18 Burst results for "Heather mcghee"

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

02:28 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

"She had a moment where she recognize like Oh. Yeah, this is what it feels like to be black to be a scared all the time. Yeah, you know I don't mind this dose of it to help me understand like what with the stress of that right is? But as I think you said in the INTRO BUT WE'RE GONNA keep up the CONDO. Because I think that's maybe more important than any of. It is not letting the ball drop. On these kind of conversation, we'll also were hard wired for the last fifteen years in this. Cable News News Cycle, which is twenty hours a day, and you need to feed the fire, and so we get blasted than we get fatigued. There's a new issue five minutes later. Revolving door of issues. Then you people feel like they don't have the bandwidth to care about all the stuff or be involved in all this stuff and. This is we have to all collectively fight to not be a new cycle, and to be a really sustained movement. Ray. Hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, we're GONNA be a fucking. Kick ASS expert. Had this not been going on Oh one hundred dollars. Well, the truth is this is always going on Oh yeah you know and like I mean like? Mass protests yeah, the protests are new, but the issues are so old, and this is kind of kicking us into gear, which is a good thing that's literally the point of I think the stuff is to make people aware who are kind of just going about their life. Just myself for sure I'd also recommend up. Minimally watch thirteen on Netflix's such a powerful documentary that gives you real real sense of the time line from slavery to reconstruction to Jim Crow mass incarceration. Seeing dot so closely connected and recognizing like you know this notion now we'll. Slavery ended a hundred and fifty years ago and it's like well. Yeah that that part did end, and then all these other things came in conveniently immediately to perpetuate the same thing so. That's a great great documentary of some wants to get a historical context with why we are where we're at. Home. or a much loved everyone be safe. Let me guys..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

04:56 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

"That's a lot and yet it's not treated as you know in this democracy. If you're saying this, it's probably worse acting on and there's this strange sense. It's like no, you're a special group. You're saying something that is suspect shouldn't be treated as truth. It should be treated yours objective demands as opposed to. You know everybody would like to be going on with their lives. People don't WanNa. Be Out in the street. PEOPLE DON'T WANNA be camping out at standing rock. We're still not giving the multiracial parts of our democracy and the benefit of the doubt of their concerns I think something that's happening. You see you keep going back and forth on social media, or there's people calling on the media to show the stories that are positive. Amplifying the ones that are negative I think that's really relevant, but even within that I've found frustration and they're not. They're not even making a distinction between there are people protesting? A group of people and there's people looting and the protesters aren't looting. There's people that are looting, and then there's protesters as there are also these plants, clearly from these right wing organizations that are destroying property to make the protesters look bad, so so there's a lot of things happening out there and there's a lot of film that can be edited in any numerous ways to tell any story in a very compelling way that most people are going to be defenseless against. So I'm enjoying the call out on the media. What are your thoughts on that? Oh Yeah, you know I mean listen I'm worried. Fundamental level about the compatibility between Cable News and a multiracial democracy is just like the incentives to hate and fear division and resentment and micro targeting an argument are just too strong like the commercial incentives are too strong, and obviously we're talking about foxes who like perfected the model, but you know story in The Times yesterday that they're considering making CNBC like a business persons Fox News. And it's like great. In like we're just GONNA go up. And so anyway. Yes, call up the Cable News. Even though you know I'm absolutely part of the cable. News infrastructurally for now in that I, you know I go on TV I have a contract with NBC. Give my opinions. So what do I think is the story of.

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

04:37 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

"They're white people on the front of the House and Brown people bussing right like walk up to a bar and there's a let you know man. You assume he's not the bartender. You try to treat them. Mike the Bartender and he's like no I'm not the bartender. You know it's that kind of economic segregation that has nothing to anyone, capacity, or even language skill, or whatever it's just a racist structure, so that's one of those things that I think is blind fought for lots of people and not just white people. I think another blind spot is. When we look at the the highest hotspots actually right now in the country for the pandemic that is still ongoing. It's actually a native American communities in Indian country and. Just the original sin of the theft in the near genocide of native people and The fact that we don't acknowledge the land we're on. that. We don't know who slander on and that we don't listen. When? Indians who are still here are telling us what we need to do. Like stupid shit like not have the nation's Capitol's team be called. The redskins not do that. We're GONNA Heather. What would I do with MY JERSEY? Are you gonNA reimburse me a on it for like a hundred times more than it's worth. White, nationalist would collect. It might go up in value. And then donate that money wouldn't serve. The other demands which are pleased. Protect our water. Because hello, it's also for you can stop poising. Yourself is what they're saying to us, you know. So I think there's a there's a way in which we Monica. You said it so well when you talked about the benefit of the Dow. The when? Communities of color say this is unjust unfair and we're just trying to go through our lives, and we don't want to be dealing with this any more than you do, but we're going to actually raise our voices as one to project. A set of concerns and demands to the broader political structure..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

01:57 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

02:15 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

"Hippies. Black, people right who were doing drugs. They thought if we could. We could do something about these drugs. We could do something about these people so i. think about it very much. I think about Chicago and what happened to make this cultural violence that is unrecognizable to me as someone whose family many of them still live outside. So. There's that there's also. The point that. When you are. In an area that is chronically disinvested. Where the jobs the good jobs, the manufacturing jobs, the factory jobs have been stripped away traded away and sent to places where they're Brown people that you can pay even less. There does often become a new economic system that is not blessed by the state. And what we've seen, and what a lot of white conservatives like Charles Murray or sort of you know bringing their hands, about is the exact same thing that started in the cities with the industrial jobs leaving, and then the crime rate's going up in the marriage rates going down the people turning to drugs is happening in white rural areas. It's just that those factories started closing. You know ten fifteen years later. It's not something about black people. It's something about the conditions young. To the idea that race. Fundamentally shapes you are on a almost biological level. Yeah, like you have a character, yes. Yeah Stay tuned for more armchair. If you, dare. We are supported by pushy. Monica your favorite product. Need this. We need especially when there's a run on toilet paper, you need something to clean. Those bonds in other areas without a massive amount of tissue seems like everyone is checking in nowadays. How are how you holding up? Hope? You're hanging in there, but his anyone asking about your butthole with the teepee shortage and all the extra snacking. You've been doing. Your bottle is going through a lot. Luckily, someone has been keeping your behind in mind. Meet pushy. The Modern Day attachment that cleans your, but with a direct spray of cleansing water..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

