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"hellier" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Of historical. What did he actually claim to have? Experienced is really a huge gap. But they're definitely leaning into the Spooky version For the series. Even though they definitely talk about it as a contact he'd type thing so you talk about the contact he that he has family and that he had a house and he might have actually been a something person but they're also leaning heavily into as you said entered cold the spooky from the movie who Kinda get mixed with this whole notion that Keel talks about of the grinning man. Yes yes sort of a pro slender man very much. So yeah yes absolutely. And so in that sense. He knows things he shouldn't be able to know he can appear. He apparently could just walk past security. Show up in your house and talk to you. What surprises me is in addition to throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks within Hellier Bay. This doesn't stop even like a disco in in this version of injured. Cold that they present they give you the it's real. It might still be going on and also they actually show footage of John. Kill saying that. He thinks what he. Dan Berger was a pathological liar. So it's like they're they're covering every spectrum of the of how you might Turpin this. It's absolutely made up. It's absolutely real. It's paranormal supernatural. It they they throw it all out there and they never really they throw it all out there without pygmy. Were actually sort of joking when we were. We were discussing this. That and I don't mean this in a negative sense I maybe. I don't know that this is almost an anti investigation. Where if an investigation is meant to narrow down options until you only? Have you know the wet when you eliminate the impossible whatever remains however improbable is true? If you're doing that as it goes everything becomes increasingly possible. Have you guys ever read Gently Soliciting Detective Agency? I have no absolute connectedness. Things every this is this is like somebody is lar- ping that without the comedy. Yeah Yeah Yeah I actually I wrote. I wrote reviews season one of my blog when it first came out and I actually basically the main criticism was that it was just a brady bad investigation because it didn't actually reach any conclusions. They just created more kind of Mo- mystery by which I would almost say this is almost the purpose right. Exactly what we thought was a bug is the feature. Yeah Yeah so you asked about injured cold. You also asked about Terry wrist. Which yes. That's what it sounds like ladies and gentlemen so in the documentary. They do say that somebody who claims to have known this Terry says it's it's pronounced right least Terry biased coaching job. At I think I would agree with you. That's coming from. I'm holding my copy. It's very thin. The secret cipher of the nuts revised edition by Alan Greenfield ways in. I think this is literally. And there's Cleveland Stuff added. It's ninety two pages and at the end. Chapter Twelve interview with Terry are wrist or rice but in Nineteen ninety-four. It feels very difficult to believe that is not a pseudonym where Alan Greenfield so most of this book and I have tried to understand it and I will point now that people like Aaron Gulia have recently said who are far more contact d. And An occult than I am maybe Sorta like I am trying to understand it myself so I feel comfortable saying Whoa. Whoa WHY is happening? So it the secret. Cipher has numerology. It has it's a lot of numerology. Kabbalah and other aspects of the Western culture dish in an Giang Keel and contact. He's but at the end. There's an interview June. Twenty th okay. I just realized this June twenty four. I literally just realized this. Today's not June twenty four but this interview is with Terry Wrist on June twenty four which is Saint John the Baptist Day but it is also the day that Kenneth Arnold saw flying saucers styles. Music did sorry. No no no I think. That's very appropriate. Oh Yeah Haley you have a lovely TV theme voice and also John Keel said. It was the day of the year most likely that you would see things like the. He's statistically broke that down and it's this it's this it's this let's see one about five page or four page interview with Terry. Our risk the law the Battle of conquest section presented previously which is again getting into the LAIMA and whatnot Alister Crowley. Oh you mentioned. You mentioned numerology Could so my understanding. That's where you take each letter the alphabet and assign a value to it. So you can like then numerically. Figure out the value of words and use that for divination purposes or or other things it also involves diagonals and Kamala and early. Modern alchemy shore. Who put the alphabet order? I deny it always seem weird to me. It's like people who say at a certain time midnight's witching hour three. Am which will. What time zone are you in? How this an arbitrary human system? I don't understand why anyway. Okay sorry May I don't Know Golf. That's an that's an American. Wow you know what I'm talking about. Blake right. I isn't that like the Sunday morning. Nation yes yes. Yeah yes and Goliath eighteen sixties and seventies claymation with gum. Yeah you like even or wasn't evangelical methodist but yeah yeah it might have been Lutheran. I'm not sure I think you may be right. I think you may be right but anyway this interview with Terry Wrist talks about basically it is is Allen Greenfield going back and forth and this is textual it says it is recorded in our most recent encounter June twenty-fourth nineteen ninety four but it's all about. Ufo's and things under the ground and Brown Mountain North Carolina. Which shows up repeatedly in Hellier. And this Terry wrist figure so I'm going to read a section on before you do. I just want because people desperately trying to know yes. It was Lutheran. Okay you may continue Terry wrist and exactly I gather as we were by then. We were in a kind of cavern. Only I'd say artificially hollowed out illuminated by a greenish glow. Diffuse not from a single identifiable source. Anyhow the whole area resembled shavers will come back to that. Less exotic subterranean story descriptions and in more recent terms some of the modern alien base stories. We were confronted by these small. Greyish beings humanoid only in the technical sense one of our guys said Darrow and started shooting. He had an m one rifle. If I recall one shot and the little grey beam was illuminated in blue and was just gone then there was a sound and I felt my own gun an M16 get unbearably hot. As I dropped it turned to run and was confronted by two of these little gray skin guys with a net. Whatever had convinced me my rifle was had apparently not my focused on my pistol a vintage Luger and one of the net holders receive the last surprise of its life it kind of exploded and the other one dropped the net and ran up the slope with me suddenly in pursue when we got behind the area though it was just gone. I heard gunfire and explosions behind me and that godawful home and then I continued pistol in hand looking around wildly to go back the way I came only three of us ever made it back to the surface. One of them died a year or so later of leukemia. I think it was only about twenty four twenty five. So maybe there's a connection. I think there's always this. How far does JEB go before he turns it Alex Jones? That's true that's us. I've ever heard any of that. And that's just that's ridiculous. Yep these guys are going on about Fighting Antediluvian. Civilization under the earth with their with their late nineteen seventies eighties weapons. You say ridiculous but that's just because you weren't in the Shit Haley. You weren't the shit you don't know if you were in the NAM you just don't know. Oh yeah okay. I'll remember that Allah real my criticism back in. I just have this picture of like a Butterfly Net. This thing running around with like a butterfly and is trying to catch a human short jump up in the air. Yeah exactly I love that image. I think it's also crossing over with your