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CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"Almost the entirety of Shrewsbury's life with the exception of running Penn State for the past few years, serving under Stevens in Boston with Stephen, what's the head coach there? Almost almost everything else was living in playing in coaching in the state of Indiana. And so now he goes up to South Bend, it wasn't the noisiest splashiest hire. It was a well respected hire. But there were some bigger names in this. It just wouldn't surprise me if that wound up working out really, really, really well. It's one of three ACC hires just as a conference reset here from the high majors. ACC hit three, Autry, stoudemire, who GP knows, and then Shrewsbury, biggie said Cooley, Pitino, English. Big 12 at two, mccaslin, Rodney Terry got bumped up after his elite 8 push. And then the SEC Big Ten impact 12 each had one a piece with beards, roads who scooted up from VCU to Penn State, and then Rhodes has never been a bad head coach, by the way, so Penn State. You're affording coach more money and opportunity and resources than ever. So we'll see if Rhodes can make it work. He's got he's got a nice head start. And then the fact that Mark Madsen got to Cal. I find to be riveting. Now, real quick on this GP? Stanford decided to keep Jared Haas. Okay. But by all means, again, do what you need to do, but he's never made the tournament, Stanford is an irrelevant power conference program right now. And you can not tell me that Stanford would not have put the premium on hiring mattson this year. Like he did a really, really good job with Utah valley, but that doesn't happen. Bernard Muir the AD decides to keep Haas for one more year. They got Harrison Ingram, former former 5 star prospect. He's now transferring out. And man, oh man, who knows which way these directions go GP, but like this could really be an inflection point for Stanford and Cal. Cal is a worse job. There's no doubt about it. It's one of the worst power conference cakes out there. But Madsen takes it and I was told that Mike Montgomery who coached mattson at Stanford and then obviously went on to later coach a Cal, was a part of this as well and definitely had an influential say in all the matter. So we've got we've got coaches going into enemy territory, so to speak in this cycle, which we don't often have. Sometimes we don't often have it. And I find that to be pretty intriguing, but that's your power conference wrap up of things. What's of CBS sports podcast listeners, this is Katie mox, host of the pick 6 podcast, part of the CBS sports podcast network. Every
CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on CBS Sports Eye On College Basketball Podcast
"He returned to the court on crutches as of this moment that we are taping this, which is Monday afternoon. There has been no announcement or report about his status, but obviously when you see somebody on crutches that is, I don't want to say never a good sign, but it is rarely a good sign and certainly that could play a role. Not only on what UCLA does in this tournament, but in the NCAA tournament. I should have put and I'm glad you brought organ up, Oregon, in the group of teams that still have at least in theory a path to an at large bid from the PAC 12 tournament. Like we said, UCLA Arizona definitely in USC right side of the bubble right now. Arizona state wrong side of the bubble right now. Oregon, even more on the wrong side of the bubble right now. But if Oregon went to the PAC 12 championship game and then lost a competitive game that qualified as a quadrant one defeat, maybe maybe the ducks could have an at large resume there. Either way, I'm not going to take them to maybe be the team that could win this event if Arizona or UCLA does it. I'm going to go with Washington state. Why should states on a 6 game winning streak? And as you know, over at Bart torvik dot com, you can sort data from any, it's amazing. From any two dates you pick and sometimes I'll just because you're always looking for little things you can say on TV and 45 second clips about teams or conferences or whatever. So I often will just go back a month and sort it from that date to the present. And it'll spit out things and you can say stuff like, you know, over the past month, nobody's been playing better basketball than you caught. And then you go into that, right? If you go and sort that data from say February 6th through March 6th, the third best team in the pack 12 is Washington state. There are 6 and zero in that stretch. Top 40 in the country, obviously behind UCLA and Arizona. So to be clear, I don't think anybody other than UCLA or Arizona is winning. The PAC 12 tournament. But if I had to pick one team that could do it outside of the top two, I might look at Cal smith's team. At Washington state. All right, another interesting aspect of this PAC 12 tournament is that it could be the last pack tournament for a number of coaches. If you look at the big tin right now, they really might not make a coaching change. Like every coach in the Big Ten might return. Without any sort of terminations or leave for another job or any of that stuff. That is 100% not going to be the case in the PAC 