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Motor City Hypnotist Podcast with David Wright  Episode 32 Top 10 Funny Movies

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Motor City Hypnotist Podcast with David Wright Episode 32 Top 10 Funny Movies

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT. visit www dot past detroit dot com before information. In this episode of the Motor City hypnotist podcast, we're GONNA have some fun not that we don't always have fun. It's GonNa have a lot of fun this time we're GONNA. countdown. I'M GONNA say my top ten funny movies but ten of my ten of movies I think I'm funny that might be more accurate. You thinker funny. I think are funny. There's that old saying laughter's the best medicine. Definitely will be and again stay tuned as always. I'm giving away free hypnosis guide and We'll see if you're if you're funny movie made the top ten list. Listening to you know more. Get ready for the motor city hypnotist do the on rights originating from the suburbs of Detroit. Michigan he is hypnotized thousands of people all over the United States. All right. Just been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit for helps people dude using the power of it noses. Welcome the motor city at the taste David. All right. What is going on? People have stayed rights we are back with another episode of the Motor City Him, not podcast. We're here in the podcast Detroit Northville Studios I got upgraded. You yet mad got upgraded because at the table with mean. That declan is back in again he's in the booth. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody everybody said had tied to Declan High Declan No. Okay. No shut me up. So. We are. We're we're GonNa have some fun today. We're GONNA. Talk about my. I'M NOT GONNA say tot tankers. This is a really difficult thing. Before we get into that I'm GonNa tell you where you can find me my website is motor city dot Com. Of course on my website. You can find my podcast blog page you can find my store. And also you can. 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I think we're doing hypnosis for insomnia download was an MP three domains with three download. Yes. A right now I just I just finished something in the past week hypnosis for confidence that is available. So I. will put that in in the show notes for today as well. So when this episode hits You'll be able to look that up. So those of you're watching live on facebook. Just watch for the for the podcast to hit and Grad though show notes. And a big. Thank you to anybody who is watching live on facebook. That's awesome. Hey I appreciate it. It is. It's The hit that time. It has our winner of the week time. This is a good one because we like dogs all we love pop. We love. We Love Dogs. We have a puppy I do I do have while he's eight. Stood but he has a he has a little. The thinks he's a baby. But yeah. So this story is about a dog. So so let me just re through it. It's a lie. I'm GonNa cut edit as I read. So bear with me but EBA who's the dog almost died is an abandoned puppy. She now helps Conservation Biologists Suttie southern resident killer whales. Okay I, read that headline and I'm like. How does that work? Exactly? How does that work? Exactly well, I will tell you when the mixed breed dog was just a few weeks. Old someone dumped her outside of Sacramento Animal Sheltering California. She. Wages three point five pounds and was cold, Wet and lethargic. That she needed to warm up on a heating pad before the shelter staff. Could even take her temperature. So in bad shape also somebody was. was just yeah somebody who was in a hold of this dog. After months of CARE, months of care for the dog. ALBUM EBA I keep saying. I'm thinking of your Selbe Oh i was going just got that dog. Okay. I'm just saying I don't know why I'm stuck on. Eba. but after months of CARE EBA pulled through. After several mishaps including wandering away from her foster home, she happened to be adopted by Dr Deborah. A killer whale researcher at the University of Washington Center for Conservation Biology Okay I see puzzle piece this marine biologist adopted the dog. And then Giles says, I had no idea when I kept her that she was going to become a conservation canine. So, long story short. Giles got an inkling that could be more than a family pet after her dog kept shoving ball to handle a colleague trying to get him to play I guess all dogs but you that she's overestimating thought. Not Trying to be meaner. So. Anyway. Long. And again I I'm I'm GONNA three here. What they trained her to do With the whales. To help them study whales. Okay. is to sniff. Out Wail scat. Wales scat whale scout wheeled droppings. Okay. SCAT. Okay. Yes. poop. Yes. Fair enough. I could do that too. I haven't knows. So the dog sits in and I looked at that there are some photos and I'll have the story link in the show notes. There are a bunch of photos of this dog sitting on on the back of this platform on a boat and what what the dog does is, will that they they have it set up in this harness thing and it'll it'll go in the water and find areas where there are. Killer, whales Scott, and they retrieve that to study the whale because their waste to tell them a lot about the whales their. Their Health Yep there. Okay. Our they've been with their eating cat rights. So the dog sniffs out whale Scott killer whale orca whale for the exaggerate. Yeah. What they're eating eating. Okay. So the dog went from being abandoned almost dead to being A. Marine biologist. Okay. Now that can scat. Yeah. That could. I don't know. I'm sorry about that whatever that was. brought. The scan it probably shouldn't have happened. So. Eba Are Whale biologist dog is our winner of the week. said. That was that was quite a here going. quickly. Really got out of hand fans. I wasn't expecting you to sing but that was great. That was that was pretty bad. I. Can't believe I just get it. Get it on the microphone. So. Today we're we're going to have a little bit of fun and I opened the show saying the old old adage the old saying laughter is the best. Medicine. If if if you if you can enjoy yourself and laugh. You're gonNA feel better and. I may be rationalized this. We're taking a mental health approach to funny movies, but it's accurate and true if it's hard to feel bad when you're laughing right in fact, I don't know that it's possible. I you know. Just, just even a lot of the stuff that we have fun with on the show. fucking. What do you laugh something like that? You can't feel bad. It's just it just brings US releases endorphins and it makes you feel good. That's that's our mantra forever show doing it. Yeah. We're GONNA lie. That's our. Mantra. So we're talking today about top ten funny movies now. disclaimer because we could start a a social media war regarding what's in this list and what's not and I, get it because I I could have had. A hundred movies I for this year. I really like funny movies. I've been alive a long time. So seen a lot of them. So I'm sure that I've loved some out that you would say, oh, how could you leave that out and there might be some on here you're like, really that's that's really funny. I'm going to throw a disclaimer on top glacier. Yes I, haven't seen this list. So yes, you have reserved the right to say that's not funny in fact I'm since mats at the table I, just going to not show it to him because I have I have a kind of things on my computer so we're going to start the countdown. So top. Ta I'M GONNA say ten funny movies out are on my list because say top ten that could change tomorrow right fair enough. I'M GONNA play. And we'll have some function I'm going to play a clip first, and then we'll tell you what the movie is should be able to most of the time this one maybe not. All right we'll see. Cal. Me Is the. You know what you're hearing. was brought in two years ago I was suffering from nervous exhaustion I used to get sharp pains in my neck and dreamt about werewolves. Yeah. I. Don't know that. We're wolves high anxiety Mel Brooks. And in two years that you've been here, there's the voice you've made any progress. This is why I never gets pains anymore. It's been six months since I had a dream about where we'll. Johnson you last dream about a whale? Will tell me Mr Copyright frankly if you were return to the community here. Still function and a happy healthy normal and productive manner. Oh I, think. So I feel pretty good. What's a matter? What's wrong? Came back. Probably. From behind right here Mr. Head back to. I'll try this pain that you have. Such a long time as suddenly reappeared for no apparent reason I don't know it is. Strange, experience I think the pain is going away. Perfect. Harvey Korman puts. Behind doctor. Some High Anxiety Mel Brooks film and for that scene alone I I swear to God I can watch at one hundred times laugh as hard every time. You have to see it. You've seen the movie, right? It's. been a while I remember it's been a while. So Harvey Korman Shuts the guy with paper from behind. That's why you hear that snap. The paintings bag, and then he puts his teeth in and he's behind the other doctor pretending to be aware wolf which he hasn't had dreams about six, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's number ten high anxiety brooks six months you had any thoughts. Where we'll? Much, better. Okay. Number Nine I used to be able to name every nut the was. That used a drive my mother. Crazy. She's to say Harland Pepe. If you don't stop naming nuts. Costa we lived in. I think that's what put it in my head of that. At that point? So I go to see she'd hear me and the other room and she would just talk. Peanut. Hazelnut. Cashew. Macadamia nuts. That was the one that was saying. Go. Crazy said you've stopped naming nuts. Cuban used to be able to make the sound with the dog he wasn't talking, but he used to go. Over. Like Macadamia. I. All esten show? Okay Okay yes. All right fair enough. That one I don't know why that part is always killed me. Because it's a faux documentary add that's something I would watch judges never got around to it. Oh, you've never seen it no. Oh Yeah. You need to watch that one. Okay. In. It's just. Filled with it, and the best thing about that movie is Of course, I'm not going to think that the actor who just died recently He plays. He's one of the dog show announcer always saying inappropriate things during the dog show shoot Got Google. Okay. Well, we'll come back to them. A cassie just passed away over the past month because because he was he was just in a show. I was draw blank when I'm on Air I can name totally and completely. Willard Willard Yeah Fred Willard is one of the announcers at the dog show. Okay that's number nine best in show again, Faux documentary and speaking of those. Here's number eight. This is a top to of us, but it's very, very special because if you can see. The numbers go to eleven look. Across the board eleven or examine most of an ams go up to ten exactly. Does that mean it's louder than any louder? Well, it's one. Hundred ten you see most most blogs be paying ten. You're on ten here all the way up all the way up all the way up your own ten guitar where can you go from there where? Exactly, what we do is we need that extra. What we do put it up to. Exactly one. Now, why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top. Number and make that alone. These. Spinal tap. Yeah I go through my Rolodex Documentary Yup Yup I that I have seen I'm going through my Rolodex I. I've seen this but I'm like, okay the the accent I'm like monty python no doubt yet spinal tap spinal tap. which again it's it's one of those four documentaries, but but one of the original ones that. Yeah, it's just funny and that was like one of probably. Set the same guys. Scenes is that the same guys that did best in show? Yes. Yeah. A lot of the same actors are in are in those a lot of those documentaries they all kind of make the rounds through those. A lot of them. Yes. All right we're on number. Seven. Okay, this one you'll know soon as I start to play. All right. No that would not be funny in America. Okay. What is not. Jokes. A not joke is when we're trying to make fun of something. What we do is we make a statement. That we pretend is true. But at the end, I'll say not which means it's not true. To make one, what color is your soon? Gray. Gray. Okay All, right. Great. But certainly now. Let's say it's great but it's not as good. So. I would say that soon as black not. These are sued is nat. Not. Black. Applause yes, this is. not this suit is black ause. Not. You don't say pause. Pause not. This black. Okay. I I. Don't I'm not. There it is. Borough at number two's coming out within the. Which? I could. That movie just killed the I watch the fights hotel. burned. into. My, brain. And there are there was a lot of great clips that they didn't include. I don't know if you saw the one him in the supermarket talking to a guy. and. He's looking he's like what does this and he goes that's cheese what does this and he just keeps goes down the whole island points at every single thing and it's just all cheese dissection. Rice he goes. No that's. What. Does this guy just goes along with it? Answering. Look that up. That's a great one. Support is that number one, two, three, four, two, nine, eight, seven, I'm having flashbacks. Number number six. We need. Is it the. Within. The Frank Means I. Know it looks think it's a little bit of bummer. Bubble their. Pictures. Plan. There's something about Mary. Yes. That's speeds. And he remembers that it was him. Guys. That that part just was painful God that was that was hard to watch. When I was pulling pulling information for the show you don't want to watch. Bread FOB. Father Rav Rav. Okay all right. Again hopefully these earth these are people enjoy these movies. Yeah. Because I mean again to me, they're funny but. So. Let's move on and go forward and six. We're halfway through. This is five. All right. So number five. and. You'll know this I I guarantee. You'll note immediately. If you're blue and you don't know where to go to lie. Don't you go where fashion? Okay. Perfect. Young Frankenstein. yes it is Gene Wilder Mel Brooks. A little bit of Trivia for you. For those of you who've seen that movie that whole that whole dance scene. Gene Wilder insisted at the end. Mellberg's did not want to use it. He did not think it would be funny. Really yes. No Brooks didn't think something have. said, he just said I it's not gonNA work. It's just not gonNA play. And a did and he gave credit to wilder later I'm glad he insisted we use that right right because as Goofy goofy movie to be sure beginning to say yeah, it's just all you know if you WANNA laugh. Yes it's we we're coming up on Halloween and if you WanNa have a comedy night for Halloween. Watch it and laugh. So don't your spouse or your kids. Watch it again anything by MEL BROOKS OR ANYTHING The. Money Python. Yes. They're just silly. Nonsense. It's fun nonsensical. Sit Down I. I mean, if you've ever watched the holy grail, it's just nonsense. I in the dungeon his hands. But but they're fun because again, it just it it just something to to make you laugh and make you feel good. That's what's great about. Young Frankenstein was number five fair August number four. All right. Let's go to number four not a huge clip, but you'll know it when you I think you'll not once it gets to the. Really wearing. The men I. You actually GonNa, wear that you guys just fucking with me. Things, a lot of compliments on this plus it's not a man purse. It's called a Satchel. INDIANA, Jones one. Bihar. The hangover. If, you want if you WANNA go all out for a Halloween costume where the heck is Austin absolutely absolutely every time white pants get get the shirt get get a Satchel and everyone will know exactly who you are. And that one oh my gosh just saw so many. So many things I could pull off on that one to. Just. Just. Fantastic That's a good one. All these have been just you spot on. Yup So hangover. Yeah. That was number four number three. Number. Three. And of course, we're very familiar with a lot of these. Ron. Burgundy. News T. Know West man, tooth, aloe, Evening News, team. Nice clothes. I didn't know the Salvation Army was having a seal. These guys. Hey. Where did you get those close at the toilet store? Yes. Of course had to be in there it was. It's been fairly recent when I say fairly recent as far as movies go but so many Gosh. So many things of that movie. Yeah. The bottom, there's a lot to unpack in that movie there. We've had we've had quote. Yeah, we we've had quite a few things from their. Album sorry. Sorry. quickly. Really got out of hand fence and of course. I have many leather bound book. and. Apartment. Smells of rich Mahogany. Got A lot of anchorman. We do like a new pickup lines. It is, of course. That one that one's perfect talk. I thought we had one more, but maybe not now I don't think so now. You may have taken it out. I can't remember what it was. There's been so many. Yes, I know there are so many good ones on that. So so anyway, anchorman, it's number three. Good. Okay. This is, of course we're we're getting down to a couple better left here, but I'm sure this guy really tough for you. As you were putting this, it's just so hard because any th this could be almost any order as well. Maybe not maybe a couple of not would be near the top, but these top like four or five that's just tough to. To to spread them out or type rank them. So of course. You're. You're. You're Quincy's inequalities. Can't do that into not Stanton can't you? Know Race Again, not triple stamp at Norway's. Make it through. God Yeah. Very. For the most annoying examine the world. Jeff Daniels A. Former Michigan native you know. It was it was so funny because before they did the sequel because it was like twenty years. Yeah. At more than that. And and Jeff Daniels always do with these interviews and they would say, Hey, are you going to do a sequel and he's like? I'm waiting for Jim Carey to call me. Just he was like he was ready for it whenever and. Waiting for Jim Carey to say yeah, let's do it right because Jim Carey wanted twenty Mil while. Yeah of course. you want to make more money. Why and they did they did that one in between right which was like them as kids or younger or something college I saw was awful. Yeah. They should not have put a name on that. For us, it should should have not made that. So you're saying there's a chance. to, go to the bath. Just go. Home we'll say that Bob Sagi-. Oh No. That wasn't that wasn't that was later one. was that one just go about saggy when you must the bathroom up oh no that was the first one that was the first one. Okay. Yeah. Don't use the toilet the flush broken. that. There was one where he had a chocolate bar in his pocket. That was that was a later one later one. Okay. Yeah. The first one in the whole. ICONIC SCENE, right? You're right each shooting up from. Dumb, and dumber number two. Yeah I'm with you. I mean you know. And I have to say I know I probably have both genders, listening males and females. Females might have different kind of sense of humor. Of course but. This. Has Gone human. Guy. US. That's how it will help you hands are freezing. Here WANNA borrow mine. Extra glow. Let's go on to number one. Young. WHO's come out of nowhere? Three hundred fifty yards. About five. Hundred. He's got a beautiful. Oh, he got out of that one. He's got to be pleased with the crowd is. Cinderella boy. Tuesday's is I guess he? Shot he's got about one ninety. He's got about a need. She and you WANNA story I don't know where. Now. Looks. The whole. CADDYSHACK. That'd be out there. Well. We're waiting. CADDYSHACK is number one seeds. Said Candy Bar and Bob Sad like wait a minute that was caddyshack with the Baby Ruth Oh, right? Yes. Right. Because that was there was a candy bar scene. So, I know there are so many and I'm just thinking right now of things that are just popping my head like stripes. Balmy boy. A lot of those snl movies world world. Into for goodness. Yes. Exactly. And then even going back to more, you know we none of the monty python movies. Scott. In here it didn't which is surprising to me and I would and that's one I've just I can thought that Oh. Yeah. I missed one of those because lifer Brian or holy grail right should have been in meaning of life meaning of life, right? Yeah. And you get a bunch of other Mel Brooks blazing saddles. which is there's a disclaimer on Hbo Max was on there before you would actually play ablaze in San Right th there's there's some there's some racially insensitive language in that movie, right so so I understand that was made in seventies eighties mid mid to late seventy more bean standard. But I like the whole fire, the beans and the fireplace or around the campfire. So take out. I don't know that you can't separate because you're want to be sensitive to racial issues and they you know. That that's tough to get away with now. Very Yeah. There's tons of them out there. So if you if you have any other ones people that you wanna add, hit me up on social media well. Do to some point I'm added one. Bueller Ferris bueller worse out. Sixteen candles Radford's Claudia the Hughes movies any accused I like I, said, once you go down this rabbit hole. All many and I seriously. I could've named one hundred when I was putting this together earlier today and I just had to put in ten and that's you know if we did a six hour show yeah we have a list of one hundred we could. So maybe that's an idea for a show. Maybe we'll do that some day new podcast idea. So folks thanks for listening in. Change Your thinking change your life laugh hard run fast kind. I will see you next time.

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11 Trivia Questions on Money

Trivia With Budds

15:21 min | 2 years ago

11 Trivia Questions on Money

"Are you broke because I've got eleven questions for about money by my friend, John how for my life, trivia nights? This is trivia with buds. And welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan butts. Thanks for checking out my shell. If you hear kids and kid noises in the background. That's because I have kids and running around and recording. While they're watching tangled in the next room and the walls and doors in the new house are very very thin. So you may hear a little one year old Tommy screaming about his mom, and you may hear a four year old Annabel asking me if I want to wrestle. So those are my kids, and that's what's going on in my house. Today's episode is called money. It's a gas. These were questions written by my friend. John bow who plays trivia with his LA, meet up trivia group all over the inland empire area in southern California. And their group usually wins first or second place. They are pretty pretty smart cookies and John said, hey your. Talk about how you never get to play trivia. So I wrote you this big packet of trivia, and we did one of these episodes think last week or the week before. And now we're doing one on money. So we're gonna see how many of these questions about money that I can get you can kind of play along and see do better or worse than me. Spoiler alert. You will probably do better. Because as it turns out, I don't know much about anything to that's how it's going to go. If you wanna play trivia with me in southern California left free to come check out one of my nights. They are fun. They're unique. No two are the same. Sometimes you get a host like me. Sometimes you get one of my friends, sometimes my wife Ashley has been hosting lately. So little something for everybody in terms of hosts and about fifteen places at this point new places, keep popping up you could play with me and place called first-class pizza. We're gonna be doing bingo there on Saturday nights all through March from seven to nine PM on Saturdays in riverside, California. And in April, we're gonna start trivia there every Wednesday from seven to nine first-class pizza. Riverside, California, another very cool place. It's called the high point brewing company, and that's over in San Dimas, California. We do bingo there every Sunday starting these Sunday after Saint Patrick's Day. So we effort Saint Patrick's Day will be there. I believe it's the twenty third like that. And we'll be there every Sunday from four to six PM free family fun at high point brewing. And you cannot check me out every Tuesday in Laverne, California at Lord's Berg tap house. We just had an excellent fat Tuesday. They're just last night. It was a great time doing a bunch of mardi gras and New Orleans related trivia. So check out those locations by going to trivial buds dot com clicking around in seeing what I'm up to in southern California. I know what you're up to right now. And it's answering eleven questions on money along with me. So let's see how many of these. We can both get right right now. Here we go. Right here, we go money. It's a gas from John how in southern California question number one. What team was the movie moneyball about question. Number one. What team was the movie moneyball about I'll give an ice little pause after the questions like that. So that you can pause it if you're playing along live with someone in the car or at the gym or in your office, and then I'll give you my guests. So my guess for this one number one the team the movie moneyball is about I believe it is a green colored uniform team. So I'm gonna go with the Oakland Athletics. If if that's a team, I think it is the Oakland A's, that's my guess, I don't know why not super confident in it. But that is my guest question number one. What was the team in the movie moneyball, and I guess is the Oakland A's number two on what Pink Floyd album. Did this song money, I appear number two. I know this song because it is the lead inside. To the Dave Ramsey show. I think that's their song. And here at every day when I fast forward it to get to him talking and taking calls, but here again number two what Pink Floyd album did the song money. I appear. I think my answer for that one is going to be the wall because I don't know any Pink Floyd albums. I don't even know if that is a album title. I have no idea. So I'm just going to say the wall number three who played count day Monet count Damani in the Mel Brooks movie history of the world part one. Who is a good question. This is quality. Mel Brooks question. Number three who played count Damani in the Mel Brooks movie history of the world part one. My guess for that one would be let's see I'm going to say Mel Brooks himself because he always plays like a random character. And I feel like the characters he plays always have like a real fun turn of phrase name like that. So I'm going to say Mel Brooks plays count data money number four. What is the lightest US coin ever minted? What is the latest US coin ever minted? Okay. So I've never even really thought about the weight of coins. I guess a nickel weighs more than like a dime. Right. Because it's bigger and thicker who knows I have no idea they're all the same in your hand when you're jingling them around for the parking meter. I'm gonna say the lightest United States coin ever. Minted is I don't know the. Dime. I'm going to say the dime. Because that's the smallest number five. What is the lowest valued United States coin ever minted number five? What's the lowest valued United States coin ever minted? Okay. So the lowest valued so that would be like the wouldn't be once it's gotta be less than a cent. I guess so I'm gonna say. Something weird like a quarter. A quarter of a cent. Half a cent. I'm gonna say a quarter of a cent with nothing to back it up with I feel like maybe back in the wild west times. They might have had something smaller than that. I don't know. Maybe even before that who knows when or the wild west times late eighteen hundreds I don't know number seven in number six shave and a haircut two bits. What is the value of two bits shaven haircut two bits? What is the value of two bits? I'm going to say that that is. The fifty cents fifty cents shaven haircut two bits maybe a bit too quarter. And you got two of them. So you get fifty cents. There's my guests there. Number seven in the game monopoly. How much money does each person start with number seven? I think that I know this from another trivia game. I played one time. And I think it's fifteen hundred dollars if not mistaken, I'm gonna try and added up real quick you got the thinking to five hundred. So you had a thousand right there. Then get to one hundreds that's twelve hundred two fifties is thirteen hundred six twenty which was a weird number. That's another one twenty hour, fourteen twenty then you got the tens that's another fifty bucks. So that's up to fourteen twenty fourteen seventy and then you got five five sets twenty five averted Jack this up. I think it's fifteen hundred dollars. Somehow, I think it all works out to fifteen hundred but we'll figure that out in just a second. I guess and number eight how much had della saved for gyms gift in the gift of the maj. I how much had della saved for gyms gift in the gift of the maj. I don't know what any of this means barely know the phrase or the name gift to the maj. I how much had della saved. I don't know ten dollars number eight ten dollars and number nine which president is pictured on the one hundred thousand dollar Bill. I didn't know this existed much like any of the questions in this round. But the hundred thousand dollar Bill let's see wasn't Mr. burns from the Simpsons because a trillion dollar Bill. I think which president is pictured on the one hundred thousand dollar Bill. Okay. Hundred thousand dollar Bill who would be on that. Millard fillmore. That's my guest Millard Fillmore and at number ten Lee starred in the nineteen seventies TV show as astronaut Steve Austin. That's the six million dollar, man. I definitely know that one sorry didn't take the pause but li-major start in the nineteen seventies TV show as astronaut Seve. Austin pause. My guess is the six million dollar, man. That's the only one confident in hopefully, you did better. There's one more question. The bonus question for two points. If you're playing along at home number eleven excluding Philadelphia Denver in San Francisco named to other cities were a US mint has been located. Oh, I should've skip this one I should have pretended. I didn't see it because I do not know excluding Philadelphia, Denver and San Francisco named to other cities where US mint has been located. I'm going to say Philadelphia, and I'm going to say an apples Philadelphia. Philadelphia's the first one gosh darn it. Okay. Annapolis and New York. Those are my guesses an apples and New York. Okay. Guys. Those are the questions great hard questions. John. If I was playing this by myself at a live trivia night. I would have flunked it. We're gonna go over the answers in just a second to see how I did. And see how you did the same time. We'll be right back. Here we go with John bows. Questions on money. It's a gas question. Number one. What team was the movie moneyball about? Hey, I was right. The Oakland Athletics. Number one, the Oakland Athletics. Again, I just remembered the green colored uniform like on the cover of the movie or on a screen shot from the movie, and that was the one that popped in my head. I know it was like a California team. So Oakland Athletics number two on what Pink Floyd album did the song money, I appear the answer was dark side of the moon, which I've definitely heard of. And that's one you can team up with wizard of Oz. And it makes it weird. Right. So I should have been able to guess that. But I did not number two dark side of the moon number three who played count Damani in Mel Brooks history of the world part one Harvey Korman definitely never would have gotten that Harvey Korman Harvey Korman. I think is the trauma guy Harvey Korman. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm right number four is the lightest United States coin. Ever. Minted the silver three cent piece from eighteen fifty four to seventy three. Oh, yeah. That one was on the tip of my tongue. The silver three cent piece. I knew the weight of it come on John number four number five. What is the lowest value states coin ever? Minted the half cent piece. I did kind of mutter that out. And then I said the quarter cent, but the half cent piece was the answer. Seventeen ninety three to eighteen fifty seven K little piece of info for you. Their number six shaven haircut two bits. What's the value of two bits twenty five cents? I was on the right track with this as well. I said that a bit was twenty five cents, but to bits is twenty five cents. That means it is twelve and a half cents. I guess a bit. So if you said to bits for those two things it'd be twenty five cents number six number seven in the game and -opoly how much does each person start with. It is fifteen hundred dollars one thousand five hundred dollars got that one. Okay. So I got Oakland Athletics. And I got that one number. Eight how much is how much had della Sade for gyms gifts in the gift of the man dollar eighty seven. According to the story, sixty cents of it was in pennies if this is true, there are sixty pennies than how did she get the final seven cents, maybe half sense. That's what he wrote. I don't know what any of that refers to but the answer was a dollar eighty seven. I guess number nine which president is pictured on the one hundred thousand dollar Bill. Woodrow Wilson WW, Woodrow Wilson, and number ten Lee. Major start in the nineteen seventies TV show is astronaut Steve Austin that was the six million dollar, man. Got that one. So I got three I got monopoly. I got Steve Austin, and I got moneyball. So go me, I bet you got more than three hopefully out of eleven. Oh, I forgot this little bonus again. Okay. Any of the two would have worked for the US mint says, John he says West Point Carson City New Orleans. Delana and Charlotte or Manila in the Philippines. I dunno US mint in the Philippines. I didn't know that. Okay. Interesting. Carson city. I think I've heard of that Norlin maybe coulda guessed it, the other ones no idea at all. It was not an apples or New York as I guessed. But those are your answers to money. It's a gas. 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64. The Star Wars Holiday Special (1978)

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64. The Star Wars Holiday Special (1978)

"The episode sixty three the the cursive preemption in the wake of an apocalypse cultural. Shift the owners of the Star Wars property were flush with power. No medium seemed to daunting no audience. It's out of reach Admiral. Lucas against the wishes of his advisors teamed with the House of CBS to create what they thought would be an unstoppable populace juggernaut to be transmitted all over the world through the still new personal audiovisual entertainment consoles however Baruskov Lynch a mercenary brought in to help create this new breed of cash. Grab grab became wary. Even as Harvey Korman Diane Carol and the members of Jefferson starship pledged their allegiance. Meanwhile a young Jason saw in this innovation a path forward toward creating his own empire while even younger Chris still unable to form. Full thoughts felt an inchoate disappointment at the incredible hulk being bumped that week before becoming entranced by his first cultural trainwreck. Oh is that it okay. I was I was like the like the star. Wars crawl itself. I was ready eighty for that to keep going on long time. You're waiting for the spaceship to fly by. Loved it. Great yes. We're here today on our holiday episode. We're joined by Resident Star Star. Wars superfan Dan Hartley Jesus who is also a writer a producer a actor and a lower once. You introduce yourself self. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Dan My name is. Dan Heartland from Santa Monica California. Welcome to the full cast and crew Cantina. Chris and I will entertain you and Grado reader shoppers. You think I had a choice to Dan here because an is one of those star wars super fans wear like new star. Wars thing will come out and then Dan and we'll be the guy who's like. Oh wait a minute. No that movie violated the Cannon in the following sixteen ways. I've had this experience with you where I came in. I think after rogue one it was real Guan which I loved rogue one. That's the one I thought was populated with really good actors. That was the one that was like a separate story. Yeah Yeah I loved that it was in the Star Wars was university and it was it was in fact it was a star. Wars story was yes exactly. That's what they're doing with all the new movies that aren't that aren't the trilogy or the Prequel. What are you guys call? It is true cannon. What's the how do we refer to this? This is one of those we have to get the terms. To how do we refer in the early two thousands because all of the books and the the comics it was getting so unwieldy George. Lucas started this thing and I believe it was called. You know what I'm talking about Chris. It was the the like how Krahn or something like crooks know now with that. That's a different ninety. It was he. He basically organize everything into what was cannon was not. Okay do this in the early two thousands okay and that exhorting sorry it was only until then that he thought it had gotten unwieldy it took it took twenty years because films. Did this thing. To sort of canonize is everything was at a document. It was like an extensive list. Basically okay that was all the things that he thought belonged in the world. And all the things that we're not can't and that that is the sound of the last female listener to the podcast. You're partying the episodes right now. Krahn by the way that it's a good name. The hall is divided into five levels in order of presents. The G Canon Canon Canon S Canon and the end cannon. I love this always always end candidates cannon. Where do the like is non Canon novels? Come in well it depends on which novel so there is so okay so and and this is actually going to be a great segue into the holiday special. So g cannon is George Lucas cannon that's the absolute cannon that includes episodes one through six five nine and the T- candidates television cannon that refers to the cannon level comprising only two television shows the clone wars and Star Wars rebels. Okay the C.. Cannon is Continuity Canon consisting of materials of the expanded universe including books comics and Games bearing the label of stars. Well let's watch a little of the s Cannon Star Wars Holiday Special Nineteen seventy-eight which I started laughing one minute seventeen seconds in we have a little bit of a crawl all here and then when you start. Can I just say that the text is wrong is wrong is is the title. The Font is wrong. Whatever this is whatever the Star Wars Texas yes like Helvetica or whatever but you're not worried that it's not slanted and going away from us in the historical fashion? Because that's always starts is the first time that I laughed was the never ending introductions of WHO's going to be on this thing This is a little bit of that right here. Introducing Show bacchus family in his wife Malo his father iggy his son loved me with special guest. Star Beatrice Author Author Art Carney Diane Carroll in Jefferson starship Harvey Korman and an Animated Star Wars Story on the Star Wars holiday special. Uh then unfortunately you eleven minutes of Wookey Talk. I'm sorry this is GonNa be crazy and then you're like well yes. It is crazy but not in the way it was getting underway. You hope for yeah like structural oddities as we go through the holiday special. I love the I love the decor and the design of Chewbacca. Chewbacca home the tree houses that was that was done by the guy who designed vader and CPO and he did all those sketches and they actually built a three hundred sixty degree like they built a nightmare which was a nightmare to fill in the book home video but they definitely built like a whole show. They did it in. I hi space for trees that high in and around Los Angeles but no but they built a whole like the apartments that great like. Here's the thing. Here's the realism cameras like. We're we're supposed to the cameras. We're GONNA have a multi alone the crew. Yeah Right. It was a multi camera shoot. which was the problem right? You barely fit one. And that's why the first director. I think quit midway. Midway through apparently rookies budget reasons. He quit mid century. Modern Danish wooden design in their living wrong. We this can just set the table for a minute. I think it's important to understand the context of from introductory standpoint come out in nineteen seventy seven year and a half before a huge hit that thing ran for eighteen months in the theaters. Unprecedented broke all the box. Office records Yada Yada Yada. Nobody thought it would do anything. They made appearances on like Bob. Hope they made appear and they were doing like schmucky sticky stuff kind of like this hugely successful. They did the Richard Pryor. Show everybody's super excited and then. CBS Approaches Star Wars. They say we want to do a holiday special. This was supposed to be a pilot highlight. This was supposed to go on for every single year. Thereafter right empire was not yet they were in the middle of pre-production sort of like halfway between like ready to get the toys moving. Keep moving west and add more choice. Right they wanted to do that. You Baca family. They wanted to do both. Wouldn't want an Itchy EH. Behold the ravages of age old masturbating close for Itchy doll and it was exciting people were and like and it had had a proven track record with all these late night. Appearances camel shows up. And he's like I hope you brought the force of the kidneys like yeah sure the police force and it's like these grown there's but people are losing their minds. We couldn't get enough so one of the funny organizing principle. Mistakes is that okay like Harvey Korman Bea Arthur. Third starship like okay. Nineteen seventy eight man. We're still all over like it's cool. We can go there. I really think that. Some of the structural problems from this is a very famous sleet. Derided holiday special. There's all sorts of possibly apocryphal stories on the Internet of like George. Lucas tried to buy up all the available copy. And he doesn't want to talk about about and Mark Hamill won't answer questions about it and I think that's all true that's probably all to some degree or another true but it's probably about is true. Is the idea that sly stallone. Sold his dog just before he made Rocky Hill. It's also been a lot of time. I'm sure like at the time mark and was like yeah. I don't WanNa free and talk about this. But by now he's cooled down and he's mellowed and stuff. That's very different so so too with with George Lucas will. He actually wrote a kind of interesting treatment for it. I mean this structure I think it works more Bruce Flange got his hands on this is pretty much it was about. It was an adventure story about lumpy. Getting Home Right. Well it wasn't the whole life was to be a rookie story. Yeah they want the next movie to be a wookey movie while he wanted A Cacique to be in empire and Twentieth Century Planet. where the rookies correct? Sorry I take that as a four originally translate for the North so so and so but but twentieth century Fox said Bye bye to that he wanted the jungle planet of Cacique or the force plenty of chic. Whatever and they wouldn't give it to him so he was like all right? Fuck you guys has these ideas. And he's like a dog with a bone he wants to use them in sociology with a bond to rump. I Bet joke but I did like the joke. And I'm mad about it so however we end up here you start with just from like a continuity perspective audience engagement perspective the bizarre choice of basically listening to this for seven to eleven minutes like honestly there are no subtitles. It's all all sort of you're supposed to get the story from the physical actions of the wookey. It's annoying to listen to what I'm sorry. Is it eleven minutes. It's a long time. This is one of the longest one hour thirty seven minutes. Things I've ever watched in my life. It took me four days to get through this. This was the longest guest one hour special ever made. Did you digest this one fell swoop. Yeah I mean I I was reading. I literally. I had to do it over four days. You know it's funny. How a lot of things things like? Especially when they have a bad reputation will gain a certain ironic distance and people sort of enjoy in a so good. It's none of that with this. This is this is really like it is a slogging log and it is and I was reading an interview with one of the one of the directors. I think he was bender or binder. Who was the second director and he was like look man like everybody worked really hard on it and we tried and we? I didn't think it was going to be like I walked out of it like I did it and it looks back at me. It didn't quite work but But there's no like fun to be had kick in the ribs. Actually though I'm going to say I'm going to defend one part of it. I think that the Han chewy scenes to me. That was a breath. I was always relieved when we cut back to that because you have to reliably good characters doing their thing. You're getting what you want. Like the Mark Hamill generally getting what you want because his face is so strangely made up because this was right after his famous car accident. Carrie Fisher's thing at the end end is just like this song that she demanded to do. We'll play a little of that but I actually enjoyed the banter. I you're just in good hands when you have Han Solo. All right the co-ordinates weren't the best out of the frame. The fight repower they come out of hyperspace in the middle of convoy these against spiders got more of a chance. Say That again. Am You didn't like that part either. Again he looked uncomfortable. The lines were pretty crappy. I will say the story is pretty much the same as planes trains and automobiles automobiles home but from Lila Robbins as characters point of view and then without words without the segue. Chris did you write that down. Yeah I've been trying to see how far it went. Oh keep going with that trying to get back you know. Obviously the John Candy character is Chewbacca. WHO PS the biggest shock about this whole thing was finding out that he is not a bachelor me that he had a kid that covered in the I three movies at all or the first movie now? Of course no yeah because suddenly all their gallivanting. You're going out and being smugglers like now I'm worried he's going to get hurt. And he's got a kid to support not only that but how about that. He lives in a nine thousand nine hundred seventy s Sitcom construct. My Dad's moving in with us about this. Did you know that originally Han Han Solo was going to be married to a wookey original treatment and then after a couple of revisions that went bye. That was the original. I like it man like I said. It's an inclusive universe. I WANNA see that. I WanNa see Ben Solo. Chris the thing that you read where the director said that everyone tried really hard. I I know when you when you resolve to Itchy lumpy and scratchy or whatever it is no no you guys didn't try that hard beyond that and it's a joke Chris. Wow you just took off from so yeah. We have the whole wookey setup which is like choice trying to get home. He's with Han. The imperial guard is around so the first time I woke up was when art. Carney appears art. Carney is sort of like a a space trader who is based on the trader in the Western who trades with the native Americans. Exactly it was like the original Landau. This was like a Landau character. And isn't there another thought. There was another tradesman in character that he that exists now that he was sort of like an early precursor to in what I can t cannon. Here's a little art car. I mean how the Hell Carney and here. I don't know I can't find any information about that. I know it's just here. He is with a imperial guard in his trading post. I just thought I'd show you some of the stupid stuff. Those Wilkins purchase on me. I'll et hot little item. visby mowing pretty rapidly. Did got a wall screen custody again. I don't just lay you calling wondering when that Shaggy Compu- ordered arrive to reassure. It's not it's way tonight night. especially if you buy a level four minutes away. She did it all by hand. Saw Hum Dot GonNa take some time to get to you. I know you wanted to stand on driving. I'll be violated to that. Next photon Japan. Welcome my favorite thing too is that there's a death star operator during the scene because they had the costume. So yeah but those guys operate that star. This is right this is also like pre fandom so somebody like here put this on this. This is from the movie there was nobody there to back sir. That's their own type of uniform. I love those people that hey compet. He's coming well There were a lot of people involved in this and really accumbens. This really seems like hers during a Autour Vision. This is yeah. This is by committee verse. Director was a guy named. He's what it was like. David or Combo was George Lucas. I think thank no. He was a Canadian director and mostly did like song and dance stuff and he did the first be Arthur scene. He had made all of these documentaries about the music and musicians and he was a little bit more counterculture a little bit rock and roll. He's who was like and we'll have Jefferson starship and all that man. And he was like he was saying he's like I didn't give a fuck about art carney and bea Arthur but that was like the old variety show people who are working on so there was like this rock and roll documentary director and these old time variety Vaudevillian types putting together which is part of the reason. Why you get that odd mishmash and I will say for Art Carney? And Arthur and I dunno Oh Harvey Korman's a little bit harder to gauge the performance or good good like they are not well well well Harrison. Ford is the folk hold on the material. Real isn't good. They are pros and they are doing their job within the construct special. Yeah especially Arthur especially I Harvey Harvey Korman. No I don't know what he's doing. It's like army gorringe. Funny I mean if games like this really did make me laugh once win but when he's stepping into his Chin that made me laugh. Well anyway I mean you see you see them working in an hour and a half Chris. You're right it's kind have akin to Greece and some of the other things we talked about where you kind of have like the troll to put you also have the stars from the thirties forties and fifties. That are around. It's for everybody right. Which UH which looks strange now if it is a holiday special if it is meant to be for the family like I think there is meant to be a little bit for you a little bit further your old band? Yeah Yeah I think this is where Nagasaki Utah hearing you talk about that is truly it really makes me realize like the idea that too many cooks cooks in the kitchen. I mean everybody tried to add their own little thing to the soup and it just tastes so shitty actually the beginning of reminded me of the defamed Internet viral video too many cooks because the opening music just goes on and on and on it's looped about three four five times too many in many many many approach so Chris you mentioned virtual reality lookie porn As I did let's not sleep on. How oddly prescient? Many of the technological innovations in and this one thousand nine hundred ninety eight holiday special are you have creation of virtual reality porn. which is you know? That's a thing. Sure apparently later on in the show you have have Harvey Korman Invents Max headroom but this this is the strangest sequence in the entire freaking thing because it's four children primarily or you're talking about the virtual yeah so art carney gifts various things and then itchy. See the dirty old man. Father of Chewbacca is set up in a sort of Matt. Black Hairdryer and art. Carney puts in a little chip and basically gives him a wookey orgasm. Cj Yeah I. My voice is a lull. I funding under your eyes. Only I exist. I am your mind as you create. Oh when he can feel my creation. I'm getting your message. Are you getting mine. Oh we are I just relax just yeah we can have a good. Oh secret first attention for the first director. This was supposed to be you. Were Jefferson starship showed up and this is going to be overlapping. Diane Karen Oh no giant cow okay. It was going to be he puts it on and he was basically watching a music video. Sure that was the that was the original and then somehow year old dad want to watch a music video no it was actually tobacco. WHO's watching it in the and the first first one? Dan has availed himself of the early script. I read it every morning but like what. I what I'm confused. What was the actual original intention of this this version? Well Mitzi Welsh. Is She responsible. He's always ready with Mexican. MSCI welches producers she is quoted quoted as saying that it was supposed to be softcore porn. That would pass the censors so she was supposed to be porn. It'd be I I don't know I imagine there were trying something else stole. There's no other explanation for that. Then he's getting off watching VR porn. That's that's what he's doing. I can understand the idea of like a wild whole family. Give some never for everybody but you could put out a little more sub Rosa. Like the very fact. She's like we wanted a skirt we wanted to make feel Yo- excitements. Why why we don't need that we could figure out what's going on? It is for the dads in the room but again even still like the dads are used to like watching things and thinking about in the recesses of their own dark dirty minds right. It's like putting a low cut shirt unlike steve instead of this when you watch this thing you're getting dirty looks from the other side of the couch right. It's also no you're not because you're so uncomfortable. It was like when I went and took my mom to see pippen and we watch the orgy scene and I wanted to die a thousand deaths. There's an orgeon pippen please. You know I've never ever seen pippen. Yeah there's a big words about an orphanage or something that was leaked knock. It's about please may have another again. That's Oliver Yeah Oliver. Sorry it's about theater. It's Magic to do. He's a lad As an actor nobody joins an acting troupe and then the acting troop engages in. He wants to find his corner of the sky. But the point is David Copperfield. No the point is I went and saw that one then rings Pippin Pippin. No He's the he's the God if he's the main engaged Roy Scheider right. What about Scheider wasn't pippen wasn't he was he? No he was in. He was in jaws. No he was in that we did when we love so much detail by Ben. Vereen Roy Scheider. We're together in. Let's all that jazz t cannon. It's no that's that's cannon okay so I'll educate okay myself about pippen at another time through it now I point. My point is when you're watching that it's not turn on because you're with your family and it's a nightmare that's bizarre if you're watching it alone that's different but like if if you're with people that make you uncomfortable with that so it's not for anybody is my point well again Diane Carroll once he starts singing a song beautiful credible voice great performer like like everyone else. She does what. She's there to do quite well as bizarre and weird as it is for her to do it. But it's all moot because at that point my sexuality for life is crippled. I don't think it's it's crippled your Holt. It's blossoming. Are you kidding. So now you now is. Is the moment we learned that walkies empirically find humans attractive true and I guess that would be part of the Canon of setting up that Han could be married to a looker. Although this is s cannon so now what at the time it was meant to be g cannon correct or the G.. Spa Bob. This is the second. Don't forget this is. This is the second star wars thing to ever come true which is amazing. It's a it's incredibly. Didn't kill Star Wars actually pay. You WanNa hear. It's the third if you ca- so another cannon thing which probably isn't cannon like I don't know if you've ever heard of like the Green Rabbit Jack's I think breath so marvel comics did a long running star wars series but the first four issues were an adaptation of a new hope. You away what years. Well it started started I think in seventy six seventy seven. I think the first issue came out before the movie did but then it grows out of it like Han and Chewbacca. Go somewhere else and they meet other things you just fill out the universe and you get other sort of like rebels rebel ships and other things it just becomes like this long running thing I think ended ended up going almost ten years so there was a period of time. Where new issues of that were coming out before the holiday special but after the first movie had out interesting? I didn't know that Dan. And then there was this new collectible. Full Rana Marvel's screen rabbit. Okay maybe I'll learn. We've had our sex. Let's take on some rock doc. Enroll this is maybe even more bizarro and out of left field than Diane Carroll. But as I say it's a pretty fucking good tune. Oh yeah this is starship you Yeah the one thing that I was wondering like. Did they change did they graduate from airplane to starship. Well you want to get into the cannon. Do you want to get in the Canon because as we go through it. Honestly don't back in one thousand nine hundred sixty five. A band was formed in San Francisco. Grace Slick once Grace Slick departed Jefferson airplane plane. That's when they changed lardy bail in came aboard and it became starship. Isn't Jefferson airplane. We built this city. I mean it's the same band. But I think they were airplane in the sixties sixties and. Then we built the city is starship guess. She's not in it. I guess I'm full of Shit. You wrote that song by the way interesting tidbit that I just picked up David Crosby Ashby. Bernie Taupin Oh really. Wow which he gets off scot free by the way like Ernie toppin. That song is like the most most mocked song of its era is remarkable. Built this city. That's a catchy tune of Matt. Please do us all all and listeners. A great favor and cut in a little. We built this city just for Dannon Chris and There you go guys you still love it yes ask yeah okay. There's an oral history of it on G. Q.. I'll send it to you guys. It's really good. The sweet licks of David Crosby. Actually she was back in the band. I can't believe we're going down this that you know she was back in the band for we built this city will. Yeah you have to have that high soprano vibe who is that you know. You're you're different voices. Sure really yeah. You got to interest star wars. You guys know we got to just to be able to differentiate between the wars the musical. Have we never had that. Oh by the way. Did you see the Buki from Japan. That was amazing. Did you see that what what you didn't see this. No Oh my God. Some Kabuki pissed in Japan just did a Kabuki Star Wars two weeks ago. And it's it's incredible. You really have to watch it with like Samurai swords Samurai swords costumes. They streamed it live on the Internet and is actually really good really compelling interest new like it just shows you that the star wars thing can stand stand the test of time. It's like rocky. That's it's returning home in a way. Yeah true because it's based on all that sure. Samurai Samurai A. Did you know hero stuff. So you've had sex you've had rock and roll. There's some drugs really. Although Hallucinatory Tone Bruce vallance was putting putting into his nose during the fucking writing allegedly accord Nathan. Ravin of the AV club quote. I'm not convinced. The special wasn't ultimately written and directed by I ascension bag of cocaine. That is real well. That's his nickname for Bruce. It doesn't feel to Druggie to me. Are you out did you just watch Jefferson starship perform. We've already skipped over when they go to like the chess set that they have on the Millennium Falcon one of those showgoers. Watch carnival of jugglers people. Doing some mediocre gymnastics on the uneven bars. Ars Lady ochre is generous. I did that. Yeah Chris like sixth grade. I'm Jim Camouflage Green screen. Chris and I will juggle as well as those Shitty Eddie jugglers you guys make some good points. I'm just saying maybe it was that I wanted to hold onto a small boat. Come of Childhood Innocence But yes speaking of child innocence. I JUST WANNA go on record. I'm just saying when I first saw this. Yeah like like one of my one of my friends had to take a and I thought this was star wars movie. I thought I thought it was calling because nobody there was the internet straight. I was just like okay. Well this is a start clearly like yawns in it. It's confusing for a little kid. And I'm pretty stupid to begin with and I heard that this is also true that Lucas successfully it aired once and I think in Canada before the and he was like literally on the phones sounds like while it was starting to the United States and then successfully prevented it from airing anywhere else in the world. Speaking of that day that is pretty great one of the Best S. tidbit that I that I know about this. The day after the Star Wars holiday special aired was Jonestown. Oh the whole way to bring the pod down drinking if you got him it was Jesus. Are you serious. Hundred Percent Holy spoke day. Okay after did they all watch it. I mean look if you want people to stop talking about the Shitty holiday special is Jim Jones Cannon. That's what I wanted to because this was black Friday that it aired right like the Friday I think at the time it was just called it existed to move toys. Let's be real here the day after Thanksgiving they wanted to be. I think the cartoon is good. Do you think the cartoon is really good. That like Scooby Doo. There's just something about that. That's not Scooby Doo Animation Co. lassie animation. It's really really I know that Denigrating excuse me do or Scooby Doo. You're saying he saying that Scooby Doo is not the standard by which animation is beneath the gold standard. Yes yes yes. Fuck you man Dude I. We don't make rolls down. Tail goes into. Scooby Doo frigging have we stumbled on another pocket of Dan's at the Phantom Unaware of saying it's a lush world yourself you aficionado. I know the name of the five colleges that each character represents I didn't know that was a thing. Well then you're obviously not that much. Well clearly scooby. Doo Is Hampshire College. My Alma Mater. Clearly Shaggy Shaggy is UMASS. Ah Is this a real thing or amherst thelma is mount. Holyoke and Daphne is Smith. That's valid tag tag fact this at the engineer. So the five colleges in the five characters of Scooby Doo. Jason mentioned them all but he had some swapped up so he did out fred correct. Act saying that Fred is associated with amherst. Mount Holyoke is Daphne not fell and Smith College now the scooby and Shaggy thing skewed associated with Hugh Mass in Shaggy is associated with Hampshire because Hampshire houses policy of no grades. It's more teaching you the tools to educate so you don't uh have great and that's a little more shaggy asked if you anyway there's your pop. Culture dive for the day. Did all did like the creators. Go to all five five of these schools or something. I can't answer to the origin. I just know that it is just like New England schools like while it's the five colleges the five college consortium is might be like when you what's the consortium consortium is when different institutions all agree to work together of the greater good while the greater good or to oppress. Everybody is waiting for Chris to turn also also educational sharing environment into an oppressive hammer of the star the animation this. I think it's really good. It's very heavy metal. Ask USC yes again. A higher quality than it was actually done by a listen. Let's not fight over. Scooby Doo it was done by Canadian animation studio that I think think then went on to do another star wars cartoon both the walks androids cartoons. which even though they are not t- cannon I think our G can think of wait like George Cannon. They're definitely not g camp. I don't think they even rise to teakamp. Couldn't they made simpler like if it's a cartoon it's c-can whatever the thing about that simple people loved those cartoons cartoon has but they looked really good and this actually George Lucas requested and because I thought it looked a lot like heavy metal. He actually requested that they do it. In a moebius style who is a very luminous love that French artist you did a lot in in heavy metal in other words he was reading heavy metal magazine. Here's a little. Here's a little clip from the cartoon. He's on a collision Russian course. Census Bureau in mortal danger from our own force Falcon to you hobby system. You're right general. I can't understand what you doing. Whatever he's doing they're must be a reason? Hold your fire but the best part of the country and is in the end when you actually do see Han Solo. Yeah it is not it. Looks like a melted candle again. I love it I love you. President Hunter S. Thompson. It leaned into like the surliness of Hans as opposed to to the like showed his contents. Yeah Yeah rather than his face pictures and Boba fats. Speaking of Mandal Orien- episode. What are we on on five four five? So it's not spoiling it for anyone to say that the famous shot now at the end of the fifth episode is rumored to be the return of Boba. Fett correct Oh. I didn't hear that. Oh you didn't hear that is that that's also the one where maybe you don't panic. This is not auto cannon anyway. Boba Fett first appears in this cartoon. Well you WanNa know what so unless she appeared appeared in the Marvel Though he didn't but he did appear. Think BEF- after this but before empire came out in like a parade is a parade parade actually showed a guy in the uniform. And I'm not so activator. Yeah this question. What is the Little Mirror thing on the helmet? Is that like a rear view mirror. Yes we can see is that what is for. Oh oh I thought it was more like a binoculars like he pulled it down until he did you ever pull it down and look through it because on the mandatory and he just looks his helmet sure but he does all those things battle mental oriental. Laurie I or maybe there's a name for it. I like the way that if you're a mandatory and it's like you bring in the credit to the specific place and like rather than taking something for yourself really you get. It turned into like a cool piece of your body armor you upgrade like your tech. That's what you do with whatever whatever you make you. Don't just drive a Lamborghini. Yeah you know what I mean. It's like you know what I'm going to have a nice dinner with this like you plow your hobby I will ask you shoulder guard. They don't make watches out of it. He's like Ed. Just brought you five hundred million imperial credits and getting a shoulder cover now. Well if you really into that kind of thing of like geeking out of all check out this shoulder covers. But then of course they put the shoulder cover on them and to show joe how important it is they shoot him in the goddamn shoulder. Of course Dan. It's entertaining walk Chris. I'm very excited about this next piece. I'M NOT GONNA explain it. I'm GONNA play it and and I wanna see if you because this is something Chris and I discussed on the podcast. Dan Maybe you happen to know about this. Chris if you can identify this element then. You're paying attention the wilhelm scream. Yes scream what was it on that. We that we went into it. Not highlander it was just a few ago. Oh high noon right right because woolley voice of the wilhelm scream and what was the. What was the alligator boy drowns? It's great that because I think it's in all the Star Wars. Yes I didn't. Jj Ban it though or something. Let's not get casual about the use of g cannon. Oh it's in all the movies movies yeah you said that's I'm you're saying it makes me to George Cannon George Uh why g George God same thing as the first letter of George could've come up with a more meme cannon Ahmed Cordova that word is device Lebanon level. Well why don't they do yeah. ABC ADC that would work too. That's all right closing using in rapidly on the end of this. I actually liked to be Arthur in this. Because what do you want except for a number that deals with the bittersweet we regret of yesterday saying goodbye and one life in the past. What what else? What a six year old you owned by universal theme MoD my six year old nephew he loves the work of Kurt Vile and so he was very very into a very humbling? Just run around homeward bound. Friend don't get me and you're just one more song trend so long. A friend venite sketch short scene US just one more time friendly it. It's a crime but you I'm time good night right friend. Good Ni- it is filled with the on we of partying written by. What the kids? I love a little little bit of old Weimar Germany. Somebody in the twilight of their life looking back on all the mistakes and regrets terrible businessperson because her answered one more on the House. Everybody went on that. It's a bad business model of the imperial forces trying to shut her down. She's trying to his Weimer Germany. Why is she giving giving everybody free drinks when they're all because holes because e hey everybody shut down or I'll kill you and they won't leave their putting her at Ramos? Have Nowhere to go. Oh there's galaxy orphan no it's not a soup kitchen international lay station. It's a place where the refuse views of the galaxy gathers to be together. I just think the be our third number is the is the Khuda Gras of bizarreness and her and she does with degree. Yes because with Mike Ned what we call ned and then she pours the drink into Harvey Korman's volcano head. I thought it was like Kool aid. Because it's also like a cheap. The plastic jugs that you like yes. She's giving everybody looks like something. It's like the jug everybody's mom had in the seventies and eighties. Funny thing about the shooting of this scene they shot this in in July. It sounds as it was so hot right. That people extra started passing out there also in these big bulky and there's an auction and so so one of the CO writers brought their kid to set that day because he was like we're shooting the Maas is Lee seen the Cantina from the movie and then he came only to watch Obvious aliens four has very is and was traumatized forever and also this is the first thing that be Arthur. Did after leaving Maude this same year. She had decided to leave your show just this year and this was her first appearance on. TV after leaving the show in. I guess you wanted to expand her Arthur's. Pretty freaking cool. She's fantastic ever her like art carney in this like you. They're they're not sleepwalking through it. Like giving it just as much as even. When did you happen to notice there? She doesn't make one point. You sharing a booth with a big white rat rat. That rat itself is from the movie food of the Gods only because they recycled what was it in food. Due to the gods it was a giant food of the got. It's based on H G wells book and it's about people who end up on this island. They're hunting and then it turns out of the Gods is human all of the. Yeah all of the animals on this island art frigging huge including the rats and the rats they were basically going through the prop closet twenty century Erat. Let's put it on his very surprised that there's no like big bird. Ruth Caroll spinney favorite part. Is that they all have like. TV's that are different people. Universe and data Shala vision is only connected to that person well because the rebels need to have secure calm. So so why. Don't they have one of the Millennium Thal can. Well because about a wireless thing. Yeah they ran the you can't do it to his facial checks actually one of the funny moments for Carrie Fisher is apparently. She was quite demanding throughout the process that she sing a song. I WANNA sing song. I I want to sing a song. She has a beautiful voice she wanted to show it off but then of course apparently she lived to regret the song and then she claimed later in her life when she had parties and wanted people to leave she would put this on and everyone would go home. Wow lease please Jaw We all to gather aw Da I was reading Care Fisher is going through a Joni Mitchell phase sir. She kept coming in and singing all these like sad ballads and stuff like that so he wrote one for like. When you're in the dentist they put the laughing gas on and and you just like disappear into a giant purple cone of fuzz and warmth was very vivid? That's what that's what she can off. Who who who's Lo Samuel had that happened to you? What does the child that so but it was indelible? It was used that anymore the way that they did then allergy allied with nearly. Yeah they put their little bite me by request. Maybe I I don't know I don't request I'm ready to move on to some of our other there segments. If you've covered everything that needs to be Christie anything else in our wars alternative casting. No say it ain't so Chris seriously a few Ah back there were a few people like David Kumba like said he was the first director who quit after a few days of shooting shooting. He recommended Robin Williams. Because he had just seen Robin Williams would have helped and it was and he was like you guys should use this guy. We don't know who he is. Would he be the Art Carney character actor. I mean I got something alien now. I think he would have been. I mean He. Does this Morgan Mindy. Oh Yes yes. Morgan Mindy ended up coming out in seventy eight. which I I believe is when the seventy so ended up airing the same year but at the time nobody zoo a slam dunk especially for something like twenty twenty? And that's when he was born the variety show robin already. I'm sure it's not that he would have been any one of those things. Maybe instead of and he was on at least as much choline is the right he would have been an unstoppable. We don't have the cocaine budget. Both Bruce Valenti and Robin Williams. Yeah that's the Dead Guy's cheese is Bruce Lynch dead. ooh Robin Williams is though this Guy Mickey Herman who is a Lucasfilm consultant who got put onto this. And there's a lot of great quotes of him but he said that I do remember Gary Smith saying they wanted to have Mikhail Baryshnikov and Ann Margaret Involved again tried to think of those are like variety show stands right like ballet segment. Yeah Yeah I was thinking when I was watching this that. The wookey costumes are very expressive for their time. And I was looking at Mahlon. You know I can see there's a beautiful woman under there. I can can see her beautiful eyes then come into find out. It's actually a seven foot tall man. You talk if you shaved her. She could see the beauty of the is you. You could see the expressive Costas Succeed in showing you the personality of the person inside the costume So it's Mickey Morton Right Mickey Morten. Oh he was in legends of the superheroes heroes wonder who he played he probably played Solomon Grundy. That is maybe the most Chris things ever been said Jason Superhero. The character was a villain confused. Everything seems Dickens to me pippen. Solomon Grundy that's how good dickens was shot that's how dickins cannon was planted a lot of seeds. There's something called the billion dollar Hobo which I thought my new color me intrigue. That's in the same universe as the dollar. I'm an please read the summary of the billion dollar Hobo. I'M GONNA guess it's a guy who inherited a ton of money but still rides the rails and then gifts money to worthy people. Hey that's actually pretty good. I'M GONNA go I'M GONNA go. It's the Hobo who finds a billion dollars needs to figure out what to do with Vernon Praiseworthy the is a clumsy but lovable dope who stands to inherit his uncle's fortune ass. Thought the condition is that he traveled the rails as a panelist Hobo. Just as Ogle did in the dark days of the depression. I'm in that seems simple enough which no wait. There's more stop plot maker no need to go further. Well there's only relief five more words. That seems simple enough until he gets involved in a dog. NAPPING Plot Holy Shit. Wait a minute this is a movie or TV show. This is is an epic poem. This canon my friend. Tim Conway get Outta town. Know How can we do. Can this be an episode. What's it called Chris? The million the billion dollar Hobo nineteen seventy seven this year before. I wonder if this pickings with a dog. NAPPIES it's okay not got the trailer here for you. Clear the tracks. Aw It's wrong way conway. And his Danny dog ball riding the rails to laughter in the billion dollar. Hobo it starring Tim Conway and we'll gear when I grew up on. What do you think the guy who started out at the Hobo and then became a billionaire in entry quarters? How movie you Sir? Mr Trains last last living relative. I'm just going to say I'm going to watch this. I mean those are our watch this fall through the cracks incredible. Good Find Chris. Do you guys like to move on to our latchkey. TV segment. Yes this is our segment where we revisit some of the happy and not so happy. Childhood moments spent watching television. Hours upon end thematically medically we try to link it to the movie that we've discussed episodes since we're doing the Star Wars Christmas special. I wanted to play you. Guys a few highlights from some other Christmas specials of note from from the same year nineteen seventy eight so the first one is a happy days Christmas and if you remember the construct throughout this entire special special was that funds had nowhere to go but invented mysterious relatives that he was GonNa go visit because he was embarrassed. He's embarrassed on somebody gets anything. I becoming the model for Christmas Turkey got plans it. What are you doing well And I'm going to walk. Show Waukesha got the thing on Christmas time. The up there being spread they put up a Christmas. Lots of presents. Big Fam- defended the house. Like big tree work found that much family. Oh you know by one eight story was they all knew that. He's inventing this bus that he had to get on to go to Waukesha and so they kept inventing reasons for him to stick around around. He finds the tree. The Santa Out Front is lit up. Bad what would we do that. You'd be up a creek. Mississippi Card be stuck stuck in the snow are treated and Santa Claus. It'd be mugging the neighbors three minutes past nine. Oh you missed your bust Waukesha. Yeah and that's the last one tonight. I Know Finding Yours staying here and I don't want what a year another word about it Mrs. She mother used to talk to me like that. The only one used to get away with it too until you so they. They gave him hard labor on Christmas. Like you're not doing. They were aware of his issues and they were working around them in order to accomplish. What's your goal? Sounds like labor. That goal is what they think is important they. Didn't you know my God. You guys are cynical. Dr Start Way Hugh's Fuzzy Cleaner House. How's MOM and Dad? God I mean that sounds that first of all I was moved by that holidays even context. I was already removed moved moved you welling. His eyes are glistening. We'll say this about happy days. It's a really well acted show. Yes Sir for what it is. Tom Bosley was great the fun I mean he went to Yale. That's true well did Henry. Winkler went to Yale. The FONZ is Henry Winkler outcome on. Can anyone anyone else be. The FONZ has has anyone else ever tried to be the funds. No there's only one fonds his name is Henry Winkler now all right next. This is impressive. Because Chris Chris. We recently talked about Steve. Martin's Comedy Heyday occurring. Really Nineteen. Seventy six seventy seven seventy eight. He appeared on the Johnny Cash and family. Nineteen seventy-eight Christmas show. And did this really cool meadow. Weird Steve Martin bit usually when we do our holiday show. We'll get together together with our family and friends in Nashville this year. Though we're doing it just a little differently since five or six of our daughters. Now live here in California June and I wanted wanted to come visit them also. We wanted to spend time with some of our very close friends. Who Live out here talking about friends talking about me? Johnny and I are very very very close and He calls me L.. Stevo you know I call him. Johnny baby the cashere- call him the cashere- sometimes You Know L. Casuarina. I call them We. We are close friends. I mean I feel like sometimes we were in the army together. We weren't but we're so close that sometimes I feel snapshots as me stand in front of Johnny's House and then this is me in front of his dog and the dog in front of me. The point is we're pal or buddies. We are very very close friends. I think you know what I'm talking. Tonight is men who as much as anyone I've ever known has shown me the meaning of the word friend. A man who has brought happiness just to so many people and whose presence here tonight makes me so happy ladies and gentlemen my Buddy Steve Crabtree. The Janis what's he like community. The finery what they lie best friend I ever had God he always does this to the great. That's a great. Nobody does fit like extreme cockiness so good with the punchline being. He's about to get the gift that's taken out better than him. I think that's such a kind of striking thing for nineteen seventy eight to allow this Meta comedy bit to go on that long but like you said he was a huge huge the man in black men and white deep man. I bet that's how it was pitched to Italy. Hey we got the the men in black producer. Let's get right now this one. Let's remember nineteen seventy eight. That's a little hip. The Johnny Cash. Steve Martin that Sorta for the heads and your family. That's that would work now that we're now moving to Louis. What I'm about to play you now is sort of like when in your grandma was watching? TV This Perry Como early American Christmas. Oh God so it's a contractor Perry Como. In Present Day nineteen seventy eight is somehow somehow dropped into colonial Williamsburg and is experiencing American Christmas and in this scene somehow he some famous survey participants in American history very good. Thank you your kind words. Pleasure me Christmas professor with Very Chrysalis. Listless are we acquainted only by history. May I have a name to call you by Komo Very Komo. This is one of my young law. Austin Thomas Jefferson. How do you do are you Virginian? Pennsylvania Pennsylvania what. Is that old rascal. Ben Franklin up to these days well well. He just invented a new pair of glasses. They're called bifocals. So what purpose Bobin says. They're very practical. He can be at a party. Kiss a young lady and what's her husband's the same time it's early American Christmas. Thank you very coamo. There was little seen thank you. There's a scene before there's a scene before here where he eats. All He licks the Desserts Tri cone tone by double dip double dips in every desert. Now squeezing cold sort of the sound of him licking he's enjoys a man who enjoys joyous foodstuffs. Y The fucking slice or turn down the gain on the Mike when he's licking his finger for walks sake is horrified warfighter anyway. That's all I have Dan. Do you have anything else. That you'd like to hit on the pod Chris. Dan Thank you so much for joining us today anytime. Specific underwhelming Christie's says a good ear for pregnant Polish. Just at that moment hang in the air for everyone man I allows deep man literally just just looked around like I was like I was like a scene marriage story something more just. Wow Christine up for you. Dan was I supposed to. I don't know to my fiance and I don't think there was. There was something that Chris was saying to. You like. Hey here you are like what are you got economy man. I was going for and I appreciate that VIC. This is already we're on. Chris was getting ready to do something he wanted to. Make sure you weren't GonNa do something before. He did something that he needed to do. I guess time was pretty final. Anytime thank you and I said any time. And then the podcast. I was getting ready to do his signature. 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Episode 200: Smart Stupid  Now With Slightly More Stupid

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

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Episode 200: Smart Stupid Now With Slightly More Stupid

