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REShow: Jeff Foxworthy. Hour 3 (08-25-20)

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REShow: Jeff Foxworthy. Hour 3 (08-25-20)

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Called out by Jerry Jones today saying that he doesn't know what he's talking about when he says that the cowboys are not GonNa Sign Thomas and I guess Jerry would know because Jerry wants to sign all Thomas he would reach out and offer Thomas all the money under the Sun and Your Damn Act together. Thank you very much. So That's how it rolling here on this edition of the show, our poll question at the top of our third, our Chris you want to refresh it now that we've added a couple of new. Names to a place. Okay. So we updated it. It's sports needs to kiss and make up because it's guessing makeup day. From Day So the seventy sixers and the process Jalen rose and Chris Webber Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Front Office Major League Baseball and Pete rose. Okay. Let me reach. Let me hit that with re tweet and see how it flies. Now joining us here on the program of a unease. Was it worth one of the Funniest comedians. for many many years enjoyed this man's work, and of course, are you smarter than a fifth grader was so popular for such a long time? He is none other than Jeff. Foxworthy. Here on the rich Eisen show. HOW ARE YOU JEFF I'm doing great weather. Are you? It's been a long time I think since we chatted what's how's how's life everything good for you? Everything's good I mean it's different. It's Yeah. I've been doing stand up for thirty six years and I don't think ever went a week without being on stage in. February so right events up. That's an adjustment but Yeah everybody's healthy. What was your first Gig Jeff I'm. Well. Mike I. I I worked at IBM before I was a comic and I was guy in the break room, do impersonations of the boss. You know that you know that guy at every offense and a bunch of guys I work with Entered me in comedy contest not an amateur night contest for. COMEDIANS. Yeah and and I won the contest I had no idea what I was doing. I was like I knew thirty seconds into it I'm like. I'm quitting I. You know my parents my mother was like, are you on dope? what are you? What's wrong with you and? Five years later I was on Johnny Carson. The same others you know you wasted those years that I. What did you do it IBM Jeff. What along. More than it. The to fix machines When completely you know if you're. Whatever Your Power Source Mobile? Bringing new and put it in or whatever. But. they would've fired me long long ago I I was not on the fast track. There was anybody else also part of the great southeastern laugh off that I just looked up while we were giving an answer any anybody else that we would over you the only one to come out of that debt you wouldn't know. Some regional people like James Gregory people like that. Okay really. Funny. But But yeah, I might be the only one you now. Okay. Very good and it all. It's clearly all all worked out Jeff I mean, who's who's the funniest comedian or comedian you've ever come across that makes you laugh who is that person for you? Just. Naturally. Funny. Ron Wyden. Ron White could recap his day and you would be beating the table when we did the first blue collar movie I think that's the thing you know. We're we're all stools at the end and telling stories would we were sitting one night at a what a Denny's or something? It's like did I were grabbing late breakfast And Ron started hey, today every day. Oh, about the time I got thrown out of color in New, York, shady and and by the time he's finished telling this I'm a woman before I'm like Dude you've got to tell this old state, right? So, yeah he's just one of those guys. He could you know. What he had for breakfast and you'd be laughing and he says that funny. So then what was your biggest break that got you on Carson? Just a they saw you doing stand up and they just put you on on the tonight show. That's that. Was it. was very, very helpful to take back back in the days when Jay was like the king of the Road Com. J. Had seen the world down at the comedy Magic Club in Hermosa, Beach California and he went back until Johnny about me. But I was living in Atlanta which grown. Country and. And my wife said, you're never going to see if you can make this if we don't go to l. a. m., we moved to La and I think we've been there two weeks and I was doing said at the Improv. And Did this set and I was walking out to the lobby Jim McCauley, the talent director of Carson Mountain lobby, and he said how come you have been on Carson I said because you won't open my tapes mailing you taste. Right. And and and I was on. A couple of weeks later and I'm like, hell any funnier than I was three months. It's just like it's just like that movie hoosiers Jeff is just you mentioned the the rim to the floor and the the front, the the the free throw line to the baseline. It's just the same comedy. It's just a different. You Know Field House that you're and it just happens to be the biggest fieldhouse in the history comedy the tonight show with Johnny Carson. And back, then that was it. Out of everything, I've ever done in my career you said what's the highlight it would be making johnny laughing getting called over. You know to sit in and sit on the couch there. That was that was the Mount Everest of for a standup comedian back then and it was totally career changing I mean within a week. I was getting offers to headline vegas because Johnny had called me to the couch. That's it seriously because he doesn't he didn't. He didn't. You know if you made them laugh again I I I've read about this just such an Aficionado stand up comedy in college. For a couple of years. Yes, and it'll be like it I. loved it nothing like making a room laughing. Making Room Laugh and I've also never done anything tougher literally has made everything else. I've ever done in my career live that much easier nothing tougher than reading room and trying to make people laugh and I did it. You know in a student union and the campus at University of Michigan so it was jammed with all my friends and packed. The toughest thing I ever did was I went on the road a couple of weekends and did in front of ten people I sucked at that I just didn't know if I was cut out for it but nothing. is equivalent to that nothing. See would think what you do because there's so much crap that goes into what you do now and and it changes every day. I would think that would be tougher. mean. Look at what you do go Holy Hill. How does somebody said? Well I. Just. For some reason, retention of the most useless facts of all time. Why? And it's something that I'm I'm able to do. But just in terms of again, reading room trying to make keep fresh material, and then when I do a show like this, if I crack lies and if my audio executive as he likes to call it in my mass whole across the way producer doesn't laugh like they are right now. I think it's totally falling flat like if I don't get the if I don't get the immediate reaction, it's not their job at my stuff but I just don't get the immediate reaction I feel like I have totally crapped out that's stand up comedies left for me. Pretty much. It's great. There's no better. But when it's bad, there may not be anything worse. But being called over being called over jeff by Johnny. That's got that you had to be through the moon when that day happened. Rich is like if you go through a house, I don't have stuff all over the walls you know. But I do have a a an eight by ten black and white picture sitting in the chair talking to johnny and Johnny's got his mouth wide open just gut laugh at and and and and I said, that's all I ever wanted to do a made. You know from when I grew up yet three channels that was for a stand up comic. That was it. You know there was no specials. There were no that was it and to make that man laugh. I remember going home that night and lay the best you're like, Oh, I. Don't have a plan that was it. nope land. That's like thanks everybody. Thanks for coming Tipu waitress and that's the set. The career set Jeff Foxworthy here on the rich Eisen show. Do you have any sports memorabilia again grew up in Atlanta I don't know if you're in Atlanta sports fan if you have anybody from. Childhood that you've held onto anything like that Jeff you. Actually have in it and 'cause I'm doing this new show when I you need to. Work. Collect stuff and all I have I was a huge baseball fan I was there in sixty nine the night the braves Won The division for the first time and went on to play the amazing mets lost. But so I have autographed baseballs and started with ballplayers but then it was like, all right. If I'm hosted in an award show I, always had baseball's in my backpack if I did the tonight show or letterman whatever. Basically I'm have the most eclectic autographed baseball collection like. I have a whole section of just comedians and I've got. Johnny. Carson Letterman Red Skeleton Carol Burnett Don Rickles, Milton Berle, Richard Pryor you know and basically it's just on baseball's I've got five presidents on baseball's I've got tiger woods on a Baseba-. Richard Petty Dale Earnhardt. It's just very eclectic Elton John, Bob Seger. You know. All right. So I'll ask you the question of your show nine eastern on any what what's IT Worth Jeff? Do we figured out? What's funny. So we're we're. Filming the show down in my basement. So One one night we're doing one of the appraisers because what's that baseball back on the shelf and I got up and walked back there and one night when the braves were in the playoffs back in the nineties I threw out the first pitch and you know his say with the Catcher and they flip you the ball and. The Guy said, hey, stand up here. They're gonNA did the national anthem that we'll take you back to your see. So as I'm standing there on the field on front row, I, look over and President Jimmy Carter. Seated right there on the front row and I and I'm holding a baseball and I look over and said Mr President, would you sign this? Is Great, first, pitch Jimmy Carter and So I went back and got it on the shelf and and I'm like in in the appraiser starts asking me questions about what the ball was worth. Thirty five hundred bucks. and. But to me and I learned during the show I said well, there's bag. There's what's it worth to somebody else and there what's it worth to us course and I'm like, that was just a cool moment. I wouldn't you know. I mean I guess what if I was starving but I wouldn't sell it. You know so. Yeah. So to me almost every one of them I got in person and so. It it's like a little snapshot of that moment I. Know. I. Hear You Jeff. To say that this is personally authenticated by Jeff Foxworthy to get a baseball as a collection of people that you just named I know it's priceless to you. It's got to be close to priceless in terms of just reality right? I mean that's the I. There's a lot of Johnny, Carson. Baseball's out there. I don't know like maybe if somebody sat behind him at dodger stadium and they caught like a liner off the bat of Steve Yeager or something you know I right? You know what I mean like. Boy that's a good one. I'm trying to. I'm trying to time improper. Or buckner to go. You know dodgers obviously from back in the day with one of the most famous home runs of all time is Henry Erin hit that was buckner trying to climb the fence to bring the fame Henry Aaron Baseball back the older. Who gave up the remember? dowling go for the dodgers. Yeah. Yeah look at US Talking Ball like this Jeff. Foxworthy Lonzo, ball, Felix me on. A face. Choked up on the bat holding by the trademark. That's how much. OF THOUGHT HALFWAY UP He was never gonNA hit a double. Single and I'll be happy I remember a man. Jeff Foxworthy here on the rich Eisen show. So what what have you seen through your show where you couldn't believe that that you are able to appraise this bobble? That's on what's what's it worth on any which one jumps out at you. Jeff. You there was a couple of them. There was there was one couple. The guy's mom had given him a drawing and she's told him that was valuable and his the thing was ugly. It was like a clown and his wife wouldn't even let him put it up. Wouldn't let him hang it in the bathroom she thought it was. So at least so I'm talking to them and they get through the House and he pulls it out from under the bed. I guess that was the hiding place ends up. The things are conso. had. Somebody else bet had when he was in he was there and I want to say he was in Michigan thank you event. Okay but he Andy Warhol came and spoke to their art class and had was showing them his technique for screen printing any ink on his hands. So he is he's doing a screen print. He puts has both of his handprints down next to the things that he's planning. Anyway, this thing ends up being worth half a million bucks way. Could. Yeah Jn. Kinda fun about this show is. A everybody you know everybody has that thing when you're going through your closet doors that thing you'd never throw out 'cause you go and is that might be worth something. Almost every time somebody thought it was GONNA be worth a lot it was. It was the things that people almost about the put in a yard sale that were the things that will work fifty grand or your eighty grand or whatever yeah I mean that's like you know that's like the the sports who is like drafting Patrick Mahomes like you don't know what you got, but then it turns out to be a Picasso. You know and it's worth it. It's priceless. That's what everybody he. That's what everybody hopes for. That's why it shows like what's it worth is so much fun to watch like You never know what's GonNa Happen. And we're doing it virtually. So you're going into somebody's home they're filming themselves with their. With their cell phone. Your retirement to always encourage people to go to the fair once a year if for no other reasons than it made, you feel better about your own fans. Ask. Everybody thinks their families, nuts, and you give us a fair and you start looking around your like hell we're all right. We're we're damn near Royal. They look at these things. And so that was kind of like what it was like when people are filming going through the House and. It was like Hell I bought my house was dirty. We're okay we're good. You're ahead of the game. Man, this is fun Chat Jeff I really appreciate your call and hope that it's the first of many times at Fox outdoors on twitter at. Real Jeff, foxworthy on instagram and thank you for congrats on what's it worth and let's let's chat more. Let's chat some. Enjoyed you for so long this was fun. Thanks, Jeff. Right, back at you right at you. That's Jeff Foxworthy that was a blast of a CIA check anytime we can drop Felix eons name on me I'm I'm a happy camper. Those awful mets. I had about fifteen felix. He would be like every other pack. You know what? I. Mean I think lie absolutely had I think I had a bunch of John Milner and Felix me on the savers were one Wayne with Gareth Edwards and Gary Garrett was on that team even on his baseball cards choking up of these engines telling. Me On, literally held like there was more of the bat handle that was showing the bat barrel. Where are you going to getting a Felix? Bianco you want to hold it up. Literally, he would right there in the middle right there in the middle, he'd be like. Great Mustache Guy I know right. My brother Frank a great invitation of Felix made me on I know and then he was playing at the same time as Mickey rivers who used to throw the bat underneath his underneath his arm when he swung and missed for the Yankees, just celebrate the. Memory Lane. When we come back, we'll check on our news update from Chris Brockman and more at eight, four, four, two, zero, four, rich. We'll take your calls here on this edition of the rich Eisen show. Sports keep coming back. So does your chance to bend on them with our exclusive? We drink partner Ben Online major league. Baseball is now in full swing and the NBA has also began. 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I love this thing right here it's a, and by the way you have provided a lot of your own stuff to be autographed. Might I have for instance you provided this got a second one when we J. K. Simmons here I don't know if you can read it, but it says on, we had him sign not quite my tempo or no. SPLITS, which is one of his famous lines from whiplash for which he won. The Oscar. Didn't throw this particular symbol of miles. But. That's. Not Quite my Tempo J. K. Simmons Autograph Symbol. That's this was yours I use that for like three or four years we had Michael Douglas in studio brought in your cell phone stole my. Brockman because I had it at home we should just had him hold us to his phone and you can tell him is your wake-up call. Buddy boy. Wake up call POW. Said, he never never sleeps them Bud Fox? And he did sign it. Autographed and autographed phone. Aka Gordon on it and misspelled misspelled the decor. We're back on NBC. Audience now, rejoining us and we're strolling down all based again. On what Jeff Foxworthy just said all the baubles on his show. This. Is An autographed Michael Douglas Brick phone that we had him. Sign when he came in talking about Wall Street, he misspelled Gordon's spelled A. G. O. R. D. E. and. Michael Douglas Aka Gordon might make it even more valuable. Here's the not quite my tenth of JK seven sign symbol. I is is a good one. How about how about Tyson? Fury, autographed glove. Autographed thing right here Robert Deniro maybe sign this boxing glove. We thank he signed it. We thank you signed it signed it again I've got a good fellas poster in the back that is filled with gase autographs as called out by. Radio when he came here on the show Totally devastated. Me paid four figures for that autographed poster at a charity. Auction. And it is not cool. Just roll it is b-roll. Don Go ahead. I. Mean. Just, go for. Did. You, WANNA play here role Roland. This is. You see stuff that's on the walls here when you walk in, there's A. Poster that I've had for ever. Really yes. Where'd you get it I? Got It at a charity auction. You've taken it off the warheads not my signature what he meets your signature it's not my signature buddy. Down there you got ripped off. No, I did not. Do A FROU FROU l like that I said, don't cross. Your is it signed by you Deniro and passion and I spent at least four figures on this thing get out of here. Guess you're sucker. Sign it for real the. Double it. Do. It, do what you wish that it's a you know if that's she's Joe's Jim know. Him. We'll take later Ruffie. Serious. Would you want to the real? Short, but he's going to hurt hurt the. Okay. Does. Later. On me. Just being yourself you just crack the glass we can take it out. Smashed the glass. It's not really watch the whole. Do we'll fix it? Okay. You got ripped off. My Gosh feeling now. The. X.. Box. Okay you put the acts down this fantastic I'm sort of I don't even know where to go with this because that has been one of my most prized possessions for some time and you are the real mccoys. Not. Guess. Forget. The out. So now the goodfellas posters back there but back in the same plexiglass with the same. You, know cracked glass over Ray Liotta 's head on the movie poster and this autographed by that's five years ago now. By the way this deniro autograph that is authenticated. Doesn't look anything on my goodfellas. Now we think that they they're all. And this this is to me. We've got so many other things and just grab things only in the commercial break. This for me this for me is my favorite item that we have here. For many reasons, one deadwood on HBO is one of my favourite TV shows of all time. It's true in my mind if you had a name, a top five underrated TV show of all time deadwood, it's taught is in the top five might be number one. We all have shows. Oh Gosh. That show is better than people thought. So deadwood. I love it not only because it's a great show, but it is the most beautifully profane show in the history. The words they created that are can't be mentioned on television. Sounded like Shakespearean IAMBIC pentameter. Okay. It was amazing. Big Word alert. Thank you indeed. So we have been fortunate to have many stars of. deadwood come through the rich Eisen show over the six years. This show when Susie worked for real sports on HBO, she got this hat as a promotion. So I tell this was one of the many items that was love it but get it out of the House now that you have your own show. Okay. So we brought it here and decided when I don't know who came with the idea but when gases. When they had any appearance on this show whether they were regular or not. We had them sign this hat. With their favorite curse words, which means I cannot hold this up he. You have to leave just like that. Okay. Their favorite curse word from the show we had them sign the hat. Timothy? Oliphant. We all know played sheriff bullock. The Great Ian McShane. Elsewhere engine who is Truly, one of the most. One of the greatest greatest cars. In the history of Television Berry Evil Garett delahunt who played two characters. W Earl Brown was on that. He came by here he signed it and then. Yes. When Kristen Bell was here she was on I think a two episode arc as they say in the television business. Spoiler Alert I. Want to say and and she wrote one of the most profane words on that. Which makes this Priceless. What's it worth? I love this. This is my favorite in so And it's kind of off camera now but we place it on top of NOCCO. Tony Plaza a small replica of knocking Tony Plaza from that Great Christmas movie die hard the Greek. God you've come around I have not come around at all and place it on top. It's where its rightful place as and so it's right next to the green room couch where pre pandemic we used to have you know human beings visit the set, not just phone and they would sometimes sit down. and. Look at the hat, right? Yeah. Like what is one more item here? which is look around this is like our own version of antiques roadshow going. Yeah right or Outrage can't find out. Of the bath. It's around here somewhere. O. J. Behind you. BET active TJ putting on. A Golf Ball with this priceless item. This is amazing. This is from the. We got this Mark Harmon has been on this show many times. He's not only signed right behind Chris Brockman. We have two seats from the Rose Bowl. We had him sign at Josh. Rosen sided if you've ever been a quarterback in the Rose Bowl, we had that Ryan wave signed her and leaves behind brock played in the Saudi. So Mark Harmon came on and we talked about the movie stealing home with him. And he couldn't have been nicer. He's like what's your address? He sent us you could see it right here. It's Billy Wyatt. This is an original Billy Wyatt Bat. He played the character billy white from stealing home from St. he had an extra when he goes I'll send it to you for the studio. So he signed it right here. And we had it signed by Jodie foster when she appeared on the show. This is moving passports moving. Pretty good. We got to leave it there. The Golf. Yeah, I know like. Like shipping with I made the PUTT. If it matters actually, it doesn't matter. It doesn't. This is. Good stuff. Garbage in our houses and it's probably worth a little bit. I mean. Now you've got like fifty different versions of Olaf and stuff like that. No but I got a lot of good. Cool. Always the best baseball autograph you having your ass. Who? Personally. What it means the most to me when we were at the. all-star game in Washington a couple of years ago we had a great setup there Pedro Pedro Martinez came in and I got him to sign a baseball. And then last time one of the one of our last in studio guests actually, Tim Robbins was here with his son. We had him sign the during. Inside Baseball also is that? Was it during bulls hat? Do I got to keep track of everything around you. I don't know man. Walking. Because we're saving that here for one. Comes back. He's been here about four times by the way this is not only just a fun segment but a great passive wait. To drop names. By Jim. Brown. Autograph Helmet that I have on my desk, right? That's right. It's pretty major Bryan Cranston. Got Michael Have I. Have I ever told the story of Suzy's Great Aunt Helen on this program and Hawk Harrelson yes. Sure. I tell it again. Instantly, just turned into Mr Carter just know. This story is insane apply. Tell you. On June this story is crazy. It's a true story. I know okay. I've heard it a few times so I this is so much many many many years ago. When I was either attempting to date or I was dating CNC that's how long. Okay and I would be at invited to like family dinners and so I went one year and a huge. New England sports family I mean beyond huge. So me coming in with my Yankee, fan of needed to be to use to use the phrase from the Bryan Cranston World I had to tread lightly. Yes. But then there is a great aunt Helen who is a diehard Yankee Fan. So wish I kinda bonded with her because we were black sheep of. Jesus black sheep of the family being a Yankee Fan. I'm at. Dinner One time and my future brother-in-law who likes to stir things up says watch this. Hey. Watch this. Hey Great Aunt Helen. Do you want to talk about what do you think of Hawk Harrelson? And she starts. Cursing. Out of the blue and everybody starts everybody starts laughing now Hawk Harrelson Ken Hawk Harrelson Lotta people know for as a longtime announcer of the Chicago White Sox you know put it on the board lose okay. Whatever big. But he's a long time. You know baseball player well, yeah, he played reputation. And certainly with great aunt Helen. Very upset I'm like, okay. What's the story? So great on Allen had a A law a huge. Okay or I think on hell and might be adding great whatever. But a huge baseball. Autograph Collection from her youth. Name a baseball like literally. Every player that came out of the corn. From field of dreams. This book. Okay. I do believe? Mitt. Graham. Could the Cream like me moonlight. Grandma. Book. That's that's. This book. And she brought it to the stadium to get people to sign it. I mean this is back in the day. Select father did that. You're not sitting there thinking this too valuable to bring in I'll add it to the book you brought the S- apparently in the sixties she brought the book to Fenway Park. Asked Hawk Harrelson to sign it. He. Looked through it saw all the names on it. Literally I'm serious like Cy Young. And all of that site like looked. Found a page. looked. At it signed it handed it back to her. She opens the book to find where can haul cows inside. Of course, he signed the same pages Babe Ruth Babe Solo on the page I can't remember what do you think Oh. Yeah. Wow by the way also. For those who may not know one of the more. Easily. Discernible signatures. Baseball, you could just look it up go google it. Yes No Doctor Creates Plays Day Linus Day. Sandlot. Right. Yeah. So his name became mud. We why would you do whatever? There's one big reason why you would do it. Because of Hall. That's one. Apparently appropriate description. That was really his mindset he looked through. A thousand. Babe. Ruth no one else here. Let me semi why else? Would you do it? I mean. The way the story goes thumbed like look thrill it. Didn't just a page and quickly because he's walking down the row because there's so many people like he's gotta go. GotTa Run I. Got Okay. I'll do this. I'll do this this and and advertently signed the Babe Ruth Page. The story goes looked at it thumbed through it. Could've seen again like. Cooperstown night at the museum coming alive and Miss Book. The plaques alive. Signature form. Dumb. Dumb. I'll never forget that my brother Future brother-in-law's watch this Oh. That's Michael. Irvin has told me kind of a more story. He has a gigantic signature as well. Very big. Oh Gosh. Yes. He said win yourself and bigger now that he's been the Zach. Junior signing things, and there's going to be a lot of other luminaries on this. You GotTa make sure you stick out. So he puts Michael Irvin eighty-eight all three super bowls and puts H. O. F. on there it. Is. Right, now, it's not on that one so so Wait a minute it's kind of dawned on me because we have in our green room. Autograph Boards from Super Bowl Back, and look at all. Is No. No, no, no. No. I've seen Michael's over and over again. that. There's one in particular. In our green room. Again, if the rich Eisen show logo, we would have a poster borden and all of the guests who came through would sign it. And they're all in our green room. There's one I forget which one it is but signed directly on the chest of my out the running man logo. That's there the white. Space. It says, Dan Patrick. On purpose one, hundred percent. Like right there in the middle of my chest with my logo. was being passive aggressive. Signing. You think that passive. It just dawned on me. 'cause that's that's a pretty large space. That's right behind me I mean that's that's like a billboard right behind me. Look at that. Dan Patrick Right in the middle. Son Of Take a break. GotTa figure this out. He went down a little bit of an autograph Worm Home I love it who knows Okay, we're back here on peacock more on the rich Eisen show don't go anywhere. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. 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Eight four four zero four rich will take your phone calls in just a few seconds when NBC returns. With the rest of our radio audience in about ten seconds right here on the rich Eisen show on a busy Tuesday. Eight, four four zero, four ridges the number to dial. Let's go to billy in. Ohio is that Ohio State of Ohio? What's up billy what's going on? Rich I'm proud and excited to make my streaming debut. Now that we're the Peacock Datta boy, you sound great streaming calling TV, whatever you sound great. Billy was going on. I. Got One for you I really wish you'd kiss and make up guess. With big ten replay official. Man You are you are a Washer this this show. Fan. Yeah. Right. Big. Billy though. So do I, assume you're a Buckeye calling into this program right now? Worse than that married to. One. Oh. Boy. Okay. Sorry. You mentioned too. Many. Times. Marriage only okay. By marriage then you know what I'm talking about you've been hosed by these people to come on now. No comment just turn the page it'll it. We'll go forward together. Like film Louise Drive off the cliff we'll hold hands. All right billy don't lose the number call back. That's billing. This could be an entire separate poll is just who you need to kiss makeup. Dolan big ten officials the the. fumbling through the end zone part of the rule book. And the shift. Okay I got a lot of windmills Tilton out here. And he don't fumbling endzone. Thanks Mike. I'm sorry for listening. Sorry, rich honestly. Every so often. fumbling the ball out this. Half Inch Yard Line. Not Get to keep it fumbling it. A foot later. Into the end zone means you don't get to keep it. It makes no sense. Goes Zero balls a game of inches is not. A Game Event S. Every game of inches is a three pointer or not toeing the line or is it not that the the crossed honor that it not con- Every Games again eventually, you could talk about baseball being a game of inches just because what Casey singles day that once he was the first one to call it that is again, every game a game of inches football game of inches literally. You know. Jeans Sarah Tour's index card showed you what's it's a game of inches. I understand by the way gene star tours the one who properly made that interpretation of the catch rule. All those years ago. He's cool with me gene stare tours, index guarding I'll great great. Fantasy team name we know what the we definitely know what the avatars. At richeisenshow, the pulls up who does rich need to kiss and make out with Dolan Dole and fumbling the end zone the officials. Absurd and big ten officials who what's the word for it took. We know it. We all. Know it. Isn't gene stare tour official. For basketball. Yeah. Look all basketball officials suck made last night. I mean how many times the Lakers go to the line in the first quarter good guy I wrote this down the other day. Carmelo get a call or what here's Carmelo can get a call. The lack of response of Mellow. I don't understand why did they all get together in the bubble and say, this is the way we're handling Carmelo. I have to agree with you. And you know I I'm I'M I'm not nearly as partial. As you are no of course not but you're right. Guy Can't get a call he's got hammered hammered. Erica Well. The Lakers were piling and on in the first quarter, mellow could had a couple of buckets to kind of stop the bleeding here. Here's the note that I wrote down for yesterday's show because I'm lead pipe willing professional. In, preparation. Donovan Mitchell had five more free throws in his fifty one point game than Denver had as a team. Boy You. Think the nuggets have made the the the league aware that stat again, eighteen, the nuggets free throws for Donovan Mitchell. Denver has as a team in that game had thirteen. Yeah. By the way that was technically a Utah. So I guess they call it like on. That's a big game that I big game tonight that's going to be exciting. Let's go back to the phone lines, manny and El Paso Texas. It's been a while. How are you been manny you good. Bye you've been. It's been hot here but not as hard as you take on peacocking vegetation. Appreciate you've been you've been with the show for a very long time and I appreciate you calling in tonight what's going on? I love every step of it well as far kipling makeup day the Houston Astros Rob Manfred to all the Major League Baseball Fan, and then when they ask for for apology, we all turn around and say, no, what we have to make the Joe Kelley face right? That's what we gotta do. We say now the JOKIC'S Anyway I was GONNA say with with all the playoff hockey and playoff basketball going on in the bubble. Yes. I it's working out. Great. But at the same time I think it's hurting some teams because there are some things that look like they're running out of gas. Paul George looks like a run out I. Guess My Colorado Avalanche. A guess after we scored two goals and then just stop playing. But other than that I wanted to ask are you and Mike upset that the islanders were in the playoffs other than that? Much. appreciated. Thank you. I guess the eight year old in me. ranger fan in me the Barry Beck Fan. The Ron do gay fan. You know. hates the islanders forevermore but that animus. For me is long gone when the when the islanders going for the drive for five and James McDonald was at the microphone and I hated him with a passion with a fiery sons place them altogether and I hated the islanders with a passion. Could see the BRUINS and the lightning connection Golden Knights coming up later on today here on NBC go. Oh, my God night fan now. You Love the pre game or that I love the Vegas. Oh the whole thing out doing that in the bubble right? I don't think. I like their mascots too. You know what I want to bring up here about the bubble. This is very important. That's what I've been thinking, and we've got a few minutes to finish up. There had to be a conscious decision on behalf of the NBA coaches they had to get together. And say, we're not wearing suits in the bubble. We're going to dress down for the bubble that. That the. Armani suits era that Pat Riley ushered in. Okay That had been going on forever and ever and ever that everybody dresses like it's a runway. For An NBA game coaching staff, they weren't going to bring suits to the bubble and I'm wondering like what was that decision to do that? Was it because a it really was a dry cleaning issue like you know what I mean like how many suits are you gonNa Bring Ego Are you going to bring three months of suits right and then and then and then coaches would deep down not WanNa repeat like look more that same suit. For Games two and five in the regular season of the bubble and then. Just recycling the same suit for the second round of so fortunate to get there. Was it was it was it more costly because I mean again, you would know what's not passport to fund is probably what Disney charges for. Clean I'm serious like these coaches dressed too hot. It actually is hottest it's hot is too hot in Orlando that stuff. It's not. Now this had to be conscious decision and and did before down there. Together did they all get together and one code? Maybe not tell one coach who shows up fully dressed in a three piece Right and then there's and then there's Frank Vogel and like his. Ballot Check Collection Belhadj. Away, though who is the first to be like I'm not wearing a suit was doc. Isn't. Carlisle in charge of the NBA Association should we get Rick on here? After. Lucas. Drops fifty five tonight come on T.. T. J. T. J. be honest. How worried are you tonight? I'm not really worried. I gotta be. OFF P out of the way I. Don't WanNa hear from manny tired. Right at three months off in quarantine. But I did a jump the did it take a few games? You noticed these cultures. There not suited and booted they're like, Hash totally supercup. Or not, and does this mean from now on when you show up when when thank God one day when we're through all this craziness and we're back in this Now do they go back to the suits? Gone. One NFL coaches. Day pursuits stop wearing suits remember madden with the anti flap in. And Landry with. All of a sudden these guys show up like. Honestly. I'll shoot you straight any prior to US coming back last last week last week. When we showed up for our first show in six weeks. First Time I wore belt in quite some time. Trust. Like they're in quarantine you know what I mean like. This button down shirts. They're they're not running on fumes they've been sitting there man you gotta think. They're on the hotel room they don't have a lot of Room I. Space and those. INSERTED even if they've suite on boards getting in my ear right now he's right. These coaches are gonNA start wearing swishes and all sorts of stuff, and the NBA is going to be like well, you're walking billboards and the bubble maybe you should do this instead of wearing suits I'm just saying I'll tell you his past he's not wearing a suit quin snyder that guy's pissed because I mean he wants to wants to. Out there. G. Cousteau. Weird. If he just shows up in a suit to say, Hey, guys, I understand talking about dressing. Just showing up. Shirts why would you WANNA sit in? Toco backs. For. A because it's forced upon you like no. Fit there in a suit in coach basketball I'm pretty sure I don't know that's the way it's been the only pay. Bob Huggins first and foremost because huggins was the first co op Turtleneck to adopt that Montauk very casual look at. Yeah. That's true. That's routine call on that me Cala Perry's not not wearing a suit come on. By the way, turtlenecks are far more uncomfortable than a suit well, mock turtleneck rich. It's like not a real turtle that Huggy Bear Moctar I would love it if an NBA coach showed up in the bubble in a suit, just looking around at the everybody go. Sorry deal with it I. Bet you. Wear a suit. They make it to the finals. You can't you. Know then now you're talking superstition Polo de they're going to show up with a hole in the same shirt. Western. Conference, finals. Don't check. Can you come? Always thinking this the other day I gotTa Talk Show and we'll get a coach on here and just flat out, ass? Yeah. 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Episode 2307 - Wendi McLendon-Covey

Never Not Funny

2:17:03 hr | 3 years ago

Episode 2307 - Wendi McLendon-Covey

"Hey, everybody, Jimmy Pardo here. Never not funny with our guest, Winnie mcclendon Covey right around the corner. But first, let's talk about you up with Nikki Glaser. That is the Sirius XM comedy central radio. Guess what? It's now a podcast. You can come enjoy Nicki and her best friend, Tom tanker over sharing about their personal lives. Getting a giving perspective on dating and sex dissecting popular culture. Try to understand the news and make it fun of whatever whoever else deserves it. You don't know what's going to happen on you up with Nikki Glaser front of the show subscribe now. And Tom, Tom actually opened for me, Donna Bloomington. A couple of times he is a very, very funny man. So listen to this. You could subscribe to you up Nikki Glaser on apple podcasts ditch or your favorite podcast app, or you can listen to you up every Monday through Friday at ten AM eastern. That's seven Pacific on Sirius XM's comedy, central radio. But right now you can listen to never not funny, please don't take this person. Superlight goede. Though. Fistful of dollars. Don't thaw the ice cocaine. Then you've got the lows here comes the yellows. Look. I'm not the best gay twelve years in baby Lucy and goosey. Live on tape. It's the fastest our in podcasting. This is never not funny. Now, here's your host, Jimmy Pardo. Hey, welcome to the program at bell net, doing something out off to my left there. He's doing doing a beaker type move Muppets beaker just improving my posture, Jimmy. It's time, you know, I don't want to be one of those hunched over old men when I grow when I grow old. So working on my posture your, that's actually that you're doing because you look stupid. That's the fear. That's why I don't do this. Usually no, I I do think of it. I do try to because I do hunt over a little bit, so I try to our spine to remit to do that. I think responds permit to. We weren't meant to live this long. Honestly, one hundred percent agree with you. We weren't supposed to get past thirty right boy wouldn't let be granted. That's the way it was in and out in and out. Get in bro. Create get out. That's it. Just keep the ball, keep it moving. Just keep it moving conveyor belt. Keep it moving. Rear weird vigil right now, minding your business and keep it to yourself. Nobody to go to your fucking head. I don't know any of that, of course. Now, last week we failed to mention that there was an anniversary in this room and that. And that our buddy over there Garin cockerel has been with us now for six years. Six years, happy anniversary making the money on the show upwards of four months of real employment. Yeah, yeah, right. Longest job I've had really, yeah, you call this a job. Is that safe to say you would call it? Is this on a resumes? Not just a, it's an adventure DEM, right. It is all true, right? It gets his ass kicked like boot camp. He's core or was it the army? It's not a, whether it's military, the army? No, I think. So. What would you say it's not just a job? It's an adventure army. That's totally right. I don't think the peace corps really advertised navy, which navy who has for experienced. That's the they don't ask for two marines. They don't ask for experience. They give it right submarines, no. Ask for loyalty or something? No, that's Trump. That's. He doesn't ask for it. He demands it to fire rod Rosenstein and now apparently that's. Seconds ago, they say it's not happening. It's all it's not meeting with bouncing all over the place. Apparently the meeting ended very before we started an and it sounded like everything was. They were putting status quo or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. Well, I was listening to NPR and I got in the middle of their discussion of this. And all I thought was always fired Muller because that's the way they were talking about all these things. I'm like, yeah, but you know what to good week for them to do this week for them to throw this the smoke up with the cavenaugh stuff going on like, hey, let's distract from that for a minute. And even if they don't end up firing rod, Rosenstein I, it's they're kind of doing what they want. The news is now covering this nonstop, the cavenaugh thing, right? We were just at a rally, you and I and we on our way there we were like, and it was for, you know, to to, to, you know, antique have rally and women was chosen for for survivors, walking out of of work to to to make a statement. And on the way there were, we'd heard that through. Rod, Rosenstein thing. We're like, oh, this is now no one's going to cover this because they're all going to be talking about rod Rosenstein news out there. Luckily, some out there to show support for these ladies. It's it's, it's possible. You will hear me interviewed on NPR. I don't know somebody with a microphone interviewed me and I was like, I didn't ask they were just I just talked to them, yes, yeah. After after what happened? What happened in the prior to that you? They became up to both of us and said, do either one of you want to to talk to me and Jimmy just pointed his finger at my direction. Jimmy, the guy who texted me last night and said, hey, I'm going to the sing. Do you wanna come? And I hadn't even heard about it because I think the only because I would have heard about it was Twitter and I was like, sure. And he was like, don't forget to wear black and it was like, forget. I didn't know about it. I would I have known so I wore a black shirt and then James rain the not yet a little pub out it. Yeah, because that's what it's about. It's about promoting this show is met and the way he should, they said, who are you? And he said, Matt, bell net from the award winning podcast, never not funny. No, of course not. That would be a dick move. I did say I'm here to support Brad Kavanagh. I'm not sure what these people are doing it. My sign was rape is never not funny. Of course, none of this is true. It was always going to get out and support. So he's going to get out and show support and have the people honk. And and and what have you and should we can we tell the story of when we got there, we can tell Stroh yet. Sure. We got there. Early editor both of us panicking that we were not going to be like we were coordinating our schedules and where we were gonna meet. And I was like, shit, I'm going to be ten minutes late and I'm also ten minutes late. And if I may, the whole premise was does. This was the walkout at ten AM, right? So theoretically, the walkout is at ten AM which means that people really wouldn't arrive to the spot until maybe after ten AM. But for some reason we felt like we had to be there. Gotta get there Ted. So when did we get there? Jimmy, about ten to ten. We got there the nine forty two. The super early closer to that. So you looked a little bit more like a couple of guys hoping to see a bunch of women. It was. We look when we got there. There were two of us walking up to three corner with one woman holding a sign. And then as we arrived a second woman walked up. So it was a fifty fifty generous women's and they said they knew each other, these two women, they said, well, there's two of us and I went, hey, we're here to break debt. They didn't even know they were just like there's who random guy standing on the corner signs, but we were wearing black shirts, which met then? So yes, yes, this is not a coincidental black shirt. I'm actually doing service and then the person I said that to turned out to be Leah, Thompson, the famous movie and TV actress, wow. Who I decided to call Aaron, let's call it nineteen times to me had no idea was Leah Thompson. Once we get air, I when we introduced ourselves, she said, she said, hi, I'm Leah. But then I said, I'm Jim. And then I said, the other one and she has. I'm Amy, I'm saying, I'm Jim and I, I heard Aaron, and so I just anyway, we, we introduced. We all said Hello to each other. And that was the moment when I shook his hand that I was like, that's Lee Thompson, holy shit, and Jimmy did not pick up on that because he didn't hear her name. Gradually extend minutes. He had no clue. We were standing on a street corner with just four, four, two dudes. Lee Thompson, this woman, Amy Pizer owners say was yeah, actress and here in town. Yeah, a Broadway stage performer. Yeah. Yeah, it was four of us for I'll say, why did you long kind of uncomfortable can we didn't have signs we didn't have. So I wish we would add science. All that said they were very grateful. We were there and showing the support, and then our friend test Rafferty showed up and then the five, and then it grew and grew and grew. Yeah. And then people from CBS advert, we were at the corner of laurel, canyon and Ventura. So then at some point, a group of people who had walked out of CBS Radford, I assume started coming. They marched. Down the street towards us and joined us. And then the crowd basically doubled in size straw by the time we left. Yeah, we should ladies. Of course, we support it, but we gotta go talk about our Dicks. It was nice to always going to have. While it may sound self serving, it's always it always feels good to go to those. And to feel like you're making a difference, it makes you feel better for ten minutes or more. I still feel better. Yeah, but yeah, it is. You actually feel like, oh, I'm I'm not just sitting back in taking this doing something to try to. I mean, I know it doesn't really help we voting is the main thing you can do, but but it gives you a feeling of there is some solidarity. There is some people are motivated and energized to to to change things and make things better. That's what I told them PR. That said. In three times the words that so it should be good interview with Mentone they, they chop it up. I chop and broccoli, that's. It'll just be like, I like boobs. One guy was there who had a totally different take. I. Fun. CBS then. A lot of people out it was nice. Yeah, I was thinking like, what would be? How would you say we're standing out here? Like a bunch of boobs or we can't let them vote like, no, no, I try to. It's it's nerve wracking like you feel like you need to answer quickly on the spot when in reality I could just pause and collect my thoughts and then answer because what are they gonna do right live, but I was still like. You kind of panic. There's there's it's hard not to, especially when you believe in the cause. Right. I was scrambling to remember why we were there. No. Anything about it literally fourteen hours ago saying this over and over for some reading bragging about this saying, I'm here. I thought this was a net neutrality rally. I, I'm here for that and fuck out. In a black shirt like he got mostly, but he kept anybody that would say they would say empty for your support. He would go, oh, of course, of course. But originally came because I thought it was net neutrality, things stop saying that you accept talking about that right now that you understand why you're here either scramble. You don't have to admit it. Right. You're as long as you're staying than you're here for this for this now that you know, very strange, very strange anyway, you go down there that's maybe still happening at the corner of because get done there. Now you can. Canyon, Ventura swing down, get to see good. If we were live right now. It could get some people down there get down that we send Garin down there with an earpiece and have them do some crazy Howard Stern Babu. Stuttering John down there at a muck it up some guy, and then reedit them to make it sound like he wanted to do that. If you want to call it back. Twice. A lot of option on the table production wise. If we were ever to go live the fun of it, the fun, the excitement of that red light turning on boy. Imagine that exciting and new like bottom of Ord we're expecting respecting your or you know what I watched last night. 'cause I that maybe think retro TV. I'm not just not seeing around here. I this. I'm embarrassed that I did not know the show hawk I remember that show who's the star was a spinoff of Spencer Spencer for higher. This is not that. Okay. What what am I thinking of the his? His hawk. Yeah, and they did do a spin off with him. But it was not a black gentleman. There's also a character on the path called hawk the, he plays Aaron, Paul son, and who is a in in connection with the least likable child on television. The character is horrible. Man called hawk was the spin off spin. This was just called hawk guys, HEW k or your look at what year it was the TV show hawk don't give away who the star was. Is it hawk Harrelson? Yeah, it's about who we lost yesterday. He, he didn't. I. He did his last baseball game, and as I tweeted out, I got very, very choked up. It's hard not to cry when you're hearing somebody else cry, and then you're also invested in and I think is a great broadcaster. I know he's very polarizing, but but when he could not. Speak because he was so overwhelmed and it's like, you know, his last game it was. It was said, and Steve Stone who's been his partner for the last ten years or so nude kind of like a stay. I just don't even LA back. Just lay back and let let hawk take it the for the final out. I like to do that to lay back. I don't talk over you. I just jumped right. You know, I just picked my spot and I, that may have been the case. Jimmy, I just. Stay in the pocket and see maybe I can, but they won't do too much. Listen. That's what I do. No doubt. You're guilty of that and what you're saying. You don't do Gary. What year? Nineteen sixty six. Nine hundred sixty six year that I'm told that some people in this room may have been born weird. It was a show called hawk with star. One of the biggest movie star who went to TV or TV star star who went to movies and became one of the movie and they movie star. So back to TV and then back to TV, that's Burt Reynolds. Burt Reynolds and I never heard of it and he Jesus. But he looks just like grandma, wow. Daniels like Jesus Sheba's. They look just like Marlon Brando and he looked great. He's great. What is his character in the show? What kind of addictive or has a hook. Has a hook police Lieutenant. He's a police Lieutenant a full blooded Iroquois working the streets in New York City as a special detective for the city's district attorney's office. He's a native American boy, but I watched the first twenty minutes of episode. I didn't get didn't get deep into the. There's only seventeen them. Could you imagine a nineteen sixty sixty awful, racist, Indian jokes that are going to be on that thing could be allowed to imagine firewater imagine that's involved could, hey, why don't you send up a smoke signal, right? These are things that are going to be said, yeah, it by the way. Very. What's today? Gritty. It is very, very, it's very, and it's dark. Your it also watched over the weekend of this. I found this channel somebody please wherever tweeted at me, please reach tweet me that it was you that told me to watch TV because I forget what show you wanted me to watch on TV. I never heard of get TV, but it's another one of those meat TV's where they played nothing but classic shows and watching the sunniest Chevra righty out. And those sketches are atrocious, but the chemistry of them all you really want. If they got rid of the sketches and it was just them at the beginning during their monologue, which is so raw, an honest, and then have them sing, then have Tom Jones as they had on this Tom Jones sing, they do it duet so on so forth. All of that is phenomenal. Then they go into these awful, awful sketches, but the I remember watching it as a kid and loving it, and she is just just stunning and wearing outfits that are just, I mean, I so for the seven. So revealing, and but you see, he's still in love with her. This was an episode that they were divorced, and they make jokes about how they're not the other, but you can tell he is still mad in love with her and she is over it. And but. Very enjoyable to you. Get to. A channel, or is it a web thing to channel get TV. But somebody I only heard about somebody tweeted at me saying, you would love this because blob wise on it, but I forget what it is at. Apparently I refused to scroll back through my Twitter feed to find it. It may have been upwards, but Geico who knows how much is in there. Not a lot. That's what I did over the weekend that never be weakened. We can produce Saturday trying to. They want to do Saturday. What a couple of shows here in town. That's I did Saturday Saturday. I had a show over the world famous improvisation with Christine Blackburn's, gold story, smash. That was a lot of fun. Cool. And then went race over to the comedy store and the set up in the belly room. They're nice and to Mitzi finally passing. Bitchy Rocha grabbed rave say, all right. Yeah. Hidden. They took the white paint out, put my name up on the wall. It was very exciting. Yeah. TIMMY, Joe Dearden doesn't show up at the belly room into a lot of fun. Go places happen, man, the comedy store, really, it is. It is night and day from what I'm when I moved here. That place was a little. It's a literal eight ghost out wanted they supposedly, and it would be like nothing like all you at the store. I'm going to those six people. Yeah. All three rooms were jammed and the result mine down the street of crazy for the next three to start crate craziness. And yeah, when I used to like when I started getting into going to live comedy shows in the early early two, thousands, I lived down the street. I live two blocks from from there on olive, and it was depressing it way too fun place. It wasn't a popular or you know, the comics or people mostly you didn't. No. And it was just like, sad and weird. Yeah. Yeah, I I became I came to know some of them through the scene like David Taylor and right ours, your fear, but. But yeah, it was not like you heard the legends the stories and it was like, this is the place I if you would've if you would tell me today, like here we are because I moved here in one thousand nine hundred five. If on the show in two thousand eighteen you would have said he remembered a comedy store, close in one thousand nine hundred eight. Okay, right. That makes sense because it was and you would go right down the street to the laugh factory, which I went to a bit. It was always packed jammed. Yeah, it was crazy. He never know what you gotta get Dane cook citing it was at the end of his power. Right. Exactly. That's why I think I started going there because I, his first album was so great and I was like, I wanna see this guy and he was there all the time. I mean, he would read celebrity, but like the articles on in in LA weekly, reenter, you know, went to the white hair. Dane cook and then new. His another famous sitting at Taylor swift, she's way before the Twitter's Taylor, swift of that era been pink. Was paid Christina Aguilera or hurt, like why you here Dane cook like they all everybody was coming to see Dane cook and so is the lines around the corner. What's up garett your SU suspiciously quiet when Dane Cook's name comes up. He's quite quote thank money doing over there. Probably thinking of more ways to spoil movies while you're pretending not to spoil them. Is that what you're doing on Twitter about? You said, if anybody wants to know about what am I thought on this movie go over to Twitter hashtag. It sucks. Yeah, it sucks. But don't you rail about people that spoiled movies don't haven't? I didn't spoil anything, but you did by saying it sucks. You're letting your people are going in with a preconceived notion but didn't spoil anything in the movie. I didn't tell you what happens. It's an opinion spoil spoil. I think even that could be a spoiler. Really say, but it's ducks. What's that Elliott even saying that you went to see a movie could spoil it because that's the kind of movie you go to see. All right. Well, let's not get cream. A lot of talk at all. If it's Gary by point. I actually, so you're coming at me. I disagree. I think if you're say, oh, I can't wait to see that movie. Oh, oh, it sucks. Then then I'm sitting in a whole time going well, I hope it doesn't sell. It's person to person. If if you go into it sucks, maybe you're gonna like it better. So then you don't get can work work that with. There's no question. World work that way. For me, it can work the other way to boiling in the populate distracted by like, what? What? What was what sucks about this extracted? Also the trailer look terrible to me. We're talking about life itself. Do we say that we did not. I have not seen the drill now. He despoiled it for thousands of people. Yeah. Based on your logic, I did not. I did not bring up the title. Well, I did life itself sucks. Gordon to Garrett Gordon the Gary, and according to me based on the trailer alone, let's say, I think it's fair to say in this room and I'm that maybe guarantees. Opinions are suspect. That's I agree with that except that he's usually overly positive. So when he doesn't like something, it throws me for a loop. I'm like, oh, it must really suck of heat in like it because he likes a lot of things. That's a good point. And this is the kind of movie that I would normally love because I like all the movies and getting all choked up interior and crying. But we were saying, I love he, Dan Fogelman directed at right. He wrote directed it and he wrote crazy stupid love, which I think is I really liked, oh, you should see it. That's really good. How did you see that movie? I just haven't sat down to watch it. Get your head out of the horror section and go crazy with love. It's good. Steen last night. It's tough. It's being before carry. I was at the Halloween decorations store yesterday and you must know this movie. I don't know this move. I suddenly saw a million different collectibles for movie called trick or treat. Oh yeah, little boy with a burlap sack over said name too. I can two of the stars trick or treat. Wow, I can't. How many can you name name to? Oh boy, and you beat me. Can you name this? Tune me? I can name at least two also. Can I think of the third? I don't know if I can pull third one. Who are you? Gonna I'm gonna. I'll go first. Okay. Gene Simmons. Oh, you're thinking of that trigger tree YM is different one. Yeah. Oh, this is that's the one that everyone wants on Blu Ray. Oh, I then I can zero from that other field. There's there. Is there a boy with a burlap sack over said in in the one with Jason? And I don't know. I all I heard was shook retreat Cooper, right? Who's the other guy in it? Mark Price. Oh, from family ties. So weird. Oh, that's what was what was when did that one come out there. What either talking to the micro motor don't talk but make a decision. I would like to see us with those two guys together. Gene Simmons together. I wonder if they are so keep wishing buddy. Because it could still happen the roasted alive. What's that phrase? I thought that this came up in my head the other two. What is it if wishes were assholes? We everyone have one is that, but what's the fr. Dishes is the one that I know. I don't know anything about assholes in wishes, but it's it's something if wishes, because that's if opinions are like assholes has went able smell like shit if wishes were. Yeah, I know what you're talking about and I can't pull it either. Is one if wishes were something this is twice in three days. It's come up. It's killing me. Maybe it is the fishes horses. Yeah, that's it. Everyone would ride kisses if wishes were kisses. Is that what it is. Well, it's a very komo's haunt. Kisses than we would make out if wishes kisses. Mixed still be kissing you. I dunno. I wonder if that's what I'm thinking. Is that how it goes. No, it's not bad, not bad Garin. I mean, the the vocal performance was atrocious with the sentiment. Scratch. Exactly. You got an exhibit, you didn't do the scratching. That's the only thing that was different. KOMO did he die? I know this has come up before God. I'm sure he did. 'cause we talk about him so a lot. Yes. When did you get ninety? Eight two hours ago close. What did I two thousand one two thousand one bet on this yet. We did it. We. I think we bet on when he died. Now, twelve years. We've been on everybody. What have we bet onto the stupid show? You answer my question Garin. When did that trick or treatment? It was like two thousand five. Oh, so it's not even that old. I don't know that one at all, but you're saying there's a lot of collectibles in such now in this store which is chock full of nightmare before Christmas and FREDDY Krueger and Jason voorhees and Michael Myers. There's like a suddenly all these things with this little boy with a burlap sack over his head, and it's like, what the fuck is this? Why don't I know it? But it sounds like it's kind of recent. I actually most of those things are from the eighties, you know? And so, yeah. It's weird seventies for Halloween. It's an anthology movie, I guess, keeps coming back. Just me has a different stories in it, and he is one of, so it's like we're currying. Doesn't listen. Thanks. Sorry, two years. They make anyone. Those you, you were like, so what did you say? So it's coming back or keeps going back? I was. I was having my own conversation. I said Halloween from the seventies that I was like, oh yeah, yeah, back. And your you said you will not watch the new trailer, Karen. Have you seen the new trailer. Oh, that's has on the theater is say, I applaud every time it comes on. Sorry. Sorry, boilers. Garrod lakes trailer. Now what's not the same you paid? Okay. Without talking about anything in it, will you agree that is feels like that trailer reveals too much like it shows too much stuff. No, you don't think so. Okay. We'll talk about later. Guess talk about it out of my ear shot. Yeah. Where does that come out? The eighteenth of October fourteenth nineteenth motiva- showing Halloween one on the seventeenth. Cool. So we'll be going to that. Have you ever seen it in a theater? No, that's cool. I saw it into theater when it came out. Yeah, you're old. I am old. I am old but of too loudly tool. That's what year was that eighty? No seventy eight seventy eight. That was twelve. So Charlie is suddenly decided he loves scary things what? Yeah, he that's why we went to that store. We went to thing. There's the steamer trains and Griffith park. You know that play up. They do thing where they decorate it for Halloween and it's so it's decorate. It's a nighttime. Thing, but you can go during the Dan, right it and still see the decorate. They're not done putting it up yet because it's early, but we went and did that. And he was like, this wasn't scary enough. I wanted to. Let's go do something else that scarier. We're like, well, there's nothing really scary and we're like, we can go to the Halloween store because there's a bunch of props and nonsense. So yeah. Well, that's why we were in there and he's just looking around and there's, there's like a, they have this case with a. Looked like a child's skeleton, but the puts a skeleton of a child with two heads and flick realistic. And I was like, how about that. He was like, okay. Was starting to get starting to get to the limit of what he can have, but yet so weird, what a weird. I don't know why he's suddenly wants to be scared. Six. Yeah, you know six is brought Oliver to one of those, and I made the mistake of pressing press here to make that thing come alive and it was a spider that jumped out at them. And now we can't go anywhere near and I keep saying I go, but Oliver, you're, you're eleven. Now you're not six anymore. It won't see, and but he won't at end. It was like that splash mountain. I did everything way too fucking soon. Yeah, I wanted and I've ruined my fun. Yes. All that's the only thing that matters is not what his emotional state is, but I wanted to make sure I didn't want to jinx it by, like, you know, I wanted to keep saying I basically kept telling, I'm like, oh, you know, that's just a fake thing like because I realize it's a thing where you could be like, you know, that's real. Like if I told them that that skeleton was real, probably freak the shit out of it. Here's young enough that he would believe me. So I, I'm walking a tight rope right now because I don't want this to end. I want him to always be in this carry because it's like you said, it's fun like now we can do stuff like Boney island is coming. We talked about it last week. It's actually going to be at this team or anything. I figured out Boney island? Yeah, in Griffith park, and we saw a little bit of that and it looks insanely cool. I don't know if it's a, it's a thing that you're gonna tell them. We just talk about this live. We talked about on Thursday. It's a thing that they used to do at this guy's house in this neighborhood right behind us, and it was a guy who worked on the Simpsons for years anyway. He has this house with a tree house in the yard, and he would just go all out just like insane, highly directly decorations, and you could just go and walk around and it was really cool. And then eventually they started charging admission, and then it got so popular that they, the city told them, you have to pay for police to be here when it's happening, and they were like it costs like thousands of thousands of dollars and they're like, we can't do it. So they didn't do it last year for. The first time in a long time and everyone was bummed out. So now they're moving it to Griffith park and they're blowing it out. It's going to be going to be crazy chart. I forget. I was like. I was like. Five dollars or eight dollars or something. I don't remember ten twenty why the money means nothing to me because I'm super rich. And that's why attracted who's this aristocrat once was. Coat here. I thought I thought it was an attack. Well, you're you're, you're here now sir. Take it up. Yeah, and that's the went through blood at me. Blood on the rain on the scarecrow blood on the plow. Great, John, cougar? Mellencamp great. I like about I'd like to of his albums, like I like that album like scarecrow or jubilee. The some of those eighties rockers it's his background noise to me, it's not nothing special about them just like man, that's that's on. Yeah, he's one of them was very fair. Could argue with you. Not going to be a popular opinion, but I realized on Saturday, that's Tom petty. He's great, I great. But to me, his songs are just noise. Background noise you're not getting that is a very Bob like you can't. I know cannot say that. No, you can't beloved Tom petty, and I went to see him at the Hollywood bowl, and I was like, Yep, these are the songs. I love like, look, American Girl is incredibly, it's a great song that to me is a classic, but is there. There's so many hits and all of them are kind of, right, right. This one. Not exciting. I you're not gonna get a fight for me. I one hundred percent agreement. Good, but you can't sit for the. He's one of those guys, tired of being afraid. I'm just saying I am saying I liked Tom petty and I love it. What's the matter with you? Eight. Yeah, it's all very pleasant, especially the eagles everybody, you know, everybody the eagles are getting at the forum, their goals, and then you hear it and you go, man. Okay, I've heard great. They're great. They're great. I'm not mad at the eagles where but Glenn fries. And I mean, I heard that the they played. When was that last summer? No, they were just here last week. Yeah. I mean, is it still? It's still got deli. Henley's Glenn fry son, and you've got Vince Gill, and Vince Gill some could argue is better than I didn't know Vince Gill in the hills v. Vince Gill. Yeah, the famous Vince Gill weird, but look that up. Make sure I'm getting the right, right. Put in Vince Gill, get a second guy also die, or did they just cut him out that guy, they got filled it years ago. Yeah, Vince Gill. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And he's Visco arguably a better guitarist that are singer. I can't speak to a songwriting. I don't know much about Vince Google it doesn't it the song, right? He's just gonna play. The still married Amy grant, is he follow up? What's he ever listen? I don't know. I didn't know that they they were in are they still are good for them? You know, you make it work. That's what you do is that one of her songs for his. Relationship mega work designers. They're both leaving that show the bullshit Tom, they're, they're starting their own or something both Heidi and Tim, or do they were playing the producers apparently were playing games. I actually watched the like the one where they had like the all stars or whatever. And those were involved at all. It's just fine. They had. What's your name? Somebody at the door knows him. What's your name? It Amano, right? She has. She host the all star ones that that's they do that in the off season. They have they, but I thought there was some drama when they first started doing that, didn't they? I probably that. Like, why is this happening? Right. And so but wasn't there thing where Clem didn't want to do something and they wanted to go ahead anyway and Tim's like, well, I'm not going to do it. She's not doing it. Was that right? Yeah, that that was part maybe guaranteed confirmed isn't enough. I mean, I liked that show for, you know, I watched it for few seasons and it was great, but we're done. We get it, I think. So you know, Danielle still loves it. Oh, really? And I'm sure there are others that still love it, but like I, I don't blame them for being over it as my point, like it's long but they're going to do their own. Let's they're, they're like, Heidi also on America's got talent. So like she's got, she's slowdown Heidi. Yeah, seriously. Do we like, how do you clean that much? I, it always bothers me. She has a terrible sense of humor. And so whenever we were comedians on America's got talent, she's her opinion to me is ridiculous. It's like, why are we listening to this. Which wasn't Melby. No, no shirt. How he's doing what I trust on that panel, how he obviously knows comedy. And I hate to say it Simon cowl doesn't exhibit a sense of humor necessarily, but seems to have some good. Maybe a decent sense of does your, does he see maybe star potential like we're, he sees that instead of like like the well, they they've, they support there was a woman that just made it to the finals this past season, which is the only time I've ever watched it. 'cause Zoe's been watching it and there was a woman her whole stick was like, I'm from a trailer park and you saw her. I don't want to cast aspersions, but like they're, they're full-throated support of her was a little bit. Well, if I'm not mistaken, she was at fifty eight. She decided to start doing comedy, and it's only been doing it a year and a half or something. Yeah, right. It's a shut up here to tell you. I don't remember. I didn't maybe seven years. I don't write, but I remember I, it's one of those. You know, you're, you know, don't don't give up on your drink. So I think listen, I have not seen one word of that woman's comedy, so I am not. I am also not casting his. I don't know anything about her except for that. I think that that show latched onto that story lines. That's when I, when I heard, and I saw one of her jokes in print, I thought, well, there's no way anybody goes to watch an hour of that. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I one hundred percent wrong, but I know nothing about NAT in that setting, though they could do the old school showbiz thing where they just she just gets writers like if she made it, then they just hire writers and right jokes for this character and that's fine like she could. She was fine at delivery. So when you say I don't watch the program? Yeah, she went to the final to, no, it goes. That's show as weird thing where the ten people make it to the finals. Oh, and then I think the last show they just whittle it down to the winner and then who won a magician, who was the Jamali insane? Like he's a close magic guy who's just so good shit. Like if they're if they're getting a year residency in Vegas, I don't think I, I don't think that's what it is anymore. It's like a weekend in Vegas. Oh, yeah. But I mean. I guess there's the potential for a longer contract after they've won. Also you go around the country and your guy. You. Piff the magic dragon or whatever it is. He was on last comic standing Piff what's it called? Piff PIF. I do not remember something dragon was this after it was during the Roseanne period or was he on America? He was. I'm standing. Unless comic, or is it if the matter dragon, that's what he just said. You're busy making labels for your computer, whatever you're doing over there, but but that sounded too much like puff the magic dragon. So I didn't know that. But yeah, that's. What the fuck with him telling you he was like putting a band aid on or something. I don't know what he was doing. Okay. It looked like a label. It might be driven. I think if I'm not mistaken you unless can we say it was fifth metric issued Piff. Because that's a lot like dragon. You can't put a spin on a well known name. It is and what was he on? America's got talent. Oh, he's on America's got talent. Well, he goes to comedy clubs all over and sells it out and the magician what to do. It's comic, but just straight comedy, obviously, must do magic as well as a dragon word as supporting act from frigid sons appeared on, fool us to America's got talent anywheres. You know, one of those adult size inflate uphold like go for like a one eight. One of those dragon. I've, I've seen that ragged head. Yeah. You will harder Jimmy, you'll get through. He's always walking about the program. I like I know guy comes in and wants it. He put his tail on that chair and do some close up. I'll I welcome that in. We need more magicians on the show for radio show. More of that people love when Justin's here. He's funny and a good conversationalist. Right. Very, doesn't matter if he does metric or not. You will insist on him performing like a monkey when he said, I want magic. Ferrets turns the show a delay there. You're like a weird emperor who just sits on his throne, like perform for me. I brought you here to perform right? You come here. It's like a comedian coming here and being no serious doing your job, but you're a magician. It's a podcast like they wouldn't expect. He was nice to do it the first time, but they wouldn't expect to be doing with the first time. He came in costume changes. He was all set for it. No, I'm saying it was nice of him to do it to prepare and come in and do it as as a to take on a producer Oreo role here for a moment has one of the producers of the show you book a magician. He does magic, maybe his, I'd sit, maybe his his wordplay is the magic trick. Because we're talking into microphones. That's what the show is. My then do a trick where I gotta figure out what you're saying do something. Okay. I did finish this show that that was great. Justin Wellman's magic for humans on that. I don't know if we finished that. I know we did not watch that one about Christmas, that one, right? You, you know, it really wasn't about it. It just said it in passing. I see. But yeah, that we almost got in trouble because Zoe went to bed. We were watching that ups owed, but she was. She had just gone to bed and she goes, she reads, for twenty minutes before she goes to sleep and we were watching it and I didn't know when at first it was like, this is the one I can tell. This is going to be the episode, but I don't know when what, what, how it plays out. And then suddenly he was just like, it's like, when you find out Christmas, is it real? And it was like super loud. Was like, she's she prayed in the next room. Now we have to warn everybody about this episode that you're going to stay home when listen to this with children were dropping f bombs left and right. You were watching that with children. You think people listen to this podcast. Getting ready to go to sleep while they're be in the car, maybe commute to school. You should listen to this with your kids. Know if you're if you're if you're that kind of parent that listens to never not funny with your kids nearby, then you probably don't give a shit if they know Santa's real or whatever. I think it's also time that my son knows it's that was wondering when you were going to say that that loud literally just going to ask you, do you guys think it's time that they think it's time when so how do you do it if you're like, I don't think you do. I think he's got to figure it out. Yeah, it's a little Australia. And I think at this point he I think he hasn't. He's denying it. I don't. I don't think he's playing cores. That's not Oliver's bag. He's earnest and yes, in kind genuine, right. He, I think he knows, but doesn't want, but it doesn't want to let I. Yeah, he wore, he knows and he's keeping it up because he feels like you don't want it like maybe he sends that. Was that savvy? Okay. I don't think no, but he would, but there was a while when it was you clearly didn't want that phase two and you're like, oh, I hope he never figures out. You've said that before and you know, kids are very, it's not about savvy, they're intuitive. They, you know they can pick up. So I, I hear what you're saying because then he we picking up that it's time because the other thing is what's funny about that whole thing is, I'm sure there are kids in his school kids that he knows who have found out and even said things but built into the myth of Santa Claus is the concept of people not believing in Santa Claus. And then there are proven to be foolish. Like in all the movies, it's always like, Fanta is unreal, shoot a sleigh. So like if that's perfect for kids because then if they accidentally find out, you could be like, is. Zero is a year. Is it which by the way I would, I would have done that last year. I will not do that this year. Yeah, I will not shoot our office door Garin. I'm sorry, Gary. Can you run out there. While he's doing that. So I'm not a Christmas, so I didn't have experience, although I did have the tooth fairy, but I think like maybe my parents accidently woke me up when they were doing the tooth. Fairy thing though, did they? I don't. I never said anything, but I was like, oh, and then. So did you guys believe in Santa Claus when your kids? And do you remember what happened for you when you figured it out? My parents forgot to put the presents under the tree. They fell asleep while they were wrapping or whatever they were doing, and then you woke up like we're, there's nothing under the tree and then, oh, you. Elry eighteen nine hundred. I was. I was maybe well, I had older brothers, stepbrothers and such. I don't know, maybe eleven ten or eleven right in that area. I don't remember how old I was. I had an older sister who I think let it slip her something I don't. I don't really remember it. It's not. It didn't scar me or anything like it wasn't. No. Oh, you lied to me. Oh, I think I probably was at an age where I had an inkling anyway. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. My parents would. We would wake up early on Christmas morning. They would tell us to wait at the top of the stairs. And then at the bottom of our series had a door, which is very dangerous. I think actually it's a weird thing was an old house. They would close that door. We would sit at the top of the stairs for seemingly forever like it, right. It was probably only like fifteen minutes or something, but it felt like a long time because they would have to run down in scramble to get everything all set up a guy. I don't know what they. I mean, they were just like putting the finishing touches on things. I'm not sure get out of there. Yeah, but it would like obviously like now I'm looking, I'm like, well, why wasn't that the tip off? Like, what did I? What were we supposed to think they were doing? Even because it's such a brazen thing, you turn a blind eye like of course because you want to do you want to believe they made it sort of a ritual? It sounds like to they did. Yeah, it's true that which is a good ritual. Actually, if you think about it because then you know you don't have to do all this stuff the night before. Right? Would also do things the night before, I think, but it just was not. Otherwise they typically three in the morning to make sure that everybody's asleep and there was one year that that my dad like, I don't know if he'd penalty. He built it. He wouldn't have the skills, but he got a good got Dollhouse for my sister and like painted, I think he painted it or he like it looked like our house, and so he painted the color of our house. And then he decorated the rooms to look like the rooms of our housing and that I remember hearing years later that like he was up basically all night. Yeah, just funny because that's the kind of thing. Maybe you'd do that over the course of a few months. Took Christmas Eve to do all that, but still wet when she opened. No, I think he probably painted it first and then like he like he had little swatches of our actual wallpaper that he put, but he really, yeah. Those cool. Door is opening. The door is opening, oh, sneaky, sneaky entrance from Wendy, my winning all in black, supporting. We were just down at the rally, the two of us, the corner of laurel canyon and not know what you're talking about. Yeah, it was walkout day we did go. I thought that's where you're wearing the black for that. Just coincidentally, there's a microphone right next to you by the way he, hey, jumping into wells a switch on, there's also a switch on the microphone. Here we go. Hi, yes. How highly evolved of you to go to that? I, that sounds condescending. It's not. It's so not. Trust me get this. When I tell you we felt very awkward. We were the only dudes there for a little while and it was like to we join in the chance. Are we just standing off to the side of being supportive over here? Not trying to overshadow, not whatever it was weird. I think you're great. Thank you, Wendy. When he gets it in this room right when we were just talking about it and then we'll, we'll take a break and we'll bring over to the table. You have children know how old were you when you stop believing in Santa Claus. Six. Oh, Jesus early. Very early. Yeah, I didn't want to believe in him. He scared the hell out of me, and I found out that the cookies we were leaving out. We're being eaten by my dad because I caught him eating cookies, but I was so relieved because someone walking into our house really scares creepy like it. I like it. What am I gonna use? I if Oliver still believing. I'm gonna have to turn the ring off because that would go. Yeah, because the aerobically. Then there should be video of him. Arriving in the ring is not magic, but it's on the ceiling though. He's on the roof as Lionel Richie dancing. You got to ring in the roof. Yeah, gotta ring of the roof roof roof, Frank. There's always a risk of somebody coming down that thing. I can't. I get the whole compound is covered the the excuse for all that stuff is that he's magic. So it doesn't matter like he wouldn't show up eleven it's time. Yeah. Hi, I agree and I'm but I'm very sincere that six months ago I meant it when I said. But when you see your son change in other ways where it's like, oh, now he, he's got to figure this out. Yeah, anyway, my daughter's ten and I don't know if she knows or not if she's humoring us or what? I definitely don't. This is going to get a little talk. I definitely don't envy that decision. Like when you have to take that magic away, do you know what I mean? That's what you don't take it away. You just let it happen. I think. Well, if you have to get to the point where you gotta sit him down. Yeah. Memory serves. My mom told me that in a carport in our car by the way, there's no Santa for some. I. No, it wasn't my last, but another thing I had to tell you about it, don't forget your sandwich, you, here's your lunchbox intends not real big race thinking. I think it might have been like she had to tell us that because maybe there wasn't going to be a lot of. Gift set years something, but I don't remember ever not ever having issue down near the cut is this is the dark part because I didn't know what you meant by so far. Nothing's been done to me. I thought the idea of parents tone the cassette said, is that real? It's dark. It's meetings dark. Nobody can you're, you're a horror movie fan when you say dark, thanks a fan of family dramas, and that's just a as a parent that seems like a dark. By the way in your said is not real. And then by way. Because he's dead. Yeah, that's that makes it dark. Not his version. Oh, all right. Well, I guess sad dark. Oh, you could those two, thanks going. I was going to break. You heard me going. When he mcclendon Covey is here, she's from the television program, the Goldberg, which I wanna see premieres this week or is it next week? It is this week. You know, what's my son's favorite show? I love your son. He's obviously brilliant lad. He is. His name Oliver's my son. Yeah, and he is. He loves, he loves it. He loves it new any. I'll say this to you at, I won't make eye contact with you because I say it and you guys don't say that almost weekly, the fat that you're never nominated for an EMMY is sickening to me. You are wonderful there. I've said it. You did make brief eye contact when you said I did. Well, I look, I want to see the response. I wanted to make it about me. You didn't get enough credit from her because of the women's March thing. Gotta go so great. You're so great. The show is great that thank you and and my son is going to be thrilled. He was very sort of this morning to hear that you were coming in. Well, and here I am empty-handed. I've got nothing to soften the blow of no Santa Claus. I, I should have brought a shirt or a lunch pail or your something lunch. Pail. Do you think, hey, this, I'm just spitballing here. Would it be better if he found out from winning McLennan Covey, that's their snow, Santa Claus. Imagine he's going to listen to this episode parts of it. No, he's not gonna. Listen to this episode. Five, five, five, five. He doesn't listen. Well, when do you live down? You'd live south of here so you can you know what swing bum still right by LAX what you swing by there and Salo say, look, Oliver, let me break it down. Yeah. All right. You're a big boy and it's time to just tune into the fact that Santa is a Christmas clown. Okay. He represents everything that's good about the holidays, but we. No, no, he's not real right. You know, he's not real. See, it's just fun. You can just pretend that he brings presence, but you know that it's mommy and daddy, right? But you can still, we can still pretend. I mean, we can still put Santa Claus up and you know it's just a symbol of the holidays, but you know, he's not really coming into your house right? You haven't given me a chance to. Right. Yeah, here's ten dollars Oliver. All right. Wait a minute lending is here. The goldbergs premiered I get what is Wednesday nights. All right. So this happened last night. Then if this episode digits on Thursday morning, I am too far away from the table for my arms to be very comfortable. Right. It's nothing you can do about it though. Nope, I'm stuck locked into the position. I forgot to mention super glue on my hands decided to do this, so I cannot real theoretically that I could I could many solutions. Yeah. 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And just the other day I was wearing this very same t shirt that I'm wearing today. I'm wearing it. I'll say it. We'd be able to much got a very nice compliment from a stranger waiting in line at the. A food court today at the mall. Nice. So go to ever lane dot com slash Pardo ever lane dot com. Slash part of that has ever lane dot com. Slash Pardo ever laid a better way to dress everybody. Welcome back to the program of soda. I don't think ever since the top twenty three o seven don't even get it right. Correct. Very exciting. Well, here Winnie mcclendon Covey is with us. She's from the hit television show the goldbergs when he's been did podcast Thon yes. You find out what year it was. Wendy in two thousand fifteen was at fifteen or sixteen I six sixteen what was it? Sixty? Fourteen fourteen ooh, fourteen do one and fifteen. Fourteen bread up the top row. I was growing out a bad haircut. Yeah. I remember word I've was, you looked wonderful. What are you met? All right. You not mad. It was very nice of you to have me there, and it's nice of you to have me here today. I'm delighted the positive energy. We welcome it in. You were wigs on that program? Yes, probably weaves. You're on that program. I've got to that. They rotate back and forth. They get quite fried. I'm not going to do that to my own hair. You're not? No. Okay. I like it that they fix it before I get there. And so it cuts down on the amount of time I spend in the chair. You see, just put it on like a little hat. Yeah, go about my day. What? What was this fourth season? Fifth season. Sixth sixty. We're in our sixth season Cleal boy. I can't believe it. We lucked out yet. No. Well, it's good network shows just don't last that long anymore. So I'm living in my blessings living in my joy. Are you breaking into a song right now? Three quarter. Now when he I'll tell you this Mary briefly and I am not dead not to make it sad, but my mother passed away on New Year's Eve. I saw my mother every week would rave about the goldbergs and I just assumed because my mother was raving about it. I don't care. Okay. It would be like, you know what? Show the coal bricks. And then it became when she started watching my son Oliver and we're gonna basis, it became a special show. That and big bang would be there to shows and kinda felt the same way about big Bangla new to avoid to. And then this is what happened when I'll share it with you when my mom passed away on New Year's Eve on New Year's day, we had one Goldberg's that was on the DVR that was for them to watch when she came over with Oliver. I still, why don't we watch the goldbergs tonight? Non-euro grandma and we watched it and both any all my wife Danielle went, why aren't we watching this? This show is phenomenal. And we ended up then Danielle and I've binging and it's a word. I don't like all up to catch up and we'd love it to death. Thank you so much. I'm I'm sorry about. Your mom next, that's terrible, but but I will tell you this if I wouldn't even know your show is good if she didn't die. So well, something good came from a good woman. Good woman with amazing taste. So did love. Thank you. Mention big banks. A hit or miss with her. Why didn't trust her? Generally? She's pretty spot on, and but I, this is horrible because we have friends over there. I, I don't like big bang. And so I guess when she was showing that love for big bang, I just assumed that you don't go into fall into that same category, right? Maybe I trust my mom, the dramas on. On. Comedies anyway. Great. And we're glad you're you, you invest so much. All right. Let's go around the horn very quickly. We'll say a little Garin cockatiel pop culture reason for much by dog pile dot com. Now guarantee went to see that movie over the weekend which you've already ruined for everybody. Yeah. Okay. But what was the name of the movie life itself, life itself. You haven't seen it, but it's getting very mixed reviews. What not in this room now, is it a? It's not. It's not not good. Oh, gosh. What was bad about it? What? What didn't ring true for you? The cast is really good, so it wasn't them it just there's just a lot he's trying to shove in. I don't want to ruin it for people want to see it, but there's a lot going on and weird coincidences that just are no, yeah. And I was expecting to cry and I didn't. So I said it gave me blue eyes because I didn't blue blue. Blue balls. Awkward. I. I thought it was a wonderful phrase Garron I, I enjoyed. Is that what the Sinatra old blue eyes. You could never cry. Cried Frank Sinatra, I bet she never did in that era. It was just tantrums. Yeah, right. Just through things. So there was no need to cry because he got it all out by smashing, windows and things. He'll be over not knowing his son, no. Oh, during about Ronin. Yeah. Is that now you think that's really his son. He looks good. Also looks just like all the male family members of Mia pharaoh. Let's exact. He looks at xactly like her brother. Okay. A little bit. I mean, I get it, but I don't think there's this list of Woody Allen in there. That's what I'm saying. It's like, I don't know the look. That's an interesting point. Though. Jeans are pretty strong. There's gonna be a nose or an ear or something that's going to be Woody Allen. You don't see it at all. By the way, nothing gets between me and my Jewish jeans. Because they're so what we're saying is that Mia slept with Frank while he was married to Barbara crap. All right. So we're putting it out there. I Jame Jayme they would run around them. Never. They never really started. Know that part of it. I didn't know because I just knew that she had been with Frank. I thought I thought she was with Woody at the time, but I didn't realize he was also married, of course, with Barbara for years, but he was he was publicly with me affair at some point wasn't ADS. They were married. They were married. Okay. Yes. When she was insanely young too. Right? That's right whole mess. Yeah. Wow. Wasn't that the way back then? My mom got merged was nineteen. Paul hearkens to to deflation much older man. No, actually not. You're right. That's a great point now to a gentleman. Three years. Her senior, yeah, very common. Yes. Very common. My my mom got married at seventeen. Wait. What went to high school on her wedding day, is that true was not pregnant? Why? Mary seven wanted to get married, really? Yeah. And are they still married still married real now, are they just waiting it out or. I think it's, I think it's well. We've come this far. Kids go to the home. What does. So how long are they married over fifty years? Really? Yeah. And you think they haven't been blissful fifty years believed right? Believe me and she turned eighteen the next month. So it was like. You kids are obviously. Going in that direction. Let's just do this and get it over with on a Wednesday. Wednesday wedding. Yeah, you'll get your homework time after reception and go to school the next day. How many brothers and sisters do you have? One sister. A younger younger? Yeah. And one adopted sister who is twenty two, twenty two currently in that non bliss full house? Yeah, anymore. I mean, they're look the greatest of friends. You know, I'm just going to say it wasn't a very romantic fifty years, whatever. It's been. I've said too much. My parents are great, wonderful people do you think? And I don't wanna get too personal. Do think that they got married because they were waiting to have sex until they got married. And so they're like question to this. Well, I thought that, yeah, but they did not wait. Oh, I found out later. Interesting. So I think my mom wanted to get out of her house. And just. Didn't feel like waiting that extra month. How much older is your dad? My dad is three years older, so not that? Yeah. So he was it's not like, you know she was marrying into security or something, right? Yeah. Did he was on ped- you cover what? The use of my my Houston pad pad. That's a very loaded word. No, I think he lived with his parents until he until they got married and they got a little house or something a little got a little apartment with lawn furniture in it, and. Just made it work. Apparently I love it. Yeah. Right. It's great to two two girls move out delivering a third one. Let's bring a third one in. Yeah. All right. All right. All right, Jared, your thoughts, I scored story that's a movie wanna. See, that's I feel like that's the movie you wanna see. Do want to say. That's a series right there. Yeah, seven is you go to school in the wedding dress or there? Are there photographs of this or listen? Maybe maybe she brought her wedding dress in in the same bag as Jim close. Good changed at school in the locker rooms. I don't know. I don't know, maybe show until I guess it was a poorly attended wedding. My grandma didn't feel like inviting anybody because it was a Wednesday, and it was like, well, let's not. Let's not bother people. You know. That's that's kind of the the. What do you what do the motto of our family on our family crest Latin for don't bother people with your invitations. Don't make people buy you a gift. Wow, you know, they could've used some furniture. I was sitting on the back of those. Those those. We've, yeah, lawn furniture using the metal with the with the week, nylon, nylon, four. Four. Got it really for a rally. You're very good. Yeah, I'm good guy. Fado attached to my lack of for me since I guarantee also pointing quiet one more important question. What was your mom Covey and your dad and mcclendon, or where was your dad also all ready? McLennan Covey? My my dad is mcclendon and my husband is Covey. Oh, oh, got it. All right. I, yeah, I like to make it just as difficult as it can be from people. Yeah. Well, there's more and more people who grew up in like their parents. Their mom didn't take their dad's name, and so then they just combine the name like I know kids like that. So yeah, I, it's, it's becoming, I think, but then what do you do the next generation? Do you go into four, Nancy. It's not that he's, I took his father's name proper. At this banished culture that they just keep adding all the all the surnames. Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah. So you go that route pushman your? Yeah. Go full span, close. All right, it. Once I said, I'd let it turns out that wasn't as important as I thought was, but I didn't want that chapter of the show to close without finding out where did Covey, where's McLennan? The only one that had that book open. Yeah, I know. I realized that now I apologize. Didn't need to be sad. All right me a written apology because I, I apologize to the fans. You should your. This is your show. You could have steered it away. You could have just stopped me when you said this is important, we got. I did actually jumping over you. Stomach and you really couldn't have stopped it. All right. I apologize, right. What's it goes back to your bit about how you interrupt me all the time? It turns out in this case? Accurate. True. All right. I'm gonna go over to guarantee. Is that gonna be all right, where you want to want to know? What am I take this? No, we're good. You want to know where my name came from. I don't really. During you saw Christine is well over the weekend. You've lost Christine last night, monitor that out. Yeah, on DVD Blu. Ray four k. okay. Four KKK because this fortnight, it's at the same time. What's four k. what do you mean? Four k. above Blu, Ray Ray and they're making discs like this. Now the Rick and four k. discs I literally this is we were just watching Johnny Carson last night on the on the antenna TV, whatever it was, and there are things like Johnny is so out of it, but like he's he's hip and with it. But then there are things where he doesn't understand and you're like, yeah, it's a, it's a cassette Johnny. And he's like, no, that's something. Right. Learn something new. He's earnest and genuine about it, but it's like. Rita fucking book. And that's how I just felt like a little of ours. You don't know about four k. near the business. I've never heard of it. Are you talking to me or Johnny, you know, I don't know more miss. Okay. Ultra HD you ever heard that term. I've heard about your HD. Four k. is okay, but you know, the thing is it's completely unnecessary. And I don't mean to make you feel bad about your choices Garin. But if your TV is smaller than eighty inches, you will not see the difference unless you're sitting like this close to. It has a reminder eighty inches if freed the language when he is forty, my Cox. Yes. Congratulations. Do the math does not all that good. Great. Oh, she's applauding your bravery. What well today for that? What? So you're saying unless you have a giant, what am I going to sixty? Five inch, which I do not by the way. I don't think you human visual resolution really can't see a lot of this stuff. It's it's it's, I don't know what the, I don't know what the limit is. I think eight k. might be the full limit, but I think eight k is it perceptible to the human eye? Yeah, that's more for like the movie projection. Like if it's if it's blown up very, very big, then you will see doesn't really. It doesn't really matter because you don't resolve it. Your eyes don't necessarily if it when you see a big poster on a on a building, right, the pixels. Are that big? Right? So you don't. It sounds cool and for sports you, you don't have the blurring so so that helps for the motion. But for the actual, it's cool but it doesn't matter that much. All right. Well, good purchase Garin. Yeah. Didn't you got a TV and a player and the the parents at least one disk. You're in on this. How big's your TV sixty? Five sixty five, six, twelve inches. And he says, it's amazing. Those were his words. Have you ever a beat it with a blue Ray? That's yeah, you know what? I have not a beat it. I should AB it. You gotta try that. I think I'll ABC Chris, nocco Christine DVD. I think I might have that idea. Yeah, that'll be nine. ABC it. Okay. Sure. I don't know the answer to that question. If he knew I would tell you, let's say ABC you just dropped some major tracks there with ABC. Yeah, yeah. Am I the only person here look. No, because he does it all the time. That's the. I mean, we were ready for it. That meant a lot to me. Thank you. Know they were just intoned. It sounds like you do not go see? I did not go see them. To go to as many concerts as I can go to 'cause I can't go on vacation, so I go to. I just don't have time to go. We've got some downtime. You've got seven to ten days. You can get away. Not really, really not really know what else is going on when they win the Berg's are not the in business. Well, I mean, I did four movies over the hat. Move to say, go to a lot of shows, but I didn't. I did not make ABC last one I saw was David Byrne at the not the issue. Tell the orpheum. Nope, it was still downtown the shrine that was thrown out. Yes. That's right. Yes. And that was good, so good. Everybody raving about that. What made it? What made it so good? You know what it did you ever see? Stop making sense? I did and I loved it. Okay. So it was kind of like that performance art. Okay. The musicians never sat down the entire time. They danced, they all danced. It was like the staged wacky production where they were all wearing the same outfit. There were lighting cues there were, there was choreography. It was magnificent. It was so good and David Byrne for. I mean, there's not not a spring chicken. Was up there for two hours, just killing it loving. Yeah, I can't recommend it was good. Yeah, it was amazing. Okay. Yeah. And you bought his most recent album is? Well, I would imagine I don't have it yet. You don't have it yet. Even even the high of the show. Why? Because I have a tesla and it it plays whole albums like you can get into slacker radio, and I kind of don't have to buy albums anymore. So useless. Maybe I should just do that out of support and solidarity. For your fellow artist, you know, okay, you've shamed me and now I'll do it. Okay, I'll do it. You've got ten dollars. I do. What do with album if she doesn't need was another window shit. What she does with it. Birds go through a tough time. I'm gonna wear around my neck death's door for what I just heard. Maybe you buy it and then you condescendingly give it to someone as you have to listen to this like this is the best album of the year and then make them go, why this? And then they go into a tailspin trying to figure out what's so funny about it. I have not heard this new one. People are raving about it. Is it just just out now like reasonably right before this tour? He's on the boring despite this up. Gotcha. Now what did you just say? You said he's at death's door based on you said he's no spring chicken. So I assume you meant he's nine. And you went straight to the basement with that. I don't know. He is. He is very much not dying. He's just not a young man. How old is they burn? Let's let's try to guess you wanna lay sixty. Hang on, get ready. Okay. When you we're, we're gonna we're gonna. I'll bet a dollar as to how old David Byrne is. You don't have to participate if you don't want to know, I'm participating dollar. Okay, we'll get the chip there. We have guests chips, but we dollar into the. All right. So the guest chip in is a this a, I guess? Yeah, as a marker sweatpants. They're not, they're, they're sweatpants. Those are those those where they said that the most comfortable pant in the world is that I don't know. I don't know if I got this allows BAC Verizon, I stopped at the outlet stores. Where'd you get them. Hello, Armani. They look great. Are they comfortable? They're very comfortable and I've had similar pants from a company called beta brand. And the one thing I have to make sure to remember is when I watched them to probably dry clean them because if I wash them on hot, they'll go, oh, yeah, shrink up. Yeah, safety. I tend to, I'm wearing guys a case anyway. It was curious, don't end curious and thank you. Thank you. All right. Here we go. We're all in everybody's in on this. I did notice that the those genes are hugging your calves in a way that I've never seen before and you. These are skinny jeans, skinny jeans. Yeah, I've gone to the skinny part of your new vegan lifestyle holding give Garin has recently turned vegan, so you won't shut up. We won't shut up about it. We keep making him talk about it. When he, how old are you think David burners. Sixty six sixty six. I was in that range to. I'm going to do it. I'm gonna go up top sixty nine sixty nine. I'm gonna man I guess sixty eight then how all the same area we we might be low. Well I mean I I think we're all low. I'm going to do. I'm going to do the game. Show thing. Through. So I figure in the eighties, he's probably in his thirties. So to make the math easy, I'm going to say he was thirty five in nineteen eighty eight yet thirty years to that. So it makes them sixty five. So I'm gonna go sixty five. I mean not logic colds up. I'm just going to do seventy seventy. All right. I'm gonna take the upper register, high Garin cockerel. We're talking about a singer, so. Have you seen that? It's on top of get off topic. You've seen that version of whether they, they put David or put Donald Trump's head on David Byrne for that once in a lifetime, no video, you've not seen that little clip that going around. Oh, it's wonderful. I'm, you know, I'm a Trump supporter, so I would not watch anything that would make him look foolish it. This doesn't make him look foolish. I'm not gonna do it. I just will not look at it that really. What were you doing there. Yeah, looking. Yeah, it was. That's right now names that what is I'm currently working on the Sarah Silverman program in on the first episode. Sarah goes to a anti-choice organization, and it's all women sitting around the table and there's one guy and she turns him it goes. So what brings you here? The pussy. And I did a laugh that may or may not have ruined to take. It was so funny. All right. Garin please reveal the as you Mr David Byrne David Byrne born what David Albert. No come on man. That's that's a plan Dag David, Alan Grier. Oh, see what he did. Yeah. Sorry that that was clunky. I apologize he's born fourteen may nineteen fifty two. What does that make? We have a winner on the nose. Wendy. He's sixty six sixty six years old. I was right about them. We're at the concerts and you had the best way you saw his face a certain distance, good job. Well, then well, here's some chips. You can't take him. No, I won't. I won't tell you where a winner we got. I'm not. We're going to. We're going to catch you out. Yeah, I reopen. But you're out for whatever. I'm not doing that again. We have -solutely not your hand up. Oh, that's yours. Oh, my stuffing or purse. That's crazy. I will not take that money issue. We'll do. It will not get to celebrate. Will you take that money? You put it to the next podcast on. You what. What is this not taking it? They're taking the money out. Absolutely not. I don't know who we were applauded. I was applauding charity. Okay. All right. That's fair. Anger. I get fired up. You want more about your tesla? No, I don't. But if you want me to know, I've got things to say, I didn't know that the tesla used slacker radio thing that I haven't heard of in ten years. That's such a random service. I never heard of it. Is this this four k. I think I was like today. I think I was like today. I think it was like before Spotify slacker was around. It's like a pre spot of wasn't it. I don't know. That you'll have musk would do like I, this is clearly here you go. Yeah, but you can pull up any podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Like most obscure. Music, you can think of it. It locates it. The one thing I don't like about tesla. I'm listening to tell you right now. Whole thing's electric right runs on a computer. What happens when the computer shorts, those things. And you're in the fast lane on the four. Oh, five has it happened? Yes. Tweet what is happening. So what happens? Luckily I was I was at a point on the four zero five words we're, there is a shoulder. You can pull over Mon in the fast lane, and that's what I had to do. And I called my husband totally panicked, like I, I don't know what to do. I can't start the fucking car. Right. Does it? Does it have like a failed procedure? When does that like? Does it at least slow you down gradually, you know, it just turned off too. Coast, I'm coasting. I'm gonna get over. I mean, I got over. I really, I was so panicked. I don't know really how I did this. I did start it up again. Did I got home? And then they had to take my car on a flatbed truck to the dealership down in Irvine, and you know, I did not need that. No, I did not need them. I don't know. No one that no one needs it. I heard about the having with a Chevy volt or the first general. Yeah, like an intersection, a guy that at least works with that happened to and that's scared the hell out of me. That's my biggest fear with all these electrically controlled vehicles. It's just like, because we were computers, we and they crash and they. Yeah. So you, you hope that a car if that it's separated enough that if that happens, you won't die, which you didn't think Innis, but how cars and you're supposed to trust this thing to drive it self. You know, it has that road feature where you can just put it on autopilot and it drives itself. I do not know what had that feature. It does. What does that mean? Meaning if you're on a long road trip, hopefully just going in a straight line. You can let the car drive itself and you can nap. Will you have to now? I would not do that to have your hands nearby or whatever right or no? Allegedly, no, because it has you know, bells and whistles and things to keep you from getting too close. It slows down speeds up, but I don't know to me it's too dicey, especially when no one else knows that that's what you're doing. Right. So they're not gonna be like, yeah, and someone died doing it. Oh, well, that's my. I was thinking of a self driving car, hit somebody and killed them. But that was a different thing. And I don't think it was tesla. It was like they were testing. There wasn't a tesla where because the thing is it's not technically fully Thomas and somebody literally fell asleep because that's what I'm saying. I think I think you're not legally allowed to have a car that lets you do that. Yeah. Okay. So somebody said, oh, wow, this is auto drive. So I'm just going to not think they went to slits fucking crazy. They were. They were paying zero attention. You're you're not allowed to do you do still have to be a human Brett tension. And so that was what I understand why at least that's what tesla was saying, why they y. Big crashed. It just shouldn't be released to the public yet as some. Yeah, you can do. You shouldn't just be able to do that. Have you done it for fun yet? Like I have. No, no. Too scared. I don't know the, I think it's kind of the only design for highways. I don't know if you can do it. I it, it's. It's supposed to be like you're up to speed on the highway and then you can flip it on and then there's no other traffic around you, you, you know, even if there is traffic, it'll it'll say for her to show. Oh yeah. If you're a frayed of it. Yeah, right. No, I, I would like to use my backup automatic parallel parking thing for six months using that now I use it and it's the most amazing thing in the world. You had that on the test as well. That automatic parallel parking business, it's got it all. I don't know. I, I know you can summon the car from a parking spot like you can back it out without being in the car that's like kit. That's kind of that's kind of cool when you do that. I haven't done it in a long time, but now I'm afraid of the car. You're okay, Chris, I need sticker. I need that student gets me in the fast lane. I get to work get something the the Nissan leaf. I might do that through the new one I might. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It looks good, right. It's a little less ugly than the last one which was really. I like that. Strives pretty. Have a love affair with making high-tech cars. Look a little bit extra weird. Prius. Has you covered with that sentence. Japanese. The Prius was very much like what it doesn't have to literally look like a plant like you can make. It looks sort of pool the Honda, high tech vehicles. They're a little bit weird. They are. I think they put those covers over the back wheels for no reason like that's not helping the insight or whatever. Then what is the? No, just to be clear, we're talking about the Japanese. Yes, sir. Wouldn't make sure standing by the sentence I am standing by what make sure. I think we moved onto the else. We've been very clear. All right, this this reflects my opinions. Yes. Yes. It does have UCLA into purpose at those. The rest of the program, Gary. Anything else we've got to talk about that covers the weekend? Fahrenheit? Eleven nine. Oh, boy. Here we go. Here we go. It's great. Like, yeah, okay, it's spoil. It's his best movie. Wow, I'll spoil that way. I kind of given up on that guy. I wasn't even it's a very. I, it's liberal. It's crazy liberal, but also he doesn't let the Democrats off the hook. Okay, that's going on, which I thought was kind of. Right. Interesting. Learned a lot. Learned some things motive bombing that upset me a little bit of. Do? No. No, don't tell. Oh, don't tell you. I'll tell you after you'll go see it. Don't you see movies? Yes, I do. See what's the last movie you saw. Let's see. I was at home and I watched Harlem nights. Do we remember Harlem nights, Richard Pryor? Yeah. And yeah, it was delightful holds up. No, it totally does. It does. It's fantastic. Grew that Johnny, four k. agrees. I think, isn't it? Yeah. All the great delaration touch my Nigel. Yeah. No, that's the other one. No, that was her tells financial who's the other Roma Downey is the financial. She seems to be a good spirits these days. I don't know what else he's married to Mark Burnett and she, oh boy, went on nonsense Twitter, Bruce, she got a bruise that up instantly. Yeah, she was. She was cleaning fast with some facts, EMMY fight and the fight in such a good Christian with those fast and loose facts. Okay. Okay. Mr. nine Fahrenheit, we got super religious. I know she is right and then she lied. Lied. Oh, about Tom Arnold. Are you watching that show and be watching that. To start. Yeah, yeah. On vote, we watched the first two episodes very engaging. Cool, very gauging. There's a couple a reality show. It's a little produced the it was at the search for the Trump tapes. I think it's called on the vice really can't wait to see the next episode which I think comes out tomorrow night. Cool. It's good. Really. He's engaged timeouts engaging his. There's enough self-deprecation there. He makes, you know, spend a lot of time making fun of himself, then Arnold shows up, makes fun of them. It's it's fun. Cool. And then you know, what did he think he thinks he's doing good work and maybe he will, maybe the reveal will be that he gets what he wants if he did and they're waiting fucking show it on TV. That's crazy if that's okay, right? Yeah. We doesn't Ronan Farrow have some tapes now. Yes, believe he does believe Tom has alluded that via Twitter feed. Well, we'll see what happens tomorrow, low wish everybody. Look. It's big day. Let's check in with the kingdom. Palms back there behind the Michigan troll, the Chilean Hofburg Elliott. Anything over the weekend that we could weigh in on. Well, I I tested a board game yesterday. No, them. That's. People when they make board games, they want to get some feedback and doesn't. It was a game, and there's a forty call that play test. What's the phrase slick test you just played test. So is a was the more complex game, but it was it was it was fun to do you do that somebody's house or do you go to a conference room? So there's a, there's a company called breaking games and they have law fice in in Burbank or what's the thing right? Studio city. And so the invites folks and then go into their office in nice, nice surroundings, the provide some snacks. When you get chips, this is the company publishing it. They ask you to test a company, but yeah. Okay, cool. And what was it like a family. Denver was at its borders on what? What's called, a hobby games. Nerds like me, play comp, complicated games, work replacement, that sort of thing this, this is that kind of game, but it's it's gets got like dragons and monsters and stuff in it, but you're going around, you're putting your people in different spots. You're getting some resources you're collecting things to to then afford to hire a warrior or whatever it is. So like a DVD type of, I mean, I. Yes, from far away. But if you played the envy, it's not. It's not that kind of game. It's not a role playing. Okay. It's like settlers of Catan if you've heard of that, but more comfortable more complex. Okay. Have you heard of that. I know about these games. Is it a campaign. No, not a Camden play this over the course of an hour or two. Okay. So it's not a long that a super slow. That's good. Run out an interesting we bought a game. Oh, my son bought it with his own money met. Oh, he bought a game called blink sleet that with late yesterday, it's kind of a match game. He sort of game where you pull out a card, it'll say like blank house and everybody has a little thing. You write down your word and if you match only one person, you get three points if you if you match more than you only get one point and it's kind of a kind of a Zork game version of match game. You're trying to thread the needle. There you try you. You're trying to you're trying to match just one person you're trying to just once or you're trying to throw the needle of like, you know, like full house matched everybody, right. So everybody gets one point. But if you would have said like I did what would be another pine creek house brick house. So just you and I, we each get three points while they all got one with full house. It's about like knowing the other people in like, what do you think they ask? And there is a boy. What's the word I'm looking for? Uses it all the time, a variance. There is a variant where you can say in advance, and I think this w points I'm gonna match, Wendy. Oh, wow. And then then you will get double the points and then while others, you know plug, but you need a lot of people play that. Well, we played it yesterday little game day over the house. The Joneses came over there. You're trying to come up with. Keep by that joke is zero times. I never said it until right now, and I throw with responsi- got to be honest with you. I would've thought you guys would all lined me up and then I'm me up and then kicking the ball. Do you want that? It was more fun with a group and then they had to leave. And we said, let's play again with just the three of us and it's fun, but not as fun. Yeah, it seems like almost wouldn't work because you can't really it. It's if you have four, four or more even though it says three, it more fun, play games in the Covey. Mr. Covey, we play cards against humanity. Yeah, that's a fun dinner party game. That is a good dinner party animals. Are you really get into. Have everyone over play the cards against humanity. And I like that one. It's probably really fun. Yeah. What do I exploding kittens? Have you played that one? Yeah. Now that sounds awful. You're not released putting kitten. Okay. There's a new one. All right guys called, you've got crabs. We have that. We played that yesterday as well. Is that good? It's fun. So we got her birthday. Fun. Fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Perhaps I'm intrigue children don't know that is a double dog. And it comes with a little like a cabinet with drawers comes with a little cardboard cabinet. Yep. We played that then where that blank slate. Those were the two games we play yesterday with the Joneses. Sounds like fun Sunday. It was my first, my first appearance at the game day. Oh, really? My wife and son play with the Joneses many times. Usually when I'm out of town, I took the hint. They don't want me to participate. Then they said, they finally welcomed you in, they welcomed me and how to go. It's great fun. You didn't try to host it or anything. I didn't get up by my microphone long. Good. Who's guy who's got jobs, I will. I will back you up. People might think that you would be on institution like that, but in my experience you or the opposite in family gatherings intuitions, you kind of like step back more so than your normal off air self, even like it's, it's weird. I don't understand it. Honestly, it's like, why did you mean being so quiet? He just letting it all happen. I get enough here. Get accolades at the home, son about accolades. Participate. A painting now, but I just wanted to defend you because people, I think people might think Jimmy would be insufferable situations. Think people talking about it. I want to. I want to set the record straight. Joneses specifically asked me to tell you there's something up that I'm not inviting until this very week that they've done this upwards of five. Other times that is weird. I thought you were gonna say that you were just not interested. You went to a movie. Dick. You guys have fun. I drive away later. Oh, we got with there's uneven teams. Now, see you guys. Really got to check out this. I gotta go see this. This nine eleven eleven nine damage when I was still intrigued by these concerts that you're going to before David Byrne who what else have you seen? Let's see. I wanna know what you're into. Sounds like you're going to. I'm going to back on Friday the, yes, yeah. Last year we went to God. We saw everybody. We saw Tony Bennett as Janet, Jackson Depeche mode. While you do Co. she we'll Tang clan. We saw. Mm. All over the map. Yeah. Yeah. I love a show. I don't. You know, I didn't really have any feelings about him whatsoever, but I thought I should go there. They're playing here by, I should go, why not? It's crazy. I'm a fan of theirs and I've never seen them live. You know what it was so fun throughout old dirty bastard bucks into the audience like that. Like that a lot tribute. Yeah, you know, I like to get up and scream, fuck. Yeah. Hell yeah, you know, is your husband the fan he wasn't. But again. Wendy bought tickets. So that's. Okay. I like it activities director, how sure I buy the ticket. Drag us to the shows how Jackson show I wanted to bring my wife to that I say is if I'm a nine hundred fifty eight. I, I meant I wanted us to go. It was extraordinary, was it was she's got it. Yes, she just has it. She does that thing where. She's so charismatic that all she has to do is just sorta sweep her is through the audience and she gathers you in. And then you're like, okay, I'm on the journey. I'll do whatever her dancing was amazing. We had plenty of time where it was just her in blue jeans on a stool with a microphone singing. Nice. No backup tracks is just her. She brought out all her rhythm nation dancers the original one for the very end. They did rhythm nation. She introduced them one by one told a personal story about each one. I was in tears. It was beautiful. She's fifty one years old, happy birthday. Fifty one years old and killing the game and just, you know, I, I never got to see Michael Jackson. Did you twice was I never got to see prince? Did you see principally about five times it? Yeah, it's don's like maybe we're racist and urine. That's what it sounds like. What is that that you were avoiding, really, you're taking to protect you. Avoiding the black entertainer interest. Now you're making up for by going to see Wu Tang. Janet, and I'm going to have to have a long talk with myself. Real limited this stuff here. Wow, I wish I'd seen Michael too, but like I remember the victory tour like I did lived three hours away from New York. We couldn't go. He didn't play that many dates on that tour. That was like the post thriller what he went with his brothers and then and then I reached an age where it was not cool to see Michael Jackson and that was it. There was really, no. I saw it on the bed tour. Yeah, that's exactly when it wasn't cool. Is that true for? Well, you know. That ever happening in my school. It was, I went to a very hateful negative school where I would have been made fun of for going to see the bad tour. Wow, I did have I got that. I remember I got that cassette for Christmas and. Which is. Album on listening. Listen to the music. You flip it over. How does the music stick to that little ribbon? That is what I don't understand. A real to reel, but your ball compound. Okay. So you know what the real deal is? Yes, the same. All right, solid versions thing I Gotcha. They put it in plastic, so you can't serve pop it into a deck and. Yeah, I've got that tape for Christmas, and I was embarrassed to tell my friends. I didn't tell anyone that got listen to in private. You you were younger that you're that was thirteen. I think me there's no doubt about that. Younger than anybody else. But you but then after, yeah, I don't know if he toured again. Well, he toured in the nineties once or twice, I guess. Dangerous tour too. Early nineties. I just I thought I thought the bad toward twice. I may have seen bad and dangerous that may have been it. Did he think black or white. I don't remind I don't remember. I used to be a drunk. Let's remember that that I used to, you know. Get drunk. A lot of things I may never see them. Yeah, no, I remember I remember very well what you're going to see them at the certainly for the bad tour that must have been great. The Rosemont horizon woman named Carla. Here's joke a woman named Carl. Yeah, I was going to give her last name and decided not to give her a little ended in this last world tour was ninety six ninety seven. That was the history world to umbrella. But that's it. Did that come to the states? The stuff that didn't come? The states there was m j and friends. There was the Michael Jackson threes. Nursery celebration. Those in New York, and then this is which didn't even happen. Yeah, September seventh nineteen. Ninety-six Tober fifteenth. Nineteen ninety. Seven worldwide. Hm. Does seem. Then he said no, and I wouldn't have seen might have no. All right. Who can solve it this way floor? Who cares? Let me call Carl see what she thinks. If she isn't, he thought, but he's great. Very enjoyable. Did Janet do any of her brothers? So he did not do scream. Did she do scream? I feel like she might have done scream in a medley. Yeah. Yeah, I'm mad. I didn't go to that. Oh, man. To, you know what? Give yourself that gift. I'm gonna give yourself a gift and when she comes back out, you gotta do it when go, yeah, but about the you don't wanna wanna see, again, I saw years ago is maybe talking because I just watches on TV. I want to see Cher again, I wanna see her. I don't care that she's seventy five years old. She is going to tour again isn't she has a new album out so she'll be coming out soon. Yeah, she has dates Oliver over the country except for here on this tour seventy. Spent a lot of time on her website over the weekend. That somebody is this guy right here. Yeah, she's got all ABA. It's all ABA comes coming up. You might skip that long? Yeah, maybe not necessary. Yeah. Every slacker can skip though, right. Pass sunny. Yeah, I like those songs, but I don't need to hear them either. I like share and Gaba do I need that? Combat need the crossover. I don't either way now. Then we're going to see culture club and the beef fifty two's bird. The third over the third, are you going to work? Oh, because I was going to be talking about on this very show with your friend Minnie sterling, I love her. We talked about it on this very program about why wasn't media was I think it was Midi number of was like, however, really wants to go to that because he loves the b, fifty two's. He likes culture club a lot. He enjoys Tom Bailey. He doesn't know that the Thompson twins, and I said, well, let's the school night and we all decided here. Let them go go one time. And then I turns out we're shooting at night and I can't sticks. Although weight, fuck that we get Dillard done. Nice late. You make them. Maybe Danielle and over going. I meet them at the Greek. Maybe I documented and do doctor degree our problems and then there are salute far. I think you need to do that. You're going to go, though you're going mister coffee, you're going. I'm glad you said I want to go to look into tickets. I remember we got tickets to culture club at the shrine or much smaller than that someone downtown. It was in that area anyway and they cancelled it. Yeah, I still have the ticket stub because I'm so bitter. I saved it. Yeah, he got sick or something. I don't. I don't know something went down with him. Yeah, where the data cancer, I think that's right. You know, it's just so weird that this, this is the music I grew up listening to, and now you could feasibly run into boy, Georgia gilson's right now it is so weird. What do you do when you see them? Like when did you Drew's yourself? Drew's yourself, meet him one time. You're introducing bands at a at an eighty show and he was backstage, and I just walked up to him like I had the right to do so. Oh my God. Hi, I'm a big fan in Molin though is like, oh, shut up woman, son up. Don't be weird, but we took pictures and what he was very sweet, but it's just so strange when you. You know, you're growing up and you have posters of these people in your room and you're making your plans for world domination, and you're like, okay, you know, these im- the songs get imprinted in your mind, and then you meet people and it's such a mind, fuck. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where I'm going with that. I'm just saying it's, it's weird. I'm just saying, you know, Boy, George shops for groceries here in the l. a. area. Okay. Dairy accessible. He doesn't send someone out himself. You asked insta- card it. You seem to know a lot about shopping. Yeah. I mean, my exhaustive study that I've done shares website. I learned. Often for there's no way she's here. Sary's. No, she's not Barbara DVR the story about Barbra Streisand. She like created a mall in the on the bottom floor of her house that she goes shopping in her own house. No, that's not what you does. She, it's. That's where all her things are like all of her chronic like an electronic store, right. Am I wrong? That's how I took it. I think it's all her like memorabilia and stuff like that really know about this and it's it may be her memorabilia, but it's also like like her dresses are in instead of a closet address. Yeah. Yeah. She doesn't shop there, but she in the sense that she's picking out to where she is shopping wardrobe. There's been. But isn't there also like a Starbucks or something? I don't know about starbuck. There is a little cat. I've seen the photo there is like a little cafe type thing, but again, that's just your, it's a tiny room, but is there a staff is I guess what I'm asking? She's got a fulltime staff around that house. There's there's a play about that called buyer and seller. Yes. Yeah. On, right. What does the person who runs her shop. Her mall roots his day light. It's it's funny. Yeah. A one man show who starring rotating people good cover. Yeah, no, they done with. I don't know Byron solar. You say it's higher and seller? Yes. You go to the theaters offers go to these concert. I try. I try, but yeah, but see, here's what I do on my New Year's Eve. I give myself things to look forward to during the year again online, and I start buying tickets for whatever I can find. So that way I know I have something to do every month that I can look forward to it. And sometimes I have to give the tickets away. I did have to do that a bunch of times this year because I was working. I was in Atlanta in Atlanta and couldn't come back. But yeah, I try to go to the theaters much as I can and as many concerts as I can and there we are because, again, can't go on vacation, go on vacation. You're don't allow yourself. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Hey, we'll get a break. We'll get a break. Let's do that. We've back more wondering copyright copywriters. Hey, guys, Matt. Here are some days for you. 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If you if you wanna have a celebrity, sighting celebrity running, you go to the Greek theater, you know, you're going to see at least one possibly two. If I show. At. Save me a dance. I'll be right there in the I'll I'll be with with you. All right. I figured this out, we're going to go. I can't imagine how fun it'd be fifty to show. It'd be like, I don't even love them. I just their songs or infectious, and they must be fun to watch them do that. So I'm I'm, I'm definitely I forgot that was happening. And now I wanna look into going so Wednesday night. Are you able to do that? That's rough. I don't know. Man get a sitter at least down. I'll be at home watching the goldbergs. I like it. And like it for you. Garin. Good for you. That's fun. That's fun. Oliver's very excited about the mentioned that that and the good place for coming back. Good places this week as well. Right Friday, mistaken, Thursday, finished it yesterday. Do you caught up? Hot up. Good. It's good. Yeah, it's good show. Yeah. All right, good stuff. When he doesn't want to talk about that, show parents. I don't know what to say. Sure. It's lovely to watch it. No, you don't watch television. I didn't say that you to watch that show you had a fight with Kristen bell that you let go. Absolutely did not. Once on the set of Becker. No, these are lies. These are lies. I'm sure it's a great show. It was good. Sure I will. Okay. I'll do it. I have an assignment now put a wait till you put it on. No raving about the goldbergs over on their set. They better be right. I thought on that. He I think that anybody at again, I'm guilty of this myself. I told you that story. I think anybody that isn't raving about the goldbergs has never watched episode or if they go on, they've never watched it hard. There's comedy, there's everything you want in a show. Thank you for saying that. I also feel that way. I, you know, I think that a lot of times people might think, oh, we're just a bunch of eighties cliches thrown together, and that's he can't sustain a show for six seasons on, you know. Wang Chung references. No one cares. You may have just described as podcast. Bars lower in podcasting. Going out thirteen years. We're doing just fine with already. Israelis. Just thank you for. Resto. Teen years. That's amazing. Juniors. Yeah. A lot of applause grew. You never know if that Bill plus. It is. It's always feels a casting person, and it seems like you, you seem very, I'm very sarcastic. I'm very sarcastic. Mechanism of mine. Yeah. Okay. It is now I'm quite sarcastic, but I'm also very loving. Yes, very genuine with my compliments. I don't just give compliments for no reason. Never sarcastically offers out shit, three. Right. Well, okay. Now go on going. I don't read it was I think he told his unprogressive with on. Did you grow up in this area? Yes. My. The Long Beach area? Yeah, parents still live in the same house. We grew up. They live three miles away from me. How often do you go see them? Not that often. They're too busy for me. What are they doing? They're they're retired. They do a lot of charity work. A lot of volunteering. My grandma is in her nineties and needs a little help. You know they, they've just got stuff to do. I see my dad works with former gang members talking in ministry at church there. I'm the least of their worries. I ended up not being as much of a disappointment as they thought I was going to be so they don't. They don't bother with me. Reno, nine one one. That's show they could watch and brag about. Yes, exactly. Good. Good. Yeah. What are these movies? Are you see it worked on any come out yet? Well, one of them's about to come out, goosebumps to sound October. Twelfth. I was listening to one of your podcasts on the way up here, and you guys discussed goosebumps too, and the house with the clock and small forever. Jack black. Yeah. And. Jack black is in goosebumps to post to say that, but is it, but because I didn't see him in the trailer? No, no, he's not starring in it. Gotcha. But he does make. It's all right. It's a little more than a cameo, but he is. He has an fun. Cool. So that will come out imminently, but we just shot it. So it's crazy that they rushed it as much as they did. Russia. Do you think that you compete with the clock wall, I guess. But yeah, so that was that was very interesting being in Atlanta in March, filming a Halloween movie of the night with people, not knowing what the hell you're doing. You know like, oh, why is that women hanging in a spider's web. All right. I guess we'll just shut the drapes and go to sleep. You know, so that that's happening. What men want with Terachi Hudson that will come out in January. So you remember the Mel Gibson movie, what women on the remake of that with a lady in the lead on this one, maybe watchable watch. That's my take on that. It's not a big Mel Gibson gun. You're you're, I know you're a Terachi Henson fan with that. Is you. Tell me who that is. I m pire. Oh yeah, of course. They should just at the Justice presented alongside Tiffany, Tiffany. Haddish. Two of them were were, were you there you go to that? I, I've got no reason to go. All right. And I said it sickens me, but it was also on a Monday night, which is a decision decision we're working. Yeah. I mean, I. I'm not gonna go to an award show if I don't have fun, they're not on your enjoy them. No, sitting around in formal wear for hours and hours. What's the point you presented it some of worship it'd be not presented. Yeah, I've presented at the technical Emmys floor. You know, I want to say the writers go the words as well. I did present at the writers guild, my wife rich on those and say that she is said from time to time that you've been there once only once. Did I get to right? And that's exactly what she said to one done. Well, with WCC. Well, when Nope. God dammit. Paul W MCC. Yeah, if you want to throw that. All right. It sounds like a radio station w. MCC. It does. Yes. Sorry, coach. That in Chicago WW's case begin, I think Mississippi. I think it's a Mississippi division, the river, the river, always that how that the old myth. I believe that I believe the mighty separates the ks from the ws radio. I think could be wrong and I was in the game for a little while. So where does the I? I don't know where the Mississippi starts, honestly, like not many, Minnesota, and then down to the Gulf. I know where it ends. I wanna say Minnesota. I could be wrong, but I wanna say Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan somewhere around there, how Michigan, sir talking. So fucking stupid ways. The terrible American because I don't know. I want to say to Minnesota, and then on the west coast, your whole life. So you don't need to know any this almost you've just movie served. Do you like you? Do you like that you like going to different city to shoot, or would you rather be in your own bed? You go to set? I'd rather be in my own bed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But you stay in hotel deny. I stayed in a haunted hotel. Wait, this is not a joke. It was haunted. I did not care for it, and I had to be there for two months toes. What what was happening? Okay. So every night every night without fail. Three in the morning, my microwave door would start opening and shutting open shut, and that is a very specific noise now, did I ever feel scared? No? Did I would lights come on and doors open and shut that I had nothing to do with. Yes, it wasn't scary. It was just annoying. The world's most boring ghost living in my room. And also there was a heaviness in the hotel that was very depressing. Did they put you in there on purpose to get into character for this goosebumps? I think they thought it was cheap because I had to start. I had to stay there for for what men want as well, which was also film. So. Yeah, that's that any hotels down there? I guess it is. So what would you know you arrives in the morning and you would say to your co stars, hey, this microwave happened. They'd go, oh shit. Same with me. You know what I woke up this morning and my oven door was wide open and I don't use the oven what the should is going out of this place. Yes, needed to replace them springs. I don't. The thing is if the door is open, I'd be like, okay, but the fact that it was opening and then closing is you would watch win claw shit. No, no, no. I would be laying in my bed and hearing it, and a microwave door has a very specific sound. So I was it confused me. I thought I was back at home and my husband was making my breakfast, but then I'd look around and I'd be like, oh, fuck. I'm not at home. That's the microwave. But I, you know, should I have gotten up and looked at it and filmed the door opening and shutting I should have done. I should have done that. I did not do it, but I would hear it. Why you and and probably then got my own apartment or a hotel or just run straight straight to the airport, like Forrest Gump just running. Yeah, yeah. That's, but Anna's, my favorite part of that story is that you said your husband makes my breakfast. Not breakfast. Yeah, he does. He makes you my breakfast. No, he goes out for breakfast. He makes my breakfast every month. Where does she go for? Breakfast? He can't sit there and enjoy the company of his wife over. He wakes up early and he goes to a local coffee shop like seven o'clock in the morning every single morning, rain or shine. And then he comes home and makes my breakfast. Wow. And if I have to be at work at five in the morning, he gets up at three forty five in makes my breakfast and then goes back to sleep. That's very nice of him. Is he said, nicest guy in the world, isn't he? Yeah, he's the best hell even I'm not worth it. I. I'll say that I'm the first one to say it. I don't deserve Jack from from the sweet man and he was married twenty two years. Twenty two years. Mr. cubby? Yeah. And you don't wanna learn his first name by the way. It's Greg. Okay. Craig standard spelling or is one of these assholes standards at the end. Standard spelling? Yeah. And you had to spend two months in Atlanta without him, at least because no, then there's the other movie. How long were you there for the other men. I got to fly back and forth. So two weeks, we'll say. But yeah. So I had to make my own breakfast and that had to be hormone, I managed to not burn down the hotel. Microwaves microwave, get somebody looking over your shoulder every moment. Make sure it doesn't happen. Ghost isn't gonna let you burn it down. That's right. Exactly. Maybe out all the fires, I don't know, but yeah. So that was that. All right, Elliot. Anything else before we we covered everything. Right. We'll talk about next episode. Nine. How are you what you did? You went to a spirit Halloween shop over the weekend. I went to one of those two did you. I live right near the. There's a strip of magnolia boulevard in Burbank that has like there's like three Halloween stores in a rub. That's where my son suddenly decided. He loves scary things. So we went and did that. Yeah, that's cool though. Like it is great as creepy and there's Halloween, his son six by the way. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I know. But I, I was wondering if maybe the house of the clock in its walls would be that's probably too scary to though I don't know, virtually like scary things. Yeah, I think you'll be okay with that one. I'm trying to think what core movies are good for kids that age. Well, my my daughter wants to see gremlins. I don't know what I guess you found out about the about what's his name Gizmo and thinks he's cute. So he could watch that one is scary. Yeah, that's nice. I remember being kind of, yeah, it's got the microwave number. They micro. The gremlins gremlins. It's fun. Yeah, that I'm not going out of order who needs goonies. Yeah, it is. It's not a, it's good, but it's fun. We just watched it man. A tough stuff doesn't hold up at all. Yeah, no kid guilt cheapo Gelt you that that make up on that ogre guy or whatever it is that thing is labyrinth is would be good one. Nothing. He wanted some advice from the expert. There's another movie coming out though. That sleep goosebumps, too. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I could probably, yeah, we watch the firm. We have never seen the first one, so we'll watch it for fun. The first one's good. There's new ones for air. It's being rushed. I would be very skeptical. So did they do all the special effects? I, that's crazy because that takes a long time, isn't it? You know, when I went into eighty, are they were still doing them? They were still sliding them in. Yeah. Okay. Now we're the business. Of course, we know what eighty hour stands for for the for the Lakers and the dome. Okay. So when you have to go in and redo your lines re say your lines because maybe they rewrote them or there was production? No as or something like that. Just sometimes you have to do a DR which I don't additional dialogue recording recording. Okay. It you go in and put your headphones on and and you know, drifted match your lips when you do have to match your your exact movement zoo. Yeah, yeah. So that easy to do after hours now for somebody like you've done regular basis, it's it's easy except when you have to run or something like that or get hit or fall down, like you know, it's hard to do that with head. Phones on your head, right, trying to match things. Exactly. But. It's a necessary evil, which is the business you've chosen? Yes, it is. Yes. And what is here with Mr.? Coffee does say that again, Greg. Yes, Greg manages some properties opium. I should. So. All right. But keep close to the vest. Keep them close to ease in the mob. Obviously he's in waste management, and that's often just. Not not going to probe it. I, we play a game on this show called seven's. It's a lot like pyramid. Okay. And we're. That's a friend, Mindy. Sterling one of the worst scores ever on this. But she did was she was outdone eventually she hasn't. She had the score of one. You're trying to get as many points to come shit. She did. She got to one John rustbelt we've got zero. All right. So what happens you're when he's, I'm gonna give you clues. It's like pyramid. I'm gonna give you clues. You have to guess what I'm describing. All right. I those clues. We have seven seconds to get each one. There are seven of them. We want to get as many as we can and it's quick the amount of times we obviously we have to do eighties eighties music, right? Or just eighty eighties eighties music. Or do you give we do any other you sick of the culture come on eighties eighties, radio, music, eighties music. Harry ever go probably the most popular category. And here we go because that's our stuff too. Okay. Okay, ready here we go. Bryan Adams big hit. He got his first real six string. He bought it at the five and dime. It's a year summer. Sixteen s Aerosmith when you're at a building need to go to a different other. Yes. Let me Newton John. She's working out physical. The drummer from Genesis had a solo career, Colin, yes, poison. Sometimes your heart breaks and or your flour and it's got a thing understand. Every rose has its yes, salt and pepper. They want you to shit. Yup. Come off feel the noise. Quiet riot. Yes. Wanted one good one. Some of those just took of like, you know, summer sticking to groove. Then burrow says Thorne. I should've went immediately to the poison song with the, yeah, flower flower. The twenty showing. Okay. Okay, really good. Good. Crowd. 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The Legend of MLB Umpire Joe West

