher. How did that whole day because I know you know personally? You know we're the only to I I trump picks talking right now and so I will never forget the day I'm assuming it's the same for you yeah. No definitely definitely is my life but it was it was kind of shoop. Ought there is a there's a lot of things going on obviously in the morning and you know I talked to you. I think every single team to combine spy didn't actually know where I was going to go by. Initial thought process was as I'm going to school team. That likes me. you know no matter. What and I thought Boston is actually took me which I called so I I was happy with that but yeah the day itself is off no so nervous I didn't even you eat or and I remember I had to? I had to shave. I had a little bit of like little Mazi going on so I tried to shave and have this more on the right side of my face and absolutely nicked it. Extols don't bleed neither so I- legitimately like shaving they nicot and that's just believing for about two and a half hours straight so like every drafty pitcher and stuff. I have like gossip powers our molly molly on my right side. You mentioned that you you had that interview with Boston. I imagine it went well considering. You thought you were going to get drafted opted there now. We've had a few guys come on and talk about some of those meetings inside those rooms Terry Ryan probably one of the most notable stories any any funny questions that you're asked or encounters counters with scouts in any of those meetings that you can remember couple couple couple like I don't know if there's like two questions nations with you know at that point. I was lucky every team so the same same questions we're Kinda come in and all it's I guess that makes accents but one of the counters they had or at least that everyone in the room left I was with Boston. They asked what was my favorite animal and I didn't know what to say. Hey of the pause ten seconds I think shirt and everyone just started laughing probably by only twenty really story I guess but even still didn't it's Kinda weak. I didn't really have any to who who created questions and then the I the follow up ahead fuck. I actually forgot it. I I forgot my question the biggest grin yeah all right so we got another note from your boy den Haydn who wanted us to ask you about you. Get your new car uninjured burying the thing I bought it and then you had a couple other incidents. What's is going on with you driving yeah? I don't know man I I was so yeah I argued last year. Birthday yourself a nice present and I'm excited obviously and I'm trying to park this thing pitchers no sense of my buddies back home like just excited and after I do that I go into parking absolutely slammed land this pulse and they have the Monitor's on both sides could hear what I'm closest by spill crushed like I don't know how or what happened but then I go to the rink rank and passes the first guy that I see everybody would happen. Everyone was Chirp Bosa since then. It probably four crashes I just I just keep getting hit man. I don't know what look like yeah well when you don't use your blinker and cut over to another lane you just GonNa end get run into some maybe higher driver Marijke Rica. Drop me your driver. He's due for free but I'll tell you about all your shifts after the Games is it was the Boston traffic after after Kim was a huge because people drive like total assholes and Boston. Do you think that might be having so many fender benders. I think I was like I think honk literally the first first two weeks I was driving here that might have been. I don't know who it was or what but I was like all the like a different way of driving especially going from Edmonson Boston in the knowledge that definitely a Boston style driver like I've gotten better decides you know a couple of crashes here and there but they haven't been to major so that's been all good the I'm not I'm swift this with that stuff. It's just like parking for me. Any time we tried to back in something or like we have practiced arena in everyone like parks in this kind like gated area downstairs and I parked in my little spot that lily no one's even close to like there's no polls like very very weird open-field the six ten minute walk. They'll do it every day. all right so we have some sources here. We've dug up some info on you and you talk to players nowadays. As in the way they train the way they eat the way they prepare themselves and you're just amazed at how certain guys go about it well then you hear about Jacob rose a complete wheels on it flies around on the ice and drinks nothing but root beer needs nothing but oreos so what what's going on there I actually can. I is water like especially water van like if there's anything else around the gate or something like that. I'm going to drink the gatorade every single time we go out for dinner like I don't even use drake. It's not that that just never happens. You're on the Ovechkin plant you drinking Popovich too. I don't actually don't but I split sometimes passer taking your mission but I don't know I strictly do Gaito like I've water sometimes here in the bench like by accident but just not a fan and then the I love Oreos. It's like I can crush dot directors. I go mick. I'm actually in the birthday cakes right now okay. What was the best one they've ever done? They do some weird launches sometimes too so they've had different flavors. What's the greatest the Rubio on non original oreo flavor? What's the best one other than that not the original one that okay? That's a tough question actually. Do you ever try the blonde one say shark. The Bond One's GonNa Answer Shark Stupid. No honestly say birthday cakes probably up there like I am a huge fan of these but they had some game of thrones one block calls made it was like double chocolate or something like that and his elite. I'm a huge thrones Fan Yun are going to start talking shows now little big some. That's probably the one that I remember the most anyways I'm straight up though like I'll have regular double. Stop like anything Oriole. I'll eat. I got got one hockey question before I thought over the guys and I remember the second part to my question. Just came to me you end up getting treated in your last year junior over the red deer rebels and brunt insiders air correct. Yes still the head coach. I mean he's he's a pretty hardcore old school individual now spending that little time with that team and then making a little bit of a playoff run. I believe you guys got knocked out in the third play offs. How much did that impact your career and prepare you for pro hockey? He was huge that like you said more of an old school coach original coaches Mark Lamb Superior WanNa cop and he was old schools well and and it's just a different kind of field 'cause nowadays in the Nhl you always hear vote you know coach is having problems with that kind of style like people to new guys so the young guys coming up but the old school style is you guys know. Brentwood is pretty low key with me. He was really good. you know not not really anything too crazy until the playoffs that year I remember you Kinda came. came after pretty hard deserved it I mean I needed it against Calgary and prepared me pretty well for for my career. How we've how do you feel about that? Some of these kids not able to take the coaches being a little bit hard and in teaching accountability. 'cause I say it all the time my favorite coaches now that look back or are the ones that there was a little bit of fear. I was walking. I would say walking on eggshells but you know I was at the rink and I was prepared and I didn't WanNa get caught slipping where nowadays I mean these. Some of these kids are a little soft and they're not used to getting yelled out like that and then they kind of curl into shell where you know maybe if you were is used to. I'm sure you'd have conversations with your old man. He's like hey hey. That's what it's GonNa take. Those guys are trying to prepare you for the next level yeah exactly and that's the perfect point too is whenever I did have problems was it especially when I was younger I go through my dad and I think I I agree with you. Those are the best coaches because they're straight up with you. Their honest and you know usually know when it's coming to usually no and I guess the soups coming down and it's just the way it is but I feel that some of the younger like usually college kids college guys I just knock them log on our team but that's usually what I hear anyways in that front but I doubt as I guess you know here and there how to deal with it I deal with it really well and just how the coaches had been hewn gitanas which relationship would bruce cassidy like he seems like a stray sued. Maybe not as much as a hot guy's an old school guy but he seems to be pretty directly certainly is what the media Yeah No. He's he's he's pretty straight shooter. He met him. I think the first time I've had encounter with them with my first ever training camp and he told me hands so you know he's got that dry sense of humor to them in a way but definitely good coach. I think the the biggest thing that I learned about him this year. We're just a just makes me think that I was on the talk power play unit pretty much. We're probably most majority of the year last year and just to see how he talks to those guys then goes talks during video meetings and and that kind of stuff offer think there's a reason why such a coach for us but you know there's Daffy some times where I I don't get it humor in a way so I I kind of feel bad. Put you on the spot. We do this a lot when we're when we're asking teammates of of legends in the game what they're like give me your first reaction in kind of memory of meat and Patrice Bergeron and is is there anything memorable of that he said or did for your first year that really just Kinda reminded you how special that guy is. I think this is presence. I remember the first time this is present surround sound kind of cheesy. It's true and he introduced himself instead if I needed anything to go through him driving lessons in the past insurance premiums a great fall worried now. We got you got you now again. I need to help out state farm deal Gee. I'd say I'd ask you if you're nervous going into your contract. Attract your but we already know. You're taking a team friendly deal because you're part of that cult over there in Boston. Do they brainwash guys during video sessions or something. They told me from a different organization. I WANNA know how it all works over there in Boston yeah. She seems like I'm getting that question a lot beyond but I'm not sure I I don't know what Liz I How feel contract negotiations I haven't even I? I'm wired differently. I'm just here to play hockey. I mean like you said. I guess you've got a cold here. So that's how it is is back this year trying to win while I will say I I haven't often seen stats like yours from one year to the other first year you go sixteen twenty seven for forty three points joints well this year you add one more assist. It would have been the same thing backward you went twenty seven and fifteen for forty two which is way better going into car. You'd rather have the twenty seven goals fifteen fifteen assists than the other way around so I'm sure you're fired up to this year to just kind of build on that. Goal scoring is just getting better and better and was there anything this summer you tried to really concentrate on even though it was a real short one yeah they there's a couple of different things like whether it's training or are on ice and I think the biggest thing for me is skating. I think that when I gained fastened using my speed generates more chances so I tried really focus on none I mean that's overall you ask any guy. That's that's the big thing now is the game speed so that was probably the biggest thing that I focus on but also just finishing tight. I did a lot of I guess goalie sessions with the dust and Schwartz is a coach for the oilers and Johnson goalies hearts and a couple of their prospects pretty much the whole summer that it had and every time they'd do usually find. I get decent results shooting against guys like that that kind of insight stuff. That's that's where I get my goals. It's pretty much in front of that but there to catch her first quick rebounds and I feel like that if I can find to that then I'll I'll have more success jake which is mentioned Berge around. I wanted to ask the the first time you come in the room. You've got ninety Bergeron Chara a whole bunch of other veterans in there. Is that intimidating the first time you become a pot of room. It's like a kind of like a speaker. Let's just don't speak and let's just spoken to type situation yeah. It's true like I mean that's that's natural to feel like that's all I mean and now seeing guys come into the first time it's Kinda crazy you know what they're going through when they first meet everybody or one is hard to mess. He's