05:55 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

"You know more than half of black people have lost their jobs, and so many of us know people who have lost their lives, because of things that could have been prevented could have been prevented. And there's all these like kind of known data about the bias. The police bias right also like they intuitively assume that black children are older than they are, which is like a its own weird nominal right they. They. They're Yeah I. DON'T UNDERSTAND WHA! What why? What is behind? You know the explanation that I. Don't I'm so we were? Able to minute so I. Don't know if it was crappy. Monica set a racial slur towards. Actually did. You. Just said want. WHY DOES DAX? Exist back. On the product of his white male patriarch, it's not my fault. Let's go back to that white story, right? That white story is. You're innocent. And What is the Pinnacle of innocence is childhood? And, so if innocence is something that sort of belongs to Whiteness then the white mind that has been swimming in that white story for so long is going to look at a Black Child Nas see. The innocence. Nazi the youth, and and then support three strikes, laws and punishing juveniles as adults right like that that story than supports a law that then changes people's lives. Okay now. This is not my opinion, but I'd be remiss to not give you an opportunity to debunk. CA This thought process right so there are some folks that would say. A lot of the data says that interactions with police result in shootings by police that interacting with polices dangerous if you're white or black. And that the increased interactions is going to increase the outcome of a shooting or a killing at the hands of a police officer. So there are gonNA. Be People that say well. The crime rate is higher in these urban centers and the people in those communities are GonNa really interact more with police officers, because police officers are focused on the highest crime areas, so what part of that reality is part of the problem? And what would you say to the people that are that are going to point that out 'cause they're gonNA point that out. For sure you know I grew up in a part of the country on Senator Cargo, but I don't recognize anymore because of how it's devolved into violence, but criminologists would say that that violence was incubated in created in our prisons and jails and asthma's incarceration. For those who haven't read the new Jim Crow by Michelle. Alexander I would be remiss, not recommending it, but Schumann's me of a time that I certainly don't have any memory of and seems hard to even fathom where before the war on drugs they were saying. We're not actually going to build more prisons because the crime rate is not so bad and we know that it doesn't work. We know that jail in prison doesn't work what it's really good at is making more crime. So and then for reasons that we now know worry about political and social control. The Nixon administration came up with the idea. Of a war on drugs that was really a war on the sort of social foam into the young people and people who were never going to be part of his electoral coalition, the.

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

05:46 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

"You're targeted by alcohol and cigarettes. You're targeted by all these corporations. There's this machine creating huge disadvantage and then the result of that right. Right once you're a twenty three year old male in the result of that the last interface for that is the police so there the furthest down river in the equation in what could be a very short, young black man or woman's life, and so the last stop is the police which is fucked up. It is fucked up the reaction of the police. them, killing between two and four times the amount that they're killing white people all undeniable, but also in complete in my opinion, is that make any sense? We'd love to just go. The problem in our country right now is racist cops great? Let's solve that and we haven't solved anything. We've solved the last stop of it. In a hundred terrible things that'll happen to young black man. It is one of one hundred, but have no illusion that if we have the perfect Utopian Police Department that we still don't have a humongous problem, so I agree with you probably. Don't know what percentage let's keep talking I. Forget what you said at the end for sure that solving the police will not solve our problems, but I wanna be specific about what the problem is so I think. A big part of the white store is actually that black people are a problem and it was like black people are a problem before for like really explicitly racist reasons, and now in our day it's evolved a black people in the problem because things outside of their control probably like. Poverty and segregation that schools and all of that, but we're still a problem, and so that's why I want to make sure that we're both recognizing that that is itself not true right? There's actually so much more..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

05:47 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

"That is what people shouldn't have. You shouldn't have white privilege, but that's not because you shouldn't have the privilege of feeling like you can walk down the street without being shot by the cops. You shouldn't have white privilege because everybody should have that privilege. Yes, yes, often when this topic comes up, I always say like I think a lot of people are thinking about it wrong, which is we? Our goal shouldn't be that people give that up. The goal should be that everyone. Has that like that's the goal yet to challenge that zero sum notion that if you somehow include this group into having the same privileges you do that, you won't have it either. It's like no. No everyone should have it. I also tried to make the distinction when we talk about white privilege, because it does trigger so many people because they think that phrase means. If you're white. You are a privileged person. I always say no just fundamentally in this country. Being white is a privilege. We have all these boxes of privilege. White is a really big one, and you get to check that box. If you're white, it doesn't mean you're rich or you just immediate opportunity or whatever it just means. You know in that video of the kids racing across the line like you are a few steps forward starting out based on nothing that you've done and that based on nothing that you've done a really important point, because part of the the white story that is sold. You know that people can sort of choose to buy or not choose to buy some parts of Granada, a part of the story and part of where the privileged becomes problematic is. If you believe that you are in this place of security from the hell, because of something you've done, you deserve our narrate I remember I was shopping my book proposal around. You know to mostly white editors, agents and stuff like that, and this one person was like you read. The book proposal was like yeah, but I want you to know basically. I'm a good white person. We start this meeting. I love, Tiger Woods and Obama just want to let you know and love Tiger Woods and Obama. Very! Christmas and she said my father fought for civil rights. She also wanted me to know that there are no skeletons in her closet, right. She said I think the white people in the past. Who discriminated were? nother since juicy like. Let's get into this right. I think they absolutely did evil things. But it's very easy for you to think that you would have thought they were evil back then. That's part of the white story. Right is that we are good. There was a white story version of slavery that is these people are such savages and such heathens. Getting them into our productive society is good for them. Yeah they! They were going Oh. You think they were better off in the jungle being attacked by a lion. That's you think that's an improvement. Yeah, by the way we'll get into this debate all the time about in La. If you just look at WHO's doing the work, no one wants to talk about it but the. The only people don't work or Latinos and I say all the time we're GONNA. Look back on this. I'll have so many people know they left. Mexico, is much worse. There and they came here and I'm like. Yes, but you understand that's the identical argument to the slave owners. You just can't deny that. Justify any by comparison. Somehow it's an improvement, but it stops short of going. Why don't you have to do that work? You know there's there's something to be answered there and you might if it were being paid fifty bucks an hour. Fatty you're you're? You're pointing out the dehumanisation? It's actually essential..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