12. So let's run through it real quick. And will this person be coaching in his last PAC 12 tournament this week? We'll start with, and you can answer yes or no. Mark Fox at Cal. Yes. You should take all the t-shirts, all the lanyards, and anything that will remind him of the better days, however many there were as Cal's men's head basketball coach. This is the last one from Mark Fox. Yeah, that's a definite. I love Mark Fox, but about to miss the NCAA tournament for the fourth consecutive year, tenth or worse in the league, each of the past three years. They're like really, really bad this season. So yes, a coaching change at cow is coming. Stanford coach Jared Haas, coaching his last pec 12 tournament or not. Coaching his last pack 12 tournament pretty disappointing season for Stanford. And if you are evaluating your head coach and your program based on what direction is this going, are you building this? Year two of Harrison Ingram, 5 star prospects, pretty decent talent level around him. You start the season as a top 60 team in the predictive metrics and GP, did you know that Stanford got a first place vote in the PAC 12 preseason media poll? Oh no. Who did that? Who did such a thing? They were 5th overall. From 5th to where they are currently in the standings, like falls in line with this was a disappointing season, but at least one 26 media members believed UCLA were going to win the title. One brave medium member had Stanford as the first place team. Probably looking at Harrison Ingram, former 5 star prospects coming back for a second year, a team around him, that's pretty talented. Man, I think that this is it because this has been this was supposed to be the year that you see a step and instead it's gotten worse from the preseason expectations. Yeah, when you enter the season on the so called hot seat and then you have this type of season. That's almost always it. Zero NCAA tournaments in 7 years for Jared Haas. And like, I get if you're younger, you might go, well, Stanford, what are you supposed to do there? Mike Montgomery used to go to the instantly tournament basically every year at Stanford. Like they have wanted an extremely high level at that place in my lifetime. And so it's just because it's been down for a while, doesn't mean that it can't be way better than this. And I'll be shocked if they don't try to find a new coach to try to get them back to that place just as soon as this season's over. Can I ask one quick question on that? Of course. Is Stanford on the men's basketball side getting crushed because of their difficult transfer restrictions and the transfer portal era, because on the football side, that is what we go back to the transfer portal and we say this is a date that you have to set new expectations for Stanford football and people say, what happened to David Shaw, it's fallen off a cliff there and it's that the rules around them have changed the early signing period and the transfer portal both are just like absolute hell for these coaches trying to get kids simply into school through the admissions process. It's a problem not only for Stanford, but I don't want to say all schools like Stanford, but most schools like Stanford. What I've been told is that a place like
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"And I'm interested to see how many of those looks he gets when you do have pretty dick and Jalen Wilson. And for jaylen, I'm glad he's back. He had sort of this redemption tour later in the season. He performed well enough at the combine, some teams late second undrafted free agent type range. Now you can run it back, be more of a focal point to show the more expansionary game too. Yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan of this Kansas roster for next season. I think that with dewan Harris as well, really underrated lead guard. This is going to be the best defensive backcourt in the country next year with the WAN Harris and Kevin mcculler. I think that they should try to find maybe one more big, like there's a lot of reliance there on earnest due to. Maybe they think Zach Clemens is going to be able to step into a role. I kind of sneaky liked Clements. I like them too. In the moments that we saw him this year before the injury. So I don't know. I'll be interested on him. I think that this team has a real chance to win a national title again next year. And for how much they lost, given that, you know, Remy Martin is not going to be there. Jalen Coleman lands isn't going to be there. Oh chai isn't going to be there. We can go up and down the list of guys that they're going to lose. Christian Brown obviously another important one. Bill self has done an incredible job of reloading here. All right, so I assume Mitchell lightfoot will be there because he's just contractually obligated to play for cancer for the rest of his life and what a way to go out. You're a college for 8 years and what a national championship on the way out the door. It's perfect. So happy for him too. Okay. Next up, let's go Harrison Ingram. Maybe. Let's do it. Let me think of Harrison Ingram's decision. Loved it. I love that he left..