six nine and you know you go talk to actually called me Lou. He thought my dad he fought my own way. How did that one go hide? There's no video of it. There's no video video of it but we had a father's trip and we talked about. It and I don't know still what happened so I think my dad got dusted or nothing happened in the fight 'cause by Dad's side of the story is that he you know he was re grappling with them. Whatever God good spawning and then he starts throwing bombs but he's hitting nothing there and so then he was like I'm in trouble like I got it pretty much down? I can't hit this guy until the fight ended up. Not Really I guess happening. There's no video of it but Z Z cosby Liu so that made me feel more comfortable. I think the best thing was those guys when I come in is it's not what you think everyone's everyone's here for the right reasons and every wants to help each other how success with the team and so you can go from Burgi disea- even back scratch all leaders in the room. It's intimidating once he talks. I usually get pretty comfortable pretty quick. I got one This is more information for people listening and I I'm more curious than anyone this Julia Honky can you play with them in swift current offense defense when I played actually against them in the American Hockey League Very Silky Defenseman hasn't really been able to fully adjusted the NHL and play his game up to his ability. Now there is rumors that he might go over to the Montreal Canadians I fuck in the meantime this interview we might have already gotten moved over but what should people know about him who haven't already heard about autumn in in the NHL World Yeah I played I wanNA see year yeah good guy. He didn't know much English at the time to be honest good but the one thing he did was McDonald's because that's where we usually go so hung out there and you know like you said though so Claire Really offensive he you can make plays and see the ice. NHL Level I believe and you know I'm not too sure exactly what his situation is right now talk to him in a while ago but definitely good player definitely good offensive defensively I pass I mean sometimes there's little risk there obviously with like that but I love that tweet at Grinnell high liability defensively but good off Louis we love it well. You know what this was an awesome interview. We had a blast with you and I think everyone listened to tell when you say the guys always give you shit. That's usually they give give that to the guy they love so you're a guy. That's all the boys for boys junior hockey guy thanks for coming. Thanks for being a guest on the show. Do we appreciate it very much fun now saying that was one thing that you thought you were going to ask about that. You wanted to talk about to end this thing off. Maybe a funny story or no no pressure pressure story was. I just thought maybe another oriole flavor. Actually I didn't bring up yeah. No there were no to be onsite. I think I'm okay I mean I I think I cleared my name but in a sense. I don't know if I can even tell the stories if you know what I'm sure you're you're more being being a good punching bag not the the guy in the middle of the room telling the funny stuff but then but then when I do it's really fun to figure that out so that'll be that'll be when we have beer or sometimes I thank you very much good luck this year that interview is also brought to you by Kenai brands as you know can I- brands a CBD company it creating all natural hemp derived products for athletic wellness started by athletes build for performance and puts wellness at the core of everything they do and stand for whether that's giving your day a boost getting a better sleep mending an injury or refreshing your mind and body can I- brands has a bomb cream spray day and oils made for you were also excited to announce that can I brand is also screening official partners to sell within store so if you are an Jim health health club SPA therapy clinic and interested in carrying Kenai brands bombs creams oils and sprays in your stores email info at Kenai brand's dot com that is I n F O at Kenai brands which is C. 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I ran the goalie and wild follow up a couple of weeks back. We talked about the ASS SASK. Junior Hockey League golly burke a brick Elliott he you got bundled trying to play a part. The Guy who did it got a twenty five game suspension His name Your Interior Greg Mulhall suspended play while he popped up on on social media once again and he had this to say he rollet am great but raids around blocking rights virgil yeah and then he was promptly and he basically team anymore so he was obviously wasted and some guy went up to a music. Oh what did you think of the hidden these fucking Rachel and then he just started mouth off and that's it boom gone done done abso- hope it was worth the lakes Bra yeah my my one buddy text me about it and he's like this guy's clout Jason. He's definitely loving it right now when he hears this like checklists is boy talking about him for the guy can't play hockey again well. He's he's not done forever. They said he could play next year and actually in a message to the Canadian Press on Monday. The goalie all who was hurt burke by brick Elliot said he fo- he's focused on recovering from his injury in hopes to return the ice. I said I think what happened on the ice in how he responded wanded between him the hockey Gods and League regulations and I trust that the S J Jug Committee has the capacity to manage that situation the best way possible yeah well. I love the fact he referenced hockey Gods and his quote It's awesome so this is a so that's obviously he was response after he'd seen the video radio yes yes that was him saying like basically the you know. He's basically seven in the hockey gods in quote if he didn't think hockey or if he thought the hockey gods were getting him before this snowman absolutely they're taking. They're taking a memo right now. So all right boys. We got to get to the Atlantic preview. We've had a lot to talk about. 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We're GONNA take a look at the Atlantic division the old Adams Division even it doesn't look much like it did twenty thirty years ago only three teams from this division qualify for the postseason last year we had five D. N. Cues first off going to take a look at the old Tampa Bay lightning they kicked ass and took names all year when the President Strove with one hundred twenty eight points which is twenty one points more than anyone else and then they were embarrassingly racing lease swept and Ron Wyden won by Columbus shoes disappointment some few changes that are contend that don't make too many moves they did add Kevin Shattenkirk. Pat Maroon Wound Curtis mcelhinney Luke they said by JT Miller in Giradi retired like we've been saying about all these contenders guys the lightning. Don't don't have to make any major aged changes. They're right there. They're stacked the cup or the Cup fade once again but they took it too lightly vassal. FC said I think we got comfortable and we just weren't ready in the playoffs. I thought thought that was pretty revealing quote with dog. What do you think they do this year buddy? I say look code leak but I also say. I don't think it'll be like it was last year and it'll partly because that was once in a lifetime type regular-season. Here's the thing like when when is best left. You said it said that yes so it's almost impossible to not become complacent complacent. When you've clinched the first round I top seed in the in the in the playoffs eastern conference in January I mean they had they had months of hockey aware as hard as you're saying we got a play? We gotta be ready for the place. We had to keep going to keep grinding in your head. You know like we're locked up so it's just a tough thing to deal with now. You can't do anything anything about it. You're playing that good winning all these games early and dominating. It's like what are you GonNa do change winning all these games no right but I don't think that'll happen the way it did last year so it because has it. They'll be more ready going in. They add shattenkirk who I think it's looking to prove a lot of people wrong think he's like not necessarily a really good puck moving demon anymore and then also in the playoffs you gotTa Remember Number Headman the best defense in the NHL arguably he's hurt. He wasn't able to play. He was really really heard actually the way he was playing so a bunch of horrible. Things went against them. In in the playoffs. It was a dream regular season that ended up turning into a nightmare because of that when you go through a devastating hard loss like that I think that they're going to be driven and ready to run on teams over this year part of the problem how going into playoffs us here was. It hadn't really face any type of diversity throughout the season was all of a sudden. You're you know you play a certain style and then you get in the playoffs and things do tighten up a tighten up a bit especially when you're playing against a a defensive minded torch team who doesn't give any square inch out there unless you've earned it they just they got behind the eight ball and they were unable to adjust and they and they couldn't figure out how to get through adversity because they hadn't done it as a group all season long so going to this year you said it probably won't be like last she as far as how they dominated throughout the entire course season and that's probably a good thing on this to me the biggest question mark. Is You know I would say that the most drastic drastic thing about that playoff performance I would say was as Leschi. I thought he was I mean he didn't even give him a chance to win. They're all his his glove. Hand was non existent now of course course they believe in them. They think he'd get back to his elite status right away of over the course of the regular season but you've now paid them to guessing that he might be able to flip the switch on this year so that's got to be the question mark going into the postseason so I mean we're a case here where I don't really care what I see from the regular season all of these guys. I know they're gonNA make the playoffs. I just WanNa see what's going to happen when they get to. The dance part of the reason that it can be somewhat difficult is that it's such a long time away from playoffs today. Do they have to wait so long to really prove people wrong and all the guys in the room no even if we do it again. Everyone's GonNa say well. Show me what you did in April and our a as I said to earlier like they we we know exactly how they're going to play. They're gonNA play like the way they did. In the last year's regular season right so it's like what happens this year moving forward if they do make playoffs and then you suffer another early exit where it's like yeah we have a we have fun team to watch the regular season and analytics and all these other things tells us how great we are but when the you know the the play tightens tighten up a little bit and and and it's playoff hockey time while those numbers mean Jack Shit so we'll we'll see I mean they got. They got brain point out to start the year so that'll be a little tough right. I mean not necessarily but he does have a hip injury. I missed. I just signed the other day but in terms of offseason hip ah I believe hip right so we'll see how they start. I just think that the coaching staff and everyone on that team realizes we know we're going to be in the playoffs. We're GONNA play good hockey but it's just not going to be like it was last year. It may never again be be like that for a team in the regular season and and also another thing we're GonNa see how is the Pat Maroon experiment experimenting to go because because he he's a guy where if you look at the way he plays as structure and you know maybe he is slowing down now that he's getting older. That's a different pace that they play at so maybe vehicle completely benefit them to have a guy who's far cycle and on the walls and and I really think come playoff hockey time that's where he shines because the puck protection in eating clock and wearing teams down and being physical down low is is a big part of it I mean we talked a crosby about it. He's he's he's a he's a skilled guy who's great along the walls and you have to add that to your bag so I'm gonNA be interested to see how that pans out but I think overall I mean Callahan's not a plane anymore and you know he wasn't on the best of friendly contract for their purposes and then they ended up getting rid of JT Miller solving collect dave cleared their cap space issues in and they haven't gotten worse. Yes that's a better team an exclusive Asi in the playoffs last year. They just got out hustled by Columbus. I mean the that was that was a team. Piss it but I want to ask you well as you as you know. Not that it team wants to dial it down. I mean