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S2Ep5 Sunday, January 24, 2021 Part 2 of 2
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Please download the free app or go to anchor that fm to get started. Thank you may we. The lord for two selections and we have dr landing ham Putting everything into our hands where she could brain the word on today. Let's say man for a man address you out from working for you. Thank you for your goodness we thank you father outstretched hand. They're all armed protection more. Thank you for keeping us up until this day nor sustaining slava keeping healthy hebron hebron's lalla vs that we have thank you for that we gather today on the sunday morning. Listen to your work as you have given me so i did. You decrease a decrease self as you increase the holy spirit to be able to tell the words of the story in which everybody should know prepare hearts to receive your word over and prepared or understanding comprehend and understand what you're saying to them and that help them to apply in allows this week and furger and jesus name we pray amen. Hey man god bless every wine. This is our last us earlier now for five days. A second to the last sunday of january twenty twenty one guys moving thomas lying interesting things going so even though we're in san denic is it. Seems like today's or just elon by. So we have to regain the time. Glad florida's bless us the have service when each other where we can see each other. Hanley can bring the word of the word together on sundays in almost thirty days on sunday's wednesday nights in prayer i think that he is provided an avenue yet to be able to continue to worship cresa. I'm going to go to the. I'm john saint john. Sage is african as catholic. This is where he's going to tell us how he is the shepherd this is the sheppard chapel sector but i really think that it is worth reviewing and understanding and deciphering where his word is telling us is good to hear from jesus citizens is the ray letter so this means the jesus is speaking so whenever teases toxic gives us a mine are emphasize and understanding what he's saying to us understand. What is command of us. I to do in an understanding wire lessons. Keep as word do any tells us givers. One barely verily i say you. He was interested by the door into the sheet. Cold climates some other way. The same is a a and a robber less interesting right there. He's did he say to us that. Is you know. Enter into the kingdom through the proper mechanism that he has prepare your a liar the and his eyes races. Because you tonight come through the correct way for here for us could possibly be when we're just churchgoers year in the lucky. And i wanted to say to our jesus is the way we'll say here is you. Don't come to the door. Jesus christ and you try to sneak in any other kind of way. You're just like the world you just like detail and well you know people come to church for many different reasons. They'll come to church justifying the s- southie will come to church with out of me taking over or seeing what they could get out of it how they could be controversy. Some of them were coming into the civil with us to see as like a spy to see what we're doing and taken back somewhere. You have many many motives. Accommodate search guide is saying is if you're real learn of me at the heart of the search years is like feet at aligarh. He says in verse two but interest in the door is sheltered. Okay so we know that. Jesus is the shepherd of the sheep. Anything else that comes to try to mimic tries to take away the world or of the devil. So right there. He's saying that you have to make a choice. You have to choose. You're gonna live on the righteous road which is coming through door. Jesus or have you love on the road going to hail. Viability is thick. So right away because you've got to make that choice that you're going to be aware of me or a follower of him to him. The quarter chooses. Jesus christ because the stores importer quarrel over or the door open for you to come in and receive of what god has for you. She hears his voice and he calls his own sheep by les and lead us all. He says she no is she knows like even if we look fairly we know. The voice of our children cries of our children. I know say that. I would david j. She got here. She can distinguish out of every crime because the room was her babies cry because that's her baby as he knows what it is like as he knows that that cries a hunger growing or cry as a distressed or day. Cry is a detail. Mothers knew that. And that's what god is saying here when you door you place your know exactly what. I wonder if you and you would have decided that door. There's you gonna follow me. You made the decision on uk to the door. So now he's saying i waste and they know okay and when he put us for his own he goes before them and the she. So that's saying that the father is always going to be before he leaves us down a good passer. He knows the road for us to to grow for us to be strong. He knows the things that we need to do. In order to be strong to stand before the while vanity. So he goes i. The leader always goes first and then the she follows him because they're looking at the road base locking we talked about really inheritor. We got his hearers. And that's what he has come to show us in. Life is and then we are to mimic his character as we walked on this earth so he goes before because he is a shepherd and we are so he's constantly looking at his baishi making curator growing maybe near near fare plus thousand left is no buzzer in here. I know you know. And there know no foreign creatures like wolves. The things like that will come and try to eat them. He says the protector of his flock. And we are his flock so we look at guy. We locate jesus as a sample to show that we want to walk the right way. Because we're walking a guy's character lose guys here. Well he's alive in bible church is how are you representing god. That show what your character is. Do you care about me. Do you hear hungry that you see me. You come see me when i was incarcerated. I was thinking to hostile to death. That i see you. You commie did you do anything me really cared about me. Did you do anything to show me that. i'm matter character. God when you see here distress you something. i don't. do you do something to help relieve my ailment. I'm so drink the longer. You won't come give me a bottle wire guys character. I'm holding everybody to see me. I'm hungry some ease. Everybody drives guys here. That's what he's looking for. He's looking for how you treat is kingdom as being a sheep are being part of his kreil those that are in the world that really go. No you're not needs an easement. They need some relief for something they need to relieve. Need a place to stay. I don't have shelter hungry. I don't have enough or i'm really cold. Because i don't have to bring it to me. Are we as a church. Are we attended that tonight. As a single person walking regard bachelor he's looking for so he goes and when he put forth his own safety he goes before them as she follow him. Were they know his voice. I saw those their moms voices knows the child's baby and a solar i call out. Let's go the future and he. He was locked around he. He made it to the top. Say she got she got. She sees something that she looked into here. So i call beige. And he's here. He got here mama because he knows his voice as he told her say told us than when he was in the hospital never when he was in the hospital that was he didn't notice he was there and when she spoke or was he says something. His reaction was so so stock. That's i hear my mommy turning to see it looking around for his money voice he no. He knew that voice and we know in trouble. I been we call when he was in trouble with mama come helping we. The we knew come rain with Was a band aid or alcohol or whatever is needed to clean straight. Mom make you feel better. This kinsley ugly. Give me love that. They know that that's why they call for a moment because they model will be there to help them out of trouble so he says and when he puts forth his own seat before the ever seen follow him for his voice and a stranger. We'll they not follow at a stranger. They will follow. Were maybe see strangers. Many of the mel somebody but most babies after they were certain age. They're not too easily to be passed around there a stranger. And i've never seen you before. And i don't know your voice crying because i don't know you i don't trust you. I don't know you know. I just want to give me my mother's on the radio saying and guys saying today my sheet voice and a stranger they will not saw them but will flee from him for they know not the voice of strangers as we look at this fiercely and look at us as being a she. We don't know the voice of a stranger. We don't know that voice letting make him play and the things that just happened over these last couple weeks. We felt that there was a group called q. Nine has the stupid simply mindsets film. Cracks was of the devil. They were gonna eat babies in all of this foolishness. Okay we know 'cause we have we we that we noted that didn't make friends okay but a stranger that introduced to people that don't really know the precepts of a could follow up incident as seen. He's my people those no strangers and they're not want to strangers letter. It will run from strangers so something is against john. We flee from that we know is not a lot he said my know my voice and another they will follow so if somebody told us that jesus did come down here and die on a cross the keys from definitely grave down every asari now tells me something different and i'm believe the map that you have banned that you try to start to the work healthy that's what he's saying fake to aware that you do tells us that angel game before you as a supernatural league game before you hold you the jesus was not god you after curse angel because we know what the truth is so we know how to follow the truth. Those of us that worked and when god is converted is out of darkness into light and gave her life. We know we should be following so no. You're not gonna catchy line. Casas state s trying to reach the. Tv's you ain't try to sit. In a seance. 'cause we we we kind of so we would never do that. We would never do that. This terrible This terrible stay. Jesus under there but they understood things they were which he say some jesus was telling the sierra the people understand because at that point in time people did not really know how to think spiritually. You know that this was just being written as just happening. And we read it and learn how they knew talking in a terrible but then you know what that meant so jesus went on to say. There's really essay to you out hands. The door of the crises sees the door. there's no way to be able to give god to god through. Jesus christ what you know. We got to with their own book. They made your own book that you follow. We got one of as they make your own your own an aide today book and it's not the bible as a book their traditions in a book of your rules that they believe in augusta's i am the only way out what you devise. I don't care what you write. I don't know what you said before. Believe i am the truth. And the life. I am the only way you can get is through this door so he goes whatever came before me sees robbers seat enough years now at. Everybody can't try to try to get such valley so they could do they come through the door to finally so they were just like these arrivers but in ego. If resigned as door by lee is any man he shelby say so. I am a door always because you didn't show you'll go in and out and find pasture so let's say at work children. God order sheet as payroll. Apparently as she we get the right to now what we get the right now to be able to to receive our his blessings and his commandments. His safety and everything for us because we actually through this door but but fortunately seal to kill and to destroy this right here anytime about the feast is the devils the is the israeli and he just told us in his words the he comes not to seal you can destroy you. That's his mission. So there's no sense if martin you never given deal with the devil because it only hurts you your your wellbeing in mind. He wants to. He wants to steal from you and he wants to destroy guy and come. They might have life and best buy more abundantly so now she's inter door you have the light you have eternal life. That's a gifted he's giving you because you came through the door you has that not only do you have that. I want to give it to you more abundantly to be even more rich experience. I wanted to worry about anything. I want you to be in pain. I don't want you to be sick. I want you to have the right mind. And all of these things come as a blessing for you recognizing that he is a good server and you are and you relate with yourself to so from that door was saying. I say i'm her you and by saying sailors. You lowered that. Means that. I'm going to hollywood up on your commandments. You tell me because. I don't wanna have a fellow trying to kill me to get me abundantly. The he wants to have life of brotherly. That's that means living the way you should live as prince or princess. Because he came. You should not be worry-free you should not worry about any situation. You should take it to guide her prayer. La you're here. L. and gives you a full night's sleep and i worry about things because as is john so we have to acclimate ourselves to being a seat and we have to let the ways of this world go knowing that god is going to protect us in class and be therefore knowing that he is of the situation at all times no way no way they just keep plus felicia i saw you must muscle tone. Okay okay did you say okay. I few okay. But that's an s.'s. What he's saying take on my character congregate are the door. My character and watson as we do those things oh boy the world free online who we are not say or what we do is not what we say is what we do when you say thanks. Feed me when i was hungry. There's only did you see me in jail or did you. Just throw me away. There's you let me down by myself. That's what he's saying. Are you taking on hinder showing okay. So he's as good shepherd birth eleven. I am the jeffer- the good shepherd. Give us life for his. But he is a a a rather are coming to you about this. Even as a harrowing severed gu's own who oversee sees the wolf curry question. What is it lizzie. Hurling that's somebody that don't have a right to the sheet. The enemy the devil but we know that he up to no good he comes to steal the sheep but because he's not the master so he's a he's a thief and he took real. Let me put it in a different way than we see. Okay i'll put it this way all right. You got some money in the bank. You go withdraw money out the bank every week. One week i go ethnic commu but i'm not you to steal your money. I'm a thief hurley. I'm up to no good to get something that belongs to you as shepherd. Why like i came posing as you get your money but i'm not really you ever is to get money call. We have been made our programs and the church was somebody from cambodia and in what their average dollars per serving a are air out like and They have a form of godliness. You're denying the power here listener. Rowson we've seen halloween's cover. Try to hijack a congregation passing. It allows his sheep shepherd under shepherd that allows a harley to get one at the purpose is not trying to show care. You're trying to help you understand the size. It has guy is ready trying to five hundred dollars and in the year in verse but he is a harley and not the shepherd who own who's on the are not only she is in as long as way in for a service. The walk coming so highly is cheap society. Now that's all down on the devil on the wall law where you see how it's mindless you. See trade of trying to get the bill but these lease was part of the. She supposedly help them. They're gonna be recording at the real entity komen anyway me on and then she goes. You see the wall coming. Leila's the sheet awards as yard. So that makes it the heat and now he has regularly so he couple couple of the eight a couple of them and arrest of online. Does that the light rose. You got somebody give a bad word or or vice over climate these church today they go out you get assess you know not in the context of here to get you an advantage of young sheet your hearts that's about the new way so you don't true gilderoy but what they spirits euro because something that apple the church and they never wanna come out maybe they have a robocalls is church also hunger church and the her the excuse nine. Come back that that didn't remember anybody's necessarily much the door. He wants to kill you or those. That are weak or those that are bays are those are just coming projection. Scatter leah number thing because he is a lunatic. The holidays leeann. He knows is down in missouri. I go down please. w. And i was laurie ongoing down in dallas. Jack does not have a rollerblading then the holidays that he has left eight pin got a rural people. Were doing each. Hold me dollars on sunday. We'll have a blessing. And i listening to be my sight outta prison. Doesn't come out of prison next seven day and night sometimes the now the church. I don't want to be bothered with backing band by myself and say because we are not guarding the gate as we should shepherd has the shore that he see are rejected an all time. Because we don't know yet one just starting and i'm telling innocent little girl. I just love insurance died. here comes. Advice would comes along the way he remained done. I got a day relied and this is what happens in church. We're not shepherd to do the work that he needs to do. He goes on to say that he goes to say thirteen highly beasley. Because see his hannele and cares for the sake here. Is you got to be made again fourteen. I am the shepherd ano- mushy and known of mine. Father knows knee either. So i know the father on down on the sheet must phases. Jesus you guys indian. I am god we are both in the same and they know life where she to make sure that our she do not go to halley great. That's lit up and the and this will be familiar to you again. We're not have this fall. Also bring so we said they got to come to the door. But i gotta bring. I got retail. I reach to other nationality. Reach ogle the believing in buddha. And i gotta be rejected believing harry chris and travel witnesses and a warming and all of those not believe. God i gotta reach their base. But this is what i and return no this whole also must rate and then he on your mouth and there's no be one fold and one shepherd god is good. We have another example beautiful. One see the time. The heating results polly is less than a dozen chest. S the home because those are talking about. Isn't that just as a way. Not just as the lee charted ensure a whoa as the whole world companies. And there's show we want fold and one shepherd. Let's go and get everybody. I need to get everybody and you are light on earth. Each one of us is his life on earth. Each one of us as the nation that being is two hundred percents lender. Why so they see how. That's our job accompanied months ago and we've been walking is pastor is gas again and what i thought was the law so all of the folks out there that don't know him in the partner their sense fine that room therefore doing my father me because i lay down my life that i might take again. Take it from me. But i lay down us. Oh this is very very important. I many many debates about this. Jesus guy now. His main reason for diane no is to get the keys from the devil from gray in debt because then he will no longer a bondage so he has geez i getting into the president can go straight to god okay. So remember when he was on us. Remember when when Nowadays out or the curtain rent beverly curtain member does playing in ruling dargin term snaking rare resist you launch. The you know the ability to just come out. I was know how you on our force. Hey at any time. He's he thought it at any as a nozzle commercially. No angels come helping me. I don't want but he didn't. He went through the whole thing so we have access to him freely so he's fearful father loved me because i lay down on life that i might take it again. Don't take it from me. But i lay it down myself. I have power to lay down. And i have power again this i am. You seen firm. My father be this. He couldn't know why he has an older couple bell. Dismantle or similar elevate and you guys. I mean this because average. My my my royal robe and i'll have to go back to earth as a baby and showed him the character. Do they need to display for exactly what he being he is. He is a way to change in the light. He is every we'd be and what he's saying and this agree shopper. A righteous wrote key in front of you. Because i am the great shepherd key in front of you so you can walk as see. What do you can see how walk you can see how to top hundred troll your emotion st louis barron man so as to get thoughts among he walked this earth he walked this earth and he showed us the way the us stay on my eye so the weekend not only our our family all valley fairly fairly xiaowei. John say lesson. Do more on running those insane. Those val list here. S and jubal speak louder. words announced. ashley. Shane you want. What have you done for me to help my melody and help people. Just don't get to you. Know we have to call out the said we have to show them the way we have to show them the way door now. We have the model behavior that we need a model for them to be productive english christian a burglar game day in. I think here amen were was good on today rich now where we only the night. Documenting off we're due to our are supposed to be. Yes okay missionary. It's excuse me. Pastor visionary use you say it's caught by ear because i see this man all decide. Every day i get your do. I have to give some every day. Now you laura ogden in because you know he will you. Will your name be willing to give it. Does i was on that. Most frequently nolan is down on the dollar bills in my dollars and a lady in a car our donald god's all be tell you saw whites you all is the of doing in a okay me either. So our guys is our way and be will lepers the la. We james chapter to win tonight. Six o'clock did we clear learning and a good sign every thursday this other and just blew it. We need is right now. I we need as so so. I'll hijacking i wanna give this out. Everybody ally and udal somebody that was part of us or have you have somebody else. Does you want your by inviting survival. Study all because that's a way to get our colorado aback nudity. Back and like i said on god heroes name on your heart. I have not been as for that. So let's look at seven votes. I'm guessing and tell them. Wanna get back. I guys to all right so again. We got one more sunday in january and not be all women on the first sunday in february. Two seven. We gonna start off fast until that satiety to thirteen at three o'clock we don't go to three o'clock you know we give more next week but you said no you need to take medicine you take your medicine and you eat whatever you need to eat to get it down and hang. Hang on the best way you know. Three o'clock we're going to be all right but but but but fast for something that you know you want that you need from god and you know the first day we needed to come. Subject helped me low. Don't don't help missionary. don't have help me help me help me. Nobody else that. I need to help in gago here. Is he going to bless us. All right we see all next nick wednesday. Six o'clock all right six o'clock all right.
Vale Ross Taylor
"Do you happen to recall. My i live interview in one thousand nine hundred seventy two. That's before the sideshow was born. Three years later it was during apollo. Sixteen with men on the moon. And i was with professor. Ross taylor from the air new as he watched the astronauts collecting moon rocks. Well ross has just died and in tribute. Here's a chat. We had a little later in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine on what it was like when those rocks were brought back. It was when these interesting series of coincidences and career. I'd become interested in analytical work of geological samples are developed techniques and. It's our happened that these techniques were selected for the analysis of the fish lena samples and so when nasa founders who faced with this problem of analyzing rocks from another planet. I got summoned to go to houston to share them the techniques and so you were there when the apollo eleven rock came back with you. Yes this is in. The first hour was returned. I remember the date july. The twenty eighth nineteen sixty nine when we actually got a hands on the sample. How much do they bring back. Then was it a lot. They brought back on the first mission about twenty two kilograms of rocks and soil motley. You expecting well. We were expecting possibly volcanic rocks. But we didn't really know we're expecting a lot of meteorite debris which we didn't find and a lot of predictions in fact tend out to be falsified by air analyses. We discovered at the samples in fact with different inquiry chemical competition from israel samples. Of course you've been analyzing moon rock for years. In fact i think it was something like seven years ago. I sat here in your office in camera and held some moon in these years when you've been doing the analysis. What have you found well. The samples have enabled us to reconstruct the early history of the moon. And it's eve lucien over about four and a happy weenie is. The moon has showed evidence of very early melting unlikely earth. We have a record of the events in the moon came back almost the beginning of the condensation this system whereas on the earth i almost one billion years obscured the samples. You've had a very small indeed out there. How do you get from a small piece of moon rock to that conclusion about the evolution of the moon. Unfortunately the main is a lot simpler than the earth. Quite good control on where the samples come from the surface. We have a lot of photography where able to place was i was into the appropriate context and by establishing the age and the chemical composition comparing that with the samples from the earth with samples from meteorites and models of the early competition with abiola planets. Condensed we're able to construct geochemical models to fill the of that go details and say neighbors to say the other half of the moon probably was melted that it crystallized and this happened olmert at the beginning of the moons history and from that time on almost very little happened. You've had through ulibarri something like one. Hundred grams of moon is it used up in the process of analysis soul. Do you have to get it back or about a quarter of it is consumed in the operation and the rest has to be very rigorously accounted for handwritten to houston than we have on occasion head inspection from nasa to make sure we are counting properly for this material. Anything special about monroe brought in something and said. This is moon dr taylor. Would you be able to do various tests and say are indeed. We'll use we would take quite sophisticated equipment. Because many lena samples resemble terrestrial rocks basaltic. Rocks of this sort. We could send you make that decision quite easily but it would require a very complicated analytical. Take another thing you can do just by looking at it. Of course they time when you first set your eyes and hands for that metro moon Ten years ago. What does that anniversary mean to you. We'll it's anywhere. And i think the most important thing i've done in my life that's a reasonable answer. I realized subsequently that all my previous career had effectively being preparing me for this moment. Analyzer signed perform another planet. Think it was saving the most critical thing i've done in took every ounce so if than knowledge ahead of the time to carry out his analyses what about the mission itself Ideas changed about the value of that sort of expiration. The russians have had three mission to the moon returned a few grams or soil using unmanned landers and so the question is whether one could have done the whole thing summit more cheaply than sending men. The complication is it's extremely difficult to unscramble this material to extract useful chemical information useful information about the age of the moon the origin evolution. The things i've been talking about it's allow. You took all the packets and tins and bottles and the kitchen. Empty dimona hebron floor and tried to work out. What the campaigns the mixture were the point about demand missions was that the astronauts picked up individual rock samples to give a night. Of course we could out what the mixture was if we'd only had mixed to work with an unmanned mission we would. I think had very great difficulty now. We know how to handle these sort of samples so we could quite easily deal with an unmanned sample say returning from soil from mass of mercury. But before the man missions we wouldn't have known professor. Ross taylor who died last sunday. He was ninety five and a fellow of the australian academy of science.
St. Ignatius of Loyola Novena Day 6 Discerning Hearts podcast
"Ignatius of Loya. Day Sex. If we desire to live in honor, and to be esteemed by our neighbors, and we shall never be solidly rooted in God our Lord and it will be impossible for us remain undisturbed when insults come our way. If we find that we are without the patients to endure insults from others. We then have greater reason to complain that because of those who injure us. Because of our own sensuality and carnal inclinations. Because, we are not as mortified or dead to the world as we should be. These people are offering US opportunities for gaining treasure greater than anyone can win in this life and riches more numerous than anyone can accumulate in this world. Our Father. Who are in heaven. Hallowed be thy name by kingdom come THY will be done. On Earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses. As we forgive those who trespass against us. and lead us not into temptation. But deliver us from evil. Man. The Saint Ignatius we pray. Soul of crite sanctify me. Body of Christ saves mean. Blood of Christ in Hebron. Water from the side of Christ. Wash, my. Passion of Christ strengthening. Old Good Jesus hear me. Within the wounds hide me. Suffer me not to be separated from the. From the malignant enemy defend me. In the hour of my death, call me and bid me come to the with I same semi. Praise the forever and ever. Saint Ignatius of Leona. Pray for us.
