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The Gluten Connection to Osteoporosis and Autoimmune Diseases

Dishing Up Nutrition

04:55 min | 15 hrs ago

The Gluten Connection to Osteoporosis and Autoimmune Diseases

"I'm Cassie Wenas. I've been a registered and licensed stay Titian for twenty two years and of those twenty two years I've been teaching nutrition classes and Co hosting this dishing up nutrition program for about the past fourteen to fifteen years. I am telling you this certainly not to make myself feel old. But to let you know that I have quite a bit of experience to share and I feel really fortunate to be able to be here this morning to help all of you listening better understand the connection between what you eat and how you feel. And today my co host Teresa and I will be discussing subject that I know a lot about and if we're being honest I know a lot about this topic more by destiny certainly not by choice we're going to be talking about the myriad of health problems that gluten grains cause for a lot of people as many of our listeners know I know a lot about this topic not only because of how gluten has negatively affected my health but what? Really drives, my passion on this topic stems from the fact that both of my kids have a condition called seal EAC and if you're not familiar with this autoimmune condition in a nutshell, it's when your body has a severe reaction to gluten and actually causes your body to begin attacking itself. It's kind of like the immune system goes haywire, and if you swallow even just a tiny speck of gluten, your immune system I begins attacking your own small intestine. So. Now you know a little bit about our topic for the day next, I'd like to ask a few questions just to get everybody connecting the dots as we delve further into what we call the dark side of gluten. So question number one, do you or a close family member have lupus. Do you or a close family member have rheumatoid arthritis or do you have a thyroid condition like? Disease or Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Do you have Raynaud's if you're not familiar with rain odds, I can explain from personal experience. Raynaud's is when the blood vessels in your hands and your feet. Constrict when you get cold and they constrict beyond what's Normal When the weather or the air is cold or it can happen because of stress as well, and then your fingers or your toes might turn white and you get sort of a burning pain not fun. Or is your Autoimmune Disease Scleroderma or type one diabetes. Do you or a loved one have chronic acid reflux or do you have osteoporosis if you can say, yes to any of these questions you're in for a super informative show today theresa and I WanNa help you make the connection between eating gluten grains namely the the Ri- The barley and most oats and your health problems. And as I just mentioned, my co host today is Theresa. I WanNa tell you a little bit more about her Theresa Wagner like me is a registered and licensed AIA Titian she to teaches many of our nutrition classes she of course, Co host this radio program. She's a mom of young kids and she counsels clients several days a week either by zoom or phone appointments because of Covid, nineteen were offering all of our nutritional counseling either by video or phone appointments. Yes. That's right and we are staying busy with those phone appointments and zoom appointments but as it relates to our topic today, cassie. Mentioned earlier that your kids CEAC. Disease. It made me think were you shocked at the many hidden sources of gluten when you started? Living a gluten free life all those years ago I really was shocked I had been a Dietitian for many years at that point by the time our family got diagnosed. So I knew gluten was inbred. I. Knew it was in anything made with wheat flour but I had no idea of the more hidden sources of gluten in our American food supply just to give you a couple. Of examples. Gluten is in some brands of Deli meat. It's in a lot of summer sausage and beef stick brands. It's in some ice creams for heaven's sakes and even in some medicines, not only that but when you have, CEAC, you have to be careful about personal care items to you need to be sure you're buying gluten free shampoo gluten free toothpaste, gluten-free Lotion, and gluten-free makeup. Yeah. It's so crazy to me that gluten is an ingredient in so many every day nonfood products. It reminds me of a client who had ongoing migraine headaches. We have limit. You know we had gone through elimination where we Eliminated. The dietary sources of what we thought causing the Migraines and we went through lifestyle habits that we thought could possibly be causing the migraines when we finally looked at her personal care products and switched to a shampoo without added gluten. Her migraines they disappeared.

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The Trifecta: Hypothyroidism, adrenal fatigue and leaky gut

Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health

05:26 min | 2 months ago

The Trifecta: Hypothyroidism, adrenal fatigue and leaky gut

"On today's episode. We're going to be digging deep into some nutrition science about thyroid disease specifically about hypothyroidism the adrenals leaky gut, and it's going to be with Dr Becky Campbell. So surprise, this episode is actually an old episode that aired almost two years ago. So a lot of you new listeners around here. Hey, love Ya probably haven't heard this one yet, and it is one of my favorites that I have done plus it's so packed with information that I figured it's time to bring this one up again. So Dr Becky Campbell is our guest today and she is a functional medicine practitioner who is sharing her personal health journey through sickness with conventional medicine to finally finding health with functional medicine. So we are diving into the causes of thyroid dysfunction and why we need to go so much more beyond food for true healing from stress management to heal healing gut and liver issues. Other hormonal imbalances addressing heavy metal toxicity or parasites analyst goes onto a lot of other things to disclaimer here Dr Campbell is talking about a specific. Dietary. Protocol four thyroid disease. This is one of those circumstances where it may be helpful to remove certain foods for healing if you have a diagnosis of thyroid disease or hypothyroid or hypothyroid however, if you have any history of disordered eating chronic dieting morality around foods getting stuck in the good versus bad yes I know who's or an eating disorder and a diagnosis like thyroid disease, you should one hundred percent pretty please definitely work with a practitioner who specializes in thyroid conditions and a non died approach to healing to make. Sure, you don't fall back into old patterns getting into the details a little bit. We're going to talk about the multiple functions of the thyroid gland, which goes way beyond metabolism the difference between Hypo hyperthyroidism and Hashimoto's the connection between leaky gut thyroid issues, low stomach acid, and adrenal fatigue, plus the most important foods and nutrients to include to support thyroid health and why should we be eating gorgeous genyk officials if we have thyroid issues and then what labs to ask your doctor for if you suspect, you have fiery issues. I would love for you to start by talking about your personal health journey and introduce yourself and how you got where you are today. So while I got to learning about functional medicine like most functional medicine practitioners I think by being sick myself. And so I, you know I never really felt great. You know even as a kid I never felt i. think is good as the other kids around me did but when I was in my early twenties I was in college I felt really bad and this was different than my normal not feeling great I knew something was wrong and no one really had any answers for man went to so many doctors and you know, of course, they directed me to five different doctors depending on which body part on. and. You know they just ran such limited labs or they were looking for like pathologically. So you know for my stomach loading, they would do like a dusk opinion and say, Oh, you're fine. You know or they'll do a colonoscopy for some people and if there's no. Raging issue there than then you're fine. So. I kind of went on like that for a while and just started getting worse than I I was increasing my exercise and I was actually noticing that was making me gain more weight which have kind of talked about on some articles and stuff that I've done with the relation to the cortisol issues in weight gain. but. Just getting really frustrated feeling kind of hopeless and like no one was listening to me and then I found functional medicine and I was living in Atlanta at the time and I found this big center that did all they Davis Functional Medicine and I it was amazing. I was so happy you know I had I think like an hour consultation the first time which was crazy 'cause no game different and yeah. Yeah. So you know they found I had a issue and they did that by doing much more thorough lab testing than. than. They were doing in the conventional medicine model plus they were using different lab ranges, which is such a big part of this. and. Then not only did they find out that I had fired issue but they started looking for what was causing it or what was contributing to May symptoms. So after working with functional, Medicine Practitioner for was you know a few months I mean right away I started to feel better but it took about a year and then even as a practitioner I've learned more things and tested myself rather things and found there was other things I was struggling with but you know overall the point being is that there was. You know the conventional medical model, which was me looking fine to them, and then the functional medicine model, which is I found all of these issues and had a work on them right exactly

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"hashimoto" Discussed on Functional Medicine Research with Dr. Nikolas Hedberg

Functional Medicine Research with Dr. Nikolas Hedberg

03:02 min | 5 months ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on Functional Medicine Research with Dr. Nikolas Hedberg

"Functional Medicine Research on Dr Hedberg. And today I'm going to be talking about the connection between leaky gut and Hashi motives disease. So leaky gut is something that was rejected by conventional medicine for many years. despite the fact that there's actually been published papers on the he got. which date back to the nineteen seventies? And curly just just before I did this I did a search on pubmed four leaky gut. There's currently five hundred. published. Period viewed scientific papers on the he got so there's really no doubt that it exists. It seems like even just a few years ago. There were still. Denial that this was a real thing. But leaky gut, it's also known as increased intestinal permeability. term that can be used for it. In the medical literature. And Functional Medicine Practitioners. have been testing for this and treating it for many years. And, really helping patients get well and overcome their illnesses. So Up to this point. We haven't really had any papers on the connection between Lee he. and Hashimoto's disease at least with. A control group. but there was I just want to start with. A paper that was published back in two thousand four. And this paper looked at the gut barriers of patients with Hashimoto's disease. Paper was called ultra structural changes, andro sites and subjects with hashing motives Rodas. And so they biopsy, the small intestine of patients with Hashi motives disease. And they compare their micro village to healthy controls. And, the results did show that patients with Hashi motives disease. Did have structural changes in their micro. Eli and so the micro villa these are the finger like structures that line the gut barrier. it's the micro villa, the control the proper absorption of nutrients, and also they prevent on wanted particles from getting into the bloodstream. And so the these patients with she motos, they had abnormal looking micro villa under the microscope, and the healthy controls had normal looking microwave ally. Now these authors they also did A. it's called a lactose main atoll test. This is kind of a classic. Test for permits -bility. So the lack yellow S- molecule is large so if it gets through. That can indicate increased permeability if the man atoll gets through because man atolls small. that can indicate..

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"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

The Dr. Hedberg Show

06:07 min | 5 months ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

"So the authors conclude that a radical leading blastocyst as Hamas reduced he s H Reduced Anti Tpao. Antibodies and reduced. I'll seventeen the others. Do point out that we we do have some previous research. Showing that blastocyst hominids does increase. I'll seventeen and they also point out that this parasite can increase intestinal permeability resulting in leaky gut. And so they actually use the term leaky gut which was nice to see in the actually stay. Which was I was really surprised to see this. But they say that leaky gut is a major factor in quote many if not all autoimmune conditions so it was really surprised to read that in order to have auto immunity. You have to have three things number. One eight genetic predisposition number two a gut issue a number three some kind of trigger and that could be infection fire mental toxin stressful event. Cedric CETERA. They also state that I'll seventeen inhibits the conversion of T. Four to t three at it does this by suppressing the diadenys enzyme and that's the enzyme that is required to convert t four to t three and so their final conclusion is that treating blastocyst. Hamas infection can improve Hashimoto's thyroiditis and potentially stop its progression. So what do you do with this information? Well the most important thing to do is to get a stool analysis to see if you have the parasite and then eradicated. Conventional Stool tests are not adequate currently using the GI map from diagnostic solutions lab that has very high sensitivity especially for parasites. Now if you have it you know you can try and get medication but I found conventional doctors. Don't believe that blastocyst hominids is a problematic parasite and they don't prescribe occasion for but you may get. Lucky. I Use. Herbal antibiotics in my practice. That are very effective. I combine those with some specific probiotics and get very good results with that So that is an option. Without taking medication I do always tested rehashing motives patient for intestinal parasites to see if they have it. I do find blastocyst this Fairly common I have found that a radical. It does help. The patients feel better. As pointed out in this study fatigue usually gets better. And then if they have constipation or diarrhea that usually resolves one really important thing to note is that you want to be really certain that you have healthy stomach acid levels. So if you have low hydrochloric acid in your stomach. Then you're going to be more PRONE TO INTESTINAL INFECTIONS. Like blastocyst is the acid in your stomach is a major first line of Defense Forgetting infected with anything in your gut and so you could have. There's a lot of reasons why you could have low stomach. Acid like stress knocks it out. Of course he lico b-actor pylori suppresses acid production and H. Pylori is fairly common and hashing motives disease you could have zinc deficiency b-vitamins food sensitivities hypothyroidism. Got This bios and you also want a healthy gut microbiome and gut barrier. That's also going to help to prevent these parasites from taking hold in your gut so a fair number of patients with Hashimoto's disease. They have anti parietal cell. Antibodies and that can be done Through blood testing these are antibodies that destroy the acid producing parietal cells in the stomach. And so that's the reason why the acid levels are so low and the only real option for these patients is to take plenty of between C. Hcl with meals to overcome as loss of hydrochloric acid production. So it's really important to get evaluated for these things with the stool analysis. The pride also antibodies and the any of the other things that I mentioned here to be sure you have healthy stomach. Acid levels and healthy gut function One of the things that can happen is if you don't address these issues since blast though since this is so common you could eradicate with medication or herbal antibiotics. But you'll probably just get reinfected in the future if you don't fix your acid and Upper Gi gut issues. So I've got a link to this paper on Dr Hedberg Dot Com to search for blastocyst ominous. And you'll find both of my articles on this covering the case. Study that I mentioned I cover that last year and I'll have linked to this paper if you want to check it out so hope that was useful again very good study and The results are are really promising. Regarding limiting this parasite and improving your hoshimoto disease so take care everyone.

