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The Steelers Power 1/2 Hour: The most impressive Steeler exhibitionists this preseason

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31:07 min | Last month

The Steelers Power 1/2 Hour: The most impressive Steeler exhibitionists this preseason

"Welcome to be high on behind so curtain dot com worthy pittsburgh sealer power half hour and we're getting closer season. We're we're all over week away outside. Mrs. it's really exciting. To finally actually be beyond the preseason look forward to the actual games. This is going to be a great year. I know we've been nervous about it. This whole offseason. But i'm really excited about what's happened in preseason were show in things that we were as fans we were nervous about So excited to see that the team is finally putting together. filling some of those gaps and ready to move forward this year. This week we are talking about the five most impressive steelers during the preseason. We understand that guys played different amounts of time. But here the five guys impresses the most. And i asked sam what she will be here on. Number five rashly. There's a tie so we're gonna name. Both of these guys are first of all our favorite putter in the whole world now the great presley harbin. Yes sir that's right. that's what i'm talking about. he won the job and and on the pike. As we were -ticipant you win the job because he was a drastic and usually you keep your draft pick the younger guy but joined bury actually had pretty good Train campus well but to give the young guy harbin. He's art department for the team. This year. very excited about that. Those couple of that very first game. He did such a great job painting the cowboys deep. Several times says that thunders boot that just does everything that we need out of punter. Very excited to see him there. Yeah we expected this to happen because he was a draft pick and you know jordan berry for the second year in a row gets left off when it comes to start the season but very excited about what this young man is going to be able to do. Get your jerseys. And he plays classical music he throws really well on fake punts steelers fans. You know maybe played linebacker for the team. Who knows i'm using the fun. Something about about harboring. It's awesome and here's another guy slipping the radar for some people but joan. The linebacker one impressive. He had some saxon. Preseason six tackles on special teams here in linebacker spying over quincy rochet whose aims to team more so jones really stepped up for the series. I'm calling him a tie for fifth pole. Certain few on this one. What did you think about. Jones's preseason it was solid. And i think that's one of the benefits there is because That's for me. Was one of the concerns was our linebacking core. And i think to have. Maybe not the star quality that we'd want but to have the depth so that if devon bush's injury comes back if there's an issue there we have we have some depth there so that we're not completely in abide so i don't know that we necessarily have the the biggest name linebackers but i think we have a nice solid deep bench for linebackers to these to be serviceable and to help. Shore up the middle. That defense is even in our division. We've got some running backs that are going to run up the middle on us and we need to be strong there and so the more guys we have Serve in that role. The better joe. Jamir jones led the team in special teams tackles with six. Bobby john will. Buddy johnson the second with three and jones. Some saxon defensu You know with ingram and tj y and highsmith what. We're expecting a lot of jones at linebacker but looks good at special teams. Will you think about when we talk about putting putting together power five lists of people who were pleasant surprises. Jamir jones was a was a major surprise. I have really expected. Quincy rotated do a lot better than he showed on the field. I still think he's got a great career ahead of him. And i'm a little bummed that he signed onto another team practice squad. Because i think that's gonna come back to bite us in years to come but if jamir jones can continue to show what he showed this preseason. We may not miss him so much. You know everybody i'm gearing. He'd beat rochet on the field really training camp and preseason. It definitely helps. So what's go down to the fourth. You know choice. We can't see it will be here to we. Just give the hawk line and you know i look at this. This so question marks about the offensive line. Either team has gotten the regular season games but going into the year. Big question marks all over the place with the offensive line at least for the first couple. Preseason games i'm seeing some hopeless. The steelers offense of wine on the guy puts during the regular season. When you're going against the starters you know four quarters of game. But i'm seeing some growth. I'm seeing. I'm seeing some reason for hope and you're not gonna have five pro bowlers on this squad but if you see at least a little bit of improvement from some of the nets you saw last year sooner much better than the previous years very true even think that given the fact that offensive line was a huge huge huge question. Mark going in to the preseason this year nobody knew how this group of guys were going to be able to communicate with each other to to work those schemes to provide protection and the fact that they've all come together and it isn't the question mark that it was they're still a little bit of of Wait and see when it comes to see what actual game speed is gonna look like when it comes from actual nfl game instead of a preseason. We aren't going into the year with the gloom-and-doom that paul would normally be giving us about. How horrible the offensive line is gonna play and how that's going to affect everything else. I think we've we're coming out of the preseason a lot more solid in offensive line than we thought we were to be shot further. Paul what do you think. I'm gonna fire back and i i know that it bring it. I've been fighting a coal. I've been pretty cold all day. It might be the coal talking. But i'm watching a different offensive line I saw kendrick green getting manhandled chokes for the second row been moved over to the right side. Because he's not working out at the left side We've now got a dan. Moreover on the left side. Trying that out. I look at the line and i'm like oh it's worse than i thought it was going to be. So that's Those are my two cents. I'm not looking at this as you know you've got into moon does and you know hall of famers all over the place i saw last year in very cringe-worthy i'm melissa actually looking at as i'm optimistic because maybe it won't be quite as cringe-worthy as it was last year i guess low and i'm with you yeah. There was some cringe-worthy moments. I can't felt like it was a little less cringe-worthy than last season i don't know i hope you're right. I i just have fears with looking at how tough our schedule is that. We're going to see an offensive line. That is kinda getting manhandled shopped around. I hope i'm wrong. I hope i'm one hundred percent wrong when we've got a couple guy on the the gonna start the season on injured reserve. So there's there's some hope that when those guys come back in they may shore up a little bit harder. But i i don't know you may be looking at a different is than me But i i think we're not as bad off as i feared we were going to be as fans. Were just what we're just watching. i hope. hopefully you're wrong about this. And i'll be ozone right there. Okay well let's go down number three and you know i'm seeing both sides of this argument On our guys we have been at number three now. ben played Louver quarter play. This preseason He looked very well against the lions. Now i've got a friend who's a big detroit. Lions fan and sell the me that one of a three would look very well. Playing quarterback into lines are going to be a royal mess this year. But i look back flashier. And i hate as a sewage. Podcasts looking very difficult moments for the team but last year you know. Ben look bad against the bad bingles defense and seeing here. I know a monday night. Game blatantly year is not the same as a preseason game. I get that but i like the fact that least finless making throws Ben did what he needs do. Yeah it's going to be in seeing what happened to get some tougher. Defenses in the nfl. By i felt good. That ben was not embarrassing himself. Or the team bemba's playing pretty well and is echo hold offer something games. I hope so. But i'm cautiously optimistic and i'm okay with ben coming in at number three on the list joke yeah. I'm not even cautiously optimistic. I'm completely optimistic. I think. I had put ben as not as my number one and the biggest reason was how badly everybody who was outside of Steeler nation was dogging on the prospects of having been rothlisburger as a quarterback for For another year All of those expectations were set so low. Every single person. Who's talking about. The game is talking about how he's completely washed out. He's got no arm. He has absolutely no vision on the field anymore. Just absolutely disastrous. And you know when he's when he's putting up huge numbers in a season where he had gone eleven. Oh even an ugly games found a way to win i just. I can't hardly fathom how badly he was being spoken about by everyone and so i found it a pleasant surprise that he was able to perform at a level that basically shut all those people up. Is he going to be perfect. No is he going to be ben rothlisberger from ten years ago no is going to be a different game this this year that the whatever all the prospects of how they thought the year was going to go. I think it's going to be very different than people were predicting and that was shown in the preseason. Paul will you think yeah. I mean obviously a very small sample size but he looked. He looked good Seeing him kind of move around was was refreshing to see again. Yeah i was very nervous Despite how well he did perform uster. I was nervous. I'd feel a lot more comfortable if we had some cam newton as our backup instead of mediocre mason. But i know it looks like he's healthy. He looks comfortable. And i think that is going to be a good sign for the steelers season. A comfortable ben healthy ben which clearly we didn't see last year i think he was still rusty. So yeah i put them to one because it was such a small sample size but that little that we did see looked very good. All right I think that's where the commerce comes on the big ben. How worried would you have been. If let's say you know the game he gets detroit. Ben look tough. Like ben look like. Let's say it was like he looked to get cincinnati. How scary would that be for us. Assertions very saturday that would have been really bad. If we would be put into a position has fans watching watching our quarterback struggle as mightily as was being foretold. You know i got really upset. Every time i kept hearing all these people talking about how he wasn't going to be able to play. And the steelers were just basically foolish for pony up the dough for another year out of this guy and to have seen him come out and play and look a little bit rejuvenated and to be able to find ways of playing behind our offensive line ways of making space. So even the what. They're doing an office of line doesn't have to be perfect. He has the ability to get to the outside. He can roll. He can get rid of the ball quickly. He he's got a players around him that he feels comfortable dumping the ball off to and they're they're paying attention to them they're in sync so even though it's a small sample size was very happy to see all of those elements coming together quickly enough to feel confident going into week. One all right on that note. Let sicker break on here. On the behind the steel curtain dot com with the picture sealer power. Half hour. we'll be back shortly. Thanksgiving comer welcome back to the pittsburgh steeler power half hour here on behind the curtain dot com. And we're talking this week about the five most impressive steelers so the preseason let me recap on jamir. Jones came out of nowhere to take one the backup outside linebacker spots we got time for fifth presley. Marvin the new punter for the steelers very exciting stuff number four. We had the offense wine. We give a little grip award there for the office. Line there well right now. We are talking about big ben and he looked good small sample size against the tree. But hey as steelers fans we gotta take what we can take so excited to see. How big ben suing. I got echo Some of the other people here on the beyond so curtain dot com. Look some talking about cam. Newton cam newton was released. Learn the week by new england patriots and suddenly some suicide finch like wow. Wouldn't it be great if he became a backup with the steelers. Well here's the issue. My feeling and i don't have sources are saying this. I think part of the reason why kim's they'll longer patriot is as a veteran. He's probably like hey. I won backup somewhere. I won't start now. I can't see was the exception. Maybe the colts and the cowboys. Who have some injury concerns a quarterback who he's potentially start for but you know maybe he won the opportunity and i as long as big ben holds up. He's on certain. Sealers so i don't see him. Wanted to be a backup in pittsburgh over places sluts. Calm down that discussion and let's just be happy. Big big bend and yes. But there's a difference between backing up a future hall of famer and backing up mack jones. That's a little cold hall of famer. Okay the difference. Then well it for some of cam newton who was League mvp went to the super bowl to back up an rookie as opposed to backing up. Somebody like ben that that's a whole different scenario. I feel like i i. I agree with you in the sense that i think why he's no longer with the patriots is that he is not interested in doing any type of backup work. I think he's far more interested in where he's going to be able to start if anybody who's looking at his year last year and starting to question his his capability his longevity as a as a professional starting quarterback. That's not going to change by sitting on the bench for a year so he's got to continue to strike while the iron is as hot as it's gonna get. Let's put it that way. And so i would have to agree i. I wouldn't see him wanting to come to pittsburgh if he wanted to start for well and it is. It is in pittsburgh. I think the start here. No i think the other element here is on our list of five people were excited about coming out of preseason. I think we're all a little bit disappointed that none none of our list includes mason. Rudolph or dwayne haskins like. We really knew the list wouldn't really wanted to see something out of one or both of them. But i don't think either one of them showed us enough for us to feel solid and comfortable about the future of the franchise under one of these two quarterbacks. And i think i think what we've been talking about a long time and the question marks there nut. Those question marks were not erased by this preseason. I'm committed the mason or Haskins is a series next franchise quarterback. But i'll be honest cam. Newton has seen his days. I i still think he can produce in the nfl. But if i think the only reason why should even consider that if you're like oh my goodness can still a so much better than mason. Rudolph and dwayne haskins you. Watch him play for sure. I mean there are times gene. And look this guys. Even the dwayne haskins struggled with washington. So let's come down on the cam newton in pittsburgh calm down until he's another team. I was getting excited about dwayne haskins for the first couple of games but then when he had that chance to start he really dropped an egg and my hopes were dashed. I was like oh. that's right. He played for state of course paul in his ohio state. Well quinn yours. Who's gonna be. Ohio states backup quarterback to share with the Nimitz light missing is starting college football. He signed a one point. Four million dollar deal with autograph company. So i think when you're probably making more as a backup free safety and when asked will for what happens is making a little bit more money for the steelers but still will. What will we live in. When you're back abbasi quebec's make one point four million. Well now. This is not going to have an nfl career. The ohio state is really no company in here with your truth in your facts. I'll be honest with you. i mean you know. I think you'll love cam. Newton mason off into. It's the same category i mean. They're possibly viable backup. Quarterbacks i think you're next franchise quarterback sears near the hope for is coming in a free agency. You maybe like aaron rodgers is available sometime next year And i'm aaron rodgers. Pittsburgh is something. That's doable for money or other standpoints or on the other hand yeah it's gonna come from the draft and hopefully the steelers have a late ratpac. We don't want to hide the draft pick next year but you know aboard the kenny pickett train. Yeah i think it's come. It's going to come from a draft or somewhere else. Let's get back to to get to the next Eight minutes here number to our podcast without pat firmness are the new rookie tight end for the steelers and look sample size. But you know. He caught two touchdown from big ben and What people are saying. Hey he may be tighten one now if not title one. Now he's gone. Overtake hebron air keyboard sometime during the season. I'm looking forward to firm. I honestly. I didn't watch that much ten state in college. I didn't know too much about him. But he's looked impressive and train him on. Paul will start to feel a big plus for fryer mood is he can catch the football and he does that very well especially in the end zone so that that puts leaps and bounds. Ahead of vedran. So yeah he looked fantastic in the preseason. I love. I saw. And i know he's a rookie. But i'm i'm all in for him i would say Give them the number one spot. 'cause again he can catch the football. The best sign that you have is that he immediately had a connection with. Ben rothlisberger You know ben's just one of those guys who can find certain people when he has that connection he's able to find the guys that he needs and then he has those sort of like a safety blanket guys and so if he can find a open for our mussa guy who is going to catch that ball and so having that confidence in him to be able to jump off a he's able to find him he knows when he throws it. It's going to be there I think that just speaks volumes. And i think it won't be long if it's not on gamed the you know the first week of the in the first game it's going to be just a couple of weeks down the road and we'll be talking about him as tight end one for sure. Am ben sorry. Dropped heath miller comparison. And you know it's that connection in no in that when i throw the ball. He's gonna find a way to make this happen. That's great stuff. And i've heard mixed reviews on after drafts. On what type of blocker he is but he's looked depressed and look again questions about the sewers offensive line but having tighten that blocks better. I'm eric brown. Hey can catch passes no time but he was never known for its blocking and heath miller you know. Everyone loves him as a receiver. But he wasn't extension of the offense align in he had a good offense aligned with with the steelers they alive. Good guys there. But that's the. She became at six outfits alignment on our running plates in. You know i think dow alone even if the question marks that Fans are seeing on the offense line that can make the offensive line so much better. So i'm encouraged. There's some good things that we're seeing here. Sewage fans with pat farmer. Let's get the number one the whole time clark by him number one. Pick first round. Pick for the steelers in the draft Man this podcast wash your were bemoaning. That struggled to the steelers are rang. Game had We were talking around draft time going. Hopefully we get one of these best. Running backs and sewers. Got nudge air san. I thought they played not j. A little bit too much in the preseason in my opinion but you got to see a good sample size of notching. I think not j. some the uncertainty Lines actually slow not j. down I sold some runs. Were he really had to struggle to get those couple actually yards in arizona lodging because the offensive line by a like his attitude. I he'll nice long reception against the lions. I liked that. I'm seeing some good suffering not to harass. I'ma worke year for him but i'm feeling a lot better than the running game that did the sign of last year so yeah now december one. I'm bees who we thought he was. Alexis parkinson the preseason all your thoughts. Yeah he's It's been beautiful to watch him. You mentioned he works hard to get those couple yards. But i think that's the key that he does get those couple yards. Felt like with james connor. You just kind of run into the line and then stop but he actually make something happen. He gets positive yards. I actually feel good for the first time since its peak feeling good about when we give the baltimore running back When the offense has that other dimension of not just two yard dump passes. Now i did get. My heart stopped when ben through that high pass to up for it. And i thought for sure he was gonna get sandwiched and for the year but yeah he. He looks fantastic. I'm really excited to see how this plays out for him. Yeah definitely joe. I mean we talked a little bit last week in our power. Five about The running backs for the steelers. Historically who have carried so much work load they shortened their careers. And so that's always going to be a concern for our steelers running backs because Because we're worried about wearing them out And i know that that played into a little bit of labiancas mindset when he got later into his his his tenure with the steelers and wanted to sit out but what i love the most about watching nausea in a preseason set of opportunities he came to play and wasn't squeamish going up for that pass in the in the middle of preseason and wasn't squeamish about those extra yards just here to play ball and that's what i want out of the steelers running game and i'm excited to see him be apart of everything because when we have a solid running game than i think all of steeler nation is going to be happy with everything that happens offensively with our team. Yeah i gotta call us. Sportsmen new men point to football game nadia here sky reading of seventy seven come on najjar should be. And i don't know hopefully man's maybe trying to spark a fire under not jay i. I haven't seen tweets not his mad ring but what's improve bit come on come on yard games and let's get that ring up a little bit you know what's taking their dead ben snow a couple points behind him. Come on if four. Louise from jay come on here so but they just want to underrate. Everybody who's on the pittsburgh steelers. I think and believe me. If we have more time we could talk about minka and teaches rating. Very low to sounds rating was low to in thanks. You check out the pittsburgh silver car half hour. We'll we'll talk after podcasts. About more bad checks. I each week on behind the curtain dot com. I gotta give a little plug. There's a big survivor contest. Going on behind sewer dot com. You could win a joe. D- signed footballs. Check it out as thanks for. Check out your show. I have a great night everybody.

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AyeNeon, The Infamous Juice

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AyeNeon, The Infamous Juice

"Hey everybody it's good to see you all again. This segment is just to canada by you. Guys know what is going on episode. So in this episode there is a situation Towards the end or anywhere episode. There is a blank the me. There's no sound coming in the episode and you might think is your fault. That is my fault. You blame me. Say it was my fault. Because that is editing problem. And that's because of recording in the recording for that. I use it if that happens to be in the in the episode events in it. Where you need to do is just disregarded. Don't worry about it. Considerate like that rig. Considering like a break considerate like we're taking a five minute break. Ferret like that so we now no need to worry makes you guys enjoy episode enjoy. What's in it and y'all have a good one and enjoy really. Enjoy it and half fun. Please disregard the blanks america. The brakes guys enjoys episode. Thank you guys. Were understanding every cooperation. Okay good in the here. Hey body for the violence the beginning but get to see you all again. And i'm going to be a good one. This is a neon and he. He's a adult artist. And i'm so tired from the beyond his will. The neo was going on a neom for taking to do this solitaire to meet you. Yeah awesome so why. Don't you get on rundown budgets because a lot of us have no idea the you are get a little run now again. My name is a neon. I'm recording artists from originally fraud. Chester new york. On the las vegas right now. So you know of anyone trying to. I'm in vegas to say no. That's useful to anybody but on yet I'm a pianist guitarist. basically multi instrumentalist. I can i produce. I add an executive producer I run a label in collective called infamous juice Right now we have four artists. Were planning to get more. Though as four. Including i'm a hip hop indie industrial artist. I would say very experimental Inspiration for you like earl sweatshirt on konya odd future like that Definitely mac miller on a lot of those kinda people so yeah. That's just a little bit about me before we start. Oh that's that's really insane. Well i'm just really just blown away by what you said what's going on in your life. Your life story musical. I can see yeah amazing. Okay saw firstly. I want to start off by getting to know you as a musician so i wanna kind of start up at the very beginning of music career so How did the journey with music star for you. I've been producing for over four years now. I had started experimenting with etiam in the beginning. Because i really enjoyed idiom 'cause me and my mom really do enjoy. Adm together on weight. Both listen a similar artists like said relics and things like that. So i started getting idiom Making little adm khanna instrumentals. And i've i was listening to jake whole at the time a lot on the like jayco for years So i said started. You know putting samples and things in you getting drums together starting to make a little bit more hip than as just i kept going. Throughout the years it started to progress into even more experimental sound. At least were you know. I have today. What really got me to start actually wrapping on my just like producing was definitely tyler. The creator tyler really inspired me to start wrapping kind of weird how that plays out because usually tyler with his like insane instrumentals and things like that will probably influence somebody to produce more than rap foot on. Yeah i just been listening. Started to listen more. I've enlisted tyler. Since two thousand eleven. Since a young age because i heard yonkers not just twelve. Her yonkers a year after came out. When i was very young. I really love that song. And it wasn't until years later that i got right back in the tyler tyler. Influence me to You know start wrapping things like that so Over a year ago. I in over a year ago. December twenty nineteen. I had november twenty nineteen. At all. I ever quote unquote song. It was a distract to person that i've been with for years very stupid. Song is roots for fun at the end of the day. But on yeah that influenced me to take it more seriously than sooner or later. I released my first album or mix tape i would say on. Seven is more me just experimenting at the time and then later as guide into released off the earth which is one of my favorite projects that have done yet and I'm working on a another project which should turn out. Be my biggest and it's really something so i can only to release it awfully congratulate new project by the way exciting. Wow you have such an exciting life. I'm so jealous right now. Stupid but anything for mine with that So i wanna kind of follow up on this So what was what was giving butler's trail playing the major decided to music. Excuse me what repeat I'm cut out my. I was saying point. Shit i hit when i do I was saying what was the trigger point that made you decide the into music. Basically this apart from being it's fire by idiom dislike. I've always liked music and it's always been the side thing and i really just started. Take seriously 'cause. I used to be youtuber at the time at uploaded youtube videos than i edited all that stuff but and i occasionally i post to be on my channel and i really started getting into it at the now not used to anymore. I don't do this stuff on the fool musician so i've got you and so interesting. How a lot of of that happened to you. you're rabbis. But have the label how to start the label by the way on infamous juice will. It's more of a collective than a label. I say lay will just because that's what were labeled under when we release but it's more of collective so really started when me and the co founder jarod evans. We were End i'd said i'd said something. I said that. I want to start something in the few start somewhat me in. He agreed and then we were advanced. Brainstorm at names than i said infamous juice and that was inspired by the juice role that had died at the time it was like a month or two after the passed away at the time down and out i was really inspired by juice world not musically inspired by just use for does person so she's like got named after deuce world so like infamous juice and the where infamous comes from infamous comes from basically everyone in side of the collective is infamous now infamous is a very kind of derogatory term in that can mean like bad and good but like so infamous. That remember you make a stand and make a mark in history. that's why infamous now that market history can be bad or good like work planning to be good. so that's why we're influence violence. That you on infamous in the public eye because a lot of people. A lot of people like our personality everyone here. A lot of people think that weird indifferent for going off in an experimental way at the end. We're just gonna come up on top. So that's where infamous comes from. That's juice comes from put together. You got infamous use. It's really touching to see how all that came in. Even the name sounds main. While i'm sorry i'm just really to shock. A lot of you think there are a lot some that kinda came up with matt actually matt matrix of matthew. He actually brought that up and he said like 'cause. I had made the logo. The logo Brought it up. He was like i hope. People don't think we're copying lyrical lemonade. 'cause i mean you know juice and then cup's the logo and then you know lemonade. And then they got like a lemon box logo. So just clarification. We're not copying lyrical emanates. So i wanna hear that commodity by his mouth. But on yeah. I'll have now that. I hope got onto that but i must be amazing how you put a whole group together and on. I heard you're also looking for artists. If artists were to join with thing to do just do be a good person and make good music. We don't let anybody in you have to actually make. That is very hard to find nowadays. That people that actually can make good music. Well-mixed well produced while arrange well thought out. You can't be you can't just take tight beat from youtube in some vocals on your iphone day. No don't take that are on Okay popularity after. Because i got a few of happy to join the group and a few others that would love to. Yeah yeah definitely find you elissa later. If you called how to get your start as an instrumentalist how outstart. That's i like the base. The base my favorite instrument so started to pick up on the base the base. After i got my piano i got my in nineteen and headed for over a year now and i had just gotten base in my guitar back in september. Twenty twenty so long. So yes so i have had my pianists. December twenty nineteen gum guitars. September twenty twenty so yes so started with the piano. I'm pretty decent at the piano of still learning the bass guitar. But it's good to start with these instruments so again you know pave a road in the future so i since i have them i can start practicing and be better call for the silence my mic was off my but i had everything while so i guess would be the base is that right is the base. That's after favorite. Yeah wow okay okay. So how long have you been playing. The base for is a. It was for like ten years. Something like i said plans since september. Twenty twenty so. Yeah okay okay. That's called cold and they like to use the basing your music whenever you make it or yeah actually my actually my than i chopped in. I'll march actually. The baseline is actually from my base. I did play the baseline that track. It is pretty sick of whole cloud. Deathly check take some of that out. I i'll listen to some of your some of your stuff. But i'm gonna take more of an later. That's pretty amazing and As allow these and shit. I forgot the Got this one the other one but on what happened. If you're not a musician what happened. I probably still be doing youtube. Renner onset you have very good love for you to but you know you to started to deteriorate. Youtube started to you know go bad. So she's like almansa just done. I was making music and posting videos. Time but i just sit at the point. Youtube is not what it used to be so it is not broadcast yourself anymore. It's now company that wants to be like television. So i don't not on youtube anymore all my musics on youtube obviously but I don't think youtube videos any more about that anymore. So okay i definitely get you until they gave it to me by the. I had no idea that. Youtube was like that. The thing. I only make little videos right banks. Okay okay. this is my favorites Do you have any drink. Labs she wanted to chain gets a mek. he's not here anymore but From mac tyler. The creator earl sweatshirt and kanye. I would say it's pretty how to consume right now for media things like that so definitely some vocals from quota but yeah. I guess that's three i pay. You said my main once the first one you said i gotcha later per already sides later. Have you ever gone through a block. And i know what they say but i might. You have ever been derided as block it. Have you ever gone through one. Yes all the time very I'm not going to save writings hard. It's really not it's basic writing poetry desert then. Why not the discredit anyone. That's very serious. lyricist just sat. You know anybody can write with enough dedicated time but i would say writer's block. Yes because one. I'm trying to devolve into certain topic. It's it's it's very It's very troubling. Trying to find the right words. That could best describe what i'm trying to talk about. Okay okay gotcha and how you overcome writer's block. What's your method getting out of that. Getting up going to do something else. Take a mind of music. Okay that's a very common one because the new. Yeah yeah i mean it's common but it works though you know you get up in you. You do something else. You refresh your brain so you could come back with a new kind of thing. You're not just focused. You're not still on music thinking about different things in that can get your brain works. It's common but we're still. Oh yeah. I definitely agree one hundred percent. Okay cool and i wanna get into your music. Because i want to know from mike mike mike perspective ninety one else has music is still object trance. So they really are amazing. And i'll get into your music way. You are with music. So how do you exactly write a song. I think i read a saw very profound lay. I'd rather not spill. How i write a song if you and i'm trying to if you what i mean on but if i had to put yourself in a certain environment and whether that be going outside or doing sedan that this related to what you're even trying to kinda corporate a song that's all i got to say about that am not saying specifically going into the process. Co definitely respect your privacy with that. Yeah definitely get you. And and this is a follow up his apollo point. How would you describe your music Like i said. In the beginning. I did cover a lot in the beginning Experimental industrial and maybe wondering why industrial if this if this interview of this comes out before what i'm working on comes out probably much sense but telling you what. I'm about to release very industrious. Very experimental and very revolutionary opinion. Doing different things on here. A lot of distortion is a lot of Interesting things that come into play here a lot of genre bending allot genre bending on this so yeah but for what i have outer jazzy. Very very court recording. You know Very smooth i feel like big dark to do. Have a lot of dark stinks but on ooh of yami scare for a minute when you said you got me scared league but Nashville little insight. Now your little special things coming He's special things coming and if he minutes. But i'm doesn't opinion Opinion i was going to say anything about me. I know that you did this. You did with hawk line for day. I think i wash her. Maybe now And that was nice but is anything like me before we get to your special thing. Everyone's waiting for Is there anything else you would like to tell the audience about you or your music anything that you need to tell them about you or your music. Anything that i left out asking now. Not everyone's gonna like my music. I realized that. Not everyone's gonna like music and that's okay. My music is very. I feel like a very calm very developed kind of taste. You feel like any anybody that has a really good care for music can go into mind and actually appreciate what. I'm trying to do so until i got say about that healthcare. Okay thanks for that man. I bill insight. Anything is anything else you would like to add anything that you feel like the audience should now about you or your music. No not really not that we already went over. Basically all the questions. I actually think that should now then pretty much ankle i so. I don't know if hawk like did this bomb. Basically everybody that comes from the podcast has a tradition where everybody showcases their music insincere a rapper rappers will have the ability to wrap it up. Yeah you're not getting out of doing it so way. So what exactly do you want me to do. So you mentioned you. Do not wanna free you community do favors from us. Although exist are you can do a teaser. From verse a teaser. Verse up a song. That has That's coming later. Listen bro i ain't doing no seizes. I'm not like that. i don't do no civis. None of that have not liked it. A lot of artists snippet on stuff do. I'm not for not for. I rather like our other people like to listen to my stuff. And actually here's something that haven't ever heard but on if i do have to wrap something that i've previously made sure wasn't gonna freestyle because i don't have really anything prepared for free all but i guess i'll wrap something that already made so If i have to go after pig certain song on our And i'll be up at two a like a goddamn ready to ascend. I'm too good to follow all these transit down. You're going to make your ms integrated in life being. I call him young. Mikey he sean too. Bright to see look out. This is my decree. So let's see. China rabbo some mills. I don't talk about him. But let's see that's why believable possibly all comparably a dead cop demy spirit autocratic free. I'm not cala. But i think i'm a major key. Some light to some light. okay okay. That was really good. That was very medalla. I noticed it was very madelli. But that was rarely. That was nice. Thank you. I don't get why people are knocked joining a group nor do i see you in any A lot of collapse really did was nice. That was nice. And i'm so I've got to access earlier. But what's next for you beside the all. The things you said is anything else. That's come inc or all you said earlier was what's coming Let it have very interesting collapse coming. That people may be surprised about. Because it's something i've never done before in something that i thought i would do for a long time but i'm gonna do it so yeah just look forward to that. I guess all sweet. I'm excited unexciting. I may i mean getting happy ending and saying because msi for them. I just want to say to mike deep within my heart to stay thank you. I know some people. Just stay things. Like or whatever. But i'm i just went did these things Say thanks when i heard hawk like does independent artists. I didn't think you'd want to this lung anything you wanted to. I'm so glad that you did. Yeah you're here. It must have out there like talking to different people. It's fun thank you. And i hope you have fun talking to me. I know you're used to hawk life from all hit but i love. Yeah one interview with fog though. It's not really usa. Hawk like only one interview but yeah definitely looking forward to doing a lot more interviews. I should be getting on another podcast soon. Ray looking forward to that one to look forward to that one looking forward to the next one trying. I'm starting to get out there more. Like it out there as good and this opinion is not to calm controversy but Which one did you like better me. Hawk live soy you like us both equally equally. I don't play favors explained. Thanks okay but if you did have to can just now. None of that was getting down will not answer any must be before we causing a controversy. Okay so This is the part. I like about where listening credits. This is your time to shot. Anyone drafted any shutdowns any last words. Any of ice advice earlier. But i'm saying Anymore we like to give just on sugar own. Sure shot my gun. Matrix for infamous. You shut up stripe shutout javed's shoutout on shutout anarchist lover not gives us my guy. Anarchist has got some new stuff coming soon lunch. You guys were whoever's watching the set knows who i am news infamous use our. Don't you worry on anarchists. He's coming soon. Always been on hiatus but going through it but he's gossip stuff coming soon. It's gonna come back in the ever all thought to myself. 'cause i gotta give myself credit putting all this together and showed out anybody. I know met of flame. That's really offer now. Okay cole cole. Thank you for those And again thank you and enjoy this. 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EPISODE #709 "Making The Case!" The Radio Adventures of Dr. Floyd

The Radio Adventures of Dr. Floyd

09:35 min | 4 months ago

EPISODE #709 "Making The Case!" The Radio Adventures of Dr. Floyd

"It's time once again for america's favorite show the radio adventures of dr fluid brought to you floyd dot com featuring special guest. Dr stan freberg as sherlock holmes in our last episode dart off lloyd. Dr steam had just made another literature. Jump we knew that. Dr steve had landed in front of the office of sherlock holmes but we had no idea what are deployed had wound up. That is until now as there was a brilliant flash of light and we see i hero come crashing down into the middle of a small but well furnished consultation room in london england. Oh boy we're attorney's name i know. Where's dr steve. He took his own merimee readies. We made literature jump. I thought he said he was gonna do coming consultation. Room moments and they're on the threshold stands a man well over six feet tall and so thin. He appears considerably taller his eyes. I shop and piercing and he has a thin hawk. Line knows and as square jaw. He quickly looks around the room and dentists closing the door behind him. Are your loan watson luncheon. Have you any objection to my closing. You're shudders watson. no go ahead closure as the man is his way around the room. Flinging the shutters together. Dr floyd ponders curiously on the name. He's been called if he is watson and this is a piece of classic literature then this man could only be sherlock holmes. You were expecting maybe basil rathbone. Never mind you are no doubt wondering why i'm here. I assume it's because you have a new case. Why yes i do. How nice huge. Notice very stylish. Don't you think matches my cloak. No no i mean you have a new mystery to solve all right watson. Have you ever heard of professor moriarty. Wasn't he a mathematics professor. That's him well after an extensive investigation. I've come to realize that it is he who has been behind all the recent crimes and london masterminding numerous acts of evil. Like some sort of of evil mastermind. Precisely moriarty is the napoleon of crime. You any plans to invade russia. No no no watson. It was just a figure of speech. Oh right sherry anyway. I have just put a plan into action that will and a mere three days. Time exposed marietta's misdeeds to all of london and intern get him arrested. Oh bravo homes jolly good show. Yes it was quite clever me wasn't it but you see watson as clever as mike cleverness was moriarty was clever enough to discover my cleverness levers. So imagine my surprise when this very morning he showed up at two twenty one b baker street. He get what did he look like. Well is extremely tall and thin. His shoulders or rounded and he's to is are deeply sunken into his head. Does he have pale skin and greasy black hair. Yes he does watson. How did you know. Just playing a hunch. Well the moment he entered the room he appeared at me with great. Curiosity then smiled at me and said you don't know me do you. Don't know me do you on the contrary. I know exactly who you are. Well then if you know who. I am then you know why. I'm here oh. I know why you're here and you know i know why are here with it if you know that. I know that you know why i'm here. Then you must know that. I know that you know that. I know that you know why i'm here. Yes i know look. I didn't come here. a weedy bent. I'm sorry you're being woody. What look. I came here to tell you that. I'm quite sure. A smart man like yourself could see that if you think you're smart enough to bring destruction up on me i. I'm smart enough to do the same to you. You are paid me. Several compliments mr moriarty. Let me pay you on in return. When i say that a man smart enough to see how smart i am is surely smart enough to know that i'm smart enough to outsmart one as smart as you. You think you're so smart don't you I get by. But you haven't seen the last of me sherlock holmes that he left my office dear me. You can see the great danger. I am in watson. is this reason. I'm wondering if you'll come away with me to switzerland until three days have passed and moriarty is in custody of course homes. You can count on me to help you with this case. Oh no need watson you see. It's got a pet at handle and a detachable shoulder strap not dead case the moriarty case right. I'll meet you at the station in an hour. Just wish i knew what sherlock holmes story this was sir arthur conan. Doyle wrote so many of them. It's hard to keep street. And as talk to floyd hurriedly prepares to leave. We must take a leave of this episode. Will sherlock holmes be able to outsmart professor moriarty. Who's obviously being portrayed by dr steve and this version of the story all dr. Steve gained the up a hand in this battle of good versus evil and in what capacity. We'll dr floyd helped sherlock holmes with this case. I don't need any help with this case doesn't rowley wheels on it. You see not that case that oh never mind. Find out next time on the radio. Adventures duct flowing episode number seven. Oh nine of the radio. Adventures of dr floyd starred stan freberg cash sherlock holmes stan freberg history of the united states of america volumes. One and two are highly recommended by everyone here at the radio. Adventures of dr floyd using for this episode by jodi white sides. Www dot jody white sides dot com. This episode was written by grant. But choko and based on the stories of sherlock holmes by sir arthur conan. Doyle leave us a voicemail and area code eight one eight three three two three zero five three visit the radio adventures of dr floyd merchandise store at www dot dr floyd dot com slash store. This episode was recorded. At dr floyd studios in beautiful downtown burbank. California episode number seven. Oh nine of the radio. Adventures of dr floyd is copyright. Two thousand eight dr floyd industries. All rights reserved. Hey radio adventures of dr floyd fans. One look cool for back to school. 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ALMIGHTY ES EL KANYE WEST LATINO | #Podcast

Frequencia Urbana Podcast

21:33 min | 1 year ago

ALMIGHTY ES EL KANYE WEST LATINO | #Podcast

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Miradas a travs de una cmara 409  Elvas, la llave de Portugal

Podcast RadioViajera

25:14 min | 2 years ago

Miradas a travs de una cmara 409 Elvas, la llave de Portugal

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The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