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24:40 min | 11 months ago

The Legend of MLB Umpire Joe West

"Temp back in February you get this rare and I imagine it's almost papal audience with legendary empire Joe West at a country club in Orlando. What was your impression of Joe on that day? When I sat down with him, I was impressed with how direct he was when I asked him like. What's it like when people hate you or what about when people say you're vindictive or you're arrogant instead of being defensive he just to answer the question. Tim Kirk John is a major league baseball analyst three ESPN. He's been covering the Sports Nineteen, seventy nine. I don't think we can use this on the air, but we can cut in he I asked him if he could ride a horse. Because his nickname is cowboy Joe. West. So he said. Yeah I've been on a horse before I had a photographer taking pictures of me on the horse and the photographer said. The combat horse. Joe West. This is the mayor and the photographer I said I know look at the Combat Force? That's when Joe West? That's the Told me when I asked him if he's ever ridden a horse. Shows a self jammed from painting quality and least to me. He's got a boat find himself and you can poke fun at him. He really doesn't care that much because he knows who he is and he's not. It has been said that a good empire goes unnoticed through the course of the game. Whoever said that probably didn't think much of Joe West. West is MLB's longest tenured umpire and easily its most recognizable with the confrontational style and a knack for finding controversy. Today. ESPN's temperature. Chia gives us a rare up close portrait of a man who players and coaches love to hate. Even, as they grudgingly respective. I'm Pablo Torre. It's Wednesday September sixteenth. This Is ESPN. So, Tim, your latest story is a profile of major league umpire, Joe West to you know as well as anybody, but for people the kids perhaps out there who maybe aren't as familiar with this umpire who is Joe West and why is he somebody wanted to profile? Joe West is one of the best umpires of all time he is going to break a record for most games umpired in the history of baseball record that has stood for eighty years. He's GonNa Empire Five Thousand Two hundred, fifty nine games to break bill clams record anybody that can work into their late sixties. Column Balls Strikes deserves our admiration in a lot of what he's. He's also very. Very combative very. Confrontational. The bumgarner. He's thinking of that Bungee strike. Joe West is not going back behind the captured. He's not going to back away from confrontation. It's just not in his Baker. Sometimes people think he thinks he's bigger than the game. Hundred. We'll have worked with joe asked that's a terrible way for the ballgame. Man Actually went on. Pires more often than not going to ask for help an. Joe West has been an umpire in major league baseball for forty four years temp that since one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, six. For your story, you spun through your Rolodex of players and coaches, all these people around the game and one quote that stood out to me was from an anonymous former player who had a very visceral reaction to being asked about Joe West. What did he say? Well he laughed but he said if murder were not against the law, I will kill Joe as what he said. and. He said, you know he just comes across as so arrogant and he affects the game in the wrong way once in awhile and he's just such a loud personality. And then he ause this former player and said, and then the next day you see him, he's funny. He's charming. He's a great pyre again, and he's the kind of guy that you want to go have a beer with after the gang. That in some ways, kind of sounds up who Joe West is the job is done and you're right Pablo Nineteen, seventy six. His First Major League in Sean doolittle told me look anyone who anything thousand times deserves our respect. Let's get to what happened more recently, just ten days ago in Atlanta the braves are hosting the nationals and national GM Mike Rizzo is three levels up in his luxury box yelling at the umpires over balls and strikes. What is Joe? West do next? Well. He heard Mike Rizzo the general manager up in one of the private booths and he did not appreciate what Mike Rizzo was saying. So he and the crew got together and through might Rizzo out. Wrong While somebody's getting kicked out. Somebody's been objected either Joe West or Hunter Wendelstedt. And they've asked security to be called either in the second decker third deck. Not Be Mike Rizzo. I think it is. That's the weirdest thing I've seen in a long time. I cannot believe that happened on the surface that base absolutely no sense. I also have covered that fan this game in Baltimore Two Thousand Sixteen and trust me Pablo. You can hear every word in the stadium when. Is Empty. Again, the key here is that he felt what might result did was against the rules and Adam wainwright quoted saying joe is consistently consistent that every rule is consistently follow. That would wine he used Joe S and you can say a lot of things about him but he follows the rules and he felt like the rules were broken that day by Mike Rizzo who he could here in a private box upstairs. So that was just one of the more notable public incidents that Joe West has been a part of. What are some of the others? Well, again, forty forty years call balls and strikes really hard to do. He's been around for a huge things there on the field for Felix Hernandez perfect gain to. Talk. Big Game. He was there when Jay Howell had pine tar on his glove, throw them out of the playoff game I was at that game to go west is out there. Joe Is Jackie his. String. You believe. Joe West through Jonathan Tab Amman out of the game because Jonathan Palpable Bon grabbed his crotch after a now was that a little gesture toward the fans right there. Well, he was either adjusting himself for it was a gesture. He called to box, of Mark, Burleigh in one game. And Hawk Harrelson the very outspoken broadcast for the white SOx screams on the air. Joe West should retire and is telling You know he's. GonNa. He's becoming a joke is what he's doing. He's becoming a joke to the empire profession. So Joe West then undergoes cancer of Larynx. He comes back after missing eighteen games and he's in shower one night and Hawk Harrelson barges into the Umpire's room which is voted on every level and says, where is that son of? He goes into the shower and he screams at Joe West who is covered with. So any set look I know we fight each other of we hate each other but don't you die on me? That's what he said to Joe West and Joe said we've been best friends ever since Oh. The question always is even though the game is never too big for Joe West at K. -Sually Joe? West. Appears to be too big for the game and that's where sometimes you get in trouble. When the game does appear to get too big for Joe. West. The major gripe against them tends to come from players and coaches alike, and they say that Joe West wants to be the center of attention. Here's Ozzie Guillen and Mark Burleigh after that Balk incident in two thousand, ten people to watch players playing bars and manager I. Don't see any people say I want to see Ozzy and monitor I'll go to see go west L. Bar I think you'd like seeing his name favors be too much. And instead of wine of all. The rules, I'd like to find what he called a balk. What is Joe West have to say about that accusation. Well I asked him point blank about that. So Joe, what about the perception that you think fifty thousand people came here just to see you each said something in fact of all fifty, thousand of those people already knew who I was before the game again, that's how he answered that question. When you ask him, are you the dictum somebody shows you out and he says I'm not vindictive that that's disrespectful to the game I asked him if you're if he's arrogant and he goes the only people who think that way are the ones who are too afraid to say it to my face and those same people still want me work in the plate in game seven. As always he stands up for himself on all accusation but he never flinched I asked him point blank on all these things and instead of get angry or defensive he answered the question. All right I'm coming up let's talk about some of the more endearing stories players have about Joe West. And also what the legendary umpire plans on doing when he finally hangs up his chest protector. 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So go to shell and make the most of the stop you need to make in engines that continuously used shelby power nitro plus premium gasoline seafood and conditions at fuelrewards dot com. So Tim back in July as baseball was preparing to start this incredibly strange truncated season in the midst of the current virus pandemic. Joe. s became the center of attention off the field. What happened there? while. He basically sad that the Kovin death totals were misleading and not everyone of whatever was at the time the hundred, nine, eighty, thousand at died from Kovin, yet a friend who had stage four cancer and was going to die anyway and the person died from Kovin and they put it down to Kobe and nothing else. It was ill time. It was unnecessary in my opinion and he got reprimanded by the League office or saying something like that. Of course I call. Them. After his original comments in USA Today and he said, of course, this was taken out of context. He said I never said this wasn't important. I never said it wasn't serious and he did say that in the original story at all anybody really looked at was when he said this is an overrated at an inflated number. So backtracked on that. But as he told me look I'm a big boy people are taking shots at me all the time I can have. In your mind what does that incident? Tell us about the personality of Joe West? Tim. Well. It does show ultimately that he's going to say and do whatever he wants and if it leads to a suspension if it leads to a fine or reprimand, so be it. But should he have said those things obviously, not not with everything that we're going through but he's a man as you know, Bob Melvin, the manager of the Aids told me Look Joe is Joe you can't fight him and that's part of this. What he feels he's right. He's going to stand up and speak his mind. No matter what. Despite Joe's tendency to be that blunt for as often as he's been at the center of controversy, he does seem to have as you say, a ton of respect from players and coaches around the game. What are some of the more endearing stories about Joe West on the field? Erik Kratz catcher worked some games with Joe Behind him said look this is an over rated part of this that he he's impossible to work with. That's not the case at all Chris N. another longtime catcher told me the same thing that this thought if he's out to get, you just simply isn't the case and of course Nelson Cruz and the all-star game a few years ago he took a picture with Joe West come on. Somebody to take a picture. Crews brought up his phone and. Once picture with Joe. West Hey five thousand games. The? Game. Yawning Bellina helped taking the picture I asked Nelson Cruz about it. They said I have great respect for Joe. West, and since he's been on all these games before he's done, I just wanted to take a picture with him, and that's the first time Joe West Obi. I had no idea what to say he said that that must be at least in my mind. The First Time Joe? West is ever been speechless because a player took out a cameras that I want to take the. Selfie with you here at home plate in the middle of All Star game that one took Joe West by surprise. So. Loved Joe West or hate Joe West Tim is clearly this all time sports character but he's also sixty seven years old now and as he inches closer and closer to retirement I think it's fair to ask will baseball be better or worse off without him? It's not good when the umpire is the focal point of the gay and I'm totally against any umpire that thinks this is all about me. Clearly, it is not however when you do have an ego when you are arrogant about your job and you have supreme confidence than I know what I'm doing. That's the Guy I want working the biggest game of the year because he's not gonNA put himself into a bad situation. He's gotTa make sure a bad situation doesn't happen on his watch. So with Joe West goes people go remember him as working more games than anyone in history some people will say Britain's but again, I can't tell you how many people have told me give me him in a big game and I know the game will not get out of control. What did he tell you about his plans for leaving the game? What do you expect? He'll do when and if he does. while. He's a country Western aficionado. He's a singer. He gave me a couple of. CDs. I don't know anything about Music Pablo I. Just recently found out molly hatchet was a band not a woman. A short time in my life a very short time. I wasn't sure if Kanye West was man or woman. I'm the last guy on earth that should be rating whether Joe West in. Saint. Budgies down pretty good voice maybe grabbed me by the arm in this is what she says. If you cheat on me. You'll be out and home. And he likes to sing all sorts of places he sung at the grand old opry. Bricks told me they would go to the lodge. Kaga if you've ever been there Pablo, greatest jukebox ever and Joe West, go there and play like his own songs at the Lodge Chicago he loves this and this is what he's going to do in retirement. I got say. I did not anticipate hearing about Kanye West from you today tem. But hearing that story about Joe West playing his own music out of a jukebox. Extraordinarily Kanye West sort of. Curves what she said to me. Tim Kirk. Thank you so much for joining US strike. Okay. Well, thank Pablo I'll talk to you soon. Okay. Yes, sir. You'll be out at home. If can't play in the more on Joe West Checkout. Tim's piece on ESPN DOT COM and watched days edition of Ot L. on sports on. Because if you cheat on coming up Sports are back. Yes. But now it's time for America's real competitive national obsession to come back online. Did. 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Football two hundred, your choice do or don't name this play in which the quarterback runs the ball and can choose to pitch it to another back. Option play. Football four hundred I can tell you guys are big football fan. Tom Landry perfected the shotgun formation with this team. Wal-. Dallas cowboys I do you think we should go to commercial? And lest you think that these brilliant minds might do better with basketball. Well There's this Joel embiid in two thousand and nineteen one the trademark for this nickname his that also describes the seventy sixers strategy of improving the team Paul. What is due at one eighty? No. Margaret or Mike. WHAT IS THE PROCESS In fact, I would argue that Alex Trebek's is the Michael Jordan of television hosts and that's not just because he's the best there ever was which he is. But also because he is as merciless, a trash talker. Seen. Goal is from booey. Maryland and her favorite type of music is something I've never heard of, but it doesn't sound like fun. Fun It's called. NERD. Corps. Hip Hop. It's mirrored core hip hop people who identify as nerdy rapping about the things they love video games science fiction. Having a hard time meeting, romantic partners you know. It's really catching fun. Losers in other words. I am going to really miss the get to know you chats just like that one with Tribeca, they're right next to the contestant. Only. The latest thing stolen from us by this pandemic. But I also fully understand why they have to go. So, jeopardy. Do whatever you need to keep the goat safe and healthy. And welcome back. I'm Pablo. Torre and this has been ESPN daily. I'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Mariners Play-By-Play Announcer Dave Sims on Perfect Games and No-Hitters, Home Run Calls, Griffey

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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Mariners Play-By-Play Announcer Dave Sims on Perfect Games and No-Hitters, Home Run Calls, Griffey

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This the baseball tonight podcasts or Monday may two thousand twenty producing from his Home Studios Beautiful Home Studio which he tweeted a picture of over the weekend Taylor swing. I'm buster only hosted the baseball tonight podcast and working for my home studio just north of New York City now today as we continue with broadcaster week from last week we'll be talking with Dave Sims. The play by play man for the Seattle Mariners. It'll be asking him about his signature. Home run calls nets conversations. Were also going to have with Sarah. Lines about the best signature home run calls in baseball. I The news and notes. Some good news for Ra Major League Baseball player and Manager Art. Howe was released from a hospital in Houston on Sunday after spending time in intensive care last week with the corona virus. He told multiple media. Let's in text relief back in my own bedroom. It's sweet it was five long days or so finally feeling a little bit better still not able to eat real good taste buds or giving me a hard time. It's just nice to be back home and hopefully continue to progress. Some of the proposed protocol key player safe as published over the weekend by Jeff PASSAN ON ESPN DOT COM. As he rode Major League baseball ambitious return to play plans during the corona virus pandemic include processing upward of ten thousand cove in nineteen tests per week overhauling stadiums in in game settings to encourage social distancing and rigorous rules intended to prevent the spread of Kobe nineteen. The protocol is more than sixty pages. Long from the Associated Press League baseball players they're prorated salaries would contribute to an average loss of six hundred and forty thousand dollars for each game over eighty two game season in empty ballpark's according to a presentation from the Commissioner's Office to the Union that was obtained by the Associated Press painting a picture of eighteen ten billion dollar industries. Shuttered by the contagion. The twelve page document entitled Economics Applying Without Fans in attendance in dated May. Twelfth was an initial step in negotiations aimed at starting the delayed season around the fourth of July. I wrote a column over. The weekend was published on Sunday on. Espn DOT COM. That I feel like the unions should think big picture right now. It has leveraged right in this moment and they should wrap any agreement for two thousand twenty into a new labor deal. Of course the current deal expires in December of two thousand twenty one and that New Labour Day would address player concerns about Free Agency Service Time Service time manipulation and tanking now Will be talking about that later in the week today as they say a lot of talk about broadcaster home run calls before we get to Dave Sims into Sarah. Today on ESPN daily Michael Jordan's relentless drive and work ethic are constant themes in the last dance right Thompson looks for the roots of that greatness in Jordan's family history in his upbringing that's ESPN daily. Subscribe wherever you get your podcast numbers. Game Lang reporter and a producer for MLB DOT com of how you doing. I'm doing you know and just we had some nice weather this weekend. You know that's something you know. We take what we can get these days right. Yeah it's absolutely beautiful up here. In the northeast it's supposed to be for the next few days So over the weekend Japan reported the exhausted protocol. Sixty seven pages that came from Major League Baseball sent to the Players Association. And I'm sure that for some players reading that it'll be somewhat daunting but my first thought when I read it. Was You know what to this point? A lot of the people who are involved in generating this or the doctors and the lawyers in everyone's GonNa feel like they need check every box and do their job. What do you think I just think? They're so many so many considerations and I think we see that from what we've heard and seen about different states trying to open up and everything else and obviously for a a world like Major League Baseball Micro Environment. Whatever it is they do have to consider everything. And I definitely think that's why you get lists that are exhausted like that. All right coming up. We're going to be talking with Dave Sims the play by play man for the Seattle Mariners. And I'M GONNA be asking him about his signature home run calls in other words the homerun calls it. He'll use repeatedly not like the the one that Joe Buck Jackpot cad when he called Kirk Gibson's home run in the nineteen hundred eight world series. Where he says. I cannot believe what I just saw. this is these are the calls that broadcasters make on a regular basis on home runs and I sent an email on Sunday evening about this and it got me. Going and thinking about you know the different homerun calls. They were here. And there's so many great ones and must be like John. Sterling needs to have a category. Holtom sell those individualized home run calls that he made Here's Dave Niehaus. The late mariners broadcaster with how he called Grand Slams. Give a lesson and now the right hander said. Here's to pitch to Edgar Swung on this year. Anthony the Yankees. Here's Hawk Harrelson's Homerun call volume high and even less than feel strikes stinks back he jumps. You can put it. Oh here's our friend Wayne Kuyper and I love the power in his home. Run Call and Sarah I know. You'll like Gary Cohen. Some run call on the midst broadcast What are some of those home? Run CALLS AT JUMP TO MIND for you. Yes the first one I thought was doing kuypers. And maybe it's because I was catching up on the PODCASTS. This weekend so I was just hearing his voice he was talking to you and todd. But that's the one that likes sticks out to me the most for whatever reason. Maybe it's almost that I've heard Gary Cohen so many times that I'm so used to but that he hits it high it's a deep it out of here and what you're saying about that power. I mean I I think of that all the time some other ones other than those ones. We just listened to another one that came to mind to me Pretty quickly was and I got to hear it live. I will say that but I know it and I looked it up and I've listened to it so many times is Jack. Brickhouse for the cubs. Because you've got the hey. Hey on the owls there. And that's how I learned about. It was the first time I went to Wrigley Field and I saw that and I was like why I need to look up why it says that on the foul call so I love that one go absolutely when I was a kid The the Monday night baseball games were called by the PIRATES ANNOUNCER. Bob Prince so I'm eleven twelve years old and I am pitching whippable to myself because we lived in the middle of nowhere in Vermont and there were no their kids around so I pitched myself with a ball and I tried to hit this. Hit whipple's over chicken wire when I could I would get home. Run calls a Bob Prints. Did I'm not going to try to replicate but along the lines of you can kiss that one goodbye and all my God. My older sister she actually caught me on an audiotape. Doing that and I paid so much money for her not to release it to the rest of my family. My older sister is evil with that. You know having that home. Run call in her back pocket. I I've been trying to figure out whether or not we should rank these Sarah. Maybe I can double back with you and ask you for your top five next Monday or something like that but on the other hand it's almost like trying to compare Michael Jordan. Lebron like it almost diminishes both of them to have that conversation. Yeah honestly going through them you know last night and this morning trying to figure out some other ones to talk about their also great you know and fans are always saying Oh. I don't like this one. I don't like that one and that's usually coming from. Oh that's my team's rival. I don't WanNa hear that one right. I WanNa see that highlight but I just feel like there are so many and that's local broadcast. Another one that came to mind for me was our friend. Matty Vima scourging with the Santa Maria you know which he does on Sunday baseball. And there's one specific homerun. I'm sure you remember it from last year. It was you guys were in Colorado in early April. And Cody bellinger. Hit this monster shot and we were just starting to see what kind of season cody bellinger was going to have you at this big home. Run to right field and I just started laughing as Mattie was saying it and like. That's my signature Santamaria from him so I was thinking of that one too. You know what I'm going to have to get him on the podcast with you next Monday. And I'll make him pick the top five like his favorite is his favorite tough five. You're right about fans and how some of them turn them off Like Hawk Harrelson. I love his home run call. I've always loved that. You know you put it on the board and you'll hear you'll hear players When we're in clubhouses in the early afternoon and there's the white sox game on or has been on and he makes that call the players will give the Hawk Harrelson call. I think they appreciate that but you know thank you for your inspiration Matt Gershon. He'll be on the clock next Monday. If I can wrangle them into joining US I love it. I love it. This is so much fun. You now it's just like a whole other side of the game. I think we could do an hour. Long podcast on this. We won't we won't do that to people but there's just so many and it's just so much fun to listen to them. You know. I love the audio part of the game. No doubt about it all right Sarah. Thanks for doing this awesome. Thank you so much about. There is the play by play man on Seattle Mariners Games for root sports northwest. Dave has a lot of stories and I can't wait to hear him. Thanks for helping to distract us. Thank you I tell you what the phillies mutual. Let me tell you. My Cell palliative manage Void unbelievable. What can I and we have we have to entertain ourselves. It's got to that point so when I asked you ahead of time. Send me a list of different things that you want to talk to and number one on your list was what number one on my list. Which is the no hitters that you called in and before we get into that as a broadcaster. I'm curious about your philosophy because I get so much pushback when I'm watching a game and a pitcher has a no hitter in progress in all tweet out. Hey Felix's in the seventh inning. He's got a no hitter. So many fans get upset about that. How did your philosophy on that develop? My philosophy is an old newspaper Guy and listening to the grates and studying the greats and having Marty Brennaman. It'll be we. We did to file four a couple of three years and I was talking and talking to him as twenty something years ago. He's a David Call. Which is c. And I'd never really was a big you know. I never really paid that much attention to that. Jim I mean. That's what they have down in the clubhouse. I got into an argument with the Great Ozzie. Smith about that said I. I'm broad casting broad casting call Lodhi daddy and everybody to the potty because Felix says no no in the six to macarbre came up to me one time in Chicago is a here you talk about the no no hitters and perfect those while they're going on I said Yeah what about it. I get my back up getting ready to thinking. We're GONNA have this big argument. He put his arm around his God. Love you pal. I love it thank you. I'm glad you do that. And he told me start about coming home after a game turned on a TV guys throwing a no. No the announcer never says it and then they get to the ninth inning and Tim at this point. It's been putting around his house. Said if I'd known it was a no no added sat and watched the entire game and not just had it on sort of an ambient noise. Why and I call it. A Lotta Greece in Seattle for that thousand twelve. I got the number perfecto. Did a game on Fox we got the Felix Perfecto In August of that year August Fifteenth. Twenty twelve was June. Six A sixth pitcher no no mariners. No My. You're watching a game. I'm doing what's happening. It's a perfect game. No hitters soapy. Who were you talked about some of the pushback that you've got Of course you have fans who are passionate and I see them all the time and social media hammer me when I'll tweet out someone's got a no hitter Did you ever get push back from a player? Somebody on the team now not the only pushback seriously. The only push back. I got from Ozzie. Smith at Attari at one time and I asked him about that and he he he got the you know the red. You know what you're talking about. I said you have US come on man. There's nothing to do with you guys. I got an audience. I'm trying to entertain and inform and trying to grow that audience at the same time. If you if that's superstition you have got blessed but it has nothing to do with me said this. It's not like when I was with Grading System Francis Patricia class on trying to keep cheating off. I'm trying to let everybody know what the Hell's going on what's it like being in that seat Calling a perfect game I tell you what that surge of energy and like Oh my God. Let's not screw this up. Let's get our facts. How many knows have there been. When was the last one? How many have been in both leagues? Call the game. I remember Eric Karros at the game with them on on that Fox game and he was great and they feel game. was different because it was our guy in our ballpark on getaway. Wednesday spectacular afternoon. Twenty thousand I eight nine or was it. Twenty one thousand eight nine nine on hand and because it was Felix because at that point he had had so many brilliant outings in the course of his career and had got legendary. No run support. Non Support was unbelievable game. He wins on Wednesday game. One nothing against Tampa Bay so it wants to super exciting and again you know. The marriage haven't been playoffs and so once so anything like that is just going to take on just the you know mega intensity and my adrenaline matter of fact after the game One out after all the post game stuff that a bunch of interviews and went to dinner with my wife and some friends and white clayborn who does Cardinal Baseball doesn't pre and post on radio. Hey said how you doing. I said I'm trying to come down from this he says. Don't you ever come down from a perfect game? I gotTa Syria. I WanNa see if you agree with me or tell me if you think of. Full of crap I feel like the conditions for no hitters are absolutely acute in Seattle. Like no other ballpark in America. First of all you know historically You know they. They've changed the fences but generally speaking it's been known as a pitcher's Park It's the the park that's the furthest from the every other park in baseball players. Have to travel. And you've got a typically correct me if I'm wrong a lot of times the afternoon Games you get the twelve thirty five start and you know just knowing players rolling in there. The Seattle's a great town to go out in and those are the conditions for which you might get no hitters in an afternoon game. Yeah absolutely in both of them. The number game was a Saturday afternoon. One one ten start Pacific and it was a one one one ten start Felix game on a Wednesday afternoon. I think all those factors I think are in play. I mean you know we. We have one win. Been pleasant one but I tell you what I haven't met anybody. Major League Baseball at the thought absolutely adore into Seattle and particularly Spring and summer where he is almost non factor and it's bright sunshine. And you know two days. It doesn't get darker like nine fifty the peaches summer. So it's a it's a wonderful place. Great eating out Foodie It's a great place to be at the water. You got the mountains. You got everything all right. What was it like when junior came back in two thousand nine? He got to meet him. Yeah you know. Obviously I knew junior a baseball fan and covering baseball for an ESPN NINETY. Three ninety four and economic four. So I didn't really know him and I just remember I type Met Him once with the white sox couple years before that and then so now he comes to us and I went in and introduced myself. So I'm and I tell you what I thought I could talk. We talked about so many things you talked about his family. I got after like we had a conversation at his at his walk. I think it was after workouts. Like an hour and Change. It was amazing and just Just a wonderful open for me that that I know I mean. He's a people person He loves the talk and and he loves his family and he and another time I went to put his home In my son we're doing some business. Brio mad our place from golfing. He's got every you know he's. His home is magnificent and he around. He's got he's got closets bigger than my first couple of apartments here in New York. So I mean it's He's become a friend and and you know when I had I went to my press thing. He he called his old man over to me. And you're GonNa be alright me through the process and everything so the Griffey's Griffey's a big of my book. I really so I tell people all the time you do too. I'm sure you know what's this person like. What's this person like? And they asked me about Ken Griffey Junior. And my answer. Always is you know what my personal experience wasn't great where you walk in his visiting a reporter that he doesn't know actually with the reds when this happened any remember him sort of corrupting humping at me a little bit and then him waiting because he's you know basically. I was standing over waiting for him to talk. I'm watching him interact with the clubhouse kids and they love him and athletic trainer and they love him and so the way that I came away and you know better than I do. The way it came away. Was you know what he he? He's lived in this fishbowl of attention so knuckleheads like me. You know he doesn't need folks like me But I so I can understand why he kinda keep me at arm's length but I tell friends all the time I guarantee you that if you're you his next door neighbor you would love him. 'cause you could see how is relationship was with people in the clubhouse. Yeah he's the he's the Best I've ever seen it. I've been lucky to cover a lot of sports. And he takes care of those guys at and he does a lot of stuff he doesn't WanNa be doesn't WanNa show he told me chapter and verse. About yeah. I was born with a lot of talent but I work my butt off and I was up in my batting cage at one o'clock in the morning and nobody saw me. And he he's he's grumbles the that'd take a lot of batting practice. Yelich four o'clock five o'clock he'd already done at one two o'clock. Am Come on and then there were many times. I'm totally in his first run through Seattle. That he was big with the children. You know make a wish. And all those kinds of groups and befriending kids and making you know just making them feel at ease and and walking welcoming them into the clubhouse and giving them everything and eat some now. He's he's fabulous in every there's no question all right. What was it like to to watch Felix Hernandez do work there artiste? I mean I grew up in the sixties. So you know I'm a Colfax Shell Gibson Guy This guy did a little bit different The change up The breaking ball is just ridiculous and then when when I got there no seven I mean he could hump it up. He was consistently ninety five. Plus and again you know I. I don't have this totals in front of me. But I can guarantee he should have at least eighty more wins on his window because there have been so he went one year where I think he broke our seaver record or something most games seven innings plus one run three hits and half and most of those games were no decisions though. Decisions or heartbreaking losses. He leaves the game with a lead. And somebody gives up to bomb to win at eighth and ninth inning mean so much heartbreak in his easy to root for and during that time when he had not support would he's pitched better to gave up to pit two hits and struck out nine. One what are you talking about? But he said I just got to do a better job. And he firmly firmly believe that best thing for him is the pitch at his optimum and be a great teammate. And I don't think in terms of being a team I never heard that word about Felix during my time with temps would've been like seven through this past year. Yeah you know what was really cool. was that After he signed that big contract he he lived in Seattle during the offseason. Remember hearing that from folks on the organization how unusual that was and again. It reminded me that what I was saying about. A junior and the reaction to the clubhouse guys never forget when Felix sign that long-term deal When he was getting are getting off an elevator yet the ball and they're all employees are waiting for them and they gave them a big cheer and he he began to cry. Yeah he did and I. I remember you know live here. I live here in New York so I saw that when they posted it online and I thought it was one of the neatest things I've ever seen in sports. You know. They put out online in a hole in all of SAFECO field to mobile fly. Everybody down to the basement going Felix comes out to the news kind of pretend you know everybody in the building. Was there a couple of three hundred people? And he. He shed tears man. It was It was emotional and it was really it just shows you how much he meant to. Seattle the other thing of. Course when they started the king's Court and when he was dealing man and he would have. They'd have those Blue and gold placards and people would come in and they charge a reasonable fee. You go and sit in the left field corner near the foul pole and where these gold t shirts. I'll never forget that before. They formalized that there would be a group of people down there and phillies would be. You know he'd be a six or seven bending and you'd have five or six strikeouts and I elvis. I this chant I'm going there saying KKK. And I said wait a minute I just said. Kkk On them on actually broadcast on Cape Ripa. Strikeout people write anything misconstrued here. You know what I'm talking about. Who is your big influences? And broadcaster got a lot Bill Campbell for one did the Phillies sixers enables in Philly. When I was growing up in the fifties and sixties and then the first guy I black man I ever saw do play by Do Sports. Anchoring and then play by play was bill. White dove courses a great first baseman giants Cardinals Phillies came to National League. President longtime announcer Prior to that longtime announcer with the Yankees and I remember when he was naturally president. I remember we got put together and we were going to have a meeting. He was GONNA try to get my name out into into the Into Biz. Try to get me a job. This is what before I got the job at the mariners but I I talked to him a couple times a year and I said bill you probably. You probably have no idea. This is going on but I pay tribute to you several times a week and say like Nelly Cruise when cruises with us the left that both God and my deep is the call he put on the Bucky Dent home. Run the playoff game. It's seventy eight grandkids. Not GonNa get it. That's a home run for Bucky Dent. The the yesterday's will not get three run home run for ten the Yankees Advice. Four three two two ten is Ted is full of the era of the scree. Looking at Yankee bed led by Bob Cliff Johnson and a happy plucky dead Yankees. Read it too and I just like the way Bill. Bill is always a classy guy. And he's having played the game. He was able to disseminate information. And he had a blast with Phil Rizzuto and I thought there comradery was outstanding and it was a great list. Oh absolute- well and they needed someone like bill right with his steadiness of his personality allies. Scooter was yeah absolutely. I mean and Philo due to last couple as well I went down and I was talking to some huckleberry. Data's going GONNA read us. Still been and Easier so hey wait. What did he do last time up because all I have is a ww? My scorebook wasn't watching paid back. I am I of Thunder Phil would already be on the bridge heading home the jurors. Oh yeah yeah that famously When you told him that you use that borrowed that line from him on home runs every week What was his response? Why eight thirty is really. I know it impact the Yankees that day when then hit that home run? It just hit you know. He's living here in New York. You're going to hear that. You hear that clip a million times so it always. It's just it's simple to the point and and it and it said the whole story and that's exactly what happened and Having worked at you know having worked at the Daily News here in New York at tabloid stories. Don't have to be good so you know. Get to the point. Cut to the chase you know. I always love hearing the back stories of how Play by play guys. Come up with their home run calls. You got a couple of ask about boom stick baby Nelson Cruz A derivation of Bob. Leonard Bob Slick. Leonard with Indiana Pacers. When Reggie Miller hit a three point shot Mark Boyle I mean the play by play Guy Reggie in a corner and then you just hear phone baby so Nellie his handle was boom stick so I put two and two together S. my son. They they should go for it and snowy. Go for it and I'll never forget coming into the clubhouse one day and he said what's that phone and it was about six months somebody matched up for and all they here with. Oh baby state baby Nelson so I. I really miss him as a person and I miss having him on the bulk of because I get the call a lot of monsters home runs. Oh and he has a reputation being the teammate Super Pas. Oh my God I've been around hundreds of guys in all the sports I've covered he's He's probably a top three or did he. Up Giddy up. Gone watched a lot on Westerns as a kid You name Western. That was on in the fifties and sixties my favorites alone lone ranger and cowboys. They don't get it up. Get up so you know and then also influence a little bit by you because you've always go to or so. It's SORTA did my personality so I wanted to tell you this story about Kyle. Seager your third Baseman In this was the craziest things that I've ever had happened to me on a baseball field. Who's actually before a game that was played by the cardinals? Dodgers Cory Seager was in the lineup of the dodgers that day. And you've got that group of fans behind home plate. Working batting practice is standing. There guy calls me over. Hey Buster come over here. Hey Hey you know you related to the SEGER brothers. And I'm like looking at him going. What are you talking about like and he goes now? Yeah you guys have like the same great grandparents or something like that any in any starts to re relate all this information yeah upstate New York this person and this person. I thought that's crazy. Now you know Corey's personality he's not a Talker Cairo talker than Corey. So then coincidentally the next weekend we had the mariners in Wrigley Field. And I walked up to owners like Hey Jabber hear anything in your family. That we're related was. Yeah my dad used to tell me that when I was twelve. Thirteen years old. I was watching you on television so yeah so I I guess now. I haven't actually gone back and sat down with Kyle and found the where the family tree splits. But that's a fun conversation for a short guy from Vermont till he got is his name. Jeff Say Jesse. Judy I think they live in North Carolina but yet he's from upstate. New York The old man and I believe Kyle grew up in or near capitalist North Carolina where the King Richard Petty's from. So what? Why never make sure that EARNHARDT EARNHARDT One? I think it's earnhardt Annapolis. But anyway that that's where he lives. Not I I have a good time with Kyle. 'cause he's a Carolina Guy and I do coach Mike. She Skis Radio. Show that we're always busted horns on when place Carolina in college hoops. All right so I wanna ask you last at. This is great story. From a couple years ago They have when the mariners actually a great story. It was involved a fight but it was the craziest thing I ever heard it. I wanted to get your back story on it Involving Dee Gordon and I think jeans girl was also involved reading stories. If you could tell that story case when I read it a more classic Dee Gordon. Right there well I I remember. It was played Centerfield. Short pop up me probably more short-to-medium. Centerfield D. was planned Kinda date. Gene had a better angle on it. Generally that's all and I think what happened was gene took a couple of steps and sit and shut it down and and May d get a late start. Come in got his glove on it. Dropped it and that had probably been maybe three four or five times. That happened to play cloudy and Centerfield and evidently they had some words. I'll never forget. We're down there for the C- Senior skip and you know milling around the clubhouse. Hey what's going on? How you doing Glen and comes a student. Sarah can we be the clubhouse from on I think we can be? What do I walk out a bunch of walk out that door and the door closes and then I told you do. The door opened nothing. It looked like it. Looks like Mel Brooks's blazing saddles. That was a bunch a bunch of guys on top of each other trying to put one guy up another d was going after after Sikora. It ended right there but it was. It was so explosive and so fast that what's up every day. That close in that personal I I was GonNa say I thought I when I saw d the next time that is classic Dee Gordon. Right there where he politely asked people to leave the clubhouse so he can brawl. Yeah I mean I'm telling you it was so getting here on my wife. Always have them call you dave and he he won't call me by my first name. We always got Sir. We have the clubhouse for second like an Ma fight just broke out. It was amazing. And I gotTa have you 'cause you said this on the list and I love to hear backstories for for from folks about who. Their team was Who their favorite player was on. Your list was the heartbreak of the phillies nineteen sixty four collapse. What you're the you know. Shula short and bonding. I remember Interviewing Art Mahaffey when I was on New York Radio and at ninety one and I asked the question. Art was still field. I said I can understand your pain so I was like well held with ten or eleven. I'd had my money saved up for world series and Kinda play the Yankees. It's all excited. Chico Ruiz got it started stealing home with Frank. Robinson all of all people at the plate and Flash four years lead in Baltimore. And I see Hank Allen who's he's a scout and he played volley quite. It's great stories but clamper Ted Williams and I said you brothers. One of my favorite players win over fifteen is high school senior and Catcher said I had my money saved up for world series tickets. He said money saved up and he says hold on a second stand up pulls out. His Wallet is tickets. Nineteen sixty four about that Wow he had been hung onto. He's hanging onto that. Yup Yup and anybody from the Greater Philadelphia area of that generation was a sports fan can remember it like it was yesterday because you know the Wiz had the run and fifty. They let them get old together. Team went in the toilet. Dick Gallon comes up cookie role. Is John Kelsen bumming short? Hell held a team and they blew it and they would have played the Yankees and I grew up Fifteen minute walk from county mack. Stadium Wile I yeah you had your heart ripped out by that team when I was thirteen years. Old was a huge dodgers fan. And Reggie Jackson hit three homers to beat them the dodgers in game six and I was weeping as a as a teenager and many years later. I'm covering the Yankees New York Times and I and talking to Reggie Jackson for the first time my life and there's this little voice in the back of her head going. Oh my God I used to hate you. Oh my God yeah and that. Probably you know any of us who've been lifelong you know. Sports fans jocks and as a kid. Yeah hate so and so and then you and I've been lucky enough to meet a lot of these guys and I know exactly what you're talking about that little birdy on your shoulder this sucker member but now you're famously get along with them and a professional relationship. It's cool. I love talking to Reggie. He's great I absolutely right Dave. Thanks for the time on this. Thanks for distracting is loved you stories at. Thank you buster. All Beth looked at the art MANTECA. Here's Tim Coaches Daily Baseball. Fix about the Great Brooks Robinson. Hi this is Tim. Kirch in and on this date in one thousand nine hundred thirty seven Brooks Robinson was born. I think he's the greatest defensive third baseman. All Time. You wanted sixteen gold gloves most ever by a position player and he was especially good in the one thousand nine hundred. Seventy world series against the reds. You've made at least a half. A dozen spectacular plays Robinson at two thousand eight hundred. Forty eight hits. He won the MVP in one thousand nine hundred sixty four and he holds the record for most games ten in which he drove in the only run in a one to nothing victory and Brooks Robinson is to me then nicest superstar player I have ever met. He is a loved at Baltimore. He's beloved everywhere and in retirement gala for Him Gordon. Beer sports writer said in New York. They named a candy bar after Reggie Jackson here in vaulted name. Our children have rose rise bleacher tweets. All righty buster bleacher tweets for Mundy Andrew. Campbell at real camp drew writes in with the last documentary coming to an end. What COMES TO MIND? I one thinking of the most dominant dynasty or generational player of any era in baseball is an old yankees team. Cincinnati's big red machine or something like babe ruth or Hank Aaron. It was Babe Ruth Babe Ruth without it. He lorded over the sport. You know he completely all the sport. There's that great stat from nineteen twenty seven. When he set the record with sixty home runs in a season that he out homered every other team and the sport itself change to adapt to what Babe Ruth was doing hitting home runs and it went away from the ty Cobb style of running and bunting and slashing and It scoring that way to go on for the long ball. Babe Ruth completely changed his sport in a way that I don't think anybody has any sport may be safer Wayne Gretzky. Justin may just in my apologies on that one. Jj Mai Mai Mai to rates in. Do you think Major League Baseball will ever retire? Roberto Clementes number league-wide similar to what they did with Jackie Robinson. I hope so. Because of the great player that he was and the legacy that he carries and I thought. Oh you know Justin when I saw your question. I thought you know what a good time to do. That would be in two thousand and twenty two Because in September. Two thousand twenty two. That'll be the fifty year anniversary last. Game Roberto Clementi played and of course the lasted got was number three thousand in his career off John Matt lack. That would be a really good time to do that. I believed for a number of years. They should retire it. Baseball is not done it. That would be a good time to do it last one up for today not really question more of an acknowledgement here Austin. Jay Smith rates in at bear boot prod. I listened to baseball night every day. But finally a little bummed out to the Greenberg episode the Intrinsic American Sport of Bull. Riding has been in competition. Since mid April Austin filed several tweets asking for you know a little bit recognition on bull riding which I guess has been around for a while so in a weekend where we had some live sports to watch. Don't forget about bull riding everyone police. And by the way in the last four days on my family farm back in Vermont Cows released into the pasture and I grew up with cows. So I it Austin I agree with you. I've no Mike Greenberg for a long time. I promise you bull riding is not on his radar. I don't think he was taking shots at it. Either to be I would tell you that greeny would be the first one to tell you. That bull riding was not honors radar so I apologize and be happy. Greenie that We weren't thinking about it. The other day that's it for Bleacher tweets. Hashtag bleacher tweets on twitter. Thanks everyone that's it for today. Thanks TO DAVE. Two SERTA Taylor. Thanks for listening. Everybody have a great day and stay safe. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash pod center. Baseball tonight the PODCAST.