"Hey guys it's mike rowe. This is the way. I heard it episode number two hundred yup feels like a milestone nice round number two hundred episodes. This one is called smart stupid now with slightly more stupid and in this episode. I share with you. The true story of aspiring actress. Who went on to become the most beautiful woman in the world. A woman so gorgeous. That movie goers reportedly gasped when they saw her on the big screen for the first time many years ago unfortunately wouldn't know how smart she was or we would have gasped at her intellect as well because her impact on the world we live in really is on example so too was her impact on mel brooks the subject of chapter one in this book and a guy who reappears here in chapter twenty two the guy who many people have called the funniest man in the world and when i say many i include myself and chuck claus meyer the producer. This podcast who helps me unpacked the very serious question. What makes a funny thing funny. And with respect to comedy where exactly is the line between smart and stupid. No one drew that line. More deftly or more often than mel brooks who understood that some weird combination of both some combination of intelligence and silliness is almost always required to get the big laughs. What is that combination exactly. I have no idea why some people hate the three stooges and other people love him. I don't know why are some people delighted by potty humor and some people Deeply offended. it's beyond me. But i will say this. If you ever found yourself live in hysterically at the campfire scene in blazing saddles the one. Where the cowboys eat too. Many beans and fill the air with an unexpected symphony of flatulence. Well you'll understand where i'm coming from. Yes full disclosure there is some farting in episode two hundred and some singing and a lot of silliness and the kind of laughter that leads to weeping and snot and gasping and overall An overall tone and tenor. I think that some of you might dismiss as juvenile. I hope not. Because there's also i hope a whiff of something also breeze something intelligent blowing ever so gently in your general direction. That's what happens. Sometimes when old friends sit down to discuss the moments that made them laugh. The hardest it's episode two hundred smart stupid now with slightly more stupid and it all starts right now and buy right now. I mean right. After i tell you there's nothing stupid about upgrading. Your business to net sweet nothing. at all. in fact twenty four thousand companies have already ditched quickbooks and spreadsheets and all the other stuff that slows you down and upgraded to net sweet. Why because net suite by oracle is the world's number one cloud business system. It's that simple with net. Sweet you've got visibility and control over everything. Your financials your. Hr inventory ecommerce. It's all in one place instantaneously doesn't matter if you're doing a million dollars a year or hundreds of millions in revenue. You can save time and money right now with net sweet. Take the free product tour at net. Sweet dot com slash. Mike and see for yourself how they can benefit your business today. Twenty four thousand companies have already done this. Your company should be among them schedule. Your free product tour right now at net sweet dot com slash mike. That's net sweet dot com slash mike. This is the way. I heard it gesture. Twenty to the twenty five million dollar kiss hedwig was beautiful and married to a man. She didn't love. Fritz was an arms merchant and deeply possessive of his trophy wife at their home and austria. Hedwig was a fly on the wall at more than a few dinner parties. Listen quietly as important men discussed with her husband evolving technologies that would change the complexion of modern warfare. Fritz fritz's guests were intelligent. An influential psalm. Were physicists some were inventors many were fascists many were nazis hedwig. Didn't care for fascists or nazis. She didn't like them in her house or at a table and she hated the fact that her husband was selling them weapons and so as one more dinner party approached hedwig selected from her vast wardrobe the most glamorous evening gown that she could find. She adorned herself with every piece of expensive jewelry she owned. She smiled sweetly during the appetizer and listened attentively during the main course just before desert. She went off to powder her nose. She never returned the next morning. A stunning woman arrived in paris by train. After that it was your basic hollywood. Fairytale hedwig eva. Maria chyrsler was discovered by the movie. Mogul louis b mayer a year later. She was starring opposite clark gable. By then she had a new name to go with her new address in hollywood by nineteen forty one. She was widely regarded as the most beautiful woman in the world. In fact hedwig was so gorgeous that she was deemed too beautiful to speak and was given very little dialogue on the big screen. Once when asked to explain the secret of being glamorous hedwig said. that's easy all you have to do is stand still and look stupid. But hedwig wasn't stupid far from it. Among other things. she was an amateur inventor. A woman who spent most of her free time at home hunched over her drafting table. Her big idea was thing she'd been tinkering with in response to the germans who were targeting cruise ships in the atlantic. Murdering hundreds of civilians. Hedwig had read that the allies were unable to sink german u boats because the germans had figured out how to jam the torpedoes radio frequencies. She recalled a scientist at one of those dinner parties in vienna. He had been talking to fritz about the untapped. Potential of radio waves in the context of modern warfare. Now hedwig wondered what if a single radio signal could hop randomly from one frequency to another. How would the nazis block that. The question was ingenious. And so is the answer. She developed the technology patented it and offered it to the navy free of charge but the us military had a hard time believing the most beautiful woman in the world had come up with the solution to a problem that they themselves had not been able to solve. The navy wasn't interested in her idea. In fact hedwig was told that if she really wanted to help the war effort she would need to use the assets for which she was best known hedwig was disappointed but she knew that she did have the assets in question and she was eager to contribute to help in any way to win the war so to raise money for war bonds. She began selling kisses in a single night. She raised seven million dollars just by standing still and looking stupid over time. She raised twenty five million in today's money. That's more than two hundred and twenty million dollars. If the story had ended right there it would still have made a good headline the most beautiful girl in the world fights off. Nazis with kisses but hedwig story was far from over during a very anxious weakened nineteen sixty two known as the cuban missile crisis. Her technology was finally employed and it worked big time. Hedwig was given no. Thanks or acknowledgment. Nor did she ask for any. But let's be absolutely clear about the enormity of the idea. She had patented not only did. Radio hopping changed the face of national security. It led directly to the development of our modern day satellite communication system and a handy bit of technology. We know as wi fi without her invention. I could have never researched her life at thirty seven thousand feet and shared her story with you. The story of a beautiful girl who knew which assets mattered. Most a movie star. They heady lamar. I'm twelve years old sitting in a darkened theater with my eighteen year. Old cousin who has smuggled me into my first r. rated movie on the screen. A group of cowboys are huddled around a campfire. They're finishing their evening meal when one of them farts. I'm not sure how to react. And neither it seems. Are the adults around me. That sort of thing happened in the boy scouts. All the time but uninhibited farting on the big screen. It was so unexpected moments. After the first part another fart follows and then another fart after that soon all of the men around the campfire are farting and i'm dying laughing nervously first then so much that it hurts as the grownups around me begin to laugh to. My mirth escalates even further. So does my cousins. The more men fart the harder we laugh and the men don't stop farting soon. Tears run down our faces. And i can feel the junior mints in my belly. Threatening a hasty exit grownups laughing at the sound of other grownups. Farting this is simply unprecedented. The movie was blazing saddles. And the first time i saw. I laughed through the entire thing. I laughed when alex karras punched the horse. I laughed when cleveland little said where all the white women at. I even laughed at jokes. i didn't get. I very nearly peed myself. When hedley lamar played to perfection by harvey korman became more and more exasperated over people's tendency to call him. Hetty it's headley. He said over and over again. Not heady headley. Why is this so funny. I have no idea it. Just is i asked my cousin who heady lamar is. But he's laughing too hard to answer. He laughed so hard a snot bubble explodes from his left nostril. And that sends me into another spasm of uncontrollable giggling before long. Were both on our hands and knees gasping for breath laughing ourselves sick for reasons. We can't even articulate and every time that we think we've recovered harvey korman says the magic words that set us off again. Not heady headley. But i got home. I tell my father about this hysterical character. Headley lamar not headley. He says hetty wait. What there's a real person called hetty. Lamar suri says hetty lamar's the most beautiful woman in the world. Really i said. Do you have a picture. No my mother yells from the kitchen. Your father doesn't avid picture of hetty. Lamar my father turns back to his newspaper. Neither confirming nor denying. What does she look like. I ask she looks like your mother. He says a little out of the necessary. Now go split some. Would you'll feel better out in the garden axe in hand. I still have questions. Why don't i know who the most beautiful girl in the world is. How can i be twelve years old. And still be so uninformed. Today i'd google her and see for myself but back then head. He's ingenious invention had not yet led to the development of wifi so. I had to wait until monday. When i could avail myself of the services of our county library. They're under a fog of disapproval emanating from the librarian. Who assisted me. I perused a stack of books about hollywood starlets from days. Gone by there. She was hetty lamar while she was indeed a looker. As my grandfather would say sure enough the caption hetty as the most beautiful woman in the world. It gave the date and place of her birth but there was no mention of anything else except for lists of the films she had appeared in and the men she had dated and so aside from that. Random references blazing saddles. That was the only thing that i know about. Hetty lamar until i did. Google her forty five years later at thirty seven thousand feet. Only then did i learn about the person she had really been or at least the person the internet says she was quick digression. My friend alex wreck of a man but one heck of a writer. He dropped by the other day to see how this book was coming along. You tell me. I said handing him a stack of pages. Alex claims to know what he's doing. And there's evidence to suggest he might be right after reading a couple of chapters. He stopped if you do this right. He said they'll come a time when your book starts talking to you when that happens you should listen. I didn't know what he was talking about. Fish don't fly books. don't talk then again. Maybe they do so. I'm beginning to wonder if any of these stories are all the way finished. Consider the very first one in the book. The one about mel brooks. When i started it i wanted to pay tribute to the man. Who'd made me laugh harder than i'd ever laughed. Before with the help of hetty lamar's invention. I googled him and learned that once upon a time the man who wrote directed and starred in the funniest movie i've ever seen had climbed utility pole in the are. Dan hooked up a loudspeaker and played a song by jewish singer to a forest filled with nazis. That struck me as a story worth sharing. Picture him up there up at the top of that poll. The moon is out. The woods are full of nazi sharpshooters. And there's brooks. He might as well have a bullseye on his back and he's doing it all for a joke. That's brave and brilliant and also dumb smart stupid like most of his movies. As i pictured the scene i saw the same sensibility. That informed every frame of blazing saddles the movie. That led me to hetty. Lamar googling her thanks to mel brooks. I learned that this most beautiful woman in the world was also a brilliant inventor that struck me as a story worth sharing for a number of reasons chief among them the undeniable fact that i wouldn't have been able to write these stories without her invention. Maybe this was what alex was talking about. Maybe here the book was talking back and what it was telling me sounded a lot lake. Keep digging and so. I did and late last night. I learned that. Hetty lamar sued mel brooks. When blazing saddles came out. She was upset that her name or something close to it was being used without her permission. I guess i can't really blame her head. he's first husband treated her like an object. The studios treated her like horseflesh the. Us government treated her like a punk. Maybe she'd had enough. Maybe the thought of people laughing at the mention of her name or something close to it was too much to bear. Here's the kicker though. Mel brooks would have prevailed in court in fact he could've countersued hetty and one but guess what he did instead. He paid her. The funniest man in the world wrote a check to the most beautiful woman in the world because as he put it. She's given us so much. Pay her whatever she needs. Brook said send her my love and tell her where i live the interviews out there online. You can see for yourself. Go ahead google. I'll wait while. I'm waiting for you to find that video. A quick word about my undies. More specifically about me undies. Who just happened to be my skivvies of choice. These days me undies are made of unbelievably soft stuff. 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So comfortable you'll forget you're wearing them me on these dot com slash. Mike would you like to start this or shall i. oh. I thought you were googling it. I was just waiting. See what you did there. I see what you did. There will listen. I was chapter twenty two. And it's a very interesting chapter. Because the hetty lamar episode is in fact episode number one correct. It's not the first one i wrote but it was in the first trunch of stories that i wrote and we decided maybe you decided for whatever reason that that should be episode zero zero one your member. Why yes because. The story is slightly different in the podcast episode than it is in your chapter. I feel like you made some edits to the to the story but the way it ended before was you mentioned the fact. That ed without hetty lamar. You wouldn't be able to use the device. You're probably using right now. To listen to this podcast and i thought oh. Isn't that a clever way to start this thing off. 'cause we were new to the podcast world. We've really had no idea what we were doing. Correct and And i thought oh yeah. This is a good one to start with. Plus it's just a it's a great story you know but the idea that it was connected to wi fi is what drew me to make it number one. Yeah and you're right. Clever is the word we should ruminate on because really this was the part in the book where i was starting to feel terribly clever. You know go ahead google it. I'll wait. I realized you know what. I wasn't trying to be clever. But i was trying to acknowledge the reality of the to screen experience that everybody has today. Not just when. They're watching tv but when they're reading. I mean i don't know about you but people can sit there and read a book you know. Their smartphone is a foot away and whether it's a word they haven't heard before or a or set of facts they might wanna confirm. It can all happen now in real time. And so you know. I'm trying to sketch out the makings of another book and realizing that so much of what i think i might want to write about is motivated by video or footage or something that exists out there in the ether and so the idea that anybody at any time can go look at a piece of video. That's now a shared source. Material is a really fun way to think about how to write in terms of maybe providing a caption to that footage. Right so it all just to me anyway. Made perfect sense that the most beautiful woman in the world is somehow surprisingly linked to the funniest man in the world right. Both of these people had such a huge impact on my life from a technical standpoint and just a joyful standpoint and now here they are serendipitous. An accident colliding with each other in a book that i couldn't decide whether we would be autobiography or biography but turned out to be an accidental memoir. So it also suddenly felt like oh you know click click. Click a bunch of crap just lined up and i thought that was cool. I think that should be the title of your next book. Accidental memoir by micro. I thought you were going to say click. Click click which stupid. Yeah no i i was. I was veering off of the stupid answers and to one that i thought was terribly clever. But that'll that'll learn me. But as we say. Chapter regarding mel brooks stupid is a big part of this art. Stupid right the kind of movies he does. I wrote that down. I wanted to ask you about that. Because that's the first time that i have heard the term smart stupid. It seems like a term that makes sense. I know exactly what it means. And in relation to mel brooks. It's like wow spot on because the it is smart but it's also it's stupid eighth grade smart well for and ryan and i. I'm sure everybody every everybody approaches comedy differently and this isn't really so much approach to comedy as as it approached a balance so like on jobs i never wanted it to be to ernest even though i have some deeply held beliefs about the importance of work and that show had a very real mission. I always try to take the piss out of it. When i could by being silly and silly just another word for stupid and so you know channeling my inner eighth grader. Weil at the same time trying to pay tribute to people. Doing real work that to me was the trick. And so you know brooks did better than anybody because no matter how silly his comedy scott there was always just a big giant message just under the surface and you know i. I had hoped in some way to do something similar with with dirty jobs and now just to bring it back even to another level. Hetty lamar was the first story. We started to chunk out in six degrees. Which if people don't know show on discovery right now so it just keeps coming back to underappreciated innovative talent. In this case overshadowed by preternatural beauty and juxtaposed with my own desire to be smart and silly at the same time whether it's dirty jobs or six degrees or the way. I heard it in the end chuck. It's either laughing. You're not and if you're not laughing. The jokes probably on you. Well let me ask you about that expression. Smart stupid did you. Was that something that you had heard before. Or is that just. Are those two words that you you grouped up together. Honestly as much as i'd like to say i group them up. I think alex did. Oh really yeah alex. We've mentioned before he helped. Assemble this book and was one of the early voices to point out the fact that if i did it right we might actually be able to write a memoir. That's also a mystery a biography. That's also an autobiography. And he was saying when i read this to him. I time he said no. No brooks was always smart but always stupid. And i was like. Oh well those two things do actually kind of rhyme two sides of the same coin. Yes maybe so. That's that's all. I was and that's all i meant to say it's absolutely in describing his sense of humor but that's interesting about alex. Alex also was the one who said that Eventually the book would start to talk back to you which you mentioned in this chapter. So how did the book start to talk back to you particularly around here while in every way It it made me remember the conversation with my dad. After i salute blazing saddles like when i wrote about hetty lamar. I wasn't in any way thinking about mel brooks. And when i wrote the story about mel brooks i wasn't in any way thinking about heavy lamar but then when i got to chapter twenty two i tell the story of hetty and i realized wait a minute. I've already told the story of mel brooks and he's got this running gag through blazing saddles where harvey korman is constantly mistaken as headley. He's head he. He's hadley everybody whatever it was. It was so conflated. I was like wait a second bit. I think i'm supposed to say something about that. And what would i say about it. And then of course the big fat autobiographical beat hit me in the head. Which was i remember sitting in the rosedale public library. When i was twelve years old looking through a big thick picture book of famous hollywood starlets and seeing hetty lamar described as the most beautiful girl in the world. Not a week. After learning that this person through the character of harvey korman in blazing saddles written by mel brooks. Who went by the name of headley. And so i i mean it's impossible to answer that question other than to say that. Suddenly there are a bunch of dots on a table in front of you and somebody hands your sharpie and says connect them. What's really interesting to me and you kids can't appreciate this but what you did in order to look her up and in fact the the information that you got was so limited required you either getting on your bike and pedaling to. I don't know how you got. The i know where the rowsell library was. You know and it was. It was a heck of a walk from your house. So i would imagine you either got dropped off or you or you pedal over there but it but it took a lot of effort yes to find something as opposed to just typing who is headed lamar into a device and hitting enter which brings us back to go ahead. Google it right l. wait. I'm not saying go ahead get on your bike. Ride into town talk to a librarian. Take the quasi dirty soft porn book that you need to look at the stacks. Open it up. Look over your shoulder. make sure you're alone and then cast your eyes upon. What many believed was the most beautiful girl in the world. Now you can do it right now. Yes you can easily. Yes and she was a looker for sure she was though. But it's funny isn't it. How tastes have changed a little. I mean she's still staggering by any measure. But she was. What was the word they used to use back than zaw. Zaw dig asked right. I use that word recently. In san diego i believe justice to you. Yes you did referring to a certain someone in the restaurant but let's not talk about that. Why did i bring that up. Well i'll tell you why because even though she was a soft dig those rubenesque standards. Wow we learn something six degrees about hetty lamar that we don't learn in this book or in the podcast. Which is that. She was on a quest to augment her breasts. Bright and i was so surprised to learn that because she didn't seem to be lacking in that department in any of the photos that i saw she says as hammerstein said so famously. Broad were abroad should be broad and yet also not mentioned in the story but a huge part of the six degrees episode is her partner. Georgeanne tile. yeah i'm musician. Who composed the ballet mcenany whose basic Those player pianos that he used helped hetty designed the contraption that allowed the rig the radar jamming to happen. So you know. I mean i. I don't know if it's interesting to people but when we started this. I really wanted to keep each of these podcasts. Under six minutes and this one was five minutes and twenty five seconds and so we had to leave some things out. But we don't do that in six degrees and so what that means for the purposes of this conversation. I don't really know it's just that we have to constantly decide. Look we're we're deciding right now. What goes in what comes out to need to know that. Heady lamar was insecure about her breasts. No but it is interesting that the most beautiful girl in the world would have that same concern one shared by millions of women today. Who aren't considered to be the most beautiful women in the world necessarily funny. How all goes round interesting. Yes i remember when we shot six degrees and there's a scene where algiers is playing in a movie theater and we we see her. You know in you mentioned that when audiences saw her for the first time they gasped because she was so beautiful and in in seeing her on the big screen. Because keep in mind. That's the first time i'd ever seen had had he lamar on a big screen. Because well i'm i'm not a hundred years old and i'm getting there but i'm not there yet and So i had never seen her on a big screen. I'd only seen her on television. But my god real in algiers in that movie. Tauern figuring lee beautiful right. I don't think anyone compares I mean i don't certainly at the time. But i mean today. I hetty lamar to this day. You can look at her and just go. Good god but back to smart stupid for a minute The us navy all right. The navy is very smart They're engaged in the greatest conflict to ever be waged in the world. It's the second world war and they've got a massive problem. But how stupid could they be to sit there. And have heady lamar's she she and george anti all handed them handed them the key to solving one of the greatest bore time challenges of all time and i couldn't process it. I believe the navy's direct response was and i quote nope if you haven't seen six degrees folks you need to watch this episode. Because chuck plays the commander in the navy who officially passes on the technology. The would have solved the radar jamming problem and ultimately led to wifi. It's one of your finest performances chuck And you brought it all to life with just one word. Yeah thank you. I was thirty pounds heavier than so. They had to cram me into that jacket like christmas. Am stuff nerve. Were you resolve with broad in all the places that a man can be but shouldn't be so. I mean having just listened to it again. That whole tile grout chapter to me my favorite moment in it is just a selfish personal recollection but it. It really was sitting in the theater laughing at that. Fart scene in blazing saddles. Smart stupid again. What grown man would put a scene like that in a movie a movie which by the way at the same time took on race racial overtones. Wow i mean you couldn't make blazing saddles today period. That was one of the questions. I was going to ask you. I couldn't have made it ever. But if mel brooks were still making movies today. There's i've heard him say it in half a dozen different interviews. Yeah he's been saying for for years actually so and it's only get he's only getting further and further away from time when that movie could be made but that was a i mean it was a it was funny. I think everybody found that movie. Funny i don't think today's generation necessarily finds that movie funny. I think you have to appreciate it in the time. It was made what i think. Today's generation much of them would literally gasp for the reasons. People gasped when they saw heady lamar. When is it. cleveland cleveland. Little yeah where all white women at. Yeah i'm down for the count. Yeah i mean brooks just didn't care he. He was so about prejudice that he reduced it from evil to silly. He reduced it to stupid. That abby did he died prejudice stupid. Yes and that's why it was so good because it's not like you looked at the people who were using these prejudiced words as the smart people in the room know the heroes weren't using those words. It was the stupid people around them. And they were to be mocked. We knew they were stupid. He was telling us that it's the same thing he did. In the producers. You know no no. He wasn't telling us that he was showing. He was showing us that yes yes. That's what made i mean in the same way. Cleveland little is impeccably handsome. well dressed like a gucci saddle. he's sophisticated he's world-weary it's you don't have to say anything. He just did so much optically with that always eyebrows where he was commenting on the racists around him with just a just a raised eyebrow and gene wilder to diet. I mean brooks gives a hopeless drunk essentially the and the understanding and the and and the only one in the movie who's truly colorblind. Yeah right is the waco kid you know. He was so good. And it's still so good at at making heroes giving heroes feet of clay and giving villain something charming right and just never never making one thing the only thing smart and stupid all of the time in always and of course back to the book. That's why man. I'd like to take credit for it. I was about to say. That's why i wanted to write the story that i wrote about mel brooks in the are dan but it wasn't. I just wanted to write that story. Because i like mel brooks but when later really later you think about what does that. Act really mean that business of climbing a utility pole in a forest filled with nazis. Knowing your target just to jerry rig allowed speaker to play an al jolson song for a laugh just for a laugh. that's all. He just wanted to get a laugh out of his buddies and maybe raise their spirits and he risked everything to do it. I mean if that's not. Heroic what is you know when i think of mel brooks of course I also think of when you and i worked at the united artists movie theaters and golden ring mall and the movie that played there. What was that movie called mike. Oh well one of the first ones we saw would have been the history of the world part one heart. One was never a part. But i swear and you you're right man. There were moments in that movie. Where i lost it just as surely as i did when i was twelve around that fart scene with campfire in blazing saddles. You remember the inquisition. Oh yeah i could sing it right now but the inquisition. Let's begin the inquisition. Look we've got a mission to shoot you. We're going to teach them wrong. Thrown them right. We're gonna make them say the light. We've got an offer that they can refuse to jews jazz us. Yeah be poor. Ring say yes. Don't be dull. What about the. Hey tor kamata. I just got back from the fate. What's it's what you shouldn't do. But jesus man just i had never heard of the spanish position at that point in my life gets on guests on pardon me. You're pissing on. my shooting. Remember looked like the pissed boy yet and you look like a bush man and then we were still working there. When the history of the world part two came out that that never came out there was history that were part because i remember vividly google it. No there's no history of the world partout never came out. There was no there was no history of the world. part two was only history of the world part. One that was that was part of the joke. I think i thought it was just so funny that they ultimately went back and said you know what we might as. Well make one. That was hysterical. Well let me. I'm googling right now. I'll go right now. Hold on a second she gets teary history of the world part to No history of the world. Part one when google history of the world part to it doesn't come up only part one got so good funny i i completely forgot about. You thought there was a to. I really did because part one just went on and on and on. She says it was funny. What else was in there while jews in space was was brilliant. Jews a lying along protecting the raise right. Yes well you know for me the hardest. I've ever laughed in my life has been with you now. It's tough to be twelve years old with my cousin in that darkened theater but the feeling the the feeling of really losing control right. I mean i want to talk about two moments. You know when you lose it. It's right before you cross the line and right after you cross the line and in that moment there still hope to try and get your crap together and not lose it but but of course it. You know it helpless. It's it's do you remember the mary. Tyler moore episode when chuckles the clown dis. Oh yeah and they and they can't let it's forbidden laughter. Yeah right yeah. Everyone's laughing through the whole thing except mary. Tyler moore appalled by everyone's terrible behavior and then they finally get to the funeral during the eulogy and everybody else has it together at. Mary loses it right. And and that. When i saw that episode mary tyler moore. That made me think. Two of the time. I lost it in the theater now. There was nothing inappropriate about laughing. Hard at a comedy. I just never laughed that hard up until that point in my life. And i'd never been to a place before where i couldn't stop laughing. You know like long after the farting scene ended and the movie just kept playing. Everything was as funny is that. I just literally laughed through the whole movie. 'cause i crossed into that weird space that that that delirium and you can't aaron eve and as roma kurtz yeah i know i i i know that. Can you think of an example of a time when the two of us. Because i remember like laughing hysterically with you many times but can you. Can you think of of a specific circumstance and what we laughed at yet to Oh one one super recent. I know that actually that didn't involve you. That involve me and some vodka and it was the last seen. We shot in an episode of six degrees. You were playing richard nixon yes in fact. It struck me as so funny. I posted it on facebook a couple of months ago when the series premiered but yeah we We replaced your drink with real vodka but and the most clever thing the reason that that ruse worked so well is that we had shot to takes with With with water in the martini glass. I'm i'm literally chewing a dog biscuit as well and so i do need a bit of water. It's a literal. It's a little dog biscuit. They're not prop. they were not prop on skits. We're on a green screen chuck in the oval office. He's playing richard. Nixon full makeup hair slicked back and doing pretty good impersonation sock it to me. Edward doing a beat where we point out that nixon kept dog biscuits on his desk and from time to time eight them. Apparently according to some sources. And we're trying to shoot the scene. And i also point out that nixon enjoyed a martini or to typically later in the day. So chuck is drinking the martinian eating dog biscuits is i'm in the foreground talking and On the third take. Adam swapped out the The water with vodka. You took a big slug. And i thought your head was gonna come off. Yeah i mean and and and the greatest thing he did to was like. Hey chuck when you on. This take really sell that man. Really down that martini. You know i got it. I got it. Well see but what killed me wasn't just your reaction to it. It was the five or ten minutes leading up to it. I knew it was coming and it was very very late in the day. I'm i've been sipping real vodka for the last half hour. Because i just i'd had a very difficult day of stuff i to memorize that show. And my brain was wiped fried. But i knew that you were going to throw all that back down your well muslim throat completely unawares and it just it was already funny before it happened and and i think that's what happens with some you know like when i go see a mel brooks movie today. I i know it's going to be funny before. I even see it so i'm ready to laugh. I was ready to laugh in that moment. And i left for maybe ten minutes afterwards. Didn't think i was gonna get it back. I didn't completely cross the line. But that's what i meant before. I came right up to it and i teetered on it and i and i had to get it back. Otherwise it would have been tim. Conway and harvey korman carol burnett show. Yeah and you know that stuff's fun to watch but it's it's really scary as a performer. When you really really truly lose it yes you get. It doesn't matter how professional you want to be. You can't get that back. yeah well. That's that whole clip. That we put over the credits i think is about a minute long but as i recall it was a good eight or ten minutes that i just was riffing that you were laughing as you were you. You were just knee slapping and just could not could not real it in and of course you know what this is like. Because i've seen you do this to other people. You've done it to my sister. My my mother donna to me where you don't let up on a job you keep your keep pushing those buttons because you see it's like hitting the guy when he's down you know you just keep pummelling with the comedy and you know and somebody's going to either pee their pants or throw up which are both goals and and great reactions but you know since you brought her up your mother restor soul and your sister both those women there. I never enjoyed making anybody laugh. More than agnes and terry. They were mean they were funny. People in their own right but their their their brand of genius was they. They were the perfect audience. Always you know they just appreciated humor. You know even it was ham fisted and juvenile stupid. Sometimes you and i crack them up all the time. And i do remember i remember. Snot bubbles coming out of your sister's knows. I remember your mom. Making snorting sounds rolling around and hold her belly tears years just like real tears rolling down her face but like spring out of her is that woman so. Org wept Not just you're right. It just makes you want to just keep going and you did the other one. I remember dude was in a nursing home. Oh yes and this is more like the chuckles the clown thing because this was not cool. it was me in you and bobby and mike price and we were singing an barbershop quartet. We were just barely out of high. I don't even know that we were at high school. I don't think we were. We were we were seventeen. Eighteen years old respectively. Weaver barbershop quartet. Called the clipper four and we were at that point in our life where we thought we were just so charming and delightful that anybody would be thrilled to listen to us saying anything anywhere yet. So you know we would. We would burst into song and ten restaurants stairwells didn't matter and we finally got a paying gig. I think they paid us ten or twenty bucks to come to remember where it was. Was it stella maris spanish. Now i have. I have no recollection of the nursing home. But it was. It was god's waiting room and it was a it was weird. Almost hesitate to tell the story because it isn't appropriate. But we come this far. We're singing in A common room in a nursing home and chuck's right. It was god's waiting room there were probably thirty or forty people in there and they were all somewhere between eighty and one hundred fifty and they were. They were sitting there. Some of them were present and watching and smiling. Some young would would sing along. We were singing old songs like My mother's pearls little margie. Does your mother know you're out cecilia. Remember that would barely we say no. You're out cecilia. Yeah does she know that. I'm about to steal you our my when i look into your eyes. Something tells me you and i should get together. I know right yeah. I thought that was a chorus song. I don't remember us singing on the court We sang that sang Yes we have no bananas. Oh my gosh did we ever. Yes okay we we basically new songs you know eight or nine songs and we would go sing these songs for anybody whether you paid us or not but the nursing home paid us and they and they brought in god bless him. These these sweet old people and they loved us they. They couldn't clap a lot. You know because they were arthritic in her hands were gnarled and old and they but they loved it. i'd say probably around the fourth or fifth song. A nurse pushed an elderly gentleman. Who mel brooks would describe. Probably as the oldest man in the world right two thousand year old man thousand year old man. Yeah impossible to know how old is gentleman was but he was ancient and he was either asleep or in a coma or just frozen. He was just absolutely still didn't move a lick through the whole thing. Right is weren't open. Also of note An iv that was next to his wheelchair And some other devices that involve tubes. That went into the opening of his pajamas Into parts unknown he was hooked up to machines devices in tubes. He was very old and he was about three feet in front of us where he sat for about three or four more songs. And when we got to the encore which of course. I'd like you remember the song. Of course but i like why on earth would you sing this song in a nursing home because it's the only song we knew that we hadn't sung and every tuesday night at the course of the chesapeake where we spent huge chunks of our misspent youth they They concluded by singing the song which was near my god to the nearer. My god to the was ever a title more accurate than in that nursing home. Now do you remember if we sang two or three verses. I think only two. But i tell the first verse. I mean you know the song nearer my god to the nearer to the even though it be across that raises the still all my song. She'll be near my guy to the nearer. My god the so it occurs to us chuck and i and i'm sure mike and bobby to about halfway through. We're singing nearer my god to s a room full of people who are truly nearer to their god never here yet and they've ever been i mean it. It really was heaven's waiting room and no one nearer of course than the man who has been unconscious in front of us for the last ten fifteen minutes. Well we get to the to the second verse. Which goes there. Let my way appear steps unto heaven and you were singing a solo. You you were singing at and the rest of us were going ooh bind you and it goes a there. Let my way appears stepson to has an and right there during the breath. The old man in the wheelchair exploded. And when i say exploded. I i'm i'm overstating it just a little bit. Technically what he did was he sneezed. He snapped out of his unconscious state and he sneezed and chuck. When you sneeze the the sound you make. I mean anybody who works in our office. We're scare the hell out of them. It's it's a loud so go ahead and imitate the sound. You makes news right. it's that now. Imagine that sound coming out of that old man with something about the size of a large chesapeake bay oyster flying out of his mouth. Yeah and landing. Maybe a foot from your patent leather loafers to call this thing flam or snot would. It just doesn't do the job this. I'm pretty sure it hit the floor and s- little bit enrolled if you took like a the biggest oyster you've ever seen literally and and threw it on the ground it would move after it would slide. That's a frisbee sized chunk of gray mucus that appeared to have its own circulatory system slid across the floor into your shoes man and it's impossible to know where to put that now. Within a second. After the old man exploded sending this projectile flying up from his lungs he went back to sleep. Exact same position. Yeah like like he he. He seemed like he might have died as a result of this explosion. While we're singing near my god today now that brings us to the to the moment. To the point of no return we we all reacted to it but quickly recovered and kept singing and we might have gotten through the song. Except for the fact that the inescapable unavoidable incontrovertible truth of the moment was right in front of us on the floor this grey mass off just awful stuff and so i started to laugh. And i'm singing the bass part. Who you're you're making that use sound like my lips are pursed and bobby and mike doing the same thing. It's very hard to. It's very hard to make make an use sound when you're singing. What while you're laughing. The fact is impossible. We just started to laugh and snort and giggle and you were at. They're trying to thing that solo. Hard i don't i was gonna say i don't know how you did it but actually don't remember if you did it. I didn't do it. I mean i mean was and looked away. I remember it. I think it happened the end of the first first because the way i recall it it was you know with this big crescendo stale us. Oh she'll be nira god to the moment. Well we took good long. Be because in that moment. We had choreography where we lifted our hands and put them on the shoulder of the next guy next to us so it was like this that and then there's the slow raise touched the hand it was knee and and what we normally did was like. Look at each other. We did that and that was the worst can yeah. I felt ashamed at the same time as i've just exhausted by by that level of of laughter. They just wheeled him out. Everybody kind of smiled and nodded and we just left. We couldn't get out of there fast enough. That was our last song. We're not gonna sing another one. We're gonna. I don't even think we collected the twenty thirty bucks right. Exactly you're lousy twenty bucks to the janitor or who's ever leaned his missile. Oh it was so horrible. Oh my gosh. Now that that's a good one. The that i remember a to was Went up my uncle. Harold died and We went to jersey. I was raised catholic. You were raised protestant. So the lord's prayer for me ended you know a little bit before it ended for you right for the kingdom and the glory forever and ever amen. We never we never learned that part in the catholic church and so we were at a catholic of funeral at the gravesite standing there and the priest you know says you know with a further prayer. Our father aren't heaven. Of course we're you know we're not shy. We're you haven't hallowed be thy name not kingdom come. I will be done on earth as it is in heaven daily bread. Forgive us trust in those drastic delivers from evil. And that's where it ends. And yeah well but i was so used to us performing in protestant churches. I knew the rest as well. So the two of us just for the and is the kingdom and the power and the priest is now gone on and every just sort of realized that we were like a half a sentence in forever and an ever and we just kinda looked down and And i was like. Oh gosh and of course i look over at you and i see both of your shoulders just going up down. 'cause you're laughing so hard and my uncle walter god bless his soul and he came over and i i'm pretty sure he whacked us both he did. He was like what is wrong with you guy. Because he's griots. Ar-article arabs died i. I couldn't stop it. I didn't want to laugh. But i couldn't stop it for is the kingdom and the power hour. Never mind. sorry you were saying. Go on father yes. So what's it all mean man. I mean it's what did i say earlier. If you're not laughing the jokes on you. I guess like anything else. You can go too far with it and god knows we have but looking back. That's the kind of crap will be laughing about hopefully in thirty years if we make it I'll never forget him. Yeah and hopefully they'll be more. I mean that that nixon thing that was just not even a year ago. Hopefully there will be more. If you haven't seen six degrees. it is out there. I think it's airing now sunday nights on the discovery channel and of course it's on discovery plus if you're all pissed off about the fact that discovery plus costs four nine nine six ninety nine without ads. Look it's not really up to me. i. I've got your email. I've gotcha post on facebook The world's changing folks you know three or four years from now man. I think it's i think it's all going to be over the top. Honestly i i. I don't have the answers for you. But the world is changing and Contents changing six degrees and this podcast and just about everything else. You know i mean. Go ahead google it. I'll wait but i don't wanna find i just think it's gonna be a totally different world in three or four years and you know i'm just happy to be a part of it now where we can still get content out there. You know dirty jobs still in production right now. You didn't ask me about that. What a week. I had this week. Dude god tell me about you week. Well you were there at the first one. You in san diego. You saw it. Oh that's right. yeah. I was there. I was there in san diego. Yeah i might even make the cut who knows you might. Yeah we did a story in san diego about a thing called a cut suit which is basically picture of fat suit except it's filled with all the organs in body and bake organs but they look real and they they bleed and you know they're the same shape and size and stuff your special operations. They they make oregon's the go inside suits and the suits have their own blood supply and it's a very realistic thing to to help. Train medics in combat situations with how to deal with catastrophic injuries. Anyway i went into an operating room and Took split out of a guy with a real doctor Using one of these cuts suits. And i posted the picture on facebook. And for the first time. I got censored by facebook. Yes yes that was amazing and so operable but of course it wasn't real but man rush look real were there. How how did it look to you. It looked incredibly real. I was actually up above you. They had like an observation deck that you could look down on it and it was fascinating. I mean i really was. That doctor was awesome. He was a good teacher and You know this is going to change modern medicine. This is this is going to make people better doctors before they start cutting people up. It's probably even better than working on a cadaver. Oh it's much better because cadavers don't bleed and once things start bleeding right. Yeah that's when that's when it gets real and that's when the clock starts ticking in the pressure really kicks in yeah They say the guy who invented this. The doctor said he believes that this cut suit could have the same impact on the medical community as the flight. Simulators had on training pilots which is transformational. But so sorry. I didn't mean it or is just go ahead. I think i did. Yeah you're right. i'm. I'm sorry that i lied to you just now. I totally meant interrupt. You of course because i wanted to say that. The what's what makes it. A amazing is that it's not just a blob of organs on a table it strapped to a real live living person. Ricky was the guy who was there right. He was a guy in. He's lying there. And one of the things i noticed is that of course he's breathing so it's moving up and down. Yeah like it would if a real person were there because rookie fact is a real person. Right you're working on organs that are moving with his breath and that to me was like wow. This is so realistic. that's why they blurt it. Well the reason i brought it up is because from your vantage point you didn't. You didn't see quite what i saw. And you didn't hear quite what i heard but you know dirty jobs is a lighthearted show anybody who watches it knows if there's an opportunity for a laugh or joke i'll i'll make one usually at my own expense but we were learning something really important. And you know i've i've got this fake spleen in one hand and i'm trying to stop you know blood gleaning from the other and the doctor is is making a really important point when ricky farts wasn't allowed fart but it was a far as you know like there's fred king was Teacher you know we've talked about it on the podcast but fresno had had a whole category of farts remember the different kinds here is faz peut anti peut like like the poop was the anti-poop was fast and then there was just the far which is straight up and then there was a a squeezed through like the squeezed through right up on you and that ultimately it was the taras is just well. Ricky ricki laid out a classic somewhere between a poop and a fart. Quick that and so. I've got a bus today. Order in one hand spleen and the other in a very earnest. Doctor telling me how we're going to change lives and this guy just quietly. Let's one go and so i couldn't acknowledge it. I couldn't do anything. I just sit there and let the let the scene play out and you know i didn't. I didn't get close to the point of no return. I didn't even acknowledge it. Because i would've. I probably would have looked up and seeing you crazy laughter would have happened just i just never would have got it back but the point is dirty. Jobs is back when it's going to do it was kind of a long run for short slide but there is no point all right. I'm just trying to ask for an hour. Now talk with my old buddy about some of the state ever laughed. I'll tell you what's funny when you're nothing surgery the patient parts and you'll have so are you have to leave the in nearly dropped his spleen tell. Tell them where they can get the book. Let's end this thing. The book can be got or downloaded the official term. Chuck now got you can go either or it's downloaded or got. You can go got my book wherever you download books or listen to the audio version That will cost you money on the other hand if you like to listen to it for free This is the the the place to come every week. We unpack a chapter just as we have done Six degrees we mentioned available on discovery plus the discovery channel dirty jobs. I mentioned gonna be coming back in the next couple of months. Good clean fun for the whole family now with farting in it but not as much as there has been in the past. You remember the old episode. In in the nazi. Damn when doug farted. I was there. I wasn't in the damn. But that's the episode. That i came up there. I actually as i recall with the b. team and we were getting. I was in a helicopter getting a role. Yep we were in a turbine man. Duggan barsky in the whole gang troy all of jammed up like pretzels. We've been down there for half hour and this is smart stupid. This is where we land the plane. It was a smart stupid moment. I'm listening to an engineer described the basics of hydro electric power as we are facilitating a repair on a critical piece of machinery. When my cameraman farts now we're sitting in the mud and it was loud enough to hear and you just have to decide in that moment. Are you going to acknowledge it or not and of course i acknowledged that which point barsky farted and then i farted and then the whole thing. Suddenly the whole it's it's the campfire seeing blazing out is just like that good grief. Now that i think about it man. Maybe that's what this whole life is about. Maybe i'm just constantly trying to find a moment to fart. Well i can do that on any time almost will. Let's leave we'll out. Yes but i mean no no those moments where you're just confronted with something important and something silly something big and something small a little mike. Breaux a little macro and you get to walk the knife's edge of Teetering and either falling into the abyss of delirium or saving yourself and Keeping the train on the rails and not quite ever knowing which one is going to be. That's the fun of it man Well listen. I think that's a good place to leave it and I would say that as a listener if you have enjoyed mike's description of all the various kinds of far inquisition any serenaders. History of the world. Part will go lease. Go to wherever you download your podcast. You can give us a five star review. Tell us what you think. We'd really appreciate it even if we don't deserve it folks especially if we don't necessarily anything else. Mike i'll talk to you next week.

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At The Movies with Arch and Ann

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"At the movies with arch Enam is on the weekly entertained with podcasts, featuring an for today's senior film critic of the Washington Post and me arch Campbell veteran TV news movie guy missing an action, but back in the fold. I recognize that voice. This is your announcer reminding you this is your announcer. I know coming in here like a cowboy trail, I love it. Welcome back, man. Thank you so much. Yeah. Was all by motorcycle. It's right. Mark stern aka Nigel on the Tony Kornheiser show is poking fun at me and joins us. No, not poking fun at you know. Listen, I you got to drive through Texas. And I know we're gonna hear a little bit more about this. I just the the very idea of that road trip. Just I love it. I love everything about it. And I love that you do this later on. I'm going to tell you why I love road trips, and I I drove sixteen hundred miles to San Antonio and sixteen hundred miles back. And and I'm gonna tell you what I do on a road trip that applies to this podcast. Excellent. But I drink heavily is that what you do on the road. Dachary standing the Anna the first minute you that line is that really decorate stand across the line used to they used to have them. Guest drive-thru Dachary, right? Yes. Stations real have discount liquor stores and discount beer shops. And also they advertise Buddha. Oh, yes. I know what Buddha raising my hand is blood. Bloods. Yes. Station louisi- waiver before you eat it. Lee elder era nearest embarrassed. Get your car. What I I. And Hornets tells me she was a baby sitter in nineteen seventy eight the original women. Our women not eight hundred seventy eight now, Jamie Lee Curtis returns as a gun toting Rambagh determined to wipe out the Michael Myers guy, even if he did launch your career and make her rich. But here we go with howler weaned the reboot this. Final this time. Tell you as somebody. I heard something leaving the it last night. Kids favorite line at eight. Dad? Great meaning for you. Right. You know, I did babysit during the seventies. I'm a little bit younger just for the record. Just. Nobody do the math won't be about. About. And I was of that cohort that that movie, you know, how some movies just lodge into your cells because they speak to you on some cellular level of your era there of your personal time I related so much to her character because she was not really a nerd, but she wasn't. But she wasn't a fast girl either. She wasn't like one of the cool kids. She was just this really normal high school student who took her studies pretty seriously. She was you know, she wasn't a she wasn't like a little little Manx. You know what I mean? She just assoc- minks. I just I loved her character so much Laurie strode and the wages lady. Yes. She was relatable is what I'm saying. And so, and then the whole sitters scenario was very personal and. Very vodka tive and visceral for me. And I we were talking off Mike earlier about the whole slasher genre, which I've never been a fan of. But this is the one exception. The movie that just kind of got me on all those lips. You think the audience really was teenage girls instead of teenage boys? Interesting because I notice I don't know about your screening last night, my screening was mostly men. So I don't know what do you think demographically? Well, I mean number one, I think the original Halloween really started a trend in films, which its own sub genre within horror. You know? I mean that that landed spawn Friday, the third all the original was quite good. And then it spawned nightmare on elm street, which the first one was also the, you know, and we think now, oh, they remade at eight or ten time. Right. But those originals were original exactly arch. And and then the the quintessential honor is to be parodied like with scream. Was the kind of imprimatur of like, yes, this is a cultural moment. So so like starting at Halloween Halloween from well. Yes. That johner. You're right. That sub-genre of team. I think before then otherwise psycho like you could say. Aiko sorry. But this started the teen slat that team. It was a part of that whole John us moment in terms of discovering teens as rediscovering teens as a market, but to me, this is truly this equal. It was none of those other sequels Halloween. We're could claim because they didn't have Jamie Lee says this story direct connection act. And I think they did a really good job. I really do Jamie Lee's character in the in the sequel has paid psychological price for what happened to her forty years ago. Now, that's that's an interesting place to go. Well, you know, it's interesting to watch that movie, and I couldn't not watch it without recent events in my brain about trauma about women confronting their trauma and sharing their trauma short and us understanding as a culture how that works in the brain body. And I think she's playing all of those notes, and this is an extreme version of it. She's kind. Barricaded herself she's become a Gora phobic. And she's kind of outfitted her house in a way that you know, it's it's like a surveillance state unto itself with all these cameras and she's armed heavily armed. But I mean, you know, there's she also I don't know if it was Jamie Lee who started the term final girl, you know, the final girl, and everyone if he's the one left standing the one that the killer really wants and after the other seventeen exactly killed we're having sex, right? And so here, she's the ultimate final girl. And I was thinking of, you know, people in the news recently as our final girls like the ones that are left standing to Shay, this is what happened to me. And this cannot this cannot stand unless it can sometimes it does. But no, I thought it was very effective. See I thought it did it did everything right? There was a lot of humor in it. Which I enjoyed I loved any McBride had his hands. As a producer, David, Gordon. Green wrote and directed it. And I think bring back some of the original other actors from nineteen seventy eight will Hatton. That's very smart. They did they pay a really nice way to to the to the original. I thought it is it is there is lots of blood and killing Yeston more than used to be seven. You know, you could count seven bodies, and I lost count after seven a lot. And they were dispatched with just increasingly disturbing into in disturbing ways. Particularly went after podcast. Yes, what my? I say that for my final line. I did not get to see this. I could've seen last night. What were you doing Mark? What else was going? The movies. I and true love the boss red. Five and the screening was at seven thirty. I initially said the different kind of. But I was like, oh, yeah. I'll just leave halfway through and all the rest of it. And I was like you're not gonna do this. Like he ain't going to do that though. So doing that. So with our it. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert podcasters get knife eight. There is a lovely riff about is kind of like cereal, you know, all of these murders. Cast plays a role in this in a very clever way. Yeah. There's a lot of clever twists and Judy Greer plays her daughter. Oh. And who's also been marked by this. And whose life was was was completely consumed by and changed by it. And there's a granddaughter. So there's this wonderful sort of matriarchal line of fierce women, you know. Yes. Fan of three generations that and it's poised to be of this year's version of it. As far as audience goes be huge huge. He clearly did the audience. Enjoy it last night. I got good vibes. I mean, it was if they didn't go crazy like because this premiered in Toronto, man. The the buzz was really good. I mean, people were like God that was so good and so much, but you'd see you gotta be careful of that festival bubble because I was expecting this wild reception. It's like, but I think people especially people who really enjoy that franchise and love that. I won it. Completely punches all the boxes. You know? I think it does a very good job with everything. She's amazing. Can I? Is good enough? Good enough. Good enough. Can I ask one question to you? And this is a buck as you were babysitter back in the day. The other the movie and all I saw was the ad for this. I don't think actually saw the movie because the ad scared. The crap out of me much have you checked the children? And then it's like. And then it's like killers inside the house because that's all about a babysitter. Totally and I've ever seen that with my my my brother, we looked at that. And we just ran out of the room by the time. I came straight. What is that called stranger? What's the name of the movie? Oh, what a stranger this critical. That's what it is. Yeah. When scream sort of did. And when Halloween came out, I was out. I was out of the babysitting racket by then because I had already gotten a job job. You know what I mean? So I was that. That was my I went from my Halloween phase to my high fidelity. I should do that. I should just do like my life as a movie. Great halloween. Do that. Actually, I was already starring hype my hours. My hours. Much safer. Yes. Yes. If you're turns out back. Yes. So, but so I didn't have because but you're always a little bit. And we're going to talk about it. I really going to talk about other hor speaking of scream. When I saw scream I was living in Austin, and I had a house out by the lake. It was dark and I had forgotten. You know, I would usually if I had a screening at night. I would remember to keep the porch light honor have a couple of lights on that day. I had forgot. And I had to drive into that driveway. It was pitch black in the middle of the woods out by lake Austin. And I had an even though scream is funny. And it took the it was scary to in the dark winter by yourself scary. That was the first scream so I hadn't put a yeah. I had a moment. Ladies and gentlemen. I had a moment out in that driveway as a grown woman. I was a little bit freaked while I'm susceptible. You know, we all are. So I think it's it's a horror movie for people who don't like are movies. You think Halloween is I would like to see Rosemary's baby again. And see I 'cause I wonder how it holds up. I remember being just thoroughly creeped out by that. I feel like I watched that recently. And it does hold up. Hold up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With Gordon then of course, the original exorcist that one. Well, and you know with both of those and with Halloween to one of the things I appreciated about Halloween last night was the score that John carpenter on music that he wrote which was so simple and kind of tinny in a way in a little bit. You know, it's just a little since Trach right on the edge of cheesy fitness perfect. Sown s yes, yeah. It's a psychotic. It really. Is. It was the runner up for the song this week. I'll just say that. I'm wondering last night. I was like I wonder if if Mark will put that, but it would be hard to kind of do a needle drop that made any kind of sense. Yeah. It's just it's sort of just over and over again. But as a soundtrack theme, I mean, that's really it's one of the most iconic horror movies, really good. And they used it. I thought it really really well. So what's your favorite harvey'll? Yeah. We all liked it last year. I loved it through. And I was thinking about this when we were talking about, you know, we're talking about Halloween before before the show started. And I realized okay, the Red Sox gave me an excuse, but Asher movies. I'm not it's not my bag baby. You know? I just jump scares. And I just because I see it coming. We all get out. Don't go. The guy leaves the truck, right? The guy is son or driving like gotta go and see what's going on on the audience wrong. They grownup stuff there's one, and it's not really a horror movie, but there's a couple in the sound the song of the day is going to relate to one of my favorite horror movies. I'll save that for then. But the one that came to my mind, and it's because it's from much well my youth. I should say childhood, but the lost boys of always love that movie. I love that. You know? I don't know. I don't know why. But really love that. Because it's not it's funny enough that it's not quite as scary. But there's a few scary moments. But I just you know, for some reason that stuck in my head. I mean, you could go way back. We talked about the shining is the one that scares the. That's the one where I'm like. I just can't sit down the exorcist. You know, those are the one I saw the shining. They had played the here's Johnny clip so much that it was that it didn't have any powered, you know, that wasn't when he's freaking out and again spoilt if you haven't seen it. But that wasn't the scary part for me. It was the two little girls memories. Don't explain that enough. And it's so random and creepy that that's the thing that everything's show up in it, don't they? Well, there's little there's there's little girls little girls in it. And the little boy his brother is at the beginning. Yeah. That's yeah. Sean, and it it harkens back to it. But to this day, if I'm in an apartment complex or a hotel, and I look around for kidding a big win again. I know, I know so brilliant. But I but lost boys for me because I can I like to laugh, and I can laugh a lot in that one. That's good. How are you? Well, like, I say, my favorite horror film is the exorcist the exorcist one that's still creeps me out. And I get creeped up when I look at those steps and Georgetown, by the way, do you know, and this is so inside local the gas station. That's right. And the left of that guesses should be taken down. I I think probably putting up more apartments. So we may lose the exorcist steps. Really? Declare some kind of landmark or something. There was some discussion of the exorcist steps recently. I hope we don't use them. And it's a cool thing. I've I've run the stairs. Once in a while when I'm feeling. Yeah. It's it's a really cool thing. But those the house at the top they've had to erect a big brick wall overrun of it. Because so many people. You know, look in and throw stuff at it. Like holy water. Yeah. The exorcist mean. Yeah, that's one. One kind of a cool thing. Like, it's like I like it when we're in in December. You get all the great holiday movies. You know, they're always on TV. There's all the ads for him. So I like this. I like this time of year. Well, and let's let's also remember the mummy ribs. Took the well. What was the office this grew Reginald loving ours? Did you hear that posters for sale urge that I heard that got a Kickstarter campaign Kickstarter? One. Frame frame. Michael's? Again. As an original. You know, the originals we honor the original. Of course, that was so original because it was about him and his soul mate. Somehow had a connection to him absolately. So the basics as the fundamentals is say the mummy, we're not talking about the Tom Cruise movie from about the nineteen thirty two. Yes boras. The only one the mummy mummy, the mummy of mummies. Should we talk about beautiful? Boy, I was very much looking forward to this. Steve Carell who is really turned into such a good actor Denison grad. Very happy to have EuroPol. Timothy shallow, Matt pal. I still have never I don't think I've ever met the young man. But but you like his work. Call me by your name van also Maura Tierney. And they she is the stepmother, and he is the father of child of a young man who gets addicted to drugs and the family tries to deal with the addiction. And it's based on a book by a writer whose name I don't chef is actually to books it's based on both the each of them wrote a memoir, Nick chef and his dad David, and they this is sort of an Malcolm of both memoirs, apparently and. I would not recommend it to anyone. I it's hard is in the right place. And I just got worn out by it. And then I was disappointed in the ending and the end because they didn't quite. They to me they weren't able to tie together. So they did that worst thing you can do in a movie they go to black. And then they start throwing all these words up there all these sentences all these stats, which to me undermines the experience of you. If you can experience that what do you need all of this stuff for it was? I would not recommend found it hard to deal with and. Contradictory. Yep. That's a good point. Yeah. I didn't. I didn't really like it much either. Although I do think shall amaze performances. Amazing in case. There was any doubt. He's a good actor. I think this will put any not that there should be any doubt. But he really elevates. What's there? And I don't think what's there is like you said I thought it was repetitive. And it's just a study in misery. And I gotta tell you as much as I do admire Steve Carell from what he's done in terms of stretching. I don't this was a good performance. I just don't think that I don't think the character suited his range limited after all which is perfectly fair. But. It's just didn't think it was his strongest. We went from like to do eleven. Yeah. Again. It was repetitive. And it was cyclical, and it's just it's just watching very difficult situation kind of cycle cycle through. And you know, the filmmaker tries to kind of. Earn interest by scrambling the timeframe and doing lots of kind of visually pretty things. But it doesn't really do anything to change the fact that this is just a, you know, it's it's it's a story we all know way to Americans no way too. Well, but it just didn't offering thing new, and honestly, I don't wanna give anything away. But the fact that that that the young man did write a memoir should tell you something. Which is good news. But I wanted a little bit more about how he you know, or why just like what? Yeah. I just needed some more other than just watching it happen. I needed more insights into what were what were the motivating factors both in terms of the addiction. And ultimately, you know, maybe getting free of it. You know? So I just yeah. I wanted more. I since we're going there. I was thinking will he turned his sons pain into copy? Well. Yeah. How the sun felt about you know. Well, yeah. I mean, I do think there's an interesting sort of subtext of the whole thing, which is that this dad, you know, he was a writer for Rolling Stone. He's hip you can tell that he raised his kid to be cool. You know, it's like you're going to know all the right music, and you're going to have all the right taste and all the right things and part of the part of his reaction to the diction is wait a minute. This isn't the script. You weren't supposed to do. This pot is okay. I did drugs. I'm hip, I'm cool. But this is this is going you can tell he's been projecting his own ego onto this kid all his life. And that's part of the issue. And I did think that was an interesting sub theme. You know, I thought that was really fascinating. Because I think we all tend to do that with parenting. Well, as not a parent, but I would think. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna make you be the cooler version of myself. I'm such a cool dad mom that you won't possibly perfect for you. Screw me over, you know. So I. I loved that part. Like, I thought that actually, but they didn't really I almost felt like it was accidental. You know, like they didn't really delve into it with any kind of just I would not work. I wouldn't either arch by the way Timothy shallow may just to give you an update on what's coming out for him next. Yeah. The king he plays. King. Henry the fifth. Oh, David Michaud. If i'm. Then and this is next year. Then Little Women directed by Greta gerwig. Oh, good. And then this is not they've concluded principal Tigra in this. But a rainy day in New York directed by Allen apparently shelved show. That's last. I heard was that they are not going to be releasing that? Well, there you go. But if you're at you know, what really termi not turn me around on him. I thought I've always thought he was gifted. But there was I think we talked about this on an earlier pod was there's a little movie called miss Stevens. That I think is available on streaming. Check it out on Amazon and or net flicks. If you can it's called miss Stevens with lily Rabe who I think is fantastic. And I wanna see her more often she plays a high school drama teacher who takes a troupe of her kids to a drama competition and Timothy Shalam is one of these kids and his performance within the performance is one of the best things I've ever saw. It is really amazing. I've read about these. Theatrical shirt ever did. It says I'm looking here on a limited release in September of two thousand sixteen. So it's definitely available on check it out. It's a really neat little movie. And he is he is superb. Dow two things I was gone two weeks and longer. It really does that's part of my plan. You can't miss me. If I don't. Oh, no. And I started talking about a star is born all month before it opened. And because I had the wonderful experience of that screening where George Stevens junior interviewed Bradley Cooper afterwards. George was just snowed. I think by the old school techniques of a star is born. And then of course, I heard your podcast talking and talking and talking about it. And it seems to have hit a nerve that that story seems to seems skeptical though, I love the old school touches I loved a lady Gaga of who is so fascinating. And so a charismatic, and I love the closeups of the of the story. I think the second half doesn't carry the way the first half fos. Yeah. That day new mall. I was when I was on my road. Trip. I was thinking, well, you know, I liked the Judy Garland version because in her life. She was both characters really good behind. You're right. She really was he was the rising star. And then she was the falling stuff. Panned of. I don't know. I'm just I'm interested that it's hidden nerve. And I liked it enough. It's not my favorite movie this year. But. You know, I salute when something strikes the nerve. And this certainly has. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's really special. I still I still love it. Yeah. And for me, the the measure for me of great movie is if it stays with me, not just the next, but even resonates a few days after that. And this is like two weeks after I was still rolling through the artistic debate. That was you know, throughout the film, and and just certain moments in it just when it when it sticks with me like that that that to me, that's my own bellwether for. Well, I also I think they were very smart to bring it out early. You know to do the test screenings like a month before. And and I don't think there was an embargo. I mean, I think they were just throwing it out there. Tell us what you think. Right. Yeah. And and I think that's that's a smart get that were going and the music. I think the fact that the music is good on its own album is selling and that shallow song is just it's just. Transcends the movie, and so that that just adds to the mystique and the allure and that kind of popular will the song to that is I guess Jackson main Bradley Cooper's character, Jack and means like signature hit. Maybe it's. Yeah. Let the all time. Yeah. They never play that in its entirety. You really only see like a verse of that. Like when he's up on. He liked picks guitar at the track. The whole song in that. If he did I don't remember it. I need to go back and watch it. But I I have downloaded that song. And listen to maybe about fifty thousand times, which one is Jason is song. I'll have to look that up. I meant to look at. But anyway, I think they did a really cool job with the music as I did with Juliet naked. I think both are good examples of music centered movies that really did the music, right. You know, I wish Joe Juliet naked. I think is out of theaters now. And it may be streaming Cran. What agree now, I just it's a crush. I wanna summer crash you'll see it other movie. I was really looking forward to is first man. And as you know, I was gone the last couple of weeks. So I went to a retail screaming at a Cineplex in San Antonio regular civilian. I wanna be a fly on that wall quarry of una plex. I think it's got sixteen theaters and the three o'clock matinee was eight dollars and eleven cents that with us. And here's what I want to remind us. Did you do like Harvey Korman and blazing saddles student fair. I'm sorry. I didn't even have to ask. No, you're old when you don't have to ask for your senior discount. So you know, you get there and they're showing commercials. I got there at three forty five start. I got their set down by three thirty. So you get there. And they're running commercials commercials for TV shows, and then three forty five calms, and they run the thing, you know, turn off your cell phone, and don't talk and don't be a jerk. And then I set through five or six trailers, plus the student commercials for Coca Cola. You know, film students get like fifty five minute. But yeah, it goes it just us long. Let's here's the front of think of the trailers. I saw the nutcracker Mary Queen of Scots Ben is back aquaman, Halloween, Robin Hood. And I think there were a couple of others and there were about twenty five people in the audience at three o'clock on what day week day a Friday. Okay. Three o'clock on Friday. The youngest. Now, if we were diverse there was all kind of of ages there, and no Mark you always say, there's always one in the audience. Yes. Usually they sit right next to me. Well in a might magnet. The audience was so enthralled that you could heard a pin in the last thirty minutes when the moonshot begins and you go into space, and you know, some of those scenes are dead. Silence. Real silence. Thank you. So compelling. I mean, you're. Seat could feel the audience holding their breath and the experience gave me goosebumps. I'm so happy to hear that. So great. It is one of my favorites this year. It's great. It's a good movie. It's a really good movie and deserve your attention. Absolutely. I know and it's not getting the attention. It's really not it didn't open Ticu Yalies up to expect -tations and some people think that that stupid talk about a false flag operation. Exactly flag controversy which was actually it was so Indiana that I didn't even mention I just I refused to even dull Jit over effected. Effected if it affected this movie in any way, I'm going to be really angry because Kanthi thrilling global American achieve. American flags flying. Everybody in the world is is captivated by this. And I we talked about this last week, and I'm not spoiling a pot here because we all know that Nealon all walked on the moon, the dramatic. I thought for me. I heard you say this. And I thoroughly agree. It's the footstep and in the looking up to see the footprint. That's it's like the flag is just like, okay. We did that afterward. You don't need that for that scene. You could have it. But you don't need it. And for this to become a thing now is utterly absurd. It's just infuriating and Neil Armstrong. Was he was a Gary Cooper type? He was the strong silent America, right sixties. And and you know, this is played out against the backdrop of the Vietnam war and everything else that was going on polarization. I thought it was an incredible movie. And I was so proud of the audience. That I set with after wonderful. Through forty five minutes of stuff to see that. God, that's cool. And it was worth the journey. Right. Yeah. That's so great. Commercials. And then twenty five minutes of trailers, it makes it tough. I'm all we can I hope people can get over whatever they're not getting go. See it's the kind of thing, you know, it is we always talk about those all rounders like you can send people to this. And just say go, you know, and I just think that kind of movie, you know, it's just it'll if you're old enough to remember it'll bring it back in a way that's valuable, and if you're too young to know it then it's a beautiful primer. And what happened was an inclusive American moment. I and I remember because I'm old staying up all night with the group of friends watching the picture because it's seems to me like they landed at like one AM or midnight the middle of the night because I remember getting out of bed to see it. All I was my parents got me out of the crib and held in front of the TV watch this. But I mean, I people ask me how old I am. And I said, well, I was born in nineteen sixty nine. April. I was around for Woodstock, and I was arrested. You know, but it's here. Cronkite talked about the JFK Texas play. Because we do. It's remains to me the most significant achievement of humanity. I mean, the great the we did it as Americans. But this is for all humanity that we put a put dudes in a little washing machine and there four days a week to go to another planet. No attention to the flag plows. That's totally relevant. That's totally relevant. Well, and most people who were talking about it haven't seen the movie that. Yeah. It's usually the case. These people looking for a little click click bait and a little purchasing the pundit wars or whatever. Yeah. Silly speed beat. You can read and review. Nothing is not click bang up watching this movie. Kill you. If you. You can read and one of these reviews of Washington Post dot com. I post stuff at arch Campbell dot net. Send us your wise cracks too at the movies twenty two at gmaiLcom at the movies twenty two gmaiLcom, and we come to you from chatter, it Wisconsin Jennifer streets in northwest, Washington. Dc chatter. It's a restaurant. It's a bar. It's a podcast studio. And it's a money losing hobby, or I dare friend. Tony corn is talk about a Kickstarter campaign lifestyle last choice. Truly is it's bedecked with Halloween. I've never seen so many holidays decorating, natural, Nancy view. Yeah. Really is fantastic. You gotta see it, by the way as decide note. Tony we got this on the show earlier this week from Brian Polian. Who is the special teams coach for Notre Dame? He sent in in official Notre Dame football helmet. God with the gold like legitimate Notre Dame gold flecked paint on it. It's behind the bar were done. It's literally one of the coolest things ever. Yeah. So come by and see that an order like six meals just just to help the cause. So so I'm bereft on streaming. I'm brian. Do you have anything to hang your sole goal is over for this season? And now he's Saul. He he became sole. He became Saul in the in the closing moments of that. And you've been wondering. Yes. Going to happen. You could see it bubble up. He was selling cell phones out of the back of his car legally. You know, he's like he can't help himself from being who he is. You know? And you know, he's we know Kim is just right at the edge racy Varna who I just I can't sing praises in is he gonna drag her down. Well, she's not in breaking bad. So I think one of two things happens either. She says I'm going away because you're just toxic. And I don't need you any my life at all. And she just leaves completely or one of his games up getting her killed. I hope to God. That's not the case. I mean, that's that's what we're all thinking. Well, certainly he does get involved with some. I mean gusts. You know, running that methane pyre is is a tough guy as we found out with the German guy thought he could sneak out of this construction site for few days to see his wife, and he found out that the drug dealers who were funding the whole construction operation. We're like, yeah. No. You can't. And it's going to import for you so spoiled that for everybody, I'm sorry. It's been out over a week. You know, there should be a time. Limit for the somebody fries. Tell me they blew up the death star. To, you know, fill see it. Okay. Well, and you need to be really of familiar with breaking bad. But if you are, it's just brilliant. I had such deep doubts. This is gonna work. You know, it's like Joey Frenchaccent. It's like, no you're just trying to scam some money and just keep it going. But boy, they really did it correctly. They did a Jonathan banks. I can't get enough of him either. Everything he does good. Yeah. He really isn't it and this has really given him an extension of his role, which was so good. It was and you wanted more of that, you know. And so you got it. It's it's all across the board. I know you you never got into that universe outside the boy, it's fans on this one. But I'm happy for all of you. Yeah. So you got nothing watch. Now, there was a British version which exactly yes with a sexy vicar of. Saucy? Yes. To write that down. Back to Avoca between things to you know. I'm like, I'm waiting for all my fate like the counterpart trailer sits out in the counterpart seen it. I'm so excited. That's coming. But that's not coming till December. I'm waiting for my crown to come back. I'm waiting for my Babylon Berlin to come back my catastrophe. I'm kind of in that show that the that the listener turned us onto injustice wonderful, but it only six episodes. Yes. So now, I'm kinda like you're like, I need more. So I'm something called the Romanoff's by Wigner who is the guy that leaner, the guy that played Buzz Aldrin. Oh, Corey stall Corey stalls in it, and among many others as a cast of I can't this is on is this on Amazon prime. Doing old school. It's not been Jabbour. They're they're renting out by one by one. I I don't know what it's about. But I wanna watch I do because spoiler alert I interviewed Diane lane last week Niamh. She asked about me. Should I got the feeling? We can talk about that. You're right. Probably about she's in one of these episodes of the Romanovs. Oh, she is fantastic. And so it's basically the loose theme. Is that you know, there are people who think that they are descendants or maybe sometimes are descendants of the actual Romanov family white Russians. Right. Exactly. This is kind of loose. That's the loose connection. They all share is some connection with that family. Whether it's real or imagined, okay? And other than that. I really don't know they have shroud this thing in so much secrecy like I asked for press. Usually, you get a square press and stuff it was like pulling teeth getting the screener, which I finally did. Oh, you so you have but I don't even want to comment on it. Because I don't know how it fits into the larger constellation. That'll come out in a few weeks. But on ously it's a little bit of a mystery about how everybody relates and how they overlap or they do overlap. So I don't know we're just along for the ride, but it is an amazing cast I- amazing. I she's Diane lane. She's just tremendous. Type about that. Because that that story is coming out in a few weeks. So we can talk about it more than when is the Romanoff's available. Is that out? They started it. Okay. So there's like one episode one. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Whatever night it drops Thursday or Friday. That's what you get. Then you gotta wait a week. And I know and I will never try and sway either. One of you to the Walking Dead. But this might give you comfort on some level. The ratings are really starting to dive on this show. I think it and there's a couple of actors that are leaving it after the season. I think the seasons is great as any of them. I'm captivated by every time it's on I just cannot turn away. But I think I think the end is nine the Indies everything has its natural end. That's okay. Can I choose you some Drager Samis arch? I'm looking for something. The Walking Dead. Yeah. I wish I had something. Justice is good. Yeah. But the Romanoff is heard another thing, and I meant to look this up before maybe maybe our production team are crack production team could. Lathering. Apparently, there is a show called the wine show w I n e. Why it's kind of like top gear for wine with everybody is on it. Oh, must track this down like an elk in the wild bringing in hold on with Matthew goody J. Federene any and Matthew Reese, oh my God. This is. Must find it. Do they just sit around and get one? Wow. That's brilliant. Thank read. We've talked about James per floor. Good. Okay. If you need something good is good too. Is these terrific? If you want something good to watch. This is not new HBO. It was two seasons called Rome. And it it's one of an ancient history guy. I need to watch that it is. So unbelievably, well, I'm going to put that on my list, I need to I cannot recommend it highly enough. And I forget oh gosh. Now going to look it up so talk about yourselves for second. But rome. The guy who plays Caesar is a guy that we've all seen before what is his name darn it. Look at this. Hold on. I can think of Caesar. I hardly know be see we can't. All I can think of is Steve corral. Sierran Hines am I pronouncing here in high? He is so good. I Kevin McCabe is in it. Ray Stevenson Zenit. This is all based by the way on true figures from Roman history things to minor characters they build all show around. It's like almost like a Rosencrantz and gilded stern kind of characters. But it's just so well done if you want something good I recommend that. I find that wine wine show. I'm in wine show in the Romanoff's. That's wow. Now, there was another show that was back last night that of course, none of us watch. Because you guys were and I was watching the Red Sox. Oh, yeah. The Connors, formerly Roseanne, right? And okay. So we didn't watch it. But the reviews on it are that the handled her departure as well as you possibly could. They did it with respect they weren't. So it wasn't just mean to it wasn't mean-spirited wasn't like when Charlie Sheen. Right. Yeah. And it wasn't like chef on south park. When when Isaak's left that this was done with dignity with respect. They didn't them using a bad metaphor kick that corpse around. I guess the storyline was something that she Odid on prescription drugs. And so there was that scene that they were dealing with. And it takes place a few months after the funeral and after the death. So it's how the whole family is reacting to excuse me, dealing with it. And from all accounts, they did a very good job of it. And there are some quarters that are saying, maybe the show is better than what I was eating, but I was just kind of dipping in and out. But my my impression is some people do think, it's even stronger. It's more about the characters now than about Roseanne Roseanne was so white hot that gives hard to see past. I mean, she very sense. She was that care, right. Maybe it's more of an ensemble. And what a great on samba Laurie Metcalf. John Goodman, right? Yeah. Terrific casca. Johnny lucky. I guess is coming back in it. And Mary Steenburgen was guest starring it. And again, I'm just getting this as the woman that supply the prescription drugs to Roseanne seen some of the trailers some heated back and forth with John Goodman, and her character. So it looked motion. But I'll be honest with you. I've never been. I'd never watched that show. But I'm going to go back and watch that. Oh, and I also want to say I did get a chance to watch free solo. Oh, my oh. Have you know, greener? Oh, my plan to while. Archie got. It's it's an award contentious Tony every and doing very well at the box. All go the moment. There's a moment closure years March where he he meets the people the there's like all of a sudden out of nowhere is like couple of folks, you know, spending. Just can't even believe that you're seeing you can't there are moments where you just cannot believe what you are seeing. It's wild. So good. I'm glad you caught up with. Yes. Thank you for that. Is it music time? It is music time. I had a song. I was going to suggest. Maybe I'll it to you. Right. A require. Okay. We'll talks ourselves fine. Well, I hope you. I hope you watch Rome. I really I'm going to watch I know him classics keep Trump, but I just I love the way that they did it. They really did a great job of it. And how you pronounce his name. Sharon hines. I always think sh what do you think arch? Sharon, Sharon, Hahn, negative, Cheryl Hines. Cheryl. Hi. Larry, David Zenit. Yeah. It's. By the way, I was making a joke, and I'll I'll test this with you guys. I want to do this in my neck stand up. So I was thinking about how every time anything from ancient history. Everybody's in a British voice. All they do the antics. Shakespeare, and I was like wouldn't it be great? If instead of that, they did like the stereotypical bad Italian voice friends. Oh, man. Leucopenia, and I can't tell this pronunciation, it looks like it's. Really obscuring. Wow. Wow. Even more confusing. All right. How we're going to share in just Marcus. Sorry arch arches handling this. No, no. Horror movie. I mean October mode read what you wrote. Well, sure. Well, I man lunar rhapsody. Yeah, by Baxter is that who that was Vanni Toronto. So perfect for that. And by the way, it was Jason is bell. That wrote the song from that. We're talking about left at good times. Whatever it's called now. Yes. Other one care on. Yes. Oh, secure on here on or Kieron Keiron. Karen, Keiron cure on heireann Hines to run on names brilliant as Caesar. So this is our soundtrack song of the week. You're gotta get this one in one note, really? Oh, sure rice, they're young credence. Clearwater revival. Right. By the way, the critical commentary on this song. This was releasing. Let's see April of nineteen sixty nine John Fogerty reportedly wrote this after watching the devil and Daniel Webster. I'm sparked by seen film involving a hurricane forty four claims. The song is about the apocalypse. That's going to be visited on all of us. Birth. Yeah. They did read after I was born this. I'm playing the song because this is from the soundtrack of I think my favorite horror movie of all time where wolf in London American world in London which used sound as before the show and was one of the first movies. I counted that was like whether these in soundtrack and a great way you'd blue moon know, a couple of versions of that you had this, and it just it just worked on every level for me. It was it's a lot of comedy. But also, very scary. And I remember seeing that movie and being utterly blown away by it and just really really loved. I think Griffin Dunne is only note from that. Did not play the lead. I forget the guy who played the lead. Hold on. I have it right here. It was David Naughton. Dan. Yeah. So a lot of good stuff. Yeah. Eighties. But just to it's one of those movies that kind of gets lost in the cracks of it's time and directed by by the way, written directed by John Landis. And I think he's deal was that he'd written it like a long time ago. And oh, yeah. He'd written it when he's system on Kelly's heroes. He and fellow crew member were driving in the back of a car when they came across a group of gypsies, the appeared before Ming rituals on a man being buried so that he would not rise from the grave, this realized would never be able to confront dead gave the idea for this movie in wrote it and sixty nine but shelved it for ten years. And it wasn't until he had some success with other stuff like the blues brothers in Kentucky Fried movie that he finally got Greenland project. So just just to kind of a cool rock and roll horror movie from back in the day. Do you guys have fond memories of just me? No, no, no. I remember it was kind of a of an update of thirties. Yes. Or the will. And and it tweaked it with contemporary music and contemporary actors, and it had a lot of humor to it. And and yeah, I thought it was good. I don't think I watched the. I know there are gaps in my movie knowledge because when did it come out eighty one eighty college see when I'm in there like my whole colleges, I didn't see many movies because I was at school. I was aligned and we didn't really have a big we had like a little art house theater in our little town Northampton, but I don't remember going to movies just movies weren't that big deal back then. Ludi crazy the way we are. Now movies were very cool. He's coming into their own in the late sixties and seventies. And you could see things in the movies that you couldn't see on TV. And by the way, wasn't a big part of our cultural life in my at my school for some reason. It's just so I do a huge well in four four younger extras who listen, we didn't always have this thing called cable. He's word coming out that you could see three months later or streaming or anything like that back. Them in theaters. And then they vanish head, but we were going to like art movies. You know what I mean like? What I mean like ring in king of hearts, and I remember seeing my brilliant career, you know, stuff like that. But we weren't seeing may exactly and they would show foreign films on campus. But we weren't going to go see the movie that was coming out on that Friday at all at all. It was just not a part of our life. Those the Truffaut movies when they came out. It was a big deal from France Shino, people would go and watch them and think nothing of the subtitles, good luck. With that. I want to very briefly mention my road tar yet. And why I like road trips because I sit there, and I do my best thinking as I'm driving and listening to the radio and thanks to serious. I listened to a bunch of really odd stuff. I heard a nineteen Forty-five recording of Carmen from the Metropolitan Opera, which was amazing because you could hear the the singers dropping around because they didn't have the kind of microphone. We have. And then I discovered the classic radio channel. That's my fav-. I heard cost Selo in nineteen thirty five broadcast of the Lux radio theater. This is why wanna mention it. The host is sesame demille. I'm not familiar with him nineteen thirty five when they moved to Hollywood and their deal was they would remake movies as radio plays. But they couldn't always get the same actors. So they would cast different actors in the radio plays of these movies. So for instance, they did a production of CASA Blanca with Alan Ladd and Hetty Lamar goodness. And you know, it's just it's so the show I heard was called the legionaire and the lady which was originally the movie Morocco with Marlene, Dietrich and. Gary Cooper, this performance Dietrich and Clark Gable? That's so cool. Ed. So after the show demille interviews the stars and gabled comes up and says, Mr. Gable a thousand hearts are pumping because you are here, and my young assistant gave me a screen test of you. But the studios at your ears were too big. And then Marlene Dietrich comes out. They interview them separately not together, and these misdee- Trich your so beautiful and to such an honored have you here and our audience would be so grateful if you would sing your signatures on from the Blue Angel falling in love again. She says, Yes, Mr demille would be happy to do that would be accompanied by the composer of falling in love again, Mr. Frederick Hollander. He starts on the piano, and then Dietrich literally drops her voice on octave. Noon rule of again. To do never vaunted to can help an all I could think of was Madeline Kahn. Saddle. Hello. How you doing? When you said, hey, Lemar of things at Hannity heavily people. Brooks. For generation. Well, a her, you know, Madeline Kahn's imitation was spot. Perfect. Oh now, I wanna see that again. Genius. That is so. For the trend. When else would you do that when you're dry driving you like this miles? You're like I got this for the next few hours. Yeah. This is perfect. Can I give you a little recommendation? Yes. Yes. I don't know if we've gone there yet, I do have sleep issues. Sometimes I find it hard to sleep. Sometimes I find it hard to when I wake up to go back to sleep hard to wake up. That's my. That's also. Well, when you when I've had trouble, but I discovered BBC there's a BBC radio app. Bebo rare. Yep. Did you like the theatrical chased certainly do I play radio BBC? It's it's awesome. And I've been listening to there is a series on there. Hold on. Now. I'm gonna look at it. Because it's with Bill Nye, oh van is much phone it. It's night, Bill Nye. Yes. My favorite Bill Nye who should have gotten last year. Yes. Yes. Nine cool. Okay. Was it called Charles price is they changed the list every few weeks. So now's not even on there anymore. But check it out because there's all these different. You know, there's a there's the Saint there's the old. Oh temple. Yeah. Simon templar. Oh. There's this long running soap opera soap opera called the archers that I'm completely addicted to now and they're classics or modern all of it. Million things on love it. It's just fun to scroll down and try different things. It's really fun. What's being see radio? Yes. It is the name of the thing is on. I'm gonna start playing it. You don't need that in your life. I player radio BBC. I player radio. Okay. And I've got a recommendation for you on my automatic my audible app audio books. I listened to of on with great frequency the actual production of jest in when I love that story Colston PC, Ren. But it starring Laurence Olivier, which is pretty cool. And I think Orson Welles directed the whole thing. So it's like, yeah. It's pretty cool the checkout so mania fans to. I love those sounds great arch. So we. Was just so having just drive. Yeah. Listen to Marlena. Clark Gable rolls by then I heard Jack Benny perform brewster's millions. Great is that rates? That's great. So we've got some emails. As you said before the address at the movies twenty two g mail dot com. This from a Patty Tatum we've heard from her before. Hi, guys love the podcast from October fourth the discussion about the Texas hill country just brings back memories. I lived in Kyle which is just outside of Austin. And my son is still in San Marcos beautiful. I think of bananas the Woody Allen movie when I hear about San Marco. If you want to miss, the crowds, but get great barbecue go to Kent blacks in San in San Marcos. They have another location Lochore. I always bring a large order to Louisiana when I'm in from my Amil annual visit quite says used to be. Quite says used to heart. That's quite but now blacks is considered because the crisis family moved up to a new place. Right. And there was sort of a split. Okay. Blacks place, and then, you know, the place. I went Louis Mueller, which I sent you a picture of. Yes, that's sort of the granddaddy because the guy from Franklin came there. And learn at the seat of the master. This all the way from England Dave in bury Saint Edmunds England. Dear an arch and Mark I've been meaning to tip you off to this show bodyguard from the BBC. Okay. Db drama series that I believe net. Flicks has picked up you won't be disappointed, buddy. Okay. 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There was some reference to one of their silent films where he goes to the dentist and the inhale a lot of laughing gas. Sues? You know classic. Good ole the Google and ipad. Yes. So, but yeah, I can't wait for that. Can't wait, and I see Riley as the party looks. I mean, the the makeup work. They did. He just looks fantastic. Looks fantastic. Dave on that. Let me look that question. Let me look you guys you guys give me your under the radar recommendations. I'll look that up. Well, I'm going to jump in again and go for I man, I'm just I was just so impressed and don't overlook it's will it gave me goosebumps. Do you know I'm going to? I'm just going to reinforce that for mine. And it's by the way is incredible interesting character Janet is and the way she plays. Her is just it's great. It's like I've never met that person before you know, the kind wasn't quite key little wasn't a cookie cutter back a little bit of she has to now gives them what for. No, you're talking to them. I'm not, you know, I just loved that. It's at the Avalon, which is even it's just like, you know, it's fun to go. See that. An I max if you can. But it's also I think seeing it at the avalanche would be really really special. So that would be my pick of the week. Good mine. This is a movie Liam Niessen. Did I think it was last year? It's called the commuter. I love the. No, I'm gonna stick with in the in the Halloween mood. So I'm going to go. I already talked about a couple of ones I like. But this one isn't really scary movie. But it counts for Halloween. Go back and watch young Frankenstein. Oh back in. Off of guarantees people out there that comes on, and it's black and white and the black and white watch it. Okay, watch it. It's when Mel Brooks had his ninety nine mile an hour fastball. Gene wilder Teri Garr Madeline. Von it's just the scene. Whether Clore spin. When they're with us my boyfriend. Yeah. Put seem we're Madeline Kahn. And and gene wilder are saying goodbye on the train platform. Tappita is it's. So you know to your uncle Marquis, watch it watching. Okay. Does that leave us a our final words closing lines? Will may I quote an Hornets? I'm waiting for my crown to come back. That makes it sound. Like, I've got dental problems. I'm going to quote from Halloween. This week's Halloween just say, we're making a podcast three thousand sound. Got it. When you. And I'm gonna quote, I think it was u n we need is a sexy. Baker saucy may. Hey now.