The BBQ Central Show

21:53 min | 2 years ago

The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

"Choice older shows for the first time in years but by Peirce moments of the barbecues central show in ten minutes or less he's just what you need this is the best moments of the barbecues central show in ten minutes or less ever wish you could listen to your favorite interview or segments do you on let's get to it here's Greg Job Eland from October twentieth two thousand ten it was about the step up and head over to Jack for the first time second segment today great guest teddy reader my favorite hotbeds of competition barbecue so let's go ahead and race over to the phone punch-up headmaster of Barbecue Crew Job KCBS contest yet that fall and kind of took off from there created an animal and a growing from there we cook sixteen content last year and this weekend will be is that is today's show comes from October twenty two thousand and ten I up pitmasters tippy canoe barbecue crew Joe Beland is in jail Zhiyong was was tippy canoe and we can all their version of a fifty canoe or tippy or something along those lines so tippecanoe my my daughter so if you see US along the contest trail right my first guest tonight is heading down to the Jack Daniels World Championship Barbecue Cook off literally where he will be giving it go for the very first time this coming weekend they are currently ranked twelfth overall for the KCBS points races year hails from state that is quickly becoming known as one of the newest my favorite my favorite Canadian but he's just one of my favorites period he's GonNa talk a little cold weather grilling a little halloween sounds like he's going to Mexico Astor Joe I'm always fascinated by team names where does tippecanoe barbecue crew stem from when we first started this struggle didn't get right at it as I had mentioned there in the open you're headed down to Jack Daniels but frappes for the people that might not be as intimately familiar with you guys as some of the other guys on the competition ABC circuit where's the background and how you get in this whole competition barbecue scene Joe Okay we're we're actually sitting at a truck stop in Nashville so whereabouts we're we're taking a family vacation my sister lives in California we're in North Central Iowa my sister lives out in Los Angeles and we decided that we we go backward smokers that's the first real smoker I had after experimenting with with some of the menards and Walmart Brands was a backwoods party and we stuck with something else to do so random town bought a smoker and that's kind of where it all started cooking for friends and family and they had a lot eight a lot of mediocre barbecue the Jack Be the last of our events this year and it'll be number twenty one I believe for two thousand ten so decent amount this year we're talking with job tippecanoe barbecue pit crew joining us here on the Barbecue Radio Show Joe's a team who has been having a very good years you guys have your what's your mindset for the Jack Daniels you cook it years ago we friends campers so we had to follow along with that bought camper in about one day of sitting around the camp site I decided you know what I can't do this much longer put up with name and and I wanted to do something a little different and our oldest daughter and and nobody remembers this story but her nickname for a long time when she was a which is I don't really do a great job for job eland is my guest joe how did you guys actually qualify for the Jack this year along the way and I thought we got pretty good at it so we ended the backyard competition in the fall two thousand eight and cook living stopping in Salt Lake City and cooked this contest and I did do more research figured out it was the only State Championship down to in Utah in two thousand ten unlike you would normally on any given weekend or do you change it up because of how diverse the judging tents pallets are going to be while we're GONNA take I haven't looked at it KCBS website and saw there was an event in near Salt Lake City Utah on the weekend we'd be coming home and look at the map and it was sixty miles out of the way to if I think three times out of our last sixteen events so we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA we're GonNa Cook what brought it and see how that brings us obviously the one difference would be the here and and do the the great American family road trip a lot of kids and then had across the country and and what time I wife got that plan for the week and we took our time off work I I've got a backwoods party I cook chicken and we're cooking the three other meets on a backwoods fat boy with with Guru so well to Cook I love to about an hour outbound wrote about twelve hours so ben I've been a long day but drifting we're ready to get rolling we've we started cooking seventy so you're going to go with the white meat breast anything that you're going to do special strategy wise to keep it as moist as possible for the judges to sample regularly saying okay we do well here you've got to enter a a real competition if we do well so we we won that competition it back they're not petition and we enter so it was going to be an automatic to the Jack couldn't pass up the opportunity put a couple of posts out on the barbecue brethren and about eighteen hours later the white meat chicken now I don't normally cook white meat chicken so we're GONNA do we're a new breast boneless skinless breast and set him up and and see how that goes but joy her from a lot of teams that go down for the first time that it's very easy to get caught up in a lot of the goings on down there in Lynchburg which can lead your schedule getting compromised when it comes to the prep-work have you made any special plans to guard against that one that one of the things that and we're GONNA we're gonNA pull fairly early slice it up keep it together on the boxes the plan so we can you know keep as much heat into the original of the Jack Daniels World Championship Barbecue Cook off which one aside from I mean which one aside from both do you think is best to get as the win in your career as you do this whole competition cooking thing the invitational or the Jack Daniels I think okay about but we're GonNa do there in fact I've threatened a couple of times over the last month just throw a little white meat and some of our boxes we've been braxton competition so joe there seems to be that recurring conversation among some pitmasters as to what event they would rather win during the course of a calendar year or perhaps even during their barbecue career the American William I'm not typically that would that would be the pretty teenager walking around with you go joe what are you going on right now I work on backwards we'll be all the granddaddy that's the one it's hard to get into in my opinion it's the most prestigious whether it should be or not I guess it's up for discussion but in close to nineteen people come and go throughout the weekend so I'm GonNa let them do a lot of that stuff and that's kind of been my plan kind of what I'm what what I've gotten more h this year so I'll grant all in the Midwest but we did smoke on the water in little rock the spring and and kind of our stuff to down air and other than that new teams are this year and I think that'll be something that everybody's GonNa have to keep in mind Joe Beland of tippecanoe barbecue crew joining us here on the barbeque central radio show word of it and I'm going to try to focus on cooking while having a fun time and picking it all at the same time but I think you're right that'd be a balance a lot each of everybody I've talked to and we're GonNa Cook what got us here and we've we've been on quite a run for five contests since June I finished out of the top five line is I'm going to get up early Friday and prep like normally do like get to the contest early anyway so obviously we'll be there we're GONNA get early get depressed social media platform it is slash BBQ central show on facebook at BBQ central show over on instagram and twitter feeling Joe how are you tonight Greg how are you I'm doing great thanks for asking Joe got a lot of things to cover here during the segments let's go then I needed stopped it on the way home from vacation on borrowed equipment and Was Fortunate to come out of there with a win awesome jobe win of tippecanoe barbecue good how you doing Greg I'm doing excellent Ted how are things in the windy city of Chicago I'm in Chicago and sitting in a restaurant with a good very much appreciate the follow that said let's get right to teddy reader and Greg Grumpy from October twentieth it just seems like a nice guy doesn't he hey before we get to the second segment GonNa ask you a favor subscribe to the barbecue central show on your favorite I like my good friends in the world of Barbecue that's right okay Ted a couple of things that we wanted to talk about here tonight before we cut you loose to go to dinner is that's quite a bit and and I think I've got a system down we're we're going to Brian it to make sure we get some moisture in and some flavor in it gory wrecked we pretty well there so I think we're going to stick with what we got Joe Bill and joining us kind of tailed nicely into the white meat question that I had for you I think it is right now and that's the one that's on the on my radar you know we were we were reserve a grand champs two weeks ago in the in the so I can partake in some of this stuff Friday afternoon but for the most part I'm Gonna I'm GonNa let something so my guess do some of those extra activities and enjoy that contact John Solberg via email and John J. O. N. at the BBQ Central Show Dot com what a Nice Guy Jobe Wendy's I'm being completely ignorant and we'll make fun of them later any tips on how to properly shut it down until maybe the spring next year well actually WanNa make fun of them we never if you're a die hard barbecued lover you don't shut them down if you do want to shut them down the first thing you gotTa do you gotTa clean them in I think that the barbecue and grilling season has come to an end and they're actually looking to shut down and store the grills barbecue so for those people that want to do that inside remind Bradley and we were eating at a restaurant called Ria and just getting ready to sit down and have some dinner so I'm pretty oh I'd give a lot of thought about changing stuff up and and we're just we're not abuse we cook in a pretty diverse area we cooked in seventy we're looking at quite frankly we're gonNA WE'RE GONNA make your safety make sure it's done but at the same time I've been chicken I'm very tired of eating it a grilled steak or some smoked pork shoulder some smoke ribs or brisket that's been smoked for twenty four hours in the winter I mean barbecue is a passionate and happy camp complained for Wednesday night when nothing says getting ready for a great dinner like taking time out to contribute to the barbary central radio right backyard that keeps the snow off of my grills smokers so that it makes it just a little bit easier for me over the over the season to get heading into winter season here over the next four five six months depending on where you're at a cold weather grilling and barbecue tips and I believe you just mentioned one with layering of the force for those of us that are out there that actually experience the thermal changes during the course of the year we have these things called seasons and a lot of people gloves put on a couple layers of clothing and get out your backyard and fired up that's what it's all about there is no shutting down annoying and wow that felt great and that was that was quite an accomplishment internally our biggest big accomplishment as a barbecue team is possible and we've done that a lot of practicing with a chicken breast and throwing them into blocks and living sit on the counter for fifteen minutes and then dive in and eat and and I feel I feel some pretty cold winters in the in the city Toronto I actually chant my backyard I put a five hundred square foot tent over party during cook and I just want to keep the snow off because the snow becomes a big deterrent you see everything covered in snow you don't want to deal with it so I put up a tent got my draft bridge I got a flat screen. TV and a DVD player. I've got everything that need to be there to make my life nice and in my garage which is right up the back of my patio where all my grills and smokers are any my garage I gotta catch up my beer that's what you gotta do but the bottom line is it's a lot easier to keep them fired up and get out there put some long johns on where to get some up and enjoy it ted reader joining us here on the show Ted so that kind of dovetails nicely into the next question which is for those of us that actually do it year round and are going to be world at barbecue we are tree sixty five twenty four seven every day in and out fired up get it hot smoker thousand ten over the Hawk line welcome in from the windy city five here ted Reader said are you buddy when you're gonNa Cook Things you want to be organized when you're cooking in the winter keeping yourself Nathan simple is the most important thing get it done smoker grill indoors dangerous your kill yourself carbon monoxide has been known to kill people I've heard yeah it's one of those things just got to stay away from fast and keep yourself warm also propane heaters electric heaters in your garage we'll keep you nice and warm but never ever ever ever clothing as route there but what are some other things we WANNA keep in mind as the colder weather approaches well for what I do because I'm based out of Toronto Ontario Canada and we inside no clean and write down cover them up tie kite keep them dry keep the moisture in the humidity out of those grills and smokers it's at Elaine's level temperature and I'm not dealing with the cold and then when I put it in my charcoal chimneys I get a nice fire burning mason quicken hot and then now what do you have do you or are the things in specific that one would need to keep in mind especially not so much with the propane but with charcoal and colder weather all which will take a lot longer to get temperature and burn so I keep my charcoal actually I move my charcoal into my basement where it's as nights now I don't believe in Margaritas I believe in just straight shot kilo because it goes straight through the system and get your feeling good now we do candy one thing is making sure that your charcoal stays dry you don't want to have any humidity or moisture getting into that charcoal this weekend would with certain hit her office memories I think just for the from the web in a play out in my mind anyway to put in your request for a future show please maybe not intentionally we're GONNA going on I'm GonNa have half of the town of CNN's garage with me I'm GonNa have to if nothing else loves the largest Cheering section we're going to have some and I don't have to deal with the snow I go out there at any time I put some heaters in my tents on propane heaters so that keeps me a little bit warmer but I guess Mrs website you can check out all the products that he has to offer and then there are quite a bit of products out there so be sure to check that website out Ted we have Halloween coming up here in bill and I'm going to dive in and that avocados going to be moist in premium hot ingests sleet and I tell you avocado as an aphrodisiac flee week and a half time any particular recipes that you've fancy for this particular time to do they even have Halloween up candidate for crying out loud oh yeah we have meanwhile in Mexico one it will be Tequila night we're going to put aside my favorite friend called Jack Daniels who I truly truly love and believe me Louis but actually this I'm going to be in Mexico so we're going to talk a little bit about what I'm GonNa be doing while I'm sitting on the beach in Playa del Carmen relaxing on the the best beverage on the face of the Earth but I'm gonNA switch it up for the time that I mean imply in Mexico and strictly drink one hundred percent the gob a tequila down a little bit faster but bottom line is keep it dry it's GonNa burn just finding a

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All the Picks before the watch along - 7.7

Bro Bro Bro Bets

16:06 min | 4 months ago

All the Picks before the watch along - 7.7

"Sports spanish oh bac recuperate. Office i am tone digs. That's gonna be the station the beard in the back. We have jay and mitt yellow. Hey tony how you don't and we'd like to welcome you to the hammered down. Halftime show of euro semifinals england. I denmark. I still it from someone on the chat. Thank you from then chat. If you are watching from patch show you do know that pat put a four thousand dollar bed in at minus one fifty but to two thousand dollars bet in. That's right at minus one fifty four england to win ninety minute. Steve one more split their winnings with guppy. I didn't want to get into this one. It was two. I'm still fucking hurting inside from the last one goes down early one. Oh to denmark. Not i mean it was good free-kick not the best fucking free-kick i've ever seen going now. Pick for it's got to get a hand on half too. But i mean he hasn't let in a goal fucking tournaments england gets one back. Was it an uncle. Yeah but i mean it was not. It wasn't a bad on no. So it's one one currently england and denmark and half boys or buzz and we got fucking ish. We got fucking sancho. I mean bring the boys on. Let's fucking in this thing. One ten for england win ninety minute line plus five fifty for denmark to go through to the next round mice three ten for england plus thirty five or denmark gumby and and a lot of you hopefully are on the hammered down civil from faneuil which was england and italy to move on to the finals boosted from plus one one twenty. Two plus. Two hundred italy went through yesterday. England's got to do it for us today. It's gotta be kidding. It's gotta be caned dude it was always glowing ari pass to be scott to keep running these guys. It'll be like it'll be like the germany game. Just keep keep running. Keep run nick in the ball around. You'll wear them down. They were coming on in the sec in the second half of the first half there it'll happen so i think we're all caught up on the euro's taff time we'll get back to it when the second half starts we've got some time here though so go into some other sports before we lose all of guppies attention to get last night in baseball i was four and three you were three started all through you know and then don don at that and then red sox law so is tough and colorado off. What's three posts three posts in a four minute. Power play leading into overtime and blowing the game. That's tough nikki skate. Who had tampa bay game for just like a law of montreal did not let them close out the series. It's gonna game foy tonight. I believe tampa is minus. One eightyish favorites. If i'm correct on the money line. Correct me if i'm wrong. I believe it was my su fifty but is to eases. There really is no play tonight. Other than the tampa bay puck line or tampa bay and regulation. I'm going to the puck line. Maybe i'll go regulation as well double dad. If you're new to the show puck line is one and a half tampa bay has got to win by more than one and a half in sixty minutes so and i don't even think we can disagree with this one. I think he knows. I think he's accepted that. This is the this is how it ends that montreal. Put up a good fight last game. They should've lost. They blew two leads. Tampa hit three posts. We talked about the the four minute. Power play that tampa just kind of let slip away and you know. The mayor shouldn't said what she said but ultimately she may be right she may be open that case than i shine up lord stanley and bring it back out. Let's go. I mean let's get a game six. come on. here's this. I'll ask you next. Go back to mall real. Believe it jali while tampa bay is an elite level team. I don't know how the islanders took them to seven. I really do the islanders that tim. Good in in my proclamation. Though that i'm going tampa hawk line. There is some value to be had with. Montreal puck line at plus one and a half. I think it was minus one thirty. I believe somewhere around there. I was just looking at. Where are they going to be close. Let's two oh five july. Let me ask you this. Think yep other than the game. There is a close race between vaz's laskey and kucherov minus one thirty five kucherov plus one. Oh five to win the conn. Smythe few like either of those guys. Yeah i mean like both of them. But i think it's gonna be weird because it's it's hard. It's so hard with these two. Because vast leschi he could. I think he's gonna come down tonight. Honestly i think a lot of people's decisions will be made tonight depending on how the game plays out because if vassilis he goes out there and puts on a show and maybe only let's in one or shuts them out even possibly i think it's his but if kucherov goes out and has two or three point night i think he can take it home. It's hard to justify not giving it to the leading score in the playoffs. Yeah which typically how it goes so you know. I don't think you're wrong. If you want to win money. I might take cadre plus money. Just because he's plus money and there's chance yeah if he goes out and has two goals. Yeah it says the take home. I believe but you look at the body of work and we'll vast leschi is done throughout the playoffs. He started every game. He's been there. He's been the rock. You could see how it could go that way. there's an odds boost for stammer to score in the lightning to win. Plus three fifty. I don't hate it. Because i think they'll be much more effective on the powerplay tonight. And that's typically where he does battle. Now that's say sprinkle for sure definitely sprinkle so you potentially tonight mice the one and a half for lightning and all the total jews the way the under so yeah i would probably just go contrary in there and go over just for sake of for gambling But i see a lot of goals see entertaining game and i think i think now after last guy. I don't think it'll be as tight as last game. Do you like i. I was surprised that that's the thing whenever montreal montreal's gone up but they made mistakes last game. Tampa scored montreal dozen. Usually make those mistakes so yeah i would lean that way with you. There were four goals or five last game easily. Giving more with us three posts at tampa. And there's missed opportunities on the power play because it wasn't like the power play was bad. They just not scoring. They were still getting chances. All right so you know if you if you feel in frisky go for the over okay. Sounds good last night. Mba sons cover the honest place eight and goes off booker as good night chris. Paul has a great night. Chris ball is now. Paul was the betting favourite. He's now a larger betting favorite. May you had eight and for the. Mvp his odds went way down. But chris paul at a great night so it doesn't really help you there. You had the. Did you win everything last night. No buddy. i actually had devon booker's over and he missed it by a point and a half and then i had then. I also had chris. Pa system is by half an assist. So but you had you had. You had two sons i. These sons in the over both never doubt never was a doubt never was a good win for you last night. So from finals a series bedding sons are three dollar favorites bucks plus to forty bucks have been terrible game once. We know that sounds have been great games. One like this happened the net series member. Yeah yeah it was really got embarrassed in game. Two any chance were sprinkling on bucks plus two forty. Or we're gonna. I'm gonna wait to see what happens. Game too yeah feels like this is the sun's time blocks plus one and a half for the series plus one sixteen sons minus one and a half months. One forty to that one and a half pretty nice. I think the bucks actually came out and played well. But i don't know they just do stink in game ones in the sun's always come out really hot yet something to look. We'll talk about that more tomorrow Tony i actually do have an added. Mvp that for this finals. I think it's going to be devon booker and this is my actual. Mvp not just a little flyer at plus five fifty is when i got it out this morning. Chris paul's night. It's good odds. People what i worry about is like even if they play the same or if devon booker plays a little bit better it will be crispy chris paul because that's a good point. It's it's voted on by the media and it's the story line and they want chris paul at this long career. They're going to vote for him to be finals. Mvp as my only issue with that but devin booker has two vastly outperform crystal. I do agree. And i understand why it's juice like that for chris. Paul but i just think devon booker is the better player. He plays a bigger role. Gets more points because there's no way he has thirty plus again so he's been he's been on he's been on quite a roll but hey i don't hate that bet obviously but just something to think about I was looking at so nba earlier. Today i had the white sox lance lynn. I was minus one eighteen. Yeah he was actually plus a half minus one seventy. I almost doubled down. Take plus a half and money line. So i took the white sox. I'm i'm on the reds. I haven't even looked dead. Oh boy yeah okay. So i i lost one i to push on the rangers. I went again a win against the ms. But did you gibson i mean gibson is take every time for me on the rangers guys. Unbelievable yes So i'm to be scores right now. Rather down to bottom six to take them full game or did i take them first. Half now i took him four game still alive so i still get a chance i also took. I don't know if i'm putting these. I don't know why i'm doing. I took the red sox going off. Four zero eight yeah. I'm on that as well. Got the red sox minus one thirty haney has been fucking terrible as of late. Iran has found it. Iran has found it. So i got a modest one thirty. I don't know where you got it. But i like the red sox for the minus one twenty. This morning i helped all over the euro gets going usually gets going for a bit. He's very streaky. So his last two twelve innings to earned then haney his last two nine innings twelve earn. So yeah socks on bounce back here. I mean the bogaerts got robbed on a home or to tie it last night. It kind of changes anything else earlier today. White sox yeah besides that i lost on the reds. I'll i yeah and then push on the rangers. They were tied to to. Yes so i hopefully if i can get the reds to come back by then this game. That would be awesome. Johnny gray hasn't been. I mean nothing isn't bad though. That's the thing. I think when you're batting first fis i do this a lot. I'm like oh you had a bad outing. like stroman. had a bad like he gave up two runs in five innings. You know they got shut out. It's on the offense not the pitcher. Let's roll through some of our other baseball bats before we get to the second half year or i can i can also hold on. Let me do this updates some of the score sear in the mlb if you guys who are watching them today so -lanta is up seven three on the pirates parts of one three in a row. Good for them. Sox are up six one in the eighth against twins tigers tied to two in the seventh gibson. Still pitching you had him i five. Which one do i five. Reds are down to. The six brewers are up to one against to grow the garamba corbin berenson's founded again. Yeah they were taking a lot of heat last night. I was watching. Mlb network. they were saying. Why would you push burns up to go against to grow. I'm just take the win in the second game with burns game. But i mean if you can beat the girl home good on you. Yeah burns. I think he hit a little all there for a few games but i he's founded again. It was going to happen over the season. You know what i mean. These pitchers they're gonna have bad game you over under for this game. Because it's double header was four. I was three and a half last night. Seventy three and a half. So it's two one right now. Korn burns still pitching. I assume to grandma's still pigeon in the razor up one on the indians. That's the second game right over. Double header is yeah. Raise one the first one eight one. Yeah so then we got the red sox and angels and then we got the typical night game. Second-half has kicked off. so let's just go through our picks real quick. I got the phillies zack. Willer the line. This line made no fucking sense fifty. It was minus one forty. It opened. it didn't come out too late. It didn't come out to like nine or ten this morning. So zack wheeler it's been an absolute role in the cubs. Like you said are a disaster. Always in manet versus is louis garcia as at houston. I think it took days plus a half here. Yeah i'm on that too. I mean i almost got. Were up six three going into the fifth last night. Bassett gave up a three run shot and astros tied at six. So yeah as plus a half months. One fifteen is where. I got going back to the well tonight with the rockies. I don't like it. i'm doing it fucking sense tayla. he's not bad umberto. Cost janas is not a starter. Got a good. but he's not a starter taking. I can't do this is this is bad idea the rockies on the road which they are fucking horrendous plus a half miles one thirty four not a bad. I recommend anyone else takes saint louis at san francisco. Alex would. I think the line was a little to hire you touch. Now's way too much and the way woods been going. He hasn't been great. I'm not gonna lay minus half and then my last night is. I am taking kukuchi against the yankees kukuchi plus minus one fourteen. I five moneyline. I'm obviously on mr kukuchi once again. Are you taking anything in. That's in padres. no. I don't like i don't love paddock and you're not sure what you're going to get with corbin these days. Yeah okay so for baseball. Those are picks. Like i said saw red sox are starting right. Now we're both on phillies wheeler got as plus half rockies plus a half and mariners money line. Those are all i five you. Yeah i got socks. I five as i five plus a half mariners. I money line and phillies first. Five money line. Second half of euros has kicked off one. One forty seven th minute Come on england is plus one hundred on the ninety minute line denmark plus night or sorry plus six fifty to just go through to just events qualify for the next round england monastery forty denmark plus two fifty five.

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Ep31: Oh No, Its an Etiquette Episode