A Lenten Prayer for God to Bring Beauty from Ashes
"Lenten prayer for god to bring beauty from ashes written by debbie mcdaniel and read by kelly gibbons to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes the oil of joy instead of morning and garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. Isaiah sixty one three as we walk through this season of lent. We're reminded again that sometimes life is hard. sometimes it hurts sometimes. It's dark and it leaves. Its mark like ashes of grief in the deepest parts of our souls where no one god can really see yet. Even in times of ashes in struggle even when we think we've been forgotten in our seasons of waiting. God is still there and he is bigger as believers. We can still hold onto hope for. He never intends for us to stay. Stuck in our sin pain or deep sorrow. He heals restores. He calls us onward. He reminds us that in him. We have great purpose and hope. There's beauty greatness. Behind every mark of darkness the ashes will fall away. A don't stay forever. But his greatness and glory shine forth through every broken place. An every flaw we've struggled through jesus conquered death. He lives forever. He reigns in glory and we have victory in him. Take courage dear friends who are facing deep battles. He is greater than any enemy. We face in this life we overcome because he has overcome and our lives are hidden in. Christ may god cover you with peace. May he bring healing. In the face of hard news make he bring deep abiding joy that makes no sense to the world may hebron comfort and care as he wraps you in his arms. The god of miracles fights for you today and he is mighty. There is still beauty ahead straight out of the ashes. Christ redeems let's pray dear god in this season of lent were reminded of our own difficulties and struggles. Sometimes the way has seemed to dark. Sometimes we feel like our lives have been marked by such grief and pain. We don't see how our circumstances can ever change but in the midst of our weakness. We ask that you would be strong on our behalf. Lord rise up within us let your spirit shine out of every broken place. We've walked through. Allow your power to be manifest through our own weakness so that others will recognize. It is you who is at work on our behalf. We ask that you would trade. The ashes of our lives for the beauty of your presence. Trade are mourning and grief for the oil of joy and gladness of your spirit trade. Our despair for hope and praise. We choose to give you. Thanks today and believe that of will fade away. Thank you that you are with us in whatever we face and that you are greater than this trial we know and recognize that you are sovereign we thank you for the victory that is ours because of christ jesus and we are confident that you have goods still in store for our future. We thank you that you are at work right now. Trading our ashes for greater beauty. We praise you for you. Make all things new. Jesus name
TE Tiers 2019
"Welcome to the N._F._l.. Talking Heads Fantasy football podcast show here a your hosts Jeff Carrier Seth Law. Hello everyone and welcome to the N._F._l.. Talking talking heads of fantasy football podcast show. I'm your host Jeff carrier. He is seth law. We are back for another great episode to talk tight end tears getting closer rounding out all our positional tears for everyone out there and seth it is time the training camp season has finally started. We're going to actually start seeing seeing some players on the field and you know soon enough. They'll be most likely some injuries impacting rankings and of course eighty ps but it's exciting to see people on the field in football almost here. Oh Yeah it's been it's been way too long and we are. We're back in it. It's one hundred degrees out today in New Hampshire and no better place to be during one hundred under degree day than inside in the air conditioned in the air conditioning talking fantasy football so let's let's get to it all right so before we get into tight end tears big breaking news on Tyreek Hill there will be no suspension from the N._F._l.. tyreek hill you know let's just skip the part on the inconsistency of the N._F._l.. And whether or not he should have been suspended or not. That's a different discussion. Let's get to whereabout uh fantasy football where does terry kill now slide into your rankings A._D._p.. Wise not ranking. Should I say where does he slide in eighty P wise on the draft board where we're my drafting him Yup also when we talk yesterday when the news broke and you ask me my first reaction was like third round. That's the first thing I said we talked about it and as before I even looked at any updated eighty ps and it looks like you know his A._D._p.. Is Bright in the third round three point four and I think that's pretty on target right now. I'm drafting him today. If the draft is today I would take him in the third round right around three point zero four. That's pretty spot on now if it's pretty quiet on the tyreek hill front from now until the being the season and we're here in late August and he's always you know he's on his best behavior hasn't got into trouble. There's no nothing else is breaking is no other evidence that emerges than I could see taking him in the the second round. Maybe the end of the second round middle the second round the bottom line is tyreek hill. If this off the field stuff never never immersion or was never an issue. He's a early second rounder like you can make a case for maybe taking him in the first round right I mean he he's that elite has that much upside. He's probably the number one fantasy wide receiver if we're just talking football and when he brings you know on the field so the drafts right now. I'm taking him in the third round but I'm giving you know I'm open to moving that up to to the second round <hes> if nothing else crazy happens now in August. I'm going to be a a bit more aggressive as we kind of our initial reactions kind of led me to to to believe now if you if you're type person will you go on and you're looking at the A._D._p.. And you see three point zero four all you need to do is look at the chart of at four point zero three. There's four point four and now he's at three point four. He went up a full round within a day well. The law of averages should tell us that he's not getting to three or four because people are drafting met three. Oh four people were drafting him above that spot and that's where his average opposition happens to be landing or he skyrocketed in a day so my guess is he's getting drafted right now in the middle of the second so if you've seen three point four <hes> and you're you're going off that you're never going to get him realistically. If you're looking at the second round of the fantasy football draft I mean first thing that comes to mind is he easily sides in front of Damian Williams in my eyes I mean why why am I taking Damian Williams over Tyreek Hill. You're not doing that so so he easily slides in front of that spot as worst case scenario and then in terms of just a range of outcomes or Dra- oppositions. I say he could go as high as above depending on how you like some of these players like I would take Juju over him but I would take tyreek over Odell Beckham so now we're talking on the fringe of the turn so my guess is he's. He's all the way that high to potentially downward Liam so one point twelve to two point zero. Seven is the range. I have a minute and probably closer to the top of that range. I mean mean if we didn't get in trouble for what we just all experience right if he didn't get in trouble then then he's not gonna get suspended during the season even if he did something else he would need some kind of the Cam. I'd be more worried about the Kansas City the chiefs potentially suspending him if something else comes up and they face a big you know a p._r.. Hit and there's backlash there's pressure put on the chiefs. Maybe the chief suspend him. You know I don't know or maybe this this gets. Maybe something else happens in this gets to be to the the point where there's so much heat on tyreek Hill that there's a huge distraction and he wasn't perform or he who knows. I mean like if you're if you're going to take him in the early second round or some of these players wanted to take over Julio. I mean like either there. You're hedging against all that other stuff. You're not now. I'm hedging against all that other stuff by taking him in the third round if you're not doing that if you're taking him over Odell Beckham then what you're saying is I'm not worried about any of that other stuff at all so at that point wanted to take him in the first round. Down I think he's a first round player like you could take you could take him over Julio. You can take him definitely over Le Vian Bell you could potentially take him over Michael Thomas. I mean if he if we're just talking about tyreek hill the fantasy football wide receiver. He's probably W top eight or nine pick yeah I mean I suppose I mean you definitely have a point. I'm most I am more on the side of. I'm not really paying attention to anything else happening because also the Kansas City chiefs allowed him back into the facilities weeks before this announcement so it seems like everything's kind of getting brush underneath the rug now that we have a solid month until we actually have our draft. I think that we'll get everything we need to know in terms of quote unquote P._R.. It would take something drastic like a ray rice kareem hunt video to come out and I think we've already kind of heard you know in audio the worst that was released so I I suppose you always have that risk with someone with Terry kills background but I'm going for more upside there but anyways good conversation going to be a very interesting player over the next few weeks I think without a shadow of a doubt he's going to be creeping up at least a solid round if not more to your point because of how he did finish last year he does deserve to be potentially in the conversation of the first wide receiver off the board and the first wide receiver off the board is is typically deandre Hopkins at around six so all right so let's jump into it tight ends ooh tough position to picks the sexiest position Asian all fantasy so this should be a little bit shorter because it's just not as much obviously depth here to talk about. We have a couple of the the regulars right at the top that we're familiar with this. is how the topless. Let's just top ten. I'M GONNA say with a top ten finished out last year and you can start off with your tier. One tight ends just in order from one to ten was Travis Kelsey kittle Erz Hebron Cook Burton Burton Austin Hooper the joke who Rudolph O._J.. Howard and some of these are obviously you know ranking the difference between ranking thirteen and six for example was like a total title of less than it was ten points so less than one point a week so there really aren't ten good tight ends here if you're an attend team league in every team has one tight end l.? Every semester star one tight end is going to be at least two or three the teams that aren tight end stream mode starting we one okay so tier one for you for tight ends tier one from eases Travis Calcium jacquards. I think clearly Travis Kelsey is a a little bit ahead of jacquards but I like them. Both you can't go wrong with either one. I would put them in the same here on. I think it's pretty pretty easy pretty straightforward. Travis Chelsea's Akers Tier One yep now of course we're GONNA follow up all of our tears with breaking down where they're going A._D._p.. Wise so that's going to be a different discussion but I did want to clarify that just because we're we're saying Zakar. It's the same tears Kelsey <hes> in terms of player and quality and all that stuff. I am a little hesitant on where's Akers A._D._p.. Is You know and Kittles for that matter but we're going to get to that in different say yeah. We're look at it like it is if A._D._p.. Doesn't matter value doesn't matter just who who who do you have all things are equal if you can get him in the same spot. Who would you rather have <hes>? I think it's clearly travis Kelsey Anzac urged you agree. Yep completely agree on that because here's here's the key. I think a lot of people are going to say you know. Why are you not have George Kill Kill in that <hes> in that that tier because his A._p.? Is Three Point Nine Zakharov three point zero six. They're close <hes> George kill had more receiving yards last year. He's he's a little younger in my thing is and I have we'll kind of transition to the second tier George Kill <hes> by himself into your to the reason for that is it's just a little bit more uncertainty with George Kitto. Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be healthy. We'll see Jimmy. Garoppolo can stay healthy. That offense is on the come up. Endorsed kills obviously going to be a big part of that. He was a big part of their offense last year on a really really bad team so I think George kiddle has you could argue. He has a little more upside Zacher especially considering. I don't think anybody expects Akers to have one hundred sixteen catches again but I just like the situation as accurate and the it's more stable. I think George kittle could potentially be a little bit more volatile but I think he's clearly in the second tier by himself. If you miss out on Jacquards and Travis Kelsey and you end up with George Kill you have one of the three best tight ends and fantasy football and like we saw last year he's going to be a stud so George Kettle into your to all by himself and after that I think there's a pretty big drop off yeah and a lot can be said about the difference between target chair percentage when Jimmy Garoppolo is there and when he he wasn't is actually pretty similar twenty three percent the first three weeks with Jimmy Garoppolo twenty six percent with the rest of the quarter quarterbacks that they had for their meeting of the season of forty niners so you know there should be questioned in terms of if Jimmy Garoppolo's gotta feed kibble but I think the bigger question is can he hold onto his twenty three percents with the influx of new receivers and kind of weapons so. I think he might get a knock there but I think like you said it's close. He's in his own tier so I agree with that as well lily a little bit more uncertainty with if he can keep hold of that target share percentage but I look at his touchdown only five touchdowns last year so even if his target share percents drops off a little bit and even though we see that receptions eight eight receptions go down a little bit because of it he could easily put an eight nine touchdowns you know in that and so I think back a balance out but yeah he's he's in Tier Two tier three we big drop off and I think this is the spot where and this is probably different conversation Mt Tear Tear tweezers empty three-tiered pretty empty. I think at this point for me I would almost be looking to to wait like that's how crazy does this year with the it's really top heavy of the three big tie downs and after that and actually know what I'll make one one caveat too that is I really like O._J.. Howard and I think the problem with O._J.? Howard our is his A._D._p.? Is is five point zero seven so everything we love. Boji Howard is baked in already baked into his eighty pig which A._d._p.'s not top what we're talking about today so different conversation for different show but <hes> my tier three is is is O._J.. Howard Eric Hebron and Hunter Henry and Hunter Henry would be at the bottom of that here? I you know I debate even leaving him out of this third tier. I just decided I'm leaving Hunter Henry. He doesn't deserve to being here O._J.. Howard Air Lebron I I love O._J.? Howard for a lot of the same reasons that I love Chris Godwin we've we've already talked about Kris Golvin a lot? I know he's a trendy player. I I love of O._J.. Howard for so often the Bruce Arians thing which I wanNA talk about everybody mentioned the Bruce Arians the offense better but this is O._J.? Howard third year in the league this is where tight ends you know usually make the step forward to being an actual factor after now health is is always an issue with O._J.? Howard hasn't played a full season yet but only played eight games last year fourteen the previous year in his rookie are but we're already seen the touchdown said five or more touchdowns each of his first two seasons seasons four hundred more receiving yards each of his first two seasons and we don't usually tight ends make an impact at all? It's even worse than than it is a receivers when they come into the N._F._l.. Early on so I I like his talent his size his athletic ability loved the offense and no more Adam Humphries no more to Sean Jackson. I think it's GonNa be a big year throwing the ball for Tampa Bay. They lead the N._F._l.. Last year and pass attempts. They're gonNA throw the ball a ton so I like O._J.. Howard I I don't love his A._D._p.? But again we're doing tears and I think that he is clearly hands down. The fourth best tight end big drop off from George Killed O._J.. Howard but I think O._J.? Howard presents a good balance at this point of he's going me fairly safe relatives the tight ends that are in this grouping and he has the most upside at anybody else from this point on yet? I think the one that in terms of in this here the disagree with his Eric Hebron on I just don't like how they brought in Devin funchess who I feel like is fairly similar player to Eric Hebron even more weapons of Paris Campbell etc.. Maybe a healthy Marlin Mac. I just the more of a I don't like Hebron repeating his numbers and I I would probably throw Evan Ingram in the same tears how so so you didn't like you don't like Kevin Ingram obviously as much as Howard or even Abra no no no ear Iran. I see I agree with you on a lot of points about Abraham Hebron's a great example of for A._D._p.. I I don't love him and he probably won't be on a lot of my teams because six point twelve is too pricey for Hebron at the same point though we're just ranking these tight ends on you know how they are as fantasy players without A._D._p.'s entering into the equation argue bronze number four I mean I think you expect his touchdowns to come down a little bit because of what you mentioned with with the addition of funchess and maybe Peres Campbell Marla Mac and how the but bottom line indies going to have a really good offense and Andrew Lock is very efficient red zone. They're going to be a lot of touchdowns up for grabs. Eric Brown had thirteen touchdowns. I think he can still get ten so you were. We're talking about a a starting tight end with Andrew Lock on the Indianapolis Colts. Getting potentially ten touchdowns get to be in the seven to eight hundred receiving yards sixty <unk> distinct those are solid safe numbers to expect from Eric Hebron even if he comes down down a little bit on his production from last year and that's why I'm taking him over Evan Ingram you know I in terms of tears I like him more than Evan Ingraham a loved more than like him more than Hunter Henry and so on okay and so that wraps up tier three are- with O._J.. Howard and Eric Hebron heading into tier four is this where we have Evan Ingram and Hunter Henry and anyone else or how's your tearful look just just those is too? I I after that where you know. I don't know what we're GONNA do frontiers. It's like everybody else at that point. It's like I'm waiting. I might wait till to grab P._J.. Hopkinson if you round later I have Hunter Henry and Evan Ingram to pure wide receiver <hes> tight end threats if you will I I just I don't love we'll start with Hunter Henry. I mean first of all. He's really had a hard time staying unhealthy. He missed all of last season right and I just we haven't really seen we've seen stuff from Hunter Henry in spurts right and he's very his touchdown numbers. Were really high as rookie or they touchdowns if he. Gets the snaps he is going to be hit. His upside is great if he can get the volume being at the snaps if he can get the targets we just haven't seen it to this point in San Diego or Los Angeles if you will so I like him more than ever ingram because I like his upside a little bit more than Evan Ingram. I like the chargers offense better than the giants offense obviously but I think these two are very I think that the the variances greater with these two especially Hunter Henry I think he's got more boom bust potential. We've seen him have weeks where he has two touchdowns. I've seen him have weeks where he basically puts up zero bomb yeah. Sometimes I just don't understand these eighty ps I mean are people literally only swinging for the fences and just like just completely content with just whipping. I mean Hunter Henry missed all twenty eighteen right didn't do it is intend to anything the previous years he was a nice player but not a great player because Philip rivers like some of the elite quarterbacks passes the ball around so much so he was a nice player he wasn't Kelsey or Gronk any of his first two seasons so he misses an entire year and somehow is so getting drafted early six six round right now in team league I just I don't understand the A._D._p.. Now in terms of caliber player is he above just about everyone else as he should be in this last here that you have I agree because this upside is higher but that doesn't mean he should be going into six round again other discussion for different day his his pedigree and that team he's got some upside there for sure and he'll be heading into his. I don't know I guess technically is fourth year or you know his third playing ear so yeah yeah I think this rounds out my tears because hundred Henry and everything or to me while I don't love of either one of them. I think you can look at each of them and say okay. I have my starting tight end granted. Oh probably be still be my we the weakness on my team. It might my worse starter but I have a starting caliber tight end that I'm at least gonNA start every single week because they have upside after that. It's it's pretty much. You're streaming tight ends. You're drafting multiple tight ends in you know playing it by committee so I. I don't know what you WANNA do for the next exteriors I mean it will. I is there anybody else that I left out that you would include in this year. I would probably include in that tier. I wouldn't take them before. I don't know I wouldn't necessarily put him his own tear. This lump them in as the quote tear before the streaming tears. We'll call it is probably jared cook because he had pretty good year last year and with New Orleans I feel like you'll fit that category that you just Kinda described and that is I've got a starter on most most weeks. Not every week is going to be great but a most weeks assuming health you know I can just plug him in there and I think you'll have a decent day so I think I'd throw jared cook in that in there and in that here with my problem Joel Island Promise Jerry Cook is the Saints Really Have Not used tight ends since they had Jimmy Graham and is that a product of them not really having in good tight end or is that just they got a lot of rushing touchdowns with Alvin Kamara. Even though there's no Mark Ingram here you have Michael Thomas who's an absolute beast and they spread the ball around so much I just I think but at this point the draft yeah I I think we look at him as a starter I I think he's kind of lumped in. I look like Jared Cook. David Joko potentially awesome hooper in this range and T._J.. Hopkinson those would be my you know. My grouping of players is that that might follow the next year but I'm not going out on my way to grab any of those players I would. I would consider them with the exception. Maybe Teacher Hawkins and I don't know if you're GONNA start him week one but I think at least second half the season you should be in a position to maybe you know feel like you can start him. Yeah I agree that's why I was like he's kind of behind the other two but kind of fits a category that might deserve its own tears so maybe maybe cook no joke who Hopkinson Hooper might have their own semi. I tear in front of the streamers the but to your point you're definitely not going out of your way for any of these people. No I think we always see the drop off and tight ends pretty quickly every year where you're like okay. I'm not really going on my way. We get the next best tight end because he's not doesn't why doesn't excite me. I'm just GonNa wait until the very end similar to what people do with quarterbacks in one quarterback leagues and I think this year that just starts even earlier and maybe it's partly is not having Gronk you're you you take gronk out a no players Jimmy Grammar no longer a factor Jordan Reed is now. We're completely writing him off. So the tight end position shallower Kyle Rudolph is another one who's lower who's kinda fallen own off the face of the Earth for fantasy and I think after after Kelsey urged kittle in maybe Howard you know I could maybe talk myself into take him in the sixth or seventh round but the fifth round is too early after that. I'm just like you know we're overpaying for. Some of these mediocre tight ends like Evan Ingram Hundred Henry Eric Hebron even jared cook in the seventh round jerk cooking the seventh rounds crazy. That's crazy town right crazy town. I mean again. I said the difference between six and thirteen it was like what ten points for the entire year and I guarantee at least fifty seventy five percent of those tight ends were just streamers basically for the most part so to your point is that that's going to wrap up our tight hide ends. We're going to be back four hour quarterbacks. Here's and we're going deep real deep south and I are big to Q._B.. Fans so <hes> we're going to be doing all thirty Q._B.'s.
Day 84: The Sun Stands Still
"Hi my name's farther. Mike schmidts and you're listening to the bible in a year. Podcast where we encounter god's voice and live life through the lens of scripture. The bible in your podcast is brought to you by essentially using great adventure bible timeline. We'll read all the way from genesis. Revelation discovering how the story of salvation unfolds. And how we fit into that story today. It is now currently eighty four and we're reading today from joshua chapter ten and eleven and we're praying psalm. One hundred twenty eight one of those songs of a sense. The bible translation that i am reading from is the revised standard version. Second catholic edition. I'm using rate adventure battle from ascension. If you want to download your own bible reading plans you can see coming what we've been see where we are. You can go to ascension press dot com slash bible in a year. If you want to subscribe in this podcast please redo that to receive daily episodes. Those daily episodes come out pretty much every day. This is why we call them daily episodes and it is incredible to be able to listen to the bible in this three hundred sixty five days as i said it's eighty four reading joshua ten and eleven and psalm one hundred twenty eight. Let's get started the book of joshua chapter ten. The sun stands still when don't exotic king of jerusalem heard joshua had taken a i and utterly destroyed it doing to. Ai in its king as he had done to jericho in its king and how the inhabitants of gibson had made peace with israel and we're among them. He feared greatly because gibson was a great city like one of the royal cities and because it was greater than a and all its men were mighty so adonis at king of jerusalem sent it to King of hebron puram king of jarmo with two jeff king of lash and beer king of eglin saying come up to me and helped me and let us strike given for it has made peace with joshua and with the sons of israel than the five kings of the emirates the of jerusalem the king of hebron the king of german with the king of last year and the king of egland gathered their forces and went up with all their armies encamped against and made war against it and the men of gibbon sent to joshua at the camp in gilgal saying. Do not relax your hand from your servants. Come up to us quickly and save us and help us for all the kings of the emirates that well in the hill country are gathered against us so joshua went up from gilgal he and all the people of our with him. And all the mighty men of valor and the lord said to joshua do not fear them for. I have given them into your hands. There shall not a man of them stand before you. So joshua came upon them suddenly having marched up all night from gilgal and the lord through them into a panic before israel who slew them with a great slaughter at gibbon and chase them. By the way of the ascent beth horan and struck them as far as as and macadamia and fled before israel while they were going down the ascent bethune the lord through down great stones from heaven upon them as far as key and he died there were more died because of the hailstones than the men of israel killed with the sword then spoke joshua to the lord in the day when the lord gave the emerites over to the men of israel and he said in the state of israel sun stand still at gibson and you moon in the valley of jalen and the sun stood still and the moon stayed until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the book of cheshire. The son stayed in the midst of heaven and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day there has been no day like it before or since when the lord listened to the voice of a man for the lord fought for israel joshua returned and all israel with him to the camp at gilgal the five kings defeated these five kings fled and hid themselves in the cave maqueda and it was told joshua the five kings have been found hidden in the cave macadear and joshua said role great stones against the mouth of the cave set men by it to guard them but do not stay there yourselves pursue your enemies fall upon their beer do not let them enter their cities for the lord your god has given them into your hand and joshua and the men of israel had finished slang them with a very great slaughter until they were wiped out and when the remnant which remained of them had entered into the fortified cities all the people return safe to joshua in the camp at mecca not a man moved his tongue against any of the sons of israel then joshua said open the mouth of the cave and bring those five kings out to me from the cave and they did so and brought those five kings out to him from the cave the king of jerusalem king of hebron speaking of our mouth the king of lash and the king of eglin and when they brought those kings out to joshua joshua's summoned all the men of israel and said to the chiefs of the men of war who had gone with him come near put your feet upon the next of these kings and they came near and put their feet on their necks and joshua said to them do not be afraid or dismayed be strong and of good courage for thus the lord will do all your enemies against whom you fight and after joshua's struck them and put them to death and he hung them on five trees and they hung up on the trees until evening but at the time of the going down of the son joshua commanded and they took them down from the trees and threw them into the cave where they had hidden themselves and they set great stones against the mouth of the cave which remain to this very day and joshua took maqueda on that day and struck it and it's king with the edge of the sword he utterly destroyed every person in it he left none remaining and he did the king of macadamia as he had done to the king of jericho and joshua passed on from academia and all israel with him to leave nine and fought against lena and the lord gave it also and it's king into the hand of israel and he struck it with the edge of the sword in every person in it he left none remaining in it and he did to its king as he had done to the king of jericho and joshua passed on from the in all israel with them to lock sheesh and laid siege to it and assaulted it and the lord gave like sheesh into the hand of israel and he took it on the second day and struck it with the edge of the sword and every person in it as he had done to linda and haram king of geezer came up to help lush and joshua struck him and his people until he left none remaining and joshua passed on with israel from sheesh to eglin and they laid siege to it and assaulted it and they took it on that day and struck it with the edge of the sword in every person in it he utterly destroyed that day as he had done to lash joshua went up with all israel from eglin to hebron and they assaulted it and took it and struck it with the edge of the sword and king and it's towns and every person in it he left none remaining as he had done to eglin and utterly destroyed it with every person in it then joshua with all israel turned back to beer and assaulted it and he took it with its king and all its towns and they struck them with the edge of the sword and utterly destroyed every person in it he left none remaining as he had done to hebron into lebanon and its king so did he do to the beer and it's king so joshua defeated the whole land the hill country and the negative and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings he left none remaining but utterly destroyed all that breathed as the lord god of israel commanded and joshua defeated them from condition bernice to gaza and all the country gauchan as far as gibson and joshua took all these kings and their land at one time because the lord god of israel fought for wral then joshua returned and all israel with him to the camp at gilgal chapter eleven the the united kings of northern canaan defeated when janine king of or heard of this he sent to joe bob the king of madan and to the kings of shimron to the king of ashraf and to the kings who were in the northern hill country in the arab south of china roth and in the lowland and in now fourth to are to the west to the canaanites in the east and the west the emirates the hittites parasites and the jebusites in the hill country and the hittites under herman in the land of misbah and they came out with all their troops a great host in number like the sand that is upon the seashore with very many horses and chariots and all these kings joined their forces and came and encamped together at the waters of moore on to fight with israel and the lord said to joshua do not be afraid of them for tomorrow at this time i will give over all of them slain to israel you shall hamstring their horses and burn their chariots with fire so joshua came suddenly upon them with all his people war by the waters of maroon and fell upon them and the lord gave them into the hand of israel who struck them and chase them as far as great sidon and mishra fath- my and eastward as far as the value of misbah and they struck them until they left none remaining and joshua did to them as the lord made him he hamstrung their horses and burn their chariots with fire and joshua turned back at that time and took four and struck. It's king with the sword for zora formerly was the head of all those kingdoms and they put to the sword all were in it utterly destroying them. There was none left that briefed and he burned his with fire and all the cities of those kings in all their kings ncaa took instruct them with the edge of the sword utterly destroying them as moses the servant of the lord had commanded but none of the cities that stood on mounds did israel burn except has only that joshua burned and all the spoil of these cities and the cattle. The sons of israel took for their booty but every man they struck with the edge of the sword until they had destroyed them and they did not leave any that briefed as the lord commanded moses his servant so moses commanded joshua and so joshua did he left nothing undone of all that the lord had commanded moses summary joshua's conquests so joshua took all that land the hill country all the negative and all the land of goshen and the low end and the aruba and the hill country of israel and its lowland from haluk that rises towards cy year as far as ad in the valley of lebanon below mount hormone and he took all their kings and struck them and put them to death joshua made wore a longtime with all those kings. There was not a city that made peace with the sons of israel except the headlights. The inhabitants of gibson. They took all in battle for it. Was the lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against israel in battle in order that they should be utterly destroyed and should receive no mercy but be exterminated as the lord commanded moses and joshua came at that time and wiped out. The anna came from the hill country from hebron from de beer from a knob and from all the hill country of judah and from all the hill country of israel joshua utterly destroyed them with their cities. There was none of the team left. In the land of the sons of israel only in gaza in gaffe an ashdot did some remain so joshua took the whole land. According to all that the lord had spoken to moses and joshua gave it for an inheritance to israel according to the tribal allotments and the land had rest for more psalm. One hundred twenty eight to happy home of the faithful. Blessed is everyone who fears the lord. Who walks in his ways. You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands. You shall be happy shall be well with you your wife will be like your fruitful vine within your house. Your children will be like all of shoots around your table. Behold thus shall the mandy blessed who fears the lord the lord. Bless you from zion. May you see the prosperity of jerusalem the days of your life. May you see your children's children. Peace be upon israel. father in heaven. We know that you have revealed yourself to us and so we thank you. we know that you have revealed. His desire justice desire peace. You're piece in fact revealed to us fully that yourself revealed fully in the revelation of jesus is that he is prince of peace and yet when we hear so many stories of war and a battle violence it can cause us to question so we ask you lord please just to give us give us interior piece. Give us a sense of understanding of what it is that you want to teach us today and what it is that you want us to receive. Today we make this per in the name of the prince of peace in the name of jesus christ our lord amen the name of the father and of the son of the holy spirit amen case. Oh praise the lord. Oh my gosh. Kate would talk about two things today and those two things have to do with the book of joshua which makes sense. That's where we are but what we heard. It was the sun standing still. I know there's a lot of people a lot of christians in fact who might find themselves hearing the story of the sun standing still joshua chapter ten and they think of things like galileo or they think of things like the copernican revolution of recognizing that the earth revolves around the sun. And they think okay so houses possible. It seems like people were pointing to christians or christians. Catholic scholars were were to joshua chapter ten as an argument against galileo which may or may not be accurate. In fact. I think it's a little less accurate than it is completely accurate. One of the things we realize. Is that the issue of galileo is not an issue of science versus. Faith was an issue of when ego versus another ego. that's a whole nother story. The of galileo in the of the pope at the time but it wasn't a battle of science versus faith because we had before was a kapernick who was a catholic cleric and a scientist who had already discovered and made a claim that the earth revolved around the sun and that was not met with any religious arguments because a lot of their religious people at the time were very interested in science. In fact the pope who got into this kerfuffle with galileo had previously been one of galileo's patrons you support galileo's scientific research and so as i said there's more to the story but one of the things we can know is that good faith and good science never contradict what contradicts are bad faith or bat signs and so or one of the other Because good faith is pursuit of what pursuit of truth and good scientists pursuit of what pursuit of truth we know is that truth can never contradict truth and so the pursuit of truth. That faith pursues is supernatural truth and the pursuit of truth. That science pursues is natural truth and those are both very good things and those things will never be in conflict with each other as long as they are true. So what we look at it. Look at joshua ten and it is very rare although you find some people who claim that this is a description of an actual day that was extended to be as long as two days right that the sun stood still or the earth rotation stopped in another way to say it and that what people were able to see was for an day plus two days were able to see the sun in the midst of the sky. Now one could be could be exactly supernatural miracle. I say that because there was a similar miracle. Roughly a hundred years ago in a place called fatima at fatima. There was the story in october of nineteen. Seventeen mary our lady had appeared to some children there and a number of occasions at one point. She said that something was gonna happen. those there was going to be a sign on that on this particular date on the thirteenth october in nineteen seventeen in particular place and so on that date and that place a number of people in fact i think the number is tens of thousands. If i'm not mistaken tens of thousands of people showed up many of them believers but also many of them skeptics many of them atheists and many of them simply out to see the show to disprove the fact that nothing happened. There was no miracle there was no sign. What happened was as some point. The sign was involved the sun in the sky and at one point the claim was everyone saw who's gathered there whether they were believers or not. They saw what they describe later on as the sun dancing in the sky which will make them look like the sun was shimmering and then began to move around the sky. We know that that's it's solely impossible. That doesn't that does not happen. According to nature because if that were to be the case then the entire solar system would be thrown way out of whack and everyone would have noticed it even not just the people who were at that location in fatima but also around the world and yet it was interesting as people in the local area saw it but nowhere else was it registered in yet again. You have multiple news sources people who showed up intending to disprove that anything had happened and every single one of them experienced this thing. That's called the miracle of the sun from fatima. So in that case was there a violation of the laws of nature. A violation of the laws of of sun and moon and orbit. And all those things. I don't know if it was a violation of it. But what the experience of it was for the people who were there was unmistakable and undeniable it was a miracle that did not throw all of the cosmos into chaos. And so could something like that have happened in joshua chapter ten absolutely. I mean it happened hundred four years ago so yeah it could absolutely something like that could have happened but also we recognize that sometimes scripture uses figures of speech right sometimes uses figures of feature or like a poetic language to say that yeah. The battle was so fierce. That in metals went for the israelites. So well that the amount of when they got thrown a victory they got was like a battle that had gone on for for two days so whether he reads it. Poetically says kind you know we. We were genesis one through eleven in poetic way. That's great are we say god can premiera calls. He has done it even more recently. There has been even say for lack of better term photographic evidence or evidence of people who were skeptics and atheists and their to disprove the miracle who experience the miracle. God can do those kinds of things and has done those kinds of things. So joshua chapter ten should not bother us because good faith and good. Science never ever contradict one last thing. I have mentioned this before. And i'm going to mention it. Maybe more depth way in the next few days but when it comes to all these battles recognized that. This isn't necessarily god's plan what i mean but that is not necessarily god's i plan that's i plan is that as children belong to him the whole world would know him that we would say yes to him with everything we are. Gods i plan is that we would live in harmony with each other and live in harmony with him. That is god's original plan for humanity that's original plan for all the nations for all races for all peoples for all of it. That's god's original plan is that we live in harmony with him in harmony with each other. God's original plan is not death is not destruction is not violence. It is only a result of our broken humanity in our broken. This got allow his in his plan. What we just read and what we're going to read in the next couple of days. 'cause book of joshua is a book violence and is a book of violence in which god is somehow mysteriously but actually involved and that is very problematic for us. Because we're so used to. God saying he's the god of peace. At as i mentioned he is jesus principe's and yet if we look back over the entire story one of the things reminded of and he's wondering behind all of us. We're going to go a little bit more deeply into this in the next couple of days. But we're reminded of the fact that this is not part of god's original plan that's original plan is not that people of israel would wage war against men. Women children all these kind of things. It is only a result of this broken. This in the world is only the result of the fact that do not live in harmony with each other but it is not god's original plan it started out as peace on earth peace with him with us peace within us and it ends with peace again. That's the thing. Is that if you go to the end of the story. What's revealed to us. We got reveals no that all tribes all nations all races in even read the book of revelation. It's everyone in fact. John writes in boca relation that he saw a multitude of people again from every tribe every nation on earth every race every city all peoples gathered into one being once again reunited as one holy family one kingdom on in unearth and so. This is not a battle of racist. It's not a battle of this and he's this is not a battle of people's ultimately that got once what he wants is the triumph of his name that all people help people even in the midst of this broken world a come to know him come to be united once again with each other but along the way it is very very messy and his very troubling and we experienced even today. But there's not. God wants god wants ultimately as our unity what he wants ultimately is our peace because he reveals the yes the way to. That might be this difficult in destruction but there's something at the end of chapter eleven where it just that. Last line said end. The land had rest from war. And that is what god wants for us. In our hearts in our countries in our world the finally at some point have rest for more. Keep praying for each other because sometimes it is hard drive our hearts and minds around these things and so what we do. We say okay got. Let's keep on reading. Let's keep moving forward. Let's keep trusting. Let's keep on fighting not against each other but people in fighting for each other. That's why we pray for each other. I'm praying for you. please pray for me. My name's father. Mike cannot wait to see you. Tomorrow god bless.
