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"helen pluck" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

07:47 min | 3 months ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"The mark and Rob show. I'm Mark Roberts here. Producer Ethan filling in for producer Jacob. Do you remember or recall the name Helen Pluck Rose, Who Helen Pluck. Rose had a stage name. No. This is a real name She along with two other academics of some sort. They took part in this giant hoax in the fall of 2018, where the three of them wrote 20 articles that were completely fake that were over the top crazy, absurd articles about things like, Oh, gender. Uh, like what about rape, culture and transphobia? All these different like buzz, wordy kind of things they wrote these The academic community, the people that publish these kinds of papers, these peer reviewed journals would actually published them. And they did. What a surprise. It was kind of incredible and kind of awesome. I love everything about that story. So Helen pluck rose. She has tried to get. Um Robin D'Angelo, who you know, from such things as being the white fragility, author and being a huge race baiter, So she is trying to To get Robin D'Angelo to debate publicly, um iron Hirsi Ali, a native of Somalia, and she is a conservative commentator, essentially, so she is wanting to do this in order to raise money to provide education to Kenya to Kenyan Children. Black Children. Exactly. And so there's like a go fund Me project and the project there, says Ayan, Hirsi Ali and professor DeAngelo are invited to a public conversation on the topic of systemic racism. If the conversation happens, proceed, proceeds go to star he I'm not sure if I'm saying that right, a charity providing Kenya's brightest underprivileged Children with the quality education and like amazingly Robin D'Angelo has not responded What I know. I thought that was so odd. It's almost like these people don't have a leg to stand on when they get challenged, right, and especially because Hirsi Ali is a black woman who you know, has an opinion that counters Robin D'Angelo about systemic racism, But her opinion is important. Well, we played the clip last week of Emmerich hybrid candy and and the words solid that he evolves into When he gets challenged, and this is what happens. It's it's a It's a stick house, right? I mean, there's no foundation to the house, so these people rely on white guilt. And a bevy of other things, so that whatever they say people go. Oh, yeah, I need to do the work right instead of the follow up should be. Can you explain that to me? And then can you explain it again? Which, of course they can't do because it's all nonsense, Right? Which to your point, Abram Candy proved that when he was literally asked to define racism, and he used the word racism like four times in his definition of the word racism. Defining things right? So I mean, they're just all race hustlers. That's what they are. D'Angelo, by the way, makes up to 30 Grand for a 60 to 90 minutes. Speech. Sure, this white woman telling other people how to be less white. Is made is raking it in, you know, and and look, it's getting to the point Now where we should just ask the question. They never asked the actual question because reparations are widely unpopular when you use the term reparations, which is why even this Democrat far left government that we have now we'll go forward with it. There's a reason you know it's widely unpopular. And so instead of calling it that, because they know it's widely unpopular. They manipulated in other ways when you just ask the question now to people do you believe that you should have to pay for something that happened 200 years ago, Right? You have no involvement. And if the answer is no. Then we're done here and that no one is currently suffering from exactly all of this other nonsensical gibberish. Bull crap that people are mostly grifting office of all people could actually use help get nothing which We're done with that. If the If you say yes then paid. It's always this. There's always this thing that I never understand what these people who want higher taxes or tax the rich or whatever. Hey, there's nothing stopping you. The government will gladly collect your money. These organizations will gladly take the money from you. You can pay it all you want. But if your answer is no to that question should If your answer is no which the vast majority of Americans are still no. Which is why the Democrats won't go forward with it. Then we're done here done with all of it, because it's all a giant scam. It is a huge, huge scam. Indeed, now Hirsi Ali made a recent appearance on Tucker's Fox Nation show, and I just thought it would be nice to share so people know who she is. It would be nice to share a bit of that audio. Take a listen. That's what's so great about America is a lot of these things have actually been achieved equality between men and women. It's the best place in the world to be female. It's the best place in the world to be black. It's the best place in the world to be gay. Trans whatever you want to be. That is America. What do we do with all of those achievements? If you still want to keep the organization going and still wants to get money from donors, you start to invent new stories. New problems. That's exactly right. And that is why she would be the perfect person to have a debate with Robin D'Angelo, who is doing exactly what she just said. People are doing in order to keep racism alive. Sure, it's these people are professional grifters, and it's amazing that there's that many stupid people out there that have been sucked into this white guilt. Bull crap. I mean, we just celebrated everybody, But Biden and Kamala just celebrated an event in which whatever, roughly 2500 U. S servicemen willfully gave their lives for people of all races, creeds, You know, color sex religion fill in the blank right? They freed Tens of millions of people throughout Europe, and they went there knowing for the most part, they were going to die. And yet we're supposed to believe that this is some racist, awful, terrible, bigoted country. I'm just not buying it. I'm never going to buy it. And and And if people would just think for a moment about all the people of color, many, many colors by the way, Who are desperate to come here. Why? Why would they be desperate to come to such a racist? Horrible systemically? Terrible, awful racist place. Why? Because it's not. It's not that right. It's the most America is the most just fair, equitable, good nation who has ever lived but acknowledging that America is good, just fair and equitable doesn't make you money if you're a professional race baiter and grifter, and that is a problem for Robin DeAngelis going at least have to respond to this. I mean, I think at some point she's going to have to decline or at least acknowledge the fact that this is That this request has been made that it's very, very public..

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"helen pluck" Discussed on Armstrong & Getty

Armstrong & Getty

03:20 min | 6 months ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on Armstrong & Getty

"Plans taunting host for final thoughts. Jau getting how about a final thought from everybody on the crew is our technical director. Pushing all the buttons michelangelo funneled. Thought all right jack. Here's how you handle these teenagers. Take a male friend with you. You put fake blood in his hair and you hold a broken skateboard in your hand and you have the male friends. Say i'm sorry. I tried to sell drugs to your son. Go garin. I like it. That's creative Positive sean our producer. He's a non fungible token newly minted millionaires. Sean we'll check the math on that you back tomorrow excited to meet my mom for lunch today just to just kind of a calm day. Just yeah. I haven't seen for a little bit so that's going to be nice to eat inside a restaurant. No no promises. Something at a at at her place. Okay jack oposite a final thought rather for the folks hir bodyguard. It was pretty convenient. Just letting my son go to the skateboard park by himself. But now i don't know you get a higher your son a bodyguard pa him to feel that well hire one that just kind of you know tails him as far away just in case you need. That's not weird at all. is it. now it's great parents. I just signed my final thought. Is you know what. I changed my mind. Final thought is if you're getting forced to go to the crazy woke education. Training remember about the website counterweight support dot com counterweight. Support dot com. Helen pluck rose founded it. It's all about support for if they're trying to doctrine at you and you don't like it and we'll have lincoln at armstrong and getty dot com. So you can find it easily as counterweight. Support dot com. Oh we didn't get to another one of your heavyweight epidemiologists said the same thing. Scott gottlieb said that were close to be an out of this thing with the vaccine and the number of people who've had it it's gonna be over in weeks armstrong and getty wrapping up another grueling for our work that so many people thanks a little time. Good armstrong and getty dot com. You can email us mail. Pagan armstrong and getty dot com. I'm wearing a stupid should hurt. T shirt you should want to at the website see tomorrow. God bless america. Lot of chicanery can just see that bizarro speech in in this bizarre world truly in deeply apologize for when you go out and you basically take out of the zucca to kill an anti tickly nauseating service out stupid bravo absolutely diabolical behaviour. I know government armstrong and getty finally spring and. I'm saying the snow. Hello adventure during the honda dream garage spring event. You can get deals on your favorite honda model ready to get rugged and take off road in an all wheel drive honda. V the hr v. pilot passport or redesigned rich. I want to take his spring road trip. Checkout fuel-efficient turbocharged. Civic or say sega biter winter and hello to a new honda. Don't miss huge savings during the honda dream garage spring back now at your local honda dealer..

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"helen pluck" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

03:36 min | 1 year ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"You No, I don't do And they're the ones writing it off in the last 20 Seconds of my life by Christina sent that along pretty similar. It's it's It's quite similar. Comedy. It's absolutely possible for something to strike two different people as the music. Remember when Conan O'Brien did that thing he got well, that was a court case. So he really went deep on this. He got accused of stealing jokes, and then he put out a whole bunch of different examples. Of multiple people like him. Leno Letterman whoever else coming up with the same joke on the same night, it happens all the time is the premise of our late night joke off in parallel, Sure, yeah, comedic thinking they're usually different, but the sometimes it's the same dang joke. It happens all the time. Both bits. Pretty dang funny. Yeah, yeah. Still don't know what the right office eso what they're teaching in universities. A critical race theory on a 16 19 project. They're not dead yet. Oh, being taught in our universities will tell you about that coming up in just a little bit. Read one paragraph from something that all the professor signed onto at a major university. Oh, that story is so troubling, so incredibly troubling. Do you follow us on Twitter? You should I mean it's It's a cesspool of hate and bitterness, but it's also a great way to keep up with what's going on in the world. You just have to learn to use it properly. Like the fabulous Helen Pluck Rose, Who's friends with James Lindsay and Peter Bogosian, Friends of the Armstrong and getting showing in terrific thinkers and writers. She tweeted the other day, something to the effect of she had to stop. She was going to stop the rest of it. She's tapped out and I tweeted at her, and she subsequently replied and appreciated. I said, Look. Don't read comments. Use it as a plat platform to express your views. Don't get hooked by nuts on ly a fool argues with fools. You sent her a comment? Actually, I said, Actually, it's an excellent the observation, Shawn. Literally. I tweeted at her. Don't read comments, he commented in parentheses. You gotta have. I don't have it. You have to have a certain mindset. Inability, Tio argue with everybody. I just I don't I don't do it. I can't do it. I won't do it. You also have to remember that. At least I don't know what percentage but a chunk of the people you're arguing with their They're just being that way to make you mad, right? They don't even believe what they're saying. Right? Maybe that's I've been doing this long enough. You know, back in the day we have collars just obnoxious and there was no Getting through to them. There is no trading ideas. They were just too macho. So you hang up. Maybe it's that deny knowledge. I don't I don't need to convince some jackass of my point of view. Especially if I get the vibe that he has no interest in hearing it. So I was trying to communicate That tour could wasting your time, all levels of education and trying to force this critical race theory and the 16 19 project and all this stuff they're trying to force it on us. Got a good example of that coming up. Strong and get it. When you're stressed, you just don't feel like yourself. New Natural. Relax.