03:27 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

"Now, here's where I'll walk a dangerous line so it. CanNot be explicit enough in saying I am not making any kind of equivalency comparison. I'm not saying that it's anywhere on par, but I am saying quite often Monica when we talk about this I happen to be from a very wide trash area where I. I've interviewed ory. You can just say poor might be maybe I don't know. It's relevant because that white trash. Town is a label how to label. Had An expectation had a frequency of getting pulled over. When you're driving through town, you look at the side of the road. It wasn't the Nice car. It was always the piece of Shit cars all this to say. When I interviewed fifty cent and I heard his story when interviewed Ti I heard his story I actually thought. Wow, my best friend. Air Weekly has way more in common with tip in fifty. Then he does in a lot of the people I've interviewed only to say I. Think there's so much more. Brotherhood. In the economic disparity that exists now there is a huge color of your skin element, and on denying it, and once I can say for myself yet came from that, but still I walk into starbucks, and a black guy walks into starbucks. Different outcome I can transcend it way easier but I do think there's a lot of shared struggled among just the lower income people you know, then then maybe we recognize I agree and I think that that reality of sheriff's struggle and the potential for shared fight. Against the people who are actually setting the rules to make it so hard for way, black, Brown and everybody else. Who are you know working class to get ahead? Ease why you have. The persistent reinvention of racism for every generation, because you just described sort of an economic world in which. You know you're at the bottom of the social. You're poverty is visible. You're definitely don't have the opportunities. Don't have the financial cushion of fall back on college is been priced out of reach now. Even though it's the ticket to the middle class, you have to be middle class to be able to afford it. It's like. You know this is the system. We're in right now and the thing that makes. I think a white working class person, not completely in the same shoes as a black or brown working class person is the. Police state. That that is the difference right? Police State of immigration or the police state of criminal justice and police in, and that's why this is where there's so much pain and struggle that very old original ability of the state to snatch away your life. That is three times as likely to happen. If you are black than if you're white, no matter what your can come and. That is where also frankly this is where I think. We need to understand privilege better. You know I try to put myself in the shoes right. If if I had the privilege of not having that fear of not having my son had that fear have a toddler congratulations, not having my son. That beer. You know if I had that privilege I would put some value on it right because it's the safety of my son. And here's where I think we misunderstand privileged, because we act like privileges something.

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

03:27 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

"Now here's where I'll walk a dangerous line so it. CanNot be explicit enough in saying I am not making any kind of equivalency comparison. I'm not saying that it's anywhere on par, but I am saying quite often Monica when we talk about this. I happen to be from a very wide trash area where I. I've interviewed ory. You can just say poor might be. Maybe I don't think. It's relevant because that white trash. Town is La. How label had an expectation had a frequency of getting pulled over. When you're driving through town, you look at the side of the road. It wasn't the Nice car. It was always the piece of Shit cars all this to say when I interviewed fifty cent and I heard his story when I interviewed Ti. I heard his story. I, actually thought. Wow, my best friend. Air Weekly has way more in common with tip in fifty. Then he does in a lot of the people I've interviewed only to say I. Think there's so much more. Brotherhood. In the economic disparity that exists now there is a huge color of your skin element, and on denying it, and once I can say for myself yet came from that, but still I walk into starbucks and a black guy walks into starbucks. Different outcome I can transcend it way easier but I do think there's a lot of shared struggled among just the lower income people you know, then then, maybe we recognize I agree, and I think that that reality of sheriff's struggle and the potential for shared fight. Against the people who are actually setting the rules to make it so hard for way, black, Brown and everybody else. Who are you know working class to get ahead? Ease why you have. The persistent reinvention of racism for every generation, because you just described sort of an economic world in which. You know you're at the bottom of social. You're poverty is visible. You're definitely. Have the opportunities. Don't have the financial cushion of fall back on college is been priced out of reach now. Even though it's the ticket to the middle class, you have to be middle class to be able to afford it. It's like. You know this is the system. We're in right now and the thing that makes. I think a white working class person, not completely in the same shoes as a black or brown working class person is the. Police state. That that is the difference right? Police State of immigration or the police state of criminal justice and police in, and that's why this is where there's so much pain and struggle that very old original ability of the state to snatch away your life. That is three times as likely to happen. If you are black than if you're white, no matter what your can come and. That is where also frankly this is where I think. We need to understand privilege better. You know I. Try to put myself in the shoes right? If if I had the privilege of not having that fear of not having my son had that fear, i. have a toddler congratulations, not having my son. That beer. You know if I had that privilege I would put some value on it right because it's the safety of my son. And here's where I think we misunderstand privileged, because we act like privileges something.