obviously you paid to go full throttle but like you know how does coach almost like sort of Poland rain so you don't you know basically a little before the playoffs like they did last year what's hard because you're trying to teach in the mindset of y'all. We can't let off the gas and they didn't right right I supposed to do they had that big a month and a half. It's and that's why I said it's like you can't do anything. Thank you gotta you gotTa keep winning but you're just like Jesus too good to be true. We haven't lost at all. You also know it's such a game of inches and anything the littlest thing can change entire series. They went up three in the first period of game. One against Columbus say they win that game like do they want to sweep them. It was just this perfect vic storm that I do not think will happen again. I love their team again. This year. I think they will not lose in the first round and look for them to make a cup run and they are my pick to win their reasoning. It would be an an absolute shame if you put this core group of players together and by the time it's all whether it away because he's not getting any younger if they were unable to bring a championship home with that fucking line but it content for decade now I mean they had that that's here's the Bruins at Stamkos that was two thousand eleven and they've they've been pretty much. Incontestable instant the wonderful job as an organization and I hate to bring it here. You have to imagine that an advantage goes in the fact that they don't pay state tax and you you just saw you just saw on that compared the contracts I believe you showed me that Martyrs Making Eleven Toronto and and points won't accept just under seven. I think he makes six seven five or something either way and the tweet and monitors only taking home a million dollars more than a year after taxes pets. It's four million of course. You're going to be able to keep this this well well structure team together. It's kind of like the opposite for Toronto Yeah. That's why they're having so many issues it. You're you're looking at the exact same draft developed it developed that opted develop dating warrior. That's a tough one the title he D- Now now because they're living where they are. They're getting you know they're going to being able to do it. Where Toronto has to fucking make moves in order to keep those guys? Maybe yeah so so obviously playoffs for myself as well. They just got to remember this April. How should he felt last? April and short doesn't happen again next up the old Boston. Austin bruins finished up with one hundred seven points. They had a nice little run for themselves. A lot of people didn't expect when all the way to game seven of the Stanley Cup final till they ran into the Shit Shit kicked him. I'm Bob of Saint Louis Blues beat them rate series couple of new faces for the Bruins Ritchie Paul Lynde home they sit by to Nola Cherry Markus Johannesson. I'm grateful in the playoffs as a pretty brutal end into an otherwise great season. I know it's called a great season you lose the Cup got to game seven couldn't solve Bennington the first period and then it was curtains yes but because of that run the team doesn't really need to make changes. They brought in a little bit of depth at the bottom but the dis the same the goals of the same fords are essentially the same in the objective the same they you gotta go out and do it Whitney. What do you think of visa? I like them again. it's GonNa be really hard to come back from that loss and when we did talk to Jake Dubrovsky mentioned so so you never get over it so it's about beginning a year that seems like it was so short which it was I mean your summer goes by in the blink of an eye on your back in training camp see wonder how they're startled me but they're the same team I mean yes a year older but if you look at the best hockey I'd argue that with anyone to harass and locked together I mean what a tandem that was. They both were great during the regular season in two was fabulous in the playoffs as well so along with getting mcevoy sign charge forty two years old to his minutes have taken and drop you saw aw he's better off now playing eighteen minutes. He can't do the twenty-five anymore which is fine for this team Wagner's back. That's my boy so I bring him up. I do think that really fucking hurt them. Against Saint Louis he was a guy would have played the Saint Louis Style for the Bruins that whole series they didn't have them but I love corrals. Their fourth line can be so good they those guys can even play up and down the lineup and they lost the Chari on that line correct. Yes Char. He's he's in the division tough tough loss. That is a tough loss so I just think with the forward unit they have it comes down to to David Krejci and a lot of ways because you've seen years that he has consistent years where he's getting sixty five to seventy five points points with bruins are dominant because they have that second line if he's not good then they're really kind of a one nineteen for scoring so I I love watching the team play I think they're gonNA in the playoffs. I'm definitely picking them play. I don't think they'll win the division but it's still going to be really hard because think about how how much felony place for them last year they got to play Carolina in the Eastern Conference Finals Tampa loss. They didn't have to play them. It was a pretty smooth ride after after game seven of the first round against Toronto to get to the Cup final so it's only going to get tougher with teams coming back and getting better. We'll see if they can get to the cup again but for sure I think they're gonNa make the playoffs and I think it'll be a fun team to watch and look for mcevoy. Sorry one more thing to make a huge step. This could be the year. You're like Whoa I mean. They've already seen glimpses of him dominating. Maybe it's like Norris. Trophy candidate type season for Charlie mcevoy rest rest is it might be a little bit of a concern of mine going into the season now. Would you say Noel Charlie was probably the most significant loss of the off-season awesome worth lying deadline they oh yeah correct I mean they should have to think about this. Swap Charlie coils a guy that they got over that trade. He didn't really have a great end of the season last year when he came over in that move is unreal offensively but then he got going to the playoffs. You got imagine that he's going to have a better performance in the regular season season so to me. That's a boost affair swap Ofer Nola Chari if not even an upgrade and I mean to me I I never really noticed that Grizzly doc until until playoff time he's an excellent defense and you just got imagine charge getting a little bit older. He's GonNa Start Getting those minutes and once again you see an organization who who doesn't unbelievable job of drafting developing guys and just grooming them into what they're gonNA eventually need to be as far as they're all on the team I mean Steven Kampfer's and other guy who was pretty solid and playoff student really on I mean he didn't step in much I mean he seems like a guy who's going to be competent enough to take on some some defenseman depth minute so all I mean this is this is a very good lineup and there's some there's a few other forwards who might have had off years who could still bump it up offensively so I think I mean I could see this team. Competing competing for first in the East I agree more so than Tampa and I wouldn't be surprised if they reunite greasy and mcevoy at some point. Those guys play together in college. They kind of know each other well. There's some in chemistry. They'll obviously mcevoy's with Z. Right now but that could happen in Biz you kinda stole my thunder little coil unbelievable pickup like you said he did look in the regular season. He was the best player in the first round on big versatile cassie kind of moving around and cash. We gotta give him props to job. He's done ever since they just an extension. I yeah early in the summit that it was a three year extension. He's done an unreal job with his team but like I said it's couple boss with them again. What does suck what you mentioned they almost it's like when you lose that deep in the playoffs game seven? It's almost like they get somewhat of panel holds the benefit of right up just because they played so much so they gotta bounce back from that as well but yeah I definitely have in the playoffs y'all. La Will you know what they were twenty one points behind Tampa last year. I don't know if they'll catch him but I definitely see them top three in the divisional doubt so that's a team. That's that's right. They're they're not going anywhere. I I did say quickly. You'll Hanson once you saw what he signed for. I remember remember we were like million a year off and then you saw you're like wow they got rid of him but having said what you said earlier in the summer was Econo- can't doubt on Sweeney lately there was some chirps given too early couple deals here and there but he's made some pretty great move so they don't sound your Hanson but you've got to trust you. I mean you gotta think they gave that money to someone else. mcevoy was wasn't Danton Danton Heinen another guy. They had to give money through this. He resigned a two year. Do I think the year before the or maybe it was corralled. I thought it was one of those Maccabi Carla why but but there was another guy right after the season I believe they are in the midst of the summer that they resign. I'm drawing a blank on it but there was somebody else I mean Fuck I. I said everyone was at the team norstrom. They kept somebody back. who had a bit of an offseason anyway? We can move on now who we got next. Just cut that out. It sounds like an idiot next up the leafs. They finished up one hundred points last year. Not Stop Me if you've heard this one before but they were knocked out in the first round by the Bruins and seven games CBS so I leave fans knew faces Tyson Berry Cody Alex Kerr Foot Jason Spencer said Adios Done Qadri Patrick Malo. Oh Jake Gardner Nikita Zaitsev Ron Haines Karna Brown tyler and that's a lot of changes for a team that was a top three finish in the division about how about a half dozen regulars has gone but bringing in Tyson Barrie that was obvious the biggest moves the leafs you know quick. Nobody is scheduled to be a UFC after this season but the deal is the one area that really needed improvement on that squad they went out and they fix some of it is what do you think I mean. I think this year might be the year and the reason I say that is because after after the season they gotta realize that they're gonNA have to pay Tyson Berry or Morgan Riley and they're not going to be able to keep both around. They're not going to have the luxury of having two of the best puck moving defensemen on one team and that takes a lot of pressure off the power play it takes a lot of pressure off one into individual defense and that's got to get the job done because it's one not one guy it could be the other I mean I another prime example of that is I had Keith Yandell on my team and all of a sudden we draft all of recommend Larsen listen and next thing you know we got two guys on the back end who can snap it around and ask Oliver as soon as Keith got moved all of a sudden all that focuses on just on him and and and and I'm not saying played drop because of what easy though but it wasn't an easy right so great luxury for them in the back end. I really liked that cody move because I think that he's going to be playing playing where he should be as opposed to in Ottawa where it's like all well. He thinks he's worth this much and it's like well while he's a he's a solid offensive when used right he's not he's not the Tyson berries not just because he's GonNa make a little bit more because he was your only competent defenceman while well you can't hold that against them just playing where he should so I really liked their back and I love their goaltending as far as up front man. There's a lot lot approved for those big boys. They got. I mean there's a few other guys that could take the heat off of them. That CA captain and kids pretty selke. They got him on a very fair deal bill. Yeah I mean especially if you look at the kids sign for gob moving from Winnipeg to Pittsburgh Tanna Tanna I mean I think they got the same amount of money. In this Cap'n in an fucking play at three is nine point six billion. That's a nice tag for him so luckily they were able to sneak him on an affair deal in in those types of guys. We're going to have to pull the weight because they got They weren't able to spread the money much around considering they have a few guys making what a lot all at least a little below low eleven million dollars eleven six let alternate if those guys can bring what they thought they they were worth than. I think I see no problem with this team. I mean it's going to be the same top three in that division. This