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"And with Edwards, it was literally just like, this dude literally saying publicly, like he doesn't like basketball. What are we talking about? I have to read too much into it. Exactly what he said. Yeah, just look at what we are using like nameless faceless sources that say these guys like basketball. Come on guys. Okay. I will say to people that ask these questions, I understand why they're asked and maybe at some point we'll do a mailbag specific to these kinds of questions. The ones that I'm less inclined to answer are team specific questions. Like, what should Oklahoma City do if they get the number one overall pick? What are the next going to do if they get or if they move up, right? Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, like those are the ones that I'm just a little bit less interested in at this point of the year. Once we have a draft order, I'm a little bit more inclined to answer those things, but at this point I'm just not sure like what to do. I've gotten this question though quite a bit throughout the course of the last little while. This one comes from Philly trivia trivia, the past. Who is the closest thing to a herb Jones type? In this NBA draft class, this person mentioned tari Eason as a potential. What are the parameters for herb Jones type? Just come sort of out of nowhere or like the fence and stay on the floor, makes it. I think it's more about, can you make an impact offensively immediately despite going after, let's say, 22 in the draft. Oh God, that's so hard in this draft class. Like scrolling, like looking for the name as I had my big board of Assad. Who was your actually name then? I don't really have one for what it's worth. I love herb Jones last year. I think you were the tweet or somebody had to tweet about just the difference and Alabama defensively a year removed from each other. And how much of an enormous impact that he had when he was on the floor. And now he's doing the NBA too. I don't know if there's really that perimeter defender anyway that will have that same type of thing. But that's not the same. That's not what herb Jones is doing. There's no wing vendor in his class that is going to go after 25. That is 6 foot 7 with the 7 foot one wingspan with terrific athleticism and like basketball genius on the defensive end. That guy doesn't really exist in this class. I don't think. Like Harrison Ingram isn't that good of an athlete and not as good defensively I mean like Jaime Hawkins would have been kind of an interesting choice to be honest. Tough physical, great defender, like works really hard on that end. I like having to get a little healthier, a little better shape too, than human discussion for next year. Yeah, I don't know that Chris Murray is going to be in this draft, like Chris Murray isn't that good defensively. 6 a reasonable length like Ian, you know, shoot a little bit. I think you should probably go in the 2023 drafts. I think you can go in the first round if he goes back next year. So I'm super potential there. Yeah. It's hard. I have a name that I really like, but I don't know that it's not herb Jones like..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Like you could have a point guard from a lower level that just wants to chuck it. Like he might not be able to show that sort of like high post face up, dribble handoff, passing read stuff. So some of these guys like, I don't even know if they're going to have the right framework to showcase what they want to to NBA personnel in order to get in the draft range that they seek to be in in order to say like, I'm leaving school I'm in. Yeah, it'll be interesting. I think you're a 100% right on Harrison Ingram. It feels like for him the decision is just like am I in or am I out? Because the thing that he could do, I guess, is go in and shoot the lights out in workouts, right? Like he goes in shoots the hell out of it. That would catch some people's eyes, I think. You know, athletically he's not going to perform super well. Three on three games, like I think he'd probably be pretty okay in those just 'cause he's big and long and can really pass it, right? But again, he probably need to shoot it in those games. So it kind of all comes back to that with him, unfortunately. The one that caught my eye was the one that shops around reported today, Ryan Rollins is in this draft, baby, or we're here. Running. Yeah. Like, that's a better prospect than Caleb love. Hot take. I don't know. Putting my chips down. Is it a hot take? I mean, you had them 30th prior to the tournament. Maybe part of the march. I can't remember. Both of the last 30 days and large baby. February 20th. The three point shooting. That's what I need. Everything else is there. It would be translatable, just hasn't necessarily done that. I like the mid range stuff. I do like the touch. I admire him for putting his name out there and saying, I'm doing this. This is where I'm at. I have them like 40 low 40s right now. Gets dicey in the second round. Is he a first round guaranteed guy in your eyes? Not a first round guarantee. Teams are hit or miss on him, that I've talked to. They worry about the shot. It is the thing that comes up. Also some explosiveness. Questions? I'm less worried about that because I think he's really strong and also has really good kind of change of pace that allows him to keep guys on his hip and to keep defenders at bay. Do I think he's like CJ McCollum esque? Not really, I don't think. Ask if you want to say the mid major E score. And that's the name. In the interview that he said he wanted to be that type of player. That's great person who aspire to be, but that's also lofty. Like seat of column is really good..