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"helen pluck" Discussed on Armstrong & Getty

Armstrong & Getty

05:02 min | 1 year ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on Armstrong & Getty

"I don't like. That's violence. Yes. So I get the punch you but that's not violence there a speech exactly, and if if I-, perpetrate. And there's no one else around that's because of the system and if perpetrate violence on somebody else it's because they provoked it. That's another handy rule of thumb whether they is the national guard or federal protective services or trump supporters with flags in pickup trucks or whatever they provoked, and then the minute they leave and the violence continues. Now it's back to against the system, right? So I, I know I'm obsessed with this and. I hope I'm not wearing out about it but I'm in I'm going to roar actually GonNa read James, Lindsay's Any did it with his friend Helen Pluck rose book that's outright now about all this stuff but I've taken so many of his podcasts and everything like that, and at the two plus two is five thing and also the speeches violence violence is speech thing. It's all about changing definitions like one of the ways you make two plus two equals five is you say, well, the number to. The number five actually means four. that's one way you can make two plus two four. Make the the the symbol for five be four objects right. Said of for you to tell me what that symbol exactly white male straight white males decided that the symbol for for objects for of something should be this instead of this and so they don't get to say so if you can change it to this, then two plus two equals five. The real point of it is. According James and I think he's absolutely right when you can start changing definitions then you don't have to change the law, the law change just by changing the definition right and so contracts changed the constitution changes lodging what is considered a sex offense what is considered racist what is considered a crime all changes when you get to start changing the definitions. To go to the work of changing the Constitution, for instance. George Orwell might have been some. So sort of super human creature you might have been sent by. God to. The future or something. If you know what? If somebody told me that I'd think? Okay. Hey kids, it's that time again. With on. Getty, Beers your host Joe Getting. Let's a final thought from everybody on the crew. To wrap up the show there is pressing the buttons in neutral when Michelangelo. Just. Congratulations to you. Joe And you Jack for twenty two years on the air and thanks to our listeners. His listeners like you that make quality radio programming possible. How long have you been with us during the two thousand, two, hundred, twenty, two, twenty, twenty, and a half yeah. Positive Sean a final thoughts for us. One of my favorite episodes or seasons of television from last year I don't know what is television news on Amazon. It's called the boys. It's a look at a kind of a corrupted version of the avengers that is presented in marvel movies kind of what would happen if superheroes corporate is interesting, very interesting season two's coming out later this week, you've got time to catch up on season one if you're interested not for the kids a final thought for us, it is our twenty-second anniversary of doing this talk radio show, which is my favorite job I've ever had and I will do it as long. Someone lets me. And it really does you know as Cheesy as it sounded Michael said it without the listeners really be no point. Yeah I mean I am call you once or twice a week if you want to you what I think about things. Yeah we're final thought it'd be ED. Thanks so much for listening those of you've turn on friends to the show. We appreciate that very much it's. Heard nationwide now, all sorts of radio stations, these are pretty difficult times in in media. It's still it's still crazy fund the do and your emails and texts, and all are fun to get most of the crazy angry people you can go to hell but the rest of you. Very much for staying in touch if you WANNA email us mailbag at Armstrong and Getty Dot, com Armstrong and getty wrapping up under their grueling for our work day in the twenty two, our year you know assignment. So many people thanks a little go to Armstrong and GETTY DOT COM. We have specially packaged as the standalone podcast, the segment or two we did on the strategies and tactics of the militants. You've got to check this out Armstrong and Getty Dot Com tomorrow God bless, America. Ever. Good Time I. Sat here for over three hour and fifteen minutes If. You wish to leave you me let me just say how very very dismaying and disappointing not. Good and just change the channel from this mesmerizing horror shows. N. We heard words. It's over for me audio's Mojo. You're dismissed as that. Correct. refreeze what you're doing. We're not gonNa let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nut. Jobs..

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"helen pluck" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

06:30 min | 1 year ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Indigenous knowledge in order to propose a new vision for pressed practicing mathematics. What I like to call mathematics with an exit the Ah Now I'm convinced I have build upon the work of sustainability and mathematics education and suggest we need to think not only about the more ethical ways of applying mathematics The ethical ways of applying mathematics. Kill me. Kill me! Math problem easier Has this answer? It doesn't It doesn't matter if Hitler says it, or Jesus says it or Obama or Trump or whoever the number is the same. Not quite supremacy, folks. I'm sorry you had to hear that, but not according to this person. I God, where's your hood? We need to question the very nature of mathematics. Who does it and how we're affected by that. How about you? Go ahead, sweetheart. The rest of us are going to continue to get two of that. Into that and say four. On and then something about plants that I don't understand. This was James Lindsay's like focal point on how we're supposed to listen to plants. Now science and traditional knowledge may ask different questions and speak different languages, but they may converge when they both truly listened to plants. And then it references somewhere else. I'm strong thing else to read. We're making reference to James Lindsay here in his Associates. Helen Pluck Rosen Peter Bogosian, who vaulted to fame because they had published a handful of phony research papers in respected publications. They made him up. They were intentionally ridiculous, and they got published and they got published because there's nothing to ridiculous for the woke soft science crowd. I was struck. Is your reading that gals Verbund that I couldn't tell if she was serious. Or it was another parody. Right? Well, how could you write? How could you write? These people are insane. These people are insane. Here's here's the punch line, and it's not a punchline. Ha ha is a punch line. Oh, This has been the hallmark of various totalitarian regimes throughout history. They make it impossible for you to know what the rules are or what the truth is. And all you khun duo is say yes, That's true. If you say it's true Mr chairman Hallmark of the North Korean regime. We talked about this the other day. It's why Kim Jong Il used to say he made 18 consecutive holes in one Cause if you said Wait a minute. That's impossible. Boom! You're in the gulag. You're dead. If if King If Kim Jong un says two plus two is actually seven, you say Yes, it is. Absolutely it is. And if they say you know, your grandfather being tortured to death is actually human rights. You'd say Yes, they are. Yes, he is. He should have been tortured. Thank you, sir. I get that, but I assume That Chairman Mao saying two plus two is seven. He knows it's not seven. He it's a test of loyalty. And who he contrasted Who he can't this university professor. I actually think believes two plus two isn't for I think that's possible. Yeah, I think she's just deluded. But the problem is and and it's interesting. She may be one of the useful idiots and she's teaching kids and Stalin. There are parents who've been scraping together money their whole lives to send their kid to learn from that crazy person, right? I know it. She's absolutely probably one of those useful idiots. But the whole the whole, Um Ah, racist, anti racist, critical race theory thing. It's the same thing. The idea is not that you conform and get on the right side of it. The idea is that you can never conform and get on the right side of it because you're born with the original sin of being light skinned. And so if you can never Be on the right side of it. You could be controlled. You're you're You're a criminal. You are a bad person. You're a racist. And if you are a racist, how can you rally others to support you? Because people most people are conscious of our racism. So the idea is to keep you always on your heels and always outside the law. Now, this gal I agree She's just freaking nuts. But the reason you have to reject that sort of thing you feel free. Let her rip. The reason you have to reject. That sort of thing is because it will lead to a situation where and this is straight out of communist. Ah, doctrine. There is no truth but what the party says. It's incredibly dangerous. Won't Dr Lindsey's got his PhD in mathematics. He's really worried that has now gone from, you know the soft sciences where he could at least make the argument and you could kind of pull it off. Even if it is crap about white supremacy and colonialism and all that crap when when you get into mathematics and physics, it's just I mean, you're really into insane territory here, and it bothers him is a math professor. That that this is catching. Hold on various impersonates. Oh, yeah? Yeah, this idea that there's indigenous math and their their math is different than our math or can be and that if you come from that background, like if you're in a neo American school, but you identify as you know, whatever part of Africa or something like that you shouldn't have to get the same answers. As the white kids get right. Which is incredibly condescending. Of course it is. Of course it is, and is Steven Pinker and others have written. This is especially scary because the Enlightenment which lifted you know Hundreds of millions, billions of people out of poverty and toward justice and away from medieval torture and and superstition, and the rest of it is based on Objectivity the scientific method agreeing on what facts are facts. We do not want to retreat from the Enlightenment folks, you do not want to live in the middle Ages. Lot of sores For one thing, a lot of sores, tooth decay. Well, and people being tortured to death over superstitions. I see in the headlines Miley Cyrus has announced who took her virginity and what age So that team cover? Yeah, Yeah, Plus oh, as long as we're on the topic, we've got to hit you with the stats on the term Latina X, which the woke crowd And the press is trying to get you to use the percentage of people who would answer that description. Use that term or have even heard of it is hilarious. Stay tuned, Amigos and e Amigas. Strong and getting When you're stressed,.

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"helen pluck" Discussed on The Babylon Bee

The Babylon Bee

04:57 min | 1 year ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on The Babylon Bee

"What does that mean neither mets feminism? is any not are. S so that's the thing that's thing. And it's like. Geez men just get to know yourself. Like. Stop Stop, constructing your complicated identity, Matrix on twitter and Tumbler Yeah and get to know yourself like in a community of real people, not other people on the Internet who don't our. Yeah our a overlord here, Adam four, who created the Babylon we were. He was saying the other day that A. CNA. Yeah he was, he came okay. There you, go he. He was saying that the. You know this whole idea that you keep. Intersectional Izing everybody down to you. Know I. You got the Gay Guy Within this gay guy has one legs when you got. That guy's got more depressed, but this one's black in this one has slave, blood, or whatever you keep going down down down until you eventually get to. The individual. Except you don't. You ready you. Don't you ready for that one? You could yeah. It took some working out. Figure out why there's never the individual in this you are even if you're in intersecting group categories toward, there's only one person one unique individual who fills that role very unfortunate still. This thing, the most depressed person on the. Over. Her fledged, but the point is that you still have to be. You still have to be the representative of that set of intersections of identity groups, so you would still even if you're contained only one person, you still have to think of it in terms of A. Being an identity group that you inhabit in be so group identity. It's key, and then be that your your identity group is unique, but it's also composed of these other factors that have these kind of authentic is way to not say essential experiences, so if that person happened I, think would necessarily probably have to be black. They still have. The. Into represent the black identity, and they would be claimed that they just represent the black identity in a different way, so you actually cannot get down to the individual and remember if they disagree with the critical consciousness. They're no longer black rats top coats. He's not like a small figure in all of this. And he said Kanye. You put that Maga hat on. You're out. You're not one of US anymore. I mean there's articles that were coming out. There were saying that that straight black men are the white people black people, and it's like what the heck is going on here then I'm just like over here like welcome friends. Do. You man welcome friends like you're the. You're the white people by people now you sound like my kind of guy. Let's go. I got you so it's like. exasperated. Say. When we came on with you, you looked exasperated now. I realized because this is what's going on your head all day. Thanks for joining US James. Spoke with Helen Pluck rose cynical theories. How activists scholarship made everything about race gender identity, and why this harms everybody and that's available. Maybe now we'll find out. Available. Because of the pandemic, it's now ambiguous when it's coming out in May start shipping soon as the mid July. It's listed as late August on the web, but the the first print run is nearly done in when it's done in in the distributors hands, it's going to start moving. Because it was supposed to come out in June before the DEMOC shut down. All the printers preorder now hit number thirty four on the charts. The other day says good. Otherwise you can check out new discourses DOT COM, which has some pretty cool stuff on it and some hilarious definitions. Are Not Satire. Unfortunately, they're not. All Right? Thanks a lot James Yeah, thanks again. Guys good senior. Who Shoots Shuji? Take Care Gas. Coming up next for Babylon, subscribers definitely divide happening in the charity. Seems like that's all I can do. Yeah, it's all it can do. What about apologetic, but with an accident. Coming to a church near you. This is emerging Church two point Oh but like worse. A much, more, specific and institutionally powerful. Christian Christianity for this sort of like Narnia, so it's like it's somewhere over there, and it's like all of your famous people are Kinda like on the edge of my imagination, enjoying this hard hitting interview become Babylon. Be Subscriber to hear the rest of this conversation. GO TO BABYLON BE.