year was last year. So you brought up a high landers. GonNa have a huge year mark my words he's GonNa. Have you think he's got a lot to prove. He's got a chip on the shoulder older and from what I've heard I mean even talking off the Matthews a little bit. He's he's hungry. Okay so you brought up captain. I think think that die hard leafs fans understood but a lot of people around the league who don't follow them as intensely as people from Toronto and people from all over the leafs fans is they realized that it it was as important as it was to get Marna re-signing back on this team. Captain and Andreas Johansson were dynamite last year and that's the depth and Biz you bring up what they got those guys to sign deals for three three and a half whatever it is those are the guys that that'll make this this offense really tech because they can get twenty twenty five each and and all of a sudden you're really taking pressure off the guys you brought this up but it was a great point having said all that the big three guys they kyle promised a couple years ago or a year ago that they were getting neulander matthews and Martin or sign and he did it he did it was up and down up and down battle and it looked at times like it wouldn't happen to of them being not long but holdouts so it ended up happening to now crush on well. Guess what I think Austin Matthews wins the MVP this year where I don't think the P- the pressure isn't necessarily on this year as far as well because those deals haven't kicked in its next year when they have now has already kicked in because he was off his entry level but matthews wasn't now wow that the money that those guys took is all in effect whereas now there's not they're not going to be able to put as much around them because of how quote unquote greedy they they were in taking a lot of money and digging away at the salary cap then. It's like okay you want it now. You've got fucking. Carry the team on your own because you didn't want any money to spend it spread it around a little bit yeah. It's well said and I just I think Matthews is going to be a man possessed this year. I think you're looking at a guy who can get one hundred points forty goals sixty s if not more goals I just this is a year where you I picture him completely dominating even more so than he has in the past and the one weird thing is that they had enough six start to last year the first half of the best teams league and then they limped into the playoffs it got ugly down the stretch and they lose the first round so they're going to figure out a way they'd have to be consistent the entire regular dollars another reason why everyone was pretty hard on kneeland or to his things were going really well when he was and it just so happens he comes back. He wasn't playing well all of a sudden the team's not playing well and you know when things aren't going alone Toronto they gotta they gotTa have a whipping boy and it just so happens. It was the wrong the wrong year to sit out in demand more more your money and if you're GONNA question anything it's Qadri is a tough loss in the guy took the dumbest penalties in the playoffs but he was he was great for them and he was a guy that was hard to to play against. We've said it a million times on here. Someone's going to have to step up and be a replacement and I know they did get Johnson and captain resigned but Karna Brown played some good minutes for for them as well. He's he's gone. He's in Ottawa part of that. Whole sites have see stuff so we'll see we'll see what happens but they're in the playoffs for me? All three of those teams at Toronto definitely could take another step this year and maybe finally get by Boston. Another thing too is they've been drafting and developing pretty well. in the Tron Organization. There could be a couple of young guys who also step up and make impacts I I. I've heard that that demand Nicholas Potanin has had a pretty good camp there. I don't know what type of role he would be up there but I mean seems like it seems like Type Organization Organization where they like those those goods second to third liners in the American League were very responsible unable to you know chip offensively but yet very responsible awesome not take many risks offensively and hey if if he's the type of guy who can skate well back. That's the kind of players babs likes on his fourth line and even the last ended terrible for on my thought one silver lining was the play Freddie and it's a much much better playoffs lasted than did the previous year. I mean that game seven to one going into the third period bruins went up three one and they you got two hundred or so I mean he played great last year. I think that was a concern Wolf. Some people going into the mckinney but I think all the pressure this. This year is on dubious because I don't think he was able to get those guys signed for what what he would have liked. He thought he can be a little lower. I thought yeah and I I mean I would say that he he didn't lose negotiations but I think in the using the word bullied around a little aggressive too he just got the short end of the stick so now he definitely definitely has some work to do moving forward after this year but hey if they can if they can go on to run and win it this year all the pressure's off I mean you locked your core group. Burn and and you know you're overpaying him a little bit and you gotta maybe it will champion joined twenty goals fifty to assess year they might go down a little bit with Barry in the mix here not necessarily the big always offensive guy you know they'll be Barry's out there instead of him or together but still what a season yet need him to continue that and then ah last thing sorry about the Lifson will move on is another question as Babcock is this Guy GonNa stay stubborn when it comes to the postseason and not letting his players play ultimately ultimately at the NHL level and it was mentioned in the Sean Burke interview is you can prepare as much as you want but in who's is it's Sean mcvay okay the coach for the La Rams he said sometimes you almost like he did it for the Super Bowl overprepared and I got away from what like basics games yeah. You know what I'm saying yeah then you're you're. You're questioning yourself and you almost too much so I mean fuck you. GotTa just let the Matthews in the martyr and those guys play them the fucking twenty anyone twenty two minutes especially in Elimination Games and if your best players couldn't get it done then you're blessed best players just couldn't get it done stopped trying to over over think things I mean I remember in that for that final game. I mean although the fourth line did play well. I think Tyler Ennis had just as much ice time as awesome matthews it's like what are you doing yeah. It's almost like like well. We we talk to nick the asthma compare Bowman and Babcock and embiid he didn't use the word micromanage manages base does he over does does it like has to be an every little thing and no you gotta delegate a little bit more so yeah good. That's any celebrity doesn't if it's somebody else's idea babcock stubborn and remember after that playoff offs. He didn't really take any any like any other criticism. You didn't take any of the blame and I'm and I'm not saying necessarily his fault but it's just like as a leader of the team because as as a coach you have to be it's not just the CAP. Is You have to be a leader. You accept a responsibility especially in a situation where it's like. Hey everybody in the media's. He is telling you to play your stars more because that's obvious now you're not doing it to spite us took well fuck or are you a good coach or you just fucking stubborn yeah we have to get commie back his opinion but either way all three of us have the leaps back in the playoffs right Boyce all right next up onto the did not qualify that this division I up Montreal she all they finished with ninety six points new faces in South Them Keith Kincaid a bench nick cousins they said by the Andrew Shaw and Judy Ben Perhaps just missed out in the spotlight only two points out they didn't really make any major moves over the summer and they're in the top division into Kerry priced out at sixty four games last year the most OC status in four games I don't think Clo- Julia that much confidence in Anthony Emmy who had a really rough yeah so he needed to ride price probably more than you want to. He will have kincaid this year. Canadians have a solid if unspectacular Oeste with let's go I well. It was very surprising year. I don't think anyone thought that they'd be in the hunt for the playoffs as long as they were you. Look at what could have been the summer and getting to sign that offer sheet was so big to get forward like down there and for someone to help the power play their powerpoint stinks and you need to have a powerful. I've talked about this since we started Chiklis and they don't have one so the question the ability to try to get him in which he was a great chance but Carolina of course match that one. I think the team is is there like they don't have a game-breaker right like Max. Domi had a six season awesome into tar even with solid but they don't have back that elite upper-echelon player that Toronto Boston Tampa all have even Florida. They don't have a couple of players the panthers have so. I don't think they're going to get in. I know what I'm saying that early but it's still it should be. It should be an improvement from last year in price being as good as he was shows that those injury scares are over. He was dominant again but there's just some things there the question the one player I do love his cotton cockatoo. Niimi came say his name but eighteen last year I mean there were times. He looked at Lee. He looked like he was ready to play a bigger role than already was at such a young age. That's pretty very very like an Emmy so love his game love some of the young guys coming up Petri one of the most underrated defensive and in the League he had he had a monster. It's the season we talked to gallagher. He's thirty in thirty goals. I think two or three years in a row now to there are some skill there are some. It's a tough building plan and with that goal. You'll always be in the hunt but I I'm just thinking that division in that conference overall. I don't know if they could score with a lot of other teams. I mean I I. I like how they're going in one direction. It seems as though they're going for a high flying good skating offense I mean they're not a very big team up front and that would be my concern for them. Going into playoffs is because as much as the analytics and everyone's talking about the game is going to more towards more skill. They have. Oh way different makeup than let's say team. The Saint Louis Blues like I mean look at the top line of Mac stole stole me although he plays bigger than this is Thomas to Tar Drouin Dano Gallagher Shaw these are small guys. I mean the added Nick cousins in the off season I I would say nine of their their twelve fords or under the under the height of six feet right so like I I liked the way they're built built think they work extremely hard together and then it doesn't hurt when you got a guy like Harry price at the back of the net but like you said it's just it's hard for them to to keep up if they can't have more elite scores on their team but they do have some young guys in the team that are set to break out and if that can happen and they can all tug on the rope together. There is a slight chance to get. I'm going to say that this year's not the year. I don't think they're gonNA get in the playoffs. I think they will be close again like they were last year for the teams. We've talked about already already in this division. There's not much change. We talked about very minor things for the most part but you look at Macho then you look at some guys who are going to come up and get chances this Ryan paling American from Minnesota first rounder in two thousand seventeen played in one game last year after college had a hat trick so he's already had a sick preseason look great next edition Games and in the practice sessions. I've been reading about that. That's a first round town upfront. Who Busy talked about the size? He's six three six two so you're looking at someone there that could really come in and what if he's a rookie you can get twenty twenty and twenty be a sick year. That's adding offense. They didn't have last year so there are some really good things there the question being that Weber and price are getting a little older as as they do have some of these young guys coming into when when can they really get to the to become that team that could take a next step compete compete for a cup. Is it going to be four years. Those guys are too old. I don't know it's just not enough depth for me to to get them into the playoffs this year but I think it'll be. It'll be another down under the wire type thing where their fight out into the