recent animal crossing interests. Oh my gosh yes. This is really weird for this news. We've been talking outside of the podcast about this episode recording it whilst we've been watching Hellier and I've got the new animal crossing game and there have been several parallels in animal crossing and researching Hallier including catching things women that I met Like an elemental last night and I've been fishing out. Tin Cans from the sea and tin cans are actually huge feature in Hellier. Let me also add that while reading your post about finding a tin cans in animal crossing listening to an unrelated show from twenty fourteen. The people on the show said the words animal crossing in the completely landlady contact. So yeah synchronicity is is where you find it the better. Your brain is finding relations between things and remembering those things the better in the more likely origin fall into synchronicity. Blake. That's a sink. Yeah Yeah exactly. Across both seasons of Hellier they use like a really weird array of different techniques. Tarik hard readings to determine the course of their investigation free to something called the SS method. Which is of the room to Against vowed meets the ghost box so methodology they rocky mountain hands filled right or is that what we were with Yasser. Do we want to talk about sort of the division that there's kind of two groups meeting in their team one from one place one from the other? Yes so you've got overstate Greg and Dana. And then they meet up with I think his Carl and Kana right and then they added Tyler season two right. He wasn't unseasonal flea season one. But he's he's not as prominent as isn't season to know exactly and I think it's the guys that came from. What's the her tackled stunning hotel? Stanley Stanley yes. They used to run the ghost events. That didn't I and they are the ones who devised the estes method. It's from estes Colorado. If I remember correctly it is part. Yeah and it's basically like a ghost box device which scans the frequencies picks up random noises from different broke costs and But the difference is that you have someone who's a blindfolded and noise cancelling headphones on and the device the skipping through the channel is being played into that is at the they are just saying out loud. What they hit but not hearing questions that the people are asking so light someone might say. What's your name? And they wouldn't hit them say that but then maybe on the device it would say Michael Seven. Let that go sox now. I used to have a go spokes but I got really bad radio signal. Where live so? I just throw away because it just never picked up anything. I had a broke. I had broken radio in my truck but are replaced it I I bought. I bought a ghost box last year for a course on investigating the paranormal that I teach and it's loud and it gives a lot of information so I cannot imagine being hooked up to it for forty minutes with sensory deprivation and yet that is what we see on screen. It'd be known. Isn't that if you listen to the ghosts at night they speak more Spanish just interesting. I guess that's an American thing it is it is we have a lot of Am radio bleed over from Benesch speaking.
"hellier" Discussed on MonsterTalk
"Around point pleasant West Virginia which is right on the border with Ohio and in his near. Kentucky's it's not on the border continues. Close this starts to get I think that there has been relevant of an Apple Lakey in Appalachia. I always say Appalachian and I know that's wrong sort of so hail hail you're you're in the UK and your your england-based right. That's right Yup. And while there's this whole notion that the British isles have all these haunting and whatnot. There are certain areas like Cornwall like the quote Unquote Celtic fringe. That in the nineteenth to twentieth century there is a huge amount of interest in documenting them folkloric because they are considered to be maybe different than England and there's a lot of ideas of spirits and folklore and ferries with without Appalachia. Kind of has that in the. Us cultural context. Okay and I would say that the fact in fact if you go watch so one of the things about Hellier. This was not on the discovery channel. This was not on history. This was not on any any corporate channel. They put this out on Youtube and on Amazon prime for a little bit but then on Youtube in other words they've been doing this independently which I think is very interesting. We may come back to that if you go to the youtube videos and we can link to these can easily find them yourself and you look at the comments so many of the comments here are. I am from this area. This area is weird. This area is where the veil is thin. This is an area where strange things happen. Unlike the rest of the country. Yeah and I think that is something that has specially developed sense the Mothman Prophecies. They they a movie. They adapted the book by John Keel into a fictional film. I think two thousand and two starring Richard Gere and Laura Linney and Blake. You've you've interviewed the screenwriter. For The Mothman. Prophecies fell yes. Yes that's Richard Hatem and not only have I interviewed him. We've also had drinks together of fun Guy But yeah he actually got to meet John Keel and he. He found the the book I believe if I remember correctly like just in the used bookstore and picked it up and read it was like Oh Wow. This is great and it is a great book. It is I I've heard I mean it's just a really enjoyable read it. I think I've learned since reading it that it's less of a true and factual accounting of what happened in the Ohio Valley at time and his own peers have called it In cold blood in cold blood of the paranormal but I would call a Gonzo journalism. Yeah but so lightly fictionalized but then a lot of his life wise. I mean like we talk about him as a paranormal investigator. Some people think of him as Ufo investigator but really his whole life. He was researching in searching for magic and called himself a demon knowledge EST so kills First Book. Je do or Jay do is is his search in the Orient as he would have put it at maybe at that time Going to Asia. Look for the last places where magic might still exist which we're talking about disenchantment Max Vaber the idea that the industrialization and rationalization as white magic from the world by so first off Keel centering on point pleasant West Virginia although he groped a lot of things from the New York area in nineteen sixty seven creates what becomes this notion that many things are connected where you have bigfoot sightings and UFO's and Weird Birds and Mothman in men in black and all of that so first of all there's that aspect that he is a philosopher of the paranormal that becomes incredibly influential in the two thousands but secondly his book screen adapted by Richard. Hatem is turned into a two thousand two film that I think is pretty good. It feels like a long and somewhat philosophical episode of the x files. But I recommend it that kind of kicks off a whole micro community or or maybe not micro around point pleasant and around the moth man to wear now you have and I have tried to go the last couple of years. And just things like booked a hotel booked things and I've had to cancel last couple of years in early September. The Mothman Festival in town of I think point three to four thousand people attracts fifteen thousand people for. It's absolutely huge festival every year. Like this is this is Roswell level or bigger and when Blake and I have gone to cryptic con the last few years in the Kentucky area. Were you see a lot of these people including the new irks? It is clear that Mothman is a huge deal. In fact we literally see that in some of the visual evidence in the film or whatever in the series. It started out the whole thing. Isn't it every episode as some kind of ICONOGRAPHY relating to kill but specifically relating to the Mothman creature all over it and they mentioned it they mentioned? No I met this person there is become sort of a regional thing and I think it has become the sort of the high ground of this notion of a an enchanted in haunted Appalachia and