$1000 Checks for Gov. Employees; An Autonomous Vehicle in Peachtree Corners; Gwinnett Sports This Weekend
"Today today's friday february twelfth actor. Josh brolin turns forty-three today. Here are your top stories on the gwinnett daily post. Podcast brought to you my key. Amal georgia a thousand dollar bonus. Checks are headed for most georgia government. Employees peachtree corners has announced the arrival of its autonomous vehicle technology testing curiosity lab. The expansion of hebron christian academy's lower school is underway peachtree corners. Unveils the newest button gwinnett sculpture. You can discover the hidden. Worlds of the maya with fern banks new exhibit and the jackson. Emc foundation has awarded twenty five thousand dollars to agency serving county residents plus daily posts. Sports editor will hamic brings us up to date with action around the area. Why by kia up towards ya. We provide award winning. Customer satisfaction have been a family owned business for over twenty years buying or leasing with us as fast and easy and you could get pre-approved simple steps. We offer top dollar on trade ins in have new vehicle specials that are updated every month and are factory trained technicians make servicing your vehicle convenient with extended service hours. Stop by and shop with us on the lot or visit us online at love. My kia dot com georgia officials announced on wednesday that a large chunk of state government employees will be receiving one thousand dollar bonus checks the one time supplemental payouts will go to an estimated fifty seven thousand state workers who are earning salaries less than eighty thousand dollars annually. State officials gave few details on how the bonus will be paid other than it would entail fifty nine point six million dollars to be included in the states. Mid-year budget the bonus will benefit state public health workers state troopers labor department employees who inspectors child support case workers and staff from other state agencies. Peachtree corners officials have announced. The city is adding a vehicle for testing mobility and autonomous technologies at its curiosity lab living laboratory ford edge based test vehicle has level three autonomous capabilities companies and organizations. Doing work at the lab will use it to develop and prove whether they're new advanced mobility and autonomous technologies work hebron christian academy officials recently kicked off construction on an expansion of its lower school. A two story elementary school building which will include eight additional classrooms. A teacher work room office and storage space. The school hosted a groundbreaking for the expansion on february third and planned to have the expansion open by august so it can be used for classes during next year's school year once the expansion is completed it is expected to increase the enrollment by one hundred additional students. The city of peachtree corners recently unveiled its third button. Gwinnett sculpture which was designed created by a local artist land campbell. The art selected for the sculpture depicts a variety of species of butterflies to express beauty of diversity color unity and harmony. It's located next to the pedestrian bridge at the entrance to the newest section of the city's corners connector multi use trail the city of peachtree corners. Agreed to install a total of six sculptures to others have already been installed one on technology parkway and another on engineering drive. Has the time come for you and your family to buy or sell a new home. Peggy slap properties is here to help hegi and the team have been in gwinnett and surrounding areas for thirty eight years helping folks. Just like you and me peggy slap you. Properties consist of more than thirty five realtors that realized fostering strong relationships with community is the key to their business. They work with you. 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Bank now has an exhibit about the mayan people and their world of mystifying tombs. Human sacrifices ancient languages and amazing architecture. The new exhibit. Maya hidden worlds revealed opens on february thirteenth and is one of the largest visions of ancient. Maya that has ever been displayed in the us. The exhibition brings together more than two hundred authentic artifacts and immersive environments timed online tickets required in advance. You get yours at fern. Bank museum dot org the jackson. Emc foundation board of directors awarded over ninety two thousand dollars in grants during its december meeting including twenty five thousand dollars to organizations serving. wouldn't county. This is made possible by the one hundred ninety nine thousand four hundred twenty four participating cooperative members who have their monthly electric bills rounded to the next dollar amount through the operation roundup program. Those grants include ten thousand dollars for house of ten thousand dollars for is of love lighthouse mission and five thousand dollars for adults protecting children and now look at sports in the area brought to you by kiam of georgia. Here's community reporter. Jp edwards and the sports editor of the gwinnett daily post will hammock. We'll let's start off with a local guy who just signed an nfl contract. He's a collins hill. Graduate taylor heineke tell me about It's it's great for him. it's great stability. I think that's what he's looking for. His guys kinda bounced around a little bit. He's always been a talented kid. Now has been hard work really respected by teammates and and it's great for colin sells well just to get a an nfl player from your school. It does a lot for your football program. And i'm sure they're gonna do a lot of things over the years to honor taylor. We'll hammocks a sports editor at the gwinnett daily post. And will you went to swimming and diving championships. Where gwinnett county schools had a strong showing. We have a state champion and we have three teams in the top five. Tell me about what you saw was the most obvious is the north winds boys Winning the state championship it a great effort by north. They did a lot more than last year. That a three hundred sixty one points which was forty more than i scored last year when they when state so it was great to see them repeat the had three top five relays which which is huge points to get to that that that level but individually smith thanks to lucon had a couple of state runner up finishes trista. Denver broncos had two third place finishes so a lot of points there as well and like you said freak couple more teams in the top. Five park views third. They wanna state championship in the two hundred. Medley relay With nate stole having a big meat. So good job by those teams made on the top five. And you look at the the girls made. I think what what highlighted the girls mate was a lily. Burke and abby mccullough from brooklyn and parkview they want to more state titles each that gives them thirteen combined state titles and sixteen individual events in their career. There been post swimmer the year the last couple of years a good chance to see them repeat in that again this week and also well the state championship wrestling tournament is coming up this weekend. Yeah the number one beepers looking for a sweep. They won the state duals and they're looking for a better performance in the state traditional. Bring home some individual titles and hopefully bring on the team trophy In the upper classes tougher gwinnett team to win a state championship there. But i think there's a lot individual wrestlers things that can accomplish in a to play titles this so looking forward to see that that comes out at state wrestling no wesleyan Finished fifth in the state. They already wrestled their their championships. Great showing about wesleyan to take fifth the sam schmidt and tanner bevan's both had state runner up finishes individually. We'll hammock is a sports editor at the gwinnett daily post and will. What are you looking forward to. That's coming up in sports round gwinnett county. It's a it's region tournament weeks. I think That's what we're looking at mostly. Next week we're swimming and wrestling behind us. So we can. We can focus on basketball postseason. Of course the spring sports are overlapping. She always of that going on. But the region basketball tournament will be fun to watch all next week to kind of determine seating for state to state we need determined who's qualify for state is always the most exciting next week so looking forward to this we'll Exports editor gwinnett daily post in. I'm jp edwards for the gwinnett. Daily post podcast. 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Editors Picks: January 25th 2021
"It's monday the twenty fifth of january twenty one. I'm rachel lloyd. Editor prosperous economists blog on books arts and culture. Welcome to editor's picks where you can hear. Three highlights from the audio portion of the economist. A cover this week. Looks the prospects with forty six american president joe biden. He must contend with the pandemic an economic crisis and democratic decay. At home a look. Go wrong. Mr biden's fakes hebron centrism. It's well see too difficult. Moment for america next ethiopia civil war beyond the government. A pissed trying to stop rebel region into submission and finally about to be call him. Wacko management discuss the secrets of successful listening. The stories you're about to hear are just a sample of what's on offering the economists this week with a subscription you can read or listen to all of our journalism feel best introductory offer economists dot com slash. Podcast offer the is in the show notes fast up the biden presidency. Joe biden has been dreaming of moving into the white house since at least one thousand nine hundred eighty seven when he first ran for president. How those dreams must have differed from the reality this week. The official toll of american deaths from covid nineteen has passed four hundred thousand by the end of his first one hundred days. It may have passed five hundred thousand. Millions of americans have lost their jobs. Instead of observing the triumph of democracy in eastern europe from the oval office as the victor of the election in one thousand nine hundred eight did. Mr biden must contend with democratic decay. At home it is not an auspicious start yet unlikely as it sounds in the next few months the view from sixteen hundred pennsylvania avenue could improve dramatically mending. America starts with getting the virus under control vaccinating. The population will be a formidable operation. Will test the ability of federal state and local bureaucracies to cooperate a slick campaign of the type. The federal government masterminded to radically polio would save many lives yet. Even an imperfect vaccination program will make a huge difference by the time. Spring turns into some warmer weather around hints longer. Spent outdoors will help to covid. Nineteen spreads exponentially but once the number of people. Each person infects falls below one. It'll suit dissipates. Exponentially this in turn will help. America's economic recovery though the labor market is about as depressed as it was when mr biden was sworn in as barack obama's vice president in the teeth of the financial crisis this downturn is very different real disposable income probably rose at its fastest rate for two decades in twenty twenty a measure of the huge stimulus pumped into the economy by the federal government. The banking system look sound and the economic pain is not widespread but concentrated among workers in businesses that depend on cramming lots of people into confined spaces many of the move. Find this of us in demand again. From americans months they emerged from a year of hibernation. Taking advantage of how the federal government can borrow at virtually no calmest. Mr biden's team is set on another one point. Nine trillion dollars fiscal stimulus bringing the total budget support. Since the pandemic hit to twenty seven percent of pre-crisis gdp he may not be able to get fat passed the senate nor is it clear. The economy needs old of it but even a trimmed down version of the biden opening bid. More money for vaccine distribution extending unemployment insurance and expanding child tax credits would have big effects. The tax credit change alone could have child poverty for the political crisis that required twenty five thousand troops on the streets. At mr biden's inauguration its causes will soon fade the republican party that became organized around the principle of loyalty to a man who has no loyalty to anything apart from himself. A dangerous counseling of racist factions and the rise of alternative facts were decades in the making but the fbi is watching threats from domestic terrorism. The former president is just a citizen who might run for office again in two thousand and twenty four assuming congress does not bar him from doing so after his impeachment trial and mr biden about his inauguration declared his clear support for the rule of law and racially quantity which at another time might have sounded like platitudes. This will help. Lower the temperature of american politics. Which could open other possibilities by working with republicans eager for congress to get things done. Mr biden may yet be able to pass an infrastructure bill and something on climate change as well as his covid. Nineteen package in textbooks. Democracy involves solving problems through compromise and managing conflict in elections with the president inclined to build a coalition at labatt. Spirit might return to washington. Voters may even prefer it to twenty four hour partisan warfare. That is what needs to happen. America faces challenges that require the government to help. Not just get out of the way. America has done a worse job of schools open in the past year than any other country. Enrollments of phoolan suggesting that many children have dropped out of education higher death rates for african americans and hispanics on a reminder that health is linked to skin color four years of donald trump of hollowed out institutions and weakened constraints on malfeasance. His parting act was to pardon a doctor convicted of profiting from carrying out unnecessary treatment on hundreds of elderly patients. He rescinded his own executive order. Which would have stopped his administration officials working as lobbyists. The past four years of also created a problem for america abroad at the back of their minds. Foreign leaders know that the forces which brought mr trump to office could return with a future president so any agreements american diplomats make risk seeming temporary. Mr biden's foreign policy will also required a series of impulsivity hog trade-offs. His team needs the cooperation of the russian government to sign an extension of the new start treaty on nuclear weapons which expires on february fifth yet. That same government has just locked up russia's most prominent opposition politician alexina vanni after first attempting to kill him. They need china's cooperation. Climate change even though china is engaged in want. The outgoing administration has just labeled as genocide against the weakest in xinjiang. A lot could go wrong. Senate republicans may oppose everything. Mr biden suggests simply because he is a democrat. The left of his party may turn sour on him for trying to make deals with republicans. Politics has been simple during the trump administration which more often governed by inflaming partisan fights than fixing america's problems engaging with reality is much harder especially when you are audited by events. Have the best chance of success. Mr biden should stick to his folksy brand of dogged centrism which is so well suited to the moment. Western allies should be patient and not expect to miraculous overnight transformation. The return of restraint to the white house will be only the first step in a long journey but it is unnecessary. One for america's renewable sleepyhead. Why so sleepy. Oh it's because your mattress is a bag of potatoes and scrap metal. You should try a nectar mattress award winning layers of comfort. You can sleep easy knowing you got incredible value. Mattresses start at just four hundred ninety nine dollars and you get hundreds of dollars in accessories thrown in as well as three hundred sixty five night home trial and a forever warranty go to nectar sleep dot com next thumb in crimes ethiopia has suffered famines in the past many foreigners. No this in nineteen eighty five about one. Third of the world's population watched a pop concert to raise money for starving ethiopians. What is less well. Understood is that poor harvests lead to famine only when malign rulers allow it. It was not the weather that killed perhaps one million people in nineteen ninety three to ninety five it was the policies of a marxist dictator mengistu highly meriem who forced peasants at gunpoint onto collective farms and gives do also tried to crush an insurgency in the northern region of tigray by burning crops destroying stores and slaughtering livestock when the head of his own government's humanitarian agency. Begged him for cash to feed the starving. He dismissed him with a memorably. Callous phrase. don't let these petty human problems consume you. Things was supposed to be different under abby made the upn prime minister who has hailed as a reformer when he took charge in two thousand eighteen and who won the nobel peace prize the following year yet once again it looks as if hunger is being used as a weapon in africa's second most populous nation and once again the scene of the horror is tigray since fighting broke out in november between federal forces. And those of t grays rebellious former ruling party. Perhaps two million out of six million tigrayans a thought to have fled their homes. Many could now stav because the government has led so little food into the region agencies gas that between two million and four point. Five million people need urgent assistance. They cannot be more precise because the phone. Networks down and the government has barred reporters from entering tigray. The few who make it in return with horrifying accounts of ethnic cleansing 's mass rapes and starvation. Plenty of food is available. Charities and un agencies have been trying to get supplies through a months about ethiopia's orwellian ministry of peace has sent them on a paper chase for permits for more than two months. There has been essentially no access to tigray says mark lowcock. The un's humanitarian chief. There are four hundred fifty tonnes of supplies. We've been trying to get in. That are stuck on those occasions when the federal government grants permission for eight laurie to pass it is typically stopped on route by regional governments which insist that they too need to give permission all halted by troops incite tigray meanwhile there are credible reports of government full sees or their allies killing livestock and burning crops if true both the perpetrators and those who gave the orders are guilty of war crimes. Abby insists that his troops respecting humanitarian law. The conflict is not a civil war but amir police action. He claims his government that restrictions on aid workers are for their own safety few believe him moreover many observers fear that the fighting has grown too complex for the government to control troops from neighbouring. Eritrea have joined the fray as have militias from a rival ethnic group. The am harrah's outsiders should press all parties to let civilians eat. Joe zep burrell. The eu's foreign policy chief has suspended eight million euros. That's one hundred. Seven million dollars of budget support until agencies are given access to tigray. This is a good first. Step others sanchez. America and britain should add financial pressure. Ethiopia is desperately short of foreign currency and depends on loans and grants from the i. m. f. and world bank until its government allows food into tigray donors should not give it another dollar and finally lessons from a hostage negotiator when people talk. Listen completely those words of ernest. Hemingway might be a pretty good guiding principle. Many managers as might the dictum enunciated by zeno of city. Him a greek philosopher. We have to is and one mouth so we should listen more than we say for. People like being listened to some firms. Use the technique known as a listening circle in which participants are encouraged to talk openly and honestly about the issues. They face such as problems with colleagues in such circle. Only one person can talk at a time and there is no interruption. A study cited in the harvard business review found that employees who had taken part in listening circle subsequently suffered less social anxiety and had fewer worries about work related matters than those who did not listening has been critical to the career of richard mallender who was a british police officer for thirty years. Eventually he became hostage negotiator dealing with everything from suicide interventions to international kidnaps by the end of his stint in uniform. He was the lead trainer for the metropolitan police's hostage negotiation unit. When he left the force in two thousand and seven he realized that his skills might be applicable in the business world so he set up a firm called the listening institute. Mr melander defines listening as the identification selection and interpretation of the key words that turn information into intelligence. It is crucial to all effective communication. Plenty of people think that good listening is about nodding your head. Oh keeping eye contact but that is not really listening. Mr melander argues a good. Listener is always looking for facts emotions and indications of the interlocutors values and when it comes to negotiation. People are looking for an outcome. The aim of listening is to ascertain what the other side is trying to achieve another important point to bear in mind. Is that when you talk. You are not listening every time you share an opinion you give out information about yourself. Mr melinda says in contrast a good listener by keeping quiet gains an edge over his or her counterpart hostage negotiators usually work in teams but the lead negotiator is the only one who talks what we teach. Is that the second person in. The team doesn't really talk a tool because if they are busy thinking about the next question to ask. They aren't really listening. Mr melinda explains the mistake. Many people make is to ask too many questions rather than letting the other person to the listeners. Focus should be on analysis. If you are trying to persuade someone to do something you need to know what their beliefs are. If someone is upset you need to assess their emotional state. Of course a listener needs to speak occasionally one of which is to make an assessment of what the other person is telling you and then check in with them. It seems to me what you want is x. That gives the other party a sense that they are being understood. The fundamental aim is to build up a relationship. Said the other person likes you and trusts you. Mr melinda says the pandemic has meant that most business conversations now take place on the phone or online precious few in person meetings occur. Some might think this makes listening more difficult. It is harder to pick up. The subtle cues that people reveal their facial expressions and body language. But mr melinda says that too much is made of body language it is much easier to understand someone if you can hear them but not see them dan if you can see them but not hear them. He prefers to negotiate by telephone. Another key to good listening is paying attention and avoiding destruction in the information age. It is all too easy for focused adrift to a news headline tiktok talk radio or the latest outrage on twitter in another study in the harvard. Business review. Participants paired with distracted. Listeners felt more anxious than those who received attention. The lockdown has increased the need for managers to listen to workers since the opportunities for casual conversation have dwindled. Mr melinda thinks that many people have become frustrated in their isolation which can lead to stress and anger. He thinks maybe a business opportunity in helping managers listened more efficiently so they can enhance employee wellbeing after a year of isolation many workers would probably love the chance to be heard. Thank you for listening to editor's picks. The more from the economist subscribe economists dot com slash podcast offer. I'm rachel lloyd and in london. This is the economists.
KB Presents: Project Raptor
"This is manifest zone. The podcast that explores the breath and depth of the world of Braun is a tabletop R._p._G.. Setting I'm one of your hosts Chris Ron. Oh I'm Keith Baker and I'm Scott Walker and this episode is a bonus bonus episode and it coincides with the announcement of Keith's newest project with the codename Raptor now Scott. I know nothing about this. We heard nothing about it at all and so we're here with Keith now to ask you. He what is this and why are you making. It will ranters something that I've wanted to do pretty much ever since <hes> the way finders guide you know basically since it became possible we'll <hes> to create material for the D._M._Z.. Geld <hes> essentially there are so many elements of ever on <hes> that I have wanted to explore lorrimore depth ever since the setting I came out <hes> and I've you know until last year it wasn't possible to <hes> publish ebre material and until now I frankly just haven't had any time <hes> since it's become possible to actually do it and so this is really a chance <hes> while it is non Canon you know this is a non official book. Look it's a chance to really touch on some of my favorite parts of the setting and also especially parts of the setting that have never been explored in detail <hes> and to really he present my view of them. Are you telling me that we might get planes of Hebron. You will definitely get plans of ever on. I will go ahead and say that one of the things I've I've wanted to do again. Since the game I doubt came out is we created this unique cosmology forever on separate from the great wheel but then we never actually Salihi <unk> in Canon material never had more than a couple of pages of <hes> ideas and for me. The planes are very different from the traditional Gandhi planes and I really want to explore that and in particular I want to explore it from the perspective. Both of what are the planes themselves. How are they different and unique <hes>? What is it like to explore them? What are the things you could find there but also how can they affect your adventure? Even if you never go to the planes so inept Harem we have manifest S. Jones. We have coterminous periods in remote periods and there's also just that question of what interest do the denizens of these planes have in ever you know what could cause so you <hes> to run into something from a bar and what would that even look like and so so all of those are again. It's that combination of I want to delve into the more and you know talk about what are these places in <hes> what makes them inspiring and interesting but also to really provide some concrete. How is this going to make? How can you use this to make an interesting lead? Story sold me so I'm going to say so following on. That was the with the planes. Is this going to sort of expand on key <music> areas guide. It's going to definitely it's it's a sort of <hes> I'll go ahead and say it is divided into a couple of different sections which approach different things so. It's not like the whole thing is just a Guillotiere Taylor if you will <hes> so some of it will <hes> joined again. I'm being vague about this because we're going to reveal it sort of in pieces as we go so certainly <hes> I'm going aim to be sharing more on my website <hes> because it's not gonNA come out to a toll towards the end of the year and and as we go I'll be sharing. Some of it on my website will be sharing some of it on the K._b.. Presents website all note that <hes> were developing taking a lot of the art right now <hes> have a number of just really fantastic artists working on it <hes> that we've already begun sharing some of those images and so for one thing looking at those images you'll get some guesses as to what <hes> we might I talking about <hes> but it is very much I will say it doesn't cover everything that has not been touched on in depth Abram because that would be a whole bunch of books <hes> but it is certainly hitting on some of my favorite things and the things I've wanted to talk about <hes> immoral detail for a long time <hes> you know so I'll throw out on the one hand that's things like the plane's on the other hand. It's also so things like I'm going to present some thoughts on the faiths of ever on and that those are things of course that have been covered in face of ever on and in even in you know way finders and such touch but just wanting to talk a little again about <hes> my perspective and you know how I use them in my ever on and again. It's an on Canon Book. You don't have to follow this example but it's presenting eighteen <hes> ideas another thing I know I can go ahead and say I want to look a little more again at the history and just say that way finders really barely touches on the history of the World Holt and even the fourth edition book didn't go into a lot of depth and I don't want to sort of be a burden on that but the whole point to me of history is what is it that makes it compelling edition to a story how does the history of the world <hes> give you options in elements and hooks to work with and I think with all of that in general that sort of the point here her is the source books give you this concrete information and what I want to do. Here is go into a little more depth than something like the way finders guy could on a number of topics <hes> but always with at that point in mind of how does this make your stories more interesting and I think it's interesting because <hes> in the interview with the design team <hes> they the point was made about <hes> often settings go too much into history rather than focusing had absolutely but I think you're exactly right in that with Lebron in particular there is a lot of history that has shaped the current state of the world. We have the edge of giants the edge of demons and so on and that's exactly the point to me is that's just the thing is history for its own sake and this is something that to me is a basic tenet of world building is he's just creating ten thousand years of history and here's you know three pages of lines of kings or something like that isn't at all useful. If you can't imagine how does this make an interesting story and so to me something like the age of giants is a perfect example of it did happen many thousands of years ago you know the actual events of of you know diplomacy between the Culture Dominion and <hes> the League. That's not really that important but just that point that there were different giant nations and how could that affect your story what were they particularly noted for one of the relics as they left behind what are the ways in which is there to doomsday machine and if so what would it look like <hes> and so that sort of the point to me. Is that focus on how has what scum gone before how could come up today in a way that is both interesting and compose an interesting challenge for your players. Why does history matter right like you it helps inform the types of stories and adventures that the player characters will experience yeah so when they go to a giant ruin Syndrich? There's like flavor and description and even opportunities to to pay story out of that. That's exactly the point and it's one thing I think that fourth edition did reasonably well. Those just sort of a little section that some people may not have noticed is it had a section that was specifically. What are the different types of dungeons you could encounter in? How are those different so the fact is that you could have a giant ruin? You can have it to Connie ruin. You could have a ruined from the age of demons. These are all dungeons but what makes them different. What could you expect to find there and why? Why is someone going to go to one of these right? It's not like these are generic dungeons that all look the same. They're gonNA have unique architecture. They're going to have unique features unique relics and so on and that usually Goldman's is a really good example to me of. You've even now in the core books. There's almost no explanation of what was the world actually like and you know one of the questions. Some of these are topics that at least addressed on my website but one of the questions is what is a demon ruin even look like like why didn demons have cities as and <hes> and you to me just sort of touching on those those points of what was the purpose of the structure and why would it still exist awesome. What would you find their? You know. These are things that again can make a make for a very interesting story. Now I will say that that's not a huge frankly section of the book. It's just again one of the subjects that to me again. It's a chance to go into a little more detail than what's gone before and with that focus of how is this useful for you the reader so Scott. I have tons of questions but I don't WanNa. I don't WanNa Hog Mike so I'm Gonna I'm GonNa let you ask something if I mean there's so much right. 'cause I mean any ever on nerd is going to be frothing at the prospect of this because now you're going to basically we have something new from the hand of the master. So are I know one of the big ones speaking of history and it's one that gets brought up constantly in every game online the morning the morning land. What are we gonNA do with that? uh-huh clarify. What is it you want to be done with that? Okay so <hes> I think I would have liked to have had more information on Siri Ryan prior to the cataclysm light. Yes Siri doesn't have their crests in when I run a number on game. I always run your Siri refugees. I don't WanNA say Syrian refugees Syrian refugees. I like to start with that route but there's no crest. There's a little snippet of colors is that are commonly but something like Siri and then maybe exploring I don't. I don't think he wouldn't want you to answer what while I know there. Are People want you to have a definitive say. I'm not going to answer. I will tell you for a fact. This book will not tell you what caused the morning impart in part because as I think I've said <hes> on on our show I don't have an answer not even quote unquote in my Aron no no and this is the thing is in my ever on the point is I don't have the answer because <hes> my stories are always more driven by the Cold War fallout of the morning and solve and of course when we say in my ever while certainly I can just point to the novels and such and say well. I can certainly tell tell ya characters who have theories you know I've had people come up with theories and I can always of course in if that section was in <hes> was in the book what I would say is is the thing I certainly have done is said <hes> <hes> here are six possible explanations for the morning and the consequences of each of those being the case <hes> but I'm not saying that is just saying you know that's where I looked to it. <hes> it is certainly the case that first off I completely agree with you. More information about Syria's certainly a valid thing because it is such a strong <hes> sort of basis for characters. I it's something that I did try and work at least a little bit in in the way finders guide of at least just treats it like any of the other nations and specifically sort of talks about characters being from there <hes> so I do think that's a really good topic and I also definitely would like to see more about the moorland and again types of adventures. You can have their you know one of the little things to me about the moorland it is just that whole point that <hes> from Canon sources. We have these little things. Oh there's no healing. There's no this <hes> whereas to me. The Moorland should be a place that is filled with the unexpected that you can't entirely predict what you're going to find there and that means people could use more information about what they could find <hes> but I'm not going to say if that's in the booker right right so ah so Scott when you brought up Syria I recalled Keith's article on his blog about the Siri pre day of mourning and that led me to question. How much of the content on your blog are you? <hes> I guess looking to transpose transform into raptor fifth question no no it's a really good question and what I'd say is it is not gest taking stuff off my blog and throwing it into a book I will say that actually <hes> more great miscellany was closer to that because more grade miscellany was a discussion seven of different classes and a big part of my part of that was actually expanding on what I've hangar it wouldn't be an interview without a fundraising okay <hes> that might come back here because I think I actually just hung up on them instead of ending to voicemail but we'll elsie and I apologize so where was I we were talking about <hes> how mortgage rates so there. We go okay this time. I've just got a decline in this is totally staying yeah for comedic value yeah yeah I think everyone will appreciate it. Of course they will all right there. We go okay so with more miscellany. <hes> eat focused very much on classes you know class by class breakdown and that was something I had explored on my website and I did use a certain amount of that material bill because that was the whole thing of adding depth. What is the role of a barbarian in Aron words go? I'M NOT GONNA say that I won't <hes> reuse some MHM material. <hes> if it's entirely appropriate like I will say for example. I wrote a long article about Malabar on my website. Now I will say I am not just putting that article in the book because the format I'm GonNa be using is very different. It is <hes> concretely about how does this affect an adventure <hes> it is concretely about Dean D. which after all on my website a you know always been very sort of vague about <hes> <hes> so I would say that it definitely is sort of using those things I've already written as inspiration <hes> but it is not simply owen taking this scenario he wrote in just adding adding another five hundred words to it or some no-no yeah. I don't think anybody would expect that <hes> I. I guess it was more of like. Can we look forward to a sort of a collection of these ideas that you've handed me mechanical chemical more <unk>. I definitely think again booking to things like the planes in particular you can certainly expect that what I've written about Ma bar and I wrote another article that touched on Iran and <hes> <hes> daddy you can certainly expect that I'm going to be using pushing forward on those ideas but I will say especially with the book overall overall. It is not just ascribing articles from my website of lot of the Yang's yeah. I'm just saying I mean a lot of the things I'm covering are things that I haven't even really <hes> touched on the website. Although there certainly a couple of things that that I have because their favorite topics online so I'm GonNa ask this question because I know somebody's going to ask it out there and in the past you have talked about an underwater kingdom or underwater kingdoms plural is that something that we might be able to see might be okay. It's terrible I will I will certainly say that that is another example of a aspect of the setting that <hes> has literally never been explored floored indepth <hes> and that is certainly you know underwater. <hes> kingdoms are something that I had thought about going back to our our previous interview. You know it is one of the things that was part of the hundred page sh a story Bible that I submitted <hes> that just ended up not being incorporated the world at all and I think that was for two reasons you know the I was underwater. Venturing is very difficult especially depending on the system but also just as I talked about in that setting the world originally just had a lot more countries than such and <hes> reducing the scope was essentially necessary necessary just to ensure that things covered as much as they did and you know add another five countries in that are underwater countries that no one's ever you know you're going to <hes> not visit very frequently. Definitely I see the reason to cut it but to me given that you have intelligent <hes> species. You know that you have this point that the oceans aren't just this empty space as they are for us. They are nations. The you know just for trade and travel <hes> you know how do you interact with with those nations so I will certainly say that. That is a topic <hes> that I I have always wanted to explore <hes> but I'm not gonNa say just yet whether it's one of the topics in the book just to keep the suspense going bit long enough yeah. Some Grad Scott got about this. 