Rocks Across the Pond

1:30:09 hr | 2 years ago

Ep31: Oh No, Its an Etiquette Episode

"Hey everybody welcome to another episode of rocks across the pond it's a curling podcast in we we have not talked to you for a while it's been a it's been a busy summer your it rocks across the pond and we haven't really had time to to even think about curling by we i mean me will find and out of my co host has had time this summer to think about curling we'll bring him on right now joining me from southampton england are professor of peel dr jonathan havoc off off jonathan how much thought have you given to curling so far this summer well actually see today i got a text message and i have to order my england kit for the world mixed so oh that's a good day it's an exciting day and then i was like i've been drinking into much beer may not fit into that kit if i don't cut back on the beer so that was my extensive amount of thought that i put a curling so it sounds like you're enjoying your summer i'm having a good time yeah zip optima last week durham this week and next week of berlin so get to travel around the place a bit marks rollins and a more eighteen so yeah i saw that southampton is one of the hosts of the cricket world cup have you made it to any cricket world cup games now do you plan on making it to any cricket world cup games no why not man if something if something that big came to the city i lived in richmond virginia somehow hosted some crazy international world cup event like that i'd go oh i guess so i kinda i don't want the truth is i don't understand cricket while enough and then all my english friends who earned a cricket do i didn't want to take a newbie our ruin their enjoyment so so i never i could just go with myself i guess yes you could you'd have no idea what was going on but you probably have a general idea of i mean that's kind of my way when when it winds up on television it's like yeah i have a general idea of what's going on here but they were excited when that one thing happened so apparently that was important it's it's not too far off off baseball but it's different we have a guest we bring our guests on we shared our guest furred cricket he does have a canon of an arm i will i will vouch for that having watched him throw a mini football around finland so do you want to introduce him since you know him much it's the wrong forum is he's actually podcast before making fun of thirty briefly so we've decided to finally warm on after kind of promises from early in this year through the twitter voting that the fans demanded that someone from teams slugged income on the podcasts we've selected felix price so welcome to the podcast felix thank you very much for having jonathan and how's your summer going my summer is going very very well finished cutting off and and then took a holiday to hong kong just to just to leave cutting for bet cutter relax was nice and then just been lounging around the house they'll much today do you in hong kong and all the protests were happening or a managed just missed the protests so how'd a completely protest free week in hong kong which is quite nice all right and so you've been hanging around home and getting ready for your current season and he any progress there yeah the team sucked in team i plan we set up a home gym which we are planning to use frequently i'm the only one to use it yet but but maybe we'll get else along what's in the home for him it's a it's a multi gym so it's like how's how's everything aid made me legs which i think our team need to just a bit more power coming out the hawks yeah 'cause that's clearly lady the problem i'll tell you can't throw it hard at all contra hot yeah we live together or what if i missed here three of us live in the same town so we see each other pretty much every single day but it's harry who lives further away but i'm show because he's just pastas driving test he can he can drive over in and join us on the jim so obviously you guys are a in junior curling team how old are you all now we all between sixteen eighteen so ultra ni- eighteen and joe is seventeen and know-how seventeen as well sorry yeah so to seventeen year olds to eighteen year olds hold you have to be driving england england seventeen yeah you're gonna be seven heck yeah okay it's sixteen here in the states so i would say is low it inappropriate yet stainless yeah at least it was when i was sixteen that's yeah that's for sure it is is a lot harder driving here to say having made the transition it starts with a lot narrower and twisty year every time i go back to north america i'm like like damn it's easy to drive here so yeah so felix we're glad you're on the show in one of the the reasons that we wanted you to come on this particular show is we're talking about etiquette and wanted kinda younger voice on here to talk about etiquette in kind kind of what what's important to you and how you feel it should be introduced to people who are who are starting curling and we'll talk about that here in a bit after we kind of go over some news here at the beginning but it's good because it's good we've got kind of a wide range of ages and and in curling experience experience here i'm thirty five you're obviously a junior curler we've got jonathan jonathan you're like what sixty seven sixty eight now you're retired or something he was lady seventy seven yeah yeah so it's a yeah it's a wide range that we're gonna have i think it's going to be a good discussion here in a bit but we do we haven't talked to anyone in a while actually been a little bit of news in the curling world and i kind of had to catch up on it since i have been completely out of the mix in terms of what's going on in the curling world the last month or so so jonathan do you wanna go through it since you've obviously been on top of all this stuff i don't know if i'm of everything but let's see i say growing in order of what was interesting to me so rachel homan had her baby the name of the regulations to rachel homan congratulations there the name the baby is i think it's pronounced a riot r. i. a. t. t. unconventional name there as julian head hers yet i haven't seen anything on twitter doesn't mean it hasn't happened maybe they're waiting to announce it or i both believe her pregnancy announcement was a bit later than rachel so it may be it's probably soon i would expect in the next month or so aw so yeah so anytime now anytime she's judging by sitting by my experience she has to be just miserable because the very the very end is miserable yeah i don't know i've never had a baby plus like especially now like late june early july when it's hot like we planned we planned ours very very well to where my wife was not pregnant at all when it was warm outside so i feel like we did feel like we did a good job with that but man i cannot imagine and having to do that when it's hot outside so i mean yeah so it's peterson to see and i think that'll i'll be curious to see that that's going to be an interesting wrinkle for the team next year obviously there's a lot of teams on tour now that at least one of the players has had a baby this kind of ethic seems to be the the baby year in the olympic cycle but it's gonna take a little break to get back next you're going to chase them the point so yeah good time to have it right so yeah it'll be so that's that's i think the for me that was the most interesting is probably the biggest news is the current world cup is at least suspended and possibly awesome dead so going off the press release and the w. f. it sounds like the moon partner from china qingwei sports it did not fulfil all of its financial obligations and so as a result w. c. f. has decided to not run the curling the world cup this year it's makes me sad so i guess the check bounced or did they just they were never mailed by don't know that was i i mean you you work in sports PR for quite a while and i must have been seen the press release but that was a pretty hostile press release not quite end not quite hey dan gilbert when lebron left the cavs but basically it was not in comedy sang pretty hostile which makes me think yes yeah that was one of the more to the point and honest press releases i've seen in sports like i'm used to the ones that are you know kind of kind of beat around the bush and don't really tell you exactly what's going on leave it up to the imagination that press release left to nothing too so it's a funding issue sounds like so meet so maybe it means i will come back if they can find another sponsor and i think we've debated back and forth so i guess we can't really answer that come back because we don't have any intel on that front but my my guest is no i'm just gonna guess no probably not the question is should it come back i think yes just because i mean gave a gave if the US a big event on the calendar and you ever watched the current world cup nuggets night never never watch conway didn't really affect weld cutting that much made it wasn't wasn't in the olympics wasn't massive so are you gonna miss it not at all at all so what what's your go-to curling watching men i watched the brier every year obviously when the olympics comes around gotta watch that men's and women's worlds of course there's there's plenty of stuff that you know people can watch it's not like it's a massive thing that we're losing here so i i wouldn't wouldn't be upset if it didn't come back all right so it's a vote against i i'm kind of on the fence so what i liked about it was it created a top line event outside of canada so because something kind of slammed equivalent don't have one event in the US one in europe one in asia that was good i think i thought the format was a mess it made no sense it also made no sense sense what countries were invited to it so i think that if it w does want to bring it back on top of finding sponsor hopefully they'll have a big rethink about the format to and kind of try to create a more interesting event because to be honest the format was just the snore fast it was robin and then just just two teams got in played in a final never really kinda built anything so i just didn't like it from a format perspective to be honest yeah it was weird and i think it just came i think the format came about because they decided from the start how many draws they were going to do in how many teams that are going to ah invite shoehorned the format to fix that instead of thinking out okay we want to do x y and z. with the format and then from that figure out how many teams to invite yeah so there may be a space for an event like this but again the fact that felix care and oh yeah i think that's kind of catch the sentiment of the average curling fan it never does not there certainly are fans who are kind of slammed i fans and certainly our fans who are kind of seeing champions international competitions first curling line fans i don't think there's anyone out there who's curling world cup i know maybe the space the idea WCFSD do something going forward with ryan on this it's probably dead it was probably like a one year trial and mainly the WF comes back with something completely we different but i'm skeptical that we're gonna see anything else in this cycle we've talked about this before the whole point of this event was to get more curling games on television in the US and china and to that point this excellent succeeded that was the whole reason this thing came about so it it succeeded in the fact that it got it got curling on television division in the US in china so i don't think it can be viewed as a complete failure i'm sure it will be viewed that way in canada because it really didn't get on it didn't get much coverage in in canada and i don't think it got much buy in from canada and i think that was that was probably its primary downfall is the WCFSD WCFSD could get i don't think the w CF got curling candidate by in yeah i think that was part of the problem and the format was a bit weird here's where they could have had more buyin is if they'd made the first three events more regional specific and then you know how to a european event maybe north american bracket with a few other european teams are or asia pacific teams invited around on the field and then anisia pacific event and then the wars got all expenses paid trip to china say so that would cut down on travel costs the fact that teams had to self fund their travel that was a big issue it was also scheduled a weird time so try to run it against the canada cup that automatically took out the top seven or eight teams in both the men's women's side from canada which you are going pretty deep down the the order of merit standings to get teams to default the draw so not getting top top name draws there are there was a bit of a problem so those are the two big problems and then it's not really clear what it is is it playing for your country and then nations competition or is it basically w CF trying to do the slams in its own own way of playing for money so that was kind of the other thing that never really clarified what kind of event it was if it's kind of world curling federation try to want run a slams type event then i think you've gotta look at having more than one you know basically full in the field out through order of merit standings getting the strongest teams in art getting the best you know name brand people in their if it's a nuisance format then i kind of like go make something along what ryan propose at one point with taking a kind of like a davis copper teen tennis format where the men's women's and mixed doubles are all playing together competing for points and the best country advances bat since it needed to have a unique point like the the reward at the end needed to be unique like the way it was now i i think they were just trying to make it like you said jonathan slam with flags on the backs of the competitors and that's not going to work i think that if you if you're building towards something grander i think that it works in that case one of my one of the my ideas that i'd said earlier was the three teams per per country per stop the men's esteem the women's team in the mixed doubles team combining to build points for an end of the season winner the other i d i had was a concept i called the schmor- cup where you have three pods of four teams like in china you would have china korea canada and let's say like germany competing you'd have another pod of the US hosting three other teams in just going off of the notes that i made about this like the US would would host a pod with switzerland japan and norway and then you would ever european pod with sweden italy scotland and russia and then the three winners plus the host would clay in the grand final but you've got to men's teams two women's teams in a mixed doubles team playing a best of five in may have it be bracket style good yeah and so the the the country each country reply or would it be men's women's and mixed doubles events independently it would not be independent it would be country country overall so you'd have to five with two men's two women's and mixed doubles yeah that would probably fly although mixed doubles teams are complaining getting many games if they did that but if you just drew the mixed doubles teams from the men's women's teams that would work reporting well what you can you can do so NCAA tennis in the USA so the way they do their your tournament is it is best of seventeen for steam like let's say the university of oklahoma is playing the university of georgia for the NCAA tennis championship championship the way they do it as best of seven and it's you have your six singles matchups one through six but then you breath what they call the doubles point see you have three doubles matches going on at once and whichever team wins two out of three wins the doubles point point and then you play the six singles matches you could do that you can have three three doubles games and if you win two to three you get doubles point i think think i think something along those lines two something to make it different and interesting if it ever comes back because it could be a question of it's not coming back kinda raise interesting question to right there's a lot of this is trying to create these top down events that don't seem to float and then and you've got a lot of actually got a long history of kind of masters sponsor deals and the other challenge cup type events that meeting it will be better off if the w. CF w. c. t. got together and tried to build up the european and asia pacific tour and then maybe had a couple of five ship events that kakada compete with the slams in terms of strength of field and just kind of grow up from the base is opposed to trying to create stuff at a no war without much of a fan base well the WC doing their japan tour this year right they've kind of built up the the japanese leg are are of the world curling tour i think there's like a separate kind of like the kind of like engulf you've got the asian tour european tour i think they've got a japan tour of the w c this year yeah they do they have had a european w. c. t. for a while but it's it is kind of it kind of is up some years down other years it's not really well developed yet i'd say that putting a bit more resources and identifying some top applying events in both both regions would would do a better interest put him on TV and having the WC put it on through their curling tv broadcasts might be you better way to to grow the game that's one of those things is there's not really a you know there's not a uniform television plan for curling you've got you know the season of champions obviously on TSN the and then separate there's a separate TV the deal for the for the slams and then for every other tournament it's basically if they can find a partner that will put it on youtube right yeah and that's kinda problem because there's you know up in scotland they have the perth masters and the i think it's called the glenn hill ladies is the women's version of it and those are our longstanding twenty thirty years of history top teams have always competed at a and i think maybe there'd be a case be made for for turning that into to a televised events somehow and is making sure the field's really strong and that might be a better way of growing the game than just creating something completely we knew the kind of feels a bit fake manufacturer doesn't have a built in fan base whereas you know having some major tournaments in locations that have natural actual tida curling so you know perth scotland's kind of the home of the w CF home a curling in a certain sense it's almost become a major a european event that could compete on par with the slams as opposed to just kind of randomly rotating teams into a a made for the TV format it may get there because the rest of the world is is catching up in quality of teams and in most importantly in depth the right now there's really no reason for canadian teams to leave canada unless they're points chasing unless they're chasing c. t. r. s. points to try and qualify for for for like the the road to the roar vent yeah or or some of them give it get appearance money or they just wanna go somewhere for fine on right like mccotter is last year went to japan and i think that was mostly for fun i got i think they got their trip paid for two that's actually quite common certainly happens there are certainly times where USA curling to try and bolster local dance would would try to recruit some top flight teams from europe and canada to try and get the strength of field up and and you know certainly teams will do that if they're at a certain caliber is it's kind of like a free trip somewhere probably for them it's probably a relatively easy bonds at least to qualify and it's kind of a fun way to to build up point so there are ways to do it it'd be nice to see more resources thrown at that rather than the the manufacture action stuff and i just put it on TV or stream it that would be the easiest way to do it i think so yeah the curling world cup is dead long live the curling world world cup jonathan you're canadian what do you think of the new residency rules for for curling candida i am going to slider j. m. menards DM's and ask him if he wants to play with me next year because almost all of a sudden eligible to play for quebec again so so no it's it's an interesting i'm surprised by it i honestly thought we're gonna see residency doomed i like a lot of chatter on twitter a lot of people in the know seemed to be pushing towards towards you know anyone goanywhere the age of the super teams you know bashar power shooting into nova and kind of this doomsday scenario are we have basically twelve provincial territorial super teams than all the other grassroots curlers are done away with so the birthright residency see rule which they came up with basically says you're always eligible to ply in the province that you are born in so i was born in quebec's us wise making the the j. m. minard joke so so basically our province you were born into that's the province you always have eligibility for plus that's the province you reside in when you sign up for play down so basically everyone potentially two provinces they could plan plus third word as imports that actually gives a fair bit of flexibility fairly clever way to to solve the problem it's gonna be interesting to me if you have anything come up where like if someone's family was in the military and suddenly they have eligibility ability in the yukon even though they lived there for the first month of their life and then move the way yeah so so so one person who's kind of in the tores move around or as john morrison ought to be honest all the top of my head i couldn't tell you where he was born he moved born in auto but is that he's in the military so it's a good chance he could have been born in actually found his page comparison he's actually born in winnipeg pack gianforte wanted to team up with okay you could join him call those rank that'd be uh-huh so let's start that rumor lee-ing lease being lied so john morris can't play for one -tario but he could play under this rule for winnipeg manitoba job according to wikipedia so that's like we had so i used to work in baseball and i worked for the team in oklahoma thomas city and we had a pitcher who was born in oklahoma city in everyone made like a big deal about it like oh this guy was born in oklahoma city is now pitching for this team and i asked him about it and he was like yeah my parents were basically hippies and they were traveling across the country in we were in oklahoma city for literally a a week and i was born and then we moved off authored everyone everyone was like oh but it says you were born in oklahoma city yeah i was here for like all of seven so i think that'll be an interesting unintended harry consequence is some people will have their birth rate attached strange provinces and territories and those kind of like a maybe not the top teams or even the top teams but they make you i'm sure we'll have people exploring the role like any time you put in place a rule and competition people are going to figure out a way to exploit it so many jimmy coup and kevin cooney team up in the next olympics cycle and has kind of the warriors just kinda come out of the territories enroll that was something that that game of stones mentioned and that just made me smile the idea of kevin representing northwest territories in in just dominating with just three guys that he found at the at the local club just that that might be it might be something in kevin does when he gets to be like in his in his late fifties just for fun just find three just find three guys in northwest territories in you just go back to the brier and just dominate because he can do it with the policy still got an import so you could get one in port for the residency rule one resident to residents and then an import you can actually have two people out of province now plus two people residing in province so there you go kevin kelly and john morris representing northwest territories in just winning briars with jani mos going back to manitoba john morris comes back it's for the sole purpose of basically try to qualify for the brier through every province robinson territory ligo you can be the he can be kevin cui's province player for north west territories hi and then lastly news wise we go back to to your neck of the woods the pants team is dead but tomo souls routes still oh plan in fact he's joining up with his old rival stephan wall stead to join to form i guess a norwegian super team yes i hadn't even heard of until you tip me off about it so make sense and it's not surprising i kind of thought it was done so a little bit surprised that he's coming back got it figures with a younger team in front of him that gives them a good shot to do one last olympic run and for all staff that the advantages obvious yes you get the best skin norwegian curling history and got a serious shot at kennedy olympics and with you get to the olympics a good shot at winning being a metal so makes sense for both parties i'd say like wall stead was probably going to represent norway at the next olympics in now while staff is definitely definitely going to represent norway at the next olympics yeah any any probably pick up a lot from all through it like a lot of experience in international competition picking up a pair bid on strategy and team dynamics it's i think it's a good move all around there so should we move onto next segment it sure i guess we're going to now now it's time to to bore everyone right yep bore you think yeah yeah i mean i wanted to do this episode because it's something that's interesting to me and i imagine it's interesting to no one else but it's like it's late june and nothing is going on in curling even though i think the season starts like tomorrow but because there's no there's no offseason in curling anymore anymore but i wanted to do an etiquette episode because you know we like to talk about grassroots and growing the game i think etiquette is important for the growth of the game we're getting back to our roots as a podcast here and we brought felix on so felix your job is to make etiquette exciting that's a totaled alright so felix what did what did jonathan teach you about etiquette when you first started becoming competitive and you in your team started working with jonathan what were this wilbur some of the things that he told you the little things etiquette wise that you needed to watch out for when you were plan ryan i think the big thing they really tried to hammer home was the anything you say in curling around curlers about curling and someone has that that can be used not necessarily against you but it's something that people know that you said i remember once we're the world will bees and australia having a really tough tournament and they lost the game and i went up up to the end because we're friends i kind of jokingly just went oh how was the win and they kinda loft and then jonathan pulled me aside and said you know you can joke around like that but if you say that to the wrong person because cutting such a small small group still in our people people kind of made me make associations about either your maybe a nasty personal you chat about that kind of stuff a lot so i think yeah watching your mouth is definitely something that jonathan jonathan try to hammer home with us in in this is a sport where it's important there's you know kerr curling is i guess a a lot like golf in both scottish sports so it kind of makes sense where you know etiquette is a is a big part of the game from almost from when you get to the rink to win you leave it you know it's about you know being nice hanging out with people before the game it's about getting there you know if you're if you're an arena club like i am like i'm in you get to the rink early you help set up the ice there's hand there's a handshake before the before the game begins there's a handshake after the game ends since and then you guys have a beer together it's kind of you know it's it's a very etiquette filled sport from beginning to end yes now i think i think that's the kind of important thing that may be united new colors come into spoke really should understand is very traditional everyone's very pleasant everyone's nice always off the other team you'll you'll opposing position a drink if you went after the game nice said abrasions during shots it's all you keep everything fairly low key while you're playing felix was that something that kind of attracted you to the sport you know we're you know was it was the fact that it is a game of etiquette was that something that was a positive to you or you know as a younger person is kind of like something that you almost no sign i know some people some younger people are gonna sean it because you know there's a lot of etiquette to remember and it seems like you know the the minute etiquette things when i got into curling seemed like okay that's for the old people but you know is that something that kind of track did to the game yet definitely i'm before i before i played coming i played cricket which is pretty even more etiquette ill coming into calling it was pretty you know it was nice to to see that it's you know everyone's very nice pleasant and you know it's you'll never shunned if you miss a shot or or maybe you'll you'll sweeping you fool over it's not you know it's a very very nice when you get when you got started what were some some of the things that that you were you were taught at the beginning you know there's a difference between jonathan might tell you in a in a competitive competitive event but when you were starting when you were you were just learning the game what were some of the things that were hammered home to you as a new chrysler i mean yeah but when you're a new coach told all the things that if you if you if coach for a few days now a very obvious but things that you do second nature now alike not crossing the hawk line when the other team throwing not talking when the other team throwing doing the handshakes before after the game on the opposition to drink just that the real basic stuff that's pretty much as soon as you staw it's more important than you'll technique and and how and how you'll you'll you'll strategies it's it's told values of scully and then how to play it which i think is pretty good way of doing it johnson what are what are some of the little things that that maybe aren't being taught i to new curlers that that need to be what are what are some of the things that you know if if someone walks someone's hosting a learn to curl tomorrow what are the some of the things that get forgotten that that need to be expressed to them turn in terms of etiquette it's a good question so i think when we started the oklahoma curling club were things that surprised me is that there are so many little rules in curling that back i wouldn't even have thought about doing and sure enough somebody every single week would break one of them so i remember you're part of the problem so with an arena club especially where you don't have many experienced curlers to start it off with it can be quite difficult to get the curling culture going and so i would the very first season there's a team there and their i dea was if if the opposing player had to make shot they would kind of jump up and down and try to distract them at the other end is like in basketball might try to distract the three point right shooter and they know curling the free throw shooter in basketball so just just like they had no experience with curling they didn't understand that you're not supposed to try to distract the opponent when they're they're shooting at all but in a lot of sports that's actually completely acceptable and it kind of encouraged right so that was just something we try and explain it to them and i was like because they did it against me and they're like are you to say 'cause you're bitter recyc- you out take a bit of a tricky situation that are another one that was interesting is one team was kind of running another team off the scoreboard and the i team wanted to concede in the in the second team said no we're not we don't want to accept your concession because we won't keep beating because we wanna kinda run the score up even even further for the record that was not my president but something like that would happen basically the every week and i'd be like i've ever seen anyone do that in curling but i can see how someone who is new to curl and the idea of the opponent would concede would actually be seen as poor sportsmanship rider dislike all of there being a poor sport and quitting and they're not playing a whole game out and try to run up the score was seen as kind of completely normal because he play oklahoma's a big college football area so no hanging one hundred on your opponents kind of par for the course you wanna you know i guess they were trying to get a good good posting and the coaches poll the next week or something i don't know why the team was thinking but yeah so this a little things like that are kinda the hard to explain but the thing that i kind of picked up on also when doing this is almost an appreciation for why all those little rules are there because obviously people start distracting people and taunting them the flow of the game gets thrown off right and so if teams just kind of waving their arms to the far end when they throw the west the stop me from kind of standing next to you in the hat and telling you been amiss when you're about to throw right that it can kind of escalate pretty quickly until all it really is is a game of trash talk and distraction and not really a test of skill and similarly defectors try to run people off the scoreboard floorboard in curling fledgling club like we did people may have a bad time and not come back and so if you actually think about a lot of the rules we just kind of say the way you do it but actually a lot of rules are there for good reasons to make sure everyone has a good time to make sure people do come back you know in most curling clubs are only a couple of hundred people bowl so if you start pissing off your club members you're gonna find it hard to play with people pretty quickly get out of the club pretty quickly so a what if it gets there to just kind of help people get along and helped the club thrive and and survive long term in also as you pointed out a lot of it is there to to keep the game going and that's one of the things we run into win especially if you're an arena club in your on a time limit you're trying your best to get eight eight ins in and that's not always it's not always easy when when people are trying to are doing things like that that that that aren't keeping the game going yet affects the flow of the game i mean one of one of my other pet peeves some teams in club play when the plane claim two o'clock we'll start slow playing to win the game which is also kind of bad sportsmanship so it's not as if etiquettes always kind of done done properly even at the club level but that's that's kind of a classic trick distraction slow playing the game try tribe you stuff to win not based on skill and that's that's normally where most of the etiquette rules come from is to make sure the winner is based upon being the most skillfully flee executed that day not based on kind of dirty tricks or gamesmanship or second year opponent out here's a question for you guys so you're getting new curlers into the game obviously one of the ways that you keep the game going is you keep the front end between the hog lines when the other team is shooting how much at what point do you kind of ignore that and part of your goal is to get the new colors to understand understand some strategy and why we're why you're doing certain things with shots and maybe have them in the house during discussions so that they're learning you know is there is there a fine line between trying to teach new curlers kind of some advanced advanced curling strategy and keeping the game moving to you wanna answer that felix or should i you can take so i would say i try to just kind of play the game very quickly when i'm skipping especially ashdod beginners and if they have a question i'll say we're going to talk about it after the game explain it that's kind of my bias this is always towards kind of faster play and trying to get all eight ends in especially at the club level and i think that most of the time wasting isn't really over strategy how did you calls if you actually watch most club play most time is wasted because one of the people throwing takes two to three minutes to set up for their shot they're not in position then they go and sit down the sideboard and are to take their gripper off or put their slider on the stones not bear and so that's that's kind of if the primary culprit is slow play is players not being a position being ready to throw so more ideal setup for a club team is actually really having kind of a skip who calls the game quickly is pretty decisive and then a vice who basically spent a lot of time kind of guiding being the the new players then choose new players up front and that's kind of to me that's kind of the perfect perfect combination and then basically the third job in cloud plan that circumstances related to make sure that the players are kind of on task knowing what they've gotta be when they gotta be there kind of making sure they're playing as quickly as possible and then ideally the third she'd be the one who's who's explaining any rules issues or any etiquette issues or things like that so this you want us playing in saint paul and try to bring him kind of new curlers fairly often and i often had like a vice who has experienced that was kinda normally are arrangement was you know the vice would spend spend most of the time kind of explain the game to the new players and making sure that they were picking up on the etiquette on the strategy but also basically knowing where to be when it had to be in a certain certain spot and that's one of the things is it is tough to get to those etiquette things that speed up the game during a learn to curl because you don't wanna boreham you only have a certain amount of time for your learn to curl and you want them to get their money's worth presuming that it's not like an open house scenario that they've they've they've paid to be there you want them to get their money's worth and throw as many rocks as possible so taking thirty minutes to explain how to keep the game going no isn't good for anybody so those those the things that almost have to be taught in a game scenario you know it's tough to say okay yeah you did this learn to curl and now you're going to join the league but we need you to come for this thirty minute class on etiquette before we get going you know you don't no one really has time to do that and it's a good way to scare off new curlers probably so yeah it's something that has to be done during the game to let people know the soon as the other person slides out of the hack start getting into the hack and be ready to throw in one of the little things that our friend ron con ahnlund taught me early on was if you're the lead have the skips rock in the house ready to go for when he comes down to throw you know that was one of the things that i never would have thought of before if someone hadn't explained explained it to me the first time that i went through and played what are is that something that just has to happen during the game or is there a way to get those things through to two new players without without slowing down you know their first couple of games basically i think that's the best picked that up through the course of playing in so i know that a lot of clubs and we've done this year in england i do setup beginner leagues and in one sense that's good because everyone feels comfortable comfortable playing with people of their own level but the trade off is often a lot of the advocate and and finer points about where to be when arguably picked up up because this is in a certain sense the blind leading blind loss you have time for coaches to stand at either end and kind of pick up on the little minor details so you know that's basically how i picked all those things up over the years and it'd be honest it's there's a lot of a lot to think about in a curling right even even as the club level there's a lot of little things that pick up on not just in terms of how to win the game but just how to read ice how to communicate things what to save your teammates when to say it where to stand and it takes years to pick that up so that's the that's why the best ask format for it is to bring new players on the front end and they kind of pick it up through playing at been key is really having one player on that team knows it's is their job to bring the one or two new players on that team along and it really can't be the skipped skipped standing up the other end and managing a lot of other things so ideal louis on a club team with new players out of the third or second on the team really takes that on their job in that the third is it's even more important that they be quite frankly a nice person because part of i think etiquette extends to the veterans were teaching the game as well because the last thing you want is to get mad or get snippy with the new players just because they're not following you know just because there's an etiquette violation because they don't know they're new to the sport it's up to you to teach them if they're failing you're the reason why so explaining it to them and not being a jerk eric is really important because you want them to come back you want them to stay in the sustain the league and you want them to pick up to pick up on etiquette kind of naturally so how felix would did you ever run into that when you were coming into java run into someone who was kind of you know not exactly actually teaching you etiquette in the in in the proper manner manner when you started curling us us maybe a couple of times maybe like the league nights i think it was in our people becoming snappy i think it was more sort of condescending toned sometimes gets used towards new colors and it can be a basic things your wrote remember stand there that lots of that kind of attitude that you towards it but for the most part i think sink people are pretty good even if the vitamin cutting forgive themselves maybe even better if you're new to the sport because you can you you can relate to what meghan through as well so yeah you ready find that kind of own say hostility but comes being being a bit to the new colors that ready happens but it's not sort of maybe it's the people become a bit more confidence start to become a bit cocky hockey and teaching the new colors they think they can say what they want and kind of get away with a couple of cheap shots but yeah so it's it's something that i think each all clubs could improve on but i think the the sort of the way of teaching calling two new people of the expert rules is is pretty good at the moment jonathan how much of that have you run into is you've been helping start leagues in help get arena clubs up around the US in help jet curling help advance curling there in england i think it depends on the location so to be honest the oklahoma curling club was the hardest i just because we're starting a club from nothing and we had initially we had six experienced curlers the first night seventy they were i guess sixty six inexperienced curlers so the ratio of experienced inexperience was kinda completely out of whack and so there it was really hard to try to explain explain really basic things people when there's only six people who've done it before and a lot of other people are coming in with their perceptions of how they do things from playing other other sports right so that was the trickiest one think in england it's pretty easy just because the the rates pretty well established and new curlers coming in tend to be outnumbered by experienced curlers sorry seems to be pretty pretty well established in some senses but there's a lot of little things to be honest but have it that that are different in all scottish curling wing even compared to canadian curling so even had to learn some of the subtleties of etiquette in the UK as compared to north america oh you got to go into detail on that is really funny is i remember my first league game here is playing playing a league game and i was down like three without hammer with an end to play and north american game even the club level person's gonna kind of trying to start throwing things through or hitting just to kind of keep it clean right i just end i was playing against was a pretty experience curler and they decide to throw a center guard with their first i shot and i was like what like i never seen anyone do that as i came around there actually ended up being of a draw the game and i kind of asked that person afterwards widened they play defensively because it was basically dead and she said to me while that'd be really unsporting so it's actually in club play here seen as unsporting to try hi to play for the win interesting if that makes sense whereas in canada or any club game this be like europe you kind of blitz them it's over it's raring club hair to concede the match early that's also seen is kind of poor form although if you had a real bad blow both teams agree it's fine whereas as you know in canada if it's over in four ends four ends let's get to the bar see at some point styles here as opposed to win loss other grad has part of the effect of it there's little subtle things like in scarlet especially each player has a specific task doc so the second because i'm often playing second win playing up in scotland spills a second supposed to fill out the scorecard every end so most rinks in scotland lind whenever you're playing at a bond spiel the team is handed a scorecard and they've better bring that scorecard back to the the bonfield master a scorecard engulfs all all those little chart free and you're supposed to put down the score for each and sign and it turned and even in kind of pretty relaxed bonds bills whereas in north america often not the case and so it's the seconds job and i was playing second all weekend i got chewed out by the rink manager for not throwing out scorecard and i'd said honestly i never heard that that it is kind of dirty specific rule we think of other ones that are odd soul stones in scottish ranks especially ashley finish wherever the game finishes so if so if a let's finish an odd number into stones or down there the next team comes comes on and starts throwing towards home so i i grew up multi along with the stones are always brought back home at the end regardless of the score but leave it they are and so that that carthy too because i've kind of intuitively for you know twenty five plus years just kind of bemused whichever direction i'm going i know it's an even our odd end but often get caught out by that he got kind of pay attention canada especially the third of the team that scores is supposed to hang the score score on the board that's never done in scotland people just kind of do whoever wants to do a puts it up and the interesting about hanging the score and can't always taught it's it's really rude if you're blowing a team out to put the score up so i'd say you're like winning ten to one after four ends like let's say you start off winning six twenty four appoint end to kind of pile on the pain often just win with that score up but in scotland or in the UK you're supposed to put the score up every end all the time it's seen as rude to not do that so let's let's see those little subtle things i wish don't seem like much in a certain sense they both have their reasonings behind them but they're different from place to place i think the other reason that etiquette is so important curling is we don't have on ice officials it's a it's a very unique sport in that you're not being officiated officiated again it's very scottish that way right you know gulf even a major tournament they're watching you but you have to call your own fouls in you have to report that when you when you turn in your scorecard but that's also where the breaches in etiquette can kind of almost borderline on cheating right when you're trying to take advantage of the fact that there are no officials on the ice yeah that definitely does happen and it can happen look both ways so we had one i think one of the big things that comes up often and cloudplayer's concern about the hardline especially if you're a more competitive power and you're playing a team that's a bit less competitive say and you won't players in your team that can slide to pass the hog line that can often rattle a less competitive team and i've seen teams get quite obsessed about hog lines and so one of the things that is kind of interesting and counter intuitive i think that's it's often not done properly is if you're not playing in officiated situation is moving on the team mm-hmm you're playing against to call their own foul and so frustrated team slotting over the hog wine but unless there's an empire higher there something to do with kind of the hog wine rules then it's up to that team to declare they delivered over the hawk line or not and so i've actually seen the reverse situation we're playing in someone was kind of upset that one of our players could slide quite far and a team that said that stones coming off because you're over the hawk line and you're never supposed supposed to kind of call that if you look at the rule book you're not supposed to pull another point stone the best you can do is say where he sure was over the hawk line or not and that kind of led to a bit of in argument back and forth because honestly i don't think i was and that players not the kind of person who would lie about that but that that's kind of of an interesting kind of counterpoint to the etiquette so you're supposed to call you on fouls but you also not supposed to be calling fouls on the opponent 'cause otherwise you very quickly ended up in a situation where you're kinda arguing with people about what was or wasn't done obviously the biggest one in curling is burned rocks right yep burned rocks and other big one incident both that right way back back in the day in kansas city ryan yeah we oh oh yeah i tried to forget that when jonathan forget my losses why is that what's that could we lost of it yeah because we lost his so it was it was right it was completely fair like what what what happened was completely fair in then we wound up losing new ended up losing i remember teammate arrest here is quite upset because hewitt's mad at you need burn to the rock on their last shot and i coulda pulled it and i did hit and rusty rusty than burning it didn't affect it and really did affect it no no it did not really know they would've taken wanna game shot right no one with me one they were no they had to draw the paint yeah he burned it wound up in the certainty of wound up in the in the house burn did not affect the raw affect the outcome of the shot but it affected the outcome of the game some like no and then take out and he says adventure are always yeah so anyway not burn did not affect the shot so it was obviously you're supposed to let the the the the shot stay because he was gonna wind up in the house anyway but then it it forced us to take out which we which on on kansas city's i in in august is difficult by the way that's a that's a fantastic bondsteel if you're looking for a bond spilled this summer go to kansas city in august it is amazing but the ice is going to be a challenge yeah as it was for you bet on that show interesting so felix have you ever had a situation worthy opponents burned a style and you had to decide what to do with it yeah i had a really bad we're kind of weird incident it was the the national oh school championships and the we call the mecha- and and this was my my first season i've been calling for six weeks and the the other team put the measure down the umpire came over i think and said you guys after the measure and so we we did and i couldn't tell which is closer and then i thought right now lost the empire looked up and then had another look at the stains and their stein was the way closer towards the middle like noticeably closer and i'm positive to the state that they kicked closer lisa but didn't say anything until after the match where i went up to the money the whole thing i think they burned to and then i think thank my word was taken to be true and then they disqualified the team for from from the rest of the game and they go to line and it kind of kicked up a bit of auguring between the parents of should i have called it there and then which i should have done should they have been disqualified defied and it was it was a bit messy but yeah i think i think that was if they did kick it was seriously seriously dishonest i and i'm one hundred percent sure they did obviously no cameras nothing nothing like that so i guess we will never know for sure but it's one of those things where and it was technically their fault because it wasn't the third who was in the house it was the the skit third and the lead all standing around the stone which which is another thing she's got assuming another piece division up for your rights when a measurement is going on if you are not the third get far orpheus house yeah get in get away from the house and this pet peeve is don't put your broom is i don't know why people put their brooms on worked i hate sorry they don't do it is dangerous broker trip on it and it's actually the warn way actually burn the swelled not the only way burns down but you could actually born the stone if you put the broom on the ice someone comes along kicks that broom up against the stone than you've displaced this down so i don't know why people do that but that's dumb so don't do that it should be as soon as as soon as it's close measure everyone should this be passed the hog line in my mind apart from the two people measuring and if there's an amp the up and it's just between those two they just do the measure and then you can resolve everything afterwards because honestly honestly the times where i've seen someone burn stone own there was a counter is because there's too many people in the house and signed and basically there's more people in their kind of talking about it and people get confused about what has been agreed on what hasn't been agreed on and so it's to your detriment if you're not third to be there because i think all you can possibly do as mess it up so just go away if there's a measure on all right so jonathan do you wanna go over the burned rock rule since we've been talking about it here for a little bit both in terms of shots rocks that are that are in motion in then when you're in a measurement situation go over because i'm sure this is confusing for a lot of people jonathan what is the burned rock drool okay so go off their world curling federation rulebook very from federation federation but it's pretty much the same principal so it's rule are and so it doesn't say burnt rockets called attached moving stone so technically a bernstein orange stone is attached moving stuff and so the first thing to understand is it can happen in three different ways so the first ones between the t learned at the delivery end and the hog line at the playing end so why those that you kind of points is that as soon dudas stone in a delivery cross the line it's considered in play and then as soon as it crosses the hog line that's when it's kind of scoring position so the forest zone is basically what i call the delivery zone for lack of a better better term then the second zone is after the hog line at the playing end until hell the back end so if the stone is burned that means if somebody touches it if it's sweeping or delivering team touches it between the team on the delivery and hog line at the playing end or the scoring end then at stone is supposed to be immediately immediately removed from play okay so a lot of poor will i see now is they'll born stone midway down the ice and i'll kind of keep planning and then they'll declare the foul at the far end after it's come to rest and that's technically in violation of rule so if you born the stone as a super or fall born on a touchstone between before hogwash stones was to come to point there's no debate about it whatsoever so there's no no dispute there under any kind of circumstance that's actually seen some high level players make that mistake too so if even have it happen on TV but it but it for the you're supposed to stop it from play from across the hog line then the next one is from the hog on in intelligence until the end of play and so there you're supposed if you born the stone you're supposed to did acquire the foul but let the stone come to rest and that all the stones come to rest and then the skip is there and of the opposing team is then given the decision is actually the scalp is pretty clear on the rule book so the skip then can either let the stones fall where they may whether it ended up they can remove the bernstein from played reset everything back to where it was prior to the burn or they can and put the stones where they thought they would have ended up had there not been lebron's go right to the way the role is written is that the non non offending team shouldn't ever be penalized consequence of brooks okay so that's important to emphasize there is that the non offending team should you never suffer a penalty as a result of burn stone so one of the reasons that rule was there is that this was the twitter question that came up from amanda she she was asking at the tulsa curling club she asked what happens if the team intentionally burns a stone to protect their stone so sweeping team there stone is kind of wildly off path and they may take their own stones out or make situation war so they decide to burn the stone and then say oh it's burned so we're not gonna so the outcomes not going to happen so basically stop a bad consequence happening to you and the reason the born rule set up the way it is is the stop exactly that situation from happening some things have happened once or twice where teams tried to take advantage of me kind of doing that but it's kinda rare but it does happen so then is that actually in that circumstance if the non offending team because they actually that's gonna take yours out so that's that's the result we would like so that's how that rule supposed to be kind of applied in that circumstance the fourth is what happens if moving stones touched either by the other team or some kind of external force and necklace you can actually that's one of the few cases and curling were can actually request a rediscover the stone or again car of the bird walk rule applies in reverse also but actually i'd say you're sweeping i slip on the ice and burned the stone you could actually have the right to reveal of your stone because the opposing team kind of blocked it along the way so those are kind of the classic burned rock scenarios are pointing to keep in mind is that you've got to declare the foul all you need to declare that you did kind of burn the stone when you when you did it otherwise you are cheated so i think that's the kind of the main point they're trying to make all the difference between still being burned before the hard cross the hoglund after across the hog line so if it seemed burns the rock on purpose purpose before it gets the hug line what happens under the rule book actually supposed to move from play okay so you so so if you so there's really like you're just a jerk but burning or gun purpose before he gets to the headline actually really has no repercussions other than other than scorn in scorned i think i guess the student's tuition i could see that happening in as if someone was really not not a good team and so so far off the target the stone had no shot before across the hog line right and was also simultaneously gurney for communication gatien that they do that so that would be would be some level stuff but i feel like i've seen it happen before under realize the impressive combination the nation of terrible scale but also on using kind of notions of angles and communication to burn it it's kind of an unlikely ven diagram there you have a really good skip in three who is also a jerk in three not good team hates it's pretty much what you have to have their right i wish i had it on arena curling could happen but it seems unlikely but you have inherit away to exploit the rules right yes i always do so here's here's another one that comes up a lot with new curlers and that i see a decent amount someone comes out of the hack where they forget to remove their gripper to me etiquette says let them re throw the rock what does the rule book say like what is it the is it the inline or is it the near t. line that the ri- that if you if you're able to keep the rock from going past which of those lines means that you can legally re throw the rock like if you have a situation like that happen if you stop the stone from crossing the delivery not line lulu you can re throw the stone but i think you're right is covered in the rule book by basically if both ships agreed it's actually one of the key roles if bo skips agree than most the rules in the rule book to apply like us skipped can kinda wave off just about any rule and that actually happens you know not not super rarely you know like saw exacting situation you've got a new curler they've fallen down stones gone firing away you know under most circumstances i think most skips would saying let's get oregon there no problem right for more advanced people they should know ooh that they've gotta stop the stone before across the tea line so that's the that's the wolf for that i mean there's a lot of things like that you know if you're an arena club like i am you don't have a competitive league in a non competitively because you just don't have the ice time if you're in a big club that has dedicated located ice you might have a dedicated league where you're following the w CFO USCCA rulebook to t- but in when when you have the league that you're you're working on expanding your club you're working on getting new curlers acclimated to the sport a lot of the rules kind of need to go out the window right and you have to follow your you have to rely more on etiquette right you've got to rely more on etiquette you've got to rely on using your judgment but also i think in those cases making it clear what the rule is and a lot of a lot more rules are going to be broken by newbies just because that's that's the way it is a lot of patients with more experience curlers the key actually i talked about like how every single broke however single rule the rule book kinda got broken in the first six tweaks and on on top of a lot of the etiquette rules the one rule that i'd never seen broken before that we broke in week three was the book in stone rule so do you know what the broken stone first of all what happens when stone breaks felix team you know isn't it it's the big hall of the stein wherever that lies this is the legitimate place yes yeah and so we're we had two draws back to back and it's probable a four or five weeks in and i basically felt like things that got to a point where i could step away and a friend let's go to the bar the pub nearby during the second draw relaxing we'll come back for tear down because i wasn't playing on the second draw so we go to the pub forty minutes i got a text message jonathan stone broke what a dear i thought it was a joke but no they sure enough who kind of hide us curling stones and one of the ones that somehow got damage in transit and not a huge chunk a large enough chunk that the the strike-ban kinda came off so it's not playable anymore after that so off it was a decent amount of that rock you rock and they were kind of like i've this is the rule book that i've always wanted along to apply so we actually did end up with a book in stone i think it is now iran's living room in ottawa so it like you said they were used stones they were actually very heavily used stones they weren't old just in the sense that they're granite so they're million in this sorts literally millions of years old they were old in that they had been used for curling for quite a long time and not just that they were blue hone which blue hone stones are great like running surfaces they run like a dream but they're very susceptible to the situation that we had come up there in week three of the curling club was striking bands aren't you know earn arnez artist hearty i mean we we brought them on discount right so i'm not sure if every single encountered every single rule in the rule book i always knew being broken but our lose new white rural and carlos wanted to see it apply and in my mind it would have called someone throwing like crazy takeout wait but in this case apparently was actually a really soft tap and it just went up bob gave way so there you go yeah yeah well i mean we're kind of begin to wrap up here but all kinds of say going away from the rule book would or a couple of etiquette things that are important that aren't necessarily in the rule book and i'll give you an example one of the things that as a new curler i didn't find out until will gosh probably almost a year and a half into playing before someone finally told me about this was where you carry your broom when you're following the rock in not sweeping you don't wanna be holding it over the path of the stone obviously because the other team's going to think that you're you're dumping to try in to try and slow down the rock that was something that no one told me until i've been playing for like a year and a half is that rana told you that yes i i mean we could do a whole curling too i mean some listens unlike etiquettes in some listens i was having been around to clubs a lot i've learned lots of tricks i don't use them but it's useful to know what they are just spot them when they're being used against you so one thing i think's loss affective with synthetic brooms but back in the day with either porn or horsehair brooms especially you actually get a fair bit of debris up in your brush and then if he's wanted to shake loose in front of the slide path yeah you could perhaps causes stone discs lot stop curling right the nets the burned rock rule basically is there for similar reasons that there there were you know you ask the land back on the day back in the fifties and sixties especially some some teams knew that if you just kinda cut the stone at the right moment he takes just enough speed off to got had to stop where he wanted to stop right so that's kind of that kind of cheating the the burnt rock rule was put in there to stop that specific kind of cheating at the higher higher level again i'm trying to think of other ones like that i think have you ever had have you had something like that happen to you felix six were something that you didn't even realize could be construed as cheating but just no one took the time to tell you about until it was too late no i don't think i don't think cheating necessarily i mean some of the more hidden etiquette rules maybe we should talk about later on which you didn't even realize you're doing my favorite example of this involves jonathan we're playing the game against him jonathan makes it's an okay double take-out tons around to us and just screams yeah baby loud as hell in which you know oh yeah that that for me was one of those things you don't talk about straightway the right way but definitely celebrating your shots especially to that degree for pretty easy lined up double take-out it's an doubles jonathan can make it easy yeah exactly puff aligned up well every bubbles perfectly lined up if you make it yeah that's interesting right so that's i would say two things that are kind of come up we talked so celebrating your shot and action you pull the opponents when they burn it a both kind of interesting debates that have popped up and even the plight right so the controversy about at home at the twenty eighteen i'm vicks when she pulled the burn stone by then mark and a situation not dissimilar from from us playing in the kansas city bonn spiel but obviously with far stakes at play that that the winner winner of kansas city bondsteel got some very good barbecue sauce jonathan so let's not completely unequated the kansas city bondsteel from then i got from the olympics right so there's no barbecue sauce throw for not making the playoffs so interesting question because under the rules apply the rules strictly then hohmann was completely within her rights to pull that stone right it's kind of evolved as an unwritten etiquette rule that you don't do that and schuster was also kind of accused at twenty sixteen world championship kinship of also interpreting the rule in a way that gave his team at advantage but he didn't burn the stone and the interpretation that he applied was completely within the rules of the game so now what's interesting to me is that etiquette and sometimes is kind of bread by curlers is demanding more than what the black letter of the rule book says i'm not not entirely convinced that it should be i don't think in either case that home and or schuster did anything wrong so i wasn't personally offended in either case but there certainly certainly will a lot of curlers on social media stands that were offended that they did pull stones or kind of set things up when they didn't have to yes so i guess spend points there so some of the things that are seen as being bad etiquette aren't necessarily violating the rules so technically under the rules if a team burns a stone then you're completely within your rights under the rule book to pull that stone but in elite curling for a- well in l. kind occurring now seems developed as a norm that you're not supposed to do that but that kind of raises a set of interesting questions may we get into some other time but certainly the backlash against holman in two thousand eighteen against schuster back in two thousand sixteen i think kind of points to the fact it's almost a higher level demanded them at the rule book book says in terms of curling etiquette one of a kind of cheering shots kind of interesting because i think we certainly watch elite curling now a lot aww players do kinda celebrate bigshots and certainly being on tv i think a lot of TV people want to see emotion they don't want the kevin kelly i just made a quad no reaction they actually want the mike mcewen brad jacobs scheme up and down when you make a big shot kind of reaction so it'll be see if that's is changing or not i think that's a little different because they have crowds you've got crowds making noise appreciating a great shot so i think in that case i think in in that case i'm definitely okay with a little bit of celebrating because you're not i mean the the crowd cheering is going to affect the other sheets whereas if you make a shot like that that in an empty curling club celebrating like that might have an effect on the other sheets but with with the crowd cheering obviously everyone else is going to know that something something kinda cool has obviously happened on another sheet can vary from club to professional play for sure but certainly part of a backlash against the jacobs team was that they were really loud when they made shots and games and that if you go back twenty years and watch old brier tapes that was certainly founded founded upon even by the the top players right so that's that's i would say developing trend in curling curling etiquette and what will that translates down to the club lovelorn ought what is interesting an ongoing question what about you feel are you pro or con on on professional professional players in in an arena setting making a shot like that or you pro or con celebrations i i get it if it's full the win or it's digging out of big hole but you know if you're making an impressive show for one in the third end there's no need to you know to jump poppin starts screaming but you know if you'll make an a an enough doubles to win the olympics for example and yet go ahead i think i think when you use the ability to a bit more on after you've made a good show isn't being tim sudden in a bigger prize they win the olympic gold medal i think being team sucked than just it's it's an honor basically to be a part of the teams the report with that shot oh woah woah woah that was not for the win i i seem to remember us beaten that because we were so angered by your reaction yeah that's a good point right that if you celebrate to march or say something a bit to repeal within could give your opponents bulletin board material so you wanna watch it too right yeah exactly and then you know after the game back in the clubroom offer a couple of beers than cannot you can you can make your points a bit more vividly then i'm not a big fan of gloating after the game but you know i think it's all right tara to celebrate in the moment if it's an honest kind of joyous release i've heard from you after you pay us in the local canton sussex competition in the final is you'd you do like to bring that up quite long i don't think i've brought it up at all right okay sure yeah pretty sure you've brought that up on this podcast through all right so i think we're gonna we're gonna wrap up here so just real quick as we get out of here i'll ask us both of you kind of wonder what what's the one something that you kinda wish more new curlers new are like what's what's like one kind of kind of key etiquette thing that that you know is is an obvious one that maybe we should be teaching new curlers from union for felix both of you off i feel like scan of a second to think so one of the one not obvious thing you have to edit this out as i think to i think one not obvious thing is pace of play that that also is an etiquette issue so teaching lou curlers to basically writing a throw when it's their turn to throw and then knowing where to stand when it's not their turn to flow if you can if you can kind of draw that into new curlers that'll have a very positive effect across the club so that would be one of the points that i would emphasize with new curlers yeah i think i think for me it's connectivity with speed of play clearing up the stones at the end of the end just just kick a couple to the back something i'm not a big fan skip finishes the end comes down to steam and goes away and i've ever pitch chen moved to the back and then you can stop playing quicker as well which is good good thing to get out of a mine honestly is kind of a pace of play thing to in its yoyo if you're the lead y'all have your heavier skips rockaway to go when he gets down yeah that's a good one too so space is kind of a big point yet because it's not an obvious teaching thing when you're going through learned into chrome because you just don't have time to do it something you've gotta teach kind of in the in the flow of the game sometimes it's hard to do yep for sure sir sir and i think that's the kind of the key points there is pace of play and i think also kind of disrespect for your opponents and being honest when you burn cornerstone those are the three kind of big takeaway say and i'll leave with one of the etiquette situations that was actually sent to us on twitter her we kind of asked people what are some examples of good etiquette that you've seen you know a lot of people tend to harp on on the negative you know oh i can't believe that guy did during a game last tuesday but would i asked for some good ones some good examples in one of the things that that curling geek sent us was a spiel in twenty seventeen one team already had the game won and elected with hammered not to throw when they were sitting seven so the after eight ender they opted not to attempt the aden off because the game was the game was effectively over pretty good yeah i'm not sure i'm not sure i would have had i'm not sure i would've been able to do that i think i might have gone for it yeah i've never i had a shot for any gender so i might have been tempted to i would what about felix would you would you would you have thrown the rock in that situation oh yeah hundred percent i'm gonna pass up on a night andro pacheta see all right so whatever it seemed that was that that opted not to throw the eight ender that takes that's a though that that that state yeah yeah that is some that is some self control role so congrats to them thank you everyone thank you everyone for listening and thank you so much felix for coming on and and good luck to you this sub coming season i hope you can overcome overcome jonathan's coaching and and 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Podcast Crossover w/ Partner In Crime, Hawklyfe!