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"White Sox bring back Tony LaRussa" with Ryan Theriot - Episode 034

The Sportscaster and Her Son

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"White Sox bring back Tony LaRussa" with Ryan Theriot - Episode 034

"The sports caster and her son is brought to you by foot first. Podiatrist painful bunions. That it's time to get your bunion fixed with foot first. Podiatrist exclusive sklar on your neck. No scars no cast no crutches. no kidding for more information about the sklar on your neck to me visit foot. I dot com and by elektra flex a global leader in electrical conduit for over sixty years makers of liquid tight flexible conduit electrically connecting our world. Hello everybody welcome to the sports caster and her son were sports. Bridges the gap between the generations. I'm your host. Peggy kaczynski twelve time. Emmy award winning sports caster at nbc chicago. For seventeen years. I am the baby. Boomer i'm jason crane refreshing. Ut austin generation nine editor joke ruin and you're you're doing okay. Jason you sound a little under the weather how you feeling really thick now. I'm going to be completely i. I have felt the second awhile Fingers crossed it's not co- bit i'm gonna go get tested once for this and You know hopefully all's well some coming home and a half weeks so i guess if there's one silver lining of this that and getting sick before i come home so then i'll be able to get the full home experience on back all but Kinda sucks right now especially with the great weather last football game. This weekend it's really inconvenient time dissect but i was at the focus on my health above have times. Okay buddy. I feel bad for you all right. Let's let's talk about this episode. Your white sox hired tony larussa. After firing manager of the year candidate. Ricky run to who took the outsiders to the postseason for the first time in twelve years. They hire a septuagenarian hall of fame. Coach tony larussa. Clearly jerry reinsdorf decision. Everyone knows the story that he never got over the fact that he let hawk harrelson fire. Larussa thirty four years ago. When hawk was the general manager and now late in life. He's making amends. Jason mo- sox fans hate this. Move if you were to believe talkradio here in chicago. How do you feel This so this is one of the things. Obviously i q things about the white sox before they get out. Here was the things that might happen. People were talking about the field. Talk about and when i heard the first time in my twitter like there's no way how they're going to do this because the back was against the organizational direction of the young team with players that are under control for the next five sixty. You would like a manager was used to working with that. Aj hinch and and manager who is able to cater to a young clubhouse a clubhouse that obviously has a lot of fun. let's celebrations in the handshake. I mean clubhouses very diverse of one of the most diverse clubhouses in baseball. And they hire seventy six year old manager who has left baseball before defensive shares manager challenging and statcast than in the game. So it's gonna be really interesting honestly. I've been telling all my friends and everybody i've talked to. They win the world series next year. The move will always because for me. Because all i ever wanted is to see what sock world series but if we are two years on the line and the white sox of not wanting wealth two years at the very least made it to the world. Series is one of the worst in sports history. The white sox had the opportunity to the top five managers in sport and age agent. Alex cora and then an interview either of them which is an absolute disaster in its own right but rousseau there's no doubting that he's the greatest man history of the sport that i believe the game has tapped them up. I don't know he's going to be able to adjust to the game. Like i said he was not thankful the last time when the manager challenges in fact he. He's been retired for three years before the manager challenged within the play. Or you're going to be and feel the series he's going to be able to just three better minimum our guys giulino or dallas parkway going to be left in the game for too long i. I'm really concerned. I'm intrigued and i'm really hoping that. End up being the best move. But i can't help selfish on jerry reinsdorf part but you know what's crazy though is that he's supposed to be the anti analytics higher. Get when tony. Larussa came into the game as a manager. He was considered the nouveau manager. Because he was a lawyer he had a law degree and he was outsmarting everybody else and people thought. Oh gosh this is new school baseball. It's never going to work so if he was able to change it back then. What's not to say that he can't adapt now. He's a smart guy. Well he's the only time. Baseball fact white sox test stuff in to stanford grads and as ancient sam fold so clearly. There are other smart guys out there. I suppose the cards of the ability to it for a second time to a changing game at the age of seventy six is something that i really really worry about i again. It goes back to shifting. Goes back to do. Pick changes pinch hitting tampa bay. Rays came to game short of winning a world series. And they did that through. Platooning airings teams for the most part using openers have their playoff games and fifty percent playing the match. Yes it ended up coming back to bite you having cash in the the cold lake now and in the fifth or sixth innings saying. But that's just a small small sample size especially for ran. The table was topsy. The american league made it all the way to the world series and put up a fight against an incredibly good dodgers san so again you need to have analytics baseball. And what. I've been telling people what are the most the higher rehires around him. It's not going to be as much about hamilton about the bench coach in the pitching coach. Now i just hope that they can make the right decision with those two because truth be told. The bench coach is likely going to be the max manager and if they get somebody good like joe's fodder from the astros or a heard dickers- he's named thrown out there a million and a half times Even to sign yada your bellina the backup catcher. The theory wonder yati couldn't breathe it into being a future manager because of his leadership and game calling skill so it's gonna be more about. Who hires around him. Obviously the micro. The microscope will be very much under this year. it makes me laugh a little bit to the white sox had has this in their hands. Ej answer could have fired him world series winning manager when the no successful managers. Recent memory say what you will about cheating. But i think that a lot of people would rather have a proven cheater than seventy six year old at this house while you're gonna see lot of them now that he's in the division and that could really really come back to the white sox rhythm stars is absolutely you know who else is in the division the one of the youngest managers in baseball rocco baldelli from the twins If former larussa understudying. Mike machine and terry francona include went. Who he could be seen the end of his managerial career. And then the indians are going to hire young. They can hire sandy alomar junior. Who was brought up to the white sox role in. There's so many storylines especially in the al central next year. And i really hope to. God the ricky renner retired somewhere else because that truly is one of the most depressing sad baseball stories ever especially for white sox end up winning the world series in the next two years. But you know. I do agree that they needed to change. And it's gonna be so interesting seeing how larussa manages guys like Tim anderson and louise robert and jimmy court going to be allowed to to pull up his sleeves and show off his by us. When he's pitching probably not is anderson going to be able to bat with a homer in the third inning of the game in april. probably not. it's it's going to be so so so interesting. I just hope that it doesn't suck all the fun out of his team because they really truly have an exciting roster and it's only going to go three agency. Well i listen. I think that larussa smart enough to understand all of that. And he's he's not dumb enough to try to just impose old school ways on a team like that and suck the life out of them aggie and even said this week that once. Jerry reinsdorf told ozzy that he would not be the manager as was pretty upset about it but when he was told that it was going to be. Tony larussa is. He said it's the greatest move they could make. So why don't we jason. Let's bring in. Let's bring in someone else. Who has played for tony larussa. Maybe he can put your concerns at ease. How about somebody ryan -tario should we give them a call. I jason. so you're upset about the larussa higher. Because you're such a big white sox fan. I want to bring in someone. I'm not sure if he can actually give us make us feel a little better about it but he did play for tony larussa two time world series champ former cardinal and former cub now host of the riott podcast on one. Oh four or five. Espn baton rouge ryan. -tario is joining us. Hi ryan alario. Great peggy our you. We are doing okay. But i gotta talk jason off the ledge here because he really wanted. Aj hinch in chicago on the south side and instead it looks like jerry reinsdorf got his way and is kind of you know making things better at thirty four years ago when larussa was fired by the white sox played for tony larussa. So first of all. Were you shocked when you heard that. The white sox hired him and brought him out of retirement to manage again. I look i wouldn't say shocked was a little surprise. You know when when the Brought back last year houston kinda bianca. I thought i had say. And he's probably gonna come on and manage again talking to rival those guys had and you know let's stuff with No i mean. I don't think shocked the word surprise. Probably a little bit like you said that. There's some very qualified managers that are out there still but i think doing very job You know we you. You played for him right before he retired winning. Winning the title in saint louis. You were brought. I believe they traded for you right that season. I signed a finding a free agent. Okay so you signed as a free agent so take us back to twenty larussa. At time was sixty in his mid sixties late sixties. What was he like to play for. you know what what should we expect. Well you know. I was very blessed to play hall of fame. Caliber managers You know l. la and baker. Joe torry Tony bruce bochy. You know so. It was really awesome to me to be around. These base. Bikes and leaders Tony of all of those guys are prepared By far meaning nothing taught him off guard. He had sticky stotts and information for everything that was going on the of today's game We will not be too much for him. he's probably actually gonna love it. you know. And and And the great communicate. You know a guy that can get that can communicate with all different types of baseball player that you had no clubhouse. Major league can be extremely diverse Guys from all over. America different backgrounds. But with all the major sports you know probably soccer is similar but you have players different areas of the world and bomb different cultures and tony was just the master force communicating with all these players. Play hard for jason. Good thing that the thing that i've been seeing on twitter and honestly little bit and mentally stay with myself that i think people are getting the most caught up in the age. Seventy six years old is not young. No matter how good you look no matter how good you sound. Do you think that the age is really gonna matter because people are worried. So much about their god. It's gonna peak when he's eighty and we needed demand for the next decades. You think age is really gonna matter. What the objective is a racist to win the world series. That's a great question. i mean what. What is the manager. really do in any way. It's a great question to ask now more than ever when we see a move like kevin cash smell. And it's been rumored you know that came from cop and everybody says the general managers another shippers actually making out the lineup smile and and he manages just million in your head. You've seen managerial salaries. Go down because of that. They've added back in analytic support You know zoom meetings with harvard grads get never played baseball before telling you know major grand jury who should probably in what condition in a game has shifted and changed quite a bit. I don't think tony's age has anything to do with you know now. He's even in good health. I know that You know he's got a ton of energy But i i don't see that being a problem it would be a problem if he says. Hey guys i'm gonna manage for a couple of years and then i'm out you know. Then you gotta wonder free agents are gonna wanna come in and play. If they don't know what type of stability gonna be a banjo standpoint. But i see in taking the job. Jason and last he's got five six seven years in and you know to give to organization a couple named i've seen brought up your your and chris carpenter was mentioned as a potential to be the new pitching coach. And on your molina. Who's created this year twitter. This week the his name was mentioned as potentially being brought into the white sox backup catcher so can be on either of the two former teammates. The impacts and House like their abilities would help the white sox if they were coming out the organization next year we'll start ever see out again back up so You know we're talking about the greatest catch and every year on you know. I don't care what you say guys. Expensively impacted the game in an era where great athletes. I mean the the peak of the athlete in baseball and yanni was shut down the offensive game. Changer thought himself to be a a really good hitter. You know so. I don't see now if you could get chris carpenter to manage to coach and that'd be a great get car has some really interesting traits. We saw what he did on the field. You know i'm saying. Saudi did eleven in the world series. Great career prior to that but just a leader in every sense of the word players gravitated toward him when he spoke people listening. You know he's kinda got that commanding personality. You mentioned the game changing and get a little bit younger and and a little bit more. Flashy you know it. It's tony gonna have the ability to change. You know if you bring in. Chris rock and they're going to have the ability to change. Because it's not what it was five ten fifteen twenty years ago you know as far as the players expressing themselves differently and and the unwritten rules are starting erase as we've all seen so i think there's gonna be some give and take on both sides. Motorist this marriage to work. But i do think it's environmental higher anytime you can bring on and tony larussa. I think i think he gotta do. Y'all honestly i'm still just before and a few interviews talking about this. He's the greatest baseball mind. I've ever been around and i mentioned some pretty good ones and it's taking nothing away from the guys. I played for because they're all phenomenal managers but he just was excellent in a lot a lot of areas. That's really interesting. One of the things. You brought up ryan jason. I were just talking about and the whole thing about you. Know cana- guide change It'll be interesting to see if he can change some of his philosophies but just talking about whether or not a guy can change. I have to take umbrage. What's what something i've been hearing in chicago radio and people saying you know here. He was very outspoken against the colin kaepernick's and other athletes who followed in kneeling during the anthem. And he was asked about that at his press conference after he was hired and he said i've changed. I've opened my mind to it. I understand and i applaud the way baseball and other athletes are looking now at the injustices to people and racial injustices. And i gotta tell you like. I have to agree with him because i didn't like it. You know when it was happening. At first. I didn't understand it. I opened my mind. I've changed the way. I now see it and understand it and when people look and say oh come on. He can't change it. Drives me crazy because you know if we all can't have you no room for growth and becoming better people in our lives. Well then we're all going to be stuck where we've been the last couple of years and everybody you know hate on each other so i happen to think that he a smart man. He very intelligent guy. I think he is going to open up his mind to it. You know he's got children and grandchildren. I think he is smart enough to know that tim anderson is going to be able to do the bat flip because that is what the fans love on the south side of curl. And that's just how i see it and it takes them. It takes of very mature person to be able to do that. You know you mentioned intelligence and takes intelligent person to have the wherewithal and it's something valuation. I guess probably a better phrase but so you know what. Let me think slip back in and look at this and and really try to learn a little bit more You know about what's going on in our country and and in the way that we can approach affect change and and look. I think so too things couple both from in wishes just the world series this year but i felt like the games where I felt like the games were scripted. which which they all are to a certain extent right before the game starts. The manager has a really good idea of what he wants to do. But i think managers stuff because they should and didn't kind of manage their water feel You know and also you know kind of talking about the world series you you would see even a off all but you know you would see guys on the bench that had three hits the night before or just because the the number said that they play I'll give you an example. There was a game and this is from my play career. But when i was playing for tony there was a game when i was then. We're paying milwaukee. I think it was the playoffs and eleven. And i had just the brewers throughout my career I love hitting in that stadium ball like a beach ball over there for whatever reason in their pitcher spot so it was a match made in heaven. But i'd go in You know what about noon before the game get ready. And i wasn't in the lineup. And so obviously. I was pissed so i went and told his office that. Hey man what the hell's going on like achilles guys my my lifetime dining arbor and he you know whatever was here and you know the guy that was pitching. I can't remember who it was. But i had a lot of success off of them. I mean i was sure i was going to be in there. And you know he says ryan the number say you should play but i got some different numbers that say you should on this day when the temperature is below this. And then you know he goes all these numbers and mattresses. And and i'm looking at and i went in there with every incense get pissed. But i couldn't because you know he was right and lo and behold skipped schumacher goes out and he gets two or three hits. You know he was right. So i think managing with managing with your gut also managing you know using the information that's available. He's gonna be deadly if you would have put him managing the tampa bay rays this year. They win you know. It's a mixture between both all. There's not a doubt in my mind he's gonna manage circles around come of these guys that have relied solely on a laminated part rather than using their eyes to see sixty. You know who the hot hand back to our conversation in a minute. But i have you ever dealt with bunions. I have got to the point that i couldn't even wear shoes without having shooting pain even at night. I couldn't even pull the covers over my foot. It hurt so bad. It didn't matter if i was wearing slippers or boots gym shoes working out or heels for a night out. The pain was intolerable. I finally decided to do something about it. 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I think the second he walks in that quote policies gonna command so much respect that it's already don't you know there's there's certain people in our games that command respect you know when when when county would walk through the clubhouse or everybody shut the hell up you know when he called you in and and she knew was for something important now i was ten years ago and these guys probably you never paid against them but all you gotta do screw this guy's track record or ask around you know what type of manager what's the guy is i mean. I think our players are so informed nowadays. Where it's not gonna be not going to be very difficult. You know winning over a clubhouse 'cause i love by the way i love the white sox i love the energy they play with and i wanna be a great change I think it gives him more problems. I mean from a team. That's using with confidence. Anyway right i mean you guys have seen I think they have more now. Quick story about tonal. Probably talking too much but i apologize. No you're not just as great. You know he always talked about having an edge. Always that was his thing you know and so before the game started. He wanted to make sure that you know we had an edge and sometimes it would be. It would be a lot of times. I feel like he was just making stuff up the convention that we were better than the the opponent day he probably was truthfully but he was big on an on an edge as the cardinals any leather and we say so much versity but go. We would go into games there. The end convinced we were going to win when the entire country you know knew we were gonna lose. But but he'd created some sort of false sense of security that we have this thing like We can't lose today because it's seventy four degrees in the wind blowing more south know six miles an hour. We got Paulos pitcher in his. Era is blonde when september. Second like we go okay all right. Well let's do it done know we're win this thing so i think he gives them a boost yaw i really really do and baseball is such a confidence driven gain. You know. throw those numbers out the door. If you feel sexy in the batter's box and you're confident you're going to have success. And i watch kenley jansen and i love kenley jansen. I played with a wonderful guy. Got a great career. I walked kenley jansen and the world series going into his hat or you had a card in his back pocket when pension or came up and he pulled it out and he looks at the car. And i went you. Don't he doesn't have confidence in what he's getting ready to do. He's not prepared. Not his mind is sending. He's thinking rather than executing you know. Tony's going gonna give them that confidence. Not edge jason. I hope i'm making you feel better. definitely are but but he is. Y'all i'm just telling you. I witnessed it. I thought i lived at. I mean he'd beat the hell out of me for you know seven years when i played for the club and then i got to see it firsthand. You know exactly what it was when i was in saint louis. I know jason's got another question for you. But i gotta tell you when you're saying that about looking at you're looking at the card to see the player that was up next. You know. that's what bears fans are dealing with right now. And that's matt nagy who has phases so deep into his laminated play card. That he doesn't have a feel for what's going on on the field in calling a game with a feel behind it. so but i digress. That's a whole nother problem that we have here chicago. He wants to be honest. Ryan ryan. They are the best five and two team. That's okay now are actually the worst five into team. I actually picked them to beat the saints last week. Purely on temperature and condition. 'cause does not like playing outside. Yeah this is our weekly bears exasperation with them. But jason. i know you are at school. So i wanted to let you ask a couple more questions to ryan and ryan's got his podcast a tape as well so go ahead and jason again I watch just about every single white sox game religiously ever since. I was in fourth grade and i can tell you the biggest problem under renteria mental aaron. The just like just like your good stuff like where anybody at home watching with. Actually it wasn't the right decision or like ball joins through going under the gloves. Just mental layers knocking disciplined t not in your fundamentals up to par through that because they know what you're saying it sounds like he's more players manager than what he is paints into this and you're gonna see a jock analytically and culturally so how it's going to be able to shore up the fundamental and you bit airs premiums white sox team full circle. I can tell you a lot of that stuff at six and spring training. You know It's it's corrected with personnel number one guys in the right uniforms and the right spot Which would she'll be a part of you know But that a lot of those things you're talking about man that's address early. I mean that's addressed in You know in arizona or florida during spring training so You know that's my look a lot different the that this team prepares per season This year as opposed to the ones you mentioned in the past i believe is going to change. You know They prepare we prepare from day one to win in october and win. Ball go through your legs or you're not covering the proper base. You're throwing the wrong days through. Can advance a runner. Get a guy from third plus to if you can't do those things you can't win in october and it has nothing to do with personal numbers or You know accolades. i mean. Look at look. Could david freeze and and and really great player had a wonderful career. But if you could. David freezing. Got in october. You know he is dangerous. You know the the whole thing is a preparation you know to to to to win the world series. It's not a we gotta get to the playoffs. I'm telling you that that's not the thought. That was the one big difference with spring training for me. When i walk clubhouse spring training florida there was a feel of not and hope we have a good year. Let's let's let's you know. Make the playoffs. It was all right. We're we're winning the world series this year you know. How are we going to do it. Everything was the that was talked about. You know we we prepared for that and when the bright lights came on you know and it's it's You know go go on you know. The guys were prepared. You know they were ready to go. So tony larussa is one of the hands down when a great managers of all time the hall of fame. He's three world series four managers of the year that the ancient seventy six. What do you think he is personally trying to would. Why did he come back. What is what is he trying to get out of managing one last time when he's seemingly accomplished all you could possibly want to accomplish as a manager abysmal without talking to him. Because i have it. You know i with him a little bit. Haven't talked to him Without talking to him and can probably be the better one to answer that question. I think that he probably sees something almost outside that it's very interesting. You know. I think he would have to guess that that he thinks the team has a great chance to win a world series and probably he sat back. And watch going on in the manager's chair and went oh that's how they're going to do this. I wanna get back in so you know he wasn't gonna go manage a team. That didn't have a chance. A really good chance to win a will to that was not gonna you know so. He's probably looking for the right for the right opportunity and once he got that right opportunity job man and and you know. I commend him for doing. It told he's got a lot of energy. Does a lot of charity work. You know obviously stayed in the game front office standpoint. i he probably see something else. I do a lot of other people by the way. That aren't lifelong white. Sox saying something going on up there and go oh man. It's got a young core. They've got exciting players. They got arms like they could be set up to really good for a while. You know That he wants to be a part of that. And let's not forget guys you know another bears reference here. He's not he's not john fox's looking for his retirement job he obviously still has some juice to sit on the bench. He still wants to be a part of the game. Which i think it's great. And i'm i am all for it. I think it's going to be very very interesting. And i agree with jason's assessment. Let's see who. He hires says his bench coach. Let see who has proteges are going to be that he may be handing it off to in the next couple of years. So hey ryan thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us about tony larussa. We really appreciate your insight. Some great stories. Not a problem appreciate. Y'all have any jason. Thank you and you gotta take care of that that. Lsu tigers team man. You guys got some work down there. Tell me about it. Hey thank you okay jason. How about your predictions. Okay about prediction so college football this weekend. I know. I think i mentioned to say like when we're taking this weekend's pretty big for college football because by this weekend every single conference will be back because the pack twelve is opening up this weekend. The mac is starting this week are actually starting which is really exciting But anyway i'm going to say right now that the big hand is going to be an absolute disaster. The first week was cool. Don't get me wrong. But with the situation in wisconsin right now and the badgers and now cancelled to back game. And if they can't play third game will not qualify for the big ten championship. That would be an absolute catastrophe because right now look at the top of the big time. It's ohio state wisconsin. And that maybe indiana. But i don't think indiana's for real so if wisconsin ends up having to cancel a surgeon -secutive game and thus be ineligible the big ten championship. I don't think a big ten team will necessarily make the playoffs this year because ohio state would just lack the resume and they would also lack the schedule because if we can't other cuba to cancel games and i don't think ohio platefuls schedule so i know i'll probably want a little too log but i'm gonna say that no big time team will make the playoffs but writing. Okay yeah. I know you're trying to rescue a little bit. Box are going say of bears up making the playoffs. I know five three is especially when you start out five and one. But i still really like the fight this team and i really like the way that they match up against the division in particular they match up well against tampa and then tampa beat the wheels off green bay. So i'm hoping that that can translate. Obviously there's no transit of property in football. But i'm hoping that that can translate Once he gets healthy. I think david montgomery going to get more involved. So hopefully we'll see a lot less for patterson shock and hold off. But i think there's still a good old foes fold good at the end of the game and i think ten six. We'll get into the playoffs as wild card boy not to mess. Okay do you have one more. We're going to speed minnesota bright against there's three wins right there and the jacksonville and and then don't win. Okay okay so my final prediction. I am going to say that. I do not make any mueller each side or any appetizers thanksgiving this year. Well that's an easy win there. I remember what nixon all right. Hey here's my final thoughts. John lester found four thousand eight hundred thirty eight ways to say thank you to come. Fans the cubs declined his twenty five million dollar option making him a free agent so the pitcher may have played his last game in chicago. So it's been quite a ride. Six years co mvp of the two thousand sixteen elsie. Yes he helped. Bring the world series back to the north side after one hundred and eight years. He is the winningest lefty in cubs history. So how exactly do you say goodbye and thank you to come fans you buy them drinks. Lester bought four thousand eight hundred and thirty eight miller lights for cub fans at four different bars in wrigley wrigleville. He posted his bills on twitter under the hashtag. John's tab and for a grand total of forty seven thousand dollars he spent and get this. The staff got thirty percent or more tip seventeen hundred dollars and thirteen hundred dollars onto the bills in chicago. Leicester's time became miller time a pitcher with great taste. Don't know if he's less filling but everything you always wanted in a sports icon for cub fans and with that. Let's say our goodbye. Jason our thanks again to ryan -tario for joining us. You can follow him on twitter at our theory. Oh i'm saying that because you got to know how to spell his name at our t. h. e. r. i o. T. seven or listen to him on the riott podcast one. Oh four or five. Espn baton rouge on their facebook. Page ten pay our our. You know that works owned chicago. Podcast on apple. Podcast google podcasts. Wherever you listen as well as our network on youtube and not forget you can find. Podcast looks like amazon dot com on facebook twitter youtube pinterest to hey thank you all for listening a reminder if you love the show please leave us a review. Go to rate this podcast. Her dot com slash sports caster and follow the simple instructions. Thank you everyone given was safe. Jason be healthy. 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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 862  Early 2B Preview, Pt. 1

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 862 Early 2B Preview, Pt. 1

"Of eight sixty two of the sleeper and the bust. It is tuesday november tenth. I'm euros pulse more. And i'm joined by justin mason justin. Good morning sir. I mean if you say it is freezing you know. I don't mess with that. So i'm sorry to hear that you're dealing with some With cold we've actually gotten some cold here but for the most part it's kind of pushed back a little bit to where there's like a little chill in the air but certainly manageable. And i know that probably whether it's right up here allience not too too cold here but the hot stove hasn't quite picked up yet. Do we say now. I don't know it's going to be wild. We'll get more into it soon. right now. I don't think we need to Keep doing our position preview. But i'm gonna ask you about something that isn't super fantasy baseball related. Bud beyond shocking to me don't larussa. What the hell. I don't know there's no no real quick not just talking about the signing of him which i think y the way i just set it up would we're just for the signing of him in general because i didn't think the firing firing grant rea- again if he doesn't hate the city of chicago for the rest of his life and i just i don't understand You know bringing allures okay. We're like. I didn't think it's the worst thing ever but i just kind of like. Why then we find out yesterday. He got charged with the dui a week ago week and a half ago. October twenty eight. Who is the other day before the announced the signing he'd gotten a dui in february correct And if i had known that it takes ten months to nine months to you know get charged with you i. I would have moved down there. When i was drinking for sure i mean. How do you still hire him. And just as a general point. This man needs some help. This is the second one. He's gotten in old age by the way in older age yet. Other one only fell asleep at the intersection was in the two thousands. I'm not sure okay so this is an established problem. And i've i've got big issues. I've i've got big issues with with with drunk drivers. There's no excuse for it There's no excuse. No no no no no excuse for it. There's even less of an excuse for it when you're rich because in today's age with uber. Exactly the thing that is not even an excuse before that though. 'cause cavs have always been a thing but even if you want to like give a shred of an excuse of like cavs or more difficult now with all the share is is just nothing then you throw in that. He's rich. do you not have a single friend who would come along for the ride and just not drink like all you know i. I don't wanna be. I wanna throw stones glass houses. Because i'm recovering alcoholic. I've gotten my fair share of do you is back when i was drinking And you know when when you're in that kind of state you're just not thinking about other people clearly. And how many does he get before we start throwing the stones though one. It'd be enough to the stone. I just don't know how this doesn't disqualify. I mean this to me saddens like An out of touch billionaire running a franchise. Because they just don't think about like how things look he just won. Eire's buddy Here's an interesting thing. i've i remembered. Obviously that he lewis a worked for the white sox previously. And i was like well did reinsdorf hiram jerry reinsdorf the owner of the white sox not hiring but he did fire him and he actually made hawk harrelson maybe to keep the friendship going in so you talked about the idea of bringing his buddy back maybe they are still chummy and just says now he made a mistake. You know that these and write it off when it's like a friend of like oh you know it's just a mistake. No no this is so stupid. This is so bad. I can't believe that they knew about it. And they're just like yeah. Now we'll go and go through with this and i just can't believe someone didn't extend up to reinsdorf and be like hey aside from the dui snowflake is this side. You've got a young fun team. Yeah That is very socially conscious especially with a guy like tim anderson on it. And you're gonna bring in a crusty old guy who hasn't managed in what ten years and it's eleven. Yeah yeah And has made it very clear. He doesn't think people should be kneeling during the national anthem. that You know whether or not you personally agree with that or not Like the team doesn't at odds with the team in the is trying to push not everybody you know. We're not going to impress Tim's beliefs on everybody but state is believes exactly and they have some young. It's like you said socially active guys on the squad none of it makes sense before the dui dui and i am just dumbfounded by this. I can't believe it and news today. Is it puts him in no danger of losing his job. They're they're they're they're riding along with it. I mean this is yeah. It's unbelievable cut to a shot at carlos beltran league. Jeez buys wrong team anyway. I just wanted to bring it up real quick. it's not fantasy related. We'd talk about alex. Cora being rehired and aj hinch being. I talk about that too. Yeah we'll we'll managerial care. Sell here Do you have an issue with that. By the way at age to my beloved tigers and core back to the red sox that one shocks me that it's just like one year and we're going to bring him back. I asked you the question. But i'll say i'll front. I don't have an issue with them coming back. I don't either I think they were given a suspension They serve that time. You know what i mean. It's It's you know. The idea of what a justice system is supposed to be exposed to punish and rehabilitate and I mean obviously they didn't do much rehabilitating or anything but they serve their time they should be given another chance. Now i think if they break the same or a similar rule. I think there's a lifetime ban coming. It's it's swift and quick if anything any shenanigans come up cheating wise under the helm of these two. Gentlemen this point. It is firmly out of the game. John of style for hinton core. But i've got no problem with either coming back again. The core back to the red sox. There's a little shocking in that you know. Did they just fire him for the optics of it then and just really mean. We're probably forced to. Yeah because it seems that they were to turn around and then bring him bring him right back the following year. Which again you know. I'm not mad about. I'm more surprised but then it shows how little they probably wanted to do that if they were able to You know if they were willing to bring him back that quickly And as far as times go actually didn't have any problems with ron gardenhire. Not just helming in the youth movement but even sticking around beyond that i find him to be perfectly capable you know you don't think he's a top manager but i also don't think he's Stick in the mud. Who actively hurts his squad but then health became an issue and that's why he moved on late last year. It didn't even finish out the season last fall. I mean hope. He's okay just exactly nine days left in the season or something and quit. Yeah that'd became. Who cares about baseball. Yeah let's hope so right and so you know. Obviously they were looking for somebody so go with hinch. I'm here for tiger. Saying i really am so. I'm fine with both of them. Get jobs back in and look you might not agree with what their punishment was. But like you said they serve the punishment that they were given and debut. You thought that they weren't coming back. You were fooling your. I just i. Just you know move set. The giants didn't hire either them like we're stuck with gabe kaplan for another year. Cape camp where he made competitive in the race. Oh pat mentioning at gas. We're i got on this year I i really didn't his at bullpen. Usage is just a. I mean not like we've got like an real studs in the bullpen went. Yeah he's just one of those guys. It seems like he picks the wrong move every time. How much autonomy does he have to do that with. Veron's eighty there no i. I always wonder some of that. And that came to the fore with with the blake now situation with tampa bay. And and what kevin cash able. I imagine they have some. I don't think it's completely written out of like in the sixth inning. You'll bring in this guy and then it'll be this guy And i'm rooting for capital. I i am. But i like you to not as that's so i'd like to. I like to see them. Try and capitalize on. What's likely going to be soft market. Yeah and that's. I was actually talking about this on my streaming and we'll do like a free agency preview This is going to be a two parter on second base. Maybe next tuesday free before things get kicking and we'd like to see some guys land and things like that. 'cause it's going to be really interesting and the pool that you thought it was gonna be thickened with the with with the declining of a lot of option and we'll continue to exactly i think it will continue to get deem but let's get into second base like said it will be a to partner because this position is deep dude holy smokes you put together a ranking. I was just going through in putting together the rundown and realizing it you put the ring together. We got on the horn and then the first thing you said was do this depots. You're not kidding. There's no real able to talk about on these guys outside of doing the two partners and now that we're doing to get into More of these players. Because there's just a lot to talk about their some some talent globs to to wear. I mean you could go through some of these drafts where some of these guys don't get drafted and you're like how do you go undrafted. Well it's just the depth of the position but let's start at the top of course doesn't quite have the Super-duper stars the way we've see in at first base but it does have some star talent. And those three guys ozzy all these dj whitmire field. By the way this is a loosely off adp for the first couple of groupings but then it starts to break down to where i started to fit them into My little my little categories there so albeit mayhew mayor feel. There are are the start here. Do you agree with them. Being the top three he. Yeah i think there is a discussion to be had. There's really kind of a top six Without loud torres and bijou coming in next tour in Oh isn't that base eligible. And i didn't check that one. Pardon me smarter because the sheep. But i think he pulls in. He's got last year Eligiblity okay. that's what. I wasn't sure if that was fan taxes. or what. Pardon me let me delete mr gleyber torres there so then you bring in in here. I think there's kind of a top six reason broken up though is it's it's thirty. One thirty five forty three and then sixty sixty four sixty seven. Oh oh wait get rid of so sixty sixty seven seventy that's i. I thought that there was a little bit of a split there between them but it is like there are strong group. So let's focus on these first three. I the kind of established veteran guys and the other three kind of up and comer types as well and as still being early rounders between all these lemay mayor 'field with adp's being pretty close behind them. Who do you prefer at their their price. I think it's always as my number. One guy i like all three You know one of the things. I mentioned you before we started recording. That i'll mention right now is It's it's like an episode of oprah's show like you multi-positional it's really you get like nfc and if you're league is using the b. c. guidelines Which i believe is eight game. Seven or eight and games There are everybody has multipurpose chargeability at second base. So it's wild. And you and i like to value that pretty highly with everybody having and damn near everybody here we're not being hyperbolic. There are so many guys that we're going to go through in fact in your top twenty. There's only one two three four five who don't have an extradition several who have more than one extra position more than one extra position so it is wild there which will cut into the value of that still nice to have though third base is the same way i manage I think in an you know in. I in short have a lot to. I think what it's going to mean is we're we may wanna start pushing up there's it's a call. So and i think. I'm gonna do an article where i compare multi-positional eligibility around different formats because i'm already in three different leagues that are using three different eligibility requirements. There's a good piece to be written on eligibility In general and what thresholds might bring in what players. No all these the one out of this group who doesn't have it in yet. He's both our number ones. I still think we have not seen the best of all these. I think everything that we've seen has been good and including back to back twenty four Homered teen stolen base seasons fourteen and fifteen respectively in eighteen nineteen. And even with that. We have not seen his best. I think there's a thirty twenty five season that i still think he's not running as much as he can. All be so you can be twenty four next year. Talk to me about why you have at the at the top said you agree that we haven't seen the best of him Explain what you think he can do. I mean he's still super super young he's going to be twenty four entering the season And yeah i know that. The injury really kind of derailed him Last year In the there's a debate by the way. How long do we say last year versus my cut off is usually the nude here. Yeah okay so this year. Twenty twenty injuries. you know. give only a half season. Only played twenty nine gains But prior to that i mean he had been super consistent in terms of twenty four runs in fifteen stolen bases and i just think that there is a really nice high floor There with a ton of potential to grow and I mean he's. He's on a young funds team. That's just gonna get better as they add. More talent I i do think there is a chance that we see a thirty twenty season for him. And i do think that There's a real chance that he like puts that together with like a two eighty to ninety batting average at some point and may not be twenty twenty one but It's common hell. I think he you know in a dream season. He's in well over three hundred as well for all that. That's the thing like the fallen Always performance is so good. It's so good it's like it's like a three twenty thirty twenty type of deal with one hundred hundred or maybe not quite one hundred rabies depending on how that lineup goes with embedding the top but very very very good some of these We mentioned like all three here though. Lemay humor we talked a little bit about lemay you at first base. The guy asked you on that episode is if first base is best deployment which seems weird. Because you usually want that high impact power. When is not quite there. I mean he ten homers in these fifty games at twenty six in one hundred and forty five last year so he's he's not devoid of power thirty thirty thirty homer average for a full season. But i still. I still think that looking at the depth of second base. That only makes me more convicted. That i think first base is the best place to put looming right now. Yeah i think that first base is likely spot. You could end up on him. I mean the nice thing about him. Apparently everybody else in in fantasy next year is just getting those multi-positional eligible guys give you a lot of freedom to move things around. You know when things do go wrong when you when you have an injury if they're you know if we're still dealing with covid issues going into next summer The it just having that added flexibility this year for me was so key in having a successful season. Yup because you know oh. The entire cardinals team can't play which occurs team can't Now okay. I've got the flexibility to move around a bunch of guys and and make it a little bit easier and myself and you're getting the value that i take from more the draft value. Nice to kind of keep you flexible in the draft to make sure that you can get whomever you want at any spot. But the real value. As far as i'm concerned is that in season flexibility to maneuver for whomever you want. And that way you're always in on the top free agent because you can finagle guys around if it happens to be a third baseman this week. Okay i can move this guy. Here's this guy here. They become all these pieces that you can move around and make sure hey. I've got a spot for the best guy. So i'm i'm i'm still in on on the best guys every week. So i like that aspect of it with airfield had a weird season in that I think it was kind of under the radar in his own. Ps dropped down from eight eleven in six. The two previous years down to pretty bland seven sixty four batting average dipped to eighty two and yet nine homers and had twelve steals like he was still really good and i think it was kind of quiet based on a being on the royals. Most of their seasons are quiet unless it was albert democracy making a fool out of us. i was looking at him the other day. Like roasting ham in like early slash. Mid-september was viable which i was doing. And then this like fifteen game run. He went on to just completely flipped his stat. I mean here's the thing like i. I'm not taken an l. On him by any stretch nation because how many teams especially in shallower formats which most people play most aren't planned fifteen team leagues like we are correct How many people onto that point. I agree he was roche's i- put him in a cut article and i don't regret it at all by In this is albert democracy. We're talking about starting to take us on a tangent. But by september third he was hitting one seventy nine two. Oh nine to thirty one. There was no reason to keep them accepted deeper league if the if you had to keep the stolen basis But i don't even go into an out bounce to cut them in some deeper leagues. But then he just went on this stupid run like it was unreal last twenty two games three seventy four twenty four seven doctor. Everybody back in including myself. Who's already taken a draft up believable. You your trader. I was like the first person on monday. Back to mayor field I at the position on the on the red ball player. So i guess that's why i mean by quietly doing his thing there. I don't think many felt like it was a position leading performance. But then you look at it. Everything was there. The average was a little bit lower but the homers at nine and the steals at twelve. Thirty eight runs dirty. rabies is. He been underrated. he's a lot written. I mean this is a guy that yeah we may not be getting back the like the forty five stolen bases That we got two thousand eighteen by also. Don't think it's completely out of the question. I mean he he still well In sixty so. I think we're looking at a guy who should be what he was kind of in two thousand seventeen when he hit nineteen home runs and stole thirty. Four bases it to eighty eight I mean you said the average did but do you know what the major league baseball batting average as all was last year. That's the thing. It was very much in line with with with with that. Making his two eighty two still very strong was was the league average. Like i don't know to twenty-eight or some crap knows higher than that but to forty five. So i mean we're talking about you know guy who's hitting forty points higher than that more than likely With a potential. Obviously i mean he hit three hundred in the previous two seasons two thousand twenty so Yeah i mean. I think there's reasons to put him as the number one or number two second baseman and. I wouldn't have a problem with anybody doing that. I can't argue with any way that you would put all these lemay. Humira field I tend to agree with that order right there. But the differences are non-existent really. Adp's should be even tighter wherein mayor 'field shouldn't even be eight spots behind lemay hugh on adp and that alone if it holds might make mayor field my guy just to take the cheapest one especially if he's half around cheaper which should take i shouldn't take l. in this conversation And that was. I did not take mike. Metheny was going to run his team as much as he did. They were fourth in the majors. Last year tied for fourth majors in stolen bases so Obviously athenees being allowed to let his guys just push on the basepaths which is what he should do with the team as it's constructed certainly. Yeah that's the thing. He would have had no business not to but sometimes trusting him to do the obvious thing our what we believe in this case to be the right thing is difficult but But he did it and he did some other things too when he moved. Mandis down in the lineup when it was going awry in perfect twenty twenty fashion. I had times where. I was supporting mike. Metheny in articles in in on the pied like. Hey he's doing the right thing here like wait a minute. What literally everything just off. Its rocker and twenty twenty and that that was No different the fact that might athenee was was drawing support from me which is very rare. Those the those are the top dogs. Those top three stars moving down to your other guys there that you have right there with them. Plus another one actually no. This one's probably not gonna qualify either then martin. Marseille marseille does qualify. Okay okay so my next four are the early rounders brandon lau cabbies yo casten hera tell martin and we're gonna take them in order as well. Let's start with brennan allow. Who had he finished trend of a lot of folks including the two prime rookie of the year candidates From the american league that we saw yesterday and wherein started off on just a torrid pace and then sputtered to the finish line and then for a while. It actually continued in the playoffs until he got got things going bit. I up temper than i thought though. It wasn't quite as bad as key. Kyle lewis and louise roberts september. They they were legitimately bad. I didn't realize that lau had that. He had a little flourish to finish yet. Three ten seventy five four forty eight in the final nine games but His september to that point had been quite rough down a two thirty three average. And so i thought he spun in a little bit more than that but but the bottom line is he was on fire. He definitely came off of that. That in saint pace april through august twenty nine hundred ten ten s and he finished at at nine sixteen so shave nearly one hundred points off the ps two still excellent season. Make no mistake about it but With brendan how do you put him. You said you had those six to kinda together there. But he doesn't match that So are you taking. Wow over any of the other three or is he clearly four there. I think he is clearly for for me. So i just statcast hero type guy. Love what he can do defensively The raise do platoon almost everybody but he played fifty six of the sixty games so again. He got burn. Yeah he got. He got burn. He lowered his strikeout. Rate raced his walk rate Yeah he's just. I think And still i think has the outfield eligibility Which is great especially Especially yeah he does Especially like i said. Almost everybody in the infield has multi-positional eligiblity but it's not quite the same. The outfield so i think we will unlike lau as an outfielder in oregon going back to the best deployment. Who's my number two outfielder in that draft. And hold that i did i i love him. I'm a big fan of this guy. He's got. He's got the full skill set. Well not quite batting average. Like he's capable going back to your point about two forty five average. He had to sixty nine which was very nice. But you got the big power on equality team and throws in some speed. It's not overwhelming. But he is eight for eight over the last two seasons there. And he had fifty two games in two thousand nineteen an injury stunted them and then the fifty six this year to where three stolen bases this year. Five last so you know you're going to probably get your full season. Capability is going to probably be somewhere in the eight to ten range But it's clear that he knows when to make the right decisions. I wouldn't be surprised about spike in the twelve to fifteen range. You not betting on that. But i think it's it's in there for a while if you were to find the opportunities and decide to take them where i really liked the upside though. Is that pop i. This is at thirty plus homer bat. And so that's what i really really like about. How the double eligibility. He's my number four as well. I put a cut between those first three and him As the adp does but probably not is stark as the adp does. It jumps down from murphy. That forty three to at sixty probably allow somewhere in the fifties. I haven't done like a one. Whatever lists Can i don't draft that way. I draft by position anyway. But if i weren't to do one. I feel like just off the top of my head allowed. Probably be closer to the fifties so we really like him a lot and I think he's like you said one of the few guys in tampa bay. Who can get that full-time burn unless overdue toronto and kevin ezio think he kinda did his thing this year. He came in with fanfare. And i think he just quietly did this thing so i don't wanna say it went under. The radar is draft spots. Still very high and everything but he certainly didn't raise his price. I don't think with his eight homers six stolen bases in fifty nine games twenty-eight rambis forty one runs to fifty hours three seventy five p like a one hundred and twenty five point difference there that is fantastic and four thirty two slug word. What's what's a full season. look like from. Are you doing the easy thing. And adding his two seasons because now that's one hundred fifty nine games. Oh just think about that kind of perfect and he went twenty. Four twenty with the to forty average doing that or refining it. And i'm like what do you think of full season of cabinet visual like. I think that actually that is pretty close affair. I mean looking at maybe like a two thousand eighteen season two forty five batting average like the fact that he cut the walk rate You know five and a half percent in in in twenty twenty It'll be interesting to see. Mean i soon. They're not going to be playing in buffalo but who knows it never know yeah we place. It's a great place it so i. I think this is a guy that i think. He has done it. A little bit under the radar because the blue jays have all these other stars that people are paying attention to and he's of like the number three a on on the list of his own team When he probably should be the number two guy like he he he has been better fantasy. Upset that vlad. And i know we'll get into the vlad best shape of his life stuff. But i'm just not going to pay the price other people you know. I think he's even lower than that. Because you're talking about with with flat Think gurriel junior as a above him and maybe even tasked her. Oscar probably definitely is Agree l. junior. He had kind of an underrated or under. Yeah underrated season two. He was really good. I love him. That's that's one of my guys. They're really like this. Lineup is filthy and so i'm down average of fourteen. I'm done. i saw something interesting and it actually makes some sense. I don't know that it was like a rumor for that was more of an article suggesting that. Maybe they should consider George springer because they don't have a true center field that really. I saw an article saying that they should go and sign lemay like i said the it the first base episode again. I you brought that up. And i was like that would be so bananas like my dad. Team team like toronto or a team like The white sox like a team like the raves. And i can just loaded with young talent like this. Is the time right now to go. Get some of these guys will fill out my extreme for the next. You know five hundred or lemay. Who've e fiend infield springer you need outfielder. I think this is the year and they can be in the mix on these guys. I think without having to commit the seventy year type stuff that we see from from free agency at times because of the weird kobe year. I think these these year counts are gonna come down. And it's going to bring the mid markets more into play. And i mean that would just be so bananas if they signed either of them in terms of deepening. The blue jays lineup. There visuals up at the top. The batting averages are a little light fantasy. wise they're about average Going back to your point. And then i'm going to keep being that point home could probably go more times as emerson just because we don't get some of these batting averages about stinks and it's like they. That's not as bad as you think. You've got to be focused on where that league average is at and appreciate some of these batting averages more but to the point with the ob has always like at least one hundred hundred one hundred and twenty five points higher this year. And that's going to keep him scoring runs even if the average isn't quite where you want it so i really like him as well. Also have jordan groshans in the minor. He's gonna be ready pretty soon so it wouldn't be surprising for them to go. Get a guy like springer and just be like okay. Groshans will be out mid season. How's that even fair that they've got still got more town coming and they actually put together some pitching to and you know some big hurt but Yeah they died they remain a competitive balkam there in toronto and i like visual on Casten era did have the fanfare coming in to the point where i found him to be wildly overrated. And i didn't quite see this sort of fall off with a two twelve average now. He's still hit thirteen homers and stole three bases so it wasn't a total loss from fantasy by any stretch in fact he was still in top ten guy coming in at night but that average plummet that hurt that hurt and the thing that kept bothering me about about as adp which seemed to only go up and up coming into twenty was. Nobody seemed to be talking enough about the bab strikeout rate combo four to combined with a thirty one percent strikeout rate. Something's gotta give their and it's huge babs in the minors and say well no this guy out like that. Yeah and i know some people thought. That could improve a point that i made myself. I said you know. I could see him. Improving the strikeout rate getting but caused minor league numbers but instead it went the other way up to thirty five percent. The of did predictably come down. Probably further than than you would normally expect for somebody of his skills profile down to seventy three part of that is because a third of his home of his hits were homers not quite a third but just under with thirteen homers in forty-six heads. And so that's bring the batmobile Lower there but it was a little bit of a disjointed season. The market is not panicked. Though as casten here is still a top seventy pick. How do you feel about casting here. Going into twenty twenty one now. I mean i'm a fan and is much as i was feeding him at his price. Coming into twenty or twenty twenty. Nine year is right. It was seventy from twenty twenty one. He was in like the thirty five to forty range. If i recall rightly yeah and so as much as i was feeding that i think now this i mean this is the kind of guy i like the guy that You know the batting average is going to vary year to year The ball hard. Sometimes he is going to get the bad but the block But i'm going to buy on the downswing. We know he's power you know he's got speed he's on a team that will run And so like. I think there is a you know. I think he has the potential to be that ozzy albee's without the batting average kind of guy. And if you're a guy who tends to fade batting average to begin with. I do Then that's fine. Yeah he was going forty eight and you're looking for that power speed combo and open spikes on the batting average. I don't these two twelve again. I do the hill start to refine his approach a bit casting her will and then you kind of again smashing the two seasons as has together. coming up with five hundred ninety four plate appearances which is about a season thirty two homers twelve steals to sixty six average diamond. That plays that plays very well. Even if you bring the average down another say points To account for the fact that he was way over his head in nineteen and you want to take more of the pessimistic view. You'd still take that. I mean you take twenty eight ten in to fifty five pretty easily as well from casten here so Songs against doesn't become a problem. True but second base at least is is the right spot and you know right now in ruins to bring it up a few times until it gets set. We don't have h. i. Absence dennis bargained for door. They're going to get it back But it currently not so we have to at least put that out there that we could have a season. Where isn't i assume it's going to be and that would also still be a spot for if it got that bad for here. I think he he could go into some d. h. Get off the field a little bit here and there But i believe from quite there yet kind of off topic but kind of on topic with what. You're a lot of guys that are. Ut only oh yeah speaking of an article. I'm actually doing decline. That on guys who are not only because it. The pool got a lot more robust with the nfl. D. h. coming in and the shortened season. It's gonna change a lot of things so that's gonna be interesting there for sure from here and i can tell martin who had just a season like it was just bad. It was just bad. It did not pan out at all. He did not back up the excellence that we saw last year in nineteen. He was down to the thirty nine. Second baseman used by david. Bodey for crying out loud. Who were not even going to talk them out on to like. I don't find him really worth getting into for that. And that's that's how far down. Martin was to homers one steal eighty seven average hitting on a bad batting average seventeen rabies nineteen runs. I believe was their shoulder issues back coming into the year and then i believe is shoulder but i just don't think he was healthy. I think it's hard not to think that the health profile played a big role here. Yeah i think he. He's just not healthy from the get-go goes The speed evaporated power evaporated. I mean he's still hit for average. But i mean this is a guy that he was already not striking out of very much. Thirteen point seven percent in two thousand nineteen drop that to ten point eight and so as i scroll down to some of his bad at bald numbers yeah he just stops swinging and And i that yet to strike walks kinda wanna look right. Well not necessarily trying to take walks Because i mean the only one three and a half percent of the time. But i think but i i think was trying to be overly patient and they were attacking because they want at that. Point so yeah. He didn't get the walks. But i think he was going up there. Like i'm going to be more passive. Well one out of frady organize this speed scores thing. That is interesting to me. And i'm going to go over and check out his his savant real quick and see what his what his Sprint speed was twenty. Seven savon seventieth percentile. I want to say he's been a guy in the past that has been Yes it was seventy third last year but then ab seven ninety fifth percentile the two years before that in eighteen and seventeen respectively. He certainly shown real speed that that was left on the table. So to speak and didn't really translate into fantasy. Goodness you know this is the guy that of gets associated time with fantasy analysts could tell martin was always like an todd but it was but it was for speed so even when he broke out in nineteen like. Yeah i mean that that's my guy but it's like it's like got the answer right but when you show the work it was. It wasn't the work that i showed. Because i was going for speed. He freely admitted that And now at the speed declining a bit is it ever going to translate. I just wonder if he was unwilling to run or run his heart because he was dealing with injury issues. Shrum and get a little bit of that in nineteen as well That might have also contributed since nineteen had below expedient. I'd i do wonder that he'll be twenty. Seven is not exactly. Your speed has gone at that point so but we haven't seen more than eleven stolen bases. That's that's been the max from from martin so i do wonder what exactly we should be things. I've got him currently. I think it's my eighth Second baseman he loses outfield eligibility. Which is a bummer. I easily drop him. Six seven spots. And i may just because you want some level of safety and while the batting average was good last year That's all offered and he's on a team. That isn't as good as we thought they were gonna be You know they. They traded his dude. Yeah i couldn't believe how terrible they were expected. I had some some plans for the diamondbacks and they were god off. So maybe peace at seventy eight. There's no way i could touch that. Why is the market still. I mean i'm one point. At one point i respected like. They're not just going to throw them out. After a lost forty five games but damas can open for a little bit of a discount but it makes it something like maybe the idea is he was injured. It'll be healthy coming in well. He was injured in at the end of twenty nineteen and then he was still injured. Like as much as i like. Martin do like martin. Ladas player I just can't put him on my fantasy team and then get four home runs from him. Yeah exactly and you know we can excuse it with some injury caveat. I think that's completely fair. What i thought maybe the market was going to say as well. Nineteen was a fluke. Let's move away down instead. They held pretty steady on him. The barrel rate cratered from nine percent to four percent sweet spot percentage from thirty four to twenty nine percent. Hard hit rate actually was held firm. Forty two forty according to savant so it was really more about what he was doing when he was hitting it hard. I think that sweet spot percentage dip in the barrel dip tell the story of why the power was just gone from martin but Yeah i think there's too much riskier. The depth of this position makes it. So i can't really draft. Take any of the next five over marseille. Yeah i think. I'm gonna drop him considerably actually so let's move into the solid vets and it's good saw group here they all perform in twenty but There's there's a reasonable expectation for them. As muncie jose altuve may jeff mcneil jonathan. Vr and. mike was stock is Let's start with muncie but boy. Yeah love muncie. I was big on him coming in and got him in a bunch of spots and you know he was pretty bland he can add matt olsen type season where the batting average was really bad one too but he hit for enough power that i was able to work around it. I didn't have as a big batting. Average guy. Anyway obviously expected more than one ninety two when i buy that. Let's not let's not linked hitter better round it. It was brutal. And i mean he and his on every team of mine pretty much i mean for you should have been that big an issue since teams like that You know he's still finished top twentieth position and and so that helped the it wasn't destroying your teams though. at least that's not the experience. I had Their batting average stung for shredding. To kind of come that and you know there were some teams where i had a batting average over performer. That kind of offset him and then we were working from there and there are other teams. I had matt olson as well. And so i had both guys just hitting some two hundred with the power. He still had twelve homers twenty-seven arabia's thirty six runs on dodgers squad. I'm undeterred by this. I feel like this is a situation where months he would have Worked his way through it in a full season instead. We got two months and we got stuck with the one ninety two I don't think this is at all. He is a two or three. Bab tells a lot of the story there. And i do think that there is some some bad luck tied to that because there is not anything agreed gis in his bat and ball profile that suggests that he deserved that except that the driver cratered to fourteen percent but he's a career twenty percent he was at twenty one and twenty four. The last two years. I feel like that would level down. At least back up to the eighteen to twenty range for muncie and brought his babba up with it so i like i said 'em undeterred here. I'm drafted him again. In twenty one well and i think one of the parts that you can kind of grasp onto you going look what he did in the playoffs where he two fifty four thirty a. Four sixty seven with three home runs emmy and that's pretty much kind of what you expect him. Beer exactly like you were hoping to get saw. He ends of kind of an emmy. He's doing that against the best competition in. You know major league baseball. It wasn't didn't you know didn't get the face you know the crappy pitching we're playing colorado or do any of those things so i think that months he's going to be fine and was first second third as well. So i'm i'm totally not as valuable again this year like like we've been mentioning show And so that's why he you know isn't in those first few groups for me Just because he is you know it's it's a there's no speed or very very little speed To speak of didn't what's still one base. You know twenty twenty four twenty nineteen so yeah. That's all our In in the counting categories but there but there is a bit of a A bit of a discount. There's round discount based on the performance. So i'll take that all day For muncie and get him in the early one. Hundred range Jose altuve now. We know that his regular season was awful but he ended on heino willie's offensively as playoff defense does another story. I don't know some yip's i mean it was. It was brutal but hit just two nineteen. If i told you follow the only news i gave you was at mar that al tubay underperformed severely give his line. I think you're batting. Average fan would still be like to forty five to fifty bay. Okay never below two let to ninety in a full season. Yeah and even his rookie air to seventy six. So yeah only news. I gave me ones that he created and he just didn't just didn't do well enough against expectations for fantasy. I i still think guessing his line somebody would have put his batting average quite a bit higher than the two nineteen. So that was brutal. Five homers two stolen bases two for five on the bases. After last year's six for eleven thing there's a case that speed component in algebra's game is gone as we know it like you said bounced back nicely in the playoffs. Though pop five homers in those last two rounds they're against tampa bay their two games against minnesota. If you want to call that around But five homers eleven ribs and over to on the basis again stopped running but got back on track without a doubt. They're ends on the high note. How does that affect everything. From where you are on. L. tuesday in higher valuing him going into twenty one now. It's hard because altuve as a guy that i've always loved and I didn't get him on any teams this last year. In twenty twenty and saved not not necessarily. I was targeting different players. And i think this will likely be the same. Like if i don't get one of the guys that we've talked about already a minus morte I'm probably going to wait. I just don't jump. There is go to our native fruits. Yeah months he's kind of that. That cutoff point for me to and i agree with you. Accept morte But the other seven I'll be. I'll be one of them but for some reason it doesn't work out then. Hit me on the next group that we're going to get to here in a few minutes. Let's talk mcneil than jeff mcneil. Now he had a really interesting season. If you didn't follow this if you didn't have anywhere if you just missed how this went he went into. I wanna say september. Let me get the exact date. I think it was september one zero. Yeah it was actually the second week in september almost that he got two zero homers as of september fifth. Two thousand nine three forty nine three eighty six not not much of a split there between his vpn slowing it. Because he had to release zero homers. He hit four in a row. Six seven eight nine To against philli to against baltimore. But that's it he just popped his four homers and said. Okay i gotta go back to not heading homers ends up with a three eleven three eighty three or fifty four line perfectly capable but definitely a power dip from what we saw last year remember. He was getting a lot of kudos for the power that he displayed in nineteen because he came in as somebody where it wasn't that expected except our own house chamberlain was pretty big on him and believe that he could for some punch that punch completely fades all the way back to what we saw an eighteen in a brief stint. Similar to this It was sixty three games. Where you had a one. Forty two i so this is fifty two games with the one forty two is so so who the real guy the guy who did a to fourteen. I so far. Five hundred sixty seven appearances or the guy who a one forty two for four hundred fifty seven plate appearances. And who's going to be twenty nine next year by the way. Interject that before you answer. I hope there was an injury. And that's not something i often say. Yeah because if there wasn't then this is not good like it's his heart. Hit percentage fifth percentile exit velocity sixteen th percentile barrel present eighth percentile played fifty two games so it have to be an injury like nagging. He was playing for. Jeff mcneil because otherwise. It's not. yeah so. I miss time. He's gonna drop a bunch. Meyer posted. 'cause it's uh talk. Now you had in early august. That cost him a few days tightness in the lower and then a couple of days after that about a week after that he had a bruised left knee now. Either of those could have lingered in been an issue. You can make that case. But we don't know. And i don't know you know in the case. He usually draws us out of players in the offseason to find out where they were but it was certainly weird and then he hits the foreign a row and then goes right back to to nothing for the power. So i don't know on mcneil and again. I'm just going to reiterate the parliamentary debate. Just not paying for him. When there's so many other guys. I like beyond this at this point. What do you think he'd project him for next year in a full season. How many how many hours twelve. Oh so you're really down on power. Yeah the closer to link sixteen to eighteen. But it's still down from twenty three in one hundred and thirty three games. So that's a full season. Pays that runs pretty high Still good average guy for sure but there's no real speed dog they're you know he's twelve for twenty one in his career he was offered to and in twenty twenty. So you're looking at really batting average in decent counting categories. Even for the mets. And that i mean if you know obviously we think the is coming into. That would give him the spot. But we always definitely as you're talking about like over with and rosario and tasty davis and then the outfield they have with dom smith emerging mcneil has to start i know is currently not listed to. Yes i i mean. I think the mets you know could be spenders of a new owner scott engine I think on anything. What what are they were. What are they have space. They're adding the age then. Couldn't edgy a in cruz type. That'd be so mad. That'd be so stupid. I mean they. They don't need that all all of this. All of their spending insofar as they go spending should be pitching. I agree but there's only so much you know. Elite pitching up there. I understand not everybody can sign driven power. I know but you know there's a chance at stroman takes his nineteen for the qualifying offer. Yeah i don't know to. I mean he he probably should. But i mean he all like it. You don't think you're gonna get a long term. I mean it sounds like gausmann will take the qualifying offer as he won jillian percent. Yeah and then. You've got guys like porcello wainwright smiley more. Severe offered your offer. If you're struggling three. Forty eight d take that instead of the one. Nineteen i mean i don't but it's hard because i mean if we if we're getting a full season plays a huge role because it's you know you're less likely to want to take that qualifying offer. If you're only going to get a sixty game season right yeah so or even one hundred game season because then you're looking at well. i'm only getting. what eleven or twelve million of that Was opposed to being able to go sign that longer term deal and maybe backload it So yeah i mean but the really i mean i think we assume there will be more pitching on the market Great episode of rates and barrels. With the you know and And derek and britain girly Recently they talked a little bit bow. What the season my Or the offseason might look like And guys like sean mnaya could be out you know. Get non tendered so definitely definitely go. Check that out Because they know more than me in terms of you know more than me in terms of like those those kind of guys who might be available. But i mean. The pitching market isn't as thick as hitting. No no is definitely not that flush again. I just i don't know man i. I really don't think that they need to be putting their resources into with the limited resources they've got they've got the richest owner in baseball unlimited spots. Like are you gonna put. Jd davis and jeffrey neil on the bench. Such a ways. They're not young. You can't sit canot because making that money and he's performing really well by the passenger. I mean carlos beltran coming back. I have no idea. Should they should should red sox did it so i don't know man. Obviously we're going to be down on macneil though just based on how we feel about the position at large but you have concerns about his playing time and i know that he's not starting currently in the roster resource lineup if if and when the d. h. is settled. I think dom smith or j davis are both candidates to move there with you know playing the feel not that he's a stud field but i think he's better than both of them pretty clearly Actually i don't know how good dom smith defenses so. I don't wanna speak that but i know jamie davis is not very good. Let's move on to jonathan. Vr disappointment city dude holy smokes. And i really only put him in this grouping because the eighty still has my peer and that is completely speed based quarterly but it didn't have sixteen stolen bases to thirty two three. Oh one ninety two is horrific sixteen steals it more steals than he did runs or rabies fifteen rabies thirteen runs. Sixteen steals do homers. Split between miami's exceeds lot sixty s deal is but dude. He was caught five times. Imagine if he hadn't been taught the problem with him is he's a free agent. Yes and so. We don't know where he's gonna go or anything i wonder. What are we doing with a thirty year. Old jonathan vr. Kind of draft list. Right now until i know where he's gonna end up because he could feasibly play somewhere where he's not a starter. I see him not being a starter meal. Not i think is gonna play. I don't know. Vr is gonna play him and he stopped playing him in toronto after a while. They're like okay. Well we acquired you. And you kinda suck. Yeah i just. I don't know where he's going to end up and that that becomes Very concerning in terms of What his usage could be easy. He going to be a juror dyson tie where he you know. Maybe playing half of the games Defense for that. Though i get what you're saying about the baby. He's because he can plane so many spots like that. Be that that utility yes. I mean he. You know the harder to though is without a d. h. In the national league like you don't have to worry about double switches or you know in because he's not good defensively knocked the cage because yeah yeah yeah. Yeah because it doesn't get him into games more naturally. So yeah i my initially i was like oh i think he's like a top fifteen second baseman. But i don't think he's a top twenty second baseman until we know where he's going to land dead spare. Vr still finished twenty third ahead of both and all these on the player raider. Those deals were doing a lot of work. They were doing all the work. And of course Always with the most time is is the big difference there but The fact that he was ahead of mcneil's kind of funny. I think this is something we're going to Or at least. I'm gonna continue to mention throughout you know throughout some of these early early. Positional previews is the guys that aren't like studs or really really. You know very good talent that we know we're gonna sign if they're not on a team. I'm in early drafts. If you're drafting in november december or january. The i'm just not going to touch those johnson aboard. Yeah unless unless it's just a huge discount and then you take the chance. But i mean we saw here. Yeah we saw yourself. We get huge discounts and people being stoked that they got him where they got him outside the top two hundred picks and he. He never played a game he signed and then didn't sign and then they never. Yeah such actually. Peter ben with atlanta by the way that think about how. Nice that we've actually been. I'm just shot that. Nobody do a blown away by like he was not amazing in nineteen but he was like perfectly average. he was awesome from fantasy standpoint. Twenty four homers nineteen steals in the sixty seven average General up it was. It was a ninety nine. Au ps pause and by all accounts like a teammate. Like barasch but he's the only one that hates it. Yeah i mean. I just don't understand that. Not a single team thought that they could use your help week last year. I i do not get it. I just do not get it. That made no sense to me. But yeah you're i mean. Vr could be one of the one of those guys that just lingers in lingers lingers and it just he doesn't get signed so i'm with you pretty much off the draft board unless a big discount comes in that discount is not there early on in the too early mocks. He went one thirty five. Un it's highs ninety nine. That was the clear outlier. There was a ninety nine in one of four and then everything else looks like it was excuse me one thirty or later and six of them were one forty or later so there were few outliers there on the high end for vr. But i don't even know if the one forty is good enough discount for me the one forty one. ap guy. We're actually not going to get to here because we're gonna finish with this with this last guy. Mike moustakas but jake colonel. Worth has a one forty-one adp and i'm taking him a hundred on one hundred times vr. I don't know much. Vr for me. We'll see where he lands and go from there. But let's finish with mike. Stock is here and He was kind of got the job done to a degree. I it was forty. Four games miss some time to thirty three thirty one four sixty eight with a little chip and steal their For funsies he was thirty fifth at the position sandwiched between jose. Altuve and adam frazier these player. Rankings are hilarious from the for the sixty game season by the way You know. I expected more out of him. We all expected more out of the cincinnati. Offense as a whole it just did not perform and moose underperforming was part of that. Would this is one of those ones. That was like he wasn't killing you but he certainly wasn't giving you the full experience that you had expected. Where do you stand on newstalk. S coming into twenty one Like newstalk s. i think He should bounce back to kind of the guy that he has been which is owned high twenty s low thirties with potential. More home runs To fifty batting average. I just you know. I think that there's so many things that worked against him. You know he had that love. The covid scare like yeah didn't get covid but he spent on the code. I l for a few days in new york new environment. I think i'm just gonna kinda give him a pass and And he's not he's not young but he's not like super old. We're not you know he's thirty two so I think it'll be fine. I think he's a you know. Yes like not not quite as prime anymore but just like like right at the tail end. I think it's gonna be good offensively. They can't being this bad again. I don't think not. What the personnel. That they have in the fact that they may continue to add like the a team. That certainly shouldn't take their foot off the pedal completely no they. They're another one of these teams that like. I think they're gonna resign power. I think that's where bauer wants to be But he also wants if they did by. Yeah yeah I and i think he just has to you know in order to get the the price he wants. Whatever it is for one year he should sign a seven year. Deal with opt outs every year. Oh my god. That's what the threat of i. I still don't think he's going to sign a megadeal though. It's not going to be the one year that he talked about. But i think it's going to be still more like a three to four year deal. And because i think he wants to be a multiple time free agent. But we'll see we'll see how that goes but yeah moose. Three round discount off of last year signed me up for it. Yeah that's gonna wrap us up here Because if we went to this next group it'd be we'd be another hour because there's a really interesting group of on the rise players that will start off with on thursday There's a billion guys laughing one. That talk about every single. One individually wants to start to trim it down. But this first group on the rise. With cronin worth dylan more tommy edmund. Nick madrigal nick soulat at gavin legs under samantha's garrett hamson tight friends. We will talk about every one of those guys. At least and then the final two three categories will be will be more choosy about what we do there but second baseman superintendent. You know what credit to brad johnson. He was on this in. The two thousand. Twenty season is money that you know. We need to give them credit. But you gotta be gotta be intellectually honest and you know what brand you're on it and it was saying guys take a look at how deep this is. He was right super super deep and it got deeper as the season went along so it made him more right as as the season progress. And so as long as we're saying things that we regret having to say I do have to retract and apologise for something. I said on the last episode. I made a quick mention of evan white. Not being good or very good defensively. This last year he goes on wins. A gold glove ton of people cellmate. Yeah some decimated meet some very nice and slid in my hands and said hey. Take a look at this. Hey took it. Take a look at that and i was wrong and When i'm wrong. I want to admit it that way. People don't think i'm one of those guys that But yeah no i. I was wrong. And i apologized. Having i know he's a loyal listener. Yes so I said in the in the comment section which. I don't necessarily read super often. You can always hit me up on twitter or on facebook messenger or something like that. But i just happened to see and i was like i think. I think you'd want to see this one because you're were similar where you know we. We hate being wrong. Admitting we're wrong but doesn't mean we won't admit it. We just hate that word. We miss something when i got. Damn that sucks but when it's an egregious miss We're gonna own it. And so you're you're owning that and you know i didn't know he was that good defensively that's why didn't give an aggressive push back i was i just kinda was going in the moment of like. It was an off handed comment to you. Didn't like breakdown. His defense and be like not evan white sox just said and his defense is is hard. The hard part about defensive metrics is actually. It's based yes. Some defensive metrics will say one thing and another thing i will say a completely different thing. I mean yuks. Gordon just won a gold glove so i mean the plot club so You know i mean And i mean i watched a fair amount of mariners games and i just didn't see him you know be like stellar. I apparently was wrong. In so i will take my elder at apologize and take it back so that way. Very big of not. I mean it's also learning experience for me so you know i get to go and watch more than white. Yeah ben there for sure you know the again the comments and like hey. You're dead wrong on this. You know what i sure was so it happens And i appreciate. Y'all keep an honest on that we talk a lot and we do an hour at a time sometimes longer bound do botch some things. So definitely keep us honest. Always always appreciate that. We're back thursday. Talking war second baseman until then. Justin take care and stay. Warm buddy

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Old Man and the Team

Around the Horn

21:32 min | 9 months ago

Old Man and the Team

"The. White Sox, and Tony, Larussa whether back to the futures best strategy Gago and the Falcons in panthers and whether it goes falcons, might need a falcon saver and balcon saver. The afternoon White Sox naming their new manager you ready for it its Tony Larussa twenty twenty one. Last. Manage in twenty eleven. When he won the world series would say Louis last manage the white sox in one thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, six. White. Socks are good. The white sox are yum. How does Tony Larussa? Sarah's fade. He doesn't he only fits with their owner, his buddy who has said for a long time. His biggest regret was leading young unqualified GM Hawk Harrelson decide to fire Tony Larussa back in nineteen six only two players on the current white sox were alive. The last time Tony Larussa managed the white sox. He's had an eight year hiatus. He's seventy, six years old. He is a noted anti let the kids have fun manager who believes in the unwritten rules of baseball not to mention he is notably antisocial statements, anti peaceful protests and less two. Years ago and Cabernet I made his stance. He just double down in February on. Graham. Bensinger show talking about how much he doesn't think there's any place in the sport for people to be vocal about those things. He backs that up into a city, Chicago with a like Tim Anderson who not only is Swaggie but is extremely about social issues and I have zero idea why in this year you would take an exciting young thrilling team like the white sox and pair them with the exact opposite in every possible way. This is the dumbest decision that I've heard since yesterday when I don't know a million people said, they don't wear masks. So many pretty for no then with Larussa and the white sox. Okay now. There's lots of unpacked page just for starters the idea of Tony Larussa with the White Sox and twenty twenty one. Oh thank you. Toady Mike First trip back to the show and you're gonNA. Have Follow Sarah. Out of Chicago. Tony Larussa somebody I've known since one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy four when he was a minor league player and All School in Denver, and that's how I got the right. How in the world? Can I defend him after that but I'll say this, he was incredible manager for a long period of time I Serra made some very good points in terms of whether he's going to deal well with analytics, what he's going to deal with the young lawyers and how they approach the game. Now how he's going to deal with issues that are off the field, but here's the thing about it. Verse Smart Guys. I said he has a law degree and he has been very successful and you talked about you've walked away from the game after winning in one thousand. Nine, hundred, eighty six, and then he came back again. But I think that he is going to be not here's the point I'd really WanNa match is they shouldn't have made a move it manager they had a good manager in place and this was point writing like all going to your old friend and I'm not going to sit here and defend old guys but I think maybe the game has passed him by. Okay. So now he did walk away from the game at twenty eleven you walk that far because he was doing work with the Arizona diamondbacks in their front office. Now mini cons I'll bring you in here Larussa and the white sox. To. Me The biggest question mark in potential problem is the culture fit right because. Agent. Just a number I mean the oldest managers in baseball Joe Madden, dusty Baker relate. To their players. Okay. So analytics, that's another place I think where people are nervous about Larussa because of some comments, he's made in the past even though you know in some ways, he was very innovative winning manage I will reserve judgment there but the culture fit the fact that players and people inside the organization according to Jeff passenger already apprehensive about pairing a traditionalist with a young exciting diverse team. That is what concerns me, and in that case I think the onus here is on the Russa to prove otherwise because he has to show that organization he's evolved a Kevin Blackstone. We've got a challenge to the presidency, the United States, who is seventy, seven years old, and we're worried about a seventy year old. Baseball I me. What are we talking about here? All these points made though are very valid a nice book into his career however with Larussa when he was hired by the White Sox at the time, he was thirty four years old the youngest manager in Major. League Baseball. And now he's going back to the seventy six year old manager in baseball with a resume. That is one that. Managers would like have with all the all the trophies on the rings, all that kind of stuff. We know what he's done but yeah, will he be able to fit in in two thousand and twenty with these new? These new athletes dominating the game maybe not we're about to find the era is no part of you excited to see how this might play out. Well. He's a hall of Famer is the third winningest manager ever his resume speaks for itself when it comes to baseball but let's not forget. He's GonNa. Be Managing during what will still still certainly be a pandemic at that age and then also let's not forget that if you're going to hold them up as better than some other options because core or others are associated with cheating, he managed the most steroid adult Dugout A. History. And he also allegedly according to his old white sox cohorts was part of science dealing back in the day. When he was in Chicago, he's affiliated with all the things that you're GONNA hold Donald. Who are younger and more qualified to put you down for here? I'm GonNa put put me down for. Tell us you really we've been horn we're GONNA move. day to hear Baseball's investigation into Justin Turner. Think of the ultimate universe we could have been in today the race had one game six, game seven would have been last night. Dodgers would've had to play without Turner or gave seven would have been postponed. If the dodgers you know a player tests would be coming in through the system and they'll be investigation here on the celebration in the field that falls completely on Turner and the dodgers for defying. The protocol emphatically reviews is how the release said when they said tournaments wrong. But there's also questions over how the inconclusive tests from the David Board surface stove late. During the game. So that falls on Major League Baseball. Katie. How significant is this investigation year? What impact can have now that the season is over and you trust Major League Baseball to get to the bottom of this. Well. We can't have any impact on the season just ended I mean they're not going to take away the trophy from the from the dodgers but you know those really for me it's all on major league baseball I understand personal accountability responsibility aspect of Turner of finding out that he was positive and then coming back onto the field. But the bottom line is is a major league baseball should have some penalties in place already for people who violate this code, every other sport did and why doesn't baseball? So now they're expected to come down with some arbitrary ruling. Against just Turner did that we all witness I? Don't think that's I don't think that's right either it's all on major league baseball he page. It's not Kevin. Baseball? Yes. There were mistakes made by baseball just ZIP was made. A year ago in regard to the cheating. So yes, baseball needs to take another hit. No Pun intended but turner has to take a hit here. He wasn't supposed to go back. He had been tested positive but he added he goes out there I think you've gotta take punishment if you are Turner and the one I would give him is take away his world series chair. There's no reason that you should be out there I know. You want to celebrate, but you have been like basically kicked off the field. You're not supposed to go back. Security officers are trying to keep him from going back on the field. So yes, he should be penalized. Baseball should look at itself, but he should have his world series take taken away. So it's a financial punishment for him. Do you believe he should miss game? She'd be suspended going next season is this something that can go? That way what he page No, no, I think the financial hit will be Nikon's move on. Yeah I. Think both parties are equally culpable here I mean I I understand why Turner did what he did I don't a gruesome I think he should be held accountable and all the criticism of it But I what I don't understand is baseball and how they let it happen because all season long there's been inconclusive tests they knew how long it would take to get the result and yet he played. And Kevin's right they've been deliberately vague about all of the rules regulations punishments purposely to create some grey areas, and this is the consequence and they have to face up to that speed. According to reports inconclusive tests have never held anyone out the rest of the season but this one was delayed, which is why they didn't get it till the second inning of this game, which is why expedited the second test that caused a positive that ultimately resulted in him being pulled. That's important. MLB is still at fault here for that, and again, they're at fault for not having specific things in place to the point where early in the season we saw the marlins take a team vote on whether they should go out and play despite positive tests. They needed to be more clear but anyone that says, they understand just turner he had to have decided before this happened how he felt about this virus because anyone in any circumstance who was told that they had an extremely contagious virus that had already killed two hundred thousand plus would say themselves immediately removing myself from anybody else unless they already decided that they didn't care about it, which is what he did. He should be suspended for a significant chunk of next season because fines will not have any impact on next year no one will remember that. Now you're saying you're taking the twenty five game suspension for defying. So brazen the protocol that we had a lot more people in this next year to and to hear people say. This was his celebration. He worked his whole career for this. You say what? Sarah Spain? I say that is no excuse and that's the reason our country is in this mess nine months later because we keep prioritizing the things that matter to us over stopping the spread right I mean, we talked about this yesterday. The entire country and world has had to make sacrifices. Only, dealing with celebratory things here, I'm not dealing with the loss of life wishes heart-wrenching. High School Graduations College graduations, hundred birthdays for grandma and GRANDPA. The entire world has made sacrifices like that. Here's what I thought about the NBA. When they get a positive test mcgruder bear, they stopped the whole season stopped the whole season when the NBA in the bubble found out that Lou Williams. Tasting Wings that Strip club he was immediately punished for that and this now you're seeing on the field Unicom's Justin Turner celebrating without a mess next to a cancer survivor, and this is what is an image just GonNa be indelible and lasts forever Major League Baseball. You I've seen people defend it by saying well, he's he was around his teammates and coaches. So if he was going to infect them, he already did that doesn't make sense. That's not how this works. It's. You can affect anyone at any time circumstances can change, and also there were other people on that field. That reasoning does not fly with me and I agree with Sarah it is it's selfish and it it does deserve punishment. Your thoughts on that coming up fight or Possibly change the way how you about. Last week during this. I I get down. Dow would always there long sore getting I. I get down. That's the NFL mills audio. You know how it all plays out. Hearing that. There's some question as to what gateway that was huddled four whether it was the third down before or the first goal here. So that does kind of. Affect how you might see us but does it change how this played out for you in the blame? Todd Gurley took Unicom's. No it was a mistake regardless of whether or not. He was told you can see him remembering to pull up too late and Franklin saying we'll talk girly wanted to touchdown. He's not playing himself in fantasy guys like his perception around believe. reflects. Decisions like this people are aware of it and not just rob touchdowns or anything that. I thought the film basically reinforce what I believe, which was a mistake and for coach new coach. where he more about say it was his responsibility. He's trying to take the blame away from girly when he shouldn't really be because girly made a mistake and if it was such a problem, why didn't you call time out and make sure everybody knew exactly what they report It seemed like everybody did know as much as I want to believe this was just a mistake he had more than enough for the first down and you could say in the past he's done the right thing. But this is a team that's kind of rudderless and doesn't need the wind. So maybe he is thinking I need touchdown to prove that I'm be watching. Afterwards even what you saw shirt it. He's sure sold that I'm not saying for sure. I'm just saying it's seems suspicious dough blastoff. On the stage. The only thing that changes for me is that at least the coach and the quarterback off the hook because they made that reminder very clear. No matter what town was do not go into the end zone, but it still doesn't solve the defense of giving up a seventy five yard touchdown drive and eat plays with just a minute to go in the game. Tonight Falcons Versus Carolina the mind? Races. With possibilities for how this one ends. Through the Falcons Falcon tonight. mito. You Watch for Carolina. What do what do you guy? I've got. Carolina. That's the young feisty offense that's been really good under new coordinator Joe Brady without Christian McCaffrey I. They'RE GONNA put up a lot of points on a bad defense. Attorney Bridgewater's just to emerge. I mean he's a guy that I think it's perfect for that organization and I think that you watch Carolina they're playing without McCaffrey he's not gonNA come back next week but I don't see them as. I think this might be closer than people think only because the panthers pass rushes bad their secondary hasn't been great. They're prone to give up the big pattern Julio Jones's back this time it wasn't around the last time they met that being said the Falcons still give okay that is a band freeze. We don't need to hear that closer than people think this is the Falcons they play close games and bed something at the end to look having quickly on tonight. Yeah I got the panthers and they really need it because the next couple of weeks with the chiefs and the buccaneers are going to be difficult for them. They think they were a playoff team move on Trivia for points right now you guys ready the last city to have to championship seasons in the same year anybody note Washington Washington just last year mistakes and the nets. All right last to have three. Detroit nine thousand thirty th good guess. It's La in oh two. They had four with these sports eight Galaxy Lakers bring that up because L. as in play for multiple three. This year Jared Goff scissors pressure on the rams I guess it could be the rams or the charges what he? Added pressure because L., A.'s down the city champion. Four four major leagues they had in Detroit gave you major league. Thank you very much. Okay. Wise. there. No pressure on the Los Angeles chargers I guess because they're gonNa be good and nobody pays attention to yes. There's there's pressure on the rams that is self imposed as be people NELL A. Third and so yes, they're going to every week. People are going to talk about the possibility. There's fun pressure for the TRIFECTA asked but the real pressure is on teams in places where they have nothing else going for the people will still be celebrating even if the rams fall happy. The only pressure on these rams is the fact that everyone thought that they were so good. They got so close and came up short. That's the pressure has nothing to do with any other teams in the city. There's business pressure on the rams because they don't compete with the chargers they compete with the dodgers Lakers for this city's engine and those teams have been thriving. So that puts pressure on the rams from businesses to hire sell three. Let's make sense in the Wisconsin. Cancelation Badgers twelve. In the program has positive that's short of the big pens red red level that triggers a seventies ause but Wisconsin took the seventy Paul's anyway making the game a no contest with no makeup date whether it's constantly that because they were down to their fourth quarterback to avoid loss there's that there's also the big ten telling Nebraska. They can't Eh Chattanooga. Sarah Spain what do you make of this? I just want to point out there is a threshold, but there's also in the big ten protocols ability for a team to consider viability of continuing with the competition six coaches don't quarterbacks. This makes sense to me if you make those rules before you have to apply abide by them when you come up to a tough situation. I applaud Wisconsin for not putting the business of college football ahead of the safety and health of their players and anyone who may come in contact with, and we just went over what happened with Justin Turner and the dodgers. Let's not let this escape. What they did. The rest of the league should make the same sorts of decisions that they did. I think two things can be true at the same time. Wisconsin. Might not have made this decision if it was players like at the end of the roster and from a public health perspective, it's probably the right decision. I disagree with China I think they have every right to say If it's about quarterbacks six assistant coaches also have tested positive. All regulations and protocols are made to be broken, and in this case I. Was Lots of all or maybe you lost be there. But you said you disagree with me, which makes me think you've got to have a conversation by yourself over there. What we do a showdown with Sarahspain at Kevin Black throated in two minutes. Sarah Kevin Blackstone good-looking showdown. Listen. The key to success. Comes with Jones. Basically be reversed the drake curse. Let's call it the. Congrats to all you Jonas loving athletes out there who were smart enough to come to the show. You deserve those championships. So they're Lewis Hamilton. All and of course, the dodgers a question my sister Christina has been waiting for me to ask my whole life. Nick Jonas catch you a ring. Do you believe in Jones blessing? Sarahspain I you. I think it's worth pointing out that the Jonas brothers at Saturday night live last year and I seem to agree. Show Okay Kevin. What's your Jones brothers do using Lewis Hamilton who won his first championship back in two thousand is in. Or. Their, blessing. I don't believe in any sister now says, maybe I should go pro I've seen them four times and my pop no reality took her to the concerts. So maybe he should go pro Sarah what a dominating. Take thirty seconds of. Speaking of dominating we've spent a lot of time lately talking about the WNBA, bucking the trend for sports going up when everything else went down. Well, how about we add the NWS l. a five hundred percent television viewership increase from last year massive sponsorship deals to successful tournaments amid Coleman Bet on women when you invest it. Off. Today, but you know what tomorrow is. Our Halloween, extravaganza we call it. But now I'm realizing we should probably come up with a new name These are favors from years, pets. What Will Tomorrow Bring Ooh Tomorrow Sarah Spain and he tease for us any clue you might be. Patients are. All right. That's not. We'll see you tomorrow around the loss. This class look haunted. Think. So what about those two creepy girls Kerns Steamy? 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Starting 9 Episode #61 - David Ortiz