'cause this went concerns. You and I probably the most are we gonna see an official Keith Baker v addition Arun Artifice Her <hes> well I it to that <hes> you know that is the thing we're that is frankly in the hands of wizards <hes> where they've already done at this point you know two more rounds of <hes> of of Cumana there and I do feel that it's gotten better you know <hes> and so what I would say is the point is the reason it's not in in way. Finders for example is because that is something that wizard said we're GONNA do this. You know this is going to be official. It's gotta be balanced. It's got to go through all the development process and so what I can say to that is you're not gonna see unofficial artifice class in this book because this is not an official book <hes> I I do believe that you will see unofficial artifice from wizards and <hes> you know we can go ahead and say that that it has been acknowledged that that there is a official <hes> Abram book in the works and I'm just saying I would I would think that even though I can't say any details I would expect that <hes> with all the artificial play testing going on that you will see an artifice in that I hear you guys are just GonNa Paint Keith in a quarter for a second I you I respect wizards but technically said Keith Baker version of let's see it's back. It's it's back to. I want to present my own. Take 'em thoughts on the officer but frankly I can't do that until there is an artifice to who then present my thoughts on if you see what I'm saying that you need that final version to be able to it right. I'm just saying if you look at the last two versions the artificial that have come out. They're so different if I had taken that first one and then tried to say well here's my thoughts on what I do this to fit into the world <hes> it would be completely different than what is there with the second one <hes> I will certainly say that whenever it comes out whether it is <hes> in this book or on my website you can certainly expect that I will <hes> share my thoughts and and what I would do with it and I will say that it's something that I did write article. The last version came out of that. It'd be tried to sort of put into perspective. You know I do think it is that point of here's what the mechanics are like but how does this translate to how the Class A works in the world in be even just at table you know to me I had a lot of ideas and that <hes> that posted that make the class more interesting to me so yes I. I will certainly say that whenever it comes is out you can expect to see something from me. Relating to it well that leads to another question I have in regards to <hes> mechanical content. Should we expect to see see like you know options and such for example you know perhaps a subclass for an art officer of your own design or something to that effect. I truly say that that again. That's exactly the point of well I don't. I know it all depends on. If there's an artificial I will certainly say that when there is unofficial artificial <hes> I would certainly want to create a subclass to essentially to try and sort of fill in the holes of what do I you think is missing <hes> and such so. I can't say if that's going to be in this book because I don't know if we'll have an official officer <hes> I can certainly say that it's certainly the kind of thing I would like to put in. I will say that this book <hes> when I compare it to the more great miscellany which was a book I didn't collaboration in this is certainly a book. Where part of the point is this? This is pretty much. Just what I would do my table <hes> I will say that more grape was a little more explicitly here is each class. Here are some sub classes for those classes. <hes> you know is in in a sense of a spin off Santa Stars if you will and I almost say if you were looking to precedent for that this might be almost more likes or Costa venturers guide <hes> where the point is I will have character options but that is not the main focus if that makes sense yeah that it is certainly about out ideas that expand back story that expand <hes> sort of the scope of what you can do with the world and then it will have character options and I and other mechanical elements to support all of that but again that's not the primary focus <hes> it's it's you know <hes> the cool extra bit actor because that makes stomachs really trip. I mean there's a lot of things I am excited to be. <hes> to be working on. I will say again giving away. What's already been getting away? <hes> we already have love a picture out. That's been posted from <hes> Ali Baltimore. <hes> A of a war forged DRUID and I'm not saying that you might see something about war for his druids but you might see something about war for dribbles <hes> so but that is the point again to me of that there will be a character the options and things like that but it's not as sort of concretely built around that as a book like Zenith ours or <hes> more grave right so you so very obviously this is like we have campaign setting books. This is extending beyond in those books. I'd say that I almost want to call this like it's a director's commentary commentary track on the CD of that. The point is you've got the campaign setting book. You don't need me to just do that or even to the degree that way finders was here is just the basics of the setting so this this is saying this is where I want to go deeper into the things that are only touched upon in the campaign setting book amd potentially to go even deeper on things like the planes that have never really been <hes> explored in detail and so the point me to look into the planes as an example <hes> is it's that opportunity to add something to the setting that in a sense. You never knew you were missing because has we never really really revealed how interesting they could be. You know that to this point you'd say well. The only reason I can imagine to go dolar is to try and drag us all back because that's as far as we can tell orbits there and here I want to say but why else might you want to go the dolar. What else is there and again? What is the full impact in? What is a manifesto to dolar <hes> what happens when it's remote you know how is it does it influence the world and <hes> so that's a little different than just talking about something like the blood of all for example because that is a topic? That's been talked about a bunch. I'M GONNA present you know my thoughts. It's on it <hes> but it still been out there where something like going into detail. Abbar has never really been out there other than if you peaked at my my website right fantastic listen so <hes> <hes> there's there have been a number of articles like the all dragon shirts are from three five <hes> are are there any things in there that you may or may not be expanding on like for example those as an article on the moons of ever on that's something that you may spend on well. You know I'll go ahead just again to touch on things I'm not touching on and I wear the moons or not there. I think the moons are interesting because there there is so much you can do with the moon's you know impart. It's tough because if I were to talk about the moon's I'd almost want to present here are three different things you could do with them because on the one hand <hes> you know one of the things I've always said is the moon's might not even be physical bodies. They could be actually planer portals <hes> on the other hand you know once also talked about the Moon's could almost essentially be you know. Oh planet toyed size manifest zones <hes> and you know that you have this opportunity for them to be these sort of wondrous. I still like the idea of a sort of post a young just as we had <hes> you know post war space race <hes> with with the different nations you know sort of racing to <hes> to the moons and I think that could let you really explore a lot of frankly classic pulp genre <hes> stories <hes> but I will say that is in fact not a topic <hes> that will be covered him after the only thing that made me think about that because I think we're for drew was one of the articles it from them so yeah so that led let me to wonder about you know other potential articles that may make their way in there or spin on. I know go ahead against since I had mentioned it. <hes> I will say that part of the point on more for druids you know one of the things is war. Forged are something that that have always been <hes> very near and dear to my heart and that I think there's so much interesting potential to explore <hes> particularly with workforce jurors. The point to me is I am sad about <unk> out the official ruling that war forge druids wild shape into normal animals and <hes> I am a fan of of the idea the idea of war forage becoming or force animals <hes> and that has always been a thing. I have wanted to explore but you know then. There's the question of what are the consequences of that. <hes> what would that you know. You can't just say Oh you get to be a circle circle of the Moon druid but can't you say you get to be a circle of the Moon Druid by you also get extra benefits from you know having living construct subtype or something like that <hes> so I'll just say that has been one of those questions that has been on my mind ever since <hes> way finders as a person who's playing a war for Druid in a campaign so a- As of this announcement there's there's going to be quite a few weeks before this is released and yet you're planning to tease things out. What kind of frequency are we looking at as far as little teases and such honestly I don't know at this point? You know it is a matter of we are talking. You know the book isn't GonNa come out. Tell <hes> definitely late in the year and <hes> there's you know it's going to be a I'd say probably more than one hundred sixty pages. It is something that we're aiming to have a print on demand on release <hes> and we're going to be doing extensive play testing and such <hes> so I would hope you know one of the things that we definitely want to highlight the artists who have been working on it. <hes> you know I want to preview some <hes> text on my side so I would hope you'll it'll be seen a couple of previews a month. <hes> I don't feel I can commit to whether that's GONNA be weekly or every other week <hes> but but we have a lot of interesting stuff to show and a lot of <hes> you know artists who've been working on it <hes> so we'll see yeah that's fair okay <hes> Scott. Do you have any other questions or I continue on now. Go ahead. There's just so much it's just overwhelming you know it really. Is it really <hes> <hes> trying to think of other. There's so many topics that that can be covering deeming ways to see more about <hes> <hes> aeronautical of course I can talk. Here's what I'll say. I don't WanNa reveal what's in the book and impart. I don't want to reopen the buck not only to not spoil the surprise <hes> but also because I'm still writing you know things could change <hes> but I can certainly again you know talk as you're saying about the kinds of things that are interesting to me with the note that I'm not saying these will be. You know we eh Sonny what I'm saying is like moons are a perfect example. You know the moons or a really interesting unexplored aspect of ever on the Moorland is another good example of a place that has a lot of potential <hes> for were <hes> exploration that we haven't had underwater a kingdoms you know again whole area that to me is both an interesting part of the world and yet we know almost nothing talking about but as you said there are so many <hes> places like that like the demon wastes like dro album like Dr Goon <hes> and you know that a Connie Empire <hes> as I said you know things like sort of more detail I wouldn't say about the the last war uh specifically because we do have a whole buck on that but again going back don't get me on <hes> but but again going back to of ways that things could could impact the world world <hes> so with that kind of thing you know an imparted the problem is because there are so many topics that I would love to address <hes> that again that book would be four hundred pages or something like that right <hes> but I will say these are certainly all the kinds of things that we're talking about is things about the world that are unique <hes> and yet yet that we haven't really explored enough depth to really see how they are unique or how they could actually <hes> be drawn into an adventure so so I can imagine that you have a lot of ideas that you WanNa talk about. Oh yeah and in a single product but you you know you've mentioned about one hundred sixty pages thereabouts <hes>. Is this a sort of like a trial run for this type of product in you know the possibility of maybe a series or is this just one and done no no no. I think it's definitely I mean this is sort of the point is I've wanted to <unk> right about the planes forever <hes> frankly. I don't know Oh that an entire I could write one hundred and sixty page book just about the planes easily but I don't know if that book is actually something that the world wants <hes> something you want and I know it's something I want but hard it. Is You know sort of ever since <hes> the Baron came to the guilt you know there are all these things I've wanted to write about and and in a way what this is is taking some of those topics and saying well okay. I'm not gonNA write one hundred sixty page book just on the planes but let's at least actually write right about each of the planes and really give you enough to actually use them and see where that goes <hes> while also covering a number of other topics because you know similarly <hes> again again there's any number of other things that I could frankly write a whole book about the <hes> that I don't have time to and this is also in a way you could look at it and say if I give you forty pages about the planes <hes>. Does everyone say oh. That was fantastic. We really want to know even more. You know we want that. <hes> a hundred sixty page plain book or do people say cool. I've got what I needed a good enough <hes> so this is the whole point of yes we now have a an imprint that is Katie presents <hes> and and the whole idea of that is I'm not saying that's going to be a ongoing constant stream of books but at least it's it's open to it you know and and basically it really is going to be a question of what's the reaction to this. <hes> you know and of course again. There's still a lot of work to do to make it happen <hes> and and so if <hes> if that goes well if <hes> people like the book then I would certainly like to who continue to explore other. Thanks so maybe that moon book will happen. I am I am confident and willing to bet that people are going to want this book and all the material in any and then some yeah I mean well. I we'll tell you it'll definitely be and then some because I know there's things you know that that I would love to cover that you know again one hundred sixty pages. There's only so much you can do <hes> and again. It's the if I wrote it longer. It would just take longer so I'm I'm doing something that feels like a good solid concrete book to me <hes> and then we'll see what happens next so I I use the indy beyond and I I know that right now. It's it's primarily official content. Although I've seen some weird supplements I don't again I dabbled five eighty and I've seen some supplements that I don't quite recognize as a fish as products that I'm aware of <hes> like there are things that I think were. randoms guild and such is there a possibility that <hes> the Deonte might be able to bring this into that platform. I really don't know <hes> again. You know way finders was but way finders <hes> was we've finders is as essentially unearthed Arcana as we said you know it's official as you can be without actually being official. <hes> and I think that'd be really cool <hes> but I really don't know how how that happens if you will be on if you're listening to make it happen right keeps Baker Mega happen. He stills getting level right so I do question this departed. Are we going to see an exploration of any like new factions or new races that Oregon drilling sue and as you have like a Meta plot yeah. I think that's a good question question. <hes> what I will say is that the fourth edition book <hes> concretely did add new factions in added the moorland major bread it added the face buyers and I will say did that is not something I am planning to do in raptor because really what I'm doing in rafter is <hes> delving into more depth on on the things that are already there <hes> <hes> and so it's back to that point of now I mean again. Let's just look at the planes for example in talking about the planes I am going to be talking about. How can these things concretely affect your adventure in in your world and thus may be ideas in there for if you're warlock with ties to Malabar? What is that look like? Why does that happen? What does Malabar want <hes> so? I'm not saying that there won't be sort of New Forces introduced <hes> but that's not the primary focus. The primary focus is more. Let's look at the things that are there but give you more to work with and <hes> sort of to add had inspiration <hes> if that makes any sense absolutely now again not that I'm not open I really obviously like the fading Dream <hes> and the more they made by for that matter from of fourth edition but as I said mainly to me this is about the chance <hes> and I mean I'm just saying you know the other point would be if one were to write about Aquatic Kingdoms part of the point would be what is the impact on the world but again. That's not really something entirely new that something that we know is there that we just haven't really talked about so <hes> so so all that sort of thing you know it will give you new ideas and new things to work with <hes> but the focus isn't to my mind <hes> you know I'd look to something like mortgage miscellany again with the dragon forged where that it really was something that was just entirely new <hes> and that's not really the kind of thing I'm looking to do here so to your point about <hes> fourth edition bringing in new factions actions in such and of course the face buyers and allow Dron <hes> it a canonize T- flings and dragon born as well. Are you looking to expand on that further or are you content with what's already been documented so you know I will say that for example face buyers are part of my ever on and that was something I added. You know that wasn't like it just got forced in. It was basically quickly. That was a case where for Fourth Edition Wizard certainly said essentially a law drian are a important part of fourth edition. How do they fit into ever on and that sort of tied to that whole basic basic point of <hes> if it exists in D._N._d.? There's a place for it in Iran and so the point teeth liens dragon born and laundryman wasn't oh. We're just adding some new faction out of nowhere. It was well here you go. This is N.. Dean D.. Where's a place for it in ever right so as finding a place for that thing that was their impart of what I really tried to do was add all of those in a way that gave them a concrete place but it also left it very easy for a game master who didn't want to use them to ignore them? The face buyers intentionally are isolated so that if you just don't like laundry just don't use them <hes> and so as I said that's a sort of different <hes> thing whereas the point is in <hes> raptor. I don't have that element of take this thing. That didn't have a place in third or fourth and you know I'm exploring the things that were already there. If that makes us yeah yeah I I guess I guess the the point of my question was more T. flings in a ladron in such being nude in fourth edition but <unk> obviously there weren't a lot of supplements that came out with fourth and fifth and you know so so I will say <hes> it is a good example of this is this is the point of I like the face buyers <hes> and and I thought about them and I think they're a fun on way to sort of Bridge Alanis and were on. I'm sure I will mention them. In the th- Alana's section of Raptor <hes> however I'm not planning to go into great detail about that's not the focus <hes> and they aren't being covered. They aren't one of the subjects of raptor but again that is certainly those are topics. If I were to write about Kebara I would definitely write about <hes> the Dragon Board art okay. If I were to write about drove him I would definitely <hes> expand on the venomous domain <hes> and so what I'm saying is I wouldn't necessarily we just make an entire chapter on teeth lanes. Although again I have added some stuff about teeth lanes and other other places in the are mentioned in way finders <hes> but what I'm saying is the venomous domain is an excellent example of I wouldn't necessarily just write a whole section on the venables demand but if I were to write about drove him it's a part of Joe and it's an important part of Joab and this is actually a good example of this is the thing is drove. Him is something we've known about before for but we've never really drilled into what is the relationship between the venomous domain between Catholic draw between lost. You know these civilizations that have existed before dro- out <hes> and and what does it mean that you have an advanced chiefly nation <hes> Indro M._S. part of it. You know how does that play into the plans of the daughters or the capabilities of what they have access to one of the things to me about Dro- am is Joanne is a place where it's all about monsters using their unique abilities as the tools to build a nation and there's lots of different sort of possibilities of what they have there that we haven't had the opportunity <hes> to <hes> to explore <hes> so like I said we'll <hes>. Will there be something just about tiffany's or just about dragging born or just about a law drian new but if I were to cover Joe am I certainly talk about the venomous domain. If I were to cover Kebara I talk about <hes> the dragon born. You'll the trust lors Vic <hes>. If I were to talk about <hes> you know Alanis in that one I've omitted I will you know I will these talk about the face buyers in their right hand the context of that region this is one of the ways yeah this is one of the ways as the modest can affect an adventure so I hope I've been suitably vague. Yeah I mean. 'cause you know if you were to talk about drum. We don't know that you are so I will definitely say not talking about all the subjects. We've talked about that yeah. I might talk about right right so they are all right. I'm looking through. I don't know why I'm using the dragon the dragon shards article as my sort of mine this right yeah yeah yeah and so I'm thinking like you know the article on the <hes> Shos car right on the feathered servants. I gotTA admit that when they're not in there oh sorry about that <hes> you know now. That's an interesting one because that's a perfect example of. They're very obscure. Secure thing that and I say they're not in there now. If I were to write about the silver flame goes yeah but I will say I do not anticipate having say a racial right up for Shalah's scar on the other hand now you mentioned it. You know still time to time to change things around women. It's not too late. Although honestly I still think as a market be pretty well re skinned as this should ask him so I have a question and I sort of alluded to but we just brush past are again. Let's let's let's let's talk about the things you're not going to talk about. Are you planning on putting any sort of <hes> not so much adventures in there but maybe like a <hes> like any kind of adventure creator encounter creator. <music> based on like no are pulp and all that Joe Right. I won't certainly say that again. <hes> you know this isn't an adventure book. <hes> so you know that's not the primary focus on the other hand. I definitely we <hes> really enjoyed like just with way finders. You know I had the whole section there about you know the little charen <hes> random shark adventure generator and also things like the <hes> <hes> sort of random shrine street encounters <hes> and so I certainly will just say that even just again talking about what I have confirmed will be in there with the planes <hes> that you can certainly expect to see things like ideas like that for a what are adventure hooks you know tied to this plane or an I do as I said I really did. Enjoy that little section of of here's the random China Venture <hes> so I think that's that's a good idea. We'll see like I remember on the episode of Drought Withdrawn. You know we talked about different reasons. Why not that? You're going to do a section on drum with different reasons why somebody might be going to draw Traum rain. I can see like a table associated with something like that so so that's certainly the thing is I do like that. Sort of format of <hes> you know I will say that whatever I'm covering <hes> heart of the the point is very much. How is this <hes> something that can affect your story and I think that sort of format of here's eight ideas that <hes> could inspire a story boom <hes>? I really like that you know both from the well you can just roll on this table men. Here's your thing or even if you don't here's eight ideas just presented there as things you could do and <hes> and so I like Mike that sort of thing as opposed to just saying here's two pages of of random details <hes> so you can certainly expect to see <hes> again that kind of actionable. Here's <hes> <hes> here's a ways to work. This concept into a character or an adventure reminds me a little bit of the the old steel. This Hook Archive is well we inspiration for ideas whether use verbatim or modify and I will say that this is sort of the point is there are certainly going to be some parts of this that are more geared towards dont`a masters and adventure building but they're also to me are <hes> you know a lot of it is still about getting getting ideas <hes> for characters and back stories and <hes> and there will certainly be character options. Oh Yeah I mean there's if there's one thing I wish for players my campaigns it's <hes> at they would have more knowledge edge of the setting and so that they can enrich their characters and their back stories and you know when they when they interact with something in the game they can expand on it as well and and I think materials like this are are great for players not not the players have all the time in the world is just sit around and read now know for sure tons of book yeah and that's the kind of thing is is to me. It's back to that. I don't necessarily want like you look two-way finders and I wouldn't necessarily hand that were player and say read this book but on the other hand I might certainly hand it to a player and say hey read this chat. You know read read the introduction and if you're coming from <hes> Bray land read this page on bracelet on and certainly certainly I want that kind of aspect to whether it's re this whole book or just read these three pages. <hes> you know things that they just give people more of an attachment to the world to work with good stuff. I cobbled not saying Inter out not man enough anyhow. I think that that pretty much covers all I can talk about him probably more yeah no <hes> so <hes> we got the impression that Wayne is partially involved with this as well can his <hes> So oh Wenchang host of manifest them you may have heard of him. Oh yeah that guy and he has been doing a brilliant job. <hes> from the start of organizing organizing this <hes> he's just basically producing of the whole thing if you will and <hes> sane emotion he's been <hes> finding organizing directing the art art <hes> and you know basically ever since starting to work with him on manifesto known I've really appreciated his insight into the setting and certainly in terms of writing <hes> this is is this is just me <hes> but <hes> Wayne is is as I said doing a fantastic job of just making it happen and <hes> you know I've really enjoyed working with Wayne just over the last year on on <hes> adventures like curtain call and trust no one and then he's been producing the <hes> across Lebanon right series of adventures and that sort of basically the point of you know I am a person who loves to to make worlds and create things but I'm not a person who loves to wrangle artists <hes> and you know <hes>. There's you know there's definitely this is something we're going to be doing a lot of play testing <hes> you know it's it's GonNa be a very involved. Then and Wayne is making all that happen. That's great so it sounds like it's going to be a very high quality the product I hope yeah we're GONNA. We're GONNA work really hard to make it the best book it can be. That's great. That's awesome. Well I <hes> I think I know Scott are excited about it. Ah I think everybody listening is probably GonNa be excited about it and yeah we're definitely looking forward to it and we look forward to all the previews and sneak peeks as things unfold. I definitely look forward to to speaking in more detail. Apologize For coy about no it's totally cool as I say they'll be. There's lots of cool stuff to be revealed on both Katie presents and keep Baker Dot Com and and so for those who don't know K B presents is on twitter and facebook and the you've been revealing art over the past several weeks and there's a lot of pictures. I'm very excited about <hes> just got a picture in <hes> and and I say this just because hey you know I'll just say we have a very bad asked. Medusa said that if you haven't seen yet go check it out in a war for destroyed possibly named rose is is named rose head and say part of the point of that druids. That is my character from the campaign plane ride. There's a reason it's in the book and I think one of the coolest ones that I saw was the process of Charen darn of the <unk> <hes> skyline being being drawn. I think it started with a three D.. Model and then they painted on top of it which looked amazing absolutely that's definitely something that as I said Wayne has been doing a lot of of Israeli working with these artists of finding a lot of good people and and sort of putting together <hes> I know he has a lot of things plan to reveal that really show that process because it is really interesting. Is You know <hes> <hes> most of the the major images we've been working on really have been a sort of Jerry <hes> ongoing process to <hes> you know really sort of have these images that we feel the Ol- captured the Senate so I have one last question before we close and it's an important one <hes>. Do you have a ballpark figure of what the price tag might be. It really really depends on the final <hes> the final page count okay <hes> and such so I'd I'm now when we want to say a just yet until we really see again. Wherever counting the art art I will say that it is something that again we're commissioning entirely new art and phys Chunks Yup <hes> so yes I say until I have the the final page count out to to step Outta? You know I appreciate the question sure <hes> 'CAUSE I. I only asked not because I needed to know but I know that other people don't want no and it's totally fair in like I said you know we're aiming at one hundred sixty eight hundred eighty pages and <hes> <hes> you know it's GonNa be a spectacular book but as I said that's all gonna sort of factoring to <hes> in what Kostunica Fair enough all right all right <hes> it's got you anything else now. That'll all right well. <hes> I think that just about wraps it up then. Let's keep anything else thoughts and I'm looking forward to our next episode. Yes yes so <hes> we previously promised that we were going to explore dragoon and the Goblin Lloyd's of Lebron and we aim to keep that promise with our next episode <hes> so <hes> as always thank you for listening be sure to visit our website.
Episode 215: The Torture and Murder of Shanda Sharer
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And i get a big of it and i want to but with this. You don't get that you just get like brown sugary. It tastes like how when you're eating like a bowl of hot brown sugar oatmeal maple meal. Yes that feeling. Yeah what this gives you a dot five. But i about it but i st- but still warm myself. It does not everything you need more but is brought to you by starbucks. Please sponsor remember when they message me. And they're like can we use to you. And i was like of court. And you're like oh that's nothing. We're going to get like lifetime supply of starbucks but it's fine anyway. This podcast is not about coffee. We love you anyways. Well hey everybody so how do you transition out of that. How what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna bring you way down. Bring you down down down down down down down day. We are covering a case that has been sitting in my research folder for weeks and weeks. Oh no months and months and months and every single week. I say i'm going to do it and like doing it. And i'm like nope can't do. It is just one of those. That i know i wanted to cover. But who boy. Yeah it's difficult. it's a hard one. I think you and i also realized that researching at night is just not possible anymore. Not because you'll have this beautiful glorious day filled with like family and fun you'll just be like. Oh it's something about nighttime. I can't enjoy researching something that dark and it's it's weird because i used to be fine doing that. I don't know what shifted same. I much better researching in the morning meets handle. Give me all the darkness. In the morning i can handle all of which i feel like is kind of weird. Very weird i start my day off pretty fucking bleak because i'm just like but then i'm fine but then over. Yeah no. i don't feel like i get good research done so this almost tough because it was just like every time i went to do it. I was like oh this is too much. It's a lot but we should probably tell you what case it's going to be probably. I'm sure you know because you saw the title but we're going to be covering the horrific abduction torture and murder. Chande share So this is another patriotic. But it's got a little twist because the patriots fans while this was it was like neck and neck with the other case that was up on the pole for this week for them and this one was. I mean a handful of votes it lost by actually but the other case is going to be a patriot. Bonus episode. Because it's ongoing. It's a little more research. I did the more i was like. I don't know if this is like a full full episode. And i don't know if i wanna like you know kind of have it be like to be continued kind of things happening right now so you don't know when you're gonna continue at anyway. Yeah so that's definitely going to be a patriot bonus episode that. I'm going to do so patriots. You can look forward to that. And i figured because i wasn't doing that one i'll just give you your second choice being. They bloom in this one. I was already like. I wanna do it already. I'm ready. i'm here. So i wanna give you guys to books to go read on this case. Of course you're your librarian of the year. Elena erc are just so we love good book about these things. Do and these books. I feel like they're always written by like journalists. Who get all these just inside things for the courts and like the transcripts and they you know they get so much stuff that it's just like i just want you to buy their books because they deserve to be recognized for it The first one. I want you to look at is little lost angel by michael quinlan. Great book it's going to horrify you an upset you but it's well done okay. Then the other one people might know this one. It's called cruel sacrifice by aphrodite jones. Yup both of them are great. I got tons of information from them. But i also left out a lot of details that i think you should go read the books for because there's a lot of like interviews in like tons of transcripts from things and definitely go read the books. 'cause you'll get a full rounded view of these girls because when i was reading this book i think we've all kind of we've a lot of us have heard of this case. This is a big true crime case. Because because of how gruesome and grotesque awful. It is but like you don't always get the full picture of everybody involved. You kind of know that. There's four teenage girls who attacked this. By the way shannon rene share was twelve years old. She wasn't even a team. I feel like that gets forgotten. A lot is like this is a bunch of teenage girls. Yeah it's a bunch teenage girls in a literal child little twelve year old. But when you look into the backgrounds of these teenage girls the murderers who did this it tells a lot okay and i didn't know a lot of that is very sad case all around because of their background. It's really sad. Because like i actually don't know a lot about their background. Yeah i know about this case. But that's how i went into it knowing a lot about the case not a lot about the people involved say started looking into it. I was like whoa now mentally. You guys make your own decisions on like nature. Nurture all that good stuff. We've been so lately. It just seems like a lot of cases lately have had like a lot of conflicting things with that. Yeah so this case takes place in It actually the actual murder took place in madison. Indiana noca- This was on january. Eleventh nineteen ninety two and basically this whole thing began as a love triangle of sorts between shanta cher. Who is twelve years. Old melinda loveless who is sixteen and amanda hebron who was fifteen. It was kind of one it when you look at it on the surface. You're like okay. This is what happens in high school. Eight people get jealous that there. Because everybody's dating everybody. It's always like run into your ex girlfriend or boyfriend But this is just one that when you look at it you're like yep that's normal and then it starts getting deeper and deeper and it gets your like something's wrong with the people involved here right especially melinda loveless. You're like oh yeah. That's not a normal way to behave. This is not your typical teenage high school. Like chande did not. Nobody would do anything to deserve what she got but like. This is the amount of rage that melinda loveless had for this twelve year. Old girl is truly something like when you look into her background. Which i'm going to get into right now. You can see the why. She slipped rage that that that was pretty much instilled into her birth. That's like sad. I guess it's like one of those things where you can feel bad for liking of her. That's not a murderer. Yes you feel bad for the child. She definitely didn't have a chance that is for sure So melinda loveless is a great name for her for many reasons because she murdered twelve year old. that's bliss but also sadly because. I'm pretty sure she grew up in a house. That was loveless. So it and it's horrible. I wanna like disclaim right here. That there is like child abuse involved. There's sexual assaults involved. This case has pretty much everything so just be aware of that. She was the youngest to marjorie. And larry loveless. Larry is a literal monster. He's dead now though. So don't worry He's a a demon. Like larry is a true demon Margie was only seventeen when they married and he was twenty which is fine but They had melinda's older sister. Michelle and larry molested and physically abused michelle from the time. She was an infant in infants. Larry was illiterate. He was a pervert to everyone around him including his own family. He was sex obsessed especially with his wife and he would force her to do things. she wasn't comfortable with. He demanded all the time all he would force her to have sex at all times during the day and at night like she could not say no he eventually went on to do this with other women while he was married to marjorie as well. They had their second child. Melissa and he was possessive. He was emotionally abusive to marjorie. He was a comes out later that he was sexually abusing both girls. What is wrong terrible. Eventually margie martyr. Because her name is margerie but they call her margie. Margie started having an affair with a neighbor and it was you know so now. The father's having affairs he's abusing. Everyone in the house. Marjorie is now having affairs with neighbors and sach. She's basically trying to like tell him to fuck off so none of them are taking care of the kids right. This is just them trying to one up each other and hurt each other. Nba marjorie is one thing. I think she was just put into a really terrible in this marriage and she kinda just wasn't ready to have to split her emotions between taking care of kids and taking care of herself. I think is what happened But larry is an actual demon He was also an alcoholic. He would force her force. Marjorie to engage in swinging with other couples. Oh man and then he would just force her to have sex with men in front of him. Oh my god. This is like a horror. How i had no idea. She grew up in a house like this. I had no idea how will do something to you. It's a nightmare. By the time melinda was born he was a raging alcoholic. And this is what the house was. So it's like you can see. This is what she was born into and then she's being assaulted and molested exactly now. I will say that. Melissa and michelle are the ones who did come forward and say that he. He did this to them. Melinda has never said that he did it to her. Everyone believes he did. Obviously because of track record. And what's going on but because of there was some reason that they weren't going i i think it was because she was imprisoned and she didn't at the time and she didn't wanna be part of what was going on because he did get in trouble for it eventually. Okay because he was not just sexually abusing his own children. He was sexually abusing other people. Okay and younger people so he did get in trouble for this. Not like you want him to look for that. But yes so. But i will say i just want to be clear that melinda never came out and said he did it in fact she denied it. But would that what you will okay. But she definitely wasn't treated well in this house pissed because she wasn't being sexually molested and basically melinda's older sisters sisters became her parents because her parents were so negligent. She called michelle mom a while. And apparently larry convinced them that they were actual parents. What like literally told these girls like your her parents like your her mom okay. Michelle was like. I literally thought. I was her mom like she was like. I didn't understand it. But i was like i have to take care of her. That's the psychological accent that will have on every party involved. There's every kind of abuse happening here. Lau yeah it really fuck very cycle. That is so psychologically really is he also would every every pet they would get he either kill the pet or he would let it loose and just they would never find him. I get a fucking pet. Because he enjoyed doing this. He enjoyed it. Oh my god. This is so fucked already. I mean and this is a pretty brief overview of that house and again a specially the aphrodite jones book cruel sacrifice. That really goes into detail about what happened here. Like i. if you wanna know more Now the family. So we're what's happening here is like sex obsessed terrible depravity happening in this house and then all of a sudden. The family switched to become very religious. Oh so they went the total opposite and they attended a baptist church. So there was exorcists here. There was speaking in tongues. It was one of those and they were basically shoving everyone off. That wasn't saved so you had to be saved He was like really went into this. He became like uber religious. To the point where like he was burning all their stuffed animals and books because they weren't teachings of like whatever the hell he was trying to teach them. Okay yeah and is he still abusing young women at this point. Oh of course yeah right. Yeah that makes a lot of absolutely. He would like rip their posters off the wall like they weren't allowed to have anything like no museum of was just taking religion and using that as an abuse for him. Exactly he's weaponising. This religion great so he wants burned like beloved olive melendez. He said it was a demon. Oh and she said later like imprison interview she was like i will never forget that like that was my best friend doll. And he and he didn't like the i think he said he didn't like it's is so you just like burning it. I don't like your is. Larry and i think what i read in the book was that her mom actually bought her the exact replica of that donald to try to make up for it but she was like it wasn't like that was my best friend like i spent all my time with that doll. Wow so it's just like this is what's happening in her house. When melinda was five this blew my mind when melinda was five years old they just decided she needed an exorcism. The exercised her at five. Oh my god see that's gonna make me cry and you know what how they exercised her. They put her in a motel with a fifty year old man who claimed he could do it and they left her for five hours with him. God she doesn't remember what happened during that time but she thinks she just snapped dude. I'm going to have like. I'm gonna lose my mind and i think this will this is giving insight into because when you find out what melinda does later i mean. Yeah it's monstrous and you can't even fathom how somebody would get that way. And you're like whoa. It's almost learned it along the way she definitely didn't. Here's the thing the thing the fact that she doesn't remember any thought that really says i'm not saying that anything happened because maybe it didn't but a lot of times and dramatic situations your has a way of compartmentalize. Oh for sure. And people got mad at me for like saying things like that. Because i don't have a degree but yeah but it's i've had things was generally by of compartmentalized long literally just going to say but you can speak from personal experience yet things when you can. You should exactly that can be a thing. We're not. it's not a blanket statement of like everybody does that but like dat is an absolute considering what was going on in her life so dirty real possibility that these people were not good people here. It's pretty big possible exactly. So they ended up putting their kids in graceland baptists schooling where they were beaten in school like as kids. Melinda had become really become infatuated with her father despite all of this Which can happen reality especially with abuse victims. They can turn aids. It's you just that's all you know wanted i. It's a coping mechanism. And he also and i'm sure a lot of people like at unfortunately will make maven know this themselves oftentimes abusers will like cuddle with you afterwards and like like. Try to make you feel like the load on you. Yes in the colleen. Stan case cameron did that to janice and she'd that's how she got through the abuse. She exact look forward to that part of it. They look forward to the little tiny like million of the tunnel. And i think has she was so little and she was so young that that those parts where the parts that her brain really clung onto i think with him. That's so sad. There i think he also and um i believe her sisters also went with this that melinda was also much more submissive to him. The michelle in In melissa where it so they would kind of push back on some things because they were older and they were you know they knew it wants day right here and she was so young so she was being very submissive to him which made him treat her better so she was seeing a different side to him even though she was seeing all of this other horrible stuff Eventually he he was going on this whole religious kick and then all of a sudden he was like you know. I don't want to do this anymore. So because he had stopped drinking. He made everybody in the house. Stop drinking but it was like it was like a. It wasn't like. I want to stop drinking to be a healthier person and like be a better dad and all that it was just like no. It was one of those crazy like bible burning. I have to stop drinking kind of things which doesn't work. Usually he started drinking again. He was getting tired of not being like an open pervert to the family so he was like i really like to go back to my ways of being disgusting so the entire family was excommunicated from the church while yeah eventually margie was still having tons of affairs at this point and things are just getting worse and worse more perverted at home more weird. He's sleeping in the same beds with these kids. Doing no shit. He's like peaking on neighbor kids. He's like doing things like other. It's he's a monster. Can i just like spoiler alert. This right now does he get any jail time okay. It's coming around the world. Yeah it's pretty awful but don't worry he's dead he would. He would also tell the girls about their mothers affairs to and then to make them out and then they would make them would make them call her while she was out and when she and say and make them ask her. Are you at work. And when she would when she wasn't he would be like say she lied to you because she doesn't love you she doesn't want to be here with you. Oh my gosh. I grew up being like thinking. Their mom loved them which to be honest and they but they all said it later. They were like she. She put men in front of us and he was. He was a monster in his own right and her her thing was she put men in front of us because instead of protecting them from that he made a thing exactly so these girls had nothing. They had nothing literally that nobody was taking care of them. I'm surprised they didn't like away. Try only gosh. I know eventually there was divorce but you know before divorce actually happened. There was physical fights though is obviously sexual abuse. That was weird behavior in the home. Just like any like put like blankets on all the windows so they can have light. They couldn't listen to yeah. It's just did shit. There was a time when marjorie threatened him with a knife on the front lawn in front of the girls they saw in dealt with a ton every form of abuse that you could possibly think of. Thank you just mentioned. It's yeah every form of abuse i like. I said melinda loveless is an absolute monster but she is a monster that was made it. She had a crush mayanja being a monster. In my opinion she's a monster that was made she didn't have a chance from the get guts. Almost more heartbreaking. But like you can't take that and an excuse what she did it. That's mar nurture become such a difficult thing to talk about. Because it's like you. Do you feel bad for the kid you that for the kiki. How can you not. There has to be in that environment right but then you know people go through because arable shish just going to say they don't do that i think it so it has to be a little bit of nurture along with nature a little with it because it's like you have to have that in you a little bit because unfortunately people are abused all the time like any time. It is a huge part of society but there are people. It's like you get two choices. You can You can keep on keeping on or you can just totally. Yes us the other side. It's true and i think it's it's who you are that determines where you go and you know. I do think a lot of the time like your support system says like helps her sharing the way. Because i think they're even for me like i didn't experience nearly any thought that's horrifying but i had you guys so quickly you have support. Yeah i think i don't. It doesn't sound like she had anybody know. It doesn't really like she. She had a lot of friends she had a lot of. You know she had cousins and stuff. But i think it was. Just i just don't think she added. I think it was. Just her whole life was built in that there was no one checking up on her to make sure that she did the right thing but again doing having not as your childhood does not excuse you to to do. The shit she did is just unthinkable. Right it's unthinkable whole this case made until we get to the end to because when we talk about who melinda is today it confuses you even more. It's it's because your brain does develop more. It does so. Yeah okay so in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. There was a warrant out for Larry loveless just to give you a little update and it was charging him with three counts of rape. Six counts of sodomy in two counts of sexual battery. All of these were against children according to the associated press And the so. The affidavit said that he had forced several young girls into various sex acts from nineteen sixty eight to nine thousand nine hundred eighty nine when he lived in new albany albany deanna. Oh okay Now unfortunately because of the statute of limitations all counts. Were dropped so there were. He was only charged with one count of sexual battery so obviously he got off. And you're like fuck that guy. But then he died december fifteenth nineteen ninety eight because he got hit by a bus. Okay so i was literally at. I hate to say like to brutal death but like if anybody deserves to be run over by a fucking bus. He was a monster while he was an absolute monster. I'm a firm believer absolutely nothing of value to society and all he did was damage around him. So i that's all. I will say about the old man you just actually like. I have like a tightness in my chest right now. Well now coming back to you. Know melinda loveless. 