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"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

The Dr. Hedberg Show

06:16 min | 5 months ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

"Welcome everyone to punctual. Medicine Research on Dr Hedberg and today I'm going to be reporting on a new study on how she motos disease. And the intestinal parasite blastocyst ominous. There's a new paper very very good. Paper just came out and it's a stronger study than what we had previously on blastocyst. This ominous Hashi motos disease which was really just a case. Study and case studies are fairly weak when it comes to their scientific rigor and How much we can really put our faith in a study. That's just a case study because it's just a single individual but this paper is really well done not as many subjects as we would like but still a strong start. And so the paper is called improving. Hashimoto's thyroiditis by radic aiding blastocyst this Hamas in relation to I l seventeen. This was published in the Journal. Therapeutic advances and etto chronology metabolism by L. Zawawi we at all out of Egypt so the authors begin talking about a very important fact that Hashi motos thyroiditis was once thought to be a T. H. One mediated disease but now we know it's a t h seventeen mediated Z's and so t h one just means t helper one cells anti-age seventeen or t helper seventeen cells in until we had discovered t h seventeen cells. We thought that autumn unity was regulated by t h one or t h two cells. And now we know that's not true actually known that for quite a while but for a long time there. It was taught that a autoimmune disease could be t h one or t h to illness But that's just not true. So t h seventeen cells are the cells that drive auto immunity and they produce interleukin seventeen. Or I'll seventeen and that's what this paper is is investigating so quick review of blastocyst. This hominids it is the most common intestinal parasite and humans but most people never get any symptoms but it is an opportunistic parasite so if your gut immune system becomes compromised it can multiply and cause got symptoms like Constipation Diarrhea Year. Double Bowel like symptoms joint pain. Of course it will drive auto immunity and a lot of other health issues and so blastocyst hominids. We don't know exactly the prevalence of somewhere around one point six to sixteen percent in developed countries. But it's up to sixty percent in developing countries and that's because we get it from contaminated food or water and so in developing countries the water. The food is much more likely to be contaminated. So let's break down. The study was sixty patients age. Nineteen to fifty seven and there were nineteen females and one male in each group so we at twenty patients in each group three groups group one twenty patients recently diagnosed with Hashi Motos and they did not have blastocyst as Hamas infection group to twenty patients recently diagnosed with harshly motos. They had confirmed blastocyst. This ominous infection and group. Three were twenty healthy subjects without Hashi motos and were not infected with blastocyst as ominous so just remember group three Are the healthy people with no issues group. One had Hashimoto's with no parasite group to had Hashi motos with the parasite so all the subjects in group one in two had a history of fatigue nine patients in group one and seven patients in Group. Two had a history of constipation and six patients in group to had a history of diarrhea and so blasio sisters as is commonly causes diarrhea so interestingly everyone in group to. Who's infected with blastocyst? Us had higher blood pressure than the other two groups and so they ran a bunch of tests they did free t four free. T. Three T. S. H. Anti Peo-. Antibodies I'll seventeen. They did a stool analysis. Complete blood count liver enzymes. Albumin Billy Ruben. Cholesterol triglycerides blood urea nitrogen and created. And so they were looking at liver and kidney health lipids and the immune system so group to which was the group infected with blastocyst sisters ominous. They were treated with the medication. Nana's Oxyde for three days to eradicate the parasite and they were retested. Six weeks later to confirm that the parasite was gone and it was effective for everyone. So these are the study results. So T. S. H. levels were higher and groups one and two compared to the healthy group as expected

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Hashimotos Disease Improves by Eradicating Blastocystis Hominis

The Dr. Hedberg Show

06:16 min | 5 months ago

Hashimotos Disease Improves by Eradicating Blastocystis Hominis

"Welcome everyone to punctual. Medicine Research on Dr Hedberg and today I'm going to be reporting on a new study on how she motos disease. And the intestinal parasite blastocyst ominous. There's a new paper very very good. Paper just came out and it's a stronger study than what we had previously on blastocyst. This ominous Hashi motos disease which was really just a case. Study and case studies are fairly weak when it comes to their scientific rigor and How much we can really put our faith in a study. That's just a case study because it's just a single individual but this paper is really well done not as many subjects as we would like but still a strong start. And so the paper is called improving. Hashimoto's thyroiditis by radic aiding blastocyst this Hamas in relation to I l seventeen. This was published in the Journal. Therapeutic advances and etto chronology metabolism by L. Zawawi we at all out of Egypt so the authors begin talking about a very important fact that Hashi motos thyroiditis was once thought to be a T. H. One mediated disease but now we know it's a t h seventeen mediated Z's and so t h one just means t helper one cells anti-age seventeen or t helper seventeen cells in until we had discovered t h seventeen cells. We thought that autumn unity was regulated by t h one or t h two cells. And now we know that's not true actually known that for quite a while but for a long time there. It was taught that a autoimmune disease could be t h one or t h to illness But that's just not true. So t h seventeen cells are the cells that drive auto immunity and they produce interleukin seventeen. Or I'll seventeen and that's what this paper is is investigating so quick review of blastocyst. This hominids it is the most common intestinal parasite and humans but most people never get any symptoms but it is an opportunistic parasite so if your gut immune system becomes compromised it can multiply and cause got symptoms like Constipation Diarrhea Year. Double Bowel like symptoms joint pain. Of course it will drive auto immunity and a lot of other health issues and so blastocyst hominids. We don't know exactly the prevalence of somewhere around one point six to sixteen percent in developed countries. But it's up to sixty percent in developing countries and that's because we get it from contaminated food or water and so in developing countries the water. The food is much more likely to be contaminated. So let's break down. The study was sixty patients age. Nineteen to fifty seven and there were nineteen females and one male in each group so we at twenty patients in each group three groups group one twenty patients recently diagnosed with Hashi Motos and they did not have blastocyst as Hamas infection group to twenty patients recently diagnosed with harshly motos. They had confirmed blastocyst. This ominous infection and group. Three were twenty healthy subjects without Hashi motos and were not infected with blastocyst as ominous so just remember group three Are the healthy people with no issues group. One had Hashimoto's with no parasite group to had Hashi motos with the parasite so all the subjects in group one in two had a history of fatigue nine patients in group one and seven patients in Group. Two had a history of constipation and six patients in group to had a history of diarrhea and so blasio sisters as is commonly causes diarrhea so interestingly everyone in group to. Who's infected with blastocyst? Us had higher blood pressure than the other two groups and so they ran a bunch of tests they did free t four free. T. Three T. S. H. Anti Peo-. Antibodies I'll seventeen. They did a stool analysis. Complete blood count liver enzymes. Albumin Billy Ruben. Cholesterol triglycerides blood urea nitrogen and created. And so they were looking at liver and kidney health lipids and the immune system so group to which was the group infected with blastocyst sisters ominous. They were treated with the medication. Nana's Oxyde for three days to eradicate the parasite and they were retested. Six weeks later to confirm that the parasite was gone and it was effective for everyone. So these are the study results. So T. S. H. levels were higher and groups one and two compared to the healthy group as expected

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"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

The Dr. Hedberg Show

08:19 min | 6 months ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

"So why does it reactivating some people? It's it's the same reason why people get infections and reactivation of all types of herpes viruses. The immune system is compromised. It can no longer keep up with the daily wear and tear and the stressors of life. This could be physical or emotional trauma chronic stress hormone imbalances gut problems poor diets other infections stressing the systems so herpes viruses are opportunistic. And so when your immune system is compromised they will activate reactivation occurs about twenty to twenty five percent of adults with the most severe symptoms though are in infants and reactivation can create a mono lake illness so can kind of mimic mononucleosis caused by the Epstein Barr virus so reactivation is going to cause fatigue fever swollen lymph nodes could get an enlarged liver or spleen encephalitis and mental changes now. Interestingly herpes six it seems to be more drawn to the brain and the nervous system. So it's mainly going to cause issues in those areas and H H v six. It does reside in the salivary gland. And so it's transmitted through saliva from person to person just like Epstein Barr virus so as far as testing goes it's a little tricky so antibody tests they can cross react with other viruses like cytomegalovirus. So you always WanNa Test Cytomegalovirus along with H H v six. She can be sure that your test is accurate and not just a cross reaction also I g G. Antibodies are positive for life. But if there's a fourfold increase in those levels above normal that can indicate reactivation and then. I G M. Antibodies traditionally just last for about seven weeks if those are elevated that could indicate reactivation but the research shows. I G M. Antibodies can also be elevated even when the virus isn't active also. I- GM antibodies. They usually don't elevate an adults who have reactivation of the virus so if you're testing for IGGI and GM. Antibodies you WANNA use I F. A. Testing rather than Elisa is just a better way to test. And then you can do. Pcr testing which is going to detect DNA of the virus in the blood. And that will confirm its presence. And if it's reactivated however that doesn't rule out active infection inside of a gland it only rules out presence in the blood so you could have a lot of activity in the fire. Roy Gland but not in the blood so as far as how he would approach herpes six. It's the same way we would approach Epstein Barr Cytomegalovirus and the other herpes viruses. So all of these compounds that we use are going to address the virus Very effectively and so. If you're treating her be six you're also addressing Epstein Barr and the other viruses so really the top compounds are going to be model Lauren. Quarter SAPS RESHI CR- Acumen burberry vitamin C. E. G. C. G. Black Cumin seed. Oil Quercetin RESVERATROL LICORICE BIKE. Hallin and an acetyl sistine or just something like life as glutathione since NEC is going to increase glutathione levels. Now I've said this before it's a mistake to just take these compounds or some of these compounds thinking that that's going to work. You have to figure out the reason why the virus has reactivated correct that and so if you just take these compounds yes. You will effectively target the virus and improve the immune system's ability to deal with it but that's not going to fix the problem and as soon as you stop taking them is just going to reactivate to the same level as it was previously so it doesn't take it doesn't do any good to take supplements for. Hvac six only if your working with someone in combination Liquor Functional Medicine Practitioner. Who's going to figure out why your immune system is compromised and why it can't control this virus see at the fix the underlying causes and that's a really important point so give you just a specific example. Let's say you have an intestinal parasite that's going to drive a t h two response. Which is going to suppress your T. h. One Immune responses and. It's your T. h. One Immune responses that control viruses. So if you just take a bunch of supplements and you don't figure out that you have this parasite in your gut and get rid of and you fix it. Then you stop taking the supplements the parasites still there. You're still going to have a suppress t h one response and the virus just reactivates and that's just one of many many examples of what could be going on so it could be gut related could be your hormones. It could be other infections. Not just in the gut but somewhere else in the body. Could be stress issues could be certain micronutrient deficiencies that are compromising your immune system. It could be your diet. Many many factors that need to be investigated to figure out why the viruses reactivated so in summary. Testing in adults is useful. Like I said if the I G G levels are greater than four times the normal range that can be effective if the testing shows that there could be chronic viral activity than I made target. The virus may not it just depends on the individual there might be other factors at play in the patient's body that we have to clean up first so to speak and sometimes we don't have to target the virus at all. Sometimes there's so many other factors going on in the patient's body that we correct and get back into balance and then the virus deactivates and the immune system can control it long term. And like I said. Before if we're addressing something like Epstein Barr were also addressing h h six at the same time so your functional medicine. Practitioner will be able to identify all these potential causes and get your immune system back in balance. And if you WANNA see your antibody levels drop quickly effectively. You've got to get these infections under control and I get excellent results when we do that when there is an infection connection. So if you go to Dr Hedberg Dot Com and search for herpes six. You'll see my article on this and I have links to all the studies that I quoted as well as everything that I talked about in this episode. Today we'll hope that was helpful. Take.

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"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

The Dr. Hedberg Show

07:36 min | 6 months ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

"Well. Welcome everyone to Functional Medicine Research on Dr Hedberg and today we'll be talking about human herpes virus six and Hashi motos disease. Herpes six is a herpes virus. Just like the Epstein Barr Virus Cytomegalovirus Chickenpox Herpes Virus H H v Seven H H v Eight. Herpes one herpes too. So it's a pretty big family of viruses and herpes six. There are two types of herpes six H v six eight an H. H V six. Be One hundred percent of human beings get infected with these six B strain of herpes six by the age of three. So we all had it. You get some fever. Diarrhea sometimes Arash in a rare cases. It can cause seizures and Steph Elijah's now. There are many infection connections to auto immune diseases like Hashimoto's disease and I'll be talking a little bit about some of the research on this connection so less is known about these six as drain of herpes six. It's on average about fifty percent of adults have the a strain and the ACE train is said to be the most problematic of the two types. And it's actually been found inside the thyroid gland of some people with Hashi motos disease so like any herpes virus h v. six can reactivate and that can happen in the thyroid gland the gut the brain the heart the kidneys the uterus. The lungs and this is usually going to happen later in life when the immune system is compromised kind of lake when somebody gets shingles. That's the chicken pox virus reactivating so a lot of strong connections with H H V. Six and a number of conditions. Some going to list them. Show grins syndrome. Lupus rheumatoid arthritis sarcoidosis Gi land bar a multiple sclerosis infertility chronic fatigue syndrome fibromyalgia the progression of HIV to AIDS epilepsy seizures immune suppression certain types of cancer. Kidney Liver and lung diseases. Heart disease and stuff. Elias colitis transplant recipient issues bone marrow suppression and Autoimmune Hepatitis. So many connections there with with many different illnesses and I mentioned the HIV progression to AIDS. And so it's interesting because viruses can actually activate each other called Trans Activation and there is research showing that Epstein Barr virus can trans activate herpes six and Herbie six can trans activate Epstein Barr virus. So one can become active and then a triggers the other to become active in this further strains the immune system. And we know if you've listened to any of my previous podcasts or read anything That I've put out of talked about Epstein Barr virus inside the thyroid gland and reactivating and so the Herbie six and V can activate each other inside the thyroid gland and that will create more inflammation and Dr Antibodies to the gland and cause more damage. So let's go through some of the research not gonNA go into deep dives into every single paper. Somebody give you the overview so this was Rizzo at all and twenty sixteen that he found a connection among natural killer cell activation thyroid. Antibodies and herpes. Six patients with harshly. Motos disease so they found that there was an increase in natural killer cells against the virus inside the thyroid gland and when natural killer cells storm into an area of the body. You're going to get a lot of inflammation and Rizzo found that this actually correlates with thyroid peroxidase and antiviral globulin antibodies. So if you're thinking about your. Antibodies wider high or why they're still high. Those could be driven by Herbie six. So the authors say that if you have an active H H v. Six infection in the thyroid gland. That's driving thyroid. Antibodies and increasing inflammation. This will increase damage to tissue the next study in two thousand twelve by Caselli at all. They found a high percentage of patients with our she. Motives disease have active. H H v six eight infections inside the thyroid gland. I remember the ace. Train is the most problematic of the to this increases inflammation in the thyroid gland and that drives the antibodies in the inflammation and then Caselli at all in twenty seventeen. She did a follow up five years later and she also found a con a another study showing a connection between her b. six and Hashimoto's disease same year. Two Thousand Seventeen Sultanova at all. They found a statistically significant higher level of persistent herpes infection. In those with Hashi motos disease compared to a control group now. Interestingly they also biopsy fiery tissue of some patients with Hashimoto disease and compare that to a control group with out Hashi motives disease and they found that forty one percent of those with hauch. Motorist disease had active herpes six infection in the thyroid gland versus only six percent in the control group of those who did not have Hashi motives disease. I'd like to take a quick moment to make you aware of some important resources that are available to you. The first is to make you aware that I not only see patients in my practice in Asheville North Carolina but I also have a virtual practice where I console with patients worldwide through telehealth. So it doesn't matter where you live in the world. We could consult through our telehealth software. The second resource is the resources page on my website. Where I list all of the supplements and products I use both personally and in my practice this.