Starting9

1:37:34 hr | 3 years ago

Starting 9 Episode #61 - David Ortiz

"Welcome back to starting nine. The one amber is coming to a close October. I can smell it in the air. I'm just supposed to say that I don't actually smell it in the air. There was one day this week that it was. Series. I smelled pump haven't dipped into the pumpkin beer yet. I feel like that's probably that's probably this weekend type deal. I had my I had my first basic bitch. I think two weeks ago. Remember you how lovable you were a course. I was blown away. My lips haven't forgotten that flavor, and I can't wait for hit my lips once again, that's when you know follows the fall. Classic is right around the corner. I- jeered I can smell it and I can taste. I am like having trouble sleeping at night mostly mostly last night more more so than other nights because we have David Ortiz on the show today through story. I that brought me back to my childhood not because I was going to talk to David Ortiz because it reminded me of like, you know, seven years old the night before Christmas when you're like, I don't know if I'm gonna. Fuck. It's like, how do you sleep tonight? I just want to wake up and I just want it to be the next. Day, and I want to enjoy this next day that I know is going to be awesome. That's what we got for you today at an interview, David Ortiz, and I wanna take this time right now to thank poppy. You wanna talk about a physical feet. We saw his career unfold, Jared, right before our eyes. Yeah, many physical feats achieved. I think the most incredible feat achieved was him able to walk around the entire barstool headquarters with you dangling from his testicles. If I don't care how Dallas there. This is the one guy that I'll let you have this stance on because we had this discussion before star recording there. There's no bigger. There's no bigger name for me in life, not just in sports. David Ortiz is a walking legend to me and I don't care if if the Red Sox for the rest of my entire life, I'm twenty nine right now. Hopefully I live to be like fifty four. That's with you in that checking out a five. Yeah. And that's in those span of years. If the Red Sox happened to win like five World Series titles in a row and they have the superstar player like he's never going to mean more to me than David Ortiz. Us ever true even asked you. I posed this question. I'll pose it again for the listeners. Let's say. Ellen. David Ortiz are hanging off the side of the cliff. Yeah, and they're both dangling from a rope, Jared, you've got two arms. Excuse me, all even throw Jenna in there for you trying to figure out a way that I could force you to have to choose between David Ortiz and your mother, but you having two arms and two. So Jenna, your mother and David Ortiz are hanging off the edge all from a rope. You've only got two arms. Who do you save? It was a no brainer. I'm saving my mom and I'm saving David Ortiz and all right peach. Yeah, I feel like she would understand, like I feel like you would as she was like falling. She kinda shrug and be like, yeah, I mean, you know, saw coming. Yeah, like it wouldn't be that moment and like The Lion King with like squaw are in Moosa. Yeah, we're clause in his hand and he's just like, throws him off and there's like some shock and there's like anger as he's falling my sister, it'd be like, Arul it's, you know, it's not good. Yeah, that's that's how it will go down. So yeah, that's pretty much it. This was a big day for me. This is a big day for me. I'm glad you got to live it in the flesh. My friend, Yasser. Thank you. This is longtime. The rocket has never burned. Brighter. He's burning today. Yeah, I feel I feel like I'm glowing feel like I'm walking on the sunshine. Yeah, you're walking walking on the sun walked. So now we talk about that band here. Walking on sunshine. That's the song and I'm trying to hear. Okay. All right. Yeah. So another reason why I'm not sleeping as much Dan Lewis is because the National League West coast baseball. I mean, you can't turn it off. You can't rough like there's heroin. Yeah, there's been nights when it's just like, well, the backs are playing the dodgers. I can't go to bed or any one of those match ups. You have the cubs are playing the pirates and you got the Rockies. They're playing the Phillies which by the way I got, I got a fucking smitty. Does everyone know about this? Everybody knows. Okay. Knows if the Phillies do not end up a five hundred ball club. Smitty is going to write a check to the rocket for two two. Yeah. So they they have four games left their two games under five hundred. He tried to buy me out this morning for seven hundred fifty dollars. I said, buddy. All we have to do is win one game, and I make more than that. I get a grand even if they, if 'cause it was a double. Or nothing bet. So if the Phillies finished five hundred, then I get a grant. So he tried to buy me for seven fifty. Go fuck yourself. So you should have bought me over thirteen hundred or something, and I still wouldn't have done it if they get to five hundred, he bet you that they get to five hundred. Didn't they winning season? No, he bet a winning season. Yes. It's winning season versus below five hundred. So five hundred seasons of push, but he would still only aground because there was a double or nothing. Yeah, this is this is quite the development that the Phillies for the first time in baseball history, they would become the first team in baseball history to be fifteen or more games above five hundred through one hundred thirteen games and finished with the losing record that is via Jayson stark on Twitter in the land sly that I am in. I guess it's a little confusing that the Phillies have committed to Gabe Kappler as their manager and twenty nineteen. What if what? If Bryce Harper, Manny? Machado, don't wanna play forgave capital. You ever Kappler is gone. Yeah, the why would you like you can you can tell him how maybe but why would you commit to gave capital beyond this year? If you have such, why would you reason you're in front of you? Why would you not commit to Gabe Kappler if he has given you what he's giving you this year with the group of players, he's giving it to you with. Look at the fucking collapse at there in the middle of right now, they were in first place, playoff team. Can the collapse be attributed to a young pitching staff and two young? Just a young team all knowing out, I would say it's more on that doesn't exist. No. I mean, like Velazquez is Ben there. Pavetti has been. There is a veteran Knowle's a Cy Young candidates. I'm not blaming it on the starting staff at all. No, I just don't understand how you look at what they have done this entire season, and I'm not blaming it on the manager. I'm just saying, I'm not. I'm not bleeding. You're asking, how do we give Kappler an opportunity? How do you commit to all? Because there's, there's whispers. I wanna play for him. Where does? Okay. So some guys don't wanna play for him, and that's what's coming out of that clubhouse right now. Then that's a very interesting move for them too, because that now speaks to a lack of communication and a lack of understanding between the three entities which would be the clubhouse manager's office and the front office. Because if there's rumblings coming out of the clubhouse and that hasn't even made its way to the manager's office, there's no way the front office knows about it. And so the front office being the tip of the spear and shit rolling downhill jeered is going to make the move to secure their manager who they feel has done a good job for them up into this point. I'm the circumstances, so they hire or retain Kappler services again and then the clubhouses made aware of it. So that's the order of operation. And if the order of operation in having an issue with. Kappler goes clubhouse managers up this front office than what we're seeing a breakdown in that communication. If there are indeed folks in that clubhouse who feel like they'd be better served with somebody else if the front office is unaware of that to the point where they have gone out and committed another year to Kepler, there are bigger problems in Philly. That's the case. Yep. Did you speaking of I to do things. Did you see on fan graphs that Jeff Sullivan wrote that in the the era where they have defensive runs saved, which goes back to two thousand three. This current Phillies unit would be the worst. Yikes, that is somewhat surprising. Will you remember area does comments earlier in the year where he was like, we are the worst shifting team in the history of baseball said, and you know what. What. So the thing you gotta think about also is where has come from. He has seen bad defense. He has seen an inability to be positioned successfully. He now knows what it means to have ships working for him. He now knows what it means to have defense positioned correctly. So when he's not experiencing that, he is well within his right based on his status within the game and his status on that team. Just start that conversation between the coaching staff the front office, the evaluators, the data analytics groups, and the players. And that's what's happened, Dallas. I'm gonna give, you know, let's call thirty five seconds. How how is your experience being in the clubhouse for the as clinching a playoff berth. It was. It was great man. It was really seeing. Is there in the postseason now they're actually host postseason play? Yeah. No, no, no, it's the postseason is part of the playoffs. So for them to for them to find out that they were going to the playoffs while they were still on the field kind of cool because it's like, all right, you know, you're, it's, it's a cool moment. You're on the field and you figure out this is what it's all about. This is this is what we wanted to get done. So you fast word of the clubhouse. It was really cool. Just watching all these guys come in a lot of the younger guys who are kind of unsure on what to do, fuck it or not do with my hands, a lot of beer lot of shifting do we drink it? Do we throw it on people in my allowed to do it right now? Do I need to wait? And then you saw a lot of the veteran guys that have come in that have been added on. They just started losing their mind going nuts. So it was. It was really, it was really fun for me to watch those guys party and celebrate the way that they did knowing that they all really appreciate where they're at right now, and they understand what kind of hard work has gone into what they're doing. So it was. It was very deserving. Those young kids to to lose their shit. It was cold to see the veterans embrace him, but we done, you're, I know you got you gotta game. It's probable. You guys picked up a game. So it's game and a half now for homefield. Yes. Okay. So right now the Oakland a.'s game halfback of the Yankees for home field advantage and that wildcard game. I got a feeling probably gonna be in the Bronx. We'll see, but they do have the do have those three games against the Red Sox at Fenway. They have not just very well in the Red Sox are probably not going to go with their their B-team in that series because they're wanna stay hot for Tober. So things could actually who the Oakland a.'s finished with. The Oakland a.'s finish in Anaheim. I will be in Anaheim tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday. Will that team stinks? Yeah. Yeah, they're not good baseball now there. Yeah, this is actually the team. I believe we the last time around in the series scored. Thirty eight total runs against, I believe in in in a three-game series. So yeah, there's some folks this I'm looking for Katie to get to fifty Caraba. Mom play a little pepper. Ooh. Is that what we're calling it now? I think that's what we're calling it. It's better than let's let's hit subdues items really quickly that the first these real fast. That's not use me. That's me being a nerd trying to, oh, because it seemed like me now definitely. That's not a j.. All right. You guys got two minutes on you. Guys got two minutes on each of these because they tend to, they tend to not be rapid fire otherwise playing pepper. Otherwise you get tired out if you play for too long. Every baseball field ever played on had signs on it being like you can't fell pepper hitting balls into the fence. Anyways, Shohei Otani will be undergoing Tommy John surgery, which is not surprising. I don't think anyone was surprised by this. It was weird because angels fans got so defensive about this. When the early reports, I don't know month or two ago that he was going to need the surgery. Basically when he stopped pitching whenever that was that he was going to need the Tommy John surgery and then the angels. No, those reports are inaccurate and we're, he's still going to try and pitch this year and angels fans fake news. Everyone reported the Tommy John. That's irresponsible. Obviously he's gonna fucking need it. What are we talking about here? Like I, it was a foregone conclusion before the season even started that he was going to need Tommy John surgery at some point because of the ligament damage that every team knew about before they signed him, but it was worth it to sign him because he wasn't some big international free agent where you had to sign him to a hundred and fifty two hundred million dollar contract. You basically pay chump change to sign him. He got. His three years of service time before his arbitration eligible, three years, four years, arbitration. And then he becomes a free agent. He's no different than than drafting him. Us paid a little bit too, to sort of quote unquote draft him as a player. So even if you lose what you will lose him for all twenty nineteen as a pitcher and maybe even half of twenty twenty. It's still worth it because you'll have the second half at twenty twenty plus what three or four more years. That's so fucking. And he's still here to Bank crops. He's still, he's still here to roll the poll. Let's not forget about that in his while he was pitching. Three point, three one, six hundred K's ten games. So you know what? You're missing on the mound. He showed you those flashes, but think about what he means that this team offense as well, the bright spot and we'll get into Shohei Ohtani later in the season as we start our award season, I don't want to drop a bunch of numbers on you right now, but let's let me just tell you this that offense ably he has had in my opinion a better year this year in the big leagues, then he did in his best season in Japan. I don't know where you're going with that, but I agree with that. Yes. So what he can mean to this team moving forward, even though he's not going to be on the bump that something to, that's a place where the halo fans can hang their hat on. And we talked about time limit. So I didn't want to get into the numbers and shit and still not going to, but I just know that I have in bed. I've got those fucking numbers, but I'm not gonna day between the line. Yes, we're going to say though, so that's all I've got for now on my rookie. Shohei Ohtani. Go ahead. Next question. So you are voting for Otani. Let's that said, well, I didn't even want to get into that year. That's Jay. Do you have toddy as your rookie of the year? All I'm going to say is our awards podcast is going to be so fire flame. Oh, that's a big tease. That's. Sees I will probably do more preparation for that podcast than any podcast I've ever that is what I respect the most about j. motherfucker does not fight for free you. You want shot at j. l. c. at the paper view fight you free cable television. Does. He gives you insight to his angles? Nope. So we'll see at the orange. Oh. DD gregorious. So this wrist injury, you know, tears the cartilage in his wrist, and I kind of figured that he would play through this when Aaron Boone didn't just Ford Lee come out with this information in a press conference. It was almost kind of like leaked indirectly someone's like, oh, hey, where were you know, we were back there talking DD. Oh, what's going on with Didi torque Cardoza risk might be off the rest of your, what? What how do you not lead with that? And that's on the table. So that's why at first it can't be that bad if you never led with it, and he never just outwardly explain this to the media. So it's not a surprise to me. DeeDee will attempt to play through this that rest has helped a little bit. But I will say, you know, they've had like Mark DeRosa MLB network was on the other day talking about how he had the same exact injury, he felt up hop. Yep, rove home and was like, that's it. I play my last game this year, so that's that's the type of injury that we're talking about. So I don't think you're not out of the woods yet if you're Didi or if you're Yankee fan, but it's a good sign that he's going to, you know, do the cortisone shots response to that, but it's it's I don't want to say it's a ticking time bomb, but it kind of is kind of is God. You pray to God that his absence doesn't affect where the end up playing this wildcard game right now. That's that's what you're really hope does not happen corrobos because there are some numbers that I do want you to be aware of in regards to that in regards to this slide as we're seeing because that's how ended up hurting that wrist was on a slide at home, and now they've experienced a slide against Baltimore, barely sliding by two thirty three rabbits to thirty three. You wanna know what that is best. Let's let's these batting average on the road. He only has eight home runs compared to like what, like almost twenty. Nineteen. Those are at home nineteen homers of the twenty-seven have been hit. Yeah. At home in that fucking phone booth of fair's fair though. His splits were not as bad last year home road splits were. Yeah, let's talk. Let's talk what's splits look like in Oakland. Oh seventy. One zero. Seven one. We're not playing bingo fucker. That's batting average. Oh seven. One zero extra-base hits for d. gregarious. That's that's I. It's I can only imagine what would have said after the timer. One thing I this has nothing to do with the injury. But one thing I would like to note is that this marks yet another year we're DD. Gregorious increased is so much up and down and weird is the season was for him. Yeah, eight thirty. Four p. s. that's currently thirty eight points higher than it was last year every year that he's with the Yankees. Yep. Gone up every year. These of the Yankees. And when we were talking about Dede at the beginning of the year, I remember saying that this will be his first year with an opium north of eight hundred and he's what eight thirty four thirty four. There you go. Speaking shortstops speaking of shortstops Dan's be Swanson has a ligament tear, and the Atlanta Braves are not really sure if you will be able to play in the postseason, which fucking sucks because he's part of that young core there. You know, if you're gonna flaunt it when you when he starts to get on the national scale and they put together all those like cool video packages for the fans that haven't been following the Braves all year. They're gonna. There's a lot of talk about a Kuna. There's a lot of talk about Albee's nukem the baby Braves, but Dan's Swanson is certainly part of that baby Braves, core native of Georgia, getting to the playoffs with your with your hometown team. I hope that it's not as bad, but it sounds like it's, it's not very good. A ligament tear. No, no. What's between his between his ring finger and his wrist on his right hand, right. So talking about being able to throw the ball, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Charlie, colder Sohn is the individual who will be replacing him. And if you remember, Charlie Kober Sohn burst onto the scene last year in the ill CS replacing cedar five for eleven verse. The cubs in the l. c. s. but he's also the guy who's played left field for Kuni junior when Cooney was hurt earlier this year's you mentioned. So he's got some versatility to him and it's not like it's a complete negative with Culbertson the lineup. Now it's just not Danny Swanson who's been a big part of what the Braves of done. So hopefully he can reemerge again, but this fall around the table here. Does this prohibit the Braves from advancing in division series? No, no. I don't think so. I don't think so either it is a loss. It is not a crippling loss, Gabby we. We've been talking about this for like, I don't know. I feel like five weeks now gimme being out as the Blue Jays manager. It is now official. He will not be returning as the Blue Jays manager next year. I guess if there's a couple different ways that we can look, this was John Gibbons tenure as Blue. Jays manager will be looked back at as a success. And what direction do you think Toronto goes in now? Because the reds, I saw the list of candidates that the reds are looking to interview for manager, and it's very clear that they don't give a fuck about this trend of young managers. They don't give a fuck about that. Do you think that Toronto will buy into that or they're just kind of interviewing whoever's out there? I think Toronto will start to take a look at towards the more progressive approach of having some youth in that clubhouse in that driver seat because they mentioned parting ways with John Gibbons, partly due in part to his old school mentality. And I thought it was really cool that he and the GM sat down together and laid this out because too often you are given that. Lip-service about this big, a mutual decision. It's agreed upon, well, you actually kinda saw that you kind of felt that that, hey, I understand that I'm probably the old dog on the block, and I understand that these young kids might need a fresher voice. I also think I'm good guy who could be here a part of a rebuild, but I understand that my time, here's specifically maybe up and it might be better served for everybody involved to sort of be reinvigorated through a change of scenery and the front office said, thank you for closing out our twenty two year drought in the postseason your rallied a nation behind our ball club, we will ever be in debt for that, and it's not often in the game, a baseball. Do you get amicable parts from a front office and an old school manager, especially in this day and age. So it's good to see a front office tip their cap to one of the old Cowboys on his way out. If he indeed does not find another place, which I. He might to to answer your initial question which was how will the Aira of John Gibbons be viewed? I think it has to be viewed as a success to Dallas point. They broke the postseason streak. I think John Gibbons, like probably three quarters of managers in baseball gets exactly as much out of his team as the talent is on the roster, right. Yeah, not a lot more a lot less. And when this team had a lot of talent, they won ninety three games. They want eighty nine games the next year they went to the AL CS both years and as the talent has dissipated and impart. That's been a lot due to health of the pitching staff, but is the onfield talent has dissipated. The winds have declined ninety three to eighty nine to seventy six seventy two right now with with three games remaining. The one thing. The one thing I do want to say about him just because it is my duty to defend the old dogs. It is my duty to defend the keepers of the game, him being the old guy him getting that label. Roquan Yuli gurriel had mentioned going through a struggle earlier in the season. John Gibbons was the individual who was responsible for bringing him out of that funk by virtue of put his arm around him, letting him know just reminding him, hey, buddy. Take a look around this, the fucking big leagues you deserve to be here. Why don't you go out there next up inning with a smile on your face and remember how much fucking fund this is to play. And he mentioned that in a interview and actually like steered the interview in that direction because he felt so strongly about that and very young kid to have that feeling that impression from an old manager, that's a big deal because that young kid, you'll you real tapped into some advice that was given to him by his father. Years ago, and it took that old guard that old keeper of the game to put his arm around him to remind him this game is still fun, and you're still the fucking man. So it's it's not like he's washed up and beyond his years. Again, just a change of scenery. I think like that take. We can move onto Roberto who SUNA reaching a plea agreement. They also booed this shit out of Iran, oh, which I happen to particularly enjoy. I mean, fuck that guy. The whole thing about you. You know, the fact that there's no criminal charges does does not mean that the person is absolved of guilt, and we talked about this on dial Dallas. Brayden. How I feel about this is that if MLB felt comfortable enough to punish him to the fullest extent of their domestic abuse policy, they weren't doing that on here. Say they weren't doing that. Without good enough reason to do it. You don't just throw an eighty game suspension at a guy on rumors. There had to been something that they either saw or they read or they listen to that said, you know what? Fuck this guy were sticking them with the fullest penalty that we can give for this violation. I got to tell you the last seventy two to maybe ninety six hours for me have been. Been a world wind of a motion in regards to shit like this, and I'll get into this on dial with db, but I almost start to think now have leagues and their approach to to criminal behavior or anything has shown a light on how fucked up our Justice system actually is win. As you mentioned jeered a league is punishing somebody right to an extent further than the actual legal system that our country is supposed to be abiding by is that what sport is doing is showing us how our country is. Well, let me get back to me having seen a former teammate of mine in airport and posting a picture because I hadn't seen this dude in over fucking ten years. I did see that and Milton Bradley and I had no clue really clue, zero clue. Do you understand like for me, obviously, young kid, twenty four, a rookie. I was. Paying the internet wasn't what it was. Then I wasn't paying attention to anything that Milton was doing like it's not like Milton and I were hanging out off the field going to dinner and shit. He was just he was a hard ass and a salty vet knowingly. So who who was really nice to me who just was a nice guy to me joke with me. And so our relationship or my relationship with him very brief was just different. So when I saw him, it all came flooding back like him talking shit to be on the field talking shit to be the clubhouse talk shit about the game and shit, and then like the conversation comes up and sure I do the homework and I start to look at some of the shit that he's gone through and I'm like, Jesus Christ. Man. Like I knew about like some of the stuff that he had dealt with mentally, but I didn't know anything about his transgressions if you will, with his with his previous spouse. In current spells, I still don't know anything about, and I'm like, it's just not my not my area. So. But the bottom like I will. I take like you don't put your fucking hands on a woman, homey periods, straight the fuck up. Like I'm not on board with that entity point in time. So getting now into sooner to your point him not being punished legally, but baseball, taking the stance you knew it was going to be impactful in that clubhouse. And I think a tip of the captured go to the Houston, Astros veteran stewardship all a a Justin Verlander and even guys like altuve AM. Sure. And other individuals who have done a great job of making sure that this did not sidetrack this club. Yeah, very easily could have been done sure. Could've Addison Russell also speak in a dish bags unlikely to reduce to rejoin the cubs for the postseason which is not surprising to me whatsoever. Little backstory here if you're not familiar. So his ex wife. Last year posted a picture on Instagram and the caption was along the lines of, you know, feels great to not get cheated on anymore, something like that. So she only talked about getting cheated on one of her close friends commented on the photo and implied that there was also physical abuse. She deleted the entire post and after I think Addison Russell had to release a statement saying, this is not true. The league tried to conduct an investigation and his ex wife did not want to comply with that. Shouldn't wanna help out with that, which is totally her right to do that. It does not mean that she's full of shit if she doesn't. If she chooses not to help out with the investigation. So then fast forward to about a week ago and his wife, ex wife, posted a blog detail in all kinds of bad shit for Addison Russell. We're talking physical abuse. We're talking emotional abuse where talking. Anything that you can really do to a woman that you can be a scumbag for? It seems like he did it. I mean, he was and the timing corrobos and the timing of this is this is this is calculated my friend and I'm not. I'm not knocking anybody for that. I'm just I'm just bringing that to light. This is calculated the cubs in the biggest part of their season right now get hit with this, get hit with Addison Russell and this shit. Now, like that's the kind of stuff that does affect clubhouses because now somebody has to come up in front of the club Alison talk about this. We have to address this. We have to address how we're going to move forward. You don't know about the chemistry and what that's like. Now that is changed. There's there's a lot that goes into this coming to light right now, but it all boils down to hopefully. This person hopefully his ex wife or you're not divorced yet, are they know they are? Oh, they are. Okay. So hopefully his ex wife. Is able to find yourself in a position where she can continue to get the help that she needs to get over these things or get through these things or make these things better. Because I mean, there's just no making light of what situations like this can do to individuals mentally. So I think most importantly, you hope that she can find a way to be okay in her life. And if you're out of San Russell, probably probably some time to reflect always some time to to look within and yourself. Right. Stitch fix is an online personal styling service that fines and delivers clothes shoes and excess Sary's to fit your body budget and lifestyle. 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Postseason as we said at the beginning of the show, it's not quite yet upon us, but I, I hope that there's not never mind. I do hope that there's some kind of Corky fucked up situation where we have like multiple one game playoffs to get into the one game playoff I wou I ever for chaos Dallas. I am rooting for chaos. So you know, obviously the brewers are my National League team will get to the brewers a little bit. I've also adopted the Rockies as my NL west team. They are wreaking havoc right now the starting nine digital show Mrs. Dallas Brayden because I've got this fucking idiot hubs. Seven on the digital show who wrote off the Rockies after they got swept by the dodgers and I was like, do the team destiny, don't do it. Don't do it. You'll regret do note that they got swept CHAD'S shut the. Fuck up the Rockies are the team of destiny in the National League West. I don't know how many times have to say it before you get into your thick book and skulls out there. The Rockies are not going to roll over and die for you. They're going to fight until they don't have any airlift in their breath. That is what this team is. This year. They finish with the nets who they happen to be three and one against on the season for office. That's pretty good. You gotta like we're that's heading shared it. The dodgers the dodgers finish with the giants who they happen to be seven and nine against on the year. So you like hell that shapes up. So can I just propose something because this is a very good idea that why p came up with this morning when I got, I never get here before noon, but I came in this morning and it's more like a chill relaxed environment. Me and why p were shooting the shit about baseball. And he said, what about in September? If you can make trades on technicalities? So what if as incentive for the cardinals to get the giants to play to actually try against the dodgers. What if they could trade like a prospect? If on the off chance, you have to win at least two out of three and you get this prospect. I'm like that idea. Like if you're if you're a team that's just fucking out of it and you're just end model. This is like a this is like in game achievements. Yeah. Like like you unlock this unlocking an ultimate team and ultimate team plan if the cardinals are like, all right, we'll do like a player to be named later. You pick from this pool of five players or whatever. And if you win two out of three or better in that series, you get the player like this would never happen. This is a wild while it's working right here. What I'm getting ready to say, not what we are currently talking about. Yeah, I'm just going to lay this out there just to give a tengible feel to the idea that would be like the Oakland a.'s saying to the Boston Red Sox Heo. We gotta lefty down in AAA by the name of, hey, Seuss Lazardo who strikes out people in his sleep. If you guys could just see to it that we actually play this playoff game at home was Ardoz all yours. That's essentially how this boils down. And I don't mind that at all. I don't mind it at all because it is an opportunity to see who really does believe in the idea of them being a team of destiny because I would love to see the Rockies right now or over a prospect to make sure to make sure that they're the team standing at the end of this can think like because right now right now with three games left, some teams have four. We could be seeing some of the craziest shit go down in GM offices across the gate. It would be lunacy kind of because people would your entire GM. Ship your entire tenure could be defined in the last forty, eight hours of a September playoff run. That's fucking insane. And the caveat has to be that the prospects cannot impact the Kurt race. Right? Would have to be the deal. We can't bring these guys up. They can't be a part of. That's not. This is you're just getting a piece now and would there even be a contingency where or like a, let's let's throw out an end to this. Is it a prospect? No higher than AA? Is it a prospect because how bad do you want get a prospect? Yeah. Is it a process? Exactly. So if you're giving me prospects that have major league time, like there's gotta be something more to that, you know, like if I'm gonna give you a guy who's already got tick, will that's gonna cost you or could be like international pool space. Yeah, that could be very interesting casket. Could be anything into amid to it, like p? Yeah, it's it's a very good idea from from y. p. who's he's? He's a little upset about his cardinals. He's a little upset about his cardinals, who became the story of the middle of the summer there for a little bit. What are they came arbiter, even have back carpenter was making salsa. People were eating it and hitting homers the young pitching staff, the four rookies the four rookie horsemen. Yeah, we're slicing and dicing of. He said they choked. I said, you just ran into the brewers. That's two different things. Those are two different things. What happens is you're in to the NL MVP? Yes. Lap. Did that thing is or or did you tune in the word show podcast? Yes, yes. Tickle the balls, tickle the ball loose to say. Might not be. I don't know. We have a word out yet. That's true. Tune? It's. That's what happened is they ran into, they had into fucking caught out there, bugging in Milwaukee, and he's so unassuming to like, he's, I don't even think he fully understands the scope of of what's going on. So no, he doesn't solely what we're what we're looking at is the cards. The cardinals dodgers in Rockies are basically trying to see who's going to play either the cubs. Yeah, just for clarity. The cartels are a game back, not a game and a half. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I mean, what's also what's nuts to think about is one of these two teams could go from potential division winner to potential early vacation. It's could go as much potential. I can't fucking wait. I can't winning the division to fuck in making travel plans. Yes, hold on because we're going to straight. No doesn't blinds baseball. That's what we're looking at here. So you have right now. The Braves are obviously in the brewers clinched. They're going back to the postseason and the analyst is just up the air up in the air dodgers Rockies it's it's going to it's a dog fight for the NFL west. It's a dog fight for the NL central, and it's a dog fight for the second wildcard spot. Man, I guess let's butts send it to the panel here. How do you think that those three spots fill out. I've got Colorado taken the west. Yep. I have got. I've got the cubs playing. I really want to be playing the cardinals. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't think they are. I think the cubs will be playing. 'cause don't the cubs play the cardinals to finish? Yes, yes. It would have to be a four-game sweep. Yeah, for the carton. Right? Not yeah, not happening. Dodgers are gonna win the west. I've stuck by that the whole time, and I like how their rotations lining up to this weekend. We got Kershaw on Saturday and we got bueller on Sunday bueller you'll learn. I do like that. I mean, listen, if you if you drew it up, that's how you drew it up for the dodgers and I think they're going to they're going to pull it out. I think the cardinals are on the outside looking in. I think the San Francisco Giants safe buck that we've had the dodgers shitting are serial way too many times it's time for us to take a swat over that cereal bowl. That's what I feel. I think the dodgers are super bad and won't stand in the way. Also I do not. Like the way that the pitching probables lineup for the cardinals against the cubs. See the cardinals is out there who's your wildcard game? Ocoee signings. Rocky's Bru, which I think would be fantastic wildcard game in the Burs winning central. That's just I want to take the time to apologize to big cat as well. I inadvertently sent out a tweet yesterday talking some shit on the on the total accident. It was supposed to be urging tweet for the for the as and they did rally at that same times. So I did just want to send out another future apology for any other mistake in tweets, and that might demean the cubs, but it's an effort to rally the as Paul big of you Dallas that's big of you. I respect that a lot about that. We, we try if if you look at the not just the probables, but just just the matchups here between the teams that are finishing out their seasons with each other. The brewers are winning the fuck central. They are. The cubs are just backpedaling. The cardinals are not going to go down without a fight and the brewers. I feel like they're just hungrier. They're more confident. The cubs are backpedaling right now. Are you guys looking at the match ups? It's Hendrix Wainwright, hamels Michaels, and then tentatively scheduled as flare ity Montgomery. So I'll give all give the first tilt to the cubs Bill, like the second one's up in the air, nNcholas? Yeah, he's been. He's been getting not as good in the second in who was. Who's who's well Flaherty Montgomery probably favors their cards. Right? Yeah, sure. So. A lot. That's that's two out of three per the cards. It'd be can little magic. You get three out of three, and then he got some mo- Joe, and that's four out of forty, five yourself in the book debts, find yourself there, you know, scarves, and notes. You do know who the brewers are finishing the season against correct. I believe the brewers finish against the lowly ale, central Detroit tight, they sure do Dallas about that. I find that to be quite interesting that to be about assault is a fucking landing. As you can find. Look at j you wanna talk about shit shaping up. You're playing the fucking grace closes thing out. You haven't seen this club all year. They're terrible. And that is who you're postseason life tinged upon, which is like two final note to. No, go ahead. It's at home. It's Milwaukee. The brewers winning the central. The brewers are winning the central that is statistical fact. There's okay. They are winning the NL central. That's I will not go with their winning the central. They're winning the NFL central. If there was that you thought could be one today, which one would it be in by who. It isn't like what team could put the dagger in it. We'll see your that was a joke, and you were just supposed to keep rolling with it, but you and that's, it went over your head. No, no, this is not a one thing. This is this is. The brewers are winning the NL central. Are you you're not with me on this. With James j. I mean, if I had to put money on it, I would put the cubs, but I don't think you're like crazy person. I think it's I, I, if I like their chances more than I liked the rocks really, I'm not. I'm not in on this Rockies thing with you guys. Why? Because I stood by the dodgers all season long and that's, that's his stubbornness that's not stubborn. Actually the three best pitchers lined up to pitch this weekend with you included. Oh, the dodgers do? Yes. Team destiny. Nobody cares. There's nobody cares. Stat, boy. You've heard of destiny kicked quantify that. No, you can't. You can't prove that it doesn't exist either though part, you really can't fucking yesterday button on your calculator. The Braves still have a chance for best record in the NL. Correct? Yes. Okay. So that's still on the table, man. I'm ready for a while be while baseball. I'm ready for a wild weekend. Baseball. The AL field is set though, aside from wherever the fucking wild card games being played, we'll we'll have plenty of AOL talk once the the playoffs get started, but there's there's no drama. Really. You know, everyone's in best records, say the only it's not drama. It's just where where the Oakland a.'s play, that's that's not. That's not dramatic. We know where they're gonna play coming over here for that. That you're fucking sweet s. This is going to be like when Kane and the undertaker finally got together to to take out like stone cold, Steve, Austin. It is. It is. Oh, right. Yeah, it is. It is bad news. It is bad hopes better hubs better. Fucking run. Oh, do we know where hopes lives? Do we know where hubs Ray take a three hour bus to get here. Doesn't it? Yeah. He lives in Guantanamo Bay. She's rice. Yeah. Why sways age so poorly? Yes, terribly even out even go as far as they terribly okay. Without further ado, this is quite today. I could hear you smile and quite day. Rocky. The first ever interview that I've ever done with David Ortiz. My hero, a Red Sox legend, a Boston icon. He's on starting nine. He loves Dallas Brayden. In here. David ortiz. I were here David Ortiz, big Papi before we started recording David and Dallas talking about how much David Ortiz loves Chris Davis. I'm never gonna hear the end of this now because this guy, all he talks about is the as I live with this dude every single day. He's hyping up the, they're actually a very good team. I hope that you make it to the division series David. If if you have a Red Sox as matchup in the division series, who do you like bro? We honest with you. I saw all the as plays against Boston, this regular season, you know what to expect. They are similar teen. The how often they have pitching and they have so many young talent. I mean, you go to the rest of you be like, oh, we got movie, but they got Davis. Yeah. And then you go to the restaurants. Oh, we got AD Martinez, and then they had this big boy left in the Chapman, not Olsen. Models and bro like, and then you go to the pitch, man. I mean, it's it's very similar, but the thing is that scares me the most, how the as. They are heating like they are planning on the east coast field and to be on with you to heat at Auckland. It's impossible like if you don't know if you go to the weather over there, help me on my help me out with that. The weather over there. I used to hate it to go and play Oakland. I mean they had huge feel and then you never know if the always gonna fly of the ball. I mean most likely the boat don't go away over there. Now these I mean, look at this maniac that they have Davis. He people not paying attention to that kid probably because he's opened a west coast. He forty bombs in a hundred years in a row closing on fifty, right? Forty, six. He's supposed, he's closing in on fifties. Forty seventy. Just hit another tank last night. Bobby forty-seven to them thing. I'm telling you. He swing a, he don't care. Yeah, everywhere he heating bowl everywhere. Like I mean, Buddha kid on a field. I hit an east coast and that'll be like seventy bombs because that's what I'm telling these guys. Pompton Oakland. New York does not want any part of Oakland in the wildcard game out in New York and that fucking phone booth. No chance throw part of these tiling you. I wasn't as plays man and they play like they don't care. They come in to whoop you. You know what? And let's roll. That's how they I. I watched him play and I was like, man, this thing real. This is for real right here. Them when how much preparation did you do as a hitter? Was it based on just it didn't matter who the pitcher was or would you look at the the problem pitcher, douse Brayden it'd be like, I don't have to. Do any work today, you homework again, anybody because everybody, everybody, because the thing is on your best day you go for as deal were there? Will he feel the jets take him deep? No, we didn't fail. We. We didn't show the much. We put a couple of bad against, but we. But we. Yeah, but I can tell you about. Had no damage against me, but they're like, I felt like there were times I just could not get poppy out. I couldn't get you out, but I was like, you know what? If he's if he's not making three left turns than it's a win for me, if he doesn't visited onto wave land, I've won. Let me tell you what I love about him when he picked. He don't have day. Listen, he didn't have you see this key from Tom, but right now snow, it's knows no. How ninety miles an hour? Will he had a close? He fight differently gyp pity's this guy right here. We had the Pelotas. Yeah, I liked he body language like people are battling with, no, I'm coming to get you if you if you want to do something about it do it, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna show you that I'm gonna come to get you. That's how he pitched. And I love her though. You don't say. So that was the only way to that was the only way to attack these guys because you, I mean the veteran lineup that I was going against when poppy was there. That's a different ballgame. Because these guys before I even got to the plate, not that they had already saw their video and done their homework. They knew what I was capable of what I was a capable of into get hall of fame, caliber players out. You can't go out there and second guess yourself. You got to say, here's my nuts. This is the best I've got. Let's see what you got. That's how it was. I always appreciate the guy that there's not fake other they, this is what I am you like it or. No, I'm not here to my friend on here to do my job. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I like to go by business. You don't saying by reality is you gotta do homework about everybody because like I say, hey, you can go awful teddy in a heartbeat. Yep. Yeah, that's that's fine game. It's like it's like on your best day pitcher, you facing this line of that is not attacking all of a sudden they scored Tanner for you. That's how he goes, man, you gotta be on top of your game all the time. You're three sixty four career hitter against Dallas. By the way. All singles, all singles. Let's keep up blueprints. I wanna ask you man. Just because obviously you've had such a tremendous career in a great ride from your time in Minnesota to who you became to win. Papi showed the fuck up in Boston. I wanna know raw talent. 'cause you talked about Chris Davis and being able to identify like how crazy it is, what he's doing. Aside from him, what is gimme a name of a guy that you saw might have been even back home in a lot of publica, but you're saying to yourself, you know what this dude right here. This is a talent that I just have never seen before a raw talent. This guy is mind blowing, wow, he is open my eyes who who is somebody like that? Or who was somebody like that for you back in the day? Look, I I play with so many guys and reality that in baseball, some some guys had very talented, but the lack of paternity sometime play a role in and the gay and. And there's a lot of talent sometime I get to be laws because of the lack of paternity. That's something that as a player you can control, you don't say by, for example, I I was though star game a nice oldest guy, first baseman for the brewers. I. So this guy. My last year plane. We play against Cleveland in I on dugout and he was hitting biting practice, and that's a player dollars. You've known you have did the the knowledge to know when a guy have that good delivery superior when a heater, how some split him to is coming out. He's bad when he debates with. I mean, you can see that because we don't have to work for NASA to know that the baseball players when you play in the bigly. So I'm watching this guy hit and unlike men, this guy, they don't play this guy here, but this guy potential. I mean, they, he have a lack of paternity over there. All of a sudden he traded to to to Milwaukee and look what he's doing. I was watching all star game. And I was very happy because everytime I see tuition like that picture myself in play Minnesota have a lack of -tunities even when I first into the wrist socks, I wasn't a guy that every day, but something happened. They give me the opportunity and then a sudden I wasn't alive for fifteen years. You don't say is hard work, man. It's not the house because there's no magician here. Older people can predicting they're gonna happen, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to be that way by. There's a lot of guys out there. They get the paternity to play day, appreciate it in they go at it so that they get a pretended to play from the very beginning and they think that's normal and all of a sudden day into losing their job. You know, go back and forty sold depending how home you are and how will you wanna be doing some work with Sharon, tell us what you do. Sharon. I'm gonna spokeperson for certain I I won't vacation. Oh, baby, we got you. We got, you know that. I, I join a couple of months ago. I'd being so much fun. You know, we get some of the fans to take around the city of Boston. You know how sort of called a CD, you know, and Cheriton they wanna make sure that people get to know the unbelievable Joe that they are doing with their hotels. They had this align hotel. There are joined them Marya. I mean, they can tell you tons of different name renaissance that is part of the line of the church, family and man. Let me tell you. I mean, I me when I go to a hotel, you know, I wanna make sure that I have a nice, you know, and I wanna make sure that when once I'm the facility people, you know, help me, I would things just walk last night into a hotel right here. Not Terekhov and he was like a drink three where it was so nice. You know, I mean, the the the the facility was really good. They even give. They even give me a free tickets for during the hotels give before was like, boom, I'm on. New York poppy if they're handing out free shit, New York, that'd be careful. Goes down right. So I gotta ask you because this is a question that's been debated for while now about like the greatest Red Sox team of all time. If this Red Sox team in twenty eighteen, they have the franchise record for most wins. If they win the World Series, is that the greatest Red Sox team of all time or is, is there another team in there that stands out to you? Hey, result are the ones that give you the honor to be who you going to be that team Dominy wings in winning the World Series. I mean, what else can you say? But doesn't the fact that the four team like nothing can top that because the burden that they had to face with eighty six year World Series drought because I think what you guys won ninety eight games that year. I don't think that the regular season win total matters. Like there's nothing that could ever top you'll for. I don't. I don't really like to discredit the job that anybody normally do. We did a great job back then we basically. Break, occurs people cold it. I don't think it was a curse I it was. I think it was just everybody get lined up saying and the same direction because we noticed that after the two thousand three season that we were good. Now, let's execute a teen. That way. We have different result and the following season Bom. It happens. You know what I'm saying? But a little bit more luck. You know what I'm saying by? I always believed that the history in the gain never gonna change. People just going to keep them not in things of the gang. And I know that division this year. Wasn't that good. You see how Baltimore less what one hundred eleven games. Yeah, hundred twelve game. I had never play during the year that I play a had never seen board to play Dr bad. Yeah. You don't say it only sixty and a half games back. Two. Two months out of I two. I mean, they were out what youn-. Yeah, I think they were out of it would pitchers catchers, reported. I never seen a Baltimore team playing better fat. Boating was the competition while I play. And then you go to Toronto, Toronto wars winning going into the playoff while I play multiple don't was like like playing against the Yankees playing against the Red Sox plant Toronto was there in the competition. You see, how breakdown this year Tampa. I had to give so much credit to cash the manager for for for for the race, man. I mean. They, he have a whole group. Hold young kit trying to figure things out. And they, we have play this year. That'd be unbelievable. Man, I got. I gotta give you that. And then they had this kid Snell. I saw him when I was on my last year. A nine. Oh, for fact that that key was gonna be special embroiled. Listen. I'm so glad that I've retired. I keep pitching to the day and I was like, wow, plus, like like, even when you are watching the game on TV is I mean, d- you told me we have a different view to watch the game because we played the game is the knowledge is different. Like when I'm watching the game, I, I watched like I'm in it and I watched his keep pitching today. The way he hide the ball. He's FOSS, pulled away. Just come to the strike zone. He's breaking ball. He. I mean, he got me buckling up and I'm watching the game on TV though. Yeah, you're following along in the sequences. You're going fastball up here comes that yet yet. You. Oh, Donna, d. Oh. Do you don't say like, it's fun to watch. You know, what is good is fun. I mean, he might be decide John Lee. Yeah, a, he played for the team probably not not going to be in the playoff right now. So they're in the National League. They would be like first place say so. So that tells you, you know how complicated these games? Yeah, you don't saying so. I think if the guy come into the playoffs, the rest are come to the playoff in day. The the. If they dominate the way they have regular season. Hey, can I be questionable because you talked about the as the Red Sox and the and the raise who you got is the ale manager of the year of those guys. That's what it's gonna come down to that group. Look, man, Eddie division that they go between those three. Is good to me because. When you go to the as man and you look at the way they have played a game the way they had done things. You need to have a goo- head for that to happen in that goes to the manager. Yep. And then you go to Alice Cora who as a first year managers going for the record book. Getting sation wise died special, and then you go to Tampa where we A-Team wasn't in the map Luca world play. Right. And then you think about the knowledge that cash highs, that's a manager. That's the only way you can keep Grupo kit together a level. So it's looking good to me any aggression to be honest. And the last question that we asked to all of our guests is if you could go back in time to witness any moment in baseball history, live in person, what would it be. You can pick one of your own. You can go back before you were born any moment? Baseball history. A have to be. When Bo Jackson walk all over the wall. Yeah. So I wasn't a golf tournament day we boat for Chris Tucker Coletta. Yeah. Even in this day when you look at both Jackson, it's impressive. He's a moose. Yeah, I'm, I'm telling you a, he can't be poppy. What am I coming to go for? Do you go to undermine like bowl right now, bro? Let's do it. He's impressive man, but I think he was one of the best athletes play the game ever, you know, and and and be able being able to watch a guy like him play a game. I mean, we have so many great athletes right now. I don't know. Man, Bo Jackson was something that I. It was. It was free, right? Ri. Right? So I, I will pay to going washing played again the way he used to play the game. Love that answer, David, Ortiz, a legend in the building. Thank you so much for joining us here today. Thank you. I big thanks to big Papi, David Ortiz coming on starring I, I didn't know that like you liked you like that. Pissed me off. I could see the see the disdain on your face. This is my day, like, you know, not supposed to like, don't like him. That's it's the brotherhood, you guys all the former players they stick together. And once you're not on the field of competition anymore, it's you guys are all just fucking boys and you know what, you know what was good to hear is because a lot of times it gets translated differently or it can come across differently depending on the personality of the other individual. But for him, not to look at me and think that I was a complete asshole and for him to kind of understand where I was coming from. And you know, as you said, you play against each other and you get a feel so. Yeah, that was that was good here. 'cause a lot of people I've had a lot of people that have said, like, bro until I met you, like I just wanted to fuck in fight you every minute of every day for how you or on the mound. And I took that as I wore that as a badge of honor, like off. Good. I'm glad because you know, I didn't have anything else like in the arsenal, right? Like this is all I is just not give. That's what happened when when Dave Portnoy came to me and we were talking about starting, is I who do you want co-hosts? He's gimme a list of people. And as I don't really know, like I don't know anyone nationally. I just know bossa people in us. Like what about douse Brayden I was like, isn't that guy? Just angry all the time? Think you'd be a good fit with you? All right. Let's try it out. See if it works and here we are sixty one episode later interviewing David Ortiz. That's right. Eight away from sixty nine speaking of interviews. Yeah, the right hire can make a huge impact on your business. That's why it's so important to find the right person. Where do you find that individual? You could try posting on the job boards, but can you really be sure the right person sees your job instead find the person who will help you grow your business with Lincoln as the world's largest professional network. 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We keep doing this thing where we roll out new segments like crazy. Yes, hot. And that comes from the brain of Justin havens our beloved producer the hardest working man in the business. The brilliant mind that keeps Dallas and I on the right track every single week for this podcast. I don't know why this is just popped into my head though the as need to win that wildcard game the as to win the wild card game, not because I'm afraid of the Yankees, but because of the content that Dallas and I will be able to put forth during that series. We'll be unprecedented. Gold mine. I gold. I wanted to live shows. I wanted to a live show in Boston. I want to live show and Oakland. I compared it to biggie and pock turing together and doing a duet together on the east coast and the west coast. The crowds would be, I mean, Dallas, you be quite polarizing in Boston and vice versa. And Oakland. I've already gotten some of the heat and Oakland though back out and in April when I was out there and as fans were, were shouting me down from the field. Now, now is the most he'll heat, I think I've ever gotten a fringe lead frenzied group. You're that's a good. They're not angry their friends and they don't as fans do it a little differently as you felt the minute that they lay eyes on you physically, they will. You cannot escape their crossers. They will follow you in hunt you every waking minute in person online. Not so much, not a huge. Not a huge attack base. That's not how they roll. It's on how we do at NorTel. It's just not. But yeah, it's more of a in the street type of approach and and you don't say far less threatening. So it's a, yeah, I tell you there's been talk that African warlords drug lords are willing to sit over their armies to try to extrapolate the blood diamonds of content that we would be putting forth. How should this that's posted this come to fruition. So the new segment, the Jarrett's referring to kiss him goodbye. We have three legends of the game stepping away for various reasons. We're going to start with David Wright. Obviously he's having his send off. I don't really want to get into the captain's music right there. What the editing process is for. You know that we should also do like a segment within a segment called, how will the Mets? Fuck this up? I would like to you know what I'm not going to use. You guys can respond however you want. I'm not going to use my time on David Wright to talk about the shitty wilpon okay. No me neither. I'm gonna talk about David right because at one point I have I have no connection to the Mets. Okay. At one point, David Wright was my favorite baseball player year. We're talking like the prime minister the oh six to eight run David like it's so far removed that people are going to end up forgetting. But I would like to remind folks that his prime with longer than this but his uninterrupted prime two thousand five to eight which is age twenty two to twenty five seasons. We just thought he was getting going on a hall of fame career. His average year was three. Eleven three ninety four five thirty four. That's nine twenty eight. Oh PS with twenty nine homers twenty two stolen bases. One hundred. Twelve RBI one hundred six runs per year. He averaged at one point he put up eight wins above replacement in two thousand seven and followed up the next year with seven. David Wright was on a hall of fame trajectory before injuries derailed his career. He's the greatest Mets position player of all time. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that there's the arguing that I really don't. I know a lot of love. A lot. A lot of love gets thrown to of. Got wind my fucking lanky on his name right now. The fucking first baseman. Oh, through. He's. Yeah. Didn't he win. Yes, he did. Yeah, but he'd be a great met. Yeah, I mean he, yeah. No, I'm not saying it wasn't a great met, but I mean, is MVP was with cardinals. People forget. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm whatever. Yeah, memories taking a little bit of a hit in the last five to ten minutes. Dave, Dave, David, right. The reason this do needs to be celebrated is because when young guys show up to a clubhouse and they're looking for a lighthouse meeting, they're looking for someone to show them the way David Wright as been that guy since he walked into that clubhouse, even as young, even as young himself and to go through a deal with the injuries that he's dealt with and the circumstances in which he has played his career under for him to still mean into still be the guy that he has been for the guys that have come through that door for him to be as professional as he's been in the Todd Frazier acquisition and like there's just not a better example of how to be a franchise guy going and. David Mann, just just thank you. Thank you because Jay being on your train tells us two things or at least confirms two things for us. One, you absolutely were the greatest met to strap it on and to Jay. Being the cardinal fan that he is. Each just a bandwagon bitch. That's that confirms that. That's that's grass. Sorry about that. J. interesting. David, right through age thirty season among third baseman to debut in the integration era. Okay. Okay. Eighth in wins above replacement, the only guys ahead of him. Eddie Mathews, Ron. Santo George, Brett, Mike Schmidt, Wade, Boggs buddy. Bell and Scott Rolen. Pretty good. Wow, not good. I mean is everyone here's favorite David Wright moment the game three World Series home run. I'm just fucking gladdy. Got that. You know if nothing else in post injuries in and all that. I'm just glad that he got that one moment where the Mets got to the World Series. It was the game that they won and he contributed in a big way. And then like that one Mets home when they talk about David Wright and the kids at never got to see him play. That's probably one of the first images that you're gonna see, Dave right home run the World Series. Let me ask you. This is David Wright. Does his experience of getting back on the field this final time? Is that more poignant than any other moment in his career because he didn't win a World Series. I mean, if if he fucking hits a home run or something like that. I mean, how are we not talking about one moment in baseball history? If he hits a Homer, you take him out of the game. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Homer, you'll let them go back on defense. Yeah, and you take him out of the game? Yeah, no. Just have just have everybody meeting, but home plate do one of those things where they lift the guy up and then just literally lift him into the Doug Rudy is just like literally just to have his teammates, carried him off the field. In the third inning of like. Three to one game or whatever, and they're playing the Marlins too. So you have to be some kind of assault and not groove him a first pitch fastball. Like the Marlins have nothing for nothing. So if you're not grooving him, fuck in four seamer right down the dick. You are an asshole, sir. The ID David. Yeah, I need. We all need El capitain drop in diesel. Yeah, victim Artigas another guy. There is bidding farewell to major league baseball. What I would say probably one of the most underrated careers out of all the guys that have played through this generation or two generations really. He's right up there with with the best switch hitters in the game. Never quite got to that World Series though. I know seven with Cleveland got close, ran into the Red Sox didn't happen for them. And then in Detroit, you know, there was no championship glory for v mart in Detroit, but where would you would you rank victim are tina's amongst the switch hitters that he played with this generation. Ooh. I mean Val TRAN dally out of them ahead of you could just take Bill trans postseason in. You know what I mean? Bill like this is this is all save for for VR as far as a switch hitter concern or come in. In. The fucking Puma. Tax v mart was an extremely tough at bat because of his awareness of strike zone like he had a ridiculous field for his own and could spoil spoil spoil spoil shit. Y'all do dead pop as well. You know what I mean? Like we're talking. I don't know if you ever hit thirty, but he did hit thirty. Two home runs in two thousand fourteen his age thirty five season. Yeah, that was his best year. Yeah, he, he was always like, I just remember again, this is me. So I mean, fuck the bat. Boys were tough at bats. But he just he was a guy who could, like I said, he's the guy who I appreciate hitters who have the ability to spoil good pitches and a pitch that they can handle. And he is one of those guys. He was a guy because I mean, I faced him. He was, I believe, I believe he was. I don't know. He was in front of Mickey. I think he was behind McGee actually, and he was just part of that whole life in a lineup type thing. That's what v mart kind of did for that for that team. But he was a, he was a power threat. And again, the strike zone awareness was for me. Second victim Artnews that two thousand fourteen season three thirty five batting average that is the in MLB history. That is for a guy thirty eight thirty five or older. That's the fifth best batting average by switch it or ever really Chipper Jones in eight Mickey mantles in there. Well, no thirty eight thirty five or older. Oh, connects mic already had psoriasis of the liver. I think by thirty five Chipper Jones three sixty four max Carey in nineteen twenty five three forty three. And then both Passat and Chipper Jones seven. Those are the only people had of him Sada I always forget about Passat Avena switch hitter or hey, yeah. Always remember him more from the left side guy. Hawk Harrelson you can put it on the. Yes, he's gone. Yes, he is. He's a legendary broadcaster. And we we've talked about this before about how the the cornerstone team broadcasters becoming a lost art and that you know, no one will ever be VIN Scully known will ever come close to like the Audi fucking years. Was he in the booth? Like seventy seventy five. He's the goat. But yeah, there's the, it's a lost art now. And I feel like a lot of these broadcasters that are coming in. They're, they're young bucks. And I think the whole point is to try and make them be the next VIN Scully which I mean, if you're going to be the next VIN Scully, you got to get in there pretty young. So maybe they become that. But right now, you know the game losing hawk Harrelson's voice. That's that's a big loss. Yeah, I remember you know, if I once I started getting MLB TV in two thousand in ten or eleven back then out switch the broadcast the White Sox broadcast sometimes just to just to go back and watch the home run calls like I would go back to wash the home run calls when when Meinie went to the White Sox, I started like that was really when, like, you know, hawk became one of my personal favorites. Yeah. Yeah. I could appreciate him until then dropped. One of the most famous lines ever. And it's beautiful because it works and it's not foul or out of play or anything. But I believe during a game against the Mariners, he wants dropped a and the sax or full of semen. Really, that is really that is I can't even be yin to describe the level of savant nece that is going on when he conjures that up, like there is. Like Maya Angelou aspires to be hawk Harrelson what I mean. You know what I mean? It was. Oh my, oh, my, you know, those things on Twitter where it's like respond to this or quote this with your least or with your lease popular blank opinion like popular baseball or or TV, or movie opinion. I will miss hawk Harrelson far more than I will miss VIN Scully. Yes. Like I say that I'll miss Hok Hera the MVP. MVP there's a difference, right? I will miss Hok Harrelson's. Baseball calls like game action calls more than VIN scully's game action calls, but I will miss VIN scully's stories in between. Sure. I get it. I just like there was a, a one of them was hanging out with bucket, Jackie Robinson. All right. I could listen to hawk call, Dwayne, Wise's, catch and Burley's perfect game every single day of my life moving forward. And it would never get old. I'm not saying he's a better announcer than Vince gully. I'm just saying me personally, just Justin, I will miss him more so tip the cap to Harrelson David Wright and victim Artigas we will miss you here on the starting nine when it comes to below the belt comfort, there's regular underwear, and there's Tommy John, the revolutionary clothing brand that's redefined comfort for men and women everywhere. Let me put it to you this way. Tommy John doesn't give an f. They give three Fs a fan. Fabric fit and function baby. Tommy John, the baby isn't even in the copy. I just threw that in there. Tommy John obsesses over every little detail and stitch by using proprietary fabrics that perform like nothing you've ever worn before. As a result. Tommy John's men men's and women's underwear sport, a no wedgie guarantee comfortable stay put waistbands and range of fabrics that are luxuriously soft, feather light moisture, waking breathable and designed to move with you not against you. That means there's no bunching no riding up. 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Oh, so I took that like you were talking about crush Davis, and I apologize. I got very offended Jesus Christ's things about the as a research department look into this. Yeah, God. All right. Well, hey, hey, I, I don't know. Maybe the rocket sometimes launch fucking ridiculous direction. Shoo shoo, but always always on bias. That's my promise to the readers in the listeners. You have the answer to this question, are you going by Lois opiates by four hundred? I was going by. Lowest war per se. Yeah, not just by the eyeball tests because I'm really good at that because I played the game. You fucking pans, and I guess, yes. It is he? No, it's it's not. I wanna say it's gotta be who is the dude that did it with the brewers, like a few years ago. And then he went, of course, Carter's Carter crews are very close. My friend. He had point nine war in two thousand sixteen in forty one Homer season. That is the fourth worst ever. The guy who has the lowest. And again, it's war like there's the difference between point nine point, seven or whatever it doesn't matter. But the guy who is the worst actually has two of the worst three seasons. Okay. What can you give me like a like a decade. The like two thousand four to two thousand twelve era. Reynolds cruise? No. His nickname is that of an animal. At least the nickname, I know of two thousand four two. This is two thousand six and his third where season was two thousand eight. Nickname, is that of, wow, I know. I'm gonna hear him. Yeah, you guys will absolutely react that way. I'm just going to tell you since we're closed out of time. Yeah, Adam Dunn the big. Yeah, I never would have guessed that though. Four war in two thousand six and a forty home run season Joey. Gallows twenty eighteen. He's actually produced two point, five wins above replacement, which is the sixteenth worst forty home run season in MLB history. So our listener was onto something I think, but not quite the worst ever. If you go by Opie s which is what Jared was just talking about. Joey Gallo also not the worst ever, but it's a little bit closer. That is the sixth lowest Opie and a forty home run season. What Gallo has right now. Eight twenty two the worst. Todd Frazier's twenty sixteen. He had a seven sixty seven. When he hit forty home runs that year. The second worst Neely I can't go one podcast without it Albert pools his thousand fifteen. He posted a seven eighty. Seven p. s. forty home run season. Well, not not a that France is mind numbing -ly confusing. We are rapidly running out of time Dallas. This fan has a chance to go to game one of the Houston series, but has a research conference the next day. Do I go for it? I just researched it. You fucking right. You go for it. You'll live your life. Research conference doesn't sound that demand. You'll be fine as a Rangers fan. It's been a brutal season. Can y'all address the message? It sends to fire the manager before the final home series of the season in anything y'all heard about it to me, it seems like a strong statement that they didn't let Manny finish out the season much less the last three games at home. I would agree with you. I'm not excited about that. It sends the message that, hey, we want you fucking gone and that there might have been some shit going on that. Maybe everybody pretty good job of covering up in Dallas. No better than me when something like that happens. There's probably some behind the scenes stuff that was going on that would lead to something like that. You don't always see their team will make a decision to fire manager before the season is over and not do it until the season's over. It's probably a bad situation. If it's if it's right before the season's over like stand you for another fucking week, Jeff banisters old school manager will just say that. So you have to think about the direction. People are trying to go well, and the the comments afterwards suggest even from Bannister himself suggested that there was a communication issue or that the one of the reasons cited was banisters communication with staff and players. I have no idea whether that's true or not, but that's what the reporting on it was any final thoughts? Yeah. I was talking when I was talking shoot on you. Did I say that you did? I say your team was the cardinals? Yeah. I blacked out for a second. I like I, I was a little what you were talking about. I obviously obviously meant I know. So I just want to of the Indians there. Astor editor throw that in there Indians. I know your favorite team is Indian. We'll probably leave that unedited and we'll just put in your case in there at the drop it right in there. Again, the chaos that could ensue in the National League, give me a playoff game to get into the playoff game. I want it. I need it. I want game one sixty three before the one game playoff. 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White Sox Announcer, A Special Baseball Card, Joe Frazier's Generosity

Only A Game

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White Sox Announcer, A Special Baseball Card, Joe Frazier's Generosity

"Trove of keepsakes. There's a letter Jason Bonetti wrote in elementary school explaining what he wanted to be when he grew up. Jason doesn't quite remember which teacher this is only a game I'm Karen given in the Bonetti family treasure everything like Oh let me go do radio because you can't see me Jason graduated from High School in two thousand one and continued his radio broadcasting career at Syracuse University my friends when the Games were on Jason was in his element having fun like any other kid but he wasn't just any other kid Jason was in one big obstacle to overcome only games Kyri Thompson has the story Jason Right Wrong Oh let me go play the Tuba because it's the largest musical instrument like David Against Goliath let's go do it writ large before long he was running Siracusa Sports Radio Department on the surface everything was great but Jason's rise through the ranks also dug up some familiar issues diagnosed with cerebral palsy as toddler he grew up hearing other kids making comments about the way he struggled to make eye contact and the way he walked whatever living room he and his friends were playing video games in so I would play Madden or whatever baseball Ken Griffey Junior Baseball Nettie Remembers practicing to be a sports broadcaster when he was twelve years old doing voice impressions of Chicago White Sox Announcer Hawk Harrelson his announcing booth I get hired as sports director and one of the people who ended up not getting the job put up on instant messenger at least he'll be or whatever it was jason used his announcing Gig to get into his high school's radio program I think like how very transparent I was about first grade at points was at school in a wheelchair and then had like the forest gump leg braces Jason had a passion for sports a great story for Somebody's magazine one day Jason began to wonder if his disability was all people would ever see him there was a level of up to the top of the press box and had me announce the sets and I would say coming up next our children or wheels of a dream great way to do it the school band instructor could see Jason was struggling but didn't want him to feel left out so he suggested another way for Jason to stay involved he sent me you can't see me but I walk with sort of halting gate when people see it they don't really know what to make of it at first I mean I in and then at the end I wrote in large letters yes hat tip to Hawk Harrelson you know he would say you can put it on the board yes and basically the band would go kind of in orbit around the planetary me which is like if you're not trying to draw attention to yourself not instead I could have just played the trumpet so how'd that go they put a tube on a stand for the first couple of tries at marching band for me but he wasn't able to play an organized leagues so he tried out for the marching band at home would floss more high school you'd figure he'd pick up an instrument that was light and easy to carry like can't make a mistake because if I make a mistake people are going to then go back to what they saw and think that I'm just incapable of doing not only ooh yeah yeah right and Shell Ninety four like that sort of thing and I would do play by play of the game while I was playing with back there they look up you can put it on the pole yes yes Jason had big dreams hey this job but any job so jason pressed on even harder after graduating from Syracuse in two thousand five he then started a decade long stint as minor league baseball radio announcer while getting a law degree from wake forest university the intense schedule a nagging doubts started to weigh on him in the minor I there are just days when you've had games fourteen straight days and six our bus rides in between and all of that comes with it drains you completely and thoroughly wears you out and there were moments where I was like am I gonNa get Outta here like I know I'm good but when is Mr Job with ESPN in two thousand eleven he started travelling the country to call college football games his career was taking off but he's still rate gonNA come Jason realized working in TV could help get him to the top so we put aside his reservations about being in front of the camera landing part time broadcast and she goes would you like this size or this size and then I started to think well what if she had one hundred people which he talked Oh had moments of frustration I met a college football game I met my hotel and I asked the woman at the starbucks in the hotel to make a drink and she looks at me holy to them and that's the insidious part right as I shouldn't spend mental energy on that because she doesn't mean anything by it Jason was still waiting for his big break when and soon after that meeting Casper mentioned Jason's name to a few people in the white sox organization as a possible future replacement for Hawk Harrelson Jason's childhood acas workload with retirement incite Jason got in touch with Brooks Boyer the White Sox Head of marketing and asked if they could meet Brooks agreed jas for a couple of hours and it was a full fledged interview despite being caught off guard Jason feel good about the interview but the team told him there was one big meeting needed to seal how go baseball found him again in two thousand fifteen I was living in the DC area and the cubs came into play the nationals Jason sent Chicago cubs TV announced the deal. Oh the last step is meeting Jerry which no pressure like don't look down from the top of the John Hancock Building Jerry is and win in expecting an informal meet-and-greet it wasn't brooks had brought several high ranking members of the White Sox Communications Department with him I ended up being in this Room Hill Hawk was seventy four years old at the time as the twenty fifteen mlb season wound down reports trickled out that the longtime voice of the white sox was scaling Len Kasper tapes of his work in the past and the two had struck up a relationship so I asked land do you want to go to lunch when the cubs were into play the nets and he said I can't looking around and it's like Oh here are six championships and random Michael Jordan paraphernalia that everyone would kill to have and then he walks in and offers me Jerry reinsdorf owner and chairman of the Chicago Bulls and White Sox in December two thousand fifteen jason was sitting and Reinsdorf's office I white Sox came there was a pineapple at my seat like what are we what are we doing here whether because of the joke or because he'd done it a cigar and I don't smoke and I think the world is over weeks came and win and Jason heard nothing from the white socks over the years he had said sports and how much are childhood experiences color who we become Jason officially became the fulltime hundreds of times before the first game flew by for Jason the second did too until the seventh inning Avi Garcia hit a homer for the socks site is childhood dream of working for the socks instead focusing on just being the best announcer he could be but once the opportunity was within his grasp then I started if you wanna catch more stories again and it all kind of rushed back to me and I still don't know exactly what it was and I keep leaning on the power of white sox play by play man this past season he also broadcasts college football on fall weekends the kid who avoided the camera growing up is making his voice what have pipes quite like Jason Bonetti's but you know we try the job Jason Bonetti had wanted since he was in elementary school was his jason couldn't believe it the kid who used to do impressions of Haughey Harrelson would soon sit in the legendary broadcaster seat like the odds of that happening or so infinitesimally small get that but the odds of Hawk remaining the job and have me be the one to actually take over for him is there even smaller Jason couldn't help but feel the butterfly and face known throughout the country and he says he's learned something from a lifetime of being different embrace the fact that you're weird or strange so we would always get a pineapple and just have it sitting at our parties I don't know how it started I don't know why it started but I do know that when I walked into the booth for my field still homerun it's like a two game series or whatever it was but after the first game we're going to go watch the blackhawks in the Stanley Cup finals you should come Jason took up on the offer oh here listener should know that the NBA is in the middle of one of the most bizarre most troubling and wanted as a kid and it was like please just let him certify this the white sox finally called after the New Year welcome back to both of you thanks thank you for having me then you've been covering the story nonstop so I'm sure it will be difficult to keep this short but what should listeners know Ooh I really need to be the sox announcer again because it kindles this flame inside of you when you get close to this thing that you want with Hong Kong and that tweet came as the NBA was descending on China for its annual trip to Shanghai and stories you should know if you had asked me last week what the biggest story by far of this week would be I would not have said an international incident involving the shockingly enough China polled Houston Rockets Games from state run broadcasts and the initial response from the League was really did with a tweet from Houston Rockets General Manager Darryl Maury and it was an image that said fight for freedom stand probably the most consequential stories that the Lee has experienced for a very long time certainly of Adam silver the NBA commissioners tenure and it all started is before his first regular season call for the White Sox they're twenty sixteen home opener against the Cleveland Indians but he wasn't alone ten college friends flew to the like this one subscribed the only game podcast on apple stitchers spotify or wherever podcasts are peddled the only game staff might not signed that legendary card coming up on only a game from NPR NPR's Co switch is a podcast about race in America that's weird thing you're probably going to be a pioneer that story came from only games Kyri Thomson about all of us are histories however represented the ways we've worked together and worked against each other you'll learn you might get mad you'll definitely laugh but don't take my word for it just listen to NPR's coats which I'm Karen given and it's time for three store questions about free speech and how US businesses should operate in and oppressive regime I mean it's it's one of those stories that stories sports bloviating and the word that is on their lips more than any is complex or complicated and the thing is to anyone who's take Keith comstock played professional baseball for seventeen years but he may be best remembered for his nineteen eighty-nine minor it was not appreciated by the government in Beijing you described it as an international incident which sounds both absurd and true I'm not very clear and left itself open for misinterpretation and the NBA had to come back about forty eight hours later and offer a more forceful statement in which Lee clarified what it was trying to say the first time I tried to say this so it has been a wild week and it has touched off or league baseball card you told me that I was ah Cy Young Award winner and I don't think I would have felt as much as it did that baseball card the story be a and China but that's where we're going to start this week I'm joined by Mike pesca host of the daily slate podcast the gist and by the Wall Street Journal's Ben Cohen we're all still trying to wrap our heads around it Mike I know you've been following the story all week to what do you make of all this yeah and I've been mostly following the media reaction to the Ballpark to enjoy the moment with him and keep Jason Loose you had a running gag in college that parties are better when they're pineapples at the party tire saga it appears that it might be we have seen some evidence that China has taken steps to deescalate the situation but the idea NBA do you think that's enough to get the NBA through this without an apology I think that has been the most fascinating question of this express by Daryl Morey to stand with the Hong Kong protesters is not complicated it is obviously true that these people want civil rights that they had and the oppressive regime of and that is sort of emblematic of the tricky situation that it has encountered all right Mike there was apparently some other sports Sunday night as an apology even though it was not meant to be an apology it was apologetic but it wasn't supposed to be an apology now the most interesting part about that question and it does in fact come from one of the pieces you contributed to in the Wall Street Journal the NBA is not the first organization to face this sort of pressure from they literally co owned with the government of China ESPN has been horrible in terms of getting any straight story on this but the Wall Street Journal has been good espn we should it and the ball cleared the fence and I made the call and I don't know why but like I started to well up and it was like I'm twelve China other businesses have all apologized and here's the quote there are other Hotels Airlines and clothing brands there is only one corporate interests you know the people who own espn or Disney and Disney has so much business interests in China not the least of which is a five point five billion dollar theme park is that China did not accept it as an apology so the NBA found itself under fire in the US for apologizing and under fire in China for not apologizing China wants them not to have their civil rights he tweeted and obviously correct thing on a platform twitter that isn't even allowed in China and espn with their slash politics news this week apparently is a good word I don't know if you knew this but I didn't know this just to say Cory Booker unveiled a plan to I'm reading the Great Ben Cohen in the Wall Street Journal who I recommend me even just a little bit it's not that complicated what I mean is the actual tweet the actual sentiment change that thing that is weird about you is probably the thing that's most fiery and most cared for deep inside of you and if you follow that China's very upset but they're not allowed to explain what the situation in Hong Kong is that caused the tweet in the first place but then I want to bring the conversation around to this addressed athletes and sports doesn't say it's bad right it just a grab bag it's everything every California rule about players in the NCAA owning their light Ronda how much priority do you put on the NBA dancers. I was wondering if Cory Booker just saw California Governor Gavin newsom sitting in a barber chair next to Lebron End Exploitation and sports basically what it is is a list of every kind of progressive policy proposal that has ever in the last five years Zeh has a policy apparently that it's people aren't allowed to talk about the story behind Maurice Tweet so they're allowed to say oh it's a lot about for instance Senator Chris Murphy's idea to quote bring transparency and accountability and improve educational outcomes basically by keeping track Vince to us who work in sports journalism which is that we think deeply about these issues in sports and we end up in kind of an echo chamber but then I get letter uh of the NBA apology is a really interesting here because most people in the United States took their original statement on the odds of this bill actually passing like fourteen bills back the plan coming to fruition the new deal for jocks saying how far voters have come on these issues I think the people want justice and they actually retreat to sports because it is more or less fair one place where he could say actually Elizabeth Warren I'm the only one who has a plan for that well I'm curious I would I would like to know for Mike what are the for NFL cheerleaders and NBA dancers I don't mean to minimize at the NFL cheerleaders get paid and the and the NBA dancers get paid a pittance but we got a presidential policy about it this is the according to the betting markets cory booker has about three percent chance of getting elected so look a lot of these things actually when it comes to sports here's and tweets from our listeners who say what the heck are you talking about your all crazy stop messing with my sports and I'm wondering if Booker is overestimated hon of money and they said they could have made a go of it if they'd had deep enough pockets to lose seven hundred fifty million dollars in the first few uh-huh that could define my presidency he picked a heck of a week to combine sports in politics that collision that's the excuse but I think it actually could only help in terms of a candidate signaling that these are some of the things I'm thinking of and these are some of the kind of agenda after twenty two months of hype the XFL draft has finally been set for next week this will be the return of the League that first and last played in tries to be fair I don't think there is you're right I don't think there's a huge appetite and if we were to rank the issues this wouldn't be in the top hundred in public salience or actual importance two thousand one and fills with nostalgia about the guy who played with he hate me instead of his name on the back of his Jersey. This is a gamble that has a lot of bipartisan appeal to it so there are in fact a lot of things in this bill that probably would pass it's just a question of if you have only so much time to enact in jail Home most the timing that is defined his campaign far all right so we are a sports show it's about time to talk about an actual sport y'all good with that can we all right cool two years Vince McMahon's pockets are apparently deep enough but is money really all that matters I just hope he has a pretty good shot edgy for subur- Japan but mostly they WanNa talk about that baseball card that card goes a long way in conversations so seventeen years that's risen to the maybe they could work with a league like this and to try out different rules in this way we could tell that the challenging interference on a replay would be a disaster but in general it would be interesting if the XFL were a little like what a state is supposed to be to bring it back to politics a laboratory for democracy would be kind of cool if the NFL had China after this week honestly no I mean it clearly if this is not going to make money it's not going to last very long can you run into baseball fans out in the world what do they like to talk to you about Mosley Japan their people even the assignment but the guy who grew up a baseball fan in Chicago's south suburbs knows what he wrote I said I want to be the white sox announcer the time we hear it only a game try to tell sports stories that have a deeper meaning that shed some light on what it means to be human in this world the stage to bro Hug the number one pick in the NFL draft. I'd be into that Mike what do you think the commissioner of the XFL Oliver Luck whose Andrew Luck's father but you know one of the things that I'm really curious about is who the people who announced the draft picks are going to be like can we get he hate me up on Jack of things like graduation rates of black athletes but it goes so far as to this is got to be a first for a presidential candidate and exploitation of Labor Practices James and thought I need to get in on that action right like that's where I need to be but I think that maybe what's happening to cory booker here is what is the location of the baseball in the photo in the story of how Keith made this happen how he got this image on a real baseball card maybe even eld many times before most recently when the Alliance of American football folded eight Games into a ten game season earlier this year the AF lost he totally honest are nick's story is not one of those but we still think it's pretty fun here's only a Games Martin Kessler Keith Comstock Played Russian of three stories you should know have been Mike pesca host of the daily slate podcast the gist and the Wall Street Journal's Ben Cohen thanks to both of you you're welcome thank you in his eyes are squeezed shot his mouth is open like he's letting out a scream but what makes this card truly stand out the reason fans continue to bring it up I trust Vince McMahon or the McMahon family to do anything with a modicum of ethics so I'm really quite worried about how this will be let's just hope no one get seriously hurt yeah has Oliver Luck Convinced Andrew to play quarterback value let's hope nine let's really really hope not my guest for this week's that's pretty much yeah so picture this Keith Scott is uniform on with his hands stretched out in front of him and he's got this horribly pained look on his face fashioned baseball for seventeen years nine years of miles I played two years over in Japan and then I played in the big leagues participators that's a long career when more bizarre than the photo itself Yeah Yeah Yeah there was a there was a lot of thinking on your feet growing up keep doc kept his baseball cards in two shoe boxes one was for the special cards the star players you wanted to hold onto the other was for cards destined for aspects and then one day the photographer from pro cards showed up is a Sunday morning he was running late and he wanted to get things done it was kind of a big big setup. The photographer had a checklist with all the players on the roster and he was having them go through the usual finally gotten a real major league baseball card this was tough to take so before it was his turn Keith basically snapped she might put it in my bicycle spoke for all I know but after finally getting a real taste of the big leagues Keith Comstock got sent back down to the games minor league cards at least back then in the late seventies used posed photos so as he toiled away in the minors for the next five six batters in a single game in when Keith was twenty years old the California Angels selected in the fifth round of the Nineteen seventy-six mlb draft miners he ended up on the AAA Las Vegas Stars for the nineteen eighty eight season he was now thirty two years old playing for a team stacked with young all cards more than he'd want in fact in there's something important about Minor League Baseball Cards unlike Major League cards which feature action shots from Mike I'm tired I wanna do something different now the creative process in be mysterious in Keith's not sure where exactly this particular stroke of inspiration he ended up in Iowa playing for the single a quad cities angels that's where he got his first card as a professional

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SCOREBOARD: Shortstop Shortage

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

16:46 min | 3 years ago

SCOREBOARD: Shortstop Shortage

"Brought to you by Scots urologic beating this summer, but with one more feeding this fall with Scott's turf Bill, winter guard, your grass will be greener stronger and more resilient both now and next spring, it's the perfect time pick up a bag today. These these baseball tonight scoreboard John Brickley and this is the baseball tonight. Scoreboard for Monday, September twenty four twenty eighteen coming up. The Indians take thriller against the Red Sox. The dodgers keep rolling out west and cow Schwarzer carries the cubs over their crosstown rival. Let's get to it. The first pitch. And we beginning the American League, the Red Sox and Indians on Sunday night. Baseball, Red Sox with a win would clinch homefield advantage in the playoffs. And in the process set the new Mark for wins in a single season in franchise history with one hundred six for Mookie Betts. He continues to be on a tear off pitch swing and a ball driven. Well, centerfield audits lay gone. He is incredible. He laid off every pitch a couple of borderline. It's home run. Number thirty one dead center, and the Red Sox have tied it up at three and three Mookie Betts battling with his teammate. JD Martinez in the AL MVP race according to Elias bets. The first player in Red Sox history to have consecutive for hit nights, including three of those for extra base hits yet for the second straight night. This game would be decided in extras in the eleventh. All right. Here we go. All noted up one out three to Robbie sky delivers swing and a ground ball. It left field. Scraping it from third is Jose Ramirez, Greg Allen has wanted in the eleven the engines, what it all Mook Sean with the calls on ESPN radio, Greg, Allen with his second career. Walk off hit Indians, took it four, three, and eleven Alan afterwards with BUSTER. Looks like Francisco indoors, lying in wait right here with the bucket. I, how much was that though? The buff? I'm enjoying this here. All right. Is that bad extended? What would your plan. You're talk with someone to play run into this real. You're trying to get some pudding. The trust go around there. What it'd be guys drawn out of these games against the Red Sox. Other contending tape down the stretch. If Nagai, how? How did you see these fancy games going innings? They got a great team over there. So we know that when you get into this kind of all games to talk this, it's going to be talking, but how the team we were able to persevere social zillions. The win you guys have had control of this division seemingly since about may how much y'all looking forward to the postseason. We're definitely before to it. Chance you have to play for championship. It's a one four to do along these guys. Staff is even better. So we're definitely before to challenge, grants dry up mass for Boston. The number still remains at one to clinch homefield advantage throughout the playoffs. Meanwhile, Zander Bogart's taken out in the seventh inning for precautionary reasons is listed as day-to-day the best surprise story, the season, the Oakland Athletics on the verge of a postseason berth for the first time since two thousand fourteen needing a win over Minnesota or a raise loss to the Blue Jays Trevor Cahill on the mound, and it's an issue in the first two to pitch swing and a drive right center field that deep packet goes deep goes near the wall and gone. Jake Keva first inning, two run Homer and the twins, three batters in have to nothing lead twelfth home run of the season for j. cave, Treasure Island baseball network twins when it five one ending Oakland's four game win streak. We cover k. hill lasted just three and a third, three earned run suffering his first home loss of the season. Although the as we'll finish the season on the road with series against the Mariners and the angels. So the as hoping for a raise loss to the Blue Jays. However, that would not be the case. The right hand is pitch has dry for the straightaway left. Could it land in the second deck, all the way back in attended the second deck log solo Homer for CJ crow, number twenty. Eight and the raise league goes to three. Nothing. Call courtesy of WD raise a five, two winners starter. Blake Snell dominated tossing six and two thirds allowing three hits with eleven strikeouts and in the process lowers ERA to an AOL best. One point, nine zero snow also earns his twenty first win of the season, which marks the most in franchise history. The Rockies trailing, the dodgers a game and a half in the NFL west LA hosting San Diego and Matt Kemp reaching a milestone, a one to. All of that. On his thirty four birthday. They took wrong outta here. First of the year, the dodgers continue to flick their muzzle hits tune it up. Charley Steiner AM five seventy l a sports camp is the oldest dodger to Homer on his birthday at the age of thirty four since Zach. Weep back in nineteen twenty four that home run. Also the one thousand career RBI for Kemp dodgers blasted the Padres fourteen and nothing. Manny Machado Austin. Barnes also with home runs as the dodgers have hit multiple home runs in sixty two games this season and according to allies that is tied with the two thousand and nineteen fifty three seasons for most such games in a year in franchise history, a loss of the Diamondbacks would eliminate them for postseason contention for Colorado Nolan air or not. Oh, the livered once more for the Rockies offense. Cheese sit to left center field and well-struck back going policy. Can't get it. It's over said that's gonna score. David doll in the second base, knowing are not a what they stand. Yup. RV I double rip the ball the first time up. Did the same here this time when the gap to left center one, nothing Rockies a fifty KOA on the call. Rockies earned the shutout to nothing. Kyle Freeland seven scoreless innings. Seven hits one walk along with seven strikeouts now sixteen and seven on the season. A two point eight, four with ten quality starts Rockies have now on five straight versus the Diamondbacks and ten of the last twelve. Colorado still remains a game and half back in the NFL west and in the wild card race. Good news though. The Rockies do finish the season with a seven game homestand in the NFL central. The brewers remain chasing the cubs in the division. The two clubs separated by two and a half games. Milwaukee wrapping up at series against the pirates with homerun derby on full display Christian winning in the pit lined into right, get up jolly hair goal for Christian yelich. Is just hit a three run shot outta here. And I mean really tattooed that one and the pick swinging at a drive to write the debt up, get up, get on a here and gone to the Allegheny river. The legendary calls of Bob euchre of WTMJ Christian yelich with his twenty first home run since the all-star break. Travis Shaw tying his career high with his thirty. First home run thirteen, six Milwaukee still holds the top spot in the NFL wildcard, race leading the cardinals by two games, cubs and the White Sox in Chicago's offense set the tone in the early going. I offering son on hit high in the air, deep right center. Get out the tape measure. Longgang. Swore hammering went over the right center field fence laid four to nothing bad us on the cubs radio network for college Warburg his first home run off a left-handed pitcher, this season a strong showing from starter Kyle Hendricks seventy two thirds. One earned back to back starts of more than seven innings for the fifth time in his career, as the cubs went six one still two and a half up in the division as the magic number down to five to clinch the NFL central. A tip of the capita hawk Harrelson whose legendary career came to a close after three plus decades in the booth. This call is over. Enjoyed. Very much. I have enjoyed it. Loved it would never forget it. NBC sports. Chicago, certainly a tip of the cap from all of us here on baseball tonight to hawk Harrelson for what he is meant to all broadcasters everywhere in major league baseball. Congratulations hawk on a decorated legendary career. The cardinal seeking its first three games sweep of the giants for the first time since ninety five miles Miklos was brilliant. On the mound, seven innings one earned and eight strikeouts getting his seventeenth win as for the bats for Saint Louis hairs, a swing in a long one right fail for carpenter. Six of the year. To run over. The two cardinal lead in the eight, the cardinals radio network with the call thirty six home run of the season for carpenter and the first since August thirty. First nine to the final as the cardinals improved to twenty three and eight and starts made by Miklos. Saint Louis also stays game and half up on the Rockies for the final wildcard spot in the NFL the Astros on Saturday clinched a playoff berth. Now setting its sights on the AL west crown, getting closer with a win over the angels and delivers, and that's drown fail. Twelve boxes for Yuli gurriel to run over at its two-to-one. Astros Robert for the call on KBM e Astros win six, two to secure. It's ninety. Eighth win of the season. The third most in franchise history, the magic number down to four to clinch the division as for starter Charlie Morton left the game after just one inning, throwing twenty four pitches making his first start since September fifteenth. The Yankees over the weekend became the sixteen in baseball history to hit two hundred fifty home runs in a season Sunday against the Orioles j. hop, five innings of work, but the bullpen had its issues, especially against him Beckham here's the chew. Beckham five all left field way back in the corner that convince you recommend, yes, you did. Second time today, wait vid by by Tim Beckham with a multi home run game this one with Nancy, v aboard, and we are tied in the Bronx, Joe angel one. A five point seven. The fan I multi home run game of the season for Tim Beckham as Baltimore earned the win six, three, the Yankees pen, allowing five runs in three innings. Now what's more concerning is the pet is allowed seventeen runs in eighteen innings over the last four games. But New York does remain a game and a half up on Oakland for the top wildcard spot. Now, there is some bad news for New York pertaining to DD Gregoria suffered torn cartilage in his right wrist sliding into home in the walk off win on Saturday. The shortstop will be reevaluated in a few days. Here's Yankee skipper, Aaron Boone, is he okay? He's he's got. He. He tore some cartilage on his wrist on the slide home yesterday. So he he, he had an MRI today and then treat it with a cortisone shot today. And then he'll be reevaluated in a few days. How you what are your up, which optimism that you'll have him back on? Sure. I think there's a real possibility we do. You know, there's also a possibility that we don't. We'll we'll know a lot more in a few days and see how the risk response to to the cortisone shot. Yankees manager, Aaron Boone following the injury to shortstop Didi gregorius Rangers in the Mariners Joey Gallo doing it again at the plate for Texas swing a hi Dr. Cedar going back on the track. He's at the history, but to run over degrees hill for Joey Gallo. Two run pinch, hit home, run for his thirty ninth of the year. And it's six to one ranger what a five point three the fan Gallo with his thirty nine home run of the season Rangers took it six one as Gallo needs. One more home run to back toback forty home run seasons, which would be the first Rangers player to reach that feat since Alex Rodriguez did. So in three straight seasons from a one, two, three. This one also marking the final home game in the career of Adrian bell trae as for Seattle, ten and ten this month. Having not had a winning month since June analyst rivalry renewed with the Mets and the nationals wanted to catch lying in left center field hangs in the air Taylor diving, and it will to the base of the wall. One run and two runs in here comes Vic, Neill gutting. The engine heading for third Conforto hillslide is. He is in there. He's got a triple and the mid seventy four run. Fourth, there ahead five, three, seven, ten w. o. r. Mets are in the victory eight six improving to eleven and eight this season against Washington Braves topped the Phillies to one a day after capturing the title for the first time since two thousand thirteen Tim Kirch. Now joins us to recap the journey for this young Atlanta squad. The Braves was supposed to be a year away, maybe two from this good National League eastern division champion, Atlanta Braves. Instead, thanks to a dynamic combination of spectacular talent, youth and energy. The Braves are off to the plan, the beloved with a poor country hard to even described really. They were taken there by so many, none more important than Ronald AKU new junior brought on a cougar scale. The wall and broad. It's back is recall in late April, gave the Braves jolt and his insertion instant leadoff spot in late July chains, the lineup, dramatic. Before kunia. There was sawed off second basement Ozzy Albee's who is a strong as he is fence. In from the beginning of this rebuild has been Freddie Freeman who got lots of veteran helped this year from Nick Marquette. Make no mistake early or not. These brave belong in October, and it might be the first of many bay remarkable turnaround for this Braves club that went seventy and ninety two last season earning its second division title since two thousand five, the Marlins and reds meeting up Miami starter. Trevor Richard, seven, scoreless innings. The bats also came through hitting here with two onto out to the third Marlins up one, nothing. And while it gets a high fly ball, deep left center Guerrero racing back toward the wall, and that ball is a home homerun. Chad Wallich his first in the big leagues, a three run shot and it's four, nothing Miami WINZ Marlins earned the shutout six, nothing royals and Tigers. Casey set the tone here it comes swing and a little loop. British shell. A left here comes Monty on the run coming in, and he can't make the play at two runs. Well, score on a bluef- sing. Into no-man's-land by Cam Gallagher and it's three one royals. Casey c. s. p. royals one, three, two winning the season series against the Troy. Eleven to eight rookie Brad Keller with a three point. Two, eight ERA in twenty starts since joining the royals rotation in late may. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Scoreboard be sure to check out the baseball tonight. Podcast. Jerry Crasnick will join BUSTER to discuss everything that went on over the weekend plus boop. Shabby catches up with Indians manager, Terry Francona and Chris singleton chats with franscisco when door. Finally, Josh and BUSTER will take on the latest installment of Todd Ray Dems uniform trivia. I'm John Brickley. Thanks for listening everybody and have a great day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight scoreboard and be sure to download all podcasts including the baseball tonight podcast at ESPN dot com slash pod center. The baseball tonight scoreboard.