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"helen pluck" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

WMAL 630AM

11:54 min | 2 years ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

"Shapiro show. There is a story that I just loved last year is just an amazing amazing story. A trio of writers is according to Robby suave over a reason dot com. Trio of writers who described themselves as left leaning, but decried the academic influence of political correctness identity, politics what they call grievance. Studies conducted an experiment could they fall scholarly journals into publishing hoax papers masquerading as legitimate scholarship. The answer. It turns out was yes. Seven journals accepted the fake papers which were written by James Lindsay, a mathematician, Helen pluck rose editor of area and Peterberg ocean and assistant professor of law Sophy at Portland state university, a bunch of these papers were actually published one of them were about one of them was about fat bodybuilding, which was actually published by the journal fat studies claiming that bodybuilding was fat exclusionary, and they wanted a new term fat bodybuilding. There's another one that was that was posted by the journal of poetry therapy, describing monthly feminine spirituality meetings, complete with a woman room and discussing six poems, which were generated by Mr. Lindsey through algorithm and lightly edited. And this went through a pair of you process, and then was published and then there was affiliate which is a peer reviewed journal of women in social work. They accepted the trio's hoax. Paper. Our struggle is my struggle solidarity feminism as an intersectional reply to Neo liberal and choice feminism the second portion of the paper is a basic rewrite of mine. Of which is just spectacular. There is another paper also published called rape culture and queer performance at urban dog parks all about how a dog parks dogs were humping each other. And when the humping was male on male owners were intervening more often than when it was male on female. So this obviously showed that the owners were homophobic. So bottom line is a lot of these papers published these papers. Well, now, it's out that the professors are going to be published for it, not the host papers. Not I mean, not not the not the stupid S J W girdles not any of that. The people who are going to be punished are going to be people people like Peterberg ocean is now being investigated by the Portland state university institutional review board because they it's unethical for him to use human test subjects in the course of his experiment. Professor, Peter version and fester James Lindsay. Thanks for joining the Ben Shapiro show. Thanks for having a on back it. He's a professor let's start with you. What is the latest status? So what what exactly was the claim against you? When the university came after you, and what's the status of the investigation. You can just call me, Peter. So the were to claims against me, and I was found guilty of one, and that's not going to the Rb, which is human subjects and found guilty need training. Go in it's been escalated to the president and the provost and the other charges still under investigation, which is the fabrication of data. And they only looked looked at one of those papers and the paper that you named full maturity and and rape cultured over dog parks in Portland, Oregon. So that investigation is ongoing. Okay. And and what has been the impact with for your social circle. I mean, you guys have done something undoable and unstable. You've actually mentioned that there are a bunch of academic turtles that are not very academic. That are basically willing to accept an enormous amounts of gobbledygook. That's fill certain basic narrative preconditions, professor Lindsey. What has been the the how how other professors accepted as have other people in your profession except to this. Or if you become an outcast now for for violating the code. Well, you can call me, Jim, and it all that. Okay. Not a professor, I left academia a number of years ago. So my professional blowback has been zero which is great. Personally. It had the situation on my friends think this is a great. And then some of my friends are I guess so called friends I hate to say they're like people don't like politics get in between find it difficult to share a room with me now. So there's been a lot of unfortunate. You know, I've become a pariah to some of my closer friends and lot trying to see where your real friends y kind of four bagging my social circles, professionally been okay for me, not as good for Pete Peterson's. Let's ask you. How's it been for you considering that Evatt and blowback not just from your university zoom from from some of your peers? Yeah. It's an extraordinarily interesting. I I've had a lot of letters of support from really the world's leading public intellectual suppose ski thinker Dawkins height. Peterson get it. The list goes on Christine, Alzheimer's. Many of my peers are livid the Portland state university vanguard published a hit piece on me when eleven terror eleven of my peers came out and through at a picture of me as a villain with a big nose on my my face and. Hit piece, and they basically accused me of undermining crossed important state university in the institution, and they published at anonymous non in college would even put your name to it. And then people will come up to me, some of whom will be extremely supportive every single time. I say thank you for your support. I really appreciate it. Would you force that publicly only two professors in the entire university would voice their support public publicly three one of whom you probably know Bruce Gilley, he's the fellow who will the. The paper in defense of colonialism, and they targeted him as well for for that behavior. One of the most astonishing things about these universities is exactly that's sort of sort of social pressure. I I have friends on the left, and it obviously exists on Twitter in social media that even on my birthday, I would receive birthday messages from people privately and people wouldn't say publicly. Lest you be known as it as a human. We're speaking with professors, Peter promotion and mathematician, James Lindsay or the authors of the so-called so-called swear hoax paper. Now professor Peter where did this idea of begin? What what was the purpose of this experiment from the very beginning. What what drove you to do this? What to do this as I was deeply concerned, and I share this with James, and there's another member of our team Helen pluck rose who lives in England who's not here with us today. But I was deeply concerned that there was a lack of diversity of voices in the academy that students were not hearing the other side of the aisle of the argument. And again, I'm coming at this from someone who's liberal and not religious. And I was deeply concerned that people could not feel free to voice their opinions on issues, and we saw that this was emanating from all of this talk society was emanating from basically any any bring of university that have to work studies in it. And so long story short the original socal hoax. We did a hoax called the conceptual penises a social construct and a lot of people criticize that original hoax. And so what we did is took all of the criticism. And we addressed it all this next round and the outcome. Was that out of how many papers you guys wrote? How many? Considering how many were actually accepted by these so-called academic studies journals? Twenty which in ten months, which is about one every two weeks. If you've ever written an academic paper for audience members who don't know typically one or two year is good for academics. We did twenty and ten months. Seven of them were accepted. One the dog humping paper was was recognized for excellence and feminist geography seven more were still under review the first six that we wrote were actually kind of pure hotels where we didn't try to learn the field, and none of those succeeded. It's harder to hoax than we thought. It would be. So we actually spent the last maybe two thirds of our time writing papers learning how to think like, the people think understanding the activists machine was in academia, as if we are those people, and then, you know, intentionally exaggerating it so that the papers would be funny, and and would make good points and all that. When the Wall Street Journal caught us we had seven more under review. So we wrote over a quarter million words in ten months, which is it. Well, I'll let people make the decision for how much scholarly activity that is. So the response has been back. You're really question the response instead of wild. There's a problem we need to take a sincere. Look at the scholarship. We want valid on more impulses. But we we may be putting an agenda head of the truth. Or maybe you don't even have to say something that's wrong. We just need to take a look at the peer review process and how it's done instead of that. It's been reputational attacks on us personal smears, it's been it's been anything. But honest, it's and and the one of the consequences of that is again now what they're trying to do is to try to vet these papers better by searching, the authors, making sure that the authors are are who they say that they are. So in other words, that's an admission that they can't even tell. The difference between bogus scholarship and this scholarship that comes out of these fields. What sort of review would actually would actually make this better? Because it seems to me it's going to be pretty hard to have peer reviewed journals at all that are based on such obviously fallacious and empty rhetoric. I mean, if you were able to hoax these folks with stories with papers about conceptual penises and dog humping dog parks. Then as you say, what sort of pure view process would be able to even curate this stuff. It's just too vague. There's no way to have anything truly academic happening in these fields. Well, I think that that's sort of the thing is that these fields has been able to be echo chambers where they do their own thing. Right. They're responsible for his too has been to increase the echo chamber knits by only accepting authors that they think can be proven to be in the club. What they need to be doing flooding out people outside of the field review the papers, especially when these papers make sociological conclusions. You'd probably have listeners if all heard of Robin to Angelo's idea called white fragility, well that the white people are fragile can't handle race face discussions is technically a sociological concept. So what let's review that not from some philosophical theoretical point. Which is what they do is all theory theory theory, let's put it to the test sociology sociology sociological levels of rigor they used to pistol methods and took theologists were real quick after we came public with our project say, hey, look, you mentioned sociology has a problem. But you didn't get any papers in the sociology. Journal. And we think we're better than I'm glad I want sociology. Hey, look, our fields better than what these people say gender. Studies are doing and they should be trying to distinguish themselves. Meanwhile, if a paper gender studies wants to claim a sociological conclusion, which they all do they wanna tell us about how society works better have sociological rigor, and who could also geologist and statisticians philosophers in there that are outside of the bubble and see if they follow the reason in the logic. And the conclusion generation you could throw some biologists on there to say if the social constructivism is valid get that get some outside review on that. The papers are more difficult to publisher retroactively reviewed afterwards to see what happens, and they can clean itself up. Well, thank you guys for doing the hard work of actually trying to expose this stuff and hopefully make the process better professors. Peter pagosa and mathematician, James you, thanks so much for doing all this. I'm sorry that you're going through what you have to go through. And we're here in support of of anything that makes academia better. Thanks for your time. Coming up. I wanna talk about another tobacco. That's happening. It's unfolding right now at Harvard in attempts to take down a young brilliant. Black Stoller was being destroyed by the metoo movement. We'll talk about that in just a second. First. Let's talk about your car sooner or later, your car is gonna break down. It's a fact every car truck and SUV owner knows if you're lucky is going to happen while you're still under manufacturer's warranty. But if it happens after the warranty expires, you.