'cause i just wanted to give you that little update that like he did kind of get a little bit of karma. Melinda did have trouble with the divorce when her parents divorced because again. She's much more infatuated with her father than the other two are And she just had a very big attachment to him that she wanted to please him. She wanted him there all the time and now he wasn't going to be there all the time so both of her parents did remarry and her stepfather. Who married marjorie was named michael hugh seemingly a very good guy any very good stepfather. He wanted to create a normal environment for her and her sister. I like so wasn't expecting. No that's i didn't either. You were like and her stepfather fuck in. That's the thing. So she did have someone who came in in really wanted to help when i just said so. She did have something good to have somebody. So it's like but she would not allow it rush. She didn't want anything to do with it. he even came to her and told her he's your father. I can be your best friend like he was like. I just want to help you. Like i just wanna make everything better sobbing and the dow. But she hated him. Because she was so brainwashed. By larry that she would not accept this man as a good man now. She started having a ton of emotional issues. That are coming forward now. Obviously she likely had them all along with what was going on. She was getting becoming a teenager. They're starting to show themselves in different ways Because of the issues with her father and her attachment and seeming seeming in bandon by him. Yeah that's going to make her start focusing a lot on replacing that affection so she's focusing a lot on boys and she's using boys and those kinds of relationships to fill that void and she was beautiful. Melinda loveless was beautiful. She could attract anyone. She wanted she. She did okay but she started discovering that like yeah boys are like temporarily taken care of this like pain that i'm feeling or whatever i'm going through. But then she started realizing. I like girls moore. Okay thanks so. She decided that she was bisexual. And this is when she met. Amanda amanda was fifteen years old because amanda guests knew her cousin. That's how they met. Sure amanda when she met melinda was infatuated a while fatuous with her as soon as she saw because again melinda's is beautiful. Melinda intern became obsessed with amanda right. This was her first. I think it was both of their. I like female relationship like bisexual or lesbian. Because i believe that amanda was like was gay and melinda was considered herself bisexual. Can either one of them had actually been with a girl before that shirt so this is all very new. This is all very exciting. They are sixteen fifteen to add onto when everything is more intense and exciting and you know it just. They invested a lot of feelings and a lot of intense energy. It's like a double whammy. Because like when you're like little in it's your first relationship. That's like one ami 'cause like usually it doesn't work out of course and then number two melinda has gone through all of this like emotional trauma sir. She's way more emotionally. Invested in this exact. It is like asking for a huge exactly. And it's in there in indiana in the early nineties. Gay relationships are not exactly even think. This is all fucking triple exactly. So it's like there's a lot there's a lot on this. There's a lot so they really clung to each other very quickly Unfortunately with everything and going on at home and you know melinda's entire life up to this point. Melinda was also very volatile in very violent as a human being. That was how she reacted. The things was violence anger and emotional outbursts so she kind of started abusing. Amanda no Especially emotionally. she would lash out at her in a moment's notice and she would take out her frustrations on her and she would also force her which this tells you a lot into sexual situations a lot where a man said that she would sometimes be like. I don't want to and melinda was like well you have to. And she was like in a lot of times afterwards. I did not like that. Like i didn't want to do that. And she was like. She was very obsessed with it and it just became too much of a focus and she. It made amanda uncomfortable. Yeah which obviously you look at her background. She thought yeah. That's very learned behavior now again at this point in time. Melinda was fifteen when she met amanda shows She was sixteen when the When she murdered. Shanna share She's very sexually active at this point. But she's also reverting into a time in her life where she's basically a child again emotionally so she's acting out in this very adult way but she's also becoming which we've seen this before i think when people get stunted in a certain place and their childhood yup they try to revert back into that. She was always watching. Her stepfather. said that this really bothered him because he said she was fifteen years old and she's always watching like kids programs on tv like cartoons. She would play with kids toys. Fifteen and she knew nothing of the outside world like she wouldn't watch the news. She never read news. She didn't wanna talk about anything like she. He said i believe he said like she barely knew who george bush was. Why if you and especially during that time like wow yeah. And he's basically said everything relevant to the outside world that wasn't kid in like very below her age group. She was not interested in which is interesting. That that to me looks like there's a lot of damaged. Oh absolutely she was also wetting. The bed at fifteen still is like a huge indicator of secretary trauma. She was traumatized like she's in a traumatized state. She's just living life in a traumatized state at is really sad. Yeah in the more. She rebelled against her new stepfather and lashed. Out at amanda. She also started changing who she was hanging out with and she was starting to hang out with the punk crowd or puckers thing and she started dressing more like madonna and like the nineties. Pretty which is bad ass but like she. This is like she's becoming a little more like edgy. And she's she staying out she's drinking. She's partying now. She's teenage melinda is really going for it at this point and now she's starting to get into trouble so this morning. I realized that i was out of one of the prescriptions. I need and i was like. Are you literally kidding me. I have to go to the pharmacy. I would rather just stay in bed. 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Yeah and she was very into fashion so excited to be able to experiment a bit like fashion at that point was like fun and she wanted to show off for style so she didn't want wear uniform anymore all nineties fashion is well. It really was and it still where it's at exactly. So she was. She was nervous for public school but she was also very excited for that part now. Apparently she was a great kid. A great catch. Jackie said she had an older sister named page. Who was like kind of a troublemaker. Why child so. She said she was like the complete opposite. She was you know she never got in trouble. She had great grades. She was a cheerleader. She played softball. She did gymnastics. I think she played basketball. Like she's very well. Rounded would try anything any after school activities. She would do. She loved doing typical teen stuff. Like having sleepovers going to the mall tomboys like just anything. You like hair makeup by again. The early nineties so hair was like that really teased huge grunge tear and when that's lots of heavy makeup with like crazy dayglo colours and like you look at the pictures and you're like she was such. She was beautiful. I mean beautiful. You were just like the woman you would have become really sucks hsien in like i said she ended had a sister page who is actually a nurse at the time and shanta wanted to be a nurse too and she grew up like her sister she did look a bit older than twelve. I was gonna say so. She she also to dress. Older people confused her for older Once she went to public school when she had transitioned in this new school where you know. Melinda is amanda as her grades. Begin to slip okay. Because she immediately started focusing on the social aspect that she wasn't having those other private schools. Yeah she didn't wanna do sports anymore. She didn't really focus on her grades. She was just wanted to hang out with cool kids and like hang with boys. Hang out with girls because the phone. This is an entirely new world for cult. It's literally culture show. It really is so she just kind of just was like overwhelmed by it. Fell into it now. Amanda noticed her right away but amanda still dating melinda. Yes oh this pissed melinda off real quick immensely by this time. Melinda's hold on. Amanda was stronger than can even be expressed. I mean they were in in a scary relationship. At this point. She was very possessive and very obsessed with her and when it looked like she was taking notice of the new girl she was going to make sure to stop that show right away. This was not going to happen so she started bullying chande immediately. Oh because that makes a lot of sense exactly you would think that she would be like. Hey amanda stop looking at another girl like maybe focus on that. yeah in. What are you doing bullying her. She just came to school like she didn't do anything so she would literally comment on her. Looks like right in front of her like in front of people call her ugly which she was not she was not she would literally like comment. Do things that like. I remember in like junior high. It was always like of like boobs or something like flat. Chester land huge boobs. So that's what they would do to her and she would call her. Ugly in front of everybody was just like she would bully her in the lunchroom. She just went hard at chande immediately would would show so much insecurity now Despite all of this amanda chande did meet eventually started to become close. Okay be so they started to like each other okay. They immediately struck up a bond And melinda was kind of powerless to stop this even though she put everything she could into it. And when you say like each other you mean like on a romantic love. Yeah no romantic level. They were definitely they were. They had like a very close friendship when they first started and then they began to romantic feelings for each other. Okay and it was just one of those things that melinda at this point was kind of like treating a mandalay shit and so manned. I was already like looking elsewhere. You know it was like she was like. Oh this is what it can be like this now. Unfortunately when you look at it it's this whole thing is just like not a good situation because it's like amanda definitely was playing these two girls and she was enjoying having the attention of both of them by no means could she ever najran that. It would go the way when you anywhere near the way it went. But it's like you look back and it's like you know at sixteen year thinking like cool. I have attention of like two people that i like to pretty girl. Dream at six stanley. So you know but. Linda tried to stop it. That's for sure i. She tried to become friends with chande and she thought this would kind of make it weirder for her and amanda to start something because she was like i'm gonna buddy up to her and be like a like amount as my girlfriend like you can't do this. You can't do this to me. Were friends you know code. Exactly there was a lot of notes that went back and forth notes. And if you look at I think it is in the cruel sacrifice book. there's all of them are in there But i'll tell you a couple of them here at one point melinda wrote Wrote this to chande. She wrote chande. Don't be mad at me please. I wanna be your friend. I just don't like when you speak to amanda. When i'm not there i mean why can't we all three befriends you act as if you've you've got something going with her. Amanda are going together and she loves me. And i love her. She only wants to be friends with you. You need to accept that. Chande amerian mandatory me. Were going through bad times. Will if you need someone to talk to. You can always talk to me. I don't want you sneaking behind my back. Why don't you speak to amanda when she's with me. You need to find a boyfriend because amandas mine you can't even you can even ask her. Please talk to both of us or you can. Forget about amanda. You mean. amanda need to have a talk together and get the squared away. Then we could all be friends. Sorry i'm writing so sloppy. Can you meet us at lunch. Your friend mel of so. That's her trying to like. Oh my god channa you. I think you just have the wrong idea here but friend and it's like and it's not like oh hey like it would make if she was just like. Hey i'm dating. Amanda and i'm feeling like you're cadillac stepping into my territory here. That's fine but she's like you're not allowed to speak to her. Yeah that's like that's fox's kid unit so you can only speak to. Both of those of us are none of us. Yup pets it and yeah ok well. Amanda chande did not stop talking to each other as this was not going to be the thing that stop them. Melinda got more more matt like. Why don't you just break up with amanda that and so here's a note that melinda wrote to amanda amanda. Why did you write her. Fucking name on your folder. It hurts so much when i saw it. I didn't think you would put her ugly name on your folder. And you wrote it. You must have liked her enough to write her name. Why will i'm gone melinda. Ps just tell me you like her once. Because i know see that's kinda sad because she's like it's a. It's like one of those because when you look at it without knowing anything else you're sitting there being like well that's land dot com on allegations but then you see what happens and you're like well. That's not normal just always making a lot of noise It seemed like amanda was into both of these girls. she liked them both. She had been with melinda for almost a year before. Amanda came into the picture on and off and there is a degree of her being afraid of melinda. I sure like. I know that it's not okay to play both sides of it there is. There's a lot involved this black and white. This happened so this is why this is what happened. You know it's there. There's all these things of going. Yeah it's not okay to play these girls. That's not cool to do right. But you are right. She was definitely scared of melinda. There's law melinda was capable of. Yeah there's a lot of your area. Exactly and i think this was one of those things that in amanda shoes. Yes she was she doing the right thing. No no but i think she was fifteen years old. She liked both these pretty girls. Yeah and she couldn't decide right and she didn't think it was gonna go that far and you're not thinking at sixteen that you're really hurting people. She's she's sixteen melendez. Fifteen twelve shanez twelve at this point. Melinda and amanda are both fifteen. Okay okay okay. Then melinda turns sixteen before amanda okay. So she's like a little older okay. Moncia meanwhile both of these girls shannon melinda infatuated with amanda so. It's just intense feelings. Amanda so they took this out on each other instead of turning to amanda and being like you gotta make a decision here and which often happens often it gets taken out on the other person when it really should be focused on someone else. Yeah melinda noticed that. Amanda started paying more and more attention to chande and was neglecting her relationship with her. And she's getting more and more pissed because now she's really starting to drift over to shanta right so then a school dance happened. Oh no and melinda wrote to chande chande. Hey girl what's up. i'm in study hall. Being real board. Amanda was outside my door so i played it off and got something to drink dumb ass teacher. These are just like so. These notes are so relatable all wrote wrote those well. Have you decided if you're going to attend the dance. I'm not. I'll probably end up at the mo- going to the mall and see a fucking lame movie or something. Will i've bored you enough saucy later babe. Love ya melinda. Now that's her toned to lie about it and then she writes. One to amanda amanda. I love my hair. Feel so much better. I really don't want you to go to the dance. But if you really have to go i just wanna go with you. I don't want you to go without me. We can talk about it friday at lunchtime. I don't really wanna wait until friday. So i might go out with someone else and then have her dropped me off at hazelwood at a certain time. Well talk to you later. Love belinda. so she's basically for chande she's like. I'm not going to the dance. I don't have any plans to go to the dance. And then man she's like i don't i'm not necessarily going but if you're going you are taking me right and that's it now apparently amanda shandong onto the dance together moreau role. Melinda showed up honey. She lost her shit and she chased chande around the dance threatening to hurt her Where where are the chaperones. Yeah that's no good. What not a good reaction In after this is when shit like rocketed into the stratosphere because this is when melinda in shonda began having legit fights in school like this window was like attacking her physically. They were constantly feuding constantly at each other's throats. Melinda was saying constantly that she just wanted to beat the shit out of chande talking about killing her saying i want her dead. Like this was multiple people were like. Oh yeah she talked about it all the time but at that point when you're sixteen in your friends like i'm gonna kill her gonna kill her so there was also a lot of behind the scenes. Hap- things happening with these girls like lots of you know love triangles in lots of parents. Getting the about finding out that this one's talking to this one and both of them were talking to other people at different times it just it was a messy messy messy thing. The parents kind of new. We're finding things like letters y'all in these notes and they weren't under they were trying to confront these kids but they were not getting the whole story. Of course you know. I forbid you to talk to this one. I forbid you to talk to your. You're you're not doing that exactly. It was just it was felt lost. Fuck it really was the way you just that was. The most boston was literally said. Cluster a cluster. Fuck so melinda and amanda where eventually forbidden from seeing each other from their parents melinda and amanda okay okay and they weren't allowed to speak to each other but they still snuck communication. Obviously there was another girl named kari. That was involved. That was actually in love with melinda at one point and she was fighting amanda for her. It was like bunker which we should have just gone that way. Yeah it just a melinda. Keri got together they should not have been by it was bonkers but meanwhile all the while melinda is still obsessed with amanda no matter what's going on she's trying to get this girl that's like obsessed melinda trying to get this girl. Carrie who's in love with her to beat amanda up for her then. She still obsessed with amanda and still wants to be with her. So it's like she's inflicting actual violence upon her. But still being like. I want to be with you though. And it's like no you can't send people to beat the shit out of me and then wanna be with me. Melinda did not know what she wanted and not know how to form a healthy to somebody. Nobody knew what they wanted here. No and they all needed to do with sit down for a second play the sims or something like just take it down notch. It's like i'm thirty five. I don't. I've never had this much drama in my life but so manned again playing both sides it's ugly everywhere you look. Yeah now after. The kerry fight with amanda. Because eventually they did get into a fight at melinda's behest and after that manda was like i'm good. I think i'm gonna take my business over to sharah over here. Because she was she was like. You're you're becoming a lot. And like i don't know if i can deal with. Yeah i think was like the big like so on october. Twenty four th. They had amanda chande had like their. I like really awesome full date night together. Where they went to like this harvest homecoming festival. They went to a haunted house with amandus parents And they had a sleepover at her house that night like it was big like the whole night with like a festival and everything was very wholesome like kind of so sad. Because you do you remember like going on and and yet someone that you just saw best yes. That was the best feeling in high school. I mean obviously like still now but like nobody was such a bigger thing back then and it was so wholesome at that time zone. Like my heart. Her and there was with her parents like amend his parents were involved with the whole thing so So it was getting really serious after that like after that date. That's when they were like really into each other. It's just like that was it. Because there's always that one that you're wearing loved god. I remember that shit. Well melinda found out about this state obvious and she told this is when she told a friend she was like. I'm going to kill chande. Like she's gonna die in god so she also told her friend her cousin crystal that she wanted to this. She was the one that she told gonna kill. Chande and crystal encouraged the idea at the time because again crystals also a teenager. So like they're all. I think they're all this. Yeah fucker up. You know like yeah. They're not thinking actually like yeah. I mean but still like let's calm down. Yeah it's insane and you can read some stuff like that crystal said about it in the books but like she was based in she basically in the book like crystal was like you know like she tried to make her stop and she wouldn't stop seeing. Amanda all okay shit ever and it's like guys that's not warranted. We just look around everyone. I'm like what did what did you all grow up in like. Your first reaction is like. Let's violently hurt this person instead of being like. Maybe this isn't the right thing to do. You remember the girls like that in high school. I remember like girl glick. It sounds silly but like girl fights in high school. Were some of the most things i've ever witnessed in my because it's like where does that come from like damn in high school. You see some shit you to high school is a is a battlefield man So now there are there. You know there's more fights happening with melinda and chande dr constantly at this point and jackie chan's mom said this was when shanto was starting to change like she was. She was seeing her as like really stressed. She was kind of pulling into eared. She seemed very. It was just a lot on her. she's twelve. I know that we forget. She is not an ear. Soldiers not even thirteen and thirteen would still be like. Oh my school like junior high in high school where once i think it was all one big school This is when amanda chande were really getting more and more serious. Amanda was completely ignoring melinda. Now which is not good not what us down for shonda at this point gave amanda ring that she wore all the time so it was like they were like they were doing. They were locked in after finding some very explicit letters between the girls and Chande denying that she was in a physical relationship with amanda. Her parents decided that they wanted to actually put her back in private school. Yeah because i was wondering if that was something that was going to happen because not only were they finding explicit letters and shannon wind to them about it but there are also finding letters from amanda saying. Like melinda's gonna kill you because of the okay. We can see that something. We don't like this on the the experience as a whole because like you said even when she first started like her grades were slipping. She didn't have the same interests she used to. So they're like this was a mistake like this was a grand experiment that did not that went awry. so let's let's reverse. let's reverse this. So they put her in a private school called our lady of perpetual help which i was like what. What a school name. Wow our lady of perpetual help. So that's where she went and it was basically to take her out of this. Melinda amanda situation. They were like we got while here. Just use them. 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She's back shannon bat and better than ever but amanda in her. Were starting to talk secretly again. How so you just figured it out like phone calls shirts. Yeah i don't know why just suck and you're probably you're too young to like cell phones but like you figure you how to figure it out and if you'd like several lines in your house like if you happen to have like an upstairs phone line you know that like you would call on that or someone else would call and there was call waiting that you could flip the other person onto the call so you didn't have to call that it was. You could be real sneaky lost. Maybe it'd be real sneaky. We get a friend to call that person for you and then they could like three way. Call you and pull you into the line. I remember that remember. That caught the. Okay yeah but it was on a land line not a cell phone. Just say so. They were so they're talking now. There's another school dance happening. They tried to sneak chande into the school dance on the public school but she wasn't allowed in because she was not a student so melendez at the dance sees all this going down and she flips out in because shand is no longer at school right now so she thought she was over the thing so now she sees the amanda still into this girl so she demands. Amanda tell chande that she doesn't love her and that she didn't want her and she did. Amanda told her in front of the entire thing. Like i don't want you. I don't love you even though she was trying to sneak into the dance. Okay what does not. Then melinda explicitly told her at the stance. If you talk to them and again i will fucking kill you like in front of a bunch of people. I need to know where the teachers are. As dan like higher the schwere on our the adults in this situation. I do not know not doing it literally. Seems like chande was the only one like connected to an adult right a really i mean i guess i'm manda because her parents were date exactly now after. This amanda sent a letter to shanta explaining why she did that. And she said you're endanger if we keep dating and she was like an. I don't wanna put you in danger. Melinda scary this is insane. She was basically like girls. Wanna beat the shit out of you. And i'm trying to protect you by not pretend by pretending that i don't wanna be with you basically so now. This is getting like shakespearean. Like romeo and juliet like shit is getting very intent. Houses are against each very intense for people with not even learner's permits at this point like everybody take a step back. This is a lot now. Melinda had really made herself at school. She was making herself queen. Bee at this point she because people are rolling terrified error but people also fond over. Because you i mean. Girls wanted to be her girls and boys wanted to be with her. It became a thing where people literally were worshipping her. I mean people called her a goddess in that school actually. They were literally like quotes from students. That were like she was flawless. She was a goddess. Like there is nothing to say that a flaw about her people fell at her feet in and she was loving it. 'cause it's we'll because also look at her. She doesn't have that at home. So this is her kim. Yeah this is her territory. She has probably been raised with the idea of especially from her dad. That like she's beautiful You that your main thing. And she's watched other people manipulate people with their looks and she again she's beautiful. That's what like later. The police say it and we'll mentioned later said that not that but they not like oh she was they were saying like she was trying to use her looks against us in an interview. Qazi sixteen year old like. She was trying to seduce the police. Why yeah they were like. You could tell. She's just used to using that face like that's she's used to using it and getting what she wants and she thought she could get out of this right. It's truly outrageous now. We got to bring in the next person into this thing because now we i'm sorry what so not in this love triangle. Sorry so we have. We've met melinda we've met amanda we've met chande yes now melinda's queen bee. She's talking to amanda. But an american men are still secretly talking even though amanda said like people on hurt exactly but they're still secretly talking k. Now we gotta bring in seventeen year old. Laurie tackett she's one of the murders. Yes so we're gonna talk about three more girls here. Laurie tackett preppy antoni lawrence. Tony lawrenson hopi are both fifteen years old and laurie. Tackett is seventeen. Those are those along with melinda. Are the four girls who murdered shamsher. Okay now laurie. Tackett is real scary. She is seventeen real scary. Yeah she seventeen so. She came from madison She didn't go to school with them because she was in another town. But whenever their group they started like becoming one group through the punk scene. And you meet other kids. Yeah like they went to shows a lot and they would see each other. So that's when they started to know each other. That's melinda was part of that group so she they knew each other a little bit she. Laurie hated her family. And she was also into the colts she also felt accepted by the. You know this new punk scene. Choose becoming part of in this new place like new albany because she was also bisexual and again. Early nineties indiana. She was not feeling very accepted. No on top of that. She grew up in a very religious households I i almost hesitate to call these places religious households. I think they're just psychotic. Households like this is not what religion is supposed to be right. What this is. Because i always feel like when i say religious household is like this isn't just like a catholic health house older like knowing you're like we else religion or you know this is crazy. This is it's like i said in the beginning. This is weaponising. this is jerry much weaponising religion. This is sick. People who are using religion to hurt their kids basically and again. It was the same kind of thing speaking in tongues the healing stuff. The lake crazy sermons like all that and she grew up being told that she was going to burn hellfire for literally every single thing. She did so. Her home was even a place where medicine was for centers so when she was sick as a child she couldn't have medicine. 'cause that's for centers one night when she was fourteen. Her mother caught her putting on a pair of jeans. She wasn't allowed to wear jeans or pants of any kind and when she put on her mother beat the shit out of her chased her around the house. She was fourteen and tried to strangle her. What thought she got away from her own mother and ran to the neighbors for help and you know a child welfare services. There was a whole thing with that which you can still like read about but like it was a whole thing but as a result she said her goal was to be the exact opposite of her mother so she was like. I wanted to be evil to spite her. Yeah so again. Another person who has been raised to be a chance evil basically. Because when you see. Laurie tackett melinda. Loveless are two very terrifying people. Yeah very very terrifying. But they were both definitely raised. The most horrific homes of i keep saying doesn't have a chance in that feels wrong. So like the odds. Were stacked against them. You always feel like you always have a choice. Yeah i always feel about you and it's like but when these odds were definitely against acting it for sure. She fell into that punk crowd because she was trying to rebel against her parents face and they were forcing more and more religion on her. The more and more she rebelled and did they know that she was because you did you say she was bisexual ended. They like catch onto that. I think they are starting to see because she was she was hanging out with more girls. She was dressing a little more masculine. She cut her hair short in the nineties. Everybody thought if you had a short haircut your lesbian gay But so they were basically you know trying to exercise her foretelling telling her she's going to hell. She was extremely depressed at this point. Har- and clearly going through it without any help because she wasn't allowed to go to therapy or anything like that. Her parents refused to allow her any kind of help at all like she couldn't talk to friends. She couldn't talk to a therapist not even going to a doctor. If they don't believe in medicine yes she's not. She wasn't allowed to go to a doctor so they're just using religion and obviously that didn't help anything so her friend said that she was by the time she was like becoming a teenager and like seventeen and stuff she was very withdrawn very angry and very violent. Her grades were atrocious. She was miserable and she was. Also scaring the shit out of everybody around her because she was violent and also just like acting strange like she would do things to scare people like hours like she tried to slit. Someone's wrists set a party in front of a bunch of people. Oh she would also talk about sacrificing animals and killing people a lot. She loved to talk about like how she just thought she was destined to murder someone because she wanted to see what it would be like. Okay yes she is. Deeply deeply deeply disturbed deeply one evening. She attempted to cut in suck the blood from her friends girlfriends arm and there was a giant fight about that. Obviously because it was not a consensual thing she literally tried to cut her and just like forcibly suck the blood out of her arm because she would cut herself in sucker on blood and be like i love the taste of blood and like would cut other people in like suck their blood This is when she was kind of ousted from that group after she pulled that stunt is when she started hanging out with melinda more and more because that group was like you can go over there that my brain is still trying to comprehend mode. I don't think you ever will and that's okay. I don't know if i should. That's that's okay so. Laurie was also very close to a girl named hope rookie and she was actually. She actually treated hope as a friend and kind of as a little sister. She actually like wasn't terrible. It seems like there was like an ounce of her. that was. She needed something. Yeah she needed it. So maybe the hope was providing. I'm not really sure. But hope was best friends with a girl named tony lawrence and again they were both fifteen or so many people involved hope was pretty standard when it comes to hope home life. There's not a lot about their home life. I don't think any of them had amazing. Leave it to beaver childhoods but nothing like lori and melinda. She didn't have any significant traumatic experiences. That are reported at least She did well in school. She had friends was generally a happy. Kid tony was an okay student but not in not somebody who got in trouble or anything like that. Pretty average Neither one of them got in trouble in. Tony had friends but was very quiet and very shy. She was however going through some personal trauma at the time. Tony was not hope because she had been sexually assaulted by a boy. Oh outside of her family and she was severely depressed. Yeah after the. She kind of rebelled a bit in response to that trauma as often happen so tony hope and laurie were friends and they went to one school in madison right and then melinda and laurie had become friends through that punk scene with those three girl. Exactly so melinda's friendly with laurie but she doesn't really know. Hope tony at this point. Okay did so. Yeah so that it's hard. It's like so many people to groups. But i think you did a good job that makes sense to me yes so as a reminder lori was seventeen melinda was at this point and tony and hope are fifteen and chande is twelve on january tenth lori and melinda invited tony and hope to go to a rock concert in louisville which was like fifty miles away. They did normal things that night because this is when they were first meeting melinda and they all like each other they did normal things. They got some fast food. They were picking up stuff for the concert and the car ride. They're all of them lied to their parents about it. That none of them knew they were going to louisville then on the way back because they were gonna stop in new albany really quick to get something chair. Laurie asked tony. Do you know what the plan is. Tonight she was like well. Yeah we're going to the rock concert and she was like well. Yeah we're going to do that but she was like we're also going to kill a little girl. That's how she said it. We're gonna kill a little girl. Because that's what shanna was. Yeah so you will see throughout this that tony is very much a not active member of this in any way shall she's terrified and basically there for the ride i'm gonna like. Oh wow oh. Hofu helps a couple of times. So she's not she's involved add. She doesn't go full on and she doesn't. Do you know as much as laurie and melinda but she has announced. Tony did not help. She did not put her hands in this So melinda and laurie to them that this chande girl was stealing melinda's girlfriend amanda and that they had had enough in that she needed to die and this was going to happen so melinda even showed them. The knife was in her purse and giddily said this is the knife. I'm gonna use so they plan to go to shenda's father's home where she was for the weekend Laurean hope went up to her to the home. They knocked on the door. She doesn't know who lori and hope are. Yeah so they knock on the door in. Shantou comes to the door with their life. We're lori and hope. Were friends with amanda. An amanda really wants you to come out and like we're going to bring you to her so she said we want. She wears amanda and she was like well. She wants us to meet her. At the witch's castle. Which i'll explain what the witch's castle is after so chande was like. Yeah like can you guys come back around midnight because my dad isn't gonna let me out so her father like heard part of this and was like who are these girls and shannon was like. Oh friend's dad and later. Her dad was like i knew they weren't her friends because they asked to shanta home when she answered the door like i knew they didn't know her. Yeah so he was already like when she came back in was like. You're not going out with them. Like just the i i can't so they left so she was like comeback like i'll sneak out so they left in i. They went to the concert and louisville because they were like. We have a few hours and hope. And tony apparently only stayed in the show for like a little bit. They went back out into the car. They ended up meeting guys like making them. You should left with them. I think tony at one point joked with take me with you. Take her with. Tony randomly told one of them. The two girls were were with are planning to kill someone tonight. What what the fuck. Yeah so after. What does one say to the. I have no idea to that. Nine one one. I'd be like what you want to talk to police. I was so after a few hours at the concert. They come back is not. This is unreal. Oh it's truly unreal. It's truly unreal. So they come back to the car. They drive back to shandong's house past midnight at this point in these. Did the same thing where tony melinda waited in the car and they basically were luring her out to see. Amanda melinda was hiding in the car covered by a blanket because if share shanna got in the car and samba linda. She would run you way like they knew that. So you know hope. And laurie went and got chanda. Hope even went up to shenda's room with her to get an outfit like helped her pick out and to see manda stolen. Hope knew what was going to happen here. Yeah and did. I'm sorry it was tony. That didn't play handed. Any down only just was in the car so they bring santa back into the car. They put her in the middle seat of course in the front stop. And i'm like actually. Oh it's going to get really. This is horrific guys now. It's going to get really bad so chande got in the car. They start driving in suddenly melinda leaps up from the back and holds a knife to shanta throw. This is an absolute mentioned. Says surprise. But you