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Yeah, no. He did not help himself late in the season. And it wasn't just that game. It was late in the season. It was the last 15 games that Baylor played. I don't know. If I was him, I would test, I would not just full on go. I trust Baylor's developmental staff a lot. I think they're very good. I don't know. I honestly don't know what to do if I was him. I would test, I think, though, and see where it goes. All right. Every test and just take the feedback appropriately and use it as such. Don't go crazy. I'm trying to think if I have any for you. I mean, Trevor keels, what do you do with them? I go back. I also go back. I agree. A debated debated to query on Smith, I would test, but go back. Harrison Ingram. Tough one. Really, really tough one. He was bad the last month or so of the year. He ended on a bad note test series at. He's a guy that I understand why NVA teams would like the way he passes and sees in his processing of the game, but he shot the ball, not great. The last stretch there, and he needs that based on the lack of foot speed. He does. Yeah. No, I agree. This is going to be a weird pre draft cycle. Like, it's hard. I'm trying to start the NBA draft guide. And I can't quite wrap my head around what the draft pool is going to look like yet. So where am I wasting my time? Where am I? Do you color code your board? I do so I have light blue for guys that may test. And the board just may as well be light blue after about the tenth pick. No, but I think that's a great idea and I might do it now. People helping people. Yeah. Okay. I want to talk about looking forward now. Yeah. What match up in the sweet 16 are you most excited for? From what perspective, I guess. Like Texas tech duke, I'm intrigued by because I think that'll be a chess match because Texas tech is so tough and they're another team that will punch you in the face. There's some good matchups. I really like Gonzaga Arkansas too. That's one that we always say Jalen Williams versus chip, but they play fast. They scout really well. I think it's probably Stan Lee a moody versus chat for what it's worth. They're going to have to put this. Timmy charges. This is really corny, but there's just a lot of games that I like. I like Arizona versus Houston. That really intrigues me. I like that. If I'm healthy, I love UCLA, North Carolina, just from like, here's these old school blue buds. Knocking skulls on national TV. Yeah. Houston, Arizona would be my pick because I want to see these Arizona kids against a better version of TCU, which just punched them in the face. And made them fight for it. If they get through that Houston game, I think they're in a really, really good spot. I think they're in a really, really good spot..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"The game does continue to get more mobile and less traditionally sized in the terms of centers, as we've just drafted about ten of them. Maybe he could be a guy that fits that Bill. Yep, agree. Okay, you're up at 25. All right, 25. I am going to take Harrison Ingram from this favorite. The guy considered with Liddell. Sounds good. Off the board. I'm a fan of his field at 6 foot 8, 230 pounds. He's coming off a couple of bad games just like everybody here against Colorado and Utah before that. He put together a nice little stretch of 14 or more points with 5 assists, hit multiple threes in each game. With his at least perceived lack of foot speed, the shot has to stay up in the mid 30s that has to be a threat on the catch if you're not gonna be able to blow by guys. One note here too, I'd say he's probably a little bit ahead of schedule than what I projected he'd be as a freshman. Our expectation level for most of these guys is sky high. And he should be a two year guy, but he's been better than I thought he would be. We don't have to rush through this process for every player for the way that he sees and thinks and feels and plays the game. I like him in the mid 20s. Yeah, I don't have anything else to say. I worry about the jumper. He's going to have some actual mechanical work to do on the jumper, I think. Because it's like all funky at the top and like he kind of twists his body and there's going to be some work to do there. But he has, I think he does have touch and I love his feel. Like you said, like the feel for the game, you're betting on a smart player here. And I'm comfortable with that, given that he's 6, 8, pretty damn close to a 7 foot wingspan, like something like that adventure. Okay. Speaking of wingspan, number 26 on my end. I'm staying in the PAC 12. This is going to be three of our last four picks. Have been out of the packs well..