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"AM seven ninety so Cal weather cloudy today. Highs in the upper sixties to the mid seventies. It's sixty nine degrees in San Gabriel. Sixty eight Northridge sixty three in Laguna beach, sixty six in downtown, Los Angeles. I'm Liz Warner ABC news. This segment brought to you. It's been thirty five years since in LA team won a Super Bowl granted twenty one of those. We didn't have a team regardless. I think our cities do. Let's Joe Rams AM seven ninety K ABC. You love him in the show about nothing. And now you'll love it. I talk about nothing. I work actually, Peter Fritsch Alexander. How dare you Peter Tilden and Jason Alexander present a very special our nothing. Welcome back. This is the Ben Shapiro show. So there was a story that I just loved last year is just an amazing amazing story of writers is according to Robby suave over a reason dot com. A trio of writers who described themselves as left leaning, but to cry the academic influence of political correctness identity politics that what they call grievance. Studies conducted an experiment could they fall scholarly journals into publishing hoax papers masquerading as legitimate scholarship. The answer. It turns out was yes. Seven journals accepted the fake papers which were written by James Lindsay mathematician. Helen pluck rose editor of area and Peter ocean and assistant professor of law Sophy at Portland state university, a bunch of these papers were actually published one of them were about what are those about fat bodybuilding, which was actually published by the journal fat studies claiming that bodybuilding was fat exclusionary, and they wanted a new term fat bodybuilding. There's another one that was that was posted by the journal of poetry therapy, describing monthly feminist spirituality meetings complete with a warm room and discussing. Six poems, which were generated by Mr. Lindsey through algorithm, then lightly edited and this went through a review process, and then with polish, and then there was affiliated is a peer reviewed journal of limited social work. They accepted the trio's hoax. Paper our struggle is my struggle solidarity feminism as an inter-factional reply to Neo liberal and choice them the second portion of the paper is a basic rewrite of mine, and it was which is just spectacular. There is another paper. There was also published called rape culture and queer performance at urban dog parks all about how a dog parks, the dogs were humping each other. And when the humping was male on male owners were intervening more often than when it was male on female. So this obviously showed that the owners were homophobic bottom line is a lot of these papers published these papers. Well, now, it turns out that the professors are going to be published for it, not the host favors not. I mean, not not the not the stupid j w journals not any of that the people who are going to be punished are going to be people people like. Peterburg ocean is now being investigated by the Portland state university institutional review board because they say it's unethical for him to use human test subjects in the course of his experiment. Professor, Peter promotion and fester, James Lindsay. Thanks for joining the show. Thanks for having a on back. He's a professor let's start with you. What is the latest status? So what what exactly was the claim against you? When the university came after you'd what's the status of the investigation. You can just call me, Peter. So the were to claims against me, and I was found guilty of one, and that's not going to the Rb, which is human subjects and found guilty need training. Go in it's been escalated to the president and the provost and the other charges still under investigation, which is the fabrication of data. And they only looked looked at one of those papers and the paper that you named full maturity and rape cultured over dog parks in Portland, Oregon. So that investigation is ongoing. Okay. And and what has been the impact with for your social circle. I mean, you guys have done something undoable with unstable. You've actually mentioned that there are a bunch of academic turtles that are not very academic. That are basically willing to accept an enormous amounts of gobbledygook that fulfils certain basic narrative preconditions, professor Lindsey, what has been the the how how other professors accepted this have other people in your profession except this. Or if you become an outcast now for for violating the code. Well, you can call me, Jim and all that. Okay. Not a professor, I left academia a number of years ago. So my my professional blowback has been zero which is great. Personally. Had the situation on my friends think this is a great. And then some of my friends are I guess so called friends they're like people don't like politics get in between find it difficult to share a room with me now. So there's been a lot of unfortunate. You know, I've become a pariah to some of my closer, friends and. Training to see where your real friends like blowback in my local circles, professionally it's been okay for me. Not as good for Pete Peterson's. Let's ask you. How's it been for you considering that Evatt and blowback not just from your university? I assume from from some of your peers. Yeah. It's been extraordinarily interesting. I I've had a lot of letters of support from really the world's leading public intellectual suppose key thinker Dawkins height Peterson the list goes on Christine, Alzheimer's. Many of my peers are livid the Portland state university. Vanguard public- hit piece on me when eleven ten or eleven of my peers came out, and drew at a picture of me as a villain with a big nose on my my face, and it was a hit piece, and they basically accused me of undermining cross importance at university the institution, and they published that anonymously. The college would even put their name to it. And then people will come up to me, some of whom will be extremely supportive, but every single time I say, thank you, Trish support. I really appreciate it. Would you force that publicly only two professors in the entire university would voice their support public publicly three one of whom you probably know Bruce Gilley, he's the fellow who will the. Paper in defensive colonialism, and they targeted him as well for for that behavior. One of the most satisfying things about these universities is exactly that's sort of sort of social pressure. I have friends on the left, and it obviously exists on Twitter and social media that even on my birthday, I would receive birthday messages from people privately and people wouldn't say publicly. Lest you be known as human. We're speaking with professors, Peter ocean and mathematician, James Lindsay air, the authors of the so-called so-called square. Hoax paper. Now professor Peter where did this idea of begin? What what was the purpose of this experiment from the very beginning. What what drove you to do this? What drove us to do this as I was deeply concerned, and I share this with James, and there's another member of our team Helen pluck those who lives in England who's not here with us today. But I was deeply concerned that there was a lack of diversity of voices in the academy that students were not hearing the other side of the aisle of the argument. And again, I'm coming at this from someone who's liberal am not religious, and I was deeply concerned that people could not feel free to voice their opinions on issues, and we saw that this was emanating from all of this talk city was emanating from basically any any branch of university that have the word studies in it. And so long story short the original socal hoax. We did a hoax. Call conceptual penises a social construct and a lot of people criticize that original hoax. And so what we did is we took all of the criticism. And we address it all this next round and the outcome. Was that out of how many papers you guys wrote? How many were? Considering how many were actually accepted by these so-called academic studies journals? Jim. Twenty which in ten months, which is about one every two weeks. If you've ever written an academic paper for audience members who don't know typically one or two a year is good for. So we did twenty and ten months. Dozen of them were accepted. One the dog humping paper was was recognized for excellence and geography seven more were still under review the first six that we wrote were actually kind of pure hoses where we didn't try to learn the field, and none of those succeeded it's harder to hoax than we thought. It would be. So we actually spent the last maybe two thirds of our time writing papers learning how to like, the people think understanding the activists machine was an academia as if we are those people, and then, you know, intentionally exaggerating it so that the papers would be funny and and would make good points. And all of that lets you win the Wall Street Journal caught us we had seven more under review. So we wrote over a quarter million words in ten months, which is. Well, I'll let people make the decision for how much scholarly activities that is. So the response has been back early questions then the response instead of while there's a problem we need to take sincere look to scholarship we wanna valid on more impulses. But we we may be putting an agenda head of the truth. Or maybe you don't even have to say something that's wrong. We just need to take a look at pure review process, and how it's done instead of that it's been reputational attacks on us personal smears, it's been any. It's been anything. But honest, it's and and the one of the consequences of that is again now what they're trying to do is to try to bet these papers better by searching, the authors, making sure that the authors are are who they say that they are. So in other words, that's an admission that they can't even tell the difference between bogus scholarship and this scholarship that comes out of these fields. Well, Jim what what sort of peer review would actually would actually make this better. Because it seems to me it's going to be pretty hard. Have peer reviewed journals at all that are based on such obviously fallacious and empty rhetoric. I mean, if you were able to hoax these folks with stories with papers about conceptual penises dog humping dog parks, then as you say what sort of peer review process would be able to even curate this stuff. It's just too vague. There's no way to have anything truly academic happening in these fields. Well, I think that that's sort of the thing that these fields have been able to be echo chambers where they do their own thing. Right. They're responsible for his too has been to increase the echo chamber knits by only accepting authors that they think can be proven to be in the club. What they need to be doing is letting out people outside of the field review the papers, especially when these papers make sociological conclusions. You probably have listeners of all heard of Robin dandelos idea called white for Jila. Well that white people are fragile and can't handle race discussions is technically sociological concept. So what what's review that not from some philosophical theoretical point? Which is what they do is all theory theory theory, let's put it to the test sociology sociology sociological levels of rigor they used to pistol methods and theologists were real quick after we came public with our project to say, hey, look, you mentioned sociology has a problem. But you didn't get any papers in the sociology. Journal. We think we're better than I'm glad I want sociology. Hey, look airfields better than what these people say gender. Studies are doing and they should be trying to distinguish themselves. Meanwhile, if a paper in gender studies wants to claim a sociological conclusion, which they all do they want to tell us about how society works, they'd better hassle. And who could both geologists and statistician philosophers in there that are outside of the bubble. And see if they follow the reason in the logic. And the conclusion generation you could throw some biologists on there to say for social constructivism is a valid get that get some outside review on that. The papers are more difficult to publish retroactively reviewed afterwards to see what happens, and they could clean yourself up. Well, thank you guys for doing the hard work of actually trying to expose this stuff and hopefully make the process better professors, Peterberg, ocean and mathematician, James Lindsay. Thanks so much for doing all this. I'm sorry. You're going through what you have to go through. And we're out here in support of of anything that makes academia better. Thanks for your time. Appreciate it. Coming up. I want to talk about another debacle. That's happening. It's unfolding right now at Harvard in attempts to take down a young brilliant black Styler who's being destroyed by the metoo movement. We'll talk about that in just a second. First. Let's talk about your car sooner or later, your car is going to break down. It's a fact every car.