especially West Virginia. And this has only been exacerbated by pop culture in the last few years with the video. Game I think it's fallout seventy six. Which is an open world video game which is set after one thousand? Nine hundred fifties nuclear apocalypse. Which doesn't resonate at all right now. And and in it The moth man point pleasant the flatwoods monster and other sorts of folklore of West Virginia are prominent and this has attracted a whole bunch of young people to a lot of these ideas. And I think that that is part of the cultural background of Hellier. Sea mentioned that this idea from Kale Lots of different kind of Sa- phenomena can interconnected is that the paranormal unified field. Theory comes from so I created the the acronym puffed for three. I'm absolutely not the first person to talk about the idea of the unified field theory or unified something in fact it even mentioned in healthier so I'm not I'm not claiming that but it's a thing I've been working on and I and I have put some definitional and inbetween putting classes online and you know one of the horsemen riding. I've been a little busy recently as we all have. But it's something I'm working on and and I can't get into all of this but I personally and I've talked about this elsewhere like this is not the first time I've talked about this and I also have an imprint. To some degree that there has been a movement started by people like John Keel like Jok Valet at one point although now is not a fan of it drome Clark Loren Coleman of these other people that have since moved away from this in some degree. An owner Stan Gordon western Pennsylvania a nineteen seventy-three and whatnot. Basically pointing out that. If you start to talk to people about UFO's if you don't limit your questions to oh well. What did you see in the sky that you thought was an alien? You will also get. Oh also I saw. Bigfoot also saw an orb. Oh Yeah I was abducted by aliens but also my deceased relative was there and they were part of this in the spirit. World was part of it. All these things overlap dramatically when you start talking to people and that has only grown and yeah and this might be a good point. Let me let me inject that. This may have always been the case but the people who are researching Vo Stories might have omitted this part of the story. That didn't comport. Yeah so I would say they purposely. Have I mean it? Was it for quite a while in abduction communities that you know there was there was a lord that if you did religious rights while you thought you were being abducted would end which suggests that sort of a demon -nology and we know that there are abduction est who did not include that in their books right. That's that's it's that filtering that I think is we. What we don't know is how many of them left out. What and so by doing so they give you the what you might think of the nuts and bolts view of you. Ufo's back at the time but at the same time that that was going on we had like the the contact ease which were much more of a spiritual kind of view and so. I think what we're seeing. Here is a a more intentional break down those barriers maybe the barriers only artificial in the first place but Hellier is just blowing them all away by mixing every Artif- icial of one of the things I find fascinating. Is this notion of Window Areas. Like point pleasant like a San Luis valley like a skin Walker ranch where you have all of these things together. The thing that seems to join them all is oh. An investigator goes out there and is willing to listen to bigfoot. Ufo PSYCHICAL WEIRD ARCHAEOLOGY GO. S- whatever and once they're willing to listen to all of that all of a sudden the the reports flood in I am personally of the opinion that a window area is a roughly blank number of miles radius around investigator. Yes I was GONNA say. I think it's is quite interesting when these things are reported because it does depend only investigates a witch phenomenon is anchored to which so I was conference a few months ago where somebody spike about Jim Big fit and mentioned how old phenomena is often seen when bigfoot surround. But that may be a grocery satcher someone who's more Drawn to doing garage search would say that all phenomena is the main phenomena and it attracts other things too so even then the way that it's reported by that investigate Massively influence how is recorded in Pasta. Oh absolutely there's a fantastic book and I'd have to go look up the name of the author it's A. I think it's Matheson could be wrong about that. But we can fix on the show notes in the late. Nineteen Ninety S. I think nineteen ninety that pointed out that depending on which of the major alien abduction people like the researchers you talked to. The abductions came out differently. Like if you talk to John Mack. The aliens were all warning about ecological apocalypse and they were from the imaginable realm. But if you talk to Budd Hopkins they were Clo- they were cold clinical medical experimenting cloning aliens but if you went to and so on that no I it is. It is very much through Lens. Yeah I don't really have much to add to that extent. I kept thinking the whole time. That hellier takes these windows to the Max. Surf route the series series. One end to there are a number of characters not characters people. I think that some of the are real people in someone's story but in Hallier there are a number of people who are mentioned a lot. So Terry wrist is mentioned a lot and injured code for people who might not be familiar with them. Does anybody want to break down who they are and how they might be connected to this? Blake? Do you WanNa take injury cold. I do WanNa pick him hard. I WanNa take him often. No this took a turn been stuck at home to long okay. No seriously lockdown so injured colds really interesting to me so I had not read the Mothman Prophecies when I watched the Movie Really Really Mothman prophesies. The book is the thing that like in my teens. Sort of like I have been interested in paranormal stuff for a long while. And then I was like It was the thing that revived me. A lot of ways weirdly muffins covered in so many paranormal and crypto zoological books. I felt like I knew the character are the monster or the story and so when I watched the movie. Oh my gosh injured. Cold appears in the film as this dark and mysterious cosmic figure it's really notre terrestrial on terrestrial and I love the way it's presented. It's so well done. I really like a lot and then I read the book in. I was like This doesn't sound like the same thing. And that's when I discovered that injured cold fits much more into the sort of contact e world of friendly humanoid aliens who are going to tell us how to save the planet. He's a loss guy from Liangelo so if I remember yeah a planet where clothing is optional. And it's like the it's technically that's the same one that could be Panera. Craving technically is optional. Head to technically. But we do have laws about it I mean the idea's there above all that so it's It might. It feels like a so. There's a book written by Woody Durenberger. The Guy who's at the heart of the that story and remember who there is an XP of in the Mothman Prophecies movie. Yeah exactly and they talk to his daughter in Hiliary so injured cold comes up a lot and I get the feeling that the cold that they're they're alluding to is more like the one in the movie but they do talk about the the sort of primary source which is visitors from landing yellows in. It's the it's this narrative about the burgers contact the experience and it's a really really interesting story. It feels very much like a nineteen fifties staying. It feels like a optimistic and a planet full of hope and Utopia and so did the disparity between the Muslim prophecies. Movie version and the sort of historical. What did he actually claim to have? Experienced is really a huge gap. But they're definitely leaning into the Spooky version For the series. Even though they definitely talk about it as a contact he'd type thing so you talk about the contact he that he has family and that he had a house and he might have actually been a.
