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Episode 82: Honey Badger Dont Care

Jeather's Random Stuff

44:23 min | 1 year ago

Episode 82: Honey Badger Dont Care

"The here we go. We're going. Hello do the shit. Hi everybody how you doing? Hey I guys is We're hearing other week. I know you guys probably missed us. Coast another week. We have so many fans like we're so blessed to have the amount fans that we have. We actually really are. We are actually really shocked because during my stay at home for eight weeks. Guess what I got to go back to work today so I stayed home for eight weeks. I had no idea that pretty much every single low grade celebrity that has ever been on a reality TV. Show or anything has a podcast really. There's like thousands out there so if anybody's listening to West because we're no names. Thank you. We're trying to get a celebrity on here. We haven't sixty yet. No one will will. They all have their own. Damn podcast I know we should maybe reach out. Seeping get someone. Maybe Oprah think we get Oprah. I'm sure she could pencils or Ellen. Do you think Ellen would come on? Oh you know who we could get on. Who if we tell him that we're crazy? We could probably get Dr Phil Really. Oh maybe maybe like these mentally insane. People have a podcast. I'm sure down Dr Phil would have lots to tell us about our awesome wind drinking. I'm sure Dr Phil have a lot of insights for us and our eating habits and relationships and yeah. Yeah. It's not GonNa look great for Dr Phil Case. You're wondering I'm Jacoby together. We make a jeter. You're listening to random stuff but you already knew that because you're one of our awesome subscribers and tonight we have our tech person slash special guest. Megan here to lose. Actually the true boss. She's here to keep us in line. So if some awesome stuff plan today Rendu something a little bit different just so fun so excited I love different But I I'm going to ask icebreaker question. I love the icebreakers and I thought this was sort of appropriate. Why is Talk I went back to work and work in people's mouths all day with the coronavirus. No it doesn't but because of the coronavirus if you had the opportunity in it was possible. Would you be tempted to take a one way trip to Mars? No one way trip one way trip. You have to live there. Oh who's going with me? There'd be lots of people like my family going with me make friends and my family going with well. It depends what like. Let's say. Yeah only the people that you'd like. Oh I don't have to bring anybody I don't like now only the people you blake only the chain up the question only you you just take people you'd like but you go to Mars but you have to stay there forever. Keep reminding yes but keep in mind in Mars. You have to live inside container thing. There's no trees wildlife air water. Just said I bring my animals so getting this is okay. Well she cannot jump up right now she we're doing something so yeah you can bring people but it's barren so. I can bring a ferret and all the animal and it all my favorite people you have to eat. Re drink reconstituted water. That's a game changer. Just lab allow so far. I was okay with everything the only water you have to drink the water you bring with you. Well if I can bring my own water. Yeah but you'll run out eventually. So how'd you get new water? I Will Morris has water on it. It's just use fuck. Yeah I mean. I'm already so picky about it. So this is what I would do. I would go I well. No I'd make one of my favorites. Go before me so that way and no at least one person made there before me. So yeah. And then I would stagger all the other people for every about every couple of months and they would bring gallons and gallons and gallons of water with them every time. Yeah okay okay. That's my plan. All right so this Mars things a huge achievement for NASA FR-. Yeah Yeah so you think the least they could do is just send spacecrafts of water every couple of months. Well I think there's like a machine you can do that. Sucks water out of the error or something. House a taste. Isn't there like a hydrating bang worked for NASA. Did you guys watch or read the Martian? No I did the movie suck but that was Matt Damon. Well so I read the book and they described. There's a machine that makes the water. I can't remember what it's called or how it works and I don't even know if it's a real thing good all I care about. Oh it's fucking you gotta drink it. Though you're on Mars it's only water. You have a cannot get any other. Why won't go to Mars if it's not good water though? Well that's a game. What if what if you don't know until you get there what I would go then if I did what I was getting water. You know unlike hunger games where people like you. When you're playing they'll send you like stimulus. Packages makes me no. But you're going to be so famous being the first person on Mars. You think people would want to help you out and send you shit okay. Maybe that's a good idea. That's a good idea if you didn't go with us for just water. Yeah Oh did you want it only takes you know thirty years to get their thirty thirty years to get the Mars. Yeah how long it takes an aircraft that we have today how long it would take to Mars. Space Shuttle Space Shuttle Right now. That's why no people can go to Mars because it takes too long to get there and they would die before they got there. No no no. No people have been the Mars. I've only know they have. We sent a monkey or anything there. No nothing nothing. Thanks you long. Space will with Martha Closest Planet to us. How bad is it take? How long does it take to get? Has It so far away thirty years? I think I would be in a spaceship for I'd be a seventy years old when I get there. It's like it takes a why not talking thing around thirty thirty years but it's five or six years to get. I'M NOT GONNA go into air an airplane for an hour and a half ago freaking out. I'm going to go on an airplane for you. All right so the consensus is no on the one way ticket to Mars layaway. It's not even a year. What the total journey time from Earth the Mars takes between one hundred fifteen three hundred days so I get one year so like a year happier because one year is three hundred sixty five and they said up to three hundred days did say I one hundred could be less. Yeah I'd be on the the only one hundred aircraft I would pick. That's the Express Shala so we sent you water an advanced. I mean it could work Senate ahead of time on. What is this whole thing? You guys aren't going with me. Now Mar sucks. Why would we want to any trees earn anything or a lake or you know there's swimming pool? How do you know those? You can't go outside to swimming. That's way too much water to waste on US indoor pool because there's only millions of people sending water. Yeah but you need to save drink. Can't swim in it. There's no way the fucking Mars Guy March sex all right. Wait wait does Marcel. Because if our planet blow south if our planet blows up we're just all fucked. I'm just going to tell you. Then that's when I wanted to be on the airplane. There is no way that even a one percent of the population of the world's getting out of here to go to Mars. There's no way well. This is why we make vision before that happened. Yeah so we have to make educated guesses Megan beyond this. So hey you know what we could start building our own rocket ship to Mars in the backyard the audio. I'm sure that would take off. Make it to Mars. Yes sir. I'm sure it would hold a hover on the ground. I'll start reading rocket. God we're GonNa put on the seat in the whole thing's going to explode. Yeah all exploding waivers. Yeah that's explode okay. We're GONNA move on from the Mars conversation if anyone would really actually like to go to. Mars let us know. Do you hear her. She's not happy that I've scooted in and I can't let her up here. She can't always have what she wants. Don't spoil her. She'll become a brand. What is that on the floor? What is it live? Patriot? There's a bunch of ripped toilet paper right here. Who did that? I don't I didn't see anybody do it. I think it was patrol. Maybe we can always blame tro Petronas always. He's never done that before where he was less sitting when I saw him was right there but it could have very well been cat damage. Heather I just love her okay. There's got a cat for those of you can't see what's happening. Which is all of you. Because it's a podcast is. Don't let her walk over hair she's GonNa make something. Go off or something we have. Oh Yep you see why. This is a bad idea. We have a cat named cat. She's she's trying to get on the podcast table which is small and there's lots of buttons. She can push to mess everything up. She's got to go down. No Heather Heather Heather Heather Heather. Thank you know cow right now. All right so today. We're going to do something different. This is Megan's idea We are going to read a scary story and hopefully it's scary. I haven't read it. She just pulled it up here. I haven't read it either but we will be comedy throughout the whole thing and I'll be asking questions because you know that's how I am. Oh yeah thank you thank you. You're right okay. The name of this scary stories called birthday girl. That's not even scary. It's not so let's read it and see why it's scary. Megan just had a birthday. Yes she did. Tell me that before reading this. Something's going to happen to the birthday girl. Or maybe the birthday girls evil and she like kills everybody at our party like it's like the ring that wasn't a birthday why she was a girl who's evil that's true it's like Kerry thank. She wasn't evil. People made her evil Sorry for her. The bill in that movie or so fucking. The whole school is sadistic there are so mean to hurt all died. Yeah at the end because you don't put pig blood on somebody. Expect her not to go psycho and kill who just like sees a girl in the hallway and goes Pig blood like not. Yeah really be no what bothered me. The most was not the pig blood being dropped on her where they get the pig blood from the butcher shop that alright. Alright scary storytime. I'm GonNa read girl. Good Morning Sunshine. Time to wake up. I opened my eyes and seen nurse. Judy ready to give me my morning. Injection scares already star. Now good I sit on the bed and roll up my Pajama Sleeve. I feel the needle under my skin and medication. Flowing inside my veins. This very descriptive not medication. She's just crazy and it's another shot of heroin. Megan could be. That could be your drug supplier instead of nurse. The nurse gives me a little Jewish ladies than good morning. Sweetheart all right. The nurse gives me a wide smile. Good girl you can go to the canteen now and have breakfast with your friends. The canteen canteens is a hospital. It's a I don't know I thought a nurse. It doesn't say canteen cafeteria mess hall. I think those are the three I know Break Room. Yeah. Restaurant Canteen. Canteen is isn't a canteen cafeteria. I guess okay okay friends. I don't have friends here. Oh She's EAM oh. My friends are almost sixty miles away from me and join life learning new stuff making out at parties. Certainly not spending their youth in a psychiatric ward. Oh Jeez yeah heroin. I'm I do. It is carry after the pig blood. Yeah my parents put me there. It was after another anxiety attack at school. I lost control and tried to do something stupid. Like kill everybody up. They pick blow. Not Everything. Seems stupid to me. This is what she did. Oh No no no I pass by nutsy. Nora's room Nazi Nora favorite. That's I guess. Wow what's the name? She's actually just like a normal person and she's Nora Nutsy Nutsy Nora. Her yelling is impossible to ignore. She keeps screaming Kelly and Jenna and over again. Whatever these names mean I see. Two doctors rushing to a room with the set of tranquilizers down or nothing or is it going down dammit. Nora all right. This place is full of people like her and I don't think I belong here. I don't think I would either. Who Actually thinks they belong psychiatric ward. That's I mean I would be. Oh you know there. Are Some serial killers up. Wanted to be in there because the pleaded insanity. Yeah because it's easier to be in there than in prison. Yeah yeah all right. I enter the canteen here. Allowed surprise. I look around and see. The other patients gathered around a cake with a numbered candles. One and seven seventeen and an inscription. Happy Birthday Robin. That's her name. That's her name. Oh right. It's my seventeenth birthday. I totally forgot and I forced myself to smile and blow out the candles. The cake tastes like soap or cough syrup like in the cake. That's all they had in. The kitchen was Kassir. We've probably not cop serve probably something else to make them all night called. You know chill ax. I hide both the candles in my pocket when nobody's looking. I guess it's the only gift I can get today. All that sad. Wow Yeah so. This is the pressing handles scary story. It's I'm freaked out right now. The top one of the nurses on the way back to my room. I ask if my parents are going to see me. She shrugs and walks away without saying a word. That's rude bitch. It's her birthday. Why wouldn't you think parents we're to come? I know they put her in there. That's true as a lay in bed. I stretch my arms and look on my hands. They look so weird like so. Damn Weird. Maybe it's a side effect of one of my medications so heroin could be this nurse. Judy interrupts my contemplation. She storms in with an afternoon dosage of pills. Storms then with the pills so says the storm in with. They're laying on her bed her hand. Now that's drugs. That's probably why they need to give her the drugs they were like. Why should you staring at her hand? Fucking take her out. She's not sleeping. She has passed out from the hair yet. How are you feeling my dear? Did you like the birthday surprise. She asked with that annoyingly. Sweet smile mom. Can I say something? Yeah is the exact same voice used to read like children books to me real. I was like very tiny. Yeah was this voice. I remember you reading me. Doctor Gruesome this voice a little disconcerting wall this is just our storytelling voice. I know yeah. Apparently I've a storytelling voice. And I didn't even know what advice a bit but it has the same used for children and adults apparently apparently great inclusive me. Just scroll here okay. Sorry she's Oh yeah. I forgot today's the day she takes my hand and says Oh don't worry. Darlene happens to everyone kind of die. I as she holds my hands. I asked her why my skin looks so strange nurse. Judy gives me a sympathetic gaze. I think it's normal watcher age. Don't you think so sweetie? What's their skin puberty kick in? We just said our hands weird so I don't know but she's not saying why they're weird like scaly or they Harry Wallin. They turned their color issue. Trying to make a fool of me. I've had enough but I'm only seventeen. I say imploringly. I don't know any other teenager with hands like these. Just look a take the candles out of my pocket and almost rub them in her face. You see one and seven seventeen. I Yell Role. Okay sorry sorry. No just waste our time. Judy Judy gently takes the candles from my shaking. Hands Robin. That's not seventeen. Let me show the right order. It's seven and one seventy one. She's seventy one she's a kid. She thinks that she's seventeen. But she's seventy one. Did her parents drop her off there. And just that's why when she asked it for parents coming the nurse just like walked off because they're not coming. There's probably not alive. If she's seventy one yeah they might be but it's probably not probably they so far. This isn't scary as a sad. That's the end of the story. Can't that pulled it up. I just look for the top rated story in this was it. That's not scary. It's just mean yeah. This is horrible settled lady. So she's hands because she's only seventeen. Oh because they look old wrinkly yes which would be not is what she forgot her birthday. Oh God no I need a funny one. Yeah thought we're GONNA make them funny be like about murders about old ladies. You can't even make that funny. That's just. It's supposed to be creepy. It's all right. Louie find another one. You're on the scary story. Yeah I think so. Just called short stories. It said Short scary stories side. Are you sure? Yeah Yeah Yeah. I know what's going on right now. We'll just like move on and Megan can do trivia for us to work. You're GONNA do that. We have to try and save this podcast. Let's save the podcast. Hello instead of you see those shirts. I really actually want one. That says Save Ferris Rolling from Ferris. Bueller sal really but maybe we should have one that says save. Save the PODCAST. I don't know I kind of want one. That says that I found his shirt. I'm GonNa get you for your birthday. La Yeah I'm not gonNa tell you what it says something. I'm just buying a little czar. That's it because you know I am turning forty. I know so you gotTa have a little something something I saw it and I took it. I showed it to Jeff. I was cracking up and I might. I have to buy that for either. So yeah that's I'm doing k. Megan am ready with the Trivia. Or are you doing else look at? I'm going to read a couple of headlines. Okay while Megan's mining this. This was a headline on newspaper. Murderer says detective ruined his reputation because he's murder. Yeah and the detective detected him got in trouble for murdering someone who's like dude. Why did you that? We've already read? This would though the man that eat that eats underwear to be breathalysed. Oh Yeah we have had that one shit. Eight thirty meeting ends an accident. These are newspaper headlines guys federal agents raid gun shops. Find Weapons. What I now shock eight. They've found weapons at the gun shop. I so I used to work at a newspaper longtime ago for many many years. And everyone saw there'd be a TYPO and it headline like for the world for young. My favorite one was a recipe that they posted on how to make baked. Children all know baked children so as a Hansel and Gretel chicken but instead it said Shelton. There's another news article as scientists to kill ducks to see why they're dying. Are They Columbia House? Like yeah right are you it. The Colombian point staff killing ducks. Okay are you ready? Yes okay. Ready Heather I've done the okay. Let's go with the trick. Gopher Trivia what. Danish author is considered by many to be the most prolific fairy tale writer. He Lost Danish a writer and they rights fairy tales at the Danish writer Christian Andersen. Yep Oh how'd you pull that I out? I don't even know just referenced Hansel or you just referenced? I don't even know who the fuck wrote Hansel and Gretel. Yeah that you do now when though I don it's gone this one is going to be so easy. Chunk was a character. In which nineteen nine hundred. Five movie about a group of young misfits the goodies. Yup I love chunk from nineteen sixty five to nineteen seventy-three Dick Butkus play professional football as a linebacker for which. Nfl team the bears. I mean just go rocking Dick Butkus. His last name is literally but kiss. How do you not remember that Shit? I've never heard him my life. Oh my God I remember him now but kissed kissed the bears. Okay go ahead. What Countries Twenty? Ten Ben on film worker unions is commonly referred to as the hobbit law much country country Germany name. This country made a horrible. Because I've seen it. It's one of those airline flight videos. Sometimes they show you videos about like this is where your airbags located and all this shit it was based on the Hobbit is it like Greenland or Iceland or Norway or something England. It's along those lines. It's Mark We other Lens Answer Amsterdam that I don't city the country damn a pretty sure. It's a country isn't it was a city where is that from. What city is that from the Netherlands? Answer Damn I don't know God Damn y'All Graffiti. It's not our strong suit. Used to be but it's not. Kate lay lay a slap us with some knowledge. Megan new-zealand oh Dan. That's always trying to think of vessel stroke your area. That's where they film the Hobbit. Yeah I couldn't think of it it. Yeah airline video that I was talking about had actually Elijah Wood in it overly. Yeah it is slow. Okay Kevin. I haven't got one yet. You will have. Heather are probably GonNa get this one. What animal was the sheriff of Nottingham? Disney's Robin Hood shares. The bad guy. The back I was the king. That's the lions king. Yeah Balu was a bear. It's on Fox because that's the fought. That's that's the Robin Hood Guy. Who's the frigging sheriff like a Ferret or now? He's huge. He's animal he's a big animal. Use No what. It's like bear type but it's not a bear. I don't think it's a predator. Definitely a lion. No we've already set this drink. Your Wine Predator Black Panther. No He's not a cat. Oh I know he's not a cat and he's not a bear because that's the Nadan sidekick of Robin Hood is the bear. Oh I don't know how can you not know? I only know that the king fucking henchmen was a snake and he just had a caller slithering snake. You little head. And then he's like it's mean when he so I had ties metal not actually never watched this movie. Do you need to borrow. We have Disney plus but okay. I never really kick myself here because it's not a cat. It's a predator. It's not a bear. The fuck is this. Not An aquatic animal. I know pretty famous Predator. It's not no it's not a cat it's not a bear you'll myself that's I said. A Cat Oh babe um vampire. It's not a dog. It's not a dog it. Oh Yeah it's a dog. It's the type of Dog Wolf O. Type of Wolf. Why don't know anymore types of Wolf? If isn't good enough gray wolf. Oh I should look good. You got worth right well. I knew he had us now in the ears so I guess that's pretty good. Although I should take him to me of not this long because I love that movie I'll have to watch. It could put it on my list. They have some really cute little songs of their about Robin Hood. John Walk through. Four res- relied will add topping K. I did it okay. Didn't they never sure perfect? All right. Tina fey created which popular satirical Sitcom Television series that aired from two thousand. Six to two thousand thirteen so one from office so one from. What's his name that's in it? Third Rock Raton at rocket The one that's got what's his name Alec Baldwin in it does. Yeah but it's not the office. It's the other one it's the it's a street name. Yes it's not this. I've never seen it but I know this is what it's worth. It's an address. Are you guys thinking of parks and REC? No because I can't think of I've really tried to get into the never watched it so I remember it like two episodes and gave up. I can't couldn't do we now. I don't because it looked funny. It looked really funny and it was. Okay what is this thirty rock? That's it so close thirty Rod. Hell Rockefeller Center is what it is. That's the address and it's called thirty rock. Yeah yeah there we go dammit. Vail Guy Hate it when I don't know stuff epic all right Ed go ahead. I like this one. What CONSUMER ELECTRONICS IN VIDEO Game Company was founded in Eighteen? Eighty nine originally produced playing cards. God was the name on all those decks of cards. I should say that he's still don't produce cards but they did started out producing cars. Nintendo really oh totally wrong does just a safe bet every time. Video Games pop. I said that was right so. Kobe still has all the answering sweet or out of my ass with a lot of coaching K. K. Megan. She's trying to find a good one is what is is. What is the name of the professional ice hockey team based in Toronto Canada? Their ducks no. But it's very. It's a very Canadian name. The Canadian that connects no Keith. No it's on animal. Maple leafs Yep I. I'll give you a high five. She kind of did this questions of fucking roller coaster. Okay nineteen seventy nine Malcolm McDowell starting what erotic historical drama film focusing on the rise and fall of a Roman emperor. It's up film group or a series. It's a film Emperor's new group wishes Emperor's new Caesar. I honestly tuned out after about three words into that question. Yeah it's a fucking roller coaster. Request just wait right. Can you like read it again? It's like I can't even handle reading that again. A great. In nineteen seventy nine Malcolm McDowell. Starting what erotic historical drama film focusing on the rise and fall of a Roman Emperor Polian. No that's all he was a French. Emperor was Frenchie. It's not Julius. Caesar Know God and might be about Cesar out. That's not. The name of the movie is at Thor to the Norwegian. Thor or he's from outer space or he's from Asgard Asgard. Yes and Yeah Norwegian. No they blew up asgard so he's from here. He's from here now. He's from nowhere now he's from. Asgard just guard just because has no home. Go to yeah. You just can't go back Galaxy I don't know the answer to now. It's called Kalibbu Ula. Oh you know what I was just going to say that you know what I don't even have. I can't even torquing weird. We're just not not clicking clicking in my head these are ties where I start to feel extremely smart. You can't look up shit on your phone. Heather Kobe what is two plus two? Heather? Those are numbers. What's to Kobe? Can you get it? You're supposed to say what's to three and then your answer is heather. Those are two completely different numbers. Oh Try to get K Megan. You got one. I'm trying to find when you guys will get you just we can. We can get some that you think we might not get. Maybe because we're smart okay. The two thousand six American romantic comedy failure to launch starred. Which Texas born actor Matthew mcconaughey? Yeah how the fuck you know. Hey a Ha Hun hun see. I wouldn't know that correction. I'm trying to find one. Heather will get. Hey when Michael Jordan played for the Chicago Bulls how many NBA championships sitting went. Guess what I actually know that without looking at the answer like five. No you just looked it up on your phone. I know I haven't looked at the answer because I don't need to. I know that I watched all of them all of those championships. I watched care. I've actually I've only ever watched basketball game. One time I was close. I said five but it's wrong. Sixty one three in a row and another three in a row either went to Detroit Pistons Game One time in Detroit. Do you WANNA reward. I do okay. Good kloppers vigil last game. I've ever been to okay. Megan trying to look up. Different sites for Trivia. I thought you had a APP knows a website. It was really good but I don't word is all mine are Sports Ha. I found it. I found it. Okay yes go. Megan go. Megan it's it's got all right what children's classic first chapters titled. The shifting reef shifting. Riff thought you said we're trying to find one. I could get finding Nemo refresh the page so we'll never know the answer laws shit that's not good. Oh okay in Greek mythology. What is the name of the staff carried by Hermes the staff of Hermes? Now I always think about is the little dentist. Want to be a Rudolph from her me. That was her me was not as name. Hermes Moses name know what was his name the Megan Rudolph in who who was a little Elf. But they don't want to be a dentist. Purdy shirts heard staff of Hermes was called. I don't know that's a good. Do you still have the answer? I do one second I got. I'm looking at Rudolph Spring Wannabe. I thought I was her sounds right. I know I'm probably right here. We go it's Herbie her. We want to see it. Megan do you want to see my correct? You still haven't answered the Trivia Question. I this was my answer that this is it. The staff of Hermes called. But I just that was my answer was Hermes from heathers. Stop trying to distract US WITH RUDOLF TRIVIA. Questions answered it. I don't think we know the answer is done this way. I just feel stupid. No absolutely not asked me wine question. Who Played Norman Bates in the Nineteen Ninety eight film? Psycho Merlo Nine Hundred Ninety eight Missouri Cycle Film at Nine Hundred Ninety eight the ninety hours in the sixties they redo it in nineteen. We did it. Oh I don't know I have no idea it. Was that one bitch front screen. Maybe there's a guy I don't know von. Oh what bents. Vaughn's bone the book. That sounds not right. No it doesn't. That's not right. I don't like Trivia. Today we're just going to do like like to born number done okay and then. I'M GONNA come up with way. Great topic next week on the area which Stephen King novel is set at the overlook. Hotel the Overlook Hotel what happens at the Overlook Hotel something overlooked have no idea the shining. Shalini shining like the only one with the hotel. The only one with a hotel. I just watched the shining and not know that. It's not scary scary. The exorcist is scary. Why's that scary Mars back me up on that one? I don't think it is just traumatized. You just exercise. You Watch supernatural. How did this a long time ago? We watched the shining and the exorcist. An extra systems way scarier shining is just some creepy guy. Yeah back till his family because he's of end the little kids I keep saying Red Brown read from. Yeah that's kind of scary. Okay last one lucky refreshed. Who's top refreshing my screen? What company makes reese's peanut butter cups? Hershey got it Nice. Walk Thank you see. I know the importance shit. Light Nice Job Heather Awesome. You can't tell us important information from a movie. You just watch but chocolate. You got that Shit on lockdown. I really do that was awesome. If you would ask me a tooth number I could have done that too. Yeah we could like I could open my mouth and tell her to point to number you now twelve or whatever. She would pay no thirty six. I said Twelve Megan's it goes up to thirty two. Hey if you're special their thirties. You're right you got a whole that would be. You'd be in lot of dental books. Heath Shark they got at least three at God i. That's what I said at least at least threes right. They have at least three and have at least three. I think they have like thousand. I have at least three teeth left. You know what not everybody in the world can say that that's true. There's a lot of people have not. That's true like fish. Have Fish have snakes only have like the banging thinks they don't have any other teas? I don't know they have two teeth. But they don't really use them they just bite down on their thing to kill it. And then they unhinged their jaw and the whole thing. Just go to swallow it whole. You don't have. That's how I eat. I swallow whole feigns our chest to just kill the van them or the. Yeah or I think they'll use it to hold it so they can constrict. Yeah they'll bite it so they can get the coils around it or if they WANNA paraded around pick it up and fucking prey to rally. GotTa you know when. Lily brings in a dead mouse. Yeah I saw a big python. Take on a gosh. What are those little thing a badger? Oh Honey Badger. Honey Badger honey batter wrapped up. It did not look good and then all sudden these two little. They weren't wolves. There was something else your cats. They're not mere cats. It's looks like Mongoose now. It looks just like a wolf but it's from Mike. An African area African wild dogs. It might be a wild. Oh Nice it could be a wild dog so they come in and they're just kind of checking out because you know the got up. Yeah they got. The snake has something coiled up then they start to kind of bite at the snake a little bit enough that the honey badger is able to get out. You'd think the Honey Badger being almost dinner decides to run off. Oh Hell No it's pissed decides it's the snake and it takes the snake. Yeah those honey. Badgers are nasty. We should find the video. Have you ever seen that video guys talking? And like he's like I can't honey badger don't give a shit that's exactly. I'm GonNa find it and pull love funny. Okay thank you guys for listening to this like special very special episode where we have descended into madness. Honey Badgers and iphones dogs. If you guys can't tell we don't know what we're doing so hey we say it all the time that we don't know what we're doing fine. I keep listening though. Yeah Yeah so just you know tune in and drop us a line you know where yes you do and you don't in this your first time listening. Come back again next week and listen again. Yeah Yeah and you can. You can check us out on random stuff dot com jeters around them stuff on facebook and Instagram Or you can drive. Drop us a line at random stuff at Yahoo DOT com. There we go there you go. That's what we should've done. We should have had one episode where we give out like where to get in contact with us and then every other episodes like oh you want to get in contact with US finally episode where we say it's like a treasure hunt or you could just google it and it'll just show up. I'm not a whole lot of other. Nobody has the other but us. Nope we're the only other. Yes so peace out and have a good stay safe stay home. Wash your hands why.

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Episode 54: Dead Loser Boyfriends

Jeather's Random Stuff

42:42 min | 1 year ago

Episode 54: Dead Loser Boyfriends

"Did you know we're talking about yes I do. Hi Hi everybody. Welcome to each other's random stuff. I'm Jacoby I'm heather and together. We make a Jedi We have a special guest guest. Dr Today Stop Calling the Guest Dr. Because she's a report okay. It's low decided that she wanted to drink wine with us today. So she's plus also do those like every other just stopped. We put a microphone in front of her face and said guess what she tried to tell you this I say yes. I'll drink your wine and come talk with you. Yes I mean nine. People listen to us are going to be disappointed subscribers. Wait we have now we do. That's right that's been listening. I Love Yvette. We love you. I love sexy she is. She's like right next door to asked the question and she is so fucking sexy. Yeah she's pretty sexist or how to move that body and she can dance and she has smooth words. You'd better you listening so we all need to go out again going. I ain't doing that that we were talking about doing that. Drink and PUTT OR TAP-IN PUTT. Oh Yeah it's often put that down achy. I have it on my calendar so so let me. We're GONNA DO A TAP-IN PUTT with the village. No just with a couple of randoms village are just some random people out with not everybody. Okay thank you Karen. Oh you're going to get to know gladys gladys is going to go. I mean I think it'd be beneficial for Gladys Knight to get to. Yes get to know each other out of a work. Yes I agree because right now it's fun because it's like drinking and cut. Yeah Pot with the village totally will come to tap and PUTT. It's going to be in a Friday. Seven o'clock Tap-in Putt November twenty second. Okay all right argued that most you listeners. It's a frightening roles or our husbands going. I have no idea. They reason I ask that. The Common Jason Wants to go and then if it's a girl thing we can put them at their own table. Yes Oh there you go there you go golf. He can come any insect at the table. Put them at the table and then the three of us can drink as much swan. That's right we'll have husbands to drive US home. Let's do that no matter. What anybody else does? We'll just three husband's going because the girls always say no no the well. I'm sorry when you get to our age. Yeah we need the walking husbands the drive us. It's just like a set. We gotta come together like it doesn't really matter. I mean seriously them to be able to drive all right. That's it doesn't matter are which one. Or whatever we have three of them they can entertain each other they could entertain each other and then they can do their own little tap and putty Fini. Yeah and and then they can all bond can. I'll watch TV with some kind of sport on. It doesn't matter basketball soccer. Whenever and Dan? Jason will be thrilled and thorough. Be Confused Yeah. I mean he understands most sports but he's not into yeah. Yeah he's he's not no no. It's his only issue with other with bonding with other men. Yeah has non Sports Nobel Awesome sports hours boards. I mean God I educated the shit out of him when I when he met me because I was a basketball stud. Yeah so he had to learn although he knows else golf and he knows golf frisbee golf off other than four. Nobody nobody in our crowd twin brother plays. I guess he's does Jason. Oh maybe we shouldn't get twin brother and thorn together play some frisbee dairy O or used to be really go to the Frisbee Golf. Not so much moved over here but I know I bought them all discs. They're not evan cheap way. More expensive Gulf Ball. Oh Wow now but you ought to buy a club in a ball. Yeah it's just the disc true We all need to just go golf sometime. Yes come up golf the cold right now right now but we need to cut off. Yeah phobe why it'd be shamed hard. Heather Heather listen. I'm listening to you but we're going to be. She does that matter what anyone else's doing we have our own golfing rolls. Okay that's right. We League golf do it. However you want golf by our own rules and it doesn't matter what anybody regardless that's right okay? What win so yeah? I mean the golfing heather rules golfers heather heather par neal's birdie's old to heather. There is no bogeys. Go double triple fucking whatever quadruple. If you don't WanNa Watch me pick up my ball and throw throw it into the hole then just turn your back. Don't look I mean my favorite is the drop into the whole. Yeah carry the ball in the Gulf car all the way up to the green and then drop it in the whole. Yeah because there's no way hit that fucking far too. Happy Gilmore like the backwards club like that we try. You know the pool stick yes. I've done the pool. Stick thing cudi ask Great Wolf Lodge. I did do that group and on in the dark. Whatever Yeah Golf because Megan didn't WanNa do the mini putty kept telling her honey? It's way different with me. Way Way Score we just do it on the poll shot. Capi Gilmore. PUTT for all four of the balls. Yup everybody's balls I just laid on the ground and I just kept putting them in there. I have a picture of that she does. And that's how we play away and that's how I play golf. Yeah I mean it just. Sometimes I play legit most time. I don't yeah that's how the pools going to go. That am I gonNA and a half to get good with this because I have a pool table on the way to my you might have to be good at pool. I duNNo. I can't tell for this. Oh my God this is. I'm ordering the big arcade game this week day in those appliances. I assume yes as soon as you have all that shit together. We're having a big ASS per unit that love my home again party. That's on the bucket list. It's on the love my house. He did party hardy from I lived there for five years. Can't war it's not no. I still love my house. against thirty million everybody bring wine or something up. Say Hey Brian Bottles. aww bring us a bottle of wine do have a wine snack Brennan snap back. I mean as long as a dictate where this wine comes from from. Because I'm kind of wine snob. I know right and we're going to have this big fucking wine cellar going along is going to be able to house often in cases a ton my God I have seven cases of Kyle's one. Oh that's right that's right 'cause they're not gonNA make it any worse so it's like oh well I live all. Let me buy everything that you have literally at the pick up three and a half cases from Leavenworth on flights like seriously Saturday. She's like did you know they're not making Kyle's fair market read anymore. I said what does like our favorite wines like our favorite wedding to do and she said Oh. I bought every case that they had in stock. Okay well how many was on seven and a half cases of it. So I'm like okay. It should last us for you know six months or so so they have to make something else instead. Hope maybe they're gonNA make good said they're probably probably GONNA make another Kyle's but it's different winemaker so it's not going to be the same flavor so maybe it'll be better. Am I be better. But I'm not going to gamble with without so I got almost eight cases of it because you just don't know right shots don't Wanna good or November's a fantastic wine month for me is hey do you have an appointment on Friday. Yes okay never mind. Oh what's up. I want you to pick up my wine club order. Oh usually oh. Will you pick up my wine club. Okay we usually says hey seen after that because I just want the I literally work two few blocks from it. But I'm never going to go pick so can you pick. Oh I get Saturday. Maybe Oh yeah we could get it on Saturday. We'll just get on Saturday today. I'll go on Friday. We'll go on Saturday. I might have to go. Oh I have to work on Sunday. I didn't tell you that while we the fucking work on Sunday has no one else can do it so I have to go open on on Sunday. Yeah are they open on Sunday. I think in seven days a week but oh well anyway. We'll figure it out. I have to pick up my winkler. Wait why would you work on Sunday because no one else it is available and I offered to come open. I just have to open to stay. Why would you offer that because no one else wanted to do it? That's when you stay silent. I stayed silent through all the other ones that people nobody was available for and I finally decided I are we talking on Sunday five minutes. I guess that's okay. I wish my work would only want me for five minutes but then I have to drive. Well no they only five minutes ought ought to pay me ten dollars for the gas. Every time I go to work they pay me ten dollars. That's awesome that's awesome. Yeah actually we're not supposed to talk about that. Well if you go sorry guys you go tastes on Friday you can pick it up writing. I will pick it up on Friday because I like the taste there after my physical go after Cain tortured yeah. It's my word. It's what I think about the hallway and then pursue get wine and Teriyaki wine Teriyaki. Okay and my dog are you talking about the about startup Teriyaki eray row Salton startup. And then it goes gold bar index skykomish pass or we talk about Leavenworth Leavenworth Leavenworth. So I'm talking all those all those little names I just said we're all little towns between Everett and Stevens Pass so when you go highway two you go through all these tiny little towns startup Teriyaki as a whole wall little tiny mini Martha how gas. There's no money Arnie tiny walmart like hall it because you buy everything there if you want it literally everything. Oh Wow you could buy a bad shit there if you want it. Just stop it after that so they get the Teriyaki. They're away and they eat it on the way home gold bar. I've never had the TERIYAKI. We tried a couple of the lot when we try to get it. They weren't clear were closed their clothes Wednesdays and Sundays and they weren't serving it that way it wasn't even a Subeih pay. No it was done that it was like a Friday or Sunday was done. I know what was wrong but they like. Oh we don't have it today. I'm like what the fuck she's never. I've heard about this Teriyaki for years and I and I had my chances because I lived in Seattle for thirteen years. That's Teriyaki decentral and the fucking world startup terrier. He's the best hurry okay ever had on my fucking I have never tried it. It's the best shit. I'm not even joking. Go on highway two you start you stop startup. Is this little hole in the wall. Place you're heading to answers on your right side heading Seattle showing your left side. Stop there or the Teriyaki order some fucking veggies to go stir fry veggies fucking fantastic and then you eat that. I would eat it there because a little awkward little hole in the wall album homeless people stare at you so we usually take down the road Ballpark town. It's fantastic. Eat It. You're GonNa wish you ate it. Every week I try to eat it every the other week. Yeah Heather each week You might want to go back and listen to the episode where we went Vegan for a week and other got the Teriyaki and couldn't eat it. Stop up I had was one piece of chicken. That was yes. She cheated that week and we one piece chicken and I gave all the rest of the ten piece chicken. Thor allotted for me to patrol term. which is really sad that the dog got kick? I got one piece. I got the veggies. See I'm proud of you for not just stuffing your face. I didn't really have one and I felt so guilty. She told me like the next time she saw me. I have to tell you something a piece of Teriyaki chicken chicken again. I eat the whole piece. I ate like half of the peace and give the rest of the year such as got a piece of chicken. God Damn all right okay. Ah to the topic the topic of the night. I printed it out so that I my phone. You sent this to me. Oh my God. I'm so excited headed for this. Which one is it just the very first one you sent to me way? I don't even know the woman that married somebody Sh- wait ch searched anything. Listen because air doesn't know what it's about don't know it's like it's like a surprise. All right ready okay. We're GONNA talk about Rachel Rachel Green. Now Oh Rachel Rachel was just eighteen years old baby When she started dating chef at the local pop in town? Because I don't have that we should make up a town. Tom Just like like what's out. It's a pub so it should be like I don't know none of bill something. Nfl I like NFL. God Ish okay. Scottish Ville I don't know I'm making that up all right can you pass me to win. Oh oh wait. I'm getting away hearing earnings Marwick. Okay so Rachel was just eighteen. She started dating Scheffer local pub. The relationship was just like any other teenage romance and she. She described him as being quote really Nice. Oh that's what you want from a boyfriend. I know if you're described as being like a really nice ice like can you say anything absolutely more generic than that. I mean he's pretty ugly not bad and he doesn't make a lot of money but he's polite. Yeah he's you know really ugly but nicest Shit and poorest shit there we go all right however things took a bit of a turn when her boyfriend who we cannot say as name for legal reasons so by God he lost his job. Oh and he at this must be an England went. He asked to borrow hundreds of pounds from her to live on. So this is England. Could I have some hundreds of pounds please. I have no idea what pounds towns quivalent to with us. How much is hundreds of pounds versus? It's I don't know it's probably about the same as a dollar I think but I'm I'm not sure I might be thinking Canadian money but so it's a lot it's just. I'm sure it's probably a lot all right. So of course she gives them the money right because it's her boyfriend and he just had a bit of a downturn his lock down right suck sweet. Ah So he did try to pay her back a little bit and he pay back like some of it but then they broke up a few months later and he refused to pay her back. The rest of the money went right out the window and she kept trying to get in contact with him and he just stopped replying to Oliver Messages. Because he's like loss chairman. I got a bunch of free fucking money to give to me. I ain't giving her ass ass and then thanks. got a little bit stranger when his friends informed her that the furniture had started needed going missing from his house share. Oh so I don't know what that means. If he was selling it or what cut the furniture was just missing. Furniture is gone bedminster gone. Everything was gone explains Racial Rachel. The initial story ory was he'd gone to Rehab Okay. I don't know how that explains at your furniture. was I went to Rehab so I have to pay forever gone like I don't know what that has to do with little side. No ask for the money yeah. One American dollar equals point. Seven eight pound sterling. Ooh Not even a full pound. It's well says how much is American dollar in UK and it says American money is was more now. The Look at look at American versus Canadian Pound Sterling is also known says the British pound the United Kingdom pound in the United States dollars also knows American dollar the US dollar with a simple oh USA and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Cowley. How do US dollar to Canadian dollar? You know that's US dollars dollar. Okay Google yes heaven when boom it. Please let me see how this me see how I I think it's about equal actually right now the last time I was equal radiance a little better than US really on. US Day equals equals one point one six so it looks like one dollars. Okay seen since Canadian. So they're better better but it's about to be. It used to be way more when I was in high school and I work on the Canadian border who so we had Canadians all the time at my okay. I worked at McDonalds. We're in Faisal goal and we had a little Canadian little thing you it was twenty seven th that yeah Perga- doll was used to be sixty cents because it was almost out. Yeah my wedding dress in Canada. Yeah we paid five thousand. US and my dress was about eight. Thousand dollars in currency is going down address address. Megan I went to Canada three years ago two to three years ago and it was about even then why why is the US US dollar going down so bad we have gold back. We don't it's not based on gold standard anymore. It's not know what's back in our fucking money then naphthalene gene. That's why it's not worth anything anymore. We have no gold. No the only sitting go to Canada now is because you can buy coating over the counter up there. There's a fucking the reason to go to Canada. There's no other reason to go to Canada. I have no reason to go to Canada. You really Cuban now you can get. We'd hear everywhere. Yeah alcohol more expensive in Canada. There's no reason to go to Canada unless you want some coating. I can't take coding quite so you have no reason to go to Canada them. Not Coming to you anytime all right back to back to our story. The he's in Rehab in the furniture is gone gone. This guy looks like a shady asshole all right so oh tenue before. She was very curious and she was starting to kind of investigate. What the fuck was going on right? Because he owes her money yeah. He owes her money any so nice all the time. He's a cousy is old buddy. Not If rehab awesome all right before she had tied to really investigate the X.'s. Mom called or message Chur and said that her son had it died what he died. The MOM said this a mom said that he died. Okay so it's not mom. The MOM mum. What's Mum Mama's mom right? Yeah that's mom and my England. Oakland me it's also canadianness. Mum Mum my mum. Mum's is Tawny says. Show US my mom all right. So what what Rachel say all right so he died. So he's I don't believe Ah fucking gone so she says it sounds stupid. In retrospect die supposedly. Well you know she doesn't say it doesn't say so. Mom just studied a mom said he died okay so radio kind of grieved it in her own way and she moved on right shit all my pounds shit I love my pounds I lost my pounds so she grieved. Dan Wasn't going to get her money back he's dead. She moved on two years later so to two years. Two breath years later. A can't wait to hear this ship. She went back to her hometown with a friend and they went to restaurant to get something to eat and while she was there she was stunned to discover that the ex boyfriend that she thought was dead was very much alive and working in the restaurant the working working in a restaurant so not dead discussing pounds. He's he's still a loser. Yep still a loser so she says I went into shock because hello hello to be dead. She grieved over her pounds owns and her ex before she can confront him. The I guess management came and asked her to leave. The restaurant must've said something to the management to get her like she's a psycho bitch maker B. O.. He said some kind of lie. So you like what do you do like literally. What do you do with him? And I would have been extreme as soon as they told me to leave. I would've made a fucking it would have been like. Oh you want me to leave because this guy told me two years ago that he was dead because he wanted to get out from pain me back as money. Yeah okay all leaping Eh. The whole restaurant understands what a scam artists. SCIUTTO fucking Shit. Well he two years shits shits so she wasn't really sure what to do so she decided to go talk to the police gay. Hey however the police said they can't help her as it was just her word against his basically. He's he her. His mom told her that he died but she didn't check into it she didn't ask for de-certification asked for anything. Why would you ask for a desk for your ticket? If you're a girl for right but yeah it's I mean life Risi. She just believed it. So that's kind of on her to just believe it. I would you believe it. If someone's mom friends mom calls you and tells you her son's dead. Why would you not believe that? Well and then I'm thinking well well. Maybe she's kind of maybe she's a little psycho and Emma and the boyfriend just wanted to get rid of her or something. I don't know maybe it's on high mountain it. It'd be like that. That is the point. But if she was psycho that he should have done something a little bit more so than just having faked his own death. Yeah Yeah I mean that's pretty. It's pretty weak. Fake your own. Data's flakes terrace. If I if I just had like my brother call people go yeah. Kobe Diet like I feel like there's people that would be like wait. Wait a second funeral funeral. I what if your body like heather would be like. Where's your God down body? I WANNA bucky CNN right now rituals I'm going to do to make sure that we are set for life injury. podcast you guys said that you wanted to where you wanted to her heather you you want to be in jewelry passed so I take it. You're willing heather going right. It needs to be alone with the body before I say he's I can arm or something so I can get a piece of jewelry. I brought my new knife. I body stickier. Minute is with me and my little lock it. We are ready to roll ready out here. I'll all be gone in an hour. Just leave you alone with the body. Am I knife I got on your will. We're going to allow ought to have cremated so I can put it on a piece of Julie's wait until I'm cremated for hacking pieces of me off if they're not going to cremate you Kobe. I can't promise that all right they're gonNA keep you whole hack. A piece often made it and put it into bill free to listen to tell you all right Alpha through to cremate me if I don't give a shit planning on have jewellery ambitions Right so anyways. The police said your word against his. I can't help you so later. That night the excess mother got in contact once again. The franken Liar Liar. Oh Shit this. It's time to complain that Rachel had caused a scene at the restaurant and the sun had come fired because she made she didn't so she didn't make the scene she did make a scene Jamaica seen right dead person yeah. She's like what wait. Maybe you thought you're seeing a ghost. Who knows walk into someone told me they were dead and also ran into them old? Fuck yeah making a scene whether or not I actually think they're a ghost or not not making a scene Servizi but the again. It's the mother-in-law there that's taking the mothers calling her and and yelling at her because the sun got fired because because apparently he's a fucking pussy and he can't stand well and he faked his own and he had the monarch happens. When Mommy dearest is what the fuck happened is he won't be able to do anything right? He can't fake his death anymore. He can't have her call and yell at his ex girlfriend girlfriend. Does he fucking live with. Mommy probably is as men. And if there's a basement he lives in basement he just has a little all caught in her bedroom. Guy Dance Motel croupier psycho. Go Shit Right. All of this whole saga has left this poor woman. Rachel just really like what the fuck with someone to date you tell you why she liked doesn't understand what the fuck went on right. Her biggest wishes issues that she would just sit down with him and talk it through. She's like I have so many questions I she does but she's never been able to sit down talk with him Dr hy because she'd probably asked what God damn money back. Yeah and he has no money because he's unemployed. Waiter yeah so basically. She's out the money he lied. And how does mom in on this whole thing saying he was dead. But there's no oh proof that he tried to fake his death because he didn't ask for. Isn't there proof we are talking about it right now. All we just have her word that the MOM said He. He's dead that's it so he didn't get collect any like life insurance or anything like that so really. No crime was committed he. He just lied and away from her. There are crimes committed by saying that because I know there's been individuals that I know not close and personally their family from marriage when they get collections noted. They actually send a letter letter saying that. They're they're not well. In that case you do have to provide a death certificate. They can't yes so then it doesn't count. They know. I mean we know this now because they're still going after. Why when somebody dies and you need it is very fucked up one Catholic if you don't know this when someone dies yet to provide the death certificate will have to provide a desert now? Death certificates are provided to you by the funeral home and you have to pay for them. It's a certified death certificate. You have to pay ten bucks walks for every one that you get and you might need for every creditor or insurance plays or anyone. It's like when somebody dies in your family like I had a family member pass away my husband's family. We had to buy like ten death certificate again because you have to provide a certified death certificate to prove that this person has body to to give you the gas how the body and they have to have a funeral home issues. The death certificates okay but the funeral home gets Dadi in this case they get the body from the hospital. Because that's where the person right passed away So the hospital spittal verifies the person died. legit okay yeah. Here's a certified death certificate. You don't have to pay back. ACT THAT CAR loan. Yeah Oh my God. What is Rachel do? Nothin' what's she has. She has zero legal. Recourse in this. Oh Awesome Shero also. She's like just confused so she called the mom back and she is broke and confused at this point and she can do nothing. mm-hmm a she broke. I don't know probably get one hundred pound hundred pounds hundreds of pounds so Ohio. I'm sorry to beginning. It does say she was Australian which is with Australian here? Sorry that's is a British ascendant. Gosh so basically. She gets Nice that guy. I is like the most fucking cowardly man filtering like I want. I WANNA actually say he's like I want the story to end. You know what the story would end does that. She takes them small claims court. She's actually able to prove because she has phone recording of the phone conversations as a mom her. She doesn't but if she did that'd be fantastic right. Like how do you win something like that but if you have on these recordings I'm talking about bank statements which role so you can show you withdrew on. The the thing is us if as if you're dating at the time and she gives him money he's GonNa say Oh gift if there is no if there's no paperwork you there's no no way you can't prove that it was not a guest gesture fall even if you draw one just by your hand if you ever ever are going to give someone money expect to be paid back you better write that fucking shit down and make them sign it. I am so glad because you will not get that bad. Every time I give money out I have zero zero. There's absolutely none and I've given all you just hold on just like give the money go. I've never seen that again. That's right. I even the tax write off. So she's just heartbroken and broke damn heartbroken financially. Trust Nice guys. Naive is finished. Although my husband's really nice are you sure. He's not overly nice lacy ever ask you for money you know. I'm going to go on a truth here that my husband is extremely nice. He is any all all the money in her house. Because you spend all the money Weinstein crafts crabs and rescues. You know so. It's pet rescues and furniture tables and full remodel that house. Yeah thanks baby love you. How parents you're right now? You're at work right now. Thank you thanks for. Don't work that much although I have decided to keep working although he keeps trying to make me retire. I don't know why you don't retire if you need some. Do I have a list of Shit that you can do way this as you're listening I'm GONNA I'm GonNa see which way is better my job or your list. Hey with my job you if you work for do Myla's you. You don't have to deal with any people. There's a pro there but I just have to deal with other cats. That are not your cats. What's your cat my cat? Oh expands for you to take her right now. We need heather zetel world. Hi Skills with my matrix pans which I didn't realize this until are working with us. It's phenomenal yes. I didn't know that I have to Redo we do Tara's every time she never titans them Tara. Tighten your fucking matrix nears after Drostan. Neither Matt none of you guys you guys all right then. Let's say listen Linda. That's why you can't retire. Los Angeles thing you guys this. What tight near bands are a thought? He tightened both the liberal. You can't tighten the one. He could be tightened and tightened more says. And if you guys aren't going to tighten your bands all hell's going to break loose here. It's GONNA be already Magadan around here. You've got to do it. I fucking guys and the wedge in there and Shit it's done I don't even know what she's talking about just ban. Sorry sorry organizes all dental assistant jobs here but it's very say it's not very difficult. Talk about stopped dentals. Talk about my job your job. Scott Green Lena Hell Hey accountant. County has not boring supergun and I guess the only the the fun thing you pay people I get to pay people and I get to Goddamn spreadsheet what. Who's Lemme ask? Yeah why is it that you're really good. Xl on the scale with your company. You don't work there. Why does that matter? Uh We should hire US somehow. You Guys WanNa work down there. I don't know maybe I mean not that much but I wanna get paid me up on the excel spreadsheet that she gave. I'll pay you some free fucking dental work on that we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. We're GONNA trade already doing that. Pay Hey skill. I will tell her tomorrow. Friday works good for me. Yeah Okay you Fridays. And we'll give you some options. Yeah arid arid and how. They're going to clean my mainly Erin. I'm just there pester both of you just GonNa stick this section thing in my mouth and I'm GonNa take some amazing amazing x rays before to make sure your fricken watch number thirty or so good. I think it's thirty. I'm not sure we'll look at all of them because that's the same extra on thirty museum that we're going to just take a good look at just if you guys look at it and go you know what it well then. We'll make dress and drill it out real quick. I guess what. He's the most conservative that as we own kid. We drill we we own. I own you dude. I don't like it to have my mouth numb. Can you do without that. Maybe you're willing to go without the with the pain. I'm willing to do whatever Aaron may not be just a may not be willing to let you self inject so we get numb. Tell really I hate it when my mouth now so I in order the reversal agent that super expensive for they sure that that is one. CARBS dice ordered Super Expensive Shit to use me that I'm not GonNa pay for tested out. Let's test it out. Yeah yeah trial. You'd probably find some company you do that do that do that. There actually is agent now that you can inject when you're done with the procedure for the NFL yourself agent and I've heard it's very expensive a sample find on Monday. Wait what days today. I guess we could do it. fucking morale up Dana. Go to work. Tomorrow we're off on Wednesdays barely into the week here Heather Tomorrow Day workweek. Sorry sorry by the time this comes out. It's Friday God damn it or the post it again Monday. We all research this shit. We'll talk talk to whoever was okay for good just like heather. Heather jam duties help again. What's your microphone? I just had a good conversation listeners. All all of you listeners. Out there that was comical ahead. Fuck okay well. Lagasse stop touching around for the class. Three podcast hasn't been giving. It's like you always. I think whatever Mike you have weights you this flipping on me. Tell being really good. I'm sorry I literally. I'm sorry guys I all right. That's all worrisome. Issue Right we baby. Oh Mama Mama you sir okay. Sorry sorry all right well. That's it for US tonight. Okay we're gonNA finish our wine and If you drink tonight walk why Challange thank thank. You lost ladies

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Which will get to write off the top here. In the podcast. Jake trotter. Also joining us. Hello, jay. Yeah. Well, you guys were working. I was eating chocolate last night. So. Are you always eating chocolate though? Isn't it? The whole thing or not to the level. I did last night. Yeah. You have a little one. How is how is how is the first Halloween? Same same here. We both have we both have new arrivals. Yes. Dorothy us two and a half. She was a little piggy. And then THEO are eight month old he was a cow. And by the way, this is kind of the first year actually really trick or treated with Dorothy. And it is like it is hard it down. We hit like six houses. And I was like I'm I'm done with this. Toughen up buttercup. I know right. I'm soft. I'll I'll get there. But by the way, that's your like peak Oklahoma with those costumes, Jake. I mean, you know, you're you're kind of filling a stereotype with. We were barnyard. I was a Cal to in my big. So I'd like to see the you. I'll send you I'll send you photo off air. Don't worry. Gotcha. We have a quite a show for you today. Rob mullins? The college football playoff selection committee, chairman will be joining us a little bit later. Oiseaux? Have talked dirty to me with Brad Edwards and Seth Walder, but we'll start with the big news out of Maryland, which is fired football coach DJ in one day after reinstating him from paid administrative leave. We'll talk about that and much more. Once we get out of the tunnel. Time to come out of the tunnel on campus conversation. Okay, guys. We'll obviously the huge news in college football happened in college park Maryland on Wednesday night on Halloween night as Maryland fired football coach DJ Dirk and just one day after reinstating him. You know, I'm told that university. President Wallace Loh made this decision alone. He did not consult the university system board of regents which on Tuesday had recommended that Durkin be reinstated Heather had been told and others that while it's low didn't wanna bring Durkin back. But essentially was given an ultimatum by the board of regents who has the authority to fire low that have hey, you don't do this. We're going to fire you, but with a tremendous outcry from politicians, including Maryland governor, Larry HOGAN, a lot of criticism in the media, and you know, a rally from the student government that was going to happen later this afternoon on campus. Ultimately while slow decided that DJ Durkan could not continue as. The coach athletic director Damon Evans fired him late Wednesday afternoon. And then went into tell the team. So just a a wild day and night in college park. I began the day there, our colleague, Tom Ben Heron ended the day there. And did some great reporting last night. Heather you were traveling back from the college football playoff selection meeting initial meeting. I was also traveling back home as we reported the story last night. What what what what what was your reaction? What were your biggest takeaways from the news out of Maryland? Well, let me say that I landed in my phone was completely out of batteries. It was dead. It was off. I plugged it in as soon as it came on one second later, I got a text from a source that said they fired him period. And I was his baggage clan. BWI? It was like oh my goodness. I was shocked, but when you step back, and you think about all of the backlash that Wallace low face. I it's not surprising because it was so significant not just from local state politicians all the way up to congress Washington DC voicing concern about bringing him back. So. To me, though, it goes even beyond that, and it goes into higher education. Because if you read Wallace statement he noticed that he met with deans and chairs departments. There is an academic side to this. There are tenured professors who I'm sure spoke out and voice their concerns about the decision that was made. And so I think having literally stepped away from the board of regents and being back on his own campus that liberation maybe combined with the optimal timing of all this backlash. I think made it much easier for Wallace low to to make that decision. HD? You mentioned the backlash. Did you guys think this was going to happen because the backlash was pretty severe across the country. About the initial decision. Maryland may did you think that they were gonna come back and fire Dirk or did? It seem like maybe go either way. Well, I, you know, I didn't I thought that the backlash was going to come more from players leaving the program transferring quitting things within the locker room type stuff, and obviously recruiting I guess, I was surprised maybe naive to think it wouldn't be such a political plush, but. That's how it is. That's that's what happens and that was that played a part of it as well. How about you, Adam? Yeah. I mean, I think as the day went along, and I think I landed a little earlier than you would certainly following it on social media, just the number of people that were weighing in especially the governor second statement, I was doing an interview on Sirius XM with our Powell Matt Schick and Ben heart stock, and they read me the statement from Larry HOGAN, which was in the late afternoon on Wednesday. And it was a much stronger worded statement than the initial one that he put out on Tuesday. That's when I started to think, you know, what it may just be too hard for them to go forward with Turkey. And we already knew that Wallace flow the university. President didn't wanna bring him back was we're reluctant to bring him back. Didn't even mention durken's name in his initial comments at the board of regents news conference in Baltimore on Tuesday. And so I that was the first time I thought, you know, what this could be possible. And then we certainly started getting word from Maryland. Hey, standbys something. Is going to happen. I got word from somebody in the program. Something is happening. And then obviously the next response or next message was that Durkin had been fired and left the building. So it was just a stunning turn of events in there. Obviously, some Maryland players that spoke to the media outside the stadium outside the gossip football team house on Wednesday night, but mardi McNair. Let's not forget how this what this really is all about. And this was the tragic death of Jordan McNair back on June thirteenth from heatstroke after he suffered that during a may twenty ninth team workout, and Marty McNair was outside in in college park. Addressing what this has been like for him. And Jordan's mother Tanya the last five months culminating with DJ durken's firing on Wednesday. The last five months literally been a emotional roller coaster. This just as an this is a scam that just won't AO due to the media. Attention of what we've what we've got. I was even telling my legal team yesterday. That was extremely. Increasingly overwhelming just in regards to, you know, have read about my son every day or just seeing that it was a question that Justice wouldn't be served regarding any type of accountability for Jordan Steph here yesterday, but the last five months literally been a emotional roller coaster for me and my family. I mean, the last twenty four hours had I I was in Baltimore for the news conference at the attorney's office after the board of regents made their recommendations were mardi McNair. I asked him directly. What's your reaction to this decision? And he said it's like being punched in the stomach and spat in the face. And and then he's obviously in a different position last night. You'll Heather you gotten to know the McNair family well during this process. What do you think this is life for them now with this decision and just the totality of these these months since their son passed away? I can't even imagine I cannot imagine. And I say that as a mother who is still beyond blessed to have all three of my babies, and it's just you know. Tonya Wilson, Jordan's mom, and that her New York, and when I saw her it humanized, the whole thing, and I wish people would see them and hear hear more of what they have to say. Because the more they speak, the more you hear the emotion and the more people realize this is what this is all about. This is what it has always been about was the players the players, and that's it period end of story and for them to continue to have to deal with this every single day. She looked me in the eye and told me that she found out about what happened to her son on that practice field by reading article, and I was sick to my stomach because I remember when we wrote those words, I knew she would read them. Yeah. That's unbelievable. When I think about this story when they initially announced that Durkin was coming back. I I couldn't believe it. Because you read some details. Most mostly coming from you guys and your reporting what the strength coach and just the atmosphere that they had created. And I was surprised that you know. So like low was going to retire. Right. He's going to retire. Anyway, already been announced why did he overrule the board initially? And what do you guys think the repercussions for the board are going to be now given the backlash against them for making the initial decision. Right. Well, I think low sort of a compromise that they they were going to tell they were going to fire him, right then. And there his tenure was going to be over if he didn't bring back DJ Durkan that was so fun. If I'm going to retire fiery. Right. I mean, right. Yeah. That's fair point. I think Heather, and I. Heather, and I had been told was that, you know, low had other things unfinished business he wanted to do on campus other projects around going. He wanted to make this a functional athletic department, whether that's even possible. But you're that came across very clear in the investigative report that there were major major issues in that athletic department. And you know, he he he picked Damon Evans. He's standing standing by Damon Evans as Budig director. And he thinks he can at least get this thing on the better footing going forward. But I think now it'll be interesting because the board still has the authority to remove low. They could choose to do that they would face tremendous political backlash if they do do that. And there's even I think there may be more heat Heather on the board itself because the governor has made it clear that he's not happy with them. And he has the authority. I mean, he points all the region, so he can dramatically shake up that board if he chooses to well, not that's the thing that I was going to mention is that there are still plenty of unanswered questions. I mean, we don't know. Knock on wood. Because this story changes every three minutes as of right? The second. I don't think we know what the future of Damon Evans's. I don't think we know what the future of James t Brady is the chair of the board of regents because as you mentioned on them. There are politicians who have said, you know, he should be replaced as well. And so yes, the governor does a point these positions which again goes back to my same before there is a very political side to this getting the governor. I don't know if it's the same every state, but can the governor just say this region is gone, and I'm gonna appoint a different one. Is there a political process that the governor has to go through or? Up to that one person to great question. I'm not sure of the answer of it to be honest. Yeah. We've learned a lot about the regions. They're setup what they're allowed to do the whole bylaw. I mean, there's all sorts of things I didn't think I'd be getting into when we started digging into the story back in early June Jake, but obviously we'll continue to monitor and report the Maryland story. We'll have some additional pieces of content on ESPN dot com in the coming days. I mentioned Tom van Heron is in college park. We'll have other reporters there as they have a game this weekend against Michigan state Maryland trying to get bowl eligible against the Spartans on Saturday afternoon. I this is an awkward transition. But we do talk about the games here on the campus conversation podcast, and we have some great games this weekend. Guys, November third is one that I circled for weeks and weeks, maybe even months just because of the potential, and it seems to be living up to it, obviously, Alabama and LSU is the big one. But also, Georgia and Kentucky in the east division of the SEC. West Virginia at Texas is a big game. So a pen. State Michigan and Notre Dame China's stay undefeated against my alma mater, northwestern. I'll be at the game on Saturday night. In Evanston, Jake. Have you can you remember a particular regular season weekend that stacks up with the one that we're about to witness here on Saturday? Well, Josh macrey said before we went on the air that week one last year, according to see low stacked up to this one. I can't even remember who played week what last year. Now it goes so long ago. But I mean, it's got to be up there considering how many top ten top twenty five match ups. We have in so many that are going to impact the playoff. I mean, look at Alabama and LSU, obviously, those two teams what happens is going to affect them. But the domino effect of let's say LSU beating Alabama we'll be significant in places like the big twelve or in the big ten or even in the SEC. So there a lot of games that are going to have a significant impact on the college football playoff race this weekend. And in the case with some of these games. It's not it's not only who wins and loses. But the teams that are watching that game from afar that could be impacted by them as well. Heather, obviously, your primary focus other than Maryland is is the playoff. I mean, how how much will this weekend shape, the ultimate selections in your mind? Well, it's the biggest impact weekend week weekend that we have remaining as far as the playoff goes. And I think it does start with LSU Alabama LSU loses their done, but to me Alabama needs to win this game. Because if they run the table as expected then and play Georgia in the SEC championship game, if they lose to Georgia, and that's their only loss in the SEC championship game to me, then their strength of schedule comes under the microscope. And that's when they need that statement win against LSU to help get them in for a second year as a top fourteen without winning the SEC title if they lose that game. Then then I think that it's much more difficult for them. Yes. Get in Alabama's best win so far. And if they lose to LSU what will be their best wind going into. Big SEC championship game. Am. Right. Unless an MS three losses. It's it's hard to find one. I mean, the Tennessee the crossover game doesn't help. And you're the SEC west as much as we talked it up before the year. Maybe it'd be it'd be Mississippi State it Mississippi State and get on a little roll. But but both Mississippi State have I believe at least three losses. So it's going to be hard to find anything. Auburn's not going to help them a whole lot. So it's going to be an interesting situation here as we get closer to a selection day guys just for perspective here because you mentioned what we were talking about before the show, and I misspoke, it was actually week one in twenty teen that yeah that was touted as the the weekend of the century, so to speak you had Clemson Auburn that weekend you had USC against Alabama that weekend that was the Oklahoma Houston game that weekend. So that was the weekend that going into the season Florida state ole miss was also that we can Notre Dame. Territories text. Yeah. That was that was the. Texas is backed gag I one, and so that's that was the weekend that a lot of people were touting as the best one of all time. I thought it was thanks for stepping. Because I would I would have sounded like an idiot. People have been going through that 2017. Weep. But you you appropriately threw me under the bus when you said it by by saying that idea I I was gonna take the blame for that naturally. And with that, we are very pleased to welcome in rob Mullins, the athletes director at the university of Oregon and also the chair of the college football playoff selection committee. Rob thanks so much for joining us here on campus conversation now you've had a couple of day or soda removed from the initial CFP rankings. I'm just curious from your perspective. What it's been like since you and your group revealed the rankings, and obviously you had to go and defend the rankings in now getting ready for the second lot and a couple of days. What what what what's the last twenty four hours been like forty eight hours been like for you? Well, I appreciate you guys have a me. And well, you know, obviously, you do the immediate media piece right after the ranking ESPN television pieces, well as a teleconference, and then we did a little Facebook laugh piece, but for me. Wednesday's traveling home. Dallas to Eugene doesn't have a very direct. Route of I spend about a third of that twenty four hours just trying to get home. And then I get caught up on my regular job also trying to weave in some media parts as well. I wanted to ask you about Washington state a little bit more because to me that was the biggest prize because we talk so much about strength of schedule in how you guys evaluate these teams. And they don't have one non conference power five opponent on there yet you got like them enough to put them at number eight can you get into some more specifics about that team? And why the committee liked them? Sure. You know, obviously, a metric one piece of it. And then shrink schedule is a big piece. No doubt. But when we looked at Washington state, and then they get on the board. And you can see what range they were in their, you know, I'll St. West Virginia and Washington, they all have similar type non-conference or strengthen schedule I guess overall. But now when you look at Washington state in what the grad transfer quarterback and how he's picked up that offense and what they've been able to do quality win against Utah really tough road loss at USC. And probably in approving defended that they don't get enough credit for because there's so much attention on their offense. But overall the committee felt that they were a quality team and deserve that that ranking at number eight eight rob I think a lot of people weren't -ticipant eating UCF was going to be ranked pretty low. They came in at twelve th which to me said that you guys the committee had a lot of respect for them. Even though they didn't they only have I think one power five victory. So can you kind of go into detail about where the committee what the committee thinks about UCF at this point? Sure, you know, for those of you that have been to the mock, you know, that there's a thing here. They get on the board in pools in you know, you end up with a lot of discussion. And while I stated in numerous interviews while they do not they're the only team in the FBI. It doesn't have a win. That has a doesn't have a win against a team that has a winning record after week nine. We still watch the games. And understand what kind of offense. They have the experience quarterback that they have. And when you put them on the board in that, you know that ten to to fourteen range the committee felt that you know at seven and now with what you see on the field. They're deserving that. Number twelve ranking. Rava Alabama and Oklahoma or two teams that have just dominated most of their opponents. They haven't been in very many close games. I'm just curious the discussion of both of those because as dominant as they've been they neither team has necessarily played a schedule like LSU has played or Michigan or some of the other teams that are in that mix. What what was the conversation like specifically about Alabama and Oklahoma their schedule and also just their performance on the field? Right. Well, when you look at Alabama. While their schedule by numbers may not be as strong as some others. They do have a quality win over Texas down, but you know, again data's one part of the equation. And the committee members watch these games when you watch Alabama UC an incredibly efficient offense, and they're still very strong on defense. So in watching them, you know, they've been a dominant team Oklahoma again outstanding offense dynamic quarterback that win at Iowa State. I is gaining value because of the quality of team Iowa State has become and they only have lost by three points on a neutral field, Texas. So again, you know, you're looking at both of those programs probably have two of the strongest offenses in the country. Alabama has a strong defense to go with it in the way, they're winning games. And you know, Oklahoma's offense has carried them. But it does look like they haven't improving defense. I wanted to ask you about the dynamic in the room because it's not often people get to hear from somebody who's in there and this year, there are five former coaches, and I think the previous high was was four. So this is the most that there's ever been what kind of weight do their voices carry an what specifically how do they help because of their perspective and their background? I'm talking about guys like Frank Beamer's in their can have fields in there. There's significant knowledge in that room as far as coaches. Well, I mean, I think that's the beauty of why this committee has worked. So well on the first four years is you do have thirteen diverse. Opinions you've got athletic directors. You've got coaches, you have a former journalist you have a former all player. So, you know. That's why it works. You got thirteen outstanding individuals who understand the task who check their head at the door. To apply the integrity to the process that required. And you know, we debate all these things and yes, coach's perspective is extremely helpful. As is a former players as as a former journalist as experienced athletic director. So that's why this works. And then when you get those, you know, you have that that that vigorous debate and your thorough on every resume. You have all these comparative tools inability to watch all these games. And then then you put it to a competent you'll vote and the results have gotten it. Right. So far. How difficult is it? Rob to manage the balance between putting your opinion into the into the mix air, and then reflecting the consensus opinion at the end of the day and. Kind of balancing your energies between those things because you gotta go on TV and explain the opinions of people, you might not share that opinion. Yeah. I mean, I think that's again, the beauty of having an outstanding committee with people who understand the the enormity of the task the importance of the task. And you know, as Mr. Hancock laid out for me, you know, when he asked if I would serve as a chair, and in the chairs job is to really make sure that we are thorough and that we do in a gate in a full debate. And even at calms, you know, call on somebody to play devil's advocate to make sure we're thinking of this on every angle one of the one of the advantages. I had as being on the committee for two years and seeing somebody like Dr rice really who has incredible diplomatic experience. You know? Put in a system whereby you try to think of every angle you ask somebody to play devil's advocate. So that you make sure that you cover every piece of this. And that's the that's the role that I play to make sure that we flush out every single thing that we have a thorough conversation about each piece. And then you know, when the vote comes out it comes out, and it is my job to go. Explain it, and I am just the voice of the committee. So whatever the committee decides I will percent. Robin this initial rankings. Was there a debate that either was had or that was extended in the room that that was that surprised you either we're a team should be ranked or a cluster of teams. And maybe you didn't anticipate talking about for such a long time or debating for such a long time. Yeah. Great question. You know, when you go inside that room? There's a lot of debate at a lot of levels. But I would say, you know, again in every group there's lengthy debate. But I would say on this first one which is consistent with previous wants to eighteen through twenty five. It's extremely difficult with only nine weeks of data. You know, and you're looking at, you know, one loss team for too long teams versus three teams and trying to measure, you know, their schedules their results as well as a data eighteenth twenty-five and really even more than that. Because you start with a pool of somewhere between thirty three and thirty eight teams he tweaks so you're really looking at eighteen probably through thirty two or thirty three. And that is extremely difficult, and you spend a lot of time on it because it's important. So have Alabama analysis you both in the top four georgeanne Kentucky both of the top ten. We've got West Virginia playing Texas this week a lot of big games. How much can it change? I'm not asking you. How much will it change or what's going to happen? But how fluid can the second ranking be? Well, I mean, again, one of the things that's a hallmark of this process is that we start with a clean sheet every week. So, you know, we're done with the rankings after week nine, and we'll all you know, watch the results starting of the games on Tuesday all the way through Saturday. We'll walk in there with a clean sheet of paper and start this process. All over making sure that we don't look forward that we only measure the results today. So as you've seen in past years, that's the beauty of college football, right? A lot of things happen. Speaking of that. Is there anybody used see maybe off the pace right now that could be that team that makes that late charge? We've seen teams in the fifteen range get into the playoff the last month of the season. Anyone anyone outside maybe that five six rains that? You think is going to be a really interesting team to watch you in the next couple of weeks. They've got us when we agreed to take these assignments. And we lock in on the protocol. We really don't look forward. We don't we don't we're not predictive. We just focus on the results. So I haven't even spent any time thinking about that. You know, what I'll do now is start watching the games, and then gather my data, and then we'll look at what has happened through the first ten weeks, and again, we'll start with that blank sheet of paper. And we'll go through our ranking exercise again. Leave that to us, basically. Well, you know, it's funny. This is. The beauty of of this process. And there's a lot of debate about whether you start the ranking in week nine or later, it's great for college football. There's so much passion. There's so much energy. I think it was Mike tirico who said at one of the mock exercises, you know, the currency a college football is passionate debate. And these rankings certainly bring out a lot of that. Rob last question for you. Have you guys renamed that area outside the meeting room? The Heather dentists atrium yet. We should Heather. Is one of the hardest working people in college athletic. I'll tell you that she's logging a lot of miles covering a lot. And we see her in the fitness room. We see her the the mail room. We see her in the meeting room, we see her in the hallway so credit, the Heather, she's ostlund. Thank you guys need to get our share their outside. Here's what here's what I you know, Heather comes into the meeting room on Tuesdays and take some photos. We should've turned to cameras around because as a nod to Halloween she came in with with the witches hat and. That was fun to see. That's that's the beauty that room is at the sanctuary is all after record, man. Not anymore. Right. We turn it. I just wish there was photo proof of it. Robbery. We really appreciate you. Joining us rob Mullins, you'll see him talking about the CFP rankings every Tuesday for the next few weeks leading up to the big one in in early December on December second so thanks again for joining us today on the canvas conversation podcast. Thank you guys. I appreciate you having sure appreciate what you do for college athletic. No, everybody. You're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper where every day is Saturday and everyone's fan even babies and the seasons never chained because they only season is college football season. Get a taste of fans Ville this full during a college football game near you, Dr Pepper the official drink of fans Ville grab some today. Talk nerdy. To me. I'm Brad Edwards along with Seth Walter and is Thursday, which means that we're going to talk to you about this weekend's games in which ones will have the biggest impact or at least could have the biggest impact on the playoff race. Now, we do this at this time every week. And last week, we told you the biggest game of the weekend was Georgia, Florida. They're five games this week that rate higher on the scale than Georgia Florida did a week ago, which means it's a huge weekend of college football. Yeah. Absolutely. A ton can change this weekend. Ken state at Michigan is number five. And that's a big game. I think. Penn State actually, ranked seventh in FBI which goes to show. How tricky is spot? This actually could be for Michigan even in Ann Arbor. Number four is Oklahoma at Texas Tech. Number three is Georgia at Kentucky Notre Dame at north western number two spot that some people think this might be wear Notre Dame ships up and then the big one Alabama adults you in Baton Rouge. We'll talk about that game in just a little bit. But first of all something related to that is it's related because it involves Alabama's quarterback. I was looking at some of his numbers and just how sick they are. And what occurred to me is that he's not the only one having a phenomenal season right now at quarterback. Kyle Murray of Oklahoma is just barely behind to entitle QBR. And I looked at the best total QBR through the month of October in our data set, which goes all the way back through the two thousand four season. There'd been a lot of great quarter. Bax during those years to what and collar Murray rank one into in best QBR through October after them to pretty star-studded list, Bryce, petty at Baylor who is the least heralded of the rest of the group followed by Russell Wilson. Marcus mariota Jameis Winston and Andrew luck. When you see those names on a list, and then you see two and Kyle Murray at one and two on that list that just tells you that we are watching maybe to the best quarterback seasons that we've ever seen in college football. I I don't think that's a stretch to say that neither do I we didn't even mentioned Baker Mayfield. Obviously did impress things that Oklahoma before Murray the thing that's crazy for me about Murray is that he's actually QBR is a rate stat. And so he's doing it on more plays because Oklahoma's defenses and shutting down opponents the way the Alabama's is. I don't want to take that away from too because it's not fair to punish him. For Alabama just blowing everyone out and having to be out of the game in the fourth quarter. But it is remarkable that Murray has been able to sustain that level of plaque. You talk about to being out in the fourth quarter. Is this kind of brings us back to the Alabama LSU game. You look at Alabama's first half numbers. And it's crazy because they're averaging thirty nine points in the first half this season. And you try to guess what? What could they do if they just kept the pedal down for four quarters? And I think if you just kinda double that they might be averaging like seventy five points a game. If they were actually just trying to score at that same level for four straight quarters with two in there. And then you ask the question. Okay. If if LSU were to slow them down, I mean, maybe like half of what they've been doing. What would that be that might be like thirty eight points in the game? Which again, if Alabama scores thirty eight LSU's got no shot. And so that's the challenge that LSU's facing here is that. It's not just holding Alabama to half of what it normally. Does you probably gonna hold them know about a quarter of what they normally do in order to have a chance to win this. And the crazy thing is I'll take the listeners behind the curtain for a second. We started talking earlier this afternoon, I came here. I was like Brad. I just having a hard time understanding if LSU was going to win this game. Like what path to they have what possible thing could they do in the one thing that I came up with was one if they're secondary. What if greedy Williams it allots down the receipt, yet Santa receiver in the rest of the Dallas, you second areas the same like is that possible? And then you showed me why probably not right. Look at Christian Fulton on the other corner is pretty good in his own, right? And even if both of them played extremely well. Unless you said they took out two of Alabama's receiver. Just completely locked him down. Alabama has a third receiver and tight end on the field. All the time who are just as prolific. And that's the challenge is that if you're LSU you need at least four guys who can cover it a really high level. I mean, your safeties your linebackers are going to have to get involved. And here's the thing, greedy. Williams is probably not gonna line up on a slot receiver. Alabama's most dangerous receivers. Jerry Judy who about seventy five percent of the time lines up in the slot now. Alabama leads the nation in passing yards to slot receivers. And to himself averages twenty one yards per completion to slot receivers. That's the issue is that if you're if you're LSU you can't take away all of Alabama's weapons and more than likely you're not going to put your best corner on their best receiver and that allows to just be able to pick the mismatches wherever he can. And I'm not saying that Alabama won't punt more than they have in any other game. So far, I. They will LSU will do a better job than any previous opponent of shutting them down slowing them down. Excuse me. That's the problem. You can't shut them down and LSU's offense. I just don't see it being good enough to keep up with what Alabama is likely to do. And look, that's that's what the numbers say. The committee kind of agrees with us on how good Alabama is even though they're not looking at the numbers. We're looking at. But this is why we play the games, right? I can't wait for it. I'm going to be there for that one. I know you'll be watching. I'm jealous. Yeah. It's it's going to be a lot of fun. So looking forward to this weekend. All those games, not just the big one. But especially Alabama at LSU. He south balder. I'm Brad Edwards. Now, let's get back to the rest of the conversation. Hashtag walk on. All right. It's that time for your questions and our answers and to kick us off a toss it to the biggest Syracuse fan in Bristol, Connecticut. The number nine hundred distinct tanked. Yeah. It is there's a lot of them there. The ninth number nineteen in the initial CFP rankings ranked Syracuse orange, Josh macrey Hillel. Josh Hello, Adam. How are you? Although I will kind of take people behind the curtain once again here when I texted you on Sunday morning after you congratulated me on. Syracuse is win over NC state. I said in all seriousness not being a Homer. Syracuse should be ranked now. Right. And you said not above north western. So if if it's pot calling kettle black, then you're a Homer as well. And you have and you have the I walk ons question. It comes to us from John John is at cave city outlaws says it feels like Mark stoops who played for Hayden fry it Iowa is building an Iowa clone program at UK. What are your thoughts on that comparison? I haven't thought about that. But it's a great question. And it's a really good comparison. And obviously Mark and Bob and Mike all played at Iowa for Hayden fry several of them are really good players. And I think there is a parallel there for Kentucky because it's a program that doesn't have the history of many in the SEC. It's a program that has invested in football, like Iowa has it's a program that understands that you can't change coaches every two or three years and expect to gain any traction. And I think that's why the story of their of their team this year. So great because here's a program that did not change its coach. It could have changed its coach it stuck with its coach invested in the program and lo and behold here they have a chance if they beat Georgia who essentially win the which would be something that nobody expected before the season. I I would say there are some differences Iowa does have a little bit more tradition than than Kentucky, which is clearly a basketball for school. I also think the recruiting that Mark stoops has done. Gun. I think puts them at a little bit higher level than what I would doesn't mean Kirk fair, and she always talked to him, and he always downplays. Hey, we're not USC around here. We're not gonna get the best players. But I think stoops has been a little bit more aggressive in that region in the state of Ohio, even though obviously a lot of players, go state, Michigan and those types of schools, but a lot of them are also coming into Kentucky. And he's just done a terrific job. But I I liked that link between Mark stoops in his alma mater, the university of Iowa from atom written Berg, we go to preferred walk on atoms. See biffin's with this question for Jake Adams says conference realignment has ruined some great rivalry games. Like, Texas versus Texas am in Nebraska vs, Colorado. However, it has sparked many new matchups that could someday be close to what the old rivalries were Jake. What's your favorite of the new ups? That's come about. Well, I think after the two rounds of realignment, obviously destroyed a lot of great rivalries. I thought of state Nebraska at a chance to have a little juice to it to things that happened since then one Nebraska Nebraska's been terrible. And number two. They don't play every year. What's the what what is the next time? They play atom Nebraska. They LA played a Saturday. Yeah. But I mean after after the season after the season is what I meant to say. Yeah, I'd have to look at the the big ten schedule. I mean, I I know that there's been a push to try to get that game to happen. More often than say a Nebraska and Rutgers does but it's not every year. It's not as bad as the SEC nothing is as bad as the SEC lack of rotation. But it's it's not an annual deal by any means. Yes. So I don't think realignment has really generated any. Good matchups. Right. I mean, what is the what is the what is the realignment matchup that? I mean, am Alabama's that's what I was gonna say that had some juice for a little while. But it's kinda it's kinda gone away. The way Alabama's dominated in. Johnny Manziel did have nine years of eligibility there. So I think it's destroyed a lot more than it's created. That's for sure. If writers ever gets their act together. Could you see like a Rutgers Penn State thing happening? I think Maryland state has more potential. I mean, the one that I would mention maybe Utah coming into the big the Pac twelve I think that some of their games with USC have gotten interesting and also their game with Stanford. I think it's been an interesting game here and there maybe their game with Washington has become a big game. But but nothing that really rises to the national level of. Oh my God. We got to clear the decks and make sure that we're watching this game that wouldn't have happened if this team hadn't joined this league, right? I think if Nebraska ever got to it again that would be the one. But again, it hurts. The fact they don't play every year. Absolutely. Heather last question for you from another preferred walk on drew Allen at the drew abides wants to talk about your al-matar says Heather is Indiana forever. Condemned to the role of quote could be decent might get an upset when this season, but nothing really much more than that role in the big ten or do you think they'll ever make it over the hump and be a top half of the conference type of team? They can't even make it over the hump to the second half of a game against Ohio State or Michigan state or Penn State or Iowa or Minnesota all the teams that they've lost too. So close against Minnesota against Penn State how they're. But that's nailed it in the question, close close. Right. That that is forever. I use identity. I feel like in college football and until proven otherwise, I think that that's the identity that they will be relegated to I will. When I see it. But you know, what? The best thing about Indiana football is for me. It's that nobody can ever claim. I am a biased reporter in college football. And I love that people. Ask me all the time. Who do you cheer for? Nobody. Really, nobody. I claimed that about written. Berg all the time with north west. I have so critical of them ask anybody around that program. That's the one thing that is really annoying when northwestern as good as all these reporters on Twitter go I mean, it's just can't take it. I'd rather Syracuse. Good. Lahser. Syracuse is better look at the rankings. That's right. Yeah. Well, I listen, I can tell you through my CFP sources that northwestern is right in the next batch of teams on the outside of that twenty five along with Michigan state. So he got really excited. Heather I thought you were going to say the best part of Indiana football was Antwan Randle El highlights. But either way. Oh, yeah. Your. You did overlap with the China, and you how does this? I still think he said the Heisman that year. There you go. Keep the questions coming use hashtag walk on the extra point. All right. It's how we end every show here on campus conversations one last point one last thing to ref on Heather dentists you go first today. What what are you have? Okay. I'm going for two first extra point is specifically for you, Jake. I'll make it very fast. I don't care what your wife dresses up as for Halloween. Did you cannot call her a pig? Thank you. I can't think I have. Seeing dressed as a pig. And I it was her idea. Don't bring me this anti. Do whatever you do. Don't listen to the podcast today saying? So my my second point here is consider this. Let's go back to north western from it Adam northwestern can actually still win that division, which means it can still win. The big ten Virginia is leading the coastal which means it can still win the ACC for everyone who would like to see the playoff expand. Consider this. What if northwestern wins the big ten and Virginia, when's the ACC and they two loss or maybe a three loss Stanford or a or a three last Washington wins the Pac twelve do you really want to see those conference champions in the college football playoff? That's one of the reasons why there are not automated qualifiers, and every conference champion is not guaranteed a spot either on the top four or in the college football playoff system. And I think the picture that's out there right now is a perfect example. And a reminder of why it's important to get the four best teams that. Well said and I think if the playoff does expand and I'm in favor of it going to eight, but I'm going I'm in favor of going with two eight without any automatic qualifiers for just that reason really good from Heather to point that out Jake. What do you have other than your wife's Halloween costume? What you guys are both wrong about your play f- assessment. We should have eight with the five conference champions going on medically because that would make more games matter in college football. Thank you. If you're if you're north western you have a chance to win your conference and go to the playoff, otherwise, you have no chance of your north western ever out of you should be four automatic qualifiers. So anyway, I wrote about today a game. I was at two years ago. It was in Lubbock and his Baker Mayfield said this week where things happened in Lubbock Texas on Saturday nights. Oklahoma beat Texas Tech sixty six to fifty nine and I was there to see numerous FBI records fall until you see the statistic it's hard to fathom what kind of game this. Was Patrick Mahomes. Guys wit fifty to eighty eight. Okay. Four F B S records. Senate iron thirty four yards passing. Baker Mayfield threw seven touchdown passes. And the two teams can bind four. Well, let me put it this way. They each gained eight hundred fifty four yards which were the most combined yardage in it FBI game. The reason I'm bringing this up is not only does Oklahoma go back to Lubbock this weekend. But maker Mayfield at Patrick Mahomes play each other on Sunday as pros for the first time with the the Browns hosting the Kansas City Chiefs. I think at the time people are like may have wears the defense as time has gone on people like man that was a quarterback in classic definitely. So it was Lincoln Riley gonna coach the Sooners on Saturday and the Browns on Sunday. Can you pull out of double duty, Jake or get nervous, but they should be more nervous about the potential of Dallas Cowboys opening that I think the Cleveland? The Oklahoma coaches never leave for the Cowboys. Do they ever have before just one? Yeah. Just one good stuff there from Jake. So my extra point is about a team to Jake asked rob Mullins about earlier on the show, and that's the UCF nights. And obviously, they have not played anybody to date and have not had much of an opportunity to impress the selection committee, but that changes beginning tonight, and they have a game at seven thirty eastern on ESPN against the temple owls, while temples overall record isn't overly impressive. They do have a win in overtime against Cincinnati. The only lost the Bearcats have. They also have a definitive win on the road against Maryland team that's five and three and has a win against Texas. And you look at UCF remaining schedule your navy won't help navy's having a down year. But they also have Cincinnati which only has one loss and then USF at the end of the year that only has one law. So we should have an idea in the month of November of us. If you see f can run the table of a little bit better idea of just how good this team is. And maybe that will be reflected in the CFP. Rankings in the coming weeks. That's it for today's chemists conversation podcast wanted this think rob Mullins for joining us for sure talk nerdy to us the Brad and inset those guys Heather and Jake and Josh and everybody for downloading us. And as always be knows got the last word by Dan. Thank you for listening to campus conversation. You can listen and subscribe to all ESPN podcast in the listen tab of the ESPN app, including the herbstreet and Fitzsimmons podcast available in the ESPN app.