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Cliff & Tracy

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Cliff & Tracy

"Well I guess we're back. Are we back our we just officially back now? Back right we're back. We don't know if it's physcially back. But I guess we're back over doing a podcast quarantine. Podcasts yeah maybe I think it can be the last one. I think it's going to end pretty soon Either to last podcast we do. Or it's a less podcasting Corinthian. Yeah because this way we can get other guests not that I don't love talking to you talking to me. There's so many things in anger that will never run out of things to talk about the highlight of my day. Sitting here with you talking. I know I know But not the way we have guests anyway. But we'RE WE'RE GONNA start joke. Hoyas called me as you're doing. I think he you know he was just killing it on tour. Can you imagine? He's at the height of his career. He's at like seven out of twenty thousand people in stadiums and all of a sudden. They said. You can't do that anymore. What I've only waited twenty five years for this. I know God bless they'll the fans will still be there back. Oh come back come back to lower ticket price for a little bit but then you know. Hopefully everything will be back to normal. So what are you what are you have? This is wanted to show you that I think this is Simon. Today's show's brought to you by this game. It's our new sponsor our new non-paid sponsor Simon. So I think there's a possibility that this Medical Marijuana and also of fifty plus years of abuse is affecting my says uh of the assignment just said let me again is affecting my brain. Everybody knows that sound so fine because we played this back in the unlike the eighties maybe seventies and I wanna see I wanna see how I know I can do a thousand four to three. I'll come back in like an hour so you. Maybe she'd go get launch or some killing to be here for like an hour. Wow Z. here comes this. This is the best I've ever done is you've ever done. I'm very very proud of you. Battling his the pressure's on the cameras on I know You're killing edge. Jinx me funding. How many how many get one two three four five six seven a nine ten? It's pretty good for me for somebody's you didn't break my record terrible. No you do it. Now come on do it. I did ten though. That's like amazing because I literally did like several force fours like in. I don't know I can't think of more than a because it's confusing because there's four different colors is there too many. And that's like you can't keep track of four. Four seconds to our brains are dead brain fried. I'm proud of you know I'm sick of brain problem when I'm proud that there was I attend. Yes which is like the most I've ever done I can't believe it okay so So that we've been playing that yes and And and this is a weak. What five of this I don't even know what they say they so he's twenty first okay because yesterday was like marijuana Monday. Oh because it was like a four hundred twenty. I don't know how that got like Earth Day and we day and converge to become like marijuana. Mondays was So what what did you bring up to Mr Schneider? Well I have been. I think it's There's a way to end this Because people starting to protest now people are saying enough. I want my life back. I Want My. Ruth's touch touched up. I want to go to the dentist and get my teeth clean. I need a haircut Yes you do shave. I heard that drake say there had the greatest joke about that. He said his girlfriend's at Let me give you a haircut because you do that is it. No but I've never done it before but I got some really good ideas and he said Oh. Yeah let me give you a PAP smear. I've never done it before but got some really good ideas too. Funny Comedian well. I I've given haircuts three kids. I know but this different like long flat hair and it grows like weeds. You're right Myers like parachuting off my head Vada enough and the ones that are staying are just like you know staying behind their degenerating there colors and they don't have enough energy to stay black so they're going they're going gray on me now. That's all right. I look distinguished. You look very distinguished so now what have you been doing during this thing now because I seem to see you cooking and cleaning now. That was tough right. Hasn't been tough the cleaning part. I got to tell you. I've never suspected our house helper more than I've always loved her and everything. Emily love you but like I don't know how she does like in day. She has a system. I mean it's like I swear you know what what what's part of a system. She doesn't get distracted by her phone. Is that what she does? What happens with us? I think we are like doing dishes. What are you into instagram? I'm into instagram. Yes now what? What specifically are you checking out on? Instagram is just the dumbest things like check like on my friends lay. What they're doing your friends. Yeah what are they doing by the way posting pictures of their children? I think there's actually you're bored. You really are bored. Yeah like important. Now I'm getting into tick tock finally like after all these years that going into the funny one the other day yes and it's fun and it's like five people talk. I don't even know what. Let me see call done. I think is the same Patricia. My Patricia My Patricia. A So my favorite thing in this hall quarantine is a rich celebrities rich celebrities saying hang in there people. We know what it's like. It's tough for us to and our Jacuzzi. Yeah it's hard for us. Sorry for us in our big gigantic house. It's hard for us because all of our are gone. And we'RE GOING TO SUFFER FOR WE'RE GONNA have to get our own food out of the other fridge risks. I know there was this terrible video that was put out yesterday by the Republican side of the politics is only we only get two sides in America for three hundred thirty million people you can only have two sides so anyway they put out this terrible video of like Nancy Pelosi eating ice cream. People are like she's like I have chocolate ice cream and I don't know what I'd do without chocolate mint ice cream till like a huge twenty four thousand dollar freeserve frigerator you know. She lives in San Francisco and it just like and then they showed like lines of people waiting for food and stuff. It's just a bad luck. It was a bad look but I don't think she saw where I don't know she's GonNa use it was going to use that video of hers for some fundraising for the Republicans but it was just it was just the versus Nasty Bell. It's very nasty nasty. I've never seen. That was the worst thing that someone can do like. I think if you want to go into politics you must be like a frigging saint. Almost because they're going to they're gonNA find shit. What Shit with the like the worst thing that they could find out probably for like for me? It would be like some like movie that fell apart in some lawsuit or whatever. You know some money that was you know that was brought over from some East Asian country that I had that I didn't know about did know about and didn't WanNa know about you know that's that's it. They'll be questioning. My citizenship ran for for office. Because you can't run for president because you know you're not born here so you you have to be over thirty five so you're in there. Come on guys but what fake. My documents pretend that I was born here and they've flying at you know like once. I'm getting really close out. Yeah I don't know if they kick you out. We did see that. Show the other night so that Netflix show. And we've been working out by the way and not every day I wanted to last night but it was one thirty in the morning and you said no of course not you have to come and workout without bothering me. Okay when I'm at the one thirty sleeping already just because you're cooking cleaning homeschooling and taking care of the kids giving them Bass and reading them stories you saying that. I can't interrupt your sleep. Yes that's correct workout at one thirty in the morning because I'm bored. What the story is the time that I have to work as I was working at midnight and one of her kids came because she had a nightmare and they do you think she had a really nine. She's like I wouldn't call her liar but I think this one was a little lie. What did you say the dream was I? She didn't tell me I didn't get into details. I was like getting bad. Is the bike. I like that guy in my office here. I got a text saying the panthers in bed with us now did you. Did you see panda alert? You didn't get enough. Did see that. Yeah thank you yes but I am writing some new jokes yes because I I need. New Jokes Yes you need a new act. The y'all ready. Yeah I have a comedy special talk about it. Yeah but that already. So you're GONNA be able to use all those jokes and so these are the some new ideas I've got here before I get into this though. I think we'll end this thing really quickly. Okay Quarantine tell me Mr expert because I think people on ending pandemics. I think it should be like you know the Greek story. Lis- LYSISTRATA okay. Yeah Yeah it's it's usually you know that very well. Yes because I remember from my From philosophy classes in the early eighties. The name of your teacher Dr Palmer. Thank you from Oxford. Yeah and I don't know what he was slumming in my junior college but he was there. Because it's beautiful the live in Kent and Ross California Marin County anyway the story I remember really well it was call lists and that's the Greek story where The Greek I guess it was a play. Yes play Greek. Play written when when was that written Like I don't know a couple thousand years ago maybe four hundred years before Christ exactly good. Yeah I gave you that these of information before starting to show. I'm glad you're retained it as good as you retain the thing I wanna see. You do. Tend before the end of the show you watch. I made a mistake at the end. Just so you wouldn't feel bad okay. So let's Estrada was the Greek Play about Women being tired of their men going off to war. And these these futile bloody wars. And so they said they're going to do a sex strike and so they're not going to have sex until this war ends. Yes and then did end. And the POI- Yes. It didn't but it wasn't that easy. Because man were forcing their women to have sex and they were beating them six in the way or to listen strep in real life so nice to mighty you by the way. Oh I'm just saying in general now you try your dry ones and see what happens. So what LYSISTRATA was you know helping out with? This is the part that you're gonNA love. Can't wait for like if women were beaten. Well we're encouraged to to cut the knicks off of so. See How nice. I empty your very nice I appreciate. I do every day shave everyday. Wake up and still have something standing between my legs. I appreciate that every time I go. Thank you even more so but that. Don't you think that if there was a sex strike Corentin Yeah the the governor's wife said that's it no more well but they would have to be like the wife and their ten lovers. That's more to the S. All right you're right about that. So what what was that noise kind of weird thing? Maybe we gotta be phone. Maybe your phone now zapped by the Mayor Happen Again. Turn your phone off mine. It's all mine is like the FBI GONNA cut the. That was like my favorite noise during game shows. When I was a kid he knows like had like match. Game Seventy Five. That's all I am. I come home from school. And you'd watch it'd be like on. Cbs there would be like A game show that he the date d they have like the very thin little microphones doing well now that I like to ask Nipsy Russell. If there was a lake that had some whoopie was always like whippings that same sex. What would that Lake be wearing? Something like that Ngong Milan. But he does some kind of Ram valid we lag wherein something went if you know what I'm saying and they'll be like ha ha and then they would have if he was and then they'd have to match. The person would have to guess what he was going to say and they wrote it down and it was wrong. You'd hear that noise. A universal sound for being wrong right like they say they agreed in all contexts. That's going to be the in Mexico's the same sound. It is the same exact sound so we'll be like an example of something like a game. Show that sound would be used for. We had a couple of good ones. We have like the good ones for kids. There's this show cello and it's an old show in poor guy. They always make fun of live. You're making what is because I've even heard that joke many times you know. What is the joke? Explain well is just. Torello has been around for a long time. Thank God you know. He's a long life and And he started his career young with the same character. The characters Chubby law is supposed to be a boy a young boy and they said that the only boy with Barak Asus does that. Funny Dance Right. No no no. That's the other Guy Kiko. No he's still alive. I think I don't know I don't know but anyway cello had a contest for kits and A game show and he had this this Lather those suspended ladders wasn't even what you have to like. Kind of like balancing them and he would ask you like. So what are you one? You once islands. Are you in noise? Interview said silence so you can get concentrated. Qb Good like all right so we're GONNA saw a lot of noise using the wartime winds money. Will you yeah when you fell? And then they also did the other one unlike ank- An and what is that one. It was more for like a musical game shows if got kicked off at like They had that This one where you can kind of Before the talent shows there was this really crappy talent show. There used to be like a real talent show. Which is like Ed Sullivan? Back in the fifties and sixties. Right and ED ran for like for years and years and years allows a variety show. And then they had like A really crappy one where they would like the Gong show and then if some guy would come out and you could be like literally like juggling spoons raking catching forks with your forehead or something and then if if you got. They'd have three goofy gene. Shalit was one of the he was like. You know one of the judges. He was like a critic. Movie critic Big Mustache us. That's what he's more famous for. Being critic was his big Bushy Amazing Mustache. She had and then if if they didn't like the person they take the. Gong this big Gong they go over to the Gong and they would like while you're still performing you're looking at them going going gone. They go. Maybe I am and then going. And then you'd hear a an an and you might. They might also just throw in just to be mean now. Well there's something similar that There was a show Several he gump. Oh Yeah of course. I'm I'm pretty sure they took from you guys do that. Sometimes you guys take your ideas. We take your idea sometimes too so in this case they have. We took your idea called. America exactly California. That was your best idea yet. Texas was that hours Generalissimo Francisco. Franco should not have hung those guys. You should let them rotten prison. At the Alamo. Nobody would have gave me shit but because he I'm they gave them an excuse to invade but anyway go on. Darling. What's this show? This is the Gong show version. Did they have a gong? No they had this guy. What is the name of the guy that Ho said? He used to the capitated people back in God thing on their hats executioner okay so they had an execute take so if you had an executioner. I mean that seems like a lot. Well if you're not a good bit of win something good before you're gonNA get executed. You lose get more than like five hundred bucks. If you'RE GONNA get your head cut off the executioner do he would have come up with. An executioner was like death was he. Like mortis was. He wasn't no actually no no no. I'm getting the big the big trumpet trumpet. Oh God I don't like your brain. Sex wasn't executioner but I don't remember he would come with that thing and dance. I or if trump at the beginning I don't remember I was a kid but he would be also like around you and then he would try to distract you when you were singing. And then he didn't think that you had a good voice he would. He would play the trumpet through through through it. Did it did it? And I'm telling you it was hysterical people. Which is there like one line in there sung. It would be like a starting their son and he was like. Oh God that was the fun the misery and people would yell like go. Really Fun Dad. Mom of that show. We would all watch it. That was the chauffeur Saturdays. Oh at night or during the day I think it was during the day but again team that we can watch their kids. Well I mean now. They have America's got talent. I know but they changed it. It's really shows used to be a lot more fun though when when like American idol American idol mirror. It was a lot more phone with people who are allowed to be mean. Make Fun of the people like the scare really thinks he can sing and he can't really say Had the time of my life and older you and then the judges go. That's amazing. Do you know any other songs. And HE GOES NO SING. That one again. I had time of my La and then it was hilarious right. Yes I think it was Rosie O'Donnell who complained and said you're just making fun of Mentally Handicapped people and she was right but there was no more fun after that and now everyone had to be like cheering for them. Like oh God I gotTa Cheer for you like Oh no no but they don't really do that as much like no no my mom. She's sick she's got to infection and it went to her brain and her I fell out And like okay this is for my mother's eyeball and everyone goes on. Yeah good for your mother's eyeball if she wins the pop it back in there or what he did. But that's all that this but you're talking about the executioner. I remember like some one of my favorite scenes in every scene blazing Saddles Mel Brooks movie. So funny but he's about to hang this guy. He's the executioner and he says and and Harvey Korman the mayor. Who is actually supposed to be gene wilder is supposed to be the mayor but gene wilder really wanted to play the Drunken Gun gunslinger which is a better role. It's a Harvey Korman and it's an amazing movie. I want to watch it but anyway so Harvest is I've got could you get can you? Can you get another killing? Can you get another hanging and the executions both hired harm completely packed? Har- possibly get somebody kill another person to next Tuesday at the earliest. So the minute shows like that kind of stuff anyway. I don't know I brought that up. Okay so going back. To Quarantine Quarantine Yeah. Expert is ending them Ex. My expertise yet is to get the sex strike. I think that would work. I think enough people say I know what I'd rather risk rather risk death than not outside. Most married couples already leaving to a sex strike. I agree with that. Okay so Our daughter Yes what we have a daughter and she had to let me remind you too. Okay when did this happen well a couple of years ago? Okay well our oldest daughter. Yes we can't go to the dentist and she's had like we've she had like a loose tooth for a long time. Yes she even named. Yes over Toys Lucy. Liu and she just refused to eat out of that side of her mouth and for how long. How long has it been like six months so six months? And then she got another coming in. It's like doesn't have the room because that one's way Yup come out. Yes so what exactly happened the other night were you and I decided this is coming up. I decided that it had to come. Then I just I was just stuck with doing the job. Yeah I actually did it. Well Yeah I usually. If you haven't noticed the pattern that you usually get an idea and then somebody has to execute the idea and then I'm the execute execute her executor executioner executioner. Okay of the idea so if I get hungry and I see something then next thing you do is sit down to the couch and then I'm in the kitchen cooking. Something great person. Thank you for that. Yeah I was wondering who was bringing me food all this time. I'm glad I found out who so anyway so I just said hey listen this has got to come out. Yes and you like kind of little surprise that you were like yeah. It's coming out now no it. It had to yeah being a longtime. The problem is like the tooth was also stuck between the other the other two. Yeah so it didn't really have a lot of room for her to push with her tongue. Yes it was literally for months and months and we needed to come out and do so what we did. Because we're good. Parents were responsible. Parents waited six months. No we watched a youtube video on how to take the because that's what a good. Yeah this where you're supposed to do. Good parenting is all about listening to remove it from your kids Matt. What did this other person who we can't? We can't sue if something goes wrong. What did they do so they? We found one video. Does the only one we watched this one. We don't need more information than one stranger one Asian stranger so she recommended she's Asian first of all. Look I'm agent? You GotTa know that like Asian people have a higher tolerance of pain so like you know. You don't have a high tolerance. Well no you're right. I don't know how many times you had hit your pinky till I don't even feel it anymore. I believe just going like I share the the hit complaining or anything anymore. You don't WanNa show you pain that okay so when we come back to a break we'll continue with the story about the tooth and and they'll tell you how we took it out. We took it out. Yeah that was a painful it was. It was kind a little scary but it cost me a night's sleep last night and I'll explain that when we come back in a minute on. See what happens please. If you've enjoyed the podcast please leave a review and subscribe. Why not subscribe? We'll get this beautiful wonderful talented funny Larry's Miami and I subscribe please leave a review in a good one enjoyed Anyway thanks for listening to stick around and say what happens and we are back and side people get a hold of you patrice. You can find me on Instagram at I empty and also antique talk. I'm going to start making Videos you first of all tell them what that about. I'd say You can watch it actually. You should watch it. It's it's about those kids trying to tell you something. It's so hard for them to say it mom. I'm Oh it's funny just socializing in my daughter's face. That sounds Nice okay. So so we're talking about the tooth really. Yes so I had said like this is coming out because I felt I'll Lusa was and I felt I'll lose it was Vermont's but I said for some reason then I said this has got to come out and said we're taking it out. So how do you want to do this? And we looked it up online and he said you can you can just Yank it. Yeah with the with And she said the easiest way was with threat. Thread better than dental floss. Yes because it's a slippery gets slippery with the saliva. What does both actually sort of the fingers? Yeah it's really what's so I went and I got pink which I think's a nice color to rip a tooth out of somebody's effing head and so I know we. We tried the pink and we tied it around there and when I did I watched. I watched you tie. It took credit for it later. You've got the string by the way you wouldn't have had a chance to tight around to if you wouldn't have had it and I walked thirty feet into another room and got you absolutely right. I apologize in front of everyone. Credit is due for getting the threat. Yeah and then yeah you can get it okay. All right she she how does she know where the snacks her figure it out right? That was smart smart. Okay so anyway. I got you the thread. You were nice enough to do something. Finally you tight around tooth. Yes and then pull it out. I pull up a little bit in right off. Useless yes you're saying. That information on Youtube is unreliable. Yes because this is a big deal. I'm GonNa say something nobody knows. Don't believe everything you watch and you do but I saw the tooth come out of her head though well because then I use flaws dental and it was actually. It wasn't like a little one. It was like a front tooth at one on the Internet is like well tough. Yeah you can have. You can have the some crackers. Just be less excited about initially love that we'd better get this over with and get out there before they eat the whole box of the Annie's Today's episode brought to you by any fish cheese crackers So anyway so it slipped right off. Yes which is frustrating. Yes because she didn't she wasn't excited about the whole ripped off she was. She was very scared and nervous and I was over nervous. I've never done this before. Pretty good though. Yeah of course yeah. I had to be older brother that just said let me just do this and I want to what. He's trying to come out owner at all and he rip it out of my head and I don't remember I don't remember screaming or if it was painful or not but I remember not liking. That whole idea. Was you know she wasn't happy about it? Made the mistake. What as many mistakes you have made. I don't even remember out of the million mistakes. What her that if she if she led me pull out the tooth she could sleep in our bed anytime and it started last night. I know that was a mistake. I slept in her bed last night but I I kept my word for one night so far. I'm GonNa tell her not but anyway so she was not digging like please. I'm tired I don't WanNa do this. And then and then you said let's. Let's not listen to the Youtube video and I'm going to go get some dental floss. Dental floss other type of dental floss. Which is what I recommend which was don used. A thin one. Luckily rob is addicted to buy Dental floss we have many different types. And there's one specific type that is very thick and it's called everytime you raw thing you feel like you're and that's the one that I thought. Wait a minute we have one. That actually can work. Yeah so I put it around the suit. She passed out and that she woke up. We both passed out then. You tried it around because I ripped because like you tied tied at the threat again and I and I when she wasn't looking I tried to pull it slip. Read off of course but then you got in there got in there and you pulled out well no I pull hearth because it was really in there that too and I saw blood coming out of her mouth almost almost president. I surely going remember. No no no. I couldn't and she told me you made it Super Louis. So it was not Lucy Liu anymore. It was Super Lucia Euros. Ready to come out very brave. She she said I know what to do now so she got up she said let me do it with her to get out and I just said who is this. Who is this child? Who ripped her own tooth out of her own head. And I've been telling to that and I said if you ever have problems in life just go. What are you talking about? Don't mess with me. I ripped my own two thousand my head. I took my own to that. What did you do so that was a tough one? One of the toughest things that I've done in my to him. We did it like one thirty in the morning. Yes it was too late. Yeah it was late. We let them stay up. You know why because. We're a quarantine. What the hell else are we going to do? Of course we let the kids they. We've got to get through the emergency. Food is getting low though. Yeah I will say I did buy a ton of toilet paper in the beginning just like everybody else was and the woman at Albertson's recognize me. She said Yeah you can buy more than one she did. Yes I bought like four big packs and I gotta say there's none left hand yet but then people started make a run early people knew like hey this is going to be next to really hard like there are people that are potato chips. We're going to need this toilet paper There are people. That are really hoarding. They have like hundreds of yeah. We need to find that people. We have enough for another for for three weeks. We've got enough according to like what? What with calculations according to the What I see so far a happening. Zambrano stocking up each bathroom. You know what we haven't had for a month and maybe we can use the extra toilet paper. No we're saving that paper. Okay good good so anyway. What's going to happen more Discontinues by the way? What was your favorite meal? So far to the quarantine quarantine meal like emergency food or whatever like we've cooks for 'cause I gotta say quarantine that's a tough thing to make. That was a good one. Your that came up pretty good. Yeah I think I made a really good lemon Brad. Yes came really good. Your cooking is amazing. Is some good cookies to address your desserts. Cookies were monster. I think my favorite thing cooks I guess would be. I don't know guess. Guess one the Barbecue. You did I like to barbecue. We did finally neighbors Barbecue filling. Our our house was smoke and I said Revenge where I can do the same thing. No Kim a pretty good but then the wind blew the other way. Yes but no my favorite meal that you cooked you cooked. I guess free call compatible. Free should do that one again. Yeah beans and I made that one the first week of Warrenton forgo what? I don't know the bone broth. Oh Yeah you're five bowls of over two days. I was beautiful first of all. You know. That's a really good thing and it just is really good for you. I'm not a big meat eater anymore but like my goodness when you cook that one. It's really good. That was really good. Beef stew often bones bones. Where'd you get those buffalo bones? I dig in the backyard found. What is this buffalo combined? The neighborhood excuse me of your bones grocery store but had this technique what I think it worked really well for us like so far. Which is we're freezing stuff. I'm freezing stuff. Cook like a large amount of beans Then we eat whatever we're GONNA eat and then phrase the rest that's good that way then. I'll take him out eventually and I make something else. This is what I've been doing with the with the bones. We have those wounds for for a couple of weeks and then same thing that once held on make breath that was I mean. I really enjoyed the US as a sub order. But what do you cook it with people? Know what the flavor is because estimates tastes? Amazing What you can you can just put like make your regular beef stew. Whatever you make it I make it with a piece of Ikea like half of an onion and I put it in there. I probably like three garlic's yeah the whole Is the whole guarded? The garlic clove. Yeah Yeah and I add salt black pepper. I liked to have Cilantro to just give the flavor of the support. Yes and then what else and in that same pepper garlic salt only got. No you already put the garlic's that so that's it. That's it because so much flavor though I know he's just it's it's the bone chilling interesting that the volume and you take the marrow. Kitazawa keep those are of that. Yeah I thirteen and the kids love it. You love it. I'm smarter. Who Clock your arteries? He didn't ones in a while. Yeah I did feel like my Hands where'd good because sometimes you have some dry handsome those amazing it's just it's just fix it overnight. Okay so what? What are we going to do for the rest of this thing for the rest of this to I think we're just gonNA keep surviving it and eating an emergency food that we We should also that I made those Turkey meatballs yes those give it that. Arabia sauce. How do you tell people how to make an Arabia? These notes stewed tomatoes. And it's Basil Sweet Basil and and you can get like just some chill Chili flakes was good enough. Any that you know hot chili flakes and it's pretty easy and just do it and then and then you put the some input you put it right on the Spaghetti. Its Good Arabia. ha that. Add some basil top beautiful with sheep cheese at the top PU. Forget about it and the Turkey meatballs. Incredible so good. So we'll do this again and And just it's everybody out there hanging there we're going gets roots together and I just want to say to the Chinese people started this whole virus. see what happened. See what happens in your lab and your gene your lab over there when you don't take precautions. Abe at a lot of people that's nice. A lot of people have being attacked like Chinese people. It was their fault not not every Chinese person fall. It's definitely one guy. One Guy in China probably talking about him now. But I'm not blaming all chinese-speaking Josh people say like whoever is blaming Chinese people. Don't blame them be nice. You assholes. Isn't that first of all? It's not their fault. Not Their fault. Find the real guy Making me like bad soup or something. Yeah yes make him go to the fish market and Wuhan but no racists. No don't don't blame all Chinese people for something that is bankrupting our entire economy. Just blame the one Chinese guy who did it. Yes and then blamed. Chinese officials were lied at that. There's also I don't know it could easily become the United States also helping that You know funding that Wuhan Place according to the according to the reports You know so this is what I would say just for some sunshine too because Florida. Florida doesn't as cal. I mean New York has the worst hit really hard. Florida has eight hundred and fifty deaths less than a thousand and they have a lot more sunshine there so get out in the sun thing. Yeah get out. In the sun in exercise take your vitamins vitamin C. Take magnesium and ASEEL SISTINE and And be well and and and and be good and be blamer. Us Do your thing do your surviving and get out get stronger. Yes so the next time. See what happened before we don't want to happen again. All right so how did he wait? Let's get out of this one. Let's let's get. How do we get Like you thought he was a good idea to bring a parakeet the house. Yes I thought it would be good for the kids to have another animal for you to take care of. Yes thank you. How's that going so far? I think that poor animal is terrified. I know a little tiny three year old hands reaching gauge huma time. But these cute he'll get used to. It Peres very cute very because I had one named cliff They say they say this supposed to be your porn. Name is your first pet and the name. The street the lived on we lived on Nelson Avenue. So my guess my porn name would be cliff Nelson. It's a good name. It's a solid like cliff Nelson. Am I have to use that? For something. You said cliff Nelson Cliff Nelson has said that it would be like a porn porn star name. You just said it would be a good foreign funding no that. That's supposedly that before Noah by everyone would be a good. Everyone in America knows that you're supposed to take your first pet's name. Everyone Americanism everyone in America. Yeah you where you weren't born from trying to educate you now. This is an expert to everyone born in America in the seventy s or what era because I grew up in the in the in the seventies and eighties. Okay there you go lanes at all battling maybe early nineties would know that this was a thing. I don't think he early nineties. You're lying already right. Maybe late late eighties. It stopped but listen. So what was your pet? And what was the street that you lived in well? I don't remember the first the very first pat accepting. We had a dog before we had the other. But Tracy Tracy Tracy would name Tracy and we'll do a bit Tracy Tracy Hoochie. Ton sounds exotic right. Like you don't know where she's released from Tracy's she you know she could be hotan like it could be. She could be like the one that started the whole coronavirus which fan like Spanish last one. Who'd you tell from? Tau Like Brazilian. Which now has so many options. You're right 'cause goodman. Yeah my dog. Tracy lead a long life. She she lived eighteen years. How did you live that long? She was fed. Chicken Soup and tortillas every day of millions and that can navigate for a long life. She was a big dog. She was like a big dogs. Don't live eighteen What is the name of this police? Dogs like that size. Ymer egner German shepherd German shepherd. Never there's never been a German shepherd eighteen years don't feed them chicken soup and thirty s and that was must have been some some great in there. It was amazing. It was so good that at the end of her life gave her a massive tumor in her chest. Line now but She eighteen years up for big dog. That's usually like a little tiny dog like you fit in your purse. You know I know this was a big dog. She was a great dog Eighteen years as a big does all right. We'll are we going to get another dog for the kids because they've been talking about I don't want to I don't want to either. We're GONNA have to though because you make this promise you over. Promised thing. Yeah I promise that she ripped her own tooth out of her head and the sleep in the bed last night. She was made she didn't but I didn't think you'd actually take your thugs. I thought you know she just hasn't done it. She did it. That's how much she doesn't she wants. She doesn't want me to get a good night's sleep that's how much she hates my sleep. Yes so she slept and I slept in her bed last night which is not comfortable for a man. Yeah Yeah it's not very comfortable. It's not cut. Our weather's not comfortable either. Oh yeah it is complaining. I Don that crazy organic mattress inorganic mattress. We had put together by Green. The've I mean come on? Now there's a lot of toxins in in mattresses and stuff like that and we don't have those. A lot of. We had a very nice comfortable the most toxic toxic comfortable mattress. That's what love that mattress comfortable toxins. But we don't have it in this uncomfortable wonder was so happy back then with that with those toxins. Because I was getting Miami. You can buy the new bed okay. I'll do it all right all right. Okay all right by the new mattress delivered by Amazon Prime. Three days of all the crap you've been ordering from Amazon. What was it like the stuff that you realize you didn't need. What's your favorite thing? You've ordered so far from Amazon during this quarantine. 'cause there thank God there's still ordering on essential crap because that's all this stuff you get things for the kids well. Yeah I bought some of the non non essentials. I bought the Soap dispenser or yeah. We knew that those. That's like the best thing you've ever ordered from Amazon. I ordered the bath for the Liberte using it as a toilet. The birds using the Byrd bath isn't toilet. The white himself washes up. Yes okay I got the garbage Max. I got the floor cleaner things. I'm still getting good. I give you credit. I take back all the horrible things I've seen about your okay. Good Okay Theresa Future Tom. Yes Clip Nelson Cliff Nelson here and we'll come back and going to thank our listeners and our watchers on Youtube and Hang in there. We're going to have some fun things to announce pretty soon about the TV show and about some other stuff which will be fun. But let's let it happen first and then we'll We'll let you know about by the way That whole list strata. We talked about earlier. The Greek story The great animator who passed away last month. Richard Williams was lucky to meet one time. He's an animator did Roger Rabbit. He did the Pink Panther. Incredible animated monks many things that he did. He was working for many many many many many many many years and it was his dream to finish a animated story about this Astrada. Wow and I would love to find out if he ever got close finishing I never saw. So that's it then that's for us. See what happens so join us next time. Find out then see what happens and you take care of yourselves be safe and hopefully this'll disappointing be over before you all take care.

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305: Star Wars: The Mandalorian Holiday Spectacular, With Special Guests Guy English and John Siracusa

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305: Star Wars: The Mandalorian Holiday Spectacular, With Special Guests Guy English and John Siracusa