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Real or Fake

PTI

22:39 min | 10 months ago

Real or Fake

"Crude oil is crude natural gas is pure. That's why Pennzoil's based oil is made from natural gas not crowed gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for aware test using SA Five W. Thirty. Pardon the interruption but I'm Mike Wilpon. Tony it's national fossil day. I'm Tony Kornheiser shout out to you be browned. You'd better be careful. With shout now to you. Better. I was going to say what I was going to say is that you and I are getting close to fossil them ourselves. Point. These jobs you dry is going to be up soon. You're welcome. Boys and girls. In today's episode the dodgers you down Jose L. to they can't throw. Levian on bell is done with the jets but we begin today with how wrong we were about Tennessee titans. We both thought they wouldn't be ready for the buffalo bills because of their involvement with Corona virus but Tennessee manhandled the foreign old bills to the tune of forty two, sixteen afterwards Buffalo Coach Sean McDermott said quote we beat ourselves more than anything unquote one is that how you saw it? Well Tony. Buffalo made a bunch of stupid mistakes and penalties and we saw a drop pass. It should have been caught turn into an interception. I mean, they did a lot of dumb stuff. They look like they didn't practice like they had a week where they were trying to figure out and concentrate on ridding themselves of the corona virus and its effects as opposed to Tennessee, which actually had that and Tony. There seems to be maybe there's a simplicity to the way Tennessee plays with titans play the just maybe you don't have to have timing and maybe you don't have to have as many practices or maybe you can concentrate on things that are within your control but I know and I was watching this last night. It was too late to call you but I was pretty stunned by the way that game went. So what Tennessee did was they went six for six in the Red Zone and if anybody looks at this game and says, they saw a different way they need to go to an is surging immediately six for six hundreds. If you get opportunities and you cast those opportunities in, you're a good football team. They have thirteen guys with the corona virus did eight regulars did not play last night yeah. Yeah. Imagine how good they'll be when they're healthy like. There's some things that have to be said about Tennessee and the first one is this. They're going to use this as fuel all year long in the way the Marlins in cardinals used it in baseball. They've already said publicly a lot of people doubted us a lot of people said, we made mistakes a lot of people a lot of people a lot of people and that's going to be fuel and the second thing I think has to be said. Is it might rebel is the best pop bill Bella check of all and it's not. You know his team last year beat Baltimore in the playoffs and people thought it was a fluke and then they lost in the AFC championship game to Kansas City I don't think it's a fluke I think Tannehill I think the problem in Miami with Tannehill was coaching not Tannehill I didn't Tannehill Derrick Henry or pretty good one to shut this a really good team. Now my they're good. We'll Tony, it's the one two shots. Portland is kind of old fashioned. I mean I think posing defense is still think of history as the Guy They Have to fear, and then Tannahill can just sort of operate in the shadows, which is a very old football construct. That's not something that we've thought of the last I. Don't know twenty years even when it was a great running back Emmitt Smith still didn't think that Troy Aikman was operating in the shadows because he wasn't but there's something about that with Tannehill and Derrick Henry on a night where he doesn't have a whole lot assuming some place where you just like people are physically afraid of him Tony but I will get you all. To the Tony Buffalo did that that's an effort they ought to be. Embarrassed by giving the day were undefeated. They had something to play for, and maybe they underestimated the opposition like we did thought they were preoccupied with something that they were not. Let's move to baseball with a dodges are in whole. Owen to Freddy Freeman started the scoring last night with a home run as a brave sprinted out to a seven zero lead then held on to win eight seven. The dodgers hadn't lost back to back games in a month they're throwing Julio aureus against the Braves Kyle right tonight. Twenty you so confident that the dodgers who you have said repeatedly are the best team in baseball yes. I had truly come back. I have said that about the dodgers I believe that about the dodgers but if you use the word confident, no, I can't say I'm confident at this point, Freddy Freeman goes up there at the beginning games and blast one out and suddenly to braves are always leading dodgers are playing up if they can play catch up at all, they scored a bunch of runs last night late but they didn't win the game they're down to old at this point. If you ask me if I'm confident until you something that really impressed me last night from John smoltz whose terrific on TV before the dodgers said even scored and they were way down John smoltz said this they may not win this game. But if they can start scoring some runs, they may have some confidence for the next bunch of games, which may be exactly the way it's going to happen and I'll give all the credit for that. I am not personally confident. nope. Tony. I was busy yesterday out in the vast expanse behind me. You know what I was doing and I walked into a place with lots of TV's and it was seven nothing. And I just said. All right. Let's turn. Let's get the other games on this football on. There's baseball other than this on, and let's just just get away from this 'cause this is nothing and then I had to turn back and I watched the comeback and I was sort of I must admit that was rooting for the dodgers just to even I don't I don't have a team. Yeah. A Horse in this race, the series I wanted to close game close series. But Tony Sometimes I play the game. If I was still sports writer and I was in the locker room, what would I be asking and I want to ask guys who tell the truth and I might want to ask them on background you might not want to say it on the record but I want to know. Do, you feel that any part of this comeback will actually help you tomorrow moving forward. Now I don't know what the answer will be because Soda. You know we go to certain guys in the locker room for truth you go to some guys because they wanna to be show ponies on TV and radio a sound bites and in their podcasts and there's some guys are GonNa say to you what they believe and I don't know what the dodgers believe in their souls about those seven runs and getting really close and a chance to win that game. That's why you know I would use the word hopeful instead of confident, the dodgers will have curse you on maybe to pitch once but the braves are going to have freed and Anderson to pitch again innocent goes out there pitches four five innings and never gives up a run to braves haven't lost at all. They haven't lost that all in the playoffs. So obviously, dodgers have to they got to win four out of five. It's going to be hard to do but yes, I still think they're the best team but I, don't know that he's a win the series in the other baseball series Jose, altuve, they continued his throwing misery. Bounce throw to second base on a double play ball and Tampa ended up with five runs that inning Houston lost five to to to go down three. Oh. In that series, we'll buy we all know Houston cheated many people say now this is Karma. To say, in the Astros Tony I I don't know about Al to personally because I don't have a sense of him who he is what he stands for and what kind of guy he is I don't have a sense of altitude and to get my empathy, use the I. I got to know something about you. But I will say this watching that game and watching those catches that the Tampa Bay outfielders made Tony. They've made for three games now. Oh I. DO believe is Karma I do and I don't even know the generally speaking I believe. In Karma but I mean some of the rockets hit and some of the some of the blue balls that should fall in don't fall because guys catch them off the top blade of grass I just sit there going Oh my God, the Astros are getting exactly what they deserve here, and I must say Tony, I root for Dusty Baker. So I want dusty Baker to be separate and apart from that, but he can't be and as far as to I I don't know I think I leaned toward feel sorry for him but not for that team whole. So, let me get out to bay for a second because these numbers are interesting. This is completely out of the blue with him in forty seven career playoff games before this year one throwing error in the regular season this year zero throwing errors in the playoffs four, and in the last two games threes a former MVP. He's a terrific player I. don't go to Karma with this Mike I go Steve Sal Chuck Knoblauch. Maybe, he's got maybe this could be the end of a career. This guy might be able to put up hall of fame numbers that doesn't mean voters will let him in because of the cheating, but he was an MVP. Now if you can't throw these routine throws, you gotTa make them the Nats Ryan Zimmerman wasn't able to throw from third to first. So they moved him the first you can't move a five foot six inch guide to first base. You can't do that Al to base dot to be able to throw the ball and I do find myself having sympathy for him and I agree with you that the Karma is the batted balls did. Every single time every time rockets yes loops. Field should not be for Tampa Bay and I know they're good. Don't want to underestimate them Tony, and defensively, they appear to be the greatest thing ever for wow. If you who feels bad for Houston right now outside of the seven one three who feels bad for them. I'll just I'll just amplify the dusty. Baker thing good for him that he's going to play out to tonight. Good for him. Keep him out here. You have to do that. Let's take a break but coming up the jets released levy on. Dell. What does that say about them? And as Tony Larussa Tony Larussa. Really the number one choice to manage the white sox seven one, three Houston did I get that right I have to have gotten that right? I spent a lot of time in my life has got to be seven, one, three as opposed to. Three, which is the via DMV. GEICO presents monster. Counseling. Dracula tell me how you're feeling. No understands how known me these. 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Mean with the jets, there's only two reactions you can laugh or you. You can cry they're in a steel cage death match with Washington for the worst franchise in the NFL I don't even know why they wanted this guy to begin with. He's a team killer Antonio Brown S Pittsburgh if they're happy now that they're not there aren't they gave him twenty eight million dollars mighty. He played in eighteen games. He had four touchdowns and never gained one hundred yards in one game. So that's seven million touchdown they released apparently because he went on twitter and complained about the way he was used I what are we doing here? He stinks at this point Sam Darnold isn't any good Adam gays isn't any good the jets, our own five they are a clown show. Bro, and the great irony here is they are owned by. The heirs of Johnson and Johnson, and there's not a bandage big enough to help the New York jets. Thank you. For said, wing into my word there clownish that's what they are. It's cloud show. Bra It's a clown show every time Tony at every turn signing him because of who they are was clownish stupid trying to trade him and just sort of having a public in nobody wanting him. That's Clownish the coaching. Of Him was clownish, the releasing of him is clownish did the executive level of the New York jets? You know I used to be if you wanted to pick a franchise that sort of expressed, how just look sorry everything was used to be the clippers for like twenty five, thirty years it was a clippers. Now Tony it's the jet because I think they're all wrong lower than the Washington football club if that's possible. Let me. Tell you who's laughing right now Mike Tomlin's laugh and right now. You should be it's Blake Tony Larussa is reportedly the white sox number one choice to manage the team. It's the static. This is Bob Nightingale story in USA Today that Larussa might go back to where he started nineteen seventy-nine as you well know my first managerial job was with the white sox they fired a midway through nineteen eighty, six somehow Hawk Harrelson came down from the booth then became the GM and fired this guy got his record his record by the way was five, twenty, two, and five, ten in Chicago more good numbers since then the white sox have had eighteen losing seasons fifteen winning seasons, five times to the playoffs advanced once when they won the world series in two thousand five. Larussa do he won a world series in Oakland? He won two and Saint Louis He managed twenty five years nineteen winning season six losing thirteen playoffs and hello he's in the hall of fame. So I mean if Tony Larussa feels adequate to manage that's a good place for him to go back. Well Tony if it is I, don't know about this. This is about Jerry Reinsdorf because Jerry and. Then general manager role in him, and if you want to get a little historic brought Larussa and worked in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, three, the white sox I mean, we're just a great team. They did not win the world series that year but Tony Larussa had them go and very much in the right. Direction Hawk Harrelson as you mentioned comes in Kansas Jerry Reinsdorf his hated that and regretted that firing ever since. Tony this mackey in as in Connie Mack who was born in eighteen, sixty two and was still managing in like the nineteenth late forties early fifties. If those are the war years for you millennials out there says it happened it was no grande then you might wanna Google the civil war no, not the Vietnam War not world. War Two were one not the Spanish American war war the civil war Connie Mack was born. Larussa has like a suit and a hat like like an old to Connie mack look I, maybe it will work. If you're white sox fan you are very fun. It's still we're news uniform on Sunday afternoon games at home at least they wear those uniforms those Tony Larussa airily uniform. It's a very static time you're writing this algae. Lewis is still looks great by the way. Words on. Let's take one last break still to come our old to Derrick Henry, stiff on of your boy Josh Norman. And withstanding, Gundy, be the right coach for the Pelicans about that. What happened to use them? He's not in the Houston deal. Anymore is not be Jeff Van Gundy this just Antonio there are two. Accidents the that. But those two have sort of you know distinguish themselves in the NBA they're both good on television. GEICO PRESENTS MONSTER COUNSELING DRACULA. Tell me how you're feeling. No one understands how lonely these no one will even let me into their house I. Knock, but they ignore me. What else I look in the mirror? Don't even see symphony more if you don't see yourself clearly, can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire, but with GYCO, it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance. Happy Time Happy Twenty Sixth Birthday Jared Goff unlike, Dak Prescott Goth found the extension offered him by the rams to be just fine and he signed it for one hundred, ten million dollars in guarantees without having to be franchised goth was the overall number one pick by the rams out of cow in two thousand sixteen but he bumbled under Defensive Guy Jeff Fisher offencive Guy Sean mcvay took over GOP thrived. It was in the Super Bowl two, thousand eighteen, the rams were thirteen and three, and at thirty, two touchdown. Passes and twelve interceptions completed sixty five percent of his passes both golf and the team regressed last season his touchdowns went down to twenty two his interceptions up to eighteen is completion percentage and yards we're off and the team was nine and seven so far this season, the rams of foreign one gobs completing seventy one percent of his passes eight touchdowns three picks the yellow caution light is on though because all for those victories against the Putrid NFC east where no team has even at five hundred let alone above it. Tony. It's hard to have a great season. Jarod. Goff had a great season, but it's harder even to sustain that and have multiple great seasons because if you do and you sustain it even for decent of time since you on a trajectory to can't and I started watching Golfing Person At cal northwestern cal game and we actually intercepted golf. Important, stretch of the game to beat him in CAL at cow I've been watching it and root form since then and I hope he can sustain it. Happy Anniversary Francisco. Cabrera on this date twenty, eight years ago. The braves. Reserve Catcher at a two out two run pinch hit walk off knock in the ninth inning of game seven of the. To Send Atlanta to the world series instead of Pittsburgh Cabrera, hit a line drive off Stan Belinda on two one pitch that I scored David Justice with the tying run next for the agonizingly slow foot sits in Brim with a winning wrong sliding classically ahead of the throw from left fielder Barry Bonds to win the pennant. Amazingly, Cabrera had batted only ten times all season. So Bobby Cox must have felt something this was the end of the pirates three year run as division champs. Left for San Francisco, the pirates not have another winning season for twenty years. The braves went on a player Toronto in the world series they lost in six. This was the second of five world series they would go to under Bobby Cox. Tony is great as dramatic home runs are we talked about Mazeroski yesterday there was of course, Joe Carter. These home runs world series games to to to influence a win them as great as those are a play at the plate of Cla- slate slate is. Exciting. Then ball going yard in the world series to me anyway. Hundred percent sure. Happy Trails Josh Norman's dignity. The Buffalo cornerback was humiliated last night as he tried to tackle human tank Derrick Henry and got stiff armed into the dust of history. This is the equivalent of the butt fumble for a DB heavy sticks out his hand and brushes Norman assange like lint and Norman tumbles away not only did the Tennessee players on the sideline begin to toward Norman you can hear the TV announcers laughing for someone like me watch Norman. Basically steal seventy, five, million dollars from the Washington football team this feels like Karma Norman came to Washington from Carolina announcing he would become a big national star and left with a whimper least after four years in getting benched last season Norman made a big video deal out of going to Pamplona and running with the Bulls when he was supposedly recovering from injury as footage of him jumping over bolts. Great. He should've tried to jump Derrick Henry is embarrassing place wanted. Tony. As, much as I sort of used to laugh. Still, laugh about things involving Josh Henry is like Philip Rivers on the. Seem to be such Josh, Norman they seem to be such jerks but Tony There's a lot of evidence that says these guys to stand up men off the field and with you go into the communities in which they live and operate people have incredible testimonies about them and what they stand for and they stand up. So I don't know how I feel about Josh. Norman anymore. Quick Commission, the Pro Bowl was canceled. Saturday's Lsu Florida game has been postponed to Florida's virus outbreak very quick to finish still can't stand in Gundy met with the Pelicans on. Tuesday good fit. I think it'd be a great fit for Zion particularly. Yes. I'm rooting for that. Hal Steinbrenner. The Yankees fans are not coming close to the world series is that necessarily? Know, they got people are that are team that really did the athletic reports at the NBA is targeting January eighteenth starting seasons. That makes sense if that's the over under for the season's starting out, take like six weeks beyond that. Tony if that the over under the saints are reportedly talking to Lsu about play the battle ruse. If New Orleans, we'll live fans in the superdome your thoughts. The answer, all your questions is money. This is about concessions many. Tonight Carolina Number Twenty One Louisiana Clears the raging Cajun's it's about politics I got baseball on two screens bedfellows. 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Monday 11/23/20 - Thanksgiving Draft (ft. KFC)

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Monday 11/23/20 - Thanksgiving Draft (ft. KFC)

"Arbeid threat monday november twenty third walk. The dog walkers barstool sports special guest here today snake. Draft very big snake draft. We got our guy. Kfc zoom kfc. How we don't a good man this. I was very honored that you said that. You know this draft wouldn't be Right without me. So i appreciate that man. It's huge i mean. Listen to thanksgiving. If you've been in barcelona for a long time i. when did you originally right. The block So the the blog is the top five power rankings of a thanksgiving dishes. I mean that was probably like two thousand ten like that was early. That was probably the first. Maybe the first thanksgiving maybe the second. So one's been floating around for like ten years and You know it's funny people every year like right around now like in november like post the blog you gotta posted on like it's already posted. You could just go read it. Google don't make me google prepaid. Yeah i i think that's one. I don't think i add to touch that up the christmas eve. Blog is another one that i always riposte and that's had to change over the years because of a few choice words and jokes and things that you just can't do anymore but that was the thanksgiving one stays pretty true but it's funny because i'm not i'm like the most by families like the most like average like white family in america. We don't have any special dishes. We don't do anything so my my dishes are like very plain and simple but people people seem to like the blog. So fuck it. Let's do it. I'll post it along with this. You know yeah it'd be great. Would you up i. I'm genuinely on on the christmas eve. Blog chris okay. I know exactly what. Yeah yeah yeah not. That had a had a reference from always sunny in it. That definitely is no longer allowed. Okay so you get cancelled big time. Yeah nobody that you don't want to. I don't even like talking about now. Because probably like some cash aid cash version of it that you can still read it or something so yeah that one had to be touched up the thanksgiving has been the same for like upwards maybe over a decade at this point and everybody seems to like it. But it's like it's it's so classic just asked you to cancel yourself. Tell us all the things on this cynical. So this dude is do tweeted us the other day and said he just discovered casey radio and he went and downloaded the kfc radio app from like the old original premium members and he is listening from episode one through and he started like live tweeting or recapping each episode and i almost tweeted him. Almost quote tweeted it and said if anybody wants to get down with with steve whatever his name was he's gonna watch episode one through present day. You guys can all do it together. It could be like a rewatch thing. And i was like you know what i don't know what we said in those episodes. I'm just gonna leave it alone and like episode too. He was like boy. You guys used to let it fly. and i was like okay nevermind nevermind nobody go back and listen episodes. Leave it alone. Leave it alone. They don't exist. The rue the was in inside job. Just a flow. That is if it was not an inside job. it should have been like. That was the smartest best the best thing that ever happened to us. I get mad sometimes. Because i for me personally. That's probably like my best work. Ever in my opinion those years was like when i was cooking So i sometimes. I get pissed because i'm like. Oh man that could have been like a treasure trove. That one day could turn into a bulk or whatever and now mike thank god ships gone. Thank god a lot of classic. Kfc bogged down there for sure. You know So yeah so. We're going to do thanksgiving you heard obviously The way we're going to do this. Run into two sides. One desert one guest one notable gas. So it's got to be like you know someone dead or alive. Even but some type of famous guests that everyone could relate to and then one worst person you would not want to sit next to okay so that person it could. It's it's more of a generalization. It's not like ants too so That's the five subcategories Before we really get into it though we want to talk about roman most guys tried different ways lies on her bed but they get about. Baseball doesn't always work folks at roman and online meant south. Coventry are changing the game with roman swipes. Secrets lesson longer sex White sox dave. Did you get that on some roman this weekend. I got down some roman this weekend. i all simple like i was at docklands over the weekend and I met a girl. And i had the swipe in my pocket was nice and easily concealed. even noticed it was they're just took it Deck or the white Wall both obviously. But i'm speaking about the swipe right now on the sleep Just took it off wiped it on let it dry. Didn't transfer to my partner and it was easy as that and swipes are great like dave sad Clinical labs aren't bad effective easy to use fast acting. It does require prescription it's discreet it's unmarked packaging. So you've got to worry about it showing up at someone be like what the fuck is this Super easy to use. Just take the swipe part of the package right but try to go. That's it to get your hands on these get roman dot com slash dog. Walk in your first month of swipes. Her just five dollars new choosing monthly plan. That's get rome. Dot com says. Dog walk on hanser sex life. Why not you really have nothing to lose like seriously All right so the thanksgiving draft we are officially underway. The draft order is carl. Kfc chief myself and white sox. Dave carl. The floors ran number one overall pick. We had general reactions to like where you guys stand in the first round before we get going. I know where you stand. Well i we are starting to get information where there are people that. Follow this draft shutout. Richie they're putting together like data and information on starting places and you know what the winning record is at each position. I'm surprised you took first overall now why we surprised. Because you typically don't like i. I don't and i'm glad you brought that up because we're going to get to the pick and picks obvious i think for anybody who knows my strategies but at a higher level i want. This is one of the hardest. I've had to think before addressed because when we say sides like there's no main course discourse here it's turkey that's it i mean sure may be In chief but like the sides are limited in there's some heavy hitters and that's why i over i'll take i'll get to it. I'm taking stuffing and as very easy. Pickier it comes out once a year. There's a great argument to be made. It should show up more often. Maybe christmas eve. If that's your fancy guys do a turkey around that stopping one overall. But i do wanna be clear to the audience out of respect to the pixel follow like i know i speak on here. This is the hardest. We've had to think when you're doing the sites and i'm very lucky to pick one overall and i'm lucky to get this. I'm very fucking lucky to have stops on my plate. Where did it reagan. The list kfc. I'm forgetting pulled up here. I think it was. I know it wasn't one but general feelings. Actually what's funny. When i go back and i read this like sometimes i disagree with myself like i. I feel like i'd change in my mind. There's three things and like depending on my mood in the moment. Those can those change I had it listed as three. And in the moment when i was reading it. Let me see what i'm reading here. i just said that it automatically gets crowned the champ basically the way that that Carl just did it there. It's just kind of an auto pick you know. And i think that's on my list. I was trying to get a little more acute and creative with it. But it's kind of just like the dish. There's a reason why it's like when you know when they say like all the the the league just had to give karl malone the mvp because they were sick of giving it to jordan that stuffing where it's just like in and out every single year. It's now the bigger question though i feel like. Do you guys. Like the like the homemade. Are you down with the stove. Top straight from the box the breadcrumbs white sox. Dave looks like he has an opinion. I- stuffing I would've taken stuff in one. One one hundred percent hitting you as our thanksgiving me. What like you just said. I'm perfectly content with the chief asked two dollars box you. I think it's fucking delicious. I don't get weird and they. People put like apples and sauce. I don't even know. I don't i don't need all that. Well not me but my family put just like a roll of the jimmy. Deans breakfast sausage in short. That's all you need. I'm putting together a of conspiracies here. That i'd like chief to investigate but chief not at the top. There has to be some kind of big food lobbyist effort that like bring stove top stuffing or whatever like the stuff into our our plates like this time of year. It has to be like seasonal runoff scrap from the agricultural community. There has to be something. Someone's making a killing off the fact that shows up once year. Well it's like it's interesting that you say do it more than once a year and i understand why but also doesn't like part of the reason why stuffing is so elite is because of the rarity scarcity of it. It's one of those things. Where if you did every every sunday dinner. Maybe eventually we'd be like him. And this is just like fucking lumps sum breadcrumbs and shit like we don't really can't be overrated based on frequency right but it's almost like we're we are the only thing in like in in society that we have self control with and we're like nope we're just going to do it. We all love it but we're going. Well here it is deep man. It reminds me one year. We were doing hoboken saint patrick's day in my apartment. If you don't know hoboken to they can't do any more like the craziest party of the year and every year without fail in the beginning of the day. We'd be like we're just going to do next weekend to man. We're just gonna keep doing this. Why did we have to do at once a year. And and if you try to recreate it like the next. It just doesn't work you know it's just to be like the timing has to be right. The stars have to align. And i feel like if you overdid stuffing it would it would lose its luster. Is there anything else right now that it was only once a year. There's another thing on this list. Yeah well you can. We get to my my. Obviously i think if you don't know where. Kfc's going here. Like i feel like this a good testament to knowing kfc. I know. I mean it's it's it's the cranberry sauce. It's it's the white trash. Cranberry sauce jelly. From the can with the rings around in a falls out and it kinda jiggles around and then you cut slices off of that shit. I mean that to me. That's not my favorite. If i was going with dishes that delicious dishes that i really really want to eat. I would not have. That would not be my pick. But we're talking about thanksgiving and what makes thanksgiving complete. What makes that plate of food special to that holiday and it stuffing is is similar and also just tastes better. So that's why it's the number one pick but the number two pick to me has got to be the cranberry and there's never been a bigger like my my first pick for my draft is cranberry from the can't mind last week would be the real shit like fuck outta here with homemade fancy shit. Nope nope nope. Nope got to be the ocean. Spray from the can white trash by virtue of this pick though ed can. We agree the real stops off the board. Go right. yeah yeah. Yeah but you know what i mean like. Yeah the fancy stuff to me. I don't even wanna look at it. I want so this ethic distinction. This is where we just wanna be. Clear sits cranberry sauce. But are you going to do pictures here. How do you. How do you plan on presenting. The city audience is very important. We know i could do whatever we want. We could use some pictures but the only problem with the pictures of if we use a shitty pictures. Something everything rolls that this is. This is where commissioner ed comes. In and sabotage. Sorry i'm jumping latest. Chief has ever gone with the commissioner at accusation in the last couple of months. Just throw a little asterisk on it and just say you know gotta be from the can you know what else is really great about. It is leftovers when you're doing like a little turkey sandwich and you just. I just use the slices as like a like a topping a slice of cheese. I just lob a little circular slice cranberry on there as well mama is interesting. Pick because obviously. I don't think anybody would say it's the second best thing but it definitely is the second most thanksgiving hundred percent and that to me. That's more important may i. You know you can have a good dinner. Three hundred and sixty four days a year. You can make what you want. It's gotta taste good all that but to make seasonal and to make it you know memorable for that holiday it's gotta be stuffing and then it's gotta be cranberry. Yeah i was gonna say it speaks speaks volumes of stuffing. Listen even though you only had one day a year. It doesn't mean you're going to be excited for people are excited for you. Know like you think about the day before black wednesday. You see fucking selma from high school for you know when you're still going on those the heyday. You see them once a year to fucking you. Don't look forward to that at all. Now yeah you got that right right right. That's pro for stuffing cranberry. I feel like dave hates cranberry sauce. I mean i'm exactly like kevin like it's not good but it's like such an obligations s. Sorry siri and i like. This is what i do with my put every load gravy over the whole plate including cranberry sausages. Make like basically a soup out of everything. You eat it all together. Like i don't eat the turkey and then go to the green bean casserole and then blah blah blah lake. It's all in ones one bite on the fork combined together and grit and gross ass ocean spray white trash. Cranberry sauce is part of it. If you have like a homemade Cranberry sauce dish. I fucking hates eight you so much. Such a hoity-toity presumptuous Foods like fuck you go at the white trash two dollars in a cancerous in leaving. You know what's begins funny. You mentioned the two dollars. The saddest thing in the world is when you go to the grocery store and you see the cran. The canned cranberry on friday. It's like they can give that shit away. I honestly think. I've seen it on sale for like a dime by ten cents is like we went back to the great depression. If you're poor you're homeless and shit you should load up on cranberry on november twenty fifth or whatever the day after is and just load up for the year because that's she'd is never going to be cheaper and they sell that sells out alive. I would imagine they try to make sure they have just enough. Because nobody's bein. It the rest of the year so if their leftover anything else that just be like a funny dilemma on on thanksgiving more on that thursday morning. We're like the shift managers. I call an h. coups. We're out of ocean spray. People are riding. It's such a throw into like if you're going like you're doing it for the first time i guess just throw throughout in the cart. It needs to be there. Haven't yeah all right. Cranberry sauce number two Chief you got the third pick. Yeah i knew those would be the first two picks i got to say. I've never had that cranberry sauce. Boozy fuck it doesn't surprise me if peter it's been served i remember being like seven years old and cnn. I'll be like what's that and they're like. It's cranberry sauce. My fucking sauce. Like you're lying to me and i checked out forever so i've never had like the homemade bucci kind of never had the gelatin can't kfc you're saying like all the next day it's ten cents. Let me tell you. There is no way that she is going bad by next year. Change the fucking label. You're right you're right. You're right. So i knew those would be the first throughout the war. This one is like a year round thing for me But it is the number one side mashed potatoes. Have you can't go wrong with mashed potatoes. It's the first thing that's gone. You get mashed potatoes leftovers. The next day like counter lucky stars because usually it does not make like pass the buffet line for one route so mashed potatoes feel great about a little butter. I like to leave the skins on get a little extra But anyway you do. You can't fuck up mashed potatoes number. That would have been my pick for like just tastiness wakes by now. It would have been mashed potato is okay and a little sweetie just thinking about the heavy s. It's going to be in stomach on thursday and what time you guys eat it because this is also an important question. Isn't it such a weird holiday where it's like. Yeah today for whatever reason we're just gonna do dinner at twelve forty five but what the fuck is that about. Why don't we just normal as time normally around like the second quarter of the cowboy game like whatever time that is that i have no idea maybe because people wanna get the fuck out of there i guess yeah and i i as i get i. I don't know where all you guys are at in life at this point and shit but like once you have to go to multiple houses. I guess that's why it's like you start at two so that we can do someone else's desert at like six and you got to be able to bounce around but it's very strange that we just decided to all do it like in the middle of the fucking afternoon. Yeah it's it's. I took a three. Pm that's what i think is like a two thirty two o'clock but mashes i mean matches the play here for sure This is like the surprising one two three. I think so far So i'm i'm i'm chief. I'm like proud of you at the same time the botch patronizing. Like what the fuck. I've had great picks week in week out. You guys are just always Like chalk and you've had things like cranberry sauce and pop tarts that. I've never had so. You have the distinct advantage but i love mashed potatoes thrilled. I got my number one side of the in the third overall. Pick all right so it's to me. This is don't fuck it up at. I know i am actually worry that i'm gonna fuck it up. I gotta go with. actually. I'm going to go with desert right here Right now i think it's the best spot is to go pumpkin pie. It's the number one desert. It's the same thing. So i'm gonna go pumpkin pie. Leave it all the other side's out there man. That's kind of crazy. That's a bold move really move is what it is at. It's an absolutely man. I'm sitting here reading the reading. The tea leaves. I didn't think you would go that route but as news as soon as you said desert ed pumpkin pies number one too. I feel. I think that thanksgiving dessert like traditional desserts are actually inferior in general. I think it's crazy to use your pick on on a in a desert pumpkin pie but there are better sides out there for your dinner than there. Are pumpkin pie as a desert. There's also probably better desserts. No pumpkin pies one to me. In general i think that pie like we would all agree. That pie is the thanksgiving dessert and to me. Pie is like pretty low on the list of desserts in my mind. I'm not a pie guy. Pie guy and a pumpkin pie. You get the fucking whipped cream. that's the press are. We'll have this. And i think there's a general theme here if you keep up with me that i pretty much like the white trash version of almost everything but i prefer like the fake white trash pumpkin pie over like the home-cooked shed the intimations. Just the sugary. It's basically just like orange sugar pumpkin at all. I'd prefer that then the real shit you know. I'm i'm happy with pumpkin pie. could've gone. It was sire. Pumpkin pie there but the way things go over all pumpkin pies number four. I'm happy with where i got it. And i'm also banking on dave dropping the ball a little bit too so that's known to happen. Bear throw a fucking wrench the hall draft in. I wanted do a blind. Your tastes has all you just prove that you don't know your fuck you talked about already told you. We're doing okay. Well when when when we do it. I'll be proved. I'll be vindicated. But i'm gonna go to the desert route to what is hoping slipped me because in this specific draft. It's very. it's a tough one. I think to be in the fifth spot. You wanted those one of those first three picks. I unfortunately didn't didn't get it. I got the snake. i got the wraparound. i'm gonna go apple pie. Apple pies infinitely better than pumpkin pie. But i do like pumpkin pie. That's how much. I like apple pie. Apple pie is so fucking good. You put that scoop ice cream on top of it. It melts into like the into the gooey middle parts. Got two nice crust. It's so much better than pumpkin pie. And i like pumpkin pie. I would agree. That's my top pie. Give me apple with a little. The allah mode is that what it's called the alamo. I feel like you can also like overload your apple and your apple pie to though i don't need to be that much like a lot of it's the one where i like a lot of the crust. I like a lot of crumble. Gimme the apple in it. And i need the taste of it but i actually like the the the bottom and the edges. Do you like the fence top. I don't know what it's called a hug. I liked that. That's not what it's called. It should be called fence topped pies crust the more of that shit the better so give me the fence top. Stop like that what it's called but it's a fun. Stop fancy people who do that like they showed you before it goes in the oven. It's like wow. You really took your time artist. You're an artist out exactly know pumpkin pies awesome. I think it's a great pick. I just i just pumpkin pie. I mean i think apple pies awesome. Sorry but pumpkin pies is what i associated with. But it's a great pick. I think it's i think it's easily number two and obviously it's called a lattice top lattice. Yes faulk dad's offense towns for the again for the white trash people out there. It's a fun stop but not could pick. Dave apple pies is quick shot out. Mcdonald's they do a great apple pie has been doing it. For as long as i've been alive won the two two for a dollar right. I mean that is the perfect example of like you don't need to do on that it's like fresh out of the microwave casino that they didn't like what's called your entire mouth on it but you keep going. That's one of the hottest contents of all time hotter than than the pocket hotter than the mcdonald's coffee. The inside of the mcdonald's apple pie will ruin your. I would argue that. Like the federal reserve needs to implement an mcdonald's apple pie pricing index. To like i want to know how much the economy's up show me in relation to the stability of and other cost of an apple pie like how many apple ties. Can i get with this in two thousand. Nineteen verse like nineteen ninety-six. That should fucking make sense and its always quite a lot. I mean that you can get a shift on apple pie for very little money that it's the that's a fucking amazing the and you know what how like some bites be cold and some bites. Be fucking three thousand degrees. How can i get two of these for dollar. How can they do apple so well at burger joint. It's a mystery that i love apple pie from. Mcdonald's hits near and dear to my heart genius in nash bronze to hutu. Best ask food items in on the planet for my next pick. This one's not going to get ripped on four. But i don't care i'm going with the side I think it's the best side of its combo gravy and everything that i talk about has to have gravy dumped on it obviously mashed potatoes and gravy go together but i'm going a sweet potato casserole with marshmallows burnt down. I think it's so much better than green bean casserole mostly because i don't like green beans really at all. I'll eat it when in rome on thanksgiving but green bean casserole down my list of what i like on thanksgiving. I'll look sweet potato casserole. It is fucking so good. So i mean that you've just confirm you're just a big marshmallow guy like the hawaiian salad which was sneaky. The worst pick anyone. Besides when jesus christ everybody would have loved it but i went with the white trash. Vers say that again. I said if i would've called it ambrosius out and gave it that. Like nice fancy name known where to set of people talk about one or two white trash wine sound version. I mean. I don't know i don't really even like marshmallows that much like i don't eat lucky charms because i don't like marshmallows. I don't. I don't know it's just one whatever. It is that combo of marshmallows and the sweet potatoes is delicious. Then you mix it all like in a in a sh mortgage board hodgepodge it with stopping and whatever other sides and the turkey and the cranberry sauce in is just delicious. It's the best. I'm going with sweet potato casserole. You talk like you put your your plate in the blender and then league. That's what it sounds like. i basically do. What a fucking fred flintstone motherfucker. What are you. What am i doing here. What do you mean what we're doing here. I had to get aside a went with. What i think is the best i i don't have i don't really have a take on it. I don't know if It's so eat sweet potatoes with the marshmallows. On top. more than once a year. I'd say after Like turkey itself and after stuffing sweet. Potatoes is like the number three thing. That's like near and dear to thanksgiving. I love sweet potatoes. it's on my list. I just hate the you added the mushrooms to it with the castro that makes it grows fucking two totally different things fucking idiot. Would you say what is that. What's all in it dave. Sorry what could he can you explain. I'm pretty sure you just loaded up with Sour cream once or mashing before he put them in the oven and then you've got the wear of marshmallows on shop. Not mushrooms like cheap. When i i said mushrooms i met marshmallows. So that makes it this like it. Surprised david went there my head. I'm just trying to think of how this impacts future sweet potato marriage. Discussions related this conversation. Which i dissipate to go. Mostly the first three rounds are going to be food heavy. So there's a place to talk about the sweet potato. And i do think i'm hesitant that we're just going to be left with casserole. Talk now you know if there's an opportunity to round table sweet potatoes generally but now i don't know if sweet potato mashes on tables aside for other people so this is now the time to pull the trigger on that part of the conversation you know i like to be respectful future picks So i'll stick by analysis can relate primarily to the casserole in this case. I think a casserole thanksgiving you say gas casserole boom. It's thanksgiving and then the other nice thing about is you had that sweet potato combo with that so just i think. Overall it's powerful is potato casserole. Kfc how do you feel about it. I am not. My family is really not sweet potato type people so i don't really have much by the way is yams and sweet potatoes. The same thing yeah. I think their different. No sweet potato is. It's the exact same thing i think. So yeah yeah. But but that's my point is like i'm so i don't know shit about it. All i know is that i think any food you can melt. Mash melt marshmallows on top of it. And that's like year dinner. Deal dinner side. I guess i can get down with. That feels more deserted to me. But i'm not going to throw. I'm not gonna slander it right. Sweet potato casserole dave You got that and pump apple pie. Sorry on your wraparound art. It's back to me. I'm i'm happy. I want to be clear. Sweet potatoes and yams are different. Things they are really or whatever you can call a sweet potato yam but that's not correct interesting what it's just a different type of potato or different ways so a whole different thing. Yeah just different. Interesting like malaria. In different yams are a root vegetable and sweet. Potatoes are like a potato. One white flash. As as i'm thinking about it like i do crush sweet potato fries. Sort of you know Now that i'm thinking through it. I guess i actually like it but i would never eat. I don't know if you gave me a plate of sweet potato fries at thanksgiving. I would fuck in hammer them. But like like scoops of like sweet potatoes. I don't know it just feels different to me. Even though it's not it's a white trash meal. It super easy uber cheap. And it would fit right in clancy household if you guys go. Here's what a sweet. Here's what a sweet potato casserole is to me. If you're drafting wide receivers sweet potato to me is a wide receiver who can fuck in like short wide receiver and run. I can't really get open. His face like a one dimensional casserole. Similar one dimensional would dave's trying to do with the sweet potato casserole here. Maybe the guy can't run his fa- like you're trying to combo these two things that are hard but like if you hit it on the head correctly dave it's a fucking homerun. I know that's a fucked up analogy but like we're drafting here guys. We're looking at the board. We're looking at prospects guy a little bit. I kind of see what you're saying. She didn't take take into good things to average things in hope. Making them one. Yes exactly taken to average things that are probably third or fourth round. Pick earned that they hit a home. Run in the second round at thank you. I'd agree there. It's i mean. I don't really love sweet potatoes in and of themselves but it's something magical happens when you combine them with those shitty cheap marshmallows. Some of their parts seat said good way. We did this together with greater summits teamwork to make the dream. That's our whole office me. Hang on a fucking island. When i'm making analogies saiki boys right so it's backs me. I'm very happy. I want pumpkin pie. Because i was. I was between that and aside. I thought dave is gonna take it. If you look at standard thanksgiving plate. Obviously you got your turkey. You got your mash. Get your cranberry sauce. You got your stuffing and there's always a nice role sitting right there as well. So i gotta take roles. I mean roles is an extra add onto the plate. It's a no brainer shocked. Dave didn't take it. But i'm very happy you passed on it so roles now does that mean Okay all right. I'm not even going to say that. Well no i guess. I got asked the question does that. Don't ask. don't ask it all right all right. I'm gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave is it has to do with future pick start. Ask it okay. I'll leave it alone so roles. I think it's a good pick. I think if you don't have a role your soccer. I think roles at confronts. Charlie oven if it's bakery. I like a bakery role that you go out you get fresh in the morning. Something you wouldn't do for regular i think that's better than homemade rolls when i say homemade roseau like the ones that you get from the store and you break off the bills very ones. Those ones are. Okay is a oh. Let's say relative to the role community if you were to go to dimples on lincoln avenue or going. Two's rest in peace or wolf's fakery in evergreen park. I'm preferential to the local bakery. Kevin i i say this with all respect. Fuck tinkle's gimme that pillsbury dough. Boy gimme that you gotta pop the candidate explodes. You roll it out. And then they get all golden and fluffy pillsbury i. Don't you speak of wanna go in line outside at seven. Am with a bunch of fucking sixty year. Old guys that got set on the get sanomat. Nah karen ron from the old lady. The neighborhood that w t keep it going with the fake stuff. And the clancy thanksgiving gave you that pills. Hurry at you. When you say roles get the dinkelspiel and you get the pillsbury mall baby. Do you guys gentlemen. Yeah do you guys do like appetizers if you will like Like like almost every family gets together. We do pigs in a blanket and even though. That's not necessarily like a thanksgiving vibe. We always have those out. I to the point that half the time. I'm like full before. We even sit down but the pigs in a blanket with the pillsbury as the as the role there. You wrap them up in that little shitty fucking meatballs. You buy like pre made and throwing the cartridge garbage. I love it the worst. What delicious in a toothpick in them and just eat them right. Yup shall clump your rolls. Roses rolls the pick. Dave are you mad. You passed on roles. No boy like i wouldn't. I wouldn't have picked roles in all. Because yes. And i don't wanna say why because i have something else or miceli i'll you're not a carnal now you got it. It's not married season quite yet. It has nothing to do with the carbs. The fucking calories and carbs counter. Thanksgiving me every jimmy. Can you need to win. You're uncomfortable and not embarrassed with how much eight boy like. You feel like you just did. You're like dude. I fucking hate this feeling. I'm going to go take an last until you're tired like the goal. Yeah Jeep do so trying to decide. How fucking irish. I want to be on the cast like do i do. I go potato potato back to back. I'll yeah Now all right. I'm gonna go with biscuits because i think when you took roles i wanna go biscuits biscuits or flakier. They're nicer your melt. The little pop off the top a little bit melt that butter on their biscuits over roles every single time i am including the next day. Like if you're gonna make a little sandwich. The next day the next morning you want those leftover biscuits slice them open again. Give me a biscuit overall any day. So i'll take biscuits with My second pick and better with the gravy to your shopping up gravy. You want that biscuit. Completely fucked up his drafts going rolls over biscuits. He did when we talk in south carolina. What were you mean fucking. Gimme rolls over. Biscuits care dude that biscuits every single day of the week and twice on sunday overalls on thanksgiving. I like you get the sheedy fucking pillsbury doughboy thing when you twist the can and patton pops it open. It's i come no better than rolls. They're just better than roles. Now fluffier martin chief. This is going away. South carolina can do have in laws from the south. I got my brother-in-law's from the south. My other brother in law's from texas so biscuits have become part of our Part of our thanksgiving in in like the last six seven years. But they're like their money and they're better the they just are like. There's no argument. As far as i'm concerned. Even dave knows it like like biscuits once you go to biscuit. You don't go back to roll. I couldn't agree more could backup. You're happy with that. I mean look it i. It's strange bedfellows. i'm not thrilled about it. But he is right or do you stand and biscuits. I rolls whose whose tickets right now. No but who's who's up next okay. I'm gonna throw a whole other wrench into the conversation. Because i'm going corn bread fuck. I'm doing core bread. On top of it. I would go. I would go. In general i agree with the biscuits idea being superior but i think that the crescent roll again the pillsbury when done right perfectly fluffy also almost more flaky. If you do them right then the biscuit on thanksgiving i would go. It goes biscuit pillsbury but then corn bread to me is on a whole other level because of the sweetness. It's almost like a little bit of a desert in a way you can almost kind of be its own. It's like the role and the biscuit is almost like extra. This is like its own side in my mind. Cornbread went dun-rite is is fucking fire. I love i love. I love corn bread. Like that's great. Pick on it was on my board. But i just i had to. Just go ahead to go biscuits. I don't. I don't hate the cornbread biscuits is an okay pick you mentioned it gravy biscuits and gravy kinda go hand in hand and by the way like i guess we're just assuming gravy is l. Were fucking not because with the tenth. Take the draft. I am taking gravy. What i saw in. Are we now saying that. The rest of us don't get gravy because we didn't draft in here because in my mind be all operating all saying without taking. I heard tales no gravy ira. Everybody's putting gravy on stuff gravy. Has its own dish. Someone's responsible for the gravy. It comes with its own dressing putting a fucking veto on. This is not a side so we're just not taking gravies not aside gravies a condiment. What you're not right. you're not wrong bobo. Carl said is true. And that's why i thought it had to be drafted but then nobody. I should have asked us. I should have clarified because it is something that you have to like. Carl said it's assigned to someone or it's like you know your grandma's the one who makes the gravy because she knows how to make the gravy if you fuck up the greedy it's problem it's not just like a condiment like oh you put catchup all you put mail. This is something that needs to be cooked and prepared in the right way so we don't wasn't prepared for this either. I wasn't prepared at office. I thought i thought this would come organically because someone say mashed potatoes and gravy and we will just have it i i. I'm sitting here like there's no way it's gonna go great. I mean you guys are reading off rolls biscuits. Cornbread sweet potato casserole raise all due respect. I'm sitting at home like wait. A second is tyler. Murray draft eligible. Jesse is Maybe i don't know how this works. So as the commissioner say. The committee is quiet. Right now. I want i like i like a democracy. I like to hear the people talk. We had one side. You don't eat greedy on. Its own shirt comes in. I think carl carl's taking gravy. We need to see video of him like spooning it into his mouth on. Yeah you gotta consume it that way. If it's a side that might otherwise. It's a sauce condiment that you eat all of that ends up on your plate you end up like scooping it in with the bread and like so. It's a side. You better eat it like a soup this this thursday so the arguments or this one. It needs to be an argument. For carl would be that it needs to be cooked and prepared and there's recipes and there's certain ways it's not just like generic the other argument is that you don't eat it so that it has to be some sort of condiment sauce accoutrements if you will because you don't just sit there and and spoon it right like no one. No one's drafting the charter. You put on your turkey like we're not draft like the turkey based because it's the turkey. Is the incident thanksgiving without gravy like not. It's not it's thanksgiving without turkey base. Let's not relegate gravy to turkey bay. Its own category. It's not aside. Aside is likes something that it's complementary complimentary. I think the turkey base analogies that actually perfect because you can eat all the other stuff you're not and you can in its turkey but it's with base and all might be one of those out of touch things i've ever heard to say thanksgiving exist without gravy. That's not what i said. That's where you're so. I said i said these dishes like you make them. You don't put the pre put the gravy on but the gravy is part of them and same thing with the turkey like you'll you can make a turkey but it'll be dry as faulk without that baster so you need to base the turkey the same way you need to put all your fucking gravy on these sites so you need to put gravy on the of what you're saying now. That's that's what i just said. That's what i said the whole hunt. Dave i agree. I mean tell me the what do you say. Take the potatoes out of your ears. Take your you got caused guy. Potatoes grown in his ears are now. he's being obtuse. Kfc de vito. I i mean i. I hate to be like middleman. Kfc but i see both sides of it. I mean i almost did draft it myself and then i just thought to myself while i don't wanna waste pick it sounds like everybody's already assuming the gravy but it was on my mind to go to draft the gravy but the whole you don't eat it by itself is a very compelling argument on the other side so you've got you've got two votes you got chief in white white sox dave saying no you've got karl obviously saying yes. I'm kind of a half. So i feel like you're the tiebreaker here. Whether it just goes a full three to one and a half or goes to two and a half over to know it takes to veto overrule something. I haven't officially arguments. While that comes down to the chief de vito or not his eddie do you veto i last. I am a tiebreaker shorts. No vote fucking back. Pusher out ever like you justice roberts issues in opinion. He doesn't just sit in the back chamber and say let me know when it's four two four. He's fucking sitting there roundtable. This is tough g four. Pull the trigger. I'm so this wasn't having opinion. One time i do have an opinion but why offer barada gang. Why should i look out for. You can't on these 'cause they just tell the truth and i presented the other side of the argument now. It's time to step up. I don't think gravy is aside. Oh that's pizza say veto cheap. Oh i'm going to argue against. You should be a fucking alderman like that's your that's your future. You don't take a stand anything just waiting waiting waiting around. So let's the politician. Ed this is. This is why you're the commission comment from you. You argued against it heavily immature often. I'd never vetoed fine. Fuck it veto. Chief dave veto sorted at kfc. Let the other side. Carl f. c. vetoed. No i again. I hate to be like this this middle of the road pussy. But i never been more fifty fifty on something in my life. I can understand the compelling argument for both sides. You know. I thought the honest with you guys the way fuck in chief drafted mashed potatoes but just left gravy out of the conversation the way white sox dave fucking slid up was like if you just slatter the sweet potato casserole gravy. That's what gravy with the roles men. Everybody is mentioned gravy in their picks. I honestly thought you guys were setting me up for this and now that it's happened in front of me. I mean setup. I think gravy is. It's nice by the rest of the one sack. Is he gonna get the gravy boat. He's going to drink. It isn't he. Would be thank. You know what. You don't want another argument is i mean you. Could i think right theoretically just get like cans gravy like pre made and just like you wouldn't you don't have to cook it right. I'm sure there's some like shitty already made version of the condiment. That's a nice gravy boat boy the because it's all fucking bolt but it's not aside my records show. I just went into my pantry or my cabinet cookware and pulled out a gravy fuck ball and it's not aside. I can't take in. The stressed will grant bernard you put up butter but not make. Nobody cooks butter. I mean you in turkey base boy off fucking plant thanksgiving dinner together. You and your butter. I mean it just a disgrace. The my aunt. Nancy specializes in the gravy on. My mom's side of the family shot nancy or the best so official veto say that. Make those chief. Chief and white sox day veto so we're gonna soda dead but he's much closer to say so what had said. Ed says it's not a side. But i'm not vetoing. What a bitch and already had two votes. I didn't need to. Can we put you down for green bean casserole here. what are we doing. Go fuck yourself as what you can do. All right. i heard some pies. They all fucking suck gone econ. Pie pecan pie. Second round around it. Out i i wanna roundtable is if i wanted around table. It i'd ask for your opinions about beacon by i. Don't give a fuck at this point. You guys told me gravies not aside. I do the teton pie on my own. Here econ pies delicious. It makes a play around. The holidays starts at thanksgiving. You might get a taste christmas once. That's fucking over pecan pie. Goes back to the fucking rafters. It's just like stuffing if we're building a plate that's authentic unique thanksgiving Nokes no offense. Chief mashed potatoes play tonight. Okay it's made it last night. But i made it last week. Read something pulls out. A katan suck in wednesday before thanksgiving. You're a psycho. Pass all right if you're in february and peacock pipe cinema the fucking looney bin pecan pie in the second round. I will now take descending. Opinions zaken vetoed. No you can have it but to say that you only pecan pie and thanksgiving just an unbelievably outright egregious. Even the most outrageous statement in draft history. While guess what. They've i'm passionate right now. I'm inflamed okay if i don't make any sense because i'm all fucking pissed off. This is bound to happen during these draft scott day i wanted stuffing gravy on the graphic so bad because if stuffing gravy away from there's just like no way i lose it's the same thing with sampler planet. Well yo sampler. Kfc is sampler platter and appetizer. Yeah in a draft. If you're doing you can just take everything well. I took a cigarette. Try to take sampler fire claus game. That's a big. It's a big fucking loophole. It's on the menu as an item that you can select but hegarty of a draft. You can't just pick something that as all of the fucking options you wanna talk to integrity talk to add. I have seen by the nfc. Welcome to the barada gang. You're you're admitted now with that because it is about an integrity. There are two things that go on with with barcelona chicago. That i that i sit back in the shadows and i watch and i have not spoken up. 'cause i got enough on my plate pun. Intended right now. When i see first of all baratas fire second of all i cannot believe it but i agree with white sox. Dave's movie opinions almost one hundred percent of the time it's crazy it's crazy every time the guy says fuck. I agree with dave on this one. So i myself i don't want to have. I don't want another fight i got. I'm fighting with countries and all sorts of shit. I don't need to be doing barada arguments. And i don't need to be doing then. Denzel washington arguments. But i'm on both your fucking sides on those like What's his name. Got to in in zoolander. The same damn look. Like i feel like i'm taking crazy. Polls that is washington. He's wrong looking movie. You're not wrong but both of those things. I like a good barada denzel. Great actor but often repeats himself. So i don't i don't even wanna be varada gang though. I just want out there. That i agree but i can't get into another fight all right. That's fine. we'll count you as an ally but right in the shadows exactly. You're sending us funding below the table below. I'll do like an hour and that's it all right this this draft right now. If someone's topics were on they have invented and tab so fucking far over on the microsoft word page. We're doing us at kappler platters vetoes. We just finished the second round match. Goes cam c. Will pencil the next time we do radio. Hq you're sticking around for another hour. You're coming on hassall shit out tom pies off. The board Carl you have another pick. I'm in okay. Go ahead veto. This was a source of controversy. I don't wanna take this threat. Is i go through this. Though i added. I had eleven i had to add biscuits and corn bread as you gotta strap. They were not my top eleven. There are two remaining items in my top. Eleven one is a desert. I will not say that desert. Although a lot of people have taken this desert for granted thus far. I'm gonna go mac and cheese. That's a last outside on the board okay. Well that was just a big discussion here in. Hq with the fuck in the guineas a mardi and rico and those guys were all arguing it so are we. I mean you can take whatever you want. Obviously i would say mac and cheese is delicious. I love it. But if i'm making a list of like thanksgiving right things i don't i don't ever associate those two things on my mind. Now this is the one thing for thanksgiving and we don't have this for my family. But i wouldn't judger say anything bad about family. Who did have mac and choose. I won't eat cheap mac and cheese. I think it's disgusting. I think it's inevitable like the powder. Jeez walking warble Have been white trash brother brother in arms and you just fucking bailed on us. I know it's i hate to admit it but like cheap like crack neck and she is just can't do it. It's well not at thanksgiving. If you're gonna do mac and cheese. I think that's a little bit not traditional but fuck is delicious. Who cares you can have whenever you want. But if you're going to do it at the thanksgiving table. I think it should be the kind where it's got a almost like a crust on top and got the crumbles you like a seven cheese or some shit like that but but just in general kraft. Macaroni and cheese is perfectly fine fuck off. I'm sorry i mean this is. Just it's it's i don't wanna say it's out of character because i i mean i do know it is it is i just like like easy mac. No won't eat. it won't eat. it won't touch it. Carl start about the good stuff. i mean. listen. It's a controversial opinion about whether it belongs but it belongs enough to say that it's not i don't anybody could beat that. Nobody like. it's just it's atypical. There doesn't make it bad it's always. It's always a part of our thanksgiving. So yeah like and it's like the good you have like the crispy bread crumbs on top. You throw it in the to get that cheese crisps stop. It's not like what you're talking about the like the it's gotta be. It'll be good. Mac and cheesiest poor poor that she's right in there throughout the ovens a great big great side some problem with that. I don't so good pick. kfc europe. I gotta go my desert. Pick here like i said desserts on thanksgiving to me or not really a big. I don't. I don't look forward to it as much as other desserts other times of the year. Not a huge pie guy. But there's one pie that usually ends up in my in my house. I guess it's like It's like a chocolate pudding pie. Is that a thing. It's like a pie. yeah. I guess it's like this chocolate pudding that she makes. Is that a generic thing. Do you guys know what your dog mo. That's desserts to me are going to be like a distant. I'll probably just eat more corn bread but a good chocolate pudding pie would be the only other pie remaining after the big three have been taken off chocolate pudding pie. That's right yeah. I think that's what it is. I have another word for it. I think but. I don't want to say it out loud in case it's not what i'm thinking of. I think you might as well. Just say i'm thinking french silk. That's what i thought too. Let me try to google it. fucked internet at the fucking. Let me use my phone real quick french. All i gotcha kissy. I was thinking. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah right okay. Sorry i mean that's what i'm talking about. Yeah the plays. That's when we write in front. Sorry doing now. Sorry day that. That is what i'm talking about is this did you just give. Kfc and assistant of french silk on the graphic. They've collusion going. On between the mets guy in the white star they just went from having a one point one item on the graphic to having an eight point six item on the graphics and they've just handed to him now is like that's like the lebron and d. Wade picture like that was. I mean your just threw me a sick allieu by an individual man's game islands. Listen don't well. He's a man of integrity and honor white sox dave and so i thank you dave. I'm not. I am not now. You're definitely not. That's why it's very funny. Still pile off the board while dave. That's there's another thing white trash you can get that for like five bucks at the local grocery store. We'll see that's how white trash. I don't even know the fucking name of it is just the chocolate with the cream and all that but yes french silk. Indeed it does. I mean i went from a chocolate pudding. Sounds like you're a homeless person french. Silk sounds like you're a college in. Yeah exactly sorry chief to you all right. I'm going desert in the third round as well Somewhere along the way. My mom stopped making apple pies and she started making apple chris. She actually made one for ed last year. I don't know why she just thinks he's a nice boy brought him and happened. I didn't get one but eh did so. Explain that But yeah apple chris. It doesn't have like that pie crust bottom but it's like the the filling is the same and it's got this crumbly on even know what the fuck it is she. I don't know how she makes it but it's like a common item but yeah apple crafts. I have to have a desert there in the third round. I'm going with apple. Chris was very good. I like the i mean. I think it's an awful pick personally. Because i don't even know what it is you're talking about. I mean maybe. I'll maybe i'll have to have my mom make you want to know it because i love apple apple a neat thing i love so i'm sure i would love it. I just don't think it'll play very well for this specific purpose. Because i don't think many people will just automatically notifies me. Well how about this. My mom listened to this show. So i'm not gonna say anything to her but i'll see you this weekend. Probably when i come home from thanksgiving. I'm sure marianne who is listening right. Now we'll make you wait. Delicious apple chris and then you can get on board and say how great you can vote for me and the ask myself but dave. You've got an apple. Chris come your way guaranteed love that it moved a good move art apple chris all the board anything else. Kfc carl no. No yeah okay all right so it's to me now i need. I'm probably going to go with another side Can i do this. I think i should be able to but I'm gonna go corner casserole. We've ever had that. Don't know what that is but very good you're saying because it differentiates enough from corn bread. I would say yeah. Totally different thing casserole. Yeah it's me. I don't even really noted this so it's like It's like i. It's it's like the the the corn there and it's just like you know it's all the energy. Yeah that's an act. We don't have it. But i have had it before. It's very good. It's very good yeah. I'm a big fan of it Kitties to meghan a 'cause all time it was fire So i mean. I don't casserole vic. Cornerback backwards is awesome. But sometimes it's too dry. You don't have that problem. Corn cats also In doing thing exactly it's very very good So that's my pick and Mytalk dave no one has anything else. So i don't have anything else if anybody else wants to. Ed something sneaky. Good pick I do think it's also a little atypical. I don't know if that's like you know a common in amongst most americans on thanksgiving I'm gonna go so. I gotta go with my second side This is for this. Sole purpose of it's it's got the little cream texture and its severe. I gotta go at green bean casserole. I think it's like i think it's perfectly fine third or fourth round pick. I feel like some people swear by green bean casserole. I so some people. It's like they're number one. Some people some people absolutely. I think it's it's fine. It's good it is synonymous with thanksgiving. It's just like my favorite side. Personally boy igwe love green beans. But i green bean casserole. You get that first unions the crispy bacon you mix it all together a little gravy. It's fucking it's a great side. Saw getting that in the third round. I mean it's always on my plea. Whenever whenever i post my blog like a lot of people argue that my shits to basic or two white trash in the first thing they always say is. There's always a huge outcry for green bean casserole. So i think a lot of people are gonna think that's like incredible value for your last pick. That's where that's where. I had to go with right there. I couldn't let it get to the next round. Even though i have an expert speaking my next pick. I'm going to go into the Worst person is sitting next to you category. I think we can all relate here in some fashion. It's the fucking weirdo asshole. Dickhead drunken Maybe he's got some mental issues. Uncle just Just a weird uncle so just your uncle to uncle. No it's like. I have uncle wanted to see like we. The in you know and we get along. We shoot the shit about sports. We get drunk together. Yeah you know what else is happening so right now right now. There's an uncle listening watching this going. Wait a minute. I don't watch sports with dave so fuck that's me doesn't listen to this podcast. It'll into the laugh. Amelia day. W as i do have the weird uncle. He's got a lot of issues. And i can promise you. He has no idea what the fuck parcel sports is. You know funny. Though is i can almost assure you that one day you will be the weird uncle. I mean i already am. Yeah all right so you go future here aggregate today and i got my sister to give her a hundred bucks. That's my worth weird uncle so yeah the weird uncle joe's ever like you know you have to see him. You're like dreading aca. Fuck oncle so is going to be at thanksgiving so weird uncle to be clear. Weird uncle all right fair enough. Dave all right so it's back to me i'm gonna stay in the same category Nothing derails in halts a fucking thanksgiving conversation quite like the person table can't fuck fucking here. i listen. I sympathize with you if you can't hear but holy shit if it's just if you're listening anyway so fuck them. I know but it's like if you're sitting next to them and they're the ones pipe gain here you know it's like shut up like just just eat your food. Keep it moving. They just derail everything. I i actually am this guy at the bar or across the table. I know it. So i just so. I just don't like engaged. I can't hear well so just like my food. I'm not going to be like. Yeah i just like we're not gonna talk. We're not gonna talk. it's fine. I you get out of the way the subtle you just answer yes always always a laugh or chuckle or yes or no. Ask dude real talk. I just can't shitty years. Yeah i took a stab in the dark. I said there's a sixty percent chance you're saying something kind of funny so i decided to laugh. Sorry i was wrong and if you guys can say it's the worst though when you're with someone who can who can hear worse than you like you just just constantly derails. I get if you get one like what'd you say. And maybe if it's an important conversation maybe a second like wait one more time and then i mean then that's it. Maybe you get to like help me out here in otherwise then the conversation just for you. It is usually it's a grandparent. And sometimes you get frustrated. I can't hear what he's saying. Throw their hands. I came here him like someone else's fault yet the fuck it and doesn't let's keep it moving we doing But yeah so. Hard of hearing person is mine. The person can hear. Take thank you call g to me. I feel like there's a ton of worse people. Maybe that's just my thanksgiving experience with a shot at my own family but All right. I'm gonna go. I don't know what to call this like a like the nervous cook. But it's like your your cousin or somebody a girl in her early twenty s mid twenties who decides like oh. I'm going to start like cooking and bringing thanks for participating in that process and then it's like. Oh is this good. did you like it. did you like it. did you like it. And nobody's eating my thing so then you get guilt guilted into eating something to be nice when you really just want to throw more mashed potatoes on there so like i don't know what to call it other than like the nervous or like the first time that's like She she would be the buffalo chicken dip girl at the super bowl. Yes yes yes. She's now at thanksgiving right. I know and then yeah you have to fake it you like. Yeah it's terrible fucking away. Just a good rule of thumb. If you made some that's fucking fire you're going to know we were going to take a bite all my god who made this is great if no one's saying anything you're just sucks pretty much right if it's still there. You didn't do a good job a great answer. I'm trying to think of how we put down the try. My dish person. Yeah like i have nervous cook written bit but yeah like try dish. I don't know how to the experiment like thanksgiving experiment. thanksgiving first-timer. Like i don't know i cook. Yeah all right there you go. That's a good one chief cam see her. I'm going to go with worst person to sit with. I'm going to go with a native american. Just any old native american any anybody from any of the tribes. I would not want to be sitting with them and my white s family on thanksgiving you. Can you rate a little bit can i. What can you elaborate a. I would think that the conversation would not be great bummer. I could see yeah. It'd be a little bit of a downer You know we're trying to talk about football and we're debating about whether or not gravies a dish and they're like talking about the trail of tears. So yeah i'm going to go with anybody. Who makes me feel like you know the genocidal awful people that we are the native american high toga gen ad at the university of illinois are are all like our team name is the fighting align i and there's like a heavy native american presence. One of my gen eds was a native american studies class and it was a young really cool teacher. Progressive guy it was a great class guy was a illuminated us into you know so much of like the prejudice and the awful stuff that has happened to him and like crazy stuff. You wouldn't even know about take class to thanksgiving break with a great lecture. And he and i like little report i'm leaving. I'm like yanni plans for thanksgiving break. And he was like. Yeah my also called. Thanks taking no or not. It was the most it was so unintentionally awkward and he was cool about it but how serious he was like. We don't talk in celebrate. The ship might not i listening but it was like a holy shit moment. So i if you watching this on. Video is encourage you. It comes out on thursday. Or whenever that is on video like the mic. Drop real but the point i think is. I think it's actually like you're the guilt you know you're saying the guilt is overwhelming kfc. Is that what. I'm picking up on yet pretty much. I mean it's never gonna really happen for me. There's nobody in. My life was a native american but that would be. That would be my least favorite guest. Ya graphics trouble read. It's you're just saying what everybody's thinking about a hand up hand up. I was not thinking was not what everybody was thinking back for or back. Two thousand and ten man deb. Nascar we delete that carl to worst person to sit in aksu. Somebody's new boyfriend or girlfriend. Great answer ruutel just like you have to be nice. If it's your brother your sister. That's cool i would. I don't have sisters. But i just know like sibling as one. It's like if it's a cousin that's even worse or would you prefer a girlfriend or a boyfriend. Probably the girlfriend. The boyfriend would. I'd just like trying to get in like yes so like would you major in arrogance theoretically you can. Just be so like also. Do you watch the crown like the guy would be to cool. The other thing is like it also extends to like maybe like a bad divorce in the family. Your aunt or your uncle is like bringing someone around be nice. To so-and-so they met at church you know he's a good dude girlfriend over the age of forty something is like. Oh yeah it's all in almost no case. Is it good on lasts. It's like someone like kinda famous where it's like. Hey you hear so. And so like her. Dad is actually friends with the guy and then you become a person like you told me that. When he owns like the box you know digging. Nba thought for the most part. It's not good good. Pick your pick high. Your fifth rounder last round this category. No one's going to draft anybody without getting fucking shit on so it's repeat. The category is one gust historic famous. Whatever you want to say. It's one guest when guests you'd like to have at your thanksgiving i'm taking theo epstein You might be asking now. That's i fuck you caves. He's taken the. But i mean like that's easy. That's a personal thing for me. But also i think that's sensible is is any any you like sports of good guests as somebody that can come and can sick and talk to different people so fucking burrow out counterpoint. He's kind of a fucking lunatic. You hear those stories of him like you know when he used to listen to the fucking planes crash and he used to wander around boston and follow people home and you know he's a little bit wacky. I dunno if you're gonna get just like no conversation are they. Everybody has negative stuff if someone were to drag me into. I want to have carl over at thanksgiving. Well that's a fucking bad idea because is a loose cannon. But i would. I would want a the thing about thanksgiving is when you get your pocket at the table in the story. Start rolling a special not want someone who doesn't cause too much fuck in. Just come in and say hi to everybody like but at this without like you have to fit into a family atmosphere which can be chaotic but the other thing is like i just want to let loose with the scene right now and he also likes on his way out of town. It'd be nice to have like in my house for thanksgiving. Be like a you know. I saw ryen. Russillo tweeted at the other day. Saying that the one of the greatest living americans. And i kind of fucking agree with him. If you're a dude who's who's broken to baseball curses for two major cities in america. He's done more for a huge chunk of people in two important cities. Then a lot of people in this in this country's history. So i i'm with you on that pick and i hope on last thing i would say he's not be last thing i would say is he hung out with him. He has great questions among them limited times. I've hung album. He has phenomenal questions in. If you're the new person in a group one of the best things you can do is ask questions to people. Just sit there and listen. I agree with that. The only thing that sticks in my mind about him is that portnoy story where he went to a party in. Theo was just like sitting in the corner playing guitar by himself. That's not a guy you want at your party. Okay yeah you have to get good deal. You get good theo. That's a home run if you get like Follow you home and play guitar. Then that gets a little bit tough so here safe you. You don't want well. that's not even here. Say he said that like those quotes about following people home. That's sitting in the car. You know whatever stave off the board. kfc I'm going to go with the guy. I often go with for a lotta these my. I want number one at my dinner table. I would let him just completely take over the dinner table. He can tell the stories he can run the conversation. I like in his older age. As you've gotten away from as he started retiring and get away from sports. He's gotten more political so you would get politics. Set your dinner table with mike francesa dominating the conversation it would get more awkward and more. He's just it would be for a guy like me who grew up on them anytime. There's a scenario of breaking bread talking conversation and shooting the shit. He's he's the only choice number one for a reason. So gimme mike and you know he can put a hurt on the thanksgiving day table. You know he's gone for thirds and fourths and fifths like loaded up. Get some more french. Silk row loaded up. Okay like see an correct me if i'm wrong. He strikes me as the kind of guy that will open the oven at someone else. If your house is doable movement and allowable but they'll open up the oven just because he is mike. Francesca is number. One it's like. Take a spoonful of stuffing right from the turkey and be like like napa that anybody else south how he would like this needs more salt or like this. This is overcooked like you know. Have julio me another turkey because this one is all become garbage. He would he would take over the whole fucking operation me mike any day. Any holiday mike. I'd love to celebrate with you but give me a mike. Francesa thanksgiving version. Oh baby. I love france to pick he. Would you had hair here. None of the Football opinions either. None none To pick so brandt francis off the board chief to you. I struggled with this one. The one that i was. I i only had one name on my board and it was giada because you're going to have like a little bit of a horny pick but your food is going to be unbelievable That day but now after hearing those. I'm i'm like wavering. I'll just go at yatta. I'll go with you oughta stick to you. Know i'm a guy been jauregui for forever it's going to be you're going to have a fucking bomb ass meal. You might have to listen to her. Say like spaghetti or those fucking weird. What about this though. Do you think that it's almost like if you if you were like. Oh i wanna to date a masseuse. Because she'll always give me a good massage. You think that these chefs like hate thanksgiving that it's like there one day where they're like. I don't wanna fucking cook for all barriers. Dvr thanksgiving special. It looked fucking great. So i think she goes to town like she knows it might even be like her. Super bowl suspect her presence. Elevate other people will in the kitchen or do you think it makes her nervous like fox now. She's in everyone. I think it's one of those. It's one of those like you have a captain. She's the captain and then she kind of guides everybody else so you're she raises everybody's game. That's why see by the way. I can see in the in the chef celebrity chef world. I bet they fucking hate her. 'cause she's pretty she's hot and she's thin like some of the other women who are maybe not as aesthetically pleasing must be like fucked yada. I would absolutely hate her right. If you're like the paula deen or some shit. You're like fuck nece girl. Yeah that's why all the rumors come out like well. She takes her food and then spits. It soon spits spit out the cameras. Turn off so yeah. That's what the rumored the haters that kansas talking about. They make up all kinds of salacious rumors about her. Wow gee i mean. I'm not surprised but got not a great pick by him right. Dave i mean. It's the thanksgiving draft. I think. I i have someone that i'm gonna take and after about a little bit. I think he'd be just so dominant at the table. I just get sick matter minute. Why giada would be like that. I don't think outside the box is the cooking factor. So i give her come yet. That's fine pick. Let's for thanksgiving draft. Yes i think. I think it's actually pretty good. Pick that said. I don't know if enough people know who she is. I think she's got a pretty high. I whatever our audience. I'm not positive. Maybe i've i've blocked her a lot. So if people people are clicking on the blogs and they should know who she is taken dave's know us off to me. I'm between two people man. That's a really fucking toffoli. Ones like a selfish pick. Just because i'd like to share a meal with the sky. But one i think is gra is better for the greater good of thanksgiving table from an entertainment standpoint. I don't think you could put anyone at the table. Maybe like a good comedian. But someone who's not a comic. Then charles barkley. And just have him roast. The food roasted gas and roast the table to the oven. It would be nonstop laughs and do it in a way where he's not a jag off. That's a great pick. I think he's two at thanksgiving to like with a typical white family. That doesn't do anything his family. And i bet you chuck barkley before. He's done man. I wanted to do a podcast. Or or show of some sort where he gets a few in them and he really cuts loose and he tells all the untold stories all of them. Not even like the ones you might kinda no third hand the ones that are deep deep in the vault. I'm sure he's got the best stories in the fucking world it'd be great hit and over. I think he's one of the smartest guys around And if i like if i was starting an mba organization from scratch. I truly truly would go after him as my gm. That's how like. I really think he's that intelligent and he's got that good of brain. I know his goofy and he's funny like you've got to kind of dig underneath a little bit. But i think he's at smart. And i think he's added. You're seeing i would. He's an. I don't even like the nba or baseball in general really. He's on my mount rushmore people. I want a drink with one hundred. It added dive bar. Bob questions get stories out of him. Homerun pick by it right. They're very happy with barclay. He'd be very funny. So thank you. Dave i mr alvin. It's such a tough category. 'cause this is i just said like my mount people. I'd like to drink with and lab questions to a kind of goes hand in hand with thanksgiving. Because that's what you're doing. You're just sitting around town stores bullshitting with people the inaugural cover. I gotta go hawk. Harrelson is like if you read his autobiography. Which no you did. I did He's literally forest. He's been in every single situation on earth and when we talk to him when we interviewed him for red line radio a couple years ago. He's like yeah that that book was like ten percent of the stories. I got frank sinatra. Him hookers los angeles. He was like he's been shot. At multiple times he's been he's written on air force one with three different presidents. He has been in every single situation ever Like aj krzyzewski said. He's forrest. gump. I think he would be awesome at thanksgiving by eventually. Get sick of him because he just such a dominating human that it'd be like all right enough hawkins off the band's kicking in i wanna do is be falsely like the five thirty halftime football game whatever's playing like i wanna take a low net. Just chill the fuck out or go on. But it's hawk harrelson like he's right up. There is someone. I have to drink with one day. No surprise the white sox. Dave pick when expect anything else. Pick for you dave talk harrelson. I'm gonna roll. Throw one more time. We'll do honorable mention. Get outta here. carl had Stuffing pecan pie. Mac and cheese The new boyfriend girlfriend of one of your family members Theo epstein kfc had cranberry sauce corn bread. French silk pie native american. Mike francesa Chief head mashed potatoes. Biscuits apple chris. The try dish person and yada eddie had pumpkin pie. Cornbread casserole hard of hearing person. charles barkley white sox. Dave had apple pie sweet potato casserole green bean casserole oncle and hawk harrelson. I'll say it right now. I don't think anybody's running away with this draft. And i don't think anybody's draft us horrible going to be interesting. Pretty easy evenly matched across the board. I know political person was taken. But i was. I have ben shapiro on my list as worse to sit with But yeah you would've thought would be somebody in there. But i don't think you'd be that bad. Because of his opinion asia. Swirly fucking insecure asshole. That just has to shove his political opinion down your throat. I have a honorable mention for worse as well. The cousin who anybody in your family who doesn't really know sports but tries to do like the football talk or and i'm and i'm trying to be polite. You know they're like oh they should definitely gone for it on fourth down. You're sitting there like no they fucking like are you crazy but you have to just be like yeah man. Yeah you're right there. I know man rather than get into a huge argument you know you're just going to dominate them in. But they don't get it. That's the worst. I hate that guy. The guy who doesn't know sports but acts like he does like that once a year. And it's on thanksgiving with right. It's like shot up man. That guy is also similar and sometimes it's the same person with the person who won all their bets all day. They don't know anything but they're up. You know a thousand. And you're just fucking. You're killing yourself honorable mention for me for worst person. Anyone who's left handed like if you're sitting around and crowded inner table and aac they they do it backwards and it's just like i can't believe i got stuck next to for me. It was my cousin. Brian fucking cousin bryant with his left hand eating. All your every thanksgiving sucks. So i didn't you take that chief. 'cause left-handed people hate themselves because of that inconvenience. It's a it's an inconvenience for rocks. What about one of the best mix who is your roommate. Hey hated person. I had all the taste tester one. Yeah i left. You would have been the pick really might be one of the great picks in that would've been one of the great lakes and dog while drafts. Yeah yeah up. Because i'll show you. It is a habit. The first thing i wrote down and maybe just over thought it was the black friday. What the in. Both my parents are lefty or the black wednesday guy. Lilian lindsay mike. I have just quick quiche. i love quiche. gets enough playing time. Desert everybody takes cream for granted. You guys were saying mode. I don't think you're allowed to put the ice cream on the final issue. Draft the ice cream on. That's the nila. Bean that plays that was ason Pies i was left with kind. And then i want to address Historical leaders quickly washington and lincoln. Those wooded that valid draft picks the reason that was. Don't play obviously because it's like. Oh that's up. Those guys suck wants washington. Lincoln around washington was the first obviously notable american leader to make thanksgiving like kind of a big deal. It was like hey guys thanksgiving like he was quoted about. It was talking about the importance of post harvest getting together. The lincoln's the one who actually made it a national holiday in eighteen sixty three as a big fucking. The obviously now lincoln gets be for that washington gets a beef for making a big deal. Those would have been the two biggest oracle means. I'm done with my honorable. I was about to draft. Jesus like hey you're on booze. Just him like brun. The tap water and turn it into wide a gallon. Yeah it was called the last supper for reason dave. I don't think he's coming back for. Thanks also we said the guest you take in. We've talked about in the office and no one drafted it. Oh the guy from work who like can't travel almost like. Hey you're close enough like yeah. Okay the to personal aunt like who you dating. Where's your girlfriend that that that's the went back to new york tom. That could have been you at my thanksgiving. So it's the the friend co worker. Whoever that you offer a completely fake offer to come over they take you up on it. I mean i didn't really gonna come and sit here. I was just trying to be polite. Are you fucking crazy. You're going to sit here and be like the eighteenth nineteenth wheel from my family. Fuck off what. Kind of asshole accepts an invitation to thanksgiving. I mean crazy. that's crazy. I wish i could just be like i'm going to sit by myself and just like binge-watch and whatever the fuck i want. I don't have to do thanksgiving if you turned down. That opportunity asshole other guests. I thought about. I just loved the fucking chair. Pumpkin pie with that guy. r.i.p Gentlemen this is an honor. Important to be a part of. And i'm very happy. Got the invite yeah was big thanks. Kfc we appreciate it. Matthew got him in. Whenever i'm died that's it. That's the thanksgiving drafts. Everybody that's for today. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll see you then.