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By Archiving Our Lives Online, Are We At Risk Of Losing More Than Just Data?

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By Archiving Our Lives Online, Are We At Risk Of Losing More Than Just Data?

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Plus, if you haven't already downloaded the shutdown is the second major internet event, and we'll talk about the mice base music purge to those events are refocusing our attention on the fundamental impermanent of the internet. It's more than just photos random musings and memes. Collectively, these are the things that form the record of who we are. And how we're living right now. So what happens when these tangible artifacts of modern life disappear? Can they be recovered and at what cost this hour on point the risk of archiving our lives online, and you can join us. Did you lose any old music in the accidental? My space music purge. Heavy lost important data that was stored online. When a company. Sided to shut it down. What steps should we be taking to archive data and our lives as much more of it moves to the digital realm. Join us anytime it on point radio dot org or Twitter and Facebook at on point radio. Yes. And I do know that those are two digital sources were pointing you too. But that is life. So we'll start today in New York with Brian Feldman, associate editor at New York magazine. He's written about this in his story is headlined the silver lining to my spaces failure. We've got a link to it at on point radio dot org. Ryan feldman. Welcome to the program. Hi, thanks for having me. Great to have you first of all let's just start with Google plus because that shutdown is happening tomorrow for its consumer side. It's consumer service. Just broadly speaking, why did you Google plus decide to pull the plug a so a few months ago, I think maybe in the middle of last year Google announced that it had discovered a security vulnerability in Google plus that allowed someone taking advantage of it to access users personal info. Mation? There's not a whole lot of information about how whether anyone sort of abused that Boehner ability, but Google decided in the wake of that that they would just shutdown Google plus entirely, I see so just deciding that that was a better move than perhaps trying to fix the security breach. Okay. So that's Google's decision here. And to be fair. They gave a Google plus users what almost a year at least ten months to download all the data whatever that data might be from Google. Plus the people have had the opportunity, but Nevertheless, I imagine that not everyone is taking advantage of that. So we're going to talk a little bit about the significance of that. But preceding the Google plus shut down. There was this my space accidental music purge which got a lot of people's attention when it was first discovered. So so take us back what happened with my space. So as my space tells it they were at some points awhile ago. Moving information. From one server to another and in making that move the data got corrupted, and they did not have a backup of it. So all of that just vanished in the move a couple of mazing things. Their first of all my space did not have a backup of data that door. Did do we know why? Or that does not seem like common practice at all. It's not a standard practice. Yeah. I can't explain it in my space has been tight lipped about it. Okay. And second of all they didn't really tell anybody. Right. I mean, this was sort of discovered when people folks on read it, for example, weren't able to stream tracks that they had been before on my space. Yeah. Users had been used it on read. It had been complaining about not being able to access certain space tracks for awhile. And some of them had gotten individual responses from the company about some sort of ill fated data mcgary migration, and it just sort of caught a everyone's attention last month. So I mean, this is very different just to underscore. This is very different than what's what Google is doing with Google. Plus because my space didn't really tell anyone until they were asked it was an accidental purge of data that they didn't have backups for. And we're talking about what more than ten years worth of data from on my space is that right? Yeah. I believe it was about two thousand five to two thousand fifteen I might have Myers a little bit off, but a standard of were a very large chunk mice basis history. Okay. So. And yet you write in your piece, you hear me laugh because it just it is kind of astounding actually that that I'm still trying to get past my space not having a backup. But but you write in your piece that there's a silver lining to to all this make your case. Sure. So the silver lining is that a lot of people have grown less comfortable with their personal data out there on someone else's servers. If you look at the popularity of Instagram stories, or Snapchat or just ephemeral media in general that sort of taken off of the last half decade, people are less inclined to sort of leave breadcrumbs around the internet. And if you look at sort of the reaction to the my space news, a lot of people seemed relieved a lot of people were like, I don't know if I had an account on there. But it's gone now. Great, you know, and maybe they meant. It sort of jokingly, but people have gotten very concerned about how data brokers handle their data, and my space was sort of a big one lying around. Do you agree with that? Yeah. I think I think on an individual level. You know, if people are more at ease than it's great. I think you know, collectively for the historical record. It's obviously a shame. So there in lies the tension that we want to explore Ryan. So hang on here for just a second. Brian feldman. I wanna bring into the conversation. Jason scott. He's joining us from beacon, New York. He's a digital archivist and historian for the internet archive, a nonprofit free to use digital library. Jason scott. Welcome to point. Hello. Hey, thanks for having. It is great to have you the internet archive has an amazing resource. So let me just get your your view here on the the sort of the my space in Google plus stories here is is it a loss that Google plus a shutting down? I do think it's a loss. I do think that it's a harbinger of health. Things have been going for actually about the last ten years in terms of online life. I don't find a silver lining in it. I only in the same way that a, you know, a forest fire is a silver lining because it reminds you install your firearms. You know that is a powerful analogy here. Okay. But so tell me tell me why though because I mean, as as Brian was saying a lot of people over the past or more people over the past several years have been increasingly concerned with what you know. Data brokers are doing with all the information, they put online, so isn't it? Perhaps of of a benefit that something's can be permanently disappeared digitally. See when you when you put it like that. I mean, certainly, I think that as citizens of the internet that the internet of the nineteen nineties, which was an experiment in a fun kind of whoever could get on could do interesting things that is a long ago memory, a shimmering, you know, beautiful old photograph we are in a completely different world. Now. It's very connected. There are a lot of cool features. We have you can shout at your phone. It'll tell you how to get away going. That's wonderful. But we have all of these basically artifacts going over the last twenty five years that are being treated very poorly. And it's it's a sign that there's no plan underway in any of these forward-looking companies of any kind of shut down. They're all going to be ugly. If they keep going this way, no plan. Okay. So I want to talk with you and bright about that more in just a minute. But maybe we should just take a step. Step back here Jason because there might be a lot of folks listening who don't know exactly what the internet archive does. And it's sort of. It's it's motivating purpose. So tell us about what does internet archive do? And why do you do it? Sure of the internet archive is a nonprofit library that a lot of people know as the way back machine, which is that site, we go to web that archive dot org, and you can look at old websites and that exists because our founder Brewster Kahle had a company that would talk about what websites were up in the nineties and to do those analysis. It would download a copy of the website and over the years, it became a very very large collection of downloaded websites. And then in the early two thousands started making it a feature that you could type in a domain name and see all the different ways that site changed over the years. And so people use it for research for history to look back at sites long, gone or two. Find information that's been wiped from the web and be able to reference it so very popular because it's utility. It's the whim, it's the web's memory. It's the web's memory. Okay. But can you crawl everything? I mean, if we're talking about data on social networks or photographs on flicker that kind of thing does does the way back machine is able to preserve all that could potentially be lost. So just to be clear. There's nothing special. We do with any of these websites that we have access that the the outside public doesn't already have. So if your website is, you know, for a radio station, we will be able to see everything that a regular person would see in the case of social media summer walled gardens, very hard to go into and replay and others are more collaborative and allow you to make up your own website. And so if you have sites like that, we can see it if it's a site that's private and it's your private info. We can. Okay. So in that case, maybe. Is there less to worry about if resources like the internet archive liked the way back machine are there to capture and preserve largely public information? That lives in the digital realm. Perhaps we shouldn't be so worried as you were saying that a little earlier that more and more companies have no plan on what to do if they're going to you know, if they're going to shut down their services. I think it's a stopgap. I certainly think that we will do our best from the outside to gather some sort of snapshot of the present of things that are important, but we have always seen cases where there were sites that nobody understood was going to be important until later, you know, everything from historical research all the way through to just the last some the the last social media site of someone before they died on expectedly, you know, all of that sort of information. We a lot of it. We don't know. Right. We just don't know. We're lucky because digital is a little bit easier to grab, but it's only slightly better. Yeah. Well, jason. Scott digital archivist and historian for the internet archive. Hang on here for just a second. And Brian Feldman. Standby to Brian is associate editor at New York magazine, we are talking about the upcoming Google plus shut down the accident on my space music purge flickers done something similar as well. The big question is what happens when we lose so much of our digital lives that live online. What are we losing culturally? What are we losing historically wanna know what you think we'll be right back? This is on point. This message comes from an points sponsor, indeed when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast with indeed post a job in minutes. Set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates. And when you need to hire fast, accelerate your results with sponsored jobs. New users can try for free when you sign up at indeed dot com slash NPR, podcast, terms, conditions, and quality standards apply. Hey, you'll fear Eisenberg here from NPR's ask me another Nita break from the new cycle will then head over to ask me another this month. We've got puzzles games trivia and more women in comedy joining us as read from NBC's parks and recreation grittily, endlessly Hedlund from the Netflix series, Russian doll and many more. Listen this Friday. This is on point a magnet. Chuck Roberti or talking this hour about the risk of archiving our lives online, and we're talking about it because for example, tomorrow Google, plus is shutting down that's the official social network for Google not that long ago. My space admitted to an accidental purge of more than ten years of music that was stored on my space. We've had other examples of how companies either lose or shutdown access to data that you have given to them and stored with them. So what do we lose culturally? What do we lose individually? What are these historically when that happens? Brian Feldman joins us. He's into socio editor at New York magazine is written about this recently in an article, headlined, the silver lining demise basis failure Jason Scott also joins us. He's a digital archivist and historian for the internet archive a not for profit for these digital library or the web's memory as Jason calls it. And we got a lot of comments coming in here. Online creek or says on our website using the cloud for storage and backup is a. Double option. However, you get what you pay for depending on free services to be there for you forever. And hold onto your data for eternity is a bit unrealistic. Let's go to the phones. And let's go to Anthony who's calling from Greenville, North Carolina. Anthony, you're on the air. Great. Thanks for taking my call. No problem. Go ahead. Well, shirt we my wife, and I have two young children. And for years, we've been storing are photos, so you have a computer and recently with a software update, the iphoto that we used it took away the time in Bates stamping. So now, we still have all of our photos. We haven't lost any, but the time and date of when things happened as sort of being able to look back and say remember that day. Remember that time remember the order of things. Now, it's just like a mixed bag of photos, so not a total loss. But certainly it enhanced my wife's fears of storing things digitally, and it certainly made a mess of thing. Yeah. It sounds like it's become the digital version of the old shoebox full of pictures that you just found in the closet were sure when those photos were taken Anthony, thank you so much for your call. Brian Feldman just respond to to what Anthony says that there's all sorts of things not just those. Oh, the preservation or the storage of of these data artifacts of our lives. But the way we organize them and even and even interact with them that we've come to rely on that we don't even think about. Yeah. That is a bit of a problem there so many layers to backing things up, you know, you can stored in the cloud, even if you have a local copy, obviously things can go wrong, which is why it's important to sort of like have a backup of that local copy as well. Usually it's sort of best practice that when you do like a software update for anything even apple products that supposedly just work should maybe backup your hard drive. I and it's very tangled. Well, Jason Scott, let me turn back to you for something that you said a a little bit earlier because fundamentally what we're talking about. Here are individual slash consumers using some free some paid for services provided by a company, right? So there there there are companies on the other end making decisions here. And you said earlier that many of them have no plan on how to deal with data purchase or data losses or what to do. Can you just tell me a little bit more about what you meant. Sure. We have this very nice image of the web that it is a lovely experiment where amazing free things happen. And every time you open up your computer, your phone, a new wonderful toy or experiences there to to make things even better than they were. But we don't ask fundamental questions about it. And there's a holdover from a couple dot com. Booms and busts where the best way to get new customers is to completely offer everything for free pay for it either off of a venture capital money or through advertisements. And then see what happens question, Mark. And that happens a lot. And yet, we are we in the meantime, rapidly moved all of our institutions and our personal lives into these models in. Now, we're starting to see a reckoning, which is that if anything goes wrong. There's really no recourse. There's no. No law. There's no known situation be Frank. I I tend to use the same rules. We have in terms of tendency renters and landlords because if you know, there's it's it's messy, and it's troubling when you can go to where you're renting or there's a dispute, but there are these laws these slow moving real laws that we follow in the same way. Like, if your car is towed your first thought isn't well, my car gone. Okay. You know, you your first thought is home not to spend all this money and go get my car, but if your website disappears. We don't have any agreed upon amount of warning. We don't have any agreed upon way to get your data back. It's always at whatever that company feels their image should be that's because it's all floating. We haven't figured it out yet. And I'm waiting for the day that it's like a tow of like, oh the websites down. I gotta send fifty dollars to the site. They'll give me a CD-rom or USB stick with my data. Oh well. Well, we just don't have that yet. And it's it's really high time that we do. Okay. So interesting. So so I mean, there's obviously the issues on all the issues surrounding sort of an individual and his or her control or access to the data that we're we're putting online here. But I think the what's really kind of most interesting to me about all of this is that we're not just talking about individuals right in the in the digital age. We're talking about the conversations that we're having with other people were talking about the record of interactions that were having amongst each other. We're talking about sort of at a broader level a record of this, cultural and societal moment here. So on that point I want to bring in someone whose entire entire profession is trying to understand cultures and the records, they leave behind joining us from Paulo Alto, California is Heather Heather Richard's resent. Oh, she's an archaeologist specializing in the ancient Maya of. America. She's also an anthropology professor and fellow in the center for digital research in the humanities at the university of Nebraska Lincoln and director of the keeping data alive project, supporting reuse and repurposing three d data in the humanities Heather Richard Rosetta. Welcome to on point. Hi, thanks so much for having me today. Okay. I'm very excited to talk with the first question here. This is a hypothetical. But you you pretend you are an archaeologist or two hundred years in the future. I don't know if that is that an five hundred years in the future, and you are tasked with understanding American culture, circa two thousand nineteen could you do that properly with the sort of the impermanent of of all the data that we're putting out there today? It will it would be a challenge. So it's been mentioned before there really aren't there are some standards and some best practices for preserving data and data formats, so that we can make things interoperable. But you don't even have to look two hundred years out. You know, you could look five years ten years, which is and it it'll be a challenge. Even then too. I think not only we might be preserving these data. Right. But is it enough to put them in say like a dark archive? Right. So that there on that? So as mentioned a USB or CD-rom how does that and what does that individual data? Tell us about cultural interactions at this time period. And while the data itself does provide useful information. So as an archaeologist currently and re more recently, but we study material culture, right? We study tangible things for most of the tradition of discipline. And now, we're shifting. Because we went understand pass cultures. How people interacted what they did with each other. And what that tells us about society and politics and economics, and we now have to as an archaeologist already reinvent and create new methods new ways in approaches and techniques to understand culture because it's so digital. Now. We can't just we won't just have tangible objects, right? Hard drive is not going to be enough. We need the data. But in addition to the data, it's those connections right between the data. It's the context in archaeology and artifact without context is often not very useful. So the same with these data without their cultural context who was making them who's interacting with whom. How do we construct those things and it will be it's difficult now? And so we have to work for not only preserving those data, but preserving the pathways in the connections. Right. Snapshots are great of websites, but they're just not enough. Right. Well, so let me ask you though, I mean in comparison to the material artifacts that you seek and study and try to understand for the Maya for example. I mean, they're they're very limited in number in comparison to the vast amounts of digital artifacts that we're leaving like every second of every day in modern life. So perhaps, aren't we? We're doing a better job at leaving behind a comprehensive even dynamic record of our culture than you know, obviously, the my we can't we can't blame them for not having digital technology. But but it's it's a it's a fundamental perhaps positive difference. In terms of the records were leaving behind today. Yes. As long as we can access them right there there in lies the challenge. You know, there are so many data formats, so many software types proprietary open source. You know, I have an example why I am trying to pull some data off of a floppy five and quarter inch floppy and from the mid nineties, and it's just we have not been able to succeed yet. So those data which are took a lot of field work a lot of time that were recorded in technology, you know, a database technology really a db file are twenty years later inaccessible. Okay. Wait. So first of all a lot of listeners. There's some listeners out there who probably like what is a five and a quarter inch floppy. But. Was actually this. That's you can't even find a drive that will hook up to a computer that will read that disk for you. Well, we we have we have we've tried different versions. But it can't you don't it's not just the drive we need to know, we need to have the software to read it Jason scholar returned back to you on that. What should Heather Richard resented do in this the answer is I can help you. We can talk later, but some beyond that it does show the problem, which is what used to be something everybody did is now the field of specialists and over time it's going to be whoever still doing the business. And it's over even more time going to be something that only a slick group can do that used to be something that was decades now can be years and soon it'll be probably months where if somebody doesn't make an effort to document and understand that what they're doing. Now has to be accessed in two five ten years the stuff. Will be very hard to get to and very likely lost. That's that's a fundamental digital issue and a slightly different than what we're talking about. Which is you know, that everybody is sitting in these huge clouds of a shared social information with really no context to what it's going to be even a short time in the future. Okay. Well, Heather let me just turn back to you for a second. Because we have this. Interesting comment. That's come in online someone from the calling themselves. Karen, Karen, says here's a thought print the most important pictures and put them in a photo box or scrapbook you'll have them forever. Print your important papers store them in a file cabinet. Okay. Point taken Karen. But then she goes on to say there's a lot of junk online, and we don't need to keep everything as an archaeologist. How do you respond to the claim that getting rid of all a lot of our digital junk is actually a good thing? Well, this is a challenging question because we often how we. Who decides what gets saved and what's important, right? It's the same way. Heritage who decides what is a heritage site. Right. And what is not right. And who gets to make those decisions is someone's fair family heirloom might be important to them as an individual, right? But, you know, those photos, those those those pictures, you know, audio recordings for them is critical, and then as an archaeologist sort of we don't just interested in the bigger cultural picture through sometimes the eyes of individuals, but most most do groups and communities, and we don't know what might be important in the future. Right to understand things. So there are many things that aren't preserved in the archaeological record, or when we go we've excavated in the past and collected data that was, you know, early on in the late eighteen hundreds, you know, thrown out data about panicles, and plants all of these things, you know, that we can now analyze a new ways and see in new ways that data's gone. And we didn't know then right or archaeologist didn't know then that they were going to be useful in some way. So it's hard because. Yes, we can't store all the data. And then who's like again who's making that decision. Boy, we're talking about the US. Yeah. So I I would actually like to just push this even further because over the past many years, I've had conversations with with our he'll just I mean, I'm based here in Boston talked with a wonderful, or he'll edgy professor who's done digs on puritan privy toilets, essentially, like what the throughway everything from archaeologist who made their entire careers looking at what went down. You know, Roman toilets in ancient Rome. And they've said to me repeatedly over time literally the things that we throw away the things that we consider junk and forgettable no matter if it's two thousand nineteen or nineteen BC the those actually tells more about. A particular society than the things we decide important choose to keep. Yes. I would I would say that. Yeah. Because we're it's I think about the things that are saved as it cannot be thought of as propaganda, and who who's who is putting those out there who has the capability even today with access to the web. We're only, you know, there are a lot of people while we tend to think we're online and digital. You know, we if you were as archaeologist one hundred years from now, you might find information about the US, but perhaps less so about countries in Latin America, so we're getting a biased perspective say we don't know what the the political borders were anymore for some reason. Right. We would we would see this one picture of the past. And we could only paint that one picture, and that's being biased through quote who has access and who doesn't in a sense it creates alternative perspectives. Yeah. Well, Brian Feldman limited turn back to you here for a second. So do you think that that there's a there's sort of a duty to the future to preserve all those billions of memes out there that might tell us more about who we are. Now. Two two future. Archaeologists. Definitely I think that, you know, people should be more mindful of being able to preserve things I think companies should be able to let users export their data and save elsewhere. And I think that's important. You know, but I think it's also important that people be able to decline to participate in that, you know, I don't. There are millions of memes out there. I think if you know five people decide I don't want my stuff preserved. I don't see the big picture problem with that. But I could be wrong. Well, I'm not sure if there's a right or wrong in this in this question, which is what makes it so interesting in to grapple with now. Well, Brian Feldman associate editor at New York magazine. He's written a story headlined the silver lining to my spaces failure. We have a link to that on point radio dot org. Brian, thank you. So very much for joining us today. Thanks for having and Jason Scott digital archivist in history with the internet archive standby for just a moment, and Heather Richard's resettle standby as well. We are talking in the upcoming regarding the upcoming Google plus shut down and the mice base exit will music purge about these bigger questions about what is lost. When so much digital information that we're putting online just vanishes. We'll be right. Back. This is on point. Jimmy, oh, Yang loved acting in crazy, rich, Asians. Why? I can just be funny and act a fool. Yeah. Because I'm not represent all Asia's. I'm just represent one personality the stories behind the celebrity every Tuesday on it's been a minute from NPR. This is on point. I Meghna chucker bardy. We're talking this hour about what gets lost when we lose our data that we're putting online through services such as Google. Plus who's consumer side is shutting down tomorrow, or there was that my space accidental music purge which happened not that long ago. Here's how it was covered by ABC action. News in Philadelphia. Matt O'Donnell of ABC channel six in Philly. This is what he how he described the mice base data blunder. This may come as a shock to some of you. But the social media site, my space still exists isn't that when the internet was in black and white longtime ago, and it's programmers made a pretty big mistake that put the side back in the headlines, my space laws more than fifty three million songs. Fifty three million songs lost on my space. But again that bigger question is not just the songs the individual songs or photographs or even comments on posts. It's more. What do we lose? Culturally in terms of the historical, cultural and social record of our time. When these things just go away Jason Scott joins us. He's a digital archivist and historian for the internet archive. Heather Richard's resent. Oh is also with us. She's an archaeologist who specializes in the ancient Maya of Central America. She's also an anthropology professor at the university of Nebraska Lincoln, and the director of the keeping data alive project. Let's go to the phone. Let's go to neymar who's calling from Worcester. Massachusetts you're on the air. Thank you for having me. I just want to restate the importance of actually having a backup and not just backing up. Because people don't understand is once they put something on the internet. There's a potential for it to be lost. So it's something important. It needs to be backed up. Not only on one source, but like like you have an external hard drive. That's great for it to be backed up. But you also need to back up. Just in case. There's a local emergency something like a fire that brings down your entire systems. You should always have a live copy. Just in case something like ransomware hits you you'll be able to manage rather than dealing with that after the fact. Yeah. Yeah. Newmar? Thank you so much for for for calling. Jason Scott, this gets us right back to a basic question is how much should we put the responsibility on individuals? I mean in in in this day and age for being, you know, for being more mindful of keeping keeping backups of their own content that they? I believe it's important. Sure. A couple of things I agree that probably the way from most people that they're going to be most affected by data loss or everything else. Is that what I tell people is getting Louis be stick put it into your computer drag. What's in your personal documents folder onto that USB? Stick and store it at a relative's house that will in some way help you the most. But there's a lot more data that's ending up in these cloud services as well. And people are starting to replace your local machine almost entirely with those services, and you're setting up kind of a danger point because you're never looked to see where the exits are you've never looked to see what the possibilities are with your data. And unfortunately, this is about the time to become informed. I I've been doing I've been doing stuff like this for about ten years. And as a result, I have this memory, by the way that that news story drives me insane. Because it's the standard narrative of. Of any community that gets plowed under which is I guess there wasn't anything good there. Or can you remember when that was a thing? Our and I were just just that that that dedication to the new to give you an idea I have worked with a preservation of two communities that are now long gone or cut Google or cut which was one of Google's previous social media attempts. That is now gone in GIO cities. Which is also now gone. And in both cases, there were a lot of new stories instead of decrying that we were losing that part of our history. It was isn't it great that's gone. And I it seems like it's an it's not any conspiracy. It's just a natural thing to say that used to be the way things were isn't it so much better? Now, it's a constant refrain Google or cut take two Heather's point was not very popular in the US. But. It was unbelievably popular in Brazil. Right. So you had the situation where a lot of resilient culture was being handled by US tech company. And then when their priorities shifted know just one degree just moved on column of numbers from five to four it was gone. And you know, that's that's not going to stop happening at we're not. This isn't the last time. This is going to happen. I think is important interesting. Heather Richard's resent. Would you wanna comment on? What Jason just said. Yes. Yeah. I I think as he speaking about it's the we do we tend to I guess as an archaeologist perhaps I'm a bit biased. But you know, I studied the past. We study the past. And so I think often culturally we don't particularly today we sort of move on quickly to the next thing as and we're not stopping one to preserve the data. But. To step back reflect and learn about these things, right? And this is how we're going to be able to do it in the future is we're going to be looking at these digital data right in the networks that were created through those right, for example. Yeah. We information about sort of what's happening in Brazil right for says somewhere else in the world. We we really need to. I think it's a mar a larger shift perhaps to appreciate history and realized that history is like yesterday not only a thousand years ago. Right. Right. Well, on this point, let's go to Mark who's calling from Appleton, Wisconsin, Mark you're on the air. Hi, thanks for taking my call. One of the mantras of Silicon Valley has been no we don't need government regulation that we can do it by yourselves, which leave the government out, and then we can be trusted. And that is so clearly not the case. I mean, my space Facebook leaving passwords expose we want to go on and on of of the breaches of trust. And it really is time to regulate this. So that so that things are are much better. Or somehow that there's at least I'm ramifications for just losing something and saying oh sorry. I lost it and then walking away without any kind of economic penalty or anything. So that forcing them that maybe that they need to be more responsible and one final point one of the greatest technologies invented was the book, and they don't go out of date, and you can still use and they're wonderful. And you don't have to worry about your floppy disks Martin. I totally take your point about books, but they can also degrade over time. They don't like a lot of direct sunlight and lots of handling when they get really old. But. But but I completely take you point, Mark. Thank you for your call. Jason scott. Do you think regulation for these Silicon Valley or these tech companies is the way to go to introduce some kind of requirement for data stewardship? Let's call it that is that even realistic one thousand percent, I think that you've got an amazing situation right now where somebody a, you know, a industry of this power of this influence has no real oversight to a whole bunch of the range of their services their their use of credit cards. A so many more times regulated than their ability to do the right thing. After after you deal with them. I we were seeing kind of an offensive on that note. Mark Zuckerberg just posted some crazy op Ed where he said, oh, yeah. Come in. And regulate us that feels that feels like somebody again, I have no insider information, but it feels like somebody who's people is told him. It's come. Ming make it look like we wanted it. Well, getting out ahead of the inevitable perhaps. Yes. Right. Of course, come on in we need this. This would be great. Please regulate us. Please charge us. It feels like they've finally realized after so many breaches so many betrayals of trust and so much open demonstrations of what advertising data can be used for that. They said, okay, we'd better. We'd better act. Like, we're ready for improvement. Totally for it would love to see it, frankly. Well, Heather Richard's resent. Oh, let me talk. Let me ask you questions through the lens of your role as the director of the keeping data alive project. Here isn't there? This is something that institutions are institutions have been grappling with for some time. I mean, the library of congress for a while was was capturing every tweet to put out there. And I think they sort of narrowed their scope recently about Twitter collection. But is this a place where? You know, the world's major libraries or kaysville institutions can step step up more need to step up more. Yes. Exactly. I mean, they are libraries are are stewards of data right of the books of maps. And now the digital data and within the digital humanities, which I do part of as well, libraries are taking a key role. And they're working with researchers and others to be able to understand and figure out potential not only just data types to serve these preservation needs. But also the x ax being able to access these data. So the libraries are becoming even they're the stewards currently for our sort of written work, and as well for the digital data, and they're actually doing quite a bit with three D data and other terms of data as well, including the library of congress, and it's really important in their in libraries as institutions. Realize that it's not just about storing that because what would it be in a vault that you never never saw. It would be great I suppose in two hundred years to have that. But what about now what about the course of those two hundred years, right? We need to be able to assess these data and excess them in a way that we can use them to understand sort of past passed. I say pass, but you know, a year ago processes cultural processes, well, let's go back to the phones. Let's go to Tim who's calling from Richmond Virginia. Tim, you're on the air. Hi, I'm oh. A working photo journalist, and I have transitioned from the film world into digital and into television. And as I was starting to make that transition from film to digital. I saw this nightmare coming and I am so glad to hear this discussion going on because I've been talking about it, and nobody seems to pay any attention to it. And you know, I can take a hundred year old negative in still make a beautiful print. But yet there are so many, particularly in the television. You know, used to be a time when TV stations while shot them, and they kept thousands of hours of film and video available, and they could still access all that film to for say documentary purposes, or or whatever, but the problem stay have now, they don't even have the footage anymore. And if they do have the footage, it's likely to be of in a format that nobody can read. Yeah. It's about the end, Tim, I'm going to take it back from either. And thank you so much for your call. Heather Richard's resent owed, Tim, they're leading us back to this format question. I'm still struck by your struggles with that five and. A quarter floppy. But, but you know, Tim is getting us to a point where we've explored a little bit. But I want to hear more from you that this fundamental material transition to from from things that you can hold up to the light like you saying one hundred year old negative versus ones and zeros. Is it are we over romanticizing first of all the material artifacts that we used to rely on because that same hundred-year-old negative could also degrade over time. Yes. However. Yeah. Material objects, depending on what they are. Right. Have tend to have a longer shelf ri- life than most. It'll data does today. Right. And so we're we need to be able to. Figure out ways. And as as Tim was saying, right? There's lots of different file formats, right and those some interchange with another system, some don't so perhaps you have a library storing all of these data, but you can't pull them back out to look at them. You know, for example, aversion his changed of software and that throws everything off. So you may have preserved those pieces of data your three d models your images your database, but they're all separate in a sense right there, just it's the underlying data. And it's the combination of those that we use as archaeologists together, right? Would be the material in the digital. We construct pass narratives and stories to understand. It's the isolated object is not in and of itself, overly useful in terms of understanding bigger cultural questions. Yeah. So I keep I'm sorry. If I keep repeating this question, but maybe it's because my my own lack of experience here. I'm just trying to understand how that is fundamentally different with what you have to do when you're. Trying to piece together Meyer culture and civilization. Because except perhaps in the rare spectacular dig where there's a lot of their many objects together that provide context, isn't it? Don't you face the same challenge in the work? You do already today. Yes, exactly it really isn't in terms of overall approach and strategy. It really isn't any different than looking at material objects and himselves because we are trying to piece together we have pieces of the puzzle. But we don't have the whole picture, and we're trying to understand as much of that pictures, we can from various data sets that we bring together sums from excavation others might be from survey data as we walk across trying to understand, you know, how cities are relating to each other within the Maya landscapes. So yeah, it's I it is I think that the digital for us in and may maybe for many is providing new methods and new approaches so to turn it back to sort of the opportunities while there are a lot of challenges. We're dressing questions today in ways that we've never been able to before and that we couldn't without some of these digital tools. So that's a very fundamental important part is well, but if we want someone to be able to retrace what we did say, a scientist or scholar we have. To save all of those pieces. So that they can go back and sort of test. What we've done in innocence. Right. So that's so interesting may be facing a future even present where instead of the challenge of putting together pieces of the puzzle. We have pieces missing, right? When we can't access them them at all down the line. Jason scott. We've got thirty seconds left to go here. I mean, well, what should individuals do if if you wanna be a good steward of the of your data of your information? Is it enough to back it up onto a hard drive or should you be weaving to CD? I mean, like what I feel like everything everything has a certain level of impermanent that feels risky these days. Everything digital has some levels in permanence who would surprise people to know that this digital site archive dot org. We have four million books in warehouses that we have scanned. We don't throw away the things we make digital. We believe access drives preservation that. If people see things online, they'll they'll they'll wanna make those things preserved and go after it. But I say if people please, please if you took a photo that matters to grunted out put it in a couple. Places. It's your it's unfortunately on you. Well, Jason Scott digital archivist and historian for the internet archive not for profit free to use digital library. Thank you so much for joining us. Jason. Thank you. And Heather Richard's resent. Oh and archaeologist specializing in the ancient Maya of Central America and an anthropology professor and fellow at the center for digital research in the humanities at the university of Nebraska Lincoln. Heather Richard's Rosetto has been a great pleasure to have you on. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. I'm magnet talker. Marty this is on points.

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Upgrading Your Emotional IQ | The Master's Lab | Dave Werth & Peter Hernandez

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Upgrading Your Emotional IQ | The Master's Lab | Dave Werth & Peter Hernandez

"Well dave what are we got today. What's the massacres lab. What are we gonna master on. We're gonna master upgrading your emotional iq. So we didn't get a whole bunch of a chance to connect on this. Peter i sent you some notes late this morning. So i'm not sure if he got my text messages but We're gonna have a plan what we're doing a know we're talking about so jack's idea. Yeah so it's all good. You're playing guitar back there. That's what's going on. I see what's se what's up. Check that out like a guitar is back. That was so cool job very cool like that. Everybody carry out while you. I wanna talk a little bit this morning about thinking about your emotional iq. So like when. I say emotional. Iq what does that. What does that mean for you here. I think it's It's it's i define it. I would define it as emotional maturity a mature responses to situations. I would describe it as being intellectual about your emotions in sense that that you pay attention to them and you practice controlling them. I guess it'd be a good work. And even maybe using them to win negotiations or have great relationships for people and things like that. I guess it opportunity for personal growth. Probably one of the big opportunities. I think it's more important than intellectual. Iq emotional way more important And i think that you know people that we could probably on our hand. Maybe count less than a handful of people that we know. That really have high emotional. Iq my that was my question to kinda group rate now is who do you know while you don't have to put names but do you know somebody that when you're around them the kind of feel like elevated in how they deal with situations they don't they're not they don't get hot headed the kind of just a lot of times they seem even keel in the sense of how they deal with problems and at the same time. They're very positive in bright and kind of glow so Peter lowy michael hernandez to i know who. Who do you know. I was going to say you. Just because we can talk about some really a crazy stuff and you kinda keep it like up here. We don't we. Don't go below the belt kinda thing with you Brad's that way feldman. He's that way. I know quite a few people. Yeah my wife's that way. I was incredible. She i mean her ability to just like keep it out now. It's not fund argue with. Let me tell you that because you know if you get wound up that person on the other side with that high. Iq can can get you so. It's never fun to get into disagreement with somebody with a really high level emotional iq person. I'm looking at somebody right now. Heather heather roy is huge emotional. Iq it can. She can laugh at anything. And i think that's a really great example of of wonderful emotional responses situations alec. You saw crystal museum. Yeah he didn't there. You go good any other examples. I'm trying to think well should really good excited racist excited excited in florida. Kotler hi sean. Thank you definitely. Yeah so why. Do you think i'm bringing this up. I'm curious from the groups. Like why would. I bring this up as our topic this morning. Feel free to throw it in the chat. Feel free to yourself. Join in says the needs it. Shauna has good empty. Says that emotional. Iq is what elevates us and to understand others. i think elevates us. that's a good point. I think being able to identify the emotions in a situation. You're then more effectively able to separate what the actual issue is from what the feelings about the issue are like to add in when you can identify with someone else's emotions level in connect with where they are It can really help to come to an understanding where otherwise it may not be an understanding report. Great point i love of would else i would say dave and peter that the only thing we can control in life is how we respond react to situations. We have zero control. How someone else responded they act so if we can control ourselves than me can help control the pace of the conversation your situation so the so all of this stuff is spot on everything guys are putting in the chaz fahd on I'm observing in. I don't know about you. Peter but i've noticed there's a connection between people's emotional. Iq and their production. Right now big. Time and i saw things in here i think. Miguel put in. You know people are emotional right now. It can hold the difference. Upholding the deal together or not. There's a lack of empathy in the market. It's very competitive And what. I'm finding what i'm seeing. We're gonna talk about some of the things. I've noticed in the market in as a kind of thing to be aware of of how this is showing up as it shows up in different ways. It isn't all just like ingram. There's a lot of different ways emotional. Iq shows up. What i'm noticing in the market is that the folks that are able to elevate their emotional. Iq are able to make better decisions. Be more creative Make better decisions around their money. Do a better job for the client. I mean there's so many benefits to it yet. I don't necessarily know if it's something we intentionally go into practicing day annandale. Some some do some. Don't and i want to bring awareness that. Because i think as much as you can practice your skills like role plays in. You can work on your marketing and you can work on all these things. There's a big opportunity in leveling up your emotional iq to how you approach your business in how you approach the market. So i want to go through and talk about this and make this collaborative effort One first things. I jotted down where i've seen it with agents Coaching clients things. Like that is folks that are on the high highs and lows lows so who knows somebody. Let's agent will keep names out of the picture right now. Who knows an agent that rolls in one day. They're top of the world. Everything's going great new clients. New listing and then than flow lows world is falling apart. The market's terrible. And it's this. I don't want to say rollercoaster but it is a little. It's more peaks and valleys. Who knows one of those. See a few heads. Not what's that like to be around the high high low low kelly that so last year. What's it like. What's it like to be around a high in lolo. The answer is exhausting. Right if you have somebody that comes in and one day. They're just like amt like going to number one and then the next day they're considering leaving the business i mean there. I've seen news those kind of extremes of highs and lows and you're right scary distracting draining so something to think about is. Are you that way to some degree you get really excited and fired up and then when things don't go well you go real low and dr i that that really changed my business. My life was like that so it had to be a balanced for about. So could you one hundred percent into the client. But it's also as you said. Control the emotions. Because then you're tackling each client with a new life instead of kind of bring it into your your next task and then there's times during you know. We have life thrown at us now. Marriages and timing and lots going on. So i've been able to know when i need to step away and go work on another project and then go in one hundred percent with my clients and also control of your client if i keep my emotions good. Tell them no surprises. And don't panic until i do. I said the pace with my client so we kind of all help each other. Yeah and you're you're great. Example of kellyanne We were a little bit of a pendulum. And i'm glad that you can see that 'cause you're very much not that way now. Well you know the method to the answer to the what is it if you want to change you have to do things differently. So i was at a time of my life it. That was pretty much the ticket sale. Yeah kelly put in something really interesting. Peter embarrassing yes true. I mean i'm so serious about this. You guys can see. I have it on my ever notes. Buffalo thing emotional iq. That i wrote out. And i've got about ten questions. I asked myself when i'm upset about something or reacting emotionally about some questions that i asked myself in his kind of how i process it and then come to the other side how i would like to be your however like that. I think embarrassing. 's interesting one because i've seen where you know folks are on high high. They're telling everyone all their friends. Their family how great things are and then they go low low and they drag him into conversation about how bad things are. There comes a point. People don't take you seriously anymore. And i think that that's a risk of being high high low low because people don't know where you're ever have they don't know what they're gonna get. What what side of your emotion. you're going to get. Get really careful with them. So if you are high in a low low let's go like mid high mid low and kinda not step back a little and see how that works the other one out or questions dave. I don't know if you wanted all we've got out without a thought. That was a cool high five. I'm sorry margot you have a question. I just wanted to chime in yet. Thank you peter. I just want to chime in that using my emotions with dealing with An the deal. That i was recently involved in the fire was totally all over the place. Not believing that the seller would actually sign because his seller those drama every day so i kind of leveled it and kept telling her. Don't worry it's going to happen. She had no. She didn't think she was gonna actually get the contract. And i say don't worry so. I kind of level the emotions. I gave her the hope and as an agent. That's what we have to do is just transmit are positively our energy in a matter what we're feeling. Make the client feel that it's gonna be okay. It's gonna be okay leveling their emotional quotient and there and did. And and. When i do that and i just transmit positively the energy vibe send thank god it really worked out you can set the tone with your emotional iq. And it will lead into the entire transaction. Absolutely tricia the add. Something i'm going gonna say it's a high five so the next one and a half. My mind was the idea of seeking out stress as a way to motivate yourself into action. Who knows that person who knows the person or maybe it's you that has to have stress in the equation for them to perform or have you thought about that. What do you think about that. One ear shoot was asked me the question again. I got distracted. Bulge stresses away seeking stress as a way to motivate yourself into action like. They have to be under fire in south side. so funny. I was talking ice. This is so perfectly perfectly prepared for that question. Because i was working with an agent yesterday. That has yourself so stressed out in her belief system. She has belief systems around at like five. Not stressed good. Things aren't going to happen. If i'm not worrying all the time things are gonna fall through the cracks and five not anxious in on the edge of my seat and worried. That shoes gonna drop. Life isn't going to be good. And those those are man. Wear yourself out with those belief systems and that think about that. You know we're going to go the energetic route think about the frequency in the level. You're vibrating at like. You know what it's like to be around that it's not an attractive quality and it's also a really really tough way to operate if you have to have pressure applied know that's like one of those things you see at real estate conferences them thing and this whole no pressure. No diamonds thing. I disagree. That's i do my best thinking. When i'm chilling when i'm able to like really opened myself out to you know like my best. My best thinking and best creativity happens in the hot tub at night. When i kind of sit there and i'm like take it down and i kinda just open myself up to new ideas or thinking allow my mind to like open up as for all. The good stuff happens if i'm tight. End vibrating at crazy high frequency. And i'm like needing the stress and anxiety to feed my motivation. Guess what happens over the long haul. Peter remote for no. I i like to be. I push our trust me but that that's different like really hard. But then i let go. Yeah but the. I'm not saying not be driven chasing axion. Admit let go. that's what i'm saying. Don't use don't put yourself in distress to get yourself gone. And i think that's a really easy one to do in this business. Taking on stressful clients getting like married to really stressful deals riding highs and lows in the finances like i know a lot of agents that will make a check. Spend the check. Then they're broke than they're back in action than they ramp the business. Back up service it mak- check boom down. So it's kinda highs and lows again but really what's happening. There is saying zion stress as a way to get into action. So i have the saying. It's two meanings worrying isn't working so it's not working and it's not working for giving me so i think it's a really good a good thing to think about. Because it's it's it's a waste of time totally but there's a lot of people like procrastination. That's really kind of the definition of procrastination as you. Wait till so stressful than you have to do it. And it's under duress the entire time so you know it is procrastination nation but there are people that will seek the drama drowning -iety to get the motivation out of it. It's almost like it's almost like they're drug. It's like until that things president they can't they can't get gone so worrying is not working. I like that. What about coping techniques of using bad food bad things for your body no exercise. Do you do that too emotional. Iq 'cause i do. I think we all do. I mean every once in a while. You gotta eat a cupcake talk about that. Sometimes sometimes food can be in a wonderful emotional. Iq builder like to see something. Really fatty and fried. And you're feeling so good from knitting second then you hate yourself but but it's lead. It's true it's true. I i wish was stabbed celebrating his birthday Like a piece and a half velva kate. I was like so happy in the moment in all of a sudden. But i get that. Because i was telling. Get those ages feelings and you want to you. Want to eat a big piece of cake. But ashley all dave. I mean it's like it makes the problem worse his now. You hate yourself for doing it. And you're so stressed and your glucose just shot up to three. You know like this so now. It's like not only mentally induced. It's physically adduced not just a mouse right now. You're kicking rocks start tomorrow. I'll start. Well i just think about it. Yes totally also start. I just thinking about it from the standpoint of people that go home and wind down right so they have bad food or drink or they whatever they do take drives as a wind down. And if you think about it it takes emotional maturity. Iq to sit there and go if i go home and eat a bunch of really fatty terrible food. I'm not gonna feel better. It's not gonna put me in a more or less stressful space. It's going to create stress because of all things you said. You're gonna feel guilty than it's gonna be you know. Maybe you don't feel good physically. Then you're not gonna work out morning and it's like this slippery slippery slope and so people don't tie it to like an emotional iq but it's like yeah really is it's having the maturity go. Hey i'm super stressed and going home in crushing light. Five beers and a pizza is not going to be a stress reliever. What would be is eating healthy meal doing some meditation. Maybe some yoga read a motivating book. I'm not saying i'm perfect by any means. I'm just saying that when i think about the real high level. Iq that it's that can take you to the next level. That's part of it. That's the physical. That's the light. How you feel here is how you're going to be out there. Let me ask you a question dave. We covered the subject. But in we're getting near the end. And i think this is when people push your buttons your wife a client friend when you're buttons get. How do you stop reacting. The same way. Every time i use laughter. I'm with heather. I'd like i think a lot of situations are finding people be laughing only because it's funny. It's not that big of a deal but that's for me. That's my emotional. Iq is like. I'm not really laughing. It's more of a nervous thing for me. It's more of a like find the humor. Find the lightness in it. Because i can find the light part of like the situation. It allows me to open up my thinking but how did not react the same way every time. I don't know if i have that answer. That's a tough one. Well when you think about us. I like let's think about. Let's just take a real personal like when you're with house for example you love your yourself. I know you have a wonderful marriage. And i'm sure there are certain things she does. That makes you react to certain way. I've heard for sure it challenges you. Maybe she challenges you from time to time. Maybe she looks at you funny for not listening to her or maybe she likes. Does something like this and this is my experience on zooming. Other people may have a similar experience. You know like if. I don't say a word. One hundred percent correctly. My wife will look at me like i'm the stupidest guy on the planet or if i if i didn't hear something. She said she looks at me. Like are you kidding. You know what i mean or whatever it is right and then i react like and then i want to get angry because i know she loves me to death. Yeah me have question. How do you deal with it when you know. They're not being mean you're just it's your own. Insecurity is your own realization. That she's right probably. Yeah okay i got now got it so we learn this a long time ago in couples therapy like ten years ago right when we were first married and And what i realized. Is that although i don't proclaim to be a person that needs to process a lot i usually make pretty quick decisions when it comes to my wife or or things that are really close half the process and we've actually got like were not agreeing on something or she's bringing something the table. Might i default would be to to get defensive and start dealing with it and i've had learn to appreciate that to go. Hey not ready to have this conversation. I need to process. And so that pause that ability to come back to the situation or even if it's like a couple minutes is huge because it allows me to kind of reset and re position where i am in the conversation. Where like how what's really going on. Because a lot of time she's right. I hate to say that but it's true she's quite often right and and if i'm too i call it like the anxiety helmet where it's like. You can kind of see the your nose. You're in this helmet of just you know meaning me me me me me you get. Take that helmet offers. Second go cave like it could be me but the we need to look at all the parts of the situation and really dissect it and so for me. That's that's the way we've approached at least personally and i try to do that too. When a situation comes up either start asking a lot of questions and kind of picking it apart and not like the defense away like an understanding way or i have to go away from it for a second and comeback and that's true with like clients you've ever had he client the best thing you can do is say you know what i need to come back to this. Find a way to get yourself some space to actually you know. Come back to the conversation. So what's really funny about this. And the reason. I bring it up as it is of like the commission question will you take. Will you do it for five percent because these buttons get pushed are the same buttons that are pushed all the time. It's like i think it's a dance. It's a it's a. It's your spouse friend. Client whatever your is going to be doing the same if you've been in a relationship for longer than let's say i don't know thirty days. Sixty days these patterns keep repeating. And then what i think is the emotional. Iq is that person may continue to do this for the rest of their life. But how do i respond to a differently. That is the question. I'm trying to figure out. Like how do i become the person i wanna be. Not react to these these button pushes. And that's that's the challenge. Because dave i guaranteed the things that your spouse or clients are friends do are the same things over and over and over again that you're reacting the same way over and over again to and that's often stagnation. In my opinion yeah and there are often a reflection of how you're showing out so it's like looking at. That's how are you showing up in a situation. Are you the same every time. Is that why. You're getting the same feedback. That's a great point because geoffrey would teach us stanton. I know you're on the call but we're responsible for the other person's communication to aren't way he says We have to take ownership of how people react to us or what they say to us the point. I didn't even think of that. Caesar couple more golic three minutes. I'm trying try to find the best one out of all of these. So i'll share with the all. We can have a brief conversation so my next one was starting the day on default fall. Lot of people are hopping straight from out of bed into work. And there's no like lead up to that to train your emotional iq. Let's hit the floor. Hit the shower. Maybe grab a bite to eat. And then you're into work and it's like that's not a great way to level up. Because i think there's a lot of training that needs to go into practicing. I read on someone on the chat here. somebody said. Hey it's really hard but it's also intentional effort of saying hey i'm gonna level this upstate. I always write down each day. I write down my goals. I write down my gratitude. And then i have a section called approach and what approach is is i come up with one like one word themes for myself for the day so wish i'm making closer to me but you know i've like okay. Hamad approach day. So i'm going to be creative today. I'm going to be kind today. I'm going to be direct today in confident. I'm going to be whatever it is like for me. That's a really important part of identifying. How am i going to be today. I never show up in a bad mood. I refuse that is unacceptable to me. So part of that is getting clear on it in the morning. One of the other ones i had was An aggressive approach towards others as like a bad badge of honor. I know a few agents like this where they think by being a jerk and like being misled quote unquote bad ass. The end just like you know kicking ass taking names kind of person that that translates to like a badge of honor that's low level. Iq empathy kindness and getting stuff done. That's high level stuff. I think ernie cars balls are really good example of that. I don't know earning that while. But that's one thing. I've heard a lot of haven't been around him the limited time that i have In the my last one was overworking in not approaching things as ceo meaning. There's a lot of folks that are addicted to work to always working working late night grinding. Whatever you wanna call it the never detaching to me that's not i don't know about you peter. I don't know if that is very high level because high level emotional. Iq is wanting to run the business as a ceo to carve time out for yourself Hard time out for your passion. So that you know your doing the business to fund your life rather than running your life to fund the business so that was my last one. I know we didn't get a chance to talk through all of them. But just little things for you all to think about even if you can take one of those today and implement like that's that's the starting point and just pay attention in practice it day in and day out. It's i you'll see big shifts. I guarantee it whatever one resonated with you. What do you think they're completely agree. I think i think emotional. Iq a so misunderstood or not given the importance of needs and should receive. And i totally believe that we can all change and even by the end of the day. Be more evolved human being so to me. I'm really glad you brought this topic up. It's it's you know it's high on my list. I think about this a lot. I mean to the point of where. I have fourteen questions. I asked myself when i get a situation. That's uncomfortable Word for the day. What's your approach. Today i got mine. What your word for the day when what is what do you mean the saying that. Like part of my morning routine. Is i have a section called approach and i write down a couple words not like sentences but like a couple of words of like how i want to approach my day how i wanna be received how i wanted a project so i gave examples of Kindness creativity fun. Confident centric yeah third Roy say say again mission mission centric mission. Centric good camp. So what's your word. Peter you got on how you going to be today. I got a call with you and fifteen minutes. I'll tested out kind of a bunch of words. I'm not sure. I have to think about it. I'm not ready to answer that question. All right fine right well. mine is kindness. That's like on my right. i got one love. Yeah that's on mine. Every day is kindness. Try to be a little more kind. Each days the easiest thing to do so aright. Everyone have a fantastic. Thanks for jumping on. Congratulations on being the twenty percent. We all know what they twenty role. You guys are the twenty so good job already. Likes week great.

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Episode 83: Crab People

Jeather's Random Stuff

57:42 min | 1 year ago

Episode 83: Crab People

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I don't think it's bad. I think for me it smooth but if it was the first bottle I'm not one hundred percent I'm going to say at Smith now Erin does. Does it say where it was bottled at the two thousand eighteen. Where'd affect I get that? California a big states. I'm not fucking sure it last year. I know I know I did not bring that bottle back from California because we drank the to. I'm back so I don't know I'm looking at the back of this. Nothing sticking out to me just says California's finest grape growers okay. It's California finest grapegrower decent. Now I'm on the third bottle though. Aaron we think air. It's going to have a better idea than us. It's not bad okay. I thought it was fairly smooth smooth. It's definitely different than the mel back that we just way way different than the mall back but I mean I'm not as knowledgeable about the wine as you ladies but it's definitely a different not just drink it. I mean I could have bought it for two bucks. It tastes much different than yes. I mean for our third bottle. That could be a two dollar bottle of wine. I think we're doing good if it's two dollars it's damn a five star wide. Yes I don't know well doesn't husband by you wines while but you know I get wine as a gift sometime and it could have been from a gift from some like Christmas out. I've just staring at Kobe's hair right now. 'cause all like fro-ing overtop our top her little head. It's so cute. I got my little for your little style athletic. I tried today. You got a little. Is that both pink. No it's ten. It looks pink not look at it. It's it's Kinda Kinda okay I could I could each. It's Tan okay. It's peach okay but it's more town. That was my effort. I got compliment. The entire point knows that is not pink. My whole F-. The Hawaii is not that it's pink or peach or whatever fucking colored is put effort at you did. There is a scrunchy in my hair today at the top. I noticed it right away shadow. I noticed your sparkling eye shadows. Wow Aaron do you know why because mine ran out and I had the thrown away because I can scrape it anymore? I can scrape it so I only noticed because when she was talking today at work her eyelashes were just like flailing. I was like. Oh some lashes today I was like. Oh and I was like damn. She's looking fly at work at work today. The only was the eyeliner things I say right. Yeah highlighting you don't need it you're just there naturally gorgeous you are. Your eyelashes are insanely long. I'm just waiting. I pull it crap when I put Mascara on their their no Mascaro on. He can't see him. Yeah because they're like read right off. Well thanks for listening. Well Yeah Hi. Hey I'm Jacoby and I guess I'm heather and together we make A. You are listening. Jeff the drunk edition so Olga. This is the special edition. Every dish is the drunk edition. I'm hoping all you people were talking to. You are fully open from the COVID. Nineteen I hope so we are not you are if you're not in Washington fucking state. Washington sucks yeah. If you're in California you're locked down until July southern so yes sorry. Oh Damn. That's Disneyland. Is Disney world is opening mid July? I saw no there June. Are They Nice Saad June? I saw July yesterday June today. June is better. Yeah so we go to Florida with Cami and when she goes back yes little. Afro Little Hair. There may offer here. It's just coming over your little headsets epoch. You know and I haven't washed it for three days. Hello working from home here. People take a picture she can see. Everyone could see what she looks like. Yeah all right. We do have a cool topic today. But we're going to renew ice breaker already. Marandoo icebreaker I my God I love ice maze writings. Something people haven't done while we haven't done it for a long time other. I don't even know if I have that list anymore. Good stuff on that lead did good. We did right. So our ice breaker question of the week is it's three. Am at I hop over. What do you order eggs? I would say definitely like Huckleberry pancakes or blueberry pancake robberies youtube or kindred spirits and paying Kay is in her stomach just cringe when I said I don't like eggs and less. They're deviled eggs so for me. I can pick my breakfast in. Everyone's going to bring it to me every day. It would be oatmeal with a bunch of toppings in it eggs. Hash browns piece of toast with a huge amount of peanut butter on it. I'm talking about eating one meal a day right now. I'll eat at my breakfast time unless what I do when I go to watch. Yeah we eat one meal huge breakfast massive plate of eggs and then all the other stuff. You don't eat like super early like tell me you eat it more of a brunch like that time of day. Will we use Eddo? Because then you're going to be starving the end of the day and then we go and like right when they open the breakfast because their breakfast buffets really good so we'd go like right when they open at seven yes and then they ended it so we'd go back at right before eleven. Yes we twice and so we get like a breakfast and then we get like a lunch now was harder to do with the last time we were there because they know us to well now kind of like not celebrities but troublemaker to the point where they know everywhere how. Ya and like as soon as we walk into like okay. Keep an eye on the others so they actually alert benign alert. The hotel manager show that we are there and maybe a good thing or a bad thing. Now I think it's good because they just pitchers with us. Yeah the picture to to me. And she'll put it up or you send me and I'll make sure I put it up. Sorry owning it. Sorry about that is so cute. You'll post that right. I'll post it. I'll make to me and all post post it. Okay okay so I would get pancakes and you know that I love biscuits and gravy this gravy. Love it now biscuits great make you guys and biscuits and gravy. So you know what I have seen a picture of doors gravy but never gotten to eat it. No you need to make gravy. Not Heather friendly non heather friendly. Even heather friendly was fantastic. Yeah I'm assuming it's going to. He told me it was one hundred times better. Non Heather friendly okay so I do have to say in Shallan. The restaurant we went to the Apple Cup the Yep Yep they have. What's called a Bob over so good and you can get your full Bob but what it is is. It's pretty much just like a huge biscuit homemade biscuit homemade sausage gravy smothered on top of it. I think it's like everything on top of it like eggs. Hash browns is so good. Cheese is you can just say without eggs or whatever. Yeah but they put everything on. It's just like this giant Massimo. We've seen do. They serve rep assaulted. I think my husband loves all day. Everything so bob. And he's a big eater when he eats you know what I think. We should all do what we should do a day where we go up there. Go the Schilling Golf Course yes and do a full fucking to and then land food. We have breakfast at the Apple Cup. Do Golf wine tasting. And then go to the Lakeview and get a bucket of fries. Yes because you gotTa have the fries that I was up there Monday from Oriel Day went to the cemetery to leave flowers and stuff with Megan. It was so sweet of you guys. And it was nice and Before we left how into the Lakeview and I got their most famous thing they have their as called the Bacon Burger basket. Yes and I've never had it. You Eight Burger. I Make Burger basket so it comes with fries and stuff. Kobe Burger but just one of the best. It's supposed to be like the Burger with fries thing and then making a chicken strips because she always strips and then we got an extra bucket full. Fry's house you gotta get the bucket. The bucket that's all. I've never had this the bucket. I've never had the Bacon Burger basket the iconic meal. There and I gotTa tell you it was fucking delicious better than the pipe. S. Mike's Meat Burger it. Tell me how that compares. It was pretty good so it was. It was Super Greasy. I was very hungry so it was a double meat but with the fries. 'cause her fries are so good so good so when we go. We're planning on getting a buck if there's a bunch of us we'll get two buckets of fries. Yeah and planning that. Eighty them and watching the fireworks. I guys come well. I hope so too. My friend Ron just reached out was like what are you guys doing for July Fourth? And I'm like I have no idea so bring your loan. We'll see I've run out new Rana's her best friend. Yeah Yeah Yeah. She's from Spokane. Yeah she's better twice now my really enjoy her. That'd be a super fun. Yeah she's a little. She's a little blunt are she likes to party. And WHO and what's coming up in June. I do know it's coming up in June. It's a milestone. It's a milestone offer. Sure it's got to be celebrated. I don't know how celebrate. It's going to be but we're GONNA CELEBRATE AND SPIRIT FOR SURE. It's going to be heathers twenty first birthday. Jack and we're so excited because now she's finally legal drink yet hide it anymore. God No yeah. I'm actually okay with the forty though. Yeah well you don't look your age at all and we're kind of waiting to see what the fate what phase in is that. What we're we are like. What three weeks? Three weeks and five days away. We're not even four weeks away from my birthday is. We'RE NOT GETTING THE FAMOUS. Idaho just went to phase three. I thought I heard from governor True so but you know we are. Our County is suing the governor. So maybe hoping I didn't know I didn't hear about it either until today I. I stopped the news after the Hornet thing. Okay we'll get to that so I'm like again. Just wait on on. Do not recording. Well it's the little circle of death that's Mystery doing this. We're not sure if it's recorded last night. I think it is number last time you thought that still is. I think it's still as I said a little circle. Urkel of death so I think we're okay God damn shooters okay. Okay any who toby. I'm hardly ever use my computer way. You know what you should bring it here. So I'm thinking maybe Thursdays bring it to forget it. It's just GonNa stay here forever because it's I'm just you know. We had a lot of issues that we ever like. You know what does this as a chromebook or L. it's an HP minds an HP too so we buy very. We spent about two granddaughters. Okay so my former. Hp was sucked ass and we can't even use anymore so now I'm using my husband's because it has more memory my other one ran a memory So using this one But it's many many years old also we just so. Hey guys you know what if you'd like to donate money to our podcast so we could buy new damn computer. That'd be great or donate a computer or just send us a computer because we have. We're having lots Kobe operating. It's just sits there okay. It doesn't do anything I once for the show anyways so I can set up our passwords for all of our Shit every nice. Just in case pitchers on there and stuff for me. I totally will do that will. He's busier than me. She'll do all the I'll get it. I'll get it totally all setup. I'll bring it next week. Okay let's do that. Yeah mouth and everything and it burgundy perfect all right. We'RE IN A. Are we going to your topic? We're going to go on to our topic talking. Oh Yeah it's just it's just you got guys may have noticed that on our facebook page. I posted a photo of the year. And all of the tragedies that happen that are happening and potentially could happen. Let's where the rest of the year. Oh my God. She's got the Rona I did. I did I tell you everybody. I thought of this morning yet. You told me but you should probably tell everybody I will tell everybody else errands. I woke up at two o'clock this morning. I could not believe my chest felt like there was a hundred pounds on my chest and I couldn't breathe super tight and I was thinking. Oh my God this is what it is guys. I'm dying now because if it's this bad right now and I was fine three hours ago when I went to bed. I'm fucking dying and then once I kinda came to a little bit realize what's going on. A thirty pound cat was my chest. Yeah once he got off yeah look alike pre the game. It's like they always say you feel like you had something pressing on your chest will you did. I did a thirty pound cat. He wasn't there when I fell asleep at my feet and then he migrated because he wanted some loves yeah and his face literally was probably taking the era my nose because his face was like resting on my chin. That's a big ASS fucking could've killed you you know. I know he could've smothered me because I felt like I was dying when I woke up literally so I had to move thirty pound cat which is very difficult. Do when he's laying on your chest you know and when you woke up to its you know your muscles aren't quite working so it's like like trying to know pick this cat up and it's like why is it so difficult right now. All I did was. I rolled over you just like I tried to push. And he wouldn't do it. He dug in his claws like fine. So I just rolled over on my side so go with me anymore. I don't know how many times I've yell. Stop it and my cats in the Mola night because they were getting in my face or laying on me or claw me or what playing with my feet and it's just like just right now. I hate everyone just me alone. Once you get to all of them over the age of seven they don't fucking do shit. Oh yeah they do. Which ones to it. How many over. Seven buddy and who Jinx think-tanks is seven? Oh Yeah She S. Oh Yeah because my oldest one is whiskey. Yes she's older. I got her in two thousand twelve cat house cat cat cat. You got after I met you. I remember her as a kit- kitten Feta okay. It was in two thousand and at least two thousand thirteen or fourteen when you got them okay. Well that's six or seven years ago Maybe he's older. Yeah sorry baby might be a little older. There are some aren't as all token and lily just turned one on Sunday. That was birthday birthday. They were one on Sunday or Saturday. Whatever anyhow it's May. Oh it's still may have captain this month. It's his birthday this month. Okay. Captain is six. Oh Buddy is how this megan yeah. He's he making seventeen. Honey that's your daughter and so we. I'm trying to remember got buddy when Megan was seven. So He's ten he is ten. What is this noise? I'm here? It is the neighbors and their music. Neighbors are annoying. Yes they yes they are over here. It's but if you're listening these ones or if you're really listening stop parking in front of the House so stopping loud. At least I. At least they're not playing the accordion right now. So just Mario and yeah well no they never have a band they just have the radio or the accordion. All right. Okay top. We're starting with the beginning of the year so the beginning of the year everyone was super concerned because the entire continent of Australia seemed to be on fire. Bright as the first thing I heard about Australia and I thought that was going to be the worst thing because it was horrible and was on fire and you know how many animals Kangaroos so many is known ex Lizard. Did anybody get a total of what they're saying? There's some of these animals are gonNA go extinct. It was bad it was. It was so bad really bad. I wanted to fly over there with all your which I don't I can't afford but I was going to do it. And I was going to get as many of them in there and put them in my house my scrap Austrailia bedroom kangaroos in my bedroom. Wallow fake that are very poisoning but I would get some wolf spiders to the big is. No nope absent. Wait they're friendly. Nope nope they're bigger than your face. Oh my God so excited about. That's the only reason I want to go to Australia. So I can meet one and put it to hand and put it in my two hands and take a picture with me kissing heather that is fucked up talking to bite me at loves people that is it loves people know it does love people you say no. You don't even know searched spiders. No I'm just saying no because we're not GONNA do that. Have to just take the pitcher. No of Me Kiss Casey. I won't get that close. I will not be in the same room. Consume in two hundred and fifty feet away from me. I will pay someone else. Take the pitcher me kissing the spine. So because you've mentioned this I'm never going to go to Australia with you. Mean with me ever. You'll go with me ever. Yes he will sign ever like that with your hand thing ever. Yeah you'll go okay. So that's what happened in January right. Everybody was super super concerned about that then. In February the next tragedy hits Kobe Bryant dies and it was especially poignant for us. Because we're we live. He had just visited this year which is literally a week before one week before which is super unusually live in a small town and he happened to come here because one of the seniors that were that played basketball and Kashmir had gone to a camp with his daughter and he had promised her income watcher plane he did he care to watch her play And it was a huge news like Yeah Circus Holy. Shit everybody was talking about. Yeah and and then he was the next week who has gone him and his daughter that had come with him and it was just just spit. Hit especially hard here because he was just here just here and I honestly I'm GonNa go on record. I've never was a Kobe Bryant Fan because I'm a Michael Jordan Fan Bulls Fan and he took some thunder from him. But I respected as game. See I don't know anything at all about basketball and I don't care you do but I just knew who he was. He was a phenomenal player for buying a touch like such a good person very so much when he was younger when he was hungry read take. He's got a little too early in my opinion and he did make mistakes in the marriage and had a public affair. It wasn't affair. I don't think it was really the whole thing because it was proved that it was it was it was but it was. Yeah I didn't I didn't necessarily believe it was I. I think I don't think he would. But I mean it was adultery. I didn't really have the best impression of him when he came out. He's like he's a family man. Now you know and he was young then grew up. And you know he's just tried by twenty. Yeah he was. Everybody makes mistakes. But what the kicker with this whole thing for me was is. I read an article that talked about him and his wife had talked about all the time because he started using his private helicopter to yeah to and from certain. Get home in time to this family. Which was great. And it has the money. Why not but they always promise never fly together their brain or a helicopter because of the risk of crash so one of them would still be alive to take care of the kids and they did. And I'm have goosebumps right now because of that but it's his daughter his one of the oldest one what of the older ones and she had a basketball game. They were flying the helicopter with other people on the plane. Other members kid. Yes that were playing on that same. Yes right okay heading to the same basketball onto Mike knowledge right well and what I read too. Was that all those other helicopters that refuse to fly. This guy flew flew anyways and it was a very experienced helicopter that cope. He had used multiple times and very trusted him. So you know. I didn't read it about other helicopters not wanting to talk to Wendy. It was too dangerous visibility. Wasn't fantastic either. So there were some things going against them but his normal helicopter pilot would do it for him. Okay did. He's probably done it before. Oh Yeah it's been as neural one. He used most of the time so I don't yeah and you know what's so sad. Is I know what you're about to say next as far as this time timeline. But it's funny because I just now remembered he did pass away like I had actually forgotten. Yeah because the Kovic has made us like I ball Stralia. I actually did too. And then then we got Kobe. I I've been watching the Michael Jordan last dancing which is phenomenal. If you're not as I WANNA watch it. It's phenomenal especially the parts of Dennis. Rodman kind. A he was crazy. Yeah well believe like literally. He is my favorite basketball player of all time. I actually have multiple posters changed the image of Sports. I feel like isn't I didn't like it. Extracurricular show he did no but I mean as far as like the image because remember before him. They wouldn't even let some of the players show their tattoos. They would make them up without bandages. No if you watch dance you a very different Rodman. When he played for the Pistons versus the Bulls because he well not really pistons. And then he goes to the spurs when he goes to the Spurs San Antonio Spurs. That's when he cited the say that's when he kinda hooked up with Madonna and he's like. Oh Yeah well. My hair can be crazy. Oh I can get tattoos. Oh I'm going to do all these piercings has he was straight laced with the Pistons. He was a fucking bad ass. No one wanted to go up and get this guy because he was still a defensive champion and he was still an off a off of rebound champion but then he kind of went out of control. And then the bowls bring in and that was very controversial because they were like. I don't know about this guy but they needed him. They needed somebody with that charisma for someone that can stop anybody. He was the best on ball defender. There ever lived in my opinion and I have multiple sources. That will back me on that statement. Best rebounder ever to this day. We'll be him. He Won Defensive Championship of the NBA Multiple Times. I know anyone that rebound championship at the NBA. I think it was seven times a year seven times like in a row. Ma Phenomenal player. If you had that guy on your I just know because he looked so different. Well look at that guy. Remember him and stop it or service dress. The funniest thing on the sandstone so so pippen had an injury. He had to be out so so. Godman step up and be Jordan's like right man hand because he had the most experience on the team is three years over Jordan in the NBA. He had three years experience in rock than so he had to step it up and be his like support to help lead. The team. Pippen comes back. They play one game. Together and Robin goes to the coach Phil Jackson. I need a break. I need to run off some steam. I can't go in the championships or anything. The Way I am right now I need to run off some steam. Have to be me. They let them they can. Okay what do you WANNA do? I WanNa go to Vegas okay. How Long Dean? Forty eight hours to doesn't WanNa go to Vegas for forty eight hours. Jackson said tells Jordan that he gave permission for Rodman to go for forty eight hours endured and goes them. What the hell you're doing. He's never gonNA come back. Don't let them go while they let him go because he's like you don't understand. We have to let them blow off some steam. Otherwise we're not. He's going to be worthless for us for the championship team. In the cool thing is they have the screen at said. Robin was okayed for basically he was given permission to go for forty eight hours to Vegas and then they do a time warp on the forty hours and ends up to like about a week time. Yeah goes from approved unapproved and Karma this worry meets. Calmer Electra is biggest trip so he ends up party with her and this is where they become an item and she says she was in his hotel room partying there knock on the door. They all hide Michael Jordan at the DOOR AT VEGAS. After he's been gone for a week saying all right dude vacations done. We have a game to play tomorrow. You're coming home now. Did Not know if you watch. You're going to see it. Okay that flex yes. Oh kind kinda on the ESPN ESPN WE HAVE THE SPN. And call the last dance or ten episodes. It's fantastic but I just thought that was so funny. So Michael Jordan had the drag is fucking ashkar electric and the videos or in the movie she was like. I was shocked. Michael Jordan was at the door dragging aspect to the game. You're done so. And then he was fine. He's loo office team. Any played a fucking great series. Wow with but wouldn't have probably made it the series of Michael Jordan. Come back and get us. Yeah because was sorry that I'm having a good time hot chick. That's how I feel when I'm in Vegas groove. Screw life here. I mean I don't know adulting I'm GonNa Gamble in. Yeah I think a lot of drake suggests go ahead now. It's even better than ever because laws have changed like you could literally do anything in Vegas gives us you know. That's actually on my bucket. List Demean Rodman. Someday he's my favorite basketball player of all time Okay and he's fifty seven now. I don't have a lot of time. Left is a really. Yeah he's fifty seven and what we're only two February guys thank you March. Marches Cova marches. Kobe nineteen is coming to kill us. Everybody and killed million it not millions. No one hundred thousand hundred thousand unites how worldwide though I don't know worldwide? I don't think it's a million cook. Go Room guess what I can tell you Rona batteries? I can tell you talked to. Mike should bring that up. I didn't know until Cova nineteen now. My only pastimes worry eating out in restaurants shopping at non essential businesses and touching my face up. Okay here we go global Global Cova. Dining night we are at five million. Eight hundred and ninety five thousand eight hundred eight cases confirmed how many was tell him and deaths worldwide. We're at three hundred sixty one thousand five hundred twenty. That fucking sucks. Us We have one hundred thousand of those. How many Italy have? Why can play? Italy's way down. Italy has thirty three thousand deaths. Uk has thirty seven thousand deaths. I'm I'm not doing the the eight hundred all right so. Spain has twenty seven thousand deaths. Russia has four thousand Brazil. Twenty six thousand. Us One hundred and two thousand. Yeah do that. Goddamn everyone hates the Rona I right. That was march of this year. Yeah that's march April from Kobe Remembered on April our entire economy tanks and. Ufo's are now real. Yeah we you know I think the US put that up is so they would make us all. Stop thinking about the covid. Maybe because why would they baby doe's of frigging? Ufo's yeah okay. I didn't make this shit up like this. Is this real? It's real fake thing after nineteen thing. No they actually posted it for real so legit. This was posted there. Did you see the video? There's actual video by the government f out the UFO. Yes there was yes. What the VIBE IN I. You're still working your hiding from the Rono. That's actually stopped listening to the news. And that's I don't blame you. You F Oser up in April April. You coulda watch an actual you and actually looks like you have kind of at the night but you can see. Yeah it's it's free. Where did where was. Where was it out? It looks like it was just in the sky at night. You know what you oppose are real. Now they're real. We are already knew that already that. Now they're saying okay. Let's like blaming them for the code. No China so yeah okay. It's still trying to sell China Chinese. Okay now we're demet right now so what's happening in. May a giant murder? Look there in our state there in our state and I'm probably most of your states but let's you're listening from Japan. We have. Yeah You keep your giant murder. Hornets over there Japan. I heard that they average about what is between thirty and forty deaths a year in Japan for murder Horn. Those things are fucking. They fly across the Pacific Ocean. Brought here they were. They hooked they hitchhiked on a boat or made it over here actually was picturing someone capturing oh doing research on over here and like here we go. I think then is the how I think that they hitch hitch hiked over the worst thing about them. Is they like to kill me BS. So and they've got to be genetically modified because nobody's ever seen these type of Moreno they've had them in Asia don country. This is not a new thing though this new contract yeah supposed to have them. They're they're not needed to our country can't be there is it's like when the Anaconda came into Florida they're not supposed to believe and that's rushing a lot of the why that's why a lot of wildlife has gone extinct in Florida. You introduce a new speed. Even if it's like of weird like bug they win would do anything. All I mean like a murder Horn it just it just going to crush when the name of something as giant murder. Hornet or giant like. That's just be here. I love bugs and I see giant murder Hornet. I'm not going near that thing. It's watching that one question if you're allergic to bees. I'm assuming obviously you die instantly. Well Hornet even. If you're not allergic to bees gets done enough times by this thing you're dine. Yeah so it doesn't matter if you'RE ALLERGIC YOU'RE ALLERGIC. You're probably going instantly with SAP but if you're not they still can kill you because they're relentless because like honeybee can only singing like one time there falls off these guys can keep staying you over and over and over again and then you'll your been your kill out every other being in the world and they're just have you seen a picture. There are angry looking angry as big as your hand. Their kids your hand so the goal in our state was to wipe them out by the end of this. Summer's wouldn't be interstate anymore. But Kobe just told me they migrated up to Canada. I I read I read. Yes I told you that because I just read just popped up on my news feed somewhere here. Now is not good. It's not so they're already migraine meeting. I just saw flash that phase three for Idaho and murder Hornets into Canada. That was used far. Blaine is on the Canadian. That's where we are now. Jimmer Hornets are almost word Monday. Monday were into June so for June. What are we going to have to look forward? To the underground crap. People are discovered and they like to eat humans. Okay so like a funny little that you guys did too but the first three one or three. What's the fucking murder Hornet Right crapper? Hey if you would have seen this list and twenty nineteen and went. That's all bullshit and then the three for three where I don't know for sure but has anybody all wait wait. No that's four four five. We've got five five month that we have we had the fires. Toby coby coby. Ufo's and giant murder Horn and Y ou far we can prevent all five of all my God there. Better not be fucking grab people. They're gonNA make till forty so in August yummy good life. Good one August is when Godzillas GONNA come back out of way will just skipped right over July kill out. The TAP been cracking. People are silliness. Everybody what happened in July. That's when the apes with guns on horseback come and try to everybody from the laboratories in the United States in August and was Godzilla comes out of the ocean. He's fucking pissed. Okay but is it Loch Ness guys? It could be your cars some nice pictures of nasty. Okay and then in September Because of the covid Nineteen vaccine-testing is when we get the Zombie. Yeah we came to look forward to. I actually think that has a high chance of hassle. Wailua let me ask you though. Is this when the vaccine comes out? Are you going to get no? I'm not planning on getting it. No I don't plan on it so my dad has already told me he is going to be in front line to get this shit now and I was like well. You go in the quarantine for a few months before I see. I'm not GonNa Song. That's not good so we're going to have to wait until December four CA. Tulu rocked right over your birthday. My birthday is the same as yours. I know people come back November. We just have a second wave of crab December that we got to lewd. There will be no ca to Lou. Have no idea okay. He's taking collusion an evil demon. God He's GonNa Supernatural. He's GonNa come out of that ocean supernet apocalypse and so his role. He's pissed now so next year old. Now Know Okay Monster. We're trying we're dealing with the evil demon God ca Tulu and then at the start of next year only for the evil GAW is what we bring Sam and Dean. Winchester back to fight them. We could do that. That's why they do that. Do that CIARDI next year nagging. Like next January's when actually the aliens will actually invade the Earth so they showed us there and so there come back in January. Maybe I'll maybe I'll get to go to another planet. Maybe we talked about living on Mars before we decided I was just thinking. We're going to that time capsule but we had because the ground was frozen. If we did do the time capsule we should put massive snacks and toilet paper. Just against a code comes back everybody the past ten years. Yes because it's supposed to its Kovic. I'm just saying supplies should be bigger now that with happen and people winning paper and some twinkies bad whatever. I'm GONNA put some cans of chicken. Did you see that one thing because I know Kobe did this? Lady an author a while back. When was it like in to? It was early two thousand dollars when she wrote this she wrote in two thousand and twenty that there would be a pandemic flu like symptoms way affect the lens would kill heard about an yes people and that it would come and then vanished just as fast as Kane. Yeah it would be gone for ten years and then we come back ten years later and infect us all again and be gone forever. I heard that from somebody else or I read that or something. That's very very. She dented this years ago. And it's coming true right so I think a good idea for shit in our time capsule Yup Yup Big Time Capsule because we're GONNA have to have like three or four cases of toilet paper yet we need to. We need to cases of wine. Yeah because you know everyone's talking now stocked up wine and Sound Doomsday Kid. It's a time capsule so you don't have to like we are we gonna do the bomb shelter and then we could have had a bomb shelter. Yes on the cases of wine. Yeah we need to build the Don. We're going to dig anyway for the time cal. Let's dig in the that mountain back there and get our bolts belter. Do it in your backyard. Yeah we did and we can dig really far ran an excavator. Just start digging. Do you own that. Yes she owns it all the way up to the top all the way up to those Roth so you're right about. She legit owns the mountain. Oh okay so we're going to dig in the mountain. We're like build a tiny town. It's going to be an yeah series of like caves and Tom. I in seller in there. Yeah we'll have a little room to like smoke Stephan. Yeah air filtration system and fresh water so we have a little bathroom. Yep Yep Yep Yep with some a little thing that captures the rain water and wondering Vince Tamil System. Solar power out there. Yes yes. Nice days the rocks. So yeah we'll do all this and then we'll be good and when this next thing shit comes we'll all get together long just time capsule together also go in February of next year. God what's going to happen with the Cleveland? Browns will win. The Super Bowl has ended. That's a sad thing is is you never hear about the Cleveland Browns? So about I'm pitches not in a good way to hear about the seahawks. When all that the time they were horrible. My Dad loved the seahawks. My Dad to watched every game. And it'd be so frustrated. My Dad's so q he'll literally like bring out his vintage seahawks. Tiny t shirt hikes and. He's skinny my dad skinny bits like he's not as skinny little. Tease like shrunk tiny little belly shirt. He just rocking his little like Seahawk. Old School shirt like yeah. He's like now teams. Good waiting for go dad. You wait long enough. I'm glad of happened in their time frame. Because my dad was he was just like that. He didn't have the t shirt because he's not skinny. Thank God Iraq that But he had his headphones on. 'cause you know none of us want to listen to the game so he has headphones on the game. A little bullet chips Yup. Everyone so obviously the game they lost. Yeah so now he lives in Arizona and he rocks his little seahawks. Flag was little seahawks. Free Door I miss right now. There's no baseball or do you. The Seattle Mariner Air Fan last year. This time Jeff and I were going to Mariner Games battle and now there's nothing to get to go to like three or four. Last year. We went to to last year G row. Now he's retired. Is he retired retired for retired. My favorite player. Yeah I know I love. He was so freaking talented. Yes I love. Even though he couldn't speak Lick English now after being the United States for how many years he's still didn't learn any years. If you try anyway so why will have to give a little interpreter? That probably follows honestly. Don't know any baseball players other than Babe. Ruth let me tell you in Griffey. Junior best thing is a world is sitting at the baseball fields in the sun relaxing. Back with your one hand with your lemonade. Vodka and the other hand on your mariner hot dog. I was GONNA say your bucket full of but watch did those natural so good. I ate them off the ground. Yes she did not. I never touched the fork. Never touched Ellsberg time. You guys found the gross blanket. A gross wasn't gross. Said was kids. Why wouldn't stories? It was like a separate blanket can literally my husband would turn all. I remember him turning to Mingo Kobe. Sh and I'm like what he's like. You keep yelling. Fuck why she did say fuck a lot. Everybody around us like left like they did they all left. They left their shit. Yeah Heather picked it all up express fuzzy. Like here's a and it was bobblehead night. You're like I lost. Ten bobbleheads is people didn't want their kids get up. Go go go quickly kids. Drop drop that now. You know what I noticed. You didn't say I got you down to the field touch the field. I did touch on courage. That was before the game. Yeah she caused the feel. I did and I picked up dirt on her. I go I get on my hand. I never have been able to do that but I went to a game. Once they let the kids run the basis. All the kids. Well it must have been some kind of cute little event or something but all the kids who wanted to participate after the game down. Yeah maybe it was little league night. Got To run the bases as fast as they could and they were limited The last time I went the game we went to his on a Sunday. And we didn't realize that last year on Sundays with you got there early enough which we would get two hours before the game. They would let everyone walk out onto the field and you guys got to walk out. Yeah and just walk around the entire field and watch them when they were doing their warm ups and stuff like that and so we'd never done that before so we got to walk around the whole field. And I was like taking pictures. Like crazy like yeah so it was really great while she was drinking vodka lemonade. I didn't know you making memories right now. I was going to have to get wine because the hard alcohol. You have to sit in a special area. You want to drink it but they were like. Oh but then somebody had this like somebody's sitting next to us as like I'm like what is that. Look so good like lemonade with pink. Lemonade with vodka. Mike where the fuck did you get that? And she's like told me like I'm GonNa go get that if so good. It's like thirteen box though for like an sixteen so expensive But it was so good so yeah. I had my pink lemonade. Vodka and life is good. I know I love right here. So who's your favorite player? So I really like the pitcher Gonzalez just because he's from Wenatchee. I played Wenatchee for the apple socks. Oh I didn't know that even on the team for a while yeah. He played for the apple socks in the went to the majors so he actually came to so where I work at this market. In February we usually have mariners come and do like a question and answer session and they sign autographs and so he came last year. He's lives in my hometown. So I actually got a touchdown and so I touch. I got a picture like I got my picture with them and there was way more than Pinky on that shit and I was like. Oh can I get my picture and then I just like glue on Tony. I picture handsome Guy Panic yes. It was not touching. Your drill can little man Koby love so that was awesome and then we got to go to the Games and watch him play and so it was so much file. That's fun I love it. He's a really good pitcher he get very good. Yes yes that was. One of Thorson might birthday gifts to jeff last year. Yeah one of the Games. Holy they went to a good gift. Giver yes she girl wait. You already knew this like damn good gift. Well was an experience it was. Oh Fun fun honestly. We spent about the same this year with the golfing. Yeah well once we do the dinner thing you all of it because there's no restaurant boo while you guys. You know what that's going to we're going to have to wrap it up Oh we're already topic though. I liked our gear of Tragedies there's there's a couple more so if you WANNA low go on our facebook page and look at all the tragedies that you have to look forward to you this year because I don't know you guys Monday texts me. Please view here so I know some people we're GONNA we'll figure it out like Rangers pinchers like what can we do to crabs? What do crab boil boil down with butter? Yup We'll just have a bunch of butter out front house. Say there's poss- boiling inside coveted. Razzie what a crabs much people there are they. Vegetarians vegetarian hair. They might eat little fishes or Kinda crabs they kratzer mean they walk sideways. Say Do they walk sideways. Why it's because that's how are feed are? Have you ever seen one walking their creepiest? Shit they look like little aliens. Okay this says that from dad to living fish. The barnacles plant snails shrimps worms and even other crabs I also. It's a sucker of the ocean. It's like filter when we were in seaside several years ago. When we were watching people crab off the docks like watching people crab. I'm we talking to them. Because a lot of the crabs. If they're not big enough they have to throw them Ebola measuring. Yeah Yeah but we're asking them in the crab traps. They like a trap thing while. Yeah. What do you put in a trap for the crab? Put fish raw hamburger raw hamburger. Don't even care. They will so any slur like cow out fantastic on deadliest deadliest catch what. God really sick Sir. Cow Down here is like five star member with forgotten. Don't bring it to white. Might be wiped. Don't think is Hawaii there. On Shark Week there was an island. That actually has a bunch of cattle on their island when they die they just dump them in the ocean and the tiger sharks around their eat them and because of this relationship that they have with feeding these tiger sharks with they have been for years. The people can actually swim with the tiger sharks because they're full and they don't WanNa eat anybody they don't want to talk anybody and so it's been this great thing with them because they just they're feeding every day with dead cows because that's how many cows are on this island. That's how that's they're not feeding live house Kobe. They're feeding them dead cows down but still the ones that just die because whatever you know but they love home. I'll find that I'll find the video. Okay all right. We have to sign off guys. We're done okay. But Hey go check out our facebook page. Because there's some other disasters that I didn't talk about that are on the list is won't be if you have a disaster that we haven't mentioned please email us at other. Zhenmin stuff at Yahoo Dot com draws a line on our website or facebook page at others random stuff. You do that because we'd love to hear all of ten fan are Ted Bands. And you know you know her number. Just text me. So that's all right guys. Stay say maybe don't stay home and watch out for people and take a walk. Gets people get you? Yeah Heather said okay.