"hellier" Discussed on Inspirado Projecto
"Hey this is all connected to lars. Larson stretches underneath any role plateau. Okay okay so I'm watching Hellier. I'm watching Hellier here with Still trying to figure out these elements of cody. Anyway I imagine that So like just like this play author the author's voice he has this Gremlin. The GREMLIN is writing all this all. These extraordinary plays so in a sense. Let's say for the in the sense with this the musicians channeling this particular. You know this this this this budding musicians so to speak as one might say is channeling their their favorite musician and people are heralding him kind of like what happened with a Elliott Smith with a lot of people. They consider what his his stuff was doing. This is is Paul McCartney now. I don't know if that ruffled feathers or not or you know I don't know why should anyone feathers get ruffled over one person's assessment work or complement over another the person. They don't even have to use that as arguing point. Well these people say that. But I don't agree with it. Well all right we don't have you know. Just let them have their opinion. You can have your opinion A.. And guess what they're all equally valid. How cool is that? There's room for all of them. There doesn't have to be the reigning opinion so Just yeah just Just fascinating because then let's say the the musician the musicians like. Hey I want you know I need credit. You need to start telling people that you're channeling me and My mortgage about that. I don't WanNa look like a Weirdo or something. The you know you gotTa tell them you gotTa tone so who knows. There's a whole thing that's tied into. That is why he's got to give him credit or why he who knows. What the the devalues the ghost of valued Smith would be getting out of it but anyway? That's that's just an idea that popped in my brain. I think it's a an idea what the exploring.
"hellier" Discussed on KTRH
"You've never seen in one of these types of projects. Now, the fact that you're working on season two tells me that you're not complete yet. It's not finished. There are so many dangling threads. There's there's a there's so much more to investigate again Hellier is just the start. It's just a prologue. And even in just we shot this in two thousand seventeen people are just seeing it. Now, it's only been out for a week the amount of information that we've been able to gather since then is staggering. And I think people are going to be shocked at the things that we've discovered in that time, what would you hope to accomplish? I think for us. I mean, we really went into this project with the idea of creating something that sort of push the Brown boundaries a little bit because of the nature of what we're investigating. It's a bit abstract and strange, and so really from everything from the way that it looks to the pacing of it. We really wanted to kind of challenge sort of the I turn on the television tropes, and the things that have sort of been set in place for many years. And so our our hope is really that it inspires people to make their own projects, and it inspires people to get out there and investigate. And and, you know, do it with with that kind of passion is really palpable. Historically, how old is this area. Oh, I mean, it's it's from the coal, boom. One of the things that we found out while we were investigating is many of the roads that we drive up only exist because they were roads that led to the old bind. So it's it's fairly old. And the other interesting thing is it was a place where the native Americans they would only hunt there. So they thought that the white guys are crazy.
"hellier" Discussed on KTRH
"Know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens a lot of times is there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exists somewhere in some kind of a I guess for for lack of a better word, cloud and times of high emotion times of stress and trauma. They can almost make an upload to that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a building is the biggest haunted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg have put together what is called Hellier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? Well, we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who is experiencing some strange activity on his property specifically around a mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of incidences happening up and down the mammoth cave system in and around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as goblins sometimes people. Call them holler goblins sometimes they would have completely different kind of local names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening were all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this map. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was the specific case that leads you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general? Well, where we were researching actually the name of of the documentary is the name of the town where this case took place Hellier Kentucky, they have account called Hellier Kentucky. It is a town called Hellier quite the name, really interesting. Because one of the things that we just found out is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to.