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Healing from Trauma with Dr. Don Wood

The Addicted Mind Podcast

09:01 min | 7 months ago

Healing from Trauma with Dr. Don Wood

"Today. My guest is dawn would and he is going to talk about trauma and how we can heal trauma and how we can change it. I guess fix it. I don't know John. Why don't you hurt yourself and tell me about? It woke? Thank you for the invitation on being here. I'm really excited to share with you. What we'RE DOING. We've been getting a lot of success. Not only with trauma boy also addiction. What I sort of have found. And that's what really got me more interested is that what I was. Finding is that people will learn to live and manage and cope with trauma that sort of the model and what we have discovered is that we can eliminate it. We don't need to be dealing with these effects is creating glitches in air messages in the way our mind is working because if you read all the self-help books they'll tell you to stay present. Be In the moment but our minds don't work like that and once we understand how our minds are working we actually have created solutions to be able to get it to be able to stay present and then that stops those glitches in their messages. That's awesome. I think you know one of the things that so many people struggle with especially with addiction is a lot of people who have addiction is an issue have trauma in the background kind of flowing and causing havoc in their life. So I'm really excited about having this conversation so tell me more. I believe everybody did this. Dealing with addiction. And it's got to be if it's not ninety nine. Ninety nine plus have all had trauma. It's just the way our minds work. And so because our minds are experiencing and going through trauma on a looping basis. There's where the people they can't shut off this loop of information you see. Our subconscious mind operates in the present so ninety five percent of your brain is always present just like an animal mind is always present. Animals are one hundred percent present all the time we ninety five percent of our minds working just like that so when we have traumatic events and experiences in our lifetime those are recorded into memory different than just regular experiences. So if I asked you for example can you tell me what you ate dinner last night? Yeah I can tell you what I had Chicken and rice chicken and rice when I asked you that even though I can't see you you looked up and you probably saw pictures right of what you ate the chicken and the rice or where you were. That's so crazy. Yes my is totally looked up and I recalled and then came back down and then I answered the Yes exactly. That just happened so you accessed information about something that happened to you last night. Now because last night wasn't threatening disturbing that was recorded and stored in memory as a fairly low resolution file. Now had that been threatening or disturbing. Your mind would recorded that differently. All your senses would be heightened. A hearing sight sound all that kind of stuff would be then intensified so it stores it in what I call high definition high resolution. And this is where the glitch comes in if you're mine for whatever reason goes back into memory and sees the images that were stored about those traumatic events. When is it think those events are actually happening? Right so doesn't make sense that your mind would create a response to a threat but it's not a threat it's memory about a threat and so if you have constantly your nervous system being dish regulated like that and you're constantly feeling this fear or anger whatever it's creating. The purpose of fear is to escape a threat. The purpose of anger is to attack a threat. So if you think about something that happened to you ten years ago and you feel fear. It's an error message. Your mind is calling for an action. An action about something. That happened ten years ago. That makes sense. Yeah totally so that said goes a lot to the the idea that we store the trauma in the body which to me is a evolutionary advantage. Sometimes right if you remember a threat it could save you when you have that threat again but if it's not in the right way becomes debilitating guess exactly so what's happening is the high resolution. Data is constantly being activated creating a physiological response. Right fighter flight right and as going up. That's an emergency management system designed to protect you but for most people as become an operating system. It's on almost all the time right. And so my wife grew up in a traumatic household and she ended up burning out her thyroid. She has Hashimoto's and that was because she was constantly producing cortisol right and so if that's happening all the time it's going to have an effect physically now. My wife didn't get into drugs and alcohol right but a lot of people who have dealt with that kind of trauma the only way they can stop that loop even temporarily is to use a drug or alcohol and then that temporarily stops the pain. The mind will do anything to avoid pain. It will try to protect you so we start. Our Organization is five performance institute. We start off with the premise. That there's nothing wrong with anybody. There's nothing wrong with anybody's mind. Your mind is being affected by events and experiences throughout your lifetime which is constantly acting nervous system. And you couldn't not do it so when I work with people and Addiction. I say that this is not about your character. Willpower strengths are morals. This is basically how your mind works. How your brain has been developed to protect you so if you have this high resolution data stored and your mind constantly is activating it. Then what happens is is that you create a response and the response could be. I take a drink. I take drug. Then we have also second memory system procedural memory and procedural memory is based on the Basil Ganglia learning how to adapt to its environment. So if you go out of your way to keep doing something over and over you're training your brain to build a code view to protect you just like the animal mind does and so. I believe what's actually happened in an addiction that you've had emotional pain from trauma and because you repeated a particular resource to stop the pain. You built a code that your mind then uses to keep you out of pain but it's an error message your mind thinks there's something to do with that substance in your survival right. Okay that makes sense so let me just make sure I understand what you're saying. So we have trauma it gets stored in our body. I guess what you're saying which actually stored in memory but then the body is actually getting the respond so the way I explained it is think of the brain or the mind as the computer. The body is the printer right. Okay okay so we have that traumatic memory and then it pops up and we have that response that bodily response and the mind sends a signal to the body to do something right urine threat. You know you need to fight or you need to flee and you can use I guess a substance or behavior to flee or you can get angry to fight even though in the present moment that threat is not even there exactly. And we're stuck in that over and over again and looping so my daughter had the same thing my daughter had we found out when she was fourteen she had crowns and then when she was sixteen she told us about some sexual abuse she had when she was between six and eight. The we didn't know about and so that's where she was responding. So what I say is if we have UNRESOLVED TRAUMA. We create inflammation in the body. The inflammation is a response to trauma. Inflammation is basically a pause. The body is basically going into a pause mode developing a hardened membrane in it sells to protect the integrity of the system. We don't want allow anything to penetrate that cell right so nothing's getting into the cell but nothing's getting out of the cell so the cell danger response is a temporary measure to protect the system. The problem is is if the memory keeps looping. The cell dangerous bond stays active right. Okay so you stay in this constant state of inflammation because the mind is thinking that the trauma is still active even though it happened ten years ago right and can this be like low level street when you talk about trauma. Can this be like a low level trauma? Yes so I call those big T. Trauma or small T. Trauma but I call those emotional

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Japan does not expect cancellation notice from Olympic panel, minister says

Morning Edition

00:37 sec | 8 months ago

Japan does not expect cancellation notice from Olympic panel, minister says

"Meanwhile Japan and now has over a thousand reported cases of corona virus but the country's Olympics minister says she doesn't expect the summer's games there to be canceled Abigail Leonard has more from Tokyo minister Seiko Hashimoto said the topic of cancellation didn't even come up at the latest meeting with the international Olympic committee so she thinks the games will go forward as planned in July one Olympic organizer has said a final decision must be made by may losing the game to be economically devastating the country has been preparing for the last seven years and has already spent an estimated twenty six billion

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Japan Olympic Minister: Games could be held any time in 2020

The Takeaway

00:31 sec | 8 months ago

Japan Olympic Minister: Games could be held any time in 2020

"The corona virus outbreak may force Japan to push back the Tokyo games from July the country's Olympic minister Seiko Hashimoto seem to hint at that possibility anyway when she said there was nothing in writing to stop the country from hosting the games later in the year Hashimoto told parliament that the international Olympic committee has the right to cancel the game's only if they're not held in twenty twenty in response the I. O. C. promptly said the Olympics would open July twenty fourth as scheduled the Paralympics are due to be held a month

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Japan Olympic Minister: Games could be held any time in 2020

AP News Radio

00:45 sec | 8 months ago

Japan Olympic Minister: Games could be held any time in 2020

"Seiko Hashimoto says the contract to hold the games only specifies it has to be held during twenty twenty from Switzerland international Olympic committee chair Thomas Bach was vague in talking about timing the hire seo remains are fully committed to the to where the success of the Olympic Games said folk your twenty twenty box as a task force is looking into the impact of the corona virus and the games I would like to encourage all the athletes to continue their preparation for the Olympic games Tokyo twenty twenty with the great confidence and with form steam former IOC president Dick pound told the AP a decision about the Olympics probably has to be made in the next several months I'm at Donahue

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"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

The Dr. Hedberg Show

15:35 min | 8 months ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on The Dr. Hedberg Show