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Salty Utah Queens Ep. 16 - Cancel the Ceiling!

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Salty Utah Queens Ep. 16 - Cancel the Ceiling!

"Guys guys guys. Okay. First of all, nine one fucking one pop in nine-one-one. My biggest enemy is walking a dog at night guys. Okay, literally who did who did this to Gaga and her dog walker? I'm not okay after this journey. Pray pray for God hashtag Justice for Koji hashtag find Gustav, hashtag $500,000. So yeah, so if you didn't know that no questions asked if we woke up today with the news that Lady Gaga who's in Italy filming her Gucci movie which I can't wait for can't wait. She's also brunette now. It's just pictured with a brunette locks and like a leopard print dress showing some leg walking from like a car to a buildings. All I need to do is just walk from car. I live that gave me another day of purpose on this planet dog has if you are a fan of Gaza or follow her and social media, you know that she's a proud French Bulldog mom and is obsessed with her French Bulldogs. Her was three and there she calls them like Piggies long. She's a she loves them. And there's this photos of them like grazing and her incredible compound in Malibu and like the magic our son like they're just perfect dogs. They are piggy their little pigs. It's really dead. Sad story her dog walker was walking the dogs on Sunset and Sierra Bonita, which is right near me last night Simon and I were like, why are there so many helicopters? Cuz there's always something fucking going on a Hollywood. We lit like the helicopters are always above our apartment. We're just in like an area of like your ground zero zero. Yes investigating crime, but I was like this there's news. There's there's a lot of new I was like, there's something going on and then citizens said that someone had been shot and I was like, oh that's sad but that's been happening a lot. So it's kind of like just another night in Hollywood. Well this morning turns out it's God has dog walker got shot four times in the chest. He's still alive, which is Incredible. God and God he's alive and her dogs were napped. They were dognapped off taken away. And God is offering a $500,000 reward for anyone who can give them for find information or find the dogs. Or just like return the return the like she's basically paying a ransom of half a million dollars, which if you had her money, why wouldn't you I'd go a million. Yeah, I'd go full million. I'd go 1 million each I'd say no questions asked I will leave like a briefcase with a bodyguard at this location and you just show up and give him the dogs. He'll give you the briefcase all cash unmarked bills ever talked about it get never talked about again. It's fine. Just give me my dog's back. But like these are this is a literally karela DeVille show like this is a true like celebrity dogs are like hot kamat's in the crime could never dogs are like very coveted and there are also I mean, they're incredibly expensive dogs to get in the first place. Like I feel like they're like two to three k just to get like a real cute healthy one, but then Also, I feel like they're classic dogs to kidnap. But this tapped into one of my absolute worst fears that I've thought of multiple times when taking Tony out for like his last walk of the night cuz I'm like what if someone like he's really cute like he's truly the cutest pug maybe in the world. If you're listening you're trying to dognap. I'm a gun. So don't she will Laura would try plugging I will so then I'm like, what would I do? Like if someone approached me and tried to take away from me? I'd say you're going to have to kill us but Hey, listen your dogs or people's children and pry this dog out of my cold dead hands. He's our son and these dogs were clearly goggles kids cuz she doesn't have kids and it's like, you know My questions are like was it targeted? Was it someone that is it sort of a Kim K situation of like they they were following her in social media and like kind of casing him or was it just what is somewhat saw understand what you're going to get out of selling these Frenchies. Like I don't know people are desperate people are desperate. I think you'll like Frenchie puppies. So is are you trying to sell them like as dark web as Gods French babies and have someone make like pay you what like ten K. Yeah and like one people suck. I don't want I would not want to even if I was desperate for a dog. I wouldn't want to buy someone else's stolen dogs a famous person, especially a famous person dead stolen fully grown dogs would not appeal to me just like from a This is not just like this is lady got like I'm not just saying this cuz I'm like a a little monster but like you're a little bummed but this is like she is like one of the most famous people in the world. So it's like you're going to get people are going to page will probably find out that if you have these dogs that you can't brag about you can like just in mesh and such a life of crime that like to join your friends do things like this all the time and are like but which I wouldn't put past them rich people like jazz people people are weird right now. People are really crazy. I think tucking dogs about you're going to make more money just giving the dogs know that's a she played that Riot. Yeah, but like selling that I was just thinking at least they saved one. I did not where were the three dogs? Yeah, Miss Asia. She got with Taylor Kinney. He probably was worried cuz that's his they think they have stood her joint custody wage. Oh, yeah, so Miss Asia was recovered. So some like where was she? I don't know but she's a star cuz I was looking at all the paparazzi photos of like the cops rescuing her and she truly has like it's giving me Patty Hearst like oh Survivor, bye-bye like Miss Asia. Like I need a movie about Miss. Asia is like horrible trauma of like her brothers being stolen and like her running to freedom, but now living is like a solo dog. Oh my God was she just like she's really she's serving like she's serving glamour. She's serving Survivor. She's serving victim energy in these like gorgeous pop photos of her and sometimes she knows how lucky she was. She knows that mama is going to be happy. Yeah, if I were dogs, I would fucking put Miss Asia on a private plane and be flying her to Rome to be with me song. Oh and hurry, her dog walker identified is Ryan Fisher. Look how cute he is. I know it's like a nice guy sweet gay. Oh, oh my God, but God will probably like pay for his recovery. And yeah, I mean, oh my God, look at them. Look at her. I'm looking at the recovery and the cop holding the cops arm. She's wrapped in a blanket like she truly is surveying. I'm just giving us a glamorous Survivor moment. Look at her being thrust into the back of an awaiting Escalade is how I hope to be rescued from an attempted kidnapping. Oh my God. Wow, look at her. She's a proud bolt. She's a proud friend. She she looks a little scared. She should be she just witnessed like an absolutist trauma. Oh these photos of her. How did she get headed? He find her know she fucking escaped and got the hell out of there with a guys. I think I'm going to start cleaning out is literally like the Sean my phone background. Oh my God Laura. This is pictured. I you know heartbreaking. But hopeful and I pray that Koji and Gustavo found. or returns Asia She knows her worth and she's like I'm going home to Mom. She's a fucking fighter. Anyway, I am wishing Gaga. I'm sending her love and peace and I hope I hope her dog walker recovers and You know. It's hard out there people are really I think people are just the pandemic has made people desperate and we're all everyone's strapped for cash and it's just a lot of hardship going on and it's no excuse at all, but I'm saying I think it's made people like it's heightened people steaks. And I don't know if did they just I see this like guy walking these like plush looking pups and was like, I'm going to fucking suck at them or maybe you following them because of social media. That's what I want to know. I Think I need to get a stun gun. I think that's like the next step for me. Yeah, you need a you just need like a I don't want to shoot anyone a gun feels like way too much. Like I just don't feel comfortable with that at this point, but I have been like I've had a craving to purchase a weapon of some sort. So I think it's done gun feels you're just ready self-defense weapon feels correct to me as a single woman with a precious dog that I would I mean Tony is Tony is a crown jewel of it's scary. We have Los Angeles. I remember when I was there was a Michael Vick who was in you know, he was with the Eagles fighting. He was off his ring was they were dog napping sweet like smaller dogs from their yards and Salad Chick in the area and using them as bait to life that the they would practice like ripping the dogs to to shreds trigger warning and Logan Logan would be in the backyard and I and I was like shit like that's my fear that someone's going to change my sweet Puch my sweet my sweet beloved Schnoodle who's now in dog heaven, but like that was scary. I literally could not I think about Tony I think about Simon's dog mango who's also like a sweet an angel baby potato who's like a plush Prince. What where's where's their Justice? I'm going to get my leg sawed off and then just an automatic rifle rifle sod onto it. Yeah, so that if anyone approaches me, I can just merely lift my leg Rose McGowan style and take them out. Yeah, you're going to like you're going to go I kind of walk a little bit weird because one leg is a rifle and one legs or regular length, but you might not know because I wear like a baggy pants or a sweatpant but if you approach and try and take Tony away, I will blow you the fuk away with my rifle life, right? I need a body modification. Like that's like first the stun gun and then the appropriate body modification to where my like an extension of my body is a self-defense weapons. I just go. God the drama of like a Hollywood kidnapped like these little porky baby. Okay. Now I have to stop cuz I'm getting into like know it's like too much that shot of her in the car off. There's a shot of Miss Asia in like the front car seat looking bereft but also like glad to be rest. Yeah. Yeah and The Bodyguard has his hand on her repairs for Koji and Gustav. Just return the dog. That's way better that way. I know I hope yeah, I hope you have five hundred K. Chill, but how do you give 500? thousand dollars to someone else without like exposing them as If I was one of the girlfriends or boyfriends or like family member of the dog Nappers, I would just like I would give them up immediately. I turn their asses in it's like a I mean, he also took almost killed a human. So it's like I know I remember the there's a human like in the hospital, but that's it. Like how do you like it seems impossible to do both turn the dogs back in and get the money and then get away with shooting someone. Yeah. So that's where things get a little dicey. Yeah. Well, we'll stay tuned. We'll be following this story. I will no longer be walking my print. No, I'm actually going to start crying know I am too. I'm like very close to starting my period and it's a heavy duty emotional Journey when I'm around this time. My hormones are raging and I summon you can't think of anything worse than getting your dogs taken away Sunday strength. Also suck suck. Okay. I mean there are obviously lots of worse things that could happen than that, but like four people that who's dogs are all they have there is nothing worse. It's just it's just so it's all just so off like just a spectacle. Well prayers to gagah Cooper dog walker recover and I hope the kidnappers got other pups are found. Yeah serve the sweets wage slice of Justice. I hope the Monster little monsters rise up and find whoever did this. I believe that they could yeah. I think that you can't get away with anything these days. I'll find out like there's so much security footage and like social media and like investigators like wage. I think that they will be found that they will be found. I trust I trust the power of little monsters. One of them is a hacker. Absolutely. How I'm going to look for them, I'm going to keep my eye out for them today when I'm cuz I live roaming the street. I live really close. Can I I just I can't believe like I went to bed last night being like I wonder what that was tonight. And then it's fucking it's Lady Gaga's dog walker. Like it's crazy L life is insane Tinseltown. I tell you Hollywood just another Hollywood tale of the Hollywood tail speaking of Hollywood drama guys. I'm Kerry. I'm Laura and you're listening to two months and see you knew unique podcast. Salty, Utah Queen's Queen's birthday. home I just Googled how much is a stun gun in the first thing that came up is how much is a stun gun at Walmart? And I'm happy to tell you all but a stun gun Sabre tactical stun gun with an LED flashlight is a mere nineteen ninety nine $19. It's literally $20 holyshit save the life of your pooches. Damn. Well, I want to get a 9 million volt stun gun. Unfortunately, that one's out but that's also 1997 so actually cheaper than the original stun gun holyshit. But now that I'm looking at them, I feel like the LED flashlight. Oh my God, there's a pink one. The LED flashlight is key. This is one is a strong pain inducing model for self-defence with a wrist strap holster warranty and free training video ya off LED lights crucial for disorienting your attacker and then you've done the fuck out of them and run with your Pooch to safety. Dog numbers be warned don't fuk with Tony Shane Halls literally don't because you're going to get your going to guess you will get you will get stunned. You will first see lights and be like where am I what's happening? And then you will get a 9 million volt of stun right to your fucking balls and I'll literally don't give a fuk. No, I I'm I support you and I I mean I want to some stun gun testimonials from listeners. Do you have one? What brands do you offer and stun gun? The stun gun Community Reach Out. Where's my stun gun Hive We Gather we ride tonight We Gather we stun we need some stun guns on this house wives of bath Salt Lake City Reunion set like they're asleep we do cuz people were out of control. I just need to Heather Heather was Heather has earned a place in my enemy portal and she will remain there until she earned my trust again married at the style. Someone sent me this guy who's like an empath Jamie. Yeah sign. Yes read. He's been on the Pod before what up, Jamie Jamie Hive We Gather we read and I just followed him his break down Heather's Behavior was so accurate and it was a great read. She was just like she was kind of all over the place. She was crying at other people's choice like Kind of making everything about her. Yeah. I just wrote shut up Heather multiple times, but the real star and I and I I eat my words wage because the real star turns out sealed the deal in the very last few minutes Meredith marks. The true star of the show really? I think she blew me the fuk away in this episode and I am fully a Meredith head quiet Queen quiet wage. Silence is golden and is silent speak volumes. Only Meredith could look good in that Halloween tuxedo dress. Yeah, but she's killing it her haircut is Major her cheekbones are popping and she is here to say a few months. He sentences she doesn't need to say much but when she said just very important, so I was very she gazed. She's at the end became my MVP. Yeah. I'm obvious. Oh, yeah. Well, she's off in the Hall of fucking Fame and I also cemented Mary in the Hall of Fame and Jen cuz I fucking live for Gen. Yeah, I do too. I ride and I am I for one gen Shah Heather and Whitney, though. Hello, I'm Whitney can go fuck themselves. So we so we start out with that to me Lisa finally comes back and her like copper. Russ dress beautiful Slinky dress they're gorgeous extensions. And she said she's I'm back. Let's go and she looks in ND and he's like, wow, you look like a completely different person least because I'm good. I'm great. Let's go shoot. She does look Flawless. She looks gorgeous. Her tan has like somehow settled. Yeah even now and like it wasn't as noticeable. Yeah, the husband committed installment and let me just say Kerry I owe you an apology because John comes out looking I'd like an apology from not only you but others did you get trolled a lot for your know John last a few but like I feel very alone in my beliefs and I feel Vindicated by this look seems to have put on a little bit of muscle and like he also partook in a spray tan and both are doing it for me and he seems a little cooler calm or collected yet. Also more engaged. She's maybe more camera ready and Camera comfortable perhaps Lisa got him some media training and he's hung like a horse. Yeah. I'm fat fat fatak. John walking out on set and ready to go and I'm here for it. I love it. You had to tape his dictators fascinating cuz that's like a job. He takes 1 hour and like four people fall down, you know, I mean, maybe I'm just fucking projecting but like I know it's John Hamm style. Yeah Lisa would accept anything that Lisa. Yeah. Sorry. Thank you for saying that. I feel really know. I had truly. I'm sorry. Thank you. I stand with you. Thank you. I'm glad Roberts not thrilled to be there Robert senior who can blame him. He says he goes. I'm not excited for what's coming. Bear Jen has a bye Felicia fan. So I was like okay. Oh, I didn't see that. She like picks out for a second starts fanning herself and it says bye Felicia. Zethus Skyping in from Canton, Ohio. Shout out to Cameron. He's if there's one thing he's truly committed to its Canton Ohio. Yeah. Coach Shaw comes out wrong looking fresh. So hot. So trashy looks very sexy. She is gorgeous man. Yes, and he's just really inside and out. Good man. Good harm. Whitney is Marshmallow Man husband comes out and talks about how he takes to the stripper pole. Sometimes Okay, Whitney and her husband look alike. They do like they could be like an older brother and sister. Yeah, like he was like, wow, they're they're the same like they they're either so enmeshed or they just like maybe are related wage. each other Yeah, who knows? I don't trust either of them for one hot second. Sometimes get on the pole. And he actually is very good with his turns out. He's like there's about Whitney says They gross me out. Why was I half expecting Heather's like zombie x to be there? He should have been what's his name? Billy Billy Billy Goat Gruff off. I wanted to see it. Literally. You know that story. Where you going where Have You Been by Joyce? Carol Oates is Arnold is Arnold friend. He's Arnold friend. Like I fully believe he has hubs four feet long part. That is one of the haunting scariest short stories ever written. teaching Billy but like is he Arnold friend or is he the guy in the front seat of the car? Who's just like maybe dead that Arnold friend is traveling with he's both of them cuz aren't friends. Either way. There's a lot of our own friend is like wasn't is he described as like wearing a face that looks like he's wearing someone else's face. Maybe he is probably sexier than old Billy boy, but I think that we can all agree that there's something satanic about Billy. There's something very Joyce Carol Oates about them. I agree. Shout out to Joyce. Love you. Joyful Shadow child to join us on Shadow is Carolyn Wiley splitter Wild on Twitter. I wish that she listen to the podcast if she does. Hey Joy Wok yourself a favor and read a Joyce story today. Yeah read where you going RiverWinds? Connie Andy asks Lisa about her throwing John's Rolex out the window and she reveals that she picked him up from the airport her birthday and he forgot her birthday. And she said didn't you forget to say something and then he said what do you want this back here take the Rolex back and she said you have about three seconds to put that back on your risk, or I'm throwing it out the window and then she goes 123 and threw it out the window in front of a Taco Bell. And then she was like now go in there and get me a Diet Coke. Queen shit. Yeah, she's Unapologetic and then he put the Rolex back on. No, I've I stand with Lisa we find out more about. Jenin Sharif Sharif. Jen is you know as as we found out she was very upset because Sharif didn't make it to her father's funeral and she's still harboring a lot of anger at him towards that but we find out that I'm not sure if did come to visit and he the father was in very bad condition in the hospital then Sharif came and his spirits brightened up. I guess they're really close because Sharif I think just has like that magnetic charm and like healing I would choose to live another day will myself survive 24 hours on my deathbed and Sharif showed up. Me too. Yeah. So he was sort of like a the dad brightened up in his like he got a little more like pep in his step when Sharif came and And then Sharif had to leave again for work and Jen was like maybe if you had been she kind of like blamed him a little for like maybe my father would have lived if you had been there which I think is like speak a little jealous to put on. Yeah, but you know grief is irrational. Yeah and Jen admits that she didn't know what she was dealing with and obviously this death hit her off a ton of bricks. So I understand like and it seems like she's still processing a lot of that pain. Yeah, we need husband. They talk about Whitney's husband's Justin getting winning her husband being kind of excommunicated from the church and just got a letter from the church that said like you're not in the temple anymore. Yeah, they straight-up dismissed his boss. And then Heather Heather starts crying and I thought she was going to say like I also received a letter but she's crying because she could potentially birth of a letter to this is me. Okay, and and then leases like well, you still go to church Heather like I still see you in church. Yeah, Lisa's going bullshit on like the whole Endeavor and then Heather's like well, no actually like the if you are divorced it's like really hard and then leased it goes you can cancel ceiling then I was like excuse canceled. I love sci-fi room that I know nothing about. Yeah, and I thought she meant like canceled the ceiling like the ceiling above your head glass is like, how are we canceling this feeling like let me in on this but then Andy asked her to clarify and I guess like you can go a Step Beyond just regular marriage. And birth is MM and you can get sealed for all eternity and Beyond to your partner. Yeah, but you can also cancel the seal. She goes John and I are bound forever and in the seal and part of the temple forever for eternity. We found out she goes she goes Mormons are okay with divorce you guys John was married before me he's divorced. My parents are divorced everyone in my life is divorced. everyone's divorced Here's what about it? I love. Major also like I don't I'll bet if you give enough money. You're never going to get a letter just missing you. Yeah, like yeah, so like let's be honest. I would dismiss Justin from this reunion if I could I would dismiss both him and Whitney from this show. So like I understand and I stand with the Mormon religion. I'm sure they were bringing down the vibe. I wouldn't want to hang out with them at church. We find out it's more about the how their relationship like that they were, you know having Affairs on their own respective spouses. So I think I think adultery is probably Look down upon but like Mormons Mormons be treated. I'm sure everyone in every religion cheats. So it's You know, but I was I was very tickled by Lisa kind of being like what's the big deal you can cancel the ceiling John and I are sealed be returned in the temple. I'm planet kolob. Literally me being like what feeling I know it was it just feels like to me and I know I'm not trying to like the offensive but like it sounds like cuz I just know nothing there's so much mystery tumor ISM for me that there's some like I'm like, wow, this is so out. Like I don't I have no concept of what she could be talking about and that's and I love that. I love it too. It's very thought Mormonism. I think does have a very like sci-fi element to it. It does and is similar to Scientology in that way like where they have kind of their own myths and facts different planet than whatever but I'm intrigued and I would like to know more and honestly leases Ardent Mormonism. I'm into it and it makes me Mormon curious and like I'm I would love to learn more. I think I said earlier in the season, but everyone took like a deep dive into the Mormon how it came about listen to last podcast on the left has like a four or five part series about Mormonism where they go on like yeah deep deep dive off of like Brigham Young John Smith, like how it all started. It's too crazy story and like all the the government was like trying to basically like genocide them at one point. Like the president was just like get rid of like answered Johnson, I think was like trying to get rid of them at one point like it was it's sure crazy shit, but also it was I'm not going to spoil anything but like the founder of Mormonism John Smith who like wrote the The Book of Mormon. He's a wild he's like his family were like magicians off like they were like into magic with a k Like they were like into the occult and like The Allman like they were Almanac people and like agrarian magicians. So that's all I'm going to like say about that. Nothing gets people more riled up than religion true. I'm like y'all y'all do fake. Anyways, it's all take out here. Let me tell you know, it's like it literally is just like do whatever works for you and makes you feel happy, but you don't need to like get all pissy at other people. I mean that was when backing believe in Lawrence and like what it's like. It's like the cause of every conflict ever. It's like trying to level with the world guys like guys like take a fucking chill pill. Yeah, let people believe whatever they want to believe it works for that as long as they're not harming but Know so many people harm others in the name of their religion or like under the guy under the guise of their religion, you know, but every everyone does that that's like religious almost I would say almost everyone does that even if it's harming is like excluding certain people because of their sexuality or like their religious beliefs. It's like accept wage ends. Yah, wiccans are pretty chill. I think some Buddhists are very chill. So yeah, and maybe like the more Eastern kind of religions, but there are also dialed is there some Buddhist that are like wage Wars against other Buddhists and I'm like doesn't that go against like everything that you stand for is a Buddhist also the Black Dalia Lama was like into Keith raniere he so so Vanguard, hi, Miss Vanguard. Okay, this is there another season? Yeah, fucking all those annoying Vanderpump Nexium people are doing another season of their annoying HBO show, but they're going to talk to Vanguard on it. That's literally the only reason to tune into their sorry asses. anyways Robert and Mary site on FaceTime and that's life-giving to me at one point. Mary goes I'm stronger than my husband and he goes she's right and then off and he's like, I don't really want to be on this like, well, he's not happy and he's like kind of joking with him. He's like, I know you don't really want to be here and then Mary turns around and goes be nice. Don't be embarrassing be nice, but she kept saying that and I was like, I'm kind of into this. I'm into it like it's like she sasses him and shuts him up. She she's like talks a bunch of shit to him. And then she has loved you off and turns around and smiles and I was like, I'm obsessed. It's like they've done the impossible of making me on the impossible making me okay with perfect, and fresh with incest adjacent marriage. Yeah just became fully okay with me. Well, okay, so Robert kind of gets and he's like, how do you feel about all the like dog? Fuckr things and he's like, I don't he's like I don't like anyone coming from my wife. But also he's like here's the deal. I married marries grandmother when I was twenty-two. I came in like as a so like I'm not Mary's, you know, I'm not like a grandfather. So he was like he was like a kid kind of when he was became Mary's grandfather. So awful Tik-Tok teen I'm not. Yeah. I'm not like I'm not excusing there still are cult leaders, but I mean they're up to some wild shit some wild berry shape. But like it makes more sense knowing that it's not life was like married her like 60 plus year old grandfather like she he was like A young guy when I don't know I think he was like forty or something didn't she say it was like forty they were like the same as Justin and Whitney at 8 or. And they've been married for twenty-two years. So like they're clearly making it work. They have a good thing going with each other. He listens to her and then he also says that she is his equal in the church and Beyond and then he gives the performance of a lifetime just like being home with emotion and like crying and it made me wish that my grandma had been fucking some home dude and then died and betrothed him to me. Was like maybe they've actually cracked the code on Love and Marriage. Dark rooms medications and shutting out the world while missing out on life's most precious moments. This is life for most of the cast of Vanderpump Rules and for migraine sufferers. 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He's he disappeared and she hasn't seen him in like a really long time and he doesn't answer her texts. So and and he was like just did something happened was her fight and she was like, no, we we just he just took off and so she has no idea where her dad is home, which is really sad sad chills for Diane because she clearly has like a lot of demons and now she's on the lam and it's it's just nice to know. Where addiction can take someone even in like a relapse? Like it's just there's new new lows and new heights of bad shit. And I I really hope that he is found soon or that he's taken care of and Cuz you know or that he really gets struck with a desire to really change like that that yes, and it becomes like the ultimate priority and that is like truly something. You can't like. Can only happen within a person like you can't will it to happen like you can't pray like you can't pray it to happen. Like it just either will or it won't and it's such a hard place. I felt her Whitney in that moment. That's gotta be tough. Yeah, and I I wish him the gift of dog aggression and I hope that he runs with it if he gets a and yeah, I want Diane to hit rock bucking bottom and then rise up like a phoenix From the Ashes start a hair salon off and then write like a tell-all book about her wild fucking life. Yeah. I just it's sad like also, he's on truly bounce back pain killers like that can sometimes lead into like heroin like that's just you know, I really hope that her dad gets help. Yeah, it ain't good. He and he broaches Meredith about Seth off or wait the oh Andy asks if Diane's hair is real or if it's oh right, right right in a wig and Mary laughed it gets married and she goes off. And then we find out the Diane's hair is all all real. I know but the head of hair like that. You've got to get your shit together and shine a star. That's a star error. It is Star Hair. He's been gifted with us. Yeah, not all I'm sure as hell am not. I I would give an arm for Diane Warren's mop I would. Come on, Diane. You can we know that you can pull through that paint brush hair. You can do it baby. Come on. Come on Diane. We root for you. I'll never give up. Hope me neither. So India South America about like their deal and Meredith goes he was what's the state of your marriage right now and she goes, why would I talk about my marriage with these people? Power move. I was like, okay mean you're only on a reality show but I love it. Yeah, Seth kind of takes the whole blame for why their marriage fell apart. Mhm. That was cool. Cuz and he's like Meredith you you dated other people South did you ever do that? You kind of goes, I mean not really like I never got over Meredith and I was like, wow, I was like work who could yeah Meredith really stunningly gorgeous man. It's just sitting there like hm. But yet not saying anything and very cagey. Cuz the first time Andy asked her he was like how's your marriage and she was like, you know, it's fantastic wife. She's worried and he's going to ask who the guy was like, she's I think she's probably very nervous about like getting that question. So she's been like very love her just a big refusing to play ball on a show that requires you to delve into your personal life in great detail. I reserve my right to not speak until an attorney present. I'll be pleading the fifth amendment. I will be pleading the Fifth Amendment on this as well and I'll be disengaging from the conversation. That's Meredith took like a police interrogation. I will be disengaging from this conversation. No one tells me who I can and can't be friends with and I am now disengaging from the conversation. I was like is Meredith going to be on the next season of the show? It seems like she does not want to be on the show. She's going to be on a I know that for a fact really. I know God. I want her to be honest filming filming right now, sexy. We I yearn for her outfits. I even yearn for the young demon also that is inhabiting her Utah bowed terrorizing both Brooks and Teddy one point and egos. A lot of people wanted to know if you if Meredith Seth of you felt like Meredith turned Brooks against you cuz it seemed like you guys had kind of a patchy relationship which is kind of a fucked-up question and and Brooks or South Coast to know Brooks marks is to love Brooks marks wage, and I was like and then I immediately started writing a play called. A Father's Love. Yeah, that literally is like a healing statement for all of us to hear. I think everyone kind of swoons even like at that wage and all the women. Yeah, and even I was like, wow, I just don't know Brooks well enough to love him, but I hope to I hope that point becomes on the Pod Page Brooks. If you're listening come on the Pod forgive forgive me. We've apologized we have then Lisa starts crying about Meredith and stuff cuz she's obsessed with them and obsessed with them being married and it was stressing her out but they were having so many marital issues and then Heather makes like shoots and lot like she goes into the stratosphere with reaching on this one and she starts going well. How come you can get emotional about Meredith and Seth but you don't care about my divorce. Shut up Heather cuz they're not literally not what you fucking said. It's also they're not their machine Meredith are really close friends. She's not close with you. So it's like that's why she's she's more invested their marriage than your fucking marriage that but she doesn't know anything about. Yeah. Also, she never said that divorce wasn't a big deal. She just said that she her at her husband off once divorce and her family was divorced. Yeah, just because you're divorced doesn't mean you're automatically kicked out of the Mormon church. She was not ever talking about divorce being a big deal or not. There's this weird. I was like, that's not what's your name? Sorry Heather's dead to me. Honestly, she needs to earn my fucking trust back because I've had it with her not dead to me, but I'm just like very dubious of her and I'm just like wait Heather. Why are you sure? It's not about you? No, I've had it broke. Yo, stop it. Stop it. I want you to go March. I hope that in the background of this set which keep getting better and better to me. There is like a gingerbread desk cabin behind like on the right hand kind of corner that I was admiring and just loving a shout out to the set designers once again, but I would love for you to fling open the door to that gingerbread house March over to her Heritage with Heather Heather grabbed her by the shoulders of do you consent to me grabbing her by the shoulders right now and she'll go sure and I'll go stop it stop it. Stop it. Stop making this about you. Be better we I was rooting for you. And then walk back into the ginger and then like set myself on fire and the gingerbread pour yourself a cup of hot cocoa and then set yourself a flame. but yeah, she's trying to she keeps trying to frame Lisa is this villain and it just is not working and honestly, if you're watching this reunion and you stand with Heather I'm going to need you to go look at yourself in the mirror and be really brutally honest with yourself about what your actual problems are agreed month. So husband's go away. They go back to husband land. Well right before they have a like a little moment. All right, Jen apologizes to Robert senior. and Robert senior graciously accepted her apology and I truly believe it's water under the bridge with he and Mary like oh, yeah, I'm like they are from they're all friends now and like next season will see them all hanging together and I can't fucking wait Sharif in Robert really Bond and they're like, I really respect you and then and he's like I see a double date in the future and they just start laughing and smiling and I'm like I do I'm Robert was very sweet with Jen he was and like God love him. I love the Cosby family. Yeah, they really killed it. They turned they did The Impossible. Yep, they're heroes in my eyes. then we got to kind of Jen's the drama Jen cause and or like a drama swirling around her and it gets to Meredith again is like Jen was speaking with my family life and she goes John. Can I ask you a yes or no simple question and Jen's like sure she goes if I treated you the way that you treated me, I would you call me a loyal friend and then Jen looks at her and you guys know. So she owns up to it. Yeah and America's. Thank you. Thank you. Reliving Jen's Hulk moments. I just realized once again how truly iconic she is. Oh my God. She Oak. She-Hulk cream is a legend. In both her own right and the destruction she's caused in the world and the universe. Yeah, we're still rebuilding. We're still we have still suffered Intergalactic War years, but I've left this planet a shell of its former self due to Jen She-Hulk, but I respect a I she had to do what she had to do. We find out we do take out that Jen said some pretty gnarly shut about how there though. Heather that is like really pissed a gen because apparently Judson that Heather quote buys off the racket dressbarn that she quote thinks she's an actress and that quote the only role she'd be cast in is a manatee or Shrek like really mean I was when I tell them I was crying out loud. It's like I guess she did this on social media like in in like Twitter replies or something. Did she do it on social media? It seems that she was doing this like pre Heather confronting or oh in the bathtub, so maybe that's why Heather was so good so hurt by her. I mean, I would that's that makes me that was that was really mean that's really me. I don't know if I found if you had said that about me and then I found out about I'd be extremely hurt. Yeah, you do like that's just that's just like not that's like cruel. It's like otherworldly cruel ship to say about your friend. About this woman who's supposed to be your best friend. That's like the like only role they're going to be casted isn't either a manatee or Shrek and then just kind of goes off. There's no she doesn't like deny it and Mary's like wow. and at one point Andy asked all the women, he's he's talking about back at the the Wynonna Judd. The Wynonna Judd Connie Britton psychic and not moment when Gemma the only person that raised her hand when she said this does anyone here who here doesn't trust Heather engine and Andy turns to Mary and he goes Mary. What do you think about that? And then marry with her eyes closed and she wakes up Suddenly and she goes huh? And he's like, what do you what do you think about the he was like a teacher busting someone he's like, what do you think about the exactly what he was doing to you just to sleep and she has no no and I know I remember and he goes it's happened a few times this this reunion. Mary was just fully sleeping. I love it. So if I were married, I would sleep too because honestly, I'm sick of Heather's complaining and her drama is boring to me and I would quietly not off myself crazy. Like I loved it also she wakes up and then looks it handy and she kind of like tries to like she's like grasping the air kind of like trying to buy Herself just a moment before she answers and I was like, I have fully been this. Yeah, like just getting getting your bearings like if you're ever in like a lecture or something or like took a class and like the teacher knows you weren't paying in like you're just like you just give always give yourself a moment. God was telling her. I can't I can't remember. I love I love I can't remember. It's also a power respond to falling asleep. You neither have to own it. Nor do you have do you simply cannot remember that was also her reaching out to the Lord the Lord told her what was being said? She was I did hear the question that you asked me goes. Okay, what was it and she goes? Well, this is my reaction to Heather Jen raising her hand and saying she doesn't trust Heather. She's like, I think she just did it to dig Heather. Perfect answer. He goes. Wow, and she goes It is literally Mary's world and we are all just lucky to be we are at the same time as her. She's a National Treasure put her in Fort Knox on it. All contacts are all costs. She posted an Instagram video of her in like Venice trying to get a photo op on like one of the bridges over the canals or whatever and whoever was taking the photo Meri has like a Chanel little fanny pack on and she's like posing and this like tourist lady like kind of walks into the frame and then marries like oh, And like collapse her out of the out of the frame. I love a I love her cuz that time for Taurus cuz I don't remember. I don't remember that I do that answer for everything. Then this is then it becomes Things become like kind of complicated and Jen. Brings up a very valid point that there is like an obvious, you know stereotyped rope on especially in reality T of like a woman of color getting aggressive and that's a very racist rope that's been fought against and people are still fighting it and Jen was kind of bring up the point like Whitney and Heather. Talking about how aggressive she is. All the time is She felt like that was sort of playing into that trap of like the what the innocent white women being like this woman of you know what I mean? Yeah, and also like the fact that they were off like specifically when they were in Vegas and that Connie Britton charlatan was like trying to get them all to talk out their issues and Jen felt like she was kind of coming from birth or telling her to be quiet and like ganging up on her and that was like triggered a lot of PTSD for her cuz she's probably been in multiple situations like that in the past even as a kid child wage and that I didn't even think about that like in the time that it was happening but then hearing her kind of explain it like it did resonate a lot like that would be theft up to be in that situation. Yeah, the only person of color in that group Yeah, and I think I think she's you know, I think Jen has in that group who was in Vegas. I think John has a lot of like volatile like just separate of everything. I think she does have I mean hitting someone took over. She has a lot of rage issues. She has rage issues and I think those are yeah that are maybe not but I do think she has valid points about especially Heather and Whitney totally off like playing that card Whitney's like gem threatened my life and it's like she didn't fucking threaten your life. Gen. I don't like Jenna threat against my life. Can she can Hulk out with the best of them but I never ever would believe that Jen is going to kill someone or that like your life is in danger know because of Jenny Shaw Inc. Has just out of the realm of possibility when he was playing like the whole like who me kind of thing and she was totally doing that like threatened my life threatened my life and then leave off. One point goes. Oh, she was just saying that she goes I say, I'm going to slit my wrists all the time. Truly a queen after my own heart just says it like kind of off to the side. Yeah, just kind of matters it like offering back up but not trying to make it about her and I was like, thank you fucking thousand voice of reason and that's like argument. I'm sorry, but like if like any normal person would know that Jen's just saying it's just it's true. He's being like funny. Yeah. If someone told me the only reason you're not dead behind your apartment right now is because of this I would laugh I would not be like you throughout my life and now I will have to tell Heather that my life has been threatened. You did threaten me Jen you did you did threaten to drown me in a lake. She literally didn't she was just being very emphatic. Yeah, and then Mary I don't think she meant mm. I know she didn't mean to say this but it was truly the biggest dig of all and I was team married for life. You should need to say I know she goes I think Whitney and Heather just embedded with privilege and I was like not only did you say they're like, it's a dig that works on like four different levels and she basically called them in Brad, which I honestly thought I stand with her and I think they are very inbred. Yes. She's she kind of says like it's my opinion, you know. Here is a black woman saying this that she she feels these, you know, she's the one black woman in the cast and she's saying I feel Whitney and Heather a particularly give off a vibe that they're Superior because of their white privilege and then they're very like, you know, I understand there's white privilege has been a conversation about the heck. I'm learning. I'm listening, you know in all then then it's just like they kind of like especially Whitney. She's completely like unfazed. She's like, I'm know you're she's kind of like you're wrong. Yeah in this moment. It just got it. Got so heated and I understood I guess why both parties were angry, but because I guess like then Whitney and Heather mad that Jen is locked on social media calling them racist but Jen is basically saying like this is how I feel in the situation and this is why it's a problem and they really need in this moment. Just like listen to Jen and not attack her the gendarmerie say, yeah, like let them say what they need to say and then talk about it normally like not cry. It's like you don't have to like protest like no one thinks that you're like a fucking Clan member like chill out. She's just expressing an experience that when she says yeah that this is and it's a true. It's a true. It's like a fact and they do acknowledge it to some degree, but they're very kind of missive though. Yeah. And then Jen gonna gets upset and she leaves to go to Sharif and you just see Whitney just calls Justin on the phone and she's like slouching her seat and she goes she goes off his hair. You still hear the racist accusation just came up. So like I was like, okay, so you were expecting this. Yeah. It's like at some like you were fully ready offered for this. So like I don't know maybe just listen if you're already worried, you know what I mean? I don't know. This is weird. It's a weird it took a weird turn and then obviously like Cody Shaw slays again. And he and Jen have like a grounding moment and got a he's amazing. He truly loves engine comes back and everyone is like a little bit. They Don't Really Circle back to the conversation But it kind of just ends with you know, the wrap-up of everyone's you know, what's going on. Did everyone would it everyone feel like what did they Andy poses the question? What did you learn by about yourselves by being on the season and everyone says something even Whitney's like I need I need to the way I say things needs to be more careful and I need to work on my timing timing is very important. Why am I speaking? Like, I'm Irish. I don't know. I can't even nail Whitney is like whole shtick because Jim's not channeling today then again some Meredith and she just goes basically says you all need to apologize to me, but I forgive all of you for what you've done to me, and she ends with Dane trust needs to be earned. And then sits back and I was like the queen his fucking spell she has and they just bring out a bunch of meatballs for everyone to eat which I was like that's disgusting but also grew delicious. I just am wondering like how like how fresh are they? Have they been sitting under a heater for a long time there? It's New York. 7-Eleven hot dog price is there they film this in New York and then they start snowing on the set. Like fake snow comes down and they're all like wow, I love and he's like Jenn sincere the CEO of fun. Like why don't you come up with a meatball cheers and Jen says like a cheers and then Lisa goes to meeting in the middle. I was like, that's really smart. Yeah. And then it starts snowing and at one point married tastes it and she goes that's not real snow. I don't think that's no. I said give them a war give the day went all out on this set. And I need recognition. That was an amazing moment. I don't think this is real I would listen I would taste it off the Grove snow. I'll bet I think it's that like it's like so particles. They like how we go. I've done that the Grove and its chemical. Living your chemtrail truth. Okay. Who do you think like let's do you like house SLC Housewives zodiac and like what is your sign? I think you're a bit of a Meredith. I'm like a Meredith with a generalizing. Okay, I got I can be reactive and reactionary and get angry. And get heated up, but I'm also like Meredith. I'm very like I'm a little guarded in some ways. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think. You're definitely a Lisa. I have a Lisa maybe at the Meredith Rising. Hm. I see both of those out. Talk about oh, I'm probably probably fucking Whitney at the end of the day. No, you're not. I am a Whitney a little bit of like getting sometimes I put my foot in my mouth or like sometimes I get into situations wage. I'm actually not a winning all you're not a Whitney at all, maybe a little bit of a Heather in your chart. Yeah. I was going to say I think actually we're have a little Heather in are probably more Heather than Meredith and I'm I'm probably a Heather Jen No, Chelsea Meredith. All right, please I'm happy to take a mirror. Yeah, but I I see what you mean about Heather like I think I have a little Heather in there too. I think a three dots in some degree. Yeah, but probably like a Lisa. Maybe like a lease out with a Heather Rising about in porch galles season though. I mean, I'm excited now for the show to come back and I ride and walk into the sunset where I then died for the show. Me too. I'm I'm ready did a we did a great we followed we followed our guts and we got to get rewarded came on came through rewarded ultimately. Yeah. I'm on came through and showered Us in and gifts at the end because of our patients and we were honest we didn't pretend to be like in June and we got rewarded because it ended up being great. So I'm ready for season 2 I'm ready for a post covid-19. I do miss it in my life. You did threaten my life. Yeah, I can't wait to see where next season takes us. I look forward to seeing Lisa entrepreneur above and beyond the Call of Duty. And you know until next time guys we're going to we're thinking of a new series to do so hang tight while we figure it out, but there will be another recap come back soon. Yeah, there will be more. and In the meantime follow carry you carry? Oh, oh Lars Lars Marie and shout out to Jonathan cornman editor-at-large. Thank you Jonathan. Thank you Jonathan. 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Hennig Brand and the Discovery of Phosphorus

Stuff You Missed in History Class

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Hennig Brand and the Discovery of Phosphorus

"He was near as Robert Evans. He the host of the podcast behind the bastards his launching a new show called it could happen here. Every season. He's going gonna take a premise. That's more commonly seen in fiction and explain how it could be closer than you might think to coming true in. It could happen here Robert is going to make indepth research statistics and his own experience. And in this season. He's going to draw on that experience. Reporting multiple civil wars around the world to look at the idea of a second American civil war. Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to stuff you missed in history. Class a production of I heart radio. How stuff works? Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy Wilson. I'm calling fry every year. There's a thing in Cambridge Massachusetts called Botha's. It's held another places too. But the wedding Cambridge MIT campus is the one that I go to it's the festival of bad ad hoc hypotheses, it's a place where people present their scientific papers, except the scientific papers are fake and also funny and very where well argued and sometimes really plausible on top of being so hilarious. So like, for example, last time, the winning talk was all about the role of noise in the spread of bubonic plague in the fourteenth century, and it was a company by a whole lot of pictures from luminated manuscripts. And I don't wanna get into more detail than that. Because they put videos of all these things online, and I want anybody who goes to watch it to see all the hilarious reveals firsthand. It is often a very cool blending of science and history and fakery and. Hilarity altogether. And the reason I'm talking about this is that the winners of this. Very silly nerdy thing used to get a three D printed representation of Darwin looking doubtful. But now they get a trophy of Hennig brand discovering phosphorus heading brand discovered phosphorus by boiling p. So the first time I heard about this at office. I was like we gotta do a podcast on that. It has taken me a few years to actually get to it in case. It was not clear. This episode is going to have a lot of you're in it. I I love PJ. They're very funny to me because I'm crass a one of my cousins has a daughter was just at the age to be having sleepovers, and and at the age where mentioning of any bodily function is just instantly hilarious. And I like remember as a kid if somebody was like PB, it would just send everyone into giggles forever. Yeah. It was very different as a child. You know, I I was raised with a lot of shame about your body and anything that might do or. Bill I became a little bit older out in the world where I was like guys urine is really funny child. If you said something about P sleepover, there would be mortification and like oh. Do the very different culture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Little Victorian at my house in that regard. It's the matter in hand Bosphorus is a chemical element. And if you need a quick chemistry. Refresher elements are a basic building. Block of matter elements are made of atoms and atoms are made of subatomic particles. But you cannot take those subatomic particles out of an atom by ordinary. Chemical means appear piece of an element phosphorus is made of phosphorus atoms and one atom of phosphorus is the smallest piece of phosphorus that you can get. Yeah. I'll take one phosphorus, please. When I wrote that I made it almost sound like all elements are made of phosphorus that's not it's all elements are made of atoms of that type of element. And so several chemical elements were known to the ancient world, you'll see slightly different list, depending on where you look, but in general humans have known about gold silver. Copper iron lead. Ten zinc, arsenic, antimony. Mercury self and carbon for thousands of years pretty much any ancient culture that has written records names, at least some of these in those records these elements have all been known about for so long that we could not really say who discovered them or who I concluded that there was anything special about them phosphorus on the other hand is the first element whose discoverer we can name, and that was Hennig brand in about sixteen sixty nine, but I'm like most of the other elements. We just listed phosphorus doesn't exist in its pure elemental form out in the natural world. It's extremely reactive. So instead it's founded phosphate compounds. Those compounds are used to produce elemental phosphorus, which is called white or yellow phosphorus white phosphorus can then be used to make more stable Allah troops, including red and black phosphorus. In casual use words, phosphorus and phosphates are used almost interchangeably sort of like how people say carbon to carbon dioxide fuss base are fundamentally necessary to life on earth. They're part of the structure of DNA, and are in a they're also a component and denizen triphosphate or ATP, which carries energy within all living cells calcium phosphate helps provide the strength in our bones and teeth. So I mean, it's just not an exaggeration to say that we would be dead without phosphorus are very squishy. People. Have also been intentionally using phosphorus for thousands of years before Bram discovered it without knowing the that was what they were doing in. Parts of the world, the soil doesn't contain a lot of phosphorus and even in places where the soil starts out phosphate. Rich it loses its phosphates and other nutrients overtime through farming for as long as people have deliberately cultivated crops. They've also understood that there was something about the soil that needed to be replenished in order for crops to continue to thrive there. A lot of the strategies people have used to try to make their crops grow better have really been having fostering along with the other essential nutrients of nitrogen and potassium back into the soil. As examples the practice of burning off, the stubble of last year's crop doesn't just clear the land for new planting the ash also contains phosphorus, which goes back into the soil. People have also fertilized their crops with things like manure urine, fish and alster shells, all of which contain phosphorus and other nutrients crop rotation. Takes advantage of the differences in how different plants used nitrogen, potassium and phosphorus. To try to keep all three of those readily available in the soil people did things like this for centuries without knowing what phosphorus was or the crops that they were growing needed it ancient peoples use phosphorus also wasn't limited to agriculture as one example for thousands of years people have used ill urine to clean things. A big reason for this is that urine contains your RIA, which decays into ammonia when it's left out for a long time. But you're in also contains a lot of phosphates and phosphates helped make other cleaning agents more efficient, please don't take this. As a any sort of household cleaning tip. When we were in San Francisco at the end of our tour last year, I went to the book binders museum, and the there I had a guided tour of the book binders museum in one of the things that I learned about is how in one element or one part of the book binding printing process there were these little Inc. Doctors that were sort of leather covered things that you adopt at the ink, and you would put that on the place that you're going to print, and if that dried out your apprentice had to go and clean them and start completely over. So part of the apprentice job was to keep that nice and moist and the tour guide said, you have any ideas of what they might have used a clean these things. And I was like I bet it's urine. Because that was the thing that I could think of it would, you know, in the early days of bookbinding would probably use to clean to doing something, and she's specified that it was. Stale urine. And that is the reason that we just said, so of course, when Hennig brand was alive. People did not know what phosphorus was or that. It was connected to all of this. And even after he made his discovery people didn't really understand what it was. He had found at the time. European scientists still understood the world in terms of not the chemical elements that we think about today, but the four elements of earth, air, fire and water. The field of alchemy was just starting to evolve into the field of chemistry when he lived and the definition of elements was just starting to evolve from those four elements into more like today's definition, and there's more about this shift from alchemy to chemistry in our most recent Saturday classic. But as it relates to Hennig brand, the sixteen sixties there were still a few alchemists searching for the fabled philosopher's stone, which was believed to turn base metals into gold and produce an elixir that could cure. Diseases and prolong life and brand was one of them. Hennig brands discovery of phosphorus came about because he thought the secret to the philosopher's stone might be found in urine. And we'll get to why he thought that on how he made his discovery after a sponsor rake. 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That's harrys dot com code four four four. Four enjoy. We do not know all that much about Hennig brand as a person sometimes his name is spelled heading instead of Hennig sometimes his last name is B R A N T or B R and D T instead of Biard. A and d he was probably born in Hamburg, and what's now Germany sometime around sixteen thirty he seems to have spent some time as a low level army officer during the thirty years war, and that's just that he was from a middle class family because he was an officer. So probably they were not very poor. But also he was not a very high rank. So they probably weren't all that prominent either. In addition to his army service brand seems to have done at least part of an apprenticeship with a glass blower before turning his attention to alchemy. This would have given him the skills to make some of the glass vessels used in alchemy and a glass blowers. Furnace would have been useful to his L chemical pursuits as well at some point in all of this. He married a woman whose dowry was large enough. To fund his research after brands first wife died, he remarried woman named Margarita who had also been married before. Her son became brands assistant in his workshop, and her family's money continued to pay for all of his experiments. He may have also presented himself as a physician, although according to a nineteenth century history of chemistry. He was quote, an uncouth physician who knew not a word of Latin as we said before the break brand was looking for the philosopher's stone, which was believed to turn base metals into gold and produce the elixir of life, many alchemists believed that the key to the philosopher's stone was somewhere in human bodily fluids, and the fluid the brand focused on was p not only is your in a bodily fluid, but it is also yellow gold to be clear. Brad was not the only person who thought that. Maybe you're in had something to do with gold. You're in was pretty mysterious at the time. Nobody knew how the body produced it or why? It was yellow, but they did know that it did all kinds of fascinating, and seemingly magical things we talked about. It's used as a cleaning agent before the break. But it was also used in tanning leather and dyeing fabric and all kinds of chemical recipes urine was also used in some methods of making salt, Peter, and then the salt Peter was used to make gunpowder so part of gunpowder was for Muren with all of those things going on. It wasn't really that much of a stretch for people to suspect this strange potent seemingly slightly magical liquid might be yellow because it contained gold today though. We know that the yellow color mostly comes from a substance called, you're bilan, which is one of the end products of the body's breaking down the iron containing molecule hime brands experiments with urine involved boiling it over and over in a vessel called a retort retort is a spherical vessel with a long downward pointing spout. If you heat up something in a row. Tort the vapor rises then condenses in that long spout. So you can use it to distill things one day as brand was distilling urine and his retort the fluid dripping out of the spout started spontaneously bursting into flame, and it also smelled very strongly of garlic, and he found if he caught it in a vessel. And then stoppard the vessel up. It would glow regardless of whether it had been exposed to any light. I'm sorry to laugh Bram funny, though. My fiery garlic glow p. Thing is very funny brand thought that he was onto something perhaps, even the philosopher stone. So he kept refining his process producing this whitish waxy substance. That was very volatile if exposed to air and it had a bluish glow. If it was kept away from air. Here is his recipe for making phosphorus as published in philosophical experiments and observations of the late imminent, Dr Robert hook which was published in London in seventeen twenty six since this was almost sixty years after brands discovery and recorded by a different person, it is likely that various steps have been changed or added. But this definitely will give you a sense of what always involved in this. So under the heading phosphorus elementaries by Dr Brandt of Hamburg, it reads, quote, take a quantity of urine, not less for one experiment than fifty or sixty pails full. Let it lie steeping in one or more tubs or and hogs. Head of oaken would till it putrefied and breed worms as it will do in fourteen or fifteen days, then in a large kettle, let some of boil on a strong fire, and as it consumes evaporates, pour in more. And so on till at last the whole quantity be reduced to paste or rather a hard coal or crest, which it will resemble, and this may be done in two or three days if the fire well-tended, but else it may be doing a fortnight or more. So for one batch of phosphorus brand was leaving your in out in pails for about two weeks. And then boiling it for between two and fourteen days. And that is not the end of the process from there, you powder, the previously made coal or crust, and quote and their to some fair water about fifteen fingers high or four times as high as the powder and boil them together for one quarter of an hour, then strain the liquor all through a. Woollen cloth that which sticks behind maybe thrown away. But the liquor that passes must be taken in boiled till it come to assault, which will be in a few hours. The threat -ssipi continues on with adding more ingredients and steeping them together until the substance became sort of a Pap which left behind a red or reddish salt after being evaporated and sand. And then that went into a retort and quote for the first hour began with a small fire more than next agreater, the third and more the fourth and then continue it as high as you can for twenty four hours sometimes by the force of fire twelve hours proves enough for when you free the recipient white and shining with the fire, and there are no more flashes. Or as it were blasts of wind coming from time to time from the retort, then the work is finished, and you may with a feather gather the fire together or scrape it off with a knife where it sticks. This recipe goes on to stress the need to preserve this fire in an air. Tight container. And how if you put it in the sun? It might quote, kindle gunpowder. I think that might just mean explode. This this recipe also contains a cautionary tale, quote, my author says he had once wrapped a knob in wax at Hanover and it being in his pocket and he busy near the fire. The very heat of it. Let inflame and burned all his clothes and his fingers. Also for though, he rubbed them in the dirt. Nothing would quench it unless he had water he was ill for fifteen days and the skin came off to don't do that. We should note that it's possible that parasol says used a similar process to produce phosphorus in the sixteenth century more than one hundred years before brands discovery he wrote about a process for repeatedly distilling, you're in which would cause what he described as the earth air and water to rise while the fire fell out of it after doing this several times he said there would be quote, congealed certain icicles, which are the element of fire. That sounds close enough to what brand was doing that these icicles could have been phosphorus, but we also really don't know it just merits mentioning as a potential comparative parasail has been on my episode list for a very long time long enough that I was getting ready to do it. And then Saab owns did it, and I didn't wanna feel like I was copying saw bones. Even though not everybody listens to both shows. But now it's been long enough. Maybe he will keep farther up the list. There are also other accounts that descr. Brand's process a little differently than that recipe that we just went through and in one of them the salts that are produced after the first round of distilling the urine are discarded that is actually where most of the phosphorus would've been at that point in the process. So if brand was doing it that way he would have been throwing away. Most of what he was trying to get regardless them. This was a long involved complicated. Frankly, gross process, a seventeen sixty seven dictionary of chemistry described it as more curious than useful along with being quote, both costly and embarrassing. But brand was very fond of his costly, embarrassing discovery. He named it cold fire or sometimes my fire. It's not clear who was the first person to call it phosphorus, which is from Latin words that mean bringer of light or light bringer that same term has also been used to describe a variety of other glowing substances brand kept his discovery secret for about. Six years, and we'll get to what happened when knowledge spread about it after we I have a little sponsor break. Hello. It's been an Emery from WBU ours podcast, endless thread. Oh, you don't know us totally fair. We don't technically know yet either. But we do know you have excellent taste in podcasts. Humble suggestion continue your winning streak and add endless thread to your podcast rotation. It's hosted by yours truly and each episode dives into the vast ecosystem of online communities called read. It we tell stories that are ripping surprising funny. Sometimes all three like a sandwich made out of a firecracker a VO constrictor in a clown. Okay. Now who would eat a sandwich like that. I mean anyone after listening to our show. Okay, buddy. Subscribe to endless thread wherever you get your podcast or listen via the computer chip, we just secretly installed in your cranium. What nothing by? Headache? Brands discovery became public knowledge of murky series of events involving two other men named Johann concl- and Johann Daniel Kraft who like a lot of other people in the story worked in both chemistry and alchemy. It seems as though Kunkle had a piece of bologna stone. And this was a rock that was first described in sixteen o three by Vincenzo casserole. Oh, and this stone glowed in the dark Caskey are all know was a shoemaker then like so many other people he was hoping to find gold. He had collected a bunch of interesting rocks from the mountains near his home in bologna in. What is now Italy? And he discovered that if you baked them and then left him out in the sun. They would clue in the dark bologna stone became a curiosity and a source of fascination as people wondered whether there was something magical about it. And whether it might have something to do with the philosopher stone Galileo described it this way in sixteen twelve quote, it must be explained how it happens that the light is conceived into the stone. Known as given back after some time as in childbirth today, we know that bologna stone was in fact, barium sulfide, I love how so many elements of this story are like what if I bake some rocks. What if I'd still p over and over so Kunkle was intrigued not only by bologna stone, but also by all kinds of other luminescent substances. And so when he heard that somebody in Hamburg had created something that glowed indefinitely he got really excited, and he wrote a letter to craft about going to Hamburg to see what this was all about in some versions of the story conklin craft went together and Bram taught them both how to make phosphorus after craft paid him to do it. But in other versions of the story craft swooped in head of concl- and paid brand not only to show him how to make phosphorus, but also to keep that information from craft then not version of story craft had to work it out for himself, regardless of which of these is more accurate both cockle and craft. Did wind up knowing how to make phosphorus craft started traveling around Europe with phosphorus and other glowing substances, and he did experiments with them before nobles and dignitaries. This included the Friedrich Ville helm Duke elector of Brandenburg Prussia on April twenty fourth of sixteen seventy six and then a year later crafted the same at the court of Johann Friedrich Duke of Brunswick, Lunenburg and Hanover crafts, friend Gottfried. Ville home live knits was among other things. The dukes librarian and live suggested that maybe phosphorus could be used to light a whole room, but Kraft said production of that much of it would be just way too difficult, even so the Duke became intrigued with the idea of setting up a mass production facility out in the heart's mountains. Presumably, so the smell of it wouldn't bother people live knits negotiated with Bram to come to Hanover to work on the project, and he recruited a workforce and started stockpiling lots of firewood and barrels full of urine. It's hundred percent clear. We're all of this urine came from and these stories like there's one account that says that brand had a relationship with a tavern keeper or a brewer or some other person who would have a clientele that Pete a lot but little vague. Meanwhile, Gustav, Adolf the Duke of Mecklenburg goose Strahl also heard about phosphorus and decided that he also wanted to start a fos factory as well. And this deuce Representative. You'll hod wacky Becher started trying to recruit brand away from Hanover. It seems as though brand tried to use Bechers offer to negotiate for more money from Hanover. But he wasn't really savvy enough to do this. And instead he just came off as kind of cranky obstinate in the middle of all of this craft started writing to Hanover as well suggesting that he might actually be a better manager than brand for this whole phosphorus production project live knits persuaded the Duke to keep working with brand in it appears that during all of this brand did finally document his methods for making phosphorus. He apparently ran a mass production facility out in the mountains. Roof few months then in the late sixteenth seventies. For us in the knowledge of how to make it reached England Robert Boyle who was one of the founders of modern chemistry heard about brands production of phosphorus from urine. And he independently worked out his own way to do the same thing about ten years later boil then works to establish a fos production facility in London as I became more available demand for its skyrocketed. It went from being a curiosity that people thought may or may not be the philosopher stone to something that had at least in theory, practical, uses you'll Hong Kong figured out how to cast phosphorous into mold underwater and wrote a treatise on the use of phosphorus in medicine called treatise of the phosphorus mirabilis, and it's wonderful shining pills. Soon phosphorus was being marketed as a cure all prepared in a variety of pills and oils in ligaments. It was recommended for alcoholism apoplexy, asthma cataracts, colour colic depression, epilepsy. Fever glaucoma gown impotence migraine. Paralysis scruffy, la- tennis two weeks into this. And that is only to name a few although phosphates have medical uses. Pure phosphorus does not treat any of these things, and is in fact, highly toxic and can be used as a poison Henning brand died around seventeen ten in about thirty years later on dre Sigismund Margraaff discovered phosphorus in edible seeds. He concluded that people were consuming phosphorus in their food, and then excreting it in their urine. And this was the first step in the scientific community's understanding phosphorus is a chemical element and of its movement through the world in the phosphorus cycle. This is a cycle that begins with phosphate, rich rock and moves through water and soil into plants and animals than back into the water and soil and then into sedimentary rock by the early nineteenth century phosphorus was seeing large scale industrial production. Thanks to the discovery that it could be extracted from bone asked most notably white phosphorus was used to make match. Which is something that we talked about in a prior episode on the London match girls. Strike white phosphorus was really dangerous though, it caused a serious medical condition known as Fossey jaw and in eighteen forty nine red phosphorus was introduced as a less dangerous substitute by eighteen fifty one phosphorus was seeing more practical uses including in manufactured fertilisers. This actually led to a supply and demand problem, which led people to look for new sources of foster is one of these was gonna guano itself is rich and phosphates nitrogen and potassium making it an excellent fertilizer. The sedimentary rocks that form in places with lots of guano are also rich and phosphates in this led to a land Graham for islands and caves with lots of guano in eighteen fifty six congress passed the guano islands act which allowed the United States to claim uninhabited islands to mine. The guano on them. They were uninhabited by people. They were inhabited by lots and lots of birds. Today. The vast majority of phosphorus is mined from rocks are rich in calcium phosphate and about ninety percent of that in mind phosphorus, but to one use and that is back to fertilizer phosphorus is still used for other applications as well, including plastics, fuel additives fireworks rat poison. And of course, it is still used to make matches. It used to be a lot of detergents because like we said earlier, it helps the tergence clean better. But too much fos fate and bodies of water leads to algae overgrowth. And so a lot of nations either banned or strictly limited the use of phosphates in detergent phosphorus is also used in weapons, including organo-phosphates, which are chemical weapons known as nerve gas as well as incendiary devices and smokescreens ironically Humber where phosphorus was discovered was hit with thousands of phosphorus containing incendiary bombs during operation good Maura in World War Two the use of phosphorus and weapons is pretty controversial. Today, but it's still is used phosphate rock is not a renewable resource. Even though the phosphate cycle does eventually put phosphates back into rocks. Takes a really long time and over the past few years. There has been some discussion about whether the world is running out of phosphorus phosphorus itself is not in very short supply. It's one of the most common elements on the planet. But there's not that much of it that can be mined without huge environmental damage like there's a lot of phosphorus everywhere. But only a very few places with phosphorus in a high enough concentration to be able to officially mine it, it's not totally clear. Exactly. How much of a little phosphate? There is in rocks. That can reasonably be mind or when we might reach peak phosphorus predictions run anywhere from decades to centuries because the vast majority of phosphorus is used as fertilizer for plants that directly or indirectly become food. This shortage has the potential to be a global catastrophe. And one of the proposed alternatives is urine recycling. All the way back to boiling some urine and. Awesome. Again. I'm glad I got this whole hint brand thing out of my system after like three years of saying, I should do a podcast on that guy. And his weird urine boiling. Do you have a little bit of listener mail that may or may not include bodily fluids? It doesn't include any any bodily fluids. It's from Heather Heather says, I'm delighted to add another topic to the list of places my podcast has intersected with missing history. It's one of the reasons I follow you loyally. This is in reference to the Sappho episode. And Heather says I wish you would noted with regard to Higginson translation of the Aphrodite e that like many male translators. He silently changed unambiguously female pronouns for melons in reference to the one who flees refuses gifts and fails to love Sappho, the program gave the impression that the association of Sappho with love between women is entirely a later invention with little basis in her own work. But in this the most complete poem, we have of her Aphrodite, he promises Sappho that her feet. Beloved will return her love Heather who is the podcast referenced earlier in the letter is the lesbian historic motif podcast. Thank you for this note. Heather I read a bone of translations of ode to Africa to try to get one for that episode that seemed accessible to people who didn't necessarily have a huge love of poetry or a lot of background knowledge to make the writing makes sense. And all of them translated it that way. So I was not aware that this the pronouns in that had been changed. But I did want to clarify since. I'm not sure how we gave that impression because some of the other work that we read in the episode was the opposite. What we talked more about was that the stigma against same. Sex relationships was really a later part of the response to her work. Not that that was something that wasn't in her work from the beginning. So just in case other people came away. From the episode with the impression that there was no like attraction or affection between women and Sappho work. Like, I would not describe it that way at all. I think the other poem that we read that was a lengthier chunk was an example of that. So thank you again, Heather for that note, if you would like to write to us about this or any other podcast history podcasts at how stuff works dot com. And then we're all over social media at missed in history. 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Episode 102: Sorry, We Suck