weren't expecting to see me now. Obviously shanta was terrified immediately started screaming and sobbing telling them like. Please bring me back home. Beg telling her like. I won't see amanda anymore. Like please. Just stop like begging her and she melinda kept telling her she had told she said. I've told amanda what i was going to do that. I was going to kill. You and amanda wanted me to do this. What the fall. Yeah this girl evil so they brought her to witches castle. Now it's a place in utica and it's like very heavily dense forested area and it's like the whole witches cats castle thing is. It's like this little stone building like a ruins of a building and the legend says that this is where a coven of witches once lived. And there's of course this tale about the residents burning the hometown and now it's cursed and all that fun stuff and it's also just reported to as mistletoe falls because mistletoe groves heavily around there but kids use it as a spooky hideout. It's just like a local thing. Yeah they inferred this garlic involved in the occult and showing people use it for that kind of stuff like they're they're always finding like quote unquote satanic worship him on it and stuff So yeah so they lori and melinda dragged chande out of the car. They brought her to the dungeon in this place which is basically. It's not a dungeon. That's laurie called it. It's just like an altar area. The suits like an outside And they bound her wrists and ankles with rope. They threatened her. They hit her several times. Hope taunted her with a knife and made her take off all her jewelry including a mickey mouse. Watch that she had up to. She's twelve years old. They also told her they also let are like shirt on fire for light. And then laurie turn to shannon said. That's going to be you soon. Chande stop no She was severely beaten. She was made to strip down to only her underwear by melinda. Laurie tony and hope. Eventually we're just in the car. Tony never came out of the car but hope went back into the car. Tony said she watched as they both helped held shannon's arms and melinda attempted to slit shenda's throat with a knife but the knife was too dull melinda of used her foot to try to cut her like literally stand on the knife to try to make. It goes through but it was that dull at this point. Hope got out of the car in according to her. She said she was trying to grab shanteau away from them. No no tony said. From her vantage point she was holding chande for them. If you're trying to get poor shanta away from these girls you would've been involved in this in the way and you know what fuck tony for. Not trying to do something either. Exactly exactly i get your scared. Whatever but like you probably could've stopped the what do you do like. I like in tekken. You get in that car and they say we're going to kill a little girl tonight. I'd be like drop me off right here. That'd be like like you know like she had every opportunity like you said like. She told somebody at the concert. I'm sure there's probably fucking payphone at the concert. well that's the other thing lori and melinda were in the concert you could have gotten away. Were outside run calling. I know there was cab. Call the police. Yeah they are really going through this. Being a good person exactly a leader. It could have been stopped. Because do i that. When shit was going on that she was probably fucking terrence. Doesn't wanna be jealous thinking she's going to be killed when they were showing what they could do. Right okay but every opportunity before that like there was many times where this could have been stopped. And that's what makes me really angry. I don't even think we pointed to the fact. These girls were just jamming knowing. What's gonna happen. Yeah oh yeah. Oh yeah so. I mean this is going to get worse. So it's just awful so the so they couldn't get so hope tried to help them hold her down. Tony said when hope came back in the car she was why helping them in hope was like. I was trying to help chande so either so then. Laurie sat on chande stomach. And melinda shadowed sat on her legs and they stabbed her repeatedly and then strangled her with a rope. They had rope yet. They had wrote this whole time. Tony said she was listening to the radio in the car and trying to drown out. Whatever no i was just thinking. What is she sitting there thinking. Laurie sets laurie. Came back and was like shannon conscious at this point. They thought they killed her so they were like she's out and then they they were like you need to help us get her in the trunk until tony was like no. I'm not doing that so they did. Get into the trunk. But tony didn't. How and apparently hope didn't help either. She'd started to cry. According to tony too late. So fucking crocodile tears exactly so. The group went to lorries house. At this point they think shannon's dead and they're just basically trying to figure out what they're gonna do so they have some soda at laurie's house and just sit and hang out and all of a sudden i hear the dog start barking outside and when we listen closely they can hear shanta screaming from the trunk now. Laurie says i've got this. Don't worry so. She goes outside and stabbed chande several more times until she stopped screaming just in the middle of the street me up and she and melinda so she comes back in covered in blood and she's like melinda we have to like go drive her somewhere in like make sure in a at one point larry was like maybe we should just drive around until she likes slowly dies back their evil. I'm like who. Yeah so she and melinda left tony and hope at laurie house. And melinda and laurie drove chande in the trunk just thinking just around meeting out yep now every once in a while they would drive and if they would hear she she several times woke up and scream and kick they would pull over and they would assault her with a tire. Iron thirty beat her in the head with it at one point. They sexually assaulted her with it. lori beat her so badly at one point with the tire that when she came back to the car she told melinda it was so cool because i could feel her head. Cave-in i like they stopped cereal times to this girl. She literally isn't no from the says later. I had never met her. You not like out girl at all. She didn't do anything wrong. chande but even if like melinda told you all this horrible stuff that she's doing you don't even know that to be true you don't know her exactly like when you take shit at face value that's your own funeral man and also. This is a twelve year old. It's seventeen what the fuck is evolving child and this isn't just like not that any kind of murderers okay. But this isn't just like we're shooting her in the head and that's it. We are torturing her viciously for hours hours the entire night like this goes on forever and they did this several times. They drove around. She would start screaming because man that little girl fought and they she would start to scream. they would pullover. They would hit her with the tire until she stopped keepdriving. This happened several. How do you. This is an absolute nightmare. You wouldn't even think this could be possible. And i'm giving as much details as my stomach can muster to get out. There's more like there's more like in the books. There's mortar is just so gut wrenching than i don't. Even i don't. I don't even think so. Eyes are welling up. Like i literally are. I can confirm that like my. It's hard it really. There's a couple of details that i'm not including in here that like i literally can't say allowed me cry. I'm just like giving you what you need. Not what you need. But i know what i think is important. Tell you to to really hammer in horrible. These girls were when they came finally came back to lorries house. Tony in hope said they were giddy and laughing about it. They were like acting like they. Just did something hilarious. They told them that every time they were like oh every time she made a sound. We just pulled over and beat her in the head with a tire in the melinda said. We must have hit her like sixty times. Here's the other thing i just. I'd like tony and hope had so much time to run away at the rock show. You were just left alone our call your mom to pick you up there alone for our and again this little girl's life could have been saved at so many points throughout this. I hope those girls think about that every fucking day that the night that they go to bed i hope you think about what a piece of shit you are for not stopping and that's the thing. Nothing excuses nothing. Nothing nothing nothing. Excuses this kind of inaction against twelve. Yet tony yudin wheeled tire. You didn't stab her. You didn't light her on fire eventually. But you didn't do anything and it's like and you had it's again. This was not a situation where you were stuck in this car and you felt like you couldn't get out you're gonna get murdered. There were several times where you were away from these two that you could have gone to get it just. It was almost like that was what was supposed to happen. Was all set. I mean none of this was supposed to happen by any means. It was almost like those little times. Like i believe like times in the world like that was being like. Do you can do something. Ops there you go. He they could. They could have saved her address. Good as later. Oh my god so believing there were like we got to leave now because now we got to figure out where to put her because they were like. We're pretty sure she's dead. I guess like didn't know hopes. Oh they go outside and they were like we hear like they they basically wanted to show them how bad she loved and tony said she refused to look so she got in the car in hopes said she said that hopes stood over her said not looking so hot now are you and then squirted windex honor y squirted windex into her wounds. And you're trying to say that you fucking helped her because they had stabbed her like where they had stabbed her in the head they. She's under head with a tire. I mean lori said that she felt her head given it's horrific and here's hope making a joke not even making a joke. Us will further assaulting her. Yeah they then drove again and they forced they told tony to go into the store and buy two liter of pepsi so she was like okay so she did. Tony went and got the two liter later pepsi. Hope told them like told while they were doing this. Hope told them of a place they could bring her hope can Herself told them and hope was also telling them while they were in there that shanna was making noises in the trunk again. And there was a guy pumping gas. I guess behind them. That tony said was like like confuse something. But i don't know if he heard exactly what they were saying if he was just like what is happening. The like dude. Like come on So they've filled the two liter bottle. They ended up like she gave the bottle to lori. she dumped it out and filled it with us home. They drove to another remote location which was told to them by hope where to go In the trunk and it was lemon road which is off of camp meeting road which is like a very remote site on this like gravelly dirt road. That's past jefferson proving ground. If anybody lives in indiana the site was just like open fields. There was like one abandoned house like a farmhouse onsite dots. It for miles like nothing. So they dragged her out of the trunk. She's still alive. They threw a red blanket on top of her. And tony said she saw her clutch blanket but she couldn't move and she couldn't speak So then melinda came to the car and asks tony to give her a lighter from the floor which tony gave her Hope is said to have poured the gasoline on chande in laurean melinda litter on fire. So tony said laurie. And melinda got into the car laughing hysterically and happy and hoped she said hope looked like she was just in another world. 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Suddenly they spot a pile of what they assumed. Were rags on the side of the road. it was literally right off the road they said and they say was this literally just off this. Yeah they said it wasn't like well track. Yeah road because they were counting so it was like a little gravelly road. The like no one really went down. But they said they thought they were like is that a mannequin. Like what is that. It was like a life. Sized jal sorts. Never a mannequin. It isn't and they stopped to make sure. Because like you said it's an dacian assume it's a mannequin and they walked up to it and they could just from the smell alone. They could understand that. This was obviously a burned body of a young girl They said she was obviously bloodied. Burned beyond any description to be honest They said her head and face and upper torso were burned to a crisp Her lower half was clearly bruised and bloodied and beaten. She was only wearing a pair of blue underwear. They called police. The police came at ten fifty five. Am the first on scene with sheriff buck shipley. And he called in indiana state police because it was so bad that they were like we need all the help we can get. How do you even like. How do you long after seeing something. Some of these officers said that they literally like broke down in tears at that scene. Like couldn't handle it. You in some of them are like twenty year veterans on the force and had seen shit. You would see that in every day every single day every day because you've been just like imagine. I don't even try not to. But i can't so they next called in trooper or detective. Steve henry and a forensic experts sergeant curtis wells. Those are the people on scene so they said obviously something was used to ignite specifically her face in her hands to obscure her identity. So that was very like sosa. Hope knew what to do exactly. They said there was a pool of blood under her in that her hands were in the position. That many fire victims hands are in they. Call it the boxer position You know where the hands will ball into fists and kinda raise like into a boxing position due to the intense heat will make the tissues strain in warp So her underwear was pulled to the side intentionally. She had been posed in a sexually. Suggestive way as well Yeah according to the investigators. They said that what by the looks of it. They said someone intentionally did this. Stage that way she was taken to the jefferson. County morgue now. Meanwhile steve her father is waking up and shannon does not in her room so he's panic as a poor man this poor family support family so he's panicking so he he starts searching calling everyone he can. He's not finding anything else so he calls. Jackie her mom and it's like we need to. What's going on. They end up calling everybody they can but nothing is happening so at one forty five in the afternoon they filed a missing persons report in clark county. Now tony and hope at this point had gone home and they're fucking panicking. So they burst into hysterics tony and hope it's too and they told way too fucking told hopes parents that they had witnessed a girl being killed. So you didn't you you end. Oh melinda and lori were at melinda's for a sleepover because they were gonna stay at. Belinda south that next night and you know Melinda's mom marjorie said that they were acting strange or at least melinda was and she said an according to multiple sources. Melinda told amanda what had happened so she called her and had her pick her up and told her and amanda said she didn't believe it because she was like. Why would i believe that. Like yeah of course. She didn't tell her like the details but she said like kill and other so then she was like. Do you want proof and she was like yeah. I want proof. Like i don't believe you. So they showed her the trunk and they said that is absolutely and amanda said. I could see her handprints and like fingerprints. I should see link claw. And she said when she saw that she lost it and she immediately left she was like. I don't know what to do. So at eight twenty pm while all this is going on everybody's stunningly losing their shit at eight twenty pm. Et boy sorry. A boy comes into the police station and he says he happened to be at a local bowling alley that night. He heard some teenage girls. Be discussing being witnesses to a brutal murder and he said they seemed like they were nervous and like freaking out but they were also talking about it like two people so this kid came in to be like. I don't know if this is true but they were talking about. I love thank goodness at the same time that this is happening. All of a sudden the madison police department calls this the police department the new albany one and they say tony lawrence has come into the station with her father so now they're starting to put this together. Like oh tony lawrence's one of the teenage girls. They were out of bowling alley. They went to a bowling alley and she said she had to talk about something involving a murder so they brought her to the sheriff's department and she just spilled she told them who chande was That she thought she was around thirteen. Initially tony was so frenzied and upset that she was like having trouble. Keeping things. straightened. Like custodial she was. She was hysterical and at one point. She said that. Shanna was from new albany so they started looking in new albany from minors. That had gone missing or anything. Nothing's coming up. Because her parents had reported her missing to clark county so that's the only it was just kind of like a a moment where like nothing was coming together but eventually they found the missing persons report in clark county and they were able to match it to shanta now an arrest warrant immediately went out for laurie and melinda and hope They surrounded the loveless home at two. Thirty am good. They barged through the door. They went up in rip. Delorean melinda out of bed to arrest them and they're reading them their rights and lori said wait. Can i ask you something. And he's in. The police officer was like sure and she said. Are we on candid camera. Are you fucking handing me that same night. Preppy was also arrested. Laurie doesn't give a shit about no. She doesn't care at all she oh she said later. She says to melinda later like she was like She was like. I don't feel bad like i don't feel bad for what we did so i don't understand why everyone is freaking out like she didn't feel bad at all well interviewing them. Melinda like i said earlier was trying to seduce the police. And what was she doing. They said she kept like leaning forward to try to like show them grow your turn on her and she was like basically like flirting with them trying to acting much more adult than a sixteen year old would like very like using seduction methods. Like girl even if you were like older and attractive. You're in here for a brutal. Yeah brutal torturous exaggerate or they are looking at you like. You're the devil himself which they should be and it's so and they said they were like she's a very pretty girl like she's sixteen year old girl. She's very pretty and she's clearly used to doing that to get out of things so they also they also i guess The two guys. That were interviewing laurie. Which is this is interesting. Had very different views about her one of them was like no. she's a remorseless monster and the other one was like no. I don't think she is weird. Yeah so. I don't know what that was. I think she's a remorseless monster. It was interesting So they also said that melinda was very unintelligent like they said that you really couldn't follow things she was saying because she was very like she was she was like talked fast but didn't make a lot of sense and they said that if they would have dropped her at a site like nearby she would never be able to make her way home like the president was. Yeah like she's very reduced to a child. Intelligence was So one of their friends. Who i'm gonna call karen because her name is in the book but i think that names are changed. Sometimes that i don't know if this is. I know that some of the names are changed in the book. I'll just caller cairn. so karen was. This girl was friends with all of them like she knew. All of these people michigan the punk scene. Yes she was just said. Come across all these people and she said quote. Melinda wanted me to take her to us house to beat her up. And i said i'm not gonna do it. And she said. I'm going to kill her and i'll just have someone else. Take me there. That will help me. Beat the hell out of her and she said sometimes she'd look at me and tell me if you don't take meter or house i'll just go on a rampage at school and get suspended. What the faa and she also said melinda told me before that if she had the chance she would kill. Chande and laurie was the type of person that would probably do that for her. Help her out. Just to keep friend is dark. She said melinda knew that lori had been telling everybody that she would enjoy killing somebody that it would be her destiny to go out and kill someone just to see what it felt like and just to hear someone screaming dot girl is like she sounds like she is not even helpful in she. This girl also mentioned that lori had a real fictious fixation with arson and like lighting things on fire contrasting so when the news broke. Obviously it was everywhere. Shannon's friends at her new school were absolutely devastated. Urge twelve year old friend. That's like a community. I don't even there was counseling. Offered for them like it was a huge deal. jackie's mother at this time had when she was going through shannon's things found him box with more letters between her and amanda and they details from amanda how melinda was dangerous and how she was going to kill her in how. That's why they have to stay apart. You don't take that seriously now. And she found this after the fact too so she was like this can only be used to like further prove that melinda did it and like that she had purposely with more malice. Aforethought done this. But can you imagine reading that later. No like so. An autopsy was conducted on chande. By dr george nichols of kentucky state. Medical examiners office. She had multiple injuries to our entire body. I mean her head her neck her arms or legs those stab wounds all over her legs there were stab wounds all over her chest her stomach her head her face her neck She had ligature marks on her wrists and the thing. That really really sucks about. This whole thing is soot was found in her upper airway. Which meant that. She was alive when she was lit on fire and had died of smoke inhalation of her own burning body that is the most fucked up way to die yep she had literally died from breathing in her body's fumes so she was alive when they let her on fire. Will you said i mean. She clutched lincoln. Yeah so she. They also confirmed that she had been viciously sexually assaulted with an option on not checked So and they believe it was obviously the tire during the trial for these girls Steve share her father. Spoke directly to hope and tony and he said to tony he said you have no idea the problems you have started in our family as we try to cope with this. It's very hard to understand why you did not try to stop this from happening. Because this was for hope. Tony's trial yeah And then he looked at hope and he said may you rotten hell with the rest of your murdering friends. Absolutely which is like she wants to sit there anything he and he did it right because he looked at tony and was like no one will understand why you didn't stop this so like no one's forgiving you for that like you're not let off the hook and then to look at hope and just like rotten fucking hell with the rest of your murder friends like you were just as culpable. It's just so. Jackie actually showed a slide. Show shonda to the court with pictures of her is like a baby and at one point. Hope look down. Wouldn't look and she. Jackie asked the judge. Will you please force her to look out. Lutely said. Lift your head and look so. She was forced order to watch good. I am so yeah. I love that. Yeah steve actually died in two thousand five. He had battled with depression and alcoholism after this the people said he just he never got. And how do you have over it. But he never he was able to even cope. Which how do you. How do you yeah. I don't i don't even know how you will. There's no way of reconciling not in your brain. Yeah i just. I don't understand that at all so all four of them were tried as adults. Good all of them And laurie and melinda the death penalty was on the table for the should have absolutely been instilled. Hope and tony Since they had spilled the beans and had cooperated with the police they did take plea deals. Shit tony was sentenced to criminal confinement. Because although she didn't do anything to harm chamdo physically with our own hands. She didn't help either necesary so she got twenty years in prison. Hope ended up getting fifty years in prison. Good and what. The judge said to hope was rookie had choices. There were avenues of escape ways to help yourself ways to help chande. She poured the gasoline. One would get caught even though she knew it would kill chande. Her lack of mercy of tender courage is a horrifying lesson to us all so she definitely didn't get off but then she appealed her sentence and got it reduced to thirty five years. How tony was released after nine years in prison. Absolute released in two thousand. That's bullshit hope was out in fourteen absolu- and she was released in two thousand and six. She poured gasoline on an already dying. Girl's body. She sprayed windex at her while she was dying in the trunk. She giggled along the way. Yup so. Laurie and melinda pled guilty to avoid the death penalty and both of them got sixty years in prison. Which was the maximum sentence and laurie later said prison. She said quote. I didn't know chande at all. I didn't go into that evening knowing anything was going to happen wanting anything to happen. I didn't peer pressure. That's all it was. It spiraled out of control way too fast. It's something that never should have happened. It's never it shouldn't have ever happen but none of that. Statement is true other than that lori was released in two thousand and eighteen twenty six years in prison. How is sixty years the the mandate or the skinny the maximum sentence. This is one of the just like how for burning alive. Human being i well unfortunately melinda was also released howard you into back into society was released in september two thousand and nineteen after only twenty seven years. How yep what did she do in prison. That made anybody believes that she wasn't going to light. Somebody's alive body on fire again. Well i can tell you what she did in prison. I can do that Melinda in prison was actually working with A thing called. I can or indiana canine assistant network in prison. What is thought. They basically have prisoners train dogs to work with disabled people in Child abuse survivors like dogs. That will be like comfort animals Want it actually. She was known when she was imprisoned to be one of the best. They brought all their most challenging dogs to her and she could like she shouldn't have been around. Incheon have had the pleasure one of the breeders of the dogs that melinda was training was actually a burn victim like burn victims survivor. Like chande and so. She said that she brought a so. She was in contact with jackie. Chan does mother this breeder and she said you know. I don't know she she basically was like. I don't tell me if you don't want this but i'm just offering this to you and she was like i don't know if it'll help you see that. She's doing better things in prisoner or like becoming a better person but she was like. Do you want to see a video of her trading dog. No and jackie was like yeah. I do i i give jackie absolutely world. I wanna know if she's doing something better whether life. Because i need to know that i need to see that. She's evolving as a human being in that she's not just. This monster jackie's an incredible human being so she watched her this video. And jackie said quote. I was really taken aback. I saw someone almost reborn. She was sincere. She was compassionate. I think the i can program allows her to have something in her life that she can show love too and there's never betrayal on either side for her to be able to reach into herself and go melinda fucking monster. Yes she my baby from me but for her to be able to go but in her childhood something was taken from her in. This program is allowing her to like somehow. Give it back. You know what. I mean like like dogs show something and and be loved by something like an for for her like jackie to be able to like. Have the emotional grief emotional capacity. That's truly outrageous. Like that's amazing. It's like an angel. Honor it truly. Is you want to hear what how like. She's amazing in two thousand and twelve. Jackie donated a pup for the program named angel and asked for linda to train it in shanez memory while belinda ever horrible. Jackie received shit for that people gave her shit for that. How because people are shit. It is none of your fucking business what anybody wants to do to get over the death of their child. Whatever the fuck shit unless you've even if you have experienced that don't say shit but you could never even imagine what the i can't even fathom what that woman went through and people wanna talk shit about her. Yeah people gave her shit. That's i actually saw somebody on a message board. When i was researching the molly bish case like blame. Her mom and i made fucking to yell at them. I don't even. I was like how dare you. How dare you. How dare you say anything about the mother of of of somebody who was taken away from them to to blame them like that's unbeliev. How dare you will this show. What she said about this choice was she said quote. It's my choice to make. She's my child. If you don't like good things come from bad things. Nothing gets better. And i know my child's would want this. My child would want this good for her. And if she says this is what child would wind chino since. Shut the fuck up and let her do it right like what the hell and what melinda said about this was she said you know what i didn't believe it when she when she was first told that she was going to be getting a dog named angel from jackie shannon's mother and she said that it was only when she saw the puppy that she was like holy. Shit this is real like she really did. Give me a dog. And then she said. That's the one. Jackie had touched had held had named and i said wow and then she said she helped me to. He'll forgive and grow whether she wanted that or not. She did a good thing. I would thank her. I couldn't thank her enough angels in good hands. And i'm doing it for chande in doing it for her. I just colleague. Little lump at the end of that but they. That's i mean it's it's insane to me than jackie. I shouldn't say that it's marvelous to me that the jackie was to find that kind of like on the. I'm tying nielsen that without as an angel on her absolute angel honor it just like every time i read about it i was like. Wow like that's has melissa. Our apologized to jackie. I i don't know if she's like. I'm sure i think she has. But i don't think nothing gears really looking for she. She like she said several times. I never wanna come face to face with them. I never wanna have no or anything. But she was like i did. This is just something i could do to like about. It was something that was healing to her exactly and if it was healing to her it didn't do anything bad. It was a good gesture. A dog is being trained by. Apparently somebody better what. She's good at it if she's training this dog in santa's name to help someone else. At least something good came out of it. There very stressful stuff. I i think it was honestly bethany. Franken that said this but it's like When you hate somebody it's like not being able to let go of that is like drinking poison expecting them to die. It's so true. I saw that. And it's so hard to understand that and it's hard to get through that in your brain but it is true and it's it's true when you can look outside of it just to see that. Jackie was able to be in it and see that is. Wow yeah wow like truly an even doing that doesn't mean that she forgave melinda. No that was just. She's like chande she said would would wanna want her to do. There was a listener. That wrote in something about like the like forgiving. Like how you don't have to forget. Yeah i forget exactly what she says but that. Yeah 'cause you don't i need. Wow but that the case of chande share in it. Everybody thousand one of the most difficult cases. I've we've ever done. How is a tough one. And i didn't even give like. There's i don't even more details that you know you can find but i wanted to at least include. What i thought was pertinent. Through all the cases we've covered. I've always thought herman like. Oh my god stop like wow like how do people like that exist in the world. This is something on the think about for like years to come. Oh yeah when. I first heard this. I i heard this case like when it happened. You know a little bit after it happened and everything we when i was a little left you and i never stopped thinking about it. This is the one that is like sat in my brain for years and years. Are people like that. How do people like that. Walk the earth. Yeah had somebody walk past. Melissa in a grocery melinda in a grocery store yeah and like not realize. That show is going to do someday. Yeah have no idea. It's yeah so world is a nut so place truly is so we really hope you keep listening. I hope you do. And i hope we hope you keep it. 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#1,264 - Mourning that Leads to Prayer (Genesis 23:12)
"Pre the word with david platt is a resource from radical dot net genesis chapter twenty three verses. One two. sarah lived one hundred twenty seven years. These were the years. The life of. Sarah and sarah died at curious. Arba that is hebron in the land of canaan. And abraham went into mourn for sarah and to weep for her. I read this verse today. As i think about this global pandemic we've been in for almost a year now and really looking back to around a year ago when we started hearing reports of people dying of what has become known as covid and since that time how many people have lost their lives just and united states where i live and around the world so many people who we love. I think about people in the church family. Apart of who seeing husbands wives parents children lose their lives and their morning over them. And i just want to lead us to pray. For god's mercy in the middle of mourning for so many people and unless a miracle happens today that more people will lose their lives today and tomorrow for us to pray together for an end to this pandemic for relief from the effects of code. So would you join me in. Pray and i. I don't know how close this hits two home for you. Maybe it hits very close to home that someone you're very close to has lost their lives or maybe you don't know many people who have regardless for us to mourn together and think about what the bible teaches about the church. When one part of the body hurts the whole body hurts. That's true in the church and all the more so when we think even beyond the church of people who don't know the hope of jesus who were walking through the grief of death. So let's pray. God we praise you is author of life even as we read genesis chapter. Twenty three verse. One we hear about sarah living hundred and twenty seven years. These were the years of the life of sarah. God we praise you for the life you have given to us and to all these people who have lost their lives over the last year due to this pandemic got reappraised you for the life you gave for your breath in them for the blessing of their lives in so many different ways we think about individual people thank you thank you thank you for their lives and for the reasons we have two more because we miss the life that you had given to them we praise you for them for your grace in especially as we think about our brothers and sisters in christ god we praise you for your salvation of them for the eternal life you gave them starting in their years On this earth and continuing even now and so god we pray for your mercy amidst morning in this world god for your mercy all across the world gallery pray. We plead for an end to this pandemic got. Please please please bring swift and do it. We pray for your wisdom for doctors. Researchers nurses all kinds of frontline workers for your strength in them for your help of them for wisdom for all of us when it comes to things like vaccine got we pray for an end to this pandemic. We pray for an end to this global morning due to cove it knowing. Oh god debt. All of us. Our lives are times or in your hands and none of us is guaranteed tomorrow and so we prayed. Help us to live and make the most of today. God help us especially as your people live with. The urgency of eternity prayed you'd help us to share the gospel continually frequently fervently passionately boldly compassionately with people around us today in the midst of a global pandemic with so many people dying. God we pray. Did the good news of your love and eternal life through faith in jesus would spread through. Uh oh god. Don't let us be silent with the gospel in any day. Especially during these days got help us to be active in sharing the gospel. The good news that we don't have to -gree without hope that we can grieve with a hope because jesus has died on the cross for sins and is risen from the dead. He's conquered the gray and all who trust in him can have eternal life with you. That death can be gained. God praise you for those who've experienced death as gain over this last year because of faith and reprinted more and more and more people would trust in jesus in this way and the us our lives toward that end. God help us to be active in sharing her faith in sharing the gospel. That people might know the hope. It's found in you in a time of global pandemic we praise you that we can mourn with hope because of your love and your grace toward us in jesus so i pray for that hope over all our morning with trust in you gotta pray for those. Who don't know this hope that they would find this. Hope in you in that you would use our lives to bring it to them. In jesus name we pray amen.
Donald Trumps impeachment trial continues: The history-changing power of convictional courage
"This is the daily article podcast published by denison forum or culture changing christians to receive the daily article directly to your email inbox. Week day morning. Visit the daily article dot com. Now here's today's news discerned differently. Donald trump's second impeachment trial began yesterday as prosecutors showed video of trump's supporters attacking the capital on january. Sixth senate majority leader chuck. Schumer has called the accusation against trump. The gravest charges ever brought against the president of the united states in american history. Republicans countered with the claim that only sitting president can face an impeachment trial. A divided senate voted fifty six to forty four against their position ruling. That the trial is constitutional. Today the prosecution and the defense will turn to the merits of the charge. As i noted yesterday president trump's strongest supporters during his administration are now the strongest opponents of his conviction while his strongest critics are now the strongest supporters of his conviction. When mr trump was first impeached last year each senator heard the same arguments but ninety nine of the one hundred voted on party lines when president clinton was impeached by the house in nineteen ninety nine and tried by the senate ninety. Five senators voted on party lines. All forty five democrats voted not guilty while all but five. Republicans voted guilty. None of this is surprising to you. I'm sure and that's my point today. One of the great challenges in a democracy is the tension between doing what it takes to get elected and doing. What's right once you're in office. You have to be in power to use your power for good but if you can't stay in office you cannot use your office and behalf of those who elected you this political fact relates directly to the partisan divide regarding the current impeachment trial in nineteen eighty democrats one senate seats in twelve thirty one states. That were carried by republican ronald reagan. Such nonpartisan mismatches. Were common in those days. By contrast in the most recent election thirty four of the thirty five senate races were won by candidates of the same party. They carried the state in the presidential contest. The lone exception was republican senator. Susan collins who won in maine while joe biden won the statewide vote. The message is clear. Senators need to vote on party lines to stay in office. One could argue that. This is a good thing. We vote for the candidates who best reflect. Our values needs wishes. We then expect them to reflect. Those values needs and wishes in office at the same time. We can assume that our elected leaders know more about the issues we face than most of us for example you and i are not privy to what the us senate select committee on. Intelligence is told in confidence by the c. I. a. the nsa and other clandestine organizations. We want our elected representatives to act in our best interest even if they must sometimes act in ways that contradict. What we thought was best for us. Politicians are not the only leaders who must balance principles with pragmatics corporate. Ceos know the saying no margin no mission if they do not add value for shareholders or meet other financial metrics. They cannot fulfil the other purposes of their organization. Pastors know that if their church is not growing numerically it can struggle to minister effectively. This balance is just one place where the biblical worldview is vitally significant for our secular culture on the one hand a five twenty four urges us to let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever flowing stream. Whatever the consequences old testament. Prophets and new testament disciples alike paid for the courage of their convictions often with their lives. When peter told the san hebron we must obey god rather than men in acts five twenty nine he was clearly acting principally rather than pragmatically on the other hand jesus called us to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves in matthew. Ten sixteen when his disciples were rejected. They were to shake off the dust from your feet when you leave the house or town as matthew john. Fourteen says when the jerusalem church faced controversy regarding the care of greek speaking widows. The people were invited to pick out from among you. Seven men to carry-on this ministry notably all seven had greek names. Some scholars believe paul's missionary. Journeys followed the trade routes of his day so he could support himself while preaching the gospel when principles and pragmatics seemed to be in conflict. What do we do one. Submit your wishes to the spirit of god. God's word is clear proverbs three five and six says trust in the lord with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him and he will make straight your paths to lena. Our understanding is to depend on it. The tax does not instruct us to ignore our own understanding. In fact we are to love. God with all your mind as matthew twenty to thirty seven says we are to seek god's wisdom through prayer biblical study and the wise counsel of others knowing that god will make straight your paths to pay any price to do what is best in james four seventeen god's word warns whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it for him. It is sin by contrast proverbs. Ten nine says that whoever walks in integrity securely such conviction courage can change our culture in ways we may never know and february third. Nineteen forty three. The ss dorchester was attacked and began to sink in the frigid waters of the north atlantic. Four chaplains aboard the ship opened a storage locker and began distributing life jackets when there are no more life jackets in the storage room. The chaplains removed there's and gave them to four frightened. Young men one survivor said it was the finest thing i have seen or hope to see this side of heaven. The chaplains linked arms and went down with the ship in nineteen forty eight. They were honored with a commemorative stamp. The chapel of the four chaplains was dedicated by president. Harry s truman. In nineteen fifty. One other chapels have been dedicated to the four chaplains around the country and overseas in nineteen ninety eight february third was designated four chaplains day by congress recognitions of their sacrifice. Continue each year on that day. When we act with conviction courage our world can never be the same. How is this fact relevant to you today. Connect with a denison forum on facebook. Instagram and twitter to keep the conversation going. Thank you for listening to the daily article podcast today.