"And now back to the show. So let's hope that puts that aside so now we can move on and answer the question does I. Nine caused hashing bodos disease or doesn't make Hashi motives disease worse. So let's dig into the Research DR Congo at all. Nineteen ninety-four evaluated thyroid health. He measured TSE H. and thyroid antibodies in one thousand sixty one adults living and five coastal areas of Japan and Condo. At allstate quote these results indicated that number one the prevalence of hypothyroidism in iodine sufficient areas may be associated with the amount of iodine ingested number. Two hypothyroidism is more prevalent and marked in subjects. Consuming further. Excessive amounts of iodine and number three excessive intake of iodine should be considered a causative factor of hypothyroidism and chronic thyroiditis. In these areas an so chronic thyroiditis is. Hashi motives disease so this was very clear that higher intakes of iodine cause hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's disease and then in another paper by Condo at all. He analyzed four thousand one hundred and ten healthy people for thyroid dysfunction and they did T. S. H. thyroid antibodies and urinary iodine. They were all in the city of Sapporo in this was in a northern Japanese city where iodine intake high and the authors state quote the prevalence of unsuspected hyperthyroidism as defined by suppress T. S. H. Values was point. Six one percent of which sixty four percent was diagnosed as graves disease which is hyperthyroidism the prevalence of unsuspected hypothyroidism as evidence by super normal. T. S. H. Was Point six eight percent for males and three point. One three percent for females with an age related increase of those with hypothyroidism forty. Five point five percent were auto antibody positive meeting the head. Hashing motos disease and then this study. It also required that. The subjects restrict their iodine intake and Kono found the following quote when iodine intake was restricted for six to eight weeks for hypothyroid subjects the elevated T H and thyroid. Globulin and low. Free t four were reversed in the auto antibody negative but not in the antibody positive group. So if they didn't have how she motos their thyroid. Numbers return to normal. If they did of how she motos they did not return to normal. This study provides further information on the prevalence of thyroid dysfunction and autoimmune thyroid diseases and an iodine sufficient area. In addition it suggests that more than half of the patients with unsuspected hypothyroidism were negative for auto antibodies and that. The excessive iodine intake. Baby involved in causing latent hypothyroidism. So let's look at the connection between adding iodine to the food. Supply to eliminate iodine deficiency. And how this impacts the prevalence of Hashimoto's disease and so countries will add I into the food supply usually to salt to eliminate iodine deficiency and so. They're observing. What happens to the population at large when I assign is added to the food supply so Zoey at all Published two papers on this and this is in Greece and in the first papers are we at all conclude it conclusions silent. Iodine prophylaxis has resulted in the elimination of iodine deficiency in Greece and this has been accompanied by an increase in the prevalence of autoimmune thyroiditis. So in Greece they added iodine to the food supply. Hashimoto's disease rates increased it worked to eliminate iodine deficiency but there was a big side effect and then. Zoe at all in a follow up paper a quote at Diagnosis Tpao. Antibodies were positive in twenty-five children or eighty six percent of the subjects and they became positive and all children during follow-up Fireeye Globulin. Antibodies were positive and seventeen children fifty nine percent and became positive and three more children. Both antibody types increased by the end of the observation period regarding thyroid function. Seven children at diagnosis had sub clinical hypothyroidism. That persisted and four. More children develop sub clinical hypothyroidism during the study period. Only five of these children had positive thyroid. Antibodies there was an increase in. Tsa so that at the end of the study all children had a T. S. H. greater than two point five but none developed hypothyroidism so in conclusion after the elimination of iodine deficiency of northwestern Greece. The development of autoimmune thyroiditis appears to be a persistent and progressive phenomenon. Now let's go to the country of Turkey so doctor. Bassin Mir at all quote in conclusion iodine supplementation and Turkey has resulted in the elimination of iodine deficiency in the eastern Black Sea region and this has been accompanied by an increase in the prevalence of autoimmune thyroiditis and thyroid dysfunction and now in Slovenia Gabar Chac at all studied the effects of iodine fortification of table salt between nineteen fifty three to two thousand nine in Slovenia and they found that the incidence of Hashi Motos thyroiditis more than doubled after iodine was added table. Salt Camargo at all studied the effects of nine fortification in a population in Sao Paulo Brazil. From nine hundred ninety eight to two thousand three table salt in Brazil was increased to forty two hundred milligrams per kilogram concentration for this five year period and the prevalence of chronic autoimmune thyroiditis was analyzed. They looked at T. S. H. free t four TPAO. Antibodies urinary concentration and thyroid volume. The authors found that the rate of chronic autoimmune thyroiditis was sixteen point nine percent compared to a previous rate of nine point. Four percent so before iodine fortification. Nine point. Four percent had Hashimoto's after iodine fortification. Sixteen point nine percent so there was an increase their so Brazil actually cut their the amount of iodine salt after figuring this out so in conclusion quote. Five years of excessive iodine intake. By the Brazilian population may have increased prevalence of chronic autoimmune thyroiditis and hypothyroidism and subject genetically predisposed to thyroid autoimmune diseases. That's a really key. Point appropriate screening for early detection of thyroid. Dysfunction may be considered during excessive nutritional iodine intake now. Does this mean that we shouldn't fortify food supply with iodine so pasta sue at all They published the paper and they do not believe so that we should avoid fortification just because thyroid auto immunity increases and so they say that the benefits of correcting I assign deficiency outweigh the risks from a large population perspective. That's kind of another debate But I am nine is not just important for thyroid function. It's important for other parts of the body other processes and so. Ideally you do want to correct iodine deficiency. But we're talking about today is does I- Adine 'cause trigger or make Hashimoto's disease worse and so Pasta sue states it seems that both item deficiency and iodine excess should be avoided because of increased morbidity might be induced iodine prophylaxis and treatment programs remain even nowadays important for iodine deficiency correction but follow up over time and continues control of Iodine. Intake must be sustained although iodine induced thyroid auto immunity in the current insufficient environment is of scientific interest. It seems that it is transient and or sub clinical phenomenon thus the suspicion for increased prevalence of iodine induced thyroiditis and previously iodine. Deficient areas should not be held in any case as an argument against supplementation of these areas. So things change though since we as clinicians cannot afford to have even a single patient have an adverse event from iodine supplementation. So there's a lot more of the story on an individual basis and those with hashing motives disease so let's answer the question. How do we as clinicians determine whether or not it's safe to use iodine supplementation or not in our patients? We do have a study. That answers this question and this was a study by caustic at all. The researchers added potassium iodide alone or in combination with inflammatory cytokines and that was interferon gamma to human thyroid cells. And then they measured thyroid. Globulin and anti inflammatory marker cold. I came one. So they found that the combination of iodide plus the inflammatory cited kind interferon gamma resulted in a much greater inflammatory response in thyroid cells and a decrease in thyroid globulin compared to just died alone. So basically this means that if a patient has excessive inflammation inflammatory effects of the iodide on thyroid cells will be amplified. This would result in increased thyroid antibody levels and greater damage to the thyroid gland as well as hypothyroidism. So the key point here is that patients should work with a functional medicine practitioner. Who can help them? Identify all of the underlying causes of inflammation get that inflammation under control before supplementing with Dine? If they have Hashimoto's disease so if you're inflamed as noted in the above study iodine supplementation will increase inflammation in thyroid gland increase thyroid. Antibodies and suppressed function. So if we were to look at these population based studies the the people that got Hashi Motors from iodine increased. Iodine in the food. Supply Number One. Of course they would've had to have a genetic predisposition but also they probably had they probably weren't flames for a variety of reasons and that's not something that's taken into account so what are some of the causes of inflammation in Hashimoto's disease. There's many many to list because anything that's stressful to the body can cause inflammation so it can be things like infections like Epstein Barr Virus Herpes Simplex Virus H. Pylori your Siniya Central Politica food sensitivities gluten and dairy CEAC disease any kind of gut dysfunction despite osas yeast overgrowth parasites chronic stress adverse childhood experiences increase inflammation as an adult micronutrient deficiencies vitamin D Selenium Zinc Glutathione deficiency environmental toxins and metals like mercury. So just need to understand that. It's not a matter of your deficient in iodine. Eighty to start supplementing with it. If you have Hashi motives disease you want to be sure that the your inflammation is under control. I so that you can avoid these risk factors so in conclusion. Let's just go through some key points and a lot of this is for the the people that are patients that are listening. Don't increase consumption of iodine rich foods or supplement with iodine until you have identified all sources of inflammation in your body and corrected those sources of inflammation and reduced inflammation and that can be tested through something like a highly sensitive c reactive protein arith- recite sedimentation rate the complete blood count can give some indicators of inflammation and so as noted in the caustic at all study if you have inflammation you're a greater risk for increasing antibody levels potential even triggering. Hashimoto's if you don't have it and increasing destruction of valuable fiery tissue number two once you have your Hashi motives disease and inflammation under control. You can consider increasing consumption of iodine rich foods or taking a supplement with about.

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"hashimoto" Discussed on KGO 810

KGO 810

13:25 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on KGO 810

"To coast to coast AM on K G O eight ten. So Lynn, Vincent. I interrupted you before the break. We you're about to tell me about the Japanese commander a little bit. Yes, commander Hashimoto Lieutenant Commander Moto. Saying we tried to present the Japanese point of view in a sympathetic way. Meaning that they were acting out of their sincere, conscience and conviction. And so we were able to make great use of commander Hashimoto's. Well, it was a memoir sorts that he published after the war. He I should nineteen fifty two in Japanese language, and it was later published by Henry Holt in the fifties here in America English, and it was really an examination of Japanese submarine warfare in World War Two that written from commander hush motives when view, and there was a chapter on devoted to Indianapolis that because we were looking at the larger Pacific war, isn't it and the end of World War Two in general. We were able to really develop his personality a lot. He was a commander who cared for his men. He was the commander who was very very frustrated with the state of technology on Japanese submarines and really against protocols at the time because Japanese had a ferry autocratic top-down military. He went around banging on doors asking for radar and more technologies for his submarines because Japanese submarine didn't have radar right up until. Till the end of the war. And so he was very frustrated because he was seeing a lot of his brother subcommanders, go down too, salty graves for lack of technology. Do is they're carrying you had a wife he had three sons and eventually in addition to his book, which was called sunk. We were also able to interview his granddaughter and gets even more information about his later life after the war. Well, as we'll find out a little bit later he was kind of ticked off because the US navy. I mean, the took the extraordinary step of having him testify at a court martial for captain McVay. And then they didn't really want to hear his version of of how things went, but we'll circle back around that Sarah. I wanna get to the moments right after these torpedo slam into the side of the Indianapolis chaos breaks out. You know, we we heard that clip from Robert Shaw and the movie jaws saying that no signal was sent the distress signal. Not exactly true. But sorta true why don't you pick up the story there? Tell us described those next couple of chaotic moments after the torpedoes hit. Sure. Well, it was just after midnight. So, you know, the moon was behind clouds it had been an intermittent cloudy night. And so, and that was part of the reason why you know, I don't know if it'd be would say it's lucky for Shimon. Obey the clouds, just part. The moon came out for just a moment enough for him to see the the ship. And so, you know, after it was struck the power went out with the second torpedo. And so there was no power on the ship. They couldn't communicate over the first MC the PA from the sound system. And so there was no one to say abandoned ship over the speakers. There was no one to tell people to report to battle stations. They had to pass that for mouth-to-mouth. Well, this is a six hundred ten foot long ship the great big ship. So with the chaos happening and the ship thinking in twelve minutes, you have to magin that compartments or flooding incredibly quickly. You know, the ship is starting to tilt I to the star bird. And then it goes down by the bow. So men are being trapped inside the ship. Unable to fix scape from their compartments and Linden mentioned before they believe about three hundred men went down with the. Ship and even further to this because there wasn't any direct command able to be broadcast to the men people started abandoning ship. Very shortly after the ship was torpedoed all the way until you know, men went down with her and were able to escape so these men were spread out for over a mile and a half is what they believe. And you know, those who went down on our went off on the starboard side, the low side, they would have been with more of the supplies. You know, there were only twelve rafts that they believe got off the ship, but no standard protocol at that time was to go off high side, the portside. Well, the majority of the men went off that side, and there was no supplies. So they weren't in rafts. They were somewhere in life jacket, some were holding onto flotsam that they could find in the water as long as they could until they could get to someone who could help them, you know, a fellow shipmate or whomever and others. Just swim until a sailor would pass away. And then there buddy would help them take the life jacket off the dead sailor and put it on them. I mean, this was incredibly chaotic so scary. These are sixteen seventeen eighteen year olds that had just got on the ship. Not some of them not even three weeks or a month earlier, you know, they just went on board right before the last mission hadn't really gone through any drills yet. Some didn't know how to swim and they're just thrown into the middle of the Pacific at midnight. It's pitch black. They're covered in fuel oil because in you know, in an effort to save the ship at the last moment, we read Bain actually released the fuel into the water. And so this is very very thick oil that can only be transferred with heat. So it's like tar on these men, and they can't tell anybody is. They can barely breathe. They're swallowing or vomiting there at this point. They're trying to stay alive some have injuries, and they won't last much longer. You know, they they say that those who had injuries didn't really make it past the first day. But the men who were able to escape without injuries. We're still suffering from the early stages of dehydration because of vomiting oil. So no one's in really great shape. You know by the time. The sun comes up the first morning, but they're very optimistic that rescue is going to come because they believe there's a ship in the Philippines waiting for their arrival. At there wasn't you know, there were attempts to get a signal out that just didn't go, I guess, they they weren't successful. Exactly. I guess within a couple of days, it becomes clear that no one's coming or they're coming. They're they're going to have a hard time finding it. Because as as you describe in the book, they're spread out all over the place, and these big waves are pushing the group's further and further apart, right? Lynn, maybe you wanna talk about that a little bit in this context. There's incredible acts of heroism that you described from some of these sailors who are doing their best to help everybody else. And then at the same time there are some incredibly selfish acts of brutality that happened as well. Well, that's right. There were incredible acts of heroism, and as you mentioned, and as Sarah mentioned the currency. They move at about one mile an hour in that area. And they also move in these sort of giant Eddie or or world if you will. And so two men that would be together in the morning could be a mile apart by afternoon and all the time these twelve fits well some days, it's it's clear as glass as on the day of the rescue. But some days they're these twelve foot swells along with these currents. So over time over the course of the five nights and four days the men become spread out over a twenty five mile area. And one of the rescue pilots later wrote that from altitude rescue plane looking down on a situation like that. The head of one man would be the size of a human hair seen in cross section diameter from across the room. So basically they were invisible, and you mentioned acts of heroism acts of cowardice one one real hero was captain parts. He was the commander of the marine detachment that was aboard the ship and the largest swimmer group in the water see that as Sarah mentioned the men in the water were spread out initially over a mile and a half. And then they just got further and further apart with those currents, the largest group that had nothing but life jackets was about four hundred men and captain park was in that group, and he really spent twenty four hours a day trying to keep the men together the only resource that that group of men had the sides their life jackets, which not even all of them had life jacket. With a single line that was about one hundred feet long. And so they formed that line into a circle and the men were to tie themselves to the line, and captain park would help the men that didn't have life jackets and several times he would get a life jacket from the dead sailor. And then give it to another man who needed a life jacket, and he did this numerous times, and he would round up the stragglers and encourage everybody until finally on the third day. He succumbed to hallucinations. And and he died, and when he died that group became very desperate because they thought. Wow. If this brave man can't make it. How are we all gonna make? And then in terms of cowardice you had precisely the opposite happening with with some men being selfish. Some men even officers taking a place on a raft. For example, when there were wounded men who needed the place worse. There was also in some of the wrath groups they had some supplies, and there was hoarding up supplies and and water, especially. Yes. I was thinking as hearing these stories even without the injuries and the terrible burns. And the the fact they have no water supplies. They're out there exposed to the elements for days, they have no water. And after days, they're just going crazy. And then you know, you have to deal with the sharks. That's the that's the terror that most of us know about because of the movie, and apparently that is not exaggerated not not by much anyway. Sarah. Maybe you wanna talk about that part of the story. Not at all. I mean, you know, the shark population in the Pacific at the time was much more concentrated, and from the reports from the survivors, you know, there were hundreds of sharp circling them at any given time, and you know, they would there would be frenzied attacks. And I think, you know, linen. I both heard. Tend to stories of just men and yes, having their buddy right next to them taking you know, and they they didn't know who the sharks were going to attack. There was not a real rhyme or reason to it. And so they were always in fear and one of those heroic stories was where there were about fifteen men on a floater net. And those are the kind of nets that had the court pieces throughout the net to keep it afloat and men were spread out on this and just this huge frenzy of sharks attacked, and there was nothing left. And so reports like this were coming in that, you know, and even all the way until rescue. I mean part of the rescuers accounts. Because by the time that the rescue arrived, the men were really incoherent. They were able to tell or know what was happening by that point in the story. But you know, the rescuers are reporting that they're fighting off sharks are literally punching sharks in the face to be able to pull men aboard. Because. The shark attacks increased as I guess, you know, I don't know how much sharks realize things, but they said it seemed as they were pulling the men from the water the shirts the attacks increased. And yeah, this is I can't imagine how horrifying that'd be. I think seeing one shirt would give me a heart attack in imagine hundreds of them, you know, one of the sailors reported they were so thick they could walk on their backs from shark shark that we're underneath them just swimming there. They could have their stand on them. There's one account you have of a sailor who he sort of it becoming delirious these looking down seeing sharks thinking there's food. I'll just reach down and grab some food. Right. Yeah. Young infant by the name of John Wolfson. He actually took his socks off and thinking he was gonna wiggle toes as bait to lure the shark STAN and catch one, and then he kind of came to his senses at the last minute and realize, oh, this is probably not a good idea..