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"The game does continue to get more mobile and less traditionally sized in the terms of centers, as we've just drafted about ten of them. Maybe he could be a guy that fits that Bill. Yep, agree. Okay, you're up at 25. All right, 25. I am going to take Harrison Ingram from this favorite. The guy considered with Liddell. Sounds good. Off the board. I'm a fan of his field at 6 foot 8, 230 pounds. He's coming off a couple of bad games just like everybody here against Colorado and Utah before that. He put together a nice little stretch of 14 or more points with 5 assists, hit multiple threes in each game. With his at least perceived lack of foot speed, the shot has to stay up in the mid 30s that has to be a threat on the catch if you're not gonna be able to blow by guys. One note here too, I'd say he's probably a little bit ahead of schedule than what I projected he'd be as a freshman. Our expectation level for most of these guys is sky high. And he should be a two year guy, but he's been better than I thought he would be. We don't have to rush through this process for every player for the way that he sees and thinks and feels and plays the game. I like him in the mid 20s. Yeah, I don't have anything else to say. I worry about the jumper. He's going to have some actual mechanical work to do on the jumper, I think. Because it's like all funky at the top and like he kind of twists his body and there's going to be some work to do there. But he has, I think he does have touch and I love his feel. Like you said, like the feel for the game, you're betting on a smart player here. And I'm comfortable with that, given that he's 6, 8, pretty damn close to a 7 foot wingspan, like something like that adventure. Okay. Speaking of wingspan, number 26 on my end. I'm staying in the PAC 12. This is going to be three of our last four picks. Have been out of the packs well..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"The game does continue to get more mobile and less traditionally sized in the terms of centers, as we've just drafted about ten of them. Maybe he could be a guy that fits that Bill. Yep, agree. Okay, you're up at 25. All right, 25. I am going to take Harrison Ingram from this favorite. The guy considered with Liddell. Sounds good. Off the board. I'm a fan of his field at 6 foot 8, 230 pounds. He's coming off a couple of bad games just like everybody here against Colorado and Utah before that. He put together a nice little stretch of 14 or more points with 5 assists, hit multiple threes in each game. With his at least perceived lack of foot speed, the shot has to stay up in the mid 30s that has to be a threat on the catch if you're not gonna be able to blow by guys. One note here too, I'd say he's probably a little bit ahead of schedule than what I projected he'd be as a freshman. Our expectation level for most of these guys is sky high. And he should be a two year guy, but he's been better than I thought he would be. We don't have to rush through this process for every player for the way that he sees and thinks and feels and plays the game. I like him in the mid 20s. Yeah, I don't have anything else to say. I worry about the jumper. He's going to have some actual mechanical work to do on the jumper, I think. Because it's like all funky at the top and like he kind of twists his body and there's going to be some work to do there. But he has, I think he does have touch and I love his feel. Like you said, like the feel for the game, you're betting on a smart player here. And I'm comfortable with that, given that he's 6, 8, pretty damn close to a 7 foot wingspan, like something like that adventure. Okay. Speaking of wingspan, number 26 on my end. I'm staying in the PAC 12. This is going to be three of our last four picks. Have been out of the packs well..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"The game does continue to get more mobile and less traditionally sized in the terms of centers, as we've just drafted about ten of them. Maybe he could be a guy that fits that Bill. Yep, agree. Okay, you're up at 25. All right, 25. I am going to take Harrison Ingram from this favorite. The guy considered with Liddell. Sounds good. Off the board. I'm a fan of his field at 6 foot 8, 230 pounds. He's coming off a couple of bad games just like everybody here against Colorado and Utah before that. He put together a nice little stretch of 14 or more points with 5 assists, hit multiple threes in each game. With his at least perceived lack of foot speed, the shot has to stay up in the mid 30s that has to be a threat on the catch if you're not gonna be able to blow by guys. One note here too, I'd say he's probably a little bit ahead of schedule than what I projected he'd be as a freshman. Our expectation level for most of these guys is sky high. And he should be a two year guy, but he's been better than I thought he would be. We don't have to rush through this process for every player for the way that he sees and thinks and feels and plays the game. I like him in the mid 20s. Yeah, I don't have anything else to say. I worry about the jumper. He's going to have some actual mechanical work to do on the jumper, I think. Because it's like all funky at the top and like he kind of twists his body and there's going to be some work to do there. But he has, I think he does have touch and I love his feel. Like you said, like the feel for the game, you're betting on a smart player here. And I'm comfortable with that, given that he's 6, 8, pretty damn close to a 7 foot wingspan, like something like that adventure. Okay. Speaking of wingspan, number 26 on my end. I'm staying in the PAC 12. This is going to be three of our last four picks. Have been out of the packs well..