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

05:44 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

"Don't want to offend anyone. I don't want to appear to be defending the status quo, and within all that my nature is to challenge some of the current assumptions of what the problem is, versus what the causes causality I'm interested in the very big big pitcher in general and I'm always very very interested in how. How far upstream can we get to solve this problem? Right and so your focus being on the economy I appreciate a lot because there's so many variables in this situation and I'd like to explore many of them in a also fearful to do that I'm not asking you to feel bad for the the White Guy I'm just saying. The stakes are high and I'm going to try my darnedest. Nervousness real quick sure because I do think a big feeling right now is like I. Don't WanNa. Make any mistakes. Even the this is just like the the most trivial example of this so everyone today is doing blackout Tuesday and everyone was posting black pitcher on their instagram and. A bunch of people started last night, so I posted my last night and everyone was posting hash type, black lives, matter, and then I wake up this morning. Everyone's like oh my. God removed the Hashtag delete your post. It's messing with the Algorithm. Take it out repos blackout. Tuesday, and I was like Oh my God, and it feels like it. There is so much your blood on your hands Monica. Yes. And I about to be honest I'm also like. Is this even something? We should be doing I thought the whole point was for us to be talking and speaking up and standing up and now we're like S- quote silent. I don't even understand really the point of this, but there's really no leader, so there's no one posting anything saying okay. This is what you do tomorrow. This is what you don't do. Tomorrow and people are just making. Decisions there's. Starting to get involved, which of course for a lot of us is like oh? Yes, thank you, please help. The whole like underlying issue is that we don't understand so that there's going to be so many mistakes and I get scared psychologically for people who aren't like made a mistake, I can fix it. I can weather that, but some people like I'm from Georgia. Who I'm like. If they did that, they would just delete the post and be like I. CAN'T I'm I'm on, do it? You know like it scares me that it's going. Going to sway people away. Yeah so I. think There's so much in that so first of all like the highest upstream may be axed to what you're saying I think in general on issues of how do we get right and solve racial justice and reorder our society in a way that is commensurate with our values. What we are suffering from is in many ways, another part of that White American story, which is very individualistic and everyone sort of like go to the marketplace. Pick what you want. Do Your own. Thank whereas this country needs. But. Racism wasn't invented in individual shopping cart. Way Racism was invented as a Todo economic political and ideological system by the most powerful, and then it was infused in all of our laws, and all of our social interactions through loss right laws said I have literally not allowed to sell a black person, my house it is in the contract right I am not allowed to sit in that part of the bus I'm not allowed to go to school with that person so at least widely land this person money as a banker. Yeah, exactly. Exactly so these were like individual ideas, and yet we've left the task of solving I think now to various weird free market, individual consumerist way whereas I, believe strongly that what we need is something like what.

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

04:33 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

"Welcome welcome welcome to armchair expert experts on expert. I'm Dan Shepard I'm joined by Monica Monsoon. Well, you know. We had a lineup this week. We're going to have linus more set on Monday and we didn't do that. You wrote a beautiful thing explaining that, and then we had another expert of course scheduled for today, but we changed that out with a more relevant expert to what's happening right? Right now all around the country in response to George Floyd in the police brutality. Today we have heather mcghee. Heather is someone who's worked with economic policy and the government level. She was the president of Demos, She's a UC Berkeley law school graduate, and has a BA from Yale and she has a wonderful perspective and I really really really urge everyone to watch her ted talk which. which is entitled? Racism has a cost for everyone and armed Jerry's please watch. Racism has a cost everyone. She's three thousand views shy of a million and I think that US arm cherries can get hurt to two million. That's my goal for her and for us, so please check out. Racism has a cost for everyone on Youtube. This will be the first of many podcasts that we're going. Going to dedicate to this issue as we try to learn more figure out what we can do to help, yeah, we don't want it to be a big fervor that lasts for a couple of weeks, and then fades away as they usually do want this to be a continued conversation, so we are going to be part of that solution. We're going to be exploring, inviting and trying to. Prolong this conversation for the foreseeable future whether it's extra episodes or more experts I'm lean towards extra I always like more content than we'll continue to talk about this issue, so. Please enjoy heather McKee. She has a lot of profound things to say and we really appreciate her making time. When a lot of people wanNA talk to her, so thank you so much and please enjoy Heather Mickey. Hello..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

04:16 min | 9 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

"Welcome welcome welcome to armchair expert experts on expert I'm Dan Shepard I'm joined by Monica monsoon well. You know we had a lineup this week. We're going to have linus more set on Monday and we didn't do that. You wrote a beautiful thing explaining that, and then we had another expert of course scheduled for today, but we changed that out with a more relevant expert to what's happening right? Right now all around the country in response to George Floyd in the police brutality. Today we have heather mcghee. Heather is someone who's worked with economic policy and the government level. She was the president of Demos She's a UC Berkeley law school graduate, and has a BA from Yale and she has a wonderful perspective and I really really really urge everyone to watch her ted talk which. which is entitled? Racism has a cost for everyone and armed. Jerry's please watch. Racism has a cost everyone. She's three thousand views shy of a million and I. Think that US Arm Cherries can get hurt to two million. That's my goal for her and for us, so please check out. Racism has a cost for everyone on Youtube. This will be the first of many podcasts that we're going. Going to dedicate to this issue as we try to learn more figure out what we can do to help, yeah, we don't want it to be a big fervor that lasts for a couple of weeks, and then fades away as they usually do want this to be a continued conversation, so we are going to be part of that solution. We're going to be exploring, inviting and trying to. Prolong this conversation for the foreseeable future whether it's extra episodes or more experts, I'm lean towards extra. I always like more content than we'll continue to talk about this issue, so. Please enjoy heather McKee. She has a lot of profound things to say and we really appreciate her making time when a lot of people wanna talk to her, so thank you so much and please enjoy Heather Mickey. Hello..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