"Says he joined you. Avatar is not an apple guy you can you can pick which fixture you want to like vendor to people and the picture. You've chosen as picture of you in europe fifteen. I mean my nice. I love you too man. It's i i really miss you. It's been a tough year. Work all this apple stuff. That's on apple. It's not an apples on you. It's going to be a law. Is going to be a long three hours. Is what i'm sixty expe- dithering usually start on time. Mr. let's get on skype and five. Exactly dithering is this of what either of you are capable of and and it is remarkable. Show dithering starts within a differing of when it's supposed to start in gray. You're you're only ever off by one hundred percent right. So so we're we're done recording within two dillard's it works home on something bizarre. Here this is. Because i have not been podcasting. Over the break i got this old catalina system and somehow i got an alert like a notification at said automatic updates been turned on which i didn't think could happen. I mean if you turn them on turn. I didn't turn them on collector check box. Yeah i know. But now they're all turned on and software update now that i don't believe honestly if that is a policy that apple has adopted. I know you've got a scoop because that's not right download stall i don't want any of this come on all right all right. I'm recording guys recording your end. Yeah this'll be tight. Let's let's hey you know what just get just to get off the top a happy christmas. Hope you guys doing well. Happy christmas in canada to say out loud. I think it's only in quebec though in what you know what my back. Merry christmas all. Yeah good night. Well and by the time we're done recording it'll be your birthday. Sure happy new year. Happy birthday thought we were saving that. Just say you know. John and i had never mind. What are we save in a four. What was saving it. For a surprise. I get to feel like the guy that actually knew it and you got. Dvd surprised by hard date to remember now. we'll you know what i techs john earlier. This should go on the show. I hope this doesn't show i. I texted john early and mike. Mike computer tells me that it's john's birthday today or tomorrow. And i'm not sure. Believe it because it could just be a date that gut rounded off to lay. There would be extra points now if you know. The maquis pock Looking at nine hundred seventy s. Nope nope january. I i note nine hundred four. I think that's right. I think it's right. The nineteen four part sounds right january. I am not sure about. I'm pretty sure it's january january. I like honestly. I'm going to bet harder on january first in nineteen zero four. You ain't got it january first four. Yeah and the reason. I think i believe the backstory. I can't believe i know this and it's not you. I believe the reason they started at nine thousand nine hundred four instead of one thousand nine hundred was which would be a lot easier because then you could. You could easily convert the remember back when we used to do. Dates years is two digit numbers. Just just add nineteen hundred but they avoided nineteen hundred because of the weird leap year rules around centuries and i know two thousand was like the super weird one. We're usually if it's a century it doesn't count as a leap year because there's like you only need nineteen non leap years out of a century to keep the earth. I you know what i mean. It's a weird thing. Where like nineteen hundred. You don't you. Don't keep the earth anything you keep us. Keep us aligned with the way that the earth is going but yeah definitely that makes us so. I think it's a little bit of a flipping. The bird at convention. Yeah so you don't run unix runs out of years right right and then this ran out one. Two thousand seven ish that i forget but the basic idea was that by starting to eat balk at nineteen o four. They can have fewer leap year rules in the system and it wouldn't break until twenty one hundred at like they were ready for the year. Two thousand but We're not ready for the year. Nineteen anyway this is a star wars holiday spectacular the most radic annual semi annual. What's the word for a by it. Biannual biannual is what every other year Or twice a year is isn't like biweekly. Like one of those things by our weekly is the one that means both. Yeah let's just go with a biannual. Here's the thing here's the thing we didn't talk about was vices skywalker. Getting to update. Skipped it in other operatives appropriate. I think i think so too. Let me let me get through the introduction. Here's waco's good luck So it's not every year but it's most years but there is no set schedule so it's like a annual. It's a radically annual during the break between christmas and new years there's there's a holiday star wars spectacular of this podcast and we talk about Star worse and we've we did it for The rise of skywalker. No that's the only one we didn't do. We did it for The last year one thousand nine hundred four of the the second most recent stores. I don't remember which would we did for the last jedi. I i was the one i got. Nineteen o four after tough. But it's pretty. It's pretty great. This brings me to a good point. I think it's me getting older. But one of the point to talk about is that i remember the obscure names of spaceships and characters characters. Who had no lines or no lines in english from the original trilogy and there are major characters in in the mandalorian and the new star wars movies whose names i. I'll never remember the. They're right in front of me. And i look away from the piece of paper and i'll forget them so i think the nineteen four qualifies is that that got seared into my young brain which had great memory and the new stuff via the mac epoch action figure from canada. Which really had to you had to compare her. Name's right because you know you had to make your christmas list. This see now. This is where this is where like. There's that massive overlap between the three of us you know. There's a lot of things we all love. and then we're all different in our own ways. But i feel like one way that that all three of us would agree. Is that when you were asking for star wars toys you've made a. I made a very precise list that was unambiguous and could not possibly have generated any any mistakes or errors in terms of like should should the x. wing toy be the full sized toy that you could put the action figure in or these smaller die cast model well. I didn't want to have any ambiguity. I needed the one you could put the action figures end. And so i put like i forget how i clarified it. It's circling the catalog exactly attachments. Right admit something that. I have never admitted even to my mother anybody if ever loved and since it's just the three of us here i kind of want to get it off a chest when i was very young I guess eight seven eight I was living apartment. That would just moved in after we'd left england and I wanted an at one of the net department. No there's no shame in that. But but johnny me. The shame is coming i. I went looking for christmas presents in my mother's closet. I found one and it was. I forget what was it. It might as well have been a jigsaw puzzle of net when i wanted the actual at at and i dressed it to her after having discovered it without wanting to let her know that actually gone found the president that i had hoped for eight months. Just so you know what i want. I want an actual ad. You know not not. Let's say a jigsaw puzzle fanatic. Less fun i went to that at. And i was not as keenly james bond ish as i would have liked to have been at the age of seven allen. You're not suave about it. In other words there's no no not at all and i still remember that. Look on her face. And i If you listen to this sorry. I did you poorly. I really did. I really did want that. You came through. She really did come through. Like i got for christmas. But your your reward for this terrible act as you get the excellent. I never got the ad. I had to go over to friend's house and play with his. I did not get the. I can't tell you i. This was not this was not a great contribution to me as a human being but it worked out in that year in a very small way i was i was never a presence nuclear I did. I think it peaked around the age ten and i did find. I believe from my birthday. I found the b. m. d. b. m. Bmx bike that. I was getting. And i did go looking for it because i was so curious and i realized there is no way they could really. There's only one place they hide. It is sort of a like a sub closet at the back of the basement and there was and it was beautiful But the other one. I found accidentally and i don't. It was so jarring shocking to me that i don't quite remember if it was a birthday or christmas but i suspect it was a christmas. Is i got the millennium falcon. You know the big kenner pop the top off through some characters in there and it was the greatest president ever got and i kinda thought it was a stretch goal to ask for it. Because i don't know what it costs but it seemed like insanely expensive. It was like. I don't know sixty bucks and it was like what and it was huge. It's just getting that. But i got it and it was the greatest thing ever thanks. Mom thinks that. Yeah i do feel like real jerk. What was that. What was the best star wars toy. You had grown up. Jim just mentioned that. Bmx thing and i was a presence new purpose. They hid my next bike for me that my mind. Nineteen eighty-four mongoose. Californian was the best christmas present by ever received but on the star wars category specifically. I didn't get most of the things i wanted. I did have the the type of the wings popped off and the x. wing that the character goes in. I also had the death star with the comp. Trash compactor with with this Square foam cubes. But i think my best one. These were weird and a lot of people had these. I don't know if you remember the twelve inch figures. Yes yes i did. They were fantastic. And i had a both in. And that was boba. Fett darth vader luke and land. The both that was obviously my favorite. When did it was it. Did have some cloth to or was saying like it was. It was before the age to hyper realistic toys. And look really like the thing on the screen because obviously the kenner toys were great and everything but the elbows and knees that moved and they were pretty sketchy looking in you know in terms of fidelity and both that was cool and i had him not with the shooting missile but i had the regular one but the twelve inch boba fett might as it was like an hd right cloth cape plastic head. Look like the one in. The movie didn't have articulate joints either. But they were just so much bigger and more realistic looking very cool. Did you guys ever watch your the toys that made me. It's a netflix documentary. It covers a lot of yes. Roy and they talk about i joe at that point and i think that these twelve inch fed is in line of those old precursor. Judge figures. That were you know. Twelve inches. Tall very articulate and very much the doll category right i. I don't like to make that distinction right. So here's the thing and i. I don't think you believe that is. Where's the distinction between action figures dolls. Whatever you playing with dolls right. This was very much An action figure a ghost a grossly mended action figure as opposed to the sort of what they like the gi joe characters six inches tall like these things were big and manipulative and and and a felt more like a an entity. New life rather than something that you could make a recreation of the olive oil with you. Know what i mean like. They were thinks they were things that you interacted with. Rather than being played things that you could place in a battlefield. I to bring it up i you said that and it brings to mind that whoever whichever and you know it was some don draper madman type guy who came up with action figure and i get an and it is funny. We're we're of generation. We're now in twenty twenty. We can all say well you know if if if if young son wants to play with dolls or your your. Your young daughter wants to play with Army star wars characters lightsabres gun. Good laugh every you know. Everybody just has fun. You don't need to worry about words like that. It's all silly but you know one thousand nine hundred. Seventy eight seventy nine it mattered. We learned that from william adul- freebie you and me new. We knew what was right. I carried a baby doll. Her name was kalki and that was because we had a neighbor who was A few years older than me. Her name was kelly. And i guess i had like a as a young three year old. I had a crush on her not a crush crush but you know like like looked up to her because she was the. Are you telling me that as a three year old. You didn't have a crush crush now. You know what i mean. No but i. But i liked my kalki dole. More than i liked kelly. The neighborhood once. I had the baby doll. I mean and i couldn't pronounce kelly so i i the baby was kalki and she was a little You'll know the type of it had a hard head and hard hands like articulated plastic quickly squish pillow body. And i carried kalki with me everywhere. I went by the arm and so the arm. Eventually my mom had to so the arm back on and then at some point it wasn't working and my mom. I believe went out and bought me a replacement and fall for it and you know but my dad was very my dad's a good man and he's still you know and he's all on board with. My dad was not a fan of at the time of taking me. Like let's say to the bank with him. And i would total long my kalki. He needed to rest more freely. You and me exactly. It'd be cool with it now. But i think that's true of all of us right. We are in a different place now. There we were winward twenty years ago for sure. Oh yeah but years ago was the year two thousand dude. I know i know. And here's the thing. His way pick. That is that. I knew both of you. Twenty years ago and tests uncomfortable. It's true. I just looked up the twelve inch boba fett by the way if i had kept the box. Apparently i could sell for three grand on ebay today. Wow so so. Here's the thing about that so this bothered me a lot though and one toy. What's a massive kenner toy. That i did not want because it i could just tell before. I even saw it at a friend's house. I was like i don't want it is i did not want to death star because the death star was clearly a death star imply inspired place where it was sort of like a bunch of interior sets from the death star as opposed to a thing that looked like the death star that you could take a panel off and put people in the district place that a semi sphere basically no. It wasn't even a sphere. It was just. It was just as i recall. It was just like an apartment building. It was just a rectangle. it didn't even have any. And my recollection was that it was just like a cut away of a floor that bent and kind of an angle. It wasn't even. There was no hint that it was in a giant grace. Fear that i mean. They don't do that to say. Look at the local. Desktop has no relation to the actual. Desktop is darn big thing. I'm familiar with interacting with with semi sphere and it had a trash compactor. Oh i've got all made out of covered. It was not great was bad and it supports everything you're saying but It wishes specific thing. It was here. I just told him i message this is. This is what i had trash. Compact her with with. What do you call it. The name of the monster and their i forget the name of david. Whatever trash back monster. I get it in a second hang on. It's a terrible. It was a terrible toy though it just it was just you could fake it. You didn't need it. I didn't like it at all. Oh man this is what you had. Okay that's yeah. That's not what this is what i have this. This was my biggest star wars. Honestly i would have rather had either the ad or the lame. Fuck the millennium falcon was the bomb and it even had a cool thing where the one landing gear was meant to be used as a pistol grip. You could keep it down and then you can fly around your house. What with the millennium falcon with this pistol grip down very fun very cool but it. It bothered me when when the toys we know. There's like an uncanny valley where it's like. Okay so you know like the original. Han solo like did not look like harrison ford at all because all of those characters they did they just had like a the most melty generic face. Yeah like somebody like some kid. Who's actually pretty talented carved a candle. And they they had is that we're just sorta like the is that like like you just draws an idiot you know like two dots upside down print apprenticeship eyebrows and the paint didn't land on the features even gloves the paint is moral s on the boot and then kind of phase right and looking at this twelve hundred vader again. I realized that. Look at these boba. Fett had articulated joints vader. Didn't they were hollow. Plastic like vader's arms and legs like the whole. The whole body of these baiter anyway was like hollow plastic but they didn't have elbows but both of it did apparently better so there was the twelve inches. Ppo and evader. I believe from seventy seven. Because i believe i saw them before at offense as c. Four empire strikes back came out. And i think did once empire came out. It was like well. We're gonna make much money so let's make these better. I have never seen a twelve inch boba. Fett i'd i did not know the existed. I knew they existed. Before empire came out because i was trying to collect enough stickers in order to get one with a rocket pack and i did not there were so many things that bothered me. It bothered me that the the lightsaber characters had instead of a lightsaber. That went into the worst thing. Little noodle that comes out and it was two different in the worst part about us like the lightsaber doesn't have one section it's thicker and then the next section. It's thinner uniform. Doesn't make why you do that. The only good thing about it was. my mother. Couldn't take it away because you take away the guns from all my fingers like because of sort of a a loose no playing with guns policy or or a very tight. No playing with guns policy. Very tight gotcha. Well usually no sorry to catch on this but do resent that or do you think that was good. I resent really gives. You wanna play with guns. Kinda guy i will. I didn't i wasn't big on it with my kids either. But come on star wars. it's fantasy and it was make my own guns out of wood anyway. So it's like you're not stopping anything. That is so and and i know that like no guns paul. And i know there's guaranteed. There's way too. Many people listening to this podcast. I know that there are literally almost certainly thousands of people who are going to listen to this show who who are currently raising kids with a no guns policy and there are thousands who were rolling their eyes. Saying that's ridiculous illy and i'm just saying whatever however you wanna raise. Your kids is all fine. But all i know is having raised a son in the last seventeen years with numerous the. It's like it was a thing we would check right. Friends are coming over. What's the gun policy. It just you know because you don't want any trouble. The kids raised in the no gun. Family will pick up anything. And everything i mean like you know like you find like a stick on the ground. That's vaguely l-shaped and it becomes a gun okay sure i did that. I'm talking to the kids. That jonas grew up with in no gun families would pick up like a gum wrapper like a piece of paper and and the kids would be playing something entirely else and then they would just folded into a gun. They were nuts for making guns out of pieces of cellophane like not sticks. Leaves just pick up a leaf and it would become a gun. And it's like i don't i i. I don't want to send the kid back to his house. I presume that his parents knew that he was doing this. But it's like. I don't want him to think that they picked it up. You know jonas. His dad taught me how to make a gun out of a piece of gum images. Bondo nature nurture thing going on there. But like i mean i didn't buy my kids guns ever but when my kids got star wars figures i didn't take the tiny away from the star wars figures. I feel like that's the right bounce. I never wanted my kids to have guns especially realistic goes. I never bought them for them. But i did. But i'm star wars action figures slash dolls. And if they came with guns they came with guns and it was. I think that's the right balance because if you do a hard ban where it's like we got you a toy. But now we're moving into the fun parts of the toy that makes the kid making gun gum wrapper. Maybe we we jonas. All the guns really. The only thing that kid has ever screwed met with was really really really sour. Treats like i. Nobody has made me wanna vomit so much as your son trying to feed me like a sour treat in ireland. That was that was worst. Those irish sour candies. Are this hour. Sterno they're like something from harry potter their magically imbued with that. Yeah no we bought jonas all the star wars guns and in his generation they were all like bright orange or green are in computers now anyway so yeah i play destiny with john we know where the real guns and he's he's he's a gentle soul and i was never a rough hauser. Never it had no bearing you know. But anyway i i i would recommend not worrying about it but whatever you wanna do it always anyway long long story short it bothered me that their light sabers like sticks that came out of their arms. I was that was an attempt at tapering. And all i could do. Is you have the manufacturer that perception with elected they could do and they were just like they should have worried more about like they were they. Were like a foot and a half long in scale right. There were like the link of their four. Because that's where they slip into. So how could you make the forum. 'cause they slide into the forums all also the luke character had a yellow lightsaber type of thing. Where the twenty four cares what color it is in. The movie turns out everybody cares. Meanwhile i'm i'm five years old and i'm like have you people ever even seen this movie. I'm so mad about it. I'm still hitting realized that this this is like the movie that literally created the first generation of people who would care very deeply about the come right back in fact too deeply. And i think we're gonna touch on that if we ever talked about what we're going to talk about. But but there were other aspects there were other aspects that the this is what bothered me about it was that they clearly paid attention to other details. So han solo came with the han solo. Dl forty four blaster. Now see now. How do i know that year was forty. Four i call is forty. Four i again. I barely remember my own birthday anymore. But somehow. dl forty four. I remember and the stormtroopers came with storm trooper. Little half rifles. Whatever you wanna call them. They got the guns right and could have easily just made like lego. You know the way that lego just sort of has like one generic pistol and or like light right like so all the star wars figures pam. Lego have generic. There's just a lightsaber peace. And nobody worries about whether it looks like arthur's lights up by the thousands you stick them in the boxes so any advice star wars characters with a blaster could have had the same pistol and you know but they got it right. So why in the world wouldn't you get the color of luke's lightsaber right. How can you not know. He has a blue light saber. It was the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen. I suspect they did. And one of us is gonna have to correct me on when pan. Tone actually get around. Because i just don't think they could. I don't think they could die that plastic that color because they yellow opie one will be one. Yeah oh one had a blue light saber. Just give him the park from. Why was yellow. Then 'cause i'm thinking jeddah thinking they were trying to glean thing but now i mean it matches this hair. I sent a picture of apparently they. They did nine hundred ninety five and two thousand nine and they did reproductions of the original kenner thing and they faithfully reproduced the yellow lightsaber with the stupid well. Anyway it's a long. It's in a radically annual schedule recovery. But we don't we don't cover everything we can't cover everything and we. We happen to skip the rise of skywalker. We don't have time. There's no way we're already. The introduction has taken half an hour. there's absolutely no. Which can we say that. Nine hundred seventy seven luke. Skywalker has a very flaccid looking. I mean it was. It was nineteen seventy seven. That's a long time ago. You gotta live it. Was that guy winter which you immortal words at garage stanza. He was in the pool for sure. John i don't want to cut you off because we really should move on like nine hundred. Seventy seven. luke skywalker has definitely you know what the opium the opium characters all kinds of wrong and that bothered me. I haven't seen this figure in a long time since i was a kid. That's the one. I grew up with. And that's just not a one e kind of in line but you didn't. He kind of looks like a kid. Like character. From like flash gordon or something. Yeah he's kind of like maroon. Seventies like polyester. Yeah it's it's sorta like with the ob one character. It's like they found out he was an old man and kids weren't really going to care and so somebody who'd never seen the movie. Just ask somebody jasim up. Yeah it was just like it was like second or third hand. What does this. Ob one character look like and then. They made this painting shoes. Different color doesn't his or just go straight down to cape but it's plastic. Yeah tell the kind of things plastic. That's why so john. I cut you off to make fun of flaccid luke so sorry mark hamill we. We are here to talk today about the e walk adventure. The one thousand nine hundred for tv movie. That i've forgotten even exist now I wanna talk about the mandalorian. Because i feel like we cover that in a reasonable length of time we can. We can kinda doral all right. We've got a few hours left in twenty twenty so let me take a break before we even get started and i will. I will thank our sponsor. It's our good friends at squarespace. Squarespace you guys know. Squarespace my god. It's it's all in one site where you go to make a website. 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Marco ever make you listen to the reads right there during the show or is always sounds to me like he. Pops them in after the fact. Oh never reveals secrets of our program with don't you don't you let people just listen to it but if you don't listen live you'll you what's happening. Yeah i love that googlers. Just saying you. Don't listen live. I stick i stick. I stick to cannon. Wow that's a good segue. There's multiple cannon versions now because you've got the same version. That's not very complicated. No that's that's as you know. John known as her podcasts. So don't worry about it. Secures a what is the canon version of atp. They're all cannon no only good that's that's done that's unlike you re canon episodes every single week we over the break at some point. In the last ten days We introduced jonas to the star wars holiday special. And this is what i wanted to ask you john with with this earth day of yours. What is it like to have a birthday. So close to life day never comp. I thankfully avoided everb- seeing the star wars holiday special despite knowing about a device by knowing that infamy i avoided for almost my entire life until did it on the incomparable a year or two ago and that was the first time i've ever seen it and it was terrible and then somehow i raised that from my memory and i got sucked back into doing a commentary track on. I've seen it two times both times in the form of podcast first time it really really bothered me the second time. I think it was mostly numb to it. But it's no good. I was really shocked kid. We're on this seem slack about that and when it came up the first time i'm like i don't want anything to do with it. I i texted you. John and you don't don't watch it. I took a bullet view and not like a year later. You like doing commentary was yours. Vaccine doses yeah. I think so. Jonas jonasson usually pretty keyed in on this. He's you know he's he's on youtube all the time and and you know you any you know. He's he knows the star wars and he honestly had he had sort of vaguely heard about it and wasn't even sure it was real had never seen an moment of it we dialed up You know somebody's copy of a copy of vhs tape best version available on youtube. Did you get the one with commercials in it. Yes i believe so. That's the only good part we got. I had some commercials. We started watching it and he couldn't believe it. And i remember i remember when it came out i was so excited i could not believe it. You know. be a chance for more star wars and it was gonna be free right on tv and then the moment started. I realized i knew exactly what was going on. This is horrible and it's it just seemed to me i the thing. That was the most confusing to me. Though and it gets to my problem with the articulation of some of the toys is i could have accepted more readily if they had also recast all of the parts and it was just there is just some other new young kid playing quote. Unquote luke skywalker. And there was a man in a gorilla suit playing quote to baca. But it would they were all they got the actors and to bach. Did look like chewbacca. And it was like there was the real r. two d. two and i couldn't understand how how this could how these people could play any part in something that was obviously a complete and utter fraud and i don't remember really watching it to completion and and but you know i it's scarred me it's scarred me in a way that because it seemed incomprehensible that there could be any affiliation with the actual star wars but there clearly was and yet. This was a complete horrible shot on videotape fraud. Joe weightless that What you did that. come out. Nine hundred eighty. No no i was before empire. Seventy nine seventy nine. I think seventy eight or seventy nine man do that math because i think I think this goes towards this thesis statement that semi earlier. John well okay. Nineteen hours are seventy eight. So what what'd star was made at that time right we'd had the one movie where basically occurs you'll guy takes a kid and forces to engage in something way beyond his pay grade and ultimately works out because magic. Wait it's it's it's a weird story right like so it's earth day that far off read like not we. Yes i agree. I definitely agree with you. I mean they made a seventy s variety. Show like we live in the seventies. You know what they were doing. And they just shove star wars into it and and they literally opened up the cbs rolodex and just contacted the c. b. re rotary of Who do we call wealth. Cbs always calls. be arthur. when when there's the maude yeah and if you would call if i was gonna throw a party bea arthur's coming right. That's and if it had been on. Abc instead of cbs. It would have been a completely different set of stars would have been like john. Ritter from companies would have been instead of be arthur and harvey korman and harvey korman the art. Carney thank you know it would have been a great show right and if it would have been if it would have been nbc. They have got bob. Hope instead of art carney you know and you know it. All of a sudden bob hope is in for thirty seconds. Bob hope bob hope doing yoda would have been good. No matter what on jefferson starship put him in there just the name it. It broke my heart. Anyway here's my thesis statement. My premise for the shy ran rabbi guy. I didn't have to run it by john. I 'cause i feel you'll you'll crockett immediately. But hey well. I just wanted to once you said joking joking. Just go i forget actually i. I didn't write it down. So tell me if. I basically basically voted down to me. Star wars used to be and the star wars. That fused my vision of what it means. Was this thing that was extremely rare extremely special. And they these blockbuster spectacular to our big budget movies with the greatest special effects of that blew away the second-place movies with special effects for this sort of thing. We're so far in second place i. It wasn't even worth talking about them and that they were like the olympics. They only came out every few years but even at least with the olympics. You knew there'd be one every four years and then when return of the jet. I was over. There was a question as to whether there would a serious serious question is whether they would ever be any star wars again and in fact there wasn't i sixteen years except for special editions and it was that special and you know and then when george. Lucas said we're gonna make a new trilogy. The one that was long rumored is going to be a prequel trilogy. that's why these movies were episodes. Four five and six and it was like this is so sp this is going to be so great this especial and now we've got We've got a news announcement that they're seven different star wars shows. They make movies the that they can't make movies fat. They can't make star wars movies fast enough and my thesis statement is that it's a good the old way when we grew up when they were extremely special extremely rare. But if you're gonna go in a different direction and start squeezing amount more into expanded. What do you call it like the marvel expanded universe and the star wars expanded universe. And you're going to just keep making stuff. It's better to do it like this. And that's why i i. I'm not that big a fan of the last trilogy of movies. I really this the seven eight nine and the longer i go from them the the less of a fan i am and i feel like doing these. Tv shows is a better way to do it under disney stewardship. That's my thesis statement. That the the the part that you described one star wars was rare and everything. That's true but i didn't super enjoy it a lot of a lot of tension. I could've done with more hours. Like our childhood to find these mining as defined by wishing that there was more stores we saw you know the new hope empire in the jet am all we did was talk on the playground about the nine movies and the lava pit for like the rest of our adolescents. And there wasn't any more movies and seemed like we were waiting forever and of course we have the prequels which were disappointed and then we had to wait again right and so i i have great affection for the force awakens because i felt like that was the payoff to a long painful journey with star. Wars where i felt like i wasn't getting more of what i wanted for very long time. And the force awakens. Was i think a very good star wars movie. That said yes you can. There will exist. new star. Wars thing that you will really like. And i thought last night was okay. Not as good as the other. One rather skywalker. We didn't talk about and kind of dropped the ball so i agree that the the second trilogy doesn't hold a candle to the verse obviously And but it's better than the prequels but whole about like rarity versus. You know having more stuff. I didn't really like the rarity. It's what we got. It made you know. Absence makes the heart grow fonder right all that and everything. That's true but i would have preferred a childhood where star wars ended up like the right and the other thing to remember about him. You speaking of that thing is like the. Mcu that's not the source material the comics or the source material. This is the mcu. The moral cinematic universe is derivative material based on properties developed. Comic books star is not like that. It wasn't developed as a comic book. I or whatever it like. It was born as a movie. It is a movie franchise. So i think it's a little bit different in that you don't have you know sixty years worth of dozens of characters from which to pull and you know. Let somebody else give their take on guardians of the galaxy. Whatever this that doesn't exist in star grand. There was the eu kind of spun out from there and now they can do more picking and choosing. But it's just so different that i'm not sure adopting one of the formulas of the existing especially things like cinematic universe is the right formula. And i guess. I'm agreeing with you. That like what are the marvel on tv. I don't know if there's an acronym for that but star wars on tv seems like a perfectly natural fit for me because now we do have some cannon to pull from and the television format allows you to get what i didn't have when i was a kid which is hey guess. What more star wars. And when it's a tv show the stakes are lower. You make a good tv show. You make a bad. Dv show whatever they're being other tv show. It's not a big deal whereas if you have you know one trilogy of movies every few decades the pressure is on and you end up with a trilogy. Like the prequels where he just kind of fizzles and we ended up not liking it. It's like well. I guess. I'll see you guys again another decade or two and that's that's not fun so there were three thoughts. They're a the thought that we didn't get emphas- when we were young and we always wanted more am ending up on the thought that the mcu is a place to start. The television is a place that we can flesh that out. And in the middle there is the notion that marvel succeeded. Because it had a lot of boomed play with this stuff and these characters in a what has become a safe space right like you can comics and spider man can turn into living spider and do all kinds of horrible weird insane stuff i think even a stinker movie you get authority to or something. It's not a big deal right because there's so many more and and in that way. It is the finite a expression of of stores that that sort of makes a difference I wanted more starts. When i was young and i'm not sure that giving people what they want is always the best notion of making the most creative thing and i i sort of fear that this notion that like you know when i was young. If they just kept pumping star wars had feel awesome. Would you would. It mean the same. I i said you know. It obviously looms large memory because there was so little of it and what we had was so good right like. I don't know about you but i remember having arguments billick yoga. Could iota beat the emperor right and my whole motion was like iota would never fight the emperor. It wouldn't happen. He's beyond he's just he doesn't fight he certainly doesn't let up a lightsaber and pinball all over the place like. That's just do that. But part of the reason that prequels are so painful as it was this the giant gap and the weight was put on them. And instead i was never into the eu but during that whole time the expanded universal was a thing people writing novels and like there was the whole world spinning out after return of the jet is just that wasn't a world that i participated in so stars did have its moment to like go in a million different directions like and the reason i say i want more star wars and i mostly mean on on you know the movie screen or on screen as opposed to books is because star wars as a universe as a world can support you know so many different stories like so clearly. It's not like we were going to burn it out in the same way. That superheroes is such an open ended thing that you guys support tons and tons of heroes. It didn't need to be waited so heavily with like this expectation of. Just there's one story we can tell like this. You know there were so many stories you could tell them the star wars universe. The expanding universe told a lot of them but we didn't get to see them in movies or on television. That's that's what i would like more of even if some of it was kind of thinking. Maybe we you walk. Get the hollywood special. We got that other uacc movie and it just wasn't enough. Yeah and even the books A few others. And i'm like this is just cut. It's not not. I read the first one and it was like and i did finish it and it was like man this this bad and i say i if you wanted more star wars the only places you were getting it right but do i want stores at the cost of being bad and it not books about who who is the you was kicked out of cannon and now it's being mined for properties to put back into canada. Yeah i know but the providence of where good ideas from is less interesting than like. Do i want to sit through this anyway. Getting philly the universe like the star trek universe like these are worlds that can support so many different stories. Like you've got a whole galaxy like this is a conversation that had with a matt johnson. Many rich in i forget who else was maybe belton. Never heard of them never heard him years ago when disney the rights to star wars grassroots. Making the point. They're like what star wars big world and my initial reaction was like you don't want stores exists to tell the story of luke skywalker in those. Three movies is got beginning in an end and we should leave it at that. I believe i completely agree that the universe is An exciting enticing premise. And there's a lot there but it exists to tell the stories and it can be a coherent whole without those stories holding it together. I would where do we feel given the way the mandalorian has well. Here's my comparison is to george. Lucas is good personal friend. francis ford coppola with the godfather movies. Right like and obviously i mean. Let's face it. I think we say this every guy bring it up every time we do one of these star wars spectaculars. These are kids movies. So let's you know and a lot of this grown men arguing about star wars stuff it can. Can you know often. You can papa bubble by just saying remember. These are kids and the reason we do this around christmas and they come out around. Christmas is a christmas present. To all of us like peop- the original trilogy was for everybody as well as wave would say of pixar movies for kids. But but that's part of what made the original star wars movie. So honestly i i don't know how else to say it other than a sort of religious experience for me and my friends growing up and that we we talked about it the way that like people have generations past with talk about like their actual religion but but the thing that made it so fantastic to me was that it was obviously made so seriously like the story. Wasn't serious the dialogue famously. As harrison ford said george lucas. George you can say this close old man but but the production value is shit. You can't say you can writing all right career. You can right this ship but you can't say it again. Third old man. All right that sounds it also will let that sounds better. So we'll let them but it was so much work went into it and it was so palpable right. The the famous opening shot right away. Just boom what seriously maybe arguably the best opening shot of any movie ever made and it just immediately emphasized this is going to look real. This looks like a massive of kilometers. Long starship chasing a little guy and you could. You could just tell by the architecture of the ships. even they didn't really cheat. Who was the good guy. Who's the bad guy. Great it just the the amount of design right. And maybe you know if there's anything. I've been obsessed with my entire life. It's designed like the amount of design that went into this movie for kids whereas almost all this stuff that was made for kids. When i grow up was clearly garbage just like this is terrible. Like even disney started making animated movies where they just cheap out on the frame rate and the style. And it's like you know like one hundred and one dalmatians and some of those movies of that era. They they weren't even well animated. You know it's like they. It was like ads just for kids. Why spend all the money to do it right. Star wars had this attitude that kids deserve the highest possible production values and special effects and articulation the models. And and just just developing this whole world. I appreciated that so much. The godfather sorta had that for gangster movies. Here's this whole world. That was brought it was it was so visceral people still talk about to this day. Like if in some alternate universe george. Lucas had just locked locked the box after nineteen eighty three and never been another star wars movie or tv show and he just still just had the rights. The way the coppola has to the godfather we would still be talking. We wouldn't be having the star wars holiday spectacular right now every year but we would still talk about those three star wars movies the way people talk about the godfather movies and it would still be there and that's sort of what i wanted like as a young kid i was. I certainly wasn't allowed. I wasn't allowed. And i had no interest in watching the godfather movies at that age but i treated the star wars movies that way and even as a ten year old sort of had feelings about the walks in return of the jedi that are sort of like people's comments on the godfather part three which is now and again similar. We can do a whole show on this similarity the way that coppola keeps going back to the godfather movies the way. Lucas couldn't keep his goddamn hands off the star wars movies. Here's diverged because like the you mentioned the gangster movies. I got organized crime movies and getting some realities before the godfather. The godfather put a stake in the ground. And said this is. This is how you do this. The universe like the universe of italian american organized crime was not a universe created by francis. Ford coppola was a real world thing right so if you know if you know just lock the box on the godfather trilogy. He can't contain the universe because crime is a thing. And here's what we got if you know. Because that's not his box to lock up. He's got those characters and that story but the setting news exist then you get goodfellas which is kind of like saying well star wars was locked up but the star wars universe is available for someone else to pick up the ball and say i can make a gangster movie i can make a star wars movie and they made goodfellas and goodfellas. It's amazing and i would not wanna live in a world without it and i feel like you not allowing other people to make things in the star. Wars universe would be like not allowing anyone to make any more gangster movies for the godfather part. I think that is jump. I do. I not sure i disagree with you but i'm not sure that i can totally get on that either. Yeah where do you put all the battle star galactica and the right and laos galactic stars university this because it was pushed out of showers universe right and i don't know if you've noticed but the mandalorian has much silence commented silence come. Oh come on. Those are dark forces. We'll get there. It's a world. We're only an hour. Okay july but there i i i agree and i disagree. I i kind of see it. We're star wars carved out this weird genre. That wasn't just space opera. Shoot 'em up with laser guns in spaceships and but it was a very specific version of it right like light sabers and they made a universe. Our universe is distinct from the buck. Rogers universe or universes even though the both looks like they're space spaceships because it's this weird meld of space opera. That is a lot like on the surface. And if you don't really pay attention is a lot like battle star galactica or any of the same. The same people made this it. Looks well wait. So wait specifically. The galactica thing i meant is the dirk troopers. Look like silence i. I don't know. I just wanted to delineate that for people who may think that i'm painting with a very in other. We're talking about the godfather and star wars. It occurs to me the thing we always talk about with star wars. You know what what defines the stories university was already used future right. Yeah but you know this. Rs first star or somebody came out in the seventies every everything on screen. The movies and seventies with dirty dirty new york city was the the godfather you taxi driver. Just the festive billions of right. It was futures movie with film grain and dirt from the seventies. no because it's it's not an affectation it d- honestly exactly. Yeah he came by. Honestly he's hanging out with a bunch of really nitty gritty. Don't people who did let it really nitty gritty stuff. But but he's also. The guy made american graffiti. It ends up being dirty seventy but with a but with plucky space hero. Blonde boy from tattooing. But there's the insight that's what we should be celebrating us. I well what. I take the future and do it the same way what i treat the future as human as as as human and humanely as a tweet the current. And what do i talk about the future. Nazis as an analogue clock. What what i do. The classic sci fi him which is talk about something as horrific and horrible and despicable and project. Them in light. That is Apropos for the time l. Maybe a little bit advanced in. I'm gonna catch them in laser beams and that is that is the value of. That's why thx. One through eight. Was nice draft and star wars worked. And i think it worked because it had it played on. The same notion dragged the future down to earth and it made sci-fi thing that felt feel like you could reach out and touch odroid. You could touch her duty to you. Can touch the certainly the millennium falcon a chewbacca. Was your pet dog. You could do this and yet. It was divorced from reality to help land The the narrative the points the the perspective that it wanted to convey now chirp nazi so bad. I hope everybody got that from star wars much. They did based on the internet. Apparently not no. But i mean that was that was that was the point right and i liked it admire it and i think that's why it is so it's still sticks with us so much like that that lived in universe lived in is a word that means that we can inhabit. I think basically i. I'm convinced i'd the more we talk about it. I'm convinced that there were only two right ways to handle this one would have been. Yeah that they're the good way in the wrong way that's gonna work out right man if anything if anything star wars has taught us there's light and bad and everything lucas to have made one trilogy star wars empire return to the jet. I i thought it was so awesome. It was so freaking great as a kid when they renumbered them and and and empire instead of being star wars to was episode five and it just hinted at this greater story but what if he'd never gone back i in some ways there is there's an ineffable awesomeness to the if to the fact that if the only three star wars pieces that ever existed where episodes four five and six and that was it. Or if you're going to start making more. I think the way that disney is handling it now is the way to do it. And to give people enough star wars to that if it totally just a truly bad movie comes out. Like solo i mean. Would you guys watch that. I mean i would not call solo a truly bad movie. We differ there very strongly. Okay well i thought it was horrible. I thought i thought. I mean come on who okay. I think it's a solo. Which one is better. So i i would rather watch the rise of skywalker again on my goodness you need to watch solo again. I think your memory is warped of. I remain a big fan of the last jedi. If anything i've gone more fond of it over the years. Well here's my problem with these things and to compare them with the marvel cinematic universe my least favorite marvel movies and i think that the whole marvel thing has been great these movies. You know even the ones that. I'm not the biggest the most. I still enjoy watching them all. I love the way they string together. The ones that i like. The least are the avenger movies. And especially the last few with the guy with imagine gain infinite words i with the big. And that's not it's because it's like they're trying to make this thing that even bigger than to our blockbuster movie right. They're making like this like what's even bigger than just regular old. Just captain america. Like the first captain america movie which was a swell movie and just just not my favorite. I like the ironman movies better. The iron man wants for my sweet spot. But you know the captain. America was never my favorite hero. Either you know. But they played them straight. They did a good job but they tell a story in. It's sort of a movie the way you think of a movie. Whereas the the avenger ones are and i know this gets tossed about a lot. Like the scorsese line about all of these movies about them. They're like theme park attractions or something. But in the vendor movies like the endgame ones they really are like two and a half hour non stop rollercoaster rides were it's just nonstop blur and so many you know even you could say wow two and a half hours is a long time for movie or a long time for podcast. But it's like they were trying to cram in what easily seemed like it could be like A season of twelve hour long episodes of a show into two hours right and like at a pace that makes it feel like a two and a half hour trailer for something even bigger where you get to fill in gaps and then inevitably everybody's there's forty different people punching each other all at the same time and that's it and that's just i. There's only so much of that. I can take and to me. The the rise of skywalker had a feel of that where it's just. They're just mashing things together. And all of a sudden they're here and all of a sudden there and all of a sudden the emperor's back and they are syracuse won simple story with a clear character and arkan series of events. That culminates in a satisfying way checkout solo. Now terrible okay. Caitlyn solo go. Let's let's go. We didn't convene to discuss at. Interestingly i in a way think you're right. It was fighting with the mcu in terms that you know the grandiose nece elected i think i think the original plan was very different from the mc but that's the planet they abandoned original plan of. We're going to have a trilogy with with standalone movies. In between. That's nothing like the mcu the we're going to have twelve movies and they're all going to be loosely connected and they're going to be all over the map and we're gonna have sequels to some of the movies within those twelve and those are connected mortality. That's totally different stars. Were the trilogy company. We do trilogy a trilogy. We did a crappy trilogy. We're gonna try do another good one and we'll have these stand-alones in between and i kinda lost their nerve so those incredible failure in the market scared the hell out of them and everyone just ran for the hills and now the new strategy is we could try doing. tv shows. Which i think the previous reggie could have worked like it would be like marvel giving up after two and saying we've got scrapped. There's no there's no way we're gonna make twelve movies that culminated in big vendors movie. That's just not going to happen. Give up on it right. So i think disney lost its nerve but fine whatever they scrapped that plan and they're under a new plan which is tv shows. And i'm hoping this will keep the scaredy cats from bailing because it's like You make a bad. Tv show you make a bad episode of tv. Show you keep trying it's lower stakes streaming service. They cost less money. You know you can have a satisfying conclusion to eight episode series. It's easier than to try to like like john. Just said to try to cram the culmination of twelve other movies into a single movie. You can have a twelve episode season and have a satisfying season finale. And then you can have season after that right like tv. Takes the pressure off and gives you more room to breathe and relax. Now if mandalorian turn out to be a dud in the market. What are they gonna scrap that planet. Come from the other one. I need to get a little backbone at disney and figure what they can do with this very valuable property. Yeah except they hit the Mandalorian and john's point maybe Degenerate gambler. I don't think big yeah am sorry. Sorry i invest in sports projections. I'm sorry i've been right next to you. When he didn't gamble is is moving. And it feels like if disney is on box with their feet playing volleyball win avail tennis for for the sake of syracuse directed. Move quickly have. They switched to tv rather than movies. And if so are they. Making smaller beds rather than just Like smashed into the ground and scores points Or they are the understanding that like okay. We've got a play immediate environment. That maybe we didn't plan before because star wars. And now we're gonna have to do. These shows that are frankly. As good of game of thrones. I think at least in terms of getting attention and pressure and quality is. Is that the plan slightly more kid friendly but there's still low. So do you know what. I didn't watch game of thrones for the first year and a half because the very first episode saw a child thrown at a window. Incest prostitutes having sex in a barn with it was not good. It was like hey how much. Hbo can we stick into one hour. We've got all of the hbo and it felt. I felt insulted by unlike look. I don't wanna thrones credited. They didn't just put that in the first episode get series. It was there ruling. With and i went back like our friend chris parish. Now you've just gotta stick to it. And i did and it was better than i knew what i still never got over that like. Look you're definitely trying to. Hbo the crap out of me. A is is the mandalorian. The deadly Their defining what disney plus is. And i like it so far. Is that a pivot. Is that an abdication of like look. We can't make it on the big screen in trilogies anymore. Because that will this past. No i think they just rebooting the movie. But they're taking a long break to rethink the movie thing. In the meantime you can't let Stuff just sit there. Which is this. This is the benefit of not having it owned by one person who's going to get burned out a good thing for sixteen years right. It's the whole company plenty creative people who are willing to do stuff in this area so while the movie stuff is on hiatus and being sorted out because different movie rumors were heard. It's being a game of thrones. The game of thrones guys. We're going to do trilogy. Someone else is gonna chillier ryan. Johnson was gonna get a trilogy and who knows what's happening now. The movie stuff is like rethinking it. But in the meantime here's a bunch of tv series some of which are properties that were previously rumored to be movies and do the tv stuff. Now because it's it's lower stakes it's cheaper you can you can put incrementally it. It's a good fit for our covid times rather than movies and so this is all it's a it's a strategy shift like i said i don't i don't think they shouldn't have bailed on the movie. One they just did it badly but won miss. You shouldn't just give up after one mistake but it turned out. I think advantageous because marvel having a bunch of movies in the can is really not helping them right now. That black widow movie was done like a year ago holding onto it right. So actress at your hanson. If she wasn't scarlett johansson she's wrong in any way but it's like she's fine. It's it's not a big deal. Yeah that's been the bank for like what are you in half like it. Just it feels like a long time. Good thing that that we know people who worked really hard to get. I think finished on time. You don't blow. I i like and i feel like one of the things that the mandalorian is helping to sort of define is what does it mean to be a show you know and I forget what cocky is called them. But you know like super movies or mega movies or something like that. But t to consider a show like the sopranos It you can't say that it's less of an artistic achievement or has lower artistic then a a motion picture. It's it's of that quality and there's so many shows that have come out in the years since you know that are similar and and if anything are more more adult story driven more like you know the the character development and plot development of something meant for adults as opposed to motion pictures which you know the theatrical motion pictures which have really they have. They've moved more towards a theme park style attraction level of any partly the international market. That you can't have been. You're listening to my thesis statement. Though i came into this with a thesis statement about newland. You just came very close to it so my my stephen. I thought me. I thought we were gonna talk about season. Two of the mandalorian. We take care. We'll probably talk about season to let me have something to say about season one. Here's here's my thought on that right television. John just talked about the television in our in recent years like there is a dividing line. We're sort of the start of what we call prestige tv sopranos. Those type of hbo shows that were more sophisticated more ambitious in artful than tv had been before we all kind of know what the has all sorts of different names we can whether it was soprano panelist last ten fifteen twenty years saying things. You couldn't do a network television warren as formulaic. Were more sophisticated. More adult views of human interactions. Where characters did things in had emotions that were not explicable at the most elementary level. Or it's like a good guy and a bad guy and he's meeting these anger and he said it's way more complicated than that. I i go back to the sopranos because it's such a great example. If you look at the i mean obviously there are cartoon characters in this brandis but the main characters and their their actions and emotions and situation is way more complicated than as a first level. A second level third level tech subtext is just much more sophisticated right so that is the the big turn. The television is taken in our lifetime into that redraw. You know we're gonna we're gonna do star wars on. tv one way. They could have gone with star wars on tv is. Let's make a sophisticated adults version of star wars in some respects the movies. You're like that go back to the force awakens which isn't a straightforward star wars story that it's all the beats the you would expect but it takes itself seriously and it tries to do serious stuff In a way that you would expect from a movie right but television pre you know pre the golden age of tv. Pre pre sopranos pre. Prestigious tv. Didn't do that like if you had star wars and television. It's the you walk adventure. Which is less sophisticated than the original trilogy. It's simpler it sillier. it's more pat. It's for television right. But when they came to television with season one of the mandalorian. I think they did something interesting. Which is they didn't make star wars on tv. So it looks. Like game of thrones or Or the sopranos or breaking bad or any of that modern prestige tv. What they did was they made it a television show that held onto the not the innocence. Not the some like like the they made it. They made a television show. That that had this is going to sound bad. And it's not like i'm a trash can show but i'm not. It was less sophisticated than the adult fantasy television shows in prestige tv. It was structured more like you know. A western with a single silent character episodes nylon of dialogue of very simple story fairly straightforward motivation hints at lower slow pace. It wasn't a million characters. It wasn't like you couldn't figure out what was motivating anybody. There was no deep. Angst anguish was constantly unscreened. It was everything was subtle com simple understandable possible and in a way that i think subconsciously or not made people feel comfortable with the show. I mean it was it was show of its time and it was good for. Its time as we wanted more star wars. We didn't need it to be like the avengers. We also didn't want it to be like game of thrones of breaking bad or the sopranos we were. We were ready. It was it was the right show at the right time. We're ready for star. Wars looks familiar. But it's not going to overwhelm you with five thousand characters and tons of and you know a bunch of darkness and you know terrible violence and just it was. It was a breath of fresh air. And and i think they found like it depends on what you like. Have you want something. That's much more sophisticated mandalorian. Isn't it the mandalorian. I don't think is i think is as simple and straightforward as the original star wars. It's less sophisticated than empire strikes. Back right oh definitely so. That was my thesis. And then i feel like season. Two is good contrast to season one. But i think that decision for this specific show doesn't mean that's their whole tv strategy but that decision for this specific show was very smart. And i think is part of the reason. The mandalorian is had such a positive reaction. I agree almost entirely and i agree. I think than us suspect. Because i think he struggled with a word sophistication and you see it as being asked him. I implicitly and i don't think it is. I think mendel learn is a sophisticated show and it is expressed through its simplicity. But it's not sophisticated in terms of like Adult characters adult no no emotions relationship. I mean we know apple angrier. Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication trying to. I'm not sitting in a white room here. But i guess what i'm suggesting is that You get the sense when watching the mandalorian that they have considered that the rejected it rather than a dumb show. Yeah and that is that is a is considered. Simplicity rather than one is born out of like. Well we don't know how to do anything else especially in season one because such a such a clear on on the loan silent gunman in western type environment which is itself a fairly sophisticated form strikes us in this modern era. Like really you gonna have like three. The first three episodes gonna have like seven lines is the show and so shocking. Compared to like the television shows that are trying to be the vendors writ small where it's got gotta be tons of characters an action in like superheroes shows on tv. I just watched a wonder woman eighty-four twice in four hours it. I well i had to. He didn't have to. I got to talk to don martin and john most about it. I'd rather today. I'd rather watch the star. Twenty twenty years. The year of petro peskov dad and and it's weird. He's good in bed. Turns out the sophistication of the mandalorian. Is it appreciates. The sophistication of everything is gone before it. And it stops that in way that stores a episode for i opted basics. This was the seventies all of his contemporaries. Were doing really pretty deep work. And lucas went off into crazy space cowboy movie and it worked and i think that's a little bit of the essences being brought forward Into the mandalorian is. I don't think you can riff on things without knowing where you're coming from right. That's that's that's the story sold hills. But i mean i do think that mental and especially one exactly what he was doing and i think system to has grown and is building towards something else. Let me take a break. We have one more sponsor. And it's also can coincide with the first spoiler break and we'll just say after we come back from the sponsor break there will almost certainly i plan to spoil lots of stuff. Oh yeah and laureate so up. Until now i think somebody who was only mandalorian curious could have listened to us and Perhaps we've given them taste after this break. Spoilers free and there's no need for any of us to preface them But let me thank our second sponsor. Our good friends at feels f. e. a. l. s. u. experience stress having anxiety or chronic pain. Trouble sleeping at night once a week. Maybe more you're not alone. Many people do feels is a premium. Cbd product that gets delivered directly to your doorstep in naturally helps reduce stress anxiety and sleeplessness. 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Fifty percent off and free shipping. It's a great deal just for listeners. Of this show so feels dot com slash talk show and become a member and you get fifty percent taken off with free shipping. I don't think that the the the first episode. I went back and watch it again. They couldn't more i. I don't know what they could have done. In the first episode of the mandalorian. Two more dramatically say this western inspired than if they had put a cowboy hat on top of the mandalorian. It they needed one of those guys right. We're the kerosene the first seen as a lone gunslinger coming in into a saloon or the star. Wars universe call him. Canteens cantinas He jangle says he walks. Like yes spurs. It's you know it could not be more western. But part of what makes a western a western isn't that it takes place in the us west. It's about the pace you know and letting things breath and that to me is. What's missing in the modern blockbuster movie and what makes the mandalorian to me. So delightful is that you could just have extended sequences cockpit of a janke spaceship and instead of just cutting too okay. Cut to where they're flying to just have a whole scene in the cockpit. Were characters talk and stuff happens in you learn things and people say things and and you breed the moment or you know like you said about the first star wars. Like what a weird movie. The first stores is. There's like five ten minute stretch for you. Just follow a can robot going around the desert while we're we're little little people in robes with red is trying to steal him you know it. It's a very strangely paced. Movie that worked and the mandalorian. It's not strangely paced but it it breathes it and the other thing is to put it in computer terms. It's single threaded right it. there's you know. And so one of the star wars 'isms the wipes. You know the go between you know. Oh this groups. Over on dagoba this group of characters on best ben and we wipe as we cut between them. It's single threaded. You don't have to worry about that. it's just here's the mandalorian. And and what. He's going after them. That's it one of the great tropes of star wars movie is probably from jeddah where it's the it's the triple salt right like got land. Spare us land space and I trying to chop somebody up. It was basically you know what i mean and i think the best execution at that was honestly one. I loved that a Space ground come at was was brilliant and mandalorian keeps it so tight but when he's fighting one eighty s t. That's bananas it is. It is mind blowing. Like oh my god. This thing is just gonna murder everybody. It's crazy thing this village here basically people in this tank. How do we take up tank. That is the kind of stakes that i really appreciate finish show. I really really do love. It sees one. I think was amazing. In some ways i fear Don't on how you feel about this. It felt like a training series of levels for a video game that we're now just to play Season to where. Now you got troopers and now you got like. You've leveled beth a little bit more money. I mean you've got a jetpack you've got like you've got stuff to play with because the mandalorian like this is the first go. Is this going to work or people are going to like it. Or is it going to land like solo did right so you don't put all the money into it. You do the best. You can do things on the cheap. If you can with the big volume right save money. Where you can indulge indulge the people who wanna make actual physical models because whatever right but in general like it. I'm not saying that that's why it was a simple story. It's clear that they wanted to do what they did. But it's also clear that like the money was tight enough that it had to be one at us because you couldn't have an army from right and season two. We've got a hit on our hands. It's not like they really changed that it was still single threaded each episode. The mandalorian goes to a place meet. Some people does some things. It's not like this suddenly hundred people you know in flight at the same time and armies clashing and it's still very personal and private story but as as two you can see there's a lot more ships Oh they can have more more than one action episode right. The action episodes or the scenes of action within the episodes became more populous. And frankly better right so you know in and sees them on you had him hanging off the side of the san crawler and everything right in season two legit space battles. You had space ice spiders right. He had assaults on basis with all sorts of things. and so catano. You would not have done that in season one. Because i don't think you had the the knowledge institute launch to pull it off well and it works it works. You need to know how to like those swords. You need to know how to do a bunch of stuff about it did. Did you guys watch the cartoons So i did. Because i had you know. I think the last time we were on john. We're employing you to watch the old. Samurai jag animated. Oh did watch those two. And they were. They were there so much better than than they sound. But the the problem. I had all along with the clone. Wars was that so many every season so many of the episodes were just like and it's so weird because it's like with a regular sitcom growing up. You know like an episode of different strokes. It's like you've got a cast you've got set. Somebody writes a script and you know they're not all going to be good and that's the song to the facts of life but they all say you've got you've got cameras you've got crew in your film the episode and there's twenty twenty one episodes this season and you know a bunch of them are sort of phoned in and that's it but like with an animated series. Everything has to be drawn. It just seems like such a waste too. It seems like there's clearly more work being put into making these episodes than the writing. You know there are just so many episodes that were like why. Why was that even a show. That was that was terrible. Well i mean those the clone wars and rebels and those type of shows they were not above doing. I thought you were gonna say in terms of sitcoms they were not above doing the and everything resets. Yeah yep they would do a monster of the week they would do a land on the planet have a local problem. Maybe hit one or two character notes for development but otherwise we can mostly forget. That was what happened in moves on. But the thing is clone. Wars and rebels didn't forget that those episodes happen very often at the end of the season or even in a future season. Hey remember that plant. He landed on the thing happened here. Is that person from that planet again right. So it wasn't as sort of episodic is like a seventy sitcom but it also wasn't like the mandalorian literally like they're that episode but we're following this guy and he's doing a thing right. He's on a quest. He makes progress on us question sidetracked or whatever but like i think a lot of it was because those shows first of all they had way more seasons and second. Those were definitely more targeted at kids. Who would like the episode where you go on the planet and deal with the thing and could handle like small character development between the soka mannequin in this one episode. But mostly it's about whatever this monster of the week was and it's it's the same creative team like it's flown and everything like well not exact same crime but a lot of the creative team doing this and i think season two of the mandalorian reminds me a lot more of the the the rhythm and pacing of rebels and later clone wars than one. Yeah yeah and. I think that i think the other advantage that they have now and it also showed to me in the in the clone wars. With and it wasn't it was that the they clearly had their purview. Of what can you do within this period of time with these characters. I mean they were. They were hemmed in they had they had anikin will be one. You have limited flexibility. You know your book ended right and you know the the next. You know the Revenge the seth is going to be lucas thing and the clone wars movie was already and so you know. You've just got this interstitial thing and you can't really change the greater world and but yet we want you to make forty or fifty episodes. What are you going to do. And they also weren't playing with minor characters right and that to me is part. You know it's not like the mandalorian hasn't touched major characters but by making the primary character not one of the you know the opposite direction of solo right they took like arguably the most beloved hero from the original trilogy and made a whole movie just about his back story here with the mandalorian they just took a create an all new character who exists on the outside of this realm in a period of time where it's all sort of undefined and by not making it about one of the main characters there's so much more freedom to me like you know they learned the lesson of soka asuka and the troopers none of which were characters in the star wars prequels and now the most valuable properties to come out of clone. Wars is not anikin and obi wan kenobi wants show for like but soka. It's going to get her own show and the clone the the the trip is the we care about fives and you know. They're they were characters made out of nothing for the clone wars and those are the most valuable things to come out of it and yes we want an anna can march through it and a socha played off against an important way. But that's i mean. I think of it this way. If clone wars had not introduced new characters but merely had obi wan and anikin marching through the story with minor characters bouncing off them wouldn't be nearly as good yoyo. Opiate wants to miles. O'brien of star wars in it. That guys just an everything and is kind of under appreciated. Most of it. A i suppose like question is what. What's what's the i guess. Don't worry guy we'll edit. We'll edit this out no no. I'm i'm trying to formulate this in in a in a in a careful way. What's the value of having them be this episodic approach as opposed to trying to wrap it up in a movie which i think trust to get you pieces There's only less risk. There's less on the line. We get to explore more common ideas but ultimately is the value to explore this universe that was made in imaginations from so many people over the over basically because lifetimes or is it to tell a story and if it's to tell a story what's has story if we're willing to just discard some episodes of be like whatever moving on and it's more of a situational storytelling Endeavor rather than a narrative storytelling endeavor that makes sense. Sorry trying to formulate that carefully. Because i think there's a distinction there there is just the world exist to explore. The world exist to tell a story. I think that's one of the mistakes that the most recent movie trilogy made was the movie trilogies as as established by the originally. She's have always existed to tell us specific story which the original trillions. You did so well. So coherently right And arguably even though the prequels are terrible they also told a story. We know the story is. They did it very badly. But it's there all right this. The third trilogy didn't seem to nail down story at the start so feel like you're connected to each other but they're connected to each other in a wavy line. That just doesn't terminate and satisfying away. Stylish and that was a big mistake. Because what we're not looking for is. Oh here's three new adventures in wars universe because you look at the seven eight nine year. But you're supposed to be telling historian you kind of love that right. So that's what i think. The trilogy movies are doing. But writ large said before the star wars universe exists as a fertile place. Where you can were anybody can tell the story that they wanna tell gonna pass incompetence. Oh i was many many moons ago saying if someone wants to make a horror movie in the star wars universe let them go for it. Right like star. Wars is not genre. As far as i'm concerned in terms of creative works right if you want you know we already did the skywalker thing and i feel like fine. Leave that alone right but there are tons of new stories. You can tell them this universe it can still be star wars because the universe is well established and it will inflict your story. That's what's interesting about it. And it's like telling a love story in japan with samurai right right. Love story is the genre. Japan was samurai. Is the setting. You can do that. And it's cool and interesting right. So i say you know when people are going to do something. I'm going to make a tv series. I'm gonna make a single move young and make a trilogy of movies. Those people should have stories. They wanna tell whether it's a standalone love story or a set of three movies that connected an arc. Whatever it is they have a story they wanna tell nathan. This story can be told in the star wars universe. That's what they're doing. But star wars as a franchise. I feel like exists for anybody who has a good story to tell that fits into the stories universe to tell it. Has i love that. So and this is very very very reductive but it. I put you in the column or more. Tv shows and fewer movies. Or or what. What's your what do you fall. On that spectrum more experimentation with lower stakes or swings of fifth offenses might what. I would personally prefer which is not perhaps the thing that the disney corporation should do. I like trilogy movies to tell a story that is a that is a star wars that i enjoy so if i can only pick one thing that could be star wars. I would say to make new star wars trilogy of movies and have it actually be a sensible story into a really good job in it. That's my personal taste. But whatever right but i also love. Tv shows and watch a ton of them now. My personal taste and tv shows does go much more towards the you know breaking bad. The wire better knows the way. We'll terrible depressing dark quote unquote adult. But i mean that in the not the sexy times way of adult. I mean like adult as in again is the term sophisticated. But it's wrong. And it's not that i don't like the simple result in the way that interest elbows yelling at a guy for taking notes during criminals fucking conspiracy. That's funny or the. I know that it's like come on. That's that is a hair. I look at the look at the television shows that i watch enjoy a lot of them. Most people would look at it as very dark and depressing right. But i don't think that's the right choice for star wars. Which is why. I think there's room for that to be an star wars but dad will be the wrong move to come out with star wars. Show that right silly will not put up with the mandalorian or even bother torturing people. I don't see a little bit in terms of personal violence or sex like that even just in terms of like having characters on the show who have so much inner mental turmoil that they are they make self destructive choices. Right i mean things. I it's hard to think of because any show that it has also ends up having sex and violence right but like breaking the characters and breaking bad have problems in their relationships with themselves and others but then also has tons of horrible violence arguably hans solo was looking to get murdered in stores. The initial one right right luck but it but he's he's willing to just do whatever it takes but but that's not the right tone for that story was being told that's what i'm saying like when you bring in creators i think there's room for crater common. Tell us super story in the star wars universe but if the whoever comes in whatever creative person comes in they have know what kind of thing they're doing dave baloney. I think knows what. He's trying to do or knew what he was trying to do. With clone wars and rebels and fabric knows what he's doing with with mandalorian and i like seeing that authorities voice and it just so happens that there are thorough voice. I think fits very well with the star wars franchise now. There's a reason to be honest. Our own it aligns with us. I was gonna say like there's a reason people our generation and who has similar tastes us and meet all site empire as our favorite star wars movie because it actually is the most sophisticated. It's relationships are one notch little bit more nuance than just like luke finds the pretty princess and maybe hana's a little bit jealous. They take that one more notch of you know complexity instead of being middle school complexity. It's high school level romance complexity and you can his father and then i feel like djeddai for all its walks. People complain about takes level farther and see my episode. I talked about returning the judge and the incomparable. Having a franchise capping climactic movie where the hero winds through became passive and refusing to fight is remains unprecedented and is actually a way more complex message and story than people give it credit for now so much so that essentially never been attempted again. I mean it wasn't like captain. America was putting down his shield and refusing to fight. Panos has not done. So you mentioned and i agree. It actually is and i. I totally did not respect it. Not that i didn't respect it as a kid. When when return of the jet. I came out i loved the opening and i did not care for the walk stuff at all and i loved the space battle. And i loved the climatic vader luke emperor finale in the throne room. The i just thought that the whole thing on the door was like this is like forty minutes to filler. And it's like it's so blatant that they just wanted to get our main characters together and okay the speeder bikes blah blah blah. I totally i d. I didn't think that sucks that luke refused to try to fight the light the with his lightsaber. But i didn't respect it at all and i agree with you john. I in hindsight that it's remarkable. It's this movie about people. Cutting off arms and shooting people and blowing up things and that the the true climax and it feels it is a natural storytelling moment. It comes about organically feels true to all of the characters and true to what came before it. We had three movies. Acknowledgement offense. Never attacked wasn't right. That was the it was. It was so aren't yeah it and it is interesting. And it's it to me stands. It helps that movie stand as a classic helps the whole trilogy feel like it was tied off in a bundle and it stands trilogy and and to me to go back to just my opening point that it doesn't matter how long the on going cinematic universe goes. It doesn't matter what officially canon and what's not in what used to be canon and got erased when they decided to reset it. Those three movies standalone. And there's nothing that can come. They could make twenty seasons of the mandalorian. And make obi wan and young princess leia and you know to do whatever you want. Do like a whole series. Where where i mean. Eventually i've been saying this fears eventually. They're going to reboot the original trilogy. Realize and and i'll be fine with that too because that doesn't take away from the original movie that they're gonna do it. They're going to catch the new lucan lay and they're going to redo the trilogy probably more grandparents right about that owns that they absolutely will that leads me to something that was going to ask previously and eventually it's what is it one hour fifty minutes closing in We should talk about mental lawrence's into what is your pecking order in terms of a cannon and i don't mean like i don't worry about again i don't worry about it either you know. What in carteret. That's cool. I used to a tv show cool. If it's in the movies that counts and is basically it. I you know there's been a lot of people complaining about the end of season. Two of the mandalorian because he oilers or free to say he couldn't take the dark. Saber because blah blah mandalorian code and they were like well in the cartoon. Someone who cares. Don't worry about it. There's a pecking order to this stuff. And whatever gets written later. I think it made perfect sense online. Learning season to because the our character. Our hero is established as we didn't know season one but in season to reveal the. Hey lauren's is you are about the whole helmet business right. As one of the things i love about. Warf is whenever he interacts with klingons. They're like whoa dude. You just got to tone down and realize that you just thought they were all like that but now you realize they're not and so the whole rules about the. Oh you gotta fight for. It's no more stupid or reasonable than any of the other rules about mandalorian than i can imagine for depending on who's on either side of the dark sabre saying i actually take that rule super seriously. I can't actually. You can't actually just give it to me because then i won't be the rightful leader. People got all sorts of rules for their society. And i'm willing to let that slide and something different the but if you don't believe drills you're not bound by them but if you do then you are me to exactly how i feel and you know what i love about. That is a media at very first reactionist yield. Any what you'll be like. I don't care you. Haven't i find your meeting. It not helmet. Because he had. He was forced to couple of episodes earlier to make a choice. Like d care more about the helmet rules. You care more about saving the child then. He made his choice exactly. I don't care this is yours. i yield. I don't need my ego to fight over this dumb thing that got off this asshole. That was going to kill a kid. So he's he's worth it and going to blow the death star to know he's frustrated about. Just take it. I don't want any part of any of this. And this chris wizard guy they just came in and chopped up a whole bunch of salons beck as kind of spooky and he just took my kid. There's there's there's a scene in the first season that bothered me. But in hindsight. I realized they were right. I like it. And the further development of the mandalorian character says to me that it actually was right. But it's the scene might have been the first episode. I don't know but it was early on. You mentioned it where he gets somehow gets caught up with. Some jaw was and the jaw was steal his stuff and then he gets them back and But he doesn't kill all the job loss. And i was like come on this guy and and it's because i was reading too much into who what i thought. The mandalorian was Was he. he was a bad ass when he was going after one of his targets. But it turns out that not killing. Those jaw was for stealing. Stuff was definitely with the correct for this character and darker. Take on this like i. I was thinking about that the other day of like the first episode of the season one of the mandalorian. Our bounty hunter is faced with a situation. Where he's gotta kill this cute little thing and is you're going to do it or not. It turns out. He saves the instead of killing it right the way many listeners. Out there if you've got a choice between shooting baby and shoot the robot murderous robot. It wasn't just the bystander. Because the robot don't care can build another robot. The more conventional way to do this character in the modern era of television is to have a previous series of events where the mandalorian is established as somebody who does to the bounty hunter code by showing a situation where he is told to bring in a sympathetic character dead or alive and ends up killing him right and that is you know and we see him do that. Like oh this guy's the anterior thing. He's he's a little bit of a bad guy. He has a code and he didn't want to kill. The guy was like well. I gotta do what i gotta do. I kill him and then he when he's faces baby. Yoda he's like. Okay well now. Now i make a different choice. But mandalorian doesn't do them into says from season one episode one. This guy's got a gruff exterior. But he's a softy. He knows right from wrong. He's had a hard life. He puts on a hard front. He's a great fighter but there isn't the episode where he kills a baby and then has second choice is about and is haunted by it and it makes a different choice. The second baby. Yoda good from from the jump. Right cre- with you so much. Because they're horatio sanz character. The guy did they meet bar convenient warm or cold and then he's an idiot and he goes messing around with. Thanks and it's like yeah. He turns up cold but he's not dead. He's just frozen in carbonite. It'll be back in season two and they'll be friends like that's guard of the that's part of the family friendly nature of the show and it's part of also understanding that you can have a character who has the job and is conflicted and has character development and moments without first putting them into the super-duper anti hero thing like the farthest ours is famously. Han solo shooting griego. I which is the hardest core arc that you get of like we know haunt is good hearted but we also the first thing we see him. Do i mean grants self-defense. But we don't see him find a non way out of that situation. I feel like that's why regretted that and keeps trying to mess with it. Or whatever. And i think that a little harder edge helps otherwise fairly fluffy movie but the mandalorian clearly. They want you to know this character is character has inner turmoil and everything but we are on the mandalorian side from from the very beginning and we feel his struggles as he goes on with his whole code and his helmet and people on the kid and whatever but we always know in that. he's good. yeah. I think i forgive spielberg and lucas for their The examination violence did did they visited in those earlier films It is unfortunate that you can reach back into history and to change things. But i understand that. They've moved their perspective. Now they don't like their hero to shoot people or the bad guys need to be carrying guns in now. You get walkie-talkies. I think it's mistake and i. I ve ejected revisionism of it but i understand the evolving nuance is. Because i think we've changed to like if we'd made something In earlier period i think tank is is It's a part of the period in which made it like you build things within the culture and the solution is to make new things not to go back Exactly not actually changing and we know you made the other and honestly han shooting. I is in a life or death situation anyway. We agree to obey kill is justified in perfectly fine and it's not like han is a super hard edge thing you know. We see him is guard down. These guys must really be desperate when he says that he sounds like a little kid. Frankly it would be and so. That's just thought that's why like mandalorian. As that is the way you address that you have a you have a character this a total bad ass and his version of leg convenient warm or cold. It's like well you still can be life. I'm not gonna kill you come on. What am i jerk. He doesn't want doesn't wanna kill you. There's a windows you can. He has to kills plenty of people on the show. But it's not his preferred course like as we real his backstory. He's had a difficult life. Is you know the droids came and killed his parents. He got adopted by these men. Lawrence had the strict code. You had to learn to be a fighter. But he doesn't like if he had if he had grown up in in luxury and not had to worry about this whole situation he would not have ended up at his about for sure and even then he comes to love joins Episode season two is like you know what. Let those stupid droids. Just go up my ship. That's fine i can. You know my my heart ingred. Oh analogy is that lucas went back to that. Scene is though imagine if the original scene had been han was on his way out he was already done. He's like all right. We got this deal with this crazy old man. We're leaving any looks out of his corner of his eye in grio just happens to be at a table having a drink and he goes three zero and grows and he's like hey. I remember that time you cheated me at cards does like oh yeah and then hundreds shoots him dead and then walks out the door right now. You laugh but there are scenes. Like in the. Clint eastwood westerns. Were stuff like that happens. Where a guy just you know just out of the blue just shoots a guy. If haunted done that. I could see where lucas would you be like. I got that never smoked. Hansel wouldn't be the console that the reason we love him so much just because he's not that happened jerk write lincoln his first movie. Is i start off seeming like a jerk and then mostly seemed like i'm selfish but in the end neither one of those things and that's moving number one right. I think i think his first thing when he shoots credo on just trying to survive right. I'm just trying to get outta here. I'm gonna i mean he's he's a survivor for sure you know over my dead body. That's the idea like it. Turns around and he comes back and saves loop which hope point any. Does he tips. The he tips the bartender extra. Sorry for the mess. I mean the last the last time. John and i kill somebody in a bar. We didn't we didn't even chip that. Well we just just just bolted john. I'm almost surprised to hear you call the character baby. Yoda has a name. Does he have a name. I feel i feel like if they could have ever can't help but think that they they regretted not giving him a name instantly Part of the mystery of season one of the mandalorian. Let's defer difficult decision until later right and they'd almost have you guys seen the gallery the gallery for season two. Yeah i did. Okay yeah it's not pert into this but it will come up. And i just wanted the what for season two at the gallery. The star wars making of making us. Oh i didn't. I did not but you can tell so far. Making thing is how they made it but yeah but his his name is grew goo name a fine star. Wars name I it's such a great relationship. I liked it immediately. And i know people latched onto in all my god. He's adorable But he's adorable his. It's that simple it. There's there's no reason to overcomplicate it. It's an adorable idea. You get it immediately. He's he's one of yoda's species he's obviously special. He's you know he's powerful in the force And it's it's a fantastic combination of of introducing a very star wars in character and a macguffin all in one it it is so great but then the other thing like one of the great tricks of the original star wars is like like spielberg has said. His favorite characters are two d- two because he's the most purely cinematic character movie history because he can't talk it doesn't make any technical sense you have a universe. Computers can talk obviously because c. three. Po does and this guy just beeps and has asked our mac. What does he need to talk for. He's just it's just a it's just a a little person at a trash cans you know what we're growing up and we could hear her drives worrying. It'd be like ooh that's about sector right. But but chewbacca never gets a subtitle. Of course they do the dialogue thing where the with art as well. It's translates for the response. Includes you get the pie. But it's a great thing that only really makes sense in cinema. The novelization never really capture are to detour. Chewbacca you know even the comic books you know because it's the actual beeping. There's nothing you can do in a comic book to make the beep emote. Did you guys remember buck. Rogers whether it's like a little robot or a medallion of another little robot. Doctor dot is something. Yeah and he. He's to butter butter butter butter. Honestly not doctors planet planets. The save you go look at all i'm saying. Is that like you know what they could have done. That for star wars. They did not and i think it takes one of the things i think makes delaware so great is the willingness not to explain things to you is to just let them sit there. And chewbacca growls and like you this and that didn't seem good or or he sort of chuckled at han. And you're like yeah. I don't know what you laughing about exactly. Yeah hans being a bit of an idiot and you get that and you run with it and and it. It lands I think if anything where the prequels well there's a lot of places where the people's fell down for me but it's over explaining vader. Oh yes that just star. You don't need to explain this stuff. I'd imagine over explaining isn't the problem by dr theon. I was hoping to get over here at the the the trilogy. The prequel thing not to go into it too much but getting back to the godfather again. The story the the prequels had to tell was had the good man. That was your father become trough vader that story to tell we already know how it's gonna please tell me that story and the best example in my movie canon of seeing something like that happen to believe away is the godfather part wanted to because we have someone who is essentially a good person at every point trying to make what he thinks is the right decision but essentially ending up as a force for evil despite his best efforts unknowingly. It's hard to tell that story so it's not like it's like oh please explain to me. How any concern. I wanna know who they can turn it. It's a great story. Got fell apart and to tell a great story of a essentially good hearted person hearted smart person trying to do the right thing and ending up. He ends up at the end of here. Which is not a good place It can be done. It's just pretty don tricky. What's actually true for both him and his father right like the then. That's what makes it godfather to so billion. Not what i want for you right but it and also but also a good person who is honest and does what he says he's gonna do. Although he the marlon brando like the original does end up as a comparison against michael and that he gets to go out more or less never having never having killed his own brother he stuck to his code. He did leave his family better than he found it. You know what i mean like. And the son didn't even didn't live up to that. Let alone be a senator right. I would say i'm i. I'll just insert my annual holiday spectacular. perhaps surprising to many aside that i enjoyed the prequel trilogy much more than just about anybody of my generation that i know and think that they are fine movies. There james bond movies are used to some bad dialogue. They're not what i wanted. And not what i would have made. But i appreciate them for what they are I lived in beautiful design in good music. Those movies in the middle and a one hundred percent agree with syracuse. There is beautiful design in their holy cow. Some of their shots are great. Fatima especially has a lot of very vertical columns in the thrown like that. There's a lot of cool stuff going and akins by walker is no michael corley own in terms of probably blew. The story couldn't tell that story. They did not write any kind of believable blewett hundred a much more. Michael corleones Young michael corleone young antic skywalker would have made for a much better trilogy. But anyway he's back by the way. I don't know if you know that who is hayden. Did he play. Oh yeah and kenobi by the way kanobi favorite guy i. I'm so happy that we're going to get a show about that. And i'm really kind of Trepidation about it includes that. Can he can do some justice. He's an amazing actor. Come on ener. Is i guess you know. So that's here. We get to the greater expanded universe that they're using their sprouting and and to me. This is what makes the mandalorian so clearly successful is that they're using it now as the trunk to branch other things off so vet series saga series right. Any sochi series wasn't at to me. I at least as somebody who doesn't follow the comic book news comic book world news. I my understanding. Is that the announcement that is going to have. Her own series came after her appearance on the mandalorian enduring her episode. They introduced that she. What is what is she doing in the world at this time. She's hunting down granddad abalon. Who's the guy from the books but also appeared in rebels right. And and gordon quote cannon right and so all of a sudden well how is that gonna fit into the mandalorian and say. This is terribly exciting. I remember him. he's a good bad guy. he'd like whether you really really are into him or not. You have to admit he's pretty good bad guy And you know. He's he's a earn rommel guide for people who haven't earned rommel being a nothing general so on his own he. Robin was a nasi. General in north africa fought diminish on the us to some degree was going to be enforced. Beaches on d day but general kind of like a grandma thrown if that ultimately turn against hitler and gut shot for. It's not a good guy but somebody the british to prop up because it made them feel great about fighting an honorable opponent. But krant admiral is definitely like. Let's take rommel and make a blue and put them in space. I believe we have covered in past holiday. Spectacular the very conspicuous plot holes and patchworks and gaps. And things that really don't add up at all Between maybe the way that george. Lucas didn't really think things through and then tried to make through like for example. Just the the whole wine world. Did obi wan and yoda not go to kill the emperor together. Why in the world would they split up. And even when they failed in their own weird ways why did they go into exile for twenty years when they both clearly. We're very close to being able to defeat these these and then just let the whole. The whole galaxy succumb to sort of fastest fascistic authoritarian evil. I don't know. But i think it explains what luke did he's like. I don't know daddy taught me. I don't know why it's working tags. You told me to run away to this. I mean brian's prequels that tried to that's stuck in our minds makes sense but without the prequels there you can come up with with my sense of personal personally being like devastated by what's happened and sort of punishing yourself and exiling yourself. We'll even even there. I think the last jedi in luke's Position their support set. What am i going to walk out there with Beat the whole empire. Well i'm just a guy. I can't do that. I can do it if yoda and obi wan had been like. You know what those two of us. There's an entire galaxy full of these people linger play. The long game stupidly hiding of anderson on his home planet but whatever like had a long game the longest right but the argument billick. Why didn't we just double a. Forces and go take the well. If you know the prequels that wouldn't have been an issue like that would be like well. It's about a million stormtroopers between here and there and there's only two of us and that's just not gonna work no matter how much of a bad as you're well. I still think i've always thought that there it was. It was ambiguous right from the beginning. Just what vader meant right in the first movie when he says you know when last we met i was but the learner. I mean you get the sense you know we. We find out later that you know that obi one did this debater But it was always to me. It seemed purposefully vague as to whether there was one incident twenty years prior where that happened and they haven't seen each other since they had seen each other in the interstitial years at some point you know even though it's clear that the he hadn't seen obi wan in a while and they they they could do nothing. I do sort of preferred. If that he just left him there i would've. I don't think they're going to be seeing each other again. Because there's pretty clear. I think in a new hope where it's like they. They split up and they split up one last week. The student teacher we know will be on taught him blah blah blah. And they don't come back together again until it's on the dust star with luke so i don't think so but i would have liked like instead of chopping off and said i had the high ground which was doug. He said you still got a lot to learn. I was going to teach you so much on the master. Your the learner. Look at you like that would have been put. It would've added at least a little bit to vader's like am the master. Now you know speaking speaking of things in the prequel that people don't like and everything it's interesting how the mandalorian has walked the line with the baby. Yoda he's got a high m count. We don't say the word it starts with the letter m. and also importantly only the imperials that say that and what they're doing with it right. So they're they're either resurrecting the emperor there making the snow or whatever the hell they're right they're tying it into the movie cannon that exists in a way that's like okay. We did on two seasons of this are still on a big darn. Hurry to tell you what they're doing with baby. Yoda blood right but pretty clear. They're making either smoke or or emperors or something like that or maybe a third thing that we don't know about right but we're we're all on board with that now and as much as i despise the prequels as much as i think the old make lawrence is done. I will continue to say this. The very first movie the entire original trilogy. The force is strong in your family. It is for for better or for worse than people. don't like it another. But for better or worse it is a hereditary thing now. Interestingly for the last jedi people that doesn't mean that there's literally only one family. In the entire universe that can have the forest lots of things are hereditary like skill and sports can be passed on from father the son and yet there's not a single family that populates the entire major league baseball. There are tons of family and they can come from anywhere so i just want to say that those two things can live together. The force establishes hereditary also means that can be people other than skywalker and palpitations are having in fact there can be millions of people and in fact just like being good at baseball. Just because you're good at baseball and even if you're andre agassi and steffi graf doesn't mean every single one of your kids is going to be number one in the world in tennis right. Even though you've got like literally the best genes you could possibly imagine. That's just the way the genetic lottery works. So i'm okay with that. I'm okay with 'em count admitted chlorine they wanna say okay. Well we figured out how it's passed on sorta kinda. Just don't tell me too much about it because all you have to say is the force is strong and your family. I totally bienne. It makes sense. That's all needs to be said. I tend to agree. I am very much in into the the the democracy of the force that did mind johnson introduced the last jedi. But i agree that. I don't think that they're opposed in. You know anybody can have to force practice more. Also also which is a big part of the ryan johnson. Things you don't think kid sweep industry has the forest. But why wouldn't he. There's no reason kid sweep in. The street isn't going to be the next the next else. Best pitcher in the major leagues. Exactly all of us having the opportunity to do that. Like that always completely harmonious to me exactly. Think part of the reason. I haven't seen anyone freaking out over. And the mandalorian is the didn't lean on it too much and be like i think people are on board with with that idea. Like i think it is actually harmonious. I you know half the reason people got better shape about the last trump has nothing to do with these people. Say it's about now. There's no there's no Incongruity there. I feel like as they reveal more about what they were doing with baby. Yoda is blood. And whatever and they tied into either smoker the emperor or something else. That'll be perfectly fine. Because in the end the mandalorian thus far in two seasons has been a personal story about a small number of characters that we care about. I don't see that changing. Yeah i think it's a little bit like It's like the reverse order so with with the medical reasons we've got these prequels from twenty years ago. That went way too much into trying to explain this. And it's like what are you doing. What are you talking about. Where are you going. This is this is awful. And now you can just sorta touch on it. And it's like okay. We'll accept that and it's like the reverse of like galactic senate politics right where hey in the movie. There's some kind of talk about wait. What are you trying to do. The senate's gonna throw a fit and they're in target is just like the senate to hell with them and if they go to solve the senate or the low level bird as well. Yeah second lieutenant in the imperial navy being like hey you know. I'm going to have to ask you a lot of calls about this. Yeah i don't. I don't ever fuck i don't care i did. You see strangle somebody. I don't care. I'm wearing i'm i'm gonna murder a diplomat all right so you figured it out. I've i've got questions here though about the grow- grew the baby. Yoda so the i. As i understand it just from watching the show the baby. Yoda is like thirty years old fifty years old so and he was in the jedi training. He's the same age as anikin. Or listen here okay. And so that sort of explains how iota could be nine hundred and thirty years old. You know in return to the different species age differently. And he's so. Yeah he ages these these these whatever they are age so slowly that A fifty year old still can't even talk Justice at both of you have children and neither of you are as then in force as a suspect you'd like to be. Would you put up with a toddler for fifty years. I mean i feel like if i lived for nine hundred years. It's i wouldn't feel like i'm burning. Fifty hit more than half of my life fair enough. It does seem like a lot of work but it take that trade. If my kids still couldn't talk us fifty. But i lived in nine hundred. Signed me up all right but man. What a good dead parts. So part part of the problem with the whole star wars Timespan or at least the time span. We're familiar with from the because obviously you could go back a thousand years and i know there was the knights of the old republic video game. That's like doing tv series for that. It's not as far back as the nice the republic but its way before the new hope young. Yoda if i got to pitch i. I would pitch young. Yoda as as a pretty good idea for a trilogy. But that's just my idea. I mean the problem. With young yoda's you are burdened with the now canon of the principles which i am very adverse to any prequels after having watched forget the star wars prequels star. Trek has had very very difficult time doing that. Book discovery and enterprise sort of founded on the shores of the future. Let's on the discovery enterprise in two different classes. I think discoveries. Doing a pretty good job i do. I do with the judge. They got out of there right. Yeah yeah i do. I like it but i think they like. I'm not. i'm sincere when i say that. I think they found on short of the future there. I think they ran out begins things. They could not really rationally make sense. I don't know if they needed to but they chose to take them seriously and they got out of there there. They've gone not to spoil it but they're in the future in that's different and it's a good show but it doesn't i think when you right to wards in inevitable conclusion you have some sort of limits on better. If you're gonna do that you better do it in the form of a trilogy where you know you're just gonna have free movies or something. You can't do it as an ongoing tv series now. I haven't much better call saul enough to be able to call across all this fantastic and also very different from breaking bad. I think it's a great example of doing something to do it right. you can imagine. How can this possibly work. This is going to be terrible and it isn't but it also isn't breaking highly watch most of the season one. It's on my list of like you don't want unav- eighty day when i'm sick contemplated going to binge. It'll so here's my. Here's where i'm trying to go with. This is in their timeline. There's the era would never lots of djeddai and the whole one two. Three prequel trilogy is about okay. How did they go from. There was a lot of jeddah in jeddah order to the are almost extinct when obi wan's old and young lucas twenty twenty years old and gets trained. And there's a time when we're down to literally the last jedi right. That's the name of a movie yet. You can't make star wars movies without jedi right there. It's it's that's the thing. That's the difference between star wars vitamin. Can you could but you want to write. And that is. The mandalorian did for solo. Yeah but but it's horrible and it's like you end up with the i i was not a fan of the rebels show But you got that kid. What was his name. Whatever happened named is he. Dead off with one is where we're getting back to the doctors. Maybe less annoying as adults. But you end up with this thing where it's like you kind of as a creator. You need to start. You need to invent some djeddai because otherwise this isn't wars but that's that's the beauty of the though is because it's genetic because it can pop-up anywhere right that anybody can be strong with the forest and all. You really need that point. Is the lightsaber. And those don't seem to be too hard to come by and all the religious aspects around it of the jet. I order of khyber crystals and all these ceremonies that can grow and change and the old republic i are nothing like the jetta and the prequels and can be nothing like in the future. You if you have a universe where the force exists and people have laser swords. They're always be djeddai. So i don't worry about that. Well what and in fact is nothing like jeter who statement yes. She's got big problems with the jet. I order like honestly out. She she she did the marrow thing like secure your princesses in another castle like right. She's like yeah she's she's she's like ronin right. She's equivalent ronin one hundred out there who are strong in the fourth. I mean he's he's not being well. I guess adoptive now. We'll see how that but we know how to go. Luke ends up not doing too well as they running running jedinak in weird. You know. here's where i'm going what. What was yoda thinking. Yoda obviously knew about grow- grew and so did obi wan because he was born fifty years before and show that whole time went on he was dead though. Like we know that. Like in revenge of the all the most of the jet air killed. The jedi temple is burnt down whenever and let yoder could think all the young lions. They're all gone now out. What did grow without eating eggs. Wouldn't grow gooby one wouldn't he wouldn't he you know let's not say that iota is racist. But that he he you know he was remember. Yoda stupid prequels is flying around on troop carriers and commanding troops in the field and doing all sorts of bi when everything went down with with the jedi temple and and everyone getting killed and anikin killing the young lions and everything grow like you said he was out who's stealing eggs somewhere and he he managed to dodge that whole thing and he's so small. Nobody noticed maybe someone smuggled them away. It's real easy to get grew out of that situation without anybody know again. He is not what he's doing he's little. He doesn't know how to reach out through the forest. Had to put on the rock for that. Really easy for there to be all over the place that obi wan and yoda do not know about and and jack sympathizers to like oh. My god. Anikin is out here murdering everybody. I'm just going to have this kid run. That seems reasonable. Like the god this cleaning the floors and the jedi temple Maybe puts down the the cyberspace. Bob and just grabs the kid. It's always easy to hide. Yeah well here's where. I'm going with it though now. Now when we reach the end to season two and i thought it was. I thought it was pretty good. Plot point i love the way it was directed where we watched it on security cameras. Well you know you do have a affects budget to stay within. Keep it hood on them and keep it in grainy video. It's there's a lot of money. I i liked it. I started built up a lot like everybody knows who it is. You could tell from the different markings on the swing. I loved it. Somehow in god knows when future slash past slash. Incredible technology. still don't have Like you re there lcd screens blacken. Whiteness skips a few frames. who knows those red markings. It's the right but we've we've reached the end of season. Two luke skywalker swoops in the loop. We've always wanted this man. He saunters in. He's swooped in with the x. wing. I mean that was swoop and i mean there's a very cool line very cool line where cara forget her last name. Something whatever dune doff. something. I trace now. Sorry wrong one. But she says what's what good is one x wing right and dude it's karenna and what a great line because they think. Oh you know it's like whoa like we're all vaguely aware of vague of the time line and it's a whole my god no and i have to say i didn't watch it like on day one but i've gotten so good at staying spoiler for i had no idea i didn't even know ideas well had no idea and i'm watching with my son. And he he said he was. Like it's luke and i was like i think you're right and say oh. It was awesome so satisfying. I don't i didn't love watching the whole thing on the security footage but it's fine because it was cool and he was luke and he was as awesome as you could think it wasn't the whole thing and it right well and then honestly i think it would have been good the white bean. It would've maybe fed a childish Wishes to see him. Just some people wanted was the equivalent of the rogue one vader hallway scene right right but they got it right. It wasn't it wasn't as artfully done. The vader hallway scene was beautifully. Shot and complication is real. Easy can put any guy in that suit and you don't have to face and everything like this one they had you know it was less dynamic the doctor kind of lined up like it's it's a show it's not show exactly right. It's the tv show but I it why is it gave us the luke that we wanted to see back in. Let's say a genetic eighty three well eighty eighty five when we were like. Hey luke skywalker. They're powerful. I assume he continues to grow after the movie because he barely gets out of the death star to buy this guy teeth right. Yeah like the last jedi. When you say. I'm done with this. Is this sucks. But we different discussion. Well but i also enjoy though that. They spent more time and and and him beating. The dark troopers was sort of handled quickly. And then they let it be more of a moment of whoa. Whoa we but wait a second now. What he's just going away with groggy. And that's it is greg who's gone 'cause you know luke is not going to be like in show every week right. It's it's like baby grew. Google has gone and we love. We love baby. Yoda the whole world. Loves baby yoda well. That's that's part of the season. Three the mandalorian which is actually going to be a little bit of a gap. The whole show does be baby. Yoda i feel. That situation has been resolved up until the point where the table burns down. Luke totally blows it and training everybody but that's genuine but but anyway grew. It's not like he's going to be flying back to visit kroger every time he doesn't need to but it feels sad. I was sad watching it. I believe that the mandalorian is sad to say goodbye. I grow goo was sad i it was. It was an all felt true and earned and this is this is a total star wars success and i always come back to the word camaraderie. As as what. I loved about the original trilogy what i love most about empire strikes back is that it really established the sort of camaraderie between our heroes. And yeah you know there's a legitimate camaraderie between the mandalorian grow. And which is amazing because the mandalorian is a guy in the helmet who barely talks and grow doesn't talk and is right right strikes back hans solo rights out into the cold to his death to save luke skywalker who i don't remember the last thing he said to him but it was. It was like basically amodio kid like. I'm going to take money. i'm leaving. that's the last thing we saw him say. And but this one of the smart things empire did was have a bunch of stuff happening off camera. They reference to say look. We've become tight. You like all the time new. Hope we were friends. We all hugged in the hangar. We all got medals except chewy But then even since then we've been on adventures together so we are now tight so this doesn't like what he called the bounty hunter remained on mandela. Whatever like there are adventures. That happen between a new hope and empire. Which lets you start empire with. I'm going out there in the cold to save my friend right exactly. Yeah and i'm not quite sure. This show is done that yet. But it's but it's harder with grogan. He's a little kid he's a baby is a baby. Yoda he's cute. And everything and the mandalorian felt for him because he himself was found lying all connects together with the whole thing but he also recognizes. I don't you know this whole force using know that the force is. He's trying to do right by this kid. He realizes that me raising this kid is probably not the best especially since. He's got this gift which i can't help him develop in any way whatsoever so he calls the jed eye and luke shows up which seems like a best case scenario but obviously he hasn't seen seven eight nine right baby. Yoda does not seem to have a bright future. Maybe dyes magenta temple. Or maybe like his species pretty wild he gets the hell out of there and he just hanging out on us. I i suspect that We discovered the luke finds him untrainable. Because he's too attached to the attachment. They are started on that. Yeah i know. I'm so here. Here's the problem with. I don't think there's ever going to be the budget available to do a yoda tv. Series now Because you can make a character like yoda moat and be amazing like they did an empire but to do it on tv budget. I don't think you can do that. So i don't think a character like that can hold a show. I don't even. I make a difference. I think they're the accents on a story. The main protagonist is going to. I think that that's the way those couches. I mean you think about something like the dark crystal or even like the hobbit movies. You can have a diminutive someone alien looking character. Carry a franchise but you really did win. Moves the dark crystal. But i mean even Like did you. did you watch the netflix. Show gives it. Yeah they didn't all right didn't land as well which time we got to wrap it up. I have two more questions number one specific to the special effects. What do we think about the special effects to make young luke. I thought it was great. I was like this is. This is really pretty good. I although on your renowned for you're keen vision. So i my back to twenty twenty in one is probably have. You probably actually have better vision than i do with my stupid. You'd be but i really. I was a perfect no but it was good. It was clearly of the same technique that they use to make young laya and rogue one. Which i actually was i was okay with. I thought that was fine. I mean like. I said when we were discussing this in one of the slacks that were in the way they would do when we were kids as they were getting young accurate. Look sort of like look right and we and we would know. It's not luke and we'd be like that's what you do on tv these days. The thing that you do is what they did. Which was computers and you look at. It does look convincing. But it's like it's fine. Like i look. You're just trying to tell a story. I the way i played it for. A lot of this stuff is like when you when you watch like a play. The kids school in someone comes up with a big cardboard boat or something. It doesn't look like a real boat but for the purposes of the story. You're like to spend the whole time hanging up like that. Cardboard boat doesn't look real like just enjoy the performance right. All they need to do is say. This is luke and amazingly with technology. We can make them look. Actually pretty close to the real luke into this amazingly with the voice which i still don't know how they do just accept as part of the story and i did and it was fine. Now can you again. Can you build a series. Can you build a young luke franchise with that. Cgi luke no absolutely not because the tech is not ready and it's super expensive hard to do but for the purposes of storytelling. I'm fine with it. Just the same thing with the rogue one and everything. It's just they're just not there but the thing is you never gonna get there if you don't keep trying to do it so i always applaud the effort the i it was like completely completely for me. One hundred percent believable. But then you immediately go to this terrifying because ten years from now they're going to be able to make anybody sound like anybody in order to do that. You ever use the scripts to do that with your own voice. Descriptors us map by the way. That's that's like the jenky version of i. Honestly i don't know how they did. It and i was hoping the gallery thing would tell me. Because that's all. I wanted to know i know how they did. Cgi face because we all know how they did it and you know in rogue one everything but how you do you have choices you can mimic mimicked to the voice you can have mark hamill do the voice and then modify it or you. Can you can manufacture the voice. Adam sound samples which script does only junkier away. But i don't know which one of those three things they did just from Comments said hamill is made on twitter. I believe is involved in the production. Somehow i'm gonna have to guess it was voice and maybe mo cap i don't know that old guy for the young luke thing for the fighting stuff did feel like the like the beach model. Even the voice wasn't one hundred percent. Because when when i listened to it i'm like that's super close but not quite i. I loved it. I thought it was a great twist. I thought it was deserved. Well-earned i did. My last topic is later on just one second. I one absent with us accused of that. Yes we should keep doing this. I i think that in the future. We're going to see a like in conflicts in everything else Representations of going to change over time and yet the characters the main the same. We have the technology more or less to do that. Now i think we're gonna see it. More often and i think subsequent generations is gonna come to see like well as superman looked like. He should have had a mustache or this lou. Offerman moustache or or laying looked a little in the case A know there was some last minute changes were. I've been told there was some last minute. Changes to that scene. That changed the lighting on it. That made it stand out a little bit more. There are difficulties doing this. But if you've seen ant man it works pretty great like this a bunch of stuff that has done this technology were captain marvel. They d age. Tim jackson using this technology is just gonna make it more effective. And i think i think it's viable interesting. Way forward in terms of keeping these essentially mythological characters alive and representation of the people at first buddied them. Do i think that's necessarily healthy culture. No as light we are. We are accustomed to and totally accept the other thing which we all live and even did insult you. Just get a different actor accepted like we're not free. That's not young harrison. For nine people can handle. It happens all the time. It does not detract from the storytelling. In any way and it is way cheaper. I agree and yet i admire the beach because i'm still waiting. I paid to see final fantasy spirits with him. I am all in full unfold. Cg photo real people one hundred percent do it. Let's get you enjoy that. Because i did not i did not wanted to give the my money and say yes keeps you do that because they because i think that's super cool thing that you can do. What did she sorry. I. what did you guys. Think of the irishman and the and the aging effects in the iranian. Did i mean that's no like again. I think it's a good thing to be able to do well because for certain stories. It's super important to be able to do it. Well for you know because if that's the thing you want to do for the irishman just felt like getting the band back together but the band is all seventeen and you wish they weren't and i love you. I think any trick done. As a trick is is with pulling off i think jimi hendrix leading his guitar on fire with you know letter alert and then playing with his teeth. That's cool maybe. Don't do a whole concert like that is is kind of my feeling on that. Like do it worse appropriate and where it's going to get a wow in a bank factor I think the one tried to do that. Well in i think certainly To the finale tried to do that well Don't hang your hat on that. you know. it's a trick. Appreciated like a trick and deployed accordingly. I mean it wasn't good enough to be a full length movie yet like the effect wasn't good enough to build a whole movie on again. United not going to do unless you keep trying. I think story. The irishman was good and certainly involved were good. But i think you really need a young man's energy to play a young man and all you want but he's not that young man anymore. Well and the one and the end the particulars scene where it stood out everybody's talked about. It is the curb stomping scene where he body right right and it's like that's can age the body to but now because even more expensive and troublesome and it's like well then why do we even have the reactor in there at that point and it's like yes exactly. Just get someone i mean. Deniro played a young marlon brando and it was fine like it worked. Great roy with it. Yeah especially now that you make me think about it. Too much whatever's for starts playing d. age right and they superstar relate that at all but we both we would actors. They're both incredible actors and they're both had people but not the same person even a little bit cheaper to just get a young guy who looks like a young guy right and the other funny thing about that too is okay in. We never saw young marlon brando. As vito corleone but we everybody knows what young marlon brando looked like. He was already you know from a very young age was yeah who is built like a brick shit house and you know did not look anything like what we actually got to see on on but you know but deniro got to play the young. Vito corleone which is not the young marlon brando brandon. They're both playing the same character and just because one comes first ones comes the key. I bought him as young. Vito care if he looks like marlon brando. Oh totally one hundred percent. And i think maybe maybe we're falling into the trap of Going for visual similarity rather than it's a cool thing you can do if you can do it. And if you could do it convincingly i think it will be a great tool to have in the tool chest but right now that tool fall short of alternate techniques so use it. Use it sparingly to just advance it into i mean just think of it this way think of like fake backgrounds like think of like a show like the crown or whatever you know in you can make a show like the crown in the seventies and it would be fine today. We have tools in our tool belt. That are so good. They were just a routine part of doing stuff. Which is like. I'll put in buckingham palestine and nobody will ever know and it works so perfectly the non issue when we get to that point and if we ever get to that point with the aging by all means use it whenever the hell you want right now it's not at that level so you have to really pick and choose because people are going to notice and it is going to stand out and you have to balance that you know. We want to keep practicing us and getting better at it so that we can and get to the point where it's not noticeable. Right now is so. Let's factor that into our creative decisions and not build a three hour movie around. Can i tell one juror. One thing i was most interested to talk to you about tonight. was You had definite perspective on the ark of luke's character and i feel an not put woods Feel like you felt a little bit betrayed by the last jedi and his A eric in that film. How does a final episode of mental season to sort of fit into that. You're gonna thrown out there on john's trying to close on the show. What is your final point john about. And then we'll see if we have time for me. The address guys i just the most. That's deposed. essential thing that we have to talk about. How you guys wanna give john chance. He had one final point he wanted to make. I wanted to say. I wanted it to complete aside. I just want to say my favorite special effect of the entire two season run of the mandalorian was the idea. I think he's i g eleven. Droid you eleven. And i think what made it work so perfectly number one just great effects work but number one number two. It's the fact that the original. Iga character was made with nineteen eighty-one technology where they built. Like what can we make that. Looks like a credible assassin droid and it would look like this and the mechanics of the droid that they created to make a real world slightly. I mean barely moves in return or empires expect. I think heads riffles. He's got like but it becomes this thing that is completely able to be made completely realistically in today's cgi. And it's just like oh that guy like a herky-jerky robot that's because he is a herky-jerky robot right it was i. I love that. I thought it was so great. I love it and Just today or maybe yesterday. Boston dynamics put out a little video. What's dancing and it's going to be so much fun. My before we close we could close the loop question my other topic before we close on that would be. What do we think of bringing boba fett back. Ooh good one. That was my that was awesome. That's there's a little bit of a deniro effect in there. They both put on some weight. The new but nothing. I kinda did you can lean into that right because we're and we're saying this is bobo who has been who's been digested slightly and he's put on some weight and he's this'll his little worse for wear but he's still pretty cranky and if he's if he's a little heavier now and he's older that's the character and so go with it and they did. They talked about that in the gallery thing that they wanted to give both at a different fighting style than the mandalorian and what they getting his fighting style. That befits the actor. Who's playing him. Which i think is great because there's no established stuff in the universe and the existing canon of what bob that's supposed to be like after he escapes. This acts up. Guess what this is what he's like now. Can they build a series on that gruff. Tough character. I don't know we'll see they have to. Especially since he's on the job thrown are on the bid fortuna thrown or whatever. Whatever the call that he takes over there like. I'm not sure where that series is going to be like like. He doesn't seem like is that of character that you could build a series around but you know like i'm i'm i assume that people who have that who had that franchise have a story in mind that they want to tell my thing. Is you have a story. You wanna tell them the universe go for it and if you wanna use this character seal free because it's not like bobo fat in the original trilogy is so well established that you're hemmed in. He's cypher heading that monologue. Where he describes everything that he loves and being bucked off one of those giant cows on nebiu. And he's just. He's released fully fleshed out character. The whole season should be about him constantly reliving having his backpack malfunction when he gets accidentally back embarrassed just use just constant like nightmares in dreams about teasing him in the street. I for everybody at bar solid. His head is down and he's just a chance you question john a i don't care i don't care. I like the actor. Mike character when i was young when we were young and when fed went into that celek pit. I felt a little bit off. Because i thought he was a great character I wanted to see him do more kick ass stuff I don't know if you guys felt it yet. But we're old. I don't need to see him colorado so like bitten kick some ass. I don't care. I'm not really entirely sure where. That story urk goes. I was more invested. Oddly because they didn't like him. In the first bit bill burr's character this season excite me more than i did like him cracking storm trooper helmets open. That was cool. I guess the first time we've seen stormtrooper armor shattered and fragmented. We've seen it burned. We've seen lot but then bounced off. This is the first time we've actually seen it shatter like the plastic. We know it is i. I was dying for that to be the episode. Where armor actually worked like half a rock explode and have robbing bounce off. Armored doing elliot. Emily's asking you about this too. And my in universe explanation which may or may not be supported by the materials we know the empire chiefs out on its crap. It's atmosphere and tie fighters it's not giving these people the best armor it's better than no armor in that. Maybe you'll take a couple of rocks from an you walk and not die right but it's not gonna stop a blaster right. Yeah knock down. You had a fight. Yeah right or may that it's just like quote unquote armor and they just want these guys. Tell me terrifying if you on a motorcycle it would keep. Your skin firming scraped off by the asphalt more like motorcycle armor. It's like yeah. It's put some protect if you punch it with the bare fist. That you're going to be glad you've got that helmet on but if you have a big metal stick with the point anything at the end or blaster. Uk problems with finn saying like what that ours just to the. We feel empowered so we can go kill people like it doesn't they. Three d. printer stuff doesn't keep about chemicals keeps out smoke but not not chemicals. Wasn't that one of the lines and one of the movies. They're like year something like that. That make sense. It's just like you know what we wear. The armor of the we feel scary and powerful. All the same person at this point is getting extra extra stupid but Should have a show sure. Why not more get employed awesome. I think they've already said it's a limited run right like they're just gonna read six. African goes in. That's it. I can say i go for it. I like the idea that he's a fringe character. And it's not one of even though he's beloved like super beloved. It's a fringe character. It's he's a guy with a helmet so there's no no need for worrying about the aging thing you know i liked it. They hired the guy you know ensure he does well The the original german book died they higher over prequels. Yeah i'm trying to shoehorn in mentioned jimmy. But that's all right but you know and you know it's alright. They've already there was the whole you know. You never saw him without his helmet. But you know if they took off darth vader's helmet back in return of the jedi. They could take off anybody. So i'm fine with it. I'm going to you know i. I think ten years ago me would have been upset about it. And i'm like Let's see if you think you have a story to tell for. These characters aren't precious like fine. I like it. I feel like he's in good hands. I like it Like the idea that the first thing he did when he got his stuff back together as go. Kill bill fortuna. Yeah i love like that guy. Every put on like a hundred some odd pounds is thrown in the pounds. Just come on frog after frog. Yeah it's just wrap up decadence. It's a sign of dennis. We'd like to wrap up revisit guys question about luke's third survey i really. I think this is pertinent question. I think it goes to the hardest. I think it's less than you think. But just just your problem. Tell me that for like thirty years. Now my problem. With with with luke luke in the last jedi has almost nothing to do with what you see luke doing in present day in the last shot. I did with the flashback. In which we are we are led to believe that he seriously considered killing the son of his best friend hans solo because since the dark side them and nothing. We had seen onscreen up to that. Point since took us from luke at the end of july to the likud. Make that consideration luke. Luke couldn't even consider fighting let alone killing his own. Father who had blown up entire planets right and suddenly he's going to consider killing hans solo son because he's an innocent child because he sort of sends his the dark side in a little. Because we know lucas so afraid of the dark side and ramiz anyone who has a dark side and he will kill them you know. He won't absolutely won't so that did not fit with this character now. I'm not saying that can never happen. But you have to build the story pieces. Taking me from the loop at the end of july to luke the considers killing his son. I have no problem getting to luke. Who's who's bitter on the island. That's super easy because you can just do that with like well. I tried to train. A bunch of people out blew it. I'm super sad about it now. Bitter on this island and that they told that story but the how did you get there. Oh i was thinking about killing hanson. Nope luke would not do that. And that is my giant objection So i think luke on the ireland from luke had routinely jeddah. You can do linear interpolations there right. Schooling thing didn't go well it. Totally super piston and bitter about it. And that's the thing you can imagine happening but in the harsh nephew. Yeah but you know. He's mostly a good hearted person. Who feels like yoda some respects. Yoda sort of went off on his own and was a little eccentric in his little. You know hidey-hole on dago bond right that a little a little Yeah but we won. And that's a little bit of my explanation for lou. Larisa now learned is from these guys who just basically van wayne. Now here's the thing. Luke at the end of the mandalorian season two is very much id mckenna right. He just comes in. He swoops in he murdered. All of the bad was any takes the kid any any books little bit plate but if anybody had argued for them you get the sense you still gonna take that kid Does how does that. Fit into your interpretation of luke between points doing a star cameo in this so first of all. It's the luke from basically. The energy is wearing the same frigging outfit tried. A lack way could disagree on this. I think luke in jeddah was more dark side than i think you do it. Ultimately his whole battle was against being tempted to the dark side because he wanted to have a relationship with his father that he was willing to consider that but no i have to resist the ultimately decide right but i think that inherent in his character the tempted to go that way and i think that this episode. I mean he's not really tempted to go that way. It's just that he wants to save his friend. So much like the emperor is trying to turn his goodness against them. It's not as if he ever considered being able because that might be cool but he really wants to save. His father nearly wants to save his friends. And also he's a young hothead he's a young man who was pissed off. The you know your friends out there on the moon like anyway. I don't wanna talk about sure. Sure dirk hadn't been robots and they'd been people. Would there be any. Lestat all right. So so the luke. Lucas comes up here like he got the phone. Call from google. This call out. Hey i'm a little bit. I i'm just a baby. John was so much potential reference. Nobody will get you. Don't stop laughing. You do not get that reference. Don't care you think that the people out there that we'd get there there are at least five people listening to this. Understand what that's a reference to. So lucas making star cameo in the tin the seventy s. Tv show style. Who a big star is gonna show up for one episode in say a couple of lines. It's established that the whole art. We gotta find something to do with debuted. I can't deal with them. I needed so cas no. I'm too busy doing the throng thing. Maybe a phone calls. The answers look answers. He's coming in and his his his agenda. Full-fledged i what he's up against is chicken man with dark saber. Who is not a jet. I by any stretch of imagination isn't even really good with dark. Saber i love the them. Chicken man i mean in the boys do anyway. Plus a whole bunch of like rank and file you know empire people and then the robots the big killer robots right. Now it's not like they're just showed up to be cannon fodder for him. The robots were established this big deal like these robots i've got some crappy troops and whatever. They're they're not great right. I mean the emperor's now it used to be first of all and second of all they never really good. But i've got this tech right and so that's my big thing and so i don't feel like they're set up too so luke doesn't have to kill real people to come in and get grow goo. That's what that's what he's got and they're actually pretty tough. If you're not agenda. I right and so he flies in and you know they're not even on a real start a destroyer. Then what does the light cruiser. Whatever like whatever little thing. It's no problem for him to show up strolling. They're fairly casually wants threat. He sliced his lightsaber. Goes through them perfectly. Well right yeah then. Destroy droids with shields and all kinds of the more complicated. You know offense up. Yeah the more complicated detroit. It's more complicated thing. In the star wars universe droids are treated which solid touch and yet but anyway The dark troopers seem to not even really be particularly sensitive or particularly smart so he strolls in he gets the baby yoda. He doesn't have to have a lines. He doesn't know these people he's off. He's we know what project he's undertaking. He is like we defeated the empire. Now i'm going to start up. Training jet i again. You go do that luke. It's not gonna turn out well but you don't know that yet right. So he comes in. He goes and his character. He doesn't do anything out of character because he's coming in to rescue somebody. Which is the thing that luke would do. Because he's good her and the fact that he answered is because he's a he's luke he always answers. His friends are endangered. He's he leaves and goes to cloud city. He's got his friends. That's totally a luke thing to do. A killing the robots on the way and no problem. I that's perfectly in keeping with the lucas far as i'm concerned i like it because it's internally consistent where the argument is well. Why didn't yoda and ben kenobi. Know that baby grow do who was out there. Well they didn't know they thought he had got. Maybe he'd gotten killed. They couldn't send some. They don't have that the forces that sensitive like they can keep track a luke because they knew to keep track of luke but they didn't and then You know why didn't luke fine baby goo earlier. Well he didn't know either. But then there's this magic alter and baby grew has a religious moment on it and it sends the signal up in luke hears it. I like it okay with that. I think there is It's i mean for lack of better to mounted lines on earth right where magic. Lions said introspective. certain point. you take him to. This point of the galaxy is going to be able to talk to people Jeddah can't talk to each other because the Basically messed up seriously. Like even in the frequency like We can't see the future we don't what's going on. Things are bad a so it it makes sense to me for that I don't know how you felt. When luke took grow gu. I felt sad yeah. I've said that i felt really. Yeah and that that is the hero for my youth now but it is a sad parting but like the whole deal holman learnings arc is like if you were rooting for the mandalorian. Just adopt baby. Yoda he'll be your baby like. It's never going to happen because he he can't give baby yoda a baby. Yoda needs like the thing that he needs to do. If baby you're is still has potential is to give them to someone who understands force crap and it's gonna be sad when you leave but like but that's what's best for the baby so he's doing what's best for you and i think season three's going to reverse that decision i don't know i mean it depends on like i think it would be a wise choice to again. We know what happens with you looks training. It doesn't go well. I i don't think you can keep bringing it cycling baby back in put them in parallel and then put them in peril. I think he just goes off. I think he goes often just abandoned jedi stuff. I mean with manda. Meanwhile bob is watching the sales of baby. Yoda related merchant. And he's picking up the phone. Look you guys. Maybe baby yoda back in. Listen the picture on baby. Hey you do what you wanna do but you gotta get baby voice. Do you know what i love about that. Phone call is that favreau is so much the goose that has laid so many golden eggs for that company like he's basically created the mcu and now he's like the star wars. He's he's he's made. He's got to be a made man and it's like okay so john. I hear you ready baby. Yoda i love the way you cool. I love it anything. You want buddy. Meanwhile he's already launched the successfully with blockbuster hit show launched the single. Most important thing. Disney is done strategically in the whole internet era which is disney plus and made it a must subscribe thing. And it's like he's already done this thing but it's like you can't take your foot off the gas pedal on the baby. Yoda toys pajamas conversation. Babies animated a little young lungs. I have you guys ever seen the chef's show at it's on. It's on netflix. i've i i. I've shared a link with uber. It's good it's really good. It's just fabio. All i can say i've gotta i've got a three and a half year old niece and all i can say is for that demographic you can put baby yoda on enough stuff. I don't even know kids use lunchboxes anymore. You could just bring back lunchboxes and if it's got grew on it. It's going to sell everything. The baby yoda all the way down. It's and yeah anyway. I'm going to call that. I'm going to call that a spectacular. That was great. You guys. I appreciate your time So much there was a lot of fun for me. It turned out is as good as i could imagine maybe a little longer but what. What are we going to do. What are you talking about dead. We're under three hours when they break. It'll be yeah it's not awful. We're here to work. You did in a little bit. I couldn't be happier. Honestly overall the bait the ba-. I don't love the mandalorian i don't it's You know. I think there are a lot of people who like it more than i do but i. It is more than good enough for me to say. Hey this is a treat. I really look forward to it. Every friday can't wait for season three. I think they're doing a great job and it makes me happy that Basically that star wars is in good hands. I like it. It's not not my star wars. But i don't make star wars and i'm glad that somebody is making very good star wars. Yeah i will echo that. I really really enjoyed mandalorian season two. It's very different than season one. And i suspect on. I hope that season three will be different I hope that some of these new shows pick up on sort of what the promise of mandalorian season one wise which was a band of people that are not attached to luke skywalker at some point or like the the greater just to the universe. Although i know there's a there's a strong dwell it will draw these stories together The other thing. I wanted to say happy birthday. Chancellor accuser already. Did we dare do that three hours ago. But thank you. I know it is your later and we're getting there. We're like an hour away so all right thank you. Thanks to our sponsor squarespace. What else did you say. Good final. I had plenty of more star. Were really are you telling me. Are you telling me after all of these years of knowing you that you're tapping out don't usually have closing statements. Star wars is good. Let's make more good stores. The end every go god would show where you guys looking forward to boba fett. Show the obi wan show or the us ohka to know we want to know. Novi is my guy. I don't know. I i i would have said the soga show but maybe maybe oh one i can't. I can't really decide really honestly it depends on what show has better writing like. I'm like i loved that. There's so many shows that i can pick and choose favorites among them and i just wanna see who's got the best who's got the best writing team for television. That's almost all that i care about because it affects are going to be fine. I know the actress can all act. I think it will all be great. Give me some good writing. And i think that's the key to the mandalorian. Honestly it's the best thing about it is that it is a well written show and that i agree. And it's like it's so good to see somebody to see that they respected that and Didn't just figure we'll put some lasers some spaceships and call it. A caller show speaking about february. I think at that guy could retire just on having pushed for and make possible volume that they used to film stuff in that insight alone of like being able to do this kind of stuff in camera with a virtual stage is billion it. It's it's amazing. It is remarkable even filmmaking and my hats off to everybody involved in it it's really really really cool and i think it unlocks all of these other shows because you couldn't shoot them of the on location. They cost far too much. But now we've got like five six shows that are you know within reason to create and i think i think when things get cheaper to make we get. We often see a higher quality outcomes because you can take more risks. Well well said guy all right. Mary new year to you all. I'm going to call that a show.

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Tim Conway, Who Relished The Role Of Comedic Co-Star, Dies At 85

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04:05 min | 2 years ago

Tim Conway, Who Relished The Role Of Comedic Co-Star, Dies At 85

"Support for NPR and the following message. Come from gusto providing payroll benefits and HR services for small businesses. Gusto serves more than sixty thousand businesses nationwide with full service payroll HR, tools and health insurance at gusto dot com slash NPR. Tim Conway at comic actor whose career ranged from the Carol Burnett show to SpongeBob squarepants died today due to complications from a long illness. He was eighty five NPR TV critic, Eric. Duggan says Conway built a career playing bumbling goof-balls who barely took center stage. Tim Conway often helped turn good television shows into TV classics. There was his breakout role in the nineteen sixty sitcom Mikhail's navy as a bumbling ends in World War Two Charles Parker. Parker has a request requests. Guess her permission to faint and the Carol Burnett shows mister Tut ball a heavily accented, boss. Perpetually annoyed by a slow moving secretary been more. Handy if I put their revolving door in here for you. He popped up on the cartoon SpongeBob squarepants as a frustrated superhero kick called barnacle boy, at least some of the time. I'm tired of playing second banana to a man who wears a bra from now. I want to be called barnacle, man. Come. We also starred in many TV shows but few lasted very long as he told the archive of American television. He always felt more comfortable being the guy standing behind the star making everyone laugh, I've never been comfortable as the star. I don't to feature myself as being the hitman I would much rather stand in the background to make small funny things go than be up on at the head of the class in Thomas, Daniel Conway and Ohio. He served in the army and knocked around and Cleveland's local TV seen before heading the New York to join the Steve Allen show in the early nineteen sixties because the show already had a staffer named Tom Conway, he adopted the stage name, Tim Conway toll. Weakened addition hosts got Simon in two thousand ten during an interview before a live audience that a childhood disorder led him to consider comedy as a career. Well, I was dyslexic. What was still am? Because I would see. The words that work there and people just started laughing I thought well, this is a good way to make a living. I'll just go downtown read and have people laugh. But it was almost a cover up some Barras meant that's a good idea, which I thought Conway's role in Mikhail's navy lifted lots of guest appearances on variety shows eventually he landed a regular role on CBS popular, Carol Burnett show where he developed a reputation for science splitting improvisations that would make us co-stars crack up laughing in one sketch Conway played a young dentist working on his first patient departing from the script. He ad-lib the character accidentally shooting himself with novacaine making co star Harvey Korman break out in laughter. Take firm hold of hypodermic needle, right? Nineteen seventies and eighties. He appeared in films with Andy Griffith show. Alum Don Knotts, including Disney's the apple dumpling, gang Conway and Harvey Korman also worked together in films and stage productions until Corman died in two thousand and eight Conway wants six EMMY awards over his career including four for his work on the Carol Burnett show. He also went an EMMY in two thousand and eight for a guest appearance on the sitcom thirty rock as an aging comic remembering the old days while touring NBC's New York studios men game to work ties and hats, allegance pillar mates shoot. Inside. Monogram pocket for your opium pipe and your switchblade. Sorry what? Now say what you showed me around the old studio in a career that spanned nearly six decades. He used a fast with an impish improvisational skill to turn hapless bumbling rolls into the most popular characters who almost never got top billing. I'm Eric Dagens.

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It Votes For Creepy Joe Biden Or It Gets The Riot Again! What You Need To Know About The Coming War

CRUSADE Channel Previews

10:19 min | 1 year ago

It Votes For Creepy Joe Biden Or It Gets The Riot Again! What You Need To Know About The Coming War

"Continuing on Michael Davis has this crisis magazine Dot Com the coming pandemonium. The. Democrats are planning a war. They are planning a war. GUESS WHO GETS TO FIGHT IT? Well. If you're driving looking to rear view mirror at you soldier. To public. They know that they can't be trump they know that the swamp is being partially drained and they also know that at the mother of God, Our lady is a ascendant. There are more people every single day professing devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Now, look I know that many Protestants that rubs you the wrong way or you don't understand that I only bring it up in the first hour of the program because I believe that ultimately the traverses Biden vote comes down to Catholic. Catholics cannot vote for the Biden. Let Dash A ticket as a mortal sin don't commit. Don't do it spread the word. But. Every single day. Our Lady is on the rise Jesus mother becomes more popular, not less every single day, and that's not simply by virtue population growth. There is something that is happening out there. That may not be happening fast enough for some people, but it most certainly is happening. And the demons know that she will crush their head is the book of Genesis said and they don't like it. So. It's wartime guys. Hey, Bro. Slab a helmet on pick a weapon up and stand a post because it common. And Warren Davis has just the coming pandemonium which goes right alongside with it votes creepy Joe Biden or at good still riots again. Other headlines This is an interesting take going to bring this up maybe brother Andre and I will talk a little bit about this topic. This is from titus to Scherer at the American Conservative magazine website. cuties shows conservatives need a will to act. The Guy makes a valid point and there are some people on twitter. One mistake will kill you twitter. That are also making his point although I'm not sure because your. Tax Doesn't carry tone. I'm not sure in what tone. They're making the point. But avoid making is and this has been going on for quite Quite some time is one of the reasons why Gingerly extricated myself what I call Trad. Inks Trad wars not interested don't WANNA play. Got Many, many other productive things to do because the people corning fingers in nitpicking. All the people that are hanging out here on twitter. Supposedly. Catholic aren't doing anything. They're just hanging out here on twitter you mean like you. You're hanging on here on twitter so you can make the accusation. And there are many people that are doing things now, I don't know. Here's what they what does the thing equal. When you say people aren't doing you they what do you want to do? Here I have several suggestion. And the suggestion is just it's it's easy. Find some the lives of saints that you admire. and. Take them as your patrons. Learn their lives and in whatever way you are able to try and emulate them. Treat them like they're football star. You know the role model right and try and emulate them. And don't be afraid to do it publicly and don't be afraid to do it. We're all your friends and family could see it as well. If you do that I, think you've done everything that just that is required of you and then some. Apparently. That's not good enough for some people they need their pound of flesh and blood. Now, I want you to out there and want you to pick a fight when those be starting to warn I want I want swords, Eros, I want guns, I want cutthroat I want. You remember Harvey Korman from blazing saddles. There's a funny cigarette I want Mexican bandits. I want thugs, pugs, mugs. In any event I I think if you try to emulate they the. What it is that the That the saint that you admired has done and I think again that you've done about all that you need. To do. I want restless. Throats Mendez, bounty hunters, desperadoes, mugs, pugs, thugs. halfwits dimwit fight burst I purse conman in the agents Mexican bandits. Muggers Burglars Bushwack US on Swag. He's bulldogs train. RABAT'S BANK ROBBERS AZTEC. As. Methodist. He's in his. methodists. We'll talk more about that with brother Andre Marie during our visit them day. Segment. Mike Church show here on the crusade general always on air and online crusade channel Dot. com. But the guy is right. Partially that you need a will to act John Taylor Caroline counties, what is sovereignty? Can you define what sovereignty day would sovereignty is? It is. A power. To exit to power to to. To legislate a will to enact. Fear the power to pass the law and you have the will to enact. It makes you that was the king or queen or governor or legislature It said we all have that similar sovereign power sort of let me go to the phones. This is todd McClure. McClure tables DOT COM. Who is a long-time supporter and booster of the crusade channel and I I if you're looking for someone is actually waded out into the into the breach Joe and Joe say and wage war against these these people talk Laura Your Guy Laura, how are you? I am glass. How're you? Mike I'd like to say like. I've been thinking since you remember Robin I can't remember the guy, the comedian. the Vietnam thing. So Good Morning Vietnam, but it's good morning and. Robin Williams Good Morning. But. You know. I I what you talking about everything that you just mentioned is exactly. Where we're at and people want to wrap their brains around everything, they don't want to put their heart into it I am blessed in grand rapids that I have a society chapel ten minutes around from around the corner from my house and I've been attending mass there throughout the shutdown didn't barking lot quite a while and I'm still a member of my parish which the traditional mass twelve thirty and I spent a lot of friends down there. We have a men's pillars group that we do the and and fifty three four has come one time, and if he's listening, he's welcome to come and can get or anybody in grand rapids area. We have a men's billers group at six am on the second and fourth Saturday of every month at sacred heart of Jesus parish, and it is run by a religious that director, and we used to do the psalter in the morning, and now with the bishops rules I. Loved it because I didn't go for wild I've gotten last couple of weeks. But now with the business rules, what we're doing is the. Music director leads the skull as the singing of Saint Joseph's in Latin, and so that's all we're doing, and we're spending an hour and silent admiration front of our blessed sacrament and everything that's going on i. Wait that's out there I heard some of the people on your show talking about the way to the Eagle I've felt it before at places like abortion clinic you could even you can even feel it. Praying a graveyard, you can feel the good spirits, but you can also fill the the way to the evil If you WANNA get closer to God pray close to the debt but you at the same time I am feeling. The power of the angels and I feel it's kind of like how diamonds are made in the rough right. Now, this stuff that's going on is we're making the fosters. There are so many saints being created. Oh You know what? That's something that. CanNot Be said loud enough and often enough because we have all of these are people out there these vested interest in their media enterprises and things stain rotten and people thinking that they're rotten you can't bring themselves outside of Archbishop. Vegan oh to say that, hey, man there saints being created right now do God's make an army of Saints Right now?