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"News and information, five seventy KLIF. Welcome back. This is the Ben Shapiro show. So there was a story that I just loved last year is just an amazing amazing story. A trio of writers is according to Robby suave over a reason a trio of writers who described themselves as left leaning, but decried the academic influence of political correctness identity politics than what they call grievance. Studies conducted an experiment could they fall scholarly journals into publishing hoax papers masquerading as legitimate scholarship. The answer. It turns out was yes. Seven journals accepted the fake papers which were written by James Lindsay mathematician. Helen pluck rose enter of area and Peterberg ocean and assistant professor philosophy at Portland state university, a bunch of these papers were actually published one of them were about one of them was about fat bodybuilding, which was actually published by the journal fat studies claiming that bodybuilding was fat exclusionary, and they wanted a new term fat bodybuilding. There's another one that was that was posted by the journal of poetry therapy, describing monthly feminist spirituality meetings, complete with a warm room and discussing six palms. Which were generated by Mr. Lindsey through algorithm, and then lightly edited. And this went through a pair of you process, and then with polish, and then there was affiliated with a peer reviewed journal of limited social work. They accepted the trio's hoax. Paper our struggle is my struggle solidarity feminism as an intersectional reply to neoliberal and choice them. It is the second portion of the paper is a basic rewrite of mine. It was which is just spectacular. There is another paper. There was also published called rape culture and queer performance at urban dog parks all about how a dog parks, the dogs were humping each other. And when the humping was male on male owners were intervening more often than when it was male on female. So this obviously showed that the owners were homophobic. So bottom line is a lot of these papers published these papers. Well, now, it turns out that the professors are going to be published for it not the hoax papers. Not. I mean, not not the not the stupid S J W journals not any of that the people who are going to be punished are going to be people people like Peter ocean is now being investigated by the Portland state university institutional review board because they say it's unethical for him to use human test subjects in the course of his experiment. Professor, Peter promotion and fester, James Lindsay. Thanks for joining the show. Thanks for having a thrown back as a professor let's start with you. What is the latest status? So what what exactly was the claim against you? When the university came after you, and what's the status of the investigation. You can just call me, Peter. So the were to claims against me, and I was found guilty of one, and that's not going to the Rb, which is human subjects and found guilty need training. Go in it's been escalated to the president and the provost and the other charges still under investigation, which is the fabrication of data. And they only looked looked at one of those papers, and the paper that you named full maturity and and rape culture over dog parks in Portland, Oregon. So that investigation is ongoing. Okay. And and what has been the impact? With for your social circle. I mean, you guys have done something undoable at unsaleable. You've actually mentioned that there are a bunch of academic journals that are not very academic that are basically willing to accept an enormous amounts of gobbledygook that fills certain basic narrative preconditions, professor Lindsey, what has been the the other professors accepted as have other people in your profession except to this or have you become an outcast now for for violating the code. Well, you can call me gentlemen, said it all that. Okay. Not a professor, I left academia a number of years ago. So my my professional blowback has been zero which is great personally. Read the situation on my friends think this is a great. And then some of my friends are I guess so called friends, they're like people don't let politics get in between find it difficult to share a room with me now. So there's been a lot of unfortunate. You know, I've become a pariah to some of my closer, friends and. To see where your real friends like boy bagging my local circles, professionally it's been okay for me. Not as good for Pete Peterson's. Let's ask you. How's it been for you considering that Evatt and blowback not just from your university from from some of your peers? Extraordinarily interesting. I I've had a lot of letters of support from really world's leading public intellectual suppose ski anchor Dawkins height Peterson get it the list goes on Christine, Alzheimer's. Many of my peers are livid the Portland state university. Vanguard public- hit piece on me when eleven ten or eleven of my peers. Came out and at a picture of me as a villain with a big nose on my my face and. A hit piece, and they basically accused me of undermining crossed in Portland state university in the institution, and they published that anonymously. College would even put your name to it. And then people will come up to me, some of whom will be extremely supportive, but every single time I say, thank you for your support. I really appreciate it. Would you voice that publicly only two professors in the entire university would voice their support public publicly three one of whom you probably know Bruce Gilley, the fellow who will the. The paper in defensive Coney was bay targeted him as well for for that behavior of the massaging things about these universities is exactly that's sort of sort of social pressure. I have friends on the left, and it obviously exists on Twitter in social media that L even on my birthday. I would receive birthday messages from people privately and people wouldn't say publicly. Lest you be known as as a human. We're speak with professors, Peterberg ocean and mathematician, James Lindsay. They were the authors of the so-called so-called swear hoax paper. Now professor Peter where did this idea of begin? What what was the purpose of this experiments from the very beginning? What what drove you to do this? Drove us to do this as I was deeply concerned, and I share this with James, and there's another member of our team Helen pluck those who lives in England who's not here with us today. But I was deeply concerned that there was a lack of diversity of voices in the academy that students were not hearing the other side of the aisle of the argument. And again, I'm coming at this from someone who's liberal, and I'm not religious, and I was deeply concerned that people could not feel free to voice their opinions on issues, and we saw that this was emanating from all of this talk city was emanating from basically any any branch of the university and had the word studies in it. And so long story short original socal hoax. We did a hoax called the conceptual penis is a social construct and a lot of people criticize that original hoax. And so what we did is we took all of the criticism. And we address it all this next round and the outcome. Was that out of how many papers that you guys wrote? How many were? Considering how many were actually accepted by these so-called academic studies journals? Jim twenty which in ten months, which is about one every two weeks. If you've ever written an academic paper for audience members who don't know typically one or two a year is good for academics. So we did twenty and ten months. Seven of them were accepted. One the dog humping paper was recognized for excellence and feminist geography. Seven more were still under review the first six that we wrote were actually kind of pure hotels where we didn't try to learn the field, and none of those succeeded. It's harder to hoax them. We thought it would be. So we actually spent the last maybe two thirds of our time writing papers learning how to like the people think understanding the. Activists machine was in academia, as if we are those people, and then, you know, intentionally exaggerating it so that the papers would be funny and and would make good points. And all of that lets you win the Wall Street Journal caught us we had seven more under review. So we wrote over a quarter million words in ten months, which is. Well, I'll let people make the decision for how much scholarly activity that is. So the response has been back your early questions response instead of wild. There's a problem we need to take sincere look at the scholarship. We want to validate on more impulses. But we may be putting an agenda head of the truth. Or maybe you don't even have to say something that's wrong. We just need to take a look at purity process and how it's done instead of that. It's been reputational attacks on us personal smears, it's been. Any it's been anything. But honest, it's and and the one of the consequences of the fact is again now what they're trying to do is try to bet these papers better by searching, the authors, making sure that the authors are are who they say that they are. So in other words, got an admission that they can't even tell the difference between bogus scholarship and this scholarship that comes out of these fields. Well, Jim what sort of peer review would actually would actually make this better? Because it seems to me it's going to be pretty hard to have peer reviewed journals at all that are based on such obviously fallacious and empty rhetoric. I mean, if you were able to hoax these folks with stories with papers about conceptual penises and dog humping dog parks. Then as you say what sort of peer review process would be able to even curate this stuff. It's just too vague. There's no way to have anything truly academic happening. These fields. Well, I think that that sort of the thing that these fields have been able to be echo chambers where they do their own thing. Right. They're responsible for his too has been to increase the echo chamber nece by only accepting authors that they think can be proven to be in the club. What they need to be doing flooding out people outside of the field review the papers, especially when these papers makes total geological conclusions. You probably have listeners have all heard of Robin dandelos idea called white virginity. Well that the white people are fragile can't handle race faces. Discussions is technically a sociological concept. What's review that not from philosophical theoretical point? Which is what they do is all theory theory theory, let's put it to the test sociologically sociology sociological levels of rigor they used to physical methods and sociology were real quick after we came public with our project to say, hey, look, you mentioned sociology has a problem. But you didn't get any papers in the sociology. Journal. We think we're better than I'm glad I want sociology. Hey, look airfields better than what these people say gender. Studies are doing and they should be trying to distinguish themselves. Meanwhile, if a paper in gender studies wants to claim a sociological conclusion, which they all do they wanna tell us about how society works better have sociological rigor, and who could both geologists and statisticians philosophers in there that are outside of the bubble in they follow the reason in the logic. And the conclusion generation you could throw some biologists on there to say if the social constructivism is valid get that get some outside review on that. That their papers are more difficult to publisher retroactively reviewed afterwards to see what happens, and they can clean yourself. Well, thank you guys for doing the hard work of actually trying to expose this stuff and hopefully make the process better professors, Peterberg, ocean and mathematician, James Lindsay. Thanks so much for doing all this. I'm sorry that you're going through what you have to go through. And we're out here in support of of anything that makes me a better. Thanks for your time. Appreciate it. Coming up. I want to talk about another debacle the tapping. It's unfolding right now at Harvard in attempt to take down a young brilliant. Black Stoller was being destroyed by the metoo movement. We'll talk about that in just a second. First. Let's talk about your car sooner or later, your car is gonna break down. It's a fact every car truck SUV owner knows if you're lucky it's going to happen while you're still under manufacturer's warranty. But if it happens after the warranty expires, you.