All In with Chris Hayes

03:23 min | 10 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

All In with Chris Hayes

14:33 min | 10 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

"Which is the picture of the Pool? Which is so perfect about the cost to everyone. Tell tell the story of the pool because it to me has like a self contained story about what you're what the thesis is here. It sort of works perfectly so I went to Montgomery Alabama where there is a park in the middle of the city called Oak Park which back in the nineteen thirties and forties was part of a nationwide building. Boom of beautiful public parks like you as people who are born in the seventies and eighties. We don't really know this phenomenon But there used to be the sort of started in the new deal and then in the postwar era these sort of beautiful grand swimming pool that were the heart of these communities cities in towns all across the country and they could hold a thousand people and they were the sort of you know urban planners vision of classlessness right the middle and upper class. Which sort of all meet in their bathing suits and you know get love loving it married for you know. There's there's only the one that I know the best which I can't believe there's this Barton Springs in Austin Texas which is which is a natural swimming pool to natural spring than it's like sort of built around it and when you go there you think like am I in a country club like it can't. You're pinching yourself that this thing exists as a public. Good that like no you just go. It's it's public you go and you swimming these cool fresh springs and everyone hangs out and it's like this is incredible. I can't believe the thing. This is now very rare sight because for the most part even in northern cities those grand public pools. Those resort tools were public. There are funded by taxpayer dollars. They were exclusively for whites. Only and the nineteen fifties when civil rights groups began to You know advocate and litigating against this practice of exclusion and the barrier. Our default down towns. Did what Montgomery Alabama did which was effective first nineteen fifty nine. The town council voted to close the public swimming pool. Not only did they closed pool right. They drained the public pool. They filled it in with paved it over. They also shut down the entire parks department. They had a zoo. They had recreation centers. They had a dozen public parks. They closed it all down for a decade and when they finally reopened it they never rebuilt the pool. That to me is what has happened to our whole country. We had a very generous social welfare system that included subsidized housing. No down payment mortgages that were backed by the federal government the Homestead Act the land grant college system. We had a sort of a middle class that was constructed by government policy. That was the envy of the World Win. It was for whites only and really for white men on and when the movement of the nineteen sixties to open the doors to everybody else the doors were closed on that vision and so we've all been living in stingier drained public pool. We've been all been living in that drained public pool where you know. Our schools are underfunded. Our Roads and bridges are come crumbling. They get a deeply from the American Society of Civil Engineers the world we know the I mean this is the world we know where nothing right. Yeah we're watching. I mean right. Now we're watching. Is this enormous global test of state capacity. That is a challenge for every government. You know even the best government. It's it's an enormous challenge for the US just really failing the state capacity test. I mean in fits and starts in certain allies places being able to kind of get its act together but on the whole like as a global test of say capacity like just how good and competent. And how you know. Administratively efficient is your state like. We're not doing that well. And that's you know that's for everyone like like it's not that it doesn't have disproportionate effects but the general level of creative capacity of the American state is not particularly high right now. We that is absolutely right. And you know and this administration also you know accelerated trend and did things specifically to put to minimize the State's capacity to respond right. Whether it was cutting the public health positions that would have been able to to stop this earlier on Dismantling the man in charge of pandemic response in the spring of twenty eighteen whether it was making sure that our healthcare infrastructure remained. You know in this state for the past almost four years of seesawing between attempts to kill the affordable care act to undermine to create work requirements on the Medicaid that we have to you know fund the Fight Against Medicaid expansion in mostly the former confederate states. And here's where race comes in again. You know societies that has a public health system that is highly functioning well coordinated and well resourced are obviously going to do better in public health crisis and we have resisted that country on the planet in large part for the past one hundred years because of racism he was the southern. Democrats who stopped president. Truman from being able to have a national health insurance plan. It was a resistance by a racially organized. Republican Party that stopped obamacare from being. You know anything like actually having a collective at its core right. Stop the public option. Stop the ability to to negotiate drug prices anything where we would have to sort of be in it together you know. Our government has resisted and today the states that don't have Medicaid expansion which means that working class people white Black Brown are unable to qualify for. Medicare. I'm excuse me for Medicaid. Which means that working class people who make ten thousand dollars a year? Twelve fifteen thousand dollars a year. Make too much. Money to qualify for Medicaid even though their employers have no interest in offering them healthcare people in those dozen or so states are left without their uninsured the dying at higher rates in their hospitals in there many of them in their rural communities are closing because they have no healthcare infrastructure and social science research has shown that racial resentment drives white opposition to Medicaid expansion. It's seen as a black program and it is resisted by the majority of white people. The most perfect example of this right now in this moment is we. We did the story on on the show last night. The unemployment system in Florida and