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The LEGO Star Wars Holiday Special

Pop Culture Happy Hour

14:17 min | 10 months ago

The LEGO Star Wars Holiday Special

"This message comes from. Npr sponsor three am who continues to expand production of the respirators. Frontline workers need globally and is on track to supply two billion by the end of twenty twenty more at three m dot com slash covid. Three science applied to life. The lego star wars holiday special on disney plus is trying to do a lot of things at once. It's a straight up holiday special for families with messages about coming together to celebrate friendship. Love the whole choubey hallmark schmear. But it's also a story that takes characters from the final trilogy and sends them hopping through pretty much every climactic moment of the skywalker saga and beyond it. Gently satirizes the franchise. The way the lego star wars games do it even references the ultra cheap nineteen seventy-eight star wars holiday special which was a fiasco stuffed inside into buckle wrapped in harvey korman. So who's it foreign in. Does it do what it needs to do. I'm glen weldon and today. We're talking about the lego star wars holiday special on pop culture. Happy hour from npr. Don't go away this message comes from. Npr sponsor hbo max presenting the new. Hbo original documentary series murder on middle beach which follows filmmaker madison hamburg as he investigates his mother's solved murder and tries to absolve his loved ones through intimate madison uncovers a web of familial secrets connections to shadowy figures and years old resentments bringing his own family and community into question stream murder on middle beach now on. Hbo max welcome back here with me from her home in. Los angeles is entertainment journalist and producer. Joel moniquet joel. Let's let's get to it. So the lego star wars holiday special brings back. Computer animated extruded plastic versions of ray fin. Po chui rose legno and the droits the only actors voicing their original characters. However are billy dee williams kelly marie tran and anthony daniels who never turns down a gig and bless him for it. It's life day. Wookey holiday of peace and harmony while the rest of the characters set up for a party on the millennium falcon ray and eight go off on a journey that brings them in contact with pretty much every major character in the entire star. Where saga joel. What'd you think Man these legos. Specials are always such delight. I like the original stuff they've done. They made a hybrid crystal spaceship. It's one of my favorite things about star wars now. Video games entertaining as hell and this definitely lives up to exactly what you expected to do. It doesn't fun. Things in movies could never get away with. It's like a really great catch-up syllabus free. If you have young children that you're like please get into star wars so that we can have this bond great thing to show them so they a brief synopsis of everything that's ever happened in star wars. It's delightful. it's fun. Yeah i mean it's unabashed. Fan service i mean. It seems a little more than that to me. Actually but you know what. I'm a fan service. Me the thing that makes it weird though is that it seems like it's trying to be service to a few different kinds of fans that'd be one thing like if there was only one kind of wars fan. That'd be fine but there are a lot of different kinds of fans. I mean some fans of the original trilogy really hate the new abram johnson abrahams final trilogy. They characters so four grounding ray as much as the show does is going to turn them off and let alone giving her such a central role in some of the original trilogies biggest events. That's going to send them straight to read it. I mean the fact that it is also clearly just a joke. it's just a goof. It's show for kids. That's not going to matter to them. Where do you fall in the phantom. Yeah i saw the prequel trilogy when he came out. When i was ten at the original trilogy was like a staple of my childhood but i become a die. Hard fan at moore's animated series. That is my big intro. Like oh my god. She's a girl and she's holding a lightsaber. And it was everything to me. I don't think the diehard og fans are going to watch this so. I don't think it'll be a problem. I think they have any interest in lego star wars. I think they're going gonna see on the cover and be like not for me. What really interested me about the series. And what i think the people who do watch it will really enjoy is like the way this sort of spoofs the original christmas special but also it's a wonderful life somewhere you're like star wars as it's a wonderful life very exciting. None of this is canon. It's not going in the movies. Greenlee impacts the universe. Please just let your kids enjoy this leg. Ones are so funny. It's cool at one point. They have a character whose have been the movies. But it's lego so he just breaks apart. It's so kids. Well say if you're in originals fan and you're like i'm not sure there's going to be anything in here for. There's a lot of nudge wink so like why did that happen. I don't know moving on. And so i feel like it's trying to engage you absolutely. It's trying to see your point of view. I mean i belong to the cohort of fans who like the final trilogy. Just fine thank you very much. But wished went further to distance itself from the first three films instead of just reading. The same story beats and character arcs. I was disappointed. And i think when we talked about on the show a lot of us were that the rise of skywalker dropped so many of the threads established in the last jedi. So for me. The fact that rose i think if count rose gets more lines in this silly thing then she did in the entirety of rice skywalker. That's kinda sad. But i'll take it more rose and the fact that we see finn starting his training under underway ray. Which was something that was kind of mentioned or hinted but this it's good to see ten thousand percent. Yes that that is the we could absolutely have used in the original. Because i don't wanna get you into what could have been but like his. Like oh he kind of has the forest but not really mumble. Weird stuff at the end of the trilogy really bummed me out so to see thin holding a lightsaber. Even though it's not his lightsaber yet. Yeah it was cool to see him in his training. It was fun to see him like bull struggling eager to learn. And i like that is the core element is raising. She's going to go back and look at different masters and apprentices to see what their relationship is like. I think is a star wars fan. There's something like extra exciting about being able to visit these moments in a way. That is outside of their core representation but lets you enjoy those relationships all over again. What's happening in the blink of an eye right and even if it's happening sort of at a slant because like for example i like the way they characterized the emperor in this. I mean he gets the best lines. He's less pure dax. Iii absolute power and more snively whiplash. It's cuter cuter insecure here. Yeah yeah. I think this has some solid jokes in it but i wanna preface this. I want to let people know that. They're not quite as on point as they were in the lord and miller theatrical lego film which is admittedly a hybrid. I mean. that's those movies are pretty funny but set your expectations. In terms of the joke hit rate. I would say. This is less the lego movie and more the lego. Knin juggle movie okay. You're somewhere in there. Very ratio of lego movies. But here's the thing. This thing does not overstay its welcome forty four minutes in and out. It's amazing it's like exactly as long as it needs to be. Yeah and some of the turns are really great like oh. I really wasn't expecting that even though again. Nothing wilder out of the ordinary is happening. But as you get into these characters and the different ages of these characters there's even a pairing we see an age. We've never seen them at on screen. That really tickled me. I was like oh man. I think that's sort of the joy of these. Lego movies is they can take you to places you would normally go. Did you enjoy the way. They blended some of those original elements into this well. I mean let's talk you. And i let's pivot for a second to the nineteen seventy eight star wars holiday special that special in nineteen seventy eight special was a cash. Grab that neither george lucas. Any people had much to do with and who boy it shows It was astonishingly two hours law. And it crawls i mean it has very old school. Cbs variety show vibe even before harvey korman shows up in art. Carney i was this many years old. Well when i learned that bruce vallance was a co writer and it was like oh of course the universe make. Some sense again doesn't okay. So here's the thing about that. The main casta star was was contractually obligated to appear and mark. Hamill and carrie fisher did so with gusto. Carrie fisher gets a song at the end Harrison ford did so with whatever. The opposite of gusto is There's a lot of wookey grunts in his thing. Too many wookey grunts there l. at different pitches because they're different age characters but it has a place in history because it introduced the character of boba fett in this very freaky cartoon Let's go through the plot. You and i broke quick is there. There is believe it or not. There's connective tissue. Let's call it that Chewy wants to go home to his family on cacique. Although i think there's an imperial officer who calls it zook because the empires famously racist and he wants to go home to celebrate life day. This is where we learn. He's got a wife. He's got a pervious dad and he's got a kid. The kid's name is lumpy. The dad's name is h. e. because apparently we named rookies after skin conditions. That's the thing we're doing. We see chu is home. Any lives inside this very bad matte painting of a house in the trees little. There's at home entertainment system. let's talk about. Let's talk about what that home. Entertainment system plays just freaky circus performance. That is like cirque du soleil meet studio fifty four meets hibbing mitzpe. I was like why are we doing pippen. In spain. Ten minutes it goes off at eight but if you hang in there you get a b arthur musical number where she plays the proprietors of the most eisley cantina She gets a number. That's really just stores. Cantina songs slowed down way way down to turn it into this. It's like a coupon number. It's like a german beer hall thing that turns out to be pretty good because it's be arthur and she's a pro just one more round homework friend. Can you just one more song salon. The way she makes this song anything is morale like the woman is talented. Because she the lines they give her the things they asked her to do. Our beyond ridiculous and boring and she imbues so much life and character. It's very like old west saloon broadway number. Yes the character. She's closing down her shop for the night shows a little bit of the danger outside of the cantina but mostly it's just about who is this woman and what is a relationship to her patriots right. She made that. That's not in the script. She made it into that. And i like instantly. I should know more about this character. What does she do what happens to her when the empire does their full invasion. I really enjoy this number. And i should not have. They did not earn this. Yeah yeah same same. Same it was like such a reward for slogging through so much rookie grunts but it was broadcast one. And only one time november seventy eight. Lucas ordered it Wiped from the archives like me. No it's gone but of course it started appearing on bootlegs at cons which made their way online and you can now find it online I won't tell you how. But i'll hint. Don't start looking on me too but for thing. That has been so disavowed. So much of this new special dna is right there. We get cameos from jewish family. The whole concept of life day comes from this seventieth special. So i mean what what do you think about. How much reclaiming a thing. That was so disdained for so long. Say this is the beauty of being a star wars fan. We will take anything you give us. We don't care how trash it is and we will make it into something. I've been hearing about the sars christmas special for years. Like it's a thing of lord if you're a young star wars fan if probably heard before like oh it was awful and every such a disappointment after because this comes out after a new hope which basically means. It's leaving you with like a new hope is in my opinion. The third greatest of the original trilogy like classic. It's gotta move but it's kinda slow and spaces But if your kid around this time it's like the best thing ever and so then you find out like you can just watch tv. You don't have to go back to a theater. Remember kids this is before streaming. This is before video stores really clinging to whatever kind of star wars. You can get your hands on kids. I tell you it's so it's so bad. But i understand the desire to be like. There's something in this yet there's like boba. Fett is cool and a traitor and like families and alec. His fighting for the war becomes something completely different before two buddies on the road but now he's doing it to defend his family. Enriches the universe of star wars fans. This is all we crave. Please build out bill in glorious universe. We have and so i understand and i'm like i think there's something even the faults of star wars you have to love all of it. It's a prerequisite to being a fan to this day and age like you have to love every part of it. I mean. I really thought this was going to be more of a riff on the original. Seventy it's our special items going to be a full throated reclaiming of it. I was hoping for a lego bea. Arthur who don't get it but we get. I agree with you is very very cute so we wanna know what you think about. The lego stores holiday special find us at facebook dot com slash p. c. h. h on twitter and pch brings us to the end of our show dwell. Thanks ringier may the force be with you and and of course. Thank you for listening to pop. Culture happy are from npr. We will see tomorrow since the nineteen eighties. Hip hop and america's prisons have grown side by side. We've only investigate disconnection to see how lifts and holds us down hip hop is talking about what we live trying to live. 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Episode 707: So, You Want to Meet a Big Name?

The Official BNI Podcast

10:58 min | 4 months ago

Episode 707: So, You Want to Meet a Big Name?

"Episode number seven hundred seven. So you want to meet a big name. You're listening to the official an eye podcast with bni founder and chief visionary officer dr ivan meisner stay tuned for networking and referral marketing. Tips from the man. Who's been called the father of modern networking along with suggestions and insights into getting the most from your membership in the world's largest networking being. Hello everybody and welcome back to the official bni guest. I'm priscilla rice. And i'm coming to you from live oak recording studio in berkeley california. And i'm joined on the phone today by the founder and chief visionary officer be an eye doctor live meisner. Hello ivan how are you and where are you. I am online this week with the us national conference so it's always a blast doing the conferences. We've been doing them for decades now so great good week. So what's this topic about. So i had someone recently asked me a question. He said Let's say that you ivan go back thirty years and think about where you were early in your career if you didn't know someone personally and you really admired them and wanted to take a shot at reaching. How would you do that. I thought that was an interesting question. Yeah and so. Here's my answer. Here's the short answer that i'll give you the long answer. The short answer is i would not reach out to them directly. Because you know they're a big name they're not gonna they probably not going to take your call or your email so i would find someone who knows that person and i'd get an introduction and that's exactly how i met harvey mackay years ago. Who is the author of swim with the sharks without being eaten alive. Met him back in the nineteen ninety s and. I really think they're getting an introduction from trusted third party. Smooth the path to meeting someone especially if that someone is well known or very successful one. Harvey was way more well known and i was back in the nineties and and be very very successful. You know in in the nineties. My business was still small. I hadn't written any bestselling books. So very few people knew anything about being an ira who i was. I wanted to meet harvey and ask him if he would contribute a piece to a book that i was working on at the time and he'd written about networking. I thought he'd make a good contributor to the book. The problem was that would no name recognition. I couldn't get past his assistant. No matter how many times i tried. And man i tried. I tried multiple times and just couldn't get past the assistant it took. It took the better part of the year but one day i was. I was in another state in the. Us i was. It was part of a book tour. I was doing for one of my first books and be member in. That city asked the local director if he could pick me up at the airport and take me to my hotel and i told the director. I'd love to meet the member personally. We spent some time on the drive and he asked me a lot of questions about macbook and asked me questions about being. I came to the event that i did at week. And he asked if. I'd like a ride back to the airport the next day. And i said sure and on the ride back we continued our previous conversation as we got closer to the airport. He thanked me for all the suggestions had given him on how to build a powerful personal network and then he asked me he asked the magic words. That i always say people should use Is there anything i can do for you. What can i do for you. Well as i said earlier i had been trying to get through to harvey mccain. And i had asked people and ask people. They knew harvey so far. I really couldn't find anyone. So i thought what the heck i'll i'll ask him. You know i've been trying to connect with harvey mccain. I hadn't had any luck. Just can't get past his assistant. She wouldn't happen to know someone that knows. Harvey would you. And i swear to you. He says sure. I know is assistant really well in fact i have her mobile number. Wow and i'm like really. How do you have a number. And i was absolutely dumbfounded. Absolutely dumbfounded i asked him. How do you know her. He then went on to explain that he always volunteers to drive visiting authorized law from the airport. Because it's a great way to get them in a car ran our and learn about them and learn from them and that's why he volunteered to drive me and he told me that he'd talked her many times when he agreed to dr harvey From the airport the previous year and he asked me why. I wanted to connect with harvey. In other words he wanted to quote. You wanted to qualify me before he passed on yes trusted contact and i told him told him that. I wanted to ask carvey if you'd be willing to contribute to. A book is writing called masters of networking. And i said harvey had written a book on the topic of networking. And he'd be such a great contributor. I really wanted him in the book. The driver said he'd be happy reach out harvest. Explain what i'm doing and ask her to contact me. Guess who called the next week. The the assistant. No that's a call me directly. We agree conversation obviously. This member not only made the connection but explained it thoroughly y. I was trying to get through so the assistant didn't even reach out to me. That was good enough. She trusted him enough to pass. On the information to harvey and harvey contacted me directly. Harvey is an icon in the business world and i was really honored to talk to him. It was a fantastic conversation. I learned that he he absolutely walks the talk when it comes to networking. He was masterful in getting to learn about me about the book. I was doing in fact. He agreed to provide a contribution to the book. I really got to know harvey better over the years. He spoke at one of our conventions. And i had a chance to talk to them on on many other occasions. Some people may think that it will happen. Just because i asked but i would say that's only part of the story. Yeah i asked. But i asked people who i knew and who i believe trusted me more importantly they knew i wouldn't betray that trust by doing something other than what i said. My intended purpose was and that's really important. People don't want to give a referral to someone that just wants to sell something to an important contact. They have much contact. Of course is asking for that kind of connection. So that's the longer the answer. If i were to go back thirty years and think about where i was Early on in my career. And i wanted to meet someone. I really admired out. I do that it's easy. I'd ask people who trust me for the referral and this gentleman trusted me. He knew of my work for many years he was being member. It it worked for me. And i i still think it works for me today and i would submit to everyone listening to this dinner to work for you as well. If you've got a story similar to that where you had a good relationship with someone a good professional relationship and then you made the ask and then you've got the contact you we're looking for. I'd love read it to share it here on the podcast and of course you're always welcome to leave comments. I read every comment. That is posted up here tonight. S well that's it for today. Priscilla any any thoughts. We've got a little time any thoughts. I love that story such a great story. And i just wanted to add to it a little bit. You know how you always talk about it. That your dog with a bone. Well this is a perfect example of that because you had this desire to meet this person and you just asked and asked and asked you that like you said. It wasn't the only reason that it worked. But you didn't give up. Yeah and i think the key here is that. I asked people who felt trusted me who i felt. I was a credibility if you go visibility credibility profitability. I believe that the people i was asking i was at credibility with and many times. They were be members and even though they didn't know me necessarily personally they knew of my reputation. They knew who i was and they trusted me. And that's the key because it you know the old you know the old saying i know we did a podcast on this priscilla. It never hurts to ask. Yeah well that's wrong it does hurt. Ask if you ask. If there's no relationship no trust then it actually. It hurts a the relationship so there has to be a level of trust to when you have that level of trust then what you just described is run out of money. You gotta ask. Ask and ask and ask people who you believe. Trust you because you just never know who someone knows when he told me. Oh i've got her. you know. yeah i know her. Got her mobile phone number. I was i loved his british expression. I was gobsmacked what really and makes so much sense that he would know her because of his his volunteering for for all these authors so that was really great it was and you know he obviously developed a relationship with her because you know she trusted him enough yeah and harvey of course met him and you know knew of him and so. They trusted him enough that they were like. Oh yeah we don't even you don't even have to talk to the assistant which is harvey korman and and again i was gobsmacked. Because you know there's harvey mccann of perfect. I love that that's today priscilla. Thank you so much okay. Thank you so much ivan. Well that's it for this week. But i wanna tell you that we have a new sponsor for our podcast and it is meisner audio programs dot com. These audio programs will provide you with the tools and the inspiration to powerfully. Enhance your being. I experience and help you boost your business so whether you are a new or a season member these audio programs will help you unlock the power of networking check out the great material available to you at meisner audio programs dot com and use the promo code ivan fifty for fifty percent off of all audio programs and all of the proceeds go to the foundation. Thank you so much for listening this is priscilla rice and we look forward to having you join us again next week for another exciting episode of the official deny pie.

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SYSK Selects: The Star Wars Holiday Special of 1978

Stuff You Should Know

58:05 min | 1 year ago

SYSK Selects: The Star Wars Holiday Special of 1978

"Stuffy show is presented by Subaru and the Subaru Love Promise. A commitment made by Subaru retailers to do right by the communities in which we all live and and work Subaru's partnership with the leukemia and Lymphoma Society to deliver messages of hope has spread to more than seven hundred hospitals. Nationwide to to learn more about how Subaru gives back visit Subaru Dot com slash love Dash promise that's sub a are you dot com slash. Love Dash Cash Promise. Hey kids he sure and check out. Santa cast the new hilarious holiday podcast with Santa the most wonderful time of year but that can be the toughest time of the year for Santa Claus and this year of feels different. Santa Feels Olympia out of the loop like he's missing something so go straight to the source and starts calling well you the kids from all around the world to reconnect and find out what you really want out of this holiday season and why to listen to San a cast on the iheartradio APP on Apple. PODCASTS were wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone it's me Josh in. It's that time of year again. It's time for our annual Steffi should know selects release of how the Star Wars Christmas special worked I hope that by now this is a tried and true. American nee world tradition Prior to Christmas that everyone will stop and bask in the glory of the Star Wars Christmas special technically are episode on on the Star Wars Christmas special. I hope you enjoy it and happy holidays. Welcome stuff you should know. Production of I heart radio have stuff works. Pay An awesome to the PODCAST. I'm I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry Jerome Rolling Hills the wookey mother. Yeah Molla Wife O.. N. mother sure to backers bombers with them to let yes. She was not about to appear in that she went out the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say We should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah Yeah today is December Seventeenth I have my opening night tickets. Do you really sure. Wow you know I inner you wouldn't do it. Yeah I will definitely go see it in the theater but Why won't be there opening night? Sure I've gotten really adept at like ignoring spoilers. People talking about all like so I can. I could conceivably see this movie a month after it comes out in and still going fresh. I'm an ostrich. Yeah you black yourself out. Yeah you go dark. I think we still go to sleep. Face you go to the dark side been there a while now We'll happy star wars day though. I'm sure that I think this pairs nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes us we already missed life day though so happy. Belated like they are. They celebrating it this year November seventeenth. Yeah but it's every three years Arcane yeah then job okay. So it's every three years started in nineteen seventy eight. Let's do the math shall we. Quick Math break believe that two thousand fourteen was the last life day we just missed and then again in two thousand seventeen nineteen okay so twenty seventeen will celebrate like they will put on our red robes are also long straight ironed wigs. Sure and we'll celebrate life day the way it was meant to. Yes and if you have no idea what we're talking about we are talking about life day which is a celebration That wookey the Star Wars Universe have every three years. Yeah it's like their Christmas. Yeah they celebrate Hanukkah kwanzaa supposedly sorta like Earth Day. Two they celebrate the diversity of their ecosystem and also remembrance of the dead and they also give gifts. They're like the fins basically. Yeah it's It's a very interesting part. Part of the Star Wars Canon. It is and it's almost entirely made up dashed off. You could possibly say by George Lucas in the seventies yeah and it's the basis of what has become derided as like one of the worst things that ever happened to the Star Wars Galaxy. Well not only that one of the worst things ever aired on television. Yeah we just galaxy It I that sounds like hyperbole I come on. It's because it was star our word we had high expectations. But it's really that bad. Yeah the people who say that haven't seen even second of it. Yeah Yeah however I watched it When I was a kid uh-huh Then again this week yeah and you watched it twice this week. Yeah I watched it last night and this morning something about it. It's mesmerizing. It really is. It's one of those things. Start watching it and you WANNA turn it off but you want to see just how absurd it can get almost yeah and it starts absurd. Heard it stays absurd in the middle. It's increasingly more absurd. It gets a little less absurd. Finishes Super Absurd. Yeah it's just a train wreck in every single all sense of the word tons of bottom. It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate. How bad this is? Yeah and some people you know in researching this you read about it. You read descriptions options of these things and it. It just can't possibly be gotten across until you see it so luckily as we will see you can go onto youtube and watch it and you may even enjoy this episode more. If you pause go spend two hours watching this thing. Yeah and then come back and laugh along with yeah there's a great Over over the years there have been many segments of it on youtube from badly dubbed. VHS tapes yeah but There's one really pretty good version of it in full brought to you by W. H. I. O.. Dayton Ohio channel seven Ohio because that flashes up on the screen periodically. Yeah Man It is high a quality it looks good now has basically be the copy that the actual affiliate broadcast. Yeah it's like that quality compared to the other stuff floating around in Youtube it's clearly recorded on a nineteen seventy-eight VCR. Yeah really expensive very expensive. I did some calculating on West Egg. Okay so the average average VCR went for about a thousand dollars brand new two thousand dollars in nineteen seventy eight money so there are about thirty eight hundred dollars in two thousand fourteen money crazy. Luckily luckily there were some rich people out there recording this stuff and the wealthy have saved us all again yet again as they always to. Yes we need to shot out some articles that we use for this great a great article in Vanity Fair called the Han Solo Comedy Hour. Exclamation Point yes. I Frank Di Giacomo now and then. There's The star. Wars holiday special was the worst thing on television. Ever by someone we kind of know. Alex Pasternak for motherboard yeah which is Not Wired by vice gas we wrote a little bit for Mother Board back then and we had a call with our like we're like motherboard vets. Yeah basically and that wasn't there one more. There was another one that I don't know who wrote this one. Chuck Yeah it's the titles. The Star Wars Holiday Special George. Lucas wants to smash every copy of with sledgehammer. which was a famous quote Supposedly the convention by Lucas. Yes which is not correct. He didn't ever I say that. No okay that that sound like something that people made up. Yes but if you go on the Internet you will quickly believe that. He did apparently didn't so we felt that way. Though it clearly you know because he did appear on robot chicken and I think two thousand five on the therapist couch talking about how much all right. So let's set the background background. Shall we shall we go back to nineteen seventy seven. Yes summer getting the old way back machine Hara. Let's do it. It's all right here. We are there's waterson. Yeah I'm just the little six year old excited about Star Wars I am. I've just turn one. Yes what's up yet. I please forgive me if I urinate myself no problem So what has happened is star. Wars has become a you just you hit seemingly out of nowhere yeah Establishing George. Lucas is one of the brilliant young minds and filmmaking. Even though it wasn't his first movie it was his first. Huge huge breakout hit. Oh Yeah for sure I mean talk about a breakout hit like no one had ever seen anything like it before. No two thousand one come out in the the late sixties. Yeah but it wasn't. It still is an accessible. The all audiences cerebral film. Yeah it's not an adventure movie this says yes this is like basically swashbuckling on the screen but You know in a galaxy far far away star wars just changed everything and it came on just like a hammer yes new hope by the way. Yes we're going to get stuff wrong nerds. Yes just go ahead and get your little fingers ready to email us like if it wasn't driven home that I'm not nerd by the fact that I don't have opening night tickets or any tickets yet. Give me a break and by proxy chuck to okay. Thank you so It's it's hard to stay. How Great Star Wars was in? Everyone's mind right. Bill Murray came out with that lounge singer star. Wars thing. Yeah it was everywhere. You're and if you if you just listen to the lyrics of it he's really. It's just bill. Murray singing about how much star wars is awesome. Yeah right yeah. So by the following in year George Lucas was. He wanted to figure out a way to keep audiences just engaged with the whole star wars franchise that he was just is starting to build but he knew the empire strikes back was a couple more years out so He I think he was approached by some TV executives. Who said have you considered doing some sort of Stevie special? They're all the rage right now. We have We have a graphic. That's really awesome that we set aside just for for TV specials here at CBS. Why don't you let us? Let's get together and do a star wars special. That's right producers Gary Smith in Dwight Hemion Were working over. CBS and they said this is a great way to keep the spirit alive. While you're making your other movie maybe move some more toys you have which George Lucas got. All the toys. Sure so it was right before thanksgiving. And he's there'd be a lot of people watching TV Pre holiday season our guest in the holiday. This season will the weekend before Thanksgiving. It's like everybody shopping sitting around family like waiting to actually do stuff. That's right perfect time to broadcast something on TV. So Lucas. Who says all right? Let's do this I don't have a ton of time. But how about this. I'll get a story together. And then you can go hire a Whiz Bang team. Some of a veteran writers producers and directors whatever genre you think is appropriate words that will haunt George Lucas to his grave. Yes so Lucas said here's my idea. I want it to be based On wookey and I want it to take place on their home planet of Kitzak or rookie planet see is that he say Kazakh. That's how it's pronounced in the episode. The holiday special but it's also pronounced different ways other times times. I would have pronounced catchy. E spell it Ska- S. H. Y. Y. K.. which I mean I guess that sounds like at you? Buck is planning it. Sure Also called g five six twenty three. We'll keep playing at sea or dion is a mid Rim planet right so the whole reason. Apparently that George Lucas was interested in featuring the rookies was it is what we in show business call low hanging fruit. The reason why it was low hanging fruit was because they had just tablist the different scenes that would make the cut for empire strikes back. And what how did you pronounce it again. Kazakh Kazak doc had not made the cut Even prior to this apparently for a new hope George. Lucas had whipped up a forty page. What's known as the Wookey Bible? It's like a forty page supplement. That's all about Kazakh. And Bookies and Chewbacca and his family and everything about Wookey Dome right that's right so he's like I've got this thing already established. I love bookies They didn't make the cut. I'm a little sad about that. They're not gonNA Kazuki is not going to show up in empire strikes back back. Let's let's build the entire special around wookey is it's basically the one demand me George. Lucas has yeah. That's it I'll be totally hands off from this disappoint on. He totally wasn't it was actually this experience that apparently taught him to say hands on person that he is famous for being this Christmas special. Absolutely he he was burned and Iron Grip after that on everything so Here's some some of the folks behind. Ah Bruce vallance famous TV writer. You've probably seen him on Hollywood squares. Wasn't he suspected of being Thomas Pinch tone for awhile or was Thomas Pinch shown on Hollywood squares. have no idea. I maybe confabulation some stuff confounding. Yeah there's some kind of some sort going it sounds like it. Yeah Yeah so Vallance was hired as a writer. A guy named Linney rips was hired as a writer who has some great quotes in that Vanity Fair article. He does His first quote was we were really excited. Because this is star wars. How could it lose your famous? Last words Who else was hired? There was a a husband and wife team The welches yeah. Who are the parents of of folk singer? Gillian Welch I'm a big fan of and I had no idea that her parents they were producer slash songwriters of the day. They were big on the variety. Show scene. which would turn out to be a really key? Dot Cog in this soul experience. So I feel like right about here. Jerry should insert a needle coming off of a record. Okay thanks Sherry so who chuck you just said Singer songwriters. Yeah what would that have to do with Star Wars. Yeah well actually in this Star Wars holiday special for those you. We hadn't seen it. There are musical numbers. They decided from the outset that there should musical numbers and the reason that they decided that there should be musical. Numbers is because the people people who sold George Lucas and at the time it was Star the Star Wars Corporation was what it was called On the idea of doing this. TV special was that AH everyone would love a variety show. Yeah it was a seventies great idea. Let's do a variety show the problem. Was this apparently George Lucas. Tuten watch enough. TV Any also overly trusted people who talk to him. Because by Nineteen seventy-eight yes variety shows that dominated television for over ten years. But it had come to an end it was getting stale. Yeah we're talking. Carol Burnett show favorite had been cancelled after eleven sees yet Big Red flags on audience share had just had it's last season yeah I mean what else like he hall was still going on. Probably still on solid solid golden yet to come on and take up the mantle that that wasn't a variety show lose a little bit and there's talking in between the songs. Yeah remember the Mandrell sister the show. I never watched that one country chic thing that has yeah. It was a big deal. It's kind of happening again. I think oh because because of that dude. The Guy who won all the awards I don't know he's like he's he came along like actually country. His Dad's like a coal minor for real from Kentucky Humane. Chris says something Yeah Yeah. He's good he's come along and been like what are you guys do well. There's a revival in like good country music again. That's that's great like in the tradition of Merle haggard and cash and I guess is probably where the country she came from because there was actually good country going on Johnny cash variety. Show did he really. Oh Yeah I knew. They did like a Sunday singing thing like out in Virginia. Yeah he had his own variety shows actually pretty good. There's some really great performances. Do you know how many nurses are the key so sorry all right so the variety show is is dying sort of and so they figure what a great time to take the biggest movie property on the planet and Wedge it into the variety show Milieu wages the right word. I think maybe Nestle NESTL IT in there. Yeah and then start hitting it. With the blunt edge of an axe until it smashes into that crevice in. Oh that's right because this time I'm on fantasy island had just started More Committee was about to change things. Charlie's angels getting huge basically television as we knew you it from nineteen eighty two whenever the real world came along. Yeah just escape is television. What all it was was starting and it was the hip new thing so so basically if they had turned Han Solo and Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker into? Maybe you know sexy detectives. It might have gone over even better but they went the the other way they decided to latch onto this extraordinarily stale Genera of television and they hired the best in the business. Yeah like there was there there is there was a quote from I. Think Lenny rips who was saying like we had literally a Dream Team a variety show dream team and everybody was good but right there were probably no bad welders on the titanic was a great quote. Yeah The guy. They hired to direct. It initially was a dude named David at Kamba and he had made his name name For a welcome to the fillmore east. It was a concert. Documentary with Van. Morrison Van Morrison and the birds in nineteen seventy one and he actually was at. USC Film the school the same time as Lucas. Even though he didn't know each other and he only ended up directing about three segments of the thing before he quit before he walked off. Some say he was actually let go But we'll get to him in a minute. Who replaced him? Okay as as we get along down this gross road. Well let's let's take a little break. I'm overly excited okay Hey Friends we WANNA talk to you about the future of phone service because it is here and it's called visible Yup for forty bucks a month all in you get unlimited data messages and minutes. I'm Verizon's four G. Lt Network and visible doesn't do annual contracts they they also don't do shady hidden fees or foot long phone bills either when they say forty bucks a month. They mean forty bucks a month yeah when they say unlimited data that means unlimited data data. They also don't have physical phone stores. 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They were big overnight because of star wars for sure but they weren't to the adoring public sure back studio. They can still be bossed around. And this is the the result of it and you can tell also Just from watching the actual special it like Harrison. Ford is not happy to be there at any point though. No Princess Leia is clearly on drugs was she on drugs. This point she if you watch it. She's she's on drugs especially the ending scene. Mark Hamill was like he's happy to be there. Actually he was fine but apparently he said no. I'm not doing a musical number. Yeah and if you watches part wedging a musical number in there would have been even more painful But they they everybody who was part of the actual star wars franchise. That wasn't wearing like a full body costume was like I really wish I wasn't here and you can tell. Oh Yeah in fact in the opening credit sequence winced. They're showing the picture. The you know the faces of the people and You see Harrison Ford as if he's flying the Millennium Falcon and you can. You can just hear the guy. I'll screen going now. I look at the camera and just give a nod. Just look at the camera and give a nod any finally you can tell. He's pissed off and he looks up at the camera. And just sort of smirks and points at the camera like okay yeah. I'm looking at the camera and then goes back to what he's doing. Yeah it's pretty awesome. I felt bad for him. So early. On volunteer others. Did you feel bad for him. Really I mean like come on it's Harrison Ford is Hans Solo. He has to go do this for like five days. Yeah I felt terrible for. I think it's hilarious that they had to do this. Especially now well early on land and others knew that they may be in trouble because They decided not to subtitle any of the wookey dialogue right and they literally started after a brief opening scene. Setting it up. Here's the basic plot is Han. Solo is trying to get Chewbacca back to Kazakh in time for Life Day so we can celebrate with his family. That's the basis of the entire. SEC basis the entire two hours they encounter a space battle title and they are delayed and the next two hours are kind of what's going on while the delay is happening back on Kazaa back on his. Because you hear like okay yeah well Hans. Solo and CHEWBACCA. Fading the Imperial Guard and all that stuff for two hours. I would watch that I would too. Yeah that's not what they show killing time I'm at the wookey household. That is what they show. Yeah that's what they do. It's people hanging out waiting for Chewbacca worrying about him yeah and then killing time while they wait for him to come back literally so And so hold on until you say there's a setup right yeah that's the initial setup and then chuck that's followed followed by this is followed by literally ten minutes ten solid minutes of incomprehensible wookey speak. So let's let's join it for a second. Yeah let's all enjoy it. Aw uh-huh and again you said ten minutes and you're not exaggerating you're not being hyperbolic can time it. It's ten minutes of walkies talking to each other with no subtitles. Fortunately really I couldn't follow it at first. I didn't even know who it was. I thought it was might have been Chewbacca mom and dad. Oh yeah the little brother Sir. You and I don't find out until later when Mark Hamil shows up via a skype call and says he really explains everything that had just happened. Like your Chewbacca. His father itchy. Your two buck is son. lumpy lumpy. And you're to his wife. Oh Malla yet thank you so before for everybody starts like freaking out. We know that that's actually their nicknames. Their real names are his father is A ticha Cook Chick Cook. It's really hard to pronounce. Melodic Buck is his wife and his son is lump or up but as named by Lucas. But yeah yeah but Lucas also named him lumpy Itchy Malla. So they're all back there wringing their hands trying to figure out ways to pass the time Until they get word from CHEWBACCA. That he's made it to What is it? Kachuck is a Kazakh Catch up ketchup or cats up if your fancy But CHEWBACCA is having trouble getting back to cook because there's because there's a a blockade by the empire and they're looking for rebels specifically Chewbacca who I didn't realize this. He's the most famous rookie of all. Did you know that yeah. Yeah of course. I didn't know that well I mean he's only one. That really appears in the movies. I mean we're seeing like you know these people's view of Journa- versus I. What about back on Kazakh? Yes it might have just been a fly by night wookey right. Yeah but not the case very famous rookie. Yeah and he really loved to so can his fame all right so he realizes there's a problem vallance he goes to Lucas in this. Like I don't know man. This is your world but it may may not be the strongest thing to do to set this in Wookey land and have all this incomprehensible dialogue and he says he was met with a glacial stare. Well he put it a little differently than that well. He said Glacial Stare. He did the Glacial Stereo. He was for this quote. He said these the people just talk and what sounds like fat people. Having an orgasm he goes if you want you can set up a tape recorder in my bedroom and do all the foliage for yeah. He's a large guy he So that's what got the glacial stare but vallance later said that from this there was one development meeting that Lucas attended and it was. Here's the Wookey Bible able to tell me what you got. And vallance said He. And the other writers and producers and director were just kinda throwing ideas and George Lucas would either either say like no. That doesn't work. Give them a glacial stare or say yes. That's exactly it. Yes let's make this variety show. Yeah and there was a little bit of Background there the the cantina players in the band had appeared on other variety shows at that point and I think it went over fairly well just as a a short segment unlike the Richard Pryor variety. Show or a Donny and Marie yet and there are a lot of variety shows the. But that's what I'm saying. That was television. That's what you did the Brady's The the the show had its course and then it became a variety show. It was just everybody. Everybody loves variety shows by. He'll do by this time though. Everybody was sick of variety shows right and so it really was terrible. Choice in fact they even hired a couple of writers from from Shields in your now which I hadn't heard of. Oh Yeah I watched it. It was This creepy this mime couple whether own variety show and and They figured these will be great because they are used to working without words right so in so there is a certain logic to the variety show. It's not just all over with the players. Just that variety shows were popular at the time. It somebody was like well look. You don't understand what they're saying so this is all going to be very physical so these people who who did what is it shields in your now. Yeah that's a perfect choice that that makes complete sense. You can see this whole this whole process of of leading up to the point where it was produced and shot and everything. Yeah a series of like. Oh we have this problem well. Here's a fix. Yeah but that leads to another problem. We'll we'll fix it with this. And no one stepping back and being like always done is create a series of problems that are going to come together and make one extraordinarily large problem that will become become legendary. No one did that. And so the whole thing was was made. That's right and that Eventually airs on November Seventeenth Nineteen Seventy Gate Friday at eight PM Eastern time. That's right and according to the Nielsen Ratings. It attracted thirteen million viewers List the second hour just in the US it aired in six or seven countries. Total Y- but no one cares about that I guess not around the Internet It it finished second to the love boat in the second arm. Sorry from eight to nine and in the next hour actually finished behind. Part Two of Mini Series About Pearl Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. And so yeah. It didn't even win their respective hours. No thirteen million. That's that's not bad thing is apparently if you look at the Nielsen. Ratings graph for the first hour. Yeah we know about that graph. It's okay yeah we do. And then after of a very important part which we'll talk about soon It just drops apps off at the end of the first hour and actually probably made the executives that CBS cringe for a number of reasons number. One is this special was originally supposed was to just be an hour but so many advertisers wanted to sign on. Yeah that they extended it to two hours and it shines through you can in totally tell that this thing was never supposed to. I think an hour might have been stretching it to tell you the truth. It's thirty minutes of content. Forty if you're generous I in our man in two hours it becomes one of the worst things was ever put on television all right. Well let's take a break and then we'll talk a little bit more about the actual well Even don't want to call it content but it is content in the strictest definition right after this Hey friends we want to talk to you about vanguard they're an investment company founded on the radical idea that putting people first is a better way to do business. Yeah Yeah and the supporting clients must be a holistic effort. One that considered success in human terms and client happy. 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That's IT and again. We almost barely see you. The rest is his family On Kazakh waiting for him to come back for Life Day yes so Some of the various things. They did They were guest ours. Those Harvey Korman from the Carol Burnett Show Okay one of my all time. Favorites him or capable Carol Burnett show both. He's great. Yeah he actually if you watch what. He's doing this comedy genius. Apparently he was like the only one onset that was bringing levity he was joking around and kind of kept spirits up good for him. That's what I say and three the three different parts yeah. He played Well I don't even know the names actually We could look up. He played a He played a Julia. Elliot Childlike Cook. There's an actual cooking segment along one a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca wife. makes Bantus due to kill some time to kill some time Waiting on her planet and in our living Yes Harvey Korman is in drag. As a four armed Julia child like TV Chef right and reminder is her name gourmet and that makes total sense. Yeah he also plays there's this one weird bit where to bacchus son tries to figure out a way to trick the stormtroopers. The empire had come in kind of because the blockade doc ID raided the house and other properties so he tries to trick them By rigging com link to speak in a different voice so he has to watch the instruction -struction manual he watches an instruction video which was Harvey Keitel as robot. Oh it would have been wonderful a big party subtitle. Otherwise they'd say oh man murders someone in the middle of the Harvey Korman and then the final Arro- he had was as a A bar patron in the cantina drinks has a hole in the top of his head like a volcano where he pours his drinks drinks and he he loves the author. Did we mention BEA. Arthur was be. Arthur is not only in a chuck. She sings a song she does. She is the Announced let's everyone she manages or maybe owns she's again. She's the owner. Yeah the what's the MAS MAS deaf. CANTINA No most of is a rapper. Rapper Oh yeah thank you mean Mosley Yes yes that Cantina. She's the owner be. Arthur is the owner the author of the Golden Girls. But in this case. Be Arthur Maude. Because you're as one of the people who articles we base this on points out. She's basically playing Maude as the owner of the Cantina and her song comes because they Basically say there's a lockdown so you got a call last call At your bar. So she calls last call by singing the song to everyone right again. We can't possibly have the script lead anywhere else but shoebox house while his family waits for it so all this takes place as part part of a public service announcement basically yeah broadcast by the empire. About how immoral life on Tattoo Wean is So let's go see what's going on in the Mas Eisley Cantina as being shut down for curfew. Yeah all right. This is incomprehensible but it. It goes on So they're in it. There's also art carney. Yes the honeymooners plainly the star of the whole thing really. He has the most lines. I would say the most comprehensible right. Yeah so he plays a A traitor Human Trader That is Recently been with Han Solo and chewy actually gets to Kazakh. Says they're on the way it's all good. Yeah a trader not trade tour yet traders in trades humans. For you know money no he. He sells goods. Yeah a traitor. His intrigued humans. Yeah he's in the human trade know is. Is it really yeah. He trades humans like he sells. Humans looked it up in the star. Wars Encyclopedia said that he was in the human trade. So in the Christmas special yeah. Apparently they sanitized as his background. Because he's basically just selling like gadgets and novelties and stuff like that to the rookies and the empire sure who were occupying area? Yes he comes. Bearing gifts Because he's a friend of his family. Yeah so he comes bearing gifts one of the gifts he gives. This is a sort of like a little digital INSERT TO A. Oh I guess you would call it a virtual reality hairdryer hairdryer like a beauty shop hairdryer. He gives it to GRANDPA itchy. GRANDPA ITCHY Sits under this hairdryer POPs in this Digital Cassette and it can only be described as softcore porn. Apparently the writers who were interviewed for this said that it was totally the intent to get what amounted to softcore porn. That would pass the censors. That's right so it's all you. I can't even say his INNUENDO. It's too obvious in overt for Innuendo. Instead it's just it's just it's just gross it's really gross. Diane Carroll yes she is A Vegas staple shows up and starts basically tantalizing GRANDPA who again this is chew. Bach is elderly father who now engages in some sort of well he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now and this is a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself. Well Yeah and she literally says to him like now I can see. You're really excited. Yeah it's pretty rough to watch. Yeah so then. You've got another musical number because also again he he shudders. Yeah it's really strange All right so there's also a I know it seems like we're jumping around but it's it's mind blowing like this is pretty much like blow for blow Actually I forgot earlier on in in the in the special There's one of my favorite sequences is when GRANDPA itchy goes over to lumpy. Basically sets up. Remember the the Hologram Chessboard. That they played in a new hope. Yeah basically kind of sets that up and says here does play this. He pushes the button. which is clearly nineteen seventies cassette recorder and another Like it's like a Cirque du Soleil ACID trip yeah Gymnasts routine happens in front of the kids and again this all. Just it's not like it shows a snippet. They showed the entire segments like five six six ten minutes long. Sure of all of these things so you would think okay. They've gone to this Hologram. Well a couple of times why not go to it again. Well they do they they do they kill more time while the Imperial Guard is ransacking. Their house Art Carney apparently I guess is trying to get one of the imperial guard yard the leader. I think the leaders who looks like somebody from space balls by the way very much so yeah And the writer of the Vanity Fair article by the way said This this is so incomprehensible the specialist. George Lucas didn't even have the Schwartz with the methods so anyway art carney's distracting this In imperial leader While they're ransacking the wookey is house. Chuck is House with a Hologram and this hologram instead of being an acrobat Rabat or Diane Carroll or any kind of porn or anything like that is Jefferson starship. They decide that they're going to play light the sky on fire a hunch apparently about UFO's it's a little music video basically it. It's a pretty. Yeah it's the predecessor to like Video killed the Radio Star. Yeah tell And again it is the whole lengthy song. Yeah the whole thing so every time that. Somebody's like we need to escape mentally mentally from what's going on here in our house Let's go into the video world. It's not just the and they don't cut back and forth. Now it's okay here's five minutes of Jefferson starship performing the song. Yeah and even the Jefferson starship guys Were like sort of a weird trip like we didn't get it but we did it right. They gave us some money. Yeah and some cocaine probably so we said Yeah Chuck I think though There yet another segment like this is actually widely regarded as the high point of the whole thing. Oh sure there is a cartoon actually. Yeah that Lumpy he watches. Yeah lumpy like the Imperial Guard is still ransacking. My House I think all entertain myself by watching a cartoon on my little I know what it was an IPAD and He watches this cartoon in. It's it's actually remarkable for a number of reasons. It's the best part of the whole special. Yeah generally agreed upon such right not just us and it introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time above ever makes an appearance in Star Wars universe. Yeah it's actually not a bad and you can't find it in the The one version. I told you to watch. They removed for copyright. But he didn't watch a separate version right. You can find it on its own. Yeah and it's It's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of the day like a he man or something sure even even though it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah but it does have apply that you can follow that makes sense as a star wars thing yeah and it introduces Boba Fett like you said. And it's actually not bad like Luke in our two in C.. Three the peo- yeah and the crash on a planet or something. Yeah and Han and she where you're in it the first time we see in Darth vader. It's the first time we see Boba Fett and that he is That he is just doing whatever he can do for money. Right like Luke Trust Him. I see through deals like you sure you should trust them this quick. Yeah and he's like Oh three. Po You you and your non dressing ways to and then it turns out. He's selling them out to the dark side. So it's basically Boba. Fett is an allegory for George. Lucas himself So the cartoon comes and goes and that was the thing that came at about the end of the first hour mark and after that everybody just turned off their television. Elvin says yeah. I don't remember. Did you watch this when it came out. I remember watching it but I don't remember much about it like if I made it through at all. I mean those 'cause I was seven and it was until ten so I'll probably make it through it all Plus your disturbed who knows. I just remember that what that's my brother. He might have a memory. This Obeidi does. I'm sure he met everybody afterward or something like that. You know has a picture while he was ten at that point to cynicism. Had you know become a thing in his life probably by then sure. Did that when cynicism kicks in to see Scott holding onto fourteen fifteen. Yeah maybe so so Chuck the whole thing finally only does in. And actually there's a guy is names Nathan ray-ban he writes over at the AV club. Great quote he basically said that one of the great redeeming values of this This special is that it does eventually end. Yeah you know. The first part of the code is I'm not convinced. The special wasn't ultimately written and directed by ascension bag of cocaine and like go read his his review of the Star Wars holiday special because he goes on to describe exactly what that must have been like development meeting where the bag cocaine McCain is pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's what it feels like but it doesn't and it ends even more. It takes this bazaar czar two hours and wraps it up and just a nice bizarre bow. Yes so what happens is eventually low. Should we spoiler alert eventually Han Solo and she we make it through the planet they park on the far side of the planet because they know the The the imperial forces are there and the exercise will do Not Good Yeah. So they have to hike over there they eventually make it back home. They find a storm. The storm troopers at their house. Right Their tree hut would wait by the paintings. Set this up. I don't think we mentioned I. Don't even call them matte paintings It looks like someone painted something on the wall and they just like put a camera Amer in front of it pretty much. Yeah so they get back and Chewbacca Hans. Solo hides around the corner to box steps in front of his son to protect them sure. Han Solo jumps out and the stormtrooper trips over a pile of logs and falls over the balcony and dies in holiday special so they wouldn't even on not only could he not shoot I with Griego but they Couldn't even have them like wrestle the stormtrooper and throw him off. He trips over a log log right in Hans. Solo has his hands thrown up. Like wasn't me in my opinion. Banana Peel but again. This is basically basically produced by Vaudevillians starring Vaudevillians. Why not have the one death take place from basically what amounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel? Exactly it's a perfect way to end so that's That guy basically represents the end of the imperial threat for the rest of Life Day. Yeah and We we then see life day being celebrated which is celebrated by lots of cookies assembling in what looks like a giant Ola Mills Portrait Media and all of her wearing red robes pastor. And I know up talking. And it's because my mind is still having trouble like wrapping around though yeah and then Princess Leia comes out with CPO Is Mark Hamill there. The whole gang's here okay. The whole gang's and then they all gather around to hear a great quote from Princess Leia which we will read Verbatim this holiday is yours ars but we all share with you. The hope that this day brings us closer to freedom into harmony and peace no matter how different we appear where all the same in our struggle Duggal against the powers of evil and darkness. I hope that this day will always be a day of joy and which we can reconfirm our dedication and courage and more than anything else is our love for one another. This is the promise of the tree of life q song right and we should also point out. The tree of life has never been mentioned this the idea of the and when you said Q.. Song by Q.. Song you mean. Princess Leia start singing. Yeah and apparently that was one one of the big contingencies on Carrie Fisher being off. She's going through a phase. She's like kind of like singing. Bruce vallance calls Joni Mitchell period. Yeah see somehow convinced Vince. Them to let her saying as Princess Leia and she does and again I've said that she looks like she's on drugs. This is the point where she really does look like she's on drugs. It's not just me other writers who've written reviews of this. It's really obvious that she possibly smoked a decent amount of pocket for it to shot. This shot this scene but she sings. Oh okay it's fine. It's just the fact that Princess lay is singing singing and actually Bruce vallance had a really great quote to. He says that She very much wanted to show this side of her talent. And there was general dismay because this was not what we wanted Princess Leia to be doing. Yeah she did it anyway. So the whole thing ends with her singing the song about life day which is set loosely to the John Williams Star Wars theme. Yeah so along the way. The director original director quit New Director Steve Binder was hired to finish the job and bring it in And he did over the original one million dollar budget of course always He did bring it in and At this point George Lucas had He was he was working on the empire strikes back. He didn't know what was going on. He wasn't around for the shoot. No it wasn't until the aired I think that he actually actually saw it yes and it was a travesty. Obviously you haven't noticed that by now critics hated it Star Wars fans really hated it. Everybody the people who are in hated it. Lucas it You've been Harvey Korman secretly. Hated even Harvey. Actually he loved it but Lucas Lucas has been asked over the years about it a lot. And he doesn't talk about it much But in two thousand and five and I don't buy this first second he says It was an interview. He he said special from nine hundred. Seventy eight really didn't have much to do with us. You know that part is true. I can't remember what network it was even on but It was the thing that they did. That's why there's no way he doesn't know that was CBS We kind of just let them do it. I believe that It was done by. I can't even remember who the group was but they were variety. alrighty TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a few of them We let them use the characters and stuff and that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do but you learn from those experiences. Yeah I think even the news some of the footage from the movie at the end it looks like some space like a highlight reel. Yeah the gang well and during the It looks like some of the. They had some insert shots of like imperial cruisers and tie fighters and stuff likes. Remember when When Chewbacca like gleaned back and puts his hands behind yeah yeah? That's in there. It's just a highlight reel from the movie saying like. Yeah you'll like this. Go see the movie well and also that means it doesn't match the look of the rest of it at all. Yeah that's true to sort of inserted tried the definitely tried And George Lucas totally full of it because in one thousand nine hundred seven he told Star log magazine that the Christmas special would be out on video cassette very soon yes and in two thousand seven two years after that quote you just read where he's like I don't even know what you're talking about basically He apparently Considered releasing the Christmas special is a bonus on the The DVD's of the first three right but did not did an apparently Carrie Fisher told Lucas that if you want me to do DVD Extras commentary commentary. Then I want a a clean original copy of the holiday special. Yes so why your head so I can play it parties. I want people to leave. It's pretty a great. It is so There is one of those clean. Copies is floating around out there so you can watch the Senate in its entirety. Some of it like the cartoon. Our tune was removed due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff but as is the case with the rest of the Internet you can just go find it elsewhere when piece it together. There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore. Yeah that are just fascinated. Yeah those are always fun. Gm ads where one of the guys who's in quality control is he says. Did you watch it. I don't think it's all that he goes We really care about these cars. And that's no jive man. GM and things. It's serious are they tried to be hip. Yeah is a pretty good stuff. Here's my final thought on it. I love it. It does not taint paint my star wars experience or my love for the franchise and I'm glad it is out there because it it's a it's a fun little stain. It shouldn't be taken too seriously. I think it adds to it actually could be an awful. Yeah and I don't know. Somehow that enriches the rest of it. I'm with you like Oh yeah I mean I watched it twice. I wouldn't watch it a second. I wouldn't have made it through the I I I let me take that back. I as a pro WPRO so it would have made it through the first time. I wouldn't watch the second time if I wasn't there wasn't something about it and I figured out. I think the thing that I like the most about it is lumpy to buck. His son son. Yeah play by an actress named Patty Maloney who frankly is hands down the best actor in the entire thing. She like her responses. Isn't everything is just awesome. I think of my favorite parts are While there's a great film scream guest trooper trips over the laws would would not have noticed that And then there's a part where all the wookey dialogue you can't understand but there's clearly one part where we're itchy and lumpy or happening having exchange where lumpy you can make it out. Goes I love you. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I noticed that but it's covered up but someone who is like we have to have at least just one exchange where you sort of know what they're saying or they were like. I think she said I love you. Should we have them Redo it. And then drags no. I want to go and check this one other thing that I figured out from watching this. It's it's not readily apparent. The whole thing is made all the more odd and that their situation after situation after situation Shen where we as normal audiences were trained to expect a laugh track. There's not a laugh track laugh track. Yeah it it might have been less bizarre yet. The fact that it's missing just makes your agitates the mind so this whole additional element that it is weird. I never the thought about it. There's just weird moments of silence. All throughout Carney's doing his thing and telling jokes. Yeah okay I agree with you. Chuck don't take things too seriously. Yeah I think that's the great lesson in this in the lesson of life it is and in two thousand seven Rift tracks mystery science theater. Three thousand then guys Mike Nelson Bill Corbett and Kevin Murphy Provided audio commentary for the full version of the special so Try and go grab that if you can't as well you can't. It's on their site because it's great. I think it's like eight bucks and those guys are awesome. And at least I think Corbett listens to us so hey Corbett you got anything else. No no I think we did this. There's some good stuff go read the Vanity Fair Article Han Solo Comedy Hour. There was a book called. How Star Wars conquered? The Universe has a very interesting chapter about this. That's where we found. It asserted that George. Lucas never said that he would smash this thing with a sledgehammer right And there's also an entire website dedicated to it star wars holiday special DOT COM and If you want to know more about the Star Wars holiday special the we have a ton the star wars stuff on how stuff works by the way. Yeah we have cool Sort of fun articles about the death star and lightsaber videos with the holly fry from stuff. you missed in history history class. who she knows her stuff? She does So you can just type star wars in the search bar house to force dot com and you'll bring up some stuff for you since I said search bar. It's time time for listener mail. Hey guys just finished listen to the Voinovich. Manuscript podcast founded super interesting especially the theories on its definition or origin origin. I Know Josh mentioned Chuck Zero being drug induced somewhat surprising or even unlikely given a language in the manuscript follows linguistic laws only founded in in the past one hundred years. 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The Star Wars Holiday Special (1978) | Steve Binder (with David Acomba)

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The Star Wars Holiday Special (1978) | Steve Binder (with David Acomba)

"Star Wars Holiday Special Welcome to around the world eighties movies. My name is Vince Leo. I'm the author of the Film Review. Website Webster Dot net. I've I check out over four thousand of my reviews anytime. Clip Stir Dot net is where to go. Q. W. I p. s. t. e. r. dot net. Why they're doing courage you to click the link to my other podcast. It's called the quit. Stir film review podcast where it covered brand new film out in the theaters. And you can check all that out at my website. Webster Dot net today. I'm going to be getting into the first part of a three part series. I just reviewed six seventy nine. I had an editor even know anymore. I reviewed a lot of films that were based off of. Tv shows for the last several episodes but the next trilogy is going to be TV films that are based on theatrical releases. So going from movies to TV instead of the other way around in this case but specifically one's done for the Star Wars Franchise and the first film I'm going to be getting into. This trilogy is actually not from the nineteen eighties. And it's not associated with the other two but I decided to throw it in here anyway because I already covered the star. Wars films in my first trilogy for this podcast from one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. It's these star holiday special yes made for TV CBS. In nineteen seventy eight. It is not rated probably would be rated G. suitable for all audiences. Although there is one risque part that is in this film that might challenge that? It's an hour thirty seven minutes if you watch it without the commercials. Two hours with commercials to cast includes Harvey Korman Art. Carney Patty Maloney and then names. You might recognize little bit better if you know star. Wars Mark Hamill Carrie Fisher Harrison Ford. Mickey Morton's in this film be Arthur Anthony Daniels of course C. Three Po. Diane Carroll Paul Gale James Earl Jones at Lisa's voice. In this Peter Mayhew Has Juba and Jefferson. Starship is in this as well. Steve Finder is the director. At least the credited director David Kumba was also a director before him screenplay credited Rod Warren. Bruce Avalanche Pat Proft Leonard Rips in Mitzi Welsh. Now the Star Wars holiday special was a two hour made for TV. Musical variety show not necessarily a movie although it is considered kind of a movie because it is a long form to our thing and it all kind of revolves around one story. It was aired on November seventeenth. Nineteen Seventy Eight. That was on. Cbs for it's November sweeps period. It preempted the Friday night. Primetime shows like the incredible hulk that was in its first season and the new adventures of wonder woman that was in its final season variety. Shows at the time they were hot on TV in the Nineteen Seventies. This effort would serve. They would hope anyway. As a ratings bonanza by you have the hottest cultural phenomenon of the previous year in front of as many eyeballs as the could get on a Friday night. Kids could stay up to watch. Tv older folks like variety shows so it seemed like it was going to be a hit and CBS wanted something to give them a huge leg up on their competition while Star Wars Creator George Lucas desired to help keep up the momentum of the hype to sell the initially unexpected but now heavily anticipated star wars merchandise coming out for Christmas. In nineteen seventy eight people would end up also staying amped for the next movie in the series. And if things worked out George Lucas might even be able to keep things going with a star wars TV spinoff series and that was the ultimate win win. Situation seem like a just could not miss at all the special was cultivated by its executive producers. Their names were Gary Smith and Dwight Hemion. They were a team known for their emmy. Winning variety show specials over the sixties and Seventies Twentieth Century Fox also produce this special allowing filming to be done at the Burbank Studios. They pay the Friday before the Thanksgiving holiday as the ideal target date. It was not only because it was network sweeps but it was also the best time to sell spots to advertisers toys. Many companies wanting to lock into Star Wars Mania. They wanted to get kids to big their parents for the merchandise. At Christmas and the toy company that was set to produce the Star Wars action figures. Kenner they put a lot of money into commercial placements for this special. Kenner even plan to create figures for Jewish family who figure prominently in this special but they ended up beginning next the show not to spoil it before it gets to talking about it a little bit more. It was ill received. That's really what most people know about it. Advertiser interest though was so strong before it was put out. This intended one hour shows only supposed to last an hour. It ended up getting padded out into a two hour movie. Complete with comical interludes and a self contained eleven minute cartoon that some people consider to be the best part of this special now the central plot of the Star Wars holiday special came from one of Lucas's early ideas before he even made star wars. But it wasn't idea he had for star wars in early drafts four star wars. Lucas ended up employing this framing device. It was supposed to be set on the wookey planet where the rookie mother ends up reading. A bedtime story to her son entitled Star Wars from a book on the shelf and that would result in the story that she reads being played out. In between and the idea for this framing device it ended up getting discarded from later scripts because Lucas team encountered a lot of difficulties in making the costume. Strictly for CHEWBACCA. They decided making costumes to trae a whole planet. Full of Wookey was going to overly complicate an already ambitious production so the ended up Nixon. That whole idea and just concentrate solely while on CHEWBACCA. Being the only wookey now for the holiday Special Lucas revived. That wicky planet idea into this new story would have a holiday tie in as a means to bring the rest of the main characters to appear. Lucas's original storylines centered more around you. Baca than what ends up being seen in the final product in the original script. Lucas had chewy comes home to see his family for the galactic celebration of Life Day. It was going to be hosted on the rookie home planet. This time the empire. They were wary of the celebration because they feared that it might unite the factions of the resistance and so they tried to find a way to shut it down. There's a galactic trader who visits the home of the rookies to sell the family some goods while to his son. Son's name is lumpy. It's a short nickname. Kind of like chewy. He ends up stowing away on the traders starship and he makes his way to the Cantina in Mosley that was featured in star. Wars and afterward Lumpy is set to return home on another starship bringing entertainment to the Life Day extravaganza however the empire manages to infiltrate the ship to stop the celebration and that causes eventually Lucan Laya to intervene to successfully get the ship to its destination in its early development phase. Lucas was involved with a variety of meetings. Trying to nail down the concept to the network crew. He even crafted a twenty five page booklet. That provided a lot of the back story of the Wookey Home World it included you. Baca and each member of his family once. He felt satisfied that this television crew knew what was expected. He ended up leaving the project and he wanted to focus attention on the script for Raiders of the lost Ark and especially his next feature in the original star wars trilogy the Empire Strikes Back and to help with the production Lucas allowed. Cbs to utilize unused footage from star wars as well as star wars costumes and props sound effects and music. And whatever other items that were associated with the nineteen seventy seven film that they needed and all of these ideas were handed to screenwriter. Leonard Rips Lenny. Rips FLESHED OUT. Lucas is story into the script trying to satisfy its intended one hour run time but from their producers. Can't admit see welsh. They began to alter the story they tried to minimize all of the time spent with you. Bach and his family and he did that. Because what keys did not speak. Any language that was intelligible to the viewing audience so trying to minimize whoopie dialogue was deemed to be best. They set up the wookey characters primarily in the beginning of the show and then the story could shift to cookies using their technology to try to talk to other characters that we knew from star wars and to entertain themselves by watching programming involving the celebrity talent that the brought on board. Now the story in the completed script. The one that you could see if you ended up watching the Star Wars holiday special. It involves to his family living in the giant tree house. The exterior of the tree house uses some early conceptual art that was made for Star Wars from Ralph Macquarie the planet as we know the rookie plant is called. Cacique but in the special it's either called wookey planet. See It's also referred to as Kazakh in the script and the promotional materials of the time the family trio includes Chaka's wife Mala his father itchy and his son lumpy. Chewbacca is returning to see his family for Life Day. Which is like a mix of Thanksgiving and Christmas on earth? If you view it through the late seventies new age prism of celebrating. Galactic peace and harmony however chewy is delayed by an imperial cruiser. That's in the vicinity. They're performing blockade. That keeps the Millennium Falcon from its destination and down on the wiki planet stem tubers are also invading homes and placing the locals under a strict curfew and all Jewish family can do to by the time is to use their technology to entertain themselves with cartoons and acrobats and sultry women fantasy and Jefferson airplane. I guess while they wait David Dicamba the first director for this film. He was a former fraternity brother for star. Wars publicity supervisor Charles Lippincott from his and also George Lucas his days at USC film school even though a combine. Lucas did not know each other. At that time he was brought in to direct. He directed The I t rock concert special for PBS called welcome to the Fillmore East and then he also directed an acclaimed nineteen seventy-three Canadian theatrical drama called slipstream but he really was not fully prepared with how to direct a variety show for television. He found himself well over his head on what to do. And he wanted new and untested talent to be brought on board. He was very ambitious. He commissioned melvina then Canada's largest animation house to deliver an animated portion for the Shell. He was also friends with several members of Nevada since their college days as well so very connected with the people that he knew from film school the special starts off in its first. Ten minutes really confusing audiences. We followed shoebox family. They're having full on conversations in the wookey language. No subtitles grunting and growling. And you know you've heard you baca. You know exactly what he sounds like. And it's basically these characters doing that for like ten minutes up to fifteen minutes. I guess and that language developed by Star Wars sound designer Ben Burtt and this really forced audiences at that time to infer the topics through the interpretation of the body language. And the tone of the growls and this embarrassingly nonsensical chunk of drama seems to go on forever. If you're watching this no doubt causing many who tuned in on that Friday night to end up tuning out and find something less aggravating to watch. Probably before the end of that sequence. The costumes for Chaka's family were done by then unknown Stan Winston very popular today filling in for Stuart Freeborn who designed the original. Chewbacca costume. Freeborn was unavailable because he was working on Superman. The movie at the time and Winston. Who had done pretty costume and makeup work on the Whiz did the best he could with the budget and the timeframe he was allotted. Now perhaps the best part of the holiday special alluded to it earlier although it doesn't really connected the rest of the story is that cartoon by Nevada entitled the Faithful Wookey. The cartoon marks the first appearance ever of Boba Fett albeit. He's kind of a chatty version than we would see in empire strikes back. The only part of the special that Lucas has deemed to this day to let the public continue to experience. It was a special feature on the two thousand Eleven Blu Ray release of the Star Wars Complete Saga although to access it and it's kind of an Easter Egg. You have to do a few things. You can look that up online if you happen to have that Box set this also was the first of several notable animated productions that Nevada would end up doing for Lucasfilm for the next decade including in the Mid Nineteen Eighties. They produced animated shows droids. Andy walks according to a Kamba. He said he tried to bring in the then unknown. Stand up comic Robin Williams for a bit role but the welches producers told the comma that he needed to bring in talent audiences were familiar with and they were comfortable seeing on television. Basically someone for older. Tv viewers who watched variety shows that might identify with them even though they may not follow star. Wars are really what's going on in these stand up comedy scene at the time. The Walsh's had more traditional music numbers that they wanted to be produced into this and they wanted to combat to work with the established. Tv talent that they were bringing aboard. Be Arthur Diane Carroll. A Combo was unfamiliar with a Multiple Camera. Placements that are used in television productions. He just wanted to be able to go in and zoom in with one camera and just capture it. All like a movie would hand-held and he was completely lost while shooting scenes in the most Eisley contain a with B Arthur. Playing the Sassy. Proprietor the CANTINA scene. Where b-be Arthur into belting out this cabaret style number called goodnight but not goodbye it features a lot of the creatures that we saw in similar scene done for star wars with a couple of new ones that were added by Rick. Baker there was a lion man and a baboon man in full. Makeup took several hours to apply. Most of the other Cantina. Denizens were big masks over their heads. That were kind of cumbersome due to the heat of the television lighting and that made it difficult to breathe with those heads on. There really was Harley away for getting oxygen. Some of the actors ended up squeezing their masks between takes in order to try to bring in some fresh air too brief to keep from passing out some actually did pass out Akaba. He was a true Blue Rock and Roll Guy. He felt much more at home shooting. Jefferson starship for their musical number Jefferson starship here without grace slick emerges lip synching to their next intended single called light the sky on fire they were transformed into this holographic projection from lumpy music box. Unfortunately because he was unaccustomed to how to work with special effects and the crew a combat grew frustrated and he ended up quitting after that sequence was shot and requested that his name not be used in the credits even if his footage ended up being used AKABA ended up getting replaced by Steve Binder. He was a professional associate of executive producer. Gary Smith and known for directing highly successful variety shows for television. Steve Binder was a professional through and through but he was not involved in the early discussions that they had with George Lucas and he really was not familiar with the Star. Wars backstory beyond. What some of the outlines were that. Lucas left behind. He just knew that this was a show that was already beyond its budget and the shooting schedule on. He needed to assure that it would come to a merciful and intact for television screenings now binders primary mission was to shoot the film actors from Star Wars. You needed plenty of begging and arm twisting to come aboard especially Harrison Ford who've really was reticent for appearing eventually consented to do it so long as there was no singing or dancing on his part meanwhile taking the opposite approach of Harrison Ford Carrie Fisher wanted to expand her repertoire in films and wanted people to see that she could sing. She said she would only do the special on the condition that she be allowed to seeing a song even if the character. Princess Leia was not known to be a stage talent. She wanted to do this and so carry Fischer is in this film. She loses a lot of that British inflation that she gave to her character for star wars in favor of this laid-back southern California delivery. That was probably much more in keeping with how she really sounds. Unfortunately for Carrie Fisher. She was given us on that. She personally despised had lyrics. Centering around life day. Mostly to the tune of the Star Wars Theme Music Fisher claims to have been drunk. Maybe more during her musical scene that might explain why she spends the entire song holding onto Chewbacca as she could not finish her number without stumbling otherwise this was Mark Hamill's first screen appearance after he had suffered a car accident that left him somewhat facially disfigured the. He had a lot of makeup on here. The makeup team worked overtime to try to cover up any scars including putting Mascara on Marquel. He kind of looked like a man who is just a Wig. And maybe some jewelry away from trying to appear like he's in drag both. Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher appear to teleconference with Molla at separate times to assure her that Han and chewy will bake to them soon and not making an appearance from the original cast core cast anyway. Is Kenny Baker? He would typically be controlling things from within. Rtd TO ARTESIA was in this film. He was kind of a remote control version of the DROID. That was used for the soul scene with Luke skywalker busy working on his x wing in the spaceship garage so because he had a remote control version they didn't ask any bigger to appear. None of the original cast members. Get more than five minutes of total screen time though in a role that was created so that there would be someone who could translate into English with the Wookey. Were saying to the imperial troops during some part of this film Art Carney. He's here playing a trader named San Dan who comes bearing gifts including the aforementioned VR smut machine that presents Diane Carroll as hot and heavy fantasy elements of this song. Dan Character were used later as the inspiration for Orlando Christian in the empire strikes back. Harvey Korman's in this film. He takes three separate roles. He plays a four armed. That's someone with four arms not with forearms though he has four arms Julia Child Esque TV. Chef named Gorman data who special dishes BENTHAM SURPRISE. He also has this glitch. Amore fiene doing a lengthy video instruction on how to build an electronic translator and I mean it seems to go on in full and he also plays cramming this hollow headed patron and Aquinas Cantina. Bea Arthur gets her scenes with them. I used to for some reason confuse Arthur in Harvey Korman when I was a little kid and I think I probably was very during that scene while they are woefully out of place in the Star Wars Universe. These actors do give their respective part. They're professional all I mean. They put out their best work. Here doing the best they can with almost nothing professional or not. I think nothing can really describe what I alluded to earlier. The worst scene of the film Diane Carol. She was cast here by the welches for this musical number title. This minute now she gets to entertain the adult males who are in the audience watching on the TV playing this imaginary seductress who is manifested from a questionably lurid virtual reality contraption called a mind evaporator in this virtual reality device taps into cheese deepest and perhaps most disturbing interest species fantasies. This shoebox dad here is watching a porno and the other families in the room with them which is kind of interesting. I guess this is actually not really pornographic. It's what censors would allow to pass for porn on this all ages networks special by the time. George Lucas checked in on the production again. Sometime later it was far too late to do anything about it. He found production so embarrassing that he made sure that win. It was aired. His name was removed from the story. Credits despite coming up with the seat of the idea early on after it showed on television. Lucas went to great lengths to make sure that it would never be seen again. Never allowing a rebroadcast on television and he still refuses to this day to release it on any form of home video now there are VHS bootleg copies that exist that were taped during that television showing from people who owned VCR's at the time those have cropped up for the curious over the years people used to trade those in various star wars groups. Mostly they were of low quality recordings when they first aired today though you can get the special relatively easily just do a search on popular video sharing platforms and you'll find it pretty easily. Although these are really rips of those VHS bootlegs so don't expect really high quality they're they're just watchable if you want to reminisce over what it was like to watch. Vhs tapes now. Although the production was lavish for television the attempt to score big with ratings ended up being a huge bust and that was mostly because a large percentage of the estimated thirteen million that tune-in brought out not too long after began. Probably because he couldn't understand rookies for the twelve minutes or whatever that the end up grunting at each other it lost out to its competition on. Abc of run of the mill episode of the love boat and and it was also beaten. Its second hour by the second part of a mini series on Pearl Harbor called Pearl the Star Wars holiday special ranked at the end of the whole season. It was the three hundred and forty sixth highest rated top. Primetime show that aired during that season really really low. It was lower than reruns of the Jeffersons. Happy Days Quincy. Emmy really hemorrhaged viewers to the point where they didn't even get to count them for being there beyond the first commercial a quote that was attributed to George. Lucas claims that he wishes he could take a sledgehammer to every copy still in existence. Even if he didn't actually say this does claim to hate the movie and he has ended interviews where people started to discussing it. He doesn't even acknowledge that it exists and vowed to never again cede control of a property with his name on it. To others without pervasive scrutiny. According to an interview done in Two Thousand Ten Carrie Fisher requested a copy of the holiday special from George Lucas in exchange for her participation in that Star Wars. Dvd Box. She claims that she used it to play at parties at a point where she wanted people to leave. Maybe a joke. Maybe it's not I don't know but in watching it you can instantly see why George. Lucas feels the way that he does about it. Star Wars from nine hundred seventy seven. That was a magical theatrical experience. There was a fairytale full of awe of miracle set in outer space right after watching star wars for the first time. You really wanted to see it again. In a lot of people did a lot of people probably went many many times to go see the movie theaters. The holiday special though takes those same characters and those places that boys and girls were dreaming about since they saw them in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven original and makes them seem goofy or bland and their situations are not exciting to watch in the slightest. In fact most kids are probably be bored by this other than the fact that they're watching something from Star Wars. Now other people may tell you that the special is best watched in smaller chunks if you take in the entire ninety seven minutes all once. It seems really disjointed monotonous. But if you can take it for each particular bite you'll probably find it much more entertaining. You can watch it until you grow bored with the site. Entertainment of the variety show delivery. It barely adheres to the main plot. So I don't even know if it's worth trying to keep that in mind however you take each segment on its own and it allows you to save that uniquely. Tangy flavor of awful movie making at its most misguided and therefore finding the hilarity to laugh at the end result. Because it's not woody enough to laugh with it. My wife had not seen that before I ended up watching it alone because I didn't want her to endure it but he did play for her. It just like a ten second clip of the WIKKI and talking to each other. Because I was trying to describe it to her and she ended up laughing uproariously. I know she probably would not have stuck with it much more than those ten seconds before she walked out of the room. Though the Star Wars holiday special we have been meant to continue that momentum for the star wars franchise in the making only threatened to kill it. Outright watching it again was never an option for most people and watching it in full for the first time was also something that few ended up enduring. But it's about as close to being a unanimously bad film as you'll find among people but you know as with nearly all movies that are abysmally bad. There is a sizable contingent of yours. Who enjoy it specifically because it is so terrible so mystifyingly absurd that it is very funny very entertaining in an ironic fashion so as much as I could give it the lowest grade of one star out of four I will give it one and a half because does have that. Entertainment value above and beyond. It's kind of almost so bad. It's good in many respects but some people choose to have it on the screen while they're listening to rift tracks on it or something like that or making fun of it with Beers or other things that they might use to keep entertained with their buddies or whatnot. If you're a complete or you're just curious I do recommend you seeking it out at least for a while and checking out what it has to offer one and a half stars is really the best and probably the best anybody should probably ever give Birth Star Wars holiday special as far as what. I'm going to be covering next week. We're to continue on with Star Wars. I don't think that this film I'm going to be reviewing next is worst than the Star Wars holiday special but it's not a whole lot better. It's called caravan of courage. Andy Walk Adventure came out in Nineteen eighty-four one of two E walk films made for television in the mid nineteen eighties. I will watch the first one coming up next week. Caravan of courage from nineteen eighty four for the next episode. If you have your thoughts on this holiday special that you want to impart you the right to me. By my contact information at my website you can go fine all of my links. My twitter feed facebook. Page instagram. That you want all of my presence on the Internet you can find at my website quipped. Stir Dot net. Twip DOT net until next time. Thanks so much for joining me on this trip around. 'cause chic and around the world in eighties movies but not.