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"hashimoto" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

News Radio 1190 KEX

12:56 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

"Ninety AM. Depend on us K E. So Lynn, Vincent. I interrupted you before the break. We you're about to tell me about the Japanese commander a little bit. Yes, commander Hashimoto Lieutenant Commander Hashimoto. Saying we tried to present the Japanese point of view innocent pathetic way, meaning that they were acting out of their sincere, conscience and conviction. And so we were able to make great use of commander Hashimoto's. Well, it was a memoir sports that he published after the war. He's I had a shit in nineteen fifty two in Japanese language. And then it was later published by Henry Holt in the fifties here in America English, and it was really an examination of Japanese submarine warfare in World War Two, but written from Hashimoto's point of view. And there was a chapter on it devoted to Indianapolis that because we were looking at the larger Pacific war and the end of the World War Two in general. We were able to really develop his personality a lot. He was a commander who cared for his men. He was expanded who was very very frustrated with the state of technology on Japanese submarines and really against protocols at the time because Japanese had a ferry autocrats top-down military. He went around banging on doors asking for radar and more technology for his submarines because Japanese submarines didn't have radar right up and. Until the end of the war. And so he was very frustrated because he was seeing a lot of his brother subcommanders, go down to salty graves for lack of technology is they're carrying you had a wife he had three sons and eventually in addition to his book, which was called fun. We were also able to interview his granddaughter and gets even more information about his later life after the war. Well, as we'll find out a little bit later, he was cut ticked off because the US navy. I mean, they took the extrordinary step of having him testify at a court martial for captain McVay. And then they didn't really want to hear his version of of how things went, but we'll circle back around that Sarah. I wanna get to the moments right after these torpedoes slam into the side of the Indianapolis chaos breaks out of you know, we heard that clip from Robert Shaw in the movie jaws saying that no signal was sent no distress signal. Not exactly true. But sorta true why don't you pick up the story there? Tell us describe those next couple of chaotic moments after the torpedoes hit. Sure. Well, it was just after midnight. So, you know, the moon was behind clouds it had been intermittent cloudy night. And so, and that was part of the reason why you know, I don't know if it'd be would say it's lucky for hush Emoto, but the cloud just part. In the moon came out for just a moment enough for him to see the of this ship. And so, you know, after it was struck the power went out with the second torpedo. And so there was no power on the ship. They couldn't communicate over the first, you know, the PA from the sound system. And so there was no one to say abandoned ship over the speakers. There was no one to tell people to report to battle stations. They had to pass that from mouth-to-mouth. Well, this is a six hundred ten foot long ship the great big ship. So with the chaos happening and the ship thinking in twelve minutes, you have to imagine that compartments are flooding incredibly quickly. You know, the ship is starting to tilt I to the starboard. And then it goes down by the bow. So men are being trapped inside the ship. Unable to fix scape from their compartments and Linden mentioned before they believe about three hundred men went down with the ship. And even further to this. Because there wasn't any direct command able to be broadcast to the men people started abandoning ship. Very shortly after the ship was torpedoed all the way until you know, men went down with her, and we're able to escape so these men were spread out for over a mile and a half is what they believe. And you know, those who went down on our went off on the starboard side, the low side, they would have been with more of the supplies. You know, there were only twelve rafts that they believe got off the ship, but no standard protocol at that time was to go off high side, the portside. Well, the majority of the men went off that side, and there was no supplies. So they weren't in rats. They were somewhere even in life jacket some were holding onto flotsam that they could find in the water as long as they could until they could get to someone who can help them. You know, I fellow shipmate or whomever and others had to just. Swim until a sailor would pass away. And then everybody would help them take the life jacket off the dead sailor and put it on them. I mean, this was incredibly chaotic so scary. These are sixteen seventeen and eighteen year olds that had just got on the ship. Not some of them not even three weeks or a month earlier, you know, they just went on board right before the last mission hasn't really gone through any drills, yet some didn't know how to swim and they're just thrown into the middle of the Pacific at midnight. It's pitch black. They're covered in fuel oil because in an effort to save the ship at the last moment, we read Bain actually released the fuel into the water. And so this is very very sick oil that can only be transferred with heat. So it's like tar on these men, and they can't tell him anybody is they can barely breathe or swallowing or vomiting there at this point. They're trying to stay alive some have injuries and. They won't last much longer. You know, they say that those who had injuries didn't really make it past the first day. But the men who were able to escape without injuries were still suffering from the early stages of dehydration because of bombing this fuel oil. So no one's in really great shape. You know by the time. The sun comes up the first morning, but they're very optimistic that rescue is going to come because they believe there's a ship in the Philippines waiting for their arrival. And and there wasn't you know, there were attempts to get a signal out that just didn't go, I guess, they they they they weren't successful. Exactly. I guess within a couple of days, it becomes clear that no one's coming or if they're coming. They're they're going to have a hard time finding it. Because as as you describe in the book, they're spread out all over the place. And and these big waves are pushing the group's further and further apart, right? Lynn, maybe you wanna talk about that a little bit in this context. There's incredible acts of heroism that you describe from some of these sailors who are doing their best to help everybody else. And then at the same time there are some incredibly selfish acts of brutality that happened as well. Well, that's right. There were incredible acts of heroism as you mentioned. And as Sarah mentioned the currents. They move at about one mile an hour in that area. And they also move in these sort of giant Eddie's or or world if you will. And so two men that would be together in the morning could be a mile apart by afternoon and all the time these twelve fits well some days, it's it's clear as glass as on the day of the rescue. But some days they're these twelve foot swells along with these current. So over time over the course of the five nights and four days the men become spread out over a twenty five mile area. And one of the rescue pilots later wrote that from altitude a rescue plane looking down on a situation like that. The head of one man would be the size of a human hair seen in cross section diameter from across the room. So basically they were invisible, and you mentioned acts of heroism act of cowardice one one real hero was captain parts. He was the commander of the marine detachment that was aboard the ship and the largest swimmer group in the water. See the s era mentioned the the men in the water were spread out initially over amount and a half. And then they just got further and further apart with those currents, the largest group that had nothing but life jackets was about four hundred men and captain park was in that group, and he really. Spent twenty four hours a day trying to keep the men together the only resource that that group of men had the sides their life jackets, which not even all of them had life jackets with a single line that was about one hundred feet long. And so they formed that line into a circle and the men were to tie themselves to the line, and captain park would help the men that didn't have life jackets and several times he would get a life jacket from a dead sailor. And then give it to another man who needed a life jacket, and he did this numerous times, and he would round up the stragglers and encourage everybody until finally on the third day. He succumbed to hallucinations. And and he died, and when he died that group became very desperate because they thought. Wow. If this brave man can't make it. How are we all going to make? And then in terms of cowardice, you had precisely the opposite happening with with some men being selfish some men even officers taking place on a raft. For example, when there were wounded men who needed the place worse. There was also the in some of the wrath groups they had some supplies, and there was hoarding up supplies and and of water, especially. Yes. Oh, I was thinking as I'm hearing these stories even without the injuries and the terrible burns. And the the fact they have no water supplies. They're out there in exposed to the elements for days, they they have no water. And after days, they're just going crazy. And then you know, you have to deal with the sharks. That's the that's the terror that most of us know about because of the movie, and apparently that is not exaggerated not not by much anyway. Sarah. Maybe you wanna talk about that part of the story and not at all. I mean, you know, the shark population in the Pacific at the time was much more concentrated, and from the reports from the survivors, you know, there were hundreds of sharp circling them at any given time, and you know, they would there would be frenzied attacks. And I think you know, linen night. Both heard. Tend to stories of just men and yes, having their buddy right next to them taking you know, and they they didn't know who the sharks were going to attack. There was not a real rhyme or reason to it. And so they were always in fear and one of those heroin stories was where there were about fifteen men on a floater net. Those are the kind of nets that had the cork pieces throughout the net to keep it afloat and men were spread out on this and just this huge frenzy of sharks attacked, and there was nothing left in so reports like this were coming in that, you know, and even all the way until rescue. I mean part of the rescuers account because by the time that the rescue arrived, the men were really incoherent. They weren't able to tell or know what was happening by that point in the story. But you know, the rescuers are reporting that they're fighting off sharks are literally punching sharks in the face to be able to pull men aboard. Because. The shark attacks increased as I guess, you know, I don't know how much sharks realized things, but they said it seemed as they were pulling the men from the water the shirts attack increased. And this is I can't imagine how horrifying that'd be. I think seeing one shark would give me a heart attack and imagine hundreds of them, you know, one of the sailors reported they were so thick they could walk on their backs, you know, from shark shark that we're underneath them just swimming there. They could stand on them. There's one account..

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"hashimoto" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