"hellier" Discussed on KTRH
"Are shooting the second season right now. Well, this one's got. It's kind of like a cliffhanger, isn't it? Yeah. So without without spoiling. Too much. There's a pretty massive cliffhanger at the end of the first season. And one of the things that we've been telling people is, you know, Hellier the first season Hellier really is a prologue to a much bigger scope again, you one of the things that the Terry had mentioned one of his emails that Hellier was a symptom. And that really is what we found. So the the scope is far broader than this one little tiny coal town now, and that's sort of where we leave off. What is what is the town say about this area? Well, that's actually a really interesting question. Because the first time that we had gone to Hellier was in two thousand fifteen and we were just dipping our toes in trying to get a feel for if something like this could have actually happened there. Because at that point, you know, we were even more skeptical, and we took the photograph with us, and we showed them to townspeople and there's. Basically one hub in Tellier, and it's the local gas station, and it's the gas station the post office, the the pizza restaurant. Everything is right there and any good paranormal investigator will tell you go to where the hub is. And you just start asking questions, and that's what we did. And you know within half an hour. There were two dozen people who were telling us all of these stories. They were telling us about UFO is the size of football fields that were hovering over the place. And then, you know, our second trip there which was two years later with with Carl and Connor our other investigators. They it was a totally different vibe. I think people were a little more distrusting because we had camera equipment. And we clearly didn't look like we were from the area. And it took us a while to warm people up to get them to tell us about some of these strange things that they were experiencing now you've you've dealt with other paranormal things before both of you have. How would you categorize this case in? In the Appalachian mountains compared to some of these other places. You've Ben I mean, this this is way less straightforward. Dana night, come from ghost hunting backgrounds and paranormal internal investigation, we're dealing with very very go. See stuff poltergeists things like that. This is so much bigger and stranger and weirder. You know, we're not you apologised, and we were dealing with UFO stuff. We were were not crypt zoologist, and we were dealing with with strange creatures in strange footprints, much broader and a lot more difficult to track down because it seems to us like the phenomena shifts and shapes depending on the time period. And depending on how people are looking for it. It's very lucid. What is the so-called ESTES method? What is there? So they asked us method is a method that our friends Carlin Connor who again, our fellow investigators. Actually came up with an ESTES park, Colorado and it utilizes spirit box, which is a pretty common ghost hunting tool. Right. A set of really good headphones and something to cover your eyes with and basically what you're doing. Is. You have a person sitting with the spirit boss and the headphones plugged into it. And they're listening to what's coming through on the spirit boss, and then you have the other investigators that are sort of standing around this person asking the questions, and the idea is that the person with headphones on is completely cut off from the rest of their sentences. So if the questions that were asking lineup was what the person is saying, then that's something interesting. We can kind of look at that. As potentially something else communicating with us. So that's us. Now, the spirit boxes that the one that George Meeks invented. I think it's close. I think it's a variation of that. Yeah. Okay. The the SBA seven is the most popular one, and it's been on the market for ten twenty years and pretty defensive and how people use it. I for one I'm not a fan of them. But after I saw the essence method performed I was blown away. I mean, the answers and responses that come from the the person who's acting as the receiver who is not hearing the questions asked. That's stunning to me. And I think that's whether that's coming psychically whether that's coming from some sort of technologically assisted medium ship. I don't know. But it's interesting enough that it's made me respect to the method. What kind of other equipment, Greg? Do you guys? Bring. I mean anything from thermal cameras night vision cameras things like that. We don't make a lot of use of them in Hellier because really what people are seeing in Hellier. They're seeing a lot of the boots on the ground work. They're seeing us talking to the locals and trying to get information from the locals, you know, one of the things that we make use of quite a bit is the fact that Dana za fantastic Terrel reader, and.
"hellier" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM
"Don't want to spoil season two good point. Now, he also wants to know about somebody named Terry wrist. Yeah. So Terry risked was the guy who sent these mysterious emails with the GPS coordinates talking about how your guy was a he said that Hellier was a symptom, and that's sort of what we found out in the first season. Were you able to trace his IP address? He wants tweet we were not. So there was a whole there's a whole need actually in the fourth episode where people will see us trying to find David and trying to find Terry. A lot of the Terry stuff didn't make it in. But the their IP addresses were very different and very very different parts of the country. And that's about as far as we got with those in the investigation. What did you to expect to find? I think I mean, I think we were hoping that we would find David and kind of be able to kind of put closure to what we already knew about the case. And every time we would again get a little bit of closure. There would be five or six more questions that would pop up at the same time. So it was sort of this real time investigation where we were really just running in the directions that felt the most compelling, and that were really yielding the most information. Were there any times that you thought you were going to come across some body or something like that? I think there were times when we thought the people might come across our. Yeah. Thank god. That didn't happen. Yes. Me.
"hellier" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"Hellier was a symptom, and that's sort of what we found out in the first season. Were you able to trace his IP address? He wants to we we were not. So there was a whole there's a whole need actually in the fourth episode where people will see us trying to find David and trying to find Terry. A lot of the Terry stuff didn't make it in. But the their IP addresses were very different and very very different parts of the country. And that's about as far as we got with those in the investigation. What did you to expect to find? I think I mean, I think we were hoping that we would find David and kind of be able to kind of put closure to what we already knew about the case. And every time we would again get a little bit of closure. There would be five or six more questions that would pop up at the same time. So it was sort of this real time investigation where we were really just running in the directions that felt the most compelling, and that were really yielding the most information were there any times that you thought you were going to come across some body or something like that. I think there were times that we thought that people might come across our. Yeah. Thank god. That didn't happen. Yes. Me too. There's still time. We'll see we are. We are shooting the second season right now. Well, this one's got. It's kind of like a cliffhanger, isn't it? Yeah. So without without spoiling. Too much. There's a pretty massive cliffhanger at the end of of the first season. And one of the things that we've been telling people is Hellier the first season of Hellier really is a prologue.