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Episode 102: Sorry, We Suck

"Okay there now. We are I maybe just my light here. Yeah, just the hot. There we go. Now there's no glare. Hey everyone dark now, it's really dark but we like it dark. Yeah, we're good at dark dark lovers dark dark side lovers. Yes. Definitely Dark Side lovers. Well Heather is well for sure. Yeah. God dammit patrones back. You would think he'd stay with him know we're the ones that give him the food. We gave him two plates to lick tonight and he was super happy about it. Now. He's just going to circle our feet until we put another plate down but there's no plates off could give him some wine. I don't know we've tried that before he doesn't look at oh damn, it's not he's not into it. They don't they make wine for dogs. They do it and cats. We should do that off the cat wine called it would had a like a funny name. It was like, oh, yeah instead of merlot. It was like me out or something then I can't even remember birth. Heather's going to look it up while she's looking at up. I want everyone to know that I am Jacobi and I guess I'm Heather. I'll go with that one. Okay, and together we make a jake you're listening to each other's random stuff on the second third week of October. How many weeks are we in to 2 and 1/2? It's the 15th. So yeah, we're two weeks and two weeks in two weeks in about two weeks and a day into October. So we're full into the Falls cat o moscato. Moscato, very nice. Yes, that's what it was. Okay, we have our house decorated for Halloween and we I bought like six packs of Halloween candy like four weeks ago, and it's almost gone. It's not for the trick-or-treaters. It's just for us to to munch on now. Let me ask you this. So for the trick-or-treaters, do you buy the same quality handy for them or you buy a log? Perversion know I buy the same you do. I Do by the same I upgrade for my trick-or-treaters. Oh, really? Yeah, they get full size at my house. Oh nice I buy from Costco every year. Yep. Yep, four or five dollars off this year. They didn't offer it on both though most time. It's both Mars and Hershey, this year's just Hershey. Oh really? So I'll be buying a Hershey one and that's they'll get a full of candy. I usually put it on a really nice tray like a platter and I display it like a candy store. So they all they're all together like she's gonna come to your house, but you never make it right now plus after work this I mean, so I'm going to well, I think I'm only getting one trick-or-treater multiple times. Okay? Yeah, so she's going to get wage. I'm by the end. It's their last report real asked to pay no. Well. No, it's the same maybe making it her friends will drive out there, but she's having all her guy friends come and watch scary movies here. So o r e I friends no girlfriend. No, not all the guys are coming over to watch scary movies. So yeah, I know. Americans going to be Wednesday. We're going to be Wednesday Addams. Yeah, hopefully if her little dress gets here that's sitting at the warehouse say not in movies and email and lost in the mails at the fucking Warehouse. Somebody thanks. Keep getting lost in the mail. There's just too many too much mail right now. Well, it's easy. You just you can't say is lost in the mail. If it doesn't make get to the mail yours didn't the one thing I ordered from work made it to the mail last. Well, that's true and then a couple of states and then is sitting and it's been sitting in Colorado since July off and no one can find it. Like, how do you Just Lose It Like It's just gone and no one can find doing it. Eventually. Somebody would find it somewhere stuff to no honor because someone took it what are they going to do? They can't do anything with it. Didn't know that when they took the package. It's just it's dumb. They were probably hoping there was something good in there and they couldn't do It's true dumb post office. Do better. Come on post office. Are you ready for the ice breaker question always ready for an icebreaker? All right. Today's question is if you had a magic box. Yes that could bring back any inanimate object that you've lost in your life. What would you bring back? Something that you've lost that you would like to have back. I wonder how big the box is. So my problem is I have such a great memory. I don't lose stuff. Often or maybe someone took it something that was taken. Okay, I got it. Okay. So when I first met thought he had just had he was very impressed with all my music or how young I was and being a Linden girl. I had some pretty raunchy music. Uh-huh. I was pretty heavy metal and hard rock and a little bit of rap. I was so not your Britney Spears and Christy Christina Aguilera. Whatever has Backstreet Boys, I wasn't I wasn't those types. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Fuji's and Linkin Park and yeah, I was that kind of girl. Oh and he was so impressed that I had Sublime. Okay. Yeah, so he was like, oh my God, you had like the best music. Can I borrow your Four CDs. I'm like, okay, so I gave him the the one I might visor CDs that were flying. Yeah and borrow the whole thing cuz those are my best CDs. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I'll go ahead so he borrowed them. He left him in his brothers car cuz they were riding together together in the car. Yeah right around and then someone broke into his car and stole all the music including my sixties. Oh, no, I'd want I want my CDs back. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that, I don't lose shit. I have all my stuff. I don't keep count lose my crap and I don't lose track of it. I know I have the memory of like a way better than any computer in my opinion. You do have a good memory. I really I can I can attest to that fact. Yes. What were you trying to think? I know one thing that still is makes me upset that I lost. Oh when Jeff and I were first together he birth Me a ring. Oh and it was a gold ring with an amethyst what though? Because it's purple. I love purple so he bought me this ring and I was wearing it and it was a little bit too big and I'm like I need to get this sized. Right? Well, we went to the grocery store at the time. It was top food. So I remember yep. I know exactly wage and we walked in and I went cuz I always have displays like in the front when you walk in and I went to point at the display and they ring flew off of my finger when it flew off. I flew off of my finger into this chip display. Oh my God, and we were in that store for so long and we could not find the ring. We never found it and you probably told them about had at the time his brother still worked there and were like, can you please keep an eye out? We lost Kobe's ring it like is in the chip display off. Never found it. Never found it. I do I want that back. I'm so sorry. Yeah, it's just that's so that's way more important because you suck cuz I knew where exactly where I lost it and we couldn't find it anywhere. That's so frustrating. Yeah. I mean I could hear it hit the floor and bounced and then it was just gone. I bet it wasn't even the chip display. I bet ricocheted off. It probably did it probably like but we looked like all over that. You know, it couldn't have gone farther than we looked it. Just you don't know that what if it got some discs and what if it went like a hundred yards off like not even that big like a little fluky thing and just just yeah, they went under what if it's still in that deserted area of the Top Foods. That's a Hobby Lobby now, that's always that top food. Yeah. What if it's still in there underneath one of their little shelf eating I doubt I bet someone found it and was like, oh look at this awesome job. Ringing and it's I'm going to take it home. Yeah. Well that person has a major Bad Karma. Yes. They do. Yes, they do a ring. Yes. I re-found that they should have returned it. They should have put into the front of lost and found and I wanted that ring. I'm sorry. Yes. It was sad. Very sad. Was it a yellow gold ring? Yes, yellow gold or the list and it's 14-karat gold package of the amethyst on it. Go to know. Yeah, so, you know, somebody probably took it to a pawn shop or whatever whatever or they're still wearing it on their finger. Yeah. I had to resize off all of their finger anymore or they had pudgy fingers. So the perfectly yeah cuz for some reason I have skinny fingers. What do you mean some reason? You know, we both have tiny thing wrong cuz I think we're are you smaller than me? I think you might be smaller than me. So my ring finger my wedding ring finger is a 4 and 1/2. You might be a little smaller. I don't remember his mind's a 4 and 1/2 or 4 and 3/4. Okay. Mine's one of those it's under a five. Yeah, but then my right ring finger is 55 - 2 - so I know right look. Oh, oh, I just just a ruby. Okay good. Like we're going to lose fracking Heather's ring my ruby ring. Yes. That's a v that's a Vibe. Yes, this one. Okay. Let's see if we can not lose my wedding ring. Yeah, but let me see it. Let me take this one off and that that one I'm not sure on the size. It's either a 4 and 3/4 or it's a 4 and 1/2. I think it's a 4 and 3/4 because it's a little big it slides on em. Yeah see with mine. It won't because look look at it. Well, it's too big once I get over the knuckle but because of basketball. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I jammed almost every one of these nickels. That's why they all special looking and they're a little lumpy plump special little plump e z z see how they're pregnate it in the miss. This would be perfect a perfect topic for when we have our YouTube channel and you guys can see our fingers and how impregnated all my love how we keep passing it rings back and forth. Yes, and we have our poster will take a picture of the poster because it's It's fantastic. That'll be our backdrop. Fantastic our YouTube channel, which we will get up and going once we figure out how they do it for us that aren't that techno. Yeah, we're a little bit technologically challenged her brother is trying to so we need to get that figured out. So with we don't really have a topic for tonight wage, but I would like to talk about something that's bothering her dad's bothering me. It's a fairly new topic too. That's a new topic that I just found out but today is very depressed and it made me cry and so I would like to just talk about it for a minute until we move on. So, I just found out today that one of my co-workers at work daughter my work daughter has given her notice. She's going to be moving on to something else. And actually she was on our podcast. She has on a worth the snake penis one. Yes. So if you look up the episode snake penis wine, that is Ally and her boyfriend Michael. That's who we're talking about. And so I'm talking about so if you don't remember go back and listen to snake penis wine, I can't remember which number it was so recent fairly recent but Ally is going to be leaving my place of work and I'm very sad about it because I love her so much. I know you do and she makes my work place a nice place to be and she does and you don't get a lot of co-workers like that. And so I'm just kind of very sad. I know that she's going to be leaving in my Works changing a lot too. Yeah. And I'm trying to get Covina possibly apply at my orange. Yeah, I don't know she's so not sure. Yeah, it's not a full board know but we're more leaning towards no than yes. It's what I'm guessing at. Yeah, there's a lot of unknowns. So no, I don't do good with unknowns, but it did agree with me. He thinks you should at least do the interview em all think about it. Just see what they fucking say. I'll think about it. It's hard. It's hard to do it interview. Then you can go back to lessons like yeah. I had an interview. Mm. I guess what they offered me this and this and this do you want to lose Ally and me? Oh Heather, Heather Heather Heather. You're just going to be like my representative should you know, I wish I could just find a job like, you know thought like my agent right? I could be an intake movie people and sports people they don't they themselves they have an agent that does it for them and I I'd be a pretty cheap higher you would be my only need food and wine. Yeah, and I provide the wine. I just have to feed you follow would be so we've been drinking some really good wine Thursday night right. Now, of course on a longship Quinn, which is fantastic. It's a nice red blend. Nice. Nice. Nice started with a goose Ridge. Rozay. Yes, which Kobe got a Christmas present. I got an early Christmas present because Heather brought her Jose and I do not have Rosy glasses snow in the drives me fucking crazy. So I got a job. Early Christmas present my guts and Rosy glasses and they're so cute and they're so nice. They are they're fancy-looking. They make rose. They taste so good and glass is actually double down as Shack. Yeah, which I had no idea they did that. So since their champagne glasses would they also be the glass you would drink a mimosa out of you? Probably could okay, but you hate mimosas I do. I don't hate them. You just don't like them that much. I just I can't like drink you don't like the champagne cuz that makes your nose feel funky. Well, no, I can't drink champagne in the morning because then I get super sleepy and I have to have an app. That's why I don't you know, but they are good. They are very very good. I want to Hershey. Are you going to eat those Whoppers? No, I don't like the Whoppers off. Then Kobe makes me eat all three of them and I only want one we can't open the package and then not eat the whole thing and put it back but you don't do that. Yes, you can't do that, but no. Yes, you can't you can't know why can't you do that? If you live in a house or just yourself most of the time and just your husband once in a while, why would you open it up and only eat one? Cuz I only want one know we'll just take the rest home and eat them later in life. Someone else wants one later. No, no, once you open it, those are your Whoppers. Okay are my rules in my house are different. So if you decide at my house, you want open those pack of Skittles. You only want to eat one purple one you put the rest in the thing. I'm fine with it. What if I open up a Snickers bar? And I take one bite of it and then put it back. I'm fine with them. The people I allow in my house. I'll eat off of their stuff. Oh, damn. Okay, that's good to know what what if I reach into your bowl of candy and I pull out a half-eaten Snickers bar. Who do I who's eating the other half? How do I know more than likely just me or third but what if it's not wrong with it be I don't know no one else in the random person that came to your house. Oh random people look at the dogs. It's been here cognac. There's no way of ran the persons making what if it's your sister or one of her children? None of them would eat half of a can a kid now though. I didn't have what if they was the UPS guy? You don't know I guarantee you can't get in the house with those dogs. You should play the sound of cognac. I'm going to you explain this. Okay, so he's not dying make sure you know, well, so Heather has a ring the doorbell thing with the camera on it and it has a speaker like a microphone also and it automatically records if there's movement or anything at the front door and you can look at it on your phone. And so Heather has four dogs. Yes. So three of them will just like bark like a dog is supposed to do and they don't always bark and our gas gauge look or don't get up but 755 cognac is the time. Okay cognac makes this weird crying noise, like sounds like a human almost. It sounds like a child like crying or something or like way off or maybe it's like I don't know maybe like a ghost like whale it's like something but you know, it's coming from him. It's yeah and it's just like, okay, so I'm going to play this hold on a sec. I think it's up pretty loud. But you know how to turn up the song my phone, okay. Okay, here comes the UPS guys dropping off the packages. So he knocks on the door. I shouldn't be laughing at this time. That's just like playing tennis thing ever met because he's just like so loud. He does every time now he doesn't do it. I'm in the house. Now if I'm in the house, we don't make that noise. We took like a normal dog. Like seriously, if I heard that sound coming from someone's house. I would like I think I would call the police like they have so I've had both UPS and FedEx or USPS. They don't give a shitt don't care. They don't give a shitt the FedEx guy delivers a chewy. He actually talked to me one day was like so I drop when I drop off your packages you have one. I think it's a dog any sounds like he's getting killed and like yeah, I know that's cognac. Yep. I know and he's not getting killed off. Until that one time I kind of was cuz he made the same noise when that happened with him and Merlot. Oh, okay. Okay. So but I like I was telling him when I was when I was, you know, trying to stop the bleeding that dude. You can't cry wolf like that all the time cuz I'm not going to pay attention to it off this for this kind of time then I'll come running. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm not going to normally believe you but like this time you had blood squirting out of your jugular on your necks. Okay. I'm going to take it serious this time but next time I was very concerned about my dog, but I was almost equally as concerned about my couch cuz literally that's the second thing. You're like cognac got like bit or something. He had blood squirting out. But listen, I got it all out of the couch. I think that's fine. You tell me when spider just like I've got all the blood out of the couch. They'll spray walk away man. I did I literally was just the same down holding my dog in my hand keeping pressure on the wound to save it the couch dog fuel pressure. Okay, spray the cat spray the couch spray the couch. She can go to the vet my God and when I called the couch And my dog the dog is but the cute well, it's light gray. I know but there's not a speck on it. There's not there was blood in your car off. There was blood in the car because things were squirting the car that was fucken awful. But he's fine. He's fine fine now, which is actually amazing that he lived through that it's all living dead. It was cuz I was home. Yeah, I wouldn't have been home. He had. Oh, he would not have I would have came home from it happened like an hour like an hour before you got home even know what a lot of made it and then you would have the leave your job. Yep for the day and come up there and I don't know what you would have found any came up their faith cuz I don't even know if I would have been able to call you. I would have called but I don't think you go to understood me. I think maybe maybe you would have texted and said I need you to come now or something. Added Lade as what I would yeah. Yeah, maybe there would have been a beast come to my house. Now if I got a text like that from you I'd be like, oh shit somebody died because tell me I had come to her house. So something super super super bad has happened. So yeah now cognac I want to specify this cuz I don't think I actually talked about it last week after or two weeks ago when that happened. Yeah, we talked about it. Okay? Yeah, it was his fault. Yeah. It wasn't anybody else's fault. He literally launched himself into somebody else's smell. So, you know when that happens you're going to get hurt. Yeah, you know, I've had a really interesting day today with my you should tell them about your animals. This is going to be an Animal Jam stupid animal podcast. So it's so today is the day that I work from home. So I don't go into the office. I have my computer here. I do things at home for work. So I get up this morning and I usually start earlier age. Normal, cuz I don't have to you know, get dressed and do my hair and drive to work. So I start early. And I get up and I see token. My black cat has brought a bird in from outside cuz they have a cat door. So they they can bring in whatever they want whenever they want. So he has brought in a bird and the birds laying on its back on the ground and he's like laying over it, you know like mine. This is mine. Whatever. I'm like, oh crap, so get a town a paper towel cuz it looks dead cuz it's laying on his back with his little feet up in the air. Oh my God. It's dead birds play dead really good though. So I go to grab it. It's not dead and it starts flapping around token grabs it again and I'm like no don't give it to me. Give it to me. You won't give it to me and I see him going under my bed. Now Mike. Okay, when they go to the bed, you can't get them know can't get them. You can if you want me to tell you how I get my cat's out of a bed. I'll well the part of the problem is is a bunch of shit under our bed and you can't even like my shotguns under there and you know, there's a loaded wage. No, it's but it's in it's case. So it's a big case and so it takes up a lot of room and there's like a whole bunch of other crap like shoes and stuff. They're yes. So once under the bed, you can't get him out. So anywho, I'm like shit. There's a live bird under there. So I go wake up Jeff cuz he's still sleeping cuz it's still kind of really I'm like, hey home. I need some help. Like what a Mike Bird. That's all I have to say. Is it like whenever he's like looks up and what I just say bird or Mouse because you know, it's and one of the cats just something in and so he gets up and he comes in here. We're looking all of our got my flashlight and looking it up and tokens just out here like laying on the carpet now like what like I'm more like, where's your where's your bird? He's just like staring out. He's pretty dumb but Can't find it can't find it. Funny Jeff looks over at the at this thing what I don't know what you call this. It's like a little tiny jewelry box like a Storage storage cabinet thing down and heels. Oh, it's right there. And as soon as he set that starts flying around the room flies out of the bedroom into the living room. So we follow it out there as it's flying across the living room one other one of my cats chew up and snatches it out of the air like a ninja. Yeah, like in ninja or like shit and then she goes behind the couch. Yep. That's a different cat named different cat, you know, so removing the catches yell at her Katniss Katniss. So finally she lets the bird go at flies into the hall and is like under Megan's bedroom door. Yes. And so and she's still asleep. That's a pretty small bird. It said it was a tiny bird. And so thay opens up the door trying to get the bird out. So then it goes in the bathroom starts flying around flying around. So finally Jeff gets it with the towel and we take it outside and it did fly away. So young still alive alive and recently recently alive. It could kind of sort of fly all kind of sort of law didn't get very far off the ground kind of flu like a little bit off the ground and it flew over into the neighbor's yard so but it wasn't dead. So we saved it. Yes, not an hour later in the living room and you can tell when something's going on the cats all stare. Yes at a spot of where something is at. So well backing up a little bit 2 days ago one of our cats brought in a mouse club. One and then let it go in the house. And yes, if you go to find it well, so today after the bird incident one of my cats found the mouse obviously and I killed it and had and they were playing with it. So I took the mouse away, you know, I'm sorry. You can't have that. Yeah, and so then I had to run down to a meeting come back and when I came back Megan's cat buddy, who's our big cat. He's a 20-pounder big fluffy orange cat was sitting on my bed and Megan was talking to me about school that day and I look over and he's his whole neck is soaked with the blood. Like soaking and I was like, is that blood make it's like oh that's her. That's her cat. She loves that cat dead. So like back to get a paper towel, you know, get all the blood whatever and I'm like, well he's not acting like he's hurt. He's been in for like hours and he's like a cross even eating he was sleeping. He's fine meowing at everybody. I get a wet rag and I like start wiping all the blood off and I'm like, I can't see anything and so off he brought he finally runs under the bed, which is where they go cuz you can't get them under there and cuz he's pissed because I was rubbing him with a wet towel and he's under there for several hours. Comes back out. I grabbed him just like his buddy and like yeah grab him Jeff grabs his head and he's like looking all rubbing his neck and all over. He's like, there's nothing here. He's it's not his blood so he he killed something. He's killed something. I don't know big something big because it was a lot of blood. And so I don't know what it was just like what the hell and then Heather gets here. Yes, and we're talking and tokens in my lap and I'm petting him and he's short hair cat and I'm like, oh, he's got a little bump right here yet. He's got a bump on his back like right above his back right leg off like scab or something. He has some thick hair. It's thick I had a hard time finding this so I'm like there's this little scabby thing Heather and Heather some digging in there trying to find the what ever it is. You did find it and you squeezed it. Yeah. I didn't really expect that much. I know this plus starts coming out like what the fuck so we get the pus out of it and then you're like, oh there's like to punch holes like something bit him. Looks like a mouse like a mouse Hollins from the foreign talents from the bird that we dealt with earlier and little bit it looks infected cuz and so we're trying to clean off. All up and of course, he doesn't let us do this sound like it. Of course. It was the last squeeze of like, okay, what else can happen with my animals knock on something right now. I'm knocking on the split end table because that it's been a crazy animal day. Crazy animal day I animal days been decent. You've had your share of bad ones lately lately. So you guys had Bourbonnais here got really bad, but he didn't have to go to the vet cuz I was able to handle most of that at home. Yeah cognacs fucking neck and face God that he almost died and I had to take the vet for that one. Yeah, like rush to the vet. But he's fine now then I realized I actually have three vials of half full antibiotics for Animals took the vet. Next time. I meant do this just like, you know what I'm just going to wrap some gauze around that shit and take this pill. Well, they can't it was a puncture wound. You can't really they said they needed. Yeah, Otherwise it gets infected. So it oozed. Yeah, that's when my son got bit by that dog. They didn't do anything. Yeah. They're like, we're just going to leave these open cuz it needs you need to let it let off. Drain gotta love that shit drain out. Yeah, like the others probably saliva. Yeah. Well, they cleaned that so heat when my son got bit in the leg there was to offer you judge like puncture marks. This is a big dog that bit him lines. They were canines and that was a big dogs. They were kind of far apart. And so there's cleaning it out in the emergency room. And there are putting saline in one of the puncture wounds and risk coming out the other puncture wound. Like I was like, oh my God, this is so just I can't look after this. This is my child and like this so grossed out so grossed out and chance, of course, he was twelve at the time and he's yelling. Oh, it's so gross while he's staring at it like cuz it's gross and cool at the same time cuz his leg That's cool. He wasn't upset about it or he was yeah, he did great. He still likes dogs. He does sound like dogs. Yeah. So on a different subject than our amazing animals page are really amazing. We should possible Apple Halloween and some upcoming events. We have oh and how we don't have it. That's let's do that. So for Halloween this year, it's on a Saturday, which is amazing, but also not amazing cuz it's fucking covid-19 Yer. Yeah go anywhere do anything. Yeah, so you're not like touch other people. You can't have parties supposedly off and go trick-or-treating and your car would why does that how is that working where you your kids stay in the back of your car and go to a place where there's lots of people standing there of a hand you candy one of them handy, you can T versus you're going to a door and getting candy. So let's I'm going to tell you this. Okay. There we go. This is what my work is doing doing the car thing. Yes. Are you called the candy Cruise? Okay, there's three different organizations in town that are doing that. We are participating. So can someone hit all three candy Cruise? Yes. Oh, yes. It's like a whole thing you go downtown and you come by pybus and then you go to the Town Toyota Center and it's a a thing. So we're going to have tents out. We'll just drive by and we of course we're supposed to be dressed up but we're going to have a mask on of course, of course Aaron wearing gloves. Do you have to have a mask on if your costume includes a mass know? Okay. That's the mask. As long as there's something over your face. You do realize those just like a most I don't want to hear about the medical grade shit. Okay? Okay, here we go. If you have off your face accounts, and we have to wear gloves and well, it's stupid anyways, so we have to our gloves to and then we just like like dead. Like latex gloves that kind of ship. Yeah. Oh, okay, and then we hand the candy to the child in the car. You're handing it to him with my gloves on but you're going to are you going to change your glove in between jobs? Why would I not touching the kid? Are they touching the can know I'm dropping it in their bucket? Oh, I'm not touching the child still with them going to the house isn't doing the trick or treat thing. I wouldn't want to put that are the kids going to school board costumer. There's no costume wastup. Yeah. I don't know you could just put jammies on the bottom and just do the well, you know just have a mask on and they they actually don't even need to dress up just drive by and I will hook a piece of cake you don't care. One of the kid is they want to dress up? Yeah, but they can't get out of the car. Like literally we cannot even give candy to someone that walks up to us. You have to be in your car. If you walk up to us, you don't get any candy go get your car and drive around. They don't have a car value. Don't get any candy then. What if they came up with one of those cute little cars that's like a Tikes car that you have to Flintstone it. No, that's still a car that's not really as far as a lawsuit not a really car as a car. It's not like there's a little tight skirt title of adult has to be driving the car. What if they have a license the kid know they can't get us now. What if it's all Utopia lights and Heather Heather? I know I know Megan has one like okay. Here's your candy know pretty fucking cute. So that's that's what we're doing. We're actually doing the same thing up in idiot. They're supposed to be doing a drive-by thing at the school where people are volunteering and you can go there with your costume and hand out candy that night. We are dead. Our houses we have told select few kids that we know on a trick or treat and they're going to bounce back and forth between mine and my sister's how many many many many times feel like it's going to keep giving them candy over you go to a house of someone that you know, yes, I feel like that's fine. Yeah, we told this mom cuz she lives between us and she's the house right next to my sister's house close to a closer to me. Yeah. Yeah and this little girls so cute and she's so excited for trick-or-treating. She's just now three so same age as your little granddaughters. Yeah. I kind of understand. Yeah and she wants to trick-or-treat. So we're like, yeah just bounce her back and forth my husband and I switched out every time I'll try to put a different shirt on every time off and we'll give her a bunch of candy. Yeah. I told her mom was I'll give her so much candy. She'll have a bucketful for just my house and it's like and then you're going to keep her that though wage. No, I'm going to keep her that's a fun part. Just don't let her eat at all. Yeah, Kathy for you know months. Yeah the whole plan. So I'm really only buying can be one kid. Well, that's sweet though. She'll have fun. She getting you a lawful size cuz I do full size of my now I know so she'll probably get the whole thing the full size by the end if she's like, let me know what your last time and dump the whole tray in there. Yeah, for sure for sure. I know we don't need it. So here just like take it that's like at the end of Halloween. Usually if we get trick or treaters almac handfuls like take it take it off last year. We were quite popular cuz it was our second year doing the full sizes. So it gets out. So it does it does go to this house. You have the full size. They give you a full size. Candy bar lounge. Yeah, we don't see I don't even touch it. So how is that? I'm doing a good with Covetous yours. I have it all on a beautiful platter and I can present the platters I please take your favorite song. Then they just grab what they want off the platter and then it's over. I don't grab it. See perfect. That's all right, covid-19 practicing for this for a couple of years now and then the day after Halloween tell them about a Kobe so I have an Autumn bucket list or is there an at in your wine? It was on the rim? Okay, it was thinking about jumping in but he always die. I don't know why they do that. They just going to die. Okay, if you had to die or drown when you want to drown in mind, I guess if I had to you had to drown I would rather drown and wine versus water. Yeah, that's true. That's true. At least you're happy when you go well, I don't think I'd drown I just try to drink it. I know it's a streak it really fast. It's fine and then I'll be able to breathe. It's like Thursday in the well. What you know if you drink enough, you won't even care if you're dying, cuz you drink a beer and wine the day after Halloween the Sunday. So we are going to have a tailgate part first one first one and it's actually not technically tailgating cuz we're not at like a stadium go into a game cuz you can't go to a game. Where do you pointing at buddy? Oh, we're just going to tailgate and my front yard because you can't go to a game. So but that's on my Autumn bucket list. It's a tailgating party. So we're going to do it we have to do it and we're going to have lawn games. Yes. We are. I don't know what ones am I burning my thingy? No, don't bring that. What is that? Same croquet got that thing. We're not going. Okay. That's so not a football thing. Oh, I have a little bag of things. Do you like what so it has a Lame-ass like ring toss tiny. Oh that would be fun. So as a little steaks in the Raines was saying these are it's a lame set that I got though. And it has a sticky ball thing. Oh, I love chut Ki ball. And then it has a Frisbee and then it has the big Target little like circular things. Yeah. I'll bring the bag then bring that that sounds fun. You don't want my damn. I don't want their kro. Kaisa fuk. That's Sissy Sissy game never been used once and it's long. Do you want to use it? No, I don't even know how to play croquet. I didn't know what the name was when I told Kobe what I have when she asked me if I had a cornhole. I was like I have that thing. They played in Alice in Wonderland. You know what that is. I don't know the thing with colored balls. So we had a we had a croquet set when I was growing up, but it's like not a super fun. Like it's kind of a, you know, people in fancy dresses are supposed to go around him. Trumpet and eat crumpets. So yeah, you can bring it we could do it. We could try it out. I'm guarantee. It will dissolve into riots speak with our group of people even know how to play. I just know you're supposed to put the ball through your supposed to like tap it and I can just see us being like hitting it as hard as possible and being like those balls are actually hard their wage. They are what if we hit somebody's car with it. So you're supposed to hit one ball with the other ball. You can't yeah. We used to hit one ball through the years as it hits zero certain hole and yeah, it's hard. It's really hard. Actually. I don't know I supposed to hit a nerve ball. Yeah, so never play. I don't know how to play. It's really hard will have to look the rules up. I know we're not playing. Okay, no croquet. No, right bring all the other stuff. Okay. I brought a bought a bunch of little mini footballs that I thought were those soft like plush filled ones, but they're actually like hackie sack one. So if you throw it at someone it's going to hurt the Orchid hacky sack a log. Daddy not really. Oh, okay. Be used to used to maybe we should have like a contest or something. on the tailgate party the table that's telling him about it football exact. So yeah, so we're going to do all that we're going to make hot dogs and chili and pep buffalo dip and whatever everybody else ought brings and then we're going to watch the football game and then guess what the weekend after that is Toby's birthday party birthday party. Her actual birthday. Now, we're actual birthday. She seemed to have a nice quiet birthday with her work and her family and immediate family except that alley won't be there when I have it all my work know she won't be wow. Maybe she'll like a field trip from her house. I can't believe the alleys not going to be there on my birthday. She actually I really feel like if she listens to the podcast she may not miss it. Now. It's going to depress my girlfriend a lot of color for my birthday present one or not. Quit working. You're working on your birthday. I am Yes, and then I'm taking a rest of the week off. I know because we're having sleep cuz we're gonna have a summer party. Oh God. Yes. We are going to have us number party of a party Heather's house. We're going to have that on Wednesday night. Yep. I'm going to pick up after I get off work. Yep. And then we're going to go home. She's going to get the watch my Terror of action of chores for the first hour. Yep. Just observing. I don't need a help. I have a routine. I'll take pictures that all great looking to watch that and then not only takes about an hour cuz I'll do most of the bulk of the work then I started drinking then of course. Okay right away. You can go to them and pick out whatever you want. And we're going to have a fun night. And then I took the next day off. So we'll be just chilling the whole day. I'll make her some beautiful breakfast and experts watch a movie. I'll watch many movies at home. Okay? What are we going to watch when we we have a lot of options especially now like once I get your Hulu account. Oh, yeah, we can watch anything on there. Well, then I have you know, I also feel oh, I have Netflix. I have a Disney plus ESPN. Oh man. I really think about what I want to watch and I also have a ton of movies on disc okay off when I have your brother's thing that they're won't call your brother because he's embarrassed if Lex over that he can't get it to work. Okay. Again, it's Jeff help him, please help him. This is second weekend off Chef the next time you guys come to Wenatchee. Can you stop by Heather and doors house fix it, please. Please fix it. I just want it fixed. I want there's so many things in there. I want to watch and there's more techno than me and a dog. Is just not that great. He's not that much better than so. It'll get fixed. All right, we gotta go because already done. Yeah. So sorry guys, we talked about wage fucking nothing. Sorry. That wasn't nothing podcast learn a lot about us, but that that's what's going on with us in our lives right now, basically animal trauma and home, work drama and delivery drama delivery. So like he's fucking dying in my house. That's what's going on in our lives so long everyone have a great week. You know, what we'll try it. We have a brand new poster. Woo, so we'll try to take a picture and post that and we're still working on the YouTube thing to get that up and running and you can see all of our crazy cuz we do make a lot of wishes and we show we we move around a lot and stuff and so you'll be able to see that. So yeah cuz it's going to be dead. There was so, go fuc. Okay, so everybody have a great week and we'll see you next time. We'll have a topic. Oh, yeah, we'll have a topic. It's for sure, for sure to work on that pretty I'm pretty sure we'll have a topic next time. It'll be a great one. Pretty sure I think it'll be I'm going to try to find a really cool Halloween crime one. Let's do that. Okay next week. We'll do Halloween. I'm sure Halloween really some creepy things that happen around Halloween that actually has happened. Yes. Yes will do that. Okay. That's all do we promised we promised they'll be a topic next week. Yes. Okay. Okay guys we love. All right. Love you. Peace out Chris.

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Seduced by Substack

"Charlie elle's first day as an internet content creator did not get off to the smoothest of starts. I like okay like crack your knuckles like it's to go in a start day. One as an entrepreneur. It was tuesday. And charlie had just left a job as an opinion writer at the new times to start a newsletter only laptop by tonight with the times laptop eggs like i get like another day out of this. I opened it up but it was just like completely wiped dislike locked like enter it. You know administrator passcode as like and his subscribers many of whom are shelling out. Six dollars a month or sixty five a year. We're expecting post day. One you gotta like deliver for these people who are now paying you money to subscribe to you. Know your publication Opened on my phone. I just started like all right. Let's blog asli blogging from my phone. So so yeah. We're galaxy brain is off to a roaring start. Galaxy brain is the name of charlie's newsletter. It comes from this meam with a picture of a brain and a series of expanding thoughts each one more grandiose and ludicrous than the next unlike a lot of things on the internet. It's a meam about the internet and how it gets into our heads. It's a joke but it's also sort of not that duality mirrors charlie's life right now. He's been thinking and writing about the internet for years including about how people monetize themselves online in new and different ways and now he's decided to monetize himself online in new and different way leaving traditional media the new york times to write a newsletter for sub stack the latest hot platform. So i i've been doing a lot of reporting in the last couple of months in the times around like the attention economy and just detention as a subject general and that kind of led me to thinking a lot and doing all the reporting around creators. And and i kinda felt like they were to some degree. Creators are like the canaries in the content minds. Right like there's sort of like to a lot of these online dynamics that a lot of us are going to be subject to the normal people. And i wanted to some degree to do this as an experiment. 'cause i'm writing about it like to live in that world as i cover it today on the show like charlie are walking away from perfectly good jobs and going it alone online. I'm lizzie o'leary and you're listening to what next show about technology power and how the future will be determined. Stick with us. This episode is brought to you by progressive one of the country's leading providers of auto insurance with progressives. Name your price tool you say what kind of coverage you're looking for and how much you wanna pay at progressive. We'll help you find options that fit within your budget. Use the name your price tool and starting online quote today at progressive dot com pricing coverage match limited by state law over the past few years. I've started to feel like everyone. I know has a newsletter summer about parenting some recommendations for what to read or watch a lot of them are free but there are a few that i pay five or six bucks a month for and that last part that people are willing to pay for content. The feels personal and considered is something that silicon valley investors have latched onto consider sub. Stack the company that charlie is publishing his newsletter through it started in two thousand seventeen and is now valued at six hundred fifty million dollars. There are thousands of subsc newsletters and reportedly millions readers part of subjects plan. According to one of its main investors is at the promise of money and editorial freedom would make people like charlie jump. I think honestly most people listening to this would think giving up a steady job even if we take the new york times out of this equation giving up any steady job with name recognition health insurance good benefits to take a gamble on the internet by yourself is bananas. Why did you do it. I did it. Because i think that really happened for me. Was that like my a lot of my priorities change And and i started to get really kind of burned out by the news. New cycle and i started noticing things like gravitating towards as a writer were quieter or a little bit like off the news and i would write those things and i would get this great feedback from google. It would speak to them in some way or start this conversation. We'd have these great offline. Conversations was difficult to harness them. And i just felt like that there was something there that there is kind of like a yearning for stuff. That was a little off the ball. Like that. there's so much just Like a deluge of mutes right and what people want is is that contacts in. it's not always fitting that like that closing new cycle window frame And it just fully chasing audience after a while. I saw you use that phrase in something that you had written about this. And i guess i i understand that impulse and i'm trying to square it with the idea of then starting a thing on your own which requires so much work and you know to another degree chasing a different kind of audience. An audience of paying subscribers leeann. I wonder how you think about that. I think i was. I was burned out in a in a in specific kind of way of having to pay things to a very specific conversation. But i'm not burned out is like building something that i think has long and sustaining value. There's this Twitter streamer hassan. Piker who. I've talked to a bunch. And when i first met him i went on his stream. And there's like fifty thousand people on it and it's just crazy like stream of comments but he has dislike discord channel and inside it. He and his audience are constantly like basically building his show every day. Like it is totally collaborates. They're like telling him what they want him to talk about showing him interesting things like challenging him. He's challenging bam. It's a very interesting sort of form of audience and like journalists or creator. Pundit interaction and. I think that i'm not saying it's the future of whatever like but it's it's fascinating. I wanna talk about the specifics of sub stack for a second because it feels like it's everywhere and part of that is it's because it's disrupting our business the media business but it's not just that i mean one of the biggest stars on some stack. Is heather cox richardson. Who's nestorian what is sub stack. Doing right well. I mean what they're doing right is also maybe to some degree what they're doing wrong. Which is they're kind of staying out of it to some degree right so you know. I didn't take a deal right. I didn't take any advance. You didn't take one of these sub stacked pros where they give you a big bunch of money up front and in return for that subset keeps a lot of revenue on the back end rare that first year right so i didn't sign a contract like i didn't. I had a conversation basically with some people and it was kind of like if i did this. What would it look like what you know. What kind of resources do i need up front. It was the weirdest sort of leg ghetto. Taking a job. Kinda thing you could take because you really like weren't doing it. It was incredibly hands off. You know it was like we'll give you some resources in terms of best practices and they're paying for their subsidizing some healthcare for me which is important but like very hands off. This is the freedom that so enticing to so many people and is one of the reasons that big names like glenn greenwald or advice columnist. Heather heather leschi or sleet zone. Dear prudence danny lavery have launched their own newsletters. Part of the pitch is that stack gives writers the infrastructure to publish process payments if someone charges for the newsletter sub stack takes a cut ten percent other than that they writers do what they want. And then let the raiders. Specific audiences find them was talking to somebody who runs a very very niche technical kind of sub stack for a specific industry. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say who but they were like i was never at my old publication allowed to write long explainers about like x. Technical weird thing in every time they do it now their posts go huge huge out. External traffic their beloved by the subscribers. nets them a ton of paid subscribers. Like they're making great money and it's this weird thing that's like this would be sort of the opposite of newsworthiness. You know So i think what they're doing right. Is there like letting people do the thing that they find really interesting and kind of staying out of it to that degree also in some sense. That's why they're in trouble. Subjects been criticized on two fronts. I the company is paying several high profile writers six figures upfront in those subject pro deals other writers who don't get those deals have to build a paying audience themselves without the company cash. The other part of this though goes back to the freedom thing substance. Let's controversial people say controversial things about trans issues. Feminism race and free speech and controversy gets sick. the idea is if you're staying out of it. If you're not say in their editing for accountability say or for letting your creators be kind of as controversial as they wanna be. That gets them attention. That's good for the bottom line but is it. I dunno capital g. Good that that. I don't know i'm like i'm very. I'm very conflicted about about a lot of it right and yet you decided to go for it In a sense. Because like i am going to be accountable to myself in this like i am doing. I'm doing my thing. But i'm really interested in building a community and doing work that is meaningful and helps people understand. A lot of these dynamics enforces at one to build a place for like civil disagreement for iterative ideas for unpacking complex subjects. Like i have this desire to to do this thing. And i think that that is a net good for the internet like. I'm trying to build the internet. I want and i understand that is requiring me to leverage a platform. That has people on it that i don't agree with and who espoused views that i don't agree with. I don't know that you can ever be like perfectly moral on the internet. And so i think that the opportunity for me to build i want to build. I think that outweighs taking a moral stand on a platform with tens of thousands of people on. There's also money in it. If charlie signs up just one thousand yearly subscribers that sixty five thousand dollars minus expenses and sub tax cut and other raiders moved to sub stack are reportedly making well into the six figures after the break who has the power here. Creators are platforms. Well there are so many great podcasts out there new checkout pivot the webby and iheart winner for best business. Podcast hosted by journalist cara swisher at nyu professors scott. Galloway pivot is critically acclaimed for its approach toward tech media and their wider influence on culture politics and the economy. Every tuesday and friday karen scott unravelled the week's top stories to explore. What's happening what comes next and what it all means for you. Listen to pivot from new york magazine on apple spotify. Or wherever you get your podcasts support for this podcast comes from goldman sachs what goldman sachs experts and leading thinkers have to say about trends shaping markets industries and the global economy. Stay informed with the latest insights from goldman sachs on the economic and market implications of covid nineteen available on our podcasts at yes dot com slash covid nineteen or any of your favorite podcasts platforms. It's not just sub stack of course in the past few years. There's been an explosion of ways to make money from your personal brand. Online patriarch on tiny letter. Ghost instagram tiktok youtube cameo so many different platforms to monetize that inner thought. Creative choreography or everyday relate ability. There's this concept from the founding editor of wired kevin. Kelly called a thousand true fans. And i don't know how familiar you are with this but it gets to the heart of what you're doing and his ideas you don't need millions of dollars you don't need millions of customers like to make a living as a whatever you need. A thousand true fans and those people will follow you and pay for that. I actually spoke to kevin about this in sort of like best where where he thought it was going and i think he feels pretty vindicated by. What's happening right now. Because i just think that this crater economy is maturing towards towards that end towards having a small group of people who care a lot about you and who can sort of support your work. I think it's great. I think that it's it's a sort of a healthier more sustainable version of the internet. But i also think it is still mediated through platforms. Will if you're a creator what do you do with. Because even if you're supposedly independent you can't be utterly divorced from the platform without you know showing up at somebody's house and just talking at them. The i think you came up with the future is just like singing telegrams but influencers like doing doc dances I've been thinking a little bit about about this. But i'm fascinated by the idea. Were probably going to see not like traditional unionization. But i think we're gonna see some kind of collective creator action in ways that we haven't before at some point and you know i because i think that there's a way in which you competitive tilt your head. Squint in look at some of what is happening through these labor lenses. And you can say like it's it's super messed up. If if these craters come to this platform bring just tons of people with a mask. Huge audiences make these platforms tons of money into the platform. Say hey you know we're going to tweak piece of our algorithm and we're gonna will cut your revenue by forty percent right that's like a kind of taxation without representation rightly you didn't agreed to those terms and especially as the income streams diversify and maybe less reliant on one platform or the other when something like that happens. I think you're gonna start seeing people band together and say like hey you need to some degree. We have to go where the eyeballs are but in another sense. We have a little more power here than we thought. Charlie has been mulling over the idea that maybe creators could take their thousand true fans and refuse to be captive to a platforms recommendation algorithm. What if it creators say like hey you know what like you have to be transparent about your algorithms relieving. You have to give us some sense of what's going on and hey we've banded together and formed this organization we're gonna take our stuff elsewhere. I just think that it's it's possible. Link some of these issues could get solved that way. You mention this idea of creator middle class. And it's something that this venture capitalist legion wrote about. You have talked with her about it. And i wonder how do solve this problem. The idea that there are the people who get the huge payouts upfront where the massive subscriber basis and. Then you know the idea that someone on spotify needs three and a half million streams per year to just get the equivalent of minimum wage. Where where does the potential middle come from. Any one thing that is just the huge glaring hole in this is the blunt american fact that healthcare is tied to your job tonight to employment like it's just. It's going to be a massive problem for anyone who wants to create a freelance lifestyle out of this. Because then you're going to have to you know i. It's so precarious and it also is like it's the big rights to be hurdle preventing lots of people from taking the elite who otherwise could this is. Why i'm i'm really fascinated by the future of this because i mean this is a big industry this being created on the internet. Yeah the influenced industry You know like. I was talking to a person who runs a big company. Trying to like help influencers La in there like it's it's crazy to watch this play out in like industry right like the best dental surgeon right like if they have a massive falling on tiktok to showing people with teeth like it helps their practice right which has nothing to do with be good creator but like the influence our worldly impacts everything else being an influencers the number one most desired career right now for like young people so like how are we making that sustainable for them if that is their american dream quote unquote massive hole in it. People didn't take influencers or creators. Seriously until pretty recently people thought of it as like kids digging around on the internet right. But i think we're starting to see that it is. It's a viable path for certain people. It's a really desirable path and it's not going anywhere. Do you ever at the bottom is going to drop out. It's it's scary right leg. It's the risk is is part of the excitement and part of the reason to do it. It's two ways of looking at it right now. one is that like. I think there's going to be a certain point where people like. I can't pay seven hundred dollars a month for a whole bunch of journalists in like than they will look over at something like the new york times he'd be like oh you employ fourteen hundred journalists and it cost me five ninety nine a month like that's a pretty good deal so i get that and i think that that could happen but also i think that mostly human beings out in the world probably don't subscribe to a single sub stack and probably barely know what it is when and how you're going to know if this is working coming one is obviously lake checking in after a year but i don't think that this is ever going to be failure and the reason why i say that is like right. Now i'm building out an email lists. I'm building out a group of people who care about this. And i'm going to work my ass off to continue to be in conversation with them and build their trust and that relationship isn't gonna go away because they didn't make a lot of money because i'm not in it to become a mega millionaire or something like that or the king of my content entire 'cause i wanna i want to deepen my relationship with people who care about the things that i care about. I don't know that. I can sail in that specific way like fully fail. Charlie wars al. Thank you very much. Thanks for charlie. Wars al rights the newsletter galaxy brain. All right. that's the show is produced by ethan brooks and edited by alison benedict tori. Bosh unleash gumri is the executive producer for sleep podcasts. Tvd is part of the larger. What next family. And it's also part of future tests a partnership of slate arizona state university and new america. I want to recommend you go back and listen to thursday's episode of what next it helped me understand the concerns around the johnson and johnson covid vaccine and with them in context all right. What next back on. Monday have a good weekend. I'm lizzie. o'leary thanks for listening.

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Full Episode: Friday, October 5, 2019

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I'm a wealthy businessman I'm going to take care of you. You can be my slave just a wonderful life. He made her believe that her daughter was on the trip of a lifetime. When the reality was it was in a barrel on his farm dead nineteen year old Lisa Stacey and her five month old daughter Tiffany had been missing for more than fifteen years now. Where where is stacy then? There's the baby what happened to the Iraqi asleep. She's alive and we are now for the first time ever hearing from baby tiffany. She has never spoken out until now. It's highly likely that you were right there in that room when John Mortgage Mother Devil has com. Maybe at the bottom of the river the river. Ah Kansas City right here in the Midwest is right in the middle between Kansas and Missouri. There's Kansas City Kansas Kansas City Missouri Cab city's Kinda formerly wild town during the prohibition era was kind of the beginning of the West people. Maybe have an image in their head of cowboys and cattle rustling but it's it's a it's a big city and home of Harry Truman Barbecue and and jazz first inkling I had of it was I'd heard that they've found somebody's in Johnson County. Just set straight up in bed. I got goosebumps and somebody said well. We've got a body or two in Linn County. The energy and the news were suddenly jumped. It's one of the biggest stories of the year it could not have been bigger in Kansas City. It was shocking working pretty soon. They said well they're in barrels. We've pulled about three fifty five gallon drums out a couple of hours ago. We do not know where they were murdered. We do not know when they were murdered and we do not know how long they have been in the barrel. It was like a Stephen King novel in real life. The bodies were scattered between the two states and we're in barrels. There's such horror and grotesque nece now. Gosh that's pretty evil pretty. Nevil suspect is being being killed in the Johnson County jail. He's identifying John. E Robinson and I said okay put that one will Robinson is a suspected serial killer who investigators believe may have victims dating back to nineteen eighty four. This was was like the nightmare that Kansas City didn't know they had there were bodies but no one knew they were there he had hidden them. Robertson connected to all these fishing women including nineteen year old youth was so all these women are disappearing disappearing that are involved with John Robinson but then there's Lisa Stacey and it's a whole different story because she has this four-month-old baby that finishes dossier and her baby Tiffany tiffany and her mother Liza disappeared in Nineteen eighty-five shortly after meeting John e Robinson nineteen year old Lisa Stacey and her five-month-old daughter. Tiffany had been missing for more than fifteen years now you do you think every day where is Lisa Stacey then. There's the baby what happened to the baby. I think everyone that's associated with this. Investigation wants to know tiffany. Stacy is still fill out there if she is still alive and if so where we had several tips that came in after the arrest as far as number of leads on sure well over three hundred the big tip about tiffany was was a huge tip few people dared. I hope that either mother or child was still alive until this summer. When police made a staggering discovery now there are indications tiffany could be alive in nearly sixteen ecksteen years old? Stacy's daughter was still alive. I thought I was stunned when I heard about the bodies in barrels but I mean my head spike this is trying time Thursday. Chris Cuomo tells a tale full of twists turns and tantalizing clues. No cases more haunting than the mother and baby vanish together long ago good afternoon. We'll go ahead get started stories that it has been confirmed and we're very comfortable with the fact that this girl is tiffany Stacey. My sister called me. She always cat get ready especially fed she goes. I've got some news for you He thinks they found tiffany. It's all it's in the paper that I'm very very happy today that finally that my niece tiffany as we know her as the live we pride right card and God showed us. Her priors made it possible for them to find funny. I I remember the day that it began a ripple through the newsroom at the star that this this child was still alive and it was like you could see the shockwave go go to death and blood and everything and then suddenly miraculously this girl exists. She's alive very hopeful. There was a survivor. It was a child. The body of Lisa's Stacey has never been found as most of you probably know tiffany. Stacey was reportedly adopted by I am midwestern family in January of nineteen ninety-five where she remains today the infant the Stacey family newest tiffany is now almost sixteen years old living somewhere in the midwest with her adoptive family. The family has asked us to read short. St Paul's our deepest sympathy goes out to the other families families victimized by the events unfolding in the case involving John Robinson we to have been betrayed by this man. Body of these stacey has never been found. Do you have any expectation that ever will be who knows how she is doing this. His our understanding is as you'd probably expect. She's having a difficult time with this and a struggling with the war this whole thing there's enough drama teenage girls lives to begin with but face something like that must have been incredible show age progression photos and what she may look like now he tells accurate kitchens invention easy answer because I've never seen the girl in in twenty years. Since this incredible story first broke this baby tiffany that was found alive has never spoken until now. We are now for the first time ever hearing from baby tiffany. Her name is heather and she is telling US her story. I was assigned this story in twenty fourteen and I reached out to heather. She said she wasn't ready and I told her to hang onto my number so four years after I initially reached out to heather my phone rang and I picked up and she said this is Heather Heather and I'm ready to tell my story all right. We're going rolling coming about child bodies found on his Linn County Kansas Bar nineteen year old Lisa Stacey and her daughter Tiffany. They've been missing since nineteen eighty-five Johnson County prosecutor. Interpol Morrison says the Mid West family who thought they legally adopted this little girl tiffany. Stacey fifteen years ago was duped allegedly by Johnnie the e Robinson. What do you want to find out about your biological mom find out where she is. I WanNa know who she was. My just I know nothing of my mother. That's haunted me my entire life. Do you believe he will find out. I know I'll finder arbor. Today's itineraries right now touches innings. Lena me weird to O'hare were going to land in Kansas. City in the first step on Heather's journey was going back to where the story began Kansas City. We're her mother was born where her mother was killed and where a lot of these answers hopefully work for her. I really hope that we can find at at least the location of Lisa where he put her at least for Heather to be able to say goodbye actually order. We are here to need. All Morrison promotes the district attorney John Hearing Kansas. It's very nice to meet you. Do you think in your experience I'll find more. She is Fi. Keep pursue are stranger things have helped oh absolutely and especially nowadays with advances in technology. I think you should this is a picture of heather just a few months after she was born but she's not header here. She's tiffany her name and the entire course of her life changes because of a man named I'm John Robinson John. Robinson was a very interesting man. Originally from Chicago area John Robinson was born in Nineteen forty-three in Cicero Illinois and grew up in somewhat working class neighborhood here from everything we know about John Robinson's use it was ordinary. He was an eagle scout he loved animals the moles and got along great with everybody in fact when he was young man made a trip to England where he sang for the Queen of England on a command performance for Queen Elizabeth at the Palladium in London when he was about thirteen backstage at the palladium he ran into Judy garland she kissed him on the Cheek and this made a big story in Chicago papers in Nineteen Sixty four he was twenty one years old and he met a woman named Nancy Joe Lynch and they would be married for decades and decades. He got a job at a Chicago Hospital being an x ray technician but in instead of doing a lot of xrays he started you know having affairs and stealing money from the hospital. John Robertson got a job in the late sixties I would with a Dr Graham who happened to be Harry. Truman's personal personal physician he was a very good people person smiled a lot gave it excellent first impression but and he had another side to as well it was found out that he embezzled twenty five thousand dollars from Dr Graham but we weren't the only ones he went on to have many many years of embezzlement and another white collar crime. What's he had this long long careers this con man if there was a way to con somebody. Johnny Robinson had already thought through always doing a call on he's always stealing from someone time after time. Robinson is caught and convicted convicted for these white collar crimes but every time he manages to escape any real significant prison time nine hundred seventy seven. There's a banquet downtown Kansas City at one of the hotels and they announced it the man of the year was John Robinson for all his great work done and it turned out that it was his own invention nominated himself ordered the plaque himself although thing he made it all up with a lot of serial killers. You hear that cliche about them. Living double lives this guy had five lives kind of have to think about his wife and family. They have four children by now. He's trying to present himself and a very favorable light is the referee of his kids soccer games. He's an elder at the church. I think part of the reason that he was able to get away with it so long because he didn't look dangerous. It looks more like the pillsbury dough boy he does. You know the chainsaw massacre guy. He's very congenial. He smiles laughs. He tell stories stories slaps you on the bag. Steve Robinson's probation officer. He had his eye on Robinson for a long time. Knowing that something beyond white collar crime was involved here. There was no doubt in my mind that Robinson Robinson was up to to no good open an Olathe north high school yearbook from the Early Nineteen Eighties. You'll we'll see a dark haired. Girl with a very bright future is to be nineteen eighty-four. He Hires Paula. Godfrey Hall answered an Ad in the newspaper for a job. That's where she met Robinson. She disappears her father confronted. John Robinson who totally I know what you're talking about all of a sudden these letters started appearing signed by his daughter saying oh I'm okay. I'm fine. Just I don't need to worry about me parent or sibling in close contact out of the blue you get a letter from probably made you feel good it at least initially the well thank you know they're okay but then on closer examination into often say well listen sound like unraveling very good. Predator shows victims well. They were looking for some way out of poverty problems. 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That's C. A. P. T. E. R. R. A. dot com slash twenty twenty Capterra capterra software selection simplified Steve Payment Appropriations. He was John Robinson's probation officer in one thousand nine hundred eighty S. He had a hunch back then the John Robinson was guilty something very serious and he pursued that Hoggart hero meeting thirty five years in the making yes it is. I've watched my own kids. Grow Up. I you know I've always you know what became came to this girl. What happened to her. I was haunted by that picture picture of you and your mom images just burn in my online. I had searched high and low through the city but it all went. It all went nowhere her. I don't think anyone cared more about Lisa the needed and the fact that all those years he never gave hey bob which is always motivated me because I refuse to give up Lisa Stasi was a young woman difficult marriage. I'm at least nineteen thousand four. She was from Alabama Obama. She was a southerner. She was beautiful. Sadat pertinent decide. They want to get married This is tiffany's baby. This is Alison Riding. Has she failed about tiffany when you are old enough to read this. I hope you will still be feeling the love I have for you because it's a love stronger than life itself and then it ends after four months. There's nothing pages so so how did change when the baby was born. I was struggling finding work and we were having problems was working out. It said that she'd had a fight with Carl mm-hmm and she didn't know what to do or where to go and so I took her to the house. We had a residential facility facility and housed about twenty five women and children at a time and at the same time John Robinson had started Kansas City outreach program which was purportedly a program to help downtrodden women through this phony philanthropic take effort Robinson was introduced to Lisa Stasi ends up putting her up the Roadway Inn Lisa had left the Roadway Inn. She had taken the baby. Robinson was frantic final choose at my house and what was she saying she was just telling me about. This person and I feel needs to gather. There's this blinding snowstorm. The city is paralyzed. Robinson shows up at Kathy Klingensmith House. We've got to leave right now. We've got to get out of here. I was very scared me loads Lisa and tiffany up his car leaving the High Lisa's car her clothing baby food diapers she I went back to the Roadway Inn and that's what my mom got the phone call. She said they want me to sign these papers. Four of them and I said go sign then and she was just crying and then he finally settled down and she says here they come Meltzer last time and then what happens then she disappeared disappeared forever and then they get a letter from members of the family all of a sudden received typewritten letters supposedly from Lisa there we go again more letters from a missing woman just like Paula Godfrey from a year earlier. This is a copy of the letter. That was one of the four blank sheets of paper that you're saying. It said she saw absolutely and I want to thank you for all your help. I've decided to get away from this area and try to make good life for me and Tiffany was Lisa a big letter writer typewritten letters now. She couldn't have enough to to type A letter. Did he hurt her. Did he take baby. The more time went by more worried. We got what more we began to realize that she might not be alive. The Roadway Inn was one of the most important stops and others journey for sure other was at the Roadway Inn with her mother Lisa us. She was just four months old. She was a baby and police believe that there may have been there when her mother was killed when we took her to the site of where the roadway and why unfortunately it was no longer a bear good everything taken away from her life for child but I've never title forgotten this motel it lingers with May and somewhere around here. She's somewhere here getting some dirt and grass from area so I have something just something solid something tangible something fromm here justice enclosure for me is finding her remains and giving her a proper burial mm-hmm end pieces finally being able to definitively say. Lisa was a person. This is what they did to her. This is where she is. There's this emerging thing culture if you thought John Robinson was dangerous Sir John Robinson and the Internet was leaked Fars his five computers and he search and she's really confined the devil the devil pure and simple. How else can you look a person in the face and take their life. How did he go home and look at his children. Robinson was a nine to five serial killer. He committed all all of his crimes during the day at night he was home with his wife and his kids watching TV making dinner or later even as grandkids except no one knew what was inside those barrels awesome by the late eighty s two more women were missing nineteen eighty four. That's when nineteen year old polly Godfrey disappeared after making connections with Robinson Doc twenty-seven-year-old cabinet and clam was reported missing in nineteen eighty seven that was one of the things that has always troubled me about this case is all of these women disappearing over such a long period and never really coming back to him. I think police specialists Robinson was investigated as a suspect aspect back then but charges were never filed. There are people that just want to be gone or disappeared from their families and when in family members are getting letters. I mean who's to say that these aren't legitimate. It's easy to try and pin in some of this on the criminal justice system. Johnny Robinson was charming practiced. He pulled a lot of people in his life John Robinson finally he does go to prison but it's not for murder for fried. He gets a job working in the prison library. In a woman who worked there as a librarian was heavily bonner who was buried to the prison doctor starts an affair with her while he's an inmate and after he was released we know beverly left. The prison and Dan divorced her husband. Bonner leaves her family to basically become Robinson's girlfriend through the divorce arrangement. She's getting about a thousand bucks a month and somewhere along the lines. She dropped out of the pitcher but he collects her alimony. Only check for a long period of time later members of the family started receiving Christmas letters from Beverly Bonner who is traveling the world grandest police say fifty six year old. Johnny Robinson made many contacts over the years. Most I recently over the Internet in sadomasochistic sex chat rooms the Internet changed everything for us but the Internet also changed a lot for John Robinson it gave him a new weapon he will have have five computers set up his home now he had the whole world of of the online and the DSM subculture to be as hunting ground. We think that he is the first serial killer to transfer those skills onto the internet decide computers and he serse and sees what he can find Polish Polish immigrant Isabela Lewitt also has ties to Robinson they hook up through the Internet and he wants her to come to Kansas essentially to be his submissive and she suddenly disappears as well. There's a woman in Michigan names that trout shoes at trout picked up and came to the Kansas City area. Nearly two thousand in ultimately per case was the one that sort of the whole house of cards came tumbling down Robinson Jon Ronson was easily able to scam and to come down here to be the caretaker for his supposedly elderly father who had been dead for many many years part of would also attracted Suzanne to come down to Kansas. The city was as alternative lifestyle. I'm a wealthy businessman. I'm GONNA take care. You can be my slave and by the way we're going to travel all the time good exotic places. I went down there three times and he he took her to the airport limousine. She stayed in a guest house the drought and came here in February and very soon. Her mother said something was wrong. Detroit reporter emails. We're strange things weren't where did the way she would word. everything was spelled right. No no caroline did not hear from Suzanne she became worried and word enough to the point where she decided to make a phone call to the police department literally within three or four days we had a task group up and running trout and has to Pekinese Dogs Pika in Harry who she's very very close to. She doesn't go anywhere without these dogs. Caroline told us pecan Harry's is not around something Mary seriously various things happen. Suzanne never have gone anywhere not sailing not not across town nowhere without those dogs which we needed to find those dogs the day Suzanne goes missing. There is discovery at the trailer park where John Robinson Evanson lives to Pekinese. Dogs abandoned. Animal control is called so they come and take the dogs once the investigation Asian gets underway a detective goes to visit one of the families who adopted one of those Pekinese dogs to find out if it could be Suzanne Stock Calls Pico by name and says Pika. Come is yours perking up tail start wagging the dog runs immediately to this investigator estimator it says that stock and see that's probably dead the two detectives from from Kansas come to my office and they said do you remember the name John Robinson. I leaned over or an open the bottom drawer of my desk and I took out a file about this thick and I laid it on my desk and I said Yeah I remember John. Robinson Caroline Trout and the investigators are pretty confident that John Robinson had a lot to do with the disappearance Prince of her daughter Suzanne. So what does she do. She decides to get John Robinson on the phone himself Have you seen since I was very close to her mother and when she disappeared within a few days from other became worried and she contacted John Robinson whose who's number Suzanne had left. was a postcard thing saying they were I venture. They are trying to communicate him to get him to sort of network. Souso what happens it is she still around brought along a tape recorder and shoulder out of use it and we were hoping to orchestrate with her some sort of phone conversation where caroline could get some information that would help us understand what happens help us understand what else may be going on on junk. I wouldn't get nervous. John Robinson's holder that Suzanne Eh actually left with someone else that she didn't take the job and she was going to go away with someone else and traveled the world yeah well I. I understand their interest in in that conversation you're able able to hear almost even see. John's wheels turning mom's calling about her missing daughter. How do I cover for this family about this. I don't know I should at the big girl you can hear him. Skip a few beats and be a little bit stressed about this conversation that he's in very quickly did his game turn into smooth a silk island. Worry Dan I'm fine. I think you're probably having a wonderful time and make it mine. The I wouldn't call yeah it was chilling because he had answers for everything. He didn't skip a beat. He called her hi and wormed her up and made her believe that her daughter was on the trip of a lifetime soon in the investigation investigation of Suzanne. Trout disappearance family members began receiving letters. Some these letters came from Kansas. City than other other letters came from California relatives. We actually get birthday cards or birthday but all longest. It's not the way Suzanne writes in fact in one of the letters that they received one of the dog's name was misspelled and they knew suzette dogs and John Robinson Ed a stick that he used with these women. I'm GonNa be taking you traveling. We're going to be sailing on my dog or we're GONNA fly. Lie Europe Robinson told one of his employees or mistresses. You're going on a trip. That was was not a good thing. You'RE GONNA be so busy on this trip. I want you to write some letters right now. Here's some blank pieces of paper. Sign your signature tune. We'll have those ready. He would actually get these women to write. These letters signed blank piece of paper with signatures as part of the investigation Asian. We decided we were going to pull this trash. His home we would get the trash switch out trash bags and bring it back to the station. First first time we pulled his trash. We had one sack of nothing but shredded documents. We actually had tables where people were putting shredded threaded pieces of paper together taping together Bonanza because one of the documents we put together was a storage locker in raigmore. Missouri and they started surveilling this storage unit very closely. They wanted to see him going in or out. Why did he have as what was going on there. What what was in this storage unit. He was bringing in women from all over the country. Put Them Up. His hotels tells it was nerve. Wracking when women would come into town we have people following John Robinson investigators would rent joining room in a hotel when he was having one of his trysts women and have this little fear that something might go wrong. We had contingency plan for If he drove one down his farm and Levin we didn't want him. Take somebody down there and killing them. While we were developing this case towards the end of the investigation we learned that there was a young female that he he was trying to lower down to the farm and that's when we decided that we have enough and we're not gonNa let it go any further. We thought it's time to pull the plug. Robinson was taken into custody at the Santa. Barbara States mobile home park in Olatha where he lives with his wife to detectives went up knocked on his door and was invited in talk to him. The day escorted him out in handcuffs fifty-six-year-old John. E Robinson is accused of aggravated sexual shore battery of two out of town women he met on the Internet and taking more than five hundred dollars worth of sex toys from one of them charges or anticipated in this matter in the next few days. They arrested him. They were escorting him out in this league. Guys are making a big deal out of this. They didn't took him to the police. Station showed him some of the pitchers and some of the stuff we had already on him. He lost a little caller. Turn a little white. The weight of history history was coming to bear on right then. Call the lawyer. We need to apple investigators know that John Robinson has killed many women at this point but they don't have enough enough to convict him. The clock is ticking to build a case and fast because this is a man has gotten himself out of old lot of difficult difficult situation and they know that if they don't find these bodies that he's GonNa get away with it again and he's going to kill a guy we had a lot of information that led towards it but to the actual murders nope we didn't have any heather's birth mother was killed by a serial killer but it gets even worse because we're about to discover the secret connection between heather and her mother's killer and it's all in the family family relationships you. We're not releasing these people. They knew when we found out that it was it was raised in our niece. Just an unbelievable deliver story isn't it. One of those mind-blowing revelations about this story was to find out who was raising other all of these areas. What is it like to have convicted serial killer. The bodies were scattered attard between the two states and there were in barrels completely innocent people and he beat them to death of the Ham Param sample. It was like a Stephen King novel in real life. Robinson is a suspected serial killer who may anyhow victims dating back to nineteen eighty four John Robinson Kills Lisa Stacey then takes her four month old baby and gives her to his own brother to adopt newer that missing baby. They've been searching for and you find out. This uncle is being called. A serial killer had he not been caught. I'd be I would be in that barrel. Heather was prepared to get some bad news as she. He was digging into her mother story but I don't think she was prepared for this twist. In the middle of the night I received this letter that completely changed everything the thing that she was still alive John Sixteen acres or so down and our surveillance through some of the phone records. We were able to see that UH I down March. I is a day that doc went missing. Remember in the briefing. There's a very real possibility that this is going to be a capital yeah. Promoter tapes nice to meet you. Heather Matt that with Rick Ross and Dave Brown to the detectives that handled the John Robinson investigation and the two of them took her around several different places places in Kansas City including the farm looking at that far. We were down there looking for evidence or belonging doc. We'd we'd found something to help. That's fine. We search toll all morning long. We had dogs out here searching very rural area kinda out in the middle the nowhere which I suspect just what he wanted. This was all farm country back in dares the pong the dam was broken to empty the pond as part of the hunt for human remains at approximately noon after a break and finding absolutely absolutely nothing. I was contacted by one of the handlers of the cadaver dogs who wanted a skill move some trash for the dog kind of gave a hint and this was outside of the trailer. There's a little house there and barrels as sort of Ross was rolling the barrel felt when it sell the thin line came down the side. You know it was just a red line this fly. I went and landed on that red line when he right then and there that let's let's blood once. We looked in there do we saw as to. We believe Suzanne Trouser them. The second barrel was all of a sudden very interesting interesting open that up there was a second body and that one we immediately thought Isabelle Visca beyond the farm was actually one of the most emotional moments for me because burial ground that wasn't ever acknowledged evil lived. There people died. There people were brutally murdered there. Eric and you could feel bad. Tell me what it feels like to be here. It's sad you just said that. One mom nonstop persistence to finally get something to come Niki Sanford. Oh absolutely just kind of part of history part of my own you just being here the dreaming of thinking about it seeing being in all the images wondering if maybe she was buried here somewhere the farm was a place in time in John's crimes that didn't include her mother. Unfortunately there are no answers there about her mother. Why would you commit these murders and in same basically the evidence incriminates ourselves most people would commit a horrible crime. You want to get rid of the evidence he had that Mobile Acre Chilean out there me and these two barrels. That's taking a risk but see he did that. In order to psychologically release crimes vehicles leaving the scene I an indication. The search is winding down. We loaded the barrels into a truck and then transported them to be autopsy on Sunday Monday. Morning went into the store blocker in raigmore eight hours through a storage locker owned by John. Robinson proved proved the Linn County murder case gets more interesting by the day get inside in their three barrels. Someone's down to try and kill the smell and the barrels ernest somewhat state of disintegration. These barrels were different. They they had been there a while inside three barrels. They found three more bodies. We wondered if they might be the missing from the nineteen eighties it turns out the three bodies. Jewish Beverly Prison Librarian that John Lennon w these world different women. We didn't know oh of John Robinson sending letters and emails to the different family members of all all of his victims were to put off the families to delay them and in fact in the face and Bonner cases they never contact the police department police edify them as mother and daughter Sheila and Debbie faith. They haven't been seen or heard from since nineteen ninety-four. Debbie was fifteen then and confined confined to a wheelchair with cerebral palsy. They had a little over a thousand dollars from the government to live on plus food stamps. I mean in pretty desperate straits. John says come on out here. I'll take care of you. Don't take care of Debbie pack up the drive out to Kansas the city area and he connects her to a post office box olathe where her subsidies will come and and suddenly they're gone. Nobody knows where they are but the checks keep coming he will pull eighty thousand thousand dollars plus out of that mailbox or in the next few years we realized my gosh who is John Robinson and and who else we executed a flurry search warrants at John Robinson's house and office in his office and his home we found a photocopy of that. Roadway Inn receipt from ninety five the name Lisa Stacey on the room number on us. We we were able to find blank. Ladders with sues signed at the bottom of exactly what the letters look like that the families have received. We found photocopies copies of the letters he had already sent a family. Everything fell into place. It put everything together at that point. John Robinson began murdering hiring these women for money but he eventually started killing for killing sake. So why did he murder all these women only John. Robinson knows the answer so for two months. All we thought about was convicted John Robinson his crock bar goal is to prove that he had done it and we knew we had we began to look into these missing women from the Eighties Lisa Stasi being the first and foremost we got a phone call middle of the night say problems. I guess something to do with Heather. There are indications. Negations tiffany could be alive living with the Mid West family. What were your first memories of uncle. John mm-hmm Robinson is a suspected serial killer who may have victims dating back to nineteen eighty four nineteen year old Lisa Stacey in her five-month-old daughter. Tiffany had been missing for more than fifteen years the vibe Lisa Stacey has never been found baby. Tiffany Stacey was purportedly the doctor by Midwestern family in January of nineteen ninety-five she remains today. Oh Gosh someone's alive. That's huge little baby. Tiffany is okay. How did you connect John and me that I may have been Lisa's daughter. That was after ric recovered. The bodies at Linn County received a tip through the DA's office from apparently one of your relatives that said that Your Dad adopted the kid back in the eighties. Thank you for tuning into the Lisa Stacey effect. This is my adoptive father. How're you doing doing okay. Heather Heather is preparing a podcast about her mother and her first interview is her adopted Father Dawn who tells her about that night. When both of their lives changed forever kind of phone call in the middle of the night say the players problems but it might have something to do with heather the phone rang ones picked it up. I heard my dad so immediately. I hit the mute button. That's when I heard that John been arrested and the only part I remember hearing was they believed that he may be connected to Heather's mother and then I got off the phone and then they freaked out. I remember Frida running up and down the stairs panicking. How could he do this to us. We're going to go to jail. This is horrible. Our lives are over her and that was the first time I ever saw my dad cry Chicago. FBI went to the home talk to receive the timeframe and everything else recovered some adoption papers information like that we would eventually really look into so the FBI back that our door and we talked to the agreed to go the FBI office when they needed us to Vienna samples and fingerprints fingerprints your footprint. We've got all inked up officially we didn't know until they compared her footprint with the footprints imprint from the hospital records we had a tentative idea after that and then of course later on through DNA they were able to some firm that this was tiffany after that heather starts reading all she can online about the arrest of John Robinson so incredibly at the age of fifteen heather learns that her mother was killed by a serial killer and that serial killer is her uncle John told her and gave her to his own rather the idea of tiffany being adopted out to Robinson's brother came as a bombshell what kind of individual uh-huh and then adopt her baby to a brother. You were just fifteen and you find out. This uncle is being called a serial killer. What's going through your mind. What's going through your heart. It was kind of confirmation. It was reassurance that I wasn't crazy. off-putting feeling that horrible vibe and energy around him was very real and I wasn't making it up in my head. When I was fourteen fifteen I know it was prior to him being arrested we had gone down down to Florida for one of his kids weddings and then when we were there we were both on the dance floor start fine. That's you pulled me against me. Started grinding against me audie flush then asked me if I had sex if it hurt it hurt if I liked it and then he's like okay. I know things are really rough between your mom and dad tell you you message. Don't tell anyone I'll send you a plane ticket. You come out here. We'll we'll get things situated and settled for. You and we'll go from there so you were considering going down to live with your uncle John. I'm pretty sure I think it it was a month before he was caught that I was going to start asking them. Just get me. The plane took. I'll come down had he not been caught and you had moved down to Kansas to beat him. I'd be I would be in that barrel. She's a teenager and she learns for the first time to basically your whole whole life was alive and there must have been tremendously hard for her. John Actually created an entirely different history history for your you had a different name. You had a different birthday yeah. He said I was born October. Twelfth Nineteen eighty-four. I was actually born September third just more punches to the gut the October birthday really I love Halloween and I loved having my birthday October. My first time celebrating the September birthday been my sweet sixteen. I celebrate that locked in my room crying and bud wishing I was dead and I had never been born that that was my sweet sixteen knowing what John Did Lisa and knowing that he adopted tiffany out to his brother other. I don't know how anyone would be able to understand John's mar satisfaction emotional emotional response he might have to see your after year as she has heather grows up and John. Knowing knowing full well in what had happened what he had done. I certainly can't fathom and eh position obviously that there was no believable adoption in their mind. They believe they were legally the adoptive parents this little girl but if it's not illegal adoption in the broad she there folks. I still remember that and make sure that picture. I'm thinking was our before. He killed as your mom four hours before was available for what were your first memories of Uncle John. I don't really remember the younger years. I just remember the feelings he always gave me. This really weird off pudding feeling in the pit of my stomach. It's like walking down a dark alley in the middle of the night while you know someone someone is behind you approaching closer and closer so you feel like there was evil. They're even when you didn't know that word. You just felt that dread drop in near stomach in Johnson County prosecutor. Paul Morrison says the Mid West family who thought they legally adopted this little girl. Tiffany Stacey was duped allegedly oh by John e Robinson. So how long have you been trying for to have kids even trying for at least five years out so we started looking at options options. They kind of let it known in their family that hey you know we're. We're looking to adopt a child. Robson basically told them you. Hey I know a lawyer that does adoption work. I think we can help you out with that. This is where Robinson brought your mom made a couple phone calls from here and made mention that she was signing papers and that was the last that Eddie ever heard about your mother or you. The last time that police believe Lisa's Stacey was alive. I was going to the roadway and at that time heather was tiffany and she was just four months old. She was a baby and the police believe that had there may have been there when her mother was killed. No one knows exactly what happened. Obviously in that motel room but it's highly likely that you were right there in that room when John Merger mother if not murdered at least taken from her no one seems to know the details of what actually we happen probably witnessed her murder. MOMS probably bludgeoned to death literally the day that kids handed over to dawn. He context brother says he knows of a woman who had killed herself in a hotel room. As far is connections this baby's available so come down Tom. Literally that next day his brother and wife come in town and John Robinson without Lisa stoskopf course with that baby visual family picture in fact taken that day cam big grin on his face mouse and that may be on his Cavalli other family members. I remember that picture yeah on the day. He brought you there with your folks and you're bouncing on his knees. You know every time I look at that picture trumping. What's he thinking was Allen before he killed your mom four hours before was the day before and there is he's grinning like a Cheshire cat for that picture of course they never met the lawyer but he had the paperwork and they signed it. As far as the actual adoption papers nails fires renew perfectly legal he told his brother that would be several thousand dollars quote unquoted option fees and provided a bunch of phony to paperwork to him cleaning a certificate of adoption from the probate court and John's kind district court it for five thousand five hundred dollars. He has just made the mother disappeared and hand the child off to his brother who has no the concept of what's going on or anything. John has done. My brother was an excellent for he was an artist he he was young. We were all really a little skeptical and wondering about what's brothers role and we looked at him more and I think it became pretty obvious that breath it's horrible that this adoptive families yet no knowledge of any criminal activity relating to the adoption of baby took. They were legally adopted parents this girl but it's not illegal about the infant. The Stacey family newest Tiffany is now almost sixteen eighteen years old living somewhere in the mid west with her adoptive family after it's revealed that heather is alive and that the adoption was a complete fraud. The question becomes shoot. She remained with the robinsons adopted family or should custody begin to her. Biological family disturbed very excited that she is alive it. Maybe the family so petrified of losing their daughter. They don't WanNa. Let you what they're feeling. I don't care my daughter's. There's alive. I have a right to see her and I want to see I when I found out that tiffany actually was alive can only imagine how I would feel if I found out my mark Charles Alive things coming out. We weren't even sure the heather knew she was tiffany. At that stage mm-hmm. We now have custody question. There are several families involved. There is heather as biological mother Lisa Stacey and her family there is how those biological Father Carl Stacey and then there's Heather's adoptive family the robinsons we first reported on this story in two thousand and Chris Cuomo was the correspondent that had been assigned the story. Does my daughter know that on the live. I heard they told me yes but I don't believe that right now. I believe if she knows I'm alive. Show WanNa meet me feel that. Can you just just tell me what can you tell me. Did she have a good life. was she abused. would she look like anything. Can you tell anything what's worse fifteen years of having to deal with the loss or now knowing that your daughters out there. They're probably worse down at least fifteen years. I didn't know I I held that in now. She's alive and Carl. Stacy is angry. He wants to see his daughter and he feels he has every right Kasumi. See Her and be in her life. Lisa Stacy's family really strongly believes that they need to do what's best for heather if our granddaughter is safe in happy and these people had nothing to do with Lisa's disappearance and they've taken care of this job so we don't want to take her away but we want to know that we're family and we'd love her. Robinson's are now being very a protective over heather understandably and they're trying to do everything they can to keep her safe including not allowing her initially to have any meetings with with Lisa Stacy's family or call stacy stole worry that they'd be taking you away from US my daughter. I love you few for them. Maybe the family so petrified of losing their daughter they don't WanNa. Let you win because you hold the key I don't. I don't care about all that I care about. It's my daughter. I just WanNa meet my my daughter's alive. I have a right to see her and I wanna Russian if we're going to avoid creating a further tragedy in this incident we're GonNa have to let Heather Robinson come. I'm into this situation and meet these people on her terms. I WanNa ask you specifically about you. Connecting with your biological family to stay seized the only biological family I've had anything to do with his Lisa's and that would be her mother was thrilled. Point apparently very joyous reunion. I did love her. She taught me to not have hate in my heart. You're into forgive John because she did and I never could understand and unfortunately I did understand until after she died so I never got to have that that conversation with her mom. Did you ever have any kind of relationship with is your biological father. I had been openly asked. Don't you want to know who your biological father is. I said absolutely not why I just inside in my heart. I have a dad. I don't need another one. Don Robinson writes this incredibly touching letter to heather's biological Father Carl Stacey saying that he really wants to do what's best for his daughter and he hopes that they can all understand that and respect that asked you know how they're really wants. I know why was her mother and a shelter. Why weren't you with her. This is really absurd he ever answer the Stacey family apparently didn't make any moves to to to pull her out of the home that she grown up in the best. Interest of the child was for her to stay with the family. She'd always know eighteen years. After the murder of Lisa Stacey John Robinson finally goes to trial for the murder of three of his victims. He's facing the the death penalty but one of the most horrifying things that happened to trial the moment when prosecutors played a tape of John and one of his victims he sat up and he was straining to get a better look from the beginning and the DA said this is a death penalty case assuming death penalty case. I tried behave for many years but he's killed many many people. He's extremely accessibly dangerous not him. The courtroom was packed. All of spectators there people are talking a lot of talking back and forth and soon as he walks in surrounded. The deputies just silent. He just seemed like an ordinary man. That's why we was really really hard. I mean he came in suits every day and he just looked like somebody's bothering grandfather which he was mild. Mannered unassuming just goes to show you. A looks can be deceiving. The case was just massive over twenty three thousand pages of police reports parts. I think we ended up calling well over one hundred witnesses bill lab stuff by science in that case as far as the way John Robinson killed his victims with a hammer. We could tell that from all the autopsies during the trial will there was a lot of things that were difficult to hear about her to watch one of the things that stood out to me was a videotape keep John Robinson trout and the sexual encounter. They played that for the jury. I thought it was important for the jury see his window kind of control. He had over these women. The thirty nine minute tape was very graphic and very very explicit suzette was playing the role of the submissive person to her master and he was very cold and flat in his commands to her what to do next you control freak. He kept saying to Suzanne Trout your mind. He was obvious that he really liked being in control of women. There were a lot of jurors myself included who you know kind of turned our heads from time to time when we felt like we sane enough John Robinson during the whole trial acted like a businessman at a meeting but when that tape was plate he sat up and he was straining to get a better look at it. It was the only time asylum show any kind of interest in what was happening. I don't know if he was getting some kind of pleasure and and reliving that but that was really disturbing his wife and his daughter Christie apparently stood by him. They sat right behind him and they sat there and listened to people talk about these sexual encounters explicit sexual details. I I couldn't believe what I was hearing and she sat there so stoically and listen to this fool them the same way who fooled everybody and that's why he was so fundamentally dangerous after the prosecution was finished with their case. I can't remember how many weeks that took a the defense took. I believe half the day defense was more. I thought about saving him from the death penalty rather than saying that he was innocent. It takes jurors less than a day to hand down the verdict guilty and a few weeks later that same jury delivers a death sentence. He was such a con man he had conned. Beverly Bonner when he was in prison in Missouri. We were really afraid if he was just given life that the same thing would happen. John Robinson committed crimes in both Kansas and Missouri so he had to face criminal charges in both states after his trial wrapped up up in Kansas the case then had to be handled in Missouri and they actually offered him a deal where he pled guilty to the five murders that he would avoid Adesina since I know some people felt like they should have gone ahead in Missouri and tried to get him convicted and sentenced to death as well. L. Kansas has an executed anybody since nineteen sixty five whereas Missouri pretty routinely carried out executions so there's some thought that if he actually got convicted and sets the debt that Missouri Likely got put to death have been executed whereas Kansas appeals were still slowly moving along. I tend to think that justice was served because this had to be one of the busiest criminals with more fingers in war criminal activity than anybody written or read about so in the idea of him in an eight by ten cell for twenty three hours a day locked up on death row nothing to do has to be forward torture it I would like to that. He's experienced some suffering himself because he impose enormous amount of suffering on fellow people as part of Heather's journey to learn more about her mother Lisa. Some of her extended extended biological family came to Kansas City to meet her. We all came here to meet. Heather and we haven't seen her for like eighteen years. Even we wanted to feel the love of our family. That's why we're here good to meet. Your family didn't even know that. adver mother had a step mom and she'd met her for the first time. Do I resembled a small lot. Few New Allot Awesome Shushi Lewd you why not what I learned a lot about Lisa. I've never felt more like my mother's daughter than I have recently and she was like my best friend. I guess your mom nylons talked about that. We were GONNA marry twin brothers so your fault for after the cameras stopped rolling one of Heather's family members dropped a bomb show. It was a secret she'd been holding onto for ten years in the middle of the night prior close to one. Am I received this letter. That completely changed everything. You can imagine how. They're shocked shock when she handed a letter allegedly from Lisa saying I'm alive. heather is meeting with family members. Everything's going well and the one of Heather's family members pulled heather aside and gave her some shocking information she had been holding on to a couple of letters that she received in two thousand nine and two thousand ten was given by a family member a letter that was was apparently or supposedly written by Lisa saying that she was still alive. If they're part of you that thinks he's alive no uh if not John someone very close to John. That would have been able to assist him. This is a forty two page page typed letter from Lisa Stacey. The girl who didn't take this ladder and she is shaking and she immediately picks up the phone and call steams. Thank you for coming out. Come on in we're other letters sent to the family that we're this elaborate and pages long no no. I'm not aware of anything like that. This is the last page if he opened it starts. It's like this. Steve James who probably knows Robinson better than anybody took one look at the letter and said this is John Robinson's and since mark. This is his amount just without reading the whole thing. I just see here her last paragraph. Robinson helped me helped my daughter and he helped his brother. That's the type of self serving things that he would try and put an in his in his other letters in this supposed letter from Lisa. She writes a very convoluted story where she says she is still alive but she begs her family member not to tell anyone she is because she says her life will be put in jeopardy so this family member keeps this letter secret for ten years because she really believes that. Lisa is alive and she doesn't want to be responsible for Lisa getting hurt. I could understand how if someone else got that letter. It would be very easy to believe aw and I can see why they took the most face value because he was very good at taking the true and then manipulating in a way that you would believe that if you turn earned inner gave it to anyone else you are jeopardising Lisa's life we're in Johnson county where about meet with the district attorney and it takes the new evidence evidence that we discovered to them and see if there's anything they can do with incredibly. There's one more big twist in this. Those letters were written when John Robinson was behind bars and on death row for years. So how would he have written them. How would he have mailed bet. Did he have help. This is what the district attorney is trying to find out but in the meantime heather is left with even more unanswered questions about her mother. I traveled with Heather and Roberto to the border of Alabama Alabama and Tennessee to a graveyard where her grandmother Patricia was recently buried last year. Lisa's remains are not in that at seminary. There's a headstone that was placed there in honor of Lisa. Everyone needs final resting place. Everyone needs to to be known whether where they lie and if we are able to find says mains wants to have her laid to rest with with her mother to bring the family whole again. What is your feeling empty defeated because I thought by the time I came back here would be bearing my mother's remains. Heather is painfully aware that underneath that beautiful headstone her mother is not a bear I think she cried tears that she needed to cry from her past twenty years race. She finally left those walls. Come down and she allowed herself to feel. I had hoped that now only was this journey to help me finances about Lisa. I wanted to try to heal and give closure to everyone else. That was was involved. I want to openly speak about my mother. I want everyone to know least sexist. I will never stop trying to find her. I will never stop heather continues her search because John Robinson refuses to give up the location of her mother her and two other victims and we should also point out that Robinson is now appealing from death row but I have to say amy how brave it was for her to come forward and to speak all these years later yet. She just wants answers really powerful that is twenty two thousand for tonight. I'm David Muir Ami robot for all of us here at twenty twenty good night. Is there something that interferes interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling. Is there for you connect with their professional counselor and a private online environment environment scheduled secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist listeners. Get Ten percent off your first month by going to better help dot com slash twenty twenty. That's two zero two zero.