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"It's a very tough question this class. I just saw him and didn't blow me away with Jordan hall is the first name I think of from saint Joe's. He doesn't have really that quickness that extra stuff, but he's smart and heady enough where he's got a million spins of face punch punches seals, whatever. He gets to where he needs to. He hasn't necessarily produced lately how I thought he would consistently throughout the year. But he's the first name as I scrolled my big board to find anybody there that pops, he could be a better pro two where he sticks and is part of a rotation, just the way he moves the ball sees the game. He can play off a ball screen. It's going to be better when he doesn't have to be the number one guy and part of the reason he struggled at saint Joe's some this year and they've struggled. I don't think he's the number one guy. He's a third or fourth on the court. And that's when he'll be really at the best of his ability. Yeah, three guys stood out to me one of them was Jordan hall. I'm really glad that you said Jordan hall. The second guy is Harrison Ingram. Like really well. Really, really smart player passes really well. He's gonna need the shot, but we could have said that about all three of these guys. I worry more about the touch with him than I did with Halliburton and lamelo. I do think like similar stuff there with giddy totally different role. Like he's not a point guard. He's more of like a point forward. Who makes quicker decisions. But I think Harrison Ingram's probably a pretty good guy here. Jordan hall is another one and then the third one was Dyson Daniels. Just really, really smart player, really intuitive processes the game exceptionally well. Not the craziest athlete in the world, doesn't have the crazy bag of skills, but really a high level defender really smart going to need the jumper though to come through at the end of the day. Okay. Question number two here. What's happening with Patrick Baldwin junior and the Milwaukee team? They seem to underperform in the horizon and his name barely gets mentioned at all any more is the fact that he went to a smaller school in error in retrospect. This comes from Benedict. Probably an error. He went to play for his dad. I don't think there's probably about it. Well, hold on, though. If you're going to go play for your dad, I totally understand it. Fastball wise. Yeah, it's an error. You should probably at duke as a third option and we're talking about him as a top ten guy..
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"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"And yeah, he had 16 points, he made four 7 from three, and 6 rebounds, three assists, like I think he's solidified himself a little bit more than this group in general. I would say that I would pretty comfortably take him in the 20s, maybe even in the late teens now, but again, you're still worried about lack of athleticism and shooting concerns. But I feel a little bit more confident about his shooting after what we've seen over the last month. I don't know. I don't know how to differentiate these 6 for ten, 6 or 9 games for the field versus the two for 7 to two for 9s, where he's both times and I'm worried about the pre shot mechanics, the speed of it. Yeah. When he comes off screens, and he goes to screen, it's a pin down. He comes up like that defender catches up with him pretty often and like blocks a shot, alters his shot. That shouldn't happen at his size and what you need to be in the NBA because those defenders only get faster longer. It's not going to be easier path than what it is right now. And if those shots aren't falling, what else is doing? Because he doesn't have necessarily the offensive creator connector chops that Franz Wagner has in that role. And it's a little bit difficult when you're playing with hunter dick and send your plan musso de about day. So you're more of a three than a stretch four. So that's what my concern is. It's gotten better. Yeah. But there hasn't been enough flashes for me to say, yeah, this is a big shooter who's gonna be able to get it off, hit a consistently, and let's take them 15. So I guess they'll like my question is how much of the conversation with Caleb Houston is due to our preconceived notions of Caleb Houston coming into the year and people having him as a lottery pick versus Harrison Ingram where we had him like in the top 40, right? Just like, I wonder if that burden of expectations has made us reduce what Caleb Houston has done in almost elevate what Harrison Ingram is done because like I would still pretty comfortably take Caleb Houston just based off what we've seen this year even from those two. And that's not to say that Harrison Ingram's been bad or anything. I just think that Caleb Houston like the flashes he showed against San Diego state, the flashes against Nebraska..