11:42 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Seventy. KFI AM six forty. So Lynn, Vincent. I interrupted you before the break. We you're about to tell me about the Japanese commander a little bit. Commander Hashimoto Lieutenant Commander Hashimoto. We tried to present the Japanese point of view in a sympathetic way. Meaning that they were acting out of their sincere, concerts and conviction. And so we were able to make great use of commander Hashimoto's. Well, it was a memoir of sorts that he published after the war. I should in nineteen fifty two in Japanese language. And it was later published by Henry Holt in the fifties here in America in English, and it was really an examination of Japanese submarine warfare in World War Two, but written commander Hashimoto's point of view. And there was a chapter devoted Indianapolis. But because we were looking at the larger Pacific war and the end of World War Two in general. We were able to really develop his personality a lot. He was a commander who cared for his men. He was the commander who was very very frustrated with the state of technology on Japanese submarines and really against protocols at the time because Japanese had a very autocratic top-down military. He went around banging on doors asking for radar and more technologies because submarines because definitely marines didn't have radar right up until the end of the war. And so he was very frustrated because he was seeing a lot of his brother subcommanders, though, down to salty graves for lack of technology. They're carrying you had a wife. He had three sons. And eventually in addition to his book, which was called punk. We were also able to interview his granddaughter and get even more information about his later life after the war. Well, as we'll find out a little bit later. He was cut a ticked off because the US navy. I mean, the took the store step of having him testify at a court martial for captain McVay. And then they didn't really want to hear his version of of how things went, but we'll circle back around that Sarah. I wanna get to the moments right after these torpedo slam into the side of the Indianapolis chaos breaks out. You know, we we heard that clip from Robert Shaw movie jaws saying that no signal was sent those distress signal. Not exactly true. But sorta true why don't you pick up the story there? Tell us described those next couple of chaotic moments after the torpedoes hit. Sure. Well, it was just after midnight. So you know, the moon was behind clouds had been intermittent cloudy night. And so that was part of the reason why I don't know if it'd be would say it's lucky for Shimon obey the clouds just came out for just a moment enough for him to see the silhouette of the ship. And so after it was. Stuck in the power went out with the second torpedo. And so there was no power on the ship. They couldn't communicate over the first MC, you know, the the sound system. And so there was no one to say abandoned ship over the speakers. There was no one to tell people to report to battle stations. They had to pass that from to out. Well, this is a six hundred ten foot long ship the great big ship. So with the chaos happening and the ship thinking in twelve minutes, you have to magin that compartments or flooding incredibly quickly. You know, the ship starting to tilt I to the star bird. And then it goes down by the bell. So men are being trapped inside the ship unable to escape from their compartments and Linden mentioned before they believe about three hundred men went down with the ship and even further to this because there wasn't any direct command able to be broadcast to the men people started abandoning ship. Very shortly after the ship was torpedoed all the way until you know. Men went down with her and were able to escape so even were spread out for over a mile and a half is what they believe and those who went down on. I went off on the starboard side, the low side, they would have been with more of the supplies. You know, there were only twelve rafts that they believe got off the ship, but now standard protocol at that time was to go off high side portside. Well, the majority of the men went off that side, and there was no supply. So they weren't in rafts. They were somewhere and even in life, jackets, some we're holding onto flotsam that they could find in the water as long as they could until they could get to someone who could help them, you know, Philo shipmate, or whomever and others had to just swim until a sailor would pass away. And then everybody would help them take the life jacket off the dead sailor and put it on them. I mean, this was incredibly chaotic so scary. These are sixteen seventeen eighteen year olds that had just got on the ship. Not some of them, not even three weeks or a month. Earlier, you know, they just went on board right before the last mission hadn't really gone to any drills yet. Some didn't know how to swim and they're just thrown into the middle of the Pacific at midnight. It's pitch black. They're covered in fuel oil because in an effort to save the ship at the last moment. Read Bain actually released the fuel into the water. And so this is very very sick oil that can only be transferred with heat. So it's like tar on these men, and they can't tell anybody is. They can barely breathe. They're swallowing there vomiting there at this point. They're trying to stay alive some have injuries, and they won't last much longer. Yeah. They say that those who had injuries didn't really make it past the first day. But the men who were able to escape without injuries were still suffering from the early stages of dehydration because of oil. So no one's in really great shape. You know by the time. The sun comes up the first morning, but they're very optimistic that rescue is gonna come because they believe there's a ship in the Philippines waiting for their arrival. And there wasn't you know, there were attempts to get a signal out that just didn't go, I guess, they they they weren't successful. Exactly. I guess within a couple of days, it becomes clear that no one's coming or they're coming. They're they're going to have a hard time finding because as as you describe in the book, they're spread out all over the place, and these big waves are pushing the groups further and further apart, right? Lynn, maybe wanna talk about that a little bit in this context. There's incredible acts of heroism that you describe from some of these sailors who are doing their best to help everybody else. And then at the same time there are some incredibly selfish acts of retaliation that happened as well. Well, that's right. There were incredible acts of heroism. And as you mentioned that's mentioned the currents. They move it about one mile an hour in that area. And they also move in these sort of giant Eddie's or world if you will. And so two men that would be together in the morning could be a mile apart by afternoon and all the time these twelve at swell somedays, it's it's clear as glass on the data rescue. But some days they're these twelve twelve along with these currents. So over time over the course of the five nights and four days the men becomes spread out over a twenty five mile area. And one of the rescue pilots later wrote that from altitude rescue plain looking down on a situation like that the head of one man would be the size of a human hair seen in cross section redamaged or from across the room. So basically they were invisible, and you mentioned acts of heroism acts of cowardice one one real hero was captain parts. He was the commander of the marine detachment that was aboard the ship and the largest swimmer group in the water at their mentioned the men in the water were spread out initially, a reminder and a half. And then they just got further and further apart with this current the largest group that had nothing but life jackets was about four hundred men and captain park was in that group, and he really spent twenty four hours a day trying to keep them in together, the only resource that that group of men had besides their life jackets, which not even all of them had life jackets with a single line that was about one hundred feet long. And so they formed that line into a circle and the men were to tie themselves to the line and captain park would help them in that didn't have life jackets and several times. He would get a life jacket from a dead sailor. And then give it to another man who needed a life jacket, and he did this numerous times, and he would round up the stragglers and encourage everybody until finally on the third day, he succumb to hallucinations, and and he died, and when he died that group became very desperate because they thought. Wow. If this brave man can't make it. How are we all gonna make it? And then in terms of cowardice, you had precisely the opposite happening with with some men being selfish some men even officers taking place on a raft. For example, when there were wounded men who needed the place worse. There was also the in some of the rap groups they had some supplies, and there was hoarding up supplies and water, especially yes, what I was thinking as I'm hearing these stories even without the injuries in the. Terrible burns. And the fact they have no water supplies. They're out there exposed to the elements for days, they have no water. And after days, they're just going crazy. And then you know, you have to deal with the sharks. That's the that's the terror that most of us know about because of the movie, and apparently that is not exaggerated not not by much anyway. Sarah. Maybe you wanna talk about that part of the story. Yeah. Not at all. I mean, you know, the shark population in the Pacific at the time was much more concentrated, and from the reports from the survivors. Yeah. There were hundreds of sharks circling them at any given time, and you know, they would there would be frenzied attacks. And I think, you know, linen. I both heard. Tend to stories of just men and yes, having their buddy right next to them taking you know, and they they didn't know who the sharks were going to attack. There was not a real rhyme or reason to it. And so they were always in fear and one of those hairless stories was where there were about fifteen men on a floater net. And those are the kind of nets that had the cork pieces throughout the net to keep it afloat and men were spread out on this and just this huge frenzy of sharks attacked, and there was nothing left. An so reports like this were coming in that, you know, even all the way until rescue. I mean part of. The rescuers account because by the time that the rescue arrived, the men were really incoherent. They weren't able to tell or no what was happening by that point in the story. But you know, the rescuers are reporting that they're fighting off sharks are literally punching sharks in the face to be able to pull men aboard because the shark attacks increased as I guess, I don't know how much sharks realize things, but they said, it seemed as they were pulling the men from the water, the shirts and attack increased. And you know, this is I can't imagine how horrifying I think. sT one shirt would give me a heart attack in imagine hundreds of them, you know, one of the sailors reported they were so thick they could walk on their backs from shark shark that were underneath them just swimming there. They could have their stand on them..

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"hashimoto" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

12:57 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"W H A S. So Lynn, Vincent. I interrupted you before the break. We you're about to tell me about the Japanese commander a little bit. Yes, commander Hashimoto Lieutenant Commander Hashimoto. Was saying we tried to present the Japanese point of view in a sympathetic way. Meaning that they were acting out of their sincere conscious than conviction. And so we were able to make great use of commander Hashimoto's. Well, it was a memoir sorts that he published after the war. He's I should in nineteen fifty two in Japanese language, and it was later published by Henry Holt in the fifties here in America. I mean Bush, and it was really an examination of Japanese submarine warfare in World War Two that written from Mander Hashimoto's view. And there was a chapter on devoted to Indianapolis that because we were looking at the larger Pacific war, isn't it and the end of World War Two in general. We were able to really develop his personality a lot. He was a commander who cared for his men. He was expanded who was very very frustrated with the state of technology Japanese submarines and really against protocols at the time because Japanese had a ferry autocratic top-down military. He went around banging on doors asking for radar and more technologies for his submarines because Japanese submarines didn't have radar right up. Until the end of the war. And so he was very frustrated because he was seeing a lot of his brother says commanders go down too salty graves for lack of technology is they're carrying you had a wife he had three sons and eventually in addition to his book, which was called fun. We were also able to interview his granddaughter and gets even more information about his later life after the war. Well, as we'll find out a little bit later he was kind of ticked off because the US navy. I mean, the took the store dairy step of having him testify at a court martial for captain McVay. And then they didn't really want to hear his version of of how things went, but we'll circle back around that Sarah. I wanna get to the moments right after these torpedoes slam into the side of the Indianapolis chaos breaks out of you know, we we heard that clip from Robert Shaw and the movie jaws saying that no signal was sent those distress signal. Not exactly true. But sorta true why don't you pick up the story there? Tell us described those next couple of chaotic moments after the torpedoes hit. Sure. Well, it was just after midnight. So, you know, the moon was behind the clouds it had been intermittent cloudy night. And so and that was part of the reason why. Yeah. I don't know if it'd be would say it's lucky for hush. Obey the clouds parted in the moon came out for just a moment enough for him to see the silhouette of the ship. And so after it was struck in the power went out with the second torpedo. And so there was no power on the ship. They couldn't communicate over the first MC, you know, the the sound system. And so there was no one to say abandon ship over the speakers. There was no one to tell people to report to battle stations. They had to pass that from mouth to mouth. Well, this is a six hundred ten foot long ship the great big ship. So with the chaos happening and the ship sinking and twelve minutes, you have to imagine that compartments are flooding incredibly quickly. You know, the ship is starting to tilt I to the starboard. And then it goes down by the bow. So men are being trapped inside the ship unable to escape from their compartments. And. Linden mentioned before they believe about three hundred men went down with the ship and even further to this. Because there wasn't any direct command able to be broadcast to the men people started abandoning ship. Very shortly after the ship was torpedoed all the way until you know, men went down with her and were able to escape so these men were spread out for over a mile and a half is what they believe. And those who went down on our went off on the starboard side, the low side, they would have been with more of the supplies. You know, there were only twelve rafts that they believe got off the ship, but no standard protocol at that time was to go off the high side the portside. Well, the majority of the men went off that side, and there was no supplies. So they weren't in rafts. They were you know, somewhere even in life, jackets, some where holding onto flotsam that they could find in the water as long as they could until they could get to someone who can help. Them, you know, a fellow shipmate or whomever and others had to just swim until a sailor would pass away. And then everybody would help them take the life jacket off the dead sailor and put it on them. I mean, this was incredibly chaotic so scary. These are sixteen seventeen and eighteen year olds that had just got on the ship. Not some of them not even three weeks or a month earlier, you know, they just went on board right before the last mission hadn't really gone to any drills yet. Some didn't know how to swim and they're just thrown into the middle of the Pacific at midnight. It's pitch black. They're covered and fuel oil because in an effort to save the ship at the last moment, we kind of red vein actually released the fuel into the water. And so this is very very sick oil that can only be transferred with heat. So it's like tar on these men, and they can't tell anybody is. They can barely breathe. They're swallowing vomiting. There at this point. They're trying to stay alive some have injuries, and they won't last much longer. You know, they they say that those who had injuries didn't really make it past the first day, but the men who were able to escape without injuries. We're still suffering are from the early stages of dehydration because of bombing this fuel oil. So no one's in really great shape. You know by the time. The sun comes up the first morning, but they're very optimistic that rescue is gonna come because they believe there's a ship in the Philippines waiting for their arrival. At there wasn't you know, there were attempts to get a signal out that just didn't go, I guess, they they they weren't successful. Exactly. I guess within a couple of days, it becomes clear that no one's coming or if they're coming. They're they're going to have a hard time finding it. Because as as you describe in the book, they're spread out all over the place. And and these big waves are pushing the groups further and further apart, right? Lynn, maybe wanna talk about that a little bit in this context. There's incredible acts of heroism that you describe from some of these sailors who are doing their best to help everybody else. And then at the same time there are some incredibly selfish acts of brutality that happened as well. Well, that's right. There were incredible acts of heroism, and as you mentioned, and as you mentioned the currents they move at about one mile an hour in that area. And they also move in these sort of giant Eddie or or worlds if you will. And so two men that would be together in the morning could be a mile apart by afternoon and all the time these twelve fits well some days, it's it's clear as glass as on the day of the rescue. But some days they're these twelve foot swells along with these current. So over time over the course of the five nights and four days the men become spread out over twenty five mile area. And one of the rescue pilots later wrote that from altitude a rescue plane looking down on a situation like that. The head of one man would be the size of a human hair seen in cross section or diameter from across the room. So basically they were invisible, and you mentioned acts of heroism acts of cowardice one one real hero was captain park. He was the commander of the marine detachment that was aboard the ship and the largest swimmer group in the water see that s era mentioned the men in the water were spread out initially, a reminder and a half. And then they just got further and further apart with those currents, the largest group that had nothing but life jackets was about four hundred men and captain park was in that group, and he really spent twenty four hours a day trying to keep the men together the only resource that that group of men had the side, they're like jackets, which not even all of them had life jackets. With a single line that was about one hundred feet long. And so they formed that line into a circle and the men were to tie themselves to the line and captain park would help them in that didn't have life jackets and several times. He would get a life jacket from a dead sailor. And then give it to another man who needed a life jacket, and he did this numerous times, and he would round up the stragglers and encourage everybody until finally on the third day. He succumbed to hallucinations. And and he died, and when he died that group became very desperate because they thought. Wow. If this brave man can't make it. How are we all going to make it? And then in terms of cowardice you had precisely the opposite happening with with some then being selfish some men even officers taking place on a raft. For example, when there were wounded men who needed the place worse. There was also in some of the wrath groups they had some supplies, and there was hoarding up supplies and and water, especially yes, what I was thinking as a hearing these stories even without the injuries and the terrible burns. And the fact they have no water supplies. They're out there exposed to the elements for days, they they have no water and after. Days. They're just going crazy. And then you know, you have to deal with the sharks. That's the that's the terror that most of us know about because of the movie, and apparently that is not exaggerated not not by much anyway. Sarah. Maybe you wanna talk about that part of the story. Yeah. Not at all. I mean, you know, the shark population in the Pacific at the time was much more concentrated, and from the reports from the survivors, you know, there were hundreds of sharp circling them at any given time, and you know, they would there would be frenzied attacks. And I think, you know, linen. I both heard. Tend to stories of just men and yes, having their buddy right next to them taking you know, and they they didn't know who the sharks were going to attack. It was not a real rhyme or reason to it. And so they were always in fear and one of those heroin stories was where there were about fifteen men on a floater net knows where the kind of nets that had the cork pieces throughout the net to keep it afloat and men were spread out on this and just this huge frenzy of sharks hacked, and there was nothing left in so reports like this were coming in that, you know, and even all the way until rescue. I mean part of. The rescuers accounts. Because by the time that the rescue arrived, the men were really incoherent. They weren't able to tell or know what was happening by that point in the story. But you know, the rescuers are reporting that they're fighting off sharks are literally punching sharks in the face to be able to pull men aboard because the shark attacks increased as I guess, you know, I don't know how much sharks realize things, but they said it seemed as they were pulling the men from the water the shirts and the attack increased. And this is I can't imagine how horrifying be. I think saying one shirt would give me a heart attack in imagine hundreds of them, you know, one of the sailors reported they were so thick they could walk on their backs, you know, from shark shark that we're underneath them just swimming there. They could stand on them. There's one account you have of a sailor who he's sort of go becoming delirious..