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How about you is Marlins fan, I mean is, is it not exactly what we kind of expected? Like a below, five hundred team that can fight because they got some young guys that are somewhat decent, but not a team that's going to contend for anything in the near future now, and we'll talk more about that later. We have a good bleach or tweet regarding it ex Marlin. We're going to hear from Josh. In fact, in Todd radio's weekly uniform contest. He's won a head of me. I hope he doesn't get to Adamy. We'll hear from Francisco door and Indians manager Terry Francona, but I, it was a rough weekend for shortstops. Let's get to it. The grim state of Maine, famous for lobster, and. Well, at least Jerry Crasnick from there. It's time for the main man. Jerry Crasnick on baseball tonight. Jerry Crasnick covers baseball. Free SPN Jerry to baggage claim Monday, which means there's usually travel involved with the podcast and today making my way back for from the airport through heavy traffic. Just north of LA Guardia. How you doing today doing well, how are you doing. Doing okay, but you know, we'll, we'll be it's a, it's a slog. We'll be doing a podcast on the move today and and you have to start with this the potential injuries to shortstops in the American League. We saw what happened Didi gregorius over the weekend and what a freak play on Saturday on the plane, which they actually clinched a playoff spot. Aaron Hicks was at the plate DD regards who's on base, and this is what happened. Linhart it that will appeal on rolling to the left Beal, Twitter, extra-base in TD rounds. Third, they're going to send him stating, here's a real pro, not in time over these win. They click a playoff spot in twenty eighteen. Ready, doubled by Aaron Hicks over the bag at third end of the corner. And I, yeah, Anki win three to an eleven inning. That was John sterling on WFAN on Saturday, Jerry well on Sunday after d did not play Aaron Boone announced to reporters the DVR glorious on that play at home to with the winning run to clinch a playoff spot, suffered torn cartilage in his right wrist. And if you look at a replay of it, it does. You could see he got his right hand caught in the dirt as he slid headfirst into home plate. He never pauses. He stood up to celebrate with his teammates, but the Yankees new after the game that there was a potential injury there. And what Aaron Boone told reporters is it's possible that Didi regardless may not play again this year given listen to Aaron Boone speaking with reporters. After Sunday's game, we were meeting. Is he okay? He's he's got tore some cartilage wrist on the slide home yesterday. So he he, he had an MRI today and then treat it with a cortisone shot today. And then he'll be reevaluated in a few days. How you what are your up, which optimism that you'll have him back on? Sure. I think there's a real possibility. We do. You know, there's also a possibility that we don't will will know a lot more in a few days and see how the risk response to to the cortisone shot. Yeah, Jerry Di Gregori spoke with reporters after Aaron. Did he spoke very, hopefully about what might happen. He thinks he's gonna wind up being back in the playoffs. But you do wonder if he's going to be okay, I write risks for a shortstop. It could affect his defense. It could affect his offense. That is a devastating blow for the Yankees. If they advance pass Oakland in the postseason, you know you, you wonder how they'll be able to hold up without him because you remember last year and he helped them win the wild card game with that big first inning home run against the Minnesota Twins. He was the guy hitting in the middle of the the right handed hitters at the top of their lineup. He's so steady defensively, yes, they have gleyber Torres as an option to play shortstop and he's a young player who in the time he played short this year made a lot of mistakes. Yes, they have dania to rea- you know, nice pickup by the front office just before that August thirty first deadline. But neither one of those guys are what DD resorts has been to the Yankees shortstop. No. And. That was a, that was a great segment with the interview. You know, is he okay? Is he okay? The. His car house had to be pulled out of him in bits and pieces there a little bit. And you can tell by the tone of Aaron Boone's voice how difficult that was to to mouth those words. But he is a guy who's just been such a such an important player for them since his arrival. And it's just such an important position busters, you know, you know, shortstops just it's difficult. I mean, they're, they're a lot of guys. You're gonna miss is you get to the postseason, but a guy like that is such a two way threat. It really is a major disruption, and we've seen what kind of impact he can have an October. So just a bizarre circumstance and and unfortunate injury at a bad tone. And that's when they're definitely going to have to keep an eye on. Yeah. And so the Yankees lose their shortstop. And then during our Sunday night, face ballgame. Game between the Red Sox and the Indians. Sandra Bogart's was at the plate for the Red Sox. He's playing as we go down the stretch out, supports done a great job during the regular season. Resting is guys, he feels like he wants to get them on a roll as they go into the postseason. Sandra Bogart's began this game closing in on a personal milestone. Ninety five RBI yet is ninety six early in the game. And then this is what happened during the game. Give a lesson. Still want to to Bogart's. Alex Cora wants to go take a look. Fouled that one right off his ankle. That was in a leave a Mark. And even though the the foul ball was off his foot or ankle. Wasn't at all missed him altogether. It's the shoulder that they're attending on Mogo arts, and I love this move here by Alex Cora. That's it. Do not take any chances with your all star shortstop. Zander Bogart's frustrated because he wants to stay in, but this isn't the facet you back through. This is the game that you battled through. He wants to stay in. And you could see Jerry that the Alex Cora and I was watching him in the Red Sox dugout. He immediately emerged because in the previous pitchy kind of flex his his front shoulder, his left shoulder and his swing after the swing is he is reacting to something, and then he did it again. And then Alex came out and he was actually halfway to home plate and he turned it back into his trainer like, hey, follow me, we, we've got some work to do here. So they went out. They talked to him according to the what Alex told reporters after the can dede- really did fight him. He wanted to stay in, but they got him out of there. And you know Jerry a shoulder injury for a hitter boy that that is a concern and you hope that he's okay moving forward. I mean, forget the personal milestone at this point, and I'm sure that he probably will be kept out of the lineup, but I think the greater concern is you wanna make sure he's ready for the postseason. Yeah. I mean, that's another one that's huge. And you know, I thought this at times when I've watched the Red Sox play this year, they score a lot of runs and their offense, but it's really not a super deep lineup. I mean, you have obviously bets Benintendi, JD Martinez and and Bogart's. And then then you talking about more role player type of guys, you know, Mitch, Moreland and Jackie Bradley, and and you know, Rafael Devers maybe third or Brock hold or Steve piercer run through the list. I mean, it's he key guy for that team. And again, they're probably even less equipped to sustain a loss to him than the Yankees are took a Goria so many talking about sue way Lynn or Brock hold, or you know, they don't really have a another shortstop on their roster, can get them through. Large running our Tober. So that's a potentially huge one. And it is nice to have. You know, cleanse didn't have the final week to be able to sip the guy, but still, you know if it's an injury that of any severity five or six days really isn't gonna help that much. So that's another one you're going to have to keep a pretty close eye on. I just hope that this is something that maybe is just a few day flare up that that he can get past to be be himself because they're going to need him at October. Yeah. And and look, I mentioned about how I feel like Alex has done a really good job of resting Red Sox. Regulars during the season he's intention is absolutely at this point, push it through to the end of the regular season because of that because guys just built up that that's that rest. And he knows that there are a few days coming off coming up in which the. Red Sox are going to be off because they're going to be waiting for the wild card winner to come back. And he also said this with a smile, he would not at all mind. He wouldn't be brokenhearted. If the Yankees had to play the wild card game out in Oakland because no matter who would win that game, Jerry they'd have to fly across the country overnight. He'd loved to complicate their lives, which is why next weekend. When they host the Yankees at Fenway park, he fully intends to push all the way through. But I don't think that that's going to have anything to do that plan have anything to do with his handling Zander Bogart's he's gonna give Sandra's much recipe needs to try to get that shoulder, right? And another one that's really developed over the last couple of months, the shortstop of the Houston. Astros Carlos Correa did not play over the weekend. He's got only five at bats in the last week. He's been dealing with his back issue the last couple of months. He's batting only two thirty eight. He did an interview with the Houston chronicle over the weekend. It, which he basically said, you know, this is the toughest year of my life because I've been dealing with this injury. He just does not look like the same player. Jerry since he's had this, and let's face it to me a one of the one of the issues that the s was really going to have to be dealing with in the postseason is overcoming a lot of these nagging injuries that these regulars have been dealing with. Yeah, you know another team that at least you know, they're, they're so deep and versatile you have bregman could play short Davao was, but you really would love to have healthy productive, Carlos Correa. We saw what an influence he can have last year in the postseason in the World Series, and you know the narrative for the us or there's been pretty positive a little last month. I mean, the bullpens pitch. Great. They're the starting all lined up. The offenses been good to winning games, tielerwaard Santa contribution. You know, it's, it's a team that seems to have everything going well, but that's one that is a little bit darn thing. You know, just to lose him. He can be such a big car in the middle of that order. And it looks like something he's going to have to cut his way through for the rest of this year. And. It's just tough to expect. I mean, the off season or the postseason so long that any kind of injury I think is is just difficult. I mean, the guy can maybe get through a couple two or three games with one of these nagging type of things, but expect the play at that level for three and a half weeks. So whatever they're going to have to play for is a lot to expect what guys not right physically. So some tough news for some of the American League contenders Metairie just being around the Cleveland Indians over the weekend. It's like they're checking all the boxes. We get closer to the start of the play offs. They force win the division running away. It's the season probably has been a slogged for them because they haven't had a lot of juice in their games during the course of the year. But they seem to be gathering some momentum as we get closer to the postseason and look all the things that seemingly need to go right for them for. Now, are you start with Josh Donaldson who day by day by day he looks more and more comfortable in wouldn't talk to Terry Francona before the game on Sunday. He mentioned about Josh boy. He looks like he could help us at ton. They talked about how he's defense has gotten better in his at bat. You know, the beginning, it was kind of ugly after joined the Indians, and then he began to take walks, and then he started hit the ball, the right center field. And now he's swinging with con. It's in the game on Sunday ninety. He was right on a pitch. He just missed and you could see from his reaction that he was like t's right there. So very positive there. He's also running the basis. Well, talked to chrysanthemum ETI on Saturday who heads baseball ops for the Indians, and it was the first thing he mentioned for players had a lot of cafes shoes. He talked about how Donaldson is running the basis well, so that's going well. Andrew Miller seems to be getting back on track his velocity, solid ninety, four to ninety seven miles per hour. Terry Francona did mention that they love to see him get into the flow of his outings a little bit more quickly as he's come back from his deal stint. It's taken him a certain number of pitches to get going finds it. And that timeframe seems to be getting shorter and shorter. Maybe the big issue right now that they're dealing is what did they do? Which wherever Bauer, as he comes back, he made his first appearance on Friday off the disabled list. He looked good through thirty seven pitches. I. Was the number, but the internal debate for the Indians is, do you store them or do use them out of the bullpen you Trevor? First off, he's was one of the best guards in the American League before he got hurt, but also he's a physical beast in the postseason. I think there is some attraction to the idea of having him available day after day after day, because he's a guy who can throw it seemingly every day for one or two or three innings. He's a great weapon for the postseason. What are you seeing the Indians. Yeah, that's really an interesting question. You know, the other three guys kluber across go clever juror and they all had two hundred strikeouts. Right? So I think the first team to do that, so you know if they can use him in that role, that would be a huge weapon. I'm not sure what his mindset is. I mean, he was, he was look, you know, up there with sale as young front runner until he got hurt. So how does he feel about what he buy into something like that? I'm not sure you know, but they, they had toyed I think at times with maybe going with the three man rotation, I know kluber and and Bauer could both do it, but him being in the bullpen. That's sort of an interesting thing to contemplate the one issue that they do have that I've seen though is Jose Ramirez really hit has been pretty bad. For about a over a month. You know, he hasn't hit well and you look at their lineup, and it really is just deep. Now before I think earlier this season, you saw three or four guys at the top of the order, and that was it. Now, all of a sudden and cannot Sione seems to be swinging. Well, law goes had a pretty good season. You know, kipness has started to head appears to be embracing this move to center field and obviously Donaldson you know, they've gone from a sort of a top heavy lineup to a much deeper lengthier lineup. But Ramirez is a guy who I think he has one home run since mid August, and I'm not sure whether what that is you around them, busted you, did you discern anything on why he doesn't seem to be swinging that? Well, lately, you know, changing positions or what might be the issue. But I, I think that's the guy they really need to get straightened out the next week. Yeah. And there's no question about that. And there's confidence because of his personality and his work ethic that he's going to be able to do that, but you're right that that's going to be a big one that you another guy who's also helped out with a depth to their lineup. Milky Cabrera Terry Francona just raved about him and that consistency. But when you give down to in that lineup, you know five, six, seven, eight there. No easy outs when you're talking about Donaldson and kipnis milky Cabrera, you know, an opposing pitcher having to work through some experienced guys. So I'm feeling good. Jerry about my preseason, pick the Indians to win the World Series. Yeah, you've been on them for a while. Hey, look, if the Browns could win a game. I think this could be. Yeah, it's flew Cleveland magic. Yeah. I know my brother's back in New England to be excited so that American League is just going to be a guard lead, even what the injuries and the things that you mentioned. I mean, it's those series are just gonna be killer series, whether it's the Yankees or the as come out of that wildcard. I mean Boston's a team that's setting a franchise victory, Rick record. Houston looks like such a complete team, and I think I think that's also helped Cleveland a little bit. You know, they're, they're a little bit of the dark horse. This year. Everybody's paying attention to everybody else in last year. They were the team that won, you know, was twenty two straight games and everybody was sorta talking about them. Nobody's really talking about them and and sometimes that's a good thing. Yeah, hundred percent of by the way the line of the weekend when we met with Alex core before Sunday's game, I asked him how he's handling the question of who should be the American League. MVP of course, JD Martinez in Mookie Betts. Dupe is players are considered to be among the finalists, and he answered it. I have twins and I love them both. That was the perfect response if you're a manager, right? Yeah. I mean, I look, I, I'm on board with Mukhi. I just think through his all around the bution. But boy, I mean, JD Martinez. He's such an incredible hitter. It's just amazing to think that you know, sometimes people talk about these, these moves you do or don't make and look when the Red Sox get JD Martinez. I mean, there was talk of, hey, get air Cosmo to play first base and they held out and get JD Martinez for what five years. One hundred ten million met looks like a pretty good bargain right now. He's just an. Amazing hitter and he's just made all the difference for that team. Yeah, especially considering that Eric hosmer got what one hundred forty, five million from San Diego. Now, the one thing we'll never know is, would Eric hosmer have responded to Boston in the juice of playing, you know, in a panorama differently than what's going on in San Diego where he basically doesn't have a lot of protection of veterans in that lineup. But boy, I did no question that turned out to be one of the great deals and the at this point, the hosmer deal looks like one that San Diego's gonna regret for while the National League this week, it we're basically down to five teams for four spots. It's remarkable that you know all these teams are they're sixteen now, but still within five and a half games each other in the National League, the Atlanta Braves clinch over the course of the weekend, but we don't even know who's gonna have home field advantage throughout the playoffs in the National League. That's how close they are together. Is there any team that's caught your eye in the last week or. So as we get ready to go down the stretch. Well, I mean, not necessarily for good reason, but you know, the Rockies are team. I did a stir young Friday on DJ LeMay Hugh, you know, and how they're, there's sort of watching him his free agencies coming up and it's sort of a tough emotional time. I think for the Rockies oh, let's say tough. But I mean it, it's, they love the guy, you know, and they had Charlie Blackmon last year Nolan next year, Aaron, auto and LeMay who this year and they wanna keep the band back together for as long as they can. And man, they just had such a horrible start to their trip. You know, they go to San Francisco. They get shut out twice. They're not scoring the go to LA. They suffer just three awful losses and basically give away the division it look like in three days, and then they go to Arizona over the weekend and they're really hanging by thread. And you know to there. Credit showed resilience and and one all three, but they're still chasing this week. They got Saint Louis in the wild card, and they got LA and the division. The one thing with the Rockies is their home. You know, they're back to Coors field and I believe they have what the Phillies and the nationals, and they have a couple of AL east. I at least teams that are out of it, and they really need to just get into full run-scoring pummeled people mode. Whereas Saint Louis has a tough schedule this week with divisional teams. So you know, that's going to be really interesting to watch. I mean, the cardinals have been very oppressive just with Tyler o.'neil and Harrison baiter, and they're young kids and Mike Schill. It's really been sort of a treat to watch that team. But you know, it's just two teams in different circumstances. But with the same sense of desperation, every single day is magnified. And there's going to be really exciting final week in the NFL. Yeah. And like you mentioned the corridors, they're the team that I'm watching because of the difficult schedule. They gotta play the brewers. They're gonna play the cubs this week, unlike their division rivals who don't have difficult to schedule, but Naven playing such an exciting brand of baseball. I gotta say that was unique. Walk off. We saw with o.'neil the other day, whereas teammates, you know, we've seen this thing with a, they dump, you know, water on the player. They vice on the player, they dumped gum, maybe they'll do that sort of thing. They'll they'll slam him on that on top of the helmet. At times in the past, we've seen them like like, pull off their jersey, but O'Neill was disrobe by his teammates the other day after hit, then walk off Jerry. He, he's in the Donna, see how he. Funny, he's a kid who got traded for Marco Gonzales. You know, when when Marco was pitching so well for Saint Louis, I mean for Seattle, excuse me. Everybody said, well, the worst, some people I talked to said, hey, this kid's got huge power and wait to see because he could have an impact in Saint Louis and he has. So it's just funny with that team. What's happened. You know, since shield took over and again, I I give credit to John Mozelle lock in the people in Saint Louis for sorta getting a, you know, having their finger on the pulse of the clubhouse and and the makeup of the young players they had and just the energy and excitement that they brought to that team has been really fun to watch. And here it's funny with the NO race, you know what? A three or four weeks ago. It was, hey, we could have six teams finish in an exact tie at the end of the season, and it could be just complete chaos. And then you know the Phillies croaked and you know the event bags right away Diamondbacks collapsed. I haven't been act collapsed, and it just goes to show how things can really sort themselves out with time and there is still some interest. I mean, when you talk about that compared to the American League, it's all down to, hey, where's the wildcard game gonna be and that's mcwethy for about two weeks. At least there is some drama in the National League to watch, and that that is going to be fun and entertaining in the final week. But in the American League gets the wild card. And as you mentioned, it's the the shortstop injuries for the contenders and those guys gonna get healthy and where's Trevor by? We're going to be, we're already looking forward to the postseason in the National League. It's, you know, who's going to get to the postseason. Yeah, I asked some of the Indians about how much they're looking forward to the postseason because it feels like they wrapped up the American League central like. Back in February. So you know the the opportunity of playing the postseason. We'll give an opportunity played some games with some juice. Last one for Jerry, I thought was a really cool scene in Chicago yesterday hawk Harrelson wrapping up his long career in baseball player. And of course he's known by recent generations for his work as a broadcaster. The final outage is registered, and then players staffers from the White Sox and the cubs come out of the tip. Their captain hawk Harrelson give a listen to how this sounded at the end of the White Sox cubs game on Sunday. This call. I've enjoyed. Very much. I have enjoyed it. Loved it. Never forget it. And you could tell. I mean, from that point forward hawk just could not speak. He was so overcome by emotion, especially as he saw the players from the White Sox in the cubs tip their cap toward him. It took him a while to compose himself. He was struggling to get words at Gerry, look, he, he's a divisive figure. So many fans don't like him because they consider to be the ultimate Homer in the way that he roots for. The White Sox in there is during the course of broadcast, I really like hawk, I love his broadcast actually because I love the passion and that for me is what really shown through on that. And his last day is a broadcaster. His passion for baseball. Cluster, you know, I grew up in New England and remember him playing with the Red Sox, you know? And he was he was a character back then and he's been a character as broadcast. I've had a chance to talk to them a couple of times, very smart guy, knowledgeable guy about baseball worked in a front office. I mean, he he is. He is one of the chew characters of the game. And you know, I saw an interview where I think people didn't vote for him as the number one Homer broadcaster. And he said, hey, I look at that as a compliment. So it wasn't unintentional. He, that's the way he approached it. And I, I'm one of these guys, I think who came around on hawk a little bit, you know, for a while, I would just watch from say how people put up with us. I mean, it's just it's way too much. And then I think as it gets time, gets closer for him to leave. You say, hey, there's room for all countries in baseball and. I just sort of enjoyed him. Yeah, you got some chuckles out of how Homer he was, but he is a guy who loves loves. Baseball is very passionate about it that showed through every broadcast and you know, so one of the guys who really leaves a Mark upon him leaving, you know, BUSTER. I do want to inject this before we go all. So I think it was Friday or over the weekend on Welke from the Padres longtime scout passed away. And I do wanna mention him because just the guy who coach Welke was beloved show. You came across his path by everybody in baseball. And I just wanted to mention that I just condolences to the Padres and his family and just a wonderful man. And another character of the game said, people are really gonna miss around baseball, had an impact on a lot of people and and a great scout and a great guy and. And just to see his passing? Yeah. On Friday, we talked about his passing. We mentioned, you know, this is that he was Pat Gillick right hand, man. All general manager Don Welke was his go-to guy and a lot of cases for, hey, go check out. John Olry. Go check out this player. Go check out this deal because Don walk with some of that. He really trusted and and as you say, a lot of people really cared about him and I heard from got a lot of Texas people who really liked on and wanted us to to talk about it. Jerry, thanks for doing this and great to talk with you. Thanks. 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You know the years past the strength of the bullpen was just lights out this year. You had some injuries with Andrew Miller in two thousand seventeen is well, you guys had that long winning streak, and it seems like in some ways you guys have had to fight a little bit more and yesterday, Terry Francona saying it feels like the first time that they've really got the whole team together and healthy at this point. How do you see it? I suitable right now, you know, it's we have. We have how a lot of ups and downs, but that's good for us. You know, that's good because the other day we we'll know suspect. We all know that nothing's gonna be given to us. We didn't. We don't have to go out there and they're. And it's it's good, you know? 'cause the guys. They know they know what it's like to be to be down and they know what it's like to be up at the same time. So it's gonna be interesting. I'm going to be. I'm going to be ups and downs in the postseason a lot of everybody in the same line, one of the most impressive duos in the game as you and Jose Ramirez, I guess on the other side of the field Mookie Betts, JD Martinez, but you've added Josh Donaldson to this team and moving Ramirez to second base. First of all, adding Josh Donaldson. This is a guy that you play against a couple years ago in the championship series, but you add a player like that to your team. What does it do to your infield? What does it do to your offense is playing great difference and what a leg all the most is not how how good hit how good he's on the field. He's a competitor. He's gonna go out there and compete. He's a gamer and and that's what we have. We have gamers poses a gamer Dawson's gamer brand. Lisa game where you know is guys step been. It's. Time competes, we got win, whatever it takes. All right. So you have each year increased your home run total thirty six right now you're not finished yet. Forty might be a little bit of a stretch, but you you, you're not a big guy and with all the different philosophies to hitting in the way that people go about a, did you ever see yourself hitting? Almost forty home runs in a big league season. And what is it that you do to increase your power? Each year? I knew I was going to be able to drive the ball. I work as hard as I can on the during offseason as well to to be strong, was I gonna hit forty home runs, who knows. I would. I was gonna hit thirty. I would have liked to hit Iraq like to think like I was gonna hit, but that wasn't my game. I gain which to data. And then I got older is like. The fence is not that far. You know, like it's right there. I'm gonna drive the base way focus focus on driving baseball. Not off hoagies is. Put the volume play them run. I was like, I'm Dr face walk then run and that's, and that's what helped me to understand. Like, yes, I hit the power again. I can be successful driving the baseball now hitting home runs. It can kind of be like a drug and all of a sudden you see jumping off your bat in a hitter changes swing a little bit. How often it's sheer. Did you kind of have to bring yourself back to the home base and say, hey, just looking at drive in the ball, he gets out of the ballpark grade, but I'm going to try to, you know, be on base, hit fry average, get the ball in the gap and go. How often had you cut? It remind yourself every day every single day. I, I'm not our, that's the way I see. I'm not our hit. I'm someone that have to put the ball and play, but when I. Mentality now is not just putting the ball, I'm driving to Boston and then run, you know. So it's I can just forget that I, I'm not going to be hitting forty, five fifty every year. I I won't do it. It's that's not me if I'd do it great. But. Driving hitting thirty home runs. That's pretty fun for me. I'll say diarrhea. His chief executive of our weekly quiz graphic artists working be seen on fields all across America, all around the world. I am still one behind Josh in our weekly quiz, getting concerned is become down the stretch. But before we get to that Todd every week, you've been doing a uniform presentation for each of the thirty teams this week. You doing the Braves. I could promise you that my son, Jake huge Braves fan will be listening carefully to what you say. So you know, make sure make sure you say something's going to make him happy. Okay. I think that this will make him happy BUSTER. We shall see. But as you noted this week, we are taking a look at the Atlanta Braves and the uniform that Hank Aaron war when he made history on April the eighth nineteen seventy four. The look designed by Braves, graphic director, Wayland more represented, a fresh interpretation of what a baseball uniform could look like. Employing large blocks of color and stylized feathers on each sleeve. The club shifted from a navy blue to a more electric Royal blue, not to the growing influence of color on broadcast television, the Royal blue and white paneled caps featured a lower case a and the traditional brave script lettering was unencumbered by those pesky buttons reviews of the uniform were generally positive. Despite their break from convention when the uniforms were unveiled in nineteen seventy-two Braves manager. Loom Harris said, mom's the word these days. As far as baseball players are concerned. If people think that these uniforms or something, they wanna see how players dress after the game. I wear colored shirts now that I wouldn't have been caught dead. In five years ago. The uniforms are elevated, of course, by their connection to the great Hank Aaron's historic record breaking seven hundred fifteen th home run and the Braves bring them back is throwback with regularity, four decades after they were less worn on a regular basis. Gentlemen, I give you Hank Aaron's Worrell blue and white record-breaking bleeds uniform as we celebrate the twenty seven of thirty teens and thirty uniforms. That's remarkable. So the manager at the time referred to those mod, they were used as in a throwback weekend this year by the Atlanta Braves, and they look quaint right. How time Ben's all perception. I, I was actually in Atlanta at SunTrust park that weekend. It was in June and the I have spoken with the man before, but I actually got to meet Wayland Moore who is in his late eighties. He's an inspiration. He's still teaches art, and he got to be on the broadcast which was a great thing for him. And that look is so beloved. They play the Orioles. And boy that looked, it looked fresh. It's quaint people love it. It looks different. That's awesome. Well, I'm glad you got to see that in person. I got to. I'm glad you got to meet him. Todd. Let's get to this week's quiz is I mentioned one behind Josh in we're running out of time what he got. All right up before I thought the question I have to just with qualify. Remember there are no quick trick questions here. Boys known. This, yeah, this it's very straightforward thing. When Mike trout steps into the batter's box, how many times does the angels haloed eight logo appear on him, closest wins. Wow. Wow. Man. That's a really interesting question. And there are no trick things. I can't even the under the under cert- or hidden on his shoes or anything like that. Your form in headwear. Got it. Thank you. Thank you for clarifying. Do we know he has. Wow. Oh, man. I'm going to go with to the gonna walk through my thought process. You don't have to because the answers three. They were wrong gentlemen because actually four. But closest wins, though. Right? That is correct. Right at one sleep patch, right? Another sleep pets, the a in a circle and the a in angels on his jersey, two, three, four courses to the t- wins. Wow, since I didn't get it right BUSTER, I'll just say that I just pick up a half now. I'm up by one and a half. I was that just say that it was, you know, the picked up a full one. I mean, he he laid out the ground. He, he, he said ahead of time, closest win. So you absolutely win. I would say this, here's why I was wondering if it was a trick question because you said when he came to the plate, I was trying to count the number of times he did like practice wings. In other words, from the centerfield camera, how many times would you see. And I had in my mind's eye was trying to imagine his his regimen as he got ready. So. Got throwing onto any. I know I got thrown off a little bit. I threw myself. I should say, absolutely just got a right, I got it wrong, and I am now to behind and I'm in big trouble. So. On ice in the studio BUSTER, whatever, whatever, go get the Bill, the mortal outfit while you're adding. Over the weekend boop Shami of ESPN. Radio spoke with Terry Francona the Indians manager give a lesson Tito. We start with the important stuff. How excited are you seeming. Pretty tight. It always excited to see a friendly face plus how you supposed to answer that. No, you have no chance answer that. Just make you comfortable right from the beginning. No. Look, serious guys have clinched a division again. So you're talking about three straight years at amazing. Run that this Indians group has put together. Told me a little bit about this team. You've added Donaldson. It's obviously a group that can score the pitching's a little bit different. How do you feel about your team right now was hard is we haven't had our team all year. We went through our bullpen struggles. We had some injuries, and we're at the point. We have ten games left in the year, and we're kind of approaching hopefully being the first time all your that we have our team. And by that I mean Donaldson third Ramirez, a second kipness center and having Miller back throwing soul, you know, it's, it's a little unsettling. But last year we were unsettled in the play. Offs, I'd rather do it now and then give yourself a chance in the playoffs. I wanna get to the playoffs in a second, but first, let's talk about the middle guys and with Lynn door at short in Ramirez. At second, he's played third mainly, but he has that versatility. Can you just tell the folks out there how good these two are and how they've improved? It seems year after year, I think as they learn the league, they learn what people are trying to do them. As long as they stay healthy. You see them getting better. You know, the grown into more power. I seems like after remind people about Ramirez because everybody knows about Lindor, but Hosie is putting up monster numbers even with the last month where he's kinda cooled off. He's on pace for, you know, my goodness sakes and man. He just his motor never stops and and defensively, you know, now that he's at second and he's got some repetitions there. He's really good there. What have you seen from Josh Donaldson? At least so far? One it was obviously worked really hard because. When he got here, some of the things that we were, you know, we'd heard his arm. He stolen the heck out of the ball. He's bouncing back the next day with his legs. His at bats are tremendous me swings about so violently, but he doesn't go out of the own much. You know, he's just a baseball player. He's a really good baseball player last couple of years. Your MO, even your identity was, hey, man, let's get it to our bullpen because we have lights out guys down there as a manager. You have to make the adjustment. Your bullpen is not as good this year, but is it difficult at least in the early stages of the season when you're used to managing a certain way? Because you know what your strengths are and you have to change off of that. But you know what I think the first half of the year are starters led the league in any speech. So you try to get to your team strengths and use them go to them and try to stay away from maybe some of the shortcomings or at least you know, don't don't expose them. I think that's what any man. Tries to do is like you don't wanna get stuck in one way. You wanna take your team and use their strengths. Yen did a curse in Boston. You want to World Series there Pittsburgh kid. Now in this super working class town that appreciates this team, you've had really good success. When you wake up in the morning, like what puts us and your face about this job? When motivates you? One I woke up. Are you kidding me of thrilled mafia grown. I'm happy. That's one more day, but I, I love coming to work here. I mean this you spend time with me the people who are so special people I worked for I, I'm not real smart, but I was smart enough to pick a good place. I think you're smart. You're underrated say it's great. Thanks. Bleacher tweets. All right, Josh. Got me off the golf course to do Bleacher tweets. I think he didn't want to do them. That's why. Yeah. Go figure right. I. One comes from the sandlot at little Mike Carson with the l. i. l.. BUSTER, how much does a single MVP award impact the players hall of fame chances for players like Mauer, Jimmy Rollins, whose careers often debated. It seems like they're in VP award, rarely gets mentioned in the discussion. What do you think it's just one more part of the resume. Look when we talked about Joe Mauer's potential hall of fame, Tim cartoon a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned that he'd want an MVP award, and then you look at somebody like Dale Murphy who was not voted in the hall of fame and he went back to back MVP award, so it doesn't necessarily put them over the top. I think it's part of the package and if Joe Mauer ever gets it, I don't think Jimmy Rollins at this point is is going to be close to being a hall of Famer, but with Joe Mauer it feels like he's going to be a borderline case. And yet it'll be mentioned next from Eric Van Meter. He's at Eric Van Meter with two solid. Six plus innings starts after coming off the deal to lift the cards is Adam Wainwright the last of the Paul Bunyan's in the National League. No, there's a guy out in San Francisco who may have defined the eve all bunion starter named Madison Bumgarner and look. I think, Walker bueller as a chance to become that guy time goes on, and it's interesting conversation with a general manager of the weekends. Look it, no doubt that baseball is turning to relievers more and more. He said, but look at the American League teams. All those teams reliance starting pitchers still in a big way, whether you're talking about Cleveland with Corey kluber and Trevor Bauer, whether you're talking about the Astros with ver- Lander. And with Garrett Cole, when he talking about the Red Sox with Chris sale, David price. So I think the responsibility put the hands of a lot of starting pitchers is diminished, but there are still some Paul Bunyan's out there. It's great to see Adam Wainwright have this great finish to this season to -solutely next from another Bleacher tweet legend, PK Steinberg. He's PK Steinberg, p-a-k. What was the point of firing, Jeff Bannister with ten days left in the season. I wonder and I have not Doug hard into this question PK, but I wonder if it's a professional courtesy and I think teams should do this. They if they know what they're going to do with the manager, they should go to them and say, this is what our intention is. What would you like to do? Right. The Rangers finish their home stand. They had a nice moment for Adrian bell. Trae John Daniels, you know, his worked well with Jeff Bannister in recent years. I know he's had a lot of respect for him. Maybe he went to him and said, hey, here's the deal. We're going to change managers. How do you want to handle the year? And maybe Jeff said, you know what? I'd like to take it to the house. I really feel like the Orioles have needed to extend the same courtesy to Buck Showalter by the way, if in fact they're not gonna bring back as manager. I hope they've already told them what their plans are. He's earned that next one comes from Eric Engelbert. He's at ISA teric Eric zero. If there was a utility player of the year ward, who would it be named after Tony Phillips shown Figgins Benz overs and who would be this year's winner? Well, for current generations you had to call the over Streit. It's gotta be the silver because when you talk to teams in bandages about players being versatile, like Marlin Gonzalves of the Astros, the guy they always references Benz overspends over seem to create this mold that a lot of teams of follow in recent years. Last one night regret to answer. This. One comes from Keith Glazer at key. CG isn't an easy definition of MVP if all jeans were holding a draft of all players, knowing exac results of the twenty eighteen season, which player would they select? I, this guy says he loves Christian yelich, but it would have to be Graham right. And that's an interesting way to look at it. But as soon as I saw this question, Anthony, I thought, boy, he's not gonna be happy that Christian yelich x. Marlin because you're the last Marlins fan in the face. In Christian yelich. That's one of those trades I think has a chance to go down in history specially after yelich wins the MVP award this year. I mean, but that's a string of a long line of trees that will go down in history when they treat away Magog Cabrera who ended up winning the triple crown. His jenner's. Okay. Anyways, that's we're not going to get to that. But just looking at his stats from this year three twenty two batting average thirty two home runs eighty six rupees last year. Two eighty to eighteen eighty one. He's a young player is getting better and he signed to an incredible long term contract. I still incriminate the Marlins should have thought more about keeping that group together. He saw the numbers that came out about their attendants, and now it's the worst since the two thousand four, Montreal Expos, we know what happened with them. But anyway, we got, we got sidetracked with that because I knew of your bitterness. The traded Christian yelich l. difficult. It is for you to see what he's doing with the brewers to answer. Keith's question. I think that if you looked at it your way you right, if every general manager knew what was going to have. During the year and they knew the kind of year degrom would have. Yes, I don't think there's any question you'd be the first player chosen, but that's now how I'm gonna pick my MVP. I think it's should be Christian yelich. Thank you guys for sending me these tweet, especially Yuki the pre sheet that one keep them coming scab on Rippin your scab off real. We're not gonna get two more. I can go for this for another hour anyways. Senator tweets, he's in the hashtag which with tweets. That's it for today. Thanks to Francisco, indoor Terry. Francona Chris singleton boop, shabby. Jerry Crasnick, Todd Radim and than Anthony Colletti worked through his bitterness to produce his cast in place of Josh macrey who's bitter about everything at this point except the uniform logo contest that we're doing. Have a great day everybody and thanks for listening. Listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN dot com, slash pod separate baseball tonight. The podcast.

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Duane Kuiper on His Favorite Stories, Postgame Wraps and More

Giants Splash

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Duane Kuiper on His Favorite Stories, Postgame Wraps and More

"Hello. And welcome to the first giants splash podcast. It's the same as the giants double-play podcast. But with a new catchier name on Henry Schulman. The giants beat reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle today, I talked to Duane Kuyper half of one of baseball's longest running and most popular television broadcast teams. I plan to do podcasts with all four giants broadcasters, but I'm starting with Dwayne because he and I are so alike, maybe two alike as you'll find out right off the bat when the podcast begins right after this. I am Susan's lesser Oakland. A's beat writer for the chronicle. And I'd love it. If you've listened to my podcast as plus attack. The players coaches executives and others around the team every week. You'll get on field analysis and off the field insight. Do you know, which as player lost twenty pounds on a diet of donuts? You would if you've been listening to as plus join me every week wherever you get your podcast as plus. Showman here with Dwayne Kuyper. And as I mentioned in the introduction. I hope to get all four of you broadcasters in for podcast. But I I think you first because I feel we're like you, and I are kindred spirits. I mean, we have the same background me a Jewish kid from the streets of Fairfax district dental LA new a farm boy from Wisconsin. I mean, we we're almost like brothers, aren't we? And we kind of p at the same time during the games. Yeah. We're on the same schedule. So I'm glad we're starting right off with that is inevitably during the course of a game. You know, you gotta get up and leave the booth and whether you're at the stall or I met the stall where they're at the same time. And sometimes we've been fortunate enough for to happen twice a game. It's a bit odd. But I feel maybe that's one of the strong reasons. Why I I exactly now I wasn't gonna lead with this topic. But in Pittsburgh, it's a very long way from the broadcast booth to the men's room. And now the commercials are going to be thirty seconds shorter. So have you done any strategic planning for this? You know, Pittsburgh is a pain, and there isn't a whole lot. You can do. It's it's it's okay. If you're on TV, if you're doing TV, and you have a partner and in on TV rose going to have a partner, whether it's now S to sir Lopez, but when John is gone. Or win. Dave is gone. That means one of us is working on radio alone. And and that that's the problem because you're not gonna make it back in time. And when you do make it back in time, you're huffing and puffing. And it just doesn't really do a decent job. When you're doing play by play one experience at chase field. Probably fifteen twenty years ago. I was working radio alone written to the bathroom. I'm a way out. I pulled on the handle in the handle came out. In the door wouldn't open. So I took the handle which was metal. And I be down the doors hard as I could. Because you're press box is very close. Somebody's gonna hear it. Eventually somebody opened the door. I missed four pitches. What I got back. But what's really great is every time we go back there. Now, there's still dents in the door. Honestly, dwayne. It's one of the first things I do every series in in chase field is when I go to the same bathroom. I'm looking for that bent to see if they ever fixed it if they ever pounded it out, and they never have. And it's a tribute to you. I think. I think whenever get a new ballpark. I want the door to door, and I'm going to put it in the house. But that's the only time wherever leave missed a lot of pitches. But in Pittsburgh, it's a great possibility. Now moving away from the urinary tract. So what I mentioned that you grew up on a farm in Wisconsin. Another thing we have in common, your dad's name is Henry my name is Henry, I think last time I checked and Henry Kuyper had a believe it was about three hundred acre farm, and he grew. Well, we were raised on a dairy farm, and you're close I think it was more like one hundred and fifty two hundred acres more than enough to to enjoy raising forty or fifty dairy cattle. We had an issue where our farmers located on a pretty busy highway, and it was kind of right in the middle of curve in the state of Wisconsin decided they wanted to take that curve out. And that meant you had to go right through our farm to straighten the curve, and they forced us all the move the buildings. And so that went from dairy farm. There was too hard to move everything to keep it a dairy farm, and it went into a far more. My dad just raised. Beef cattle. And then he got rid of those totally and just started raising corn and soybeans and barley. But he was a great farmer and just recently sold the farm to a hospital. So they're going to build the hospital at my desk for 'cause I recall, it, it was part of that farm that a developer wanted to might have been if I remember the story like a fast food restaurant or something or other and something changed your dad's mind about whether he would sell well, originally, he said, you know, they're not gonna make hamburgers on my farm. And then the guy said, well, what if we gave you this amount of money, and he said, well, you can make hamburgers far. And now, the the Kuyper boys. We we all know now, they're the three Kuyper boys who are all in this business yourself. You know, you your brother, Glenn is an as broadcaster your brother, Jeff is a producer and director, and you all did work on the farm at at times. Some of you are better at plowing than others, and you're dead at to make a tough decision about where you could plow. Right. He did not allow any of us to plough or do anything by the road by the side of the road. He felt like every person that job by the farm was going to judge him as a farmer by how straight the rows of corn were or the rows of soybeans were there are no rose for week because we just grows all over the place, but he did not allow us to, cultivate, or plant or do anything by the side of the road because everything had to be straight. And he was right. We were not good farmers. I asked them many times of the three boys who did he think could be the best farmer and without hesitation, he said. It would be Jeff who is the producer. He thought Glennon I spent too much time wanting to get off the tractor and watch TV, and he was right. So Winky Dink in you, or the whatever whatever show is on at the time. You know, what it ended up that? Now, all of us are involved in TV one way or the other. I was gonna ask about that. I mean, when you were growing up were you the kind of guys who were talkative who felt comfortable yakking it up with friends telling stories and all that quite the contrary. I remember. You know, speech class in high school terrified, absolutely terrified. And it really wasn't until I got to Cleveland that I started feel a lot more comfortable in front of in audience. Whether it be a microphone or speak to people at a banquet it took a while. But you know, that it really becomes second nature. I mean, I've watched my son go through the same thing where he's not very comfortable, and we should mention that your son Cole is now part of this program on NBC sports bay area at some there's three people who were going to be talking doing stuff giants related social media related. Yeah. Is going to be part of that group. It's Therese Vignolle and carbon Q in the three of them will take over the role of the folks that did what was called the outsiders last year in it is it's a lot a social media driven. And there in that age group. Where that's part of their life. Now, social media. I mean, you're part of it because you're very active on Twitter. I'm really not a part of it. But I do follow things on Twitter. It's you know, it's really part of our job and I enjoy following people. But that's the age group, you know, that towards the end of their twenties early thirties where now it's all about social media. And an enjoy watching him. You know, we'll see how he does. Now, your first foray full-time really kind of into media. We're not really fulltime. But but extensive time you did as I recall the giants it was like the Dwayne Kuyper show when they grab one player, and he does a show whether it's daily or weekly or whatnot we comfortable with that right away. You know, what I didn't mind. I didn't mind it at all. I'll tell you what I really didn't like and it took over the show f- when Joe Morgan got traded. They asked me if I would do his show, and it was a part of the pre-game show in Cambior, and it was going over in interviewing another player, whether it'd be when he your own teammates or going over to the. Visitor side. And in asking for interviews. And I was uncomfortable asking for interviews. But I did that the first year, and then the second year they made it part of the post game show where we didn't interview anybody. We just talked about the game after the after the ballgame. The original rap. This kind of the original rap, and I was with David glass at that time. And then by Brindley took over for me. And and then I don't think after Bob there was a player that was a part of any of the pre or post game show. But it did it always helps when you get involved in doing those things because when they started giants vision Corey Bush who was one of the giants executive that that time, you know, the new I'd done those shows, and I was part of two or three guys that were trying for that one spot and giant station was the the faraway ancestor of what is now NBC sports bay area. So your your broadcast partner. I mean, people everybody knows it. It's been more than two decades. Maybe cladding twenty five twenty six years or something like that. But you actually were teammates with Mike Ruko and actually before you were teammates with Mike Ruko you faced him for four it backs five plate appear. Ince's in. I believe it was nineteen eighty was the year before he got traded over. It might have been eighty two when you were playing for the giants, and he was playing with the Phillies. He went one for four or you went one for four with a walk. What was it like actually facing him? You know at face them a lot during spring training with unions us with the cubs. And I don't have any idea what I did against them. He claims that I wore them out with Bunsen infield hits which I don't remember that at all. I do remember the base it. I got off of them. It was a three run fast ball that I lined into right field in Philadelphia. Also know that he struck me out. And he also walked as you said, and I don't remember what the outs where I'm assuming and I would tell him. This few standing here that they were probably line drives to this fielder. But I don't remember in you know, and I and I don't remember much about Mike other than facing him. And then when he got traded to the giants in in eighty three. We became fast friends within a week after he joined the team because we had similar personalities. We were both about the same age. He laughed at the same things. I laughed and I guess it was only a natural progression that eventually we would be in the booth together. Well that joke at the beginning of the podcast about, you know, are yours in mind different background. But he's you know, he's Pasadena kid, he he's a California guy. He looked he looks like he belongs on a surfboard. And you're from a completely different part of the country. What brings you together? Besides sense of humor is at that shared that that shared job that you have the way baseball. His played the way you interact in the locker room and all that. Well, we I you're right. We always interacted in the locker room. You know, if there was something going on that needed to be said, it one of us was going to do it and probably both of us. But you're right. We couldn't be in a lot of ways. We are totally opposites. You know, he likes music he plays all the instruments. I couldn't carry a tune or play an instrument to save by life. You know, he's a west coast kid. I can I was a midwest guy. But he was really he's adapted. I mean when he got traded to the cubs. He loved the mid west, you know, he he actually talks like he's from the midwest. But yet d also has great memories of growing up in California. So it's been a great marriage and my wife occasionally gets jealous, but not so much anymore. I know there's I mean you've been together for so long. You probably have a million stories, but desire one Mike Ruko story or that just stands out that you know, that you would tell somebody at a party if they said, hey, what's it like? Being with my crew. Well, you know, what there's a there is absolutely a gazillion of them. And in a you know, I've been with Mike Winnie when we have to speak at these functions. And and I'm standing up there. In east starts telling a story about the both of us together. And. I'm thinking he's making this up. This. He's totally making this up, and and I'll look at them and he's got the audience. They're just captivated. They're like, oh my God. This is awesome. And I looked at him afterward. Doug. Oh, Mike you made that up to goes. Well, it was a good story. Wasn't it? I go. Yeah. I actually started to believe it. We've we've had a number of people that have asked us to to write a book, and and he wants to do it. And I don't and try to explain why said Mike we've told these stories for thirty years. I don't know these some of these stories are true. But because we've told them for so long. We actually believe that they're true said the only way I would ever do it as if the title when something like this. We're not one hundred percents share these stories which. So I don't know if we'll ever do it or not. But we might I one of the big fears among the fans, and you know, let's face it. You know, you and Mike are are getting up there in years. Everybody is I am too in the big fear is that one of these days in specially with Mike having the health issues that you're just going to break this thing apart. And I mean, could you imagine what that day would be like, and how hard it might be especially if one of you wants to keep going in the other dozen it's going to be a very cheerful. I can tell you that. But I don't you know, what I don't see him slowing down at all. I mean, you know, every once in a while, I'll think well, you know, maybe he's lost a half a step. But I do know this if he can get to the park, and if you can get in his chair, then he's going to do at least he's gonna do home games. And and that's at least eighty or eighty one and maybe more if you get to postseason. So if it happens, I don't see it happening within the next five or ten years. So. Oh, that's a good thing. That is a good thing. That's a long time. Now, both of you were were very good ball players. I think that you know, I mean, Mike won twenty games in one thousand nine hundred eighty six he had a had a good career. You had a good career to. And I think that there's almost as self deprecating thing about the one home run that might might mask. How how good you were at what you did. And I'm not going to ask you about the one home run because everybody talks about that. You did something in the second game of a doubleheader against the Yankees on July twenty seventh nineteen seventy eight I believe it was that very few people in major league baseball have ever done. You hit two triples in the same game both with the bases loaded. Two swings. Six RBI's. What do you remember about that day? I remember a month bloat of RBI's in one day. I also remember I almost didn't play the the second game of the doubleheader. We we Rick waits and who was a team-mate. We get up at five fifty. Fifteen that morning because he he was a singer. And and the today show had invited him to sing I think it was the impossible dream, and he was going to sing it live in. And I wanted to take a long because I I had a crush on Jane Pauley. I thought she was really cute. So this is my chance to meet Jane Pauley, so off we went we got in a cab. And and we're there at court to six and he sings a song, and I'd meet Jane Polly and Tom Brokaw. It was great. It was great to see the whole operation was the today show. So that, but that's a long day. If you're going to play a doubleheader said played the first game. I don't remember what I did. And I remember they asked you felt like the play the second game. And I said, yeah, you know, I I feel fine. Well, you know, that's one of those days where you're gonna sometimes have the best day in your career. When you just not feeling one hundred percent and two triples and one game. With the bases loaded and one of the guys I watched is a kid had done, Billy Bruton. He was a a center fielder with the Milwaukee Braves. And I don't know who the third one is. But I do know there's only three of us that have done it in. Now, I've done games were. There has been a guy that's hit one. And he's up again with the bases loaded, and I'm cheered against them. And I'm thinking, I don't even know if that's the right thing to do. But well, I mean whenever a player is approaching a record the guy who holds the record always safe, you know, records are made to be broken. And he's a great player. And I couldn't think of anybody else in the world. I'd rather have to break that record. And and I think what you're telling me is that's a bunch of who he is a bunch of crap. And you know and afterward I feel bad for the guy flies out or strikes out. But but hey, what's the difference between three guys doing it or four guys doing it? It's just that. I was the last one to do it. Are you still the last one doing? Yes, right now, you you know, you start your broadcast career soon after your retirement, and you have been with the giants ever since except for one detour to Colorado nineteen Ninety-three wasn't the happiest year of your career. Was it? Now hated it. And I hated it because we were told by the giants were gonna sell the team only one of the broadcast is is going to go to Florida and that was Hank Greenwald because he had a couple of years left on his contract. You other guys go find a job? So I did I found a job of the Rockies. And what happened the team stays? They stay it. What do they do that one hundred and three games? I mean, I'm sitting in Colorado my family's back in in danville. I'm absolutely miserable. I'm at a breakdown and in thank goodness at the end of the ninety three season. When the giants came into Colorado to play out staying at the hotel the Westin. That's where the team was staying and Harmon burns. Larry newbie. There was a couple of other. I think pet gala got involved, and they said, you know, what you like to come back. And I said what I like to come back. Are you kidding me? Is it? So we'll we'll we'll talk to Larry Baer about it. And I got together with Larry after the season they had to get me out of my Colorado contract to do it. But the rocky said you go if you want to and I came back it was it was a life saving. I'd be dead by now if I had two games in Colorado, why just because of the length and all that altitude length the way games are played in that ballpark. And I really enjoyed Denver. It was great. But they once a giant, always agenda. Now, you you had a unique way of commemorating your time in Colorado every year when we went back, they have a lunchroom there that they've remodeled it, but it you stay stamp photos of all the, you know, big Rockies players, and coaches and managers and every time we went in. And it was one picture that was upside down was hung upside down and Rockies could never figure it out. We figured it out. Who was that again? Well, it was Clinton Erdal Clinton will. Ended up taking but he bills job. And but he was my roommate in Cleveland, and it really had nothing against Clinton hurdle, except he was the guy that take buddies job. And when I went in there in honor of buddy, I'd flip is picture upside down hurdles. Yeah. And I know they were hacked off because the next day. It was always put back the way was supposed to be. And I think Bill is the guy's name. He's still there that that runs the pressroom and t always used to look at me the corner of his eye. Like, are you the guy? And I think I I blame one of the sports writers. I don't remember who it was. But it will take the hit for you. I know you will -absolutely let's fast forward to now. I mean, we've had the giants have played two straight losing seasons ninety eight law season. And you know, this could be a challenging year to because of the way the roster is set up in some of the things that far Hans eighty is is trying to do now. You've you've broadcast a great year's World Series years you broadcasts in ninety eight law season or seasons like this harder for you. I get this question all the time as a beat writer this season like this harder for you and Mike. Well, I think is a whole when the season's over with you you look at it. And you say, well, you know, they were times that it was a grind. But, you know, inevitably as an example, you know, the giants won ballgame their first game in San Diego on Saturday night. And you know, you're into it. You're I mean, you're. Is it like a postseason game? Now, it's not. But you know, this team really needs a win bad. And you're in you know, the from the fifty nine the Padres had the tying run in scoring position. And and you don't think about anything other than what's going on at that particular time. Yeah. I mean at the end of the season in two thousand eighteen when they were like five and twenty years some ridiculous number. Yeah. It does get to be a grind. But I do think you have to take for game individually. Then look at it like this is the big leagues there's going to be a box score tomorrow. And it's in Greenville used to say just because it's a bad game. It doesn't mean it has to be a bad broadcasts. And that's all you have to look at and after every game good game bad game game in the middle. You do the rap with your colleagues, John Miller, and Dave Flemming and Mike Ruko. And it's very unique. You're doing it in a tiny booth where it's hard enough just to get four of you. It's simul. I I realized that, but it's hard to get four people in the picture together. And you always seem to have this air of I wouldn't say disinterest, but you'll get a little bored. Sometimes and you picked up a beer now. And again and had a sip. Do they tell you to not to do that anymore? Mike is the one who picked up to beer and yes by cut at. I'm the potato chip guy. That's right. And and you know, the whole deal was is when they decided to show it on TV, they told us please act like the cameras, aren't there, do whatever you did before the cameras are in the booth just do that. And I said I'd find you know, the that's what I'm gonna do. And and I've never changed. Meantime, you know, John looks into the camera. You know, you know, there's a light now for people to look good. And all that. And that's fine. Those guys can do what they want. I'm not going to change if I'm hungry. I'm gonna eat a sandwich. It I'm going to drink a coke. I'm going to have a bag of chips. I'm gonna eat some peanuts because that's the ground rules that they said and if it looks like une disinterested. That's fine. I can look disinterested. I just can't sound disinterested. And you don't and that's important. Yeah. It is that is that rap. One of your highlights of the day. It's not I wish it would go away. But it's become so popular that it's not going to go away. So so we deal with we have fun with it. And I really give the giants credit for understanding that when there's a really crappy game we call it a crappy game and we talk about guys at make mistakes. And we're a little bitty Reverend on the rap. But, but I think that's probably makes it work in, you know, in just just Finally I mean, they do ratings they do polls and all that and you and Mike and John and Dave consistently rate as. The one of the best groups TV group radio group in the major leagues, you're always one one or two or something like that. I mean, do you take any bright in that you take any kind of? I mean, does it matter to you. It does matter, and we appreciate the people that think that that were at that level. But I don't think you can try to be at that level. I think you have to try to be yourself. And and then you know, fans have to accept how you are. I don't think there's any doubt I say this all the time that our style here may not be the style that people want in the mid west or maybe they wouldn't like that style on the east coast. But it's the style that are fans like, and and that's just who we are hawk Harrelson came here. It wouldn't be it wouldn't last very long. I don't think that would work, and I think it showed when Harry Carey came for three months when he did the as there's a certain style that that northern California likes and in. And I think we capture the will listen we could go on doing this. But I can tell we both need to go to the bathroom. So we'll cut it off here Dwayne Kuyper. I wanna thank you. And I'm gonna like I said on the interim and talked to all of the the broadcasters. I think that the fans really love what you have to say. And I wish you the best season as we go on. Well, thank you Henry. I say this sincerely that that really appreciate what you do in all of our beat writers. But I especially appreciate the chronicle because it's really one of the last great newspapers in one of the last great sports sections that we have in our country. We just don't have enough of them while I appreciate that lot coming for you. It means a lot. You have a great day. Bye. Thanks. Thank you. For listening in watch for the next giants. Splash podcast. Giants splash is part of the San Francisco Chronicle podcast network. Audrey Cooper is editor in chief. If you like this show, we'd love it. If you would subscribe to it wherever you get your podcast, and if you have a minute or two to give us a quick review that helps us build our audience. So we can keep growing follow me on Twitter at Hank Schulman or you can Email me at h showman at SF chronicle dot com. Support giants splash. And a lot of great journalism with a subscription to the San Francisco Chronicle there are print and digital editions available. Find out more at SF, chronicle dot com slash subscribe.

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Greater On Demand

PTI

23:47 min | 2 years ago

Greater On Demand

"You wouldn't settle for a two star spin class a personal trainer so why settle for bank that treats you just like another number ally knows you deserve better and their mission is to be just that and with ally bank you'll get interest rates up to twenty many times the national average you can chat with real people twenty four seven end they won't nutmeg you with hidden fees allies team actually cares about doing right by you and your money so go to s l l y dot com for more ally bank member fdic icy pardon the interruption but i'm mike robots tony winner at a sex festival had a minor heart attack tony kornheiser i needed a breather okay if that were true don't succeed going where young or heart attack or if they're not they're not really they're not they're older people already know that if you just take a survey of him and you know anything about the lions they are swinging when did that start telling me seventies maybe so how would they be down three hundred and ten i'm gonna say are boys and girls in today's episode why picks the clippers paul george joins him and the thunder may russell westbrook but we hit it today with a women's world cup triumph by the united states team they talk the talk and they walk the walk they beat the netherlands yesterday to nothing to complete their defense of the world cup title if they won in two thousand fifteen team and as they were accepting the trophy in france there were shots from the crowd of quote equal pay unquote referring to the usa women's lawsuit to acquire that will bond do you think that's a team will get equal pay depends on from whom were talking about depends on the source of that money if it is the federation sure they oughta have equal pay from the federation but let's let's be real about this and there'll be a lot today of overstatement about immediate legacy this team is great it should be celebrated for being great right let's not the rest of the world go nuts and talking about the impact is gonna have and what they're gonna get paid the the the the tony the amount of money that comes in because of largely broadcast rights yes hideous fractional in the case of women's soccer even his greatest this team is to men's soccer even at the team has nowhere near the success what talking about a difference all listen to me hundreds hundreds of millions of dollars people so there's not gonna be equal pay at that level as employees from the federation yes equal pay so hard let's so were both in agreement that any money the united states gives to it's men's steam minutes women's team should be yes for training for travel free lodging for anything like that they got the rating of the women's world cup in america which is what i care about children's with a ten yeah okay that means it's higher than many world series games higher than many nb eight finals games not the last game but the first or headaches so as far as i'm concerned they shouldn't get equal pay they should get more pay they outperformed the men they drew the men now i can't stand this to the professional soccer league 'cause nobody goes you have an extended tony to continue to play in in sort of sort of the world oh sealer i know we're talking about here fake which is where the television money you know talking about salary that you were talking about from them from american sources but we're not talking about that's right for one hundred million dollars you're thirty million dollars wackadoo file gotta watch every part of the af i watched the game i thought the first goal is cheap in in other words i don't think you should call that penalty on the first hour call that pillow and that's why i was granted the second guy so yeah and that and so i really myself boom they win but the first goal made me on easy in the second half of the game i think it's great is it is greatest greatest team with julie foudy it won the world cup they won the world cup to understanding that you yes you compare championship teams have to do that at some ads running out to take great of watching soccer or which actually wonderful from me when i watch compared to another great team you know we do what the men equal pay well we don't want it again more pay very warm today outright a demand relative to the american men sorry guys tony you know i'm just getting back to las vegas summer league yeah i know where an earthquake was overshadowed by co why leonard and paul george rumbling with their talent so loss angeles i should know team personally tone they're going to the clippers first not as you and people of your ilk thought the lakers so doc rivers and the clippers after winning forty eight games last year well now at two of the best players in the league to ball hawking high scoring ins in players who could make them favorites to win the championship tone to you see the clippers as being as good as most of us and i will get to that but for people have my ilk let me say that i never thought they were going gonna middle of stephen i i never thought they were going lakers and you sat here for months mugs and said the quiet leonard say why should i should i should i just want him to go play for my man doctor but i loved it if he stayed in toronto thank you very much now are they the favorites dead at to great players they had a quiet leonard who is a two time champion with different teams and they added paul george who is not a champion at all but as long as he doesn't have the pick last shot that he shouldn't get exposed he'll probably be fine but i don't immediately discount the lakers who had a damn thing look you know lebron james has somehow in the last three months 'cause he didn't make the playoffs he has been deemed value he's gonna be the point guard on that team at if he said he's gonna be the point guard will shut always a point guard so i wouldn't automatically even i wouldn't take away from recor hokey or utah or denver i told me if i look at regular season wins i'm a look at some teams like i'm utah yeah at denver 'cause they don't have to start over the clippers and lakers to a degree and we'll know paul george is gonna be there for the first couple of weeks of the season 'cause he's had multiple boat with both surgeries on both shoulders so so there's some issues there but i think the clippers are gonna be great tony defensively when you to put patrick beverley out on the perimeter as far out now he wants to go and you will collide leonard and paul george out there that could that could be one of the great defense and i was like why see them doing your gift but that's the best offensive to some some jordan and pippen talking about litter go ahead he was he was here for the rest of it in oklahoma city one year into a four year deal you just said i get me out of well he did that miata he leads the league that getting big player who has walked away from russell westbrook second big player kevin durant walkway so you're not talking about even guys who've been traded away oh jay moore walked away away from russell westbrook they'll get to that they athletic is reporting it oklahoma city yeah now now without paul george is receptive to the idea of trading way league mvp russell west by by will bond with the thunder be wise the trade westbrook you gotta train and saving about wise they're they're getting more picks every moment they just got another first round pick from denver today harass pick pick pick pick pick sam presi has every confidence as he should he knows how the user draft he knows how to develop players his system that that's what they've done they building old fashioned way 'cause they're not getting free agents necessarily a little they they traded for paul they're not getting free agency just roll out to okay see so this is what they need to do and russell westbrook by himself with just guys that you're building with rain brady face god's unaccomplished right i don't see russel westbrook needing to safer and i'm sure they know i'm sure he does so my first instinct was to say when i saw what happened with paul george my first instinct was to say well of course they have to tread russell westbrook not thought about it for a while and then allergy i would make is to alan iverson alan iverson ever since okay team to the finals that were specifically constructed to be a group of supporting actor for him yeah maybe russell westbrook freed of the burden of having another great players around him i say calf maybe maybe that she had campaigned for that reason he has been very loyal to them veterans have not been he's been ultimately loyal to them he has very long he's been ultimate loyal guy to a smart thirty one shorter thought he she wouldn't wanna go loss angeles ahead of collide leonard that's right i am not i i give him and i really liked amount of our given credit for changing his ways last year he became a guy who put his arm around people were gonna play this way and i'm not gonna dribble the ball until there's two seconds left you bail it out no russell westbrook involved in the last couple of years while averaging a triple double as a player but it's not interview swelling why can't be that to you know but but tony you got teams out there appear to be willing to be involved with him landing well there's of course dimension of houston where he kept saying what do you think about this in certain beget james harden left him and became him there are there's only one boy me but it seems might just be involved in or chris father i am i don't know if this can happen so far more than the knicks no hope a team that could win right now if they got him who right now today milwaukee when right now if they got pregnant that but you know what they should have done they should have thought of that earlier before they let malcolm brogdon go but that he could have been the i understand anything that's why westbrook could walk right in it yeah all right tony there was such a swirl the player movement and we need to recap up about one third of the starters in the league changed teams including the top twenty players the view of this could be generational old guys like you and i are made dizzy yeah but the league's popularity among younger folks who've never been greater and more teams then ever think they have any real shot at serious contention but old man we're having the discussion right now so good thing or bad thing all this movement and then be so is it a good thing so i think in the short term it's a good thing because it puts teams into play then were not in play last year the clippers the nets even the lakers will not play last year long term and when i say long term i have to step back a second because i'm not sure there's a long term anymore bnb i'm not sure and then you aren't playing for right now so the notion of trust the process that may be going right now you did your point when paul george one year into way four year deal say trade me by midnight and have that accomplish mike i'm not sure this long term anymore so in that sense maybe it's good i think about this too because guys like us have loved seeing teams for develop develop mature and now they're all being kentucky x right and so they can be maybe two in done done you've you've got your question and transit contracts only downside is if you look let's like it's a bad team the washington wizards i don't understand why anybody would pay a dollar to see any of their games because because they are hopeless in the not hopeless you just said you know what you think well this year if you gotta owner who's here's what you have to have an owner in a precedent abbas gm who understand when the gamble you got that hey big exactly and some franchises roar sam presi it'd be so confident in successful building the shore earthly that's not the way champions bill that's right we're seeing revolution dnb eight because the players have all the power and they're saying i want to go play over were there with him right now and so you have to get on board with this it's not a question of good or bad if there is such a sea change how you leave off right now can you realized that they don't want the long term contracts six or seven years at that gave you the whole dona somebody wanna shorter contract boom guess what be careful with the nfl owners ask one right now it's i don't know if it's fun there's a lot of balls in play right now that that's interesting let's take a break coming for the pelicans over protecting john williams has has cocoa va proven that she is the future of when i joined the me i can't wait for the season already and i'm not even the off season guy any sport i can't where you are not not not one of the vegas the conversation with my presence wasn't really just give you wouldn't settle for a two star spin class a personal trainer would you so why settle for bank that treats you just like another number ally knows you deserve better and their mission is to be just that and with ally bank you'll get interest rates up to twenty times the national average you can chat with real people twenty four seven end they won't nutmeg you with hidden fees allies team actually cares about doing right by you and your money so go to eight l l y dot com for more ally bank member fdic icy males on television legend tony kornheiser robot is here to let me get the first one legit that's what they were saying that that's what say about me okay are you convinced the cocoa golf is the next big star women's tennis think she's wonderful i mean there are people out there who were young stars like sloan stevens just to pick a name of somebody who's won a major tournament in tennis world why we can't just focus some of you as it is great and i wrote it like crazy for coco golf i found myself taxing the the the words are you watching cocoa that that's that's a new thing it's awesome but then in young women out there who capriati he was sort of mixed for her writing came in stage is helping dairy but she seems so stable tony she seems so common her parents were right there with her i just like i hope it like what she appears to be i don't think you could be convinced right now the cheese the next big star alexander stevenson as they teenager went to the semi wimbledon and that was the high point of her career chris ever as a teenager went to the semi's at forest hills loss of billie jean king became one of the lowest rates and jennifer capriati straight winning all then as as a teenager went to the semi's there and heading up and down so if the question is are you convinced you could be hopeful you can't be convinced maybe not but but the young women who have gone out early and i mentioned tracy austin sure i mean they're big raw steffi i'm getting all those now confining to america oh okay that's unique pressures or we are teaming up with your team i think is yeah yeah they lambs before she was twentyish literally good art so this'll be good it'd be great gonna get bigger stronger develop more weapons is so fun the now the pelicans right the shutdowns die on for the rest of the summer they're totally right he has nothing to prove in the summer you do not want to original where you don't wanna refiners healthy playing against a bunch players would probably not gonna be out labels so being manhandled a couple of guys ready any dunks look here's here's the way i see him right now it's exactly the way i do i don't know how good he is i don't know how good he is going to be right i cannot take my eyes off and i know nobody nobody else could either 'cause i was in that crowd that night with twenty thousand people in reno watch if somebody could only get on her ears plays approve like can't hit a jump shot we have seen that has a shot he got his shot blocked by mitch mitchell robinson oh you know again we don't know how good is so but i would shut him down tony i'm actually looking at i missy earthquake by the way didn't feel it rachel and i were in a car didn't feel it i got a phone call and said for my son that additional first first earthquake what yeah i don't know that but i noticed dying tremendous namedrop defined radioed in their rachel's big rig to have a car and driver yeah rachel i just wonder rockville knees with that kid and he had to be taken out of there that he was limping worry a lot of you won't even up the bulls nothing matters except human rights when the problem with jay moore is nick slide tony i had a problem with the when i first saw the slide because the people of a certain age like you and me it reminded me way too much of it rubs pete rose ray fossey of roses gordon and ray fosse singer and that's what even is every bit as violent as higher yeah but it seems like it's a risk is that how you pronounce his name he was going to avoid if you just see how he left foot to go inside no but the catcher moves up throws and he tried to give back outside and it's too late to do all that with their body he tried to avoid the collision like it's not a slide he did not slide slide rule does he lied it it becomes at some point if you don't slide there were rules about this if you don't try the slight adam eaton had this great parts of the nazi other day if you don't find it becomes assault and battery you just can't have it you have rules like this whole i understand he tried to avoid a plow intensely that's what he did you know different pete rose try to plow race has a classic interview joakim knows that's happened to attach from pittsburgh survelliance he's gone now he quit because they had six concussions he said i can't take this anymore can't take but i don't wanna one guy for trying to avoid a collision more now i he could negotiators if he didn't lie mind you didn't baseball be pleased with the reds sleeveless leave lists look baseball should be real with this look look they cut off their shirts this is the way they go this is all marsh ten quinn silverstein from almost sixty years ago when he wasn't great power hitter for cincinnati long time he was the guy this is not a good look hey it is a good look for carrot top it is a good look for regis philbin yes rangers silver was big arms is you know again what about you outfield queens looks great guns baby garriga's is waiting for these unique god is great you either it's why only the cleveland you have these two don't remember hawk harrelson rolling up leaves underneath high as they were only guy on the wind that's how that might be true yeah this this is great this is not the white sox in those stupid shorts now from nineteen seventy whatever they have great evan this is a great look man spears now instead of just give me a launch angle and exit philosophy they'll give you a by set aside from what one runs scored scored by the cincinnati reds stock good guy out of a fan of a team with a central i gotta hear that we gotta hit about another female let's take one last break but still the gum what did we learn some team usa is lost the mexicans tony nixon worried about rj barrett's summer league start well only a few favors shooting grow well how about zion can't shoot either right you don't like the way he shoots no okay airball in a block shot jumpers that's not great in legal trouble free speech you wouldn't settle for a two star spin class a personal trainer would you so why settle for bank that treats you just like another number ally knows you deserve better and their mission is to be just that and with ally bank you'll get interest rates up to twenty times the national average you can chat with real people twenty four seven end they won't nutmeg you with hidden fees allies team actually cares about doing right by you and your money so go to eight l l y dot com for more ally bank member fdic icy interesting creature in the flat iron planes of many unfortunate build dashboard the booklet it's most agreeable and will not alone to witnessing despite having no brain function but when bobblehead here's how geico not only saves people money but also gives max at to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone you're not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because he has switching to geico is a no brainer easy easy to get whiplash on his seventh birthday jack lambert steelers linebacker one fourteen minutes to make the hall same firm the steel curtain defense the won four super bowls in six years elsie lambert so lawn doctor jack ham pass rusher mean joe greene dv mel blunt looked like a darker with his blonde hair and no teeth you ought to know seems terry bradshaw lynn swann john stallworth franco harris and mike webster and the cameras at the pizza by lambert mean joe you tell me you don't think pro football is worse off without that kind of defense love it love it out right now is offering all nine years ago the bron made his infamous decision telling jim gray on dsp and then he would take his talents to south it seems like more than nine years ago the no robert skews me widely panned city excessive egotism about announce nothing overconfident bragging of not five not six not seven among us to there but he also wants to the finals every year and every year back in cleveland afterwards we shouldn't need time predictable all they need some time understand how great nine times is having trails dwight howard you boy was traded off the line of scrimmage clearly where he's expected to be brought out a release date time all star playing only nine games with the wizards claiming her caboose it's beginning to look like they the line for the one straight howard westbound two five teams in five years without impacting our mind you think you'll get sick somebody else's desperate and begin injuries to fill out a roster late in the season but tony he has fallen so unbelievably far so unbelievably fast dwight howard doesn't exist as we knew him and it's sad 'cause he was a great player and his numbers one in place are good even now yeah but i didn't play teams don't seem seem to want to morale let us go to the big let's do it kevin durant plans to change his number thirty five to seven with the mets okay by you yeah especially if it's some sort of tributes across the capital's out there by the way i don't believe the knicks the knicks were saying we're not pam max for two years a real place with for years the money you're okay with that right i am and i wasn't misspent mexico beach usa men one meal and the gold cup final breaking down sure that they should not have been caught on the finals of the women's world with over should not have so that woman break it down to go gotta go united states did not stop rj barrett one sixteen or eighteen and then three then i watched that we've heard some early games the knicks if i wasn't there no but the missing some sort of something courage ing happening are barely better shooting might have done that twenty year old matthew pj tour event with the eagle and eighteen your thought i 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Hour 1: Don't tell me what to say