season. I'm here and not easy to get wins. I'm excited to see Shea Weber again back for a full season. He missed the start of the year last year coming up that knee injury I I think he's set to have a big year at I can't man I when when big trades happened especially with some players at some people like more maybe more than others but like going back to that. PK Sue ban trade. I I don't I don't Crown Nashville the winner of that trade anymore out fucking hyperbolic. All the media were being about Botha like it was the worst trade to go down in. NHL History Shamed Weber is still an a world-class defenseman. He played in fifty games last year. He had thirty three points the guy I mean in a full season I see him easily getting twenty with that shot. He has a fucking cannon rocky shelves Surrey of this generation. Obviously I think he's is a bit little bit more well rounded but no fence sheldon we still love you but this guy is I would say just as good as PK still innocent yet he no yeah it's different things to his gain that may be PK. Does I mean I don't think peak as a bad leader I think he's a great teammate in but shavers also a leader he brings another element that may be PK dozen on a greater level so I mean I both great defense. Don't get me wrong but I think put some respect on my man's name starting the year with him fully healthy as huge like you said he banged up knees is the first time he's coming into a season honor percent basically and he's a monster I I know he's sturdy for. He's still a beast out there. Huge ends the ice and the highest pay forward Jonathan Joy in five and a half million a year for another favorite team you know but he's I think I think this is still some consistency issue down. Tampa looked like he finally kind of arrived. You Know Steve E. Y. Got Rid of them the right time and made the trade I don't I don't know of He's the guy to lead this team. Offensively I mean I'd like to see more of a more consistency. I don't know man like not to knock the guy nothing against him. I just feel like I don't know if he's got that burning desire. I think he's kind of like you know my way or the highway type thing. You said like some days some games he'll just disappear. I believe a few times last year. The media was getting a little bit because he struggled. I mean for what the break Oh look it is Hugh's third third overall pick third overall pick and and I'm not saying that see Steve y Saul Saul what it was in realize hey this is not the one of the guys that we need to keep around because he had to make decisions on scale Guy Tyler Johnson and and you know he probably saw some cracks in his game and he still hasn't improved on those mistakes so right now great move by Tampa. I don't I think he's he's regretting it much. show playoffs not for the Canadians Biz. I say I say no and that's no disrespect to them. I think they have some some moves to make and they're getting getting better when you already said no I said No. I think honestly I mean haven't seen Clo- coach for years with Boston. That guy can get a lot of rosty might not the can and I think honesty Z. Bringing Kincaid I I mean the M E was bad last year in bringing and Kincaid. I think that's GONNA be improvement so they might be able to get better goaltender overall. His price wouldn't have to play as much. I think price can have a big yeah. I get the haves in they would just out last year by a little. I think they just got improve. Somewhat I get in the playoffs. I have this philosophy that like sometimes like stargell carry price like why me I talked to to Curtis Joseph about it because we meet for coffee for a few hours in one thing that he said was he loved being the guy so it's like not saying he would want his backup to struggle but like if NAM Yummy wasn't playing they looked to carry like like yo you gotTa Win all your games last year. Carey price was back to carry price right so I mean I'm not saying that if they can cade in there that that if he's playing playing well it might fuck things up but you know sometimes you know goalies in the back of the mind. A little bit got a little pressure. He's been around. No maybe not a guy you WANNA be fucking. Burn out with sixty sixty five spots if you don't have to so all right I got them going the playoffs you too don't next up team. A lot of people are talking about the Florida Panthers. They finished up last year at eighty six six points lots of new faces in this city share Gabe Brodsky big signing a net noah cherry big on the bottom six Brett Conley Anton Stroman they said goodbye to Roberto Luongo who retired in James Raimo Leff of Patches the one big addition though doesn't wear uniform. That's probably Joel Quenneville him and Del Town. They're gonNA try to recreate some of that midway magic. They didn't Chicago Down in south Florida. Also a whole new tandem inept Bobrovsky obvious thought of the same Samuel Monta Mbo is going to be backing up and that's like they would kill the panthers goaltender all due respect to Roberto Hall of fame and all that but it was a rough year for the panthers net if they got you know averaged a you know better than average golden. They might have been the playoffs show with go do for us with Florida. Don't you boy this is my team along with Dallas where a lot of people are kind of saying. Look what these two are going to do. While I'm on board with both of them I love I love. I love what they've done there and starts with Quenneville the guide knows how to win. He's done it everywhere everywhere he's ever been and now they have a guy behind the bench. There and I think that guy's really liked. What was his name last year all Buddha just drawing a blank here? It's been a long week but now it's just a guy who's been so proven in one Stanley Cups and if you look at Bar Cobb and who I mean that's ninety point guys now and those probably aren't going GonNa Change at all. They had tro check out for a long time. He's sick. I've been saying how long for how long this guy is how good he's been for a long time. I saw him in the HR. The story's been told a million sometimes he's a Gamer. He competes like an animal. Can score can set guys up. I mean I gave for Toronto a hard time with the Bruin. He's got no vision will. He got twenty four last year so he's not going to get you a ton of assessment with that shot. He's going to be able to score yandell on the back in sixty two points probably his best year at a pro. He told me a youth told me if he doesn't and get it. Doesn't anyone suck on that. Everyone and he told me feels great. I think he's going to do another. have another monster season what I really like about the moves there along with Quenneville is that ah they bring in three guys that don't jump out anyone put how good every team that they've been on have been Anton Straw Rahman when he's in New York they were great Ska- was great. The Guy can move. He's getting older but still that's a depth guy that can help defensively. He's not the same player that he was originally eh early in exactly Brett Conley Yeah. Oh yeah that guy was a high pick and it didn't work out at the beginning well now. He's turned into this third player and he kinda put up and down lineup and you could stick them on the third line. No He's pretty good defensively and he'll get you fifteen goals. If not more that's a big addition and then and the other one we talked about when the Bruins came up Chari so now they got that sandpaper and grit and Mackenzie Weigo's enough to worry about fighting them he just has to worry about getting prank by Foley so the team is is just up and coming and and then last year people said they could make the playoffs goaltending Longo. What a career he didn't have it anymore? I think that everyone was kind of aware watching him. He was battling through injuries as he was getting older while Bob Ross key is I said what Ki- said before the hardest work he's ever seen. One of the top goals in the league inconsistency has been somewhat of a factor but maybe he's out to approve that he is true true superstar number one after getting that deal. He's got the business to prove it and one more guy I want to mention is Henrik bork stream so this guy dominated dominated college hockey and last year he was up and down. I mean he ended up playing fifty games. Eighteen points put this is someone that if you talk to people within Florida's always GM oh they ah they're planning on this guy being sixty point. I I'm not saying no not that good not necessarily saying sixty points this year. They're saying he's going to turn into a dominant thirty thirty. Goal Scorer second-line player believed that Matheson Skates like the wind you saw the big deal. He got people were surprised and said he's a Fariq doesn't she doesn't drink rank and he lifts weights for breakfast lunch and dinner. That's all he does with his life where you fucking covered it all I know because I'm fired up for this team and I just think that even if they had add all these pieces and Borowski the addition there you'd still think of like iron all the panthers. It's such a battle. The fans aren't there but Quenneville. Ra You said it's making making an impact with a coach like that Fox trots can get the islanders into the plus. What is coined? We're GONNA do with the skill on this team and apparently he got in and saw Barkov just said Holy Shit. It's fun. It's going to be a fun season and I'm very excited and the one guy didn't mention. I'm sorry keep going. It's often because Hoffman you heard the issues Ottawa offer shit well. There's nothing going on down there beside him. Just sniping boys like to love this club and they are my fourth team from this division four in the metropolitan to make the play. I guess I'll chase it with with I agree. I think they're gonNA make playoffs. That's why didn't have Montreal in as I said you covered most of it they've added so many reasons why I believe either GonNa make the playoffs and you mentioned them the big signings but last year they dealt with some injuries and all they had a bad one with tro check yet Mississippi Picking Games and he's he's How would I compare them to on another team? He's kind of that kind of me ten. Does it all out there. He's kind of he similar like Qadri where he'll mix it up a little bed. He just adds that secondary scoring and he's just he's just a Gamer just finds a way to get it done so if they're able to avoid injury and another thing is they had a lot of third period live gave it up the lead the most in the third period last last year they struggled. They couldn't keep the puck other in that they couldn't get that big. Save and Input Broschi can provide that I think they could even be at the top of the top of that conference offense. That's how much of a swing team has had in momentum yet beige. I'll show you what you mentioned. He's a guy he really found his game in. DC You know he bounced around Tampa to Boston. He didn't do a lot day found his game there and now he's getting paid down in Florida me I think the goal is going to be a lot better to Quinn will factors there. I got the panthers back in the playoffs with this squad. Would you say I said I'm in a bid. What did you say Oh yeah? I got three three on Florida and next up boys with the old Buffalo Sabres at seventy six points last year new faces in town Jimmy Visi Markus Johannesson Call Mila they said Adios to Alexander knee land and this is a team that got out of the gate hot last year until I boy Grenell put the women and they sank like a stone secondary score and I think is going to be an issue for them this year in that they got caught a Hutton. Atlanta's presumably will both get a crack at number one Whitney would he got on the save is Buddy. All Chippewa Street BOFFA lows savers hockey's coming back and people are excited for good reason now. I'm going to be positive about the sabers right now and I'm GonNa give Sabres fans ends. Whoever else is listening reason to really believe deekor? Look d group great depth okay so you're going to look at a team with Dalian who dad rookie season guys that was sick very forty. Four points didn't miss a game. I mean that's an eighteen year old Daemon. Watch this year. It's even better and then you look and risk the line and there's questions you want to be out of there while he's there right now Montauk. I love bringing him over Colin. Miller has a great all you did the play call Silky so he has a fucking bomb bomb no jake McCabe. That's a defensive defenceman. You can add a little bit offense but he's a young player as well twenty four. He's getting a little bit older but you also see that he can make a big impact play in twenty minutes twenty minutes but Gordon's hurt to start the year hopefully he's able to come back and get involved but they do have assault decor much-improved you then look at like upfront and Eichel's been able to do and he continues to improve and Sam Reinhart took that step it. It was a huge season for him to make make believers out of