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Podcast Crossover w/ Partner In Crime, Hawklyfe!

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Digital Technology and Ethical Uncertainties in Strategic Marketing

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28:03 min | 2 years ago

Digital Technology and Ethical Uncertainties in Strategic Marketing

"Quitting your burgers of a coffee table. If you want to eat a burger put it on a bar Vol your instincts to be dubbed for the new all American cheese voter fresh juicy fiefs fastest crispy around the edges covered a gooey cheese and stacked to the ceiling with deliciousness knocked that baby Dow with a frosted beer at the bar just like those sports God's intended the new all America cheeseburger at Buffalo Wild Wings. Please drink responsibly. Welcome back everybody time once again for another episode of W._V._U.. Marketing Communications today coming to you live from the campus of West Virginia Virginia University syndicated show that sits squarely at the intersection of data driven decision making and modern marketing practices with the magicians who seemed to know how the trick works Carlos Today a few Cummings Matthew Am Juggling Juggling. That's right. That's right. Thank you Paul. It's it's good to be back here with another inciteful episode of Marketing Communications Today from West Virginia University City today. We're going to discuss the balance between privacy and convenience with digital technology and also explore some of the ethical uncertainties that loom in Strategic Marketing Communications today. It's an interesting interesting show our guest to help us sort everything out is amy teller marketing consultant with the Maxon Group. Amy Has a bachelors in Arts and Art History from the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg Virginia and more than ten years of experience working in fine art institutions including the Metropolitan Museum of art in New York and the University of Michigan Museum of art her career path also includes work as a special event coordinator in which she collaborated with cross functional. It'll teams brand position and promote events through targeted distribution channels amy also recently received her m._B._A.. From William and Mary and is currently consulting for several startups in northern Virginia and Michigan through which she enjoys being able to apply liner love of design and interest in uncovering driving forces underlying consumer's unmet needs to identify how an organization can best leverage its resources to maintain a compelling yet sustainable competitive advantage at something. All of us are striving for Amy is also on our team here at W._V._U.. Teaches event planning and event promotion online in the Reed College of Media. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us today Amy L. Absolutely they thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here. Yeah glad to have you so as you and I were talking about the episode here. <hes> one thing that became apparent in our conversations is that digital technology is really <music> outpaced privacy protection and as a result. It's fundamentally important for marketers to navigate and I love a word that you used when we were talking about you know how do we describe today's episode and as this ethical tightrope to build sound sound and sustainable marketing strategies so to get started today started down that tight rope if you will. How do you feel digital technology has changed the landscape of marketing? I'll you know it's changed it. In so many ways he's basing I it's really completely transformed the way in which brands communicate with consumers marketing no longer limited to the more traditional mediums of prints or for television and radio ADS. You know marketers can now get in front of consumers instantly you know across multiple channels and it's also changed the entire structure discipline you know today marketing marketing really mandate the integration of art and science and I'm pretty sure that's something that we've mentioned in a previous W._v._U.. PODCAST but I bear repeating because marketers must now really combined both creative skill sets and things like graphic design and branding and typography and creative content writing with really more like technical and analytical skills that are focused on things like. Data analysis and search engine optimization and e commerce tools and to dovetail on this you know technology has also created this new emphasis on data driven marketing strategies. Oh Jeez marketers have an access to an enormous amount of consumer data and analyzing that data has really become fundamental to strategic marketing so I can't help but think as you as Aziz shared that that digital technology is really level the playing field between consumers and marketing so her marketers I should say so what once used to be kind of a top down approach or an inside out approach which has really level that playing field so what are some of the benefits of utilizing digital technology for <hes> for US marketing communications professionals I would say you know it's really improved the overall effectiveness and efficiency efficiency of marketing campaigns tools like automation allow for better controls and it streamlines connectivity in a way that allows marketers to get in front of consumers faster target highly specific segments and increase competitive scope I reaching larger numbers of consumers often on a global scale and to do all of this and a more cost effective effective manner so you can't really talk about digital technology though without discussing data so what role has data played in the marketing arena and how has that benefited marketers absolutely Louis you know the influx of big data provides marketers with constant you know often minute by minute even second by second feedback which allows marketers to really have a finger finger on the pulse of consumers to really understand not just segment but individuals and it allows marketers to track trends and consumer behavior and uncover some of the driving forces behind the needs of consumers based on real time behavior not just historical data <hes> big data also allows marketers who anticipate fluctuations in the marketplace and then really leverage that information to adapt adapt quickly to changes and consumer preferences and it's really this level of what's called digital differentiation more having the ability to target the right customer at the right time and the right way. That's really become imperative to creating a sustainable competitive advantage so that's how it has benefited marketers but let's talk about consumer so how has <hes> how has digital technology in the increased resuce in reliance on data <hes> improve the marketing space for for consumers you know from a consumer's perspective it really create something of a paradox and what I mean by that is that every time we step into cyberspace we leave a footprint you know from our purchase and search histories to win and with whom we communicate even our location and images and all of that information is vulnerable to being trapped you know but the same technology also provide customized content tailored specifically to our interests you know often instant access to products that better meet our needs needs and it's created an overall more accessible and convenient marketplace and this is where the issue of privacy versus convenience really comes in and I would argue that the <hes> privacy paradox is really driven by our own collective choice as consumers for convenience <hes> for example <hes> you know I don't know about you but I I personally find it really frustrating waiting if I travel logged into secured site because I have to reset my password or you know if it takes more than a few seconds for Google maps to find my location and give me direction and you know this. Is You know there's some really interesting research actually agrees with US according to a survey by the Pew Research Center in Early Two thousand and nineteen quote this share of U._S.. Adults who say they use certain online platforms is statistically unchanged. Changed from where it stood in early two thousand eighteen and you know this is just by a long stretch of controversies over privacy fake news and censorship on Social Media and along the same lines. There's an article published in two thousand seventeen that found quote consumers believe that is ultimately used to enhance their interaction with the brand and they weren't as concerned with the technicalities or the source from where the data was being taken as long as they were informed and received a better online experience and I think what these findings really indicate is that despite potential privacy concerns you know consumers really really value the convenience afforded by digital technology so one a springboard off of this privacy paradox that you mentioned and what are some of the key ethical considerations particularly in in terms of privacy and security that are that are underlying digital technology for for both marketers and also throwing consumers as well privacy and security is certainly a hot topic in the digital world you know particularly after facebook came under criticism for its mishandling of user data and you know I've thought about this a lot and I think part of what makes this such a fascinating and fiery topic is that you know we've basically entered into kind of a digital wild west you know technology is rapidly expanding into previously unknown frontiers and the law is basically having to play catch up and what that does is open the door or for potentially unethical practices to fill the gap you know and today there's so many emerging technologies that had the potential to create some ethical issues around privacy and security. You know take facial recognition. I think the fact that it seems to make the headlines like daily. I didn't really underscores there. There's a broad public reckoning over issues of privacy and surveillance in fact there was a New York Times article on Monday about out how organizations are racing to build facial recognition systems and they're mining these images from social networks dating services even surveillance cameras and restaurants and colleges and this is being being done with little to no oversight at this point. It's kind of like a digital manifest destiny you know and other technologies include biometric identification software that can identify person by his or her heartbeat from over six hundred feet away we have artificial intelligence and neural networks that can learn from data and make decisions with scary little human intervention <hes> location based technologies can broadcaster current coordinates local businesses. There's autonomous vehicles even Amazon's Alexa has raised privacy concerns and there's absolutely fascinating research out of the University of Washington on direct brain to brain interface in which they were able to who transmit decisions the Internet to the brains of other participants and you know it's one thing to have your computer hacked into but you know what if someone was able to hack into your brain you know it really does raise some of these questions and it also creates. Something called a comedian problem though you know if you remember your Greek mythology from atheist joe fire from the Duma high school teacher well. Maybe you'll remember this story is pretty bad so <hes> you know he's still fire from the gods gave it to man with punished by by punished I mean he was bound to Iraq and each day an eagle fed on his liver which regenerated overnight to be eight and again the next day that's delicious. I'm glad we're recording this at lunchtime pretty graphic. I know but you know throughout literature prometheus really became kind of personification Jason of the human striving for technological advancement and it's inherent potential for unintended consequences and you know I think in many ways this parallels exactly where we stand right now with digital technology. Interesting <hes> we're GONNA take a quick break now. We're GONNA come back and talk more with amy about this privacy paradox and also some of the important ethical considerations for marketing communications professionals nationals to consider so hang tight. We'll be right back and we just want to point out to those <hes> listening after that graphic description of permit theus there <hes> that West Virginia in Universities Online Data Marketing Communications Program is the first graduate program of its kind in the country focusing on strategic thinking critical problem solving and informed Decision Making Data Marketing Communications Program prepares you for your career by learning those innovative tactics that you need to succeed today from award-winning faculty like those on the show today. If you WANNA learn more. It's pretty simple. Just go visit them at W.. V. Dmc M._C._C. Dot W._v._U.. Dot E. D. U.. For the Data Marketing Communications Program at West Virginia University Oh my well. I think we have set two records here today. I don't think anybody's ever talked about prometheus here such detail and secondly SA- I guess I've heard first person I've ever meet WHO shares my academic background to went to the University of Michigan as an Undergrad and then studied a graduate work at William in Marysville. There can't be many of us here in America here. That's fantastic so that's why I actually know those references somehow we with that <hes> background we seem to that's the way we talk. You know that's just our normal conversation here so <music> after you're in good company. I'll let you guys continue so before the break. Thanks Paul appreciate it again. You're listening to W._V._U.. Marketing Communications today our guest Amy Teller Marketing Consultant with Maxon group and a thought leader in Digital Technology Gee privacy and ethics so I want to jump back into it before the break we talked about this privacy paradox. We talked about security and privacy and convenience so where where do you see this line being being and where should this ethical line be redrawn you know I think that's really the pivotal question here. No we're living on the cusp of a digital revolution and just like the industrial revolution you know are these changes are causing major disruption and really forcing our hand and deciding where to draw from these ethical boundaries you know regulations are evolving and that line between what is right and wrong is constantly shifting <hes> and establish exactly where to draw the line can be tricky because as my professor of integrated technology at Mary's that you know it's really more of of h Hawk line that can easily be and then you know but as a general guideline there are basically two key ways in which the ethical boundary can't be violated and I as a lack of transparency consumers. Aren't you know often consumers aren't even aware that personal information is being collected at all and second is the unauthorized sharing or disclosure of that information Asian so drawing the line on the say you know more conservative side of these is probably you know a course of action but you know as marketers. It's really about finding that balance between collecting collect enough data to target your audience effectively while also maintaining the privacy of your users so where does the onus lay then in protecting sensitive data. Is it with marketers this. Is it with consumers or is that a shared responsibility. You know I agree. I I really think it is both you know from a marketing perspective. Marketers have a real moral imperative to safeguard user data in order to protect brand image and today there's a conscious consumer preference for organizations to fulfill a certain level of social and corporate responsibility ability and with consumer's ability to instantly post comments and reviews consumers have more of a voice than ever so maintaining a strong you know ethical standard is. Is really fundamental to creating the right image in the mind of the consumer <hes> but as consumers we also have a certain level of responsibility to protect our private information. You know we should all do things like read the terms and conditions privacy the APP which use which I'd never do roll scroll except I'm guilty guilty of that for sure <hes> you know but we should also a location settings on our mobile devices and you know check the settings on our social media platforms but you know you know on the other hand. Technology is so pervasive today that really in order to operate effectively in this digital world. I think you have to have a certain willingness to let some of that. Go Yeah so you can't have it both ways and in essence you know I think what you're saying here is that consumers have to take a leap of faith in your opinion. What role does trust take in this delicate relationship that exists between brands and consumers? Well you know ultimately the foundation Dacian between a brand and consumer is built on trust you know and if that trust is breached whether deliberately or accidentally than that relationship is really jeopardized and organizations can risk losing their core customer base so what in that doesn't change if you think about it between an offline relationship that you may have with a brand or organization and and one that is some one that is on line one that is digital in nature so that trust is ultimately the foundation for for that relationship what steps though can organization stake to ensure a more ethical approach to do their marketing strategies yeah so you know I've touched on a little bit of this but I think it's important to go a little more in depth here. You know I it's critical to keep in mind that just because something's not illegal doesn't mean I mean it's ethical or there won't be repercussions in the future and again I think facebook is the perfect example of this because for years they operated under lacks user data privacy and security oversight and now they deface major fines to the tune of five billion dollars and they're serving as kind of a cautionary tale that really underscores how the Federal Trade Commission and other federal and international regulatory agencies are really taking a more aggressive stance against the unethical handling of user data so you know the first step organizations can take to protect themselves if to establish a strong ethical agenda by I maintain what I call ethical fluency by keeping up to date on you know the current privacy insecurity regulations second is maintaining transparency on all data collection in news. You know no because consumers really just want to be informed about what information is being used for what purpose and to have the ability to control the flow of that information and what this does is it allows consumers the power to take and make informed decisions about participation and that builds brand trust and third is maintaining a standard of truth throughout all marketing in communications you know this is where the line can become a little fuzzy because there's a certain level of embellishment on the part of marketers to enhance the positive features of brand to attract buyers but a hard line here is when claims become misleading or false and there are a lot of examples of this but our recent example is the Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Fire Festival for false promotion so MHM fire festival. If you remember was the two thousand seventeen music festival in the Bahamas run it really hinged on powerful influence or marketing and it promise like luxury expended experience. Variants but it really ended up being <hes> a complete disaster and they've really misled attendees nicely in fact I federal judge ruled that <hes> influencers who promoted the event it can be subpoenaed and the F._T._C. has since ruled that influencers clearly state when they're paid for a post by using Hashtag ad or Hashtag sponsored and I think this really marks a move to to holding influencers more accountable <hes> another step that organizations can take is to establish an internal code of ethics that centers on I avoiding the slippery slope because Ethical Issues Austin start small you know something that seems harmless like scanning employees account for personal injury information because you're curious <hes> but that can quickly snowball into less ethical activities such as sharing that information you know so an order to avoid slipping down that slope. It's really best not to take that first. Step off off the path right asking you know how they feel if my personal information was being handled this way second is to avoid ethical blind spots because we tend to overlook unethical behavior when it's not in our best interest and a prime example is how investors ignored Bernie madoff suspiciously consistent returns and you know when confronted with these types of ethical dilemmas best to take pause you know ask questions and really position yourself judiciously save notes and emails. You know get things in writing <hes> to present a well-documented case of maybe and last is to avoid what's called Ethical Amnesia and when you do things like and inadvertently share confidential information for example you know and so if you have a lapse in judgment like this it's really best to take full responsibility but over all to circumvent these ethical pitfalls. It's basically essential for organizations to I recognize potential ethical ambiguities behind these you said digital technology create a culture of responsibility for protecting personal data be good stewards of that information and then ensure oversight to prevent misuse very interesting the of any other advice for emerging professionals in this space <hes> anything else that you want to add or any key takeaways as we as we wrap things up here. It's just really important to create this culture of responsibility. You know <hes> an awareness to spot unethical behavior and then tools to prevent it from escalating and it's just I think it's always better to you know walk on the more conservative side of the line because it's better to be safe than sorry sorry great advice great insights here amy. Thank you so much for spending time with us today and thank you for listening to W._V._U.. 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Digital Technology and Ethical Uncertainties in Strategic Marketing

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Digital Technology and Ethical Uncertainties in Strategic Marketing

"Welcome back everybody time once again for another episode of W._V._U.. Marketing Communications Today Kevin do you live from the campus of West Virginia in university syndicated show that sits squarely at the intersection of data driven decision making and modern marketing practices with the magicians who seemed to know how the trick works Caro's Today you say Matthew Juggling Juggling. That's right. That's right. Thank you Paul. It's it's good to be back here with another inciteful episode of Marketing Communications Today from West Virginia University City today. We're going to discuss the balance between privacy and convenience with digital technology and also explore some of the ethical uncertainties that loom in strategic marketing communications today. It's an interesting interesting show our guest to help us sort everything out is amy teller marketing consultant with a Maxon Group. Amy has a bachelor's in Arts and art history from the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg Virginia and more than ten ten years of experience working in fine art institutions including the Metropolitan Museum of art in New York and the University of Michigan Museum of art her career path also includes work as a special event coordinator in which she collaborated with cross functional all teams brand position and promote events through targeted distribution channels amy also recently received her m._b._a.. From William and Mary and is currently consulting for several startups in northern Virginia and Michigan through which she enjoys being able to apply I love design and interest in uncovering driving forces underlying consumers unmet needs to identify how an organization can best leverage its resources to maintain a compelling yet sustainable competitive advantage at something. All of us are striving for Amy is also on our team here at W._V._U.. Teaches event planning and event promotion online in the Reed College of Media. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us today Amy L. Absolutely they thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here. Yeah glad to have you so as you and I were talking about the episode here. <hes> one thing that became apparent in our conversations is that digital technology is really outpaced privacy protection and as a result it's fundamentally important for marketers to navigate and I love a word that you used when we were talking about. How do we describe today's episode and that is this ethical tight rope to build sound around sustainable marketing strategies so to get started today started down that tight rope if you will? How do you feel digital technology has changed the landscape of marketing? I'll you know it's changed it. In so many ways he's basing I it's really completely transformed the way in which brands communicate with consumers marketing no longer limited to the more traditional mediums of prints or or you know television and radio ads you know marketers can now get in front of consumers instantly you know across multiple channels and it's also changed the entire structure of discipline you know today marketing ticketing really mandate than integration of art and science and I'm pretty sure this was something that we've mentioned in a previous W._v._U.. PODCAST but I bear repeating because marketers must now really combined both creative skill sets and things like graphic design and branding and typography and creative content writing with really more like technical and analytical skills that are focused on things like data got analysis and search engine optimization and ecommerce tools and to dovetail on this you know technology has also created this new emphasis on data driven marketing strategies Jeez marketers have access to an enormous amount of consumer data and analyzing that data has really become fundamental to strategic marketing so I can't help but think as you as Z. shared that that digital technology is really level the playing field between consumers marketing so her marketers. I should say so what once used to be kind of a top down approach or an inside out approach has really level the playing field so what are some of the benefits of utilizing digital technology for <hes> for US marketing communications professionals in I would say you know it's really improved the overall effectiveness and efficiency efficiency of marketing campaigns you know tools like automation allow for better controls and it streamlines connectivity in a way that allows marketers to get in front of consumers faster the target highly specific segments and increase competitive scope I reaching larger numbers of consumers often on a global scale and to do all of this and I'm more cost effective active manner so you can't really talk about digital technology though without discussing data so what role has data played in the marketing arena and how has that benefited marketers absolutely really you know the influx of big data provides marketers with constant you know often minute by minute even second by second feedback which allows marketers to really have a finger anger on the pulse of consumers to really understand not just segment but individuals and it allows marketers to track trends and consumer behavior and uncover some of the driving forces behind entity of consumers based on real time behavior not just historical data <hes> big data also allows marketers who anticipate fluctuations in the marketplace and then really leverage that information to adapt. Adapt quickly to changes and consumer preferences and it's really this level of what's called digital differentiation more having the ability to target the right customer at the right time and the right way that really become imperative to creating a sustainable competitive advantage so that's how it has benefited marketers but let's talk about consumers so how has <hes> how has digital technology in the increase issues and reliance on data <hes> improve the marketing space for for consumers you know from consumers perspective it really create something of a paradox and what I mean anybody that is that every time we step into cyberspace we leave adult footprint you know from our purchase and search histories to win and with whom we communicate even our location and images and all of that information information is vulnerable to being trapped you know but the same technology also provides customized content tailored specifically to our interests you know often instant access to products that better meet our needs needs and it's created an overall more accessible and convenient marketplace and this is where the issue of privacy versus convenience really comes in and I would argue that the of privacy paradox is really driven by our own collective choice of consumers for convenience <hes> for example <hes> you know I don't know about you but I I personally find it really frustrating gene if I travel log into secured site because I have to reset my password or you know it takes more than a few seconds for Google maps to find my location and give me direction and you know this. Is You know there's some really interesting. Research actually agrees with US according to a survey by the Pew Research Center in Early Two thousand nineteen quote this share of U._S.. Adults who say they use turn on my platforms is statistically unchanged changed from where it stood in early two thousand eighteen and this is just by a long stretch of controversies over privacy fake news and censorship on social media and along the same lines. There's an article published in two thousand seventeen that found quote consumers believe that is ultimately used to enhance their interaction with the brand and they were not concerned with the technicalities or the source from where the data was being taken taken as long as they were informed received a better online experience and I think what these findings really indicate is that despite potential privacy concerns you know consumers really may value the convenience afforded by digital technology so one a springboard off of this privacy paradox that you mentioned and what are some of the key ethical considerations <hes> particularly in terms of privacy and security that are that are underlying digital technology for for both marketers and also throwing consumers as well privacy and security is certainly a hot topic in the digital world particularly after after facebook came under criticism for its mishandling of user data and you know I've thought about this a lot and I think part of what makes this such a fascinating and fiery topic is that you know we've basically entered entered into kind of a digital wild west you know technology is rapidly expanding into previously unknown frontiers and the law is basically having to play catch up and what that does is open the door therefore potentially unethical practices to fill the gap you know and today there's so many emerging technologies that have the potential to create some ethical issues around him privacy and security. You know take facial recognition. I I think the fact that it seems to make the headlines like daily. I didn't really underscores there. There's a broad public reckoning over issues of privacy and surveillance in fact there was a New York Times article on Monday about how organizations are racing to build facial recognition systems and their mining these images from social networks dating services even surveillance cameras and restaurants and colleges and this is being eh done with little to no oversight at this point. It's kind of like a digital manifest destiny you know and other technologies include biometric identification software that can identify a person by his or her heartbeat some I'm over six hundred feet away. We have artificial intelligence and neural networks that can learn from data and then make decisions with scary little human intervention <hes> location based technologies can broadcast or current coordinates local businesses. There's there's autonomous vehicles. Even Amazon's Alexa has raised privacy concerns and there's absolutely fascinating research out of the University of Washington on direct brain to brain interface in which they were able to transmit decisions the that Internet to the brains of other participants and you know it's one thing to have your computer hacked into but you know what if someone was able to hack into your brain you know it really really does raise some of these questions and it also creates. Something called a comedian problem though you know if you remember your Greek mythology Joe by from the high school teacher well. Maybe you'll remember. This story is pretty Grad so <hes> you know he's still fire from the God gave it to man and then with punished by by punish I mean he was bound to Iraq and each day an eagle fed on his liver which regenerated overnight to be eight and again the next day. I'm glad we're recording this at lunchtime pretty graphic. I know but you know throughout literature. Prometheus really became this kind of personification. Recent of the human striving for technological advancement and it's inherent potential for unintended consequences and you know I think in many ways as parallels exactly where we stand right now with digital technology interesting <hes> we're GonNa take a quick break now. We're GONNA come back and talk more with amy about this privacy paradox and also some of the important ethical considerations for marketing communications professionals channels to consider so hang tight. We'll be right back and we just WANNA point out to those <hes> listening after that crappy description of permit theus there <hes> that West Virginia the universities online data marketing communications for is the first graduate program of its kind in the country focusing on strategic thinking critical problem solving and informed Decision Making Data Marketing Communications Program Prepares prepares you for your career by learning those innovative tactics that you need to succeed today from award-winning faculty like those on the show today. If you WANNA learn more. It's pretty simple. Just go visit them at W.. V. Dmc M._C. Dot W._v._U.. Dot E. D. You for the Data Marketing Communications Program at West Virginia University. Oh my well. I think we have set to records here today. I don't think anybody's ever talked about prometheus here such detail and secondly the first guest I've I have ever meet who shares my academic back on. I two went to the University of Michigan as an Undergrad and then studied a graduate work at William and Mary so they can't be many of us here in America here. That's fantastic so that's why I actually know those references somehow we with that <hes> background we seem to that's the way we talk. You know that's just our normal conversation here so PAT's here in good company. I'll let you guys continue so before the break. Thanks Paul appreciate it again. You're listening to W._V._U.. Marketing Communications today our guest Amy Teller Marketing Consultant with Maxon Group and I thought leader in digital technology she privacy and ethics so I want to jump back into it before the break <hes> we talked about this privacy paradox. We talked about security and privacy inconvenience so where where do you see this line being seeing and where should this ethical line be redrawn you know I think that's really the pivotal question here. No we're living on the cusp of digital revolution and just like the industrial revolution you know these these changes are causing major disruption and really forcing our hand and deciding where to draw some of these ethical boundaries you know regulations are evolving and that line between what is right right and wrong is constantly shifting <hes> in a satisfied exactly where to draw the line can be tricky <hes> because as my professor of integrated technology at we haven't married that you know it's really more of of age hawk line that can easily be and then do you know but as a general guideline there are basically to he waves in which the ethical boundary can't be violated and I as a lack of transparency you know consumers. Aren't you know often consumers aren't even aware that personal information is being collected at all and second is the unauthorized sharing or disclosure of that information Asian so you know drawing the line on the say you know more conservative side of these is probably you know a course of action but you know as marketers. It's really about finding that balance between collecting liking enough data to target your audience effectively while also maintaining the privacy at your users so where does the onus lay then in protecting sensitive data. Is it with marketers it. Is it with consumers or is that a shared responsibility. You know I agree. I I really think it is both you know and from a marketing perspective marketers have a real moral imperative imperative to safeguard user data in order to protect brand image and today there's a conscious consumer preference for organizations to fulfil a certain level of social and corporate responsibility ability and with consumer's ability to instantly post comments and reviews consumers have more of a voice than ever so maintaining a strong you know ethical standard is is really fundamental to creating the right image in the mind of the consumer <hes> you know but as consumers we also have a certain level of responsibility to protect our private information. You know we should all do things like like read the terms and conditions and privacy at the APP which use which I'd ever do Squirrel Squirrel except I'm guilty guilty of that for sure <hes> you know but we should also a location settings on our mobile devices and check this settings on our social media platforms but you know you know on the other hand. Technology is so pervasive today that really an in order to operate effectively in this digital world. I think you have to have a certain willingness to let some of that. Go Yeah so you can't have it both ways and innocence you know I think what you're saying saying here is that consumers have to take leap of faith in your opinion. What role does trust take in this delicate relationship that exists between brands and consumers? Well you know ultimately the foundation Dacian between a brand consumer is built on trust. You know in a fat trust is breached whether deliberately or accidentally than that relationship is really jeopardized and. Organizations can risk losing their core customer base so in that doesn't change if you think about it between an offline relationship that you may have with a brand or organization and and one that is <hes> one that is online one and that is digital in nature <hes> so that trust is ultimately the foundation for for that relationship what steps though can organization stake to ensure a more ethical approach to their marketing strategies yeah so you know I've touched on a little bit of this but I think it's important to go a little more in depth here. You know I it's critical to keep in mind that just because something's not illegal doesn't mean I mean it's ethical or there won't be repercussions in the future and again I think facebook is the perfect example of this because for years they operated under lack user data privacy and security oversight and now they the major fines to the tune of five billion dollars and they're serving as kind of a cautionary tale that really underscores how the Federal Trade Commission and other federal and international regulatory agencies are really really taking a more aggressive dance against the unethical handling abuser data so you know the first step organizations can take to protect themselves if to establish a strong ethical agenda by first maintaining what I call ethical fluency by keeping up to date on you know the current privacy insecurity regulations second is maintaining transparency on all data collection news you know because consumers really just WanNa be informed about what information is being used for what purpose and to have the ability to control the flow of that information and what this does is it allows consumers the power to take and make informed decisions about participation and that builds brand trust and there is maintaining a standard of truth throughout all marketing communications you know this is where the line can become a little fuzzy because there's a certain level of embellishment on the part of marketers to enhance the positive features of a brand to attract buyers but you a hard line here is when claims become misleading or false and there are a lot of examples of this but our recent example is the class action lawsuit filed against fire festival for false promotion so MHM fire festival. If you remember was the two thousand seventeen music festival in the Bahamas run it really hinged on powerful influence or marketing and it promise like luxury expended experience science but it really ended up being <hes> a complete disaster and they've really misled attendees nicely in fact I federal judge ruled that <hes> influencers who promoted the event it can be subpoenaed and the F._T._C. has since ruled that influencers must clearly state when they're paid for post by using Hashtag at or Hashtag sponsored and I think this really marks a move to <music> holding influencers more accountable <hes> another step that organizations can take is to establish internal code of ethics that centers on first avoiding the slippery slope because Ethical Issues Austin start small you know something that seems harmless like scanning employees accounts for personal and free information because you're curious <hes> but that can quickly snowball into less ethical activities such as sharing that information you know so an order to avoid slipping down that slope. It's really best not to take that first step off the pathway asking you know how they feel if my personal information was being handled this way second to avoid ethical blind spots because you know we tend to overlook unethical behavior when it's not in our best interest and a prime example is how investors ignored Bernie madoff suspiciously consistent returns and you know when confronted with these types of ethical dilemmas best to take pause you you know ask questions and really position yourself judiciously save note and emails. You know get things in writing <hes> to present a well documented cases maybe and last is to avoid was called called Ethical Amnesia and that's when you do things like and inadvertently share confidential information for example you know and so if you have a lapse and judgment like this it's really best take full no responsibility but over all to circumvent these ethical pitfalls. It's basically essential for organizations to I recognize potential ethical ambiguities behind these you said digital technology create a culture of responsibility for protecting personal data be good stewards of that information and then ensure oversight to prevent misuse very interesting the ebony other advice for emerging professionals in this space anything else that you want to add or any key takeaways as we as we wrap things up here. It's just really important to create this culture of responsibility. You know <hes> an awareness to spot unethical behavior and then the tools to prevent it from escalating and it's just I think it's always better to you know walk on the more conservative side of the line because it's better to be safe than sorry very great advice great insights here amy. Thank you so much for spending time with us today and thank you for listening to W._V._U.. Marketing Communications today from all of us here at West Virginia University opie found today's episode food as informative as I have until next time. Take care of yourselves and stay safe on that tight rope thanks again.

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Episode 161: John Hates Baby Yoda

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Episode 161: John Hates Baby Yoda