Izzy and Spain

34:28 min | 2 years ago

Hour 1: Don't tell me what to say

"Welcome to Spain. And fits the podcast. I thought I was sure I thought I was sure certain things were absolutely inevitable. One of those things is Golden State winning the NBA championship this year. We were sure that was going to happen. But we are watching some drama at this point. No matter how it ends up. I'm at least glad we're getting something we can gossip about right now. And it's not ending with the warriors every single day. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app. Siriusxm Jan lady. Sarah Spain Jason Fitz, and it's like the daily over analysis of what it means. And what it all what's going to happen next? But let's face it. A rockets team that has been rocky at best winning last night and just thumped the warriors one oh seven eighty six in a blowout loss, Sarah. And that that in and of itself was eyebrow raising. We'll get to the questions that came afterwards in a second. But Sarah, watching the rockets come out at team that has not played particularly well a team that has not been able to get their Mojo, and then have them come out and. Absolutely dominate. Golden State was shocking to me. Yeah. I mean, this is sort of one of those situations where you expect one of two things to happen. And it's either going to be exactly what we saw which is all of the turmoil all of the emotional stress and distress going on between these teammates, plus the absence of Steph curry results in a total poop on the court, which is what we saw or the opposite. They coast through yet again. And then we all come in the next day and talk about how this team is impenetrable. What happened was the first? And I think Steve Kerr's commentary afterwards about how they're not just physically but spiritually broken reveals that he understands that this goes a little deeper than maybe some other little tips that we've seen what the warriors in the past will the number of times, I feel like they could just laugh it off there. Just be some moment where you see a laugh and all of the tension breaks and everybody can just say, okay, they're going to be just fine. I keep waiting for that moment. And it didn't happen after the game. Katie was asked about his relationship with mon-, no laughing here. This is what he said though, ask me about that. That's it. Don't ask me about that. Again. I mean that is a you wanna talk about there are ways to defuse arguments. Like any married person knows that there's certain ways that they're certain things you just don't say. Like, there's certain times, it you say, you know, what let's just end this argument win or lose doesn't matter anymore. Let's just end it. There's a moment here for K D, whereas a professional athlete in a locker room. He understands how to end the discussion and coming out and even offering a fake smile and all water under the bridge. I love that guy would end the discussion telling reporters to not ask the question, again, why that is not going to end anything there. Yeah. So let's hear that one more time. Though, ask me about that. Right. Okay. Here's the thing. Like, you said he could easily squash. This. In fact, there were reports and photos of him and Draymond walking together having a civilized conversation presumably trying to mend fences. So he knows very well as just dream on. And everyone else on that team that if you don't wanna keep getting asked about it. And if your intent is to move along, and it's a long season ahead of you, try to fix things as best you can or even lie about fixing things. So that everybody else stops talking about it. Then all you do they're saying, listen, you know, it was tough day. But we we are going to move forward and things are good now. Right. Even if you're lying instead by saying what he did not only are you encouraging us to talk about it more. But your courage in us to ask about it more. And I know there's a lot of anti journalist sentiment in the world today. Not just in sports. But I reflect back to what I always said about marshawn Lynch, which is you can like the guy all you want. You can even agree that it stinks to have to. The median that the media knowing, but if you don't want to talk to media, then you can play basketball in your backyard, and if you want to be in the NBA, and you wanna make millions of dollars that's part of the job. And I think it's absolutely absurd for Kevin Durant to try to tell people not to ask about the biggest story in the NBA right now it's Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app. Siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz, and look we we can we can walk in the doors to church, but I'm gonna let Stephen A from. I take today actually take everybody to church there. 'cause Mon man. My man was full on preaching about Durant's demands. Check it out does a moments like this where I really really miss being a reporter the Jewish the set up. The you tell me do my much you tell me not understand, you dot com in can understand juice, San no comment. I'm going to say you saying you're not talking about that. No, more you go look report in a face and tell him don't ask to get like you do stop. Then he did ask you. This is like that where I I really really really miss being that guy at debt reported imagine. If you go to the Daime to ask you outta shut everybody down asked to save question over and old l like, what do you do it by ask you what you're talking about? You don't have to answer. But you tell me what to ask what not to ask? So in other words, you wanna bench and you upset because dre Maga you go hard at Drake mall, but you go go hall at a reporter. I mean, I'm telling you, I think an entire choir needs to come in. When he starts going like that. And just start singing in the background in robes. Steven steven. For all of that. There's but I I don't disagree with anything. Stephen ages said there there are so many ways that Katy can handle this. And it's just part of the pattern of Katie where I don't know if he just doesn't care about it. He doesn't wanna think about it. But in these moments of how to handle it all he has to do if they come out together. And they they're singing kun-bae on. They do one bro hug. Everybody's gonna stop talking about it. But when you've got to your point earlier Steve Kerr after the game saying they seem not only mentally physically broken but spiritually broken. And then you've got D coming out and saying don't ask me about that anymore. That's not going to stop the discussion. It only fuels it. And they're smart enough to know that. So why continue to either handle it so poorly or continue to flame the fire? Yeah. I completely agree with you. And I completely agree with Steven A. And oftentimes we're kind of joking about how Stephen as to fired up about something for his own good. The most famous of which of course, is this is not the United States toward. Rela. But in this case, I agree with him. It's an absurd thing for Kevin Durant to say, and I was hoping and wishing that we can rewind time and send Stephen in there. Because part of the issue is if you are worried about access and being able to ask these guys questions the next day without them being mad, or if you're just intimidated by a guy like Kevin Durant. And you don't feel like you can push back on that. I assure you, especially given the actual threats. That's Tiffany has lobbed over the microphone to Kevin Durant in the past for not respecting him and his sources that he would walk in there. And he would double down on the question. If you got a response like that. And sometimes that's what's needed in situations. Like this. I wish we had Stephen in there to like push that the narrative there because even if it's an awkward situation. Even if you're sick of hearing about it you caused it you and dream on together caused it, and it's not going away until people are are fully satisfied that you fix the problem. You're just making it worse here. It's so fresh too. I mean, that's that's such a key to what we're looking at here with Golden State. We haven't seen this sort of drama in public for everybody to see witness. We haven't been a part of it. And it's still going on. We're not asking Katie about his relationship which way a year and a half later where the whole room can roll their eyes and say my God, let it go. We're asking K D about these things when it makes sense because when coach Steve Kerr says things like you're about to hear. That's when we asked listen to what Kerr said after the game banged up a little bit physically. And right now, we're banged him. Spiritually I mean, that's there's no getting around that. So we've got to fill up our Cup and get our get our spirit back at our energy back, and we're going to none of that stops the conversation. So I hope people keep asking all the time ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance this year. We celebrate six years and over six hundred cars given to veterans giving thanks by providing independence for those who protect it. Learn more at keys to progress dot com. Straight ahead did a Packers lost last night. But an end to their season, and possibly an end of the tenure of Mike McCarthy, we ask ESPN's Dan Orlovsky next on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. And now I thought from Geico motorcycle it took fifteen minutes to purchase the gestation egg salad. Eat the guest ocean exuded. And regret the Gus station. Excellent. As you presented numbers to the board. Insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen exellent minutes. Does what your motorcycle insurance to gyco? Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance. Let's head to the shell Pennzoil performance line for ESPN's, Dan Orlovsky twelve year NFL vet you can follow him on Twitter at Dan Orlovsky seven, Dan, thanks for some time tonight. We appreciate it. The big matchup in the NFL over the weekend is obviously the Rams in chiefs. When you look at that. And you look at those offenses who do you think comes out ahead at the end? Oh, man. Much as I am a fan of the Rams Ran's, Sean McVay and L A imagine that that she who are clicking offense more than anyone we've seen since really the Rams of the old days in the greatest show on turf figure out a way to win the game. You know, part of is because I believe that there's a difference in their defense when Justin Houston e Ford or on the field together when I know that defense has gotten maligned a lot this year and a lot of it is due to their play. But when Justin Houston and d Ford or both playing defensive end together that defense defense. It's just a different different defense that secondary's just a little bit better. Those linebackers don't have to run as much. Figured that. They find ways to make some plays. I also believe that Cooper Cup being out for the Rams. I don't think it's going to be this crippling thing for them. But it's gonna take them some time to figure out who's going to replace Cooper Cup. Is it going to be Josh Reynolds another receiver? Are they going to go in twelve personnel? More and use both they're tied in to replace him. But it's got to take some time. I would imagine. So. It'd be a great game. Hopefully, I intimidate the chiefs finding a way to attack Marcus Peters a little bit and finding a way to score more points. Let's switch over to a different game this weekend the bears taking on the Vikings. I like to call it professor Orlovsky when you take us to the tape on Twitter, and I've been enjoying you kind of documenting Mitchell Trubisky progress there are some fair questions on the other side from those who say the bears haven't really faced any good teams. How much do you think is performance against the Vikings will tell us how he really is. And also how this team really is. Compared to other contenders will say this Trubisky goes out and on Sunday night doesn't light it up and maybe struggles here, and there it's not like I'm gonna sit there and go this kid is a bust. So now on the contrary music great defense. Minnesota's a great defense Everson Griffen. Being fact for them is a big deal if he goes out and plays the way he's played through this whole season and has another really big performance. Then then the conversations a little different for me because he's played really. Well. He's played pretty good against him solid defenses. But he hasn't played a defense like this on the state like this. And so if he goes out with his really definitive with the ball confident where he's throwing it protects. It makes the place with his feet that he has. Now, we're getting into a conversation of. Well, maybe maybe no longer even know lot. It's no longer man bitch Bisky is not going to be that good. Now, we've taken it to the next level of going. Whoa. That bears might have something really really. We got to remember this kid's only started like twenty five games since high school twenty five games, you know? So if he can go out and perform on that stage against that defense, then then everyone starting to sing praises of Ryan pace, even more. He he's on pace for four thousand ninety six yards. Thirty four touchdowns and twelve picks. Those totals would break Eric Kramer's record for the fares set in ninety five. So he is on route to shatter some of the bears passing records which isn't saying much because it's the bears. But it saying something then quickly. I wanted to ask it's funny because you were posting about Mitchell Trubisky and people were reacting positively and then saved Rosenfeld slides in with the he's not that good, Sarah. So I wonder can we get a beef going between you guys I was trying to start one. And neither of you guys took the bait. We're both. We're both. We both been ridiculed enough on. So. Moment. I saw which they said, I would I would just that all down. Listen, I loved it. They argue I love to try to I I'm smarter than people even though more often than not I'm not. But with Mitchell Trubisky, I feel really confident that no one's going to go. Find stuff on tape. That you go. There's consistent bad play there. So sage wants action on down. I love it own words ESPN's Dan Orlovsky joining us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. You can follow him on Twitter at Dan Orlovsky, seven, by the way. You can also check them out calling UAB at Texas AM on Saturday seven pm eastern on ESPN two. So Dan, one of the biggest talking points today is obviously about Mike McCarthy and what his job security status should be for Green Bay. What? Specifically have you seen when you watch Green Bay that you've seen from coach McCarthy that indicates to you whether or not he should or shouldn't be retained as the coach. Paint drying. That's how fun watching their offenses like thing, and I played against McCarthy Rogers fifteen or something times, and what has happened with Mike McCarthy is he has become so reliant on the greatness of Aaron Rodgers that he hasn't had to keep up with the time. He hasn't had to find ways to get creative and critical situations on third downs in the red zone. He hasn't had to because he's always had superman to fall back on. He's always had one of the great quarterback ever to kind of mask, the lack of creativity and a catches up to you when they may not have the weapons that they have had in the past on the outside and Rogers is a little bit banged up with his knee. And so you watch their offense, and you go dude what like eventually, we've gotta get more creative than double slant. Like, this isn't ninety three anymore. And so, you know. It's hard to struggle as a coach. It's hard to struggle with a not only a franchise quarterback. But an all time great. I mean, that's hard to not be a consistently pretty darn good football team. And so, you know, unfortunately, Mike McCarthy had a good run in Green Bay. Unfortunately for him. You know, there's been some new pieces taken away and added to that front office in different roles. Listen this is Roger fourteenth year. It's just fourteenth here. He doesn't have fourteen more. I know Tom Brady is defined physics in father time issue. And so you're you're looking at it you go. Okay. Do we have another four or five years? We can get out of Aaron Rodgers at a really high level. Do we think that the marriage of him a McCarthy is going to get us another Super Bowl because if you plays his whole career only gets one you go wait what? And so you've gotta go out and find a coach that is going to marry with where Rogers is in his career, and he's not here. Ahrends not thirty one anymore. He still it incredibly high level, but he's not the same magician that he used to be where coaches. Oh, yeah. We're really good. No. You're not the quarterback is. And so I got to imagine that they've got to look at it and go who's really the guy that can capture the next four or five years of Aaron Rodgers greatness and get us another Super Bowl. And I and it's not Mike McCarthy. Nothing over the past couple of years. It says it's Mike McCarthy talking to ESPN's Dan Orlovsky twelve year NFL that that's an interesting angle because I think people are acknowledging that last night for sure there were moments when Aaron Rodgers was not other worldly, he still had some of those plays in some of those throws. But I guess is your point that McCarthy probably has never been that good. But Aaron Rodgers was good enough to mask it. And now as he gets into the later years of his career and needs more support in the form of teammates and also good play calling. They're gonna need to get someone. Who's actually a really good coach and not just someone who's passable? Yeah. I mean, listen, no one's going to sit here and marvel that what Tom Brady has done over the back five or six years of his career. I mean marvel at it makes no sense to my brain. I'm also very aware that he still has Josh mcdaniels. That's a big part of it. I mean, Josh mcdaniels just still fantastic with play design moving people around taking maybe a guess if we want to qualify them as a lesser talent. But also getting them in situations where they could be successful a hoagie and making HOGAN it be in positions where he can use his strength McCarthy's not doing that for Aaron Rodgers. And so Rodgers needs a guy that still going to allow him to play the way he plays. But also help him a little bit. I mean, not not a hair Sunday at one I need you to carry us for the next three hours like fourteen years, you know. And so you gotta I say if you're a coach right now, and you're not. Up to date in modern offensive creativity. And utilizing all of the field in matchups and multiplicity in that movement. You're holding your players back and just because you have Aaron Rodgers doesn't mean that's not the case. Follow him on Twitter at dinner Lobski seven, remember checkout. UAB at Texas A M, Saturday, seven pm eastern on ESPN two to here. Dan on the call, Dan as always, my friend. Thanks for the time. We appreciate you. I appreciate you guys have a great night. Tune in this Sunday for football double header as the titans. Visit the colts and the saints Sosa eagles presented by vivid seats, pre-game begins at noon eastern on most ESPN radio stations. Great stuff from Dan straight ahead. Is it the coach or the quarterback? How do we know when a coach is actually great neck Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Spain and Fitz it's easy to wanna blame somebody whenever expectations aren't met. The question is how do you decide whether it's the coach with their coaches good or not when they have a great quarterback or a superstar player? It makes them Mike McCarthy conversation more interesting and less about just what we expect immoral about. Do we hold him to the same expectations? We hold any other coaches pain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app and siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz and Sarah. When you look at Mike McCarthy that coach and you look at his overall win percentage, for example. It's incredible. When you look at the Packers, and the fact that they've gone to the playoffs. What nine of his eleven years? This'll be the first time if they don't make the playoffs that he goes back to back years without a playoff berth. He's only a couple years removed from a division championship. We you see all of these things, and it's easy to look at this and say, okay, Mike McCarthy, obviously knows what he's doing, but he's not held to the same standard. Because when you have Aaron Rodgers is a coach we just heard Dan Orlovsky say he only won one Super Bowl with them. I mean, that's the changing dynamic when you're you're talking about a defining generational player with the coach. And it's why coaches are held to different standards when they have that guy. And of course, we see it all the time in New England. Right. We always say and we've actually had this conversation specifically about Aaron Rodgers. When those two were about to face off. We said how would history of look different if somehow it had been Aaron Rodgers and Bella chick in New England and Tom Brady and McCarthy or anybody else in Green Bay, and we don't know for sure right? There's also a very specific relationship between Brady and Bella chick that may not have functioned as well with Rogers there. But Brady himself said if if Aaron Rodgers was here with my coach, and my defensive strategically and everything else, and I just stole strategic Riano, then we'll he would have had more yards than me more touchdowns more Super Bowls. He's more talented than I am which is kind of a shot at Green Bay. Of course and Mike McCarthy, we can't rewrite history and figure that out. But what we can do is say that usually when you have a transcendent player someone like Aaron Rodgers, and we just talked to Dan Roloff ski about that. That can get you very far. Even if you are not bringing the play calling the personnel decisions and everything else that goes into coach. Coaching that you need Willie. And that might be what we're seeing with McCarthy in. It's not just McCarthy as much as he's a part of the conversation. But this is something we do with coaches in all sports, frankly, when they have that guy, you know, I mean realistically, there are some that wanna make the claim that Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback of all time. And when you have that when you start to say that statement, then you immediately have to sort of side, I and flip your head like it's in these drama over the other coach and say, well, did you get enough out of that guy? And that sort of it goes back even for the bulls people that want to say, well, Phil Jackson, always had great players around him and air bolster with the heat and the different expectations. He had the first couple of years when he had LeBron and company with him. And you look at these when you have that guy as a player or girl is a player when you have that transcendent once in a lifetime talent, suddenly we we think that you should be able to do all things all the time or Orlovsky mentioned how boring the offense have gotten. But he also mentioned in the same. In the same breath. You know, maybe he doesn't have the same weapons on the outside. So how do we even know when you're looking at these guys? What's good what's bad, and what should be there held to such a different standard because of the greatness around them? Yeah. I think there's been a lot of conversation over the last couple of years about the situation in Green Bay as well right about the actual talent and personnel of the team. And how that's been a let down when we look at what we would want from Aaron Rodgers career, but Mike McCarthy has been a part of that conversation routinely as well. And you mentioned Roloff ski talking about the offense. Listen to what Louis Riddick had to say about about the Packers offense. I just don't think offensively. There's a lot of creativity with this offense. I was I was sitting there typing some notes while I was watching this game preparing for today for to be on TV. And I'm sitting there going, you know, what everything with the Packers office to me always predicated and look so dependent upon Aaron doing something that just looks like backyard football, nothing really seems to happen by design or by schedule or within rhythm in this offense. And I think that is something that I think that management is going to take a hard look at because there's too much smoke surrounding this team. And this is going to come out slightly hot take. And I don't I hope that's it's received that something that Lewis said there's not to me about how it always looks like backyard football Aaron Rodgers makes plays that so many other people can't. But part of the reason he's in a position to prove to us that he can be throwing on the run Cross's body all the way to the end zone from the fifty yard line is because he's constantly put in a position where he has to freestyle, and that's in part because they're play calling in their offense is unimaginative because he finds himself on the run, and he makes something out of slop that's helped build the sort of mystique and the mythology of Aaron Rodgers. But it's in part because he's making up for for for for shortcomings in his coaching. But at the time when when you think about the event stats on it, and you look true media that we have the breaks down all of the stats at the highest level. I can find. Yards per game. This year's is an easy one. The Packers are seventh yards per game yards per play their eighth when you look at their passing yards per game. They're six when you look at their rushing yards per rush attempt their third. So when you actually look at the numbers while it may not look creative. That's the same thing. He said those guys know forget more football than I'll ever know. And I understand it doesn't look creative. And it may not look as fun. But the the results still see if I was just reading that on paper. I wouldn't be looking at it thinking. Well, there's a fail of a coaching need to change the conversation changes though because of Aaron Rodgers right? Yeah. It does because the expectations are so high. And I think I think you said it, right? There are plenty of good players who underperformer underachieve, and we'll talk about it. But I don't think we'll clamor as much for a change at the coaching or the GM position or talk as much about wasted opportunities. But them Aaron Rodgers is so transcendent. And as you said, many believe him to be the most talented quarterback of all time that if he does retire and we've watched them him win one Super Bowl, and we've watched them have seasons like this. When where they're sub five hundred while simultaneously being able to point to specific place, even though that one play might not have been the game when you punt on fourth and two with only four twenty left and you've got Aaron Rodgers, and you don't believe in Aaron Rodgers and your offense getting you to yards. You would rather try to get a stop. When your defense has been pounded all day. You could point to those and say this is part of the reason we're so disappointed. Yeah. Absolutely. We know every coach dreams of having a quarterback. I just wonder if when you get an amazing quarterback if you turn around, and you say, I now now the pressure's really on like, it's just I agree except for what dinner Lobski said, which is to say that maybe my McCarthy's not even in this league or has this job for as long as he's had if not for the greatness of his quarterback, it's possible. And I say it's possible because as much as we. Watch these games. We are not in meetings. We don't know exactly what the play calling is. We don't know. Exactly. When the guys running the right route or efficiently doing the job that they're supposed to. So how much of it is McCarthy how much of it is a combination that being said, this is a guy who probably has skated for a lot longer than he went on any other team because of Aaron Rodgers so yeah, the pressures high, but so is the payoff if he's constantly saving your, but especially in a results oriented business. It's always going to be about the results. We've just changed the expectation of results when you have a once in a lifetime player, we're brought to you by theraworx relief to to experience relief from muscle cramps in your legs and feet use their works relief fast acting foam get theraworx relief today in the pain relief file at your local pharmacy or at theraworxrelief dot com. Straight ahead. You gotta get with the times you're gonna get left behind will tell you about it next. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz sarahspain Jason Fitz. PM radio is presented by progressive insurance. Your thoughts. Welcome on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed at Spain. And fits that sarahspain. That's. Fits, sarah. Not a lot of controversy. But we've laughed a little bit over the last couple of days when we've had the opportunity to work together about a Jake degrom winning these young award. And let's remember that his ERA spectacular his record not so much, and we it's been sort of a running joke between a lot of people you, and I have found it, humorous and laughed about it. Not everybody, though, let's say that some people got a little bit heated about it. It's not a laughing matter folks, it's not on ESPN crime taking place, and that is, you know, leave it this to God's to sort of create. After the other day. I said he was the one guy who I was sure I could kick his butt on all of ESPN radio. I'm double thinking. I'm scared. I'm suddenly taken them back because when you can when you can get the wrath of Michael wilbon coming at you. Then you're too tough for me. So Stu gods being Stu gods? Got everybody a little worked up about what really matters. But Michael wilbon on PTI clapback about what you should expect from a young award. When you gotta here. Here's what he said. You know, Tony, I'm not with these people. I don't respect their judgement actually because I don't value what they value. I value winning the damn game more than the ERA, and therefore it is analytical hijacking. These people have hijacked baseball. They want to impose their will. Until you. What's important? I don't share most of them. Maybe none of their values, and it's absurd. I want winners. I want people want to win. All right. The end is you know, is not wilpon. But that's basically what it sounded like to me. And I respect Michael wilbon so much. He's my guy in my city. But I'm fascinated by anyone who still clinging to the idea of wins as the dominant statistic in deciding the greatness of a pitcher. How can you argue at any goes on later they were playing some of the some of the clips on the lebatardshow later on in PTI of him arguing with Frank solo that if only allowing run one run isn't good enough. And sometimes you just gotta allow none. And he was saying it seriously it sounded like satire it sounded like the guy who's out of touch with current statistics. It it sounded to me like hawk Harrelson who calls the White Sox games recently retired. But when asked about sabermetrics in advanced physics a couple years ago offered up his own statistics that he claims is the only one that matters. Here's what how Carrollton said this is a kid's game. It always has been and always will be. And it's a game of that TWIT w a will to win. TWIT w that's what it sounds like to me when you look at the play of degrom the ER a the actual work that he did and not the rest of the team around him. Because newsflash baseball is not a one man game. This isn't tennis. This is a whole team around him. That's letting him down on a consistent basis to the point that it became a running joke for the entirety of the season. And you're arguing that because he didn't get enough wins because the T W W didn't match up. It's fascinating to me. It reminds me a little of what I've said for a long time about quarterbacks and how we look back, and we wanna make every quarterbacks tenure about whether or not they want a Super Bowl or how many how many championships they won in a game where there's fifty three people on an active roster. I don't I don't I don't understand why that impetus is put there specifically for a player. A what we want from the world is to develop and get better. And statistics are supposed to be something that as we learn more, they can deep dive more. So that they can give us a better understanding of what's actually going on. I want my style. Disticts to become so complicated that as I get older, and as we get smarter as a society, we can look at it and say, hey, you know, what it's not just about this. It's also about that. That's exactly what is happening in baseball. So I think this is a total positive when we're not just looking at wins and losses, and suddenly we're looking at the the what created the winner the loss, and what each individual person did to be a part of that that's smarter than me. Absolutely. And that's what stood out to me. Is it feels like it's been many years now that we've been able to stay accurately and with certainty, and that everyone has agreed that wins and losses are not the metric by which you should be judging a pitcher why then to someone like will bond cling to that. It makes me think of Mike francesa saying I'm never going to be on Twitter. People don't need to know what I'm eating for lunch. And then eventually announcing his first tweet via like, dramatic countdown right work. When my dad was not really big on Email didn't really have to use. It had everyone in his office using it around him. And then I went to college, and he was like I need to. Learn how to Email you because I want to talk, right? Like these people who are like I'm never going to get into that. And then you're like, but I have to now it's me with e books right now, I'm clinging to turning the pages of a book. I don't care if it's heavy. I don't care if it's unrealistic 'cause you're done with it. And you carry it around, you know, of another one right at your disposal. I don't wanna I don't wanna read a book on a kindle. I just don't. So I'm clinging to my old hard copy books. I I like you've got that old fashioned piece. I took me long time to switch over onto things that I will admit that. I was like the whole YouTube thing, I'm still too old man for that. When you walk up to me and say have you seen on YouTube just stop the sentence because the answers theories like did you see this video? No, the answers just always know on that. So I'm still old man on that. Like, even on some of the streaming where people like, oh, you haven't seen these fifteen shows on Netflix on my now, I do I use my laptop to go to Netflix. I'll minute like I'm I'm behind on all of the with that. I'm gonna class. I've jumped ahead to the Hulu the Netflix. Whatever I watch it on my TV. Bright. And I watch it on my computer because oftentimes for whatever reason I keep getting in hotel rooms where the TV doesn't work. I have the worst ever it's so I ended up spending my time in hotels watching one of those things on my computer. Instead, it's one step at a time. I am now a fanatic of Hulu. So like now, I just have to separate from Hulu lets me watch live regular TV. So it's like feels normal. I haven't gotten to Netflix leathers know, what you guys were rejected to change on. I think we all have this like we can all admit that. We've been like get off my lawn guy tweet us at Spain. And fits let us know what you've been sort of resistant for change on by the way. If all you care about is winners. I love this stat. Thanks to our incredible ESPN, stats and info people there have been fourteen pitchers in major league baseball since two thousand that have one double digit games within ERA of six or higher. So if all you care about his wins. I guess those are the fourteen guys you want, Sarah. Just a team with that will bond tell. Spain and fits with what you're get off my lawn guy on this should be interesting. Straight ahead could have third of the NFL be looking for new head coaches in the off season. We'll get one of the most abated teams next on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio and on the ESPN app. Thanks for listening to the Spain and Fitz podcast listened to the show six to nine PM eastern on ESPN radio and subscribe to the podcast on the ESPN app.

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"Baseball tonight, the podcast this is the baseball tonight podcast for Tuesday October twenty seven, two, thousand, twenty producing from his home in the foothills of Connecticut Killer Schwenk buster only working from my home studio in New York and and Taylor tonight I could be officially wrong right at the beginning of this thing I. said five percent chance to start the season zero percent chance to get through the end of the world series and guess what the World Series could end tonight and they're gonNA get through it. You know what I would look at it like that. If are you, I would look at it is your prediction would be correct dodgers and six and. Knows about what what are you even talking about Ben I've no idea what you're saying about the start stop stuff. So we can just move on from that. Officially I guess well I guess I should stick with what I know right baseball as opposed to a pandemic world pandemic and the manifestation of it. Exactly xactly. All right. So tonight, game six of the world series the dodgers are going start opener Tony Lynn against the Tampa Bay rays blake Snell Kevin Cash. The raise manager spoke to reporters yesterday about the anxiety level facing an elimination game coming off an off day in a way I. Think it's good. Our Full Ted is going to be that much fresher You know if you WanNa talk about momentum, maybe stopped the dodgers momentum. But, we're chomping at the bit apply I. Mean I I I'm glad we have the off day, but I guarantee by six o'clock this afternoon or this evening. Wish that we were going to be at the field playing. He's talked about the importance for the raise to get leads. This is Kevin Cash. We're going to get aggressive tomorrow. If we can somehow get a lead limit them. Some of the big guys in the back into the bullpen that are that are ready to ready to go That's kind of our. Oh i. think that's what makes us special at times especially especially from the pitching department just continuing to give a different looks bid consistently being consistent with the looks that we're giving opposing lineups and more than anything. This dodger lineup just to not allow the see repeat repeated bats times through the order. It just hasn't happened yet because you're right. They're they're up one, two, three nothing. By the second or third inning, every night at feels like that certainly suggests that it blake Snell gets into trouble. Early, he's going to be aggressive with that bullpen dodgers manager Dave Roberts talked about managing game six. As a must win it's not Jewish die but I think just the mindset is we're gonNA do everything we can to win. J. Six knowing that we have. Walker. Start game seven and I'm. You know. Julio is well as far as kind of hitching. So I think outside, of Walker, Julio and and honestly. Clayton. Everyone's play during the wintertime. The big deal of the off season was for mookie betts and Dave Roberts talked about that big deal. It struck me Jason and it just does not happen especially when you're talking about the character of the person. And everything that comes with Mickey. Best. So all that it just doesn't happen. So yeah, I. Went when Andrew brought to me that it might happen I just couldn't believe it and I was kind of. Not Trying to get too excited but. I mean as it happened Jason. The player what you expect. It just exponentially. It just we gotta steal and I'm just so grateful that the deal was done because it's not only helping us this year is going to help us for. The. Next wave of young players and really enhance what we have is a culture gone for. The is going to affect players at having been drafted by the dodgers yet. So that's what I'm really excited about as well. He was asked about how long Tony Gasoline will pitch tonight I think it's it's more of the tests because he's shown that when he's rolling, he left us writings out what he's not can see that he's not unfolding So with guys behind him potentially is certainly helpful but I think for me just let go until he's not being as effective as we joey should be. talked. About. Starting Game Sex. Awesome you knows a great experience to you know have them have that confidence in me? You know it was early in the early in the series tied one one at this point. So could have any way we could have been done yesterday or you know now we're going into A. Up Three to two situation. So it feels nice to get the ball and and that kind of situation Blake Snell starting the race tonight discuss temporary his emotions. I'm pretty excited I, don't think I'll get anything past that. yeah. I mean either way it's going to be a big game and it's going to be a game that we need to win. So however, I wanNA look at it or you know make it look it's going to be the same we need to win that game so. Yeah I'm just you know I'm excited that I'm in the position that. You know I to pitch game six and that's a tough team over there. So. We don't have to keep playing really really good baseball today on ESPN daily. It's finally a time in Miami has to will we'll start a quarterback I the La Rams this weekend here whether he's ready for prime time and what's at stake that's ESPN daily subscribe wherever get your podcast. We're considered show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to show to the show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show maybe you were in the show with TV show and. David Gerald Field covers baseball free SPN, and and the other day Dave I was talking on a zoom call before gained three I. Think it was with Kevin cash the manager of the blue the raise and I asked him you know to compare the dodgers lineup with others that he's seen in his time in baseball and he pause for a second he goes you know what they'd have to be at the top you should. But they would have to be at the top and you know we think of those Yankee teams in the late nineties. They had incredible depth in their lineups, the red sox teams when they ortiz and any and Johnny Damon Guys Like Dad. But while this dodgers lineup, the production they're putting up the discipline and the toughness and the combination of it I think in this world series is. Probably been the most consistent force. What do you think? Yeah no doubt look. They're averaging five point eight runs a game and Lewke bats and cody bellinger haven't even done all that much not only in the world series that really throughout the playoffs. But that just speaks to how deep this lineup is even when you're two superstars aren't locked in exactly they're still score a lot of runs against. Obviously very, very good tammy pitching staff. Yeah. It's one of the Best I've never seen. You mentioned some of the best those nineties Indians teams would be the other one that POPs up with Manny Ramirez Jim tolmie Kenny Lofton. But Yeah, this this lineup is right up there. We did a segment on sportscenter this morning about that. And, some of the numbers that they helped to dig out fifty nine runs scored with two outs in this postseason. That's the most ever. They scored forty three runs in to strike situations, which is the most ever since they started tracking that statistic in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, four, sixty, two, extra base hits. That's the most ever, and of course in this world. Series nine different players in just five games bid on runs for them. That's the most ever some of these numbers are are compiled compilation statistics and the dodgers have played more games than for example, the twenty-seven. Yankee. So naturally, they're going to have more numbers, but it just feels like every inning that is the big challenge for the race yet. You know you know there's there's. I would say this trend bit certainly a discussion in baseball that with all the strikeouts in today's game hitters have to learn to be more aggressive and try to jump on those fast balls early in the count. That is not what the dodgers do they stick to their plan, which is control the strike zone try to wait for their pitch in. If that means two strikes in two outs, they do it and it it means Tampa Bay pitchers especially, the starters like glass now at really run up their pitch counts you know so they take their walks and when they get those baserunners why they take advantage. And they just wear down pitching staffs even in a short series even in this series with days off worn down that Tampa Bay staff a little in you look at what they've done. The starting pitchers of the race who wanted coming into the series thought was well, the raise potentially a big advantage for them is the quality of their, the front three and the rotation think about what they've done. tyler glass. Now, he's got some of the best in baseball was terrible They reduced him to a guy with a ninety or a lake Snell starting game too. He was encouraged by the race staff. attack. The dodger hitters because they're not GONNA expand the strike zone and in the end through Zeros when. They needed them early in the game when they got the lead, but he didn't get through five innings. Charlie Morton they kind of warm down. So to this point the the race starters have not been nearly as effective is they probably need in its why and maybe that explains why yesterday when Kevin Cash was asked about how he's GonNa manage tonight it was the first time where I got the sense of. Blake's now my effectively being opener tonight like he's GonNa Pitch until he gets into trouble and then you might see Kevin just say we're going to go with relievers. We're GONNA show different looks because leaving those guys out there is not a good thing for us. Yeah. You could sense the frustration in his voice. You know he's like we were down one zero or two, zero, three zero after a few linens and yeah, it's been the case the dodgers scored I in four out of five games and they Tampa Bay. Luckily came back in game four. But yeah, that's how we all five Tampa Bay was GONNA win. It had to be the starting pitchers pitching at least five innings maybe six a in writing those three or four guys in the back of the end in winning low scoring games. They haven't done this. They're still in the series somehow but yeah, Blake's now whether it is the opener does get through five innings. He's GonNa have to shut that powerful down tonight. All right today, Dave? Roberts it seems like this is. An opportunity for him to just manage hyper aggressively because they're coming off the update yesterday all of bullpen options will be available. He starting Tony Gosselin what are you seeing in him tonight as he runs his staff? Yeah it'll be interesting. You know because you do have game seven your back pocket you know. So if you're leading that's an easy decision you go for the kill you can run out all your top relievers weren't gets tricky for for Robertson Robertson's if if down a run or down to the middle innings, you know how do you use of course the trouble is really know who isley Lee pitcher czars blade. Tried in Victory Gonzalez is based on one game is still Kenley Jansen So that's where it's tricky if you're trailing runner to but yeah, God's learned he was great in the regular season hasn't been great in the playoffs. So as soon it'll be a fairly quick hook once again but maybe I would like to see him ride him a little deeper than he has been but that's all depends on how he's going. Yeah. I think that it might be until joey windows due to hit you know typically joey windows like bat and six is Tony and faces him tonight that would be a surprise to me given. Just straight bullpen game out of the shoot. No matter what straight bullpen game out of the shoot and I think that he's GonNa use Kenley Jansen at the end of the game because I know the the words of Dave before gained four resonated in my mind when we asked him about the night before Kenley was thrown ninety, three, ninety, four, his cutter was all over it was. Like crazy and Dave said before that game that was the best stuff he saw from Kenley in two years and then a few hours later you know he's on the mound when they lose the Game Kenley said after the game and I you know I mean he didn't back home plate on that last play he made some other mistakes but I thought Kenley said was also fair he broke bats. Yeah. Like he he still was his stuff wasn't the same in game four but he? was still relatively effective, which is why I think Dave will go back to them in a safe situation. Tonight I know there's there's been a lot of criticism we know he's not what he fears and his swing and misread even in the world series hasn't been that great but is looking at all the other dodge relievers none of them really have a great swing and miss rate you know whether it's gradual Triton or any of those Pedro Byas has lower than rate than. Jansen. So. There's not like one obvious guy and the trouble is every closer and postseason is compared to Mariano Rivera there's no other Mariana Rivera every other team in baseball your question, your ninth inning that this time of year. No matter what. To me at Jackson is good. Right now is anybody else they have down there so you have a piece on ESPN DOT com right now were you sensually dry out pads reasonable pass to the teams to win this world series in one of the things that you write about is who the dodger catcher will be and use you write the Dave Roberts should consider using Austin Barn I. Completely Agree With You Look I love Will Smith and I think that he's he goes along in his career given how smart he is given his obvious aptitude. He's going to get better at catching but right now it. Doesn't feel like it's close. Yeah. You know and this is small sample stuff you know. But what they're, they're six and one. I. Think when Barnes Starts Seven and five when Smith starts ask Barnes's cut Kershaw Roberts was asked about this yesterday and he says, they're thinking about it which to me probably means Barnes will be there. We have a Wiki a strip stat here at ESPN on expected called strikes when a is catching throughout the postseason barnes plus ten and Smith is minus ten barnes a better framer that's his reputation. That's what the numbers bear out and if you're GONNA do this bullpen game. I think it's more imperative that you have your best defensive catcher back there and they can still eight Smith's on his battles to will be in the lineup. So. The other day when Clayton Kershaw came out of the game, he endeavored shared a hug I talked yesterday with Dan Shulman about how I really respected Kershaw for the type of team eighty was after being pulled from the game because he knows the cameras are watching and he knows that he wants to smooth over any concerns publicly about whether or not he was taken. Out of the game and you know the general thought was a after he won that game and has two wins in the world series and potentially could be the MVP, the world series that now you just leave Malone and tournament to a spectator I. Thought more about that since yesterday and Dave I gotTa tell you I'm like you know what if the dodgers lose tonight? And they go into a game seven and they have, for example, a guy like. You know. Gina Choice standing at the plate I would reach for Kershaw. I would come out and I would leave out there for two or three innings. But in particular matchup I might put him out there because I think he's better than some of the alternatives about you. Well, my fists item on my list for the dodgers was. I mean like we can disagree. He's there's no doubt if they get to game seven and like you said, left tees up there to lefties out three batters. He's an option. No doubt. You know I would not do it but hearst me he's done his job this postseason he's four, one, two, nine, three are a he's done exactly what they needed. To to me, I, know the bullpen has been shaky but it's a good bullpen can't get too caught up in one or two bad games they have left down there. They have righties I don't think they need to use them, but I know is going to be tempted the absolutely if that comes up all right last one on the world series for you Manny Margot stolen base attempts in game five is drawing a lot of different opinions when. I was on the morning show yesterday keyshawn Johnson was saying he couldn't. He didn't like it at all I was listening on Espn York Chris canty was saying it really bugged him the man he tried to steal home plate Tim Nye yesterday on the show we felt like you know what I actually thought. It was a it was fine. It was it was a decent attempt. He was clear that it may not have been Kevin Caches first choice. That he tried to steal home plate but I was okay with it even though we got thrown out how about you? Look. It's a gutsy call in. Like so many decisions in baseball it's great. If it works out, it's terrible. It doesn't right but he was he was half an inch or whatever away from pulling it off, and there were two outs. Cure Meyer was up you know lefty on lefty. So that's not a great odds for Tampa Bay getting a hit there. I didn't bother me I know he could argue a change the momentum. But I'm with you in Tim it didn't really bother me all that much right. A couple of others I WANNA ask you about before you go there have in recent weeks been a tunnel layoffs around baseball. One thing that agents are noting is that a lot of the people being laid off around the game are people in ticket offices, which for them is an absolutely clear signal that the owners are preparing for the possibility of again, not having fans in the stands in two, thousand, twenty one and look that could change quickly you know let's say in as we get. Word of a vaccine and I, it somehow is widely distributed quickly and fans are feeling better and and at some point in two thousand, twenty one, we're back to normal. But the fact that these owners are preparing to not be in a position where they're going to be a lot of people who are selling tickets is really telling about what the winner is. GonNa be coming up what do you think? Yeah, I'm worried about that. I I don't think you know the average fan realizes how many non baseball operations people are employed. You know by an organization, all your business. All, your ticket people, the people that run the sweets you know that run the stadiums, all these kinds of people I think a lot of those. Folks unfortunately are gonNA lose their jobs because I'm with you attendance. I don't think it's going to be back anywhere close to two thousand nineteen levels next year so that ripple effect teams are GonNa. Be Prepared for that loss of revenue. To ask you about the white sox managerial vacancy before you go you know I wouldn't be surprised AJ hinch at some point emerges there. But one of the primary names that we've heard about is Tony Larussa who just turned seventy six his last season as manager was in two thousand eleven. He of course, began his major league managerial career for the White Sox. Jerry Ryan store own the White Sox at the time that he was fired and he said that he always thought it was a mistake that they let Larussa go that was the year that hawk. Harrelson was the general manager as Tony's name has popped up I. You know my instinct when I first heard it was you what it's been a long time since he managed the game has changed dramatically since then with the use of analytics is that something that the white SOx would really consider? I I'm not. Sure. It would certainly be a choice that would go against the grain of the sport at this point. It would be interesting. That's for sure but let's not forget. This is one of the all-time great managers. Hey, back in two thousand eleven world series. Tony was kind of a guy that invented the bull in game. He you know he had a pretty mediocre rotation that you're adding wainwright was out and he bullpens his way through that entire postseason. So you can kind of in a way credit him for what we're seeing now Yeah, it'd be surprising but if you look, you can be this way if he's right in just kind of to oversee everything, you have all your assistant coaches in your analytic. Staff that can guide you through all the numbers You know Tony's not anti numbers you know. But yeah, he's he would have to catch up to where the game is today and it's not a long term solution of that's the way they do it. It'd be I. Assume you brought in for a couple of years but I'm with you at in the end I think they go somebody younger Aj hinch but hey Jerry Reinsdorf who knows what he'll do there and I'd step is on the podcast before among the thirty owner, I think the most loyal owner when it comes to his own employees and keeping people. Pass the time when they should be kept is Jerry Reinsdorf he is incredibly loyal and he probably felt that through the years to Tony Larussa. So wait and see what happens. All right I appreciate a day. Okay. Thanks Muster. Jumping into the numbers. Matthew evaluating millions and leases of data in. The. Ads, Cincinnati by two hundred. This is Hembo knows and Hembo is Paulin Bikinis Research Trade ESPN is a Honcho on the show get up. He says, he's the head. Honcho Mike. Greenberg says he's just a wild party or who inspires all others about how you doing this week. I'm doing great I do enjoy however that I'm getting tweets from your listeners about my parting. This is this has stuck with it with the crowd just the you know. So this is now the cross that I have to bear. There you go. To let's listen to this. Let's go buster only standing by my friend. Robert Stanbury. Only the third is ready and here's the question as Brandon Lau hit two home runs last night buster who has the record for most multi home run games in the world series. Okay. The second most annoying thing in the world is bows Trivia. Rhode. Behind Hembo himself but you know what? I'll take a shot at it and I'll say it's Babe Ruth that is actually correct. What outcasts Babe Ruth. With. Four multi home run games in. Rio. have. I've been trying to get rid of him for years. I just can't figure out how to do it well victory Hembo. About what you couldn't use the answer like you had no access to be an unarmed free shot for me it was it was a kill shot from you and I'll tell you this. You should have been insulted because I tried to sneak by Babe Ruth Pass I try to sleep Babe Ruth Pasture that's obviously an unwritten rule and trivia. And, you recognize that you humiliated me on national. TV as well, you should and like you said that a chance for me to respond it was an easy one for you. So I have to swallow that one and you better believe the next time. The answer will not be Babe Ruth. Well we'll see I don't know if there's the next time it might have say sorry my dog. Side not on. All right. Let's talk about tonight the dodgers win the world series tonight or tomorrow. How would you define Clayton Kershaw? Taylor you're about my age. so you know the song vindicated by dashboard confessional an absolute jam, and that buster is the song. Clayton Kershaw, should be blasting in the clubhouse. Should the dodgers win today or tomorrow because that's what he'll be. He'll be vindicated. He'll be removed from that list of all time greats to never win a championship, the Carl Malone's of the world and Charles. Barkley and Dan Marino and so many others and in fairness to Clayton Kershaw, he is genuinely genuinely one of the great pictures to ever live the the best adjusted era of any starter in the modern era and he's had plenty of success within the confines of the postseason. Of course, he just hasn't won it. So I think the the best comparison draw here actually is Randy Johnson. Who we remember as being genuinely great postseason pitcher because of his two, thousand one but buster will people often forget is that at one point he held the record for most consecutive postseason losses. So his we don't do context well, historically, we remember Randy. Johnson. For what he was at the end how clutch was then so as far as I'm concerned once Clayton Kershaw get SORTA. Get this monkey off his back. That's how will remember him especially in a series in which he's already want to game. So he'll be singing I am right I swear right swear I knew it all along and I know this look to me the most concern I was talking about with David Sean feel. The most consistent forest in this world series has been the dodgers lineup but. If the dodgers, wrap it up tonight given the Kershaw has to win the series I know how narratives the media loves its narratives and it would not shock me if he were named MVP of the series. So we'll. We'll see what happens what history is the dodgers lineup on the verge of making Buster Cory seager. Justin. Turner. And Max Muncie are twenty, three, four, fifty, seven this theory. What's good for four four batting average the last time eighteen to three four hitters batted four hundred in the world series that was nineteen thirty to the Yankees did it with Joe, Sewell Babe, Ruth and Lou Gehrig in fact is only happened three times previously ended all of them, Ruth and Gehrig were involved. What is Blake Snell's magic number tonight it's fifty. That's the number of pitches I'm comfortable with him throwing the League bus only five, eighty, four pm against him within his first fifty pitches of the game. But beyond that, that number jumps to nine twenty three that ranked forty seven amongst fifty two pitchers to sort at least a dozen games and SNELL's postseason career eight of his fourteen walks and four to six home runs allowed have come after pitch number fifty and there's not really a velocity indicator here buster, it's the shape of the breaking. Most. When you're watching the game tonight once we get the pitcher number, fifty watts, the breaking ball that sort of starts to sort of lose it shaped the way that did it his last start giving cash needs a quick hook. Don't you do not do not let this deep into the game he obviously isn't planning on it, but I would even say fifty pitches would be a good outing for tonight. What is the scouting report for the Home Plate Empire? Jerry meals tonight, he has the plate who meals with right handed hitters in the box. Zone down more than any umpire in baseball, and that is the tendency that does favor lake Snell snow stroke out sixty five righties. This season forty of which have come on breaking ball in the lower half right handed hitter around the dodgers lineup have slugged five ninety on in the upper half of his own and only three ninety one on pitches in the lower half. So smells path victory. Here's pretty straightforward just town the bottom of the zone to offset that platoon disadvantage. Yeah. Send me all your notes because I'm GonNa Steal Among the pre-game show on ESPN radio tonight Last. One for you if your neighbors and you lose tonight, would you consider using Kershaw bullpen tomorrow? Of course I, would I would consider it not because Clinton Kershaw has demonstrated that he's good at it because the rest of bullpen has demonstrated that he's still might be one of their best options i. what I think the Roberts needs to do is not what he did against the nationals last year obviously, the wants Auto Anthony Rondonia experiment was an absolute disaster I think you've got to. Give kershaw cleaning and is it possible try to line them up against the couple lefties and don't let him stretch it. So that's what I would say but obviously, it depends on how everything shakes out but I think you absolutely have that leaves make him a consideration and considering the lack of outfitters in that bullpen right now especially from the left side to me is actually no-brainer her shockingly we agree how about doing this later boys. Hembo. Bleacher tweets. Already busted tweet for Tuesday. First Up, we have blue heaven at blue. Heaven underscore forty two rights in when the dodgers win tomorrow a little over your skis, their blue heaven there should one hundred percent being asterix. But not because it was a short season or easier because it was harder beat three teams away from home and a virus I mean I kind of agree at this point what do you think? And to be clear when he said the dodgers win tomorrow, he wrote it yesterday. So he said they were gonNA wrap it up in game six, which is the attitude you'd expect from someone who's twitter handle is blue heaven forty, two Look the bottom line is whether you want to look at it the way you're looking at blue. Or you want to look at it as an asterisk season. It's going to be an outlier because it's the season unlike any other next. So we got Brian Role at Baseball Brian Five he has a story similar to one bleacher tweeter sending yesterday. He writes in just heard the bleacher tweets about a guy who missed game for you mentioned the Fisk game my grandfather had tickets to Don Larsen's perfect game, but gave them to a friend who was a bigger basketball fan than he was there's gotta be wow. That's crazy. You know at least his grandfather wasn't one of the people who said Yeah I was there I players tell me that it's amazing. How ballpark fifty thousand, five, hundred, thousand people will say that they were there. Next time we got Christopher savage savage beasts rates in. Do you think handling future pandemics will be something built into the next see that is interesting because a lot of these contracts had force majeure clauses, but maybe they will have pandemic talk in them going forward. MLB ruled that their contracts with front office employees had that effectively. But that was not the case with the players and I tell you this if the if Major League baseball were to push for something like that, you know that the players association would go absolutely nuts. Can't wait get your popcorn ready. On. Air E. AT ESOTERIC ERIC zero he rates in hey buster I'm curious to hear your answer on this one. How many more stellar seasons with Nelson Cruz have to put up in order to be a legitimate hall of fame candidate okay. Just in terms of his production in his career with the numbers, he probably would need two or three more where his numbers are at the moment he's got four hundred seventeen career homers. He's got eleven hundred, fifty, two, RBI seventeen hundred, seventy, seven hits he probably needs to get over two thousand hits. He's got four top and top ten finishes P soon, we'll have A. Fifth is a Joe just at L. P. S plus is one thirty three. It's the same as Orlando Cepeda Billy Williams to all of famers. It's actually higher than Tony Gwynn or Wade Boggs, but Eric wasn't going to start with this. He had a PD suspension and this point the writers there's a, there's a small block of writers but small it's large enough to to be decisive have basically made clear if there's hard information connecting player, with PD, those players not getting hall of fame, which is why Roger Clemens who was named the Mitchell report hasn't gotten in Barry, bonds you know the the grand jury testimony the. Everything that happened with Balakot Mark Maguire acknowledging those guys are just not going through the writer. So I I don't think Nelson as a chance unless that changes. Lace I get over guys come on. No one cares anymore. tweets subscribe to rate and review this podcast where every listener podcast enjoy game six everyone. And my just to follow up on that you know my feeling I wrestle with this before I stop voting for the hall of fame thing five years ago and I got to in the end was you know what I'm GonNa let Major League Baseball and the hall of fame decide the question of eligibility if it's important enough the steroid thing. You know to take to not to not have players in the hall of fame because of steroids then don't put him on the ballot or Major League baseball you know has the power, take him off the ballot and they haven't done that in a way. Barry Bonds has been an employee of the Marlins of the giants. He's not eligible as far as the hall of fame is concerned he's not ineligible. So. Don't get where the writers are. The small chunk writers are basically determining for themselves that they're gonna be the steroid police or the morality police I. Just I don't get it That's it for today and my thanks to Dave to Hembo Taylor have a great day. Everybody. Thanks for listening stay safe and remember hate and inequality based on skin color is something we need to fight against every single day. Listening to baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash pod center. Baseball tonight, the PODCAST. This place look hunted. I don't think. So what about those two creepy girls con- stay with us. Truly. Frightening. Fairly Sandy missing on Guy Goes Great Service with Geico you get twenty four, seven access to licensed agents. Thank you creepy girls to see your room? 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lot of you are doing they're trying again in the fantasy feast seasonlong league and each week i will pick a winner there and here's the thing that's cool about that even if i don't pick you as the winner for that week guaranteed arena respond to whatever you're question may be right here on the show speaking of the show really really cool and unique big show today and timely that i think you'll really enjoy it's big showtime show so i say this every episode and i'm excited about our next guest blah blah blah but i really am excited about our next guest today because he's a guy worked with for a couple of years and thoroughly enjoyed it he has enjoyed aim meteoric much deserved rise up the charts at e s p n as one of their top play by play guys across all kinds of different sports end it's extremely timely because he will be the voice of tomorrow's hotdog dog eating contest meets the hotdog eating contest coney island my buddy adam amino about morio mr ross tucker man i i still remember showing up for a game and again i i don't know what i just got myself into the guys always so intimidated i i felt so intimidated by you read about you i had read your stuff i knew you were just like up and coming super smart football guy and i was a newbie nfl and here i am working with it you know like i was working with like a legit nfl guy edit it it you scared me so much at all i wanna do is not screw it up i don't wanna make it bad impression and i'm glad that you know seven eight years later still were still buddy there were still doing it while that's hilarious because my impression was the complete opposite mike was the heck is this kid my brother was discovered and then it's really funny because i could tell you had a good voice and you're young and it's so cool because i think i was a two series breeze ended up first nfl game that we did together and for people listening 'em night adam nor i work for sports usa anymore which is where brian or producer works and that's brian's fulltime job but adam and i did games together for sports usa nfl games every sunday for a couple of years and it's interesting thing about being partnered up with somebody for the first time because i would venture that after the second series i texted either our boss larry khan or brian who might have been there where there's i don't know and said this kid good it was it was during like you know the you know the cadence of the commercials any nfl yeah second tv timeout of the first quarter and i was like this kid good like you it really is you know it really is funny that a lotta times and this is the same for playing in a lot of things in life you really can kind of tell right away right or wrong you could tell especially if especially they're good you know they struggle well then maybe it just takes me one more time or whatever but you were just so good so so sharp so smooth right away i was like oh awesome this kid good knows i i remember just kind i'm so excited 'cause i never w nfl before an you know i'm so happy 'cause i'm still i still get the chance to do it you know we both get a chance to cover this great leads an i just didn't think i was gonna have another shot right i'm getting to this this short opportunity and i'm sure everybody feels this way in whatever job you end up in and i'm sure you felt the same way in all these different ventures that you you've been so great with these last few years ross it's like all i wanna do is make a good impression just so they bring me back and it's like that's that's the attitude i that that that see i gotta go into all this stuff you know like we we were talking off air you know were were both lucky they get to do so many different things and kind of flex a lot of different creative muscles but like you wanna just make sure that regardless of what you're doing a good quality you know and you want the people around you be comfortable with that it's it's hard sometimes it's hard to keep that up and i imagine you know for you to that's why i'm so impressed you know i know i know biased 'cause you're my friend but i'm so impressed what you do because there's so many different things you're doing so well i at such different levels i just i appreciate that about you my friend i really do well thanks for saying that you know it's funny i i can't tell 'em i can't really explain the details everything yet but you know i i i had some opportunities that 'em ended for me last year you know a nbc loss t see ivy league package in that way yes pnn so i ended up doing a couple of those games and then a you know westwood one had been doing a sunday game 'em i bureau sunday game every year every every week for them nfl game in the booth for years after i love sports usa and they decided last year did not do sunday afternoon games was the one only does primetime games now they only do standalone games and so you know i went from i dunno six seven years in a row where i did at least twenty five games to you know for a couple of weeks there i had zero hour scrambling to get opportunities and you know i i can't and now all of them yet but i ended up getting some more opportunities as a result i mean the one is that i can say 'cause it's public is you know i i ended up doing eagles pregame on wsb radio in philly philly as a result of not having a sunday afternoon game the call and the next thing you know a mike mayock leaves the eagles preseason television boost to go to the raiders is gm an i am convinced in part because i was on eagles pregame in some of the money for that comes from the philadelphia eagles so i met those working for them you know that i don't think i get that opportunity a as this year i'll be calling their television preseason telecast for the first time i don't think i get that unless i do the pregame which i don't do unless westwood one decides last year now did you sunday afternoon games i'll give you an example prefer for me is well a couple of years ago i was up for the chicago white sox tv job at halftime job you know the guy that had been doing it for you know almost three decades a hawk harrelson was taking a step back and taking you know half the season off and that was a job i would three miles from that ballpark in chicago and i'm like man that would have been a great job they have an i don't get the gig and i'm distraught i'm like i can't believe that this would have been perfect job for me i could have done it in concert with other stuff and then i i don't get the job what happens for months later one of my bosses says hey you're you're not doing in baseball right now no i i didn't get this gig he goes oh great you're gonna do dnb playoffs for us and it's it's it's amazing because now here i am two and a half three years later and now like i'm i'm i'm one of the mb eight guys now free sp at and i do know major playoff games and i do games for the bulls in chicago locally and it's some of this stuff never you don't you never understand it in the moment it's always like i can't believe this happened the things what what's what's what's gonna happen because of that what's gonna be the positive butterfly effect because you can't necessarily see it in the moment but man it's so great to hear stories like that i think i i think i have a story that hopefully people could relate to in that regard i think they can do yours as well where like god i can't believe it's terrible thing happen and then it turns out to be the best possible thing because it opens up all these other at all right so for people that don't know you 'em one develop home grew up outside of chicago that's valparaiso razer people don't know 'em grew up outside of chicago and how how how'd you get him at the start yeah it was it was not something hours into man it wasn't like a thing that i was all gung ho about out and all of a sudden a i had a buddy of mine while i was in high school who is going to valparaiso and he will working at the radio station and said i know you've dabbled in some of the broadcasting stuff which is true and it was literally that just dabbling like once in a while i would participate dissipated at at the public access station in in my hometown and my buddy said you know if you wanna do it if you wanna try pursuing this like come here i'll put you on the radio like you could use sports news whatever so sight unseen i applied i got in and my first day there was orientation and the first time i've ever seen the campus i never been on campus i know what the buildings look like i don't know what the programs like i knew they had a tv radio program i knew my buddy told me that i should go and that was it and i said okay let's give it a shot the first place i went to the radio station i went to be advisor instead my friend told me the economy here what do i need to do an from then on you couldn't get me out of the radio station unless it was the go work another event for the radio station it was concerts news sports i was doing play by play of is hosting in studio and i'm like this is it i liked it this is fun their sports performance it's it's like a little bit of theater it had all these cool elements and i'm like all right i'm not terrible at it let's give it a shot and i stuck with it and it ended up leading the you know the the the kind of not not standard past put into a path that leads to a you know a good position it it's small town radio in iowa that it's minor league baseball in indiana new jersey and then it's doing freelance tv stuff at these low level division two division three schools and putting enough resonate haven cobbling it up enough together to show somebody like hey i have i i have something is it good and if it's not tell me how to be better if it's tell me what i need to do next and eventually i got a chance to work at e s p n after you know a couple of years out of college which is which is rare i i had a lot of breaks but it was a it was a crazy ride well and now i see you do on television the women's final four i think you're doing like sunday night baseball for radio may be a major league baseball i know you're calling the nfl games 'cause here you sometimes 'em i mean what what else are you md playoffs you mentioned wondering like you're you're you're mean opportunities now yeah it's it's it's a fun schedule and i and i liked a lot of us kind of start during football season but i'm going into my second year doing the bears preseason games i'm thrilled for you man congratulations the eagles 'cause i'm so pumped for that i know how fun it is to be kind of party you're hometowns tv broadcast and you're kind of introducing the team again to the whole the whole city and it's a it was a blast last year and i get to do that again this year so that'll be great a that takes me right in the college football on dsp n a handle the thursday night package a so we get central are schedule is set we know where we're going we get the thursday night showcase game a from there i go doing nfl game on radio every sunday a and then i i do major league baseball on on tv and radio i do bnb eight on tv and radio free sbn and then i'll do some games for the bulls on the side like you know handful of games just fill it in a i got to college sophomore in college world series the last five years a cutting edge mb a playoffs like you talked about on radio conference finals so it's a it's a full schedule you know it's it's seven eight different sports send it over to men's and women's college basketball adding both of those little bugs it's it's a it's a wild a bounce back and forth between this pace of game this cadence on a call in this medium on radio this medium tv any you know like we were talking about earlier get the flex a lot of different muscles that you know you you you enjoy being able to enjoy being able to see all these different sports and work with all these coaches analyst a it's it's a wild schedule but it's really satisfying it's fine sketch all right so let's talk about tomorrow let's talk about the hotdog eating contest is worse yeah you know what i'm doing it last year it it was just nuts 'cause they called me and he has stand there like we know you like food and that became like a common thing and i know you know i love you're press box of rankings to ross because you know i i consider myself somebody who enjoys a great meal in any situation it could be a nice five star restaurant it could be the press box meal at lambeau field which by the way is one of the top three i think you and i always the tournament that's one of the top at least when we're running around the circuit that was one of the top please go free press box meals so i feel like a guy that that that became kind of a niche thing is we use the talk about food and are college football broadcasts and all this so they said why don't why don't you do the hot dog contest we need somebody to do it once you give it a shot and i said why not that would that would that would be attitude i had like why not let's go for it and we got the sea world recor last year in the preparation is ross is about the same as it would be running of the broadcast you got all these participants you've got some stats in record's legitimate stats and record's better kept up like this a an annual personal best and you have anecdotes and you have great stories you know joey chestnut is a great story is a person being a construction for men eventually making the transition of doing this fulltime all right it is the preparation is about the same day event has a big event feel to it and one of the things start to just call it like you said you'd call it exactly how you would anything else on tv radio you're just walking people through the entirety of the process during that ten minutes stretch and it's a it's a it's a strange unique fun a rembrandt telecast be affordable is there hey 'em like what what would you say to people about it they wouldn't realize they wouldn't know where that might surprise them about it you know i i think the thing stuck out a and i i come a little bit short of declaring all these people athletes but in a lot of ways like their athletes in their own their own form in fashion and they're not all you know a hundred pounds and too heavy years something like that like some you know some big people but these these people take this seriously there in really good shape believe it or not mickey pseudo who's the women's champion does like cross cross country skiing is like workout joey chestnut is running miles every single day of these guys these guys and gals her and like really good shape like they treat this like a competition like they're pushing their bodies to a certain limit and they're not just gorging themselves on you know junk food all the time they eat really clean during the week and they have very strict workout regimen so they have very strict eating regimen to train their bodies the get used to this action so when you look at it in that sense i know it's a little strange to say like these eaters are athletes i think in their own way they really are because they really push themselves physically in and to know that it's a learned that the kind of absorb that info at it makes you appreciate these people a little bit more this is a gross you out at all like being right there in watching it grosses me out it's not the hotdogs it's the brian the burden is on the part that gross me out a little bit because they you know i get the process you know they dip it in today a little water oh they split the dog and a half east the dog you know this will kobayashi used to do i think it was called the solomon method it's like a real thing it's called the solomon bethany you'd split the dog eat the dog if the blood in the water and then consumed the buns as it was breaking down like scientifically makes a lotta sense but it is gross process to watch that's the only thing it's not the hotdogs that get you it's it's the the button debris of all this white bread going in the water and breaking down and the remnants of that that's the part that's a little bit rose but the the hotdogs themselves now that being said i can't remember the last time i actually ate a hotdog since the fourth of july last year so maybe maybe you did gross me out more that i realized i think the judge should be legal but that's just not how how about this in the bud in water doesn't feel right now it's just that's not natural to me i would say don't even have either don't have the bond or you can't dip it in water but doing something that's just totally foreign eating a hotdog just seems silly demean that would be i'm not even kidding if i could make one adjustment to watch it i would say yeah you can't do that you know it's it's it's like every nfl rules committee you know we're always like looking at the rule adjustments that could be made like you know i dunno i liked the idea of replay on pass interference calls while you know what this is i know it's a different idea but this may actually workout we had a little bit of controversy to last year in in terms of like the count of how many hotdogs and buns joey chestnut eaten by the end of it we realized oh my gosh she has x x we had the world director at seventy four but like there have been some spotting controversies in some replay issues i can't believe that at the point in sports now an not even necessarily just sports but events like this where we have replay review because it's that important now you know there's a lot riding on these things were a lot of these buttons so last question on that would just be what what's it like for them after an event like that but you know if you've ever taught all these guys i know you're hitting the head of there but what to like after you eat however many hotdogs like what's it like gastro intestinal tony for these guys i've talked to a couple of about a man it's not it's not pretty but i i understand that it's a method is part of their physical process a lot of on a will not eat a corrupt to about thirty six hours after a they finish up a contest like this not just the hotdogs anything anything where they any any of these competitions a were they ingest just a large amount of food in general a in particular you know chestnut he won't eat for about a day and a half afterwards and then like i said they have very strict regimen so he'll go on like a detox where it's just like liquid a per day a in a half maybe you're just a day you know maybe a couple of days after the competition and then they go back the kind of eating at a normal pace normal schedule normal caloric intake and back exercising and things like that so i it's not like i said it's up pretty for a lot of but a they go through their processes just like anybody else has the post game ritual or post the post game cool down or whatever process they go through there along with what happens in the coming days after a competition like that it's pretty it's pretty interesting how different it how do once they are yeah i i remember when i was playing for the bills they asked if i would go to the wing eating contest a that was at dia the buffalo bulls i think now wherever the aaa team is there and buffalo but yeah yeah 'em they asked if i would go so i did and i was blown away because the person that one was where do you guys car like the black widow or something like that eras zona only early surrender girl yeah sonia thomas what's known as the black widow and she's like one of the legends on the on the on the women's competitive eating circuit a an end put together like like like i am smaller they just like a quarter of my size it feels like i'm not a big dude did you know rise so i'm towering over this this woman yet here she is put down forty you know thirty plus forty plus hotdogs and bud in these competitions again that's what's so amazing about it it's amazing what the human body can do due to absorb this much matter like it's just funny to me that were all from the somehow often the same species an like somebody you'll fraction of their size can consume you know two three times it's not as much food it's it's incredible side about how last question what's the one event you haven't done so far that you'd love to do someday it just started this week a i think wimbledon is something a you know i i feel like there's certain places that be area the place the zone of that of that event and they venue itself ads city aesthetic of it i think about you know augusta and the masters at how much the venue would sell meets the actual event and i think we're building a little bit like that center court a the strawberries and cream the kind of atmosphere the goes around wimbledon the way they beat the people approach it and talk about it with reverence and stuff i've done college football championships i've done mbh playoff games a you know i've done college basketball championship so i've seen some cool stuff but i feel like be event at the venue itself is something that makes wimbledon really special like the wild like it'd be there to be a part of the broadcast that's it's awesome it feels to me it's almost like d a masters of tennis you know like yeah where it's like almost like the venue itself is the star of the event absolutely and i i feel like you know that's part of part of the fun of when the nfl who's the london now in major league baseball this past week went to london for the first time and just the way that the the venue itself really adds to kind of magical moment you know people are seeing something they've never seen before they're seeing a high caliber quality matchup whatever it may be i think it's awesome with the venue itself is part of the attraction of going to a place like that the city the venue all of it adam always appreciate the time so great to see you on tv and you're success i'm glad we got chance to chat and i'll be watching listening tomorrow appreciate it buddy thank you so much you know the one thing i failed to mention with adam is he's also really into fantasy football you ever look him on twitter or talk to to adam so i would recommend maybe i should have offered him the chance to be in the season long fantasy feast eating league you guys know and i'll talk about it on today's fantasy feast feast episode but i'm asking you to be creative there's lots of different ways that you could be creative i have a guy bri that sent me twelve different i pga's which i'm pretty sure is illegal across state dateline but they're delicious and amazing i'll let me just tell you a little sneak preview he's getting in the league today and i haven't decided yet duty other person is educating the league today so you wanna go head to head against me an event in a season long fantasy league get to go against the best have some fun talk some trash just send me any sponsor confirmation butcher box or whatever from the sponsor page at ross tucker dot com or amazon or whatever i think somebody made like a drawing that they sent me in the mouth i like this by saying be creative we like when people get are certainly we like when people get a some year from ross tucker dot com so lots of ways you could you could easily looking forward to it let's start today with some running backs in the news unfortunately for the wrong reasons cowboys zeke elliott west commissioner roger goodell and browns running back kareem hunt questioned by police after an incident outside of cleveland bar last weekend right any issue bri israeli that both of these guys have had previous issues that that's that's the concern here that's what we're worried about and so as for zeke if you saw the video a you know he walked into knew a guy out in las vegas the guy fell over it was kind of a flop but still just not smart by zeke to put him in self in that situation at all and when you think about these other videos that have been out there you know we know what he's already been suspended six games for we know you know the video where he lifts the girls top and there's other stuff out there you just doesn't make very smart decisions and i think that's the concern of nfl is here you have one of the marquee players on you know v marquee teamer one of these marquee teams you just can't have him continually in the news the wrong reason he issued an apology we'll see whether or not he is ultimately suspended the cowboys say they don't think he will be but they didn't think that last time either so i will have to ultimately see what what ends up happening there then you've got kareem hunt who he's been involved in like three or four things over the last year so which prompted after the video came out of him hitting and kicking a woman prompted the chiefs to release him the browns ultimately ended up signing him and now he's being questioned by police after an incident outside of cleveland stephen bar over the weekend the point or make there is no charges he reportedly wasn't involved but everybody listening think about how many times you've been questioned by police in your life think about that okay now do you think he should be in a spot or in a situation where police are questioning him and i dunno supposedly was in one his friends got and argument but he really a specially whereas what happened earlier you know with what happened earlier this year he really just should not put him in self in any situation where you could possibly even just be at the wrong place at the wrong time even if he did everything wrong and it seems like that's exactly what he's doing putting himself in a position to be at the wrong place at the wrong time other news glitzy bills selling pieces of the turf and kansas city radio host who commented on andy reid son suicide loses his job the hall of fame talking about accepting twenty new members in twenty twenty i n c b h talks heating up between the nfl in the nfl p eight so there's a bunch of stuff again to i think the selling the pieces of the turf is cool my guess is they like frame it for you and it says you know bills stadium turf kind of a cool thing they have a new man cave up on the wall like that's a piece of the turf for the guys played that school i was not cool is what the casey radio host said about andy reid son and mentioning a the suicide and saying andy reed's not good at sixteen people it shows eight complete lack of understanding number one for addiction and number two you know the one thing i will never do as part of my jobs in the media i will never attack someone's family or family dynamic because the one thing i know and i can't speak to experience from this is you really don't know you you really don't know what's going on a lot of times in family situations and and i'll leave it at that you know because i think a lot of times you think you know but you don't you don't know all the details as far as a hall of fame accepting twenty new members it will be primarily soling it'd be five modern days but it's gonna be primarily for seniors candidates guys at ronald decade teams that haven't made it as well as some coaches and contributors i have mixed emotions i'm sure they're all deserving but i'm always of the mindset that it should be real hard to get in and that's what makes it special as first gbh talks heating up between nfl nfl nfl p i man i hope so that would be great you know the more the merrier in that regard because and i think here's what happens i think with the tv deals coming up soon and with going into the last year of a league year and they're special rules when you get to last year of the league year i think do owners are specially motivated to get this extended now and so that could be a very good thing for the players and that's certainly something that the players are gonna have to try to take advantage of you know if if the if you owners give him a good deal i i don't think like i saw where profootballtalk reported jerry jones is eight central figure in all of this and i wonder if you know perhaps part of that 'cause he's got a budget contract contract extensions he needs to do and they're going into the last year of a of a collective bargaining agreement makes it a lot tougher you know as part of the reason why the eagles got the carson wentz deal done now is because there are issues when you're in that last year end or going in the last year of of a league year so i wonder if that's part of it as well i also know it's very school you know to watch the women's world cup it's amazing by the way brian i don't have you been watching the women's world cup right i haven't watched it but i had been following it i've been following it reading the stories online it's amazing and i'm gonna tell you this in the bed online dot agee 'cause you can use the promo code podcast one to get eight fifty percent welcome bonus and maybe you wanna bet on the world cup final that usa will be in maybe you're just ready to bet on bnb hey now the you know the dust is settled for everybody other than co why it's bet online dot agee lot of teams by the way the clippers the lakers occurs the raptors all kind of on hold until they find out what co why is going to do but i digress only get back to the world cup first of all i thought that v a that england got a little bit of a raw deal only offsides but then i'm not sure that they should they should have gotten a penalty kick guy there so it probably even doubt as far as the replay is concerned concerned but my point would be bri you know how i always say you could bet on bet online you spent online that age you bet on baseball or whatever any of these sports that i'm really not that into it is amazing how much more i'm i'm into a sport when you know it's actually a national thing you know when it's are country like i don't ever watch any olympic sports unless hd olympics in as the uscca competing as other countries same early was men's soccer women's soccer minutes just a lot of sports out there that i'm really not into unless it's the uscca competing against other sports other countries i should say which i think is interesting i don't know makes me wish the uscca compete against other countries in football but a we know how that would go at this point bet online dot agee by the promo code podcast one they'll do it for eight wisdom wins day edition of the right here ross tucker football podcast you guys know by the way wednesdays are big for us we will have a new fantasy feast with evan silva we got marcus grant from nfl dot com joining us very bright guy and then we also by the way evan has a big announcement to make on today's fantasy feast and then steve says it could i have a lot to go over with the women's world cup and then be eight in more on the even money podcast today and yesterday was great on the college draft podcast with mike renner talking from pro football focus talking about how pro 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Aaron Boone on His Playing Day with the Yankees