people who maybe wondered. I don't know if this kid can be a an elite offensive player sixty five points without without missing a game you can think that he could step up even a little bit more this year and the other thing is if you look at young is because they're always in with a team like buffalo and the struggled struggled after kind of a misleading ten oh Ron right early in the year. You're going to see new players step in one of these guys. I've already seen the preseason hit two goals the other night Viktor Victor Olson the reason I'm able to talk about him because when I went over to Modo and before my enormous retirement that sent Swedish media into shockwaves I was a teammate of his. I don't know how old he was then. He must have been fucking. It must've been seventeen eighteen then this kid shot is a joke. It's like my Kaufman's whole ruin the best snapshots I've gene so he came up last year played six games four points right so he's going to get a chance to play on one of I think one of the top three lines this year he can score you'll see the questions being when you get to goal well actually the first the first challenge for Buffalo Division so good right to look at these teams. You'RE GONNA have to beat on a regular basis an leapfrog to get into the playoffs so Florida got really good. They improved Thanh while already having three of those top teams Boston Toronto Tampa so the division being so strong really hurts buffalo but they got a new coach Ralph Krueger. I love him. I had the guy in Edmonton. He got screwed over by them when he was fired Ed via skype. The story's been told a bunch of times but he believes in this team. He's a positive thinker. He's going to continue to beyond guys but in a way where they really WanNa play form warm. He's a he's. He's all about positives all about being a family. He'll talk to your straight up about anything and he'll let you know where you stand and let you know what he needs out here. There's no questions coming from players so he's GonNa make a big difference. They've had you know I think with Phil Housley. There was a lot of issues in terms of how the team played the systems while also the lineups and who he chose to use in certain points and then you know as you get older on your star superstar type player. I'm looking at Eichel. I'm looking at Darlene. The League becomes easier year by year in that. I'm saying the travel becomes easier to deal with. You know how to pace yourself. You know how to play against certain players a little bit differently. It's when you're at that top and talent the first and second overall type picks that these guys are every year is a little bit easier so Eichel is going to because I think this will be his fifth year fifth year pro or sixth year one or the other and then darlene second it'll be as V v so the League is going to come easier to these these guys and along with the division being tough. The only other thing is the goaltending so Carter Hutton's trying to prove that he is a number one goalie and Linus ullmark cy young unproven unproven guy so if he gets chances to play he's GonNa have to play well to the division being toughened. The goaltending is what you really look at it in terms of weaknesses in a sense but there's reason to believe if you're a sabers fan alright. I don't know what to say after that which just absolutely buzz. I'm excited this team different team. I'm sure you've got a few notes so I'm good what's up. You guys are snowing stab before the show you guys are fucking often run a man no free ads can London fog and also bringing in call Mila Ella kind of feels like there might be some redundancies on and we've always here Rasmusen Bristolian his name Aristophanes name pop it open trade rumors solo wouldn't be surprised if they can like that and now now you have three puck moving defenseman right so defensemen not defenseman. Excuse me you have to get them involved at all times. Get off the ice and you know you know what kind of similar type of lineup when they when they came in the League was Golden Knights is they had three pairs where they had a guy stand back and one guy getting offensive and that's why they had so much success as they were coming as a five man unit every night and I mean. I don't think they're gonNA make playoffs. I think there's a ways to go there and because they gotta figure out the goalie situation and get a little bit more depth but hey if they end up surprises and people I wouldn't be surprised Yeah Joe L. Hanson he was one of the better Bruins the whole playoff so that was a nice advil hill help like I said secondary scoring their bottom six in particular. That's going to be an issue for them. Also brought in Jimmy Visi who's in a contract contract and other interesting note they have eight pending. Ufa's on that so if you know they're out of it early manual it could be a fire sale in buffalo of end by his last guy. It didn't get mentioned that could be a huge step up type years Casey Middle Stat you saw what he did. In the world juniors you do not often see a player dominate at the world junior level the way he did with the pedigree of his draft and how high and not see them like be very very good. Nhl as he dominated the best players in the world under twenty twenty. I think this year he's nineteen. He's nineteen right now so look look for him. I mean twenty five points. Maybe the famous delighted sixty two line and said he's the worst dresser on the team because all he wears this is Lou straight up high school and risked allied in our apartment came on it wasn't rescinded it was darling I I interviewed him at the NHL Media Tour and had asked him I said was the worst wrestler on the team and he said that middle stats so little little friendly banter between the boys and he's also in the last year his ELC so he'll be looking to hopefully get paid but none of us have the savings region into the playoffs or not a step up but I already have my if my eight Eastern conference teams yeah. It's again a brutal division a lot a lot of top kids. They have to face how many more teams we got. We got two more minutes to more. I know this Zaba Oblast this week. You can hear voices next up. The Old Detroit redwings finished with seventy four points last year a couple of new faces in town Val Terry Fila Bulla Patrik Nemeth Adam earn they should goodbye to Nicholas Krahn well who did retire nothing earth shattering from the wings over the summer. I'm sure Steve You is the master plan but he can't fix things over ninety inherited a lot of this stuff I mean Dylan lock and I can't believe he's only twenty three after him Tyler Tuesay Anthony Mantha and Andre Anthony see you after that though I think they got a lot of depth issues you take a look at the roster. There are some nice pieces like I just mentioned but this is a team of twenty four million under the cap you look at it doesn't look like a seventy seven million dollar Ross dots crazy let's go for as Biswa to the wings going yeah I just I mean it starts now right rebuilt and how quickly can can either Zarman get it done. I will say that when you have a presence like Eisenman walking the halls of your organization and your building I feel like everyone does tend tend to elevate their play a little bit more just because you have an guy look over you. That's been there done that and proved himself so I think they're going to be a hard fighting team. This year. Their coaches is is an excellent coach. very well liked very very intelligent and prepared. I just they just don't they don't have anything and the crazy part about wouldn't they. They also don't have a lot of cap space and you said that already and it's not going to be pretty. I almost hope that they don't do well so they can start getting some assets in draft in in the lottery pick section because they're going to need some help of entry level contracts moving forward here in order to help turn this organization Zeeshan round. They do have some pieces to build around obviously don't Larkin. Who has he been named captain yet? I don't believe so so I mean I mean we're in crazy. Roese Times. We're in looking at a few organizations WHO ARE ICONIC TORONTO. May Police and Detroit redwings are set to name new captains. I mean that's a that's a big thing right so I would imagine he's the guy they pick and as I said earlier the time starts now for Stevie y to work his magic. They said well the DIS the issue they're getting older. Mike Green Ericsson and Trevor Daily you know they're in their mid thirties upfront. You gotTa love a couple of the guys that they've got to be able to build around. That's Larkin Sick Anthony Mantha Anthony. Co had a huge here one of the fastest players in the League in Tyler Tuesday. I love his game love. Oh God people in Detroit telling me how great he is crazy. Co Kid is probably one of the more entertaining palm trees. I just don't know if he's you know he's. He's a bit of a wildcard. He's just kind of doing this thing out there. I don't know how that translate. When does he go hot and cold last year? He was just pretty much hard. I think that the issues that they've had pry with them. We're like attitude type stuff Carlin cockiness. I've heard if you're GONNA play the way he did last year and get thirty thirty. I mean you you. You're going to be able to act a little different. thirty goals scores aren't aren't exactly buzzing around Evanger Kane out there a little bit with that swagger. Are you know I don't I don't think as tough but just saying there's a little body language so they're going to need those guys to keep continue to improve and then their first overall pick from the summer before Selena I don't want this guy needs to be nasty. I I've apparently I mean he played nine games last year three three points only thirty five points in fifty nine. Ahl Games but in junior there was there was domination domination they love when they picked him so he can make a huge step but they they pretty much need him too and then scored fifty goals in the Oh L. D. Cube official year any any lit up a Halifax but the issue being that when you're rebuilding which they are right in the midst of you need those those top AH picks to head they need that kind of turn all I was at the Arizona coyotes. Excuse me viewing party for the draft and we were up was it was it fifth. I believe he picked fifth and fourth auto on Ottawa selected Brady CA chuck in our fan base was rattled because you guys wanted him so next they wanted that's Anina China and we drafted that Barrett hate who was projected. I think eleven at the time and body are fans when like they were pissed and I I'm. I was like what Gotcha I'm like. Why guys they entered? They did the interview process. Spirit Heaton kids the real deal now. I think it kind of took a lot of pressure off of Chaika when so that is Edina didn't necessarily have the best year he didn't dominate the miners so I don't know if this is going to translate his goals from junior into the NHL level. I mean it's still very young but after watching him play against Arizona last year I wasn't overly impressed for a top pick. I mean would you consider a fifth overall. Pick is that considered the lottery taught me. I was a lottery pick fifth overall. I think lotteries top three. I wouldn't mind being called a lottery peck anyway. I just I'm I'm curious to see how that plays out and it was interesting to see that they really wanted them is in charge of it so the guy you want but what still right now it's it's tough times for the Detroit Red Wings fans after so many years of dominance so many years of being contenders. This is what happens in franchises. There's always that that time where every three teams thinks the forty niners don if he has kind of tank couple of notes Jimmy Howard is back in the crease once again backed up by Jonathan Bernier how it is after this year. I'm sure they'll be handful teams conce TV y maybe to pick them up. I mean you never know teams like the guys before the deadline. That'd be Nice Ice Germans policy also with the three defenseman you mentioned Green Ericsson daily. They're all. USA Detroit's playoff position at I consi- and so I would expect a lot of teams to be those are great for sure. Absolutely I mean you just want veteran depth in guys love to pick them up so stevie why that South La start rebuilding through the draft rap either way it's kind of Nice that they have those assets those U. F. As in order to gain assets towards the end of the season that kind of plays into the early stages of a rebuild perfectly so so nice job all right you fucking brilliant man. I don't hear that so often all right so none of us have the redwings go into the playoffs no surprise and last and certainly not at least in the Atlantic the Ottawa senators finish with sixty four point slash lots of changes to this rosters well. They brought in half the maple leaves. It looks like Ron. John Hanes eat Nikita Zaitsev till todd tyler some sorry also brought an item