"hellier" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK
"It is a Volkswagen minivan? No. We're very good at tetris. I love it. I love it and Dana. What is a hedge witch? I enjoy is. I mean, a lot of people kind of have different ideas about what it is. It really. It's usually someone who associates a lot with the natural world. So they work a lot with medicinal herbs. They work a lot with things that you can find a nature, and that kind of becomes one of the major aspects of their magical practice you sound like a good witch. Can there be bad witches? I think just like people there's good people. And I think that really it's all about the intention behind what you're doing. So. Yeah, I think there can be a bad bitches, Greg as you travel around the country with the museum. Do you find that more and more people are fascinated by all this? Well, I think that we're in a really good climate for people to be fascinated by I think we're seeing a resurgence in the last few years of people getting more in touch with the spiritual nature of things, and they're more interested in that type of thing. And I think that more than ever they're less afraid of it. We're starting to see people who are becoming less. Scared of the idea of the unexplained in the paranormal is becoming more of a normal thing. That's one of the things that we're constantly. That's one of the biggest messages of of the museum that we run is that most of the time these things that people are afraid of they're just trying to get your attention. And so I think we're in a perfect place for the paranormal right now in the paranormal work that you've done, Greg. Have you ever come across anything that? Even scared you or something you didn't want to get involved with. Quite a few times. There's things that I think you'll find with a lot of these things you don't really have much of a choice, but to get involved. Sometimes you're you're dragged into it. And that happens I at least a few times a year. You know, we've got artifacts in the museum that have caused nothing but problems for people car accidents things that are believed to be cursed things that we've quite literally earlier this year, we had to actually take an artifact back to a cave in the catskill mountains that had been stolen from a floor because it kept it kept hurting people. Wow. And do you find that spirits and ghosts attach themselves to items? I think you know, there's there's our opinion on this is a lot different than a lot of our colleagues. I think that what happens. A lotta times is there are intelligence is out there or their pieces of us that exists somewhere in some kind of a I guess for lack of a better word, a cloud and times of high motion times of stress and trauma. They can almost make an upload to that cloud. And sometimes that attach to specific places and things I mean, a a building is the biggest haunted object of all. And so I think that times of intense emotion create this kind of attachment that when the time is right or or the date or the place of the person they can tap into that. And the experience that haunting and Dana. Of course, you and Greg have put together what is called Hellier a five part documentary series about the Appalachian mountains. How did you key in on the those mountains? Well, we were originally contacted back in two thousand twelve by a man who is experiencing some strange activity on his property specifically around a mine shaft that was on his property, and after you know, years and years of kind of looking into this case and really digging into it. We started to notice that there were a lot of similar types of instances happening up and down the mammoth cave system in and around that area. Sometimes people would refer to them as Dobelin sometimes people who call them holler. Sometimes they would have completely different kind of mocal names for them. But a majority of time the the things that were happening were all the same. So we were able to kind of put together this map. I guess you would say of where exactly this chain of events was happening. Greg was there a specific case that led you to to the Appalachian mountains. Or was it just in general? Well, we're we were researching actually the name of of the documentary is the name of the town where this case took place Hellier Kentucky, they have account called Hellier Kentucky. It is a town called Hellier quite the name. It's really interesting because one of the things that we just found out is that the name Hellier actually means to obscure to cover up, which is what we think was was happening in this town. There was a guy who they knew was saying there's a guy named David who sent us photographs of three toed footprints that were coming out of a mine shaft, these these things that he saw his children they were tapping on his windows at night, and they described them as little naked children that were bald like grandpa, and they sounded quite a bit like the the Sutton farmhouse attack that happened in Hopkins hopkinsville Kentucky back in the fifties. And so everything seems so similar to that case that we started look. Looking at it the same way. And you know, this guy David was convinced that these these creatures that were assaulting his family at night or extraterrestrial, and he desperately wanted us to come and document this. He wanted us to help him a blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard of him he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up us tracking down this case as we were doing that. We were finding all of these different similar similar sightings going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think. They just were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean, we initially were very skeptical of what was happening and even to this day. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds in at just as far as the investigation goes, we try to remain discuss possible. Because there is a lot of people out there potentially be putting us on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange was there any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hel- your I've kind of described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of re-tuned to. Location. It. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange. They're very dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down to the five parts the documentary. Right. Yes. There are they're five different parts. The first part of the documentaries. Basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making. And it's just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries to unravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. Were you happy with the way it ended up? Well, I think that's that's a really interesting question because I think that. Any kind of paranormal media and even in paranormal investigation itself. It's it never goes where you think it's going to go very always takes you someplace else. Exactly, exactly. And that is is really what happened. You know? This thing started out as what we thought was going to be a very simple investigation. We were going to go to Hellier we were going to find David we were going to go to his property, and we were going to see what was going on there. But as we started to peel back layers of that onion, we noticed that this was a bigger phenomenon. This was stranger than just goblins. It had part of the reason the case even even got picked up again was because our friend Karl Pfeiffer who was the director. He experienced a synchronicity that were just absolutely impossible that we're leading him to to do this case. It was like the phenomenon itself was telling us you need to document this you need to show it to people and now. Now that we've done that. It's it's in the world. And we're noticing other people are starting to feel themselves being sucked into this as well. What's the link with Mothman? So the second episode is where this pops up one of the things that happened a year after we got the initial emails was we got two very strange pointed emails from a man who went by the pseudonym, Kerry, wrist. I mean, we're pretty sure that's not his real name. He sent very strange emails that said the first ones.
"hellier" Discussed on KTRH
"A blow up the mine that was on the edge of his property. And he said he was trying to talk to the police, and they weren't taking him. Seriously. I thought the locals were hazing him. And then it just got so bad. He and his family fled their home. He went back with his brother in law to take some photographs and pick up the rest of their stuff. And that was the last we heard and he disappeared. And that's kind of where Hellier picks up is us tracking down this case as we were doing that. We were finding all of these different similar similar sightings going hundreds of years back all along the Appalachia's and people were just giving them different names. They were all seeing the same thing, we think. They just were calling them different things. So no one really put two and two together. How do you know that this is the real deal as opposed to some trickery or they're trying to pull the wool over your eyes? I think I mean, we initially were very skeptical of what was happening to this day. There's still a healthy level of skepticism. We were constantly trying to really keep ourselves grounded throat this investigation because it does take some pretty crazy turn. So I think that's something that no matter what is always in the back of our minds in at just as far as the investigation goes. We try to remain skeptical as possible because there is a lot of people out there who potentially be putting us on when you were on the scene. Could you feel anything strange was there any kind of energy pattern out there? Absolutely. I mean that was the first thing that we noticed when we got to hel- your I've kind of all described it as a feeling of having your brain sort of re-tuned to. Location. It. It was the first thing that we noticed it felt strange. They're very dreamy like you had sort of stepped into a different feeling sort of a place was really interesting. Now, you you broke it down to the five parts the documentary. Right. Yes. Yeah. There are five different parts of the first part of the documentaries. Basically just a recap of the investigation that we had done so far. This is something that's been seven years in the making, and and it just kind of something we've been slowly chipping away at because there's there's so many mysteries to unravel. So the first part is just kinda catching up, and then everything from the second episode on is the actual investigation itself. Were you happy with the way it ended up? Well, I think that's that's a really interesting.