Ice & Fire Picks, Hot Lockett, Groin Index
"Hey foot clan. We are so excited to bring you the bigger batter better ultimate draft kit for twenty nineteen and you can get it right now at ultimate draft kit dot com for the preorder price before releases June. I get in there you'll get access to all the player data you could ever want rankings hundred plus player profile videos, Matt Harman's reception perception, the brand new app, right there on your phone, and more. Check it out at ultimate draft kit dot com. Well to the fantasy footballer spot cast coming to you from pristine option dot com studios with your home's Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike. Right. Oh, come in. Bring it back. We're bringing it back. I and fire. Yes, I fire on the show today. Ice and fire. I should fire. We debuted this segment, the featured segment on today's show debuted that on last year's live tour, and it was a it was a wonderful success. Probably the best thing we've ever done people often on the foot cast our Thursday show. They say they literally come to they just want to handle and just say please play that drop. Please just just play after that. Don't say anything just play the drop play multiple times. So that's on today's show. I for all intensive purposes, this is our cat of individual super early sleeper super early bust. Knicks sure would know it's our ice and firearms because we do have a very exciting end to the game of thrones universe coming on Sunday. And so we will Jason you're doing okay. I'm still not over anything. We're supposed to say. Spoiler alert. Yes. That's what the nice people say, if you haven't watched it, if you're a fireman is my point out, firefighters firefighters are aghast, part of their job, there, appear, not allowed to watch game of thrones until three days, four days later. Well to be my cousins, a firefighter. I know what he does. The firehouse. No. You did say you got some feedback day fighters shout out to the diligent firefighter, who doesn't just, you know, like us watch game of thrones. All right. We heard one person in France, who takes a little extra time as because people in France. Well, thirty our work we get down on the TV signal has to go all the way over there. Oh, that's as yes. That's not just we actually we send it by boat. Really big real. Yes. The game there's only one real, and then they have to duplicate. It's huge. I did not know any of that, Mike, learn about France, male. All right. We do have a great quick question to start the show. It's a little bonus bonus or aggressor impress bonus. We had their aggressor impress show on Tuesday. We did not talk about, oh, clock it. Yes, Tyler Lockett. We brought up the fact Baldwin he's retiring in Seattle, great career, but we didn't talk about the fantasy implications. The fantasy impact of the retirement of Doug Baldwin Tyler Lockett. I heard my call him the Loch Ness monster yesterday because he is just an enigma. Mr. And it was a clever pun, KU correct, correct? So there was also another quote from Mike. You said Tyler Lockets twenty eighteen season haunts my dream. Let's here's the thing is I've talked about it for a while of how just just going off with the roster ticks, and how they just skyrocketed where he got the same targets the same receptions, but it's catch percentage in yards and touchdowns just went through the absolute roof, and then someone had asked me. Well, what is what happened with this air yards? And if you're not familiar area arts you're just measuring the ball in the air. I mean these aren't like scored or anything. But it helps you identify what's happening with a wide receiver a lot of air yards is, is very, very positive. And you know that they're going to eventually hit, and it's all players that actually have more receiving yours than air, yards, makes complete sense. You have Michael Thomas, Julian Ataman, Adam Humphreys, Colby's, -ly, PR guys, who. Our yards after the catch. They're getting short. And then they're adding on after the ball has traveled through the air not not dishonor, Jack who's going deep my Evans. You know, just huge air yards, Laura, walk it. Yeah. That's the thing is last year somehow Tyler Lockett who generally speaking has double the amount of air yards. Then he does receiving yards had more receiving yards an air yards. It's literally impossible one here in handling this, well, not gonna wind you're going to go talk to somebody. We've already arranged it. You're gonna sit down once a week talk through your Tyler Lockett, Russell Wilson feelings idea like he feels about Tyler Lockett, how I feel about Danny. Oh, like from game if they're on this, I can't handle I can't I can't handle what would title lock it did because it more from the projecting him into next year? And now you have some some reports coming out like, Evans Silva's tweeting out. It sounds like from Seattle that Tyler Lockett is going to be the slot guy. Now, what is happening? Huge problems. Projecting Seattle in general massive. You. You have a very compelling case for regression based on the analytics of Tyler Lockett, except that, if that regression happens, but it is counterbalanced by the fact Doug Baldwin retires. By the fact he moves into the slot. Maybe receives higher quantities of targets and more total reception. Yeah. The slot newsbreaks everything all of this makes it very difficult to predict regression in our ultimate draft kit. We make a number of picks for sleepers breakouts. Values busts. Lock. It was written on our board as a question, Mark around the bus category. And we couldn't do it because of the removal of Doug Baldwin because of I don't even like looking at Tyler Lockets consistency charts as an indicator of anything because this was a player who has had injury issues, who was he's been young and has been an ascending talent in the NFL going through changes of offense in Seattle. Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't even read into twenty fifteen sixteen seventeen because it's just too far in the past. If this is a regressive impress obviously, the data says that he should regress, but I would actually go the other way, which is rare, you know, usually I am always siding with the data I go with impress because look at what Matt Harmon has always thought, you know, when he charts, he's always since, you know, rookie year Tyler Lockett said, look, this is a really good wide receiver. Now, if you have a really good wide receiver who is now. The number one undisputed with a hall of fame quarterback in his prime. I mean, you know what, what more do you want a really talented wide receiver in a really talented quarterback? I realized that they're not a high passing volume team, but Russell Wilson's going to get the job done, and he's going to do that with Tyler Lockett. So I'm I'm in on Tyler Lockett for twenty nineteen and the thing that we have to remember to we were a little bit shocked at what Seattle did last year. This is a player for fantasy purposes. That was the forty four th sixty I fifty eighth going into last year. Those were Hispanic finishes for three consecutive years, and then he got paid by Seattle. You remember that it was almost as though they knew, the not only that they were going to utilize him in conjunction with that big paycheck. But just that what was on the table like Doug Baldwin's future, not secure. They obviously went out and drafted decay Metcalf. I'm sitting here going, okay, how much of an impact will met have have compared to a guy like. Gary jennings. Fourth round draft pick. You just don't know who's going to emerge. But, you know, who Tyler Lockett is an interesting case Mike. Let us know if you work through some of the impossible demons at some points on we encourage you to follow us on Twitter. I'm gonna give you all of the handles at the F F ballers the show handle at Andy Holloway. That's mine. Jason, Jason NFL Mike. You can follow the hitman himself at f- f hitman the website is definitively, footballers dot com. And one thing I wanted to mention we appreciate all the reviews that we've seen coming in on apple podcast. They do a lot for the show. So if you enjoy what you're listening to if you're excited about us moving to three days a week, five days a week in the season, please head over to alpine cast leave us a review. And if you're interested, if you're in Chicago, fear in San Francisco, New York, Phoenix, you wanna come see the show live, you can go to ballers live dot com. Get your tickets. They are going quick. There aren't any left in Los Angeles. So if you're one of those cities head over there, let's talk about some news. News notes from around the league presented by sleeper. All right. Let's talk about colts tied ins, gentlemen. Oh, not to be outdone. Eric hebron. He read the report about Jack Doyle expected to be ready from camp with the hip injury. Well, Eric Hebron is also on the mend from a groin injury. I feel like I missed this in the everybody. Did I this is the first? I've heard of it. And when I saw beat reporters talking about it, they guys don't subscribe to the groin index, the newsletter it was all over that, man. What's the what I actually I don't for the groin index. I don't recommend driving to that. I really don't. You know, you think you want to, and then you don't going index dot com. Registering it, please don't Eric Braun. Nobody knew about it this happens every offseason. Right. You got a handful of players that, oh, they went under the knife to get something taken care of. What, what does it matter? I mean what, what is the impact for you? Well, the, the impacts is probably nothing. It just I it's very positive for my narrative that argue Brown will be an ice player. I'm going to talk about him later, boys. You're you we already said, you're supposed say spoiler. You split your spoiling the rest of the show Mike. Sorry they. All right. Let's anything else down. I mean look, it's not you don't want players coming off of injury. So it is it's in the negative column for for era. All right. NFL networks might Garoppolo confirms Bill bell check going to be the defensive coordinator for the team in twenty nineteen. That means there will not be a head coaching candidate coming out of the defensive coordinator position next year. Tyler I for he has been essentially a full go and offseason workouts. We've all been through our initial rankings for the twenty nineteen fantasy football season. Tyler effort is my highest ranked Cincinnati Bengals tight knit he's mine as well. But that put him in the fifteen range as a sleeper tight end candidate. Look, if you're going to completely punt the tight end position and take title and with your last pick. I'm saying it again Tyler you could do worse than going into week one seeing if Tyler I for. Can be healthy. Yeah. No, that's fair. Albert Wilson sideline to start. OTA's. That's expected. Yeah, it's just a Albert Wilson for fantasy purposes is a dangerous. Yeah. Even go further and say, Miami, what did I say? You said Albert Wilson, C I Miami, in general. You're saying you're taking wells in your expanding it to stills into Parker into there's no sure fire I mean, I, I like Drake. I'll take Drake and nothing else. Love the Drake. Love the Drake. The Cleveland Plain dealer's Mary, Kay caveat reports do Johnson. We'll participate not as it's amazing. How many times this has to be reported that he will be playing for the team? He's on. That is not a good sign for his purposes when he demanded a trade, you know, it was one of those things where okay you go outside cream hunt. I don't wanna be here. I wanna get in. I want to be involved. But clearly, the team is saying, look, you're going to be involved. You are part of the plan. We need you. You're going nowhere. So he has no choice to be fair for Duke, the when he did this the first time when he made a, a bit of. Scene, if you recall when he looked, basically deleted his Twitter, and it was this really strange passive, aggressive social media attack worked out the contract in right after that, so could disappear to another team. Well, just saying, I don't blame him for going back to the well when it worked the first pets as fair teams. They go under social pressure. Yes. And they've been. All right. What about this news? Because this broke the smarting bizarre, the jets have fired their GM and the VP of personnel. Yeah. Both these guys were the ones that orchestrated the trade up for Sam darnold. They orchestrated all of the off season signings of Levy on bell, and C. J Moseley in the big the big acquisitions and they're gone. They're done and reports are coming out all over the place about Adam gays, not wanting to sign levian Bill O, because the honest truth was this and we've set it off season. Like nobody we knew he'd get paid. Because I only takes one but because it only takes one team but nobody wants to spend money on the running back position, no matter how good you are. I mean Adam gates he's got this weapon, he has no choice. But he's the interim GM now. Yeah. He's Mr. buttonholes keeping people out of the out of the organization now. We're, we're in the realm of speculation. And he said, she said stuff coming out of New York. Do you believe Adam gays, did not want to do this vehemently, and do you, do you think this affects things at all? Like if Adam gates did it want him will he really, really say, okay? I'm giving you twenty plus carries a game. I'm giving you six targets game. If there is a coach who would take a talented player who's clearly best and not just give them a runway to do his job. I think he got the name for a reason. So he's done it before. It's all Kenyan Drake. Yeah. So no, look, I guess, at the show. But as of now jazz of now, I am not changing my rankings, I have Levy on bell with the healthy workload, the money, dictates that the talent should dictate that, but we can't just ignore the fact that the reason he got the moniker and it could happen again. And the thing is, if you, if you don't have the support, you at least believe gays has a vision for bringing him in. You would have thought he was the driver. He says, I need this guy. He's got to be a part of my offense. I wanna use them in this way, if it was a middling running back and you found this out, I would be more concerned because his love Bill and the money. Like Jason say the guy give him the money he go. Yeah. Well, let bells there. So we'll see what happens be sure to play on a fantasy sports platform that does not suck that is key. Yeah. Check out the sleeper at modern design infinite customization support for redraft dynasty and keeper leagues as always. Our news brought to you by the sleeper app, gentlemen. Before. Oh. He was ready. I know I want to tantalize for. But sixty seconds more, I want to thank hellofresh for supporting today's show. Do you guys like food love? I love food. Do you like more than you, two guys you live more than good? I even more than regular food. Do you like food that comes together in a maximum of thirty minutes? You don't have to wait. Yes, sir. It doesn't require a lot of cleanup. Yep. Even better. 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Go back put the headphones in sit. In a good go back to the bathroom with the head, but that's that'll word out, outta work and play that drop over the well-done Mike. Thank you. I know how you came up with the music, but it was great. Yeah. Ice and fire a lot more fire than ice on the last episode. Let's put it that way. But we're going to make the little the Matic transition into fantasy football here, picking ice pick any fire pick for twenty nineteen these are fun. Yes. These are exciting. I'm gonna start. All right. And we're gonna bring the ice, I write you deal with the Nike king first. And then you deal with the innocent people. My ice pick. And there were several that I was looking at. But I don't know if it can be any icier than will New York City for the football giants. And I actually think golden Tate could under wellm in a big way this year. Golden Tate's kind of track record in fantasy football. And the National Football League has been yards after the catch. Right. You just brought up the air yards versus like golden Tate multiple times as led the league in yards after the catch. Yep. He's always going to catch the ball six seven yards away from the line of scrimmage, that's just as historical average. But is that going to be enough for fantasy owners in New York? He's a new addition to that offense. And if he's great gentlemen, do you realize why? Targets me. He has to get volume from whom. Ally alignment if he's great ally. Manning is playing a part in or the or the tight end who's gonna complain coordinator will Jones. Then so you know three or four touchdowns the ball inaccurately or occasionally thrown to him six or seven yards from scrimmage. I think that you, you have a real wasteland situation. That's possible in New York with the pass catchers and just to get your Turkey before think about thinking about what the defense is going to be doing against the New York Giants that they couldn't do against a when he was in his heyday, with the lions, right? You've got call golladay or Marvin Jones, or you got people stretching the field going long. Now, it's like okay, where's the defense focus? They're all up at the line there. Like go ahead, you they're trying to stop saquon. They're trying to, you know, so that short stuff those screens, there's going to be a lot of defenders in that area for Golden State, they have to break through and get those yards after no old like gold as not old. But he's, he's thirty years old. And he's been around the block a few times he wasn't very relevant in Philadelphia on, I'll give him the pass on that because. Midseason transition, whatever you want to say, but he's not a player that's going to be a guarantee to show up in the insult. And if he's bad. I find a lot more reasons why he would be Pat low pass volume ally man, and could be a problem. He could transition to Daniel Jones saquon. Sterling Shepard Ingram could receive. Enough of a low pass volume offense to kind of reduce him into a fantasy disappointment. And so, you know, it's just something that I think could be deceptive pick going to a new team and not knowing what golden tastes really going to be and a lot of times. People say somebody has to be fantasy relevant right from an offense or from a wide receiver core. But there are wastelands in fantasy football sometimes they're AMI's, receiving core has often been a wasteland in recent years. And I just don't know how much I can expect from golden Tate. That's, that's why he's in my ice pick as of may fifteen on. I'm I am totally on board with this because it's it's volume you have to have volume for golden to me he was in the league for four years before he went to Detroit, and we and fantasy players actually cared who golden Tae was. And that's when he took off it. It's. It's not that they, they won't give a player that target volume because Odell Beckham seasons of one hundred thirty eight hundred fifty eight like if golden Tate's getting one hundred fifty eight targets you're happy, but the difference is Oto Beckham is giving you fifteen yards a reception thirteen and a half yards per reception. Can the giants afford to give a player who's only giving you averaging ten yards a reception that type of target volume can the offense sustained drives living that type of alive? And I'm not sure that they can. All right. My Jason you have to pick an ice player who I look I've got a beautiful ice player. And I don't even like I don't mean pica's great, right? I mean it's hands in sculpted out of a live is, yes, Jimmy handsome, Jimmy Gherat. All come on now. I know people already Niner fans are destroyed. They're already, they're throwing tomatoes at their television screen handsomer. Jimmy garoppolo. Are they throw? Snow because we're on the television screen Hanson oh, Jimmy Garoppolo. Okay. I don't think Johnstone's actually that hands. What he's not telling off man. You seen here. Sizes go watch. This isn't a thing for me. Go watch the Senate live where Joe Harrington hosted, and then see him without his beard. Go ask any woman in America. I've just had they want once and watch him without the beard, and you go, oh, we're like a poll needs to go up you need. Is he good Paul? I'm putting a poll. All right. Mark Morton stuff while I talk about silly fantasy football. Here's the thing with Jimmy Garoppolo. He could be outstanding. He could light the world on fire. We have seen in small bursts, incredible play when he came over in the trade to San Francisco and he had his, you know, the games where he took the team that wasn't winning. And he said win. We're not going to lose any more, he was on pace in that stretch for five thousand yards. So there's plenty of reason why people are all hyped. They're excited now they go out and they get some great options in the draft. I think deebo Samuel is a fantastic wide receiver prospect. I think Jalen Hurd, is really interesting. You have George Kittle. We all know I love Dante Pettis. So there's a lot of reasons why Jimmy Garoppolo could both succeed. And a lot of reasons why people are super hyped. So why am I saying this is my ice player right now? It's basically because. The NFL's changing for fantasy quarterbacks. It used to be where Alex Smith and those type of players they're rushing for two hundred yards and it's like, wow, you don't realize how much value that adds a toe. Get outta here with with two hundred yards. Cuyler Murray, Lamar Jackson Cam Newton. Russell Wilson Josh Allen two hundred yards is nothing for rush game. You am I. Right. Right. And so this is a quarterback in Jimmy Garoppolo who you know, he's not a rushing e he was somewhat mobile. We saw that on the knee injury, but coming off of the ACL injury. I doubt he's really going to be trying to be the hero on running plays. So let's give them a one hundred twenty five rushing yards or a hundred or you know somewhere around there. Yeah. If that's the case, and that will be the case you are going to have to have him throwing a lot of touchdowns period when he was on that, incredible fifty or five. Two thousand fifty five thousand yard pace. He was on pace for nineteen touchdowns. That was two seasons ago, use the end of the season after the trade. And here's the reason, look, I think the future is bright. But I think this year with Dante Pederson deebo Samuel. And Jalen Hurd, a lot of there's gonna be some learning curves for these players. And I think when it comes to the office of the San Francisco forty Niners, they are stronger at running back with jerk McKinnon, Matt burrito, and re weapon and. Yeah. And technical Hohmann, and my name is Jeff Wilson. Is there still? So if you look at the history of Kyle Shanahan, who is an office of mastermind. He's great. He has a long history of having incredible passing yardage offenses when he was back with Houston two times. He was a top ten passing yardage team. When he was with Washington he had a top ten passing yardage team. When he was with Atlanta two times top ten passing steam. This is what he does. But so many of those years, you had the passing touchdowns middle of the league, twenty three twenty seven like bottom of be enough in today's NFL is yard is. So my point is if he's going to be back there as a as a passing quarterback you'll have the yardage. He's going to have to have touchdowns to capitalize on where you're drafting Jimmy Garoppolo. I think he's more in the mid twenties touchdowns this year, twenty four twenty five touchdowns. You're not going to be excited about that. He's going to need to be up at the thirty three touchdown Mark to be like, yeah, he fire. Let's move to fire picks now or hers. I was trying to skip yours. Well, I like it. First of all, Jimmy Garoppolo is off to a commanding league all lead already over John snow told you in, in the handsomeness part. So I play her. I already spoiled it apparently why is player is going to be Eric Ibran tied for the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. I mean, coming off a groin injury that it just gets worse and worse for arrogate run. But here's the thing. Since the year two thousand tight ends that had a season with ten or more receiving touchdowns. It's thirteen players. So not a huge list names, you would expect some names, you would not expect. There are certainly outlier seasons. Like Mercedes Lewis for shanty Irv. Asante shaneco, aching. Yeah. Yeah. So then I I'd narrowed that down. Okay. Tight ends that were able to follow up that season with at least seven or more touchdowns that chops list down to five players and those are exactly the names. You would think of gronk, Jimmy Graham Antonio gates, Vernon Davis Antonio Gonzales, that's it. Those are the players I, I gave him those are great. Those rights are basically like those are hall of fame level tighten those are like first round NFL draft like top ten fell draft pick. Thais. Oh, talent. What do you think of Eric? No. What do you think of Eric Ebro? You put Eric run in the hall of fame already. I'm just saying he was a top ten NFL draft pick telling because he was picked top ten. And then if they'll draft but so here's then on top of that. Those were full-time players, Eric E Bron was not a full-time player win Jack Doyle was on the field gains one game number one forty five percent of snaps game to twenty six point two. Jack Doyle gets hurt air e- bronze playing pretty. Well, why would they go back to Jack Doyle as a cut snaps from, Eric Hebron, except that's exactly what they did week? Eight Eric Brown drops to twenty one percent of the snaps and then down to thirty eight percent of the snaps in week nine what is ice mean to you with Eric Hebron bias means that thirteen right? Thirteen touchdowns though. He said seven were before the by the rest came after nearby. And what does it translate to for fantasy owners? Because I look, I liked the argument Doyle and funchess funchess's arrival big body goal-line guy. I don't even have to make the argument. The point is that the touchdowns could come down. But what does that equate? Because obviously a weapon that just did it that just put up thirteen touchdowns shirt. They don't sit back and go boy, that was well, it's a little too much. Let's go ahead and dial it back. We don't want to score them anytime. So what is the real Listrik expectation is at eight touchdowns is at six I think I if he hits eight I would be surprised I put that threshold at seven for a reason because I do not think Erica. Bronc and hit eight. Now you realize that the weeks eight and nine the weeks you brought up or his odds. He was on pace for twenty four touchdowns. Look, here's crazier numbers because this is why it was hard to bind. Eric Broncos in games. When Jack Doyle was playing he was averaging three receptions, a game and one point one six touchdowns. So three catches over a touchdown per game that my thirty three percents weight is that's what you're betting on is I don't I think Jack dole comes back I think he is the primary tight end. Because he's just a better all around player. Eric in, if you're taking Eric Brown where you have to in that. Like fifth sixth round what you are betting on is three receptions and one touchdown game. I have loved, Eric Braun since his college days have been a big believer in his talent. His speed size ability to beat defenders. And so I am on team. Eric ibran. But the point you bring up are extremely valid. I, I would I have hesitation like I have him as a very high risk player this year because for him to repeat for where he's being drafted, it's going to be difficult. And so, even if the Eric Hebron, truth or can get behind, what you're saying, and be like, yeah, I'm definitely not drafting him at in an early round when he's going to be the fifth tight end off the board. Like, I'm not I'm not putting my eggs in that basket. Then you probably shouldn't his year could very much be ice and fire. Yes. I mean you can have some games that he has the two three touchdown potential. And what I what I'm not saying is he can't do it because he did it last year. I'm just saying I'm going to bet on the side of probability that it cools off that a player is not going to average one point one six touchdowns per game. As the secondary tight end when a team has added all over there often, you're right? He'll be the primary. Good appoint Mike. Thank you. Good luck with one groin. How many do you have you got to know? As I was saying it I was not. Sure. Do you got to groins one big like a UC muscle to groins at one groin, you where you can pull your growing on either side? How many did you just write that a half, and you have to have a growing on, hold on? Hold on growing index dot com. Go to the newsletter. It. He's growing index. Do not go to that website. No. Please do not Jason is taking your way too long for ROY. Well. You have one growing, there's a group of grossest sides. So I'm really not sure good luck with half. A girl had. There we go. You have to groin muscles one on each side. There's a yes. No. It's, it's really easy. If you look at the picture, it's your. Abductor longest muscle Aranka. You gotta love you this, Mike. It's, it's the most appearance the easiest most clear diagram of, of the desert. Yes. I have a oh, how many now you know, not a doctor. Yeah. All right. Here's a player. Here's my fun. At pointed, which one of those two growing did Hebron's. I had to be the left. I don't know. He scored all his touchdowns on the left side of his growing. All right. This is the rail. Mike Williams Brooks. Okay. How you doing over there doing great UN on Mike Williams? He's my fire pick for twenty nineteen. There are players you watch on film, there are players that give you both anecdotal and analytical reasons to like them. Mike Williams is one of those for me. I guys you've, you kinda remember this is the seventh overall pick in the NFL drafter a couple of years ago. This is not. And those are the kind of players that emerges fantasy talents. Tyrone Williams is gone. Everything else is in an established comfortable place in Los Angeles. With the chargers and Mike Williams last season double digit touchdowns. He is figuring things out. And one of the things that doesn't show up in your general game, log and stats sheet that you look at as a fantasy player he had a major contribution in the playoffs against New England eleven targets against New England. I love seeing that forty-one reception. Six hundred plus yards from tyrel gone. Mike Williams was wide receiver ten from weeks eleven through fifteen. So you've seen upside at times you're looking for upside with consistency with Mike Williams this year. And I think you're going to see an increase in target volume and increase in total receptions. And I know this guy's going to find the endzone because he's enormous great body control. Great goal line threat. Love Mike Williams coming into the new year. I know I am the highest by far amongst the three of us on him. But I believe he will emerge this season. And you will be very happy with what you have to spin for him versus what you get from him in fantasy drafts. Yeah, I mean I, I like Mike Williams allot the, the reason that I've got him, you know as, as a slightly more questionable versus a break. A lot of reasons he could break out talent Tara Williams gone. But the fact that last year, he had eleven total touchdowns. Right. Ten ten receiving believe he had a rush. Touchdown as well. You say, okay. Is he going to go up from there? I mean, he's got the talent to do it. But Philip rivers had a very efficient passing touchdown pass season last year. I don't think Philip rivers is going to throw for many more touchdowns than he did last season. So that's where I just I only my only question, maybe it's just a difference in how it comes. Maybe he gets more volume touchdown. Stays the same. And then and then there he goes, he's, he's risen in the rankings. I just worry, what if he comes down to eight touchdowns? That'd be great eight touchdowns but losing to off of last season. It hurts. Yeah. You do. He's never going to be eighty ninety catch guy. That's not the MO that you're going to get with Mike Williams. He has to be what Vincent Jackson used to be in San Diego, which is sixty seven to seventy five or sections big play touchdown opportunities. You lose the five cents with tyrel, I think ten I think he can get back to ten and that's all I need from Mike Williams because I think the other statistics. Go up. So I, I am projecting that only sixty six targets last year, those are going to rise. Yeah. With his with his main line role in this offense. The question for me is the fear of hunter Henry, 'cause I'm more worried about hunter? Henry, eating ensue where Mike Williams performs best than than tyrod Williams. But if you look at the snaps Mike Williams was not a full-time player. Tyrel Willie's was on the field more than him. So now now he's gone. Does that does that automatically turn into a substantial increase in targets when you have hunter Henry there as well? So that, that's my hesitancy. I don't blame you at all fair because tyrel was not an I mean, forty one receptions, that's not a massive vacuum under just as much differ roles in the offense. But I think confidence wise you saw this with Philip rivers over the back half of the season. And this is why I say the anecdotal the visual evidence. Bright, Mike Williams is a gamer he wants to win. And I love those play. On my fantasy team because they go out and he there were times like that rushing touchdown. You talked about he put the team on his back in one that game with his play alone. So he stole a Justin Jackson's touchstone on that, while you're darn right? He was very of sets. All right. Fire? Ruddy. Now, I've never heard of this guy or you speak of it. We've been here before. No, we have it. Look. I loved carry on. I talked to carry on up as a talent. But if you remember last year, I talked I said, it's going to be the year after afterward. After you do more last year, I said, look, it's going to be next season when carrying really north norc season, I have to stick with my guns here because there's literally nothing that we saw to say anything except I everything I said, happened he was unbelievable. No. Would you say that carry on was easily? If I had to cast the Twitter vote. I mean, I might not put it as everything you said happen. But if I had to cast the Twitter vote in your favor with what you saw from carry on in projected for him or against you, I would cast it for you. He looks like a David Johnson s player on the field. He's multi-threat and that is necessary for fantasy football explosive. Oh, explosives still a problem. And his name is Matt Patricia act and maybe Matthew Stanford. I don't think those are problems for twenty nineteen and here's why if you look at by carry on Johnson. So here's the oh, keynote, here's the thing. Kerryon Johnson last year was unbelievably efficient, right? I've point four yards per carry great in the receiving aim. He was a fantastic producer did not have a, you know, a lot of touchdown volume come his way. The lions were not that good. And here's a big reason you wanna know a big reason why the lions were not good. You say Matt Patricia, and you're half, right? It was Matt Patricia in his great strong. Well documented relationship with legare blunt la- Garrett blunt and him were good. Friends from New England legare blunt came over from New England because he was going to get the pro yo level. How fro you Tuesday that was their routine? Lou Gehrig blunt played sixteen games and got one hundred and fifty four carries. So people are like, oh, well. C J Anderson. Their C t Anderson's not getting more than one hundred fifty four cares. But you wanted to let C J Anderson might just actually do he might help keep drives alive. Why would you give a guy the ball one hundred fifty four times when he's averaging two point seven yards per carry? Look your point wasn't bad. He was unfathomable like, why would you terribles guy the ball every time that he was in their drive stopped? They stalled now I don't think they're going to give carry on Johnson the ball, three hundred times they're going to use J Anderson. But if you look at what happened the first couple of weeks of last season carrying on Johnson was not very involved. He broke kind of in this started getting more carries week three. If you look from week three on with putrid la- Garrett blunt, Carrie Johnson was already this isn't like projecting forward. He was all. Ready on pace for two hundred and eleven carries and sixty targets those numbers in year two. Now that he's the man he's going in as the starter. They signed his backup as opposed to last year who's going to compete with her blunt. Those numbers are going to go up from two hundred ten and sixty he is extremely efficient their offense of line. They're getting a first round draft pick back from health that I think that this is going to be the year that carry on breaks out. So you know my fire pick. I, I know I've talked about him a lot. There's not much more. I need to say, other than this, I'm, I'm sticking with what I've been saying for two years, twenty nineteen we'll be the year of kerryon Johnson, do you? So if they're too little alarm bells that go off for me. And you can speak to them briefly, and then we'll get into Mike's pick. I worry like do we think that Detroit is a better football team than the Green Bay Packers. Minnesota Vikings are sococo bears. I do not think they are a better football team than those teams. No. And so my concern is that a little bit like my golden Tate, argument will the touchdowns be there to the degree that carry on Ken sufficiently breakout one hundred percent. I have carry on down for eight rushing touchdowns. That's not that's not an an exorbitant number. I actually have his utilization. I didn't move him very far up from the two hundred sixty that he was that he was already on pace for last season. I think he's just so efficient, and while the Hyperion, there's hyper talented players, like David Johnson, though. Who win the offense did not do enough. You saw the swing and fantasy produced Rb ten though. Right. Yeah. And that's my point. I think this, this offense isn't going to be great. But I think it's going to be better than it was last season and fire to be half fire to be had. I what I forgot. Kerryon Johnson was just how fantastic the target volume was. You. You did see a very clear transition if you're just gonna do a box score hunt. Lou Gehrig blunt once week seven hit made three carries five six when he was averaging writer on double digit carries. And that's when kerryon Johnson really took over as the main guy and he was averaging five targets game as in. He's an ass lows of player passes, the eye test looking after you Stafford's always pass to the running back. Yes. Yes. So you'll Riddick has been one of the leaders in the last several years. If kerryon Johnson is on the field more, he'll have more Tarzi Zeo's until still hanging out though. Right. He is still hanging out. All right, Mike. You get to finish this up your fire pick for the air. My fire pick. We've talked about him a little bit. He's already got himself. One of them fancy trademark fantasy football nicknames. David Montgomery, aka David. Mapra. -tunities. Mm opportunity, knocking it. Absolutely is I want to just highlight a couple of things about David. K can't say Kenya just not every time. Exactly. He'll be mopping up the floor with defenses. He's in the perfect situation. Do do people realize last year? Jordan Howard had the sixth most attempts at the running back position two hundred and fifty people may not realize how high of a number he had because they got kind of burned by him for fantasy in Matt Nagy is trying his best to create the Kansas City Chiefs, where he maybe he was cutting his teeth there. He learned the Andy Reid system and David Montgomery has received some cops to Kareem hunt. You can look at a grand Barfield to has a methodology called yards created where it looks at these at these rookies coming in. He said, David Montgomery had the most tip most miss tackles per carry like he's a he's a decent. Player he can do everything that Matt Nagy wants him to do in. I was hearkening back to win Kareem hunt had his breakout year. And there was that low and everyone freaked out. What is going on with Kareem hunt? Once Matt Nagy took over the play calling. That's when Kareem hunt or some more volume than he had seen that entire season matinee. He's not afraid to use one guy. He wanted Jordan Howard to be that one guy in tree cone to be an auxiliary pass catcher here and there, but he wants a running back on the field who the defense has no idea what we're gonna do a Montgomery can work perfectly inside the passing game. I think the bears are going to be a fantastic team. They're going to be in very positive game scripts, more often than not, and David opportunity. I am very excited for for what he can do for fantasy per the bears. Showed their hand, you know that they've literally turned the cards rounded showed their hand when they drafted Montgomery because traded up for and. Because of how much they gave up to get him. It's not just means a third round pick you go. So what they had no picks to work with. They had so few picks because of the Mitchell Trubisky trade, and other other trades on the, the getting cockatiel the Khalil Mack trade. They just had no draft capital and the little draft capital. They had they said, I'm using all of it to move up, and make sure we get our guy. How does how does Mike Davis the signing in the off season and then Tariq Cohen's, you'd usage because when he runs the football. He's a four point four or carry guy. He's only probably you can only probably pencil them in for something like one hundred hundred one hundred twenty carries on the season, one hundred twenty would be the most he'd ever gotten. Well, yeah, he's a young player who's now, you know, sure, but you give a guy more carries because he earns them he had a chance lambing dares bowls. You've seen that. He said seasons where he doesn't get the ball, a ton on the ground. You had seasons where he gets it. A lot. Sure. I three Cohen, I still see him as a sub one hundred. Rushing attempt guy and for Mike Davis. It's the bears entered into the draft that they don't know what they're going to actually be able to, to do. I compare it very much to the raiders went out. They added Isaiah Crowell. They still took a first run running back now Montgomery was not a first rounder, of course. But these teams scoop up veteran players for low amounts of money because they're not one hundred percent shore. They're going to be able to get the player they want in the draft. So it's to me, even though it was very quick. It seems more like a backup plan. Now at this point to me. All right. That is it for ice and fire. Let's get into well Mike Williams teammate is featured on this next segment. That's right. Keenan Allen signed under armor, football Clete, a signed Keenan Allen Clete just sold for sixty five dollars yesterday on pristine, auction dot com doesn't get any I like I like that you're featured a few of these, like non jerseys. Brooke is there's hundreds of jerseys on their amazing. We got him on the walls, but it's cool that they have things like an atom theline pylon in a signed Clete because those were just look very unique helmets. You got images. There's all sorts cool things over there images a helmets though. Do have any I'll bet their helmet on them as they're wearing them in? Are you are you going to head to the website after the show? I'm doing it after the show. All right. That is it for today's episode of the podcast. Thank you, so much sport in the show. We're here to help you win your fantasy football leagues. And we'll be back on Tuesday, unless you're joined the foot dot. Com this afternoon. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on Twitter at the F F ballers.