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22:07 min | 3 weeks ago

TBD | Seduced by Substack

"Charlie elle's first day as an internet content creator did not get off to the smoothest of starts. I like okay like crack your knuckles like it's to go in a start day. One as an entrepreneur. It was tuesday. And charlie had just left a job as an opinion writer at the new times to start a newsletter only laptop. I with the times laptop eggs like i get like another day out of this opened it out but it was just like completely wiped dislike locked like enter it. You know administrator passcode as like and his subscribers many of whom are shelling out. Six dollars a month or sixty five a year. We're expecting post day one. You gotta like deliver for these people who are now paying you money to subscribe to you. Know your publication Opened up my phone. I just started like all right. Let's blog asli blogging from my phone. So so yeah. We're galaxy brain is off to a roaring start. Galaxy brain is the name of charlie's newsletter. It comes from this meam with a picture of a brain and a series of expanding thoughts each one more grandiose and ludicrous than the next unlike a lot of things on the internet. It's a meam about the internet and how it gets into our heads. It's a joke but it's also sort of not that duality mirrors charlie's life right now. He's been thinking and writing about the internet for years including about how people monetize themselves online in new and different ways and now he's decided to monetize himself online in new and different way leaving traditional media the new york times to write a newsletter for sub stack the latest hot platform. So i i've been doing a lot of reporting in the last couple of months in the times around like the attention economy and just detention as a subject general and that kind of led me to thinking a lot and doing all the reporting around creators. And and i kinda felt like they were to some degree. Creators are like the canaries in the content minds. Right like there's sort of like are subject to a lot of these online dynamics that a lot of us are going to be subject to the normal people. And i wanted to some degree to do this as an experiment. 'cause i'm writing about it like to live in that world as i cover it today on the show like charlie are walking away from perfectly good jobs and going it alone online. I'm lizzie o'leary and you're listening to what next show about technology power and how the future will be determined. Stick with us. This episode is brought to you by progressive one of the country's leading providers of auto insurance with progressives. Name your price tool you say what kind of coverage you're looking for and how much you wanna pay at progressive. We'll help you find options that fit within your budget. Use the name your price tool and starting online quote today at progressive dot com pricing coverage match limited by state law over the past few years. I've started to feel like everyone. I know has a newsletter summer about parenting some recommendations for what to read or watch a lot of them are free but there are a few that i pay five or six bucks a month for and that last part that people are willing to pay for content. The feels personal and considered is something that silicon valley investors have latched onto consider sub. Stack the company that charlie is publishing his newsletter through it started in two thousand seventeen and is now valued at six hundred fifty million dollars. There are thousands of subsc newsletters and reportedly millions readers part of subjects plan. According to one of its main investors is at the promise of money and editorial freedom would make people like charlie jump. I think honestly most people listening to this would think giving up a steady job even if we take the new york times out of this equation giving up any steady job with name recognition health insurance good benefits to take a gamble on the internet by yourself is bananas. Why did you do it. I did it. Because i think that really happened for me. Was that like my a lot of my priorities change And and i started to get really kind of burned out by the news. New cycle and i started noticing that things like gravitating towards as a writer were quieter or a little bit like off the news and i would write those things and i would get this great feedback from google. It would speak to them in some way or start this conversation. We'd have these great offline. Conversations was difficult to harness them. And i just felt like that there was something there that there is kind of like a yearning for stuff. That was a little off the ball. Like that. there's so much just Like a deluge of mutes right and what people want is is that contacts in. it's not always fitting that like that closing new cycle window frame And it just fully chasing audience after a while. I saw you use that phrase in something that you had written about this. And i guess i i understand that impulse and i'm trying to square it with the idea of then starting a thing on your own which requires so much work and you know to another degree chasing a different kind of audience. An audience of paying subscribers leeann. I wonder how you think about that. I think i was. I was burned out in a in a in specific kind of way of having to pay things to a very specific conversation. But i'm not burned out is like building something that i think has long and sustaining value. There's this Twitter streamer hassan. Piker who. I've talked to a bunch. And when i first met him went on his stream and there's like fifty thousand people on it and it's just crazy like stream of comments but he has dislike discord channel and inside it. He and his audience are constantly like building his show every day. Like it is totally collaborates. They're like telling him what they want him to talk about. Showing him interesting things like challenging him. He's challenging bam. It's a very interesting sort of form of audience and like journalists or creator. Pundit interaction. And i think that saying it's the future of whatever like but it's it's fascinating. I wanna talk about the specifics of sub stack for a second because it feels like it's everywhere and part of that is it's because it's disrupting our business the media business. But it's not just that i mean one of the biggest stars on stack. Is heather cox richardson. Who's nestorian what is sub stack. Doing right well. I mean what they're doing right is also maybe to some degree what they're doing wrong. Which is they're kind of staying out of it to some degree right so you know. I didn't take a deal right. I didn't take any advance. You didn't take one of these sub stacked pros where they give you a big bunch of money up front and in return for that subset keeps a lot of revenue on the back end rare that first year right so i didn't sign a contract like i didn't i had a conversation basically with with some people and it was kind of like if i did this. What would it look like what you know. What kind of resources do i need up front. It was the weirdest sort of leg ghetto taking a job. Kinda think you could take because you really weren't doing it. It was incredibly hands off. You know it was like we'll give you some resources in terms of best practices and they're paying for their subsidizing some healthcare for me which is important but like very hands off. This is the freedom that so enticing to so many people and is one of the reasons that big names like glenn greenwald or advice columnist. Heather heather leschi or sleet zone. Dear prudence danny lavery have launched their own newsletters. Part of the pitch is that stack gives writers the infrastructure to publish process payments if someone charges for the newsletter sub stack takes a cut ten percent other than that they let writers do what they want. And then let the raiders. Specific audiences find them was talking to somebody who runs a very very niche technical kind of sub stack for a specific industry. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say who but they were like i was never at my old publication allowed to write long explainers about like x. Technical weird thing in every time they do it now their posts go huge huge out external traffic their beloved by the subscribers Nets them a ton of kate subscribers like they're making great money and it's this weird thing that's like this would be sort of the opposite of newsworthiness you know So i think what they're doing right. Is there like letting people do the thing that they find really interesting and kind of staying out of it to that degree also in some sense. That's why they're in trouble. Subjects been criticized on two fronts. I the company is paying several high profile writers six figures upfront in those subject pro deals other writers who don't get those deals have to build a paying audience themselves without the company cash. The other part of this though goes back to the freedom thing substance. Let's controversial people say controversial things about trans issues. Feminism race and free speech and controversy gets traffic. The idea is if you're staying out of it. If you're not say in their editing for accountability say or for letting your creators be kind of as controversial as they wanna be. That gets them attention. That's good for the bottom line but is it. I dunno capital g good. Yeah that that. I don't know i'm like i'm very. I'm very conflicted about about a lot of it right and yet you decided to go for it In a sense. Because like i am going to be accountable to myself in this like i am doing. I'm doing my thing. But i'm really interested in building a community and doing work that is meaningful and helps people understand. A lot of these dynamics enforces at one to build a place for like civil disagreement for iterative ideas for unpacking complex subjects. Like i have this desire to to do this thing. And i think that that is a net good for the internet like. I'm trying to build the internet. I want and i understand that is requiring me to leverage a platform. That has people on it that i don't agree with and who espoused views that i don't agree with. I don't know that you can ever be like perfectly moral on the internet. And so i think that the opportunity for me to build i want to build. I think that outweighs taking a moral stand on a platform with tens of thousands of people on. There's also money in it. If charlie signs up just one thousand yearly subscribers that sixty five thousand dollars minus expenses and sub tax cut and other raiders moved to sub stack are reportedly making well into the six figures after the break who has the power here. Creators are platforms. Well there are so many great podcasts out there new checkout pivot the webby and iheart winner for best business podcast hosted by journalist cara swisher and nyu professors scott. Galloway pivot is critically acclaimed for its approach toward tech media and their wider influence on culture politics and the economy. Every tuesday and friday karen scott unravelled the week's top stories to explore. What's happening what comes next and what it all means for you. Listen to pivot from new york magazine on apple spotify. or wherever. You get your podcasts. It's not just substance of course in the past few years there's been an explosion of ways to make money from your personal brand amman patriotic on tiny letter ghost instagram tiktok youtube cameo so many different platforms to monetize that inner thought creative choreography or everyday related ability. There's this concept from the founding editor of wired kevin. Kelly called thousand true fans. And i don't know how familiar you are with this but i feel like it gets to the heart of what you're doing and his ideas you don't need millions of dollars you don't need millions of customers like to make a living as a whatever you need a thousand two fans and those people will follow you and pay for that. I actually spoke to kevin about this in Who where he thought it was going and i think he feels pretty vindicated by. What's happening right now. Because i think. I just think that this crater economy is maturing towards towards that end towards having small group of people who care a lot about you and who can sort of support your work. I think it's great. I think that it's it's a sort of a healthier more version of the internet. But i also think it is still mediated through platforms. Well if you're a creator what do you do with that. Because even if you're supposedly independent you can't be utterly divorced from the platform without you know showing up at somebody's house and just talking at them. I think you came up with the future right. It's just like singing telegrams but with influencers like doing doc dances. I've been thinking a little bit about about this. But i'm fascinated by the idea that we're probably going to see not like traditional unionization but i think we're gonna see some kind of collective creator action in ways that we haven't before at some point and i think that there's a way in which you competitive tilt your head and squint and look at some of what is through these labor lenses and you can say like it's it's super messed up if these creators come to this platform bring just tons of people with amassed huge audiences make these platforms tons of money into the platform. Say hey you know. We're going to tweak piece of our algorithm and we're gonna you know cut your revenue by forty percent right. That's like a kind of taxation without representation Agreed to those terms and especially as the income streams diversify. And maybe less reliant on one platform the other when something like that happens. I think you're gonna start seeing people band together and say like. Hey you know me to some degree. We have to go where the eyeballs are but in another sense. We have a little more power here than we thought. Charlie has been mulling over the idea that maybe creators could take their thousand true fans and refuse to be captive to a platforms recommendation algorithm. What if creator say like hey like you have to be transparent about your algorithms or relieving some sense of what's going on and hey we've banded together and hey we formed this organization. We're gonna take our stuff elsewhere. I just think that it's it's possible that link some of these issues could get solved that way. You mentioned this idea of creator middle class and it's something that this venture capitalists legion wrote about. You've talked with her about it. Any wonder how we do solve this problem. The idea that there are the people who get the huge payouts upfront where the massive subscriber base is and. Then you know the idea that someone on spotify needs three and a half million streams per year to just get the equivalent of minimum wage. Where where does the potential middle come from. Any one thing that is just the huge glaring hole in all of this is the london. American fact that healthcare is tied to your job to diet to employment like. It's just it's going to be a massive probable for anyone who wants create a a freelance lifestyle out of this. Because then you're gonna have to you know i. It's it's so precarious it. It also is like it's the big rights to be hurdle preventing of people from taking a leap who otherwise you know could this. I'm i'm really fascinated by the future of this. Because i mean this is a big industry. This being created on the internet and the influenced industry. you know like i was talking to a person who runs a big company that tried to help influence caught of valet. Like it's crazy to watch this play out in like every industry right like the best dental surgeon right like if they have a massive following on tiktok just showing people with teeth like it helps their practice right which has nothing to do with being a good creator but like the influence our worldly impacts everything else being influencers like the number one most desired career right now for like young people so like how are we making that sustainable for them if that is their american dream quote unquote enters a massive hole in it. People didn't take influencers or creators. Seriously until pretty recently people thought is like kids sticking around on the internet right. But i think we're starting to see that it is. It's a viable path for certain people. It's a really desirable path and it's not going anywhere. Do you ever worry that. The bottom's going to drop out. It's it's scary right leg. It's the risk is part of the excitement and part of the reason to do it. Two ways of looking at it right now. One is that. Like i said there is going to be a certain point where people are like. I can't pay seven hundred dollars a month for bunch of journalists and mike than they will look at something like the new york times. You'd be like all you employ fourteen hundred journalists and it cost me five ninety nine a month. That's a pretty good deal. Soy icy i get that. And i think that could happen but also i think that most like human beings out in the world probably don't subscribe to a single sub stack and probably barely know what it is when and how you're gonna know if this is working coming. One is obviously lake checking in after a year. But i don't think this is ever going to be a failure. And the reason why i say that is like right now. I'm on any mail lists like i'm building out a group of people who care about this and i'm going to work my ass off to continue to be in conversation with them and build their trust and that relationship isn't gonna go away because they didn't make a lot of money because i'm not in it to become you know mega millionaire or something like that or the king of my content entire i. I'm in it. Because i want to. I want to deepen my relationship with people who care about the things that i care about. I don't know that. I can sail in a specific way like fully fail. Charlie wars. thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Charlie wars l. writes the newsletter galaxy. Brain all right. That's the show. Tvd is used by. Ethan brooks and edited by alison benedict and tori bosh. Lisa montgomery is the executive producer for sleep podcasts. Td is part of the larger. What next family. And it's also part of future tests a partnership of slate arizona state university and new america. I wanna recommend you go back and listen to thursday's episode of what next. It helped me understand. The concerns around the johnson and johnson co vaccine and put them in context. All right. what next week back on monday have a good weekend. I'm lizzie. o'leary thanks for listening.

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A New Life: How small steps led to big changes

Healthy Living with Lamia

22:38 min | 2 years ago

A New Life: How small steps led to big changes

"Hello and welcome to healthy living with lemme powered by a mix health. My name is let me assure Zinger, I'm the owner and founder of AmEx help if you're interested in living a healthy lifestyle. Whether you've been doing so for years or you're just beginning your journey today. This podcast is going to be for you every episode we tackle a topic in the world of health and help you take the steps that are necessary to live your best life. Today's episode were interviewing one of AmEx helps original clients at major success story, Heather Heather has lost eighty three pounds and twenty five inches during her time with a mex- how she went from a tired insecure individual who never end and surely wasn't happy with her life to an active engaged mother of three energetic boys and a runner a five races with goals of many more to come as she happily shops for a whole new wardrobe listen in as she share. Does your struggles successes and her support for others who are in the shoes she used to wear when she began her journey just twenty two months ago? All right. Heather, why don't you? Go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself. I am thirty six I grew up in fair for high. I have three sons married been married for ten years. I have an eight seven and two year old. They're all very active. Keep me busy. And I work fulltime on top of that. So I'm constantly on the go. What's your job paralegal? So are you sitting of most of the day? Yes. Okay. So your typical job. Yes. In an office at a desk type all day. Okay. And what has been your total weight loss and over what time span has been. I've lost eighty three pounds in twenty two months. Awesome. And then when you look back think about when you first started to really gain weight when was that it was when I got pregnant with my first son I had. Had to be on a steroid for like, four months of my pregnancy. And I gained a lot of my weight when I was pregnant with him. And then I got pregnant shortly after I had him with my second. So I didn't have time to get the weight off and it just spiraled out of control from there. And then after I had my second one, they're seventeen months part. I I just could never get it off. I tried many different diets what are some of the diets that you've tried before? I did beach body the twenty one day fix the Atkins diet it I even resorted to try and diet pills. I would you know, try to exercise here there. But would never stick to anything. And I just never saw any weight loss with any of it. So I would just give up and go right back to the way. I was eating the way. I was I wouldn't I just go right back to how I was living life before even when I was pregnant I just. I think I then we had personal issues going on. And I ran a food for that. So that was how I handle so food was your comfort. Yes, you are stressed when you're upset was there any type of food that you would turn to or preferred in those times now just anything, and when you ate do you feel like you're you're eating was out of control. It was not a control, and I would sit at a desk all day, and I had I was bored. You know, a lot of time. So I would just grab something and eat it and. I'd have been didn't matter what it was. And didn't. So you identify with eating out of boredom as well as for motion comfort. Yes, I think that's very common with the under Digital's. Yeah. So you hinted a little bit at it. But wouldn't you were at your heaviest what was life like for you on a day-to-day basis? How did you feel what was your self esteem like? I was tired. I was always in pain. I remember my feet hurting so bad when I would just walk. I felt like my feet were always throbbing. I was chasing kids and tired ran out of energy half the time trying to chase them. I was miserable. I you know, I was miserable in my marriage. I felt like I just looked horrible the time. I hated going out in public. I didn't wanna do anything. I just wanted to stay at home. I would not socialize with anybody. And did you awake at anytime? Try to hide yourself in different. Like, did you darker colors bag your clothes compared to what you do now? Yes. And I always had to wear just bagging clothes and make sure where something underneath that to try to hide everything as much as I could. And then I realized at one point when I was in my largest size. I was like this is just out of control. I've got to do something. How many sizes have dropped until? Eight ties awesome. And I mean when we first met you wouldn't wear shorts. You wouldn't wear leggings. Nope. And now you'll wear both and not feel self conscious while you do. Hopefully. So you got some good legs. Now. So we talked about kind of the difference Deitz tried. Why did you feel like they didn't work? It was too much work to put into it, especially twenty one day fix. I did not have the time to Porsche out my food figure out what I can have each day. I just didn't have time to do that with two little kids, you know, under two I didn't make time for myself. It was all about my kids. And so and then I did the Athens. And that's just not I just couldn't do it. I was like, oh, yeah. Let's cut out all carbs in the bread. And I just I wasn't going to do that. But the main thing was time and the things that I that I was doing it just wasn't Tena Bill. I couldn't keep up with it. And then what about exercise you did exercise some I would I would try to say, yeah. Get into walk here and there but now on a regular basis. No, I would never exercise because you were conscious conscious. I didn't have the motivation. I would use my kids as an excuse. I would wanna stay, you know, I'll be like, oh, I have to do this. And I have to. I didn't I didn't put myself I for a long time after I had my kids. It was all about them. And then you take that takes focus away from your marriage, and then your marriage start society wanna try to get back to get that back in order everything sites. I think those are some key huge point than probably a lot of women can identify with not putting yourself I feel guilty. If you do. Thinking that you know, you have to send your world or on your kids. Yeah. I think that's huge. So recently, it's been within the last two years. You've completely changed. What was a it? What was the light bulb moment? What made it switch in work that all those other times didn't. Well, I was at my heaviest when I got pregnant with my third, and so I was so scared because I thought, nah, I'm going to gain even more weight in be at my heaviest that I've ever been in because growing up I didn't have to deal with this. I deal with my weight gain until I started getting pregnant, but it was after I had my son in two thousand sixteen I had met you at that point. And we'd had just discussions, and I was like I've got to do something. I was just tired of looking at myself in the mirror and how heavy I was. I was tired of it. And we met we discuss just diet change alone. At that point. We weren't talking Cise and just by doing those little things I started seeing weight loss. I lost like thirty pounds just without any exercise, just by diet only. I don't know. I said, well, I. Started wanting to start to exercise and get into running. And I started doing that. And then again seeing changes the way coming off, and I could do this. And I just haven't been able to stop sense. Like, I I actually enjoy it now for some ever thought I would enjoy exercising as much as I do your hooked yet. You you exercise four to five days a week. And I mean, you do a variety of things it's not the same all the time. But let's brag on you little bit. Because you went from never running, right? You were not a runner ever. And then in you started the journey was I guess the winter of seventeen and then February of eighteen you did your first five K. Yes. Yes. And then you did your first ten K in April. Yes. And then. Then in October. You did your first half. Yes. Followed by the month later three weeks, later, a second half second half. Yes. So within a time span of about a year, you have from not running at all not even walking on regular basis to running after marathon to within a month of each other. And that's a mazing and this year already you have what three plan jets three halves and then other races as well. So you come from, you know, at that time what you were like thirty five thirty four when you first started not like you're an eighteen year old. You've had three kids had a kid that that time was one ish. And now you have achieved all these goals that people often say I could never do. Right. Right. So what made you change from IT? Can't do this to an I can do this mindset. What do you think is that was that because it had to come down to having some self esteem? Finally, right. Yeah. I saw all this week come off. And it was amazing. How much better I felt like I felt like I could keep it up, and I could do all of it. Plus, I had my kids watching me. I mean, my oldest is was seven six seven at the time. You know, and he saw me doing it. And he would make comments, and I just knew that if I didn't wanna stop and I. You just have to tell yourself you can do this. And by the kids watch everything you do. And so I just had to keep pushing myself. It's not been easy. It was hard work. But if you tell yourself, you can do it you can do it. And no matter your size your age. You can do it. Do you ever still have days where it's hard? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Thursdays. His as I don't want to do it. But I tell myself just you're going to have an a few days you'll have a day off. And then that after that day comes I'm like, okay. Let's do this again. Like, I'm ready. I can't imagine it not being a part of my life at this point. Which is crazy. I think about from where it was almost two years ago. So talk about your diet. What has changed are you currently on a diet? Not not would not do. I've. Changed a lot of eating habits. I've cut back my portions. I cut out pop. I drink a lot more water than I was drinking main thing is just watching what I eat just small little changes. Which was what you've told me from the very beginning. You just gave me small changes to make we cook at home a lot more. I try to just keep healthier options around for everybody. And sometimes they don't like that. Tried to eat a lot more fruits and vegetables is the main thing that I I'm vegetables I struggled with growing up. But now I love him and can like go without him at a meal. I pretty much have them every night for dinner, but portions were my main because I used to just portions I could just eat Nate Nate once you cut back it makes it a lot easier. So you're not starving you feel satisfied. Yeah. Now, I had to teach myself because the more I've worked out I had to teach myself that you need to eat a little more. I have noticed that you're entitled goes up and you get hungry. And so I have to tell myself you need to eat, and I've had teach myself how to reach for a healthy snack in what healthy snacks. There are what actions. I have. That's one thing. I've noticed I am hungry working out more, but what your favorite healthy snack? You're gonna laugh, but I will run vegetables before around anything else, and you just do frozen bag microwave, it did you put anything on it? Nope. Just eat it that you love it. Now, I love not even out salt on it, but almonds I love to just have a handful almonds. That's the one because I let crunch but. Yeah vegetables is the one thing I really try to run to. That's great. That's really good. What's the hardest thing though about changing your lifestyle? The one thing. I the hardest thing was being away from my family's much as I've been away from that was the one thing I struggled with in the beginning to exercise to exercise when I was training for the half. You know, I was gone through four days a week running or exercising and trying to get my whole family on board with it, which they've been awesome. My husband's veer been very supportive of it. But that was the main thing that I struggled with and then there are days. Sometimes I'm like, I could just go back. But no, I you know, I have to tell myself, look how far you've come. And you've done a lot in a short period of time, and you've made great progress. So what's been the most enjoyable part of the process seen? Oh shopping and see the difference shopping has been buying new clothes. I mean being down in the size. I am from what I was. That's been the best and seen the transfer. Like I actually enjoy going out and getting. You know, because I have to dress up everyday for work. So I've had to buy a whole new order for you know, work and personal. But now half my wardrobe is workout clothes at this. But race t shirts. Generously shirts that's been the most enjoyable though. Yeah. It's always fun. So when you do get discouraged the biggest thing for us just to look back and say, look, how far you come and to keep pushing because of that. Yeah. And there are times when I'll have a bad workout and be like, but no it wasn't because I have to look back and think I couldn't do that. When I first started. And now I'm doing that plus more. So it's just you know, I have days, and then I'll return on you'll be like, okay? But Heather, look what you've done, and I have to tell myself that now that you've kind of met your weight loss goal and you've done these races. Do you have another goal or you setting other goals in the future? Now, I just wanna get faster my races maintaining is going to be a struggle. That's one thing I'm going to struggle with. But I think just trying to better myself in these races and getting beating the previous times that I've have now I've got goals for those. And actually, you know, I'm running five ks ten cases sheer. So my goal is to just be the every time, you know, from previous one that Iran. So what's your favorite food when you is? Is it vegetables? Would you say it's shuttles? Yeah. It's my favorite snack. It's amazing. That's great. I mean, especially combat. Yeah. No, two two and a half years ago. If you said that to yourself. Yeah. I would have random bag potato chips or just something completely unhealthy. But now, I'm like oh care. You know, any kind of Estelle that you can. Out what I would not. That's what I would prefer. I don't even miss any of that. And what's your favorite exercises at running? It's probably running. Yeah. But I really enjoy the weight training too. But the running this is I feel like that is the best for me. I think that was the one thing that helped get a lot of my weight off all the cardio, and it wasn't that you were super fast, or I mean, you started out walking most of it and running for a little bit like thirty seconds time. And then my at that point. I was like, okay, I wanna run a mile. So I would I ran a whole mile and that was like huge, and then I would run a mile walk for a little bit. And then I run two miles. And so it would just baby step it up until my longest run. I ever did. Right before the half without walking was like nine miles and. I just couldn't believe like how you go from. Running walking. And then I mean, Iran most of the half in October last year. I only walked maybe thirty seconds of the whole, you know, minute of the whole race. So that's important. Now that wanna make it clear that it's not easy, right? It's still not easy. No. It's a lot of work. But it is something that you felt you ready for you. You made that switch in your head and your mind to live to choose to live this healthy lifestyle. Right. And you continue to make that choice writing. I think so often people see. Okay. Well, you've lost the weight. So it's easy. Right. But it still a daily thing. Oh, yeah. Maintaining I feel like is going to be harder than actually losing the weight. And I still struggle won't. You know, when I run I still have as on like, oh, my gosh is this ever over. But yeah, maintains going to be the hardest thing now, but. Yeah. I just tried you wait for how long probably six six to eight weeks. Yeah. So great start in for that make. Yes. Yeah. And you know, I go up, you know, oh few pounds and I'll go back down. But that's just I think yet, but always be range. Yeah. Some possible stay with one especially as a female you have yet. So last question is, you know, if there's people out there that's sitting too. And they're at the beginning of joining or not even really starting at during yet. What advice would you have for those that are either wanting to start it or starting at in or feeling discouraged? What advice you have for them for the things that you've gone through? Start with small changes just start small and say, you can do it. If it's cutting something out like in your diet. Then do that just make small changes in take it slow. And don't ever say, you can't do it because you can again, no matter your age, your weight, nothing. It won't stop. You just make a goal. And if it's it doesn't have to be anything crazy long-term just if it's a short term goal in. That's the make that. But do whatever you feel like you need to do until yourself that you can do it. Because I told myself I was going to run a half, and I was going to run a half. And I told people that I was going to do it. And that help me accountable. You know, my kids knew I was going to do it. My husband, and I wasn't going to let them down. I was going to do it. And you've motivated your mom, and your grandmother, and they're both trying to change their lifestyle exercising with eating and as well as a lot of your friends have been inspired by journey. Right. I even had my husband ran a half with me. Yeah. Unless. Let's make this clear. He is not air owner not. But he did he did it to be supportive with me. I didn't have to run it by myself. And now he's running again with me this year. So that's amazing. So not only have you changed your life. But you've changed others lives. Just by deciding to make yourself little healthier, you're helping others. That's mazing. I had to do this for my kids to I was just I was just tired of being miserable time. So those good, congratulations. Thank you everything. Thank you for sitting down with me. I hope you enjoyed the interview with Heather and took a lot away from what she said there was some huge key points that she mentioned that can apply to anyone no matter where they are on their journey. She was in your shoes where you may be right now, she's tired. She was uncomfortable with herself and she had tried and failed before, but she had decided to keep going keep trying and took that first step and started making those small changes. Remember each change has to be something you can maintain to be sustainable to be forever in you have to still be in your everyday life. As a mom as a wife as a daughter as a sister, whatever it may be in your job if you make too big of changes, it's not going to stick. So make sure you make those changes that work for you and your life where you are right now. Now, no matter how small that step is because remember small steps will lead to big changes. Oh, man.

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R.L. Stine's The Snowman

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R.L. Stine's The Snowman

"A cold blooded killer. Let's go podcasts. Rl Stein the snowman. Welcome to increase the PODCAST that discusses trashy teen horror. I'm one of your host Lindsay. GEHT die I'm not the one of your hosts Kelly nugent and today they were talking about. Rl Stein this snowman. A point horror the point horror book. Yeah what what what what was that. So what do you want to read the back of the book. Yeah I do I. I'm sorry I got distracted because because I started reading because it's let it snow. Let it snow. Let it dot dot dot heather. Heather feels cold board there. Yeah Heather feels cold all the time. No she doesn't alone. Her Guardian hates her. He liked to see her dead. He'd like all her money but for now he settles for controlling it and making heather's life miserable poor little rich girl just like Cinderella. Then the gorgeous ice ace blond guy shows up at the crummy restaurant where heather works after school. He understands about heather. He's Prince charming. No one can get together now. Heather Heather feel so safe so loved so warm. Data dot eight never talks about other being cold all the time. She's not called all the time. That's not a thing. She lives with her uncle and her aunt. Yeah she's lived with him since she was three right weird. Yeah it's weird because because it feels like they have a relationship that's like renew. Yeah I thought that too and I thought that from the back of the book yeah that it was like her parents just died ride. Gee just got sent to the Guardian. I thought it was going to be a bigger saying of him trying to get rid of her he just like his mean he just mean I mean just mean and like she thinks maybe he stealing her money but like that is not how trust funds work they will be very specific way. Nobody else can in touch that money. Yeah it also shows an Acetate. Yeah he's not. He's not trying to take her money. He doesn't let her spend her money. Yeah but like. She doesn't get it until a certain age. That's also trust funds work. She's not eighteen yet. Ah Question Mark Yeah She's not alone she's got a boyfriend and a best friend yeah Her boyfriend is Ben Ben and her best friend. Is Kim Cam who as Chunky. Yeah and when we first meet her wearing so many sweaters that she looked almost round. Yeah Classic Trope And for some reason he seems really focused on the fact that Kim's voices like raspy yeah. It's a very unique and horse and raspy. He just talks about it all the time. It has no bearing on anything. No you know what else did not have any bearing on anything. I do not think. Think correct me if I'm wrong so okay now what you're about to say. When she gets into the car with Ben he's trying to put on a seat belt and he's a lot of trouble buckling uh-huh and then he has a lot of trouble taking it out design? have any okay because I saw it. I was like maybe no. That's not what I thought you were about. That would be weird because that is so nothing. Yeah like so at the beach so it never gets used never ever in. I just remember reading at me like Oh that would be a good place to like. He is very specific about I. It's very specific. Be Like Oh and then no. She's just like annoyed with him because she feels guilty. Yeah for agree to the date. With Snow Snowman Snowman Snowman Okay so we start off the book. She's making out with Ben. In Ben's car article comes out shames. Her calls her a tramp makes her go inside. She's mad. She goes to work at the diner at the mall that she works at. She sees her friend friend. Came Real Quick Kim leaves. She hates her life. Enter Snowman Snowman is not. Do you want to read what we picture no at all. No because the book is called the Snowman has a picture of a snowman on it. Yes so you would think oh maybe snowman. I think maybe we because of the fact that we read the stranger and it turns out the a stranger was a cave. Yeah I thought maybe he was going to be a snowman snowman. Well especially because but no. He's he is in fact a murderer like we thought the stranger was going to be. Yeah and he's a murderer His okay so she's like waiting tables At her job which she hates and This like really intriguing. Young man catches her attention. And this is how it begins. Oh sorry I didn't mean to scare you. Heather stared at the boy waiting for her heart to stop pounding because he had the most amazing hair. It was pure white not blonde not silver pure white it. It was parted in the middle and fell in waves down to his caller. It was even more startling because the boys features were dark. His skin was ready almost hand. His eyes were dark brown. He had the most adorable cleft in his Chen. Heather just stared at him. He may have been the most handsome boy. She never Seen this description Joanna saw hideous either join us on like long long here Robert Durst like like short guys and like white and Tan. And he's totally. Yeah ten with Dirk feature tanny white hair long white hair Julian in forbidden gain. No no this is hand boy who should have brown hair or black hair. Yeah but he has white hair even unlike long white hair. Yeah men little me like because she kept being like the white hair and the black is. I was like literally picturing like snow. You kept saying like any. Where's red scammers scarf? And he's like people. We'll call me snowman and I was like what people who like. Also he was so much of a weird fake red herring that like it worked. We shocked when he turned out to be bad because he was like. I understand you and all of his he was nothing nothing but nice all the time and also his lies were very obviously faked like he was like listen. My parents aren't around and like my dad. Used to be like your uncle but I took take care of him anyway. And you're like Oh you kill them. Yeah and MOM's a nurse. My mom and my brother is sick with the kidney thing that I can't tell you what it is. Also he keeps making her buy him lunch and he's like oh I just don't have my wallet and and she's like that's okay. You can pay me back later. And then he takes on a date and then he's like Oh let's go on the date and then at the date he's like I can't pay okay and she's like that's okay. I'll pay for it and he's like thanks. Well in that instance they just split it they do just split it so yes some money. I thought it was weird to set up this pattern of. She pays for everything but then in that moment like no they split it is what it and then he's like by the way my brother's there's really sick and he's way kidney ono a kidney thing. A Kit yes thing. That's sad do you want me to pay for it. I couldn't possibly I could. It's just I'd here in my account. He's stopped I have two thousand dollars. It's not even a part of my trust fund. I mean it's crazy. That two eight hundred dollars would be enough to pay for it but no you know what how I need to go after go. Okay Ring Ring. Well I was thinking about it. Yeah think about what sorry I should my brother. He has a kidney right. How is he is not good? It's really bad I'm really. I'm so sorry I hate to do this. Yeah I need the two thousand dollars. Absolutely thank you so much. Here's a check you for some reason. Leave the memo part blank. Okay I was going to rape kidney thing no you should put actually put like secret okay. Secret put like secret task. Okay okay do you want me to draw a little knife next to it. Yes yeah just do that or a gun yet. Do Cute Gun do you do Like a Scarlett O.. Strangling somebody okay a hurt a scarf. The stranglings scarf around a heart. Yeah but strangling the heart. Okay this makes sense. I killed your uncle now. Everyone's going to pay me because incriminating check of questions. Why why would I do this? Why and no answers? How long have you been planning this? I want me is a big question since I I like thank you I did like you and then I met your uncle in the way that he was back talking you. I thought that was really unacceptable. Remind me of my dad who used to abuse me. Who used to beat you with a bike chain and title? I bled in the garage and yelled and my route uncle. You're rude uncle reminded me of that. Yeah I mean he is rude but like so I okay but like back okay. I strangled him with my scarf. Okay my right eye garf- yeah because I'm a snowman. Oh man here's a question so okay so we'll table will table white me. Okay sure if I could just lasko how how did you know I would pay two thousand dollars for the surgery I here. Here's the thing is you seem to know that because it was a huge part of your plan I tested your giving nece. You're right January generally from like burgers. That's the true lighter Hitman Burgers to Hitman Burgers to kidney. I guess I mean I guess since I did it it. It makes sense as a progression using to spend your money. You've been burning. Spend your money because you're a bitch uncle won't let you spend it. It's true I mean you want to spend it on me Freeman okay. There's no man's brothers kidney so okay I guess what. I don't have a brother. Oh Oh that was a trick. Oh I wanted to frame you I wanted to. So there's nothing wrong with his kidneys doesn't exist. Oh guess what though what you better be some more money I'm just GONNA keep hanging around if any more money but this time Samuel Go away take out nine thousand dollars in cash. Oh but that's not what you asked take got nine thousand dollars another another check two thousand dollars another thousand dollar check and I'll get out of your life forever I promise. Oh Oh okay okay are you could buy for good bye bye. I why am hear her what you said you were going to go away. I know I lied right me. GimMe cash thousand dollars. Oh how much nine seven. No nive live what. 'cause I actually event I I ask you that many times no is no 'cause five was too. Yeah eventually. It's nine okay. Because they gave you accept that it's not it's only seven thousand one two thousand dollar check over my seven thousand dollars okay in cash so it knows five five thousand dollars but in the end after you've asked me for this I will miscount okay. Okay so so yeah. I'll okay so come with me to the bank. Then we'll give you five thousand dollars in cash to hide though. Sure while you do that. That makes sense. Okay give me the money now. Okay but now you're going to go away forever on issue. God I've got all I needed. Sorry Okay Aren't you happy. I killed your uncle. You know it's exactly like my dad. Who we it was an abuser? And your uncle's mean but us. Rude would you please just like leave with my money. Okay goodbye forever by. Hey roomy your aunt gave me a room no You know what I use the money you gave me to pay for rent. No have have you ever so you gave my aunt. Yeah your hand has your money now. Okay I like but I like my aunt well not grant. You seem to genuinely like you're because guess what she actually asked me questions. She pays attention to me. She likes me and I like her. I like her cooking. I I love to eat everything even when your bitch ass dead uncle is asking me if I want to eat the plate to. Yeah so actually. I'm glad that you brought this up about. I'm man because I had a question and this kind of ties into me asking you why So do you remember that part of the book when you weren't there and and my bitch dead uncle was talking about how your hair is so crazy white. Yeah and then my aunt said something cryptic about about her about her sister or somebody having white hair like that and being out for her and she's like poor we're Andrea. Yeah are you related to her. No okay what you could be could be. I guess you could be but we never address it. This could be on down. 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You didn't enroll in my school. Came to my diner when you asked me about. Like what home room I was in. I was tripping because I don't even know what to say and then I really provided the answer which was easy. 'cause like there's tall teachers. Yeah I was Kinda fucked fuck though because then you're like Mr so and so and I was like yeah and you're like that's a sophomore teacher so then I had to pretend they somehow put me in a sophomore class with that. I was kind of impressed. Crest that you use that as a reason why you weren't in there yeah. I thought that was pretty good. Yeah so do you remember when we built a snowman yes and then you like got really scared because I like locked in off. Yeah fucking head off. Yeah that was that was hor- shadowing yeah. Okay Oh yeah hey you know that part. Yeah I as a question where you bury me alive in a snowman somehow. Yeah how I so okay. I'll just ask all so to start off was I in a box. You know you're in a bag. I wasn't a bad. We're GONNA bag so I was in a bad tarp. I don't think I was though I think who's just didn't and snow. Okay so you might have been hacked me in so tight that somehow yeah I could still breathe question so but like I couldn't move. Yeah so my hands were tied. Here's what but I reached my later that you always have on united never tried out for. Okay yes I this. This is what we did. I block you on the head what did I do. Yeah you thanked me and I woke up and I was a senior showman while so when I was making that Snowman I was okay I it was like really getting off on imagining that you were inside it I was thinking Oh question yeah is your nickname snowman. I'm clear I don't think you're here's a nickname is just it happens you know. It doesn't matter where it comes from. It could come from you come from people around you. I nine times out of ten. It comes from yourself really bums me. Yeah it's okay but you know what you carry you carried I passed the baton and you took it. So who's responsible really. That's fair because you called me because I was a person you just May. Who even after found found out your name calling US names? Like breathe bill normalize. Hey Bill but then I still call G. Snowman. Yeah on me because I'm so hot you're so because just you have white hair white hair and black eyes and headscarf so okay so back bar. I got bombed. I woke up in a snowman. Ask Seemingly Noth- thing else. How do you keep me stood up straight while for so long so I because I went back? Yeah I went back and I read what happened and your holiday times and I'm pretty sure there. There was no bag okay so again. We steered me no. I'm remembering now. There was a bag. There's no I was just in snow and I was. You know honestly. I was wishing so bad that there was a bag that I remember that there was so what happened was I had you right. Okay I was bombed your. You're banked and then I took like you know those rakes that have like actually no. I didn't do a rake. I had like a really long stick and I stood stood you up next to the state like you know when when you guide a plant. That's growing yes. I stood you up next to the okay and then I started packing snow around around you or until I got to like where your belly button is. We are tight in there Pulled the stick out. Oh Quick Snowman yet question. This took hours asking. Yeah that was. That is a good question. I'm glad that you just how long say okay so you were Out For three days. Okay it was okay. You kept like almost weirdos. I wasn't see I would watch. Your is is when they were like flicker right away. Bonk bonk again Romney. Did you think like twenty seven. Oh that explains why. I'm so dumb. Yeah you're really dumb but I didn't start out that's smart to begin with so it's like yeah like if floors already dirty and you throw like tomato on the floor. What's GonNa Happen Nothing? It's already dirty. Then you've got a tomato. He floor then you have tomato dirt. Who cares okay? So all right so my question was going to be you. Steer me up on a stick or was Kelly. Here's what I'm going to tell you or was that Kelly reasoning that something like that. You're gonNA tell you or or did you snowman tie media stick. Here's what I'm GonNa tell you. Yes remember when I said that you were in a bag. Yes and that would make it easier. Yeah and that's why I was remembering it right right right. I think this is what happened with the stick. You know stick. There was no. It was a mistake what happened was it actually took me seven days because you did keep. Yeah I cut cut like being over. I have bones but they have joints. Yeah I mean I am I am. Snowman does not assume because that's interesting because you're not supernatural. I'm not supernatural been snowman yeah and I was just snow and I could breathe so what I find interesting instead. Our woke up in a snowman that you've built around. That was so tight. Yeah that you move. My natural body heat was not melting. It no no now and I could breathe somehow so I guess I was also surrounded in a bubble. Yeah and you were. This was my mistake state because I really never made a snowman around a person before that was my mistake. Okay but there was room for you to breathe and even tied your hands room for you to move your your hands to light your lighter. Yeah which again my mistake you show me your lighter I asked you about it chows lighter. You're like Dad's lighter. Yeah but but I didn't know it were also how to use the lighter. Yeah I burned a little hole in this. Yeah Yeah you burn a little home the snowman and then I punched through that hole. But here's the thing like a what surprised me right as an outsider. Yes because Is You know I built a snowman. Then I just stood there and watched Ya know man which was another couple of days here except it wasn't except except it wasn't lowercase our case. So what's weird to me is if there. Are Somebody listening to US having this conversation. I don't want them to get confusing thing. Yeah in my mind mind like you know. Watch part number rails feels like days. I see this was like an hour's situation. Yeah maybe thirty minutes maybe on us. Maybe maybe ten and it's hard to say short we don't did. I hit you. Twenty seven times on the head a- once could be either it could be in reality it is one but it felt like yeah seven. The army's retired yet because otherwise how was out for so long ago. I I'm I know that I'm like maybe overly focused on this why wasn't my body melting the snow. Well I actually will were standing up. I do think that Just as your jacket insulates you from the outside. It insulates the outside from you. Granted I believe what about my face enhance. Yeah you're facing hand. Yeah but I think if there's enough snow yeah did you pack it that I know. Yeah truth is yours. Eat My way out. I think you could have or just like done. The worm and gotten out you know what I mean. I don't need my hands. And why did you realize how would I burn a hole. Yeah with the lighter instead of just like like a hollowing out out. Yeah 'cause then if it was that thing to me that's what was meant by whole maybe an area for you to move in but that's the other thing thing is that like the idea of my hand out. The will that was. That was other confusion that I had as an outsider. Yeah right was. How did I manage to make the snowmen snowman around you? Yeah do you mind for you to have enough room to like wind up to punch your way out. Yeah like the space around your body. I feel like yeah. Yeah dump to come out of the snowman. That's what I mean. Do you mind if I read a written account of what happened to me okay. soo-bok the head. Yeah Yeah Oh God everything wages. Remind me you balked me on the head. I don't know because I got March uh-huh oh it was from behind you. I think I would probably just use. Maybe we all remember what like an emmy. Maybe just I I thank you had that Emmy on you. Yeah and walked me with it. Yeah I mean that you had in your car. Yeah Yeah that was for this Black Ford Taurus. Yano though I don't have a car. You don't have a car my car. But we didn't bring back the seat belting. No we didn't bring back the seat belt thing because there wasn't ben was just moving slowly. I think so I did sit in that seat and then nothing happened even though I felt something would because of the seat belt but it didn't okay so so is in there. I opened my eyes but everything was black. Thought it was blind for a second. I tried to move. Oh you know why this is why I thought I put a bag around you. Yeah because you would think white. You'd think it would be wait is it nighttime was me we again. I'm sorry to ask you this as you were no. It's okay I'm I'm going through the written account. Yeah so you kind Brian View. It's refreshing your memory so honestly if I were you I'd be insulted that the person who did this to me doesn't remember these details. I'm sorry if I were a smarter you would curson. I would maybe be more insulted but I'm just like so baffled by you. You're such a criminal mastermind. Yeah to me on one channel seven I wrote you you are saying was to kill my uncle. Honestly here's my question to you. Yeah why did you think I would leave you you alone because you said so multiple time. Yeah you told me that you would honestly this does not usually work. I'm shocked at this has worked with you because we don't people just when people say things just like what's crazy to me. Is that like you seem to have like your head on your shoulders. When you're dealing with your bitch asked ankle? Yeah but like literally anybody else. Something happens you're very I can explain that You're gorgeous oh you're freak freak White Hair with your tan skin just died darkness. Shark is yeah is Gorgeous uh-huh and so I'm just blinded by just so turned on and say that my scarf is a-plus corden features. Yeah Yeah I would say it's a plus what about my corncob pipe corncob pie pretty hot. Also your oversized fifties coat. Yes you're great oversights. In mice go frosty the snowman oversized fifties. Yeah Yeah Oh but you're not a literal snowman. Oh also I don't seem affected by the cold right. That's kind of cool but you're not a literal snowman no in fact. My Skin is very hot. Have you noticed that your already more. I think to myself every time I come contact with your skin. I'm like that's warm warm. You know what I did drive. I have a car to pick you up one time. Do you remember. You said you were owed it. Yeah I didn't I did grow. Well I stole it but I mean you can understand that I did right. 'cause like if you're telling me that yes. Oh my God if you told me something it must I cannot believe I tied myself through murder to you. Okay okay so you said that you would tell the police. Oh my God. That's why I wrote you that check and so therefore and therefore they would know. Wow so okay you open your eyes they would hear you say that they would believe you. Because when PBS way you say it except for if you're the bitch dead uncle yeah except for. If you're my uncle I hated the dead ass bitch and dead S.. Pitch Crazy when I told you that I killed your Jonquil. Do you like really sincerely believe that. It was a joke or fake out I did. Isn't that crazy it's really. I thought ought that you're joking. Yeah even though nothing about your demeanor suggested that I've never joked ever ever Well you haven't somethin'. Here's what's interesting about you is how normal your with my long white hair short plays really normal and tanned skin and easy to talk to. Yeah am I remembering. I'm a good dancer. Weird and we played all those how we like had fun in played games and like we. Did you said that you would be Parson Brown and Mary. We like like yeah. Yeah but like you could use a job if you're around. Yeah or when you're in town. Yeah later then later on you perspire perspire. Because it's so warm because we're DRI way a fire. Yeah Oh underlying underling. Conspire conspire conspire as we dream by the fire conspires unafraid. The plans that we made this whole time. We is it that they're talking about sweating next to the fire conspiring to in a conspiracy to do all those through on our plans. I'm just going to check what we were. I am telling you right now that if we were in fact perspiring okay. Yeah we were conspiring picturing. It was a really hot by that fire and getting flies flies wrenched flops. We were outside. It was very cold. Let's give it to the plans. We made fire anyway. We were pretending you were person Brett Brown and then you ask if we're ready and I was like no man. Yeah but you can do do the job when you're here in town and then you didn't kill my uncle and that I guess why I thought police would believe. He strangled him with a scar. So we am. I correct in remembering the I am a good dancer answer. Yes you are rising good answer and didn't pick up the fifties co kind of midway through aren't ruling eating other thank you but I think in the in the field who maybe a child feel along with my scarf. Yeah working always eating carrots. I was always always like as eating them. I would miss and hit myself minnows. They then we'd laugh and laugh and say oh snowman. Oh yes so anyway back to me being blind okay so you open your eyes okay. Dark which is confusing because it was dark it would. I couldn't move but I'm not blind. I'm inside something and I I write. I write like buried alive but I'm wrapped in something so I thought back so I thought bag or tar. Yeah or cloth breath honestly soda by which you know crazy but so so I tried to move my hands. Yeah but the shock of the pain made me stop because they were still tied and now my feet were tied to my hands. I got bogged. My hands are tied on a view that was really dumb on my part if I did. That's good question back a hadn't you will be chronic punched through. Okay okay okay so might know. My hands are behind me okay. Well good for time me. How'd you fucking get out? You Balked Ben. He's unconscious in that room. You're renting for my aunt. You know what I should've killed Ben. y'All should oh I should have killed Ben like I don't know what I was thinking like. That's a loose end. Well you had me to contend with because you didn't didn't FUNC- me only blocked by. Yeah but off page you tight me up okay but we just cut to being tied up okay easier that way so my hands are tied behind me. Yeah and now my feet are tied as well. But I don't know where I am. Where Am I? It's very hard to breathe. The air was cold but stale. I wasn't blind was implying. I hadn't gone crazy. You wrapped me in something hard and cold and that's what you wrapped me in when I said I'm wrapped inside. Yeah it was that it was hard and cold and I couldn't move and I can't break out I'm trying. I'm trying to try and train. I hear a scraping sound from somewhere outside vis shell. I'm in so I think you know what I feel and pounding. Yeah I think you woke up while I was still doing that I did so. You're in the process yeah. I'm pretty sure just backing me and snow. Here's what I'm going to tell you what I seem to be standing up. Yeah because it's a certain point I just let gravity kick around. Thank I can just so so okay. I'll continue and then we'll we'll keep just So I'm hearing you continue to Yeah it's so cold bears because I thought you were asleep this whole time. No no no. At that moment you were still making. I'm packed snow. You've packed me in snow. I'm inside a snowman and it seems to be. I am not in a cloth of any kind. You're crazy I know and you're putting on the finishing touches. I'm basically living snow mummy I wish I in the under will be gone because for some reason the snow in front of my face not melting. Yeah you'd think thank you could just like we're just like I'd be very cold. Obviously yeah but like I am still wearing clothes. I regret trying to do trying to move to to to do a whole like circus of this. I should have dislike. Put you in a snowbank. I don't know I am really wondering why you did it. I I think I was trying to the area accenture. Yeah we'll all you really. You're very committed to the Savak grand funk brand. I told you anymore snowman. That's the fucking problem problem. You've got this. You have a brand and you've committed to hard to it I told you what is my name. Brave Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Jeffers getting free immediately asks. If it's Hungarian. Yeah I don't know what the fuck he's talking about so I'm Sicilian Selanne. So I'm a I'm a dead snow me. Yeah no one's GonNa find my body until the snow melts. I try leaning forward. Maybe I can fall you fall out of it. No it was packed too tightly. I couldn't move at all. You seem to have left now. I can't hear you I was just quietly okay. Can I tell you something. Yes this man did not look good. I bet and I was looking at it and I was like kind of regretting like it. Didn't look kind of lumpy honestly. It just looked like a thumb. It didn't even look like it wasn't like three pieces. It was just a one long-term one long thumb and I was like this. Is You even have time to give me like mountains up and down anything on you so I just like stuck like a stone like there was like one rock and I was like there's the mouth and that was it. I wonder if you even had time to do that because I've already woken up. I don't think you know I'm usually. Here's here's the thing That's don't fell off I. Yeah Yeah because I was in a rush so anyway at that time that you probably like just thinking. I was feeling very disappointed. I was standing there looking at snow foam. Yeah and feeling really embarrassed and like thinking about Oh i should have killed Ben. Yeah but I couldn't leave. Whatever I'm twist? I'm trying to twist my wrists. I I am wondering where you are. You're right outside I twist my wrists from side to side even though it hurts on. Oh the rope gives gives a little. I'm surprised by that. I feel really embarrassed about living. It's loosening it's behind me okay. So now my right hand is free. I move around the fingers which means I am not. I'm not wearing gloves so the snow should continue to Malta around me. That does not seem to be right. I try to raise my arm. Can't you've packed it so tightly you heard me packing it and then I remember the butane lighter that I've carried around for thirteen years. That may or may not work at Mar and it is the I.. Honest laugh often. It is plastic lighter so so I can't quite get to it. I'm trying to get to a my hand. Okay I've gotten in my hand in my pocket. I grip the lighter. I pull it out a raise it just a little. I point the head of the lighter away from me and toward the snow. Almost drop it. Oh you know there was some rustling around in there that I should have kind of gotten hip to but I was busy like thinking about Ben and like yeah I just was like or was part of like your kink to watch me. Try to sky did have one or the whole time. I I'M NOT GONNA lie about that. Okay I did okay. That doesn't surprise me because you've got a real thing about the snowman shit. Yeah I know yeah okay so so I was like ooh she's snowman come to life. I was hype. We are so cold hot so called. It's hot I was really excited and into to it. Could've put a stove. Pipe hat on you. You know what I gotta say. I'm amazed you weren't wearing one this whole book. Now that you mention it. It's you nine. Oh really dropped the ball there. Why did I invest in the fucking fifties Josh Seven? At least smoking. I know at least which I mean. I guess you need a jacket I know but so I pull up the lighter. I pointed at the snow and then it flames and on I hold it against the snow till it Burns through leaving a small hole and I raise it a bit and the whole enlarges and when it's big enough I make a fist. Your hands in front of you at this point my right hand okay. The lush weren't pinned down. Snow is passed. You make Komo Make Punch through the snow on that side of the snowman crumbles which you're now seeing I I keep pushing I'm out I'm free. I bent down to untie my feet and I go oh you yeah and you know what Shaquille you the hard way this. There's been so much like sexier and cooler the way I did it with knock but you were fully expecting me to die in that snowman and I can only presume get off on it. So it is now definite that you just managed to Stanley Upright. Impact me yeah tight we in snow so much so that I stood up straight Even though I was unconscious oh hello teen creeps listeners. 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Because you've got that whole snowman thing I guess I guess I just I think I probably would have practice making snowmen for am really curious as to why you're absolute absolute ultimate and game was okay. You want to hear him just killing. Yes okay okay you get in there. Yeah I bill dunaway on. I'm so sorry sorry I'm so sorry yeah I mean killing my uncle oh well it was all part of this ready okay. I meet a girl. She's rich she's got a- An uncle a bitch uncle but again so you didn't know about me beforehand. This was all just like Oh what opportunity. Well I had a plan because I know that you you work you and I wanted to date you and we had chemistry so like the women I met. You always like she's the one I'm going to do it so I started isn't just okay. Just wait okay. She's got a bitch uncle. Your effect out. Kill the bitch uncle. Yeah then I'm GonNa get you into a game of like money cat-and-mouse where am am. I can't leave. I build up the tension right right right right Put you inside of a snowman. Yeah build snow around did you okay. You're burning a little hole. You're getting ready to punch your way out I get right in front of that And pulled on my pants and bend over and they'll visiting my asshole so I ended up getting to be. Oh Oh man okay all right. So here's all right. So here's my question. Now Yeah why did you have to the uncle and nine black bail out of the plan. I needed you to to hate me but then also want me okay. Oh that's part that's part in the energy of it needs to be an easy to be you that I had to have that kind of energy on the other side. Yeah Okay I needed a Boo k blasted into another dimension. H- you know it's crazy. What makes perfect sense? Thank you I mean. It's like we're together. Yeah so what is happening intimate. Do the cops go the cops come and they get you owe because of that Fucker ben that I didn't kill. Oh I light you on fire. Oh my God already which luckily for me Burns that check in your pocket. Yeah and I was. The only evidence was the only evidence. The just airtight evidence. That I definitely paid you to do my uncle which the police really sort of believed utterly can you believe that that black tourists that was falling list was an FBI agent? That was trying to get me. I yes okay you know what I sat down and thought about it afterward. Yeah yes see for me. It's just you're in the you're in the thick of it. You think no one can get you. That's true because your plan woulda worked out if stupid bending get in the way so but you really aren't related to me. I or maybe maybe but it's possible. Yeah you know that we've been doing this for forty five minutes what bit. I don't know what you're talking. I'm so sorry. Why must continue to torture me snowman? I'm sorry I shouldn't sending you never make any sense. It's because I'm such a criminal mastermind. Yes that my criminal mastermind plan of strangling your uncle onto okay. I'm training let me see if I can remember what my aunt said about that family member. WH- The light rain to remember. You're trying to remember. Remember remember remember. Remember Oh yeah. He is driving a Toyota. Goethe's Celica by me new me. I was driving but it wasn't mine. I definitely stole it. I told you friggin lighted yeah euro. Oh Liar Liar He remember how many fake out dreams. I have a lot of fake out drinks. Oh Yeah like like intricate dreams about fantasies. Yeah Yeah Yeah you know what I kind of thought was going to happen with us. What I thought that you you were gonNA be a killer like I? I thought maybe you could be one or or. Here's what I thought. I thought that the fake out was going to be that you were the killer and you were doing it in your fucking thing. But then it wasn't going to be you can be someone else that was not me interested but it was me it. was you snowman I am just like so surprise with myself for just continuing to call you snowman. mm-hmm yeah I don't know you never mentioned it. I hear book. Also you don't ever question it. Yep Don't at all. Aw Dang legally remember what my aunt said. It's also weird when you refer to me as snowman to your friends who like have met. Let me. It's also weird that I call you that to my aunt and uncle. It's also crying kind of weird that I never ask you what your real name is. Yeah that is weird but convenient for me it is we build. We built that snowman like did you think that your aunt was talking about like maybe my mom or something and she was like troubled. Yes I did yeah I thought she was talking about like Oh poor. Aunt whatever because Because has her husband was killed by her son. Yeah I thought her related possibly to snow make you related. Poss- believed leaked me. Yeah and that's the Kinda creepy incests plotline I can get behind. That's because it's a question because it was just kissing before for knowing kissing before knowing kissing before knowing that helps. Yeah again. I do not support St- know where the Shit Shit is that part in your memory. Yeah I'm searching my memory searching searching wholesome. Burt Do you remember that part snowman. I'm trying to remember it but I only have two specific memories logged. And they're not not that I remember. Okay here's what I remember from like hearing it in the wind that your aunt was like you know my so and so had hair like that penny went out into her. Yeah and then. You're like that's weird anyway. Yeah okay well. Well I truly cannot remember for my vague recollection. It was that it was that she knew someone that was like her sister or her cousin. Yeah that had unfortunate ending yet. It seemed like she's like Oh poor. Poor old Alicia or not. And then you're like mildly questioning it but then got over it really quickly and didn't think to ask at all. Yeah funny how like no one followed up on that Including our Lord and Saviour Rl Stein. Yeah Oh oh I think maybe I remembered okay. It was worth me trying to remember because this was just so weird. How this number got connected to to you? Yeah So we're eating dinner. Yeah my uncles being a real bitch. Yeah alive though a real live bitch. Yeah and he's asking me if I'm going out with him again with me you okay and my bitch uncle says something wrong with that boy that white hair. It's not outright must be nutritional or something and then. My Aunt Belle said my cousin Adel had white hair from the time she was twelve. And then my bitch arkell James said something wrong with her too and then my aunt Belle said mysteriously poured Adele and then I never asked her about it. We'll get the you remember that and it's like I wonder if you have have a connection. And maybe that's why you're so nice tour. I wonder maybe do our is that it. I don't think listen o'malley's in the right now. Yeah no oh I think that sometimes our creator just kind of leaves. I want things if our creator her planned on bringing us back man it is possible. I feel like my stories done. You know what I mean like I've given all I don't know I still. I'll have a lot of unanswered question. There are questions. Here's my worry about my staff. I know that I'm very sexy to you. Yes I don't know how compelling I am to the what you know what I mean. No all of these features are universally beloved. I just I feel like I look like Robert durst. No and I don't know who that is. She's like a little little shark boy. Oh I forgot just look like a shark with a wig on it. Oh hot right. Everybody loves a shark in you. Know how there's like. There's a knife to every spoon or something like that. What's that like a you know? There's like a through soon every four or something like that. Anyway I think I I think I think I should. I shouldn't try to kill you. That was dumb. I'm just sad because because yeah I think if I had asked you fist me in the ass through snowman you would've said yes and I should've asked you needed that energy like you said so. If you needed that energy I got it. Yeah Shit See. I really shouldn't affect us up and you should know I'm in fucking jail. I know we have pledged through the glass. Yeah this is a really long visit. They let us have their guards. Don't give a shit about what I knew. No thank you for talking to me though. Thank you for talking to me. I appreciate it. I get no visitors. There's yeah because you have no back story. Yeah so who would be you. It's almost as if I appeared out of nowhere to serve your story. Sorry yeah kind of Thanks you. How's your aunt by the way she's fine? She's confused. Is she better off for not having that guy in her life anymore honestly Yeah I however I spent all my trust fund already. Yeah I I could see that what had happened wise. I bought new clothes and then I kept giving this guy money. Yeah Oh that was you you you were there for that. Yep a small little that money in my ass. Oh so you still have it. Yeah I still have it man. I don't I'll tell don't tell anyone okay but just because you told me exactly and that's snowman. That was snowman. Well it may just as much sense just now. Yeah as it did reading. Yeah Yeah it's a quick read. It was a quick read kind of a fun read because it was so a crazy. Stop laughing the snowman or if I was like he's not he's not hot he's dressed like can you just look like a snowman and she's like I've just his those either part I could not stop laughing because she keeps talking about howdy. Howdy is and she's like his white hair and unique features are just like anything I've ever seen? I'm like yeah. Because he's walking freak book should be called this shirk the shark in a wig shark in a wig. Yeah very confusing. 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Episode 39: Lets Storm Area 51

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Episode 39: Lets Storm Area 51

"Good morning good afternoon good evening until very listeners. I am know-how follow that welcome to Jeddah's random stuff in case. You didn't know where you were. My name is Jacoby and I'm the amazing heather and together. We make a gender so this is random stuff. We talk about random shits and if you don't like it you can fuck off or or just keep listening or listen to give us five stars fleas at least fucking. Do please God so tonight. We're going to start out like normal talking about about what kind of wine or drinking well yeah. We've had some good wines and so we're on our third bottle. We started with the Haram case. She couldn't tell which is a new winery for us. As our new wine club that we just joined at Haram States it was Merlo. It was a fantastic rain. It was great and then we we found a what was the main. Oh it's from like Costco. I don't think it's not Kirk on Berkeley fucking open Scotto sweet. I hadn't <music> somebody like opened. It didn't drink at all so we tell us they opened it so he tasted it but it's you know it's too sweet so they switched to us to milt Kyle's fair work at Red Mount tastic. That's amazing perfect and then we are on another milt. It's another cat. It's a cab SAUVE caps up day's work fantastic absolutely amazing. Let's Chink Perfect Chink that that was a perfect coaching thing so we do have a visitor today. We have our back. We have a print Aaron here again. Can you hear is calling. She's not on the Mike. She's just observing tonight tonight so we've might we might get a few comments from the peanut gallery so we'll be sure to pass his on we will Aaron we will relate. We have a third Mike on the way we are because we were going to book spoiled. Oh for next week next week for the birthday boxing day. Yes we will and we are going to have some guests. We've had some guest speakers actually request to be on our podcast so requested. <hes> MARLA has requested to marry. You have to be not in New Jersey Jersey. GET OUT OF FUCKING JERSEY. That's like fucking of the country say state but that's way fucking farther so she's. She wants to be yeah yeah whenever she gets her but over here she's GonNa come visit us. Yeah we have cats to play. We have wine and cats so that should be any and I have dogs and dogs dogs just just animals. They'd wind just come. Is there anything else you need in the world. You know the anything else. I hope you'll come please all right. I Love Miss. You and I've never met you. I love you so much so today. Hey Heather has come up with an awesome awesome topic for us to talk about excited. We're going to talk about lots of different things all referring to area fifty one who toby's little all alien goes back. It's totally believe in aliens. How could you not believe in aliens right I could we not we can't be the only living universe zoom that you are? The only lean ignorant living ignorant is in the universe is ignorance. It's selfish ignorance it is there's got to be somebody else out. There shorts fearful. It's I think it's it could be fearful ignorant for it. I think it's more ignorant than it is ignorance a very tough word for me to say and I learned how to say this last year. I'm sorry ignorant. I gotTA ignorant I mean but before I would avoid plague jewelry. Do See your l.. She still says jewelry. Oh my gosh she's so bad too. You can say Kobe jewelry all right jewelry. You're saying do like jewel in them. Re It's jewelry say jewelry Q. Jewelry Anyway moving on jewelry because this is how you're really pronounced GonNa go onto the alien thing now there has to be aliens out there because is for us to be the only living beings and the whole wide world or hold universe. There's no way in fucking hell that's right. It's like the universe is fucking huge more than likely so everybody still ignorance on this is because all those other worlds are a hundred times better than ours. Probably Oh my God it. Amy have like this amazing technology that we're like weren't gonNA have for like thousands of years. Food is in the form of a pill. You think we'll probably not satisfying not satisfying betcha. Everybody's Nice Schramm haste my food. That's why they're not fat in the in the I know you you've ever seen a picture of gray or an alien of any kind fine. They are not fat not at all. That's why they have pills this food. They just take the pill. The pill is like the food that they take. It's called the I'm saying right now. The supply this is a better universe thing ups kate dead remember Willy Wonka when the gum was like the whole meal and she could feel like the roast beef and mashed potatoes Blueberry Pie but it was just gum but it gave you satisfy Saturday. You Got Russian higher meal. It was like gross. Wait a minute. Wait a minute meals what Linda why don't we invent that Shit because we're not that smart. I'd have like she had no idea they counted and I'm a dental final assistant so you should know about gum no I I know how to tell before they on sorta procedure with me know how to make gum. We're the fucked is is there. There's a mystery behind this shit. I just you know I don't know teeth gum. It's it's the same thing well you know gums and gum. That's two different words gum which is Heather Heather Heather. Linda and listen line doesn't lead that you should know how to make gum. I'm just saying sorry field you okay. Let's go on with your please go a list. Do you have breakfast. Oh do that again. She's got supernotes. Hey this is the berry I fucking time heather as me notes everyone to knowledge is fact lot her her research because Kobe literally carries his whole fucking pass and she does ninety percent of the work and I just show up with wine just to be dead and I do my voice which I super appreciate all right. Go there so gary at fifty one. This was a classified United States Air Force facility located within the Southern Hemisphere of Nevada is known as a test and training facility movie. Now I have a question well I may or may not have an answer. We'll just see how an answer feel free to just big one up at okay. Okay Okay but no one quote me on this and no one soothes me on the road. I'm Okay Art Art All U._S.. Military installations supposed to be secret. I wouldn't probably Gander a guess here that yes they would all be secret and all supposedly be training facility so area fifty one is in different than any other U._S.. Military installation in that it is secret and close to the most people even though the United States government will admit this think they are a place that houses U._F._O.'s or as they call it supports a development testing of experimental aircraft and weapon systems well now U._F._O.'s it well not doesn't have to be. ooh Or weapons against U._F._O.'s maybe like on military. People are smart so maybe they have developed like some kind of aircraft that we don't even comprehend hand yet and there are testing it. You're giving though that looks like a U._F._O.. But it's really not what I don't give them that much credit I I was simply. Ah did think I'm assuming they're more smart than they really are yes because I think they have stolen intelligence from whatever U._F._O.'s they've gotten and that hey the United States I if it'd be ahead of Japan and they way smarter than it's five that they still intelligence from aliens while I guess I have every confidence in our military that they can get shit done yes because the United States military as the best fucking military and the world. Is it really yes why I really hope so because I'm a United States that I like to hear that that build some confidence but it makes me with how how many countries that are on the world and how many of them are willing to play unfair kate answer this question. Have we ever lost a war. The answer is a new answer is actually in decided no Vietnam because is the war that was to Vietnam War is not a war how the hell he's as on war police action what the United States has never lost a war because we were freaking out because they changed the rules Vietnam aw war because we last no we nevertheless award. That's why nobody fucks with us because we will kill your ass unless you're Vietnam unless you're in Vietnam yeah I mean V._M.. They did some amazing worth warfare there. That was some crazy shit against a big old. Kohei any war is crazy. Shit training wars crazy gonNA give some props the Vietnam the people that vote because they went to the United States and did pretty damn good yeah and I'm sorry the Vietnam vets that were not appreciated. They were booed and share they booed. They shouldn't know you fought. You still thought your ass off. It's just like if the home team loses you still cheer for Interservice. You should be appreciated and so that's really sad to me I mean even though I say they lost. I still commend you. Commend commend you for and I asked you to do and you deserve service. You deserve that you all deserve a dog and a cat. Oh yes okay wait one dog and three cats. What else is on your list? Sorry we're mortgage sorry. We're so side-tracked today. I'm so we're on our third bottle and sorry let me see here. Where was I at so this was acquired a nineteen fifty five? That's fucking time ago and most people most public believe that that these guys are secretly hiding information or specifically U._F._O.'s. They are Pacific my have a U._F._O.. In their facility they do I know it. Why can't we just make a Disneyland right out of that? Oh Aw Brighton Smarter Way. Why would they hide this shit? Look my mind right. Now I see it. It's loan my own because he fell ride. I know yeah I know now. Why would area fifty one hide this from us but they are right now? They're not sharing this information. Everything should be shared with Disney fuck you. Everything is Disney warranted there okay so but because nobody has been inside this is why most people believe this is where they are hiding a U._F._o.. Or at least information on U._F._O.'s that have been in the atmosphere of the world well now United States. I personally believe the government heights a lot of seed grits just because if the general population where to find out they would freak the fuck yeah. We all be going to Kansas Ninety ninety. Five percent of the population is dumb ninety. Five percent of the population is stupid okay. We've already established us on vacation. I should not be reproducing. They could not handle this kind of information and so they're keeping secret and Aaron is agreeing with me right now that that should be kept secret. I K- people freak out what if you pass a certain I._Q.. Test like me because I'm brilliant you are. I I know fought heather. I know I call the ship. I make friends with aliens. I make cookies yet. Do you know what eh homemade betty crocker chocolate chip cookie or that line. We'd give them both of these things they would love us and then we would make friends with extraterrestrial the saying that right extraterrestrial I'd set it right and we go with a moment of applauds for that for me saying this word correctly. Please thank you thank you thank you anyone else's on your list list. Oh yeah sorry there has been a facebook page which I have actually find out what the famous facebook pages now appreciate that I heard of this on another podcast. It's a do that came up with at this thing. That's called Air Storm Area Fifty one. They can't stop all of us so awesome so this webpage was made. I only have a screen name he actually we. We found a real name but we're not going to disclose it on here so his special name we made for himself as called what we call it Smith Lee come smile so I think miley comes. I mean there's so many different ways of pronouncing it and he he is known for Stree- memes on twitch which I'm old so I don't know what that is which yeah if you only make in tullow like anybody on twitch you know what that is yep so he's on twitch and he set up a facebook page as a prank originally to storm Area Fifty one on September twentieth from Three A._M.. The six A._M.. Because they can't stop all of you because they've already said they're shoot Atchoo of you actually storm the weight and then there's how many people one point eight million nine point eight million as of this point. It's not number yet so I just got after say something okay. Let's hear this shit so I'm a realist at heart. I I am a logical realist. You realize shoot all these one point eight million people eight million people so they get storm it. They could shoot some they. They wish they would get quite a few probably get half. I'm my opinion. The reality is though that <hes> any alien craft or technology they have is going to be buried. Thirty feet underground like two people are probably never gonNA get to it. They're not going to be able to get to it no no matter how bad they storm it and then and they're all gonna get shot and shit they really are. They're not gonNA find alien spray spacecraft because it's thirty feet under the fucking earth probably not get to talking like the biggest bank fall you can think of in the whole wide world is in the dots and say this is Fort Knox to the power. It's just you can't get in Oh man after party. After the September Twentieth Raid Six from three I party wait. This is going to be like seventy in the morning. Are we talking MIMOSA bloody. Marys branch at this is eight P._M.. To six eight P._M.. Is Host for the party like seventies house or something or after Erin because it doesn't start till three his houses said Oh. It's on the same day so basically basically telling you. Is that okay so let's take a jain normal tailgate party pretty much. Basically you're done by six A._M.. In the morning. Warning if you have survived the raid shot to severely you buy have time to get to the hospital and repair your wounds and make it to the after Party at eight o'clock yeah so if you shot during the raid you could come back for like a hot rod and they just get bad like in the later in the arm. They probably it's probably fine. It's just a flush. I'm telling you we should go down for this ships thinking just the after party. I don't WanNa get shot by the U._S.. Military thinking that Lotto I have no good chance here. I'm just stand in the back doesn't matter Kobe the bullets going to go. Do you still get me no. There's so many there's one point eight million people in in front of you. It's fine. I really think my all fine. It's called. I I have no good luck in this world what we'll just lay on the ground and then we can just say we were there could have a bulletproof vest in a bulletproof helmet high fine you want. I WanNa say I was there. Let's go on September twentieth. You know what we can't go on September scrapbooking convention shit we are going to be asked up. We'll be there Chris you guys. We're going to be at the rate and spirit obey totally cheering you on scrapbook. Something like we will totally do face isn't it will like we are going to be there in spirit. We'll get some U._F._O.. In bigfoot put pictures and melt scrapbook where the fuck did you get booked foot in here with again. I pick foot in here. We're talking U._F._O.'s not bigfoot right. Now I get talking cleared <music> it because he's a SAM squash sasquatch. I call him a SAM squad. If you watch trailer park boys he's call a Sam's Club sasquatch. It's a SAM scratch and they love Bacon all right gone. Do it read your notes. Oh I'm trying here okay. He the Guy We call ups Amal Smiley Con Spiderman Smiley con okay he set set this up this facebook page originally as a prank but as pages gone viral and there is one point a million people that have decided they are going to store the area one on September Hammer twentieth he is. He's actually gone on the page a couple times now to try to let everybody know he thought it was just a joke in the please don't do this because the United States government has come on the tell them that would be the best interest not two to raid the training facility because they will be shooting guns not at them. I personally cannot fucking wait for this day. September twentieth will be watching totally really live chains all day long how this goes. I cannot wait to see what they do with an if anybody even shows up there's one point eight billion or million not billion. I what people say that though but I don't think that many people are gonNA show up no no he the guy who I think what they do show is going to be fucking tailgate party. I hope that's all it is because I don't want anybody shot and killed trying to run into the trying to find alien spacecraft down in their the government's. GonNa let us E._M.. We're going to have to have a huge apocalypse with zombies taking over the whole world for us even see this U._F._o.. And then we'll we'll still the U._F._O.. Anyway Stop Stop. Stop Stop Linda Right now. I had just been done now. What does <hes> people storming area fifty one to Sambas because you just mentioned this? All the reason I said Zombie thing was because because I don't think the United States is going to release any information about area fifty one or anything that's in there to anybody even if they storm or not like you said it's going to be thirty feet below ground. No one's GonNa find this shit the only way we're going to find the shifts there a huge government takeover like an apocalypse was zombies whereas there is no government anymore and someone just stumbles across this shit okay and I hope us and we find it and we can get out of this whole fucking world so okay so you're saying gene that the only way all find out what an area fifty one is if there's a Zombie Apocalypse yes. The government is overthrown. Yes we find out what's in there. Were probably disappointed. At this point. Yes probably in the world has been run run over by Zombie ending okay and the apocalypse is happened. Yes everyone is dead except for us. Yes and we're living in the backwoods. Yes what they're fucking Amurri on our bone marrow and our broand Eros shoot in our fucking all my Lucille banker to seal forgot about the Lucille Ball because we have to kill zombies Zombie area fifty one very disappointed pointed ks so totally plausible yeah where it comes. It's so actually happened. See as l'ancienne hour on the same page where you know what we're clicking. We're flick we are this is best for chip right. Yeah there we go. We got this shit and then I mean even though there was we found the U._F._O.. You think either one of us are smart enough to fly it. Fuck up by that Shit here this damn it get us that camping that hard now. It's hard. I'm smart. I think you're smart do it. I think you're smarter than I am talking smart as Hell and could do it. Just keep pushing it sure is that point. We Google search that shit show us how you know what if Hanes race craft your I'd say <hes> Alexa how do you fly alien spacecraft and she just fucking tell me and that's that's how that goes down or she would say what my Lexus says all the time <hes>. I'm not sure about that. I hate that when she said that to be. I hate that I mean I swear to God. I yell at her to two or three times a week. Like what the Fuck Shit. Why didn't I get the Google thing over the Alexa thing I mean what the fuck was wrong with me? Google is way smarter with my Shit. I poets into that. Hey Alexis been pretty good to us to you. She plays my music. She pays my Harry Potter a game every day and then the rest of she's like <hes>. I don't know that she loves <hes> she loves the SEAHAWKS but not all of us to and we all WanNa ask other questions that she has no answers tau. Oh that's good for the weather. She got the play music and play my Harry Potter Quiz. I haven't figured out any other goodness. Doer you have to g get the email every week what email so what's new with Alexa email why get that on my email and promptly delete it all God you have to read it. Oh my gosh. There's so much good stuff in there. I don't WanNa know anymore have nascar so many questions but she's not answering almost a few achieve. She has awesome answered. You have to do it seriously do it. I might try but frustrates this Shit Outta me his to it like I tell her on a daily that I am probably replacing here with Google that flexible. Why do you suck question? Why don't we know anything and then she says to that <hes>? I don't know that that sounds that's that's mean your tour. She does Wanna ask questions on the weekend Oscar something on literally Saturday morning what the weather is and she'll tell me the weather. It's like okay have a good weekend. I'm like okay because she didn't want me talk to her again. Let's just like don't fuck and talk to me against you. Hey Yo a lot nicer to the door then. She has me so she obviously does not like my voice because I see all kinds of mean things like she loves thor better than you because thor flirts with her and I know next Alexa put you wearing today aw I'm GonNa say that to her right now and we're going to see. What did she say? I'm GONNA go okay. She's out okay so you stay here all right. I'M GONNA go ask notes but yeah I mean. I still think it'd be fun. The Storm Area Fifty one on September twentieth if I didn't get shot up I don't want to be shot up. She's asking her right now what she's wearing. Oh actually answered. They said they don't make clothes for her. It's very sad that West really sad. She tries to play the guilt trip option often often and I don't. I don't fall for that Shit. I don't give a shit that I'll make clothes for her till I asked her what she's wearing. She said they don't make clothes for me. That's so sad. I asked her what she wanted for Christmas. She says she doesn't get Christmas. Presents and I was like you're right. You don't get because you suck you google. I probably by yourself. Are you with your list. Oh My god God. It's Shit our how are we we're now. Do you WANNA fucked up. News irs that the fucked up news. Aaron wants booked up news whereas you're fucked up news all right Erin. You know what Aaron gets what she wants Yup fuck yet. You Know Oh. We're technically errands birthday week because they're our weakest in sick for a week from yesterday yesterday. You should know better than me girly Shit. Oh my gosh well when this comes out only be like three days so guys. This is only three days for now. is her birthday not a week not six days three days because this isn't postal Friday so therefore it only be three days from there and tell your birthday. Did you talk about the animal shelter. No that is so fucking Hugh. That's just came up on my weird news on my Word News. Click on it and you can read it because I actually toby about this today and this is so F- cute she's able to find it already because this was from Oklahoma animal shelter shelter them and let Kobe takeover now okay hero actually all right so the area fifty one thing where people were GonNa Raid Area Fifty one whatever an Oklahoma animal a animal shelter wants to lower adopters into something you know tempting them more than extraterrestrial secrets they want them to come for durable pets and who wasn't so instead of so instead ahead of storming area fifty one they said come store our shelter welcomed and have really rate animals ready to protect you from area fifty. One option is not that far out of this this world see so they want people to come in and adopt an animal instead of rating area fifteen days the cute thing about how they had they posted pictures of the doggies with little tin foil a happy. I have not got to the park. This is how I got the area fifty one thing today 'cause I was trying to find a news at the Kobi's so I was contributing because I don't I just show up most weeks I was trying to help and then I saw this and I'm like we should talk about fifty one. Oh yeah yeah so the o'casey animal where welfare and Oklahoma had as of Saturday one hundred forty nine dogs fifty four cats to pigs and a hamster that were available adoption. Pick all right so you need to go there and adopted animals. They port me a pig. If you live in Oklahoma go down there. I don't think we have any Oklahoma listeners right now. Why the Fuck Not Okla Oklahoma Union to get on this shit come on God damn good podcast? You need to be listening to US yeah and then go adopt some animals. Go Down and you could make your own tinfoil hat forum fuck yeah get off your but I mean come on now guys their animals need. I want a pig. I know that you do. I just want a pig in my life. That could put a lot leash around walk dogs. We don't want a large pig. We want a small who want when I mean many many pigs but if I had the chance to adopt a six hundred pound pig from listen listen Linda Babe do at heartbeat no you don't understand shit didn't want around town and you don't understand from the bed with bats and six hundred pounds yeah that would crush you to death now. The literally might crush die. You'll die mean. Death is a that's a pretty big gap to go from there from alive essay Murphy between six hundred pound animal. I would just go for a four hundred pounder so he gets outside. Oh Hey we could feed them all kinds of sal. If we could feed of everything that goes into your little been out there yes we could have been called the compost composting the picking all its food from Kobe's that's right. It actually would eat all of that what I never be fine. Cows are fine cows Jesse grass and they'd be friends and they could be friends that a donkey. I need a mule. Why do you want to check out jackass gas at my house other? You already have Jackass Heyer. Let me or or or bowl. I wasn't going to specify jackass but I WANNA real jackass gas. You don't need to have one of those seem phone now. Doubt e Hong. There's e- Hee haw he honor stubborn. As why is he out there. Weren't you come from. Oh my thank God he just eat all my cats poop. Is it bad oh he just cleaned her cat box so in case anyone doesn't know heather's dog dog licey eat the catch shit calendar box. It's Kiddie Rocca and his breath so bad like I have to my cat box now apparently early had and cleaned the cat box then I was watching them up until this point not let him near the cat box and now he just disappeared came back very satisfied because he has Kitty Rocca all over his fucking breath right now. It's disgusting. I thought sleep with that tonight. It's gross but I don't have decline my litterbox now. Get His y'all send you the bill teeth cleaned though go to bed because I can't have that breathing on me hill that yeah he loves heavies teeth brushed this fantastic. Oh my God you have to have your ton brush to that's disgusting. That's so gross patrol and I'm so grossed out right now own. He's he's like honey badger. You don't give a shit so fucking disgust. He's super satisfied right now. He's like he knows he did <music>. Oh Fuck. I should've got a picture of that way. You hold on a second. He's really easy against mouth. Is I brush his teeth almost daily he so wait hold on hold okay I'm. I'm trying to get okay openness mouth. They're out there you go. I think I got it. I think I got it. Okay I will post that picture of checking patrols mouth for catch shit just looking for Cat Rocca fucking gross how we doing on time. We're good all right you guys so thanks for tuning in in case you forgot where you were because like a seaward super drunk. If you're having a good time you're superdrug so this is himself because I am Jacoby and I'm heather and together we make gather fuck yeah yeah give her son all you Jenner Odeon out there going like us on Itunes spotify fuck iheartradio. Whatever do it right now oh yeah Pandora and?