Rick Scott. Back in twenty eleven like revamped. It made it harder. A Lot. Like these Medicaid work requirements right so and the and the whole politics of that is like these other people over there. They're you know they're lazy and shiftless. They don't WanNa work so we got. We got a problem to work and like you know what I'm talking about when I talk about those lazy people over there you know you shiftless people. We can't let them be on the Dole. We don't want the safety net. Turn Hanoch Yeah. Yeah so Scott makes they cut benefits out twenty six weeks. I think to twelve and he makes one of those onerous systems in the entire country. You GotTa go through all these. Hoops used to be able to sign up on the phone. Nike on cuter. You gotTA provide the sacraments. Lumumba fucking hold like and I'm sure that was. That was smart politics at a certain moment. Because it's like well I'm not employed and that's those people over there and then like what do you know? Millions of learnings are employed and no one can get their stuff. Claimed it's like it's the drained pool like in real time in the last week now all. I'm getting emails from viewers. Being like I can't get my unemployment processed because someone somewhere thought it was good politics and maybe in the moment word politics to go beat up on the unemployed with all of the racial subtext of what that is that is where we are and what I'm hopeful about is. That's not where we're going to be in six months in a year in two years Because it feels to me like this is a. This is cracking open of our society on such a fundamental level where one of the major myths of American Society which is the myth of a hierarchy of human value. That they're just some groups of people that are inherently better than others and that the fortunes of society sort of accrue to those better groups and so the misfortune of people who are down on their luck as we say You know it's in some way. Those people deserved it right. The undeserving and the deserving sort of the fulcrum of American society in it's always been racialist but right now as much as trump is trying to you know the billionaire right wing donor classes trying to to throw the seeds of division. You know eight nine out of ten people agree with the stay at home orders right while right ratty were people understand that something terrifying is happening. We know we've watched enough apocalyptic television to be like okay. This is time you know. And and they're eases the support for Medicare for all is the highest level You know it's ever been It's at majority support. You got support for things that were already popular like a wealth tax and a guaranteed income shooting up even more. You've got Republicans saying we need a universal basic income You've got countries that are doing things like that you know. Having unemployment rates that increase by a percentage and a half as opposed to going up to twelve percent which the CBO just the Congressional Budget Office just predicted today. This is hurting too. Many people to continue to let our US verses than politics create an allusion of safety and I hope that coming on the incredible momentum that progressives have had at the ballot box in an organizing led by women in the twenty eighteen midterms Even Wisconsin which we thought was going to be you know a tragedy not just electorally but on a human level and still may be the latter but you saw people brave. You know A really evil. Frankly bargain to try to get To try to suppress the vote You saw people say no. I don't want this right. Wing Trump Supreme Court justice. I want somebody who who believes in the public interest. So cautiously optimistic. I've been I've been wrong before by doing that. But I'm cautiously optimistic here. I WanNa talk a little bit about how you deal with this because I think that so. I think that there's a literature that's built up both sort of analysts like yourself and also there's been political scientists and historians like altogether growing literature about this this the as descriptive. How American politics has worked the Fulcrum of race and the sort of social welfare state? Right that we know we know that racial resentment in Michael Tests and other people's were like has this correlation to people that views on things that aren't explicitly about race but essentially racial resentment becomes a sort of proxy variable to determine your views on redistribution more broadly and that the politics of that has created the the kind of You know much less much weaker. Public sector the US has compared to other OECD countries. Right so then the question becomes like okay. Well how do we? What's the way around that? And and and one of the sort of approaches and I think this this has been kind of a Bernie Sanders approach more in two thousand sixteen than I think. Now I think there is some growth in his analysis Is this kind of like. Can you kind of do kind of class first politics a class first populism? That says look put all that stuff. Aside focus on the drug companies that are fucking you and focused on the on the big banks because everyone hates them and they want to raise taxes on the rich and look at all these polling pulling on all this stuff is good you could build a coalition that sort of a class first collision that kind of sidesteps. All at racial stuff might even just say like for the woke. Use whatever words you want that stuff is. That's that's what we're trying to do here. Yeah and and I think it's not a it's not an insane idea but I think that it's I think it's shown at shortcomings and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on on that approach. Yeah that is the big question right. I think that that approach is naive the way I like to picture is you know white. You know maybe unemployed maybe employed For manufacturing worker in Wisconsin goes for Bernie Sanders. Rally absolutely gets you know the fullbore colorblind economic populist argument is psyched about it. It's like yes that makes sense. The corporations are the bad guys. It's the politicians that are in the pockets of the corporations. They're the ones who have screwed. Us dozen hear anything about race except maybe some disparity story right is told yes and also brown. Black people are are suffering more than you men. You know maybe okay. Okay okay Then gets back in his truck and turns on talk radio. And here's the people with the loudest megaphones in society whether it's Fox News or Conservative. Talk Radio or the president of the United States doing an entirely racialist narrative that says you know. It's not the corporations.