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Day 122: Abner Is Killed
"Hi my name's father. Mike schmidts and you're listening to the bible in a year. Podcast we encounter. God's voice and live life through the lens of scripture the bible in the year podcast brought to you by ascension using great adventure. Bible line will read all the way from genesis to revelation discovering how the story of salvation unfolds and how we fit into that story today it is day one hundred and gosh well done you guys so good. We even second same chapter three. I chronicles chapter three and four two chapters of names. It's gonna be great. You're gonna love it. I tell you and we're also going to be praying psalm. Twenty five as always the bible translation. That i'm reading from is the revised standard version. Second catholic edition. I'm using the great adventure bible from ascension. If you want to download your own bible in a year reading plan you can visit essential press dot com slash bible in a year. You can also subscribe to this podcast in your podcast app by clicking subscribe and that would make you subscribed. It'll be great as i said. Today's one hundred day one hundred and twenty two and we're reading today. From second samuel chapter three. I chronicles chapter three and four and praying psalm. Twenty five second book of samuel chapter three abner defects. There was a long war between the house of saul and house of david and david grew stronger and stronger. While the house of saul became weaker and weaker and sons were born to david at hebron his firstborn was amnon of hinault of jezreel and second chilly of all the widow of nibble of carmel. And the third absalom. The son of macaca the daughter of i king of gesher and the fourth at denisha the son of haggett and the fifth ship attiyah the son of arbitral and the sixth at three of igla. David's wife these were born to david. In hebron while there was a war between the house of saul and the house of david abner was making himself strong in the house of saul now saul had a concubine whose name was response. The daughter of ira and a chef said to abner. Why have you gone into my father's concubine than abner was very angry over the words of a chaba sheth and said am i had dogs. Head of judah. This day. I keep showing loyalty to the house of saul your father to his brothers and his friends and have not given you into the hand of david and yet you charge me today with a fault concerning a woman god do so to abner and more also if i do not accomplish for david what the lord is sworn to him to transfer the kingdom from the house of saul and set up the throne of david over. Israel and over judah. From dan to beersheba initial breath could not answer abner another word because he feared him and abner sent messengers david at hebron sang to whom does the land belong maker covenant with me and behold my hand shall be with you to bring over all israel to you and he said good i will make a covenant with you but one thing i require of you that is you shall not see my face unless you i bring mccall so daughter when you come to see my face. Then david sent messengers to issue bishops. Saul's son saying give me my wife. Mccollough who my betrothed at the price of one hundred four skins of the philistines and distribution sent and took her from her husband. Paul tyrel the flash but her husband went with her weeping after her all the way to bow helene abner said to him go return and he returned and abner conferred with the elders of israel. Saying for some time past. You have been seeking david as king over you. Now then bring it about for the lord has promised to david saying by the hand of my servant. David i will save my people. Israel from the hand of the philistines and from the hand of all their enemies. Abner also spoke to benjamin and then abner went to tell david at hebron all that israel and the whole house of benjamin thought good to do when abner came with. Twenty men to david at hebron david made a feast for abner and the men who were with him. In abner said to david i will arise and go. And we'll gather all israel to my lord the king that they make a covenant with you and that you may rain over all that your heart desires so davidson abner away. And he went in peace. Abner is killed by joab. just then. The servants of david arrived with joab from a raid bringing much spoiled with them. But abner was not with david at hebron for he had sent him away and he had gone in peace on joab and all the army that was with him came. It was told joab abner son of earth came to the king and he has let him go and he has gone and peace and joy went to the king. And said what have you done. Behold abner came to you. Why is it that you sent him away so that he has gone. You know abner the son of nur came to deceive you and to know you're going out and you're coming in and to know all that you are doing. When job came out from david's presence. He sent messengers after abner and they brought him back from the sister of sarah but david did not know about it. And when abner returned to lebron joab took him aside into the midst of the gate to speak with him privately and there he struck him in the belly so that he died for the blood of hell his brother afterward when david heard of it he said i and my kingdom are forever guiltless before the lord for the blood of abner the son of nur may fall upon the head of joab and upon his father's house and may the house of joab never be without one who has a discharge or who's leprous or who holds a spindle or who is slain by the sword or who lacks bread so joab an average his brother slew abner because he had killed their brother hell in the battle at gideon then david said to joab into all the people who were with him till your clothes and put on sackcloth and mourn before abner and david followed the beer they buried abner at hebron and king lifted up his voice and wept at the grave of abner and all the people wept and the king lamented for abner saying should abner die as fooled. Is your hands. Were not bound. Your feet. Were not fettered as one falls before the wicked you have fallen and all the people wept again over him then. All the people came to persuade. David tweet bread while it was yet day but david swore saying god do so to me and more also if i taste bread or anything else till the sun goes down and all the people took notice of it and it pleased them as everything that the king did pleased all the people so all the people and all israel understood that day that it had not been the kings will to abner at the son of nur and the king said to his servants. Do you not know that prince and a great man has fallen this day in israel and i am this day week though anointed king these men the server why are too hard for me. The lord repay the evil doer. According to his wickedness the first book of chronicles chapter three descendants of david and solomon. These are the sons of david that were born to him in hebron the firstborn abdomen hannam the israelite tests the second daniel by abigail. The camera leykis the third absalom whose mother was maka. The daughter of ptolemy king of gesher the fourth at an idea whose mother was head with the fifth schiff attiyah by vitale. The sixth eh. Three by his wife agla six were born to him in hebron where he reigned for seven years and six months and he reigned thirty three years in jerusalem. These were born to him in jerusalem. Shimmy shebab nathan and solomon four by bath chua the daughter of ami l. Then eb har homa alert. Noga neff egg jaffe a- alicia shamma eliadah and l. affiliate nine all. These were david's sons. Besides the sons of the concubines and tamar was their sister the descendants of solomon rehbaum a by his son asa his son joe shafat his son jerome his son as his son. Joash his son amazonia his son as araya his son. Jonathan his son has his son has a kaya his son manasseh his son. Amnon his son joe cya his son. The sons of your cya john. The first born the second joachim the third zedekiah the fourth shalom the descendants of joachim giancana. His son zedekiah his son and the sons of the captive sheltie all his son. Malcolm padilla china's our jack amaya ho shaima and dia and the sons of pera so rubel bell and shamiya and the sons of zebedee bell meshulam and hanania and shila myth was later and shuba. Oh hell barack higher has a dea and jeshurun said five the sons of hanania pelata and his son raphia his son arnon his son ovadia his son. Jeff kenna the sons of chicken idea shemaya and the sense of shemaya hot tusch egal- but raya nera and shafat six. This new era elliott organi his gauge and as re come three sons of elliott ni- hoda via les shib pella kube joe hannon the lia- and une- seven chapter four descendants of judah. The sons of judah perez has run carney her and shibale isaiah. The son of chabal was the father of three and jay. Haas was the father of who my and la- had these were the families of this orbits. These were the sons of itam jezreel. Ma and Bash and the name of their sister was has little pony and panel. Was the father of guitar door and enter the father of who shah these were the sons of her the first born of africa. The father of bethlehem ash. The father of tacoma had two wives hella and ara. Nara bore him. Who's heffer timothy. And ha- hush dari. These were the sons of nahra. The sense of hella izhar and if none 'cause was the father of a new job so baba and the families of our hell the son of hiram. Jay was more honorable than his brothers and his mother called his name. Jay bez saying because i bore him in pain jabe is called on the god of israel. Saying oh you would. Bless me and enlarge my border and that your hand might be with me in that you would keep me from harm so that it might not hurt me and god granted what he asked jill lube. The brother of shusha. Was the father of mahir. Who was the father of. Ashton ashton was the father of bet rafa procedure and tina. The father of erna hush. These are the men of rica. the of keyna's off. Neil and sarah the sons of oth- neil thatthe immunotherapy miana. Thi- was the father of ofra and seraya was the father of joab. The father of gay harassed seem so called because they were craftsmen the sense of caleb. The son of jeff oona eru a la and And the sons of ila keyna's the sons of jihad al if zepa to rea- and sol. The sons of ezra jeter morad e for andrew loan. These are the sons of bit the the daughter of pharaoh whom morad married and she conceived and bore miriam shammai and ishiba. The father of s chihuahua and his jewish wife bore jared the father of guitar. Hieber the father of soco check with the l. The father of the noah the sons of the wife of dia the sister of niamh were the fathers of kyla the garment and To moa the mccarthyite. The sons of shimon amnon rena ben hanan and t lawn the sense of itchy. So health and ben izzo health the sons of sheila the son of judah or the father of la la la the father of russia and the families of the house of lyndon workers at bet ashby a- and joke him and the men of khoza and joe ash and saraf who ruled in moab and returned to them. Now the records are ancient these were the potters and inhabitants of netafim and get a raw they dwelt there with the king for his work descendants of simeon the sons of simeon nimmo l. jimmy jeb. Zehra shall chalumeau was his son. Nibs sam his son mishna son the sons of mishna hummel l. His son zocor his son schmear. His son shamir had sixteen sons and six daughters but his brothers did not have many children. Nor did we multiply like the men. Of judah they dwelt in beersheba maleta as our show. Be as tollett. Horma zik leg. Beth markov has our suzanne beth theory and our aram until david rain and their villages were at tom. I-in ramon token and five cities along with all their villages which were roundabout about these cities as far as by all these were there settlements and they kept the genealogical record. Michaud bob jim lack. Joe shaw the son of amazonia. Joel j who the son of joe sheba son of zachariah son of asi elliott ni- jock. Oba jewish i say ira ideal just email baena zepa this and of son of alone son of judea son of shimmery samaya these mentioned by name were prince in their families and their father's houses increased greatly. They journeyed to the entrance of ghidora to the east side of the valley to seek pasture for their flocks where they found rich good pasture and the land was very broad quiet and peaceful for the former inhabitants. There belonged to him. These by name came in the days of has a kaya king of judah and destroyed their tents and the maitland who were found there and exterminated them to this day and settled in their place because there was pastor there for their flocks and some of them five hundred men of this team unites. Went to mount sayer. Having as their leaders pool attire araya refire and ucla the sons of itchy and they destroyed the remnants of the allocates had escaped and they have dwelt there to this day solomon twenty-five prayer for guidance and for deliverance. A psalm of david to you lord. I lift up my soul. Oh my god in you. I trust let me not put to shame. Let not my enemies exult over me. Yes let none that. Wait for you. Be put to shame. Let them be ashamed to a wantonly. Treacherous make me to know your ways. Lord teach me your paths. Lead me in your truth and teach me for you are the god of my salvation for you. I wait all day long. Be mindful of your compassion. Lord and of your merciful love for they have been from of old remember not the sense of my youth or my transgressions. According to your mercy remember me for goodness sake. Oh lord good and upright is the lord therefore he instructs centers in the way he leads the humble in what is right. He teaches the humble his way. All the paths of the lord are mercy and faithfulness for those who keep his covenant and his testimonies for your. Name's sake oh lord. Pardon my guilt for it is great. Who is the man that fears the lord him will he instructed in the way that he should choose he himself shall abide in prosperity and his children shall possess the land. The friendship of the lord is for those who fear him and he makes known to them his covenant. My eyes are ever toward the lord for. He will pluck my feet out of the net. Turn to me and he gracious to me for. I am lonely afflicted relieved the troubles of my heart and bring me out of my distresses consider my affliction and my trouble and forgive all my sins consider how many my foes and with what violent hatred they hate me. Guard my life and deliver me. Let me not be put to shame for. I take refuge in you may integrity and uprightness preserved me for i wait for you redeem israel. Oh god out of all his troubles father in heaven giving you praise and thank you. We thank you for the difficulty of these days. Honestly god it is difficult to get through these names and just have to admit that yes they mean. Something is their powerful they're meaningful and they're difficult in that is worth noting noting that. Oh gosh lord thank you. Thank you for your word. That is rooted in history and rooted in reality ridden in people's actual stories. So all of these names is a marker is all these aims as a person all these names is an untold story. So many of the the names we have here lord our our names of people that we don't know much about other than their name and other than the fact that they were a critical to you. They were loved by you. They're known by you. And they were part of your story to redeem the world so in the difficulty lord we ask that you please give us strength and give us patients so that we can hear the words we need to hear and we can be come the people you want to become in jesus name we pray amen in the name of the father son. Holy spirit amen. Brother yeesh okay so i don't know if they were difficult for you. We have a couple more chapters with us and it's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. My friends is going to be fine But not only we had. I chronicles with a bunch of names. Where so good. In fact i truly am saying this is not just. I'm trying to psych myself up for this getting in more into the names but it is a grace complete grace to be able to hear. Here are the stories of the people that are going to factor in to the rest of the story for example we have the descendants of david and of solomon. Now we're going to we. Might you might not know all of the stories of all these people but solomon has a number or david's number sons. Obviously we talked about amnon. This crossover happy god incident. Right the crossover. Between second same chapter three in i chronicles chapter three. Because the list of david's children is in second same as three and i chronicles chapter. Three is so good. Because if you struggled with some of those names like amnon and high noam and abigail in daniel and epsilon telhami all of them these people these sons of david and one daughter talk about tamer are going to be very very important as the story. In second samuel contents continues to unfold and then when we get to solomon the story of kings is gonna be unfolding in that so so good and him and all those are the names so they might not mean a ton a ton to you right now but they mean a ton in the larger scheme of things in fact not only. We're going to follow this whole line of david and solomon and rehbaum in the all the rest of them when it comes to the book of kings were also gonna find their stories of these guys. The stories of these kings not necessarily the story of a lot of really really great kings. And so we're just praise god for the ability to hear their stories here their names more than once but when it comes back to second samuel just one quick note on second samuel chapter three what we have. We have this story this tragic story really of how david recognizes that he can enter into a agreement of sorts and agreements with abner. Now abner was accused by shiva. Sheth right salsa son for taking one of saul's concubines as his own i've some commentaries and indicated that there's not necessarily any reason why abner who seems like a pretty upstanding guy. He seems like a pretty solid individual any reason why that would be the truth but because it should tham would see abner a threat that he will have to make up some kind of accusation against him. Now that may be the case might not be the case either way would lead to his abner then going to david and saying basically. Hey let's make peace. I i can. I'll be willing to fight for you and make sure that you are the king over all of israel. David says that sounds great. Let them go in peace and what happens member. We talked with us yesterday. Violence begets violence. And so joab finds out that abner was just there remember from the day before from the chapter before member. There's three brothers shy. Asa hell and joab and abner had killed us a now. He killed as a hell in defense. He killed him in battle as it was straightforward. Kind of real thing. Here there shouldn't be any desire for revenge. And yet joab takes gives into his desire for revenge and he kills abner. This highly decorated general. This person that many many people in all of his real would have known him they would have been a very very prominent figure and respected figure now. Looks like it. Looks like david and invited abner to his his home and then he called him back and then joab kills him. So what david does is genius and is just shows again. David's character it's genius because unites all the people and it's it shows davis character because it's the right thing to do. Were david publicly. Mourns the death of enemy. David publicly mourns. The death of abner. Any actually even instructs the murderer joab himself and his brother he instructs them both to wear sackcloth and to tear their garments. Everyone he says we're all gonna do this including the guys who murdered abner and all the people saw this and they recognized. Yeah david he's a good leader. He's a good leader because he has his character and he's wise and there's something so good about this as said please all the people everything that david had done a please the people because david any showed his the depth of who has that kind of leader he was and the kind of human he was. And that's just such a gift to be able to mourn for ones enemies Because it would have been wiser for david to have made that enemy a friend. And that's what he wanted to do in the first place anyways for us. The same thing is true. It is off and more beneficial. It's were called to let those enemies become friends not because we need to trust people who aren't trustworthy but because to have an open door to people who might be able to come back home might be able to be reconciled. Might be able to be forgiven and to do that. We need wisdom. 'cause you don't wanna be taken for a fool. We can't trust people who aren't trustworthy and yet abner here seemed like a trustworthy person so there are people in our lives who i in my life. Maybe that have hurt. And so i need to be careful. I can't trust them because they they hurt. People around them hurt me. So i can't just trust them but there are others. That may be have hurt me. But i can grow entrust again and the cycle of violence can maybe end with me in my heart. So we pray for each other. So that that cycle of allen's ends in our hearts and that forgiveness can be offered from our hearts and reconciliation can be offered from hearts. We pray we need. God's grace to be that so i'm brain for you. Please pray for me. My name's father. I can't wait to see you. Tomorrow god bless.
Teacher and Soccer Coach Sent Explicit Photos to Student; New Jobs in Duluth; Arrest in Fatal Hit & Run
"Welcome to the gwinnett. Daily post podcast. Today is friday march twelfth actress and singer. Liza minelli seventy five today. I'm dan rak live in here. Your top stories brought to you by kia mall of georgia. A former flowery branch high school teacher and girls. Soccer coach has been arrested for sending explicit photos to a student a clearer path for georgia children to receive medicaid passes the general assembly. A south korean company has opened an office in duluth that will support the s k battery america plant in jackson county covert nineteen. Vaccines will be available soon. For georgians ages fifty five up and those with health issues georgia lawmakers voted along party lines as federal covid nineteen aid gains final passage and second suspect in the fatal swannee hit and run has been arrested by gwinnett county deputies and us marshals plus which gwinnett county schools will be playing for the high school basketball state championship. Would daily post sports editor. Will hammock will join us for that and more we We already had hebron girls basketball team in the championship game. They won the state championship so one state championship The boys will be planned saturday night. for the basketball title The jc girls will be playing friday night and then the gwinnett he wheelchair basketball team will be playing saturday afternoon. why by kia mall of georgia. We provide award winning. Customer satisfaction have been a family owned business for over twenty years buying or leasing with us as fast and easy and you can get pre approved online and four simple steps. We offer top dollar on trade ins and have new vehicle specials that are every month and are factory trained technicians make servicing your vehicle convenient with extended service hours. Stop by and shop with us on the lot or visit us online at love dot com a duluth resident and the head coach for flowery branch high school girls. Soccer program has been arrested on that. He sent a sexually explicit photographs to one of his students. Twenty five year old. Matthew tyler stubs was arrested tuesday. The official charge against him is one count of electronically furnishing obscene material to a minor in addition to serving as the head coach for the girls soccer team. Mr stubb's was also a special education teacher with the school. School officials found out about the incident earlier this week and placed mr stubb's on leave before calling the sheriff's office about the matter and deputies are still investigating. Low income children in georgia are set to soon have an easier path to collecting medicaid benefits under legislation that passed out of the general assembly. The bill would create an express lane for families eligible for food stamps to be automatically enrolled in georgia medicaid program rather than having to fill out separate paperwork pending approval from the federal government. The automatic enrollment would allow an estimated sixty thousand medicaid eligible children who receive food stamps to also joined the joint state federal health program according to the nonprofit advocacy group georgians for a healthy future. The bill passed the state. Senate unanimously on wednesday after advancing out of the georgia house of representatives last month also by unanimous vote. It now heads to governor. Brian kemp's desk for his signature. The s k group joined georgia and gwinnett county officials to announce the opening of an office for the company's it services branch and duluth s k c and c opened. Its office in the spectrum office building. Which is located at premier parkway within the sugarloaf community improvement district the total. It service office will be focused on providing information technology services for s k affiliates such as s k battery america which is currently building an electric vehicle battery plant in jackson county. The new office in duluth is expected to generate fifteen new jobs and represents a one point eight million dollar investment by s k group in the duluth area s group is a south korea based company. That has more than forty five hundred employees around the world governor. Brian kemp announce jordan's ages fifty five and older as well as those with a variety of health issues will be eligible for covid nineteen vaccine starting next monday amid a recent boost and supplies vaccines could also potentially be available for all georgia adults. Starting next month. If the current number of shots that federal officials are sending weekly to the state continues to increase as it has in recent weeks along with adults fifty five years and older vaccines will open up starting march fifteenth to georgians with health conditions including cancer moderate to severe asthma heart conditions diabetes. Cystic fibrosis liver disease. Copd chronic kidney disease cerebrovascular disease and compromised immune systems the newly eligible georgians. Add to a growing list of vaccine eligible people including school teachers and staff healthcare workers nursing home residents and staff first responders those with mental and behavioral health issues parents of children with medical conditions and people ages sixty five and older has the time. Come for you and your family to buy or sell a new home. Peggy slap properties here to help peggy and the team have been gannett and surrounding areas for thirty eight years. Helping folks just like you and me. Peggy slapped you. Properties consist of more than thirty five relievers that realized fostering strong relationships with community is the key to their business. They work with you. Regardless of circumstance residential homes are newly built they have listings all over the county in today's climate. You hear a lot of noise from others on how they can help you. 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Earning up to seventy five thousand dollars a year and couples earning up to one hundred fifty thousand dollars annually. An extension of three hundred dollars per week in unemployment benefits aid to state and local governments funds to help schools reopen safely and an expanded federal child tax credit it also provides new funding for small businesses through the paycheck protection program and additional funding to administer kobe. Nineteen vaccines and expand testing and contact. The second of two suspects in the death of a man who was killed in a hit and run accident in swannee in november has been arrested by gwinnett county deputies and us marshals eighteen year. Old decatur resident tavis. Areso lohman was picked up by deputies marshals on wednesday mr lohman and fifteen year. Old jaffar d hunter. Junior are accused of killing. Sugarhill resident christian gutierrez on november. Seventh davis was arrested on felony murder theft by shoplifting and second degree burglary charges. Jaffar was taken into custody on felony murder and felony theft by shoplifting. Charges back in november lohman hunter were allegedly stealing items from a walmart located at lawrenceville. Swannee road on november seven and ran out of the store when a loss prevention officer tried to confront them. The pair allegedly got into a u haul van in the parking lot and fled the scene but struck gutierrez and drug him onto satellite boulevard in the process who tiaras passed away at the scene. Gwinnett daily post sports editor will hamic joins us now on the podcast to tell us which county schools will be playing for the high school basketball state championship. There we We already had hebron girls basketball team in the championship game. They won the state championship so already got one one state championship. Hearing the boys will be plan. Saturday night for the basketball title The jc girls will be playing friday night and then the gwinnett he wheelchair basketball team will be playing Saturday afternoon for the championship. So what a lot of titles on the line this week will tell me about. How burke more made their way to the state championship game. I think As a very good win for birth mother in the semifinals. There's a lot of excitement going on over there. The first time they've been to the championship game and twenty years. But it's a it was a great win over mickie tranessa mckee team that already Beat grayson a state title favourite and it'd be collinsville to seniors. That are big time players. Going to georgia and arkansas course a clutch winning free. Throw the game into the game by dustin logan to get victory margin. Have a tough time in the finals. I get the number one team in the state In milton it's going to be an interesting matchup played earlier in the season. They were closed on the fourth quarter before milton one by eight points in early season. Match up on a showcase at shiloh will hamic as a sports editor at the gwinnett. Daily post will tell me about the hebron girls and they won a state championship pretends game on pretty close. All the way thought haven't won in regulation on a couple of clutch free throws bhai saint francis senate but they're seniors lead the way The seniors malina fisher nicole lazard in carly hydro May big place down the stretch and not game I think me by leading candidate player of the year. She had another big game despite battle on foul trouble. She was huge. Nicola couple of big threes in that game. Ancarlo high Huge overtime so a great great win win for the hebron lines i state championship and be interesting to see how they rebuild. Well other than basketball. What's going on around the county. Yeah this weekend's a little bit of light weekend greenwich schools are out out of school on friday. So it's not not a ton of games going on but there is a really interesting lacrosse girls. Lacrosse game on friday mill creek and mountain view. A couple of the top two teams in gwinnett when it comes to girls across they both have A handful of college players on both sides and the tradition of of winning on both sides being so close together. That's good robbery. Lacrosse games looking forward to that. One on friday. And then i think next week. There's always some big soccer match ups. I couldn't and peachtree ridge on tuesday that salani rivals and the boys and girls games. I think we'll be interesting there. When north of peachtree rich go head to head back thanks for listening to the gwinnett. Daily post podcast. This podcast is a production of bgi group. Please like follow and subscribe wherever you get your podcast.
BFD: Lent Day 20: Monday after the Third Sunday in Lent The Condemnation of Christ.
"Praised be Jesus Christ now and forever. You're listening to father. Richard Clarke daily Catholic daily meditations for lent presented by the bellum inform. Let's pray father and a son and the Holy Spirit Almond sorrowful mother. Mary pray for us to obtain the spirit of humility confidence and persistency to make a good meditation on the passion of Our Lord. This has lent day twenty Monday after the third Sunday in lent the condemnation of Christ. Listen to the words of the Gospel. According to Saint Mark in the high priest rising up in the midst asked Jesus saying interest thou nothing to the things that are laid to charge by these men but he held his peace and answered nothing again. The high priest asked him and said to Him Art Thou the Christ the son of the blessed God and Jesus said to him I am and you shall see the son of man sitting on the right hand of the power of God and coming with the clouds of Heaven then the high priest renting garment Sayeth. What need we any further witnesses? You have heard the blasphemy. What thank you who all condemned him to be guilty of death number one in the midst of the false witnesses and they're lying testimony. Jesus remained silent. The high priest angry impatient urges him to reply answer is thou nothing to the things which these witnesses against the still Jesus answers not a word. How different from our eager. Anxiety to answer every accusation and every word of blame. How much better if we could hold our peace. After the example of Jesus number two at length the high priest rises and asks a direct question they he summons Christ in the name of God too declared the truth. I enjoy by the living. God that Thou tell us if thou be the Christ. The son of God ordered by authority. Jesus at once says I'm in one day I shall come in power of God that is now entrusted to you as the high priest of God another lesson for us. We must obey authority even where he who carries it shamefully abuses it for those in authority like. Kaya speak in their official capacity as in the place of God number three when Christ declares himself to be the son of God the High Priest in the council rise indignantly to protest against such blasphemy. In this they are the type of modern heretics. Who accused the Church of God? In the Vicar of Christ of Blasphemous League Usurping Divine Prerogatives Pride and jealousy. And Self love so blinded the eyes of the San Hebron that they called good evil and evil good condemned the son of God the death because he told them the truth. My God preserve me from ever being thus blinded by sin. Hail Mary full of grace. The Lord is with the blessed are Dow amongst women and blessed is the fruit with I wound. Jesus Holy Mary. Mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death on n Mary Mother of Our Lord. Pray for us to have a desire to please your son our Lord. Jesus by our lent that we may rejoice with you in his resurrection at Easter. And in the life to calm the. Bellman form is a nonprofit public charity and this program is distributed for the greater glory of God the Bellman form supported by donations that are tax deductible. Donation details are available on the website. Bellarmine FORUM DOT Org.
#637 Live Looking to God (2 Samuel 2:1)
"Pre the word with David Platt is a resource from radical dot net. Second Samuel chapter two verse one after this David inquired of the Lord, shall I? Go up into any of the cities of Judah and the Lord said to him go up David said to which I go up and he said to Hebron. I love the Spitzer particularly in light of what we looked at in the podcast episode on I same chapter twenty eight and Saul taking things into his own hands under the guise of wanting to know the direction of God, the first thing David does here in second Samuel to as prepares to be anointed king is he inquires of the Lord he goes to God and says what shall I do where shall I? Go you lead me, you guide me. I am looking to you. This is the posture that God has called you and meet the live in today. Like to live looking to God lead me guide me direct me in everything. I do this is why it's why just think time with the Lord in the morning. At least some kind of time. Maybe you have more concentrated time with God later in the day or in the evening, but some kind of time Lord with the morning where you just fix your eyes on God and say, I I need you to lead me today. And one of the things I try to do each day most days in my time with the Lord in the morning is just walk through the day as best as I know. What's coming, which I I know? Yeah. Most days don't go as you plan. But I might know. Okay. These things are on my schedule. And no, maybe around these people, I know I'm going to be in this place. And so I just pray through every detail that I know that's coming in my day. And just pray. God. Please lead me. Please guide me. Please direct me when I'm in this meeting, please please God a wanna make decisions on a speak in this meeting in a way that is in tune with your spirit in your words. So help me in that way Godwin. I'm having lunch with this person. Got. Helped me to encourage them. What can I do? How can I best encourage them in Christ? God how how can I best lead my family today? How can I best maximize this time at home that I have with my wife, and my kids tonight, whatever it might be just to say got him looking to you you lead me, you guide me where do you want me to go? What do you want me to do? Please direct. My every step, please direct my every word. So I just want to encourage you to live like that to pray like that. Let's pray like that. Now, God, we've fix our eyes on you. You are our Lord. You are shepherd, and we are so thankful you are. We are so thankful you are shepherd. You are leader you are guide in life. You are the director of our lives. So we look to you. We inquire of you much like David did here, we inquire of you in small things as we're going throughout our day in big things is we have big decisions to make Godwin Guaira view. I think about big decisions I'm trying to make right now. And God, I'm just bleeding for your help. What do you me to do show me? What you want me to do? Then trust that you will lead. I trust that you will guide. We praise you right now for your faithfulness to lead us and guide us, you direct as you've given us your very spirit inside of us. You give us your word before us. Oh god. Thank you for the way. You lead us and guide us for your word that we've. Got sixty six books. God. Thank you. Thank you for this gift view. Revelation to us that guides our lives, and then for your spirit inside of us to apply that word to direct our thoughts, and our desires and our actions and our decisions. Oh god. Phillips with your spirit. We pray and help us to walk in obedience to your word and total step with your spirit. So we inquire of you right now. Oh god. Please help us. Please lead us. How do you want us to live today? How do you want us to speak today? How do you want us to love today? And we pray that you will lead and guide us to live to speak to act to love as you. Call us to today and we trust. This will bring you glory others. Good and us Choi. Oh, God, we pray this in Jesus name. Amen.