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"Hi my name is kristen. Chenowitz petite about chris journalists and i feel petite about peeing back to school bingo up some Hello and welcome to conan. O'brien needs a friend. Really a a way for people to come together and learn to and learn. it's i just. I had nowhere. I had nowhere. I had you went to. The most unlikely thing is really not what this podcast is about all It is i just was phoning it in phoning it in. Yeah and i'm i'm here in studio of course always joins by my ex. What do you assistant someone who works with me assisted. You're someone i pay. And then i don't know anything after that. Sonum obsessing yeah. I'm your assistant. Eleven years long long long years and of course matt gourley producer. Do a terrific job man. You really think you. And i've been your producer. Never three years. Can you believe that really. We've been doing this three years. You seasons two years okay. You're always so much nicer than you are to me. What i feel like lately nation. 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And that's what i look like when i'm on the beach people actually say i can't believe. Jfk's mom is still alive. Oh it's conan o'brien. But i wear this hat and it looks really good and i realize it gives me. Let's just say it. Admit it sonal. It gives me big dick energy okay. I don't know about. I don't i will aid. Never say that and be. I don't know if it's a cool enough that when you're wearing a hat do you ever go up to people and it's not a dick that's a that's dick. This is dick. Get arrested for whipping out that snorre deck. This is a dick zip. And you're under arrest. My god you do it to a cop do the cops like what are you wearing that hat four. That's not a dick dick way. What are you talking about. Did you see appeanas now. You're australian accent sucks. And why is your penis out. I was trying to do that from crocodile. Dundee roy well it's terrible it doesn't lineup. Nothing lines up. You didn't see a penis. Why would you compare europeans to that peanuts. 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Gosh just wearing a kaiser helmet with a point. The planning yeah and like this is awful. And i'm like look. This is my vision standard hardcore pornography. But everyone's worrying kaiser's helmet we can't we have to get going. It's such a great show. Today generates show my guest. Today is an emmy and tony award winning actress who originated the role of glenda in the hit. Broadway musical wicked now. You can see her in the net flicks original movie holiday eight as well as the witches on. Hbo max she also hosts the food network series candy land. She's doing way too much. She must be stopped thrilled with us today. Extremely talented channel chenowitz. Welcome you know. You and i have a certain chemistry. That is undeniable undeniable chemistry question. You see you're going to agree with that. I want to disagree. But i can't right. Hugh tests leave wanted to not yet. But we have a thing that i can't whenever we're around each other thing i don't know what it is. I honestly don't know what it is. But i've known you for years coming on the show. And from the second. I i met you. I was like this is a kindred spirit. We are versions of the same person. The only difference being. You've you've been blessed with incredible talent. But that is so. I am just trying to what is it and then i thought i think you and i are both the kind of people that when the lights go out we get the trucks to turn on their lights in. We jump up on a hood and we give the people a show. Is that what it is. Yes also to add to what you just said. Because i have thought about what you said about you and die not only that but whether we make a million dollars or two hundred we're gonna go for it. Yes would you mean a million dollars or two hundred million dollars. 'cause if it's two hundred dollars i don't give a shit i'm not doing. I'm doing jack shit for two hundred dollars. But if it's anywhere between two and two hundred million range thousand i met you know what i love about this podcast relatable to everyone listening out there. Everyone driving around like he's right. I wouldn't do anything for less than two million dollars. I now to get to the refinery. No it's true. i don't think it has. I've always said i'm very happy. That show business seems to pay well. And i'm not gonna complain about that by. I don't think it's connected at all. With the reason. I do it but i've always felt like you. Here's another thing i'll say about you. You feel to me. Like i think there are a lot of performers that maybe are a product of their times. I feel like i could put you in a time machine and puts you back like three hundred years and you'd be a big star three hundred years ago like you just have that kind of talent that is not related to what's happening necessarily now you just have you have the pipes you have that vivacity. Wouldn't you say st louis. Yeah i think that it's it's a timeless talent. Yes fisher said what i said but you. I said it in a better way. I think our eloquent talent just like the whole time machine. I like the idea of christie's put me in a time machine. I probably said you know what we are by. Thank you and i are are great combination of old school and new school together. Meaning we both have both right. I hope so. I don't know supposed to agree with no no. I know you have it. I i feel awkward. You keep putting gloss on your lips to chapstick now. I'm not being paid. It's very sensual. You're being very sensual as you. Put it on. And you're exaggerating your movements. I've been a long look. I need to remind you that. I'm a married man and your tricks won't work on me. I already know this okay. No idea what she's love her on my wife then you frankly i know my better now. You're drinking something. what are you doing. Okay yes i see that you realize this is a this is a podcast doing visual stuff. You keep doing visual bits. Kristen like doing funny. Bits chapstick and twenty of his. And you're a mime without a camera without an audience. I don't know what's happening here. This is a podcast call that monday. You're having your iced coffee very loudly. And i'm trying to rein you in. That's right. I don't think i don't think you can be me. No one can rain you in knowing you know you world force listen. Most harris not mine. I'm happy to be anywhere near you. I it's like water the desert water and a freaking desert. I realize nobody can see me. I'm just happy to be with my people understood. I love that. I love that. I'm your people. You are your so fidgety. To us helped me out here described. What's happening. chris chenowitz all over the map. I think she's a lot like you in that way where she can't. I mean it seems like christian. You can't sit still which is cool of a lot of performers. i'll tell you what's killing christian. And i right now no audiences yes and i think it is driven kristen over the edge. She's the first guest to say that she wants to pee on me which honest though that may be. She's lost her mind. She's gone crazy because with needs an audience the way a any fish needs water and metoo we are are just. I know you're so former with the says we are not in court. Why don't you die when it's safe on tour. Yes i'll do it cocoa and casey. We'll give you we'll give you top billing. I think that's only right. But you had top billing. As long as i have the most money all right then my ego says go for it if i to have lead billing now listen. Here's my question. I think you and i would destroy if we had a a live show together. We would absolutely destroy. I already know this. That's what i'm saying to you sir. Okay here's what i'm saying to you ma'am to me. If we had a show together cures the problem inevitably i know. You're a great singer. And able. Hoods has kristen shannon with forty five octave range and she's amazing. She's the best singer that ever lived in the world. well guess what. I'm a singer too. I will be acknowledged as a singer. And i think that would be a problem if we shared a stage. I'd inevitably get to have my song and you would have a problem with that say called. I can't sing. No that's not what the song is called. I can't sing. I know what we can do together and we would slay as the kids say. I really can't stay. It's cold outside and got to go. Of course we could only do a winter. But wouldn't we kill it isn't that is that the song become politically in corral. Great but the updated. Well here's the problem. Is that i think in that song. It's a guy you know you to stay. Put something in your drinking. You know that's me out. Is that that song. Yeah baby it's cold outside. Yeah and it's like the christmas song with no consent. Yeah and she saying. Like i really should go. And he's like. Hey baby no. The doors locked. You know it's it's creepy doesn't always that explains my last record sale. You talking about well. That songs on it and you didn't change the lyrics to know. But i had a thought like why am i going really can't stay really got to go. It will go like the whole thing happened. But i didn't say anything of bolted the door. You're not going nowhere ripped out. No i think that's the problem with getting now getting out ran. I've got friends on the cops. Dad's the district attorney. My mom is a lawyer but No i do think. I think you're going to have to acknowledge that. I have some singing ability. I mean i know not your music person will. Why can't you just say you're really good singer. Why can't you say that with an operatic ring. 'cause that's all i had in life. Let you have it okay. i'll let you have it. You'll be the singer of the two of us please. You can have like you're sort of pitch and i'll be right on the money you can do all that stuff like i've seen you you. Can you can disable a computer with your voice. Your there's all this stuff you can launch missiles if you hit a certain you all these cool things. That kristen can do that. I've seen her do like she. Can she can make a car alarm. Go off She can she can dial anyone's phone with without even touching it by greenwich and then suddenly knows she knows who to call she can call the. Emt's it's really amazing was known as you try out that you literally have a superpower. I think you're the only person. I know who has a superpower. Thank you that i don't know. Is it botox. Am i froze. You realize kristen many times. I've called you and said we were doing a podcast and we weren't. I just wanted to talk to you. I know it away to get away with it. I would then long ads for state. Farm insurance state farm repairs place mattress company. I've gotta get a life. Because i know all the jingles but like i say getting back to what i was talking about is i am bouncing off the walls because i love audiences and then i'm thinking to myself who loves an audience probably even more than i do kristin chenoweth and stalin. Those are the two people love a crowd. And i'm not in any way equating. You with that terrible decifit But i sometimes. I'm one of those people that thinks i. There's no crowd here. Do i even exist and i feel like you might be one of those people. What are you doing you. Are you finding that you're performing more now for people. Like if i if i see anybody. Even if they're eight feet away and wearing a mask. I try and get them to laugh in a way that often means that called the police what are you doing. How are you getting your performer. Fixed these days. I feel badly for my hotel mirror because nobody's there and yet i'm performing inside by bathroom in the mirror. Next door to me and vancouver is alan coming and he bangs on the wall like stop singing or stop doing a concert dialogue but it sucks. Okay bear i said it it stinks. I hate it. I feel starved. And i don't know what that says about me. Like am i in our sisters. But it's really the relationship between artist and audience that only live performers as opposed to date her only live performance. Understand did you make a hongkong. Sound what you did. No i understand. I understand what you're saying is that it is so hard to and look everyone's dealing with it in their own ways. We've got to figure out a way to get audiences back we've just got to. How do we do at connor. Well that's what i thought. The podcast is the two of us cracking it. Now they talk about. There's going to be vaccine. it's ninety percent effective. I don't think that's the way to go. Because what if year that ten percent that dries it. You know what i mean. What's the daisy. No one says whoopsie daisy when they contract goethe it. That's what happened to filling with fluid. That's never happened. That's not what happened. How do you know where you there in every single case no. Nobody somebody whoops sundays. At what point when the virus microscopic virus entered their lung. is that when they said whoopsie. Daisy maybe were you to say. Who am i to say okay. Let's talk about this. You say that you're in vancouver right now and alan. Cumming is in the room next door. If i had to count the number of times. I've checked into a hotel or a motel and alan. Cumming was in the next room. I don't mean it would be like several hundred times. He's always every he just ask anybody. Ask any celebrity. Who's in a hotel. Who's in the next room. It's always alan coming. Just lives in hotel. He just goes in hotels and complains when other performers trion warm up. He's always complaining about the noise design making me. I know what you mean. You always have to do better than me. yes. I do all right. I'm going to show you some of my vocal range and then it's time for you to be blown away mama dada now look at that. That was at least seven octaves in. They're all at the same time. it was lot. I don't know anyone who would pay. Also your tongue comes out of your brain when you do that. That's supposed to be erotic. That is supposed to be what gives the people in our situation. Perhaps i asked and helped me because again i. I don't have your abilities. What do you do to be able to do. I mean obviously you were born with talent but what do you have to do every day to keep the old pipes in tune. Well i need probably similar to you. Not really but i have to get in the shower warm up because the steam opens up the vocal folds as we say and then i liked to work work out the bottom part of my register and the top part of my register which somewhat say mytalk is always warmed up if you know what i mean god. Tom swarmed up if the bottoms skewed shape. I know i'm trying to throw you on this guy. Anybody wanna jump in. I yes listen to me. Speak isn't my top always warmed up. Yes it is. You're always. I mean i sound like i've sucked. Helium top is over again again with the lip. Chapstick what's going on. I just miss you. And i need you in my life and i need this okay. I'm sweating and yeah. Madaba doing everywhere. Okay in another universe let me ask you think my wife would be okay with me asking you this but another universe. Say before i'm married. Whatever would you. And i could have ever made it as a couple. Do you think okay. Here's what number one. I cheer built. So there's that number two. I feel like we would full on less skit at oran and then after a month we'd be like but wait. It's my stand up time. You listen exactly which one would give up the spotlight. But i love that you said. Here's what makes me happy. You said we'd have our get it on time and you implied it would last and now there's two ways to take that the i don't know how to take that first of all. There's the that it actually would last a month. Which would make me feel amazing. You got out. That was a month long sexual orgy. That would be fantastic. The other is that You think you'd be like after a month. Yeah that's the maximum amount of time. I could be conan. O'brien's i'm going to say and vice versa. No and vice versa. Are the that clingy. Weird guy that can even after you told me very clearly it's over. I'd still keep showing up. So i just thought maybe we could but it wasn't clear who's this guy. What's he doing here. they can stay. I always feel like you have your choice of things to do. But you're the perfect person. And i don't know if it's that. The format has gone away but to bring back the variety show like that's you'd be so fantastic at being the star of that kind of carol burnett variety show and i'm guessing that something that you've always been kind of intrigued with say things number one if that ever happened the first person on my list and you can ask three arts. Management is conan o'brien with me. That's number one. You could alley. You'd want me up there. You want me on the show. The the lyle wagner the handsome guy in sketches harvey korman more harvey korman. Okay right yeah guy. That looks like it has the comic ability of harvey. Korman got it. Second thing i want to say about. It is one of my mentors. I have to is carol burnett and we talked about it quite often and she gives me the rest advise. Only do it if it can be done like. And she's not saying this about herself right. She saying this about the show at all the elements that came to it. Only do this if it's been being done right the way we did it with bob macky like costume. Designer orchestrations core. You know what i'm saying. That's the way to do it and if it can't be done that way which is expensive as we both know. Then why right. This is something i think you can relate to. I think when the pressure's on my assumption about you is that when there's a lot of people watching and things and of course this what you cut your teeth on but broadway an audience. It's gotta be right now and it's gotta be perfect that that actually helps you need that that enhances your performance. That makes you much better that moment of right now and it's gotta be perfect. You need that pressure. I do better with depression. My mom and dad had told me that since i was a little well younger person. And it's not true you were muncie. Whaler much taller when you were younger. You said you've got a whole benjamin button thing going on. I've seen pictures of you and you were like seven feet tall amazon amazon. Heidi klum watch out. Yeah but it's hard to explain to people who don't have that at the same time i don't mean to sound arrogant is just. I don't know how to not do anything else. I don't know how to not show up when people say don't worry about it too on the day i don't know what on the day eat and that's the other thing too is that people are always saying what are you talking about. It's just this small thing you're just gonna get up and you're going to say some comments and then they're going to cut the ribbon on the brand new swimming pool at the ymca. And i'm just as nervous as if it was you know white house correspondents dinner so it doesn't. I don't know what that is a tried using all kinds of medications and nothing changes. Hello zola so listen i want to say something about. This song is just a song to me. It's a whole thing that matter. How long it. It doesn't matter how casey or conan it is. It still matters. It's funny because you're also naturally so good with audiences you're very funny and you're very funny on your feet and i can tell you love that part of it. Which is the old school. I gotta get out there. I gotta make these people laugh and it may be i. It'll be completely different laughs than any that i've gotten before but i'm getting these with these people tonight and that's proved to them that this isn't just a formula that you crank out for everybody. No in fact. Like i said my best shows been schenectady. Or who's what's go. Nuts seems to be like carnegie hall like what does of course. They're wonderful but to me. I'm happy with them but at the same time. Some of the just random places. It's just a a lesson to us. Who do what we do live. Let it go there. Would out there listen to years one mouth listen to the audience and feed off of it. The first advice i got when i came out to. La this is such a long time ago. It was just after world war two and i came to la Just off my ship. Pacific san francisco and then made my way down. Donald tramp steamer and sort of hung out with some hobos for awhile was a private detective for about two years and then finally made my way to los angeles a not gets us to buy one thousand nine hundred ninety six and when i got there i was born. Yeah when i got there. When i got there i remember taking an improv class and the teacher stopping me and i was getting a lot of last but the teacher stopped me and said your problem. Is you think too much. And i knew then that she was wrong. And i just made it on. Keep doing it my way. And that's why i know but she's right she was right. Listen and see where what the opportunities are and see. What's going and see what's happening and follow that. Allie sounds like we have the same teacher. My teacher said i can see you. Try to be clever and advance. Therefore you're not exactly in the moment everybody else loves it but i see and when. She knelt me for that she was right. It's a constant voice in my head not the other voices the ones that aren't telling you to kill and kill again Go to the life. No it's true. I think the only thing that that strange about this format this podcast format which i started on just a complete lark was that i like that. I can't really have too much of a plan going in you can. But it's really not what it's about it's about following whatever undulations in truly cues and and little eddies on. And that's usually where the really good stuff this it's not trying to force it and then later on adding kooky sound effects you had me too little eddie. No small stream you know in an eddie is some little little. What little stream isn't that me out. It's a whirlpool. it's a little whirlpool stream. There will be eddie eddie industry. Oh yeah you're right. It's worlds you. Please be quiet while we sort out. Eddie is this is a time for you to stand down. Yes you standing down on the little look at you again. Look at you. What is that helped me. It's not just so that people at home don't think i'm a creep. Kristen has spent most of the interview luxuriating with her touch. Chapstick lip is at a touch of. it's canada i'm dr die is a bone. Probably not the sexist. See now matt's doing it too when you do. It's not sexy really isn't just any is doing all this stuff and i'm just losing my mind and then the shot of you is looks like you're some kind of a road chewing on a stick. Yeah i'm with you. I'm gonna leave. No no no not. That just was good. It's stopped me from getting too carried away. Well listen if anybody takes any one thing on this podcast christiana chenowitz and i had there been an alternate universe. We were together. It would have been a very passionate month very passionate month. But i i'm going to say too much passion that you would have realised that will destroy me. That's too much passionate will destroy me. And i must get away from this man. Did i interpret that correctly. Apologize listening it like that. Don't you love the modern technology and the delay and an ever isn't it just are it is it is they. They have this technology them told nancy technology. That allows me to speak to you while you're in vancouver but then pretty soon it starts to become you say something and then i wait while it comes through a pneumatic to six hundred miles in a canister and then i read it and i go. Kristen said that she likes to cut my jab. Maybe i'll flirt back and tell her you're not so bad yourself and i put it in a little canister and it shoots towards you that we've been reduced to and i'll say is this from little edie. Edie my nickname. I can't stop. it's not my. It's a comedy keller but yet we're still killing it if i'm you didn't ask but i'm also we can add at any point here. It's i can. I can afford to add massive massive laughs. Huge cheering sounds matt. Will you do that for us. This podcast was filmed before a live studio. This that we took no covid protocols. No one was tested. No one wore a mask. We were all sitting on each other's laps and hold the wells fargo wagon another note. I can't i need to go away. You don't wanna ask you about this show candy land. It's on the food network. It's the series. Tell me about candy. Land is this the actual game candy land. Does it have anything to do with that game or first of all when the food network called. I said i have to wait and think about this. Because such a baker i thought about it for thirty seconds and we were in the pandemic. I thought me a face shield. Put me on a set. Look at it as you're gonna learn something you're gonna have this great artists molding and sculpting out of sugar and confection and i just. They're real artists. What they do is true. Artistry i could never do what i can play candy land at age five but when i walked on the set the bra it was like it was like candy lane had come to life and i was just one of the game pieces it it was. It's was a wonderful surprise. You know what it is. It's like it's architecture. You know the really good bakers candy makers their architects actually thinking about like load-bearing. And how is this gonna be three dimensional. And how is this going to sparkle and shine and work. So it's pretty awesome. It's pretty amazing. are you get to then eat. The whole set was edible cronin. I walked on set. The trees were cotton candy and the set designers like. Please don't eat the trees leave the liquorice lagoon alone. It was incredibly hard for me not to nervous eats. I was nervous eating because there was lollipop village. Lemon lime forests peppermint forest. Also when most of the the candies are taller than you. And this is a true peppermint force the sticks peppermint. I was like did anybody ask my height because they completely went. It was so annoying massive. I i just. I loved it. I just loved it. I loved it. I met and you're gonna enjoy it because the drama right. It's it's all. The drama of those are my favorite shows. The food competition shows or my favorite shows. I like shows where you have to have a skill. Those are the shows. I like the most and where people that's great british baking. Show or any of these shows where someone is demonstrating that they have an ability and they actually know things. Those are the shows i like. I like those shows a lot. Better than ha ha. You're stupid and we've got footage of you making a mistake. I feel like that's cutting into what that's sort of what i've i've carved out that nation people shouldn't leave at the fuck alone. It's yours baby. Give it to you thank you well. I'm looking forward to seeing it. You're hosting this show. It's on the food network and it's called candy land. This looks like it's going to be It'd be great. This was a show. I can also watch with my kids. My son who just turned fifteen is an avid baker. He loves making cookies and stuff like that and he also is always looking for a show like this so i'll be watching this with him fifteen. Yeah he's fifteen. I take five ambien. What happened seriously we grow time goes by you and i have known other a long time i did grow. We did feed him and he did grow. And that like what is that like. I wouldn't know sir. I wasn't taunting you. Listen you're going to. There's still a chance you could still grow. It could happen any time now. I think there's a lot of hope for you early. Here's my hope. My hope is that you. And i get to the other side of this pandemic and i would love to get into an in front of an audience with you in any way and if i second billing and if i have to take a huge pay cut because all the money's going to the diva the bake star with the thirty five to bring and i'm just the big. I'll do it. I'll do it. Because you and i'll have a great time. Wouldn't that be fun. I'd love to do that. you're here oh yes yes it would be fun and i would love it so much and you heard it here. First everybody him. I didn't make him pay you later. You did lure me you've been provocatively chap sticking your lips constantly this entire interview and there you go again good lord sanity to all right. Well listen. I want you to behave yourself while you're up there okay. That's that much love to you. Much left to you. I know i. I wanna make sure i let you go because i think they said you have to be out in two minutes and i want to give you time to rehydrate your lips seven more times before your next interview. Okay can we. Please go on tour. Can we please go on tour when it gets save. I'm very i could do it too. We've gotta find some things that i can do. Yes i can get him to laugh but people need to know that. I can sing as well. Donny boy type. Stop piles call in. And i'm doing nothing with my i sound like rudy vallee. Nine eighteen twenty. Four all on a phonograph. That's made of human shit. You should all right. Well god god bless you. I do love you chris. China with your one of my favorite people and let's see each other on the other side of this madness okay. I love you same back at you. Got by guys and ladies off. Let's do a little review the reviewers this is also a good time to say that Listeners should rate and review this podcast. And i'll tell you what you give it a five star rating. There's a better chance of getting your view talked about on this segment so go to apple podcasts. And do that. So we're actually. We're skewing the review by saying that. Yeah and that's okay. That is generally accepted behavior and podcasting whatever it takes to get the highest reviews like extortion. Yes paola yeah. We might mention you if you give us a five star review. Yeah look. I hope the quality of our work craftsmanship if you will would be enough to garner us a five star review but if that's not the case yes we will mention you and Who knows we might send you like a case of pairs. Just as we're not going to now just said that as an example of something might happen slash will never have no never get bartlett parents from us. I ve us five stars. Wow how did that happen from chow. We how and the title is conan is the best english teacher ever conan. O'brien i'm howie chow. From china. I've made a huge progress on my english since i started listening to your podcast during this pandemic every day. No matter what i'm doing. I want to hear your voice. I imitate your pronunciation. Repeat what you said in. The show tried to speak an authentic english and now every people who talk with me says that i sound like a pervert. Got me good. What he had me he seems so sincere and then at the end pervert that's fantastic. I'm proud. I've met many people over the course of my many years. Doing this who've told me you know all they could get was our show or they used to watch the show and they were in a foreign country and that's how they learned english. I think your english sonal improved delilah. No no once you started working for me. I have a national speech champion so i was already wall crushing it. Have you ever talked about that. You're very proud of it. Yeah i talk about it all the time i know now. Was that graded on a curve of you came from armenia so that no i'm just i'm trying to understand. Hey if you will learn to speak english by listening to conan. Do you pronounce saturday night. Live live if san. Because i told explain this to everybody. Lorne was actually born in the south. People don't know that he was born in toronto and then he lived through on the south he does pronounce it sign. It live and we always do a little tip of the cap to learn every time you talk to someone and you you have hard. Geez you have very hard jeep. Oh wow okay all right you do. Oh let me go cry about it. You're gonna like a glass ashtray floor. There's a g at the end of the word pronounced set. So maybe you do it wrong. That's all know you'll say that's a nice ring ring ring. No there's no. We've been through the salon. Howie saturday night live. I'm proud of you. That's very cool that we've helped you. I'm sorry that you sound like a pervert but if you imitate a man who deep down feelings then you're going to eventually sound like a pervert so that's on you howie you know you could've. There are many great people you could listen to and not sounded like a pervert but you chose an actual man who deep down in. His core is a pervert. So but i'm very proud of of that. And i hope you're listening to me more than you're listening to sona because her jesus very hard guys objective editor of this podcast. I can tell you it's true. Sonal does ring her. Jeez harder but there are things you both do that. I have to fix like conan. You start a lot of phrases with with malls to get attention. No that's not why i do it. Sometimes it gets people to stop speaking because it sounds like you're about to speak. It's a little signifier. Don't you just heard the sound of me taking little pills that keep me alive so fuck you. I have to take constantly have these very small pills. Hold on their these very small pills. I have to take that sustained my life. Because i have a very unknown condition. Very it's not unknown. It's very it's very unknown. And the only they thank god they they found these pills. They're very small. And i have to take them Often when i'm starting a sentence well the listener might not know it because i cut a lot of them out right and sony. You clear your throat. A lot i do. I know that i do that. See i take ownership of the things that i do and the things that i say and pronouncing correctly or if i clear my throat i'm like yeah you're right i do that. I don't say. I take lifesaving pill that no one knows about just to make up for my we and you're in broadcasting you've been in broadcasting really. Yeah for twenty eight years can i say. I've never really been a professional. I've been someone who found myself in broadcasting and behaved in this outrageous way and it is ben somehow a career. But i'm not one of those people that went to broadcasting school or ever had. No one ever gave me any training. So if there's the occasional lips. Mac is i eat tiny little pills that keep me alive. Let it go liquid. How he's done to you guys know what i'm let's stick to. The bigger was clear. My throat sonner clear to throat and let's just hope she never says ringling brothers circus Those hope you never start offending. That's why i keep talking. So i never have to start lifesaving pills i thank you. Sarah editing. The show and making it sound good. But let's stick to the inspirational part of this. Which is a man named howie who lives in. China is learning to speak english by listening to our podcast and that to me is a beautiful thing is proof that we can learn from each other b- brothers and sisters. I think that's a beautiful thing. Okay hold on a second hold on more life. Get to live a little longer. You guys do this to you. Can you talk to people who don't get along and got us not getting along. This wasn't even about me. This question was do me. You extend your email me. She'll say i haven't noticed though. Bother me this question was not about me. It was about you. I don't know why i got sucked into it. I honestly don't know i didn't. He told you you sound like a perv any deserted talking about my heart cheeky guy that goes with sound like a perv. There's nothing pervy and all about that. Don't do that. Sound do it in the microphone that he said it was like. Yeah yeah where did how. We didn't even bring it up. It's our genius producer over here. 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"Blazing Saddles" 45th Anniversary Tribute with Andrew Bergman and Norman Steinberg

Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast

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"Blazing Saddles" 45th Anniversary Tribute with Andrew Bergman and Norman Steinberg

"What's up everybody Quin Brinson? I'm K- Peterman and this holiday season we're bringing you Cisco and tree bird present a Christmas podcast. Spectacular tackler on is where we will be reviewing your favorite Christmas movies from my perspective a Jehovah's Witness who's never celebrated Christmas in her life and my perspective someone who was raised Catholic and has been celebrating Christmas three hundred sixty five days a year for the past thirty years. That's right we'll be talking about movies like die hard a Christmas Carol Christmas story Christmas speak Asian Christmas this Christmas tune in to check it out brought to you by starbucks audio will be found on Apple spotify stitcher era era. PODCAST CHECK US out. Happy meal Hi this is Gilbert Gottfried Niches Gilbert Godfrey to Mason Colossal podcast podcast with my co host Sprang Santo Padre where joined by two guests this week. Both back per return visit Andrew. Andrew Bergman is a novelist playwright occasional movie producer celebrated screenwriter and director whose whose work includes the films soapdish. Oh God you devil and the original latch as well the classic comedy that we've discussed previously on this ferry. PODCAST nineteen seventy nine. The the in laws he also wrote and directed the features honeymoon in Vegas. So fine a could happen the U. isn't she great script dis and the Frenchman. Norman Steinberg is an emmy me winning TV writer screenwriter and writing teacher with numerous credits on situation comedies variety Bridie shows comedy albums and feature films such as Yes Giorgio. Why skies funny about Glove Johnny Dangerously and movie that we love to talk about on this? Show the terrific nineteen eighty two comedy. Hamady my favorite year but tween them they worked with. Some of entertainment industry's admired You're performers such as George Carlin. Alan Arkin Peter. Oh Do Peter Full Magic God odd. Alan alda Michael. Keaton Bette Midler Gene Wilder George Burns Burt Reynolds Luchino Prov variety and Marlon Brando. Back in the early nineteen eighteen seventies they joined forces with Mel Brooks a Richard Prior to write the screenplay based Sean Andrews Original Story for a movie currently celebrating its forty fifth and virtually the VI conic Western spooked blazing saddles. Please welcome back to the podcast tune. Nice Nice Jewish boys from Queens and Brooklyn and two of the men responsible for arguably the funniest funniest film comedy ever made. Andrew Bergman and Norman Steinberg spiritually. Are you got some recent great. Welcome back boys career in March Norman. It's been a while. Yes yes you're in the old joint. I know you'll space I in the in the old space. Yeah but this sumptuous this gorgeous beautiful sarcasm has started and by the way the brisket unhappy with the failure. Now we probably ask you both before but just a quick One of how you two got into show business in the first place Andrew. You can go first. That's a very good question. I got into show business had appeared in American history and I couldn't get a teaching job and I had written this story about black sheriff in the old West I got a job at united artists as a very inept. Pr Guy for a year and during that period of time somehow sold This story to WANNA brothers much to my amazement and delight and one thing led to another and eventually as these things always do it became a hit movie uh-huh And now your turn Norman. I did something that probably none of you of done. I was in the army after law school. I went to law school. PASS THE NEW YORK BAR exam and I. I had a job as a lawyer. I fifty seventh street and Seventh Avenue and I would go there every that was making one hundred dollars dollars a week. That's good money y'all mount daddy in nineteen sixties and. Every morning I would go downstairs to chock-full nuts and they always Mellberg's and I started pulling on his jacket and saying I want to be a writer one of your writer or and he would put his hands on my shoulders and look deeply into my eyes and say leave me alone ha but I didn't and and Hoping Mel will be listening to this because We both came out of that Mel Brooks Universe. Yeah he's he's the. He's the reason you both met Yup. Yeah and and One Sunday he ju- he just said you're a real pain in the ass here. Call this guy who is a producer of get smart and I called him and he and Mel indeed had called them and said skid wants to be a writer and he said he tells me you want to be a writer so right something right in an episode. Forget smart which I did and I sent it to him a week later they. He called one of the writers on get smart. Chris Haywood Chris Hayward quake great guy and he said if the show is picked up which was if the show is picked up by the script and so I went in the next day and quit. quit being a lawyer. That was a that. Was My start your officially in show business official in show business pretty amazing. That melt burks did that. He listed his For all his brashness and his at at base A wonderful man. He's a loyal all dry and he loves he protects writers. He protected US and both Andy and I were in his his face and he took we. We immediately became. Because we didn't know what the hell we would own nor the goodness that none none of us knew it though I mean he had me in. I had written the script like a hundred and forty pages tags X. no more than sex eggs and The Senator Warner Brothers had bought it and originally Alarcon was going to direct it and James Earl Jones is gonNA play the sheriff and that fell apart and so they went to melon melon. And the first thing that Moore's executive what you lose your original writer thumped Bergman and you get some guys but he wouldn't do it he said I want I want them to work with them and I was twenty seven. That was beyond nobody sub. Nobody you know. And that's something I will never forget. I heard him say that he was trying. His original impulse. Impulse was to have you normalize the other guys in the room and then he realized that I was craziest. Yeah I was down own in Acapulco with him got a job in on a special They call it was aqua cade in Acapulco that it was a hell of a show. I love off Acapulco memorable Tony Randall. ed Ed Johnny Psycho Man and and still earn Mira Jan peers passionate maniacs and Special Guest Star Mel Mel Brooks and so Suddenly I'm work with him and he and we we just he would tell tales at at dinner and was the greatest and at the end of the ten days in Aqaba Cocoa. He he said I got this script. Read it and tell me if you think it's funny and it was in the script and I said I think it's hilarious. Should great meet will look down at this restaurant in in on House then called Oh Balatas with him and then Bancroft who was pregnant at that point with Mac and he's like what forty two now something like founded my research he was born during the Yes. I know that. Yeah Yeah. So and that was And he said okay. Come on you're going to do it and The Guy who wrote this is going to be there. And that's where the and I met in that restaurant or in the room for the first time I wasn't allowed you weren't allowed. Ah Pretty High Class restaurant you guys have been friends ever since. Yeah and that's amazing. I mean do you remember. You have a vivid memory of the initial meeting. I do I certainly remember the first time we all gathered in that room and was feeling each other Out a short and I'd never written a thing except for this. This first draft I wasn't thinking myself as a comedy writer per se. It was a writer But I feel I remember the first night after me. Call me at home I was my wife is at she when I came back. She said Mel Brooks Cool said God. I wouldn't what he wants he said so it wasn't so terrible with me right. I'm not such a monster. It was so brilliant. So it's I was you know whatever it's when when you said it was like playing tennis with Borg Lendl predicament. Richard Pryor came in on this. And I've written a station writing comedy with Mellon Richie Norman and and it was really like interview with You know federal those guys. Let's go watch it like working with Briar. The righteous Jerem it. It was great I mean he was. He was such a Michigan and but such a lovely person I mean he really was he was he. was you never in. Which Ritchie was gonNA show but it was never like a really hostile Ritchie? He was just he was a low of the play said certainly coked up but he would come up with some one day just disappeared in showed up like dresses the mate. I'm just GonNa ask you and interesting the room while I'm never gonna the the day. That Mel called his agent to get them to work with us. What he worked with US MEL phrase in the following way? Listen before Ju- sitting in a room. We need someone coming into the windows. That was that was I and he was. He was in the room like three days later. And didn't he disappear to lie only disappeared a few this Detroit Richard. Yeah they didn't see banker's hours we didn't I think that he would be as a compulsive. Ju Writer he wouldn't be Bob Blue and you know but he worked and he he. He showed up and he was hilarious. I was sort of his I I was his companion canyon because I would go with him at night and one night we went to the tonight show and my friend Steve. Landsberg Berg was on the show that nine got and he wanted to Ritchie. Wanted to see Steve so we went there and the Richard was in the room and in the green room and talking the way. Talk so this motherfucker and there's a guy a guy comes over to kind of big guy and and says Hey Pal take it down a notch because there were women here he was from the Sierra Club and Richardson. I'M GONNA kick your ass. Make him a room and that's I would meet them at night and we'd go somewhere but I I. In fact the first day he came in with we were he was late for his trouble. Shaving needs to really get his face really wet before you can save. That's why I now. But prior one time he wasn't at the meeting and he called up from Detroit. Well Michael Hertzberg tells that story in the documentary that he that he he wound up calling in and he said he needed money to get home. This is ringing bell. I think he was in Chicago. COM needed train fare. The on the commentary Mel says when he hired him he said I'm coming by train. You'll have some Remy Martin for me right. CAMILA WANNA fly the first day we he came in we all we were brought them up to speed. It was it was about noon and Mel was saying. Here's what we're doing and Richie was and doing doing doing up. Some coke as he spoke a little container. Thimble sized thing okay happened. I know we were so innocent. Seventy two you're a kid from corona. I don't know what's going on post nine. I knew thunderbird. I didn't ask nobody over to me. And asset offering him the coke and said brother Mel and he said never before lunch and when he ordered lunch that we all ordered he ordered a roast beef sandwich. And a bottle of KVASS right ALARIA. Yeah you had a little history with him from the Flip Wilson show. I worked workman worked with him. On the Flip Wilson Show and when the only thing I'll disagree with Mel said that to the room where we're four Jews news and we need a gentleman of color. Remember the windows the head secretary. Who was who wanted to get in wanted to be an actress and she she would show up every day? Dressed in different outfit now liked She was going to be the schoolmarm tough Ajab Lunatics Jeb to keep it all straight in Google patents. There's something sweet that I think that he wanted to create the experience from. I'm show of shows he he could have yet come in. I don't know if it was sweeter just figured that's the way that's the way we Algebra for four he might he might bend. NBA serve both Britain. Yeah Yeah I mean the thing about Richie but Richie did for us and that was behind with three Jews you know we need some windows was he. Gave US permission. Sure this movie could not have been once Richie was in this. It's like you rented a car and they told you you can run all the Stop Stop Signs and the Red Lights Right. That doesn't apply to this vehicle. And that's how he wrote the movie and he said recently in an interview with that Blazing Saddles could not be done nowadays. Hello Yeah I don't think there's two pages of the incident incident. I'm not even sure somebody like spike Lee could make it some sort of version of it in Django tango in Django. If remember I mean there was one really funny thing we'll go. They couldn't see out out of their Cook Klux Klan Masks. But but they did they they were pretty out there. I thought and That came close. I don't I don't know why why not. Why not I mean I it's Times have changed and maybe an aspect way maybe be trump has opened things up making things down into the grossest level. I wondered on every time. I think we've reached that point where people people say. You can't do comedy anymore and then I watch the Comedy Central Roast of Alec Baldwin the other night and it was gone entirely outrageous and over the top and it was a breath of fresh air just to is just to see that that that that can still be done and maybe it's because it's protected environment. I I always thought like trump got one of the reasons trump got got an office is Chris. I think people are going. Oh my God. He's a guy that changed to whatever he feels like. Yeah and we're tired of being scared but look what you look you did with Planes after after nine eleven. Yeah that was Outrageous planes stopping at the empires. They building come on. That was In in that respect it's transgresses. Same thing it's interesting in his case because he did that joke in it and I would say it almost gave your career a boost. Yeah because then I lost the entire crowd and they booing and hissing and then they wanted to the aristocrats. Oh father's fucking the sun. That's in the flip side of that coin is when you did similar I'll say irreverent material about the Su- Nami. Yes you got punished. Yes yes so you you were somewhat. You were rewarded and punished. Oh yeah or similar you never taste. Yeah yeah which is which I find strange did mel right assign. Please don't write a polite script. No okay that's bullshit now back to the good life the stuff you find when you do when you thought you were going to shoot down. The prior came into the room dressed as the made for sure refresh yes. It's nice to know that actually happened now. What I find so strange? He's like years later. Prior and wilder would become this big copy and Mel wanted him for this movie he did. He did rich Richard never believed him. He they he. He was just radioactive at that time and his pat but mel fought for him and it would. That would have been an interesting film would have been. Cleveland was fabulous fabulous. He was the right. The right person at the right time and we interviewed I think every Black Mulatto Malato holly yellow median depending who flip nel. I know the studio had record suggested him. Okay couldn't have done. It didn't have those those jobs as chops Lou. Gossett is interesting in the pilot which is on the yeah. It was more of a prior. He's more he is that weighs he's he's edgier absolute on places like a sweetheart. Yeah well he was thing. Yeah it was not a prison prison with a Lotta Edge. She was just a you. Know a wonderful guy. Yeah Gorgeous which also helped you know. Yeah what we've discussed before with with both of them. We brought up the movie. You know the the talk about a happy accident. I mean not only gig young falling out and wilder coming in that the two of them would have that automatic chemistry him like that it. Just what a what. A what miraculously surprise who knows who knows and what happened. They did bring Gig young and the Waco Dan Dailey before was Carson asked or is that also through those steps I dream. Yeah that Johnny emme would play The Waco could right and I went to the tonight show with Mel. He was doing tonight show and afterwards I remember I was carrying his his suit. Forum and Elson. Yeah your duties in Canada. and Johnny went into Johnny's dressing room. He said does your Valet and and Mel Said had sent the script to him and and Carson said Ah Mel on. This is what I do. This is what I do and I can I will not. I'm not an toured. I'm not up. Then he was running he was. I heard that Gig young was supposed to be the voice of Charlie. In Charlie's angels series raise quite punished by SA. When they called him you know he was he was loaded on the floor? Yeah so they went from Carson to Dan Dailey. Daily Mail says on the commentary that Dan Dailey loved the script but then he called back and he said I can't see I'm I'm almost blind coke bottle glasses and then gig young mm-hmm who did have a little bit of a habit. Yes the ball which which gave him maybe a leg up but that was a bridge too far as it turned turned out now. This was just a favor. You know he just he just Mel said. I please do this for me to do gene wilder. Yeah Yeah Exchange for doing mel doing young Frankenstein which was Gene script so that was happening barter. Happy for everybody was that was practically the overnight that yeah like you just showed up. Yeah Yeah and walked into the room and now you can't picture anybody else no doing it. Oh well movies movieline that. You can't picture anybody else to anything it's true it's true. I mean months comes off. It's true and we. We always love talking about great rate old character actors and that movie is fullback. Yeah every one of them so good no matter how small the part slim. Yes well slim was the greatest Franken. I were talking about that. He was given a hotel room but he chose to sleep outside. Is that true to you with his dog and his rifle. This is another maybe another urban myth the book of Apocryphal. Just please. He's a great on the western stream tucked over half the story story that's been published and it's funny because you see it in some places was that he he'd passed on the hotel room and said I'm going to sleep outside with my stay in character. Eric there was though Mel interviewed him. JEN interview. Just told him what it was going to be long. And he said we're GonNa put put you where we're gonNA build you up. We we have special boots made that are going to be like platform boots. He's Mr Brooks I like to wear more on boobs. Say Okay Fine. We have this horse. This beautiful magnificent Mr Bruce Mown or I mean he had everything. He's a great writer. I mean you you don't stunt double for this Guy May oh yeah. He did tell her so much to the moral guardians that The doctor Strangelove Shlo- story. which was that he was hanging upside down on on the bomb and Kubrick shooting him and he said he he did about forty takes and he said he threw up slim's he threw off like five times and he said of course Cobra Hughes? I ate one of those actors like Jack Warden. That's incapable bowl of giving a bad performance is always good even in sub par movies. Yeah stick around the one Jack. It is fantastic and you work with warden and so we talk about less than one of our favorites and the funny thing is like Harvey Korman brilliant loose known as like the second banana time and he's like s biggest Khustar as the other two and he gives an amazing. I remember he came in and said they really letting it do this movie. I mean about running re only running red lights and stop sign original choice. Was John John Vida and John. John Jared I guess love and John Kerry. Yeah we had. It was going to play a character named John Kerry. That's funny. We had a guy we call all the men and the Arrow shirt sagay stumbles into the bar. And he's got all these arrows in his back and he falls down own and the line was. We didn't use this line said who did this to you. Saw and the man in the Arrow sure says John Cara Dr Anne any died cut to a shot of all the townspeople going John. Kara Joe and Cleveland Look set. Looks out of the Cameron says and they say my piffle Dome Shot No. We didn't do the various subsidiary character. I talked about bogey and tell us again help cope cowboy named named bogey. Who Mel is GONNA play? Melted melded. Pretty good bogart with the crazy. Is The wet lips in and everytime you cut the campfire bogey. We'll be saying ain't now you had to quarter Strawberry Hoquiam. It was another character called Seidler earlier into the silent. Now's very sneaky. And he died of course willing then sideways and his line mine was. He died like he lived sideways. Ashtray was so that was really a terrorist time. We saw him Harvey Korman's lighting Sconces Ashtray. John Parrott that was thing was drawn guarantees card. Yeah and he disappears this the and the ashtray disappears and and this is small person appears Johnny Polio. Because Mel loved him because he bit people on the Ankle A- and it turned out that ashtray had been hanged but he didn't die and I can't get a wooden conceived in the sky cow describing so real twist said you'd have a hump but in the front. He's a how about this whole thing. Andy and John Carradine communicated ashtray which is rap on his neck Asa Morse code kind of thing and it was a grotesque carry. Wasn't one of my favorite lines. You cut to ashtray in the middle of the prairie wrapping on his neck and John Kerry. Schopenhauer never said that having this. This is Philip. Then we hear that Woody Allen's done this movie called Everything WanNa know about sex and then John Carradine is in it and he has a small person genesis two people could see such a verse. Surreal thing so you see they let us see a couple of reels of everything everything about sex and indeed this giant Karen to look like four hundred years old and this little guy ten John Kerry just kicking chicken this shit out of them. This is horrible. It was terrible. I wanted to get rid of this guy and finally I remember the day we were walking. Ask We can't you gotta let it go. I'd say it was it that would have buried us. Yeah when they're in. The town was named Johnson right but we did not and I fell through the flag on this. This one he said no no Lyndon Johnson why he's not GonNa make it and he was only died out there in seventy three. I said to myself Johnson interview. Listen I think this isn't going to work. I live another year. Didn't yeah love for those inside Jokes Olsen Olsen. And he saw he saw John Carradine in the warner brothers commissary he came back. He said can't do it. Yeah well we had a door where it was John Carradine. He was the solicitor general or something and had all of his his film credits. Yeah Yeah So. Does this exist in some form. Or they're I mean they're obviously the author the other notes or their pages with these with Ashtray. Sure and MEL's record somewhere one hundred sixty page. Wow Wow why did he say John. John Carradine couldn't do it because he looked like he was at death's door. It's just the yeah. The joke would've of him playing playing a character named John Kerry and would have fit perfectly. Because there's so many inside goofy jokes Richard Dix Scott. There's Johnson and the Laurel and hardy handshake. Because tell you I saw the movie. Maybe fifteen times before I ever stopped to get that joke. It was so dense or the Mongo Santamaria till I was in my forties. I didn't know Mongo Santamaria was and the day that that I heard his name in a different context. I said son of a bitch. Some of those joke we wrote it. I still never entirely got it. I said really. That's funny. I remember the Ash. Jim standup comic name Jimmy Martinez. Yeah very good. or The or the uh-huh Andrew outside just said I don't need no stinking coffee offering Alfonso guy on on the line of thugs right the worst people in the worst. Yeah Yeah Yeah I WANNA go back to the writer's room to just if we'll get back to casting but something the what you said you learned in that room specificity. Yeah already writing Gregory Education. which is it's so forget the consonants and the Buick is funnier than Ford? And all that stuff It just one word too many in a in a thing and a joke becomes the sentence it just all the like just just knocked all the air out of it so you learn the poetry learn the yeah it is. It's a scanning of the lines. That's yeah his avoided his timing and hit just his not his name knowledge. I did this a name that he gave me In my favorite year and have a character name rookie Karaka bantamweight boxer and grow character yet. He said and rookie says I said you got you. were beaten by Manny Serpa. He said many Serpa. I took him apart. I turn them into Guava Jelly off all came from those. Those is kind of it was wonderful. And then Mel Brooks said well let the famous line there in the dark madeline UNCON- online and she says you know it's a tool right. That is has got a big penis and what was the line. They cut doubt. It was my arm. We went through a lot of things. Excuse me miss on still sucking. My arm came my elbow on. How Much Vitamin D? I can get my the sausage and the he said he stopped it and that was a surprise to me because I think that would have been maybe for shut but I don't think it would not not in the context. We were in you. Think so do you think audience would have L. Audiences would've Rebelled at that. I don't think so I don't think so. I think sort of the genius of it of having her be a seminar seminars on is the way to actually have an interracial romance and the movie Sub Rosa because she's such a grotesque gautier. Yeah and she's madly in love with them and everybody thought it was great and cut. That just blew away that that barrier in a comic comic way which was quite brilliant. Br He brings her back with the during the fight scenes. She's she's leading the Nazi women. Marlene the Matrix. So at some point Allen who had come in with you your your your writing partner. At the time he left. Yeah Richard was doing a bit of a disappearing act. I know it descends months. Richard just said no six weeks and said that was it was that. Here's like pitcher right. You'RE GONNA get five innings out of what you got the bullpen up and you you know and spoil down at the three of you guys did. Yeah Yeah but as I say richest contribution which was to open the windows and say you know for it go for it. You can do it. He was a predation yes they said you can't afford do this. Movie was enormous And then Norman. I did all the the little stuff off. I mean and big stuff after. It was a lot of lot of Chinese restaurants. Yeah a lot of drafts to go and it was a lot. There's a lot of work because as you know we're getting these things right is is like diamond. You know you're polishing a diamond. What was what was the length of time from the from the moment? You Guys Ballpark from the Ma sat down in the room to you. which turned into Warner brothers a year and a half year and a half? Well I mean the original draft for from when you first sat down together I started thinking. Well I know it was faster. We turn to draft in. Yeah 'cause we went out to April April we turned it we were out in. La In March seventy three or something. Because they started shooting April seventy. Yeah it was. Yeah and Malcolm L. bought that house in West Hollywood and you guys went out there to the do polishes or to work on the casting casting. Yeah Yeah we were working at one or others. Yeah and and writer's building. It's very exciting. Yeah imagine it was great but I was just thinking of a line when everybody is leaving town. Love this line And and they're getting the hell out of town because the towns being terrorized than and it makes us speech you said. Can't you see this is the last act of a desperate man. Man Said Tat's money downs as we don't care if it's the first active Henry the fifth John Very right right so smart so smart and so you guys were involved in early casting you were you. Were there when people walk in the room and did you. Did you have personal suggestions nations. You ever did you. Have you got all this guy in obsessed with slim. 'cause I live worship from originally I believe in in strangelove that sellers elyse. Were supposed to play that guy interesting. And he had his first heart episode of something and Slim wound up playing that guy which makes sense ends if you think about it because you played the Englishman? He played the the strangler. He's also chairman and ran Drei Murph of Merck and Mafi murder murder So it makes sense that he would also put them in there But slim as it gets gives you that western authenticity city suddenly. It's a western. Yeah it is really rides. I mean Cleveland when he comes in tonight horse you just can see the Oculus had said what about Burton. Gilliam Albert Burton Burton was fabulous. Saw Him on What was Lewis Film? Oh He's in paper moon abor money news. Great your three cast members in paper modems. Madeline Senate right. And who's the third person I'm thinking of. Hillerman Senate right. Yeah yeah he was great. One of the townspeople. Oh Yeah John Henry the fourth one. That's him yeah. At Halston David Huddleston such great work. They're not to be the big Lebowski many years later when these guys are sitting there in these guys walk in the room to you just and and you know you've both cast films over the years since the have that moment where you just know. Yeah yeah sure. Yeah you know Cleveland. Yeah precise Cleveland with a I never saw the script uh-huh I sent him because I saw him in a show called. Scooby dooby that preserve and he played this frogman. He was hilarious at. This guy is so funny and so- whippy and so cute And of course you never read the Scriptures along Victoria. Yeah he's great he's Great. Yeah but usually you know I know you just you. Just they walk in. They have or they. Don't you know and of course the most famous scene from blazing saddles the the campfire. How did that come about? It was the other shoe. The other shoe said Campfire and they eating beans. Nobody has red lights and they did. They did a preview in Australia. Really was yeah and they did a Instead of a meal they had a bean dinner in at the beginning of but yeah I mean I think we got just about every every race and we've got the Irish does a great job allston joke about it is so good. You mentioned Peter sellars now this could be bullshit again but did Peter sellars go right ahead. Saying did he read for the busby Berkeley characters. Now there's a lot of urban myths out there about the the making of this. That was promised to dom on you know it must have been Salaam. The twelve chairs they had a pre existing relationship. And he's hilarious. You know someone who's directed you. You really try to work work with people you've worked with before it just it eliminates a lot of intermediate steps you just you know. They're going to say anything. I did the two picks with Nick Cage half third away the first one. I'd have to say anything anymore. You just you know getting getting back to the camp fired sure censor the sound effects. No on on radio and TV the horses naming every time the guys is with like squinting up phases and rising up. You'd hear Horse's name which was completely ridiculous. It's not a movie you should watch on TV. Nowadays it's not all sound effects on the auction. It's so funny that now now it seems like you can't make a comedy without a fart sound effect right and back. Then that was it's like the first performance of The rite of Spring Assumption Revolution. People Culture I could not believe it and after the first four you couldn't hear anything anyone out of their minds. I heard they were saying somebody. Buddy complained that in the making it. The movie that the Farts you are too loud and an empty theater possible the first the first screening when he first screens it for the one or suits. Yeah no mel was there. Okay Okay we saw him afterwards. When he came back to the office he was he was wife? He he didn't know he said I'M GONNA re cut the movie. But we had a screening that night with the warn of the help from Warner brothers and a they went went crazy and the remaining and Melle Mel got up instead of fuck them onwards right and didn't they die. They just fall right off the screen you guys. This wasn't that something you guys comforted yourselves within the writer's room. Nobody's this thing's never gonNA get made. It's never going to get released right right what you want. No I sense it could get made. I'd know what was going to see it. I see and Warner Brothers was confident that nobody's we're GONNA go see right. Yeah Melt- Melt- still remembers the name of the executive that came up to him and said and one of the things that particularly bothered him. Was the Indian speaking. Yiddish Ted. Somebody that Ashley Ashley. You can't release this outside of New York or Los Angeles. It's not gonNA play anywhere air or at least. He says they wanted a dummy. Take the loss. But here's the thing about the Yiddish. Speaking you know obviously was especially joke. I had a friend of mine lives in Portland and he went to see the movie. said he's the only person who left at the here and nobody else but there was so many jokes. I mean there was so much it was such a blizzard of comedy material. Is I talked to so much as any movie. Who is doing a TV series series based on paper Moon in Idaho? They made it into a series. Yeah foster and they're in a theater watching blazing saddles and he hears people in back of him. When when Mel does the Indian and this Guy Guy says to his wife he's speaking sue has consuming now Harvey Korman's character heavily? Lamar of course it take off on the actress. Heady all right. What happened? When she sued she did so she did so she in the film who said what are you worried about? We can sue her. Seventy four and She sued and they come on. It threw it out scarlets scurrilous. I heard Meld Mel Brooks said Just give us the money. She's it said he didn't need the money shoes. She was very rich. It doesn't it. Now and Harvey loved it Harvey the Harvey was so great he just rolled with every punch. What a what a wonderful you know the performance? He's he's he's a he's a terrible terrible human being and he manages to make himself vulnerable ridiculous toyed even though he's just the black hearted scoundrel this. There's there's so much dimension to the character he's just great in those speeches to the wonderful speech. We'll do. Yeah he's he's a Jim. Let's let's let's talk about Madeleine coming into and and again this could possibly be bullshit. She was fired from the movie. Maim bad it's possible. Four into the silent even read speculation that she'd wanted out of May he wanted to work with you guys is so she tanked the performance to get fired now. I don't know if that's true. That's BS that's dubious. She was going going professionals. Yes she was great. Yeah she was just a wonderful woman. That's an incomparable. I know but this is the kind of stuff you read. Does she meant that rumor. No is incomparable. Double Sui Generis has not been like no no you would worked with her before I wear a variety show. My first first time I work with I was on my first show with Bob Clark. Robert Klein called comedy tonight. and I they wrote a great sketch for her while she was doing a Marlene Dietrich Cartoon and wrote a song called and in day a garbage at supper club and surrounded by the Weimar Germany and and then I worked the last show that she ever did which was cosby and She was fabulous. She was just. She was dying and the She worked through and she is just as she was just this wonderful free. Soul and impure instinctive talent. She's great and everything every grade and and paper moon and she's great in in in I- anxiety us US never again one of those people that just can't give a bad performance Because it's always comes from an angle you quite expecting you know. And even the one after Cleveland leaves and she's Oh don't go shots and he goes. I gotta get some vitamin E.. Goes out and she falls against the door and says but a nice guy ask hugging herself decade. It was her line. I don't WanNA leave out for her performance in young Frankenstein tumor she just she just electric. They was a funny honey story. I heard that All of you like Mel Brooks who Stephanie. And then the commissary and you ran into John Wayne Yeah Mel supposedly ass John Wayne Possible. I've heard that yeah a great sense of humor. He said they she also said he heard openminded. He heard in this new movie that they're going to have the align blow it out of your ass Mel Brooks said. Do you want to be in. The pitcher goes well. I won't be in it but I'll the first one to see it well. Well that's a good story wasn't the first one to see if there's so many apocryphal story about the making a it never happened. BS BCS yeah. Yeah I gotta just. This is a tiny Parker's we're talking about actors and small parts and I WANNA ask about Alex Karras. Bob Ridgely doing the hangman. Karloff attributed to attack the Tower of London a favorite of ours. We had the child star from. I'm Dot Tower of London on this podcast. Dining dunnigan is the boy from from son of Frankenstein still alive and living in Dallas. But I mean even the smallest mall est part or George furth who who maybe has or Dom deluise wife Carol. Arthur does the the the number one asshole in the State Eh. Something wonderful out of the littlest moments road. Yeah and and the beauty of the hangman is hanging guy in a wheelchair. Yes US talk about -gistically very do that in a wheelchair. Is this this guy with a beard. Nuts Dr Golez back yeah what a reference and Liam. Am done to answer did that. Oh he was. He was great but in delivering that speech. He was making Matthew Nath you Mark Luke and duck and duck and he after he finished a take it he was a gay man he said who who is he was horse and he said. Does anyone have a rectal. Mike US Awesome Great This is a question about Richard to Was it just the drugs. Was it just that. Oh he was he was radioactive or was it was it. The Warner Brothers. Couldn't see a guy like this. Who who put the N.? Word on his album. Titles I think thing face of one thing that I think you had a reputation for occasionally slugging a director too I it is Is last albums albums had bombed. He wasn't like a hot commodity right And he was thrilled. He was thrilled to to get the get get the role because when I spoke to him he was breathless. I said To to write on it. Yeah he said would would you Would you WANNA come to New York and work with Mel Brooks. His and he was bill brew. He couldn't even get broke. Saudi Brooke Yeah. He was he was in awe of Mel. And so and Mel wasn't all him that the what. What a brave lenny? Bruce and then go to work with them late in his life. On one of the I wilder picture was going to be the last of the Asia terrible movie but what I found with him as I I just walked on the set and he came over to me and he treated me like he was some little kid meetings the biggest comic comic. Oh Nice and he knew everything I did. I'm sure he was really complicated. Dude and a lovely beneath all the stuff he was just a lovely human being. I remember he said to me. Goes Your Super Lupu funny. It's like even if you don't WanNa be funny you're GonNa be funny and I thought wow I couldn't and get the last time I saw him. I was talking to him about this Casa Blanca idea. I think at the end he ms was so great to see him and have been you know fifteen years he said you know. I don't remember anything from that. Not not known. He said that's the worst by just. It's a blank unbelievable. I'd never met the men. Obviously but you can see as edgy as performances. Are you could see. The sweetness is something along the traveling all stars movie and And silver streak and you could see the the warmth in the man comes. In his performance. There was nine years old. Always a kid. It comes through in those early standup specials to the genuine sweetness to them inside the darkness. He said he said something to me. Gave me some advice and he said enorm- if you're ever in prison said Yell you have to you have to go to the shower after shower. Don't put no towel around you. I said why is that. He said 'cause they'll think you're hiding something good Good invasion couple of quick questions for. Are you guys from from a previous guests that we've had on this. Show your friend Phil Rosenthal. Yeah Where everybody loves Raymond Creator wants to know Richard Pryor specific it contributions this civic controversial? You guys this is. Why is there a written part of this exam? No you know that we. We had a rule that nobody took credit for anything. That's my joke. That's N- and I don't think any of us ever did no and there was all this mythologised or he wrote all. The MONGO suffers. Yeah everybody says he wrote a lot of the Mongo stuff only pam pawn and game of life. But who remember. Oh you guys. Don't tell you okay. That was was not that it it was really the United think our members Pacific lines are open. It's it's yeah but differences that blurs. Yeah Yeah and wasn't it that it was so crazy in the right is is room. You don't know if it was you shouting. It's the game of telephone. It's it goes around around and comes back that's it you know after time in the room. Did you notice that you you guys. All developed a different kind of get a little smoother. was there a different kind of system there. The system was this woman trying to get all the stuff straight you described it as being a Marx brothers was wonderful. Oh and this goes back to the. There's No red red lights we're trying to figure out whether it be named Duane Earl and I said how about the world am millicent. He acted twirl account. Poke stress doing fancy it was in it was in girl that was it hilarious. Haven't made either World Michael Weber Norman who's also he. He wrote five hundred days of summer. He's been he's been on this show he said I have hundreds of questions but they're all about yes giorgio he's he's no friend of ours touche. Michael Yeah Andrew's friend. Beverly the Angelo was here a couple of weeks ago. I have no questions sounds but I love Andy and I can't wait to work with them again. Let's lover all jazz. Great Yeah she was pretty body on this show. She has welcomed at she. Has that streak last. But not least treat Williams Says he wants you both know that. He's deeply offended by the farting seen. Okay okay I respect them some intestinal issues there anymore brand of stories. Remember how you started at last brand store. Oh yes that that Brando fucked Richard Pryor and that was his icebreaker down room for one. Minute came back gasping. Come back I take a punch. Yeah that's based on a Quincy Jones. Something Quincy Jones said last here when I don't know maybe he's not with it anymore. Why would you fuck Ritchie prior? When he had wally Cox go I read the blazing saddles for for what this is worth? Michael Bloomberg's favorite movie. Have you heard Mayor Bloomberg. Yes yeah yeah. And it's a favourite of Barack Obama's I already did movie Everson. Yes Sir yes. He gave him That that award you know the citizenship absolutely and and MEL is I saw him now. I'm surprised he showed up for that but he did a little bit about the reception exception to. Because I've heard you talk norman about seeing lines around the block and going in when it was finally released and you saw you were wandering down east side or yeah and also gone. Yeah but I also saw it in mid town and was it the roxy will originally. We were originally. We were just two theaters in La and and at the Sutton and a friend the mine worked in that building a sudden was he worked at some company and he called me like noon on the first day. He said there's a line anthem the block. I said he was serious. Thought was never gonNA grab believable. Yeah Madeline Kahn's mother lived in that neighborhood and she would go into the Sutton theater every day the clicker comedy times. Is You guys. Go in and see it with an audience against and now It's happened many times over the years. Obviously as it's as it's trotted when it first came out I would you know get chummy with the people to set in Samoan going for ten minutes because you want to hear that you wanted to reward option you know Laughs will coming mentioned Incheon. No it's just I I may have seen it fifteen times. The Sutton said walk home from past the theatre and years later we you showed it at Radio City did some tribute to Old Warner Brothers pictures and they asked nominated to speak at the at radio city musical and they screen the movie in the six thousand people people and was the same thing in a second greatest hits out every here it comes you know watching it again last night too and you know this this is one of the things that it sticks with you is not only is it funny but it's it's it's a very very broad comedy that's about something it's about an idea there have been funny movies like airplane and Young Frankenstein can Stein is brilliant in its own way as well but this is a movie that that that it has I don't WanNa make it sound too high Falutin but it's it's it's it's making a statement about the history of this country and certainly the history of race relations in this country that we're not that far removed from that we think though we think we are it it it it tears it. This is the American myth that the West was was settled by white heroes as instead of on the backs of immigrants. It's got a lot to say. It's courageous it does. And and it's It's a love affair after all of a sudden between these characters and it wasn't that's that's the the beauty of those two performance. Because you really do believe those guys yeah have a real affection for each other. That never seen a better buddy relationship on screen and the ending surreal where they escape from the movie. Plus drive me off this film and you know just the the limo that all that the the count basie stuff and basis stuff. It's just great. I just WanNa read you guys a quote from a website about the movie. This is interesting The language the writers using blazing saddles has been culturally truly shamed out of the national lexicon in small part because of art like blazing saddles which aggressively shamed and marginalized anyone who acted in in such a way. This is written who it's for. It's on a website called den of Geek which is actually a pretty smart website about about filmmaking. It's it's interesting that did you know you're supposed to be in a post racial age after you after this whole thing. It's it's you know we've had we had rod serling daughter here and we were talking about the twilight zone. And what a wonderful job. He always did of putting outing important information into entertainment. And in that case in science fiction you know the monsters are due on Maple Street then if you on episode on American inactive all of that stuff being done as a as a science fiction in theology series you guys manage to do the same thing with comedy. Maybe the broadest comedy comedy ever made that has a theme of and an ideology at something. That's important and and were saying that that's one of the reasons. I don't think the films ever going to know go out of style forty five years and decided yet. It's not going to so I just you know mel goes around the country and radio. The radio city does every every time he goes. Jason where it sells out and you can track the laughs and it's and it's a revelation it's it's fresh it's new and and and there are new audiences. Yeah that's the thing. Yeah and even in seventy four. There was a lot going on when you guys were writing it. I mean Nixon Watergate did not happen jetton. The the southern strategy was still alive. Dr King had just been killed. What seven eight years? Before so on some level it must have occurred. The guy's not only we making king a this is a question not only. Are we making crazy comedy. That's that's offensive but we have a responsibility here. No Oh you didn't know I thought well that's what the movie was. The movie was about that how do you how do you make it funny and still about that. Does it get in your way if you think about. That is the way the funding absolutely yeah. You can't second guess yourself. I WANNA know why we're not being interviewed by Jon. MEACHAM it's important. It's an important movie it is it is I. Don't WANNA I don't WanNa miss you guys you guys remember somebody named Ralph Manza Ralph Manza down now. Monza I bring this up. Not moms are no. I was working on a terrible Sitcom in the nineties. He walked in to audition and I recognized awesome immediately and I got up and I said you're Ralph Manza and he'd be you know a working character actor Had never been recognized by name only face and he was thrilled that somebody for the first time news name. Because I'm so obsessed with blazing saddles Hitler in the commissary. He loves me after the A bunker seen any picture that is involved in that has to be on. Course Ralph Manza make it possible that Oh make it possible for this Joe Joe Rabbit. That's interesting. That's an interesting question. Yeah Yeah maybe see now that that film is is coming out. And we're supposedly living in in a in a climate where there's no room for that movie and yet did did he ever tell Frankie Laine that that that he was singing. The Frankie Laine voters doing a hit single which he was a great great song. You WanNa ask these guys anything else gill before we let them. We let Norman Dry off. Yeah Dreidel title everything we've brought up on Chiro bunked Andrew was going to tell us why he chose the pseudonym Warren Bogle for For big trouble. Well we're GONNA my name on that the first thing to be substituted them after wreaked reeks. God no WC fields used. They named Charles seat Bogle and a bunch of scripts that he wrote because he he wrote on stuff but it didn't use his his name and use the name Charles Bogle so I just switched draws to warn I thought was hip. Or that's only for the. It's a cliche a real good with you when you left your last time. You didn't tell us any James Caan or burt reynolds stories. The quick even just a thought or a quick memory. James Jimmy Khan really had I'd like stage fright and he worked at the last possible second. You know this is honeymoon vague Vegas and he's always those shitting and he's a great bullshitter and and talk to talkie tell dirty jokes to just schmooze and I realized I would have to walk with him and listened and I would walk with him walk with them and work with them until we got to wear the the shot that was going to be and then he realized it was all set up. He said you son of a bitch. There was no way I was waiting by the camper. You're fifty other stories about you know Godfather Gray all we gotta get him on here. Phil and Phil is one of about the start of first table reading of Godfather. He says it's a start and Mona's first line and mom's like nobody here where you're saying and and it's mom Brenda so now. The other actors just all mumbling three hours and Francis and a lot of great stories. Yeah he did an interview review recently with Alec Baldwin on his PAS. Oh have to listen. Yeah junior yeah yeah yeah worth listening to what about. I'm going to throw one at you. Norman you worked on a show called the Bay City Amusement Company yes. I found pat McCormick's naming the cast the cormack. I think he was wonderful. He he was. He played one of the riders so it was a it was a Saturday night. Live tight situation and in San Francisco and I found somebody brought me this guy they said you gotta see this guy we were looking for the for the say that the head writer the head sketch player and he said this this kid you got to see him and he comes in Robin Williams. Wow and he just exploded and I I called we will in Burbank Bank and I called. NBC I said I have him. I have the character. I'M COMING DOWN I. We were there in a half our. He was brilliantly funny. They asked him to step padded room and they said Too Crazy aw next thing which was dumber they said. Why don't you do it? You know all the words to you. Yeah and I I digress but Pat McCormick came in the first day. I remember remember I joke. Is He sues waving piece of paper. He said I got my license. I can shit in St. There's a television tower. And then the second thing he said he sat down and he said Oh I have lenny Bruce's old typewriter. It has four extra F Senate funny. We've heard a lot of stories about him on this. Show his putting his newborn baby on a platter right at at a Party and putting Dr Arnn assure rounded overrun he was a Harvard graduate. Drove around in a Red Rolls Royce. Yes and he ended up in the writers guild home any out in Supposedly rooming with Stan lead Stanley Kramer Kramer and so Jack Riley came in and he said to pet. I see finally got a meeting. That's good imagine living in an old writers scariest thing I ever heard of. Couldn't sleep with one eye open. You have one more question for each of you Tammy Rogers and he re ringing bells. You worked with Timmy. Rogers on a show called the wonderful world of aggravation with Kauffman. Randal this anything holy moly. That's now Larry Storch Allen King. Yeah November Salihi Jonah. Forget that okay down king by the way yeah. Calvin king was a loved him because he loved is writers and he any own part of I think he owned the eastern distribution for Tanqueray. Gin Jesse had some mm-hmm Booze Connection WanNa tell these guys your your own king story it's worth it I remember there. Were some big show. Big Comedy Show at Lincoln Consent there and he was the MC and He introduced me. I went out and I was out there and like jeans and a sweatshirt and sneakers as as. I'm walking off the inches applauding Alan King goes back up to the MIC. Looks at me stares at me and then looks at the crowd and he goes or no come up on stage. H my hair's combed and my suit is price my shoes Shine line and then he walks out looking like you rolled around the shit. I I the grades folks. I want to tell our listeners. If you haven't seen Norman's wonderful movie my favorite year what are you waiting for. By the way we've had we had you. We had macy here. We had Richard Benjamin here. We have put the word out about this wonderful movie but we are now developing developing TV series based wonderful. Yes Barry Levinson. Tom Fontana but you couldn't get to better guys the grades one. What a fantastic movie many levels we also have to recommend? We didn't talk about the in laws. But you know that we could do. We do whole episodes about these wonderful movies if our listeners. If you haven't seen the in laws what are you waiting for What are you doing listening to this? Show and Andrews wonderful it can happen to you which I think of as the best frank CAPRA rapper. Movie that he never made bless your heart. Yeah it's great. It's a great Valentine to this city we all we all We all live Kevin. That's all I got killed. Yeah Oh you WanNa tell Norman about cosby in the Asian models. We can get Outta here last time. Suing John macgyver. Imitate John macgyver. Boss fever you from the schedule we do slack of this company. They liked the ship. My favor sick just sick and Peter Laurie yes. I were so perverse. Nobody does John. macgyver didn't do it then. Bill Cosby story is the writers of the Cosby Show told told me that he had an hour set apart in the schedule and the day where it. He teaches comedy to Asian modeled his own cosby's cosby intensive intensively. Say explains why you see so many assembly they by Asian media. That comedy clubs are packed with Asian. I got in trouble. We had griffin done here and I did not ask any questions about Johnny Dangerous. Had lunch with Griffey's best. He's really he's this is us now. Yes he's he is is a stuff. Yeah he's great so my fans our listeners will get mad at us if we don't if I don't ask one johnny dangerously story Was it based loosely based on Manhattan Melodrama Melodrama Gable William Powell no no not at all that guy named Bud Lawson who's head of paramount television said hey you did blazing saddles. Why not do blazing Tommy guns and that? That was the was it that was what a cast in that moving moving great great. It was a lot of fun and You know it's a it's resonates on. They tell me on social media breath too big. Yeah big on after me not asking Johnny by the way Andrew since you were last here The the stories of the brand phone call levels the our our listeners. I'll L. Send you more. I'm still getting married about tuna fishermen fish one had to be there the whole. Well sure this was fun. This was a lot of fun so easy to interview you guys and talk to you and we're we're sorry. Nothing that we said was true. I think it's better that way. If it was true the president got you'll come back. We have a million more questions. The buzzer on cleese and and and Joe Bologna and so much so much stuff. We can go on for hours. And this has been Gilbert Godfrey Amazing Colossal Muscle podcast with my co host. Frank Santo Padre and our return guests Andrew Bergman and Norman Norman Steinberg who among a million other credits help right the film blazing saddles which is celebrating reading. Its forty fifth anniversary. You guys have officially been friends for forty five years. We have pretty good morning. Seven years more than mountain forty. We met in seventy two. You throw a great party too. By the way we're older gentleman older gentlemen Jewish Mannheim the approaching middle. We love talking to you guys. Thanks for schlepping out in the rain. Yeah Yeah enough step up talk. Yeah he was the God is so th these are that men on fire I have. This is power loaning noon and night and then seeing some quick man thing and then show our stage Giannis constantly. They always home with one week. Satisfy last habit I am not the rabbit. I need some uh eh tie thick nick and I love I had my fill of love from below and I love on inspired. Let's face uh-huh I been with thousands of again and again they promise delays coming and going and going and coming to. I'm I'm playing a crying. Shame the same source cowboy. And what's your name taxman tax man tell me tax them all you in show business. Don't you get your wiggins. beat the You spent a ten gallon hat just enjoying the show It off cry and a AH time Yeah no she's is based I love the way again again. Let's face it everythin- below the waist is Bud uh-huh.