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Why Is This Happening? with Chris Hayes

Why Is This Happening? with Chris Hayes

07:47 min | 11 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Why Is This Happening? with Chris Hayes

"Degree to which like. I said this on twitter of like the idea that you would go around after nine eleven and be like well you know. The Flu Kills Fifty Thousand People Year. You know do you know the flu kills it? I mean look with swimming pools. We've got car accidents. We got cigarettes. I mean really. I can't not sorta of don't get what everyone's so sad about like people would have punched in the face. He would have lost your job. You would have been spit on at people also would have been like your associate path and you were a sociopath. What the Fuck is wrong with you and yet here? We are like people. I know people that are loved ones of people. I work with people that we all know you know. Famous people famous people like frontline workers cops and firefighters. Mta workers in nurses in Dhaka. And it just like they don't care they're running around telling us what the how many people die every year from the flu and from cigarettes and from pools. And it's like Good God. That part of it has been so horrifying to me and so at a human level like heartbreaking heart. Br It's like. The grief is heartbreaking and the lack of mourning and grief is doubly heartbreaking where it's like. Wow they really don't care it really don't care about this calamity that's befalling us. This is an invitation to solidarity. Right right no that. That's the case when you see the corporations ads which you know just chain sort of turned over in the past few weeks to sort of all covered nineteen ads and you have Walmart associates all singing. Lean on me into their smartphones. You that's just the message we're aren't together is what colgate is saying and tired if you wanted. Some sort of weathervane asked to kind of what is the dominant narrative that Madison Avenue as we used to call it is is is is hearing is what people want to hear right now is that it is solitaire. The it is we are all together and I think about the mask right so we were all finally told to wear masks and our instinct is. It's to protect ourselves by because that's what we do. We predict ourselves. We try to put on armor trying to shield ourselves from this. Dangerous thing is slowly being revealed in fits and starts that actually. It's to protect other people which means that the Matt wearing a mask is an act of solidarity and protection to others. Even if you don't feel sick you should wear a mask because you might get someone sick. Who either because they have pre existing conditions or because that's just the way things happen. They could get very sick from something that hasn't made you sick and the mask wearing like there is a collective engage in the public project to care for all of us together that ordinary people across the various divisions that diviners divider society have undertaken collectively in a way that is actually quite inspiring like we have you know. Republican Democrat right wingers and left wingers like Black White Latino. Like rich and poor like again. It doesn't mean those those divisions don't matter it doesn't mean that like it's hitting everyone the same way it clearly isn't but as but as a collective collect response there has been a remarkable amount of unity of purpose like which is why Iran actually all humans. Yes because we are. That's right. We're human bodies who don't want it nine a plague and not only that do not want to die in the plate. We don't want other Stein the plague we don't want we don't want to pass off the plague. We don't WANNA BE VECTOR SOMEONE'S SICKNESS. We don't want the the infirm and immune compromise and people in nursing homes. We don't know to get sick because of us. We don't want that. We genuinely don't want that. And that is the pope part of this whole thing to me. That is there amidst all this. Is that like there is just genuine decency and concerned people's lives that is on display everywhere like and I find that that part of inspiring is absolute inspiring You know tens of thousands of people who had hung up this death scopes Years before and surged back into volunteer to go to New York. You Know I. I've sort of been oddly. High Number of friends who are doctors and nurses at public health officials. It's it's sort of like being those common job of my close friends and hearing their stories of chest you know. This is what the moment we were prepared for. This is the moment we remain for it. It feels like it's an invitation to solidarity. I think one of the things that we've we've done poorly that we haven't given everyday people enough more to do actually Because I think that that desire to be helpful is so so so so high right now. you know you know these. Were not the Times that we have our new because we were born into Reagan and just move on from there but you know there was a time when people were buying bonds planting victory gardens and there was a time when everybody was you know moving across the country in order to be a part of an effort that was bigger than that and I think. That's what we're going to need to do about the New York. I mean you and I both live in New York and you're from New York Chicago originally but you know I think about the city that is going to have to be rebuilt and just how much I would be willing to do for that. Yeah me too how much I? I am hope that our government is able to give way to be a part of the solution because this country is going to have to be. Rebuilt is going to have to which just so crazy the lack of morning me. No moments of silence before these press briefings. There's no there's no names being red or fully across because nothing like we are planning now people. Are you know. Every time I opened up my facebook feed their someone else's Auntie who has died and yet there's no public official counting of that. We need to obviously do that. And we need to roll up our sleeves. We're I think we're going to be in a great depression You know on top of the pandemic and I just you know the public projects that came out of that period with the new deal are what are going to need to be on the horizon. I think we need to take the fact that fossil fuels are trading at so low and actually have the government by them not bail them out but as I am and shut them down keep it workers and keep the workers in retrain them analysts say planet. Let's actually act like the greatest country in the world. Think big heather mcghee is senior distinguished fellow at Demos. She's author of the upcoming book. The some of us out in two thousand twenty one you can go pre-order it right now also. She's got a new tedtalk up about the cost of racism to all of us should check that out. We will include a link. Thank you heather. It's great to talk to you. Thank you Chris. Once again my great thanks to my good friend. Heather mcghee distinguished senior fellow team again of the book. Some of us is out you can pre-order you can also check out the tedtalk. We'd love to hear your feedback Tweet US Hashtag with pod. Email with pod at g mail DOT COM. Why is this happening is presented by MSNBC NBC News produced by the team and featured music? By Eddie Cooper you can see more of our work including links to things we mentioned here by going to NBC News Dot Com slash wisest happening..

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"heather mcghee" Discussed on Why Is This Happening? with Chris Hayes