"Products you know yourself up by your bootstraps eliminated as an idiom to describe the christly farfetched or impossible task and welcome back to zero credits. The show we talk about my name's holiday okay. Henry and my name's holiday John Together or holiday Henry John Kevin ask you to discuss the jingling bells of the Cultural Zeitgeist here and this holiday holiday themed season of zero credits. The whole season job. There's the word to describe the feeling of autumn and that is autumn. No I feel like I'm intro. Episode like Prairie Home Companion. Yeah this is. NPR One is the word for four winter her. Oh I think it's called cold as balls. It's real cold This is something that everyone loves to hear about. His people discussing the weather. But how how. Come and go to be eighty-five degrees one day and then thirty to the next. I don't know I think it's what they say about the the weather any. Have you ever have you ever been to another city. I have and you know you've been another city to come under the weather and then like a native from that city Ali says the same thing lots. What's the weather so you go? You got it. That's what they say about. Whether in this place if you don't like it wait five minutes. And and that's it across the entire entire planet I think that's even set in the molten core of the. Yeah Yeah some rock men are like well. That's that's the thing I think that's what it is. I wonder I gotta wonder who the person is because I heard this in our old town. I've heard this in New Orleans ones and I've heard this now in Austin where I'll be listening to like a local radio station on put in like a bomb and the bubble. Be Like you know they say about Austin weather. If you don't don't like wait five minutes it'll change. You know they say what New Orleans weather. WHO's the person who here's someone pitches? I ride go. I've never heard that before more. That's the craziest. The maze are totally encapsulated. What it's like to live in this one city? This is like nothing else that anyone has ever experienced. It's speaks truth. This is true war thing. The crazy thing is it's like you used to have to travel level to get all these dumb jokes that are repeated in literally every city on the Goddamn planet but then like I don't know some British guy created the Internet. Yeah Darpa Aw Darpa Chief Durban rescue the Darpa chief. Darpa chief for metal gear solid admitted the Internet. Yeah and now just MOMS will post those jokes onto their fees and you can literally scroll down and you see a bunch of different repeated jokes of different city names and it's Kinda like Nobody's special. I used to think before the Internet not before the Internet used to think before the proliferation of like generalized social media. You know back when I exist on chat rooms for mud's only fans accounts said you love only fans accounts back. You know the old days of the Internet pre-ticked doc. I used to imagine that everyone was like unique and brilliant and have like their own like unique spark but now if I scroll through facebook facebook and I see people like older people that haven't been friends with for a long time just like post a picture of like some. Hey and then there's like a it's like me my king size bed and they're like Mary Christmas. Hope that doesn't offend view. Yeah I can't even picture what their brain looks like. I don't be smooth horrible. Yeah there. There's this phenomenon on the Internet. I don't know if you've been around the Internet like I have but there's this thing called means this where like it's following you so far. It's like it's like a joke format that people iterative on and the fits a bunch of different from things and the thing is people like to say like Oh I don. I don't know what I would do without means it's such a good thing that means we're created and the thing is it's not like they were always there the means we just didn't recognize them as such because when they were in a visual format because the people were just repeat jokes they heard and that would be a mean so it was like. Oh you don't like the weather sunny. Well that's what I like about Nebraska. You you wait five minutes it'll change. That was a me. He was sharing me. Yeah he was meaning. Yeah and time before philosopher after and all all the other now defunct formats of means. I'm not cured on my game son. S You know before the age of Tom. Tom From Tom and Jerry peeking out from behind a girder making a weird face. Yeah I remember. There was a time when a mean was called an image macro. That was a a very brief time on the Internet but luckily for us a French philosopher came up with a phrase or like a term that meant to people having the same idea in the same time in different parts of the world which he co called me Okay and then the Internet took that and was like. Oh yeah add repeated jokes. They're memes. Yeah that's not true but language evolves and speaking of repeating jokes this week our podcast sponsored by the fresh crisp taste of Hans pills. That's what it's called German style pills ner from real ale brewing take real aero- Real Ale brewing company we have finished and in its entirety the torpedo extra. PA We will never drink again. Dan Brewed Right. Here in Austin or new braunfels Blanco Blanco Blocker Lonzo Blanco Longo Blanco. No it's actually delicious. It's actually Krista refreshing like I described. Yeah it's call it a brightly hoppy and flavorful man's best friend because of the small all dog. The dog dogs agree. I can get into a deeper rabbit hole about like brewery iconography. Yeah let's just blow up some Austin institutions. Okay so like the state like the cat. Let's just blow some Asja. Let's blow sustained institute. Some Austin Into Institutions Austin area craft breweries your like your fourth tap their their beer cans or all over the place in terms of their autistic direction. You have your real ales. They're all largely the same. But this little like medallion figure big year where this is a dog. That's different it's A. There's Austin beer works just have the same Kane in different color schemes circuit while I was about to speak to that. There's this thing in Texas brewing where you'll have a black stripe or a dark colored stripe across the top of the Kellyanne. Dan that says just the name Brewing Company and then center on the CAN is the name of the beer and they'll be little iconography down the center like this dog awed. An AAs beer works as a lying that kind of tease off. I don't know why that is other than it's a very clean Chris. Chris Design and maybe they went to the same sort of graphic design house to do. Both it might just be like It might be a mean might be. Yeah Oh we ever you're in that classic standup from the late. Ninety s early two thousands. If I've been me might be mean you're a picture of Kermit the Frog Sipping Tea Matthew me in my day a million. I don't remember if he was southern or if he was Australia Yama Moi volume by a my new my by my buddy John as we enter this third heard week of December hold on Shirt Week of December is gone. Yeah as we enter. What can only be described? Does the holiday times. I think we would be doing a disservice to the podcast if we didn't speak about holiday traditions. Oh like what. Well for instance. Did you know that it's a fifty. Plus year old tradition Sweden to watch a specific Donald Duck cartoon at exactly three PM on Christmas Eve. Approximately half the country tunes into watch every year. Wait it's it's a specific Donald Duck cartoon is one where he's a Nazi. It is that want though. I was very concerned It is From all of us to all of you or as it is known in a different language Zuckerberg okay very good tally off. Hawn's Wagner Oscar Gold or Donald Duck and his friends. Wish you a merry Christmas okay. Okay probably the second one is what I would go with. Why decided to the sweet? Oh sorry the severe again and you said that was Sweden eaten. I said that was Sweden. Incredible Hey with some others. Did you know this is a really interesting thing that I don't have a source for but I know Oh because I have certain interests this Japan on Christmas Eve it is. It is tradition to go get a bucket of Kentucky. Fried Chicken hold on what now in Japan it is tradition to go out on Christmas Eve and get a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken Second. Why you can't just say that I don't know why I was GonNa explain the Donald Duck thing but us for more? Yeah I What put look in Japan? I can look it up real quick. I didn't realize we're doing that. No I'm just amazed mazed no I was looking at a different holiday. Hold on hold on. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA get down to the bottom of this. This is coming from business insider. We have to get down to the bone own of this like the bone of the chicken. Yeah boneless in which case you ate the balls. KFC has become a Christmas tradition in Japan. This is largely thanks to Takeshi. Okada got a man doing so the catchy I was really really really knocked a casio the par Takeshi ocar Ogasawara Nice Juara Takeshi. Okawara the first. KFC Rush On. Japan is nothing I can practice foreign names. I guess just read Takeshi. Okawara over and over again. These days Japanese people could end up waiting in long lines if they don't preorder their Christmas meals. KFC On my God. They have to have the preorder slip or else they won't get their KFC and the steel bookcase over the last four four decades KFC has managed fried chicken synonymous with Christmas and the country an estimated three point six million Japanese families eat KFC during the Christmas season reported the BBC millions of people whether long lines to order fried chicken weeks in advance to carry on the tradition addition. It was a marketing thing. Oh yeah I figured I have another tradition. That I'd like to tell you about well. Is it bird related. Kosovo we got Donald Duck and fried chicken it is unfortunately not Burg related. A theme has been broken now. I don't know if this one takes replace some the holidays but it is a holiday that I recently learned about dating back to I think the fifteen hundreds oh right around the time that the Spanish is your model was defeated. What are you waiting for me? Now let's just assume that takes place during Christmas because why the fuck not Have you ever heard of Georgia country or state state country okay. Have you ever heard of Gori Georgia. Is Gory spelled G. R. Y. G.. uh-huh our I okay. Gori Georgia No. Maybe you might know gory. Georgia's most famous son one Stalin as in the Russian man. Yes the Russian Man Stalin now. Gory has a holiday that I was reading about because I've been reading about the life and times of Young Stalin. Gory is a city. The in Georgia. It is all right now on the same page. Now Gory has a hat wasn't Russia. You other Russian was born in Georgia Eh. Any ruled over Russia. Yeah Oh dude. Read about stalls like read about his hundreds of bank robberies Stalin Stalin calling the early Stalin's life ruled. Some people could argue late stolid kind of ruled but not like a cool way new holiday tradition for Henry reading about Stalin on December eighteen. It is not it is not a bad tradition to get into It's fine but if you know them in Gori worry Georgia you know that. They have an annual holiday. That I don't know why this was the case. I think gory was like a military training. Village okay back now. Have you ever heard of a little movie called the purge. Yes you not only have. I heard about it but John. We've talked about it at length multiple times. John's on this podcast one day out of every year in Gori Georgia apparently dating back to the fifteen hundreds. There would be one day where all all fighting is legal. Okay so fighting yes not like murder people would die but it was as a result of five. Yes not just. It's like planned assassinations. All fighting would become legal now. You might say this sounds like a town from that movie with the arm wrestling over the over the top. Now you might be saying yourself in a town where all fighting is legal for one day. Who says what goes is and what doesn't go the boxers? Clearly what goes doesn't go is the purview solely of drunken priests amazing. A few. You priests in Gori Georgia would get rip roaring drunk and I guess I don't know put on special hats. Don't it to denote that. They were priests and they Louis Punch me. I'm a priest and I'm drunk. They would be the referees and the book that I'm Reading Young Stalin by forget the author's name Uh says that anyone who had a dispute dirty the fights would grab a drunken priest to consult with them on who was in the wrong interesting so that's my favorite holiday tradition. Asian assuming it happened around the holidays. There's no way to tell impossible. What's your next bird fact? They weren't all related. The Birds Zaba theme has died. The theme has died. I don't feel so those were the Okay I only had the Swedish woman prepared tired and the Japanese one was off the Dome so very quickly. I ruled like worldwide holiday traditions. and Man I don't WanNa like Shit on anybody's anybody's holiday traditions. But we were going for like not boring. Here's the every holiday initially started as one one Caveman Ada cat one time and that's why every year we set someone on fire on this day but everything gets dumb down to a point where that holiday where that caveman ate a cat as this is the holiday tradition where you bring a hot loaf of bread. To your grandmother's there's hard. Yeah they suck you know what sucks. Almost every tradition after Halloween Times. I was about to say doc as far as worldwide holiday traditions. Go I think the Hispanic Cultures Day of the dead has it life. That's that's that's your standard. That's setting the bar for holiday traditions. Like you make a path of leaves so that the dead can visit your home you put up. You're a threatened us or you can. The dead can be remembered across the leaf bridge. I'm just referencing cocoa. I hope that was accurate. But you put up sweets for the skeletons the eating all this. It is still a guitar for the Tomb of a famous guy. It's pretty metal as fuck. Yeah and like that's what we should aim for for a holiday traditions. And I just WANNA say. We belong to an English speaking culture. That has a very famous ghost story told around Christmas. This a Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens that has multiple ghost in it. And there's been additions of I. I think that is putting on a new one this year. Because why the fuck not is it. FX Or if exact one okay so is that that okay just all serious business on Christmas as a humbug. Christmas L. is unbiased of bugs. But how in in this. This goes back to Victorian area there at times like this has been around for a couple hundred years. How the hell do not like worship a ghost on Christmas so now hourly up we gotta put the chains up? So Jacob Marley can find his way to fucking eat the rich lay down. How you you look? Even some people's like Santa Clauses get it right the Germans with their their their vander snatch no on the chrome dumb Nyas campus trump loose. But there's a night for like it happened recently. crackpots knocked campus. Not where he comes and kidnaps the bad children. Yeah he kicks them. Put them in chains and kidnaps them and then they're in chains. Jacob Marley can find them yes every year Jacob Murphy asked the free the German in kids now I I just think that if you're GonNa do a holiday aim weird with it wouldn't be you and I are part of a tradition and culture. Were holidays are pretty fucking. Tame mm especially Christmas I okay. I don't have a great relationship with Christmas because once I got an early stages of like consumerist humorous stuff and I got into like my teens. Christmas became much less of a big deal with my family. We never had a ton of money and like I never had a ton of enjoyment like spending time with my family because my family relationships in that great but now that I'm like kind of saddle them certainly get get back into the Christmas thing. 'cause there's a warm niceness to it but God I wish it was a little weirder. I know like there have been attempts. Tints the nightmare before Christmas. which is like let's give gutless? Let's give Goth kids something to celebrate around this time of year. But I I want I need something to Brit to perk me up because likewise when Christmas rolls around. I don't get excited. I don't feel that warm feeling saying that every Christmas movie kind of like mandates that people around Christmas feel like my family's fine. We've been through rough stuff probably better now than what we were any just divorced from them. I just get sad at Christmas. I don't know what what's Bat I've got Christmas. Effective destroys your dad. I've got I've got Chad. Jan The ancient Christmas is supernatural. Yeah Yeah and I've got the Christmas Virgin Jab Jab no the Christmas version of the Christmas Chad. Oh Gotcha the medium to people have the same idea. Oh God the wave form disappeared. Oh No it's fine. Christmas ghosts kind of like sneak. Its way into our podcast to be like Bush who watch it shows you how to me you know I. I dare say that. A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens is a much more commercially viable dynamic and interesting the Christmas story then anything that Christmas is about. Currently how can we show this this versions of this movie every year. I mean you got the Disney version when you got the muppet version. You got the one with Sir Patrick Stewart which is phenomenal. But the the message for a Christmas Carol is the same every year. If you're like a miserly rich dude who doesn't share their wealth. You're GONNA die alone. I think I think I figured out why that is part of the American consciousness. I mean we perpich perpetrator. Pepe trick week goes forward and property. Harper Tutti corporate to perpetuate it. Oh my God is not a good talking night I apologize. But we perpetuate the story year after year and all of its difference renditions musical musical versions of it. What have you but somehow the message Because maybe the message is only consumed by the masses and it's not consumed by the people don't pay taxes taxes. Yeah I need Linden Wim. Dan Manda to do version of the Christmas. Carol that's insanely popular. And and so the rich see it. 'cause oh just like only the rich saw him only the rich could see Hamilton. Yeah so yeah. So the ritual go see it in the learn learn that they need to pay taxes. That'd be great. It's got a star of like a weird conglomerate every rich person so it's GonNa be like at the composite of fifty old white men in like maybe two women. Yes and they're gonNA learn all these live lessons about giving money and Oh and wealth distribution Evans your Beza Ebeneezer Bezos. And the ghost of Christmas future is just a Bernie Sanders impersonator going you. I need to give eighty percent of your wealth. I was just trying to find a way to do the Bernie Sanders of Christmas futures. This is your gravestone. This is here to imply that you have died in the future in a Memento Mori kind of way you will die you will people will take from you and you will all not die surrounded by anyway birdie saying this. We're going to go back and you gotta learn a lesson you know what's crazy. How many different versions of a Christmas Carol have you seen like growing up? Probably like a dozen so the one that sticks with me the most is the Disney one. With like Mickey Mouse and Scrooge mcduck as ebeneezer scrooge urge and the weird one and that is the ghost of Christmas future shows up and Ebony whose grave is this in a whole scene plays out but it doesn't touch on what the but the the actual story touches on it just leaves? Oh that's your grave and you're going to die. Oh it doesn't do. The part were the estate is being divvied air by where is being torn apart by but but yeah yeah so that always let me a weird taste in my mouth. That all know if you're if you're a you're not a good person you're going to die. which is it's gotTa Happen Anyway? So I think the the more of the Disney ones like. Get it while you can. Yeah it's like yeah be rich until you die which I mean Disney has followed to a T.. He didn't he didn't die no he. He he emerged from Snow White he did. They became more powerful than ever. Here's a quick question. I know the already basically answered this but if you could rewrite Christmas oh so that all of our feelings. Holiday traditions are still largest same presents togetherness whatever the fuck. Yeah but if you could put all of our Christmas traditions and our worship of Christmas and basically all of our ideals of Christmas if it could instead of what it's about right now ever that is be about one movie or book okay. The Christmas movie or Book Nines Christmas Time Movie. Be Your Book. What would it be because I can tell you mine? I Wa- okay. I want our Christmas. Forget Lord and Savior. Jesus stay at the the same time. Okay three two one home alone fuck mine would be frozen the original the original Through frozen to in there as well that Christmas movie frozen is it is a one hundred percent. Look at all these lofts. It's Christmas time. Hold on wait eight backup. If we're talking Christmas. Time gotta be die hard. Well you said you're the over when he said move your book. You didn't mean Christmas movie your book. I think you said Christmas time Christmas. Time is what I said so hard. Yeah dire takes place over Christmas. I know John if anyone who's a tighter. Hi takes place at Christmas. It's me I know I was there I I. Is there a Tony Plaza. The first to die hards both happened around Christmas. The first one the nightmare capitalism the second one. The nightmare is air travel and also bad sequels. But let's not touch it. Yeah dire three was good though never saw it's in the summer No die hard. I will everyone gets a machine. Gun Ho Ho. Everyone has to run to the Christmas trees. Ashgar feet over broken glass. Shoot the glass. So everyone gets to repeat that factoid about a a Alan Rickman where they told him they would drop of rain and they dropped him onto instead. I pretty much every time I watched that movie awesome. Have a Washer with before so all during that. Hey did you like. Yeah Yeah we we all know. I've seen die hard on inseparable person before your take away. My Name's John Apparently. Yeah we didn't know each other. Yeah no I Every single time. Yeah it's so it's some of the consciousness. I don't know that I could stop myself from. I'm telling you that factoid. Mandatory that upon viewing of diehard. One person in the room has to say it or else Hans Gruber Rob You. This is the traditions conditions we start. This is the tradition perfect Hans. Gruber is the screwdriver. I viewed the scrooge the GRANDCH- No. He's this Gruber Gruber Hans Gruber. Ruger is the campus. He's the crap he's GonNa Steal Your Nakagomi Plaza over knocked gruber knocked anyway. What's yours alright? Alright so growing up. I've you know I've seen them all Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer a Tanna Claus is coming to town. Which is that's the movie? My wife insist exists. I have never seen it. The puppets. The clinician yeah doesn't exist. Oh totally does assertive processing July. Here's my answer because my answer is the right one. The year without a Santa Claus is hands down. The Best Christmas movie forever was. Is that the one where Santa Claus dies. It is the one not the Santa Claus. Yeah no no no no. That's not the clause dies. Example is murdered by Tim Allen who then by the transit of property of Santa Claus must become. Oh can we start we go. Yeah can we talk about how the Santa Claus sets up the chronicles of riddick rules. It really does he kill. Keep what you kill and in this case you keep Santa Claus number one two things I wanNA. Let's say the first of the Santa Clause 'cause we Disney loss locked up movie. We have dizzy. Plus Allison is showing me all the movies that I've never seen that the mole Disney Corporation is responsible before watch the first toy story last night. Holds up look good but doesn't look like early playstation graphics now it looks bad yeah But it holds holds up and comedic. Timing is still good but also on the original Santa Claus is a horror movie. It re cut that movie to be a horror movie. It's a dude who is turning going into Santa Claus against his. Well there's a scene where he grows a babe way to Amir and screams and tries to tug it off. Yeah also. He tries to remove his beard. All right anyways the Santa Claus thing. Have you seen the Santa Clause two. Yeah uh he makes a toy version of self. It's a toy version of the turns into a Nazi. Yeah the Santa Clause two has hard core fascist. I imagery in it these movies not one of the biggest portrayals of my childhood was the the Santa Clause three the escape clause which details details how he could get out of it decades after it's way too early. It's like wait a second. You can't introduce this now. It's way too late. Wait sorry Martin. Short I have not seen the third one. Don't stop it. You know. People said the same thing with the Santa Claus do anyway. I'm just saying run. Don't walk to Awasa the Santa Clause Two all right so I've got another answer but Sir pulling back to my first answer. The you're out of Santa is it goes missing. It's the same. Clinician style is both a Santa Claus is coming to town Reindeer like it's the same studio but they introduced to fantastical people heat miser. Hell Yeah and the frozen guide who I don't remember a cold miser cold master but no I I wanna live in a world where Santa's got competition there's other deities that we could choose to like worship like there's a Santa Fe action there's the heat miser faction there's cold dude call dirt all dude faction you got. The people who follow cold dude would know his name. I wonder heat miser is Mr Heat. Miser were non Vanna China no I totally think competing deities makes so much sense or Christmas. Rain back. The Pantheon now. Are you familiar hillier to run this by you. Are you familiar with a little movie. Called the life and adventures of Santa Claus no voyager heat miser and cold dude. No but I would like to. If you're talking about other deities. I would like to posit this one as a potential alternate to the without Santa Claus. Okay I'll because if you've never heard of the life and adventures of Santa Claus let me just read the setup for this movie off of Wikipedia. I want you to follow me here I am going to. I'm I'm listening long ago. In the forest of Bercy a council meeting is held where the Great Act tells the story of Santa Claus to the leaders of the immortals hoping hoping to persuade them to grant clause immortality through the mantle. Live of immortality about sixty years earlier. The Great Act finds an abandoned baby in the snowy woods on the board of the forest. He gives it to the Lion Shiga to raise he kerr. However after hearing about the discovery of the infant missiel the wood nymph steals steals from from? She goes to the great AC begging him to let her raise the child. After initial concern that humans brought into the force which is against the law of the Great Act allows allows missiel to raise the trial. will she agree stays to protective to seal names. The child clause. It is people debating and putting Santa Claus on trial for his immortality demi-gods in the forest of Birdseye picture that article. I WANNA I WANNA look at it to see. See to see if I'm familiar with it. This is the box are saying I do not not. It's it's genuinely good. That was pretty neat. It's like I like when like Demi Gods Deities like bid they get together and his fight with each other. That's it's more interesting than putting the tree up. Yeah and covering that were ten. Social presence appeared because the only immortal we know of decides to get presence once a year. I feel like there's one immortal there's gotta be more. There's no conflict and the conflict is the seat eight of a great story. Anyway you said you had an alternate. I haven't alternate answer are you are you. Are you John You ever seen the Nineteen Ninety Eight Cult Classic Jack Frost the horror movie or the the not the hord okay. The what's his name. Something Keaton Michael Michael Keaton. Yeah this is this is can I just read the Synopsis To this movie. Yes please as a Tory musician cleaning cleaning to dreams of Stardom Ageing Rocker Jack Frost Michael. Keaton never had much time for his wife. Gabby Kelly Preston and young son Charley. Joseph Cross a year after Jack's tragic death Rx on Christmas Day. Hey Charlie plays mournful tune of his father's harmonica muscles surprise the elder cross's magically brought to life as a snowman. Oh Man on the family lawn Jesus given a second chance Shirley inject struggled to make up for Maas time cats in the cradle points. That's Incredible now they want to live in a world. Where if I fuck up my whole shit yes there? There is a chance that my son or daughter will play a psalm. My her Monica yes. And that will bring me back to life. In the form of an elemental mental snowman. A crackling fire are any of the holiday time elemental things cold wind awesome mistletoe. Yeah just the weird fruity part of his own. Show up now. That's this is a real fact. I saw both the Horror Movie Jack Frost and the For a Family Friendly Movie Jack Frost similar timeframe when I was about ten years old the Michael Keaton Jack Frost gave me ten times more nightmares. was that the the The anthropomorphic snowman. The it was his kind phase. It's real a really fucked me up There's a very fun thread. That happened very recently on twitter with Apollo left Tonkin's Oh polyp talk. Is the show friend of the Shell. Paul F Tompkins. I was in Jack Frost. He had one line. That line was cut so for a second. You can see follow talk. DOC is in a bar Michael. Keaton talks to someone next to him and he was going to have a line. That like repeat like rebelled and he pitch the line and Michael. Keaton goes. What the Fuck Andro it got cut from the movie poor polyp talk instead of my factoid about Jack Frost so it's a lot like there will be blood but Paul Tompkins remained in that movie? Oh is he played the killer. He's in the Little Council thing where Daniel Plain view gets all mad. I'm thinking of no country for old men. They're movies that are loved by a certain kind of person. Watch the one with the milkshake. That's the one I didn't see. That's the one I'm talking about. I didn't see Blueblood I didn't see no country for old blood amy sedaris yeah. She's great. She's in the middle is how much more did you WanNa talk about Christmas. Here's the thing about Christmas. John Never Really. Hey wait holiday tag. Yeah Holiday Time Evert said Chris. Yeah how do we want to talk a holiday time. I guess not much more I just want. I wanted to be cooler. You know. Yeah okay. Allender will end on this note. Family Guy had a Jew uh-huh one joke. Maybe in their Christmas episode where there was a special that aired on television called Kiss samsa Santa uh-huh maybe maybe made. The world was ready to for like a cooler take on Christmas. We like the chain. Smokers Save Santa. No like twenty one pilots twenty one pilots say says of two guys. I thought they were twenty one. I thought they were twenty one. I really relate to break it to you this way. Oh my God is only two of wait hold on. Did you think that three doors down the three doors down the At night I thought there were three dogs. Yeah do you think cat. Stevens was a cat. She's not he oh will power. I'm thinking Pat. Oh Okay Steven Steven X.. Minutes are a fleet. Mac would all right I just you know. The capitalists have had they have everything Give me cool. Christmas do another type type of nightmare before Christmas. May Christmas cool again. Yeah makers school. I want Santa and a leather jacket on a sweet ass hog thirty to forty feral sweet odds he wants to be on thirty to forty sweet as hogs tug tug. tuck talking off the beard the beard beard that 'cause that's clearly that's the problem with Santa. Remove the beard. Santa gets a lot cooler. Sam's got a Lotta interesting shit going onto that beard. He's got tattoos. Oh yeah the bottom. twos a middle fingers locking into a beard to appoint point has a frowny face on it. And you can't ask him about it because if you ask him about he'll straight up kill you you know what. The attorney went to a snowman and so you can reconnect if your son. Yeah what the the greatest gift you have. No Son aghast astute taxes fact for one night to file just a snowman sweating wedding over a pile of ninety nine because the real gift is off doesn't happen on December twenty fifth of happens on April Fifteenth April. They've that's moved. Move Chris to tax time look at all of our other. Holidays are based on the positions of the moon and so is taxed. I'm I'm it is it's when it's when the moon is in its most actuarial now. I had a perfect segway earlier. Let's circle back and pretend like we didn't do that. Pulse for the past ten minutes. Now the perfect segue was you mentioned. Amy Sedaris Amy Sedaris. She plays a cat in a bow. Jack Yes then everything anything else to now. I mentioned she was in the mandatory of. That's a show on Disney plus who were not sponsored by unfortunately we are not sponsored by Disney plus Now I wanted to talk about the main delorean because I think maybe I talked about previously on this show. Cut The clip of me talking a lot. A lot of the delorean here and clip. That's ill treat for me to edit and later man I wish we had an editor. That'd be really nice. Ace just imagine it but these things I want to talk about with the man. Laurie him both pretty. I'll go with the one. That probably has the least going on I. How do you feel about and this is something that I'm remiss to discuss because I feel like a could feed further into the perception that I'm what some people might call Kerma Jim? You hate it the mandatory to hate the men the Laurie. No I love of it. You come to me on the day of my podcast and tell me you hate them into Laurean now God do I really WanNa talk about this. This is something that's so so ingrained in the Zeitgeist in popular culture. I don't like baby yoga not as a character and I think he makes total total sense in the show and I love that it's a puppet. It's great yeah every I can't watch this enough. Well let's pause this because the Zeitgeist that's just really not baby yoga to the point where it's like Disney like. Don't worry the merchandise is coming soon. And it's kind of like. How did you not see this coming? Yeah but Sawyer. The the Internet has has eaten up baby yoga to the point where like they were posting gifts too early and Disney was like axing gifts. That's because they're like copyright which is not a thing ridiculous so i WanNa hear I do I want. I'm interested in your take. Why do you not like baby yoder because I feel alike number one anything that reaches a lovely total cultural saturation? I start to get repulsed by almost immediately A. But that's because I feel like when something especially something that's from a creative work reaches a point of like total saturation. The actual meaning of of that thing starts to get lost it becomes kind of like a Shibboleth like it becomes like becomes like a totem and it stops. Being the thing was awesome starts being part of the capital C. Culture. Why it's kind of like it starts to get into a little deconstruction ISM? It stops being itself inserts becoming coming a signifier of something yeah. That's exactly what it is and I feel like we took something that at the end of that first episode. I didn't have like a huge reaction to who others of Aby Yoda because I wasn't one hundred percent sold on the show. I thought it was cool. But it didn't like blow my mind you were supposed to one hundred percent. Have your mind blown the baby. Yoda I'm in such a protective place. Defensive Place About Star Wars right now. I'm very skeptical about everything but I mean in hindsight great reveal huge deal like I watched the episode the second time and got chills. But that's because my guard was down. We've only seen two of that species. There's Yoda and then there's the other one the lady one. Yeah there's a Yoda. NFL mostly two of them. Yeah yeah this whole time. So it's a huge deal. Yeah and I worry because it's something that's like reached such saturation in in popular culture that every time I see it I just increasingly kind of disconnect from it and also the tough thing about it. Is this part of the charge that you get from watching something like a lone wolf uncover or anything. where the the concede as this thing is precious and soft and easily horrible? It's fragile yeah like one of the most compelling character dynamics you can create is is to create a character that is unstoppable but have him in the care like taking care of something that's fragile because then you have like. Yeah you're not. You're not afraid of the main delorean being able to handle himself in a fight but you are afraid of his ability to protect this thing you care about and you have sympathy for typically. It's like a child or pet. Yeah and with it being like so huge in the culture and it becoming like such a huge thing. I know they're never gonNA put a bullet in baby. Yoda's head in an episode of the main delorean Ryan. But you start to feel like it's stopping to feel to me as if it's a character holding a character and more like it's a character holding a symbol. Oh Yeah like the mandatory and is now carrying around a mean. And it's starting to take me out of the fictional really Unpleasant way because I like that show a lot and Syria interesting interesting because I don't want to spoil anything but there's a moment in a rivera recent episode and episodes drop in between now and when this comes out because the next episode drops on Wednesday for some reason what yeah next episode drops tomorrow for no reason why I don't know why but is it ruins my a whole week in recent episode. There's a moment where you think. Oh maybe yoga and then of course yeah stuff happens Babes on danger and that so you can only do that so many times before. It's like okay either kilmer down. Yeah I don't I'm not you're not. You're not fooling anybody we've seen what baby iota can do. Yeah you know I mean my thing is if the man delorean in his this at this is one hundred percent just just going to be a lone wolf and cub scenario with the mandatory and Babe Yoda throughout the entire series then on kind of the premises already sort of wearing thin. Yeah because like there's the immediate danger. The immediate situation drew everybody. Nobody in people thought. Oh this could be like this big huge thing and then you backed off and made it out no we were doing an episodic western the entire time. Yeah the first few episodes. Oh cintas more connective tissue than a typical Western would. And so now that we're in the episode thing it's got iota and maybe baby will have significant vacant moments but now more focused on the men. delorean's journey I wanNA know what happens with him. He he's he's been he's kind of like exiled from his people's people had to find a new ground to return to. I'm caught up in that culture. Yeah the the introduction I I I know nothing about mandatory and cold. I pure EST in that I think only movies cal I mean. You're you're not terribly alone on in not knowing anything. Momentum laureate because for the most part made a lorry in the lower the mandate lore is has largely been stricken from the record what has existed hosted has existed in like cartoons and a little bit in the movies but like May delorean. History is something that has a ton of room to be fleshed. Oh so there's not a lot to know I even tried to look it up because it's like there were things like A. Oh no weapons are. Weapons are part of my religion. Region has like all I wanNA know about. This is a religion I wanna I WANNA learn about. I WanNa know about religion so rarely comes up and stalwarts other than when they call the Djeddai a religion login for no reason. Yeah never comes up again. I can't comes up weirdly enough in the last Jedi win. Mark Hamill causing your Eric Kaluka calls at our religion again. So yeah the the official is a new hope. And then the last Jedi the only two canonical and they're the best ones rapid I refer to jeopardize. There's the best least problematic ones. What can I say but I wanNA know how can their religion persist in what is basically basically a hopeless desolate like form of existence? That is the Bruegel Star Wars. And so I went to look it up in my went to like Whoa pedia and all this other place this is an got nothing. Yeah nothing there. Because the history that is cannon and not expand you for or legends as they call legends The the history as it exists is it it's non existent right now. Yeah and that's a shame so I'm caught up with the character of the man delorean Lori and and I'm following him and it seems like Oh okay baby ONA's here too and bay the cute. Yeah they might have had a whole thank. Drop them off at baby. Yoda daycare. And let's get on before day. Yeah because like at this point. Let's just talk about the most recent episode the mandatory because and this is something. That's maybe a bigger part of the conversation is that I feel like the rise of spoiler culture or anti spoiler culture is largely. You could trace it almost perfectly the rise of prestige. CEREAL LINEAR television. Yeah I like stuff. They were watching. Mike Lost Okay like when when television series sorry to be long interconnected interdependent stories That's when spoiling television. became a bigger deal because you could spoil a thing that happens in lost and spoil a season. Yeah because you'd be building towards wears the mantle Orien- television used to be much simpler. A lot of it was was cereal. Disjointed television it's telling a larger story through a series of pretty discreet vignettes. So you know. The first two episodes of season in the last two episodes of the season might have some connective tissue may be got the mid seasons of Stinger. Yeah really going like hiatus for two weeks but largely it was the episode Cop Drama and my Oh you might find find out who killed the cops mom. Yeah and the season finale. And that was the big spoiler thing but week to week. It's like Oh yeah the druggy did it the ruined much. And that's why it's very difficult to spoil show demand. Laurie y think the Mandolin is like such a cool return to form returned to a four not to say that the previous form was better than what we have now but returned to a form of television where you can talk about specific episodes of it without spoiling everything everything like I could tell you interesting. Cool beautiful things about this most recent episode. That have nothing to do with the interesting cool beautiful things that happened in the previous episode. What you the there's a there's a tweet lick there's a tweak to tweet lacks there are two toilets now? The thing about this. Most recent episode is. This is the point where I started to now one hundred percent like drinking the main alluring. Cool eight is very much like the show. I love that they keep a practical wherever possible. It feels like I'm watching Star Wars. It really feels like I'm watching Star Wars. which is I went back and looked at so? I watched a video today on my break at work. You know thirty seven minute video where an archivist from Lucas Arts Lucasfilm talk about every stormtrooper armor. You know normal things you use is your entire break for and I was watching that and they showed clips from like episode to where people like clone troopers. We're just CGI. Oh like that like the culture was were just. CGI and they would like map people's faces but they looked incredibly fake. It's sad Once they pointed out to you know like I have not seen episode two in years. You shouldn't no I mean I am. I saw somebody does a really good fan in it. I think they're all on youtube and they basically move all the bad parts which is to say jar. Dr John Thanks. Yeah it's it's interesting to me to look at those things go like when star wars goes. CGI ages badly and stays as good because practical is look at this and head tentacles. Those are prosthetics no matter how far into the future we go people made those. They'll look good and even when like you could tell how they do it. We're still fascinated by how they did it. Yeah I mean we still go to plays where people have facial appliances. We're not like Oh that guy like actually has horns someone made those horns zillow cool one of the most fascinating things is how buster Keaton did half the things. He did with the Technology Augie that he had in Mike just putting digitally putting in like a pit whereas Buster Keaton us like a painted frame of a pit put in front uh of where he was standing. I kind of like the artistic endeavor of doing it by hand. Better the computer I mean. Look at Tremors there's tremors is a movie tremors ageless. It is almost all practical. The giant worm creatures are practical effects. So it's a movie that is in fact timeless but I don't want to get all weird like tangible practical effects and that's one of the reasons why watching the mandatory and makes me feel like I'm watching star wars there was a A thing that came out recently they didn't have enough of the armor of the stormtrooper armor for one of the episodes of some of the episodes. They wanted to film so they literally called on the five. Oh I yeah the charity slash fan enthusiast group that they dress up as stormtroopers super of various types. Mine English teacher in high school was a tie bomber. And they've they've got like pieces of armor that they've collected over years to do do the full regalia and they and they got to be in the man delorean because they wanted to go all practical and I mean also. The file forced very cool. They've actually some people have replicated. The press forum plastic molds that they used for original stormtrooper stuff very cool. Yeah it's it's I love everything they do all of the things in Star Wars. If you would ask me what I would want to dress up as I always liked the stormtroopers very unfortunate name name I would. I would recommend the look of the storm. Trooper was always so cool. Yeah they were the coolest looking things. Yeah okay known no stormtroopers Wield a lightsaber. But they've got those cool plasma cutter axes someone in stormtrooper armor. No a storm troopers absolutely. We'll the lightsaber game. One Fin people don't like him he's a stormtrooper and he had a lightsaber. He wasn't very good with it anyway. Anyway he ditched his armor. Listen it's fine now. The coolest looking all star wars as part of being a storm Drew Perez de Armor. The coolest look all star. Wars history is someone who is who is where our but does not have the helmet on and maybe AP has a Cape coolest look okay unimpeachable All right so back to this most recent episode of stars. You could go on for eons of other things about it. Let's do that but I'm just saying. Let's go on eons about the beautiful things with this most recent episode. Yeah so in in speaking about the most recent episode there was a point that was made by someone on another podcast. That chain name because we can't well if you'RE GONNA if you're gonNA use their work I would. I would be happy if you would give give them credit anyway. Listen to pod Damn Erica heard of one of the hosts of it tweeted that builders accent indicates that they're kind kind of space boxed however the thing that I was GonNa say about this episode as it relates to the baby. Iota troubles the B. Y.. Not Be as early as the country's tastings yogurt but you know it doesn't matter which country it's just the countries countries a what the fuck. But here's a store T. C. Z.. Y. This can't be yogurt. People say that the country's best yogurt it really means. This can't be yogurt okay. That's what it used to stand and no one can fuck this. Be Yogurt the Yoda. The you know the troubles the baby. Yoda trump travels a lot of so everything that happened in. This episode made me fascinated about the character character of the mandatory and history. Yeah and this is when I started to feel as though it was a little bit formulaic. Which is why I said drinking the main Laurie Kool aid but win win? I'm like oh so. This is the episode. Were Baby Yoda's in payroll and once that resolves it does like a soft resolve throughout the episode and then it's over ver- but at at one point is like yeah. This feels a little formula like even though this most recent episode the mandatory probably one of my favorites. It was very fun because they they they did something. And this is another thing that I wanted to say. In terms of like how the Mandal Lauren can succeed a serial. Will it cereal linear. But it's like not hyper connected show is that it does like a almost like an Avatar of the last heir bender almost like a dragon. Prince almost like a legend of Cora in that every episode has it's like core problem as part of ongoing story. Yeah and the the baby Yoda thing just kind of made me feel like it was a little before me Laic but when you fill out the character of the mandatory and be like Oh cool he's like like involved in this like bounty hunter mandatory guild like a covert and tacit Weiner. Whatever not tattling some other planet oh they named it they did I could? I could not take the name garbage five but then you also see that he had this like massive like criminal Byron like work work working with the highest bidder in the highest bidder is bad people. Yeah and You don't see that a lot in star wars because typically speaking you don't have a lot of alike scoundrels. Typically in your average start was move. You'RE GONNA have one scoundrel to type scoundrels GONNA be At least ancillary to to a protagonist but to see an actual scoundrels Scoundrel Rogov very cool. The one of the coolest parts of stars that rarely gets touched on the under world the underground. There's learn for underworld underworld the underworld stories which are really good And unfortunately our point of view has always been from the light side of the force. Yeah we never really got into the gray that much but the main delorean is absolutely absolutely a person who they don't have a lot of options yet. We never never see Grado ship like we never see the people who are like the nasty people because the palpable thing about star wars. That's enjoyable as you feel like the bad side is winning. Yeah there are like fifty one percent you feel the the rocked and you feel the the average on the greed because star wars is a world where you can see the sends you can see are trained as a world where that does not exist yes star wars is a world of black and white. Yeah but there's this there's business grade raid the entire time. Yeah and only recently. Have we started to really look at it. Within the realm of the movies I think the legends probably do a really good job of that. Whatever the J. Baby yes recipe's Mara jade stuff like that but We've only really seen a glimpse of that. The last Jedi the Kanto bite section where fen gets to see that there is this gray section and because he sees this grey section profiteer enough enough war he finally finds the the courage he needs to stand up for something. Because he's like I'm not going to be like this guy with a stutter. I'M GONNA be my own person. Yeah and stand up and try to kill myself in the Canon and then rose saves. That's a order thing. Yeah but In the mainstream movies. We don't really like Han. We can allude or we can infer sure that he was part of the gray area Then chooses the light fancy gets tangled up in it. But we don't get much of that. And that's what I kind of liked about some elements of the solo movie was that a dealt with the underground. Well Yeah it was definitely it had touches of that and and you've learned that spoilers removing nobody cares about by a darth Maul has been in the under the underworld for a while. And that's what I wanNA see and apparently we're supposed to. I'm supposed to watch some cartoon. Yeah yes not happening make a movie. I mean it's essential to the DNA of Star Wars. It's the story is trying to tell. Is that it is a world of black and white. It's a world of there is a good and there is and evil but the thing is is it's like the eagles like Sharfi like you touch. It leaves a mark now like the the most interesting story is in Star Star. Wars are the ones that are the most human in that it's everyone starts good but everyone gets a little evil enemy. It's like lights. I dark side but it's also like law and like lawlessness so like you you get to see like things are degraded by the ever presence of this like inky blackness this evil this name morality at the center of the universe. And everything's just to fight against that. Yeah so like. It's it's really interesting to see these characters who are just like scoundrels. Yeah who who are rogues who exist in this like band between the actual true evil of the dark side the side that like seeks annihilation versus the like genuine good guys. And you're like Oh like there's such like interior already to these peop- yeah even though all of the Scoundrel people in this most recent episode are scumbags and I love that. They're scumbag room. They weren't redeemable. They shouldn't be like it. It takes it's weird to say this but takes so much it. It takes scutts in television today to just make bad people like bad people bad that there's a there's a merit to containing things to one episode cause to make a bad character just bad but then extend your time to the audience with with them. They start the fall flat. Yeah they'd become one dimensional. But if you you know you containment to a single episode doesn't matter if they're one dimensional they get in they serve the purpose. They're bad for being bad bill. Burr makes a lot of great jokes. Yeah he's really. He's a really great merit to the episode. Can we talk about talk about Bill Burr. No can we talk about the casting on this. Most recent episode Richard. We had bill burr. We had clancy Brown of starship trooper slash carnival fame. We pause. WHO's Ian Carneval? He's the counterpoint to the he's the evil creature gamble the preacher Guy Evil. He's the preacher guy. He was evil. Yeah that's another show about black and white he he's literally he's one of the best parts of carnival. Let's move on but now it's him. It's clancy Brown Richard Iowa from the. It crowd just a great casting. The and the The lady lead you please. The twee lack and the guy who plays the like dock master guy. I know I've seen them in things on their both grades. I I feel like bill. Burr was given licensed to say things that people don't get to say in universe like Oh yeah he was an imperial troop and then like the man. No kind of looks at him as I. I wasn't wasn't a stormtrooper. Yeah it's like because stormtroopers going to good aim. Call somebody at Tweeden. Because they're twix. No one would say that because people I just know he said one of Oh he made a gun reference he did. Oh maybe you're gone gone under there and it's like he gets BEC- nick I guess because he gets he's a comedian he gets to say all of them observational things about the universe that nobody gets to say and it works because people would point out. That guy talks weird. Yeah if any other character said that they couldn't get away with it but such great makeup. I love the bill Burr. There was in it doing down. Shit being like hyper aware of the situation I I love that. It was like totally encapsulated in his Krizan ship I love that it was manned by droids so the stakes were known but then it throws in a good episode really good and because of the time because it takes place when it takes place I can believe that yeah ex wings. Were totally show up and try to police situation. 'cause they're now the the peace camper does is your public. Yeah if it happened during wartime. There's no way they would show up and shoot up a random space station. Yeah I mean all all they know is there's a distress beacon I gun ships being launched so weapons. Free Dog. There was a there was a moment where I knew that That me and my girlfriend are on the same page about the main delorean because when the lockdown happens on the prison ship yeah she was like get and we all knew what was what's happening. We all knew. That's that's the power of the main delorean elling. What everyone knows and playing with that? It's a good show. which if you could just cut out the baby iota stuff? There needs to be a portion of time where you separate the Baby Aby Yoda from the mandatory in a few episodes. So this this whole there's two left. Yeah now I'm sad. I don't WanNa Watch TOWANDA and vision. I don't care about that. I don't care about marvel movies. They were I don't care about her fucking Ripka male non. Johnny got to be in the fucking attorneys. I don't care about marvel movies because they ended marvel movies ended and I'm happy that they're over and I don't care about anything else but star wars ars okay into I. Don't care a Wanda envision you don't have to. I'll watch it uh I'M GONNA Watch. VR Mandal Oregon's over Disney plus. Buchan figured it out and they're only going to have one tent pole show running at a time and they'll have a perfect sucks. It's such a perfect view. They figured it out his marketing at its Zirkin ruutel ten episodes of the show. Everyone's talking about eight eight. The eight episodes of the show rooms time eight episodes of the next show. Everyone's talking about there'll never be overlap because they don't WanNa like compete against them so they did so smarter. They don't WanNa Netflix. This is a crazy thing. They don't WanNa be Netflix. Wannabe Disney plus Disney plus losses. We're going to have one show like dominates the site guys. It's such a smart strategy. Because they're like what's the thing everyone's talking about the new Disney thing Eh. What how does it serve? Step two of those happening at the same time. Although it was competing with watchmen. This entire time as watchmen of Disney notes. DC but it was on HBO. And also I've watched all of it now. I'm watched any of it. The true what they say it is is true what they say. God Damn as the watchman I was hoping it wasn't true with they said I don't want to talk about it. The only thing on talk. I'll say to you as a friend right now. Doc I like it. It's probably the best thing Damon Lindelof has ever done. If there's ever a season two it'll be the worst thing. David Levy on has ever done Tom. They've openly said that they. I know I know what they say. I know what they say but on the site for. Hbo In the last episode. Says Season Finale. Not Series Finale I I know for fact that there there's a pretty hot tak- go around you know short for opinion. That Watchmen is a series. That never should have gotten a sequel In this the sick the best sequel it could have possibly gotten and absolutely there should not be a sequel to it today. They pulled off the most. Just impossible trick and fiction in that they made a sequel to something that there was no way to make a sequel to it. And you cannot make a sequel to that that I can't you can't you can't keep role of the dice like that. I can't get into but this was a very important story to be told about race in a very bad take one character from the original source material. I feel maybe enough time has passed that it needs to let that go. But we're talking about star wars now talked about bill. Bird's Boston accent Sul burs based Boston. I'm just saying the mandatory is good fucking cool it on the baby. Oh to stuff and maybe will. I feel like there was an episode of no baby iota. NFL wasn't it like not this last episode but the episode before that which one the one with sedaris she had baby yoga she. She happened but That was book ended the episode. If that's the way it worked whether it's just a little bit of baby out of the beginning of the end that's fine. You wanted them to be separated in that episode they largely are and then it becomes at the very end. It became a thing. Yeah but you know I strange that that episode so which does exactly what I say I want to have with baby might have been my least favorite of the season. It wasn't super good. Yeah I can recognize Amy Sedaris. I feel like it was. The weakest episode actually. Didn't like that character ball. I thought she was okay. I didn't like it didn't have Abra. I didn't like the fake Han Solo Guy. How do you not have eyebrows? You have to be a special race store browse not grow back for maybe sedaris Never G. He has eyebrows. What does she? I don't know he's a cat. She is a cat cancer have eyebrows they have whiskers is the joke in Bocek horsemen where she says she's GonNa get her whiskers trend and then she followed that up with I. I run into walls constantly but man I look. That's pretty funny thing is to convert. He never fucking saw is so net flicks is still an effort. I heard it's good watching thirty. Rock again Kenneth No that's all the thoughts I have about chill on the baby. Automated learns a good show. I guess that's all I really wanted to say. I thought you had another take. He said he had to L.. My second take was the nature of like episode Episodic content TV can yeah. We're we're in an era. Where is I certainly need a story to follow between episodes like that's the one good thing? The Dragon Prince had going forward is that it continued the story. Most fine fine it just falls into a lot of pratfalls easy writing. That's I don't like it but I definitely need something to like. hold onto between episodes now. I've gotten to a point. Where if you don't have that I can't stomach another friend I feel like the the episodic Sitcom was a thing of the nineties and the nineties are over were going into twenty twenty? We need something the sinker teeth into. That's why Berry is good. That's why veep is good. That's why it's silicon on valley is good. Those are all. Hbo Shows but HBO has this thing. Where do comedies? Thirty minute comedies. But there's something to a follow episodes episode. You always kind of know where you're going. 'cause they stepped up these arcs and then by the end of the season the arc might close but then then you know they're going to set up a newark. Yeah storytelling needs to to adapt mortar. That I'm done with the bland. Nothing nothingness connected between the two and the man Laurean started with that and Kinda has that to a degree because we're still following the arc of you've got to find a safe place to put this baby. Yeah but there's a reason why the baby doesn't show up in the movies right. One would imagine. The baby's dead baby has the die. The baby baby has to die. What shoots the baby in the face? So what is the assumption that the mandatory takes place on nine years after the events of Return to the Djeddai. Maybe roughly about nine years Windows thirty five years later awakens. I mean. We know that the baby doesn't grow up it is. It is exactly thirty five years after Return Jetta. That baby doesn't grow up or her at the babies die right because of the brutal Listrik Western. Like it's maybe baby maybe the a baby yoga and the mandatory infuse into a greater being called Ray off awful look. I'm just saying bill fused together but they are raised parents on the question of answer. The Mandal Mandalay in baby. Yoda are raised parent's J.J. Abrams said he was going to answer the question. Little that we know John Fabra was already getting us there beforehand forehand kylo Ren said I've I know who your parents are and they like. There's a flashback to him. Like looking picture of the mandatory Iota Mandal. You know doesn't want to explain it because there's an odd time. I'm saving you some trouble. Ray they were nothing things they sold you for drinking money. And he's like. This is the best narrative for her. This is the protectors you can't know. And then now wow what's going to happen. Is that moment's GonNa Happen. Touted Star Wars episode nine opens. That moment plays J.J. Abrams walks onto the set. Hunches out of driving in the face and says it was Amanda Laurean and baby. Yoda Mine J.J. Abrams do the crawl. And then Scarlett Johansson shows up on turnout. Driver have a fight and he punches the wall. There's a kid in that marriage story Have you seen it now. Nominated for six Golden Globes. I uh Noah Baumbach made the squid the whale which I liked but I don't like to see people get divorced married store net divorce story. He ever. You Know Saga Yeah. We happy the driver. Listen you know Adam. Driver can't be happy. Be Happy and driver knows how to to scream and get divorced and fight for our nation. He was a marine noah. Baumbach is loyal Noah Baumbach only makes movies about upper class people who wear rolexes getting divorces. How do you know that's the Diablo? Cody all. These people whose names I don't know. Diablo Cody Juno. I put that together. Good well well. Let's just wrap up our talk of the mental oriented with mention of another director that you and I like that anyone knows exist is name as your ghost us. Land the most yes yorgos. Lot of us Big Fan here on the podcast. Oh I love the lobster. Is he directing the next episode of the Mantle. Or I know that's the one we're baby dies. TV's directing episode to say now Hell Yeah they made him the voice. It always has laugh. Clap they made him the voice snap snap. They made them the voice that made on the voice they made them the voice of the robot does he ever see the killing the sacred deer. Yeah I was a good. It's real fucked up. Okay here's the thing the lobster his least fuck that movie. Lots of really good. But that ending though lobsters lobsters grain ends on a real weird note. Yeah Real Bang or go slant the most is going to produce Gothard. Wow Gothard gothic western the Hawk Line Monster Okay. I'm really excited. I Love Western's I love him now. The hotline monster is a movie that has been trying to be made and I'm not exaggerating for literal decades allow But here's a Terry Gilliam movie. But Don Quixote The man who killed La Mancha. Yes that's been made. Yeah but they tried to make it for like forty years. Yeah yeah I know but it's been made but also is not great from what I've heard we'll never see it because the rights to that movie. Malonga the Mela Mancha maybe we know. I don't know the man who killed Don Quixote the men the the assassination of Don Quixote by the coward. Robert Ford. The man who killed them quixote and mm-hmm will never see because the rights. I think a billion a millionaire Spain says owns the rights great. Let Me Finish this headline the synopsis. So so The hotline monster. The synopsis to Hero gunslingers her hired by a young girl to kill the monsters. That live in ice caves under her house. What's that sounds great? This movie has been in hiatus in some type of production four decades. This this is one of those projects that that's going around for decades several attempts to get made Allah. Hal Ash be almost got down with. Jack Nicholson doesn't Offman off man. Jeff and Beau bridges replaced them and it fell through than timber and tried to get done with Clint Eastwood. But that didn't work out either incredible. So this movie's been around. This is so weird to me that only you know it's a thing that only insiders would know movies that disco around that around the production circuit the hawk. Line Monster. Apparently doesn't WanNa get made but maybe land the most is the the guy to get it done. I feel like considering made like hounds tooth killing sacred here. He makes movies that have no reason to exist so I feel like he's probably the the person to get to make this. That's pretty cool. It'd be that game one day I I duNNO I. I have a ton of faith in him. I haven't seen a movie of his that I dislike. Oh I think that he's like a one of the most paramount artists working today. I I will not say that. I recommend his movies. A whole cloth because much lobster. The lobsters his most feel-good movie. It's still really fucked up safe. Feel good yeah kind of feel good. It's an Anti Romance Romance. Yeah it's funnest movie. UK But he makes some real bummer. He's not afraid to make you feel that. Oh my God I just remember number one scene. Yeah all right well before they're crying he's really not afraid to make you feel bad. Health makes me feel like fucking Shit. He's he's he's really not afraid to make you feel bad which is good in a hardest. I guess yeah I mean if you feel something that means you removed yes indeed need so. Let's look forward to the hawk. Line Monster Although just because that headline was said doesn't mean anything Another headline was a came up this past week that WBZ's TYCO teeny directed. Akira project has now been officially removed from the reproduction schedule. Good don't make. Akira probably don't make a movie. That's basically perfect. Just shouldn't be done and that as much as I like Taylor td. I don't know if he could. I don't know what he would do with it. I would be fascinated because he does seem like someone someone who has a a healthy disdain for the idea of being overly slavish to source material so it'd be fascinated to know what he'd do but I don't necessarily I wanna see it for Kennedy. Got That with chronicle. I also know who should be. I know who should star in the hawk. Line Monster Oh the two going Simpson Orlando. Yeah Matthew Younger Care Anyway. Gratitude magnitude Burg McConnell as the younger on hey is gunslinger the number one number two matthew mcconaughey I want the Mikan the Matthew mcconnahey Hey and dark matthew mcconaughey no hear me I want I wanted her roic and then like mud lake like rust cold true detective Matthew mcconaughey I'm one hundred percent serious about this is how I give you that casting but only if the good McConnell says like all right all right in the bad macaca goes on the third one I arrived alright okay very good Eh. Because he's no he's not not fun now he's not fun. This would be the Jack and Jill of messy mccown is curry on. We make the Hawk like monster. A Commentary Matthew mcconnahey career starring Matthew mcconaughey twice so is the good one like the Matthew mcconnahey from failure failure to launch or is he the Matthew mcconaughey from like Dallas Dallas Buyers Club. I'd say somewhere between the two. I think Matthew mcconaughey is looking organised. Good Person In him somewhere Matthew mcconaughey hey from we are Marshall absolutely all right and then you have like rust call. Matthew mcconnahey was is not fun. He drives a Lincoln. Dan is a flat circle. Time to kill some ass monsters ever read the short story the Yellow Hello King Kazan. That's what I think we're dealing with here. What if I don't think he ever said that? No one. Here's the thing. No no one ever made reference the young ensure detective actually read the Yellow King. And if they did they'd be like Oh the short story Kinda Sucks Car Cosa you want to end the episode road. 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Naar school in een prikkelende wereld