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"hashimoto" Discussed on KNSS

KNSS

13:00 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on KNSS

"Eight seven and thirteen thirty k and s s. Selene vincent. I interrupted you before the break. We you're about to tell me about the Japanese commander a little bit. Yes, commander Hashimoto Lieutenant Commander Hashimoto. As I was saying, we tried to present the Japanese point of view in a sympathetic way. Meaning that they were acting out of their sincere conscience than conviction. And so we were able to make great use of commander Hashimoto's. Well, it was a memoir of sorts that he published after the war. I had a shit in nineteen fifty two in Japanese language, and it was later published by Henry Holt in the fifties here in America in English, and it was really an examination of Japanese submarine warfare in World War Two that written commander Hashimoto's point of view. And there was a chapter on it devoted to Indianapolis that because we were looking at the larger Pacific war, isn't it and the end of World War Two in general. We were able to really develop his personality a lot. He was a commander who cared for his men. He was expanded who was very very frustrated with the state of technology on Japanese submarines and really against protocols at the time because Japanese had a ferry autocratic top-down military. He went around banging on doors asking for radar and more technology for his submarines because Japanese submarines didn't have radar right up. Until the end of the war. And so he was very frustrated because he was seeing a lot of his brother subcommanders, go down to salty grave for lack of technology. Do they're carrying. They had a wife he had three sons and eventually in addition to his book, which was called sunk. We were also able to interview his granddaughter and gets even more information about his later life after the war. Well, as we'll find out a little bit later he was kind of ticked off because the US navy. I mean, the took the extraordinary step of having him testify at a court martial for captain McVay. And then they didn't really wanna hear his version of of how things went, but we'll circle back around that Sarah. I wanna get to the moments right after these torpedo slam into the side of the Indianapolis chaos breaks out. You know, we we heard that clip from Robert Shaw in the movie jaws saying that no signal was sent a distress signal. Not exactly true. But sorta true why don't you pick up the story there? Tell us described those next couple of chaotic moments after the torpedoes hit. Sure. Well, it was just after midnight. So, you know, the moon was behind clouds it had been intermittent cloudy night. And so that was part of the reason why. Yeah. I don't know if we would say it's lucky for Shimon. Obey the clouds parted in the moon came out for just a moment enough for him to see the silhouette of the ship. And so, you know, after it was struck in the power went out with the second torpedo. And so there was no power on the ship. They couldn't communicate over the first MC, you know, the the sound system. And so there was no one to say abandoned ship over the speakers. There was no one to tell people to report to battle stations. They had to pass that from mouth-to-mouth. Well, this is a six hundred ten foot long ship the great big ship. So with the chaos happening and the ship thinking twelve minutes, you have to magin that compartments are flooding incredibly quickly. You know, the ship is starting to tilt I to the starboard. And then it goes down by the bow. So men are being trapped inside the ship able to fix scape from their compartments. And I'm Linden mentioned before they believe about three hundred men went down with the ship and even further to this because there wasn't any direct command able to be broadcast to the men people started abandoning ship. Very shortly after the ship was torpedoed all the way until you know, men went down with her and we're able to escape so he's been were spread out for over a mile and a half what they believe. And you know, those who went down on our went off on the starboard side, the low side, they would have been with more of the supplies. You know, there were only twelve rafts that they believe got off the ship, but no standard protocol at that time was to go off high side, the portside. Well, the majority of the men went off that side, and there was no supplies. So they weren't in rafts. They were somewhere even in life jacket some were holding onto flotsam that they could find in the water as long as they could until they could get to someone. Who could help them, you know, a fellow shipmate or whomever and others had to just swim until a sailor would pass away. And then everybody would help them take the life jacket off the dead sailor and put it on them. I mean, this was incredibly chaotic so scary. These are sixteen seventeen eighteen year olds that had just got on the ship. Not some of them not even three weeks or a month earlier, you know, they just went on board right before the last mission hadn't really gone to any drills yet. Some didn't know how to swim and they're just thrown into the middle of the Pacific at midnight. It's pitch black. They're covered fuel oil because in an effort to save the ship at the last moment Lieutenant read Bain actually released the fuel into the water. And so this is very very sick oil that can only be transferred with heat. So it's like tar on these men, and they can't tell who anybody is they can barely breathe or swallowing. There vomiting there at this point. They're trying to stay alive some have injuries, and they won't last much longer. You know, they they say that those who had injuries didn't really make it past the first day, but the men who were able to escape without injuries. We're still suffering from the early stages of dehydration because of vomiting this fuel oil. So no one's in really great shape. You know by the time. The sun comes up the first morning, but they're very optimistic that rescue is gonna come because they believe there's a ship in the Philippines waiting for their arrival. And there wasn't you know, there were attempts to get a signal out that just didn't go, I guess, they they weren't successful. Exactly. I guess within a couple of days, it becomes clear that no one's coming or if they're coming. They're they're gonna have a hard time finding it. Because as as you describe in the book, they're spread out all over the place, and these big waves are pushing the group's further and further apart, right? Lynn, maybe wanna talk about that a little bit in this context. There's incredible acts of heroism that you describe from some of these sailors who are doing their best to help everybody else. And then at the same time there are some incredibly selfish acts of brutality that happened as well. Well, that's right. There were incredible acts of heroism, and as you mentioned, and as you mentioned the currents they move at about one mile an hour in that area. And they also move in these sort of giant Eddie or or world if you will. And so two men that would be together in the morning could be a mile apart by afternoon, and and all the time these twelve fits well some days, it's it's clear as glass as on the day of the rescue. But some days they're these twelve foot swells along with these currents. So over time over the course of the five nights and four days the men become spread out over a twenty five mile area. And one of the rescue pilots later wrote that from altitude a rescue plane looking down on a situation like that. The head of one man would be the size of a human hair seen in cross section or diameter from across the room. So basically they were invisible, and you mentioned acts of heroism acts of cowardice one one real hero was captain park. He was the commander of the marine detachment that was aboard the ship and the largest swimmer group in the water see that as Sarah mentioned, the the men in the water were spread out initially, a reminder and a half. And then they just got further and further apart with those currents, the largest group that had nothing but life jackets was about four hundred men and captain park was in that group, and he really spent twenty four hours a day trying to keep the men together the only resource that that group of men had besides their life lifejackets, which not even all of them had life jacket. It was a single line that was about one hundred feet long. And so they formed that line into a circle and the men were to tie themselves to the line and captain park would help them in that didn't have life jackets and several times. He would get a life jacket from a dead sailor. And then give it to another man who needed a life jacket, and he did this numerous times, and he would round up the stragglers and encourage everybody until finally on the third day. He succumbed to hallucinations. And and he died, and when he died that group became very desperate because they thought. Wow. If this brave man can't make it. How are we all going to make it? And then in terms of cowardice you had precisely the opposite happening with with some men being selfish. Some men even officers taking a place on a raft. For example, when there were wounded men who needed the place worse. There was also in some of the wrath groups they had some supplies, and there was hoarding supplies and and of water, especially yes. Oh, thinking as I'm hearing these stories even without the injuries and the terrible burns. And the the fact they have no water supplies. They're out there exposed to the elements for days, they have no water and after. Heard days. They're just going crazy. And then you know, you have to deal with the sharks. That's the that's the terror that most of us know about because of the movie, and apparently that is not exaggerated not not by much anyway. Sarah. Maybe you wanna talk about that part of the story. Yeah. Not at all. I mean, you know, the shark population in the Pacific at the time was much more concentrated, and from the reports from the survivors, you know, there were hundreds of sharp circling them at any given time, and you know, they would there would be frenzied attacks. And I think you know, linen night. Both heard. Tend to stories of just men and yes, having their buddy right next to them taking you know, and they they didn't know who the sharks were going to attack. There was not a real rhyme or reason to it. And so they were always in fear, and one of those heroines stories was where you know, there were about fifteen men on a floater net. And those are the kind of nets that had the cork pieces throughout the net to keep it afloat and men were spread out on this and just this huge frenzy of sharks attacked, and there was nothing left in so reports like this were coming in that, you know, and even all the way until rescue. I mean part of the rescuers accounts. Because by the time that the rescue arrived, the men were really incoherent. They weren't able to tell or know what was happening by that point in the story. But you know, the rescuers are reporting that they're fighting off sharks are literally punching sharks in the face to be able to pull men aboard because the show. Shark attacks increased as I guess, you know, I don't know how much sharks realized things, but they said it seemed as they were pulling the men from the water the shirts. Attack increased. And know, this is I can't imagine how horrifying that. It'd be I think saying one shark would give me a heart attack in the magin hundreds of them, you know, one of the sailors reported they were so thick they could walk on their backs from shark shark that were underneath them just swimming there. They could have stand on them. There's one account you have of a sailor who he of go becoming delirious..

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"hashimoto" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

KOA 850 AM

12:59 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on KOA 850 AM

"And weather station. KOA NewsRadio eight fifty AM and ninety four one FM. So Lynn, Vincent. I interrupted you before the break. We you're about to tell me about the Japanese commander a little bit. Yes, commander Hashimoto Lieutenant Commander Hashimoto. Saying we tried to present the Japanese point of view in a sympathetic way. Meaning that they were acting out of their sincere conscience than conviction. And so we were able to make great use of commander Hashimoto's. Well, it was a memoir of sorts that he published after the war. I had a in nineteen eighty two in Japanese language, and it was later published by Henry Holt in the fifties here in America in English, and it was really an examination of Japanese submarine warfare in World War Two, but written from Hashimoto's point of view. And there was a chapter on it devoted to Indianapolis that because we were looking at the larger Pacific war, isn't it and the end of World War Two in general. We were able to really develop his personality a lot. He was a commander who cared for his men. He was expanded who was very very frustrated with the state of technology on Japanese submarines and really against protocols at the time because Japanese had a very autocratic top-down military. He went around banging on doors asking for radar and more technology for his submarines because Japanese submarines didn't have radar right up. Until the end of the war. And so he was very frustrated because he was seeing a lot of his brother so commanders go down too, salty graves for lack of technology. Do they're carrying had a wife. He had three sons and eventually in addition to his book, which was called fun. We were also able to interview his granddaughter and get even more information about his later life after the war. Well, as we'll find out a little bit later, he was cut ticked off because the US navy. I mean, the took the extraordinary step of having him testify at a court martial for captain McVay. And then they didn't really wanna hear his version of of how things went, but we'll circle back around that Sarah. I wanna get to the moments right after these torpedo slam into the side of the Indianapolis chaos breaks out. You know, we we heard that clip from Robert Shaw in the movie jaws saying that no signal was sent distress signal. Not exactly true. But sorta true why don't you pick up the story there? Tell us described those next couple of chaotic moments after the torpedoes hit. Sure. Well, it was just after midnight. So, you know, the moon was behind clouds it had been intermittent cloudy night. And so and that was part of the reason why. Yeah. I don't know if it'd be would say it's lucky for Husham out. Obey cloudy, just parted in the moon came out for just a moment enough for him to see the silhouette of the ship. And so after it was struck the power went out with the second torpedo. And so there was no power on the ship. They couldn't communicate over the first, you know, the the sound system. And so there was no one to say abandoned ship over the speakers. There was no one to tell people to report to battle stations. They had to pass that mouth to mouth. Well, this is a six hundred ten foot long ship the great big ship. So with the chaos happening and ship sinking in twelve minutes. You have to imagine that compartments are flooding incredibly quickly. You know, the ship is starting to tilt I to the starboard. And then it goes down by the bow. So men are being trapped inside the ship. Unable to fix scape from their compartments. And you mentioned before they believe about three hundred men went down with the ship and even further to this because there wasn't any direct command able to be broadcast to the men people started abandoning ship. Very shortly after the ship was torpedoed all the way until you know, men went down with her and were able to escape so he's been were spread out for over a mile and a half what they believe. And you know, those who went down on our went off on the starboard side, the low side, they would have been with more of the supplies. You know, there were only twelve rafts that they believe got off the ship but standard protocol at that time was to go off high side, the portside. Well, the majority of the men went off that side, and there was no supplies. So they weren't in rafts. They were some weren't even in life jackets, some where holding onto flotsam that they could find in the water as long as they could until they could get to someone who. Who can help them, you know, fellow shipmate or whomever and others had just swim until a sailor would pass away. And then everybody would help them take the life jacket off the dead sailor. Put it on them. I mean, this was incredibly chaotic so scary. These are sixteen seventeen and eighteen year olds that had just got on the ship. Not some of them not even three weeks or a month earlier, you know, they just went on board right before the last mission hadn't really gone through any drills yet. Some didn't know how to swim and they're just thrown into the middle of the Pacific at midnight. It's pitch black. They're covered in fuel oil because in an effort to save the ship at the last moment, we kinda read Bain actually released the fuel into the water. And so this is very very sick oil that can only be transferred with heat. So it's like tar on these men, and they can't tell anybody is. They can barely breathe they're swallowing. It. Vomiting there at this point. They're trying to stay alive some have injuries, and they won't last much longer. You know, they say that those who had injuries didn't really make it past the first day. But the men who were able to escape without injuries were still suffering from the early stages of dehydration because of bombing this fuel oil. So no one's in really great shape. You know by the time. The sun comes up the first morning, but they're very optimistic that rescue is gonna come because they believe there's a ship in the Philippines waiting for their arrival. And there wasn't you know, there were attempts to get a signal out that just didn't go, I guess, they they they weren't successful. Exactly. I guess within a couple of days, it becomes clear that no one's coming or they're coming. They're they're going to have a hard time finding it. Because as as you describe in the book, they're spread out all over the place, and these big waves are pushing the group's further and further apart. Right. Lynn, maybe you want to talk about that a little bit in this context. There's incredible acts of heroism that you describe from some of these sailors who are doing their best to help everybody else. And then at the same time, there's some incredibly selfish acts of brutality that happened as well. Well, that's right. There were incredible acts of heroism, and as you mentioned, and as you mentioned the currents they move at about one mile an hour in that area. And they also move in these sort of giant Eddie's or or world if you will. And so two men that would be together in the morning could be a mile apart by afternoon and all the time these twelve that's well some days, it's it's clear as glass as on the day of the rescue. But some days they're these twelve foot swells along with these current. So over time over the course of the five nights and four days the men become spread out over a twenty five mile area. And one of the rescue pilots later wrote that from altitude I rescue plain looking down on a situation like that. The head of one man would be the size of a human hair seen in cross section or diameter from across the room. So basically they were invisible, and you mentioned acts of heroism acts of cowardice one one real hero was captain park. He was the commander of the marine detachment that was aboard the ship and the largest swimmer group in the waters. See the aspera mentioned the men in the water were spread out initially over a mile and a half. And then they just got further and further apart with those currents, the largest group that had nothing but life jackets was about four hundred men and captain park was in that group, and he really spent twenty four hours a day trying to keep the men together the only resource that that group of men had the sides their life jackets, which not even all of them had life jacket. It was a single line that was about one hundred feet long. And so they formed that line into a circle and the men were to tie themselves to the line, and captain park would help the men that didn't have life jackets and several times he would get a life jacket from a dead sailor. And then give it to another man who needed a life jacket, and he did this numerous times, and he would round up the stragglers and encourage everybody until finally on the third day. He succumb to hallucinations. And and he died, and when he died that group became very desperate because they thought. Wow. If this brave man can't make it. How are we all going to make it? And then in terms of cowardice you had precisely the opposite happening with with some them being selfish. Some men even officers taking a place on a raft. For example, when there were wounded men who needed the place worse. There was also the in some of the wrath groups they had some supplies, and there was hoarding up supplies and and water, especially. Yes. So I was thinking as a hearing these stories even without the injuries and the terrible burns. And the the fact they have no water supplies. They're out there exposed to the elements for days, they have no water and after. Days. They're just going crazy. And then you know, you have to deal with the sharks. That's the that's the terror that most of us know about because of the movie, and apparently that is not exaggerated not not by much anyway. Sarah. Maybe you want to talk about that part of the story. Not at all. I mean, you know, the shark population in the Pacific at the time was much more concentrated, and from the reports from the survivors, you know, there were hundreds of sharp circling them at any given time, and you know, they would there would be frenzied attacks. And I think you know, linen nine both heard. Tend to stories of just men and having their buddy right next to them taking you know, and they they didn't know who the sharks were going to attack. There was not a real rhyme or reason to it. And so they were always in fear and one of those heroin stories was where there were about fifteen men on a floater net knows where they're kind of nets that had the cork pieces throughout the net to keep it afloat and men were spread out on this and just this huge frenzy of sharks attacked, and there was nothing left. An so reports like this were coming in that, you know, and even all the way until rescue. I mean part of the rescuers accounts. Because by the time that the rescue arrived, the men were really incoherent. They weren't able to tell or know what was happening by that point in the story. But you know. The rescuers are reporting that they're fighting off sharks are literally punching sharks in the face to be able to pull men aboard because the shark attacks increased as I guess, you know, I don't know how much sharks realized things, but they said it seemed as they were pulling the men from the water the shirts. The attack increased. And you know, this is I can't imagine how horrifying that'd be. I think saying one shark would give me a heart attack. Imagine hundreds of them, you know, one of the sailors reported they were so thick they could walk on their backs, you know, from shark shark that were them just swimming there. They could stand on them. There's one account you have of a sailor who he sorta go becoming delirious..