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Why Self-Love Can Help With Your Health And Weight Loss

Half Size Me

53:09 min | 1 year ago

Why Self-Love Can Help With Your Health And Weight Loss

"Half size me episode. Four zero six brought to you by the half size me program we've got four distinct modules is to help you break free and start taking action in your life to get in and start working through the modules and even to get a support partner. GO TO HALF SIZE DOT com forward slash. Join they come on as it feels good. You could be uh-huh Hello win welcome back to an ASS coach Heather episode. Who is this coach? Heather I hear you saying and I would love to tell you who I am. I am somebody who's personally I struggle with my weight. The majority of my life starting around the age of eight and it progressively got worse and of course did all the typical dieting things things I had my own struggles with binge eating and then when I hit my highest weight having my son in two thousand six well over three hundred pounds I decided you know what I want to do something different. I don't WanNa keep trying quick weight loss methods which by the way quick just wanted to find this for you. Quick is not spending ten years looking for the fast solution to weight loss trying every night under the Sun and somehow miraculously gaining somewhere in the ballpark of eighty pounds as opposed to losing slow. Oh weight loss just want to point this out. It's low weight. Loss of losing say one pound per month would have been twelve pounds a year times ten years. I would have been a hundred and twenty dollars but you know it if you would ask me in my twenties. If I would be willing to do that I would have looked at you like you had grown a third eyeball been like water. Are you smoking because to me. That's something I could not wrap my mind around. What do you mean lose a pound a month or year crazy you how long? It's GonNa take me but I couldn't. You can see that I was going to spend ten years diet cycling and ultimately getting to my highest weight. I couldn't see that then now I have a totally different perspective obviously sleep but then I couldn't so anyway I got to that. Highest weight decided to really start changing. My habits and behaviors decided that the weight loss could take as long as it needed to take. Because I was going to do this differently. I focused on the end in mind. Maintenance was my focus not weight loss. I lost weight a bunch of times it. It always came back with friends. If I wanted this way to stay off. I had to figure out a way that I could keep up with it so seeing maintenance as my focus not loss changed it for me. So then I got to my goal weight in twenty twelve and maintaining it ever since and as I've been sharing here on the show I got a little bit outside of what I like liked to call my maintenance range one fifty one sixty and I'm in the progress of getting back to my goal range by January twenty twenty because guess what that's my eight year arena versity and it's going to be the eight year anniversary of the show as well so I'm really excited about that now. Today we have a wonderful coaching. Call all with Celia she has had her own struggles with weight. She wants to get down a little bit for her wedding and we talk a lot about the habits that she could start to build in so this is really good for those of you who might be struggling with say. The holidays are coming a weddings coming. And maybe in your mind you're thinking. Let me do that fast. Weight loss thing. Please hear that last little bit. I shared with you about that whole ten year. Really think about that before we go down that avenue weight loss. I we did so many things thinking this is going to make it quicker. Fast and efficient. Didn't quite go that way because unfortunately we're not wired that way with food we can only seriously restrict for certain period of time and then eventually we might start to feel resentful frustrated and then it backfires so we want to be really cautious and that doesn't even account I'm for someone who might struggle with binge eating or some other kind of eating disorder so try as hard as that push might be there. Try to remember that it's more important. How how much you get to keep off versus how much you lose in? How fast you lose it? You redefine success for yourself then. This whole game changes changes for me. It used to be lose as much weight as I can as quickly as I can but when I pivoted to maintenance being my focus I started to say that's not important important. Heather was important is okay you lose fifty pounds. How long do you get to keep that off? If that became my focus. It totally changed how I went about doing the daily actions. So we're going to CECELIA's coaching call before I do. I do have some great questions that were submitted from our VIP subscribers. I am VIP is totally free. All you have to do is go to have seismic dot com forward slash VIP. You'll be on the newsletter and trust me when I tell you come January you are going to want to be on that. VIP Newsletter Daisy is my co writer. You haven't seen daisy. You're missing out. She is adorable. She's on my instagram. She actually goes with me walks a lot of times when I do my youtube videos. She is in the community all the time I take pictures of her ensure my personal blog on the forums but anyway she is a little spot it called daisy public service announcements and believe you me. She's got a lot of good stuff to say. I kind of helped a little bit there with that but it is good stuff. So you're GONNA WANNA be on that. VIP newsletter once. You're there. There's a couple ways that I can help you. One hit reply the emails come in I get those put together for me so I can cover them in in the interest of the show. The other thing that I offer up is a Free Twenty Minute coaching session to a few people that get selected. So you fill out a short form form. It goes into a pool. I look it over I pull a couple of people and then we set up a time to call and to do that coaching session. So I just want to make sure if you want any of that ability to get that kind of help you need to go to house is me dot com forward slash. Vip Let's dive into your questions and then go into our coaching coaching call with Cecilia. Aren't so this first. One comes from Christiana. She he says hi Heather. I'm in need of some help. I know the saying you can only help yourself well. In February of two thousand seventeen I joined weight watchers at work program where I work and did very well on losing eighty pounds. My starting weight was to sixty one in January of this year. The program was discontinued because of lack of people. Aw well to say the least I have not been following the program as I was along with starting a new position at my company and I am not exercising like I had had been resulting in me putting back on twenty five pounds of the original weight that I lost. I have lost my knowledge or I guess you could say support from like minded people that are going along in this journey with me. I feel as though I am freefalling or spiraling out of control with it. Where do I start at the point to regain that control? Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. And this was submitted via facebook. Okay so Christina. I am actually going to share with you. You something that I put in the half size me community. We have a forum and honestly that's one thing you could definitely look into is joining some kind of a support group loop that's online because it sounds like for whatever reason you guys didn't have the attendance or couldn't be continued but I was asked by one of our community members what makes some people successful zestful. And what makes some people regain the wait. What what is the difference and I put a list together of the things I saw as being the differentiator is between those who do and those who do not so I put one is that you have to check off your habits every day? They got you where you are. Do not allow your ego arrogance or life changes. Make you think you do not need to do. Those behaviors do not let complacency get in the way of doing those behaviors. This in of itself sounds so simple however doing this day in and day out over the course of years opens up the door to both. It can be so difficult to do you those small habits daily because we feel we've accomplished something major people struggle with a rebellious toddler like feeling regarding having to do these habits. We may falsely believe. We shouldn't have to do these things anymore. That's where this whole thing go. Sideways weight loss is not something that you will ever walkaway from just as you brush your teeth balance your checkbook put on your clothes. Go to work eat breakfast and all of the other repetitive habits. You do every day. The habits ebbets for your weight loss will have to become the same when people are working toward a weight loss goal. They feel excited about doing these behaviors but once they've gotten there and there's less and less excitement they start to ask why why they should have to do it. There is no longer a reward for doing it and slowly. They let go of the very the actions that got them to their goal. They may believe they should be good enough at doing the habits by now. They falsely believe that they don't need to do them anymore. And this is where the cycle goal of weight regain becomes into play. The second thing I believe make some successful versus others is connection to support. Groups were partner. That understands the struggle. This path is a very lonely place to be and it comes with its own set of issues we are collectively doing things that go against the grain and it is not with. The general population focuses on or even understands. Many people may feel that they have a set of tools that have helped them get to their goal weight and that quote should should be good enough. I often hear people say I know what to do. I'm just not doing it. Knowledge and tools is not the problem. What is the problem? Is people isolating themselves in trying to go at this alone. The third big thing I see successful people do is they do not hide in shame. They share when they are struggling. They ask for help and they reach out. Isolation not speaking your truth and feeling shame is a recipe for a backslide. This is why You've seen me over and over again. Share with the half size me community when I have had a backslide myself I never have gained a large amount of way back because because I share when it happens right away I know hiding and doing it on my own does not work. I lean into the community instead of pulling away from it. Weight gain gain will happen. It is a guarantee it is more important to know your plan to deal with the weight gain versus trying to avoid it. Everyone spends so much time trying to avoid weight gain that they don't have a solid plan for how to deal with it when it occurs the fourth thing I see that makes people successful is. They've decided that they will not be via statistic. They create healthy weight parameters for themselves. They learn how to stop gaining weight when it goes in an upward direction. The understand that if they keep the majority any of their weight off they are doing a good job. They opt out of listening to negative information about weight. Regain and decide that they're going to be one of those that does keep it off the fifth thing I see successful. People do the accept that this is their struggle. They stop expecting it to disappear. Go Away they see others that have different points of struggle. Argonne realize this is just the one that life has given them by accepting this they make it easier on themselves to do what they must do to stay healthy because they are not comparing pairing themselves to others and wishing for different reality they're actually able to take consistent daily action to keep themselves in a good place those that feel resentment and frustration. Shen over what others get to eat or that they are normal eaters and lament that they are not make it much harder on themselves and self sabotage those is that can't accept that they are not fixed are not only having to do the daily habits and actions but they're also contending with a negative mindset around doing those behaviors so based on everything that I've shared here successful maintaining of weight comes down to one sticking with your habits no matter what ignore your ego and avoid complacency place in the two key connection with others that understand. This journey. Isolation is not helpful for the struggle number three. Don't hide when weight gain happens. Assume it will share your truth. Don't let your mind make you believe that you shouldn't share because of quote no one will understand quote you lost fill in the blank pounds owns and you should know what you're doing by now or quote I can't tell others because it will let them down or make them question if they can do it for make up your mind that you are and will be successful decide that if one person in the entire world is capable of doing this then why can't you five except that this is your struggle and you I will not be fixed. You will need to continuously manage your condition. I share this with you because if I were to guess some of these things might be going on your mind space or might have gone through your thought process as you've been gaining some of this way back so I would encourage you to think about one dusting off. That list of habits fits that. You need to do to finding some kind of support in some way whether you make up your own group meeting with your friends and you guys hold each other accountable whether you find online support community like half's is me or one similar to that. Whatever it is you're gonNA need to connect with like minded people share out loud? What's going on? Don't hide in secret and then accept that this is the struggle. It just means you're going to have to work a little harder but there might be other things that are really easy for you. Oh that maybe other people struggle with so this is just the one thing that you've got a little bit more attention on now. If you want to know what I might have to help you you may want to my teaching teaching toolkit fight the weight gain. It's all about this. It's about getting you back on track. Getting you unstuck helping you to figure out where the weight regain came. I'm from and trying to avoid it happening like this in the future. So that's something that I have in my store that would be of help to right now but you can always feel free to let me. We know if you need to join the community as well. We can see what we can do to help you with that all right the next email. I'm not sure if you read this but I said I would send you an email as a gift to myself self once. I hit one ninety nine and finally after eleven months I did it. My name is also heather. I hit my highest weight last last year at two hundred forty pounds after telling myself. I didn't want to go up past two thirty five. Heather I need you to know. I haven't been below two hundred ponds since high school when I was fourteen years old. I am thirty now and have struggled with my weight often on for several years. I found your podcast about two years years ago but didn't fully immerse myself into all of this until about a year after I have been listening to your podcasts religiously. Every single Monday through Friday on my way to work in the morning for these entire eleven months I want to reach twenty more pounds lost to be at one eighty and I think I'd like to stay at that between one eighty and one nine hundred for awhile. I know I technically did all of this hard work but I just want you to know how much your show means to me and that you're truly making a difference prince in people's lives. I'm not sure how I would have done this if it weren't for you and your show I'm so proud of myself and feeling stronger and it's all thanks to you. I just I just want you to know that I'm going to keep listening and going to keep trying and I really WanNa lose the weight for the last time. Thank you so much from my heart. Best regards Heather Heather her. You know how proud I am of you because I've already emailed you personally but I want to give you a huge shout out here on the show. I'm extremely proud of you for putting in the time the effort and the energy to improve your situation and to work for something you really wanted and I have absolutely no doubt. You're going to email email me when you get down to that one eighty however long it takes for you to get there you know. I'm rooting for you and I'm totally in your corner. Thank you for reaching out to me and and you my dear have done all this work but I am so honored to know that I've walked on this journey with you all right so this came from facebook ginny. She says I I am not new but I feel like I want a new fresh start. What would you tell someone wanting to get control of their eating and their life who just discovered this facebook group and the podcast podcast? What advice would you give them? or how would you tell them to go about getting started so ginny. That's a great question. If I was going to talk to you one on one right now what I would ask. You is one what your goals are so we would write out all of your goals and from that we would start to put together a plan of action. Well I'M GONNA go on the assumption from what you put here that for you probably weight loss would be one of your goals. So if we're thinking weight loss we go okay. Well then what is the most impactful tactful thing that you can do to help with weight loss and that would be food. Food is always the most impactful so I would. Then once we list out goals and the next step would be. Let's let's figure out what it is. You're doing with food right now. So without you trying to change anything doing what you always do. Your normal eating whatever that looks like I would ask that you write it down that you journal it paper and Pencil that you get on my fitness pal. Lose it some kind of free APP and you just go through your day and write down what you eat and if you did that for a couple weeks maybe two and then also monitor your weight as you go. Is Your weight so day one in your weights at two hundred pounds on day fourteen. It's two hundred pounds what we could assess from what we've collected is more than likely the food composition in what you're eating is kind of keeping you in a maintenance range if your weight trended up you would say okay. I probably eating a little bit more than maintenance and if it started to turn down which can happen just because the people are becoming more self aware of their food choices. Then you know that you're in a deficit and then ultimately what we would do is we would just make modifications based on that. Make six small changes so right now. Maybe you're going through starbucks for breakfast. And you're getting really high-calorie muffin. We might look and see. Could you eat less of those muffins or Oles of a large signs of Muffin or less of a large coffee or maybe at lunch. You're eating fast food could we. Maybe a couple of days of the week take a lunch and we would start to slowly change out habits. That are not helping you with your calorie budget. But that's a very simple thing. Goals track what you eat. It's normally for two weeks. Monitor your scale. Wait see where you fall with that information then start to make changes and then literally. You're everyone's everyone's pretty savvy. If I were to say right now everyone rip out a sheet of paper and a pencil and write down all of the eating behaviors. You have that you know or not helping you. Most of you could make a master list not meal planning. I'm impulsively purchasing food pantry at night on eating multiple. Servings I mean my kids leftovers stover's you probably can make me a nice master list of all of the behaviors. You do pretty routinely that don't help and then what we would do is we would start to slowly. We change those we just okay. Well if you're eating off your plate what could we start to do to minimize that. Maybe having your kid take their plate to the kitchen maybe asking seeing them to scrape it into the trash. We can make certain modifications. And that's really we're one on one. Coaching is the most helpful because I can curtail all of those things to a specific person versus a general population. But you could do it for yourself. You've got that list start asking yourself. What can I change to make these habits get better? So that's what I I would encourage you to think about very simple very straightforward not overly complicated okay so missy asks from facebook. Do you have any podcasts. That deal with finding my my y or coaching tools to help with this. So missy in the community we do a thirty day. Challenge your thirty days of Y.. And that it really helps most people zero in on it because every day. They're showing up in writing their Y. That is extremely helpful. But it's not a product that's in my store you would need to pick up module dual of our program and then you would also be getting the community sport and we do run that challenge what we want to think about with your. Why is don't look for one huge Y for some people? Oh I got type two diabetes or my doctor said that my health is really bad or there might be a big for some people might be a big. Why would I often courage when people we're looking for take a note ped- with you for two weeks and keep it with you in every time you have to consider your body in making a decision station? For example I had taken on a coaching client and we were trying to talk about her. Why and she says well? I don't have a real big. Why and I said okay? I said we'll what is it that you feel like you're not doing that is limiting you. She's like well. It just got invited to my reunion and I kind of hesitated because it didn't all those people to see me so she was thinking talking about her body and other people's perceptions so that's part of her. Why is limiting your exposure to people limiting your exposure to events limiting your exposure hoosier to activities because deep down inside? You don't feel comfortable in your body those all need to be in the why because it's subtle title. It's not extreme. It's not like she can't go to work every day and she can't do the things but she's having to consider her body in the grand scheme of things and it's really not making her live a full life so for your wife You keep that paper with you all through the week. It might be you go to this restaurant and you look at the chairs ego can comfortably get in that bright down. I WANNA it comfortably be able to sit in restaurants. That was one for me for sure. I wanted to be a set movie seats comfortably. Restaurant booze comfortably idea. It won't have to ask for an extension on seatbelt at the airport. There can be all those little things and sometimes day to day we kind of numb out from it becomes our normal but the reality is those little things on a day to day basis. This really do add up. I didn't want my knees to hurt when I made my kids in the Tub I had to get on my knees to aid them. I didn't want that anymore. So that went on my sheet like I had a lot of little wise is written out and those to me or just as important as one big audacious. Why and that's what you WANNA remember? When you're focusing on that our last question came from Meghji says I've been listening to your podcast for several months and while I haven't listened to every episode I already learned so much I know you spend a lot of time making and creating healthy food relationship for children? This is extremely important to me and my husband. We're both overweight and stopping the obesity cycle before it reaches. My children is a major y for me when it comes to my way journey. I have two children who are six and three and I'm having a really hard time figuring out the right balance for them between every day and fun foods. My three year old is extremely picky and due to health concerns over the past year. We have allowed him much more flexibility when it comes to what and when he eats he receives a bone marrow zero transplant and nine twenty one eighteen. He is now doing quite well. And I want to reinstate some healthy limits with him in terms of food additionally my daughter who is six understands the difference between mealtime foods and treat snack foods and is constantly pushing the envelope on. How many treats and snacks she can have? How do I handle treats after predinner? I've heard you shouldn't tie after dinner treats to finishing your plate but I know she would forego most of the healthy food on her dinner plate and just just wait until her after dinner treat which is usually a low sugar popsicle or an individual serving pack of cookies through experience. I know she will come back in in an hour and complain about being hungry. Cue The mom guilt and I will offer some relatively healthy options but the end of the day she is surviving mostly on snack foods. I I want to incentivize eating good dinner foods without creating a clean plate club or complex just for background here are are normal strategies for mealtime fix a child portion of dinner for each child. Everyone gets a little bit of everything and is being offered. But I try to offer a little more or less based on individual preferences second are usually available. If you finish everything on your plate second do not have to be finished in order to get an after dinner. Treat if you want an after dinner treat you need to finish your plate or at least the vast majority of it. We discussed with our six year old. That if you leave large amounts of food on your plate that you cannot get a treat and there's nothing else to eat until breakfast. She will often negotiate. How many more bites? She has to take which is a little bit of a Red Flag to me. We say the same about her three-year-old but he just nods and I don't think he really gets it until recently he would end up with a bedtime snack. But we're having some success weaning him off that and my handling this correctly shouldn't even be offering. Dinner treats on a daily basis. What about other treats that come along during the week lollipops on Friday at daycare? ACR- cupcakes at school. Should those be considered the daily treats and additions to what we do at home with love your thoughts make all right so mag let me first off. Give give you a hug until you as a mom. You're doing as much right as you can. Based on your knowledge right now so let go of the dreaded mom guilt so I am I am releasing my new podcast. Healthy parents equal healthy families. It's going to be January twenty twenty and I think I'm going to drop it as an entire season episodes so that is one thing you'll definitely want to check out between now and then what I would encourage you to go to is the Ellen Sadder Institute and there is is a book that I highly recommend you read. It is called a your child's weight helping without harming it's a great book about the division of responsibility and I am no way. Perfect is want to be very clear on the front end. I myself have obviously had my own struggles with weight. I've got my own issues. That did I battle on a routine basis with food so I am doing the best I can but I am modifying things as I learn new things and making improvements and I think that's important as parents. We don't have to know the answers but as we become more knowledgeable and find new things we can change we can grow and we can be honest with our kids and tell them that so with your daughter water one of the things that are recommend this division of responsibility would be that you put all the food on the table and she gets elected since she's holding out for the popsicle they. They do recommend that you give individual servings of desert with the meal and that basically when she consumes it she can come back and second and my youngest sons sons that to me the other day mom I really WanNa make sure I have a little bit of room for my treat. Could I have an income back for seconds if I want them and I said sure. So it's it's a letting go oh of a little bit of the control. But where is the parent have complete control purchasing the food cooking the food making the food available at certain times so if on that had on the table your kid likes pasta. So maybe there's pasta maybe there's cooked peas. Maybe there's raw carrots. Maybe there's cooked chicken. There's all these different things. Different family members like well they can serve themselves as much or little as they want and they see you putting together your plate with vegetables and the proteins on this and that and they can kind of start to serve themselves. But where was your control. You may be chose to cook all the food at home. You made a meal that you feel is generally generally healthy and has a lot of really good components to it. This is the meal and then if your daughter comes back later and says she's hungry you could always offer up to her to to re create another plate from the leftovers. Just put the leftovers in there or have or fix a plate and she can eat that and if she knows that that food is there and there is no scarcity around food food and she's already had her treat she can eat if she's truly hungry and here's a discussion. I had with my oldest. He's my most picky when it comes to certain foods he would would always say to me. Mom I'm hungry and I'd say I'd put vegetables on slate and he would say well I don't Wanna eat that will then you're not really hungry and I said I'll know you're really hungry when you eat Zucchini. When Day? He had been during a lot of physical. Activity comes back in and he says to me. Mom I'm hungry. I'm willing to eat Zucchini so when a child is quote unquote Hungary and not not just craving something. They'll eat the mashed potatoes and the chicken. And the PS low eat a regular plate of food. If they're just wanting degrees and pick it staffer you know just wanting to eat what they want when they want it. That's not true hunger right and they'll say I really don't want that. So with the parent the option is. What do you offer up? What are the Neal Times? What are the foods available? And the child's option is to eat or not eat and how much of those foods that they're going to eat but really we don't. We don't want to mix mix into their area of control so again. This is a great book it was written by somebody who is actually registered Dietitian. It is written for parents to know how to better utter feed their children again. That is your child's weight helping without harming birth through adolescence. I would encourage parents to read this. If you're struggling with this issue it has. I've been a huge help to me. I've even changed how I'm feeding my kids and we're having mealtime. It's been a great blessing so just want to encourage you to check it out but please go with the guilt Elton. Worry no that you're doing the best you can right now. We can all learn growing. Get better but you're doing what you know to do. And you're trying to make a change and the fact that you've been reached out to ask the question means you're a really good parent you love your kids and you want to see them thrive so hugs to you. I can't even imagine what you've gone through with the bone bone marrow transplants. And everything like that. I know that you're doing the best that you can in. This is just one more resources and more ideas to help guide you through this journey. Aren't that's going to wrap up our VIP cautions if you WanNa submit one for me in the future just go ahead and get on the VIP newsletter. That's at half size me dot com Tom Ford Slash VIP and hit replied to submit your question to any of the emails. I send you now. We're going to go into my coaching. Call with Celia. I just blend mention one thing. If my voice sounds a little bit off is because this was prerecorded a little while back and I was actually sick at the time. So I know that's GonNa seem like a weird transition to go for a me here now and the me of the past. That was sick but I just wanted to give you a heads up on that. So there's nothing wrong with your sound you'll have to adjust just anything. You guys have a great week. Enjoyed this coaching call. And I'll talk to you soon. All Right Ladies and gentlemen. I have a lovely guest with us today day. I Have Miss Cecilia Online. Cecilia I'm GonNa let you say hello to everybody and then dive into what you've been struggling with. Okay sure so how everyone. I'm Cecilia and what. I've been struggling. Most recently with is the balanced with loving myself as I am versus Wanting to change myself to become healthier fitter center. I think that it stems from when I was younger. I was a dancer. And there's this pressure when you are a dancer to be as thin as you can be because then you can jump higher you can stretch. It's more a I mean this is. This is what my teachers are telling me right so I went on weight watchers. Very young and for me it was kind of like a game. Like how few points wait. Can I eat in the day and I became anorexic so as soon as I started eating again I gained all this weight and I haven't been able to loosen Kim so fast forward About fifteen twenty years and here I am so With this body positive movement which so I think is absolutely fantastic. You know loving yourself as you are and knowing that you deserve to have fun that you deserve to be loved as you are. I think is is absolutely wonderful yet. My wedding is coming up and I would love to be able to have an adventurous honeymoon where I am fit and strong enough to do everything that I want to do. So that's basically where I am right now and you've been a little bit of an unusual background compared to say maybe the the average person because coming from dancers background. It's kind of like when somebody comes in from a professional sports background right a lot of times. What you do you to your body to get primed for that sport is not what we would call sustainable or maintainable? I mean if you look at how professional professional athletes train and eat. They have what we call off season and on season. Because what they're doing to get their bodies primed for the competition It's almost like that's the full time job. And so we can really struggle with becoming kind of a normal everyday person going from being a dancer a professional sports player too. Now I'm going to be a wife and maybe have kids and WanNa live a normal life and it's letting go a little bit of that thought process us. They got you condition to be a dancer. Could probably did it for a very long time. How how many years did you invest in the dancing? I danced from the time that I was three all the way through college which I had actually gained weight in high school and was What one would consider an overweight dancer in college while I was not that overweight at Paul But yeah I danced for I guess that would be about nineteen years so yeah absolutely as soon as you stop dancing dancing. Every every day of the week five days a week then you know your body at us to adjust and it's difficult to kind of go from the athletic lifestyle. You're active every day and to now. I'm in a desk job where I don't have the opportunity to have as much. That's fun exercising as I used to. Although that is changing for me now I just signed the adult dance class. I am learning fun again. You know in that way way which is wonderful but yeah it's an adjustment absolutely and you also shared something really important. You said you didn't have an eating disorder you struggle with interrupts the and I'm assuming. Did you do inpatient treatment. No actually In fact my parents they they were not very supportive and they didn't really I guess. See the signs. I hid hid it from him very well so back then in watchers back in the day they didn't have on. You know the online that you could log so I would lie on my paper DOT. My mom would check and I would say oh. Yeah totally to slices of pizza at dinner and when in fact they probably had like half a one and a whole bunch of carrots. And I don't know if you remember. They were like these diet chips that were like pointing out meat out of some some oil. I have no idea. You're you're right so I eat so no I. I actually had figure that out myself in therapy once I became an adult. So here's what's Great. I do love the body positive movement and I think there's a lot of really good stuff being proposed in that. I don't think there has to be a divorce between healthy habits and loving your body. As a matter of fact I think that they can actually merged together very well. What I do see is people on on both extremes going in and completely opposite direction to be body? Positive means maybe you go through your donuts and doritos phase. And you don't stress about what you eat and you don't think about uh where as person on the other side can be almost worth a wreck. Sick they're micromanaging. Everything they put in their mouth and they're afraid to eat. And so we can have have two diametrically opposed types of people or we can kind of find the positive in both merge them together and. That's where I kind of want to fall with this. I think that doing doing everything from a perspective of motherly love and caring for your body. Kind of like you know if you think about with a pet or a child you don't just let them eat garbage all day long you you want them to eat a healthy balanced diet. You take them to the vet and get checkups you take them for walks to get exercise. These are things you do as a loving caring parent or pet owner. Well a lot of times we don't give ourselves the same love and care that we do to these other people outside of us. And that's what I think we need to do. And with loving loving parental care also comes boundaries. Like for instance. My kids don't eat candy and doughnuts. The time they get up to the time they go to bed. Do they have them. Yes but we always prioritize the nutritious food so right now I know this wedding is a concern for you and I've actually had this question. Come up many times times about weddings. Getting Ready for weddings. With where you are right now with weight with your concerns with your body. How much time do you have before the wedding? And what are some of the habits and behaviors. You see that you would want to change. So I've eleven more months until the wedding and I actually Signed up for weight watchers few months ago and they're programs completely changed. I decided that if it was gonNA trigger me I was going to quit and I was not going to do that. And I was gonna find something else l.. But with their their new program they have so much more faith that are free and ballpoint and I am vegetarian so I find that it works. It's really well with my lifestyle so I have lost a few pounds that way so in the next eleven months. I'm really hoping just to become more fit. and and focus that way and in that in that activity and focusing on my healthier eating patterns that hopefully the weight will come off and and I will become stronger and healthier so I I have an eight K.. That I signed up for in November and I'm hoping to find the balance in in my life to Jane for that and I'm hoping really just to cook more at home and that's where I get in trouble a lot and I know that's a struggle for others as well all all right so cooking your cooking more at home. I hear. You're maybe going to want to train for this race and it sounds like the new system with weight watchers feels was like its gelling really well with the way you currently and you're not feeling like you have to restrict what you're eating and things of that nature. Yeah yeah so really what it. It sounds like as you're wanting to build in these habits to help you get where you want to go. And and so if we're thinking about cooking more and training for a race we you would wanNA start baby steps and so right now. About how much are you cooking every. Let's say day. Whoa how many meals a day are you cooking for yourself i? I'd probably one. I tend to have something Like pre packaged or frozen for lunch. which is not a great option and then I I tend to cook dinner and either meal prep for a few days or have salads each night? So yeah I absolutely would love to find the time and and and make the habit to cook more and so right now. What does that process? Look like for you when is it. You're generating a meal plan. And and when are you going grocery shopping. Does that system look like in your life so I don't actually have a system set up which is probably a great place. Nice to start. I go to the grocery store when I am low on food and I kind of try to plan out what I'm GonNa make for the week. It's not an ingrained habit in me yet and it's not something that I've been successful when I've tried to plan like sometimes I will plan go to the store. Pick everything up and cook it and then I will decide to go out with friends instead or just. The food goes on E. N.. Right right okay. So it sounds like. There's a disconnect in your honesty with the planning. We're you're saying I think I'M GONNA actually eat all this stuff that's not gonna going to happen. I'm actually going to go out with my friends so with meal. Planning the reason that most people don't stick with it and I actually have an entire course on this is because because of the disconnect between what they think they should be doing what they they believe as quote unquote correct and what they actually do so. I've coached many many people where they'll say. Oh I've got these great meal plans and they do like on paper looks fantastic. But they don't actually implement it so it's kind of worthless right when you really think. Think about it so your meal plan needs to actually reflect your current reality so what that means is if I were to go back over the last month. Okay so let's say we. We went all the way back through the middle of April every single week. Are you eating out two or three times a week for dinner. Yeah okay so on your meal L. Plan step number one is going to be blocking out three nights of eating out okay. Because that's your current reality all right which means you really only got to come up with four dinesh. Let's have dinner. Does that sound about right. Yeah Okay so four nights are now normally run out of food. Do you just randomly go during the week or do you try. Tried to push it off to the weekend. When is your schedule? Available for Grocery shopping The grocery stores right on my way home from work so I'll just pop by after work I can. I can really go anytime and do you like to do during the week so that way on the weekend. You don't have to mess with it. Yeah so let's think about this. If we we were to say create a meal plan by Tuesday of every week would you wanNA maybe plan on going on Wednesday. Do you have any other obligations Wednesday night. No yeah and I can go on Wednesday nights right now. You said you have a desk job. Is that correct. Or How do you get notifications when things are you in in or when you have meetings to attend how do you find out all that. Yeah email okay so you have emails. Did you have a work calendar that you use. Yeah okay in. All the meetings are on there to add. Hurry everything yes okay. So here's what I'd like you to do on Tuesday at work. You can put private appointment if you want. I want you to make a private standing appointment with yourself to make the meal plan. And if it's part of your work day and you see it on their d think you might be more willing to do do it. Yes I absolutely okay. So I want that to be a reoccurring event on Tuesday so a lot of these events you can schedule them to be reoccurring and it'll show uh-huh every day or once a week things like that. I want to make that reoccurring and then for Wednesday afternoon when you leave I want you to have a reoccurring personal appointment to to go to the grocery store and that way we can build in the habit and like I said this meal plan does not have to be fancy schmancy right it just has to kind of be an honest reflection of what you think you're GonNa do and then on Wednesday you pick up the groceries that go with it. Does that feel doable. Yes it does. So that's going to be the beginnings winnings of you becoming a consistent planner becoming a consistent grocery shopper. Okay because in theory you should go into the grocery store about once a week because produce produce can only survive for so long before it starts to go bad so in theory within seven days you're going to need or at least replenish your fresh produce if nothing else so we wanted to be doing that now with this meal plan. The very first thing we're going to do is block out three nights of eating out currently the four nights you eat at home you. You said you're eating salads. Is that correct family. There's sometimes I'll make Like beans and Rice or Tofu and vegetables It really just depends on my mood but if I hadn't meal prep I would have a salad. I always ask salad for right now. I want you. I want this to be an honest reflection so for at least two weeks all I really want you to do is build in the habit of writing down the meal plan and going to the grocery store. We're not going to worry about changing the meal plan so just getting you consistent about. Here's my seven nights of dinners. Here's my seven nights of lunches and it really should look like what you've been doing up to this point. Don't make any changes of its beans and rice. Tofu salad whatever it you normally eat. That's what I WANNA see on there for two weeks so if today is Tuesday and you start today you go to the grocery store tomorrow then the next week you do the same thing but then come the third week what we WANNA do. IS WE WANNA to look to start making a change. Okay so if you really go you know. I don't love eating out four nights a week or I'm sorry three nights a week. I really want to eat at home a little bit more or the nights that I am eating at home. I WANNA try some different recipes. WERE NOT GONNA wholesale change on that third week. What we're GONNA GONNA DO is pick out one recipe? Okay and what you do. is you either say okay. This is going to replace one of my nights of eating out and I'm GonNa just drop it down to two nights the beating out. I'm a try this new recipe that night instead or I'm going to keep the same amount nights of eating out but I'm going to go ahead and try one of these new recipes. Is that what you're kinda looking to do. is to bring in some new foods and experiment with some different things definitely. Yes and what about lunch and breakfast or they pretty much the same everyday. No not necessarily breakfast is usually the same lunch either leftovers from what I cooked previously or like. I said I'll do frozen lunch. Okay okay so eventually you went to phase out the froze online. Is that the other goal. Yes I'm gonNA give you a little pre wedding gift. I am going to give you. I have a coaching cast called stop dieting and start losing and this is A. I'M A B with you for thirty one days Thirty One day audio coaching situation. And and what we're GONNA do as you and I are. Starting the Framework here that coaching cast is going to help you continue to make these improvements that were setting in motion Shen today. Yeah absolutely because what I WANNA do is I mean. You've had a really rough background with the ANOREXIA and with with all of the body dis- morpheus not that. No doubt is going on and really what I WANNA teach you and it's GonNa Take More than just one coaching call. Would I really wanted to teach you. Is How to continuously evaluate wait. Your habits continue to build and healthy habits and really learn the structure on how to do that properly. Okay because it no matter. If you're counting points calories raise whatever if you know how to blend in healthier habits to your life and actually get them to stick then once you get to that weight that you're shooting for you'll actually maintain it much easier. Does that make sense. Yes absolutely be so for us just getting launched here two weeks Tuesday daimiel plan Wednesday grocery shopping third week out. I want you to make one small change. And if you don't WanNa tackle dinner you could make it lunch you you could say okay. I'm going to give up one or two of my frozen meals at lunch. A maybe I make a salad to take instead. Or maybe I make a great new recipe unite tonight. I make extra and I pocket that for that lunch that day and that way were either slowly changing lunch or slowly changing dinner but but notice. We're not doing doing both at the same time. Does that make sense. Yeah much more manageable right and I'm assuming in the past you've tried to probably do it full scale right like like okay today. Mr Meal Planning Grocery shopping. I mean all this great food. I'm not gonNA eat now. I'm going to stop buying those frozen meals. That is that typically what it looks like. When you've tried this in the past absolutely hasn't done that I know you are what you connecting people up here? Yeah that's tell. Everyone tries to do habit change. A truly it's that kind of okay. I don't like what I'm doing so thus I must do the opposite when in all honesty. That's it's truly not how human behavior change works. Human behavior change happens like at a snail's pace honestly it's it takes so long to to really get us down and if you need more than two weeks of just generating the meal plan on Tuesday and going to the grocery store few need an entire month. I rather you do that. Because guess what you're going to be so much better at being consistent with a meal plan and Grocery shopping just that change is going to help you so take your time. I'm with each one of these but in the coaching cast which you'll do is you'll take this framework and as I teach those Lessons Day today in the coaching cast. You can start to change range up the lunch routine the dinner routine and even bring in the fitness routine. Absolutely all right so does all this field doable. It is is it really does right. was there any questions you had today that I did not get to know. I don't think so. Perfect all right. So I'll just recap so our goal for the next two weeks meal plan on Tuesday. It's on your work calendar Grocery shop Wednesday afternoon. We're going to test that out for two weeks if you do really well with it and you're feeling confident with it. Make change on the third week to either lunch or dinner but not both the meal plan for the first two weeks needs to to look exactly like what you've been doing without the meal plan. Does that make sense. Yes and then. I am going to send you a verification code for the Stop. Dieting Start Losing coaching cast. And you can then pick up with that and start working on blending in these other new habits. Does that sound good. That sounds great. So I'll start. The coaching coaching has after week. Three's that you're saying you could start it when you start doing this. And that's fine but honestly I think once you get two weeks of just doing the meal plan in the grocery or she lists if you pick up then with the coaching cast. I think it'll help you continue on with making the changes. Okay all right. So was this helpful for you today. Yes it really was and are you ultimately feeling a little bit better about making these changes because I know you said you were concerned about wanting to stay body positive but also so not feeling like you weren't working on your health goals. Yes yes because I think changing all at once for me can feel inauthentic but making small little habit changes to do overall improvement and wellness. While it might seem a bit low to me I know in the long run. The habits are going to pay off. And that's really what I need to focus on absolutely and here's you know that you could probably look at your past and see where you've made really really drastic changes. Were you really restricting food or really over exercising and then you've kind of come to that realization that both of those approaches. I didn't get you to your healthiest self right. It didn't get you where you want it to be. And they were hard to sustain because if you think about your dance training you can't keep keep up with that right now right so depending on that for weight management is probably not going to be realistic but on the flip side of that overly restricting. Your food didn't work either. Because you you got into a little bit of an unhealthy psycho with that so it'd be better for you to take the time even if it took you to three years to get all these habits completely nailed down on the where you wanted them to be. Because what that's going to do it's going to set you up for the next ten twenty thirty years of having a stable wait having stable habits to where you really know how to do this from that place of that maintenance mindset versus a quick fix for a wedding which of course there's tons of those right. I mean I mean you could do that. But that's not going to give you the longevity of what you're looking for exactly. Yeah thank you so much I appreciate it. Thank you for listening. 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Selling Sunset: Hartleyless

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Selling Sunset: Hartleyless

"The O. Too. Much. Well Hello, and welcome to watch crop and the podcast for old that operators love to joke about on your Bravo and ethics as it happens because stay is selling sunset day I'm Ronnie, that's been over there have been hey Ronnie Hausa going. amazing. I've got my glass of Ice Coffee here. It's Wednesday it's selling sunset day even though there's a sad episode. Sally. Sunset author La Mesa Selling Santa Maria my golly Bob Shirt and going to be on watch and I'm super excited. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA be on what happens lots and I saw. Shows at ten PM tonight on Bravo it'll be right after the real housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion, which is so cool because that show has been actually like killing it in the ratings. So it's really cool to make our watch what happens live debut on such a big night. So we're really really excited everyone tune in and please don't judge me for quarantine hair I was not able to find anyone to cut it, and I did not want to roll the dice with a new person before my big Walter happens live debut. So Oh wow, we. Yeah we're really excited for that but today guess what? It's very sad day on selling sunset today to feel things so. We're not gonNA even try and make fun of anybody today. We're just going to be sad just kidding this. remained everyone every. Or Yeah, Justin Hartley now, I saw a film very, very strong film Justin Hartley this weekend. Oh. Called little. is like big the different it's backwards this little girl this time and It was cute and he was in it and he played a teacher and she was trying to bone the teacher I was like an appropriate but you know what? Okay it's a fun film and that's really all I. Know of him. Now I know him because he is in little I ain't GonNa Watch this US or whatever the fuck that no because guess what I don't need to cry K. and this is why no this is what I know about Justin Hartley. Okay. Three things. One he was on passions and he was hot as he wasn't gonNA passions. I watched that I think us on passions. Let me double check. On passionate than I know him well, because I used to watch passions met with little tyke could be wrong. I could be wrong I don't know. Yeah he was Yeah. He was so hot on passions. Okay I've got all my God that is him Oh my God I can't believe him. That's the most important part about his career is that he was on passions and that was really like peak justin, Hartley was his passions period and then he was also on revenge and. Got He looked great on revenge so that like when he was like to who was he on revenge, he was like I think he played like a long lost brother or something like that. But maybe a con man, he was it was season two when the show went to Shit so. He he likes showed up and the Madeleine stowe sat in that chair with all the writing on it was like their. Character right yeah. Okay. Now, I just Google Justin Hartley and he was was he gay on the show? Kissing the gay guy on this so Awesome might need might be time for revenge rewatch. then. Better than I thought I did love your works or I love Abba. His Google images are shirtless. I'm into great great work, and then one time I went to stout in the valley, the Valley of course, and he was already sat at the next table over, and that's GonNa follow up passions and revenge with you going to stout one time you need to start without. I got hurt list and I don't care at this point wasn't shirtless and I think this was a turning point because I should have realized that someday Justin Hartley was going to let me down big time and I think the him with a shirt on. At stout a burger joint off a Ventura. Boulevard I should've realized that Justin Hartley it was going to be over soon and then he got this is us and. I? mean the truth is this. Let's let's be. Let's just look at all the cards. Let's put all the Justin Hartley cards out on the table the moment that he got just as us. I won't say the moment 'cause I didn't I didn't know about prochell till the show but when. I started watching selling sunset and Chris shells like my husband's just hardly I'm like, ooh, he's on a show that's really popular and you are a Reality Star. This is not going to last much longer I hate to say it. I hate to say that crucial it's not last much longer, and so when they're asking all these questions all this episode like what could have happened it's kind of like. She's a reality star and he's trying to become a bigger movie star so That's just that's how it goes. Pig I'm deserve. He's a pig. I'm not saying that's how it goes like Chris should know better. I'm saying this is the sad reality of of of Hollywood Romance. It's a sad reality. incre shells are sweet little bunny that got run over by Thou Justin Hartley Mack truck of aspiring fame. We'll. We don't know both sides I will say. Not Know. Both sides don't know about sides. So this is a big episode to us because we're watching this week to week obviously, and most of the world who's watched his show has already seen every episode. So we're like, why does everybody Hate Christina? Davina, and this is why This is us, and this is why okay this is their absolute monsters about yoursel getting dumped. Yeah. Like, we're allowed to be monsters because we're not friends to prochell. There's there's supposed to be friends with crucial. They can't be this monstrous this quickly. Yes, and Chris Shell is year she's it opened we found out the the last bumbling all over. Sorry. That is okay. But we found out in the last episode that this was happening and so it opens with with the Four Seasons Hotel. Where everybody goes to more really I mean I listen if if something bad happens to me my ass in the six hundred dollar. Sweet that's exactly right. You Pamper yourself crucial you go. You take yourself to the Four Seasons Hotel you take yourself across the hill. Okay and you get into that Four Seasons Hotel and you get a box of bonbons and you sit there and you receive visitors. Okay. Because that's what you deserve. So Mary comes stumbling over with flowers. I've never seen anybody walk into the Four Seasons Hotel like they're on a pogo stick like our two little. Sticks but she was just like. Just like throwing themselves in front of all, they're like Yo elderly vases, etc. Okay. Protect the vases teetering woman's coming through. Wait once teetering once she caught it it's OK takes flower of flowers to our room and it's Christmas time which really makes us even worse. Yes right at fucking Christmas what a monster Asshole, what a what a ridiculous monster. So So Mary goes upstairs they you know they they say, hi, there's a lot of quiet highs like high high. High do you WanNa Watch me avoid kissing my dog okay. Here's my dog. I'm going to kiss look just kissing beer trying to get my lips and will give him any. Okay. So crucial is crying understandably undeservedly, and she's like trying to tell Mary what happened but she's like. She's like I'm just like in shock shock and like. Everyone, everyone in the world new at the exact same time that I knew and so it's just like have you ever been knocked over by a wave and you don't know which way to swim to get up marriage like, hello, it's called walking down the hallway for me. Have you ever seen me walk in heels. Yes. I know did you see the staff downstairs while trying to the lobby? I know something about that she's like I know I know that feeling I mean in a way less famous way of course and Chris like. And she says, you know I don't think anyone gets married thinking they'll ever get a divorce I do you can't even does of course you look this is my best advice. I. Can give to anybody give it to all my girlfriends 'cause my boyfriends don't care like what fucker they can ask before but girls do and just say listen don't think of how he is when you're loving him think about how he is when you're leaving him. Think about the divorce okay. Anyone can be loving but you have to think about how this person is going to be when you break up because it's not gonNA and everybody even if you get back together at some point, almost everybody breaks up at some point. Right, and the you know it's like and she should know this. It's like real estate right when you buy the house, one of the first things you think about is, what's the resale value going to be right you're already being fatalistic about it. So you do have to do that but no I don't know Ronnie I'm like a little bit of a romantic myself like you know and one soap star marries another soap star in Hollywood and they're both really good looking people you gotta think that's GonNa last forever right? I mean we'll soap stars. You know that's like the blue collar job of Hollywood you know those are the people that actually have to go work for not as much money and they have to work a lot harder and memorize a lot more line. So yeah, I think sometimes of Soap Stars get together last you know it's like you're tired to fuck around when you're working on soaps the problem is when you get beyond soap operas and then you just become like like a Tepeto a regular actor you know with more respect than you're fucked. Yeah. Once you land a once he landa proper role on a primetime series by NBC that's not. Some from the Dick Wolf Empire then you know you're in trouble then you know you're really in trouble. Yeah. So Mary's like but I'm so confused because like the church event he I mean he donated. So what was that like I mean is he still going to go coffee with me? I, mean, I made all that money to coffee with him. He's still going to do that right I mean like I had already done a map quest to the nearest coffee bean and tea lead so like we can't back out now. So whole. Mary. MAPQUEST. STASS. On Yahoo maps and A of APPS. I put my rand McNally and. Figured out a path and the clip of the charity event of Chris Going. This is a signed portrait by Annie Liebowitz and this is coffee with Justin Hartley. That's my husband by the way. So she says that basically they got they got into a fight on the phone, and then she just didn't GNC afterwards because it was like in the morning and then before they could figure out anything you know before anything or any other discussions he had filed for divorce and like. Wow how did you find out? She's like I found out because he texted me that we were filed and. There was like a little emoji of poop. An Arrow pointed at my name on the texts and it was really insulting he text you Saikia like in forty five minutes the entire world knew he blindsided you heard Lonn Justin Hartley in Chris Style. So divorce filing was a big surprise to everyone around Val. I this this guy's an asshole. I'm sorry tax is such an. Guy's an asshole. This is what happens when you give a a chance I mean what happens to help the poor straight thin hot white I. Some he needs help what happened because i. she says, well, I didn't really know wait hold on. Let me get back to that part she says Nothing was fine. I mean I'm she said everything was fine. We were totally find that day I mean I thought we were okay and Mary says did you get in an argument or anything and she says, yeah, we got in a fight that morning on the phone and I didn't see him sense and we didn't talk through and the before we had a chance to figure out he filed well would you fight Abou? I feel like Davina right now like I need to know tell me this shit I thought I, watch his show. Well, here's the thing I ever. Since we started watching selling sunset I. Have I have. I have been feeling like he's a Dick because we haven't seen him on the show and you know if you have to soap stars and one of them is now on a reality show, you know the other soaps are going to be making all the appearances like he will be there like like this is like you know the next like if you're a soap star, you're going to be doing reality show cameos. That's like I think that you will do and also if you are secure in your career, you will do a two Harry Hamlin? Doesn't give a fuck Harry Hamlin is showing up on this thing frazier even. showed up on the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Okay. Even fucking frazier and now this guy, this guy won't even show up on selling sunset, which is on Netflix's by the way and he could have been like, yeah, I'm on a Netflix show. He didn't even do that which to me was like, oh, he thinks he's like too good for reality TV. Now he thinks he's too good. He thinks he doesn't need it and it'll it'll embarrass him for his. This is US trajectory and being in little to right and the fact that he thinks that he is like so concerned about his image from that way in my mind. Makes me think that like he really thinks he's like way. than he really is yeah I'm also he has a weird squint when he smiles that I don't like you know when Pe- when models are trying to be hot smile into the camera and they squint shut up so he does that. So that's why hate him. So she's like the we went down I want answers and I fucking one answers. That is beyond. Shimmy I know like people were saying we're only married two years, but we were together six years. Mary and they're like, okay. So like two plus six. Is that like six years including the two to? Let her see you do the math to let her see you do the math make it look effortless and Chris says that that's his Goto in a fight whenever they fight. He's like that's it. I'm out I'm out and I mean I hate that stuff to me we just work through it and we know someone who you're with. It's always like that's it. That's it I mean they're just They're holding. They're holding you hostage and they're also saying like. You I told you. I was done. I told you I think that isn't it sounds to me like it was a very imbalanced relationship and it sounds to me like she was covering a lot for him I. Think one of the probably I would I'm gonNA guess a one of the things that we're going to see is that one of the reasons why crucial is a little bit more closed off or or seeds? Those accusations is because there's an imbalance with her relationship. With Justin and she's afraid of getting him mad I think that I think that's what we're going to like. She doesn't. She's afraid like, oh, he's famous and he's like we're protective of him, etc etc. But she's not protecting yourself. You got to protect yourself. Okay. So I think that there was a total imbalance and the fact that he would always say I'm out I'm out I'm out is totally unhealthy and totally not cool and he's a fuck this. Yeah, he's a hot. But fuck as nonetheless he's not he's not hot enough to be this much of a fuck face after say, well, he well. He's like fifteen fifteen years ago fifteen years ago. He's I'm not trying to agent him, but he no, he has like he's not quite he's. He's okay. You know he's still hot, but he's not as hot as he was just. And you know what actually gives me a lot of joy. It's just looking at all these google images knowing how he is going to be like forever remembered for just. Having those like Nineteen Ninety nine highlights for way too many years after they were done. Yes. Not like spiky hair. Yeah. He's like, I'm GONNA hold onto this I'm GonNa hold on this for a long time. Yeah. So Mary Psych. Well, I mean in a relationship you fight and you change the other person but like just to go to the courthouse and file I mean, did you even have a passive aggressive fight where he was like slowly eating pepperoni interface? so They've talked it all and she's like well, we talked right after because I thought this must be a joke but that was pretty much into communication I mean, what do you say after that? You know now she has to find a place to live to read. Over. I'm guessing Coldwater Canyon I think. The real estate in Coldwater Canyon is hot and no one's moving into it. So I know I know I was like I, wish you still had that house right off the freeway with awkward parking. Maybe you can convince Lars Pippen to not take the house you were selling with Steve. Driveway yet. Do you think they had a premium because how she ended up getting was very much the same? It was very same quality that she's been custody means she wasn't previously in the black. Lodge from twin peaks. So she. I think that she found a rental. Very I. Think she was like Oh. Yeah. Mean just like going to the four seasons that's going to be great and Oh my God I just spent thirteen thousand dollars in an afternoon I'm getting rental wherever I can find one. So. She says, she just found out right before work. So she just grabbed him sitting got out you know and she didn't know where she was going and it's so sad and Mary's like. I. Mean. Is it going through attorneys? Crystal says I've never had an attorney in my life like whose life from I even leading to the Gods so she's on this show for five dollars. I know I was like she says he she did get a prenup. It was probably not very. Probably not protecting her in any sort of way. Did you weren't you WANNA soap opera like who did your contract? She's like I don't even what an attorney is is that like someone who turns things for you like someone that you hired a turn keys turn like microwaves on like an attorney over so heather could use one of those. So it's like, yeah. Divorce is like death she's been divorced and she she's just says divorced like really socks and Chris L. Thanks for being such a good. It was probably very triggered because actually Mary said like what like getting a divorce? It's like a death. It's actually it's. It's actually almost worse than death because like you're still fighting and everything. You, know what? Showing your Morgan I don't WanNa hear from you. Okay. This I know you and I know him talk distilling your mortgage because you're both of Ellen Barkin has died. Okay. So you better back it up back it up. I never will grouse chat. You. So she tells us you know she cries to us and she tells us like you know you're supposed to work on things in marriage. You know you don't just throw it out. You don't look look for Greener Grass. Sometimes, you water the grass you have. Actually I hate watering grass. You're losing me your. Understand that sometimes, California will be in a drought and there are limitations on how you can what are your grass and that we just have to accept some crabgrass for a while but you know that's what marriage is. It's accepting the crabgrass waiting for the rains to come. Okay. That's marriage is yeah. It's really sad and then the song like Cameron lack of. CAIN tank. How shallow song leave her alone no I thought the saddest part was how she she basically was like I still love him so much and he was my best friend and who am I going to talk to now? I, was like, ooh. I was like I wanted others like hug Rachelle crucial if you're out there. while. You were practising for dancing with the stars. I am sending you a hug because I felt i. felt it for her. I felt so good at it. That was so sad who's she gonNA talk to now? WHO's she doesn't have any best friends lie saw clip of her the other day getting buddy buddy with Carol basking. So if ever there's a woman who can give you A. Could give you a good plan on getting out of this mess. It's her. Oh God. I just got. We go to Christine and for like a tank top with for sleepy things and like cook tells Taylor. And her house yeah. She's like trying to operate her keurigs and she's like she just pressing things. She's like Turning. And Davina and Maya come in I mean attorney Davina, and Maya. Commend and she's like I need help curate has a minor als- I can't push the continue by can someone you continue button and Meyer? The smart one is like I'll do it. Up Sorry. Sorry Shila. curic sort of like it opens it like. And like I expected like a little alien beast to come out of it, it was like that scene independence. Day when they do the autopsy on the alien and they do a thing and it's Like. Stay away get out of there their hypnotize the so none of the three of them can figure out how to work a fucking curic machine. So Christine, which is by the way it's you press about button. Out I'll just use the microwave. Or you cooking something yawn cooking. It's teatime Betcha and checking water I. Mean I know I'm no Wath Gang, violence. How was she able to press the buttons on the microwave but not the curate and why didn't you pick up like a pencil and push that way like homer Simpson did when he went homer Simpson intentionally gain too much weight and couldn't press the button on his phone. Why not? Why? Not that? That's literally. Found in this office. Sitek my mom vape and I pressed it. Everything's everything's triggering me today everything is triggering. So. Then of course there there to talk about the Biz. So my mind is like honestly desalting with Chris share me I'm shocked I'm shocked and Christine's like honestly the article came out and I thought what I shell. A ton of bricks and like I don't think any of US had any idea but she's not very open and like we're so open like when I said that I want to burning man that one time open about that and then I got shit about not helping the homeless because I was burning man I was Pretty Open in a way that she's not open. So like I feel like there's another side of the story. Yeah. He has his side of the story too. So like I just don't know I like just don't know, and then they cut to Christine like lifting up her teabag evily like giving an evil luck. there. So soap let me says he's like, yeah we're only hearing one side of the story. So I'm trying to do my bass to be open minded open, minded considerate and Ken. It. Where we can only us we assume Josh because he is none of our business also your keurigs it is taking off right now. Are you concerned about that that is flying across living room? Is that? Well like you know what? It's probably really hard for the both of them like it's hard for her, it's probably hard for him. I just really want like hold him right now go lake he's part of this to. Where you know just in includes cliche were perfect i. mean he's like a good-looking husband and from what I know. He seems like a very cool nice guy and she talks highly of him I mean I don't even know who he is I never even spoken to seen him before like you know he did offer to go to coffee with me at the coffee bean on sunset well, I know but he was always nice to us well, I mean I don't know what he's going through like I don't know what he's feeling I wanna ask her like, did you really have no idea? Seems. Like do you even think you would get a real answer? Probably Mark I'm like you guys you're horrible A. Conversation horrible you're immediately like houses this her fault with his city and second of all why would she up to you like the first time she said anything to Davina she ran off and tried to Bashar in front of the entire group and get everybody not to like her why world doctor you guys she's basically they're pissed because they have invested enough time and energy into. PROCHELL that they were like they felt like they were just on the verge of meeting Justin and being able to take a selfie with him, and now that's all shattered and they're like, why would you do that to us like we were about to become friends with her famous husband and now it's all ruined will never be able to meet him anchor shells like well I believe in my opinion. Okay. Christine. Who Say I believe in my opinion that it's something that is on going because I don't believe someone files out of the blue because you had like a fight or a bad day of Yes yes. That can happen and that might happen like I could totally see that happening with Christine Mike. On my God I assume three times open the fucking keurigs and he didn't do. This shit. I'm getting a divorce until he figures out the security I don't know I. Actually think that Christina's not necessarily wrong in this situation I do agree that it doesn't just happen like out of nowhere but I also think that the ongoing issue I feel like. It's too who incidental to me that he is becoming more famous and she is becoming a Reality Star I think that. That's that's gotta be something that place I think there's gotta be some behind the scenes stuff. Maybe she wanted him to be on the show or something like that, and I don't know I can just imagine maybe he didn't want her to be on the show were. Basing this off again, there could be that to me off my mind but. Like rebalanced the power dynamic and so but anyway, no matter what it was it's none of their fucking business and to just be sitting there like well, I mean that's not the whole story. Obviously, she did something or something. Yeah. That's that's that's what I think is well, and the thing is this is slow well as to size like well, there may be two sides but right now what you're, you should just be concerned making sure your friend. Is Okay and then you can find out that information. It's not like anyone's asking me to take aside it just means you support your friend or your coworker or your friend of me or whatever I mean at the end crucial is going to have the last laugh because I don't see Justin Hartley getting free cha-cha lessons dancing with the stars Boo y'all enjoy not dancing. Enjoy enjoy crying on TV while your ex-wife is dancing at the same time slot. So. Christine's like every article I've ever seen as of her is Justin. Hartley's wife. So I hope she finds her own identity. You know I probably want that for her am I GONNA Do you like I do honestly I'm so excited for her to be Chris Shell Strauss. Staus. Schaus finish. Trout trout. Strauss Strauss. Kahn. Browse calm. Maybe, I should just keep the arc because it's easy for you to say. I'm just excited for. SHELL SPOUSE SPOUSE SHELL SPOUSE. That's her name, right. Not Anymore. It's time for commercial. It's. Crap in. Show. So with the art. Okay. So now we're at this mansion that apply packed all the. His the brightest that was mayor for sure. NEON. So heathers just like sitting in this house and was like A. She's like Oh my God. I'm sorry I forgot I locked the door I am a man's like that's all right I forgot my key I'm like okay you guys are really great here real brain trust running this operation There's something has about locks on doors in houses that sewing doors in general, just operating them them, closing them, walking through them easy for her and Amanda is for some reason wearing Tutus on her shoulders, which I don't really get but you know at a like you. So just I'm living with it. Yeah so So Heather ordered a pieces of art but only seven came and she's really frustrated about that as like I would have made sure that there was more art than Surrey. You know we're GONNA, make it work you do ready to go. I maybe late sometimes but I not a state a house this idea their problems. So they start hanging art all over the place and Heather's like I'm not good at hanging paintings because like I can never find the hook saying. A great a great audition for Turks new spinoff show that's coming down the pike. Heather's like. She spends the entire thing. Where would this one go? What about this? One robot that one? This one. Tarak. Enjoy that enjoy renovating homes with heather because you know that's coming I watched Rx newer show the where he teaches other people to flip. It's like flipping one on one with Tarek and it so stupid funny if you've seen it No people like man I just bought this house and I was like five hundred. He's like the constant in the neighborhood are when dollar is like. Five hundred so then we knocked down a wall and then put a toilet in the dining room he's like guys. I don't think that that's what you're supposed to do guys. Okay. Okay. Look. I. Made a table out of the artwork. Oh, Heather. Yeah. No that's not gonNA work either. Yeah. So Heather's like Oh my God I'm shocked but I think we're working really well together like she's really stepped it up and I'm proud of her we've got that and then it cuts to them trying to move this tiny little side table and they've both got. A half of it and they're like, Oh, I know. What? It's like a little bar heart side table like three bottles on it and glasses. Instead of one of them securing the bottles, they're both like holy. So start talking about Chris Shell. No I other goes Oh my God that painting was even. But now it's not you know what? I was Gonna see something really stupid. But I'm you know I'm just going to say I was GonNa say maybe we could turn an so that it would look better the other way, but it's like square. Sorry my brain's not working right. I'm still full from my lunch of water. So they started talking about Chris Shell and how crucial is devastated and heartbroken and stop, and there's like, of course, how the turns it into a heather thing because she's like. Just I feel so bad like I'm such a lover and I believe in true love and it's like really sad it makes me think because. I'm in. The Kid's life and like shoe step mom to his daughter although I'm not sure if she was best friends the way I'm best friends with tarps kids but she was so close that bond is taken away what would happen if the bond that I have with my not quite stepchildren but future stepchildren was taken away I don't know like it hurts me hurts me. Yeah. So then Mary goes to have her big conversation with room aim and they're at home if you have a few minutes because. This situation with Jason Crucial like really hit me and he's like. What? porting. Poor. And then he starts eating with. This guy like this guy can't do anything without shoving protein in his mouth. He's like. I've felt this entire conversation someone who put out like a little meat spread behind Mary's hat because I was just looking over it like Kanaya, can I have? No okay. So she's like, well, relationships need a solid foundation and we haven't had a chance to talk about the whole Vegas thing like, yes have. Did you hear that they've been married for like two years and this wedding was just for the show. That is so real housewives of Miami. I did not know that. That's what I read. I don't know if it's true or not but I read it. Internet guy. So he's eating and he's like, am I travel and she's like, yes, because like I had one rule like not to bring girls after the room he was like it wasn't me I never put an ema anyone I was special. I was backed I was speckles you'll save like a really where's the respect for my said no girls and you had girls and then you lied about it. More, I didn't lie. I didn't know I didn't. But you did lie. You do you see what is looks like to see why would I lie? Why would they live? Didn't do? Sorry. Mary saying Bachelor. Did you see? Do you see what this looks like? Why would you lie if you didn't do anything? Why would you like? You're so stressed you're so stressed who you're so angry Mary you. Green Mary. Like you see but it makes me question like have you lied about other things like is this the same person I thought you were? I get your point, but you can't put everything back into question you know and mirrors like that's what ally does. That's what he does and he's like Lord. It is wrong what I did I didn't want you to freak out because I know that you would and I'm not trying to hide also could you pass the Cheddar cheese thank you. Everything. Could be solved with Cuba. Cheese. Cuba of big everything the French way. Says she's I. Can I really trust him? Okay. Mary. Like we're we're all sitting here believing that you're going to dump your young model boyfriend. Okay. Yeah or House, and also the answer is no. By the way you know because again, don't forget you start dating a young model boyfriend the answer's No, you cannot trust them. Case in point. Justin Hartley so then We go to Chris shells new now for Shell suddenly in a new house. So she's moving quickly I wrote Crowns Avenue, house? Very, very sad new house as like these big heavy red drapes are hanging and there's like Paparazzi outside and. The show, they put a Chiron below the pop Brasi that just says. Paparazzi. Like I think we figured that one out. Got It guys. What does she have to move? He should be the one who asked to move. I agree I but I'm telling you about the imbalance of this relationship. So. To many members. Yeah. Magic comes over and she's got like a laundry basket of staff and some wine in it and I thought that is the sweetest thing Amana and then she takes it out and it's fucking Oppenheim. Grabs grabbing like a Granola bar off the office counter and taking it to your friend. I feel like it's like the ring, right? The only way you can like. The only way you can save yourself from the ring as the pass it forward rash. Which is releasing name thing. It looks just like it the ringlets literally. The ring. It's like like once you have seen that wine, you have seven days to like drink it or pass it forward. Otherwise you die. Oh How many times says the ring made it into these recaps I thought the movie wants the one harm. The Path you've seen as limits, scary movie and his you for years. But to be fair, the shows that we cover the shows that we cover really dovetail nicely with what we've learned from the. Crazy people climbing out of wells like. Much that people Toilet. Other side bear another saw. You have seven days to sell seventy FIVE MILLION DOLLAR LISTING OTHERWISE UTAH. So. They Chris you know basically it's like a nice divorce I mean not my but it's a sad. It's a sweet conversation between friends and Manson's like God moving days the worst part of divorce and she's like Oh my God please say that that is not your chandelier she's like are you kidding? Selling point of this place, I love it. The. Like backing up slowly hiding in the curtains now, she's like Oh Zara. So. Criminals. Don't judge I'm GonNa Change The curtains i. just you know I really only had forty five minutes to find a house and this is the best that I, could do so man's is like Impressed by how fast you've moved onto new place and you know I don't really WanNa talk right now. But I've got two big ears and a big old shoulder to cry on. Let me just moved to to off the shoulder and there you go. Spot right there for you. So, there's perhaps following me everywhere like they followed me from the house to hear I mean I went outside to just water the street and there they were taking pictures of me I. Mean. So Chris Flake results eyebrows. She hasn't even thought of a plan B because she's still so madly in love with Justin and she just wants to hide under a rock by the way be sure to watch Chris on dancing with the stars, which is thing starting up very soon. So anyway, she wants to hide under a rock and. Then actually, what was really really sad that she's talked about how she had to write a letter to her stepdaughter. And I was like old Rachelle I'm giving you another hug again. Give you another hug. Yeah. So then she gets a buzz on her phone like Oh my God that's my old house someone's at the door. I mean I have to take off the phone because now I'm still getting packages over there I mean that's how fast that was or how slow Fedex is let's Oh. So she's like, yeah, I'm still getting stuff I mean got it just makes me so mad this could have been handled so much better and I'm so mad. I'm so mad this was so fast I still have access to our ring doorbell. So I see every single slut that comes in to see my husband every single one I'm watching it's just I I I can't eat this APP I guess I just wish that Davina understood what a ring camera that has she shows her the phone. It's just a Venus standing there staring into the camera like Hulo adduce wanted to know that you have aside to and I'm here if you need me just in. She's wearing a passion t-shirt. Revenge. Could you sign this? So. KRISTA crucial is just pissed that it was not on privately like that it was a text message and then forty five minutes later it's like everywhere everyone seems to know about it Our minders she's just like her mind is totally blown about how he's conducted himself, which is crazy although to be fair she's also doing this on a reality show. So you know and she's talking about how? Outer elements really rear their ugly heads and inserted themselves into that relationship and she's like you know it's not normal to me somebody and then they become wildly famous of wildly rich and I didn't think those things matter and you know I could understand that God forbid your feelings change but you know he's treating me like garbage the throws out. I liked that Amanda brought that up about like well, you know maybe it's because he became famous. Have we considered that because I think that is kind of the elephant in the room for all of us like he and the thing is it's not like he became super famous, I? mean. This is us is definitely a hit show and it's definitely like the most high-profile consistent work that he's had. But like they're acting as if you know, he's like starring Ad Astra to with Brad Pitt or something you know it's like it's not he's Nov level. Yeah. But but for sure like the moment that he upgraded his career, it's like you knew that that cannot last So guys are dicks guys are, and so she talks about how you know she. She basically changed her life for him because she was an actor, she had dreams and then see. THEM ALL AS I. Like to be the good little wife or whatever and then he did this and so she's sick of putting her life on hold and so. It ends up being empowering. So I got the I. got me reading into what she was saying about what her plans were et Cetera I kind of was reading into that maybe a suggestion that like maybe she wanted kids and that he didn't want more kids I sort of got that vibe that you get that. Oh No I. Mean it's a show that takes place in La. So I'm like I was I was related back to like I could add a career. But now I'm like being good little wife and taking care of his kid. Yeah but. The way for us to know the ways just speculation set. So, let's. Go back fat applies. We're heather and a man's are finally having their open house and people are coming through and there was like really excited for Jason to see this place because cat is the seller and so jason comes in and he's like walk around he's like I. Love It I. Love this much. Okay. Where's the TV which which panel is the TV under I'm stepping all them I. don't see the TV where and the floor like do you like the art? Brings Color. Yeah, it's art. So then. They, go the kitchen and I told that Richard Avalon Sir. I hate the kitchen they did they do this weird thing in the with the flooring in the house where they make at the slanted it's like it's not just straight the would isn't laid down straight. It's like to angle hall makes me crazy. Can we have a straight fucking countertop? You know because now the countertop always looks off center because the floor just makes. You know it's terrible. Sorry. I was GonNa say something about another terrible trend in houses right now in the kitchen. So obviously everyone loves the kitchen island, but there are these crazy kitchen islands. Now go onto zillow and there are these crazy marble maybe it's Carrara Marble Carrera marble. Kitchen islands, I must have chicken islands which I would be down for a chicken island. That's made of marble, but but these islands. are like marble, but they have these like aggressive marble patterns that are so tacky. Have you seen them? Sometimes they're like black with streaks of like white or gray, but a lot of times are white with these streaks and they're like. To me, I like a marble that's kind of like it's way but there's like Sir soft gray swirls but these are like. So hideous and they're all over La. Yeah. Heavy gaining. Is that what it's called Van. Like really dark vein. varicose veins. It's like someone gave vericose vans, these kitchen islands plaguing all of Los Angeles at the moment. Yes they're everywhere So let's see. They look around the house basically everybody's like, wow, some grey and Everyone gets a new song when they come in, which is cracking me up. Now. China then someone else comes in it's like, Hey, hey, hey, gotta have it gotTa. have it. Like everyone has their own musical cue. So then everyone showing the house to their different clients and heather cracks me up how it she's like. Well, that's an office. It could be a bedroom and then there's like a music room, but like it could be something else if you i. I noticed that. Her like vague. You know. Like like inspiration for things. This is a wall. You can like put a painting on it or like. Something else. So categorized. She's like amazing and they did a great job and everyone's super proud of each other and stuff, and then of course, Mary Visa and master ass start talking about Chris L. and My is like I'm giving space and Mary's like well, you know she's doing okay she can't be. The Four Seasons is missing Oh, really highly placed vase, but she's doing okay, she's doing. Okay. And then Jason Jason Walks up to the group and he's like well, guys about forty thousand dollars. So you really have to sell this. Okay, and then Mary is like well. Once, you sell it maybe we'll get maybe Maya set maybe once you said it is Heather Oh. Heather Heather Heather's like well, maybe once you sell it, we'll get a bigger project and Pinky promise promised. So then he does like a pitcher pink out there and then he puts like his Coffee Cup in her hand and he's like. Trying to put my coffee up in your hand instead of the Pinky promise. I feel bad for people work in this office sometimes yeah. I'm having answer like Oh my God we got past all our differences. So then land I was solved nine am sublime. Yeah. Yeah and Chris Sale comes into the office and they're playing horror music. And comes in and talks to Jason, and she's like can I just go home I needed just go home yeah. Here let's sit down by the giant motorcycle. It's a very comforting fixture in the office will make you really feel feel better. Okay. was that you're not going home let's sit by these empty books above the Curie machine that no one seems to be able to operate Miss Office. Okay. So. Yeah. So she wants to go home and he's like take as much time as you need I mean I cannot imagine what you're dealing with. Okay. just take it's a week a month a year. You'll still have your desk well, technically, it's not a dust. Technically, it's the wing of an airplane that we fashioned into it ask but you also have it here. And she tells him, you know tell the girls. Thank you so much for reaching out. I'm sorry that I haven't you know reached out back this just my phone is not stopped ringing because everyone found out at the same time and Paparazzi Paparazzi proper out they and he's like it's okay. So just not ready to really talk to the girls and then one by one the girls start coaching walk in. He's like hitting a button behind his back like and to come on and we're losing your windows closing. Now doors to start opening one by one. Yeah. He's like I'm not GONNA ask any questions? Okay. We're just going to give you your space oh look. Around you and give you agree pug opposite of Space Yeah and so she tells everyone like I so so much for being sweet guys an answers like are you eating haven't been hungry I'm just I'm just I just haven't been able to eat why can't I get depressed like that? Yeah it's Nice. I'm a nice. Person I could be like as big as a pinkie if that worked for me, I eat when I'm depressed I hate that I just. That's just what I do circuit show she like I want to thank everyone for being sweet and Davina. Yes. I will pass along this autograph book to Justin but no promises no promises on how that will work out. I. Can't go back to Kentucky to spend time with my family and regroup and the yeah, and basically she leaves and once these crystals like honestly guys she lost fifteen pounds bet I'm not even kidding then marriage starts bawling and she's like I just I don I ain't seen her this way I, hate senior this way. I in a man's. Daryl for the rest have to pretend like they're really really sad but they're like. Yeah, and that's it. Crucial drives off all the way back to Kentucky. I know so sad for her it's bullshit and that's like not that's not a nice thing to go through and I have a friend who was blindsided at least. But at least when shoes blindsided, he said it were faith for crying out loud. But that's a terrible thing to go through. Yeah. Well, that was a super fun episode everybody per. Fun Super Fun tomorrow with some real housewives of Beverly Hills. If you're hearing this on wetness day, do not forget to go watch us on watch what happens live okay. 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20210324 Nicole Sandler Show - Midweek Mess with Jack Rice

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20210324 Nicole Sandler Show - Midweek Mess with Jack Rice