Why Is This Happening? with Chris Hayes

08:59 min | 11 months ago

"heather mcghee" Discussed on Why Is This Happening? with Chris Hayes

"Hey Chris how are you? I mean I personally am fine right. I'm healthy as far as I know my family's okay financially. It's tough but I'm you know I'm okay But you know as a citizen of this country and this world. I'm I'm heartbroken This is a this is worse than we feared right. When this man walked into the White House it was like. Please don't let anything really terrible happen on his watch and it has and he is bundled it more than we possibly could've articulated From waiting too long to telling people to Ingest Bleach today. It's just it's just really bad and people. Yeah the word. I'm glad you use the word heartbroken because I think I was talking to friends last night. Didn't like zoom cocktail hour and I'm GonNa get a choked up actually right now so I just try to keep it under control but like you know I. There's a thing with like the numbers and this is such a cliche and try observation. Obviously Joseph Stalin so this years ago but like the numbers. And you're looking at the numbers. It's like fifty thousand dead and like what does that mean then like we have people in our company we lost. We have people on staff who have lost loved ones. I have friends who have lost loved. Like it's just. The grief is everywhere like you know. And it's it's very I find it. Very very upsetting and heartbreaking like I feel deep grief and mourning and sadness a lot and I'm like you know a just wrestling with all the time but also that idea of like what you just said is so true like the nightmare is here and it is a nightmare. I can't I can't believe and can't believe that we're living through this nightmare. But the thing that I was thinking about what Merlin that he did that dumb ass thing with the hurricane sharpie it. He was like wrong about the path. And he said it was GonNa hit Georgia Alabama and it wasn't that sharp he'd in the path and I remember doing a bit on my show where it's like this is funny dumb but also serious and also like thank God. It didn't actually get anyone killed. Yeah but like the stakes are really high. And now it's like here. We are here we are and we have someone who after fumbling and lying and Completely mishandling the situation is now firmly settled into his sweet spot of divisive politics of trying to create an US versus them within our own country. And doing it released successfully right. I mean down to The Federal Government Picking Winners and losers With with protective equipment and outbidding states and stockpiling and suggesting that they should Florida where Donald Trump has Escaped to cause. New York won't have him anymore has more protective equipment than in ventilators than it even wanted And you're starting to see a just this past week with a purported ban on immigration betsy devos in the Department of Education wanting to moving to make sure that dreamers. Don't get any kind of aid. You're starting to see a clear racialist. Divide and conquer and Mitch. Mcconnell saying that basically blue states can go bankrupt and red states. That are more rural. Just can open up their economies and win. This is the formula buying its shrink. The Circle of human concern may give the people on your team an outsized sense of security and superiority and in fact make them delight a little bit in that that is heartbreaking to me as someone who cares about humanity cares about this country is about our soul we are absolutely failing And and this you know just last week. I think they've already gotten too much attention. But of course it. It was shocking There were a handful of protests where you had mostly older white folks defying the protective orders to go out in an protests. And you know they were funded by the same right. When billionaires that are funded so much of the tea party and those people are GonNa get sick right it was supposed to be a drive by protests in the god of their cars and they you know smush their faces against the Capitol building. And you know it's like they were literally exposing themselves to die for this bargain and that's what my book is about. That's what the Tedtalk was about. Is the ways that racism cost everyone in the end? Yeah you let's start with the that phone call that I think is kind of the. It was the first moment I think our seeds of the book Even though you're you're working at focused on this long before that that phone call on C. Span. I just posted a youtube that someone had cut me on a very early span appearance in which a caller while I'm looking into the camera says like maybe one. I just had an idea that when the ways we can deal with. Garbage is put down volcanoes. And what do you think of that? That was like had to look in the camera that is outside expertise. But I thought of that because as I was watching the president. Just be like honestly just spitballing here. But maybe get some UV. Light up inside the body. I don't know how you do that. Put that like. It took me back to that moment. But all my way of saying there's genre of c-span calls a is a fascinating and multifaceted one. And you had this. You're on C. Span Washington Journal and someone called. Tell me what happened. Yes so I was on that live television show just really like radio talk shows but on TV in the whole visual screen. Is your face reacting to this. I said And someone called in identified Gary from North Carolina and his first words were. I'm a white male and I'm prejudiced. It's kind of like the garbage and the volcano. What do you say? What do you know I was on there talking about tax policy and jobs and the deficit right and but he? He went on to say that he was. He was basically afraid of black men in drugs and gangs and crime but then he said but I wanNA change and I want to know what your guest would tell me to do to become a better American and that got to me and so I responded not by trying to deconstruct his His biased in that way that you might if you're really pissed at someone saying that they were so prejudiced against your people on live television. But I just I thanked him for being honest and gave him some simple tips about how he sort of integrate his life and Unlearn the messages that he's learned and that clip of our exchange went viral. Sort of the official count is eight million but we had at one point candidate up as twenty it just keeps sort of having a life of its own because You know because people were surprised that a black woman wouldn't get angry and they were surprised that a white man would admit his bias on national television In the end After that exchange Gary from North Carolina and I ended up getting to know each other And what I learned from him was many things actually But when I learned from him was that his racism was causing him to suffer. He had acute social anxiety. A sort of moral Panic and he was the one primarily suffering from his racism. And it wasn't for me. It was a lightbulb moment that there was a through line from the economic work that I've done my whole career as an economic policy person working at team. Oh which is progressive think-tank Iran for four years in an and worked at for sixteen There was an economic argument. I was making policies. I was pursuing. That really. Taught me that you can't contain the fallout of racially motivated. Bad Economic Policy Decision Making The the the seminal experience of my career has been was trying to stop the subprime mortgage crisis in the early two thousands before it ended up creating a toxic mix of racism ingred that took down the global economy and seeing how if we had stopped it then back when it was only bad mortgages going to homeowners with good credit in black and Brown neighborhoods. Anybody had cared. Who had the power to stop it? We literally would not have had the financial crisis if it weren't for racism so I was able to connect that through line. It caused me to go on this journey over the past two years travelling the country and making the case that racism.

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Starbucks stores to close today for anti-bias training

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Starbucks stores to close today for anti-bias training

"In new york you may see a closed sign on your local starbucks this afternoon today the coffee chain is closing all of its company owned stores for part of the afternoon to conduct racial bias education the trainings in response to an incident last april at a philadelphia starbucks when store manager called the police on black men who had not yet ordered marketplace's nancy marshall genzer is following this well starbucks says it'll be training nearly one hundred seventy five thousand workers the training is geared toward preventing discrimination in starbucks stores starbucks says the training will address bias that can lead to stereotyping prevent discrimination and promote inclusion in a statement starbucks says the goal is to quote ensure everyone inside a starbucks store feel safe and welcome starbucks says it received guidance on its curriculum from former attorney general eric holder sherline eiffel of the nwc p and heather mcghee the president of the public policy group demos begi says she'll hold starbucks to a high standard and won't be a rubber stamp to validate its training marketplace's nancy marshall genzer thank you let's do the numbers via talion failing to form a populist government in building the far right and inroads in spain by the left are among the reasons that european stocks are down sharply today the footsie in london down one point three percent sp spain's main stock index down two point four percent dow futures here down seven tenths percent the euro is down at a dollar fifteen the trump administration wants to change the rules to allow shortterm health insurance plans to become permanent the argument is these could be affordable alternatives to higher cost coverage under obamacare no doubt shortterm plans are.

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