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A sexy Vicar and a saucy minx

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A sexy Vicar and a saucy minx

"At the movies with arch Enam is on the weekly entertained with podcasts featuring an for today's senior film critic of the Washington Post and me arch Campbell, veteran TV news, movie guy, missing an action, but back in the fold, I recognize that voice. Careful is your announcer reminding you, this is your announcer. Boots I know coming in here like a cowboy trip. I love it. Welcome back, man. Thank you so much. Yeah. Was all by motorcycle. That's right. Mark stern, aka Nigel on the Tony Kornheiser show is poking fun at me and joins us, no, not poking fun at, you know. Listen, you got to drive through Texas, and I know we're gonna hear a little bit more about this. I just the the very idea of that road trip just I love it. I love everything about it and I love that you do this later on. I'm going to tell you why I love road trips and I I drove sixteen hundred miles to San Antonio and sixteen hundred miles back and and I'm gonna tell you what I do on a road trip. That applies to this podcast. Excellent. But I drink heavily, is that what you do on the road? Dakhari standing the Anna, the first minute you cross that line do really decorate STAN across used to. They used to have them. I don't know if they. Guess stace drive-thru Dachary, right? Yes, stations, real have discount liquor stores and and discount beer shops. And also they advertise, Buddha, oh yes. I know what Buddha my hand is blood. Dan blows. For me? Yes. Station louisi- waiver before you eat it. L. e. era nearest embarrassed. Get your car. What I I and Hornets tells me she was a baby, sitter in nineteen seventy eight. The original, our women not nineteen seventy eight. No, Jamie Lee. Curtis returns as a gun toting Remm determined to wipe out the Michael Myers guy, even if he did launch your career and make her rich. But here we go with how weaned, the reboot. This final this time to tell you. As somebody I heard some leaving the it last night dead. Dead. Kids favorite line. Dad. Great meaning for you. Right. You know, I did babysit during the seventies. I'm a little bit younger just for the record. Nobody do. The math won't be. I was of that cohort that that movie, you're not how some movies just lodge into your cells because they speak to you on some cellular level of your era there of your personal time. I related so much to her character because she was not really a nerd, but she wasn't, but she wasn't a fast girl either. She wasn't like one of the cool kids. She was just this really normal high school student who took her studies pretty seriously. She was, you know, she wasn't a, she wasn't like a little little Manx. You know what I mean? She just assoc- makes us sexy my for them, but I just, I loved her character so much Laurie strode and the wages yet she was relatable is what I'm saying. And so and then the whole babysitter scenario was very personal and very vodka, tive and visceral for me and I, we were talking off Mike Earl. Earlier about the whole slasher genre, which I've never been a fan of, but this is the one exception. I'm gonna make a movie that just kind of got me on all those. You think the audience really was teenage girls instead of teenage boy, it's interesting because I noticed I don't know about your screening last night. My screening was mostly men, so I don't know. What do you think demographically? Well, I mean, number one, I think the original Halloween really started a trend in films which share its own sub genre within har-. You know, I mean that that absolutely spawned Friday. The third. Yep. The original was quite good, and then it spawned nightmare on elm street, which the first one was also knew, you know, and we think now they remained at eight or ten time, but those originals were original xactly arch, and then they ate it. And then the quintessential honor is to be parodied like with scream was the alternate kind of imprimatur of like, yes, this is a cultural moment. So. So like starting Holloway, it started with Halloween from? Well, yes, that Johner. You're right, that sub-genre of team. I think before then psycho, like you could say. Aiko sorry film, but this start of the teen, you know that that team, it was a part of that whole John us moment in terms of discovering teens as rediscovering teens market. But to me, this is truly the sequel. It was none of those other sequels or Halloween we're could claim because they didn't have Jamie Lee says this story direct connection or act. And I think they did a really good job. I really do Jamie. Lee's character in the in the sequel has paid a psychological price for what happened to her forty years ago. Now, that's that's an interesting place to go. Well, you know, it's interesting to watch that movie and I couldn't not watch it without recent events in my brain about trauma about women confronting their trauma and sharing their trauma shore and us understanding as a culture how that works in the brain body. And I think she's playing all of those notes and this is an extreme version of it. She's kind. Barricaded herself. She's become Gora phobic and she's kind of outfitted her house in a way that you know, it's, it's like a surveillance state unto itself with all these cameras, and she's armed heavily armed. But I mean, you know, there's, she also I don't know if it was Jamie Lee who started the term final girl. You know the final girl, everyone. If he's the one left standing, the one that the killer really wants and the other seventeen exactly killed having sex. Right. And so here she's the ultimate final girl, and I was thinking of, you know, people in the news recently as our final girls like the ones that are left standing to Shay, this is what happened to me and this cannot this cannot stand unless it can. Sometimes it does, but no, I thought it was very effective. See, I thought it did. It did everything right? There was a lot of humor in it, which I enjoyed. I loved any McBride had his hands. Cried as a producer, David Gordon green wrote and directed it, and I bring back some of the original other actors from nineteen seventy eight will let Hatton that's very smart. They did. They. Kale margin a really nice way to to the to the original. I thought it is. It is. There is lots of blood and killing more than used to be seven. You know, you could count seven bodies, and I lost count after seven, and they were dispatched with just increasingly disturbing. Into in disturbing ways, particularly went after podcast. Yes. What my. I going say that for my final line. Truth be told. I did not get to see this could have seen it last night. What were you doing Mark? What else was going. The movie, I and true love the boss read. Five and the screening was at seven thirty initially said the different kind of slasher. But I was like, oh yeah, I'll just leave halfway through and all the rest of it. And I was like, you're not gonna do this, like he ain't a, you're not to do that. So ain't doing that. So with our spoiler alert spoiler alert podcasters get knife eight. There is a monthly riff about kind of like cereal. You know, all of these murders. Cast plays a role in this in a very clever way. Yeah, there's a lot of clever twists and Judy Greer plays her daughter. And who's also been marked by this and whose life was was, was completely consumed by it and changed by and there's a granddaughter. So there's this wonderful sort of matriarchal line of fierce women. You know. Watch? Yes. Quick fan of three generations that and it's poised to be of this year's version of it. As far as audience goes, it'd be huge, huge. Oh, yeah, clearly did the audience. Enjoy it last night. All. Yeah, I got good vibes. I mean, it was if they didn't go crazy. Like because this premiered in Toronto, man, the the buzz was really good. I mean, people were like God that was so good and so much, but you'd see you gotta be careful of that festival bubble because I was expecting this wild reception. It's like, but I think people, especially people who really enjoy that franchise and love that I won it completely punches all the boxes. You know, I mean, I think it does a very good job with everything. She's amazing. My view is good enough. Good enough. Good enough. Can I ask one question to you and this is a buck as you were babysitter back in the day, the other, the movie, and all I saw was the ad for this thing actually saw the movie, the ad scared the crap out of me so much. Have you checked the children and then it's like the killers inside the house because that's all about a babysitter totally. And I've ever seen that with my my, my brother, we looked at that and we just ran out of the naming by the time I came straight. What is that called? Stranger. What's the name of the movie? Oh, what a stranger this critical. That's what it is. Yeah. When scream sort of did. And when Halloween came out, I was out, I was out of the babysitting racket by them because I had already gotten a job job. You know what I mean? So I was that that was my. I went from my Halloween phase to my high fidelity. I should do that. I should just do like my life as a movie. Halloween could probably do that. Actually, I was already starring in hyphen. My hours. Much safer? Yes, much safe. Turns out back, but so so I didn't have because, but you're always a little bit and we're going to talk about it. I really talk about other hor speaking of scream. When I saw scream, I was living in Austin, and I had a house out by the lake. It was dark and I had forgotten. You know, I would usually if I had a screening at night, I would remember to keep the porch, light honor have a couple of lights on that day. I had forgot. And I had to drive into that driveway. It was pitch black in the middle of the woods out by lake Austin, and I haven't even though scream is funny and it took the it had it was scary to in the dark when you're by yourself. Scary. And that was the first scream, so I hadn't put a. Yeah, I had a moment. Ladies and gentlemen. I had a moment out of that driveway as a grown woman. I was a little bit freaked while I'm susceptible. You know, we all are. So I think it's a horror movie for people who don't like are movies you think Halloween is? I would like to see Rosemary's baby again and see. I. 'cause I wonder how it holds up. I remember being just thoroughly creeped out by that. I feel like I watched that recently in it does hold up hold up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, with Gordon. And then of course, the original exorcist that went downstairs growl well, and you know, with. Both of those and with Halloween to one of the things I appreciated about how lean last night was the score that John carpenter music that he wrote, which was so simple and kind of tinny away a little bit. You know, it's just a little since Trach right on the edge of cheesy fitness. Perfect. Sown s? Yes, yeah. And it's this conic it really is. It was the runner up for the song this week. I'll just say that. I'm wondering last night I was like, I wonder if if Mark will put that, but it would be hard to kind of do a needle drop that made any kind of sense. Yeah, it's just it's sort of just over and over again, but as a soundtrack theme, I mean, that's really it's one of the most iconic horror movies really good, and they used it. I thought it really, really well. So what's your favorite harvey'll? Yeah, we all liked it last year. I loved it. I see through and I was thinking about this when we were talking about, you know, we're talking about Halloween before before the show started, and I realized, okay, the Red Sox gave me an excuse, but Asher movies. I'm not. It's not my bag baby. You know, I just jump scares and I just because I see it coming. We all do. Don't go. The guy leaves the truck right. The guy is son or driving better, go and see what's going on the whole on. Grownup stuff. There's one and it's not really a horror movie, but there's a couple in the sound. The song of the day is going to relate to one of my favorite horror movies. I'll save that for then, but the one that came to my mind and it's because it's from my well, my youth, I should say my childhood, but the lost boys of always love that movie. I love that. You know, I don't know. I don't know why, but really love that because it's not. It's funny enough that it's not quite as scary, but there's a few scary moments, but I just, you know, I for some reason that stuck in my head. I mean, you could go way back the show we talked about the shining is the one that scares the. That's the one where I'm like, I just can't sit down. You're the exorcist, you know those. Those are the one I saw the shining they had played the, here's Johnny clip so much that it was that it didn't have any power, you know, that wasn't when he's freaking out. And again spoiler if you haven't seen it, but that wasn't the scary part. For me. It was the two little girls. Don't explain that enough and it's so random creepy that that's the thing that everything's show up in it, don't they? Well, there's little now. There's there's little girls little girls in it and the little boy. His brother is at the beginning. Yeah, that's yeah. Sean. Yeah, and it it Hawkins back to it. But to this day, if I'm in an apartment complex or a hotel and I look around for, I'm kidding a big win again. I know. I know so brilliant, but lost boys for me because I can. I like to laugh and I can laugh a lot in that one. That's good. How about you? How are you. Well, like I say, my favorite horror film is the exorcist, the exorcist one that's still creeps me out and I get creeped up when I look at those steps and Georgetown by the way, do you know? And this is so inside local, the gas station. That's right. And the left of that gase should be taken down now. I, I think probably putting up more apartments there so we may lose the exorcist steps. Really. Declare some kind of landmark or something. There was some discussion of the exorcist steps recently. I hope we don't use them and it's a cool thing. I've, I've run the stairs once in a while when I'm feeling. Yeah, it's it's a really cool thing, but those the house at the top, they've had to erect a big brick wall overrun of it because so many people, you know, look in and throw stuff at it like holy water. But yeah, the extra jumping. Yeah, that's. One kind of a cool thing like it's like I like it when we're in in December, you get all the great holiday movies, you know, they're always on TV all the ads for him. So I like this. I like this time of year. Well, let's let's also remember the mummy originally took the well. Well, this brew. Original arts. Did you hear that posters for sale urge. I heard that got a Kickstarter campaign. Kickstarter. One. Frame. Yeah, because framework Michael's. Again. As an original, you know, the originals we honor the original, of course that was so original because it was about him and his soul mate. Yes. How had a connection to him -solutely. So the basics as the fundamentals is say, the mummy, we're not talking about the Tom Cruise movie from about the nineteen thirty two. Yes. Boras the only one, the older mummies, mummy, mummy. The mummy of a mummies shall we talk about. Beautiful boy. I was very much looking forward to this Steve Carell who is really turned into such a good actor Denison grad along very happy to have EuroPol Timothy shallow. Matt is my I still have never. I don't think I've ever met the young man, but but you like his work. Call me by your name. Van also Mara. Yeah, and they, she is the stepmother and he is the father of child of a young man who gets addicted to drugs and the family tries to deal with the addiction. And it's based on a book by a writer whose name I don't. Chef is actually two bucks. It's based on both the each of them wrote a memoir, Nick chef and his dad, David, and they, this is sort of an allegation of both memoirs apparently, and. I would not recommend anyone. I it's hard is in the right place and I just got worn out by it. And then I was disappointed in the ending and the end because they didn't quite. They to me, they weren't able to tie it together. So they did that. Worst thing you can do a movie, they go to black, and then they start throwing all these words up there. All these sentences, all these stats, which to me undermines the experience of you. If you can experience that, what do you need all of this stuff for it was. I would not recommend found it hard to deal with and contradictory. Yep, that's a good point. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't really like it much either. Although I do think shall amaze performance is amazing. In case there was any doubt. He's a good actor. I think this will put any not that there should be any doubt, but he really elevates what's there. And I don't think what's there is like you said, I thought it was repetitive, and it's just a study in misery, and I gotta tell you as much as I do admire Steve Carell for what he's done in terms of stretching. I don't. This was a good performance. I just don't think that I don't think the character suited his range limited after all, which is perfectly fair. But. It's just didn't think it was his strongest went from like to do eleven. Yeah. And again, it was repetitive and it was cyclical and it's just it's just watching very difficult situation kind of cycle cycle through. And you know the filmmaker tries to kind of. Earn interest by scrambling, the timeframe and doing lots of kind of visually pretty things, but it doesn't really do anything to change the fact that this is just a, you know, it's it's, it's a story. We all know way too many Americans, no way too well, but it just didn't offering thing new. And honestly, I don't wanna give anything away, but the fact that the that the young man did write a memoir should tell you something. Which is good news, but I wanted a little bit more about how he, you know or why just like what? Yeah, I just needed some more other than just watching it happen. I needed more insights into what were what were the motivating factors both in terms of the addiction, and ultimately, you know, maybe getting free of it, you know? So I just, yeah, I wanted more. And since we're going there, I was thinking, will he turned his sons pain into copy? Well. Yeah, how the sun felt about, you know? Well, yeah. I mean, I do think there's an interesting sort of subtext of the whole thing, which is that this dad, you know, he was a writer for Rolling Stone. He's hip. You can tell that he raised his kid to be cool. You know, it's like you're going to know all the right music, and you're going to have all the right taste and all the right things. And part of the part of his reaction to the diction is wait a minute. This isn't the script, you know you're supposed to do this dabbling potus. Okay. I did drugs. I'm hip. I'm cool. But this is this is going. You can tell he's been projecting his own ego onto this kid, his life, and that's part of the issue. And I did think that was an interesting sub theme. You know, I thought that was really fascinating because I think we all tend to do that. With parenting? Well, as not a parent, but I would think, yeah, like I'm gonna make you be the cooler version of myself. I'm such a cool dad mom that you won't possibly perfect for you screw me over, you know. So I loved that part like I thought that actually, but they didn't really. I almost felt like it was accidental. You know, like they didn't really dove into it with any kind of just I would not work. I wouldn't either arch by the way Timothy shallow may just to give you an update on what's coming out for him next. Yeah, the king he plays king Henry the fifth, David Michaud if I'm. Then, and this is next year then Little Women directed by Greta gerwig. Oh, good. And then this is not they've concluded principal photography in this, but a rainy day in New York directed by Allen apparently shelved show. That's last I heard was that they are not going to be releasing that. Well, there you go, but if you're at, you know what really termi not turn me around on him. I thought I've always thought he was gifted, but there was, I think we talked about this on an earlier pod was there's a little movie called miss Stevens that I think is available on streaming, check it out on Amazon and or net flicks if you can. It's called miss Stevens with lily Rabe who I think is fantastic. I wanna see her more often. She plays a high school drama teacher who takes a troupe of her kids to a drama competition and Timothy Shalam is one of these kids and his performance within the performance is one of the best things I've ever saw. It is really amazing. I've read about. To get the shirt ever did. It says I'm looking here on a limited release in September of two thousand sixteen definitely available on check it out. It's a really neat little movie and he is he is superb. Dow two things. I was gone two weeks longer. It really does. Part of my plan. You can't miss me if I don't go. No, no. And I started talking about a star is born all month before it opened, and because I had the wonderful experience that screening where George Stevens junior interviewed Bradley Cooper afterwards and George was just snowed. I think by the old school techniques of star is born. And then of course, I heard your podcast talking and talking and talking about it, and it seems to have hit a nerve that that story seems to risen, seem skeptical though. I love the old school touches. I loved lady Gaga who is so fascinating. And so a charismatic and I love the closeups of the of the story. I think the second half doesn't carry the way the first half. Yeah, that they knew I was when I was on my road trip. I was thinking, well, you know, I like the Judy Garland version because in her life she was both characters. Yeah, really good. Yeah, yeah, you're right. She really was. He was the rising star and then she was the falling stuff. Depend. I don't know. I'm just I'm interested that it's hidden nerve and I liked it enough. It's not my favorite movie this year, but. You know, I salute when something strikes the nerve and this certainly has. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's really special. I still, I still love it. Yeah, for me, the the measure for me of great movie is if it stays with me, not just the next, but even resonates a few days after that. And this is like two weeks after I was still rolling through the artistic debate that was throughout the film and and just certain moments in it just when it when it sticks with me like that, that that to me, that's my own bellwether for well, I also, I think they were very smart to bring it out early. You know, do the test screenings like a month before, and and I don't think there was an embargo. I mean, I think they were just throwing it out there. Tell us what you think right? Yeah. And and I think that's, that's a smart get that were smart going and the music. I think the fact that the music is good on its own album is selling, and that shallow song is just it's just. Transcends the movie and so that that just adds to the mystique and the allure and that kind of popular will. The song to that is, I guess, Jackson main Bradley, Cooper's character, Jack, and means like signature hit ROY. Maybe it's, oh, yeah, let the all time die. They never play that in its entirety. You really only see like a verse of that. Like when he's up, he liked picks guitar at the. The whole song in that if he did, I don't remember it. I need to go back and watch it. But I, I have downloaded that song and listen to maybe about fifty thousand times which one is the Jason is song. Do we have to look that up? I meant to look at, but anyway, I think they did a really cool job with the music as I did with Juliet naked. I think both are good examples of music centered movies that really did the music, right? You know, I wish Joe Juliet naked, I think, is out of theaters now it may be streaming and the crab. What agree now? I just it's a crush. I wanna summer crush you'll see it other movie. I was really looking forward to is I man. And as you know, I was gone the last couple of weeks. So I went to a retail screening at a Cineplex in San Antonio, regular civilian. I wanna be a fly on that wall quarry of Senna plex. I think it's got sixteen theaters in it and the three o'clock matinee was eight dollars and eleven cents. And here's what I want to remind us. Did you do like Harvey Korman and blazing saddles student, fair. I'm sorry. I didn't even have to ask. No, you're old when you don't have to ask for your senior discount. So you know, you get there and they're showing commercials. I got there at three forty, five start. I got their set down by three thirty. So you get there and they're running commercials, commercials for TV shows and then three forty five calms and they run the thing. You know, turn off your cell phone and don't talk and don't be a jerk. And then I set through five or six trailers plus the student commercials for Coca Cola, you know, film students get like fifty idea. It is five minute that, yeah, it goes. It just does long. Let's here's the front of think of the trailers. I saw the nutcracker Mary Queen of Scots. Ben is back aquaman Halloween, Robin Hood. And I think there were a couple of others and there were about twenty five people in the audience at three o'clock on what day week day on a Friday. Okay. Clock on a Friday. The youngest guy. We were diverse. There was all kind of of ages there and no, Mark, you always say there's always one in the audience. Yes. Usually they sit right next to me. Well, in. The audience was so enthralled that you could have heard a pin in the last thirty minutes win. The moonshot begins and you go into space and you know some of those scenes are dead. Silence. Real silence. Thank you. So compelling. I mean, you really. Seat could feel the audience holding their breath, and the experience gave me goosebumps. I'm so happy to hear that. So great. It is one of my favorites. This sheets, gray, it's a good movie. It's a really good movie and deserves your attention. Absolutely. I know in it's not getting the attention. It's really not. It didn't open -particularly up to expectations, and some people think that that stupid talk about a false flag operation. Exactly flag controversy, which was it is it was so Indiana that I didn't even mention. I just I refuse to even it dull, Jit effected if it affected this movie in any way. I'm gonna be really angry because it is Kanthi thrilling global American achieve. American flags flying. Everybody in the world is is you know, captivated by this and I, we talked about this last week and I'm not spoiling a pot ploy Plon here because we all know that Nealon all walked on the moon, the dramatic. I thought for me and I heard you say this and I thoroughly agree. It's the footstep and in the looking up to see the footprint that's it's like the flag is just like, okay, we did that afterwards. You don't need that. For that scene. You could have it, but you don't need it. And for this to become a thing now is utterly absurd. It's just infuriate and Neil Armstrong was he was a Gary Cooper type. He was the strong silent America right sixties and and you know, this is played out against the backdrop of the Vietnam war and everything else that was going on polarization. I thought it was an incredible movie and I was so proud of the audience. That I set with adder. That's wonderful. Through forty five minutes of stuff to see that God. That's cool, and it was worth the journey, right? Yeah, that's so great. Commercials and then twenty five minutes of trailers. It makes it tough. I'm all. I hope we can. I hope people can get over whatever they're not getting go, see, it's the kind of thing you know it is. We always talk about those all rounders like you can send people to this and just say, go, you know. And I just think that kind of movie, you know, it's just it'll if you're old enough to remember it'll bring it back in a way that's valuable. And if you're too young to know it, then it's a beautiful primer. And what happened was an inclusive American moment. I, I remember because I'm old staying up all night with a group of friends watching the picture because it's seems to me like they landed like one AM or midnight the middle of the night. 'cause I remember getting out of bed to see it all. I was my parents got me out of the crib and held in front of the TV watch this. But I mean people ask me how old I am and I said, well, born in nineteen sixty nine. April. I was around for Woodstock and I was reading the window, you know? But and here Cronkite talked about the JFK Texas play. Because it's all we do. And it was just. It's remains to me the most significant achievement of humanity. I mean the great the we did it as Americans, but this is for all humanity that we put a put dudes in a little washing machine and there four days a week to go to another planet. Legal, no attention to the flag. That's totally relevant. That's totally relevant. Well, and most people who were talking about it having seen the move. That, yeah, it's usually the case. These people looking for a little click, bait, click, bait, and a little purchasing, the pundit wars or whatever. Yeah, silly speed boot you can read and Hornets review. Nothing is not click up watching this movie kill you. If you. Today's reviews, Washington, Post dot com. I post stuff at arch Campbell dot net. Send us your wise cracks too, at the movies, twenty two at gmail.com. At the movies, twenty two gmail.com. And we come to you from chatter it, Wisconsin Jennifer streets in northwest Washington, DC chatter, it's a restaurant. It's a bar. It's a podcast studio, and it's a money losing hobby. Or I dare friend, Tony Cornide talk about a Kickstarter campaign lifestyle choice. It truly is Batak Halloween. I've never seen so many holidays, natural, Nancy view. Look for the money. Yeah. Really is fantastic. You gotta see it. And by the way side. Now, Tony, we got this on the show earlier this week from Brian Polian who's the special teams coach for Notre Dame. He sent in in a fischel Notre Dame football helmet with the gold like the legitimate Notre Dame gold flecked paint on it. It's behind the bar were done. It's literally one of the coolest things ever. Yeah. So come by and see that an order like six meals just just to help the cause so. So I'm bereft on streaming. I'm Brian. Do you have anything to hang his soul? Soul is over all is for this season, and now he's Saul. He, he became sole. He became Saul in the in the closing moments of that. And you've been wondering, yes, going to happen, you could see it bubble up. He was selling cell phones out of the back of his car legally. He's like, he can't help himself from being who he is. You know? And you know, he's, we know, Kim is just right at the edge race Yvonna who I just I can't sing praises in. And is he going to drag her down? Well, she's not in breaking bad. So I think one of two things happens either. She says, I'm going away because you're just toxic and I don't need you any my life at all. And she just leaves completely or one of his games up getting her killed. I hope to God. That's not the case. I mean, that's that's what we're all thinking. Well, certainly he does get involved with some. I mean gusts. You know running that methane pyre is a tough guy as we found out with the German. Guy thought he could sneak out of this construction site for few days to see his wife. Any found out that the drug dealers who were funding the whole construction operation. We're like, yeah, no, you can't. And it's going to import for you. So spoiled that for everybody. I'm sorry, it's been out over a week. You know, there should be a time limit for the somebody fries. They blew up the death star. You know, Phil, see it. Okay. Well, and you need to be really of familiar with breaking bad, but if you are, it's just brilliant. I had such deep doubts. This is gonna work. You know, it's like Joey from friends. It's like, no, you're just trying to scam some money and just keep it going. But boy, they really did it correctly. They did a Jonathan banks. I cannot get enough of him either everything he does, she's good. Yeah, he really isn't. He and and this has really given him an extension of his role which was so good it working and you wanted more of that, you know. And so you got it, it's it's all across the board. I know you. You never got into that universe outside the boy. It's on this one, but I'm happy for all of you. Glad to know. So you got nothing to watch. Now. There was a British version which exactly? Yes, with a sexy vicar past. Sausage. Yes. Write that down. Going back to. No, I'm between things to, you know, I'm like, I'm waiting for all my fate. Like the counterpart trailer. Counterparts seen it. I'm so excited that's coming, but that's not coming till December waiting for my crown to come back. I'm waiting for my Babylon Berlin to come back. My catastrophe. I'm kind of in my that show that the that the listener turned us onto injustice. Wonderful. But it only five episodes. Yes. So now I'm kinda like you're like, I need more so. Called the Romanoff's by Wigner, who was the guy that leaner, the guy that played Buzz Aldrin I'll Corey stall, Corey stalls in it and among many others. The cast of I can't. This is on is this on Amazon prime. They're doing it old school. It's not been Jabbour. They're they're the renting out by one. I, I don't know what it's about, but I wanna watch the I do because spoiler alert I interviewed Diane lane last week. Oh, Niamh. She asked about me shoot about, you know, I got this feeling. We can talk about that off. Probably about she's in one of these episodes of the Romanovs. Oh, she is fantastic. And so it's basically the loose theme is that you know there are people who think that they are descendants or maybe sometimes are descendants of the actual Romanov family white Russians, those you. Right. Exactly. This is kind of loose. That's the loose connection. They all share is some connection with that family, whether it's real or imagined. Okay. And other than that, I really don't know. They have shroud this thing in so much secrecy. Like I asked for present, usually you get a screening, press notes and stuff. It was like pulling teeth getting the screener, which I finally did. Oh, you. So you have in mind, but I don't even want to comment on it because I don't know how it fits into the larger constellation. That'll come out in a few weeks. But honestly, it's a little bit of a mystery about how everybody relates and how they overlap or they do overlap. So I don't know. We're just along for the ride, but it is an amazing cast. I-. Amazing. I, she's Diane lane. She's just tremendous. She's about that because that that story is coming out in a few weeks so we can talk about it more than when is the Romanoff's available. Is that out? They started it. Okay. So there's like one episode, one. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, whatever night it drops Thursday or Friday. That's what you get, then you gotta wait a week and I know, and I will never try and sway either one of you to the Walking Dead, but this might give you comfort on some level. The ratings are really starting to dive on the show. I think it and there's a couple of key actors that are leaving it after the season. I think the seasons is great as any of them I'm captivated every time it's on. I just cannot turn away, but I think I think the end is nigh the Indies. Everything has its natural end. That's okay. Can I choose you some draggers zombies? Arch. I'm looking for something. The Walking Dead had something for Justice is good. Yeah, but the Romanoff. Heard another thing, and I meant to look this up before. Maybe maybe our production team are crack production team could lose up lathering. Apparently there is a show called the wine show w. I n. e. wise kind of like top gear for wine with everybody is on it. Oh, must track this down hunted, like an elk in the wild. Bringing in hold on with Matthew, goody, Jay. Federene any and Matthew Reese. Oh my God. This is. He must find it too. They just sit around and get. Katrina kind of air. Brilliant. Thank read. Oh, wow. We've talked about James per perfectly good. Okay. If you need something. Good is good too. Yeah, he is. He's terrific if you want something good to watch. This is not new. It was an HBO. It was two seasons called Rome and it. It's one of an ancient history guy. I need to watch that. It is so unbelievably. Well, I'm gonna put that on my list. I need to. I cannot recommend it highly enough and I forget, oh gosh, now going to look it up. So talk about yourselves for second, but Rome. The guy who plays Caesar is a guy that we've all seen before. What is his name? Darn it. I look at this hold on, I can think of is Caesar. I hardly see. We can't. All I can think of is Steve corral. Sierran hines. Hi. He is so good Kevin McKay is in it Ray Stevenson Zenit. This is all based by the way on true figures from Roman history, things to minor characters, they build all show around. It's like almost like a Rosencrantz and gilded stern kind of characters, but it's just so weld on if you want something good. I recommend that I find that wine wine show. I'm in wine show in the Romanoff's. That's wow. Now there was another show that was back last night that of course, none of us watch because you guys were and I was watching the Red Sox. Oh yeah. The Connors formerly Roseanne at right and. Okay. So we didn't watch it, but the reviews on it are that the handled her departure as well as you possibly? Could. They did it with respect. They weren't so wasn't just mean to it wasn't mean spirited wasn't like when Charlie Sheen. Right? Yeah. And it wasn't like chef on south park. When when is a. As left that this was done with dignity with respect, they didn't them using a bad metaphor kick that corpse around. I guess the storyline was something that she Odid on prescription drugs. And so there was that scene that they were dealing with and it takes place a few months after the funeral and after the death. So it's how the whole family is reacting to excuse me, dealing with it and from all accounts, they did a very good job of it. And there are some quarters that are saying maybe the show is better what I was thinking. But I, I was just kind of dipping in and out. But my my impression is some people do think it's even stronger. So it's more about the characters now than about Roseanne. Roseanne was so white hot that gives hard to see Pat. I mean, she very sense. She was that care, right? Maybe it's more of an ensemble and what a great on samba Laurie Metcalf John Goodman, right? Yeah, just terrific ass. Johnny. Lucky, I guess, is coming back in it and Mary Steenburgen was guest starring it. And again, I'm just getting this as the woman that supply the prescription drugs to Roseanne because I have seen some of the trailers some heated back and forth with John Goodman and her character. So it looked motion, but I'll be honest with you. I've never been never watched that show, but I'm gonna go back and watch that. Oh, and I also want to say, I did get a chance to watch free solo. Oh my, oh. Have you unclogged yet? No. Oh, my plan to watch Archie. Got. It's it's an award contention, Tony every doing rarely. Well, at the box all go watch the moment. There's a moment closure years March where he, he meets the people the, there's like all of a sudden out of nowhere is like couple of folks. You know. You know spending. Even believe that you're seeing you can't. There are moments where you just cannot believe what you are seeing. It's wild so good. I'm glad you caught up with. Yes. Thank you for that. Now, is it music time? It is music time I had a song I was going to suggest maybe I'll whisper it to you. Right? A require. Okay. We'll amongst ourselves. Fine. Well, I hope you, I hope you watch Rome. I really do. I'm going to watch. I know classics keep Trump, but I just, I love the way that they did it. They really did a great job of it and how you pronounce his name. Sharon Hines, I always think sh. What do you think arch Sharon, Sharon, share of Cheryl Hines. Cheryl. Hi. Larry, David is in it. Yeah, it's. By the way I was making a joke and I'll, I'll test this with you guys. I wanna do this on my neck stand up. So I was thinking about how every time, anything from ancient history. Everybody's in a British voice, you know, all they do the antics Shakespeare and I was like, wouldn't it be great if instead of that they did like the stereotypical bad Italian voice friends, man. Making him up on Wickham pedia and I can't tell this pronunciation. It looks like it's. That's a really obscure. Even more confusing. All right. We're going to share in just. Marcus. Sorry, arches handling this note. No. 'cause I'm a horror movie. I mean, October mode can read what you wrote well. Sure. Well, from I man, lunar rhapsody. Yeah, Baxter is that who that was. Montavani. Perfect for that. And by the way it was Jason is bell. That wrote the song from that. We're talking about left at good times, whatever it's called now. Yes. Other one care on. Yes. Oh, secure on here on or Kieran? Khiran. Cure on KIRO. Heireann. Cam Hines, Karen. Hi names, brilliant as Caesar. So this is our soundtrack song of the week. You gotta get this one in one note really. Oh, sure. Food rise credence Clearwater revival right? By the way, the critical commentary on this song. This was releasing. Let's see April of nineteen sixty nine. John Fogerty reportedly wrote this after watching the devil and Daniel Webster expired by scene in the film involving a hurricane forty, four claims. The song is about the apocalypse that's going to be visited on all of us. Birth? Yeah, he did read shortly after I was born right this, I'm playing the song because this is from the soundtrack of, I think my favorite horror movie of all time where wolf in Lund American world in London, which used sound as before the show and was one of the first movies I encountered that was like whether these in soundtrack and a great way you'd blue moon. You know a couple of versions of that you had this and it just it just worked on every level for me, it was. It's a lot of comedy, but also very scary. And I remember seeing that movie and being utterly blown away by it and just really, really loved. I think Griffin Dunne is only note from that did not play the lead. I forget the guy who played the lead. Hold on. I have it right here. It was David Naughton, Dan. Yeah. So a lot of good stuff. Yeah, eighties, but just it's one of those movies that kind of gets lost in the cracks. Yeah, it's time and directed by by the way, written directed by John Landis and I think he's deal was that he'd written it like a long time ago and he'd written it when he's system on Kelly's heroes. He and fellow crew member were driving in the back of a car when they came across a group of gypsies, the appeared before rituals on a man being buried so that he would not rise from the grave. This realized would never be able to confront dead. Gave the idea for this movie in wrote it and sixty nine, but shelved it for ten years. And it wasn't until he had some success with other stuff like the blues brothers in Kentucky Fried movie that he finally got Greenland project. So just just to kind of cool rock and roll horror movie from back in the day. Do you guys have fond memories of just me? No, no, no. I remember it was kind of a of an update of thirties, yes, or will, and and it tweaked it with contemporary music and contemporary actors, and it had a lot of humor to it and and yeah, I thought it was good. No, there are gaps in my movie knowledge because when did it come out eighty one eighty. I was in college when I'm in there, like my whole colleges, I didn't see many movies because I was at school. I was mind and we didn't really have a big. We had like a little art house theater in our little town Northampton, but I don't remember going to movies, just movies, weren't that big deal back then you know, we weren't movie crazy. The way we are now. Movies were very cool. We're coming into their own in the late sixties and seventies, and you could see things in the movies that you couldn't see on TV. And by the way, it wasn't a big part of our cultural life in my at my school for some reason is just so I do a huge blinds well in for for younger extras who listen, we didn't always have this thing called cable these word coming out that you could see three months later. Or streaming or anything like that? VCR's back. Them in theaters, and then they vanished head. But we were going to like art movies. You know what I mean? Like ring in king of hearts. And I remember seeing my brilliant career, you know, stuff like that, but we weren't seeing maze. Exactly. And they would show foreign films on campus, but we weren't going to go see the movie that was coming out on that Friday at all at all. It was just not a part of our life. Those the Truffaut movies when they came out it was a big deal from France shirts. No people would go and watch them and think nothing of the subtitles. Good luck with that. I want to very briefly mention my road tar yet and why I like road trips because I sit there and I do my best thinking as I'm driving and listening to the radio and thanks to serious. I listened to a bunch of really odd stuff. I heard a nineteen Forty-five recording of Carmen from the Metropolitan Opera, which was a me. As ING because you could hear the the singers tromping around because they didn't have the kind of microphones we have and then I discovered the classic radio channel. Hey, that's my favorite. And I heard fellow in nineteen thirty five broadcast of the Lux radio theater. This is why I want to mention it. The host is Cecil b demille I'm not familiar with him nineteen. Thirty five when they moved to Hollywood and their deal was they would remake movies as radio plays, but they couldn't always get the same actors. So they would cast different actors in the radio plays of these movies. So for instance, they did a production of CASA, Blanca with Alan Ladd and Hetty Lamar goodness. And you know, it's just it's so the show I heard was called the legionaire and the. Lady, which was originally the movie Morocco with Marlene, Dietrich and Gary Cooper. So this performance at heap, Rick and Clark Gable. That's so cool Ed. So after the show demille interviews, the stars and gabled comes on and says, mister Gable a thousand hearts are pumping because you are here and my young assistant gave me a screen test of you. But the studios at your ears were too big. And then Marlene Dietrich comes out. They interview them separately not together, and he's misdee- Trich. You're so beautiful, and it is such an honored have you here, and our audience would be so grateful. If you would sing your signatures on from the Blue Angel falling in love. Again, she says, Yes, Mr demille would be happy to do that would be accompanied by the composer of falling in love again, Mr. Frederick Hollander and he starts on the piano and then Dietrich literally drops her voice on octa Dr. Dr love again. My to do never vaunted to can't help an all I could think of was Madeline Kahn. Saddle. Hello. How you doing. When you said, hey, Lemar Hannity heavily. People. Brooks. Less per generation. Well, her, you know, Madeline Kahn's imitation was spot on. Oh. Genius. For the trend else, would you do that when you're dry driving you like this. Hundred miles. You're like, I got this for the next few hours. Yeah, this is perfect. Can I give you a little recommendation? Yes. I don't know if we've gone there yet. I do have sleep issues. Sometimes I find it hard to sleep. Sometimes I find it hard to when I wake up to go back to sleep, hard to wake up. That's my. That's also when you when I've had trouble, but I discovered BBC there's a BBC. Radio app, BB rare? Yep. Theatrical chase, certainly. Do I play radio BBC it's it's awesome and I've been listening to there is a series on their hold on now. I'm going gonna look at it because it's with Bill Nye. Oh, is all much phone on? It says that's a lie. Bill Nye? Yes. My favorite Bill Nye who should have gotten an last year? Yes, yes, nine. Cool. Oh, God was it called? Charles price is they changed the list every few weeks. So now's not even on there anymore, but check it out because there's all these different. There's a, there's the Saint. There's the old. Oh temple. Yeah. Simon Templar. Oh, the rule. There's this long running soap opera soap opera called the archers that I'm completely addicted to now and they're classics or modern all of it million things on love it. It's just fun to scroll down and try different things. It's really fun. What's see radio? Yes, it is. The name of the thing is on. I'm gonna start playing it. You don't need that in your life. I player radio BBC. I player radio. Okay. In I've got a recommendation for you on my automatic. My audible app audio books. I listened to of on with great frequency, the actual production of jest in when I love that story coal by PC Ren, but it starring Laurence Olivier which is pretty cool. And I think works in wells directed the whole thing. So it's like, yeah, it's pretty cool thing to check out. So mania fans to. I love those great arched show. We. Was just so having just drive. Yeah. Listen to Marlena Clark. Gable. Roles by I heard Jack, Benny perform brewster's millions. Granges that rates. That's just great. So we've got some emails. As you said before the address at the movies, twenty two g mail dot com. This from Patty Tatum we've heard from her before. Hi guys, love the podcast from October fourth, the discussion about the Texas hill country just brings back memories. I lived in Kyle which is just outside of Austin, and my son is still in San Marcos beautiful. I think of bananas, the Woody Allen movie when it here about San Marco. If if you wanna miss the crowds but get great barbecue, go to Kent blacks in sent in San Marcos. They have another location Lochore. I always bring a large order to Louisiana when my Amil annual visit quite says heart. That's where we quite. But now blacks is considered because the crates family moved out to a new place. Right? And there was sort of a split blacks place, and then you know, the place I went Louis Mueller, which I sent you a picture of, yes, that's sort of the granddaddy because the guy from Franklin came there and learn at the seat of the master. This all the way from England, Dave in bury Saint Edmunds England. They're an arch and Mark I've been meaning to tip you off to this show bodyguard from the BBC. Okay, six db drama series that I believe net flicks has picked up. You won't be disappointed. Okay. Up my street, yes. Oh, in this final one, this is just to me, but I wanna make sure we highlight this look up, John C, Reilly singing fathom the bowl on a discount rogues gallery, which is co produced by Johnny Depp around the time of the first pirate movie. You can thank me later. Big fan, Mike, Mike. Sorry, I downloaded album it ten years ago. Like I've had that album. I know I know that song Johnson a couple of songs on it and he's just he's a multi talented guy. Are you looking forward to the Abbott and Costello movie as much as we are. Laurel, laurel, Hardee's cannot wait trailer. I have not seen the trail. Okay. I I have in the first the only I know we can't judge trailer, but I told you this and I'll say it again reminded me of Chaplin, like sort of the setup for it. And I always yes showcase. I think this is going to be fantastic night of around. I watched this is your life when they did a loyal and hearty there was some reference to one of their silent films where he goes to the dentist and the inhale, a lot of laughing gas. You know, good ole the Google and ipad. Yes, so, but yeah, I can't wait for that. Can't wait. And I see Riley as the party looks. I mean the the makeup work, they did. He just looks fantastic. Looks fantastic on date on that. Oh, let me look that question. You guys, you guys give me your under the radar recommendations. I'll look that up. Well, I'm going to jump in again and go for I man, I'm I was just so impressed and don't overlook. It's it gave me goosebumps. Do you know I'm going to. I'm just going to reinforce that for mine and it's FM. By the way. Oh, boy is incredible. An interesting character Janet is and the way she plays her is just it's great. It's like, we've, I've never met that person before. You know, the kind of wasn't quite little, wasn't a cookie cutter back. A little bit of she has to now gives them what four like not on her. No, you're talking to them. I'm not. You know, I just loved that. It's isn't the Avalon, which even it's just like, you know, it's fun to go see that an I max if you can, but it's also I think seeing it at the avalanche would be really, really special so that that would be my pick of the week. Good mine. This is a movie, Liam Niessen. Did I think it was last year it's called the commuter. I love the red full. No, I'm gonna stick with. I'm in the, I'm in the Halloween mood, so I'm going to go. I already talked about a couple of ones I, I like, but this one isn't really scary movie, but it counts for Halloween. Go back and watch young Frankenstein. Oh, back in watch. Off of guarantees. There are people out there that comes on and it's black and white and John White black and white watch it. Okay, watch it. It's when Mel Brooks had his ninety. Nine mile an hour fastball gene wilder Teri Garr Madeline von. It's just the scene, whether. When they're with us, my boyfriend. Yeah, put seem Madeline Kahn and gene wilder are saying goodbye and the train platform. The hair is it's. So you know to your uncle Marquis, watch it, watch it. Okay. Does that leave us a our final words or closing lines? Well, may I quote an Hornets. I'm waiting for my crown to come back. That makes it sound like I've got dental problems. I'm going to quote from Halloween. This week's Halloween just say, we're making a podcast how three thousand sound. And I'm gonna quote, I think it was u n we need is a sexy vicar saucy mate. Hey, now.

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ep 63: Put Mrs. Huh-Wiggins on the phone (The Carol Burnett Show)

So it's a show?: keeping up with the Gilmore Girls

56:04 min | 2 years ago

ep 63: Put Mrs. Huh-Wiggins on the phone (The Carol Burnett Show)

"They think hello anna welcome to so it's a show show where we attempt to keep up with a missa. Laura lie in <hes> for rory's pop culture references on the gilmore girls. My name is mrs. How wigan carneiro feel like. I love badly done but it's part of the charm that's true and i'm taylor and i just speak like normal person. Oh that that was something weird was going on a sorry sorry that he got a little frog in your throat. There is a little bit. Will we ever or not find new ways of excitement to introduce ourselves on this show in a way that makes people go. Maybe you should turn this off. I don't do that. We'll full explain how later but for now i think we'll stop talking in this voice. Although it is so oh fund to put her in front of everything. It doesn't really flow off <hes>. I wouldn't even say tongue because it's a breath yeah. It's really coming out of the back of your throat yeah but it's fun. Do you know what we're talking about already. You honestly might but we're gonna. We're gonna dig deep into this <music> hung axe hoe larry this larry acton or way of speaking speaking. I'm not sure <hes> but first let's talk about the episode where this reference even hook comes from before we get into our interesting episode. I gotta tell you something kyla. Tell big life change has happened in my life. I have had a change of heart that i think our listeners might be interested as of this week. I think i'm hash tag team. Logan dun dun dun come rolling rolling in the twist. I'm not talking about gilmore girls. I'm talking about veronica. Mars welcome to the v._m. Club you are marshmallow. Hello i am have been binging veronica mars in the last week and i just want to give a special shout out to anyone else who loves gilmore girls because there's a good chance that you're gonna love around mars to kyla has been raving about the show for a while and with the new season hulu finally got all the back catalogue the old seasons whatever you wanna call him so now. I finally have an opportunity to watch them. I'm super into them. It's about another other super smart. Teen detective type of rory's really detective. Let's call us another super smart teen ago who deals deals with a lot of class issues in high school and she has a strong relationship with a parent figure in her life and they're some great great little love triangle business going on for sure. I watched the show years ago and since the season the new season came out and i got hulu recently i actually started watching it and then taylor you have now surpassed where i was so really yes so when you left me a little message and you text me the other day like saying oh my gosh. I can't believe in season. Two like muted power was like wait no. I don't remember what happened full. Stop texting though i mean it's really fun. 'cause i just forget shows so then i can watch them and it's like brand new. What a delight. I don't wanna ruin that for you. Thank you but i will tell you another <unk>. We went out for brench this morning. We ended up talking about veronica. Mars and she also loves gilmore girls so i'm trying another show. Oh we give a little shout out to those from time to time but like jane. The virgin is one obviously marvelous mrs maes. I'd veronica mars to that list yeah. It's just just it's really fun but there's a mystery. There's always like a larger mystery throughout the season and then smaller mysteries that get solved in an episode or a few episodes associates so in nine times out of ten. I'm more interested in the large mystery than the case of the week but a lot of times they tie in together her. Yes and it's just a really well done. Show a little so b but not too much. It's just the right amount of soapy the of like oh my gosh there are secret children but in a way that still feels grounded most. Did you ever see that. I know <hes> so now taylor one last question. Does this mean that you're opening your eyes a opening your heart possibly possibly to teen dramas. I've never been against teen dramas. I just couldn't get past the one episode of riverdale wash together. I that's too much for me. That's too soapy from the get-go. Yeah i love the oh see. That's another team drama. Hey yeah so you do oh. You do like some yes for sure well. I can't wait to watch the new season. I don't know why i'm waiting but i just it's going to be goodbye so so yeah. Rewatch refresh see if you can figure out what the difference between logan hunts burger and logan eccles is because in a lot of ways. They're basically really the same person see if i can ever find dunkin interesting. Oh my gosh that's the other factor yeah logan. Hence burger was facing off against jess. Logan echoes is facing off against the most boring person in the world duncan yeah but this is not a veronica mars podcast. This is not not so. Let's get into gilmore girls. I know the episode of gilmore girls we are talking about. Today is gilmore girls episode three eighteen happy birthday baby. Can you believe almost at the end of season three. I know this flu. Yeah and i gotta tell you plot. Summary is gonna fly to. I think it's the shortest one we've had yet what the i._m._d._b. Plot summary for this is rory plans low-rise birthday party. Oh my goodness that's so so let's that's one thread about like trying to make the world's largest pizza in poor kirk getting third degree cheese burns earns yeah which we don't even see the party at ends with it in the distance yeah with the pizza being dropped on crane. Oh yeah which honestly steve. That sounds like a dream. Come true for me so laurie. I'm glad that run. I said laurie rory. I've done that so many times. I know well. I'm glad that we did get to see the pizza though after all that work yeah but this totally leaves out a plot thread that that is relevant to what we're discussing today a ha- about the huge check that richard drops off for laura lie can get all those jimmy. Let me choose yes so there's a fun little convoluted reason for why relies getting this huge lose compare jimmy choos kinda check and this is how richard explains it. I appreciate you taking time out to beat me like this and i appreciate you actually showing lineup in that sending your secretary. I assume you're wondering why i asked you here not at all. Well i have something for you. Is it hap- the personal of course laura lie george foreman grill when you were born. I decided to celebrate so as soon as your mother went to sleep. I left the hospital. I called my business manager and i made a real estate investment you. Do you know how to party don't you. I made this investment in your name. Despite a stuffed bear this is better. I've anyhow a little while ago. I got a letter from a lawyer who is representing the investment group informing me that the government is building a road right through the middle of your investment ad which means that the complex has been sold and all the investors will be receiving a check of happy since you are one of the investors get a chance. We're seventy five thousand dollars usages. I get seventy five thousand dollars dollars for being born. I thought it would be surprised. This is seventy five thousand dollars seventy five thousand scholars seventy five thousand dollars. Oh my god that's one hundred fifty pairs of shoes with a jimmy choos hundred fifty pairs <music> for seventy five thousand dollars. You should be able to buy at least three or four hundred pairs of shoes ridiculous. You are not going to spend seventy. Five thousand dollars was on jimmy choos when you could buy four hundred pairs of less prestigious but i'm sure equally stylish shoes you will shop around. I is that clear yes. They're right yeah but to actually have that meeting because richard is richard and he is a man who wears suits and bow ties and is very old school. He has to set it up in such a way that just feels right to him and this is how he goes about it. Gilmore you gotta. I'm calling from richard. Gilmore's office never heard of him. Gilmore your father tall bowtie yes yes. I'm with you now. Go ahead okay well. He'd like to set up an appointment to meet for coffee with tomorrow work for you to o'clock well is is that my father excuse me on the phone. Please handed <music> over hunting. I come on. Let's go chop. She wants to talk to you toro meter tomorrow in work but i bet you to make my appointments dad add laura hello. Are you telling me that you're sitting right next to this woman while she called me. She's my secretary laura lie. You're sitting right there. This is the way a proper business is conducted two feet from the phone. I'm not gonna argue with you. Are you vailable tomorrow or not. I have something i need to discuss with you now. I don't have the time now well put. Mrs hogan's on the phone have her tell me please law rely. Can you meet me tomorrow three o'clock or not. I will have karen call you tomorrow to conferment until you the place. Why can't you just tell me now. Lead me just a semblance of my structure. Please fine. I'll talk to the woman sitting right next to you tomorrow kayla. What in the heck did you think. Laura lives talking about when she said mrs <unk> wiggins. I think i actually might might've known oh because i'm sure that by that time that i watched episode my mother had introduced me you too where this came from and i'd seen the sketch. I knew the show i think i think i understood it now. I don't think i understood it fully end deeply but at least knew who misses her wiggins was you were way ahead of me. The i know i hear you zoom in past beat sound right past me. I wasn't even sure this was a pucklechurch faculty reference. It's one of those. I was flipping through the script saw that i don't even think it registered when she said it in the episode <hes> and and i just thought she was coming up with a funny name. We're maybe that it was even that secretary's name in didn't remember it right. I should just adding a uh-huh onto it. Yeah had no idea what she was talking about so you were his way ahead of me yeah because when we were talking about this you you said oh. I don't even know if that's a reference and i was like oh. I know what that is. Let's do that archie comics all over again yeah but also like so many other references says that you've known that i haven't new. It's kinda funny how that works. It sounds like we complete each other jerry maguire style. Yes also have never seen jerry maguire so there we go exhibited. Were even for the day okay well. Should we dig into this reference. <music> hallet's so mrs <unk> wiggins she comes from mhm a series of sketches on the one the only carol burnett show carol burnett actress comedian so talented. She's still with us to have a show anymore because it was in the seventies so it's like it's okay. It was a variety show. Variety like is just the perfect word for it because they were singing. There's huge dance numbers but there are lots and lots of comedic sketches incapable net was the host the redhead and she had on regulars really funny people all people what were their names tim conway <hes> vicky warren's harvey korman lyle wagner partner and ernie anderson where the people across the whole series that were in about one hundred episodes or more mom and i knew about this show from my mom. She loved the show so we definitely watched some together for our episode. She said that tim conway was definitely only her favorite lionel just not on par with the others so funny talking such trash about him. Yes so variety show to t- like every week was totally different but it was every week and like people crowded around their tv fork who's back when there are only a few channels on oh and probably was in black and white right because it was before we were born. Oh yeah definitely accept no just kidding in color back in the show ran for a total of two hundred and seventy nine episodes woo dang. That's a lot it was eleven seasons rian from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy eight and over the course of that period had twenty five emmy wins in out of seventy nominations it one outstanding variety series three times ten conway one outstanding supporting performer music variety three times. This issue is basically just had a lot going on yeah and it was every saturday night but it was not s._n._l. It was a little before us than the meaning it came on before s._n._l. 'cause they overlapped a little bit right wanted us start nineteen seventy five yeah and this i went through nineteen seventy eight so there was a little bit overlap. It still has a lasting legacy as well in two thousand seven time magazine. Put it on their one hundred thus t._v. Shows of all time in twenty thirteen t._v. Guide had it in their top twenty shows of all time so people still consider this one of the best shows of all all time. It's not something that has faded in its legacy either and like you. My mom was the first person to introduce me to the carol. Burnett show that i remember birther in seventh grade. I read gone with the wind which was by far the longest book i ever read while at that time. Actually there aren't that many many books. I've read now muslim and then of course my mom and i watch the movie together all four hours of it wow and then she said oh you have got to see the carol. Burnett went towards a wind. Yes i refreshed on that this afternoon. Just as funny as i remembered it and that moment with carol burnett san i just saw the window and i couldn't resist so good good that is just like one of the all-time great movie spoofs yeah pause this episode go watch that come right back and and i had forgotten until i re watched it today that her introduction to that skit was a whole bunch of people just tuned tuned in to watch gone with the wind in a five hour slot on tv for the first time on television and so for those of you who missed it. We're gonna recap what happened. <hes> that's funny so just a very different time where tv debuts of popular movies were big deal because that was really the only chance you get to see it unless it came back to theaters yeah and she always opened up the each show by talking and taking questions from the audience which i love those moments because she just calls on people and they ask her the little things here and there and they're usually very like they're usually pretty good questions. But of course you get some that are like that's kind of feel my mom remembers. She was telling tell me about it and she would always wiggle her ear and that was to tell her mom that she's doing well and she loves her and you know what's funny. My mom said it was for her kids. You know let my mom said it was for her kids as well but then we looked up and seen though for her grandma same humor oh see i red for her grandma so just for everyone who she ever loved ever yeah. Maybe is changed 'cause 'cause they're grandma. Grandma died than during the show but she kept on doing it so then. Maybe it's switched to for kids. I don't know either the way it should take sweet gesture. Yeah really cute and people all also always asked her to do her tarzan. Yell oh yes. I'm not sure how this started. I watched a nice little montage of many of her tarzan. Yells will share the in our tumbler love it. It is too funny and i did read that one time. She also had to use it as identification. He went to buy something at a store. They had recognized her as carol burnett but she didn't have her i._d. With her to show as she signed her check so she used her tarzan yellows proof that she she was carol burnett that is hilarious. I know how great is that while epic yell me me me so the head the normal cast regulars and but they also guess as as you can imagine on a variety show oh yeah and they had musical gas and the had actors and a bunch of them. Guess what are people. We've talked about before on this podcast. We've got one. We talked about last episode chita rivera dancing all across the stage on a spiderweb not sure what that was about as wayne for sing but she didn't in the one. I saw maybe she was getting ready for her performance in kiss of the spider woman maybe just kidding that was years later but i like to think it's connected somehow mogo that you've got charro which i loved because carol brunette that played a charro character and then you see them together and she said that was one of her favourite parts to play. I read on a little bit of that moments together you decide you lend to trust me. Why when you go who else we got taylor. Oh girl as variety shows go. There are all sorts of people who have been on the show. Just like you think of any variety show. There were a ton of guests and i'm just gonna read off a list. A whole to these people are just super well-known. I think it'll be a fun little fact that they are connected in guest starred and some of these people we have talked about route before so let me get ready. Take a deep breath okay tons of gas many of them returning including dick van dyke andy griffith fifth jim nabors from the andy griffith show vincent price lucille ball betty white bing crosby liza minelli from arthur tony randall from the odd couple well steve martin barbara eden from i dream of jeannie gloria swanson from sunset boulevard sally struthers who played babette on gilmore girls nancy walker the n. valerie harper from the mary tyler moore show rita moreno martin landau who we talked about last week jimmy stewart and ronald reagan in. I did not even list. Everybody just ones that. I was like you've gotta know. These people were run here. Dang that's awesome. I know it basically anybody who is anybody was on this show except for bette davis who asked for too much money want were yeah. That's basically the one carol burnett was like sorry we didn't get her. It was too much. That's funny and in case. You're listening waiting to take a drink angela lansbury we did never yes and the carol burnett show however vicki lawrence and lyle wagoner the regulars both guest starred on murder she wrote go. I was waiting here angel- and spirits name for real look. If there's nothing else i accomplish on the the show i am going to connect angela lansbury murder. She wrote every single topic. We ever talk about thank you. Hey one more gilmore girls connection for you with with carol burnett okay. She started in the movie post grad with alexis. How nice which movie i've never gotten around to seeing but now i have a little extra incentive so asking my mom about like what comes to mind when you think of carol burnett show and she definitely said went with with the wind absolutely that comes to mind that was like a twelve minute sketch. Wasn't it yeah really long but a lot of the sketches are like five six minutes. I actually so leading up to this recording. I went through some lists especially because tim conway passed a few years ago. There were a lot live retrospectives in lists of the best sketches that he was in and of course as we will talk about. Mrs wiggins is in those lists but there there were a lot of skits that i watched that were twenty minutes. I mean y or some of them. That were longer than ten which is definitely not typical call for a variety shows today or late night sketches while and something that like i definitely noticed with these is that they are the sketches are not about current events. They're just they're situational or they're mainly people we might know but it's they're like at the dentist at the office at their house and guests come over like it's just very normal situations and i kinda like so. I feel like that's part of what makes it timeless yeah. My mom watched the slot with her best friend del and they imitated. Mrs hawaiians quite a bit for like different reasons than i was expecting. When you hear mrs <unk> wiggins would he think think i think mr todd the ball sticking your bud out and just you know the filing your nails the classic skip to the the secretary so it was just such a stereotype and she was so funny with her body. You know what i mean the skits with the droopy boobs and the big butts. She's along those yes a lot of those and so you're kind of anxious to see what's what's it gonna be because he's never had any idea what it was gonna be so yeah. They would actually imitate her walk and not the talk will. She definitely has a distinct walk to her. Yeah i read that originally they were thinking of mrs wiggins and it's really misses is wiggins. Which is why i had trouble finding these skits. Originally i was looking for mrs hall wigan who doesn't show up in the search results. They were originally thinking she would be an old old lady on this show but one of the people in the show the costume designer thought that carol burnett already played a lot of old lady characters on on the series so he said what if we made her a little younger so she could wear skin tight knee-length skirt so that she would have to do this very funny waddell walking because she could not get her legs out very far and then he put her in the highest. He'll i could get her on so by the time he got your heels up in your knees in when you stick you're out you're ready to go yes and so that little like waddell but out walk and so slow. She's very slow walker. Oh she slow at everything yeah so mrs wiggins guy. She's basically like the worst secretary ever back when they had secretaries because because they did the typing of whatever guy in a suit asks them to type which to be clear. We know secretaries are still around today they just i don't have the same yet additional roll. It doesn't look exactly the same as then he yeah. Tim conway is playing mr. Oh what's his name name. Mr todd ball what you are weird name. Mr todd bull mrs hogan's sitting in the office right next to his and so their desks espace the same way and there's like a window so you can see through one office to the other and mr ted ball. He speaks very funnily and he says a mrs wiggins that that's the way he talks and she is just kinda like airhead. Yeah yeah you know. She reminds me a million delia. Oh a little airheaded. Yes super literal like not thinking oh well if you say this then maybe like not putting things together. Just oh you want me to heat up a can of soup will then i will put this can in the pot and heated up without opening it and pouring in the continent so very literal paul and not thinking oh well maybe a. m. b. equals c. Yeah definitely meeting direct. She is the kind of person who when he says now mrs hogan's. I don't want anybody in the office until noon. She leaves because she is somebody buddy yep so how many mrs hogan's. I don't know how many there were total iphone five and ten and they're once again. They are just goofy little scenarios. There is one where mrs wiggins wiggins just makes a little cameo at the end. After mr todd ball has had a lot of issues with a vending machine and then she just shows up in continues can use to ruin his day. There's a very funny one that my mom and i watched together where they are trying to paint the office and of course her trying to climb matt ladder in that tiny tight. Little skirts does not work very well and there are a couple where she's about to go on vacation and he's trying to teach her to play blackjack. There's one where they add security to the door buzzer to get in so naturally really no one can get in that office one where she's getting work done on her car but the mr todd boldt thinks that the work is actually on her and so when the mechanic says a week she's got a week he meant. The car was gonna take a week to work on notch. Mrs hogan's has a week to live. Okay so then there's definitely more than five because i did not watch that one okay and then there is what i understand to be the i mrs hogen sketch which is when they install an intercom system. Oh yeah did watch that one yeah. They stand how this is a sponsor to work. Explain this one the more time you the theme over this when you talk you disapprove of that by them to talk doc wind you listen <unk> price now. Let's see if you can you hear me this again almost comical. I'm beginning to laugh at myself on this. I'm gonna take one more time. The you watch real good here mrs a wiggins haya. Did i'm doing real good two houses up not too bad to my knee. He hurts to go home and soak. It did that later. You see how that works for all right now. Save trumpeting to me. Can you hear me the and that's actually the one that i remember seeing before you know must have been as a kid at some point with my mom. It's the intercom one so it kind of feels like every episode. He's every upset every sketch he is. Mr todd boldt is trying to teach mrs wigan something new and in the she usually gets it in the end and and shows him a very light in your face kinda away like oh look see i did understand but like again not not in practical use just ah i don't know if that makes sense. She's taken something literally to do what he has asked her to do. But it's not in a way okay that is actually successful for what he wants to achieve. Yes and i think at least for me. The comedy comes from will she get it right or won't she because it keeps going back and forth where he will ask her to do something in do it but she'll do it poorly or your setup to think that she will not understand but then she actually comes comes through indesit successfully helpful no. It's never helpful to mr todd ball but the question is will. She actually do what he has ask her to do or will she be confused again. Answer it keeps flipping back and forth. You just never know what the outcome is going to be. Yeah yes so they so they did like maybe six of these that we found <hes> like and they're pretty funny and they're like the classic like my mom said she thought of when with the wind and mrs hogan's like that was what comes to mind so this was the big hey bill character. I think the other thing that makes it so funny to me is that mr todd ball accent which is just so outlandish outlandish. It doesn't feel mean spirited to any back under culture because is i read one article that called it romanian. I heard another person call it. Swedish like whatever it is it is not accurate to any country or nationality. It is really just a very silly accent that just he says something in. It's not a funny joke. It's just the way he says. It is so funny yeah. Don't let them analyst unless i got the badge all right here we go again. I'm happy sam tie clipping demand to see mr the ball. I died along. I commanded. I'll on get by her right now. Even though don't have eczema the by the president that you could go in and see mr todd ball but i don't have a bad job but you said for you to come in he didn't that was me you can say for you to come in and even under my this is like trying to teach the mermaid the do the splits now i had seen went with the wind growing up but i have not really watched much more of the carol burnett show. I sure i've seen clips here and there and i knew of the carol burnett show but i've probably several clips onto our show. Yes we did watch nora desmond for our senses boulevard and got a kick out of those but my mom and i decided to you watch them together because she grew up watching it and on amazon prime the only episodes that are included right now with your prime account on our the lost episodes which are things that for whatever reason they did not air or they did air but they were not available for d._v._d. Doc washburn streaming services for a long time and my mom and i watched one together and i chuckled a few times but it wasn't as funny as i expected. My mom was like oh no. This isn't as funny as i remembered and then i realized it was only their fourth episode we were watching al qaeda and so i think they were just still getting the lay of the land figure things out but i went on to watch many more sketches. It's definitely laughed and my mom and i talked a little bit about what she thought about the show now well because when we watched the full episode so together you kind of said this isn't as funny as i remember when we watch that earlier yes oh yeah when it was like the fourth the soda ever recorded yeah. I was like this. This is just so average which was the same thing that happened with happy days yeah when we watched the first season or so but <hes> <hes> when we watched went with the wind that was every bit as funny as i remembered i do remember mama's family which was later later on but it was funny maybe because it reminded me too much of my own him <hes> <hes> that's a little scary to think about but <hes> the other thing i remember is that because it was recorded live there were times when the characters characters started laughing but had to continue because it was live t._v. and it was so much fun watching them trying to contain contain their laughter or get past it or cover it up so i do remember that happening a lot. We did watch that one recently the dentist we're right harvey. Korman is cracking up so badly and that happened quite a bit and the back to tim conway his mr todd ball and wait hogan's that was a favorite and was disc- lassic one thing i could not a help but think about as i was watching these skits. There are a lot of things that have changed about sketch comedy today <hes> um are you an avid sketch comedy washer kyla. Oh i would say not like you are mostly because i know you watch s._n._l. And i do not watch us now but i certainly catch the highlights from different like what are some of them keenan eighteen and no no no that's old vio- oh yes i started to say that and then i went keenan and oh he didn't in in cal yeah different time yes. What's the call again he in peel qian peel so like i've seen a few from their point was about like teachers like current events ones mostly and that was good and then i'll watch s._n._l. Highlights so yeah just a a little beds but you what like what do you watch besides s._n._l. There's definitely a subset of culture comedy. Nerds who will go sutter donate live his ruling broad and it's not the best comedy and i totally get that and respect that i am a regular s._n._l. Watcher because i just think it has a really good pulse ulsan broad culture for that reason of course there are many other sketch shows that are doing more niche or more specific comedy which is totally really awesome. I do love my documentary now. Which this podcast put me onto because of grey gardens. I definitely love my mckee in peel. Which i know is no longer running but still those sketches have not aged at all and there are a handful of places. I catch sketches from otherwise but i mean i am not an avid sketch comedy watcher but when i do i definitely appreciate it in its silliness yes and one thing i was noticing about these as watching them. Was we talked about length beezer much longer. It takes a lot longer to get to the joke i think <hes> or there's not one joke yeah so mrs mrs wiggins there is one joke that she is a debts and will never achieve what mr todd ball asks her but there are a lot other ones were they go on for fifteen minutes and there is just something there's a new complication. It doesn't feel like we're <unk> just hitting the three beat of the establish reinforce subvert of comedy <hes>. It's definitely a little more all over the place. It's slower paced and it sounds like tim conway ad libbed a lot a lot yeah and i know just for example saturday night. Live lauren michaels is not a fan of ad-libbing. He does not like that at all so i know they are very strict like like about how much freedom making take with each skit. I'm sure there are some variations but it sounds like that's not the culture there and that's obviously one of the most influential places for sketch comedy for decades now so i have a feeling there are other shows that follow that same model and also something that i noticed the difference difference was when a sketch bombs <hes> it seems like s._n._l. Other posts like if it's bombing he's kind of like plow on through and then okay. No one's going to rewatch that on youtube but i'm carol burnett of a sketch wasn't going well because he wants to live audience begins then sometimes they would just start making fun of the sketch and like had said before like well. We'll never do this one again and so like they would joke about that which was like that's what i kinda like that because some sketches seem you've really funny to the people who are writing them not so funny to anybody else and they would joke about it which i have not seen in modern sketch comedy no not at all. I mean sometimes like in the s._n._l. Host monologue. I've heard them say things like oh. I was hoping that joke would lay in better but that feels also where you're directly talking to the audience instead of breaking the fourth wall so that definitely does feel different. I did see i was unable defined a skit where they were not laughing all the way through but the elephants story with anway which we will definitely share in our tumbler and the whole cast there's four of them on set and they are just they're literally falling on the floor laughing and a lot of shows like qian peel they are pre taped and they could easily at at that out if they start laughing on in their skit <hes> i read one article that was talking about how some people complained about how jimmy fallon would ruin skits on s._n._l. Because he you would start laughing but on carol burnett that was pretty. My mom said that she would always like wait for one of them to break. The other one like that was was exciting. She wanted to see that and she showed me one. <hes> the dentist sketch yes. I watched that one too so tim conway was the dentist who is a new dentist and what's the other guy who was the guy that was in it harvey korman. Yes hurry corman the other regular. He was patient his first patient. The doctor's first patient and the guy ends up just sticking novacaine the dentist ends up just sticking novacaine in his own hand in his face and his leg i mean and and <hes> the guy the patient guy in the chair actually wet himself during the sketch from laughing so hard when he crossed lay revealed later he wet himself himself from laughing so hard oh my gosh yeah and that elephants story one was actually ad libbed by tim conway. Oh my goodness. I read an interview with carol burnett. She said poor harvey. He prided himself on being serious comedic actor but when it came to tim he couldn't control himself harvey. He hated himself for laughing but tim his goal in life was to get harvey to laugh and he succeeded yeah and how sweet is that like they seemed like they genuinely cared about each other her and i love that they were totally the butt of the joke like carol burnett all of her a lot of like physical humor and her costume. She had a lot of like big butts or saggy bubes at ridiculous. I mean even the intro was her looking like a hag like with her looking like a maid or something with a ace like playing off of her own physical appearance. They definitely seem like they're having a lot of fun together. I think it helps that there are only five if people that are regulars. I think of that too with key and peele. There's two of them. They have a great reporter with each other no matter what kinds of characters airplane plane and seeing them laugh with each other. I think that's part of why it's so fun yeah and actually another another show. We talked about veronica mars that you put me onto. I just finished thirty rack. Thank you for recommending that one to me as well but there is a great episode where dr tracy morgan or tracy jordan on the show learns what breaking is in as starts to try and force it to happen on on the episode of tedious and of course i mean it's funny for us because we're watching him do something dumb but if we were living in that world old it would not be funny because he's trying to force himself to break or pretending it's happening because he thinks it's funny in that that people find it funny but we don't find it funny when you try to find it funny when you can't control yourself onset. We love seeing that yeah. That was a funny funny one. Oh no look at me. I'm breaky. Take ready talk about how this fits into the world of gilmore girls. I think we're ready. Mrs hogan's so first first off. I think my sense is that when laurel is using mrs hogan's to reference her her dad secretary she is referencing a certain sketch that mrs higgins was in <hes> you agree. I actually don't necessarily know after watching <hes> five or so skits. I watched were five. I i am not convinced of that but you could convince me. Tell me more all right. I'll do my best. I believe that law rely is referencing often seen the intercom sketch so says this and she had said before you were sitting gene right there two feet from the phone say in how why did you not just talk to me yourself. You guys are sitting right next to each other and the intercom one. Ah mr toubon wants mrs wiggins to only use the intercom system even though they are i mean they have one little thin then door between them and then there he's trying to show her how to use it and they're sitting in his office and he's like showing here talk into the intercom and instead instead of doing that. She just talks to him. He liked presses. Mrs <unk> wiggins. Can you hear me and then she just sitting there filing her nails. Yeah she always is yes yes and not speaking to intercom so it made me think of that sketch because of the proximity of the secretary and the other employees <hes> oh. I definitely see that connection. I was just thinking in general about how mrs this is. Wiggins is being asked by mr todd ball to accomplish something and she might take it literally in the not accomplish what he he wants and so whether that's trying to learn how to use the intercom weather trying to learn how to up the security with the buzzer and not let people in in without him approving it whether it's him trying to make a cup of coffee and then she steals the cup of coffee before he gets it. It just continues to escalate to all these crazy places end in this situation keirin. Richard secretary is literally doing what richard has asked. She is calling lure ally to set up an appointment but she is not actually accomplishing it because laura lie will not cooperate so every time karen tries to rationalize it with her or try and talk her down from what she's asking laurel. I will not cooperate and karen confined no way to convince her to do that and then when she's trying to talk to richard she's like i did what you asked. I'm doing what laura lie said in finally laura lion richard just need to have the conversation themselves because karen is not accomplishing it all right. That's that work to certainly karen though is not an airhead like mrs hogan just being foiled by laura live and do we think this is a little mean of laura lie now that i know what the skit is all about. I would not want to be called a mrs wiggins or mr todd ball which she's now comparing richer yeah i. I wonder if more so it's about richard being mr todd bolt old like i wonder that's really what laura lies saying with this <hes> and saying that you're not really eh what you're asking for is more complicated than it needs to be yeah yes exactly because mr bolt loves his new intercom. He loves his new who buzzer locked door he he loves all of his little ways his new technologies because it's another <hes> the lyle lyles at the main cast members name who comes in. It's like all right. You're all set give some intercom your all set changes his door lock type and he loves the way the he does things like no only speaking to the intercom only let people in a fabulous badge yeah so so i think maybe it's richard and how he wants to stick with the way he does things in for all the frustration mr head bal experiences experiences. I almost wonder in his own weird way now. I'm digging way too deep into the psyche of sketch character but he's so committed to his way of wanting to do things but doesn't see how inferior it really is is but in its own way. He also loves to throw these digs at mrs wiggins when he says things that are so mean but they're so funny yeah. I think when she's doing her really really slow walk to get to his desk one time he's like well. <hes> you're a little jesse owens there or for one. He's trying to explain to her how to use the buzzer. It's you know this is like trying to teach a mermaid how to do the splits. My i'm and i laughed so hard some of those lines. They're just good little. They're very good writing and they're also good little character moments yeah yes so i think she is calling karen. Mrs hogan's in some for a couple of different reasons not entirely the air headedness but i don't know. Do you think that she's really calling richard. Mr todd boldt really likes to it feels superior in that. He really likes his very specific way. If things being done to the point of folly yeah he likes the structure. I think that's totally fair yeah so maybe in her insult salt to karen. We've actually learn more about richard. I think so yeah mystery solved a._o. So kyla so taylor. That's our show. That's our show we gotta keep working on this x. Over here. Was that one <hes> but what did you think of our interpretation of mrs <unk> wiggins the carol burnett show you can email us tweet us at the show and so it's show a d. mail dot com in at that order ladder and former yada yada you can send a ferrari tiny tiny letter dot com slash so it's a show check out. Our tumbler links are in our episode description option. We want to know what you're thinking of the show so <hes> find us on itunes apple podcasts whatever they're calling it these days and now house which ended up other accents and letham review we love it and watch carol burnett show have a ball oh my goodness yes and maybe don't watch those early lost episodes on amazon when they're still trying to get their feel just you up the carol burnett show channel on youtube amen and and we will be sharing lots of articles with some of the all time favorite sketches from lots of different people's picks yes. There's so many <hes>. I got a kick out of a lot of them. I'm trying to think that i mean the elephants story was hilarious. The dentist i loved all the mrs wiggins of course went with the wind trying to think what else did you watch in prep for this one the interrogator which is a there's a nazi interrogation you shouldn't going on but they're using a puppet of hitler it. It sounds a lot worse than it is but it's just very funny. The charro episodes which herbert nets characters like khalid. It's a play on charro wpro boy yeah. Go watch him all right. Here's a teaser for our next step. I'll just do this and get out of iraq but you don't have to other and i really we can do all this. No your gas and you deserve to get what you're paying for. We're not paying no but this is where you start paying in sweat. Debbie allen in sweat has left her. She said that.

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Richard Pryor & Tim Conway listen to Dr. Lenden Smith talk about pediatrics, 1979

The Johnny Carson Show

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Richard Pryor & Tim Conway listen to Dr. Lenden Smith talk about pediatrics, 1979