"The following program contains graphic material including offensive language fewer. This question is advised. She's got the news. She talks with newsmakers. She encourages us to laugh and she cries with us. Speaking truth to power and questioning authority daily. It's kohl's chandler. Show all right. We're going to start today with a song. Because i got my first vaccine so everybody can sing along. You're ready all right. Take it away midas touch and heather heather heather. I forgot her last name. But it's it's heather here. We go all right here. We go into shots line about getting credit. Like when he got his critics he was getting make all the time. You still get your shot. We can get cars in the summer. could be so nice gene. Really only no surprise actor spreading lies. Daniela administration would like to take this vaccine. July told you last week if you don't celebrate the much hesitation when of course is the republican. I know. I've seen from science. Everyone's comply his shot at. You will suffice salangi guarantee. Oh yeah and we are. Or i should say i am just fine. That is well as far as i know. Welcome to a what. Day is today wednesday and i did get my second shot today. I right off the bat. I got to tell you. I spent a good hour on the phone with microsoft this morning. After trouble-shooting my sound problems. I i know sorry. I'm starting off another show with with issues. But i gotta tell you because if you're listening to the audio level keeps dipping. It's because something is going on with my system. I spoke to the manufacturers of my board. It's not the board doing this. They did research and it turns out. Other people have had this problem to an appears to be some kind of malware or virus iran. Malware bytes iran. Everything cleared out a whole bunch of shit. That was on computer but it still and microsoft remoted in did some things this morning and it's still The the the volume is still still dropping. So i apologize ahead of time. If you notice dips in the volume. I will do my best to stay on top of it and keep writing those levels. Just one more thing to deal with today. I've dubbed today mid mid week mess. Because i had no idea what to expect first of all. I did get my second moderna vaccine today. There's my band aid on my left arm and so my appointment. Time was like twelve noon. It's now five. pm and the only thing. I'm noticing at this. Point is just soreness in my arm. And i know last time for weeks ago to the day when i got the first shot my arm hurt like a bitch for days but that was the only side effect i had this time. A lot of people are saying. Watch out the the second. Moderna shot is wicked. I had a friend say he was sick in bed for thirty six hours. So i didn't know what to expect and and so the today show was a little bit of everything. There's a lot of stuff going on. That will play with The phone lines are open. Should you care to call in to talk about anything at all nine. Five four eight eight nine six four one zero is the number or you can skype into me at nicole sandler all one word. And and here's the thing the at least well. I don't know that they got rid of the malware lauren. Because it's still has the same issue. lauren. I'm talking to in the in the youtube chat room on the same issue where my levels. I'm watching it. Go from fifty six to forty seven. Now it's at forty five forty four forty three forty two forty one. It keeps going down and thirty eight. And i'm going to pull it up again so again i apologize for any fluctuations in the in the thing. gary in the youtube chat room says nicole takes full two weeks for it to take full effect. My second was the same as the first well. i know. now. I'm now in a two week. Basically quarantine period I've got it marked in my calendar. Two weeks from today april seventh. I can hug my kid. So that's what. I'm counting down toward all right so yeah so Still watching the levels. Keeping an eye on that. Until i get this thing fixed. I don't know what the answer is. I'm gonna have to switch computers. I don't know. But w- i'll deal with it and hopefully keep the chatting about it to a minimum because you don't need to deal with. Why levels are fluctuating. So much just wanting to know if if it's going up and down that it's not you it's not it's not the vaccine having an effect on your head it's it's my you know gremlins or whatever kind of things are are taking this killer. Sheep says i've worked on my own since two thousand i have you opened yours up and blown out the dust not to be offensive. No i haven't. But i do have a little sprayer thing so i will try that. I'll try anything if anybody has an idea bring it. Because i'm i'm i'm at a loss now. I need to call microsoft back. And i know how that's going to go all right so onto other things so i got the vaccine. I'm now in sort of a waiting period to see if i react or not. Hopefully not. Because i'd like to be able to finish out the week with you guys so we got that okay. Let me let me pull up my little list of things. That's going on well. i know. Here's one thing that i wanted to deal with. Israel had presidential elections again. Yes well not presidential elections. They have their elections and the the the system over there is is weird. Because it's not well it's weird here to let me just say that up front because the person who gets the most votes doesn't necessarily win as we saw in two thousand sixteen and in two thousand and two thousand four and you know it goes on because we have the stupid electoral college. But but this time. I'm talking about israel. Let me just read to you a little bit from the washington post because it's hard for me to explain what went on there. But here's the bottom line. Netanyahu may have gotten the most boats but he didn't get enough to form a government so The washington post reports prime minister. Benjamin netanyahu's party won the most parliamentary seats in israel's election tuesday according to the exit polls putting him in within sight of securing a governing coalition and extending his ten years. The country's longest serving leader bring volume up again. Netanyahu's likud party for outpolled. Its main challengers. But and here's the important part but still fell well. Short of a parliamentary majority and the exit poll results which continued to shift in the wee hours of wednesday suggested that a majority might remain out of reach the exit poll results show that israeli politics remains stalemated by profound divide. Three previous elections in the past two years each failed to produce a functional government and lawmakers again face appeared of intense horse-trading as pro anti netanyahu forces. Try to cobble together. A majority in the one hundred twenty seat parliament. That's known as the knesset. So that's where we are so now this happened. Let me bring up the whereas okay. It was september eighteenth. Two thousand nineteen god. I thought it was more recent than that. But i guess it was that long ago that israel went to the polls and again it looked like bb. Netanyahu was out because the same thing. His party got a majority of the votes. But not enough to form a government so we had to form a coalition with someone else. So i got all excited. And i'm thinking wow all right at this point we're still dealing with trump. We had another year of trump to deal with. And all i could think is at least. We can get netanyahu out in israel right up and david's calling now so what. Hi david what did i get. Hello you you didn't get any on. I wanted to call in with a heart felt stuck in very much for shannon. Heavy fees s. d. yeah. I saw that question about gun control. And voting-rights said that the biden administration was not going to be pushing hard on those in far left issues. Yeah i'm sorry gun. Control is not a farmer to specifically states. Sir we have a right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and as long as these maniacs have access to killing machines we are not able to live our lives and we are not able to enjoy the mystic tranquillity and adds to voting rights again. Teddy piece that's right because if we can't vote then nothing is going to happen. Nothing we're gonna be stuck with this asshole booking me tell us that you relating including including the goddamn filibuster thank you very much joe. Manchin shits things and nothing's going to happen. Nothing's gonna have okay all right. I agree with you on the petty fees. There you go all right. Thank you david by bradley. Have you to all right. That was my husband. And i actually wasn't even going to do that story. Because it's you know it's what some reporter on one cable channel said but this is one of msnbc's white house reporters sharon petty piece who referred to voting rights and gun control as far left issues so as he said. Fuck you very much. All right back to what i was talking about. It was september eighteenth of two thousand nineteen the last time israel went to the polls and it looked like it looked like netanyahu lost and i got excited and so i decided to call israel. Now i do this from time to time. I've done it over the years. I did ten years ago. During when the arab spring started and therere square was overrun with protesters. I called a hotel overlooking to rear square. And the reason i call hotels in other countries is because you're more likely to get somebody who speaks english so this method to mattis sometimes so on september. Eighteenth two thousand. Nineteen after israel went to the polls and it looked like netanyahu was out. I had a little premature celebration. So i called and i pulled up on tripadvisor. Tel aviv consumer lovely tourist city. And i called the top rated hotel which happened to be the vera hotel just to give you a just a something to compare what's going to happen today to and i have no idea what's going to happen. This is what happened back. In september of twenty nineteen when i called the era hotel and i just wanted to talk to an average person to see what they think. Who's going to severe. Hello hi hi can you hear me. Okay yeah you're breaking up. I'm sorry my name's nicole. I'm calling from the united states. I do a radio show. And we're covering the election's over there. And i was just curious to know what you might think about what's going on. Is it going to be netanyahu. Is he going to be out. Are you happy about that what what's happening over. There hopes he's going to be out. Yeah united states hopes. He's going to be out to so do you typically look. We can't stand donald trump over here. I'm so sorry that the we foisted him on the rest of the world so it went like that you get the idea. The the person who answered the phone at the vera hotel in tel aviv. Israel wanted hoped that this meant the end of netanyahu. Well we know. Even though he's under indictment criminal indictments netanyahu's still somehow has remained in power until they did this other election yesterday. It's the fourth one in two years. Right and bb now is saying. We can't have a fifth election unique. We need to form a government. Well nobody else wants to form a government with him. So i figured what we'd do is. Let's call the hotel vera again because we can so Let's say da. It's country code nine seven two three than seven seven eight and And let's you know let's see what happens. I have no idea what's going to happen. That's the beautiful thing about doing these calls is. I never know what's going to happen. Wondering the dinghy or are calling for visual the hotel vera. Which is the number one hotel on tripadvisor in tel aviv. In case you're wondering okay. I hope they like seven hours. Difference there so it's late. it's like late at night there. I hope they answer. Otherwise this waste time. Let me tell you what's coming up in the show jack. Rice is going to check in with us again because he's in minneapolis. He's a defense attorney and the The jury has been seated in the murder trial of the former cop. Who killed george. Floyd all right for some reason. This numbers not answering. I do have another number all right. Let's try the other number just because that one didn't go through so let's try it again still calling tel aviv. Israel the hotel vera. The other number is da da dam or israel nine seven two then it goes down and then nine four all right. Let's see if this one works If not we just wasted a couple of minutes and that's okay okay. Hello there there are wondering needing to bring a guinea. I hope they answer. You know. I guess if it is like one o'clock in the morning over there i can't imagine a hotel would close. Its front desk. Well this might be just a bust of a segment. Last time we did this. I was on earlier in the day so over there in the middle of the night. It's eleven sixteen in tel aviv. Then somebody should be away. They should answer the phone. This is the hotel vera. This is the top rated hotel in the vera hotel. I'm gonna. I'm gonna try one more time. Sorry and if and if it doesn't work then. I owe you one like i owe you big time because this is not exactly great. Radio this is. Why oftentimes just to give you some inside info. When radio people do a bit like this. They'll do it like during as a record is playing off the air and they record it so that you know they don't go through this where they call and call and nobody answers So you know you don't run into these problems but oh that why didn't it go through that. Not three seven seven eight. Oh i see three eight need another zero on there. Okay all right. Let's see if this works. This is our last try. We'll see if it works. If it doesn't maybe i'll call a different hotel because i'm a glutton for punishment right we're going to give a couple i really wanted. The mirror. hotel looked so good and they were so great. Last time Dammit dammit down at all right well. The next one on the list is the jurisco hotel and tel aviv. I guess i can try to call them. Well vera. you've got me down for the first time ever. You've let me down. Oh this one doesn't have a phone number. Okay all right well let me find a different one. Royal beach tel-aviv. Sarah phone number there dammit. None of these opponent all right. I guess this bit is not working. I should just play for you back the rest of the call from last time because it was quite good i feel bad. Now it's like a what a letdown. We were going to do something really fun here all right. Let's let's just see if any of these heavy a phone number. If i can pull up any of the. Here's a phone number okay. This is the savoy tel aviv seaside. We'll try we'll try one more all right so now. Let's hold on. That's calling that number back again. Let's do. I know it's great radio. Isn't it but we but when the calls come together the they're really fun so all right. Let's just try this one last one so nine. Three seven four One to don't don and let's see let's see if we get an answer at the savoy tel aviv. Seaside again it works. it's really fun. No never know what you're going to get and again if they don't answer then than i owe you big time jack right. Hello hi hi. Do you speak english. Hi my name's nicole. I'm calling from the united states. I do a radio show. And i was looking at the results of the elections over there and it looks like netanyahu again didn't get enough votes to form a government. What do you think about that. And i don't know. I'm cold combing alltel know. I know why. I'm calling the hotel in tel aviv. Because i know that people who work in hotels usually speak english. So i wanted to get somebody just a random person in israel who would talk to me about it. Because i'm over here. In the united states we got rid of donald trump this year which is a really good thing. And i'm really hoping israel can get rid of benjamin netanyahu. Is that something you would like. I am and i don't really. I didn't really mind. I'm just. I'm just looking for peace and love and i hear you and just looking for a just want world gets better and yes. It doesn't matter which we government or which person we just need to be good to each other and what a concept right. What a concept that would be. Hey let me ask you this then. I just got my second vaccine for the covid here. Israel's doing a really good job of accelerating its citizens have gotten the shot yet. No ain't got sick from hill from corona. Oh no you got ill from corona. How long have you been better. How are you better one month one month. Oh boy you know what they're saying. Though if you get the vaccine like people who've had it and then get the vaccine seemed to be doing better like it helps get rid of some of the lingering symptoms. Do you have any symptoms left. Do you still have some lingering effects goma just dire. Every time. I am tired tired tired. So are they telling you that you shouldn't get the vaccine because you had the disease because you had the virus. Oh wow alpha area. I see okay. Well are things opening back up there. Though everybody everything is getting sort of back to normal most people there have been vaccinated. Yes okay there. Even from there is interest community date. Really oh wow so. It's been a while though things are just starting to pick up again and yup. Okay well i really appreciate you talking to us for now yeah. Let's hope everybody do wear masks. D do people in israel wear masks out in public. Okay and i think it helps me. I think it helped but some people don't wear it everywhere in over the world that it is well. Hopefully we'll give you on the other side of this soon enough. Get your vaccine soon because apparently maybe it should help with the fatigue. That you're still feeling i thank you for answering the phone and talking to us. I'm sorry to put you on the spot. I know some people get weird talking politics. I'll just speak for myself and a lot of people over here in the us. We think it's time for israel to move past that benjamin netanyahu Okay well it's talking to you. Thank you so much. Welcome to israel if you want more. Thank you one of these days. I hope to get there. I rarely do it three beautiful. That's what i hear i. I'm looking at the pictures of your hotel. It looks wonderful. You're right. You're right on the water It looks really pretty. Yeah there. there's a lot of veteran attractions and israel like masada thing haifa and. Just think about it to the farmer. It great thank to israel but let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Because i'm i'm jewish. And i have a daughter who's twenty one and i know that they do the birthright trips over to israel. Is that something you think should center on really. It's what it's called ugly too late and you recommend that you think it would be a good thing for her to do. My daughter's twenty one. Yeah okay think all right well. We'll work towards that. Thank you for talking to me. I really appreciate it and stay. Well you will good luck with this election morning. Giving england don't want it's five o'clock in the afternoon here so i know it's much later there so you have a good night. Okay all right. Thank you nice meeting you too. Bye-bye walk all right bye-bye all right. So that was Wasn't quite the woman that i got last time at the bureau hotel. But that's what you get at the savoy tel aviv seaside. So that's interesting. He was told that no because he had the covid that he a d is not eligible to get the vaccine right now and israel has vaccinated the majority of their population so far. That's that's interesting okay. So let's see other stuff that i wanted to talk about their told you. This is the mid week mess. Got a little bit of everything. We will speak with jack rice and a little bit. They ceded the jury in the murder trial for the cop. Ex-cop who killed george floyd so we'll talk to him. Oh i know couple of other things. I a today is equal pay day. Yeah do you know what equal pay day means. It means that you take a man and a woman who work the same job. Same experience same capabilities. Same responsibilities in their position. The man worked throughout and pretend cova didn't exist. I'm just using this. As sort of you know an example in non cova time because covid throws everything out of whack so the man worked say you know a forty hour week all year long in twenty twenty january through december and he earned. Let's let's just throw it or nice easy round number sixty thousand dollars the woman with the same qualifications. Same experience doing the same job on average where you're like. Averaging out the nation that's that woman would have had to work until today to earn the same sixty thousand dollars that the man and hate using the word earned because frankly the woman earned the same amount the man did. She just didn't get it. She earned it. She just wasn't rewarded for the fruits of her labor. I've been there you know. Hey i work in radio or did i'll tell you a job. I had Here in miami working for then clear. Channel now iheartradio. The you know them iheartradio they. I produced a morning show at the van progressive. Talk station here in south florida with jim. Defeaty who people in south florida knows he he. He was a newspaper guy. He worked for the miami herald. Now he's over at channel for the. Cbs owned station in south florida. And he's a great reporter well. Winz hired him to do mornings. And at the time. I was at a radio. I was so soured on it but i heard jim was gonna take over mornings and i called the station a dialogue with the program director. Said gyms great but you need somebody who knows radio so long story short. They hired me as producer. A year goes by. I was his low paid producer. I he made a lot of money. I didn't he. They'd at the year ends. They didn't renew his contract and they just sort of slid me into the host seat. They did not give me a producer. So i was the host. I was the producer. Jim defeaty making ninety thousand dollars a year hosting the show. When i was host and producer. They gave me a big old raise from the thirty five thousand. I was making his producer to. I think they raised me to forty five. Maybe might have only been forty at first but so they gave me a small raise. I got to host. The show produced the show. Be chief cook and bottle washer and for that. They paid me half of what they paid him. I could have complained. I'm sure i could have made an issue of it. And then i would have been out of a job. That's what equal pay day is all about welcome to it. Yeah aren't you proud to be an american. I'm not with that. Let's let's change gears again. It is the the the mid day mess. And i told you my old friend jack. Rice was going to be here and sure enough. I gotta i got find out here. We go is that. That's jack's thank jack. I gotta bring up your audio while. I get your your. Got your picture here too. It's actually a picture of you get well. Get the video shot in there Yeah you see the where are you there. Like in iraq or something. I think i was just outside of kabul afghanistan. Well because you are a world traveler so jack. Rice has been a ci officer a foreign correspondent a talk show host. He is currently in his element as a defense attorney in minneapolis. You're jack of all trades. Jack well you know how life is. Sometimes you do the things that you do. I'm actually a former prosecutor. I've been a criminal defense attorney for a lot of years. And and i guess i'm a board certified criminal law specialist i've actually taught trial advocacy work and taught lawyers across the united states and across the world so i was in kenya right before the pandemic hit. I'm going online and tanzania. I've taught russia republican georgia thailand. Uganda south sudan. It's just part of what i do. So yeah and of course. I happen to live in minneapolis. In fact i live ten blocks. From where george floyd died in the street and so this is a case that has sort of had a massive impact upon this city and and a massive impact upon. I think anybody who lives here. Let alone the fact that it's sort of had an impact across the world one. Anyone everyone who saw that video It had an impact on as it should because that should not be happening right and so we saw a man get killed. We saw a somebody who was supposed to be protecting that man instead. Use is power abused his power to murder. This man again. The reason why. I would not be on the jury. Because i said he'd murdered him right. Well that's exactly why we're having that jury trial and in fact it started about two and a half weeks ago if will and when i say started i mean this process has been going on since sometime after may twenty fifth when ultimately derek chauvin was arrested but realistically they started picking a jury in this case Two weeks from last monday and in fact what they have done between that point and this was they had picked that twelve person jury. Plus three alternates getting prepared to try that case that cases going to start the opening statements are going to begin starting darting this next monday and it's it's very pressure field filled. There are eleven hundred a law enforcement officers around not just did the buildings weird. They're trying this case but the surrounding area out of conservative. What might happen there. Two thousand minnesota national guard that are are prepared to move in as well and so this has been a very big deal and everybody knows in light of what happened last summer than what might happen now and that it's important to make sure that you're prepared to what that might mean absolutely do so. The jury selection the ceiling of the d'ivoire deer happened. There were some kinks in the armor. There there were some problems. One the one of the first things that popped up was that the city announced this twenty seven million dollar settlement with george floyd family right in the middle of jury selection. How i thought my thought was okay. Make the settlement with them but put in the deal that it is not to be announced until the trial is over. Wouldn't that have made more sense. No absolutely would call this idiocy in the first place when you look at. What the city council did they ultimately agreed with. The george floyd family paid out twenty seven million dollars which by the way has a record settlement in minnesota highest. We have ever seen here. The problem that comes out of it is this and you just alluded to exactly what you have now is an acknowledgement of of fault an acknowledgement of responsibility and more importantly because we were in the middle of jury selection. What happens is these people aren't sequestered so in other words. They're not putting a hotel and they're not being excluded from the media. They're told not to re papers or watch. Tv problem that comes with that is that nobody technically knows who they are. And so as a result if you just walk up to your neighbor and say hey here about the what was going on with minneapolis. That might be one of the jurors rand so is a result. In fact in fact. That's exactly what happened in this case. They brought everything to a standstill and ultimately they brought all of those jurors at that point. I believe there were seven right. There were seven seven. Two of those seven were actually removed because of this i mean the idiocy of it's interesting because what the judge said subsequently z. Said it's not a question of of if this cuts for the prosecution or whether it cuts for the defense what matters is that it cuts and that's the truth and so they could have just said we're gonna make this agreement but we're going to do is we're not going to disclose this agreement and right which i'm look i'm a i'm a layperson. I'm not a lawyer. I don't play one on the radio. I never never even hired to be one but it just makes common sense. How did they announce this huge settlement with the family while her jury is being selected for murder trial. I just don't get it. You know and you and i talked a bit about this actually. I think it's worse than that because in fact one of the problems is is. It does impact due process in this case. And if we wanna believe in this country that the united states has the best criminal justice system on the planet and when you look at other parts of the world. I can tell you that by comparison it can be quite extraordinary but the problem when you do something. Like this see undercuts the credibility of that system itself. That's a problem. The other part of this is if you think about it. You realize that if they had held off on this and not disclosed this in the event that children walks. And i'm not suggesting one way or the other. But if he did at least then could drop that and say hey twenty seven million goes to the family. Everybody calm down right out the window. What happens if he's prosecuted and convicted. But it's not as much as people want or it's too much for some people and then people are in the streets for that reason you can then say at least well you know what we have a settlement in place. That's good everybody calm down. They lost the opportunity at all levels. They messed up the trial in the middle of it and everybody sits and says oh wow great decision idiocy women who i mean. I like to place blame where it's do or know who is responsible for this here. Here's who's responsible. The mayor is responsible. He is responsible. The city council mall all of the members of the city. Council voted for this. They're responsible the minneapolis attorney. Who actually penned an op. Ed subsequently saying ou we take an opportunity to pay this out because if they waited till the trial was over then the number would have been higher. Now dad freight i will. I will go their idiocy. Yes i'm you understand. This is the highest settlement that has ever been paid out in the history of the state of minnesota. And in fact the way they usually do this and this has nothing to the quality of the person that george floyd is but the way they usually do this when somebody runs over somebody in the street when somebody kills somebody for whatever reason what they do is they bring bring actuarial tables and they say all right. How much money does that person make a year. They multiply by what they lost. They can then look at the pain and suffering peace and say kay. How much is that worth is. Two times is four times. They add that piece and then they had punitive damages if they actually go that far will in this case there is no way to get to the number that they actually chose anyway. So it's historical in terms of the settlement and it's at the worst possible time it's like. Is there anything else you can do to screw this up right. It just just idiotic. So so that happens so they finished selecting the jury now. Did i read that. They had three alternates. And they're going to let one go. Okay well this is what's really going on here. In fact the judge wanted four alternates which makes more sense yet. You're right it does make more sense but what happened was the court administrator in this case. Because of cova descends because of concerns for the pandemic. We went to limit this number down and backed with. They have done. Is the judge pushed to get this third alternate in place so in fact what they're really doing is they're giving them to just two alternates. That are gonna last this entire trial which is by the way insane. Well i know. It isn't the judges to because i can tell you. I've tried a lot of cases in the state a lot of them. And in those cases what happens you have to pick twelve jurors. I felony have at least one but always actually you always a two alternates or more and the purpose of alternates is for whatever reason somebody doesn't show up. Somebody gets sick. Dare i say had somebody gets covid gets arrested. Somebody goes to the present says something stupid. Yeah who was what the reasons are but for whatever reason the person is removed from the jury okay we remove juror number eleven fine. There's an alternate number seven okay. there's an ultimate. We moved your number four mistrial over so they have three alternates and now they're going to get rid of one of them that that's just asinine. I've used that word a domain would you really can. I just don't get it. It's like they're setting themselves up for failure. Well the real purpose of having alternates like this is to make sure that you have enough and is in the past. And i have discussed in the oj case you go back and you realize. They had a dozen alternates. They used almost every single one of them. The logic behind a case like this is that these people are going to be sequestered. They're going to be put in a hotel someplace in fed terrible meals for month or however long this cakes you never know how long this is gonna take because there's going to be a lot of forensic testimony about this. There are multiple medical examinations. That were done in this particular case. There's a ton of expert testimony. That's going to happen and if there's motions that happened in the middle of this to suppress evidence to exclude evidence or anything else. Those people are still on the hook waiting for something to happen. Still sitting in hotels still eating bad food and we're hoping that they all show up. Yeah right and not do something stupid and knock talk to the press or not. You know there are so many reasons at juror can get kicked off a jury. It's not that difficult. Should somebody want out right now. Misbehavior even amongst the jurors. Themselves and again. I think about this in terms of the the pretrial orders that are made to these jurors so i think about it in cases that i've had where specifically i may run into those jurors hallway in an elevator. Something else. I can't say anything and you all stand in in an elevator together listening to bad music not to stare at one another. And everybody's sort of laughing out of the corner of their mouths because we can but at the same time they're not supposed to discuss the case amongst himself right and so what happens when you're bored and you can only watch so many episodes of game of thrones and all of a sudden you realize that that you're talking to your neighbors about something in those neighbors are also jurors that's too their yup so all of a sudden what's left then so now so what happens between yesterday and monday are their motions being made or is everyone home in preparing for starting on monday. A wonderful question at this point what the judge did was the judge sent everybody home and in fact what they did is as they were picking jurors. They said everybody go home but what will happen when they show on monday. They better bring the toothbrush. Oh okay so so. They know what's going to happen What we also know is at this point. There are no scheduled motions in this case however and this is something that i've been thinking about. There are three charges in this case. we know the show is being charged with second degree unintentional murder. We also know that he's being charged with manslaughter. Right in addition charged with something called third degree murder right. They brought that back in right. That had been dropped and now they brought. They brought that back in. It actually went to the court of appeals. It came down. That was charged. Originally it got pushed back out. In fact there was a previous police officer mohammad nor was charged with killing somebody back in twenty thousand nine hundred and in fact he was found guilty of that charge and that was the case that was actually up at the court of appeals and so that cases now pending before the supreme court. Here's the weird part. The thing is is that the third degree charges kind of a weird charge because the way it really works is this. It really says that if you're shooting into a crowd of people and you're trying to kill this one person and you kill somebody by mistake then you be found guilty of third degree murder. The problem is is that. If you're trying to kill somebody and you kill somebody else says kills others or inadvertently right. It happens that way. The problem is there was no other person here. It's not like derek chauvin was out there trying to kill somebody else right and so. It's a very confusing thing. And if you can make an argument. And i think the defense is sitting here contemplating this right now. They can make an argument to themselves. They very well may here that you know what this this third degree charge is confusing. Constitutionally vague is the language would use therefore they would ask that charges be dismissed as constitutionally vague. Now the thing is is we know that the judge himself is the one who kicked that third degree charge in the first place. He doesn't like it so there is a possibility here on the very back end of this thing that the defense could very will make that motion. Now get that charge dumped and what it does is it it. First of all the voids one potential charge but it also sort of undercuts. The prosecution who's now prepared for three different charges and all of a sudden one of those charges gone. So we're gonna see okay. Well it'll be interesting no matter so it starts on monday with my. My knowledge of a courtroom is from watching the law and order in such shows. Boston legal the practice. La law so does it start with opening statements from both defense and the prosecution. Sure does so. Here's the layout in minnesota and by the way for people who haven't seen any of this. This is live so you can watch this entire draining. Live video videos in the courtroom cameras. Exactly putting gavel-to-gavel but but this is really unique. Because they don't do this not in minnesota. They do not air at all and in fact all they've ever done in the past is they've done a few sentences as a pilot project out of sentencing on a big case a couple of years ago and i was one of the first and there were only a couple of handful tops where they actually sentences and they brought in cameras so they don't do it. This is unique and it sound so it works. Minnesota is there's going to be openings first prosecution than defense the defense can actually defer and wait to do their opening until after the prosecution finishes their case that idea. Well technically the the logic is that what you can do is wait and see what it is. The prosecution does and says before you actually lay something out. But i think in a case like this. It's critical that besides obviously when you're picking that jury you're also wanting to connect with that jury can say there's a bunch of things jurors that you need to think about. A bunch of things have been going to be coming in this case and in fact when this witness gets called when that would gets called i want you to think about this and this and this and this is about t up your case before you start your case hints to give them to give them some seeds of doubt to to to process what they're hearing while the defenses putting on or the prosecution is putting on their case absolutely and that's exactly what will happen so they do those two and then the state will put on their case so in other words they will call witnesses one after the other and at that time. What will happen as they will. They will put a direct examination of whomever they want to put on. Then the defense gets to do a cross examination and they they finish their case at that point and what will happen is they will rest right once. That happens by the way. We're speeding this up. Because this is gonna take week right right. And i'm i'm i'm putting my numbers on and maybe three weeks. Okay just for the for the for the prosecution for the whole trial just for the prosecution to lay out their case why the prosecution's can take longer than i mean. They really are. You're gonna see the defense putting on. Probably a couple of witnesses specifically witnesses dealing with Police behavior police techniques the application of those techniques and y. You're going to see probably more information when it comes to medical exams causes of death whole bunch of things but they have montminy fewer witnesses. Maybe some character witnesses of derek chauvin and ultimately the question will be if derek chauvin himself testifies so once they finish there could be some rebuttal. Witnesses both ways. Once they're done then what will happen in minnesota is. The prosecution will do their closing argument. The defense will do their closing argument. And here's the twist in this state which is kinda strange is at the defense. The prosecution gets to a rebuttal on the defense hunt so in other words they can come in to argue certain things now. This has happened to me before so it frustrates me. When when when i'm sitting in the middle is is you can get bookended. Wow so that's the prosecutor has an advantage here because they absolutely on this issue. And i think that's one of the reasons that they have to really fire fight far too hard here. Maybe that to to to make sure that that they don't get too much and that they limit what that rebuttal testimony could be. The there is one last weird piece that that has a precedent in minnesota that. I'm not aware of any other part of the country. It's something called spark of life. Okay spark of life is unique to minnesota. That i'm aware of and it's happened to me in murder trials so what spark of life is is you can put on all of your witnesses as a prosecution. Last witness you put on is somebody you can put on to talk about the person who died at talk about their life so you can literally say when my son was a little boy my little son wanted to be a cowboy and i mean literally you can put all of the sin and the thing is is that. What's really frustrating about. It is that you can sometimes sliding character evidence and if you bring in character evidence the prosecution guess what gets to happen then defense can literally say so. Let me get this right. You're saying his great guy but what about the reality that he was. He was convicted of this. And because save open the door so they get to explore what they opened the door to but while that may be true problem you can't you you don't get to come back in and questioned again. If they bring it up in the last rebuttal you have no comeback. Well you could. You can actually go after the prosecution witness in terms of that but understand this is this could be this. Could be the dead. Guy's bob right. This could be the dead guy's wife could be significant little girl who said my daddy changed the world you know what and that is exactly the point. I have been in that position where i'm like. I had things i wanted to say. And i wanted to climb up over the does and i look over. In the jury's basically ready to plunge the daggers into my chest limits to what you can do that is part of. What's going to happen in this case there is a lot coming. Oh boy i. It will be fascinating. It'll be interesting to see how much you know. The media covers it. and without the sideshow of trump. There's there's all of a sudden there's room air in the room you know. There's not one person sucking all the air out of every room and every newscast in we're there was too much going on that they couldn't even cover all the crap flying from his orange nonsense so there is an opening there is room. They're covering all kinds of inconsequential stuff. This one is probably going to be the circus that we expect. It will be ever i. I think you're right. You should i should add. You mentioned other things going on. You look at what happened in atlanta. You look at what happened in boulder and and the thing is is that what happens in the world can impact what happens inside of a courtroom too so as a criminal defense attorney one of the things that i could use if i were representing derek. Chauvin in this case is what the world is a dangerous place. I'm dangerous place. Police officers to and in fact police officers are targeted and police. Officers are murdered constantly. Just like this officer in boulder out into the street. You have no idea what's coming at you. That's what derek chauvin had to walk into the time. He cuts that right so they can say that. But i look at it. Is that that george. Floyd sorry did not have a gun. And he wasn't threatening anybody. He allegedly passed a bad twenty. So big difference between a crazy guy with fifteen walking into a grocery store and killing ten people in cold blood and this rogue cop putting his knee on the neck of a man who didn't do anything going to cherry. Oh my god so jack. Rice have only got a few minutes left. I got my my second moderna vaccine today and so far just a sore arm and hopefully knocking on wood laminate. I've heard horror stories from friends who have had reactions to the moderna second. So i'm i'm going at it with a positive attitude. I plan to be here tomorrow. Business as usual. I had the pfizer one about a week last week last week and the thing is is i had covert november right and so and so. I was concerned on my back for like two weeks. I mean i don't get sick. Ever and you know i i was sort of doing stupid guy stuff like you know. I could take this. I've had people shot shoot at me. I got hit by. I can take everything right boy. I was wrapped up in a ball crying for mommy reality. What's bad bad. Not so so good. But the thing is is that i had heard you actually had covert and then you get one of these vaccines it. May it may hit you. And i had it in that first couple of hours even even five or six hours. I'm sort of stomping around. Like no problem. And you know again. I fall back into the i can do this. I can do that by that night's like all of a sudden i started getting cold started shake a little bit and i started to sweat and then i started getting in and then i started spiking fever and it lasted about thirty six hours terrible. That's too yeah yeah. Trust me and my attitude is. I know what it feels like in my koga wasn't nothing was nothing compared to some but i can say that the fact that that that i remember what it felt like to have that i'll take the shot and by the way i have no hesitation about going to get the next one either. Was your first one so you should be getting your second one now next week. I guess so. I think talks about right yeah. My husband had the pfizer and he still has brain fog but he he feels the effects of an aspirin. He feels everything. He's very sensitive. I is of course. Always no wasted permitted clear on this of now and i on the other hand have such a high tolerance that for instance. If i take like an edible i get effects from it. You know people trip. On edibles of cannabis and i don't feel it so i usually don't react to stuff like this. He does so. Hopefully i won't have anything more than a sore arm. But i'll deal with whatever it is. I just got off the phone. I called before. I brought you on. I called over to israel. I do this from time to time. I'll call foreign countries to get their take on something tap and is israel's israel just had their election and again. Netanyahu failed to get enough support to form. A this is the fourth time in two years So i did this the last time and spoke to some wonderful woman at a hotel who who just hated him and we had the best conversation so i thought well let's try again. It didn't go as well this time. But i did speak to a lovely man at a different hotel. Who didn't want to get into politics. Just wants everyone to get along and love one another and have peace which is a good sentiment. But then i asked him if he got the vaccine and he said no he had gotten covert and over there. They're not they're not vaccinating people who actually got sick with the virus not yet anyway. Isn't that interesting. I know the number of what they were doing. We're extraordinary when you look at the percentage of people who actually have been vaccinated in. Israel is incredible although there have been some reports that some of the as the israelis put it the the The The israeli arabs. That's what they call them and some of them have not been vaccinated and that that is also seeming to be true in gaza and in the west bank. You know but one thing. I have learned and i remember covering the war in in gaza and west bank and and even when i was in places like tel aviv on the israeli side. You know as as was told there says you talked to five jews and you're gonna get ten opinions. I understand that you know there's no such thing. As an american opinion either depends about who yes no genius are a lunatic or both and this clerk at the hotel which was playing ambassador saying come on over and visit we have. We now have american tourists coming back. You should come visit. It's beautiful year so you know he was doing his job trying to book some rooms. I guess at this lovely hotel. I have a passport. I have one shot. I'm getting close to two and boy. I want to be on an airplane to go somewhere. So what do you do with your cases here when you're traveling. Well you know. i'm. That's the nice thing is i can control what i'm doing you know so so i know what's coming at me. It's pretty strange. I have to tell you because a lot of these cases have been on hold for a long time mean you mentioned you know what it kind of looks like in the courtroom. The thing is is that these courtrooms this courtroom in mentally. I can see pictures right because of cova. They're separating everybody and everything well the the other part is is that is that you know everybody knows what what sort of the jury box looks like crowded. It's sort of a big box and there's two rows of people that's what you'll see. The box is gone in this case. Completely and what they have is they have all these cheer spread out like six feet apart and so they're spread all the way across one of the entire walls of The the the courtroom and in fact. There's there's no area for people to go and sit anymore. It was just well and there's only a couple of spaces for people to come and watch. We have cameras in place and we have space for all of the teams but otherwise this is. This is much different than i have to tell you. Standing in front of juries. It's a much different experience that you're trying to drive them to do things or when you're trying to understand what somebody feels or thinks and this issue of whether they can or can't wear a mask is a massive deal. I'm getting ready to try case here in just a couple weeks and i'm thinking about what it means where i'm going to be on top of everybody at least in the sense of trying to make sure there aren't masks trying to make sure that we can actually connect and that's going to be a challenge because a lot of us have been hunkering down in our basement. Yeah yellow well. Can you have a stipulation that everybody who sits on the jury gets vaccinated. I see i actually. I think that'd be a great idea. I think so then we can also back and talk about it and say okay before we start an injury selection ladies and gentlemen what had really liked to do with his. Let's talk about the last year for a minute. I want to know what your lives are like. What what what. What made you different. What made you the same or maybe more of the same. I actually want to know. Maybe because i'm looking for ideas. I know i just i feel like this has been so monumental for a lot of people that that i want to just have those conversations because i don't know people even don't talk to each other i don't either i don't i don't i don't think we do. I think just being out in public being around other people. This is gonna take a. There's gonna be a learning curve. It's going to be a whole new experience for so many it's been a year. We've been locked at home for a year. I was thrilled to get my second shot today. Now i'm counting the days two weeks two weeks i can go hug. My kid could tell me where you this way too. I'm standing in line. You know there's like six or seven or eight people in front of me and there's nurses walking around and and and it was one of those things where for me. I was in a room with a lot of people. And i'm not used to being on with a lot of people anymore and i have to sort of recalibrate what that means. I mean we all notice what it's like. You walk if you have to go to the grocery store or any place else if somebody walks near you veer out and when you walk into the grass you the street you know we just push off from people who get close. And i don't think that's just physical. I think that's even emotional and mental now too. Yeah so those of us. Who do what i do for a living. This is part of the struggle is to say. Maybe we'll never be the same right. Maybe we'll be able to come back exactly how we were. But how do we connect our. How do we Emote how do we empathize with one. Another in a point when we just shut ourselves down for a year. And of course i think about that in the context of my sixteen year old daughter. And what happens when you're a tenth grader. And to think in context of your whole life when for mick probably feels like forever. I can't even imagine. I'm glad my kid is done with school. And so is she's in a different place. It still every age has its challenges. The fact is she moved out. And i have not been able to really see her since she moved out. So i'm just counting the days now. I got two weeks to go. And but you know. I wear when i go out. I wear an end. Ninety five covered by another mask and a face shield. I've a husband who because of you know i'm down. Most of my left lung doesn't let he does all the grocery shopping. he does everything. I really have not left this house except to go to the doctor in a year and walked the dog. that's so. I'm looking forward to sort of slowly getting back into the world but whatever that's gonna look like and i think it's gonna look very different so i think it is for a lot of people i i sort of hope at least from for me too. I hope we can see it. Like i'm getting ready to move by the way. And maybe this is the analogy. I'm just moving across town. Not diaz. But what i mean is that is that moving across town is sort of like when you go through and you go on your closet and say where did all of this crackle and you start throwing this out and the why do i have six this thing. I don't even like it and all of a sudden you start getting rid of all of these things in your life that you don't want and i wonder if we're going to be able to do the same thing and say yeah i. I didn't really like this so much. I didn't like that about myself. I didn't like what i was doing with. This and i can recalibrate in the very same way. I guess i'm trying to do when i move into a different space. Yeah i guess. I think we're all reexamining a lot of things you know. Some friends of or i should say old friends of ours who we haven't been friendly with long time. We saw photos of a party. That happened last weekend and was like i. I looked i thought maybe this was a memory from a year ago and brought it into dave and i said look. Look what happened this weekend. Look at look at all the people who were there and not a mask in sight. I'm sorry i don't wanna be around those people. This is just that was that was in florida. Wasn't it in florida where it's allowed because we have a governor death sentence who you know i guess once everyone to die i hate to say i. I feel like a lot of us have really tried to to. We've given up a lot. We've tried to do a lot in the last year trying to to help. Address this issue but try to protect ourselves at the same problem. There's the party you that wants to say well. Fine. let's just. Let's just wall florida. Just on the northern border and say good luck in florida but but then like me get get enough florida. I get you. But i don't wanna say about texas because they're good people everywhere. It's not a good people. I'm concerned about all right i. I'm concerned that they get sick. It's too crazy that i'm concerned about what they're willing to do. And how they can have an impact far beyond themselves. Look we're we're this close to be over the the hump to coming out on the other side and these idiots are partying it up on south beach. I just unbelievable adjust then these other idiots partying it up. I just i. I'm sorry. I don't feel the same way i was supposed to be teaching lawyers prosecutors in dara salaam and they had to cancel it because of the pandemic and so i've been doing some teaching online with these really extrordinary prosecutors and they're great. And where is this. And dora salaam wears that that's in tanzania the capital tansy. And so i'm supposed to be or in tanzania's. They'll say in tanzania and i'm supposed i'm supposed to be there and yet i'm not there at least partially because these yahoo gun in florida down the these parties all the florida now it all texas. By the way their yahoos here in minnesota they're everywhere right lunatics everywhere. But there was. I don't get to go to tanzania because of them. If i'm not going to tanzania and i have to stay in my house than they should have to stay in their houses. Sorry damn straight jack. Rice always right. Thank you sir. You got my vote on. The jury is going to give him my daughter by sixteen year olds. I should i should. We should let her talk to allison allison's moving to she just took another job. And i can't even help her. Look for an apartment and get moved in. I have two weeks. I've two weeks so it's harder on me than anything else. Not being able to deal with my kids not being able to help remove apartment hunt. You know do anything. So that's the that's been the worst part of it for me. So pissed off kilter by the way their opening statements on the show trial or starting on monday Racist this is going to be a very big deal. All right real quick. We're so late anyway. We've run over but in the chat room. Out of the of my. I a couple of people going out. This show. Ventura chauvin trial. Nobody cares to you think nobody cares. I have a feeling this is going to be everywhere that this is going to be. I think everybody cares and everybody should care because if another cop gets off with murdering a black man who didn't do anything to deserve it I really i worry what comes next. Well i know when. I've heard other people say that. And this is what i would say to them directly if i could is that white police officers have been killing people of color for centuries this is nothing new this nothing new. The only difference now is there are a whole bunch of people who are walking around with hd cameras in their pockets. That's right so now what we have our videos that are undeniable. The problem now is that if you have something that is undeniable and you still don't care you are the problem and with that. There's a perfect note to end on jack. Rice find him at jack. Rice law dot com as the website. Him on the twitter suggest crises on facebook everywhere and he'll be checking in with us throughout the trial because a lot of people do care i care and and i'm coming to it from a very biased place. I want to see this guy fry. He needs to be held accountable for what he did. And hopefully this will stop other cops from doing the same kind of shit because it's gotta stop there. Thank you jack rise. I'll talk to you talk to you soon. I'm sure all right you too. Bye-bye jack rice. Everybody and now you know. I love having him on the show or you already did anyway. All right so i'm gonna leave you. I may as well just leave you with what's news because there is news that again. I didn't get to today so we'll do this. We'll see tomorrow covid vaccine because to me thanks. Everyone knew it's time for new. Coal sandler's looks news from nicole sandler dot com and the progressive voices network. President biden on tuesday said congress should tighten gun laws in the wake of the mass shooting in colorado supermarket. That left ten people dead including a police officer who was the first to respond to reports of gunfire biden called for closing background check loopholes and banning high capacity magazines and semi automatic military style. Guns like the one reportedly used in the monday shooting. Boulder's city council had banned assault style rifles but a judge six days before the shooting ruled that they lacked the authority to do so so the ban was overturned. And that's when the boulder shooter bought the gun. He used to murder ten people united states. Senate hope some are listed should immediately pass to house passed with those loopholes in the background. Check system bills to receive votes of both republicans and democrats in the house. This is not as should not be a partisan issue. Just an american issue it will save lives american lives in the process. That was president. Joe biden calling for a nationwide ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines in his first remarks. Since a gunman armed with a military style rifle and a semiautomatic pistol opened fire at boulder colorado supermarket. The boulder attack came less than a week after. A gunman killed eight people at three spas in the atlanta area. Well we now know the identities of the ten victims of monday's shooting and we know more about the shooter to whose name i will not use. We do know he was taken into custody after the shooting and faces ten counts of murder. We still don't know his motive though. The denver post reported that the twenty one year old was considered my friends to be violent and short tempered and high school. Then why was he allowed to buy a gun. He was treated for a gunshot wound to the leg and again charged with ten counts of first degree murder. Just two weeks ago. The democratic led house of representatives. Passed two bills that would expand background checks on all commercial gun sales. The worry is that as with past pushes for gun reform. Nothing will actually pass. In case you were wondering. Senator joe manchin said he would not support universal background checks the spot on capitol hill wednesday will be in the senate rules committee where they're taking up the for the people act. That's the voting rights and election overhaul proposal. What happens with this. Bill will affect the future of the senate so both senate majority leader. Chuck schumer and minority leader mitch. Mcconnell will be there though leaders rarely attend committee hearings but the stakes are high. The four of the people act would expand voter registration and make it easier to vote by mail vote. Early independent redistricting commissions would take politics and politicians out of the business of redrawing congressional districts. Super pacs would be forced to disclose big donors and new limits would be placed on their ability to coordinate with campaigns. A public financing system would be created for house candidates who focus on small dollar donations. The federal elections commission would be shaken up. New ethics requirements would be imposed on the supreme court and congress presidential and vice presidential candidates would be required to disclose their tax returns all necessary reforms. The bill is reported to be supported by every democrat in the senate except for joe mansion. The house passed its version on a party. Line vote two weeks ago and the democrats say passing. This bill is critical as republicans in dozens of states are rushing to enact stricter voting requirements. The former guy and his republican allies claimed there was widespread. Voter fraud that cost him the white house in november but no proof of that ever emerged and they lost more than sixty court challenges to the election results enough already. The jury has been seated in the murder trial of former minneapolis. Police officer derek. Chauvin for the death of george floyd the unarmed black man who died in custody after chauvin pressed a knee into his neck for nearly nine minutes. The jury selection process took eleven days. Opening arguments are set to begin on monday. The jury includes three black men one black to mixed race women and nine white jurors defense attorneys unsuccessfully tried to delay and move the trial after the city agreed to pay record. Twenty seven million dollars to floyd family to settle their wrongful death lawsuit. The house of representatives on monday held its first hearing on dc statehood but the senate is where the real battle will reside jon. Ossoff senator from georgia on tuesday added his name to the list of forty three other. Senators endorsing the idea. Well tuesday marked the eleven th anniversary of the passage of the affordable. Care act president biden who famously remarked that it was a big effing deal use the occasion to announce that the special enrollment period for the affordable. Care act will be extended until august fifteenth. This change will allow americans who lost their insurance along with their jobs to the pandemic to get coverage. Meanwhile more of joe biden's cabinet nominees have been confirmed. Dr vivek murthy was confirmed as us surgeon general role. He held before in the obama administration. Chilanga young was confirmed as the deputy director of the office of management and budget to asian. American senators tammy duckworth and maisy hirono had raised issues about the lack of asian american representation on biden's team but they've backed down off. Threats to oppose certain nominees after the white house agreed to add a senior level. Asian american pacific islander liaison north korea conducted its first weapons tests since biden took office launching projectiles last weekend. The test had been widely expected and officials have downplayed. The event is falling quote on the low end of the spectrum of provocative actions. The regime could carry out. The projectiles were reportedly not ballistic missiles. Designation that the administration says does not qualify as a serious breach. Just something to be aware of the fourth time should tell you something. no israeli. Parliamentary elections on tuesday resulted in another deadlock for the fourth time in the past two years the exit polls on israel's three main television stations indicated that both netanyahu and his religious and nationalist allies along with a group of anti netanyahu parties all fell short of the parliamentary majority required to form a new government that raised the possibility of yet another unprecedented fifth consecutive election. Later this year. This vote was seen as a referendum on netanyahu and the initial results showed that the country remains as deeply divided as ever with a number of small sectarian parties dominating the parliament sadly the results also showed a continuing shift of the israeli electorate toward the right which supports west bank settlements and opposes concessions in peace talks with palestinians speaking to supporters early wednesday. 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Really Awful Movies: Ep 266  Blair Witch

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Really Awful Movies: Ep 266 Blair Witch

"Up of the news. This evening is speculation concerning the real facts behind the department of health announcement about a radioactive spill supposed to have a cut yesterday at the state nuclear plant. You'll die only to live again in a young body. Then you could tell me if the operation was a success. Weeklies? German to have your brain. You're listening to the really awful movies podcast celebration of genre. Cinema. Hi, my name is Chris along with Jeff. We talk about movies that aren't really awful at all horror action kung FU musicals post-apocalyptic women prison films, much, much more. What is the guy were quoted this video said it was from Tapie out in the black hills woods. I think that might be my sister. Really think your sister could still be out there all these years. Could find out what happened to her and to try? Legend said there's been curse on these ones. Do you believe mysteries about the Blair witch? From downtown headquarters. Here's episode to sixty six Blair witch. I was thinking of a song today, which the hell notes, no rich girl rich girl, which is that we she's a witch girl. She's it was written by the same guy who did somewhere over the rainbow, and it's called essentially the positive a bunch of people have done it accentuate. And I thought men like going into this movie the twenty year anniversary of the release of the Blair witch project with all the critical lambasting that it received in my little scant research did before watching it. And I thought men I'm going to go into it with a fresh take because it's spring is in the air. And I'm thinking, I'm going to look for all the positives that can find now if that were the case, this would be very short podcast. So hoping you have something to bring to the Scottish here next. Exactly next week here one. Yeah. Exactly. Now in our green room preparations before the show, you mentioned that this was the first not this. Okay. The Blair witch project. I Hora film. You saw in the cinema. It was it was. I mean, this is because of the fact that it was a late limit order. And I've talked about this many many times on the show. I'm sure our listeners love hamsters are sick and tired of hearing my story. But of course, just a quick recap got into hor in my early twenties and. Thomas individuals store and started grabbing everything I could and around the tail end of the nineties on the double Indian, I guess it was nineteen ninety nine. I started hearing rumblings of this new very interesting unique concept of horror, independent low budget, guerrilla style found footed never been done before. All this is in quotes is not your opinion. Exactly. And I mean, the the hype was enormous everybody was talking Blair witch Blair, which was the IBM. I don't even know if it was if I'm gonna say it was like the horror movie event of that year is almost like the movie event of that year and not only I can only match it akin to like what was the exorcist came out. Your the extras come out approximately I want to say seventy three. Yeah. So kind of before time we bid, but with everybody's saying oh my God. You guys see because we we this. The Scherzinger remain. A scary thing ever made well to this day. I kind of take the fact that the exorcist is we ever made a lot of people hold up Pinon. It's, but it's a good movie role crafted movie, I do think the excess three is way better. But that's another story for another podcast. Anyhow, I keep hearing about this Blair witch movie. And I wanna see it, and I was working now. No longer working in a video. We're gonna bookstore. The bookstore was in a mall. So my shift ended up three PM, and I decided that I was going to go down to the cinema in the mall participate. Go by myself and see the Blair witch project, the -ticipant fear. I had was tremendous. It was pulp like feel my heart beating just think to myself like what is going to be in store for me. Not only it wasn't really think I've never seen horror movie in the theater before. It's not true. Because I well I ran out of one I was young kid. House of wax. I saw two minutes of it back along long as it wasn't Paris Hilton have select, but okay. But anyway, so I was paid for my ticket above my popcorn. Got my soda. I walk into the theater think three o'clock in a Wednesday. It wasn't exactly pactel's quarter full. And I was so nervous. Because what I'm expecting is the scariest harrowing experience that sin Mayes ever produce. And this is what the hype was had led me to believe. So the lights fade, the Qurqus part, the movie begins, and I'm watching it. And he got I'm still really really tense and live in eating my popcorn. What's going to? And then about ten fifty minutes in. I'm sorry to ease up been since. I'm like what's going on here? This isn't exactly scary. And because of that, I just relaxed more much my popcorn watching the film for what it was. Was of course, at that point found footage or was novel to me, I mean, of course, the existence cabraha holocaust moves at done this before him. But I enjoyed that aspect of all. I didn't find it scary. But it stayed with me and were really really stayed with me was really about the last two or three minutes of the movie. That was scary. Now, what used to do is? I used to see when I was moving to cinema is as soon as it came out for rental, then rented and see it again. And so I did the same thing with Blair witch project and. This time, you know, watch. Again, just reaffirmed. My thoughts were as were through my cinematic viewership of it all and yet. Again, I found the final and the final shot to be scary. But then left my mind, and I've not thought of it thought of it. Because I mean, this thing pretty much started this found footage even want to quagmire on itself into and amazingly enough blade project, in my opinion, started the found footed that I thought would be very live. Just like I thought was virus star. The rarity TV creates short lived here. All these low these years later, it's still going. Meanwhile, it just kept going going and going the fucking energizer bunny. But I think is ironic is what finally killed footage is a viable commercial horror sub genre two thousand sixteen player with whom soap to make short. I move ever saw theater. I was the reputation preceded it I saw it. I was expecting more than what I got. But I respected. I appreciate it. I did find the little bit of nervous that I thought about it that night for went to bed, and whenever and then a couple years later sequel came out to book of shadows never seen it. And that was pretty much curriculum base as most commercially, whom I go, I'm by no means an eminent journalist, but at the time, I was maybe an imminent journalist. So I was writing these awful reviews of different things. I was young guide note I was doing and I was trying to pitch different publications on my take on concerts and art and whatnot. None of which was getting published at the time. So if you dig somewhere on the interwebs, there might be in web cache of a letter to the editor penned of all things about malaria which project, and it irked me to no end that the thing was as popular as it was. And I was the, oh, I want to say it was I magazine which became the grid and then folded or are alternative weekly. Yeah. It was an alternative weekly might have been now magazine, and I was going into the weeds with this critical. Hot take about how it would have been impossible to get lost in the woods. One of the most densely populated states in the US. And where is near the the ocean, they have crabs famously Maryland crabs, and they've crabcakes I just thought why not just walk east annex? I would that help you out of the woods. Well, I mean, you just hike for about three hours, and then you're at the ocean. So I don't understand how I'm speaking with the prejudice of on terro because we live in this densely flick. It would where you could get lost very easily the thing to task these idiots get out of the would because they couldn't no I realize that young guy got his turn to do this movie ever kind of a comic book guy. Move worst ever via within minutes. I was registering my on internet. I couldn't believe that. And then they published it was like, whoa. Someone publish my work. So I was taking this thing to the letter to the it was. I've written a few of the editor. If I told you to editor I would be say because most ever, but I just wanted to see my name and my name preempts. I wrote the Rolling Stone magazine commending them on their cover feature on the fucking spin doctors and saying how much you know, what a good band spin doctors that is particularly shameful Varel gall, eight imprinted. Thank god. I don't have the albatross. Because my love the spin-doctors pretty much lasts about maybe like, we can have home. I I was glad I was able to hone my craft. So that like my parliament Funke Delic definitive concert reviewed never saw the light of day. So I mean, this stuff was really awful. But frankly, I'd rather discuss the move the spin doctors. You wish film? Well, what's stuck with me? And believe me it was not much from the first one. And I believe I saw it in the cinemas. Well, I must have because I don't think I would have rented it, but just to have like an upshot of someone's nostril, and that really stuck with me this woman's quivering whimpering crying mean and demeanor at the end of this movie, and it's just this. I always thought how could you be so solid cystic to film yourself while you're getting murdered like put down the camera and do something about it. Which is something which is urged me with the found footage genre ever since when I think back, maybe if you know, you're going to die, and like this has happened when planes are about to go down you go. You wanna listen. Yes. To moral legacy. What have? Yeah. Although I don't know does that selves the the enterprise the fact that I could maybe in the light in light of the today to look back and see that for what it could. Be. I don't think so because the conceit I think is very weak the found footage concede worked at the time because I haven't been done to death. There wasn't clear he'd it wasn't implausible like a lot of times when you think who this movie the Blair witch two thousand sixteen there's so many times who the fuck is is supposed to be found like their time. When it seemed like it was found footage, and there are other times when it didn't even care to keep up the pretense. But the other thing the other story about Blair witch project is that it was a real Hollywood success story. The sense you had these two independent filmmakers the self-financing movie with. I'm sorry, don't remember the names of the two filmmakers. Sanchez at water. Sanchez have been one at Dover. Call the other one anyhow they sell finance this movie for peanuts. It got picked up for distribution and made hundreds of millions of dollars and became a cultural phenomenon. Now yet again, I don't recall the budget. They touted though something ridiculous like thousands. I don't know. It was like something that you know, like pockets when it comes to the cinematic something put up on the screen. You know, what a lot of realized was. Yes, that's how much it costs to make it. But then when it got distribution the studio them put in a lot more money for post production to sort of make it more movies, not excetera. So I really wasn't as keep to make as a lot of people time. Time like L Marriott. For example, Robert Rodriguez that things may for seven grant, even then I guess to put into bit of money to for the Qatar posters. But even the whole endeavor might cost less than fifteen twenty thousand Blair witch. I think the budget was it was definitely within the six figure once all the polls projects that are was done. But the thing made two million dollars who knows and it was as I said, it created not only a phenomenon not only was it became part of this guys. But it it's spawned this sub genre. That would not end just like scream despond, the sub-genre of self referential horror that went on and on and on. And I it was amusing I was novel. I was entertaining. And then, you know, you just get this one pale carbon copy after another after another copy of a copy of copy and everything just gets looted and everything becomes worse. And I personally tired of the myself tired of the found footage on. I would say we started our blog. And so many indie movies all footed, some are quite good. But unfortunately, the wheat number the chief. Reverts? Sorry. Shaff outnumber the week by an exponential amount. Well, you mentioned L mariachi. I think in a good analogy would be how the electric guitar hides. A lot of flaws in musicality because you can crank up the distortion crank up the reverberate, whatever and. If you just hand someone a camera and say detail the proceedings I mean, where does the art and the amateur chronicling begin? But that's where I find fault with the conceit because especially in Blair witch, two thousand sixteen and the first one that you don't know where it ends and begins. There's a time and place for everything particularly found footage. So when you think cannibal holocaust, they find footage, but the movie is not found footage. The movie is people going through the jungle and encountering cannibals. And then they find something. So the something that they find the the movies footage is found, and then they're trying to sort of figure it out that makes sense that I mean, that's sort of the way in the sense that they said, you know, tapes found that we never heard from these kids and which. Yeah. I mean, this is another thing. I mean, there's so much by just about this new Blair witch. But. When I was a kid. I move. I loved invariably spawned sequels. Now, sometimes of movie was a hit. But the principles really wanna come back for the sequel. So you have different actor playing different characters only ten gently related to like, for example, team will to know the fly to all the stuff fight. It was good team too. I remember because you know, I mean, I don't recall a gang release of Anthony. I might have seen Afrin the paper and those movies like open close in the same. And when I say teen will to its team of key. Oh because it was Jason Bateman in his sin about debut. I mean, he was already on TV HOGAN family were have you take over from FOX, and he played a cousin to FOX's character. And all the same beats were hit just with a different character and small little cages basketball became boxing. But it was the same as a kid. I call this. Rerun sequels and everytime would like go to Theseus sequel rent all I really hope is not a rerun sequel the last time replacing reruns sequel, I was hold onto. I felt they're just you know, hitting all the same beats. But just caging it from a suburban home in Chicago to Waller for story. I believe it was in New York City and watching the Blair witch twenty sixteen it's the same fucking nothing different, dude. Yeah. Just the minor update of technology which in this. Yeah. And really the I'm not sure because it's the originalist sort of my memory banks, with the exception of the up nasal shot there. But my God this Burkitt's Phil Maryland Lor never has smaller place produce so much practically like the Loch Ness monster. I mean, the characters in this move is the venture out into the woods to seek. The sister of the the the missing sister a link the link between the fills the Mike God, they just. Heather brother, Heather James, looking for Heather in the woods. And my God is this lower built up and think this was centuries old this town because they chronicle one murder one disappearance one weird happenstance after another Stephen king's. Entries over and over and over again. I mean, my, and I'm pretty sure this wasn't part of the original mistake or maybe lack there of the first one. I mean, this really there in the beginning. And again, this is going by memory from twenty years ago. But I do believe that there was a rash of disappearances. And so on which I could see not just this highly detail thing again, this town of few hundred people, and so you have a bunch of principals, none of whom I can really honestly remember both from the first hand twenty sixteen venturing out into the woods to seek evidence for the disappearance of one of them's their sister. And also to enlist the help of a couple local rednecks who may be no, this the woods, a little more to be sort of fixers to help this filmmaker go into the woods. But that's I I'm guessing that's the exact same thing. So no new that that that is a new beast because the original was just the three kids. There was no one listening of any help. I mean here you had to about seven people double the victim. As you said the technology was was increase they had drones. Now, we have cell phones, etc. They had to talk about that. They had GPS is also Lord I mean, so they have to dismiss a lot technology but getting back to how the ritual film was made the actors that played the three principles. I remember the name have. I don't remember the two other guys. I think it was two guys one girl might have been. They were amateurs they were one hundred percent amateurs they had never acted before. And frankly, I don't think they've done much since. And love it was improvised to and a lot of it. Lot of it was the the principals not being told like you're gonna wake up, and you're gonna find this told him we're gonna wake up and. This might be. In other words, there's sort of reacting to things that I didn't know it was going to happen. So that kind of lent it and because it wasn't. It was still in the it had the story like cinema verite style. Yeah. These all in the films favor, that's a subtle distinction. Because good acting does the exact same thing. Force. Feeding someone is situation. But I see your point. Naturalists? And you dig it the naturalistic feel that the first one which I did not get it all in twenty sixteen Blair witch. It it just felt like people acting a script and poorly for that matter. Yeah. And they're venturing out into the woods. And I think this is where I'm going to introduce my accent, positively here. The woods are really great here. And I said to my girlfriend will we're watching this is like they location scouted. This awesome place with this fantastic running river, and there's darkness and Neri. Does the daylight punctuate the forest canopy, unlike men, this is great. We talked about the original Dono twenty six twenty sixteen. There's a nice forest, and you have people who are lost there and great this is a fantastic setting, and you could just have had bickering amongst the six of them. You have a great scene that you've established and. And yet everything is sort of thrown asunder when the end up in the stupid hut, which is a coal back to the first one, which is the witches hut. Speaking of the, you know, the Wichai woman from Seinfeld here though, which hut stupid. Right. But and pointless considering invested all this. I mean, you really don't need much for film. We've talked about place importance of setting importance of grounding foundation, and you need this tres ear invested. Yeah. And the so far I'm lender. The tag or the protagonists, of course in this. When the Italianised some ephemeral being that we never see and that thing, so it's the first so you feel on the front where you're investing in the characters because apart from some meat up where they go to someone's house, and and compile their equipment and then go out with their camping gear into the woods. No investment. No interest other than the fact that a couple of shit lords edge, lords, whatever you wanna call them are. Are seem to be self professed experts on the topic, but they add really little of any value. One guy's name is lane. He's these like first person shooter and a trenchcoat kind of Gough to generate types, and that when they're telling the stories of the legends, you know, that the students call what have you they're laughing at them. And so on and bring down like, you know, groups were Sophisticat sort of thing like try to find something grasp onto the manically. But there's nothing, but it's funny because you mentioned the woods right now. That's very germane to this discussion reason being because this film was shot by of course, Angwin garden and well directed some bear road it they're known for your next year, which is good. Yeah. Yeah. Your voice inflection. It was like Barbara Crampton was in. She was fun. She's always great to see. It's in our book. Yeah. It's like there's various rube Goldberg contraptions that are involved to lay waste to some of the I like. Protagonist. And it was it had a good sense of place. It was fairly well done like a grudging seven at attack. Interesting. Even before that they made a film called a horrible way to die. As did you see that? No. It was good. It was good. Now. The follow up to your next because I fill out a lot of height barley. Well, was a film that just basically was a blip on the radar was called the guests. I saw Netflix, and it didn't leave me any impression whatsoever. In other words. I didn't love it didn't fill out the guest books. I glad I saw this. No. Other than my guest. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So this was interesting. The Mark again, the marketing this film was better than the actual film. Just like with the with the original Blair witch because it was being shot under the working title of the woods and then in point sixteen. I guess you have I believe it was the south by southwest festival, which is actually going on right now as we're recording this, and they were going to screen, the new Ataman guard, film, the woods, and then when the curtain goes up, so the woods it's Blair witch. Nobody knew this was coming. This was like a stealth sequel and everybody went AAC shit like they were. And then when we're the anti see the movie because when word leaked that this. This is happening. We're getting a new Blair witch. And it's coming from to filmmakers that are now held in high esteem, you know, I mean, they're no this before that death notation did for Netflix. I haven't seen but apparently. Log people really not seen it either. So once again, that's NAMI of hype. Is there people are like this? I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait enough time pass at the stink of blades to book shadows aided. And there was goodwill people really excited this until it opened up until opening weekend with sawn really damn what the fuck I'm game for some. Storytelling involving the woods because I saw the forest and the theater. The mystique of the Japanese. I think it's outside of Tokyo. The suicide your Zeus. Meaning you saw the movie the. Force for the tree L. This this draw drew upon the very real suicide for outside of Tokyo that has claimed hundreds of victims to the point where warning signs are apparently all over the place to I mean, much like the suicide barriers where the here in Toronto on this bridge. We have the subway crosses over. I bought into that mystique of the and I read up on it, and that's filled me with dread, and the which the film didn't really capture to the extent maybe documentary, I think would've so then they might have been better served to have a more documentary style feel I bought into the original mystique of Blair witch. Because I think that is great to build up the lower. And I think that's fantastic with they did at south by south west that would have been mind blowing. That's a great stunt worthy of. The Tingler or or anything with Lloyd Kaufman. So that that's pretty bad. But it's just in terms of the execution like you have to bolster your lower with execution and technically exact ulcer the Lord adds something new to the Lord. There was not maybe I should say nothing. But there was hardly anything to like, I said before this is a rerun sequel this film, with the exception of a few little things here. And there all it did was hit the exact same beats of the original. And I'm telling you half, the movie was just walking around the woods, yelling people's names said the same thing like whose name are they gonna call out? Now, it's like Ashley Ashley that's one of the the black girl friend of one of the protagonists. And then Heather Heather Heather headed with James James James thinking jeeze, maybe they paid the screenwriter by the. Word like what's going on? More lisa's. But I'm thinking I mean, God it's held in much higher regard than this. But we were neither of us was left with a solid impression of the Halloween twenty eighteen because it was just beat for beat Halloween to mixed with some of the first and just another escape from from an asylum, but speak effing deal to credit of Halloween. Twenty teen are dissenting voice. Yeah. There are other centers. But there were a lot of people really liked it. Whereas with this one it was unanimously nanosecond critics audiences everybody realized even had and you know, they're just paying for second verse same as the first. Yeah. But nothing of any substance added to the law, and if you're creating war, that's a great sandbox plan. If for sure and Laura has to be grounded in gritty realism as well which in order to get a payoff from the. Supernatural elements, and when you have the group hiking through the woods, and they crossed the stream and they're carrying thousand dollars worth of Queant and they're crossing a fast moving river. And I'm thinking what is going on here? This is as absolately ridiculous. Find a better safer crossing. This is absurd. I wouldn't even go across this with like a cannon DEA seller. I mean, you're you're clumsy. Maybe. Woman cuts. Her foot. This is pretty impressive wound and she should have been screaming or tits off. And it's this gaping three or four inch wound that really needs stitches fallen on my head to get stitches Ospel don't say that explains a lot, please, Jeff. No. And this is a serious girlfriend pointed out, and then I noticed that you cannot continue with this kind of injury, you go back to your van you go back to car, and you go to the nearest whatever. Baltimore lost calming carry on base. Yeah. This is like this woman has a stiff upper lip and she just ventures forward. I mean, come on. This is serious business going without shoes through this river as well. I apologize. I was distracted from home because I was looking my nose, and I kind of chuckled because I'm just rain down of he was going on going on. And then all of a sudden, I heard something there's something out there. See I wrote is here we go again shit. Basically. That's it. You had those local guests fixtures, fixtures, whatever they believe in and you have the skeptical sophisticates. But as soon as I heard that won't thing what was that? What's going on? Sequences started. Again, it was like groundhog day of forcing all my Lord. You mentioned that the woods were good the actual setting. Yep. I personally again, we can go down the woods see much less for boating in this one. Oh, and I think it's because of the difference in digital versus. The first one was VHS. It wasn't this pristine image of look like something that you would literally find in the woods. Like, this is funny porna- maggot, if you're gonna hit that was phenomenon or a lot of people, I never did it. But a lot of young kids apparently either hit or found pornography in the woods when they're young. We found pornography and apart in my buddy Ari stashed it in a treat in in the in the trunk, and then we went out early in the morning before parents were up to go get sit on a park bench in Toronto to see this, you know, contraband porno and my dad saw us out. There asked us what we are doing what we had in our hands. We are trying to conceal it under jackets, and he was not a happy, man. He's a very he was very stern old school talion taskmaster. Commandeered the hustler from us ripped it to shreds and gave me like a solid tounguelashing, and it was pretty bad deeply embarrassed. Attention. Since I brought up in the world. Yeah. So what a segue here. I am maybe about fourteen years old and a mutual friend of ours. Because at the time, I was very nomadic as a child and moved around a lot and for a very brief period. Because now I'm living in the city again, but mostly growing up I lived in the burbs, and as you and for very brief period. We got we lived in a very tiny condominium. Maybe four hundred square feet me. My mother my sister, right at bam bluer, which is like the heart the city and mutual friend of ours. Came by his name is a really basic store, we're fourteen and we wanna walk down young street. Right. Which is what can you compare young street to well, forty second street? I think with all the porno shops and this strip strip clubs since somewhat gentrify snow, but it used to be able you want to you know, you look at the head shops etcetera, you want to Samantha FOX Bush a window. Of record shops kid get his jollies walking down and going to these lists stores. Right. And maybe looking at things that were you know, like again, you may see like some Bubis Llamas podcast. So we're crossing the street now this was the month of December. And as crossing the street this like older, but not old navy like millage gruff man with this giant bag like like a hefty garbage bag. He reach his pulse. Something out and he starts poking it in our friends ribs. Dick dig at take it and. Our friend. The wanna take it nor did I and because take take take it and poked me in his ripped harder and harder and harder and the lake changed. Okay. Take it just take it. So because we got it'd be across you're gonna get away from this ninety. Right. So what we we what it was something wrapped in plain Brown paper. We went into like an alcove or an alibi or something we ripped it open, and it was three ten thousand magazines. So it's funny because I think this guy is almost like the smutty version of Santa Claus giving kids foreign grabbing Maga's corner. Didn't that cowboy experience you're having in the big city Jesus. But this is how we react, man. I said friends, I said leave it there. Let's go scared, and we dropped it. And we ran up we ran the three blocks back to my where it was living at the time. We were terrified tear. They've imported at the fourteen anyway, oh, my go up. How do you top that? Well, I mean this thing. So now, we gotta get back to discussion the Blair witch twenty sixteen so what I'm gonna tell you right now. Tell me something commendable about this movie. Okay. I think I already blew my load. Pardon the pun on the first thing, I said, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I'm gonna say that. And this is obviously spoiler. I would hope our listeners heard it. But have watched the movie before broadened discussion here, but. The twist that involved the fakery on the part of the fixers to manufacture elements of the Burkitt's Bill legend was kind of neat. And I can't say whether that was in the first one because I can't remember. But I think that's an interesting idea may reminded me of of the Canadian deliverance rituals rituals where you have a bunch of mock guess constructed items that are left in that are left to threaten camp Gore's. So in that case, it was just some there was a deer carcass strung much more foreboding than this which would be a bunch of sticks tied together to create the symbol the famous code him. Yeah. Yeah. Which is become conic, which I thought that was kind of neat because these cynical bastards are trying to. There twang with the emotions of their air swell friends here that they're leading into the woods. And I thought they could have done a little bit more with that. And I thought that's really interesting. So they had a fight which again, that's par for the course when you have inter- interna seen bickering amongst friends. So it's like the one guy chases the other guy and threatens to beat the shit out of them. He disappears into the woods, and they could have done a little more with that. And that's all the like, an I'm putting this very very accentuate air polls all spooky shit started happening because then they break off and the two locals, you know, when they run into the other people like we've lost in the woods for five days. And the what you believe. Yeah. It's only been a day all this temporal shifts. And so on and everything is like, so, you know, their minds are being played with. And then of course, they find other Tolan's in their Israel veracity to it. And there was a bit of a twist to the told him. What was so nothing. Yeah. It was so pedestrian. Basically up. Spoiler told him sort of athlete voodoo dolls, whatever. Yeah. Very workman-like of its. But like I said before again, the beats were the same and even the ending was pretty much. What almost offer shot the same as regional and but without the effectiveness without the spooky nece. Yeah. And I'm thinking, I mean, we could probably I mean the expression name them on one hand. Obviously literally could with the number of found footage movies that are fairly recent that have resonated with us certainly the ones that don't I'm thinking that. I think is a wreck remake with the Dexter the woman from Dexter and Corentin it was just a business but refuse records, it was fun. But at least at quarantine used footage that was E N, G electric news gathering. It was journalist footage at least. They embedded. Okay. Yeah. Embedded journalism at least they embedded their found footage in proper conceit. They didn't just sort of throw it around willy nilly. I quite liked to two thousand eight movie called the head cases, which was been talking about for that was that was. The each and it was something about the Delaware valley. My memory escapes me, but it actually Inc really legitimate found footage which included audiotapes of I think confessions from would meet up serial killers. And I thought that was much better handled. It gave it a very forty eight hours mystery kind of vibe to it. But at least again, they were recreating all technology, a very meaningful powerful way using that old technology. So the use tapes, but it service the story in a good way. It wasn't just. Pass the gravel cameras swinging to and fro I got a job here. We have our window open. Look. Construction and sirens going on here where it's far away from the forest as you could possibly get. We are close to the tower in near downtown Toronto. So it's a little rough. But yeah, you have to know. Geez. You know, when to use it and know when not to and in in small doses, it can be extremely effective. Yeah. I mean paranormal activity the first one somewhat under. No there you're going because endings true, but they're ghost hunters who are trying to capture something. Well, they sleep. So when you see this fluttering image. Yeah. It adds an extra bit of. But to me all the paranormal activity movies are in this is from the first God knows how many they made the ninth. They made so many sequels with the movie was watching like a static shot like people sleepy whatever. And seeing this little flutter the corner screen all you notice that that's that. Those are the frights tears. See that move. Did you see that move not much time? You saw it was very impactful reinventing the wheel to two endings came out to cinemas. So depending upon which ending you saw one was much more impactful than the other. I don't wanna get at the ending of parallel kitty, and so on, but this was an Blom houses when crazy with you know, all these other found Floyd stopping it went on and on and on and kept saying when going gonna end when's it going to end while as was watching for the first time Blair with twenty six I realize thank God, it's ended. When was the last major found footage Horford came out in the cinema. I camera recall at this moment, I want to also say cr-. Creep was incredible. But it wasn't the main thrust of that production. It was just a neat. Little add on that got you into the is and into the face of the antagonists in a really kind of cool subtle way. So it wasn't the entire film was built around it. Frankly, my favorite found footage. I mean, besides affirmation Campbell holocaust, which I like with reservations because I'm sure it's very hard for a stomach mostly with our four legged friends. Yeah. Sure phone footage is the found footage film festival. These guys that basically scour thrift stores these dudes for Michigan Evan associated magazine, and they print stuff of like letters and angry missives to parking attendants and all sorts of stuff. Stuff like crazy infomercials on or crazy public access stuff. They're the ones that discovered the winnebago man who had the became cultural phenomenon. There's a great documentary was made about him wonderful documentary, actually, and they never feel to me Lau for the stuff that they on earth. So when it comes to horror. Yeah. I just never really got on the with found footage because maybe because the first Blair witch. I was so again, the hyperspeed itself so much that was so wanted to be scared. I'm I wanted to not even be able to eat my popcorn for fear that I was just like going to blow chunks out of. But then I sort of Selden and. Okay. So yeah. But it's interesting. 'cause I mean, it wasn't until this was your suggestions blaming this horrible experience just pass of wasting our half. My we I think the ledger sheet is pretty even when term in terms of like on whom the blame can be laid because we suggested things to one another that really been kind of kind of early appalling we've heard on so. Yeah, it was good. But yeah, I mean, I think that's the most that I I think Greece segue to what did I learn? And I guess there are two things that I learned the first thing the most striking thing I learned it was not really what I learned. But what I realize holy shit. The Blair witch project was the first form of on the cinema. That was pretty much. My biggest takeaway the second. Takeaway is you can have amazing marketing you pull it off to a T. Stealth screenings over titles. What have you? But that may get some asses in the seats for the opening weekend. But you gotta deliver the goods over the good word of mouth spreads like fucking forest. Fires term too. So all of the jets as to this one in it sunk like a stone second, we found this movie, pretty bad. And this is a great segue into what we've learned. So I learned that I've never seen POV pissing in a movie. So when the one guy relieves himself against a tree sure enough, you get you don't see the, Sean which might have been interesting. All you see is this. Video footage shows back to pornography and the. It's this guy staring at a tree. And then, you know, soaking it with his, you know, God with with urine soaking it. And I mean, I'm thinking is this this is what I this is my takeaway this rubbish movie. That's okay. I'm always looking for I and I can't to my recollection think of another drone movie that I'd seen because drones like, they're so ubiquitous that they've polluted every kind of venture to the point where everything is being promoted with the stupid supermarket products are being promoted with an unthinking fine. If it's video game that makes sense, but I don't need like some handiwork being promoted with not fucking inter everything. Becoming smart now is everything is everything is the internet of things everything God damn drones. And a hallmark of a good movie is when the technology is in the review mirror made obsolescent as Marshall mcluhan would say, let's say video drums. Exactly just tape. It doesn't matter. The tapes are no longer in existence because that is a fabulous movie that touches on all these issues of mind body, and the interface between technology and the human well, it's already dated drone video dramas. Mclean esque movie and Marshall his most famous for saying, the medium is a message, but videos roam the medium is relevant that doesn't matter themes surrounded. It could have been anything VHS disk, it could have been flash rive could the cloud for all, you know, for sure what it worked because there was idea those concepts. There was characters there was fright. There was everything going for it. And I could not have cared less when they elevated the drone into the sky to try and get a gain a better vantage point and saw woods for miles and miles and miles of narrow road to be found like. So what it might have been even more interesting had they found the road. And then they tried to follow it. But they just wasted that it just became almost the the excuse to dismiss the cell phone signal in that. I mean, my God most likely to die that godawful movie. It's like I can't find a cell signal here. Like, whatever it's been done to death. Where you explain that a way that could have done something first time I've seen a drone do something cool with drone fucking kill someone with a drone for care. What can you do? I mean, there's a wasted opportunity. Like, the whole movie was essentially a wasted opportunity calling character names in darkness associated with horse since the mid seventies. Hammer to sleep this movie board me, I I will admit to you. I watering lead. Dull? So the first thing you've learned. Basically only take have is the Blair witch project was the first one on the theater that was recollection. I have no other take away from this movie other than it almost seems like they're purposely trying to make the worst possible film. They ever could. Yep. That's honestly, like I the end of it. I think I've done my notes, I don't know truck on the floor. But I wrote like were they actually trying to make the worst possible versa. Blair, I like and cycling back to the same spot. You've been lost at is a cliche of cliche. But it's like that is lame like off, you know. Oh my God. We're lost. Oh, this is just where we can't do two nights ago. I mean, come on. So I don't know they trying to peel to people who were not stopping for the rich. If that's the case, then they're disappoint them by just rehashing it where they tried to appeal to new fans by rehashing it and say, I'm not sure that's because people come to horrors through various channels. We've seen this with both Halloween and evil dead. Where I think the a lot of maybe millennials and generation q or whatever the fuck it's called comes after millennial would maybe have been this would have been their first entree into these classic film. So a lot of people will see the the first quote unquote, classic before they see the would remake of maniac you could list them, you know, a slew of them. So I'm not sure I mean, this is cheap Cashin because they already had a built in network that built in audience they could easily dismiss the secret. Well, as just okay this never happened, which is you can always create your own lore. When something never happened similar to Halloween sequels never happened. So we have a tie in. And we've attached a known commodity to it Mr. Wingaard guard, Mr Barrot fine. Here we go. Go nuts and the interceding movies. Never happen. We can have this big spectacle that we can launch. But again, if you don't bring the goods, then what is it mean? I don't know. I don't wanna see anymore this, frankly, unless you do something a little because to this day, the actual Blair witch has never been seen cinematic. There's there is. Creature in a lot of people are mistaking for the Blair witch. Apparently is one of the Blair witch is victims now when the blue which project came out. So here's something that I again, not learned. But recollection. At the time. I was collecting action figures there's I still kind of do. But I've spoken with is on previous podcast. Tom McFarlane was coming out with a line was called movie maniacs. And you've got to go to toys R us, and you could buy in the first wave blood splattered action figures of like free Jason, and of course, Mike Myers came, and you know, even Norman Bates goes face. What have you they the Brundle fly so many, and I believe it was the second or third wave? They were all set to release immortalizing six plastic with articulation Blair witch action figure the actual Blair wit and designers at McFarlane toys were going either by concept art or their on imaginations, whatever happened in never somebody day. It was pulled because they realize what the mystique should be kept. I did see what it looks like they retort magazine, and they showed what it looked like your standard. You know, decrepit old hag bath nece gown. Yeah. Blind nothing nearly as memorable as the good guy doll and fortunately and nothing is memorable as robber Eggers. The witch I got. I got the right there. I think so. Yeah. Which we both really found quite compelling and talk about a stroke of genius to set this in. Well. Mayflower USA. I mean, we both really enjoyed that movie as part of this horror renaissance that we're experiencing with amazing movies and last two or three years that has been released like nobody's business, and yeah. Well, I would say that the original Blair witch sort of capped the an end to the most dismal era. If you want to say, maybe the early two thousand four and maybe it was a good code to go off on a piece of shit movie. Like that to end the decade twenty years later released this piece of shit, and hopefully twenty years, hence, they will not revisit this for kind of forty year Halloween esque, Molly, all saying, right? Fool me once. Shame on me. No me once came anew for me twice. Shame on me will be fooled again, no to buy into this high. No any other Blair witch, unless something like super incredible happens. But I don't know. So I am going to give this movie the lowest star rating of given the history of this podcast. Uh-huh. I am giving it a big NADA Zilk interesting. Euro stars avoided all costs. It's not worth your time. There's nothing commendable about it. If you've seen the first layer rate, you've you've already seen this movie, and if something much more superior, even I don't think for the first was that great. So no SARS for me. This is a total don't waste your time. Get just skip it go on with your life. Oh my God. I used to say that, you know, just by being a movie something deserves at least once star. Just like, yes. Maybe angry. Yeah. I have to move that star because of my radio hall what I would think in that infamous atheist billboard that they ruled out across the city of Toronto. It's there's probably no God. So just go on with your life. I'm remember that reminder that says, okay, just go by your daily business don't bother with this one had a few minutes where came alive I would say ten of the running time of eighty where thought maybe they had something here. There's a kernel of a good movie if you dig deep enough that they had the makings of they could've explored more about the subterfuge in the fakery and. You know, the duplicitous nature of the one of the one do oh bus just was wasted. This that made me sort of because that's such a wasted opportunity. They could have done so much more. You feel so I'm going to get one criss cross set of sticks out of a possible. Five I'm doing that a lot lately here men when you see these lips and cracks and sideways cameras and someone falling into the woods. And then someone dropping Cam quarter into the water. Just like this serves no purpose. Just so there's no point you cannot execute a direct to'real tour vision when you're dealing with the amateur equipment and people chronically stuff whipping it around their head one hundred and eighty degrees. That's not the way a movie should be short. I hated and slasher films. When I when I, you know, basically walk time when they're just, you know, walk through the house going, oh, we're so. Zone. So as this padding padding, and then this is a walk time. It search time calling out the name red red Rovers like I dunno. It sounds like they're selling timeshares to like Florida condos because they each have an earpiece at in their communicating with one another through. I mean, the device obviously walkie talkies major things type thing and not interested in walkie talkies. I'm not interested in technology, and of its time technology, I'm interested in character investment and sense of place. And I'm interested in going beyond the brush stroke played that spurred the initial vision they could have done so much more with the conceit. They guess you have a connective original James his brother, although this is twenty years later. I mean, that's when this movie was supposed to come out because James looked to be about twenty at the most right? But I mean, the kind of explore some of the cyclops loss of losing his sister to the woods. Oh, my go-. They could have had someone to reach out. James with the photo of maybe lost Heather. And then saying I really wanted to connect with you because I'm not sure this is who had seems and then have this person murder James anything, you could've you could've done a Craigslist killer type thing, I just spitting out ideas. We'll initially here. But I mean, my God the not need to have people investigating the same lore going to the same woods with the same result. That's just reality of numbers by the book over and over and over again, relevant van sands shop by remake psycho took more risks tennis because there was certain parts where it wasn't quite shot by shot, and even though that's universally derided. I hated you probably to that theater. So that came up with that was on a couple days ago. I saw Beetlejuice and the stroke of genius Tim or that it's comedy horror with the stroke of genius to have ghost POV of. Wondering what to do in a bureaucratic posthumous world where the trying to get a number to have a government bureaucrat tell them what they should be doing in the afterlife. This kind of spurred think the good life with Ted Danson is that kind of same show on show. Excellent actor I thought men like the amount of vision and creativity that went into Beetlejuice the tip. Asus of which is here that movie is brimming with creativity ten of ten this is almost negative integer creativity. You're just treading down the same path. I mean getting to the forest here. These idiots didn't even know how to demarcation path when they're hiking. It's like they have no business being in the woods and probably deserve their fate. That's another story. I mean, just. As wrote and as paint by numbers as film can get. I don't wanna give it zero. Because there are some touches of terror. But my God, I'm just. The saffron of terror. Come on. Yeah. That's all. 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THE SUNDAY SERVICE - 31 - 01 - 2021