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"It was revealed that a trio of researchers. Had perpetrated what they viewed as a. As as a as an important work that needed to be done. Work that exposed how crazy things had gotten in the peer reviewed journals and in education to where you couldn't question authority, but you could be you could be published even if you had crazy ideas as long as you spoke, the right language didn't really even have to make sense, you could take things from Hitler. And if you catch them in the right terms, and you were making a point about feminism. You might pretty well get that thing published peer reviewed. Well, the guy who is really responsible for this really the the the mastermind behind it. Who started it is is Dr Peter golden and Dr Bogosian joins us. Now. There's there's more to this story. Not we covered it in the fall. But now the fallout has happened. He's in trouble with the university and assistant professor of philosophy at Portland state university, Dr Peter doctor, how are you? Good to talk to you just a quick correction on that younger all equally a team on this project. And so I there's no was no masterminded this. We all participated equally. Okay. But your the only one so far that's in trouble. That's correct. So the university system has a thorny over me they exercise dominion over me. Where's james? He does not work in the academy. And Helen pluck rose does not working academy. Okay. I was clearly the most vulnerable of three all right now. Look, I'm sure we don't agree on a hundred million things. But that doesn't that doesn't bother me at all. I look for people who have intellectual integrity. And if you log intellectual integrity, and you are married to the truth. And, you know, hey, come what may if I find that to be truth, and I need to adopt that I'm cool with that person. That doesn't go ahead. Sorry, interrupt Zazi attitude and the positive when taking our universities now. And that's not what's happening. But isn't it? How how is it the university system? They don't see themselves becoming the Catholic church and people like you as Galileo. Well, that's a really really pertinent question. And we gave argued in area magazine, for example, that this is a new religion. And so as you see the decline of Abraham traditions, particularly Christianity something has fill that void. I think that this makes sense in a lot of ways to view these folks as religious really th they're kind of having evangelism for social Justice. They have political correctness which is blast for me. They have privilege, which is the analog to original sin. And so they're really operating in this Wasi religious context of the data. They don't consider themselves religious. So when you look at it through that lens their behavior makes sense. And what's happening? Now is that universities are so. They're not they've become social centers of social Justice advocacy, notch sensors were people find the truth. So they've placed an agenda ahead of the truth. And we tried to shine a light on that. Because we think it's hurting people. So are are you in the vast minority or you in the majority, but the only vocal ones. How prevalent is your philosophy especially because if I'm not mistaken, you're on the left. I would consider. I'm I consider myself a a classical liberal. Okay. And that's what's very well. It's what's very interesting is that ten fifteen years ago. I would be the guy that parents would come in to warn their kids about now on the guy the whole institution has swung. So far to the left that I'm the guy conservative and religious parents, and I wrote a manual for creating atheists. So we we have some you and I have some substantive metaphysical disagreements, but again, those can be worked out in conversation with parents come to me now. And and tell them that they want their kids to study with me, and it's just the most fascinating twist in the culture war. The fact that you, and I are having this conversation now is another fascinating twist in the culture war. And I think the commonality there is we might disagree about interpretations of facts. But both you and I share route m just commonalities like we both agree. There's an extra world we both agree that your subjective experiences the world. Don't Trump any objective reality? We both agree that we don't want a punt anybody being punched, right? We wanna work out our lowest common denominator, but unfortunately, has to be said in this in this cultural environment. So we both value the truth, and we both value. The fact that we can have conversations in which not only can we get to the truth. But. It's okay. If we disagree. I wanna know what you think. And if I'm wrong about something. I don't want to be wrong. Sam Harris has dedicated working. I don't wanna be quotation. I don't wanna be wrong one second more than I have to be exactly right here. As long as we we share that attitude. It's are talk about what is the highest woman friendship between being between two virtuous people. If both people love the truth. That's ultimately, the only thing that matters. They have integrity. So I I mean, I'm a classic liberal as well. I am very religious. But I don't I mean, I have no I have many eighth Theus friends. I don't I I'm not trying to save them. And I'm not condemning them or whatever just live your life, man and live your life to the best that you can is what is the system that you're living under making you a better human being or a worst human being. And I know people who are very religious who it makes them a much worse human being. And and that's what we should all be striving for is. How can we respect each other's rights? Hugh, basic, human, constitutionally guarded, human rights. Leave people alone. That is that is a view I share. But that is not what's coming out of these bodies of literature in what we term grievance. Studies basically anything that has studies at the end of it one of the things that is coming out of this is the is an overt racism in the in the name of non racism, it's an anti male. Basically, it's identifying people on the basis of their immutable characteristics. For example, their skin color or some stat. Right. Martin Luther King's dream is absolutely dead right now. That's correct. It's not that we judge people on the content of the character, not the color of their skin. It's the other way around so we, but but which worse than that is that we see from these bodies literature. And this is really what I want people understand people think. Well, why does this affect me? Well, it affects you because this stuff is being taught in school to our kids, and they don't develop robust defenses of their ideas. They don't even many many. People who have alternative opinions, for example, conservatives or libertarians or Christians they don't feel comfortable voicing those opinions in the classroom. So not only do students other students not get the fate of learning. Why people believe things right? That's the philosopher. You're good harbor moss. We want to speak to people that we understand where they're coming from. And when you understand where we're someone's coming from especially in this incredibly polarized environment. It's much easier to look at them as people to understand their point of view and to have compassion toward them. If you look at the literature coming out of these fields. There's no mercy. There's no compassion. There's a weird sense of redemption. If you're quote unquote woke, but these these bodies of literature causing contention they're causing damage, they're they're hurting people. And that's why we decided to do this project because someone needed to shine a spot. Light on this. Okay. Let me just take a quick minute break one minute break. And then we're gonna come back, and I want to hear what's happening to you at the university, and how people can get involved in in changing this when we come back. First one minute to tell you about twenty three and me their new partner of the show this year. I'm an adopted son..

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"Independent in thoughts and punk rock in life. It's the Benson show. I came across his articles about the stories that these the quote, unquote. Papers that got published by these three people that were just amazing and sure enough academia was fold somewhat and joining us now he teaches at Portland state is Dr Peter because the philosophy. What are you teaching up there to Portland state, Portland state? Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. I love it. So let's give a background that that Helen pluck rose. And then James Lindsay and yourself Dr Peter, but goes, and you guys did these funny crazy wacky kind of grievance study things that you put out there for the academia world, and it kind of was well, I it it embarrassed them. But it was I opening to a lot of us. Yeah. It was. So we we know we've known for a long time. This is pretty much common knowledge among everybody doesn't immerse themselves in these fields. We call them grievance. Studies get there is a. Problem emanating from the scholarship in these fields and basically to be blunt with you it corrupted. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's completely corrupted. And it it's it's nuts. How corrupted it is. And I don't think people understand that. No. I don't. And so perhaps we could linger on that in a moment. So what he normally in a scientific discipline in any kind of endeavour. What you do is you try to find the truth? But you don't seek the truth. If you think you already had it, and you disciplined believe the people in these disciplines believe they're already in possession of the truth. And so they just look for data to support or they just make it up, basically. Data support the clue conclusions that they already have. So basically in a nutshell, they put an agenda before the truth. Now, two things that I think it's worth noting here, these people these folks are teaching your kids, and they're teaching your kids ideas that are totally until the to reality seven of these papers and seven years get somebody tenure. And we the three of us did twenty and a year, and we got caught by the Wall Street Journal, but we had seven accepted or published and we had about seven more ready to go. So there's a corruption of scholarship it's at the highest levels of academia, these people are using this to credential themselves, and then they're teaching your kids things that have just simply untrue. Which is which is terrifying because they are teaching our young binds who you think you know, what I always thought. Correct me if I'm wrong. Dr goes, I always thought that you go to school place like college, and it should be as open minded as possible where you're coming in. And you're going to see what the world's like, and you want to get everything thrown at you, not just one side, but academia has been completely just infiltrated with one side of the aisle. That is like you said things like these grievance. Studies takeover a campus at time and infiltrate in a way that I think is very dangerous for society. It's an enormous problem. And I want to you you can call me, Peter. But I wanna talk about something you said there really is not a value placed upon diversity. And while the same folks scream diversity at the rooftops. They need it only in the most superficial sense, gender, diversity, sexual orientation, racial diversity. But they don't mean, FOX diversity. They don't want people to have different. Thoughts they want? They look at the classroom classrooms an ideology mill where they can doctorate students again this. We're talking about large swaths of humanity's just an effect affected the stem fields yet. Although it's it's slightly percolating into those fields. But when you look at the classroom as an ideology mail and your students to be indoctrinated. Then all you need to do is you need to point to these bogus pieces of literature and say, look, here's the evidence. Here's the evidence. And you start pointing to be seen. But there is no that's not evidence. That's just stop people made up and they published in the journal. It's not evidence. If anything it's make believe. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy talk Dr Peter because he's philosophy professor at Portland state, as we talk about the papers that you guys got published and how you took on academia. And again, you guys are I'm sure neither none of you are probably very conservative. But you see there. What's going on in the campus? And you talked about, you know, the thought and to me I always said the. Versity true diversity starts in your mind. Everything else is very superficial. When you look at this and one thing, I don't think when I seen interviews with you. And listen to you before talk that people don't talk and stress enough about or ask questions about is these young people who are getting indoctrinated who are hearing one side of the story, they're coming into society. And they're going to be coming out in droves over the coming years, and that is going to be an issue for society for the workforce that we have for all of these things that's going to change a lot of things. And I don't think it's for the better. I'm Greg you you put your finger on that. Because many people will look at what we've done, and they won't understand how it affects them. So I think it's I think we should talk about that. But we may want to talk about some of the horrible ideas in this paper that these kids are getting so some of the ideas that we wrote about about so it's basically all of the notions of race, gender and sexual orientation. And so these folks want to. And again, this isn't me saying that this is their own literature. That's what makes this so potent. We wrote a piece saying that white men should be heterosexual white men's putting horn on the floor and chains we wrote a piece as a form of experience reparations wrote a piece saying that there should be a category in bodybuilding called stock bodybuilding where people can show off their fat. We will. I don't know. This is a family show. But I probably can't tell we bought a lot about analogy and dildos, and I won't go into the. I've read that paper. And I found it to be hilarious. And the fact that they take you serious Peter is the thing that that really is a should be scary is the fact that academia and people that are peer reviewing this take this serious. And I'm sure in in many ways down deep in there. So they believe a lot of this stuff. And it's insane crew. That's right. So when you live in this ecosystem. This stuff is totally normalised to you. But here's the problem. You're never take ideas that run a re run counter to this mall. Orthodoxy will never get published. So if you wanna put like Dr Martin Luther King's idea of treating a man on the basis of his non-invasive, his skin color, but is caught the contents of his character. That idea would never get published. It's not in vogue anymore. So people will publish ideas that are involved, but they won't publish other ideas. And so specifically these are how heterosexuality is wrong how and then trans issues are a that's a huge can of worms. But that's should be mentioned that that's worth mentioning to that that falls under the umbrella of race and gender. Basically anything that ends in the word. Studies is problematic is been overwritten by ideologues ends agenda-driven. So if your child if you're listening to this, and they want to major in something with the word studies in it, you need to take a really good look at the syllabus at who the professors. Are at the type of publications and actually go to Google Scholar and read the sort of things these people are doing so to get back to your earlier point one of the things that we see happening here is these folks because they have an agenda. They don't value dialogue. They don't. They don't value. Freedom of expression of freedom of thought, they want everybody to think along the same lines that they think what's happening is. We're creating an entire generation of students who have literally never heard the other side of an opinion or they think that and to be clear, you're right. I'm not a conservative. I'm I'm a liberal. They think that all Trump voters are racists and fascists and homophobes, and and it's very easy for them to to other people and call them names. And again, part of the reason for this is that this scholarship that comes out of these fields. It's completely corrupted and the people teaching have an agenda in that agenda is not a liberal agenda better gender from far left. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the thing. I I tell everybody there's a difference between a democrat and somebody who's who who is somewhat of a just a liberal classic liberal and the progressivism far left that's going on. And I think hijacking so much of what what we're talking about right now in academia, talking to Dr Peter goes eight who is a philosophy professor at Portland state. And you know, you guys have gone and you've done all of these things. And of course, you're getting you're getting slapped down by academia, some burying their heads. Others are coming after you guys. But the bigger picture here is one that I think it's missed all too often. Is these people who are getting these insane nonsensical degrees that are going to be worthless are going to be coming out in two to this this world, and they're going to want to bring with them all that they think they know and that is going to affect society in a way that doesn't get talked about because this generations coming fast. Yeah. You're absolutely correct. To put your finger on it you. So you just put your finger on the missing link and the missing link is wireless nurse should care and your listeners should care because what starts in the academy doesn't stay in the category. So trigger warning safe spaces microaggressions, the fact that people never really are our professors aren't allowed to offer their opinion about protected classes professors on their these things called bias response teams were if anybody can fill out a report, and that goes to the lodge in with the police if they think you're being biased in any way. And again, it can be anonymous. So there are mechanisms in place in the university. I'm deeply concerned as an educator and as a parrot, frankly, my son's off to college. Now, I'm deeply concerned that people that are children are not hearing. Yeah. The sides of the issue that when they do encounter an argument that they don't like they freak out. They file a Green Bay file a grievance are. Something diversity office instead of really listening to the argument engaging it I'm deeply concerned about speakers that are disinvited from university platforms. I'm deeply concerned that we're creating an educational system that will erode not only the confidence of the people externally looking at the system, but the ability of the people who come out of that's just as productive adults in society. It's just not happening or too brittle. They're too because think about it, and it doesn't even matter who's in power right now. Now it happens to be the far left. But just think about switch decide to far right is in power. If you're in some kind of an evangelical university, and you never heard the other side of an argument about what that would do, you know, if I may. Here's what's interesting with evangelical Christians, you never have to worry about that..