Anisimov from Chicago. They said by Cody See Zach Smith guys the big news for them obvious assembled lock it up. Thomas Shabad was huge for the organization. It sends such a great message to the fans who haven't really had a lot to feel good about lately Craig Innocence Back Thirty eight years old is ten season with the Senate as his numbers the last couple he has dropped off. He's another. Fa who knows if people would knock on the door on him Whitney. Let's go to you first. What are the Senate is going to do this year? Hall man much probably the weakest team in the League if you're looking at the preseason picks and what their rosters has made up I think getting getting Dj Smith over WHO's done a lot of good things in his deservingly getting his first chances a head coach League makes sense. It's just a roster that's also kind unaware Detroit tat in rebuilding and he look at WHO's GonNa lead them Brady Chuck's beasts That's a great pick. He's going to be a monster there. Bobby Ryan's need to have have a good year. I mean he's kind of one of those guys who slowed down a little bit but still has the ability to score these breath-taking goals after that I mean you look at Shebab. What a great signing signing that somebody that will be there throughout until when they hopefully become contenders? It's just how much they lost how much they're going to kind of struggle to create offense being in that division and there's just a bunch of issues that they're going to have to battle through so. I don't think you can expect too much. I don't have a ton on them. I mean you get to see these. She looks from some younger guys but it's just a team that is right in the midst of rebuilding and trying to become a legit. NHL Franchise again but you also the fans being furious at the owner half the time the arena being in where it is makes it for a tough season it looking ahead for the Ottawa senators. There's no other way to put it yeah. There's GonNa be some struggling for a little while here. Losing their top two scores to I mean they did get moved last Asher at the deadline but I mean that's the good news is they do have a few really nice young pieces cross the deal with the demon they got for stoneys filth from Sweden faulk fame and think of his name. I don't even know if he's going to be over there this year but I'm thinking of future possibilities for good things for senators. I gotTa Start Making making some positive moves here and they're headed in the right direction. They just it's going to be it's going to be painful two years yeah it really is and that guy's name a lot. I got to look it up. Eric brands trump so we'll see what happens with him for trump. Pick in two thousand seventeen STUDT demand to go along with Shibata. I don't know if he's over this year but that's at least someone that senators fans are like all right. We have him come in at some point yeah and like like Detroit. They have a handful of guys. We're GONNA fade three four three defensemen that other teams will probably be looking to plot and like I said that's how you rebuild you. Stop talking draft picks on they got two great cornerstones and Chabad and Brady Kachuck after that it's like I need more cornerstone sold trading some of those zag is maybe get some picks. They can start work in the way back but they are ways away so obviously needless to say none of us having the senators in the playoffs any other division not wanna add boys. I think that's all rap I was. 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S. for thirty dollars off your total purchase of three hundred ninety nine dollars or more in incredible deal for made to measure You really have no excuse anymore clothing that doesn't fit all right boys with no shirt for our pick some show we probably way too many teams to make the playoffs because we fucked up every yeah but either way you can have out of people. We're GONNA get tripped all yes so we don't mind Biz. I saw you talk on the day you think the major league baseball playoffs are as good as the the NHL playoffs with you buddy. I got yeah I mean I talk about all the time I got torched online by some hockey fans and I'm just say hey listen for a sport that I don't give one fucking shit about in during the season the minute playoff baseball's on dialed in the TV to me all of a sudden a link between pitches in the crowd noise and I liked Joe buck. There's probably a lot of you don't like Joe Buck. I think it's it's poetry and I love it the intensity the drama it's it's to me. It's a different sport and I do put it on par with with. NHL Playoffs and in and part of it too is because it's not very long either right so keeps you dial then for that one month. What I think is ridiculous? Baseball is how maybe they don't even extended extended a little bit as far as teams making the playoffs but it's such a traditional sport they do not like fucking around with it but the fucking seasons one hundred sixty two games too long to pay attention. It's ridiculous DEF definitely too long. What's up what I playoff baseball and the excitement in every pitch up Washington good night Washington wins a game on the road? Is that Jacob Verana. Yes Jacob Verana last night. I said to Mikey I said. What do you like for some sleeper deeper guys around the league this year? He said Jacob Rana Jacob Rana's GonNa have a monster year. I told my Buddy Carthage that then all of a sudden any said rupee hints and then he said I got tenure. It's going to be a monster with Malcolm so in the next couple of games hints scores for Dallas and go Chechnya gets unprepared for Brunelli Arts all right so strong with Verana not up our gambling corner welcome back fo line Jesus who Jesus who he hasn't he hasn't come in for me yet. He's one already yeah all in one might prop bet yeah take a look. I haven't seen the line jet 'cause they. Don't come out usually too late night early morning but one game jumps out at me Thursday night October Third Montreal Canadian Etienne's opening the season in Raleigh. I'm going to assume that carry prices getting the Stott. probably Pete Them Raza Carolina either way. I like Montreal on the road. I like the money line and park line that probably going to be chipped. Gallon is GONNA be a small favorite so you should get a plus place plus price on the Canadians gins no pun intended not to mention on the pipeline laying a goal and a half it might be the alternate puck line on your site depending on what we say how they operate but they're probably going to be at least plus two fifty. Maybe eighty so I'm on the Canadians Thursday night alone. Pick right now. I could add some on twitter later. During the day Thursday my solo pick Thursday eight for the Yemen Corner Montreal Canadian's hotline in Money Line of Carolina also too. I I have had a few people ask me if they WANNA make some bets online. I don't do online wages anymore and you can thank the philly deadbeat and yeah ever paid you Hashtag non all fly. Oh Yeah that written down on my notes thought he signed off of it and then he he didn't send the other he sent me he was a thousand dollar play and I've I've made lots of bedroll with the the people in this kid he he gave me a couple hundred and I was hounded on my buddy. I don't WanNa fucking dot George like that like what the fuck he just gave me the runaround typically typical getting it this one getting out one and last shoots fucking texts. He hasn't replied and I didn't like you rat. What's his name I do? I didn't send his hands out but people dug it up so you can find that people found that already when I said he was a deadbeat like come people listening scumbag. You didn't pay up so yeah basically pay abets Y- ah I mean he was you know he's the one who fucking Chirp Todd and fucking me and whatever like I said it is other people have paid but that's that's worse than going to the bathroom and the Bill uh-huh Oh and crew agree on that yes absolutely I did it. I did worry would you. Would you have blue light at them would you you have say five hundred good enough. No no absolutely not now blue lights blue lights. That's something that rich guys on the planes team planes do when you're in the real world real gambling Amblin not it's like you pay what you know. That's not true. It's not true if I if I want if I beat Grenell for one hundred dollars even fad kyle blue light. I'm a little he's down around my fucking big. I mean at the All Star game if you down if you're not even a person yeah I don't analyst just I'm just old. School was raised low old school book way like You you win. You collect you lose your pay like no love that nobody gets that about you. Are you just fucking dump. It don't better if you don't have that type Shit and one note so basically you're saying you're to break legs and say nothing impala fucking. There's a live line by the way just go bug check before just don't say regret no one other quick note on gambling and I've said it before for the first two months of any job when you can get crushed. It's a very dangerous time. The BET everybody thinks one team's GONNA ZIG ZAG whatever I I've gotten murdered bad october-november many times and then shut me up for for the rest of the wind show tread lightly. I don't go too crazy finale. What's up brother? We're also going to riposting all gambling corners on our youtube page so subscribed there. We're going to be posting sons of video content on that throat. The whole sees me weaving. We've been posting like two or three videos a week so subscribed there. That's the that's one of the best ways to get all of our content and and the more support we get on our youtube page. In the the more the numbers go up. We can go to sponsors and say hey can you sponsor this type of content so we can push it out to you guys. 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Is that legit like that's Kinda like I know it's a little better than what they've had in the past but but I wasn't sure this person said that Green Day would sell out like a an arena national arena right already stadium stadium just a forty or if they did thirty to forty shows at places like the garden and the United Center and all the ranks would they would they. You think think that's accurate they'd sell that. I was shaking his head. I mean I have no idea and snow who would know that is the people who do the cover songs of them in the office. They would know how big green days following that that's an interesting question. A huge key can yeah yeah would win wanting wanting a bigger than blink one eighty two the same green day. I woke up above blink. One Eighty two green day was like the whole new like what they called pop punk that whole kind of invasion going with Yoga Green Day would be be blink one eighty two and then they kind of not obviously didn't invent punk fuck rock but they kind of had that pop punk sound which I mean they were known as the first wants to kind of go mainstream with it. Yeah no effects ain't down are they down with green. Day is Dow agree. I think no effects is an old school like punk band where they are like Raleigh. The actual punk rock like some forty one is is punk pop Agra Levin. She punked pop jask in the wrong guy. I know one thing though Biz pop punk rock in general is fed by anger in rebelliousness and being pissed off right right Whitney you and rigs golf matches must not feeling angry and wanting to make some punk rock music free ten thousand dollars already spent down the drain so people aren't aren't so the Portnoy Rake Holy Fuck are these dumb. It's like Dave is just the master of making content data nothing the matches canceled because the guy I see that gives me Lessons Golf Swing Swing Instructor Sean Hester everyone check them out I mentioned before if you're in the Massachusetts area wonderful coach great swing guy he said to me after my buddy and I qualified for the US four-ball hey you you might not be able to play in that match for ten thousand bucks the US GAAP. They're they're what I know about the US. J.'s kind of what I've been told by SEAN is that they could be sticklers right. They're very they're they're. They're up to the data all the rules that govern the yes similar the governing body of golf like and so I was like really like I don't know carries carries. You never know man like you never know so. He made a call he made a call and talk to someone and then came to me and said listen. You should probably like call the sky and explained I mean because I didn't have all the details of what this actually is so I call this guy up and the whole time I'm like I really like you sure is like yes. I'm telling so if you ended up playing in this thing and this was a big deal and you made ten thousand dollars and then there's gambling lines on websites and stuff. He's like they easily. It could be like hey you can't play in the four. You're not an Amtrak anymore there that kind of uptight I've been writing me messages that you'll hit like a Putt at a alternate alternate for ten grant and like