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THE SUNDAY SERVICE - 31 - 01 - 2021

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You're welcome enjoy your early spring. I'm out the freeze mazowsze. I'm going to bay but it's not even february so we still could have some more cold days we could. We could cause this weather's crazy mode and wants to changes dramatically. I've never lived in the place where it goes from like thirty degrees at night. And it's like seventy five in the morning. At least we're in from the northeast it stays call for like six months and it stays hot for another six months. And that's it man. This weather needs to be on some skitso. Once it hits june it's not skits anymore. It's just godly hot and doom october. Yeah oh no no is normal whether it's never on. Its mids him. Bob away with y'all know of somebody look tall by nobody bad. I'm really not you know how the show is up you. I'm sorry but you know. Let me just say things sometimes but ceremonies the not bipolar people. Then i know some people. Yes right yeah. Mail it out. They self medicaid or whatever but a lot of times they or their medication. I ain't got something to help them out. They ran a tornado. The either just talking to you all right. I'm taking everybody to vegas all on me. Get back later. You find out like yes. They use all their mortgage money and cleaned up just for that one weekend and now he's sitting around said. Yeah well they never the few. Bob hope bob very few bipolar people probably rent with. Just you catch them at the right on. Hey how you doing if you did. They probably also mid believe me. I haven't man. I'm speaking from experience. You know it is a useful thing. I only had one friend who's bipolar. Who really state on his meds and just stayed mellow almost all the time. I've known him but everybody else. I know it's one of where like sometime. We're the best friends in other times. They go through periods where they burned all relationships to the ground. He's start over again. Yeah man i'm not. I'm speaking from experience. Shit i got a little little touch of myself and my family does it. Yeah yeah excellent. Acting crazy some time on this show. I'm i'm actually. I consider to be like the most mellow in my family. I'm the one is like a because usually everybody's screaming at each other so they know roomies kind of mellow me out. Maybe tire watching everybody else anymore. You have to get something in you guys got to cover but you give me by myself sometimes city. See me lose my shit. Oh yeah i try to i. I'm not an immensely and i'm fine. I just probably have a little bit of a thing for some people. Say yeah fun. Are you off your i was i was. I was fine without take them. I can be me. I can be fully me. I'll know you when not somebody to aspire to be blunt had my moments i have. I'd like i said i've been able to. I don't have any. Because i've been able to take certain things and pour them into other areas alcohol medication hippie blang la along to admit i have problems. But i've never gone to therapy. But i'm not i've been able to like switch. My attention palma energy my mental whatever it is and the something but i'll tell you my family man and i. I want to say no names number. It runs the my. I talked to my cousin. London who lost shit on me a lot of times. I love that do but then am i got the. He lost his shit crazy. Yeah we went out. Went out. And i think you do yellow to polish girl. Didn't know oh. he's found. One poll what happened was so we took mid look. This is the thing you're right running hot and cold you know he's like really isn't gonna is even that way it's like come on. Let's concede let's let's see only show you the city. I wanna show you sit. You got here. Did you notice you got here late. And i have all. I have a whole lot of time. So you every day i was like. Would you don't know you're here. You're i'm gonna show you the city like us all right. We went around. I mean we went to took me randomly london bridge and a few other places man with the london i and he was showing me a good time and it was actually getting cool. You got to the point like you know what i'm here. I'm glad i say crazy things. I'm glad you may nobody come see me. I'm glad you're here all right now. We malone we went to this restaurant in this waitress. Came out to in cheats. We'll even get to the origins. She poured water and nasa. As far as we got before this crazy she started happening on no report the water and he. I saw him while talking looking at the glass. The whole time staring at it and i knew something was wrong. The gears running not talking to me right now. I don't know what's happening but you know. Maybe he's just very extra-thorough about what he drinks. I don't know what's going on but he wasn't talking to me. I just kept talking. But he wants to shit waitress comes back and he's like my glasses dirty. I want another one in. The girl was like okay. She looking at me. Like was rhonda glenn on glass. So she went and got him on the glass. We're talking little bit in the girl. Cain beck i know. There's a second glass of water. Saw she said. Make sure that should has cleaned to bill graham of any so the glass cane bag. Even i was looking at the shit like okay. Let me make sure nothing wrong. I was the suspect from across the table. All right awesome these spots thing and clear and he looked at again. He's like girl came back. Come here my last still dirty. A one. Another one and i was just going to say my cousin's name. I said it before. But i just say hey man the others name i said hey man. I said girls doing a best classes fine. He's like oh. Are you drinking out. Glass muscling but look man. Just don't just don't give the girl a hard time. She's doing the best. I can touch these young. She's nervous right now. 'cause you're making a feel weird so you're gonna come here. Put this polack chick you some i. It doesn't have to go here man. It doesn't go here man. I'm just telling you have a time. I wanna eat dinner. I don't want to be thing and real uncomfortable. This girl make you uncomfortable. Yes you do. Oh i'll make you. But we're not the it. And i was like jesus christ is like and at this point. He's pulling the crazy out of me. I want get nuts. And i'm trying to be cool the whole time i said man. We're here it doesn't have to go here. Drank the fuck. It is no no you wanna put some of your even know you stay with me. You want to defend her. You know these fucking forward is like you don't know them like fucking his way we. We're out in the middle middle of london. Man cheese writes. He's out the yelling. Is like you know what you do. Go to finish book and people you telling me don't like i just ate people looking at us like we move. We shouldn't let these black mother bucket his. I know probably a black couple of coming in resumes. Name sorry one of your kind as eli car like well. let's go. i'm not right. What you gotta grazie right now. I'm talking way. But i'll get my stuff again all day with you. Drove me insane. House the food. No idea job will get up and leave. I didn't even have any. Yeah we we left with this in the middle street with all you got up and left there destroy. Oh my god. we're fucking younger. Age of the ministry. I just got to london. I'm yelling at me about crazy shit. But after it's done you go like we ended up running back together. Of course yeah. I just like i just. I like maui. Here he was quiet and is quite. We got back like you. Non love you man. I just have people come see me you know and you just don't know these people may you'll know them. I said just. Just be people around just for me to swallow. He's done that. She said you don a couple times. His wife was there ex wife he got while he's got something going. I mean the then. She's cool but i remember he. Something happened got back late from somewhere and he said you know. I'd wonder you know the wife while you said you want to spend some time like well. Yeah b- been spending time. I was like you know man. I know where i was going. You know i had a people to see here. I mean it's not. You're not exactly close to the most central activity in london. He lives way fucking sale so we get back and i said man we can do this. I'm fine you don't you have to go out of my way. No we're hanging out to hang up hanging out up to. What do you want to go. Hang out when. You're mad at me when i when i got no fucking hanging out late. La plays closed. But we'll find some men with the passive jesus and we found a place and it was full was most uncomfortable thing and it got to a point west where he was about to fucking hit me because he says on the me and i said i don't know what i sit in the set them off i think until i just got up and said hey man i got one. We'll fucking two on talk to me like daddy looked really really just you. Just don't wanna do this. Yeah man but then he comes back and he's like. Hey you know me. I do know yes. I don't know which one of you to i'm talking. This is in this. This is this is the kind of thing that runs in my family. It really does. It really does man. I'm on yeah i And so i got. I understand what he's going through you really. I mean he's not as i know you can't help it. Yeah he can't help it man. Yeah people so i understand. I'm telling i'm telling you this because my making fun of bipolar people. I'm not man you know that shouldn't runs in my family. No no i you know. One of our friends who died last year was suffering from the same thing. I had that same frustration. When i would talk with him really I didn't know this person did. Oh i did wait a minute just die. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah i do. That's another unnoticed. come to the house talking about. I said it's dues name but this a friend of ours. I know what you're talking about. He cannot house and And he was talking just went off about this bad relationship that he was in in our member at one point he scared the fuck outta me and i have to pick his ass up and throw him out because we we went. We met him out somewhere. We went back to back to my house but right around the road. And i said well come on over man you know. We haven't talked in a while he was going on and all you know he gets the point. You listen you. Keep listening to you like minute. I to see something. Yeah i said. Hey man you know this this thing that's going on with you. You got this. You got this. Maybe you can just move on from ninety. See see everybody says that. What does everybody keeps saying that in my wife was like the fuck is going on. He was so cool to me and he was getting my nerves with all the talking but fuck what just happened. And then i did the whole thing like well you know i say hey man you know listen. It's getting late. And i didn't wanna make you stay the night here. My wife's united states. Jesus christ it sounds like you're gearing up for the like well. Why don't you go home and sleep. Sleep it off on the think on it. He had been drinking and nasa. Whether it was i i was. I said i told him. I say hey man you know at this. That's what i told he was going off in going on and on and on i was like that's why didn't say anything about race. I said. hey man are you sure you should be drinking because we drink right now. And he has a history of that yes where he nearly died from nearly died from and i said man. Maybe you shouldn't be drinking right now. You know everybody keeps telling me this. And i got it and there's nothing wrong with me and it's like the some road right now and cool thing about it was meeting. Get as mad at a thought. She was 'cause she saw two man me 'cause he lives far she does. She's like or did maybe he needs to maybe does need to stay here. But you know. I'm not gonna sleep tonight. I never felt feel full of him. What you went through that night where the kind of conversations he and i would have when i pick up the phone because i knew if i picked it up. It's going to be a couple of hours. So i was answering like every third call but yeah i mean. Alcohol was killing him. He shoulda died earlier And then he got a diagnosis being bipolar and they were putting him on meds in all he told me about like. Yeah should doesn't work. i just stopped taking. It was like. I feel like you shouldn't do that some. We'd we a lot of people. I got to talk about. We talked a job. I'm like just discovering potty alison davos smoke. Will he needed to smoke. I'm watching you to ask a question for you guys. I mean when you were growing up. Did anyone ever question whether you had a mental illness or you had like learning deficiency or something like that no i i used to learn deficiency. I really. i used to not be able to talk. I had a list. I actually for years. Even i was on spill last. I had to actually control my list. Really still yeah i still. It wasn't bad it is that you could hear me slip every now and then s.'s. Where my thing. You can hear me every night. And i'll slip in you. Know yachts the faith on. You know i'll slip but i took me years to get this funny i. I don't have unless when i'm in the recording booth doing voiceover for something and then suddenly my tongue gets thicker and i have problems pronouncing or like if it's a word that has the s t h suddenly like. It's out of nowhere. It's tough for me right now. This is being put on the spot for me. I only had that once in my life and like during like pre k kindergarten. I didn't give a shit. Like i just did not care about anything or school. Really start taking school series until like high school. That's what it is. I don't give a shit at many others like and apparently it got so bad in kindergarten. I remember this. Because they have those parent teacher meetings and things their students doing bad. Or whatever. And i remember i was in the room like playing with something while my parents talking to kindergarten teacher. And she. I don't want to alarm you but i think chris this is. This is late nineties. Okay so this is. This is the furniture they use. I mean alarm you. But i think chris is retarded word then political term that my parents like they. They didn't get mad. They were just like okay. Well who will see if that's true and then the teacher said what was the next one. I don't think your son is retarded. We think he might be deaf and so they actually took me. Because i just didn't listen to never did anything in the brought this shit on yourself as a little kid like this this ear doctor to see if i was death and like getting tested for hearing aids like not gonna be fine sir misdemeanors herman. I think your son is retarded. 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What is it some sort of energy field. Be careful. rambo. I taught you well. You've been gone for one. Apparently get snaps makes you stupid. Couple brain cells are still alive. They'll snapped away. And she's the one that was looking at the electric fence chair a drone in i kinda rambo tomorrow what's next marvel studios one division now streaming only on disney plus a lot of people get disney plus to see what one does up to and like. I said if you were if you don't know anything about marble but you tell your grandmother something mean that'd be great i baby i don't remember this show. Maybe i want this to be a great trick to put on your grandmother telling like this. Oh sitcom meghan the day. Oh remember this. I'll really all you remember this episode right here. Well i think in the last two your grandmother feeling. I don't remember there being black people on the us or any minority cleaning leaving. Yeah so if you pull the in your grandmother and you try to show them one division. Let me see. You're going to one over here real quick because as you know not that i need to really remind you people if you've been watching this but as you know one division started out sort of a as a tongue in cheek play on the american fifties and sixties and seventies sitcoms out there vision. We have five. This is our home now. I want us to fit. This is going to be your grandmother and grandpa those good old days at the tv you saw. This is careful. Rambo negroes will take attorney. Yup you you following that format is like a very special episode of one vision to even think is called episode. four is called. We interrupt this regular scheduled program. Nice yeah yeah. Because they're going to go back to that sitcom format by the way people yes. This is a spoiler sort of discussion. So if you haven't seen this yet then You to do but with this particular episode. They took step out of four to show you what the outside world is seeing with one. And what's going on with the situation that we see her in with this. We'll keep up one every week if something big is happening in something definitely did happen on this particular episode right here now right a right after it was done. Everybody's out there doing their spoiler discussions. They're doing their wrap ups. They're doing they're going in about what this means. And what this easter egg is and what it leads to it. So that's being done man you know. I don't want to repeat that. What i do want to go in and do is talk about this in a way where you know why. Why is this show important as some people say are. Is this overblown at this point. is a format still working switching. Gears right here a little too earlier as are are they revealing things as they should. Basically what would i really want to do is just talk about. Why are maybe why not marvel made the right decision to move into episodic programming and while one division might be the best thing for that starting off our while. This is an experiment but that might not be as good as we thought it was. But you know let's go ahead and talk about one particular thing that i thought that they did. That was excellent here because with this we see that they've This episode they brought back some familiar faces in also. Some familiar faces that we don't recognize because they were very different from the last time we saw them. And you know the tease new characters now and also possibly teasing properties yet to come and with all of that going on. I think what a what. I'll start with the same whether you agree. And not that this is a wise move to do this format and to go into an episodic format. Maybe they do it. The way you wanted to. But they had to marvel's getting way too big for movies. West marvel at this point man. They got a lot of material and as far as waiting for the movies. It's a long roll for each one. It really is man. And i'm gonna tell yo- one division. I think whether you like it or not one division is the first thing to prove that yeah man as big as movies are in the budgets might be for them in the special effects and whatnot. The storytelling is way too big now for movies And it's easier to tell an intricate story on television. Yes we would movies. It's like okay. I gotta take all this and boil it down to it's essential elements and squeeze it in two two to two and a half hours. Yeah but still maintain a humanity to it so you like the characters and you feel like you know them. As opposed to just plop plop plop plop gas pipeline television. Take your time if you really want to look. They really have created a big as universe. I think they'd be star. Wars at this point. But i i would. I would agree lane three. You talk radio. Can i was saying he got the universe gain better than even star wars because they have so much going on in l. Cross pass some of these things at some point but at other points just really are doing a lot of intricate storytelling man. And you can't have if you really truly want to have. As many story arcs for as many things that are happening in his big as world and universe that they've created. You can't stay in the confines of movies man. Which admittedly i as much as i love. Marvel and what they've done. I will give mark marble credit for this. They said even. We know that this should become formulaic. Is the sodas gone flat now. We got to do something different. You can't keep relying on cliffhangers. Might take years to resolve. Know you can't keep relying on those things a to follow up on two years later. You know there are a lot of things you just can't keep relying on one or two characters to carry all this through until we do the whole formula. Let's get together and beat this. Big mother bug over here. You know you can't you can't do that. Man the reason. Why is because what. I say that there's so much going on. There's a lot of stuff that they had to address in the movies and not they're not gonna have time to get day they won't in one of one. Division has allowed us to not only take more risk. Get crazy with this format but now we see in that is impacting a largest story. This was shown in this opening episode. Here where they showed in chris. You and i talked about this a lot. We talked about how man you look. This is cool that the vendors here and they saved the day they say the galaxy you know. They brought everybody back from the snap but that's nap man. We were saying you know that shit. Ain't that easy. you know. This is not how it is. They played it up for laughs briefly when we had spiderman far from home which was funny over five years ago half of all life in the universe including our own midtown high was wiped from existence but then eight months ago. A band of brave. Heroes brought us back. You live a buck on the head. You know the to play plays a funding. Not we all good. Everything's back to normal. I mean because the event what happened is way too heavy to really deal with they. I mean within game. They do because they only five years later the support groups depressing guests but in a fun spiderman movies. You really go into that. And it's like once he gets the job sheila. I'm this i want to hear that. It made sense for the context of the movie itself but to be the event as a whole. Look when you think about it like even just it was not just earth it was the universe itself versus life was eliminated in just for four billion people. Vange and now they're back. It's going to cause some chaos is insane people know the snap. The blip whatever it's gonna fuck people up people go have because you know the benches. They still giving people therapy. I won't that must command. It'd be like i lost my wife. 'cause you almost super billions to be created from this. I want to. i want somebody though. I want somebody to come back. Did they just got back from the snap in. Traffic is a truck coming. You know i'll go ahead to happen all over and people who are flying in mid air and they were gone and they look. They don't go that deep with it but what they did with wonder with the opening scene is that they did say hey. Look we'll talk about this later but we know we know that the vendors caught on all right fuck does some things to. There's a lot of people who would not be able to mentally cope with this in the opening scene which was just a few minutes long. The actually were able to introduce that. And the way that i thought was one of the best deductions. They've done for marble property especially for this big that they set up was like a cocoa butter to the snap. Right talk so dr cease to exist. Don't if you think about it. And i know they didn't plan it could even be almost analogous to was going with corona. You see the way. They're talking about capacity. Don't ask with this four. We don't know why these while these people come back but what they did show was finally they showed the The chaos what is supposed to be a heroic event. You know that touching on this right now. In a way i said may yok to address as an issue that they will some kind of way. Sure 'cause we we've seen our heroes comeback but what does this mean you know on the street for day to day. Yeah yeah you know what what. I think that was so good is that and so. Look if you if you if you've seen the shore ready which you have that's why you are watching his spoiler discussion right now. What i want them to talk about was also just again. The mental toll that it takes the mental and emotional toll. It takes on people because people are gonna be gone and they're going to be missing events they're going to be some people die while they're gone and this spouses remarry yet. Mrs monica tr- Monica rambo whose mother from captain marvel wars the name captain. Rambo kept going with what they mentioned. It i've maria rambling. That's it maria ramble. We'll talk about that a little bit later. But you see that there's a very emotional state that was that was very high for some people who were gone for those five years was. Where did you live in a room. So she came back from the surgery. I might have fallen asleep but no longer than twenty minutes. Where's your mom. she died. Honey thank you. Fucking reaction was pervy when she went. What what yes. Yes no no no. No you're mistaken. My mother did. The procedure went. Well you set yourself clean. Margins you're discharging. Today cancer came back stopped. Knows you know that's a mid like it took me a while. The so kiat chaotic and done so well that even i didn't know what was happening at first. It took me a few seconds to realize. Oh shit people are coming back from the snap. Yeah the blip. It's literally like you said is probably one of the best. Cold opens to any marvel thing that i've seen television was well what they're doing with this show writing. This is why. I think this is pretty amazing with what they're doing. This show has done so many things and they've taken so many risks but they've with all that being said and done they've done exactly what they said they're going to do with this particular. Show right here and these are stent. These are launch shows. You know they say everything's connected they they're using this to To play around with a format to take risk and do fun things but they're also doing this to go in and use opportunity of heaven an area that is a little more free with storytelling to address some of the biggest things out there. It connects back to the movies. In a way that makes you didn't like asia all trump. Now i got to watch it but it it really doing this series the what. They're the way they're stretching from of shield and a netflix shows nine by the budget and the look but just the storytelling itself. Yeah i was saying is episode. Did them more like a tv. Show that some of the others but not in a bad way. I mean just barely on looking blow shit up and have lasers the whole thing either. This is another thing pull back on the special effects man and let's get some more storytelling but for everybody who watched the first three episodes going so just a sitcom the whole time. Okay here you go. Yeah yeah we. And that's why i've been telling. just wait. just wait hand. I've heard a lot of complaints online. I don't see what you guys see in. This is just like just you know it's all i may look. I know how it is. Always listen some people you gotta respect the some people just generally don't lie then that's fine. I get it. I don't have a problem with that is for the people who just want to be. You always got that one fuck. Y'all i hate people aware if everybody was hated. They'd be marinate that bad. Y'all just do stupid understanding. Really fuck off man. You know they don't talk to some people who say look i just. This is not for me. That's fine that is. I really have a lot of respect for what the door i really do. This all just for me is working. Man is me. And i'll tell you With them the good faith in that yes we have not forgotten about these things that you have questions about and we're not afraid to go there now. We don't know how far they'll go. But we definitely did say that with this blip you gotta start creating some really complicated issues. You gotta start creating conflict. You gotta start grading villains from this well ever since far from home. I knew it's like okay. They're going to treat this very well because we had a villain stereo who capitalize and everyone's tragedy to make himself look. It was a scam. It's like if he did. You have that one guy doing it. You're gonna have all these other characters who will be inspired and all sorts of various ways Yeah so i'm excited about it. Yes same here man. I'm very excited about this too. You know i of also like how again going into. This is what i'm talking about. If you had these movies these movies would introduce characters that would serve that. There were several one purpose and then they were gone. Because we ain't got time to put them back in insurer. They take some characters that i did not like that to go today. One of those people was. I'm not gonna say hated the much like this. You just here to just say smart quotes uses. just be snarky jokey relief. that's all you serve darcy. Lewis man darcy lewis. thor added. I'm not gonna say. I hate it but you know i said man you you you just here for laugh at two and that's all by and by the way i don't even think they're fucking funny realm assist mexico death. Raton me for with so puny okay. That was fun. I had a love hate with her. Because i thought i thought she was so funny. I was like man. I want more her in the second one. I was like get her out of here. I can't stand her not funny and just won't shut up. Yeah it was even when they did a joke. I just didn't like the delivery with her breaking me out dane. I have nothing against her. I just it was useless carrot again. They the writing did her no favors direction. But they brought a back man. And i have to say like hey look respect for you to what it is almost like the character darcy. Lewis man darcy. Lewis was an intern. The funny intern sometimes annoying and it was almost like the movie. Even said hey. Intern was always talking shit. She's kind of done well for celebrated she. She's actually graduated school. Got a doctorate man. She's she's a full-time business now but she stopped talking shit. Nope what's your field. We're not supposed to talk to each other. Well it's got leader and you leave the biology artificial intelligence astrophysics full clown. Car means whatever the threat is clearly has no idea what they're dealing with a chemical engineer. Tom leykis you had. It says she still smartest at least he got a job at the top of our field. She was a lot more mellow in this and they actually had like a running gag with her. That's kind of fun. i have no okay. No longer went on the more all right. I'm warming up to this point radios. Like get you fucking kid. I like in this man alive because the they gave her something to do and they make her competent. Yes he's back. She comes out and this was talking about the whole heavy feminism. I just need to sell them little bits here when she comes in. And he say miss lewis. He's like dr lewis to you. She wants to do about it anytime. Because that's shitty. Dr lewis. All right dr lewis. Well okay. strange been disrespected her. Because she's a woman enough building taking seriously because you know she. Yeah she finds fucking allow. You know just met. You can try it okay. I'll just makes me dr moose and professor asks to you sir. I for me. She didn't bother me. I like that. They gave us something to do. It'd be. I liked the show a little bit but i think the writing is better for her. You know she has and this important. You give somebody a very important role for the story. I mean she's obviously discovering things and find out things that linda self to the story on the other people are not able to do Let's see here. You know i You know in talking about some of the characters that they brought back besides darcy. Somebody i did like was with jimmy. Woo that man. You know. Because i think when you bring back certain characters and you know how to do it right. So does you can reward the viewers who've been long lasting lasting long with these movies. You don't have this was great about it. You don't have to show people have to know what's going on to show them what's happening. You know they could be joking aside. That would be like. That's plenty on his own but anybody who's kept up with these movies. They remember Jimmy woo is a detective. Or what's his name but he works for shield right See i forget well because they mentioned quantico which would make him say but in comics. He worked for shields. Fbi your here. He's fbi fbi agent. Jimmy woo man. You know little things that they did with him and a lot of people already notices so there's nothing that you haven't seen. I'm not trying to introduce new. But i saw it. I was like oh. Should i mean when he when he did that. That's a nice follow up touch right there. Jamesy woo. Fbi practice homemade. Get it this time do this. And you know what that is. Cool because that's from That's a joke from ant man. If anybody remembers when he was trying to trying to get he was trying. And and i'm so glad for him so he tried. He's working his ass off to get that car trick. Can you not love. He wanted tricks the hard he was about to show jokes. He was just took them five. Years took me obsessed funny about that. Is that this character. This is why. I'm glad they followed up with it because that character was obsessed with that joke for years to do. What the car trick tony. Electric go our headstart. He was yeah. He was obsessed with that trip for years. Man you know. It's sure is an easter egg. But it's an easter egg. The bills character. You know and like i said it rewards people sure know about it. It doesn't matter. No but i think these shows will allow you to do more of that because again. Sometimes they'll take years for movies to come in and by the way they probably wouldn't even bit if they were just doing movies. This character was still be relegated to a small role. cameos me. I'm glad that they hope to see this future. Shows they can take smaller characters in bring them back and build them up even characters at are built up bring them back can do more with them. z. what is a baron. Zemo zemo zemo. They bring him back and giving him a really falcon and the snowman talking off. Got who zemo. Yeah they bring him back he's gonna be. He's actually going to be more the care in the comics purple mask and the snow leopard. Herman trimmer across. We'll see yeah man. They won division for being the first show out. The gate is bringing encompassing and doing right. I hope that these other shows will follow but right now the doing executive marble promised to do with these shows. And not just you know. And i just doing this for fun doing this. Because they have a lot of story to tell Anyone come in then. I forgot the actress. Name you guys in the check until me. I know you will address the actress that plays monica rambo What is girl's name out. And i like. I've seen in quite a few things. She's actually really good. I'm glad to see on. Come up right now to yana. Tiana paris did anybody when you saw her. First anybody make connection. I took a guest that she might actually be like The little girl from from a captain marvel Only because it was written about everywhere. I really everyone was talking about it every time i do watch. Everyone says. that's that person's daughter. I'm like i did not see it coming. Because they never mentioned her name so they don't care true true. Yeah plus they pull one of them. don cheadle terrence howard things and made the dark hair to the play her in some light on it but she's a little lighter skinned Younger so i had no clue that that was the same and i didn't even made connection and even think about you know which Which is what they meant. So i'm glad to see anything. Yeah lucky yeah. 'cause compl completely caught me off guard. I feel like they did mention her name. And captain marvel. 'cause i remember watching that and and her friend maria rambo and it showed the daughter we mentioned in captain marvel but in one division they know oh right right right right but just knowing that there was a monica rambo around. I was like all right. You look at the how much time has passed and a chance to throw in a captain. Marvel she was too important of a character already in those first not first episode but she comes in a second episode for her to not be somebody. Yeah that's a tragic story. But her mom though she died of cancer dot of cancer and was in with her daughter by the bid. She's up here. That's a people s another man. You know it's the. I'm glad that they are. That's one of the first moments where there really are touching on the tragedy of the blip on the snap. This one may think about. This is fun. Loving character from captain. Marvel died suffering of cancer on a bid and was already depressed about her daughter. Gone deep depressed. Shit right there man. I don't know if they'll ever come back. I want if we'll get any And i would love to see that. Now that the introducing these stories. I would love it. They didn't shy away now that they have the time when shy away from depressed and stuff like that. I hope they don't. I hope that that is featured. Even captain marvel two You know we're now that you know the you have carol. She hasn't aged at all because of her powers. She sees her best friend old. Weathering dying away. Have all this all this popular superman like all this power. But i can't save my best friend. Yeah that'd be great for her personally. 'cause that's what she needs. Yeah nasa gray. We're putting that man and we'll be listen. He captain marvel two they have. They don't have to ship but it would be great that they put that in there. Yes sir yeah. I think that's a great way of again. Look how shows can possibly introduce elements that connect to the movies. Because you wouldn't have time to do it any other way attractively fixing things because even back on the you know the darcy and the the randall park having brought in and giving them like more to do and make it more interesting. I wasn't even a big fan of him and because he was just he was just that gac darcy. Exactly you actually have them doing things and i like their reports each other. They feel like people. It's like the first time. I actually liked him so i like that marvel. They naturally make changes over time. If something didn't work the first time we'll source. I'm like that. They've always been consistent. It's great yeah. It's always been that way. It's like if a movie when movies comes out and you like don't like that so much. They aren't sitting there going. Like wow why you said that. We thought it was great. They're like yeah. We listen we get it. See what we did wrong. This goes to show how this is. Why people can't really do what they're doing with marble this years of work that have got that has gotten so intricate that they've had to make. Tv show is now so anybody trying to jump off the ground trying to make a universe you better have you sit together because this is a whole year man. Okay you guys can deal with the fact stand. You have to hate on dc. All the time i left it alone with somebody got on online trolled us talking about double toasted double dick. That was it was a dude. Who was the dc. Trolls just dependent anything. I mean i laughed. I'm not mad. The funniest thing is i. Yeah double tillerson double diagnosis. You guys you don't know what the fuck you're talking about okay Here i will give you. The double diagnosis loved them. I'm still impressed. How the handling with these now just getting everything that we talked about how you know how this is affecting the biggest storytelling. Let's talk about the storytelling that doing in this show self contained show alone. They're handling so many different. Tones does weird as four. Meant that they're doing. And i am still heavily impressed at the way they're jumping back and forth and continuing to show you things that you couldn't that you wouldn't think would go together with the way that they're doing it. You know. this show has always had some sinister undertones certain points but you know because they still still able to pull off even with the sinister undertone still able to pull off as we said they would dedicate sitcom format. And so you still able to get like a lighthearted laugh and entertainment with a win. It was done. That should spooky real quick. Stay scared to show. The man goes just a couple of weeks ago. There vision was drunk and dressed like a magician and doing magic tricks. S was just a couple weeks ago. We were doing that and now doing this. Nothing just don't look in the mirror. Zombie vision man. You know that's that is probably one of the creepiest things. If they've done so far that they pretty much brought a little har- to this. I thought was even crappier is when wanda turns on on minute. Man this shit right here though this the those dead is obviously he's obviously he's a corpse of some sort. I mean i know he's a synthetic human being or whatever but he's you know these by the way we relate. He's dead because she's brought his ass back to life along the way even she Casillas the one that did it even looked over and she was disliked. This forgot about that one. I'll fix rewind rewind about the throw of look man. that's where you start getting into. Some theories and easter eggs is going from and they've done this on purpose. They i think that not only did not only do kevin. You'd think like all right. You know what. I'm doing the sitcom format just because like you said i love nick. At night i love. Sitcoms always look for a way to bring sitcoms into the marvel cinematic universe if i can. It has to be authentic. Don't ask to be right. I think that okay. He did that because yeah he loves sitcoms but also you say you know what let me go ahead and just throw these people off so that you know when is fun for them or even when people think that they The That they're getting to the usual marble stuff you know we can. They'll be thrown off the fun sitcom tone and then we use they see some shit like that and then we start getting darker with things that's really going to throw people on. That's gonna throw people for a hell of a loop because some theories say now. The with the introduction of zombie vision dead vision. That's leading to some really darker elements that possible with what's going on with one I don't know if you heard any of these at all Like this saying that. All those people that want to has as co stars in the In the sitcom that apparently she's created in her mind now may reality. There's something going on within that. Just sales real creepy by todd davis whole process. You walking computer. Avi handed in nor turtled harold papa. John's got isabel. Matsushita cast as beverley. Negron is fake ass terrible week. Doing his driver's license fairly. This was in the tyler period directed episode that sitcom this thing that these people since they brought back they say these people might actually be dead. Oh really don't know if that's true or not people looking at things like there's a cemetery nearby you know of vision is dead. Are some of these people dead. That brought back. We don't know if that's the case or not. But i mean just for the mere fact that the leading some people to think that this kind of a very eerie And it's something that could very much possibility. And even if they're not dead knowing that they're real people being kept prisoner. I assume they were real people since they cause them being dead sea mike the kind of thing they would mitch and they're throwing up driver's license that and look knew what i'm thinking that what they're doing is a very loose adaptation of house of them which those might be with that. We have wanda who is. Losing overpowers is literally going insane. Integrates a whole new reality basically and this one is kind of another version of that. Except it's it's a whole town and whoever goes over his resume town over goes in there. You're sucked up into her little of reality that she's created for herself microcosm and i know people talking about the house of m house of m is is a comic. It was two comics. It was a vision where you had a family and moving into a middle class neighborhood. And everybody's kind of freaked out behind it become combining both elements yet to have house of 'em that the talking about what she creates a reality but everybody has a twilight zone bill to if you go if you think about that and twilight zone episode from years ago and the original twilight zone. Where was a kid. Got the name the episode but he held a town hostage because he had the ultimate power and everybody was scared of those mava minya. He was like a little trump and his they will they. Everybody was weeded out. And this is what this is the. This is the episode a marble twilight zone episode where one does kind of keeping these people prisoner in her in in whatever reality that she's made which is scary on his own because wonder one to start scare me man. Yeah wants to scare. They had handles mums where. Everything's been cool. You know we've been having fun with some laughs and then she'll just like what the fuck that you say you like your cousin. I'm just your neighbor. And how did you know. God ultra stranger and then outside. You're trespassing shit. I don't think that that was probably your biggest paralyzed off man. Dad comes out of nowhere. Well you notice when they put faces on the board. Kathryn hahn was not one of them. Agnes yes they as agnes. They're talking about agnes. Could possibly be. Agnes and i just had a picture agnes could possibly be one of the villains. That's that might pop up There's a witch care to another talking about agatha harkness. Yeah she's not a villain though. Is she not a machine as a witch right. She's a witch but she's always the babysitter fantastic four. So you know. There's even a scene where they slow. Show her with a a witch costume. and so. I wouldn't be surprised because much like in the comics in this in the movies one powers keep evolving. Yeah they keep changing the fact that maybe she went to someone who because we know that. Apparently it's gonna take the doctor strange at some point. Yeah this is going to be right into Into the multiple managers make sense because she's playing with realities and he's like okay now for this. I would not be surprised if he comes in. At the last moment you're gonna to destroy everything and he has a stopper cut this shit up but you have this other character actors. Who is this which may be attempted to help her with revolving powers and wanted went off. And he's trapped in there and the heart does play a part in the whole thing where we're wanda imagine. She conjured these two twin babies. And yeah it was. The hawks had coming like yeah. Those babies aren't really so yeah. Yeah yeah that's what. They're saying she's going to be this character. Agatha possibly because he's not up there and she's the one that's always coming in and She seems to be more aware than anybody else's happening. You know that's where you start getting into theories with this. There's been a lot of theories going around. I don't wanna get into every one of them because you know there's a lot there's been a lot of videos done on those. I just want to bring up some theories that i thought were more interesting. You guys have some than please bring them up because that was a good one right there. Especially if the doctor strange coming at the end. Because i blew justly right into the mood. Yeah but and i think that's what they're going to do. I do think if you wanna talk about doctor strange Just jump into. What is what might be in store for doctor. Strange in addition to having to come in and having to deal with wanda on maximov scarlet which they say that. There's a possibility that that might lead to a bigger villain and have you heard about this. There's lights they said man. This show is so creepy down race satanic. Sometimes they mentioned that if you look at certain things and some people might be digging deep but there's symbolism all around the show and some of tannock where they're talking about well. This is going to lead to a bigger bill and you can see this one of the commercials that they that they've had read into it as deep as you like. But some people saying i mean something. Is your husband tired of you. Burning his jost trier improved. Toast made two thousand. It's the go-to clever housewives. Say this machine has some shine. You said it depends. This was throwing people off a little bit for a while because the big easter egg here is that is from stark. Industries toasted was made by. Tony talks dad right in but at the beginning some people are saying you look at that toaster right there and not only look at the toasted but this way you get crazy now if you look at that toaster in maybe get up. Stand on your head articulate up and turn around those symbols down there. You look around six fox. I know that you're going to say now. If you look closely on the piece of toast you can see officials form on. Go back to so something else. Well no he's gonna be some smart ass wit. What a what is now. Now if you look in the background those ornaments on the wall. I'm was like a penis jim. It is the thing about the six six six. Okay you jumping looking like the way nobody saw but you y see it now dictator to see it. Now that's crazy but looking back now. I mean you know listen. There's other things in here that i'm not saying that this is right or wrong. But they've been putting these themes in here throughout so it could be the reason. Why is because i mean before i blow somebody alpha. Say fuck you idiot. what are you looking at. I like i don. I mean because they have been laying things in there for a while where these things actually lead to something saying. This does probably going to Is going to make an appearance in here. And they've been And they've been mentioning that mma fiscal might be somebody that they'll be dealing with when they talk about doctor strange. Yeah sure and. I wouldn't be surprised if it tyson the low-key because we see in the trailer that i'm like an stained glass window mephisto And so this might all be tied together because at also different realities and timelines and yet not been ma- maybe is going to be like the villain for this reality. Warping arc of marvel ways to go. Yeah they've been having a lot of theories and i mean it's crazy may sound. They've done this before and they've led to something. Sometimes they lead sometimes. They haven't the seeing that some people now some of the characters you haven't seen before you know where they happen to not you know it's funny thing about like Ralph the wife of a agnes that she keeps mentioning. They're saying this person might be because you never see the person sure that might be mephisto blonde neighbor but they but you never see ralph. Ralph has never made appear gays. Yeah that's great sitcom trump's from from way back. Yeah yeah but you know. I say he's doing cheers all the time. Yeah in this this that this is going to really drive you crazy on strapping know. Maybe if another addictiveness the talking about how they introduced a they've introduce sword in here now they take two different names. Sword in the comics that stands for sentient world observation and response development here in the show was sentient weapon observation and response department and the last time we saw them. They've kind of introduce when we saw the The stinger at the in the far from home we thought. Samuel jackson was chilling out at green screen right there and then we realized. Oh he's on a ship and ship When you see the end of the stinger right here they pull out. They show you that. Oh shit all right. A lot of people say this is probably no guarantees but a lot of people say this is sword and sure enough it was introduced in the show and so at this point. A lot of people looking at certain things are this again. Might be a stretch again fun to think about this. If you look at the outfits that soared has in the show very heavy on the blue the white and the black and they also mentioned that they have an astronaut program and people speculate and then like i met know if there's going to happen but could be fun this is a lead up to the fantastic four magically loss astronauts in this episode loss astronauts. And they're like. Oh okay that's exactly. Yeah they fucked up lots of astronauts and his leg. Well you got the blue you got the you got the red. Wow and so a lot of people say hey man you know again. It's a thing about. Maybe that won't be the points going. But that is such a coincidence. That they've lost astronauts man. They got the got the same kind of color tone. It has changed the foreign. You got it pretty much and is to think about but if it's true it just goes to show you how much thought they put into these shows before the show even started yet. They're like man you know what that's how much storyteller we have. We have to actually take time on shows not to to get all the stuff ramped up. 'cause we can't wait years to be introducing these fools through. By the way. I put a pit up a john krinsky and his wife was emily. Black let me ask what everybody wants. Then he will marvel meeting. Yep tomorrow recently. It was fantastic. That's just that that hasn't been cast at just art. That people did. But i thought at waiting so long and all this talk when they pick anybody else people are going to be doing. I mean income hard if on the other actor who they presents mandates you right. They have painted themselves in the corner. Now if y'all ain't going to do what you should have said some alone time ago. You should've said well he's too busy and then if it happened surprise people right. You'll silences suspicions this is. You promised us we never said. Oh come on the fan art very good fan art. Let's put it up there. Because i want this just like everybody else terry crews back then. Zeca run on fire by city cast pete davidson. Boy they will. They'll sectors off would-be a guy. Still just not taking seriously. You could have done this over. Twenty five Yeah people there's even some other things in near like like they're talking about how again this is some crazy shit but the talking about hexagons a plan a big part of this hexagon got imagery just keeps popping up all over the place They even put it on a whiteboard. Yeah i saw that back there when jimmy woo is is on a whiteboard. He's writing down theories and stuff he's saying what we don't know why hexagonal shape Apparently there's the hexagon they see in this image that keeps popping up around the neighborhood and they're also talking about like maybe that's another fiscal image. Are there's another corrupt company out. There called organization called aim might be responsible for why this whole thing is that they might be. They might be responsible for the wants. Messing with one does mind well. It's interesting because when that one guy in the suit goes through. He's in a bee outfit to protect them from all these bs like around it. Hexagon yeah yes me. Mo doc jarred swollen head is its advanced idea mechanics. And they're they're kind of like hydra they're all about science and led by modi took already introduced the iron man three wasn't that guy pearce. Maybe because i remember i do i do feel like they. They got introduced. Yeah yeah yeah well you know i mean there's a lot of stuff in the show that that's already fun to watch and see what they do and there's a lot of creative things that they've done very well while also taking advantage of that creative freedom to expand the storytelling way. I thought was pretty amazing for but they don't. Tv shows tv show for what it was introduced as is incredibly. Well thought out at this moment and some of these things even one of these to these things come true. It just shows that once again. They put a lot of thought into how carefully introduce their properties using everything that they have television and movies. I'm really impressed with this man. You guys anything else. I have anything else that you've seen theories are i don't know i don't have much more in the way of theories. I'm just digging the way this is going. Oh yeah like to quite a bit. A matter of fact i could have stuck with the very sitcom theme one more but i was like all right for everybody. Who's champing at the bit has to know here. You go but it's also good to really like dig into. Here's what's going on now. We can get back to it and you're not it takes away the anxiety of i hope they know what they're doing just lays it out like yes. They clearly know what they're doing. Yeah i'll i was one of the people that said all right by the third episode. Okay maybe change this up a little bit and get to. What's behind this. Not that. I was hating it. Just sit hey and at the end of that episode. They surely did they. Did bigger things In funny thing is after this like after this particular episode episode four. Apparently they're gonna go right back to the four sitcom for format you know. I really liked every episode. You know after the next one. This one was my favorite. I like that we. They explained all the weird events are happening was because they were trying to influence are getting contract dry. I loved all that stuff. That was amazing. Just outside of the theory stuff. And i just really appreciate. We're seeing a lot of time with wanda and whatever this form of vision is because one of the things that i was not even disappointed by. I wanted more of it where that relationship between vision and wanda got a little bit of that in civil war and other that was so good and brief again anywhere but now we're actually spending time with them as characters and when i'm thinking when i'm speckling and tragically because i think at the end of the day he has still dead. He is not real. I think he'll finally realize that in the end much like their relationship in the comics where it's gonna end in tragedy. What about their children. Who are now going to play a big role in the next episode because of the care about them she realizes like you are not real like it's that confronting what is reality. What is not in. Yeah she'll be better for yes. I like which is exciting. It's a very. It's a tragic tragic character. And while i'm saying if set up so many dark things including tragedies with the light tone of this which again makes sense because she created this light tone to to not be able to have to deal with reality. Yeah exactly which is cool. Man so yeah. This is a brilliantly thought out you know and like i said man with this. They did the biggest thing that i thought you couldn't ask for more where people say manny's superhero movies that doing the same thing and they're like now would not at the fug on no. Yeah good good for them and set the bar high. All these other shows are the thing lok is going to be a lot of fun. Man can win a soldier. I think that's going to be more of a straightforward action. Show a but what some cool things ensure it's definitely not deviating away from something from genre like this show is so i'm not even expected to loki. I think we'll lok is going to be insane. Yeah i can't wait to see what they do with this man. I mean look it took a while but all this is making Nothing else is making disney plus worth the the subscription right now between the mandalorian this and all these other things coming up very happy happy. What the doing so. Yeah folks watching the show. Tell us what you think title. You can tell us right now and chat are you can email us and you know what it reaches k. Kumons at dot com. Put up for you right there cake. Who man's at g mail dot com. What you guys think of the show though not show. I know you love it past thinking of one division. It's going on what you guys over there. I hope not that. Oh one more day with a reboot. Missile official says okay. I'll make everyone forget your secret identity. But the one thing i need is your marriage. Racist marriage is like what what why you ain't got shit to do a local being. The snyder could go to make it better. People saying good job. Ichi people saying it's good better better every episode. I'm waiting until the eps start to start watching ups. Yes this is. Cd are spock. Sparks is a thought. One division was wonders conscious. Trying to fight some kind of manipulation. But you could be back because it's proven that someone is actually manipulating reality. I don't know who he could. Who the he'll vision vision. Yeah somebody somebody predictable ashore. They didn't the background quarterback. You left. yeah man so there you go. There's dick devils calling the car. They enter never somebody say. Quicksilver is rumored to pop up. But i know that you will the actor. I know that the actor who play quicksilver in the the twentieth century fox movies has been spotted. They say onset now whether he's the same shit allies different versions of the people say character are not but they said they've seen them they bring back the her brother. Ann taylor john bring a brother. That'd be kind of cool. Why not bringing magneto as a fun of us. True people even like they were joking like they should bring back altron except he's like visions boss. Actually it's actually alter stopping basic. They say that the guy who plays the quicksilver from the last series. Evan peters evan peters spot on set those rumors that he might even be playing fiscal wall. Honey okay yeah smith moscow but maybe maybe tricksters having fun. I mean he's a he's a he's a really good actor and what people have done double duty. No that's true. Yep should people double duty in the same universe. Yeah michael jordan. Michael michael jordan and something else. Oh we'll get ten task for. I'm thinking no i'm talking about in marble in dc on. Oh let's see well. I was gonna say maybe. Maybe i think of netflix show. Because that. yeah. That's what. I was gonna say that to alpha wooded alpha wooded. She's in civil war right right right. She was sitting with. No that's true. She was such in civil war. But she's also the villain on luke cage. Yeah no but she was early on just a random woman. Just random talking to tony stark civil civil war. That's all right all right but then again. I'm thinking about that. Let's see here on ali. he'll be netflix. Alright oh let's see move on some things real quick making good time here today here by having a good time with us and let's see we got here all right folks let's move from. tv shows. That are off shoots the movies to actual movies themselves so the move to be reviewing right now. Something that we've been talking about a little bit. This is malcolm in marie now. First thing i'd say about malcolm. Marie that really stands out to me. That this is the shortest description than i've ever given for a movie before review which is one night a couple get into a huge argument. The end much where i mean. Listen i know that with an argument. There's a lot more the net. Listen this is just a long argument but that could still be cool because with arguments. They're always complicated within themselves. You know they about who's wrong. Who's right has anyone even write at all. In the worst secrets will be revealed throughout the argument. What do we learn about these characters as a lot that can be done from people yelling at each other. You know so you don't and there have been movies. I've been carried just by simple conversations. My dinner with andre just to doozer table tongue. So there's nothing wrong with that. You know all interesting points that can be made for having a movie about long argument but when that argument goes on almost two hours and there's really nothing else. Is that enough to carry a movie. We'll see with this. I saw trailer right here. And then we will be back with our review by far the most excruciating difficult stubbornly obnoxious woman. I've ever met entire life sauce. Pantic mix we. Well i mean yeah. When he's not being an emotional fucking host mystery unknown what supports the tension of a relationship you know what if factor marine hot noodles on cuba apple macaroni and cheese. What if there's someone who loved them better meals were hurt. I will care you. Know what malcolm i feel like once. You know someone. Is there for you once you know they love you. You never actually think of them again until you got to lose someone that you finally pay attention what is it. What do you want really want to go there. I don't care walk control because you can't imagine the reason i'm with you because i love everything that you've been through everything that's what nature you. The girl that. I love the girl that i fought with them back. Take all you hold tonight. Thank you knock man you know that. I'm thankful that i made mistakes. So why turn it into something more because about how you see this relationship make person can be for dear so this is pretty much as you can tell very minimalistic film right here. Got house very nice house. Got two good looking people. Stylish black and white gone on got gone on her. Really think is a kobe movie. I think this was made during the kobe time they needed. You know as may with minimal space may mental people so no one has to die for this radio and people say. Hey i'll die. Mar bullshit will make this the best way we can With with that being the case this is essentially a play play. Where a very dynamic cameron a lot of space to play with some awesome cinematography going on so being the play by play. You got you have this having to be cared by us to leads john. David washington is in dire. Both of them produces on this by the way said they if they were both like this movie why anything. I forgot what it was asking. Look it up. Bring it up on what i'm talking about. But the doing some history making thing with both produces one. Zero diabetes produce own here. Man she's getting her career. Start outside acting in hollywood very early good for her but with these two people carrying this movie look at takes a lot of energy for them to do that night. Say they have it like what you guys have to say. But you know both of these actors. Greatness i i feel john david washington a foot. I'll tell you this. Those thought that john david washington handle chops. He couldn't emote brother was wooden. He just didn't he got him because his daddy got hit me. And if that's what you're thinking you saw tenant. I wouldn't blame you because tenant didn't really give him a lot to do with his acting right there you know. She doesn't point with anyone when you let him make words just the point where he's his dollar was more of a prop than an actor and the christopher nolan movie at this point you just meant to carry his vision pretty much helps me understand the brothers talking about so you know with with with tenant. He didn't really have a whole lot to work with. It's almost like this. I mean he go like that. Mother gonna let me talk to you. Know free now. And they've john. David washington he brings it all. He's funny he's charming. He's mischievous with his was his retort some ties to the point where you just dow downright childish and you just see a lot of him man mainly like i said that energy i'm looking. He's kicking rocket. i mean. Come on yeah you know. I thought he was good. And then i'll pass you guys talk about diet man. You would not think that this person will have the acting abilities that it takes to do this. Just judging by but spiderman movies if she was in you know where she was a very different from what you see right here in but if you've ever seen her in anything else like she was annetta she's an show where she plays a teenage drug addict so you know she definitely has a lot of rain. She has a lot of depth. But what i'm impressed with with zendaya's dia has. This is a very young girl. i don't know she's even twenty five yet. Maybe she is but the thing is she. Has this incredible maturity in this role and and for anybody out the on bo you sex thousands girl she mature. Shut the fuck up. But i'm talking about is that she has to be the one that has to have the confidence and she's the one that's actually control of a lot of these arguments. And there's just a confidence and maturity that goes in these arguments damn. This girl is really good man. She's almost like an old soul with the way that she's carrying this this role right here in carrying the scenes that she's in with him because she has to be the one has to be sort of anchored down while he's losing his shit and by the way what you have here is that you have malcolm Play by john david. Washington is a filmmaker who just came back from what seemed like a very very good premiere of his film. People talking about him saying he's going to be the next spike lee on the next guy that directed moonlight barry jenkins and. Of course you know a lot of people have been through this before like. Everything's fine accepts. He no he just somehow some way he fucked up with his girl. He did not say the right thing. He did not do the right thing and she did. She say hey look. I'm glad you had a good night but fuck you. i'm up. i'm about to burn it all down because you didn't respect me the right way and so that leads to this huge argument between the both of them to wait. Almost you have to decide like is this going. Is this relationship going even last because they got a lot of baggage with this but what you guys think man especially particular about these two actors right here. I'll say this you know. I think that the title of the movie is not the best one because what it should be is and another thing. I was right there with you. Zendaya and john every washington like while they are carrying this because they're the only two on screen and their dynamic evolves constantly goes back and forth is the first lady first time she's control next time he's in control and then keep doing the same thing over again over and over again and then what happens is because you had this great thing we repeat and it so many times and it's like i'm getting diminishing returns at this point like what you're doing great but it's like is this all gonna be this point getting kind of kind of getting sick above you. I'm getting a little tired of this conversation. And how it's deceives the constantly escalate. Yes we get a big reveal when that person has a retort and then they switch sides and and now it's like not now that we're on top and another big reveal happens like okay. I see what the formulas here and then it becomes formulaic. Then i'm kind of anticipating everything then. I'm starting to get a little bored. Initially i was with the mood first. Half i was like oh. This is really good apples like okay. I see what you're doing here. And i'm just at the end. I'm just kinda tired. Yeah yeah it's it's perfectly where it should be on netflix. I got very interested after. I tell you about pass mar just as we talk about the arguments but arguments here. I felt like arguments. They didn't become uncomfortable now. That could be thing where. That's that's a good thing or bad thing because maybe that's what you want. Maybe you want this this really uncomfortable feeling if you have to sit there and watch them. Maybe one had you want to add. Bring some things we like. Oh god damn shit. What did you say that ten in the arguments not really uncomfortable in this. That could be a plus a minus. Because i kind of fun especially with malcolm. Malcolm just does a whole lot of mumble. Moon was fucking fuck with me mom. I've never seen someone eat macaroni cheeses aggressive of news. Actually picking up on the mike only even teachers he just. He's argued so much he gets tired. Argue there's a point where she says it'll be just grunting improv man. I'm gonna tell you something. Even though the arguments a non uncomfortable do not watch this. Your partner man. I'm telling you have y'all y'all y'all had the if you already got tension urine. Got some arguments going on Because i mean this is especially for a male female partnership because If you watch this which what your partner somebody gonna take sides and then that's going to bring us some shit that you did the movie to be liked. That was crazy right. I know he say reminded me a you man. I'm sorry i'm sorry. What exactly they would mitch. No you brought it. You probably should say a particular scene in here. And i knew i knew the must washes my wife. Some told me not to did. You did some told me not to do it. But there's something ahead of the seed here in my wife She's she look at me. But i heard a stay at the side of mayor they will. She's right and i was like off ideal. Talk tomorrow what you have said what you think of deal. I can't go to bed knowing that your anger. I promise you nothing productive. Who's going to me. Said 'cause i knew what does that mean. What does that mean. It means that you are literally incapable of the escalating situation unless it's work related and even managed fifty zero anytime anything could happen. You have to find some the most modern fucking detail heart to make ugly to ensure that. There's no reason to fucking celebrate korea. Wanna go there. Kiss okay all right then. What is his speech malcolm. I'll give me a break. Your outside of your mind when i said you find the most minor fucking detail and make it ugly admit forgot to thank not them not among them always she just like that shit like malcolm why you got fucked my life why you do this. You're the one who chose to watch it. I was about to wash wash that tune. God maybe she was so the whole time like please go well up fighting and it didn't helped malcolm and i had to agree with because it didn't help them. Malcolm was say the bunch of stupid shit man. I'll get them a little bit man one when you think about a so. You hot sauce or ketchup in here do we. 'cause i gotta eat a big plate of crow and i need something to choke it down everything that you were saying about these two actors. I honestly i wasn't even look forward to movie. Because i've always thought of them as kind of mediocre talents especially john david washington even less like wow. Suddenly he's leading movies but they're being stolen by is cold stars and it's nepotism the whole time and they are both amazing in this i was. My jaw was on the floor. It was like okay. So he's one of these actors where there's some actors who if you give them something that can be great with it and if you just give them a generic leading man. They don't stretch. but i was. I was fascinated. I was completely caught up and even with the arguments. I was like man. I thought this might be some movie. You mitch in french new wave and i was like this is going to be some some pretentious perfume commercial. That goes on for two hours. But i totally got wrapped up in. How what they were arguing about and how it came about. I was like this. Didn't feel like when those jerry springer things where it's manufactured as i see how this is coming about i it's it's very natural away it starts and way it escalates and the stuff they're saying to each other and it didn't feel so much like it was one big long argument but it was several it was. It was fight night and several bouts and you could score it all right well. She won the first one all right well. Hey he's got on that one Back and forth. But you know there was a lotta truth. And they had to deal with and as much as john david. Washington's character malcolm might have said some stupid things. I heard it was so much of what he was going on his rants. Oh just about film criticism and even her talking about the The the of film in all. I was like man. I'm i'm digging everything all saying i. Yeah i was totally on the edge of my seat with the entire time. I was loving it. Yeah and i was the one that wanted to love it. And i didn't i listen because there's a lot of stuff in here for me to love. That should be speaking to me every level which almost back the two of them made me think a you that you tell us what your wife i was like. Oh that's that's unfortunate. I was like yeah. These are those as we. You and i have talked about those two. Am arguments when you try to go to sleep. Yes and it's like this is us won't let this go with you. And i thought we had it subtle and now it's back again and is usually because he's a creative and i'm a creative. You know as useless shit like you work too much. You did this and you prefer art and job over me. And i'll fuck you know. So on the warning i relate very well and also this is a stylish as movie man learn much. I love men if first of all. This isn't a home that fits the cool of the black and white the setting and everything. The set design physical the black and white. They have a well chosen soundtrack of jazz and soul. That fits the mood. I was drinking bourbon while i was watching this and felt like well. You know what. I'm i'm really into the atmosphere. The an the arguments that did not mind because the actors do it so well. I would even recommend that if you don't like the arguments here watch it for the actors man because actors do an incredible job with carrying this film. The problem for me really is that is too long. It's a point where the arguments for me. They would just sorta repetitious man after a while. Because at that point with arguments about like a real argument. That's the point where you know you. That's what you leave his. Y'all need to talk. So i'm just gonna go say and i again again. If this had been like an hour and fifteen minutes. I really would love that. But i just did not like some the directions that they were going with the with the arguments and mainly because we always talk about a battlefield now bottle film. That's kind of what this was about a film drama and with that. I just feel like there should be the stakes are increasing. The reveals are higher and higher the escalation reveals more. This argument plateaus from me after a certain point. And the reason why does is because malcolm is a whiny bitch about the dude one in the war and this is an interesting thing. I don't think it's a movie. Be an argument for the whole way through. I guess his character being whiny bitch through it. But it just doesn't go anywhere after that there moments where stops in malcolm is completely talking about some social political sel intellectual film mumble jumble shit and it's just kind of like man you get. The monitor is now because you just whining about it you won. You won the attention and adoration of people that night. You got a positive review and you're still crying about that and it would be great if an argument could be made in a way that lent itself to something that was interesting but then he start spouting off stuff dot. Thank you when you have a film student make a movie. They wanna tell you all. They won't let you know. I know about the history of phil i know about these legendary artists and let just go ahead and spin those out. Pull them out. And whatever. And i'm just kinda like all right you know it's great arguments and energy behind them and everything but the just doesn't go anywhere for an hour forty minutes with me. Hour and fifteen would've loved it would have been cool. I'm cool with that. Sometimes less is more like. I think it really is diminishing returns after you get bored with it or like. Yeah because you're at that one point where the argument doesn't feel as ernest or as natural some of the other ones it. Just it feels like arguing like issy fit at that point. It's like i'm just kinda don't really wanna be with you. Let's go to another scene usually. Hey we end this between this characters and let's go to the next thing but no it's just as one continuous evolving argument. That goes over the the for nearly two hours hour. Forty five minutes. Like if i was in the room. Them in this compensation. Like i i i would have been louche. It'll be good again. Get to admit yeah but after a while just like all right. You know what i would i would have been the one that get up and like y'all ain't saying shit about nothing shut up stopped. Talking isn't no more. I felt like with this. I want to leave but is also you want to think of it. This way against sick of the argument i can. I can take feel about this movie getting sick here in these people. These these have some pretty people argue. But you don't want to leave because they got some good drinks and a house so nice up every now and then every now and then somebody will drop some crazy shit that shit but then you know this is like all right ain't going i didn't hate it. Actually i mean always said and hate. It doesn't little extreme. I should say that. All criticisms criticisms i did enjoy. It is just wild is welcome after a while but there's so many things that are good here if like martin if you can if the arguments are really pulling you in the ninth grade you got something to stick around because everything else is great what they did and i and i recognize normally. I'll like play where where the argument is is escalating. A new things get dropped and the fact that this didn't do that was almost refreshing to me. Because i was like. This is more like a real argument. That doesn't always happen a lot of times. The big stuff comes out front. But it's all these little things and it's the but what do we really arguing about. Let let's get down to that. And i went back and forth on man these these two people they don't need to be together and then it'd be times it's like well i guess they they do have some. That works no no. They're both toxic. Yeah yeah but it's better there together with somebody else and and then i am a debate at least in my head over have. They said anything. They can't walk back because at first it felt like a did but maybe they could. I don't know there's there's there's a lot going on and yeah malcolm is a whiny bitch. That's that's just part of it. I didn't mind that. yeah okay. Yeah because i was like yeah. That's just that's just how he is. It makes them both flawed in a way where you're constantly reexamining how i thought about each of them. Yeah yeah yeah it. Just like i like me and my wife have never had an argument. That's gone that long about that. But i think of times when it's like that close or citizen man that's a that's a bonus said he's arguments never to the point where like god. I'm caught by watching him it. It's like it's not like marriage story. Mary story is like shit. Man i know. I want to leave but this is so comfortable now. This is a real argument. And that's fine. I think that's great that they did that. I like i said it. Just you know it's not it's not it's not two hours but it's an hour and forty five if you had the credits forty six be up the credits on so yeah. That's why that's what i'm saying. Somebody said i'm being buyers want to fuck me. Bosnians angle about to go up. I'm just saying it'd be biased about what it's so funny. Here you give the review. I expected to give like. I said man i like it i do i do i actually but i just want to like it more. That is my frustration with it man. On what the denied i guess. If i was to give us a rating i would give it a high rental. Oh no no no no no. I'm not yeah. There's so much stuff going on. I tell you man i am the director. I have a lot of respect for the director of this movie. Man because this is a dude who like tell you. I like directors at the la directors i. You'll you'll hear me mentioned the names. And i haven't even seen all the movies but i just appreciate appreciate their body of work if you have a director that is very eclectic has a lot of variety of different works in his background. Then i i really a- a like that i appreciate about director this director kind of the same person. A director directed a movie called. You see here. Assassination nation and. Have you heard of this. Yeah but i kept planning to watch it. Never got around to it. Yeah this movie right. Here is very much different. You know this is this. Is the movie about teenage cheerleader. White girls who go crazy and start brandishing guns and started taking city. Something else spring breakers. It's one thing that held me back. I was like this sounds kind of sounds a lot like spring breakers now he directed this ultra cool stylish movie with two black leads and he created you for you for years old. My three best friends backs and sarah and this is the story of how my town. Salem lost its mind. Let's start at the beginning. The you know it's like a very different movies. So i appreciate somebody like switching their tones up. Catch you off guard. We look at it. You would never guess that he did this other project over here man. I have a lot of respect with director. But if i had to go ahead and give it a rating i recommend people watch it some. You might like it obviously. Everybody has different tastes. Sound like you really loved his loved it. yeah. I can't love it. But i hope that other people do because i do appreciate it and as a lot of stuff here so good about it. Well i guess my only point is of my biggest plaza length and that it really doesn't escalate not that every movie needs to escalate. You know supposed to just to pick to real people you know. I haven't a very very off night and I respect the high rental from me. Yes sir going to say about that. Well look at. You agree agrees with him wrapping up. Take your point. I'd like we have one of these minute review your vehicle no smallest detail but you have a way of doing this and i see every time iago. You'll catch blessing not. Oh yeah. This movie was was was a huge surprise for me whereas to see it on paper to people argue for an hour and forty five minutes and it doesn't escalate. I'd be like yeah. I want no part of that but between the acting and how well directed it is just just great direction. Camerawork for a simple premise. But it's like man. You really really cared about this and got me into it and kept me the whole time. I thought i might check my phone or do something. And i was just sitting length this the the entire time really got into what they were what they were saying the whole time. Honestly if if we. If i'd seen this before we were doing i top ten. It would have made my list. But i give it a high full price you know and i have to say. I'm glad that you love it. Because i want the movie. Do well it was done like for you. Guys is like oh glad. That's over when it was done. I was like shut. Kinda wanna watch this again. I wasn't drunk next time you do have a bird was. That was one of the things that was feeling all this the whole time. I was like this probably wouldn't be happened happening if he wasn't drinking so much. Yeah i i was just like yeah. This is what this is. What alcohol a night like this does he. That was a lot of what was fueling making him so wild. I mean he had that night and thought it was go one way and it was not any wouldn't stop drinking. Yeah yeah i'm glad you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Man and great direction. Great acting just the premise outlived. Its welcome to a point where i kind of got tired of it. It's like yeah. Zendaya and john david washington. This is probably some of the best performances of the career. Certainly i would say john david washington but it's it's just the whole concept of them going back and forth this tit for tat and it's like i saw the formula. It's like okay. I see how how this is and i. I just felt bored by by the very end. And i wanted. I wanted it to end. So it's perfectly where it should be on netflix pie rental. Go all right all right folks see. I'm sorry in data we've been saying it. Argh about right. See we got going on here. We'll go ahead and getting some a real quick. You know not here. Hey if we're getting into to. The emails was something. I would just want to say that people out there. That toast these. If you are a friend of for dynasty it'd be a good town to reach out to him. He had some really terrible happen and could use a friend. What having a hand got carjacked. Really it it's on top security video. Showed it to me. Dan and he's just like i don't want to burden people with it and you know people love you. They want to reach out. And what did he do. What do you mean to bring it on himself. When he did kick on total could driving around bad parts town man. I mean louis that's bab. Nah man. I'm sorry that yeah. That's it was really hard to watch it. Yeah man i'm sorry to hear that. Nah i did not know that happened to them. I condolences to man. of course. yeah. Yeah yeah not very far. Oh jeez that's but they got the guy is he is he the real mccoy in the chat. I don't know. I know he's not okay. All right people. Let's see we got here. oh. I hope he's okay. I mean you can be okay but still. Ptsd with let's see we got here. So the real mccoy just answered. No thank you appreciate that. We were going to have chris harlow phone. But oh yeah we just keep Missing not long again. We're gonna have him on first but he has something to do. Let's see here Can we mention his new project. Always next season of. Oh schmos yeah okay. Yeah oh this is from george jameson. I've just watched the little things with denzel washington and rami malek. I thought it was pretty good. But i was wondering if you thought there was a racial aspect denzel washington story in the movie not to spoil anything but do you think the races will reverse between the victim and the cop with what he did years before. Do you think he would have been treated the same way by his former colleagues. Thanks so hard question to answer. What us anything Probably gag script has been around for a long time so they probably would that care it going to have the same outcome no matter who and i'm feeling kind of racial component. Tell you that nah. I did not see that not to say it wasn't there. I'm just saying that. I didn't see it. Well things man. I wonder how this is doing because it did very well. I think i think it well at the theatres. Yeah which is cool. You know i. What is this look at box office for. Probably a year. Yeah let me see the little things man. I it is another one where i didn't. I hate the movie. I thought it was. I thought it has some good parts in there. But i still thought it was coming mediocre movie mainly because i just don't think it took advantage of the talent lead to will the united exactly department favorite. Spit out. They changed a lot since he left. Still gotta catch him right not that much what. Hbo's cool to put this on hbo. Max one brothers was cool to put this on. Hbo max. because. I think that it's fine right there. I think theaters. That would have been something that would have been kinda middling little slower but then again people some people liking it. Some groovy jillian phoenix can get birthday. Shout happy birthday. You can't get a shadow but you can ask you whisper. Happy birthday whispered no happy birthday. Julian juliette phoenix. I wish i had more details about like whole your mr l. No mystery meat. I said it's it's a mystery to me. Yes missed three. Meanwhile you don't listen midstream. Oh there's chris going. Kindergarten teacher was mystery meal. Chris talking crazy looking. Say crazy stuff like that. That's the same man. I stopped doing crazy. Shit you no way misery to me. Yes jesus jesus christ an animated noah's ark film is in production. Hey crews from mr yeahs man. Did you know that. The director titanic. The legend goes on producing animated. Noah's ark film in two thousand seven. Well he can get off that water. I got i got a fucking arm. Be paying went on. No they have like a jazz singer with like furry like big bus but bosoms and everything. Okay i got team. Nancy say that new one. I want you to see this. Food is crazy minute in their on. Noah's ark by the way probably had a bunch of stuff left over from the night tannock moving all these assets. Let me see mister. I'll take a look at this Mgm is making a movie about the game. Stop stock drum. I shouldn't got no ending yet. See how plays that. Wow and see what wall street bets is gonna pick next to manipulate the market. Somebody yesterday was so positive about us. The about us about me. Megan investment in there. He says go is going to go up and down up and down. You should go off against you so you should put some money in just a little bit. I don't know man. Maybe i'll put six hundred dollars seven hundred. Anc how does i mean. Because i have. I lose it then. It's like well you know we can't use robinhood because you're only buy one share. Yeah i think. I don't know i might cause i mean. Listen i can do this and say a history that happened and i knew goodwill that i could lose it just to see what would happen so maybe i'll put six seven hundred dollars into see what happens because if i lose that angle be losing sleep. I'm not gonna you know you. Should you corey coleman who six hundred and seven hundred dollars. You'd lose it. You ain't gonna lose sleep. Well because i know going in what can happen as long as i know him gambling with it s fine because literally gambling. As long as i'm doing it and don't have to like really worried about it. If i if i talked to myself and say hey look you know and i'm still want to give the next show. Say yeah i love money wiped out me. Let's see. I don't know i don't know man should i even signed a contract with twitch it still waiting to see a man. Where's big pook cats. Oh there it is yeah shit looks real look stupid it looks come on spoil it. You know it'd be funny. Unlike the titanic what at this what this sinks and kill everybody with people made the dogs the castle tarantino ending change history s. You see jesus what this is like watching the animated version of cats. Yeah we were. We were petrified to think. The world that we once knew was gone with level. Oh and too far away. I was like well. They have the rb animals on hand. Now they got disco albums. I want to take away your pain in the new world. It's free for ray i want. I want you dear. Don't try. I wouldn't bother if you come with me. Substrata furry shit you see how much the animators pay attention to the boob bounce. Yup yup physics put that ass. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an asshole cut of this. Be the ones who leads you to ask you. Can i hope that you will understand that. Every school burqa. Jack up right now folks of the plan i will. Anybody say i can eat my appetite and my teeth all areas. Shaw carnivores who. Who's with me to take it off already is spread that far. This is crazy. What type of cat is she supposed to be. Sexy sexy canton creatures from version of this nipples. All on that cat man. I'm sure this is insane. Fuck of these people doing this. This is crazy. This is a hard on right now. He's so this line is sold his horn. he's trying to fuck stands little such. It's okay let's grab your hands. I'll shimmer plate with michelob. Cannot take his eyes off the stage. He should get new. Yeah man oh cardi b. of enemy fact. I can't hear all these atoms will come out. Stop he's we can't accept what happened. What was this duck marocco. Come on what are hannibal's doing any weight. His ass like marlon brando. Remember that the preemptive goddamn limps off fucking toward the answer is but these are not guys creating now. Since is the boat of sin this ship now all these animals fucking each other. Can you blame visit. Oh somebody says suggestion for the spoiler sets segments. This is from ben. Hong tran says maybe a suggestion. To let the scroll running with something like one division spoiler talk as a visual reference for those at tune out because some viewers like myself haven't watched it yet because we haven't had time yet are simply saving up with a whole season of binge say me From tuning in out every time when wondering whether you know come on man you know we do you know by now that these are discussions. How long have you guys been doing this. How many years at this point. I mean look i've seen other. No it was it was it was the five hundred time though. That's one advan- needed. I'm not trying to say it's a suggestion. But i know you've been here long enough that you know what's starts shitting usually with the smaller stuff. We do it at the second half of the show or later resume as opposed to i. It's not a bad idea. it's not a bad idea. I you know what i'll think about that now. Does not a bad did see. It talked about him a call him and amora. Yeah but you know. He's he makes some good points stupidest. Fuck but good idea. No no man. I don't think about it now. I'll i'll i'll definitely see. That's not a bad that can make a graphic habit workout and everything. Yeah right just for you as you have to have. She wants shut up now. I can do this this idea. Man let me see here. This is from mr spice. He says here martin and chris you guys talked about all the horrible things must have happened when the snap was reversed. Roussel brother explain this by saying that. When the hawks snapped everyone back he made sure that they will all be brought back in a safeway for example if someone was in plain says plan here but almost like someone was gonna plan when they were snapped like in the middle of a heist assam. When they came back. There would be okay kind of an unrealistic answer but still good to know. Hope you're all doing well loved joseph. I think that's a cool very convenient way. But you could still write something where that's not one hundred percent. Well people fall out at sky but still all the mix ups. I mean the whole thing of coming back and discovering that your spouse's married somebody else. I'm sure hooping take care of that. Yeah yeah no. He did not off. Your mother was died of cancer to be there. Yeah there's a good explanation too because it says that. No matter how foolproof. They tried to make this. And there's always loophole is something you can't see so i mean thank you for the email that would be a anyone that would even make it more interesting like you could never predict what too many variables avenue plus that explanation right there. Now kind of recall what was being said. I still think that that that's way too convenient rather that we got. Bring everybody back. And they're like oh shit she didn't figure out how we're going to bring them back. Like were the circumstances so the this i think that's that's a product of what we did. I mean i kind of like that. Banish a genius so it does make sense that he would think ahead but not just like. I can't cover all the bases. Yeah yeah what should address They even talked about some things where people came back and were divorced. And i think they made a joke about far from home and the teacher teacher. Yes sir that's right. That's right so while it was funny you know. Let's see some serious repercussions from this. Oh i see what you're trying to do over there. The you have the wherewithal to see it through. You shouldn't star. Somebody came finish addressed dot hype train. They keep it going so bad right now. Doing pretty well. Let's say none say none. They put a but but somebody put a video of you up there chris. You're second grade. Helmet didn't fit right to loose so they have a young white daddy video. Let's see here on create a new one our script but let's see it won't go on one of the beginning here our own one division. Me was all kind of dark she'd happening. Let's see here coming. Don't you just love zoom lower count. Not as much is loving post workout much. You said we were having bomb me sandwich order. Yeah you're my chrissy. make them. and now. He's got me obsessed with joe pesci zimba class. Uh zoom somebody motorboaters blue. That's what i was eleven about. Maybe i'm hearing things to. We see lava zuma workout. Not as much as i love a pulse workout much. You said we were having bomb me sandwiches. Oh yeah utah. Sounds like ler of you making that sound in the background doing want to say no that is definitely media that came out of your mouth to symbolize context here maybe maybe all will be revealed blackout. Not as much as i love it post. Workout much you said. We were having balmy sandwich. My chrissy how to make them and now he's gonna be obsessed with by the way. You and corey have been spending an awful amount of time together lately. Sweden and having some fun together scratchy bad. What's been online. Nothern the screwed as fun as turn to. Thomas had not notice. You weren't as the probably because you do it. Distracted might be. she's not as white pledge. You have gotten used to his of late. But i assure you spill put the balance to the knights. What is going on here own. Nothing son just showing what a real buddha can do mama. We talked about this. This man is no take your overdue for another upbeat. Del son and then little white boy isn't here to save you this. I am the terminator in by the way i do know that song. That's the song i remember. That song came out years ago. In two thousand like when ninety nine eleven happened because they made a remix of it with osama bin laden loon. Ah sunlight that saw last time together window right case. I hope your medicaid paid up coin. Let's rush them like last tall boys. Just what are you doing. I can't cope basic training kicking me. The god god leaves you now. Mama herman i had the sneaking suspicion that you have is for my pride. But if he's able to ride this pony awesome. Just i check. Your book disrespected me. We question mama. Coleman let me borrow you know screams anywhere. Don't tell me you don't recognize me after all these us. No it can't be coach. 'davis coach pot. You're back in the second service. The pedal being passed up took a part time gig coach. Elementary boys's pe. That is onto love. Recognized it up to all these years. You try to manage this time. Knock you so hard your own mama will recognize you plug like get gates hundred on my sweet baby boy now on. You go never told me about any this. I was embarrassed. Plus i always thought sergeant. Thomas look familiar. I just wanna get it wrong and sound like what you thought. All the to authorities black people look alike exactly as very sweet. And you chris. Don't worry he can never hurt you. Again mama coleman's got you now and forever forever ever apple pie love it. I love i love. i love that one. I loved that when man absolutely bravo. Bravo the latest. Thank you the latest episode in my young white daddy did that one was non. Was that harry who did down none right. It must be. I think so. Yeah i'm dismayed hanania. Was that how did that. They're nice very nice man. I loved it. Loved it good work. Good work my friend. Jesus now chat stuck. Why there we go. That's just great. Yeah there it is. I'll check it on song here. It is this is a song that you can hear. Also a sugar run run. Who interview swish chef. Let me tell you. I saw so many remixes of this back in the day. We're talking about like. I said like when nine eleven happened i never knew the guy that did the saw her. So i've never seen this guy. Wow so whiplash. The towers being attack is only one of the worst things that happened. Atlanta gotten everyone knew us a classic parody to death. I imagine yes yes it is and hopefully to death ask can never seen it before today so i don't know it might be something going on with somebody my head down syndrome summits leaders what you've got to be careful. Donald does not feel bad. Because you know me. I'll say something and i'll be fucking billing tomorrow. This is the world. We live in cancelled. La yeah fuck away from the beginning sir. Run search for tomorrow. Data is now. I wanna know. Where'd you hear me. Yeah i told you. I was this when you had like new ground still around. Yeah they would make in The song apparently was so popular they would make re mixes up and doing videos. I remember seeing video of osama bin laden they they did a remix him Why after nine eleven. They were like these videos making fun of him. You know waiting to get him shit. Didn't wanna this song. So yeah somebody said the new subway please. I would get on your nerves. Somebody's dances to put paid to be they. They got paid to be there. And that's why it is this is. Jj we just perfect example is as old as me from two thousand. Yeah i remember. I thought that might have been in the background but it was you. I'm sorry i did a little. Chris said it and it didn't get questioned. Have done that. Maybe people somebody said batman on drugs. I never saw that one. Somebody said i thought it was corey. I'm not alone. Should i do Wasn't he l. to county. Whatever so yeah play is. Jj now shit. Y'all see put their this is it. This is the one okay. So i went crazy. Yeah this is the video game around Say it was funny. I just said i remember. They want to look at a legacy. What i'm sure in two thousand and two killed. I remember the fucking video saw for twenty years impact on me barely. Larry time remember when ears smith twenty years. That's right jason comedy change. Yeah sometimes there's an age. Well yeah you know in. My mind was seeped up better that you see this video and it was up so perfectly watching You tell him yeah people. I had nothing to do with this. I'm not proudly putting it up. I just said i remembered. Remember the song. I don't know feel like you've just promoted bring back some latin remix back. Oh see here you. I'm glad to know that. I didn't remember crazy because i did remember that video. I'm even more chalayan founded. I knew somebody was going to move forward. But i'm impressed. She found somebody to say liam neeson's old s still running. What is good show tonight. 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What i heard what reviews that screen and forty and he may rovers in the backseat looking. God do mix can see that. I was the best mexican. But who's the best dog stars a writer. I think we got a lot of emails but we mabay hong. I was playing man. Fakhr about a reference back in yes. I'm not gonna talk some bowlers by wanted to see malcolm marie review the only visual reference to back in because when i suddenly stopped seeing vision. Start seeing zendaya. Got you all kind of crazy. No you're right very hong tran. I know i was joking. Joking you're right. I'll tell you what next time we do. I'll have a visual made up for that. Certainly will i might get Kevin keen to get a visual made for that one that we can actually even customized for every review that we do. So yes sir you are right now. He just joking at plane chet then day. Goddamn motherfucker get it right. Yeah maybe if you had like a little splash in the corner did you say it's spoiler talk and it could flash and then we'd get done it goes away. Yeah and that's not enough. It's not hard to do the undoing. Let's see here array guys. I'm planning add right now. But i will. I'll let me see y'all read out for real. let that go through. S dos. tally core. I want to know your thoughts on the future. Marvel shows of the marvel shows which ones you most excited about in the least that. You're not excited about same question. Goes to you guys over there. I'm probably talked about that. We mentioned that. But i'll say it again. I really want to see what they do with the falcon and winter soldier but locals looking. Really kind of weird to me mad. Love the weird stuff that doing so. That's the one. I'm looking forward to the most Yeah i guess so. I mean i'm more of a. Hey there they got one over with this first series. So i'm interested equally to see what they do at the others. I'm curious what they're gonna do with moon with a superhero. That actually suffers from mental illness. How are you going to handle that. Yeah so oscar. Isaac a fairly so so that's true that's right the new moon night ways off though. Yeah i it's so far off I'm very curious about hawkeye. Kate bishop museum. Oh see renzo says. I can't stop sending this so he's not going to stop and look at it. Can't stop won't stop. Can't stop won't stop characters. Oh man i'm not lying. I know john charming. I know about these characters all the time and your drawings and everything. But i liked him. I looked at the enemy. these so there we are. Oh billy make l. That have my singing. I'm around your neck or shoulder. Mars looking to billy's peanuts rate as a home. Mike it was. Christopher tori is angry me is apparently in the us so from the stars of horrible stories onto land. I guess that's what he's doing right there. So that's his version the double toast virginal young land. So they just go. 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