"Either everybody welcome to the Johnny Carson. Show podcast here's your host will schreiner. That's me and I'll be looking back at a show from January twelfth. Nineteen seventy nine with two of the great comedy minds that made us laugh for so many years. The Wonderful Richard. Pryor and of course Tim Conway Tim Conway Anway sadly died in May of two thousand nineteen but I grew up watching Instant Parker and Mikhail's navy. Tim had a funny. You know he had a very funny bit with Dorf. He had four or five videos where he did DORF which was a a guy a very short. It was sort of a dwarf kind of character that he created he would do it from on his knees and the way he moved around. I made it. was you know. I don't think anybody could not laugh. When they met Dorf He had Harvey Korman Struck. Comedy Gold over and over again on the Carol Burnett show particularly when Tim was trying to crack up harvey and Harvey was trying not to break. It was always something that we as an audience. We knew what was going on and we just love watching it. Tim also did voiceover. He was on spongebob. Bob And he was on On a bunch of Scooby Doo and a bunch of things as a voice actor. So that's our show Richard Pryor will get a second but of course Richard. Pryor Richard Pryor is is on the Mount Rushmore of comedy in so many People's opinion But let's talk about the monologue I. It's a short monologue today There's some jokes about McDonald's in a company sunny in England that tried to come out with a McDonald's knock off The big MAC and Johnny gets a few laughs. Out of that that outcomes Tim Conway to plug his special show and then after he plugs it he wants to just leave and it's funny because Tim is kind of a quiet interview as funny as he was he. He's very quiet in the interview and You you know he just really I think is there. The plug is special. I don't know if he's intimidated by johnny or an offer Johnny but You know it's not it doesn't flow like it does with so many other guests then they get into talking about earthquakes. They talk about some of the earthquakes in California. There's a couple of jokes In reference to the interview not really working so I I think it might be a little Inside but it also might have been a little awkward who knows but you give us an unyielding sun the second guess is Richard Pryor who you know as a kid. I think probably one of the first Comedians I saw in the end Sullivan show was Richard Pryor and watching him sitting at the floor at the foot on my parents bed and laughing I think subtly one of the one of the people that made me want to become a comedian and even growing up in a community family when I was a comedian but seeing prior on Sullivan show he just so likable. And he the You know he had in the early stages he wasn't as he got a little more controversial as as his career went on but he was very much you can see the influence of Bill Cosby and others in his early stand. Stand up career days I got to see a many times work at the comedy store. He used to come in and work out his material in the early eighties. When he was getting ready for his His TV specials specials. He would come in the comedy store and we all were in awe so many of the young comedians was standing in the back and watch him work and of course whenever they would announce Richard Pryor special. She'll guest tonight Richard. Pryor the crowd went crazy. So that's a a a part of my comedy memories that I'll never forget. Richard had done a movie. Co California Foreigner Suite with Bill Cosby and it had gotten some criticism and that is one of the things. Richard I guess this seems to bother Richard. Johnny asked him who made up his audience. And he said you know for the most part You know black people or mixed but in this audience long beach was mostly white and he talked about a joke. That couldn't work because it was not not his normal crowd he. He has a funny story about Chinese waiter that he saw and they both talked fondly about China and one day going there. Richard Pryor died sadly at Sixty five years of age in two thousand thousand five. It was his third heart attack and he had suffered from MS for a number of years. Richard had been married seven times to five different women but As is an actor as a comic. He's a legend he's on everybody's list of top COMEDIANS. He was number one on comedy. Central Number one comedian. The comedy Central List. He is rolling stone named him number one of the fifty best comedians. He had a tremendous influence on so many of our young comedians working today because Richard was not afraid ready to attack a controversial subject and find the laughter in and find the humor in in in racism. And everything else that was you no hurtful in those days. So Richard Pryor legend. He redid his own autobiography movie. That he co directed and that he wrote and directed called Jo Jo Dancer to answer and that was about his life although it was not a success It was still an amazing look at his life in nineteen eighty. He set himself bonfire while freebasing which was tragic and he used it. I mean not being afraid to use it in eighty two. He made fun of it in his special and he held held up a match and had a bouncing down. Because this is your impression of Richard Pryor running down the road he was a guy who is not afraid to laugh at himself. He won an Emmy Award. He won five Grammy Emmy Awards. He Co hosted the Academy Awards a couple of times. He's been awarded the Kennedy Center Mark Twain Award. I remember the pairing of him and gene wilder and silver streak. Yeah those two guys just had a chemistry. You can't You can't describe Richard was even superman three. So here's our show. Third guests is a baby. Doctor WHO I don't know where this interview goes. It gets very odd because the doctor comes out. He's he's a great guests in a sense he doesn't wait for questioning. Starts going but there is chaos and lack of focus on on the set. And you'll hear that throughout the interview. It's a short monologue at college. Baby I saw Yanni. Yeah they I hope we have showed justify that I should explain. I'm still at a nutty mood from last night. I'm going strictly bananas. I think there's a full moon. Isn't that close to it late bulletin. I just took off the teletype yes just came on. I think united fresh. CBS announced that all in the family will be returning turning next year with Billy Carter playing the role of Archie bunker. The have you been following the lawsuit in Israel versus McDonald's if you haven't seen that is hysterical but Donald got very angry because some sharpie in Israel I think it was in Tel Aviv. Opened a place called Mac David's in which he sold big MACs and they had the McDonald's logo up there and McDonald's here in this country did not think that was very funny and they sued the guy and they won the first round. The judge has barred Mac. David's the place in Israel from from using the words big Mac menu. Now Mac Davis is that they're not copying McDonald's whatsoever it matter of fact they said mcdavid claims that their a big Mac is completely different in the big Mac you it contains meet the long trip relaxed but we got there and another government report. This was on smoking. Also but something else about it in an effort to get people to stop smoking marijuana in this country the government is thinking about putting a sales tax on rolling paper. Yeah you're right. Yeah so people are coming up with some alternatives Zigzag Today on TV. I saw Mr whipple saying. Please don't smoke the Sharman anyway tonight. I'm looking forward to the show. This is going to be crazy or or we're not. We have Mr Richard Pryor and Tim Conway together on the same we have the we have docker Lyndon Smith a little baby doctor famous baby doctor. We do that all the time. And we're going to keep doing it so thanks for coming and we'll be right with you. Look forward to donate shell for a lot of reasons. We have two extremely funny gentleman. And here's one here. That breaks me up all the time. He has won an emmy. He's given television viewers. Many many hilarious moments over the year especially with the Carol Burnett show and he's going to have his own special. It's called and they had a lot of conference about what to call us and they came up with the executives with the the Tim Conway show they were going to call it. Hello Tim but they decided to call at the Tim Conway show and it's going to there's big conference about this is going to ear. They say what they made the show. It's good that it's going to be shown actually this coming Monday night January fifteen at eight. PM on another network. Do you think people go to other shows on another network and talk about shows. They're GONNA be on this network. Probably hope always say on another network they mean they mean us when they say that. And of course you can check your local chase calendar events which network that is welcome leaking all over the AH Mr Tim Conway Tonight. uh-huh it just just right. Thank you know but it was a funny sketch. Ah personal opinions are not withstand. No it really was. I didn't know you were doing that. Actually live yesterday. I saw you coming running back there where that's stuff give you back very nice. Yeah you've you've heard me talking about those changes you've gone through a lot of those over the years and it does get hysterical back there. I was playing Vegas one time I was supposed to come out in a different outfit. Didn't have thirty seconds to do it in and there were two girls who are changing me which was great and they did the whole thing and I came out. I didn't have the shirt on just the tie and the whole thing and got the shirt you get nothing you can do about it. No No 'cause you're on an IT's show business that's important. Yeah it is your life. Isn't it show. Businesses says my life. Yes for the most part of it. Now you have an exciting it is to get paid for the thing you you love to do is go out and entertain audience. Mary yourself your audience is to get a couple of laughs and make other people smile when you're so miserable and take home a few weeks. Yeah that's important estimate. That's the main thing a lot of people don't think we're in for the money but I am. I've often heard that. Yeah just a a lot of people think I want to get to the top. That's not necessarily so paychecks. The big thing I don't particularly care about ratings or anything if the paycheck clears I and many of them in this business. Haven't but neither here. Yeah I've not seen you for the last time. You only come here when you got something to plug. That's uh so the show will be on money at eight o'clock network. Yeah if I could plug now can I go okay. Should never do the plug at the last last. You see that's right. Yeah it's an interesting show. It's six minutes long. Yeah which is the important thing. A lot of the shows are short but This is We we thought Caroline Joe who are also man and wife as you may know. Nah Joe Hamilton. Didn't you quash quash. Oh you silly because year they thought of a thing that especially I think it Kinda applies to my show that there should be a comedy the patrol that instead of getting a rating that After the show the comedy patrol comes by and if you show is bad they actually come to your house and shoot you. It wouldn't that prevent a lot of bad shows really. Could you'd think twice before you actually put a show on. Vigilante guy comes and says the soya show take it out of show. Business can no longer perform. There wouldn't be much left on television. Well if you only shot in the foot it wasn't that bad you haven't done a special since a special. Yeah I knew there was a time gap the what is. He wouldn't do one Thursday and makes you want to do one every night a special being on every night so it's been some time since you've done your Latte special. It's been almost it almost a year and the last one We were doing. The folks came down from the network and said don't do this anymore. Possibly doing I know they did. That was a funny show. I thought that was the one on. Yeah I was also almost an hour long too. That's important then get an hour long. That's right now. How is the new? You're treating everything going well Real fine yeah. It's been a real good year so that's one of our stock item. You've been here a long time. You will jump at anything. I love the our our the kids and Yeah I love starting with an earthquake. I thought that was good. Yes were you. During one of the first hit I was watching as most people. The Rose Bowl and head to You know get the kids out of the way to get outside because situation gets cluttered with all that door janitor. The people they really are. I've never found that out until a crisis like that. They will try to protect themselves. Liberty is grim. We had the eighth when the other one hit which was about what maybe a year ago. Remember the one that hit early in the morning. Six thirty number of course. Yeah but after the big one. Then you all you got at the flashlights. And you've got The you know everything prepared and you said okay go down the stairway of it hits up there and then one hit about a year later and they all remembered him with six forty five in the morning so we all ran outside in our underwear and There were on the front lawn Eight of us in our underwear now. The people going by in a car. I don't know there was an earthquake or a lot of that tour bus going. By the way home we always come out here and underwear about six forty five. You know I keep saying every time. There's an earthquake for. Maybe you do this. Also you know maybe some first aid supplies Coleman Stove and case the gas goes out and and One of those big beam lights and I never do. Well I think if you have all those provisions would the people who don't have him come and beat you up and take them away because I also have a very big gun. Yeah that's good good at keeping the sore losers away from your front door to you. Every man for himself would hope to become a looter in a situation. Like that's right. Yeah Yeah those are scary though. They really You don't know until you've been through one. They're actually like I am married like one that was about six strangely enough you know Bob Newhart show the night. They had that big when I was about six years ago when a rumbled at about six six forty or six thirty in the morning and that night while we were doing the show there was one of those aftershocks And we heard it from the back of the audience because they felt the building and you were just a new heart and I looked at these. They don't like us. We're dying because you heard this. Aw and we're on and it came down and all of a sudden we you still have the tape. Yeah and you see the camera. Remember we've replayed it and you see the camera just for second. Go like this. Actually with the cameramen yes. He was over already having a couple Margaritas. By the time you know in doing a lot of shows we as we do the physical stuff they put out a wire to do flips and things like that and then they hang when you. I was at universal one time when they thought we funding to leave me there at lunch. You know just hanging twelve feet off the ground so now whenever I do any of those things the the first thing I get a pair of work because if you're doing something and there's an earthquake you don't find a stagehand going we're going to get him down in the forty eight yard. Barstool is on the bus on the way. That was a big one. Yeah you can't screw those things. The situation's critical situation. You keep composed women. They say always looked at men but you find women sometimes are much more calm and can think little clear in a situation like that. I will normally grab a woman it'd be. I think it's important drawer on top of your right. Yeah yeah no I kind of panic yeah. I don't I don't handle that well at all. I try to act calm but I cry everything trying to be cool but unless you've really been an earthquake it's just there's nothing to acquainted with. Yeah it's a little disorienting and everything Kinda goes this way and you don't know what religion and the noise. That's okay. Well that's cute. How do you keep them on their correct? Okay there he goes. Come back here. Can you make him go on your face. McNair you'll be you'll be back in a second okay. Sometimes when things are working we keep it increased. Guess don't really go. Oh well no no no we fly commercial here. You'RE GONNA stay with us a while even though you plug your show. Yeah Yeah okay sure. Okay like most of those big guys so you don't have to get back to the shootings. Good Yup no all right. We'll do this. We're going to say all month actually hear from Richard Pryor Linda Smith Monday night. I want to mention that he's going to be hosting Harvey Korman I'm going to come and sit right in that seat there when he does the model. Oh you're going to get a little spinach not well. That's all you all you have to look at Harvey and goes into he goes catatonic not well and he's going to be a with Bonnie Franklin. Tom Recent Baseball's Bob Ukraine Helen. Gurley Brown on Tuesday night we have the Icefield awkward saying the Best Carson Yen. We have people like Beverly Lee Sills. Who is right there Tony Randall? They're funny comedian. By the name of George Miller and from Cornell Dr. Carl Sagan is with his on Tuesdays League leader. Dick Kavak Tony. Newly Laura Call George Burns Marvin Hamilton and Donald J. Duck. Donald Duck will be on the show. There was a man named Donald. Oh Really J. Duck. I think he's with the Department of Interior's with the United States government and he's legitimate name is Donald Duck and you WanNa talk about going through life with problems. Yeah what a Nice Nice going to be going to a motel in your name. Come out and lock him out in writing that down speak it a harvey. You don't have much admire you and Harvey and they're replaying in that order incidentally not raw. What's up with you and Harvey Notch cracking me up? And they've been re running a lot of the composites of Carol show from around the country and those sketches hold up but you and Harvey have got something going between you. He doesn't seem to be able to break you up very often but you will. Have you look at him you eyeball oh him. Yeah and Harvey that the mouse starts to go the is dance the jaw trembles. He did the the shoulder start to go. Yeah it's a kind of started. We were in his dressing room. One time it's doing the show and he was Dressed in a chicken outfit and had the big feet had red stockings on pantyhose and he had a chicken body and chicken wings and this huge chicken in order to talk to me had to lift up the beach. You know listen. I was dressed as an Avon lady and Dan just sitting there and address can't emotion stockings and earrings and everything and he was telling me something a serious problem which he was involved in Khomeini's and you know I I don't know what he's walking up and down with these chickenfeed going. I feel you know and boy my life and I can see and I'm going. Well you know I I feel I suddenly realized is the chicken talking to a neighbor. This isn't right and I said you don't have. I'm really interested in this. But could we wait until later when you're not a chicken in an not an aimless so we went out to sketch which we never did which is falling downtime. And from that time on I think we kind of whenever we met each other's is kind of said you know these guys that are age ought to get a job for the audience understand sometimes why people get uncontrollable but I guess it's like laughing church or something you're not supposed to be professional ignite. I have been guilty on many occasions of doing nothing more than just getting the giggles coming out all over and not being able to stop. Yeah have you tried to break him up and sometimes I I I could just look at him and he would go but he would try and break me up and he would say something or do something and go and I wouldn't do anything and he'd go nuts and then he would laugh at him trying to break up me right right I sat one time for through a whole sketch for ten minutes with spinach in my teeth. Going like this and he never left and then I fell down. Yeah when you try it. It's tough but he There was one sketch where I was supposed to be a pilot coming onto the set and He opened the door and he said. Are you ready and I was. I had them bring in a toilet and I was sitting on the toilet when he said. Are you ready and off stage stage. And so he started laughing and he had. That was the dress show enough for the air show. I said I wanted to do something even funnier and he said Oh. No you won't give this time so I didn't do. Anything stood there. When he opened the door he went and he was so surprised standing there he wasn't even breaking waiting for the that doesn't happen? Ralf are makeup man was telling me says work for Tim Conway Back in Cleveland Right. I remember you hear you started as a television director. Right in. Cleveland couldn't direct really. I told myself as a director and a gentleman named Ernie Anderson who's now a big announcement does most of the AB Gosh See promos. And they'll never know never figure I sold him as talent and me as a director and he had never Vinh talent and I'd never directed so He had kind of a talk. Show on a movie thing and I never knew how to what they call time. So that when the program ended you actually had the whole movie in that hour and a half and the program always go up and we would never have the end of the movie and it wasn't until we showed citizen Kane. People began to get disturbed because they WANNA see growth but at the end and all very important to them and that's the first time I realize that they're really interested in the endings of movies So we would show the endings of the movies on Friday. Just yeah just the endings. What we have missed just takeo? Yeah that lasted a week. And then they decided that It'd be better if I wasn't a director. Is that what he's got into town with their new Well we had. The show is so bad that we couldn't get anybody to come on as a guest so I would guess too and Ernie would say you know. Here's a bullfighter. Here's a trumpet player players or whatever and I just leave the cameras on on on a bullfighter whatever discreet experience. Yeah sure was then. I mean that I started locally back in Omaha doings ashore the afternoon walk for locally locally because Roy and used to do an hour show L. three times a week with nothing so you start doing everything and actually. It didn't make any different time. Yeah tried to get guests on. We'd say like when Bob Feller was big with Cleveland Indians. We say Bob Feller was going to be the guest today. We'd never ask Bop. Just 'cause would hold an audience that way and then Bob would call and I wouldn't be on that piece of junk and we'd go the next break would say well. He called me. He's on his way traffic. He'll be here Then at the end of the show and say well. Here's Bob. We don't have time. Well maybe tomorrow. And they can't get away without the endings of the movies and the and that kind of stuff lasted about two weeks. And then I was back down writing promos again. Would you take your kids shot. And you gotta you gotTa say to the best of my knowledge about sick about running around yeah. I don't know how old they are. They're not They must be about sixteen eight eight rather there must be kind of a a handful when you go on a trip or vacation or what we take a little plane or You know it's One time I had Three kids playing. Well actually a two kits timmy. Patrick were playing little league. The shows that sense of humor that people have in little league. Because they're rough they really are. I just went to enjoy it for the kids and everything and they asked me to umpire one day. That's all that's the worst but my first boy got up to me. He got a hit. A second got Pat. He got a hit and they were short. That those games you know they go to scores usually average average route. One hundred seventy eighty three when you go to see one of those games. You don't get a seat. Just get a condominium son go on forever you so then nobody ever gets out and they don't have a strike. You just keep pitching to hit it. So you're there for days you know but anyway to my boys are now on second first so they were short so they let Jamie maybe bat now. He's only about five at the time. So Bang hits the ball that rolls of the pitcher now instead of the pitcher throwing the first to get him out. He decides to throw third to get timmy out now. Timmy's started sliding about where the shortstop withstand slid got up slid again slid again. Uh He had the slide down but it was a little early so by the time he got the third. I thought this is great. My three boys choice are going to be on base so the guy was such that have been already you saw this kid sliding sliding so. I figured well I'll tag when he comes over here so tag him. He was out by twenty yards yards. Timmy as he was walking he stood on the base. And I said say well you never saw so many people come on stand. Wait a minute Halloween. Oh yeah they're gonNA kill me made safe you know hey. The scores one hundred eighty five. We care three boys around base. The parents are the ones who take it serious. Oh Yeah and and can lead to fisticuffs and screaming eating. Yeah I forgot involved in that. No that's So they didn't play next year by the way I didn't ask you. Who is on your special when I should have? In order to Carol Burnett Syringes Mason Super And Don knotts and did a picture for Disney called the apple. Dumpling probably saw that for a lot of Academy Awards. And we're doing another one down in Atlanta alcohol. The price become the world championship boxer. You Don's my manager. It's a serious drama village. People you you know they think. YMCA BIG IT. Yup See Jack and Who else gets instead of having grown advances we had a little kid dancers eight to twelve sixteen in those tapping their heads? You know the last here especially when you dance you dance dance extremely well. You know what that wasn't it was the guy with a mask a man come on. It's really talking. We never we never revealed the fact that it was. Everybody thought it was really a rubber mask and that was a guy dancing head up. I only did the closure where I went. I went on and everybody thought it was me. I'm sitting here like a dummy. That's what Isis saying. You know I believe it can figure out of the country but yeah I actually believe things I looked at it and I said Yeah Conway Conway doesn't me too. Yeah and it was just you in the close ups gets right did anybody no. I didn't even know. Actually they didn't people who knew me said that they swore that was me I because it had this rubber masks wasn't credible. Yeah then you don't dance good at all. I'm taking it back. No no I don't dance at all. I have no sense of rhythm. That's six kids but I want to tell you that bad seriously filter. We're going to be my back so stay where you are moving along hair. Hi In my next guest I am. I'm a big Fan of his also starring in the new Neil Silence California suite and on the ninth of February motion-picture call Richard. Pryor live in concert is going to be opening in theaters all over the country which ought to be crazy because he is looking so I was going to mean for the theater. Apparently yeah apparently. They must when he was working in concert and he is a funny man. You Walk Richard. Pryor Argon Argon Rich. I'm fine thank you. Thanks for your life good yes. Everything's wonderful Johnny. This is great. It's really been doing any sniping thing for the new year or anything like that. Keep life interesting. Haven't been doing anything you know. You're talking about the earthquake in the happen. We Watch the game. Ah Yes I was I was. I was in bed watching the kids. My kids running there and they were really scared. And I don't know why I brought that up. Well I remember that in the big one big earthquake I live in a building on sunset and it was a fourteen story building and I lived in on the third floor but it was in the basement and and and it was early in the morning Oranje and I was I was in bed and I was naked and I was just laying there and windows start popping out and I said God this is it and I grabbed a Samurai sword and fifth of whiskey. We've went out in the street and everybody after the earthquake. Everybody's started getting very friendly with black people figure we knew gone. You don't mess with a cat with a Samurai sword in a bottle of whisky neighbor. They were going with a lot of people going. Oh Oh you know just really weird people's like the Valley village of the damned something they had. They are frightening though. Thanks yes people back Isaq Delvin. They think like in the movies really funny is hurts. I just saw your bombing your shoes. They're glomming Mushoo. Yeah I didn't like looking at close much. Use The gold. Yes gold fourteen CARAT FOURTEEN CARAT gold. Things going real good the no. I don't know anything to talk about. My mind left me when I worked out here. I walked off. My Mind's excuse me it happens to me all the time on this show. Nothing no went to the bathroom on. It's okay just put it on hold sitting in a great deal of penny attack helps just it does last night last night. At a moment of sheer panic starts whistling to my nose. Ramona Mona for no reason. Why just went by so doing just my mother's the only person when when you ask my mother's the only person worth calls me and says what have you been doing lately? I'm on every night you'll call me. I don't call every weaknesses. What have you been doing lately? Something I'm of the old television show. What is your mother? Feel about what you do. I mean this house you look at you. I think Paris and children. Sometimes they know you so well as a person and they have not nothing. Special program should their product. Your parents are an Tim's parents but they don't treat you like the general public sees. Yeah Richard Pryor Tim Conway when you go home. You don't get that do not at all if you look at your kids. Look at you and say hi dad or whatever my kids they'll go see somebody else. I remember when I was writing Red Skelton years ago I was wearing a local show. I didn't really wanNA know Johnny took. Well Hey the I told you I told you a lot more than you really wanted to anyway. Now that I'm now that I'm rolling. I was writing for Scalp and I had a little show on. KNX Tea Income Red Skelton. Kids run over to me that the shows you the thing was her dad and one of the biggest stars in the world. They'd see me on television. That's all that's Gregory. He told me one time he was walking with this in man came up and asked for his autograph and his children. So what did you want your autograph for. You Ain't nobody the whole attitude. My kids were in the car with me. Driving my kids were. They said I asked him. He'd been making obscene phone calls. 'CAUSE when you're young you call people go higher. Aren't say something to hang up and my kids confess that they did daughter said I call up somebody and we had a radio contest and I said what was well s dispersants at. WHO's the funniest guy in the world? You Win fifty thousand dollars and the guy said St Maarten. That's that's almost ran off to. I don't see when that light. Steve You gotta get him to get you something for Christmas part next week right and a nice vacation because you're going to be home. I'm going to do this. We're GONNA come right back so but that's a prompt. Remember your last time. Won't you talk about Your Dad. My Dad said he was a strong disciplinarian up. Oh my father would just say things that make you pee on yourself as tough. Yeah he can call him any here yes it was plain fear another your mother. My mother was my mother who knew she could tell him. Look at me. I'm going to tell you and I'd panic because my father had an approach about things you know. He just say things like he'd be reading the newspaper. GimMe piece of paper. He is reading a newspaper. He wouldn't go the trouble next door. The kids next door was really packed. Their father was mean demand would come out and the kids that they they did not hear him. Come in here and get home in three minutes. That was it. And that's all he would say. Go the kids we'd be playing basketball. Can't be going. What yes? My grandmother used. My grandma grandma used to give them trees with switches. You ever have to break them off yourself to get A. My grandma used to make me go get him. They give me something to be and it would be. It would be the longest walk in Rhode Road Hoping it would snow and get the switch in becoming home and it'd be killing the win right and it makes you start crying. You get in the House and my grandma she would just get mad and just would-be with anything like Oh bankcards hurt all on this big old hot water bottles. That's what they call them right not marred about this whole eight gallons of along this embarrassed woman yet but maybe they did that on a I love. Oh sure on below now how are you my discipline tipline very good. I I started out a spanking. I tried so many realize that they can look at us. Spanked me and I would feel awful so I try talking to him. You know and and my kids are real life stuff. If you don't mind I hope you you can put it out right. I mean my kids. One day my daughter rain just came into me and she was talking about. My grandmother had been took her for a ride. I was talking to a lot of approach for eight years old. She looked at me. Daddy I just wish they'd get off my back. That is known as a child. Please ecorse even on the you can understand. That's that's communicated you know what's on your mind right away. She's she's just think I think grandmothers racist everytime we go down the street street says honky distant and my mother's white right. Okay now what am I supposed to do. Okay so now what am I supposed to do. I said well go tell your your grandmother how you feel tell her the truth teller as is a price for telling the truth to Iran. That's the thing if she went in there and I saw her in the yard switch later the win. That's that's a direct parents can understand that kind of us so I talked to my kids. I don't like what you do and I don't think you respect but you. You still love it you still got my heart man they can do stuff to you sit in your lap and just off daddy and that's it off. Real finished guys are push always usually for a little girl. Aw Man it just so beautiful and this is sharp and smart and full of life and they make you happy. They say good things to tell you. Love can't help it cannabis that's beautiful you know. Usually when you're spending anger and they say that yeah no I. I thought I was doing with my parents. Did to me. And that messed me up man. I just going to mess them some of the same way I messed up and I don't want to do that little children okay. We'll take a break. I'll be right back with more eight year old dialogue. The what I mentioned earlier about your concert being filmed tim. Tim Ask me wasn't sure where there was a live performance Wisconsin they filmed your your concentrated you know filmed. I'm to a couple of nights at Long Beach when I was doing things for the court and things do y'all your through the court thing in Just about I only have have to four hundred more concerts and very very aw hopefully not filmed the concert. I wanted you know. Bill cosby our in California's sweet together. Right right and the movie I think's very funny and really got after. Bill is performance not for us but for what they thought it thought. It was a racial slur against us in the film and I heard interesting to talk about and that we ran the film. We only black people and we'd only ones doing slapstick capstick comedy and they the reviewers these white men furnace offensive for black people. They got a consciousness all all of a sudden. And it's not fair to people like Neil Simon her Ross Ray Star Bill Cosby or Gloria Gifford and Sheila Fraser. You know the people that were in the second seconded because we loved doing we're less than a slapstick and that's what it was supposed to be an and not that anybody cares but I wanted to mention case you do care that out I would love to. I work with people anytime because I think men man with a lot of principals we no way meant to do nothing but be funny and that's what I thought thought we were what you see. Four white people have done that same sketch. Nobody would have said anything but see people working. And they didn't like it and the indefensible reviewers you know they are they are really a Ah Nice people I know you know when I go out and have an interview or something and you know you're cutting their meat for and I the IPAD intelligence has a right to feel so you need them a little bit and they read a review. I should have done that. We've we've show you do life as a big long on the dollar is going to say this is all it is and they lied your well. I don't believe leave that well. You're you're entitled. No yes I don't where where we hear. We hear my mind just came back all right rich so anyway what kind of people to get your thoughts pretty pretty much more blackmore whiten. Well I would say this audience is mostly white here but not in my concerts. Usually when I I did one concert one time I walked. ONSTAGE was nothing but white people and audiences scared me to death I did I want. I usually go relying uses like like open. I look at the audience and say why people you know because it's hardly like to white people in audience so it was really funny but you walk out all white people that ain't funding. What are you going? Go Yeah look at you sure and usually win a lot. Usually when people come see me work they usually take notes Are Look like they're doing some kind of sociological research. What does that word mean? Is that really Do they talk. Like you've got a good mix of an audio. Yes I would I I would look. I think I have a good mix of an audience. Was that your question I used recently and I throw in black people here at home I do have a I have a mixed not many Chinese people real yeah. They're kind of hard to laugh though they really don't laugh we'll how would you like to go to China to go to China. I would feel I would just learn. I just think Chinese food is so great and I would love to go to China. Chinese people probably got some weird ideas about black people. You know any place usually were white. Americans go real. We say by Pierre Tails you know and things like that in Chinese we would probably be looking at you. No I just think China is billion. People you should be friendly would be anything the do we ought to you. I went to a Chinese restaurant. Wait a minute johnny. And the funnest thing I've ever heard my life. Why the Chinese waiter that stuttered I mean? The man was studying in Chinese. The the F. in France is trying to help him get mad but we go to China. I WanNa go with you. Conway Pat McCormick. Oh my God Harvey Korman. We all got together and they will probably end their diplomatic relationship with the United States. Next week for a week it would all be fun. Be An awful lot of fun fascinating people as you say you got a billion premiere. China's spits in the right guy has tried to ask the networks to edit out that part when they showed the film because he's talking to the magazine Magal phone please those parts causing the image not really really folksy atmosphere or A. Thank you break. We'll be right back. The doctor Lyndon Smith is with US tonight if you hadn't met him. He has his television shows. Not As long as yours special special. It's a matter of fact it's a minute and a half syndicated television messages throughout the country called House calls. He's been with us before. And he'll be with us again. Dr Lyndon Smith. Congratulations on your on on your master's when the other night and they they had a little review of a book by Lord Trimming called undertow between ended it said and I thought at this is the answer to all pediatricians. We should know this and have it on the wall and said Lord trimming him said The lady is never wrong now. I've found that my wife has has been telling me that for you but if you don't see it in print way usually don't get that message that when a woman brings her child with the opposite said he's sick. He's sick and you keep looking finding finding sicker. You make him sick or something because the kid the kid is sick and you can't examine say he's not sick because they'll go to another doctrine that's bad for business so you find or you find. He's got pin worms or you know there's there's something that's going on with that child because the mother knows best. It's ready when the baby has come from her. She's he's live with this kid for twenty four hours a day and the father brings a kid and said my wife says he's sick looks okay to me so And so he's not you know but we believe the woman I and really makes some sense and we've been to the times we're burned by the time we don't believe that woman so for Heaven Sake of a woman comes on and says something thing believer you just nod your head. It's not being henpecked is. Just it's God's truth. They've got some messages that God gave to them when they say something. The my wife says that the the bad behavior of our children is from the bad genes from the father side of the family. And it's often did you get rummage response and ask you a question if I've been reading. PA aided erupted opted. You know you didn't interrupt me at all I just doctor and you're on your on Western Airlines Lord Trimming Amazon. Get you to listen more. Oh yes I didn't. I wasn't aware that he said she wants to get full. Among other things Portland Oregon was just wiped out. We just still we were on the purported. We've got the ice up there that you wouldn't believe and my my wife again who Who believes in UH sometimes? She thinks that she said you know what's happening tonight. Because we were in thirty nine degrees huddled around the zero around this uh-huh package causing birdwell. And she said you know what we're doing we're talking we're usually watching TV or complaining or talking on the phone. We were talking to one another. And that's sort of bad weather forces people to get together. So what's What's new in medicine? WELL WE'VE GOT A. We've got flu going around that you wouldn't blue. Let's clues. Lewis is very bad. Why oh I can't think you're the flu dot? Well we can all yes yes just ahead of it a three and out now we have what they call a Russian type blue now. That's right yeah roping flu. And they're all the same basically it's high fever and a headache in your eyeballs hurt. You don't WanNa the all hurting and then the fever comes down and then there's this are kind of it goes on for seven days so it's a ten day illness. It's a very standard type. There's nothing nothing you can do. There is of course a lot of things. We're going to take you some of the best. The best present gin lemon juice and honey lemon on justin how we run out of that one nine. The kids came in were standing in barking by the bed one night and I had to give them. I didn't have the right ingredients. It was Bourbon and some antihistamine and some molasses was so bad they never complained again. So if you make the cough syrup tastes too good. They're in there every twenty minutes prompting and barking and stuff so you have to kind of watch that but we it does. It does work. If you know it's coming you have a question for Dr Richard about the children have ills in Rachel doctors in kids. That are brewers are more likely to get beaten by their mothers because they're more likely to be in bad behavior but we'll give him some cough syrup. These kids are all well. Jim Do you have anything wrong with your kids at home or I'm sorry. This is some research John Research on people that end up as they have the people like this or more likely been very tickly his little children. Were you ticklish. No no the only lately by those who are going to be more likely to be sensitive. It's just a little rule and you notice the stethoscope open. We can't feel this. Wait a minute trip with a handkerchief. Gives me on what you can do that. Famous magic trick that you do at parties but I guess not I. I just just blew his nose. That's it might my work with children who have Give teachers trouble in school or that. They're very sensitive. Goosey kind of kids and I'm invented them but I can't have this along with a lot of feathers teacher at sounds like Dave school has the as the kids all my down supine on the floor naked preferably and she lowers pool with a further on it and see which kids Sa- break I and those are the ones that are going to have. Yeah they're they seem to have more trouble but we are sensitive to hypersensitive children in trouble in school. So we'd like to isolate them or find out because is there some things we can do. But we're we're if we haven't gone too far past the flu I could go back to short because we there there are some people Framingham. Ah Trimming back up the. There's some people do respond. Oh the vitamin C.. And it might be worthwhile to take enough by. Does it take. Who Much of it you? Your body will respond. I had a woman told me that it didn't work. Sure Chow kept throwing it up as fast as she was getting down but it was she was doing something for the child. And that's it's important to that you feel that you're you can't just sit there and see your got sick but there. There is a point if your if your child has pneumonias blue. I and one hundred five where you're not gonNA sit around. Give it vitamin C.. You might but do it on the way to the doctor. Don't get sort of a limit to this health thing. I agree with many many of the health concepts. But there's a point when Richie tell at this kid was turning blue ways. See the I've had many black people come in with CIANCI. She the rash Yes of course just to point out a typical spot and they they will and Oh yes. We see a lot of that and I. I don't know I'm not. I didn't do very well the new about well. We're nothing that you you look when you when you hear kicking up again and You like when you were a child whose parents in the other room. Don't no no no we try to have them in the office there with us because we should save some time and ask questions in the His little happier if they often feel the parents of abandoned them and that sort of dirty trick. We try trying not to be tried to try to get through the exam without the child crying which is another kind of a trick when they get to a certain age maybe after their twelve thirteen or fourteen. It's amazing how much they'll let us look at things in the body but not their parents kind of hiding in the corner there. Let me take a look at this and that It's okay well. This was a different show. I'm sure you felt it a little bit. There were some awkward moments in it. Hope you'll tune in subscribe arrive tomorrow the Johnny Carson Show podcast. That are coming out weekly every Sunday night. We've got a new podcast for you. So we're going to keep going and we're gonNA keep interviewing some other famous famous people from the show I've got on my list Theresa Ganz L. who was wanted the mighty Carson ours players She played a lot of the sketches threes fender mine. And she's GonNa I sit down with me and we're GonNa talk about her experiences working as a side kick Johnny and all the sketches so tune in and keep listening to the Johnny Carson Show. PODCAST I'm your host will Schreiner and I will see you next time. Thanks again. Please subscribe bye bye.

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It's Monday, Are You All In?

Morning Moments Matter

14:08 min | Last month

It's Monday, Are You All In?

"Good morning. We are demoing Michelle Hill would connect over coffee and this is the morning moments matter. Show, we open every Monday Wednesday and Friday for about ten minutes over a cup of coffee to give you a shot of caffeine. Good news and inspiration. Welcome to our kitchen. This Monday your morning moments matter. How you took your day, is how the rest of your day is going to go. So, we're starting today with some fun and celebration mr. Mill, what are we celebrating today? Well, today, I had a dilemma, I do these research and usually get something jumps out and it says, pick me. That's the one I choose cuz there's several. But today, there was two one involved coffee, which is a no-brainer. I couldn't skip that way. You know, it's a natural. The other one is involved in following your passion. So that's the one you really wanted. You just couldn't turn your back on coffee. That's the story coffee. Yes, these first. Yep. But first coffee and then the other side. So the other one as I said, well, this one looks kind of interesting too was follow your passion, do what you want to do and that's what I'm doing. So what does a double rainbow day, man? You get to the first one. The coffee one is National Coffee milkshake Day, July 26th. Okay, cool. Beverage that really hits the spot on a hot summer day. You love ice cream. You can use a caffeinated sugary boost to go along with it. Do you think you need to sell anyone on the idea of a milk bath know? But you never know. You might somebody may not like a milkshake who doesn't like milkshakes? Anyone who can't drink milk large was like that's true you know cows that's why we have two for you today. That's right. Just in case in all its Ultra lactose intolerant people. You can just wait another one. Wait a minute. We got another one coming. So to your rescue if you do like coffee milkshakes on a hot dog Is the coffee milkshake. You add ice cream and a lot of different flavors and it helps you to discover the true Taste Of Summer, which is in opposition to National Hot Dog Day which was last week, which is another taste of sandwiches the false taste. I like milkshakes. I used to make them all the time as a kid, I like coffee and dessert flavoring. So works for me. I think we should make some tonight. Oh, okay. It was first made in Rhode Island that large State delectus, Pharmacy. They somehow decided to put coffee, ice cream called milk. All together and mix it up and put it in, probably be cool. Little glass and served at delectable delectable atelectasis such a small state made a huge contribution to the coffee and ice cream world. What else did they do? I don't know. I'm sure there's something better good in Rhode Island. They there are lots of good things in Rhode, Island. Now affect the Newport News jazz festival. Yes, that's a good thing. Yes, we can have a coffee milkshake and listen to Jazz. Same time, sounds good to me, Road Trip, the second for the lactose intolerant people off your time, to turn back in its National all-or-nothing Day July 26th. Also, it encourages people but like another day has passed since we're, you know, the last five minutes, it encourages people to give their all to everything, they want to do whatever dream they want to embark on. Give it your break the limits in your mind that that have already been set. Preconceived take those risks. So now you can let the Daredevil out like that little chipmunk over there and achieve the tasks that you were too cautious to even think about doing before. So today. Yep. Now, for those of you who watched live, one of the advantages of listening to the podcast, is that you get at the end of the podcast, you get some green room chatter, as what we call that, we just silliness and the the Chipmunk is a reference to that. That's true. I have no way to know what we're talking. The disclaimer that was good. I didn't think about that. Sometimes I forget that we do this two ways, it's live on Facebook and then we have it as a podcast later. So sometimes I forget that if you didn't watch it either, you're not listening to the chatter, you don't know what's going on, so thank you for that explanation. So, so that all or nothing because all in these all in with that little helmet, safety helmet, do the thing off, do what you want to do with every fiber of your being. That is the main essence of all or nothing. And the reason it resonated with me was one of them, my favorite movies that I got you to watch during the pandemic draft day with Kevin Costner. It goes through all the stuff that happens on draft day. And in the movie, he's the coach of the Cleveland Browns. He has the number one pick, he has a favorite player, who was a great player has great character, but not projected to be number one, but he wants him. And if we don't find this out till later, with the beginning of the movie, he writes on a little sticky note, Vontae Mack, no matter what, which is the name of the player that he really, really wants. Then he trades away the first pick. Everybody is upset, and it goes crazy ups and ups and downs, and all kinds of twists and turns, and I won't give away the movie. Watch the movie. I won't be a spoiler. But Michelle, and I've used this is our Mantra with all the new business ventures. We are doing. We have a lot of ups and downs. Took turns we feel like quitting like Kevin Costner wanted to quit as well. But we're going to do it, no matter what, Vontae Mack, no matter what, it is a good movie, for sports perspective, it's good for a feel-good story, it's good job. You should watch it. We all have dreams that we hold back that we hold onto and are too afraid, too afraid or too, afraid to do it decisions. Things like that plans, go uncompleted. So this song, Break Free of everything. Holding you back, and take those steps. And drink a milkshake. Yes, the company do the gasoline. The caffeinated milkshake will help you take the steps, just do the thing, drink the milk. Shake to no one needs to mention. Well, speak for yourself. So today is good news story. We have another feel-good, teenager story. I think it's becoming a a category of good news stories because we have one about once a week but it's inspiring to see what those people who are either considered too young or too old how they can make a difference when they're not thought to be able to make a difference. Yeah, I just butchered that complete sentence. Well, this is a story about Keira noisy. He was a seventeen-year-old with a whole lot of hair. He had been cultivating an afro. Since he was really young, his parents were chronicling it on social media. So he was, that was his boss. He was well-known for this, massive amount of hair. And when he was about to enroll in the US Air Force Academy, he knew he was going to need to cut it off, that's what they do. That's that's very first things they do is intent had always been to donate it to charity. So he decided that now was the time. He had a goal of raising $1,000 per inch, and here's what he said, wage my hair is 19 inches long, and that $19,000 will do so much good to help families dealing with cancer. One of my good friends in Middle School died from cancer and I know Saint Jude really helped his fax. This is just one way that I feel like I can give back. It will also help make some really good wigs for kids. So, please donate and help me reach my goal. So, he had a fundraiser event in front of about a home. People at a local Huntsville, Alabama, Brewery and had his hair cut. So not only did he raise money for Saint Jude. He also donated the hair that was cut to a michigan-based. Charity named children with hair loss. It's a nonprofit that provides human hair, wigs, free of charge to kids and young adults suffering from medically-related hair loss. So, what I haven't told you is how much money he raised and Tim loves guessing games. I hate them, but in love them. So, what's your guess? How much do you think he raised? Well, God, you didn't put it in here, I usually don't, we don't read ahead on our stuff so and you didn't even put it in here. If I did try to cheat I wouldn't be able to but dollar an inch or $1,000 an inch 19 inch. So it's $19,000 being ambitious. I would say maybe double that like forty thousand over $39,000. Wow, I hate when he gets it right off. Cooking fun for me so over $39,000. All he started with was a bunch of hair and if you think that you don't have the resources to do a jumping look around you. I bet you. I bet you do. Yeah. That is a good way to whatever you have, whatever your circumstances. You can find a way to help people and he doubled up with the wigs and the money. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I thought so too. Today is to go cut. Quote, is from Carol Burnett, one of my favorites, only, I can change my life. No one can do it for me. This was actually in the research for the all-or-nothing day. Thought it fit and I use that she was a pioneering count. Comedy, she still is, she's not dead. She is a pioneer of comedy and she followed her past. She's best known for her groundbreaking comedy clubs to show The Carol Burnett Show. There was one of the first of its kind to be hosted by a woman. She has achieved success on stage film, and television, and comedy, and not, she's, she's so versatile. And that show always makes me laugh. He's a fan, big fan, just the writing was, was gray, the skips are funny. So I kind of characters, most of the time, they broke character and laughed, which is hilarious. And they have read about how they made it a game to see who could make who laugh and Harvey Korman. Always broke first. Tim Conway, rarely broke, but he was the one who gave People break all the time. So no. The extra information about The Carol Burnett Show. Don't I regretted getting you started. Oh my goodness, real imagine here. It's a good quote. It's so easy to put off responsibility on other people for making change in our own lives, or to want to make change for other people. But change, only happens if we do it ourselves for our own life, and if we work at it, so today's homework is not to go make change happen, because that's a more than one day assignment to thinking question, take a look at your own life, and look at where you want to make change, but you aren't taking responsibility for making it happen. If it is to be, it's up to me another a double bonus quote. So you get to national holidays and to close that Monday off. Today's episode is brought to you by the morning moments matters box. If you want an easy step into a morning routine, this morning moments matter box, super simple way to take the time that you use brewing your morning coffee and turn it into them. Jewel that will start your day in a positive frame of mind. Great coffee. And we have some really fun coffee this month. Yes. And a ritual that engages your body mind and heart and you can still get that. For the next day would be 48 hours today tomorrow and you can check it out over connected or coffee. Link back /, mmm. Yes. It's going to be some great coffee, great backstory for that, really excited. That actually Michelle found Mister while we were driving on a road trip, it's going to be good. So thanks for joining us this morning. We look forward to coffee and conversation each Monday, Wednesday and Friday with you. So make plans to join us on Wednesday until I remember that your best day starts this morning, State cabinet of y'all. Ready. Ready? Ready are you recording? Yes, we're alive. We're doing alive and we're not it's a lot of right? Right now, it's the dog. It's a very dedicated audience. He is so engaged. Look at him. He's snoring snoring. He is out Out. Boy, You're putting so much pressure on me by putting pressure on you or just looking at, you know. But you're like, we need more chatter. Be funny. Now. Come on. Be funny. Now. Be funny. Now, now, now, No pressure, but be funny now. There's a Creator. I think it's the Chipmunk Chipmunk song because he was wearing a red helmet. Well, he's a safety third. How does that make it third? Well, if it was Safety First, you wouldn't even be up that high in the bush. Oh, he had safety gear. Iran. He's a safety oriented to maybe he doesn't have a parachute. He's not that high. It's probably higher for a chipmunk than for us. True, you know, in proportion to the high temperature. Have you talked to this chipmunk? We should interview him for our other podcast or dangerous animals podcast. Cuz we need another pocket. Yes, but we do. All right. Are we ready? Okay. We've had enough.

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Billy Wayne Davis - Small Town Guy - Big Town Comedy

MinddogTV Your Mind's Best Friend

1:16:27 hr | 5 months ago

Billy Wayne Davis - Small Town Guy - Big Town Comedy

"Why is oprah appearing in shag carpet. We'll talk about that more on this episode of the mind. Tv podcast and welcome my friends. He had another episode of the mind. Dog tv podcast. I'm maddie joe. Napa aka my dog. Thanks for coming. It's great to have you here as always certainly wanna thank Craig drowning for making it. Happen and andy enders for making it happen in the end of course whereas issues with andy check. Them out. Patriarch dot com issues with andy. The best podcast the funniest podcast in podcast universe It is what the what podcasting was developed for. Quite frankly andy. On a roll is the best thing that ever happened to podcasting by none It is the funniest podcast out. There available now only on patriots and So i hope you'll check that out so big. Thanks to andy for making this happen tonight. See my guest as arrived tonight This is going to be a battle of the accents. I'm i know from My work that he is kind of hyper aware of his accent. As i am of mine. Although i can't hear my accent i'm sure he will be able to hear my accent Pronounced and i will be able to hear his. It's gonna be a challenge to see who wins out and who ends up talking like the other guy before the end of the night with and gentlemen Billy wayne davis is a stand up. Comedian writer and actor who has performed in forty one states four countries in texas. That's just not right man. You may be just texas already Here's appeared on conan last comic standing What the fuck with martin. Marin and he's voiced characters on adult swim Squid billy's a hosted a documentary for cmt Curious about he's opened for some struggle simpson's living the dream tour and we comedy albums. Billy wayne davison. Billy wayne davis live at third man. Records isn't gentlemen. Please open your ears. Opening minds helped. Me walk in. Billy wing davis of the mind dog wayne. How are you wonderful man. how are you doing. I'm doing great thanks for coming. It's great to have you here. I'm going to be here. So i wanna. I wanna start off with talking about the incident incident with the mushroom party for you. I think it was your birthday. That busy youtube story on there and i don't want you to do material and i never asked. Comedians do material on the show but the story itself. I think is is important for people know because i want to share something with the bank. Get to know the story. Could you share that with us. Of course Yeah i i was in my in my twenties early twenties i was in college. I still kind of an my sister had just a. I think they're still. They're not together. She's married to different but they're still friends a like him ally. He was one of my favorite boyfriends. She ever had Ahead was my birthday in. So i was coming down to chattanooga where they lived. My parents live like an hour and a half in there so they met us. We're going to have dinner. And i knew we were gonna trip mushroomed later like after. I did the dinner with my parents. But i didn't know he had seen the whole evening. So the dinner we had with my parents. There was like mushroom paid and he was just dropping very heavy. Kant's the whole time where i was just like man. My parents are cool. But they're not like you know they're not going to be like okay with that's doing drugs and tell them you know what i mean. There's still going to be like adding do that. That was kind of one of my questions was because i'm assuming your parents have age. My people my age are hip with mushrooms but How old are your parents. Would you say early sixties or something. Yeah early eighty. Yeah so they not to unhip to the idea of mushrooms. But i did. I'm sorry to interrupt your story. But i thought that was because i was thinking your parents were like may like old mushroom heads from the aids cool with. I don't think that they were like they were like you know this is evil but i think they were dislike more like hey. Could you be a little more respectful towards us. Old people hide this stuff where it's like the parent allah have Two year old. There is a part of like. I'm going to prepare you for what this life is I'm not going to act like this stuff doesn't exist. Does that's super dangerous when people do that. But i don't want you to do it in my face. not like. There's a certain like he was just being very obvious about it. And i can just say my dad very very sharp. My mom's a little more oblivious about drugs and stuff like that but my dad's is you know he's he's a pretty hip did I just saw him a couple of times. Why does he keep saying talking about mushrooms. So and they kind of like they. I think my dad was on just. He prolonged the dinner which was an odd thing for him to do not something he normally did see. He's like me where it's like. Hey doing good all right. We'll move along do our thing but looking back on he was messing with us which is really funny and and then i had like so dude balance so i had to hang out longer and he went and took them before. I did so when i got to the other apartment. They were so far ahead of me. That i was like i'll catch up because i wasn't you know we were young. We didn't really fully understand what we're doing anti the rest of the bag. I poured all this sprinkles and stuff down my throat. Which is i don't do that anymore. Because you catch up to them. But then like i said in the video i just catches blew right past them and i was in a different spot and those are fun. It was like one of the more Goofy trips i've ever had right but And one of the key hallucinations. And this is the point. I wanted to get to which oprah winfrey each Coming to you from a shag rug. Do i have that correctly. Yes shag carpeting. And i kept saying different people in it and then oprah came. I'm not a huge oprah fan. I mean i think she's impressive. I'll give you know what i mean. But she's what she does isn't direct. I'm not in her. Demographic i know i can relate believe me. I'm not mad at oprah. But she's not for me Like i bought though the latter her but but when she popped up i was like that's weird and then it was just like one of those very true moments you have when you're tripping where she's like god the black lady blah blah and i was like. Oh yeah that makes sense one nation for you. My friend had people email me. If it's the same thing. I think it might be. I don't think it is the same thing In one thousand nine hundred ninety one. I had a television show. And i'd need to obey you. This could freak you out a little bit so try to stay bouncier. I had a television show and here. I don't know if you can see this picture. But i'm talking about a shag rug and if you see in here that's a nineteen ninety-one so it kind of looks like oprah around that period of gold neck and this is a shag carpet and i'm talking about so that that was a barf stained from being too drunk and when i when i threw up it stained the rug and i'm like holy shit. The rug oprah is appearing in my rug with of and so i had a history of that so it could be. It was a stain on the rug. That just kind of that could be it yes Revisited that apartment. I i did drive by a year or so ago and you know when you you forget about nothing you driving where that. That's where we did. I think i was with my mom. And dad's i didn't say that wild but a when i the muslim well somebody at call me when that video came out i guess it was probably like almost a year ago now or about a year ago and said hey remember that did on on the rug with with oprah some guy said. He saw it mushrooms that i checked out the videos. Like while that's uncanny showing up in san rugs everywhere. I i am in i m all horde. I think she has more Our i'm impressed that she's going after the queen of racism. That's pretty powerful. What right now. I don't think people fully understand what she do that. Well i try not to even Pay attention to pop culture. I know there was a big thing going on with our you know. She interviewed the royals. And all that stuff. I am so disinterested in the royal family. And i don't get why americans care about it. 'cause we we sent them packing curiously like i have you know. I've had friends throughout my life. They loved the royals. And i've always been like that's a very strange thing for us especially to love. Yeah a totally. I mean we kick them out. They were the ruling rulers then. We kicked them out and sent them home. And now all of a sudden we want. We want worshiped him from afar. It doesn't make any sense to me but So anyway so with you. Now i think a lot of people don't realize that you started out as an athlete right. Yeah very much into baseball. But somewhere along the line you went from just being A guy who was funny at parties to wanting to do up. What made you want to Get into standard. I i think it was ever in the church like in going to church in the churches. They figured out they were the first people to figure out that i was good at speaking in front of people didn't necessarily like it but i did recogni. Is that when. I spoke in front of people. People would listen for whatever Also never had that public speaking public speaking fear. Like i've never had that like and i know it's a big fear for people but for me. I always had understanding that most people wanna listen if you're speaking through there so if you're prepared it's not a big deal So and then you know the church recognize it. And i recognize you know as i got older. I was like man. This church doesn't make sense to me and then then i got into like Some some they had me do fundraising stuff. I didn't realize in. I saw some of the money. Come out. this is just flat bad whether in they're using me to do it not seventeen or eighteen in was but my dad and My dad always really quality comedy. They just what he liked growing up like he talked about seeing snl. He was watched the first episode. They he had richard prior albums. And where we're from. That's pretty crazy that he had all that stuff and was just like it wasn't he didn't light garbage. They as i got to become a comedy. The comedian get into communism. A nerd about it. I was really shocked. I was like oh dad. Didn't that input bullshit. He knew what was good. And what was so. I had my mom than english teachers. Who had this like. He's a history teacher. I had this sango and in my brain. And i was funny after. I quit plan. I was funny on the team in baseball I think. I got that from being going through puberty later. If that makes sense. I was good at sports but i was always smaller so i had to run my mouth and be smarter than everybody to compete and then i got bigger later i was like oh my mouth and hit you this bon of and but then i'll play baseball for a couple years in college in realize that like i could probably play farther but it would be. It wouldn't be fun. It would be this grueling like a bonus baby that's gonna play millions of dollars and take care of sal recognized. That doesn't seem like a fun lies to me at all to win. Partied in had a girlfriend that noticed. I watched comedy a lot. And i was funny and she said you should try. Stand up and i was like buying in We broke up between the time. I signed up for the first of mike in did it. Which i mean. It was a good bright. You know it wasn't like an ugly breakup. I'll we can't be together any more choose now. We can't and it was a right One of the better breakup of my whole life. If i'm being honest. It sounds like a miracle break-up. I don't think i've ever had a situation like that. My wife in any relationship ever it was yes she and i i mean we were friends. Probably more than lovers by the by the end if that makes it you know we were young so we didn't understand it necessarily but we understood each other and i think that probably made it easier. Does she allier see part of your life but she know what if the success you've been become added in a no take some credit for it. I would be no. I haven't that. So i mean i have mentioned her being important to the to the being an important catalyst to me doing it and you know supporting the in that way and pushing me that way but now i don't i mean her name's natalie i'm gonna put her on blast but i should look her up. I don't know if she got married or anything. I know where she's from. And don she left or she went very far from their minus edges. Good i did this. Because i should look her. She's great. i'm sure she'd doing fine. I'm wondering i'm just curious. If he's bragging everybody i am. The reason he went into comedy Curse to me because one time of coming down escalator at universal studios and They took a picture and they came over and said we want to use you photo on the tonight show this week and my friend was with means that you one hundred dollars if you tell everybody i got you on the tonight show so people are like that. They like to take credit for stuff. And i know several people who are successful in comedy. Who people who were influential in them getting on stage. The first time off his brag about it like you know i was at first night did comedy and i'm on the reason i got him up on stage. We a little bit lit drunk at all. Because you say you didn't have any Fear of public speaking but No you're so right about that one really bugged me. The first time i went up i was. I went with a couple friends in high school. I was still going to college. They went to another school but they met me. I think they just wanna watch me ceo a little bit. you know. he's old friends. Kalpa what you do this like a. I'm not mad at him. I would've done the same shit. But i will go what you did it but then i have a little bit of whiskey before not like to get drunk distillate like i was like. I'm nervous so i had a little bit. And then i got some nervous that i threw up which i didn't know was i've seen people do that in sports but i just thought they were being dramatic. I didn't know it was so then. I got more nervous that i was nervous. And then the guy on before me eight. She hit so hard. That i was just like. We're so relieved of the i. I can do better than that. And i had some good job like i took a month to really write my jokes and stuff so i have some jokes like some actual joke look back. We're not bad it's not. They weren't great but they were jokes. And that put me ahead of a lot of the open markers. 'cause i could write and then once i got on fatos very comfortable and then i got that i laugh. You know in that's all you. I mean i'm still here. You know that was. It was oddly. Relieving because i was lost in my life at that point because college is really easy but i didn't know what i didn't. Nothing appealed to me. They can go to college. That is the key. I that's why i think and i don't to get off on that tangent but i think colleges awakes for a lotta people if you don't know why are you going are. You should wait until you know what. What are you going before you go. Yes yes yes. I wasted about six thousand dollars for about two or three years and then i mean not wasted other other communication classes and some business classes that the for sure gave me leg up once i got into the entertainment industry. So that you start and you fell in love with it. Pretty quickly d- 'cause i i know the answer for this for me do you do you plan on doing that for the rest of your being. Stand up comedian until the until the day you die. Yeah but not not. Like i thought i as i get older. I don't need. The thing is much if that makes sense. Yeah i guess you know what. The pandemic has has changed my attitude towards performing a lot. I mean i used to just live for Thursday through sunday when when you get to perform and After like two weeks of being locked down really missing. As much. As i thought i would and then two months later i was like you know. I'm kinda liking not gigging every weekend sometime myself. But i always thought you know if when if and when i die will be on stage and that's how i wanted to go and full yet like i i saw harvey I was six months into doing stand up and my aunt and like i said everyone around me. A great Comedy they they had good comedy instincts and they liked the comedy. I went with my mom and my aunt z. Harvey korman and tim conway lot while and it will was. I was six months into doing. Stand up to harvey korman at the end. They brought out a cake and he turned seventy seven on stage. And i talk about this a lot especially until young comments is like that was a huge thing for a because it changed the way i was chasing this thing. It changed the way. I went about it six months in to be like oh the goal is to do it for as long as possible. It's not to be shooting fucking star and be famous and then you're gone are the key is to get really good at it so you can always do in that. I knew i was. This is gonna take longer than the way. Everybody's going about it right now. But i'm fine with 'cause i mean honestly until young comics it's tied berries. That one time to me in the group blow is just to me but he said when comics asked him for advice like they're asking for a shortcut can always tell them. If you're not enjoying this already you shouldn't be doing. And i was like that's my thing is like another. You know these things happen you on your path that keeps you going on your path like a one of the funniest people i've ever met in my whole life to this day. I've met legitimately you know some lavonia people in the world now These guys so amana makes me laugh. sharp he was my roommate. He's older than name. Little older than me by six five or six years over me with star over my together and then we started Tour in a little bit. You know just going on road gigs. Just hailed gigs evening. We could get an. I loved every single part about. I like to being on the road i like. I like the hotel room. The sheedy until room like not knowing what tomorrow where we're going to eat or like all up like the crowd elect figuring out how they were trying to screw you like all that game. I was immediately like this is awesome. He hated every single part of except for being on stage and he says add himself enough able. He was so aware of who he was as a human. He was also very good at computers. That was his other thing. He likes film the standup once he started doing standup he realize l. This isn't permit. That was like a huge gift for me to see somebody be like. Oh there's the there's going to be part of this that if you're not cut out for you can't make because there's just so much to i was thinking about this the other day and Basically you know. I could have. I could've made an effort to be standing against him. I'm not saying. I could have been successful at it but i did make. I did start to do it. But at the time i was doing i was already A musician and getting paid well and So a typical guy would get you know. I'm talking many many many many decades ago Three hundred fifty dollars for a gig and half the take off from the music to a net. Three hundred fifty dollars. Then i'd go to a comedy club have to bring my family pay for dinner for them and so i'm losing three hundred fifty dollars plus what i'm paying for dinner ain't walking out of there with nothing of course me five hundred dollars to do a gig comedy and i always say you know as much as i love telling jokes and trying to be funny if cost me five hundred dollars every time to do again. It's not worth no always young. You know i was like twenty two twenty one twenty two when all this started going twenty usually three-month started traveling doing it and that's the perfect time to go through all that to get your ass kicked in because you can take it and you don't really understand you know you don't have stuff to lose which i thought was really important and i heard patent also say years later. I didn't give myself any other option in i was like. Oh that's what. I did just didn't realize doing that was yeah. It's constantly but that a lot of success people will successful people say that basically. I didn't have any other choice. I put on blinders and that was the only option. I think what in some cases it takes to make it not in every case certainly but in some cases for sure i would regard to your roommate. I think the road can be romantic and fun when you're young but if you as you get older and probably as you get to be a family man it thought to get like you know the sutton waimea out a little bit and so for me. It didn't happen until fifty forty. I would say i noticed a change. The way i touring about five years ago Because there was a part of it the way the clubs set up didn't make sense financially anymore. they still don't I noticed that and the way they were booking is in they still do. It makes no sense like m- months months ahead of time where you're just like this doesn't make sense is that some of these people aren't going to be you know what i mean. It's this old lady way of doing stuff. It doesn't but i toured with musicians off and on and open for them when i was living in seattle and realized. Oh i can do i. Can i can tour like musician. That where i can do one or two nights and we're gonna go do one night and then in dad really opened things up. Because i could be home more. I could do more writing co stuff and kind of get into that world and not always be on the road where i could go out for. You know seven to fourteen days straight in work my ass off which is the way i enjoy doing it anyway and then come back and be home for a couple of weeks so like the the quarantine happened then. I watched a lot of my peers. Lose their gourd because it never occurred to them to stop. Or what happens when you stop or am. I got called the whole. Granting like man how you doing. I'm like it was funny to me. Because i was like. Oh i'm probably the most balanced. I've ever been in my whole life because i haven't been going one way and then the next i have to go another place where i'm like i have a routine. I'm in incredible shape now I changed my diet for the for the better authority to routine. I meditate like the way. I handle stress. Like it's just. It even dialed in such a way that i was like. Oh oh maybe in i. I've said this the trains and they don't truly a couple of them do they get it Warm i'm musician. Friends got it real good. He's doing quite well and he. And i have the similar thing where it's like. The game is state nap. And what. I don't think people realize. I think some people do but as a whole you don't have to play that game mean if you've got an act in you've got a product you don't need to go to the to the big people that i call them. They're just pants. They were pam srecko while this. That's what they are. You don't nee- anymore because of the internet you can go reach these people and you can call these clubs because guess what. Guess what you know. This clubs will say they're loyal to whoever whatever but if you bring people they don't care that they were mad at you for you know. Ten years ago. I've noticed that too. Oh remember when you wouldn't work me. Mitch hedberg company. That longtime ago Fortune to work with him before he passed in. We re party in on at this club. And i have no idea for the monday tuesday because they fired me ten years ago and now i come back and sell out and make the owner. Go get me honey. And stuff. And i was like Oh so he's like so. Don't worry once they try to fuck you over. He's like just move onto the next one and he's like in when you become draw and stuff. Guess what these these. They'll be real nice to you and he's like their pimps. Billy wayne and i was like oh and shortly after i read a lot of iceberg. Slim's after that where i was like. Oh this one that help. What a perfect time for me to give you a plug to your paycheck paid patriotic dot com slash. Podcast wayne davis her appreciate that now. You doing a podcast. It interview style. Or is it more like bill burr style. Where you just do a monologue in rambling about you know comedy it is. It is both i I've interviewed indian some of my friends around launches injuries browse a just people. I like to hang out with in interesting my prince deeply into kids musician And then i have. He also have a the cannabis podcast. Grown local was reentered normal It's really cool we interview my co host is a is an organic. Not professional cannabis grow eugene oregon and and then so we go to wait. We got a different seasons ago. Two different communities and meet the growers in people that make up those communities as. We're trying to put a face on this on this quote unquote drug right. Because once people see that their farmers that are growing and not cartel members or gangsters. They'll go and understand if it's a point and it's already highlights if this neat thing. The pocket davis is just. I found out that i don't have. I have a lot of fans that. Don't give a shit about cannabis drugs in the me. I was really. But i think comedy not how many and we'd like peanut butter and jelly. Right i mean i. I would think for the performer. I think the crowd digs. I mean there's a lot of donors but booze helped at a live show. I've done enough cannabis only shows and it. It's fine but it's not good for our ego because we need that noise coming at in the joke i ought to do really well in stoned room is if you can get everybody at wants to go like this the manger killer. I mean you're just destroy your favorite. That's absolutely right so good. Good that's it. That's what you're gonna get from the stuff. Now we're talking about cannabis. We talked about mushrooms. I heard you tell. Marc maron lights probably eight years ago. Now that you were sober. Did you mean off alcohol. Yes he loves that he always reminds me. He's like these still gets stung grid. Young man. I thought i said sober Because he's i understood. When i quit booze it was 'cause booze levin did for me i never had a real problem with anything else. The booze was starting to create some problems. I'm aware of some of the stuff that made it into a shows about about how gotcha trouble. But i think because when you mentioned People you like to hang out with an you mentioned and the andrews. I think and and i'm thinking of this sober stuff i'm thinking in. Aa they tell you people places and things and now people They hang out was i know. They're not good influences. And i know the places. You go are comedy clubs. And that's not a good so the things you do are gonna be Basically not conducive to staying sober. It must take a little Strength on your part sometimes to be you know hanging out with guys who indulge everything that i mean. I was one of those guys for a while. But i think booze quit. When i was i lived in new york city. It's like six seven months with my now wife Before we moved to la. And that's where. I quit was newer city which throws a lot of people loss. When you quit drinking in new york and i was like. There's a ton of stuff to do other drink. I mean it is fun to drink in york. Do not get me wrong best. Buy one of my favorite places to booze because you could. You know it's just set up for it but it I didn't initially. I think what helped me was. I didn't initially say okay. I'm done for. What i did was like i'm on a i was like i'm gonna give myself thirty days in see how i feel and how much more stuff i can get done. Or what have you know what. I was just like kind of plateaued career wise in this in this way that i wasn't happy with An the clarity like okay. My life improves so exponentially in those thirty day. That i couldn't as logically thinking person be like. Well wait get waiting. We even have some drinks. Now it's like well. This is obviously getting in the way of locked in i. I made myself. Just go. Do the things i normally did. That guy will go to bars and go do stand up and hanging out like i did in realize like oh one of the first things i realize about booze is after like eleven thirty nothing. It's just a repeat everyone just pouring more poison in there just repeating this thing And then i realized there's a certain volume you know bar when when it like it's around eleven thirty twelve o'clock you'll hear it go from like this social place to something right and that's when the poison to in that's when it's my turn that's when it's my time to go presume not we're not talking or anymore you guys are not you like the the drunks are in this perpetual circle till it's two in the morning i knew it. I knew what they're doing. I know i don't drink hardly ever and saw. But i understand i know that noise level you talking about and i hear it all the time But there were days. When i used to drink very heavily but i yeah me too i was mostly i was mostly that volume yeah So you mentioned. la. Now you're in la are you the last night i mentioned last comic standing last comic standing in la. Now i think everybody austin and what is. I'm in austin right now. what. I'm yeah i'm not doing fan of i'm hosting a doing the man on the street stuff for a willie nelson livestream for cannabis later Oh yeah. I don't know if i'm willing. Ap's around the work with people. Were doing some stuff tomorrow. Mentally people on the street about this I i. I was made as were real. I would trade my paycheck if i were you for a chance to get high with. Willie found one time when we did. I did another thing for this special. They do Just livestream stuff posting. And i've got to make him laugh on. It was a genuine laugh in it. Was i told my wife i was like i don't gotta watch me burgers can't tell me. She heard the next to wait. Like i'm just. I made willie laugh. I'm i think i'm the president right. Now that's how i feel. Yeah i can relate to that. Because when i made tommy chong left i had that high going up for a couple of days so i. It's almost the same same day. Yeah i talked in the beginning about accents. And i know i know just from hearing your work over the last eight years ten years or so Accent is in the back of your mind and Somehow kind of you're very conscious of it whether self concept but self aware and so And i know you've been heckled By people even called a racist by somebody who just ask it at one time. How much does that really affect your comedy. And do you think in regions in new york. I gotta play this material. This is Texas on the south after this material is west coast. I can do this material. Does it play into what you do. It different plays in the way. I people up because i'm not who they want me to be So i'm very aware of that Of love played with perception and things like that In like flipping it. And but as far as like i learned when i lived in seattle i moved to seattle. I met this lady of course and then She was like. Hey do i move to seattle a month. You wanna go yeah So that really. I noticed performed in the south of until then if i because they would trust me but then i will go in and try to mess with these different topics in a way that i wanted to. I wasn't getting real feedback. They would shut me down. They would even hear certain words or something. So when i moved to seattle the west coast was awesome. Because i didn't have to change. I could talk about these topics in a way. That was free. And i could make mistakes in the in in kinda hone in what i was doing. But what. I learned A tortoise ralphie may for a while just a delightful lunatic god recipes so You know is good as he was bad. Let's just say that if we've all had that like he said yeah that we know we know how he is so but he was a great comedian in gray. Stand up which doesn't translate into the person a of times You understand. I know i know exactly what exactly But he taught me how to work in. It was the job every day and playing his crowds. Who were a lot dumber. I wanted my crowd. Today has a whole and then in a sorry if you're a rally fan and you heard that that you you know the rooms you were in the people you re and it's fine but i learned how to get my thing across to them and then i learned to play all these different rooms with him and then i will go back to seattle and i would play all these different rooms in the north west From like an all room or then not go play casino. Play like a redneck bar or something. I i was doing it all because i wanted to learn everything of the. You can't not make me better in what i figured out was the didn't have to change. Matere which is what most people think they have to do. What you have to do is just you have to read the room or the town or the region or whatever part of the country. You're in in figure out how they communicate like you know what i mean like like how people in the bronx communicate is different than how people on the upside communicate wholly different so that helped me going into new york to the play all kinds of different rooms that a lot of comics couldn't we'll be like. Oh well this is. We're on the upper east side. You don't have to yell here. Do not mean like they're gonna listen to you or you know we're in brooklyn in bushwick. Yeah we have to fight people. So that's just kinda you know. This is not this is back before especially when bushwick was cool not one. It's hip to hip now. I'm just like the hipsters have taken over bushwick and when it was just like a bunch of cool black big. I like now. It's a really fucking white people in bushwick suck. But i learned it's it wasn't my accent. Much is the way you communicate and you communicate to people. They will listen in the here. You out if you're genuine if you're an asshole to them they don't care right. I think most people when they hear southern accent from a comedian. They're expecting get it done. And i know larry but That's what they expect there he hauled the and so when and no smoke. I'm not blowing smoke up your ass when people talk about you people. I know who described you. They they Describe your very intelligent and re-rule and and a guy who who gives you a lot to think about. So i think you kind of out there changing that perception one one comic at a time. Kind of Changing the perception of the southern comic. I hope i hope it kind of it's a. It's a form of prejudice right. it definitely is so But you know what it. It's one that been are earned. Were guys play it up to purposely stupid dumb down. I guess we could say that. Some i never understood there was that i just don't there's pandering in in the a lot of southern comics and a modern country music That the whole. I think the south by ac in a way. It's just like that y'all that kind of like no one talks like that. Anything do their characters. They're like weird. They're like the the heel character and they're funny but people acting like that it or just they. I worked on the sasha baron cohen thing We're doing a couple of. But when i was working with this. He's doing a southern character and there was a couple of other people in the room that had southern pam louis and we were talking about and then they came in. Now my cousin used to say. Hey here and blah blah blah blah. And i was just like a i was. I could feel my blood getting hot. But i was like in this work environment with auction stuff and i was just like okay and i heard them out and stuff and then they left and i just looked like don't do that don't like they're like real southern people will know if you start talking like that the your cartoon character as most people. Don't talk like that. I was like he was like. I didn't realize it he. He did his Thesis on the american style in college. So he he had the he and i had a lot of fun conversations because he understood the south in a way that i did too in the so that was fun to coach him and then he worked this dialect coach that that i was incredibly impressed with because because they people get our accents. Wrong they overdo. Then there's these little things a one it. I was always impressed with brad pitt. In inglorious bastards against because he's from east that characters eastern say anna from real close place in the what he like nailed this. I got chills thinking about he nailed like when i watched it. I was like holy shit. He's he's pretty boys. Good the dialect cup sauce. It used i found out was like the saying dude It was just one of those things where i was like 'cause when he was coaching him in there one day and i was like holy shit. That's that's awesome. most people. Don't get that right and it's also laughing. He's like hey. Hey the authentic ones giving you compliments over here later. He told me he worked with. I was like oh yeah. 'cause brad pitt knocked that because tarantino's from he was right the same guy i that quit the comedy that i used to live with this from the same little town. That tarantino was right then. I know that i talked to Clinton was l. a. guy his whole life. I'm surprised until fifth grade. He lived in clinton tennessee which is right next to crazy. Which is this thirty minutes from. Where i grew up I've played there. I played there with a band called mount magic band Eighties in the eighties. Yeah A guy with my accent playing bass in a country band. I stuck out like a sore thumb and at first night there. I met somebody who wanted to kill me. Start the civil war over again you would start bringing up the civil war to me right away. Drunk and like maybe. Maybe this isn't for me. Maybe i should go back and You may you mentioned not changing material. Now when i heard that you were on conan. I said no fucking way. He can't play coenen. It's the guy who talks about Salvation in your butthole. What can he possibly do on network television and so. How difficult is that to kind of think about network television appearance after tailoring your your material to clean it up for air. I that one that said actually was of literally five minutes from that live at third man. An i didn't design it for conan but when i was when we did the record and i was i was like i knew i never did. I've never that's the only why not spot. I never liked by. He's never had a huge Desire to do any of them. I wanna i kinda wanted to do letterman. But i'll tell you that story off off the air You know i'll just be honest. I didn't like the booker I gotcha yeah you have to kind of go through producers and tell them exactly word for word what you're gonna say and all that kind of stuff and it's like this isn't fun this isn't fun business or you know comedy business now. All of a sudden. We're in like a fake hollywood land or whatever it is. It's not fun. Yeah yeah and. I was a little irritated with that guy because i was like i gary i just knew i guarantee you. If you put me on letterman show that do will like me. I do what he likes. It irreverent in. It's not what you think it is in. Its calm but the guy was like it was a pure power trip into doing some other stuff so it was. I wasn't been mad. It was just like one of those career things like okay. It's not worth it to do that. But in the conan thing happened. And i was like i'd like to do conan. I like him a lot i like. He's really good to comedy. Do you know what i mean. He's not he's always respected and it's he's never. He never sold out for lack of better term his his brand. He hasn't gotten old yet. I think well. I think i think of him. As your generation's letterman led him in in yet from nineteen eighty to nineteen. Ninety was the real. Dave and then in the nineties started to become all man in. Johnny carson are cut out and you know very not so cutting as not funny anymore. I think conan's still is young enough to be in touch with that energy that he had when he was young he might start to get old soon but yeah i think well. He's changing the format of the show. And i think that's because he's like he's a smart dude in realize this formats not gonna work for me anymore. Because i'm like you said elegant. Forty like i get it the what i talk about this j. I don't talk about my dick or you know that. Kinda stuff anymore. Because it's just like. I don't care them on. You know what i mean like. There's more serving. Mike bonny but with the date. J. payback the producer. That does the stand up is like. He's a dream to work with. Because like i went to him with this five minutes then i was like i think this is the set and he went. Yeah i mean i. There's another one member lopez tonight. Remember that jeff. I had gotten past to do that. Show which was a back and forth. That guy was really cool. He's not in. i don't think he does. The the producer does late night anymore but he was really cool to work with. But then mrs is you'll get This is a lesson. I learned on lopez to that was. I told five people that i had gotten past in I was gonna take the show. We didn't have the exact date yet but it was gonna be like in two or three weeks kind of thing on which day wake a five eight. I was exuberance excited as my first one and And then literally a week later four or five days eating. I got up to five messages from those people. All mayonnaise already here and i was like what act but they someone die. I went on. I was like well. That's a lesson learned. You don't tell anyone until after its happens. Yeah i've made that mistake so many times that i had not learned that lesson I've told them what about a job. I got yesterday and i was like well now. And i've announced guest on here that were assure thing and then they weren't a sure thing and it's like hey what happened. I thought you were going to get dave chapelle on getting Opening up for music in. You've done that when i had steve brennan here. He told me that was hell. What what is that experience. Because he opened up to like tanya at red rocks and stuff like that. I think my opinion on that and sam talent had a good take on that in Sometimes it's better not to be an opening act like an in between acts you know in between bands while people know that is going to be a lawyer and then a comedian combat and they'll actually listen but if you're opening for somebody usage j- people aren't really listening to you and they have to listen to get the joke. So what is the experience for you. I mean when i worked at sturge uil that was different because what he and i do is so similar as far as storyteller in who people think we are as opposed to who we actually are. And what when who were revealing. Because he has a certain found that people were relate to and then the listen to his words but oh this month booker didn't think like i'd say So he and i think he recognizes that when he saw me perform and then we we realize real quick that we would be friends. Even if we didn't do this thing we do that we would. We had mutual friends from our paths. Which is a funny thing. Like people we love. And he's like oh yeah like his brother when my friends will not really good friends in college is startled Sturgess really good friends brother so it was just like this weird thing. We're like oh we kinda. Of course we but what. I realized the pam If they were seated if we were in like a theater was seated i would. I don't. I didn't have any problem right. It's when standing around like mingling china. Pick up checks. Yeah i get it. And i could. There's only one or two shows where the contracts that had did you. Twenty minutes could do thirty There's only one or two That there was only one show. I look down at twenty minutes and it was all eggs. Eddie in this in this venue i should never have been. You know what they shouldn't be doing shows in that they knew This big old warehouse. They had turned into three different venues but it was just huge rooms. And i've told the sound of before the show started when they were doing down because this can suck for me and he was like we may not like the all these i was like see. How hot is they. Lineas business nightmare for me. And they had the drinkers. They had a big like a fence in the mill in the drinkers. Were over here in this bar that we were over here and then all the sober people were rotten from the stage. And i was like this is like one dude who was in the sober part but he had been in the drink at park and he was just a mountain of a man and he had something to say about everything i said and he stood out because i just went after him and of course the name like that loves it. You know the demeanor. I got the more that he loved it in the more the crowd loved it. I'm losing my mind at that point because it's not what i wanted to do Had i looked down at and right at twenty minutes. And i said as i saw a lake city most of you are cool but twelve of you need to kill yourselves good night oh it was like i didn't mean every mostly all really love. There's a twelve year really. Hope he and i turned it was like it was about like towards the end of the tour so mostly just the drummer would come. Watch me every night. But as i they like the rhythm of what we do and I turned into the whole band. Like the tour. Everyone spanning all studies like just beaming. 'cause they loved every because the musicians love it. When you 'cause y'all don't get to tell people to fuck themselves like that. I do around of these guys. Don't because they're you know they've got a bunch of money and they take it off to the and i was so they. It was like a thing for me. I still bring it up there. I i i like. Does that salt lake seized is the best show you did. I was like that's the worst show of the tour in just like 'cause i lost my mind. It was awesome but that was only on the rest of them. I just kind of. I've learned if you could get them up front and you're not and i would just stay stoic. Kind of and it would slow by the end. You would have everybody It seems like a good crowd. But i know a little bit about you. Know your political leanings. I should say right and The other day. I swore in billy bob's in texas I think from aaron lewis and he was going on at one of the songs is If i were a liberal and he's dot com a bauer liberal. I be fucking pussy and i and basically. And when he's done with the song you got he says Some like i might have offended some people if i did fuck you. You should just get out of the country and going over. And so one i know. Texas is something you talked about in in your Have you ever come across that kind of crowd that it's just In that area especially just completely red and not appreciative of you or anything you have to say about Social stuff yeah. I mean here's the thing. The way i can because i was raised around red you know i played football and i played sports. My dad's a football coach. My grandpa was a cattle former. I i know how to do all that stuff like all that read stuff like all that rednecks farm stuff and i can find a little bit because you kind of have to know. It's and i'm athletic so with the rednecks. There was always this thing where they would say kind of know instinctively every now and then one of them will push me and i'll push them back. Am but they instinctively know who i am and so they know like this isn't someone we can push around 'cause he'll push us back and if i believe some i'll i'll take an ass whooping this i believe in something So that's like that gives me just a little bit of the najan. Those rooms and i know who can kick my ass and who can't run light important. That's an important piece of information. Perfect yeah it is definitely Crucial information to know who can kick your ass him. yes but speaking of all that kind of You know political stuff. The one line in in coney thing i have to ask you about because at the end of it you talking about ben chocolates and i'm cracking and Came up and i don't want to ruin it for people if you're gonna go see the clip but you say oh he races at the dummy racist. Is that a Shout to to otto and george. Oh no i love auto and george. 'cause he was very open about. I'd cracking them. Appropriately crack it. You know what you meant. There is no doubting who that man. That's a shout out done Oh okay oh okay. All right thing is like He's not racist. The puppet is a puppet. Don't those booking jokes right. Yeah i guess right. But i i the reason i thought of ottawa's because nineteen ninety s. Something a friend of mine had a club in ottawa's jordan over there i don't enjoy And the puppet was there were a couple black guys up front and the puppet was just br. I mean to the point where everybody was embarrassed and they accept the two black guys up front. They will engineer but It was like hard to listen to and And i think i made that line. He's not raised really racist. It's a puppet that's racist but you're right. The puppet didn't write those jokes. But yeah no i like like the act out on george too but it just. That's who i know who you're going to see it. It it will. That was a really small bar and like that. That was risky in my. Because you're going into the small room the more likely to get your ass kicked him. Yes yes so politics. Sometimes i don't mention about this just having fun but everything you do is going to touch on even when you talk about anything religious or i could find a political angle in every piece of material if i if i'm looking for it right. Yeah yeah i know. there's my mom. My mom's an english teacher in he pounded in my head early in my career. You know i would be like. I'm getting really good at this ball and to what are you saying like you know when you're riding when you're doing anything there's twenty doing with so that is just pounded in my head. Swear couldn't just can't do fluff. The i guess i can ride it for other people but it doesn't interest me at all because there's just it's it's not who i am. I take them right. I we are over an hour. And i want to be respectful of your time. But i can't let you go without at least asking you about a couple of things because i think we have something in common besides the shag rug and oprah's In nineteen ninety s. I was wondering. I people on napster law matters that time already but on nassar and the first thing i found on napster was mitch. Hedberg and Was addicted to it. And and like you or at least i think like you Thought that it was my personal private jam. And i would kind of hold onto it like this stuff. And then when he became famous. It was like i didn't want people to know i would just nassar's where found him too. I was working at western kentucky at the University in i was in the computer department. That was one of my jobs now. Wasn't program or anything. I was good at plugging stuff. In like i knew the shapes So but all these computer nerds taught me how to use napster and all this stuff and i was the heavy lift her in the department and i found that head verse where that's where i found hedberg and just like he was he was my special thing for so long and then he got when he started blowing up there. I was so conflicted. I was like no. He's my thing. But then i got to work with him. And all that like that was just like a lazarus going to say. I never got to meet him for you. That must have been really. I mean that's to me like I don't know what elvis asking me to go on tour with him What we started struck. I don't get started up who i really. Enam was enamored with their work for for a while like that. I think would really blow me away. Did you get that iram on the. It's i don't know if i was started. I don't comics never star. I don't start by comics much. Because i guess we do. I do the similar thing. Especially when i started doing it. But i do remember him walking in the back door for the first time when i was sitting in the green room and i remember that clear as day He was also waste near the at that point in that. Kind of that was like a One those oh no but you know he was a little drugs those this thing. I'm not saying anything out of light here and that was it was the lessons. I learned there. That were important yet. The midst thing with the drugs is really really hard to understand. Because i think once you almost lost your leg and he will good after. He almost lost his leg Fda almost lost you leg. I would think that would kind of say okay. Maybe it's time to give up this one drug. That is probably gonna end up killing me. It's already take limbs from a maybe it's it's telling me Find something a bit tamer like marijuana some fly he was using all of them But i think in this is just my opinion from the couple days on with him and you know he's a pretty open person cause us a lot of drugs use kentucky by field. I am we were. We were both loose that not in. He taught it. He said the only part of this business. I like is being on that day. He's like the rest of it. I i think it like physically and emotionally tore him apart So i think that that was another huge thing you know year and a half into doing stand up to see your hero talk about this life that you think is amazing or is going to be amazing. They in in not a good life. It was very clear like certain things that i was seeing Yeah it was it was. I mean it was a dream come true to perform him and he knew my name and we hung out and he asks to hang up the second night. But then there's also the all these these He showed me. He gave me these gifts that. I didn't think we're gifts at the time that they were things that made me sad about this guy. I really loved but then he was giving me gifts. I think he knew some of them. I think some me did. And i got to do the same thing. One night with greg. Giraldo who i same story it yeah. His was different but same story it was. The greg was smarter than everybody. And i think that that made him exhausted. I think he. I think he dumped himself down. A lot i. He's one of the best comedians of all. He's my favorite means all time. I'm like i think i'll probably pattern a lot of the way i go about stuff. Did you ever hear already lang. Tell about the the Greg giraldo thing William shatner's roast one. But yeah i'm he may have told me because he told me crazy stories. When i was they were flying out of william shatner's roast in trial came up to argue. That i can't go man. I'm i'm what he's strung out and already gave him some jugs to calming down. Sat next to him on. The plane switched seats so we could sit next on to hold his hand. While you're sake in go into withdrawal. Stop trying to clean them up. You gotta go. You're gonna ruin your career this way of chat rose. You can't not show up. So they got their early farah fawcett in drought going. I gotta go talk to her already. Lying saying no you. Can you gonna have you arrested. And all that stuff so finally get up there and giraldo goes up. He's one of the first one up a got him all cleaned up and ready to go and the first person he turned so he goes audie lang. You fat fucking drug addict. Like i just saved you fucking light career and you start by call me and fat fucking drug addict him. Though doumen like part of the business. Buddy i had to do it. Yeah so tragic losses. And i don't want to end on a sad note so get sad. I think they live their life at saddle. I'm not one of those Like when you're life's done like i've never been like all. They could have done so much more. Well that's it. That was that's their book. It was a bright star that burnt out from the heat and extreme light of their their life. Yeah i guess. I share that opinion a lot but So for i know for lynn who was on constantly a posting. Hedberg stuff twitter i. My heart breaks every time. I see post Hedberg thing is like that's gotta hurt. It's got she's weighty. I love her. So much A retail to her every now and then Yeah that is its main. Kiana raves on kobe. I don't know if you've ever seen this clip It's he's promoting the second bill and ted in there being goofy him and kobe bourbon. Goofy in he kiana says something about dying or something like that and then very goofy. You know colbert goes. Where do we go. What happens when we dock yano. Just kinda sealy. Depression in canada just takes a second get. Will i know the only thing we know. Is that when we die. The people that love us will miss us. And it's just the most beautiful i mean. I think he's a buddhist. Which is a very buddhist thing. That's kind of where i lean disley at this point in my life is a buddhist. Thank it is like when i. I've seen the clip made me tear up the first time i saw it because it catches cabrera like he gets to commercial where he just goes. Wow that was. That's i love that. I was somebody would do that to me. Sometimes i love that feeling of holy crap Piff unie moment at of oslo sentence like that. The one thing we all know for sure about it i was just like all that is so i just that kiono right. That was style kill. Stop saying thanks for having. Yeah thank thank. You and i appreciate you you being here. And so the patriots dot com. Podcast wayne david. Now where is the other the cannabis. podcast what. What is the url to that can find that somewhere as what's it called grown local growing local. I'll get to. It's on all we've got it on every of podcasts. It's not like park as dave is where make you pay for it But it's there's no ads in the park s one day. Sometimes i do the bill burr thing and talk about me and then sometimes i talked to this my son trans good good for you and i wish you great success and i thank you for coming and spending time with me. I really appreciate getting great. Yeah yeah great. We should do it again. A couple months. Oh no ya door is always open to you my friend. Thank thank you so much and have a great night in the billy wayne day was folks Funny stuff there. Inciteful stuff could guy Hope you enjoyed this. Pro-am hope you've got a lot of adamant. I'm sure he did And if you're a young Comedian just getting started into business. What what a guy to learn from in and take some lesson from because he's He's had a very successful life without took the massive television exposure Late nights stuff. That a lot of people have had so It's good to get to know and understand the business from hope during this program helping combat. Don't have a show tomorrow. Because i'm performing if you're in garden city new york tomorrow. Al be achieves place with iraq and forty fives. It's an early show. Seven thirty to ten thirty believe is time at the check on the website of the rack and forty five dot com check out paints special. Thanks andy anderson breakdowns and towards setting this up tonight Another quick shout out to Issues with andy. Patriots dot com plus issues with handy. Check them out. And that's the program this evening so thanks for coming and for now. Maybe now around bought lean alley. Melissa took listen to.

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