Game Theory Podcast
"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"I don't know if it's working against do Quinn Paul van Cara switches on to you. Well, it will be more reps to see for him. But I'm aligned with there's just a lot to be desired with the freshman wing crop. Well, in like another guy there that Harrison Ingram looked like he was in slow motion against Baylor. Like you're playing against the guys that are jamming the turbo button all game long, and Harrison is going to play slow anyway. He was just this methodical Ford garden affords body where we can cross you up and take it, but it's not the blow by. It's your step behind and I'll pump fake you jump and finish opposite. He's more of like a crafty quick than he'll ever be fast. I don't think anyone's ever gonna say he's fast. No, totally. That's not his game. His game is craft. His game is skill, his game is footwork. Deception, right? Yes, I like deception. Having said that, like, dude looked like he was literally in slow motion against Baylor. Like there's a difference between like, oh yeah, like he's not as athletic as Kendall brown and even like Jeremy sohan. I thought Jeremy sohan looked a lot more athletic than he did. And then looking like, oh, wait like his athleticism is a significant problem. Is he even like tries to blow by? Like Kendall Brown, I'd like multiple moments where he was like a step and a half behind and just recovered to him. Right? Like I'm intrigued by Harrison Ingram. Don't get me wrong, I have a top 50 grade on him right now. But he's really going to have to shoot it and he's only taking two threes a game and making them a 38%, but he's going to win by being an elite shooter. So like it's a fascinating freshman wing class and some of those guys are going to explode and be great..
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"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Yeah, I've been saying that since the end of last season, I feel like I think he's so good. I completely 100% agree with you on hawk as I think he is their best player. He's their most well rounded player. He can be a hub at the high post and you can run offense through him that way. He is a terrific team defender. He's a good passer, even though that like his passing numbers aren't elite. And I'm really glad you brought out the defense too because I think that he is a terrific defender that didn't quite make the all packed 12 team defensively, I believe last year, but wouldn't have looked out of place on that team at all. He's a shock creator who can actually like get to his own shot. Off of like a ball screen or off of an isolation at the college level. Yeah, I'm an enormous and enormous. Jaime hawk is fan. You might be the only person that really passes me in terms of hi my hawk is fandom. If you are right now just wait until you see what his flow is looking like now that the season. Oh, really? Is it good? Oh man, it's unbelievable. I don't even I'm not gonna spoil it for the game theory listeners. You're gonna have to watch Friday night 1130 p.m. eastern tip off time against Villanova, top 5 showdown. You've got to watch to see what I'm talking is looking like now. But I promise you when you see them you're gonna be like, oh yeah, that dude's the first team all American. Look at that. Beautiful. Love it. Okay. Let's go to my next question with the league like I can't get a feel beyond UCLA right now. USC has some real questions at lead ball handler and in replacing everything that Evan mobley did. Oregon has a ton of transfers that may or may not be good, and will Richardson feel like feels like just like hasn't gotten a clean bill of health. For the last couple of years. Colorado loses McKinley Wright, who other than Evan mobile was probably the most important player in the PAC 12 last year to a single team. Arizona's talented with Mather and umbrellas with a new coach that I think is really going to be just as good as what Sean Miller was early in Sean Miller's tenure. Like, I'm a big believer in Tommy Lloyd. But I don't know necessarily if you're one. It's gonna be incredible. Arizona state talented. I kind of think Washington state is really underrated, but like you could tell me any of those toots, any of those what one two three four 5 6 teams plus Stanford with a terrific long front of Spencer Jones, Harrison Ingram and Jaden de lair,.
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"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Yeah, we'll talk about imani in a minute. So the last freshman I want to talk about is Harrison Ingram who's going to go to Stanford. Really good physical frame, just 6 foot 6, 6, 7 with like a 6 11, 7 foot wingspan. Not a crazy athlete by any stretch of the imagination, but does have like some pretty real talent for scoring the basketball. A very conscientious defender. Again, like a guy who really gives effort on that end. And at least I would say probably a better baseline off the catch and shoot than where I would say Matthew Cleveland is. Would you agree? Yes. The question is just really athleticism. I'm not totally sure what to do with him in terms of where he is athletically. I had the same exact conversation with a person on the West Coast because he has a chance he sees the game really, really well, exceptionally well, and coming in, he could be one of the better classes in that entire better passer than the entire class. I'm sorry. He is more of a power driver that uses body shoulder to initiate contact for space creating. And then he'll utilize those pauses hesitation dribbles, but it's never that burst. He has to freeze his man to still beat him with a step and it's like an extra shoulder there because he doesn't have a ton of wiggle, but he does have that crafts beyond being a straight line driver. And he's smart. He was, I feel like everyone's on this USA U 19 team. But when he was there, he played the middle of the zone. He passed, he moves, he face cut his man. Along those same lines, he does have very active hands on defense for steals and deflections too, so it's like his mind is faster than his body. The foot's being lateral quickness, it may be an issue. It could improve his body has leaned out some since he got to campus..