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

34:47 min | 1 year ago

Aaron Boone on His Playing Day with the Yankees

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast board Thursday March Twenty Six two thousand twenty and buster only in my home studio in Westchester County Northern New York City Killer. Schwenk producing from his home studio up in Connecticut. We'll today is supposed to be opening day today. I'M SUPPOSED TO BE IN HOUSTON ANGELS AND ASTROS. The mets are supposed to host the world champion nationals today cubs in brewers games all over the place but those games are not taking place. Here's what's important. The fact that those games aren't being played is helping to keep people healthy at a time on our country is fighting a pandemic. The people affected are at the top of mind all the People. Who are ill or all the healthcare workers who tried to help them out. We hope gas can provide a brief respite in today. Yankees manager. Aaron Boone on the home run that sent to the Yankees to the world series and game seven of the two thousand three American League Championship series. News notes Robin effort was on Sportscenter last night and he acknowledged that he full season probably is not going to be played he told. Scott Van Pelt. Were probably not gonna be able to do one hundred sixty two game season. I think that's clear. What am I GONNA BE CANDU? Manfred says he's quote unquote experiment. The ideas include an increase in doubleheaders. In Manfred did not rule out Games of the seven inning variety. We also got news from the San Francisco. Chronicle that giants broadcaster Jon Miller and his wife are have been tested for corona virus? Other members of his family have gone ill. Now before we get Darren Boone. I want to mention The SBP podcast of course. Last night. He Interview Rob Manfred. Don't forget in addition to having his own sportscenter he also has a podcast that drops every Tuesday evening. Sp pod he takes famous Sharma Biz off the TV set in Indy. Rears you can find. Sp pod wherever get your podcast opening day in baseball but no games for reasons? Far More important than anything that we do here. Aaron Boone is manager the Yankees and Boonie. What are you doing today well? I got a little workout in after I you know sat around watching a little news. This morning You know kids are going through their their schooling you know from the House got outside. My wife got on the trampoline and my daughter so I was. I was enjoying that And you know and then just feel a little bit Sad obviously knowing the excitement of of this day and how much it's you know meant to me and so many of us but you know I think myself of of just what it means to me my whole life you opening day and what a special day that is for it to be here now and not being able to go through. It is difficult but you also temper that and make sure you have the right perspective which I feel like I do on on. Kinda doing our part right now and hopefully Having that opening day At some point not too long. It feels like you're working to keep connected with everybody. I know there's a video out there that You took a gone over to garyk. Kohl's house and watch and he and his wife catch. Yeah Yeah no question Trying to keep connection with with my coaches you know trying to communicate with them pretty much on a daily basis. We have a coach's thread tex chain. Were constantly kind of talk to each other on You know communicating with my players as much as I can keep tabs on them and just checking in and making sure they're doing all right Garrett lives close to me so I've been able to go over and throw with him. I went over yesterday again. through with him the news front yard so yeah just as best we can try to make the best of the situation and and try its support people When and where we can. I know you know all the years you played one of the things you talking with players. They always talked about. How during rain delays you. You weren't quite sure when to get ready to play and it feels like that like that times one hundred you know preparedness level what to what are you going to try to kind of keep everybody going. So whenever you get the all clear sign and ready to go The people in that position. Yeah exactly I mean. That's that's probably the biggest challenge is what what is right you know what is the right amount. You know I think you start with your biggest concern is obviously the pictures you know pictures that were by and large a couple of weeks away from being fully built up for the regular season and then kind of having to Kinda throttle back. What's the right level to throttle back? Who's able to you? Know to varying degrees guys are able to continue to work throw So trying as best we can do to keep tabs on to communicate to log in what guys are doing and and kind of creating a database for that so so that when we do get that signal that hey this this date. We're going to be back in spring training or this is when we're starting back up You know we can weaken as best. We can make smart decisions to put put guys in position to build back up in a responsible way and you know same kind of thing with with our our position players as well just trying to trying to monitor and keep track of what they're doing as best we can so that You know when we come back. We're we're coming back. Is You know as safely as we can but Anna smartly as we can but also That these guys are ready to go when that fell. Rinks all right when I asked you the other day to join us in the PODCAST. I mentioned to you that in this time with with no baseball being played we've Kinda of dug into the memory banks and gone and revisited. Some some special game some special moments. We talked with David freeze. We talked with Dave Roberts and I realized as I prepared for this with you. I in all the years that we worked together to. Espn you know taking drives the Sunday night baseball. I never asked you about the home. Run that you had off Tim. Wakefield in two thousand three probably. Because I just didn't want to be you know the fan boy and and ask you the same questions that everybody else does. But today I get to do that. Okay okay so let's go back to July thirty first two thousand and three year with the Cincinnati Reds and you get traded to the Yankees. How did you feel about that one? That one day when that went down the level of emotions that I felt on that day you know going to bed the night before knowing that I was probably going to be traded the next morning I went to bed and talking to my agent Adam catch. He said it's probably going to be the dodgers the mariners of the Yankees. Those are the three teams that are in on this and the next morning I woke up and Adam cats that you'll be getting a call from Brian Cashman here any minute. Sure enough he called and and I had been traded in and I remember him saying can. Can you were in Anaheim? The Yankees weren't Anaheim. I was in Cincinnati. And can you get out to Oakland? That's where we play tomorrow and I'm like yeah sure you know and so but but saying goodbye to Cincinnati was really really difficult a place that I loved it was an organization that I grew up in that so I knew so many people. So well It's you know where I own my first home You know so I was. I was entrenched in the town in the city. So it's difficult to say goodbye but also the excitement of of you know going to the Yankees and going Oh pennant race and so it was a very very emotional day You know good and bad saying goodbye to people I love but but also the excitement of what was ahead and so I met the team the next day out in Oakland and my first three games with the Yankees were Hudson Zito molter and I remember thinking on the Sunday at the end of the series. I was like you know I just met you. In New York it would have been a little bit easier but That was my baptism into into the American league. Which was which was awesome. It was it was great going there being there and being a part of it and start an attorney. What was your first conversation like with with Joe? Torry after you were traded there. And how much did you know him? I knew him pretty well actually Because when when my dad was with the angels there was a couple year period at least where Joe. Torry was a teacher for with the angels so he was the color commentator with the angel also. you know and that was at some point in the eighties. I don't know what years exactly so I was. Probably you know you know. Twelve thirteen fourteen year. Old Kid And so I knew Joe you know as as a kid at least pretty well and then you know crossing paths with them playing against you know in spring training you know playing against the Yankees or whatever I team that year. The Yankees played us in Cincinnati and interleague so I had passing with him over the years wouldn't ZANU him great but I knew him and knew him. A lot of my life I I remember the first conversation in in in his office in Oakland. You know they're his excitement to have me and You know did a lot to really put me at ease because obviously there's so much that goes into getting traded at that point of the season You know that I don't think people always account for I mean it's one thing to the baseball part of it but it's but it's just you know it was my first year being married. You know so moving my wife and pets and having a place in Cincinnati. Now all of a sudden. I'm in Oakland tomorrow. And I'm finding a place to live in New York. All the away from the field stuff that goes into to you know switching teams and and he was just a calming Voice of calming figure and You know I remember one thing. He told me in that Miti said and don't read the papers. I was the last thing he said to me so But he was he was a you know you know. You don't know what to expect you're going to the New York Yankees and how big that is. And and he was certainly a a calming presence for me right out of the gate. What was it like to play alongside Derek? Jeter as you join the team. It was awesome. You know you know me well enough to know that you know. I think I know this game. Pretty well I follow this game. I'm a fan of this game. I've been at all my life so you know playing in the other league Even though you know I you know I wasn't playing against him regularly or didn't see them much being in the other league. You know I still follow the game to know inhabit thought and opinion of Derrick jeeter and and the way I put it is when when I went to the Yankees I I was giving an opportunity to go play with a great player and I was fortunate to come from situation where my shortstop was. Barry Larkin so I play. I'm playing along to hall of famers back to back here so I knew I was going to play with a great player the way I would put it when I got finished with that season was I had no idea how good he was. He was he was amazing. He was such cry the best competitor I ever played with. He was just he was. There was a a controlled intensity to the way he played the game. The way I put it as like the quote I put on. It is give me the ball you know like whenever they give me a little I got was was the way he played the game and the confidence which with the play and and that's another thing he was you know we can talk about more talented players and more gifted players or whatever but he he was such a great competitor and and probably as confident a player as I ever played played with as well. I was GONNA say among position players that I covered. I think Derek assumed he was going to prevail and I am which is a hard thing to get to as a position player. Yeah he he did and and Yeah it's just like in the most crucial moments to the game or there was just this this fierce intensity to him that like. I'm not going to be denied here. And and they're really stood out to me In hindsight have when I played with them right. So I asked Dave Roberts the of the day about what it was like to be in the middle dropped in the middle of Red Sox Yankees. He of course was dead in two thousand four first time. You've got to participate in one of those games. What was that like even for someone who's been in the game your whole life so it was in August and it was in Boston before I left the reds. You know I was saying goodbye and sitting around with some guys in the reds clubhouse tourist getting ready to leave and Tim Nehring was in the front office with the reds at that point. He's now of course a vice president with us with the Yankees so and he obviously it played for the for the Red Sox for a long time back in the ninety so he goes. Hey man you have no idea what you're walking into and I thought sure I do I. I know what I know the game. I know what's going on and my first trip to to Boston in August and he was right. I had no idea what I was walking. Just just the awesomeness the intensity of that rivalry. You know. I'll tell you a story my wife and I. My wife came on that trip. And we're checking into a Ritz Carlton with the team in Boston. Obviously a very nice hotel And had a key went up to to check. Open my door into my room at the hotel. My wife and I are the keys not working so I called down to the front desk. They come up. This guy comes up to the to my room. And he's got. He's working on the lock. And I jokingly say to my wife must be red sox fan and and Ritz Carlton. They're they're they're they're very great. Great at service vary treat their guests. Great he looks up at me with this glare. I'll never forget I was like yeah. That's right I was like Whoa okay. And what's funny about that story? Is this year. We're the hotel. We now stay out as a different hotel in Boston. And I noticed in the lobby working at the hotel. We're staying at this past season. That famous guy that worked on my door. I'll never forget his fate. You're sitting and so i. I'm not kidding. So I went up to him. I Mike did you used to work at the Ritz Carlton like back in the early. Two thousand six said yes and I said I will never forget. Because now he's graduated to higher up with this Hotel we stay at and I'm like I will never forget your face but do you remember you came up and let me in and I told him that story and he just kind of laughed and he said Yeah. I'm a pretty big fan but it was. It was awesome because I was with a couple of guys with a couple of my coaches. I Say I'll never forget that guy's face and I tell them the story so anyway so he might myself a nice guy that let us in Have a pretty good laugh about that now. A couple times I went back to that hotel This past season so you can. Based on that experience you probably can believe. Those old stories Lakers used to tell about the air conditioning being Suddenly broken when they're in the boss Nygaard and things like that. Yeah I tend to. I tend to understand that exactly all right. Let's fast forward to the American League Championship series. You guys are up three to two in this series three games to two seventh inning of game. Six you lose a six to four lead. Boston wins a game to even the series and then we go to game seven. And what I you know just going back and look at the at the record and different things that happen. In those years you played every day in two thousand and two you played one hundred sixty two games in two thousand and three. You played in one hundred sixty games and during that series You were taken out of a lineup. I think it was for gained three and Ricky Wilson Steps in. How are you feeling at the plate in early series? All right so you know I I. I was for better for worse in my career rather streaky when I was good I was pretty darn when I was struggling I could. I could struggle with the best of them so I swung about pretty well in the previous series and then I was just kind of not right not swinging well in in the Boston series and Enrico. Wilson had great numbers in his career against Pedro Martinez. So couple that with the fact that I was struggling joe started in Rica in both games that Pedro started so I was on the bench and obviously in game seven. You know it was. It was honestly. It was very difficult. It was a tough time because I was scuffling. I was brought in to you know. Be a part of this thing and and here. I find myself in game seven. You know even though Enrica had these numbers have been you know playing my game. You know I would've been in there so I was frustrated that I wasn't performing like I knew I was capable of wasn't swinging back great but but also you know you kind of temper that with hey this is game. Seven certainly isn't about me. This is about trying to get to the world series. You know right now so you try. You GotTa get over that you know just as a professional as soon as possible and this is about us so I was able to do that. You know fairly easy. You know dealing with the frustration of a struggling and all but so just trying to as best. I can to be prepared and to be ready. You know for any kind of situation at that point by career you know. I had never really come off the bench so as a different kind of role date but as best I could try and do you know as the game unfolded prepare myself for for some kind of a role or an opportunity. All right so I you when you saw your name was a lineup Kind were you upset where you matter. He just Kinda like well. That's that's the way it is. Yes I think I was probably all of those honestly buster I was. I was probably I know. Probably a little mad a little frustrated a little. You Know I. It's my fault. I'm not giving them a reason to take me out of the lineup But but again you gotta you gotTa Kinda get over that and and feel like I was. I was for the most part able to all right so David. Ortiz homers in their league goes to five to to What do you remember about the feeling in the dugout? At that? Point where you guys down only six hours away from the red sox winning the series with Yhombi hitting the two solo homers and then lose coming in and get out of a huge jam. Those were to see those were a couple of kind of performances in that game that really. Kinda campus in it and kept us with some hope and I remember I remember. Then the there were teas- home off a David Wells and how how Mad David was because David David was feeling the same thing you know. He's like hey we're back in this. I need to come in and hold it down and give us a chance and so he was pretty frustrated that Ortiz got him but but no it was still all right. We're in this. You know. This game have easily got away early in the reality is. We're up against it but but you know the five to deficit. Stranger things have certainly happened and And then and then rally begin. Were you surprised at Pedro came out for the eighth inning? And then after grady little went to the mound during that eighth-inning that he still stayed in the game yeah. I don't remember being surprised that he came out for the inning. But I do remember being a little surprised that he stayed in. 'cause I feel like there was that sense on our bench. Us GET TIRED and we're starting to get to them a little bit and So so I think we're a little surprised that he stayed in But also remember. That was the year You know I remember. It was a big deal. Where the red sox didn't bring a closer. They didn't have a true closer. They kind of just we'll guide. Yeah and they were So they didn't really have that you know the absolute guy that we hand the ball to in this situation. They had a lot of guys like embryo. Tim One that were really good. That we're more situational so I guess we're a little surprised because we felt like he was getting tired. But but I wouldn't say we were shocked by it because you know at the end. It's Pedro Martinez. Jorges facade Dumps in the game tying head. What do you remember about what you're feeling and seeing that moment? Whoa I remembered the roof. You know I guess the roof was already off that place but the roof fell like it came off that place like and I can just see Whore hey out there at second with that just that raw emotion of you know clutching his fists and pumping waving like. Oh my God and I just you know I can see her decky you know leaping as he comes across the plate and kind of an awkward weird way like like no way. We've come back and tied this thing but here we are and and then And then it was time promoted. Come on and do this thing. Yeah and what did you see him nine Tenth Eleventh Innings? I mean that red sox offense was so good and he came in and I just felt like was in complete control and I and I know in hindsight. They said he was done after that third inning of work and I don't believe that had we gone onto it to a twelfth thinning. I'm quite certain that Mariana would have been back out there. But I I just remember just Kinda really pretty easily going through those three innings against that great lineup and and actually those big for me because it got me a chance to get into the game. I pinch ran. For Ruben Sierra thinking around the don't even know what it was. You probably don't eighth or ninth or whatever ending up so it got me into the game which which I was you know which I was glad for is again having been an everyday player. You know this is a different role. Sorry remember going out and pinch running and it was such a weird feeling but but it was good that I'm all of a sudden in the gate and I got to play a few weddings on defense and I made a play and so I was in the flow of the game in a lot of ways by the time my at that came up so tim. Wakefield's in the game for the Red Sox Some hitters that. I've covered Darrell. Strawberry most notably loved to face knuckleball pitchers. What about you know? I didn't it was different and I hadn't you know had faced him a lot down the stretch in in in that postseason so Iraq up a lot of bats. The last couple of months of the season against them having not faced a lot of knuckleballer in my life I mean and and wake was in a really good group. I mean he was he was maybe on his way to win probably in the conversation when the MVP of that series and he came on he had good any and then so I had very little success against somebody always felt like maybe I could have success against them because sometimes you see the ball company and so well and then you just find yourself swinging through it so I remember running off the field at the end of the top of the eleven the end of most third inning and lead. I knew I was leading off the inning a new face in Wakefield no. I'm struggling at the plate but kind of had this honestly this good feeling that I was going to do something and you know something like love down. I walked down and grabbed my bat to go out on deck and Joe Torry Grozny's like hey stay through the middle doesn't mean you won't go deep. Just stay through the middle of the field meaning. Think back through the middle so. I'm like all right as I'm on deck. I'm thinking all right. I'm GonNa take a pitch. Just WanNa see a pitch and then we'll go from there leading off the inning and as I'm walking home plate I changed my mind and I I just. I'm just like you know you've been thinking too much right now. Just just get a good pitch to hit whatever one that is. I pitched seven pitch third pitch. Get a good pitch to hit. And that became my focus and First pitch a good pitch to hit and finally I finally squared gone up against them. I asked David freeze. Can you still see the pitch and your minds iron? No really no it. Yeah I mean I wish you know. There's so many so many memories or moments in your life right that you can. You can recall and picture and almost like you remember exactly that moment. But that's one of those moments. That's very very fuzzy for me. Very great you know I I. I've seen the clip. Obviously so many times. I've watched it so many times. I I like watching other people's reactions but it's one of those memories like I can talk through my run around the bases and what I was thinking and everything but the memory the photographic memory part of it for me is very very hazy. Wow and so do you remember Remember talking to Scott Brosius about his reaction When when he hit a home run in the ninety eight world series and he didn't know what he did until after he saw a replay of it and he was mortified like like watchers. 'cause you you know you put your hand in the air and then. I found interesting that you're going from second and third year. You're pulling off your batting loves now. So so what happened? There is which is another interesting thing that happened in that so I wore in two thousand and one I broke. I got hit with three pitches on the hands so I broke my wrist Miami and my thumb in three different instances during two thousand one. They cost me some of that season. So they made for me. This lightweight had that would velcro onto my batting glove that I wore from from the start of two thousand and two for the rest of my career so here we are in two thousand three and that Velcro never came off in my career. Except on that swing. So what I'm doing is re reattaching the Velcro to my batting glove as I'm running around the bases which which never happened before then and never happened after while you and Rivera the the replay shows you and Rivera shared a big hug. What do you see? What did you say to you remember? I don't know I don't. I don't remember much of anything that happened to me. I don't remember going into the clubhouse. It's honestly so hazy for me all the all the memories and things. I would think I would absolutely remember that. I don't one of my biggest memories of that night is at some point later in the evening sitting in my locker looking over at Mike Mussina. In as you know my is who. I love playing with great teammate. Dry Smart funny cutting serious all of it to see him the joy that was exuding him as he was sitting over with a with another with another With got a staff member just sitting there enjoying the moment was was one of the biggest memories I take from that night. And it's really cool Last one for you. Do you think that your manager the Yankees. If you don't have that moment and I know it's a difficult question to ask because it's such a path to becoming manager of the Yankees but in your heart what do you think. Yeah Man Maybe not maybe not. Maybe it's all in some small way baked into the cake that got me to the point of being manager the Yankees so maybe in some small way. It's part of it all so I'll say no interesting. All right Buni I appreciate you taking the time and they keep in touch with these stay safe all right. Thank thanks buster take care. We mentioned opening day moments. How about this one for mark? Burleigh opening day. Two thousand ten the broadcasters. You're going to hear hawk. Harrelson and Steve Stone is mark. Burleigh makes one of the greatest plays of all time deflected over. Play the goal to look at all year long. Take a look at this one again. I'm going to get really a chance to see if he's entirely healthy flips it between his legs to bare handed. Hermes out to take a look at Berlin Him Square. What an effort by Mark Birla Derek. Jeter nineteen ninety-six another rookie. Starting making his first start on opening day for the Yankees and the amazing thing about this was that during spring training. Jeeter looked so bad that there was concern within the Yankees Organization that they needed to trade for veteran shortstop they talked to the Seattle Mariners about trading for Felix for mean and the guy that they would have given up in that trade Mariano Rivera but jeeter on opening day showed he had the right stuff. GotTa run on that one. That's holy cow. Mike starting at insight vigil high the cream this big league home run and men that jumped out. I watch bell. He didn't even make a move for the Yankees. Do Nothing Nice Gone Derek. And of course Ken Griffey junior always added Knack for opening day moments in his first game back with the Seattle Mariners in two thousand nine. This is what he did deep to right field he's still got a bat a homerun. Ken griffey junior with a home. Run to make it a to nothing game where he's always had one of the sweetest swings his first home run this year is six hundred and twelve. Major League home run bleacher tweets already buster bleacher tweets for Thursday Corey at its palate. Buster excluding major league baseball trips abroad. Have you ever had a chance to catch any international pro games like N. P. B. Japan? If so what stood out to you about the experience? Is there anything you wish would carry over to our league and I will add here at the end? Where have you gone internationally to watch Major League Baseball Games any FAVORITE SPOTS? You'd WANNA highlight. Well I went to actually went to work on a story on One of the member of the mets back in Nineteen Winter Nineteen ninety-seven Edgardo Alfonzo. I went to Venezuela and man the energy level in the Ballpark for Winter League Games. You've heard stories about with a bang and drums in the you know the the loud crowds in the music in all kinds of stuff going on so there's so much energy and I do wish that you could see that type of energy on a regular basis in big league games. I would love to see a game. Japan I want. My daughter is taking Japanese last six years. We went to Tokyo a couple years ago but that was in December when there was no game going on at one. We were in Hiroshima I actually went into a store my my daughter and I found a aroma baseball cap at exactly the same moment we saw it and I'm like sorry that one's mind. Hey you're you'RE MR BASEBALL IN THE HOUSEHOLD. I mean you've got to pull rank there with the with the DADS status and everything so Yup Yup two more here from sansier at sands ear Manfred. He went on sportscenter last night. In basically Knicks. The hundred sixty two games for the season but obviously a lot of things on the table so I guess the first part of this question if I could still it a little bit. Like what is your your thought on the ideal scenario for the season if it's got to be shortened if we gotta do double headers what do you think about that could diminish the game and then the second part could we see a Kawai Leonard type load management situation where players wouldn't play in all the games if they're playing. They're playing eight games a week. Could they sit out for their own? Future sends your. He'd like season and not force. These games on these players. What do you think yeah? And I think that's where we're GONNA wind up. Look I think all the talk now about the doubleheaders is trying to figure out a way to extend the season and get more games in I thinking and just talking with people within baseball. I think they would be surprised if the season starts before July. Just looking world events so if we get to a point where the seasons. GonNa Be Ninety Games or sixty games or one hundred games then. There's not going to be this big push to try to get to one hundred and sixty two games. It's all going to be about trying to create the best possible product and look major league. Baseball is going to want to create a product for fans. But they're also GONNA WANNA try to create something that's going to generate the most business for them I would agree that I think eventually that the talk about the doubleheaders will go away. Once players realize not going to get close to one hundred sixty two very interesting. Amin a key. Imagine a sixty game regular season. I mean that would be so intense. I mean it's it's dark times right now but things like that. You don't get me kind of excited and hopeful for the future. And that's it for today. Thanks to Aaron. Boone and Taylor shrank. Thanks for listening. Everybody have a great day and stay safe for listening to baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN DOT com slash. Podcast center. Baseball tonight the PODCAST.

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"Them. But what I read going through the documentary, there's actually the designers that made the game that piece queen nothing about hockey. To make video games and in this the fans. So there's kind of like three areas that you kind of have to tackle the finger on why the game lasted this long. What was your move because like for me, I would take the puck behind them that. OP around in a circle and then go near post, and then I would light the lamp that was kind of my signature move on that game. How about you? Yeah, it's Kinda would wait everyone's called the garbage school you know? The goalie. and. You'll forcing them one way and then going extreme other side and that's that is like this move everyone goes to I just love doing the D.C it because when you're actually playing with the real human being not computer, you can actually start learning with manual golden again, NHL always the first you're you actually had manual going you can get away from people scoring the garbage goal. So doing an actual and and and scoring or a good one timer I don't know what it is that even almost thirty years later it's still satisfying and it's just weird I know it sounds weird to people listening that probably don't know what h how many for is or even the second genesis but. Just just try because it's very big game. Now it's fantastic. We're speaking with Mikey McBride, director pixelated heroes. The. Whole thing with Ron. Barr from sports byline in the early days of EA, which is right out here and bay area and foster city, and they wanted a guy who is on. National Radio and they got ron to do that and some other games as well. So for a lot of people, they only know Ron bar through these video games and so what was it like Iran involved in us? So bent seems very, very cool. Now on bar to me was just pixeleted ahead in the video game and play the say CD version there's actually actually talk so. I had the second CD version in the regular cartridge aversa to, but I looked to sixty merging because I've had. The data music but actually taught. So I never really knew there was a real person could be just the character. So I've heard his voice for hours and hours as he describes in the game, you know the lineup, the players lineup, who's hawks, and it's called and all that fun stuff and to the first time that actually got run on the phone that to me was very cool experience because actually hear his voice is so iconic in such a way that you know people that it's. Quite. Well, but up here in northern Canada. CDC Really. So he was. Very cool to see that there was this iconic game that was a real person that with interact with me that was a very cool thing and one of my favorite moments making documentary. But I think about. Laying on the any US at eight bit blades of steel blades of steel. That was the first game even though it had fictitious teams and I think it was a three on three. You had fights. To me, that was the first hockey game that I got addicted to and I didn't think it could get any better until we got sixteen bit with Sega. On the Genesis and then electric arts stepped in and then it just took it to a whole new level. If you look at the NHL game now from EA, it is a fantastic game, but it also feels like you're watching on TV in a way. Is it more fun than nostalgic sixteen bit way then to kind of feel like you're manipulating a TV game now? It's a very good question and of course, there's two different camps. There's people like me their late thirties, early forties just stuff in the past he very honest with you. So you kind of have its nostalgic factor. The muttering games are absolutely amazing. They would be indistinguishable from real life. If you showed somebody he's would say this real-life, right. So now going back, I it's A. Simpler time to me. So are like Kinda like golf you just you can just jump into it played for a little while and you know get adequate it where the mo-modern modern games really have to learn what the heck's going on because there's so you know with complexity than just a whole whack load, two buttons and combinations where you on the say there was there's three buttons. To pass and shoot, and so anyone can pick it up the Jerry the game. That was the best part. Is Thinking like as hard as it is to get a film made, how difficult was it just to get? The. The sort of cover art for your film of the Little Pixellated Guy Wear on the ninety four shirt at center ice to just to get that made. There's actually a really good game days geeky dictating thin geeky hockey I think his things and he basically just. A creative designer that makes hockey based things and kind of really cool stuff and so I, reached out the indigent that for me and that that was. Cool piece art. And I think to the feedback you get because the Modern Day player. Now, they're not to ultra this. You're not talking to Bobby Orr everybody who is in the NHL. Laid this game. So what does what does that like when you get feedback from actual players? Which is Kinda funny because In the film I go find your younger because at the time of filming was still playing in the NHL. He's the last one playing from the NHL Metaphor era so. It is actually too old now that even have to admit that the players now that are in the NHL. NHL Many for is already too old for them the playing the playstation versions of the late nineties so it's Kinda. Ninety four is actually too old for the current players. Does it hold up because a lot of times I've been nostalgic for my video games from the late eighties nineties, and I'll go back and I'll think you know pitfall wasn't as fun as I thought but some games hold up for you. How much does this game still hold up? Ten at A. You Know Mum, you know some games like you know legend of Zelda on super, Nintendo I gain no matter what your you played. It still can check NHL Ninety, four still. So these Games are what they're what? They're trying to do now like mobile, Games is the new the new frontier and it's basically symbolized kerchief games that you can pick up and play and the sixteen era was the master. That's when those games are absolutely mainstream. So you look at a game like grand theft auto. MULTI HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR GAME TAKES TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE Can tell many four was built a barn mark lesser by himself, and it basically has the same the hill as a modern AAA title beat. That is the creepiest thing how simple the best games were back then and that's something you'll never get that. I had no idea last question for you did a embrace the project did they ignore you? Where were they with all this? I know sometimes he gets a bad rap but sports especially in Burnaby being absolutely amazing the. Documentary they really support it. I go visit their studios and see what's going on. They have a really big connection to the past again, proof in the pudding they're making any money the latest version. So yeah, they being amazing. But the the funny thing was actually had a long lost cousin that is working under modern games that I didn't know there was kind of my thought door. So that's always documentary. She check it out that it's very fun and it's you. Accelerated Heroes on you to if you love hockey if you love videogames, check it out. If you've never played it, it was a fantastic game and you get a real feel for it. We've been speaking with the Creator Mikey Mick Brian. Mike thanks for your time and really good stuff in Hopefully, we can talk hockey again down the road. Awesome thanks say hydro on for me. Definitely well, I'm sure he's listening. They, get quick break and we'll come back on the sports. Okay. I just need you to listen to me I. Know that a lot of times mom it might not seem like I'm listening to you but I am I hear you. In which you save really doesn't matter to me I mean, let's be honest. No Kid likes rules but I get why we have them I hear you and I know it's because you care all the toxic fat over the years including what you've told me about not using alcohol and other drugs they stick with me and believe it or not. They really do make a difference especially at times that matter mumps. Drink no thanks I'm good. 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I'm starting at the astro the going to be. You know saying the proper goodbye to. Now only das tonight but relevancy as far as Major League baseball concern even though. They may twenty, nine, thirty, one this year. They made their way into the off. On a tear. BEATING UP, MINNESOTA. Beating up Oakland. But in the half this theory. Down to avoiding to sweep or keeping playing. I not know how to feel do. Well, listen Is it. Irk You. America is rooting against the Astros or you couldn't care less about. You know hurt. The Norman you know saying. Oh. You know on your team please global. Or anything like that but to me. The NISEI and Asia. Nah I don't care. How many have really don't. We. Houston Astro. L. Fans a hockey. Team don't really care about what the haters gotta say because we. Feel, for, teams. Regardless of how they perform. Plus they say haters going to hate. Yep. But Hey. Don't try anything other than attention Plus are not haters there. Eaters. Yup Yup exactly. Exactly. So. That's all seasons due in tonight. saw the same thing it'll be for. Their future because I think I like a few players on that squad. I duNNo. George brinker Michael Bradley. They're all looking for free agency down looking for new home. I mean how do you think that'll be the astros can't pull it off tonight Well. I don't that's a great question and a lot of people say that No once these guys get their rings. That they might be looking i. mean who would have thought that the? the mookie bats wouldn't be on the. And he got traded but I mean just think about these guys and where they're gonNA go and look there's some. Easy calls out there for guys who are going to get paid rail move does going to get paid the Ajay Lemay. Paid Trevor Bauer. Going to get paid and George Springer. Is going to get paid and so is Michael Brantley I mean, I just. It's going to be with all the stain that has gone on there and plus people like to get a new address anyway member. Pablo. Sandoval in San. Francisco. He was beloved beloved and he got three rings. He was a big part of the last two of them actually caught the last out of the world series. He was MVP of the world series before that. You went to Boston. He went to Boston for the same money just because he wanted to switch things up so I think even if it wasn't. Also get a little wing with but. That's a good question. I don't know if they mailed him. I don't know if they mailed him a ring or not. That's a good question but listen they're there. I would think that these guys would lean towards it now too big age. Guys call it big AIDS because I know Dallas is big D. No we don't. We. Don't call it the big age as much as we call it h town. H town very go. But Oh town was a boy. Oh Yeah representing Orlando I remember that but still. Bradley and Brinker duly tonight, I, hope they realize. Houston will still love them regardless. Even if it means. Astro Fan Hey. What did you think? When after the final pitch of the playoffs last year when the Astros got knocked out that Garrett Cole was wearing a Boris Corp Hat and he said I'm no longer a member of the Astros even though he was still wearing the stirrups. Be Honest. I care more the the Astros lost the World Series and seven game. Garrett Cole feeling his face. That just proves to me like look like what the jets about Libyan. Bell last night no one man bigger than the teen. Period. That's exactly what happened with that Garrett Cole situation. I did not care. Let's I couldn't care less about that situation. I'm glad you said you couldn't care less because some people say I could care less which means that they still care a little bit. Is. I just didn't care about Garrett Cole need and. I mean he was extendable for the moment he. showed his true colors expendable. Well, I mean listen. I mean listen you say well, if we had Garrett Cole now you'd need Noun to one instead of three Oh. So Maybe. You're right but. Cole and Ver- Lander and you still got this far. You know. Lander and. Burland of an Alvarez were injured. On Alvarez Basically the Astros. I forgot about him rookie of the year. What do you think about keeping dusty? Hey it worked this year. In a fifty game season. Hopefully, they keep them around to see what he can do it on one hundred and sixty, two game season. I hope we get one hundred and sixty, two game season. Vaccine by now. And, they'll hopefully vaccine by. Debbie. But I'm not sure what the USA Radio News not basically saying Oh okay. All in all and. You know. You can skip that at the top of the hour. I know that's what I always have been doing for the decade listening to the network. But. I appreciate your. I got around Matt I appreciate your support, and as always man you know luck with your astros even though. Deep Down I'm not rooting for him, but you understand why? They understood they're going to need it. But again, thanks for having Neon is always and I will talk to you on social media until then at rake, Tim. Thank you very much for the call Christian and the lines are available one, eight, hundred, Eighty, seven, eight play. Area John Bishop is going to join us in the next segment. He's been on the show before. It I can't remember time really I. Mean It's one thing that the whole world hates the Patriots and they're cheaters. But in baseball. Remember too many examples outside of just oh, we don't want to see the Yankees want again but like everyone hates yesterday. All right on that happy. Now, we'll take a quick break come back sports file. Certain. Vaccines are needed throughout infancy adolescence and adulthood. That's why it's important to follow a trusted vaccination. 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Says not something that you do in theory. These are tangible lessons that you've learned yourself avenue. Yes. Absolutely. Like not only learned on myself but there's Not a single item in that book that I don't love by. What would be the one thing that you would say and by the way when I say wise as it's actually wise as F you. Know, the rest and the other book was on. Yourself do you ever get a little bit of pushback from publishers saying can't we call it something else? Yeah Yeah I mean I self published my first book. And everybody told me not to do. This was in two thousand and sixty minutes just weren't many books like that seems like there's a lot of books like that now but. Anyway then there was nothing and. What he told me down but You know I've always seen of the view that if it's not going to be authentically need them what's the point Dylan it so you get what you get. The one thing about this book too, and I start to look at some of the discussions. You have good wisdom versus bad wisdom and some people will say, well, what's bad wisdom and I immediately thought of the example that I always thought was bad wisdom and that's when you hear in movies. If you're dumb enough to pull a gun, you better be smart enough to use it and I always thought if you're dumb enough to pull a gun, you might be smart enough to put away and not shoot somebody with an example of bad wisdom. Yet and the tons of that by the way the tons La just. With the slightest bit of examination doesn't stand up to any kind of scrutiny. and. Yet people live by this stuff you know like they. Heard somebody else say it's a common saying you know one that always Kinda. Gets me going everything happens for a reason knowledge. Sometimes. I OUGHTA universe. Brutal brutal, and what's one of we say, Scotland, quite a bit is what's for you won't go past you. Yes, it will. Totally go pass shifts. I like the t shirt born in Scotland Diane Scotland. Okay. Sounds like a plan I. think that might be I think that might be. I think that might be true I think they've gone out. To states for twenty five years. I think that be an element of truth NAP. So as a Glaswegian. What side of the old firm or you on I? Know it gets sectarian but were you parkhead or Ibox? PODCAST. So on a couple of miles away so I was naturally drawn to that Pantheon of sporting excellence. The super hoops. That's right. Can't beat it. When I just think it's great that you you're from Scotland. You come to America and you start writing these books like stop doing that s on f yourself do the work. Who Said you publish your first book by herself and then what people are like? Oh, we. Sort of I guess people who do movies or stand up comedy on Youtube people get eyeballs on them and they say, okay well, you're actually now start paying you. Kinda work. Yeah I mean I Sold thirty thousand. Copies of my. First Book Myself. With no budget I might add. You know I just I I was way faster than the message. And that's how it's continued for me. I'M A passionate. But making the difference and making the dollars you know because I was passionate about making a difference. Before I made the dollars an dot passion still fires me up. So after it sold thirty thousand copies on your own. There's no shortage of people who are interested in getting. An interesting to and your books get translated into different languages and you pick up a copy of day hot day Ching Gardai. That's funny. Right. Right, I mean you know the every foreign publisher send you a copy actually they send you sex copies. Which means of got like I mean I'm not kidding hundreds of copies of my books in. which is that I, don't really not what? I like Smith Elodie, Martel et. And you're like, well, I i. hope that's a direct translation. Do you check? It's not that's actually not. So dot one dot one stop punching yourself in the tactical actually what that means. Gary John Bishop. New Book Weise's as. You Would respond playing devil's advocate here. It's like you know the wisdom within the wisdom of that. And it's like well, you know, why are you so wise are you sitting there in this narcissistic bubble of Hubris right now? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I've. An, and I really feel that this is probably the most critical thing of of real. You have to discover it for yourself. You can't. Somebody can't tell you was them. So, what have endeavoured to do in this book is cannot present you with something invited Divan for yourself and and see it. And that discovery of a for you as water bring it to life for year with otherwise it's just a bunch bumper bumperstickers. So, and by the way, it's not like I'm just showing up in an an vacuum of time with all of this. I mean this is stuff of. Learn. Myself. I've been have been coached and myself read about myself of you know it's While everybody's doing their life, my life is answering questions like what's the difference between knowledge and wisdom and how can I get some? So I've been engrossed in the subject for a long time. and really walk like I said what I've endeavored to do. Is to put people in a place where they can authentically themselves investigate something discover something. that really empower them not no wait I want to empower them in a way that they empower themselves. I remember hearing Billy Connolly say that you know an offshore oil rig in Scotland they're saying you must wear your safety sued if you go onto the water, you'll die of hypothermia you must keep your safety Sudan and he said meanwhile a hundred yards away on the shores dad's going get in the water you little get. It's the hardest. Very that's hard scrabble. There isn't it? Well those no I. Guess That's part of. My approach. And you know because I have a tremendous amount of compassion for people in order to love for people. And hero tolerance. For. Their. Crap. And and and that's Kinda like necessarily what how I'd like people can start take themselves on. You know like compassion for myself and compassion for other people. But I'm I'm not doing the trap. and so it's it's definitely being. Definitely helped me I. Want to cut through a lot of things. Given the cultural. Specter if you like. That I. Do. I, sometimes, I think that that British bulldog mustn't grumble spirit is what we need because we we've gotten so soft to the point now, if you hear people like on I, ride public. The public trains and our people talk about the mad stress in their life, which is. Emails or they're going to be late I mean they don't they're not worried with the next meal's coming from they're not worried about where they're going to sleep at night. It's just our perspective on what is stressful. Now I think is blown out of proportion. You know there's those part that I talk about in this talk and say. You know no matter whatever whatever thing what up to is is a group of people. That always brings its own set of problems. And for the last you know five, six, seven hundred years. We've been really pursuing this pathway of freedom personal freedom. and it's and it's and rightly. So I rightly so. But included in that is. Ever increasing, internalizing constantly looking N. To see how we're doing. and. When it's not good new. It's become more and more ordinary. To look around you to see explain. How you're doing internally. And I the part of this book but I talk about that we're losing. Power to influence the life that's going on around because we're making it so much about. Ourselves. Personally. And if he gave some time to but what if I could influence life? What if I could bring something a life? What if I walked in a room and not? Because I'm there and in a way that impacts it and makes a difference. was that was what my life is about and. I think it's important that we started create a nice balance sort of south of. Acknowledging. How we feel and acknowledging emotional state and all that stuff. Because that stuff it's important. But I think we got to pull it back. Bet We got it. We got a little less indulgent of that at certain times in our life and stop to look at. What different time I making and I think he'd be asked. that. Question like like really me a truth with different to you make it in this world. You get a lot of disappointing. Last question for you. Personal level are the bishops. Clan or do you get your Tartan from your mother's side? So you get. So my family came over from. Ireland in seventeen fifty one. Five brothers and they all went and the mining communities of the. Of the Canal Metal Pot Scotland, the central belt. And so we have. A originally IDA. But that whole nine. Can Go. It's a very much Scottish ID thing with a little bit of English stone although thankfully I don't have anything going on genetically. Thankful for small mercies. So they were down the pits. Yeah. Yeah. A hobby bunch the best shots you and I was like many many people's families. It's amazing when you see what your family's Patio West for you to complain on the subway. Now, there's no doubt. I. Have to look back maybe one generation to find that type of hard graft we have been speaking with. Gary John. Bishop fantastic author personal development expert make sure to pick up his new book wise as F- Thanks for coming on man appreciate it. Let's catch up on your next one. Yeah for sure. Thanks for having me. I no doubt. I'm Rick Tuttle. We'll take a quick break come on back on sports violence. Have you written a book you can become a published author with door and publishing the nation's. 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It's our pleasure to welcome back to the show, our friend Dana Gould one of the best stand up comedians going, and he's been doing it for many many years and he's been very generous to me over the years coming in studio and also introducing me to. People like Bob Odenkirk and Jeffrey combs and others he's He's one of my favorites. He's here to talk about sketch fast which unfortunately, of course has be virtually everything else but they have a really. Cool thing coming up on Thursday October twenty ninth at six PM Pacific. It is plan nine from space and it's going to be redone with a lot of great actors, lot of comedic actors and Dana and welcome to the show again and you know plan nine is sort of that category of it's so bad it's good and so for the kids today's guest Tommy Weasel and the room. Would be an example of that. But knowing you like I do being an Ed Wood San. You probably don't think it's that bad do you Judge Barrett. I can't at this time commit to any any real opinion. On anything at this point. you know the High Risk, Hawaii Buddy. Good No. It's. In terms of the rules of filmmaking, it's As As I like to call it up cocky of. Errors. But but in terms of like the car the what's the worst Santa Film can commit. It's boring well, then it's not the worst film I'm planning nine not only is never boring. It's completely entertaining. All the way to it's not like a bad movie like. Here's a big big budget bad movie showgirls. You know it's. It's very entertaining in how bad it is. For a while. And then it's just more of the same. Plan nine finds ways to be terrible. In different. Ways. Ultimately end of the movie, it could never let up. And You know I've I've always. Loved it from when I. First discovered it back in the eighties because it was. Perfect distillation of all of the stuff that I liked it's like it's a cheesy black and white horror movie. That's also hilarious but it's hilarious and an unintentional. Very, you know right away like not to get too inside baseball, but I discovered this in the mid eighties. The peak of late night with. David. Letterman. When we all had that sense of humor. You know they're Kinda. smirke yeah. and so it was just perfect and You know I was. So and and what I found. Was The doing the script. Live which you've been doing for a long time we've tried to do it with other movies and we can never find one that works. Because there's just something about the script for plan nine. you know you get funny people to read it straight as a heart attack and it's funny all the way through and that's and that's what we do i. mean this show has Bob Odenkirk Tim Meadows Janet Varney, Laraine Newman David Keck ner Maria Bamford So myself other people baron Vaughn and. No one's trying to be funny. We all read it straight as a heart attack. and. It It's hilarious. So you're telling me that Bob cat reads it straight. Well. Yeah. He plays the character of Celtic cop and he basically plays it. As you know, he doesn't he doesn't play. It is nineteen eighty six Bob Cat. Two Thousand Nineteen. The, affected. Seeing. It's it's wonderful to see Bob playing that top again. Ed Wood. has a tattoo of Ed Wood on his arm. I mean, that's how committed fanny. That's what I'd like you to tell people who are maybe who aren't familiar and because this movie he wrote it he directed he produced it. He even edited it and I know he was a former actor himself. What what is it about at that draws you in. Famously the worst director all time but again, all of his movies are wonderfully enough he made. He made a lot of he may he you know he got movies made which is impressive. and. He was guy around. Hollywood. In the in the in the early fifties. And the. The first big movie he made was called Glen or Glenda, and it was originally going to be about Christine Jorgensen a US Servicemember GI in World War. Two who had one of the first gender transition surgeries and the fifties and they wanted to make A. You Know A. Movie about it in very exploitive way. and. That would somehow got the job of writing and directing it. Now, and we'll was a transvestite. He liked to walk around and pink Angora sweaters. And drag a lot he was straight and. You know not didn't transition his gender totally straight straight guy that loved dressing up like a lady and drinking. And So he wrote this movie glen or Glenda, which came out in nineteen, fifty four. It's It's hard to describe it as a movie a different movie every ten minutes like there are people talking about transvestites then their shots buffalo running then. It's It's a completely schizophrenic movie. But it is hard. It's interesting for movie made in Nineteen, Fifty four the message of the movie is yeah. Some guys like to dress in drag live alone. Really impressive. FBI But it's Exactly, when he died, he left some big comes to fill But you know it's It in terms of its message, it's very ahead of its time in terms of a movie it plays like a fever dream I mean it's it's all over the map. And then he had a movie called bride of the Monster He befriended Bela Lugosi towards the very end of his life and went Bella was was down on his luck and. Was Addicted to morphine. and You know didn't look so great but he acted and that's movies and then the most famous movie they made they made a movie bride of the monster, which is kind of a standard be movie or D. Movie. and then they may plan nine from outer space. The. Trick is bill go he's. From outer space, but he died before they started shooting. He ed just took some random footage of them and then Cut It into plan nine, and then to fill in all the scenes that wasn't around for. He put his girlfriend's chiropractor a guy named. Dr, Tom Mason, he had him cover up his face with the Cape and he plays Pella and more than half the movie. You know I. It's just it's randomly. To really appreciate that story there's a there's a brilliant biography of by Tim Burton that starts Johnny Depp and it's called Ed Wood and I came nineteen ninety-four it's and it's one of my favorite movies. It's a beautiful movie. It's a it's a great story and plan nine was really adds. Hard, to say masterpiece because it's Such a trainwreck but but but that was the one that. Put them in the back not at the time at the time it didn't do anything. But in the eighties there was a book published cult Golden Turkey Awards, and it was just like he's the worst films of all time. These movies are terrible. Like robot monster, the Oscar, and he's terrible movies and it was voted number one and so it got sort of like A. Cult following. you know a lot of punk rock bands paid a lot of, oh manages the plan nine, the ramones and things like that, and and that's and that's when I discovered it and got into it and it is the gift that keeps on giving in terms of in terms of I would be hard pressed to point to a movie. That's that's more entertaining for the wrong reasons as consistently. Method. Time Interested in this film? Before we let you go and I'm GonNa put you on the spot little bit. But I remember four years ago you were in Studio Urinetown. Basically the day after or two days after trump got elected. Only soundless. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm very onstage you like how everybody's Wednesday or whatever you? People Laugh for twenty five minutes. But the question is that the you're very Bright Guy and you're someone who I would love to hear your opinion before you go about because I've heard that it's basically a done deal. He already has half the registered voters. It's too late for Biden and then people will look at Paul and say, Oh, trump has no chance where what do you think is going to happen I, absolutely think it's a done deal I you know. In these days, you have to listen to you know it's hard to get any objective media. The you the and I'm friends with a lot of never trump republicans like I'm I'm a lot of Republicans that are never trumpers it. It seems right now it's it's Biden's to lose. because he has an added anybody who is coalition, he's lost people from his coalition. And there are there are just the numbers have moved in a lot of these states. If he you know he's down in he's. Years they had eight eighty million dollars and they blew it. And now they're pulling ads out of Ohio 'cause they're out of money. This is the trump campaign. You know so. You know the first time he wanted two thousand, sixteen need. You know my my friend Mike Murphy would say it was a Republican strategist. He's a black swan candidate and drew in inside straight and the odds of him doing that twice in order not impossible. But they're unlikely I think Democrats are and people that don't like trump are spooked because it's sort of like the Rasputin thing it's like we tried to poison him and he lived he's immune to poison. Enough poison. To poison him but You know it remains to be seen. I I. DO think it's interesting that I remember that four years ago people go on like. You know it's horrifying but maybe he'll grow into the job. We don't know how it's GonNa be let's research judgment and can you imagine some as well? Here's what it's GonNa be like. Two hundred thousand Americans dead from. No it was bad. As he stuff listen I really miss having you know comedians and really miss having you. But as I said, we're all hunkered down here during this quarantine and a good thing for people to do is Thursday October twenty, nine, six PM Pacific and tickets are available at SF sketch fast checkout plan nine from outer space and it'll be acted by some many great stars as Dana Gould was just mentioning Danny congratulations on getting this together and getting all these great people involved in look forward to having in when this all over. I really I. I. I know I gotta go but like we were watching a movie, the other night and people flying on an airplane and it was like seeing people in stagecoach say, Oh, remember that you just get on a plane and go to a different city. So. I. Really. Love to come Francisco. replied great stuff. Thanks amount of toxin, right. Thank you. I'm Rick Tidwell take a quick break come on back on sports pilot. 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Coming up in the next segment, we'll have Jeff Dunkin who's written a book about. Peyton and breeze the head coach and quarterback of the saints that took them to very. Great. Heights in a super bowl championship. As well. We talked about managerial or. In baseball and which one would be the best so far between the two saxes. and. Detroit. Well, there's a report today from Bob Nightingale. Of USA Today. On the show many times FM side when I was there and also all Gonzales waste have my as pregame show all the time when he was angels beat writer. He's with the ESPN now they are reporting. That's Tony Larussa. Is going to interview for the White Sox job. Now what's dusty? He's seventy I think. I. Think about David Johnson I think about guys who've been up there sparky Anderson sparky Anderson look like old man at fifty. He literally did he had cracked face wrinkles and a shock of gray hair when he was fifty. You can't help it. He just looked how old. But LARUSSA is seventy six years old now here's the thing. He was already the white sox manager. Fire by Hawk Harrelson in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, six. Eighty six. Years ago though let's see thirty four years. The RUSSA is seventy, six years old. He has not managed for nine years. Although he did manage the All Star game. He came back and won the cardinals the next year in two thousand twelve. But look the guy is in the hall of fame. and. He has a winning percentage of about fifty four percent he. Won Six pennants, he won three world series championships he can be credited for. Revolutionary. The the modern bullpen in regards to closer like he did with act or the modern left specialists as he did with honey spore. Resolve so reportedly had his own science stealing mechanism which he proved ahead of time in regards because it was not electronic. but. There's no question, his storied career but why would they bring in a guy that hasn't managed and nine years? Especially, the way the bullpens go now the Russa. And give a hook after one lefthanded batter. He's gotTa go three. Out doesn't mean it's too dumb to adapt to it I'm not saying that. And you get into relationships meaningful with guys who are fifty years younger than him more than fifty years. I Know Baker by the way seventy one. And but he had managed in two thousand seventeen. I dare to say not just baseball professional sports. has there ever been a head coach manager? What have you a Helmsman gaffer. Who? Ran An organization between the lines. With a thirty four year gap. And there there's no way. There's no way. Maybe you can point somebody out to me but I just. I don't see. There's any way possible. That can happen. Now, if you look around and you say old boy network, well, this'll be old man network obviously. and. They get a worse guy if I'm a white sox fan what I'd rather have him or renteria. That's a good question. That's That's actually a really good question. because. Larissa's I said the guys in the hall of fame. He's not a doddering old man. He just worked this season for the angels. Or angels didn't do Jack. But like I can. Maybe, it's a thing where it's like you know we never should have fired you in the first place that was sort of the thing with. Hawk Harrelson Right. That I had Hawk Harrelson on the show and that was one of the big mistakes that. He made and. I was thinking about one of the Russo is basically the manager of the white. SOx The whole time I was in high school and college, and it was like seventy nine to eighty six almost all the time. But. I mean what? What does the manager have to do? It. Cox and other that you are spikes every day he was a manager. Spikes Click Click Click Click. You say he was too old for that. Well, he got it done twenty Larussa if he just has to. Stand there and manage. that. You don't even need to stand there do it virtually. Want to get too far ahead of myself. Why not? If he's healthy just because you're seventy six doesn't mean that you're drooling in your you've got a Walker and you're messing your pants here incontinent no, he is incontinent. He's in the North American continent right? So. Look. Successes I mean, if you say, can he take this team that's ready to go and take it to the next level usually they think the younger guy has to do that. But this also shows you that maybe there aren't great young back. There I thought that were I mean where did they get Kevin Cash? Where did they get Jay Tingler and where did they get these guys from? It get them from. Bench coaches and quality control coaches and minor league managers. That's where they get them. Maybe. It's just we're sorry we fired you in the first place. I'm thirty five years ago. Why don't you just come back and? See what you like. Are we still wearing Bermuda shorts? No I we still wearing those why Front hat. 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We're happy to have the author with US Jeff Duncan. This book is from triumph books by the way. And it's easy to look back now jeff and just Kinda think oh? Yeah. Great goats great quarterback. But at the time Peyton had never been a head coach that first year you had Hurricane Katrina getting to the point where they almost tore down the superdome. And then drew brees was cast aside because not only did he have a horrible knee injury but the chargers had Philip rivers. So in the beginning it looked like it'd be the same old aints right The Great Point Rick I think we all forget. Just how? serendipitous. The union was between breathing Payton in New Orleans, and the confluence of events that it took. To get those factors altogether and just how far the organization that's come in this fifteen years. Simpson The fact that Sean Payton actually was seeking the Green Bay packers job that ultimately went to Mike McCarthy, and he became a bridesmaid for the packers job and settled on the saints position and the same thing sort of happened with drew brees who was on the free agent market and really looked to be headed to Miami at the time Nick Sabin was the head coach there they were coming off an eight eight season. Of course, a very attractive location WAS NOT COMING OFF OF A. National disasters the way New Orleans was. So there was a lot of things working on the dolphins favors well to get drew brees but you have to really credit Mickey loomis and Sean Payton for having intuition. To go hard after breeze and outbid the dolphins at the time and and to have the confidence that drew brees would recover from a shoulder injury and i. think that was an early sign to Sean Payton's extraordinary ability that coach to recruit breathe here, and they have the confidence to go ahead with Nick Saving, win that recruiting battle. I think about the saints fans and I mentioned the aints where they would wear the bags over their heads and. You know there was a couple times where it looked like maybe archie manning would break through and then they try to elderly Ken. Stabler. Then they had some fun with. Ali A bear but. The mentality of that team I mean you can set your watch by it. There is no way that the saints wherever GonNa win the Super Bowl and it was just out of the question. Yeah I think the history the sorted history of the organization before Breathing Peyton God here. four decades of futility for the most part only one playoff victory and those four decades of before two, thousand, six and really Just, incredibly unimpressive roster of quarterbacks at the Games most important position. The saint had one pro bowler in those four decades at quarterback and that was archie manning for one year So the I think that's what's lost sometimes in this Peyton brief story is just how far they have taken the organization how they changed the culture change the perception of the organization This was not the Green Bay packers that they were coming into or the you know the Dallas Cowboys. This was one of the worst organizations in the NFL and it was a market that had been devastated by a natural disaster. that. It hurt the off field product that you know the ability to attract resources. So this is almost a startup organization when breeze pagan came in and to where they brought it to over this decade and half is pretty remarkable story. And you know is the subtitle, the men who built the greatest offense NFL history, the whole concept, which I had never heard before of blitzing. On offense and it's like well, you can't do that and it's like, yeah, we will. We're going to run downhill. We're GONNA pass downhill. We're going to blitz the defense I mean to me that right there I'm already on board with that idea. Yeah that's Sean Payton term and. What he means by that is he wants the defense on their heels, and if you watch the saints play they do that in a number of ways. Letting the defense say use multiple personnel, packages, they bring them these players in. On the field on and off the field very quickly try to create mismatches, try to create confusion they do it at a high tempo and a high pace, and they're trying to 'cause the defense to make a mistake or frankly, and they have a quarterback that's the field general the ultimate field general who Johnston and you know drew brees a supercomputer attic and process chaos, and effectively operate in that environment I'm not sure they would do that with any quarterback in the system, but with brees whose extraordinary mental capacity allows them to operate almost like a fight or palate under pressure that works perfectly and the huge advantage for the saints offense. More questions for author, Jeff. Duncan the new book. Peyton and brees. How much? Does much credit the the Benson family with Mr Benson, and now zoff Kale I mean I it seemed like in the old days. In the NFC west as that if they could beat. L. Montana or Steve Young that Mr Benson would do the Benson Bougie and say who dad and that was basically they're super bowl here. So how is he able to turn this franchise around? Of just hiring the right people and hidden gold there. Well, I. Ownership under Thomson now, Gale Benson one of the strengths. Of. That you know management philosophy or ownership philosophy I should say is that they don't metal they hire people like you said. Put Mickey Loomis in place by the Mickey loomis was elevated General Manager. In two thousand to a few people outside the the newly was maybe in Seattle where he'd worked in the seahawks organization but I think. That was a very shrewd move at the time and you know that's the most important position in the building and Tom Benson recognize talent, their organizational talent and Mickey. Is a perfect match. With. Sean Payton. There almost a Yin and Yang personality while Peyton is very impulsive, aggressive, confident loomis, little more understated kind of even Keel and I'm not sure that that's stability and that stability has been key in the front office I had a a point other day about the Falcons after moving on from. From Dan Quinn, they've now getting ready to hire their head coach. there I, think their general manager in the same period of time at the same tobacco. Same. Romantic. Or same coach same quarterback over a fifteen year run here. It's a remarkable and very rare in NFL circles. Don't even ask me about my raiders we've been through about eight and that time The. Listen they they did not invent the two minute drill eight, nine breeze but. What do they do differently in that two minute drill that makes it so effective for them. Well they allow breeze to call all the plays himself at the line of scrimmage they use hand signals. A lot of teams use these same hand signals. to call the plays because it saves time obviously but they do so much work on it rick round the clock during during the season preseason off-season putting themselves in different situations and practice. So they are prepared not just You know not just drew brees and Sean pay but also the entire offense to operate. effectively in that period of time because they know so many games or one in loss with those kind of scores before the half or at the end of the game, we saw the saints a Monday night. I'll give you a good example. They were down twenty three in that game look lifeless in the first half. But Payton used his timeouts when the chargers have the ball uses them on defense to get the ball back to breeze with about a minute sixty nine of before halftime he had no timeouts believe and they get a touchdown right before halftime closed at margin to twenty ten and it gave him some momentum going into that second half and they ended up winning that game and I don't think they win that game without that two minute drill right before halftime and breeze five or. They all the right color himself and the cashier for touchdown. and. That's the other thing too is that we were sort of reading some articles about how you know brees says he's too old. It's passed him by and they'll say look at the numbers and it's like, okay well, he's dropping off from seventy percent completion to sixty two. In, the other quarterback would be fine with with with sixty two. Payton still knows how to call plays. He loves screwing around with tastes him hill and getting creative there I haven't i. don't watch breeze every day but to me, he does not like like he's lost step. Maybe, he's not as fast and maybe it takes them a little bit longer to recover because of father time. But to me, he looks just fine. What do you think? Your, when I watch the replays of the Games watch the coaches tape I don't see this national narrative that his arm strength is lacking I think the saints have struggled a little bit with synchronicity offensive. So sophisticated, they rely so much on timing anticipation of because a breeze and the way he likes to play quarterback that it it's GonNa take them a little while I think the more. So than most offenses to get on the same page in the fact that he hasn't had Mike Thomas Arguably. The best receiver in the game for four of his five games they kind of security blanket on those underneath and intermediate rouse I think all those things have in but they've managed to last three weeks rick the score thirty more points in three games in a row without light. Thomas and I think that should a scary thought for the rest of the League wants this offense gets everything on the same page gets their full lineup together I think they're going to be back to helmet on all cylinders Very shortly after this guy we. Last question for you year. The average New Orleans resident is walking down Bourbon Street in the French quarter and on one side of the street, they'd see brees and on the other side of the street they see Zion where they going this breeze still more Popular Zion kind of taken that town over. Yeah. I. Think he will be the heir apparent to the throne up, but there's no question right now it's still drew brees is on. Drew brees is. Even with the kind of misstep that he had this summer where he was involved in the controversy, the Social Justice, the ailing the flag controversy that alienated some of his fan base. he's still the most popular player in the history of New Orleans. Sports. By far, and there will be a statue erected him shortly after he retired when that day comes, but I make no mistake. He is. GonNa, be the biggest basketball STAR IN NEW ORLEANS SINCE PETE marriage. There's no question about it and I think his mentality is maturity for his age pretty extraordinary and I think he's kind of the perfect player I. Think maybe finally turn the page in new, Orleans and make it a basketball town. That's our guest Jeff Duncan columnist for the athletic in New Orleans, and he's written the Book Pagan Breeze, the men who built the greatest offense, and that's history available right now from triumph books, congratulations on the Book Jeff and it's Kinda, cool. 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We got knocked off the earliest ones. Now today is who this can be. So I am anticipating smooth sailing here. Would surely means something will go wrong. Dammit were here on the area do our best year today. It is. Wednesday. Here on the program, you should know what that means we obey Wfan Annex. Tonight. Yesterday? I went on and on about the previews for both of these shows might have been a couple of days ago but suffice to say as of yesterday. We had a full lineup for eighty W. And for Annex T, we didn't have one single solitary thing announced for the show going head to head with aws anniversary show. Well, thank God for social, media now, we have a lineup for an X. T. at least somewhat of a lineup. So we'll take it through the lens for both of those shows here. Today we also have the raw ratings which were up little bits four, the draft show I cannot say that I was blown away by these numbers. Perhaps some people were because it was up ten percent. But up ten percent for a draft show the second night of the draft Monday night raw. Color me unimpressed. We'll take you through those numbers as well, and really we have an opportunity to take a lot of your feedback today. So we will be taking phone calls be ready for that and your text messages and emails as well. One thing I'd like to hear from you about today is your thoughts on the first year anniversary W. What do you like about aws you not like about a w how do you think it's changed over a year? What were you expecting a year ago and how did it turn out now that we're one year in any thoughts on eighty w today same day is diversity show. We'd love to hear them text messages forty, five, seventy, eight, zero, seven, five, six, I am Brian and wrestling observer dot Com Mike is at. A moment of observer live. Airlines have just reduced their prices even more book thirty days in advance and save big want the absolute lowest prices on your airline tickets. 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Can Show Brian, Alvarez here wrestling observer alive a mix for BB, also of wrestling observer DOT COM. Listen I'm absolutely I. Want to make this abundantly clear I. Am not saying that this is because of me. Okay but. I cannot help but notice when I go to all elite wrestling. Dot Com today. A giants page. That says these words a e W dynamite preview. I click the button and there's a whole preview up tonight show right here. Excellent. Find job now. I I got I've checked. You 'cause I checked this right before we went on the air. But let's go to the exte- website. Let's see what's up there. At X T. I gotta go to Debra Dot Com then they take you to annex team. Let me do. All right. Let's see. What we've got here is results from last week. That's the top story from show seven days ago. There we've got a bunch of videos. then. We've got what? Whoever moon decks loomis and Tony Storm have in store for annex t this Wednesday which is a video that we have allaster black Johnny Gargano. Match. We have shots. He talking about annex t halloween havoc. Then we have Danny Burch versus Ridge? Holland. Then we have big things are on the horizon for drake and Dane we have no preview. Zilch on the annex t website. But luckily for you. I am a professional and I have previews. Of the next show for you here tonight. A bunch of matches announced yesterday on social media. Scheduled for tonight's edition of X T. We have Damian priest versus Dexter loomis. Okay Listen God blessed extra loomis I'm sure he's a great guy I realized that I his matches I just don't get it. I don't again don't get the character. But a few months ago and exceeded this big lead in. And had over a million viewers watching it exte- when the show started. And then, I remember how many minutes of the show it was but it was not very many. Dexter loomis came up for a match and they lost four hundred thousand viewers when he came out. and. So we've an. Dynamite anniversary show here tonight annexed has nothing announced. And they finally announced something the day before the show it is Dexter loomis getting shot at the north, American champion. That's what they came up with. This followed by an appearance by Tony Storm, only Larkin and Danny Burge will face strong and bobby fish were the winners get an annex t take championship match that match should be awesome. That's something to look forward to and then a sit down interview of Ember Moon. Which I hope is better than the interview she had last week. That's the we have for an exterior tonight. This is going head to head with the anniversary edition of Awa dynamite. Technically it's the anniversary of Wgn, extend the USA network, but they didn't make it into a special. We Have Jon Moxley Verses Lance Archer for the Awa Championship. Jake Roberts in Lance. Archer Corner. We have FDR defending the W tag team championships against the best friends. A match that it's been in the making for quite actually all of these matches have been except for this one cody versus Orange Cassidy was set up last week after after cody returned it was challenged by Orange Cassidy after winning. The AWA TNT TITLE IN A. In a chain match dog collar match, and we also have Ikaria Shita defending the Awa women's championship against Big Swale there are four championship matches on the program Tonight Miro and keep saving. We'll be having a match and. We have a gigantic announcement by MJ, F tonight on the show I have no idea what it is. But my guess is. My guess is that perhaps he is joining. Chris Jericho in the inner circle. So we'll see what happens tonight on the show. I I can't imagine a scenario wherein exte- wins tonight I mean one shows loaded in one show ounce everything yesterday anything is possible. But we'll find out on Thursday afternoon the most exciting afternoon every week at least on my twitter timeline. Yeah on paper it certainly doesn't seem like and x t brought a whole lot to this anniversary show to to buck up against it. So we'll have to see what happens here but considering the aws been holding the advantage by a large amount when it comes to viewers every week a couple of hundred thousand I don't think at least on paper right now from what everything is set up as. They got much of a shot belay. You never know we'll see maybe the the mustache of Dexter loomis is now that he's back it's been able to enchant people that watch last week and they've told all their friends you've got to see this match. Doubt it. Goes through of the text messages here we'll get the ratings here in a while. Person says I'm still a big fan of aws after one year I look forward to it every week I like the storytelling, the prestigious feel of the titles and introduced me to a bunch of wrestlers that never heard of that. I am a fan of now. This person here says I wanted to thank you for using your influence for good and getting a w put a preview I do not think that this is my responsibility but hey, listen I don't care I've said this a million times I don't care if it's me or Dave or name anybody that does any sort of show or if it's somebody a Or whoever? The Lord. Long as I get a preview up on the website. That's all I. Care About I. Don't need credit. I just want the preview up there. Person says, I've watched Debbie since eighteen, ninety, two I have not been able to stand it since the two thousand and two triple h title rate on raw. Keep up up give up on wrestling altogether twenty eleven I was brought back by new Japan. In Twenty fifteen, we will talk about the g one later today we're getting down to the nitty gritty here. Yes, we are as they say. I think aws. Awesome. This person says, Kay. We see what they do in your to of dynamite. However, their women's division is what can really make eighty w even better. Well as many people have noted, including Brit Baker in an interview, just the other day there is an issue with the women's division and there's a lot of great wrestlers that can't make it to America right now. So I know some people on the Internet are up in arms about a w in the women but. In my opinion everything is fine and it will be better once they can get their full roster available for eight. W. And they're doing the right thing. That's the one thing that they're doing with dark in these other shows is they're trying you with their fourteen match. Dark shows is they're trying to accentuate the positives and much as they can and try to get a lot of young people including people like well hobbs to it's not just the women's division but people like that who are fulltime on their roster is much ring time as they possibly can in a very difficult. Situation Whence one P once people start coming back as well to again, they have a very young women's division. So even when you bring back some established names and put them back in the Knicks, there's going to be a curve. It's the biggest thing with the women's division and just I know there are passionate fans of the Awa Women's division but not everything is fluffy bunnies in that division. It's GonNa take a Lotta time for those people to come together but That's okay because you look at somebody like Anna J and how many matches as she had in her career eight ten I, mean honestly I really I don't know but you see re presence now and it's like okay at least you see some of these young people like her like the wool Hobbes's of the world or going to be coming along and they're trying to incorporate them and bring them along at a good pace. Very. Bold prediction here dynamite one point one, million, eight, point four. The eighteen to forty nine demo. We'll see that seems high to me. We'll see. Person says MGM announcement has got to be that they found semi Guevarra t shirt that would be funny Jeff I. Think it's got to be bigger than that. He has his track checking either they break out the jacket and it's actually like something like you know. What's a store in the MALL FOR BABIES? Carter's or whatever it is. It's like an expert small jacket or something. Like L. E. Awa respects the legends such as Greg Valentine hated when w we buried Wendi Richter Cindy lauper when they did a Roskilde and twenty twelve well. What he does Vince, if you're old, you're the butt of jokes and wwe it does suck. I mean every now and then they treat legends like legends but I mean in general in general it is not incorrect to say if you're a legend in me, you're probably GONNA be beat up or humiliated. Back in a moment more observer life. 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That is going to be the plan this coming Friday night seven, thirty, eastern, which DOT TV. Slash for W video. Make sure you join us. You won't regret it specially reader question. Person says there have been two D. cues the last two Helena cellmate offense. What are the odds of its throws a curve ball and does another q in the hell in a cell? I think that would be a very bad idea. Because This audience here I mean we've run them off like crazy. We ran them off from the draft. Lasting to do is run him off from any interest in Helena Sell I. Think there's got to be a decisive finish in those helen sell matches now whether there will be I have no idea. They may just do another d q again and I'm sure someone's going to say it wasn't a D. Cube Ryan it was a ref stoppage come on. I. Was GonNa hit him with a mallet and the ref called for the bell. You can call whatever you want. We were ripped off his fans with that finish I mean this for crying out loud the do him with a giant mallet that was all right. But then he gets a small mallet and you got call for the bell that stupid. was that last year. It happened this year it has twenty twenty. It's been so rough a singing style would help us l. was in twenty nineteen. I can assure you that it was last year. How many bad. What who did Bray Whiteface at the royal rumble because we all know who he faced wrestlemanias Daniel Bryan was what was I? Remember? We had one good year was Daniel Bryan must have been it. Right so the draft did not move the smackdown numbers much on Friday. It lead here according to Dave a substantial increase for raw. Oh come on one point, eight, five, million viewers and a point five, seven in eighteen to forty nine. The numbers were up ten percent in both viewers and eighteen to forty nine from last week part of it was also a big decline in football viewership I think that's mostly what this is and it fell ten million viewers and a three point three five rating as compared to the main game. Last week did fourteen point six, million viewers in four. At eighteen to forty nine National League Championship series on Fox did four, point, two, million, and one point two in eighteen forty, nine rod was fifth for the night on cable in eighteen to forty, nine, three. NFL related shows on ESPN and below deck Meditarranean overall thirty second place, they beat all cable television programming except NFL related shows and news shows. Notice that by the way when I was talking about how eight w beat all entertainment shows except debate related shows and Major League Baseball I was accused of being an aws pocket but I just told you right there then Robbie everything. Except News shows NFL. Roy beat those shows the NFL fourth in males fourteen or eighteen to thirty, four, fifth and meals. Twelve thirty four. There was a huge decline in viewers during the show so. That tells me that tells me that it was not interested in the draft because it was people would have stuck around for the whole draft two point one, zero, one, million viewers in the first hour one, point eight, second one, point six, eight third. They lost almost basically a three hundred and something thousand viewers over the course of the show Yep there was. An increase if I recall correctly in women. Watching the show. Although somebody on our board noted, there was an increase in women the same week that there was no ninety day fiance or as I like to call it ninety day finance at show is not on the air and Ross on increasing in women's viewer. So I would think that would have been part of it the they found something else to watch. Some other trash television show wash. So anyway, that's the number everybody and the draft has been killed I mean ten percent like if you gonNA celebrate that I don't know what to tell you. That's not reason for celebration. This is the draft. This is shuffling the board for the next year or at least like the next six months or at least the next month until survivor series. But the fact of the matter is the draft should be doing better than a ten percent increase going head to head with the didn't do better than the week before. The more viewers they start with the more viewers they lose by the third hour third hour was one point six, million people. Period in every go right back down, we saw what you're selling. We don't like it and the atrophy comes and. By the end of it, you're right at your lowest. For. Persons alerting me the below deck mediterraneans reality show featuring young hot people working on a luxury yacht. I'm aware of that I don't below deck Mediterranean his as well as ninety day fiance have you watched I'm not sure what that has to do with anything though other than they're doing better than raw virtually every single week you ever get below deck in the Mediterranean dude why don't they just put raw on a boat? For Ninety days and then Jericho's GonNa Ninety Day raw. Mediterranean there you go. Island we still need we need all they're all at a boat for ninety days they can't dock. Just. Stuck out there for ninety days somewhat like Gilligan's island except it'd be more modern be ninety days and everyone needs to go out there. And be below deck wrestling. Some sort of we need some sort of of of angle to this lake. Once you lose, you got to walk the plank. You're thrown off the boat by the time they get back to Florida there needs to be a boat with just one person one captain and everybody else. That's who the winner is. Person says they W started I watched every week live watched INEX- John dvr did that until about December when I realized annex t is more consistent and more my taste and wrestling now at the point where I only watched the pay per views Awa does. I respect that I know that will be a very popular sentiment, but I will say this. Is A is. Anywhere, near as exciting as AWS, no is an t if you are wwe especially, if you're a wwe born and bred fan and you watch that show that may be your alternative. You're happy alternative to what you see on wrong on smackdown and it is more logical show. There is more athletics in some ways that happens on that show there is. A lot more that makes sense on those shows. Now, we don't necessarily like some of the people they use all the time some of the stories blogging wwe land get a little off kilter. Especially, in this aspect is very antiseptic show in comparison to a W., it's very sterile, but it usually is a solid professional wrestling television show. It may not be Your Cup of tea but annex t of the three brands on WWe I don't believe it's even close. This person says MJ F is a he'll. Of course, is big announcement will be disappointing. Well, you don't WanNa make the guy knew a comedy Geek I mean at some point at some point, he should be announcing he's joining the inner circle or however they're going to do it like this is not. I mean listen. There's effective heels and there's ineffective heels. You do not want to be an ineffective. He'll where he promises a big announcement and it's a letdown every time I mean you can't. This will not work for this character he wanted to do this for some undercard. Dork. Knock yourself out but MGM needs to have credibility as a heel. So can't all be comedy letdowns? person. Says Cody mentioned aws hiring a lot more wrestlers to prepare for their second show soon, he also said the show will not be w dark. It will be something so much more perhaps on the same level of dynamite. Well. Better be on network TV with all due respect offense on network TV. But Cable TV cable, cable network television I mean look at it's going to be on TNT. TVs, true TV I don't know exactly what's you know swim who the hell knows what whatever it doesn't matter whatever turner product this thing is going to be on. It's got to be network quality. You've already hit you know what worked with your main television show if you're bringing another one and it's not just Internet only or just going to be on bleacher report, you got to go big you absolutely have to go back I cannot blame him they're doing. Do I think they need to sign tons more wrestlers? Not they got a lot To begin with and when they're at full strength again and ready to do this show, I mean they a lot of people to choose from. So we'll see how that goes and everything but yeah, I mean, you got that show cannot be dark it's got to be. It's got to be as close as you can design to my you gotta take that approach with it. Says Awa. The promotion I'm embarrassed to have on when people walk into the room. Says my girlfriend and I are huge wfan's we watch dynamite every week I've been a fan since ninety eight it is easily the best mainstream. Television show that I have seen. and. This one is person here says I loved the first year of dynamite. How would you compare to WCW or ause first year to? WCW. Off Ninety, five, ninety, six, ninety, seven was awesome. It was awesome. That's like the whole. If you watch a W I mean that's clearly Tony. Kahn's ideas like this is what I want this to be is it's very reminiscent of when WCW was. Awesome. 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Show is here wrestling observer alive Mike Zimmer of wrestling observer DOT COM. Man I was just watching that twitch stream twitch dot. TV slash shift for video and I won I beat Moondog Ed Moretti three count pinfall right there in the middle of the ring Trick photography no, it's not true photography I won that match. Like I win all the time people just ignore it a focus on my losses not my wins I don't know why she wants to be my homies won't maybe we should show them readings winning. Person says the one thing? I have loved about a w in the first year if they will allow rustler's to get decisive clean victories over their opponents matter who they are or where they are in the pecking order like me some sort of Deke or goofy finish on TV every other week. So they can avoid painting or submitting a guy is amazing Tony Kahn paying every single one of these people sending in these text messages all paid off all biased texters texting into this television show. And Tony Tony Tony needs money my way since you're not doing it. I might I you was better than raw because they were meant for different things. Dynamite is about putting on great shows on TV raw was way to advertise and either by the pay per view where the big matches are well dynamite does the same things but yes, it's it's a different way of doing television. Role was basically WWe superstars on the USA network in Primetime in a really small building. Let's see here. According to busted open annexed t fan izzy of Bailey fame. who used to hate aws now watches them live in Dvr, exte- or all. That, she must be getting paid to. First job not bad parents. College man they got the parents are the bottom a car they're gonNA put him up in a house of college athletics. That's how they're trying to get the easy through the parents the influence. Since says, early Ross regret because all we had prior to that was boring match. Challenge. Wants to Manhattan. Center shows in ninety three great stuff. Well, bro We also WF superstars, which had a bunch of goofy squash matches but that show was fun it would show every. It wasn't fun every week but that was a fun. Show a WF superstars show in like ninety one I mean superstars and challenge could absolutely be fun especially superstars since it was their their, you know their their main program you know for every we did get A. Big Change over. But a lot of people it's like you know you forget about nitro stood there's good and bad and a lot of people to concentrate on the good. But you know Damian Demento, the undertaker wasn't exactly you know. Jon Moxley and Lance Archer. So I with aws again, it's time times have changed and everything, but yeah I get. Those early nitro vibes far more from aws. That's to me is one of the the better comparisons because they like their carnival thirty one flavors everybody's going to have something delay cruiserweight steelite flying around like big Hoss's delay. Great matches delay great tag teams. That's the biggest thing with me in a w because I am old and I grew up in the eighties and I'm a big Fan of tag team wrestling rock and roll express midnight express telling our and all that sort of stuff and they've taken that you know that feel and that that. History, and that's something that Tony Kahn wants to to push in aws, and that's one of the biggest best things because like Arn Anderson says, you know I honestly believe in one of those people that if you have a great tag team match, it's hard as hell to follow you know can rick flair follow Ricky steamboat lot of day. Sure. There's some people that can. But if you have four guys going balls out and it's awesome match and I, kind of defy those two, you know two people go out there and try to top it. A four four, nine, one, three, twenty, seven, twenty, seven is the phone number. Is Eight, four, four, nine, one, three, twenty, seven, twenty-seven, Dagan his on the air, and he will not let me down what's going on. I certainly hope not Brian. I want to ask you guys about the G. One show to the twitter chat always So. Regarding Naito It looks like he probably won't win is blocked obviously I don't think it makes much sense to have the champion win the block but he he does I haven't watched day get sixteen yet but he has had losses to Sonata Evil Up to this point So the first question about that is, do you think he will defend the Intercontinental? Championship and the I W BP? Championship at the same time from now on. Do you think you'll defend those title separately maybe to the to the Tokyo Dome Show where he'll defend the belt on night one and then the GPO on night to and do you think whoever pins him before that would get to pick which title that they. I don't think anyone's going to pick the final title if they've got the I W GP. Well, listen I. WanNa thank you very much for calling one thing. So, because I'm a fair man which I am. I talked about how ridiculous it was on raw that they announced the draft and they say that if a team or a singles. Champion gets drafted the they bring the belt with them. And somehow this billion dollar organization had no forward thinking to figure out what would happen if the raw take team champions ended up on smackdown and vice versa. So. That happens smackdown gets the rotate champs rugged smackdown team champs. Then they do segment on raw where they're just like they're baffled and add appears has to why don't you guys just switch belts that'll make things easier and now the street profits are triple crown champions. The new day is broken to take team championship record all because straps were handed over to other people. Okay. It's ridiculous and I pointed out how could you not have a plan? What was the? If. The raw and smackdown take him champions. Then what was that? APPEARS GONNA do? You can't switch the belts. Do Mail them to raw. So anyway. I bring this up because I got the same not to this degree but. They built up this big. Match. The Tokyo Dome or somebody was gonNA. Leave with the idol GP heavyweight title, the Intercontinental Title. Okay. That was in January. It's currently October. I realized that a pandemic SORTA screwed everything up. But. It appears in storyline. That new Japan has no idea what's going on with NATO having to belts. Himself didn't interview last month and he was like, I don't even know if I'm a dual champion or if these belts have been unified like if they've been unified, just give me one belt. Or just let me just let me defend them separately. Your champion in August is expressing confusion as to what's going on with these two titles. What's going on here? How did they explain everything or figure out they were GONNA do they seem like a company? It's just like. Coasting along with this guy having to belts and not even telling the guy whether he's a dual champion or the unify champion. Wait a second. How do you know that they don't right now? Well, the champion a month ago did it know someone should have told him? Are you sure that that there was no cafe this was a this was all straight shoot Naito I'm talking in cave in k. fame in storyline the champion doesn't know if he's a dual champion or visa unify champion, he said that a month ago and his interview. He's also been guy you know went through before he won the world I. Remember he didn't care about the icy title with throw it around. So it's not like he's got a great history with that belt. I'm not saying that you're not wrong or that he may not have some question I. Just I cannot even fathom putting new Japan in the realm of wwe when it comes to they have no idea what they're going to do with that belt. I know they. Wish they were. Just telling they were setting up the G. One and they were doing all those sorts of things. I have a feeling that wants this thing plays out we are going to have some. Clarity when it comes to that position and we are going to see here rare very soon, what the setup is going to be we lead into the Tokyo Dome because I think is going to end up defending both belts and that I see I can easily see coming off of them. I'm not saying that this is as bad as when Debbie we drafted the champions different brands in someone came out and told the switch belts to solve the problem. Okay. But. I don't think in October we should be having people call into the show and asking questions about is he going to defend one belt or two belts and we actually have no earthly idea. But that's but bribe we we're not even to the I. If they this was a month from now and it's November and we're into the real world tag league, we're super junior's in the concentrations there, and we don't have any clarity on where we're going to go for the big matches or the big dudes going into the big singles matches going into the fourth and the fifth or third and fourth, whatever it is or however this is GonNa work this year. The reality is again, let this thing play out until after the G. One is over if they don't have any if we don't have any clarity after that that's fine but. See that caller has gotta remember his too. It's not like Naito taking shots at the company or anything has not been part of his interviews anywhere being nonchalant or just kinda throwing things up in the air on. Yeah. What about this? It's not like he hasn't done that. So I'm not I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm saying what I'm just saying is let's wait till the GM one is over and I think we're going to have a little bit more clarity right after that. According to to which right here he is a dual champion they did a poll he's not a unified champion. So at least twitches got this figured out. Course they. So here's the update on the G. One. So at this point. Jay White S. twelve points. If he beats a she, he wins the block. CODA Bucci has twelve points he will win if he beats. Taichi. and. Lose draw or no contest Okada and has twelve points here. If he beats Osprey he wins the block and white and blue shell set to lose draw no contest at CETERA ET CETERA and we'll all spray also has ten points. So basically realistically block one of these four minutes the winner it's either GonNa be Jay White, Bushy Okada or will spray For the B-BLOCK. Many people have been eliminated, but in contention still evil. Naito, Sonata, and Zack Sabre Junior now. I have no prediction who's going to win either these blocks are being the finals but I will say that I don't think it's impossible that NATO winces block and then loses to somebody in the finals I mean we are working to set up championship matches here and you could do a situation where I mean night has to belts I mean naito could be beaten by A. Okada in the finals, for example, and Okada's guaranteed I w GP championship match at the Dome. But maybe he wants his intercontinental championship match against NATO coming up in November, whatever there's a lot of ways to go. But we'll know more in just a few days. Predictions are looking pretty good. Got There a little bit prediction. I, had I had a sheet would would the those who listened to the big audio nightmare? I had bushy White Nakada you know coming to the final day now also had NATO evil in Sinatra also coming down to the final days. So three, three way playoffs here And I hope ultimately had a and Sonata ending up with tiebreakers ultimately getting the victories there and I was thinking well, maybe maybe you could do Sonata then you finally have Sonata Naito but to me. This year I would CODA. Obuchi Naito. That's a big match and I don't know what the plant exactly is for bushy. You could do a bushy Tallahassee one last time. There's a lot of different things you can do but. I can see in the first quarter of next year I could actually see NATO still being the champion but I see that I see title if it's not Andrzej White, it's going to be on evil but I have a feeling maybe on Jay White. Right. This person year says a lot of text messages I. Love Aws Russell Funding in the states good storytelling, great action none of this goofy sports entertainment garbage that has not been good since two, thousand two. I, love how when I watch eight W with regular people, there is nothing to be embarrassed about we got a lot of text messages saying that exact same thing there there is but. Like I Okay. Eighty W is sports entertainment stole a lot of the time to I. Mean there are times where it's like you know whether. It's a referendum on things like trance mom and things like that. But. The balance is so much better and that's the thing is even though there's a lot UNAI w sometimes it just makes grind my teeth and it's just not for me. At the very least, there's good stuff there to balance that out and good matches to balance that out. Moment everybody. Wrestling Observer live. We are the debt destroyer, networking Eddie debt you have credit card TANS, student loan debt call. Now for free information that helps you destroy your debt. 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You're listening to wrestling observer live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper v on the sports byline broadcasting network. Making the show, Brian Alvarez here wrestling observer lab mix impervious also wrestling zero dot com John and Arkansas here isn't called for awhile. Says I watched both in exte- any W I see value in each show. Buddy adds. W has an energy that is better. They both have a different energy I can tell you that much. True Brian Yes J. Whites best wrestler in the world. Proved me wrong. I'll come on. He's he is. He's incredible but dude. She. Ed Minorities Zouqi. And you could probably go straight down at most of the G. One maybe not Yano. That's what you do from J. Y. naive rate down buddy. Jay Wide is great. He's awesome I don't know if I would say is the best in the world, but he is certainly one of the best in the world I won't take anything away from the guy. Process when a friend told me about the debut of aws very excited at the prospect of a competitive alternative with wwe I was nervous about being able to enjoy his show without knowing the wrestlers. But I hope that I can enjoy the process of getting to know New People I was right one year later this is true because I still feel like I barely know their characters at all I still do enjoy it though and hope the addition of a new show will allow a w shared their stories in more depth. Person says he's going to be great because he knelt another ember moon talking segment and my question is why after a promo last week was below average well, there's a big difference. Tonight is sit down interview last week was live. Actually might have been live actually she was live or tape, but it was live to tape. It was not life this one you could sit down. Ask the right questions. Do, a couple of takes edited together listen one of the best things about annex teaser video packages. So I have no doubt that this is what it'll be a thousand times better than last week. Anyway right a time we'll talk about bowe shows tomorrow. Thanks everybody for listening were completely at a time. We'll talk to you next time wrestling observer live. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting what twenty percent and our by newsbeat. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by. Follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. Defending. Herself for a third day Lisa Brady Fox News Supreme. Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett assuring skeptical Democratic senators again, she would bring an open mind to the Supreme Court even though she follows the same originalist philosophy is the late Justice Antonin Scalia and I hope that you aren't suggesting that I don't have my own mind I couldn't think. That I would just decide like, let me see what Justice Scalia has said about this in the past because I assure you, I have my own mind. 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This is plastic wrap theater James Stewart as a sixty. Gun. Who? Doesn't. Silver the lone ranger now here's your host. Why it Cox Western Adventure Raymond Burr starring in Fort Laramie from sixty four years ago October Fourteenth Nineteen fifty-six and we thank you for tuning in on this Wednesday fourteenth day about Tober two, hundred, eight day of Twenty Twenty, seventy, eight days remaining until we get to the end of the year, the Britain's east India company T ships cargo burned at Annapolis Maryland on this date in seventeen seventy three George Washington proclaiming the. First, thanksgiving day in seventeen eighty nine George Eastman patenting the paper Strip photographic film made it more available for the general public before was paper film and had to be glass plates and it was very expensive and it was just not an easy thing for the general public to do English Aviator Claude grahame white landed his farm and biplane on Executive Avenue near the White House on this date in nineteen ten. Executive Avenue. That's now. Pennsylvania. Avenue while campaigning in Milwaukee on this date in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twelve former president Teddy Roosevelt shot by a saloon keeper with fresh flesh wound the bullet still in Roosevelt still liberty is scheduled speech it was on this date in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thousand, sophomore tackle and guard. Paul. robeson excluded from the Rutgers football team when Washington Lee University refused to play against a black person. The Children's Book Winnie. The pooh published on this date in nineteen, twenty six and in one thousand, nine, thirty, three Nazi Germany withdrew from the League of Nations in one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, seven, chuck yeager flew bell x one faster than the speed of sound. The first man to do it in level flight has. One hundred, twenty, five at the time. I believe and. Over this roster in great detail, sliced it about twenty five dollars that we considered qualified for the flight. We then called in each of these pilots and interview them. Of course, having quite a bit of personal knowledge there attitude and ability and We'd hope to the pilot doesn't have a family on married probably. You're interviewing all the tiles. We always came back to yeager. He had demonstrated his ability humorous occasions in our presence and various demonstrations feel also and test work. Colonel Allen Boyd on the selection of eager to make that flight on this date in one thousand, nine, hundred, forty, seven eleven leaders of the Communist Party convicted on this date in one thousand, nine, hundred, forty, nine after a nine month trial of conspiring to to advocate the violent throw of the US government. The Cuban missile crisis began on this date in one thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, two as a youtube flight over Cuba. Took photographs of Soviet nuclear weapons being installed Leonid Brezhnev became general secretary of the Communist Party on this date in one, thousand, nine, sixty, four, and leader of the Soviet Union ousting Nikita Khrushchev it was on this date in nineteen sixty, four American civil rights. Leader. Dr Martin Luther King received a Nobel Peace Prize I. Do not consider this merely an ANA to me personally. But a tribute to the discipline wise restraint and majestic courage of the millions of gallant negroes and white persons of goodwill. Who have followed a nonviolent chorus and seeking to establish a reign of justice and the rule of love across this nation of ours king. The youngest person ever to receive the Nobel Peace Prize on this date in nineteen sixty four the first live telecast of a manned spacecraft Apollo seven on this date in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, eight, citing official misconduct in the investigation and trial Amnesty International charged the government withholding Richard Marshall of the American Indian movement as a political prisoner on this date in one thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one in one thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight, Eric Robert Rudolph charged with six bombings including the nineteen ninety-six Centennial, Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta. Felix Baumgartner successfully jumped to Earth from a helium balloon in the stratosphere on this date in two thousand twelve in the Red Bull Stratos project. Yes privately funded. Utah State University received a bomb threat on this date in twenty fourteen against Spem this media critic and Meka Sarah Vaughan who was to give a lecture the next day. Passing away on this date in history actor Errol Flynn. Actress Dame Edith Evans Singer Bing Crosby Keenan. WYNN another fine actor composer conductor Leonard Bernstein writer animal activists, and Curmudgeon at large Cleveland Amory Musician Frankie Yankovic Musician Freddy Fender. And Pr