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"Station. KTAR news ninety two three FM. Independent in thoughts and punk rock in life. It's the Chad Benson show. I came across his articles about the stories in that these the quote, unquote. Papers that got published by these three people that were just amazing and sure enough academia was fold somewhat joining us. Now, he teaches at Portland state is Dr Peter because Bogosian philosophy. What are you teaching up there to Portland state, Portland state? Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. I love it. So let's give a background that that Helen pluck rose. And then James Lindsay and yourself Dr Peter goes, you guys did these funny crazy wacky kind of grievance study things that you put out there for the academia world at it kind of was well, it's an embarrassed them. But it was eye-opening to a lot of us. Yeah. It was. So we we know we've known for a long time. This is pretty much common knowledge among everybody who doesn't immerse themselves in these fields. We call them grievance. Studies. There is a problem emanating from the scholarship in these fields and basically to be blunt with you, it's corrupted. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's completely corrupted. And and it it's it's nuts. How corrupted it is. And I don't think people understand that. No. I don't. And so perhaps we could linger on that in a moment. So what normally in a scientific discipline in any kind of endeavour. What you do is you try to find the truth? But you don't seek the truth. If you think you already had it and used disciplines believes the people in these disciplines believe they're already in possession of the truth. And so they just look at the data to support or they just make it up, basically. Data support the clue conclusions that they already have. So basically in a nutshell, they put an agenda before the truth. Now, two things that I think it's worth noting here, these people these folks are teaching your kids, and they're teaching your kids ideas that are totally untethered to reality. Seven of these papers and seven years get somebody tenure. And we the three of us did twenty in a year, and we got caught by the Wall Street Journal, but we had seven accepted or published and we had about seven more ready to go. So there's a corruption of scholarship it's at the highest levels of academia, these people are using this to credential themselves, and then they're teaching your kids things that are just simply untrue. Which is which is terrifying because they are teaching our young binds who you think you know, what I always thought. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dr because I always thought that you go to school plays like a college, and it should be as open minded as possible where you're coming in. And you're going to see what the world's like, and you want to get everything thrown at you, not just one side, but academia has been completely just infiltrated with one side of the aisle. That is like you said things like these grievance. Studies takeover a campus at time and infiltrate in a way that I think is very dangerous for society. An enormous problem. And I want to you. You can call me, Peter. But I wanna talk about something you said there really is not a value placed upon diversity. And while the same folks screen diversity at the the rooftops. They need it only in the most superficial sense, gender, diversity, sexual orientation, racial diversity. But they don't mean, FOX diversity. They don't want people to have different thoughts. They want. They look at the classroom is an ideology mill where they can indoctrinate students. Now again this. We're talking about large swaths of this hasn't affected the stem fields yet, although it's slightly percolating into those fields. But when you look at the classroom as an ideology mail and your students to be indoctrinated. Then all you need to do is you need to point to these bogus pieces of literature and say, look, here's the evidence. Here's the evidence. And you start pointing to DC, but there is no evidence. That's not evidence. That's just stuff people made up and they published in the journal. It's not evidence. If anything. Make believe. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy talking to Dr Peter because he's blossomed professor at Portland state, as we talk about the papers that you guys got published and how you took on academia. And again, you guys are I'm sure neither none of you are probably very conservative. But you see there. What's going on in the campus? And you talked about, you know, the thought and to me, I always said diversity true. Diversity starts in your mind. Everything else is very superficial. When you look at this and one thing, I don't think when I seen interviews with you. And listen to you before talk that people don't talk and stress enough about or ask questions about is these young people who are getting indoctrinated who are hearing one side of the story, they're coming into society. And they're going to be coming out in droves over the coming years, and that is going to be an issue for society for the workforce that we have for all of these things that's going to change a lot of things. And I don't think it's for the better. I'm greg. You put your finger on that. Because many people will look at what we've done, and they won't understand how it affects them. So I think it's I think we should talk about that. But we may want to talk about some of the horrible ideas in this paper that these kids are getting so some of the ideas that we wrote about about so it's basically all of the notions of race, gender and sexual orientation. And so these folks want to. And again, this isn't me saying that this is their own literature. That's what makes this so potent. We wrote a piece that white men should be put heterosexual white men should be putting horn on the floor and chains. We wrote a piece as a form of experiential reparations wrote a piece saying that there should be a category in bodybuilding called stock bodybuilding where people can show off their fat. We will. I don't know. This is a family show. But I probably can't tell we lit a lot about analogy and dildos, and I won't go into the I've read that paper. And I found it to be hilarious. And the fact that they take you serious Peter is the thing that that really is a should be scary is the fact that academia and people that are peer reviewing this take this serious, and I'm sure in many ways down deepen their soul. They believe a lot of this stuff. And it's insane. That's true. That's right. So when you live in this eco system. This stuff is totally normalised to you. But here's the problem. You're never take ideas that run around run counter to this mall. Orthodoxy will never get published. So if you wanna put like Dr Martin Luther King's idea of treating a man on the basis of his none of the basis of skin color, but is caught the content of his character. That idea would never get published. It's not in vogue anymore. So people will publish ideas that are in vogue, but they won't publish other ideas. And so specifically these are how heterosexuality is wrong how and then trans issues are a that's a huge can of worms. But that's should be mentioned that that's worth mentioning to that that falls under the umbrella of race and gender. Basically anything that ends in the word. Studies is problematic is been overridden by ideologues ends agenda-driven. So if your child if you're listening to this, and they want to major in something with the word studies in it, you need to take a really good look at the syllabus at who the professors. Are at the type of publications and actually go to Google Scholar and read the sort of things these people are doing so to get back to your earlier point one of the things that we see happening here is these folks because they have an agenda. They don't value dialogue. They don't. They don't value. Freedom of expression of freedom of thought, they want everybody to think along the same lines that they think what's happening is. We're creating an entire generation students who have literally never heard the other side of an opinion or they think that and to be clear, you're right. I'm not a conservative. I'm I'm a liberal. They think that all Trump voters are racists and fascists and homophobes, and and it's very easy for them to to other people and call them names. And again, part of the reason for this is that this scholarship that comes out of these fields. It's it's completely corrupted and the people teaching have an agenda, and that agenda is not a liberal agenda. Better gender is the from far left. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the thing. And I tell everybody there's a difference between a democrat and somebody who's who who is somewhat of a just a liberal classic liberal and the progressivism for left that's going on. And I think hijacking so much of what what we're talking about right now in academia, talking to Dr Peter goes at who is a philosophy professor at Portland state. And you know, you guys have gone and you've done all of these things. And of course, you're getting you're getting slapped down by academia summer burying their heads. Others are coming after you guys. But the bigger picture here is one that I think it's missed all too often. Is these people who are getting these insane nonsensical degrees that are going to be worthless are going to be coming out in to to do this this world, and they're gonna wanna bring with them all that. They think they know and that is going to affect society in a way that doesn't get talked about because this generations coming fast. Yeah. You're absolutely correct. To put your finger on you. So you just put your finger on the missing link and the missing link is wireless nurse should care and your listeners should care because what starts in the academy doesn't stay in the caddy so trigger warning safe spaces microaggressions, the fact that people never really are our professors aren't allowed to offer their opinion about protected classes professors on and there are these things called bias response teams were if anybody can fill out a report, and that goes that's watching and with the police if they think you're being biased in any way. And again, it can be anonymous. So there are mechanisms in place in the university. I'm deeply concerned as an educator, and as a parent, frankly, my son's off to college. Now, I'm deeply concerned that people that our children are hearing your the sides of the issue that when they do in an argument that they don't like they freak out. They file agreed. They file a grievance or. Something with the diversity office. Instead of really listening to the argument engaging it deeply concerned about speakers that are disinvited from university platforms and deeply concerned that we're creating an educational system that will erode not only the confidence of the people externally looking at the system, but the ability of the people who come out that's just the function as productive adults in society. It's just don't have to brittle. They're too. Because think about it doesn't even matter who's in power now. Now it happens to be the far left. But just think about switch decide to fall right is in power, if you're in some kind of Jellicoe university, and you never heard the other side of an argument about what that would do do. You know, if I may. Here's what's interesting with evangelical Christians, you never have to worry about that..

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"Independent in thoughts and punk rock in life. It's the Chad Benson show. I came across his articles about the stories in that these in the quote, unquote. Papers that got published by these three people that were just amazing and sure enough academia was fold somewhat and joining us now he teaches at Portland state, Dr Peter Biko's philosophy. What are you teaching up there at Portland state, teach waspy Portland state? Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. I love it. So let's give a background that that Helen pluck rose. And James Lindsay and yourself Dr Peter because you guys did these funny crazy wacky kind of grievance study things that you put out there for the academia world, and it kind of was well, it's an embarrassed them. But it was I opening to a lot of us. It was so we we know we've known for a long time pretty much common knowledge among everybody who doesn't immerse themselves in these fields. We call them grievance. Studies. Get there is a problem emanating from the scholarship in these fields and basically to be blunt with you, it's corrupted. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's completely corrupted. And it it's it's nuts. How corrupted it is. And I don't think people understand that. No. I don't. And so perhaps we could linger on that in a moment. So what normally in the scientific discipline in any kind of endeavour. What you do is you try to find the truth? But you don't speak the truth. If you think you already have it and use disciplines believe the people in these disciplines believe they're already in possession of the truth. And so they just look the data to support or are. They just make it up basically data support the clue conclusions. If they already have so basically in a nutshell, they put an agenda before the truth. Now truce things that I think it's worth noting here, these people these folks are teaching your kids, and they're teaching your kids ideas that are totally untethered to reality. Seven of these papers and seven years get somebody tenure. And we the three of us did twenty and a year, and we got caught by the Wall Street Journal, but we had seven accepted or published and we had about seven more ready to go. So there's a corruption of scholarship it's at the highest levels of academia, these people are using this to credential themselves, and then they're teaching your kids things that have just simply untrue. Which is which is terrifying because they are teaching our young binds who you think you know, what I always thought. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dr because I always thought that you you go to school place like a college, and it should be as open minded as possible where you're coming in. And you're going to see what the world's like, and you want to get everything thrown at you, not just one side, but academia has been completely just infiltrated with one side of the aisle. That is like you said things like these grievance. Studies takeover a campus at time and infiltrate in a way that I think is very dangerous for society. It's an enormous problem. And I want to you you can call me, Peter. But I wanna talk about something you said there really is not a value placed upon diversity. And while the same folks scream diversity at the rooftops. They needed only in the most superficial sense, gender, diversity, sexual orientation, racial diversity. But they don't mean, FOX diversity. They don't want people to have different. Thoughts they want? They look at the classroom as an ideology mill where they can doctrine doctorate students. Now again this. We're talking about large losses. Humanities. This hasn't affected the stem fields yet, although it's slightly percolating into those fields. But when you look at the classroom as an ideology mail and your students to be indoctrinated. Then all you need to do is you need to point to these bogus pieces of literature and say, look, here's the evidence. Here's the evidence. And you start pointing to be seen. But there is no that's not evidence. That's just stop people made up and they published in the journal. It's not evidence. If anything it's make believe. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy talking to Dr Peter Murkowski, he's blossom festival Portland state, as we talk about the papers that you guys got published and how you took on academic. And again, you guys are I'm sure neither none of you are probably very conservative..