"hellier" Discussed on Mysterious Universe
"It was much more isolated than I expected it to be the place had a very strange vibe. You could feel it the minute. You were there. It was hidden. They were building a highway that by passed that went right over top of Hellier. So you would never have risen to go there. That's creepy. Because he in the film. We see the pylons that meant to in a held the highway up over the town and its Bain abandoned. Those pylons is standing there. It's it's kind of creepy, and Dino I wanted to ask you because you pointed out as Greg did that this in the film. He said this this feeling about hell Lia. Can you tell us more about what that was? And and what that felt like what is the sense? He got from the place. It's such a strange place because you know, you pass by those pylons by those big concrete kind of slabs, and they almost feel like these bizarre markers that that kind of like at the entrance way to this place in when you're. When you when you drive through it. It's it's small, and and once there is kind of all over the place, and it there's a very kind of dreamy feel to it. It's doesn't feel you don't feel like, you know, your of your right mind that make sense like there's something about the place that just kind of. Tunes your brain differently. If not make sense, and it just it has an a very very interesting strange, and you know, sometimes terrifying kind of vibe to it. I imagine it has that small town feeling you get when you're all veasley stranger. You know, looks e because you knew so that they must be that kind of you know, feeling of is on you will the time. Absolutely. I mean, this place is so small, and so is located that they I'm an assume probably would recognize any vehicle that wasn't someone who lived in the area. So the second, you know, one person sees you, you know, the whole town knows that you're there. So you're definitely there's definitely a feeling of being watched the entire time. So what did you guys do when you go out there, and you didn't have any lades? Did you just stop putting up posters of we'd league? Three toed, golden, we kind of did actually we we kinda just did like boots on the ground..
"hellier" Discussed on WLS-AM 890
"Perfectly crowded and complex mix of musical instruments and vocal tracks. Steve doll has accepted. The challenge of isolating among part on singer. A recording booth under the watchful impatient is of the bandmates and producers armed with only a microphone and a pair of headphones that singer must dig deep to deliver the results you're about to hear guitar drums. This is Steve dolls. Naked and afraid. All right. Welcome to naked and afraid everyone. It's me that. What's his name? What's his name here in Chicago? Actually, I would drop down to brand Meyer, wouldn't it? If inserted me into the into the what's his name. Yeah. Right. Brand Myers Vince Argenta was questioning my man cow reference. But I only did that because that would be a, you know, what's his name. That's the name. I normally say right sorry, I'm making it more complicated. But Vince does that he drinks too much coffee. Jittery. I mean real and he'll go like did you hear what the stations have been sold knowing what? No, I've got it on good authority. He's just like rumors back there and drinks, and he can't stop drinking coffee. I know. Man, you know. Lacks. You gotta cut that thing with some cheese. You know, that's not one step down. That's several hundred steps down which I agree. Yeah. Yeah. It's a name. I wouldn't say is what I was thinking when you cut me into the art Hellier documentary because no one would say that that many people are going to say that many nice things about me. What do you think they talked about all the stuff he couldn't say brassiere? But yet his name was hell he had held in his native hundred times a day. That's how we found a way around it. Yeah. So I could name myself Steve pregnancy. Because you couldn't say pregnant either. Right. Yeah. Stephen pregnancy with all the pregnant pauses. Okay. Naked and afraid today. Love in an elevator. Aerosmith? Yesterday. I found myself in the elevator here and. I don't know. I was with a guy that worked in the building. And this we were talking a little bit or whatever and the elevator ladies her. She has a sexy voice. Yeah. We really should get somebody go record that. I'll go do it. Can you just during the SARS grab that? I mean, that's very close. If if that's sexier. Thank you. Don't get me wrong for Nella maters pretty sexy, and I had to really control myself neck. Oh, man. I wonder if she's as good look at it. She sounds. Yeah. Is that that seems like not hashtag me to me? Guy. They're both turned on by this room locker room be like, my it'd be my my access Hollywood tape do. They do. Yeah. I wonder if he's a sexy. She salads. Lobby when you ride the elevators off, a designed, do you? Don't even have to ask. All right. Sorry. We'll go. We do it because I don't feel like getting I'm sure I just write it down to the lobby and grabber as she's I never I don't notice her talking serious. Sometimes I read that. Nobody's going to get good. Yeah. Just press lobby and then be recording. And then you also when you come back up her sixth floor man that doesn't give you a little bit of a stiff. Oh, I mean, there's something wrong with you. Where am I? Nevada gets..
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"hellier" Discussed on WTVN
"Day sailing and entertaining clients going to give me a quick less listen on lake michigan so first thing we gotta do go to start the engines make sure they're running okay all right now we just need to get ready to leave the dock so we're gonna untie our dock lines throw them on and then i'll be at the wheel and show you how to operate the waters of lake michigan or call today ryan estimates only about six inch waves the sun is shining there's a breeze fortunately for us burnham harbor isn't crowded yet mansion on the weekends this is insane yeah it gets very busy and that's one of the reasons we really liked training people in docking handling the boats in the marina because that's where ninety percent of the accidents are going to happen right here where you're close to everything which sharp it just drives like a car that yep during the wheel to go left once we finally get out of the harbor into open water the real training begins so now we're going to get ready to take the sales up switch our home position and i we're going do we're going slower now we will turn directly into the wind and we're going to start raising our hallier hellier is named for a line that raises the sail up to the top of the mast so how does that go up that's out there yeah holy cow right now but times i've had to go up to the top of the mass and it's a lot taller windsor up at dow yeah now we have on our winch and we're gonna crank our win to keep raising so once we have our main sail out tacna sale a little bit now we're gonna take our jib which is a sale that's forward in the mass okay we're going to open up our early on this side menus are sheet unfurled the master unfurl the sale okay and then it just goes quiet are you able to fully detached when you're out there from cellphones and from life yeah it's you can still get celts every cell coverage a few miles out but it's nice to just put it all away and whatever the problem you left on shore it's going to be there when you get back so just come out here enjoy yourself and give yourself that break it does seem like two different worlds and the other nice thing is people are trying to reach you there's no better excuse than sorry i was sailing i was so far away compared to a golf course i think they can always reach you around the water i'm gone awesome view this can be intimidating.