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"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"We scheduled him for today as opposed to next week, right? Yes. So we're going to talk about Bryce McGowan. I think there's chance McGowan's is like a one and done, who ends up being a top 20 pick. I think there's chance Bryce McGowan's is like a guy who shoots under 40% this year, depending on how things go. It's a total he's a wild card to me. I think there are just a lot of wildcards. In this NBA draft class in general and kind of like you said there are a lot of many fewer sure things than what I'm used to certainly. And it'll evolve in time too because I don't know the preseason spent two games and people either completely overjoyed or ready to fire their general manager based on said preseason games and stats, which as a reminder don't matter. We said the same thing about summer league just we'll talk about the hot takes, but now I feel like the preseason is like even hotter takes and throwing some veterans and cam reddish is this and it's like just relax. There's gods that will kind of pop up too. So my point is that Trey Murphy, I knew who he was, but I didn't say like, hey, first podcast, we're talking about kaz. Let's talk about Trey Murphy and Josh primo, like those guys have been really good, but I'd be lying if I said I knew this was gonna happen throughout the year. A lot of these freshmen, it's gonna take time. You mentioned price McGowan's like we're gonna talk about other freshmen that like a guy like Harrison Ingram. Maybe he's one and done. Maybe he's there for three years. We gotta see some actual game tape of college basketball before we get too far ahead of ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree..
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"harrison ingram" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Today was another twenty to one. Jordan. Jordan socks interesting. He's a shooter and shooter shoot and he's living up to that reputation off boy. Yeah, I think that we've hit everyone, that we need to hit at this point. Okay, the final category is surprised is, I'm glad you brought up Tyrell, Teri chut, cuz to me Tera Teri, like, fits the surprise category, maybe a little bit more than the this guy's too. Good for summer league category, Tyrone know. He looked really, really good. I thought that first game for Dallas, he was like, he and Eugene over Russia were really the only two that I thought like looked even remotely close, I only saw highlights of the games. I'm not going to feel like a fake recap button. The the stuff I saw he did kind of look, he looked bigger physically stronger and definitely from the last year and coming off screens and and pulling up with More confidence. Yeah, totally and meanwhile Tyrell, Terry also sound of Tyrell. Terry just like creating controversy, you know, taking this back that he committing to Stanford suggest decision you've ever made, a weird time to do that. Did we miss something to Stanford? Like not put his like, mural on the wall or something. Like, where is it? Where is this coming from? Was there any follow-up? I saw the initial tweet that off a friend who shall not be named sent. But like, what does that even mean? I don't know. I, I don't know. K shoutout. Shoutout. I wrote Harry Tyrell, Terry's like a great kid to like Thursday, some awesome kid. So for Sanford to have wronged him in this way, I feel I feel I feel personally affronted on tyrell's behalf. Well, Stanford now has a, she has fallen out and has Harrison Ingram coming in. So Sanford, has to figure it out to. We gotta give them a little bit of credit, they evaluate properly, they do, they do a great job, evaluating the Sanford, say it's weird. Like I am. You know, both of us, know people on the Sanford staff and we like people in the Stanford staff for sure. And you know, I don't know how much you've gotten to know Tyrell cuz he played on the Adidas circuit. Yeah, I'm a few times and thought he's really great dude, like really nice kid. So yeah, it's a weird weird one there with the Stanford thing with Tyro. Yeah. Internet to make people crazy. Maybe. And I'm just bored trying to start some stuff up. It's probably true. Okay? Other pleasant surprises, I'll give you the floor on one. I'm going to go similar similar draft class in a similar position Lee. I'm going to go trade Jones from San Antonio, 29 minutes, you twenty-three points, four rebounds, three assists, and sometimes the Spurs guys just take time. And I loved it on draft night and, and knew it wouldn't be an overnight transition..