AutCast

52:32 min | 2 d ago

Naar school in een prikkelende wereld

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Inside the Parker - Underachieving Yanks; More Ohtani History; Alonso's Derby Defense; Goo Gate Debate; Betting on the Bases

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

29:53 min | 4 months ago

Inside the Parker - Underachieving Yanks; More Ohtani History; Alonso's Derby Defense; Goo Gate Debate; Betting on the Bases

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I went to a yankees game on father's day at the stadium. I went to a mets braves till on tuesday night at city field. So i've been covering baseball catching baseball in the yankees game on sunday on father's day i was there for the triple play which ended the game which is pretty amazing and Last night of course the braves beat the mets. But i want to talk about the yankees. And what's going on. I mean they're still in the hunt. They're still above five hundred for my goodness. Something has to change last night against royals in a game that they lost garrett cole had the lead in the eighth inning and somehow the yankees still lost it but they will over ten with runners in scoring position and they left thirteen on base all night and lost six to five and the yankees are really scuffling batting to seventeen position which is incredible and the yankees now only two other teams in baseball worse than the yankees to eleven to seventeen batting average. And that's the pittsburgh pirates at to eleven and the milwaukee brewers at two. Oh three so. This team is like all or nothing. Swinging for the fences home runs or strikeouts. I mean an nop driving in ron's leaving guys on base to not making contact moving people over sacrifice flies. This has to stop. I mean this is. This is mind. Boggling how bad the yankees are and yet. They're still over five hundred which is shocking. And they're still in the playoff hunt number two. yes sir. two ways sensations. Shohei me the money otani. That's what i like to call. That's made history again on wednesday and as he hit form self at the pitcher and was second in the batting line-up against the giants right even with the designated hitter rules in place. It marked the first time in major league. History that an american league team chose not to use the d. age and a nationally in us one alex dickerson with the da for the giants and he had second and of course otani Made history by doing that is just it. This is an unbelievable on year to watch this guy be a two way player and continue to swing the bat. Well and pitch well Otani was making his eleven start of the year. he entered. wednesday's game tied for the major league. Lead in home runs with twenty three Sitting to sixty nine in sixty eight games and he's also set a career high in making the eleven start He had made ten starts in his rookie and twenty eighteen. So he's doing it all. I think he looks like he could be the. Mvp of the american league no matter where the angels finished but how what a guy he is must see tv otani every day making history for baseball number. Three good news for the home run derby. Pete alonso the mets masher has decided that he's going to partake in the home. Run derby in denver. That's great news. He will defend his title from two years ago. Of course there was no all star game. No homerun derby a last year during the pandemic and the first baseman announced on instagram wednesday that he will indeed participate in his second career derby next month next month in july after winning at derby and twenty nineteen so that is good news to see the big man bat. Otani has announced that he is going to be a part of the home. Run derby as well and everybody knows the home run. Derby has become a must see event. you know and rivaling the the all star game itself and it's great that unlike the nba where some of the biggest stars. Don't wanna participate in here. Some of the biggest stars in the game wanna participate in the home run derby and i think it's great to great way to sell a game. It's exciting and that's great news. Can't wait i will be in denver for that. All star game. It gives you an all-star addition of the inside the park or so stay to for the it's time for the pocket protector. Centra the analytic numbers. You need to know well. Maybe anthony masterson is his name. Bs analytics is gay. What do you got for me anthony. The beauty of baseball in the statcast era is every little detail is now recorded for nerds like me to fallen over but the metrics that have come along a little more slowly than others are the fielding numbers. But what we're seeing now though. Is the glove work. start to become more common. Let's have some fun with sabermetrics showy first off any batted ball to the outfield comes down to catch probability which is the likelihood for a ball to be caught with metrics like opportunity time. That is the moment the released by the pitcher and a distance needed to make that. Catch the metric outs. Above average is the sum of all batted balls hit to an outfielder was play is either credited to their overall number or debited. If they don't make the play for example a fielder mic catch a ball with a twenty five percent catch probability he gets plus zero point seven five to his season long ledger though if he doesn't make that play it's a minus zero point two five now with those catch probabilities. They're divided into categories from one star which ninety one to ninety five percent catch probability to five star which is zero to twenty five this year boston's kika hernandez has the most five-star catches with three while the pair of raise leading outs above average as manuel margot and brett phillips proved their value to keep balls from falling even if their offense has been a bit shaky and reminder it's not just about dinger's and strikeouts anymore fox sports radio. Has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live. Hey it's rob here. So the other day. I ran into an acquaintance of mine. Now i know this dude. We've hung out before but it's been a while and here's the thing. I just couldn't remember his name. What does that happen. I got there eventually but man. It was so awkward. That's happened to you right. Wouldn't you just love to turn situations like that. Into miller time think about it when enjoying a miller lite. You're relax being yourself and just hanging out. i could have just said. Hey you want a miller lite and we both could have had a cold beer with just ninety six calories plus it would give me time to remember my buddies name so the next time you want to turn an awkward situation into something more chill. Pick up some miller. Lite you can get it pretty much anywhere where they sell beer or go to miller lite dot com forward slash rob parker defined delivery options near you. It's miller time celebrate responsibly. Miller brewing company milwaukee wisconsin ninety six calories and three point two off per twelve ounces. We are so close to being together. We consensus from hearts beating out of our chest. They'd be sense that whisper. I love you to hugs and kisses from childhood because getting closer and closer together is priceless. Learn more about the covid. Nineteen vaccines at mastercard dot. Us slash fac support and start. Something priceless was a big week in the big leagues for is it fair and now from. Mlb bro dot com. Here's jr gamble. Normally on file a fair we just throw it to j. r. gamble from mlb. Bro dot com. And he does his thing. But this whole pitching and google gade and all that stuff going on there in enough time to just have them do it by itself. So we're going to break ranks on our normal of foul affair segment and we're going to do a debate old fashioned debate me and jr gamble. J. are says it's foul. What major league baseball is doing to the pitchers and making them change on the fly and yours truly says it's fair because you know what these rules are already the books. Jr you have the floor war and what's your problem with major league baseball cracking heads and undressing pitchers on the mile. No way to baseball getting in its own way again rob. Listen baseball's all about what we can't change the game. Continuity baseball has flow to it a cadence. That's being disrupted by conflict checks for google and substances it's more disruptive brother than anything we saw it in the phillies nationals games where you have a hall of fame pitcher a guy that has put in work one world series you know and he's harassed several times by the fires and then joe girardi uses the rule if savor the try to throw them off. That's not what the u the rules intended for is not to do jedi. Mind tricks with the pictures and get them off their game. I got you. But here's my argument. The rules are on the books already supposed to be doing balls up all that they'd let them get away with it. And here's my other point baseball camp wayne. We're on our way to the worst offensive year and a history of baseball more strikeouts than base hits the lowest team batting league average ever in the game. Which about this is all time loan. So we need to fix. The pitchers have a huge advantage. And it a right this game. The be corrected and we can't wait for next year. Let's get it right. Let's get this thing fixed and make it competitive again so back. Have a chance against pitcher. That's all i'm saying j. Oh i hear you. It's a sticker shock because everybody's not ready for but you shouldn't be doing balls. You shouldn't be doing it that you're talking about the batter's not being able to hit. That's if it's pitchers that make you a bad as not end the spin rate and the as bad as about hit to me. You're giving these guys in. Excuse jacob. The guam has a zero point five zero ray. Well we have five so it all out in the end. What is your raise ridiculous. When bob gibson had a one point one two you know what baseball did. They lowered the mound the next year. Then between and mickey lowly and and and people like that. let's say let's see rob if it was that bad like i said we have to blame the literally coaches. The haiku coaches the coach. Developmental coaches teaching is boomer bus launch angle style. Getting isn't it ironic. That a guy. Like michael brantley. Who when i spoke to an all star game a couple of years ago. He said look my dad. Let me hit line drives. When everybody was hitting home runs he said look. You're to go. Hawk line drives mike. O'brien legion and three fifty. Three rob lag. Erosion three forty trade. China jesse waco sets mccaw solano's. They had three forty thirty. Maybe they need to get some hidden jobs on major league team and stop blaming the pitches. Because you're talking about bad navigates being down. I'm seeing guys tony. Gwynn numbers one through ten in the league. So something's gotta give it can't all be because you're wearing goo and sticky stuff and revenue bottom. I got you. I mean dot. That's a fair argument. But we all see an historic and you're right a lot of it has to do with guys swinging for the fences and large ankles. And i get that but the shift dozen. H- doesn't help you take away. Hits guys hit the ball right up the middle and then third baseman and centerfield at. That doesn't have anything but my brother. That doesn't have anything to do with sticky. Stop sample when you add all that together with that the hits and then the pigeons the pitchers we've had a record number of no hitters. We have my okay so there's gotta be something that ain't right we never had. We're we're just in june and we got six no hitters and record sick for a whole year we might have twelve no hitters. If we play out the whole year something has to be fixed. And i get it all google but the google is an issue and i think pitchers already know that they've been let off the hook for a long time. They just gotta clean iraq though. Okay before i finish demolishing gene in his argument. Let's let's just. Let's just say this all right. The pictures don't need to be harassed right now. This wasn't the time to do it. And i don't think that is going to solve the problem. All it does is make the fans upset. Because i've been gauging what the fans on various platforms including our best platform. It'll be dot com. I've been gazing. They don't like it. Why black chinese asian big colour otherwise none of the fans like this and look at how the pitches we acted in the game the other night. I just think that is baseball. Trying to force the issue. I'm glad they have somebody inside with you. It might be you and no one else. You wanna commissioner only two people that think this is a good idea but let me get manfred on the phone and my man. Jr gamble of a bandaging editor of mlb. Bro dot com. If you haven't checked out the site is fantastic and his debate was good. But i don't know. I needed issue. I got you all right. There were years jail. You appreciate you money into more money. Now it's time for betting on the basis with guests guy that money jumping right into this with the it. Looks like that kind of a season for the padres. And the dodgers san diego getting the better of la in recent days. I'm taking both of these teams on friday night. In particular san diego they get the lowly arizona diamondbacks at home at petco park. Diamondbacks have sitting major league baseball record for nafta tude on the road historic drawback for them. Some taking the padres the run line and the padres money line take those to the bank also taking the dodgers at home against the chicago cubs did not fare well earlier. This season in the windy city some taken los angeles. They're on top of all that i also have. The milwaukee brewers at home they get the colorado rockies. Were also awful on the road this season. You look at the nationally west. In fact you got the diamondbacks the rockies that are the tail end of this division of course san francisco. La san diego. The top dogs is a top heavy division rockies and the diamondbacks fe them all the way out. When rob was the newspaper columnist he lived by this motto. If i'm writing i'm rippin. Let's bring in a writer of broadcaster older new off now. Let's welcome to the podcast a long time. Friend of mine man. This guy knows more baseball. And i can even remember branson right. Who's a film maker. And also a freelance sportswriter for the undefeated. And a guy who i know from way back. We've uncovered minor league baseball when he first got into journalism. What's up brand right. how are you. I'm good around how you doing brother. I'm doing good. Tell people man what you cover the michigan whitecaps. Didn't you the the west michigan whitecaps and it was such a good way to jump into the league. My first year We had a guy named alex. Rodriguez playing an appleton had a guy. Billy wagner hitching. A and. I think he was on one of the teams. I can't remember the houston astros. Would what was their affiliate. But it was just francisco. Cordero was in the league and then he was so many good players into see them start. You know eighteen nineteen twenty years old and just to see how they developed makes you feel old and especially since they're all retired now but you've got to see some good baseball while these guys are at a younger age. No doubt unbelievable. I still remember those days man. We used to talk baseball baseball. But but you wrote a piece for the undefeated. This is why i was like we gotta talk. Wrote a piece that i enjoyed About rickie weeks and his Historically black college by college and university baseball career and people don't know that about him but you write about one of the greatest college players you know from an acc. You just talk about wikileaks and his career during college. And now What he's doing to help Younger kids get into baseball. Well what. I loved about their rickie weeks story and rob don't know how you feel about analytics and hey said thank you thank you. You know but but i'll say this analytics has its place but it can't determine everything it can't be a hundred percent of of how you judge baseball now. I say that because rickie weeks was not recruited out of high school and he went to a good baseball program in florida. He had some play bonus team that went to the majors and got drafted and went to college. And this guy just wasn't looked at because you know we're not on television but the air quotes. He didn't look like a baseball player. He was saying any kid under six feet. So as we all know the is let your eyes be the judge so a red scout happened to be in florida whose across checker. He was down in florida helping out some of the other guys at the reds and they were looking at some other kid and this process jacker sawing and he went to southern so he called the coach at southern said. Hey you may wanna look at this kid so one. Scholarship offer to southern gets the southern. It's over four. Hundred is freshman. Year wins the batting title and his second year batting four. Ninety five not softball. Four ninety five in baseball. This is the ncaa batting title correct. Yes yes then. The next year wins it again. It was a down year. He had four seventy nine. Yeah oh yeah he really slumming so as these great numbers he. He did something that. I don't know if it will ever happen again. He won the golden spikes award. Which is the best college player in the nation from. Hpc see you so he gets drafted but just gotta go back. Rob you just. You know he didn't have the analytics and people somebody just needed to see him in. That could baseball and always have to go to for my alma mater university in cincinnati. Santa colfax was there to play basketball. He happened to be playing baseball game. A scout dodger scout happened to come by on his way to kentucky to see somebody and sandy koufax was there pitching. He wouldn't have went there today. Saying to colfax may not have become who he is but analytics probably showed that he wasn't a good pitcher right. No no what. I'm worth you and i'll guest is up branson right. Who's a filmmaker and a freelance journalist. White gray pieces for the undefeated dot com part of espn dot an As covered baseball for a long time knows the game somebody. I respect his baseball knowledge. 'cause you know baseball to sports you can't feng branson. The can't fake baseball and you can't fake hockey. If you don't own to you know those two games man people people know right away am i right. You're right you're right. And i want to add a third. You can't play boxing. A bill so so Fourteen years in the major leagues. He made the all star team in twenty eleven. All that we know played had some great success with the brewers played for the diamondbacks. But now tell us you know what he's doing now in the community. Which i think is awesome. Yeah well he's for one. He's a consultant to anybody that wants to know. Learn how to hit. You know this is the guy you call. He and his brother who's brought. His brother played in the majors briefly. Also they have a program on chance that they run in the orlando area and then they got a call from the organization that ran the all star game and was able to. You know help. The young players there become come face so they could see an hp you graduate had success in baseball. So he's doing all he can to just make sure that black kids play the game and get the support those that do play the game for those that are successful. So you know kudos ricky for for doing that and hey it was a hard time catching because he does so much In his community in and around baseball. But i was glad to finally get in touch with them at the store. Man narrative is go. Take a look at it. On undefeated dot com. His name is brands or right. His brother knows baseball. I appreciate you. Thanks for joining the podcast. And we'll see you down the row branson anytime anytime. Here's something good. From the seneca women podcast network and iheartradio is a great way to start your day the positive side of life. We bring you inspiration advice and practical ideas. So here's something good for today. Brought to you in partnership with don and swiffer. Did you know that when couples share household chores their relationships get better research from dawn. Swiffer shows couples are happier and they feel closer to their partner when tasks are divided. It's called closing the gap and to find out why it's so effective. 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77 Were Back, Audio is Crackling, Covid Hasnt Stop Us From Daddying, But is Sure Doesnt Make it Easy

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77 Were Back, Audio is Crackling, Covid Hasnt Stop Us From Daddying, But is Sure Doesnt Make it Easy

"I still you're saying, YOU'RE DELAYED Am I Yeah. Well hopefully won't record that way my life is delaying. My life is a delay. But everybody cove is over. It's been a while. And there's been one thing I haven't said in my life. To the. Very, looking young men gentlemen across the screen for me and that is. cume using. ME. Gaining. What's up. Back. It has been. I think about four, hundred, four no. Maybe six weeks now since last we have published your. Month or Early August like that you're whittle. Okay. This this. Episode everybody please we know he'd been writing in. We've seen the tweets. We did a viewer mail bag in our last episode, and since we have abandoned our audience although we did warn them, we weren't gonNA be around people have been What's the appropriate word to talk about the response we've gone to any Level rating for more. Great. They've been. would you call audience people have been clamoring clam a I was going to clamoring I don't want to say, I, don't want I would never call it our audience and fans desperate. But I think we've all been in a world where I know for coded I feel desperate feel desperate for My life desperate for the war. It has been a crazy time to be doubting. Crazy to be dabbing so. If you have not listened before they'll come. I am Vinnie Dunleavy. And together, we are dead so hard. To believe it. and. What do we do Danny? Where can you have if you like what you hear you or you don't WanNa listen to you just WANNA follow us. You do that too. Then that's fine to. INSTAGRAM. facebook. At Dad's hard podcast twitter at dad's a hard pod. Or you can reach out to US email Dad So hard podcast DOT COM or. Website anyone who does that anymore but we had so a hard dot com. That's actually a good question. DO PEOPLE STILL GO I've actually people still good websites i. Will. Tell you. I have started going to more websites. As Jimmy Online shopping primarily because uninstalled. Graham I have been caught. In the instagram trap of ordering something that looks like a very real company. And then discovering weeks if not months later that. China and he's warehouse soon months later back to. What I started genetic. Thirty days. It's terrible. So I'll when I look at it instagram product I. Then immediately go to ensure my browser and then I google product and I go to the website to try to figure out. How legit is and then what I do is googled a website name because like I ordered this pool the summer, it was a disastrous purchase I tried to cancel. A threat. Mike Friend got one of those likes it. It's all about where you get it from. I got it from police in China, and then when you're talking about the hot. Hot Hot somebody like that was that's your subject on the the return never mind. No INTEX in. Texas. LEGIT Company for pools. I found some place that had a pool available on the website was four. As you can get, it took two months and then when I went back to the website, the phone number didn't work when I googled the address. A. Wanted for summer then summer's over when you get cracked but the address of the company was a gas station and then when I looked up the URL it said it had only been in existence for two months. So I think there's a lot of times. These were all of these companies and I don't want to single out China. Because there's a lot of people in this world singling them out but I think what they do is is a warehouse they put up a site that looks American in Nice and pretty. And then everybody on instagram just goes in buys this stuff and it looks like totally legit when it's just it's like marketing. It's like it's like their marketing companies, not Prada companies and I get sucked into it. So but this episode guys were gifts. Go. Tucker, for Instagram ed this well a lot. Impulse, buy is via social media. I find if it's in the price range of say, Seventeen Ninety nine to twenty nine, ninety, nine it feels like why not? Yes, I got a paint a paint roller set from China. fell apart in forty five seconds. Did it stop me from buying something else I? Knew. It was the worst it literally. I got half a wall done took again, eight weeks to get here. I had already painted most of the room. It was. Terrible terrible nothing more than terrible. I'd actually just purchase something three days ago. And then the next morning I woke up and I saw it in my pay pal account and I realize it's coming from China, which means I'll never get it and then I couldn't remember what it was. Oh. No, they're these. Have you seen the ADS because I've been doing a lot of stuff around the house so there's this like. Permanent instead of clocking. countertop a wall you can do this like a heavy duty string. Bends and like it, it makes it like in my circle. Hawk line and so almost like I always did like part of is the. Depart like the Flexible line. Nobody around the I mean. So nobody it's similar and I did buy seal as well. The spray I haven't used Dan. I'm thinking the flex till I like the little squeezy things I bought. Works. Pretty well, I bought the SPRAGUE's supposed to help. If you painted I painted something outside and if you do the clear spray was help seal in this. But I will say to not. Like. The flex builder does not work is the glue flexible glued does not, Work Oga either that or I just sort it wrong because it just I can't get it out of the to use it once and then whatever to. Clues left in the top completely became steal. An can't get that anymore out I find that happens with Mike with all the glues. Gorilla glue or which. Doesn't it is. Crazy. Glue with a with a needle tried tried and true crazy glue watch. There's no reason ever to switch from. When it can hold a man holding his helmet remember they add the guy holds the helmet and he's hanging from. Simple simple of. Low We guys were catching up in life. This is what it's about where is going to be quick episode because we want to the Internet trolls and the hate. Mail we've been getting for not recording episode is just been too much for us but like many of you if you're living in a covert world check inlet where lot. Yeah and it's and it's been hard we are doubting so hard and parenting so hard. That we're nearly on the brink of disaster. act. Speaking I think of being. Sick. And Summer, lead up to school. Well I wanna know what happened when apparently September school started and the sun decided to instantly rise later and go to bed earlier because it is dark, it is now like it used. Within a week within a week, it was six o'clock. Now Pitch Black and six thirty it's pitch black. I guess I forgot. Every year but it happens. It happens suddenly it was like Labor Day weekend came. I. Mean it actually helps with bedtime because the kids don't think it's. The missing anything. But I have had A. As Danny may attest. I've had a rough parenting cycle during this during this time. Now that we're back to school, which I don't even know if we can call back to school because it's like school half the schools in my house. Have the schools in the physical building it. This is J- just we're we're living in unprecedented unprecedented parenting times. There is no other way to say it so if you are barely holding it together as a parent As a person. I say congratulations 'cause that's I if you can hold it together during these times I think that's a win. Esp. I have not held it together especially if it. Especially, if it's to work impacts. flaky. craziest. Situations because. You're. In school, you're trying to figure out how to get your learning Adnan. You're also trying to go back to work at the same time but then. The schools aren't full-time in person so You're learning whole half the time. But if they're under, I would say ten years old, they can't be trusted to learn on the laptop follow on. Over. Them like a hawk but also trying to work on how the hell you supposed to do all of this for. So it's like. It's all that plus you WanNa do decent jobs you know get fired I mean that the part of that is also the stress of God I don't want to be the one to get rid of I. Mean it's crazy. I used to think that this was going to be worse for parents with kids under ten. Because it is. It's tremendous. I if you have a kid under ten and you don't have help and then you don't really want to get help helps coming from questionable. Look. I think the assumption is. If kids are over ten, they're a little bit sufficient when it comes to like technology being able we trusted to. Go onto use the head and do schoolwork and be held accountable correct. But now the caveat to that, and this is where I actually think it's if it's justice art for old parents of kids as they are, they can be trusted to do their schoolwork, but they can't be trusted, and this is sort of I've been the big surprise. Many people thought that young kids wouldn't wear masks school and in actuality kids undertand don't give a shit about wearing a mask they're wearing them all day. It's not it's not a bother however. these high school kids who not only don't want to wear their masks either in school or on the weekends and going to parties the bigger parenting challenges keeping your junior and senior in high school away from a covid infested party to that. In fact, because they are the June day. Alright the they're these college kids. They're just out there wild about who's fancy free. and. Living on a living on a prayer and so I almost think like it's at that becomes a little bit harder. That's even a harder challenge because it's either your kid's got to do it or not do it and you can't lock them down 'cause they're a teenager and so like. Any sort of parents. You have a challenge right now and I think it's would. The hardest thing we've been trying to do is not within the stress is in how do you prevent yourself from fighting with your spouse in front of your child or just having nervous breakdown in front of your child or any? Any of it about because these kids are not only in the world they're seeing. And I don't think there's an at the end of the day. I'm not trying to stop it. It's happens I would be lying to you if I've said that my kids have not seen like world war for in this house in the last six months on numerous occasions And it's just it's just it's going to be part of. I've I've I'm taking a new approach so I was listening to a podcast. And have you ever heard this somebody described themselves as a next play guy? Next play guy next so. Described somebody was because he went on a twitter rant about something and people were offended in writing in and he was like listen at the end of the day the next play guy I apologize I moved on your in a game you get you you you you. You soon, the battle, a quarterback. Yeah you're. So now I've created a mantra, be your next play next guy. Shots. So my new mantra in life as I have it printed on the on Mike Laptop but I go, it's a new day. It's a new game. It's the next play. And I am legitimately trying to live our to our thirty minutes thirty minutes, human interaction to human interaction because there are going to be times where it's terrible and if you are beating yourself up like you may have in the past about trying to be a better person, you just can't do it. You know it's it's like you're. You're self I would crack I would crack under the pressure so. I'm saying I'm an ex I'm an ex play dad if you go and just okay today it worked I survived. Monday night it's not suze morning One thing that happened to me yesterday any is my foot right now is in a footpath I have a giant hole in the bottom of my foot and tell you this yesterday. Whole yet it's not I. Show it to you. It's probably disgusting looking I we had been doing can once Oh, we've been doing construction our back yard and I cut down some a little bit of these bushes I had. And I forgot there was a couple of this stumps. There have a ground bubble or a little bit above. So Shane wanted to play during recess yesterday when he was home tag. So instead of being a normal person putting sneaking on I went into my a cornfield backyard with the couple would stumps and ran around by param I turned as I went as he was steak as he was chasing me my bowl, my foot and I run I don't even know if you run properly but I run my ball. I I guess how you run. The full goes as I try to show you how can we? GotTa go he'll you I I went. The ball of my foot and my foot what ran into the wood and Co gashed it. Elisa's what I needed stitches. I. Don't need stitches I just need. have any tree in there and taking it out. So it healed a pretty good last night where there was a giant piece of skin had a rip off disgusting. And then but if I put any because it's on the ball, make any pressure on it. So it feels like there's like a giant like figure out in it or if it's simply because it's the ball on my foot and there's so many nerves there. It just it feels like there is a gum ball on my foot, but there's when you look at it there's legit. So I'm soaking. You'RE GONNA. have to do instead rap fish. It's like this like inch layer of cause to make you feel like you're walking on a pillow. Oh well, I'm going to try and. I took a lot of advil intrepid is on it. See if I can give you a picture. Do you WanNa see a picture of it. Absolutely knock. Oh my God you can't. You can't post this video now. Well, if he was somebody, you'll see that there's listen. I posted a picture of like planters work. It does well because it's been soaking. So it's has white white white around the when my son was born, they say no cameras in the delivery room you can't tell this guy no, I know I have anybody searches. All of a social media circa two thousand fourteen June six you will see a beautiful baby boy in all full Red Blue Purple Glory with the Umbilical Cord still attached. Held like a coup. Matata the lion king by a nurse in the air is like ripping sent. Oh, it was it was it was right and it doesn't say there's I know you said. You said warning now. There is no warning on the picture album like people are looking to be out like oh Oh. Listen National. National Geographic. That is what it is that he will have that on his wedding day the chose. though shows have that black screen with the white. Warning Bischel, contains that's without photo album gates idea. Contents graphic content. That may not be suitable for viewers under backseat that may not be suitable for viewers that are alive. Suitable for no for no, it's suitable for knowing that may but that may be the that could be the opening his bar Mitzvah album. If I. Even if we get that far, we'll see the It took some notes here. I don't know what I don't even know what? I was doing. Oh, that's a different. That's a different a business either business idea. I WANNA throw my big product ideas out there. Danny but this one, I'll email you about. No that'll get stolen. I. Know. But. This is another. We'll end on that one end and this one question because this is this scruple that happened to me over the summer. Gene is six first grade and we went to public park when you're on vacation and fire island. and. He was there. The kids are all kids of all in your kids playing with kids of All Ages And some of those kids happen to be say if he's six get ten, I don't even know the rages but not every kid uses the greatest language and some of them speak. With As bombs at bombs they're dropping things left and right and said you more on you idiot. So, your kids out there in the playground and you're you're not you're either watching from afar. I'M NOT GONNA helicopter but I'M GONNA. Watch. Just makes she's alive. Yeah. But then you overhear this bad language. Do you pull them from the park. Do you not do anything. Or do you. Go and say listen play in the park but don't play with that kid because I like to as talking in those words aren't Nice what what are you? What is the Modi Operandi what do you think I did? GonNa turn into a trivia question. What do you think I did and what would you do well I think you probably pull them at this long. Talk. With. Him. All right now. Are you kidding? Good I lived in the price you'd never know you. Know. This show about language. Like it's to me. That's one of the easiest things to correct as a person like like the way you talk like the words that you use. Because thing about it like where? middle-aged and where taped like with our work like presentation skills, classes like the there they teach you like words not to say that had to get rid of Alexa, those things or habits to change, and that goes with cursing to foul language. So I'm not overly concerned if my kid starts dropping F bombs, here's saying like that's a very correctable behavior but so for short term, some of my here, my. Kids parents is kristen around or whatever. Cares, I'd rather have behaved well. I have good morals and things like that like if they drop in. At bomb. Cares. Cursor on my kid that's just. The Way I talk. See How can you give me an putting? You're putting a different spin on. Making a point here. You're saying it's okay. You're you're. Hearing it and you're comfortable with him repeating you. Corrected. So I I think. I think it's the easiest thing to change if they hear Chris. Fine. But as a very easy thing to teach. Okay, you can hear that I say A to sometimes put. You shouldn't say here's lie. You shouldn't say that like that's something that taken learn and figure out where it's like, why do I have to be completely censored the world doesn't get a censor themselves around them. So all they're gonNA think. Like, I don't it's all sense of security. You know bubble. No. would be exposed to it. It took you a while or took me awhile to figure out your points. I figured it out and I say that's like. But I'll say I'll say I agree I. got you got me there. You got me there and my answer was going to be said where I don't care what they hear because you can't control the world I can't control what goes those years what I can try to control is what comes out of his mouth and when other when they go somebody's I go listen long as he's not saying it exactly. That's the problem. Now, the only issue with that is When they start saying it or when they start thinking they're cool because now the problem I've had is he's not saying the words he's going you F N. And more on or you why Emily's being an Ale and I'm like Kate now, and the problem is is it's not like he's saying a casually to that's not a word. You say he's getting angry and then he's using in his and listen is saying using correct is using absolutely correctly. I mean. He's APPs in the moment he's absolutely one hundred percent he's frustrated he's his store and he's dropping bombs. Now, it's like I have to one. realized. Feel good. Yeah. It's a real release. Stress Release. So the issue of having is I don't want to and I think if the scruple is, do I deal with the language, which is just makes me upset nervous or when pissed off that is using it or is it more the idea that he's lost his mind in a stressed out and he doesn't know what to do because he still doesn't have a lot of language skills and I think the reason why he saying is because there's tension building up. And he's frustrated and he doesn't know what to do because the also will throw out like oil show is dead. He was you stupid Jeffey videos on Youtube. There's all this stupid shit that's out there but. It's actually trying I always try to figure out. Okay. That's the symptom. Symptom is the bad language. What's the real issue going on there and the issue is he's not he's feeling stressed out know what to do and parenting to the bottom of the food chain when it comes to kids bad behavior is the hardest because you're trying to look that's to me like, why is he doing it? What's the? Why of what is he trying to really say how do you feel the need extreme? And that's the whole that's been. That's the hardest thing. To and like like. Little analogy or whatever. Like. We're talking about like with the language and like cursing at like to me the people that. CARE so about like. Foul language. Are the same people that correct your spelling. At it's like that's the lowest form of education and easy like you're letting. You're taxing like someone like correct your language and it's like. What you still know what I'm saying Yes there are there are a million things go around the world. Intelligence listen. There's there's A. autocorrect there is word spelling for these things being able to have I would have I believe the emotional Iq. Unless you want your kids to be a PhD student and emotional IQ right now in this world and and if if we have not learned watching the news is that if we live in a world without any empathy and nobody knows how to relate anybody we live in a world of. Chaos it just fucking chaos until like if we can teach people to have a better emotional I relate to human being. Folk certain about correcting each other rox making money. Everybody's wants to make money get good grades. It's like, no why don't you know how to be a human being? Can we teach that? Can that be course at school how to just be a normal human being a Mbatha I wanna pep I want an enrichment class for empathy and being a normal human being instead of having. A one. But we and it is one of those things I see now because all the schools everything is about all the enrichment programs about how to make your kid smarter and smarter as based on some kind of academic thing that's all it's all competitive. So you're basically all you're doing in the world now like age seven, seventy, nine and ten is teaching you need to compete and you need to try to be the best. Is What is the most important thing in life and I'm like ANA no I don't agree like you don't need to be the best I'm not the best at what I do I'm good at it. I need to be good at things and you can be very successful being really good at something. Yeah. But you don't need to be whether I'm the best it's a world renaissance man. So that we're GONNA END ON THAT NOTE EVERYBODY VINCI We're just going to tell our kids to be the best humans they can be So listen. I'm energized I've missed your I liked that Mug I missed the hair's grown in well up top. Starting today ready. It's rock and roll and everybody. So listen it's sometime in. September. When we get this out, we are here we have not left you. We will be back. 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Molly and Ralph talk about Mike Smith being fired and review the Falcons game