people end up getting their amateur status takeaway just crazy crazy happenings with the USDA and taking people's amateur your status away after talking to this guy for like thirty minutes. He basically didn't give me a straight answer as to what was allowed and what wasn't he said said that there it's in the spirit of the game. There was all these different words and kind of I was like all right well and he had some questions. I didn't know I was like all at least this Bozo Kid can explain it more and more in more better terms. They ended up talking in the end. The Guy Pretty much said I couldn't play. I've never actually been told I couldn't play but it was yeah. You better not like you can't get like a straight answer in a sense all right well this. I I agree with you on the fact that these guys are going to try to stir up any type well no so I didn't tell them so. I didn't tell them that I was the one who called now. I called because I was told told by a guy really trust in a close friend with Sean like to call it made total sense not GonNa put myself and my partners tournament in jeopardy and risk not getting to play the Ritz at any brand fucking no one I was the one who called but he's an idiot so he's a he's actually that kid is such a loser so on assuming when you originally explain explain the story you were just glancing over all the back end stuff because it would have been too long to say all those on the range with my Guy James like I was going after the US. It's all your fault like dude. Dave still doesn't understand I. I had to call the whole issue being when I called they still said I couldn't play so it's like the the decision they made is the annoying one that I disagree with the fact that I brought it to them or sean brought it to them. First and then I talked to the guy was what I had to do so now they're trying trying to just swing it. They're just trying to. They're trying to bully old white guys trying to boy auger out. I'M NOT GONNA stand for it. They need me on their radio. Show they need. They need the ratings ratings that I can bring with our loyal Chiklis listeners and they're just trying to make a story that you brought it to their attention dude. I was told by a guy really trust to do that. I mean I don't know what you want but yeah I mean we're talking about. Banville Riggs Riggs couldn't even sniff ever like qualifying for anything you. He got imagined listen. He gets to rub rub your face in a little bit because he knows now you can't do it and he gets to save himself. fucking money. I mean maybe would have made a a little bit endorsements but nonetheless and what was the last thing that was that was mentioned. I'll play him after I don't care. They're all and I'm assuming that if you would've been in an event where it was just you probably would have still played because now we're the right and the other thing is like people like one tournament who cares I played hockey my whole life and to stay competitive. I'm actually so lucky that I found golf. I'm very competitive person. I love it. I've spent the last eight years pretty much going from a pretty Shitty Golfer to a pretty decent golfer and now I played in the Mass M Putin that we met I played in a bunch of tournaments. I wouldn't be able to play it like it's not about me Portland. You don't win. The tournaments commits so a fuck you talking my string together. I'm better at golf and either one of portly a rigs are any any sport they've ever played and I made thirty million plane station. I'm better at Golf. Then rigs was at hockey take about that and they just started toying for the most part. It's like like he'd doing their whole line of like you don't win. Any of these tournaments do like what a loser like Perot. You know how many golfers are out there. I'm just I'm happy. I'm qualifying for these these tournaments you idiots and once again you never know you might just put a few holes together fucking win. One of those things exactly who's to say eight five years. If I keep improving that I won't end up winning something someday God knows that Gozo walk with anything. You've seen his swing seen this this guy is anyone like he has these videos that are so better two thirds for cooking on dude. I'm like Bro. I'm clicking on. I'll laugh at you like yeah. You get clicks. You get paid paid good for you. You'd think they care you make money. I have millions more than you will ever. Have I click on him to watch your terrible swing and your awful antics and you China talk off like that more on that fucking midget like I call them on the radio. I actually hate both of them. I used to like gave. I've always hated rig able a hey dave had a nice hand going. We're Fox yet because he's sitting in a tanning bed like fucking lady from something about Mary is GonNa have a dog like our to Magda Magda Portnoy K. What else is there to talk about the actually I I I was gonNA say like fucking talking about golf? I was thinking Danny Noonan in like he's in that show Kevin Bacon. Did you watch that city on a hill with no. No you know what I never got into. It kind of seemed like the Boston accents as doesn't you know good was Maradonna the other night. Oh Oh I haven't seen it already. Put a tweet out and it was to remind everyone that last night which was Tuesday night. Hbo Sports did a two hour hour fifty minute documentary on Diego Maradonna right away. I went in and recorded it then our text group chat guys. This is going to be sick Holy Shit this is the Beatles Beatles and the rolling stones combined. Was this Guy Biz. He was this superstar I I. I hope everyone goes and watches. I didn't know anything about them. Besides that he was soccer legend from our he could have killed somebody and knock on appraise he's assigned to his team in Naples in the Italian league and shows up the first day to sign the contract in triple ball in the center field the places sold out there lighting off fireworks people crying seeing him and some of the clips the old school clips the Games like those those it looks like what the seventies seventies all my own Secretary Ryan senior aren't old camera the like the camera angles Ios and like the how good he was God. He was fun to watch. It's funny how the technology got so much better than the cameras. All the fucking play was unbelievable. It was stuff stuff. That guy was was doing what you just like Holy Shit yeah he was like if you're not familiar Diego Maradona he was sort of like the connective tissue I guess between Palay who was a superstar those fifties and sixties the most famous player in the world then Maradona came and then you kinda lead into like the Damasio on Shaq Shaq really popular in America like base in the nineties but Diego Maradona was the best in the world and he was a fucking savage off the field is crazy. I mean it's the biggest sport in the world right. Yeah I mean that and to be the best that you're essentially God especially from. If you're from a country where that's Matt fucking mad place yeah that'd be like being Connor mcdavid can laugh at times tent yeah yeah well and you're and you're probably making times ten now. Oh Yeah my wife is not much much of a sports fan and I was like watch us as many she was like is this like she couldn't believe that there was an athlete that people were act. It was like Michael Jackson it it was it was crazy so I recommend that to everyone even if you're not a soccer fan you'd like this in this guy was an animal or used to law off right already rip it. Oh yeah yeah he was holy Shit Dude lunch king lines how many years that he did he rain as best player in the world or was decline really quick note wasn't that a quick man. I mean like ten years probably soccer's a tough tough sport to do it for a long time. Oh my God sniped by Sorensen three goals in the first ten minutes. I had the over so yes sorry about that. Just got sidetracked yeah I think it was a pretty long reign but soccer's tough to do it for over ten years and the the amount running net isn't it. It's tough. I mean a guy like Rinaldo can because he's a freak. I don't think he's ever drank alcohol. Everything is about soccer die. Everything you can name whereas Madama was fucking rippin lines. He's probably ripping them in the locker room. The in you know going down the best shed in the world. I mean if I can walk no. I don't know stuff's not even stumped on Varga. I'm the director I say a SIF Kapadia a potty. He's in unreal documentary director. I was texting what last night he all he also directed a documentary called Senator About Formula One Racer Eric Insana. I never heard of the guy until I saw this documentary in and to me like if you could make a documentary about a subject like you decide what your wife isn't a big sports person and she loved it. This guy makes unreal real documentaries. He'll take a subject you might not care about and you'll fucking care about. He also directed one on Amy Rhinos to simply tiled Amol while I didn't know there was a doctor and on her yeah. It's very sad but it but it's it's a real deep dive man it was this guy does unreal box so I love your house occurred shoes. Yeah excuse have is it. No no now store lady Gaga coming up same time I think I think they were in the same magic. Thank the tragedy from England. England Hughes shoes like opiates opiates like ended up shoes more of an alcoholic than issues. She did stuff but alcohol is alcohol poisoning with whatever drugs drugs in this whole lunch drink which our main thing I think she did the other shit would she was drinking but it's a sad documentary but it's definitely worth watching on her life because she was a generational original talented. It's a shame that we always as a as a Canadian and I'm sure you guys will agree. I have to mention and congratulate Bob Mackenzie on a five year contract extension with in high what the Bob father done this year so just signed a five-year extension well I thought he was actually done because he wanted wanted to retire after this year not like chasing my guess and the thing I saw was that he had one more year and I thought he denounced he one way or not like that that was one more year left on his TSN N. Deal He. He said he had one more year and then now he's going to start to like wind it back after this year. He said he saw Moore the insider stuff. You won't be doing like call the draft basically retiring. I mean Fuck Dude. How old is he now? Not that old when you're when you're man when you're doing that long you never rank rank. You never really get a vacation in the summertime when he says 'cause he's gotTa keep up with all the information and he's got to be the one to give it to him and he's gotTa like present it well on television like he's a freak man. Yes great. He's going to do another five six sixty three Oh man that's fucking exhausting boys. I'm I'm already looking at my exit strategy here. This is tiring shit yeah. I got like six months left. Come on give me a couple of give me a couple. Oh years give us. Thrash thought. I actually thought the other night I make if I quit Chiklis on like wide went Moore. I'd kidnap wrap your family. Those things I answered it as you guys would have me. I I think in a month that would just be a rip roaring machine with somebody sitting in my place. I don't think it would be changed very much. I'll say this I mean if we had someone who is eager to create content and do other shit. I Yeah I might blow up a little bit. I I mean but but I think it's good balance. I think it's about a year the fucking best storyteller thanks guys. Thanks guys I appreciate that I was just looking for an entire pump all right by the way it's been a long one. It's been a long week so you say it's time to wrap it up. Guys odd. There might be one more thing here something written down Phil Kessel four games for thousands so he's shit unless he calls it quits at their three-game so fell. It's up to you buddy diz banging in sick that day Unai pass the hat that everything written down with no I I got used at another time I got I got a fun fact interesting stat for opening night on. NHL Rosters most Canadians Saint Louis is leading the way with Sixteen Bagasse Fifteen Islanders Fifteen Fifteen Edmonton Montreal fourteen fewest Boston Bruins only five New York Rangers five Washington Capitals Five Jersey Minnesota and Arizona Zona also all at six so just a little fun fact candidates. They'll do when the cup last year sorry they did have eighteen Canadians on the same so keep the fucking could change your welcome Saint Louis all right. Everybody have a great weekend then we'll check back with you Monday in the first week of the NHL for listening as always everyone love have you guys piece out and a special thanks to sponsors without you guys man we would be able to keep dish machine Rollin so please as our listeners support our sponsors. If you WANNA check out tell on go to one PELETON DOT com the Promo Code is hockey Kenai brands. You want to check them out. Promo Code Biz twenty want