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"hashimoto" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

02:51 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on 710 WOR

"Six eighty four seventy. So Lynn, Vincent. I interrupted you before the break. We you're about to tell me about the Japanese commander a little bit. Yes, commander Hashimoto Lieutenant Commander Hashimoto. I was saying we tried to present the Japanese point of view innocent pathetic way, meaning that they were acting out of their sincere, conscience and conviction. And so we were able to make great use of commander Hashimoto's. Well, it was a memoir source that he published after the war. He's I had a should in nineteen fifty two in Japanese language. And it was later published by Henry Holt in the fifties here in America. I mean Bush, and it was really an examination of Japanese submarine warfare in World War Two but written from commander Hashimoto's point of view. And there was a chapter on it devoted to Indianapolis that because we were looking at the larger Pacific war and the end of World War Two in general. We were able to really develop his personality a lot. He was a commander who cared for his men. He was expanded who was very very frustrated with the state of technology on Japanese submarines and really against protocols at the time because deputies had a very autocratic top-down military. He went around banging on doors asking for radar and more technology for his submarines because Japanese submarines didn't have radar right up and. Until the end of the war. And so he was very frustrated because he was seeing a lot of his brother so commanders go down too, salty graves for lack of technology. Do they're carrying you had a wife he had three sons and eventually in addition to his book, which was called fun. We were also able to interview his granddaughter and get even more information about his later life after the war. Well, as we'll find out a little bit later, he was cut ticked off because the US navy. I mean, the took the extrordinary step of having him testify at a court martial for captain McVay. And then they didn't really want to hear his version of of how things went, but we'll circle back around that Sarah. I wanna get to the moments right after these torpedoes slam into the side of the Indianapolis chaos breaks out of you know, we we heard that clip from Robert Shaw in the movie jaws saying that no signal was sent those distress signal. Not exactly true. But sorta true why don't you pick up the story there?.

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Hawaii seafood wholesalers fear Congress could block mainland exports

Jay Sekulow

02:52 min | 2 years ago

Hawaii seafood wholesalers fear Congress could block mainland exports

"Wholesalers supermarkets chefs and restaurants across the continental us those little different levels and different products all toll give us a small profitability our industries very tough seafood wholesalers nationwide average three percent profit in a year but hawaii seafood wholesalers fear congress is about to pull the plug on that business both the senate and house have considered legislation call the billfish conservation act that would stop exports of hawaii caught billfish to the mainland it's a major part of what we export out on the state florida representative darren soto says the goal is to preserve fishing and pacific waters and prevent largescale commercial fishing of bill but federal regulators say pacific billfish stocks are managed effectively and don't need added protection hawaii seafood wholesalers say the measures don't make sense there's a lot of people behind this wildcard resource that we have access to that away they all hurt they all suffer that hurts the us flag fishermen here part of the revenue they're counting on their yearly sales comes from billfish the senate version of the bill passed a committee that included senator bryan shots then the full senate the house measure was just heard by the house subcommittee on natural resources go ice congressional delegation has not offered comments on either bill jim mendoza hawaii news now boy that former maui county democratic party chair troy hushing multo to the house seat previously occupied by former representative joe sookie sookie resigned last month as part of a settlement over sexual harassment complaints against him hashimoto was maui county's democratic party chair for four years learning more of on a deadly mid air engine explosion on boorda's southwest airlines flight the latest on what happened next check in with our daniel tucker of four car crash just clear here on one of the freeway was on the left shoulder certainly slow the traffic down in the fort shafter flats is starting to move his less congested up on the viaduct and coming into honolulu the we've got stop and go traffic from the city and county traffic management center i'm danielle tucker we'll be back after this stuck in traffic we've got the answer no no incidents reported the last accident was on the lua freeway westbound at the halava interchange and that may be h one the quicker route to i got a couple of roadwork reminders farrington southbound in nanakuli is going to be completely closed tonight from nanakuli avenue to piliokahi from nine pm to four am repaving traffic will be contract and the polly will be closed again overnight tonight town bound.

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"hashimoto" Discussed on Super Station 101

Super Station 101

01:54 min | 2 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on Super Station 101

"You get their help you thrive help you make it because you can really can't or vice told you that yet today i'm here to tell you that you can all right let's kick off on the phone and go to thomas how thomas my daughter has been diagnosed with you the i was curious as far as uh oldest peak approach to this was to the although pharmaceuticals the fifth i've got her all well with hashimoto's here's the challenge may i get that your concern in it is is definitely important to be concern but hush emoto's is is a challenge within itself i mean it's one of those it's one of the health challenges that you really have to be cautious about because it's auto immune in nature right so so the big deal is it's got a strong auto immune component that you really have to look at autoimmune diseases no joke and in it's extremely important understand that with hashimoto's or anything else got to look at an overactive immune systems he was actually causing that that's one of the because you have to look into k because without that if you don't if you don't really pay attention that's where the challenges can can really kick in and it's really how she motta's there's so much you can do with nutrition so it's important to get a good overall profile to look and see exactly what you're nutritional weaknesses are hurt nutritional weaknesses are in the villa game plan around that because you've got an identify the weak spots if he can identify the weak spot you can build up a gets all game plan that's when has to happen it's always called the gas tank theory so you've got to find out where the gas tanks are empty or getting low and then he got a film backup so that's one of the major keys to really get it going to the next level okay triple eight two eight three seven two seven two that's.

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"hashimoto" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

01:33 min | 3 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Brace irish theorists arod lives in the twenty four hour kfi news all lanes of the southbound side insent valley have reopened hours after a siree fatal crash involving several vehicles one of them was an la county sheriff's patrol car which was taking to inmates somewhere a chain reaction crash started when an suv stalled on the freeway shortly before three am yesterday pulled into the and pulled into the carpool lane he edged the officer brian ryan be higher says drivers with car trouble said pullover to the shoulder and in once you move your vehicle over we always recommend he will says hey inside the vehicle because there's a lot highs here reports of people standing outside a vehicle china way down hashimoto's nagin shutting hill the state assembly has voted to approve a bill intended to make california's presidential primary one of the first in the country the time primary bill would moved in statewide primary to the first tuesday in march during a presidential election year the state primary has traditionally been held in june at the tail end of the primary schedule last year only washington d c held a leader primary election engineers say they've tried to prepare a dicey dam near montebello for winter the whittier narrows dam is sixty years old the army corps of engineers ranked it as a high risk dan last year colonel kirk a gives says it would take a flood that only happens once every two hundred years tipple communities at risk weird talk king an absolute worst case scenario stormy van would have to occur he says engineers have sent out flood maps and prepared sand and gravel adjusting case traffic on the helpful.

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"hashimoto" Discussed on WLAC

WLAC

02:06 min | 3 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on WLAC

"Is hashimoto's thyroiditis is what it's called in it's an autoimmune condition of the thyroid that's what it is so when with autoimmune remember the body attacks sell the immune system against attack the body it thinks that something's wrong with this firewood so it get goes in and starts attacking the thyroid causing it to have this function as we call it that's when the challenges really occur and what in medical science what we're doing now is we're looking at it as well you got a couple of options if he turns hyper which means it runs really really fast then there's medications you can use that doesn't work then sometimes end up doing radioactive iodine it with it which is what they say it's kinda kills it destroys the land and they remove it or they leave it in so that's one of the options which is really again it's you've gotta do your research on what you want to do and then there's another option that you look at with it when he gets hypo which means that runs low and new with hashimoto's it can swing back and forth but if it gives really low then you got use medication light synthroid love with rocks and you can use armor west roy there's a lot of different versions of that you can use depending on what the physicians will will lead toward year but i mean it just depends on what your doctor wants to do but there's natural ways to support this is not you're not just left on your own to go down a medical route remember this lotta great food you can use to support healthy thyroid function a lot of that is in a thyroid piece that we've done in the website that will really give you some some help but with overall foward function like hashi motives or even just simply hypothyroidism there's some certain food you want to stay away from like for example just some of these are a lot of them but a list would be brussels sprouts and a lot of the cursor fruits vegetables cabbage anything in that family broccoli cauliflower and in certain fruits like strawberries intend to slow the thyroid.

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"hashimoto" Discussed on The Healthy Moms Podcast

The Healthy Moms Podcast

01:31 min | 3 years ago

"hashimoto" Discussed on The Healthy Moms Podcast

"Oh yeah so this is this is really funny semi has i treat a ton of cbot and people in they're always confused because they're like what you do autoimmune disease and hormones and i'm a gag guy and i treat primarily hashimoto's women when with hormone is swords women coming off the pill what they all have guy issues and they're all been less susceptible the cbo so a tree a ton of this and so in my husband was having symptoms i was like okay buddy you got cbot you have to get tested and he's like oh will all test if you tass and i'm like well whatever because you've did his prep diet drink this thing and i'm a great i love data let's just do it but i'm like i'm not going to have cbot and so we test my gases are among the highest i've ever seen any was hilarious because i was a symptomatic with a really strong positive cbot so that was just my leg little moment of like okay you don't have to have got symptoms remember this and so how did i actually get cbot i can actually traces back i know the exact event when it happened because i took this contest a couple months later so what happened was i was going to palio facts and i was in san francisco at the airport this is like i ruled out of bed at least six sand gets the airport no coffee totally out of it and who walks past me but michelle tim and my tired little brain decide that i know her and even though she does know me like of course were best friends raped sushi wilkes pass me and i grabbed her i literally reach out and i'm like hey how's it going like we've been fronts rather.

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