"hellier" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Only other contender david hellier explains at president trump's trade war dispute has injected doubts it's a bit promises money america obey promises passion united badri stresses unity between the three nations has been rattled by governmental schools have tariffs migration and the proposal on the us mexican border in london david hallier bloomberg daybreak europe global news twenty four hours a day on and talk on twitter powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in more than one hundred twenty countries i'm dan guarantee this is bloomberg markets with your morning sports here's callum nicely id before the russia world cup begins the congress will vote on who will be the host of the twenty twenty six tournament but offers going up against the joint begged by us canada and mexico but it's been rated as rest president gianni infantino says the whole process has been spotted the report has had the ut to highlight the strong points in the weak points of each county that was done appropriately and then everyone has to assume its responsibility and take a decision england's cricketers by inaction at the oval lito the australia in the first of five one the internationals scotland's tricky those we'll be hoping for better results on pakistan in the twenty twenty international in edinburgh he lost by forty one putin's yesterday i'm greg rutherford degree britain's twin twelve olympic long jump champion at says he retired from the sports at the end of the season columnists me with your european sports still ahead on bloomberg daybreak europe tesla is cutting nine percent of its workforce but will it be enough to fix the company's deepening cash flow problem and is at and t's doj victory mean even more deals for big media this is bloomberg time is running out african penguin colonies have emptied in the last five years as a breeding populations have gone from two million to less than twenty.
"hellier" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"A result of something happened to him let's go to travis truck driving in arkansas now travis thank you for calling go ahead hi george and mr pope thanks though there everything that y'all do i wanted to reminisce just a second about a story for a about mr that was quite a quite a moment for me because he's an older brother and i don't often get that school him the scoop on things the the question i had for mr pope being that he's in the political and the government side of things wanted to ask if he would comment on the canadian politician came out some years ago and said that we were not only being visited but by numerous species and secondly if there are numerous species of aliens that are visiting isn't it quite possible that they have opposing views and what they want out of us and and therefore that's where the conflict comes from canadian official would be paul hellier who is their former minister of defense there in canada nick you know paul yes i do i had i i met him i thinking about two thousand nine two thousand ten or regrettable guy absolutely we we had a dinner when he came to the uk and we exchanged a lot of information he was very interested in rentals from forest by the way and i think subsequently he met and had discussions with colonel charles holt about that i think that pull hellier is is calf to differentiate between things that he has come across directly as a result of his experiences defense minister and the deputy prime minister in canada as opposed to things that he has been told by people he believes a credible sources so he has not come across this information in his capacity as as defense minister of canada these are things he's been told subsequently but some of his sources of course because of who he is and and the level he's at all people who you know generals and senior politicians so absolutely he he knows the thing too.
"hellier" Discussed on The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
"Worse some of the biggest names in hollywood yep what does this secret society do well naturally they control and steer major world affairs they mastermind events they strategically plant agents and governments and corporations in order to maintain political power and influence to establish a new world order yes yes the on february the nw oh and anyone suspected of being an alumina audie member has never admitted to being part of it and amazingly and against all odds not a single member has ever leaked provable details of the group's existence or their actions to shows you how good they are that's right how good they are yet everybody seems to know about them and that they are the most powerful group in the world that is what they want their existence through hidden symbols and at suggestions and that's right it's so it's on our dollar bill right here on the pyramid of the dollar bill well it any case so many people somehow are deeply invested in the belief that the alumina israel and that brings us to this news item which i am also dubbing the dumbest thing of the week meet mr paul healthier paul healthier is most notably a former minister of defence from canada of canada and he was involved in canadian politics for many many decades now according to a recent report in the british online tabloid the daily star and it's also a story that has recently been picked up by more conventional outlets such as the daily mail and international business times paul hellier is believed to be the highest ranking politician to profess a belief in the alumina audie and yes in a recent interview heavier said that the aluminum body was real and powerful and also they continue to wage needless wars and focus on profits rather than stopping climate change okay so it's kind of touching on some important issues of the day in a sense and attributing it to.
"hellier" Discussed on KGO 810
"Cold here my back gets off if so i can't imagine how i would feel if i was in that kind of weather it's never really cold here it's left to me hopefully you guys to me when it gets cold in it's like 30 degrees oh i've ever get theft hang out his a i've lived here long enough when it gets down to fifty i'm now freezing yeah every hot i tell you highlight cold weather but where i say that i mean california cold weather not you know cold cold weather oh my goodness well i'll tell you what it's it's all the alumina ottis fault did you know that if it can grand conspiracy and did you see this i i am just laughing my head off at this former canadian minister of defence of think of like donald rumsfeld robert gates you know those kinds of people has come out and said the alumina is real and they control everything and they actually have a solution for we have the technology to reverse climate change kinda paul hellier is his name but it's been suppressed by the aluminum audie because they'll make money off of fossil fuel did you see this a us scared to talk about this topic is that what's going on yeah them yet you're worried about i miss the guy that also said that they're aliens that we have proof of aliens paul howe here well you crazy to say europe he believes several species of intelligent aliens are secretly living on earth as well and a low of that but i believe that there are millions and they're living amongst us i'm just wondering if their breeding with us that's the question more they only do the probes when you're passed out since that seems to be what every abduction talks about all right well let's give another looking around among sure how intelligent they are of they're here and there's there's a good point two i mean right david sir was last time you're driving race we should sit here we're not saying or just that's the case artless get to today's holiday all the internet gives us the.