Buccaneers Observer

31:16 min | 3 years ago

Molly and Ralph talk about Mike Smith being fired and review the Falcons game

"The buccaneers observer podcasts Ralph Phillips and Molyvann got some big news today. Mike Smith got the axe. Defensive coordinator gown got beat buys old team. And they just we've had enough of it. All she wrote fans are really calling for it. Oh, yeah. Fans in the media. The local media in Tampa. They're always calling. It seems like that's what the fan base likes to do Meyer people. Get somebody's head on a platter. We'll see if it turns out. It's never big fan of Mike Smith defense to begin with. You know, it was a little too soft for me, but I'm old school. I like mean aggressive hard hit and blitzen defenses. Just didn't get that from the pinky ring salesman. The big hearings hills. I'm Mike Smith is no more. I that might be the end of his NFL career down it. He'll go on who's going to hire. He won't be a head coach. That's for sure he might end up as a defensive backs coach somewhere. He'll be a defensive coordinator. That'd be surprised. I mean after this even after this show. I mean, he did not put up a good resume at three years a crappy defenses, Amy. Yeah. Well, like, good luck. Wherever you go. Whatever happens to you team is really kind of characterizing it as a promotion for Mark Duffner rather than the firing of Mike Smith. I guess that's one way to look at. Yeah. So cutter was a little terse in his press conference today. We'll just new. That's true. But he he did look a little torn up about the decision. Didn't he say it was the second hardest decision? He's ever or something. Well, it was the second hardest thing he's experienced as the head coach. The first hardest thing was a player died who does it was in Boise state when he was in college one of his players died from football. I don't know he didn't say, but that was the first thing he's dealt with as a head coach. So this is on that level. Yeah. I guess. So I mean hill and Mike Smith have been together for. Back to the Jaguars. And apparently it was cutters decision management. Well, fantastic. Anyhow, all you fans out there that one of the acts were Mike Smith. You got it. Let's see what happens. Hopefully, our defense will get a Bill stronger more stout. But we won't know until next week. Right. The Dirk said during the bye week they did selfs county and they had a self scouting period. I guess for each the each side of the ball to kind of look at where they are what they're doing wrong. And this was kind of the test to see if they learned anything from it. So apparently, he filled. Test. Mike's not getting into college death ner is being promoted, but he's still going to be the linebackers coach. And he's apparently the most experienced on the defensive staff. Wow. That's going to be interesting because I've been saying this that the linebackers have been kind of disappearing during the games, I'm not seeing them being because we have outstanding linebacker core. And they're just not living up to their potential. So will be interesting to see if he amps up their game. Or if he carries that onto the whole defense. If he does that then I'm not going to be too excited about him being defensive coordinator. Right. I mean, you kind of think about the defensive line hasn't been performing. They haven't been able to get pressure. But I mean, you need the linebackers for that. If you're going to bring all seven. Yeah. The the linebackers have just really been a non factor all year. And then by the same token if you were secondary needs. Help that's been the linebackers. Come in. Yeah. Well, we got we got chewed up by Hooper in Atlanta. We got shoot up McDonald in Pittsburgh got chewed up. Kamara in New Orleans, those were all on Beker, cover guys. Right. So we'll see we shall see the subtle cutter. Said we have to cover better, which we've kind of noticed during the games. I mean, the the defensive backs that plays so far off the receivers that they're just letting them. Yeah. We never do any press coverage every ever I mean every now and then you'll see the cornerback or at least one cornerback up on the latest, courage. But generally, they're, you know, five ten yards back. We just watched the game right before this press conference. We are right before this podcast. We did the condensed version, and it was it was like every single play. The Ryan Smith says backed up like eleven yards. On the receiver. Like you. You're going to let the receiver run up eleven yards. That means he catches the ball. He's picking up eleven yards. Like how much sense does that make we there was a third and six in the fourth quarter and Brent Grimes Steinbeck eight yards. He was behind the first down marker. And of course, who the Jones just does a slant and gets the first down. It's like, I don't I don't know the philosophy. But maybe maybe getting rid of Mike Smith, all we'll in that. But brick grabs has always done that ever since he's been here. And if I were calling always did that at Atlanta too. But I hate to see the other Cornerbacks doing it as well. I don't know if copying him or if it was a coaching call or what because they are a little bit younger than him. He's the most senior everybody's a little bit younger. So one of the reporters asked Dirk what kind of message. He wanted the firing of Mike Smith to send to the players and he got along snarky with this one. I thought which rightly so this kind of a stupid question to ask. Now, actually, she wasn't even there or I didn't hear her. So he said I'll keep that between me. And then players I'm not going to send messages through the media, which I like that. It's it's a hate that when they go to the media and start bar. That's when a team reeling falls. When you start using the media to fight with each other. You get offended, and you're like, why didn't you come and say that the my face, right? So I do for cutters. Cutter kind of has an attitude, but I like that he's never throwing anyone under the bus during the press conferences. He's support says players. It's good to see just you don't wanna see that. Where there's you know, they'll even asked like catton's RO when he missed the extra point and cutters. Like well. You know, he made all these two. So it's like he'd really is going to bat for his players. Yeah. He's always done an off appreciated it because you don't want to see anybody get up there and bachelor players because again that just causes resentment. And and when you have a leader get up there and put all the problems on their shoulders. It makes you want to play harder for exactly exactly you feel supported you feel sniff feelings in football. You know, you you have each other's back. Some Gerald McCoy had a calf injury during the game cutter wouldn't comment on it. And he said you'll hear about it on Wednesday. When injury report comes out. So apparently, he's still on the injury report. Yeah. I dunno jerem McCoy. And he just I mean can't say helping well, you know, he has I two years. He was the no factor. You know, had those bicep injuries. And it seems like every year. There's always something he misses a couple of games. I mean, he plays eighty percent of the snaps on defense. You know when he's out there. He's an iron, man. But again. This was an injury that took him out of the second half. But generally, he's not a factor in the second half. And he he really needs to step up on that. I would I wish he would save his moves or as endurance or whatever for the second hand. Because that's when we really need him. Do you think maybe he shouldn't be playing on the snaps like what if they cut down his workload? Now, don't take. So I don't take. So I do think he needs some competition in there. I mean ever since he's been here. He's been the only defensive tackle, you know, the three tech. They've never had anybody having compete for his job or a young whippersnapper nipping at his heels. And I think he could use that how everybody could use that. But. Do that when they're paying him sixteen million a year? Probably not. So the the last play and the game was pretty memorable. Yeah. That lasts was awesome. If it would've worked out, right? They failed the first qualification. Well. So close so close and that would have been a good play. But they've been practicing it all here apparently ruler. There were looking forward to being down by four. Well, it's nice to have in your back pocket if you ever need it. He did say they use it again letting everybody out there that we're getting ready to play this year. We will be using that again just a heads up. Yeah. It would have worked perfectly to if what was bobbled it. First Winston through a bed, the bad lateral, or whatever you wanna call it. And then it just started to a mess. But the Sean Jackson is the one that slipped up there at the end he had it. He had a straight shot to go in end zone. And he started running before he got his hands on the ball. And boot went right through his legs. So could have been a win. Well, does Shawn Jackson actually could have had a touchdown with about six minutes left. I think it was Winston threw him a beautiful bomb into Sean Jackson, didn't even put his arms out for it. And it was definitely catchable. He would have done like eighteen eighteen did for the bears laid out and call it the ball. But I don't even think you need to do that. I think all you need to do is stick his arms out. He didn't even stick his arm though games right in the end zone. He had beat his man. I don't know what that was all about. But I give to Sean Jackson a D for this game for just those two plays alone. He seemed a little frustrate in the whole game where you saw him at the. End of the game. He missed the catch on that last play. But then you know, there were he kinda threw a tantrum at the end of the game. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you should have been discouraged with themselves. They're share. Sure. Levada they had a meeting with him this afternoon or a interview with him after the game. And they talked about the fiery, and it was it was new for all the players. They didn't give them a heads up cutter. Just kind of came out with that on a meeting. Well, he just said, you know, Mike's gone, well, that's a surprise to everybody. Yeah. It did kind of come out of nowhere. You really didn't expect it the in week six just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You got two thirds of the season left. It is what it is going to move on. I get hopefully, the new guy will put some fire onto this defense. Yeah. But it seemed like everybody in the locker room had a bunch of respect for coats math. I never heard anybody say bad word about him. Robert Ayers is really the only one after he left kind of ragged on the fact that they only or they say they only had two calls ever played on defense. I mean, he was over exaggerating, of course. But that's the only bad word. I've ever heard about Mike Smith wasn't the creative. Type. I don't know. What else the on film? I saw some creative stuff. But I think it was just not executed. Well, he couldn't get guys fired up, right or something. I mean, maybe that's it David did say that death, nor has lots of energy, positively football fun with him. So maybe that'll get the players performing Bill. That's a key thing. You gotta have fun out there. Yeah. Yeah. And it seems increasingly they've just been frustrated. They're having a little fun more frustrated because it's not like the defense is performing that much worse than they were the first couple weeks when we want. I mean, the saints put up forty some points our defenses averaging giving up forty seven points a game, right Karenna. We we we're headed towards being the worst team defense in the history of the NFL. But. You'll watch. And we're not okay. The worst football we've ever seen as Ray more. Two thousand eleven team. This team is nowhere near that. Yeah. Well, you know, they just give up these big chunk yards. And they're giving up, you know, fifteen twenty twenty-five yards. Just all the time. We got receivers wide open. And that's what I see on. The film is too many to much confusion out there guys not doing what they're supposed to do as you. See it. You'll see two guys standing right next to each other. While there's a receiver wide open twenty yards away from them. I I wonder if the coaches aren't really letting the players rely on their instinct because remember when like David Chen. Well, we drafted in with Xiang now. I mean, he was just out ball hawk line all over the field or the most best pure football. Instinct, guys I've ever seen. And you just don't see that. No, no Smith came in and clamp down on David. And he just got all discombobulated, and it seems like it's still lingering effects. David's making a few plays here and there, but he's not able to get off blocks. Which was he was a master at that is first couple of years, and he's not reading the field will go I will say this Levada David was responsible singlehandedly for giving Atlanta, Falcons, a three and out. I think it was in the fourth quarter. So you can't totally knocked a guy. But he has changed a lot. You know? You know? It's just a weird thing that we noticed during the Atlanta game was that the linebackers. They're not even trying to avoid blocks and blockers. They're just running up to the lockers engaging with them the play will be happened in three feet to the right? And they're fighting with their, you know, the person that came out to block them like the whole point is to avoid that person. Right. Yeah. That's the play don't engage with that person. They're not trying to be shifty or Gresley of. They're just kind of letting the offense. Call the shots. Right. Yeah. They they engage way too much with blockers and. I'm a big believer. Football is block in tackling and other things. The big ones blocking walking into maybe blocking and tackling getting off blocks being able to block, and it just seems like this team is not doing any of that. Well, so maybe maybe this new defensive guy will what's his name Duffner Dafna? They call them Duff Duff Duff beer. I'm like, I thought maybe he'll get them back into the basics man cutters. After game press conference on Sundays this before Mike Smith gets canned. Said that we lost the turnover battle the last time. We gotta turnover Shona say Pittsburgh game. When ryan. There yet when Justin Evans made that interception. I wanna say it might not be right there. But we haven't had a turnover. I don't think the past two games, so Congo. No, no turnovers. And then of course, Winston had two yesterday. Boneheaded decisions. They both have were his fault. Yeah. With Godwin just threw it too low and it bounced off the helmet of the linebacker, right and Godwin's in the air if he would have thrown in higher Godwin would had to for a touchdown all day. But again, I wanna look at that on tape because how that wasn't passing out on them because God would never touch the ball. But yet he got tackled. I mean there were a couple of those that we saw during the game. We're we're alive. Why are you calling this? Julio Jones had to pick play. Yeah. Obvious sell obvious. And then Matt Ryan scramble to pick up the first down. Nothing. Calm. And but there was also quite a few penalties. We had that weren't called to. There was one where we've stopped a one third down. And the way we stopped them was Labonte David was covering the Roman back running back past David. So he just graduated jersey and pulled him straight to the ground. But that wasn't call. So I guess it all evens out. I wonder if we're apps do that. I wonder if they think oh, I missed that call. So I'm going to have to let one slide for the other team. Just seems like it always works out that way, we never have meth calls where perfect. Just look at our record. I heard I don't have. This is true. I hope it is going into week six in the NFC. They're only four teams that have winning records. Well, that's crazy. Weren't we like the best division lead or the best conference last year, the whole NFC? Oh the conference. Yeah. I want to say we had like two undefeated teams going in late it with Philadelphia was willing and somebody else. Yeah. The NFC was the dominant conference last year. I guess you got the AFC with Kansas City, just lighten it up. And then New England as usual. I mean, Pittsburgh. I don't know what their record is. But they're not they're playing pretty decent football. Did they Salafi? But then they give by the Bengals yesterday. Yes, they sure did the Bengals I think they're undefeated in talking on this point. Yeah. I know the Rams are undefeated yet raves. Revolt, man. I call dad that began in the air. He's calling them every year for like six years. That's not true. I called the Texans for like fully their AFC. Well, what impact the Texans Rams go to Super Bowl every year for like the last six year? Well, this is my year. Damn I year year Rams of finally going to do it a broken clock. It's right at least twice a plano doing. It who was it a guy that used to call stumbling around balloon. I'll stop Berman that's before my time Lewis done your intake young maybe how he used to pick the Buffalo Bills every year to win the Super Bowl because he didn't turn the four years that they went to the Super Bowl. So he picked them every year after that. And he said, hey, odds are in my favor eventually held for your bourbon. How's that working out for you row? Rams are going to the Super Bowl. I sure. So a few points from the game that we just watched. I liked seeing the running backs and the wide receivers they would make a catch at the sideline and they would like tiptoes. So that they didn't fall out of bounds. So they can try to extend the play it didn't work. I don't think it worked one time. But you like to see that the effort. Yeah. I don't like to see them run out of bounds. That's all the show on Jackson. Did it a couple of times where he'd run out of bounds? But the rest of them they would they would cut right back in and Jameis Winston tried to do that. And he got the clocked. Which I like that the is this the one where Jensen got all up in the you know, there's kind of a little brawl on the sideline little spring to see. Like to see. Like that the one in New Orleans from last year where Janus has pumpkin Lattimore in the back of the head and the new C ovens combs. News nail land of more. I don't care about that penalty. Oh. Yeah. Or mine got fan, but it's been a game for that wouldn't surprise me goody to shoot NFL. Right. I mean, come on this a contact sport. And you're gonna get mad when they hit each other. I I used to remember when they fight on the sidelines. They'd fight after every play. It really fought thing time, we need more fighting more fighting so passionate. But yeah, not upset about that. At all. Can we talk about our offense of line? Do we have to? I mean, I right. So we knock on Donovan Smith. I think every podcast, but he wasn't even the worst one this week. No, I'll tell you what been Anoc or been a niche or whatever his name is. We start calling Caleb came from. He is giving Donald Smith around for the money as far as bad offensive lineman. I mean, they're both going for the turnstile award. No doubt about that. And I thank seventy seven got it. He I wish we had an instance where like bene- knock and Donovan Smith are blocking alley Martin. We got plenty of screen shots of both of them watching the play on. Ben was I think truly turnstile I can't tell you. How many times I saw him get turned around? Yeah. Spun around with the guy that was that was the. The left defensive tackle right defensive tackle kept doing spin moves on him. And it was like better thought they were dancing. So he was oh this guy's leaving in spin. So I got to spend two or something and he would just end up spending right around don't knows weird stuff. But what we need to do is. I'm not a big fan of firing players or coaches or anything like that. But we've got Evans that were rotating in with Ben and knock we just need to take Ben and knock outlet and get some more reps on the practice squad or something or gets. He needs more time when he say Evans, you mean Evans Smith. How many Evans? Yeah. We got Mike Evans. We got Justin Evans. We get Evan Smith. It's very confusing. Yeah. Number two, sixty two. Yes numbers. That's why I always say numbers because you don't have to remember the names. Yeah. Number sixteen to needs to take the place of number seventy seven for the majority of the game. You know, let's sixty to get in there. Maybe for some run blocking you just getting some experience because it just seems like he is woefully unprepared. To take on professional NFL defenders has been enough. Been starting all season. He's been starter. All he hasn't played this bat every game. Really? You got so distracted by Don. Don, when I know it's he's always entertaining. The what does the silliest skull? But I mean, we've got Donovan on the left side. We got Ben a knock on the right side. Winston doesn't have a chance. That's why he has to scramble all the time. And these guys let. They will get the defenders will get the Winston within two seconds between the two of them. Somebody's always getting the Winston and two seconds. So sometimes both of them are whipping. Yeah. I think we saw a couple of instances of that too. When all twenty two comes out guys. I'll do the more of an analysis and give you more sad stories about the offense of line. But right now, just no just from view in the game. Ben, and all is a real ability just as much as Donovan Smith is if not more because you know, when you when a defender comes around from the tackle position as a little bit more time to quarterback hands. But when they come straight up the middle to the guard position, they don't have any time. So it did you notice that the stadium in Atlanta? And I mentioned this to you during the game was like half full. Maybe maybe sixty sixty five percent full. Dresses, empty seats. You get a discount if you if you come dressed. It was Halloween. Well, you know, is it a thing going around the league or something? Because I I'm seeing a lot of that in the stadiums. Tampa has had a hard time filling their stadium, of course. But very shaved that for the record. But Atlanta just went to the Super Bowl. Right. And they this new stadium brand new beautiful stadium. I wonder if it's the kneeling stuff, I don't know about all that could could be. I mean, I know quite a few people that have just quit watching football because of that. But I I don't know, man. Maybe it's just a price and so easy and more comfortable to watch at home because I go to games are expensive. I mean, what are we spending? It's. I mean, I looked into tickets for this game and to give it even a decent line. It was you know, two hundred and fifty dollars a person, and that we come from outta town sale that will be trout travel expenses and all that. And then that's just to get into the stadium. That's not for the beer in there. They got some of the cheapest concessions in the league Chick-fil-A gotta Chick-fil-A which is funny because Chick-fil-A is not open on Sundays now as no different with the point twenty one Monday night game. They get a year. You get to say they have a chick fillet. Understood. I guess that's true. Like the eagles have jail in there. Oh. How much would it suck though to go to Atlanta game on a Sunday? And you gotta walk around this damn Chick-fil-A. That's your clothes, Jordan. I want some delicious tickets out frying waffle fries. Oh, well, I don't know. Peyton Barbara had a great game. Again, you then he's going to be a good running back, and he has not shown his chops. But he did yesterday had some beautiful runs. But you know, how does that work in with the offense of line bright they played so bad? How's he pumping all these run? Most of them were to outside. Couple of them were to the inside. But they would bring the tide in inside to block. It was really strange matter of fact, I saw one eighty two all clear he came to block inside and fell down and fell in like not to people over and let the big hole for bar. All right. I see you. An average six point three yards of Keri which is highest of the season. He rushed eighty two yards and twenty four receiving. So he broke one hundred yard while I was at our first one hundred yards, but he did run for one hundred. I think we had like one hundred ten yards total with all the running bags in rushing. So I think we had a one hundred yard rushing game. Finally, okay. Yeah. OJ Howard did great. I guess a beast, man. How did he how he do on your fantasy team? I had him on the bench. Is that why you asked me? Yeah. I'll put Cameron braid in because I didn't think OJ house gonna play. Now. I got three tight ends on my team cut picked up Cameron break because I didn't think that OJ Howard was playing and I didn't think that also was going to play any good. Well, I was right about also that plane and again because he's put in. And in when they announced right before the game that OJ Howard was gonna play. I was like, oh, I don't know if he's going to play a lot of snaps or to just going to try and get him some work in. So I pulled both break and Howard and put Olsen, and I'm sitting there. I still won so whatever. But I'm sitting there looking at OJ, however, seventeen points on my bench, Olsen got me five hearts. Well, I'll tell you who's going next week juice, and can we some juice about idea Godwin had a great game. I really really really liked Godwin. He's just seems like a guy that loves football. He's got some athleticism to him that we haven't seen in wide receiver position Hillman Humphries seem like football players kind of guys they do this for free. You don't have say they would they would even pay. Yeah. Oh, God one has like no personality though. I cannot tell you anything about him. Now. See, that's that's something. A girl would say, I would I would never even think about players personality. You do all the time. Yeah. But you talk about oh on this the days when players have personalities like during the press conferences, they will come in and funny outfits. Yeah. Yeah. You got me God. Yeah. All right. So I'm half girl. He didn't know I listen to you sometimes to do. Really shocks me. But you know, you only bring this out when you want to prove me wrong or maybe look, suddenly, okay? Well, it was a tough loss. But here's what I got to say about that. And if you've listened to the podcast any, you know, this is my philosophy that dang good game. At the end of that the fourth quarter, I was jumping up and down screaming and acting a fool, and that's what I like to do. Give me any excuse to act a fool, and I'll do it first half. I was depressed because it looked like they were just gonna blow us out. But then the second half, we did good. Our defense stepped it up. We kept getting three and outs. And then we were marching down the field, which we didn't have a problem with the whole game. We just once we got down there. And when. Yeah. Even in the second half that happened. Right. Right. Winston's? Just you know, he makes bad decisions. I love him. He's he's my quarterback. But he does make bad decisions. And you know, he doesn't read the field. Well, but it was a dang good game. We almost want it, and it was inner -taining. And when it comes down to it. That's what this is football is entertainment and that was an entertaining game. Now, I am of the exact opposite opinion of most people. I don't want to win every game as a blow out it's nice to win. But I don't want to sit there and watch blowouts on either side. I like a good competitive game. How do you feel? I agree with that. I just want to point out that this is first Winstons first full game could point I can the see. So I think we need that kind of a little bit of slack. I I agree that he sometimes he makes dumb decisions, but he's got four five less games and the rest of the team. So I think we just need to kind of slack for that good point. Good point, Molly as usual. That's why I keep your end. All right, guys, the wrap up this podcast will get another one out. Probably Friday was a full analysis of the all twenty two and game. Yes. And we'll do a review review the Cleveland game coming up which gosh, man. We gotta win this one with data says Cleveland, I know they're playing good football. But it's Cleveland. This one would got to. I thought we were gonna win. I really do. Well, it was closed. We almost in. What was the final score predicted forty two thirty eight we were gonna win. What was the final score? It ended up being twenty nine thirty four a little bit off. That's okay. And we didn't win. Can't be right. All the time. I guess. Happy to do half the time. All right, guys. That's it for us. Well, we'll see on Friday. Go back.

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From Egalitarianism to Kleptocracy

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From Egalitarianism to Kleptocracy