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01:55 min | 3 years ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on The Andrew Klavan Show

"They usually publish and no, they couldn't the academic journals accepted articles on subjects like dog rape culture, fat body building, and whether it's okay to put white male students in chains to help them overcome their sense of comfort. I am not making this up, but in what is perhaps their masterpiece prankster academics. James Lindsay Peter goes in and Helen pluck rose submitted a rewritten section of Adolf Hitler's psychopathic screed mine comp to one of the top feminist journals in the country affiliate and affiliate accepted. It affiliate editor shrieking Virago defended her decision to run Hitler spe- saying, quote, you know, it seems we got this Hitler. Fellow all wrong. When conservatives demanded liberty for all and limits on government power, we used to call them Hitler because we thought that's what Hitler believed, but it turns out Hitler wasn't such a bad fellow after all, and he wanted to use victim ideology to oppress people just like we do. In fact, we would invite Mr. Hitler to speak at our next feminist conference if it weren't for the fact, he's a dead white male, which could prejudice some feminists against his otherwise palatable views. So I guess some other feminists will have to stand in for Hitler, pounding the podium and screaming hate-filled inanities, which will at least prove that a woman can do that just as well as any man on quote and okay, I did make that quote up, but the rest of the story is totally true. And while you might think accepting an article by Hitler would give the girls at affiliate. Second thoughts about their own philosophy, not at all to do that would be to accept anti-feminist values like reason and decency trigger warning. I'm Andrew klavan, and this is the Andrew klavan show. Also say. Thompson zippy's. So..

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"helen pluck" Discussed on Guys We F****d

Guys We F****d

04:14 min | 3 years ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on Guys We F****d

"Welcome to guys. We fucked. Is weak guys book, Christina? I'm Karen. Sorry about last night. The anti-smut shaming podcasts. I never. But, but but the Helo fuckers, welcome to another episode of guys. We fucked. It's the anti-slug chaining podcast. I am Karen, I'm Christina. And you know, you really got watch out for boys, you know, 'cause they're relies could get real incorrect. Did you know that you know, you could ruin a boy's life. Don't do that current. I well, boys life isn't. It's been the false AKIs conversation for a long to has the hashtag him to move out that made me laugh. Is that are you fucking series? Is you didn't hear about that? I haven't been going on the internet because I'm over at, yeah, I get well, I get angry at ever everyone just not even not even just those angry at everyone right now. I hope that Ted Cruz is dick falls off and Lindsey, Graham has to eat it. Yeah, I wanna watch him eat it. There's hashtag him to it was there was this whole thing started by tag him too much of a piece of shit. Well, there's this whole. Thing and commercial. That was started by Catholic mothers and they're running this commercial being, you know, it's, it's just like a bunch of shots of like, you know, boys knees and basketball rolling next to it and they're like, they're like, he's your son raised him. Oh, you educate him to me. You let him suck your teat until he's way too old loves that t- too much. And then one day it can all be taken away from him by an accusation by a whore interpret. Yeah, that's basically, I mean, that was my dick Bridget and I'm gonna falsely accuse you right. Get the fuck over yourself. If you're afraid you're pussy. Oh, my truly here man, and you're afraid of that. Get over it because it's not you're, you're just shut up. Okay. Anyway, hi guys, guys, we podcasts then please shut up men's voices matter tail, but not at this point in time. Thank you. Okay. Well, I have a controversial news story. People get mad at me about us, no Sunday, that would that would be the. I mean, listen, that's how you told me by reading on my narcissist, but I would not make the news story a new story about us. All right, that's hilarious. I mean, scooters hard. Yes, but this is no. Okay. So this is a bunch of random on Twitter, academics and stuff. Basically, you know, Jon Ronson adjacent people, but others too. And so there was three academics or there are three academics, Helen pluck, rose, James, Lindsay, and Peter buck Hocine. Sorry, I'm butchering names and their three academics there. There's all people on the left side and what they did is they spent the last year hoax seeing some of the best journals in relevant fields, and this is the kind of stuff like, because I know people get upset when I say like fake news. Number one, that phrase has been destroyed by Donald Trump. I know. But what I mean by fake news is just like there's a lot of stuff out there that is based in feeling rather than fact. And I know it's very difficult because having since the dawn of time, it's worse now though, and it's not a lot of internet publications, and that's especially because especially young people are getting so much of their news from internet publication and we think about it anything can go up on the internet. So there's a couple things you have to do. I mean, obviously, in the about section of any online publication, you can go and read it and. Kind of get an idea if these people are writing from the rate perspective from the left perspective or from somewhere in the middle, hopefully a little bit neutral. That's the sources I look for. Yeah, and that's why I'm like really always like very wary of all these publications because they always have some kind of agenda even like working for Michael Moore, who when I worked for him in college, I love so so much. Of course, he had an agenda. Of course, you had an angle and it was so interesting working for him because I knew how the movie turned out, but I was working in the archives allot and transcribing I personally worked on sicko..

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"helen pluck" Discussed on The Michael Knowles Show

The Michael Knowles Show

03:19 min | 3 years ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on The Michael Knowles Show

"The grievance studies thing is so wonderful one, you know there, there's women's gender and sexuality studies, ethnicity, race in my Gration studies, African American studies. This is that you know, all of the grievance studies majors really like the thing that they're aggrieved about, you know. So they, they really like gender studies. They really like women, women and gender studies. African American studies is really complimentary of the contributions of African Americans. The only one that this is not true for is American studies, which is a discipline devoted to denigrating America in literature in history all over the place. So I really like this because when I was in college and shortly after college, I was running a blog with a buddy of mine where we would just take out quotes from peer reviewed gender studies journals that are so absurd on their face. And we would put them up. I think it's still up there. I think it's apt gender studies, department, hyphen blog, dot tumbler dot com. I believe they still have it up. It was. So they would talk about things like vegetarian EKO feminism's and the role of the where wolf as queer pederasts in Harry Potter. They had a book called query elementary education, which I think is a crime. I'm not sure I haven't checked out the federal laws recently. I think that's a crime or queering the non slash human and it just like total nonsense. So these guys are their names or Helen pluck rose. James, Lindsay, and Peter Bogosian have contributed nonsense articles to grievance studies journals and they've gotten them published. So one paper which was published in the journal called sex roles said that the author had conducted a two year study involving fee Matic and now asus of table dialogue to uncover the mystery of. Why heterosexual men like to eat at hooters. So. It's just picture that image when that to your study is I think I've done that to your study. Actually, I've probably done that study for about fifteen years and I'm still doing it. I'm really getting to the heart of why men like to eat at hooters. Another one of these was from the feminist geography journal. I don't know what separate. I actually I could make a few jokes here, but they're, they're not really that nice to think about. I guess there could be a feminist geography, use your imagination. It parse to the quote, human reactions to rape culture and queer performance ity at dog parks in Portland, Portland, Oregon, the the human reaction to rape culture, a dog parks, and, and you know, if you've ever been to a dog park, I think you can see a lot of hetero normativity there. Although, I don't know. Sometimes dogs have come up to me to a my my my leg is an example of some of the non hetero normative. He may be that the canines getting exhibit and and then there was another one that was published in journal feminist social work. This is the best. One of all is titled our struggle is my struggle. And what it did is it scattered left-wing ideology and little left-wing term. Into a rewriting of Hitler's, mind, calm.

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"helen pluck" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

The Ben Shapiro Show

02:28 min | 3 years ago

"helen pluck" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

"If the Republicans retain the house because of Brad Kavanagh, that would just first of all the insanity that is likely to break out on the back of that will just be on believable, and things will just be nut. So nuts. Hope is is like, say to my children, it'll be crazy, so we can all look forward to that. Okay. Now I have to get to my favorite story of the day. So this is indeed the best story of the day. It is a fantastic story. It's so good. So turns out there are these three professors and these professors, Helen pluck rose, James, Lindsay, and Peter Bogosian, and they decided to prank all the stupid academic journals out there. The story is so great, love it so much. Here's Peter begazi and explaining what exactly they did to prank. These journals. Since approximately June of twenty seventeen I along with two other concerned condemn IX Peterberg ocean, Helen pluck rose. Have been writing intentionally broken academic papers in submitting them to highly respected journal. So fields study, gender, race, sexuality, and similar topics. We did this to expose political corruption. This taken hold of the university. By this point, several of these papers have been accepted in highly respected journals in one that claims. Dog humping incidents can be taken as evidence of rape. Culture has been officially honored as excellent scholarship. I'm not going to lie. We had a lot of fun with this project. Respected, though it's fine. Concern. To believe that we're not addressing serious problem. If you have a few minutes, we'll try to explain. It's so good. It's so good. So what did they do? They submitted all these insane papers to these feminists and gender studies journals, and they all got printed and the papers are unreal. So there's the dog park paper. You heard him described there about why dog humping incidents are rape culture and talked about it on the show here. There's another one crowed paper. Excuse me. It's so good. They wrote a paper claiming though, in a guy privately pleasures himself while thinking about a woman without her consent, in fact, without forever finding out about it that he's committed sexual violence against her that was printed in queer studies journal. They argue, they wrote a paper arguing that the reason super intelligent is potentially dangerous is because it is being programmed..

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