"Hello everyone welcome to the new episode of his before. You jump onto listening to this episode. Louis it's might get your regular. Does a flight changing entropy on everyday them yet sort of every day doggies get back with another episode of guns germs and steel. And today have the do. You're almost as usual whiskered. Hulo and ohio have been becoming really slow regarding. I don't like the audience would know about it but yeah the audience were no but to be fair. There was a flood counseling. Yeah it's been it's been a couple of interesting of few weeks grabbed. I was seeing from instagram. That you were enjoying the nietzsche's and posting pitches and you know giving me a huge formal. It's okay you can enjoy the hopefully. Hopefully this book was so depressing. Times that i was like what the hell was you. Might you might be just boiled down to one word mortar. Look let's not jump. The gun will People who are joining this chapter this chapter for to this is the fifteenth episode. This chapter namus from egalitarian. Ism to kleptocracy applicable experience was number before that would be joining us for the first time i go. I know see. There are forty fourteen episodes in the cd's against daunting task. But i'm sure you'll enjoy them. You know be hide amazing conversations. What do x. or listen to begin with. It's really really amazing. And but if you still are feeding lazy and want kneecap as to the recap but let me go. So we started the book. The book has gone samson student data bank and we soccer answering the question of which daughter found out in asia. No way humans evolved did and we started with a step which was you know about human evolution from apes and all of their avi migrated to the different parts of the world from seven million years ago. The first one million and all of that. it's very interesting tyson. You guys go to that and then the next two chapters was i think one of our favorites as when we discussed the experiments with street where the multimodality to put an easy ideas The spaniards packing what was that Kamata it was pedal so that was interesting as well and then be jumped with all of the book. We were discussing the importance of food in a history of evolution shocking with wifi. Mors at important you know how did like did we get lawns or was adopted. In order to get dancer. Listened to that episode then. We made some jokes on almond episode. Then we need some indian jokes on the apples are indian episodes. Then we made some marriages joke on the zebra didn't and towards the end of the section behind. I think the chapter blueblood when we got to know dr accesses and the marketers longitude did rule in how human Unless you geography note. I'm sure you were annoyed. So guys and then we moved into the the third part. which is i think. Food as the last part of this but last episode of the starbucks where we started with you know Understanding what jumps and all that impacts on the world then division of writing then. We'd often the last episode technology and this episode in government and religion. You know everything that is right or wrong or favorite topics and not sure how much we stick to. The chapter. Content standalone vote on a tangent but State goes know before jumper noodles. The suffered had very many heavyweights okay. Galley dean is a democracy. Just tell us what would these words even need. Okay but enough of guided etienne ism chest is like a fancy word for equality it it means basically it talks about a concept which says that in all but in a society should have equal rights somber. Just simple enough to understand its basic water and let kleptocracies like the almost opposite offered that in the that has london bus and who is the head and everybody answers basically welcome who Increased the that that other gave him nor do stuff in in his name for his His benefit so will obviously look at a bed. Egalitarianism and leprosy have come into play how they've come into play. What are thirteen thousand year. History and jotted diamond himself starts with The most simple example where he talks about the fireplace That he came across in upper new guinea Not even live there. Were more like the people who were who lived completely by an isolated family units and they had no sutton all collected collect consensus community. They had no collected of collector sense of garment tunnels and so authorisation. Every so often they would come together like once every six months of soap. Who have a gathering and boone. Doc about issues and echo things and it would get really violent and it will get really no. That'd be lot of conflict and It was generally considered to be a very bad situation and that is how most of pop new guineans lived for many reasons that will find out later before we know what to add the important point. What happened when they occasionally met during those random meetings for six months or a year. What really happened during those needs. What would end up happening is that would be one family bus. Symphonic family who had killed other wasn't father and so That guy would come in a come and see that come in contact with the killer and he would be like you killed my father prepared to die and that would be all like you can't kill me. I'll kill your first and it would almost ended. Larry shirt like this question that he tries to answer. But how did we evolved from cited read initially be lifted lived in silos right and because we lived in some small groups video. Everybody and that's how we would not fight. And then we make some strange. It would becca jumping to mortar for somebody's the other. So how did we evolve from. You know living in a society like ours where one point. Three billion people live under this country. And you be. Don't kill strangers on a very frequent basis and in what were the factors with olive recliner to china So what data diamond was talking. Was that The people and the way they're that is wonderful one end of the spectrum which is which is on the opposite side of of what we call the warden society. He says that modern american society. And the fi- you foot in the presence or absence of a professional police money distinctions between rich and would and many other qualities economic and social traditions and he asks did all of those institutions are ice together or did some arise the for others. The question he's posing as that though society that we have now the complexity oh babe off on these institutions and organizations of working in bandundu kind of good make off make society function as keep out roads clean water in our houses are keeping electrcity going How does that work can. How did that come about. And how effectively does it still work. I mean he doesn't go into the latter part when at least howard how all these things are those and have less than an example because of the floods. I haven't had like we haven't had reported at water right. Fled the past few days because the pumping house around for the second payment to we also because the government is incompetent. That's a whole addity media basically Just to just to illustrate the point that how easy it is for society as for social structure as a whole do big balan when something like a flood happens is they. Don't have electrcity. you don't have water and for it to come back to normal make. The flood only lasted two days for to confer it to come back to normal. It's it's gonna take more than just like it just goes to show. How complex does societies and how fragile at the same time. I think there's an interesting thing because he They will dive more deep into that once to be known before sections which i think was more subdued but we weren't don't smart edwards from each of these accents but Many mentions that held society's evolved into four different categories not move from one category to other initially if you're bags than tribes chiefdoms states so going from the beginning i think Bands will dozens of dozens of people banding together and living together and it arose not from minamata human beings something that arose from animals even animals late bonobos chimpanzees all of them live in earned the momentum africa anyway so and that that is how was. I'm sure there won't be one single human being lying or roaming around africa without any other person living ballet. I'm sure that it's not possible. That is good and then bee's lowliest most was prevalent leaving. We could see even today right. There are some tribes in undermanned. They subscribe sean in Those obstacles pacific islands are saved by the activists and anoxia infiltrated by the government trying to revamp delays or report again. It's just a moon combatants to hundreds of them where the little there was. No i was a hierarchy in that sense in both of these accents because people as mentioned earlier i knew each other and so they would attack each other or they would you know activity food or if were hunter-gatherers would again advanced mendy let us entry is down developer try living close proximity the most exciting point out when you look deceased started talking about student state and that he wins over to fame. They talked about how you've expanded version of grapes. So tonight thousands in numbers and that is where the first be moved from egalitarianism to infancy. You're typically where behind the concept of centralized spot had the concept of every chiefs who distinguished by the federal taps. Accent highlight and. It's just like reading. The who chief competing the ideal of the of what struck me as most interesting was i kept wondering about who was one person in every kind of in every bribe basically was just like a next picchu and that guy was just like i take advantage of the diversity of these people and just say that that is a guard that lives not. He has deigned to be a king. Basically every type has a low-key and let located is to create a whole fictional hierarchy who basically for the sole results ruling would other. And it's it's it's an innate kind of affliction or a disease that some people have that they have to kind of they're gonna look has to kind of find somewhere to lord over. Find someone to over. you know. it's the same kind of these people. And i think that's how most chiefdoms gave about. Oh he mentioned that. Not august like i understand. You know there is that but then there are some good luck like delegated. Look what can you guys normal. Look this chiefs chiefs like in the maui regenerate where again. He mentioned this book that region not the modality read. The population was so less. Even though there was chief he must vary just chief right because it seems that was the first time the concept of taxes game over now what his taxes basically you know the people who are developing through surplus foods they will give it to the chief and redistributed amongst others. Who are not doing. let's say shape. What other things. It's basically compensation exactly and in the military region league. Whatever the chief us to get usually when hot as the others yeah. He used to hide that a hat pasta. Everybody but he used user distribute all the food everybody so basically you know that more justice but then obviously that could not survive. I for that one case of just stiff thousand cases of unjust used. Who were basically you know. Taking hundred amounts of shooting fifty and keeping fifty for themselves or people who just student ten and kept nine themselves and basically became the sole rulers with billions and billions of. I don't know of footprints. I love this late. I ought to mention it before. I release you mentioned with the rice chiefdoms. I don't seven thousand five hundred years. People have to learn for the first time in history how to encounter. Strangers regularly built attempting to kill. What does it innate need people like is it just the last what part looking in each. It's it must be like a combination of fear and breeding knocks. That makes up. Listen gillan on the because Me avi had such warrior active. Imaginations that We kind of create scenarios head. That innova kind of lead us to believe that berra's this held that is waiting for us and levy that do avoid that ellis tequila in all on lake of me like maybe. It's an overactive imagination. Maybe it's a lack of imagination that you don't see any other alternatives then killing people. That had simpler do Mortar someone and and of invoke fear and other people rather than kind of peacefully resolving it or rather than finding contentment. In what you have or what you can get arch you know. I think it's a genetic flaw. Bide see this because remember in in in december as well but this Not mentioned that because humans of their inability to remember more than undergrad so faces and impossibly you certain fueled members are on your house and you know your extra family and you know that they're good people you'll go to them and the others who do you don't really care at all. Okay now people back then they also have those limitations. I don't know about the few people that they are into bit and they've never met. You must be eliminated of you know. There are people in asia people in america australia different accents different communities and all of that but back then people were living in the small banks of nevada. People like them but they were only people around them. And maybe you know in hundred people around but when they encountered types from different places who they might look a bit different not huge lot they might even if the same it will be somebody. They've never encountered that primal instinct. Right if you see an animal you tried to kill them because well they're animal will hurt you. I think dot instant has taken over. And what i think you plenty. I don't know why. I heard what game i think this might be. The reason why you know via the timing. It makes sense makes us that we have this Fight applied instinct an activist. I've ever since we met gonna find gabrielle's i we had to kind of genetically evolved to share certain things or like guilt and things they don't so it might be that we had completely showed that art of our evolution and that is some articles that still goes back to the who the what what we call the savage mind you know and we have completely shared out of the completely become these intellectual being stacked up at noon efficient getting captured mukalla through an odd. I would just say that if you develop you wouldn't being Who would who has the ability to remember like a billion or two like that person slaughtered right because he knows a billion or two people. I'm sure they're not. He's not killing that many people. And what would eventually become an. Is it mr lin bulky. Moving aside from Fantasy were does this section. I wondered and this was so amazing. I just reading you. That'd be the point. Has he said what should an elite do gain popular support while still maintaining a more comfortable lifestyle than commoner's alleged person that he asked that it'll step by step guide on how to become a restrict grad or ruler of become a capitalist that earn enough and just be up to the governor's i always think about this question because if you look at Actually sanal contemplates look at relations late. The politician the indian politician is they had a certain type of stay of are can be speaking like they referred sort of language or languages. They live in certain kinds of houses the house or of values out certain kinds of lives. And it's it's it's an archetype that's been cleared that writes that doug and because it it seems to react well with the common people so even if lake Say that a politician who has accumulated a lot of wealth either legally or illegally If he has to connect with people then he obviously will always kadijk lords completely hate him traveled in lake. Nona mellish college exhuberant denotes or these. Bmw's got was. You have to put up like this kind of facade that allows you to connect with people while you why you kind of new two sided It all in secret. And this is your. If you read this this this happens on their name. You have you noticed who who Was kind of people who They know how to trigger a certain kind of emotional response in dot com and populists though. Get them on your side. Even if they may not Inherently believe it i just it onto the hoop went which you mentioned. You should leave people in suspense. And on the first one decided disarmed. The buffalo's an armed elite just removed the guns from the common public dansko settled. And that would be the minute. I don't know like water. Type achieve. Agnes would points. I guess we get to the second one. Was i think what i think. You already disgusted. Where he said that made him happy by redistributing much of their tributaries so whatever taxes by receive of you'll reinvested backup public because if you try to keep for yourself. At one point the commoners will not In a bed and we lose of the government does the politicians. They have figured out a smart way to of a insist if you look at the. Us journey that the us has unza thought of say they have a whole problem that intrastructure they have healthcare crisis. They have a they have a border. That's been of no that's completely matala. and beefing. And derelict solve any problems that the us is going to. But they're they're kind of at least the solve. That problem is it'll like do injustice making a tax cut off enduring the binding. Macdill week of your stimulus. Check this this amount of money instead of actually doing what is necessary instead of actually doing what should be done of minimize the damage. Even if it's not as bad disputing a bunch of monies would it be out as long lasting as the years. Go good health care system. If you the citizens of the us would get Had lead from the start they would need local norton. One thousand dollar check just to survive to the binder. So it's stuff like that you make the masses happy by Not doing these gestures but not really not really changing in my very limited knowledge of us again low-maintenance the way it seems to have a problem. The only solution crony added and that is what they're so much today so even though they have no plans and paying the suggest but even though that he was. Us dollars very strong and all of that but the country lives on trade of loosened somebody else's money some sort other. Wendy amman doc. Come back to the point. That though going to the point he mentions Using the monopoly of force to promote happiness by maintaining public order and coping. While this is an interesting point. I would because initially his heard of mentioning that you know people who went booty sorts this brampton tribes or this or no mortars happening between them and it made sense said five of them living together the mauri each other hardly people will be left but a pointless exercise but then after was determined who others football as as he got to know model was the leading offered amongst them rather than doing this and there is a lady would read. That many asks that lady that what happened to your husband. Yes so there's a he asked salman or cut husbands at and she basically he mentioned that answer was named this. My first husband was killed by illegal. Vitas my second husband was killed by a man who wanted me and who became my toward husband. That husband was killed by the brother of my second husband seeking to avenge his margaret and so on and so forth. I didn't make sense if it wasn't. Let's go your police force. And all of that are living. Side of police brutality by If you have a effective losses you bend to live in a safe mindset will happen to you and you can go in early not like the ideal wished but come into the ford and i think this is what wisconsin did order as well. The remaining for progress begin. Public support is concerned. Ideology or religion justifying percy. See this is. This is empty. This is this is guards and capitalism and this is this is one of the biggest lease and swipe why people are so antagonistic towards each other these things. He mentioned slander. The activists they were hawk. Line to the. I guess it made sense. Because i don't know which you talked about. Was something on feeble. Where you how. It wasn't in the episode when we were discussing. How this ideologies your return towards the country. It means if you look at it with nothing it just please. You're staying in the features into the country of your devotion towards religion. Makes you so blind that you are ready to give up your life. Wassily calls for award for the lake. It's and that is what right you don't use your objective. Might that could happen to you your family and all of that. You sacrifice all of that just just exercise of one trying one kingdom. Thank you so of the other throughout history If you're tried to guess lert people's motivation solo would of flooding all beijing for a engaging in such wind being late rallies inside. You've been justify it lately. You think that you're doing it to protect your data shooting. You're doing it for the people you love the think you're doing it for the ideology believe that leads missile would but in the end it in hindsight when you look when you when you are going to war it all seemed so right than just justin natural but when you look look back at it in hindsight it's nothing but just destruction then mindless debt and just look people need to stop. People need to stop and just just look at things. In hindsight i before jumping and dude going the same thing again and again this. That's how we keep going in. You know that's that's all. My point was about the knicks. You'll be talked about all of these. Sports exit stripes band stood up the states and all of that and states. Obviously we give. But it's just the extension of cubans were your thousands and now we have billions living in china india. And all of the so. That's basically states that he will have sort hierarchical in some but you have elected leaders and all of that. It's up this all the other things like that but by talking about all of that is the midwest we need to get something out. Jared price to kind of examine though. Examine the way people write. Blake's lena this lady of Stamps so he mentioned start the length russo. Who gave the division. So for why lee live in the site that we do that because people are social animals because there is an added social contract between us between each other between us at the government. All this we had me laundering at law could might ask Stuff and what it handed. What comes out of all the all this discussion. Is that not enough people who were talking about all this stuff really scientists. They weren't really going for the acts on any sort of logical it was more like theorizing nationalizing and writing the hundred page. Teases that Will you know over the something. Been flood the hundreds of years to the more in the moral university double you kind of become disillusioned with that you can write a five hundred three about property You you literally pulled out of that is based on betty little our tooth and yes did generally that has some interesting insight senate bud it should not be considered gospel by any means because if we look at the world as a whole that there's no way to have a singular theory of y y society's embroiled dobie dated over what diamond or across the world you know so i think that is the biggest believe that jared diamond is asking us to Asking us to read from this chapter. That's wild there are factors that can explain certain aspects of why certain societies or why the logical directory of no band stripes. Chief from state happened to be but we cannot really of applied as a blanket formula to any sort of given problem of any certain society. That is what i'm to mention. That would love putting teams out of the You've tried to break down to the most logical sense that i need to understand like he did with this problem because initially at the beginning of the chapter and then he answers towards the or answers autism through but this time he actually grow questions even portliness city busy asked that invited people into states because stripes backs things would have been fine. We would be living in silos offensive and the final place no abrupt models happening. What am i the but we evolve into us and then the muslim get conclusion. Who draws is that population grew and if more publicity gross population density rose more and more people in a place. And we've been in a place then to band together. That is how logically and there is some truth to discount. But why did this happen. Why did it involve involvement kleptocratic whereas you could say maybe haida. Initially people adopted slavery. You know they used to use up other lines and they used to take slaves and then they into chiefdoms where you know. They tried to sell it back to the society as well. And then all of that. But intersex i remember who's got on top mature in one of the audio episodes about this catalysts participate. Where what are you gonna problem. Food-production evolve because they were too be put or because of us to food production evolve. Or did i say the same thing twice guys understand that okay. So yeah so the idea. Is that the was it. The food production was a good one population and then because the more opposition the ideal society steve dumps and a stable so basically when she the other and the bullet keep throwing gutter and i think he just three. I think three or four years. Which would i think. I really like them. That you know by this is according to invited reward lots of eighties and cyril staying as you don't hundred got the Giggled within the post. One lee mexicans that the already talked about different people if decorating people in the group you interact with them. You know them but if you you know everyone of them and they start murdering each other at the music so out in order to system so that they could maintain law and order or lack of morward window. You don't keep people in the secondaries any human since that decision making becomes a challenge and if anyone was group project knows if there's more than six people do and imagine having the thousands of people and people taking decisions impossible in a state that it should be elected leaders who will take decisions on our behalf and just like the guys moving forward toward one obviously economic concentrations because in a smaller groups. You can trade in trading about to system all of that but as you as you might say if all do because you can't be like okay. This is my. I live in this tati nickel land and if i need something i'll go into my border. A doctor maybe this will attack something and i'll unified with them things that way. So you're not really properly economy. And but uniform producers can feed us food and we can provide them with law and it solutions depending on our professions so state and then the last thing he since about inappropriate in dense densities. And i think that mrs circle lots of which dr something similar dementia was that you know as there are more people more people crammed into the small area. And you can't make okay. This is my idea this one boxes my this under the boxers yours not logically possibly even though there are certain level of that of this border is india. This water spot. I'm sorry vehemently volume to a good start record utopic world but the stall good hopes that i have and to basically summarize this whole chapter the idea of people coming together to form. Any sort of hierarchy or society was inherently important to the production of Why this chapter macktaz in the larger sense of the book is that these. The people had to come together to form. These types of different types of societies formed the this complex obama instutions orgnaizations and people who look into visual each other. Some of them up with some of them hulu each other's all they had to come together in the way dirt for to basically create though. I tabuk status guns jumps and steal. If society's had not formed by way of states by all these countries in our nation's border and ideas of these ideologies that justified uplift crissy's the would not have a john vance johnson steam which Which in itself is a question. He would be better off the doubted as it stands if look at history obeida. These things avoid led to the rise of Jobs and steve and that is why we are here so what were beard gulag cosby banded together and formed associate these all be good movie from making dusk. Food depend on other people and work on improving ourselves for the good for the back essentially. Remember that geared. Start out your wife fight funding though i find that you're using Came from the debts of thousand talking to sympathies guys. It's an but. I think that and you don't seamlessly speaking those remarks but it's imported there's no original mission of accent right improve from there and also known about become from and You know initiative of knowing our history. And i think in the next part of this book i think what you're really really excited about their we. I think they're fortified jeopardy's bits. Each of them been starting with. I one zero and second when i think was good as what excited about is the china china became chinese and then again i think the first one is the people the again australia then we have our eurasian medic automotive africa the of japan so so much more exciting coming. Your way of this is history. I want to read. This is what. I was most excited about medina via had to get right. We know that. In how kim up until this society we had the would need eason. I started reading this book Was because i thought that the whole book was going to be this in all told part that you'll coming about that will coming through your from the next episode. And that's why i said to me. Let's to of out of your this and that but leading the first city parks now. It's opened up so much of. It's kind of opened up my perspective of so much that i've grown alexi Closer to understanding the frustration that ovulation teams. These days not may be the go ahead of the auburn linemen. Fifth ancestors anything This general idea that of the a- generating co. more depressed more cynical generation and this book kind of helps you to understand why these are the way they are. And if you're gonna stein something if you're going to understand the problem. I think you can really like help yourself. Figured out we to find peace with the find solution stored so i think in that way. This book has been a really great education for me and yet now five what is going to be desert going to be the hunt. Park was looking forward to that. Just gives my league in all of that and become a demand will be in the next episode. Then they say. Make good use of thank you for listening to this episode. Follow us on social media and do not if you want to be part of the next episode. Live long and prosper.

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Tim Donaghy

The Business of Sports With Andrew Brandt

38:25 min | 2 years ago

Tim Donaghy

"Goes welcome to another edition of the Businesses Sports with Andrew Brand really special edition here on Friday November first. Is the release of the new movie about Tim. Donaghy you remembered him. The official that allegedly fixed NBA Games were shown the door by Commissioner. David Stern the biggest scandal in the NBA in terms of officiating and potentially gamble. There's a movie about him. It's about inside game about all the things that went on with him and his buddies in this book making that went on thirteen years years ago. The movie is out. I interviewed him and his crew and the producer of the movie who is cousins. With one of Tim's best buddies that was heavily involved in us and I'm taking some clips from that interview where sat down with him on a panel in front of Villanova University. And I'm going to have some clips here for you inside game. Tim donaghy the REF that went to jail for fifteen months for what he did in terms of Bookmaking and illegal illegal bets being made on NBA Games. I'll have that free in a minute. As always we are presented by bet online your online sportsbook experts. They're the exclusive partner. Of course course podcast one sports net use that Promo Code podcast one. Get Your fifty percents on a bonus today bed online dot. Ag My rant into the week before we get to Tim Don he is really about the NFL. Trading deadline and it was a dud for a lot of people because we talk about the business of the NFL fell and juicing up the business of the NFL with a hot stove trading deadline. Like we have a little bit with the NBA and certainly with the MLB Major League Baseball. But you know it's not much happened with the NFL all though the NFL had a lot of trading going on with Jalen Ramsey Number One and then much earlier Laremy Tunsil two number ones we had Leo Williams going from the jets to the giants we had some other trades. Emmanuel Sanders going from Denver Enver to the stammer to San Francisco had a blank for a minute. A little senile moment and of course Muhammad's comet's Going from Atlanta to England's all those traits did happen that WanNa talk for a minute about one of the deadline. Because what was interesting to me. This was an NBA trade. This was a business of moneyball trade. A keep to leave the veteran. cornerback in the rams traded to the dolphins who everyone's talking about tanking and getting being the first pick and really starting over and they have no intention of playing a keep to lead you know he'll be waived he'll be bought out these terms you hear with. NBA Trades regret take on salary to get another asset and in this case they take on about four and a half four point three million. What's left to leave salary this year? In order to get along with a fifth round picnic they gave us seventh. Rounder way in the future which to me has little to no value. So basically they're getting a fifth round. Pick Nick to take on the asset. We saw little bits of Brock Osweiler for years ago. Where Houston traded osweiler and a second round? PICK TO CLEVELAND. Soclean won't take take on the sixteen million. Get a second picking return now. They're taking on the four point. FIVE MILLION GETTING A fifth round pick return it's not the same giddiness that nerds like myself. Have about the ASS wiler trae but we do have a little bit of a Nerdy skittishness Good way that this happened in the NFL where we're actually seeing moneyball type trades where the dolphins who were processing not tanking processing doing what the sixers did years ago. Doing what the Astros Stroz of done just sort of taking on president assets that have little value liked to leave in order to get future assets now fifth round pick is not a first round pick trigger second. I guess it's not a huge asset but good for them good for the dolphins in of course they could take on four and a half million dollars I got the lowest payroll in the league. Report brought a spot rack is that it's a hundred and thirty eight million dollars. That's ridiculous one hundred and eight eight million dollar cab just shows how. NFL teams can play play the system and underpay collectively the way the dolphins are so they may even needed to take on four million to sort of help them get to the minimum spending. which by the way is only only judge every four years? Don't get me started on that. So here we go one trade on the deadline day it was a money ball. NBA like trade to lead goes to the dolphins have no intention of having to leave on their team. You can still rehab in L. A.. Whatever he's GonNa do and they'll pay them and they'll pam am because they're paying four and a half million dollars for fifth round pick you know if it is it worth it? I don't know. Is it worth worth Cleveland to get a second rounder. For sixteen million was at work back when the Eagles took traded Sam Bradford after paying him. Eleven million dollars. You know you see what's out there. You see what the market is and you deal deal with it. So that's my ran out of the week Another quick one. I gotTa turn to baseball because the world series ended last night. It's now Halloween. It ended on Wednesday Wednesday October thirtieth. And you know I'm born and raised in Washington. DC My family's there. My childhood friends are all their debts. My home and it's just great to see the nationals. But I can't say that I'm a fan. I can't say that I have this long. Lost love for the Washington nationals. Of course I don't. I never grew up with them. They it came like fifteen years ago. I was long gone from. DC as a resident by then but so many friends and family that invested in the nationals. These fast fifteen years yes and I feel for them. It's just great and the one name that I think of a lot of people especially I know a lot of younger people. Listen to this podcast. They're not gonNA know this name. Shirley Povich judge. They remain know him. As the father of Maury Povich of TV fame and to me the grandfather of Doug Povich. WHO's my best friend growing up? So I sort of sad. At the heels of Shirley Povich is the imminence sports writer for the Washington Post. Cover The Washington. Senators senators asked what they were called before they left and came back as the nationals later. for for decades Covered back in the you know whenever nineteen twenties with Walter Johnson Surely Love Baseball Shirley loved covering baseball. And I just think of him as now nationals. Win At all I was lucky. You know I hung out with his with his family and they were tired of hearing Shirley stories as we're all tired of hearing grandfather's tell stories over and over again but I was enthralled hearing stories about Walter Johnson hearing stories about Babe Ruth hearing stories about ty Cobb hearing stories about these great Joe Dimaggio Joe. Mickey Mantle I sat at the toe of Shirley Povich so thinking about the nationals and those like my friends sounds even my family that got so into the nationals over the past years. It's a great thing if there's one thing that making can galvanize the bipartisan DC Z.. or highly partisan DC. Maybe it's the nationals title town. They got the capitals the mistakes and the nationals in. We don't need to talk about their the football team. Okay let's get into. I'm GonNa give you kind of a blow by blow of what I was asking Tim donaghy and the panel about. And then I'll let you hear the answers. Okay so again this is my set up. We're GONNA talk. We're I did a panel at Villanova University with Tim. Donaghy on a he. Tommy Martino which was buddy and Tommy was the guy that sort of ran the bets between him and another guy named Batista A and this is all documented now in a movie. It's a feature film motion picture starting November one thousand theaters nationwide produced by by a friend of mine. Paul Martino the cousin of Tommy who is on the panel talking about how the movie got made so let's without further ado. Let's get into the panel. It's here from Tim in Donnie and others. My first question got into Tim Don he and getting paid for the information. He was providing to the book. The bookmakers so my first question to tim was how much was he getting. Paid per. Bet while making these beds while he was refereeing. NBA The games. He said that it was two thousand dollars per correct pick and whether won or lost you know I was supposed to get two thousand dollars. I think we are record. Something like thirty five and seven or something like thirty five and eight and because what he was doing on the side it should all work out out. It just didn't because he got online poker and different things lost a lot of the money that he he should have won. Okay I then moved to Palmer. Tina the producer of the movie of venture capitalists. WHO's been involved a lot of things? I knew him from being involved faneuil. He's on the original board for handle handle. I asked Paul who he was telling about himself. And how he got into. The movie. So Tommy's my first cousin. Dad's brothers My Day job jobs. I run a venture. Capital firm invested a lot of companies and sports gaming and gambling worked with a lot of professional athletes. Backers of my companies was on the board of Fan Dole for five five years was the first. US investor. And when I was involved in one of the companies my dad called me up. Says Cousin Tommy's under a federal wiretap. Don't answer the phone the next morning I read. ESPN's front page and it said referee. Tim donaghy under investigation. And it didn't take rocket science to figure out that those things were related plated. These two guys have been best friends since I was born. They're both older than me. They've been best friends since so I was like okay but we are I I so so four years went by these guys were incarcerated. You know you might talk about that when we get to that these guys went. They didn't put them in know. Country Clubs Up's the League was out to make sure that there is an example of these guys and after four years. Tommy got out Tommy's trying to get back on his feet and he got offered a life rights steal from a third party and it was one of the it was one of the most egregious contracts I had ever read. I mean they were if if anyone was trying to take advantage of you it was these guys and so I said Tommy how by Your Life Rights. I mean. He's literally just like a favor. You know the guy a couple of bucks get him on his feet and a couple of lucky breaks happened including running into an old friend who was from Haverford who be colby buyer twice when he was on lower. Marian guy named Andy Callahan who is a burgeoning screenwriter. Who went to school with the two guys wrote the hangover visit? Andy You WANNA meet my cousin and the two of them spent two years on the phone going back and forth north script and then the ball started rolling. And we're like Oh my God maybe maybe watching make a movie out of this thing. I then asked Tim as this movie. Movie was being made and and Tommy to how did they feel about this movie being made about what they were doing about this whole scheme they were running running in great detail. How did they feel about this movie? Being made I was approached a lot about you know movies being done but I was kind of sensitive about the whole thing was really hard on my family. And it's going to be hard to relive it. It was hard to relive it last night. It was hard to you know see The pain of the cost so many people. So it's tough to You know continue to have the story coming back up even though it's ten years old so you know. Unfortunately I've just come to the realization that it's part of my life and what I did. It's not easy but you know you. I then asked him about his relationship with his dad. Tim's father referee as well college. How he got into it? How did he get into riffing? How much his father helped how how that was important? theme of the movie. The father son. I asked him about that. My father father was one of the top college basketball referees. For about twenty five years this area did the final four for three straight years so when I graduated from Villanova bovine a couple of different jobs didn't like any of them. I had started refereeing and my mom said that the kitchen table night launch pursuer careers and NBA referee. I thought how could I really do that. I've made a couple of phone calls set a couple of letters next thing I know I was out in California a couple summer leagues and and got chosen to be in the CBA which was at the time the minor leagues of the NBA. From there. They were looking for younger. Referees and I was hired at the age of Twenty Six uh running up and down the floor Michael Jordan Shaquille O'Neal Toby Bryant top world. What was your like apprenticeship in severe Long I was three years in full-time making one hundred dollars a game and given twenty dollars a day for food so tim was no you know glamorous life at that time it was a lot of this and I think there was twenty five of us in out of Mike Clash. Three of us were higher. So it's a lot of hard work in a lot of faith that you were going to work hard and be that person if they chose so. I was fortunate to be one of those people. Then I asked about you know any personal vendetta. That he saw referees have with players and he spoke very truthfully honestly and candidly early about that and then I asked specifically about owners. He mentioned specifically mark. Cuban who was an owner. That's kind of drew. The wrath of referees explains why so all of that is here in his answers in the NBA. Everyone knows that You know the best thing for the League is for series to go seven games after the fourth game of NBA series. I think it's something like twenty million dollars for each additional gain. So what they would do with the referees is they would sit. Did you in a locker room. It'll every morning the day of the game and go over film of the previous game and they would tell you that they want you to concentrate on certain certain things that night Liyel. Ming was traveling in the Post. And they want you to concentrate on that. Maybe Koby Bryant was moving his pivot foot they would show you play after play after flight and it always was floored that team that was down in the series. Seem like they were going to get the advantage of the calls of what the League wants you to concentrate that night and that would kind of help string the playoff series out the four five and sometimes six and seven games which would generate a lot more money the League League office and that was other stuff that I used in picking these games knowing when teams were GonNa put at an advantage or disadvantage even talked about personal vendettas about players. Sure their time with referees. Where you know you had controversy with flowers? I had problems with she'd Wallace and one night. He waited for me out in the parking lot and wanted the fistfight me. So stuff like that when you didn't get along with a player or if you did get along with if the player you know It spilled out onto the floor. I know when a lot of the Villanova guys on the floor I would make small talk with them and say You Know Talk With Father Rob and laugh and joke around you know at times. You know you'd find yourself. Maybe giving them not making up calls we've given and you know the call that they deserve where you might let that go in the flow of the game so just relationships really played a role of positive and negative within the referees out on the floor and then what about ownership you talked about I think at your when you're in the league's kind of a new owner was was mark Cuban and he had done things that no owners were doing before when mark came into the League. He really wants to hold the referees accountable because he we saw these things I kind of just threw out at you and he wanted the rules to be enforced as they were written in the rule. Book a no deviations from it so everybody was on a fair flying field. He wants to referees to improving and get better. He had the League Institute. You know us all with laptops and and make us breakdown game tape. After the Games and a lot of the older guys we're used to just go to the bar and drinking until they will up the next day on the flight for the next game it you know some of the older guys spice amid hated on to the point where you know they would taunt and during games and do certain things to the baby happened removed from the Games and You know it's just another jampel. How relationships positive and negative you know could influence wouldn't that be upcoming spreads games then asked the group sorted so you know in terms of getting caught a Hesse what tipped off the FBI? Oh you were there answers to me ninety new this for the longest time so for twelve years we had no idea how really called and it came out recently. Ah Yes. Pin Article that Batista the Guy With the organized crime connections. He of course he was in debt for seven point. Five a million dollars so he took this guy or the in game cry found his. Name's Popeye he passed away and so he took him to a Yankees phillies game and he said listen. I'll get your money back. I got an MBA resume hip pocket and his name is Tim. Allegedly they had mold in Gambino crime. Family is kind of Popeye told somebody and leaked to the FBI on and so we got caught. They were investigating again crime family. They got lucky. Quote a wiretap where this guy said that a referendum in my hip pocket and his name's ten okay in these series of answers. I asked Tom Martino. No Tim's buddy. End Him about their time in jail in terms of how they survived. What went on in jail really candid? Frank can honest and frankly startling answers about where they were. They're both in different places in how they survived. How they got through the time they spent in lockup in jail so interesting answers here? Who is your son's Year day suspended Brooklyn? MDC deep broker. I spent we're at Guy Epstein home so and I got thrown on. Hold for thirty days where he was and I know why I thought if you don't kill yourself they try to kill you. They torture. I was in bed. Played Nice run. I did hard time torture more because of what you did or just everyone there is. Yeah I remember the word income up Kimmy work give me a word and get your word and every day I was panicking. Losing my hair had atrophy sitting. Because I've lost fifty pounds. I was down one hundred twenty seven pounds but I kept asking for the warden and then he came to my finally. The warden visits the whole once a week. I got thrown in the hole. Which is another story? Tim My book but I got Turn Hall and whistle to the whole is called the special. The housing units called the show. It's where they send you to protect you but it's worship because solitaire solitaire claim. Get your you go there dating protecting I mean I saw two people get hold on Gurney. That died in there while I was in there and every once in one got it dead for like eight hours so what they did was it. They got in trouble they got. They got their risk slap wrist. So they had to go. Did everybody's cell once in every two hours shine a flashlight in and you had to move to make sure you're still alive so I I forget to question but I hope I answered I mean would was. The question is so how was through the year would would drove you family Samya in my family. I hurt her family in process. I wanted to get out. I knew I could do it. That's what it was said. The king sell filing on myself. He was doing a torturing say keen to myself and I sit and jumped off my cot and I said listen I the ship. Here's what happens. Martina he goes. I know more about you. Do He gave stressing Martina. And I said my stressing dressing. I said Holy Shit Myself. I said Yeah they got. They're they're they're trying to do this to me so he enlists Zombie. He didn't give a shit when I had to say so I knew right then I had a mental is. I knew if I was GONNA get out of that hole. I had to change the way I was thinking so I changed my whole way thinking and I remember the next week when he came by jumped up on my bunk and I sat down across my legs I had booked half off off the ending to try jumped over honestly relaxing. You should walk by say Martine stressing. I'm doing good but it was tough trying to torture me they. They were shot because I didn't give them what they want. I thought they they were trying to put the screws to me Tim. Where were you Laura? I was in Pensacola was in Commando County jail. I was a couple of places actually buy from the hair. Warehousing thrown back in jail solitary carrie confinement for supposedly being somewhere permission so once once you're in that system it's stopped to get apple matter who we are you know. How were you treated not good? I was attacked. Ah Somebody who claim to be associated with the game being Until the paint roller to might need to operations later still not and where it should be so splashed all over the TV dollars requiring leaves for the government not believable. That you want when you're gone in federal prison so you're quit. We tabled Ravin. You know sixty seventy percent China people in there really. Nobody knows but since mind was front page news everybody knew so I was asked about the movie themselves. L. They're actors that played them. Of course the actors being portraying Tim Donaghy and Tommy Martino asked what do they think the actors portraying them did a great job. I think we'll SASSA please teased it. I think he should get nominated for some type of word and talk about the two guys playing you. It's tough really say. They did a good job in Paris that this story being retold so but they did a good job. DOC thankfully I think maybe it's the good job with Arthur degree. Jobs my dad. He killed my girlfriend Stephanie. Working in this survey questions I asked in the interesting answers about with legal sports betting abetting now. How would that affect things? Would things have been different with sports legalization of sports betting legalization like we have today. I asked him about that. I also asked about Tim in any specific games or calls and he did talk about a two thousand. Seven Suns Spurs playoff game. Here I remember reading through. It was actually a list of that year and our got this line. That's seven team specific series. We had supervisor Lima's Tommy Nunez. He was Phoenix. He didn't Lego Star Phoenix Zone. He Senior Tonio limelight. In San Antonio and He was a supervisor data tire series and he was over the game. Show me love and concentrate on another call and was supposed to go into go into in Europe. Because he wanted to San Antonio to dance he wanted to go back and get a wave wife and the next year so that was You know I wonder how different people different influence games then asked him about. `Bout any players that stood out one especially taught like to talk about Rasheed Wallace and any other favorite players he enjoyed roughing manning amy problems with here on a lot of times. You know spy novel feel Smart Alor Sarcastic situation where they were winning by twenty points talked the ball our apartment call. His backside has turned around report with that so I started screaming. Yana Search Committee on background and he was in the parking lot of the game situation studio scare. I'm not GONNA and will be hit me so you know without happy said this whole scandal in radio show with him and out. He might be no problems on the work. I just wanted you to know professional. The you know you turn with different person you start between those mines competitive nature just this through the roof. He says I really voted. You recover from this in your family doing well which really any favorite players definitely gardening Robinson on their got one hundred. I really unusually caught it in a salad plate. Good he got hit right across. The whistle was a time out. He he mouthpieces automations at Union call. Fastened edition goes you know what workout so you know so many got off Hawk Line Darin. You remembered professionalism that they showed you still. Aw That's valley forge your call then as to what is life is like now here in two thousand nineteen Tim Janis Life. What's his day to day like off right now? I got I got I got out of jail. Seven eleven with the guy and young one way to get approved for one and then we never did and I never got involved in the Senate eleven but he said at the time of the real estate crash killing real estate. I said career. We'll see. What are you kidding me? Not Spiro. Steve There's fifteen houses for Sale Street and he brought me in the House of showers. Sixty thousand dollars around Dan. I said what do my sixty thousand dollar house is rundown and you know I would never buy it today tomorrow so I bought it to fifteen people in the door. One initially back in two thousand nine and with that guy wanted once later got another one. So now basically Lia Wind Lord we have properties allow properties and just go to day-to-day little things a lot of progress. I I never have drill loan visit properties. I got back to a specific calls. I know. We talked about that Son's first playoff game but I asked him specifically was there any particularly egregious call that he could remember making his answer. I don't think there's As I said we'll hear the you know I never out in a game in via call to make sure any bad one I mean as aren't really Not and you're GonNa Miss Walsh from time to time and I certain you know was with somebody that this calls I never out purposely league I asked about restitution that was part of their deal that they made with the feds in their sentences and restitutions interesting concept in terms of paying back money. There's the interesting answers they had about restitution and their third running mate up at Teesta Feasta interesting answer about restitution the restitution like I said was went down in two hundred twenty five thousand dollars join sterile and they came to me probably three years after roll out of jail. The role in Motley Tommy Batista wasn't parent and down. I was working rental business and my attorney said they wanted to put me on the road. Question me about what I was doing with with the spores that land were business discussion again and I have to do it after doing. He's listen I don't think you get disturbed. They would love nothing. Would would you back in jail. Is there any way you can pay off the restitution and I said let me call Tommy mantelpiece and see if we can all put up our shared. Be None of this so calm. You said He could put up a share but I paid a share. You would pay me back. Lisa said I have a lean on my house and if you had will be resolved by NASA going through the your money right away so I love Thima pinching pay off the restitution to avoid me be put up for a grand jury question again just about meeting I was doing the end. The government took your NBA pension rights. Valued that at the time. It was What was left with three hundred thousand? My ex wife about two thirds of his. She had taken that so I had three hundred thousand laughs so they got to cover the rest of the restitution we were. We were GONNA be routed. Tommy's paid you know like you said he was gonna Pay Batista. I have to sue because he reneged on the deal You know he signed there now. He pays month. I then asked him to talk about the mouse at the palace. Remember that with Ronald Test and others where the players went into the stands? The message was up in Detroit. That was Tim Donaghy game. Here's what he said about it. Yeah that was probably one of the scariest situations outset ran off. Aw Game was over. RAR tests have ended in even though the game was over us at that in his career where he was talking. A lot of people. Playing physical game just went over and sat near the bandaging somebody who stands through some out and he just you know went up into the stands air ferment. Loud players followed the fans and the players were fighting like crazy and thrown. Stop so on twenty or thirty seconds left in the game and we couldn't play the rest of the game was the first time in history. NBA like that can't like that so just a tough situation. It'd be on floor. See All these fights between fans and players really. Nobody really seriously hurt. Because remember Jermaine O'Neal no players dot seven foot tall. You know. Note that on at all this guy will come for stood up their planet Jamir meal hundred right now now wasn't for four okay. So nerve by thrown stuff is back with us. Live really didn't get a solid punch. Although not the Guy Colder guy probably would have been dead and this question was about tim talking about refs that SORTA got the message implicitly not explicitly from the NBA that they wanted them to sort of call things. Different ways we're Kinda gave them tapes to look at things that were happening with. The implicit message should happen a different way I asked him ended any resist when the NBA subtly suggest they do things in what happened with that. Here was his answer. No because as referee you wanted to advance off the ladder if you read in the first round you give them the twenty five thousand dollars fifty dollars owners to third round seventy five two hundred thousand dollars if you need. NBA Finals show just like in a job. Listen to what your boss cars you to do and how to do it to you like the best way to do you want to provide for your family and much money as possible. So it wasn't that we thought that we were doing anything wrongdoing and finally Paul Martino talks about the movie at the end coming out again as you listened to this probably right now the November first I coming out the movie inside game on the story of Tim Donaghy Palmer Tino producer talked about it. Here I will say the one following surprising housing disappointed. We didn't get any questions for the women in the audience because it turns out in our test screenings some of our highest scores were from women because they were surprised just how much the film focused on the fact that had family relationships. There's a lot of stuff between Tommy and his dad and a lot of stuff between Tim and his dad. It's a very emotional tough stuff if you've seen the film and much to our surprise having made the film those worse some of our highest scores so if even if you aren't a sports junkie you you might find this a very interesting human story about what can happen when you make bad decisions and get in over your head. So that's it. Those were the questions that I thought were most interesting into my listeners. About the Tim Donaghy. Movie Out Inside Game November. I really some startling and frank candid answers from Tim. And and his buddy and hearing from Paul Martina the producer of the movie That's been venture capital guy very successful that I've known for Awhile. Hope you enjoyed it and find word from our sponsor bet online. Ag Your online sportsbook experts. It's all going on now you know it. Nfl College Football World Series just ended but we got some huge huge NFL matchups this week. Of course the packers might packers at the chargers that'll be a home game in. La Lambofield West Detroit Oakland in Minnesota Kansas City College. Football's really heating up with organised. See Georgia Florida. Of course Utah Washington Miami Florida State. All this going on on at bed online dot. Ag Don't forget that Promo Code podcast one for your fifty percent sign on bonus bet online at ag. Your online sportsbook experts Bert's and that'll do it for this week's special edition of the Businesses Sports with Andrew Brand special edition with Tim Donaghy in the movie inside

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